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General Discussion => WHATEVER => Topic started by: Beer Keg Peg Leg on April 08, 2013, 03:29:51 PM
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Kool & The Gang - Celebration (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M#)
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Mogwai - George Square Thatcher Death Party (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbp3k3rYMs4#)
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Morrissey - Margaret on the Guillotine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsq3H_6XuFA#)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js
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Queen - 'Another One Bites the Dust' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE#)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHQLQ1Rc_Js
Damn it! You beat me to it!
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Roger Waters must be stoked right now
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Don't know much about her politics but she was quite the dime piece. RIP.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t4-zDem1Sk
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NPR was reporting this as I was trying (unsuccessfully) to wake up this morning, and I had this crazy dream about Thatcher and Reagan as loving grandparents comforting their scared nations during the 80s and that it was sad they were both dead...
...then snapped out of it (but still in the dream) and said "fuck that, good riddance to those fuckers!"
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regardless of her politics she was the first female head of state in a major western country.
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/angelameiquan/21-incredibly-angry-songs-about-margaret-thatcher (http://www.buzzfeed.com/angelameiquan/21-incredibly-angry-songs-about-margaret-thatcher)
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regardless of her politics she was the first female head of state in a major western country.
Is there a point to your post?
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Was she really that bad?
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~*~ReLaX iN pArAdIzE Bb GuRl~*~
(http://maryhoneyballmep.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/thatcher.jpg)
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We know that Crass is happy.
Margaret Thatcher How Does It Feel To Be The Mother Of A Thousand Dead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAga3ZQ0BxU#)
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Was she really that bad?
She was.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-death-party-brixton-glasgow (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/08/margaret-thatcher-death-party-brixton-glasgow)
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"Every move she made was charged by negativity; she destroyed the British manufacturing industry, she hated the miners, she hated the arts, she hated the Irish Freedom Fighters and allowed them to die, she hated the English poor and did nothing at all to help them, she hated Greenpeace and environmental protectionists, she was the only European political leader who opposed a ban on the ivory trade, she had no wit and no warmth and even her own cabinet booted her out. She gave the order to blow up The Belgrano even though it was outside of the Malvinas Exclusion Zone?and was sailing AWAY from the islands! When the young Argentinean boys aboard The Belgrano had suffered a most appalling and unjust death, Thatcher gave the thumbs-up sign for the British press.
Iron? No. Barbaric? Yes. She hated feminists even though it was largely due to the progression of the women?s movement that the British people allowed themselves to accept that a prime minister could actually be female. But because of Thatcher, there will never again be another woman in power in British politics, and rather than opening that particular door for other women, she closed it.
Thatcher will only be fondly remembered by sentimentalists who did not suffer under her leadership, but the majority of British working people have forgotten her already, and the people of Argentina will be celebrating her death. As a matter of recorded fact, Thatcher was a terror without an atom of humanity."
- MORRISSEY.
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http://9gag.com/gag/7041572 (http://9gag.com/gag/7041572)
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I don't know how average people can make such definitive judgements on economic policy. ? I for one, still feel like a toddler in the subject. ? That quote about feminists is ridiculous though, what a bitch.
-Edit. Instead of kooking me how about providing me with proof that she was in fact a huge cunt. I really know very little about her. That Guardian article and Morrissey quote are not doing it for me. I've read a few articles that painted her in a more postive light and I'm not finding anything as convincing from the negative side:
Nevermind there was some good comments on some Economist articles that made her look like a cunt.
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http://thequietus.com/articles/11886-margaret-thatcher-obituary (http://thequietus.com/articles/11886-margaret-thatcher-obituary)
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Heard about this on NPR driving to work this morning, and laughed my ass off
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/08/internet_confused_by_nowthatchersdead_hashtag_on_twitter/ (http://www.salon.com/2013/04/08/internet_confused_by_nowthatchersdead_hashtag_on_twitter/)
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"Every move she made was charged by negativity; she destroyed the British manufacturing industry, she hated the miners, she hated the arts, she hated the Irish Freedom Fighters and allowed them to die, she hated the English poor and did nothing at all to help them, she hated Greenpeace and environmental protectionists, she was the only European political leader who opposed a ban on the ivory trade, she had no wit and no warmth and even her own cabinet booted her out. She gave the order to blow up The Belgrano even though it was outside of the Malvinas Exclusion Zone?and was sailing AWAY from the islands! When the young Argentinean boys aboard The Belgrano had suffered a most appalling and unjust death, Thatcher gave the thumbs-up sign for the British press.
