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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: 360 frip on January 30, 2015, 07:55:13 PM
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These aren't for me, I always go with Swiss.
What are the best cheaper bearings?
Are super reds much better than reds? Are Indy comparable?
I haven't skated reds in years, tried Indys once and went back to bones.
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super reds are worth the extra. they aren't swiss, but they're not far off.
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Indy Blacks are for sure your best bet.
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mini logos works good for me
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Whatever they have at the duty free shop....
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Whatever they have at the duty free shop....
There is no duty here. Bearings however are a burn. Swiss will set you back $700 hk.
Would you recommend a Bianca Chandon hat instead?
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i have had a set of indy 7's for 2 years now, they're great. i used to get mini logo bearings all the time, never had a problem with those either.
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I try just to stick with Reds.
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i have had a set of indy 7's for 2 years now, they're great. i used to get mini logo bearings all the time, never had a problem with those either.
skating some indy 7s now.
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I try just to stick with Reds.
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You can get Bones Swiss for $25 on ebay.
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You can get Bones Swiss for $25 on ebay.
23 actually : )
can't beat that. if you can't afford Swiss at that price, stop skating/breathing
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bones-Swiss-Precision-Skate-Bearings-NEW-Sealed-/321655637934?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae42b87ae (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bones-Swiss-Precision-Skate-Bearings-NEW-Sealed-/321655637934?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae42b87ae)
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The shipping makes them double the cost but maybe cheaper if we buy 4 sets or so.
$23 for Swiss is insane. Cheers, I'll see if they're keen. May as well stock up on a couple more sets myself...
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When i was younger my father gave me some speed demons abec 5, i thought they were the coolest bearings at the time! these mother fuckers last me about 3/4 years of skating and i just bought new ones becaus the speed demons were becoming slower... But for 15€ i think i was well served! But for me the best cheaper bearings are Reds, its just the no brainer... for more 5€ you get the speed you need and they last preety well too.
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mini-logos
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You can get Bones Swiss for $25 on ebay.
can't beat that. if you can't afford Swiss at that price, stop skating/breathing
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bones-Swiss-Precision-Skate-Bearings-NEW-Sealed-/321655637934?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae42b87ae (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bones-Swiss-Precision-Skate-Bearings-NEW-Sealed-/321655637934?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae42b87ae)
Bought a set for around $30 after tax, thanks for posting this.
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Reds are the obvious choice.
However, I would recommend the Spitfire Cheapshots
Ive been using them on my rain-setup the last two years, and everytime they hold up at least 15 sessions
Which is ALOT under wet conditions!
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i have some indy 5's on a cruiser and they're fast as shit, but i've had the same swiss for 7 almost 8 years now.
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I've skated a few pairs expensive Bones Swiss 6 Ball for the last 4-5 years and overall they have been solid except that I started to notice rust on the outer races. I never skate in the rain so I was surprised to see this.
Anyway, I found out about Route Supply which make stainless steel (highly rust resistant) bearings with built-in spacers and speed rings - http://routsupplyco.com/steel-built-in-bearings (http://routsupplyco.com/steel-built-in-bearings)
I actually ordered the more expensive ceramic version but gave those to a buddy before skating them since I wanted to stick with steel balls
I wont have them until next week but I'll post some detailed pics and a review in this thread. Looking at the specs, you cant beat them for $15 and the simple fact that you never have to think about spacers or speed rings is a huge bonus since I lose the damn things every time i rotate or change a wheel
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/rout-product-steel-1_zpsmpykutot.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/rout-product-steel-1_zpsmpykutot.jpg.html)
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mini logos works good for me
Can't lie, I've had a set of these running for a little while and I don't really have any complaints. They're made by the same people who make bones bearings.
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Indy Blacks are for sure your best bet.
Due to ordering other things, it will probably come down to these or the super reds.
Are these any better?
The 7's were ok.
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The shipping makes them double the cost but maybe cheaper if we buy 4 sets or so.
$23 for Swiss is insane. Cheers, I'll see if they're keen. May as well stock up on a couple more sets myself...
There's several listings where shipping is free. About to grab my first set.
