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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: swagdragon123 on January 17, 2013, 05:32:39 PM
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So I brussed my heel for the first time the other day and it sucks. I seem to sprain my ankle every year. I do ankle excersizes sometimes to reduse my risk of rolling them again. My question is what is the best shoe for protection? Like heel cushion and ankle support? so far found these two:
(http://images.sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/nike-sb-dunk-mid-midnight-fog-available-06-570x381.jpg)
(http://cache.emerica.com/content/g6/explore-herman-g6.jpg)
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I don't know much about heel bruises but for ankle support, I like to keep the sole thin.
The one time I really fucked up my ankle I was wearing some random nikes with a super thick sole.
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Skytop 3's, just find them on sale somewhere and get a pair. great ankle support if laced up and the best sole for reducing heel bruise, trust me I have a horrible problem with heel bruise but not with the skytop 3's
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Skytop 3's, just find them on sale somewhere and get a pair. great ankle support if laced up and the best sole for reducing heel bruise, trust me I have a horrible problem with heel bruise but not with the skytop 3's
those shoes are so nice I have wanted a pair for awhile now, I can't find any on sale online anywhere
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do those insoles that ect. makes work?
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i got some of the Remind Medic insoles and they seem to help a lot. nice and mushy on the toes and pretty firm around the arch and heel. def worth the 40 $
i have also tried the footprint kingfoam insoles and they are straight for a few weeks but tend to blow out quickly.
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What foureyedjim said. Shoe with a thinner sole will help prevent ankle rolls. Heel bruises, I would recommend FootPrint Insoles. Watch this video on it. It sold me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z26uda0h710 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z26uda0h710)
I haven't tried them yet, as I am recovering from ACL Reconstrustion, but I'll definitely be getting them. Save my knees. Plus, I need arch supports and these FootPrint Insoles have custom arch support.
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i got some of the Remind Medic insoles and they seem to help a lot. nice and mushy on the toes and pretty firm around the arch and heel. def worth the 40 $
i have also tried the footprint kingfoam insoles and they are straight for a few weeks but tend to blow out quickly.
You should email them. I've heard they have really good customer service. Giving a free pair to people have had their insoles blow out quick like yours. Also have heard they'll give you 50% off on your next purchase.
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ill check into that for sure. thanks for the heads up.
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I can only skate dunks or axion cupsoles at this point. Vulc hurts my feet so much it ruins the session.
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Let's start a constructive debate, what is the optimum style shoe for skateboarding? safety wise. Thin cup sole with high end insoles? Thick cup soles? Vulc soles? Vulc soles with insoles?
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(http://solecollector.com/media/u/images/adidas-busenitz-dark-onix-1.jpg)
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I'm alternating between some Huf pro's and Praxis Freestyles. I like the Praxis' a lot, I just don't think they're going to be around much longer. It's a mid top, thin cupsole.
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What foureyedjim said. Shoe with a thinner sole will help prevent ankle rolls.
Can't stress this enough. If you roll your ankle a lot look for a shoe with a thin midsole, something close to the ground, your foot will be able to feel the ground better and be more stable. I'm starting to avoid shoes with a straight tall sidewall altogether, vulc or cupsole, it doesn't matter. I've tweaked my ankle often and bad because I was wearing shoes like Campus Vulcs and AV's Native (possibly the worst vulc sidewall/sole ever). Also, if the heel is higher off the ground (shoes like Busenitz) you have more chance of rolling your ankle.
For foot pain or any joint pain, I would just do the exercises in this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Pain-Free-Revolutionary-Stopping-Chronic/dp/0553379887 (http://www.amazon.com/Pain-Free-Revolutionary-Stopping-Chronic/dp/0553379887)
You need to get all the muscles working and strong again. The first way to get started is to get out of your shoes whenever possible and walking properly. If you're getting pain it's most likely other muscles compensating for muscles that have atrophied.
