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General Discussion => WHATEVER => Topic started by: The Woodsman on February 19, 2016, 01:15:56 PM
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He claims hes $53 million dollars in debt and "needs access to more money to bring more beautiful ideas to the world"
Some of his tweets are amazing, if you want a good laugh you should look at them.
He tweets at mark on the 14th and then the stuff he posts on the 15th is crazy
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kanye-west-begs-mark-zuckerberg-for-money-in-twitter-rant-w164323 (http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/kanye-west-begs-mark-zuckerberg-for-money-in-twitter-rant-w164323)
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Dude is the black version of Jereme Rogers , but even crazier
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A really beautiful idea would be stopping Kanye from making more music.
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FUCK ... GOD DAM IT
I really strongly dislike Kanye, I would even go so far as to say I actually hate him. He is the worst human ever, and completely delusional.. at least Jeremy is kinda funny with the crazy antics he does. I was just telling someone about how I would love to never talk about him or the Kardashians ever again, but with medias strong ass fucking boner over them it's fucking impossible to go a day without hearing about them or seeing their faces. Now I come to a skate related fourm to seek refuge, AND HIS FUCKING HERE TOO....
FUCK KANYE WEST
He's the worlds largest ignorant imbecile
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FUCK ... GOD DAM IT
I really strongly dislike Kanye, I would even go so far as to say I actually hate him. He is the worst human ever, and completely delusional.. at least Jeremy is kinda funny with the crazy antics he does. I was just telling someone about how I would love to never talk about him or the Kardashians ever again, but with medias strong ass fucking boner over them it's fucking impossible to go a day without hearing about them or seeing their faces. Now I come to a skate related fourm to seek refuge, AND HIS FUCKING HERE TOO....
FUCK KANYE WEST
He's the worlds largest ignorant imbecile
I feel the same way you do but I don't let it upset me man, I think it's hilarious. If his ideas were so beautiful he wouldn't be $53 million dollars in debt. Just laugh at how crazy and delusional he is.
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FUCK ... GOD DAM IT
I really strongly dislike Kanye, I would even go so far as to say I actually hate him. He is the worst human ever, and completely delusional.. at least Jeremy is kinda funny with the crazy antics he does. I was just telling someone about how I would love to never talk about him or the Kardashians ever again, but with medias strong ass fucking boner over them it's fucking impossible to go a day without hearing about them or seeing their faces. Now I come to a skate related fourm to seek refuge, AND HIS FUCKING HERE TOO....
FUCK KANYE WEST
He's the worlds largest ignorant imbecile
I feel the same way you do but I don't let it upset me man, I think it's hilarious. If his ideas were so beautiful he wouldn't be $53 million dollars in debt. Just laugh at how crazy and delusional he is.
I'm with Minty. I find it upsetting that we continually get bombarded with his stupid ego and music when there's more important stuff that should be getting shoved in our faces.
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FUCK ... GOD DAM IT
I really strongly dislike Kanye, I would even go so far as to say I actually hate him. He is the worst human ever, and completely delusional.. at least Jeremy is kinda funny with the crazy antics he does. I was just telling someone about how I would love to never talk about him or the Kardashians ever again, but with medias strong ass fucking boner over them it's fucking impossible to go a day without hearing about them or seeing their faces. Now I come to a skate related fourm to seek refuge, AND HIS FUCKING HERE TOO....
FUCK KANYE WEST
He's the worlds largest ignorant imbecile
I haven't watched TV in 5 years and adblock helps with the internet. I only learn about this stuff from people complaining about them and wishing they didn't know them.
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That Pizza Hut UK shit was funny though. "If you need some dough, come knead some dough." We got your CV, you start tomorrow.
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Mark will be glad he did it when President West is appointing his funky white boy cabinet in 2020
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i bet kim would never trust kanye to be alone with their kids
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Kim kardashian is a good mother
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Why hasn't anyone beaten the fuck out of Kanye yet? He should just shut the fuck up and come out as a gay fish already
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FUCK KANYE WEST
He's the worlds largest ignorant imbecile
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Anyone else watching The People Vs. OJ Simpson? I keep imagining OJ being played by Kanye over Cuba Gooding Jr. and cracking the fuck up.