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super reds are decent. ive had them on a set up that doesnt see a ton of skate time for about a year and one has kind of gunked up and needs to be cleaned. other than that, theyre pretty solid. i dont notice any difference from them and my swiss unless i skate really smooth ground and even then theres not much of a difference. swiss just seem to last a lot longer.
if i had to get a set of cheap bearings, id go super reds or give mini logos a try.
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just put my old swiss with metal shields back on my set up and they're way better than the brand new mini logos i had on before...
are the new bones swiss with rubber shields still that good ?
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just put my old swiss with metal shields back on my set up and they're way better than the brand new mini logos i had on before...
are the new bones swiss with rubber shields still that good ?
Man, I remember when I saved every cent I could to get some Swiss with the metal gold shield. Those were my pride and joy back in the day
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I had a set of Indy bearings and thought they were garbage. I think they were sevens. If I was on a budget it would be Reds, period. They're really good and cost like 16-17 bucks, and like any decent bearing if you take care of them they'll last. I've had Super Reds too and they were pretty good but I don't think I'd buy them again - I'd just buy Reds if I was low on cash, or Swiss if I was flush.
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I've been skating the same two sets of bearings for almost 4 years now. One swiss one reds, they just won't die.
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yo I bought a set of those 25$ swiss bearings on ebay and they had to be a knock off. things barely moved out of the box and were all shot after skating two weeks at almost just the skate park - they didn't touch water. just a heads up!
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yo I bought a set of those 25$ swiss bearings on ebay and they had to be a knock off. things barely moved out of the box and were all shot after skating two weeks at almost just the skate park - they didn't touch water. just a heads up!
Just go to your local and invest in swiss... they'll outlast anything else and are just simply the best
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yo I bought a set of those 25$ swiss bearings on ebay and they had to be a knock off. things barely moved out of the box and were all shot after skating two weeks at almost just the skate park - they didn't touch water. just a heads up!
pretty much. you can get a few years out of a set of swiss. or you can go the cheap route and get new bearings every month or two. you buy two or three sets of cheap bearings and you've already hit the amount you wouldve spent on swiss.
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yo I bought a set of those 25$ swiss bearings on ebay and they had to be a knock off. things barely moved out of the box and were all shot after skating two weeks at almost just the skate park - they didn't touch water. just a heads up!
pretty much. you can get a few years out of a set of swiss. or you can go the cheap route and get new bearings every month or two. you buy two or three sets of cheap bearings and you've already hit the amount you wouldve spent on swiss.
Agreed. I've been running two sets of Swiss for over 10+ years.
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I threw those ebay swiss in the trash and bought some hard lucks. Just wanted to let people know that it may be a scam.
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I get the swiss thing, trust me. They are all I ride.
Not so easy explaining it to a beginner whose whole set up cost the same amount.
Thanks for the heads up on the ebay swiss though. I don't want to get caught up in a scam...
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ninja (abec 7s), jive will back me up on this!
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I always ride the Indy's, feel really similar to Reds but are even cheaper.
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I'm riding a mix match set right now. A few reds, a few shake junts, maybe a mini logo or two. Like I said earlier I try to stick with reds when I can, but it really doesn't matter to me.
The only time I switch a bearing is when the cage shatters on one. I usually just take it out and replace it with one I have laying around in this baggy of a dozen or so old bearings I have. I'm pretty sure I haven't paid for a set of bearings in two years or so. I'll maybe break one a few times a year.
As long as the cages are nylon and not metal, and I can pop the shields off, I can make em last for a while.
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$15 Rout Supply bearings came in yesterday. Overall they look really high quality. Stainless steel races and balls, 1 removable shield, nylon cage and built in spacers/speedrings.
I only got to spend $15 minutes on them but they were just as fast as my broken in Swiss and the board was noticeably silent from any sort of rattling now that it's a full system instead of 5 parts per wheel
I know most people are just going to buy Bones anyway but I suggest checking these out. Cant beat a rust proof built in bearing
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/IMG_20150205_190914_zpsq5ai8r4a.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/IMG_20150205_190914_zpsq5ai8r4a.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/IMG_20150205_191025_zpszpwo4xdc.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/IMG_20150205_191025_zpszpwo4xdc.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/IMG_20150205_190953_zpsmloy1o5y.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/IMG_20150205_190953_zpsmloy1o5y.jpg.html)
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$15 Rout Supply bearings came in yesterday. Overall they look really high quality. Stainless steel races and balls, 1 removable shield, nylon cage and built in spacers/speedrings.
