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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Get the strap on June 20, 2018, 09:09:50 PM
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Damn this is really sad. Video actually shows the shooting. 17 year old Antwon Rose, unarmed, killed by police, shot in the back running from a parked vehicle. The officer who shot him had been sworn into East Pittsburgh police only a few hours before the shooting. RIP
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkQ32PDgd2P/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1b1i69o89vhz4
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/06/20/east-pittsburgh-officer-accused-of-killing-antwon-rose-sworn-in-hours-before-shooting/amp/
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Saw this on my feed this morning and honestly I have no words ... so fucking tragic
R.I.P
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Fucking cowards. RIP Antwon.
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RIP. That was fucked.
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That's ridiculous. RIP.
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Damn... R.I.P.
A.C.A.B.
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Jesus, this breaks my heart. RIP
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Ya that was super dirty, extra bummer to find out he skated.
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Just fucked in so many ways. My heart goes out to his family and friends. RIP.
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my heart is broken. what has this country come to?
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Atrocious and unjustifiable.
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fucking disgusting
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hopefully it's gonna start getting better w/ all the videos and shit but dreary for now. most people have to be affected by seeing these cop killings, right? once the cops start being held accountable this shit will die fast, i keep hoping we're on the cusp of it.
RIP
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:(
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rip .. that’s disgusting .. these dirty police officers need to go to jail and stop being protected .. the good cops out there should be the ones that stand up for the victims and stop allowing these pieces of shit to wear the badge
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abolish the police
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This is awful. Hope the cop who did this is brought to justice. RIP
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So if I'm getting the story straight:
- Shots fired call made to the police
- 22 year-old man found on street with bullet wounds to the abdomen.
- 22 year-old alleges that man in car was the aggressor, fired nine .40 caliber rounds from car initially.
- 22 year-old returns fire (both are armed), hits car with multiple rounds.
- Police see car that matches description moments later, with bullet holes in rear window
- Police stop car. Antwon Rose is a passenger in said car, along with a second passenger. Antwon Rose and 2nd passenger both attempt to flee. Driver stays in car.
- Antwon Rose runs away, police shoot him multiple (I'm hearing 3) times. Antwon Rose dies. 2nd passenger gets away
- Police search car. Police find 2 firearms in car. No weapons are found on Antwon Rose's person
- Driver of the car is 20 years-old. Is questioned, no wounds. Driver of car is released. 2nd passenger still at large.
Someone please fill me in on anything I'm missing. I'd assume the next thing they do is run ballistics and see if the two guns found match the .40 caliber rounds that hit 22 year-old. I saw someone post that you would be ill-advised to run from the police, especially if you're riding in a vehicle with bullet holes and weapons present, fair point. Regardless, the officer in question sounds like he reacted out of fear and impulse rather than accessing a situation, which is something that he should have been drilled through in his training. If they do find he shot Antwon unjustly, he should most definitely be charged with murder. Fucking awful thing to happen. Law enforcement should be held to higher standards, or at the very least show some fucking competence
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So if I'm getting the story straight:
- Shots fired call made to the police
- 22 year-old man found on street with bullet wounds to the abdomen.
- 22 year-old alleges that man in car was the aggressor, fired nine .40 caliber rounds from car initially.
- 22 year-old returns fire (both are armed), hits car with multiple rounds.
- Police see car that matches description moments later, with bullet holes in rear window
- Police stop car. Antwon Rose is a passenger in said car, along with a second passenger. Antwon Rose and 2nd passenger both attempt to flee. Driver stays in car.
- Antwon Rose runs away, police shoot him multiple (I'm hearing 3) times. Antwon Rose dies. 2nd passenger gets away
- Police search car. Police find 2 firearms in car. No weapons are found on Antwon Rose's person
- Driver of the car is 20 years-old. Is questioned, no wounds. Driver of car is released. 2nd passenger still at large.
Someone please fill me in on anything I'm missing. I'd assume the next thing they do is run ballistics and see if the two guns found match the .40 caliber rounds that hit 22 year-old. I saw someone post that you would be ill-advised to run from the police, especially if you're riding in a vehicle with bullet holes and weapons present, fair point. Regardless, the officer in question sounds like he reacted out of fear and impulse rather than accessing a situation, which is something that he should have been drilled through in his training. If they do find he shot Antwon unjustly, he should most definitely be charged with murder. Fucking awful thing to happen. Law enforcement should be held to higher standards, or at the very least show some fucking competence
None of that matters you twat. You trying to victim blame here all low key? Fuck you. A child was murdered by an agent of the state. Shot in the back.
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Either way the police can't be doin that.
But its deeper as you all know.
All ima say for now is if were gonna solve these deeper issues the level headed public are gonna have to have honest discussions that are racist, but people just cant speak honestly about that stuff. I can't see it getting solved until that happens. Cause people start flipping out.
Sad hippo my man, you were saying good riddance to x cause he assaulted woman, hopefully your not picking and choosing but actually changed your thought process. Police should be held to higher standards, but they're still people, they ain't emotionless robots.
People need to gather themselves and step back. Everyone catches feelings so easily in these scenarios. I don't wanna argue with no one.
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So if I'm getting the story straight:
- Shots fired call made to the police
- 22 year-old man found on street with bullet wounds to the abdomen.
- 22 year-old alleges that man in car was the aggressor, fired nine .40 caliber rounds from car initially.
- 22 year-old returns fire (both are armed), hits car with multiple rounds.
- Police see car that matches description moments later, with bullet holes in rear window
- Police stop car. Antwon Rose is a passenger in said car, along with a second passenger. Antwon Rose and 2nd passenger both attempt to flee. Driver stays in car.
- Antwon Rose runs away, police shoot him multiple (I'm hearing 3) times. Antwon Rose dies. 2nd passenger gets away
- Police search car. Police find 2 firearms in car. No weapons are found on Antwon Rose's person
- Driver of the car is 20 years-old. Is questioned, no wounds. Driver of car is released. 2nd passenger still at large.
Someone please fill me in on anything I'm missing. I'd assume the next thing they do is run ballistics and see if the two guns found match the .40 caliber rounds that hit 22 year-old. I saw someone post that you would be ill-advised to run from the police, especially if you're riding in a vehicle with bullet holes and weapons present, fair point. Regardless, the officer in question sounds like he reacted out of fear and impulse rather than accessing a situation, which is something that he should have been drilled through in his training. If they do find he shot Antwon unjustly, he should most definitely be charged with murder. Fucking awful thing to happen. Law enforcement should be held to higher standards, or at the very least show some fucking competence
None of that matters you twat. You trying to victim blame here all low key? Fuck you. A child was murdered by an agent of the state. Shot in the back.
Yeah a cop's first reaction to someone running away shouldn't be to shoot them in the back. Multiple times. There's nothing justifiable about this.
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So if I'm getting the story straight:
- Shots fired call made to the police
- 22 year-old man found on street with bullet wounds to the abdomen.
- 22 year-old alleges that man in car was the aggressor, fired nine .40 caliber rounds from car initially.
- 22 year-old returns fire (both are armed), hits car with multiple rounds.
- Police see car that matches description moments later, with bullet holes in rear window
- Police stop car. Antwon Rose is a passenger in said car, along with a second passenger. Antwon Rose and 2nd passenger both attempt to flee. Driver stays in car.
- Antwon Rose runs away, police shoot him multiple (I'm hearing 3) times. Antwon Rose dies. 2nd passenger gets away
- Police search car. Police find 2 firearms in car. No weapons are found on Antwon Rose's person
- Driver of the car is 20 years-old. Is questioned, no wounds. Driver of car is released. 2nd passenger still at large.
Someone please fill me in on anything I'm missing. I'd assume the next thing they do is run ballistics and see if the two guns found match the .40 caliber rounds that hit 22 year-old. I saw someone post that you would be ill-advised to run from the police, especially if you're riding in a vehicle with bullet holes and weapons present, fair point. Regardless, the officer in question sounds like he reacted out of fear and impulse rather than accessing a situation, which is something that he should have been drilled through in his training. If they do find he shot Antwon unjustly, he should most definitely be charged with murder. Fucking awful thing to happen. Law enforcement should be held to higher standards, or at the very least show some fucking competence
None of that matters you twat. You trying to victim blame here all low key? Fuck you. A child was murdered by an agent of the state. Shot in the back.
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So if I'm getting the story straight:
- Shots fired call made to the police
- 22 year-old man found on street with bullet wounds to the abdomen.
- 22 year-old alleges that man in car was the aggressor, fired nine .40 caliber rounds from car initially.
- 22 year-old returns fire (both are armed), hits car with multiple rounds.
- Police see car that matches description moments later, with bullet holes in rear window
- Police stop car. Antwon Rose is a passenger in said car, along with a second passenger. Antwon Rose and 2nd passenger both attempt to flee. Driver stays in car.
- Antwon Rose runs away, police shoot him multiple (I'm hearing 3) times. Antwon Rose dies. 2nd passenger gets away
- Police search car. Police find 2 firearms in car. No weapons are found on Antwon Rose's person
- Driver of the car is 20 years-old. Is questioned, no wounds. Driver of car is released. 2nd passenger still at large.
Someone please fill me in on anything I'm missing. I'd assume the next thing they do is run ballistics and see if the two guns found match the .40 caliber rounds that hit 22 year-old. I saw someone post that you would be ill-advised to run from the police, especially if you're riding in a vehicle with bullet holes and weapons present, fair point. Regardless, the officer in question sounds like he reacted out of fear and impulse rather than accessing a situation, which is something that he should have been drilled through in his training. If they do find he shot Antwon unjustly, he should most definitely be charged with murder. Fucking awful thing to happen. Law enforcement should be held to higher standards, or at the very least show some fucking competence
None of that matters you twat. You trying to victim blame here all low key? Fuck you. A child was murdered by an agent of the state. Shot in the back.
No, you fucking moron. I'm trying to figure out the timeline for the events. You know what you're doing, you're reading something that you don't take the time to actually think through, and what you're reading is making you emotional. You're making a snap judgement, an alarming amount of them actually, without actually taking inventory of all the facts presented to you (sound familiar at all?). You pick one sentence out of that entire post and that's the point you scrutinize? You're acting outraged because you think you're entitled. Fuck me? None of that matters? Finding context in a scenario doesn't matter? No one said a teenager deserved to get shot in the back. If you actually took a second to read what I wrote, you'd notice I criticized the cop for reacting the way he did in the first place. I think he's a murderer. Will they feel the same way in a court of law? There are a lot of intangibles to that question and if you look at past trends you'll find that these cases usually don't result in the way they should. You know how you right that? You gather facts and make an actual argument. You don't break out the pitch forks and scream all pigs must die.
Yeah a cop's first reaction to someone running away shouldn't be to shoot them in the back. Multiple times. There's nothing justifiable about this.
Yes, we have established this. In fact, I established this. Read the latter half of my post, I said literally the same thing.
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damn our future looks dark! the video a perfect reflection of this day and age where everything s turned upside down
aside from him being a skater it s baffling to see how we ve come to these times again that our grandparents told us of- where a life was worth nothing for our rulers. and we let them move on cause as in the past it happens for the general public to see.
when authority has no value of life and can kill without serious consequences it is and has always been a bad sign
rip
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damn our future looks dark! the video a perfect reflection of this day and age where everything s turned upside down
aside from him being a skater it s baffling to see how we ve come to these times again that our grandparents told us of- where a life was worth nothing for our rulers. and we let them move on cause as in the past it happens for the general public to see.
when authority has no value of life and can kill without serious consequences it is and has always been a bad sign
rip
Fucking truth
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bullshit in every way. why shoot someone in the back? cowards
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Shit breaks my heart, RIP
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that video is fucked. rip
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RIP,antwon!!! :(
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RIP
scared cops shouldn't be cops.
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So if I'm getting the story straight:
- Shots fired call made to the police
- 22 year-old man found on street with bullet wounds to the abdomen.
- 22 year-old alleges that man in car was the aggressor, fired nine .40 caliber rounds from car initially.
- 22 year-old returns fire (both are armed), hits car with multiple rounds.
- Police see car that matches description moments later, with bullet holes in rear window
- Police stop car. Antwon Rose is a passenger in said car, along with a second passenger. Antwon Rose and 2nd passenger both attempt to flee. Driver stays in car.
- Antwon Rose runs away, police shoot him multiple (I'm hearing 3) times. Antwon Rose dies. 2nd passenger gets away
- Police search car. Police find 2 firearms in car. No weapons are found on Antwon Rose's person
- Driver of the car is 20 years-old. Is questioned, no wounds. Driver of car is released. 2nd passenger still at large.
Someone please fill me in on anything I'm missing. I'd assume the next thing they do is run ballistics and see if the two guns found match the .40 caliber rounds that hit 22 year-old. I saw someone post that you would be ill-advised to run from the police, especially if you're riding in a vehicle with bullet holes and weapons present, fair point. Regardless, the officer in question sounds like he reacted out of fear and impulse rather than accessing a situation, which is something that he should have been drilled through in his training. If they do find he shot Antwon unjustly, he should most definitely be charged with murder. Fucking awful thing to happen. Law enforcement should be held to higher standards, or at the very least show some fucking competence
all that goes out the window because you are only supposed to draw your gun if you intend to fire it, and you only fire it when your life is in danger... that cops life clearly wasnt in danger if the kids were running away from him as fast as they could.
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Oof. 17? Fuck, man. Little dude looks like my cousin. I hope things get better in America.
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what the fucking fuck :'(
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bullshit in every way. why shoot someone in the back? cowards
Still can't believe killing a suspect is the correct procedure in the States...
RIP Antwon
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Welcome to the police state people...
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rip .. that’s disgusting .. these dirty police officers need to go to jail and stop being protected .. the good cops out there should be the ones that stand up for the victims and stop allowing these pieces of shit to wear the badge
I always thought a large part of being a cop was never testifying against other cops no matter how many people get shot.
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So if I'm getting the story straight:
- Shots fired call made to the police
- 22 year-old man found on street with bullet wounds to the abdomen.
- 22 year-old alleges that man in car was the aggressor, fired nine .40 caliber rounds from car initially.
- 22 year-old returns fire (both are armed), hits car with multiple rounds.
- Police see car that matches description moments later, with bullet holes in rear window
- Police stop car. Antwon Rose is a passenger in said car, along with a second passenger. Antwon Rose and 2nd passenger both attempt to flee. Driver stays in car.
- Antwon Rose runs away, police shoot him multiple (I'm hearing 3) times. Antwon Rose dies. 2nd passenger gets away
- Police search car. Police find 2 firearms in car. No weapons are found on Antwon Rose's person
- Driver of the car is 20 years-old. Is questioned, no wounds. Driver of car is released. 2nd passenger still at large.
Someone please fill me in on anything I'm missing. I'd assume the next thing they do is run ballistics and see if the two guns found match the .40 caliber rounds that hit 22 year-old. I saw someone post that you would be ill-advised to run from the police, especially if you're riding in a vehicle with bullet holes and weapons present, fair point. Regardless, the officer in question sounds like he reacted out of fear and impulse rather than accessing a situation, which is something that he should have been drilled through in his training. If they do find he shot Antwon unjustly, he should most definitely be charged with murder. Fucking awful thing to happen. Law enforcement should be held to higher standards, or at the very least show some fucking competence
None of that matters you twat. You trying to victim blame here all low key? Fuck you. A child was murdered by an agent of the state. Shot in the back.
If he was innocent why did he start running from the cops?
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So if I'm getting the story straight:
- Shots fired call made to the police
- 22 year-old man found on street with bullet wounds to the abdomen.
- 22 year-old alleges that man in car was the aggressor, fired nine .40 caliber rounds from car initially.
