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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: rikki on May 24, 2023, 06:11:21 AM
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I noticed there isn't a centralized eS shoe thread as of yet – at least my multiple searches did not locate one.
Apologies if this is in error, and feel free to delete.
Anyway, to my question: are eS Accel Slims TTS or not? Example in case: my NB 440s are size 10 and are perfect. Would a size 10 in eS Accel Slims thus be a safe bet?
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For me anything SoleTech except the ES Quattro has been TTS.
Quattro you have to go half size up, I think they even say it on the site.
Also probably time for a SoleTech containment thread I would imagine.
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Accel slims are TTS to me. Same size as all Emericas at least.
How are the Quattro x Silos or Quattro Plus as I think they’re called now? I’ve been eying those for a while now. I really like the throwback late 90s vibes I get from those.
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I noticed there isn't a centralized eS shoe thread as of yet – at least my multiple searches did not locate one.
Apologies if this is in error, and feel free to delete.
Anyway, to my question: are eS Accel Slims TTS or not? Example in case: my NB 440s are size 10 and are perfect. Would a size 10 in eS Accel Slims thus be a safe bet?
Yup they are TTS, worn multiple pairs of the Accel Slim Plus and the Swift 1.5 and they fit my 9.5 foot perfectly, a little snug initially since I have a wide foot but they stretch out after you spend a few days walking around in them.
I've been wearing the Etnies Marana Michelin for a few months and while they fit TTS length wise, the suede took very long to stretch out. Spent close to 2 weeks walking and skating them while on holiday and they were still very tight by the end of the trip. Took me a month of skating before they feel just right. Great in terms of maintaining their shape across the life of the shoe, but my feet were cramping up every night for the start.
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Against the containment thread creep.
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Accel slims are TTS to me. Same size as all Emericas at least.
How are the Quattro x Silos or Quattro Plus as I think they’re called now? I’ve been eying those for a while now. I really like the throwback late 90s vibes I get from those.
I have a pair as chillers currently. They feel a little tippy on that sole since they are lower cut than you'd think.
Still probably skate em next
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I noticed there isn't a centralized eS shoe thread as of yet – at least my multiple searches did not locate one.
Apologies if this is in error, and feel free to delete.
Anyway, to my question: are eS Accel Slims TTS or not? Example in case: my NB 440s are size 10 and are perfect. Would a size 10 in eS Accel Slims thus be a safe bet?
accel slim fit tts for me as well. i did, however, find the forefoot too slim. vulc wino slip-on feel better to the ball of my foot than accel slim did. kinda disappointing for a cup sole.
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Against the containment thread creep.
Same. All of these questions are perfect for the "Shoes you're wearing" thread. The emerica containment thread popped up to contain the argument about Emerica's quality and models from taking over the Upcoming thread & because EmericaTM posts and responds on Slap.
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Thanks for the answers!
As for the thread, I would imagine many of us would find it more user-friendly to have separate threads for various brands, as the 'Shoes you're wearing' thread has a gadzillion posts and info tends to get lost. Also, this way it's easier to compare different models under each brand, which is also a thing. It's not like there are a 1000 different shoe brands that have enough user base to result in 1000 threads.
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Anyone else think it’s a bit of a bummer that the main shoes thread (Tate’s thread) is going to be kinda useless now?
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Anyone else think it’s a bit of a bummer that the main shoes thread (Tate’s thread) is going to be kinda useless now?
I think somebody floated the idea of the main shoes thread for all shoes that are coming out/general talk and then using the specific brand threads for more in depth discussion. I do see a problem with having ten different threads where subjects like shoe A vs shoe B are just going to be repeated ten times
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For me anything SoleTech except the ES Quattro has been TTS.
Quattro you have to go half size up, I think they even say it on the site.
Also probably time for a SoleTech containment thread I would imagine.
I’m wearing a pair of Quattro’s at the moment, for me they are TTS so I dunno, guess everyones feet are built different. Also, couldn’t find any info them running small atleast from es eu-site…
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Against the containment thread creep.
