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General Discussion => WHATEVER => Topic started by: SneakySecrets on June 01, 2024, 02:29:34 AM
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I guess we’ve crossed the rubicon and have completely given up the idea of the rule of law. Ok. Democracy hasn’t ever worked and we are bystanders watching the thing fall apart right in our faces.
We’ve reached the point of societal collapse. It probably won’t happen this week, but within the next decade, yeah. Anyone that has read a bit about the fall of the Roman republic and empire could draw straightforward connections to our situation now and then. The devaluation of our currency, the flood of immigrants, weakening of borders, empirical overreach, famine (media refuses to cover our food factories keep catching fire)…
First off, we should see ourself not as a country but as the head of a worldwide empire. We spend more on our military than the next 12 counties combined. Wr have almost 1,000 military bases all throughout the world. We are itching for war against Russia and China and we will be obliterated if it ever kicks off. Look at the proxy war in Ukraine… is it going our way?
It’s very sad and very interesting to watch it happening in real time. Extremely painful would be the only way I could describe it.
Any cursory glance at the news compared to reality would tell someone that our society doesn’t work as we’ve been told it does.
Ok, so what are we to do? I have a few ideas. I know I’m speaking to a primarily brainwashed/progressive audience. The president is actually braindead. We are being steered by a cabal of corporate and special interests wearing the federal government as a skinsuit. These people don’t have our best interest in mind.
The world is uniting against us. Not only militarily but economically. We have this normalcy bias that keeps us from seeing what is approaching. I know it hurts to look at.
Hello???
Buy guns, learn how to use them, stock ammo, try to move your family into rural areas if possible, invest in precious metals. Learn how to grow and store food.
If you’re so indoctrinated that you think I’m crazy, then I don’t know what to tell ya… don’t have time for the debate. 🤷♂️
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Eh, before I venture into dark, misanthropic territory, are you alright sneaky? I can’t pretend to know you, but I feel like the tone of your posts has become bleaker over the past few years. And despite how weird and antisocial I am, I often think about many posters on here, you included, and I care about many of you in my own weird, distant way.
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Collapse (in almost every way) is happening now, probably has for a long time. We've fucked everything and the pile of shit gets bigger each day: business as usual.
The ecological collapse is what concerns me most and will decide our fate. The moment we thought we were separate and/or above nature ruined us. Like Carlin said, we gave everything up for money, decided to compete against rather than cooperate with, we squandered literally everything, etc, etc. We as a species deserve what's coming.
I have struggled for a long time accepting this. I thought I could shut it off but it's come straight back in the last few years. I move between depression and acceptance quite often.
Today is the best it gets.
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A client I met with yesterday was going on about how we are two years away (248) from a collapsed system as Rome made it 250 but I’m seeing that’s completely false.
Anyway, ironic that I saw this after that conversation.
My in laws would love this thread as they are preparing for the end. It’s laughable to me but hey, life’s a movie, man.
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The world is uniting against us. Not only militarily but economically. We have this normalcy bias that keeps us from seeing what is approaching. I know it hurts to look at.
Unlike with the fall of historical empires the world is so much more interdependent and connected now. if we go, the whole thing goes. and then we re-join the gatherer-hunters who always knew what's up.
it will crumble but timing is tricky. things could rapidly escalate with a certain series of events or we will continue this long slow death walk... don't know... grind now, worry later, become a prepper. we live in interesting times...
the only hope is complete decentralization of power... we all learn to survive on things we can acquire within walking distance of where we live and we cease all travel to and communication with anyone beyond that boundary... nomadic tribes of around 50 people.
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When I try to predict the future by looking at the past, I too like to use only one example from 1500 years ago, while also misinterpreting it in the process.
But seriously, I hope you recover from this far right doomerism episode.
It’s very sad and very interesting to watch it happening in real time.
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When I try to predict the future by looking at the past, I too like to use only one example from 1500 years ago, while also misinterpreting it in the process.
But seriously, I hope you recover from this far right doomerism episode.
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It’s very sad and very interesting to watch it happening in real time.
plenty of lefties and post-lefties feeling this also, these days, from what I've been reading.
