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Skateboarding => Skate Questions => Topic started by: The Huffer on February 24, 2026, 09:03:59 AM
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I know there are a few of us here. It's a funny old feeling being too old to really indulge in the Skateboarding after 30 thread. I know we have an old man thread but that is pretty undefined. So here we go.
Here we are, well over the halfway mark. Colonoscopy hopefully done. Pondering retirement. Looking back on our lives and wondering how quick the downhill will be over the next 20 or 20 years, if we are lucky. By now we've lost family and friends. Yet, we are still fortunate to be skateboarding. For some of us, it's few slappies or slash grinds on Saturday morning. For others, it means still going hard, working on parts and learning tricks.
Anyway, love to spark a chat with the real old cunts that are here. Your personal history with he wooden plank. Health, well-being, philosophies, approaches to life on the board and what you hope skateboarding into old age might look like. Godspeed.
Or we can just degenerate into equipment chat and Andy Amderson worship...
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I'll play. Repost(ed) from the "Old Dude" thread by way of an intro here.
Age: 51
Set Up(s): -8.25/14.38 DLX, IV stamp. 144 Forged. 53/99 Classics. Swiss 6.
-8.75/14.5 BLKLBL. 159 Cast. 53/99 Classic. Ceramics.
-Polarizer (so fun!)
Preferred Terrain: Mini ramps, real street (I *hate* perfectly smooth skate parks. I need a bit of crust.)
Favorite skaters: Random no-names/friends. The Splinter Pit Crew. Stranger. Hensley. Frank G. Miller. Woolley. Tommy G. Busenitz. Grosso. Lucero. Blender. Gus G. Pulman. Tim Olson. Elijah Akerley. TNT. The Kid. Svitak. BA.KU. Dressen. So many....
Music: Too many to list. Post-punk. Punk. Darkwave/Coldwave. Soul/RnB. Big Band/Swing.
Occupation: Security Manager at a large nightclub, and lawyer.
Skill: Diminishing with age. Was sponsored in the 90s by local shop and local board company. Went to Woodward and Acme wanted me to send them video...I never did.
Hometown: Boston
Other stuff: Started skating in 1985, when I was 11-years-old. Non-stop since then. I'm also the clown that runs The Past Participle on IG. The f/s rock in my sig is me at our old DIY.
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Looove a good front rock. Elegant trick. That looks like a well formed transition too…
Age: 50
Setup: street: 9.0 x 17wb. 169s. 56mm conical fulls. OG Swiss. pool: 10 x 17wb. Ace 77 classics. 1/8 risers. 60mm g-bones. Big balls.
Preferred Terrain: bowls, curbs, a nice 3’ quarter pipe dragged into the alley by the coffee shop. Maybe a bank to curb if I can find one in the wild.
Favorite skaters: Salba. Ray Barbee. Ben koppl. Dan drehobl.
Music: Wu, Tribe, De La, Del/Hiero, Black star…
Occupation: cook
Skill: Languages. Soup. Switch pushing. Memorizing poetry.
Dwelling: Out in the woods by the river. Or huddled under a quarter pipe in the rain.
Other stuff: Got murdered on a mini ramp 3 months before my 50th birthday. Still trying to get back out there.
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50 sounds really old and I look pretty old when I dare to look in the mirror but I don't think I've lost much skate ability as I was always hopelessly average anyway. Growing up in Wales/ Bahrain in the 1980s/ 90s meant skating street but desperately wanting to skate vert. it was very validating when street became an actual thing. So i consider 88 to 93 to be the Golden Years. It was amazing to see things change so rapidly. Even without access to the internet or mags, we caught wind of trick development and changes in boards and wheel sizes. I think coming of age in that era has given our generation an appreciation for it all. Also the gap between us and the pros was a lot smaller. What they were doing was super impressive but still seemed achievable and relatable.
Anyway, I'm super thankful to still be on board. So many friends can't skate anymore for a variety or reasons. Pretty tough to find people to skate with these days and funny from going to be the youngest dude on the sesh to the oldest (not always)
I am also glad to wake up pain free. Might be luck or might be lifestyle... not sure but I know it's not forever. Skateboarding means as much to me now as it did in 1985 at age 10. Pretty crazy to find the absolute funnest thing to do on the planet so young and still be so motivated by it 4 decades later.
Anyway, learned a new trick the other day. Noseslide to crooks. Little things like mean so much at this age... I often loose sleep pondering skateboard achievements and ambition....
This could be 50+ support group but maybe there are only a few of us left.... hahah...
Since we are talking front rocks. I'm still buzzing from the one Bryce Kanights snapped of me on my 50th birthday back in May. Apologies for positing this again... but it was a heavy moment...
(https://i.imgur.com/mPr8KIP.jpeg)
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50 sounds really old and I look pretty old when I dare to look in the mirror but I don't think I've lost much skate ability as I was always hopelessly average anyway. Growing up in Wales/ Bahrain in the 1980s/ 90s meant skating street but desperately wanting to skate vert. it was very validating when street became an actual thing. So i consider 88 to 93 to be the Golden Years. It was amazing to see things change so rapidly. Even without access to the internet or mags, we caught wind of trick development and changes in boards and wheel sizes. I think coming of age in that era has given our generation an appreciation for it all. Also the gap between us and the pros was a lot smaller. What they were doing was super impressive but still seemed achievable and relatable.
Anyway, I'm super thankful to still be on board. So many friends can't skate anymore for a variety or reasons. Pretty tough to find people to skate with these days and funny from going to be the youngest dude on the sesh to the oldest (not always)
I am also glad to wake up pain free. Might be luck or might be lifestyle... not sure but I know it's not forever. Skateboarding means as much to me now as it did in 1985 at age 10. Pretty crazy to find the absolute funnest thing to do on the planet so young and still be so motivated by it 4 decades later.
Anyway, learned a new trick the other day. Noseslide to crooks. Little things like mean so much at this age... I often loose sleep pondering skateboard achievements and ambition....
This could be 50+ support group but maybe there are only a few of us left.... hahah...
Since we are talking front rocks. I'm still buzzing from the one Bryce Kanights snapped of me on my 50th birthday back in May. Apologies for positing this again... but it was a heavy moment...
(https://i.imgur.com/mPr8KIP.jpeg)
^ Every. Word. Of. This. Post.
And yeah, I am having •waaaay• more fun skating now than at any point in my life (well, maybe the same as when I was just starting), and also super grateful that I can still skate at all (let a lone at the level I can)…so many others have dropped out for whatever reasons.
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Finally a thread I am too young for. Until next year. ::)
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I'll play. Repost(ed) from the "Old Dude" thread by way of an intro here.
Age: 51
Set Up(s): -8.25/14.38 DLX, IV stamp. 144 Forged. 53/99 Classics. Swiss 6.
-8.75/14.5 BLKLBL. 159 Cast. 53/99 Classic. Ceramics.
-Polarizer (so fun!)
Preferred Terrain: Mini ramps, real street (I *hate* perfectly smooth skate parks. I need a bit of crust.)
Favorite skaters: Random no-names/friends. The Splinter Pit Crew. Stranger. Hensley. Frank G. Miller. Woolley. Tommy G. Busenitz. Grosso. Lucero. Blender. Gus G. Pulman. Tim Olson. Elijah Akerley. TNT. The Kid. Svitak. BA.KU. Dressen. So many....
Music: Too many to list. Post-punk. Punk. Darkwave/Coldwave. Soul/RnB. Big Band/Swing.
Occupation: Security Manager at a large nightclub, and lawyer.
Skill: Diminishing with age. Was sponsored in the 90s by local shop and local board company. Went to Woodward and Acme wanted me to send them video...I never did.
Hometown: Boston
Other stuff: Started skating in 1985, when I was 11-years-old. Non-stop since then. I'm also the clown that runs The Past Participle on IG. The f/s rock in my sig is me at our old DIY.
I've been following the Past Participle on IG for awhile now!
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I've been following the Past Participle on IG for awhile now!
Hah. I thanks. I am shocked that turned into what it has.
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50 sounds really old and I look pretty old when I dare to look in the mirror but I don't think I've lost much skate ability as I was always hopelessly average anyway. Growing up in Wales/ Bahrain in the 1980s/ 90s meant skating street but desperately wanting to skate vert. it was very validating when street became an actual thing. So i consider 88 to 93 to be the Golden Years. It was amazing to see things change so rapidly. Even without access to the internet or mags, we caught wind of trick development and changes in boards and wheel sizes. I think coming of age in that era has given our generation an appreciation for it all. Also the gap between us and the pros was a lot smaller. What they were doing was super impressive but still seemed achievable and relatable.
Anyway, I'm super thankful to still be on board. So many friends can't skate anymore for a variety or reasons. Pretty tough to find people to skate with these days and funny from going to be the youngest dude on the sesh to the oldest (not always)
I am also glad to wake up pain free. Might be luck or might be lifestyle... not sure but I know it's not forever. Skateboarding means as much to me now as it did in 1985 at age 10. Pretty crazy to find the absolute funnest thing to do on the planet so young and still be so motivated by it 4 decades later.
Anyway, learned a new trick the other day. Noseslide to crooks. Little things like mean so much at this age... I often loose sleep pondering skateboard achievements and ambition....
This could be 50+ support group but maybe there are only a few of us left.... hahah...
Since we are talking front rocks. I'm still buzzing from the one Bryce Kanights snapped of me on my 50th birthday back in May. Apologies for positing this again... but it was a heavy moment...
(https://i.imgur.com/mPr8KIP.jpeg)
^ Every. Word. Of. This. Post.
And yeah, I am having •waaaay• more fun skating now than at any point in my life (well, maybe the same as when I was just starting), and also super grateful that I can still skate at all (let a lone at the level I can)…so many others have dropped out for whatever reasons.
Helllll yeah dude. Fully decked and absolutely worth reposting. Maybe one of my comeback goals will be to get a decent frontside rock n roll to put next to these two.
Certain so-called basic tricks are just beautiful to me. Decked front rocks. Boned ollies. A nice long crooked grind or backside tailslide. Blunt to fakie (not easy, but still makes me happy every time I see one.)
I started skating in my 40’s. I would drive home past the local park and think, “that looks like a good time.” Finally one day I decided, “why not try it before you die, old man?” All I wanted to do was be able to drop in and ollie.
The local dudes were so welcoming. I was afraid they’d be like “fuck off poser,” but instead they were stoked that I was trying. To this day, I’ve had plenty of people yell dumb shit at me from cars, but I’ve rarely had another skater vibe me out.
Until this year I never got badly hurt. Just bumps and bruises. People would say, “isn’t that dangerous?” and I would tell them I got hurt more at the gym or playing volleyball.
There’s nothing like riding a stationary bike to make you realize how great skateboarding is. If I can get to where I can just carve around again I’ll be so grateful. Even before, six years in, I was still mostly doing beginner stuff, but so what? Even if I never touch the coping again, I’ll be happy to just push.
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50 sounds really old and I look pretty old when I dare to look in the mirror but I don't think I've lost much skate ability as I was always hopelessly average anyway. Growing up in Wales/ Bahrain in the 1980s/ 90s meant skating street but desperately wanting to skate vert. it was very validating when street became an actual thing. So i consider 88 to 93 to be the Golden Years. It was amazing to see things change so rapidly. Even without access to the internet or mags, we caught wind of trick development and changes in boards and wheel sizes. I think coming of age in that era has given our generation an appreciation for it all. Also the gap between us and the pros was a lot smaller. What they were doing was super impressive but still seemed achievable and relatable.
Anyway, I'm super thankful to still be on board. So many friends can't skate anymore for a variety or reasons. Pretty tough to find people to skate with these days and funny from going to be the youngest dude on the sesh to the oldest (not always)
I am also glad to wake up pain free. Might be luck or might be lifestyle... not sure but I know it's not forever. Skateboarding means as much to me now as it did in 1985 at age 10. Pretty crazy to find the absolute funnest thing to do on the planet so young and still be so motivated by it 4 decades later.
Anyway, learned a new trick the other day. Noseslide to crooks. Little things like mean so much at this age... I often loose sleep pondering skateboard achievements and ambition....
This could be 50+ support group but maybe there are only a few of us left.... hahah...
Since we are talking front rocks. I'm still buzzing from the one Bryce Kanights snapped of me on my 50th birthday back in May. Apologies for positing this again... but it was a heavy moment...
(https://i.imgur.com/mPr8KIP.jpeg)
^ Every. Word. Of. This. Post.
And yeah, I am having •waaaay• more fun skating now than at any point in my life (well, maybe the same as when I was just starting), and also super grateful that I can still skate at all (let a lone at the level I can)…so many others have dropped out for whatever reasons.
Helllll yeah dude. Fully decked and absolutely worth reposting. Maybe one of my comeback goals will be to get a decent frontside rock n roll to put next to these two.
Certain so-called basic tricks are just beautiful to me. Decked front rocks. Boned ollies. A nice long crooked grind or backside tailslide. Blunt to fakie (not easy, but still makes me happy every time I see one.)
I started skating in my 40’s. I would drive home past the local park and think, “that looks like a good time.” Finally one day I decided, “why not try it before you die, old man?” All I wanted to do was be able to drop in and ollie.
The local dudes were so welcoming. I was afraid they’d be like “fuck off poser,” but instead they were stoked that I was trying. To this day, I’ve had plenty of people yell dumb shit at me from cars, but I’ve rarely had another skater vibe me out.
Until this year I never got badly hurt. Just bumps and bruises. People would say, “isn’t that dangerous?” and I would tell them I got hurt more at the gym or playing volleyball.
There’s nothing like riding a stationary bike to make you realize how great skateboarding is. If I can get to where I can just carve around again I’ll be so grateful. Even before, six years in, I was still mostly doing beginner stuff, but so what? Even if I never touch the coping again, I’ll be happy to just push.
Totally nailed that point! I try to tell myself that too, being able to at least push is something to cherish. It will not last forever. I try to remind myself of that if I'm having a bad day or off day skating. Enjoy it now while we can.
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I'll play. Repost(ed) from the "Old Dude" thread by way of an intro here.
Age: 51
Set Up(s): -8.25/14.38 DLX, IV stamp. 144 Forged. 53/99 Classics. Swiss 6.
-8.75/14.5 BLKLBL. 159 Cast. 53/99 Classic. Ceramics.
-Polarizer (so fun!)
Preferred Terrain: Mini ramps, real street (I *hate* perfectly smooth skate parks. I need a bit of crust.)
Favorite skaters: Random no-names/friends. The Splinter Pit Crew. Stranger. Hensley. Frank G. Miller. Woolley. Tommy G. Busenitz. Grosso. Lucero. Blender. Gus G. Pulman. Tim Olson. Elijah Akerley. TNT. The Kid. Svitak. BA.KU. Dressen. So many....
Music: Too many to list. Post-punk. Punk. Darkwave/Coldwave. Soul/RnB. Big Band/Swing.
Occupation: Security Manager at a large nightclub, and lawyer.
Skill: Diminishing with age. Was sponsored in the 90s by local shop and local board company. Went to Woodward and Acme wanted me to send them video...I never did.
Hometown: Boston
Other stuff: Started skating in 1985, when I was 11-years-old. Non-stop since then. I'm also the clown that runs The Past Participle on IG. The f/s rock in my sig is me at our old DIY.
I'm too young to post in this thread...wow that feels amazing to say. I'm too young.
Never thought I'd say that again. (44 years old)
But, I just had to pop in and say I love the Past Participle IG page.
