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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: MusclesMarinara on April 09, 2024, 07:48:09 PM
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Mike V starting yet another company. Wonder if he’ll be using same art direction as the original Vallely Skateboards company. Also no more future Powell boards.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5jhUr8pDJO/?igsh=bDFkNjUzOWowaWs3
https://www.instagram.com/vallelyskateboards?igsh=MTB2eDdjZDc1YnZyaA==
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wait doesn't he already have a skateboard brand?
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He should let marcovich do a guest brand for his brand.
That’d be “doin it”
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Should be Street Plant. I really could care less about what he’s doing but I sure hope he didn’t fuck Svitak over and leave him holding the bag.
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It’s called by the sword
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These
Are
The
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Mike V starting yet another company. Wonder if he’ll be using same art direction as the original Vallely Skateboards company. Also no more future Powell boards.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5jhUr8pDJO/?igsh=bDFkNjUzOWowaWs3
https://www.instagram.com/vallelyskateboards?igsh=MTB2eDdjZDc1YnZyaA==
The Vallely elephant tusk bloard will go perfect with my new lightning bolt socks.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5auXIxp_xA/?igsh=bTB0NXp5M2ozOGZs
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I thought he no longer lived in California.....Ohio maybe....
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Wait, so is he doing it?
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Cariuma skateboarding legend seems to be doin' it
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That shape looks awfully dong-like.
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This man just needs to become a security guard already. It was the career he was born for.
A few tag line ideas
Vallely Skateboards: You Thought We Couldn't Get Any Lower
Lightening Skateboards: The Lightening Doesn't Even Strike Once
Elephant Skateboards : Forgettable
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"The previous three partings with Powell Peralta" makes it sound like he's trolling, if he was self-aware enough to do so.
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He should go back to Element
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So it's essentially to reissue all his old powell graphics?
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lol he's even more irrelevant now than when he tried this for the first time
imagine riding for this miscarriage of a skateboard brand and telling someone "i'm on vallely" like what do you mean by that
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lol he's even more irrelevant now than when he tried this for the first time
imagine riding for this miscarriage of a skateboard brand and telling someone "i'm on vallely" like what do you mean by that
It obviously means they'd be doin' it
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That Vallely Skateboards ig account was created in November 2023 and hasn’t posted anything else since then, and it's not listed in his personal page bio (still tags streetplant tho). Seems like this never got off the ground, or he just… isn't doin it
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"FOR THE MISFITS, THE PUNKS, THE POETS, THE ARTISTS, & THE WEIRDOS"
Nah, sorry, Mike, that's not doin' it for me.
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So is Street Plant done? The one brand he settled into and had some traction at the very least directly with his fans. The morphosis continues.
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So is Street Plant done? The one brand he settled into and had some traction at the very least directly with his fans. The morphosis continues.
you clearly do not know about the thing that was elephant skateboards
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Having been relevant once can be a curse.
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how has mike v not gone bankrupt
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Another one. Not too surprised but at the same time kind of thought he was done starting new companies.
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how has mike v not gone bankrupt
Chapter 13, that's doin' it
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you know, shout out to powell for not being dicks about their classic pro graphic catalog.
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&& is Vallely incarnate.
They should team up.
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These better come with a broom
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That shape looks awfully dong-like.
Money bumps be bumping hard. The “hammer” head for the streets.
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street plant is still a thing and still releases boards with Mike V's name on it, why even leave Powell again in the first place, fuck it just have 3 different companies putting your boards out, who would even notice (other than us)
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I’m very confused.
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I’m just guessing but he seems to be doing more with Black Flag.street plant may be done. I have not it seen many in the wild. Sounds like he might try to pull a lance type gig, where he does like a 100 limited release type board and sells them at a higher price. Problem is he ain’t lance mountain.
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Guessing it's gonna be a brand handled by a distributor with cheaper manufacture focused on reissue graphics, taking his graphics off Powell to try & get his hands on that Powell money. But without the Powell logo, it loses its attraction except for the dork ass sycophants pouring their salaries into this dogshit to go alongside their Gator collection.
I'd assume Street Plant would be still going, but I agree it's probably lost it's novelty factor and the dude just wants to fuck off doin' (it) his dipshit blogs. And i'm sure his family are jack of it.
