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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: joedv on November 20, 2011, 11:25:40 AM
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Supposedly a new technology Real is making tested only so far for specific skateshops and their riders.
Anyone got any info on these yet?
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sounds interesting, could it have anything to do with this?
http://medicineagency.com/did-we-find-the-new-real-pro-deck-prototype/ (http://medicineagency.com/did-we-find-the-new-real-pro-deck-prototype/)
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No, since that article is from April 2010.
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yes, but Real hasn't released anything new as far as deck tech since then. looks like berrics has one and is going to do a review.
http://theberrics.com/news/custom-low-pro-decks-revealed.html (http://theberrics.com/news/custom-low-pro-decks-revealed.html)
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This must be some top secret next level shit.
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Companies try new things all the time; shapes, glues, whatever, and Real has regularly put out interesting skate "technologies" without getting too cheesy about it (Reazy-C being a perfect recent example). Some work, some don't, but if LowPro is worthy then you'll surely see it stamped on their decks soon enough.
Don't expect feedback though, anyone who has been allowed to try one has essentially sworn to secrecy about their experience with it, similar to an NDA when working in software, film, or any industry where an info leak can blur the lines of fair competition. If anyone who has tried a prototype posts on here that they love, like, hate, or provide any other such functional feedback, then they would be doing a serious disservice to DLX, so I wouldn't expect any qualitative feedback yet. If anyone does break the secrecy agreement, they deserve to be dragged into an alley and handled appropriately.
That being said, Real isn't known to release sub-par products. I have heard that their renewal decks aren't as good as their primary full-priced lines, but I've never tried a renewal so don't know myself. Point being, DLX knows their shit so if they move forward with it there's a reason for doing so.
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i dont know anything more then anyone. i was just figuring it was an improvment in someway on the easy-c thing.
a bunch of kids have been asking me if i have a more mellow concanve available. so thats probably something that is in right now?
so its low, cause its mellow, and its pro, cause it would be on pro named boards?
just my guess.. probably overthinking it.
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i dont know anything more then anyone. i was just figuring it was an improvment in someway on the easy-c thing.
a bunch of kids have been asking me if i have a more mellow concanve available. so thats probably something that is in right now?
so its low, cause its mellow, and its pro, cause it would be on pro named boards?
just my guess.. probably overthinking it.
I don't get the point of super mellow concave. It doesn't had to be insanely deep but I like to feel the concave when I'm riding.
I understand the Reazy-C because Real kind of had a rep for lots of concave, so they can satisfy both markets by having mellow and regular.
Anyone ever try the Consolidate "Black" concave when it was around? The boards were kind of weird looking because you could see concave on the nose and tail, but during my all-tranny-all-the-time phase I had a couple of those and loved them.
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This must be some top secret next level shit.
definitely some next level shit
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fuckin magnets
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Re: those top secret Real decks
Posted by: daykarerob (76.234.145.---)
Date: November 16, 2011 04:09PM
the new shape is got some camber to it like a snowboard. like the nose and tail would touch first if it's on the ground. I've got some coming. we'll see. apparently the teams been riding them for months so they have been tested.
from the dlx forum
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Re: those top secret Real decks
Posted by: daykarerob (76.234.145.---)
Date: November 16, 2011 04:09PM
the new shape is got some camber to it like a snowboard. like the nose and tail would touch first if it's on the ground. I've got some coming. we'll see. apparently the teams been riding them for months so they have been tested.
from the dlx forum
Is this supposed to make you pop higher since the nose and tail will be lower to the ground? I'm just wondering if that will make them more prone to breakage. it could be cool if it works like that though.
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thats like saying low trucks make you ollie higher.... no....
it all about how these curves and bends in the board provide a more rigid surface to pop off of.
this seems like the reverse of that thing they did a little bit ago... uhhh... fuck.... OH! rebound construction. thats it, i think...
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My local's got theirs too
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2n9eww9.jpg)
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My local's got theirs too
(http://i41.tinypic.com/2n9eww9.jpg)
Hell Yea. Metro!