- 22 year-old returns fire (both are armed), hits car with multiple rounds.
- Police see car that matches description moments later, with bullet holes in rear window
- Police stop car. Antwon Rose is a passenger in said car, along with a second passenger. Antwon Rose and 2nd passenger both attempt to flee. Driver stays in car.
- Antwon Rose runs away, police shoot him multiple (I'm hearing 3) times. Antwon Rose dies. 2nd passenger gets away
- Police search car. Police find 2 firearms in car. No weapons are found on Antwon Rose's person
- Driver of the car is 20 years-old. Is questioned, no wounds. Driver of car is released. 2nd passenger still at large.
Someone please fill me in on anything I'm missing. I'd assume the next thing they do is run ballistics and see if the two guns found match the .40 caliber rounds that hit 22 year-old. I saw someone post that you would be ill-advised to run from the police, especially if you're riding in a vehicle with bullet holes and weapons present, fair point. Regardless, the officer in question sounds like he reacted out of fear and impulse rather than accessing a situation, which is something that he should have been drilled through in his training. If they do find he shot Antwon unjustly, he should most definitely be charged with murder. Fucking awful thing to happen. Law enforcement should be held to higher standards, or at the very least show some fucking competence
None of that matters you twat. You trying to victim blame here all low key? Fuck you. A child was murdered by an agent of the state. Shot in the back.
Probably because he felt they were going to shoot him? Why does it matter anyway - fleeing from police isn’t something that deserves deadly force in the first place.
Jesus fuck
SLAP is officially on my Dad’s facebook feed.
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Because he wasn’t thinking he would be shot and killed. He was just reacting to the situation. He was scared and his instinct, like most skaters I have known, is to run from police to avoid being ticked or arrested. I used to run all the time from cops. Now I am too old for that crap, but if I were younger I would seriously consider just taking the ticket or arrest.
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hope that cop gets the worst kind of cancer.
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Running from the cops was almost like a game when I was a kid. Never worried about being shot fo sho. Jumping fence after fence while that cop drives up and down the street and you're already 3 streets away via yard jumping, good times.
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people are tribal and cops are no different. the amount of power and entitlement is different but it's kind of like you don't snitch on your buddy, right?
or you'd lie for him if he cheat on his old lady and we make allowances for our own or friend's behavior that we wouldn't tolerate from a stranger. it makes me mad that they won't tell on each other but if i won't rat on my friends, it's somewhat hypocritical.
cops are just a magnified version of that when they keep the thin blue line.
the cameras are a good start and outside prosecutors who don't need police support to make their cases and hold them to the same standards as civilians.
when civilian juries find them not guilty w/ video evidence it's like 'god help us all'.
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hope that cop gets the worst kind of cancer.
Wishing cancer upon someone isn't cool fam👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
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soldiers on the battle field have more strict laws of engagement than police in America. Its a policy issue on top of being a race issue. We the people need to stand up in protest about how we let police behave. We need to get the police procedure changed at the state level. These cops do not serve the people they serve the state. The orders come in from the state. Cops are here to protect the state, not the people. I can't say that enough. Police exist to protect the state(government). When we the people take to the streets to fight for our rights, these police officers will not walk beside us, but instead take arms against us. Fuck the police.
RIP Antwan Rose
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All cops are bastards
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http://youtu.be/i1TAzlmaM-Y
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This fucking slimeball will go on living his life even though theres video of him murdering someone. The US is just scary these days. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Fuck the police.
RIP
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rip .. that’s disgusting .. these dirty police officers need to go to jail and stop being protected .. the good cops out there should be the ones that stand up for the victims and stop allowing these pieces of shit to wear the badge
I always thought a large part of being a cop was never testifying against other cops no matter how many people get shot.
they don't call it "testi-lying" for nothing
RIP Antwon Rose
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fuck white cops
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I am so fucking sad and fed up with this country.
In the past few years, I've been getting pretty anxious every time I see B-roll involving skaters vs. cops, fearing for the worst. Stay safe out there, especially if you're a POC.
RIP Antwon
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So if I'm getting the story straight:
- Shots fired call made to the police
- 22 year-old man found on street with bullet wounds to the abdomen.
- 22 year-old alleges that man in car was the aggressor, fired nine .40 caliber rounds from car initially.
- 22 year-old returns fire (both are armed), hits car with multiple rounds.
- Police see car that matches description moments later, with bullet holes in rear window
- Police stop car. Antwon Rose is a passenger in said car, along with a second passenger. Antwon Rose and 2nd passenger both attempt to flee. Driver stays in car.
- Antwon Rose runs away, police shoot him multiple (I'm hearing 3) times. Antwon Rose dies. 2nd passenger gets away
- Police search car. Police find 2 firearms in car. No weapons are found on Antwon Rose's person
- Driver of the car is 20 years-old. Is questioned, no wounds. Driver of car is released. 2nd passenger still at large.
Someone please fill me in on anything I'm missing. I'd assume the next thing they do is run ballistics and see if the two guns found match the .40 caliber rounds that hit 22 year-old. I saw someone post that you would be ill-advised to run from the police, especially if you're riding in a vehicle with bullet holes and weapons present, fair point. Regardless, the officer in question sounds like he reacted out of fear and impulse rather than accessing a situation, which is something that he should have been drilled through in his training. If they do find he shot Antwon unjustly, he should most definitely be charged with murder. Fucking awful thing to happen. Law enforcement should be held to higher standards, or at the very least show some fucking competence
None of that matters you twat. You trying to victim blame here all low key? Fuck you. A child was murdered by an agent of the state. Shot in the back.
No, you fucking moron. I'm trying to figure out the timeline for the events. You know what you're doing, you're reading something that you don't take the time to actually think through, and what you're reading is making you emotional. You're making a snap judgement, an alarming amount of them actually, without actually taking inventory of all the facts presented to you (sound familiar at all?). You pick one sentence out of that entire post and that's the point you scrutinize? You're acting outraged because you think you're entitled. Fuck me? None of that matters? Finding context in a scenario doesn't matter? No one said a teenager deserved to get shot in the back. If you actually took a second to read what I wrote, you'd notice I criticized the cop for reacting the way he did in the first place. I think he's a murderer. Will they feel the same way in a court of law? There are a lot of intangibles to that question and if you look at past trends you'll find that these cases usually don't result in the way they should. You know how you right that? You gather facts and make an actual argument. You don't break out the pitch forks and scream all pigs must die.
What facts matter other than the kid was shot in the back 20 yards away, running? Nothing that happened up until that point matters. I saw you covered your ass by saying IF the shooting wasn't justified the cop should be held accountable, yes. How is it even a question? Did you not watch the video?
Also LOLing hard at racist ass junky bawtawd wanting to have an honest discussion about racism...
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I feel so sorry for POC in these types of situations. No matter what they do, they are fucked. Whether Antwon ran away, or remained in the car.. the chances are that the odds are not in his favor.
RIP Antwon
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"Give the cop a medal and a raise"
damn. some folks are heartless. RIP
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All cops are bastards
This and there is no excuse for shooting someone in the fucking back. He'll be put on paid leave, pending an investigation and waste more tax payer money. This cunt just killed a kid and someone will try to justify it.
It's 2018 and we can't come up with a less lethal way to handle these situations?
I know several younger guys (from HS) who've joined the force and shouldn't be qualified to handle a pricegun at walmart, let alone a firearm. Ridiculous...
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only in america
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The piece of shit who murdered him was hired roughly 5 weeks ago and was sworn into the department around 3 hours before he killed this boy.
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The piece of shit who murdered him was hired roughly 5 weeks ago and was sworn into the department around 3 hours before he killed this boy.
what the actual fuck
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No surprise. The rookies only mimic what the older cops do.
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So if I'm getting the story straight:
- Shots fired call made to the police
- 22 year-old man found on street with bullet wounds to the abdomen.
- 22 year-old alleges that man in car was the aggressor, fired nine .40 caliber rounds from car initially.
- 22 year-old returns fire (both are armed), hits car with multiple rounds.
- Police see car that matches description moments later, with bullet holes in rear window
- Police stop car. Antwon Rose is a passenger in said car, along with a second passenger. Antwon Rose and 2nd passenger both attempt to flee. Driver stays in car.
- Antwon Rose runs away, police shoot him multiple (I'm hearing 3) times. Antwon Rose dies. 2nd passenger gets away
- Police search car. Police find 2 firearms in car. No weapons are found on Antwon Rose's person
- Driver of the car is 20 years-old. Is questioned, no wounds. Driver of car is released. 2nd passenger still at large.
Someone please fill me in on anything I'm missing. I'd assume the next thing they do is run ballistics and see if the two guns found match the .40 caliber rounds that hit 22 year-old. I saw someone post that you would be ill-advised to run from the police, especially if you're riding in a vehicle with bullet holes and weapons present, fair point. Regardless, the officer in question sounds like he reacted out of fear and impulse rather than accessing a situation, which is something that he should have been drilled through in his training. If they do find he shot Antwon unjustly, he should most definitely be charged with murder. Fucking awful thing to happen. Law enforcement should be held to higher standards, or at the very least show some fucking competence
None of that matters you twat. You trying to victim blame here all low key? Fuck you. A child was murdered by an agent of the state. Shot in the back.
Hey, hows that boot taste?
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So if I'm getting the story straight:
- Shots fired call made to the police
- 22 year-old man found on street with bullet wounds to the abdomen.
- 22 year-old alleges that man in car was the aggressor, fired nine .40 caliber rounds from car initially.
- 22 year-old returns fire (both are armed), hits car with multiple rounds.
- Police see car that matches description moments later, with bullet holes in rear window
- Police stop car. Antwon Rose is a passenger in said car, along with a second passenger. Antwon Rose and 2nd passenger both attempt to flee. Driver stays in car.
- Antwon Rose runs away, police shoot him multiple (I'm hearing 3) times. Antwon Rose dies. 2nd passenger gets away
- Police search car. Police find 2 firearms in car. No weapons are found on Antwon Rose's person
- Driver of the car is 20 years-old. Is questioned, no wounds. Driver of car is released. 2nd passenger still at large.
Someone please fill me in on anything I'm missing. I'd assume the next thing they do is run ballistics and see if the two guns found match the .40 caliber rounds that hit 22 year-old. I saw someone post that you would be ill-advised to run from the police, especially if you're riding in a vehicle with bullet holes and weapons present, fair point. Regardless, the officer in question sounds like he reacted out of fear and impulse rather than accessing a situation, which is something that he should have been drilled through in his training. If they do find he shot Antwon unjustly, he should most definitely be charged with murder. Fucking awful thing to happen. Law enforcement should be held to higher standards, or at the very least show some fucking competence
None of that matters you twat. You trying to victim blame here all low key? Fuck you. A child was murdered by an agent of the state. Shot in the back.
No, you fucking moron. I'm trying to figure out the timeline for the events. You know what you're doing, you're reading something that you don't take the time to actually think through, and what you're reading is making you emotional. You're making a snap judgement, an alarming amount of them actually, without actually taking inventory of all the facts presented to you (sound familiar at all?). You pick one sentence out of that entire post and that's the point you scrutinize? You're acting outraged because you think you're entitled. Fuck me? None of that matters? Finding context in a scenario doesn't matter? No one said a teenager deserved to get shot in the back. If you actually took a second to read what I wrote, you'd notice I criticized the cop for reacting the way he did in the first place. I think he's a murderer. Will they feel the same way in a court of law? There are a lot of intangibles to that question and if you look at past trends you'll find that these cases usually don't result in the way they should. You know how you right that? You gather facts and make an actual argument. You don't break out the pitch forks and scream all pigs must die.
What facts matter other than the kid was shot in the back 20 yards away, running? Nothing that happened up until that point matters. I saw you covered your ass by saying IF the shooting wasn't justified the cop should be held accountable, yes. How is it even a question? Did you not watch the video?
Also LOLing hard at racist ass junky bawtawd wanting to have an honest discussion about racism...
A lot of the facts matter. In fact, all of them do. For all you know, someone in that car just emptied nine .40 rounds into a 22 year-old man, and now they're driving around, doing who the fuck knows what. And for your information, there will be a debate on whether the shooting is justified, whether you like it or not. And guess what, there will be a circumstance that exists that this cop and his lawyers will use to "justify" it. When I say that word, this is the context I'm using it in. Cover my ass? My god I'm done. I don't have enough crayons to explain this shit to you. And ultimately, I do agree with you, even though you seem like an imbecile.
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The piece of shit who murdered him was hired roughly 5 weeks ago and was sworn into the department around 3 hours before he killed this boy.
Came in here to bring that up if it hadn't been. I live in Pittsburgh and watching the news last night made me sick/angry hearing the police chief talk about them "still investigating" when its on video what happened.
I never knew him, I'm sure I probably had seem him at a park or something.
it's really tragic.
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hope that cop gets the worst kind of cancer.
Nah fuck that cop I hope karma delivers him ass cancer too
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Shot in the back is a hard one to sell as "justified" but if anyone can do it it's US police.
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hope that cop gets the worst kind of cancer.
Nah fuck that cop I hope karma delivers him ass cancer too
Fuck that cop
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hopefully it's gonna start getting better w/ all the videos and shit but dreary for now. most people have to be affected by seeing these cop killings, right? once the cops start being held accountable this shit will die fast, i keep hoping we're on the cusp of it.
RIP
Here’s hoping but there is no evidence of happening anytime soon. They kill and get away with it every time, even with the videos. Human being with souls are affected by these videos but racist courts cops and judges are another story.
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rip .. that’s disgusting .. these dirty police officers need to go to jail and stop being protected .. the good cops out there should be the ones that stand up for the victims and stop allowing these pieces of shit to wear the badge
If they defend or stay silent about these killings, then they are not good cops. Which means most of them are actually “bad apples”. Blue code of silence=Blue code of violence.
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White kids are brought in alive
Black kids get hit with like five
Get scared, you panic, you're goin' down
The disadvantages of the brown
https://youtu.be/UArcNdxAKgM
Song hasn’t even been out a week
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Holy shit this news that the cop was just sworn in before murdering the kid somehow makes this situation even worse, which I didn't think was possible. I bet that there will soon be news articles detailing every single bad thing that this kid has done in his short lifetime to justify his murder.
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Pretty sure that cops goin down for that one. Still happened though. Start running from em in a zig zag pattern I guess. I never ran when they had gun already on me, you can feel those bullets, they ain't playing. I overheard a lot of cops and a lot are fucked in the head, plus they straight operate on dislike and fear. And they dislike and fear nigga shit the most. I don't know how to fix it but yeah, more cameras helps but more cameras suck too. I dunno man, I don't think shits gonna change as quick as people want. Its gonna be slow and this stuffs gonna keep happening in the meantime.
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There is never any justification for police shooting a kid in the back.
Some helpful advice for kids: If you get into shootouts in the streets you dramatically increase your chances of getting unjustly shot in the back by police. Refrain from this activity to increase your chances of making it to adulthood.
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Some helpful advice for idiots: Running from the police is not a capital crime for which you should receive the death penalty. Fleeing on foot is generally a misdemeanor for which you should not be killed.
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Some helpful advice for idiots: Running from the police is not a capital crime for which you should receive the death penalty. Fleeing on foot is generally a misdemeanor for which you should not be killed.
100% correct.
However, it has been proven that police don't seem to care about that.
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RIP
Just a reminder that there are no good cops. Cops that do stand up for what’s right do not remain cops.
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hope that cop gets the worst kind of cancer.
Nah fuck that cop I hope karma delivers him ass cancer too
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Holy shit this news that the cop was just sworn in before murdering the kid somehow makes this situation even worse, which I didn't think was possible. I bet that there will soon be news articles detailing every single bad thing that this kid has done in his short lifetime to justify his murder.
