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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Tim_Smith on March 22, 2012, 03:28:29 PM
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Didn't see this anywhere yet but if there's already a thread then go ahead and delete this one.
http://espn.go.com/action/skateboarding/blog/_/post/7661462/appleyard-sacred-street-footage (http://espn.go.com/action/skateboarding/blog/_/post/7661462/appleyard-sacred-street-footage)
Berra talks about how he wants to do away with physical videos, unless they're online skatepark montages for free or online street parts that you have to pay for. Kind of a bummer to be honest. Obviously dvds/etc. will still be around, but the skateboard industry is moving in this direction already.
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meh.
If you're marginally tech-savy, you can just burn your own disc, if that's your thing.
And we don't have to waste plastic, paper, and whatever else goes in to making, packing, and distributing DVDs.
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God's gift to skateboarding strikes again.
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i despise the phrase "street part". what's next? bowl parts? alleyway parts? hill parts? grassride parts? night parts? day parts? i do agree though, that the person skating should be the one that actually makes the money as opposed to apple etc. i'm sure there will be some mix-up or arguments between pros and companies about this solo approach to videos somewhere down the road though.
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Damn, i hate trying to watch videos on my slow ass computer.
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"Our philosophy is that Berrics footage, inside our skatepark, should always be free. Street footage, however, should never be."
Get that money Berra.
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Where's daskateboard d00d? I heard he's berra in that one thread about himself.
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He's such a douche for having the attitude like they are so forward in their thinking about the future of distributing skateboarding through the internet and doing away with physical copies. The fact is there is nothing new about this form of distributing media and it was only natural for all forms of media to move away from physical and go towards digital. I won't be surprised when skate videos start streaming on Netflix and Hulu (if they don't already?). Physical distribution of media is never going to go away completely but this was already the next step for everyone, inside and out of the skate industry.
Also, I like how he just doesn't admit that a street part should never be free because he's a money hungry piece of shit who can't cut it in skateboarding anymore without feeding off of other people's talent and plastic benches.
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i despise the phrase "street part". what's next? bowl parts? alleyway parts? hill parts? grassride parts? night parts? day parts? i do agree though, that the person skating should be the one that actually makes the money as opposed to apple etc. i'm sure there will be some mix-up or arguments between pros and companies about this solo approach to videos somewhere down the road though.
this!
side note, Berra believes they should premiere parts with actual footage on a website that does "exclusive" premieres for parts filmed in his skatepark of scientology. No Berra, I could really care less about the next cookie cuter skater to film a part inside in the dark...
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I miss bringing skate flicks over to a buds house before shredding.
Now we have to crowd around some stinky skateboarder and watch a web clip over his shoulder.
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I miss bringing skate flicks over to a buds house before shredding.
Now we have to crowd around some stinky skateboarder and watch a web clip over his shoulder.
This. So much this.
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I miss bringing skate flicks over to a buds house before shredding.
Now we have to crowd around some stinky skateboarder and watch a web clip over his shoulder.
This. So much this.
apple tv or http://lmgtfy.com/?q=computer+to+tv+chord (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=computer+to+tv+chord) .
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I miss bringing skate flicks over to a buds house before shredding.
Now we have to crowd around some stinky skateboarder and watch a web clip over his shoulder.
This. �So much this.
apple tv or http://lmgtfy.com/?q=computer+to+tv+chord (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=computer+to+tv+chord) .
Yeah I hook my computer up to the tv to watch a lot of things. That's not what I'm talking about though. Talkin about a new video that just came out and your buddy has it and brings it over to watch before we go skate and it gets us hyped as fuck. Or that old video that you have that always gets you hyped to skate that you bring to your buddies that he doesn't have. You know what I'm talking about. It was fun, it doesn't happen much anymore.
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Appleyard will make 100 percent of the profit on the digital downloads...
^Somehow, I doubt that. Steve can't let him take it all, he's still so poor from all his bills and lack of money ::)
On the topic of paying for videos, I'm fine with that. Paying for a single video part? Really? I hate how much Berra hits on how important it is that the skater never just release a part for free. I understand being rewarded for your efforts, but isn't that why pros get paid for what they do? It's part of the job description. If the part gets people hyped, they buy that dude's boards, and dude earns his money.
They're getting pros to release full street video parts online so that they can catch up to our web traffic. It makes no sense.
Actually, other sites release videos/parts for free because they aren't constantly trying to make money off their viewers. They're just trying to share quality skateboarding with the general public. Get your dick out of your mouth and stop thinking that everyone is trying to keep up with you.
Street parts are far too sacred to be releasing them for free online -- that's the bottom line.
They're so sacred that nobody should ever have a hard copy of them? That's the best part of owning skate videos... being able to hold them in your hands and put them in the vcr, dvd player, etc. Any time someone uses phrases like "that's the bottom line" or "the fact of the matter is" clearly shows they have nothing else to back up what they're saying and are declaring their opinion a fact.
