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Title: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: Oprah Winfrey on March 13, 2015, 11:56:39 AM
(http://www.backcountry.com/images/items/large/NKE/NKE00AP/DARGRECAC.jpg)

The Ghost

http://www.backcountry.com/nike-sb-ghost-skate-shoe-mens (http://www.backcountry.com/nike-sb-ghost-skate-shoe-mens)

The other one that's a "team model" of the janoski. Pretty sad such a giant company cheaps out on paying royalties to riders.
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: shit_for_brains on March 13, 2015, 12:03:11 PM
This is shocking news that nobody has been talking about for several years. You're gonna blow the lid off this thing.
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: shone237 on March 13, 2015, 12:17:13 PM
This week I spent $80 on Stefans for the 3rd time in a row, yet couldn't tell you one trick that guy has done or even who he rides for. Guess what matters more to me, a good skate shoe for myself or some other guy getting paid to skate?
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: JamesFardy on March 13, 2015, 12:29:25 PM
I've spent $80 on Stefans for the 3rd time in a row this week, yet couldn't tell you one trick that guy has done or even who he rides for. Guess what matters more to me, a good skate shoe for myself or some other guy getting paid to skate?

Are you bragging right now?
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: Tito on March 13, 2015, 12:54:21 PM
They always have these bootlegs at my local Ross. Never the real pro model besides PRod's, occasionally Jano's too.
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: oyolar on March 13, 2015, 01:08:44 PM
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I've spent $80 on Stefans for the 3rd time in a row this week, yet couldn't tell you one trick that guy has done or even who he rides for. Guess what matters more to me, a good skate shoe for myself or some other guy getting paid to skate?
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Are you bragging right now?

Definitely pulling the "too cool to keep with skating card."  You're honestly trying to act like you have no idea who Janoski is?
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: shit_for_brains on March 13, 2015, 01:19:13 PM
and he obviously rides for Nike you lying dipshit
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: Mr. Fink on March 13, 2015, 01:22:11 PM
I just spent $15,000 on boards and shoes and I don't even skate.
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: Swithflip on March 13, 2015, 01:24:07 PM
I don't give a fuck if the shoe has a pro name. I just want to buy a good shoe for  the lowest price. I work for this, I skate every day.
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: paraquat on March 13, 2015, 01:47:44 PM
I've spent $80 on Stefans for the 3rd time in a row this week, yet couldn't tell you one trick that guy has done or even who he rides for. Guess what matters more to me, a good skate shoe for myself or some other guy getting paid to skate?
2015 slap is killing it.
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: shone237 on March 13, 2015, 01:52:09 PM
not bragging at all, just pointing out that the sneaker is worth the money to me. A pair of canvas stefans last me 10x longer than any other skate shoe.


Yes I know who he is. No I don't care about him. Yes, I am too cool.
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: Frank on March 13, 2015, 01:52:32 PM
I've spent $80 on Stefans for the 3rd time in a row this week, yet couldn't tell you one trick that guy has done or even who he rides for. Guess what matters more to me, a good skate shoe for myself or some other guy getting paid to skate?

i couldn't tell, it's confusing, because, well, you basically pay him if you buy his pro model shoe but you don't care?

buying three pairs of full price pro models a week doesn't seem reasonable at all when there are always some colorways on sale somewhere, sounds more like you collect or some shit. and you call em stefans, as if these shoes are your fucking friends...

in the mother thread you said you were a designer. janoski obviously designed your favorite shoe, or so they say, so why not pay the dude for that if you are not familiar enough with his skating to legitimize your purchase on that. i'm sure you'd think it would suck if you design a shoe and people buy the cheaper knock off by the same company so you don't get paid royalties.

EDIT: ok your last post makes more sense, but i still think that attitude is weird as fuck...
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: Hercules Rockefeller on March 13, 2015, 01:53:10 PM
"i dont need cows, i get my milk from the carton."
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: lk130 on March 13, 2015, 01:54:34 PM
Their dwindling now because their stabbing themselves in the hand, too many riders, unpromoted guys.. A teams B teams and C teams, shoes that they've obsoleted followed up with cheaper replacements
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: shone237 on March 13, 2015, 01:55:32 PM
I mistyped.

I meant this week I purchased my 3rd pair, not my 3rd pair this week. sorry for the confusion.

Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: Frank on March 13, 2015, 01:56:16 PM
^

ha ha ok...
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: headtowall on March 13, 2015, 02:36:09 PM
HOW DARE A COMPANY USE A SIMILAR SILHOUETTE WITH SLIGHTLY LESS FEATURES MAKE A NEW BRANDED SHOE. THE FUCKING TRAVESTY!!!! People are fucking bozos.
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: Sold Out on March 13, 2015, 04:42:59 PM
not bragging at all, just pointing out that the sneaker is worth the money to me. A pair of canvas stefans last me 10x longer than any other skate shoe.


Yes I know who he is. No I don't care about him. Yes, I am too cool.

 ::)
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: imgne on March 13, 2015, 05:34:23 PM
This has been happening for a while now and I'm pretty sure I've said this a couple of times on here already, but...

Nike has a bit of a scheme to all of this, they make specifice shoes for each market they target, the funny thing about it all now however, its the lower cut margin shoes that are making Nike SB the most amount of money.

