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Title: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: shark tits on May 14, 2018, 02:58:01 AM
if chief and adrian lopez's necks are on the guillotine block, it's only fair that more than 4 ocks gang up and hold mike v's head next to them.
as evidence i site
he's been known to rock a shaved head. even though he can grow hair.
he's never really been on minority heavy teams.
sXe and vegan are the stomping grounds of white power suburb brawlers
he's got lightning bolts on his arms. [hitler famously harnessed lightning to zap jews via the 'ben franklin method'. so lightning = racist].
not skating switch is turning up your nose at 50% of the population.
just pushing while minorities have to do all the tricks for lower wages is the ultimate white privilege.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6mc76RlPxw
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Crazyfox on May 14, 2018, 03:53:25 AM
He was on Powell with jamal Williams, Gershon Mosley, mike santarosa, and Danny wainwright.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: smokecrack on May 14, 2018, 03:55:27 AM
There are multiple threads highlighting racism within skateboarding. Some of you decide to make new threads making light of this (Adrian Lopez/Mystery, Mike V., etc.)

This is pretty much white privilege in a nutshell. Many of us are upset/hurt by skateboarding's obvious signs of racism, yet you idiots think it's a good idea to make a joke out of all this. Why? Because you can't comprehend why this would be such a big deal in the first place.

Shark Tits, you've spoken out a few times on the topic of white people using the n-word. You obviously don't get it.

White people: shut the fuck up about issues of race, listen, and try to gain something from the perspective of someone of color. I'm so sick and tired of you guys trying to whitewash every little thing that inconveniences your lives.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: D.O.T. DIY on May 14, 2018, 04:13:29 AM
I doubt Mike V is racist. Met him at a black flag show, watched him talk with a few black dudes and shake their hands. These this guy is racist threads are getting fucking old quick.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: behavioralguide on May 14, 2018, 04:14:21 AM
I doubt Mike V is racist. Met him at a black flag show, watched him talk with a few black dudes and shake their hands. These this guy is racist threads are getting fucking old quick.

I think this thread was ment as a joke/jab
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: thomas kook on May 14, 2018, 04:20:34 AM
ahhh yes the grand old white 'i don't understand this so i will make jokes about it' effect. i don't like seeing threads pop up about skaters being racist in the 90s but i sure as hell fucking hate this trend of desperately having to make every legit argument into a fucking joke.

besides that, everything smokecrack said
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Mouth on May 14, 2018, 04:20:55 AM
#himtoo
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: thomas kook on May 14, 2018, 04:23:09 AM
it's just the fucking worst when people are having a good discussion trying to debate whether so and so should be held accountable today for the dumb shit they pulled in the past and what not, and then some dumb shit rolls around and goes DUHHH BUT MIKE V HAD A BALD HEAD SO WHAT ABOUT HIM UHUHGUH
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: shark tits on May 14, 2018, 04:29:15 AM
it's just the fucking worst when people are having a good discussion trying to debate whether so and so should be held accountable today for the dumb shit they pulled in the past and what not, and then some dumb shit rolls around and goes DUHHH BUT MIKE V HAD A BALD HEAD SO WHAT ABOUT HIM UHUHGUH
i didn't derail that thread i made my own. if you don't like, there's the door.
to mr crack, you're entitled to your opinion but being black or offended doesn't make you right and anyone else wrong. it's your opinion.
sorry you didn't like my joke.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: smokecrack on May 14, 2018, 04:43:29 AM
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it's just the fucking worst when people are having a good discussion trying to debate whether so and so should be held accountable today for the dumb shit they pulled in the past and what not, and then some dumb shit rolls around and goes DUHHH BUT MIKE V HAD A BALD HEAD SO WHAT ABOUT HIM UHUHGUH
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i didn't derail that thread i made my own. if you don't like, there's the door.
to mr crack, you're entitled to your opinion but being black or offended doesn't make you right and anyone else wrong. it's your opinion.
sorry you didn't like my joke.

Dude, you're not a white man making this joke? You're not the same white man who has argued that white people should be allowed to use the n-word?

