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Skateboarding => Skate Questions => Topic started by: ChuckRamone on December 13, 2016, 01:39:37 PM
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Ugly? Too easy? Weird looking? Some other reason?
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a lot of people cant do heelflips that well, i mean people can do them on flat but i think most people can't heelflip off or over something, it seems like one of those overlooked tricks from my experience,
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personally i think heel flips are my strongest flip trick. that being said its probably the easiest
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because I can't do them
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Hey man, I heard Neen has a very short temper.
Don't let him see this thread.
He'll flip.
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Racism
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I have way better heelflips than kickflips but here I am trying to kickflip into everything like an asshole what am I doing
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Hey man, I heard Neen has a very short temper.
Don't let him see this thread.
He'll Heel flip.
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because I can't do them
this, basically. it feels like i'm trying to throw left-handed.
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i didn't know people hated them. i usedta have them better than kickflips in the 90s but my buddy was trying kickflips into ledge tricks and also most of the pro flip to slides were kickflip not heel so i think commercialism maybe influences us towards one over the other?
for a long time i considered half cab flips 'too easy' since no pros really did them and certainly never down gaps and i could do em but then when they became popular briefly they were 'legitimized' in my eyes.
same for nollie 360 flips [except i never had them that easy] and prolly a lot of stuff. until it is in a video or mag it seems like a varial flip or willy grind. a lesser tier trick.
because el toro, wallenberg, love and so on were kickflipped by pros we imitate that.
or maybe i'm over thinking and your friends just suck at them or whatever people have already said.
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Hey man, I heard Neen has a very short temper.
Don't let him see this thread.
He'll Heel flip.
Wow, I just got it Grind King. I'm extra slow today.
Nollie and switch heels feel great to me. Even a fakie heel feels ok. Something about straight heels feels horrible to me. That said, id sell my sole for solid front heels.
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Hey man, I heard Neen has a very short temper.
Don't let him see this thread.
He'll Heel flip.
Wow, I just got it Grind King. I'm extra slow today.
Nollie and switch heels feel great to me. Even a fakie heel feels ok. Something about straight heels feels horrible to me. That said, id sell my sole for solid front heels.
It's all good bb, I wasn't going to say anything, why would I :-* ?
If you've got fakie heels and don't have them regular, you're doing something funky, but that's cool.
Switch and Nollie feel good.
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Hey man, I heard Neen has a very short temper.
Don't let him see this thread.
He'll Heel flip.
Wow, I just got it Grind King. I'm extra slow today.
Nollie and switch heels feel great to me. Even a fakie heel feels ok. Something about straight heels feels horrible to me. That said, id sell my sole for solid front heels.
It's all good bb, I wasn't going to say anything, why would I :-* ?
If you've got fakie heels and don't have them regular, you're doing something funky, but that's cool.
Switch and Nollie feel good.
I know im doing something wrong. Learned fakies same time as nollies. Foot at an angle. Works great for switch. But going regs, i end up facing backwards. Been this way 20 yrs. I used to fast forward heelflipping dudes parts years ago.
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I hate heelflips because it makes me feel less black that I cant do them, and I always end up getting popsicled
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personally i think heel flips are my strongest flip trick. that being said its probably the easiest
the flick is on a heelflip is waaay easier than kickflip flicks IMO...this was the 3rd trick i learned after Varials and can land them 95% of the time. I kind of hate this trick because(as said earlier) it looks and feels too akward to heelflip into a grind.
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They don't.
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it's fucking impossible to control it unless you do a bs heel.
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Heelflips are awesome and anyone who hates them is out of touch and probably just no complies all the time in a cute outfit.
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it's fucking impossible to control it unless you do a bs heel.
when I was first learning them in ancient times, someone told me to kick both heels forward. if you learn to do that, they will stay under you almost every time.
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I can do them sometimes, but I mostly end up landing them with both feet dragging off the edge of the board and I have no idea why. I can varial heel no problem though, makes no sense.
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id say theyre inconvenient, its like eveyone likes sticking to the routine of kickflip based tricks cause theyre easier to set up and kick but heelflip tricks are more precise when doing them, like you can setup weird for a frontside flip and still pull it off but you cant for frontside heels. you gotta make sure you can flick your heel.