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He should go back to Element
Element is out of the hardgood business, they're not going to make making boards pretty soon.
Guessing it's gonna be a brand handled by a distributor with cheaper manufacture focused on reissue graphics, taking his graphics off Powell to try & get his hands on that Powell money. But without the Powell logo, it loses its attraction except for the dork ass sycophants pouring their salaries into this dogshit to go alongside their Gator collection.
I'd assume Street Plant would be still going, but I agree it's probably lost it's novelty factor and the dude just wants to fuck off doin' (it) his dipshit blogs. And i'm sure his family are jack of it.
could see him trying to get that brand into walmart and costco. he's using the same artist as street plant, I'm sure it's just the same thing with a rebrand. I mean street plant hasn't done anything in a long time. guy is constantly on the road with black flag, has 20 dates in 25 days in august. I really don't see how this can be healthy mentally or physically for a man in his early 50s, especially with his history.
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when has street plant done anything other than releasing kristian svitak’s “kill the kool” video part
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when has street plant done anything other than releasing kristian svitak’s “kill the kool” video part
fat gonz
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how has mike v not gone bankrupt
That Cariuma pro model must be paying big time boiiii
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I wonder how long it will take Mike V to end up along side Doug Brown on the Midwestern middle school motivational speaker circuit?
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how has mike v not gone bankrupt
Probably getting like 3.50 an hour M-F
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Get up off your knees
And start some LLC’s
That’s doin’ it
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Street plant almost made Mike cool again then he blew it.
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Michael V needs to stop - it’s been going downhill since before the awful Label Kills part. Dude makes it embarrassing to be a skateboarder.
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I love Mike V. I'm so tempted to post some of the poems from his poetry book which I have. There are some really incredible pieces in there devoted to all the skaters and experiences he loves. Am I really the only one that has it? Its called Natas on my mind.
Here is "The First Push":
The first push
Consciousness
The asphalt passing underneath me
The infancy of my education
Absorbing all with no attachment
Like the firstborn man
Conforming to nobody
The meeting of the heavens and concrete
I will linger long in this moment
And I will return to loiter here
for the rest of my days
This one was short so I post under fair use for review purposes. There are some awesome bangers in there-- may favorite being an ode to DIYs called "A Ramp in the Woods" which actually made me cry. Hes also got tributes to Hawk, Natas, Gonz, Jamie Thomas, Lance Mountain, Jay Adams, Mullen, etc in there. Honestly everyone here should buy it if you can find a copy.
I am perplexed on the apparent Street Plant wind down as I do think based on some of the facebook groups for old skaters I'm in that street plant had some traction.
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Street plant almost made Mike cool again then he blew it.
I’ve said this before but I’m still very pissed that every vintage demotape got removed from Street Plant’s channel.
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He should go back to Element
had a homie who was riding for element, even had a part ESP Vol 2, and they just cut him the other day. truly came out of nowhere since they had been featuring him in a lot of things recently so hearing this makes me wonder if they are going to cut the rest of the team besides, and hopefully not, Westgate
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By The Sword
Elephant
Street Plant
Vallely
all since 2010
I'm guessing since he's doing Street plant out of his home, he has the infrastructure to produce his own "powell" board.
Don't know if that will make a difference to the demographic who were buying it to begin with.
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street plant is still a thing and still releases boards with Mike V's name on it, why even leave Powell again in the first place, fuck it just have 3 different companies putting your boards out, who would even notice (other than us)
Ding ding ding!
https://farmhouseindustriesllc.com/
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I have to disassociate that his public domain and rubbish heap parts are the same person as this narcissistic dweeb, it hurts inside to see him gone so wrong.
Naming a brand after yourself is also a very classy move.
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He should go back to Element
had a homie who was riding for element, even had a part ESP Vol 2, and they just cut him the other day. truly came out of nowhere since they had been featuring him in a lot of things recently so hearing this makes me wonder if they are going to cut the rest of the team besides, and hopefully not, Westgate
this is what ABG does, they cut everything and everyone that doesn't make them more money.
I wonder how long it will take Mike V to end up along side Doug Brown on the Midwestern middle school motivational speaker circuit?
according to his daughter, he's moved out to des moines, iowa.