Would never work . Kanye would break script , saying he did the murders and hes the best murderer in the world . And hes one of the most influential murderers that ever existed and then punch Taylor Swift
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I wish Cuba and Schwimmer would switch roles
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i aint sayin he's a golddigger
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someone should send all kanyes cd's to mark david chapman just in case he ever makes parole
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The Kardashians will eventually get him to become Kanyetta and he'll sell a ton of Jeezy high-heels. Debt problem solved.
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The way I see it, it's a just a good marketing scheme on his behalf. He knows how to promote his shit.
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The way I see it, it's a just a good marketing scheme on his behalf. He knows how to promote his shit.
do you wear dgk i heart haters shirts? i don't get how people think bad publicity sells things.....if some of his fans are also taylor fans they might not buy his cd.....and if you're not a kanye fan and you see him acting like a dumb ass that will somehow make you want to pay 30 dollars for some horrible auto tune music?
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FUCK ... GOD DAM IT
I really strongly dislike Kanye, I would even go so far as to say I actually hate him. He is the worst human ever, and completely delusional.. at least Jeremy is kinda funny with the crazy antics he does. I was just telling someone about how I would love to never talk about him or the Kardashians ever again, but with medias strong ass fucking boner over them it's fucking impossible to go a day without hearing about them or seeing their faces. Now I come to a skate related fourm to seek refuge, AND HIS FUCKING HERE TOO....
FUCK KANYE WEST
He's the worlds largest ignorant imbecile
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The way I see it, it's a just a good marketing scheme on his behalf. He knows how to promote his shit.
I also own the matching snap back foo ! People are talking about him across every form of media right now, how is that not good publicity ? People don't listen to Kanye because they respect his douchy attitude, they listen to his music because they like it. Most people that aren't fans of him won't buy anything, but you do have that small percentage that will, and when you have over millions and millions of people paying attention to your buffooneries, that small percentage adds up pretty quick.
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FUCK ... GOD DAM IT
I really strongly dislike Kanye, I would even go so far as to say I actually hate him. He is the worst human ever, and completely delusional.. at least Jeremy is kinda funny with the crazy antics he does. I was just telling someone about how I would love to never talk about him or the Kardashians ever again, but with medias strong ass fucking boner over them it's fucking impossible to go a day without hearing about them or seeing their faces. Now I come to a skate related fourm to seek refuge, AND HIS FUCKING HERE TOO....
FUCK KANYE WEST
He's the worlds largest ignorant imbecile
I feel the same way you do but I don't let it upset me man, I think it's hilarious. If his ideas were so beautiful he wouldn't be $53 million dollars in debt. Just laugh at how crazy and delusional he is.
I'm with Minty. I find it upsetting that we continually get bombarded with his stupid ego and music when there's more important stuff that should be getting shoved in our faces.
the exact reason why the industry has created "characters" like kanye. to feed the dumb masses with easily digestible material. there are extremely horrible things happening all over the world and still, k.w's regular life is in the forefront of all media
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i bet kim would never trust kanye to be alone with their kids
hes good.
(http://i.imgur.com/ol2Q6Cg.jpg)
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It must feel great to be able to be that delusional
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Zuckerberg such a cheapass its only a billy
Worth it just to see what Kanye does
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i bet kim would never trust kanye to be alone with their kids
hes good.
(http://i.imgur.com/ol2Q6Cg.jpg)
she took the photo...
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i bet kim would never trust kanye to be alone with their kids
hes good.
(http://i.imgur.com/ol2Q6Cg.jpg)
not possible. she would have to be in it if she took it.
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i bet kim would never trust kanye to be alone with their kids
hes good.