I only got to spend $15 minutes on them but they were just as fast as my broken in Swiss and the board was noticeably silent from any sort of rattling now that it's a full system instead of 5 parts per wheel
I know most people are just going to buy Bones anyway but I suggest checking these out. Cant beat a rust proof built in bearing
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/IMG_20150205_190914_zpsq5ai8r4a.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/IMG_20150205_190914_zpsq5ai8r4a.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/IMG_20150205_191025_zpszpwo4xdc.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/IMG_20150205_191025_zpszpwo4xdc.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/IMG_20150205_190953_zpsmloy1o5y.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/IMG_20150205_190953_zpsmloy1o5y.jpg.html)
I like your approach but can these really be as good a Swiss? Or did I Alex Olson myself?
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Oh yeah, a word of advice; avoid Gold bearings (as in the ones the wheel company Gold makes). My buddy Ethan bought a set because they were inexpensive and he had two explode on him and a few lock up on him all within the second session. He switched them out for some other bearings the next day.
The shields were non removable and the cages were metal, pretty much sure signs that were not going to be decent bearings.
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Why do people use spacers? They seem useless to me because they way the bearing is seated in the wheel doesn't allow the bearing to slide in any deeper.
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Why do people use spacers? They seem useless to me because they way the bearing is seated in the wheel doesn't allow the bearing to slide in any deeper.
If you use spacers and speed rings you can tighten the wheel until there is no play with the wheel moving side to side. It increases the life of the bearings and overall makes you setup feel solid.
This is essentially how your wheels should be setup for optimal use
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I like your approach but can these really be as good a Swiss? Or did I Alex Olson myself?
We'll find out how durable they are. The fact that they are built-ins and completely stainless steel gives them a huge advantage in my book.
Swiss are obviously proven great bearings and the standard by which everything else is judged but in my opinion the whole 2 bearings, a spacer and two speed rings per wheel seems really out dated versus this design.
I'm also not sure why all skateboard bearings aren't stainless since they will get wet eventually
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yo I bought a set of those 25$ swiss bearings on ebay and they had to be a knock off. things barely moved out of the box and were all shot after skating two weeks at almost just the skate park - they didn't touch water. just a heads up!
I got them and didn't have a problem with them. They are NOT supposed to "move" out of the box, because they're lubed up. If you hold them between your thumb and forefinger and spin them, they shouldn't spin for very long. Mine felt fucking solid and amazing, so I don't think you know what the hell you are talking about.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/IMG_20150205_191025_zpszpwo4xdc.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/IMG_20150205_191025_zpszpwo4xdc.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/steveboston/IMG_20150205_190953_zpsmloy1o5y.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/steveboston/media/IMG_20150205_190953_zpsmloy1o5y.jpg.html)
Reminds me of these, and these sucked.
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Yikes. that looks terrible
The fully builtin bearing style has been around for a while used primarily by longboarder nerds. They've been proved to be extremely durable and some of those dudes go like 70mph on them. Yes I'm losing all credibility by referencing wrongboarders but if they have a good idea I have no problem stealing it
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It just looks like more shit to break to be honest. Longboards aren't taking impact in to consideration either.
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It just looks like more shit to break to be honest. Longboards aren't taking impact in to consideration either.
It's actually less shit to break. It's not the same design as those reflex bearings. the ones i have are the same as any other 608 bearing but with the inner race extended to create a spacer and speed ring. the point of them is to have less individual parts
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Minilogos are your best best, they're reds with a steal cage on one side. $8 USD
Indy7s are great, I'm running Indy Blacks right now and they are very very smooth and fast. Jury is out on durability as I've only had them a couple of weeks.
Super reds aren't worth it, I'd get Indy 7s over them any day.
Swiss Six Balls are my favorite, you can actually feel the difference when skating compared to any 7 ball, at least I can. They're very, very smooth and fast. I'm sitting on 7 of them as I broke a race on one =(
Zealous Bearings for $13 built in spaces and rings, hell of a deal. Magic seems to use the same base/manu and relabels them (just like any company that sells bearings....)
http://www.vxb.com/SRCH.html?Store_Code=bearings&Search=skateboard (http://www.vxb.com/SRCH.html?Store_Code=bearings&Search=skateboard)
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I like your approach but can these really be as good a Swiss? Or did I Alex Olson myself?