After a really bad sprain I had a lot of foot pain, even when I was wearing special insoles like Gamechangers and Reminds. They just masked the pain then it came back worse somewhere else. Ditch the insoles and just use regular ones that just feel comfortable (I use the old Blazer and Adidas Skate insoles, they're pretty basic). Again not something too thick, is a bit of material between your foot and the ground really going to help you? Less is more, even with skate shoes to an extent. Humans never had shoes thousands of years ago and they had no trouble jumping out of trees, walking a heap of miles everyday, etc.
Stop relying on these products because I guarantee your feet (and eventually other joints) will end up even more fucked. Read that book which explains everything. You have to get your musculoskeletal system back in motion and proper alignment. You think the Drs and podiatrists really know if these products are good in the long run or really work (maybe for special cases of genetics/misalinged bones) ? Their research has only been around for a few decades compared to the human body which has existed for how long? Plus they just want your money...
It all starts with the feet, too, they can withstand almost anything. My arch was flat as fuck after a sprain and I was able to get it back through the exercises and walking barefoot more. All that foot pain I had went away and never returned.
I don't skate in completely thin shoes like Authentics but just something where my feet will do the work they're supposed but have enough protection on the side panels for flip tricks. That's all you need really.
The end (Gipper style rant over).
You should post whats in the book
I totally know what you mean when you say high sidewalls increase the risk of an ankle roll. I also understand the thin cup sole idea mentioned. I do not however believe that the same bare foot revolution that has been happening in running etc. applies to skateboarding. Humans where not meant to skateboard. We skate on very hard asphalt and landing a trick rebounds alot of pressure back up our body from the flex of the board. Its simply a violent sport for our feet. I feel like a thin cupsole with a king foam insole would work.
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What foureyedjim said. Shoe with a thinner sole will help prevent ankle rolls.
Can't stress this enough. If you roll your ankle a lot look for a shoe with a thin midsole, something close to the ground, your foot will be able to feel the ground better and be more stable. I'm starting to avoid shoes with a straight tall sidewall altogether, vulc or cupsole, it doesn't matter. I've tweaked my ankle often and bad because I was wearing shoes like Campus Vulcs and AV's Native (possibly the worst vulc sidewall/sole ever). Also, if the heel is higher off the ground (shoes like Busenitz) you have more chance of rolling your ankle.
For foot pain or any joint pain, I would just do the exercises in this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Pain-Free-Revolutionary-Stopping-Chronic/dp/0553379887 (http://www.amazon.com/Pain-Free-Revolutionary-Stopping-Chronic/dp/0553379887)
You need to get all the muscles working and strong again. The first way to get started is to get out of your shoes whenever possible and walking properly. If you're getting pain it's most likely other muscles compensating for muscles that have atrophied.
After a really bad sprain I had a lot of foot pain, even when I was wearing special insoles like Gamechangers and Reminds. They just masked the pain then it came back worse somewhere else. Ditch the insoles and just use regular ones that just feel comfortable (I use the old Blazer and Adidas Skate insoles, they're pretty basic). Again not something too thick, is a bit of material between your foot and the ground really going to help you? Less is more, even with skate shoes to an extent. Humans never had shoes thousands of years ago and they had no trouble jumping out of trees, walking a heap of miles everyday, etc.
Stop relying on these products because I guarantee your feet (and eventually other joints) will end up even more fucked. Read that book which explains everything. You have to get your musculoskeletal system back in motion and proper alignment. You think the Drs and podiatrists really know if these products are good in the long run or really work (maybe for special cases of genetics/misalinged bones) ? Their research has only been around for a few decades compared to the human body which has existed for how long? Plus they just want your money...
It all starts with the feet, too, they can withstand almost anything. My arch was flat as fuck after a sprain and I was able to get it back through the exercises and walking barefoot more. All that foot pain I had went away and never returned.
I don't skate in completely thin shoes like Authentics but just something where my feet will do the work they're supposed but have enough protection on the side panels for flip tricks. That's all you need really.
The end (Gipper style rant over).
I totally know what you mean when you say high sidewalls increase the risk of an ankle roll. I also understand the thin cup sole idea mentioned. I do not however believe that the same bare foot revolution that has been happening in running etc. applies to skateboarding. Humans where not meant to skateboard. We skate on very hard asphalt and landing a trick rebounds alot of pressure back up our body from the flex of the board. Its simply a violent sport for our feet. I feel like a thin cupsole with a king foam insole would work.