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I’m just guessing but he seems to be doing more with Black Flag.street plant may be done. I have not it seen many in the wild. Sounds like he might try to pull a lance type gig, where he does like a 100 limited release type board and sells them at a higher price. Problem is he ain’t lance mountain.
he is for sure much more lame than Lance but he definitely has more than enough of a fanbase for that style of business to work well for him
I love Mike V. I'm so tempted to post some of the poems from his poetry book which I have. There are some really incredible pieces in there devoted to all the skaters and experiences he loves. Am I really the only one that has it? Its called Natas on my mind.
Here is "The First Push":
The first push
Consciousness
The asphalt passing underneath me
The infancy of my education
Absorbing all with no attachment
Like the firstborn man
Conforming to nobody
The meeting of the heavens and concrete
I will linger long in this moment
And I will return to loiter here
for the rest of my days
This one was short so I post under fair use for review purposes. There are some awesome bangers in there-- may favorite being an ode to DIYs called "A Ramp in the Woods" which actually made me cry. Hes also got tributes to Hawk, Natas, Gonz, Jamie Thomas, Lance Mountain, Jay Adams, Mullen, etc in there. Honestly everyone here should buy it if you can find a copy.
I am perplexed on the apparent Street Plant wind down as I do think based on some of the facebook groups for old skaters I'm in that street plant had some traction.
Art is subjective so I don't want to keep you from continuing to enjoy what you already enjoy but from my perspective that poem is not good lol. It's not horrendous but it's also approximately on par with the majority of the poems I heard from other students when I took poetry 101 in freshman year of college. Also the fact that you've only seen interest in Street Plant from old folks on Facebook would indicate to me that Street Plant does not have much traction. How many Street Plant boards have you ever seen being skated? I have only ever seen one (it was given to me by someone who wasn't interested in skating it anymore lol)
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Mike V starting yet another company. Wonder if he’ll be using same art direction as the original Vallely Skateboards company. Also no more future Powell boards.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C5jhUr8pDJO/?igsh=bDFkNjUzOWowaWs3
https://www.instagram.com/vallelyskateboards?igsh=MTB2eDdjZDc1YnZyaA==
The Vallely elephant tusk bloard will go perfect with my new lightning bolt socks.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5auXIxp_xA/?igsh=bTB0NXp5M2ozOGZs
That’s doin’ it
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Didn’t he already have Vallely skateboards (out of Black Label) in like 1999, or 2000 or something? Then went back to just being on Black Label
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Didn’t he already have Vallely skateboards (out of Black Label) in like 1999, or 2000 or something? Then went back to just being on Black Label
2024 is all bout re-doin it
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I’m just guessing but he seems to be doing more with Black Flag.street plant may be done. I have not it seen many in the wild. Sounds like he might try to pull a lance type gig, where he does like a 100 limited release type board and sells them at a higher price. Problem is he ain’t lance mountain.
he is for sure much more lame than Lance but he definitely has more than enough of a fanbase for that style of business to work well for him
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I love Mike V. I'm so tempted to post some of the poems from his poetry book which I have. There are some really incredible pieces in there devoted to all the skaters and experiences he loves. Am I really the only one that has it? Its called Natas on my mind.
Here is "The First Push":
The first push
Consciousness
The asphalt passing underneath me
The infancy of my education
Absorbing all with no attachment
Like the firstborn man
Conforming to nobody
The meeting of the heavens and concrete
I will linger long in this moment
And I will return to loiter here
for the rest of my days
This one was short so I post under fair use for review purposes. There are some awesome bangers in there-- may favorite being an ode to DIYs called "A Ramp in the Woods" which actually made me cry. Hes also got tributes to Hawk, Natas, Gonz, Jamie Thomas, Lance Mountain, Jay Adams, Mullen, etc in there. Honestly everyone here should buy it if you can find a copy.
I am perplexed on the apparent Street Plant wind down as I do think based on some of the facebook groups for old skaters I'm in that street plant had some traction.
Art is subjective so I don't want to keep you from continuing to enjoy what you already enjoy but from my perspective that poem is not good lol. It's not horrendous but it's also approximately on par with the majority of the poems I heard from other students when I took poetry 101 in freshman year of college. Also the fact that you've only seen interest in Street Plant from old folks on Facebook would indicate to me that Street Plant does not have much traction. How many Street Plant boards have you ever seen being skated? I have only ever seen one (it was given to me by someone who wasn't interested in skating it anymore lol)
I wanted a Jumbo Gonz from Street Plant, but they only made a small batch. Other less popular decks have been up on his site for years. It seems strange to commission an artist, create and test a unique shape and concave, just to produce such a small run that it sells out in days. Maybe he's swimming in cash.
