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Title: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Gideon Choi on December 28, 2018, 12:15:54 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/eKGt3T0.png?1)
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: zuma on December 28, 2018, 12:21:57 PM
appleyard had a digital part i can t find and janoski had an expedition part you forgot to include

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDprSaySDwM

Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Chatbot on December 28, 2018, 12:22:09 PM
This is info I never knew I wanted to see. Props on this. Also, surprised neither did a switch tre at all.

I feel like this can be a section at Jenkemmag. You plan on doing any other skaters?
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Gideon Choi on December 28, 2018, 12:25:00 PM
appleyard had a digital part i can t find and janoski had an expedition part you forgot to include
Yes I considered adding, but Appleyard's Digital part had a bit too much b-roll so I left it out to keep it even at 5 vids each.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: feedmeseymour on December 28, 2018, 12:26:04 PM
good work captain duck
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Gideon Choi on December 28, 2018, 12:26:56 PM
This is info I never knew I wanted to see. Props on this. Also, surprised neither did a switch tre at all.

I feel like this can be a section at Jenkemmag. You plan on doing any other skaters?

I did a breakdown of Menikmati awhile back.

(https://i.imgur.com/BwTdDbe.png)
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Mongoloid on December 28, 2018, 12:42:19 PM
This nerd shit warms the cockles of my cock.

Great stuff!
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Bobby Peru on December 28, 2018, 12:48:26 PM
These are fun! Wild that they did nearly the same amount of tricks.

Was it you who did this with Fully Flared or someone else?
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: ChrisLambe94 on December 28, 2018, 12:51:08 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/eKGt3T0.png?1)

This is too rad, Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: tobal on December 28, 2018, 12:55:56 PM
Thank you so much Gideon 🙏
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Gideon Choi on December 28, 2018, 12:57:27 PM
These are fun! Wild that they did nearly the same amount of tricks.

Was it you who did this with Fully Flared or someone else?

I did Menikmati, see posts above with the infographic on that one. I also did a quick breakdown (no graphic) Steve Williams The Reason

The stereotype is that Asians are good in math, well that's actually true for me as well.

I was re-watching Stevie's Transworld part in The Reason, obviously well-noted for his long lines and mostly filmed at Love Park. But this time around I couldn't help but dig a bit deeper and pull same interesting data from the video part. I had fun doing this and might make this a regular thing. Anyways, Stevie Williams part in The Reason:

  • Time duration of part = 4m 34s
  • Actual skating from Stevie = 2m 10s or 48% of total part
  • Rest of video part (intro, Kevin Taylor & Josh Kalis) = 2m 20s or 52%
  • Stevie's first line = 40s long or 31% of his skating or 15% of the total video part
  • Stevie's total video clips filmed = 14
  • 11 clips filmed @ LOVE / 2 clips @ The Pier / 1 clip @ Brooklyn Banks
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: MintySandwhich on December 28, 2018, 01:09:30 PM
Brilliant, Gideon Choi
Really good work.

These are top-tier infographics. Have you ever worked with any publishers? Sorry if you have stated before.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: nice weather on December 28, 2018, 01:12:10 PM
These are great. If things go the way they could I'll pick up a copy of your book at urban outfitters in ca. 2 years
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Gideon Choi on December 28, 2018, 01:15:22 PM
Brilliant, Gideon Choi
Really good work.

These are top-tier infographics. Have you ever worked with any publishers? Sorry if you have stated before.

I have not, I just do this as a hobby in my spare time and I really enjoy working in Excel. I started this one about 3 months ago and worked on it bit by bit. The idea with this one kickstarted when I noticed how few lines Appleyard films, and it went from there. I don't even remember why I added Janoski data so the fact they almost filmed the same about of tricks (238 vs. 237) tripped me out when I started working the numbers.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: zuma on December 28, 2018, 01:17:23 PM
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appleyard had a digital part i can t find and janoski had an expedition part you forgot to include
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Yes I considered adding, but Appleyard's Digital part had a bit too much b-roll so I left it out to keep it even at 5 vids each.

no worries! cool idea anyway- also loved the menikmati one
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Swithflip on December 28, 2018, 01:22:54 PM
Appleyard had a part in photosinthesis.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Gideon Choi on December 28, 2018, 01:25:31 PM
Appleyard had a part in photosinthesis.

Yeah looking back I should have added that one and Janoski's Alone part. But five is nice cleaner number haha
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: guest1 on December 28, 2018, 01:35:58 PM
Iím impressed.  Would gnar you if I could.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Nate.Dog on December 28, 2018, 01:50:53 PM
This is rad. Most commonly done/favorite tricks would be an interesting tidbit to add, like how many times janoski tre-flipped, switch flipped, or nollie frontside flipped, or how many times appleyard nollie heeled or nollie flipped into something, stuff like that.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: doublesteveburger on December 28, 2018, 01:54:47 PM
yeah but how do you feel?
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: GAY on December 28, 2018, 01:57:50 PM
This is rad.