That would be my choice.
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I don't know much about heel bruises but for ankle support, I like to keep the sole thin.
The one time I really fucked up my ankle I was wearing some random nikes with a super thick sole.
+1 . I've fucked up both of my ankles in the last year and a half badly, and both times was because I had shoes that weren't broken in and had a thick ass sole (like emerica 'the situation'). If you can't feel your shit, you're going down.
And like previously stated in this thread, try a pair of dunks or busenitz. Feels go-ooood and stable as shit
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I don't know much about heel bruises but for ankle support, I like to keep the sole thin.
The one time I really fucked up my ankle I was wearing some random nikes with a super thick sole.
+1 . I've fucked up both of my ankles in the last year and a half badly, and both times was because I had shoes that weren't broken in and had a thick ass sole (like emerica 'the situation'). If you can't feel your shit, you're going down.
And like previously stated in this thread, try a pair of dunks or busenitz. Feels go-ooood and stable as shit
both shoes have a high side wall right around the ankle?
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blazers are the way to go
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adidas Ronan's.. no joke
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that zoom air heel in nike sb dunks feels marvelous on your heels breh
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Do not get a shoe with a "thin sole".
Tie your shoes tighter and stop bailing.
+Those Busenitz have very little cushioning, don't believe the hype.
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DlHU9OC-9zg/UI8Rj2-kteI/AAAAAAAAABg/vuK1_DO9pNM/s1600/Footprint+King+Foam+Orthotic+Insoles_enl.jpg)
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Do not get a shoe with a "thin sole".
Tie your shoes tighter and stop bailing.
+Those Busenitz have very little cushioning, don't believe the hype.
A thick sole has a higher side wall which creates a steeper angle to roll your ankle on. The same reason tennis player don't play in running shoes because running shoes have such a thick sole and sidewall and they would twist their ankles. I think a thin sole to reduce twisting or rolling your ankle plus a highly absorbing insole makes the ideal skate shoe. (a think sole does increase impact protection but it also increase rolling an ankle so to make up for the lack of impact protection found in a thin sole I would add the high end insoles) its like an equation or something.
so essentially the koston 1 assuming lunorlon could stand up to:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DlHU9OC-9zg/UI8Rj2-kteI/AAAAAAAAABg/vuK1_DO9pNM/s1600/Footprint+King+Foam+Orthotic+Insoles_enl.jpg)
lunorlon vs. king foam?
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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DlHU9OC-9zg/UI8Rj2-kteI/AAAAAAAAABg/vuK1_DO9pNM/s1600/Footprint+King+Foam+Orthotic+Insoles_enl.jpg)
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poor mans koston/perfect skate shoe?
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do those insoles that ect. makes work?
I bought a pair a while ago and I can honestly say it's one of the best purchase I've ever made.
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What foureyedjim said. Shoe with a thinner sole will help prevent ankle rolls.
I totally know what you mean when you say high sidewalls increase the risk of an ankle roll. I also understand the thin cup sole idea mentioned. I do not however believe that the same bare foot revolution that has been happening in running etc. applies to skateboarding. Humans where not meant to skateboard. We skate on very hard asphalt and landing a trick rebounds alot of pressure back up our body from the flex of the board. Its simply a violent sport for our feet. I feel like a thin cupsole with a king foam insole would work.
It would take all night to write out the exercises, just buy it it's like 8 bucks...
I think you're under-estimating the human body. Sure concrete is hard but there are examples of widespread ?natural? hard surfaces that humans have been running, jumping and walking on since humans have been on the planet prior to the invention of shoes. Stones, rocks and hardened clay for example. Many of these are components that are used to make concrete. Although concrete may be man-made, that does not mean that natural substances do not exist that can match its density. Even if we are doing something "unnatural" like flipping a piece of wood around the feet are capable of taking that force, if you use your feet the way they were intended to.
