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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: rikki on May 24, 2023, 06:11:21 AM
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I noticed there isn't a centralized eS shoe thread as of yet – at least my multiple searches did not locate one.
Apologies if this is in error, and feel free to delete.
Anyway, to my question: are eS Accel Slims TTS or not? Example in case: my NB 440s are size 10 and are perfect. Would a size 10 in eS Accel Slims thus be a safe bet?
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For me anything SoleTech except the ES Quattro has been TTS.
Quattro you have to go half size up, I think they even say it on the site.
Also probably time for a SoleTech containment thread I would imagine.
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Accel slims are TTS to me. Same size as all Emericas at least.
How are the Quattro x Silos or Quattro Plus as I think they’re called now? I’ve been eying those for a while now. I really like the throwback late 90s vibes I get from those.
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I noticed there isn't a centralized eS shoe thread as of yet – at least my multiple searches did not locate one.
Apologies if this is in error, and feel free to delete.
Anyway, to my question: are eS Accel Slims TTS or not? Example in case: my NB 440s are size 10 and are perfect. Would a size 10 in eS Accel Slims thus be a safe bet?
Yup they are TTS, worn multiple pairs of the Accel Slim Plus and the Swift 1.5 and they fit my 9.5 foot perfectly, a little snug initially since I have a wide foot but they stretch out after you spend a few days walking around in them.
I've been wearing the Etnies Marana Michelin for a few months and while they fit TTS length wise, the suede took very long to stretch out. Spent close to 2 weeks walking and skating them while on holiday and they were still very tight by the end of the trip. Took me a month of skating before they feel just right. Great in terms of maintaining their shape across the life of the shoe, but my feet were cramping up every night for the start.
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Against the containment thread creep.
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Accel slims are TTS to me. Same size as all Emericas at least.
How are the Quattro x Silos or Quattro Plus as I think they’re called now? I’ve been eying those for a while now. I really like the throwback late 90s vibes I get from those.
I have a pair as chillers currently. They feel a little tippy on that sole since they are lower cut than you'd think.
Still probably skate em next
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I noticed there isn't a centralized eS shoe thread as of yet – at least my multiple searches did not locate one.
Apologies if this is in error, and feel free to delete.
Anyway, to my question: are eS Accel Slims TTS or not? Example in case: my NB 440s are size 10 and are perfect. Would a size 10 in eS Accel Slims thus be a safe bet?
accel slim fit tts for me as well. i did, however, find the forefoot too slim. vulc wino slip-on feel better to the ball of my foot than accel slim did. kinda disappointing for a cup sole.
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Against the containment thread creep.
Same. All of these questions are perfect for the "Shoes you're wearing" thread. The emerica containment thread popped up to contain the argument about Emerica's quality and models from taking over the Upcoming thread & because EmericaTM posts and responds on Slap.
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Thanks for the answers!
As for the thread, I would imagine many of us would find it more user-friendly to have separate threads for various brands, as the 'Shoes you're wearing' thread has a gadzillion posts and info tends to get lost. Also, this way it's easier to compare different models under each brand, which is also a thing. It's not like there are a 1000 different shoe brands that have enough user base to result in 1000 threads.
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Anyone else think it’s a bit of a bummer that the main shoes thread (Tate’s thread) is going to be kinda useless now?
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Anyone else think it’s a bit of a bummer that the main shoes thread (Tate’s thread) is going to be kinda useless now?
I think somebody floated the idea of the main shoes thread for all shoes that are coming out/general talk and then using the specific brand threads for more in depth discussion. I do see a problem with having ten different threads where subjects like shoe A vs shoe B are just going to be repeated ten times
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For me anything SoleTech except the ES Quattro has been TTS.
Quattro you have to go half size up, I think they even say it on the site.
Also probably time for a SoleTech containment thread I would imagine.
I’m wearing a pair of Quattro’s at the moment, for me they are TTS so I dunno, guess everyones feet are built different. Also, couldn’t find any info them running small atleast from es eu-site…
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Against the containment thread creep.
But then people in other threads will just moan about people discussing said brands and/or it kind of derails said threads.
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NB and Emerica containments are nice bc actual reps from those companies are on the boards.
Nike made sense bc they released a lot (or did) and their inclusion always brought the same obnoxious debate up
eS like Vans and Cons don’t seem to provide enough new/different for their own spaces. BANDWITH as Tate would say
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Well, let's see. If this thread dies, it deserves to die.
Although I'm kinda hoping to see multiple photos of Penny-style revivalists with their huge pants and bulky OG Accels.
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Against the containment thread creep.
Nah fam, it creates safe spaces for people who get hurt by others opinions. It’s a win win.
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Do we really need an individual thread for every brand?
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For me anything SoleTech except the ES Quattro has been TTS.
Quattro you have to go half size up, I think they even say it on the site.
Also probably time for a SoleTech containment thread I would imagine.
I’m wearing a pair of Quattro’s at the moment, for me they are TTS so I dunno, guess everyones feet are built different. Also, couldn’t find any info them running small atleast from es eu-site…
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Nice maybe they fixed the sizing.
I'm an 8 in everything and I have a pair from first run of modern Quattros in 8.5. they fit tighter than any 8s I have haha.
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For me anything SoleTech except the ES Quattro has been TTS.
Quattro you have to go half size up, I think they even say it on the site.
Also probably time for a SoleTech containment thread I would imagine.
I’m wearing a pair of Quattro’s at the moment, for me they are TTS so I dunno, guess everyones feet are built different. Also, couldn’t find any info them running small atleast from es eu-site…
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Nice maybe they fixed the sizing.
I'm an 8 in everything and I have a pair from first run of modern Quattros in 8.5. they fit tighter than any 8s I have haha.
Haha I wear 8 as well, I bought mine this january.
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What are the chances we could get Kelly Hart on here discussing eS ;D
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Do we really need an individual thread for every brand?
I think the most logical solution is to have an individual thread for each brand, shoe model, shoe size, and colorway. That definitely won't clog up the boards.
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So when did the Accel's start getting absurdly bulky? I always hear that they didn't used to be as big as they are now, and in photos they seem like completely different shoes. This is from 1996:
(https://i.ibb.co/DDw8Fwk/accel.png) (https://ibb.co/DDw8Fwk)
I had a pair briefly last year and I was a bit shocked by how absurdly bulky they are.
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So when did the Accel's start getting absurdly bulky? I always hear that they didn't used to be as big as they are now, and in photos they seem like completely different shoes. This is from 1996:
(https://i.ibb.co/DDw8Fwk/accel.png) (https://ibb.co/DDw8Fwk)
I had a pair briefly last year and I was a bit shocked by how absurdly bulky they are.
2006ish. They reworked the whole shape of the shoe back then
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So when did the Accel's start getting absurdly bulky? I always hear that they didn't used to be as big as they are now, and in photos they seem like completely different shoes. This is from 1996:
(https://i.ibb.co/DDw8Fwk/accel.png) (https://ibb.co/DDw8Fwk)
I had a pair briefly last year and I was a bit shocked by how absurdly bulky they are.
2006ish. They reworked the whole shape of the shoe back then
Is there anything nowadays that's comparable to the old accel's? I was looking at the vans fairlane but they took out the puffiness.
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Do we really need an individual thread for every brand?
I think the most logical solution is to have an individual thread for each brand, shoe model, shoe size, and colorway. That definitely won't clog up the boards.
these brands can not be contained they are insatiable
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Can we seriously just combine this with the Emerica Containment thread and call it the Sole Tech Containment thread?
And also hopefully pre-empt the Etnies Containment Thread that way
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More like contaminant thread.
Just kidding. Or maybe I'm not.
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Can we seriously just combine this with the Emerica Containment thread and call it the Sole Tech Containment thread?
And also hopefully pre-empt the Etnies Containment Thread that way
Honestly the Emerica thread only happened because people wouldn't stop trashing Emerica and ran them out of the thread. there was zero reason to have them move anyway tbh
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eS - the shoe company whose entire identity was a lisp sound
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So when did the Accel's start getting absurdly bulky? I always hear that they didn't used to be as big as they are now, and in photos they seem like completely different shoes. This is from 1996:
(https://i.ibb.co/DDw8Fwk/accel.png) (https://ibb.co/DDw8Fwk)
I had a pair briefly last year and I was a bit shocked by how absurdly bulky they are.
2006ish. They reworked the whole shape of the shoe back then
Is there anything nowadays that's comparable to the old accel's? I was looking at the vans fairlane but they took out the puffiness.
Etnies Rap. Ben Degros has been skating them a lot lately. Sort of a mid-puff Accel. Also the Rap is technically the first generation Accel ( if my timeline is correct).
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So when did the Accel's start getting absurdly bulky? I always hear that they didn't used to be as big as they are now, and in photos they seem like completely different shoes. This is from 1996:
(https://i.ibb.co/DDw8Fwk/accel.png) (https://ibb.co/DDw8Fwk)
I had a pair briefly last year and I was a bit shocked by how absurdly bulky they are.
2006ish. They reworked the whole shape of the shoe back then
Is there anything nowadays that's comparable to the old accel's? I was looking at the vans fairlane but they took out the puffiness.
Etnies Rap. Ben Degros has been skating them a lot lately. Sort of a mid-puff Accel. Also the Rap is technically the first generation Accel ( if my timeline is correct).
Good shoes?
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So when did the Accel's start getting absurdly bulky? I always hear that they didn't used to be as big as they are now, and in photos they seem like completely different shoes. This is from 1996:
(https://i.ibb.co/DDw8Fwk/accel.png) (https://ibb.co/DDw8Fwk)
I had a pair briefly last year and I was a bit shocked by how absurdly bulky they are.
2006ish. They reworked the whole shape of the shoe back then
Is there anything nowadays that's comparable to the old accel's? I was looking at the vans fairlane but they took out the puffiness.
Etnies Rap. Ben Degros has been skating them a lot lately. Sort of a mid-puff Accel. Also the Rap is technically the first generation Accel ( if my timeline is correct).
Good shoes?
The current etnies Rap re-release is using the original Marana sole before Michelin soles were developed. That sole is a happy medium between thin/board feel and super bulky. That paired with a solid upper (don't know if it is as I haven't seen in person for myself) should equal a good alternative to an Accel or a Dunk. Only bad thing is how expensive Soletech has gotten lately :/
If anyone buys direct, use "RVW19SV15" for 15% of if you're trying to save money.