I'm not defending the cop in any way but those headlines are misleading. He was just sworn into this police dept. the day of the incident but he had been serving in other departments for 7-8yrs prior. Like I said, not making excuses for what happened but those headlines are click-bait and when you read the article it mentions he had served in other departments before being sworn in at this one.
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This isn't the first skateboarder to be gunned down by police. If I recall correctly, it happened in another skateboarders own front yard in California. Brea? A few years ago.
This is disgusting and equally heartbreaking. Seventeen year old kid, man. Fuck.
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you can hear someone saying "shoot those cocksuckers" hard to tell who said it but i hope it wasnt one of those cops.
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So if I'm getting the story straight:
- Shots fired call made to the police
- 22 year-old man found on street with bullet wounds to the abdomen.
- 22 year-old alleges that man in car was the aggressor, fired nine .40 caliber rounds from car initially.
- 22 year-old returns fire (both are armed), hits car with multiple rounds.
- Police see car that matches description moments later, with bullet holes in rear window
- Police stop car. Antwon Rose is a passenger in said car, along with a second passenger. Antwon Rose and 2nd passenger both attempt to flee. Driver stays in car.
- Antwon Rose runs away, police shoot him multiple (I'm hearing 3) times. Antwon Rose dies. 2nd passenger gets away
- Police search car. Police find 2 firearms in car. No weapons are found on Antwon Rose's person
- Driver of the car is 20 years-old. Is questioned, no wounds. Driver of car is released. 2nd passenger still at large.
Someone please fill me in on anything I'm missing. I'd assume the next thing they do is run ballistics and see if the two guns found match the .40 caliber rounds that hit 22 year-old. I saw someone post that you would be ill-advised to run from the police, especially if you're riding in a vehicle with bullet holes and weapons present, fair point. Regardless, the officer in question sounds like he reacted out of fear and impulse rather than accessing a situation, which is something that he should have been drilled through in his training. If they do find he shot Antwon unjustly, he should most definitely be charged with murder. Fucking awful thing to happen. Law enforcement should be held to higher standards, or at the very least show some fucking competence
None of that matters you twat. You trying to victim blame here all low key? Fuck you. A child was murdered by an agent of the state. Shot in the back.
This statement alone shows that you are too privileged to understand. I decided to look at your past posts and you said your number one favorite shop is in Malibu.
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Some helpful advice for idiots: Running from the police is not a capital crime for which you should receive the death penalty. Fleeing on foot is generally a misdemeanor for which you should not be killed.
Just out of curiosity, does this still apply if you're wanted for a drive-by shooting and you're suspected of being armed in a neighborhood? Without knowing the entire scenario that played out, it sure looks dirty, but there is more to a case than the 4 second instagram showing someone actually getting shot.
Not saying it was right or wrong, just saying that there are things that play into account. As an example, the Dallas shooter in 2016 was killed by the police without a trail, because he was deemed to dangerous to even try to arrest.
Based on the timeline posted by gino, it seems like someone played stupid games and won stupid prizes.
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RIP, that cop better have to deal with his actions, piece of shit
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Some helpful advice for idiots: Running from the police is not a capital crime for which you should receive the death penalty. Fleeing on foot is generally a misdemeanor for which you should not be killed.
Not saying it was right or wrong, just saying that there are things that play into account. As an example, the Dallas shooter in 2016 was killed by the police without a trail, because he was deemed to dangerous to even try to arrest.
Based on the timeline posted by gino, it seems like someone played stupid games and won stupid prizes.
Is the Dallas shooter, someone walking around in body armor who was heavily armed and actively engaged in murder that many people witnessed and filmed, really comparable to a 17 year old who was a passenger in a car that matched a description who tried to flee? I think the differences are obvious and incomparable. What's the difference between Matthew Broderick and Jeffrey Dahmer? They both killed people...
You may not realize it or mean it, but you're saying it's right. You're making excuses for why this shit is happening. Fleeing on foot, which is the only criminal act anyone KNOWS he committed, is not a crime you can be executed for. Period. The problem is not one of people fleeing, it's of police killing indiscriminately.
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Yeah, but he totally didn't respect the police, so...you know?
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Holy shit this news that the cop was just sworn in before murdering the kid somehow makes this situation even worse, which I didn't think was possible. I bet that there will soon be news articles detailing every single bad thing that this kid has done in his short lifetime to justify his murder.
I'm not defending the cop in any way but those headlines are misleading. He was just sworn into this police dept. the day of the incident but he had been serving in other departments for 7-8yrs prior. Like I said, not making excuses for what happened but those headlines are click-bait and when you read the article it mentions he had served in other departments before being sworn in at this one.
I hadn't seen that info thanks. I don't know if it's worse having someone who doesn't know what they're doing and kills a kid, or someone who knows exactly what they're doing and kills a kid. Either way ACAB
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this is fucked up man.. gives me chills.
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bullshit in every way. why shoot someone in the back? cowards
Still can't believe killing a suspect is the correct procedure in the States...
RIP Antwon
my dad was telling me a story of him running from a cop as a teen and having the cop threaten to shoot. he said at the time he scoffed at it and it was my initial reaction as well, but i guess thats a good example of white canadian privilege. it does happen here, but its definitely not as common
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There is never any justification for police shooting a kid in the back.
Some helpful advice for kids: If you get into shootouts in the streets you dramatically increase your chances of getting unjustly shot in the back by police. Refrain from this activity to increase your chances of making it to adulthood.
They might kill you anyway. Walter Scott had a busted headlight and got shot in the back for running. His case was an anomaly though because the pig actually went to jail. Doesn’t bring back Scott’s life though.
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When i was young a cop pressed his gun against my head and told me if i move he'll blow my brains out. My crime? I stole some beer. You bet your sweet ass i didn't move. Anyway ACAB!
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The "guys" name was Antwon Rose. Antwon should be out skating with his friends today hanging out. Instead he's in a body bag because the police are trained on how well they can shoot and not how well they can run. It is public knowledge that police officers in the US are generally rejected or reassigned because their IQ is too high.
Again let's repeat "His name was Antwon Rose". He could be your friend, the guy at the park, or someone on instagram. Either way his name is Antwon and his parents have to bury him. If his back was turned then that officer could have tackled/tased him.
Say Antwon's fucking name when you talk about him. If you're too lazy to even type it out when you try to point out that he somehow deserves to have his life taken from him at the age of 17 then go fuck fuck yourself. Stick to skating parks and licking boots.
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https://www.yahoo.com/gma/unarmed-black-teen-killed-cop-shot-upper-body-211703036--abc-news-topstories.html
Damn, there ruling it a homicide
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the coroner ruled it a homicide. i mean, he was shot w/ a gun that was aimed at him to shoot, not an accidental discharge. pretty clear cut cause of death.
that doesn't mean the cop has been/will be indicted.
if he has codefendants, they might get the charge cause that's how fucked up our laws are if anyone is murdered during a felony, even if it's your pal and the cop does the murdering, you can catch the charge.
god bless america.
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^^Ahh, thank you for the clarification.
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This story makes no sense. The vehicle they stopped was said to have bullet holes in the body and blown out glass. The car had guns in it and the driver was arrested and later released. The driver is a ‘Pitney’ driver which is said to be like an Uber type service. The driver was released which sounds like no charges were brought against him.
So, Antwan Rose and someone else hired a driver for a shoot out and the driver is arrested but not charged?
Am I reading this correctly? Is the reporting here terrible or I am missing something?
If the driver was involved in a shoot out he would be in jail right now charged with attempted murder for the shooting of the 22 year old, but he is not being charged it seems, so how was he not involved, but the two passages were?
Can anyone shed some light? Something is missing, or maybe I am missing something. Thanks
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This story makes no sense. The vehicle they stopped was said to have bullet holes in the body and blown out glass. The car had guns in it and the driver was arrested and later released. The driver is a ‘Pitney’ driver which is said to be like an Uber type service. The driver was released which sounds like no charges were brought against him.
So, Antwan Rose and someone else hired a driver for a shoot out and the driver is arrested but not charged?
Am I reading this correctly? Is the reporting here terrible or I am missing something?
If the driver was involved in a shoot out he would be in jail right now charged with attempted murder for the shooting of the 22 year old, but he is not being charged it seems, so how was he not involved, but the two passages were?
Can anyone shed some light? Something is missing, or maybe I am missing something. Thanks
It seems pretty likely that these kids were not the one that did the drive-by.
Regardless, another instance of white cops shooting unarmed black kids who pose no threat. Fuck anyone trying to justify this.
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Well the cars back window was broken, looks like it was shot out. I'm just guessing either a kidnap type thing or since the 22yo was armed it could of been a self defense thing and they actually helped the driver out.
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was homeboy involved in earlier shooting? were drugs involve?
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Amazing how many people still think the idea that they ran and must have been guilty makes it ok for them to be shot and killed.
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Well the cars back window was broken, looks like it was shot out. I'm just guessing either a kidnap type thing or since the 22yo was armed it could of been a self defense thing and they actually helped the driver out.
Actually probably more the second one since there was supposed bullet holes in the car. Probly just a bad scenario went down.
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This story makes no sense. The vehicle they stopped was said to have bullet holes in the body and blown out glass. The car had guns in it and the driver was arrested and later released. The driver is a ‘Pitney’ driver which is said to be like an Uber type service. The driver was released which sounds like no charges were brought against him.
So, Antwan Rose and someone else hired a driver for a shoot out and the driver is arrested but not charged?
Am I reading this correctly? Is the reporting here terrible or I am missing something?
If the driver was involved in a shoot out he would be in jail right now charged with attempted murder for the shooting of the 22 year old, but he is not being charged it seems, so how was he not involved, but the two passages were?
Can anyone shed some light? Something is missing, or maybe I am missing something. Thanks
Regardless, another instance of white cops shooting unarmed black kids who pose no threat. Fuck anyone trying to justify this.
But they found two semi-autos in the car that the kids bolted from...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/protests-erupt-following-fatal-police-shooting-17-year-old-antwon-n885196
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Have a feeling the officer is going to walk. Horrible situation for everyone.
Found this on the inter-webs so take it as you will.
"It doesn't seem to me that there is any justification ever for shooting an individual who is fleeing in the back," said the family's attorney Fred Rabner. Mr. Rabner should know better. Antwon Rose was riding in a car that matched the description of a car involved in a recent drive-by shooting during which the person who was shot at returned fire and blew out the back window of the suspect car in which Antwon Rose was riding. Firing a gun in a drive-by shooting is a felonious act committed by someone in the suspect car. Sworn police officers are required by statute in most states, and by sworn oath in all states, to immediately apprehend escaping felons or persons committing felonious acts without fail, no excuses, no ifs, ands, or buts, and are authorized to use any and all necessary and proportionate force, up to and including lethal force, to do so. Proportionate force means if the escaping felon or person committing felonious acts shows or uses a weapon (or was reported to have used a gun, or threatens or gives the appearance of doing so - i.e., has the real or apparent means, including a hand/finger hidden in a pocket and pointed as if it were a gun, or aiming a moving vehicle at an officer), the use of equal ('proportionate') force is reasonable to apprehend that person based on the 'reasonable fear' produced in the officer's mind when confronted by the real or apparent presence or threat of the weapon (thus the 'Get your hands out of your pockets right now!' command given to Milwaukee Bucks basketball player Sterling Brown two weeks by the Milwaukee police, to which he stupidly relied 'No, I got stuff in my hands!'). Current firearms training is to aim for the center mass and fire until the gun stops firing (jams, or runs out of ammo), or until the threat has been completely and thoroughly 'neutralized', which often means 'dead'. Center mass is defined as the area from the 'neck to the waist', including the front, side, and back - there is no exemption from being shot in the back - and there is no obligation for the officer to wait until the escaping felon/person committing felonious acts turns around so he can conveniently be shot in the front - since the requirement is to apprehend without fail by any and all necessary and proportionate means any and all fleeing felons and/or persons committing felonious acts). If the facts, situation, and circumstances in this shooting as reported in the media are correct (sometimes a big 'if'), the shooting will be regarded as a 'justifiable homicide' - because the officer reasonably suspected that the fleeing suspect had committed or was an accomplice in the commission of a felonious act. i.e., the drive-by shooting. Those facts, if correct, make this shooting a justifiable homicide."
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that doesn't mean the cop has been/will be indicted.
if he has codefendants, they might get the charge cause that's how fucked up our laws are if anyone is murdered during a felony, even if it's your pal and the cop does the murdering, you can catch the charge.
god bless america.
I had no idea you could get charged with felony murder if a police officer is the shooter. This is nuts.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/15/alabama-accomplice-law-lakeith-smith
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This story makes no sense. The vehicle they stopped was said to have bullet holes in the body and blown out glass. The car had guns in it and the driver was arrested and later released. The driver is a ‘Pitney’ driver which is said to be like an Uber type service. The driver was released which sounds like no charges were brought against him.
So, Antwan Rose and someone else hired a driver for a shoot out and the driver is arrested but not charged?
Am I reading this correctly? Is the reporting here terrible or I am missing something?
If the driver was involved in a shoot out he would be in jail right now charged with attempted murder for the shooting of the 22 year old, but he is not being charged it seems, so how was he not involved, but the two passages were?
Can anyone shed some light? Something is missing, or maybe I am missing something. Thanks
Regardless, another instance of white cops shooting unarmed black kids who pose no threat. Fuck anyone trying to justify this.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/protests-erupt-following-fatal-police-shooting-17-year-old-antwon-n885196
I hate when they say this like it's a machine gun or something. Just say hand guns instead of sensationalizing it.
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Some helpful advice for idiots: Running from the police is not a capital crime for which you should receive the death penalty. Fleeing on foot is generally a misdemeanor for which you should not be killed.
Not saying it was right or wrong, just saying that there are things that play into account. As an example, the Dallas shooter in 2016 was killed by the police without a trail, because he was deemed to dangerous to even try to arrest.
Based on the timeline posted by gino, it seems like someone played stupid games and won stupid prizes.
If the stuff Style Police posted above is correct, then it confirms what I thought. Not saying it's even close to being morally "right"- but it could be a reason why it happens. Is it a shit policy with room for major fuck-ups and unnecessary death? Absolutely.
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When i was young a cop pressed his gun against my head and told me if i move he'll blow my brains out. My crime? I stole some beer. You bet your sweet ass i didn't move. Anyway ACAB!
that sounds like some serious backwoods middle of nowhere cop technique.
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White kids are brought in alive
Black kids get hit with like five
Get scared, you panic, you're goin' down
The disadvantages of the brown
https://youtu.be/UArcNdxAKgM
Song hasn’t even been out a week
You do realize that white "kids" get shot in situations like this too right? It's just the media doesn't cover it because then stories like this wouldn't sell....
Obviously the officer involved panicked and made a mistake and needs to be held accountable, but shit happens when you have a split second to act. We're talking about a car loaded with weapons that was just used in a shootout, and a suspected person from that vehicle, who in that officer's eyes was now an immediate threat. The same thing would've happened if Antown was white. Guns are guns and it doesn't take a black finger to pull a trigger. It's just again the media selectively covers these stories, and unfortunately young males are involved in more of these kinds of situations.
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Have a feeling the officer is going to walk. Horrible situation for everyone.
Found this on the inter-webs so take it as you will.