We'll find out how durable they are. The fact that they are built-ins and completely stainless steel gives them a huge advantage in my book.
Swiss are obviously proven great bearings and the standard by which everything else is judged but in my opinion the whole 2 bearings, a spacer and two speed rings per wheel seems really out dated versus this design.
I'm also not sure why all skateboard bearings aren't stainless since they will get wet eventually
Ebbetts is the Swiss of ball caps....you pay a premium not buy China made products....
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well, i just opened some of the 'ebay swiss'. they didn't have spacers in the packaging and the plastic shrink wrap was different, too. do regular swiss have the lase etching around the edge? super red's and super 6's usually do if memory serves. oh well. if i had a rain board or cruiser i'd put them on that.
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Why do people use spacers? They seem useless to me because they way the bearing is seated in the wheel doesn't allow the bearing to slide in any deeper.
i actually cannot comprehened why people DON'T use them; no spacers makes your wheels/ trucks feel sooo soggy
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yo I bought a set of those 25$ swiss bearings on ebay and they had to be a knock off. things barely moved out of the box and were all shot after skating two weeks at almost just the skate park - they didn't touch water. just a heads up!
I as well bought those $25 swiss that someone on here posted just after christmas. shits did not break in. they were definitely defective so I explained it to ebay and luckily got my money back. thinking I should just go back to reds but what about shake junt? I saw some advertised as abec 7 for cheap are they worth it? I've never really given a shit about bearings because they never last me. all the tricks I seem to do are some kind of 180 variation so I blow em out pretty quickly
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all the tricks I seem to do are some kind of 180 variation so I blow em out pretty quickly
Just a heads up, this is why you use spacers and speed rings. The lateral force when you land something like a 180 and slide is what spacers disburse. Without them all of the force is going on the inner race of one bearing causing them to fail
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yo I bought a set of those 25$ swiss bearings on ebay and they had to be a knock off. things barely moved out of the box and were all shot after skating two weeks at almost just the skate park - they didn't touch water. just a heads up!
It's definitely a scam. They are counterfeit, they're are all coming from the same place and the market is flooded with them. And you can't buy Bones bearings without spacers at retail. It's a dead giveaway. Just buy Bones from your local or an online retailer you trust.
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yo I bought a set of those 25$ swiss bearings on ebay and they had to be a knock off. things barely moved out of the box and were all shot after skating two weeks at almost just the skate park - they didn't touch water. just a heads up!
When I say they barely moved out of the box, I mean that they barely moved. I spun them between my fingers it felt like there was literally something lodged in it. There wasn't. The things are just cheap knock offs. Really well reproduced though. Maybe you got some off a different vendor.
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So everyone who got the $25 Swiss bearings from eBay can confirm if they bought from rainee363? cause that's who i bought mine from and it didn't come with spacers although there supposed to have them as stated by the official website.
EDIT: The seller had a dropdown option on the page if you wanted it with or without spacers. So if you bought it with the spacers, it'll be $4 more. That's messed up if they originally come with it.
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I like your approach but can these really be as good a Swiss? Or did I Alex Olson myself?
We'll find out how durable they are. The fact that they are built-ins and completely stainless steel gives them a huge advantage in my book.
Swiss are obviously proven great bearings and the standard by which everything else is judged but in my opinion the whole 2 bearings, a spacer and two speed rings per wheel seems really out dated versus this design.
I'm also not sure why all skateboard bearings aren't stainless since they will get wet eventually
Ebbetts is the Swiss of ball caps....you pay a premium not buy China made products....
You should go and buy one of those LV rucksacks. Can you pick one up at a cool NY store?
In the end I just got them super reds. Bones always have the best bearings and will last a while.
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SKF-bearings.
They cost about 20 Euro and last forever.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/410w6KH4llL.jpg (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/410w6KH4llL.jpg)
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Shake Junt bearings are surprisingly good. I had the ABEC 5's and they were way better than any Bones Reds I've ever had. I've never really liked Reds... They crap out after about a month or two.