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Anyone know if the Penny 2s are tts?
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Anyone know if the Penny 2s are tts?
They are roomy TTS for me in 10.5 US. They fit tiny bit bigger than Accel OG in same size.
Very comfortable and supportive shoe.
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So when did the Accel's start getting absurdly bulky? I always hear that they didn't used to be as big as they are now, and in photos they seem like completely different shoes. This is from 1996:
(https://i.ibb.co/DDw8Fwk/accel.png) (https://ibb.co/DDw8Fwk)
I had a pair briefly last year and I was a bit shocked by how absurdly bulky they are.
Are those dark green with white soles?
Take me back please.
This is the accel I remember
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Yeah dark green/ white soles was such a popular colorway for tonnes of brands back then
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The original accel had a much thinner profile from what I remember, closer to the accel slim of today (maybe a bit thicker than that). They definitely weren't the boat shoes they're releasing right now.
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Haven’t seen anybody post these
https://ibb.co/984z6S4
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Haven’t seen anybody post these
https://ibb.co/984z6S4
Probably for good reason, these need to never see the light of day
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Oh boy, it's another "reuse the outsole from a shoe nobody bought for a re-release in order to milk nostalgia but also keep costs down" episode! My favorite!
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The accelite sole is almost identical to a k2. Why didn’t they just use that?
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I've wanted a K2 reissue for years. Almost any other sole would work better than that. Why?
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I've wanted a K2 reissue for years. Almost any other sole would work better than that. Why?
Because eS...
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The new TJ Roges Evants look sick. He's rocking em in his Cold Call Thrasher thing
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I wish éS would make a decent mid-top on the Swift sole. I thought the Stylus Mid would be that but instead I got a heavy, ugly, weirdly sized turd that the side stitching blew out on even without even being skated.
Why can't they just put the Accel Slim Mid upper on the Swift sole?
Sort it out lads.
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Anyone have any idea what the number conventions for the name on the three Koston models mean?
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Anyone have any idea what the number conventions for the name on the three Koston models mean?
One 97
Two 98
Both indicate the model # (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.) from the brand and then the year the (I'm assuming) original it's based on came out
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I wish éS would make a decent mid-top on the Swift sole. I thought the Stylus Mid would be that but instead I got a heavy, ugly, weirdly sized turd that the side stitching blew out on even without even being skated.
Why can't they just put the Accel Slim Mid upper on the Swift sole?
Sort it out lads.
yeah, swift outsole is the best cup they’ve got going for them
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Anyone have any idea what the number conventions for the name on the three Koston models mean?
One 97
Two 98
Both indicate the model # (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.) from the brand and then the year the (I'm assuming) original it's based on came out
Oh that makes too much sense. Man, I really thought that first model was out for a few years before the 2 came around. I thought the 2 was out like 99/00 and the 3 was like 2002, but apparently that was released in 00.
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Anyone have any idea what the number conventions for the name on the three Koston models mean?
One 97
Two 98
Both indicate the model # (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.) from the brand and then the year the (I'm assuming) original it's based on came out
Oh that makes too much sense. Man, I really thought that first model was out for a few years before the 2 came around. I thought the 2 was out like 99/00 and the 3 was like 2002, but apparently that was released in 00.
Likewise! Lot of shoes seem to be released super close to each other from the late 90s/early 00s. Much closer than I understood when I was looking back on footage/mags when I started skating in 2006.
I'm assuming my understanding of the naming pattern is correct but with Es lately, the more they try to be clear/pay homage, sometimes they make it more unclear ???
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Has anyone else had this problem of the sole just ripping off the heel on és quattros when taking shoes off? Really annoyed, I’ve only skated these shoes for like 15 times and they’re already broken…
Dunks/Blazers and other big corporate brand shoes last me 2-3 months of skating almost everyday. Thank god i didn’t pay the full 95€ on these.
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Sounds like old stock and the glue gave up after long storage in heat and humidity.
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Does anyone else reckon that Accel OG's fit a bit too big? I'm thinking of buying a pair a size down but don't want to risk it in case they don't fit - I hate the faff and cost of having to send shoes back, and no skate shops near me stock them.
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Does anyone else reckon that Accel OG's fit a bit too big? I'm thinking of buying a pair a size down but don't want to risk it in case they don't fit - I hate the faff and cost of having to send shoes back, and no skate shops near me stock them.
Do you have a zumiez near you? I know they're carrying them online, should be free ship over $50 and free return in store. Otherwise you could try Amazon or Zappos. Zappos is probably the best for trying stuff and will let you return for free.
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Let me hear y'all's thoughts and experiences with the accel slim mid...on the fence about getting a pair. Good ankle support? Tts? Good cushioning to make your feet not hurt after sessions?
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Sounds like old stock and the glue gave up after long storage in heat and humidity.
Old stock yes, but over here is freezing cold and dry at the time. Humidity from sweat but i only wore them for skating so they always had time to dry.
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Does anyone else reckon that Accel OG's fit a bit too big? I'm thinking of buying a pair a size down but don't want to risk it in case they don't fit - I hate the faff and cost of having to send shoes back, and no skate shops near me stock them.
I find them to fit a little wider in the toebox, but also slightly shorter in length, probably due to the heel padding. They actually fit my feet better than any other shoe I have found.
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Does anyone else reckon that Accel OG's fit a bit too big? I'm thinking of buying a pair a size down but don't want to risk it in case they don't fit - I hate the faff and cost of having to send shoes back, and no skate shops near me stock them.
They have always run small for me.
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Sounds like old stock and the glue gave up after long storage in heat and humidity.
Old stock yes, but over here is freezing cold and dry at the time. Humidity from sweat but i only wore them for skating so they always had time to dry.
Upload some photos if you can because I'm curious. Often with sole separation you could take it to a cobbler and have them use industrial shoe glue on it, but you obviously shouldn't have to do that. Maybe email eS if you've had them for only a little while and see if they do anything.
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Does anyone else reckon that Accel OG's fit a bit too big? I'm thinking of buying a pair a size down but don't want to risk it in case they don't fit - I hate the faff and cost of having to send shoes back, and no skate shops near me stock them.
My pair of 10.5 Accel OGs fit tts.
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Let me hear y'all's thoughts and experiences with the accel slim mid...on the fence about getting a pair. Good ankle support? Tts? Good cushioning to make your feet not hurt after sessions?
Didn't wear the mid but the regular Accel Slim fits TTS, the sole is thinner and less durable that I'd like, the Swift 1.5 sole and outsole wins in that regard. Durability is not the Accel Slim's strong point, they come with a broken in feel but get floppy faster than I'd like with a sole that doesn't last as long as it should.
I'd pick it up only on discount and for nostalgia.
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Has anyone else had this problem of the sole just ripping off the heel on és quattros when taking shoes off? Really annoyed, I’ve only skated these shoes for like 15 times and they’re already broken…
Dunks/Blazers and other big corporate brand shoes last me 2-3 months of skating almost everyday. Thank god i didn’t pay the full 95€ on these.
Never, and I've owned/skated a decent number of Silo SC and Quattros that use that sole. I've had great experiences with mine lasting quite awhile. This might be a one-off defective pair, as not many, if any one else has shared this separation happening to that outsole before from what I've seen.
Did you buy from es direct or somewhere else ? If es direct, I'd recommend contacting customer support if you haven't already explored that for a fix/compensation
Accel OG largely fit me TTS but I definitely think I could/should have gone 0.5 when I was rocking them. My toes did get squished a little sometimes since the length was too stubby and not as tapered as Swift, Accel Slim, Silo SC, etc. Also, some colorways were better than others of the same size. Not many I've seen express that they run large tbh
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Do the Accel Slims have any kind of midsole cushioning or is it just an outsole/insole type of design?
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Do the Accel Slims have any kind of midsole cushioning or is it just an outsole/insole type of design?
Thick insole, very thin sole. No midsole.
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Wearing the Penny 2s now. They feel good.
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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?
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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?
You mean how the leather came down over the sidewalls of the sole? I think it was just for something different. Dylans first gravis shoe had it, had a friend who skated a lot of those but was prob more to do with the look/Dylan than the shoe. There was a brand in the early 00s called Evo's that had it on most shoes. Think Dyrdek had some DC's with it. Ave too
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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?
White/Blue - Summer 24
Black/white - Holiday 24
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I really wish eS would make a retro 197 in the black and grey colorway!
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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?
White/Blue - Summer 24
Black/white - Holiday 24
cool, thanks. where do you get this info btw? reddit?
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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?
You mean how the leather came down over the sidewalls of the sole? I think it was just for something different. Dylans first gravis shoe had it, had a friend who skated a lot of those but was prob more to do with the look/Dylan than the shoe. There was a brand in the early 00s called Evo's that had it on most shoes. Think Dyrdek had some DC's with it. Ave too
The technique/construction method is called Double Lasting
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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?
White/Blue - Summer 24
Black/white - Holiday 24
cool, thanks. where do you get this info btw? reddit?
Catalogs
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How is the boardfeel and support of the Swift 1.5 compared to a Etnies Michelin type shoe for example?
I like the look of the Swift 1.5 and on paper it sounds like a good cupsole with a midsole and great boardfeel?
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Swift outsole is probs my fav cupsole form recent years (bar the G6), having said that it’s pretty thin in the scheme of things, will probs feel like a bulky ish vulc if you’re coming off joslins
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The Michelin outsole has you feeling the midsole/outsole between your feet and the board. As you've already experienced once you broke yours in to skate.
The Swift outsole is a notch or two below that where you still get that cupsole feel like the Joslin but you're noticeably closer to board just in feeling. Still offers almost as much grip and stability as Michelin soles, though. They are more flexible, so a "diet Michelin" is one way you could describe them. A good sole for sure!
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Wow, okay I think the Swift 1.5 could be really good then. I like the Joslin shoes a lot but I think a bit more boardfeel would be nice. I currently run the Joslin's with the FP Low Gamechangers and like that a lot. Jumped down a 4 stair and felt nothing from the impact. Which really surprised me because I am used to Lakai Vulcs.
By the way, same size as the Joslin's?
