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Title: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 01:32:19 PM
Yo, i understand dude is still a kid... but te relentless sponsor swaps are getting out of hand...
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Post by: FUCKINGLOUD on September 22, 2019, 01:33:15 PM
LOVE ALL THE CONTEXT YOU GAVE HERE
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Post by: LordManHammer on September 22, 2019, 01:36:55 PM
This ain’t it chief.....,
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Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 01:39:31 PM
LOVE ALL THE CONTEXT YOU GAVE HERE

I personally like Ventures, but do you REALLY think Kader will still be riding them this time next year?
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Post by: Spacenoid on September 22, 2019, 01:43:24 PM
Yo, i understand dude is still a kid... but te relentless sponsor swaps are getting out of hand...

Provide context...like the sponsors and maybe deal info

Also who cares if he isn't breaking contracts?
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: LordManHammer on September 22, 2019, 01:48:31 PM
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I personally like Ventures, but do you REALLY think Kader will still be riding them this time next year?
Hate to side with the rest of these guy's but when making claims on SLAP one has to have source for your thread...... I mean maybe he likes tight trucks with wider wheelbase.......?
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Post by: bbk on September 22, 2019, 01:50:43 PM
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I personally like Ventures, but do you REALLY think Kader will still be riding them this time next year?
Yes, I really think so. Lock this thread and we'll see in a year.

/thread
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 02:08:17 PM
LOVE ALL THE CONTEXT YOU GAVE HERE


left emerica for vans
Left indy for venture
Left rvca for supreme

All in the past 12 months...
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: chappers on September 22, 2019, 02:11:50 PM
all trade ups

stop hatin you loser
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Post by: os89 on September 22, 2019, 02:12:43 PM
Why do you care what he does? Youre a 30 year old father... Worry about your own kids. Get your priorities in order skatedad. 
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Post by: HugeBodBoyle on September 22, 2019, 02:27:04 PM
White people get really upset when young black men try and better their situation.
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Post by: Christmas Complete on September 22, 2019, 02:30:09 PM
I'm sure you'll skate-coach your kid to be better than him, whether he likes it or not.

Free Trae the Tank
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 02:31:42 PM
White people get really upset when young black men try and better their situation.


Lmfao what ever made you assume i was white?! I’m actually Mexican...
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Post by: HugeBodBoyle on September 22, 2019, 02:34:18 PM
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Lmfao what ever made you assume i was white?! I’m actually Mexican...

Prove it.
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Post by: Windsor Knot on September 22, 2019, 02:37:10 PM
Yeah who gives a fucking shit! Who cares what trucks anyone rides lol!
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Post by: SHIREFLIP on September 22, 2019, 02:38:44 PM
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Lmfao what ever made you assume i was white?! I’m actually Mexican...
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Prove it.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Eds_gallerist on September 22, 2019, 02:48:43 PM
I am convinced that somewhere in the dark end of the internet a thread exists on some weird messageboard where dudes like OP try to outcompete themselves for the shittiest of the shittiest threads started on SLAP.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 02:49:57 PM
I am convinced that somewhere in the dark end of the internet a thread exists on some weird messageboard where dudes like OP try to outcompete themselves for the shittiest of the shittiest threads started on SLAP.


😁
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Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on September 22, 2019, 02:53:55 PM
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left emerica for vans
Left indy for venture
Left rvca for supreme

All in the past 12 months...


POWER MOVES baby
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 02:55:42 PM
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LOVE ALL THE CONTEXT YOU GAVE HERE
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left emerica for vans
Left indy for venture
Left rvca for supreme

All in the past 12 months...
[close]


POWER MOVES baby


Lmfao same kooks gunna be crying when he leaves baker for FA...
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Trickflip on September 22, 2019, 02:58:54 PM
Free Trae the Tank
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Southernmost on September 22, 2019, 03:01:08 PM
Yes we know he dropped Emerica and rides Venture now but what about his GRIPTAPE?!
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Post by: thebacker on September 22, 2019, 03:03:49 PM
i bet youre PISSED andrew reynolds left emerica too?

here's something for ya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdofmoYcJNE
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Post by: SATIVA HYBRID on September 22, 2019, 03:05:04 PM
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left emerica for vans
Left indy for venture
Left rvca for supreme

All in the past 12 months...
are you really defending rvca right now
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 03:06:00 PM
Yes we know he dropped Emerica and rides Venture now but what about his GRIPTAPE?!

🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 Ill bet he left jessup for MoB too lol
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Post by: Bristol_Palin on September 22, 2019, 03:06:45 PM
Go birds
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 03:10:00 PM
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left emerica for vans
Left indy for venture
Left rvca for supreme

All in the past 12 months...
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are you really defending rvca right now

Will you be suprised when he leaves Supreme for not being trendy next yr as well then?
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Southernmost on September 22, 2019, 03:11:31 PM
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Yes we know he dropped Emerica and rides Venture now but what about his GRIPTAPE?!
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🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 Ill bet he left jessup for MoB too lol
I think I just assumed he was on Shake Junt but I could see him on Bro Style.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 03:14:19 PM
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Yes we know he dropped Emerica and rides Venture now but what about his GRIPTAPE?!
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🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 Ill bet he left jessup for MoB too lol
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I think I just assumed he was on Shake Junt but I could see him on Bro Style.

Lol i have NEVER seen bro style grip in person. Ever. And i live in socal...
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Christmas Complete on September 22, 2019, 03:25:09 PM
I'll bet you tag your insta posts #raddads and #thankyouskateboarding
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Post by: VHS ERA on September 22, 2019, 03:30:42 PM
Idk about all that but his new graphics are pretty nice https://www.instagram.com/p/B2UItnAHngq/?igshid=6qjl74zwasxw
(https://i.ibb.co/dsvHRHZ/EB29083-F-7-CB4-4-C13-90-E9-A892-BB88-A75-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6cSqkqQ)
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Post by: Switch FS K-Swiss Grind on September 22, 2019, 03:36:03 PM
Shiddddd yeah those are both great. Especially that ATCQ graphic.
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Post by: SHIREFLIP on September 22, 2019, 03:55:15 PM
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Lmfao what ever made you assume i was white?! I’m actually Mexican...

(https://i.imgur.com/Gy0lbzk.png)
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Post by: HugeBodBoyle on September 22, 2019, 03:58:39 PM
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Lmfao what ever made you assume i was white?! I’m actually Mexican...
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(https://i.imgur.com/Gy0lbzk.png)

Even if he was "Mexican", it would then be safe to assume that he, or his family prior left Mexico to find a better situation in America. THE ULTIMATE TEAM CHANGE.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on September 22, 2019, 04:05:38 PM
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left emerica for vans
Left indy for venture
Left rvca for supreme

All in the past 12 months...
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POWER MOVES baby
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Lmfao same kooks gunna be crying when he leaves baker for FA...

So you'll be making another post about it. Gotcha. But anyways he will never go to FA.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 04:10:15 PM
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Lmfao what ever made you assume i was white?! I’m actually Mexican...
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(https://i.imgur.com/Gy0lbzk.png)
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Even if he was "Mexican", it would then be safe to assume that he, or his family prior left Mexico to find a better situation in America. THE ULTIMATE TEAM CHANGE.


My pueblo in zacateca is nicer than ALL of southern CA. Im SERIOUSLy thinking about going back... yall mfers just let homeless shit and piss everywhere! Down in MC we dont tolerate that filth! I think they make tacos outta em 🤣
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: imafugyashizup on September 22, 2019, 04:11:37 PM
Shiddddd yeah those are both great. Especially that ATCQ graphic.

Yeah the neckface ones great too, reminds me a lot of old birdhouse/cliver decks, but obviously in neck's signature style.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Hefe43 on September 22, 2019, 04:25:25 PM
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Lmfao what ever made you assume i was white?! I’m actually Mexican...
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(https://i.imgur.com/Gy0lbzk.png)
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Even if he was "Mexican", it would then be safe to assume that he, or his family prior left Mexico to find a better situation in America. THE ULTIMATE TEAM CHANGE.
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My pueblo in zacateca is nicer than ALL of southern CA. Im SERIOUSLy thinking about going back... yall mfers just let homeless shit and piss everywhere! Down in MC we dont tolerate that filth! I think they make tacos outta em 🤣

It’s Zacatecas white...what color is you MAGAt hat
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 04:32:12 PM
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Lmfao what ever made you assume i was white?! I’m actually Mexican...
[close]

(https://i.imgur.com/Gy0lbzk.png)
[close]

Even if he was "Mexican", it would then be safe to assume that he, or his family prior left Mexico to find a better situation in America. THE ULTIMATE TEAM CHANGE.
[close]


My pueblo in zacateca is nicer than ALL of southern CA. Im SERIOUSLy thinking about going back... yall mfers just let homeless shit and piss everywhere! Down in MC we dont tolerate that filth! I think they make tacos outta em 🤣
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It’s Zacatecas white...what color is you MAGAt hat


RED just like every other one... #latinosfortrump... dont worry youll want to leave the slave plantation (dem party) one day too...
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: FUCKINGLOUD on September 22, 2019, 04:37:08 PM
Idk about all that but his new graphics are pretty nice https://www.instagram.com/p/B2UItnAHngq/?igshid=6qjl74zwasxw
(https://i.ibb.co/dsvHRHZ/EB29083-F-7-CB4-4-C13-90-E9-A892-BB88-A75-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6cSqkqQ)

I USED TO HAVE A STRONG DISLIKE FOR ANYTHING NECKFACE AND THOUGHT HIS ARTWORK WAS GARBAGE. THEN I SAW THIS SHIT IN TOKYO IN APRIL
(https://i.imgur.com/gtNzVu1.png)
IF I WERE THAT LITTLE TRAITOR ID STOP RIDING AH BOARDS AND START APPRECIATING THE SHIT YOUR ARTISTS MAKE

EDIT: THAT TRIBE BOARD IS FUCKING FANTASTIC
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on September 22, 2019, 04:44:34 PM
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Lmfao what ever made you assume i was white?! I’m actually Mexican...
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(https://i.imgur.com/Gy0lbzk.png)
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Even if he was "Mexican", it would then be safe to assume that he, or his family prior left Mexico to find a better situation in America. THE ULTIMATE TEAM CHANGE.
[close]


My pueblo in zacateca is nicer than ALL of southern CA. Im SERIOUSLy thinking about going back... yall mfers just let homeless shit and piss everywhere! Down in MC we dont tolerate that filth! I think they make tacos outta em 🤣
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It’s Zacatecas white...what color is you MAGAt hat
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RED just like every other one... #latinosfortrump... dont worry youll want to leave the slave plantation (dem party) one day too...

Wait, they make tacos out of dirty homeless people? You sound like a complete idiot.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 04:54:03 PM
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Lmfao what ever made you assume i was white?! I’m actually Mexican...
[close]

(https://i.imgur.com/Gy0lbzk.png)
[close]

Even if he was "Mexican", it would then be safe to assume that he, or his family prior left Mexico to find a better situation in America. THE ULTIMATE TEAM CHANGE.
[close]


My pueblo in zacateca is nicer than ALL of southern CA. Im SERIOUSLy thinking about going back... yall mfers just let homeless shit and piss everywhere! Down in MC we dont tolerate that filth! I think they make tacos outta em 🤣
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It’s Zacatecas white...what color is you MAGAt hat
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RED just like every other one... #latinosfortrump... dont worry youll want to leave the slave plantation (dem party) one day too...
[close]

Wait, they make tacos out of dirty homeless people? You sound like a complete idiot.