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Ive had aset of Lucky bearings, some Abec 5s, for ages now. I dont use them for my regular setup anymore ,just for the cruiser, but I skated them heavily for around 2-3 years, never did anything with them, maybe just some cleaning every 4 months, but never used any oil or anything ,and those fuckers are still going strong , after probably 4-5 years of heavy using.
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bones swiss ceramics
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Bought these enuff bearings for 8 euros, they're supose to be swiss but i dont really know what that means in this case.
I never had a set of legit bones swiss so i cant really compare, but so far from a 5 minute testdrive, they're fine.
i can give you guys a better review later, but if your in europe and poor, they're wort the 8 euros.
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from left to right: shake junts ab7, swiss, reds
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They have a metal cage?
I've never had much luck with metal caged bearings. They never last as long or perform better than nylon caged bearings, at least from my experience.
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Odd question but for anyone that bought Hard Luck bearings do they come with spacers? And has anyone skated the HL ceramics?
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Noticed super swiss dont come with spacers. Cheap bastards. Hope these weren't fake too!
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Noticed super swiss dont come with spacers. Cheap bastards. Hope these weren't fake too!
Legit super swiss come with spacers
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Odd question but for anyone that bought Hard Luck bearings do they come with spacers? And has anyone skated the HL ceramics?
The hard luck swiss (which are actually made in Switzerland unlike other "swiss" brands) do come with spacers, all other versions do now. The HL Ceramics are really good. FYI, they're the same as the Rush Bearings all weather ceramics which have a good reputation and have been around for a while
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Noticed super swiss dont come with spacers. Cheap bastards. Hope these weren't fake too!
Legit super swiss come with spacers
Last ones i got from my shop did not have spacers.
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Noticed super swiss dont come with spacers. Cheap bastards. Hope these weren't fake too!
Legit super swiss come with spacers
Weird. I have two sets and they both come with spacers. Skate One also specifies that they come with them http://www.skateone.com/bones-reg-super-swiss-6-bearings-8-pack (http://www.skateone.com/bones-reg-super-swiss-6-bearings-8-pack)
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Noticed super swiss dont come with spacers. Cheap bastards. Hope these weren't fake too!
Legit super swiss come with spacers
Weird. I have two sets and they both come with spacers. Skate One also specifies that they come with them http://www.skateone.com/bones-reg-super-swiss-6-bearings-8-pack (http://www.skateone.com/bones-reg-super-swiss-6-bearings-8-pack)
These were real. I didn't fuck around with any eBay shit.
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Noticed super swiss dont come with spacers. Cheap bastards. Hope these weren't fake too!
Legit super swiss come with spacers
Weird. I have two sets and they both come with spacers. Skate One also specifies that they come with them http://www.skateone.com/bones-reg-super-swiss-6-bearings-8-pack (http://www.skateone.com/bones-reg-super-swiss-6-bearings-8-pack)
These were real. I didn't fuck around with any eBay shit.
1) no one is making fake Swiss
2) don't ever bad mouth eBay
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if something seems too good to be true, it usually is.
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Noticed super swiss dont come with spacers. Cheap bastards. Hope these weren't fake too!
Legit super swiss come with spacers
Weird. I have two sets and they both come with spacers. Skate One also specifies that they come with them http://www.skateone.com/bones-reg-super-swiss-6-bearings-8-pack (http://www.skateone.com/bones-reg-super-swiss-6-bearings-8-pack)
These were real. I didn't fuck around with any eBay shit.
1) no one is making fake Swiss
2) don't ever bad mouth eBay
Sorry for confusion. The bearings I bought for students were super reds, not swiss. They had no spacers...
If you want to learn about fake/defected swiss, go to the "Defected Swiss" thread. They were being sold through eBay and a few Slappers got burnt.
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ya know how girls get penis envy? i'm like that about bearings. i always buy cheapo's then complain internally that everyone else gets more gnar for their buck. like i hafta mad dog to ollie something other people can tic tac at.
once my girl bought me some $50 jawns at rukus and they were ok, i still felt like i wasn't totally hauling balls but i had that pride like a chevy owner or something. for anyways, i was trying to go from detroit to chicago via CP railroad and the damn train bulls stoled all our shit. bye bye bearings!
my downstairs neighbor uses brake cleaner and grease, swears they last forever and they do seem fast but i'm not sure he doesn't secretly replace them like folger's crystals every once in a while.
i guess what i'm trying to say is spend the extra money and don't get yanked offa train.