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The Pro Line of Low Pros have been out for a bit at Socal Skateshop.
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The Pro Line of Low Pros have been out for a bit at Socal Skateshop.
That's pretty strange that those are for sale, anyone seen them anywhere else? Maybe the new ones are the "Lower" Pro... :p
My last deck was a test model, looked just like the Hardy Low Pro that's on the SoCal shop site, but it was definitely not an 8.5" board. More in the 8.06-8.18 range. Can't/won't say what I thought about skating it I will say that this talk about "camber like a snowboard" and uber flex... well they will be widely available soon enough so you'll see that when you grab it off of a shop wall nothing feels drastically abnormal about them to that degree. Whatever Real has done here isn't some kind of cheap gimmick. When you skate it... well, it's a DLX deck so you really have nothing to lose by trying it for yourself to see what you think.
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No one's posted this yet? Alll kinds of info from Real: http://www.realskateboards.com/lowpro/ (http://www.realskateboards.com/lowpro/)
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Real Low Pro Decks JT Ault (http://vimeo.com/32555556)
Pete & Dennis on Real Low Pro Construction (http://vimeo.com/32557111)
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Real Low Pro Decks JT Ault (http://vimeo.com/32555556)
This is so fucking gnarly.
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My local's got theirs too
Hell Yea. Metro!
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Pete & Dennis on Real Low Pro Construction (http://vimeo.com/32557111)
That graphic almost made me jizz.
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Real Low Pro Decks JT Ault (http://vimeo.com/32555556)
Pete & Dennis on Real Low Pro Construction (http://vimeo.com/32557111)
That's so crazy he nose mannied on that hubba. I imagine it would be hard to stay balanced up there.
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Pete & Dennis on Real Low Pro Construction (http://vimeo.com/32557111)
That graphic almost made me jizz.
Loving the tiedye! I'd make that my first Real if they release it to the public.
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they look interesting im waiting for a review or some shit so i can learn more about the technology. as far as im concerned there isnt anything out there thats gonna beat the P2 tech, but i still wanna find out what this is all about
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they look interesting im waiting for a review or some shit so i can learn more about the technology. as far as im concerned there isnt anything out there thats gonna beat the P2 tech, but i still wanna find out what this is all about
That P2 shit, in my opinion, is horrible. It never feels like your board is broken in. I like the feel of a board that's been in my trunk for a week or so, when it's not all brittle. Makes me feel like I can do any trick I'd want to.
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they look interesting im waiting for a review or some shit so i can learn more about the technology. as far as im concerned there isnt anything out there thats gonna beat the P2 tech, but i still wanna find out what this is all about
That P2 shit, in my opinion, is horrible. It never feels like your board is broken in. I like the feel of a board that's been in my trunk for a week or so, when it's not all brittle. Makes me feel like I can do any trick I'd want to.
did you actually own on or just tried out a friends or something? when i first got mine it took about an hour or 2 to get used to such a lightweight deck, but after that it was probably the best board ive ever ridden. shit was light as hell, strong, and it maintained its stiffness for weeks. it literally felt brand new after 7-8 sessions. theres alot of gimmicks in deck construction but to me p2's feel like an actual improvement on regular boards. this low-pro shit looks aiiight i might have to try em out if i see em at my shop. i fucks with real & they know what they're doing so hopefully these boards will be dope.
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Pete & Dennis on Real Low Pro Construction (http://vimeo.com/32557111)
That graphic almost made me jizz.
It's on their website as one of the upcoming models, but it's noted as an 8.5".
Mine (pictured below when new) is more like 8.06 and 8.18. I didn't like the graphic at first, it was bright and I don't dig tye-dye, but it grew on me. It's not quite so pretty now.
This is the first complete I built out of all new parts (bearings were a week old) in many years, I usually switch things out as needed but the timing just came together on this.