I'm tired of this thinly-veiled racist garbage. When pressed, you show your true colors.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: cosmicgypsies on May 14, 2018, 04:48:28 AM
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I SEE YOU RODNEY
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: lampshade on May 14, 2018, 04:59:15 AM
People need to get over this shit.

- Racism is terrible
- Every race has some super cool people and some total assholes.  Most people fall in the middle.
- Every person you meet should be evaluated on their personal merit. 
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: shark tits on May 14, 2018, 05:03:58 AM
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it's just the fucking worst when people are having a good discussion trying to debate whether so and so should be held accountable today for the dumb shit they pulled in the past and what not, and then some dumb shit rolls around and goes DUHHH BUT MIKE V HAD A BALD HEAD SO WHAT ABOUT HIM UHUHGUH
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i didn't derail that thread i made my own. if you don't like, there's the door.
to mr crack, you're entitled to your opinion but being black or offended doesn't make you right and anyone else wrong. it's your opinion.
sorry you didn't like my joke.
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Dude, you're not a white man making this joke? You're not the same white man who has argued that white people should be allowed to use the n-word?

I'm tired of this thinly-veiled racist garbage. When pressed, you show your true colors.
thinly veiled, nothing.
i think you should have enough self esteem to not get offended if white kids who like rap use nigga affectionately.
poor whites aren't privileged. they got drafted to die freeing the slaves. no offense but if they had a choice they'd have stayed their happy asses up north.
we're in the same boat.
more whites are pro black than racist. that's why things get better every yr.
we're all first world crybabies.
sorry if going in on mike v detracted from all the serious equality work ya'll were doing repeating 'jj is a nazi'.
our histories aren't that different but to paraphrase lbj 'if you convince the highest black person that a low white man has privilege over him, he'll hold a grudge forever and never see himself as equal'.
divide and conquer.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Burt Ward on May 14, 2018, 05:28:35 AM
Clearly not racist. Rode for BLACK label.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: fang on May 14, 2018, 05:49:21 AM
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I SEE YOU RODNEY

Oh shiiiii ..... say it ain't so
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: ChuckRamone on May 14, 2018, 07:03:53 AM
I get what you mean about poor whites not having economic privilege and historically the germanic tribes have pushed the celts around but culturally and socially speaking a rich poc will still have certain disadvantages, labels and stigmas attached to their wealth. a rich chinese guy will be seen as dorky and unattractive no matter what. a rich black or hispanic person will be seen as a new money upstart with questionable wealth. a poor white person still has the potential to be seen as cool, tough, creative or salt of the earth and very human in that special blue collar way that americans love. working class poc generally don’t have those associations. I know of an asian girl working retail who quit her job recently because she kept getting harassed by this old white guy customer who would ask her if she would come be his maid. and you know there was an economic and sexual element to that. poor blacks and hispanics are seen as thugs or lazy or just not creative enough. these are generalizations and there are exceptions but I think you catch my drift.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Omars_Dad on May 14, 2018, 07:05:25 AM
The lightning bolts have something to do with Elvis Presley's back up band if I remember correctly
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Schneaumunn on May 14, 2018, 07:05:48 AM
There are multiple threads highlighting racism within skateboarding. Some of you decide to make new threads making light of this (Adrian Lopez/Mystery, Mike V., etc.)

This is pretty much white privilege in a nutshell. Many of us are upset/hurt by skateboarding's obvious signs of racism, yet you idiots think it's a good idea to make a joke out of all this. Why? Because you can't comprehend why this would be such a big deal in the first place.

Shark Tits, you've spoken out a few times on the topic of white people using the n-word. You obviously don't get it.