yea but I know from experience because I keep getting hurt all the time. I can do the thin cup sole thing but I need some insoles at least
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Skytop 3's, just find them on sale somewhere and get a pair. great ankle support if laced up and the best sole for reducing heel bruise, trust me I have a horrible problem with heel bruise but not with the skytop 3's
I got mine on 6pm.com but you'll have to check occasionally for the right sales. I've gotta 2 pairs from there for no more than $75 and as a skate shoe they're fucking great. Can't really go wrong with dunk mids tho especially if you can get ones with the strap. I'm currently skating some dunks with the strap with the supra insoles replacing the zoom ones. I can skate double sets with little to no pain
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If you have a history of sprained ankles, you may want to look into ankle braces. It may take a while to get used to skating in one, though. I know Mike Mo was/is using one and swore by it - said he couldn't skate without it.
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this
(http://www.bestrunningshoesforyou.com/images_products/Nike-SB-Blazer-High-Black-White-Classic-Basketball-Skateboard.jpg)
and this
(http://www.drscholls.com/img/products/MassagingGel_ArchSupports_med_r.png)
i don't get heel bruises anymore.
i used to love sk8 highs but the sole was wearing out faster than the shoe for me so i settled for nike even though i hate them.
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If you have a history of sprained ankles, you may want to look into ankle braces. It may take a while to get used to skating in one, though. I know Mike Mo was/is using one and swore by it - said he couldn't skate without it.
That's possibly the worst advice ever. Your ankle will become dependent on the brace then it becomes even weaker.
Agreed, you can still hurt your ankle with a brace on.
If anything, start off with the brace, but also do some ankle exercises at home when you're watching something.
slowly switch to shoes with more ankle support.
I recently started skating without the brace but I am still rocking mid/hi tops.
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Restraining your ankle puts you more at risk for hurting your knee, too.
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I was skating a bunch of es's (mostly that vulc/cup hybrid but still more like a vulc) i got from the crazy sale for the last 6 months and i just got got some dunk mids and ive noticed a huge difference. feels a lot better on my feet and ankles. i don't skate stairs or any thing but i do skate a few times a week (2-3 times for 2-3 hours long)
If you have a history of sprained ankles, you may want to look into ankle braces. It may take a while to get used to skating in one, though. I know Mike Mo was/is using one and swore by it - said he couldn't skate without it.
also any one tried these?
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9575/picture5xu.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/picture5xu.png/)
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I was skating a bunch of es's (mostly that vulc/cup hybrid but still more like a vulc) i got from the crazy sale for the last 6 months and i just got got some dunk mids and ive noticed a huge difference. feels a lot better on my feet and ankles. i don't skate stairs or any thing but i do skate a few times a week (2-3 times for 2-3 hours long)
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If you have a history of sprained ankles, you may want to look into ankle braces. It may take a while to get used to skating in one, though. I know Mike Mo was/is using one and swore by it - said he couldn't skate without it.
also any one tried these?
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9575/picture5xu.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/picture5xu.png/)
Yes, they are great. After some time you didn?t notice them and can move your ankle like without them but when you roll your ankle they prevent the tragedy....
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I was skating a bunch of es's (mostly that vulc/cup hybrid but still more like a vulc) i got from the crazy sale for the last 6 months and i just got got some dunk mids and ive noticed a huge difference. feels a lot better on my feet and ankles. i don't skate stairs or any thing but i do skate a few times a week (2-3 times for 2-3 hours long)
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If you have a history of sprained ankles, you may want to look into ankle braces. It may take a while to get used to skating in one, though. I know Mike Mo was/is using one and swore by it - said he couldn't skate without it.
also any one tried these?
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9575/picture5xu.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/4/picture5xu.png/)
Yes, they are great. After some time you didn?t notice them and can move your ankle like without them but when you roll your ankle they prevent the tragedy....
I have one of these (it doesn't have any straps like the one pictured). It's wierd to get used to but once you wear it in you barely feel it at all.
I don't use it for rolled ankles, I have some bullshit called anterior ankle impingement which basically means that if i bend my knee too far down the tissue in the 2 joints pinches causing extreme pain. It sucks because I can no longer do back lips or back smiths but that ankle strap at least allows me to skate.
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Yes, they are great. After some time you didn?t notice them and can move your ankle like without them but when you roll your ankle they prevent the tragedy....