"It doesn't seem to me that there is any justification ever for shooting an individual who is fleeing in the back," said the family's attorney Fred Rabner. Mr. Rabner should know better. Antwon Rose was riding in a car that matched the description of a car involved in a recent drive-by shooting during which the person who was shot at returned fire and blew out the back window of the suspect car in which Antwon Rose was riding. Firing a gun in a drive-by shooting is a felonious act committed by someone in the suspect car. Sworn police officers are required by statute in most states, and by sworn oath in all states, to immediately apprehend escaping felons or persons committing felonious acts without fail, no excuses, no ifs, ands, or buts, and are authorized to use any and all necessary and proportionate force, up to and including lethal force, to do so. Proportionate force means if the escaping felon or person committing felonious acts shows or uses a weapon (or was reported to have used a gun, or threatens or gives the appearance of doing so - i.e., has the real or apparent means, including a hand/finger hidden in a pocket and pointed as if it were a gun, or aiming a moving vehicle at an officer), the use of equal ('proportionate') force is reasonable to apprehend that person based on the 'reasonable fear' produced in the officer's mind when confronted by the real or apparent presence or threat of the weapon (thus the 'Get your hands out of your pockets right now!' command given to Milwaukee Bucks basketball player Sterling Brown two weeks by the Milwaukee police, to which he stupidly relied 'No, I got stuff in my hands!'). Current firearms training is to aim for the center mass and fire until the gun stops firing (jams, or runs out of ammo), or until the threat has been completely and thoroughly 'neutralized', which often means 'dead'. Center mass is defined as the area from the 'neck to the waist', including the front, side, and back - there is no exemption from being shot in the back - and there is no obligation for the officer to wait until the escaping felon/person committing felonious acts turns around so he can conveniently be shot in the front - since the requirement is to apprehend without fail by any and all necessary and proportionate means any and all fleeing felons and/or persons committing felonious acts). If the facts, situation, and circumstances in this shooting as reported in the media are correct (sometimes a big 'if'), the shooting will be regarded as a 'justifiable homicide' - because the officer reasonably suspected that the fleeing suspect had committed or was an accomplice in the commission of a felonious act. i.e., the drive-by shooting. Those facts, if correct, make this shooting a justifiable homicide."
They'll still take white school shooters in alive tho. Fuck cops
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When i was young a cop pressed his gun against my head and told me if i move he'll blow my brains out. My crime? I stole some beer. You bet your sweet ass i didn't move. Anyway ACAB!
i'd say a more west coast thing. i've had cops point guns at me twice in SF and once in oakland [while i was sleeping on a train engine]. might have to do w/ lax gun laws make cops more pussy/quick to draw but i've been arrested all over the country and hardly ever had guns on me. maybe indiana, i fell asleep on a train outta chicago once and woke up by cops at a coal plant.
that's my story anyways, maybe black kids get gun treatment in mass?
maybe my behavior was congruent w/ danger to those urban bay area cops?
ps in response to new posts, they definitley kill the hell outta some white people too, more overall than black [less statistically]. i think when they bring in the school shooters, maybe it's reticence about bucking in a school whereas ghetto is perceived as dangerous [i mean, cause statistically it is dangerous]?
it sucks that there's a schism because 'poor lives matter/stop killer cops' would have more leverage than 'black lives matter' and together it would be stronger but you know, divide and conquer.
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When i was young a cop pressed his gun against my head and told me if i move he'll blow my brains out. My crime? I stole some beer. You bet your sweet ass i didn't move. Anyway ACAB!
that's my story anyways, maybe black kids get gun treatment in mass?
maybe my behavior was congruent w/ danger to those urban bay area cops?
ps in response to new posts, they definitley kill the hell outta some white people too, more overall than black [less statistically]. i think when they bring in the school shooters, maybe it's reticence about bucking in a school whereas ghetto is perceived as dangerous [i mean, cause statistically it is dangerous]?
it sucks that there's a schism because 'poor lives matter/stop killer cops' would have more leverage than 'black lives matter' and together it would be stronger but you know, divide and conquer.
yeah shit aint like that in new england, been chased by cops, tackled, arrested, pulled over and searched, but never had a gun pulled on me.
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Some helpful advice for idiots: Running from the police is not a capital crime for which you should receive the death penalty. Fleeing on foot is generally a misdemeanor for which you should not be killed.
Not saying it was right or wrong, just saying that there are things that play into account. As an example, the Dallas shooter in 2016 was killed by the police without a trail, because he was deemed to dangerous to even try to arrest.
Based on the timeline posted by gino, it seems like someone played stupid games and won stupid prizes.
What style police posted is the police department covering their ass. The whole crux of that argument is the word "if". There has been no reports I've seen of an investigation starting, which doesn't mean it hasn't but it means they haven't reached any kind of conclusion if they have started one. All they've done is issue a statement to put a shield in front of their killer. The Allegeheny County Police Superintendent said it could be justified if the officer felt an imminent threat of death or if the suspect running away from the officer posed an immediate threat. You can watch the video again and decide for yourself if the officer had a reasonable fear for his safety or the safety of others. I mean the legally strict definition of immediate threat, the one that applies to the police, not TV cowboy logic of "well if* he was involved in a drive by...."
Standards should be higher but as long as people blame the victims they never will. That's why it can happen to you too, and there will be a chorus on the internet saying you probably deserved it.
* there's that word again
Police killings are a spectrum of right and wrong. Some are right, some are wrong, some are grey. This one is wrong and no statements from the police or their lawyers are going to change that.
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Bottom line. Fuck the police. The systematic killing and incarceration of young black men in this country is despicable.
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Instantaneous trial, sentencing & execution. By design.
American policing has always stayed true to its roots: slave recovery, worker repression & violent enforcement of the status quo.
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Instantaneous trial, sentencing & execution. By design.
American policing has always stayed true to its roots: slave recovery, worker repression & violent enforcement of the status quo.
Dude fucking thank you, i have had to explain this so many times to so many people in my life
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Instantaneous trial, sentencing & execution. By design.
American policing has always stayed true to its roots: slave recovery, worker repression & violent enforcement of the status quo.
One of the reasons I don't and never would live in America.
Fuck guns.
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They'll still take white school shooters in alive tho.
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FUCK ALL COPS...
This shit never changes. When I was a kid I was skating around my town with my close buddy at night... My buddies mom had pulled up to pick us up so we started jogging towards the car, cop came out of fucking nowhere and tackled the SHIT out of my friend... We freeze, cop was like "I FUCKING TOLD YOU TO STAY" we didn't hear shit, we didn't even know he was fucking behind us, he looks at us and realizes we are like fucking 11 years old and backs up... We reported it to the police station and of course nothing fucking came of it. Luckily he didn't draw his fucking gun on us like this scenario... Its just ever since Ive been a kid its always the same fucking story, cops think their dick is bigger than everyone else's and the get to fuck anybody they want without repercussion... And they can...
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Some helpful advice for idiots: Running from the police is not a capital crime for which you should receive the death penalty. Fleeing on foot is generally a misdemeanor for which you should not be killed.
RIP Antwon Rose
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Dumbass shouldn't of ran considering how trigger happy cops have become now. The cop should be sentenced to death but probably won't happen as always. Before you SJW fucks tear this post apart I'm also a POC who understands damn well how society is right now.
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America!
The lucky suckle teat others chaw pig knuckle meat
In America!
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FUCK ALL COPS...
This shit never changes. When I was a kid I was skating around my town with my close buddy at night... My buddies mom had pulled up to pick us up so we started jogging towards the car, cop came out of fucking nowhere and tackled the SHIT out of my friend... We freeze, cop was like "I FUCKING TOLD YOU TO STAY" we didn't hear shit, we didn't even know he was fucking behind us, he looks at us and realizes we are like fucking 11 years old and backs up... We reported it to the police station and of course nothing fucking came of it. Luckily he didn't draw his fucking gun on us like this scenario... Its just ever since Ive been a kid its always the same fucking story, cops think their dick is bigger than everyone else's and the get to fuck anybody they want without repercussion... And they can...
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Dumbass shouldn't of ran considering how trigger happy cops have become now. The cop should be sentenced to death but probably won't happen as always. Before you SJW fucks tear this post apart I'm also a POC who understands damn well how society is right now.
www.itsalwaysthevictimsfault.com
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I'm very surprised no one was shot at LOVE back in the day. They'd run over a 12 year old with their fucking dirtbikes and not think twice about it.
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Dumbass shouldn't of ran considering how trigger happy cops have become now. The cop should be sentenced to death but probably won't happen as always. Before you SJW fucks tear this post apart I'm also a POC who understands damn well how society is right now.
You're out of your element Ricky
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Dumbass shouldn't of ran considering how trigger happy cops have become now. The cop should be sentenced to death but probably won't happen as always. Before you SJW fucks tear this post apart I'm also a POC who understands damn well how society is right now.
Take's too hot bruh...
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Riding around w/ guns, getting into shootouts, running from the police. Apparenlty the kid had an empty clip in his pocket.
How was this not a foreseeable consequence of his actions? He is the one who put himself in this volatile and ultimately fatal situation. No one else put him there. If you act like this in a large metropolitan city in the US, this will eventually be the end game. If the homeboys don't get you (sounds like they almost did) - the cops will. There is no way around it.
I'm young black male and grew up in the largest city in the south. I have only had one interaction w/ the police and it was to kindly tell me that my taillight was out. I had nothing to hide, turned off my vehicle, was respectful, and so was the officer. I guess I'm just priveledged huh? Or maybe just savvy enough not to tempt fate in a situation where I can only lose.
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Or you're an uncle tom
Every situation is different and you're trying to justify killing somebody because they ran away from a rookie cop with a power trip you're trash
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Or you're an uncle tom
Every situation is different and you're trying to justify killing somebody because they ran away from a rookie cop with a power trip you're trash
If you don't defend criminals that are responsible for terrorizing their city and turning it into a post apocolyptic wasteland your an uncle tom. THIS logic is why blacks will forever be a permanent underclass.
The irony is that its the gangbangers, thugs, wannabe rappers and drug dealers, that make it harder young black males to be taken seriously and ascend the social ladder. Their behavior should embarrass and anger you, but instead you defend it.
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Riding around w/ guns, getting into shootouts, running from the police. Apparenlty the kid had an empty clip in his pocket.
How was this not a foreseeable consequence of his actions? He is the one who put himself in this volatile and ultimately fatal situation. No one else put him there. If you act like this in a large metropolitan city in the US, this will eventually be the end game. If the homeboys don't get you (sounds like they almost did) - the cops will. There is no way around it.
I'm young black male and grew up in the largest city in the south. I have only had one interaction w/ the police and it was to kindly tell me that my taillight was out. I had nothing to hide, turned off my vehicle, was respectful, and so was the officer. I guess I'm just priveledged huh? Or maybe just savvy enough not to tempt fate in a situation where I can only lose.
An empty clip isn't a weapon, and possession of one is not only not a crime but has been argued for longer than I've been alive as being a 2nd amendment right (for the chosen ones that applies to). Unless the empty clip was itself pointing a gun at the officer, his possession of it is irrelevant. Not to mention the officer not having precognition and not knowing of it's existence until searching his corpse. The sentence comes after the crime.
He put himself in a situation to receive a misdemeanor fleeing charge, not a death sentence. How do we know he didn't get in over his head with some shitty people, was holding a clip because it felt unsafe not to do it, and fled when he had the chance because he was terrified of both his company and the guy who would soon murder him? White people do it all the time. We know that as much as that he was out gang bangin' and participating in the apocalypse of his city but you'd rather sentence him first. Why does that sound familiar?
It is a reasonable expectation to not be murdered during a traffic stop. It is a reasonable expectation to not be murdered by the police at all, if you aren't imminently threatening their lives. He did a lot of stupid things that day and not a single one of them was punishable by death. If you think it requires savvy to not be executed because your taillight is out, then you've normalized the problem and allow it to continue.
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Running from the police is an incredibly dangerous situation for every one involved. Shit can go south real quick, and the threshold for deadly action becomes almost nonexistent. Most cops are not going to wait until they are staring down the barrel of a gun to react, especially when rolling up to alleged armed and dangerous suspects. They didn't get called out there for a taillight violation.
Again, no one is saying he deserved it. I only said it was a foreseeable risk to his already reckless behavior.
Lets say the bullet that killed him dind't come from the cop, but instead from the guy that ended up firing back at the car after getting shot in the torso. Would we still be making the argument "but he didn't deserve to die!" No it would be ridiculous. In fact we wouldn't even be having this conversation, this thread wouldn't exist, and Antwon Rose Jr. would be another nameless statistic in a pointless, never ending trend of black youth violence. You starting to see how this works?
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You starting to see how this works?
Yeah, I think I get it now. You're making up weird scenarios to justify this unnecessary murder.
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saw a guy carrying a avocado once, good thing i didn't think it was a grenade, or that he was black, or started running, or I was a cop, or it happened in america, cause the threshold for deadly action'd become almost nonexistent
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Its no secret he was playing with fire and got burned. Its no secret the cop murdered him.
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Running from the police is an incredibly dangerous situation for every one involved. Shit can go south real quick, and the threshold for deadly action becomes almost nonexistent. Most cops are not going to wait until they are staring down the barrel of a gun to react, especially when rolling up to alleged armed and dangerous suspects. They didn't get called out there for a taillight violation.
Again, no one is saying he deserved it. I only said it was a foreseeable risk to his already reckless behavior.
Lets say the bullet that killed him dind't come from the cop, but instead from the guy that ended up firing back at the car after getting shot in the torso. Would we still be making the argument "but he didn't deserve to die!" No it would be ridiculous. In fact we wouldn't even be having this conversation, this thread wouldn't exist, and Antwon Rose Jr. would be another nameless statistic in a pointless, never ending trend of black youth violence. You starting to see how this works?
What if the international space station fell on him? What if a million things that didn't happen happened? If he was killed in cross fire yes, that would be different. That would be a foreseeable risk to his reckless behavior. You know what would happen to the shooter in that situation? He would be charged with murder. It would be different if it were different. I don't think that's the brilliant point you thought you were going to make.
EDIT: Do I even have to mention that waiting until a gun is even visible is what qualifies it as an imminent threat and justify the officer shooting? A report of a shooting does not mean fire at will.
You won't get it until it happens to you.
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Apparently the officer was fired from his previous job for being too violent and falsifying reports
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EDIT: Do I even have to mention that waiting until a gun is even visible is what qualifies it as an imminent threat and justify the officer shooting? A report of a shooting does not mean fire at will.
You won't get it until it happens to you.
No you didn't have to mention it because its NOT EVEN FUCKING TURE. Statutes of Pennsylvania title 18: Fleeing Felon rule:
Peace officer's use of force in making arrest.--
(1) A peace officer, or any person whom he has summoned or directed to assist him, need not retreat or desist from efforts to make a lawful arrest because of resistance or threatened resistance to the arrest. He is justified in the use of any force which he believes to be necessary to effect the arrest and of any force which he believes to be necessary to defend himself or another from bodily harm while making the arrest. However, he is justified in using deadly force only when he believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or serious bodily injury to himself or such other person, or when he believes both that:
(i) such force is necessary to prevent the arrest from being defeated by resistance or escape; and
(ii) the person to be arrested has committed or attempted a forcible felony or is attempting to escape and possesses a deadly weapon, or otherwise indicates that he will endanger human life or inflict serious bodily injury unless arrested without delay.
Shooting was justified before it even happened. Thanks for playing.
Edit: I underlined the important parts just in case you had any trouble.
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EDIT: Do I even have to mention that waiting until a gun is even visible is what qualifies it as an imminent threat and justify the officer shooting? A report of a shooting does not mean fire at will.
You won't get it until it happens to you.
