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Title: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: squintharder on December 24, 2018, 07:35:24 PM
with the complete avalanche of new companies entering the skate scene, i feel like there are several companies that I remember being kind of staples and contributed a lot to the skate scene. but now, they're just not what they used to be and just not that relevant anymore or have gone some direction that I just don't understand
companies that immediately come to mind:
almost
plan b
blind
darkstar (do I even need to say it?)
DGK
sk8mafia (I love wes kremer still don't get me wrong)
stereo (yes, yoshi. but other than that? no clue what's keeping up board sales)

ADDITIONS:

girl/chocolate- all the collabs and reissues seem like a cover for a lack of creative ideas.
toy machine, as much as I hate to say it.
creature/santa cruz- idk even know what's going on there.
I would say foundation but idk I feel like since king of the road they've been killing it

what am I missing?
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: colt cannon lunchbox on December 24, 2018, 08:02:58 PM
More importantly, what older board companies are still relevant?

Baker
Foundation (as of late)
Maybe that's it?
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: 123ABC on December 24, 2018, 08:52:08 PM
Is Black Label in this subject? Things are not what they used to be for the team roster and output content. Perhaps there is a core group that support the label but it’s been a while since I saw some one riding them.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Bumpovertrash on December 24, 2018, 08:54:57 PM
More importantly, what older board companies are still relevant?

Baker
Foundation (as of late)
Maybe that's it?
deluxe
and i think thats it
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: CHONGO on December 24, 2018, 09:10:51 PM
sad to say but I feel like Habitat has been..
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: HisDudest on December 24, 2018, 10:46:47 PM
Anyone here ever bought a foundation deck? Lolz brb
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: corto on December 24, 2018, 10:54:53 PM
Crailtap deserves to die away. Enough already.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: whorific on December 24, 2018, 11:42:25 PM
with the complete avalanche of new companies entering the skate scene, i feel like there are several companies that I remember being kind of staples and contributed a lot to the skate scene. but now, they're just not what they used to be and just not that relevant anymore or have gone some direction that I just don't understand
companies that immediately come to mind:
almost
plan b
blind
darkstar (do I even need to say it?)
DGK
sk8mafia (I love wes kremer still don't get me wrong)

now that Daewon and Puddy are doing their thing is Almost even a thing?
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Surf-goth on December 25, 2018, 12:31:38 AM
Anyone here ever bought a foundation deck? Lolz brb

Yes i have bought one. I support companies i love.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Krooked antihero on December 25, 2018, 02:05:33 AM
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Anyone here ever bought a foundation deck? Lolz brb
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Yes i have bought one several. I support companies i love like.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on December 25, 2018, 02:49:29 AM
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Anyone here ever bought a foundation deck? Lolz brb
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Yes i have bought one several. I support companies i love like.
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On a Cole Wilson 8.125 currently.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Ayanami on December 25, 2018, 02:50:52 AM
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Anyone here ever bought a foundation deck? Lolz brb
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Yes i have bought one several. I support companies i love like.
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Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: ziggy on December 25, 2018, 03:48:04 AM
Everybody here hates Santa Cruz and Creature but i back them
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Post by: Bagelskate on December 25, 2018, 04:47:15 AM
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Anyone here ever bought a foundation deck? Lolz brb
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Yes i have bought one several. I support companies i love like.
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On a Cole Wilson 8.125 currently.