Before you name call how about you do some research homie...
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: johnes on September 22, 2019, 04:58:21 PM
Staying loyal to brands is overrated.
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Post by: Swithflip on September 22, 2019, 05:03:29 PM
Idk about all that but his new graphics are pretty nice https://www.instagram.com/p/B2UItnAHngq/?igshid=6qjl74zwasxw
(https://i.ibb.co/dsvHRHZ/EB29083-F-7-CB4-4-C13-90-E9-A892-BB88-A75-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6cSqkqQ)

One of my fav hip hop album ever.
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Post by: Hefe43 on September 22, 2019, 05:05:54 PM
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Lmfao what ever made you assume i was white?! I’m actually Mexican...
[close]

(https://i.imgur.com/Gy0lbzk.png)
[close]

Even if he was "Mexican", it would then be safe to assume that he, or his family prior left Mexico to find a better situation in America. THE ULTIMATE TEAM CHANGE.
[close]


My pueblo in zacateca is nicer than ALL of southern CA. Im SERIOUSLy thinking about going back... yall mfers just let homeless shit and piss everywhere! Down in MC we dont tolerate that filth! I think they make tacos outta em 🤣
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It’s Zacatecas white...what color is you MAGAt hat
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RED just like every other one... #latinosfortrump... dont worry youll want to leave the slave plantation (dem party) one day too...

You’re first generation aren’t you?

I don’t do party politics.  You live in California right? Your vote doesn’t matter no matter how much you want it to or think it does.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Buck Russell on September 22, 2019, 05:13:16 PM
this is too stupid to dignify but he just didn’t stick with his hookups from when he was a lil flow kid. dude stepped up his skating, presence and promotional reach and got sponsors that reflected that. good for him.

also that atcq graphic is complete dogshit you guys have the worst eyeballs.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Coco Santiagos Kitten on September 22, 2019, 05:13:45 PM
Anyone with any loyalty to any employer is a sucker. It ain't the 1950s anymore. There's nothing wrong with getting yours, especially in an industry where the loss of your career is always one bad injury/bad Instagram post/kooky magazine interview away.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: versacekid420 on September 22, 2019, 05:23:45 PM
Who really cares. He left shitty sponsors for good ones. Good on him
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Post by: boogs on September 22, 2019, 05:24:29 PM
Yes we know he dropped Emerica and rides Venture now but what about his GRIPTAPE?!
Shake junt
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Bizarro Jerry on September 22, 2019, 05:24:36 PM
All I know is that I'm a 27 year old idiot that has switched from indy to venture to indy to thunder to ace all this year.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 05:31:31 PM
All I know is that I'm a 27 year old idiot that has switched from indy to venture to indy to thunder to ace all this year.
🙌🏼😁
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Reed Richards on September 22, 2019, 05:35:13 PM
Dudes leave sponsors everyday, b.  You'll be aiight though, you tough.

Also that ATCQ deck is sweet.  And why would Kader go to crowded ass FA when he's the man at Baker along with Rowan?
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 05:42:39 PM
Dudes leave sponsors everyday, b.  You'll be aiight though, you tough.

Also that ATCQ deck is sweet.  And why would Kader go to crowded ass FA when he's the man at Baker along with Rowan?

Because kader looks up to those guys and is a opportunist...
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Tuff Lover on September 22, 2019, 05:51:57 PM
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I wonder if Kider has even listened to the album. Or even the 1st song

"Back in the days when I was a teenager
Before I had status and before I had a pager
You could find the Abstract listenin' to hip-hop
My pops used to say, it reminded him of Bebop
I said, "Well, Daddy, don't you know that things go in cycles?
Way that Bobby Brown is just amping like Michael"
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: slug18 on September 22, 2019, 05:53:38 PM
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Lmfao what ever made you assume i was white?! I’m actually Mexican...
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(https://i.imgur.com/Gy0lbzk.png)
[close]

Even if he was "Mexican", it would then be safe to assume that he, or his family prior left Mexico to find a better situation in America. THE ULTIMATE TEAM CHANGE.
[close]


My pueblo in zacateca is nicer than ALL of southern CA. Im SERIOUSLy thinking about going back... yall mfers just let homeless shit and piss everywhere! Down in MC we dont tolerate that filth! I think they make tacos outta em 🤣
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It’s Zacatecas white...what color is you MAGAt hat
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RED just like every other one... #latinosfortrump... dont worry youll want to leave the slave plantation (dem party) one day too...
[close]

Wait, they make tacos out of dirty homeless people? You sound like a complete idiot.
[close]

Before you name call how about you do some research homie...

Make Mud Great Again
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on September 22, 2019, 05:55:12 PM
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I wonder if Kider has even listened to the album. Or even the 1st song

"Back in the days when I was a teenager
Before I had status and before I had a pager
You could find the Abstract listenin' to hip-hop
My pops used to say, it reminded him of Bebop
I said, "Well, Daddy, don't you know that things go in cycles?
Way that Bobby Brown is just amping like Michael"
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Makes u think
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: ShyLow on September 22, 2019, 06:06:18 PM
It rhymes so it must be true
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: McJagger on September 22, 2019, 07:16:57 PM
everyone's been leaving indy lately so no biggie and his vans move is so 2018.  Let the kid live
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Spacenoid on September 22, 2019, 07:21:52 PM
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Lmfao what ever made you assume i was white?! I’m actually Mexican...
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(https://i.imgur.com/Gy0lbzk.png)
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Even if he was "Mexican", it would then be safe to assume that he, or his family prior left Mexico to find a better situation in America. THE ULTIMATE TEAM CHANGE.
[close]


My pueblo in zacateca is nicer than ALL of southern CA. Im SERIOUSLy thinking about going back... yall mfers just let homeless shit and piss everywhere! Down in MC we dont tolerate that filth! I think they make tacos outta em 🤣
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It’s Zacatecas white...what color is you MAGAt hat
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RED just like every other one... #latinosfortrump... dont worry youll want to leave the slave plantation (dem party) one day too...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/wFv0Woe4IkcQo/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: swordtechnique on September 22, 2019, 07:33:17 PM
Do people really prefer Ventures to Indys nowadays?
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Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 07:48:48 PM
Do people really prefer Ventures to Indys nowadays?

Yea.
Not all of us skate transition or need the deep carving turn of indy or ace. I have a ready set if Indy, venture and Thunder for the board dimension or type of skaing i want. I prefer the baseplate slide of venture but enjoy the turning radius of thunder. Sometimes i wanna ride indy and sometimes i dont 🤷🏼‍♂️
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: 144p on September 22, 2019, 07:57:58 PM
The 6.1 ventures turn very nicely.
People leave sponsors because either they got offered a better a deal or their friends either left said brand or are on another one.
Alex Olson referenced that when he left Vans.
It’s tough being on trips with people you don’t really click with.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Abyss1 on September 22, 2019, 07:59:40 PM
I still fuck with venture   ;D
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Post by: Algar on September 22, 2019, 08:29:35 PM
Do people really prefer Ventures to Indys nowadays?

I recall a particular B. Worrest part from a few months ago....May have changed some minds. I'm still stuck on indy's but want to give ace or thunder a try
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Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 08:31:32 PM
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Do people really prefer Ventures to Indys nowadays?
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I recall a particular B. Worrest part from a few months ago....May have changed some minds. I'm still stuck on indy's but want to give ace of thunder a try

Try some thunder team hollow hi. Great turning (like indy) but super stable (like venture)
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on September 22, 2019, 08:33:57 PM
Kader is basically the pope if you compare him to dudes in the 90s who would not only sponsor hop like rabbits, but also ride for two truck/ shoe/ wheel/ board companies at the same time
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Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 08:38:54 PM
Kader is basically the pope if you compare him to dudes in the 90s who would not only sponsor hop like rabbits, but also ride for two truck/ shoe/ wheel/ board companies at the same time

Great point actually... kalis is someone i looked up to coming up and hes known for that...
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: fs overkrook on September 22, 2019, 10:00:35 PM
You whack ass mother fuckers really care about what a child is doing

You should be ashamed of yourself
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Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 10:01:58 PM
You whack ass mother fuckers really care about what a child is doing

You should be ashamed of yourself
Go fuck your tinypic then beat  it kook
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Post by: DannyDee on September 22, 2019, 10:27:47 PM
The 6.1 ventures turn very nicely.
People leave sponsors because either they got offered a better a deal or their friends either left said brand or are on another one.
Alex Olson referenced that when he left Vans.
It’s tough being on trips with people you don’t really click with.
Alex Olson got kicked off Vans because they didn't want him to move to NYC while they were filming Propellor. Probably because he couldn't be relied upon to produce footage. It was around the time of Pretty Sweet, and he seemed pretty burnt out on filming big projects.
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Post by: Ok on September 22, 2019, 10:36:57 PM
All I know is that I'm a 27 year old idiot that has switched from indy to venture to indy to thunder to ace all this year.

Considerably older here, but yeah.
Honestly it kinda weirds me out that pros/sponced types don’t try out different gear more often.
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Post by: fs overkrook on September 22, 2019, 10:37:55 PM
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You whack ass mother fuckers really care about what a child is doing

You should be ashamed of yourself
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Go fuck your tinypic then beat  it kook
No you 45 post dip shit

You are questionable on here
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Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 22, 2019, 10:39:45 PM
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You whack ass mother fuckers really care about what a child is doing

You should be ashamed of yourself
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Go fuck your tinypic then beat  it kook
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No you 45 post dip shit

You are questionable on here
Oh ive been around...
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Dr-Feelgood on September 23, 2019, 01:46:30 AM
you a jaded old man, dont be mad at the homie for making moves and doing whats right for him.
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Post by: iNeverSkated on September 23, 2019, 05:54:02 AM
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White people get really upset when young black men try and better their situation.
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Lmfao what ever made you assume i was white?! I’m actually Mexican...
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Even if he was "Mexican", it would then be safe to assume that he, or his family prior left Mexico to find a better situation in America. THE ULTIMATE TEAM CHANGE.
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My pueblo in zacateca is nicer than ALL of southern CA. Im SERIOUSLy thinking about going back... yall mfers just let homeless shit and piss everywhere! Down in MC we dont tolerate that filth! I think they make tacos outta em 🤣
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It’s Zacatecas white...what color is you MAGAt hat
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RED just like every other one... #latinosfortrump... dont worry youll want to leave the slave plantation (dem party) one day too...
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Wait, they make tacos out of dirty homeless people? You sound like a complete idiot.
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Before you name call how about you do some research homie...

Can we come back to this? I'm still a little confused what I should be researching. Do I just google "making tacos out of homeless"? I did that and only got news stories about Taco Bell kicking out homeless women, and something about Baby Shark. Pls rspnd.
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Post by: Swithflip on September 23, 2019, 06:15:08 AM
Even Vicent Touz is on Venture now. But I dont switch my thunders for nothing.
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Post by: Cool Ceith on September 23, 2019, 07:31:12 AM
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I recall a particular B. Worrest part from a few months ago....May have changed some minds. I'm still stuck on indy's but want to give ace or thunder a try

Do it
Do it
Do it
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: 50mm on September 23, 2019, 07:37:07 AM
I always find myself trying to be the voice of reason. See if you take a step back and think about this you should be able to realize, who gives a fuck?
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Post by: Christmas Complete on September 23, 2019, 07:41:31 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/AjnSRyZ.jpg)
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Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 23, 2019, 07:45:44 AM
I always find myself trying to be the voice of reason. See if you take a step back and think about this you should be able to realize, who gives a fuck?

I care.
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Post by: 50mm on September 23, 2019, 07:47:33 AM
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I always find myself trying to be the voice of reason. See if you take a step back and think about this you should be able to realize, who gives a fuck?
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I care.
Yeah but nobody cares about you, see?
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Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 23, 2019, 08:02:16 AM
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I always find myself trying to be the voice of reason. See if you take a step back and think about this you should be able to realize, who gives a fuck?
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I care.
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Yeah but nobody cares about you, see?
Clearly you do if you still respond to me.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Lowcalcium on September 23, 2019, 08:08:13 AM
I still fuck with venture   ;D

I have only ever skated Ventures and Independents, and both make quality trucks. Kader did nothing wrong switching from one company to the other.