No you didn't have to mention it because its NOT EVEN FUCKING TURE. Statutes of Pennsylvania title 18: Fleeing Felon rule:
Peace officer's use of force in making arrest.--
(1) A peace officer, or any person whom he has summoned or directed to assist him, need not retreat or desist from efforts to make a lawful arrest because of resistance or threatened resistance to the arrest. He is justified in the use of any force which he believes to be necessary to effect the arrest and of any force which he believes to be necessary to defend himself or another from bodily harm while making the arrest. However, he is justified in using deadly force only when he believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or serious bodily injury to himself or such other person, or when he believes both that:
(i) such force is necessary to prevent the arrest from being defeated by resistance or escape; and
(ii) the person to be arrested has committed or attempted a forcible felony or is attempting to escape and possesses a deadly weapon, or otherwise indicates that he will endanger human life or inflict serious bodily injury unless arrested without delay.
Shooting was justified before it even happened. Thanks for playing.
Edit: I underlined the important parts just in case you had any trouble.
Interesting. Cop knew what he was doin. In my state you gotta be in felony custody for them to shoot you while escaping. Good to always know the law so you know what your getting into. They should fight for a change to that law. We'll see how its interpreted and plays out.
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Riding around w/ guns, getting into shootouts, running from the police. Apparenlty the kid had an empty clip in his pocket.
How was this not a foreseeable consequence of his actions? He is the one who put himself in this volatile and ultimately fatal situation. No one else put him there. If you act like this in a large metropolitan city in the US, this will eventually be the end game. If the homeboys don't get you (sounds like they almost did) - the cops will. There is no way around it.
Why do you assume he is guilty? Look at this kid, you really think he's doing drive by's?
(https://cbspittsburgh.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/antwon-rose.jpg?w=420&h=236)
Apparently he was in AP classes and worked at the local free store
“He was a really excellent student,” said Superintendent Alan Johnson. “He was involved in advance placement classes, he was a gifted student, he certainly had everything to look forward to, he was very well-liked by teachers. I know a number of teachers at the high school are pretty badly shaken up, the principal knew him well.”
Rose worked at The Free Store in Braddock, which is run by Mayor John Fetterman’s wife, Gisele.
“He was a funny, goofy kid who loved chasing children around the store,” Gisele Fetterman said.
He didn't have any weapons on him and the driver of the car Rose fled from wasn't charged was allegedly not involved in the drive-by the cops were responding to.
If the driver of the car the kid ran from was the driver of the drive by, you know he would have been locked up for questioning.
Maybe, just maybe, he ran from that car because he's seen so many videos of black people doing every thing correctly around the cops, and still being murdered.
The man who was driving 17-year-old Antwon Rose Jr. and one other suspect before a confrontation with police in East Pittsburgh Tuesday night was a jitney driver who had nothing to do with a shooting that occurred minutes before an officer shot and killed Rose.
I'm young black male and grew up in the largest city in the south. I have only had one interaction w/ the police and it was to kindly tell me that my taillight was out. I had nothing to hide, turned off my vehicle, was respectful, and so was the officer. I guess I'm just priveledged huh? Or maybe just savvy enough not to tempt fate in a situation where I can only lose.
You are privileged, and it's coloring the way you look at the state's murder of black people. It's called survivorship bias.
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It is very unreasonable to say "I don't get in trouble with the police and I'm a good boy so therefore all the people that do get in trouble with the police are bad boys"
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Riding around w/ guns, getting into shootouts, running from the police. Apparenlty the kid had an empty clip in his pocket.
How was this not a foreseeable consequence of his actions? He is the one who put himself in this volatile and ultimately fatal situation. No one else put him there. If you act like this in a large metropolitan city in the US, this will eventually be the end game. If the homeboys don't get you (sounds like they almost did) - the cops will. There is no way around it.
(https://cbspittsburgh.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/antwon-rose.jpg?w=420&h=236)
Apparently he was in AP classes and worked at the local free store
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You are privileged, and it's coloring the way you look at the state's murder of black people. It's called survivorship bias.
I used my example to show that racist white cops are not roaming the streets thirsty for negro blood. Some people actually think this is the case, and it colors their interactions with police.
I was also trying to point out that there are ways to avoid finding yourself in these situations. NOT riding around with guns and running when cops try to pull you over is a very basic start.
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EDIT: Do I even have to mention that waiting until a gun is even visible is what qualifies it as an imminent threat and justify the officer shooting? A report of a shooting does not mean fire at will.
You won't get it until it happens to you.
No you didn't have to mention it because its NOT EVEN FUCKING TURE. Statutes of Pennsylvania title 18: Fleeing Felon rule:
Peace officer's use of force in making arrest.--
(1) A peace officer, or any person whom he has summoned or directed to assist him, need not retreat or desist from efforts to make a lawful arrest because of resistance or threatened resistance to the arrest. He is justified in the use of any force which he believes to be necessary to effect the arrest and of any force which he believes to be necessary to defend himself or another from bodily harm while making the arrest. However, he is justified in using deadly force only when he believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or serious bodily injury to himself or such other person, or when he believes both that:
(i) such force is necessary to prevent the arrest from being defeated by resistance or escape; and
(ii) the person to be arrested has committed or attempted a forcible felony or is attempting to escape and possesses a deadly weapon, or otherwise indicates that he will endanger human life or inflict serious bodily injury unless arrested without delay.
Shooting was justified before it even happened. Thanks for playing.
Edit: I underlined the important parts just in case you had any trouble.
Alright you got me, the law does state that and it does further cloud the issue. The cop's belief in the things that allow him to shoot have to be justified, did you know that one? You can't say "I thought he was a werewolf 'cus I believe in werewolves." I can sense how excited you are to finally gain a point in the murdered children game, so here you go here's one psychotic bootlicker fun buck you can redeem to a cop right before he shoots you.
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shit about to get real when you leave the scene of a shooting in shot out car with guns then run from cops
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Running from the police is an incredibly dangerous situation for every one involved. Shit can go south real quick, and the threshold for deadly action becomes almost nonexistent. Most cops are not going to wait until they are staring down the barrel of a gun to react, especially when rolling up to alleged armed and dangerous suspects.
Then they don't react, but act based on an assumption. How come so many of you dig deep into pseudo-psychology to relativize the cop's behavior, but not think about how a kid might simply panic when engaged by the police and run? Police training and culture in the US must be so fucked for something like this to happen.
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american police are poorly trained.
in the millitary, soldiers are trained to not shoot civilians unless shot at first when they're in a foreign country.
i don't see how anybody can justify being shooting someone in the back as they're running away.
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Damn, this is hard to process. Cops are shit and fuck them, but if Antwon and his boy did a drive by in a jitney (unregistered cab), they could have been looking at enough time to nullify their lives anyway. The scenario I'm seeing is that they held some guy at gunpoint (jitney driver), did a drive by, got shot at in retaliation and bolted once it was time to answer for their actions. So many passionate cop haters will only see their side and canonize the dead, but there's a chance that Antwon's life (the best 30 years of it) was gone before he got shot.
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Damn, this is hard to process. Cops are shit and fuck them, but if Antwon and his boy did a drive by in a jitney (unregistered cab), they could have been looking at enough time to nullify their lives anyway. The scenario I'm seeing is that they held some guy at gunpoint (jitney driver), did a drive by, got shot at in retaliation and bolted once it was time to answer for their actions. So many passionate cop haters will only see their side and canonize the dead, but there's a chance that Antwon's life (the best 30 years of it) was gone before he got shot.
you're right, passionate cop haters will blame the cop [who did shoot a kid in the back] and cop lovers will use the fact of crime to justify his murder.
as much as i'd rather [from a karmic perspective] see bad mammerjammers get killed by cop [if anyone has to] it undermines the black lives movement. when the kid stole cigars in ferguson, to me it doesn't justify it but to a large segment of the population it does.
who we need to win over if we're gonna gain any traction in holdiing police accountable.
nothing comes from 'trolling' the other side, but if they can see police victims as human then we'll be ready for change.
on the opposite end, hard as this is for me personally and a lot of other people, we have to see cops as human first.
not saying i'm that evolved yet but that's where it needs to go.
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Damn, this is hard to process. Cops are shit and fuck them, but if Antwon and his boy did a drive by in a jitney (unregistered cab), they could have been looking at enough time to nullify their lives anyway. The scenario I'm seeing is that they held some guy at gunpoint (jitney driver), did a drive by, got shot at in retaliation and bolted once it was time to answer for their actions. So many passionate cop haters will only see their side and canonize the dead, but there's a chance that Antwon's life (the best 30 years of it) was gone before he got shot.
that what im saying with you, you right
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Damn, this is hard to process. Cops are shit and fuck them, but if Antwon and his boy did a drive by in a jitney (unregistered cab), they could have been looking at enough time to nullify their lives anyway. The scenario I'm seeing is that they held some guy at gunpoint (jitney driver), did a drive by, got shot at in retaliation and bolted once it was time to answer for their actions. So many passionate cop haters will only see their side and canonize the dead, but there's a chance that Antwon's life (the best 30 years of it) was gone before he got shot.
as much as i'd rather [from a karmic perspective] see bad mammerjammers get killed by cop [if anyone has to] it undermines the black lives movement. when the kid stole cigars in ferguson, to me it doesn't justify it but to a large segment of the population it does.
who we need to win over if we're gonna gain any traction in holdiing police accountable.
nothing comes from 'trolling' the other side, but if they can see police victims as human then we'll be ready for change.
on the opposite end, hard as this is for me personally and a lot of other people, we have to see cops as human first.
not saying i'm that evolved yet but that's where it needs to go.
damn man, dont be stealing cigars then!
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More pussy for me as Biebel would say.
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More pussy for me as Biebel would say.
wow what a insightful piece of information
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Cool great work being pieces of shit
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Cool great work being pieces of shit
that constructive post...
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White kids are brought in alive
Black kids get hit with like five
Get scared, you panic, you're goin' down
The disadvantages of the brown
https://youtu.be/UArcNdxAKgM
Song hasn’t even been out a week
You do realize that white "kids" get shot in situations like this too right? It's just the media doesn't cover it because then stories like this wouldn't sell....
Obviously the officer involved panicked and made a mistake and needs to be held accountable, but shit happens when you have a split second to act. We're talking about a car loaded with weapons that was just used in a shootout, and a suspected person from that vehicle, who in that officer's eyes was now an immediate threat. The same thing would've happened if Antown was white. Guns are guns and it doesn't take a black finger to pull a trigger. It's just again the media selectively covers these stories, and unfortunately young males are involved in more of these kinds of situations.
I don’t know what country you’re from but surely it can’t be America if youre unaware of pigs historically and currently treating black people worse than white people.
White people do not get killed for nothing by cops with the same frequency that black people do, at all.
That lyric I posted is extremely accurate.
Was Walter Scott a threat?
Freddie Gray?
Why did Eric Garner have to die?
Dylan fucking Roof gets taken alive though.
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White kids are brought in alive
Black kids get hit with like five
Get scared, you panic, you're goin' down
The disadvantages of the brown
https://youtu.be/UArcNdxAKgM
Song hasn’t even been out a week
Dylan fucking Roof gets taken alive though.
these type of arguments are really frustrating. of course he was taken alive, this was an extremely high profile case that would undoubtedly be subject to intense scrutiny, so they obviously played it by the book. The DC snipers were also taken alive, so what's your point?
The other ones you mentioned were street interactions where cops didn't know they were being filmed. They thought they would get away with it. If they had the chance to kill Dylan Roof and get away with it, don't you think they would have? do you really think they were easy on him because he was white? if they would have killed him, or even beaten him up, their case would be taken apart with a fine toothed comb.
cops are opportunists. they get away with things when they know (or think) they can. at the end of the day, if they want to fuck with you, they will fuck with you, no matter your race, gender, or class, and there is nothing any of us can do about it. they are loyal to each other, we are all the enemy to them, and they will kill you if they think they will not face repercussions.
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White kids are brought in alive
Black kids get hit with like five
Get scared, you panic, you're goin' down
The disadvantages of the brown
https://youtu.be/UArcNdxAKgM
Song hasn’t even been out a week
Dylan fucking Roof gets taken alive though.
these type of arguments are really frustrating. of course he was taken alive, this was an extremely high profile case that would undoubtedly be subject to intense scrutiny, so they obviously played it by the book. The DC snipers were also taken alive, so what's your point?
The other ones you mentioned were street interactions where cops didn't know they were being filmed. They thought they would get away with it. If they had the chance to kill Dylan Roof and get away with it, don't you think they would have? do you really think they were easy on him because he was white? if they would have killed him, or even beaten him up, their case would be taken apart with a fine toothed comb.
cops are opportunists. they get away with things when they know (or think) they can. at the end of the day, if they want to fuck with you, they will fuck with you, no matter your race, gender, or class, and there is nothing any of us can do about it. they are loyal to each other, we are all the enemy to them, and they will kill you if they think they will not face repercussions.
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White kids are brought in alive
Black kids get hit with like five
Get scared, you panic, you're goin' down
The disadvantages of the brown
https://youtu.be/UArcNdxAKgM
Song hasn’t even been out a week
Dylan fucking Roof gets taken alive though.
these type of arguments are really frustrating. of course he was taken alive, this was an extremely high profile case that would undoubtedly be subject to intense scrutiny, so they obviously played it by the book. The DC snipers were also taken alive, so what's your point?
The other ones you mentioned were street interactions where cops didn't know they were being filmed. They thought they would get away with it. If they had the chance to kill Dylan Roof and get away with it, don't you think they would have? do you really think they were easy on him because he was white? if they would have killed him, or even beaten him up, their case would be taken apart with a fine toothed comb.
cops are opportunists. they get away with things when they know (or think) they can. at the end of the day, if they want to fuck with you, they will fuck with you, no matter your race, gender, or class, and there is nothing any of us can do about it. they are loyal to each other, we are all the enemy to them, and they will kill you if they think they will not face repercussions.
Bruh, unarmed black people being far more likely to be killed by police isn’t really a matter of my opinion. Studies show it, despite cops making it as hard as possible because they basically don’t keep record of unarmed people they kill.
You’re right, they are opportunists, and they know they will not be held responsible for killing black people if they say the magic words “I feared for my life”. They think twice more about shooting a white kid. Yes I think cops are easier on white people.
Police in America are racist towards black people? This is really what we’re debating right now? I thought this was painfully obvious at this point.
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Bottom line. Fuck the police. The systematic killing and incarceration of young black men in this country is despicable.
Instantaneous trial, sentencing & execution. By design.
American policing has always stayed true to its roots: slave recovery, worker repression & violent enforcement of the status quo.
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Bottom line. Fuck the police. The systematic killing and incarceration of young black men in this country is despicable.
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Instantaneous trial, sentencing & execution. By design.
American policing has always stayed true to its roots: slave recovery, worker repression & violent enforcement of the status quo.
(https://i.imgur.com/f7FdEdG.jpg)
you misplaced me there, i dont understand what your saying. he was in car fleeing from a shooting, the car shot up, he had empty magazine on him, he running from popo, he got shot. coincidence? probably threat to community
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White kids are brought in alive
Black kids get hit with like five
Get scared, you panic, you're goin' down
The disadvantages of the brown
https://youtu.be/UArcNdxAKgM
Song hasn’t even been out a week
Dylan fucking Roof gets taken alive though.
these type of arguments are really frustrating. of course he was taken alive, this was an extremely high profile case that would undoubtedly be subject to intense scrutiny, so they obviously played it by the book. The DC snipers were also taken alive, so what's your point?
