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Title: SOBRIETY
Post by: FUCKINGLOUD on September 23, 2019, 09:55:41 AM
DECIDED TODAY TO STOP DRINKING FOR A FEW MONTHS. DONT DRINK HEAVILY OR TOO OFTEN BUT DO SOCIALLY AND DONT WANT A CRUTCH ANYMORE.

ANYONE ELSE SOBER UP AND CAN SHARE THE GOOD AND BAD FROM WHAT THEYVE EXPERIENCED?
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Post by: iKobrakai on September 23, 2019, 10:14:37 AM
6+ years. Had no choice but to.
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Post by: Thom on September 23, 2019, 10:19:53 AM
I did 2 years but I drink again.


Itís nice to step away and regain some perspective you might have lost growing up getting high and drunk all the time
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Post by: 50mm on September 23, 2019, 10:22:54 AM
Drank too much when I was young. Started smoking weed regulary and hardly ever drink now. Like I donít think Iíve finished a drink this year.

For a while weed was sort of a problem but I had some other shit I wasnít addressing. Now Iím With a great girl who absolutely hates weed and all drugs but was willing to let me try cbd type shit before getting on medication again because I hate medication and she worries about it too. Now things have been great. She is happy about my mood and interest in life And us. Iím happier. I was sneaking around smoking around her before and I hated that feeling. Now she tells me to take a hit and relax and itís cool lol. Iíve also learned how much more I enjoy smoking (actually vaping, yeah it feels lame) weed with lower thc levels in it. It feels like Benzos because my anxiety goes away but I donít feel regular and drunk like benzos make me. It doesnít make me all weird feeling. 
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Post by: baggy spandex on September 23, 2019, 10:43:55 AM
bump when sober
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Post by: FUCKINGLOUD on September 23, 2019, 11:29:02 AM
I HAD A ROUGH PATCH YEARS AGO WHERE ID PARTY WAY TOO MUCH, HAD TO TAKE A STEP BACK FROM EVERYTHING. PSYCHOLOGICALLY, I DON'T THINK I CAN NECESSARILY USE THAT PERIOD AS A TIME TO GAUGE WHAT BEING TOTALLY SOBER FELT LIKE AS I WAS COMING OFF OF A LOT OF SHIT.

IVE SET A GOAL FOR CHRISTMAS EVE TO NOT DRINK AT ALL, WHICH WILL BE INSANELY DIFFICULT GIVEN ALL THE BULLSHIT I HAVE COMING UP WHERE A DRINK WOULD FIT NICELY (IN-LAWS MEETING FAMILY AND IN-LAWS DONT SPEAK A WORD OF ENGLISH, MY FAMILY IS A BUNCH OF IRISH FUCKS)

SOBER BUMP
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Post by: straight on September 23, 2019, 11:35:51 AM
are you gonna seriously post in all caps as your thing
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Post by: iKobrakai on September 23, 2019, 11:42:22 AM
are you gonna seriously post in all caps as your thing

Yeah, I think 5inchdick does that.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: FUCKINGLOUD on September 23, 2019, 11:43:04 AM
are you gonna seriously post in all caps as your thing

SORRY HARD OF HEARING AND AM FUCKING LOUD
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: FUCKINGLOUD on September 23, 2019, 11:44:10 AM
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Yeah, I think 5inchdick does that.

SOUNDS LIKE A STRONG ALPHA MALE WHO I CAN GET FUCKING LOUD WITH
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: WastedHippy on September 23, 2019, 03:10:10 PM
Do you get full blown wasted at these social situations/events or ?
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Post by: Algar on September 23, 2019, 05:11:07 PM
Turned 35 a week ago, a few days before my birthday decided to take a year off of alchohol.  10 days in and the first few days were hard, now I'm feeling pretty good but I think it could get hard again. I'm coming off drinking 4 or 5 beers every night sometimes more.  hopefully I make it the year and then I'll take it from there and see if I wanna try to moderate or just stay sober.  I might get a little weed for the weekends or something.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: SneakySecrets on September 23, 2019, 05:34:51 PM
I THINK THAT ITS ADMIRABLE THAT YOU ARE PROACTIVELY TAKING STEPS TOWARDS LIVING THE LIFE YOUVE ALWAYS WANTED TO LIVE AND BE THE PERSON YOU ALWAYS WANTED TO BE.

AND ISNT THIS CONSTANT PURSUIT OF PERFECTION AND SELF-ACTUALIZATION WHAT SEPARATES MAN FROM BEAST?
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Rick_Kane on September 23, 2019, 06:38:23 PM
OP gunning for the worst poster on Slap title. He's got a lot of competition, though. I give him one week tops before his next drink.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: 50mm on September 23, 2019, 06:47:29 PM
OP gunning for the worst poster on Slap title. He's got a lot of competition, though. I give him one week tops before his next drink.
I like the it, makes me laugh. The dad guy who keeps starting new topics is in the running though.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: FUCKINGLOUD on September 23, 2019, 07:52:39 PM
OP gunning for the worst poster on Slap title. He's got a lot of competition, though. I give him one week tops before his next drink.

RICK I TRIED TO DM YOU FOR TIPS BUT YOU WONT TAKE MY MESSAGES

I THINK ILL BE ABLE TO HOLD STRONG ON NOT DRINKING UNTIL XMAS. IN SOME SICK TWIST IF FATE, THE ONLY TIME I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO DRINK IS WHEN IM WITH MY FAMILY. WORK PARTIES AND SOCIALIZING WITH FRIENDS I COULD CARE LESS

SOBER BUMP I DRANK GINGERALE INSTEAD OF BOURBON TONIGHT
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on September 23, 2019, 08:58:40 PM
I think I've posted about it before, but I'm almost two years totally sober. Last drink was in October 2017.

I mean, I never really had a full-blown problem, but I drank regularly since I was 17. I mainly stopped because I got married and my wife is religious and has never done drugs or drank. She jokes about drinking wine but I don't want to even hear about it.

Also - for me, putting aside the religious/cultural points, drinking stressed me out. I got overly concerned about its long-term effects to my equilibrium and memory, and it's also a stressor due to how it sucks up money. And I'm getting older and have never been really financially stable, so I just started to feel like a loser. The value of giving it up is more mentally, psychologically beneficial.

To be totally honest, when I'm really low and depressed I want to drink still. And it's still a struggle not to get some beer. I miss beer. I even miss the beer thread on Slap. But its arbitrary nature is easier to remember than before.
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Post by: AssFlea on September 23, 2019, 10:19:16 PM
https://youtu.be/kVdiJnjxg_Y
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: 50mm on September 23, 2019, 10:28:20 PM
I think I've posted about it before, but I'm almost two years totally sober. Last drink was in October 2017.

I mean, I never really had a full-blown problem, but I drank regularly since I was 17. I mainly stopped because I got married and my wife is religious and has never done drugs or drank. She jokes about drinking wine but I don't want to even hear about it.

Also - for me, putting aside the religious/cultural points, drinking stressed me out. I got overly concerned about its long-term effects to my equilibrium and memory, and it's also a stressor due to how it sucks up money. And I'm getting older and have never been really financially stable, so I just started to feel like a loser. The value of giving it up is more mentally, psychologically beneficial.

To be totally honest, when I'm really low and depressed I want to drink still. And it's still a struggle not to get some beer. I miss beer. I even miss the beer thread on Slap. But its arbitrary nature is easier to remember than before.
That's where you gotta be careful.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Dr-Feelgood on September 23, 2019, 11:25:00 PM
I spent 4 + years in canada where i was drinking quite alot every weekend, ever since i got back to Australia ive chilled on it a bit, its nice to recharge a bit, wake up fresh without hangovers on weekend
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Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on September 24, 2019, 10:00:02 AM
I spent 4 + years in canada where i was drinking quite alot every weekend, ever since i got back to Australia ive chilled on it a bit, its nice to recharge a bit, wake up fresh without hangovers on weekend

That's crazy! 4 years in Canada and you only drank on weekends, good for you!

Its completely normal in Canada to drink every day, and not small amounts either.

If you drink 24 cans of beer a day that's considered pretty normal.

Anyhow, I quit drinking about 2-3 years ago. I'm happy I did for many reasons. As you get older it's just not worth it.

I've had a beer now and again but I cant even finish one without thinking it's not that good anymore and I just dont finish it.

Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Handwrecker on September 24, 2019, 11:33:33 AM
I stopped drinking ~5 years back. It had turned into a huge, routine waste of money, made me fucking fat, feel like shit after and I could be a real asshole some nights.

There was no exact date or anything, donít consider it an xStraightEdgex battle for sobriety, but I donít miss it. Sometimes youíre happier being 50lbs lighter, skating more and not blowing cash on a headache.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on September 24, 2019, 02:07:31 PM
I stopped drinking ~5 years back. It had turned into a huge, routine waste of money, made me fucking fat, feel like shit after and I could be a real asshole some nights.

There was no exact date or anything, donít consider it an xStraightEdgex battle for sobriety, but I donít miss it. Sometimes youíre happier being 50lbs lighter, skating more and not blowing cash on a headache.

This.

The first couple weeks is weird because it feels like you have waaaay more time to do productive things. Then that settles and you just feel way better, sleep better, lose weight, and get alot of shit done. Even hobby wise etc. Days dont feel wasted.

I wake up thinking what can I accomplish today. Where as before I just got into this rut of what do I do till I get off work and drink? It felt like i was always in recovery mode.

Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: theintern43 on September 24, 2019, 02:32:55 PM
100% ruling out all substances is nearly a cheap way out IMO, the real test is smoking/drinking/using/etc. responsibly
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: iKobrakai on September 25, 2019, 12:35:41 AM
100% ruling out all substances is nearly a cheap way out IMO, the real test is smoking/drinking/using/etc. responsibly

Yepp, because we all know tons of ex heroin addicts that now are only shooting up on Fridays...

One of those "Sounds good. Does not work" kind of things.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: beatifk on September 25, 2019, 12:50:17 AM
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Yepp, because we all know tons of ex heroin addicts that now are only shooting up on Fridays...

One of those "Sounds good. Does not work" kind of things.

I only drink and do drugs on days that end in the letter "y".
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: theintern43 on September 25, 2019, 03:18:51 AM
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100% ruling out all substances is nearly a cheap way out IMO, the real test is smoking/drinking/using/etc. responsibly
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Yepp, because we all know tons of ex heroin addicts that now are only shooting up on Fridays...

One of those "Sounds good. Does not work" kind of things.
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I only drink and do drugs on days that end in the letter "y".

there is nothing responsible about using heroin. nothing.  however drinking a few beers on your day off doesnt make you an alcoholic and smoking a bowl in the comfort of your own home doesnt make you a stoner.  Sober people like to replace one addiction with another, exercise, ciggs, daily AA meetings etc.

"sounds good, does not work"...make it work, its hard just like everything else in life
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: sexualhelon on September 25, 2019, 04:11:25 AM
I've been thinking about giving it a go and tell myself maybe I'll start with only drinking on weekends/social events. For the last 5-7 years I've  probably had a couple of beers most every night aside from a couple of 2-3 weeks off here & there. I do really like beer though and that's almost exclusively the only alcohol I drink. My lady quit drinking something like 4 years ago so she'll tell me every once in a while that she thinks I should cut back. I actually just got  coffee substitute that's surprisingly decent. I think I'm gonna try seeing how going caffeine free feels.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Sleazy on September 25, 2019, 05:03:18 AM
my wife recently quit and i've been cutting back.

i don't really have interest in quitting all out. my dad only drinks socially which seems like a good approach but used to be a problem for me because my wife and i would drink together so it was always sort of social but now she quit so that would work out much better.

on the flip side i run a small business and some days i'll work a pretty long hard day and be exhausted on a level at the end of the day where walks and skating aren't happening and so i chill with some wine or a beer. i'm thinking about treating drinking more like how i treat exercise. most days i do a fitness class or some kind of intense workout, but some days i'm just not into it and feel like taking it easy. i'll probably aim for that with alcohol. keep it to social events and weekends but chill on the weekends and realize that some days i'm just going to want a drink.

for me there's not huge problems. it makes managing my weight harder is probably the main concern but i workout an hour most days in these intense classes so it kind of balances out. i'm definitely a morning person and pretty hyperactive but it does make me sluggish in the morning and causes problems sleeping. i'm not a grouchy drinker so there's not problems there. i'd probably get more done but i'm already getting a shitload done running a business and having 3 kids about to start investing in property, etc... not trying to minimize anyone else's struggles but been thinking about where i want to move the needle on this a bit lately so feels good to get my thoughts organized a bit.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: arrbee on September 25, 2019, 05:16:15 AM
I agree with a lot of what's being said here. I got into a rabbit hole of craft beer a few years ago, like beer you can only buy directly from the brewery, typically sells out the same day, super expensive (a bit supreme like now that I think about it). I put on a ton of weight cause I was drinking them like normal beers 3-5 pints a night (doesn't sound like much but most of them are like 8-11% ABV) plus they have a much higher calorie level than normal beers. I was waking up hungover as fuck, bloated and fat. Wasn't skating much cause I felt like shit all day, then rinse and repeat.

Woke up one day and my pants didn't fit, it was then I decided to change. I started running and going to the gym, drinking way less. Went from 30-40 of these pints a week to maybe 5-6. I lost 50 lbs, I get out skating at least twice a week for a few hours, which is about all I can spare with 3 kids and a wife at home, pretty much traded the time I was going to breweries and picking up cans of beer for skating. Now I'll drink one with dinner or after the kids are in bed while I'm watching something on TV. I don't buy nearly as much beer as I used to, I used to go to almost every weekly release at 2-3 breweries near me. Now I'll hit like one brewery a month if it's something that sounds good or something I've had before and enjoy.

So not entirely sober but definitely turned around from where I was headed. Feel much better now and happy I actually get out and skate
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: jtrpma on September 25, 2019, 10:43:24 AM
DECIDED TODAY TO STOP DRINKING FOR A FEW MONTHS. DONT DRINK HEAVILY OR TOO OFTEN BUT DO SOCIALLY AND DONT WANT A CRUTCH ANYMORE.

ANYONE ELSE SOBER UP AND CAN SHARE THE GOOD AND BAD FROM WHAT THEYVE EXPERIENCED?

i have been sober (again) since beginning of the year.

have never been drinking very much but always felt stupid doing it because i don't like it and felt i only drink because of peer pressure.

so i stopped again and am so much happier and saved a ton of money.

only positives!


proud of all the sober people here, keep it up!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Mad Max on September 25, 2019, 12:23:10 PM
Been sober just over two years now. I was drinking too regularly and it was just getting me depressed so I quit.

Even if the idea of having a drink doesnít cross my mind anymore, here are a couple points you need to know if you want to stay sober.

- Itís a day by day process. No matter how long youíve been on the wagon, you donít know what curve balls life will throw at you so make sure you got your priorities straight and understand that that drink isnít going to help the situation.

- Sidelining your sobriety for that special occassion means youíre not sober and your day count goes back to zero. Before you know it youíll be finding special occassions everywhere.

- Prepare to replace the booze with another vice. Usually itís sugar. I hit the diet cokes pretty hard since I went sober. I managed to quit those for six months but seeing as i donít drink coffee iím back on it. Caffeine/sugar is probably harder to quit than booze.

- One of my best friends is still struggling to get sober. He also smokes a lot of weed (see previous point) and I can tell you that regular and intensive weed smoking if the same as being an alcoholic just with slightly different side effects. Donít fool yourself with that I smoke donít drink so Iím fine mentality.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: WastedHippy on September 25, 2019, 03:42:35 PM
I agree with a lot of what's being said here. I got into a rabbit hole of craft beer a few years ago, like beer you can only buy directly from the brewery, typically sells out the same day, super expensive (a bit supreme like now that I think about it). I put on a ton of weight cause I was drinking them like normal beers 3-5 pints a night (doesn't sound like much but most of them are like 8-11% ABV) plus they have a much higher calorie level than normal beers. I was waking up hungover as fuck, bloated and fat. Wasn't skating much cause I felt like shit all day, then rinse and repeat.

Woke up one day and my pants didn't fit, it was then I decided to change. I started running and going to the gym, drinking way less. Went from 30-40 of these pints a week to maybe 5-6. I lost 50 lbs, I get out skating at least twice a week for a few hours, which is about all I can spare with 3 kids and a wife at home, pretty much traded the time I was going to breweries and picking up cans of beer for skating. Now I'll drink one with dinner or after the kids are in bed while I'm watching something on TV. I don't buy nearly as much beer as I used to, I used to go to almost every weekly release at 2-3 breweries near me. Now I'll hit like one brewery a month if it's something that sounds good or something I've had before and enjoy.

So not entirely sober but definitely turned around from where I was headed. Feel much better now and happy I actually get out and skate

I think you've nailed it, without going to the extreme of all out sober you've still made positive changes which basically provides the same results without feeling limited by rules
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: arrbee on September 25, 2019, 05:02:57 PM
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I agree with a lot of what's being said here. I got into a rabbit hole of craft beer a few years ago, like beer you can only buy directly from the brewery, typically sells out the same day, super expensive (a bit supreme like now that I think about it). I put on a ton of weight cause I was drinking them like normal beers 3-5 pints a night (doesn't sound like much but most of them are like 8-11% ABV) plus they have a much higher calorie level than normal beers. I was waking up hungover as fuck, bloated and fat. Wasn't skating much cause I felt like shit all day, then rinse and repeat.

Woke up one day and my pants didn't fit, it was then I decided to change. I started running and going to the gym, drinking way less. Went from 30-40 of these pints a week to maybe 5-6. I lost 50 lbs, I get out skating at least twice a week for a few hours, which is about all I can spare with 3 kids and a wife at home, pretty much traded the time I was going to breweries and picking up cans of beer for skating. Now I'll drink one with dinner or after the kids are in bed while I'm watching something on TV. I don't buy nearly as much beer as I used to, I used to go to almost every weekly release at 2-3 breweries near me. Now I'll hit like one brewery a month if it's something that sounds good or something I've had before and enjoy.

So not entirely sober but definitely turned around from where I was headed. Feel much better now and happy I actually get out and skate
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I think you've nailed it, without going to the extreme of all out sober you've still made positive changes which basically provides the same results without feeling limited by rules

Thanks, it feels pretty good so far. Itís been a little over a year now since Iíve tapered back. Keeping this going for a while.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Robert Baratheon on September 25, 2019, 08:43:08 PM
My thoughts are with all of you. I hope you find peace and good fortune. I lost my brother this summer to an overdose. He left behind a 2 yr daughter, his girlfriend and the rest of his family. Itís so fucking brutal. Our lives are forever affected. I back all of your efforts to find a way out. Be good. Get some.
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Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on September 25, 2019, 09:33:54 PM
My thoughts are with all of you. I hope you find peace and good fortune. I lost my brother this summer to an overdose. He left behind a 2 yr daughter, his girlfriend and the rest of his family. Itís so fucking brutal. Our lives are forever affected. I back all of your efforts to find a way out. Be good. Get some.

I see it too often in my work. Sorry to hear that. Heartbreaking every single time.

Sincerely sorry for your family's loss. That poor child. Ughh
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Post by: JohnnySaintLethal on September 25, 2019, 09:39:44 PM
I support anyone who wants to be sober, sobriety is rad I think. Iím not sober but more power to you cats.
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Post by: Dr-Feelgood on September 26, 2019, 01:52:40 AM
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I spent 4 + years in canada where i was drinking quite alot every weekend, ever since i got back to Australia ive chilled on it a bit, its nice to recharge a bit, wake up fresh without hangovers on weekend
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That's crazy! 4 years in Canada and you only drank on weekends, good for you!

Its completely normal in Canada to drink every day, and not small amounts either.

If you drink 24 cans of beer a day that's considered pretty normal.

Anyhow, I quit drinking about 2-3 years ago. I'm happy I did for many reasons. As you get older it's just not worth it.

I've had a beer now and again but I cant even finish one without thinking it's not that good anymore and I just dont finish it.

Hahah id drink the occasional weekday as a good little tourist does but yeah pretty common in Australia for people to drink every day....My buddys uncle in vancouver use to crush cases of kokanee on a daily basis
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Post by: sexualhelon on September 26, 2019, 02:16:15 AM
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I spent 4 + years in canada where i was drinking quite alot every weekend, ever since i got back to Australia ive chilled on it a bit, its nice to recharge a bit, wake up fresh without hangovers on weekend
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That's crazy! 4 years in Canada and you only drank on weekends, good for you!

Its completely normal in Canada to drink every day, and not small amounts either.

If you drink 24 cans of beer a day that's considered pretty normal.

Anyhow, I quit drinking about 2-3 years ago. I'm happy I did for many reasons. As you get older it's just not worth it.

I've had a beer now and again but I cant even finish one without thinking it's not that good anymore and I just dont finish it.
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Hahah id drink the occasional weekday as a good little tourist does but yeah pretty common in Australia for people to drink every day....My buddys uncle in vancouver use to crush cases of kokanee on a daily basis

Same here in Germany. Pretty common to see someone with a beer at all hours of the day - even on the morning commute at 9am.

I'm curious though, for anyone who was only ever drinking a 1-2 beers each day then quit or cut back did you notice a big difference in how you felt health/energy/focus wise? I have a friend who's taken month long breaks but he's someone who, when he drinks, doesn't stop. He says he feels a bigger difference when he takes a month long hiatus from caffeine.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Sleazy on September 26, 2019, 05:05:35 AM
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I agree with a lot of what's being said here. I got into a rabbit hole of craft beer a few years ago, like beer you can only buy directly from the brewery, typically sells out the same day, super expensive (a bit supreme like now that I think about it). I put on a ton of weight cause I was drinking them like normal beers 3-5 pints a night (doesn't sound like much but most of them are like 8-11% ABV) plus they have a much higher calorie level than normal beers. I was waking up hungover as fuck, bloated and fat. Wasn't skating much cause I felt like shit all day, then rinse and repeat.

Woke up one day and my pants didn't fit, it was then I decided to change. I started running and going to the gym, drinking way less. Went from 30-40 of these pints a week to maybe 5-6. I lost 50 lbs, I get out skating at least twice a week for a few hours, which is about all I can spare with 3 kids and a wife at home, pretty much traded the time I was going to breweries and picking up cans of beer for skating. Now I'll drink one with dinner or after the kids are in bed while I'm watching something on TV. I don't buy nearly as much beer as I used to, I used to go to almost every weekly release at 2-3 breweries near me. Now I'll hit like one brewery a month if it's something that sounds good or something I've had before and enjoy.

So not entirely sober but definitely turned around from where I was headed. Feel much better now and happy I actually get out and skate
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I think you've nailed it, without going to the extreme of all out sober you've still made positive changes which basically provides the same results without feeling limited by rules
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Thanks, it feels pretty good so far. Itís been a little over a year now since Iíve tapered back. Keeping this going for a while.

arrbee This is the same kind of approach Iím looking at taking. Iíve got 3 kids too. I didnít drink the last two days and Iíve been having more energy and then not finishing the day drinking I instead skating or hitting the pool. Planning to have a few drinks Friday and Saturday and then get back on it.
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Post by: arrbee on September 26, 2019, 06:22:41 AM
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I agree with a lot of what's being said here. I got into a rabbit hole of craft beer a few years ago, like beer you can only buy directly from the brewery, typically sells out the same day, super expensive (a bit supreme like now that I think about it). I put on a ton of weight cause I was drinking them like normal beers 3-5 pints a night (doesn't sound like much but most of them are like 8-11% ABV) plus they have a much higher calorie level than normal beers. I was waking up hungover as fuck, bloated and fat. Wasn't skating much cause I felt like shit all day, then rinse and repeat.

Woke up one day and my pants didn't fit, it was then I decided to change. I started running and going to the gym, drinking way less. Went from 30-40 of these pints a week to maybe 5-6. I lost 50 lbs, I get out skating at least twice a week for a few hours, which is about all I can spare with 3 kids and a wife at home, pretty much traded the time I was going to breweries and picking up cans of beer for skating. Now I'll drink one with dinner or after the kids are in bed while I'm watching something on TV. I don't buy nearly as much beer as I used to, I used to go to almost every weekly release at 2-3 breweries near me. Now I'll hit like one brewery a month if it's something that sounds good or something I've had before and enjoy.

So not entirely sober but definitely turned around from where I was headed. Feel much better now and happy I actually get out and skate
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I think you've nailed it, without going to the extreme of all out sober you've still made positive changes which basically provides the same results without feeling limited by rules
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Thanks, it feels pretty good so far. Itís been a little over a year now since Iíve tapered back. Keeping this going for a while.
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arrbee This is the same kind of approach Iím looking at taking. Iíve got 3 kids too. I didnít drink the last two days and Iíve been having more energy and then not finishing the day drinking I instead skating or hitting the pool. Planning to have a few drinks Friday and Saturday and then get back on it.

That's great! In the last 7 days I think I have consumed 5 beers. 2 Were at dinner last Friday, 1 Saturday, 2 Sunday afternoon. Then Monday I poured one with dinner and only took a few drinks of it then forgot about while cleaning up dinner getting the kids up in their rooms and settled.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: the snake on September 26, 2019, 06:32:53 AM
You must fucking skate everyday to drink fucking beers everyday
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Post by: Sleazy on September 26, 2019, 07:32:34 AM
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I agree with a lot of what's being said here. I got into a rabbit hole of craft beer a few years ago, like beer you can only buy directly from the brewery, typically sells out the same day, super expensive (a bit supreme like now that I think about it). I put on a ton of weight cause I was drinking them like normal beers 3-5 pints a night (doesn't sound like much but most of them are like 8-11% ABV) plus they have a much higher calorie level than normal beers. I was waking up hungover as fuck, bloated and fat. Wasn't skating much cause I felt like shit all day, then rinse and repeat.