Thank you and keep up the good work!
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But, I just had to pop in and say I love the Past Participle IG page.
Thank you and keep up the good work!
Thanks for the kind words! Much love!
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I'm 46, turning 47 this year. Hopefully see you guys in this thread in a few years.
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@Sedition did you have a blog at some point? I seem to recall it was you(could be very mistaken) that wrote about living in a smaller town riding a Variflex with some bmxers at a quarter pipe.
Stood out since it almost mirrored my start and town.
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I turned 50 this year, started skating around ‘86 or so. Everything was magic.
I was never talented, never cool enough to fit in with the cooler skaters in my small town so never really improved that much.
Which honestly was ok. Now that I’m older there’s a lot of low-hanging fruit I'm learning and still loving it.
FS carve grinds scare the shit out of me, trying to make friends with them.
Living in a mountainous area in Japan with lots of snowboarders, there are a lot of skaters my age snd we have a great community here, with new parks popping up. I helped get one made in my local, which I’m stoked on.
Age: 50
Setup: street: && egg 8.75, Ace Lows, 99a Spits snd Bones 6Balls
Curbs & transition: Black Label Tugboat 9.5 with Ace 77s and IKPs, Bones X 97a and bones bearings.
Also: Anti Hero Horse Pill 10 with Slappy 10s and Bones X97a and bones bearings
Preferred Terrain: bowls, curbs, mini ramp and the local parks with DIY sections
Favorite skaters: Drehobl, Gravette, Koppl, Lucero, Cardiel, Wilkins
Music: 50’s Rockabilly, 60’s Ska and Soul, 70’s Reggae, 80’s and 90’s punk and hip-hop
Occupation: teacher/snowboard instructor
Skill: drawing
Dwelling: a rental house in semi-rural Japan
Other stuff: learned a Scott Steven’s trick on my 50th.
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I turned 50 this year, started skating around ‘86 or so. Everything was magic.
I was never talented, never cool enough to fit in with the cooler skaters in my small town so never really improved that much.
Which honestly was ok. Now that I’m older there’s a lot of low-hanging fruit I'm learning and still loving it.
FS carve grinds scare the shit out of me, trying to make friends with them.
Living in a mountainous area in Japan with lots of snowboarders, there are a lot of skaters my age snd we have a great community here, with new parks popping up. I helped get one made in my local, which I’m stoked on.
Age: 50
Setup: street: && egg 8.75, Ace Lows, 99a Spits snd Bones 6Balls
Curbs & transition: Black Label Tugboat 9.5 with Ace 77s and IKPs, Bones X 97a and bones bearings.
Also: Anti Hero Horse Pill 10 with Slappy 10s and Bones X97a and bones bearings
Preferred Terrain: bowls, curbs, mini ramp and the local parks with DIY sections
Favorite skaters: Drehobl, Gravette, Koppl, Lucero, Cardiel, Wilkins
Music: 50’s Rockabilly, 60’s Ska and Soul, 70’s Reggae, 80’s and 90’s punk and hip-hop
Occupation: teacher/snowboard instructor
Skill: drawing
Dwelling: a rental house in semi-rural Japan
Other stuff: learned a Scott Steven’s trick on my 50th.
Dang that sounds amazing. I have so many questions…
How is street skating in Japan? How is just living in Japan? How long did it take to feel comfortable with the language? (Or maybe you always lived there and are a native speaker, I don’t know)
I guess I’m curious about how a person goes about moving to, and living/working in, another country. I’ve been thinking about it for a while.
…or if you want we can just talk about frontside carve grinds. I feel like I give it too much oomph and almost revert around to switch (getting wrecked in the process)
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Snowboarding in Japan looks dreamy. I love the idea and look of bindingness snowboarding in powder.
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@Sedition did you have a blog at some point? I seem to recall it was you(could be very mistaken) that wrote about living in a smaller town riding a Variflex with some bmxers at a quarter pipe.
Stood out since it almost mirrored my start and town.
I've had, and contributed to, various blogs over the years...def rode with some BMXers in the early years, but never had a Variflex. Sounds like might be ParkBlockDiaries (Kyle's blog)???
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@Sedition did you have a blog at some point? I seem to recall it was you(could be very mistaken) that wrote about living in a smaller town riding a Variflex with some bmxers at a quarter pipe.
Stood out since it almost mirrored my start and town.
I've had, and contributed to, various blogs over the years...def rode with some BMXers in the early years, but never had a Variflex. Sounds like might be ParkBlockDiaries (Kyle's blog)???
Thanks. I’ll have to check that.
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@Sedition Thanks! That was it. Cannot repeat karma action aka I owe you one.
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*** I had just started typing and maybe this is not quite the place for it, but I thought I would just post it anyway ***
So much history, so much life lived, but maybe so much still to do for some people...
I don't know much about looking forward - every day is just another day to keep on going, sometimes better than yesterday, sometimes not, but any which way, I do know that without a skateboard, things would have been very different.
Some people I know have said in the past if it wasn't for skateboarding, they would be dead or in jail, with particular mention of me, usually in terms of keeping them rolling in whatever capacity I had been able to help, which is not to say I am out there being a skateboard saint, far from it, but I have been fortunate enough to be able to help a lot of people with skateboards over the years, running a lot of events for local Councils, youth based groups or agencies, church groups or pretty much anyone who wanted something skateboarding, who didn't have a big enough budget to get in "the professionals", although I even worked for "the professionals" on and off for a number of years too, usually as the instructor to go with their pro demos and whatever else was going on at that event.
Still being able to ride a skateboard is not something I take for granted either, but I would put it down to never going too hard or being too daring, so although I still skated a lot when younger, had injuries - broken arm when first starting back in the mid 80s, broken ankles at different times from 1988 through 1990, or a few other smaller breaks throughout the years since then, I am thankful I never had anything that took me out completely.
Most others I skated with who went way harder, got way better and ultimately skated themselves into early retirement due to various injuries, more often than not needing knee reconstructions, having back problems, some with other breaks or issues that just prevented them still rolling as much as they wanted, but it is just one of those things with this thing we love to do.
I still skate, still get in on a session and still enjoy seeing people I know being able to learn new tricks or get a good line or whatever else, so that part will never get old for me, along with getting my hands on skateboards and skateboard parts, testing different things, modifying setups to make them work in different ways, talking about skateboard stuff, in particular, on Slap skateboard forum and in person in the shop or at skateparks, so in that way, I have never lost the love of it either.
Some people who have worked in the skate industry have become jaded, negative, almost ended up hating skateboarding because of what they had to do, which is unfortunate for them, but everyone is on their own journey, so it is also up to them to find their way back to it, if or when they can, so I am quite thankful I have never really felt like this towards skateboarding either, as is often the way for older crew.
If we can still wake up each day, still be stoked on skateboarding, still want to look at a new video, or try a new product, or pass by a spot and still think of something we might like to do or see done on it, then we can still live as full a life as we are able, even if we cannot skate for whatever reason at any given time or day.
I think the world would be a lesser place without a skateboard, a group of friends and a place to roll, or at least my world most certainly would be.
* Sorry this might be a bit longer than I wanted, but being 51 and still finding as much enjoyment from skateboarding now as I ever have, I just let it all out and maybe said too much or said not enough (for an over 50s skate group) but I will just leave it as is.
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@Sedition Thanks! That was it. Cannot repeat karma action aka I owe you one.
Kyle is a great writer.
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*** I had just started typing and maybe this is not quite the place for it, but I thought I would just post it anyway ***
So much history, so much life lived, but maybe so much still to do for some people...
I don't know much about looking forward - every day is just another day to keep on going, sometimes better than yesterday, sometimes not, but any which way, I do know that without a skateboard, things would have been very different.
Some people I know have said in the past if it wasn't for skateboarding, they would be dead or in jail, with particular mention of me, usually in terms of keeping them rolling in whatever capacity I had been able to help, which is not to say I am out there being a skateboard saint, far from it, but I have been fortunate enough to be able to help a lot of people with skateboards over the years, running a lot of events for local Councils, youth based groups or agencies, church groups or pretty much anyone who wanted something skateboarding, who didn't have a big enough budget to get in "the professionals", although I even worked for "the professionals" on and off for a number of years too, usually as the instructor to go with their pro demos and whatever else was going on at that event.
Still being able to ride a skateboard is not something I take for granted either, but I would put it down to never going too hard or being too daring, so although I still skated a lot when younger, had injuries - broken arm when first starting back in the mid 80s, broken ankles at different times from 1988 through 1990, or a few other smaller breaks throughout the years since then, I am thankful I never had anything that took me out completely.
Most others I skated with who went way harder, got way better and ultimately skated themselves into early retirement due to various injuries, more often than not needing knee reconstructions, having back problems, some with other breaks or issues that just prevented them still rolling as much as they wanted, but it is just one of those things with this thing we love to do.
I still skate, still get in on a session and still enjoy seeing people I know being able to learn new tricks or get a good line or whatever else, so that part will never get old for me, along with getting my hands on skateboards and skateboard parts, testing different things, modifying setups to make them work in different ways, talking about skateboard stuff, in particular, on Slap skateboard forum and in person in the shop or at skateparks, so in that way, I have never lost the love of it either.
Some people who have worked in the skate industry have become jaded, negative, almost ended up hating skateboarding because of what they had to do, which is unfortunate for them, but everyone is on their own journey, so it is also up to them to find their way back to it, if or when they can, so I am quite thankful I have never really felt like this towards skateboarding either, as is often the way for older crew.
If we can still wake up each day, still be stoked on skateboarding, still want to look at a new video, or try a new product, or pass by a spot and still think of something we might like to do or see done on it, then we can still live as full a life as we are able, even if we cannot skate for whatever reason at any given time or day.
I think the world would be a lesser place without a skateboard, a group of friends and a place to roll, or at least my world most certainly would be.
* Sorry this might be a bit longer than I wanted, but being 51 and still finding as much enjoyment from skateboarding now as I ever have, I just let it all out and maybe said too much or said not enough (for an over 50s skate group) but I will just leave it as is.
It’s 4:21am. I got home from work just a bit ago, and I’m about to go to bed, but I had to respond to this first…I would say you erred on “not enough.” This was a great read…I’ll respond more tomorrow when home from skating. For now, I salute.
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I turned 50 this year, started skating around ‘86 or so. Everything was magic.
I was never talented, never cool enough to fit in with the cooler skaters in my small town so never really improved that much.
Which honestly was ok. Now that I’m older there’s a lot of low-hanging fruit I'm learning and still loving it.
FS carve grinds scare the shit out of me, trying to make friends with them.
Living in a mountainous area in Japan with lots of snowboarders, there are a lot of skaters my age snd we have a great community here, with new parks popping up. I helped get one made in my local, which I’m stoked on.
Age: 50
Setup: street: && egg 8.75, Ace Lows, 99a Spits snd Bones 6Balls
Curbs & transition: Black Label Tugboat 9.5 with Ace 77s and IKPs, Bones X 97a and bones bearings.
Also: Anti Hero Horse Pill 10 with Slappy 10s and Bones X97a and bones bearings
Preferred Terrain: bowls, curbs, mini ramp and the local parks with DIY sections
Favorite skaters: Drehobl, Gravette, Koppl, Lucero, Cardiel, Wilkins
Music: 50’s Rockabilly, 60’s Ska and Soul, 70’s Reggae, 80’s and 90’s punk and hip-hop
Occupation: teacher/snowboard instructor
Skill: drawing
Dwelling: a rental house in semi-rural Japan
Other stuff: learned a Scott Steven’s trick on my 50th.
Dang that sounds amazing. I have so many questions…
How is street skating in Japan? How is just living in Japan? How long did it take to feel comfortable with the language? (Or maybe you always lived there and are a native speaker, I don’t know)
I guess I’m curious about how a person goes about moving to, and living/working in, another country. I’ve been thinking about it for a while.
…or if you want we can just talk about frontside carve grinds. I feel like I give it too much oomph and almost revert around to switch (getting wrecked in the process)
Street skating… Japan has a very different relationship with streets that we do. Things are generally much more respectful of shared and private areas, so generally the idea of graffiti and skating in public and private property is pretty frowned upon, especially when you get out of the big cities. Street skating is totally possible, but it can’t be done in an arrogant, often confrontational way like in North America. It’s more subtle.
So skating tends to be more stealth, at low-traffic times. Plus, it’s so fucking hot and humid during the summer it’s almost impossible to skate during the day anyways.
There are a lot of unique spots, but as a foreign resident (and with the massive uptick in racism and xenophobia) i don’t want to give anyone a reason to hate foreigners more than they already do. I stick to the parks, which here in Nagano are pretty numerous compared to other rural prefectures. Plus we have a decent DIY scene.
Living here is not easy unless you either live in a bubble of foreigners, have a Japanese partner to take care of the legal stuff, or you speak really good Japanese.
There is a logic (and a lot of the time kinda illogic) to the way the society works, and no-one teaches you, it just takes time to understand the smaller societal rules. The language is the same. I learned the fundamentals in university back in Canada, which helped me learning it by myself later on. But it’s not easy, especially reading and writing. It took me about 3 or 4 years, maybe more until i felt kinda comfortable conversing.
But the thing is, I never feel completely comfortable here, except in very specific places. No matter how much i conform, fit in, learn the language, i will always be treated differently. Although in some ways its much better than when i first arrived in the 90s, its looking like its doing to get worse very soon, as politicians here are following Trump’s lead in demonizing foreigners.
I cam here as someone who was a big nerd about Japanese traditional culture. And totally idealized the place. The first few years were great, but when i came back after i hiatus, i hated a lot of it,. The inflexibility, the close-mindedness, the total lack of awareness about political and environmental issues. Japan is at least 30 years behind the rest of the world on a lot of societal issues.
But it’s like anywhere. It’s got good stuff (which its very good at showing) and bad stuff (which its also good at hiding).
But I feel I’m part of the skate and snowboard community in my area, and there are a lot of people my age which makes it a lot more comfortable and relatable.
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Street skating… Japan has a very different relationship with streets that we do. Things are generally much more respectful of shared and private areas, so generally the idea of graffiti and skating in public and private property is pretty frowned upon, especially when you get out of the big cities. Street skating is totally possible, but it can’t be done in an arrogant, often confrontational way like in North America. It’s more subtle.
I appreciate this nuanced (dare I say subtle) response.
I’ve never been too bold in terms of barging spots… but there was also a point in my late 40s when I realized that if a confrontation happened, I was too old and busted to fight, and too slow to run away. A low key approach and diplomacy were my only options.
There are a lot of unique spots, but as a foreign resident (and with the massive uptick in racism and xenophobia) i don’t want to give anyone a reason to hate foreigners more than they already do. I stick to the parks, which here in Nagano are pretty numerous compared to other rural prefectures. Plus we have a decent DIY scene.
Living in the rural midwest US, I love a little country town that will build a decent skatepark…or at least not immediately shut down a DIY. Des Moines, Iowa built a huge park in 2023, and it’s as if the skate mothership landed in the middle of a cornfield…but there are also way too many places where a couple of prefab metal quarter pipes and a bent-ass flat bar are all there is.
Living here is not easy unless you either live in a bubble of foreigners, have a Japanese partner to take care of the legal stuff, or you speak really good Japanese.