The other ones you mentioned were street interactions where cops didn't know they were being filmed. They thought they would get away with it. If they had the chance to kill Dylan Roof and get away with it, don't you think they would have? do you really think they were easy on him because he was white? if they would have killed him, or even beaten him up, their case would be taken apart with a fine toothed comb.
cops are opportunists. they get away with things when they know (or think) they can. at the end of the day, if they want to fuck with you, they will fuck with you, no matter your race, gender, or class, and there is nothing any of us can do about it. they are loyal to each other, we are all the enemy to them, and they will kill you if they think they will not face repercussions.
Bruh, unarmed black people being far more likely to be killed by police isn’t really a matter of my opinion. Studies show it, despite cops making it as hard as possible because they basically don’t keep record of unarmed people they kill.
You’re right, they are opportunists, and they know they will not be held responsible for killing black people if they say the magic words “I feared for my life”. They think twice more about shooting a white kid. Yes I think cops are easier on white people.
Police in America are racist towards black people? This is really what we’re debating right now? I thought this was painfully obvious at this point.
not saying that police in America aren't systematically racist, I'm saying you're making a false equivalency.
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Bottom line. Fuck the police. The systematic killing and incarceration of young black men in this country is despicable.
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Instantaneous trial, sentencing & execution. By design.
American policing has always stayed true to its roots: slave recovery, worker repression & violent enforcement of the status quo.
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Yeah but how do you fix it? That shits ingrained deep. Its like too complex. I mean its just social perceptions and law though really. And it all comes down to the individuals involved how it plays out.
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police shoot people no reason where you live?
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police shoot people no reason where you live?
Yes. Why did Eric Garner have to die?
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This isn't the first skateboarder to be gunned down by police. If I recall correctly, it happened in another skateboarders own front yard in California. Brea? A few years ago.
yea on June 30 2010 in front of his parents million dollar home, he's my best friend... these stories kill me. I'm so sorry for all of Antwon's friends and family. If you were close to him don't be afraid to talk to someone about what you're feeling. I didnt and it took me a long time to feel normal after my friend passed. FUCK THE POLICE!
This is disgusting and equally heartbreaking. Seventeen year old kid, man. Fuck.
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if you say fuck the police, then dont call them when someone break into your home or something happen to you
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if you say fuck the police, then dont call them when someone break into your home or something happen to you
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For first world nations - does this really ONLY occur in the USA? I know in a lot of other places police officers are not armed with firearms - right? Aussie, Euro , Asian etc please chime in - how often does police misconduct occur?
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if you say fuck the police, then dont call them when someone break into your home or something happen to you
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For first world nations - does this really ONLY occur in the USA? I know in a lot of other places police officers are not armed with firearms - right? Aussie, Euro , Asian etc please chime in - how often does police misconduct occur?
I got beat up by cops and so did friends, ligitimate reasons obvs ::)
cops wear guns here but
they aim and shoot (under the belt) about 50 to a 100 times a year, hitting 17 people, killing 3
which is a high number compared to other eu countries (only 17 million people living in the Netherlands).
(I think thats about 1 per 5 million, whereas in britain its 1 in 27 mil)
non- white officers leave the policeforce early due to a 'racist culture' and less obvious systematic racism, hardly any coloured officer gets promotion.
then again our jails are not full, they're empty, closing down.
and 'offenders' are hardly ever armed, only 1 police death in 3 yrs
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For first world nations - does this really ONLY occur in the USA? I know in a lot of other places police officers are not armed with firearms - right? Aussie, Euro , Asian etc please chime in - how often does police misconduct occur?
Cases of police breaking the law are a little bit harder to find numbers about. However, in 2017, the German police shot 15 people, which as far as I know is the highest count in Europe. In the USA, the police shot 976 people. Population is only four times larger.
I cannot remember a single case of someone being shot in the back by the police in Germany in the past 20 years. Which makes sense, because it is completely stupid.
This is not to say that there is no police violence in Germany. There have been a lot of racist incidents, too. Completely different scale, however.
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I grew up in Melbourne, Victoria and Victorian cops are armed, aggressive and often corrupt. Avoid at all costs. They have a long history of shooting dead the mentally ill and asking questions later. They've also been implicated in shootings of career criminals who manage to beat the courts.
I've lived in London for 15 years and police do not carry fire arms here. Only some of them carry tasers, and only special armed response units have guns. Your average cop on the street is going to be a lot nicer to you because they "police by consent". Black people have a far higher rate of contact with police but the black people I know never claim they're victimised. The force was well know for institutional racism but has made efforts to reform.
Armed responses to situations here can be a mixed bag results wise but in general the officer/s involved doesn't get charged. There was the Brazilian guy they shot on the tube in a case of mistaken identity, and then Marc Duggen who they shot thinking he had a gun (he'd dumped it meters away) and that started the last London riots.
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It seems like other first world countries have a less acceptance of law enforcement that isn’t really accountable to the public or civilian authorities.
Here in the US you also have a large segment of the population that doesn’t give a shit about black people and an overlapping population that firmly believes in violence as deterrence and that crime is best handled with force.
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if you say fuck the police, then dont call them when someone break into your home or something happen to you
I say fuck the police and i don't call them ever. I will shoot an intruder without hesitation.
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For first world nations - does this really ONLY occur in the USA? I know in a lot of other places police officers are not armed with firearms - right? Aussie, Euro , Asian etc please chime in - how often does police misconduct occur?
Australian Police in general are armed, standard issued pistols but in rural cities you'll rarely see them with guns out unless its is requested by the call out, majority of the time its just tasers, stuns, stick and/or spray.
The Rural city I live in recently had a mentally ill person walk into a titty bar with two loaded bolt action rifles fired multiple shots into the air and was arrested unharmed (yes he was white), but about ten years ago there was also a bikie (motocycle gang) shootout to which police were only authorized to shoot for restraint ie; clipping a shoulder or leg.
We however can be pulled over (driving, riding or walking) at anytime, even if we're abiding the law, you can be tested for alcohol/drugs at any given moment which is how they meet their arrest quota... well that and speeding camera's.
In the sense of racism, Australia was kinda founded on it so I'll let you work it out.
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You starting to see how this works?
Yeah, I think I get it now. You're making up weird scenarios to justify this unnecessary murder.
It’s actually not weird at all. It easily could’ve ended up that way.
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You are privileged, and it's coloring the way you look at the state's murder of black people. It's called survivorship bias.
I used my example to show that racist white cops are not roaming the streets thirsty for negro blood. Some people actually think this is the case, and it colors their interactions with police.
I was also trying to point out that there are ways to avoid finding yourself in these situations. NOT riding around with guns and running when cops try to pull you over is a very basic start.
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if you say fuck the police, then dont call them when someone break into your home or something happen to you
Cool with me. Last time I called the cops after getting robbed they told me I should live in a different neighborhood.
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if you say fuck the police, then dont call them when someone break into your home or something happen to you
What do you do after shooting an intruder? Do you just let the person decompose on your lawn?
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if you say fuck the police, then dont call them when someone break into your home or something happen to you
Cool with me. Last time I called the cops after getting robbed they told me I should live in a different neighborhood.
Yep. Calling them is pointless almost all of the time. Cops aren’t going to do shit for you and can’t be trusted.
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The last time I called the cops was because some drunk idiot sideswiped my car and a bunch of others in front of my apartment. I heard it go down and went out to check it out, I see a bashed up honda with a dude passed out in the driver's seat across the street. I called the cops, they showed up, I told them what happened. There was different paint all over the front end of this car and his mirror was gone. Cop looked at me and said there was no proof it was this person and left. My insurance couldn't waive my deductible for the repair because it was treated like a hit and run.
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if you say fuck the police, then dont call them when someone break into your home or something happen to you
I'll cross that bridge when i get to it.
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cops have no obligation to protect you
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It used to be that's cops usually shot to kill when someone runs at them even with no weapon! (Which is still fucked and wrong) But now they shoot to kill when a young man runs away from them! What the fuck? They gettin that scared? Now tell me would this have a different ending if the people running away were white?!
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It used to be that's cops usually shot to kill when someone runs at them even with no weapon! (Which is still fucked and wrong) But now they shoot to kill when a young man runs away from them! What the fuck? They gettin that scared? Now tell me would this have a different ending if the people running away were white?!
used to be there weren't videos of the cops committing murder.
they could say whatever the fuck.
would the result be different w/ white victim?
fuck no, cops are rarely prosecuted and damn near NEVER found guilty.
pound for pound, they kill more whites than blacks, it's just that whites are like 68% of america vs blacks 13%.
ya'll obfuscate the issue by focusing on color and not cops killing citizens w/ impunity.
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you have better odds of winning lottery or getting hit by lightening that getting shot by police. you just want to make argument that you want to do whatever you want and blame police when you get caught
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there are good cops and bad cops.
when it comes to bad cops there are white police officers that def have bias against black people. there have been police officers exposed many times for being white supremacist, linked to white supremacist hate groups, personal social media accounts exposed for saying fucked up shit about black people, etc.
then there are just trigger happy cops who join the police force with dreams of being able to kill someone (of any race) legally.
that cop who shot daniel shaver was def one of those guys who couldn't wait to shoot someone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBUUx0jUKxc
when you're a cop who has "you're fucked" on your gun you def masturbate at the thought of killing someone.
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there are good cops and bad cops.
when it comes to bad cops there are white police officers that def have bias against black people. there have been police officers exposed many times for being white supremacist, linked to white supremacist hate groups, personal social media accounts exposed for saying fucked up shit about black people, etc.
then there are just trigger happy cops who join the police force with dreams of being able to kill someone (of any race) legally.
that cop who shot daniel shaver was def one of those guys who couldn't wait to shoot someone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBUUx0jUKxc
when you're a cop who has "you're fucked" on your gun you def masturbate at the thought of killing someone.
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is this race issue or police issue?
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you using police as reason to hate all white people
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It used to be that's cops usually shot to kill when someone runs at them even with no weapon! (Which is still fucked and wrong) But now they shoot to kill when a young man runs away from them! What the fuck? They gettin that scared? Now tell me would this have a different ending if the people running away were white?!
they could say whatever the fuck.
would the result be different w/ white victim?
fuck no, cops are rarely prosecuted and damn near NEVER found guilty.
pound for pound, they kill more whites than blacks, it's just that whites are like 68% of america vs blacks 13%.
ya'll obfuscate the issue by focusing on color and not cops killing citizens w/ impunity.
A black persons interaction with a cop is far more likely to get them killed than a white persons. Obviously I’m against cops killing anyone with impunity regardless of race, but taking into account the demographics that you just posted cops DO kill black people and get away with it at a much higher rate than white people.
Cops do stop, harass, arrest and kill black people more, we’re not making it up.
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is this race issue or police issue?
Both, and it takes an incredible ignorance of
American history to not see that.
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you're loosing the plot vhs. it's not black/white it's cops killing people and getting away w/ it.
they don't kill ya'll more, as the chart says they kill more whites. we just got more men to loose so no biggie.
but i digress, i wish it were 'poor people matter' or something because we're split by that 'we get killed more' 'no we get killed more' etc.
cops killing anyone is bad. can we all get behind that? cause if it's a pan-american problem [which it is] then we can have bipartisan solutions.
if it's a black problem, liberals got your back [way back].
if it's a poor white problem, conservatives will talk like they got your back but sell you out same as the liberals do the blacks.
this is just skate message board but maybe it starts w/ us. oh you're getting fucked by a 9 inch dick? we've been getting fucked w/ an 6 inch dick. but instead of comparing who's asshole is more stretched, let's unite against them boys slinging dick.
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You really trying to make oppression a competition? White folk can't let them have anything
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you're loosing the plot vhs. it's not black/white it's cops killing people and getting away w/ it.
they don't kill ya'll more, as the chart says they kill more whites. we just got more men to loose so no biggie.
but i digress, i wish it were 'poor people matter' or something because we're split by that 'we get killed more' 'no we get killed more' etc.
cops killing anyone is bad. can we all get behind that? cause if it's a pan-american problem [which it is] then we can have bipartisan solutions.
if it's a black problem, liberals got your back [way back].
if it's a poor white problem, conservatives will talk like they got your back but sell you out same as the liberals do the blacks.
this is just skate message board but maybe it starts w/ us. oh you're getting fucked by a 9 inch dick? we've been getting fucked w/ an 6 inch dick. but instead of comparing who's asshole is more stretched, let's unite against them boys slinging dick.
No its true they target blacks and black neighborhoods way different that whites. Every city is different too. Around here in jail theres bout a 10 to 2 black/every other race ratio. Plus I've seen enough court antics to know that's shits is actually racist as hell.
Its a police plus race issue but ya kinda gotta focus on one at a time or shit starts gettin blurry. I think police reform would be easier to do than fix all racism in the world. Plus it would help racism a bit.
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If Bootawd making more sense you, you know you should reevaluate your views
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You really trying to make oppression a competition? White folk can't let them have anything
if you haven't noticed, blacks haven't been real wicked successful in getting the cops to stop shooting them and the whites who are at risk of it aren't represented by the whites who chant and march w/ the black victims.
it's the same principle of unions. collective bargaining works for our collective good. or keep being isolated and shit don't get better.
to bawtawd, you think all those blacks are innocent?
black neighborhoods may [don't wanna generalize] lack infrastructure or education or jobs which encourages crime but at some point people gotta admit their shit.
i've been in tons of black jails but also tiny rural white jails and the same 'yo, these racist as cracker cops' or 'it's open season on the white man out here w/ these pigs'.
i've been around enough, it's the same shit but it don't get better because people won't admit the other poor people are like them.
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Da power of friendship only goes so far bud you got blue lives matter nikkas openly saying black people lives don't matter and labeling them as hate groups because they don't want to get gunned down by piggys on some gaslighting shit got you thinking you hol perspective on life and Mrs Morris the 8th grade music teacher who hi key was racist to the school janitor Mr. Jones (black man) but you let it slide cuz she had bongos and would make fire beats :'(
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You really trying to make oppression a competition? White folk can't let them have anything
it's the same principle of unions. collective bargaining works for our collective good. or keep being isolated and shit don't get better.
to bawtawd, you think all those blacks are innocent?
black neighborhoods may [don't wanna generalize] lack infrastructure or education or jobs which encourages crime but at some point people gotta admit their shit.
i've been in tons of black jails but also tiny rural white jails and the same 'yo, these racist as cracker cops' or 'it's open season on the white man out here w/ these pigs'.
i've been around enough, it's the same shit but it don't get better because people won't admit the other poor people are like them.
No one in jail is innocent. But what I've seen is all races commit the same amount of crime. It basically just unfair that theres a 10/2 ratio but the opposite in the population. You can say blacks commit more crime but it doesn't equate to that extreme of a ratio. What your sayin ain't untrue bit its deeper than that.
What I seen its more of protect white areas from crime and stomp out crime in the black areas.
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you're loosing the plot vhs. it's not black/white it's cops killing people and getting away w/ it.
they don't kill ya'll more, as the chart says they kill more whites. we just got more men to loose so no biggie.
but i digress, i wish it were 'poor people matter' or something because we're split by that 'we get killed more' 'no we get killed more' etc.
cops killing anyone is bad. can we all get behind that? cause if it's a pan-american problem [which it is] then we can have bipartisan solutions.
if it's a black problem, liberals got your back [way back].
if it's a poor white problem, conservatives will talk like they got your back but sell you out same as the liberals do the blacks.
this is just skate message board but maybe it starts w/ us. oh you're getting fucked by a 9 inch dick? we've been getting fucked w/ an 6 inch dick. but instead of comparing who's asshole is more stretched, let's unite against them boys slinging dick.
Yes big picture we’re on the same side of this issue. Anyone with morals should be united against killer cops, regardless of who’s getting killed. Having a suffering contest is not the point but I see racism in America clearly and white people denying it’s happening is annoying. You’re struggling to understand those statistics tbh. Black people are more likely to die at the hands of police is what they show. This shouldn’t be hard to believe if you know like, any history.