Waiting to set up a Duffel 8.25 when my current board gets retired.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: C. R. E. A. M on December 25, 2018, 05:44:32 AM
Chocolate for sure look how many ppl just jumped ship like it's a dead end job
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: shitcunt on December 25, 2018, 06:14:19 AM
Creature is run by racists and their graphics have sucked since day one. Neon green is an ass color.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Ducky Fucky on December 25, 2018, 06:32:22 AM
Girl , DGK, Dark Star, Blind, Almost, Habitat
Chocolate
Black Label
Stereo
Folklore if that's what they call it
Plan B
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Coolhats on December 25, 2018, 06:36:45 AM
Toy Machine has been pretty lackluster for the past few years
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: John Kreese on December 25, 2018, 06:38:33 AM
Your list is biased to the cool guy factor. Plan B, DGK, Skate Mafia, and Almost all have a fan base and they sell a good amount of boards. Kids love it.  I'm sure Blind does but, has been whack for so long. Dudes backing small brands and being too cool for Black Label are fucking hypocrites. Creature wanted to be AH for so long and now they are turning into a weird contest skater thing. By far, Girl/Chocolate is chasing it's own tail looking for an identity in 2018.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: franquietits on December 25, 2018, 06:42:31 AM
Zero? Although, smartly, their style of skating/filming lends itself to longevity, cause they can always re-up their roster with dudes who go for broke. Kinda like foundation.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Tortoise on December 25, 2018, 07:04:02 AM
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Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Krooked antihero on December 25, 2018, 07:41:10 AM
Your list is biased to the cool guy factor. Plan B, DGK, Skate Mafia, and Almost all have a fan base and they sell a good amount of boards. Kids love it.  I'm sure Blind does but, has been whack for so long. Dudes backing small brands and being too cool for Black Label are fucking hypocrites. Creature wanted to be AH for so long and now they are turning into a weird contest skater thing. By far, Girl/Chocolate is chasing it's own tail looking for an identity in 2018.
You sure about it? Never seen one live, nor have hear anyone ever talks about them... rest of those brands for sure but almost.... and kids love youtube pros more than actual companies these days.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: farisskates on December 25, 2018, 08:24:51 AM
 can't forget world industries ahaha
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: farisskates on December 25, 2018, 08:30:52 AM
Speaking of stereo, I got myself one of their boards for Christmas aha
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: C. R. E. A. M on December 25, 2018, 08:53:36 AM
Off the subject but those Primitive dragon ball z boards are so wack.. Just seen all them and those 30$ Blind boards on Zumiez website..Might cop the 30$ Real board they got tho
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: nopes on December 25, 2018, 09:32:40 AM
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Your list is biased to the cool guy factor. Plan B, DGK, Skate Mafia, and Almost all have a fan base and they sell a good amount of boards. Kids love it.  I'm sure Blind does but, has been whack for so long. Dudes backing small brands and being too cool for Black Label are fucking hypocrites. Creature wanted to be AH for so long and now they are turning into a weird contest skater thing. By far, Girl/Chocolate is chasing it's own tail looking for an identity in 2018.
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You sure about it? Never seen one live, nor have hear anyone ever talks about them... rest of those brands for sure but almost.... and kids love youtube pros more than actual companies these days.

i know this sounds weird but judging a brands overall popularity based on what you see in person can be extremely misleading. i travel between the east and west coast frequently enough to see huge variances in what kids are riding. at home in the dc area i dont think ive ever seen a primitive deck and the local shops dont even stock them. i certainly wouldnt say they arent a big brand.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: guest1 on December 25, 2018, 09:37:27 AM
Its very depressing to see what Flip has become over the years since Really Sorry.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Tabletop on December 25, 2018, 09:39:52 AM
Heard when Cliche got the boot that Darkstar was far and away the best selling brand for World/Globe or whoever runs it.

Certain companies might not seem relevant to you but that doesn’t mean there not doing well.

Different models for sales success exist within skateboarding.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: squintharder on December 25, 2018, 09:49:28 AM
Crailtap deserves to die away. Enough already.


yes i'm inclined to agree with you. that video girl put out recently was cool but other than that crailtap is running itself into the ground.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Backheels on December 25, 2018, 10:30:51 AM
with the complete avalanche of new companies entering the skate scene, i feel like there are several companies that I remember being kind of staples and contributed a lot to the skate scene. but now, they're just not what they used to be and just not that relevant anymore or have gone some direction that I just don't understand
companies that immediately come to mind:
almost
plan b
blind
darkstar (do I even need to say it?)
DGK
sk8mafia (I love wes kremer still don't get me wrong)
stereo (yes, yoshi. but other than that? no clue what's keeping up board sales)

ADDITIONS:

girl/chocolate- all the collabs and reissues seem like a cover for a lack of creative ideas.
toy machine, as much as I hate to say it.
creature/santa cruz- idk even know what's going on there. saving grace of the creature team is david gravette
I would say foundation but idk I feel like since king of the road they've been killing it

what am I missing?