(http://i.imgur.com/ol2Q6Cg.jpg)
not possible. she would have to be in it if she took it.
true.....must have been hired help taking the photo and watching him. still kanye was never alone with the kids...
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FUCK ... GOD DAM IT
I really strongly dislike Kanye, I would even go so far as to say I actually hate him. He is the worst human ever, and completely delusional.. at least Jeremy is kinda funny with the crazy antics he does. I was just telling someone about how I would love to never talk about him or the Kardashians ever again, but with medias strong ass fucking boner over them it's fucking impossible to go a day without hearing about them or seeing their faces. Now I come to a skate related fourm to seek refuge, AND HIS FUCKING HERE TOO....
FUCK KANYE WEST
He's the worlds largest ignorant imbecile
Same team here yo!
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i bet kim would never trust kanye to be alone with their kids
hes good.
(http://i.imgur.com/ol2Q6Cg.jpg)
not possible. she would have to be in it if she took it.
how is he affording help if he's 53 or whatever million in debt?? Someone tell that maid she ain't getting paid!
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i bet kim would never trust kanye to be alone with their kids
hes good.
(http://i.imgur.com/ol2Q6Cg.jpg)
not possible. she would have to be in it if she took it.
how is he affording help if he's 53 or whatever million in debt?? Someone tell that maid she ain't getting paid!
i was watching tmz last night and saw them talking about this photo. turns out they were in a store furniture shopping and took a nap break...kim k behind the camera!! the kid is safe.
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I think by 53 million 'in debt' he just means that's what he needs to start whatever crazy business ideas he has. I'm betting he's still super rich personally.
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I think by 53 million 'in debt' he just means that's what he needs to start whatever crazy business ideas he has. I'm betting he's still super rich personally.
Exactly. It's like how Donald Trump has declared bankruptcy three or four times but still has one of the largest houses in the US and his name on giant buildings in NYC, Atlantic City, and Vegas. Once you are at that point, If you have any brains, you surround yourself with people smart enough to work the system (accountants, lawyers, etc.).
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#fuckkanye
http://helpkenyanotkanye.com/ (http://helpkenyanotkanye.com/)
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Does anybody now what time it is?
(http://i.imgur.com/7k8KFef.jpg)
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It's his own marketing scheme..
Make outlandish statements and unbelievable claims.. that are not always true.
Whether is positive or negative light, it's still publicity.. and it's just making him richer.
However, most people don't understand this, and fall prey to his own idiocracy.
This is exactly how the kardashians have made their dumbass empire. None of them obtain any talent.
But their marketing skills are of a new generation.
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It's his own marketing scheme..
Make outlandish statements and unbelievable claims.. that are not always true.
Whether is positive or negative light, it's still publicity.. and it's just making him richer.
However, most people don't understand this, and fall prey to his own idiocracy.
This is exactly how the kardashians have made their dumbass empire. None of them obtain any talent.
But their marketing skills are of a new generation.
you're saying he's just a troll? then why did he troll his own wedding with a 45 minute crazy rant/speech? still don't understand how 'acting' like a dumb ass would make people pay 30 dollars for a cd...
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It's his own marketing scheme..
Make outlandish statements and unbelievable claims.. that are not always true.
Whether is positive or negative light, it's still publicity.. and it's just making him richer.
However, most people don't understand this, and fall prey to his own idiocracy.
This is exactly how the kardashians have made their dumbass empire. None of them obtain any talent.
But their marketing skills are of a new generation.
We're talking about it right now aren't we?
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It's his own marketing scheme..
Make outlandish statements and unbelievable claims.. that are not always true.
Whether is positive or negative light, it's still publicity.. and it's just making him richer.
However, most people don't understand this, and fall prey to his own idiocracy.
This is exactly how the kardashians have made their dumbass empire. None of them obtain any talent.
But their marketing skills are of a new generation.
We're talking about it right now aren't we?
yeah and he's not getting a penny from it
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his album isn't even for sale. it is baffling that some people actually think he isn't extremely talented. he is without question one of the best producers of all time. also happens to be a complete idiot.