Gideon, have you ever used PowerBI? They've got me learning it at work and it's pretty rad.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Watson on December 28, 2018, 01:58:43 PM
Was it you who did this with Fully Flared or someone else?

I did the Fully Flared one forever ago. http://youwillsoon.blogspot.com/2008/04/fully-flared-statistical-analysis.html

After it came out even though it was shitting on Fully Flared, Kelly Bird posted on the Lakai site that he was looking to talk to the person who did it. I hit him up and did a modified version that was strictly numbers, no opinion and it made it into the Final Flare boxset book. For my contribution I got two pairs of Caroll Selects, as well as a pair of Lakai slippers, and eight Lakai shirts that I never wore.

Good stuff Gideon, I really like it.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Gideon Choi on December 28, 2018, 02:00:36 PM
This is rad.

Gideon, have you ever used PowerBI? They've got me learning it at work and it's pretty rad.

I've looked into that one, but we use Tableau at my work. I'd viz the data through there but it's the company's license.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Gideon Choi on December 28, 2018, 02:02:47 PM
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Was it you who did this with Fully Flared or someone else?
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I did the Fully Flared one forever ago. http://youwillsoon.blogspot.com/2008/04/fully-flared-statistical-analysis.html

After it came out even though it was shitting on Fully Flared, Kelly Bird posted on the Lakai site that he was looking to talk to the person who did it. I hit him up and did a modified version that was strictly numbers, no opinion and it made it into the Final Flare boxset book. For my contribution I got two pairs of Caroll Selects, as well as a pair of Lakai slippers, and eight Lakai shirts that I never wore.

Good stuff Gideon, I really like it.

Whoa I've never seen this but it's awesome. Once you start you have to finish the work. That's cool you got product out of it. I've wanted to do one for Yeah Right as I feel like that video over-indexes with the amount of manny tricks in it.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Herm Worshnitz on December 28, 2018, 02:22:38 PM
These are great, Gideon (and Watson).

I'd buy a zine or book should you ever feel inclined to put something together. The format suits my attention span perfectly.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on December 28, 2018, 02:42:58 PM
This is some of the most beautiful shit I ever witnessed. Gnar'd
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Kill_Yourself_Now on December 28, 2018, 03:41:59 PM
(https://pm1.narvii.com/6428/c284145641ef924c06c5cc16fa78bb3443c835a9_hq.jpg)

But still interesting.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: SneakySecrets on December 28, 2018, 04:31:33 PM
Woah, these are awesome man, great job.

Iím going to try and think up some other good ones.  Maybe something with Welcome to Hell or Photosynthesis?
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: fulltechnicalskizzy on December 28, 2018, 04:44:04 PM
have you ever used PowerBI
Gimme your password I got a joke but it only works from your account
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: roomservice on December 28, 2018, 06:17:03 PM
Great stuff. looking forward to seeing more
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on December 28, 2018, 06:23:27 PM
Nice, do something Mindfield related.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: MAGIC POTTY BABY BITCH on December 28, 2018, 07:25:16 PM
can you do a breakdown of all jerry hsu's parts and work out if he skates more regular or switch
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: eminem96 on December 28, 2018, 09:53:52 PM
The sheer nerdery. I luv it.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: snowman600 on December 28, 2018, 10:06:51 PM
Consider a parallel universe where stefan rides for globe and element, and apples rides for nike and habitat. yeah weird..
Great job Gideon, tell me you counted apples' hippie swerve over the pole as a trick in a line, that shit is classic
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Allen. on December 28, 2018, 10:30:42 PM
I really hope youíre the Gideon Choi. My illegally downloaded kaZaa version of Round 2 ended right when you kickflipped up that three if so.
Remember when you did front blunt varial flip? That was awesome.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: blurst_of_times on December 28, 2018, 11:40:13 PM
Gideon Choi, you are a god amongst men
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: happenstance on December 29, 2018, 12:32:33 AM
This is rad.

Gideon, have you ever used PowerBI? They've got me learning it at work and it's pretty rad.
I too use PowerBI. That is all.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: slop on December 29, 2018, 01:16:32 AM
YES! This is rad!
I've got a bunch of similar things half made.. I actually made this account with the intent of finally finishing them off and having somewhere to put them. Better get to it asap before its all obsolete ;)
feeling inspired.

and yeah. keep making more!
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: franc on December 29, 2018, 03:02:47 AM
Thanks Gideon!
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Swithflip on December 29, 2018, 04:50:47 AM
Cant understand why Appleyard didnt put this ss 360 flip in his Extremely Sorry part.

https://youtu.be/iTKiQQkj9AA
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: TD on December 29, 2018, 05:21:05 AM
best thread in a while. this is the autism slap needs
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: heckler on December 29, 2018, 06:14:34 AM
Another interesting parallel: both of these dudes found well-deserved financial success, but their skating suffered as a result of it.