Thanks pals.
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two questions: the white and blue creagers (seen a couple photos and one of them for sale on mercari in my size that sold), will that colorway ever drop or are they samples. another one, the k5, what was that outsole called? a negative sole? what was the point of it and did anyone ever skate shoes with a similar sole?
White/Blue - Summer 24
Black/white - Holiday 24
Black & White Creagers?
might actually have to buy a pair
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Hey anyone have a source picture of the eS Theory with white perforated leather and black suede?
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Posting cause I’m jealous of the NB thread and having to see the NB ad every time I check this site.
Go es! Wooohooo. I fuck with Johnny Hernandez and all the legends of course. Just ordered some shoes where tf they at, I think it’s the post office fault.
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I swear I hate es but cant stop buying them. Too me seems like they marketing the same accel they been moving for the last couple months as a new original from 1995 for Accel day? Was Accel day ever a thing?
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i guess there's a difference between the accel og and the accel. which is weird because they're marketing this as "bringing back the original". so what's the OG supposed to be? lol
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i guess there's a difference between the accel og and the accel. which is weird because they're marketing this as "bringing back the original". so what's the OG supposed to be? lol
It was their previous attempt at bringing it back..
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No, the Accel OG was an updated puffier version of the Accel (1995) around 2005. At that point they dropped the Accel (1995) quietly and and for some insane reason, they named the updated puffy version the "Accel OG"
And the original hasn't been made for 20 years.
There are some weird halfway versions, though. That VX shoe has bits of both. Not sure what happened there. My guess is an attempt to slim it down to the 95 style quietly before making a 'proper' full 1995 version which this Accel Day release is.
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No, the Accel OG was an updated puffier version of the Accel (1995) around 2005. At that point they dropped the Accel (1995) quietly and and for some insane reason, they named the updated puffy version the "Accel OG"
And the original hasn't been made for 20 years.
There are some weird halfway versions, though. That VX shoe has bits of both. Not sure what happened there. My guess is an attempt to slim it down to the 95 style quietly before making a 'proper' full 1995 version which this Accel Day release is.
Well they sure don't market it as some kind of updated puffier version (OG version = old guy version?). On the éS website it says "The most iconic skate shoe ever – unchanged since ’95 and still unstoppable. This is the one. The shoe that changed skateboarding forever. Originally released in 1995, the éS Accel OG is the most iconic, most respected skate shoe of all time—voted #1 skate shoe again and again by the skaters who know".
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No, the Accel OG was an updated puffier version of the Accel (1995) around 2005. At that point they dropped the Accel (1995) quietly and and for some insane reason, they named the updated puffy version the "Accel OG"
And the original hasn't been made for 20 years.
There are some weird halfway versions, though. That VX shoe has bits of both. Not sure what happened there. My guess is an attempt to slim it down to the 95 style quietly before making a 'proper' full 1995 version which this Accel Day release is.
That’s been my beef with the OG version. I had the Muska colorway back in 2010 and it even had a different feel to it. This one is way too puffy. I can only hope they’ll keep the original shape and phase out the OG version.
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Well they sure don't market it as some kind of updated puffier version (OG version = old guy version?). On the éS website it says "The most iconic skate shoe ever – unchanged since ’95 and still unstoppable. This is the one. The shoe that changed skateboarding forever. Originally released in 1995, the éS Accel OG is the most iconic, most respected skate shoe of all time—voted #1 skate shoe again and again by the skaters who know".
Yeah, that's the problem.
Good call. Will try to get it changed. Thx.
That’s been my beef with the OG version. I had the Muska colorway back in 2010 and it even had a different feel to it. This one is way too puffy. I can only hope they’ll keep the original shape and phase out the OG version.
I paid no attention to eS/Accel OG for a long while and when I saw the OG in about 2015, I thought it was a joke shoe they'd made. It's so big. But yeah, hoping that this works out and the proper (Accel Prime, as it just got called in the other thread) ends up as the standard...and the "Accel OG" disappears.
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TJ Rogers has a pro shoe coming out
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I for one love the puff, I could understand how someone wouldn’t tho.
I really just want some room in the toe box, idc what rich people thought was cool in the fucking 1600s my pinky toe is screaming
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I for one love the puff, I could understand how someone wouldn’t tho.
I really just want some room in the toe box, idc what rich people thought was cool in the fucking 1600s my pinky toe is screaming
Yeah I like the puffy ones too, but that's what I had as a kid. I never had the slimmer ones. They're so ugly but very comfortable and skate great.
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TJ Rogers has a pro shoe coming out
there needs to be a bubble added to the guy falling out the with this in it.
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I for one love the puff, I could understand how someone wouldn’t tho.
I really just want some room in the toe box, idc what rich people thought was cool in the fucking 1600s my pinky toe is screaming
Yeah I like the puffy ones too, but that's what I had as a kid. I never had the slimmer ones. They're so ugly but very comfortable and skate great.
Were the puffy ones even in existence back in the day? The TRULY original slimmer ones are/were one of the best-looking skate shoes ever. If they brought them back, I'd most probably buy a pair. The newer puffy ones? Hell no.
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I for one love the puff, I could understand how someone wouldn’t tho.
I really just want some room in the toe box, idc what rich people thought was cool in the fucking 1600s my pinky toe is screaming
Yeah I like the puffy ones too, but that's what I had as a kid. I never had the slimmer ones. They're so ugly but very comfortable and skate great.
Were the puffy ones even in existence back in the day? The TRULY original slimmer ones are/were one of the best-looking skate shoes ever. If they brought them back, I'd most probably buy a pair. The newer puffy ones? Hell no.
The truly original ones you mention are the ones which got released yesterday.
https://esskateboarding.com/products/accel-white-5101000215-100?option1=BLACK&option2=7
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No, the Accel OG was an updated puffier version of the Accel (1995) around 2005. At that point they dropped the Accel (1995) quietly and and for some insane reason, they named the updated puffy version the "Accel OG"
And the original hasn't been made for 20 years.
There are some weird halfway versions, though. That VX shoe has bits of both. Not sure what happened there. My guess is an attempt to slim it down to the 95 style quietly before making a 'proper' full 1995 version which this Accel Day release is.
That's weird because og means the classic or original so not sure why they would call the new updated version og
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I'm surprised the Accel is still in production, the only pair I see in my city of half a milion are on my feet and I had to order them from the skateshop as it does not stock it.
Do you guys wear/see them in your parts of the world ?
They sure need to scrap one of the 2 iterations.
Maybe keep both for a few months to see which ones people like more.
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I'm surprised the Accel is still in production, the only pair I see in my city of half a milion are on my feet and I had to order them from the skateshop as it does not stock it.
Do you guys wear/see them in your parts of the world ?
They sure need to scrap one of the 2 iterations.
Maybe keep both for a few months to see which ones people like more.
justin bieber wears them.
i've never seen anyone else wearing them either, but i have gotten compliments on mine
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It’s a picture of the original release on the first page of this thread. The ones released yesterday look nothing like it. Newer ones look better in my opinion. Just weird language I guess
No one wears accels. I only seen one other skater in them. None of the skate shops I been to have em. Obviously no crossover with rest of sneaker word. Ppl do think they cool and look comfortable but nobody knows what they are.
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You guys are forgetting that Japan exists, plenty of people wear accels here…
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I for one love the puff, I could understand how someone wouldn’t tho.
I really just want some room in the toe box, idc what rich people thought was cool in the fucking 1600s my pinky toe is screaming
Yeah I like the puffy ones too, but that's what I had as a kid. I never had the slimmer ones. They're so ugly but very comfortable and skate great.
Were the puffy ones even in existence back in the day? The TRULY original slimmer ones are/were one of the best-looking skate shoes ever. If they brought them back, I'd most probably buy a pair. The newer puffy ones? Hell no.
The truly original ones you mention are the ones which got released yesterday.
https://esskateboarding.com/products/accel-white-5101000215-100?option1=BLACK&option2=7
Wow, I wasn't aware of this. Should've probably read more of the previous posts... thanks!
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No, the Accel OG was an updated puffier version of the Accel (1995) around 2005. At that point they dropped the Accel (1995) quietly and and for some insane reason, they named the updated puffy version the "Accel OG"
And the original hasn't been made for 20 years.
There are some weird halfway versions, though. That VX shoe has bits of both. Not sure what happened there. My guess is an attempt to slim it down to the 95 style quietly before making a 'proper' full 1995 version which this Accel Day release is.
That's weird because og means the classic or original so not sure why they would call the new updated version og
Well, that's exactly the problem. I don't think anyone needs explaining as to what OG means. But whoever decided to call an update to a shoe "OG" has caused a lot of headfuck 20 years dow the line.
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I got off the eS train over a year ago and went all in on NB, the Accel Slim Mid I had as chillers felt awful. But the "new and original" Accels - I'm ready to love and be hurt again. Holding off shoe purchases to make room for this one.
Such a bummer they tarnished the legacy of the Accel with the weird naming and roiding it up in the wrong places.
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step in the right direction but it's pretty damn late, shoulda happened like 8 years ago. If they drop the blue colorway I'll cop tho ;D
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Forget the Accels, when we bringing back the Square Ones or the Theory Mids???
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es im sorry. After rewatching 100 fun summers accel comparison video i think this Accel/Accel OG thing could work. Just stop experimenting on your customers and not saying shit, and stop listening to ppl who don’t/wont skate them consistently.
The old all whites [Accel OG new gen 2005 - 2025?] were the phattest. I remember looking down and thinking look they look kinda dumb sometimes. The all black joints and the all browns ones were almost perfect in every way.
Seems tough to make accels look good with multiple colors, just the way the panel set up or something. But I def could use something new like a blue, red, green, orange? Prolly would have to do white midsole. Third color on laces maybe?
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Forget the Accels, when we bringing back the Square Ones or the Theory Mids???
I DM'd Kelly Hart about this a couple years ago when Half Cabs started getting super popular again, and Kelly said there were no plans on bringing it back smh. Would love to see it, I still have a couple old pairs to wear as chillers
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ES has had so many great models over the years, but refuse to bring any of them back since 2015, the square ones and square twos were really great in my opinion, also the years with Danny Garcia and Silas, and later on with Manderson, and worrest, there were so many good shoes around then, please just bring some back
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Stop bringing back shit and make interesting new shit or eat shit.