There is a logic (and a lot of the time kinda illogic) to the way the society works, and no-one teaches you, it just takes time to understand the smaller societal rules. The language is the same. I learned the fundamentals in university back in Canada, which helped me learning it by myself later on. But it’s not easy, especially reading and writing. It took me about 3 or 4 years, maybe more until i felt kinda comfortable conversing.
But the thing is, I never feel completely comfortable here, except in very specific places. No matter how much i conform, fit in, learn the language, i will always be treated differently. Although in some ways its much better than when i first arrived in the 90s, its looking like its doing to get worse very soon, as politicians here are following Trump’s lead in demonizing foreigners.
I cam here as someone who was a big nerd about Japanese traditional culture. And totally idealized the place. The first few years were great, but when i came back after i hiatus, i hated a lot of it,. The inflexibility, the close-mindedness, the total lack of awareness about political and environmental issues. Japan is at least 30 years behind the rest of the world on a lot of societal issues.
But it’s like anywhere. It’s got good stuff (which its very good at showing) and bad stuff (which its also good at hiding).
It’s fucked up that other countries are modeling their behavior after DT…and that Canadian expats, of all people, would suffer for it.
Easily once a week I think, “I wonder if I could move to (x) foreign country, where maybe democratic institutions are stronger and 49%of the population aren’t such dicks.”
But I also remember studying abroad and being lonely as fuck for six months.
…and then coming “home” and feeling the same way. All the impenetrable social groups and opaque, stylized rituals. Right here in my backyard.
But I feel I’m part of the skate and snowboard community in my area, and there are a lot of people my age which makes it a lot more comfortable and relatable.
This right here, though.
Funny how often we end up typing some variation of, “man, life’s fucked up, people are fucked up, but isn’t skateboarding awesome?”
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I’m half Japanese but so far removed from Japan. My Japanese dad hasn’t even been there. It’s pretty regular here where I meet Japanese skaters and you can see how much they love the day to day freedoms we have here. Great place to visit but seems pretty suffocating. I believe though they can have really rich and supportive scenes where here: I find is pretty transient and people take things for granted. I think if I lived there I’d hang onto it for dear life but feel safe that I’m in a country where subcultures thrive.
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It’s weird how “just do what you like, and let other people do their thing” is such a ten thousand year struggle for humans.
Ok, Dept. of Pithy Aphorisms is closed for the season, I promise.
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Just gonna put this here for your consideration (from the Parking Block Diaries)
I have always been a very tactile skater. I do tricks for the sensation they give me, the experience. That's why I can do the same tricks over and over again and never get tired of them. That's why I get irate when I can't get some trick i've pulled a thousand times. Its not perfectionism or competitive drive, I simply fiend for the sensations my tricks give me and I go crazy when I can't experience them.
When I look at a clip of something that felt pure and powerful and perfect when I did it, yet looks stiff and forced when I watch it, it always triggers a poisonous dilemma in my brain, a dilemma that cuts to the soul of skating.
Skating has a dual nature: it is a full sensory experience on one hand, and a visual commodity we can only consume by watching on the other. When it comes to the actual experience of skating, does it really matter what something looks like? Is perfection of style and form worth chasing after for reasons other than the visual consumption of your personal skating by others? Does "bad style" really matter to anyone but those watching? And aren't we supposed to not give a shit about what anyone thinks
Or, to bring it back to that personal dilemma: should you change the way you do something that feels good just so it looks better?
This is interesting to me as an older skater. On the rare occasion when I film myself, I’m never stoked on the result. Everything looks slow and stiff. I look like listening to your own voicemail recording sounds.
But when I’m on the board, it feels amazing. I feel rad.
Thoughts?
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Over 50
Started skating again after a very long time away.
My issue is remembering how good I was when I stopped, not how bad I was when I started
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Was in my mid 20s when I started lurking Slap and felt like I was older than most posters, now I'm 52 and am still older if not one of the oldest.
Now on a serious weight loss regimen to get a few more good years of skating (broke some ribs and had 3 avulsion writ fractures in the past 2 years).
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Just gonna put this here for your consideration (from the Parking Block Diaries)
I have always been a very tactile skater. I do tricks for the sensation they give me, the experience. That's why I can do the same tricks over and over again and never get tired of them. That's why I get irate when I can't get some trick i've pulled a thousand times. Its not perfectionism or competitive drive, I simply fiend for the sensations my tricks give me and I go crazy when I can't experience them.
When I look at a clip of something that felt pure and powerful and perfect when I did it, yet looks stiff and forced when I watch it, it always triggers a poisonous dilemma in my brain, a dilemma that cuts to the soul of skating.
Skating has a dual nature: it is a full sensory experience on one hand, and a visual commodity we can only consume by watching on the other. When it comes to the actual experience of skating, does it really matter what something looks like? Is perfection of style and form worth chasing after for reasons other than the visual consumption of your personal skating by others? Does "bad style" really matter to anyone but those watching? And aren't we supposed to not give a shit about what anyone thinks
Or, to bring it back to that personal dilemma: should you change the way you do something that feels good just so it looks better?
This is interesting to me as an older skater. On the rare occasion when I film myself, I’m never stoked on the result. Everything looks slow and stiff. I look like listening to your own voicemail recording sounds.
But when I’m on the board, it feels amazing. I feel rad.
Thoughts?
This is not unique. The actor Adam Driver hates to see / watch any of his performances. He even once walked out of an interview with Terry Gross (of "Fresh Air") because they played a clip of him. That said, Kyle does touch on an interesting subject.
I'll ask this: Who do you skate for? Yourself, or other people? If you are skating for yourself, then you already know where "truth" and "happiness" are to be found (hint: it never involves a recording of yourself). If you are skating for other people, well, good luck with that.
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Over 50
Started skating again after a very long time away.
My issue is remembering how good I was when I stopped, not how bad I was when I started
Base your sessions on where you are today, not where you were 30 years ago.
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I was unreasonably anti clip after my friends quit skating. Now having not skated for 7 months and questions of when I'll be able to again, I wish I filmed myself routinely. Now I just have one clip a random guy had to film after seeing me do something. Like 3 years ago, really started to turn a corner around this time.
I purely skate for feeling but wish I had more memories. Let go of the ego is the advice I've given myself
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Thar's interesting. I was 'anti-clip' most of my skate life. I never had the patience to film. didn't want to waste people's time. I had some clips in small scene videos but only because someone happened to capture something I was doing in the background when the rest of the crew were taking it seriously. I was alway s little too self-conscious and struggled with the ego side of things.
Self-filming with a kook cam (phone, fisheye and stand) changed that and I really think it helped me begin to progress again. It was a challenge, motivation and a way to see where I was going wrong. Super fun actually. I haven't filmed much since I my 50th birthday part last May and perhaps not coincidently, I haven't done anything new in the last ten months hahaha....
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There’s this one clip I got last spring, alone, at the skatepark. I think I had my phone leaning against my half gallon water jug as a « tripod. » My first (and, so far, only) roll-in to « big » transition. (I’d practiced a few on a 2’ quarter; this was about 4’.)
When I got the make, I was so hyped. I made a barking noise. I fist pumped at the empty park. Yes!
When I looked at the clip, all I saw were the flaws. Shoulda positioned the phone to get more of the roll away. Looked pretty slow and wobbly going over the coping. And that little yelp, that fist pump? Cringe.
Then I got hurt before I could get another one. It was a thing I did once, not a thing I really had in my bag. Now I looked at the clip differently. Wistfully. The imperfections were still there, but mostly I felt the stoke of that moment again. The first one. Hopefully not the last?
It captured a moment, which I guess is the whole point. Warts and all, a thing was done.
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I have my tricks that I've essentially told myself as long as I can do them I'll still skate, it's sort of my practice like yoga where I have maybe 10 tricks. There's a bunch too that I'll set up the dad cam and film them just because I always think that's the last time I'll ever do one and I'm at peace with it.
I was never good enough to really film anything but through instagram and having a phone, it's not bad capturing my scrubby moves....just to see them pass by on stories like they should. People that I don't see often see I'm still skating and I get to see their clips too. It's one of the benefits I think of social media.
Can't say any of my clips are really any good but from the people I've met and connected with, I've realized it's not really about that.
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Filming myself skating has helped me tremendously in two major ways: making my technique better and improving my style.
While style is really a concept that ultimately cannot be defined objectively, there are recognizable universal aspects of how a person carries their body while skating that just look "good". It's not necessarily about wanting to look "good" in the eyes of others. It's about fine-tuning one's own artistic and personal expression, which is a major aspect of the art of skateboarding.
Improving one's style and not caring about what others think are not mutually exclusive. Everyone has an ego, and there's nothing wrong with keeping the ego happy in a healthy way. I mean, good style can inspire others, and isn't inspiring others a rewarding aspect of skating?
Plus, circling back to filming oneself – doesn't everyone want to look good in their own eyes?
Ultimately we're just all dancing in the void for ourselves and for each other, so why not try to making the dance all the more beautiful for the sole reason of nothing at all?
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Just gonna put this here for your consideration (from the Parking Block Diaries)
I have always been a very tactile skater. I do tricks for the sensation they give me, the experience. That's why I can do the same tricks over and over again and never get tired of them. That's why I get irate when I can't get some trick i've pulled a thousand times. Its not perfectionism or competitive drive, I simply fiend for the sensations my tricks give me and I go crazy when I can't experience them.
When I look at a clip of something that felt pure and powerful and perfect when I did it, yet looks stiff and forced when I watch it, it always triggers a poisonous dilemma in my brain, a dilemma that cuts to the soul of skating.
Skating has a dual nature: it is a full sensory experience on one hand, and a visual commodity we can only consume by watching on the other. When it comes to the actual experience of skating, does it really matter what something looks like? Is perfection of style and form worth chasing after for reasons other than the visual consumption of your personal skating by others? Does "bad style" really matter to anyone but those watching? And aren't we supposed to not give a shit about what anyone thinks
Or, to bring it back to that personal dilemma: should you change the way you do something that feels good just so it looks better?
This is interesting to me as an older skater. On the rare occasion when I film myself, I’m never stoked on the result. Everything looks slow and stiff. I look like listening to your own voicemail recording sounds.
But when I’m on the board, it feels amazing. I feel rad.
Thoughts?
I relate to all of this.
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Just gonna put this here for your consideration (from the Parking Block Diaries)
I have always been a very tactile skater. I do tricks for the sensation they give me, the experience. That's why I can do the same tricks over and over again and never get tired of them. That's why I get irate when I can't get some trick i've pulled a thousand times. Its not perfectionism or competitive drive, I simply fiend for the sensations my tricks give me and I go crazy when I can't experience them.
When I look at a clip of something that felt pure and powerful and perfect when I did it, yet looks stiff and forced when I watch it, it always triggers a poisonous dilemma in my brain, a dilemma that cuts to the soul of skating.
Skating has a dual nature: it is a full sensory experience on one hand, and a visual commodity we can only consume by watching on the other. When it comes to the actual experience of skating, does it really matter what something looks like? Is perfection of style and form worth chasing after for reasons other than the visual consumption of your personal skating by others? Does "bad style" really matter to anyone but those watching? And aren't we supposed to not give a shit about what anyone thinks
Or, to bring it back to that personal dilemma: should you change the way you do something that feels good just so it looks better?
This is interesting to me as an older skater. On the rare occasion when I film myself, I’m never stoked on the result. Everything looks slow and stiff. I look like listening to your own voicemail recording sounds.
But when I’m on the board, it feels amazing. I feel rad.
Thoughts?
I relate to all of this.
I want to come back to the “tactile” part of the passage.
There are these feelings that are unique to skateboarding, and you feel them through your feet. (Sometimes also in your gut.) Rolling over brick. Pushing through grinds. Dropping in. Landing bolts. Floating over a hip.
Part of this is that we may not look like Gonz or Fred or Drehobl or whoever, but I bet we feel a lttle bit the same as them.
Or forget pros and looking stylish and all that for a second: I bet we feel different from anybody who has never done a grind. Have experienced different (exhilarating, painful) sensations.
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Filming myself skating has helped me tremendously in two major ways: making my technique better and improving my style.
While style is really a concept that ultimately cannot be defined objectively, there are recognizable universal aspects of how a person carries their body while skating that just look "good". It's not necessarily about wanting to look "good" in the eyes of others. It's about fine-tuning one's own artistic and personal expression, which is a major aspect of the art of skateboarding.
Improving one's style and not caring about what others think are not mutually exclusive. Everyone has an ego, and there's nothing wrong with keeping the ego happy in a healthy way. I mean, good style can inspire others, and isn't inspiring others a rewarding aspect of skating?
Plus, circling back to filming oneself – doesn't everyone want to look good in their own eyes?
Ultimately we're just all dancing in the void for ourselves and for each other, so why not try to making the dance all the more beautiful for the sole reason of nothing at all?
That is one of the cool things about skating--the same activity can mean, and be, totally different things to different people. Suffice to say, I think far less about these subjects than you seem to. I do what's fun/enjoyable to me, and don't really care about those other factors. No right or wrong in either one....just follow your own path. That's the only way.
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Filming myself skating has helped me tremendously in two major ways: making my technique better and improving my style.
While style is really a concept that ultimately cannot be defined objectively, there are recognizable universal aspects of how a person carries their body while skating that just look "good". It's not necessarily about wanting to look "good" in the eyes of others. It's about fine-tuning one's own artistic and personal expression, which is a major aspect of the art of skateboarding.
Improving one's style and not caring about what others think are not mutually exclusive. Everyone has an ego, and there's nothing wrong with keeping the ego happy in a healthy way. I mean, good style can inspire others, and isn't inspiring others a rewarding aspect of skating?
Plus, circling back to filming oneself – doesn't everyone want to look good in their own eyes?
Ultimately we're just all dancing in the void for ourselves and for each other, so why not try to making the dance all the more beautiful for the sole reason of nothing at all?
That is one of the cool things about skating--the same activity can mean, and be, totally different things to different people. Suffice to say, I think far less about these subjects than you seem to. I do what's fun/enjoyable to me, and don't really care about those other factors. No right or wrong in either one....just follow your own path. That's the only way.
Yeah man, it's not like I "think a lot" about these subjects like they're a burden or a puzzle that needs to be solved in order to attain peace of mind. I skate to have fun 100 %, but as I tried to convey, having fun and e.g. improving one's skating via various means aren't things that cancel each other out. On the contrary.
Totally agree about no right or wrong. Skateboarding is ultimately about freedom combined with massively inspiring psycho-social aspect and that's why it's so damn awesome.
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Filming myself skating has helped me tremendously in two major ways: making my technique better and improving my style.
While style is really a concept that ultimately cannot be defined objectively, there are recognizable universal aspects of how a person carries their body while skating that just look "good". It's not necessarily about wanting to look "good" in the eyes of others. It's about fine-tuning one's own artistic and personal expression, which is a major aspect of the art of skateboarding.
Improving one's style and not caring about what others think are not mutually exclusive. Everyone has an ego, and there's nothing wrong with keeping the ego happy in a healthy way. I mean, good style can inspire others, and isn't inspiring others a rewarding aspect of skating?
Plus, circling back to filming oneself – doesn't everyone want to look good in their own eyes?
Ultimately we're just all dancing in the void for ourselves and for each other, so why not try to making the dance all the more beautiful for the sole reason of nothing at all?
That is one of the cool things about skating--the same activity can mean, and be, totally different things to different people. Suffice to say, I think far less about these subjects than you seem to. I do what's fun/enjoyable to me, and don't really care about those other factors. No right or wrong in either one....just follow your own path. That's the only way.