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You guys notice that post is gone? Maybe he’s not doin it?
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You guys notice that post is gone? Maybe he’s not doin it?
broomed it off the ig
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Didn’t he already have Vallely skateboards (out of Black Label) in like 1999, or 2000 or something? Then went back to just being on Black Label
There was def a Vallely skateboards at that time. A friend had a Stefan attardo pro board. Not sure if he went back to BL tho. When was that by the sword or elephant?
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Didn’t he already have Vallely skateboards (out of Black Label) in like 1999, or 2000 or something? Then went back to just being on Black Label
thps4 mike v character has vallely skateboards decks. i remember reading about it on skately too. company was around for a year or two, according to aos they put out boards in 2002 and 2003. think it was element after that until 2010, then he did by the sword for 6 months, went back to powell for a year or two, started elephant in about 2012, that fell through after about a year as well, went back to powell, quit again, started street plant in 2014 or 2015, got kinda back on powell in the meantime, quit again just now and brought back vallely but that seems to have folded already too.
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powell seems kinda like a domestic abusee girlfriend with abandonment issues in this relationship
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Didn’t he already have Vallely skateboards (out of Black Label) in like 1999, or 2000 or something? Then went back to just being on Black Label
thps4 mike v character has vallely skateboards decks. i remember reading about it on skately too. company was around for a year or two, according to aos they put out boards in 2002 and 2003. think it was element after that until 2010, then he did by the sword for 6 months, went back to powell for a year or two, started elephant in about 2012, that fell through after about a year as well, went back to powell, quit again, started street plant in 2014 or 2015, got kinda back on powell in the meantime, quit again just now and brought back vallely but that seems to have folded already too.
wasn't he on black label somewhere between that, or was that before?
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THPS 4 was 2002. The decks were branded Vallely in the game. Wonder if he sold the rights to neversoft back than and it's now just expired.
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mike v and his ego suck. elephant still exists under select distribution. between dorfman, cariuma, shitty music and poetry he's the worst non-murderer old pro. the dudes who still think he's cool are likely same guys who buy gator reissues. i'm of that generation and it's embarrassing to lumped in with those goons.
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Didn’t he already have Vallely skateboards (out of Black Label) in like 1999, or 2000 or something? Then went back to just being on Black Label
thps4 mike v character has vallely skateboards decks. i remember reading about it on skately too. company was around for a year or two, according to aos they put out boards in 2002 and 2003. think it was element after that until 2010, then he did by the sword for 6 months, went back to powell for a year or two, started elephant in about 2012, that fell through after about a year as well, went back to powell, quit again, started street plant in 2014 or 2015, got kinda back on powell in the meantime, quit again just now and brought back vallely but that seems to have folded already too.
wasn't he on black label somewhere between that, or was that before?
black label was right before the first attempt at vallely skateboards
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mike v and his ego suck. elephant still exists under select distribution. between dorfman, cariuma, shitty music and poetry he's the worst non-murderer old pro. the dudes who still think he's cool are likely same guys who buy gator reissues. i'm of that generation and it's embarrassing to lumped in with those goons.
nailed it. Grifters gonna grift.
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So Mike’s sponsor timeline goes
Powell
World
New deal
TV
Powell
Transit
Black label
Vallely skates
Element
Elephant skates
Street plant
Powell
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he's the worst non-murderer old pro.
Lmao gnarred
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If I was that old and had no marketable skill set I would probably squeeze the grift as long as I could too. You gen x dorks work your it jobs and wear your cargo shorts. I’ll release the same graphic in different color’s periodically and you can reconnect with how cool you thought I was when your were 15. Just keep paying me.