Anyone remember at the end of the early 411's, it was the industry section where it showed pro's switching from one company to the next or starting their own company. Skaters switched company's back then so often, it got pretty confusing...Kader is doing nothing new and deserves to make any switch he desires
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Post by: 50mm on September 23, 2019, 08:17:06 AM
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I always find myself trying to be the voice of reason. See if you take a step back and think about this you should be able to realize, who gives a fuck?
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I care.
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Yeah but nobody cares about you, see?
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Clearly you do if you still respond to me.
Ya got me!
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: tedkootz on September 23, 2019, 09:12:50 AM
cant be mad at him for ditching the patriarchy
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Post by: silvertone_spacemachine on September 23, 2019, 11:29:19 AM
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LOVE ALL THE CONTEXT YOU GAVE HERE
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left emerica for vans
Left indy for venture
Left rvca for supreme

All in the past 12 months...

All seem like pretty good moves to me
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Post by: silvertone_spacemachine on September 23, 2019, 11:31:09 AM
Go birds
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Post by: CHONGO on September 23, 2019, 11:34:15 AM
venture is taking over
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Post by: GAY on September 23, 2019, 11:57:51 AM
Sad no one has been able to change OP's mind yet. He seemed so open-minded and willing to listen but now...
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Post by: Christmas Complete on September 23, 2019, 12:10:35 PM
Sad no one has been able to change OP's mind yet. He seemed so open-minded and willing to listen but now...

I feel like he's coming around, just needs a little more time. I mean, Latinos didn't join Trump overnight.
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Post by: GAY on September 23, 2019, 12:12:12 PM
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Sad no one has been able to change OP's mind yet. He seemed so open-minded and willing to listen but now...
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I feel like he's coming around, just needs a little more time. I mean, Latinos didn't join Trump overnight.

So true. But once they did, they realized it was all worth it!
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: DanCorteseFromMTVSports on September 23, 2019, 06:31:13 PM
All, I need everyone to stop this pettiness and focus on the real question:  Are they or are they not making tacos out of homeless people in Mexico?
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Post by: Christmas Complete on September 23, 2019, 06:42:14 PM
All, I need everyone to stop this pettiness and focus on the real question:  Are they or are they not making tacos out of homeless people in Mexico?

If you have to ask, you’re not ready for the answer my friend.
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Post by: DanCorteseFromMTVSports on September 23, 2019, 06:54:22 PM
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All, I need everyone to stop this pettiness and focus on the real question:  Are they or are they not making tacos out of homeless people in Mexico?
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If you have to ask, you’re not ready for the answer my friend.
(Me, yelling to the crowd as I'm carried away) IT'S PEOPLE!!!!! MEXICAN TACOS ARE MADE OUT OF PEOPLE!!!
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Post by: TD on September 23, 2019, 06:58:03 PM
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All, I need everyone to stop this pettiness and focus on the real question:  Are they or are they not making tacos out of homeless people in Mexico?
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If you have to ask, you’re not ready for the answer my friend.
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(Me, yelling to the crowd as I'm carried away) IT'S PEOPLE!!!!! MEXICAN TACOS ARE MADE OUT OF PEOPLE!!!

it's even in the guac dude
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Post by: 144p on September 23, 2019, 07:23:05 PM
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The 6.1 ventures turn very nicely.
People leave sponsors because either they got offered a better a deal or their friends either left said brand or are on another one.
Alex Olson referenced that when he left Vans.
It’s tough being on trips with people you don’t really click with.
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Alex Olson got kicked off Vans because they didn't want him to move to NYC while they were filming Propellor. Probably because he couldn't be relied upon to produce footage. It was around the time of Pretty Sweet, and he seemed pretty burnt out on filming big projects.
Oh, the way he referenced the situation on his 9 club made it sound like he didn't sign his contract and went to Nike. There always 2 sides to the story though.
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Post by: Xen on September 23, 2019, 07:23:26 PM
He's bumped up with each one and you are going to dogg him for that?

When he leaves Baker, tossing what The Boss did for him, then you can talk shit.
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Post by: Christmas Complete on September 23, 2019, 07:32:25 PM
He's bumped up with each one and you are going to dogg him for that?

When he leaves Baker, tossing what The Boss did for him, then you can talk shit.

I think he's absolutely leaving Baker for FA, and soon, just not before Baker 4 drops
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Post by: DannyDee on September 23, 2019, 07:41:11 PM
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The 6.1 ventures turn very nicely.
People leave sponsors because either they got offered a better a deal or their friends either left said brand or are on another one.
Alex Olson referenced that when he left Vans.
It’s tough being on trips with people you don’t really click with.
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Alex Olson got kicked off Vans because they didn't want him to move to NYC while they were filming Propellor. Probably because he couldn't be relied upon to produce footage. It was around the time of Pretty Sweet, and he seemed pretty burnt out on filming big projects.
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Oh, the way he referenced the situation on his 9 club made it sound like he didn't sign his contract and went to Nike. There always 2 sides to the story though.
He mentions it in his day in the life with Jenkem. At the very least they told him if he moved they weren't going to sponsor him. Possibly they didn't follow through with the threat and he went to Nike how you referenced later. It's not like he really had more homies on Nike though outside of BA, considering Dill and Ave were both on Vans at the time.
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Post by: too fakie on September 23, 2019, 08:13:57 PM
When I was 16, my first job was at Pizza Hut and it sucked.  I quit after 2 months.  Then I got a job sitting behind the counter in a small store that sold framed pictures.  I was able to bring my laptop to work, do homework, and listen to music.  Oh, and I got paid more.

Kader is doing the equivalent of quitting his first job.  Dude's a child.  Let him live.
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Post by: TheLurper on September 23, 2019, 08:46:30 PM
I'm surprised that anyone can be mad at Kader for making these moves. Especially the Emerica to Vans move, considering this was the same move Reynolds just made (I wonder if Reynolds encouraged this move).

Kader is amazing and I'm hoping he keeps a level head as he gets older. He could make a huge mark on skateboarding, he just needs to avoid the pitfalls that come with coming up at a young age.


P.S. I remember reaching 600 posts the other day, but I'm back to 600 again. What happened here? Was there a thread that recently got deleted?
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Post by: TD on September 23, 2019, 09:17:23 PM
In all fairness Kader hasn't done anything out of the ordinary. Like XEN said - when he quits baker for FA and tosses everything the boss has done out the window is a different story.

Right now though, who gives a shit if he left indy?
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Post by: Pete on September 23, 2019, 09:49:48 PM
imagine giving a shit. its just skateboarding lil dudes.

free max b
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Post by: 50mm on September 23, 2019, 10:08:02 PM
I'm surprised that anyone can be mad at Kader for making these moves. Especially the Emerica to Vans move, considering this was the same move Reynolds just made (I wonder if Reynolds encouraged this move).

Kader is amazing and I'm hoping he keeps a level head as he gets older. He could make a huge mark on skateboarding, he just needs to avoid the pitfalls that come with coming up at a young age.


P.S. I remember reaching 600 posts the other day, but I'm back to 600 again. What happened here? Was there a thread that recently got deleted?
Been a while since I posted on one of these types of messageboards, I think that will happen if someone deletes a thread that you posted in.
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Post by: TheLurper on September 23, 2019, 10:26:12 PM
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Been a while since I posted on one of these boards, I think that will happen if someone deletes a thread that you posted in.

I wonder what thread(s) got deleted and why.
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Post by: Yesterdays-pop on September 24, 2019, 04:02:16 AM
Caring what a 16 yr old rides is on some pedo shit.
Lots of white guilt in here
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Post by: SHIREFLIP on September 24, 2019, 06:04:28 AM
Caring what a 16 yr old rides is on some pedo shit.
Lots of white guilt in here

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Post by: Putaslocas on September 24, 2019, 07:11:08 AM
White people get really upset when young black men try and better their situation.


Nah nah nah gonna stop you right there. Were not playing the fucking race card just because no one else has yet...Sorry not sorry.
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Post by: HugeBodBoyle on September 24, 2019, 07:31:58 AM
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Nah nah nah gonna stop you right there. Were not playing the fucking race card just because no one else has yet...Sorry not sorry.

Interesting. It's not really all that different than the NBA. They put rules in place to "force" young black men to go to college before going to the NBA and getting potentially big money contracts, in the name of what exactly? In baseball, a much more "white" sport, one can and often does enter the professional ranks immediately out of high school. Same with hockey. Why is that? Why is it far more acceptable for white young men to make money over their non-white counterparts?
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Post by: DanTheDoucher on September 24, 2019, 07:42:48 AM
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Nah nah nah gonna stop you right there. Were not playing the fucking race card just because no one else has yet...Sorry not sorry.
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Interesting. It's not really all that different than the NBA. They put rules in place to "force" young black men to go to college before going to the NBA and getting potentially big money contracts, in the name of what exactly? In baseball, a much more "white" sport, one can and often does enter the professional ranks immediately out of high school. Same with hockey. Why is that? Why is it far more acceptable for white young men to make money over their non-white counterparts?

It's not a race thing. EVERY basketball player is required to go to college before joining the NBA, regardless of race.  It just so happens that black guys are just better at basketball. They didn't start that rule to punish black players.

Baseball is roughly half white. The other half is comprised of mostly hispanic/black/asian players. A lot of the best players in the league are black, hispanic, or asian. Also, you can be drafted out of high school, but it generally takes 4-5+ years to make it to the major leagues anyways. You spend a lot of time in the minors not making a ton of money.

Hockey is very white. That's true, but the best players in the NHL make less than half of what the best players in the NFL/NBA/MLB make.
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Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 24, 2019, 09:11:15 AM
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Fr why are so many skaters far left soy boys?!

Nah nah nah gonna stop you right there. Were not playing the fucking race card just because no one else has yet...Sorry not sorry.
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Post by: radcunt on September 24, 2019, 09:56:19 AM
Let the kid hustle. Skaters before brands, it’s like people don’t understand all these brands are bullshit to make money. Fuck em all and let skaters find their money.
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Post by: VHS ERA on September 24, 2019, 10:39:15 AM
The only move that would bum me out would be of Baker. I really don’t see the FA move happening like some of yall do.
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Post by: Lowcalcium on September 24, 2019, 10:53:38 AM
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He's bumped up with each one and you are going to dogg him for that?

When he leaves Baker, tossing what The Boss did for him, then you can talk shit.
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I think he's absolutely leaving Baker for FA, and soon, just not before Baker 4 drops

Kader is definitely not leaving Baker for FA. And if he does, it won't be for like another 5 years or so. Baker is his home and he loves to skate with the other Baker riders.

Reynolds if you haven't noticed is kinda of like a Father figure to him. I say that in the best possible way...Kader looks up to him for advice and validation
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Post by: os89 on September 24, 2019, 12:32:32 PM
The only move that would bum me out would be of Baker. I really don’t see the FA move happening like some of yall do.

Much rather my boss be, The Boss, than Dill for god damn sure.
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Post by: 50mm on September 24, 2019, 12:42:11 PM
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Much rather my boss be, The Boss, than Dill for god damn sure.
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Post by: HugeBodBoyle on September 24, 2019, 01:09:24 PM
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Nah nah nah gonna stop you right there. Were not playing the fucking race card just because no one else has yet...Sorry not sorry.
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Interesting. It's not really all that different than the NBA. They put rules in place to "force" young black men to go to college before going to the NBA and getting potentially big money contracts, in the name of what exactly? In baseball, a much more "white" sport, one can and often does enter the professional ranks immediately out of high school. Same with hockey. Why is that? Why is it far more acceptable for white young men to make money over their non-white counterparts?
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It's not a race thing. EVERY basketball player is required to go to college before joining the NBA, regardless of race.  It just so happens that black guys are just better at basketball. They didn't start that rule to punish black players.

Baseball is roughly half white. The other half is comprised of mostly hispanic/black/asian players. A lot of the best players in the league are black, hispanic, or asian. Also, you can be drafted out of high school, but it generally takes 4-5+ years to make it to the major leagues anyways. You spend a lot of time in the minors not making a ton of money.