Yeah man, it's not like I "think a lot" about these subjects like they're a burden or a puzzle that needs to be solved in order to attain peace of mind. I skate to have fun 100 %, but as I tried to convey, having fun and e.g. improving one's skating via various means aren't things that cancel each other out. On the contrary.
Totally agree about no right or wrong. Skateboarding is ultimately about freedom combined with massively inspiring psycho-social aspect and that's why it's so damn awesome.
^ Word.
On the subject of filming...I do a good amount of it, too. I work in the evenings. Most of my other skater friends have 9-5 jobs. Which means that (a) I often end up skating alone, and (b) I often have skate parks to myself. Sometimes when I am alone, filming gives me a little extra "push" to try landing something I might not otherwise be feeling (and can often show where I am doing something wrong). Most of the time, it's deleted shortly afterward.
Speaking of which, we should get some clips going in this thread. Here is something I filmed back in Dec when someone was asking about fakie shuv to b/s reverts in another thread...and b/s lip version of it, too.
https://vimeo.com/1142318812
https://vimeo.com/1144283517
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That fake shuv back lip combo looks great... and terrifying....
Busted out the kook cam at the local curb spot yesterday for a few curb ginders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvJqopeTiTI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvJqopeTiTI)
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That fake shuv back lip combo looks great... and terrifying....
Busted out the kook cam at the local curb spot yesterday for a few curb ginders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvJqopeTiTI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvJqopeTiTI)
HELL YES! Looks like a great curb spot. And i *hate* those exact f/s 5-0 bails. They are the worst.
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Yall are making it look so easy out here. Smooooooooth rollaways. 8)
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how do you do fellow oldies?
Just turned 52 this week!
still super stoked on skating
even though I don't skate as much as I wish I could!
for lack of time
My oldest son just turned 18...which kinda rams it in how old I actually am ha.
will check back in in this thread!
PS : finally got my fs rocks back on a little tiny mini! Hope to get the decked version back soon 8)
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Over 50
Started skating again after a very long time away.
My issue is remembering how good I was when I stopped, not how bad I was when I started
Base your sessions on where you are today, not where you were 30 years ago.
yeah, that is the goal when I leave the house....sometimes my reality does not play nice. It is all good, I still have a good time
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I’m 53 and always had a skateboard staring with a fiberglass one on the 70s. Late 80s got my first real board and started doing tricks.
Best skate times were probably 15-16 in Australia in 89ish. Was sponsored by this shop called the Rad Skate Shop that ripped off the vision street waer logo. I’d leave home on Friday on the bus for the edge skatepark in down town Fremantle and end up gone the whole weekend skating all day, crashing parties and sleeping next to train tacks.
Quit for a bit around 92 second year of college when “the older I got the skaters stayed the same age”
Got back into it in 99 when they built an A/C d vans skatepark in Houston when I lived there and I just couldn’t resist.
Been really enjoying getting these last couple years after quitting drinking about three years ago.
I’ve got a DGk with Bruce Lee on it and I don’t really keep up with the rest of my gear. I live in Austin. It’s just whatever the guys that no comply recommend.
This is my favorite thing to skate lately. Almost got back 180 over it. Rolled one away but not clean and pulled my lower back.
Music: turnstile, tool, NIN, tribe, Wu, cure, a place to bury strangers…
Lately pixel grip and geese
I own two software companies. Been living well, but it’s really kind of nerve-racking with AI lately. I’m also right in the process of going through a divorce with my wife been with for 28 years which means in 2 months I have to figure out dating again 😅
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVhrSoTCWbE/?igsh=Z3kxdXFodWh1ZHlh
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Sleazy got sprack!
Good shit. Love seeing old dudes jump.
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Filming myself skating has helped me tremendously in two major ways: making my technique better and improving my style.
While style is really a concept that ultimately cannot be defined objectively, there are recognizable universal aspects of how a person carries their body while skating that just look "good". It's not necessarily about wanting to look "good" in the eyes of others. It's about fine-tuning one's own artistic and personal expression, which is a major aspect of the art of skateboarding.
Improving one's style and not caring about what others think are not mutually exclusive. Everyone has an ego, and there's nothing wrong with keeping the ego happy in a healthy way. I mean, good style can inspire others, and isn't inspiring others a rewarding aspect of skating?
Plus, circling back to filming oneself – doesn't everyone want to look good in their own eyes?
Ultimately we're just all dancing in the void for ourselves and for each other, so why not try to making the dance all the more beautiful for the sole reason of nothing at all?
That is one of the cool things about skating--the same activity can mean, and be, totally different things to different people. Suffice to say, I think far less about these subjects than you seem to. I do what's fun/enjoyable to me, and don't really care about those other factors. No right or wrong in either one....just follow your own path. That's the only way.
Yeah man, it's not like I "think a lot" about these subjects like they're a burden or a puzzle that needs to be solved in order to attain peace of mind. I skate to have fun 100 %, but as I tried to convey, having fun and e.g. improving one's skating via various means aren't things that cancel each other out. On the contrary.
Totally agree about no right or wrong. Skateboarding is ultimately about freedom combined with massively inspiring psycho-social aspect and that's why it's so damn awesome.
^ Word.
On the subject of filming...I do a good amount of it, too. I work in the evenings. Most of my other skater friends have 9-5 jobs. Which means that (a) I often end up skating alone, and (b) I often have skate parks to myself. Sometimes when I am alone, filming gives me a little extra "push" to try landing something I might not otherwise be feeling (and can often show where I am doing something wrong). Most of the time, it's deleted shortly afterward.
Speaking of which, we should get some clips going in this thread. Here is something I filmed back in Dec when someone was asking about fakie shuv to b/s reverts in another thread...and b/s lip version of it, too.
https://vimeo.com/1142318812
https://vimeo.com/1144283517
Dude that fakie shuv to switch front board was a thing of beauty. Respect.
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so this morning I was feeling pretty good about myself still being able to roll around, Slap and life in general...
So I went skating during my lunch break....and I ate shit pretty good just pushing and carving at the same time! On flat. :-X
No clue why I lost balance suddently. Needless to say, my sesh was calm after that. Reminded me good how fast shit can go sideways on a skateboard.
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so this morning I was feeling pretty good about myself still being able to roll around, Slap and life in general...
So I went skating during my lunch break....and I ate shit pretty good just pushing and carving at the same time! On flat. :-X
No clue why I lost balance suddently. Needless to say, my sesh was calm after that. Reminded me good how fast shit can go sideways on a skateboard.
The concrete zombie is always lurking.
When shit goes sideways, dig into that lipslide.
Hope there’s no lasting pain.
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so this morning I was feeling pretty good about myself still being able to roll around, Slap and life in general...
So I went skating during my lunch break....and I ate shit pretty good just pushing and carving at the same time! On flat. :-X
No clue why I lost balance suddently. Needless to say, my sesh was calm after that. Reminded me good how fast shit can go sideways on a skateboard.
The concrete zombie is always lurking.
When shit goes sideways, dig into that lipslide.
Hope there’s no lasting pain.
all good thanks. Just a bruised ego!
My friend was like: "did you hit a rock?" and me: No I'm just useless I guess....
still had a fun sesh afterwards!
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I’m going to pose a vital question to this forum of OG style masters:
At 50, should I get carpenter shorts? Anyone dipped their toe in the jorts pool only to reluctantly put them on ebay six months later?
Going kinda for this:
(https://i.ibb.co/rSLk8gw/IMG-3005.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rSLk8gw)
…but concerned about ending up here:
(https://i.ibb.co/jZ8ywc2p/IMG-3004.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jZ8ywc2p)
I know the real answer is, “if you like them…”
I’ve been vocally anti jean shorts in the past, and then today I woke up and was like, “hmmm, maybe?”
Dickies brainworm got me.
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Do you jort because you're a 50 year old man? Or do you jort because it's what skaters are doing in 2026..... The only real answer is that you must jort.....
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I’m going to pose a vital question to this forum of OG style masters:
At 50, should I get carpenter shorts? Anyone dipped their toe in the jorts pool only to reluctantly put them on ebay six months later?
Going kinda for this:
(https://i.ibb.co/rSLk8gw/IMG-3005.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rSLk8gw)
…but concerned about ending up here:
(https://i.ibb.co/jZ8ywc2p/IMG-3004.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jZ8ywc2p)
I know the real answer is, “if you like them…”
I’ve been vocally anti jean shorts in the past, and then today I woke up and was like, “hmmm, maybe?”
Dickies brainworm got me.
I've always hated them, but you do you.
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(https://i.ibb.co/rSLk8gw/IMG-3005.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rSLk8gw)
ugh that combo of shorts + hi top outdoors shoes + multiple rings / bracelets / tattoos hurt my eyes.
But I'm a snobbish parisian at heart so don't mind me
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(https://i.ibb.co/rSLk8gw/IMG-3005.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rSLk8gw)
ugh that combo of shorts + hi top outdoors shoes + multiple rings / bracelets / tattoos hurt my eyes.
But I'm a snobbish parisian at heart so don't mind me
Ouf! As the kids (used to?) say, right in the feels!
I’m not likely to get tatted up any time soon…that’d be an even bigger fashion decision than some shorts.
And I’m not a jewelry guy either. (Had a brief, terrible leather bracelet and pukka shell phase 35 years ago, but it was the 90s.)
The shorts with boots look has been intriguing to me lately.
But deep in my heart I know that Frenchie is right.
Men with better calves than mine have failed to pull of this style. I will stick with my tried-and-true levi 505s…
At least until August, when I’ll be too hot to care how I look, and all of Paris is away on vacation.
Edit: yesterday while flipping through the internet I saw that they are now making double knee jorts which must be the pants equivalent of lug sole sandals. Workwear is timeless, beachwear is timeless, but don’t cross the streams?
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No jorts after 25, I say.
Mid knee to perhaps 1 1/8" above the knee max... preferably worn out Ben Davis cut offs.
But really no shorts unless absolutely necessary.
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AI generated, but going to leave this here!
For skaters over 50, prioritize comfort, mobility, and safety by wearing stretchy athletic gear like leggings, joggers, or moisture-wicking tops, while layering with hoodies or jackets. Protect yourself with knee pads, wrist guards, and a helmet, especially when in a skatepark. Avoid denim or rigid materials that restrict movement.
Key Recommendations
Bottoms: Leggings, yoga pants, or athletic joggers are best. If wearing skirts, ensure they allow full range of motion.
Tops: Breathable, moisture-wicking fabrics are ideal to stay comfortable. Layer with zip-up hoodies or sweaters to adjust to temperature
DNT
with this new insight, I say Jorts are 100% acceptable
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If you do insist on Jorts try to get your session wrapped before I arrive. Appreciate it.
Also don't knee slide in Jorts. You'll lose a tooth.
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AI generated, but going to leave this here!
For skaters over 50, prioritize comfort, mobility, and safety by wearing stretchy athletic gear like leggings, joggers, or moisture-wicking tops, while layering with hoodies or jackets. Protect yourself with knee pads, wrist guards, and a helmet, especially when in a skatepark. Avoid denim or rigid materials that restrict movement.
Key Recommendations
Bottoms: Leggings, yoga pants, or athletic joggers are best. If wearing skirts, ensure they allow full range of motion.
Tops: Breathable, moisture-wicking fabrics are ideal to stay comfortable. Layer with zip-up hoodies or sweaters to adjust to temperature
DNT
with this new insight, I say Jorts are 100% acceptable
Stay tuned for the ender of my 51 tricks at 51 part:
Double heel front blunt…
In yoga pants ;)
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If by jorts you mean Daisy Dukes, yes, perfectly acceptable.
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If you're over 50, you can rock whatever the fuck you want, yo.
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If you're over 50, you can rock whatever the fuck you want, yo.
Bathrobe and a shower cap it is then.
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If you're over 50, you can rock whatever the fuck you want, yo.
(https://i.ibb.co/mrqwMVDD/IMG-3006.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mrqwMVDD)
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If by jorts you mean Daisy Dukes, yes, perfectly acceptable.
(https://i.postimg.cc/2Vw7fHXr/IMG-6683.png) (https://postimg.cc/2Vw7fHXr)
Dang ol’ yo.
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If by jorts you mean Daisy Dukes, yes, perfectly acceptable.
(https://i.postimg.cc/2Vw7fHXr/IMG-6683.png) (https://postimg.cc/2Vw7fHXr)
Dang ol’ yo.
Boom-boomhauer
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Spring officially started today. A friend and I were at a park this morning, and I later realized this was the very first "Spring" trick I did after the official start (of Spring). I also realized it's now less than a month until my 52nd birthday. How did I suddenly get so old?!?! Anyway, hope everyone has a great Spring after this horrific winter. Go ride your skateboard, with or without, "jorts."
https://vimeo.com/1175613978?fl=pl&fe=sh
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Spring officially started today. A friend and I were at a park this morning, and I later realized this was the very first "Spring" trick I did after the official start (of Spring). I also realized it's now less than a month until my 52nd birthday. How did I suddenly get so old?!?! Anyway, hope everyone has a great Spring after this horrific winter. Go ride your skateboard, with or without, "jorts."
https://vimeo.com/1175613978?fl=pl&fe=sh
You always come through on trick selection
I used to do the cab feeble to fakie but haven’t tried it since I was probably 19. I’ll try to remember to try that again.
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You all are killing it. I guess I’ll have to start a kook cam so I can contribute barely something.
Also happy 52 Sedition.
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Spring officially started today. A friend and I were at a park this morning, and I later realized this was the very first "Spring" trick I did after the official start (of Spring). I also realized it's now less than a month until my 52nd birthday. How did I suddenly get so old?!?! Anyway, hope everyone has a great Spring after this horrific winter. Go ride your skateboard, with or without, "jorts."
https://vimeo.com/1175613978?fl=pl&fe=sh
Nice! I've been eyeing that Lucero deck since it came out. Happy bday man!
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Spring officially started today. A friend and I were at a park this morning, and I later realized this was the very first "Spring" trick I did after the official start (of Spring). I also realized it's now less than a month until my 52nd birthday. How did I suddenly get so old?!?! Anyway, hope everyone has a great Spring after this horrific winter. Go ride your skateboard, with or without, "jorts."
https://vimeo.com/1175613978?fl=pl&fe=sh
Hell yeah that’s the stuff…
When you need to get aaaaall the way around from fakie into bs feeble, are you kind of light-footing over the weird place where your trucks have to change direction and the wheels pop to the other way over the coping? Or is it a heel-toe weight distribution thing?
That movement always gets me hung up.
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Spring officially started today. A friend and I were at a park this morning, and I later realized this was the very first "Spring" trick I did after the official start (of Spring). I also realized it's now less than a month until my 52nd birthday. How did I suddenly get so old?!?! Anyway, hope everyone has a great Spring after this horrific winter. Go ride your skateboard, with or without, "jorts."
https://vimeo.com/1175613978?fl=pl&fe=sh
Hell yeah that’s the stuff…
When you need to get aaaaall the way around from fakie into bs feeble, are you kind of light-footing over the weird place where your trucks have to change direction and the wheels pop to the other way over the coping? Or is it a heel-toe weight distribution thing?
That movement always gets me hung up.
Cab to feeble to b/s smith is a weird one. Show me a clip you doing it the way you mean...i'm not quite following (what you mean).
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Nice! I've been eyeing that Lucero deck since it came out. Happy bday man!