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So Mike’s sponsor timeline goes
Powell
World
New deal
TV
Powell
Transit
Black label
Vallely skates
Element
Elephant skates
Street plant
Powell
Powell&
World&
New deal&
TV&
Powell&
Transit&
Black label&
Vallely skates&
Element&
By The Sword&
Elephant skates&
Street plant &
Powell&
Valley Skates
put it on a shirt
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THPS 4 was 2002. The decks were branded Vallely in the game. Wonder if he sold the rights to neversoft back than and it's now just expired.
art of skateboarding
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They also have a 1031 graphic from him. Stivtak was one 1031 so It could have been a guest board. IIRC elephant was orignaly through the 1031 distro. this board was between element and elephant
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If you guys dont tear up at this, you are not doing it. You aint a real ramp in the woods dirty jersey DIY head. That is doing it.
To the poster above-- Mike V didn't even go to freshman year of college. Thats how good he is: though, honestly, if I posted his ode to Tony Hawk I think you guys would lose your minds. It contains a rhyme that would likely be a new catch phrase on the board to replace doin it. To answer your question, I've seen two street plant boards in the wild, both of which I purchased and gave away to local skatepark kids because the shapes were unskateable for me. That is doing it! I wonder if it was you (I dont think so..)
He has thread after thread to him dedicated on slap..Is that doing it?
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I was working at a shop when Vallely skateboards came out, and for the first 6 months it was the top selling board brand at Giant besides Element, then it went to the bottom really quickly, never fully understood that, maybe the first few series went to bunch of old wash outs that never really skated them so they did need to be replaced. idk.
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I was working at a shop when Vallely skateboards came out, and for the first 6 months it was the top selling board brand at Giant besides Element, then it went to the bottom really quickly, never fully understood that, maybe the first few series went to bunch of old wash outs that never really skated them so they did need to be replaced. idk.
Confirmed that there is a group of folks that have bought every elephant board he has ever put out and have on the wall. Same with the various barnyard remixes. Never met any of these folks in real life, just based on the facebook collector group wall pics. More overlapping with the rest of the Powell peralta reissue crowd then the vision gator crowd, I think. Same folks have literally ever color of the Franky Hill bulldog.
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So Mike’s sponsor timeline goes
Powell
World
New deal
TV
Powell
Transit
Black label
Vallely skates
Element
Elephant skates
Street plant
Powell
I think he also rode for a company called Television but I could be wrong about that
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So Mike’s sponsor timeline goes
Powell
World
New deal
TV
Powell
Transit
Black label
Vallely skates
Element
Elephant skates
Street plant
Powell
I think he also rode for a company called Television but I could be wrong about that
If memory serves, TV morphed into Television after Ed and Mike left Dorfman's operation.
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The Mike V vs Jamie Thomas battle for who is the most narcissistic, contradictory, self-promoting, cringeworthy dude in skateboarding rages on. It’ll be interesting to see who comes out on top.
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I guess I should be a proud owner of these gems.
Shit next I’ll watch Drive and cry, listen Mike V and the Rats’s three songs CD at the intermission and finish with Stand Strong to get fully fired up to boneless my way to SxE show and slam into kids.
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I wonder how often his wife catches herself thinking about her breaking up with Jason Lee for Mike and thinks…. “What if?”
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So Mike’s sponsor timeline goes
Powell
World
New deal
TV
Powell
Transit
Black label
Vallely skates
Element
Elephant skates
Street plant
Powell
I think he also rode for a company called Television but I could be wrong about that
If memory serves, TV morphed into Television after Ed and Mike left Dorfman's operation.
I had television in my list but took it off because in my head that was just ed but I’m forgetful.
How long did by the sword last?
No recollection.
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Skateboarding didn't need a Henry Rollins.
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Who’s had more board sponsors, him or Markovich?
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These
Are
The
Days
I don't think you are referring to any of this, but there are a lot of bands who have written songs called "These Are the Days."
But the first thing that popped into my mind was a Paul Westerberg song named "These Are the Days" from his second solo album Eventually. And well damn it, I'd rather talk about Paul Westerberg more than Mike V....it's a slow day at work.
But the chorus of the song does talk about "company" and about "ego" so maybe this is fitting.
These are the days no one sees
They run together for company
I am the day no one needs
There'll never come another one like me
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Does he still get the company logos tattooed on his body somewhere? I feel I'd hafta disassociate when I looked at them after awhile.
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I don't think you are referring to any of this, but there are a lot of bands who have written songs called "These Are the Days."