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he is without question one of the best producers of all time. also happens to be a complete idiot.
My ears must be broken then! 100% on the latter though
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do you like modern pop music though? does anyone like pop music and pop rap and hate kanye?
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do you like modern pop music though?
point taken...
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do you like modern pop music though? does anyone like pop music and pop rap and hate kanye?
why do you have to like the person? a lot of people hate mj but love his music. is he really one of the best producers...he just has money and works with people that are already big stars doesn't he? many other producers have created big stars. he's like every other mainstream artist. he makes 1-2 good songs and 25 horrible ones. some of the worst songs of alll timeee
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i meant to say 'does anyone like pop music and pop rap and hate kanye's music?'. my bad. i think he is a mostly hilarious/idiotic quote machine outside of his music, but yea i def agree u dont have to like him to like his music. or vice versa. just like in skating. colin provost seems like one of the worst dudes around, but i cant deny the talent
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He makes good beats, that's all I got.
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fuck Kanye
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kanye will be remembered for his persona, not his music.
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Not backing the guy at all, but I do think the thread title is taking this out of context (as well as Kanye not communicating his idea properly).
I am supposing he means that he wants to talk to Mark Z about figuring out a new way to distribute music on FB (or otherwise) that will actually make him $$$. I don't think he was looking to Mark to bail him out.
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It's his own marketing scheme..
Make outlandish statements and unbelievable claims.. that are not always true.
Whether is positive or negative light, it's still publicity.. and it's just making him richer.
However, most people don't understand this, and fall prey to his own idiocracy.
This is exactly how the kardashians have made their dumbass empire. None of them obtain any talent.
But their marketing skills are of a new generation.
We're talking about it right now aren't we?
We aren't talking about buying the CD we are talking my about how stupid it is to pay $30 for a Kanye CD.
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i meant to say 'does anyone like pop music and pop rap and hate kanye's music?'. my bad. i think he is a mostly hilarious/idiotic quote machine outside of his music, but yea i def agree u dont have to like him to like his music. or vice versa. just like in skating. colin provost seems like one of the worst dudes around, but i cant deny the talent
http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DKfbWcclqwRs&start1=225&video2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpRX2rGqdhJU&start2=0&authorName=straight (http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DKfbWcclqwRs&start1=225&video2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpRX2rGqdhJU&start2=0&authorName=straight)
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It's his own marketing scheme..
Make outlandish statements and unbelievable claims.. that are not always true.
Whether is positive or negative light, it's still publicity.. and it's just making him richer.
However, most people don't understand this, and fall prey to his own idiocracy.
This is exactly how the kardashians have made their dumbass empire. None of them obtain any talent.
But their marketing skills are of a new generation.
We're talking about it right now aren't we?
We aren't talking about buying the CD we are talking my about how stupid it is to pay $30 for a Kanye CD.
Well it's regular to buy any cd since you can download everything for free. And you can't argue that The Life of Pablo isn't one of the best albums in a long time
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It's his own marketing scheme..
Make outlandish statements and unbelievable claims.. that are not always true.
Whether is positive or negative light, it's still publicity.. and it's just making him richer.
However, most people don't understand this, and fall prey to his own idiocracy.
This is exactly how the kardashians have made their dumbass empire. None of them obtain any talent.
But their marketing skills are of a new generation.
We're talking about it right now aren't we?
We aren't talking about buying the CD we are talking my about how stupid it is to pay $30 for a Kanye CD.
We're also talking about the fact that a Kanye album either just dropped or is about to. I couldn't tell you any other hip hop albums that came out in the past couple months. I guess Beyonce had one, but I only know that because of her separate controversy. You could say "fuck Kanye West and his new album" and some people will just hear "new Kanye album"
Kanye is a dork, but he seems pretty harmless. He's much less of a piece of shit than like Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, or OJ Simpson.
