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Title: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on July 29, 2014, 02:41:31 PM
saw this on facebook and thought it was pretty neat
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t1.0-9/10552653_666501570105657_703974671738253249_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Lion of Judah on July 29, 2014, 02:46:27 PM
Makes sense seeing as how Stacey was trying to swoop up youngsters like cab and hawk. But I'm kinda glad it never fully happened. Even though as a little kid I ate up anything the Bones Brigade did, part of the reason Holmes was my favorite skater growing up was because he wasn't on the Brigade.
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on July 29, 2014, 04:00:13 PM
i was a dumb little kid back in the 80s and didn't comprehend was christ was doing, but holy shit that dude was head n shoulders towering over his competion making them look terrible and was awarded 2nd and 3rd places (they found excuses- not enough "lip' tricks and bullshit!)   christian defenitly was not white enuf to get what he deserved thru the 80s dude(either that or the judges were bumming on him for being so chinese eyed during his runs lol)
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Facehead on July 29, 2014, 05:56:32 PM
i was a dumb little kid back in the 80s and didn't comprehend was christ was doing, but holy shit that dude was head n shoulders towering over his competion making them look terrible and was awarded 2nd and 3rd places (they found excuses- not enough "lip' tricks and bullshit!)   christian defenitly was not white enuf to get what he deserved thru the 80s dude(either that or the judges were bumming on him for being so chinese eyed during his runs lol)

Hosoi won often enough to make your claim of racism seem pretty lame:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Hosoi#Contest_history (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Hosoi#Contest_history)

Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Random Matt on July 29, 2014, 06:03:39 PM
Is this real?

I don't believe it.
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on July 29, 2014, 06:38:53 PM
won enough ?fuck that. i remember he was ALWAYS 2nd to hawk BUT he made them all look like intermediates dude!  He should have been rightly awarded 1st place in prolly ALL those contests. BTW dude racism exists and it is real, not "lame" to think so.
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: jorge on July 29, 2014, 07:18:28 PM
i was a dumb little kid back in the 80s and didn't comprehend was christ was doing, but holy shit that dude was head n shoulders towering over his competion making them look terrible and was awarded 2nd and 3rd places (they found excuses- not enough "lip' tricks and bullshit!)   christian defenitly was not white enuf to get what he deserved thru the 80s dude(either that or the judges were bumming on him for being so chinese eyed during his runs lol)
The 80s guy you are thinking of who made everyone look terrible and was underappreciated was Chris Miller.
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: tranny curb on July 29, 2014, 08:13:32 PM
kind of odd this wasn't mentioned in the bones brigade doc or rising son...
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: j....soy..... on July 29, 2014, 11:01:19 PM
Yeah this is BS....

Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on July 30, 2014, 12:33:34 AM
meh, some guy put it on some "skateboard history" group on facebook claiming he asked Stacey over fb and got that response. If its fake, its fake. Glad you clarified if you know.
Though I could see Stacey not wanting to admit he let go one of the best skaters of the decade in one of his self-glorifying documentaries. Probably not the case in Rising Son though
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on July 30, 2014, 08:47:51 AM
  I tottaly agree with the miller comment to a degree but not to many people are gonna put 80s miller over fucking 80s early 90s christian, and miller did nothing extra curicular (aside bit of art and his street photos were sick)  Christian was also a premier street skater (jus my opinion) and more grace under pressure, more barefoot hawaii with the island brahs,Kellys pool destroying with duane and rattagi,mini ramp backside ollies, less wife n kidsy than miller.  jus sayin in comparison millers gig looked art-less (although his skating was not artless)   At least the mags would describe millers runs, for hosoi they would nt even, they would always write, "christian as always the "showman" blasting high airs, 2nd place.
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Fenzadill on July 30, 2014, 09:24:10 AM
The 80s guy you are thinking of who made everyone look terrible and was underappreciated was Chris Miller.
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Facehead on July 30, 2014, 10:55:23 AM
meh, some guy put it on some "skateboard history" group on facebook claiming he asked Stacey over fb and got that response. If its fake, its fake. Glad you clarified if you know.
Though I could see Stacey not wanting to admit he let go one of the best skaters of the decade in one of his self-glorifying documentaries. Probably not the case in Rising Son though

According to the wiki on Hosoi he was on Powell as an am, and then left (for Dogtown) because they wouldn't turn him pro. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Hosoi#Skateboard_career (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Hosoi#Skateboard_career)
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Getty on July 30, 2014, 02:43:48 PM
C'mon. Hosoi as someone who "didn't get his due"? Please. Dude was a superstar & almost always got top 3 in contests. The reason Tony won most of them was that he was doing highly progressive technical tricks that no one else could do. The "style vs tech" thing was raging in full force back then (as always) but I don't think racism played a serious role in 80s vert skate contests.