Woke up one day and my pants didn't fit, it was then I decided to change. I started running and going to the gym, drinking way less. Went from 30-40 of these pints a week to maybe 5-6. I lost 50 lbs, I get out skating at least twice a week for a few hours, which is about all I can spare with 3 kids and a wife at home, pretty much traded the time I was going to breweries and picking up cans of beer for skating. Now I'll drink one with dinner or after the kids are in bed while I'm watching something on TV. I don't buy nearly as much beer as I used to, I used to go to almost every weekly release at 2-3 breweries near me. Now I'll hit like one brewery a month if it's something that sounds good or something I've had before and enjoy.

So not entirely sober but definitely turned around from where I was headed. Feel much better now and happy I actually get out and skate
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I think you've nailed it, without going to the extreme of all out sober you've still made positive changes which basically provides the same results without feeling limited by rules
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Thanks, it feels pretty good so far. Itís been a little over a year now since Iíve tapered back. Keeping this going for a while.
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arrbee This is the same kind of approach Iím looking at taking. Iíve got 3 kids too. I didnít drink the last two days and Iíve been having more energy and then not finishing the day drinking I instead skating or hitting the pool. Planning to have a few drinks Friday and Saturday and then get back on it.
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That's great! In the last 7 days I think I have consumed 5 beers. 2 Were at dinner last Friday, 1 Saturday, 2 Sunday afternoon. Then Monday I poured one with dinner and only took a few drinks of it then forgot about while cleaning up dinner getting the kids up in their rooms and settled.

that's cool man. different people work differently with this stuff. like when it comes to dieting, some people have to go all in and do these crazy extreme diets and exercise routines. but i'm looking at that and thinking is that sustainable and more desirable then something more balanced. just get some exercise each day and if you go to a happy hour then take it easy the next day and workout harder.

my wife has starting listening to these really anti-drinking e-books/podcast that say things like

"when these people choose to ingest poison..."

for her she needs that absolute wrong to make it work. her will power is really gnarly though, way gnarlier than what i'm capable of. her dieting over the years has been really impressive.

for me it's easier to set some reasonable goals and try and balance it out.

slightly related, spent an hour on my quarter yesterday morning between calls which was great. i'm not sure how much the drinking is helping here versus the heat easing up a bit, lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-uqDKf8ZO0&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: arrbee on September 26, 2019, 07:51:06 AM
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I agree with a lot of what's being said here. I got into a rabbit hole of craft beer a few years ago, like beer you can only buy directly from the brewery, typically sells out the same day, super expensive (a bit supreme like now that I think about it). I put on a ton of weight cause I was drinking them like normal beers 3-5 pints a night (doesn't sound like much but most of them are like 8-11% ABV) plus they have a much higher calorie level than normal beers. I was waking up hungover as fuck, bloated and fat. Wasn't skating much cause I felt like shit all day, then rinse and repeat.

Woke up one day and my pants didn't fit, it was then I decided to change. I started running and going to the gym, drinking way less. Went from 30-40 of these pints a week to maybe 5-6. I lost 50 lbs, I get out skating at least twice a week for a few hours, which is about all I can spare with 3 kids and a wife at home, pretty much traded the time I was going to breweries and picking up cans of beer for skating. Now I'll drink one with dinner or after the kids are in bed while I'm watching something on TV. I don't buy nearly as much beer as I used to, I used to go to almost every weekly release at 2-3 breweries near me. Now I'll hit like one brewery a month if it's something that sounds good or something I've had before and enjoy.

So not entirely sober but definitely turned around from where I was headed. Feel much better now and happy I actually get out and skate
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I think you've nailed it, without going to the extreme of all out sober you've still made positive changes which basically provides the same results without feeling limited by rules
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Thanks, it feels pretty good so far. Itís been a little over a year now since Iíve tapered back. Keeping this going for a while.
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arrbee This is the same kind of approach Iím looking at taking. Iíve got 3 kids too. I didnít drink the last two days and Iíve been having more energy and then not finishing the day drinking I instead skating or hitting the pool. Planning to have a few drinks Friday and Saturday and then get back on it.
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That's great! In the last 7 days I think I have consumed 5 beers. 2 Were at dinner last Friday, 1 Saturday, 2 Sunday afternoon. Then Monday I poured one with dinner and only took a few drinks of it then forgot about while cleaning up dinner getting the kids up in their rooms and settled.
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that's cool man. different people work differently with this stuff. like when it comes to dieting, some people have to go all in and do these crazy extreme diets and exercise routines. but i'm looking at that and thinking is that sustainable and more desirable then something more balanced. just get some exercise each day and if you go to a happy hour then take it easy the next day and workout harder.

my wife has starting listening to these really anti-drinking e-books/podcast that say things like

"when these people choose to ingest poison..."

for her she needs that absolute wrong to make it work. her will power is really gnarly though, way gnarlier than what i'm capable of. her dieting over the years has been really impressive.

for me it's easier to set some reasonable goals and try and balance it out.

slightly related, spent an hour on my quarter yesterday morning between calls which was great. i'm not sure how much the drinking is helping here versus the heat easing up a bit, lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-uqDKf8ZO0&feature=youtu.be

That quarter is amazing!
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Post by: Sleazy on September 26, 2019, 08:14:27 AM
thanks man, super stoked on the quarter. just getting the coping to grind. it's hard to skate because it's kind of steep and has the concrete coping but really rewarding to get tricks on.
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Post by: rawr1922 on September 26, 2019, 01:49:25 PM

- Sidelining your sobriety for that special occassion means youíre not sober and your day count goes back to zero. Before you know it youíll be finding special occassions everywhere.



After nearly 2 decades of substance abuse problems, finally under control. Also accepted impossible for me to be 100% sober. Feels good because would always beat myself up after drinking at special occasions then turn more depressed. Happy I don't hold that mindset anymore. Such a brutal internal struggle. Mainly just drink on special occasions, 1-2 times a month plus tap out after 4 beers. System works for me. During height of chaos, drinking everyday & few occasions killed 30 rack. Substance abuse  equals crazy daily viscious cycle of self sabatoge. Good luck to everybody fighting the battle, you will win the war one day. Moderation or cold turkey , hope you find peace. 
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Post by: Freight Train on September 27, 2019, 10:24:08 AM
Yeah but does Dennis Rodman avoid Dr. Drew when he sees him at LAX on his way to visit his ride-or-die bitch, Kim Jong Un?
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Post by: rawr1922 on October 15, 2019, 07:06:31 PM
Disregard everything I said , clearly a walking contradiction. Fuck sobriety, team relapse
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Post by: rawr1922 on October 15, 2019, 07:07:05 PM
And team fun
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Post by: iKobrakai on October 15, 2019, 10:07:09 PM
Well, I donít think that's a good idea but stay safe out there. That fun part does not tends to last.
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Post by: Sleazy on October 17, 2019, 02:42:21 PM
so been a few weeks for me on the moderation program and seems to be going well. i had a trip to san diego for 3 days which was nights out drinking of course but i still made 6:30am beach volley ball follow by a 5k so probably not too bad. that fits into my social drinking rule. during the week i've been not drinking for the most part and it's been going great. on the weekends i'm starting later and drinking less but still enjoying some drinks. i keep a lot of la croix type soda waters and just smash those when i'm thinking i want a beer. this week i'm down 4 lbs on my weight which is cool. best part for me is probably just sleeping better during the week and not having such a hard ramp up first thing in the morning and i've been skating more.

side note, i saw wes skating down the street in SD near the beach which was pretty epic.
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Post by: ghettygreensili on October 18, 2019, 12:29:00 AM
bump when sober

Three days without drinking at the moment. Only weird thing so far is the extra free time and a confused roommate when I was home on my night off. Looking forward to really seeing what becomes of this.
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Post by: ghettygreensili on October 18, 2019, 12:31:16 AM
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OP gunning for the worst poster on Slap title. He's got a lot of competition, though. I give him one week tops before his next drink.
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RICK I TRIED TO DM YOU FOR TIPS BUT YOU WONT TAKE MY MESSAGES

I THINK ILL BE ABLE TO HOLD STRONG ON NOT DRINKING UNTIL XMAS. IN SOME SICK TWIST IF FATE, THE ONLY TIME I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO DRINK IS WHEN IM WITH MY FAMILY. WORK PARTIES AND SOCIALIZING WITH FRIENDS I COULD CARE LESS

SOBER BUMP I DRANK GINGERALE INSTEAD OF BOURBON TONIGHT

proud of you dude, keep it up
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Post by: os89 on October 18, 2019, 05:26:23 PM
I need to get on the wagon, fuck.
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Post by: JohnnySaintLethal on October 18, 2019, 06:05:55 PM
Been on the wagon except for the weekends so far. Whatever idk if that counts.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B3xJd_wJPR1/?igshid=1pupfyv98hvxr

Itís fun what you remember you can do when youíre not focusing on getting drunk every night. Painted this last night.
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Post by: WastedHippy on October 18, 2019, 06:08:25 PM
Been on the wagon except for the weekends so far. Whatever idk if that counts.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B3xJd_wJPR1/?igshid=1pupfyv98hvxr

Itís fun what you remember you can do when youíre not focusing on getting drunk every night. Painted this last night.

I know some people would say it doesn't count but if its cut down drastically in comparison and is a challenge then fuck it, I say congrats because your still making positive changes
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Post by: Hevonen on October 19, 2019, 07:14:17 AM
Been sober for around 2,5 months (aside from a beer or two the couple times I've been to a bar to watch some game). Not a conscious decision, just hasn't been much partying going on with my group of friends, or I've been busy working. Normally I drink 2-3 times per month and pretty heavily on those occasions (20-30 beers/shots). Haven't really felt any difference aside from not feeling like garbage for the couple days after drinking and maybe losing a pound or two
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Post by: What a find on October 19, 2019, 12:00:17 PM
Some of y'all are battling for real, respect

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Small time issues here but 3 days of cigs and monsters after a little more than a year

Working nights and not sleeping during the day because I missed the sun

Changing life instead of letting life change me. Fuck the substance dependant lifestyle
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Post by: Vintagebody on October 19, 2019, 01:05:52 PM
Whats the deal with certain skateboarders trying to live up this foolish image of "skate, drugs and rock n roll(more like mumble rap)"??? Its like its cool to be a drughead with poor job.
I've seen it alot in teenagers the last few years duo to my job, and it seems to be growing.

Stop being a wozzy, face life drug and alcohol free.
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Post by: rawr1922 on October 19, 2019, 03:18:25 PM
Been on a pretty good bender this week, have to sober up then return to normal life before Monday
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Post by: S. on October 19, 2019, 04:36:33 PM
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I spent 4 + years in canada where i was drinking quite alot every weekend, ever since i got back to Australia ive chilled on it a bit, its nice to recharge a bit, wake up fresh without hangovers on weekend
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That's crazy! 4 years in Canada and you only drank on weekends, good for you!

Its completely normal in Canada to drink every day, and not small amounts either.

If you drink 24 cans of beer a day that's considered pretty normal.

Anyhow, I quit drinking about 2-3 years ago. I'm happy I did for many reasons. As you get older it's just not worth it.

I've had a beer now and again but I cant even finish one without thinking it's not that good anymore and I just dont finish it.
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Hahah id drink the occasional weekday as a good little tourist does but yeah pretty common in Australia for people to drink every day....My buddys uncle in vancouver use to crush cases of kokanee on a daily basis
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Same here in Germany. Pretty common to see someone with a beer at all hours of the day - even on the morning commute at 9am.

I'm curious though, for anyone who was only ever drinking a 1-2 beers each day then quit or cut back did you notice a big difference in how you felt health/energy/focus wise? I have a friend who's taken month long breaks but he's someone who, when he drinks, doesn't stop. He says he feels a bigger difference when he takes a month long hiatus from caffeine.

Yo, I am German too. I get into phases when I will have one to two beers every day. Usually that happens when I am frustrated with work or the wintertime and having a beer at night feels like a real treat.  Physically it does not make much of a difference if I have them or not. I don't think it affects my recovery or inflamation at all. It does influence my mood a bit, though. If I stop having that beer at night I feel a bit nervous and angry in the following evenings. I might also find it a bit more difficult to fall asleep. Also I feel I have a little bit more energy if I did not have that beer the night before. During the weeks of my daily beer routine I will also drink a bit more coffee.

If I drink more than two beers I definitely notice it the next day. My knees and ancles will feel like shit. I will get mood swings from anger to depression and recovering from a skate session will take forever. I think feeling the negative effects of alcohol so directly has prevented me from drinking becoming more of a problem. I do get moderately drunk once a week I guess, but I see that I have the following day off and that I take walk or some shit to not get too angry and depressed. I have stopped trying to skate hungover so if I plan to skate the next day I do not drink more than one or two beers.

I fucking love beer and if I knew that I would feel OK the next day I would want to drink it constantly. I like it so much I even drink non-alcoholic beer.
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Post by: Assmountain on October 20, 2019, 06:56:24 AM
I'm currently drinking a 3L bottle of port wine. Let that be a lesson to you all.
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Post by: UPPERCASEnocap on November 04, 2019, 02:56:42 PM
First post, as this one definitely grabbed my attention. I am a alcoholic. Heavy duty drinker. By the bottle and by the case. I've stopped drinking for a month here and there in the past. But now at 29 I am a year and some odd months sober from booze.

I always look back and miss the days of having absolutely zero regard for myself of others as if you don't care about anything, nothing can ever upset you, right? Wrong.

This was my first year back really skating in over 10 years. I would have never imagined I would be doing and enjoying skateboarding so much.

Overall, this past 12 plus months have been the most, rewarding and down right fun times I've had in my life.

If you're trying to decide if you want to stop or slow down on the drinking, you have already recognized a problem and sobriety is definitely a nice option!

Cheers! Uh, I mean, bye.
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Post by: UPPERCASEnocap on November 04, 2019, 02:57:56 PM
I think I've posted about it before, but I'm almost two years totally sober. Last drink was in October 2017.

I mean, I never really had a full-blown problem, but I drank regularly since I was 17. I mainly stopped because I got married and my wife is religious and has never done drugs or drank. She jokes about drinking wine but I don't want to even hear about it.

Also - for me, putting aside the religious/cultural points, drinking stressed me out. I got overly concerned about its long-term effects to my equilibrium and memory, and it's also a stressor due to how it sucks up money. And I'm getting older and have never been really financially stable, so I just started to feel like a loser. The value of giving it up is more mentally, psychologically beneficial.

To be totally honest, when I'm really low and depressed I want to drink still. And it's still a struggle not to get some beer. I miss beer. I even miss the beer thread on Slap. But its arbitrary nature is easier to remember than before.

This is all 💯. Congratulations on the sobriety!
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Post by: Salsa Verde on November 04, 2019, 08:11:47 PM
10 days in. Weíll see how this goes...
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Post by: UPPERCASEnocap on November 05, 2019, 07:12:03 AM
10 days in. Weíll see how this goes...

You're almost past the hardest part. All downhill from here!
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Post by: Salsa Verde on November 05, 2019, 07:17:06 AM
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10 days in. Weíll see how this goes...
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You're almost past the hardest part. All downhill from here!

Thank you. I appreciate that!
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Post by: jtrpma on November 05, 2019, 11:39:22 AM
10 days in. Weíll see how this goes...

yeah, congrats! keep it up!

i am at six months, at  the moment, very happy about that
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Post by: UPPERCASEnocap on November 05, 2019, 05:55:11 PM
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10 days in. Weíll see how this goes...
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yeah, congrats! keep it up!

i am at six months, at  the moment, very happy about that

Damnnn! 6 months? no looking back now! Congrats.
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Post by: jtrpma on November 05, 2019, 07:05:45 PM
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10 days in. Weíll see how this goes...
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yeah, congrats! keep it up!

i am at six months, at  the moment, very happy about that
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Damnnn! 6 months? no looking back now! Congrats.

Not even a question about it. The only thing for me is to break a habit, so after like two months I donít even think of having a beer. When someone offers one it feels weird, like why should I even consider. Same works for me with eating meat, drugs, etc. just need to build the mindset that it is something I donít see myself doing and then it is not a difficult decision or temptation.

After loosing friends to drugs I was straight edge in my late teens and beyond for over six years. Then after changing my surroundings, slowly started having casual beers and weed and often got mad at myself for loosing that strength, somehow. I just always felt best sober. So I am really happy getting some authority over my actions back.
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Post by: Salsa Verde on November 05, 2019, 07:48:26 PM
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yeah, congrats! keep it up!

i am at six months, at  the moment, very happy about that

Thanks man, and congrats right back at ya with the 1/2 year!
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Post by: Big Baby Jesus on November 06, 2019, 07:12:55 AM
Really cool to see all the slappers that are trying to get and stay sober. Right now I have 9.5 months. Last day I used was Jan 10. I was using heroin and coke daily. Overdosed for the first time, wrecked my car and went into treatment. Was forced with that or my girl not letting me come home. Has been worth it and I feel great. I don't do any AA/NA but more CBT therapy and meds to manage my depression. Been skating a alot, rebuilding relationships with family and friends, and just started working again. Definitely was hard the first few months but now I'm proud I made the change.
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Post by: Sleazy on November 06, 2019, 08:09:29 AM
i'm about 4 weeks in on this new moderation thing where i mostly drink on weekends and it's going really well. it's probably not for every one but here's some notes for anyone thinking about just moderating instead of completely quiting

- i don't really struggle with not having a drink mon-thurs anymore, took like 2 weeks but i actually really enjoy just relaxing at night now and find it a bit more relaxing to chill without a drink
- i've started looking forward to not drinking during the next week on the weekends. i enjoy having some drinks on weekend for sure but i find that the next day when i'm tired and have harder time getting up i start looking forward to the next week. i'm also starting to enjoy drinking a little less on the weekends. it's more like desert at this point. i like eating a desert when i'm in the mood but if i randomly just slay a huge piece of cake for no reason i'll probably not be into it, same thing with just pounding drinks for not good reason.
- officially i can drink sunday by my program but lately i've been skipping it mainly because i don't want to feel like shit monday and i'm usually feeling worn out from fri and sat festivities
- initial weight loss is gone. i went HAM one weekend where we went on a road trip to see tool and ended up bingeing on food and alcohol the whole weekend.

all in all super happy with the lifestyle change. treating drinking more like food and keeping it lean and clean during the week and splurging on the weekends makes sense for me. enjoying the easy mornings and better nights sleep.
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Post by: jtrpma on November 06, 2019, 08:45:35 AM
Really cool to see all the slappers that are trying to get and stay sober. Right now I have 9.5 months. Last day I used was Jan 10. I was using heroin and coke daily. Overdosed for the first time, wrecked my car and went into treatment. Was forced with that or my girl not letting me come home. Has been worth it and I feel great. I don't do any AA/NA but more CBT therapy and meds to manage my depression. Been skating a alot, rebuilding relationships with family and friends, and just started working again. Definitely was hard the first few months but now I'm proud I made the change.

that is such a difficult change to make. i can't imagine how difficult the initial days must be, especially in a moiment that is already difficult (crashing, injury and relationship struggles) mad proud of you and 9.5 months!
keep it up, a year is close and you can count in big steps.

really like this thread and good posters on here!
happy to see some good souls here apart from the crazy insults that are flying nthrough some of the threads.

@Sleazy: way to go! any step towards moderation and awareness is a good step. good strength and props from my side.
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Post by: Sleazy on November 06, 2019, 10:37:02 AM
@Sleazy: way to go! any step towards moderation and awareness is a good step. good strength and props from my side.

thanks man. my wife lead the way. if she was still drinking it'd be way harder.
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Post by: WastedHippy on November 06, 2019, 12:05:47 PM
i'm about 4 weeks in on this new moderation thing where i mostly drink on weekends and it's going really well. it's probably not for every one but here's some notes for anyone thinking about just moderating instead of completely quiting

- i don't really struggle with not having a drink mon-thurs anymore, took like 2 weeks but i actually really enjoy just relaxing at night now and find it a bit more relaxing to chill without a drink
- i've started looking forward to not drinking during the next week on the weekends. i enjoy having some drinks on weekend for sure but i find that the next day when i'm tired and have harder time getting up i start looking forward to the next week. i'm also starting to enjoy drinking a little less on the weekends. it's more like desert at this point. i like eating a desert when i'm in the mood but if i randomly just slay a huge piece of cake for no reason i'll probably not be into it, same thing with just pounding drinks for not good reason.
- officially i can drink sunday by my program but lately i've been skipping it mainly because i don't want to feel like shit monday and i'm usually feeling worn out from fri and sat festivities
- initial weight loss is gone. i went HAM one weekend where we went on a road trip to see tool and ended up bingeing on food and alcohol the whole weekend.

all in all super happy with the lifestyle change. treating drinking more like food and keeping it lean and clean during the week and splurging on the weekends makes sense for me. enjoying the easy mornings and better nights sleep.

Congrats dude ! I think this is the best way to go about it because it's not just stopping everything so cold turkey, like you've mentioned as you cut down you find more that the days your allowing drinks you wont even feel like it and it kind of becomes more of a "whatever" thing instead of something to look forward to.
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Post by: VHS ERA on November 06, 2019, 06:20:10 PM
i'm about 4 weeks in on this new moderation thing where i mostly drink on weekends and it's going really well. it's probably not for every one but here's some notes for anyone thinking about just moderating instead of completely quiting

- i don't really struggle with not having a drink mon-thurs anymore, took like 2 weeks but i actually really enjoy just relaxing at night now and find it a bit more relaxing to chill without a drink
- i've started looking forward to not drinking during the next week on the weekends. i enjoy having some drinks on weekend for sure but i find that the next day when i'm tired and have harder time getting up i start looking forward to the next week. i'm also starting to enjoy drinking a little less on the weekends. it's more like desert at this point. i like eating a desert when i'm in the mood but if i randomly just slay a huge piece of cake for no reason i'll probably not be into it, same thing with just pounding drinks for not good reason.
- officially i can drink sunday by my program but lately i've been skipping it mainly because i don't want to feel like shit monday and i'm usually feeling worn out from fri and sat festivities
- initial weight loss is gone. i went HAM one weekend where we went on a road trip to see tool and ended up bingeing on food and alcohol the whole weekend.

all in all super happy with the lifestyle change. treating drinking more like food and keeping it lean and clean during the week and splurging on the weekends makes sense for me. enjoying the easy mornings and better nights sleep.

Wanting to be my best self the next day was a big factor in me successfully doing what youíre doing (I went from raging nightly alcoholic to strictly only weekend drinking and have been good for years).

I skate better, workout better, work and socialize better after having been sober the night before. Once I got past initial cravings this really sealed the deal.

Itís dope how re-falling in love with skateboarding helped me. I got obsessed with filming a new part and I wanted to be on point the next day to skate way more than I wanted to drink.

Disclaimer I just want to say that ďcutting backĒ like this is probably isnít for most people. Not that Iím special it just seems like most people with an addiction need to fully quit.
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Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on November 06, 2019, 06:45:10 PM
  I was fucked up at work today on edibles.  Thats my work juice.
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Post by: Sleazy on November 07, 2019, 04:17:51 AM
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i'm about 4 weeks in on this new moderation thing where i mostly drink on weekends and it's going really well. it's probably not for every one but here's some notes for anyone thinking about just moderating instead of completely quiting

- i don't really struggle with not having a drink mon-thurs anymore, took like 2 weeks but i actually really enjoy just relaxing at night now and find it a bit more relaxing to chill without a drink
- i've started looking forward to not drinking during the next week on the weekends. i enjoy having some drinks on weekend for sure but i find that the next day when i'm tired and have harder time getting up i start looking forward to the next week. i'm also starting to enjoy drinking a little less on the weekends. it's more like desert at this point. i like eating a desert when i'm in the mood but if i randomly just slay a huge piece of cake for no reason i'll probably not be into it, same thing with just pounding drinks for not good reason.
- officially i can drink sunday by my program but lately i've been skipping it mainly because i don't want to feel like shit monday and i'm usually feeling worn out from fri and sat festivities
- initial weight loss is gone. i went HAM one weekend where we went on a road trip to see tool and ended up bingeing on food and alcohol the whole weekend.

all in all super happy with the lifestyle change. treating drinking more like food and keeping it lean and clean during the week and splurging on the weekends makes sense for me. enjoying the easy mornings and better nights sleep.
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Wanting to be my best self the next day was a big factor in me successfully doing what youíre doing (I went from raging nightly alcoholic to strictly only weekend drinking and have been good for years).

I skate better, workout better, work and socialize better after having been sober the night before. Once I got past initial cravings this really sealed the deal.

Itís dope how re-falling in love with skateboarding helped me. I got obsessed with filming a new part and I wanted to be on point the next day to skate way more than I wanted to drink.