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Bringing back the (truly) original Accel is one sane thing they have managed to do for the past many, many years. It was (and hopefully still is) one of the best skate shoes ever, and even though I'm stacked up and happy with NB# these days, will probably get a pair at some point, if for nothing else, to rekindle my memories of the late 90's and my consistent kickflips.
That said, I have zero interest in their other products.
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i bought a pair of the new accels in white leather, i should get them today. i got this weird feeling from skating dunks this entire year and i wanted to skate some actual skate shoes and not sports brands. i'll post some pics when i get them, hopefully they really are slimmer than the ogs because i had those like 10 years ago and i remember being super disappointed that they are not the same shoes koston wore in mouse lol
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would be great if they brought something new but nothing wrong with milkin your golden goose
i swear if i was a sneakerhead i would think the creagers and muskas were so tuff. Even the kostons
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would be great if they brought something new but nothing wrong with milkin your golden goose
i swear if i was a sneakerhead i would think the creagers and muskas were so tuff. Even the kostons
Nothing wrong for the company itself sure, but by doing that you get stick creatively + current talent don't get money from having their own shoes.
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tj rogers just got a pro shoe but go off
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true, i guess i didnt think of it like that
i was thinking like nike milked their goose [a basketball shoe from the 80s, as well as other gooses along the way] to be able to afford get people other shoes. Whose shoes are really hot foreal? No one else's shoes seem that creative. Maybe NB tech is better???
How many people have current shoes on Adidas? Nike? Vans? NB?. Like three/four a piece? Im sure they are selling at least 3/4 times as many shoes as eS. I think they would give out shoes if they could, they did when they could. Emerica too
Idk if thats a good argument tho. idk wtf is going on as eS internally. Nidecker got bread right? im sure they could make some investments, maybe take so loses to innovate. Actually i dont know. I dont know shit. I just know i like skating Accels [semi-phat]. A real video would be cool too. Losing Aimu really fucked them.
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Losing Aimu everybody really fucked them.
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tj rogers just got a pro shoe but go off
has this been confirmed/spotted in the wild?
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tj rogers just got a pro shoe but go off
has this been confirmed/spotted in the wild?
In the new shoe release thread on the last page is a pic of the second colorway of his pro model? The first being leaked a couple months ago, I have no horse in this fight but you gotta start using your context clues buddy, everyone is gonna laugh at you
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i painted the logos in with a permanent marker and the one on the tongue got all nasty after 10 minutes of skating
so this pair turned out to be a sample, which is probably why they were cheaper than everywhere else and only available in a 9. they don’t have the lace loop on the tongue and a different insole than the final version, but the shape seems to be a match. they seem to be well made and are comfortable, decent amount of puff but nothing crazy, as it should be i guess. i skated in them for like 45 minutes and they worked really well, i did a decent kickflip in them first try right out the house lol
oh and the size tag on the tongue says ”accel 95”, i don’t know why they didn’t run with it for the release but whatever
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anyone got experiences with sizing up? Accel OGs. Would a half size up give more toe box room or just make the shoe longer.
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Es fans, our own pretentious roundtable talk shoe tech video just dropped. Also you can get 20% off all sole tech shoes with code "spencer20"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXUfuNmRyTw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXUfuNmRyTw)
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Doesn’t Ben degros have a code? I think supporting him is the no brainer if I was to pick…
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No independent shops anywdere in my state have been carrying eS, so on a recent trip down to California I picked up a pair of the remastered Accel at LB Skate. I've been skating them since, black/gum/white laces is such an all-time good look for skate shoes. Really happy with them, just the right amount of puff for someone used to skating Dunks or anything. I'll echo what Degros said, I think the toe shape is a tasteful happy medium. Such a better toedown look than those "OG" puff monstrosities.
I skated the Accel Slims in 2015 and loved them, but having gone back towards slightly more built up shoes, I'm very happy to be skating these new more true 1995 ones.
Also the box is sick. It reminds me of the boxes from the golden era of like Menikmati and slightly before that.
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Es fans, our own pretentious roundtable talk shoe tech video just dropped. Also you can get 20% off all sole tech shoes with code "spencer20"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXUfuNmRyTw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXUfuNmRyTw)
are they the same size because in some shots it looks like the og is an 11 and the 95 is a 5,5. i'm at work so i can't listen to the audio.
also does anybody have experience with cutting out the foam from the tongues of og accels? is it glued in there or is it possible to pull at least some of it out and sew the tongue back together?
i love these 95s that i got but they don't even have them in poland yet, i got lucky with that one random ass sample pair that was out there. they have a ton of life left in them but i'm always on the look out and i don't want to buy any other brands for now, i got really fucking tired of the sports brands logos and i feel much cooler skating in real, traditional skate shoes. i already skated the ogs back in 2015 and i know that the tongue on those is way too big for my standards and will be pressing on my foot, but if i could make it a bit thinner they should work pretty well and hold me over until i can get more of the 95s for a slightly discounted price.
shit i might just go the youtube route, film a couple clips, make a shoe review and the nidecker bros are probably going to be in my DMs in no time judging by the 15 videos about accels i've already seen
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I de-puffed a pair of creagers just fine, I’m sure you could with the Accel tongue.
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Sorry to bump this. I WTB one nine 7 in the white, black, or navy and gum color in an 11. Anyone got a lead?
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Sorry to bump this. I WTB one nine 7 in the white, black, or navy and gum color in an 11. Anyone got a lead?
A few popped up. Just keep scrolling to find the one nine 7’s
But I didn’t see any gum sole :P some cool colors though. Black and lime?
I saw two black with grey sole.
https://shoplurker.com/search?region=usa&brand%5B%5D=eS&filter_shoe%5B%5D=11.0&lat=&lon=&sort=default&search=7&page=1
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I’d be down to try the ’95 Accel, but it looks like they’re only sold in Blue Tomato or Zalando around here..
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I’d be down to try the ’95 Accel, but it looks like they’re only sold in Blue Tomato or Zalando around here..
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/b/es-shop/shoes
Skatedeluxe has them too, 15% off site wide right now
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^thanks for the tip rock!
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https://supersklep.pl/i358158-buty-es-accel-black
you can also buy them from here, located in poland. it's a step above blue tomato
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Es fans, our own pretentious roundtable talk shoe tech video just dropped. Also you can get 20% off all sole tech shoes with code "spencer20"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXUfuNmRyTw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXUfuNmRyTw)
are they the same size because in some shots it looks like the og is an 11 and the 95 is a 5,5. i'm at work so i can't listen to the audio.
also does anybody have experience with cutting out the foam from the tongues of og accels? is it glued in there or is it possible to pull at least some of it out and sew the tongue back together?
i love these 95s that i got but they don't even have them in poland yet, i got lucky with that one random ass sample pair that was out there. they have a ton of life left in them but i'm always on the look out and i don't want to buy any other brands for now, i got really fucking tired of the sports brands logos and i feel much cooler skating in real, traditional skate shoes. i already skated the ogs back in 2015 and i know that the tongue on those is way too big for my standards and will be pressing on my foot, but if i could make it a bit thinner they should work pretty well and hold me over until i can get more of the 95s for a slightly discounted price.
shit i might just go the youtube route, film a couple clips, make a shoe review and the nidecker bros are probably going to be in my DMs in no time judging by the 15 videos about accels i've already seen
I've only de-puffed a shoe tongue once before, but the foam was easy to remove/not really glued down. I just removed the laces and did a slice through the bottom of the inside of the tongue (be careful not to cut all the way through). Only thing is it's just one thick piece of foam, so removing some (but not all) of it might be tough. I guess if you really wanted to, you could try and sort of fillet the foam in half, or get a thinner hunk of foam and cut it to the shape.
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https://supersklep.pl/i358158-buty-es-accel-black
you can also buy them from here, located in poland. it's a step above blue tomato
Thanks for this tip too, but I went with 2 pairs of Manteca 4’s from skatedeluxe. ~45 euros for pair, not bad. Some even cheaper, but not on my size.
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New green colorway of the accel 95 currently out in Japan
(https://i.ibb.co/YBFkb5TN/IMG-6747.png) (https://ibb.co/pjBznHr1)
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posted my don brown accels on Depop and they are getting hella traction? Is es back? Just got that Stevie hate too
I ordered some two weeks ago and tracking say they still waiting. Somebody emailed me back atleast. I hope they are true OG’s im so tired of skating these Globes
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could be the post office or donald trump on my fault for talking so much shit on the net but I still ain’t get my order
fuck es omg I need some shoes wtf. just seen tj shoe and tour and genuinely don’t give a fuck. my heart is jaded
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The '95s are TTS, no?
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posted my don brown accels on Depop and they are getting hella traction? Is es back?
Nah eS will never be back but there's loads of younger kids that like the puffy Accels.
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The '95s are TTS, no?
yes, the leather version is kinda tight at first but breaks in fairly quickly. i saw that the suede is a bit more roomy from the start though, but not by much
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Nah eS will never be back but there's loads of younger kids that like the puffy Accels.
I too love puffy accels, just got my refund from es and once again unsworeoff wearing them again. Cant trust the site so I ordered from exodus ride ship off shop lurker. Might start hoarding em
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Wow. So after black and white, the next two colors they release for the 95 Accel are..............pink and teal?
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You missed all brown suede. And that’s much more of a forest green.
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would have copped if they OG’ed em? Are they gonna phase OG’s out? I remember hearing that somewhere but can’t remember
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This is the color I really want.
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You missed all brown suede. And that’s much more of a forest green.
100% looks like forest green. I was just going off what they called it on their website. Either way........
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This is the color I really want.
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For the '95 Accel, they're doing an all brown Tom Penny edition for Fall '25 after this second round of summer '95 (pink & forest green)
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This is the color I really want.
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Wanted these ones so badly as a kid after watching Yeah Right
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I want the ones PJ wore in really sorry, badly. Brown/light brown/white.
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You all getting personal emails from Pierre for Es discounts now, or is just me?
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glad to see tjs selling out hope it’s real
sorry I said I didn’t care the other day
them green koston 2s are so hot
aimu would a killed those :(
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Got the white and red TJs from my local so I was able to skate them today. They are so good, got my usual size in es and they fit like a dream. Great flick and really good grip, so stoked on them. I would recommend using the lace protectors, there is a lot of wear on the eye stay area, pretty sure I would of ripped a lace today if I hadn’t used them.