But then people in other threads will just moan about people discussing said brands and/or it kind of derails said threads.
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NB and Emerica containments are nice bc actual reps from those companies are on the boards.
Nike made sense bc they released a lot (or did) and their inclusion always brought the same obnoxious debate up
eS like Vans and Cons don’t seem to provide enough new/different for their own spaces. BANDWITH as Tate would say
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Well, let's see. If this thread dies, it deserves to die.
Although I'm kinda hoping to see multiple photos of Penny-style revivalists with their huge pants and bulky OG Accels.
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Against the containment thread creep.
Nah fam, it creates safe spaces for people who get hurt by others opinions. It’s a win win.
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Do we really need an individual thread for every brand?
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For me anything SoleTech except the ES Quattro has been TTS.
Quattro you have to go half size up, I think they even say it on the site.
Also probably time for a SoleTech containment thread I would imagine.
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Nice maybe they fixed the sizing.
I'm an 8 in everything and I have a pair from first run of modern Quattros in 8.5. they fit tighter than any 8s I have haha.
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For me anything SoleTech except the ES Quattro has been TTS.
Quattro you have to go half size up, I think they even say it on the site.
Also probably time for a SoleTech containment thread I would imagine.
Nice maybe they fixed the sizing.
I'm an 8 in everything and I have a pair from first run of modern Quattros in 8.5. they fit tighter than any 8s I have haha.
Haha I wear 8 as well, I bought mine this january.
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What are the chances we could get Kelly Hart on here discussing eS ;D
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Do we really need an individual thread for every brand?
I think the most logical solution is to have an individual thread for each brand, shoe model, shoe size, and colorway. That definitely won't clog up the boards.
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So when did the Accel's start getting absurdly bulky? I always hear that they didn't used to be as big as they are now, and in photos they seem like completely different shoes. This is from 1996:
(https://i.ibb.co/DDw8Fwk/accel.png) (https://ibb.co/DDw8Fwk)
I had a pair briefly last year and I was a bit shocked by how absurdly bulky they are.
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So when did the Accel's start getting absurdly bulky? I always hear that they didn't used to be as big as they are now, and in photos they seem like completely different shoes. This is from 1996:
(https://i.ibb.co/DDw8Fwk/accel.png) (https://ibb.co/DDw8Fwk)
I had a pair briefly last year and I was a bit shocked by how absurdly bulky they are.
2006ish. They reworked the whole shape of the shoe back then
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So when did the Accel's start getting absurdly bulky? I always hear that they didn't used to be as big as they are now, and in photos they seem like completely different shoes. This is from 1996:
(https://i.ibb.co/DDw8Fwk/accel.png) (https://ibb.co/DDw8Fwk)
I had a pair briefly last year and I was a bit shocked by how absurdly bulky they are.
2006ish. They reworked the whole shape of the shoe back then
Is there anything nowadays that's comparable to the old accel's? I was looking at the vans fairlane but they took out the puffiness.
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Do we really need an individual thread for every brand?
I think the most logical solution is to have an individual thread for each brand, shoe model, shoe size, and colorway. That definitely won't clog up the boards.
these brands can not be contained they are insatiable
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Can we seriously just combine this with the Emerica Containment thread and call it the Sole Tech Containment thread?
And also hopefully pre-empt the Etnies Containment Thread that way
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More like contaminant thread.
Just kidding. Or maybe I'm not.
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Can we seriously just combine this with the Emerica Containment thread and call it the Sole Tech Containment thread?
And also hopefully pre-empt the Etnies Containment Thread that way
Honestly the Emerica thread only happened because people wouldn't stop trashing Emerica and ran them out of the thread. there was zero reason to have them move anyway tbh
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eS - the shoe company whose entire identity was a lisp sound
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So when did the Accel's start getting absurdly bulky? I always hear that they didn't used to be as big as they are now, and in photos they seem like completely different shoes. This is from 1996:
(https://i.ibb.co/DDw8Fwk/accel.png) (https://ibb.co/DDw8Fwk)
I had a pair briefly last year and I was a bit shocked by how absurdly bulky they are.