He's also clearly one of the most talented hip hop artists out right now. The reality is, people would be saying everything he says about himself if he would shut up, be a bit modest, and let them. But since he can't, the goal is to knock him down from his over-the-top arrogance.
The "the kids are safe, Kim is there" is irony right? Kim Kardashian has never been responsible for anything in her life.
I'd start talking about People vs. OJ, but we need a new thread. Between John Travolta's weirdness and David Schwimmer talking about "Uncle Juice" there are endless hilarious things to discuss about that show.
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i hate the kardashians, but kim seems pretty average...dumb and self centered yes, but probably a caring mother. kanye is manic and has a horrible temper. i don't know why you are comparing him to pedos like woody and roman. i'm saying the kids are safe not being left by themselves with an unstable person like kanye. he obviously has something wrong with him. whether it's mental illness or drugs. he has attacked paparazzi, and often blows up in peoples faces. i wouldn't say he is harmless. he's very irrational and easily upset.
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I've not heard a single track from The Life of Pablo, but I can without a shadow of a doubt say that it will NOT be "one of the best albums released in a long time".
I could list about ten albums that have come out in the last 5 years (or ten) that will be better than this album. You could say it's my opinion and you would be right, but my opinion in this case also happens to be fact.
Full Disclosure: I don't know enough about Kanye West to have strong feelings about him one way or the other, but I've heard enough of his music to realise that he can make music, but it's nothing special and certainly hasn't qualified as anywhere near the best of any sort of music. I did quite like Goldigger at one point in time though.
Here are a few albums released in the last 5 years that will definitley be better than TLOP:
NIN - Hesitation Marks
Warpaint - Warpaint.
Django Django - Born Under Saturn
Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly
The Icarus Line - All Things Under Heaven
The Asteroids Galaxy Tour - Bring Us Together
M.I.A - Matangi
Oh, and probably that Beck album from 2014.
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I've not heard a single track from The Life of Pablo, but I can without a shadow of a doubt say that it will NOT be "one of the best albums released in a long time".
I could list about ten albums that have come out in the last 5 years (or ten) that will be better than this album. You could say it's my opinion and you would be right, but my opinion in this case also happens to be fact.
How deliciously ironic, swap a couple of the albums around in your post and it sounds exactly like something Kanye would say.
For what it's worth, there are a large number of people and quite a few music journos out there who'd say Kanye's MBDTF is the best album of the last 5 and a bit years. Not what I'd choose but you could do a lot worse.
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I've not heard a single track from The Life of Pablo, but I can without a shadow of a doubt say that it will NOT be "one of the best albums released in a long time".
I could list about ten albums that have come out in the last 5 years (or ten) that will be better than this album. You could say it's my opinion and you would be right, but my opinion in this case also happens to be fact.
For what it's worth, there are a large number of people and quite a few music journos out there who'd say Kanye's MBDTF is the best album of the last 5 and a bit years. Not what I'd choose but you could do a lot worse.
I was hoping that arrogance would come across nicely as a little bit of a reference to Kanye ;)
But seriously, I'm sure there are music journo's etc out there who are convinced that his albums / music ranks as one of the best in the last while etc, and yeah art is subjective. I'm not a music nazi of any sort, I think nearly any genre of music is worthy of consideration and praise (apart from perhaps racist/ nazi punk). Let's try "objectively" here though. From the little I've heard of his music I don't think it's a far stretch to state that there will be countless albums of the last X amount of years that are objectively better than a Kanye album, in that they will have one or all of the following:
- Origional melodies
- More unique and less derivative lyrics (that also perhaps deal with a wider range of topics, or perhaps one topic from different angles)
- No auto-tuning
- A good use and amalgamation of all "sounds" the band / person uses.
- Not resort to cliches ( I suppose I mainly mean lyrically and in terms of subject).
I'm not trying to give guidelines or quantify what constitutes as "good" music, but rather playing devil's advocate and trying to point out that if we were to be objective about an album and music in general there is a strong argument to be made for a Kanye West album NOT being in the top 10 or 20 albums of 5/10/20 years.