I have one of these (it doesn't have any straps like the one pictured). It's wierd to get used to but once you wear it in you barely feel it at all.
I don't use it for rolled ankles, I have some bullshit called anterior ankle impingement which basically means that if i bend my knee too far down the tissue in the 2 joints pinches causing extreme pain. It sucks because I can no longer do back lips or back smiths but that ankle strap at least allows me to skate.
I have the same thing, have you had an x-ray/bone spurs? I had mine removed but I still have shit dorsiflexion. I stretch my calves a lot, and sit on my heels, it kind of helps. I feel your pain, literally, have you tried physio or anything else? I'm desperately trying to get rid of it completely. I'm sure other skateboarders have dealt with this.
Well my PT never told me about this...I just stopped going because
1) I had school 6 hours away from my normal hospital and
2) PT honestly wasn't helping too much
Anyways, good to know that at least I know what the problem is. I'll talk to my PT again and see if they can re-diagnose my ankle
thanks for the info guys
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I skated those dunks a bunch and I thought they were good for my tired feet and jacked ankles.....The high top and thicker sidewall always just felt more stable...Right now I skate Nike mvrks....
I've skated braces and find they don't do anything or they are too stiff....it really depends on how bad stuff is for your ankles....if they aren't too bad then there's no need and you might be weakening them....if they are fucked....then maybe it makes sense....
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g6 + fp = DONE AND DONE
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I'm skating Miket Taylor S's and I really like them. They're cupsole. They have pretty good board feel(almost vulc like) and the insole hasn't bottomed out yet(I've had them for about a month and a half) Definitely one of my favorite shoes! ;D
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g6 + fp = DONE AND DONE
whats fp?
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Im sticking with my skytop 3 opinion. The sole is thick and has enough cushion to stop heel bruise and its a high top so just lace them up and that will stop ankle rolls.
Ive had two knee surgeries and an ankle surgery and skytop 3s are the best thing to ever happen to me, since I can lace them up tight I dont roll my ankle and the sole has enough firm yet cushioned support to prevent heel bruise and It also takes it nice and easy on the old knee.
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Yes, they are great. After some time you didn?t notice them and can move your ankle like without them but when you roll your ankle they prevent the tragedy....
I have one of these (it doesn't have any straps like the one pictured). It's wierd to get used to but once you wear it in you barely feel it at all.
I don't use it for rolled ankles, I have some bullshit called anterior ankle impingement which basically means that if i bend my knee too far down the tissue in the 2 joints pinches causing extreme pain. It sucks because I can no longer do back lips or back smiths but that ankle strap at least allows me to skate.
I have the same thing, have you had an x-ray/bone spurs? I had mine removed but I still have shit dorsiflexion. I stretch my calves a lot, and sit on my heels, it kind of helps. I feel your pain, literally, have you tried physio or anything else? I'm desperately trying to get rid of it completely. I'm sure other skateboarders have dealt with this.
Ive got that too, mine hurts super bad if I compress and my ankle bends so that my toes go up towards my knee, but the braces dont help as much as lacing hightops all the way up super tight do so thats usually what I do.
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whats fp?
FootPrint Insoles.
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Yes, they are great. After some time you didn?t notice them and can move your ankle like without them but when you roll your ankle they prevent the tragedy....
I have one of these (it doesn't have any straps like the one pictured). It's wierd to get used to but once you wear it in you barely feel it at all.
I don't use it for rolled ankles, I have some bullshit called anterior ankle impingement which basically means that if i bend my knee too far down the tissue in the 2 joints pinches causing extreme pain. It sucks because I can no longer do back lips or back smiths but that ankle strap at least allows me to skate.
I have the same thing, have you had an x-ray/bone spurs? I had mine removed but I still have shit dorsiflexion. I stretch my calves a lot, and sit on my heels, it kind of helps. I feel your pain, literally, have you tried physio or anything else? I'm desperately trying to get rid of it completely. I'm sure other skateboarders have dealt with this.
Ive got that too, mine hurts super bad if I compress and my ankle bends so that my toes go up towards my knee, but the braces dont help as much as lacing hightops all the way up super tight do so thats usually what I do.