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it's fucking impossible to control it unless you do a bs heel.
when I was first learning them in ancient times, someone told me to kick both heels forward. if you learn to do that, they will stay under you almost every time.
Good shout. I can usually heelflip okay, but I'm looking forward to trying this.
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I love heelflips.
Fakie heel variations are some of my favorite tricks.
I feel like they don't get as much shine because they look more awkward going into a grind or board/lipslide variation than any sort of kickflip does. I think nose/tail slide variations are the exception where a heelflip in/out looks pretty natural.
Consider a kickflip front board vs a heelflip front board. Kickflip looks way more natural to me, I think.
Smltalk did a article about this a few months back: http://www.smltalk.com/new-blog-1/2016/7/28/lindsey-robertson-and-the-liberal-medias-bias-against-heelflippers (http://www.smltalk.com/new-blog-1/2016/7/28/lindsey-robertson-and-the-liberal-medias-bias-against-heelflippers)
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Its more of a practice issue I think
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I think I first did a kickflip when I was 14 like everyone else....learned heel flips and sadly couldn't do kickflips until I was like 35.....
Heel flips stay under you while a mobbed kickflip will dance in front of you to no end.....
Varial heel? (I still think front shuv heel) is my go to....iand I can do a ton of bad others like crop dusting half cab heels......
Heelflip tricks require no flick....which is right up my alley....
People don't like them because the kickflip counterparts just look better......
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I love watching a good heelflip, but I cant do a nice one to save my life. it just feels wrong
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When skaters went from 7 3/4 to 8+ everyone lost their heelflip.
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When skaters went from 7 3/4 to 8+ everyone lost their heelflip.
8.4"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOGbW67JTJM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOGbW67JTJM#)
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When skaters went from 7 3/4 to 8+ everyone lost their heelflip.
8.4"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOGbW67JTJM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOGbW67JTJM#)
I don't know if he's the best example since he has like four tricks. He has to have heelflips or he doesn't eat.
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I've pondered this a bit more and no.....right now bad regs heels is the new varial flip no?
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I've pondered this a bit more and no.....right now bad regs heels is the new varial flip no?
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/10/woah.gif)
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Its more of a practice issue I think
i think it has more to do with how you stand on your board than anything. you position your weight very differently for each.
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f/s heel is the most under-used fliptrick for lines. those can be popped big too but no one practice them
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Dylan had a sick one.....
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Dylan had a sick one.....
Agreed. I think that Sage Elsesser kid has a really sick heelflip too.
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Preference, more people have an easier time doing kickflips. Kinda like if you have a harder time doing frontside tricks you stick to backside because it's easier. Seeing people doing them seems off putting because, it's different from you.
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Name your top 3 heel flips and I guarantee there's not a white dude in there. That being said I've become quite fond of them over the past few months since my ankle has been to fucked to kickflip without causing a massive amount of pain. I've found they either are absolutely perfect, nice high level pop and a bolts landing or I just don't land them, which is odd because I can land even the most fucked and ugly kick flips when I'm healthy.
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Today I made a firm decision to leave kickflips behind and focus on heelflips in 2017.
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Name your top 3 heel flips and I guarantee there's not a white dude in there. That being said I've become quite fond of them over the past few months since my ankle has been to fucked to kickflip without causing a massive amount of pain. I've found they either are absolutely perfect, nice high level pop and a bolts landing or I just don't land them, which is odd because I can land even the most fucked and ugly kick flips when I'm healthy.
lindsey robertson
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Name your top 3 heel flips and I guarantee there's not a white dude in there. That being said I've become quite fond of them over the past few months since my ankle has been to fucked to kickflip without causing a massive amount of pain. I've found they either are absolutely perfect, nice high level pop and a bolts landing or I just don't land them, which is odd because I can land even the most fucked and ugly kick flips when I'm healthy.
lindsey robertson
Hjalte Halberg and Wieger Von Lastname
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Today I made a firm decision to leave kickflips behind and focus on heelflips in 2017.
in 2014 i made a drunk resolution to not ollie/pop for a year ...getting old is weird
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Today I made a firm decision to leave kickflips behind and focus on heelflips in 2017.
in 2014 i made a drunk resolution to not ollie/pop for a year ...getting old is weird
My kickflips are dog shit. Even when I do a good one I hope nobody saw it. I can kickflip into things just fine and it doesn't look like my mom drank when she was pregnant, but a regular (or god forbid fakie) kickflip is just straight garbage. I've got nice looking consistent heelflips, and I'm still over here trying to fuck with these horrible kickflips and never heel flipping. I say no more.