Disclaimer I just want to say that ďcutting backĒ like this is probably isnít for most people. Not that Iím special it just seems like most people with an addiction need to fully quit.

seeing others talking about moderation on here really helped get me motivated. last night i was thinking about having a drink but ended up eating some cheese and pretzels. i did a gnarly workout class after a long day and was just feeling exhausted.

i'm feeling the same way about skating as you mentioned. my big challenge now is that i usually skate saturday mornings and that's my worst day now, lol. a lot of the time i'll roll up at the skate park and just never get a session going because i'm physically tired and just not feeling pumped up. need to figure that one out.
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Post by: straight on November 07, 2019, 05:11:37 AM
^ instead of looking forward to drinking friday night .. look even further and get excited for the saturday morning skate sesh
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Post by: no habla mango on November 07, 2019, 05:23:37 AM
russell simmons said 'i realized i preferred morning meditation to late night partying.'
straight quote reminds me of that.
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Post by: Sleazy on November 07, 2019, 05:30:59 AM
^ instead of looking forward to drinking friday night .. look even further and get excited for the saturday morning skate sesh

need to figure something out here for sure. now that it's not so hot might try skating later in the day and taking it easy friday nights. it's helpful for me during the week to know i can have a drink on friday. good way to finish the work week.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: VHS ERA on November 07, 2019, 05:40:10 AM
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i'm about 4 weeks in on this new moderation thing where i mostly drink on weekends and it's going really well. it's probably not for every one but here's some notes for anyone thinking about just moderating instead of completely quiting

- i don't really struggle with not having a drink mon-thurs anymore, took like 2 weeks but i actually really enjoy just relaxing at night now and find it a bit more relaxing to chill without a drink
- i've started looking forward to not drinking during the next week on the weekends. i enjoy having some drinks on weekend for sure but i find that the next day when i'm tired and have harder time getting up i start looking forward to the next week. i'm also starting to enjoy drinking a little less on the weekends. it's more like desert at this point. i like eating a desert when i'm in the mood but if i randomly just slay a huge piece of cake for no reason i'll probably not be into it, same thing with just pounding drinks for not good reason.
- officially i can drink sunday by my program but lately i've been skipping it mainly because i don't want to feel like shit monday and i'm usually feeling worn out from fri and sat festivities
- initial weight loss is gone. i went HAM one weekend where we went on a road trip to see tool and ended up bingeing on food and alcohol the whole weekend.

all in all super happy with the lifestyle change. treating drinking more like food and keeping it lean and clean during the week and splurging on the weekends makes sense for me. enjoying the easy mornings and better nights sleep.
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Wanting to be my best self the next day was a big factor in me successfully doing what youíre doing (I went from raging nightly alcoholic to strictly only weekend drinking and have been good for years).

I skate better, workout better, work and socialize better after having been sober the night before. Once I got past initial cravings this really sealed the deal.

Itís dope how re-falling in love with skateboarding helped me. I got obsessed with filming a new part and I wanted to be on point the next day to skate way more than I wanted to drink.

Disclaimer I just want to say that ďcutting backĒ like this is probably isnít for most people. Not that Iím special it just seems like most people with an addiction need to fully quit.
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seeing others talking about moderation on here really helped get me motivated. last night i was thinking about having a drink but ended up eating some cheese and pretzels. i did a gnarly workout class after a long day and was just feeling exhausted.

i'm feeling the same way about skating as you mentioned. my big challenge now is that i usually skate saturday mornings and that's my worst day now, lol. a lot of the time i'll roll up at the skate park and just never get a session going because i'm physically tired and just not feeling pumped up. need to figure that one out.

Youíre doin it right.

Other related advice from my experience. If youíre used to basically drinking yourself to sleep then you gotta tire yourself out. When youíre still fighting booze cravings, being wide awake with excess energy at 9 pm is the enemy. Wake up earlier, workout harder, work harder, skate harder whatever. Eventually dinner and bed will be all you want. Remember that cravings pass, just wait them out. Wait an hour or 2 and see if you still really need it that bad. Reaching for snacks instead of a drink as you mentioned is a fatboy move but I totally did it all the time. Whatever itís better than drinking.  I donít really get how it works but it does help curb a craving.

The last part about weekend skating I havenít figure out either because I do still drink a bit on weekends. The difference in my energy and focus level after a sober night vs after drinking even a couple is dramatic so I really prefer skating weekdays. When itís light out until 9 itís totally doable but this 5 pm sunset basically relegates skating to the weekend.
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Post by: Sleazy on November 07, 2019, 05:53:24 AM
fortunately for me i can easily be tired. i usually start working around 6am and work till around 5:30 pm and most days i do an hour intense workout at orange theory and if the weather is nice i'll throw a session on my quarter in there too or a hike with my wife on some trails in our neighborhood.

i was thinking the same thing about trying to hit up some week night sessions. i could also do week mornings. i own my own business and work from home/anywhere so there is this really chill coffee shop on the lake near the skatepark i like in austin so might start mixing that in once some of these projects i'm working on start getting less dependent on my time.

really appreciate the feedback though.

for all the crazy shit that this place is, i currently quit smoking weed after talking about it in a thread on here like 5 years ago and now this thread is great for moderating the drinking. good stuff.
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Post by: jtrpma on November 07, 2019, 07:18:56 AM
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... good way to finish the work week...

it is not, in my opinion. it is the way they advertise to "treat yourself" but it just makes your only time you don't have to be a slave difficult to heal from the work week and stress, do something for yourself, relax on the weekend and get some time to move on in life.

for me stopping after work "treat yourselfs" especially on fridays was the point where i started moving forward in life.
having to full days for myself, one to catch up with what i have not had time for during the week (clean, call back and catch up with friends, on sleep, etc.) and one day to work on personal projects, maybe look for better jobs, plan for the upcoming week, prep lunch, ... skate, art, whatever. and it always feels so good, like finishing the week off and feeling ready to start the next instead of dreading mondays.

its like an upwards spiral

Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Sleazy on November 07, 2019, 10:47:33 AM
that sounds like a good approach and i'd commend anyone who takes that but just doesn't fit to what i'm currently trying to do

for me the whole moderation thing, whether it's my diet or drinking is about rewarding good behavior. so during the week we eat healthy, have home cooked meals most nights with fresh seafood, meats and veggies but then on the weekend we'll get into some pizza or mexican food. we don't let our kids eat sweets or drink sodas during the week. but on the weekend, if they get some outside play time in then we let them have sugar drinks and snacks. the whole vibe being about balance and rewarding yourself for healthy choices.

i'm just trying to get my drinking into this same flow as it's been out of wack with the rest of what we do for a long time.

and then my situation is different than most on the job front. i work from home in a really great space with my wife and dogs, i manage my own schedule and my work is mostly creative things that i enjoy doing. i don't deal with traffic or any of that. so while my weekends are precious, it's not like it's my only 2 days of freedom. my weekends are mostly about having some fun with the kids and catching up on domestics. and part of that is eating some fun food and now part of that is having a drink for me.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: WastedHippy on November 07, 2019, 12:00:03 PM
fortunately for me i can easily be tired. i usually start working around 6am and work till around 5:30 pm and most days i do an hour intense workout at orange theory and if the weather is nice i'll throw a session on my quarter in there too or a hike with my wife on some trails in our neighborhood.

i was thinking the same thing about trying to hit up some week night sessions. i could also do week mornings. i own my own business and work from home/anywhere so there is this really chill coffee shop on the lake near the skatepark i like in austin so might start mixing that in once some of these projects i'm working on start getting less dependent on my time.

really appreciate the feedback though.

for all the crazy shit that this place is, i currently quit smoking weed after talking about it in a thread on here like 5 years ago and now this thread is great for moderating the drinking. good stuff.

ahah this is awesome, SLAP saves lives
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Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on November 14, 2019, 06:29:09 PM
Ooooh shit, man, I got my first of many SLAP accounts in like 99 or 2001, maybe earlier with those OG boards with that shithead YMHY (who I only remember because I was a kid and he gave me endless shit), and it's be a long, long time since I'm back from lurking hard, but this topic got me.

I stopped drinking alcohol just over 4 years ago and it's been a journey and a half. Due to the nature of the work I've done, I could drink a few beers all day and, excluding my physical and mental well being, get by fine enough. Then, when we settled down for the night, ate a little food, the beers starting getting crushed. It was always cases of Lagunitas IPA, Sculpin Grapefruit, or Racer 5. From here, a few night a week anyways, it went to the bar or whatever, and another substance was usually introduced and I'd be sitting in some shithole bar until 130am, doing nothing interesting or beneficial.

Then one day, following a weekend long outdoor craft beer festival, where I did a few other drugs, and drank a bloody maria for breakfast on the last day, feeling NOTHING, I decided it was time to lay off for a month. Well, in that first month I found myself back in the drunkest place I'd ever lived/worked, I'm talking my work partner drinking a pint of gin before 7am and breaking out the fire ball after his "nap." I didn't know if I'd make it through, but i figured I'd work harder sober no matter how challenging it was to not drinking a dank IPA while working the saw or splitting wood...

Then came the night of the DMT breakthrough. Sitting around the fire, Yolla Bollies in the distance, I ripped the Deemster bowl and took a trip into hyperspace. There was no cognitive breakthrough but upon returning to ground I knew that I no longer needed/wanted alcohol in my life. Now, this isn't to say I'm not usually thirsty and don't want a brew, but I know it's no good for me, so I stay away.

It got hard when I was laid up with a neck injury, then a low back injury, leaving me unable to skate, ride a bike, work manual labor, or practice yoga, and I had a few bouts messing with some pharmies, but all told, it's been a fucking sweet experience and one of the best things I've done for myself. I learned some serious job skills, saved hella cheddar, the body is healing, and, although some of changed and been dropped, my relationships are better, stronger and more positive.

Y'all do what y'all gotta do but it's possible to get sober and find better, more interesting shit to do. The boredom is a killer for the first year, then year 2 feels over confident, after that, the sailing starts to get smoother.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: whale on November 17, 2019, 10:51:53 AM
Havenít really drank to get drunk in years, but still loved a beer here and there.
Well, this year here and there has been everywhere and Iíve noticed itís gotten pretty hard going through the day without atleast 1 beer.
Currently 8 days fully sober, feeling restless.
Weíll see how this goes.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Salsa Verde on November 17, 2019, 09:10:22 PM
Ooooh shit, man, I got my first of many SLAP accounts in like 99 or 2001, maybe earlier with those OG boards with that shithead YMHY (who I only remember because I was a kid and he gave me endless shit), and it's be a long, long time since I'm back from lurking hard, but this topic got me.

I stopped drinking alcohol just over 4 years ago and it's been a journey and a half. Due to the nature of the work I've done, I could drink a few beers all day and, excluding my physical and mental well being, get by fine enough. Then, when we settled down for the night, ate a little food, the beers starting getting crushed. It was always cases of Lagunitas IPA, Sculpin Grapefruit, or Racer 5. From here, a few night a week anyways, it went to the bar or whatever, and another substance was usually introduced and I'd be sitting in some shithole bar until 130am, doing nothing interesting or beneficial.

Then one day, following a weekend long outdoor craft beer festival, where I did a few other drugs, and drank a bloody maria for breakfast on the last day, feeling NOTHING, I decided it was time to lay off for a month. Well, in that first month I found myself back in the drunkest place I'd ever lived/worked, I'm talking my work partner drinking a pint of gin before 7am and breaking out the fire ball after his "nap." I didn't know if I'd make it through, but i figured I'd work harder sober no matter how challenging it was to not drinking a dank IPA while working the saw or splitting wood...

Then came the night of the DMT breakthrough. Sitting around the fire, Yolla Bollies in the distance, I ripped the Deemster bowl and took a trip into hyperspace. There was no cognitive breakthrough but upon returning to ground I knew that I no longer needed/wanted alcohol in my life. Now, this isn't to say I'm not usually thirsty and don't want a brew, but I know it's no good for me, so I stay away.

It got hard when I was laid up with a neck injury, then a low back injury, leaving me unable to skate, ride a bike, work manual labor, or practice yoga, and I had a few bouts messing with some pharmies, but all told, it's been a fucking sweet experience and one of the best things I've done for myself. I learned some serious job skills, saved hella cheddar, the body is healing, and, although some of changed and been dropped, my relationships are better, stronger and more positive.

Y'all do what y'all gotta do but it's possible to get sober and find better, more interesting shit to do. The boredom is a killer for the first year, then year 2 feels over confident, after that, the sailing starts to get smoother.

Epic journey. Stay with it!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Salsa Verde on November 17, 2019, 09:12:20 PM
Havenít really drank to get drunk in years, but still loved a beer here and there.
Well, this year here and there has been everywhere and Iíve noticed itís gotten pretty hard going through the day without atleast 1 beer.
Currently 8 days fully sober, feeling restless.
Weíll see how this goes.

Youíre where I was a couple of weeks ago. I was given some encouraging words (thank you UPPERCASEnocap and jtrmpa) so Iíll do the same. Congrats. Stay with it. It gets easier day by day...
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Mystical Leader on November 18, 2019, 05:23:37 AM
I'm going to try this thing for a while. Been feeling pretty fried since the summer and it's starting effect people around me. I need to get myself a better education too and all that stuff. Getting there with the age. I guess I finally feel like I've done it all and I need to find something new in my life... It's just hard to get rid of destructive behavior when it's so much "fun".. 
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Post by: Sleazy on November 18, 2019, 05:48:50 AM
props IusedToSkateMore and Salsa Verde

keep it up!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: rawbertson. on November 18, 2019, 01:19:10 PM
i really would like to switch over to completely healthy lifestyle but have no clue where to start.

have really cut back on my weed and booze consumption but would like to eliminate it entirely. have to find a way to change up my routine + these new pens are just so god damned convenient :s the weed is going to be the hardest thing to quit for me
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on November 18, 2019, 03:18:10 PM
i really would like to switch over to completely healthy lifestyle but have no clue where to start.

have really cut back on my weed and booze consumption but would like to eliminate it entirely. have to find a way to change up my routine + these new pens are just so god damned convenient :s the weed is going to be the hardest thing to quit for me
  Fuckin right.  I quit cigerettes and opiates but could never quit weed.  And now im starting to think i dont need to.  It does affect my thinking tho.  The times ive quit made me realize that. 
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Post by: rawbertson. on November 19, 2019, 08:25:24 AM
the first step i have taken is basically eat a lot more vegetables and a lot less fast food. I think a good goal for myself would maybe be only do fast food like 2x a month (not sure how realistic that is still). my other goal for next year is to take care of my garden in my backyard and grow vegetables there ( first time i have ever had a chance to do something like this, i just moved)

i want to set a goal for myself to just blaze weed 1x a week but its still like 3x a day. Was down to 1x a day but hard to get back to that im finding.

alchohol i want to have just 1x a week and lately have been doing like 3x a week again (but just like 1 drink / night)
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Post by: Sleazy on November 19, 2019, 11:46:25 AM
that's pretty good rawbertson. i'm imagining it took shitloads of weed to get those SF skill up


my program still going well for me. last two weeks i've had a day during the week when i've had drinks but it fits into the heuristic i'm going for.

last week mid weeks the kids wanted to go out for pizza at this dope neapolitan pizza place. we never do that during the week but my 11 year old daughter was really hyped to go and i was in the mood too. they have peroni on tap and so it was on, no regrets there. just had one beer and one wine.

this week, i had demo day for my biggest client today and worked 7 hours on friday and 12 or so on monday getting ready and so last night had a nice 2.5 finger pour of some good tequila. i've got this CTO forum that i'm a member of and we meet once a month. after the meeting we have dinner and drinks also this week so that might throw this week off a bit. but that's how i structured things. i'll go dry tonight and take it easy at the forum.
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Post by: rawbertson. on November 19, 2019, 12:41:10 PM
Peroni on tap is godlike!!! aw man also I found this really good beer i like called Granville Island Lionhead Winter Ale. It has hints of caramel and coffee. God damn though that shit is HEAVY like a guiness. super bad for you lol. need to CUT BACK. i stopped beer entirely and just did gin + soda water casue less carbs. but then id just kill like tons of Gin shots straight out the bottle soo i think im gonna take a break from buying 26er of gin for a bit. Gonna just buy 4 of those beers on Friday and that will be my alchohol for the week.

I am getting low on weed + pens and i really dont want to re order and see how long i can go without. spent $227 on pens that lasted me like 4 weeks... too ridiculous need to see if not having those around could lead to me smoking a lot less. i find it REALLY hard to get through an entire saturday / sunday with young kids not having any tokes lol. i think i will just do a smaller order i find having tons of gear i am more inclined to just go ham, i am kind of a crack head like that
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Sleazy on November 19, 2019, 01:51:47 PM
Peroni on tap is godlike!!!

i had only had it at a place before which was in the syndey airport so i was super stoked to find it at this pizza spot. but fully agree, such a great beer experience especially with some quality wood oven pizza. i'm actually a big fan of slightly sweet malty beers like peroni, stella or asain style beers. i think growing up in south east asia as a kid has a lot to do with it.

i quit smoking week like 5 years ago or so. i had given someone on here this advice about don't smoke for a day and do a retro on if your day was better or worst and then keep going from there. it seemed like good advice and so i followed it and ended up never looking back. for me being hi around my kids was way to awkward to be enjoyable, my wife doesn't smoke and i honestly started just having weird thoughts when i'd get really high. i found it easier to relax when i wasn't hi because my brain wouldn't start racing on dumb shit. when i was enjoying smoking weed i wasn't busy, skated a lot, played a lot of street fighter with my homies, etc... once i got busy and didn't have the right circle activities for weed it got weird for me so it was easy to quit.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: straight on December 02, 2019, 05:32:05 PM
started smoking weed again and thinking about drinking again
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Post by: hangontoyourego on December 02, 2019, 05:41:30 PM
started smoking weed again and thinking about drinking again
Donít give in . Think about how good you feel without it .
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Idk on December 03, 2019, 08:37:45 AM
Day 2 of no more alcohol (beer) for the time being. Meniscus surgery this Thursday so I thought itíd be a good idea to stop for the moment. I went from not really drinking unless it was night time to popping open a Budweiser when I woke up. Never really thought Iíd ever become that person.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on December 03, 2019, 10:21:53 AM
Some of this shit is just societal.  Like if weeds not sober, what about these meds that I would never take that people are on?
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Post by: Sleazy on December 03, 2019, 11:27:28 AM
the latest nine club has some good talking about chilling on drinking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNr-0SoBQ2g&feature=emb_title

i took the whole week off my program last week for the holiday but i'm back on it this week. didn't drink last night and felt good to not be tired. but i did enjoy enjoying some drinks last week, just didn't go HAM
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Post by: rawr1922 on December 04, 2019, 11:59:22 AM
Excited to watch that nine club later today. Remember Rowley saying drugs & alcohol always win. Experienced pretty bad relapse two nights ago. Always think I have it under control with moderation concept then few months later, way off the rails. Really gonna try cold turkey. Day 2 soberville. Always feel like that aa scene in fight club when I visit this thread. Good luck to everybody fighting the same battle
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Post by: IusedToSkateMore on December 08, 2019, 08:14:19 PM
started smoking weed again and thinking about drinking again

yo homie, you can stay off the sauce if you want. It's hard but, ime, the longer you hold out, the better you feel. just sayin. stay strong man
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Post by: fulfillthedream on December 09, 2019, 09:19:21 PM
i flushed the last nug i had down the toilet last night

i love weed but ive just done it for so long i wanna break. lets see how long it lasts.

i plan to def blaze when i go back home which is jan 18th

but i wanna have at least 2-3 weeks off the green from now.

any tips?
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Post by: Sleazy on December 10, 2019, 09:06:31 AM
i flushed the last nug i had down the toilet last night

i love weed but ive just done it for so long i wanna break. lets see how long it lasts.

i plan to def blaze when i go back home which is jan 18th

but i wanna have at least 2-3 weeks off the green from now.

any tips?

for me when i quit smoking then and cut back drinking now daily retrospectives where key. i guess that fits into the one day at a time thing but for me it's way easier on day 2 because i can wake up and think was day one and the morning of day 2 better or worst than it would have been if i smoked/drink. most of the time the answer is yes and that makes it easier to go one more day. i've been doing the same thing with moderating my drinking. i pretty much know the difference my day will be now if i drink or don't at night and i have gotten to value having a productive day, not being tried, having a pumped up work out, etc... over a few drinks.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: thot juice on December 11, 2019, 05:50:24 PM
QUIT WHILE YOURE AHEAD

I started doing a lot of coke 3 yrs ago - live in a major city where ppl party a lot and itís not uncommon particularly among skateboarders. Felt like was living lavish was having lots of fun making lots of money no real concerns. Eventually freaked out and felt I was doing a lot of damage to my nose so quit everything cold turkey in September 2018 - went pretty smoothly, drank lots of San pellegrino, worked out, was feeling pretty good was looking good. Ended up relapsing this summer during the month of July for basically whole month. Felt something was off so quit cold turkey end of July. Been sober since but recently started experiencing server pains in my nose, pain continued almost constantly for a few weeks and Iíve since had it checked by 5 separate GPs and a ENT specialist all of whom said it was okay.  I still insisted on a cat scan of sinuses, Cat scan didnít show anything but the pain has yet to go away and Iíve never been more traumatized now that I am fully read on some of the horrifying consequences of regular  cocaine abuse. If I had stuck out my first attempt at sobriety and quit while I was ahead Iíd still be in the clear, happy and care free. I know recovery is tough and relapse is sometimes inevitable but BE CAREFUL sometimes one more time is one too many. Stay safe.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Idk on December 17, 2019, 07:52:20 AM
Took 2 oxy last night. :/
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Post by: no habla mango on December 17, 2019, 07:59:36 AM
Took 2 oxy last night. :/
this ain't the 'things you are stoked on' thread.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: casper on December 17, 2019, 08:03:48 AM
Weed is a plant not a drug

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Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: iKobrakai on December 17, 2019, 08:28:29 AM
Weed is a plant not a drug

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Heroin is semi-organic, what is your point?
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: casper on December 17, 2019, 08:49:15 AM
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Heroin is semi-organic, what is your point?

Semi-organic heroin vs weed? Whatís your point?

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Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on December 17, 2019, 09:35:37 AM
Might go for a multi month sobet streak comming up traveling.   Ya never know.   I could prolly still have fun even.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: jtrpma on December 17, 2019, 10:04:24 AM
Weed is a plant not a drug

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weed is a plant and a drug and nowadays medical strains have close to zero in common with naturally grown wild plants.
i love growing weed and if you (occasionally) smoke it you might seem more sympathetic to me than if you wouldn't.

you just chose the wrong thread for arguments of a teenager caught red-eyed by his mom.


/thread
strength to all sober pals (en)during all that holiday binge culture.
i really dread being around drunk people that much even though it just affirms my desire to not be one of them.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: shucknjive on December 17, 2019, 10:40:20 AM
its a drug but so fucking what

im gon legalize it
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: fakie nollie on December 17, 2019, 11:06:32 AM
I have come to the conclusion that I am a social drinker. Struggled with social anxiety as long as I can remember (now 31) and use booze to combat awkward family and social situations. Ive noticed that I'll drink heavily but feel fine. However, as soon as the social event ends and I'm able to relax, it all hits me.

Wife and I are going to grab dinner with our neighbors tomorrow, will probably get hammered by accident. Hoping I stay strong.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: iKobrakai on December 17, 2019, 11:46:50 AM
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Weed is a plant not a drug

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weed is a plant and a drug and nowadays medical strains have close to zero in common with naturally grown wild plants.
i love growing weed and if you (occasionally) smoke it you might seem more sympathetic to me than if you wouldn't.

you just chose the wrong thread for arguments of a teenager caught red-eyed by his mom.


/thread
strength to all sober pals (en)during all that holiday binge culture.
i really dread being around drunk people that much even though it just affirms my desire to not be one of them.

Yes, the kid seems to struggle with context.

I've had some nightmares about dope lately. Also, strange mood swings between being proud of how far I've come to strange desire to go down town to score a bag. But I've been around for a while and know that I'll be fine, as long as I keep doing things that have proven to work.

Good luck to y'all. Stay safe, many tend to fall down hard during Christmas and New Year.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: straight on December 17, 2019, 12:29:45 PM
will probably get hammered by accident

thatís binge drinking . itís a warning sign . but my opinion is that as long as your safe and fun to be around then thatís the point of alcohol right
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: morningcommute on December 17, 2019, 01:05:09 PM
Shout out to everyone who's making a conscious effort to improve their lives, in part, by the choice of sobriety.
I hope you all have a Shalom holiday season and stay strong.
You are by no means a failure if you relapse, but you may feel better about yourself if you can overcome your urges and abstain.

If you like not being sober 100% of the time then shalom to you too. Everyone's decisions and reasoning regarding drink and drugs is unique.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on December 17, 2019, 01:37:57 PM
I have come to the conclusion that I am a social drinker. Struggled with social anxiety as long as I can remember (now 31) and use booze to combat awkward family and social situations. Ive noticed that I'll drink heavily but feel fine. However, as soon as the social event ends and I'm able to relax, it all hits me.

Wife and I are going to grab dinner with our neighbors tomorrow, will probably get hammered by accident. Hoping I stay strong.

  Just saying maybe try experimenting with cannabis edibles.  I get pretty loose at work with the edibles, there is some yawn-y side effects but its good to mix it up and not turn into a  drunk.   Uh there's micro dosing extasy too ya know.  Or get a gram of blow, be selfish with it and don't drink at all.  Then get drunk some other time, all's Im saying is there's a world of substances out there and getting imaginative will help keep you out of dependancy.  Why not ?
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: woodsman on December 17, 2019, 01:47:25 PM
 Beautifully said commuters. Iím struggling but getting some sober practice for the holidays. A lot of suicide in the family so Christmas is something to just get through. Whatever your mental or sobriety state I hope everyone stays safe. Peace and Love
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: fakie nollie on December 18, 2019, 08:45:35 AM
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I have come to the conclusion that I am a social drinker. Struggled with social anxiety as long as I can remember (now 31) and use booze to combat awkward family and social situations. Ive noticed that I'll drink heavily but feel fine. However, as soon as the social event ends and I'm able to relax, it all hits me.