White people: shut the fuck up about issues of race, listen, and try to gain something from the perspective of someone of color. I'm so sick and tired of you guys trying to whitewash every little thing that inconveniences your lives.
“You guys”
i’ll bring it up at the meeting
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on May 14, 2018, 07:06:38 AM
Idk about racism, but he did steal Ed Templeton's checks when he rode for TV. Since then I've been on team Fuck Mike V.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: BMCsteve on May 14, 2018, 07:10:13 AM
I think Mike's two oldest friends are Rodney Smith and Dune

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFK5m_RkJTU
http://www.instagram.com/p/Bh9omxXB2jr/?taken-by=chrispastras
http://www.instagram.com/p/BhaeUT-BZl2/?taken-by=mikevallely
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: HyenaChaser on May 14, 2018, 09:10:53 AM
The issue here is that making light of racism, even in something as inconsequential as a Slap thread, is still a dangerous thing to do. It undermines the gravity of racism and starts to normalize it: "this isn't so bad, look we can still have a few laughs about it!" Which, if you experience(d) racism, can be extremely frustrating to say the least and it undermines progress. In a broad sense it's the same thing as JJ using Nazi ephemera. Whether or not he's serious about it and/or it was when he was younger, they are still symbols of hate. And to put it a certain way, not everyone's going to get the joke.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: shark tits on May 14, 2018, 09:19:39 AM
The issue here is that making light of racism, even in something as inconsequential as a Slap thread, is still a dangerous thing to do. It undermines the gravity of racism and starts to normalize it: "this isn't so bad, look we can still have a few laughs about it!" Which, if you experience(d) racism, can be extremely frustrating to say the least and it undermines progress. In a broad sense it's the same thing as JJ using Nazi ephemera. Whether or not he's serious about it and/or it was when he was younger, they are still symbols of hate. And to put it a certain way, not everyone's going to get the joke.
i disagree. if you can't joke about something it has power over you.
some people are too shtoops to get jokes but it isn't incumbent on the comedian to dumb it down.
it's also more joking on fragility and those seeing racism everywhere, not poking fun of a kid murdered by police or whatever. pick your battles cause if you think i'm halfway to burning crosses, the world must be a scary place.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Lame_Nigga on May 14, 2018, 09:25:14 AM
That's such a white thing to say.

I've been on slap for 9ish years at this point and the amount of stupidty when it comes to race is so disappointing. For a culture that boasts how skating brings all walks of life together, the loudest voices seem to be edgelord white boys.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Hmmmm Nice Bike on May 14, 2018, 09:26:57 AM
Mike V in the Black Label video has to be one of the most underwhelming parts of all time.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: shark tits on May 14, 2018, 09:29:48 AM
That's such a white thing to say.

I've been on slap for 9ish years at this point and the amount of stupidty when it comes to race is so disappointing. For a culture that boasts how skating brings all walks of life together, the loudest voices seem to be edgelord white boys.
not to stereotype or anything  :)
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Buck Russell on May 14, 2018, 09:32:13 AM
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I SEE YOU RODNEY
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Oh shiiiii ..... say it ain't so

wow now i REALLY wonder what he whispered in antwuan's ear.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: heckler on May 14, 2018, 09:38:35 AM
While this awful thread was started as a way to make light of racism and holding people accountable, Mike Vallely DID, in fact, say some shady racist shit in his old Big Brother interview that, realistically, deserves an explanation and an apology.

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Rick Kosick said you're a racist. Is that true?
You said I'm a racist, Kosick? Why would you say that? Did I say something about jigaboos or something?
Something when we were crossing the San Pedro bridge. You said, "tell that n*gger I want a receipt."
You say some pretty crazy shit too, Kosick. Um, I wouldn't say I'm a racist, but I would say that I'm very aware that I have certain prejudices.
Have you ever used the phrase, "n*gger work," to describe mundane jobs?
I probably have, yeah. I don't want this to turn into, "Mike Vallely is a racist," or "Mike Vallely hates black people," because I don't. Like I said, I'm aware of certain prejudices I've inherited. I'm no different than anyone else.