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I would be happy if you could share what you read because most of what OP wrote does not read as lw ideas/sentiment, broadly speaking.
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When I lived in LA, I would watch the people experiencing homelessness in the small park across the street and think to myself, “I am one bad month away from not being able to pay for rent and living out there with them.”
It can be pretty bleak to think about the fragility of everything. (Fuck, just look at how fucked up getting TP was at the start of pandemic when the channels weren’t capable of supplying that kind of demand. And the stock market crash in early 1900’s?)
As inept and selfish and evil some people in power are, we still endure… and I have faith that it’s because there are still good people out there that aim to improve the human race and lookout for their fellow people.
As therapists will tell you: it’s all about what you focus on, because there will always be terrible things to think about, so try to cling to the good and positive things in life and be a positive influence and light to others.
Being prepared isn’t a bad idea, just with anything, do in moderation.
Be well my dude!
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When I try to predict the future by looking at the past, I too like to use only one example from 1500 years ago, while also misinterpreting it in the process.
But seriously, I hope you recover from this far right doomerism episode.
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It’s very sad and very interesting to watch it happening in real time.
plenty of lefties and post-lefties feeling this also, these days, from what I've been reading.
Yeah but it's not coming from the same place. Lefties believe the societal collapse is due to late stage capitalism yet the far-right believes the collapse is due to "wokeism" like feminism, LGBTQ rights, etc.
Seeing how to OP outlines "the flood of immigrants" and the "weakening of borders", I'm guessing this isn't coming from a left-wing perspective.
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I would be happy if you could share what you read because most of what OP wrote does not read as lw ideas/sentiment, broadly speaking.
read any column by George Monibot in The Guardian, ((https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/15/food-systems-collapse-plutocrats-life-on-earth-climate-breakdown (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/15/food-systems-collapse-plutocrats-life-on-earth-climate-breakdown)), https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/09/us-world-climate-collapse-nations (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/09/us-world-climate-collapse-nations)) pick up any recent issue of adjusters, listen to any weekly radio show by john zerzan and countless others. plenty of essays/ books on the left about the collapse.
a classic entry is, "The Coming Insurrection" https://iberian-connections.yale.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/The-Coming-Insurrection-Semiotexte-Intervention-by-The-Invisible-Committee.pdf (https://iberian-connections.yale.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/The-Coming-Insurrection-Semiotexte-Intervention-by-The-Invisible-Committee.pdf)
And, https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert (https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert)
You have a tonne of material on here, https://dark-mountain.net (https://dark-mountain.net)
Obvisouly, these are broader takes than the OP has but they all point to the same direction, end game.
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Yeah but it's not coming from the same place. Lefties believe the societal collapse is due to late stage capitalism yet the far-right believes the collapse is due to "wokeism" like feminism, LGBTQ rights, etc.
Mostly agree.
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I would be happy if you could share what you read because most of what OP wrote does not read as lw ideas/sentiment, broadly speaking.
read any column by George Monibot in The Guardian, ((https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/15/food-systems-collapse-plutocrats-life-on-earth-climate-breakdown (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/15/food-systems-collapse-plutocrats-life-on-earth-climate-breakdown)), https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/09/us-world-climate-collapse-nations (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/09/us-world-climate-collapse-nations)) pick up any recent issue of adjusters, listen to any weekly radio show by john zerzan and countless others. plenty of essays/ books on the left about the collapse.
a classic entry is, "The Coming Insurrection" https://iberian-connections.yale.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/The-Coming-Insurrection-Semiotexte-Intervention-by-The-Invisible-Committee.pdf (https://iberian-connections.yale.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/The-Coming-Insurrection-Semiotexte-Intervention-by-The-Invisible-Committee.pdf)
And, https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert (https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert)
You have a tonne of material on here, https://dark-mountain.net (https://dark-mountain.net)
Obvisouly, these are broader takes than the OP has but they all point to the same direction, end game.
Hah, I forgot that you're an anarchist. Thanks for the links.