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ya know how girls get penis envy? i'm like that about bearings. i always buy cheapo's then complain internally that everyone else gets more gnar for their buck. like i hafta mad dog to ollie something other people can tic tac at.
once my girl bought me some $50 jawns at rukus and they were ok, i still felt like i wasn't totally hauling balls but i had that pride like a chevy owner or something. for anyways, i was trying to go from detroit to chicago via CP railroad and the damn train bulls stoled all our shit. bye bye bearings!
my downstairs neighbor uses brake cleaner and grease, swears they last forever and they do seem fast but i'm not sure he doesn't secretly replace them like folger's crystals every once in a while.
i guess what i'm trying to say is spend the extra money and don't get yanked offa train.
This is amazing advice.
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Noticed super swiss dont come with spacers. Cheap bastards. Hope these weren't fake too!
Legit super swiss come with spacers
Weird. I have two sets and they both come with spacers. Skate One also specifies that they come with them http://www.skateone.com/bones-reg-super-swiss-6-bearings-8-pack (http://www.skateone.com/bones-reg-super-swiss-6-bearings-8-pack)
These were real. I didn't fuck around with any eBay shit.
1) no one is making fake Swiss
2) don't ever bad mouth eBay
Sorry for confusion. The bearings I bought for students were super reds, not swiss. They had no spacers...
If you want to learn about fake/defected swiss, go to the "Defected Swiss" thread. They were being sold through eBay and a few Slappers got burnt.
i stand corrected. i linked most of everyone to them too hahahahaha
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A friend of mine told me it was possible to order swiss bearings from industrial retailers and they were much less expensive because they aren't branded as skate bearings. Anyone ever look into buying bearings that are not skateboard specified?
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A friend of mine told me it was possible to order swiss bearings from industrial retailers and they were much less expensive because they aren't branded as skate bearings. Anyone ever look into buying bearings that are not skateboard specified?
yeah, i usedta buy bearings and hardware screws from the hardware store. one thing about skate parts form the hardware store, they suck! the pseudo shorty's would break and the bearings wouldn't last for a good gotdamn. i had a good mind to picket outside the hardware store and tell their customers 'true value sells junk' like the guy boycotting the fashion bug on a long ago episode of daily show. kilborn era.
i feel like the picket protest has grown trite over the yrs and no longer holds any weight so don't spend your time doing that, just go to the skate shop and buy some real berrings, ya cheap prick.
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A friend of mine told me it was possible to order swiss bearings from industrial retailers and they were much less expensive because they aren't branded as skate bearings. Anyone ever look into buying bearings that are not skateboard specified?
I looked into this and it didn't see any deals. Home Depot sells 608 bearings to go in drills, etc. but they cost around $5 for one bearing.
One thing I have wondered about was whether you could buy rollerblade bearings. I've seen Bones Swiss rollerblade bearings in a 16pack for around $60. Cheaper than two sets of skate bearings although the comments on Amazon mention something about rollerblades having axles of varying sizes.
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Noticed super swiss dont come with spacers. Cheap bastards. Hope these weren't fake too!
Legit super swiss come with spacers
Weird. I have two sets and they both come with spacers. Skate One also specifies that they come with them http://www.skateone.com/bones-reg-super-swiss-6-bearings-8-pack (http://www.skateone.com/bones-reg-super-swiss-6-bearings-8-pack)
These were real. I didn't fuck around with any eBay shit.
1) no one is making fake Swiss
2) don't ever bad mouth eBay
Sorry for confusion. The bearings I bought for students were super reds, not swiss. They had no spacers...
If you want to learn about fake/defected swiss, go to the "Defected Swiss" thread. They were being sold through eBay and a few Slappers got burnt.
i stand corrected. i linked most of everyone to them too hahahahaha
Those $23 swiss you posted are probably not counterfit, just stolen from a shop by the looks of the rest of the items sold by AAPawn.
That's way cheaper than a shop's cost ($30ish?), and they are selling a bunch of other bearings at or below cost.