Wife and I are going to grab dinner with our neighbors tomorrow, will probably get hammered by accident. Hoping I stay strong.
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  Just saying maybe try experimenting with cannabis edibles.  I get pretty loose at work with the edibles, there is some yawn-y side effects but its good to mix it up and not turn into a  drunk.   Uh there's micro dosing extasy too ya know.  Or get a gram of blow, be selfish with it and don't drink at all.  Then get drunk some other time, all's Im saying is there's a world of substances out there and getting imaginative will help keep you out of dependancy.  Why not ?

I live in California and grew up using copious amounts of cannabis but, unfortunately, any strain or amount gives me ridiculously high anxiety. Thought about micro-dosing LSD but wife would be pissed if she found a sheet of acid in the house.

I rarely do a "New Years Resolution" as I find associating a specific date to change a bit odd... but have a couple coming for next year. #1 is to get back in shape, #2 is to stop drinking for the sake of killing anxiety.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on December 18, 2019, 08:57:19 AM
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I have come to the conclusion that I am a social drinker. Struggled with social anxiety as long as I can remember (now 31) and use booze to combat awkward family and social situations. Ive noticed that I'll drink heavily but feel fine. However, as soon as the social event ends and I'm able to relax, it all hits me.

Wife and I are going to grab dinner with our neighbors tomorrow, will probably get hammered by accident. Hoping I stay strong.
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  Just saying maybe try experimenting with cannabis edibles.  I get pretty loose at work with the edibles, there is some yawn-y side effects but its good to mix it up and not turn into a  drunk.   Uh there's micro dosing extasy too ya know.  Or get a gram of blow, be selfish with it and don't drink at all.  Then get drunk some other time, all's Im saying is there's a world of substances out there and getting imaginative will help keep you out of dependancy.  Why not ?
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I live in California and grew up using copious amounts of cannabis but, unfortunately, any strain or amount gives me ridiculously high anxiety. Thought about micro-dosing LSD but wife would be pissed if she found a sheet of acid in the house.

I rarely do a "New Years Resolution" as I find associating a specific date to change a bit odd... but have a couple coming for next year. #1 is to get back in shape, #2 is to stop drinking for the sake of killing anxiety.
   I can feel u with pot increaing the anxitey but oral might be different for u?  Alot people get put off cause of the effects of smoking or vaping or accidently od-ing with the edibles.  Expeimenting with low dose edibles might provide different results.  My brother thought pot gave him anixity but found a new window later in life where it helps him sleep now and chill when off work.  Appologize here if im telling u stuff u already know btw.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: fakie nollie on December 18, 2019, 09:24:23 AM
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I have come to the conclusion that I am a social drinker. Struggled with social anxiety as long as I can remember (now 31) and use booze to combat awkward family and social situations. Ive noticed that I'll drink heavily but feel fine. However, as soon as the social event ends and I'm able to relax, it all hits me.

Wife and I are going to grab dinner with our neighbors tomorrow, will probably get hammered by accident. Hoping I stay strong.
[close]

  Just saying maybe try experimenting with cannabis edibles.  I get pretty loose at work with the edibles, there is some yawn-y side effects but its good to mix it up and not turn into a  drunk.   Uh there's micro dosing extasy too ya know.  Or get a gram of blow, be selfish with it and don't drink at all.  Then get drunk some other time, all's Im saying is there's a world of substances out there and getting imaginative will help keep you out of dependancy.  Why not ?
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I live in California and grew up using copious amounts of cannabis but, unfortunately, any strain or amount gives me ridiculously high anxiety. Thought about micro-dosing LSD but wife would be pissed if she found a sheet of acid in the house.

I rarely do a "New Years Resolution" as I find associating a specific date to change a bit odd... but have a couple coming for next year. #1 is to get back in shape, #2 is to stop drinking for the sake of killing anxiety.
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   I can feel u with pot increaing the anxitey but oral might be different for u?  Alot people get put off cause of the effects of smoking or vaping or accidently od-ing with the edibles.  Expeimenting with low dose edibles might provide different results.  My brother thought pot gave him anixity but found a new window later in life where it helps him sleep now and chill when off work.  Appologize here if im telling u stuff u already know btw.

All good but, I gotta ask... are you drunk right now?
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on December 18, 2019, 10:40:30 AM
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I have come to the conclusion that I am a social drinker. Struggled with social anxiety as long as I can remember (now 31) and use booze to combat awkward family and social situations. Ive noticed that I'll drink heavily but feel fine. However, as soon as the social event ends and I'm able to relax, it all hits me.

Wife and I are going to grab dinner with our neighbors tomorrow, will probably get hammered by accident. Hoping I stay strong.
[close]

  Just saying maybe try experimenting with cannabis edibles.  I get pretty loose at work with the edibles, there is some yawn-y side effects but its good to mix it up and not turn into a  drunk.   Uh there's micro dosing extasy too ya know.  Or get a gram of blow, be selfish with it and don't drink at all.  Then get drunk some other time, all's Im saying is there's a world of substances out there and getting imaginative will help keep you out of dependancy.  Why not ?
[close]

I live in California and grew up using copious amounts of cannabis but, unfortunately, any strain or amount gives me ridiculously high anxiety. Thought about micro-dosing LSD but wife would be pissed if she found a sheet of acid in the house.

I rarely do a "New Years Resolution" as I find associating a specific date to change a bit odd... but have a couple coming for next year. #1 is to get back in shape, #2 is to stop drinking for the sake of killing anxiety.
[close]
   I can feel u with pot increaing the anxitey but oral might be different for u?  Alot people get put off cause of the effects of smoking or vaping or accidently od-ing with the edibles.  Expeimenting with low dose edibles might provide different results.  My brother thought pot gave him anixity but found a new window later in life where it helps him sleep now and chill when off work.  Appologize here if im telling u stuff u already know btw.
[close]

All good but, I gotta ask... are you drunk right now?
  Stoned all the time on weed.  I don't really drink cause it makes me listless.  Havent been drunk in more than a year and that was prolly only 5 beers anyway.  I broke my rib skating flatground after leaving the pub that nite.  That irish stout fucks me up.  If Im travelling I might get into some party drugs.  I always do acid or mushrooms every 6 months or so but sometimes I ramp that up a bit.  If im surfing alot I'll start with more of the acid.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: no habla mango on December 18, 2019, 10:45:34 AM
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I have come to the conclusion that I am a social drinker. Struggled with social anxiety as long as I can remember (now 31) and use booze to combat awkward family and social situations. Ive noticed that I'll drink heavily but feel fine. However, as soon as the social event ends and I'm able to relax, it all hits me.

Wife and I are going to grab dinner with our neighbors tomorrow, will probably get hammered by accident. Hoping I stay strong.
[close]

  Just saying maybe try experimenting with cannabis edibles.  I get pretty loose at work with the edibles, there is some yawn-y side effects but its good to mix it up and not turn into a  drunk.   Uh there's micro dosing extasy too ya know.  Or get a gram of blow, be selfish with it and don't drink at all.  Then get drunk some other time, all's Im saying is there's a world of substances out there and getting imaginative will help keep you out of dependancy.  Why not ?
[close]

I live in California and grew up using copious amounts of cannabis but, unfortunately, any strain or amount gives me ridiculously high anxiety. Thought about micro-dosing LSD but wife would be pissed if she found a sheet of acid in the house.

I rarely do a "New Years Resolution" as I find associating a specific date to change a bit odd... but have a couple coming for next year. #1 is to get back in shape, #2 is to stop drinking for the sake of killing anxiety.
[close]
   I can feel u with pot increaing the anxitey but oral might be different for u?  Alot people get put off cause of the effects of smoking or vaping or accidently od-ing with the edibles.  Expeimenting with low dose edibles might provide different results.  My brother thought pot gave him anixity but found a new window later in life where it helps him sleep now and chill when off work.  Appologize here if im telling u stuff u already know btw.
[close]

All good but, I gotta ask... are you drunk right now?
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  Stoned all the time on weed.  I don't really drink cause it makes me listless.  Havent been drunk in more than a year and that was prolly only 5 beers anyway.  I broke my rib skating flatground after leaving the pub that nite.  That irish stout fucks me up.  If Im travelling I might get into some party drugs.  I always do acid or mushrooms every 6 months or so but sometimes I ramp that up a bit.  If im surfing alot I'll start with more of the acid.
what if locals karate chop your board and send you into a bad trip? i've seen some brutal fights over who's wave it is.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on December 18, 2019, 11:13:25 AM
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I have come to the conclusion that I am a social drinker. Struggled with social anxiety as long as I can remember (now 31) and use booze to combat awkward family and social situations. Ive noticed that I'll drink heavily but feel fine. However, as soon as the social event ends and I'm able to relax, it all hits me.

Wife and I are going to grab dinner with our neighbors tomorrow, will probably get hammered by accident. Hoping I stay strong.
[close]

  Just saying maybe try experimenting with cannabis edibles.  I get pretty loose at work with the edibles, there is some yawn-y side effects but its good to mix it up and not turn into a  drunk.   Uh there's micro dosing extasy too ya know.  Or get a gram of blow, be selfish with it and don't drink at all.  Then get drunk some other time, all's Im saying is there's a world of substances out there and getting imaginative will help keep you out of dependancy.  Why not ?
[close]

I live in California and grew up using copious amounts of cannabis but, unfortunately, any strain or amount gives me ridiculously high anxiety. Thought about micro-dosing LSD but wife would be pissed if she found a sheet of acid in the house.

I rarely do a "New Years Resolution" as I find associating a specific date to change a bit odd... but have a couple coming for next year. #1 is to get back in shape, #2 is to stop drinking for the sake of killing anxiety.
[close]
   I can feel u with pot increaing the anxitey but oral might be different for u?  Alot people get put off cause of the effects of smoking or vaping or accidently od-ing with the edibles.  Expeimenting with low dose edibles might provide different results.  My brother thought pot gave him anixity but found a new window later in life where it helps him sleep now and chill when off work.  Appologize here if im telling u stuff u already know btw.
[close]

All good but, I gotta ask... are you drunk right now?
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  Stoned all the time on weed.  I don't really drink cause it makes me listless.  Havent been drunk in more than a year and that was prolly only 5 beers anyway.  I broke my rib skating flatground after leaving the pub that nite.  That irish stout fucks me up.  If Im travelling I might get into some party drugs.  I always do acid or mushrooms every 6 months or so but sometimes I ramp that up a bit.  If im surfing alot I'll start with more of the acid.
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what if locals karate chop your board and send you into a bad trip? i've seen some brutal fights over who's wave it is.
  People hate me for sure.  The weird thing with the acid is i find shiddy aggressive  line ups actually add to the fun (because ultimately navigating a line up is metal jit jit su).  Ive gotten so stoked ive forgotten i took the acid.   
  Lol i think the last time i was in the water i was on acid.  I rode a wave that was worth remembering and jumped off my board and the offshores were so strong the board flipped and the striger came in violent contact with the top of my head.  ALL of my teeth hurt from the blow.  There was one other dude out and he said, "ive never in my life seen anyone hit in the head with anything that hard in my life"
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: slippy on December 18, 2019, 02:51:05 PM
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I have come to the conclusion that I am a social drinker. Struggled with social anxiety as long as I can remember (now 31) and use booze to combat awkward family and social situations. Ive noticed that I'll drink heavily but feel fine. However, as soon as the social event ends and I'm able to relax, it all hits me.

Wife and I are going to grab dinner with our neighbors tomorrow, will probably get hammered by accident. Hoping I stay strong.
[close]

  Just saying maybe try experimenting with cannabis edibles.  I get pretty loose at work with the edibles, there is some yawn-y side effects but its good to mix it up and not turn into a  drunk.   Uh there's micro dosing extasy too ya know.  Or get a gram of blow, be selfish with it and don't drink at all.  Then get drunk some other time, all's Im saying is there's a world of substances out there and getting imaginative will help keep you out of dependancy.  Why not ?
[close]

I live in California and grew up using copious amounts of cannabis but, unfortunately, any strain or amount gives me ridiculously high anxiety. Thought about micro-dosing LSD but wife would be pissed if she found a sheet of acid in the house.

I rarely do a "New Years Resolution" as I find associating a specific date to change a bit odd... but have a couple coming for next year. #1 is to get back in shape, #2 is to stop drinking for the sake of killing anxiety.
[close]
   I can feel u with pot increaing the anxitey but oral might be different for u?  Alot people get put off cause of the effects of smoking or vaping or accidently od-ing with the edibles.  Expeimenting with low dose edibles might provide different results.  My brother thought pot gave him anixity but found a new window later in life where it helps him sleep now and chill when off work.  Appologize here if im telling u stuff u already know btw.
[close]

All good but, I gotta ask... are you drunk right now?
[close]
  Stoned all the time on weed.  I don't really drink cause it makes me listless.  Havent been drunk in more than a year and that was prolly only 5 beers anyway.  I broke my rib skating flatground after leaving the pub that nite.  That irish stout fucks me up.  If Im travelling I might get into some party drugs.  I always do acid or mushrooms every 6 months or so but sometimes I ramp that up a bit.  If im surfing alot I'll start with more of the acid.
[close]
what if locals karate chop your board and send you into a bad trip? i've seen some brutal fights over who's wave it is.
[close]
  People hate me for sure.  The weird thing with the acid is i find shiddy aggressive  line ups actually add to the fun (because ultimately navigating a line up is metal jit jit su).  Ive gotten so stoked ive forgotten i took the acid.   
  Lol i think the last time i was in the water i was on acid.  I rode a wave that was worth remembering and jumped off my board and the offshores were so strong the board flipped and the striger came in violent contact with the top of my head.  ALL of my teeth hurt from the blow.  There was one other dude out and he said, "ive never in my life seen anyone hit in the head with anything that hard in my life"

That's some Suciu level wordsmithing
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: fakie nollie on December 18, 2019, 03:32:44 PM
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I have come to the conclusion that I am a social drinker. Struggled with social anxiety as long as I can remember (now 31) and use booze to combat awkward family and social situations. Ive noticed that I'll drink heavily but feel fine. However, as soon as the social event ends and I'm able to relax, it all hits me.

Wife and I are going to grab dinner with our neighbors tomorrow, will probably get hammered by accident. Hoping I stay strong.
[close]

  Just saying maybe try experimenting with cannabis edibles.  I get pretty loose at work with the edibles, there is some yawn-y side effects but its good to mix it up and not turn into a  drunk.   Uh there's micro dosing extasy too ya know.  Or get a gram of blow, be selfish with it and don't drink at all.  Then get drunk some other time, all's Im saying is there's a world of substances out there and getting imaginative will help keep you out of dependancy.  Why not ?
[close]

I live in California and grew up using copious amounts of cannabis but, unfortunately, any strain or amount gives me ridiculously high anxiety. Thought about micro-dosing LSD but wife would be pissed if she found a sheet of acid in the house.

I rarely do a "New Years Resolution" as I find associating a specific date to change a bit odd... but have a couple coming for next year. #1 is to get back in shape, #2 is to stop drinking for the sake of killing anxiety.
[close]
   I can feel u with pot increaing the anxitey but oral might be different for u?  Alot people get put off cause of the effects of smoking or vaping or accidently od-ing with the edibles.  Expeimenting with low dose edibles might provide different results.  My brother thought pot gave him anixity but found a new window later in life where it helps him sleep now and chill when off work.  Appologize here if im telling u stuff u already know btw.
[close]

All good but, I gotta ask... are you drunk right now?
[close]
  Stoned all the time on weed.  I don't really drink cause it makes me listless.  Havent been drunk in more than a year and that was prolly only 5 beers anyway.  I broke my rib skating flatground after leaving the pub that nite.  That irish stout fucks me up.  If Im travelling I might get into some party drugs.  I always do acid or mushrooms every 6 months or so but sometimes I ramp that up a bit.  If im surfing alot I'll start with more of the acid.
[close]
what if locals karate chop your board and send you into a bad trip? i've seen some brutal fights over who's wave it is.
[close]
  People hate me for sure.  The weird thing with the acid is i find shiddy aggressive  line ups actually add to the fun (because ultimately navigating a line up is metal jit jit su).  Ive gotten so stoked ive forgotten i took the acid.   
  Lol i think the last time i was in the water i was on acid.  I rode a wave that was worth remembering and jumped off my board and the offshores were so strong the board flipped and the striger came in violent contact with the top of my head.  ALL of my teeth hurt from the blow.  There was one other dude out and he said, "ive never in my life seen anyone hit in the head with anything that hard in my life"
[close]

That's some Suciu level wordsmithing

Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on December 18, 2019, 05:25:27 PM
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I have come to the conclusion that I am a social drinker. Struggled with social anxiety as long as I can remember (now 31) and use booze to combat awkward family and social situations. Ive noticed that I'll drink heavily but feel fine. However, as soon as the social event ends and I'm able to relax, it all hits me.

Wife and I are going to grab dinner with our neighbors tomorrow, will probably get hammered by accident. Hoping I stay strong.
[close]

  Just saying maybe try experimenting with cannabis edibles.  I get pretty loose at work with the edibles, there is some yawn-y side effects but its good to mix it up and not turn into a  drunk.   Uh there's micro dosing extasy too ya know.  Or get a gram of blow, be selfish with it and don't drink at all.  Then get drunk some other time, all's Im saying is there's a world of substances out there and getting imaginative will help keep you out of dependancy.  Why not ?
[close]

I live in California and grew up using copious amounts of cannabis but, unfortunately, any strain or amount gives me ridiculously high anxiety. Thought about micro-dosing LSD but wife would be pissed if she found a sheet of acid in the house.

I rarely do a "New Years Resolution" as I find associating a specific date to change a bit odd... but have a couple coming for next year. #1 is to get back in shape, #2 is to stop drinking for the sake of killing anxiety.
[close]
   I can feel u with pot increaing the anxitey but oral might be different for u?  Alot people get put off cause of the effects of smoking or vaping or accidently od-ing with the edibles.  Expeimenting with low dose edibles might provide different results.  My brother thought pot gave him anixity but found a new window later in life where it helps him sleep now and chill when off work.  Appologize here if im telling u stuff u already know btw.
[close]

All good but, I gotta ask... are you drunk right now?
[close]
  Stoned all the time on weed.  I don't really drink cause it makes me listless.  Havent been drunk in more than a year and that was prolly only 5 beers anyway.  I broke my rib skating flatground after leaving the pub that nite.  That irish stout fucks me up.  If Im travelling I might get into some party drugs.  I always do acid or mushrooms every 6 months or so but sometimes I ramp that up a bit.  If im surfing alot I'll start with more of the acid.
[close]
what if locals karate chop your board and send you into a bad trip? i've seen some brutal fights over who's wave it is.
[close]
  People hate me for sure.  The weird thing with the acid is i find shiddy aggressive  line ups actually add to the fun (because ultimately navigating a line up is metal jit jit su).  Ive gotten so stoked ive forgotten i took the acid.   
  Lol i think the last time i was in the water i was on acid.  I rode a wave that was worth remembering and jumped off my board and the offshores were so strong the board flipped and the striger came in violent contact with the top of my head.  ALL of my teeth hurt from the blow.  There was one other dude out and he said, "ive never in my life seen anyone hit in the head with anything that hard in my life"
[close]

That's some Suciu level wordsmithing
[close]

Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?
  Wow ur an insincere cunt!  I was jus trying to help, ur life wasnt sounding to fun.  Need to be drunk to stand ur wifes friends.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: fakie nollie on December 19, 2019, 01:55:20 PM
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I have come to the conclusion that I am a social drinker. Struggled with social anxiety as long as I can remember (now 31) and use booze to combat awkward family and social situations. Ive noticed that I'll drink heavily but feel fine. However, as soon as the social event ends and I'm able to relax, it all hits me.

Wife and I are going to grab dinner with our neighbors tomorrow, will probably get hammered by accident. Hoping I stay strong.
[close]

  Just saying maybe try experimenting with cannabis edibles.  I get pretty loose at work with the edibles, there is some yawn-y side effects but its good to mix it up and not turn into a  drunk.   Uh there's micro dosing extasy too ya know.  Or get a gram of blow, be selfish with it and don't drink at all.  Then get drunk some other time, all's Im saying is there's a world of substances out there and getting imaginative will help keep you out of dependancy.  Why not ?
[close]

I live in California and grew up using copious amounts of cannabis but, unfortunately, any strain or amount gives me ridiculously high anxiety. Thought about micro-dosing LSD but wife would be pissed if she found a sheet of acid in the house.

I rarely do a "New Years Resolution" as I find associating a specific date to change a bit odd... but have a couple coming for next year. #1 is to get back in shape, #2 is to stop drinking for the sake of killing anxiety.
[close]
   I can feel u with pot increaing the anxitey but oral might be different for u?  Alot people get put off cause of the effects of smoking or vaping or accidently od-ing with the edibles.  Expeimenting with low dose edibles might provide different results.  My brother thought pot gave him anixity but found a new window later in life where it helps him sleep now and chill when off work.  Appologize here if im telling u stuff u already know btw.
[close]

All good but, I gotta ask... are you drunk right now?
[close]
  Stoned all the time on weed.  I don't really drink cause it makes me listless.  Havent been drunk in more than a year and that was prolly only 5 beers anyway.  I broke my rib skating flatground after leaving the pub that nite.  That irish stout fucks me up.  If Im travelling I might get into some party drugs.  I always do acid or mushrooms every 6 months or so but sometimes I ramp that up a bit.  If im surfing alot I'll start with more of the acid.
[close]
what if locals karate chop your board and send you into a bad trip? i've seen some brutal fights over who's wave it is.
[close]
  People hate me for sure.  The weird thing with the acid is i find shiddy aggressive  line ups actually add to the fun (because ultimately navigating a line up is metal jit jit su).  Ive gotten so stoked ive forgotten i took the acid.   
  Lol i think the last time i was in the water i was on acid.  I rode a wave that was worth remembering and jumped off my board and the offshores were so strong the board flipped and the striger came in violent contact with the top of my head.  ALL of my teeth hurt from the blow.  There was one other dude out and he said, "ive never in my life seen anyone hit in the head with anything that hard in my life"
[close]

That's some Suciu level wordsmithing
[close]

Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?
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  Wow ur an insincere cunt!  I was jus trying to help, ur life wasnt sounding to fun.  Need to be drunk to stand ur wifes friends.

They're both our friends. Update- went to dinner last night and I consumed 2.5 doubles of whisky. Accidentally yelled "Boomer" in a restaurant full of boomers. Wife told our Lebanese friend she'd never visit the middle east, that spiced up the evening. Altogether a great time!

This conversation makes me want to drink.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: WastedHippy on December 19, 2019, 10:10:11 PM
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I have come to the conclusion that I am a social drinker. Struggled with social anxiety as long as I can remember (now 31) and use booze to combat awkward family and social situations. Ive noticed that I'll drink heavily but feel fine. However, as soon as the social event ends and I'm able to relax, it all hits me.

Wife and I are going to grab dinner with our neighbors tomorrow, will probably get hammered by accident. Hoping I stay strong.
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  Just saying maybe try experimenting with cannabis edibles.  I get pretty loose at work with the edibles, there is some yawn-y side effects but its good to mix it up and not turn into a  drunk.   Uh there's micro dosing extasy too ya know.  Or get a gram of blow, be selfish with it and don't drink at all.  Then get drunk some other time, all's Im saying is there's a world of substances out there and getting imaginative will help keep you out of dependancy.  Why not ?
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I live in California and grew up using copious amounts of cannabis but, unfortunately, any strain or amount gives me ridiculously high anxiety. Thought about micro-dosing LSD but wife would be pissed if she found a sheet of acid in the house.

I rarely do a "New Years Resolution" as I find associating a specific date to change a bit odd... but have a couple coming for next year. #1 is to get back in shape, #2 is to stop drinking for the sake of killing anxiety.
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   I can feel u with pot increaing the anxitey but oral might be different for u?  Alot people get put off cause of the effects of smoking or vaping or accidently od-ing with the edibles.  Expeimenting with low dose edibles might provide different results.  My brother thought pot gave him anixity but found a new window later in life where it helps him sleep now and chill when off work.  Appologize here if im telling u stuff u already know btw.
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All good but, I gotta ask... are you drunk right now?
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  Stoned all the time on weed.  I don't really drink cause it makes me listless.  Havent been drunk in more than a year and that was prolly only 5 beers anyway.  I broke my rib skating flatground after leaving the pub that nite.  That irish stout fucks me up.  If Im travelling I might get into some party drugs.  I always do acid or mushrooms every 6 months or so but sometimes I ramp that up a bit.  If im surfing alot I'll start with more of the acid.
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what if locals karate chop your board and send you into a bad trip? i've seen some brutal fights over who's wave it is.
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  People hate me for sure.  The weird thing with the acid is i find shiddy aggressive  line ups actually add to the fun (because ultimately navigating a line up is metal jit jit su).  Ive gotten so stoked ive forgotten i took the acid.   
  Lol i think the last time i was in the water i was on acid.  I rode a wave that was worth remembering and jumped off my board and the offshores were so strong the board flipped and the striger came in violent contact with the top of my head.  ALL of my teeth hurt from the blow.  There was one other dude out and he said, "ive never in my life seen anyone hit in the head with anything that hard in my life"
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That's some Suciu level wordsmithing
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Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?

lmao I'll answer for him and say yes.

Your dinner sounded hilarious, yelling boomer loudly in the restaurant haha
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I have come to the conclusion that I am a social drinker. Struggled with social anxiety as long as I can remember (now 31) and use booze to combat awkward family and social situations. Ive noticed that I'll drink heavily but feel fine. However, as soon as the social event ends and I'm able to relax, it all hits me.