Hockey is very white. That's true, but the best players in the NHL make less than half of what the best players in the NFL/NBA/MLB make.

lol "it just so happens to disproportionately affect black people because they are the ones that tend to move on to the NBA and thus in line to make millions."

How odd. Well, at least we know it has no connection at all to the deeply rooted systemic racism and prejudice which permeates nearly every facet of our culture.

Thank god.
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Nah nah nah gonna stop you right there. Were not playing the fucking race card just because no one else has yet...Sorry not sorry.
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Interesting. It's not really all that different than the NBA. They put rules in place to "force" young black men to go to college before going to the NBA and getting potentially big money contracts, in the name of what exactly? In baseball, a much more "white" sport, one can and often does enter the professional ranks immediately out of high school. Same with hockey. Why is that? Why is it far more acceptable for white young men to make money over their non-white counterparts?
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It's not a race thing. EVERY basketball player is required to go to college before joining the NBA, regardless of race.  It just so happens that black guys are just better at basketball. They didn't start that rule to punish black players.

Baseball is roughly half white. The other half is comprised of mostly hispanic/black/asian players. A lot of the best players in the league are black, hispanic, or asian. Also, you can be drafted out of high school, but it generally takes 4-5+ years to make it to the major leagues anyways. You spend a lot of time in the minors not making a ton of money.

Hockey is very white. That's true, but the best players in the NHL make less than half of what the best players in the NFL/NBA/MLB make.
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lol "it just so happens to disproportionately affect black people because they are the ones that tend to move on to the NBA and thus in line to make millions."

How odd. Well, at least we know it has no connection at all to the deeply rooted systemic racism and prejudice which permeates nearly every facet of our culture.

Thank god.

How is it racist if it affects EVERYONE that wants to play in the NBA? The rule would still exist if the NBA suddenly became disproportionately white.

People really need to stop looking for racism where it doesn't exist.
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Nah nah nah gonna stop you right there. Were not playing the fucking race card just because no one else has yet...Sorry not sorry.
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Interesting. It's not really all that different than the NBA. They put rules in place to "force" young black men to go to college before going to the NBA and getting potentially big money contracts, in the name of what exactly? In baseball, a much more "white" sport, one can and often does enter the professional ranks immediately out of high school. Same with hockey. Why is that? Why is it far more acceptable for white young men to make money over their non-white counterparts?
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It's not a race thing. EVERY basketball player is required to go to college before joining the NBA, regardless of race.  It just so happens that black guys are just better at basketball. They didn't start that rule to punish black players.

Baseball is roughly half white. The other half is comprised of mostly hispanic/black/asian players. A lot of the best players in the league are black, hispanic, or asian. Also, you can be drafted out of high school, but it generally takes 4-5+ years to make it to the major leagues anyways. You spend a lot of time in the minors not making a ton of money.

Hockey is very white. That's true, but the best players in the NHL make less than half of what the best players in the NFL/NBA/MLB make.
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lol "it just so happens to disproportionately affect black people because they are the ones that tend to move on to the NBA and thus in line to make millions."

How odd. Well, at least we know it has no connection at all to the deeply rooted systemic racism and prejudice which permeates nearly every facet of our culture.

Thank god.
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How is it racist if it affects EVERYONE that wants to play in the NBA? The rule would still exist if the NBA suddenly became disproportionately white.

People really need to stop looking for racism where it doesn't exist.
He’s saying that sometimes a general rule will be put in place if it predominantly effects black people. Which I agree does happen sometimes, but he’s full of shit on this when you consider that the NFL is full of predominantly black players. They are obvious racists so why wouldn’t they go for the same scheme.


And I probably shouldn’t have even said that but I can’t help myself.
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Post by: DanTheDoucher on September 24, 2019, 01:33:27 PM
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Nah nah nah gonna stop you right there. Were not playing the fucking race card just because no one else has yet...Sorry not sorry.
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Interesting. It's not really all that different than the NBA. They put rules in place to "force" young black men to go to college before going to the NBA and getting potentially big money contracts, in the name of what exactly? In baseball, a much more "white" sport, one can and often does enter the professional ranks immediately out of high school. Same with hockey. Why is that? Why is it far more acceptable for white young men to make money over their non-white counterparts?
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It's not a race thing. EVERY basketball player is required to go to college before joining the NBA, regardless of race.  It just so happens that black guys are just better at basketball. They didn't start that rule to punish black players.

Baseball is roughly half white. The other half is comprised of mostly hispanic/black/asian players. A lot of the best players in the league are black, hispanic, or asian. Also, you can be drafted out of high school, but it generally takes 4-5+ years to make it to the major leagues anyways. You spend a lot of time in the minors not making a ton of money.

Hockey is very white. That's true, but the best players in the NHL make less than half of what the best players in the NFL/NBA/MLB make.
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lol "it just so happens to disproportionately affect black people because they are the ones that tend to move on to the NBA and thus in line to make millions."

How odd. Well, at least we know it has no connection at all to the deeply rooted systemic racism and prejudice which permeates nearly every facet of our culture.

Thank god.
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How is it racist if it affects EVERYONE that wants to play in the NBA? The rule would still exist if the NBA suddenly became disproportionately white.

People really need to stop looking for racism where it doesn't exist.
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He’s saying that sometimes a general rule will be put in place if it predominantly effects black people. Which I agree does happen sometimes, but he’s full of shit on this when you consider that the NFL is full of predominantly black players and you can try out for it.

The rule wasn't put in place in order to hold black people back. It was put in place as an attempt to ensure that these kids (of all races) get some semblance of a real education before they are handed millions of dollars to participate in a career that may only last a few years.

Is it a coincidence that a very large percentage of players that never attended college are now essentially flat broke because they had nothing to fall back on when their sports career was over? I think not.

I would bet anyone that the ex-players who are now broke wished they would have been forced to go college first.

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Nah nah nah gonna stop you right there. Were not playing the fucking race card just because no one else has yet...Sorry not sorry.
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Interesting. It's not really all that different than the NBA. They put rules in place to "force" young black men to go to college before going to the NBA and getting potentially big money contracts, in the name of what exactly? In baseball, a much more "white" sport, one can and often does enter the professional ranks immediately out of high school. Same with hockey. Why is that? Why is it far more acceptable for white young men to make money over their non-white counterparts?
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It's not a race thing. EVERY basketball player is required to go to college before joining the NBA, regardless of race.  It just so happens that black guys are just better at basketball. They didn't start that rule to punish black players.

Baseball is roughly half white. The other half is comprised of mostly hispanic/black/asian players. A lot of the best players in the league are black, hispanic, or asian. Also, you can be drafted out of high school, but it generally takes 4-5+ years to make it to the major leagues anyways. You spend a lot of time in the minors not making a ton of money.

Hockey is very white. That's true, but the best players in the NHL make less than half of what the best players in the NFL/NBA/MLB make.
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lol "it just so happens to disproportionately affect black people because they are the ones that tend to move on to the NBA and thus in line to make millions."

How odd. Well, at least we know it has no connection at all to the deeply rooted systemic racism and prejudice which permeates nearly every facet of our culture.

Thank god.
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How is it racist if it affects EVERYONE that wants to play in the NBA? The rule would still exist if the NBA suddenly became disproportionately white.

People really need to stop looking for racism where it doesn't exist.
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He’s saying that sometimes a general rule will be put in place if it predominantly effects black people. Which I agree does happen sometimes, but he’s full of shit on this when you consider that the NFL is full of predominantly black players and you can try out for it.
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The rule wasn't put in place in order to hold black people back. It was put in place as an attempt to ensure that these kids (of all races) get some semblance of a real education before they are handed millions of dollars to participate in a career that may only last a few years.

Is it a coincidence that a very large percentage of players that never attended college are now essentially flat broke because they had nothing to fall back on when their sports career was over? I think not.

I would bet anyone that the ex-players who are now broke wished they would have been forced to go college first.

If it were racist, wouldn't the white establishment want to keep black people uneducated?
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Shalom Iginla on September 24, 2019, 01:44:15 PM
I thought NBA didn't require college. Is that a new rule?
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Post by: DanTheDoucher on September 24, 2019, 01:57:31 PM
I thought NBA didn't require college. Is that a new rule?

No. It's been in place since 2005 I believe.
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Nah nah nah gonna stop you right there. Were not playing the fucking race card just because no one else has yet...Sorry not sorry.
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Interesting. It's not really all that different than the NBA. They put rules in place to "force" young black men to go to college before going to the NBA and getting potentially big money contracts, in the name of what exactly? In baseball, a much more "white" sport, one can and often does enter the professional ranks immediately out of high school. Same with hockey. Why is that? Why is it far more acceptable for white young men to make money over their non-white counterparts?
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It's not a race thing. EVERY basketball player is required to go to college before joining the NBA, regardless of race.  It just so happens that black guys are just better at basketball. They didn't start that rule to punish black players.

Baseball is roughly half white. The other half is comprised of mostly hispanic/black/asian players. A lot of the best players in the league are black, hispanic, or asian. Also, you can be drafted out of high school, but it generally takes 4-5+ years to make it to the major leagues anyways. You spend a lot of time in the minors not making a ton of money.

Hockey is very white. That's true, but the best players in the NHL make less than half of what the best players in the NFL/NBA/MLB make.
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lol "it just so happens to disproportionately affect black people because they are the ones that tend to move on to the NBA and thus in line to make millions."

How odd. Well, at least we know it has no connection at all to the deeply rooted systemic racism and prejudice which permeates nearly every facet of our culture.

Thank god.
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How is it racist if it affects EVERYONE that wants to play in the NBA? The rule would still exist if the NBA suddenly became disproportionately white.

People really need to stop looking for racism where it doesn't exist.
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He’s saying that sometimes a general rule will be put in place if it predominantly effects black people. Which I agree does happen sometimes, but he’s full of shit on this when you consider that the NFL is full of predominantly black players and you can try out for it.
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The rule wasn't put in place in order to hold black people back. It was put in place as an attempt to ensure that these kids (of all races) get some semblance of a real education before they are handed millions of dollars to participate in a career that may only last a few years.

Is it a coincidence that a very large percentage of players that never attended college are now essentially flat broke because they had nothing to fall back on when their sports career was over? I think not.

I would bet anyone that the ex-players who are now broke wished they would have been forced to go college first.
Yeah I’m on the same side of this argument as you I’m just saying that it can happen in other areas of every day life. Rules put in place that effect everyone if they are especially harsh on a certain group. So I get what his argument was but I don’t believe that that’s what is actually happening here. Just trying to show I understand it happens.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on September 24, 2019, 03:19:13 PM
The NBA is unique in this because their players union lobbied successfully for guaranteed contracts, so you get your money no matter what. Whereas the NFL, which is its own weird set of really odd mandingo fighting issues, does not have such a contract structure so, if you're a running back and you blow out your knee in game 1 of your first season, too fucking bad.

It's racist because in just about any other profession (other than the NFL because of literal concerns for the physical safety of the human body, maybe) you could conceivably become an earning professional straight out of high school if you are skilled enough. Why do they insist on making people go to one year of college? To learn life skills? No. It is because if these dudes could go get paid right outta high school, then they would. And then people would lose interest in collegiate basketball, which by and large makes its millions off of the labor of an unpaid, largely black workforce. If the "good" players are going straight to the NBA, the product of the NCAA suffers.

Ergo...the rule.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: 50mm on September 24, 2019, 03:28:35 PM
The NBA is unique in this because their players union lobbied successfully for guaranteed contracts, so you get your money no matter what. Whereas the NFL, which is its own weird set of really odd mandingo fighting issues, does not have such a contract structure so, if you're a running back and you blow out your knee in game 1 of your first season, too fucking bad.

It's racist because in just about any other profession (other than the NFL because of literal concerns for the physical safety of the human body, maybe) you could conceivably become an earning professional straight out of high school if you are skilled enough. Why do they insist on making people go to one year of college? To learn life skills? No. It is because if these dudes could go get paid right outta high school, then they would. And then people would lose interest in collegiate basketball, which by and large makes its millions off of the labor of an unpaid, largely black workforce. If the "good" players are going straight to the NBA, the product of the NCAA suffers.