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Today I made a firm decision to leave kickflips behind and focus on heelflips in 2017.
in 2014 i made a drunk resolution to not ollie/pop for a year ...getting old is weird
My kickflips are dog shit. Even when I do a good one I hope nobody saw it. I can kickflip into things just fine and it doesn't look like my mom drank when she was pregnant, but a regular (or god forbid fakie) kickflip is just straight garbage. I've got nice looking consistent heelflips, and I'm still over here trying to fuck with these horrible kickflips and never heel flipping. I say no more.
I got into skating to learn Kickflips, because of my feet I kept flicking too hard with my toes I would kill the toe part of my shoes in a day, so I gave up on them a long time ago.
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The heelflip came natural to me, learned it the second time I tried them. Kickflips on the other hand took me like half a year to learn. I think heelfips are ugly when you do them with half of your foot hanging off of the board and you karate kick out. What works for me is to just have my big toe off of the board and lightly flick my foot with the back foot kind of in the middle/pocket of the tail. Doing it that was allows for me to pop the board up as high as I want and with just my toe off I can control the flip a lot more, they look like kickflips they way I do it.
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Name your top 3 heel flips and I guarantee there's not a white dude in there. That being said I've become quite fond of them over the past few months since my ankle has been to fucked to kickflip without causing a massive amount of pain. I've found they either are absolutely perfect, nice high level pop and a bolts landing or I just don't land them, which is odd because I can land even the most fucked and ugly kick flips when I'm healthy.
yeah exactly
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I learned heelflips. Proof: https://www.instagram.com/p/BQQfr7_gKdl/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BQQfr7_gKdl/)
I skate 8 and below. This was a 7.6 deck. Anyway...
The trick to landing them, as far as I'm concerned, is where you balance/place your weight while standing on the board. You need to lean back and to the opposite direction to where your toes point. So it's like you're sort of edging that weight distribution a bit to that area. It's almost like leaning against a staircase, or chair on the back-diagonal. It's not a full lean, but just enough to establish that weight is being pushed towards that direction. So it's your back foot's heel position pocket of the board. When you do this and then do the trick, the board flips and you are flush with how it will rotate into the catch. One other thing I learned was that in the moment where you're actually doing the motion you need to have hyper-focus into what's going on. And final step is making sure you actually land with both feet on the board, which takes another little rush of adrenaline as well. I've been trying these for many years so to finally understand it was awesome for me. I posted in another thread how I learned this, figured I'd share my knowledge. I was landing them consistently for a bit, but some days it would be still hard to get one. It wasn't automatic every time.
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I learned heelflips. Proof: https://www.instagram.com/p/BQQfr7_gKdl/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BQQfr7_gKdl/)
I skate 8 and below. This was a 7.6 deck. Anyway...
The trick to landing them, as far as I'm concerned, is where you balance/place your weight while standing on the board. You need to lean back and to the opposite direction to where your toes point. So it's like you're sort of edging that weight distribution a bit to that area. It's almost like leaning against a staircase, or chair on the back-diagonal. It's not a full lean, but just enough to establish that weight is being pushed towards that direction. So it's your back foot's heel position pocket of the board. When you do this and then do the trick, the board flips and you are flush with how it will rotate into the catch. One other thing I learned was that in the moment where you're actually doing the motion you need to have hyper-focus into what's going on. And final step is making sure you actually land with both feet on the board, which takes another little rush of adrenaline as well. I've been trying these for many years so to finally understand it was awesome for me. I posted in another thread how I learned this, figured I'd share my knowledge. I was landing them consistently for a bit, but some days it would be still hard to get one. It wasn't automatic every time.
Isn't this the case with every single fliptrick that exists?