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@Alan Derek Jensen articulates a take on imminent collapse you might find interesting. His analysis comes from an environmental perspective, and is pretty consistent with wider conservationist politics. Environmentalism isn't traditionally associated with rw politics, although maybe it could be, i don't pay enough attention to know.
https://youtu.be/b1aLsRduPqU
@SneakySecrets thanks for bringing up some interesting stuff. Personally I don't see the need to be so fearful and paranoid about it though. Humans adapt, it's what we do. Whatever we wind up seeing in our lifetimes, it'll all be part of a story that we'll navigate with ups and downs. Try lo live well, don't be afraid.
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personally i thought that movie civil war sucked, even if it had suicide and tribe on the soundtrack
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fuck that guy
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@Alan Derek Jensen articulates a take on imminent collapse you might find interesting. His analysis comes from an environmental perspective, and is pretty consistent with wider conservationist politics. Environmentalism isn't traditionally associated with rw politics, although maybe it could be, i don't pay enough attention to know.
https://youtu.be/b1aLsRduPqU
Thanks for this!
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People have been saying the world is ending for awhile....and they aren't wrong......
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I disagree.
Why is everyone in the land of the free scared shitless?
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I disagree.
Why is everyone in the land of the free scared shitless?
well, I kind just said this, bu fear isnt the only response, nor imo the most sensible or healthiest, to a projection of expected problems. But neither is negation of those problems.
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fear-mongering is real so be careful what you watch and read.
Joe Public is the same everywhere. We wake up each day, figure out breakfast, go to work/school/run errands/do our daily thing... we love our friends and family and our passions. Then we go to bed and repeat. Some days are easier than others.
Our politicians and industry leaders are assholes, but there are more of us, and we have more to relate over.
Just don't shit on your neighbor.
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Late stage capitalism feels like a fitting description whenever I check the news. I think America's downfall will be an implosion.
The wealth distribution data is a pretty clear picture as to how "trickle down" economics are a joke and only siphon money from the poor to the ultra wealthy.
America deserves at least one more solid revolution to get money out of politics and fix/eliminate the two party system.
Prepping is not a bad idea. It can get pricey though. I almost forgot a made a thread about it a few years back.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=101490.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=101490.0)
I actually need to change out the water I have stored. The water additives are only good for 5 years. I try to keep about 6 months worth on hand just because of how important water is. Some of the prepper stuff is pretty shitty quality so you have to make sure you test it out.
I bought this flashlight that was supposed to be amazing but it was absolute trash and barely worked. I should have known better than to buy from a company that had "patriots" in the title. https://4patriots.com/products/haloxt-tactical-solar-flashlights (https://4patriots.com/products/haloxt-tactical-solar-flashlights)
This is a video I like related to prepping. Make sure to turn on the subtitles since it is in French.
https://vimeo.com/242573626 (https://vimeo.com/242573626)
Not sure we have given up on the rule of law. Ol' 45 is a man-child that cannot handle anything that does not go his way. He can appeal and it will go through the process of review. Both the defense and prosecution were okay with the jurors selected and everything else at this point appears to have followed all the necessary processes. Due process is incredibly important.
He is doing a rinse and repeat of 2020. CLEARLY the election was rigged. Not the 2016 election though, because that time he won. Hopefully if he tries to pull the same crap there will be consequences in some way, shape, or form. Like Fox having to pay 780 million to settle out of court for false allegations that the election was stolen, which they presumably did because they did not want to go to trial.
He absolutely must be held accountable for Jan 6. If that trial does not occur before elections, I'll probably have a psychotic break.
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Try growing a garden, Sneaky. Not for survival after an apocalypse but to help you feel more connected right now. I wish you well.
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yes dude, the solution to 70 years of the reactionary right wing project that is slowly erasing our rights and lowering our standard of living is... more right wing policies and paranoia? try having some solidarity with your working class brethren, immigrants are not taking from you, it's the rich
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Congratulations on your joining the fringe of every single generation ever to exist in thinking you are special enough to see the end of days! I think I’m just going to wait this one out.
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This guy kind of irritates me but this video does a decent job illustrating why I get frustrated with the right about how they approach this whole mess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJmqmLjEHi8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJmqmLjEHi8)
How the right can make themselves/tRump the victim no matter the context drives me up the fucking wall. They are goading their base to more discord/violence than J6. The second half of 2024 is going to be a shit show whether or not tRump wins.