Source: http://www.snakewilliams.com/images/extras/bigbrother14.pdf
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: left knee cap on May 14, 2018, 09:40:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6mc76RlPxw

what the fuck is going on in that video it's just him pushing down a street
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: eshins on May 14, 2018, 09:46:17 AM
ITT: The triggered become even more triggered
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: cosmicgypsies on May 14, 2018, 10:12:21 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6mc76RlPxw
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what the fuck is going on in that video it's just him pushing down a street

thats what oyola did and everyone loves him
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Bobby Peru on May 14, 2018, 10:18:07 AM
Oh good. SLAP is 4chan now. Great job guys you're the best.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Stoop Kid 2.0 on May 14, 2018, 10:24:51 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=63M34s8afbo
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: shannamal on May 14, 2018, 11:45:04 AM
This is such a stupid fucking thread
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: verylowimpact on May 14, 2018, 11:48:50 AM
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it's just the fucking worst when people are having a good discussion trying to debate whether so and so should be held accountable today for the dumb shit they pulled in the past and what not, and then some dumb shit rolls around and goes DUHHH BUT MIKE V HAD A BALD HEAD SO WHAT ABOUT HIM UHUHGUH
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i didn't derail that thread i made my own. if you don't like, there's the door.
to mr crack, you're entitled to your opinion but being black or offended doesn't make you right and anyone else wrong. it's your opinion.
sorry you didn't like my joke.

The mere fact that this fucking kook has a '400+' rep here alone shows how fucked this whole message board is. Most of you guys are fucking kooks. Confirmed.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: fang on May 14, 2018, 11:51:06 AM
Just as long as Emily V is not, we are good
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Nosferatu on May 14, 2018, 11:58:51 AM
Oh good. SLAP is 4chan now. Great job guys you're the best.

Exactly. The moment you see someone type "ITT:" expect the worst. Redditors and 4chaners don't even realize how stupid their "yeah, but" logic games are.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Glue Reed on May 14, 2018, 12:18:32 PM
While this awful thread was started as a way to make light of racism and holding people accountable, Mike Vallely DID, in fact, say some shady racist shit in his old Big Brother interview that, realistically, deserves an explanation and an apology.

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Rick Kosick said you're a racist. Is that true?
You said I'm a racist, Kosick? Why would you say that? Did I say something about jigaboos or something?
Something when we were crossing the San Pedro bridge. You said, "tell that n*gger I want a receipt."
You say some pretty crazy shit too, Kosick. Um, I wouldn't say I'm a racist, but I would say that I'm very aware that I have certain prejudices.
Have you ever used the phrase, "n*gger work," to describe mundane jobs?
I probably have, yeah. I don't want this to turn into, "Mike Vallely is a racist," or "Mike Vallely hates black people," because I don't. Like I said, I'm aware of certain prejudices I've inherited. I'm no different than anyone else.
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Source: http://www.snakewilliams.com/images/extras/bigbrother14.pdf

To his defense, he did speak out about this right away... he said he was misquoted and all his real quotes were taken out of context.

I have no idea what his original quotes were, but I do remember a lot of skaters coming to his defense.  Kareem Campbell being one of them.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: SodaJerk on May 14, 2018, 12:27:46 PM
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While this awful thread was started as a way to make light of racism and holding people accountable, Mike Vallely DID, in fact, say some shady racist shit in his old Big Brother interview that, realistically, deserves an explanation and an apology.

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Rick Kosick said you're a racist. Is that true?
You said I'm a racist, Kosick? Why would you say that? Did I say something about jigaboos or something?
Something when we were crossing the San Pedro bridge. You said, "tell that n*gger I want a receipt."
You say some pretty crazy shit too, Kosick. Um, I wouldn't say I'm a racist, but I would say that I'm very aware that I have certain prejudices.
Have you ever used the phrase, "n*gger work," to describe mundane jobs?
I probably have, yeah. I don't want this to turn into, "Mike Vallely is a racist," or "Mike Vallely hates black people," because I don't. Like I said, I'm aware of certain prejudices I've inherited. I'm no different than anyone else.
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Source: http://www.snakewilliams.com/images/extras/bigbrother14.pdf
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To his defense, he did speak out about this right away... he said he was misquoted and all his real quotes were taken out of context.

I have no idea what his original quotes were, but I do remember a lot of skaters coming to his defense.  Kareem Campbell being one of them.
It should also be noted that anything from Big Brother should be taken with a grain of salt. They were always courting controversy without much regard for consequence. They weren't thinking anyone would be around this long and still have careers in skateboarding.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Kevin Romar on May 14, 2018, 12:30:05 PM
Anyone that believes anything written online is a dumb nigger faggot kike and deserves to die today.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: jawano on May 14, 2018, 12:34:52 PM
Racism is a complicated subject. Humor has traditionally been an acceptable form of asking questions or poking at established norms or commonly accepted arguments.