Every time I hear or read something new about Berra it always involves him justifying charging people for everything. I'm sure it's a matter of time before you have to "donate" to the berrics to even have full access to the site. And like someone else said, I hate how he acts like he's so far ahead of people and being different.
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people should have the choice, but i get that companies don't want to sink money into full length videos if they aren't seeing anything more back than if they released it online part by part. if they do release parts online, especially if you are paying, there should be a raw uncompressed .iso file or whatever. burn it yourself and take it to your friends house. no one is forcing you to watch these things online. i think some people may be bummed on everyone seeing everything at the same time at their own house/computers, instead of everyone watching it together on a tv for the first time.
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paying for individual parts is bullshit. i dont know why anyone would pay for those. and i hate watching videos on my computer. i like being able to watch it on my TV or bring it to the park/buddies place to watch it before/during/after the sesh. unfortunately it seems like no one buys videos (on dvd) anymore. besides myself i can only think of 1 or 2 other people who still but videos. kind of lame, but whatever.
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I miss bringing skate flicks over to a buds house before shredding.
Now we have to crowd around some stinky skateboarder and watch a web clip over his shoulder.
By the time I started skating and watching skate videos I had a friend who would burn me copies of the videos he had. We would occasionally go to his house and watch some videos and get pumped to shred.
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He's such a douche for having the attitude like they are so forward in their thinking about the future of distributing skateboarding through the internet and doing away with physical copies. The fact is there is nothing new about this form of distributing media and it was only natural for all forms of media to move away from physical and go towards digital. I won't be surprised when skate videos start streaming on Netflix and Hulu (if they don't already?). Physical distribution of media is never going to go away completely but this was already the next step for everyone, inside and out of the skate industry.
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And we don't have to waste plastic, paper, and whatever else goes in to making, packing, and distributing DVDs.
Been rocking a laptop sans optical drive for almost a year and haven't missed it once.
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dylan released his part for free, and on disc at that. now look how many sales his shoes are pulling in, and how many more models he has at that, berra needs to learn, you dont skate and you dont have an opinion!
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Its wierd to go from team videos to one man iTunes clips
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Berra you're a faggot, i will never buy anything from you/berrics. Online parts should be free, but im still down to buy dvds
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Appleyard will make 100 percent of the profit on the digital downloads...
^Somehow, I doubt that. Steve can't let him take it all, he's still so poor from all his bills and lack of money ::)
You misunderstand the word "profit".
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Appleyard will make 100 percent of the profit on the digital downloads...
^Somehow, I doubt that. Steve can't let him take it all, he's still so poor from all his bills and lack of money ::)
i think you misunderstood the word "steve"
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fuck, it sucks that 5boro put their vid on thrasher. that thing woulda been so much more valuable on the berrics!
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i despise the phrase "street part". what's next? bowl parts? alleyway parts? hill parts? grassride parts? night parts? day parts? i do agree though, that the person skating should be the one that actually makes the money as opposed to apple etc. i'm sure there will be some mix-up or arguments between pros and companies about this solo approach to videos somewhere down the road though.
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fuck, it sucks that 5boro put their vid on thrasher. that thing woulda been so much more valuable on the berrics!
It's cool that 5boro put that video up for free... same with Dylan's Gravis part. I don't mind paying some money for a decent vid or even video part.
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sarcasm. i have no idea how paying for a digital copy something makes it better than getting it for free
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I'm down for the skater/filmer getting paid 100%. I just wish Berra wasn't affiliated with it.
Speaking of free parts released....
Mark Suciu: Cross Continental (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG3BYLv403k#)
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I wish The Berrics wasn't the platform in which the one person video parts were being released. Instead, it should be sold or become downloadable for free through the actual company's website in which the rider wants to release the part through. If pros/ams want to film a fucking video part, they need to get out in the streets and find some real shit to skate, not film tricks on so-called "street" obstacles in a skatepark.
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I'm probably not tech-savvy enough to truly appreciate the digital download, but there are several reasons why I only want a physical copy of a full-length video:
I don't want bite-sized videos; I want a feature film. It's like the difference between a crappy single and a bomb LP.
I have an extensive video collection that is invaluable. I want it to continue to grow in it's dopeness.
I-tunes blows; I bought the P-Rod joint and the playback is shit. This might go along with a previous comment about slow computers.
The Berrics blows; I bought the Daewon shit and had serious technical difficulties playing it. Plus I lost it; that would never happen with a full-length DVD.
Laptops are great, but I'm from the school where you sit on the fucking couch and watch the damn video on the full-size television.
Likewise, I want frame-by-frame and chapter advance via remote control.
God bless Spike Jonze and Girl skateboards. They understand and respect the artform of a feature film. Pretty Sweet Blu-ray all fucking day!!!