My physio told me that it won't go away unless I stop doing anything for 6 months or if I get surgery. She told me to do those same exercise but I've honestly been a bit lazy with them lately. If it keeps getting worse and worse I will get surgery, but it's not so bad at the moment. I'd take a badly sprained ankle over this shit any day.
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So um how long do heel bruises last because its been about a week an a half and it still hurts when I put weight on it, is it worse than a heel bruise? I was only skating a foot high box when I slammed on it
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So um how long do heel bruises last because its been about a week an a half and it still hurts when I put weight on it, is it worse than a heel bruise? I was only skating a foot high box when I slammed on it
If it hasn't gotten any worse, but has gotten better, I would say it just a bruise and you're OK.
If it hasn't gotten better or it has gotten worse, I would go see a doctor.
That's just me though.
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So um how long do heel bruises last because its been about a week an a half and it still hurts when I put weight on it, is it worse than a heel bruise? I was only skating a foot high box when I slammed on it
If it hasn't gotten any worse, but has gotten better, I would say it just a bruise and you're OK.
If it hasn't gotten better or it has gotten worse, I would go see a doctor.
That's just me though.
I had an ACE bandage thing on it because I thought it might be more than a bruise but I took it off today and it's feeling better. Good thing its fucking ice outside and I'm not missing anything
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So um how long do heel bruises last because its been about a week an a half and it still hurts when I put weight on it, is it worse than a heel bruise? I was only skating a foot high box when I slammed on it
If it hasn't gotten any worse, but has gotten better, I would say it just a bruise and you're OK.
If it hasn't gotten better or it has gotten worse, I would go see a doctor.
That's just me though.
I would stay off of it as much as you can and ice it. And don't push it. If it ain't 100%, don't fuck with it until it is.
I'm sure I don't have to tell you that though.
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What I find works is giving up the dream of becoming a pro skateboarder. Skate flat bars and curbs and stop being a try hard and you will never have a heel bruise again!!! (relax slap I'm joking)
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I'm not....if you can't Ollie up it....don't Ollie off of it....
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this is skateboarding, nothing can save you
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If you have a history of sprained ankles, you may want to look into ankle braces. It may take a while to get used to skating in one, though. I know Mike Mo was/is using one and swore by it - said he couldn't skate without it.
if you buy an ankle brace, make sure that you're also doing strengthening exercises and other rehab methods in conjunction. just an ankle brace itself will just allow your ankle to get weaker. also, i skated with mike mo about two years ago, and the ankle brace he used was essentially a reinforced sock, so you may want to think before purchasing one of those clunky immobilizing braces.
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My doctor once told me to write out the ABC's with my feet to strengthen my rolled ankle. I tried it and on D I heard the loudest crack from my ankle.
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You can sprain your ankle no matter what kind of fucking shoe you wear. It doesn't matter how thin the sole is when it comes to skate shoes. There isn't going to be enough of a difference. These aren't air max basketball shoes that are elevated high off of the floor.
These lightweight fuckboys who swear by fairy slippers are going to get you injured if you follow their advice.
Get some chunky shit and hold it down!
I have only bruised my heel once and that lasted me 3 at least weeks, so you might be sitting for a bit. (I was wearing a completely blown out pair of Etnies Arto's and decided to jump down one of the biggest gaps in the area. Bad idea)
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You can sprain your ankle no matter what kind of fucking shoe you wear. It doesn't matter how thin the sole is when it comes to skate shoes. There isn't going to be enough of a difference. These aren't air max basketball shoes that are elevated high off of the floor.
These lightweight fuckboys who swear by fairy slippers are going to get you injured if you follow their advice.
Get some chunky shit and hold it down!
I have only bruised my heel once and that lasted me 3 at least weeks, so you might be sitting for a bit. (I was wearing a completely blown out pair of Etnies Arto's and decided to jump down one of the biggest gaps in the area. Bad idea)
I completely disagree. Have you ever heard of the princess and the pee? Feet are sensitive, I think when it comes to performance footwear every centimeter counts. I used to skate the Herman 2s and I sprained my ankle twice in those ( the only times I have sprained my ankles[any other time was because I did't properly treat those sprains]), the cupsole was stiff and had a high sidewall. I feel like even with the midsole the G6 has a small enough side wall to be safe.