It's funny, I almost never ride this thing (I'm a popsicle guy), but I brought it out yesterday. For the first 5 min, I was like, "Yeah, I dunno about this." But then I sort of got a bit used to it, and it was really fun.
Birthday is mid-April...thanks for all the premature-birth day wishes. :)
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It’s not something, but it’s nothing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cnTyQZH1Tzc
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It’s not something, but it’s nothing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cnTyQZH1Tzc
Yup. Love that.
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Thanks. I’m a dork so dork tricks prevail.
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It’s not something, but it’s nothing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cnTyQZH1Tzc
Fuck yeah man!
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Jenkem did a little interview with me.
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2026/03/26/preserving-skateboardings-outsider-era-with-the-past-participle/
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Jenkem did a little interview with me.
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2026/03/26/preserving-skateboardings-outsider-era-with-the-past-participle/
Sick, great read! Congrats!
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Jenkem did a little interview with me.
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2026/03/26/preserving-skateboardings-outsider-era-with-the-past-participle/
getting props from cardiel under that jenkem ig post must have felt good :)
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Jenkem did a little interview with me.
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2026/03/26/preserving-skateboardings-outsider-era-with-the-past-participle/
That’s rad and definitely deserved.
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This is so cool!
I forget that some people on here are famous.
That bail with the kid in midair, sheet of plywood leaned on the cinder blocks and the yellow board flying away…damn I hope that kid’s alright! Maybe the gnarliest still image “bail section” I’ve seen.
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Jenkem did a little interview with me.
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2026/03/26/preserving-skateboardings-outsider-era-with-the-past-participle/
Nice!
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Jenkem did a little interview with me.
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2026/03/26/preserving-skateboardings-outsider-era-with-the-past-participle/
Nice!
Thanks!
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A thing from today. Nose f/s revert. One of my favorite transition tricks. I'll be hitting 52 in less than two weeks. God, how did I suddenly get so old?
(https://i.ibb.co/fzGx96Dc/IMG-2626.jpg)
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A thing from today. Nose f/s revert. One of my favorite transition tricks. I'll be hitting 52 in less than two weeks. God, how did I suddenly get so old?
And right up on there how it should be too!!!
Whenever I looked at old footage I would often barely get the nose to tap before already having things on the way round and down for front nose reverts, but it is good to see the trick done right as per your pic!
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Sick one. I thought about trying those over the years but never have. You make it look like a front rock... so maybe I should.
My body is spent today. Bowl session on Friday. Curbs yesterday. Both long solo sessions. Felt great.
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Remember when I was 52, did a no-comply, and then was out for 2 weeks with a bum knee
Oh wait
That is now!
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A thing from today. Nose f/s revert. One of my favorite transition tricks. I'll be hitting 52 in less than two weeks. God, how did I suddenly get so old?
(https://i.ibb.co/fzGx96Dc/IMG-2626.jpg)
@Sedition thats a great shot and properly tweaked. I’m jealous, I could only get those cheater(aka hand down).
Hit the wave today and almost stepped on a rattle snake on the way there.
(https://i.postimg.cc/J7NDK9KF/IMG-6719.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Rq0ZZpk1)
(https://i.postimg.cc/m2dr5R92/IMG-6726.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9r7VD61v)
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The clover I skated on Friday. My goal is triple nipple rock and rolls (each hip in a row)
https://imgur.com/8iSAIou (https://imgur.com/8iSAIou)
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A thing from today. Nose f/s revert. One of my favorite transition tricks. I'll be hitting 52 in less than two weeks. God, how did I suddenly get so old?
And right up on there how it should be too!!!
Whenever I looked at old footage I would often barely get the nose to tap before already having things on the way round and down for front nose reverts, but it is good to see the trick done right as per your pic!
Thanks for the kind words, all!
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How are the rest of the Old Timers doin? LOL
I have been slow and timid for the past month after screwing up my knee on a No-Comply of all things.
MRI on Monday
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well shit. heal up quick man!
As for me, I got good news: decked fs rocks are back in my mini ramp repertoire. Stoked.
And bad news: I'm still useless at slappys, that bugs me so hard. Boardslides and stuff are no problem, but anything involving the trucks is impossible to me.
Yesterday I finally worked up the courage to try feeble slappys on a double sided curb and immediately ate shit on the second try. double sided curbs really scare me, when you slip out there's no way to get out of it. I have no idea how older guys manage to skate that shit whithout killing themselves. Watching Daclin it looks so good....
https://www.instagram.com/p/DW1XEKBDF6M/?img_index=2
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well shit. heal up quick man!
As for me, I got good news: decked fs rocks are back in my mini ramp repertoire. Stoked.
And bad news: I'm still useless at slappys, that bugs me so hard. Boardslides and stuff are no problem, but anything involving the trucks is impossible to me.
Yesterday I finally worked up the courage to try feeble slappys on a double sided curb and immediately ate shit on the second try. double sided curbs really scare me, when you slip out there's no way to get out of it. I have no idea how older guys manage to skate that shit whithout killing themselves. Watching Daclin it looks so good....
https://www.instagram.com/p/DW1XEKBDF6M/?img_index=2
My Slappy process:
1. approach with the assumed needed speed
2. contact curb
3. eat shit!
sometimes when I miss curbslide, it get into a noseslide and immediately bail...lol
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I've always been of the opinion that curb/slappy skating is the most scary and dangerous form of skateboarding. I prefer doing a frontside ollie down a five stair in my fifties over a front board on double sided curb.
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How are the rest of the Old Timers doin? LOL
I have been slow and timid for the past month after screwing up my knee on a No-Comply of all things.
MRI on Monday
Ugh. Super sorry to hear about the MRI. Hope things aren't...too bad / you heal-up quickly.
A good instagram "friend" of mine just broke his leg / leg ankle pretty bad, the exact same way I did mine back in 2019. That has triggered a bit of the "re-injury anxiety" in me.
This winter was really bad. Recent "spring" weather has not been much better. Not sure if it's a function of just clearing out winter rust or not, but the last few weeks of sessions I've been feeling really sluggish, weak, timid, and, well, old...hopefully that diminishes with warmer weather and more skating.
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well shit. heal up quick man!
As for me, I got good news: decked fs rocks are back in my mini ramp repertoire. Stoked.
And bad news: I'm still useless at slappys, that bugs me so hard. Boardslides and stuff are no problem, but anything involving the trucks is impossible to me.
Yesterday I finally worked up the courage to try feeble slappys on a double sided curb and immediately ate shit on the second try. double sided curbs really scare me, when you slip out there's no way to get out of it.
f/s rocks = congrats.
Curbs: They can bite, and bite hard.
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been bragging about waking up with no pain for a couple of years (i put it down to giving up beer) and then bam... put my back out a couple of weeks back... anyway after much stretching and acupuncture i'm back at it...
managed a front rock or two so all is well again. sorry to hear about the injuries!
(https://i.imgur.com/2UFdbcd.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zmDy8Xy.mp4)
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well shit. heal up quick man!
As for me, I got good news: decked fs rocks are back in my mini ramp repertoire. Stoked.
And bad news: I'm still useless at slappys, that bugs me so hard. Boardslides and stuff are no problem, but anything involving the trucks is impossible to me.
Yesterday I finally worked up the courage to try feeble slappys on a double sided curb and immediately ate shit on the second try. double sided curbs really scare me, when you slip out there's no way to get out of it. I have no idea how older guys manage to skate that shit whithout killing themselves. Watching Daclin it looks so good....
https://www.instagram.com/p/DW1XEKBDF6M/?img_index=2
Not to not pick but that’s a front hurricane, and a damn nice one at that! Great clips
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(https://i.imgur.com/2xkTBQf.jpeg)
I was the oldest by far at last night's session. The crew went out drinking and hillbombing into the night. I went home to walk the dog...
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(https://i.imgur.com/2xkTBQf.jpeg)
I was the oldest by far at last night's session. The crew went out drinking and hillbombing into the night. I went home to walk the dog...
Oh, hell yes!
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Anyone else see that recent “Day in the Life” video with Hawk? He made some pretty on-point comments about being, well, an old skater. Worth a watch.
https://youtu.be/wSkKPCmiQAk?si=4gUPW8SQ_PuCF9jO
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Got back on the board last night for the first time since last August.
It was a perfect spring night to be at the skate park. Sun just starting to set. A couple of homies that I haven’t seen in forever pulled up. Somebody had patched the transition where it had been starting to crumble under the coping.
So good to be back.
…but fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, I have to relearn EVERYTHING. I mean, I wasn’t great before but I had a consistent little bag.
At first I couldn’t even roll fakie or nollie. Pretty soon muscle memory kicked in and I could do some basic kickturns, but I couldn’t manage a powerslide or slappy. Didn’t even pop the tail. Didn’t dare approach the coping.
For those who have taken some injury-enforced time off, tell me your ways to get that good old feeling back!
I feel like I spent seven years building a tidy little cabin, only to have a tornado come along and pitch it in the lake.
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For those who have taken some injury-enforced time off, tell me your ways to get that good old feeling back!
What injury did you have?
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For those who have taken some injury-enforced time off, tell me your ways to get that good old feeling back!
What injury did you have?
I have capsulitis in the second toe on my left foot. It feels like a hot, sharp stone under the skin in the ball of the foot, right where the toe joins the foot.
It sucks.
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For those who have taken some injury-enforced time off, tell me your ways to get that good old feeling back!
What injury did you have?
I have capsulitis in the second toe on my left foot. It feels like a hot, sharp stone under the skin in the ball of the foot, right where the toe joins the foot.
It sucks.
That sounds...depleasant. Gone now, or an ongoing thing? I broke my leg/ankle back in 2019. Two surgeries. Had to learn to walk again, not to mention skating (was off board for a year). The recovery process was...interesting.
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This is worth a watch / relevant to this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7RehWYECoY
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For those who have taken some injury-enforced time off, tell me your ways to get that good old feeling back!
What injury did you have?
I have capsulitis in the second toe on my left foot. It feels like a hot, sharp stone under the skin in the ball of the foot, right where the toe joins the foot.
It sucks.
That sounds...depleasant. Gone now, or an ongoing thing? I broke my leg/ankle back in 2019. Two surgeries. Had to learn to walk again, not to mention skating (was off board for a year). The recovery process was...interesting.
It’s to the point now that the physical therapist says I can test it… but also if I stand/run/skate too long (20-30 minutes) it starts to hurt again.
I do far better with “you need to go hard” than with “you need to do some, but not too much, and listen to your body.”
Broken ankle sounds terrible. Ankles and wrists are so complicated. Can’t imagine relearning to walk.
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This is worth a watch / relevant to this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7RehWYECoY
amazing! super inspiring
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This is worth a watch / relevant to this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7RehWYECoY
So good! Nosepick body varial is immaculate…especially “lookatthis!” mid-trick.
I love the idea that not being able to jump down huge stuff anymore is freeing. Love the creativity!
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This is worth a watch / relevant to this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7RehWYECoY
This was awesome. I love all those Blockhead dudes, and watch the Bonkersville channel Laban has all the time. Lambert used to go big! Amazing his knees are still holding up.
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Got back on the board last night for the first time since last August.
It was a perfect spring night to be at the skate park. Sun just starting to set. A couple of homies that I haven’t seen in forever pulled up. Somebody had patched the transition where it had been starting to crumble under the coping.
So good to be back.
…but fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, I have to relearn EVERYTHING. I mean, I wasn’t great before but I had a consistent little bag.
At first I couldn’t even roll fakie or nollie. Pretty soon muscle memory kicked in and I could do some basic kickturns, but I couldn’t manage a powerslide or slappy. Didn’t even pop the tail. Didn’t dare approach the coping.
For those who have taken some injury-enforced time off, tell me your ways to get that good old feeling back!
I feel like I spent seven years building a tidy little cabin, only to have a tornado come along and pitch it in the lake.
I have said it a few times
I am back from a 20+ year break, and the hard part is not comparing myself to how good I was when I stopped, but remembering how bad I was when I started....
I think I almost have my final truck/deck combo, but I need another 14 wb deck to be sure so I can ride the setups side by side
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Wow, Lambert's curb combos... Pretty impressive.
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This is worth a watch / relevant to this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7RehWYECoY
Absolutely amazing!
that quote about curbs, is spot on, and might be the reason I have been hesitant to learn slappys
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Good stuff above!
Finally made it to NYC on a business trip and took my board then skated and took train everywhere. So fun
https://www.instagram.com/p/DYDGYgxj8G1/?igsh=a2M4dHNneGQ0amp1
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NYC ollie shot is money.
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Got back on the board last night for the first time since last August.
It was a perfect spring night to be at the skate park. Sun just starting to set. A couple of homies that I haven’t seen in forever pulled up. Somebody had patched the transition where it had been starting to crumble under the coping.
So good to be back.
…but fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, I have to relearn EVERYTHING. I mean, I wasn’t great before but I had a consistent little bag.
At first I couldn’t even roll fakie or nollie. Pretty soon muscle memory kicked in and I could do some basic kickturns, but I couldn’t manage a powerslide or slappy. Didn’t even pop the tail. Didn’t dare approach the coping.
For those who have taken some injury-enforced time off, tell me your ways to get that good old feeling back!
I feel like I spent seven years building a tidy little cabin, only to have a tornado come along and pitch it in the lake.
I have said it a few times
I am back from a 20+ year break, and the hard part is not comparing myself to how good I was when I stopped, but remembering how bad I was when I started....
I think I almost have my final truck/deck combo, but I need another 14 wb deck to be sure so I can ride the setups side by side
I dig it.
Instead of saying “I HAVE to start over,” I’ve been trying to think, “I GET to learn all these tricks again and have fun re-learning them.”
Trying to.
I suppose asking what people did to come back and how it felt is mostly a matter for the beginner trick tips section. Was anything different the second time? Did revisiting the basics make them more solid?
Maybe I should check the epiphany thread too.
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I suppose asking what people did to come back and how it felt is mostly a matter for the beginner trick tips section. Was anything different the second time? Did revisiting the basics make them more solid?
Tricks lost, found and newly found notwithstanding, I think Lambert summed it up perfectly. I'm definitely having more fun skateboarding now as compared to 30+ years ago. Or at least it's a different kind of more wholesome, fulfilling type of fun.
With my homies skateboarding these days is more than just skating. It's peer group therapy, meditation, dancing, goofing around and cherishing our inner children, just plain having a laugh, hyping each other regardless of skill level and tricks.
Solo sessions can be fun and rewarding too, but the true gems are revealed when homies congregate.
Such a blessing to be able to do it still.
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MRI tomorrow, need good news
I think the thought of hurting my knee again is killing my desire and progression right now.
I mean I sucked before, but now I am nervous and suck, so that = I REALLY suck, where da-fuq my ollie go?
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I suppose asking what people did to come back and how it felt is mostly a matter for the beginner trick tips section. Was anything different the second time? Did revisiting the basics make them more solid?
Tricks lost, found and newly found notwithstanding, I think Lambert summed it up perfectly. I'm definitely having more fun skateboarding now as compared to 30+ years ago. Or at least it's a different kind of more wholesome, fulfilling type of fun.
With my homies skateboarding these days is more than just skating. It's peer group therapy, meditation, dancing, goofing around and cherishing our inner children, just plain having a laugh, hyping each other regardless of skill level and tricks.
Solo sessions can be fun and rewarding too, but the true gems are revealed when homies congregate.
Such a blessing to be able to do it still.
Well said.