Plan b has chris joslin, trevor mcclung, and Felipe ya dumb cunt!!
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: augustmoon on December 25, 2018, 10:37:31 AM
Enjoi
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: calvinsdream on December 25, 2018, 10:48:20 AM
More importantly, what older board companies are still relevant?

Foundation (as of late)

Has anyone seen a foundation deck in the wild in the last five years?
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: whorific on December 25, 2018, 11:00:46 AM
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Your list is biased to the cool guy factor. Plan B, DGK, Skate Mafia, and Almost all have a fan base and they sell a good amount of boards. Kids love it.  I'm sure Blind does but, has been whack for so long. Dudes backing small brands and being too cool for Black Label are fucking hypocrites. Creature wanted to be AH for so long and now they are turning into a weird contest skater thing. By far, Girl/Chocolate is chasing it's own tail looking for an identity in 2018.
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You sure about it? Never seen one live, nor have hear anyone ever talks about them... rest of those brands for sure but almost.... and kids love youtube pros more than actual companies these days.
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i know this sounds weird but judging a brands overall popularity based on what you see in person can be extremely misleading. i travel between the east and west coast frequently enough to see huge variances in what kids are riding. at home in the dc area i dont think ive ever seen a primitive deck and the local shops dont even stock them. i certainly wouldnt say they arent a big brand.


Yeah Same here I went to a park in a small town and every grom there was rocking Supra Sky Tops , Why? cause the local shredder they all looked up to rocked em. I see this everywhere I go trends vary depending on who's emulating Who.  I have seen so many Ben Kadow clones recently I'm starting to wonder if there is an online cult I don't know about.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Tortoise on December 25, 2018, 11:22:29 AM
The year is 2364. Frog will be the only skateboard company.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: slobplant on December 25, 2018, 11:25:35 AM
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with the complete avalanche of new companies entering the skate scene, i feel like there are several companies that I remember being kind of staples and contributed a lot to the skate scene. but now, they're just not what they used to be and just not that relevant anymore or have gone some direction that I just don't understand
companies that immediately come to mind:
almost
plan b
blind
darkstar (do I even need to say it?)
DGK
sk8mafia (I love wes kremer still don't get me wrong)
stereo (yes, yoshi. but other than that? no clue what's keeping up board sales)

ADDITIONS:

girl/chocolate- all the collabs and reissues seem like a cover for a lack of creative ideas.
toy machine, as much as I hate to say it.
creature/santa cruz- idk even know what's going on there. saving grace of the creature team is david gravette
I would say foundation but idk I feel like since king of the road they've been killing it

what am I missing?
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Plan b has chris joslin, trevor mcclung, and Felipe ya dumb cunt!!

Yeah but their graphics are god awful..
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on December 25, 2018, 11:29:29 AM
Conversations of this theme have already been thru the ringer on slap.  All these points have been made repeatedly for 4 years id say.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: johnes on December 25, 2018, 11:38:03 AM
Real and antihero are the first ones that come to mind.
Grant, Ishod, Dennis are all that’s good about them.
I would say BA but I don’t think we are gonna get anything new that’s not a boneless into a trick.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: artskool on December 25, 2018, 12:04:05 PM
I don't think any skateboard company should ever go more than ten years. Maybe five, arguably one.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: calvinsdream on December 25, 2018, 12:05:48 PM
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with the complete avalanche of new companies entering the skate scene, i feel like there are several companies that I remember being kind of staples and contributed a lot to the skate scene. but now, they're just not what they used to be and just not that relevant anymore or have gone some direction that I just don't understand
companies that immediately come to mind:
almost
plan b
blind
darkstar (do I even need to say it?)
DGK
sk8mafia (I love wes kremer still don't get me wrong)
stereo (yes, yoshi. but other than that? no clue what's keeping up board sales)

ADDITIONS:

girl/chocolate- all the collabs and reissues seem like a cover for a lack of creative ideas.
toy machine, as much as I hate to say it.
creature/santa cruz- idk even know what's going on there. saving grace of the creature team is david gravette
I would say foundation but idk I feel like since king of the road they've been killing it

what am I missing?
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Plan b has chris joslin, trevor mcclung, and Felipe ya dumb cunt!!