Wife and I are going to grab dinner with our neighbors tomorrow, will probably get hammered by accident. Hoping I stay strong.
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  Just saying maybe try experimenting with cannabis edibles.  I get pretty loose at work with the edibles, there is some yawn-y side effects but its good to mix it up and not turn into a  drunk.   Uh there's micro dosing extasy too ya know.  Or get a gram of blow, be selfish with it and don't drink at all.  Then get drunk some other time, all's Im saying is there's a world of substances out there and getting imaginative will help keep you out of dependancy.  Why not ?
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I live in California and grew up using copious amounts of cannabis but, unfortunately, any strain or amount gives me ridiculously high anxiety. Thought about micro-dosing LSD but wife would be pissed if she found a sheet of acid in the house.

I rarely do a "New Years Resolution" as I find associating a specific date to change a bit odd... but have a couple coming for next year. #1 is to get back in shape, #2 is to stop drinking for the sake of killing anxiety.
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   I can feel u with pot increaing the anxitey but oral might be different for u?  Alot people get put off cause of the effects of smoking or vaping or accidently od-ing with the edibles.  Expeimenting with low dose edibles might provide different results.  My brother thought pot gave him anixity but found a new window later in life where it helps him sleep now and chill when off work.  Appologize here if im telling u stuff u already know btw.
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All good but, I gotta ask... are you drunk right now?
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  Stoned all the time on weed.  I don't really drink cause it makes me listless.  Havent been drunk in more than a year and that was prolly only 5 beers anyway.  I broke my rib skating flatground after leaving the pub that nite.  That irish stout fucks me up.  If Im travelling I might get into some party drugs.  I always do acid or mushrooms every 6 months or so but sometimes I ramp that up a bit.  If im surfing alot I'll start with more of the acid.
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what if locals karate chop your board and send you into a bad trip? i've seen some brutal fights over who's wave it is.
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  People hate me for sure.  The weird thing with the acid is i find shiddy aggressive  line ups actually add to the fun (because ultimately navigating a line up is metal jit jit su).  Ive gotten so stoked ive forgotten i took the acid.   
  Lol i think the last time i was in the water i was on acid.  I rode a wave that was worth remembering and jumped off my board and the offshores were so strong the board flipped and the striger came in violent contact with the top of my head.  ALL of my teeth hurt from the blow.  There was one other dude out and he said, "ive never in my life seen anyone hit in the head with anything that hard in my life"
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That's some Suciu level wordsmithing
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Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?
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  Wow ur an insincere cunt!  I was jus trying to help, ur life wasnt sounding to fun.  Need to be drunk to stand ur wifes friends.
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They're both our friends. Update- went to dinner last night and I consumed 2.5 doubles of whisky. Accidentally yelled "Boomer" in a restaurant full of boomers. Wife told our Lebanese friend she'd never visit the middle east, that spiced up the evening. Altogether a great time!

This conversation makes me want to drink.

lulzzzz that's really funny haha sounds awkward but funny!  Especially the Middle East part, sheesh
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Post by: dbart on December 20, 2019, 11:02:32 AM
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Its completely normal in Canada to drink every day, and not small amounts either.

If you drink 24 cans of beer a day that's considered pretty normal.

I can back that up... I also have been trying to quit drinking though.. it was mostly cause of problems with my ex and stuff like that. got into some messy situations drinking heavy and doing drugs.. fights, getting stranded, spending a check in one night. just gotta chill when i do drink and not go overboard. me and my friends dont know when to stop.. many sleepless nights filled with shenanigans and lots of blow.. ahhaha fuck. I find if you just try to control yourself you can get by with it.. just cant binge and shit like that constantly

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Post by: fakie nollie on December 21, 2019, 06:47:24 AM
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Its completely normal in Canada to drink every day, and not small amounts either.

If you drink 24 cans of beer a day that's considered pretty normal.
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I can back that up... I also have been trying to quit drinking though.. it was mostly cause of problems with my ex and stuff like that. got into some messy situations drinking heavy and doing drugs.. fights, getting stranded, spending a check in one night. just gotta chill when i do drink and not go overboard. me and my friends dont know when to stop.. many sleepless nights filled with shenanigans and lots of blow.. ahhaha fuck. I find if you just try to control yourself you can get by with it.. just cant binge and shit like that constantly

24 cans of beer in a day? Thatís fucking metal.

I live in Southern California but am in Sweden once a month or so. Sweden in winter, along with their government sanctioned liquor stores, would make me want to do drugs. 3 hours of light is not meant to be lived in.
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Post by: Kevve on December 22, 2019, 08:46:22 PM
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Its completely normal in Canada to drink every day, and not small amounts either.

If you drink 24 cans of beer a day that's considered pretty normal.
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I can back that up... I also have been trying to quit drinking though.. it was mostly cause of problems with my ex and stuff like that. got into some messy situations drinking heavy and doing drugs.. fights, getting stranded, spending a check in one night. just gotta chill when i do drink and not go overboard. me and my friends dont know when to stop.. many sleepless nights filled with shenanigans and lots of blow.. ahhaha fuck. I find if you just try to control yourself you can get by with it.. just cant binge and shit like that constantly
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24 cans of beer in a day? Thatís fucking metal.

I live in Southern California but am in Sweden once a month or so. Sweden in winter, along with their government sanctioned liquor stores, would make me want to do drugs. 3 hours of light is not meant to be lived in.

Welcome to winter depression mate! It never hit me until some years ago that other places have more light hours even tho they have the same seasons as us. Growing up i never realised how little sunlight we get during winter..

I watched Dill on the nine club some weeks ago and he said something like he didnt see sunlight for a whole year, dude that is like half our lifes right there haha.

Scandinavian fall/winters is a 6 months long smoke session with hash only. That being said im gonna take a WHOLE WEEK from smoking between Christmas & new years.

I dont want to quit really
 just not smoke every day.. New week, new possibilities!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: iKobrakai on December 22, 2019, 10:13:54 PM
Got the news that one of AA dudes commited suicide. Very few are still sober.

Stay safe.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: samz on December 23, 2019, 07:19:49 AM
6 months sober today after reading about the This Naked Mind book on this forum. It worked - the author goes a bit preachy but it did what I need it to. Thanks Slap!
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Post by: Sleazy on December 23, 2019, 07:47:47 AM
6 months sober today after reading about the This Naked Mind book on this forum. It worked - the author goes a bit preachy but it did what I need it to. Thanks Slap!

nice!
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Post by: iKobrakai on December 23, 2019, 08:09:06 AM
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6 months sober today after reading about the This Naked Mind book on this forum. It worked - the author goes a bit preachy but it did what I need it to. Thanks Slap!
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nice!

Yeah, good job. Success stories are few and far between, so I'm glad for you.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: fakie nollie on December 23, 2019, 09:02:39 AM
Got the news that one of AA dudes commited suicide. Very few are still sober.

Stay safe.

Sorry to hear that.

Despite my social drinking, I had a few years of heavy benzo addiction and abuse that tore my life apart. After going to rehab, those were (at the time) some of the closest bonds I ever made with another man. Every week after leaving, a new text would come through about someone we were in treatment with either OD'ing or committing suicide. Recovery is a beast that is hard to tame.
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Post by: iKobrakai on December 23, 2019, 10:59:34 AM
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Got the news that one of AA dudes commited suicide. Very few are still sober.

Stay safe.
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Sorry to hear that.

Despite my social drinking, I had a few years of heavy benzo addiction and abuse that tore my life apart. After going to rehab, those were (at the time) some of the closest bonds I ever made with another man. Every week after leaving, a new text would come through about someone we were in treatment with either OD'ing or committing suicide. Recovery is a beast that is hard to tame.

Indeed. When you start life over from nothing, there are some strong bonds to be formed. When I came out of rehab I was afraid of my own shadow. My two, to be, best friends where sitting there in heavy withdrawal, so I had to provide some sanity in their nightmare. I was about four months sober. The bonds we formed there and then are still strong to this day.

Again, everybody, stay safe.
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Post by: woodsman on December 23, 2019, 01:35:33 PM
I have been through a ton of horrible medical problems lately. I just got cut off from oxycodone today because i took to much and ran out early. I have a colostomy bag and have to use crutches to leave the house. I have a vascular necrosis in my hip, dead bone I need a hip replacement and my intestines ruptured spilling shit into my body that required emergency surgery. I have been on Oxycodone for 5 months and my dr. Is out of town and the covering doc decided to cut me off from oxy. So Iím gonna go through intense withdrawals while 7 family members converge on my house for Christmas. I thought about just killing myself on Christmas Day but I think Iím going to try to ride it out. Here comes the pain. Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, 4th of July greetings. It really sucks how dependent you become on a drug like oxy.
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Post by: fakie nollie on December 23, 2019, 04:52:16 PM
I have been through a ton of horrible medical problems lately. I just got cut off from oxycodone today because i took to much and ran out early. I have a colostomy bag and have to use crutches to leave the house. I have a vascular necrosis in my hip, dead bone I need a hip replacement and my intestines ruptured spilling shit into my body that required emergency surgery. I have been on Oxycodone for 5 months and my dr. Is out of town and the covering doc decided to cut me off from oxy. So Iím gonna go through intense withdrawals while 7 family members converge on my house for Christmas. I thought about just killing myself on Christmas Day but I think Iím going to try to ride it out. Here comes the pain. Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, 4th of July greetings. It really sucks how dependent you become on a drug like oxy.

I am really sorry to hear that. Stay strong and ride it out. Tell your family you have the flu, whatever helps. Your Christmas miracle could be you kicking dope for good.
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Post by: iKobrakai on December 24, 2019, 12:30:33 AM
I ain't gonna lie, hell awaits. Good luck and try to get as much food and sleep as you can.
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Post by: os89 on December 24, 2019, 03:55:20 AM
Fuck I need to stop taking oxy too and I don't have any of the problems you have woodsman. Never mentioned it on here yet because I'm ashamed I guess. Feel like an asshole. Been on it past month or so. Not too long, but need to stop. I need to figure this shit out. God damn. Good luck bro, you can do it. What doesn't kill you, right?
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Post by: blowjobtofakie on December 24, 2019, 10:22:59 AM
Fuck I need to stop taking oxy too and I don't have any of the problems you have woodsman. Never mentioned it on here yet because I'm ashamed I guess. Feel like an asshole. Been on it past month or so. Not too long, but need to stop. I need to figure this shit out. God damn. Good luck bro, you can do it. What doesn't kill you, right?

Struggled with benzos of and on for a hellacious two years. Withdrawal is always a mother fucker, but coming of them is easier at one month, instead of two. Just taper of and accept that itís better to stop now than later. Donít be ashamed, happens to a lot of us around here. You got it, brotha. Always appreciate your posts, you seem to have your head on straight.
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Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on December 24, 2019, 10:47:06 AM
I have been through a ton of horrible medical problems lately. I just got cut off from oxycodone today because i took to much and ran out early. I have a colostomy bag and have to use crutches to leave the house. I have a vascular necrosis in my hip, dead bone I need a hip replacement and my intestines ruptured spilling shit into my body that required emergency surgery. I have been on Oxycodone for 5 months and my dr. Is out of town and the covering doc decided to cut me off from oxy. So Iím gonna go through intense withdrawals while 7 family members converge on my house for Christmas. I thought about just killing myself on Christmas Day but I think Iím going to try to ride it out. Here comes the pain. Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, 4th of July greetings. It really sucks how dependent you become on a drug like oxy.
   You could drag all ur shit downtown and score ur oxys lol but maybe that visiting doc is a blessing.  Nex time ur doc gives u some you could just sell it.   I dont know wtf happened to u man but heres to u comming back hard!  Good luck.
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Post by: os89 on December 25, 2019, 05:10:31 AM
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Fuck I need to stop taking oxy too and I don't have any of the problems you have woodsman. Never mentioned it on here yet because I'm ashamed I guess. Feel like an asshole. Been on it past month or so. Not too long, but need to stop. I need to figure this shit out. God damn. Good luck bro, you can do it. What doesn't kill you, right?
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Struggled with benzos of and on for a hellacious two years. Withdrawal is always a mother fucker, but coming of them is easier at one month, instead of two. Just taper of and accept that itís better to stop now than later. Donít be ashamed, happens to a lot of us around here. You got it, brotha. Always appreciate your posts, you seem to have your head on straight.

Thanks man. I (stupidly) tried to use the oxys like I did tramadol in the past to taper off drinking. That worked and wasnt drinking for a couple years but then back at it. This was probably a bad idea though. Just hasn't worked out. The tramadol actually helped me feel like I didn't need to drink, but the oxys have just made shit worse by basically just adding on. Going to try and taper off just feel like I fucked up so bad. Ugh
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Carrolls Chesthairs on December 25, 2019, 06:07:27 AM
Anybody try using CBD as a coping vice?

My girlfriend and I are planning a sober January.

I've sketched out potential activities, dates, and morning plans so I feel obligated to attend/skate/yoga with enough rest.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: fakie nollie on December 26, 2019, 08:55:15 AM
^^ No, but give it a go. Iíd say the best thing I ever did for my physical and mental health was staying totally sober from any substances for about a year after rehab.

Years ago (and prior to obliterating my memories with benzos), I heard something that stuck with me for about a decade, and still does. Thereís probably a psychological term for this but, basically, your current substance abuse reverts your brain to the state it was in when you first began substance abuse, primarily on the level in which your emotional maturity... well, matures. How you socially interact with people, experience love/loss, deal with stress etc.

I thought nothing of this until I actually using substances for an extended period of time and could actually tell I perceived all the aforementioned characteristics of my emotional health ďevolvingĒ. I became less self conscious, overcame social anxiety and learned how to love in a more mature way. Since I had began my perpetual use of drugs/alcohol at the age of 15 and ended at 25, I could actually see the drastic change in how I interacted with the above issues.

For anyone reading this, Iím not trying to preach total sobriety. All Iím saying is, if you give it a shot, thereís a chance you will emotionally evolve as a human.

Side note- due to heavy rain in Southern California yesterday, I was the DD for my wifeís family for about 100 miles worth of driving. That was the first Christmas spent with family I did not get hammered just the bare their presence and it felt pretty good.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Peter Zagreus on December 26, 2019, 11:32:11 AM
Stupid hungover right now... be thankful ye sober ones.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: woodsman on December 27, 2019, 03:58:51 PM
I fucked up guys. I went and copped dope. I couldnít go through withdrawals with my family converging on Christmas. It was my first time with that shit. My doc was out of town and the doc filling in basically told me to go fuck my self. There is something so dark and scary when you start a drug like herion. I have a unique situation with so many medical problems but I made the choice to start doing dope when I ran out of oxy because I couldnít handle stopping abruptly. Iím not looking for any sympathy because I made a choice to go buy that shit and snort it up my nose.
Iím in a dark place for sure.
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Post by: m bison on December 27, 2019, 04:03:01 PM
I fucked up guys. I went and copped dope. I couldnít go through withdrawals with my family converging on Christmas. It was my first time with that shit. My doc was out of town and the doc filling in basically told me to go fuck my self. There is something so dark and scary when you start a drug like herion. I have a unique situation with so many medical problems but I made the choice to start doing dope when I ran out of oxy because I couldnít handle stopping abruptly. Iím not looking for any sympathy because I made a choice to go buy that shit and snort it up my nose.
Iím in a dark place for sure.
at least enjoy it if you're on it. beating yourself up just ruins today, it doesn't help you kick tomorrow. wean if you can, get on suboxins for maintenance if you can't do it alone. we got a few days pre-new yrs, don't trip too hard. think of where you wanna be and you can get there. also. it takes most people 7 tries to break a bad habit so don't get discouraged. like skating, try over and over and eventually you land something.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: woodsman on December 27, 2019, 04:18:24 PM
Thanks bud. I want this to be a short bridge to something else.
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Post by: WastedHippy on December 27, 2019, 04:33:54 PM
Thanks bud. I want this to be a short bridge to something else.

At least your in this mindset and not making excuses for yourself, good luck man and try to stay strong
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: jakeumms on December 27, 2019, 04:52:47 PM
It's hard to hear about pals struggling with pills. I had a long bout with them and kicking was definitely one of the hardest things I've ever done.

@woodsman - I was in a really similar situation to you. I was in a bad accident and got put on oxys when I got out of the hospital and was just left on them. The pain doc I had was fine with writing the scripts but pretty much the rest of the medical infrastructure gave me shit about it. I ran out all the time and was constantly having my doc change the dosage to be able to get my scripts filled. I started buying bootleg pills and was pretty sure I was gonna catch a dose of fentanyl and people would just think I finally killed myself. Also shit was expensive as fuck. After multiple times of having this happen, one time I just decided I was done and that I would take the withdrawals to the face. If I had it to do all over again I would insist that someone get me in some kind of rehab because I still struggle with the depression that I got from that and the accident. I definitely could have used some guidance. I don't know what kind of recovery you're looking at but the one thing I will say about mine is that staying on pills definitely slowed it down and made it hard to judge what was real pain and what was withdrawals.

Here's to all you folks getting well as soon as you can. I'm no expert but hit me up if you want to talk about it. You know I'm always on here.

Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: iKobrakai on December 27, 2019, 05:17:18 PM
I fucked up guys. I went and copped dope. I couldnít go through withdrawals with my family converging on Christmas. It was my first time with that shit. My doc was out of town and the doc filling in basically told me to go fuck my self. There is something so dark and scary when you start a drug like herion. I have a unique situation with so many medical problems but I made the choice to start doing dope when I ran out of oxy because I couldnít handle stopping abruptly. Iím not looking for any sympathy because I made a choice to go buy that shit and snort it up my nose.
Iím in a dark place for sure.

Standard to fall, just get back up. You already know that you opened a pretty big can of worms. Get help, don't wait for it to get worse.

Good luck and I hope you wont become a statistic.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: EricLogan on December 27, 2019, 06:23:59 PM
Anybody try using CBD as a coping vice?

My girlfriend and I are planning a sober January.

I've sketched out potential activities, dates, and morning plans so I feel obligated to attend/skate/yoga with enough rest.

Not sure what you're coping with, but I've got a friend who was quite the drinker who had to cut out drinking to go on a long term (1 year) medication who credits much of his success to CBD products. Not sure what the legal situation is on cannabis/hemp products in your area, but around here dispensary staff are a fantastic, free resource of knowledge regarding CBD, and may also provide sample-size quantities in case you're weary of fully investing in any given product.

Hope this finds you well, friend.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on December 27, 2019, 06:26:49 PM
I fucked up guys. I went and copped dope. I couldnít go through withdrawals with my family converging on Christmas. It was my first time with that shit. My doc was out of town and the doc filling in basically told me to go fuck my self. There is something so dark and scary when you start a drug like herion. I have a unique situation with so many medical problems but I made the choice to start doing dope when I ran out of oxy because I couldnít handle stopping abruptly. Iím not looking for any sympathy because I made a choice to go buy that shit and snort it up my nose.
Iím in a dark place for sure.
   
  I quit heroin once.   Maybe ask for help from your family.  What I did is stayed in a trailer on an inlet really far from any dope.  I had weed and stuff.   If you can get away man from accessability, that's the only thing that will work.  And with drawals are pretty cray dude. The nights aren't good but the days are fine.   I wouldn't contact the authorities tho. They hate you.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: woodsman on December 27, 2019, 08:16:47 PM
Thanks guys. Iíve heard from Artie Lange that withdrawals are like the Flu times ten but I still think I can handle that. Iím now in a mind set that the time has to be right for me to take a week to be bed ridden and sick. And I totally get that the time wonít be right for a month, year, years. Iím fucked if I tell doctors what Iíve been up to and Iím having two surgeries in the next 4 months. I can make excuses forever. The brave thing to do would be to just stop and deal with the pain. Iím not sure I have it though. Bravery.
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Post by: slippy on December 30, 2019, 08:40:24 AM
Taking off drinking mon-thurs for January.  Not a lot but it's progress for me.
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Post by: dooley on December 30, 2019, 09:02:55 AM
Two years sober now. Something like that. Stopped counting the days and weeks because that's soft. I fucked up in the summer and allowed myself half a bottle of some weak piss at a farewell party (wack, I know) but it's officially unofficial.

Yes, I do want to drink. All the time but not at all. It sort of sucks but feels great at the same time. Good luck to all on this journey.
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Post by: theresnothinghere on December 30, 2019, 12:05:10 PM
Also not really super into drugs/alcohol but whenever I do partake, I go all out. Last time I got super fucked up and had some blood in my pee. Went to the doctor and they said my tests were good but not to drink like that and gave me some medicine. Also trying to stop and being scared of it helps with that but it's hella hard to socialize without being fucked up. Someone recommended filling a beer can with water and carrying that around so that people don't offer you drinks.
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Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on December 30, 2019, 01:58:41 PM
Also not really super into drugs/alcohol but whenever I do partake, I go all out. Last time I got super fucked up and had some blood in my pee. Went to the doctor and they said my tests were good but not to drink like that and gave me some medicine. Also trying to stop and being scared of it helps with that but it's hella hard to socialize without being fucked up. Someone recommended filling a beer can with water and carrying that around so that people don't offer you drinks.
  Watch the new Tired video.  Pay attention to the dude with all the tats leaving massive sweat stains on the floor slamming constantly.   Dimes to dounuts that dudes been drinking more then hes been skating the last 20 or so years and time flys.  If ur enveloped in social groups u need to be drunk to withstand try going backpacking solo for some months. Be that guy.  Extreme measures to get rid of these twisted dependancies. 
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Post by: thot juice on December 30, 2019, 08:45:59 PM
sparkeling water - san p, perrier - is an easy alternative especially in social situations when u just want something to grasp plus sum ppl even find it kinda classy even though they 1$ lul
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Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on December 30, 2019, 09:51:58 PM
(San p is a nestle product jus mentioning)
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: thot juice on December 30, 2019, 10:48:15 PM
fml so is Perrier my bad I drink a lottt of San p u know I luv the fancy fizz gonna have to set up my sodastream
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: jtrpma on December 30, 2019, 11:26:32 PM
Thanks bud. I want this to be a short bridge to something else.

Yeah! Being aware of your situation is the first and a very important step.

Maybe starting a therapy or program simultaneously can help to keep consumption as low as possible and improve the situation. Maybe at least stabilize it.
Good luck and good strength, man.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Sleazy on December 31, 2019, 07:09:50 AM
Taking off drinking mon-thurs for January.  Not a lot but it's progress for me.

i've been doing this for a while now. i'd encourage you to work in some exceptions so that you don't have to feel like you are cheating and get discouraged. mine is for social occasions, example, new years eve tomorrow. i was thinking about making it so that i had 3 drinking days each week and making it so that if i used one during the week then i gave up a weekend but for now i'm keeping it simple. overall i've been drinking less and i think it's a great change. i've also been taking off weeks here and there for the holidays. so all last week i drank for xmas break but still kept it chill. i did the same for thanksgiving.

anyway man, good luck. hope this works out well for you.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: WastedHippy on December 31, 2019, 02:06:58 PM
Been going pretty hard in December, taking all of January off drinking, basically the aim is to not drink until the superbowl and I'm feeling pretty positive about change but we'll see how I handle it when faced with opportunities to drink with friends or go to the bar after a skate day or whatever. Trying to use the month off to just get some good routines in play.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Algar on December 31, 2019, 02:49:50 PM
So my idea of not drinking for my 35th year alive lasted about a month.  Oh well, moving on, I'm taking january fully off, and from there I'm gonna allow myself to drink, but not at all at home.  Not drinking at home in the past has served me pretty well.  I usually end up having less than ten beers a week, and can still let a little loose here or there.

Good luck to you all to do positive shit in your lives in the new year!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Idk on January 01, 2020, 09:40:35 AM
Iíd be day drinking some Budweiserís right now if I wasnít in a leg brace and could drive to the liquor store. I hope anyone whoís struggling can hang in there. Itíll be spring soon.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Sleazy on January 01, 2020, 11:20:45 AM
So my idea of not drinking for my 35th year alive lasted about a month.  Oh well, moving on, I'm taking january fully off, and from there I'm gonna allow myself to drink, but not at all at home.  Not drinking at home in the past has served me pretty well.  I usually end up having less than ten beers a week, and can still let a little loose here or there.

Good luck to you all to do positive shit in your lives in the new year!

I really like this idea!


It wouldnít work for me. We just got our dream home last year and are pretty much home bodies now.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: woodsman on January 01, 2020, 01:36:45 PM
Been clean 53 hours. I feel awful but Iím really trying to do this. The wave of emotions hit me harder than the wave of nausea. Had a few good cryís, like shaking drooling cryís. Opioidís are the problem but no booze or anything as that will instantly crack my willpower. Iíll keep you posted.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: jakeumms on January 01, 2020, 02:09:22 PM
Been clean 53 hours. I feel awful but Iím really trying to do this. The wave of emotions hit me harder than the wave of nausea. Had a few good cryís, like shaking drooling cryís. Opioidís are the problem but no booze or anything as that will instantly crack my willpower. Iíll keep you posted.
Keep it going. In my experience, at 53 hours, it isn't getting any worse. You're dealing with worst of it so you just have to push through. Shalom Mind Power
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: waffle on January 01, 2020, 05:02:05 PM
Not an addict in any way but wondering if any addicts/former addicts can comment on something I (and others) have observed:

Why do so many former drug addicts become die hard conservatives?
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on January 01, 2020, 09:24:30 PM
Been clean 53 hours. I feel awful but Iím really trying to do this. The wave of emotions hit me harder than the wave of nausea. Had a few good cryís, like shaking drooling cryís. Opioidís are the problem but no booze or anything as that will instantly crack my willpower. Iíll keep you posted.
  Wow dude.   Right on just gets gradually easier after another 3 nights of hell.  Pretty cray.  Id get some fuckin weed but thats just me, whatever works.  Pretty cool man.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: jtrpma on January 01, 2020, 09:35:31 PM
Been clean 53 hours. I feel awful but Iím really trying to do this. The wave of emotions hit me harder than the wave of nausea. Had a few good cryís, like shaking drooling cryís. Opioidís are the problem but no booze or anything as that will instantly crack my willpower. Iíll keep you posted.