Here's the dilemma assuming they are real -
They were either stolen from a real skateshop, or from somewhere like Zumiez.
Knowing that it's a possibility some skateshop got ripped off, do you still buy them because they're cheap?
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Odd question but for anyone that bought Hard Luck bearings do they come with spacers? And has anyone skated the HL ceramics?
http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=83119.0 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=83119.0)
Yes, they do come with spacers. My set were great for a few months but didn't last long and that's with minimal skateboarding... Just glad I didn't pay a usual ceramic price for them.
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Odd question but for anyone that bought Hard Luck bearings do they come with spacers? And has anyone skated the HL ceramics?
http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=83119.0 (http://www.slapmagazine.com/component/option,com_jfusion/Itemid,4/index.php?topic=83119.0)
Yes, they do come with spacers. My set were great for a few months but didn't last long and that's with minimal skateboarding... Just glad I didn't pay a usual ceramic price for them.
Weird. I just bought a set of these Hard Luck "ceramics" from SoCal Skateshop and they didn't come with spacers.
http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=45617 (http://socalskateshop.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=45617)
(http://blog.skatewarehouse.com/wp-content/uploads/Hard-Luck-360x288.jpg)
No spacers sucks for a set of bearings costing $45. Just no substitute for Bones Swiss.
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Maybe I'm wrong... I thought I had some with mine. I was using them with spacers...
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What say yall about these?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bones-SWISS-Precision-Competition-Skateboard-Bearings-Set-of-8-FREE-spacers-NEW-/151591803180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234b93592c (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bones-SWISS-Precision-Competition-Skateboard-Bearings-Set-of-8-FREE-spacers-NEW-/151591803180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234b93592c)
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Anyone ever try cheap shots by spitfire if I rip the shields off and lube up with sewing machine oil do they break in good?
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What say yall about these?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bones-SWISS-Precision-Competition-Skateboard-Bearings-Set-of-8-FREE-spacers-NEW-/151591803180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234b93592c (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bones-SWISS-Precision-Competition-Skateboard-Bearings-Set-of-8-FREE-spacers-NEW-/151591803180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234b93592c)
If they're real, fantastic.
Swiss last you years and years. If you clean them 2/3 at least...
I'd rather spend $45 on some real swiss and not have to fuck around with e-bay tribunals etc.
They really are probably cheaper than most other bearings in terms of life-span.
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What say yall about these?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bones-SWISS-Precision-Competition-Skateboard-Bearings-Set-of-8-FREE-spacers-NEW-/151591803180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234b93592c (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bones-SWISS-Precision-Competition-Skateboard-Bearings-Set-of-8-FREE-spacers-NEW-/151591803180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234b93592c)
If they're real, fantastic.
Swiss last you years and years. If you clean them 2/3 at least...
I'd rather spend $45 on some real swiss and not have to fuck around with e-bay tribunals etc.
They really are probably cheaper than most other bearings in terms of life-span.
Well from experience of having both the eBay Swiss and the actually Swiss that you get from a local skate shop makes you decide to just go on and pay for the legitimate ones. I've managed to return and got my refund for the swiss and also that ceramics that i didn't get to use. The eBay Swiss are shut! i could feel the slowness as oppose to the real swiss where it's smooth and fast as hell.
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I ordered some $23 ebay swiss just to check out the reproduction quality, given that they are knock-offs. Mine had spacers in the box and every thing looks pretty spot on, except that the font on the sticker is slightly more bold and the "care and maintentance" instructions are not centered on the piece of paper. I'm gonna hook'em up for shits and giggles. I'll report back.
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back in his 'vert dog' days fred durst was sold counterfeit bearings once. just once.
Limp Bizkit - Counterfeit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDdGrlylcEU#)
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Rusty bearings and if real broke musty bearings will do
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Anyone ever try cheap shots by spitfire if I rip the shields off and lube up with sewing machine oil do they break in good?
I haven't used the cheapshots, but I had the burners and they were pretty good. My friend had the cheapshots and he liked them. I'd say go for it, if you don't like them, you're only down $10 so it's not too bad.
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Fuck bearings, let's talk about Ebbit's hats. Can anyone pick up some good genuine ones on the Bay?
Not fake fakes though.