Clown, worthless, more worthless
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Backheels on December 25, 2018, 12:18:01 PM
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with the complete avalanche of new companies entering the skate scene, i feel like there are several companies that I remember being kind of staples and contributed a lot to the skate scene. but now, they're just not what they used to be and just not that relevant anymore or have gone some direction that I just don't understand
companies that immediately come to mind:
almost
plan b
blind
darkstar (do I even need to say it?)
DGK
sk8mafia (I love wes kremer still don't get me wrong)
stereo (yes, yoshi. but other than that? no clue what's keeping up board sales)

ADDITIONS:

girl/chocolate- all the collabs and reissues seem like a cover for a lack of creative ideas.
toy machine, as much as I hate to say it.
creature/santa cruz- idk even know what's going on there. saving grace of the creature team is david gravette
I would say foundation but idk I feel like since king of the road they've been killing it

what am I missing?
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Plan b has chris joslin, trevor mcclung, and Felipe ya dumb cunt!!
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Yeah but their graphics are god awful..

They have some good graphics, even if you dont like their graphics that doesnt make them "irrelevant" thats supremely disingenuous
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: planman on December 25, 2018, 12:21:45 PM
Sounds like y'all are confusing relevancy for quality.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Tortoise on December 25, 2018, 12:22:48 PM
High Speed Productions since 2016.

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Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Backheels on December 25, 2018, 12:42:01 PM
Sounds like y'all are confusing relevancy for quality.

Sounds like you cant separate your opinions from the reality of the industry......
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: C. R. E. A. M on December 25, 2018, 12:48:23 PM
Stabbed myself in the anus trying to hardflip a gap with a foundation board back in the day.. Those Tum Yeto boards turn to fucking swords after chipping
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: planman on December 25, 2018, 01:02:45 PM
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Sounds like y'all are confusing relevancy for quality.
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Sounds like you cant separate your opinions from the reality of the industry......
Nah, what I'm trying to say is that although certain companies are whack (Plan B for example) it's ludicrous to say that they're not relevant. Joslin, Felipe, Leticia, etc are all some of the biggest names in skating right now. Saying they're clinging to relevancy because they're not relevant within our demographic completely ignores the rest of the industry, I think you're the one that doesn't understand the reality of it. The kids love skaters like the ones I just mentioned, and kids who skate outnumber "core" (using that term loosely) adults by far.
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Post by: Backheels on December 25, 2018, 01:09:44 PM
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Sounds like you cant separate your opinions from the reality of the industry......
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Nah, what I'm trying to say is that although certain companies are whack (Plan B for example) it's ludicrous to say that they're not relevant. Joslin, Felipe, Leticia, etc are all some of the biggest names in skating right now. Saying they're clinging to relevancy because they're not relevant within our demographic completely ignores the rest of the industry, I think you're the one that doesn't understand the reality of it. The kids love skaters like the ones I just mentioned, and kids who skate outnumber "core" (using that term loosely) adults by far.


Exactly,  reguardless of what you think they're aren't irrelevant. Anyone who says is either ignorant or doesn't know the definition of "relevancy". Separate logic from emotions.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: colt cannon lunchbox on December 25, 2018, 01:24:36 PM
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More importantly, what older board companies are still relevant?

Foundation (as of late)
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Has anyone seen a foundation deck in the wild in the last five years?