The scheme goes as follows;

Nike SB Pro - Nike SB Signature - Nike SB


Nike SB Pro is the top of the line, selling the likes of GT Blazers, Janoski Premiers, Dunks and Team Editions..
Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but the only places that seem to get these accounts are the big Skate store franchises or shops with team members affiliated with them.

Nike Signature is what most skate shops get offered, its a mix of Janoskies, P-rods, Kostons and all the Air Max affiliation, but also gets access to the standard Nike SB stuff.

Nike SB is the the range that is making Nike's name grow amongst the general populations, this range is sold everywhere! This holds all the 'ripoff' shoes at the lessor prices, but also is the place for Nike to sell off all the shoes that the two above ranges couldn't sell, which is why sometimes you'll walk into a surf shop and see a random Koston 1 floating about...
The whole ripoff stuff however, is just to give these shops the impression they're getting the core stuff, but not really, the problem however is these models sell more than the pro shoes do now, so nike is laughing to the bank because there's less royalties involved.

These models in particular are the most obvious.

Project Ba > Ghost
Kostons > Rabona
Janoski's > Satires & now the Portmore

Despite all the bullshit, this isn't new to the shoe and further more the skate shoe industry, Cons, Adidas, Vans, Globe, DC & Etnies have all been doing it for years and taking turns at when each shoes has been popular.
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: lk130 on March 13, 2015, 07:14:12 PM
The Gt blazer hardly quantifies as a full pro model for me, the shoes of the like that are increasing and knock off's in the NikeSb lineup are those such as the squadron(where at glances I didn't even notice) (http://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/nike-sb-team-edition-squadron-blue.jpg)
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: lk130 on March 13, 2015, 07:17:36 PM
Emerica stopped doing it less and look at all the pro models
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: doublesteveburger on March 13, 2015, 07:20:36 PM
what's a nike? I'm so fucking tight dude
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: oyolar on March 13, 2015, 07:31:25 PM
Emerica stopped doing it less and look at all the pro models

Sidebar/unrelated, is Emerica making any non-pro models right now? At least that their riders actually skate?
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: lk130 on March 13, 2015, 07:50:38 PM
Reynolds kind of took the unrelated shoes, it made more sense
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: I_Respect_Wood on March 13, 2015, 09:10:34 PM
I don't give a fuck if the shoe has a pro name. I just want to buy a good shoe for  the lowest price. I work for this, I skate every DAMN day.
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: lk130 on March 13, 2015, 09:27:26 PM
I had to pray for tiger woods man, it's travesty for that service. .it's probably alot of years for residuals on his full name
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: Otis Fatona-Pinet on March 13, 2015, 10:10:15 PM
not bragging at all, just pointing out that the sneaker is worth the money to me. A pair of canvas stefans last me 10x longer than any other skate shoe.


Yes I know who he is. No I don't care about him. Yes, I am too cool.

So you're trolling right?
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: skrub on March 13, 2015, 11:02:49 PM
Why anyone would use Nike skate shoes is beyond me.  If you want a cheap unbranded shoe just buy Vans.
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: j....soy..... on March 13, 2015, 11:30:39 PM
Build it up.....then blow it out.....

If you could have your cake and eat it too....why wouldn't you?

Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: Jares on March 14, 2015, 02:07:21 AM
So gnarly...

http://www.kpho.com/story/28362012/tiger-woods-cant-name-his-restaurant-tiger-woods?autostart=true (http://www.kpho.com/story/28362012/tiger-woods-cant-name-his-restaurant-tiger-woods?autostart=true)
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: headtowall on March 14, 2015, 08:55:52 AM
Why anyone would use Nike skate shoes is beyond me.  If you want a cheap unbranded shoe just buy Vans.
then have to buy another pair 15 mins later
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: Spider on drugs on March 14, 2015, 10:25:25 AM
Why anyone would use Nike skate shoes is beyond me.  If you want a cheap unbranded shoe just buy Vans.
I dont know about other nike sb models, but im still skating a pair of janoski mids that i started to skate in september.
I dont do a lot of kickflips /treflips and of course im a fan of shoe goo but i skate arround 2/3 times a week and i've walked arround on them a bunch of times, they're still in one piece and the sole is not bald at all.
I'm not a big fan of nike but they clearly know what they're doing.
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: lk130 on March 14, 2015, 11:23:21 AM
That might be a good shoe
I had a pair and they were good
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: victor doom on March 14, 2015, 02:55:56 PM
Im skating in the GT Blazer, and I cant imagine skating anything else. Nike is full of lame shit, but when it comes to shoe quality, they really cant be beat
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: SHARPSHOOTER on March 14, 2015, 03:43:45 PM
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not bragging at all, just pointing out that the sneaker is worth the money to me. A pair of canvas stefans last me 10x longer than any other skate shoe.


Yes I know who he is. No I don't care about him. Yes, I am too cool.
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 ::)
Yeah total bull shit. Canvas shoes last for like one hour of skating.
Title: Re: Nike making knock offs of their own pro models
Post by: sleepypancakes on March 14, 2015, 08:25:57 PM
Nike making money*

Nike wins.