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I totally spaced on today being the release day, even though I've been in the know 8/21 was released date for a week haha! Hoping to hit a local and snag a pair!
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So hey, anyone been skating the Accel 95's already? Kinda wanting to get a pair as it was my fave shoe in the 90's, but I've got too many NB#'s on ice and yeah I dunno.
Anyone with the insight to compare the 95 with some current NB# models? My caveat is that the 95 would feel drastically too different to what I'm used to skating these days (mostly the 440 and 600).
But man do they look good as ever.
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Got the white and red TJs from my local so I was able to skate them today. They are so good, got my usual size in es and they fit like a dream. Great flick and really good grip, so stoked on them. I would recommend using the lace protectors, there is a lot of wear on the eye stay area, pretty sure I would of ripped a lace today if I hadn’t used them.
So how do they fit compared to the Ccel OG? Are they similar in width in the toebox?
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I haven't been around for a hot minute (read: 15 years) so I have been trawling threads to catch up on what's-what. I really like how the OGs fit but I got them on a steep discount (possibly a pricing error) so I'm looking for options for when I inevitably fuck em up. Can anyone compare OG fit to Quattros or Etnies Snakes etc? Seeing those around a bit at online shops but nothing local, so
wanted some opinions. Appreciate it!
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Got the white and red TJs from my local so I was able to skate them today. They are so good, got my usual size in es and they fit like a dream. Great flick and really good grip, so stoked on them. I would recommend using the lace protectors, there is a lot of wear on the eye stay area, pretty sure I would of ripped a lace today if I hadn’t used them.
So how do they fit compared to the Ccel OG? Are they similar in width in the toebox?
Unfortunately I haven’t skated the Accel OG in a while, i would say they have more room in the toe box area than the 298
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So hey, anyone been skating the Accel 95's already? Kinda wanting to get a pair as it was my fave shoe in the 90's, but I've got too many NB#'s on ice and yeah I dunno.
Anyone with the insight to compare the 95 with some current NB# models? My caveat is that the 95 would feel drastically too different to what I'm used to skating these days (mostly the 440 and 600).
But man do they look good as ever.
Accels were my first skate shoes ever so I am also tempted by them, but based on Ben D’s reviews I’d temper my expectations or at least try not to compare them to modern skate shoes from the big brands. He has a mostly positive review of them but said that they feel very much like what they are (a shoe designed in the 90s) both for better and for worse
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I met a es skater
He was pretty weird. Had makeup/eyeliner on i don’t even think he was gay. Maybe bi. Didn’t really care.
First seen him and he was asking if I could help get his truck off it was stuck on his board or sum shit. I tried cause I was bored and tired tryna avoid skating. I gave up after a while.
He asked if he could tag my griptagr. I liked the boldness but wtf bro no. He was tryna sell his stickers for $2. Seems like a lot of the skaters up Howard do graff. I hate skating with Howard skaters I feel like an outsider but my homie I be skating with likes to hang with them.
Whatever. He got me to play my second game of skate ever and the first game I ever finished. He was better than me but I held my own. He ain’t do it in skate but he had a weird freestyle trick in his bag. I feel like es skaters be on some freestyle shit. If you see this it’s all love bro
Oh another es skaters that be at shaw crossed over to cons that made me sad :(
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So hey, anyone been skating the Accel 95's already? Kinda wanting to get a pair as it was my fave shoe in the 90's, but I've got too many NB#'s on ice and yeah I dunno.
Anyone with the insight to compare the 95 with some current NB# models? My caveat is that the 95 would feel drastically too different to what I'm used to skating these days (mostly the 440 and 600).
But man do they look good as ever.
Accels were my first skate shoes ever so I am also tempted by them, but based on Ben D’s reviews I’d temper my expectations or at least try not to compare them to modern skate shoes from the big brands. He has a mostly positive review of them but said that they feel very much like what they are (a shoe designed in the 90s) both for better and for worse
The Accel 95 shape feels far more contoured to your foot than the "boxy" Accel OG we've had prior to 2024+ releases, which are a diet Accel OG compared to 2023 and before releases.
The Accel 95 toe box looks more pointy in comparison, so it fits your foot better, though you may need to 0.5 up from your usual size, kinda like the OGs.
I haven't skated my leather pair, but I'm looking forward to it. The 600 is close, but I reckon the Accel fits better than the 600. Less heel-toe drop in Accel over the 600. The 440 would be closer to a beefed up Accel Slim, so the Accel '95 would be somewhere in between a 440 and 1010 tech-wise and fit wise, but closer to a 480 shape, but with more padding. They're also a softer insole/outsole feeling, whereas NB# rubber feels pretty hard and plasticy on the 440/480 models.
This is my opinion and not fact, so keep that in mind if you choose to try them out. Also, you can swap an insole in the Accel, just like 440 and 600 to add more comfort/cushion if needed. I'd also recommend the suede colors @rikki
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eS actually stands for “es skater”
you can DM Don brown to confirm
I dmed him he aint say nothing just asked me if I knew that bam used to tape the Nike logo on his accels because he loved em so much
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new bangin colorway of the '95s
it's not like the big boys aren't releasing bullshit like this too, but i don't know why they'd put this shit out before the brown/gums though. surely more people would jump on that one?
I haven't been around for a hot minute (read: 15 years) so I have been trawling threads to catch up on what's-what. I really like how the OGs fit but I got them on a steep discount (possibly a pricing error) so I'm looking for options for when I inevitably fuck em up. Can anyone compare OG fit to Quattros or Etnies Snakes etc? Seeing those around a bit at online shops but nothing local, so
wanted some opinions. Appreciate it!
length-wise accel ogs and snakes are pretty much the same, but the toebox on the accel ogs is a lot wider and taller. for me personally it was too much space and i couldn't figure out how to skate them. the snakes are a really slim shoe, slimmer than the accel 95s, i really liked skating them.
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(https://esskateboarding.com/cdn/shop/files/5101000215-650-S-001.webp?v=1753791422&width=1946)
new bangin colorway of the '95s
it's not like the big boys aren't releasing bullshit like this too, but i don't know why they'd put this shit out before the brown/gums though. surely more people would jump on that one?
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I haven't been around for a hot minute (read: 15 years) so I have been trawling threads to catch up on what's-what. I really like how the OGs fit but I got them on a steep discount (possibly a pricing error) so I'm looking for options for when I inevitably fuck em up. Can anyone compare OG fit to Quattros or Etnies Snakes etc? Seeing those around a bit at online shops but nothing local, so
wanted some opinions. Appreciate it!
length-wise accel ogs and snakes are pretty much the same, but the toebox on the accel ogs is a lot wider and taller. for me personally it was too much space and i couldn't figure out how to skate them. the snakes are a really slim shoe, slimmer than the accel 95s, i really liked skating them.
That's a lot of pink. Thanks for letting me know about the Snakes, a shame as I have shovels for feet and the OG leave a little room but are comfy.
The reference point in my head is that I fit US13 Nike Blazers perfectly when they've stretched out a bit (but I wear these as chillers because of the lack of insole/impact support) so overly pointy or slim doesn't work well. I actually need to put a pair of Vertebrae on vinted as I really wanted them to work but they are just that bit too narrow and I don't think the way they're constructed will let them loosen up.
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(https://esskateboarding.com/cdn/shop/files/5101000215-650-S-001.webp?v=1753791422&width=1946)
new bangin colorway of the '95s
it's not like the big boys aren't releasing bullshit like this too, but i don't know why they'd put this shit out before the brown/gums though. surely more people would jump on that one?
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I haven't been around for a hot minute (read: 15 years) so I have been trawling threads to catch up on what's-what. I really like how the OGs fit but I got them on a steep discount (possibly a pricing error) so I'm looking for options for when I inevitably fuck em up. Can anyone compare OG fit to Quattros or Etnies Snakes etc? Seeing those around a bit at online shops but nothing local, so
wanted some opinions. Appreciate it!
length-wise accel ogs and snakes are pretty much the same, but the toebox on the accel ogs is a lot wider and taller. for me personally it was too much space and i couldn't figure out how to skate them. the snakes are a really slim shoe, slimmer than the accel 95s, i really liked skating them.
That's a lot of pink. Thanks for letting me know about the Snakes, a shame as I have shovels for feet and the OG leave a little room but are comfy.
The reference point in my head is that I fit US13 Nike Blazers perfectly when they've stretched out a bit (but I wear these as chillers because of the lack of insole/impact support) so overly pointy or slim doesn't work well. I actually need to put a pair of Vertebrae on vinted as I really wanted them to work but they are just that bit too narrow and I don't think the way they're constructed will let them loosen up.
fwiw the sal 23 reissue has a bit more width to it. i'd say it's somewhere between the accel og and accel 95. they fit a bit big though, i got them in a us9 and they're more like a 9.25 if that makes sense. i got the snakes in a 9.5 and length wise they might have been the tiniest bit longer but definitely more narrow. puffiness is pretty much on par with the accel 95 i'd say, but there's no midsole and the tongue is a bit thinner, not by much though
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Thanks for the tip, I'll check em out!
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(https://esskateboarding.com/cdn/shop/files/5101000215-650-S-001.webp?v=1753791422&width=1946)
new bangin colorway of the '95s
it's not like the big boys aren't releasing bullshit like this too, but i don't know why they'd put this shit out before the brown/gums though. surely more people would jump on that one?
I love these a lot in a weird way. Not sure if I wanted to wear 'em, but they be kinda sexy yo.
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They made the color I want. Hopefully they still have e my size in stock in a couple of weeks when I have money to buy them.
(https://i.ibb.co/2RgQ637/IMG-0751.png) (https://ibb.co/C4hZtK5)
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I wore my Accel 95 Tom Penny’s today and one of my students thought I was wearing Uggs.
They were super comfortable and fit great. I’m someone who wears skate shoes I love as my chill shoes, and I have a lot of shoes to skate in that are next in line, so it’ll be awhile until I skate in these. I just like them too much.