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I would be happy if you could share what you read because most of what OP wrote does not read as lw ideas/sentiment, broadly speaking.
read any column by George Monibot in The Guardian, ((https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/15/food-systems-collapse-plutocrats-life-on-earth-climate-breakdown (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jul/15/food-systems-collapse-plutocrats-life-on-earth-climate-breakdown)), https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/09/us-world-climate-collapse-nations (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/dec/09/us-world-climate-collapse-nations)) pick up any recent issue of adjusters, listen to any weekly radio show by john zerzan and countless others. plenty of essays/ books on the left about the collapse.
a classic entry is, "The Coming Insurrection" https://iberian-connections.yale.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/The-Coming-Insurrection-Semiotexte-Intervention-by-The-Invisible-Committee.pdf (https://iberian-connections.yale.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/The-Coming-Insurrection-Semiotexte-Intervention-by-The-Invisible-Committee.pdf)
And, https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert (https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anonymous-desert)
You have a tonne of material on here, https://dark-mountain.net (https://dark-mountain.net)
Obvisouly, these are broader takes than the OP has but they all point to the same direction, end game.
Hah, I forgot that you're an anarchist. Thanks for the links.
haha. I don't identify as an anarchist or any form of ist, but I have read and continue to be influenced by a lot of anarchist ideas, including derrick jensen. although he has taken some weird turns that involve transphobia and calling cops.
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I disagree.
Why is everyone in the land of the free scared shitless?
If I had to guess, it would be due to the economy clearly being much worse than what the media and government are claiming. This is the first time I remember the disparity between truth and message being THIS blatant.
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yes dude, the solution to 70 years of the reactionary right wing project that is slowly erasing our rights and lowering our standard of living is... more right wing policies and paranoia? try having some solidarity with your working class brethren, immigrants are not taking from you, it's the rich
Ten thousand gnars for you.
OP try not to be a brain dead idiot
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My faith in the rule of law has been partially restored over the last few days.
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@ungzilla has it right. We pushed inequality down in the USA and then Reagan, Von Hayek, Friedman, and Ayn Rand brought in their free-market/neo-classical/neo-liberal economics "government and unions and workers are the problem" horseshit and big surprise life got harder for the average American. Who would have guessed that the right attacking workers would be bad for... workers? Who would have guessed that destroying the unions that protect workers would be bad for... workers? Who would have guessed shifting the tax burden away from shareholders and corporations and on to workers would make things harder for... workers? Who would have guessed that pulling away tax support for universities and pushing the burden on to students would make life hard for... young workers? The right attacked unions and the government because they are the only institutions strong enough to challenge and curb their power. And, somehow, these dumb ass conspiracies continue to attack the interests of workers by pretending the self-made legal problems of a near billionaire who lied, cheated, and abused his workers, his family, and the American public are somehow the problems of the workers. :o
The right taught us to hate workers, unions, worker protections, a social safety net, and government (except the police, the key group that has the right to use actual physical force against US citizens). The right has only ever cared about creating a world where the businesses, shareholders, and landlords are making lots of money. They promised us if the rich get richer and we voluntarily give up our power via unions/government, it'll somehow make our lives better. ::)
And now that life has gotten harder for decades, their solution is to double down on these stupid ass ideas. It is not that the left's protection of social security, medicare/medicaid, food stamps, unions, environmental regulations, etc. have provided a minimal defense from this continual attack, it is because of these minimal government protections that the distribution of rewards from our economic growth primarily goes to those at the top. If we only further attacked labor and the safety net, the better world we've been promised will magically appear. If we further weaken labor, labor will get a bigger piece of our economy's rewards. ::)
@Lenny Fatface, what do you mean by the economy? The economy has never been about individuals. GDP is up, unemployment is down, industrial production is at pre-pandemic levels, consumer spending is up, and so on. Most of the indicators that the economy is humming along are there. If people are happy; if people have time for their friends, hobbies, and family; if people can pay back their student loans; if people can afford a new home; etc. all have nothing to do with the economy. The right taught us in the late 70s and early 80s, the economy will go upwards and the stock market will continue to grow not inspite of inequality or individuals struggling, but because of inequality and struggle. The right saw that giving more to those on top and making life harder for the average person would increase their wealth and increases the economy.