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What say yall about these?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bones-SWISS-Precision-Competition-Skateboard-Bearings-Set-of-8-FREE-spacers-NEW-/151591803180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234b93592c (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bones-SWISS-Precision-Competition-Skateboard-Bearings-Set-of-8-FREE-spacers-NEW-/151591803180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234b93592c)
If they're real, fantastic.
Swiss last you years and years. If you clean them 2/3 at least...
I'd rather spend $45 on some real swiss and not have to fuck around with e-bay tribunals etc.
They really are probably cheaper than most other bearings in terms of life-span.
Well from experience of having both the eBay Swiss and the actually Swiss that you get from a local skate shop makes you decide to just go on and pay for the legitimate ones. I've managed to return and got my refund for the swiss and also that ceramics that i didn't get to use. The eBay Swiss are shut! i could feel the slowness as oppose to the real swiss where it's smooth and fast as hell.
Word, i won't risk it. Looking back in the thread, lot of folks seem to not have had any luck with the ebay swiss. Indy blacks look promising in the meantime.
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reds have lasted me like almost 2 years now lol
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Anyone ever try cheap shots by spitfire if I rip the shields off and lube up with sewing machine oil do they break in good?
spitfire need to exit the bearing game, tried all their offerings. overall poor longtivity and just dont roll well
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Only set of spitfire bearings I've had were the Classics (blue shields) and I was not a fan. It seemed like it was impossible to break them in. After a month of skating them they felt still felt sluggish. They just wouldn't break in, which I thought was weird.
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Just wanted to confirm what I wrote in another thread, that the eBay Reds I bought were definitely fakes, so beware when hunting for cheap priced ones.
Bought a new pair of genuine Reds from the local shop the other day and all the differences I listed before were still present:
Packaging on the fakes is nearly the same but the letters in the UPC code were a slightly less bold font. "Made in China" is written in an grey tint on the genuine bearings.
The edges of the races (especially the inner races) are less beveled on the fakes. Much less polished and more tool marks present as well.
The ball retainer (the plastic thing the holds the balls) IS beveled. On real Reds the retainer has a flat back with squared off edges.
The writing on the shield looks like "BONESTM" and "REDSTM". On real Reds the "TM" is in a half size font. e.g. "BonesTM"
Lube seemed less heavy than speed cream. Smells different.
Seller was this guy, who also sells Swiss at $18 a pop: http://www.ebay.com/usr/goodwint999 (http://www.ebay.com/usr/goodwint999)
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Rockin Ron is back in business. Say what you want about the man, he assembles a killer bearing easily on par with Bones Swiss for $27...
http://www.rocketsskateboardbearings.com/rocknronsbearings.htm (http://www.rocketsskateboardbearings.com/rocknronsbearings.htm)
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My local skateshop when I was a kid had a bunch of bearings from a hardware store.. They would take all kinds of abuse, an they were like $1 each.
I'm pretty sure you could find really good bearings if you start looking into industrial bearing manufacturers. Hell, it's probably the same guys who make the bearings for skate companies anyway, but without the markup.
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I've had luck with Autobahn bearings, they're a cheap eight dollars at the local shop. They last awhile with regular cleanings. Last year I invested in Bones Swiss Ceramics and proceeded to snap nearly half the cages in a month. :-[ I can't see a justification for the price tag.
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I don't know if or how well known Modus Bearings are for you guys over there, but if you can get hands on a set of modus blue's, I highly recommend them for a great alround cheap set of bearings, but remember to always pop the cases off..
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Rockin Ron is back in business. Say what you want about the man, he assembles a killer bearing easily on par with Bones Swiss for $27...
http://www.rocketsskateboardbearings.com/rocknronsbearings.htm (http://www.rocketsskateboardbearings.com/rocknronsbearings.htm)
Oh shit yeah!
If you are going spend the coin, go with rockin ron or bones swiss six (not swiss or ceramics, swiss six).
Bones super reds weren't worth it compared to indy 7s (amazing deal)
Cheap stuff, MLs are great, buy two sets for when some crap out and keep the 'winners'
Spit Cheapshots - I still have some, use them as fillers until they die
I've recently been running Indy blacks and andale 7s - out of the gate the indys are fast as hell, andale not so much and after 4 sessions with them they still feel slow and one bearing has already wonked out forcing me to remove the shields.