When people start saying that a subject is one that people "shouldn't joke" about, as has been suggested of the topic of racism in this thread, I wonder what motivations they have in controlling the speech and thought of others.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Made In China on May 14, 2018, 12:36:23 PM
There are multiple threads highlighting racism within skateboarding. Some of you decide to make new threads making light of this (Adrian Lopez/Mystery, Mike V., etc.)

This is pretty much white privilege in a nutshell. Many of us are upset/hurt by skateboarding's obvious signs of racism, yet you idiots think it's a good idea to make a joke out of all this. Why? Because you can't comprehend why this would be such a big deal in the first place.

Shark Tits, you've spoken out a few times on the topic of white people using the n-word. You obviously don't get it.

White people: shut the fuck up about issues of race, listen, and try to gain something from the perspective of someone of color. I'm so sick and tired of you guys trying to whitewash every little thing that inconveniences your lives.
This, 100%. Fuck anyone making a joke of this.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Matthew_James on May 14, 2018, 12:46:39 PM
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There are multiple threads highlighting racism within skateboarding. Some of you decide to make new threads making light of this (Adrian Lopez/Mystery, Mike V., etc.)

This is pretty much white privilege in a nutshell. Many of us are upset/hurt by skateboarding's obvious signs of racism, yet you idiots think it's a good idea to make a joke out of all this. Why? Because you can't comprehend why this would be such a big deal in the first place.

Shark Tits, you've spoken out a few times on the topic of white people using the n-word. You obviously don't get it.

White people: shut the fuck up about issues of race, listen, and try to gain something from the perspective of someone of color. I'm so sick and tired of you guys trying to whitewash every little thing that inconveniences your lives.
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This, 100%. Fuck anyone making a joke of this.
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i back this

You're all being bitches about this.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Trump2020 on May 14, 2018, 02:15:05 PM
There are multiple threads highlighting racism within skateboarding. Some of you decide to make new threads making light of this (Adrian Lopez/Mystery, Mike V., etc.)

This is pretty much white privilege in a nutshell. Many of us are upset/hurt by skateboarding's obvious signs of racism, yet you idiots think it's a good idea to make a joke out of all this. Why? Because you can't comprehend why this would be such a big deal in the first place.

Shark Tits, you've spoken out a few times on the topic of white people using the n-word. You obviously don't get it.

White people: shut the fuck up about issues of race, listen, and try to gain something from the perspective of someone of color. I'm so sick and tired of you guys trying to whitewash every little thing that inconveniences your lives.

What signs of racism are you seeing in skateboarding exactly? Someone who was evidently one decades ago, and now clearly isn't? There are no "Nazi" skateboarders rolling in packs. As a singular one you'd be "kook'd" out in a heartbeat. Skateboarding is about individuality yet is very left-leaning and as a whole is extremely against racism and all about diversity. You are ousted if you are a racist skateboarder. So if there are any, they aren't showing it, so your very fragile feelings are pretty safe if you ask me.

Also, you're an evident groupthink cultist. Dave Chappelle made a show entirely based around racist jokes. Some of his co-writers were white. People of all races make racist jokes, and it will never not be allowed, because that's free speech for you. Many of them are funny, you should try escaping the clutches of groupthink and laugh a little. You'd probably begin to enjoy life and stop viewing yourself and those around you as victims constantly.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: BMCsteve on May 14, 2018, 02:24:55 PM
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There are multiple threads highlighting racism within skateboarding. Some of you decide to make new threads making light of this (Adrian Lopez/Mystery, Mike V., etc.)

This is pretty much white privilege in a nutshell. Many of us are upset/hurt by skateboarding's obvious signs of racism, yet you idiots think it's a good idea to make a joke out of all this. Why? Because you can't comprehend why this would be such a big deal in the first place.