Finally, we aren't at an end of times, aside from obvious environmental issues, but we approaching a bad situation as YouTube, TikTok, AM radio, and QAnon nuts peddle stupid right wing answers while demonizing those who are actually trying to help. We are approaching a bad moment, because people like Alex Jones can teach Americans to hate the parents of children who die in school shootings, because Steve Bannon wants to see things crumble so he can gain power, and because Americans will believe the stupidest fucking half-baked ideas because it makes them feel smarter than everyone around them, despite not doing the hard work required to actually gain knowledge.
USA GDP
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USA Inequality
(https://i.ibb.co/CbM8QGv/Screen-Shot-2024-06-03-at-7-41-53-PM.png)
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Nothing like a dude talking about "waves of immigrants" and "brainwashed progressives" with a 1K positive rep count to tell me I'm going in the correct direction with mine.
Stoked to see an invisible committee link on here. We should've had a SLAP game of skate in St Imier last summer :) That being said I don't share the self-serving doomsaying that's almost a mandatory trope in anarchist circles by now. We been predicting that shit for a little too long and too often, fellow directactioners :)
I think a lot of younger people's sense of impending doom rightfully comes from the climate crisis. Jem Bendell's "Deep Adaption", although having had a few holes poked into its method, remains chillingly and painfully on point. And take, on top of that, crazed gun-nuts with varying degrees of fascist agendas - what's not to fear?!
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Nothing like a dude talking about "waves of immigrants" and "brainwashed progressives" with a 1K positive rep count to tell me I'm going in the correct direction with mine.
Sneaky brought a lot of light hearted laughs and silliness for quite some time, and there has been a shift in the tone of his posts over the past little bit.
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I disagree.
Why is everyone in the land of the free scared shitless?
If I had to guess, it would be due to the economy clearly being much worse than what the media and government are claiming. This is the first time I remember the disparity between truth and message being THIS blatant.
I would say living in America is a sketchy ass system...that just goes down (badly) for a lot of working class people. Lived in the bay area through the 94 recession, which most dont talk about as often as dot.com or subprime, but the shocks to system have started to become more frequent Covid being the most recent, its just a pattern that has and obvious bad ending if you arent in the 1%.
This has been one of my favorite leftist economists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBLJ7UAqXSo
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Just imagine skating the ruins of bust spots. It will be like Covid without cops or security guards.
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Nothing like a dude talking about "waves of immigrants" and "brainwashed progressives" with a 1K positive rep count to tell me I'm going in the correct direction with mine.
Sneaky brought a lot of light hearted laughs and silliness for quite some time, and there has been a shift in the tone of his posts over the past little bit.
Yeah, old Sneaky was the best…
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Collapse (in almost every way) is happening now, probably has for a long time. We've fucked everything and the pile of shit gets bigger each day: business as usual.
It definitely has been happening for a long time, we now just have the means to not let the media narrative of EVERYTHING IS FINE PLEASE DO NOT NOTICE HOW DIFFERENTLY BAD THE WORLD IS NOW COMPARED TO PAST DECADES YOU’VE BEEN ALIVE be sole dictator of public opinion. And that’s a good thing, because you can’t get your car off the train tracks if you have less than a single second to move before impact.
The ecological collapse is what concerns me most and will decide our fate. The moment we thought we were separate and/or above nature ruined us. Like Carlin said, we gave everything up for money, decided to compete against rather than cooperate with, we squandered literally everything, etc, etc. We as a species deserve what's coming.
I have struggled for a long time accepting this. I thought I could shut it off but it's come straight back in the last few years. I move between depression and acceptance quite often.
Today is the best it gets.
I get it, my gripe is that Western nations set the bar for change, and yet, turn the other cheek when non-Western nations keep doing things their own way and fucking things up. China and India pretty much take up the top 2 spots year after year for world’s worst polluters, then, instead of anyone else calling them out and holding them accountable, Western nations self-flagellate and say they themselves are the biggest problem and are needing to do more. I can’t tolerate the double-standards of that shit, hold the biggest offenders accountable, don’t cover for them.