“According to the most recent census data, there are nearly 160 million more white people in America than there are black people. White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.”
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You really trying to make oppression a competition? White folk can't let them have anything
it's the same principle of unions. collective bargaining works for our collective good. or keep being isolated and shit don't get better.
to bawtawd, you think all those blacks are innocent?
black neighborhoods may [don't wanna generalize] lack infrastructure or education or jobs which encourages crime but at some point people gotta admit their shit.
i've been in tons of black jails but also tiny rural white jails and the same 'yo, these racist as cracker cops' or 'it's open season on the white man out here w/ these pigs'.
i've been around enough, it's the same shit but it don't get better because people won't admit the other poor people are like them.
What I seen its more of protect white areas from crime and stomp out crime in the black areas.
Innocent til proven guilty watch some SVU sucka ass
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You really trying to make oppression a competition? White folk can't let them have anything
it's the same principle of unions. collective bargaining works for our collective good. or keep being isolated and shit don't get better.
to bawtawd, you think all those blacks are innocent?
black neighborhoods may [don't wanna generalize] lack infrastructure or education or jobs which encourages crime but at some point people gotta admit their shit.
i've been in tons of black jails but also tiny rural white jails and the same 'yo, these racist as cracker cops' or 'it's open season on the white man out here w/ these pigs'.
i've been around enough, it's the same shit but it don't get better because people won't admit the other poor people are like them.
What I seen its more of protect white areas from crime and stomp out crime in the black areas.
You can beat the charges but yo ass ain't innocent boi.
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You sound dumber than a box of rocks son IDK what buttfuck town you live in but the world is alot bigger than getting picked up for shop lifting a bottle of shnops and getting bailed out by your mom
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You sound dumber than a box of rocks son IDK what buttfuck town you live in but the world is alot bigger than getting picked up for shop lifting a bottle of shnops and getting bailed out by your mom
Nah my grandma bailed me out that time.
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You really trying to make oppression a competition? White folk can't let them have anything
it's the same principle of unions. collective bargaining works for our collective good. or keep being isolated and shit don't get better.
to bawtawd, you think all those blacks are innocent?
black neighborhoods may [don't wanna generalize] lack infrastructure or education or jobs which encourages crime but at some point people gotta admit their shit.
i've been in tons of black jails but also tiny rural white jails and the same 'yo, these racist as cracker cops' or 'it's open season on the white man out here w/ these pigs'.
i've been around enough, it's the same shit but it don't get better because people won't admit the other poor people are like them.
What I seen its more of protect white areas from crime and stomp out crime in the black areas.
It's definitely "guilty and good luck proving your innocence" where I live.
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you have better odds of winning lottery or getting hit by lightening that getting shot by police. you just want to make argument that you want to do whatever you want and blame police when you get caught
how's that boot taste?
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Sure, both the kid who ran and the cop are blameworthy for this incident. and sure, it wouldnt have happened but for this young man very likely engaging in misconduct. But who has the higher duty, the badge, and who swore an oath?This cop should be punished harshly and swiftly for his criminal conduct in a criminal proceeding (not just an administrative one) but all the back the blue idiots will just wring their hands and talk about how the boy is to blame. fuck that. if you are a cop i expect your training and instincts to be impeccable. sadly they are often the opposite. Fuck the police. there are very few worth a shit, and when they circle the wagons instead of holding themselves accountable to a higher standard, its obvious they place themselves above the law and the community.
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is the USA really the only first world/developed nation where armed officers have been murdering unarmed civilians as a repeated pattern?
Im sure cops get away with murder in third world nations in central and South America but I've never heard of this happening in other nations. I also know in a lot of other first world/developed nations officers don't normally carry fire arms.
What ever the causation is this is sickening and needs to stop.. and really only seems to keep occurring in the USA
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You really trying to make oppression a competition? White folk can't let them have anything
it's the same principle of unions. collective bargaining works for our collective good. or keep being isolated and shit don't get better.
to bawtawd, you think all those blacks are innocent?
black neighborhoods may [don't wanna generalize] lack infrastructure or education or jobs which encourages crime but at some point people gotta admit their shit.
i've been in tons of black jails but also tiny rural white jails and the same 'yo, these racist as cracker cops' or 'it's open season on the white man out here w/ these pigs'.
i've been around enough, it's the same shit but it don't get better because people won't admit the other poor people are like them.
What I seen its more of protect white areas from crime and stomp out crime in the black areas.
you seriously think the justice system is 100% accurate with prosecutions?
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i think it's like 80% or something are guilty. i read 89% a long time ago but that was before dna was exonerating folks.
i did a month for an armed robbery i didn't do [no bail, scary!]
and i had a friend catch 4 yrs for a home invasion he wasn't part of [i was].
he's white too, btw. if the cops/DA don't like you they're gonna make your life rip ass hell.
we all know the story of steven avery too.
free him and that person cousin so he can watch damn wrestlemania.
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If 20% are innocent that’s a fucking TON of people considering we imprison more people than anyone else in the world
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is this race issue or police issue?
Both, and it takes an incredible ignorance of
American history to not see that.
so you say that you hate both police and white people?
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is this race issue or police issue?
Both, and it takes an incredible ignorance of
American history to not see that.
so you say that you hate both police and white people?
You signed up to slap to defend Jason Jesse didn’t you
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People need to email, call PA legislators or whoever if they wanna change shit. Its a bad law. By this law the cop did nothing wrong from what I can tell. He basically used the law to kill that kid in the back.
PA law - he is justified in using deadly force only when he believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or serious bodily injury to himself or such other person, or when he believes both that:
(i) such force is necessary to prevent the arrest from being defeated by resistance or escape; and
(ii) the person to be arrested has committed or attempted a forcible felony or is attempting to escape and possesses a deadly weapon, or otherwise indicates that he will endanger human life or inflict serious bodily injury unless arrested without delay.
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This just passed the State Assembly in California. Cops are pissed.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-law-reform/reforming-police-practices/california-can-reduce-number-police-shootings
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is this race issue or police issue?
Both, and it takes an incredible ignorance of
American history to not see that.
so you say that you hate both police and white people?
You signed up to slap to defend Jason Jesse didn’t you
jason jessee is a bad person
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This just passed the State Assembly in California. Cops are pissed.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-law-reform/reforming-police-practices/california-can-reduce-number-police-shootings
The comments on that article are so grim. People are basically saying that disarming cops would drive up the crime rate and people who are killed by cops deserve it for being non-compliant.
By all reports, racism is prevalent among cops, which makes it a racial issue. But at the heart of it, I think the biggest issue is the bloodthirsty police culture, and the cover ups and bail outs. Racial prejudice among law enforcement is definitely fucked, but the fact that cops seem to think murder is justified, and that the police force seems to attract sociopaths, is fucking scary and wrong.
In new zealand, cops don't have guns, never have as far as i know (though the armed offender squad does, but they are called in for specific crimes and don't patrol the streets). And by the sounds of it the crime rate here is much lower than in america. There is also less generalized hatred of cops, and most cop-civillian interaction is fairly civilized (obviously there are exceptions, some cops are cunts but many are quite friendly and seem to just want to get on with their day without incident). Probably something to do with the fact that they don't kill 160 people per year.
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If 20% are innocent that’s a fucking TON of people considering we imprison more people than anyone else in the world
no shit. they gotta fill all the wackenhut and CCA corporate prisons as well as the state institutions. it's sad but part of a post industrial society is a lot of unnecessary adults and if you can pay some of them to warehouse others, that figures out a piece of the problem.
have a bunch of wars of conquest overseas and that takes care of some more who aren't able to make the leap to tech or able to live of service industry.
i don't mean to undermine what it's like for black guys, obviously it hits a disproportionate number of black males.
but if all blacks in america disappeared tomorrow, 3/4 police killings would still happen.
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If 20% are innocent that’s a fucking TON of people considering we imprison more people than anyone else in the world
have a bunch of wars of conquest overseas and that takes care of some more who aren't able to make the leap to tech or able to live of service industry.
i don't mean to undermine what it's like for black guys, obviously it hits a disproportionate number of black males.
but if all blacks in america disappeared tomorrow, 3/4 police killings would still happen.
bro you have the weirdest takes
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is the USA really the only first world/developed nation where armed officers have been murdering unarmed civilians as a repeated pattern?
Im sure cops get away with murder in third world nations in central and South America but I've never heard of this happening in other nations. I also know in a lot of other first world/developed nations officers don't normally carry fire arms.
What ever the causation is this is sickening and needs to stop.. and really only seems to keep occurring in the USA
I think that's true, yes.
From what I've seen, cops are armed pretty much everywhere in Europe though. UK is the exception, not the rule.
IMO the main difference is the gun culture in the US. Having so many guns around probably makes the cops more nervous and trigger-happy. Plus you have the race issue but that's an issue everywhere, not just in the US.
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This just passed the State Assembly in California. Cops are pissed.
https://www.aclu.org/blog/criminal-law-reform/reforming-police-practices/california-can-reduce-number-police-shootings
The comments on that article are so grim. People are basically saying that disarming cops would drive up the crime rate and people who are killed by cops deserve it for being non-compliant.
By all reports, racism is prevalent among cops, which makes it a racial issue. But at the heart of it, I think the biggest issue is the bloodthirsty police culture, and the cover ups and bail outs. Racial prejudice among law enforcement is definitely fucked, but the fact that cops seem to think murder is justified, and that the police force seems to attract sociopaths, is fucking scary and wrong.
In new zealand, cops don't have guns, never have as far as i know (though the armed offender squad does, but they are called in for specific crimes and don't patrol the streets). And by the sounds of it the crime rate here is much lower than in america. There is also less generalized hatred of cops, and most cop-civillian interaction is fairly civilized (obviously there are exceptions, some cops are cunts but many are quite friendly and seem to just want to get on with their day without incident). Probably something to do with the fact that they don't kill 160 people per year.
In the states, police culture is this warrior mentality, and it's completely "us vs. them." The realities of their job are completely different than what they want it to be though. They see themselves as crime fighting superheros rather than humble public servants. To become a cop you should have to have a college degree. A full 4 year degree, not an AA, or 32 units. No more of this Pvt. Pile, straight out of a 2 year stint in the Marine Corp, small town bullshit. We need people who can think critically, and understand the role of police in society.
Fuck, I hate cops.
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to sad hippo, agreed but instead we got a system that refuses would be cops on the grounds their IQ is too high.
or that they'll be critical thinkers.
basically our system is ass backwards to what it should be and the bourgie like it that way.
to whoever said i got a weird take on things, i wish i were that original. i was doing a month at 850 bryant in 2002 and there was a class on recidivism by some activist women and they said we were falling into the trap, making job security for shitty classist, racist, underskilled people who just hadn't fucked up yet [inmates and COs are the same except one has a record]. there's more americans than jobs and if the NWO is mass incarceration, don't fall for it. don't be a number.
they laid it out and if you wanna know more on the subject, fuck w/ 'jail, hospitals and hiphop' by danny hoche.
or, you know just call people w/ alternative perspectives racist and pat yourself on the back that you've contributed in some way to bettering the world.
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to sad hippo, agreed but instead we got a system that refuses would be cops on the grounds their IQ is too high.
or that they'll be critical thinkers.
basically our system is ass backwards to what it should be and the bourgie like it that way.
is that a real thing?
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you're damn right! [shaft]
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-court-ruled-you-can-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/5420630
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you're damn right! [shaft]
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-court-ruled-you-can-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/5420630
so fucked, im from ct too so this is even better.
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Cannot believe what I heard on that tape. Clearly the entire community was watching, a mixed community, and having an outspoken racist scream that after a murder is so fucked up. did the cop scream got that cocksocker?
digital media has both revealed the truth in society, and created a platform to make it worse.
there will be a revolution that will burn a lot of shit down if Trump remains in office. cities will burn and sheltered whites will sit back and mumble "see, i told you they would".
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Of all the legit sources on how the police are fucked, sniff links to an anti-Semitic conspiracy website. Go figure.
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to sad hippo, agreed but instead we got a system that refuses would be cops on the grounds their IQ is too high.
or that they'll be critical thinkers.
basically our system is ass backwards to what it should be and the bourgie like it that way.
to whoever said i got a weird take on things, i wish i were that original. i was doing a month at 850 bryant in 2002 and there was a class on recidivism by some activist women and they said we were falling into the trap, making job security for shitty classist, racist, underskilled people who just hadn't fucked up yet [inmates and COs are the same except one has a record]. there's more americans than jobs and if the NWO is mass incarceration, don't fall for it. don't be a number.
they laid it out and if you wanna know more on the subject, fuck w/ 'jail, hospitals and hiphop' by danny hoche.
or, you know just call people w/ alternative perspectives racist and pat yourself on the back that you've contributed in some way to bettering the world.
There are loads of industrialized countries but we're the only one with such a rediculous amount of people locked up. You just have a weird cynical centrism that I haven't encountered before.
And yea bro, someone whose alternative perspective involves hating black people, putting swastikas on everything, and starting a white power band is probably gonna get labeled as a racist and that's probably a good thing.
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Of all the legit sources on how the police are fucked, sniff links to an anti-Semitic conspiracy website. Go figure.
fuck your momma cause it was the 2nd listing on google and more current than the first [though both were about the 2000 case in CT].
google 'cop fire high IQ' and see what you get. i was hoping for a more modern case but didn't feel like digging.
to eraserhead, i meant calling me that. you're prolly really young and your world fits into neat boxes of good/bad. that simple worldview is similar to how christian right views the world. and [cough cough] lots of police. ya'll just disagree on who's the good/bad.
some people are nonbinary [no left/right paradigm].
it's not centrist, it's not anything. hopefully it's free thinking but my experiences are gonna color things subjectively just like anyone's.
[edit] here's the top several from google in descending order.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
2 the one i linked by 'global research' sounds real anti jew
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-court-ruled-you-can-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/5420630
here's another but it's from 99, didn't want to seem dated
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/09/nyregion/metro-news-briefs-connecticut-judge-rules-that-police-can-bar-high-iq-scores.html
number 4 cause alan's mother's a whore
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-in-the-U-S-people-can-be-rejected-from-joining-the-police-force-if-they-are-too-intelligent
5 huffpost
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/arthur-rizer/the-militarized-mentality_b_7462878.html
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there will be a revolution that will burn a lot of shit down if Trump remains in office. cities will burn and sheltered whites will sit back and mumble "see, i told you they would".
This isnt a trump issue. it shouldnt be a dem/repub issue. Cops are murdering people regardless of the administration in charge and we need to do something about it, something meaningful other than whining about the president. ACAB.
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i dont understand, how is trump to blame for this? he is not police
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i dont understand, how is trump to blame for this? he is not police
He certainly didn’t start it, but having a blatant racist “blue lives matter” asshat in the White House certainly ain’t helping. Obama and Holder were doing at least a little to force some investigation and reform of corrupt police forces and working on prison reform. That shit came to screeching halt/reverse under Trump and Sessions.
https://youtu.be/9nl00N6I5Ak
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i dont understand, how is trump to blame for this? he is not police
He certainly didn’t start it, but having a blatant racist “blue lives matter” asshat in the White House certainly ain’t helping. Obama and Holder were doing at least a little to force some investigation and reform of corrupt police forces and working on prison reform. That shit came to screeching halt/reverse under Trump and Sessions.
https://youtu.be/9nl00N6I5Ak
oh goodness gracious, you simple minded shit!
what did obama do?
did he help avenge freddy grey?
michael brown?
that white schizo who got beat into a coma while calling for his dad?
that other white schizo who got shot in albequerque after a standoff for urban camping?
anyone?
i'm wasting my time but here's how the game works. the red team talk respectfully to the white population, middle of the country folks that city people look down on. jesus believers and hard workers. make em lots of promises they don't keep but they don't belittle them. brand loyalty.
the blue team does the same to all the urban weirdos, people who don't like their genitals, minorities and any others. they think as little of you all as the rich red team thinks of the rural whites but they need to keep this artificial divide to keep the game going.
if you didn't have a red sox/yankees to root for, to attach yourself to you'd have to look at your situation objectively.
they don't even have to adhere to their own party super hard, 50% of people will vote just on color.
maybe we deserve everything we get. maybe the cops shoot us cause we're all fucking that dumb?