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I suppose asking what people did to come back and how it felt is mostly a matter for the beginner trick tips section. Was anything different the second time? Did revisiting the basics make them more solid?
Tricks lost, found and newly found notwithstanding, I think Lambert summed it up perfectly. I'm definitely having more fun skateboarding now as compared to 30+ years ago. Or at least it's a different kind of more wholesome, fulfilling type of fun.
With my homies skateboarding these days is more than just skating. It's peer group therapy, meditation, dancing, goofing around and cherishing our inner children, just plain having a laugh, hyping each other regardless of skill level and tricks.
Solo sessions can be fun and rewarding too, but the true gems are revealed when homies congregate.
Such a blessing to be able to do it still.
Well said.
agree to disagree. I had more fun when I was 15, 20 or 30. Even 35. I can understand for a guy like Lambert, who had the pressure of being pro. But for a nobody like me, nothing can beat the devil-may-care years of youth.
or maybe it's more fun being an aging skater in the US where it's more common?
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I suppose asking what people did to come back and how it felt is mostly a matter for the beginner trick tips section. Was anything different the second time? Did revisiting the basics make them more solid?
Tricks lost, found and newly found notwithstanding, I think Lambert summed it up perfectly. I'm definitely having more fun skateboarding now as compared to 30+ years ago. Or at least it's a different kind of more wholesome, fulfilling type of fun.
With my homies skateboarding these days is more than just skating. It's peer group therapy, meditation, dancing, goofing around and cherishing our inner children, just plain having a laugh, hyping each other regardless of skill level and tricks.
Solo sessions can be fun and rewarding too, but the true gems are revealed when homies congregate.
Such a blessing to be able to do it still.
Well said.
agree to disagree. I had more fun when I was 15, 20 or 30. Even 35. I can understand for a guy like Lambert, who had the pressure of being pro. But for a nobody like me, nothing can beat the devil-may-care years of youth.
or maybe it's more fun being an aging skater in the US where it's more common?
I'm having more fun on my board now then I ever did before. My least fun period? When I was sponsored (by a small board company) when I was probably at my "peak" ability. Funny how things work like that.
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I had the least fun when I was around 16 and trying to keep up with my insanely talented crew at the time, of which several went on to become pro or at least sponsored. Shit was hella serious, and the less talented kids like me were eventually starting to be just plain ignored for the fact that we couldn't keep up.
I ended up moving on and finding more fun and happiness in other things. Part of the process was also that I found my "true" calling in the arts which ended up taking me on a wild ride and redefining my life.
Anyway, none of the above bothers us middle aged men these days. It's like were having fun in the waiting room before it's time to step to the other side.
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Anyway, none of the above bothers us middle aged men these days. It's like were having fun in the waiting room before it's time to step to the other side.
I am so stealing this metaphor!
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Anyway, none of the above bothers us middle aged men these days. It's like were having fun in the waiting room before it's time to step to the other side.
I am so stealing this metaphor!
All yours brother. Thank you skateboarding.
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Sorry to crash the 50+ thread, but I'm 45 and the way time is flying I'll be 50 by the end of the week.
Skating was pure fun from age like 8 to 15 or so, but when I started pulling ahead of my peers and actually getting good good it started getting less fun. I became really, really hard on myself and skating felt more like a challenge to overcome than a way to have fun and express myself. When that carrot of sponsorship was dangling in front of my face it became all I focused on and I lost sight of everything else. (I was never getting sponsored, I was good but I was "big fish in a small pond" good).
When I started again in my late 30s' it was a lot more fun for me because it doesn't feel consequential. I'm not expecting any significant progression and spend most of my session rattling off my greatest hits and maintaining what I have. I still push myself and have expectations and goals, new tricks I'm working on or tricks I used to do that I want back, but I'm not stressing out about it and I'm giving myself a lot more grace.
The only time I get mad anymore is when one of my "greatest hits" tricks isn't working. I don't mind not learning a ton of new stuff but losing tricks is a hard pill to swallow. Feels like death.
So far I haven't lost any of them, but I get nervous and irritable if there's a day or two where one of them isn't working.
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The only time I get mad anymore is when one of my "greatest hits" tricks isn't working. I don't mind not learning a ton of new stuff but losing tricks is a hard pill to swallow. Feels like death.
This is, unfortunately, your inescapable future. It will come faster than you expect.
One of two things will happen. You will either make peace with it, or you will quit skating because of frustration, despair, and ego-pampering.*
If you make peace with it, skating will suddenly open up to you like never before. If you think you had fun as kid, you have no idea what's coming.
If don't make peace with it, you, also, have no idea what is coming.
This is not, at all, to say you should just resign yourself to existential capitulation. It is, however, to affirm (your) reality.
*There is a third option, and it's the worst one. You keep skating, but you always resent it because your mind is living the past, but your body is living in the present.
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I think we all agree then ;D
the only difference is that I was never good enough to be sponsored or hope to be, so I never had any pressure when I was young. Skating was just a fun hobby. and it also means my skill level decreasing probably happens much faster than for guys who were good enough to be sponsored....
I'm still pretty obsessed with it though and super happy I can still do it. But I really would not say it's more fun than at the time when all my mates had zero responsabilities and we could just go on adventures across the city, whenever, whereever.
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MRI tomorrow, need good news
I think the thought of hurting my knee again is killing my desire and progression right now.
I mean I sucked before, but now I am nervous and suck, so that = I REALLY suck, where da-fuq my ollie go?
As I thought, torn meniscus, and the other complications that come with it!
While I am waiting for the doc to reach out, I guess I will go skate....
Stupid No-Comply....
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The only time I get mad anymore is when one of my "greatest hits" tricks isn't working. I don't mind not learning a ton of new stuff but losing tricks is a hard pill to swallow. Feels like death.
This is, unfortunately, your inescapable future. It will come faster than you expect.
One of two things will happen. You will either make peace with it, or you will quit skating because of frustration, despair, and ego-pampering.*
If you make peace with it, skating will suddenly open up to you like never before. If you think you had fun as kid, you have no idea what's coming.
If don't make peace with it, you, also, have no idea what is coming.
This is not, at all, to say you should just resign yourself to existential capitulation. It is, however, to affirm (your) reality.
*There is a third option, and it's the worst one. You keep skating, but you always resent it because your mind is living the past, but your body is living in the present.
I feel that, there are tricks I could do as recent as 3 years ago that have just kinda stopped working for me due to neglect, reduced mobility, or both.
My nollie and switch game is in shambles.
It's much more noticeable these days that skate tricks are a lot like building muscle where without regular maintenance and repetition they diminish quickly.
And both diminish faster the older you get.
I've been slowly culling my bag because I just don't have time or energy to maintain dozens of tricks. I'd rather do 5 tricks strong, stylish and consistent than 20 tricks weak and inconsistent. So a few years ago I pretty much stopped skating switch altogether. About a year or so later I slowly quit doing nollie tricks.
It's like when a person is dying and the blood leaves the extremities to keep the vital organs alive, haha.
I sacrificed switch and nollie so I could devote more time to keeping my regular flip tricks strong.
I know the clock is ticking, and when the kickflips stop popping, the tre flips stop spinning, and benches are just too tall to jump on anymore, I'll be sad, frustrated, I'll mourn their loss, but I'll move on.
It's a part of why I've never given any time to learning slappies...yet, I'm saving those for later.
When my current bag of tricks betrays me, I'll have a whole new world of skating and gear madness I've never even explored waiting for me on the other side!
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Tricks come and go.... and sometimes they come back AGAIN.... I gave up on flips in my 30s but during Covid relearned nearly all of them.... and now I lost all but 3 again... but maybe they'll be back....
My approach is, focus on what's working and what you are enjoying that day and good things can happen....
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I know the clock is ticking, and when the kickflips stop popping, the tre flips stop spinning, and benches are just too tall to jump on anymore, I'll be sad, frustrated, I'll mourn their loss, but I'll move on.
That's one of the things you learn as time goes on. A tailside on curb, instead of a really tall ledge, is still a tail slide. Height and size may change, yet the Stoke of doing a (the same) trick on something smaller is still there--you just have to realize the underlying equation hasn't changed, only the variables have.
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just back from a 2 hr sesh, decided to be brave and try to hit our little down rail, first time skating it, got on 3 or 4 times, almost landed one on accident, I figure I will pull a clip in the next 3-4 sessions.
Good day after shit news
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Funny, I woke up to a text today asking me about aging and skateboarding. Not sure how old this friend is. I'm guessing late 30s... He wanted to schedule a phone call with me to talk it through injuries, aging and being the oldest guy at the sesh....
I said, fuck that. Let's just organize a session.
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Funny, I woke up to a text today asking me about aging and skateboarding. Not sure how old this friend is. I'm guessing late 30s... He wanted to schedule a phone call with me to talk it through injuries, aging and being the oldest guy at the sesh....
I said, fuck that. Let's just organize a session.
How often are you guys skating each week? I shoot for 3-4 a week for an hour each but it all depends on how beat I am after work.
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Funny, I woke up to a text today asking me about aging and skateboarding. Not sure how old this friend is. I'm guessing late 30s... He wanted to schedule a phone call with me to talk it through injuries, aging and being the oldest guy at the sesh....
I said, fuck that. Let's just organize a session.
How often are you guys skating each week? I shoot for 3-4 a week for an hour each but it all depends on how beat I am after work.
i'm probably 2-3 and they probably are around 45 mins
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dope sesh this morning!
I learned 2 new tricks, which hadn't happened to me in years haha.... I usually just relearn! But those 2 were proper NBDs for me: No comply wallie (very fun) and slappy tailslide to fakie. The funny thing about that one is that I've been doing slappy tailslides since I was probably 13 but it turns out I was not doing them the proper way! I just suddenly realized I had to be closer to the curb when launching the trick so that I could properly "sit" on it when sliding. and that has opened up going to fakie, which I never could do before. Pretty funny to have a sudden epiphany for a trick you've been doing close to 40 years. I might try slappy tailslides shove-it or slappy tailslides to switch krooked next. stoked!
As for my routine, I tend to skate once or twice a week, probably 1 hour or 1 h 30 sessions. If I get 3 hours of riding in a week, I'm happy. :D
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MRI tomorrow, need good news
I think the thought of hurting my knee again is killing my desire and progression right now.
I mean I sucked before, but now I am nervous and suck, so that = I REALLY suck, where da-fuq my ollie go?
As I thought, torn meniscus, and the other complications that come with it!
While I am waiting for the doc to reach out, I guess I will go skate....
Stupid No-Comply....
don't get too down, it might be an easy fix. I had 4 meniscus surgeries and for 3 out of those, I was out for about a month only. Now the last one....that took me out almost 6 months. But some guys recover super quick. A friend of mine could skate maybe a week after meniscus surgery. and walk the day after. so you might be in for a quicker recovery than a badly sprained ankle if you are lucky.
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Also had a dope session
Was working on back blunts on a parking curb at house park and got back full length and front for about 3/4
Didn’t Illinois though but was fun sitting on them. The homie also got both too
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Was doing 2 days about 45-90 minute sessions but the college is done as of this week so I’m going to start hitting the curbs daily after work.
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I try for at least 3 hour long sessions per week, longer or more if I can
I been working a down rail, will post a pic in a day or 2, but I really want to learn slappy's but I cant bring myself to bash into a curb at speed, seems so much can go bad
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From the Doc:
It looks like you do have a complete tear of the lateral meniscus in the knee. I am going to place a referral to a minimally invasive knee surgeon to discuss further.
Great 👍
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From the Doc:
It looks like you do have a complete tear of the lateral meniscus in the knee. I am going to place a referral to a minimally invasive knee surgeon to discuss further.
Great 👍
Damn.
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Me and my broke ass knee are hitting a new park today!
Got to get it in where I can, funny thing is, while I know they the knee feels different, not pain more of an ache, at 52 it feels like every other joint!
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Me and my broke ass knee are hitting a new park today!
Got to get it in where I can, funny thing is, while I know they the knee feels different, not pain more of an ache, at 52 it feels like every other joint!
Don't blow it out so you can't skate at all man!
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Me and my broke ass knee are hitting a new park today!
Got to get it in where I can, funny thing is, while I know they the knee feels different, not pain more of an ache, at 52 it feels like every other joint!
Don't blow it out so you can't skate at all man!
I hear ya!
At my age I don't go to hard, and do take it even easier now, like I said, it really doesn't hurt, there is a dull ache most of the time, but I have full mobility.
I think the fact that it is my leading leg, I am a bit lucky
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From the Doc:
It looks like you do have a complete tear of the lateral meniscus in the knee. I am going to place a referral to a minimally invasive knee surgeon to discuss further.
Great 👍
That sucks, but at least you are on the road to getting it fixed.
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Just curious...what are people in this thread riding for set-ups?
I was a DLX 8.25 guy for well over 10 years, but like most old guys, I seem to be liking wider boards these days. The 8.75/14.5 Black Label has been my jam for a while now. 14.5 wb still has some agility, and the 8.75 width has some nice stability. It's a good balance for me. Yes, flip tricks are bit clunky, but I am flipping my board less and less these days.
(And I still have an 8.25 DLX set-up, too...but seem to be riding it less and less, and less...and I have 149s on it now, too. Use to be 144s only. But man, those things seem like tiny baby freestyle trucks to me now!)
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The post above is really right on time.
I have finally settled my set-up madness to a degree.
I ride 8.3s in 2 different shapes from Apex Laminates currently on a 14.25 WB.
Waiting on some samples in one of there new shapes with a 14wb to show up.
I was riding a DLX shape from a small local skate brand that was 8.3 x sub 32, with a 14wb and really liked it so when realized Apex had one, I was keen to try it.
All my trucks are for 8.5 decks, wheels are usually 54mm @ 99a.
Honestly, the best thing I have done is stopping my habit of showing up at the local park with 3+ setups and just riding one.
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Currently on an 8.125 x 14.25 with cast Ventures. Very close to my sweet spot.
Deck width is not overly critical, but anything below 8.12 or above 8.38 starts to feel a bit uncomfortable.
Wheelbase can be anywhere from 14 to 14.38, but anything over that and I start struggling.
Deck length sweet spot is at 31.85. 32 is fine, 31.5 is too short. Anything above 32 is a no-no.
Wheels usually 54-55 new, but I ride them until they're 53 or even less. 97 has been my go to duro lately. Less soreness in the feet.
Ventures for life, man. I always go back. Thunders are shitty regarding bushings, turn and kingpin clearance. Indys always end up disappointing me in ways too numerous to list here. Aces screw up my pop. Can't be arsed to try other trucks, life's too short.
This starts to sound like the Madness thread.
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Honestly, the best thing I have done is stopping my habit of showing up at the local park with 3+ setups and just riding one.
This is truth.
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Just curious...what are people in this thread riding for set-ups?
I was a DLX 8.25 guy for well over 10 years, but like most old guys, I seem to be liking wider boards these days. The 8.75/14.5 Black Label has been my jam for a while now. 14.5 wb still has some agility, and the 8.75 width has some nice stability. It's a good balance for me. Yes, flip tricks are bit clunky, but I am flipping my board less and less these days.
(And I still have an 8.25 DLX set-up, too...but seem to be riding it less and less, and less...and I have 149s on it now, too. Use to be 144s only. But man, those things seem like tiny baby freestyle trucks to me now!)
Black Label Tugboat and Jumbotron. I don't flip my board, just ollies and curb skating for me.