Good strength, man! When it comes to days and hours a good tv show can help a lot. Something comfortable but bland... Seinfeld or that 70s show is a good time waster
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: matty_c on January 01, 2020, 10:51:16 PM
Not an addict in any way but wondering if any addicts/former addicts can comment on something I (and others) have observed:

Why do so many former drug addicts become die hard conservatives?

if i can't have it nobody can

i am having a go at being sober.  ultimate props to those high achievers who can have a great time on drugs and alcohol and generally kill it at life/career

unfortunately for me i am not one of these people
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: iKobrakai on January 02, 2020, 03:23:08 AM
Not an addict in any way but wondering if any addicts/former addicts can comment on something I (and others) have observed:

Why do so many former drug addicts become die hard conservatives?

Sounds like a U.S. phenomena, never heard of it or seen it. Here, in Gay Europe, the opposite would be more likely to occur. Ex-addicts tend to lean towards more generous treatment of addicts-> more government spending-> more higher/bigger state. But i've never actually seen any strong opinions either way.

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Been clean 53 hours. I feel awful but Iím really trying to do this. The wave of emotions hit me harder than the wave of nausea. Had a few good cryís, like shaking drooling cryís. Opioidís are the problem but no booze or anything as that will instantly crack my willpower. Iíll keep you posted.
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Keep it going. In my experience, at 53 hours, it isn't getting any worse. You're dealing with worst of it so you just have to push through. Shalom Mind Power

On heroin/oxy's: you're on a good path. Methadone/sub: just getting starded. Keep fighting, man!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: fakie nollie on January 02, 2020, 07:07:59 AM
Not an addict in any way but wondering if any addicts/former addicts can comment on something I (and others) have observed:

Why do so many former drug addicts become die hard conservatives?

Im taking jab at something held sacred to recovering addicts, but... I blame the 12 step program. Heavily surrounds the idea that you canít trust your own decisions and that you need to trust god. Most conservatives, in my experience, have this same blind ďI am not responsible for my own actions but God is behind my wheelĒ mentality when they speak about their (primarily Christian or Mormon) god.

I technically went to a 12 step rehab but immediately stopped following a 12 step program when I got out. Happy it helps people but not for me. I watched some seriously dumb mother fuckers guide drug addicts because they ďmasteredĒ the 12 steps. Blind leading the blind.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: iKobrakai on January 02, 2020, 09:13:57 AM
I agree, idiots will love the idea of someboby else responsible for their fuck-ups. Reasonable people will give another meaning to God. In my experience, people who talk the dumbest shit are the same that are least qualified, in terms of working the steps and reading the litterature of AA.

I get how newbies get pushed away by all the retards and why AA has such low success rate. It is a shame that mindless fucktards is all people see. Noboby talks about the dude who works hard, pays back his debts and helps others.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Idk on January 02, 2020, 03:37:45 PM
Iím trying to quit weed. Right now itís 4 joints a day but today so far Iíve yet to smoke. I donít have an appetite anymore and sleeping is incredibly difficult without weed. Iím trying to go cold turkey but in anyoneís experience that was able to quit what did you do?
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: fakie nollie on January 02, 2020, 04:09:56 PM
Iím trying to quit weed. Right now itís 4 joints a day but today so far Iíve yet to smoke. I donít have an appetite anymore and sleeping is incredibly difficult without weed. Iím trying to go cold turkey but in anyoneís experience that was able to quit what did you do?

I donít know about anyone else but it was super easy for me to stop smoking weed. Then again, I felt like a paranoid schizophrenic when I smoked weed, so I felt less like the government was going to kill me and more like I actually understood what is happening in my direct 10í radius.

Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Sleazy on January 03, 2020, 07:44:15 AM
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Iím trying to quit weed. Right now itís 4 joints a day but today so far Iíve yet to smoke. I donít have an appetite anymore and sleeping is incredibly difficult without weed. Iím trying to go cold turkey but in anyoneís experience that was able to quit what did you do?
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Same here. If I had to face how much I spent on trees in the last year I would be really bummed. And Iím more and more starting to realize how it contributes to/causes my anxiety and paranoia. It really gets in the way of me doing what I want to do more than Iíd like to admit. Iím still getting by but I know Iím not living at my full potential, mentally, socially...

itís been a habit for a long time. When I stop Iím just like filled with dissatisfaction and the feeling of something being missing, lol.. or maybe I always feel that and weed just helps distract or forget about it for a while. I donít really feel okay on or off it, but in different ways. But being on it is getting to expensive, and taxing to my mental.

Even just slowing down would be amazing, for my mind and wallet. definitely told myself before ďIím only gonna smoke on weekends nowĒ or ďonly in the eveningsĒ but never stick to that for any time at all. No accountability I guess.

i quit about 5 years back after talking to people in a similar thread on here. dr drew what you are describing was my exact situation. i was having really bad anxiety and paranoia and honestly mild schizophrenia is the best way i can describe it. this new kind of weed just makes your mind race and looking back i think the problem was that i'd be blasted and just try and chill at home and my mind would race and not always go to pleasant places. on top of that it really limited me socially without me really knowing. i'm a pretty social guy, probably annoyingly so, but when i smoked i pretty much only wanted to chill with people who smoked. at work without even knowing who did or didn't 100% there was a filtering going on. for me this was complicated by the fact that i'm pretty hyperactive and my career was going well. so financially it wasn't a strain and having naturally high energy levels i was functioning well.

after quitting i almost immediately figured out how to start a company which was something i had been obsessing on for years. but always hitting my one hitter when pulling out the parking lot of work made it pretty limited in how i could put in the extra time to get a side hustle started and the years of effort it takes to grow that side hustle into the main hustle. i know for sure this wouldn't have happened if i was smoking. as i mentioned the social thing was a big deal. i found that after i stopped smoking for a while my personality had turned away from this introvert and back to what it was when i was younger, basically an out going friendly guy which was super helpful.

for me to do quit, frankly speaking, was mostly because of exercise, tequila and cigars. i know that sounds like trading one vice for another, which it sort of was but that's what did it for me. every minute of the day is excruciatingly boring when you are used to be blasted all the time. but if you get off work, go hit the gym (go jog, etc...) then come home and sip a tequila it makes it so that you get pretty relaxed and can still sleep and all that. then if you find yourself really wanting to feel a little faded that's when a nice cigar helps. it's the coffee to weeds cocaine. you can smoke a cigar and it'll get a you mellow fade. it's no where near the same, just like coffee to coke but for me it works fine. to this day i'll get a nice dark liquor grab a cigar and put some live show on my ipad and chill and get a little fade going and it works for me to scratch that weed itch.

now that i'm about 5 years out on that i've been working on scaling back the drinking which for me has been way, way easier than trying to regulate smoking which just didn't work. that shit is crazy additive IMHO. most addictive thing i've messed with but i never got into all the pills and powders. now i've got my drinking pretty well regulated to weekends and it wasn't that hard to do.

anyway, everyone journey is super personal but i definitely connected with the struggles you were sharing and i'd encourage you to find a way at least pause the weed for a while. for me the day by day thing worked really well. each morning after a day of not smoking i'd take the time to reflect on if it was a better day and it always was so that helped me get through another day. these days i don't even think about it. its like acid or something. sure i had a lot of fun with that shit when i was young but i'm not about to go dosing now, those days are done.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on January 03, 2020, 10:41:50 AM
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Iím trying to quit weed. Right now itís 4 joints a day but today so far Iíve yet to smoke. I donít have an appetite anymore and sleeping is incredibly difficult without weed. Iím trying to go cold turkey but in anyoneís experience that was able to quit what did you do?
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Same here. If I had to face how much I spent on trees in the last year I would be really bummed. And Iím more and more starting to realize how it contributes to/causes my anxiety and paranoia. It really gets in the way of me doing what I want to do more than Iíd like to admit. Iím still getting by but I know Iím not living at my full potential, mentally, socially...

itís been a habit for a long time. When I stop Iím just like filled with dissatisfaction and the feeling of something being missing, lol.. or maybe I always feel that and weed just helps distract or forget about it for a while. I donít really feel okay on or off it, but in different ways. But being on it is getting to expensive, and taxing to my mental.

Even just slowing down would be amazing, for my mind and wallet. definitely told myself before ďIím only gonna smoke on weekends nowĒ or ďonly in the eveningsĒ but never stick to that for any time at all. No accountability I guess.
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i quit about 5 years back after talking to people in a similar thread on here. dr drew what you are describing was my exact situation. i was having really bad anxiety and paranoia and honestly mild schizophrenia is the best way i can describe it. this new kind of weed just makes your mind race and looking back i think the problem was that i'd be blasted and just try and chill at home and my mind would race and not always go to pleasant places. on top of that it really limited me socially without me really knowing. i'm a pretty social guy, probably annoyingly so, but when i smoked i pretty much only wanted to chill with people who smoked. at work without even knowing who did or didn't 100% there was a filtering going on. for me this was complicated by the fact that i'm pretty hyperactive and my career was going well. so financially it wasn't a strain and having naturally high energy levels i was functioning well.

after quitting i almost immediately figured out how to start a company which was something i had been obsessing on for years. but always hitting my one hitter when pulling out the parking lot of work made it pretty limited in how i could put in the extra time to get a side hustle started and the years of effort it takes to grow that side hustle into the main hustle. i know for sure this wouldn't have happened if i was smoking. as i mentioned the social thing was a big deal. i found that after i stopped smoking for a while my personality had turned away from this introvert and back to what it was when i was younger, basically an out going friendly guy which was super helpful.

for me to do quit, frankly speaking, was mostly because of exercise, tequila and cigars. i know that sounds like trading one vice for another, which it sort of was but that's what did it for me. every minute of the day is excruciatingly boring when you are used to be blasted all the time. but if you get off work, go hit the gym (go jog, etc...) then come home and sip a tequila it makes it so that you get pretty relaxed and can still sleep and all that. then if you find yourself really wanting to feel a little faded that's when a nice cigar helps. it's the coffee to weeds cocaine. you can smoke a cigar and it'll get a you mellow fade. it's no where near the same, just like coffee to coke but for me it works fine. to this day i'll get a nice dark liquor grab a cigar and put some live show on my ipad and chill and get a little fade going and it works for me to scratch that weed itch.

now that i'm about 5 years out on that i've been working on scaling back the drinking which for me has been way, way easier than trying to regulate smoking which just didn't work. that shit is crazy additive IMHO. most addictive thing i've messed with but i never got into all the pills and powders. now i've got my drinking pretty well regulated to weekends and it wasn't that hard to do.

anyway, everyone journey is super personal but i definitely connected with the struggles you were sharing and i'd encourage you to find a way at least pause the weed for a while. for me the day by day thing worked really well. each morning after a day of not smoking i'd take the time to reflect on if it was a better day and it always was so that helped me get through another day. these days i don't even think about it. its like acid or something. sure i had a lot of fun with that shit when i was young but i'm not about to go dosing now, those days are done.
  Interesting tradjectory and success i'd say.    I can't argue (about the addictiveness), weeds the only thing I haven't been able to ever quit.   Edit, wait I just read the last part, no more acid?!  Come on!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: AssFlea on January 04, 2020, 09:35:48 AM
Someone offered me tar

Im kinda pissed because thats rare in these parts.

I ban hammered their ass. Sucks because i revived them last time we was face to face. She just wants me to dope dick her down and i just wanna be sedated

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=x09XSa1X1eU&feature=share
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Sleazy on January 04, 2020, 10:32:16 AM
Thanks for the support Sleazy. It feels good to hear that someone can relate and has gotten past this bullshit to a healthier routine and lifestyle. I am so comfortable and so fuxking complacent in my situation, even mentally itís like I canít accept that Iím ever gonna stop doing it regularly. However your acid analogy really helped make it sound possible for me for a second. To become a super occasionally done thing, a fun social experience with friends to open our minds a bit every year or so, not an everyday crutch to deal with reality.

When I really reflect on how itís holding me back, I know it will be worth it to change my relationship with it. Man I get so geeked up at home in my own house I get scared to play music loud even. So weird. Like scared everyone in my neighborhood is paying attention to me and judging me for how I live haha.. even though the blinds are closed and you can barely hear it outside.. and most people are at work.. weird paranoid shit like that, feeling alien in the super market, this is no way to live lmao

And yeah I relate on the business thing, Iíve been trying to start something for a while now and see it having real potential but I make such slow progress on it, and tree is definitely much to blame for that. I mean it could fail, but either way itís important to finish things and find out their results regardless

Sorry for typing a lot and I know I donít have super gnarly problems like many people in this thread. Wishing strength and health to everyone. Stay self aware and try to make the right decisions, according to your own definition of what that is for you, you probably know what it is for yourself

the paranoia was definitely one of the worst parts of getting hi for me. the grocery store too. it was the worst, seeing someone from my kids school or work when i'm blasted at the store and then being all awkward and anti-social. basically having a hard time just talking to someone i know.

alcohol has it's own problems but i can go to the store after having a few beers and not be weird to people.

how ever you go with it, good luck man! it's very helpful for me to hear such a familiar story. you really don't hear many people talk about weed this way.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Idk on January 04, 2020, 01:49:09 PM
Third day of no weed just using it at night one small joint to go to sleep because years of sleeping stoned has made it super difficult without. Iím hoping to ween off and eventually no weed at all. But the first two days were pretty bad. I would shake at certain times of the day and I really wanted to smoke but I bought these gaba supplements from Whole Foods and they have helped a bit. I just want to enjoy life without having to rely on something to enjoy it.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: jtrpma on January 04, 2020, 02:08:47 PM
Third day of no weed just using it at night one small joint to go to sleep because years of sleeping stoned has made it super difficult without. Iím hoping to ween off and eventually no weed at all. But the first two days were pretty bad. I would shake at certain times of the day and I really wanted to smoke but I bought these gaba supplements from Whole Foods and they have helped a bit. I just want to enjoy life without having to rely on something to enjoy it.

Good strength!

Shalom
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: jakeumms on January 04, 2020, 02:12:33 PM
If your sleep is disrupted by coming of of something, you can try to use benadryl to get through the night. I'd take as much as half a pill if I really wanted to sleep and it wasn't happening. A quarter or an eighth will do it usually though. Also, look into St John's Wort and Melatonin when you're trying to restore your sleep equilibrium.

I also forgot that I used a modified version of the thomas recipe to get of oxys. Do a search on it if you're looking to go the non-rehab route but maybe skip the benzos since you're a pill head and you gotta keep that behavior in perspective. The bananas were helpful when I had zero appetite and food was coming out way faster than it was going in.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Idk on January 04, 2020, 03:49:43 PM
If your sleep is disrupted by coming of of something, you can try to use benadryl to get through the night. I'd take as much as half a pill if I really wanted to sleep and it wasn't happening. A quarter or an eighth will do it usually though. Also, look into St John's Wort and Melatonin when you're trying to restore your sleep equilibrium.

I also forgot that I used a modified version of the thomas recipe to get of oxys. Do a search on it if you're looking to go the non-rehab route but maybe skip the benzos since you're a pill head and you gotta keep that behavior in perspective. The bananas were helpful when I had zero appetite and food was coming out way faster than it was going in.
Im taking melatonin too along with the joint at night. I wish I could eat bananas but they just make me gag I've been drinking smoothies in the morning to help with my appetite. One of the more difficult things is that Iím injured. I have a knee brace after meniscus surgery so I canít do much. The first few weeks I was just getting very stoned. Have to find something to occupy my mind. Just graduated college too so the anxiety of entering the ďreal worldĒ isnít helping me stay off weed but Iím hanging in there. Right now itís rainy and itís a Saturday so I want to get high so badly.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: woodsman on January 04, 2020, 09:31:04 PM
I made it through the hell of withdrawals and Iím feeling okay. Now Iím just depressed. I want to thank you Pals. It might just be a sounding board but I think you guys actually helped me get through this. In between arguing about bullshit Pals are out here helping people. Itís kind of inspiring. Thanks, and Iíll keep posting.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: iKobrakai on January 05, 2020, 04:44:04 AM
I made it through the hell of withdrawals and Iím feeling okay. Now Iím just depressed. I want to thank you Pals. It might just be a sounding board but I think you guys actually helped me get through this. In between arguing about bullshit Pals are out here helping people. Itís kind of inspiring. Thanks, and Iíll keep posting.

Good job, man. Make sure to do as much as you can during the days. Physical and mental activity will keep you busy. Avoid sleeping in day time, it might fuck with your routine.

As for depression... I have nothing for you, now is the time to create your own happiness, because your brain will sure as fuck not recover for a year or so. In other words: no dopamine/seratonine for you, unless you brute force that shit.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on January 05, 2020, 08:03:40 AM
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I made it through the hell of withdrawals and Iím feeling okay. Now Iím just depressed. I want to thank you Pals. It might just be a sounding board but I think you guys actually helped me get through this. In between arguing about bullshit Pals are out here helping people. Itís kind of inspiring. Thanks, and Iíll keep posting.
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Good job, man. Make sure to do as much as you can during the days. Physical and mental activity will keep you busy. Avoid sleeping in day time, it might fuck with your routine.

As for depression... I have nothing for you, now is the time to create your own happiness, because your brain will sure as fuck not recover for a year or so. In other words: no dopamine/seratonine for you, unless you brute force that shit.
  This is all true in my experience and its good advise and i also propose it's very possible to experience happiness in this state where your dopamine and seratonine is depleted. I looked a lil bit rough but I enjoyed that time alot (the months after I'd quit) , thats when I got into surfing.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Algar on January 05, 2020, 08:07:08 PM
As a cautionary tale for those who are missing their micro brews, I was on the other end of town today and picked up some n/a ipa's and a porter.  Spent 30 bucks in total and all three are totally fucking horrible!   

I will recommend Lagunitas hoppy refresher, it's just carbonated water with hops,  scratches the itch for any hoppy beer lovers!

Hope y'all are doing well and stay in strong
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: igrindtwinkies on January 05, 2020, 08:11:45 PM
Been cutting my booze down to levels where I'm not inebriated.  I order that Lagunitas Hop Water at a local bar when I feel like getting out of the house.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: rawr1922 on January 29, 2020, 08:16:54 PM
Just hit 60 days being sober from everything. Feels amazing gents. Never thought I could do it. This thread helped me a lot, constantly read through it during the countless battles. Thank you all for sharing your stories. Pretty much took all of last year to get fully sober after a decade of half assed attempts.  Slowly tappered off with sporadic relapses. Final nail in the coffin happened when a close friend recently committed suicide. Just hit me way too hard then vowed to stop wasting my life being faded all the time. Developed a passion for reading which is weird because used to hate reading. Sound like a senior citizen nevertheless getting 7 hours of sleep, eating clean, and exercising really keeps body & mind feeling good. For entire life , neglected all those things. Going back to school helped with transition too, keeps me busy. Some of you mentioned this before, lot of time opens up when you're not always fucked up. Thanks again for contributing to this thread, helped me at my lowest times.   
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Salsa Verde on January 29, 2020, 08:34:44 PM
48 hours in. Gonna give this a go again. The last time I posted in this thread, I had 10 days that I turned into a little less than 60. I just posted in the mental health thread, and dope and booze played a part in my mental breakdown the other day. Props to all the positive people in this thread and all the people giving it a go.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: rawr1922 on January 29, 2020, 08:54:26 PM
48 hours in. Gonna give this a go again. The last time I posted in this thread, I had 10 days that I turned into a little less than 60. I just posted in the mental health thread, and dope and booze played a part in my mental breakdown the other day. Props to all the positive people in this thread and all the people giving it a go.


Happy to see you're making an effort again. Just keep at it, win those small battles, there will be speed bumps, just keep trying Salsa you will get there. Wish I could offer you legit advice, I'm a rookie in this field.  Your last run impressive , you can do it again. Didnt you feel better last time after weeks passed? Hard in the early days. Take if day by day and before you know it turn into weeks again.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: 50mm on January 29, 2020, 09:37:57 PM
I found a new psychiatrist who isn't a quack and is very cautious about medication. In order for me to stay with his practice I had to agree to random drug testing because of the medication I'll be on. Weed is my only thing, I was already cutting back so it wasn't too hard to say yes. I also went months without smoking a couple years ago and felt great at that time. But it's funny that I was drinking, doing blow and taking painkillers at that time.

I have an interview tomorrow, but it's within my company so I wont need to do a drug test for it. I'm smoking through the weekend then Monday I have to start. The first month is the hardest but after that it get's a lot easier.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Salsa Verde on January 29, 2020, 09:57:58 PM
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48 hours in. Gonna give this a go again. The last time I posted in this thread, I had 10 days that I turned into a little less than 60. I just posted in the mental health thread, and dope and booze played a part in my mental breakdown the other day. Props to all the positive people in this thread and all the people giving it a go.
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Happy to see you're making an effort again. Just keep at it, win those small battles, there will be speed bumps, just keep trying Salsa you will get there. Wish I could offer you legit advice, I'm a rookie in this field.  Your last run impressive , you can do it again. Didnt you feel better last time after weeks passed? Hard in the early days. Take if day by day and before you know it turn into weeks again.

First of all, congrats on your 60. Thatís huge! I think I had right between 6-7 weeks. First couple weeks were pretty tough, but definitely got better. I did feel a lot better about myself. I set my self up for failure though, as I was going to allow myself ďcheat daysĒ on vacation. I went to an all inclusive resort that an army of alcoholics couldnít drink dry. Then there was X Mas. Then New Years. Then my B day... Any excuse right? Anyway, this time I hope it sticks because if losing my girl 3 months ago wasnít bad enough, I may of just lost a best friend because of it. I hope to be reporting back here with 60 days in the further. Congrats again in your 60 and keep at it!
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Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on January 30, 2020, 12:46:33 AM
 Sober (that means no weed) for a week or 2 here.  Makes me almost overly friendly (im shaking random peoples hands on the street and getting into convos constanly) its been okay to skate sober so im stoked on that.  Ive got a couple of angry posts on the go too prolly cause im jonesn' for weed.
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Post by: WastedHippy on January 30, 2020, 01:59:43 PM
32 days sober ! Probably the longest I've gone in ten years...seems weird to say I haven't drank in 2020
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Post by: Sleazy on January 30, 2020, 02:11:35 PM
really stoked on all the recent updates, this thread is turning into something really great.

i'm still doing my moderation thing and it's going well. i drink less than i used to for sure. most week nights i don't drink and haven't since i started. lately i've had a pretty gnarly deadline with our biggest client and been sick as shit. so working 10-12 hours sick as shit so i've had a few "fuck it" days the last two weeks but kept it to one ish drink so not to bad. the program is working out the way i hoped it would. i just need to make sure that once i get over this flu, cold thing and get back on track i also get back on the no weeknights more solid.
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Post by: Salsa Verde on January 30, 2020, 02:43:03 PM
32 days sober ! Probably the longest I've gone in ten years...seems weird to say I haven't drank in 2020

Congrats man! Thatís awesome that you can say that about this year! Wish I could say the same about 2020. I really fucked up the other day and feel terrible about it. Not Corey or Ali level Fíed up, but I feel so fucking guilty. Reached out 3 times and my friend has ghosted me. Damn I feel shitty about it. Oddly enough I almost feel worse about this than ruining my 3 year relationship with my ex girl. Although that shit haunts me and I think about her every day. Moral of the story is, if youíre reading this and think your drinking is ruing some of your personal relationships, please stop or get some help before itís too late.

Anyway, sorry to rant. Not trying to steal your shine. Thatís rad you havenít had a drink this year!
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Post by: Meekin on January 30, 2020, 03:28:27 PM
Gave up weed last june. I realized that once I couldn't sleep without it, it was time to stop. Like others have probably said, the first twoish weeks were the hardest. After that, I began to to fall asleep fairly easy. Started uses a sound machine to sleep along with a fan beside my bed.
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Post by: WastedHippy on February 01, 2020, 04:05:46 PM
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32 days sober ! Probably the longest I've gone in ten years...seems weird to say I haven't drank in 2020
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Congrats man! Thatís awesome that you can say that about this year! Wish I could say the same about 2020. I really fucked up the other day and feel terrible about it. Not Corey or Ali level Fíed up, but I feel so fucking guilty. Reached out 3 times and my friend has ghosted me. Damn I feel shitty about it. Oddly enough I almost feel worse about this than ruining my 3 year relationship with my ex girl. Although that shit haunts me and I think about her every day. Moral of the story is, if youíre reading this and think your drinking is ruing some of your personal relationships, please stop or get some help before itís too late.

Anyway, sorry to rant. Not trying to steal your shine. Thatís rad you havenít had a drink this year!