Read the other comments in this thread, but yeah I'm currently on my third foundation this year I'm pretty sure.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Just Giver on December 25, 2018, 01:42:05 PM
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Your list is biased to the cool guy factor. Plan B, DGK, Skate Mafia, and Almost all have a fan base and they sell a good amount of boards. Kids love it.  I'm sure Blind does but, has been whack for so long. Dudes backing small brands and being too cool for Black Label are fucking hypocrites. Creature wanted to be AH for so long and now they are turning into a weird contest skater thing. By far, Girl/Chocolate is chasing it's own tail looking for an identity in 2018.
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You sure about it? Never seen one live, nor have hear anyone ever talks about them... rest of those brands for sure but almost.... and kids love youtube pros more than actual companies these days.
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i know this sounds weird but judging a brands overall popularity based on what you see in person can be extremely misleading. i travel between the east and west coast frequently enough to see huge variances in what kids are riding. at home in the dc area i dont think ive ever seen a primitive deck and the local shops dont even stock them. i certainly wouldnt say they arent a big brand.

I know this is slightly besides your point, but have you ever been to Olney skatepark or Lake Fairfax?  There are a ton of kids on Primitive boards at those parks. 
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Post by: nopes on December 25, 2018, 01:47:51 PM
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Your list is biased to the cool guy factor. Plan B, DGK, Skate Mafia, and Almost all have a fan base and they sell a good amount of boards. Kids love it.  I'm sure Blind does but, has been whack for so long. Dudes backing small brands and being too cool for Black Label are fucking hypocrites. Creature wanted to be AH for so long and now they are turning into a weird contest skater thing. By far, Girl/Chocolate is chasing it's own tail looking for an identity in 2018.
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You sure about it? Never seen one live, nor have hear anyone ever talks about them... rest of those brands for sure but almost.... and kids love youtube pros more than actual companies these days.
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i know this sounds weird but judging a brands overall popularity based on what you see in person can be extremely misleading. i travel between the east and west coast frequently enough to see huge variances in what kids are riding. at home in the dc area i dont think ive ever seen a primitive deck and the local shops dont even stock them. i certainly wouldnt say they arent a big brand.
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I know this is slightly besides your point, but have you ever been to Olney skatepark or Lake Fairfax?  There are a ton of kids on Primitive boards at those parks.

ive only been to olney once and it was a weekend morning with mostly old dudes and lake fairfax once a long time ago.

im sure there are primitive decks out there. the fact that vu doesnt carry them says a lot about local demand.

one time i saw a svrn deck at woodside and i almost passed out.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Roast beef on December 25, 2018, 02:13:30 PM
The best way to narrow this down would be to start thread asking which brands actually are relevant.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Just Giver on December 25, 2018, 02:14:12 PM
Vú has had a few of the more popular Primitve series but typically doesn’t have any in stock.  It does tend to be irrelevant skatepark lurkers who purchase Primitive around here.  Also, Woodside is the epicenter of Art House DMV, and that’s the absolute worst thing in DC skateboarding besides that one kid Splif at Pulaski. 
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Bumpovertrash on December 25, 2018, 02:38:37 PM
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More importantly, what older board companies are still relevant?

Foundation (as of late)
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Has anyone seen a foundation deck in the wild in the last five years?
After kotr ive been seeing them around here in the midwest, Almost everyone was a cole wilson board
I thought about trying one out
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: humanflies on December 25, 2018, 02:40:57 PM
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Fallen
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Post by: Ziad on December 25, 2018, 05:23:09 PM
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More importantly, what older board companies are still relevant?

Baker
Foundation (as of late)
Maybe that's it?
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deluxe
and Creature
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Tally810 on December 25, 2018, 07:11:29 PM
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More importantly, what older board companies are still relevant?

Foundation (as of late)
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Has anyone seen a foundation deck in the wild in the last five years?
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After kotr ive been seeing them around here in the midwest, Almost everyone was a cole wilson board
I thought about trying one out
After the foundation video and kotr two of my locals stocked up on foundation decks and they have been moving pretty well.  Especially the glick models
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Bristol_Palin on December 25, 2018, 07:26:20 PM
zoo york, but it doesn't really seem like they're trying to be relevant. Pretty sad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmUYlIPHXyY

Skating mixed with all the freestyle footage from Stretch and Bobbito is so sick. Except I wasn't really feeling Jeff Pang's song too much. I like his part but that track is pretty fucked up.

Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: jakeumms on December 25, 2018, 07:36:12 PM
Last I heard, Zoo York cut their skate team so I think they don't count at all. Fully failed to stay relevant or however you wanna say it.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Soft Boiled on December 25, 2018, 07:40:34 PM
Mocha
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Ducky Fucky on December 25, 2018, 09:06:34 PM
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with the complete avalanche of new companies entering the skate scene, i feel like there are several companies that I remember being kind of staples and contributed a lot to the skate scene. but now, they're just not what they used to be and just not that relevant anymore or have gone some direction that I just don't understand
companies that immediately come to mind:
almost
plan b
blind
darkstar (do I even need to say it?)
DGK
sk8mafia (I love wes kremer still don't get me wrong)
stereo (yes, yoshi. but other than that? no clue what's keeping up board sales)

ADDITIONS:

girl/chocolate- all the collabs and reissues seem like a cover for a lack of creative ideas.
toy machine, as much as I hate to say it.
creature/santa cruz- idk even know what's going on there. saving grace of the creature team is david gravette
I would say foundation but idk I feel like since king of the road they've been killing it

what am I missing?
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Plan b has chris joslin, trevor mcclung, and Felipe ya dumb cunt!!
  Yeah Plan B  Fucking Sucks !!!!
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: cilantro on December 25, 2018, 09:14:29 PM
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Your list is biased to the cool guy factor. Plan B, DGK, Skate Mafia, and Almost all have a fan base and they sell a good amount of boards. Kids love it.  I'm sure Blind does but, has been whack for so long. Dudes backing small brands and being too cool for Black Label are fucking hypocrites. Creature wanted to be AH for so long and now they are turning into a weird contest skater thing. By far, Girl/Chocolate is chasing it's own tail looking for an identity in 2018.
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You sure about it? Never seen one live, nor have hear anyone ever talks about them... rest of those brands for sure but almost.... and kids love youtube pros more than actual companies these days.
[close]

i know this sounds weird but judging a brands overall popularity based on what you see in person can be extremely misleading. i travel between the east and west coast frequently enough to see huge variances in what kids are riding. at home in the dc area i dont think ive ever seen a primitive deck and the local shops dont even stock them. i certainly wouldnt say they arent a big brand.
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Yeah Same here I went to a park in a small town and every grom there was rocking Supra Sky Tops , Why? cause the local shredder they all looked up to rocked em. I see this everywhere I go trends vary depending on who's emulating Who.  I have seen so many Ben Kadow clones recently I'm starting to wonder if there is an online cult I don't know about.

Local friend recently started getting flowed for Stereo, so now there’s usually a good 9 of us at the local park skating his old stereo decks at any time
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Trickflip on December 25, 2018, 10:34:23 PM
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with the complete avalanche of new companies entering the skate scene, i feel like there are several companies that I remember being kind of staples and contributed a lot to the skate scene. but now, they're just not what they used to be and just not that relevant anymore or have gone some direction that I just don't understand
companies that immediately come to mind:
almost
plan b
blind
darkstar (do I even need to say it?)
DGK
sk8mafia (I love wes kremer still don't get me wrong)
stereo (yes, yoshi. but other than that? no clue what's keeping up board sales)

ADDITIONS:

girl/chocolate- all the collabs and reissues seem like a cover for a lack of creative ideas.
toy machine, as much as I hate to say it.
creature/santa cruz- idk even know what's going on there. saving grace of the creature team is david gravette
I would say foundation but idk I feel like since king of the road they've been killing it

what am I missing?
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Plan b has chris joslin, trevor mcclung, and Felipe ya dumb cunt!!
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  Yeah Plan B  Fucking Sucks !!!!
They're called Plan B for a reason. Their team riders peaked and now it's their plan B
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: TD on December 26, 2018, 04:48:59 AM
The year is 2364. Frog will be the only skateboard company.