I think this is a great topic for debate by the way!
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I've not heard a single track from The Life of Pablo, but I can without a shadow of a doubt say that it will NOT be "one of the best albums released in a long time".
I could list about ten albums that have come out in the last 5 years (or ten) that will be better than this album. You could say it's my opinion and you would be right, but my opinion in this case also happens to be fact.
For what it's worth, there are a large number of people and quite a few music journos out there who'd say Kanye's MBDTF is the best album of the last 5 and a bit years. Not what I'd choose but you could do a lot worse.
I was hoping that arrogance would come across nicely as a little bit of a reference to Kanye ;)
But seriously, I'm sure there are music journo's etc out there who are convinced that his albums / music ranks as one of the best in the last while etc, and yeah art is subjective. I'm not a music nazi of any sort, I think nearly any genre of music is worthy of consideration and praise (apart from perhaps racist/ nazi punk). Let's try "objectively" here though. From the little I've heard of his music I don't think it's a far stretch to state that there will be countless albums of the last X amount of years that are objectively better than a Kanye album, in that they will have one or all of the following:
- Origional melodies
- More unique and less derivative lyrics (that also perhaps deal with a wider range of topics, or perhaps one topic from different angles)
- No auto-tuning
- A good use and amalgamation of all "sounds" the band / person uses.
- Not resort to cliches ( I suppose I mainly mean lyrically and in terms of subject).
I'm not trying to give guidelines or quantify what constitutes as "good" music, but rather playing devil's advocate and trying to point out that if we were to be objective about an album and music in general there is a strong argument to be made for a Kanye West album NOT being in the top 10 or 20 albums of 5/10/20 years.
I think this is a great topic for debate by the way!
Not a great topic to debate, since like you said, art can't be objectively measured. None of the qualities you mention make music automatically better or worse or somehow more valuable. I've never been much of a Kanye fan at all, but after having to listen through the album a couple of times I have to say that to me it was surprisingly captivating and very different from what I assumed it to be.
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I know for sure none of the parameters I mentioned automatically make music better or worse, I just thought it was an interesting idea to consider. I took a about a minute to try and think what would be present in quote unquote GOOD music. But , you bring up a good term ; more valuable. I DO think that some music is more valuable in a way , culturally and artistically. But again, nearly impossible to measure.
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I know for sure none of the parameters I mentioned automatically make music better or worse, I just thought it was an interesting idea to consider. I took a about a minute to try and think what would be present in quote unquote GOOD music. But , you bring up a good term ; more valuable. I DO think that some music is more valuable in a way , culturally and artistically. But again, nearly impossible to measure.
I don't think it's impossible to measure, but every person has their own unique perception of what creates emotional value to them, so you can only measure how artistically valuable a certain piece of music is for you and trying to make a collage out of multiple peoples emotions is impossible and makes no sense imo. For some person some Migos song could be the most important piece of art in their whole life, while for someone else it might not create any significant feelings
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MBDTF is in my opinion one of the best albums of the 2010's thus far, and certainly, in my opinion, the best mainstream rap album of the 2010's.
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I know for sure none of the parameters I mentioned automatically make music better or worse, I just thought it was an interesting idea to consider. I took a about a minute to try and think what would be present in quote unquote GOOD music. But , you bring up a good term ; more valuable. I DO think that some music is more valuable in a way , culturally and artistically. But again, nearly impossible to measure.
I don't think it's impossible to measure, but every person has their own unique perception of what creates emotional value to them, so you can only measure how artistically valuable a certain piece of music is for you and trying to make a collage out of multiple peoples emotions is impossible and makes no sense imo. For some person some Migos song could be the most important piece of art in their whole life, while for someone else it might not create any significant feelings
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPtJpItpLRY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPtJpItpLRY#)
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Haven't read this thread but I will say that finally releasing the Life of Pablo today on all the major music websites may be proof that Kanye knows how to troll people better than anyone on the planet.