Ergo...the rule.
The way you explained it seems to me like the rules are in place specifically to protect the NCAA and not specifically to target black athletes. It again reminds me of the WWE. They were scouting Brock Lesnar in Olympic style wrestling they wanted to sign him but insisted he finish school before they made a deal even though he didn’t want to go to school. Their talent relations guy (Good Ol Jr) spoke about it recently and about how they prefer college educated wrestlers because of the widely known effects higher education has on many people, how the carry themselves, the effect it has on decision making etc.
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Post by: HugeBodBoyle on September 24, 2019, 03:32:22 PM
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The NBA is unique in this because their players union lobbied successfully for guaranteed contracts, so you get your money no matter what. Whereas the NFL, which is its own weird set of really odd mandingo fighting issues, does not have such a contract structure so, if you're a running back and you blow out your knee in game 1 of your first season, too fucking bad.

It's racist because in just about any other profession (other than the NFL because of literal concerns for the physical safety of the human body, maybe) you could conceivably become an earning professional straight out of high school if you are skilled enough. Why do they insist on making people go to one year of college? To learn life skills? No. It is because if these dudes could go get paid right outta high school, then they would. And then people would lose interest in collegiate basketball, which by and large makes its millions off of the labor of an unpaid, largely black workforce. If the "good" players are going straight to the NBA, the product of the NCAA suffers.

Ergo...the rule.
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The way you explained it seems to me like the rules are in place specifically to protect the NCAA and not specifically to target black athletes. It again reminds me of the WWE. They were scouting Brock Lesnar in Olympic style wrestling they wanted to sign him but insisted he finish school before they made a deal even though he didn’t want to go to school. Their talent relations guy (Good Ol Jr) spoke about it recently and about how they prefer college educated wrestlers because of the widely known effects higher education has on many people, how the carry themselves, the effect it has on decision making etc.

Exploiting black labor to enrich already wealthy people has been done before.
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Post by: 50mm on September 24, 2019, 03:41:54 PM
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The NBA is unique in this because their players union lobbied successfully for guaranteed contracts, so you get your money no matter what. Whereas the NFL, which is its own weird set of really odd mandingo fighting issues, does not have such a contract structure so, if you're a running back and you blow out your knee in game 1 of your first season, too fucking bad.

It's racist because in just about any other profession (other than the NFL because of literal concerns for the physical safety of the human body, maybe) you could conceivably become an earning professional straight out of high school if you are skilled enough. Why do they insist on making people go to one year of college? To learn life skills? No. It is because if these dudes could go get paid right outta high school, then they would. And then people would lose interest in collegiate basketball, which by and large makes its millions off of the labor of an unpaid, largely black workforce. If the "good" players are going straight to the NBA, the product of the NCAA suffers.

Ergo...the rule.
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The way you explained it seems to me like the rules are in place specifically to protect the NCAA and not specifically to target black athletes. It again reminds me of the WWE. They were scouting Brock Lesnar in Olympic style wrestling they wanted to sign him but insisted he finish school before they made a deal even though he didn’t want to go to school. Their talent relations guy (Good Ol Jr) spoke about it recently and about how they prefer college educated wrestlers because of the widely known effects higher education has on many people, how the carry themselves, the effect it has on decision making etc.
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Exploiting black labor to enrich already wealthy people has been done before.
Not arguing that at all but sports Organizations are notorious for treating their players like shit. There’s players strikes and shit like that in every major sport because of this kind of thing. I mean some guys don’t get to go straight to the NBA but that doesn’t mean there aren’t a ton of players of black players getting paid that ARE in the NBA. It’s not like every team has the payroll to just hire every body that has NBA level skills either. So I don’t see what it really does to keep black players specially locked out. Black players still dominate the NBA and probably always will. And as long as basketball is popular they are gonna get paid a ton.

They don’t have to pay a ton of money to NCAA players and that’s all that matters. Triple A baseball players don’t make any money either. If one dude doesn’t go to college and then never gets to go to the NBA, it’s not like there isn’t a thousand other dudes in line who will.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: TheLurper on September 24, 2019, 04:14:37 PM
They don’t have to pay a ton of money to NCAA players and that’s all that matters. Triple A baseball players don’t make any money either. If one dude doesn’t go to college and then never gets to go to the NBA, it’s not like there isn’t a thousand other dudes in line who will.

Forbes and Mother Jones both did articles on minor league baseball wages.

Starting wages in single A baseball is $1,100 per month (during the season) and $2,150 for AAA. However, some of the AAA players are doing pretty awesome since the mean average is 10K per month.

Also, I'm curious how many of these players have scholarships and play at universities as well. Does the NCAA allow baseball players to play in private leagues during the summer, if they play the regular season at school?


Finally, since we are super far off topic anyway, I'd like to see NCAA basketball leave the university altogether and just become minor league basketball OR I'd like to see all the coaches become unpaid "amateurs" as well. There is no reason the highest paid state employee is often some stupid coach, especially since most of the D-I schools lose money on their sports programs, hell, most lose money just on their "money making sport." (Also the point of university is the education not the sports.)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2018/03/26/the-fragile-economics-between-mlb-the-minors-and-the-minimum-wage-exemption/#79b8f56f3c21
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/baseball-broshuis-minor-league-wage-income/
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: 50mm on September 24, 2019, 04:24:58 PM
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They don’t have to pay a ton of money to NCAA players and that’s all that matters. Triple A baseball players don’t make any money either. If one dude doesn’t go to college and then never gets to go to the NBA, it’s not like there isn’t a thousand other dudes in line who will.
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Forbes and Mother Jones both did articles on minor league baseball wages.

Starting wages in single A baseball is $1,100 per month (during the season) and $2,150 for AAA. However, some of the AAA players are doing pretty awesome since the mean average is 10K per month.
I wonder if that 10k includes anyone playing in the AAA when they calculated it. You have a bunch of MLB guys in there when they come back from injuries or need to work on something. I remember Manny Ramirez was in there when I was watching a lot. He was either coming back from an injury or it was after he disgraced us and got popped for roids. But at the time I believe he had the highest ever baseball contract. He was destroying in AAA but that was probably right before he got busted.

I texted so much shit talking to my boss because Dodgers beat the Angels one night. Then I woke up to him blowing up my phone laughing because Manny was all over the news the next morning for steroids. Such a walk of shame coming in.
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Post by: links, pics, and quotes on September 24, 2019, 04:47:54 PM
P.S. I remember reaching 600 posts the other day, but I'm back to 600 again. What happened here? Was there a thread that recently got deleted?

Man who deleted the alva thread.. Wack
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Post by: Shalom Iginla on September 24, 2019, 04:52:30 PM
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No. It's been in place since 2005 I believe.

Makes sense, that's about the time I stopped giving a shit about basketball.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: itsyourdad on September 24, 2019, 06:02:44 PM
damn sick thread, crazy about kader tho
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: shitsandwich on September 24, 2019, 06:10:17 PM
The NBA is unique in this because their players union lobbied successfully for guaranteed contracts, so you get your money no matter what. Whereas the NFL, which is its own weird set of really odd mandingo fighting issues, does not have such a contract structure so, if you're a running back and you blow out your knee in game 1 of your first season, too fucking bad.

It's racist because in just about any other profession (other than the NFL because of literal concerns for the physical safety of the human body, maybe) you could conceivably become an earning professional straight out of high school if you are skilled enough. Why do they insist on making people go to one year of college? To learn life skills? No. It is because if these dudes could go get paid right outta high school, then they would. And then people would lose interest in collegiate basketball, which by and large makes its millions off of the labor of an unpaid, largely black workforce. If the "good" players are going straight to the NBA, the product of the NCAA suffers.

Ergo...the rule.

Sounds like you made a great point about how the NCAA would suffer if NBA allowed people straight out of high school. Isn’t it more just coincidental that the majority of people are black?
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Putaslocas on September 24, 2019, 07:44:26 PM
Guys..its simple...some of you are cool with him jumping sponsors to make his money and some of you are bummed hes not staying loyal..thats the discussion..not race. Yall digging too deep.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: 50mm on September 24, 2019, 08:01:20 PM
What if he just likes those brands, he's young, young kids like Supreme not RVCA. Lot's of people skate ventures these days, nobody was skating those when I was skating so maybe that's what he likes. Emerica to Vans, well the Boss did it too, and he's one of the most respected players in the game. If Emerica isn't doing well, and Vans is doing extremely well it might be worth it to just jump. Kids aren't wearing Emerica's out there either by the way. I did happen to see some kid wearing some nice Reynolds G6's about a week ago in the grocery store. It was also the first time I saw crazy track marks tracing every part of every vein on someone, he was with his parents, who were paying for a handle of vodka with change. But I've seen 30 pairs of vans since then.
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Post by: lampshade on September 24, 2019, 08:18:11 PM
I thought NBA didn't require college. Is that a new rule?

No.  College is not required, a player just has to be one year apart from their graduating class.  A lot of players have been making money in Europe (Spain, France, etc.) for a year, then going to the NBA.  It is a strange rule.
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Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 24, 2019, 08:52:55 PM
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The only move that would bum me out would be of Baker. I really don’t see the FA move happening like some of yall do.
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Much rather my boss be, The Boss, than Dill for god damn sure.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: DanTheDoucher on September 25, 2019, 07:59:51 AM

It's racist because in just about any other profession (other than the NFL because of literal concerns for the physical safety of the human body, maybe) you could conceivably become an earning professional straight out of high school if you are skilled enough. Why do they insist on making people go to one year of college? To learn life skills? No. It is because if these dudes could go get paid right outta high school, then they would. And then people would lose interest in collegiate basketball, which by and large makes its millions off of the labor of an unpaid, largely black workforce. If the "good" players are going straight to the NBA, the product of the NCAA suffers.


Literally nothing you have said here makes the rule racist.
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Post by: DanTheDoucher on September 25, 2019, 08:02:56 AM
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The NBA is unique in this because their players union lobbied successfully for guaranteed contracts, so you get your money no matter what. Whereas the NFL, which is its own weird set of really odd mandingo fighting issues, does not have such a contract structure so, if you're a running back and you blow out your knee in game 1 of your first season, too fucking bad.

It's racist because in just about any other profession (other than the NFL because of literal concerns for the physical safety of the human body, maybe) you could conceivably become an earning professional straight out of high school if you are skilled enough. Why do they insist on making people go to one year of college? To learn life skills? No. It is because if these dudes could go get paid right outta high school, then they would. And then people would lose interest in collegiate basketball, which by and large makes its millions off of the labor of an unpaid, largely black workforce. If the "good" players are going straight to the NBA, the product of the NCAA suffers.

Ergo...the rule.
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The way you explained it seems to me like the rules are in place specifically to protect the NCAA and not specifically to target black athletes. It again reminds me of the WWE. They were scouting Brock Lesnar in Olympic style wrestling they wanted to sign him but insisted he finish school before they made a deal even though he didn’t want to go to school. Their talent relations guy (Good Ol Jr) spoke about it recently and about how they prefer college educated wrestlers because of the widely known effects higher education has on many people, how the carry themselves, the effect it has on decision making etc.
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Exploiting black labor to enrich already wealthy people has been done before.

Yeah it was called slavery. I have a very hard time comparing slavery to paying someone $20 million a year to toss a ball into a net.

You are being so ridiculous at this point that it seems like you are trolling.
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Post by: DanTheDoucher on September 25, 2019, 08:04:04 AM
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No. It's been in place since 2005 I believe.
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Makes sense, that's about the time I stopped giving a shit about basketball.

I have never given a shit about basketball, but that's probably because Pittsburgh doesn't have an NBA team.
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Post by: DanTheDoucher on September 25, 2019, 08:05:29 AM
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No.  College is not required, a player just has to be one year apart from their graduating class.  A lot of players have been making money in Europe (Spain, France, etc.) for a year, then going to the NBA.  It is a strange rule.