All good dude ! It's all love in this thread haha to be fair I was just doing a sober january to get some healthy/good routines in place...kinda detox. So now that it's over I'll be drinking again but hopefully stick with the positive routines I've picked up the last month. Lost 11 lb's in the month and I'm not a big guy (6 foot, 187 pounds down to 174) by any means so no booze/increased exercise has made a difference
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Post by: Salsa Verde on February 01, 2020, 09:49:08 PM
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32 days sober ! Probably the longest I've gone in ten years...seems weird to say I haven't drank in 2020
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Congrats man! Thatís awesome that you can say that about this year! Wish I could say the same about 2020. I really fucked up the other day and feel terrible about it. Not Corey or Ali level Fíed up, but I feel so fucking guilty. Reached out 3 times and my friend has ghosted me. Damn I feel shitty about it. Oddly enough I almost feel worse about this than ruining my 3 year relationship with my ex girl. Although that shit haunts me and I think about her every day. Moral of the story is, if youíre reading this and think your drinking is ruing some of your personal relationships, please stop or get some help before itís too late.

Anyway, sorry to rant. Not trying to steal your shine. Thatís rad you havenít had a drink this year!
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All good dude ! It's all love in this thread haha to be fair I was just doing a sober january to get some healthy/good routines in place...kinda detox. So now that it's over I'll be drinking again but hopefully stick with the positive routines I've picked up the last month. Lost 11 lb's in the month and I'm not a big guy (6 foot, 187 pounds down to 174) by any means so no booze/increased exercise has made a difference

Yeah, I definitely need to get some good clean healthy living going with some positive routines and weight loss in the mix.
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Post by: Carrolls Chesthairs on February 02, 2020, 03:03:23 PM
Last drink was on January 1st.
Originally planned a sober January post that day.
Now I'm thinking sober February too.

Been more into skating lately and collectively happier than before; fewer mood swings.
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Post by: Salsa Verde on February 02, 2020, 08:27:42 PM
Last drink was on January 1st.
Originally planned a sober January post that day.
Now I'm thinking sober February too.

Been more into skating lately and collectively happier than before; fewer mood swings.

Epic. Keep at it.
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Post by: Big Baby Jesus on February 03, 2020, 04:17:24 AM
Pretty cool to see all the people trying to better their life. I just hit a year sober on Jan 11th after a couple years of doing too many drugs. Things are going well and don't have cravings too much. However I do have to stay on top of my mental health and keep a positive attitude so I don't get sucked back into that life.
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Post by: iKobrakai on February 03, 2020, 05:23:07 AM
Pretty cool to see all the people trying to better their life. I just hit a year sober on Jan 11th after a couple years of doing too many drugs. Things are going well and don't have cravings too much. However I do have to stay on top of my mental health and keep a positive attitude so I don't get sucked back into that life.

Good job. I agree, one has to stay focused on the right things, always. Not even a question for an ex-addict. The margins for fucking up/slacking off are tiny.
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Post by: geneparmesan on February 03, 2020, 05:07:56 PM
For anyone kicking weed, the https://www.reddit.com/r/leaves/ community has a lot of good info. I'm about 5 weeks off of it and experienced intense insomnia for close to a week, about two weeks of feeling nauseous and a total lack of appetite, as well as really vivid, disconcerting dreams (once they began occurring again).

I'm starting to become convinced that the weed that's being cultivated now is stronger and more addictive than the plant is naturally supposed to be. I do miss all the high insights I got, as well as how fun it was to watch the sour videos, but the late nights, munchies and intense brain fog the next day really started to drag me down. Not to mention the total lack of motivation to do basic chores that crept in. I miss it occasionally, but ultimately the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. Best of luck to everyone in their sobriety, and keep at it. The clarity in your thinking alone will be more than worth it.
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Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on February 03, 2020, 11:13:12 PM
For anyone kicking weed, the https://www.reddit.com/r/leaves/ community has a lot of good info. I'm about 5 weeks off of it and experienced intense insomnia for close to a week, about two weeks of feeling nauseous and a total lack of appetite, as well as really vivid, disconcerting dreams (once they began occurring again).

I'm starting to become convinced that the weed that's being cultivated now is stronger and more addictive than the plant is naturally supposed to be. I do miss all the high insights I got, as well as how fun it was to watch the sour videos, but the late nights, munchies and intense brain fog the next day really started to drag me down. Not to mention the total lack of motivation to do basic chores that crept in. I miss it occasionally, but ultimately the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. Best of luck to everyone in their sobriety, and keep at it. The clarity in your thinking alone will be more than worth it.
    Theyre has been good weed for centuries just not everywhere.  When the US gov. says that weed is 10 times stronger then in the 50s they mean shiddy mex weed that wasnt even bud and they do that to trick soccer moms dude.  Think about it, hash has always been around so theres your high concentration of thc right there, so some strong weed isnt bringing any high to the table that people havent already gotten for centuries.  Dont believe or propigate the anti drug hype jus cause ur going sober.  It is a cancer.
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Post by: geneparmesan on February 04, 2020, 10:03:22 AM
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For anyone kicking weed, the https://www.reddit.com/r/leaves/ community has a lot of good info. I'm about 5 weeks off of it and experienced intense insomnia for close to a week, about two weeks of feeling nauseous and a total lack of appetite, as well as really vivid, disconcerting dreams (once they began occurring again).

I'm starting to become convinced that the weed that's being cultivated now is stronger and more addictive than the plant is naturally supposed to be. I do miss all the high insights I got, as well as how fun it was to watch the sour videos, but the late nights, munchies and intense brain fog the next day really started to drag me down. Not to mention the total lack of motivation to do basic chores that crept in. I miss it occasionally, but ultimately the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. Best of luck to everyone in their sobriety, and keep at it. The clarity in your thinking alone will be more than worth it.
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    Theyre has been good weed for centuries just not everywhere.  When the US gov. says that weed is 10 times stronger then in the 50s they mean shiddy mex weed that wasnt even bud and they do that to trick soccer moms dude.  Think about it, hash has always been around so theres your high concentration of thc right there, so some strong weed isnt bringing any high to the table that people havent already gotten for centuries.  Dont believe or propigate the anti drug hype jus cause ur going sober.  It is a cancer.

I could post links to multiple studies proving that you're wrong, but why are you in a sobriety thread telling people not to propagate anti drug hype? Take your tone policing elsewhere and fuck off.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: burtreynolds.jpeg on February 04, 2020, 11:38:50 AM
I am thinking about giving up drinking for good. Just want my mental and physical health to get back up to 100%.
However, I want to get back out into the dating scene and it's super hard to go around and meet girls outside of bars and parties.

Any sober bros got any helpful tips?
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Post by: jakeumms on February 04, 2020, 12:02:10 PM
I am thinking about giving up drinking for good. Just want my mental and physical health to get back up to 100%.
However, I want to get back out into the dating scene and it's super hard to go around and meet girls outside of bars and parties.

Any sober bros got any helpful tips?
Meet sober girls online?
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Post by: fakie nollie on February 04, 2020, 12:27:42 PM
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I am thinking about giving up drinking for good. Just want my mental and physical health to get back up to 100%.
However, I want to get back out into the dating scene and it's super hard to go around and meet girls outside of bars and parties.

Any sober bros got any helpful tips?
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Meet sober girls online?

I was in the same boat. Stopped drinking/doing drugs and realized it had been almost a decade since I went on a first (or second/third/20th) date sober. Tried to go to bars sober but probably looked like a creep, would go on dates with people I casually met in public but there was almost no deep connection and my only hobby was skateboarding.

Eventually, tried online dating after a couple years of sobriety. Met my wife from online dating, don't regret a thing.
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Post by: jakeumms on February 04, 2020, 01:13:34 PM
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I am thinking about giving up drinking for good. Just want my mental and physical health to get back up to 100%.
However, I want to get back out into the dating scene and it's super hard to go around and meet girls outside of bars and parties.

Any sober bros got any helpful tips?
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Meet sober girls online?
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I was in the same boat. Stopped drinking/doing drugs and realized it had been almost a decade since I went on a first (or second/third/20th) date sober. Tried to go to bars sober but probably looked like a creep, would go on dates with people I casually met in public but there was almost no deep connection and my only hobby was skateboarding.

Eventually, tried online dating after a couple years of sobriety. Met my wife from online dating, don't regret a thing.
My experience too. It makes sense that if I had to rethink how I interact socially in general I would have to rethink how I go about dating people too.
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Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on February 04, 2020, 02:49:24 PM
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For anyone kicking weed, the https://www.reddit.com/r/leaves/ community has a lot of good info. I'm about 5 weeks off of it and experienced intense insomnia for close to a week, about two weeks of feeling nauseous and a total lack of appetite, as well as really vivid, disconcerting dreams (once they began occurring again).

I'm starting to become convinced that the weed that's being cultivated now is stronger and more addictive than the plant is naturally supposed to be. I do miss all the high insights I got, as well as how fun it was to watch the sour videos, but the late nights, munchies and intense brain fog the next day really started to drag me down. Not to mention the total lack of motivation to do basic chores that crept in. I miss it occasionally, but ultimately the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. Best of luck to everyone in their sobriety, and keep at it. The clarity in your thinking alone will be more than worth it.
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    Theyre has been good weed for centuries just not everywhere.  When the US gov. says that weed is 10 times stronger then in the 50s they mean shiddy mex weed that wasnt even bud and they do that to trick soccer moms dude.  Think about it, hash has always been around so theres your high concentration of thc right there, so some strong weed isnt bringing any high to the table that people havent already gotten for centuries.  Dont believe or propigate the anti drug hype jus cause ur going sober.  It is a cancer.
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I could post links to multiple studies proving that you're wrong, but why are you in a sobriety thread telling people not to propagate anti drug hype? Take your tone policing elsewhere and fuck off.
   What am I wrong about dickhead?, post away dude.  Has hash not existed for centuries?  Where are the 200 year old examples of weed from Afghanistan to fairly compare anyway.  This is why u American fucks turn religious when going straight-  needing to do this dramatic 180.  ďMultiple studiesĒ. -Jesus Christ help us.
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Post by: geneparmesan on February 04, 2020, 04:00:48 PM
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For anyone kicking weed, the https://www.reddit.com/r/leaves/ community has a lot of good info. I'm about 5 weeks off of it and experienced intense insomnia for close to a week, about two weeks of feeling nauseous and a total lack of appetite, as well as really vivid, disconcerting dreams (once they began occurring again).

I'm starting to become convinced that the weed that's being cultivated now is stronger and more addictive than the plant is naturally supposed to be. I do miss all the high insights I got, as well as how fun it was to watch the sour videos, but the late nights, munchies and intense brain fog the next day really started to drag me down. Not to mention the total lack of motivation to do basic chores that crept in. I miss it occasionally, but ultimately the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. Best of luck to everyone in their sobriety, and keep at it. The clarity in your thinking alone will be more than worth it.
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    Theyre has been good weed for centuries just not everywhere.  When the US gov. says that weed is 10 times stronger then in the 50s they mean shiddy mex weed that wasnt even bud and they do that to trick soccer moms dude.  Think about it, hash has always been around so theres your high concentration of thc right there, so some strong weed isnt bringing any high to the table that people havent already gotten for centuries.  Dont believe or propigate the anti drug hype jus cause ur going sober.  It is a cancer.
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I could post links to multiple studies proving that you're wrong, but why are you in a sobriety thread telling people not to propagate anti drug hype? Take your tone policing elsewhere and fuck off.
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   What am I wrong about dickhead?, post away dude.  Has hash not existed for centuries?  Where are the 200 year old examples of weed from Afghanistan to fairly compare anyway.  This is why u American fucks turn religious when going straight-  needing to do this dramatic 180.  ďMultiple studiesĒ. -Jesus Christ help us.

I wasn't talking about hash. That was a straw man argument that you introduced. Looking at your post history you seem to be a judgmental pedantic nitpicker, same as you did here. Are you angry postin cuz you're jonesin for weed or what?
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Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on February 04, 2020, 05:16:47 PM
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For anyone kicking weed, the https://www.reddit.com/r/leaves/ community has a lot of good info. I'm about 5 weeks off of it and experienced intense insomnia for close to a week, about two weeks of feeling nauseous and a total lack of appetite, as well as really vivid, disconcerting dreams (once they began occurring again).

I'm starting to become convinced that the weed that's being cultivated now is stronger and more addictive than the plant is naturally supposed to be. I do miss all the high insights I got, as well as how fun it was to watch the sour videos, but the late nights, munchies and intense brain fog the next day really started to drag me down. Not to mention the total lack of motivation to do basic chores that crept in. I miss it occasionally, but ultimately the juice wasn't worth the squeeze. Best of luck to everyone in their sobriety, and keep at it. The clarity in your thinking alone will be more than worth it.
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    Theyre has been good weed for centuries just not everywhere.  When the US gov. says that weed is 10 times stronger then in the 50s they mean shiddy mex weed that wasnt even bud and they do that to trick soccer moms dude.  Think about it, hash has always been around so theres your high concentration of thc right there, so some strong weed isnt bringing any high to the table that people havent already gotten for centuries.  Dont believe or propigate the anti drug hype jus cause ur going sober.  It is a cancer.
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I could post links to multiple studies proving that you're wrong, but why are you in a sobriety thread telling people not to propagate anti drug hype? Take your tone policing elsewhere and fuck off.
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   What am I wrong about dickhead?, post away dude.  Has hash not existed for centuries?  Where are the 200 year old examples of weed from Afghanistan to fairly compare anyway.  This is why u American fucks turn religious when going straight-  needing to do this dramatic 180.  ďMultiple studiesĒ. -Jesus Christ help us.
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I wasn't talking about hash. That was a straw man argument that you introduced. Looking at your post history you seem to be a judgmental pedantic nitpicker, same as you did here. Are you angry postin cuz you're jonesin for weed or what?
   Fuck u yes Iím jonsing for weed.  Again I ask, where is the 200 year old Afghan bud sample that would make any of the bullshit claims ur making verifiable?  The same bullshit claims the us war on drugs has made about weed since the 90s ?  scare tactics. 
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Post by: geneparmesan on February 04, 2020, 05:37:04 PM
   Fuck u yes Iím jonsing for weed.  Again I ask, where is the 200 year old Afghan bud sample that would make any of the bullshit claims ur making verifiable?  The same bullshit claims the us war on drugs has made about weed since the 90s ?  scare tactics.

LMAO. Once a pedant, always a pedant. You're not worth the time. Guys, sorry I fed the troll. Best of luck to everyone in their sobriety. Even, and especially you givecigstosurfgroms.
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Post by: straight on February 04, 2020, 05:45:28 PM
not reading any of that but giv cigs is the kinda guy that starts an argument and then ends up agreeing with your original point, makes your point for you and then ends by arguing against his original disagreement unknowingly . heís seems like heís really happy with his life though and i respect that
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Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on February 04, 2020, 08:12:16 PM
Once a pendantic always a pendantic but im not an 'addict'. I just quit weed after a 10 year stint but im sleeping fine and im not crying like a crybaby.
    Edit and thank you for the well wishes, that is def cool.  And i also appologize if ive falsely given the impression im completely happy with where ive gotten myself.  Im alright for sure but...  need alot of work.
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Post by: iKobrakai on February 04, 2020, 10:32:21 PM
Givecigs, why are you even in this topic?
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Post by: givecigstosurfgroms on February 05, 2020, 03:35:44 AM
Givecigs, why are you even in this topic?
    Iím off the weed cause Iím in south east Asia. Totally sobs.   I guess I quit heroin cold turkey 15 years ago no relapses or dorky programs but itís just common sense to quit that shit.  Not something of much note. Edit maybe you are insinuating Iím not being helpful. Sorry if thatís the case.  Stay good.
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Post by: Womb Service on February 05, 2020, 04:22:37 AM
Great thread, made me create an account and share my journey on the wagon.

My ultimate goal is being able to drink in moderation but it's still hard to see myself do that after 2-3 years of drinking 6-8 beers on week days and Jah knows how many over the weekend.

Quit drinking for over a month now and I've been starting to notice the positive differences as of the start of week 4.

If anyone out there has tried or really wants to quit but doesn't seem able to, it really gets better with time.

In my experience, it took 3 weeks of having pretty bad mood swings and feeling lazy (nothing different than when I was drinking apart from the beers not being an option to numb my negative thoughts)

As soon as my mood slowly started improving and energy levels went back up, I made myself get up an hour earlier to do some kind of exercise before work (office job - sitting down 8 hours a day 5 days/week) as I'm currently coming back from an injury which has stopped me from skating for about a month now.

Still a work in progress and I have done a month on the wagon here and there before but this is the first time where I've been wanting to keep it going as I'm blown away by how much better I feel both mentally and physically.

Can't wait to finally get back on the board with a body and mind that doesn't consist of 60% beer.

Good luck too all of you trying to make positive changes in their lives!
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Post by: iKobrakai on February 05, 2020, 05:14:25 AM
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Givecigs, why are you even in this topic?
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    Iím off the weed cause Iím in south east Asia. Totally sobs.   I guess I quit heroin cold turkey 15 years ago no relapses or dorky programs but itís just common sense to quit that shit.  Not something of much note. Edit maybe you are insinuating Iím not being helpful. Sorry if thatís the case.  Stay good.

Was a real question.
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Post by: burtreynolds.jpeg on February 05, 2020, 05:47:28 AM
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I am thinking about giving up drinking for good. Just want my mental and physical health to get back up to 100%.
However, I want to get back out into the dating scene and it's super hard to go around and meet girls outside of bars and parties.

Any sober bros got any helpful tips?
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Meet sober girls online?
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I was in the same boat. Stopped drinking/doing drugs and realized it had been almost a decade since I went on a first (or second/third/20th) date sober. Tried to go to bars sober but probably looked like a creep, would go on dates with people I casually met in public but there was almost no deep connection and my only hobby was skateboarding.

Eventually, tried online dating after a couple years of sobriety. Met my wife from online dating, don't regret a thing.

That's awesome to hear that. Good for you!
I hopped on Tinder but every other girl is holding a drink in their hand or talk about shotgunning a white claw. Probably because I'm in my mid 20's and live in a city where drinking is embedded in socialization.
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Post by: iKobrakai on February 05, 2020, 06:45:14 AM
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I am thinking about giving up drinking for good. Just want my mental and physical health to get back up to 100%.
However, I want to get back out into the dating scene and it's super hard to go around and meet girls outside of bars and parties.

Any sober bros got any helpful tips?
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Meet sober girls online?
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I was in the same boat. Stopped drinking/doing drugs and realized it had been almost a decade since I went on a first (or second/third/20th) date sober. Tried to go to bars sober but probably looked like a creep, would go on dates with people I casually met in public but there was almost no deep connection and my only hobby was skateboarding.

Eventually, tried online dating after a couple years of sobriety. Met my wife from online dating, don't regret a thing.
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That's awesome to hear that. Good for you!
I hopped on Tinder but every other girl is holding a drink in their hand or talk about shotgunning a white claw. Probably because I'm in my mid 20's and live in a city where drinking is embedded in socialization.

That shit is hard to re-program. Start lifting and eating well. People will lable you as "health freak" but in reality you're twelve months away from shooting up in an alley.

Still don't really know how to deal with that shit, six years deep.
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Post by: Sleazy on February 05, 2020, 08:16:21 AM
Great thread, made me create an account and share my journey on the wagon.

My ultimate goal is being able to drink in moderation but it's still hard to see myself do that after 2-3 years of drinking 6-8 beers on week days and Jah knows how many over the weekend.

Quit drinking for over a month now and I've been starting to notice the positive differences as of the start of week 4.

If anyone out there has tried or really wants to quit but doesn't seem able to, it really gets better with time.

In my experience, it took 3 weeks of having pretty bad mood swings and feeling lazy (nothing different than when I was drinking apart from the beers not being an option to numb my negative thoughts)

As soon as my mood slowly started improving and energy levels went back up, I made myself get up an hour earlier to do some kind of exercise before work (office job - sitting down 8 hours a day 5 days/week) as I'm currently coming back from an injury which has stopped me from skating for about a month now.

Still a work in progress and I have done a month on the wagon here and there before but this is the first time where I've been wanting to keep it going as I'm blown away by how much better I feel both mentally and physically.

Can't wait to finally get back on the board with a body and mind that doesn't consist of 60% beer.

Good luck too all of you trying to make positive changes in their lives!

props man and welcome to the board


new trick i've been doing lately. i keep mexican cokes in the fridge and at the end of the day when i'm tired and want to relax with a drink it makes a nice treat plus has some caffeine and sugar. been leaning on those and flavored soda water. also been hitting the kind bars at night for a tv watching treat.
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Post by: WastedHippy on February 05, 2020, 03:05:40 PM
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Great thread, made me create an account and share my journey on the wagon.

My ultimate goal is being able to drink in moderation but it's still hard to see myself do that after 2-3 years of drinking 6-8 beers on week days and Jah knows how many over the weekend.

Quit drinking for over a month now and I've been starting to notice the positive differences as of the start of week 4.

If anyone out there has tried or really wants to quit but doesn't seem able to, it really gets better with time.

In my experience, it took 3 weeks of having pretty bad mood swings and feeling lazy (nothing different than when I was drinking apart from the beers not being an option to numb my negative thoughts)

As soon as my mood slowly started improving and energy levels went back up, I made myself get up an hour earlier to do some kind of exercise before work (office job - sitting down 8 hours a day 5 days/week) as I'm currently coming back from an injury which has stopped me from skating for about a month now.

Still a work in progress and I have done a month on the wagon here and there before but this is the first time where I've been wanting to keep it going as I'm blown away by how much better I feel both mentally and physically.

Can't wait to finally get back on the board with a body and mind that doesn't consist of 60% beer.

Good luck too all of you trying to make positive changes in their lives!
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props man and welcome to the board


new trick i've been doing lately. i keep mexican cokes in the fridge and at the end of the day when i'm tired and want to relax with a drink it makes a nice treat plus has some caffeine and sugar. been leaning on those and flavored soda water. also been hitting the kind bars at night for a tv watching treat.

These are actually pretty damn good, I was always a sucker for these ones:
(https://dr9wvh6oz7mzp.cloudfront.net/i/60f6edad3dff34c239a1ad8051340ed4_ra,w380,h380_pa,w380,h380.png)
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: rawr1922 on February 06, 2020, 03:01:18 PM
^ those are pretty tasty. Just saw a commercial comparing cliff bars & kind bars. Can't believe I used to love cliff bars years ago.

Almost broke down earlier in the week by going to a dispensary and a bar. So close amigos, happy I didn't. Two months almost gone down the drain for temporary happiness. Think the problem involves lack of exercising and eating like shit lately. Really need to follow routine to keep mind content. I shudder thinking about how would have felt if I relapsed. Never wanna feel like that again. The come down so awful. Feelings of guilt, regret, spending money on something I shouldn't have , and flopping into a negative funk that takes awhile to get over. Also whenever indulging in the past would have to stay out late due to not running into sober roommates. Which made me feel like a junkie cuz I had to avoid people. Thinking of all that stopped me. Been down that road 100s of times. Super close one gents! One day at a time then dreaming of the day of hitting 1 year.   
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Womb Service on February 07, 2020, 12:34:02 AM
Good on you man! I'm still getting used to being around the boys when everyone's drinking but me.
It defenitely helps getting a rountine going that makes you feel better - it can really be anything and doesn't need to take too much effort as long as it gives you some sense of accomplishment.

And hey, every day you add to your number of days being sober is already a huge accomplishment!

I did come here hoping to get some advice on a situation one of my dear friends is in, as maybe some of you may have been in this position yourselves.

He's completely losing his mind due to coke and alcohol and it's very upsetting to progressively see him get worse every single time we hang out. It's got to the point where you cannot hold a conversation with him. Jumps back and forth the weirdest subjects and nothing that comes out makes any sense. This guy is an intelligent and all round good person, known him for years but barely recognise him anymore when we're talking. Last time I saw him I had to come up with an excuse to remove myself from the situation because I couldn't handle it.

I've had talks with him before and know some close friends have too but he doesn't seem to see how bad it's become. What mainly scares the shit out of me it the thought that if something were to happen, I'd regret not talking sense into him.

The difficult thing is that he never seems to be in a state where I feel me bringing up that he needs to find help or do something about this is appropriate because he's always drunk or high when I see him and feel that he wouldn't take it seriously.

Of course I don't want to fall out with him as I love the dude but I feel like someone needs to have this conversation with him before it's too late.

If anyone has any advice on approaching this thing, It'd be greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Benchpress on February 07, 2020, 12:54:22 AM
Good on you man! I'm still getting used to being around the boys when everyone's drinking but me.
It defenitely helps getting a rountine going that makes you feel better - it can really be anything and doesn't need to take too much effort as long as it gives you some sense of accomplishment.

And hey, every day you add to your number of days being sober is already a huge accomplishment!

I did come here hoping to get some advice on a situation one of my dear friends is in, as maybe some of you may have been in this position yourselves.

He's completely losing his mind due to coke and alcohol and it's very upsetting to progressively see him get worse every single time we hang out. It's got to the point where you cannot hold a conversation with him. Jumps back and forth the weirdest subjects and nothing that comes out makes any sense. This guy is an intelligent and all round good person, known him for years but barely recognise him anymore when we're talking. Last time I saw him I had to come up with an excuse to remove myself from the situation because I couldn't handle it.

I've had talks with him before and know some close friends have too but he doesn't seem to see how bad it's become. What mainly scares the shit out of me it the thought that if something were to happen, I'd regret not talking sense into him.

The difficult thing is that he never seems to be in a state where I feel me bringing up that he needs to find help or do something about this is appropriate because he's always drunk or high when I see him and feel that he wouldn't take it seriously.

Of course I don't want to fall out with him as I love the dude but I feel like someone needs to have this conversation with him before it's too late.

If anyone has any advice on approaching this thing, It'd be greatly appreciated!