Iron? No. Barbaric? Yes. She hated feminists even though it was largely due to the progression of the women?s movement that the British people allowed themselves to accept that a prime minister could actually be female. But because of Thatcher, there will never again be another woman in power in British politics, and rather than opening that particular door for other women, she closed it.
Thatcher will only be fondly remembered by sentimentalists who did not suffer under her leadership, but the majority of British working people have forgotten her already, and the people of Argentina will be celebrating her death. As a matter of recorded fact, Thatcher was a terror without an atom of humanity."
- MORRISSEY.
I wouldn't listen to anything political Morrissey says.
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The Living Dead, E3: The Attic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu4RymE14xs#)
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regardless of her politics she was the first female head of state in a major western country.
Thatcher was head of government. The Queen was/remains head of state.
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"Every move she made was charged by negativity; she destroyed the British manufacturing industry, she hated the miners, she hated the arts, she hated the Irish Freedom Fighters and allowed them to die, she hated the English poor and did nothing at all to help them, she hated Greenpeace and environmental protectionists, she was the only European political leader who opposed a ban on the ivory trade, she had no wit and no warmth and even her own cabinet booted her out. She gave the order to blow up The Belgrano even though it was outside of the Malvinas Exclusion Zone?and was sailing AWAY from the islands! When the young Argentinean boys aboard The Belgrano had suffered a most appalling and unjust death, Thatcher gave the thumbs-up sign for the British press.
Iron? No. Barbaric? Yes. She hated feminists even though it was largely due to the progression of the women?s movement that the British people allowed themselves to accept that a prime minister could actually be female. But because of Thatcher, there will never again be another woman in power in British politics, and rather than opening that particular door for other women, she closed it.
Thatcher will only be fondly remembered by sentimentalists who did not suffer under her leadership, but the majority of British working people have forgotten her already, and the people of Argentina will be celebrating her death. As a matter of recorded fact, Thatcher was a terror without an atom of humanity."
- MORRISSEY.
I wouldn't listen to anything political Morrissey says.
do you even have pubes?
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regardless of her politics she was the first female head of state in a major western country.
First black president. First female prime minister. These are all distraction.
I mean you got the first female prime minister (symbol of progress) running the most conservative agenda. That aint a progress. Its not a progress when the 1/3 of a developed country is poverty striken for the well being of the other 2/3 and the major profits of the favored buissnesmen.
Obama HOPE anyone? Budget cuts faggots.
Thatcher along with Reagan set the foundations of the world as we know it and are majorly responsible for the crisis. Despite what you are told a crisis happens when the wealth is concentrated in fewer and fewer hands so the people have less and less. The funny thing is that they are fighting the crisis with neo-liberal bullshit and thatcherism so that they can protect capitals. We are fucked!
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"Every move she made was charged by negativity; she destroyed the British manufacturing industry, she hated the miners, she hated the arts, she hated the Irish Freedom Fighters and allowed them to die, she hated the English poor and did nothing at all to help them, she hated Greenpeace and environmental protectionists, she was the only European political leader who opposed a ban on the ivory trade, she had no wit and no warmth and even her own cabinet booted her out. She gave the order to blow up The Belgrano even though it was outside of the Malvinas Exclusion Zone?and was sailing AWAY from the islands! When the young Argentinean boys aboard The Belgrano had suffered a most appalling and unjust death, Thatcher gave the thumbs-up sign for the British press.
Iron? No. Barbaric? Yes. She hated feminists even though it was largely due to the progression of the women?s movement that the British people allowed themselves to accept that a prime minister could actually be female. But because of Thatcher, there will never again be another woman in power in British politics, and rather than opening that particular door for other women, she closed it.
Thatcher will only be fondly remembered by sentimentalists who did not suffer under her leadership, but the majority of British working people have forgotten her already, and the people of Argentina will be celebrating her death. As a matter of recorded fact, Thatcher was a terror without an atom of humanity."
- MORRISSEY.
I wouldn't listen to anything political Morrissey says.
do you even have pubes?
Anyone with any kind of political common sense knows Morrissey is an idiot.
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Is there any reason why you all think that socialism and capitalism can share the same bed? What do you think would've happened to Brittain if there was no Thatcher? When the government pays for growth is it really growth? Do I need to read Marx? ...serious questions.
