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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: Mongoloid on July 13, 2016, 07:30:18 PM
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Anybody else have this issue? I've barely skated my current pair, and it is incredibly irritating after every flip trick fuck up to have to bang them out on the nearest object just to be able to roll.
For years I skated Krux exclusively, and never had a single issue. It's a shame because Thunder's feel nice, but i've even gone to the extreme of purchasing Bones race reds in an attempt to lessen the severity.
I'd say fuck it an go back to Krux, but as long as they are putting jellybeans and hotdogs on their shit I have no interest.
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yeah that must be a defect, i never had that problem before and my board goes primo more than it lands on its wheels
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take photos of it and contact deluxe
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DLX has clutch customer service especially for defect. I had axle slip on my last pair of thunders but after like 1 year of skating so i felt it wasn't worthy of getting reimbursed. I had that with a set of Ace's within a month but am living overseas so didn't bother hitting em up for a replacement
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my previous set of thunders had an issue of missing metal in the pivot cup that resulted to the pivot bushing totally torn, the hanger pivot worn off (the metal wore off from grinding against metal) and the trucks turning to one direction. also, got slight slipping axle withing a few days of skating. had to get rid of that set in less than 4 months because i could not stand the way they skated, though they felt the best for the first 2 days.
i now got a new set of thunders and got slipping axle within a few hours of skating. nothing major but its there and its annoying.
both sets were 149 hollows.
if i won't forget i will upload photos of the pivot cup issue after work. i don't even know if its worth asking for a replacement since i live in Europe.
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I'm experiencing the same.
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take photos of it and contact deluxe
See I'd consider doing that, but it's rather quite difficult to do without complete disassembly. It's also something that is kind of hard to visually document with photograph (video may be easier?). I also think one of my rear axle's is partially bent (either that or my wheel is malformed, and the bearings aren't seated straight).
Where this is worrying to me is I have multiple unused sets of thunders that I'm now worrying are going to experience the same problem. Maybe if thunder placed a 1/8" knob central on the axle, they would stay seated snug within the hanger? I know we are talking additional cost here, but the issue is pretty substantial.
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It amazes me that axle slip still exists.
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It amazes me that axle slip still exists.
Me too man, It seems like an easy enough a design problem to fix.
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Not trying to sound smart or anything, but shouldn't spacers and washers make axle slip irrelevant? ???
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Not trying to sound smart or anything, but shouldn't spacers and washers make axle slip irrelevant? ???
Spacers make zero difference in case of axle slippage.
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I've been riding thunders on-and-off for quite a few years and haven't had any problems with axle slip until recently. I just got a new set of the regular raw 147's and within the first session, I noticed that one wheel had gotten really tight on one side, and the wheel on the other side got really loose. I re-tightened the nuts on both sides to get them even again and discovered that the axle had indeed slipped a few mm to one side. It kinda bummed me out that it happened so early on.
I'm surprised that no truck company has found a viable solution to the problem of axle slippage yet. I remember Grind King had some lame gimmicky thing like "floating axles" that was basically a loose axle with inserts that were supposed to keep your wheels from locking up.
(http://oldschoolskates.com/images/img_7746.jpg)
There's gotta be a better solution, maybe something like a hidden pin in the hangar/axle that keeps the axle locked in place.
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Never had that problem on Thunders but if you do get it, its probably better to readjust your wheels, rather than bang the shit out of the axle each time.
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I had a pair of Titan Ti-Lites when they first came out. crappy trucks overall but they solved the axle slip issue with a simple pin through the axle
(http://www.sessionstore.com.br/imagens/produtos/83d7c15d15bbc084c7b28e8ce148d90a.jpg)
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Never had that problem on Thunders but if you do get it, its probably better to readjust your wheels, rather than bang the shit out of the axle each time.
Readjusting the nut would actually take as much, if not more effort, and doesn't change the fact that the initial problem exists.
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Theeve makes a truck called the "TiH" which they claim has no axle. $150 a set.
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Never had that problem on Thunders but if you do get it, its probably better to readjust your wheels, rather than bang the shit out of the axle each time.
Readjusting the nut would actually take as much, if not more effort, and doesn't change the fact that the initial problem exists.
True but it can make the problem worse. And trash your axle threads and bearings. Not recommended.
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I have pretty much had problems w axel slip for 20 years.....never had a truck that didn't slip....I equate it to a bad shooting percentage flat ground....
Have the tih's and obviously problem fixed.....it's all one piece no axel...they grind funny and are far from a cool brand but I like em.... Not gonna try and convince anyone though they are the truck for them....I reserve that for Ace.....
My new theory relates to those bones race reds that allow you to ride the nuts super tight....I think that if there is zero play, there should be no room for any slip. I haven't tried it out yet though because I already have the Tih's......
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I'd say fuck it an go back to Krux, but as long as they are putting jellybeans and hotdogs on their shit I have no interest.
I scraped the paint off mine with a scissors
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I thought axle slip didn't exist anymore but apparently it does. I must have gotten lucky with my current pair of Indys 'cause I've landed on them primo a lot but no axle slip yet (knock on wood).
Do any truck companies design the axle in two parts so there would be solid aluminum between them? Or would that make the axle too weak?
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Never had that problem on Thunders but if you do get it, its probably better to readjust your wheels, rather than bang the shit out of the axle each time.
Readjusting the nut would actually take as much, if not more effort, and doesn't change the fact that the initial problem exists.
True but it can make the problem worse. And trash your axle threads and bearings. Not recommended.
You are definitely spot on that my method of correcting the issue is not exactly the best, but it more or less about not taking myself out of the session every so often to fix the problem.
I have pretty much had problems w axel slip for 20 years.....never had a truck that didn't slip....I equate it to a bad shooting percentage flat ground....