Shark Tits, you've spoken out a few times on the topic of white people using the n-word. You obviously don't get it.

White people: shut the fuck up about issues of race, listen, and try to gain something from the perspective of someone of color. I'm so sick and tired of you guys trying to whitewash every little thing that inconveniences your lives.
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What signs of racism are you seeing in skateboarding exactly? Someone who was evidently one decades ago, and now clearly isn't? There are no "Nazi" skateboarders rolling in packs. As a singular one you'd be "kook'd" out in a heartbeat. Skateboarding is about individuality yet is very left-leaning and as a whole is extremely against racism and all about diversity. You are ousted if you are a racist skateboarder. So if there are any, they aren't showing it, so your very fragile feelings are pretty safe if you ask me.

Also, you're an evident groupthink cultist. Dave Chappelle made a show entirely based around racist jokes. Some of his co-writers were white. People of all races make racist jokes, and it will never not be allowed, because that's free speech for you. Many of them are funny, you should try escaping the clutches of groupthink and laugh a little. You'd probably begin to enjoy life and stop viewing yourself and those around you as victims constantly.

There is a difference between making racist jokes in the context of a comedy television show and making specific false statements about an actual person's character. 

One is humor and one is libel which is not protected under the first amendment.

Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: tortfeasor on May 14, 2018, 02:30:26 PM
Oh good. SLAP is 4chan now. Great job guys you're the best.


for the record /out/ and /trv/ are great boards and I would love if slap had a "sage" feature.  my post right now is the perfect example. 
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: SHIREFLIP on May 14, 2018, 02:57:14 PM
"White people are fuckin' up!" - Jason Dill
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: HyenaChaser on May 14, 2018, 05:30:25 PM
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The issue here is that making light of racism, even in something as inconsequential as a Slap thread, is still a dangerous thing to do. It undermines the gravity of racism and starts to normalize it: "this isn't so bad, look we can still have a few laughs about it!" Which, if you experience(d) racism, can be extremely frustrating to say the least and it undermines progress. In a broad sense it's the same thing as JJ using Nazi ephemera. Whether or not he's serious about it and/or it was when he was younger, they are still symbols of hate. And to put it a certain way, not everyone's going to get the joke.
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i disagree. if you can't joke about something it has power over you.
some people are too shtoops to get jokes but it isn't incumbent on the comedian to dumb it down.
it's also more joking on fragility and those seeing racism everywhere, not poking fun of a kid murdered by police or whatever. pick your battles cause if you think i'm halfway to burning crosses, the world must be a scary place.

I'm not even saying you are racist, or prejudiced, or whatever. I'm just saying that one should not be surprised in 2018 if a statement like the one you're making gets this kind of backlash. Already your tone seems to have gotten defensive and I was speaking in general terms originally. Yes humor can take away the power from racism, agreed. But context and timing are everything and considering the increasingly heated statements being posted in the JJ thread, the proximity of this thread to that one puts it in an awkward position where, like I said, not everyone is going to "get" the joke. By that I mean this isn't going to be funny to a segment of people on here, particularly anyone who has/does confront racial stereotypes with any sort of regularity.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: streetsoup on May 14, 2018, 05:55:52 PM
Leave Mike V out of this.
He's likely to go apeshit on you for inciting this false rumor via 4 jocks at once for calling him a "skater fag"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSjnLsiq8J0
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on May 14, 2018, 06:08:41 PM
here we go...
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Zurg on May 14, 2018, 10:54:28 PM
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There are multiple threads highlighting racism within skateboarding. Some of you decide to make new threads making light of this (Adrian Lopez/Mystery, Mike V., etc.)

This is pretty much white privilege in a nutshell. Many of us are upset/hurt by skateboarding's obvious signs of racism, yet you idiots think it's a good idea to make a joke out of all this. Why? Because you can't comprehend why this would be such a big deal in the first place.

Shark Tits, you've spoken out a few times on the topic of white people using the n-word. You obviously don't get it.