(https://i.imgur.com/R9CYaxh.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vf5dpa5.jpeg)
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I don't flip my board, just ollies and curb skating for me.
same here! well curbs and minis. I just put together this 9.25 Dressen board and I love it. Short wheelbase, and I'm still rocking the trucks Síota gifted me a while back, thanks again mate! ;)
(https://i.ibb.co/nWsPZkz/20260424-134613.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MXDBWNM)
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Jenkem did a little interview with me.
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2026/03/26/preserving-skateboardings-outsider-era-with-the-past-participle/
Nice!
That’s sick bro those photos are gold
Is before my time I was born in 85 but they made me think about being young and skating all the time
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quick little vid from a sesh last month! relearning decked front rocks + relearning tail blocks
(not quite all the way up on that one.....my original goal was to relearn crail blocks but I had to settle for regular tail blocks! those tricks are harder than I remembered but also funner 8) )
https://jumpshare.com/s/J7SYyBTVINHQ0diZ9zNO
no clue how to embed this sorry.
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quick little vid from a sesh last month! relearning decked front rocks + relearning tail blocks
(not quite all the way up on that one.....my original goal was to relearn crail blocks but I had to settle for regular tail blocks! those tricks are harder than I remembered but also funner 8) )
https://jumpshare.com/s/J7SYyBTVINHQ0diZ9zNO
no clue how to embed this sorry.
Nice, man!
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quick little vid from a sesh last month! relearning decked front rocks + relearning tail blocks
(not quite all the way up on that one.....my original goal was to relearn crail blocks but I had to settle for regular tail blocks! those tricks are harder than I remembered but also funner 8) )
https://jumpshare.com/s/J7SYyBTVINHQ0diZ9zNO
no clue how to embed this sorry.
Nice, man!
Love it love it love it 8) 8) 8)
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quick little vid from a sesh last month! relearning decked front rocks + relearning tail blocks
(not quite all the way up on that one.....my original goal was to relearn crail blocks but I had to settle for regular tail blocks! those tricks are harder than I remembered but also funner 8) )
https://jumpshare.com/s/J7SYyBTVINHQ0diZ9zNO
no clue how to embed this sorry.
Great clips.
I love crail blocks, but only do them on banks (modern round tails, and that trick on coping, are an insane death wish). Here are two pics my friend took of me...
(https://i.ibb.co/TxRp0Hvc/IMG-8506.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/DH7fcJf5/IMG-3407.jpg)
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thanks fellow oldies :)
and nice pics Sedition!
never thought of trying that on a bank but I will.... yeah those tricks don't work on regular coping, that's why I started skating that little quarterpipe on the side.... it has no coping. There's something about turning that way on your tail that is super fun! I might try frontside one day....never did those before and they look sick!!
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I’ve got 3 set-ups, ranging from 8.8 to 10 inch.
I have a 10-inch AH horse-pill when I don’t want to goof off and just sit on boardslides on double-sided curbs.
9.25 BL Tugboat, probably my favorite board, with axled Aces and 97x wheels. It feels dialed in and comfortable
And the && 8.8 twin blunt egg with Ace lows and 99a spits I never thought I’d go under 9, but I really like it.
If I want to kickflip or do anything that requires me leaving the board, I use this
It’s also my travel board, going to get in it today here in Halifax
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Well I mostly skate the Huffer (no surprise) with various undercarriages, usually 8.75" or 9" Ace trucks. Always F4s, mostly 99s but sometimes 93s. Classics or Radials for the most part. I love messing with different sizes for different applications.
I do like twin tails also and will skate them in sizes between 8.25 and 8.75.
I probably change what I ride too much but I find different set ups, bring out different things in my skateboarding and keep me interested.
Also, I'm pretty consistent with Pepper Grip and Bones Swiss 6 Ball. Jessup will do and I like the Ace bearings and Bones Big Balls also.
NB 440s, Ipaths not so much Vans anymore but will get some Skate Eras.
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Got a new Krooked deck yesterday. This is the top graphic on it:
(https://i.ibb.co/zHby4W0h/01.png)
These sentiments do not align with my current "old guy" skating reality, so I "fixed" it.
(https://i.ibb.co/Qvdw5F9B/02.png)
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Hahah. nice one. Need some clear grip for that.
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Hahah. nice one. Need some clear grip for that.
Yup! I actually put some clear over that, and that is the ONLY time in 40-years of skating that I've ever used clear tape!
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LOVE your take on that @Sedition.
(https://i.postimg.cc/yY3g0NJ8/IMG-6837.png) (https://postimg.cc/RN9ZB4Qk)
Feeble old man.
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This is a decent old-guy article. Can read it for free on NYT app.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/business/economy/costco-curbs-skateboarding-genx.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
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LOVE your take on that @Sedition.
(https://i.postimg.cc/yY3g0NJ8/IMG-6837.png) (https://postimg.cc/RN9ZB4Qk)
Feeble old man.
Danke, and great pic.
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Got a new Krooked deck yesterday. This is the top graphic on it:
(https://i.ibb.co/zHby4W0h/01.png)
These sentiments do not align with my current "old guy" skating reality, so I "fixed" it.
(https://i.ibb.co/Qvdw5F9B/02.png)
Ha yeah, I got the latest Manderson board for someone with that on the top. Don't know if it was just that board or others in the new drop, but it made a few people laugh when I showed them.
That is a good change up too!
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Got a new Krooked deck yesterday. This is the top graphic on it:
(https://i.ibb.co/zHby4W0h/01.png)
These sentiments do not align with my current "old guy" skating reality, so I "fixed" it.
(https://i.ibb.co/Qvdw5F9B/02.png)
Ha yeah, I got the latest Manderson board for someone with that on the top. Don't know if it was just that board or others in the new drop, but it made a few people laugh when I showed them.
That is a good change up too!
This was on the 9.81 shaped deck.
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This is a decent old-guy article. Can read it for free on NYT app.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/business/economy/costco-curbs-skateboarding-genx.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
Just came here to post this. Not surprised you beat me to it.
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LOVE your take on that @Sedition.
(https://i.postimg.cc/yY3g0NJ8/IMG-6837.png) (https://postimg.cc/RN9ZB4Qk)
Feeble old man.
Danke, and great pic.
Thanks. Btw wtf is happening that there is a NYT article about old men and curbs?! Neither should be considered cool enough for rags to be writing about.
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LOVE your take on that @Sedition.
(https://i.postimg.cc/yY3g0NJ8/IMG-6837.png) (https://postimg.cc/RN9ZB4Qk)
Feeble old man.
Danke, and great pic.
Thanks. Btw wtf is happening that there is a NYT article about old men and curbs?! Neither should be considered cool enough for rags to be writing about.
By the time NYT catches on, the trend is long over. Everyone in this article probably died years ago.
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it wants me to pay for access so I have read the NYT article.
I am almost 2 weeks skateboard free, not by design but weather and vacation I have a consult with an Ortho Monday.
And I might need to get my hand x-ray'd soon, might have done bad things to my scaffold. But that is a problem for another day
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it wants me to pay for access so I have read the NYT article.
Can read it for free on NYT app.
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it wants me to pay for access so I have read the NYT article.
Can read it for free on NYT app.
Thanks!!
Updates: surgery consult Monday, calling to get in and get an x-ray referral for my left wrist, hitting the parks later today. Upgrading to the 187 Killer Pads Derby Wrist Guards, and for the first time in my life I need a shoe rack!
Crossposting a bit:
I am slowly transitioning from madness to stability.
Have a deck shape/size that works well, but also have one more shape/size inbound to test.
Trucks down to two - Thunder T2 / Ace AF1
Wheels - Bones X99
Bearings - Fireball Supply Built
Grip - was set on Pepper, but with some of my shoes my foot is too locked in, going to try Jessup/Jessup Ultra - (low key been liking some FKD)
Bushings have been my deepest dive recently but have them sorted for the T2 (Mini Logo Med boardside / Bones Hardcore Hard Roadside)
Working fine tuning the the Ace, the combo above works, but I still get a squirrelly when I squat at speed
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Upgrading to the 187 Killer Pads Derby Wrist Guards, and for the first time in my life I need a shoe rack!
FYI, The 187 PRO wrist guards are where it's really at if your looking for wrist guards. They basically stole this design from Wild Bill (Pro-Designed Pads) after he died (pretty shady, IMHO), and those were widely known as the best wrist guards made. Now 187 is making their version of Bill's.
Also, someone really needs to reproduce Bill's elbow pads, because they were incredible.
https://187killerpads.com/collections/wristguards/products/pro-wrist-guard?variant=45592617353356
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Upgrading to the 187 Killer Pads Derby Wrist Guards, and for the first time in my life I need a shoe rack!
FYI, The 187 PRO wrist guards are where it's really at if your looking for wrist guards. They basically stole this design from Wild Bill (Pro-Designed Pads) after he died (pretty shady, IMHO), and those were widely known as the best wrist guards made. Now 187 is making their version of Bill's.
Also, someone really needs to reproduce Bill's elbow pads, because they were incredible.
https://187killerpads.com/collections/wristguards/products/pro-wrist-guard?variant=45592617353356
Just switch wrist guards!
Appt to see my provider to get the x-ray refferal is on Wednesday...damn i hate being old!
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Just switch wrist guards!
Appt to see my provider to get the x-ray refferal is on Wednesday...damn i hate being old!
Word.
Hear you on the being old thing. I just cracked a rib last week. Got in a fight with curb. The curb won. It's not a super bad break, but enough to bother me a bit in daily life (esp. sleeping...I toss and turn a lot, and that shit hurts), and is also going to prevent me going even medium-hard on the board for quite awhile (e.g. fast twists, jolts, hard run-outs, falling, etc. are all bad). I've been skating a few times since it happened, but it's all going to be super mellow shit for 4-8 weeks. Right as the weather finally gets nice, too! I think the Polarizer is about to see some serious action.
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It’s a little embarrassing but 53 and I don’t really know gear specs at all. Like I never remember what kind of tape I use I always have to ask the guys at the shop. What do I use? No idea what will they have? I have to ask the guys to the shop or what size wheels and I just have no idea.
I mean, I know in general I skate 8 to 8 1/4 and 5254 wheels but beyond that I don’t really know anything
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It’s a little embarrassing but 53 and I don’t really know gear specs at all. Like I never remember what kind of tape I use I always have to ask the guys at the shop. What do I use? No idea what will they have? I have to ask the guys to the shop or what size wheels and I just have no idea.
I mean, I know in general I skate 8 to 8 1/4 and 5254 wheels but beyond that I don’t really know anything
I kinda love this. There’s something liberating in not thinking about it too much.
I remember when I first started asking one of the better guys at the park if I should switch out my bushings. He was just like “it doesn’t matter, dude,” and showed me his trucks. The bushings were completely blown out.
All I know is my busted knees are waaay happier on a longer wheelbase.
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Appt to see my provider to get the x-ray refferal is on Wednesday...damn i hate being old!
Word.
Hear you on the being old thing. I just cracked a rib last week. Got in a fight with curb. The curb won. It's not a super bad break, but enough to bother me a bit in daily life (esp. sleeping...I toss and turn a lot, and that shit hurts), and is also going to prevent me going even medium-hard on the board for quite awhile (e.g. fast twists, jolts, hard run-outs, falling, etc. are all bad). I've been skating a few times since it happened, but it's all going to be super mellow shit for 4-8 weeks. Right as the weather finally gets nice, too! I think the Polarizer is about to see some serious action.
Damn, that sucks! When curbs bite they bite hard. Hope you recover quickly man!
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Just switch wrist guards!
Appt to see my provider to get the x-ray refferal is on Wednesday...damn i hate being old!
Word.
Hear you on the being old thing. I just cracked a rib last week. Got in a fight with curb. The curb won. It's not a super bad break, but enough to bother me a bit in daily life (esp. sleeping...I toss and turn a lot, and that shit hurts), and is also going to prevent me going even medium-hard on the board for quite awhile (e.g. fast twists, jolts, hard run-outs, falling, etc. are all bad). I've been skating a few times since it happened, but it's all going to be super mellow shit for 4-8 weeks. Right as the weather finally gets nice, too! I think the Polarizer is about to see some serious action.
Get well soon
At 52 I don’t bounce back as fast. But I am gym rat too so that helps, but I can’t lift with my wrist right now.
Took one decent tumble yesterday, it was the slowest fall off a manny pad in skating history
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Just switch wrist guards!
Appt to see my provider to get the x-ray refferal is on Wednesday...damn i hate being old!
Word.
Hear you on the being old thing. I just cracked a rib last week. Got in a fight with curb. The curb won. It's not a super bad break, but enough to bother me a bit in daily life (esp. sleeping...I toss and turn a lot, and that shit hurts), and is also going to prevent me going even medium-hard on the board for quite awhile (e.g. fast twists, jolts, hard run-outs, falling, etc. are all bad). I've been skating a few times since it happened, but it's all going to be super mellow shit for 4-8 weeks. Right as the weather finally gets nice, too! I think the Polarizer is about to see some serious action.
Cracked ribs suck. sneezing, farting, whipping your butt, coughing… all become painful
Wishing you a speedy recovery
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Ortho update:
Definite tear in the lateral meniscus, but Doc says if I feel good to skate, keep skating, unless I take a spill that would have hurt my knee anyway, I am in no current danger. Did say a knee sleave would not be a bad idea, so I will get one I guess. Going to set up some PT, and Doc said unless the pain gets worse, or I have issue with mobility, I don't need to go back to them for anything.
Now to see what is up with my wrist on Wed.
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Just switch wrist guards!
Appt to see my provider to get the x-ray refferal is on Wednesday...damn i hate being old!
Word.
Hear you on the being old thing. I just cracked a rib last week. Got in a fight with curb. The curb won. It's not a super bad break, but enough to bother me a bit in daily life (esp. sleeping...I toss and turn a lot, and that shit hurts), and is also going to prevent me going even medium-hard on the board for quite awhile (e.g. fast twists, jolts, hard run-outs, falling, etc. are all bad). I've been skating a few times since it happened, but it's all going to be super mellow shit for 4-8 weeks. Right as the weather finally gets nice, too! I think the Polarizer is about to see some serious action.
Cracked ribs suck. sneezing, farting, whipping your butt, coughing… all become painful
Wishing you a speedy recovery
Damn those are rough @Sedition and not a damn thing you can do about it until it’s mended. Sounds like you’ve been in the rib club as well @Sleazy.
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Appt to see my provider to get the x-ray refferal is on Wednesday...damn i hate being old!
Word.
Hear you on the being old thing. I just cracked a rib last week. Got in a fight with curb. The curb won. It's not a super bad break, but enough to bother me a bit in daily life (esp. sleeping...I toss and turn a lot, and that shit hurts), and is also going to prevent me going even medium-hard on the board for quite awhile (e.g. fast twists, jolts, hard run-outs, falling, etc. are all bad). I've been skating a few times since it happened, but it's all going to be super mellow shit for 4-8 weeks. Right as the weather finally gets nice, too! I think the Polarizer is about to see some serious action.
Cracked ribs suck. sneezing, farting, whipping your butt, coughing… all become painful
Wishing you a speedy recovery
It seems like it is often the most simple slips or just a misfortunate half a second off balance that brings on the rib bashing, but it can easily happen at any time, especially when my arm got pinned under me at an odd angle and cracked a rib or two.
Can't remember if it was the same side, but I know I had done it twice over the years, both from the most simple slip ups - one on a curb and another on a half pipe. Then the joy of taking a deep breath or even just eating a little too much in one meal and damn you really know about it.