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grant yansura is the best thing to happen to the berrics. he should run that place instead of berra
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I wish The Berrics wasn't the platform in which the one person video parts were being released. Instead, it should be sold or become downloadable for free through the actual company's website in which the rider wants to release the part through. If pros/ams want to film a fucking video part, they need to get out in the streets and find some real shit to skate, not film tricks on so-called "street" obstacles in a skatepark.
hes filming an actual street part this shit isnt gonna be filmed at any of the berrics locations.
as far as the digital/physical media debate goes id say that most shit should be digital, with full-length (well over an hour long) videos being made on DVD or whatever. what it really comes down to for me is would i be willing to pay $20 just to watch something ona TV instead of watching it for free on my computer. ill buy a physical copy if the videos gonna actually be watchable more than a few times and isnt just some 35 minute promo.
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Alright. Would anybody here pay for a Berra part?
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Alright. Would anybody here pay for a Berra part?
if he ever did i wouldnt be surprised if haters actually bought it more than real berra fans.
but personally i wouldnt waste a dime on that shit...
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real berra fans..
Oh. so you mean nobody.
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Alright. Would anybody here pay for a Berra part?
No, but I'd pay for him to not speak/type/do interviews/express his opinion ever again.
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Street parts are far too sacred to be releasing them for free online -- that's the bottom line.
They're so sacred that nobody should ever have a hard copy of them? That's the best part of owning skate videos... being able to hold them in your hands and put them in the vcr, dvd player, etc. Any time someone uses phrases like "that's the bottom line" or "the fact of the matter is" clearly shows they have nothing else to back up what they're saying and are declaring their opinion a fact.
Every time I hear or read something new about Berra it always involves him justifying charging people for everything. I'm sure it's a matter of time before you have to "donate" to the berrics to even have full access to the site. And like someone else said, I hate how he acts like he's so far ahead of people and being different.
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What else could someone like Berra do? He's gotta keep his shit flowing somehow; I don't think he ever envisioned how "powerful" the Berrics would become (who knows? maybe it was part of his 'master plan'?)
I feel you, it is lame that so much money is getting involved,
but that's what happens when admiration comes into play..
I don't think he's trying to be so different as he is trying to be smart about where this industry could end up.
Ultimately though, I agree, paying for this shit would take away all the fun. Sometimes, I just feel like that's all Berra and Koston want to do, is retain the FUN in skateboarding.. it's just getting far too serious these days.
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PHYSICAL MEDIA FOR LIFE.
I miss asking my friends if I could have my copy of so-so back.
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This just adds on to my list of reasons why I hate Steve Berra
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This is probably the lamest reason to hate Berra yet, and you all sound so regular. You all know that DVD's will be non-existant in 5-10 years, you all know that in this internet age companies can't wait for years for all of their riders to stack footage for a video, you all know that you can watch digital clips on your TV now and it will become the norm soon enough. Of all the reasons to hate Berra, this is really weak.
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When I'm older I wanna pull a dvd off my shelf that I used to watch when I was younger not a file up on my computer.
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This is probably the lamest reason to hate Berra yet, and you all sound so regular. �You all know that DVD's will be non-existant in 5-10 years, you all know that in this internet age companies can't wait for years for all of their riders to stack footage for a video, you all know that you can watch digital clips on your TV now and it will become the norm soon enough. �Of all the reasons to hate Berra, this is really weak.
This is just another way for Berra to make money off of skateboarding. He would obviously rather put out a video part of some one on the Berrics that everyone will forget about in a week or so rather having the company that the person rides for put out a full length where they can make that money they deserve.
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This is probably the lamest reason to hate Berra yet, and you all sound so regular. �You all know that DVD's will be non-existant in 5-10 years, you all know that in this internet age companies can't wait for years for all of their riders to stack footage for a video, you all know that you can watch digital clips on your TV now and it will become the norm soon enough. �Of all the reasons to hate Berra, this is really weak.
This is just another way for Berra to make money off of skateboarding. He would obviously rather put out a video part of some one on the Berrics that everyone will forget about in a week or so rather having the company that the person rides for put out a full length where they can make that money they deserve.
Everybody who is involved in the skateboarding industry "makes money off skateboarding", so I don't see why you would single out Berra. Again, it's just him embracing the future of the medium. Single parts are quickly becoming the norm, and that's going to continue whether Berra is involved or not.
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I like what Zero and Slave did with their videos. Making them cost like $8 for the dvd. For a while all the videos were $20+ dollars and it gets to be kinda expensive. Its kinda musicians getting pissed people are downloading their music illegally yet charging $20 for a cd with like 9 songs on it. If they just sold the videos at a cheaper price, maybe even at like $10 dollars I feel more people would be down to buy it.
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God's Xenu's gift to skateboarding strikes again.
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Appleyard said hes getting 100% of the profits from his part
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I do not buy single parts.
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You all know that DVD's will be non-existant in 5-10 years,
do you actually believe this?
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Alright. Would anybody here pay for a Berra part?
i wouldn't pay for something that berra owes skateboarding and the skaters for years.
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single parts take the 'team' vibe out of a skateboard team