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Yes, read Marx! You don't need to read Das Kapital or anything, but you should get a basic grasp of his ideas and interpretations (http://www.marxists.org/ (http://www.marxists.org/))
You can also read up on Keynesian economics. I'm not too familiar with those guys but I read this and it's a good little book which shows how a society could work without abandoning capitalism...
http://www.amazon.com/The-Good-Society-Humane-Agenda/dp/0395859980/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365618717&sr=8-1&keywords=the+good+society+galbraith (http://www.amazon.com/The-Good-Society-Humane-Agenda/dp/0395859980/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365618717&sr=8-1&keywords=the+good+society+galbraith)
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It's very immature to cheer a person's death.
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Is there any reason why you all think that socialism and capitalism can share the same bed? What do you think would've happened to Brittain if there was no Thatcher? When the government pays for growth is it really growth? Do I need to read Marx? ...serious questions.
I would consider myself a marxist however history has shown that Keynesian methods are perhaps the most effective management system for capitalist economies. This is basically what it entails:
"active government policy could be effective in managing the economy. Rather than seeing unbalanced government budgets as wrong, Keynes advocated what has been called countercyclical fiscal policies, that is, policies that acted against the tide of the business cycle: deficit spending when a nation's economy suffers from recession or when recovery is long-delayed and unemployment is persistently high?and the suppression of inflation in boom times by either increasing taxes or cutting back on government outlays. He argued that governments should solve problems in the short run rather than waiting for market forces to do it in the long run, because, "in the long run, we are all dead."[12]"
People like Thatcher and Reagan decided to say fuck the last 80 years of economic history and engaged in policies to help make their upperclass homies hella rich. Their legacy is one of inequality and a global economy in shambles. Fuck them.
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It's very immature to cheer a person's death.
I can't wait till you die
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Yes, read Marx! You don't need to read Das Kapital or anything, but you should get a basic grasp of his ideas and interpretations (http://www.marxists.org/ (http://www.marxists.org/))
You can also read up on Keynesian economics. I'm not too familiar with those guys but I read this and it's a good little book which shows how a society could work without abandoning capitalism...
http://www.amazon.com/The-Good-Society-Humane-Agenda/dp/0395859980/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365618717&sr=8-1&keywords=the+good+society+galbraith (http://www.amazon.com/The-Good-Society-Humane-Agenda/dp/0395859980/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1365618717&sr=8-1&keywords=the+good+society+galbraith)
Paul Krugman is a decent public voice for Keynesian economics. I'd recommend anyone giving him a look on youtube.
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Glenda Jackson launches tirade against Thatcher in tribute debate (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtClJYJBj8#ws)
go gurl
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at least she invented creemee before she entered the politics.
(http://7d.blogs.com/.a/6a00d83451b91969e20154328914dd970c-320wi)
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A shitty, cheapened alternative convenient to sellers. Rings a bell.
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"Every move she made was charged by negativity; she destroyed the British manufacturing industry, she hated the miners, she hated the arts, she hated the Irish Freedom Fighters and allowed them to die, she hated the English poor and did nothing at all to help them, she hated Greenpeace and environmental protectionists, she was the only European political leader who opposed a ban on the ivory trade, she had no wit and no warmth and even her own cabinet booted her out. She gave the order to blow up The Belgrano even though it was outside of the Malvinas Exclusion Zone?and was sailing AWAY from the islands! When the young Argentinean boys aboard The Belgrano had suffered a most appalling and unjust death, Thatcher gave the thumbs-up sign for the British press.
Iron? No. Barbaric? Yes. She hated feminists even though it was largely due to the progression of the women?s movement that the British people allowed themselves to accept that a prime minister could actually be female. But because of Thatcher, there will never again be another woman in power in British politics, and rather than opening that particular door for other women, she closed it.
Thatcher will only be fondly remembered by sentimentalists who did not suffer under her leadership, but the majority of British working people have forgotten her already, and the people of Argentina will be celebrating her death. As a matter of recorded fact, Thatcher was a terror without an atom of humanity."
- MORRISSEY.
If some fools tried to blow up my hotel room I'd hate them too. ? Those dudes were dicks.
As for Keynesian economics, wasn't that the idea that stressed heavy government intervention in private business and consumption post-WW2? ? I thought that shit ended up fucking up the economies in north and south America in the late 60s, 70s? ? I was under the assumption that it only worked because of the demographics in the post war period, the baby boom and shit? ? I don't know shit about economics though, feel free to kook me.
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It's very immature to cheer a person's death.
I wouldn't wait, it will be a while. Also, if you're a Brit, your country is a big piece of shit right now, so I feel bad for you.