Agreed that Hosoi's street skating gets overlooked. He was right there with Gonz and Natas ollieing trash cans at the Oceanside contest when hardly anyone was doing that... He was also the first to ollie the wall at the Brooklyn Bridge banks from what I've heard. Dude has always ripped everything.
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Wizard Fight on July 30, 2014, 07:21:16 PM
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Chris Miller.
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Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: felixarguelles on July 30, 2014, 08:47:16 PM
He was also the first to ollie the wall at the Brooklyn Bridge banks from what I've heard.

this is pretty fuckin cool if true
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: j....soy..... on July 30, 2014, 09:54:16 PM
If slap was around in the 80s....the correct answer is Blender....

Half pipes are conducive to tricks....parks are to style....
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: whoami on July 30, 2014, 09:55:05 PM
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i was a dumb little kid back in the 80s and didn't comprehend was christ was doing, but holy shit that dude was head n shoulders towering over his competion making them look terrible and was awarded 2nd and 3rd places (they found excuses- not enough "lip' tricks and bullshit!)   christian defenitly was not white enuf to get what he deserved thru the 80s dude(either that or the judges were bumming on him for being so chinese eyed during his runs lol)
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The 80s guy you are thinking of who made everyone look terrible and was underappreciated was Chris Miller.

What about Jeff Phillips?
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on July 31, 2014, 01:27:15 AM
If slap was around in the 80s....the correct answer is Blender....

Half pipes are conducive to tricks....parks are to style....
I wasn't around in the 80's at all, but the more I see of skating from then, the more I get how rad he was.
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on July 31, 2014, 06:17:45 AM
  Well one thing is for sure was that 88, 89 hosoi was booed constantly at contests and skateboarding seemeed to hate him thru that period.   This fact embarrassed my grade 6 self.  Because of  that kind of shit in skating I completely stopped wearing  skate clothes, skate t shirts or nothing  i was like "yuck"
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: able on July 31, 2014, 06:44:59 AM
 Well one thing is for sure was that 88, 89 hosoi was booed constantly at contests and skateboarding seemeed to hate him thru that period. ,  This fact embarrassed my grade 6 self.  Because of  that kind of shit in skating I completely stopped wearing  skate clothes, skate t shirts or nothing  i was like "yuck"

What the hell are you talking about?! This wasn't going on. Racism? Seriously? Did he get booed once at a demo in your home town? A lot of people either liked Hosio or Hawk. Some people like the super tech tricks Tony was doing, and others enjoyed Hosio's more stylish and and gnarly ones. Skateboarding is still the same way today. Some prefer tech, others prefer style, gnar, etc...  Watch the video below to refresh your memory
http://youtu.be/mpRBr_mguT8 (http://youtu.be/mpRBr_mguT8)
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on July 31, 2014, 06:47:20 AM
wait "did he get booed at some demo" did you own a skateboard back then brother? cause its not sounding that way to me.
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: able on July 31, 2014, 08:05:09 AM
Yeah, I'm probably older than you and didn't "quit in the 6th grade" either.  Show me some shred of evidence of this "racism" that you speak of. No wait never mind. Oblivious troll is obvious.. Either that or you're just a burnout
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on July 31, 2014, 08:10:11 AM
Troll is an opinion but no burn out.  Shreds of evidence of racism? how many people would you ask a question like  that? and hows that possible to find, like some internet claim that im supposed to post here below?
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on July 31, 2014, 08:23:42 AM
gawd,i find internet rebuttals  get less and less diverse or unique as time passes.
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: j....soy..... on July 31, 2014, 09:18:17 AM
From personal experience.....I hated Hosoi because how he dressed and just seemed like a cheese ball.....but when I saw him live you just wanted to hang out with the guy.....you could tell everyone thought the same thing....you dudes would have hated both Hawk and Hosoi..... Tom Groholski would have sold a few more boards though.....

In the world of 80s half pipes contest determined who was better....and in contests....difficulty wins over style and size....it just does....it's like Nyjah losing because of bad style....



Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Ronald Wilson Reagan on July 31, 2014, 11:03:44 AM
Troll is an opinion but no burn out.  Shreds of evidence of racism? how many people would you ask a question like  that? and hows that possible to find, like some internet claim that im supposed to post here below?
No, evidence of Christian Hosoi being booed at contests. If it happened all the time there must be footage of it right? Nobody knows what the fuck you are talking about, and you seem to be VERY certain of your point and interested in making sure others know about it. If you are making this big claim that goes against everybody's memory here, you need to provide evidence. not just bitch like a fucking baby that people are calling the stupid shit you say stupid.
Unless you want to provide footage of Christian being booed, which would definitely be on youtube if it exists since footage of about every 80's contest is on youtube, then you need to shut the fuck up.
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Kevin Malone on July 31, 2014, 02:06:26 PM
? Well one thing is for sure was that 88, 89 hosoi was booed constantly at contests and skateboarding seemeed to hate him thru that period. ?  This fact embarrassed my grade 6 self. ? Because of?  that kind of shit in skating I completely stopped wearing ? skate clothes, skate t shirts or nothing ? i was like "yuck"
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Kevin Malone on July 31, 2014, 02:09:28 PM
....you dudes would have hated both Hawk and Hosoi.....


Ahah very true.
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: jorge on July 31, 2014, 04:04:58 PM
Slap 80s vert all stars-
Neil Blender
Tom Groholski
Dan Wilkes
Allen Losi
Jeff Phillips
Ben Schroeder (too early 90s?)

Also Chris Millers crossbone lien airs > Hosois Christ airs.  All day.

Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on July 31, 2014, 05:16:07 PM
alright ronald brainbox regan      if you type in HOSOI BOOED into to ur computer you'll get a shitload      You will see that what i was talking about was a true phenomena and you then prolly wont say shit back , breh!
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: able on July 31, 2014, 10:12:31 PM
Ok thanks. Let me just get to MY COMPUTEr so I believe u
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Schismatic on August 01, 2014, 12:00:05 AM
alright ronald brainbox regan      if you type in HOSOI BOOED into to ur computer you'll get a shitload      You will see that what i was talking about was a true phenomena and you then prolly wont say shit back , breh!

What I gather from this half-intelligible argument is that since Hosoi has been "booed" before then people who booed at him are racist. Correct me if there's more to the point than that.

That is regular. As a grom in the 80's Hosoi seemed like a vain, narcissistic, attention-seeking, showoff prick, wearing 5 swatches and pink scrunchies, constantly pursing his lips like he was trying to look pretty and tough at the same time. Back then dudes like Jesse Martinez, Jay Adams, and all these crusties my uncle knew would come to my house in the valley, blasting old hardcore and thrash tapes, and riding the decrepit 9' capsule in our backyard. That shaped my early impressions of skating so I thought guys like Danforth, Staab, Reategui, etc, were more like what skating was about to me. Then Dressen, Gonz, and Hensley by '88-'89 but the Hawk, McGill, Cab, Hosoi, side of it seemed less raw and grimy. It wasn't until around the Focus days that I started to like Hosoi.

Anyway, when he got booed it's because disliking Hosoi was not an uncommon sentiment at all. Even for the corny-as-fuck mid 80's Hosoi was a cheeseball. Nobody denies that, not even him. Now I appreciate Hosoi's skating in a different way but back then I'd much rather see Fred Smith do a frontside slash grind on a pool with 4' of vert than see Hosoi doing 8' judos or Hawk doing spinny varial shit that I couldn't even comprehend.

So I'll admit I was a Hosoi hater. So were the older dudes I skated with and looked up to and none of it had anything to do with his heritage or complexion, it was just because of everything else about him.
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on August 01, 2014, 02:52:07 AM
cheesy gets laid  (fuckin pretty cool upbringing you had  with ur uncle tho
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Ndsr on August 01, 2014, 03:40:18 AM
Slap 80s vert all stars-
Neil Blender
Tom Groholski
Dan Wilkes
Allen Losi
Jeff Phillips
Ben Schroeder (too early 90s?)

Also Chris Millers crossbone lien airs > Hosois Christ airs.  All day.

I'd throw in remy Stratton as well on the early 90s tip. 
 Remember those g&s parts

Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: j....soy..... on August 01, 2014, 09:46:39 AM
Remy ripped but was eclipsed by Blaize....

Shogo and asian surf dudes already paved the way for Christian.....no racism at all....
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on August 01, 2014, 10:02:40 AM
 i guess what i was saying is if hosoi was white with a mcsqeeb hair cut (yea that was so much better than hair extentions) things would be different  ------- You would HAVE to be from the good ol u s of A to utter "no racism at all" lol  (ps how did remy stratton get into this )
Title: Re: Christian Hosoi, Tony Hawk, and the bones brigade
Post by: Random Matt on August 01, 2014, 03:59:08 PM
Schismatic- Was your uncle a notable skater (sponsored, in mags)? And do you have any good Jesse Martinez stories?