I've been switching out between Street Burners and Park Burners depending on what I plan to skate, but one thing about my current set-up that I'm super stoked on is SwissFire bearings. I usually ride Spitfire Burners and swear by their bearings, but I scored a new set of SwissFires for almost nothing and they have to be the smoothest bearings I've ever had, hands down. Also fast as shit right from the package with no additional lube, and completely quiet. I very highly recommend SwissFire bearings if anyone wants to go up to the higher-end stuff, w/o going over the top and spending a small fortune on Bones Swiss Ceramics or something.
As far as the board and Low Pro, nobody has anything to lose by buying one, that's all I'm saying right now.
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How much more do Low Pros cost than regular decks?
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so how does it compare to a helium board??????????
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that tie dye blows so hard
but i bet the 13 year olds eat it up
Actually, the only comments/compliments I got about it were from the 25+ crowd. People seem to like it and though it wouldn't be my first choice just because I prefer more subtle and usually darker colors, in the end it's just a graphic and I've seen much, much worse. The shape is amazing, I'd ride that board even if it was lime green with cartoon cocks all over it.
so how does it compare to a helium board??????????
Seriously? The "helium" boards just seem like another gimmick that might make a good sales pitch to inexperienced buyers, nothing more. I've heard a couple things: they lose their pop quickly and the ultra thin wood chips easily. I've never skated one and never will. Generally when I hear things like fiberglass, carbon fiber, and air pockets, I steer clear. The helium boards have all 3 of those things. The only carbon fiber type board I'd try is a P2, but wouldn't go out of my way to buy one and wouldn't pay more than the price of a good wooden deck. If you look at the Low Pro section on Real's website you'll see that Real's new construction isn't about reinventing the skateboard, it's about taking what we all know works (a well crafted wood deck) and making it better. No hollow chambers or aircraft aluminum BS. That's just how I interpret it though, I'm not a spokesperson nor am I an expert on the subject, just someone who has skated lot and lots of boards and seen countless "new technologies" come and go over the years, usually because they don't deliver.
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How much more do Low Pros cost than regular decks?
In the new TWS Buyer's Guide it lists the Low Pro Decks at $50. I'll definitely be grabbing one these when they hit my local shop since of all the positive reviews. DLX definitely knows how to market their product effectively.
I was assuming and hoping they'd be in the normal price range. Granted when you start custom milling thinner ply's and using better epoxies production cost can rise a little, and for a legitimately stronger and better quality board I would happily pay a few dollars more if need be, but it's not looking like that will be necessary.
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that tie dye blows so hard
but i bet the 13 year olds eat it up
I actually like that graphic, and Im not 13. But It woulda been better with just a plain color
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I'm tempted to put an end to my "only alien workshop" policy and try one of those...sounds like a no-bullshit technology.
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I'm tempted to put an end to my "only alien workshop" policy and try one of those...sounds like a no-bullshit technology.
No bullshit indeed. After trying one, I don't want to skate anything but Low Pro for the foreseeable future. Their claim "these boards are fucking good" is dead on and sums it up perfectly.
I do hope they come out with an Anti Hero line as well.
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Damn, that's a proper setup!
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If you put the board graphic down on a flat surface, is the only contact point the middle of the board? Or is the contact points at the front and back trucks and a gap in the middle?
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If you put the board graphic down on a flat surface, is the only contact point the middle of the board? Or is the contact points at the front and back trucks and a gap in the middle?
Dead center seems to be the lowest point, and it curves up slightly towards the trucks. Very subtle though, not enough to make it seem odd compared to most other boards. If you set it on a flat surface like you said, I'm guessing the nose and tail would each be raised about 1/8" at the point where they start curving upward. You can feel the quality construction holding the plain deck, but all of the features come together skating it. Basically, if you don't know how to do a 360 flip of course you won't immediately start landing them because you get a Low Pro board, but I did notice being able to land tricks I know more consistently, and even started doing some that I've lost over the years.
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If you put the board graphic down on a flat surface, is the only contact point the middle of the board? Or is the contact points at the front and back trucks and a gap in the middle?