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It's very immature to cheer a person's death.?
I wouldn't wait, it will be a while.? Also, if you're a Brit, your country is a big piece of shit right now, so I feel bad for you.
They'll be fine. Their countries been a piece of shit since the 40's and before that it was an asshole.
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Is there any reason why you all think that socialism and capitalism can share the same bed?? What do you think would've happened to Brittain if there was no Thatcher?? When the government pays for growth is it really growth?? Do I need to read Marx?? ...serious questions.
I would consider myself a marxist however history has shown that Keynesian methods are perhaps the most effective management system for capitalist economies. This is basically what it entails:
"active government policy could be effective in managing the economy. Rather than seeing unbalanced government budgets as wrong, Keynes advocated what has been called countercyclical fiscal policies, that is, policies that acted against the tide of the business cycle: deficit spending when a nation's economy suffers from recession or when recovery is long-delayed and unemployment is persistently high?and the suppression of inflation in boom times by either increasing taxes or cutting back on government outlays. He argued that governments should solve problems in the short run rather than waiting for market forces to do it in the long run, because, "in the long run, we are all dead."[12]"
People like Thatcher and Reagan decided to say fuck the last 80 years of economic history and engaged in policies to help make their upperclass homies hella rich. Their legacy is one of inequality and a global economy in shambles. Fuck them.
I understand that deficit spending promotes growth and adds jobs. That's obvious. What isn't obvious is what the long term plan is. "In the long run we are all dead" That famous quote irks me. Let's play with no rules because we're all going to be worm food one day, right? In order for Keynesian economics to work, everyone has to be on board and the moment to start paying off the debt has to be clear and crises won't happen during this boom time. It seems like quite the hail mary. Or am I thinking of it wrong and debt just doesn't matter? I'm not saying that Thatcherism and Reagan's economic policies will lead to less debt either as it didn't. Bill Clinton did, what was his magic economic policy?
Also, British Parliament makes great reality tv.
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It's very immature to cheer a person's death.?
I wouldn't wait, it will be a while.? Also, if you're a Brit, your country is a big piece of shit right now, so I feel bad for you.
They'll be fine. Their countries been a piece of shit since the 40's and before that it was an asshole.
We're still assholes. But at least we are literate.
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It's very immature to cheer a person's death.??
I wouldn't wait, it will be a while.?? Also, if you're a Brit, your country is a big piece of shit right now, so I feel bad for you.
They'll be fine.? Their countries been a piece of shit since the 40's and before that it was an asshole.?
We're still assholes. But at least we are literate.
Oh, I git it. I typpped "countries" instud of "Their country has".
ur write imma illiterate...wait wut the fuk am I doin'? Wut do deez lettrs on dis payge even meaan?
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Obviously you don't sincerely pity the British people. True, there is a general malaise about the way things are at the moment and anger at the way the economy is being handled, but overall life is still pretty fair (relatively speaking) for the middle classes despite the current and unjust government. It's pretty pathetic to pitch the country you were born in against that of someone else, you have no control over that. Doing so just makes you come off as a bit simple. Being British or American isn't a strength or weakness, it's an accident. Suggesting Americans are illiterate is weak minded too.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/paul-krugman-margaret-thatcher_n_3043866.html#slide=1443266 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/paul-krugman-margaret-thatcher_n_3043866.html#slide=1443266)
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Obviously you don't sincerely pity the British people. True, there is a general malaise about the way things are at the moment and anger at the way the economy is being handled, but overall life is still pretty fair (relatively speaking) for the middle classes despite the current and unjust government. It's pretty pathetic to pitch the country you were born in against that of someone else, you have no control over that. Doing so just makes you come off as a bit simple. Being British or American isn't a strength or weakness, it's an accident. Suggesting Americans are illiterate is weak minded too.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/paul-krugman-margaret-thatcher_n_3043866.html#slide=1443266 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/paul-krugman-margaret-thatcher_n_3043866.html#slide=1443266)
I agree, every country in the world is a piece of shit.
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Sex Pistol Johnny Rotten attacks hate mobs celebrating Baroness Thatcher's death as 'loathsome' and calls for respect
John Lydon says he will not be former prime minister's 'enemy in death'
Says show the dead respect and finds her death parties 'loathsome'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2307183/Margaret-Thatcher-dead-Sex-Pistol-Johnny-Rotten-says-hate-mobs-loathsome--calls-respect.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2307183/Margaret-Thatcher-dead-Sex-Pistol-Johnny-Rotten-says-hate-mobs-loathsome--calls-respect.html)
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'Anyone with any kind of political common sense knows not to listen to Johnny Rotten'.