But the first thing that popped into my mind was a Paul Westerberg song named "These Are the Days" from his second solo album Eventually. And well damn it, I'd rather talk about Paul Westerberg more than Mike V....it's a slow day at work.
But the chorus of the song does talk about "company" and about "ego" so maybe this is fitting.
These are the days no one sees
They run together for company
I am the day no one needs
There'll never come another one like me
i'm taking the bait here - paul's best work post-don't tell a soul is on the open season soundtrack. love you in the fall is astoundingly good and buried on the soundtrack of an animated movie no one remembers
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Re-read this thread while dropping a nasty Michelob Ultra induced deuce. That’s doin it
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The Mike V vs Jamie Thomas battle for who is the most narcissistic, contradictory, self-promoting, cringeworthy dude in skateboarding rages on. It’ll be interesting to see who comes out on top.
huh?
did Greco, Dyrdek, and Jereme Rogers all die or something?
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Still insane that Mike V’s company outlasted Geoff Rowley’s
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Street Plant isn’t going anywhere.
They have a John Mayer collaboration coming up soon.
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Street Plant isn’t going anywhere.
They have a John Mayer collaboration coming up soon.
My favorite skeeter
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I don't think you are referring to any of this, but there are a lot of bands who have written songs called "These Are the Days."
But the first thing that popped into my mind was a Paul Westerberg song named "These Are the Days" from his second solo album Eventually. And well damn it, I'd rather talk about Paul Westerberg more than Mike V....it's a slow day at work.
But the chorus of the song does talk about "company" and about "ego" so maybe this is fitting.
These are the days no one sees
They run together for company
I am the day no one needs
There'll never come another one like me
i'm taking the bait here - paul's best work post-don't tell a soul is on the open season soundtrack. love you in the fall is astoundingly good and buried on the soundtrack of an animated movie no one remembers
Thanks for taking the bait. Big Westerberg / Replacements fan over here. Just finished reading the Bob Mehr book Trouble Boys. If you haven’t read it yet and you’re a Replacements fan definitely pick it up from your local library.
“Live in the Fall” is definitely a good song. Thanks for turning me onto the soundtrack from that movie. Never heard any of the tracks off of it.
Personally, I like Westerberg’s solo work a lot. And how can you say that this is Westerberg’s best material since Don’t Tell a Soul?
The two songs Paul wrote for the Singles soundtrack are incredible. My Dad had that movie on Lazerdisc.
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Still insane that Mike V’s company outlasted Geoff Rowley’s
Is it?
Mike V's persuits are definetly lame. But they atleast appeal to a demographic..
FreeDome appealed to literally nobody.
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Skateboarding didn't need a Henry Rollins.
Everything could use a henry rollins. But nothing needs a mike Vallely, you can't play for play copy someone's else's ideas and come across as genuine. Innately people get a vibe. DRIVE was just his version of Get in the Van. And rollins copied that from an idea if Hemingway had sex with Henry Miller and had a baby. Everything is copied to some extent but you can't blatantly reuse ideas and expect to be genuine.
ALSO, I GUARANTEE WHEN MISFITS DID WCW (SAME TIME VALLELY DID 'STUNTS') THERE WAS AN INKLING HE WOULD BE ON TV WRASTLING WITH SAID BRANDED SKATEBOARD.
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Skateboarding didn't need a Henry Rollins.
Everything could use a henry rollins. But nothing needs a mike Vallely, you can't play for play copy someone's else's ideas and come across as genuine. Innately people get a vibe. DRIVE was just his version of Get in the Van. And rollins copied that from an idea if Hemingway had sex with Henry Miller and had a baby. Everything is copied to some extent but you can't blatantly reuse ideas and expect to be genuine.
ALSO, I GUARANTEE WHEN MISFITS DID WCW (SAME TIME VALLELY DID 'STUNTS') THERE WAS AN INKLING HE WOULD BE ON TV WRASTLING WITH SAID BRANDED SKATEBOARD.
I get he needs to make money. But he is more of a Greg Ginn than a rolljns really. Right now he has jacket on with sunglasses looking for the fasttimes, in the phonebook.(terminator reference).
I met rollins and Vallely personally. There is no comparison. Rollins is real. Vallely needs to take your money and essentially Templeton's too. Tv and television were same brand but one didn't have Vallely taking all the cake.