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first time buying es in forever but I had to get the 2003 type beat colorway. I'm impressed with the build quality, a huge step up from the og accel and it feels like they actually tried to make the shoe good. idk if it's 94 dollars good but they def cashin in on my nostalgia. red pair is og accel and brown pair is from 2004 which is pretty spot on except the tongue is skinnier on the "accel" which is good, I know it's based on a 90s model which had smaller tongue but everything else is on par with the 04 model. I wish they could've reissued the reynolds 2 that had this similar colorway before he left. (https://i.imgur.com/PxXclZ5.jpeg) (https://i.imgur.com/P61SLSS.jpeg) (https://i.imgur.com/yGkPOxS.jpeg) (https://i.imgur.com/aM1Jc1N.jpeg) (https://i.imgur.com/f39foby.jpeg) (https://i.imgur.com/A1SA87C.jpeg) (https://i.imgur.com/UwGRThl.jpeg)
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first time buying es in forever but I had to get the 2003 type beat colorway. I'm impressed with the build quality, a huge step up from the og accel and it feels like they actually tried to make the shoe good. idk if it's 94 dollars good but they def cashin in on my nostalgia. red pair is og accel and brown pair is from 2004 which is pretty spot on except the tongue is skinnier on the "accel" which is good, I know it's based on a 90s model which had smaller tongue but everything else is on par with the 04 model. I wish they could've reissued the reynolds 2 that had this similar colorway before he left.
is the grey on this new colorway very visibly grey or is it like super light? i thought those were going to be white and navy and the grey turned me off, but it looks almost white in your photos.
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first time buying es in forever but I had to get the 2003 type beat colorway. I'm impressed with the build quality, a huge step up from the og accel and it feels like they actually tried to make the shoe good. idk if it's 94 dollars good but they def cashin in on my nostalgia. red pair is og accel and brown pair is from 2004 which is pretty spot on except the tongue is skinnier on the "accel" which is good, I know it's based on a 90s model which had smaller tongue but everything else is on par with the 04 model. I wish they could've reissued the reynolds 2 that had this similar colorway before he left.
is the grey on this new colorway very visibly grey or is it like super light? i thought those were going to be white and navy and the grey turned me off, but it looks almost white in your photos.
it's a pretty light grey but it does look brighter in my pictures than it really is, this pic doesn't really help but you can kinda see it's more gray with diff lighting
(https://i.imgur.com/PhA1nMW.jpeg)
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unrelated but i think they used the accel sole for this npc’s shoe in gta. i got literally no one else to show this to so yeah
(https://i.imgur.com/9jdjysS.jpeg)
(https://shop.ccs.com/cdn/shop/files/7630949185518-4.jpg?v=1754458749)
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first time buying es in forever but I had to get the 2003 type beat colorway. I'm impressed with the build quality, a huge step up from the og accel and it feels like they actually tried to make the shoe good. idk if it's 94 dollars good but they def cashin in on my nostalgia. red pair is og accel and brown pair is from 2004 which is pretty spot on except the tongue is skinnier on the "accel" which is good, I know it's based on a 90s model which had smaller tongue but everything else is on par with the 04 model. I wish they could've reissued the reynolds 2 that had this similar colorway before he left. (https://i.imgur.com/PxXclZ5.jpeg) (https://i.imgur.com/P61SLSS.jpeg) (https://i.imgur.com/yGkPOxS.jpeg) (https://i.imgur.com/aM1Jc1N.jpeg) (https://i.imgur.com/f39foby.jpeg) (https://i.imgur.com/A1SA87C.jpeg) (https://i.imgur.com/UwGRThl.jpeg)
Thanks for the pics. I just ordered mine.
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For sure go up half a size at least with the new accels.
I got my true size, they are really tight, I took the insoles out and then they fit perfect. Skate for 2 hours without the insoles and my heels and ankles have been killing me the last couple days.
I tried putting in some other thinner insoles I had around but still too tight.
I’m always reluctant to order up my size even when I k ow they run small because everytime I’ve had shoes that are too big/long, they legit mess up some of my tricks, kickflip especially.
I should have just done the half size up.
I want to wear and skate these navy grey accels but I have to deal with the pain if I do.
I would be much obliged if someone from eS sends me one of those secret 50% off codes so I can get the 11.5.
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unrelated but i think they used the accel sole for this npc’s shoe in gta. i got literally no one else to show this to so yeah
(https://i.imgur.com/9jdjysS.jpeg)
(https://shop.ccs.com/cdn/shop/files/7630949185518-4.jpg?v=1754458749)
Gnar'd. Love this kind of stuff ahah
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For sure go up half a size at least with the new accels.
I got my true size, they are really tight, I took the insoles out and then they fit perfect. Skate for 2 hours without the insoles and my heels and ankles have been killing me the last couple days.
I tried putting in some other thinner insoles I had around but still too tight.
I’m always reluctant to order up my size even when I k ow they run small because everytime I’ve had shoes that are too big/long, they legit mess up some of my tricks, kickflip especially.
I should have just done the half size up.
I want to wear and skate these navy grey accels but I have to deal with the pain if I do.
I would be much obliged if someone from eS sends me one of those secret 50% off codes so I can get the 11.5.
the sizing is kinda inconsistent, i had 3 pairs (all white leather), the first pair was a sample and the other 2 are production, the sample and the first production pair (with the 30 years insole print) were about the same, the other production pair (insole with only the es logo) is smaller, all are us 9s. luckily the smaller ones fit me well with thinner insoles, they're breaking in and they don't feel as tight anymore. i still love them though, great skate shoes
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For sure go up half a size at least with the new accels.
I got my true size, they are really tight, I took the insoles out and then they fit perfect. Skate for 2 hours without the insoles and my heels and ankles have been killing me the last couple days.
I tried putting in some other thinner insoles I had around but still too tight.
I’m always reluctant to order up my size even when I k ow they run small because everytime I’ve had shoes that are too big/long, they legit mess up some of my tricks, kickflip especially.
I should have just done the half size up.
I want to wear and skate these navy grey accels but I have to deal with the pain if I do.
I would be much obliged if someone from eS sends me one of those secret 50% off codes so I can get the 11.5.
the sizing is kinda inconsistent, i had 3 pairs, the first pair was a sample and the other 2 are production, the sample and the first production pair (with the 30 years insole print) were about the same, the other production pair (insole with only the es logo) is smaller, all are us 9s. luckily the smaller ones fit me well with thinner insoles, they're breaking in and they don't feel as tight anymore. i still love them though, great skate shoes
I got Accel in green black colorway, went true to size and they fit me perfectly (both in length and width of the shoe).
This iteration of Accel looks better in my opinion and fits closer to the foot and comes with better insole (removable thicker non perforated insole). First two colorways came with thin perforated insole.
Only negative that I can think of is that it is slightly lower around ankle, that can feel bit strange at first if you are used to Accel OG.
eS did good work with this shoe IMHO.
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Fwiw, the Accel 95 seems to be TTS. No need to size up for me at least.
Edit: been skating the black suede ones for a while now and enjoying them quite a bit. No complaints. They're a bit puffier than what I remember from back in the day, but then again, those were hella puffy days and the Accel wasn't even among the puffiest back then.
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The big accel OGs worked true to size for me.
I had the same issue with the creagers, had to skate them without the insole so they would fit. Etnies in my true size fit great, idk why eS doesn’t fit right anymore :(
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es plz don’t forget about us Accel og wearers in 2026
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I noticed the Accel fits ever so slightly tighter than Accel OG for me. Wide foot folks could benefit from half up in the Accel, as the toe box is more narrow than the OG.
I like both, but right now I've been enjoying the Accel OG more: chilling & skating. I think any Accel OG colorways from late 2022 onward improved their shape to be closer to the Accel '95 last, but still puffy like what was released 20-ish years ago.
I have 2 white leather and black suede Accel '95. Looking forward to skating them white leather after breaking them in. They look so fresh on foot!
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I just picked up a pair of the Swift 1.5s love the fit nad look, but I have never hurt so bad after skating. Part of it might be the fact that I am almost 53 and just restarting the sport, I figured a cup sole would be helpful! My other shoe, a vulc, while feeling a 1/2 size to big, is a dream to skate in.
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I just picked up a pair of the Swift 1.5s love the fit nad look, but I have never hurt so bad after skating. Part of it might be the fact that I am almost 53 and just restarting the sport, I figured a cup sole would be helpful! My other shoe, a vulc, while feeling a 1/2 size to big, is a dream to skate in.
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The Swift is a good shoe, but it is a generally thinner cupsole, as far as cupsoles go. Those Swifts with a better insole swapped in would probably not hurt your feet and feel better to skate tbh
Other cupsoles exist that are more plush, supportive, and won't hurt your feet:
Es Accel OG/Accel, NB 1010/480/808, Emerica Mute/KSL 3, Asics Japan Pro/Vic NBD
Vans Skate Halfcab could also work because the Pillar is a similar design as it. Vulc sole, too
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I just picked up a pair of the Swift 1.5s love the fit nad look, but I have never hurt so bad after skating. Part of it might be the fact that I am almost 53 and just restarting the sport, I figured a cup sole would be helpful! My other shoe, a vulc, while feeling a 1/2 size to big, is a dream to skate in.
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The Swift is a good shoe, but it is a generally thinner cupsole, as far as cupsoles go. Those Swifts with a better insole swapped in would probably not hurt your feet and feel better to skate tbh
Other cupsoles exist that are more plush, supportive, and won't hurt your feet:
Es Accel OG/Accel, NB 1010/480/808, Emerica Mute/KSL 3, Asics Japan Pro/Vic NBD
Vans Skate Halfcab could also work because the Pillar is a similar design as it. Vulc sole, too
My other shoe is the Pillar
Thanks for the other recommendations
Trying to decide between some Accel/Accel Mids/Mutes/KSL G6
Right now
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if you didn’t like the swifts definitely don’t get any accel slim version, there’s basically no cushioning on those. the accel 95 is a very good shoe with a full midsole
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if you didn’t like the swifts definitely don’t get any accel slim version, there’s basically no cushioning on those. the accel 95 is a very good shoe with a full midsole
Thanks
I am looking at insoles but it feels a bit wrong to spend more on insoles than I did on the shoes
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Even with the crappy insole in my 1.5s, I am not wanting to give up on the brand.