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You're a babbling idiot
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You're a babbling idiot
thank you for your edifying contribution.
i did get a little longwinded for a moment.
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i dont understand, how is trump to blame for this? he is not police
He certainly didn’t start it, but having a blatant racist “blue lives matter” asshat in the White House certainly ain’t helping. Obama and Holder were doing at least a little to force some investigation and reform of corrupt police forces and working on prison reform. That shit came to screeching halt/reverse under Trump and Sessions.
https://youtu.be/9nl00N6I5Ak
what did obama do?
did he help avenge freddy grey?
michael brown?
that white schizo who got beat into a coma while calling for his dad?
that other white schizo who got shot in albequerque after a standoff for urban camping?
anyone?
i'm wasting my time but here's how the game works. the red team talk respectfully to the white population, middle of the country folks that city people look down on. jesus believers and hard workers. make em lots of promises they don't keep but they don't belittle them. brand loyalty.
the blue team does the same to all the urban weirdos, people who don't like their genitals, minorities and any others. they think as little of you all as the rich red team thinks of the rural whites but they need to keep this artificial divide to keep the game going.
if you didn't have a red sox/yankees to root for, to attach yourself to you'd have to look at your situation objectively.
they don't even have to adhere to their own party super hard, 50% of people will vote just on color.
maybe we deserve everything we get. maybe the cops shoot us cause we're all fucking that dumb?
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Cool man you brought out the thesaurus after incoherent excuse for a post. Obama at least spoke about racial tension between law enforcement and citizens during his terms, what has Trump done? He called NFL players "sons of bitches" for protesting against Police murdering innocent black people and twisted it as them being unpatriotic because they didn't stand for the anthem.
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i dont understand, how is trump to blame for this? he is not police
He certainly didn’t start it, but having a blatant racist “blue lives matter” asshat in the White House certainly ain’t helping. Obama and Holder were doing at least a little to force some investigation and reform of corrupt police forces and working on prison reform. That shit came to screeching halt/reverse under Trump and Sessions.
https://youtu.be/9nl00N6I5Ak
do police lives dont matter? in my country we hear about police in your country being abushed and shot in cold blood
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Cool man you brought out the thesaurus after incoherent excuse for a post. Obama at least spoke about racial tension between law enforcement and citizens during his terms, what has Trump done? He called NFL players "sons of bitches" for protesting against Police murdering innocent black people and twisted it as them being unpatriotic because they didn't stand for the anthem.
see, you mistake obama addressing it as helping. trump is saying what all the presidents were thinking [or what their actions proved].
if you have 2 bullies and one beats you and calls you nice names and the other beats you and calls you son of bitch, is one better than the other?
i went full reagan in that post but you people are really fucking lacking if you mistake 'addressing verbally' as 'addressing' meaning changing policy.
all presidents bomb arab countries, all presidents look condescendingly on the poor and they all uphold the status quo.
'oh but the president i like is sorry'.
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I'd say addressing does more than twisting it around and victim blaming but you seem to have your sights set on bashing anything that doesn't fit into your "us whites have it just as bad" ideology so what more can I say.
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I'd say addressing does more than twisting it around and victim blaming but you seem to have your sights set on bashing anything that doesn't fit into your "us whites have it just as bad" ideology so what more can I say.
no dipshit, i'd like to see real change. i won't be placated because obama shouted us out.
that's hollow, no wonder we don't see real change, people are happy to have it addressed.
idk if whites have it 'as bad' but everyone has it bad and comparing scars ain't really progressive now is it?
like yo, sick burn but how does that get you closer to justice?
i don't think most of ya want change, i think it feels vindicating to go 'see the cops are killing us' this confirms my worldview.
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do police lives dont matter? in my country we hear about police in your country being abushed and shot in cold blood
I call bullshit. Trolling.
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Obama Holder Justice dept investigated and published damning reports on abuse and bias in Ferguson and Baltimore PD and were racing to finish their Chicago PD report before Trump was sworn in. Not saying he was all in but it was more than just “addressing it”
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Deez threads really bring the racist turds to the top of the bowl
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Obama Holder Justice dept investigated and published damning reports on abuse and bias in Ferguson and Baltimore PD and were racing to finish their Chicago PD report before Trump was sworn in. Not saying he was all in but it was more than just “addressing it”
nothing came of it though. it's lip service.
but i just thought of soemthing. as much as i believe what i believe and you believe what you believe, neither is objectively right.
on a visceral level i'm sure i'm correct but like, does that invalidate what you think? or a pro cop person? it's all just opinion.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56HUZZkpNeo
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Not surprised Suciu is woke to some extent (https://preview.ibb.co/dhfM9o/90535_FA2_7_F97_4_CF2_B2_B5_ED701236486_D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/i6kopo)
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The officer has been charged with criminal homicide.
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The officer has been charged with criminal homicide.
deffinition (cause i wasnt sure of it myself)
Criminal homicide may be classified as murder, manslaughter, or criminally negligent homicide. A person commits criminal homicide if he intentionally, knowingly, recklessly or with criminal negligence causes the death of another person. Homicides that are neither justifiable nor excusable are considered crimes.
Non-criminal homicides include killing in self-defense, an accidental death like a hunting accident or automobile collision without a violation of law like reckless driving, or carrying out a sentence of execution. An execution is an example of a justifiable homicide, which is an intentional killing done in accordance with legal obligation, or in circumstances where the law recognizes no wrong. Justifiable homicide may also include killings necessary to prevent a felony or to arrest a suspected felon, and killings in self-defense. In some states of the United States, one may lawfully kill in resisting the unlawful invasion of a home or real property.
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They won’t convict him. He won’t see jail or real consequences
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Oh wow would you look at that
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Obama Holder Justice dept investigated and published damning reports on abuse and bias in Ferguson and Baltimore PD and were racing to finish their Chicago PD report before Trump was sworn in. Not saying he was all in but it was more than just “addressing it”
but i just thought of soemthing. as much as i believe what i believe and you believe what you believe, neither is objectively right.
on a visceral level i'm sure i'm correct but like, does that invalidate what you think? or a pro cop person? it's all just opinion.
The more i read your takes dude the more i like you
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Obama Holder Justice dept investigated and published damning reports on abuse and bias in Ferguson and Baltimore PD and were racing to finish their Chicago PD report before Trump was sworn in. Not saying he was all in but it was more than just “addressing it”
but i just thought of soemthing. as much as i believe what i believe and you believe what you believe, neither is objectively right.
on a visceral level i'm sure i'm correct but like, does that invalidate what you think? or a pro cop person? it's all just opinion.
The more i read your takes dude the more i like you
thanks my dude! i respect the struggle, i spent a good portion of my life on the streets. it was a blast for a while but then you're just stagnating and it's not wicked easy to get out of.
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Obama Holder Justice dept investigated and published damning reports on abuse and bias in Ferguson and Baltimore PD and were racing to finish their Chicago PD report before Trump was sworn in. Not saying he was all in but it was more than just “addressing it”
but i just thought of soemthing. as much as i believe what i believe and you believe what you believe, neither is objectively right.
on a visceral level i'm sure i'm correct but like, does that invalidate what you think? or a pro cop person? it's all just opinion.
The more i read your takes dude the more i like you
Concrete dont ever get any softer. It can be fun if youre travelling, but i also like to stay in cities and house up when i can. It is nice to be able to have more than one skateboard
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I hope there is justice for this young man.
These pigs need to start seeing consequences for there actions as the rest of us do. Thank god someone filmed this or there would be nothing.
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how about you all stop beating your dicks and lets talk about the facts
the cop who shot antwon is now charged with criminal homicide
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/06/27/east-pittsburgh-police-officer-who-shot-and-killed-antwon-rose-charged-with-criminal-homicide/
also the other teenager who ran away (and almost entirely got away) is named as the shooter of the original drive by. antwon was simply a kid who was on the scene.
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how you know he "simply a kid who was on the scene"? why he run then? there has been no trial, you dont know the fact yet, you are simply making allegation.
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“Taking a human life is one of the most important issues in this community, dealing with those types of tragedies,” Zappala told reporters. “You do not shoot somebody in the back if they are not a threat to you.”
Under Pennsylvania law, a criminal homicide charge can encompass first-, second- and third-degree homicide. Zappala said he believed the evidence supported the most serious charge — which carries with it a life sentence — but that ultimately it would be up to a jury.
“We think we should have the right to argue murder in the first degree,” he said. “It’s an intentional act and there is no justification for it."
This is the DA in charge of prosecuting the case? Calling for first degree and life? Thankfully this Keystone Cop forgot the first rule of "I feared for my life. He was turning for me. I saw what I thought was a weapon" his conflicting reports will hopefully force him to plea quickly to a lesser degree with the possibility of parole. His time will be torture. Stuck in PC solitary forever, for his own protection.
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“Taking a human life is one of the most important issues in this community, dealing with those types of tragedies,” Zappala told reporters. “You do not shoot somebody in the back if they are not a threat to you.”
Under Pennsylvania law, a criminal homicide charge can encompass first-, second- and third-degree homicide. Zappala said he believed the evidence supported the most serious charge — which carries with it a life sentence — but that ultimately it would be up to a jury.
“We think we should have the right to argue murder in the first degree,” he said. “It’s an intentional act and there is no justification for it."
This is the DA in charge of prosecuting the case? Calling for first degree and life? Thankfully this Keystone Cop forgot the first rule of "I feared for my life. He was turning for me. I saw what I thought was a weapon" his conflicting reports will hopefully force him to plea quickly to a lesser degree with the possibility of parole. His time will be torture. Stuck in PC solitary forever, for his own protection.
NPR points out that detail in this article: https://www.npr.org/2018/06/27/623797909/east-pittsburgh-police-officer-charged-with-homicide-in-shooting-of-antwon-rose
Police said the Chevrolet Cruze was pulled over because it matched the description of a vehicle involved in a drive-by shooting minutes earlier in nearby North Braddock Borough that left a 22-year-old with a "grazing" wound.
Zappala said a 9 mm weapon as well as a .40-caliber — used in the earlier shooting — was retrieved from under the front seat of the car Rose was riding in. Both weapons were stolen.
And yet, according to Zappala, Rosfeld was never at risk from a weapon.
"He specifically says that he didn't see a weapon," Zappala said. "That's significant."
I guess that's all it takes to elude a homicide charge. Say Skittles looked like a gun and you're in the clear.
Hopefully this establishes a precedent of cops facing charges.
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Can I just say this dude looks like every community college motherfucker that wants to be a cop.
(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/06/27/ap_18178508299637_custom-41e92fd956f52b7114c874eafaf228c2fab8225e-s600-c85.jpg)
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Can I just say this dude looks like every community college motherfucker that wants to be a cop.
(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/06/27/ap_18178508299637_custom-41e92fd956f52b7114c874eafaf228c2fab8225e-s600-c85.jpg)
you can say he look like community college motherfucker that want to be cop if you want. you can say whatever you want. do you think he bisexual?
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Can I just say this dude looks like every community college motherfucker that wants to be a cop.
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you can say he look like community college motherfucker that want to be cop if you want. you can say whatever you want. do you think he bisexual?
Shut the fuck up, snowflake.
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(http://68.media.tumblr.com/2a216d88955861512972de8255e2a8fa/tumblr_nj6qm09vED1ryw9fko3_500.gif)
Im guessing this means he legalized ranch
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im confused. do police only shoot black people in your country? not latinos or asians?
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Obama Holder Justice dept investigated and published damning reports on abuse and bias in Ferguson and Baltimore PD and were racing to finish their Chicago PD report before Trump was sworn in. Not saying he was all in but it was more than just “addressing it”
but i just thought of soemthing. as much as i believe what i believe and you believe what you believe, neither is objectively right.
on a visceral level i'm sure i'm correct but like, does that invalidate what you think? or a pro cop person? it's all just opinion.
Baltimore entered into a consent decree with the DOJ because of the DOJ report (https://consentdecree.baltimorecity.gov/). It isn't everything it needs to be, but hopefully acts as a start. Hopefully, it moves things in the right direction. Broken windows, zero tolerance policing, the war on drugs fucked a lot of things up and it is going to take a lot of work on the police's side to regain the (black) public's trust. Especially, when we consider how often this form of policing affected and continues to affect black lives (https://www.theroot.com/high-school-antwon-rose-attended-faces-brutal-allegatio-1827207545), not to mention the problems that black communities have been burdened with because of redlining, Jim Crowe, etc., especially in places like Baltimore.
Also, just to a few other comments in the thread (some of the posters are obviously just trying to provoke a reaction and I don't want to directly respond to them)
The odds of winning Powerball are 1 in 292 million.
However, the odds that a black man will be shot by the police in any given year in the US = 1 in 60,000
and the odds the that a white man will be shot by the police in any given year in the US = 1 in 200,000.
The police kill three people each day in the US (https://www.c-span.org/video/?325595-6/washington-journal-peter-moskos-police-shootings-us).
Second, here is a good source on policing in America: http://www.copinthehood.com . The blog is run by an associate professor at John Jay (arguably the best criminal justice program in the country). There are tons of books, academic articles, etc., but this is probably a good place to start for most of us.
Third, it can be argued (and convincingly) that the rightful outrage over the killings of black men helps reduce police brutality, because it seems many non-black people automatically give the police the benefit of the doubt and assume the person who they shot must be evil, bad, or deserved it. Quoting our professor here, "I think most white people simply don't care when police kill people. Period. Or, to be more slightly more nuanced: whites are more likely to give police the benefit of doubt in questionable shootings and forgive even egregious (criminal) errors. Police are good, they say; sometimes they mess up; it's the price we pay to have police in a violent society. I call it the Al Sharpton Effect. If there's no pushback when police use lethal force, police have no incentive to use lethal force only as a last resort. I think it's incontrovertible that Sharpton -- no matter what one thinks of his methods, moral, and motivations -- is partly responsible for helping make the NYPD the least-shooting large police department in the country. Every shooting in NYC gets analyzed and bad shootings get hammered. That makes for better use of force guidelines and a better police department."
Law enforcement is the only branch of the government that we allow to use physical force on citizens. With this much power, it only makes sense that we should scrutinize their actions and not just assume everything they do is right.
Finally, I can't express enough sympathy for a young skater who got shot in the back because he ran from the police. I can't even count the number of times I ran from the police and never even got a ticket.
https://youtu.be/84JpXmJRU40?t=22m1s
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why police target only black people? what about asians and latinos? i thought your president want to send all latinos back to mexico and build great america wall
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why police target only black people? what about asians and latinos? i thought your president want to send all latinos back to mexico and build great america wall
Ever heard of I.C.E you half wit?
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why police target only black people? what about asians and latinos? i thought your president want to send all latinos back to mexico and build great america wall
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The cop is set to be arraigned in court Wednesday morning.
I would imagine he’s pleading not guilty and will stand a trial. Hopefully with a jury that ISNT his peers- more cops
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Rest In Paradise.