2006ish. They reworked the whole shape of the shoe back then
Etnies Rap. Ben Degros has been skating them a lot lately. Sort of a mid-puff Accel. Also the Rap is technically the first generation Accel ( if my timeline is correct).
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So when did the Accel's start getting absurdly bulky? I always hear that they didn't used to be as big as they are now, and in photos they seem like completely different shoes. This is from 1996:
(https://i.ibb.co/DDw8Fwk/accel.png) (https://ibb.co/DDw8Fwk)
I had a pair briefly last year and I was a bit shocked by how absurdly bulky they are.
2006ish. They reworked the whole shape of the shoe back then
Etnies Rap. Ben Degros has been skating them a lot lately. Sort of a mid-puff Accel. Also the Rap is technically the first generation Accel ( if my timeline is correct).
Good shoes?
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So when did the Accel's start getting absurdly bulky? I always hear that they didn't used to be as big as they are now, and in photos they seem like completely different shoes. This is from 1996:
(https://i.ibb.co/DDw8Fwk/accel.png) (https://ibb.co/DDw8Fwk)
I had a pair briefly last year and I was a bit shocked by how absurdly bulky they are.
2006ish. They reworked the whole shape of the shoe back then
Etnies Rap. Ben Degros has been skating them a lot lately. Sort of a mid-puff Accel. Also the Rap is technically the first generation Accel ( if my timeline is correct).
The current etnies Rap re-release is using the original Marana sole before Michelin soles were developed. That sole is a happy medium between thin/board feel and super bulky. That paired with a solid upper (don't know if it is as I haven't seen in person for myself) should equal a good alternative to an Accel or a Dunk. Only bad thing is how expensive Soletech has gotten lately :/
If anyone buys direct, use "RVW19SV15" for 15% of if you're trying to save money.
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Anyone know if the Penny 2s are tts?
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Anyone know if the Penny 2s are tts?
They are roomy TTS for me in 10.5 US. They fit tiny bit bigger than Accel OG in same size.
Very comfortable and supportive shoe.
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So when did the Accel's start getting absurdly bulky? I always hear that they didn't used to be as big as they are now, and in photos they seem like completely different shoes. This is from 1996:
(https://i.ibb.co/DDw8Fwk/accel.png) (https://ibb.co/DDw8Fwk)
I had a pair briefly last year and I was a bit shocked by how absurdly bulky they are.
Are those dark green with white soles?
Take me back please.
This is the accel I remember
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Yeah dark green/ white soles was such a popular colorway for tonnes of brands back then
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The original accel had a much thinner profile from what I remember, closer to the accel slim of today (maybe a bit thicker than that). They definitely weren't the boat shoes they're releasing right now.
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Haven’t seen anybody post these
https://ibb.co/984z6S4
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Haven’t seen anybody post these
https://ibb.co/984z6S4
Probably for good reason, these need to never see the light of day
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Oh boy, it's another "reuse the outsole from a shoe nobody bought for a re-release in order to milk nostalgia but also keep costs down" episode! My favorite!
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The accelite sole is almost identical to a k2. Why didn’t they just use that?
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I've wanted a K2 reissue for years. Almost any other sole would work better than that. Why?
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I've wanted a K2 reissue for years. Almost any other sole would work better than that. Why?
Because eS...
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The new TJ Roges Evants look sick. He's rocking em in his Cold Call Thrasher thing
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I wish éS would make a decent mid-top on the Swift sole. I thought the Stylus Mid would be that but instead I got a heavy, ugly, weirdly sized turd that the side stitching blew out on even without even being skated.
Why can't they just put the Accel Slim Mid upper on the Swift sole?
Sort it out lads.
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Anyone have any idea what the number conventions for the name on the three Koston models mean?
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Anyone have any idea what the number conventions for the name on the three Koston models mean?