Looking currenty at the Swift 2, Rogers, Accel Fit, or the 298.
How, puff/size do the Rogers and 298 compare?
Any one tried the Accel Fit?
Looks like most of these come with the STI Insole
I am still waiting to hear back from eS Customer service, I sent them a 2nd email via the contact form
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Even with the crappy insole in my 1.5s, I am not wanting to give up on the brand.
Looking currenty at the Swift 2, Rogers, Accel Fit, or the 298.
How, puff/size do the Rogers and 298 compare?
Any one tried the Accel Fit?
Looks like most of these come with the STI Insole
I am still waiting to hear back from eS Customer service, I sent them a 2nd email via the contact form
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Swift 2.0 fits and feels noticeably different from Swift 1.5. Toe box fits tighter/narrower so you may wanna go 0.5 to 1.0 size up if you try them. The insole/sole combo is much better: more plush and cushioned feeling
TJ Rogers is a tank of a shoe. Puffy upper like Accel OG, but the sole is more firm and supportive. Much stiffer brand new, but feels excellent on foot. Like how enjoyers of the NB1010 feel about that shoe. You can feel the tech, but the forefoot seems like it will break in easy enough
Two Nine 8 is a mid-puffy cupsole. Upper feels surprisingly thinner & more flexible than it looks. It's a stiff cupsole, but the sole breaks in easily. This sole was used on the Evant (discontinued) that i skated in the past. The toebox on this one also fits pretty narrow for me like how the Swift 2.0 did.
The Accel Fit is a quality shoe. Fits better than the Swift 2.0, even though they use the same sole. Think of an Accel Slim meets Accel OG and you get a more trim/athletic version of the Accel. Can't wait to skate these!
All of the models I tried: Swift 2.0, Accel OG, Two98, Accel Fit, TJ Rogers - were all same size: 12.
To be honest, many brands offer poor quality insoles, not just Es. NB, DC, Nike, and Adidas all have thin shitty ortholite insoles in many of their models: cup & vulc. With that, I personally enjoy shoes/brands that have the option to remove the insole. I like the option to swap in my own preferred insole: aftermarket or from other shoes I've tried
Not sure what your preference/needs out of shoes are for skating, but many Es shoe models are easy to swap in better insoles for comfort & support
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Even with the crappy insole in my 1.5s, I am not wanting to give up on the brand.
Looking currenty at the Swift 2, Rogers, Accel Fit, or the 298.
How, puff/size do the Rogers and 298 compare?
Any one tried the Accel Fit?
Looks like most of these come with the STI Insole
I am still waiting to hear back from eS Customer service, I sent them a 2nd email via the contact form
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Swift 2.0 fits and feels noticeably different from Swift 1.5. Toe box fits tighter/narrower so you may wanna go 0.5 to 1.0 size up if you try them. The insole/sole combo is much better: more plush and cushioned feeling
TJ Rogers is a tank of a shoe. Puffy upper like Accel OG, but the sole is more firm and supportive. Much stiffer brand new, but feels excellent on foot. Like how enjoyers of the NB1010 feel about that shoe. You can feel the tech, but the forefoot seems like it will break in easy enough
Two Nine 8 is a mid-puffy cupsole. Upper feels surprisingly thinner & more flexible than it looks. It's a stiff cupsole, but the sole breaks in easily. This sole was used on the Evant (discontinued) that i skated in the past. The toebox on this one also fits pretty narrow for me like how the Swift 2.0 did.
The Accel Fit is a quality shoe. Fits better than the Swift 2.0, even though they use the same sole. Think of an Accel Slim meets Accel OG and you get a more trim/athletic version of the Accel. Can't wait to skate these!
All of the models I tried: Swift 2.0, Accel OG, Two98, Accel Fit, TJ Rogers - were all same size: 12.
To be honest, many brands offer poor quality insoles, not just Es. NB, DC, Nike, and Adidas all have thin shitty ortholite insoles in many of their models: cup & vulc. With that, I personally enjoy shoes/brands that have the option to remove the insole. I like the option to swap in my own preferred insole: aftermarket or from other shoes I've tried
Not sure what your preference/needs out of shoes are for skating, but many Es shoe models are easy to swap in better insoles for comfort & support
At 52 I want a shoe that doesn’t make my feet feel like I suffer from neuropathy and doesn’t make my back feel like I have been dead lifting…I already do that with the dead lifting I do
I am new enough that I am not stressing board feel yet. I want to be a lot skate for a few hours and not regret it.
From your amazing post, seems like the Accel Fit might be my next shoe.
Thanks a lot for the details
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Even with the crappy insole in my 1.5s, I am not wanting to give up on the brand.
Looking currenty at the Swift 2, Rogers, Accel Fit, or the 298.
How, puff/size do the Rogers and 298 compare?
Any one tried the Accel Fit?
Looks like most of these come with the STI Insole
I am still waiting to hear back from eS Customer service, I sent them a 2nd email via the contact form
T
Swift 2.0 fits and feels noticeably different from Swift 1.5. Toe box fits tighter/narrower so you may wanna go 0.5 to 1.0 size up if you try them. The insole/sole combo is much better: more plush and cushioned feeling
TJ Rogers is a tank of a shoe. Puffy upper like Accel OG, but the sole is more firm and supportive. Much stiffer brand new, but feels excellent on foot. Like how enjoyers of the NB1010 feel about that shoe. You can feel the tech, but the forefoot seems like it will break in easy enough
Two Nine 8 is a mid-puffy cupsole. Upper feels surprisingly thinner & more flexible than it looks. It's a stiff cupsole, but the sole breaks in easily. This sole was used on the Evant (discontinued) that i skated in the past. The toebox on this one also fits pretty narrow for me like how the Swift 2.0 did.
The Accel Fit is a quality shoe. Fits better than the Swift 2.0, even though they use the same sole. Think of an Accel Slim meets Accel OG and you get a more trim/athletic version of the Accel. Can't wait to skate these!
All of the models I tried: Swift 2.0, Accel OG, Two98, Accel Fit, TJ Rogers - were all same size: 12.
To be honest, many brands offer poor quality insoles, not just Es. NB, DC, Nike, and Adidas all have thin shitty ortholite insoles in many of their models: cup & vulc. With that, I personally enjoy shoes/brands that have the option to remove the insole. I like the option to swap in my own preferred insole: aftermarket or from other shoes I've tried
Not sure what your preference/needs out of shoes are for skating, but many Es shoe models are easy to swap in better insoles for comfort & support
I want to amend my earlier statement
The Accel Fit the Roger or 298, from the photos the 298 seems more slim, and that would win out over the Rogers
New guy problems
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Sorry for spamming this thread
anyone got picks of the 298 and the TJ side by side in the same pic?
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Sorry for spamming this thread
anyone got picks of the 298 and the TJ side by side in the same pic?
I sold my 298 or i would take the comparison photo for ya!
Happy to help with what I know about Es!
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Sorry for spamming this thread
anyone got picks of the 298 and the TJ side by side in the same pic?
I sold my 298 or i would take the comparison photo for ya!
Happy to help with what I know about Es!
You have been so much help, I think I found a store that has the Rogers and 298 in stock, running up to Denver after work.
They do not have the Fit, but they have some of the other Accel's so I can at least get an idea of what the Fit looks like.
But I am pretty sure it will come down to the Roger or 298
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Went with the All White 2 Nine 8
A little worried about sizing, I tried on the 8.5 in the shop, my usual size is 8, and it felt ok, but was 1/2 size long.
So I went with he 8, it might need to stretch a bit.
$45 shipped
Count it as a win.
The Rogers was amazing, wore a bit smaller than it looked. In the end, this trip, the cost difference won out
TMX
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(https://i.ibb.co/Y7jzqR8f/IMG-1875.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Y7jzqR8f)
Arrived today
Should have went 8.5 these I think will break in, but it’s gonna take a minute
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anybody got a lead on all blue, all red, all orange, all yellow Accel og I think one color came out in 22, somebody got a be sitting on some size 11
Anybody take that survey? Kinda confusing prolly a bitch to analyze but I like that they trying
Just watched the firm can’t stop for the first time, shit felt like a es video
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anybody got a lead on all blue, all red, all orange, all yellow Accel og I think one color came out in 22, somebody got a be sitting on some size 11
Anybody take that survey? Kinda confusing prolly a bitch to analyze but I like that they trying
Just watched the firm can’t stop for the first time, shit felt like a es video
Javi made the shoes look so good...
But then again, Javi makes everything look good...
I haven't popped on a pair of eS since probably '05, but if I can find a good deal...
Really wouldn't mind a pair of the TJs, but I don't know if they are even doing runs below a size 7...
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Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia
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Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia
The First Bloods were my favorite shoes in 2011.
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Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia
The First Bloods were my favorite shoes in 2011.
Square Ones, First Bloods, Accel TT, Cassette low & mid all chef's kiss to wear/skate
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Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia
Probably. Eldridge on eS was a downgrade.
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Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia
The First Bloods were my favorite shoes in 2011.
Square Ones, First Bloods, Accel TT, Cassette low & mid all chef's kiss to wear/skate
Yeah the square one and two were great
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Also, the Theory 1.5 - excellent mid top vulc from around that time
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Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia
No, I’ve been spamming don brown and Kelly hart for a square one remake for like a decade this point. I miss vulc es
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Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia
No, I’ve been spamming don brown and Kelly hart for a square one remake for like a decade this point. I miss vulc es
Square one was a garbage true. Poor build quality. I had 2 pair. The shoe feel apart before I could even skate it. It marked a he downfall of es for me imo.
That being they released a shoe called the Caspian a few years ago that looked good
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Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia
Don't give them any ideas.
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has anyone skated the fusion vulc shoes from like 2011? I never tried them and always wondered the point, I had the system g2 heels in the og reynold 3s. I remember the last pair I got before they went under was theory 2.0 and it had this DTTF insole that was huge like the adidas adiprene insoles from the suciu and superstar vulc from like 2017 and it was sick. I found them last year at my parents place but idk what happened to the insoles and I need them to skate.
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went on ebay to see if I could find any and got damn
(https://i.imgur.com/pSlKGWN.png)
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Here are some for $50:
https://westernskateco.com/search?q=square+one&options[prefix]=last
I don’t know whether you can wear or skate them, though. Someone told me that the foam in midsoles crumble after 5-10 years depending on humidity levels and how you store your shoes.