Good times!!!
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Just switch wrist guards!
Appt to see my provider to get the x-ray refferal is on Wednesday...damn i hate being old!
Word.
Hear you on the being old thing. I just cracked a rib last week. Got in a fight with curb. The curb won. It's not a super bad break, but enough to bother me a bit in daily life (esp. sleeping...I toss and turn a lot, and that shit hurts), and is also going to prevent me going even medium-hard on the board for quite awhile (e.g. fast twists, jolts, hard run-outs, falling, etc. are all bad). I've been skating a few times since it happened, but it's all going to be super mellow shit for 4-8 weeks. Right as the weather finally gets nice, too! I think the Polarizer is about to see some serious action.
Cracked ribs suck. sneezing, farting, whipping your butt, coughing… all become painful
Wishing you a speedy recovery
cracked ribs when i was around 17. i tried to do a blunt fakie on a small launch ramp and it flip over from the weight of me going into blunt position and i fell back onto the ramp which was no standing straight up on my ribs. one of the most painful injuries of that era of my skating. took months to recover and there's nothing you can do about it but suffer through it.
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Ortho update:
Definite tear in the lateral meniscus, but Doc says if I feel good to skate, keep skating, unless I take a spill that would have hurt my knee anyway, I am in no current danger. Did say a knee sleave would not be a bad idea, so I will get one I guess. Going to set up some PT, and Doc said unless the pain gets worse, or I have issue with mobility, I don't need to go back to them for anything.
Now to see what is up with my wrist on Wed.
So, that's relatively good news then???
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Just switch wrist guards!
Appt to see my provider to get the x-ray refferal is on Wednesday...damn i hate being old!
Word.
Hear you on the being old thing. I just cracked a rib last week. Got in a fight with curb. The curb won. It's not a super bad break, but enough to bother me a bit in daily life (esp. sleeping...I toss and turn a lot, and that shit hurts), and is also going to prevent me going even medium-hard on the board for quite awhile (e.g. fast twists, jolts, hard run-outs, falling, etc. are all bad). I've been skating a few times since it happened, but it's all going to be super mellow shit for 4-8 weeks. Right as the weather finally gets nice, too! I think the Polarizer is about to see some serious action.
Cracked ribs suck. sneezing, farting, whipping your butt, coughing… all become painful
Wishing you a speedy recovery
It seems like it is often the most simple slips or just a misfortunate half a second off balance that brings on the rib bashing, but it can easily happen at any time, especially when my arm got pinned under me at an odd angle and cracked a rib or two.
Can't remember if it was the same side, but I know I had done it twice over the years, both from the most simple slip ups - one on a curb and another on a half pipe. Then the joy of taking a deep breath or even just eating a little too much in one meal and damn you really know about it.
Good times!!!
I wear a fwd elbow about 90% of the time I step on a skateboard. I always assumed then when I broke a rib, it would be from a tuck and roll type thing where my elbow (pad) went too hard into my ribs. But ttat's not what happened.
I was skating this 5" tall curb / ledge thingy at my local park. I was doing b/s 180 to fakie 50-50 grinds, and doing a little fakie ollies out of it, before coming to the end of the ledge. I decided to wanted to fakie ollie straight off the very end (e.g. like nose grinding off the end). I tried a few, but wasn't going fast enough to really clear my rear (front truck). So, I came in really hot on the next attempt. I ollied too much, over-shot the grind, and landed with all four wheels on top of the ledge. Board shoots out, I immediately go horizontal, and then land with my ribs right on the angle iron / edge. Fun. Game over.
It's kind of weird, too. Over the last two weeks before this happened, I had SEVERAL really close calls going to rib-to-coping on transition when something slipped out. It was sort of like a rib injury was "in the air" but just hadn't managed to manifest yet...until it did.
All of this actually ties directly into Madness thread in an odd way. I follow-up over there on it tomorrow some time.
Thanks for the well-wishes everyone.
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Just switch wrist guards!
Appt to see my provider to get the x-ray refferal is on Wednesday...damn i hate being old!
Word.
Hear you on the being old thing. I just cracked a rib last week. Got in a fight with curb. The curb won. It's not a super bad break, but enough to bother me a bit in daily life (esp. sleeping...I toss and turn a lot, and that shit hurts), and is also going to prevent me going even medium-hard on the board for quite awhile (e.g. fast twists, jolts, hard run-outs, falling, etc. are all bad). I've been skating a few times since it happened, but it's all going to be super mellow shit for 4-8 weeks. Right as the weather finally gets nice, too! I think the Polarizer is about to see some serious action.
Cracked ribs suck. sneezing, farting, whipping your butt, coughing… all become painful
Wishing you a speedy recovery
cracked ribs when i was around 17. i tried to do a blunt fakie on a small launch ramp and it flip over from the weight of me going into blunt position and i fell back onto the ramp which was no standing straight up on my ribs. one of the most painful injuries of that era of my skating. took months to recover and there's nothing you can do about it but suffer through it.
Brutal.
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Definite tear in the lateral meniscus, but Doc says if I feel good to skate, keep skating, unless I take a spill that would have hurt my knee anyway, I am in no current danger. Did say a knee sleave would not be a bad idea, so I will get one I guess. Going to set up some PT, and Doc said unless the pain gets worse, or I have issue with mobility, I don't need to go back to them for anything.
Now to see what is up with my wrist on Wed.
So, that's relatively good news then???
100%
Doc said don't call back until I need too, searching out knee sleeves with the soft side supports/stays
They did all the strength and ROM test and I passed at 100%
Short version is I have tear that is like a hangnail, so a little flap, was told that as long as I have strength and mobility I am good to go, if it starts locking or buckling or the pain gets to much that I can't manage it with OTC pain meds, then I need to have it re-examined.
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Appt to see my provider to get the x-ray refferal is on Wednesday...damn i hate being old!
Word.
Hear you on the being old thing. I just cracked a rib last week. Got in a fight with curb. The curb won. It's not a super bad break, but enough to bother me a bit in daily life (esp. sleeping...I toss and turn a lot, and that shit hurts), and is also going to prevent me going even medium-hard on the board for quite awhile (e.g. fast twists, jolts, hard run-outs, falling, etc. are all bad). I've been skating a few times since it happened, but it's all going to be super mellow shit for 4-8 weeks. Right as the weather finally gets nice, too! I think the Polarizer is about to see some serious action.
Cracked ribs suck. sneezing, farting, whipping your butt, coughing… all become painful
Wishing you a speedy recovery
It seems like it is often the most simple slips or just a misfortunate half a second off balance that brings on the rib bashing, but it can easily happen at any time, especially when my arm got pinned under me at an odd angle and cracked a rib or two.
Can't remember if it was the same side, but I know I had done it twice over the years, both from the most simple slip ups - one on a curb and another on a half pipe. Then the joy of taking a deep breath or even just eating a little too much in one meal and damn you really know about it.
Good times!!!
I wear a fwd elbow about 90% of the time I step on a skateboard. I always assumed then when I broke a rib, it would be from a tuck and roll type thing where my elbow (pad) went too hard into my ribs. But ttat's not what happened.
I was skating this 5" tall curb / ledge thingy at my local park. I was doing b/s 180 to fakie 50-50 grinds, and doing a little fakie ollies out of it, before coming to the end of the ledge. I decided to wanted to fakie ollie straight off the very end (e.g. like nose grinding off the end). I tried a few, but wasn't going fast enough to really clear my rear (front truck). So, I came in really hot on the next attempt. I ollied too much, over-shot the grind, and landed with all four wheels on top of the ledge. Board shoots out, I immediately go horizontal, and then land with my ribs right on the angle iron / edge. Fun. Game over.
It's kind of weird, too. Over the last two weeks before this happened, I had SEVERAL really close calls going to rib-to-coping on transition when something slipped out. It was sort of like a rib injury was "in the air" but just hadn't managed to manifest yet...until it did.
All of this actually ties directly into Madness thread in an odd way. I follow-up over there on it tomorrow some time.
Thanks for the well-wishes everyone.
The only time I broke ribs skating i was about 16. Front BS on a round bar about 2 feet off the ground, damn I miss having the pop for those, anyway, I had hit this rail many many times, it was on the way home from my buddies house. Anyway, got ahead of my board and slipped out and hit the rail full on the right side, I sear my shoulders and feet hit the ground on opposite sides of the rail, then skated 2 miles home...good times
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...searching out knee sleeves with the soft side supports/stays
Check Old Bones options.
https://tinyurl.com/59axadh7
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...searching out knee sleeves with the soft side supports/stays
Check Old Bones options.
https://tinyurl.com/59axadh7
Was the first one I checked, but it is out of stock in my size.
Looking at this one Amazon Link (https://www.amazon.com/NEENCA-Cricket-Batting-Covers-Sleeve/dp/B0C2GMZTX4/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=2uxS3&content-id=amzn1.sym.9a73953b-73af-421d-a291-58426a20fd18&pf_rd_p=9a73953b-73af-421d-a291-58426a20fd18&pf_rd_r=X8HAMMC5JCNK1DTP01GW&pd_rd_wg=5UgcS&pd_rd_r=ce99b0a8-f1a0-49f4-892f-e8bcc949b256&ref_=pd_hp_d_r_btf_dealz_m1_hw_t1_hxwDSD_sspa_dk_gateway&ie=UTF8&sloctc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9ob21lcGFnZV9ibGVuZGVk&th=1)
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After constantly swapping out cheap, drug store and amazon knee sleeves every few months, I tried out the old bones compression sleeve. It's lasted me over a year so far, still fits nicely and isn't stretched out much at all.
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Yeah, I am looking at the one with the springs in it, not sure if I need that level of support
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Appt to see my provider to get the x-ray refferal is on Wednesday...damn i hate being old!
Word.
Hear you on the being old thing. I just cracked a rib last week. Got in a fight with curb. The curb won. It's not a super bad break, but enough to bother me a bit in daily life (esp. sleeping...I toss and turn a lot, and that shit hurts), and is also going to prevent me going even medium-hard on the board for quite awhile (e.g. fast twists, jolts, hard run-outs, falling, etc. are all bad). I've been skating a few times since it happened, but it's all going to be super mellow shit for 4-8 weeks. Right as the weather finally gets nice, too! I think the Polarizer is about to see some serious action.
Cracked ribs suck. sneezing, farting, whipping your butt, coughing… all become painful
Wishing you a speedy recovery
cracked ribs when i was around 17. i tried to do a blunt fakie on a small launch ramp and it flip over from the weight of me going into blunt position and i fell back onto the ramp which was no standing straight up on my ribs. one of the most painful injuries of that era of my skating. took months to recover and there's nothing you can do about it but suffer through it.
Man that sucks! Bet that was an adrenaline rush getting a hundred or so pound on your chest in an instant. Cracked one on the mini on a failed tail stall. Was trying to learn feeble fakies and was super close but not committing. Was intently starting at the other lip and thinking about how I was going to land it went to go to tail but wasn’t looking or thinking so just got the tip on(phrasing!) and slipped out right to my side. The next month sucked(blue collar body shop slug so I’m bent, squatting, or under cars 99% of the day) to say the least.
@DNTRODDEN @Sedition glad to hear you can both roll around some and hope you both heal quickly.
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Appt to see my provider to get the x-ray refferal is on Wednesday...damn i hate being old!
Word.
Hear you on the being old thing. I just cracked a rib last week. Got in a fight with curb. The curb won. It's not a super bad break, but enough to bother me a bit in daily life (esp. sleeping...I toss and turn a lot, and that shit hurts), and is also going to prevent me going even medium-hard on the board for quite awhile (e.g. fast twists, jolts, hard run-outs, falling, etc. are all bad). I've been skating a few times since it happened, but it's all going to be super mellow shit for 4-8 weeks. Right as the weather finally gets nice, too! I think the Polarizer is about to see some serious action.
Cracked ribs suck. sneezing, farting, whipping your butt, coughing… all become painful
Wishing you a speedy recovery
cracked ribs when i was around 17. i tried to do a blunt fakie on a small launch ramp and it flip over from the weight of me going into blunt position and i fell back onto the ramp which was no standing straight up on my ribs. one of the most painful injuries of that era of my skating. took months to recover and there's nothing you can do about it but suffer through it.
Man that sucks! Bet that was an adrenaline rush getting a hundred or so pound on your chest in an instant. Cracked one on the mini on a failed tail stall. Was trying to learn feeble fakies and was super close but not committing. Was intently starting at the other lip and thinking about how I was going to land it went to go to tail but wasn’t looking or thinking so just got the tip on(phrasing!) and slipped out right to my side. The next month sucked(blue collar body shop slug so I’m bent, squatting, or under cars 99% of the day) to say the least.
@DNTRODDEN @Sedition glad to hear you can both roll around some and hope you both heal quickly.
@Plan9Customs I hadn't even thought about going from ribs to coping. Now I probably won't be able to not think about it. I was trying to learn switch blunts recently, and I feel like I could easily slip out and land on my ribs.
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Just switch wrist guards!
Appt to see my provider to get the x-ray refferal is on Wednesday...damn i hate being old!
Word.
Hear you on the being old thing. I just cracked a rib last week. Got in a fight with curb. The curb won. It's not a super bad break, but enough to bother me a bit in daily life (esp. sleeping...I toss and turn a lot, and that shit hurts), and is also going to prevent me going even medium-hard on the board for quite awhile (e.g. fast twists, jolts, hard run-outs, falling, etc. are all bad). I've been skating a few times since it happened, but it's all going to be super mellow shit for 4-8 weeks. Right as the weather finally gets nice, too! I think the Polarizer is about to see some serious action.
Cracked ribs suck. sneezing, farting, whipping your butt, coughing… all become painful
Wishing you a speedy recovery
cracked ribs when i was around 17. i tried to do a blunt fakie on a small launch ramp and it flip over from the weight of me going into blunt position and i fell back onto the ramp which was no standing straight up on my ribs. one of the most painful injuries of that era of my skating. took months to recover and there's nothing you can do about it but suffer through it.
Man that sucks! Bet that was an adrenaline rush getting a hundred or so pound on your chest in an instant. Cracked one on the mini on a failed tail stall. Was trying to learn feeble fakies and was super close but not committing. Was intently starting at the other lip and thinking about how I was going to land it went to go to tail but wasn’t looking or thinking so just got the tip on(phrasing!) and slipped out right to my side. The next month sucked(blue collar body shop slug so I’m bent, squatting, or under cars 99% of the day) to say the least.
@DNTRODDEN @Sedition glad to hear you can both roll around some and hope you both heal quickly.
@Plan9Customs I hadn't even thought about going from ribs to coping. Now I probably won't be able to not think about it. I was trying to learn switch blunts recently, and I feel like I could easily slip out and land on my ribs.
Yeah, something about a round bar to the core seems off, lol, but really that shit hurts in a very unique way.
On a good note, my daughter is down for the day, I am going to try to teach her to film with my DJI Action cam
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After constantly swapping out cheap, drug store and amazon knee sleeves every few months, I tried out the old bones compression sleeve. It's lasted me over a year so far, still fits nicely and isn't stretched out much at all.
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...searching out knee sleeves with the soft side supports/stays
Check Old Bones options.
https://tinyurl.com/59axadh7
Going with the OBT, with the springs
About to order now.
New 187 Wrist guards should be here today
X-Ray showed noting broke in the wrist, but a good amount of degeneritirve damage that will be arthritis