I'm completely okay with this
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: shitcunt on December 26, 2018, 05:07:30 AM
Off the subject but those Primitive dragon ball z boards are so wack.. Just seen all them and those 30$ Blind boards on Zumiez website..Might cop the 30$ Real board they got tho
Nah they got the best team in skateboarding right now and skateboarding needs more graphics with foil. They just don't appeal to the cuffed pants And chucks crowd.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: calvinsdream on December 26, 2018, 05:36:52 AM
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Off the subject but those Primitive dragon ball z boards are so wack.. Just seen all them and those 30$ Blind boards on Zumiez website..Might cop the 30$ Real board they got tho
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Nah they got the best team leftovers in skateboarding right now and skateboarding needs more graphics with foil. They just don't appeal to the cuffed pants And chucks crowd. adults.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Roast beef on December 26, 2018, 06:02:26 AM
FA/Hockey
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Terms~of~Embeerment on December 26, 2018, 06:41:38 AM
Is 5 boro still around? Politic? What about that stoner/hippie collective of..Satori/Creation?
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: shitcunt on December 26, 2018, 07:02:08 AM
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Off the subject but those Primitive dragon ball z boards are so wack.. Just seen all them and those 30$ Blind boards on Zumiez website..Might cop the 30$ Real board they got tho
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Nah they got the best team leftovers in skateboarding right now and skateboarding needs more graphics with foil. They just don't appeal to the cuffed pants And chucks crowd. adults.
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Lmao Thiago, Diego Najera, wade d, brian peacock, and p-rod are leftovers. You probably thing skateboarding peaked when everyone was into Harley's and psych-rock. As for adults wearing chucks...
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: calvinsdream on December 26, 2018, 08:11:50 AM
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Off the subject but those Primitive dragon ball z boards are so wack.. Just seen all them and those 30$ Blind boards on Zumiez website..Might cop the 30$ Real board they got tho
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Nah they got the best team leftovers in skateboarding right now and skateboarding needs more graphics with foil. They just don't appeal to the cuffed pants And chucks crowd. adults.
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Lmao Thiago, Diego Najera, wade d, brian peacock, and p-rod are leftovers. You probably thing skateboarding peaked when everyone was into Harley's and psych-rock. As for adults wearing chucks...

Wade D and Tiago are the only ones that get a pass. And you’re way the fuck off about harley’s and psych rock. I have no idea when that was. Keep (dick) riding those goku/tupac boards.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Omars_Dad on December 26, 2018, 08:42:40 AM
Last I heard, Zoo York cut their skate team so I think they don't count at all. Fully failed to stay relevant or however you wanna say it.

Not sure how you stay more relevant than JCP and Kohl's to be honest
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Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: jakeumms on December 26, 2018, 10:51:02 AM
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Last I heard, Zoo York cut their skate team so I think they don't count at all. Fully failed to stay relevant or however you wanna say it.
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Not sure how you stay more relevant than JCP and Kohl's to be honest
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You probably know this and are trolling but JC Penny now owns the trademark for Zoo York and they do not, strictly speaking, make skateboards. Any Zoo decks you see are licensed out of Chapman. Someone who knows the sitch better can feel free to chime in but 2018 was the year that whoever still ran the board brand cut the riders. If you do not make skateboards or have some kind of team you can't be a skateboard brand.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: SneakySecrets on December 26, 2018, 12:22:25 PM
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More importantly, what older board companies are still relevant?

Foundation (as of late)
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Has anyone seen a foundation deck in the wild in the last five years?

Skated one 2 summers ago that was poo poo.

Had an Ethan Fowler Art Bars deck in like 2001 that I loved.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: Hmmmm Nice Bike on December 26, 2018, 02:57:26 PM
Consolidated.
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: ziggy on December 26, 2018, 05:14:45 PM
Consolidated.

Not really what they’re going for, is it
Title: Re: Older companies that are struggling to stay relevant
Post by: clintendo on December 26, 2018, 05:15:38 PM
Heard when Cliche got the boot that Darkstar Blind was far and away the best selling brand for World/Globe dwindle or whoever runs it.

Certain companies might not seem relevant to you but that doesn’t mean there not doing well.

Different models for sales success exist within skateboarding.