Dead center seems to be the lowest point, and it curves up slightly towards the trucks. Very subtle though, not enough to make it seem odd compared to most other boards. If you set it on a flat surface like you said, I'm guessing the nose and tail would each be raised about 1/8" at the point where they start curving upward. You can feel the quality construction holding the plain deck, but all of the features come together skating it. Basically, if you don't know how to do a 360 flip of course you won't immediately start landing them because you get a Low Pro board, but I did notice being able to land tricks I know more consistently, and even started doing some that I've lost over the years.
New Deal had this style of construction back in 91. Justin Girard pinball girl had that rocker style concave.
For as long as I've been skating, aside from preference for concave and tail and nose steepness, deck technology construction just doesn't do anything ground breaking.
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If you put the board graphic down on a flat surface, is the only contact point the middle of the board? Or is the contact points at the front and back trucks and a gap in the middle?
Dead center seems to be the lowest point, and it curves up slightly towards the trucks. Very subtle though, not enough to make it seem odd compared to most other boards. If you set it on a flat surface like you said, I'm guessing the nose and tail would each be raised about 1/8" at the point where they start curving upward. You can feel the quality construction holding the plain deck, but all of the features come together skating it. Basically, if you don't know how to do a 360 flip of course you won't immediately start landing them because you get a Low Pro board, but I did notice being able to land tricks I know more consistently, and even started doing some that I've lost over the years.
New Deal had this style of construction back in 91. Justin Girard pinball girl had that rocker style concave.
For as long as I've been skating, aside from preference for concave and tail and nose steepness, deck technology construction just doesn't do anything ground breaking.
I have trucks on the board so answer your 1st question I just put a small wooden rod in the middle and noticed it didn't touch the nose/tail area, left about 1/8" gap. Not the most scientific test. I agree with your comment about not much being groundbreaking, and depending on what people expect this may or may not be the case here. Is it better though? I think so. I like to use 1031 as an example when it comes to proper construction. Their non-budget boards are based on a simple concept: high quality wood, high quality glue, and good shapes. The result is that they have some of the best boards on the market. Again, just my opinion.
Where I think Real mostly went right here is with the combination of methodologies. They already made pretty damned good boards, I've had a ton of Real and AH decks and have liked them all, but they took the center press method (used in '91 or not it's a different ball game on modern decks), re-worked the concave, applied a higher grade epoxy, and thinned out the ply's. The boards are definitely springy, stiff with just enough flexibility, they're light, and super responsive. Like I said before, these boards might not be groundbreaking in the sense that they automatically make people better at skateboarding, but being strong, light, with great pop (and pop retention), I think this combination of features gives you more for your money than any other comparable board. I can only speak from my experience. I'm picky about boards, only ride from certain wood shops, and have never cared to try a board made from anything but straight plywood. If you buy a Low Pro expecting it make you 10x better, you might be let down. If you're realistic and just expect it to skate well, then you'll probably get what you expect out of it. Regardless of what claims they make about the technology, I knew after a few minutes of skating that it is easily one of my favorite boards that I've ever owned. Hate! mentioned in his review that after several weeks of skating 3-4 times/week it still has a good crisp pop, that alone is reason to give them a shot. Fuck, if you're not paying a ton extra for it then you have nothing to lose by checking one out for yourself. What you won't get is something that looks or feels awkward because they tried too hard to make a super board, but you will get some high quality shit.
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If you put the board graphic down on a flat surface, is the only contact point the middle of the board? ? Or is the contact points at the front and back trucks and a gap in the middle?
Dead center seems to be the lowest point, and it curves up slightly towards the trucks. Very subtle though, not enough to make it seem odd compared to most other boards. If you set it on a flat surface like you said, I'm guessing the nose and tail would each be raised about 1/8" at the point where they start curving upward. ? You can feel the quality construction holding the plain deck, but all of the features come together skating it. Basically, if you don't know how to do a 360 flip of course you won't immediately start landing them because you get a Low Pro board, but I did notice being able to land tricks I know more consistently, and even started doing some that I've lost over the years.