People just get lamer and more conservative as they get older, even former punk rockers. Some people (see above) are a little bit ahead of the curve in this regard, however.
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'Anyone with any kind of political common sense knows not to listen to Johnny Rotten'.
People just get lamer and more conservative as they get older, even former punk rockers. Some people (see above) are a little bit ahead of the curve in this regard, however.
I've always had "conservative" economic views since I could vote, it didn't come with age. Also Lydon still said he disagreed with her.
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'Anyone with any kind of political common sense knows not to listen to Johnny Rotten'.
People just get lamer and more conservative as they get older, even former punk rockers. Some people (see above) are a little bit ahead of the curve in this regard, however.
So cheering over a death is a liberal act and not a conservative one? Good to know
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regardless of her politics she was the first female head of state in a major western country.
Is there a point to your post?
yes, and if you cant see it you're an idiot.
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regardless of her politics she was the first female head of state in a major western country.
Is there a point to your post?
yes, and if you cant see it you're an idiot.
What about Isabel Martinez de Peron? Argentina doesn't count? Racist
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regardless of her politics she was the first female head of state in a major western country.
Is there a point to your post?
yes, and if you cant see it you're an idiot.
*sigh*
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'Anyone with any kind of political common sense knows not to listen to Johnny Rotten'.
People just get lamer and more conservative as they get older, even former punk rockers. Some people (see above) are a little bit ahead of the curve in this regard, however.
Sex Pistols despite being punk where clueless about politics. They just provoked.
Its sad to disrespect the dead but in some cases the dead has caused so much pain that deserve it. This is one of these cases.
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Most of this moaning about the death parties is just phony moralism and political points scoring by Britain's upper class twits, who still can't quite believe that Thatcher's 'neo-liberal saviour' mythos hasn't caught on the same way that Reagan's has in the US. At least the Gipper made some pretensions towards being a man of the people.
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Most of this moaning about the death parties is just phony moralism and political points scoring by Britain's upper class twits, who still can't quite believe that Thatcher's 'neo-liberal saviour' mythos hasn't caught on the same way that Reagan's has in the US. At least the Gipper made some pretensions towards being a man of the people.
That's because the Brits are smart.
Anyone with half a brain knows the Gipper's an asshole (I know its "The gipper was" but it was hard to resist)
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regardless of her politics she was the first female head of state in a major western country.
Is there a point to your post?
yes, and if you cant see it you're an idiot.
*sigh*
we are having a discussion, yaaay!
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Is there any reason why you all think that socialism and capitalism can share the same bed?? �What do you think would've happened to Brittain if there was no Thatcher?? �When the government pays for growth is it really growth?? �Do I need to read Marx?? �...serious questions.
I would consider myself a marxist however history has shown that Keynesian methods are perhaps the most effective management system for capitalist economies. This is basically what it entails:
"active government policy could be effective in managing the economy. Rather than seeing unbalanced government budgets as wrong, Keynes advocated what has been called countercyclical fiscal policies, that is, policies that acted against the tide of the business cycle: deficit spending when a nation's economy suffers from recession or when recovery is long-delayed and unemployment is persistently high?and the suppression of inflation in boom times by either increasing taxes or cutting back on government outlays. He argued that governments should solve problems in the short run rather than waiting for market forces to do it in the long run, because, "in the long run, we are all dead."[12]"
People like Thatcher and Reagan decided to say fuck the last 80 years of economic history and engaged in policies to help make their upperclass homies hella rich. Their legacy is one of inequality and a global economy in shambles. Fuck them.
I understand that deficit spending promotes growth and adds jobs. �That's obvious. �What isn't obvious is what the long term plan is. �"In the long run we are all dead" �That famous quote irks me. �Let's play with no rules because we're all going to be worm food one day, right? �In order for Keynesian economics to work, everyone has to be on board and the moment to start paying off the debt has to be clear and crises won't happen during this boom time. �It seems like quite the hail mary. �Or am I thinking of it wrong and debt just doesn't matter? �I'm not saying that Thatcherism and Reagan's economic policies will lead to less debt either as it didn't. �Bill Clinton did, what was his magic economic policy?
Also, British Parliament makes great reality tv.