One 97
Two 98
Both indicate the model # (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.) from the brand and then the year the (I'm assuming) original it's based on came out
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I wish éS would make a decent mid-top on the Swift sole. I thought the Stylus Mid would be that but instead I got a heavy, ugly, weirdly sized turd that the side stitching blew out on even without even being skated.
Why can't they just put the Accel Slim Mid upper on the Swift sole?
Sort it out lads.
yeah, swift outsole is the best cup they’ve got going for them
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Anyone have any idea what the number conventions for the name on the three Koston models mean?
One 97
Two 98
Both indicate the model # (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.) from the brand and then the year the (I'm assuming) original it's based on came out
Oh that makes too much sense. Man, I really thought that first model was out for a few years before the 2 came around. I thought the 2 was out like 99/00 and the 3 was like 2002, but apparently that was released in 00.
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Anyone have any idea what the number conventions for the name on the three Koston models mean?
One 97
Two 98
Both indicate the model # (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.) from the brand and then the year the (I'm assuming) original it's based on came out
Oh that makes too much sense. Man, I really thought that first model was out for a few years before the 2 came around. I thought the 2 was out like 99/00 and the 3 was like 2002, but apparently that was released in 00.
Likewise! Lot of shoes seem to be released super close to each other from the late 90s/early 00s. Much closer than I understood when I was looking back on footage/mags when I started skating in 2006.
I'm assuming my understanding of the naming pattern is correct but with Es lately, the more they try to be clear/pay homage, sometimes they make it more unclear ???
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Has anyone else had this problem of the sole just ripping off the heel on és quattros when taking shoes off? Really annoyed, I’ve only skated these shoes for like 15 times and they’re already broken…
Dunks/Blazers and other big corporate brand shoes last me 2-3 months of skating almost everyday. Thank god i didn’t pay the full 95€ on these.
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Sounds like old stock and the glue gave up after long storage in heat and humidity.
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Does anyone else reckon that Accel OG's fit a bit too big? I'm thinking of buying a pair a size down but don't want to risk it in case they don't fit - I hate the faff and cost of having to send shoes back, and no skate shops near me stock them.
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Does anyone else reckon that Accel OG's fit a bit too big? I'm thinking of buying a pair a size down but don't want to risk it in case they don't fit - I hate the faff and cost of having to send shoes back, and no skate shops near me stock them.
Do you have a zumiez near you? I know they're carrying them online, should be free ship over $50 and free return in store. Otherwise you could try Amazon or Zappos. Zappos is probably the best for trying stuff and will let you return for free.
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Let me hear y'all's thoughts and experiences with the accel slim mid...on the fence about getting a pair. Good ankle support? Tts? Good cushioning to make your feet not hurt after sessions?
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Sounds like old stock and the glue gave up after long storage in heat and humidity.
Old stock yes, but over here is freezing cold and dry at the time. Humidity from sweat but i only wore them for skating so they always had time to dry.
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Does anyone else reckon that Accel OG's fit a bit too big? I'm thinking of buying a pair a size down but don't want to risk it in case they don't fit - I hate the faff and cost of having to send shoes back, and no skate shops near me stock them.
I find them to fit a little wider in the toebox, but also slightly shorter in length, probably due to the heel padding. They actually fit my feet better than any other shoe I have found.
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Does anyone else reckon that Accel OG's fit a bit too big? I'm thinking of buying a pair a size down but don't want to risk it in case they don't fit - I hate the faff and cost of having to send shoes back, and no skate shops near me stock them.
They have always run small for me.
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Sounds like old stock and the glue gave up after long storage in heat and humidity.
Old stock yes, but over here is freezing cold and dry at the time. Humidity from sweat but i only wore them for skating so they always had time to dry.
Upload some photos if you can because I'm curious. Often with sole separation you could take it to a cobbler and have them use industrial shoe glue on it, but you obviously shouldn't have to do that. Maybe email eS if you've had them for only a little while and see if they do anything.