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Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia
Don't give them any ideas.
I’d give them money to bring back bobbys shoe
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went on ebay to see if I could find any and got damn
(https://i.imgur.com/pSlKGWN.png)
Those are Square Twos, too! Not even the OG Square One hahah
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Am I the only one who misses the vulc era of ES, with Bobby worrest, manderson and Danny Garcia
The last eS shoe I had was a Danny Garcia. I remember it being stiffer than I was used to plus black and like graphite. I think it was a collab with Atiba; maybe Ako? I remember a photo book but I was disappointed by the quality and binding, especially.
People were so upset about the Lakai sale last year but Rick & Mike disregarded some of the top skaters during their history and those guys left for greener pastures. I would’ve happily bought a Pops or D Gar shoe at the time they could’ve capitalized.
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I had a pair of the second D-Gar shoe (the vulcanized one), and one tongue was puffier than the other. Like 2:1 size comparison. It pissed me off so much.
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For some reason I want those Imprint Kevlars very much for chillers.
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For some reason I want those Imprint Kevlars very much for chillers.
came here to post about those? anybody got em? they look good, look like they would last a long time. $$$ tho
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For some reason I want those Imprint Kevlars very much for chillers.
came here to post about those? anybody got em? they look good, look like they would last a long time. $$$ tho
My coworker got a pair, they feel good in hand, and are not extremely poofy, they look like they would skate really well, he’s a painter/bike dude so I doubt he is gonna skate them, but they look sick, I’m kinda partial to the black color
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yeah I like the black color way the best too but the other ones aren’t bad. I was just bout to type how I couldn’t find any info/vids but I just saw a Ben degros vid on em from 3 days ago.
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if anyone cares they changed the insole on the accel for a thicker one and now they fit a half size smaller than they used to unless you switch it out. i don't know if the new insoles are good because i didn't use them but they seem better than the old ones.
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if anyone cares they changed the insole on the accel for a thicker one and now they fit a half size smaller than they used to unless you switch it out. i don't know if the new insoles are good because i didn't use them but they seem better than the old ones.
I've not bought accels many times because they can't stop changing things.
I have no idea how they will fit or how puffy they will be colorway to colorway, so just avoid them even though I've wished for a good accel for 20 years.
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if anyone cares they changed the insole on the accel for a thicker one and now they fit a half size smaller than they used to unless you switch it out. i don't know if the new insoles are good because i didn't use them but they seem better than the old ones.
I've not bought accels many times because they can't stop changing things.
I have no idea how they will fit or how puffy they will be colorway to colorway, so just avoid them even though I've wished for a good accel for 20 years.
To be honest, the current Accel '95 is the best take on Accels since before they switched to the moon boot puff in the early 2000s. I think you'd be pleased if you took a shot on them.
The insole change (removable on nearly all Es models since 2022) shouldn't steer you (or anyone really) away because it's comparable to every other brand out right now. Most brands offer mediocre insoles and aren't even removable.
Anyways, some Accel colorways are starting to have the insole that's found in the Emerica Mute and TJ Rogers, it seems. I reckon that's replacing the existing perforated one Es and Emerica were using. Pictures below. They're thicker and non-perforated, so more cushion
(https://i.imgur.com/phiKAlg.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5FB6Gxv.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/AOlfDYu.jpeg)
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To be honest, the current Accel '95 is the best take on Accels since before they switched to the moon boot puff in the early 2000s. I think you'd be pleased if you took a shot on them.
The insole change (removable on nearly all Es models since 2022) shouldn't steer you (or anyone really) away because it's comparable to every other brand out right now. Most brands offer mediocre insoles and aren't even removable.
Anyways, some Accel colorways are starting to have the insole that's found in the Emerica Mute and TJ Rogers, it seems. I reckon that's replacing the existing perforated one Es and Emerica were using. Pictures below. They're thicker and non-perforated, so more cushion
Agree on the Accel '95 being great. It really is like the original Accel. I can't stand the super-puffy "OG" version, plus the naming has always put me off. The '95 is the actual "og" now.
Anyway, yeah, good to know about the new insoles being included in the new Accels as well. The perforated ones are pretty weak. I swapped a pair of old STI insoles that I saved from a pair of Joslins way back and they work great in my '95s.
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just got some white Accel ogs and they are the best [wide foot freaks]. My pinky toe is in heaven. They breaking in so fast/good. I don’t really like white shoes but they were $60. I think they the first Accel I had too.
Glad the new original are working for you guys but literally fuck them shits not fair y’all getting all the exotic colors and new insoles and shit.
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From a cushioning/sole unit perspective, the Swift 2.0 and the Accel Fit are like the same shoe, right?
I’ve been seeing some crazy deals on those. What’s the sizing on those like? I used to go down a half size from my typical Nike/NBs on the older Soletech shoes but the last time I tried that with an Etnies Joslin it was way too snug.
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From a cushioning/sole unit perspective, the Swift 2.0 and the Accel Fit are like the same shoe, right?
I’ve been seeing some crazy deals on those. What’s the sizing on those like? I used to go down a half size from my typical Nike/NBs on the older Soletech shoes but the last time I tried that with an Etnies Joslin it was way too snug.
I would go with the swift 2.0. Looks like the sole is refined (more curve so that helps the shoe conform to your foot better. Also the inner fabric breathes better and grabs your sock better due to the perforations.
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From a cushioning/sole unit perspective, the Swift 2.0 and the Accel Fit are like the same shoe, right?
I’ve been seeing some crazy deals on those. What’s the sizing on those like? I used to go down a half size from my typical Nike/NBs on the older Soletech shoes but the last time I tried that with an Etnies Joslin it was way too snug.
Swift 2.0 fits tighter than Accel Fit in my experience after trying both out in the same size. I think the Accel Fit is the better choice but the Swift 2.0 look better I reckon
Swift 2.0 runs 0.5 small while Accel Fit is much closer to TTS.
Odd, since they both share the same sole.
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Accel day kelvar accel hype? 300 pairs world wide? Shop exclusive?
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Accel day kelvar accel hype? 300 pairs world wide? Shop exclusive?
300 pairs total for 33 shops, according to the post. 35th Ave and No Comply will have them.
I want a pair but they’ll probably sell out before I get a chance. If I can’t get a pair, I’ll settle for those Kevlar Imprints because I hate the way shoe-gooed shoes feel when they rub against the griptape.
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just got some white Accel ogs and they are the best [wide foot freaks]. My pinky toe is in heaven. They breaking in so fast/good. I don’t really like white shoes but they were $60. I think they the first Accel I had too.
Glad the new original are working for you guys but literally fuck them shits not fair y’all getting all the exotic colors and new insoles and shit.
Can anyone else confirm? The OG fit wider than the 95’s?
I’m also a wide foot and need that extra space
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Accel day kelvar accel hype? 300 pairs world wide? Shop exclusive?
300 pairs total for 33 shops, according to the post. 35th Ave and No Comply will have them.
I want a pair but they’ll probably sell out before I get a chance. If I can’t get a pair, I’ll settle for those Kevlar Imprints because I hate the way shoe-gooed shoes feel when they rub against the griptape.
Imprints go harder imo. Seems they really hyped on the kelvar. I wanna try too but don’t feel like risking trying something new.
I think I like that there trying to do limited release through shops
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just got some white Accel ogs and they are the best [wide foot freaks]. My pinky toe is in heaven. They breaking in so fast/good. I don’t really like white shoes but they were $60. I think they the first Accel I had too.
Glad the new original are working for you guys but literally fuck them shits not fair y’all getting all the exotic colors and new insoles and shit.
Can anyone else confirm? The OG fit wider than the 95’s?
I’m also a wide foot and need that extra space
i can confirm, i can't do the accel og because there's way too much space in the toebox for me, it's wider and a little taller than the 95
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just got some white Accel ogs and they are the best [wide foot freaks]. My pinky toe is in heaven. They breaking in so fast/good. I don’t really like white shoes but they were $60. I think they the first Accel I had too.
Glad the new original are working for you guys but literally fuck them shits not fair y’all getting all the exotic colors and new insoles and shit.
Can anyone else confirm? The OG fit wider than the 95’s?
I’m also a wide foot and need that extra space
Absolutely the OG is a wider fit. You'll also need to size up 1.0 in the Accel '95 from your OG Size.
I'm a 12 in OGs and a 13 in '95. The '95 is noticeably more contoured toe to heel. I like the '95, but they are more snug up front vs the OGs in my opinion
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just got some white Accel ogs and they are the best [wide foot freaks]. My pinky toe is in heaven. They breaking in so fast/good. I don’t really like white shoes but they were $60. I think they the first Accel I had too.
Glad the new original are working for you guys but literally fuck them shits not fair y’all getting all the exotic colors and new insoles and shit.
Can anyone else confirm? The OG fit wider than the 95’s?
I’m also a wide foot and need that extra space
Absolutely the OG is a wider fit. You'll also need to size up 1.0 in the Accel '95 from your OG Size.
I'm a 12 in OGs and a 13 in '95. The '95 is noticeably more contoured toe to heel. I like the '95, but they are more snug up front vs the OGs in my opinion
Yup, ogs work for me, but the 95s just don't have enough volume up front. I'm bummed they didn't fit, because they look great, and they have some sick colorways out now.
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From a cushioning/sole unit perspective, the Swift 2.0 and the Accel Fit are like the same shoe, right?
I’ve been seeing some crazy deals on those. What’s the sizing on those like? I used to go down a half size from my typical Nike/NBs on the older Soletech shoes but the last time I tried that with an Etnies Joslin it was way too snug.
Swift 2.0 fits tighter than Accel Fit in my experience after trying both out in the same size. I think the Accel Fit is the better choice but the Swift 2.0 look better I reckon
Swift 2.0 runs 0.5 small while Accel Fit is much closer to TTS.
Odd, since they both share the same sole.
Haven't checked out eS in a hot minute and when I saw the Swift 2.0:
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That aside, been eyeing the Accel Fit, zero reviews online but they look like an interesting chance up from 1010s. Anyone have the word on how the fit and last?
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Kevlar Accel shouldn’t have been limited edition imho ….