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The fall of empires or society rarely happened in a Big Bang, it was a gradual downfall.
But if our technology fails (power, internet, health care, knowledge, states etc.) it might go down pretty fast this time. At least the „high culture“. Humans will be ok, just forget about comfort and safety. We live in a bubble. Real life never was about selfies and fast food. Life is about the struggle to survive (eat instead of being eaten)
Yeah blame china and India ;D biggest polluters? Yeah but also biggest population. Per capital im pretty sure we westerners are to blame. Also we invented that wasteful decadence we call industrialization, globalization and capitalism/consumerism.
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Just imagine skating the ruins of bust spots. It will be like Covid without cops or security guards.
Bold of you to assume you'll have that luxury
My take is doom is inevitable. The more pressing aspect is; what does "doom" look like?
In addition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwSRqaZGsPw&ab_channel=AceRecords
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@ungzilla has it right. We pushed inequality down in the USA and then Reagan, Von Hayek, Friedman, and Ayn Rand brought in their free-market/neo-classical/neo-liberal economics "government and unions and workers are the problem" horseshit and big surprise life got harder for the average American. Who would have guessed that the right attacking workers would be bad for... workers? Who would have guessed that destroying the unions that protect workers would be bad for... workers? Who would have guessed shifting the tax burden away from shareholders and corporations and on to workers would make things harder for... workers? Who would have guessed that pulling away tax support for universities and pushing the burden on to students would make life hard for... young workers? The right attacked unions and the government because they are the only institutions strong enough to challenge and curb their power. And, somehow, these dumb ass conspiracies continue to attack the interests of workers by pretending the self-made legal problems of a near billionaire who lied, cheated, and abused his workers, his family, and the American public are somehow the problems of the workers. :o
The right taught us to hate workers, unions, worker protections, a social safety net, and government (except the police, the key group that has the right to use actual physical force against US citizens). The right has only ever cared about creating a world where the businesses, shareholders, and landlords are making lots of money. They promised us if the rich get richer and we voluntarily give up our power via unions/government, it'll somehow make our lives better. ::)
And now that life has gotten harder for decades, their solution is to double down on these stupid ass ideas. It is not that the left's protection of social security, medicare/medicaid, food stamps, unions, environmental regulations, etc. have provided a minimal defense from this continual attack, it is because of these minimal government protections that the distribution of rewards from our economic growth primarily goes to those at the top. If we only further attacked labor and the safety net, the better world we've been promised will magically appear. If we further weaken labor, labor will get a bigger piece of our economy's rewards. ::)
@Lenny Fatface, what do you mean by the economy? The economy has never been about individuals. GDP is up, unemployment is down, industrial production is at pre-pandemic levels, consumer spending is up, and so on. Most of the indicators that the economy is humming along are there. If people are happy; if people have time for their friends, hobbies, and family; if people can pay back their student loans; if people can afford a new home; etc. all have nothing to do with the economy. The right taught us in the late 70s and early 80s, the economy will go upwards and the stock market will continue to grow not inspite of inequality or individuals struggling, but because of inequality and struggle. The right saw that giving more to those on top and making life harder for the average person would increase their wealth and increases the economy.
Finally, we aren't at an end of times, aside from obvious environmental issues, but we approaching a bad situation as YouTube, TikTok, AM radio, and QAnon nuts peddle stupid right wing answers while demonizing those who are actually trying to help. We are approaching a bad moment, because people like Alex Jones can teach Americans to hate the parents of children who die in school shootings, because Steve Bannon wants to see things crumble so he can gain power, and because Americans will believe the stupidest fucking half-baked ideas because it makes them feel smarter than everyone around them, despite not doing the hard work required to actually gain knowledge.
USA GDP
(https://i.ibb.co/gJcqL95/Screen-Shot-2024-06-03-at-8-08-26-PM.png)
USA Inequality
(https://i.ibb.co/CbM8QGv/Screen-Shot-2024-06-03-at-7-41-53-PM.png)
Much respect for this great explanation. I agree with you 100 percent. It is a damn shame this position has basically no political representation today (aside from maybe a few marginalized Dems).