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I learned heelflips. Proof: https://www.instagram.com/p/BQQfr7_gKdl/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BQQfr7_gKdl/)
I skate 8 and below. This was a 7.6 deck. Anyway...
The trick to landing them, as far as I'm concerned, is where you balance/place your weight while standing on the board. You need to lean back and to the opposite direction to where your toes point. So it's like you're sort of edging that weight distribution a bit to that area. It's almost like leaning against a staircase, or chair on the back-diagonal. It's not a full lean, but just enough to establish that weight is being pushed towards that direction. So it's your back foot's heel position pocket of the board. When you do this and then do the trick, the board flips and you are flush with how it will rotate into the catch. One other thing I learned was that in the moment where you're actually doing the motion you need to have hyper-focus into what's going on. And final step is making sure you actually land with both feet on the board, which takes another little rush of adrenaline as well. I've been trying these for many years so to finally understand it was awesome for me. I posted in another thread how I learned this, figured I'd share my knowledge. I was landing them consistently for a bit, but some days it would be still hard to get one. It wasn't automatic every time.
did you take this video in crown heights or park slope? that area looks kinda familiar.
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I learned heelflips. Proof: https://www.instagram.com/p/BQQfr7_gKdl/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BQQfr7_gKdl/)
I skate 8 and below. This was a 7.6 deck. Anyway...
The trick to landing them, as far as I'm concerned, is where you balance/place your weight while standing on the board. You need to lean back and to the opposite direction to where your toes point. So it's like you're sort of edging that weight distribution a bit to that area. It's almost like leaning against a staircase, or chair on the back-diagonal. It's not a full lean, but just enough to establish that weight is being pushed towards that direction. So it's your back foot's heel position pocket of the board. When you do this and then do the trick, the board flips and you are flush with how it will rotate into the catch. One other thing I learned was that in the moment where you're actually doing the motion you need to have hyper-focus into what's going on. And final step is making sure you actually land with both feet on the board, which takes another little rush of adrenaline as well. I've been trying these for many years so to finally understand it was awesome for me. I posted in another thread how I learned this, figured I'd share my knowledge. I was landing them consistently for a bit, but some days it would be still hard to get one. It wasn't automatic every time.
Fuckin WHAT
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First i learned heel flips. After learn kick flips my heel flips got worse.
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I learned heelflips. Proof: https://www.instagram.com/p/BQQfr7_gKdl/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BQQfr7_gKdl/)
I skate 8 and below. This was a 7.6 deck. Anyway...
The trick to landing them, as far as I'm concerned, is where you balance/place your weight while standing on the board. You need to lean back and to the opposite direction to where your toes point. So it's like you're sort of edging that weight distribution a bit to that area. It's almost like leaning against a staircase, or chair on the back-diagonal. It's not a full lean, but just enough to establish that weight is being pushed towards that direction. So it's your back foot's heel position pocket of the board. When you do this and then do the trick, the board flips and you are flush with how it will rotate into the catch. One other thing I learned was that in the moment where you're actually doing the motion you need to have hyper-focus into what's going on. And final step is making sure you actually land with both feet on the board, which takes another little rush of adrenaline as well. I've been trying these for many years so to finally understand it was awesome for me. I posted in another thread how I learned this, figured I'd share my knowledge. I was landing them consistently for a bit, but some days it would be still hard to get one. It wasn't automatic every time.
did you take this video in crown heights or park slope? that area looks kinda familiar.
It's a construction site / dead end near the East River, but not Brooklyn
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I learned heelflips. Proof: https://www.instagram.com/p/BQQfr7_gKdl/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BQQfr7_gKdl/)
I skate 8 and below. This was a 7.6 deck. Anyway...
The trick to landing them, as far as I'm concerned, is where you balance/place your weight while standing on the board. You need to lean back and to the opposite direction to where your toes point. So it's like you're sort of edging that weight distribution a bit to that area. It's almost like leaning against a staircase, or chair on the back-diagonal. It's not a full lean, but just enough to establish that weight is being pushed towards that direction. So it's your back foot's heel position pocket of the board. When you do this and then do the trick, the board flips and you are flush with how it will rotate into the catch. One other thing I learned was that in the moment where you're actually doing the motion you need to have hyper-focus into what's going on. And final step is making sure you actually land with both feet on the board, which takes another little rush of adrenaline as well. I've been trying these for many years so to finally understand it was awesome for me. I posted in another thread how I learned this, figured I'd share my knowledge. I was landing them consistently for a bit, but some days it would be still hard to get one. It wasn't automatic every time.