Yes, this is actually true. The best high school players are better off going to college for a year though. Better competition and they get a year of college credits under their belt.
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Post by: 50mm on September 25, 2019, 08:12:25 AM
I need to watch more Hockey. I like it a lot but I never put enough effort into watching sports. Besides baseball post season. Need to stop fucking around and use more free tv apps at home.

We have a Mario Lemieux golf jersey thing in a casino out here from when he did a celebrity game out here. That’s as close as it gets. But as I write this I just remembered they are supposedly building a hockey arena out here and have already filed trademarks for an NHL expansion team so that would be sick.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: DanTheDoucher on September 25, 2019, 08:18:23 AM
I need to watch more Hockey. I like it a lot but I never put enough effort into watching sports. Besides baseball post season. Need to stop fucking around and use more free tv apps at home.

We have a Mario Lemieux golf jersey thing in a casino out here from when he did a celebrity game out here. That’s as close as it gets. But as I write this I just remembered they are supposedly building a hockey arena out here and have already filed trademarks for an NHL expansion team so that would be sick.

Where are you from? Seattle?
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Post by: 50mm on September 25, 2019, 08:25:02 AM
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I need to watch more Hockey. I like it a lot but I never put enough effort into watching sports. Besides baseball post season. Need to stop fucking around and use more free tv apps at home.

We have a Mario Lemieux golf jersey thing in a casino out here from when he did a celebrity game out here. That’s as close as it gets. But as I write this I just remembered they are supposedly building a hockey arena out here and have already filed trademarks for an NHL expansion team so that would be sick.
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Where are you from? Seattle?
Palm Springs. Probably won’t happen because this place always says they are gonna do some shit like this and it never happens. Not enough people here outside of winter anyways, and the ones that are here are elderly. I can drive a little over an hour and see an AHL team though. Which I should do in the next couple months. I just hate driving into the city.
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Post by: DanTheDoucher on September 25, 2019, 08:26:52 AM
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I need to watch more Hockey. I like it a lot but I never put enough effort into watching sports. Besides baseball post season. Need to stop fucking around and use more free tv apps at home.

We have a Mario Lemieux golf jersey thing in a casino out here from when he did a celebrity game out here. That’s as close as it gets. But as I write this I just remembered they are supposedly building a hockey arena out here and have already filed trademarks for an NHL expansion team so that would be sick.
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Where are you from? Seattle?
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Palm Springs. Probably won’t happen because this place always says they are gonna do some shit like this and it never happens. Not enough people here outside of winter anyways, and the ones that are here are elderly. I can drive a little over an hour and see an AHL team though. Which I should do in the next couple months. I just hate driving into the city.

Is that California or Florida? If it's Florida, the last thing you guys need is another NHL team.
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Post by: os89 on September 25, 2019, 08:28:11 AM
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I need to watch more Hockey. I like it a lot but I never put enough effort into watching sports. Besides baseball post season. Need to stop fucking around and use more free tv apps at home.

We have a Mario Lemieux golf jersey thing in a casino out here from when he did a celebrity game out here. That’s as close as it gets. But as I write this I just remembered they are supposedly building a hockey arena out here and have already filed trademarks for an NHL expansion team so that would be sick.
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Where are you from? Seattle?
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Palm Springs. Probably won’t happen because this place always says they are gonna do some shit like this and it never happens. Not enough people here outside of winter anyways, and the ones that are here are elderly. I can drive a little over an hour and see an AHL team though. Which I should do in the next couple months. I just hate driving into the city.
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Is that California or Florida? If it's Florida, the last thing you guys need is another NHL team.

He says no one there outside of winter and the elderly so Im guessing Florida.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: 50mm on September 25, 2019, 08:35:11 AM
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I need to watch more Hockey. I like it a lot but I never put enough effort into watching sports. Besides baseball post season. Need to stop fucking around and use more free tv apps at home.

We have a Mario Lemieux golf jersey thing in a casino out here from when he did a celebrity game out here. That’s as close as it gets. But as I write this I just remembered they are supposedly building a hockey arena out here and have already filed trademarks for an NHL expansion team so that would be sick.
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Where are you from? Seattle?
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Palm Springs. Probably won’t happen because this place always says they are gonna do some shit like this and it never happens. Not enough people here outside of winter anyways, and the ones that are here are elderly. I can drive a little over an hour and see an AHL team though. Which I should do in the next couple months. I just hate driving into the city.
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Is that California or Florida? If it's Florida, the last thing you guys need is another NHL team.
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He says no one there outside of winter and the elderly so Im guessing Florida.
Nope. California. It’s the same deal. I was actually looking at population yesterday for some reason and we are around 800,000 in winter and like 200,000 in summer.

People just fucking flood in here in winter, lots of rich people. This place isn’t made for that so it’s a nightmare.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Ocelot on September 25, 2019, 08:36:07 AM
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They don’t have to pay a ton of money to NCAA players and that’s all that matters. Triple A baseball players don’t make any money either. If one dude doesn’t go to college and then never gets to go to the NBA, it’s not like there isn’t a thousand other dudes in line who will.
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Forbes and Mother Jones both did articles on minor league baseball wages.

Starting wages in single A baseball is $1,100 per month (during the season) and $2,150 for AAA. However, some of the AAA players are doing pretty awesome since the mean average is 10K per month.

Also, I'm curious how many of these players have scholarships and play at universities as well. Does the NCAA allow baseball players to play in private leagues during the summer, if they play the regular season at school?


Finally, since we are super far off topic anyway, I'd like to see NCAA basketball leave the university altogether and just become minor league basketball OR I'd like to see all the coaches become unpaid "amateurs" as well. There is no reason the highest paid state employee is often some stupid coach, especially since most of the D-I schools lose money on their sports programs, hell, most lose money just on their "money making sport." (Also the point of university is the education not the sports.)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2018/03/26/the-fragile-economics-between-mlb-the-minors-and-the-minimum-wage-exemption/#79b8f56f3c21
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/baseball-broshuis-minor-league-wage-income/

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Post by: os89 on September 25, 2019, 08:40:04 AM
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I need to watch more Hockey. I like it a lot but I never put enough effort into watching sports. Besides baseball post season. Need to stop fucking around and use more free tv apps at home.

We have a Mario Lemieux golf jersey thing in a casino out here from when he did a celebrity game out here. That’s as close as it gets. But as I write this I just remembered they are supposedly building a hockey arena out here and have already filed trademarks for an NHL expansion team so that would be sick.
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Where are you from? Seattle?
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Palm Springs. Probably won’t happen because this place always says they are gonna do some shit like this and it never happens. Not enough people here outside of winter anyways, and the ones that are here are elderly. I can drive a little over an hour and see an AHL team though. Which I should do in the next couple months. I just hate driving into the city.
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Is that California or Florida? If it's Florida, the last thing you guys need is another NHL team.
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He says no one there outside of winter and the elderly so Im guessing Florida.
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Nope. California. It’s the same deal. I was actually looking at population yesterday for some reason and we are around 800,000 in winter and like 200,000 in summer.

People just fucking flood in here in winter, lots of rich people. This place isn’t made for that so it’s a nightmare.

Haha well I'll be god damned
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on September 25, 2019, 09:19:53 AM
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The NBA is unique in this because their players union lobbied successfully for guaranteed contracts, so you get your money no matter what. Whereas the NFL, which is its own weird set of really odd mandingo fighting issues, does not have such a contract structure so, if you're a running back and you blow out your knee in game 1 of your first season, too fucking bad.

It's racist because in just about any other profession (other than the NFL because of literal concerns for the physical safety of the human body, maybe) you could conceivably become an earning professional straight out of high school if you are skilled enough. Why do they insist on making people go to one year of college? To learn life skills? No. It is because if these dudes could go get paid right outta high school, then they would. And then people would lose interest in collegiate basketball, which by and large makes its millions off of the labor of an unpaid, largely black workforce. If the "good" players are going straight to the NBA, the product of the NCAA suffers.

Ergo...the rule.
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The way you explained it seems to me like the rules are in place specifically to protect the NCAA and not specifically to target black athletes. It again reminds me of the WWE. They were scouting Brock Lesnar in Olympic style wrestling they wanted to sign him but insisted he finish school before they made a deal even though he didn’t want to go to school. Their talent relations guy (Good Ol Jr) spoke about it recently and about how they prefer college educated wrestlers because of the widely known effects higher education has on many people, how the carry themselves, the effect it has on decision making etc.
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Exploiting black labor to enrich already wealthy people has been done before.
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Yeah it was called slavery. I have a very hard time comparing slavery to paying someone $20 million a year to toss a ball into a net.

You are being so ridiculous at this point that it seems like you are trolling.

I must have missed the part where NCAA basketball players are paid $20 million a year.

The lack of reading comprehension in here is like a troll unto itself.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: DanTheDoucher on September 25, 2019, 09:28:20 AM
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The NBA is unique in this because their players union lobbied successfully for guaranteed contracts, so you get your money no matter what. Whereas the NFL, which is its own weird set of really odd mandingo fighting issues, does not have such a contract structure so, if you're a running back and you blow out your knee in game 1 of your first season, too fucking bad.

It's racist because in just about any other profession (other than the NFL because of literal concerns for the physical safety of the human body, maybe) you could conceivably become an earning professional straight out of high school if you are skilled enough. Why do they insist on making people go to one year of college? To learn life skills? No. It is because if these dudes could go get paid right outta high school, then they would. And then people would lose interest in collegiate basketball, which by and large makes its millions off of the labor of an unpaid, largely black workforce. If the "good" players are going straight to the NBA, the product of the NCAA suffers.

Ergo...the rule.
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The way you explained it seems to me like the rules are in place specifically to protect the NCAA and not specifically to target black athletes. It again reminds me of the WWE. They were scouting Brock Lesnar in Olympic style wrestling they wanted to sign him but insisted he finish school before they made a deal even though he didn’t want to go to school. Their talent relations guy (Good Ol Jr) spoke about it recently and about how they prefer college educated wrestlers because of the widely known effects higher education has on many people, how the carry themselves, the effect it has on decision making etc.
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Exploiting black labor to enrich already wealthy people has been done before.
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Yeah it was called slavery. I have a very hard time comparing slavery to paying someone $20 million a year to toss a ball into a net.

You are being so ridiculous at this point that it seems like you are trolling.
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I must have missed the part where NCAA basketball players are paid $20 million a year.

The lack of reading comprehension in here is like a troll unto itself.

You are correct. I did mis-read that, but then again, I'm a moron.

College athletes who generate millions per year for universities should absolutely be paid for their services, but you would still find it racist if the black players weren't making as much as the white guy that signs their checks.

Do you have a problem with companies that are run by black people but employ white people? Isn't that the same thing? One person of a particular race profiting off of someone of a different race?

Also, these sports/jobs are not being forced upon any of these people. If a guy has a problem with having to sit out a year before he can join the NBA, then he can choose a different career.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on September 25, 2019, 09:39:01 AM
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The NBA is unique in this because their players union lobbied successfully for guaranteed contracts, so you get your money no matter what. Whereas the NFL, which is its own weird set of really odd mandingo fighting issues, does not have such a contract structure so, if you're a running back and you blow out your knee in game 1 of your first season, too fucking bad.

It's racist because in just about any other profession (other than the NFL because of literal concerns for the physical safety of the human body, maybe) you could conceivably become an earning professional straight out of high school if you are skilled enough. Why do they insist on making people go to one year of college? To learn life skills? No. It is because if these dudes could go get paid right outta high school, then they would. And then people would lose interest in collegiate basketball, which by and large makes its millions off of the labor of an unpaid, largely black workforce. If the "good" players are going straight to the NBA, the product of the NCAA suffers.