Well, Keynes probably wasn't aware how true his statement would be but in the long run; we are all very much 'dead'. Capitalism is predicated on endless growth and in a world of finite resources we will inevitably be left with an unmanageable population and limited livable and arable land.
To your questions though, I don't really understand how Keynesian economics is a 'hail mary' with 'no rules'. As a management system that recognizes the deficiencies of markets it is very much a set of rules by which we can overcome these deficiencies. Debt isn't the worst thing in the world as popular debate would have you imagine. It is a necessary function of a large economy and is very manageable at the right levels, especially when 'borrowed' money is invested in necessary public infrastructure. A significant portion of debt is payed off by inflation anyway. Decisions about how to manage this debt should be made by the Treasury department and a publicly mandated Central Bank. In regards to this you are right ina �way. It seems very few people have the social responsibility to ever vote for a candidate who will raise taxes, so an informed public is necessary for the function of a Keynesian economy. If we can manage that it's really not that difficult if we can ensure are leaders are conscious of long term sustainability and not short term profits. Reagan and Thatcher cut taxes while at the same time increasing military spending, at the cost of things like public housing, healthcare, and education, which are investments upon which you will inevitably see economic (not to mention moral) returns.
free market zealots like to point to Clinton's 'small government' approach and the growth experienced during his presidency, but fail to realize that he came to power at the start of the tech boom. They have a fundamental misunderstanding of Keynesian policy; it dictates that in boom times you cut back spending and increase taxes, which is what he did for the most part. Although I am a critic of Clinton, these policies were at the very least economically sound.
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The sad truth is that thatcher is dead but her neo-liberal agenda is alive and kicking.
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Deficit spending in a keynesian model is only supposed to occur during economic slowdowns. The idea is that its not the amount of money, but the movement of it, which makes an economy improve. Governments have a strong ability to get money circulating and flowing to "prime the pump" of the rest of the economy. I focus generally on American policy (maybe that makes me a dickhead American, sorry?) but in the U.S., the government is the largest buyer of goods. When they cut spending, the market loses its biggest customer, when they spend at a deficit, its like the biggest customer is on a shopping spree. The idea is that money starts going into business, businesses make more money, spend more money, and keep the fluidity of money going, strengthening the economy. Also, strengthened businesses end up paying more in taxes when they do more business. Remember: the government isn't burning that money, they are sending it out into the economy.
On the other hand, austerity reduces spending by the biggest buyer of goods, makes companies save more and spend less, and slows the economy down. That's why Europe is fucked, and why the U.S. sunk deeper into the great depression when Hoover tried to shrink the budget. The governments are essentially sucking money out of the economy and not putting it back in. The U.S. is going to be the next one to prove this is the case
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The sad truth is that thatcher is dead but her neo-liberal agenda is alive and kicking.
Deficit spending in a keynesian model is only supposed to occur during economic slowdowns. The idea is that its not the amount of money, but the movement of it, which makes an economy improve. Governments have a strong ability to get money circulating and flowing to "prime the pump" of the rest of the economy. I focus generally on American policy (maybe that makes me a dickhead American, sorry?) but in the U.S., the government is the largest buyer of goods. When they cut spending, the market loses its biggest customer, when they spend at a deficit, its like the biggest customer is on a shopping spree. The idea is that money starts going into business, businesses make more money, spend more money, and keep the fluidity of money going, strengthening the economy. Also, strengthened businesses end up paying more in taxes when they do more business. Remember: the government isn't burning that money, they are sending it out into the economy.
On the other hand, austerity reduces spending by the biggest buyer of goods, makes companies save more and spend less, and slows the economy down. That's why Europe is fucked, and why the U.S. sunk deeper into the great depression when Hoover tried to shrink the budget. The governments are essentially sucking money out of the economy and not putting it back in. The U.S. is going to be the next one to prove this is the case
true all that.
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Amanda Thatcher, Margret Thatcher's 19 year old granddaughter.
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18kxtmt57pjbmjpg/medium_169.jpg)
She's from Texas and runs college track.
(http://image.cdnllnwnl.xosnetwork.com/pics32/200/HN/HNSQULZENYGTREQ.20120912180104.jpg)
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmQDOVtET08"
EDIT:
She's reading a bible verse.
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i'd sink her belgrano
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'Spiritual wickedness in high places'?
She must be a conspiracy theorist!
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I didn't understand a single word that bitch just said
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Thacher's funeral paid by tax payers is the biggest dishonour for her and her politics. Those neoliberal faggots are full of contradictions i wonder why people preach their word.