Good work, Gideon.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: matureoftheocean on December 29, 2018, 12:03:18 PM
Cant understand why Appleyard didnt put this ss 360 flip in his Extremely Sorry part.

https://youtu.be/iTKiQQkj9AA

Im guessing he didnt like the landing cause it was kinda stiff but I liked it.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Gideon Choi on January 02, 2019, 01:27:27 PM
Another interesting parallel: both of these dudes found well-deserved financial success, but their skating suffered as a result of it.

Good work, Gideon.

I see what you're saying but both Mark and Stefan put out at least 5 solid video parts in almost 10 years which is a solid pro career so they're dip in footage and output is okay by me. Much better than the Baker formula for most of their riders which is go big, sell products, get addicted to something, skating suffers, get sober. Rinse & repeat.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Gideon Choi on January 02, 2019, 01:28:20 PM
Appreciate all the props from you Slap Pals

If you have any other ideas for skateboarding data analysis, shoot them my way.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: redcurb12 on January 02, 2019, 03:21:33 PM
Consider a parallel universe where stefan rides for globe and element, and apples rides for nike and habitat. yeah weird..
Great job Gideon, tell me you counted apples' hippie swerve over the pole as a trick in a line, that shit is classic

tbh i could see it
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Noble Experiment on January 02, 2019, 03:33:42 PM
I love this kind of shit. I'd gnar you twice if i could.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: mattchew on January 02, 2019, 06:20:23 PM
This is rad.

Gideon, have you ever used PowerBI? They've got me learning it at work and it's pretty rad.

PowerBI? Thereís a gay joke in there somewhere.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: HyenaChaser on January 02, 2019, 07:46:32 PM
So good
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: slobplant on January 02, 2019, 07:48:51 PM
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Was it you who did this with Fully Flared or someone else?
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I did the Fully Flared one forever ago. http://youwillsoon.blogspot.com/2008/04/fully-flared-statistical-analysis.html

After it came out even though it was shitting on Fully Flared, Kelly Bird posted on the Lakai site that he was looking to talk to the person who did it. I hit him up and did a modified version that was strictly numbers, no opinion and it made it into the Final Flare boxset book. For my contribution I got two pairs of Caroll Selects, as well as a pair of Lakai slippers, and eight Lakai shirts that I never wore.

Good stuff Gideon, I really like it.

"This can most likely be attributed to the fact that Jeff Lenoce blows dong.." made me laugh

All of these stat are interesting and I'd like to see more
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: EPetrov on January 02, 2019, 08:39:42 PM
do you have a graphic design background?
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Gideon Choi on January 02, 2019, 09:39:49 PM
do you have a graphic design background?

No, I have a marketing background but a lot of industry articles I read include a lot of infographics. I also work with graphic designers quite often.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: bo golden on January 03, 2019, 08:51:55 AM
curious as to why i cant see the original post, showing up blank.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: Watson on January 03, 2019, 09:04:05 AM
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Was it you who did this with Fully Flared or someone else?
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I did the Fully Flared one forever ago. http://youwillsoon.blogspot.com/2008/04/fully-flared-statistical-analysis.html

After it came out even though it was shitting on Fully Flared, Kelly Bird posted on the Lakai site that he was looking to talk to the person who did it. I hit him up and did a modified version that was strictly numbers, no opinion and it made it into the Final Flare boxset book. For my contribution I got two pairs of Caroll Selects, as well as a pair of Lakai slippers, and eight Lakai shirts that I never wore.

Good stuff Gideon, I really like it.
[close]

"This can most likely be attributed to the fact that Jeff Lenoce blows dong.." made me laugh

All of these stat are interesting and I'd like to see more

I've since changed my mind about Lenoce. Sorry Lenoce.
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: sharkin on January 03, 2019, 09:52:18 AM
very cool

hard to believe the switch 360 flip, that kinda surprised me there
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: headtowall on January 03, 2019, 10:02:14 AM
really dope
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: tortfeasor on January 03, 2019, 10:56:16 AM
These are great, Gideon (and Watson).

I'd buy a zine or book should you ever feel inclined to put something together. The format suits my attention span perfectly.


this would make for amazing coffee table/back of toilet book. i would be curious to also see how pros stack up against themselves in video parts over the years (compare the content of two parts equal in length X amount of years apart)
Title: Re: By the numbers part 2 - Appleyard vs. Janoski [Infographic]
Post by: EPetrov on January 03, 2019, 07:39:09 PM
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do you have a graphic design background?
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No, I have a marketing background but a lot of industry articles I read include a lot of infographics. I also work with graphic designers quite often.

same actully. those info-graphics look great.