White people: shut the fuck up about issues of race, listen, and try to gain something from the perspective of someone of color. I'm so sick and tired of you guys trying to whitewash every little thing that inconveniences your lives.
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What signs of racism are you seeing in skateboarding exactly? Someone who was evidently one decades ago, and now clearly isn't? There are no "Nazi" skateboarders rolling in packs. As a singular one you'd be "kook'd" out in a heartbeat. Skateboarding is about individuality yet is very left-leaning and as a whole is extremely against racism and all about diversity. You are ousted if you are a racist skateboarder. So if there are any, they aren't showing it, so your very fragile feelings are pretty safe if you ask me.

Also, you're an evident groupthink cultist. Dave Chappelle made a show entirely based around racist jokes. Some of his co-writers were white. People of all races make racist jokes, and it will never not be allowed, because that's free speech for you. Many of them are funny, you should try escaping the clutches of groupthink and laugh a little. You'd probably begin to enjoy life and stop viewing yourself and those around you as victims constantly.

if youre getting on him about the phrase "you guys" im sure he meant it as in "you guys that are sticking up for jason jesse's shitty behaviour".

also, you say he'd be kooked out of the industry if he were really racist. why wasnt he 10 or 20 years ago? if youre right and hes not racist, its almost worse to wear and say that shit to be edgy. your spreading hate that you dont even believe in to uphold an image? never heard of anything lamer than that

if you think this thread wasnt a fuck you to anyone who was offended by jason's speech/fashion/actions, then youre tripping. i really dont know why someone(shark tits) would want to back a person using swastikas/hate speech. i guess were all too pussy to understand it and its wrong for us to be offended by someone promoting racism. if youre doing it as a knee jerk reaction to be different from the "groupthink" it shows how juvenile and out of touch you are. youre actively defending and therefore contributing to racism, but hey at least youre not like everyone else!

also re: the chappelle comment, youre right man. i should just loosen up and have a laugh over about jesse's swastika patches and his anger at his mom "fucking a nigger", its about the same as chappelle's show right?

not trying to play victim. trying to show you how ignorant youre being, since you dont seem to get it.
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Surf-goth on May 14, 2018, 11:12:58 PM
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it's just the fucking worst when people are having a good discussion trying to debate whether so and so should be held accountable today for the dumb shit they pulled in the past and what not, and then some dumb shit rolls around and goes DUHHH BUT MIKE V HAD A BALD HEAD SO WHAT ABOUT HIM UHUHGUH
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i didn't derail that thread i made my own. if you don't like, there's the door.
to mr crack, you're entitled to your opinion but being black or offended doesn't make you right and anyone else wrong. it's your opinion.
sorry you didn't like my joke.
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The mere fact that this fucking kook has a '400+' rep here alone shows how fucked this whole message board is. Most of you guys are fucking kooks. Confirmed.


My thoughts exactly ^^
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: shark tits on May 15, 2018, 01:10:52 AM
kid i knew's dad on bainbridge isle told me a story 20 yrs ago. it was during some civil rights riots at ucla, his friend was running, holding the flag. ol' boy's dad grabbed the flag in a sort of relay race as the black students closed in on the tired friend.
he ran w/ that flag but one of the kids, forget his name* but i recognized it as a famous retired basketball player at the time, caught up and socked him.
he goes 'it was then i realized the difference between a symbol and the corporeal.'
so yeah, i don't give a shit about flags, bad symbols or anything else.
be nice to people, ride the fire, burn the flag.
fwiw i get uncomfortable w/ people w/ swaztika tats but i don't want them to die or get it lazered of. the world isn't about what i'm comfortable w/.
*elgin baylor maybe?
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Kevin Romar on May 18, 2018, 12:27:18 AM
I heard that if you push a nazi off a cliff they can fly
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Skate_lurker_Rob on May 18, 2018, 12:08:59 PM
People need to get over this shit.

- Racism is terrible
- Every race has some super cool people and some total assholes.  Most people fall in the middle.
- Every person you meet should be evaluated on their personal merit.
ABSOLUTELY best reply yet and should be the end yet somehow trolls will continue
Title: Re: evidence for mike v's racism
Post by: Alex Olson on May 18, 2018, 03:23:55 PM
Mike V is guilty of many things