I want to add two things:
Social welfare is not just support for vulnerable people. Unions fought for a “safety net“, because indirectly working people profit as well. It is much easier to tell your boss to fuck off or to demand better working conditions if the loss of that job doesn’t put you and your family on the street. It gives working people more power, because they are less dependent on their employer.
Like you mentioned this apocalyptic position that America, maybe even all of the west is doomed and will soon fall apart is actually a desire for it to happen (flamed by online fascism and the far right). A self fulfilling prophecy. The right feeds on fear. Fear of immigrants, fear of technology, of the globalists (it usually means “the Jews“) which it turns into hatred. Those are deflections. They turn: “I want better wages and better living conditions“ into “why do these immigrants get all this support?“. A real coward’s position.
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Fully agree here, @TheLurper & @S.
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the answers you seek will most likely fall flat @SneakySecrets
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The world is ending just as I finally learnt to 360 flip? That'd be fucking right....
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The world is ending just as I finally learnt to 360 flip? That'd be fucking right....
hey congrats!
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The world is ending just as I finally learnt to 360 flip? That'd be fucking right....
hey congrats!
Thanks dude!
They aren't pretty, but I'm 41 and thought I wouldn't ever be able to do the damn things so I'm just stoked to be shitting them out.
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always funny to see American Whites start pretending society is gonna turn into 28 days later because lil cesars hot and ready went up a dollar
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The world is ending just as I finally learnt to 360 flip? That'd be fucking right....
hey congrats!
Thanks dude!
They aren't pretty, but I'm 41 and thought I wouldn't ever be able to do the damn things so I'm just stoked to be shitting them out.
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Awesome! I’m 42…. Maybe I should try… but probably not.
That’s sick though! 360 flips are hard.
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Just imagine skating the ruins of bust spots. It will be like Covid without cops or security guards.
My take is doom is inevitable. The more pressing aspect is; what does "doom" look like?
It will probably look like Children of Men. A disillusioned clerk cautiously cradles the last set of non-flatspotted wheels out of a shot up building while warring factions temporarily cease fire and stare in awe.
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I can tell you that I think the WEF is whack as hell
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Just imagine skating the ruins of bust spots. It will be like Covid without cops or security guards.
My take is doom is inevitable. The more pressing aspect is; what does "doom" look like?
It will probably look like Children of Men. A disillusioned clerk cautiously cradles the last set of non-flatspotted wheels out of a shot up building while warring factions temporarily cease fire and stare in awe.
Are they Bones or Spitfire?
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Just imagine skating the ruins of bust spots. It will be like Covid without cops or security guards.
My take is doom is inevitable. The more pressing aspect is; what does "doom" look like?
It will probably look like Children of Men. A disillusioned clerk cautiously cradles the last set of non-flatspotted wheels out of a shot up building while warring factions temporarily cease fire and stare in awe.
OJ's
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pros
- finally, a collapse thread on slap
cons
- it's full of left/right dichotomy bs
- do yourselves a favour and take a step back from political framing and reflect on the biophysical realities of a species hellbent on infinite exponential growth on a finite planet
I'm gonna post just one vid here for anyone interested in the big picture
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xr9rIQxwj4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xr9rIQxwj4)
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You got some time homie not much but April 13, 2029 we getting hit by an asteroid they call the sun eater. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis
But the real thing to do is just enjoy the moments as they happens. What’s going down with the people right now is late stage capitalism and it’s pretty obvious that the experiment is over. It dosnt work. A couple of people rise to the top mostly from generational accumulated wealth and resources and the rest are pushed down. There will be a class war. I believe Communism is the way out. Watch fucking Star Trek my Gs. That’s future thinking. Being a communist is like being a refuge from the future. That’s the utopia. Working together as one.
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And if you really worried about it all I say read the Bible. But read it in a revolutionaries perspective. Jesus was for the people. He was the religion of the poor and not the religion of the priest class. I don’t give a fuck about Christianity but the book is a trip and filled with knowledge.