New Deal had this style of construction back in 91. ? Justin Girard pinball girl had that rocker style concave.
For as long as I've been skating, aside from preference for concave and tail and nose steepness, deck technology construction just doesn't do anything ground breaking.
I have trucks on the board so answer your 1st question I just put a small wooden rod in the middle and noticed it didn't touch the nose/tail area, left about 1/8" gap. Not the most scientific test. I agree with your comment about not much being groundbreaking, and depending on what people expect this may or may not be the case here. Is it better though? I think so. I like to use 1031 as an example when it comes to proper construction. Their non-budget boards are based on a simple concept: high quality wood, high quality glue, and good shapes. The result is that they have some of the best boards on the market. Again, just my opinion.
Where I think Real mostly went right here is with the combination of methodologies. They already made pretty damned good boards, I've had a ton of Real and AH decks and have liked them all, but they took the center press method (used in '91 or not it's a different ball game on modern decks), re-worked the concave, applied a higher grade epoxy, and thinned out the ply's. The boards are definitely springy, stiff with just enough flexibility, they're light, and super responsive. Like I said before, these boards might not be groundbreaking in the sense that they automatically make people better at skateboarding, but being strong, light, with great pop (and pop retention), I think this combination of features gives you more for your money than any other comparable board. I can only speak from my experience. I'm picky about boards, only ride from certain wood shops, and have never cared to try a board made from anything but straight plywood. If you buy a Low Pro expecting it make you 10x better, you might be let down. If you're realistic and just expect it to skate well, then you'll probably get what you expect out of it. Regardless of what claims they make about the technology, I knew after a few minutes of skating that it is easily one of my favorite boards that I've ever owned. Hate! mentioned in his review that after several weeks of skating 3-4 times/week it still has a good crisp pop, that alone is reason to give them a shot. Fuck, if you're not paying a ton extra for it then you have nothing to lose by checking one out for yourself. What you won't get is something that looks or feels awkward because they tried too hard to make a super board, but you will get some high quality shit.
you can probably stop posting about this now. it's nice to know that both the guys that got sent a free board from their favourite company like the free board their favourite company sent them but not really useful information to base a buying decision on.
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verbal diarrhea much?
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Anyone know when these are gonna be available online?
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They are
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Where?
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Where?
I saw the JT Aultz nose manny commercial noted as part of the January 2012 ad campaign so 1/12 is a fair guess. I haven't seen the street date officially announced though so it may be sooner, but I doubt it would be any later.
Maybe the guy was referring to the SoCal shop link that was posted a while back, which is the only place I've seen them listed for sale. At the time that they were posted on that site though the line had barely been announced so I have no idea what's up with that, all of the other retailers I've looked at don't have them posted, and I haven't seen them in any distributor catalogs so it looks like they should still be unavailable to the public.
You can try ordering one from this link and see what happens, I'm curious to know if you can actually get one right now.
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?m=&c=263&l=product_list&sortby=id:desc (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?m=&c=263&l=product_list&sortby=id:desc)
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Last email i got from deluxe said they were available now.
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That socal link is sold out.
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That socal link is sold out.
b.v. is right, per the guys at Real this is the only online source right now. Some shops have them as well, my local is working on trying to get some in ASAP. Any reason you're looking online? No local shop? Of course that's always the better way to go.
http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Real_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKREAL.html (http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Real_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKREAL.html)
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That socal link is sold out.
b.v. is right, per the guys at Real this is the only online source right now. Some shops have them as well, my local is working on trying to get some in ASAP. Any reason you're looking online? No local shop? Of course that's always the better way to go.
http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Real_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKREAL.html (http://www.skatewarehouse.com/Real_Skateboard_Decks/catpage-DKREAL.html)
I'm gonna be getting it during the holidays when I'm at my parents', and there's no shops there.
Well, there's ONE shop, but frankly I'd rather support CCS then those assholes. It's not even a skateshop, really. Just a couple dumb wiggers that sell skateboards.