Ergo...the rule.
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The way you explained it seems to me like the rules are in place specifically to protect the NCAA and not specifically to target black athletes. It again reminds me of the WWE. They were scouting Brock Lesnar in Olympic style wrestling they wanted to sign him but insisted he finish school before they made a deal even though he didn’t want to go to school. Their talent relations guy (Good Ol Jr) spoke about it recently and about how they prefer college educated wrestlers because of the widely known effects higher education has on many people, how the carry themselves, the effect it has on decision making etc.
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Exploiting black labor to enrich already wealthy people has been done before.
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Yeah it was called slavery. I have a very hard time comparing slavery to paying someone $20 million a year to toss a ball into a net.

You are being so ridiculous at this point that it seems like you are trolling.
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I must have missed the part where NCAA basketball players are paid $20 million a year.

The lack of reading comprehension in here is like a troll unto itself.
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You are correct. I did mis-read that, but then again, I'm a moron.

College athletes who generate millions per year for universities should absolutely be paid for their services, but you would still find it racist if the black players weren't making as much as the white guy that signs their checks.

Do you have a problem with companies that are run by black people but employ white people? Isn't that the same thing? One person of a particular race profiting off of someone of a different race?

Also, these sports/jobs are not being forced upon any of these people. If a guy has a problem with having to sit out a year before he can join the NBA, then he can choose a different career.

Understanding and acceptance of the reality of institutional racism are essentially table stakes in this discussion. The argument "well what about black people employing white people" only works in a vacuum where the practice of slavery, Jim Crow, and segregation never existed.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: DanTheDoucher on September 25, 2019, 10:44:10 AM
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The NBA is unique in this because their players union lobbied successfully for guaranteed contracts, so you get your money no matter what. Whereas the NFL, which is its own weird set of really odd mandingo fighting issues, does not have such a contract structure so, if you're a running back and you blow out your knee in game 1 of your first season, too fucking bad.

It's racist because in just about any other profession (other than the NFL because of literal concerns for the physical safety of the human body, maybe) you could conceivably become an earning professional straight out of high school if you are skilled enough. Why do they insist on making people go to one year of college? To learn life skills? No. It is because if these dudes could go get paid right outta high school, then they would. And then people would lose interest in collegiate basketball, which by and large makes its millions off of the labor of an unpaid, largely black workforce. If the "good" players are going straight to the NBA, the product of the NCAA suffers.

Ergo...the rule.
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The way you explained it seems to me like the rules are in place specifically to protect the NCAA and not specifically to target black athletes. It again reminds me of the WWE. They were scouting Brock Lesnar in Olympic style wrestling they wanted to sign him but insisted he finish school before they made a deal even though he didn’t want to go to school. Their talent relations guy (Good Ol Jr) spoke about it recently and about how they prefer college educated wrestlers because of the widely known effects higher education has on many people, how the carry themselves, the effect it has on decision making etc.
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Exploiting black labor to enrich already wealthy people has been done before.
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Yeah it was called slavery. I have a very hard time comparing slavery to paying someone $20 million a year to toss a ball into a net.

You are being so ridiculous at this point that it seems like you are trolling.
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I must have missed the part where NCAA basketball players are paid $20 million a year.

The lack of reading comprehension in here is like a troll unto itself.
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You are correct. I did mis-read that, but then again, I'm a moron.

College athletes who generate millions per year for universities should absolutely be paid for their services, but you would still find it racist if the black players weren't making as much as the white guy that signs their checks.

Do you have a problem with companies that are run by black people but employ white people? Isn't that the same thing? One person of a particular race profiting off of someone of a different race?

Also, these sports/jobs are not being forced upon any of these people. If a guy has a problem with having to sit out a year before he can join the NBA, then he can choose a different career.
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The argument "well what about black people employing white people" only works in a vacuum where the practice of slavery, Jim Crow, and segregation never existed.

This conversation is an incredible waste of time for both of us.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on September 25, 2019, 11:12:28 AM
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The NBA is unique in this because their players union lobbied successfully for guaranteed contracts, so you get your money no matter what. Whereas the NFL, which is its own weird set of really odd mandingo fighting issues, does not have such a contract structure so, if you're a running back and you blow out your knee in game 1 of your first season, too fucking bad.

It's racist because in just about any other profession (other than the NFL because of literal concerns for the physical safety of the human body, maybe) you could conceivably become an earning professional straight out of high school if you are skilled enough. Why do they insist on making people go to one year of college? To learn life skills? No. It is because if these dudes could go get paid right outta high school, then they would. And then people would lose interest in collegiate basketball, which by and large makes its millions off of the labor of an unpaid, largely black workforce. If the "good" players are going straight to the NBA, the product of the NCAA suffers.

Ergo...the rule.
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The way you explained it seems to me like the rules are in place specifically to protect the NCAA and not specifically to target black athletes. It again reminds me of the WWE. They were scouting Brock Lesnar in Olympic style wrestling they wanted to sign him but insisted he finish school before they made a deal even though he didn’t want to go to school. Their talent relations guy (Good Ol Jr) spoke about it recently and about how they prefer college educated wrestlers because of the widely known effects higher education has on many people, how the carry themselves, the effect it has on decision making etc.
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Exploiting black labor to enrich already wealthy people has been done before.
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Yeah it was called slavery. I have a very hard time comparing slavery to paying someone $20 million a year to toss a ball into a net.

You are being so ridiculous at this point that it seems like you are trolling.
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I must have missed the part where NCAA basketball players are paid $20 million a year.

The lack of reading comprehension in here is like a troll unto itself.
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You are correct. I did mis-read that, but then again, I'm a moron.

College athletes who generate millions per year for universities should absolutely be paid for their services, but you would still find it racist if the black players weren't making as much as the white guy that signs their checks.

Do you have a problem with companies that are run by black people but employ white people? Isn't that the same thing? One person of a particular race profiting off of someone of a different race?

Also, these sports/jobs are not being forced upon any of these people. If a guy has a problem with having to sit out a year before he can join the NBA, then he can choose a different career.
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The argument "well what about black people employing white people" only works in a vacuum where the practice of slavery, Jim Crow, and segregation never existed.
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This conversation is an incredible waste of time for both of us.

Cool. Take it easy.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Far from relevant on September 25, 2019, 11:43:33 AM
He is gonna leave for FA
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Post by: Ed boy on September 25, 2019, 11:47:31 AM
Free Trae the Tank
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Post by: DanTheDoucher on September 25, 2019, 12:04:55 PM
He is gonna leave for FA

I disagree.

I think he has mad respect for Reynolds. As someone said earlier in the thread, Kader views Reynolds as something of a father figure.
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Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 25, 2019, 04:26:15 PM
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He is gonna leave for FA
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I disagree.



I think he has mad respect for Reynolds. As someone said earlier in the thread, Kader views Reynolds as something of a father figure.

Did you respect your father and do every wish he requested at 16?
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Pete on September 25, 2019, 04:32:58 PM
yall be on some real weird shit in here.

reynolds basically turned him pro overnight when he got on supreme and was posting pictures with FA and antihero boards every day. he saw what dill was about to do. thats the end of it.

free max b
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: jesus horse on September 25, 2019, 05:20:36 PM
"He's young"  That hall pass is about to run out REAL quick.
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Post by: GollyIamGully on September 26, 2019, 12:06:42 AM
yall be on some real weird shit in here.

reynolds basically turned him pro overnight when he got on supreme and was posting pictures with FA and antihero boards every day. he saw what dill was about to do. thats the end of it.

free max b

Pete just walkin around here making all kinds of sense.  Maybe we should free Max b too.
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Post by: Dr-Feelgood on September 26, 2019, 01:27:06 AM
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He is gonna leave for FA
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I disagree.



I think he has mad respect for Reynolds. As someone said earlier in the thread, Kader views Reynolds as something of a father figure.
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Did you respect your father and do every wish he requested at 16?

If you were my dad i'd take a shit in your bed
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Post by: SHIREFLIP on September 26, 2019, 05:10:35 AM
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He is gonna leave for FA
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I disagree.



I think he has mad respect for Reynolds. As someone said earlier in the thread, Kader views Reynolds as something of a father figure.
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Did you respect your father and do every wish he requested at 16?

Yes. The Major was frightening.
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Post by: DanTheDoucher on September 26, 2019, 05:17:47 AM
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He is gonna leave for FA
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I disagree.



I think he has mad respect for Reynolds. As someone said earlier in the thread, Kader views Reynolds as something of a father figure.
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Did you respect your father and do every wish he requested at 16?

My dad died when I was 15 (not that you would have any reason to already know that), but up until then, basically.

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Post by: SHIREFLIP on September 26, 2019, 05:23:44 AM
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He is gonna leave for FA
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I disagree.



I think he has mad respect for Reynolds. As someone said earlier in the thread, Kader views Reynolds as something of a father figure.
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Did you respect your father and do every wish he requested at 16?
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My dad died when I was 15 (not that you would have any reason to already know that), but up until then, basically.

Sorry to hear it, homie. I was 19.
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Post by: DanTheDoucher on September 26, 2019, 06:07:11 AM
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He is gonna leave for FA
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I disagree.



I think he has mad respect for Reynolds. As someone said earlier in the thread, Kader views Reynolds as something of a father figure.
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Did you respect your father and do every wish he requested at 16?
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My dad died when I was 15 (not that you would have any reason to already know that), but up until then, basically.
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Sorry to hear it, homie. I was 19.

My dad had cancer for like 2 years so it wasn't a shock, but that didn't make it any easier. Greatest guy I've ever known.
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Post by: Pissedoff30y/oskatedad on September 26, 2019, 06:47:48 PM
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I disagree.



I think he has mad respect for Reynolds. As someone said earlier in the thread, Kader views Reynolds as something of a father figure.
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Did you respect your father and do every wish he requested at 16?
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My dad died when I was 15 (not that you would have any reason to already know that), but up until then, basically.
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Sorry to hear it, homie. I was 19.
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My dad had cancer for like 2 years so it wasn't a shock, but that didn't make it any easier. Greatest guy I've ever known.
I lost my father at 13 to cancer as well
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Post by: V.I. Lenin on September 27, 2019, 09:34:44 AM
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LOVE ALL THE CONTEXT YOU GAVE HERE
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left emerica for vans
Left indy for venture
Left rvca for supreme

All in the past 12 months...
Emerica, indy and rvca are like old guys companies, not good look for a young loose cannon
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Chumbo on April 06, 2020, 10:46:20 PM
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He is gonna leave for FA
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I disagree.

I think he has mad respect for Reynolds. As someone said earlier in the thread, Kader views Reynolds as something of a father figure.
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Did you respect your father and do every wish he requested at 16?
When you fuck with Baker, that’s what you get.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-f4qznjImS/?igshid=k350u2wi4wyb (https://www.instagram.com/p/B-f4qznjImS/?igshid=k350u2wi4wyb)
(https://i.imgur.com/Wv6hwnR.png)
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Davethedavedave on April 06, 2020, 10:53:12 PM
Yeah who gives a fucking shit! Who cares what trucks anyone rides lol!
its the only thing in life worth caring about
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: urbneathme on April 06, 2020, 11:31:24 PM
i can’t believe in six pages of race bating no one could comprehend that the one year rule is to keep the ncaa afloat. it’s a billion dollar business that needs free employees (athletes) to play at an elite level to keep the ad dollars rolling in. if all the best talent goes pro, trey lose viewers and money. it’s really fucking simple
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Skart on April 06, 2020, 11:33:34 PM
Could see him on Tensor
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I disagree.



I think he has mad respect for Reynolds. As someone said earlier in the thread, Kader views Reynolds as something of a father figure.
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Did you respect your father and do every wish he requested at 16?
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My dad died when I was 15 (not that you would have any reason to already know that), but up until then, basically.
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Sorry to hear it, homie. I was 19.
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My dad had cancer for like 2 years so it wasn't a shock, but that didn't make it any easier. Greatest guy I've ever known.
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I lost my father at 13 to cancer as well

7 and my bro was 5

Stand up
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: hateboard on April 07, 2020, 04:20:01 AM
Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.
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Post by: Rune Spliffberg on April 07, 2020, 04:33:06 AM
Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.

um, hello? dime glory challenge tail drop?