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Does anyone else reckon that Accel OG's fit a bit too big? I'm thinking of buying a pair a size down but don't want to risk it in case they don't fit - I hate the faff and cost of having to send shoes back, and no skate shops near me stock them.
My pair of 10.5 Accel OGs fit tts.
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Let me hear y'all's thoughts and experiences with the accel slim mid...on the fence about getting a pair. Good ankle support? Tts? Good cushioning to make your feet not hurt after sessions?
Didn't wear the mid but the regular Accel Slim fits TTS, the sole is thinner and less durable that I'd like, the Swift 1.5 sole and outsole wins in that regard. Durability is not the Accel Slim's strong point, they come with a broken in feel but get floppy faster than I'd like with a sole that doesn't last as long as it should.
I'd pick it up only on discount and for nostalgia.
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Has anyone else had this problem of the sole just ripping off the heel on és quattros when taking shoes off? Really annoyed, I’ve only skated these shoes for like 15 times and they’re already broken…
Dunks/Blazers and other big corporate brand shoes last me 2-3 months of skating almost everyday. Thank god i didn’t pay the full 95€ on these.
Never, and I've owned/skated a decent number of Silo SC and Quattros that use that sole. I've had great experiences with mine lasting quite awhile. This might be a one-off defective pair, as not many, if any one else has shared this separation happening to that outsole before from what I've seen.
Did you buy from es direct or somewhere else ? If es direct, I'd recommend contacting customer support if you haven't already explored that for a fix/compensation
Accel OG largely fit me TTS but I definitely think I could/should have gone 0.5 when I was rocking them. My toes did get squished a little sometimes since the length was too stubby and not as tapered as Swift, Accel Slim, Silo SC, etc. Also, some colorways were better than others of the same size. Not many I've seen express that they run large tbh
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Do the Accel Slims have any kind of midsole cushioning or is it just an outsole/insole type of design?
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Do the Accel Slims have any kind of midsole cushioning or is it just an outsole/insole type of design?
Thick insole, very thin sole. No midsole.
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Wearing the Penny 2s now. They feel good.
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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?
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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?
You mean how the leather came down over the sidewalls of the sole? I think it was just for something different. Dylans first gravis shoe had it, had a friend who skated a lot of those but was prob more to do with the look/Dylan than the shoe. There was a brand in the early 00s called Evo's that had it on most shoes. Think Dyrdek had some DC's with it. Ave too
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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?
White/Blue - Summer 24
Black/white - Holiday 24
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I really wish eS would make a retro 197 in the black and grey colorway!
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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?
Black/white - Holiday 24
cool, thanks. where do you get this info btw? reddit?
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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?
The technique/construction method is called Double Lasting
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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?
Black/white - Holiday 24
Catalogs
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How is the boardfeel and support of the Swift 1.5 compared to a Etnies Michelin type shoe for example?
I like the look of the Swift 1.5 and on paper it sounds like a good cupsole with a midsole and great boardfeel?
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Swift outsole is probs my fav cupsole form recent years (bar the G6), having said that it’s pretty thin in the scheme of things, will probs feel like a bulky ish vulc if you’re coming off joslins
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The Michelin outsole has you feeling the midsole/outsole between your feet and the board. As you've already experienced once you broke yours in to skate.
The Swift outsole is a notch or two below that where you still get that cupsole feel like the Joslin but you're noticeably closer to board just in feeling. Still offers almost as much grip and stability as Michelin soles, though. They are more flexible, so a "diet Michelin" is one way you could describe them. A good sole for sure!
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Wow, okay I think the Swift 1.5 could be really good then. I like the Joslin shoes a lot but I think a bit more boardfeel would be nice. I currently run the Joslin's with the FP Low Gamechangers and like that a lot. Jumped down a 4 stair and felt nothing from the impact. Which really surprised me because I am used to Lakai Vulcs.
By the way, same size as the Joslin's?
Thanks pals.
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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?
Black/white - Holiday 24
Black & White Creagers?
might actually have to buy a pair