The whole shifting/placing your weight into a certain area I would think changes as per what trick you're trying. Cause you're off-setting the motion of the flick by balancing/holding your weight in the opposite direction. The other stuff like focusing in on it and landing with both feet, sure...
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They don't. People do actually love heelflips. People hate late flips. They're unappealing.
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I can do them sometimes, but I mostly end up landing them with both feet dragging off the edge of the board and I have no idea why. I can varial heel no problem though, makes no sense.
Varial heels are fucking weird, that was the first flip trick I learned. It's completely different from a straight heel because it's 80% how you scoop it, you kinda just hang your front foot off and it flips itself
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I choose kickflips over heelflips any day but i can dig heelflips, use to have a clean one but lost it, now they are pretty sloppy, weirdly enough can still go clean ass Varial heels without fail.
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I'm kind of re-learning everything due to years of being off of a board, but I got nollie heels down again the other day. I think the only reason they're working for me now is I have a more narrow deck than I was using before. Am skating like a 7.(something? way small) right now because it was free and I gotta admit I've been landing way more shit ever since making the switch. May look into a little less wide of a deck next purchase? Never thought I'd say that shit but these are strange times.
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Because dichotomous thinking.
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for me heelflips never felt natural because when I started skating for some reason when I learned to ollie I would hang my foot off like I was setting up for a kickflip so when it came to learning heels flips it just felt weird to setup up and flick
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Heelflips are hesh dude, I'm still waiting for the day for some asshole to yell "do a heelflip!" From his truck driving by,since I got them on lock, But no, it's still "do a 3 flip" "kickflip!" "Skater faggot"
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i feel that heelflips take a bit of effort to flip. i'd rather do a switch heel
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heelflips are rad, fakie heels pop&catch feel so good (i don't have nollie heels), bs180 heels are always there when u need them, halfcab heel are sastifying due to the effort you have to put into them, and fakie inward heels are mystic !
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Heelflips are hesh dude, I'm still waiting for the day for some asshole to yell "do a heelflip!" From his truck driving by,since I got them on lock, But no, it's still "do a 3 flip" "kickflip!" "Skater faggot"
Those people wouldn't know the difference between a heelflip and kickflip.
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Heelflips are hesh dude, I'm still waiting for the day for some asshole to yell "do a heelflip!" From his truck driving by,since I got them on lock, But no, it's still "do a 3 flip" "kickflip!" "Skater faggot"
True. Yet there are a lot of "I used to skate" heads around me that might know haha
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I'm trying to think of the last good heelflip, Jamie Thomas down that huge 6 block???? Lindsey Robertson did a perfect one @ Wallenberg. That trick is going extinct quickly.
I can't do a good one to save my life, i land them 10/10 but they are pathetic >:(
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I'd be so stoked if someone shouted DO A HEELFLIP. I'd point at them like I was the bambino and I'd do a motherfucking heelflip. Then I'd fart myself into orbit on a direct line to the heart of the sun.
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I'd be so stoked if someone shouted DO A HEELFLIP. I'd point at them like I was the bambino and I'd do a motherfucking heelflip. Then I'd fart myself into orbit on a direct line to the heart of the sun.
Fuck yes, after that heelflip theres no purpose to even be on earth
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I'd be so stoked if someone shouted DO A HEELFLIP. I'd point at them like I was the bambino and I'd do a motherfucking heelflip. Then I'd fart myself into orbit on a direct line to the heart of the sun.
I skated by a youth soccer team the other day and one of them told me to do a no comply.
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I'd be so stoked if someone shouted DO A HEELFLIP. I'd point at them like I was the bambino and I'd do a motherfucking heelflip. Then I'd fart myself into orbit on a direct line to the heart of the sun.
I skated by a youth soccer team the other day and one of them told me to do a no comply.
Did you sit them down and show them clips of Ray Barbee vs. clips of whatever this footloose hopping bullshit they're doing now?