FOCUS
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Post by: hateboard on April 07, 2020, 04:34:59 AM
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Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.
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um, hello? dime glory challenge tail drop?

FOCUS

You must be trolling, that dime drop is the ONLY thing ever mentioned about Kader, and it was 2 dimes ago. By using that to support him you may as well be shoveling the dirt on the grave yourself! I wouldn't worry, the word on the street is he is turning pro video gamer soon.
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Post by: Rune Spliffberg on April 07, 2020, 04:49:52 AM
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Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.
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um, hello? dime glory challenge tail drop?

FOCUS
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You must be trolling, that dime drop is the ONLY thing ever mentioned about Kader, and it was 2 dimes ago. By using that to support him you may as well be shoveling the dirt on the grave yourself! I wouldn't worry, the word on the street is he is turning pro video gamer soon.

he is still young with a full career ahead of him. seems like a nice guy, too, so he also has that going for him. You are a fool to think that's the end of Kader just because another young black man is good at skateboarding and has clout on instagram.

FOCUS.
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Post by: hateboard on April 07, 2020, 05:15:02 AM
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Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.
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um, hello? dime glory challenge tail drop?

FOCUS
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You must be trolling, that dime drop is the ONLY thing ever mentioned about Kader, and it was 2 dimes ago. By using that to support him you may as well be shoveling the dirt on the grave yourself! I wouldn't worry, the word on the street is he is turning pro video gamer soon.
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he is still young with a full career ahead of him. seems like a nice guy, too, so he also has that going for him. You are a fool to think that's the end of Kader just because another young black man is good at skateboarding and has clout on instagram.

FOCUS.

Skin color should have nothing to do with it, ask yourself why you are so loyal / faithful to him? Is it because Drew told you to be? Reynolds was hyped on Donta as well when Kader mania started, and where is he now? Just take a step back and judge people on their actual output not on the promise and hype being fed to you by ex pro skaters trying to be be visionaries. As Phelps said, Reynolds isn't the sharpest tool in the box. Kader is just another skater, he isn't the next Gino or Penny so stop hyping him as if he is some kind of landmark event. He isn't even worthy of this thread. When he drops a part with actual mind melting tricks (not just good for his age shit) then he has made it.

Fuck even saying FOCUS is a lame played out cliche, so I guess that fits.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: thebacker on April 07, 2020, 05:22:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3v7yqET7Ak
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Mike Oxwelling on April 07, 2020, 05:23:57 AM
People that type in caps that much are sociopaths.   Change my mind.
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Post by: thebacker on April 07, 2020, 05:36:20 AM
People that type in caps that much are sociopaths.   Change my mind.

caps lock is cruise control for the cool
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Post by: moonordie on April 07, 2020, 06:52:47 AM
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People that type in caps that much are sociopaths.   Change my mind.
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caps lock is cruise control for the cool mentally challenged.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: jerrygurneyscream on April 07, 2020, 07:38:41 AM
Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.

Lil dre??? lmao he started his career on vlone, hes basically just a clout rapper
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Post by: slippy on April 07, 2020, 08:27:20 AM
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Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.
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Lil dre??? lmao he started his career on vlone, hes basically just a clout rapper

Maxallure part was really good.  The way people come up has and will continue to change but cab back tail to forward in a line with good style?  Stoked to see him get better
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Ok on April 07, 2020, 09:58:54 AM
Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.

Kader for sure over hyped.





But please ‘splain this lil dre > kader comparison. I don’t see how they are linked.
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Post by: CuntWanker on December 21, 2020, 12:53:51 PM
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Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.
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Kader for sure over hyped.





But please ‘splain this lil dre > kader comparison. I don’t see how they are linked.
Is dre a guy or a girl? never managed to figure that one out
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: duniwayRobber on December 21, 2020, 01:17:01 PM
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Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.
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Kader for sure over hyped.

But please ‘splain this lil dre > kader comparison. I don’t see how they are linked.

Both have looked 12 since they come on the scene 8 years ago. Both have had their careers somewhat hyper-boosted by their 'coach' (Reynolds and Watson). Finally, both are black, which is the only true thing that defines a person's content...right?

While we are polling, I like Kader better since he seems to avoid that whole model-influencer persona that has taken over. That truck my push him over into that court though.
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Urtripping on December 21, 2020, 01:17:54 PM
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Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.
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Kader for sure over hyped.





But please ‘splain this lil dre > kader comparison. I don’t see how they are linked.
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Is dre a guy or a girl? never managed to figure that one out


What's it to ya?
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 21, 2020, 01:50:54 PM
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Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.
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Kader for sure over hyped.

But please ‘splain this lil dre > kader comparison. I don’t see how they are linked.
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Both have looked 12 since they come on the scene 8 years ago. Both have had their careers somewhat hyper-boosted by their 'coach' (Reynolds and Watson). Finally, both are black, which is the only true thing that defines a person's content...right?

While we are polling, I like Kader better since he seems to avoid that whole model-influencer persona that has taken over. That truck my push him over into that court though.

Karl gave Dre equity in the company. 


Are people maybe overhyping the Reynolds as sempai/kohai with Kader?   I doubt doubt he sees potential, but I think he just had more of a presence with Kader because he was a skate buddy with Stella
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Post by: JosephSmith on December 21, 2020, 03:49:27 PM
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Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.
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Kader for sure over hyped.

But please ‘splain this lil dre > kader comparison. I don’t see how they are linked.
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Both have looked 12 since they come on the scene 8 years ago. Both have had their careers somewhat hyper-boosted by their 'coach' (Reynolds and Watson). Finally, both are black, which is the only true thing that defines a person's content...right?

While we are polling, I like Kader better since he seems to avoid that whole model-influencer persona that has taken over. That truck my push him over into that court though.
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Karl gave Dre equity in the company. 


Are people maybe overhyping the Reynolds as sempai/kohai with Kader?   I doubt doubt he sees potential, but I think he just had more of a presence with Kader because he was a skate buddy with Stella

It’s “senpai”, ya dingus.
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Post by: duniwayRobber on December 21, 2020, 06:19:44 PM
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Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.
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Kader for sure over hyped.

But please ‘splain this lil dre > kader comparison. I don’t see how they are linked.
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Both have looked 12 since they come on the scene 8 years ago. Both have had their careers somewhat hyper-boosted by their 'coach' (Reynolds and Watson). Finally, both are black, which is the only true thing that defines a person's content...right?

While we are polling, I like Kader better since he seems to avoid that whole model-influencer persona that has taken over. That truck my push him over into that court though.
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Karl gave Dre equity in the company. 


Are people maybe overhyping the Reynolds as sempai/kohai with Kader?   I doubt doubt he sees potential, but I think he just had more of a presence with Kader because he was a skate buddy with Stella

Now that's what's up. Love to see it, I just thought Karl was in his corner.

I don't really have any insights/thoughts on Kader/Reynolds except that Andrew posts Kader-related content more regularly than he does of other team members. I mean, I don't have the data but I definitely see more of Kader than Zach.
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Post by: Theme For A Jackal on December 21, 2020, 06:31:05 PM
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Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.
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Kader for sure over hyped.

But please ‘splain this lil dre > kader comparison. I don’t see how they are linked.
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Both have looked 12 since they come on the scene 8 years ago. Both have had their careers somewhat hyper-boosted by their 'coach' (Reynolds and Watson). Finally, both are black, which is the only true thing that defines a person's content...right?

While we are polling, I like Kader better since he seems to avoid that whole model-influencer persona that has taken over. That truck my push him over into that court though.
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Karl gave Dre equity in the company. 


Are people maybe overhyping the Reynolds as sempai/kohai with Kader?   I doubt doubt he sees potential, but I think he just had more of a presence with Kader because he was a skate buddy with Stella
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Now that's what's up. Love to see it, I just thought Karl was in his corner.

I don't really have any insights/thoughts on Kader/Reynolds except that Andrew posts Kader-related content more regularly than he does of other team members. I mean, I don't have the data but I definitely see more of Kader than Zach.

Well yeah because Kader is way better and way more liked than Zach
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Post by: Brguy on December 21, 2020, 11:13:33 PM
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Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.
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Kader for sure over hyped.

But please ‘splain this lil dre > kader comparison. I don’t see how they are linked.
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Both have looked 12 since they come on the scene 8 years ago. Both have had their careers somewhat hyper-boosted by their 'coach' (Reynolds and Watson). Finally, both are black, which is the only true thing that defines a person's content...right?

While we are polling, I like Kader better since he seems to avoid that whole model-influencer persona that has taken over. That truck my push him over into that court though.
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Karl gave Dre equity in the company. 


Are people maybe overhyping the Reynolds as sempai/kohai with Kader?   I doubt doubt he sees potential, but I think he just had more of a presence with Kader because he was a skate buddy with Stella
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Now that's what's up. Love to see it, I just thought Karl was in his corner.

I don't really have any insights/thoughts on Kader/Reynolds except that Andrew posts Kader-related content more regularly than he does of other team members. I mean, I don't have the data but I definitely see more of Kader than Zach.
Maybe zach is only on the team because he had the limk whithc kjader.
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Post by: Atiba Applebum on December 22, 2020, 03:49:53 AM
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Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.
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Kader for sure over hyped.

But please ‘splain this lil dre > kader comparison. I don’t see how they are linked.
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Both have looked 12 since they come on the scene 8 years ago. Both have had their careers somewhat hyper-boosted by their 'coach' (Reynolds and Watson). Finally, both are black, which is the only true thing that defines a person's content...right?

While we are polling, I like Kader better since he seems to avoid that whole model-influencer persona that has taken over. That truck my push him over into that court though.
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Karl gave Dre equity in the company. 


Are people maybe overhyping the Reynolds as sempai/kohai with Kader?   I doubt doubt he sees potential, but I think he just had more of a presence with Kader because he was a skate buddy with Stella
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It’s “senpai”, ya dingus.

It’s been a while since I watched Rising Sun
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: JANUS on December 22, 2020, 08:07:48 AM
Let’s not forget the OP promised us a flailing Funkhouser flying down a famous flight to finish the fourth Baker film.
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Post by: PatrickSkateman on December 22, 2020, 08:10:50 AM
Lol, there’s not a whole lot of money to be made in professional skateboarding. You do you Kader.
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Post by: Hombreezy on December 22, 2020, 10:11:19 AM
Let’s not forget the OP promised us a flailing Funkhouser flying down a famous flight to finish the fourth Baker film.
Late shuv el toro. T Funk last part in baker 5 (2032)
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Post by: nineLives on December 31, 2020, 11:31:45 PM
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LOVE ALL THE CONTEXT YOU GAVE HERE
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left emerica for vans
Left indy for venture
Left rvca for supreme

All in the past 12 months...
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: Croquet temper on January 01, 2021, 03:20:35 AM
I like Kader and I even have his swirls deck, but I would be nervous to dump Vans like that. I like to play it safe. If I had a “skate career” 99% of my energy would be focused on just not blowing it or ruing any goodwill between sponsors.
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Post by: christ0v on January 01, 2021, 04:00:44 AM
Did he left vans for nike?
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Post by: Pete on January 01, 2021, 05:24:36 AM
hes flow for nike and adidas both. theyre waiting for him to post on instagram who he wants to be paid by



free max b
Title: Re: KADER is a TRAITOR (change my mind)
Post by: christ0v on January 01, 2021, 09:02:12 AM
 Yeah I just saw that he's wearing adidas in his last post. Well good for him i guess
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Post by: TurdyBird on January 01, 2021, 09:49:52 AM
Instead of getting pimped by the industry, Kader trying to pimp the industry. He learned it from Drew likely. Ya'll jussss hating!!!
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Post by: ChrisSennsGirlfriend on January 01, 2021, 06:36:32 PM
Really? We are still talking about Kader? The kid had his shot, he blew it, the honeymoon is over. New rippers like Lil Dre destroy him. Kader will go down as the most overhyped non-event in skate history.

how did he hurt you? steal your identity? call your wife ugly? not use a coaster?