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You can sprain your ankle no matter what kind of fucking shoe you wear. It doesn't matter how thin the sole is when it comes to skate shoes. There isn't going to be enough of a difference. These aren't air max basketball shoes that are elevated high off of the floor.
These lightweight fuckboys who swear by fairy slippers are going to get you injured if you follow their advice.
Get some chunky shit and hold it down!
I have only bruised my heel once and that lasted me 3 at least weeks, so you might be sitting for a bit. (I was wearing a completely blown out pair of Etnies Arto's and decided to jump down one of the biggest gaps in the area. Bad idea)
exactly. no ones saying you should wear dylans to prevent rolling ankles, but the higher the sidewall, the more likely you are to have a bad ankle roll. anyone with bad ankles can put on different shoes and roll their ankle (on purpose) in the direction it would normally roll and feel how much more susceptable your ankles are to getting fucked in high sidewall shoes
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I don't give a fuck about the science behind it.
The fact is you can and will roll your shit no matter what if you land incorrectly.
Clearly this guy needs to step it up and wear something else if he is bruising his heels on FLATGROUND. (ALERT ALERT YOU PANSIES, STOP WEARING FAIRY SHOES, IS THIS NOT A RED FLAG?)
I can't believe the audacity of some of these kids recommending shit like the BUSENITZ which feature extremely limited cushioning if anything.
Trash.
Have fun hurting yourself, I couldn't care less
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I don't give a fuck about the science behind it.
The fact is you can and will roll your shit no matter what if you land incorrectly.
typical of strikeapose to ignore basic physics
http://science.howstuffworks.com/lever-info.htm (http://science.howstuffworks.com/lever-info.htm)
but I will agree that you CAN roll your ankle with any shoe
but why not lower the chances?
rule of thumb: don't listen to this guy. This is the same guy that thinks arizona tea is healthy for you
(that thread was hilarious)
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I don't give a fuck about the science behind it.
The fact is you can and will roll your shit no matter what if you land incorrectly.
typical of strikeapose to ignore basic physics
http://science.howstuffworks.com/lever-info.htm (http://science.howstuffworks.com/lever-info.htm)
but I will agree that you CAN roll your ankle with any shoe
but why not lower the chances?
rule of thumb: don't listen to this guy. This is the same guy that thinks arizona tea is healthy for you
(that thread was hilarious)
I've been gone for awhile, do you have a link to that thread?
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Very interesting discussion here.
Vulc shoes for skateboarding never did very well with me. I started off using Van Old Skools...after switching to something with a lot less minimalist like a Etnies Sal 23, the difference was seriously night and day.
Never went back, although I did use Vulcs for casual chill shoes - Chucks, PF Flyers, etc. Living in a big city, using a rail system, and walking all over the place, I can say that thin Vulcs didn't suit me for long periods of walking either.
Now, one thing I have a hard time getting used to are skate shoes with the airbag in the heel or shoes that have a heel that is higher off the ground relative to the rest of the sole. I like shoes where the sole feels fairly flat and level. Not to say that I don't want arch support for my flat feet though. This is why I'm a fan of the footprint insoles. I actually wore out the older water injection ones in my running shoes, not skateboarding. Have a newer version (the Alvarez ones) that I'm testing for walking only right now. They're comfortable but I don't have a firm opinion on them yet. I'd be curious to try them skating both in vulcanized and cupsole shoes to see how they do.
Re: tennis shoes, it seems like there is a lot of debate about what works best among non-professional players - mirroring skateboarding somewhat. Doesn't sound like professional players are moving over to minimalist shoes at all though. See this discussion:
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=413535 (http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=413535)
I think the debate going on in running is probably similar. For jogging and such, I definitely prefer a more cushioned shoe (using Brooks Trance 10s) and wouldn't dream of using a pair of those toe-finger slipper things.
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I am going to buy the ecetera insoles but I don't know if I should get the Hi or lo ones. I don't normally jump off stuff but are the los a waste of money?