Have the tih's and obviously problem fixed.....it's all one piece no axel...they grind funny and are far from a cool brand but I like em.... Not gonna try and convince anyone though they are the truck for them....I reserve that for Ace.....
My new theory relates to those bones race reds that allow you to ride the nuts super tight....I think that if there is zero play, there should be no room for any slip. I haven't tried it out yet though because I already have the Tih's......
This is for sure a factor in my skating nowadays. In my youth when I was able to skate every day I was freakishly consistent with my flip tricks, and overall board control. Having been off the board for a decade, and gaining nearly 30lbs in the interim I am sure my equipment is taking much more abuse these days.
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I'd say fuck it an go back to Krux, but as long as they are putting jellybeans and hotdogs on their shit I have no interest.
I just wish they offered the mirror hangers in every model, not all these gimmicky goofy ass graphics.
Truck's are the one component I am entirely OCD about. Trucks, and closely behind that shoes. Krux served me well the years in which I faithfully stuck by them. Maybe since I prefer low trucks, and the downlow's are available in regular non graphic finishes I'll just go back to those. Just a shame as I currently have 6 pairs of Thunder's between 4 decks, and 2 sets that are currently unused.
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Not trying to sound smart or anything, but shouldn't spacers and washers make axle slip irrelevant? ???
Spacers make zero difference in case of axle slippage.
Why though?
If it's
truck hanger against
hard metal washer against
hard metal inner race of the inner bearing against
hard metal spacer against
hard metal inner race of the outer bearing against
hard metal washer against
hard metal nut
on both sides of the truck then where is the axle going to slip and how will it lock either of the wheels as tightening the nuts as tight as they go won't do that?
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I have a set of the new 149 II's and they have axle slip too. I own personal OCD ritual is to check the wheel play before rolling up for a trick and to bang out the axle accordingly. Same with my Indy Ti 149's I rode before the Thunders. You would think they would have it figured out by now.
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Back in the brokeazz days when we ran mix-matched thunder or indy plates/hangers when you had axle slip you put on enough speedwashers + Spacers to keep that shit locked down.
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Anyone experiencing ANY issues with Thunders, please email me directly!
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Not trying to sound smart or anything, but shouldn't spacers and washers make axle slip irrelevant? ???
Spacers make zero difference in case of axle slippage.
Why though?
If it's
truck hanger against
hard metal washer against
hard metal inner race of the inner bearing against
hard metal spacer against
hard metal inner race of the outer bearing against
hard metal washer against
hard metal nut
on both sides of the truck then where is the axle going to slip and how will it lock either of the wheels as tightening the nuts as tight as they go won't do that?
That's a lot of room for error....washers usually don't sit right.....
Those race bearings.....nut...bearing...wheel....bearing.....truck....that's it....
With your set up you have to back off.....you shouldn't need to...
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I have pretty much had problems w axel slip for 20 years.....never had a truck that didn't slip....I equate it to a bad shooting percentage flat ground....
Have the tih's and obviously problem fixed.....it's all one piece no axel...they grind funny and are far from a cool brand but I like em.... Not gonna try and convince anyone though they are the truck for them....I reserve that for Ace.....
My new theory relates to those bones race reds that allow you to ride the nuts super tight....I think that if there is zero play, there should be no room for any slip. I haven't tried it out yet though because I already have the Tih's......
the inclusion of spacers inside the wheels will definitely rid you of the axle slip. 100%
the problem is the sound of the board after you have fixed the wheels very tight. it might sound dull, like a toy
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Not trying to sound smart or anything, but shouldn't spacers and washers make axle slip irrelevant? ???
Spacers make zero difference in case of axle slippage.
incorrect. apart from common sense, i have tried it in the past and it does work. definitely rids the axle play as there is no space for the axle to move. it just makes the board sound as if you put too much thick grease in the bearings which sucks
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I have pretty much had problems w axel slip for 20 years.....never had a truck that didn't slip....I equate it to a bad shooting percentage flat ground....
Have the tih's and obviously problem fixed.....it's all one piece no axel...they grind funny and are far from a cool brand but I like em.... Not gonna try and convince anyone though they are the truck for them....I reserve that for Ace.....
My new theory relates to those bones race reds that allow you to ride the nuts super tight....I think that if there is zero play, there should be no room for any slip. I haven't tried it out yet though because I already have the Tih's......
the inclusion of spacers inside the wheels will definitely rid you of the axle slip. 100%
the problem is the sound of the board after you have fixed the wheels very tight. it might sound dull, like a toy
spacers are built in.....
Spacers alone never did the trick for me.....I think the layers of components never lined up enough so there was play....
You're quite right about the toy store board....also what I never thought of is your wheels don't screach.....the noise is different and your wheels always feel soft.....
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Every set of thunders I've had has slipped. Just set up a new pair mid May, and I had axle slip the first time I skated them. I just deal with it, because I like the trucks.
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Every set of thunders I've had has slipped. Just set up a new pair mid May, and I had axle slip the first time I skated them. I just deal with it, because I like the trucks.
I'd be curious to see what the axles look like in Indy and Thunder
(https://www.silverfishlongboarding.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=129754&d=1375900742)
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wonder if this should be brought up again.
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COMPANIES! JUST DO THIS ->
(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag474/miguelsk8/truck_zpsbbb03c05.png?t=1418163435)
(paint skills :v )
Nice idea. Grind King did something similar with their AXL truck, with an impossible-to-slip axle:
(http://www.grindking.com/catalog/images/technology.gif)
But companies don't bother when it's easier and cheaper to use stock axles than fabricating custom shapes.
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The last three sets of Thunders I've had (2 sets of 151's and 1 set of 147's) did not have straight axles at the time of purchase. I don't really care, because they function well and don't bend too much past their original state, but I wonder why they're not straight.