Unfortunately man there is nothing more you can do than offer support, offer to listen, and have a shoulder to cry on. You, and other people have said your piece to him. I'm sure he's aware that he's in a troublesome spot but as a lot of people struggling with alcohol and drug issues, are too afraid to admit it.

You can't chase people all day every day trying to get them to cool it, the want to change has to come from within them, all you can do is offer to be there as much as you can when they do have that realization.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: El Fapinator on February 13, 2020, 07:22:06 AM
What Iíve been contemplating on when Iím in a depressed mood is this.

What I found is that when I was drinking, loneliness, sadness, existential despair, they were all still there. I quieted them down and tried to deaden my feelings, but they never left me. They always came back with compounded interest. Especially when very drunk, they would come to the surface.

Depression, loneliness, sadness, sense of futility. I think if we are honest with ourselves about the reality of life, we all have these feelings. However when you are drunk, you don't have strength. I think strength is imperative when facing reality head on. If you have that strength, you can look at these things and say, yeah I feel sad, I feel lonely, but these are my feelings, not some chemical. And conversely, when you are happy, those feelings are your feelings as well. We will always have happiness and tears, but I find that I am stronger and better equipped to deal with sadness sober than I was when I was drunk. I can think about things in a more objective way. I'm not a victim. I am free.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: fakie nollie on February 13, 2020, 07:34:41 AM
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Good on you man! I'm still getting used to being around the boys when everyone's drinking but me.
It defenitely helps getting a rountine going that makes you feel better - it can really be anything and doesn't need to take too much effort as long as it gives you some sense of accomplishment.

And hey, every day you add to your number of days being sober is already a huge accomplishment!

I did come here hoping to get some advice on a situation one of my dear friends is in, as maybe some of you may have been in this position yourselves.

He's completely losing his mind due to coke and alcohol and it's very upsetting to progressively see him get worse every single time we hang out. It's got to the point where you cannot hold a conversation with him. Jumps back and forth the weirdest subjects and nothing that comes out makes any sense. This guy is an intelligent and all round good person, known him for years but barely recognise him anymore when we're talking. Last time I saw him I had to come up with an excuse to remove myself from the situation because I couldn't handle it.

I've had talks with him before and know some close friends have too but he doesn't seem to see how bad it's become. What mainly scares the shit out of me it the thought that if something were to happen, I'd regret not talking sense into him.

The difficult thing is that he never seems to be in a state where I feel me bringing up that he needs to find help or do something about this is appropriate because he's always drunk or high when I see him and feel that he wouldn't take it seriously.

Of course I don't want to fall out with him as I love the dude but I feel like someone needs to have this conversation with him before it's too late.

If anyone has any advice on approaching this thing, It'd be greatly appreciated!
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Unfortunately man there is nothing more you can do than offer support, offer to listen, and have a shoulder to cry on. You, and other people have said your piece to him. I'm sure he's aware that he's in a troublesome spot but as a lot of people struggling with alcohol and drug issues, are too afraid to admit it.

You can't chase people all day every day trying to get them to cool it, the want to change has to come from within them, all you can do is offer to be there as much as you can when they do have that realization.

There was a night when I was 19 and my best friend was starting to go into the deep end. He took a bunch of Xanax and drove away from a a party we were at. His mom called me the next morning and said she hadnít heard from him. Immediately, feeling the guilt of his death on my shoulders, I told her everything I knew about the night before. She found him parked in the middle of the road, facing the opposite direction of traffic, asleep at 7am.

Iím not saying you should immediately run to his family but, if youíre legitimately concerned and itís an option, I would talk to them.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Sleazy on February 13, 2020, 09:14:07 AM
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Great thread, made me create an account and share my journey on the wagon.

My ultimate goal is being able to drink in moderation but it's still hard to see myself do that after 2-3 years of drinking 6-8 beers on week days and Jah knows how many over the weekend.

Quit drinking for over a month now and I've been starting to notice the positive differences as of the start of week 4.

If anyone out there has tried or really wants to quit but doesn't seem able to, it really gets better with time.

In my experience, it took 3 weeks of having pretty bad mood swings and feeling lazy (nothing different than when I was drinking apart from the beers not being an option to numb my negative thoughts)

As soon as my mood slowly started improving and energy levels went back up, I made myself get up an hour earlier to do some kind of exercise before work (office job - sitting down 8 hours a day 5 days/week) as I'm currently coming back from an injury which has stopped me from skating for about a month now.

Still a work in progress and I have done a month on the wagon here and there before but this is the first time where I've been wanting to keep it going as I'm blown away by how much better I feel both mentally and physically.

Can't wait to finally get back on the board with a body and mind that doesn't consist of 60% beer.

Good luck too all of you trying to make positive changes in their lives!
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props man and welcome to the board


new trick i've been doing lately. i keep mexican cokes in the fridge and at the end of the day when i'm tired and want to relax with a drink it makes a nice treat plus has some caffeine and sugar. been leaning on those and flavored soda water. also been hitting the kind bars at night for a tv watching treat.
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These are actually pretty damn good, I was always a sucker for these ones:
(https://dr9wvh6oz7mzp.cloudfront.net/i/60f6edad3dff34c239a1ad8051340ed4_ra,w380,h380_pa,w380,h380.png)

i'll have to get those in the mix. i keep three different types stocked usually and the one below is me and the kids current favorite. i like having a coconut option too. i actually like these better than candy bars at this point, so satisfying.

(https://globalassets.starbucks.com/assets/e519fc69a8a845978a6bf7b18218fdcf.jpg)
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: jack burton on February 24, 2020, 10:24:38 AM
Coming up on three years with out a drink and im really starting to not give a shit anymore. I hate AA and the only thing my other sober friends offer up is that drinking is not worth it. Would see a therapist but I stopped due to it being $80 a visit and now they no longer take my insurance. So I have come here to rant about struggling with sobriety while isolated in the suburbs.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: 50mm on February 24, 2020, 12:57:00 PM
20 days no weed today. Hoping to stay off it forever. I like it but it's always such a game changer when I quit.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Womb Service on February 25, 2020, 01:38:05 AM
20 days no weed today. Hoping to stay off it forever. I like it but it's always such a game changer when I quit.

Good job man!

Still off the sauce. Amost two months and it's still weird in certain situations.

Never really considered to quit weed though.

I did drastically cut down from smoking all day to now only smoking a tiny spliff in the evenings and I like it to self-reflect at the end of the day and look at things from different perspective.

Of course it impacts every individual differently but I'm interested in hearing what made you want to quit.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: os89 on February 25, 2020, 04:56:59 AM
Really stoked for you guys keeping it up. I am still struggling a bit with my shit, but hope to get it together soon. Fuck opiates holy shit. Need to get my drinking in order now (weed will have to wait). Really love to read about all you pals actually having the strength to do it, regardless of what specifically it actually is your giving up, its not easy, but its not impossible. Shalom y'all!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: chris. on February 25, 2020, 07:19:41 PM
Never really clicked around Whatever since I came back to Slap but Iím glad I found this thread. Iíll post a little more at some point but just wanted to check in and say much love to everybody here.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: 50mm on February 25, 2020, 08:11:02 PM
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20 days no weed today. Hoping to stay off it forever. I like it but it's always such a game changer when I quit.
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Good job man!

Still off the sauce. Amost two months and it's still weird in certain situations.

Never really considered to quit weed though.

I did drastically cut down from smoking all day to now only smoking a tiny spliff in the evenings and I like it to self-reflect at the end of the day and look at things from different perspective.

Of course it impacts every individual differently but I'm interested in hearing what made you want to quit.
Well for one thing, smoking regular weed just makes me so slow and unmotivated. For the last several months I was buying supposedly CBD weed just so that it would be much weaker and not make me feel so burned out. I can't moderate my smoking. Its all or nothing. The longest I've quit in the past like 10 years was like 6 months and I was way more responsible and functional and able to handle things. More outgoing and less anxious. So I've always wished I could just smoke occasionally but it always turns into an everyday thing. I was smoking that weak stuff, and it kind of worked, but I would still space out around my girlfriend and at work. I started going back to my psych because of my anxiety and inability to function at work and I'm honest when I talk with them. He said he would only treat me and prescribe medication if I was willing to submit to drug testing. It's actually something that a lot of psychiatrists are doing to cover their asses with new laws. I agreed because being on medication makes me much more functional and able to enjoy life and I value that more than getting high. I was already cutting back so much I thought it would be a great way to make sure that I didn't have the option to smoke because I will be held accountable and there will be consequences if I do. I've only quit for more than a month like 3 or 4 times in all these years, and the fact that I'm on a great medication combo has made me not even really think about it too much. I had really bad cravings about a week ago, but it has passed and I don't even really count the days, I just kind of think oh wow, its been 20 days.

I've tried to quit and stick with it for like 6 years now and I always give in. I'm a total bum when I'm smoking, and the total opposite when I don't. I wish I could control it but I know I can't. Weed is the only substance I have ever had trouble quitting oddly enough. And I never even got into like all kinds of crazy concentrates. Just like regular ass weed and edibles before CA regulated them to be a weak waste of money.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Womb Service on February 26, 2020, 05:51:34 AM
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20 days no weed today. Hoping to stay off it forever. I like it but it's always such a game changer when I quit.
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Good job man!

Still off the sauce. Amost two months and it's still weird in certain situations.

Never really considered to quit weed though.

I did drastically cut down from smoking all day to now only smoking a tiny spliff in the evenings and I like it to self-reflect at the end of the day and look at things from different perspective.

Of course it impacts every individual differently but I'm interested in hearing what made you want to quit.
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Well for one thing, smoking regular weed just makes me so slow and unmotivated. For the last several months I was buying supposedly CBD weed just so that it would be much weaker and not make me feel so burned out. I can't moderate my smoking. Its all or nothing. The longest I've quit in the past like 10 years was like 6 months and I was way more responsible and functional and able to handle things. More outgoing and less anxious. So I've always wished I could just smoke occasionally but it always turns into an everyday thing. I was smoking that weak stuff, and it kind of worked, but I would still space out around my girlfriend and at work. I started going back to my psych because of my anxiety and inability to function at work and I'm honest when I talk with them. He said he would only treat me and prescribe medication if I was willing to submit to drug testing. It's actually something that a lot of psychiatrists are doing to cover their asses with new laws. I agreed because being on medication makes me much more functional and able to enjoy life and I value that more than getting high. I was already cutting back so much I thought it would be a great way to make sure that I didn't have the option to smoke because I will be held accountable and there will be consequences if I do. I've only quit for more than a month like 3 or 4 times in all these years, and the fact that I'm on a great medication combo has made me not even really think about it too much. I had really bad cravings about a week ago, but it has passed and I don't even really count the days, I just kind of think oh wow, its been 20 days.

I've tried to quit and stick with it for like 6 years now and I always give in. I'm a total bum when I'm smoking, and the total opposite when I don't. I wish I could control it but I know I can't. Weed is the only substance I have ever had trouble quitting oddly enough. And I never even got into like all kinds of crazy concentrates. Just like regular ass weed and edibles before CA regulated them to be a weak waste of money.

I feel you. Being unproductive was one of the reasons for me to cut down. On top of that I felt that being high all day also made me avoid social interaction when possible. I'm already a quite reserved and introverted person so smoking weed only amplifies that.

Can't relate much to the anxiety as the only episodes I've had were when coming down from benders in the past and those were terrible. Can only imagine how it feels dealing with this on a regular basis.

I know this isn't for everyone but mushrooms really helped me make mental clicks to start different and healthier lifestyle routines.

I would always realize when my drinking or drug use started getting out of hand and that I needed to quit but once stuck in a negative pattern, feeling that these substances are the only way to feel good, made it hard to actually make changes.

Some guy used the analogy of your mind being a snow topped mountain and every day you take your sled and go down. By going down the mountain you create grooves in the snow, these grooves being your daily routines. Over time, every day you go sled down you can't help but slip back into these grooves. When having an intense experience on mushrooms it's like there's fresh snow on your mountain and you can take a different way down without slipping back into these old grooves.

Sounds corny but I find it quite accurate. After a trip where I've felt so connected with nature and being so deep into my thoughts, I usually come out with a new appreciation of everything and everyone around me and this motivates me to work on things I don't like about my life/behaviour and actually stick to them.

Lately starting thinking how fortunate I feel about having found skateboarding 15 years ago. I realize I've wasted the past 3 years due to drinking and partying which at first was a bummer. Now I'm more stoked than ever as this injury is finally healed up, I'm in the best shape I've been in since my early 20's and I'm looking at my first session in 2 months this weekend.

Hope talking to the psych helps and things start looking brighter soon - hang in there!

Really stoked for you guys keeping it up. I am still struggling a bit with my shit, but hope to get it together soon. Fuck opiates holy shit. Need to get my drinking in order now (weed will have to wait). Really love to read about all you pals actually having the strength to do it, regardless of what specifically it actually is your giving up, its not easy, but its not impossible. Shalom y'all!

Drinking is a damn hard one to give up but as you said: regardless of what specifically it actually is your giving up, its not easy, but its not impossible.

All the best to you!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Abyss1 on February 26, 2020, 06:15:46 PM
been doing the sober thing on and off for last 3yrs, like 1 1/2 months max, then a couple weeks of drinking...which has at least one day of drinking binging (6-12 beers nothing heavy).

This year i've gotten past the furthest and was gifted my favorite beer last week. kind of almost gave into drinking them yesterday...even though im not drinking I STRONGLY believe one should NEVER waste alcohol or weed, not going to throw them away... the will power prevailed thanks to video games
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: 50mm on February 26, 2020, 06:58:41 PM
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20 days no weed today. Hoping to stay off it forever. I like it but it's always such a game changer when I quit.
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Good job man!

Still off the sauce. Amost two months and it's still weird in certain situations.

Never really considered to quit weed though.

I did drastically cut down from smoking all day to now only smoking a tiny spliff in the evenings and I like it to self-reflect at the end of the day and look at things from different perspective.

Of course it impacts every individual differently but I'm interested in hearing what made you want to quit.
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Well for one thing, smoking regular weed just makes me so slow and unmotivated. For the last several months I was buying supposedly CBD weed just so that it would be much weaker and not make me feel so burned out. I can't moderate my smoking. Its all or nothing. The longest I've quit in the past like 10 years was like 6 months and I was way more responsible and functional and able to handle things. More outgoing and less anxious. So I've always wished I could just smoke occasionally but it always turns into an everyday thing. I was smoking that weak stuff, and it kind of worked, but I would still space out around my girlfriend and at work. I started going back to my psych because of my anxiety and inability to function at work and I'm honest when I talk with them. He said he would only treat me and prescribe medication if I was willing to submit to drug testing. It's actually something that a lot of psychiatrists are doing to cover their asses with new laws. I agreed because being on medication makes me much more functional and able to enjoy life and I value that more than getting high. I was already cutting back so much I thought it would be a great way to make sure that I didn't have the option to smoke because I will be held accountable and there will be consequences if I do. I've only quit for more than a month like 3 or 4 times in all these years, and the fact that I'm on a great medication combo has made me not even really think about it too much. I had really bad cravings about a week ago, but it has passed and I don't even really count the days, I just kind of think oh wow, its been 20 days.

I've tried to quit and stick with it for like 6 years now and I always give in. I'm a total bum when I'm smoking, and the total opposite when I don't. I wish I could control it but I know I can't. Weed is the only substance I have ever had trouble quitting oddly enough. And I never even got into like all kinds of crazy concentrates. Just like regular ass weed and edibles before CA regulated them to be a weak waste of money.
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I feel you. Being unproductive was one of the reasons for me to cut down. On top of that I felt that being high all day also made me avoid social interaction when possible. I'm already a quite reserved and introverted person so smoking weed only amplifies that.

Can't relate much to the anxiety as the only episodes I've had were when coming down from benders in the past and those were terrible. Can only imagine how it feels dealing with this on a regular basis.

I know this isn't for everyone but mushrooms really helped me make mental clicks to start different and healthier lifestyle routines.

I would always realize when my drinking or drug use started getting out of hand and that I needed to quit but once stuck in a negative pattern, feeling that these substances are the only way to feel good, made it hard to actually make changes.

Some guy used the analogy of your mind being a snow topped mountain and every day you take your sled and go down. By going down the mountain you create grooves in the snow, these grooves being your daily routines. Over time, every day you go sled down you can't help but slip back into these grooves. When having an intense experience on mushrooms it's like there's fresh snow on your mountain and you can take a different way down without slipping back into these old grooves.

Sounds corny but I find it quite accurate. After a trip where I've felt so connected with nature and being so deep into my thoughts, I usually come out with a new appreciation of everything and everyone around me and this motivates me to work on things I don't like about my life/behaviour and actually stick to them.

Lately starting thinking how fortunate I feel about having found skateboarding 15 years ago. I realize I've wasted the past 3 years due to drinking and partying which at first was a bummer. Now I'm more stoked than ever as this injury is finally healed up, I'm in the best shape I've been in since my early 20's and I'm looking at my first session in 2 months this weekend.

Hope talking to the psych helps and things start looking brighter soon - hang in there!

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Really stoked for you guys keeping it up. I am still struggling a bit with my shit, but hope to get it together soon. Fuck opiates holy shit. Need to get my drinking in order now (weed will have to wait). Really love to read about all you pals actually having the strength to do it, regardless of what specifically it actually is your giving up, its not easy, but its not impossible. Shalom y'all!
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Drinking is a damn hard one to give up but as you said: regardless of what specifically it actually is your giving up, its not easy, but its not impossible.

All the best to you!
Makes sense to me. And honestly I have been wanting to do mushrooms for a couple years now, just haven't had an opportunity. Even my girlfriend who is anti-drug has talked about wanting to do it, she did a tiny bit when she was young, but didn't feel it too crazy, she's never even smoked weed lol. Weed is the only thing I have a problem with. Even though I drank a ton when I was young, I never had trouble stopping. I've done blow for like a whole summer and never bought it for personal use or had trouble stopping, have taken pain pills and all that shit. Only weed is a problem for me, I think it is for a lot of people but there is so much bullshit pro-pot propaganda, it's just as dumb to me as ant-pot propaganda. Everything in moderation, and I think I clicked with weed because my mind races so much with anxiety that it would slow it down, but too much so. When I first drank I liked it because it made me less anxious at parties, but still, I never had a problem with it. I've gotten in trouble with drinking, but just the kind that any skate type kid could. I got a DUI at 19 because we were leaving a show and my friends were totally shit faced. I didn't drive us there but I was too scared to let them drive and got popped. A car was riding my ass in my friends fucked up car, and as I'm about to stop at a light I didn't stop all the way because I thought they were going to hit us. Then the blue and red lights, and that's all she wrote. But like now, I had 2 or 3 drinks on Christmas, and besides that I drank like maybe 1 time the whole year prior. Still haven't had a drink since then. I will in a week or so though because I'm moving home and Chili's is right there, and I love those fucking margaritas lol.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on February 29, 2020, 05:41:02 PM
Coming up on three years with out a drink and im really starting to not give a shit anymore. I hate AA and the only thing my other sober friends offer up is that drinking is not worth it. Would see a therapist but I stopped due to it being $80 a visit and now they no longer take my insurance. So I have come here to rant about struggling with sobriety while isolated in the suburbs.

Yo my G, big ups on the 3 years. I'm somewhere past 4 and it's been real. I've hit points where i've started to not give a fuck and think about drinking again, but i remind myself of how much trouble I am NOT in and that i've got my shit halfway together in a way that I wouldn't if I was still drinking. I've gone on substitution benders with other shit in the past 4 years, but I come from a place where everything can be a party- driving to the store- bring a road soda, go to the skatepark- best have a 6er in the backpack- hit the bar for lunch, go do some shit have some drinks, go to the bar again. blah blah blah. i'm writing this out, really, to remind myself.

DMT and buddhist meditation have been the best things to show me something better than the sauce. no joke. anyways, you got this!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: iKobrakai on March 01, 2020, 01:00:59 AM
been doing the sober thing on and off for last 3yrs, like 1 1/2 months max, then a couple weeks of drinking...which has at least one day of drinking binging (6-12 beers nothing heavy).

This year i've gotten past the furthest and was gifted my favorite beer last week. kind of almost gave into drinking them yesterday...even though im not drinking I STRONGLY believe one should NEVER waste alcohol or weed, not going to throw them away... the will power prevailed thanks to video games

Never waste drugs? When I was fiending, I'd take as much as I could and fall a sleep ten minutes later. Wake up sick and wish I did not waste all that dope.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Carrolls Chesthairs on March 01, 2020, 05:53:10 AM
Thought I was gonna celebrate last night cause an article of mine got posted but I went out to dinner then bought these instead. Onto month three of sobriety
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Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: rawr1922 on March 26, 2020, 03:13:04 AM
Mental health declining so hopping back on the sober train.   
Day 1 again
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Abyss1 on March 26, 2020, 07:33:46 AM
Thought I was gonna celebrate last night cause an article of mine got posted but I went out to dinner then bought these instead. Onto month three of sobriety
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Yea this whole quarantine thing has me bored at times ... and a couple of times when I went to the local 7-11 I thought about getting some tall boys but end up getting Red Bullís

Been about to 10yrs since Iíve been 4 months sober
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: S. on March 26, 2020, 08:29:53 AM
Yo. I joined you guys about four weeks ago. My girlfriend convinced me to join her in giving up alcohol for lent this year. I am not religious at all but I figured it would be a good way to get in shape for spring.

It definitely felt abit weird on the first two weekends to go out without drinking. I have a bit of social anxiety sometimes and drinking always does wonders for that. It was fine though. I kind of got a littel buzz off the vibe of the people arround me and I just left when people got annoying. I have more energy now and it is great not to get hangovers. I have regretted my comitment abit since Corona forces me to spend so much time at home. Some days I would like to relax with a few beers. I also miss drinking when playing music with friends.
I will definitely get back into moderate drinking after easter. 
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: EdLawndale on March 26, 2020, 04:48:33 PM
Like a lot of ppl, I grew up binge drinking. Growing up where I grew up with the ppl I grew up with, it was all I knew. Started with the house parties in HS then continued through college & pretty much thereafter. After my pops died just before I turned 30, I was drinking heavily & ended up in the hospital one night with alcohol poisoning. Collapsed in a bar, had to be picked up in an ambulance, lost my wallet & car keys (incl. my bloop-bloop alarm shit), forced a female co-worker to have to babysit me, etc. I also shit my pants lol (though nobody knew that). The whole thing ended up costing me about $3,000 & was embarrassing & if it had happened an hour earlier, i could have lost my job as I had been double-fisting partying on company grounds. I realized i didn't want to blackout anymore and have to try to piece together my actions of nights previous.

I went to AA but that was all on that God shit. I also had no real intention of ceasing drinking completely. Plus, there was a lot of ppl in AA that really should be in NA (but they don't want to go there due to the stigma).

Finally, I went to a session of Moderation Management, which is more science-based than faith-based. It also does not promote complete sobriety but rather moderation. It made me look at my drinking more from a self-harm prevention perspective, i.e. how can you drink without putting yourself in a position to harm yourself/be harmed.

The Moderation Management program recommends ceasing drinking and drug use for about 6 months when you start. I didn't drink for 6 months (and stopped smoking weed for 3 month).

After which I began to slowly incorporate drinking back into my life. Nowadays, I no longer drink on the way to the bar/party to save money, I drink waters costantly all night when I go out and drink alcohol (it makes me have to pee more but F it, better than getting destroyed), If I drink bottled beers I keep count of the caps in my pocket and I rarely if ever partake in open bars. I have to hold myself accountable through either having to drive later or not wanting to spend too much money.

I like being in control.

Eight or so years later and I have yet to ever blackout again. I don't vomit. I don'twonder what I did the night before. One night I did have too many gin martinis and stumbled home, but that was when I was trying to change from beer to gin for health reasons. I am in the bar often but never too drunk. In fact, I am often the person who ppl go to for advice when they fall into a habit of drinking too heavily. I usually don't proffer the advice until they approach me for help then I do it in a productive way.

I wish you all the best.

Note: Moderation Management is a controversial program because it does NOT promote abstinance and because its founder ultimately relapsed, killed someone in an automobile accident and then subsequently committed suicide. I only went to one session and that was enough for me to figure out the gist of the program for the most part.  It worked for me but I understand if some ppl need complete abstinence.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: iKobrakai on March 27, 2020, 01:10:30 AM
I also shit my pants lol (though nobody knew that)

Wrong. Everybody knew.

The Moderation Management program recommends ceasing drinking and drug use for about 6 months when you start.

Question: If I could do that, I would not be in the fucking program to begin with, right?
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Binomial Nomenclature on March 27, 2020, 04:27:27 AM
I don't think I have posted in this thread yet, but I have been reading all of it and I appreciate how open everyone is about their lifestyles and alcohol consumption. I'm still working out what approach is best for me.
I normally drink beer and wine in moderation, maybe like three beers three nights a week. But COVID-19 stress has got me drinking almost every night and in higher volume. My eating habits are also worse as I am stress eating. Anyone else experiencing this?
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Salsa Verde on March 27, 2020, 08:26:07 AM
I don't think I have posted in this thread yet, but I have been reading all of it and I appreciate how open everyone is about their lifestyles and alcohol consumption. I'm still working out what approach is best for me.
I normally drink beer and wine in moderation, maybe like three beers three nights a week. But COVID-19 stress has got me drinking almost every night and in higher volume. My eating habits are also worse as I am stress eating. Anyone else experiencing this?

Yes
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Fat Tire on March 27, 2020, 10:22:26 AM
I don't think I have posted in this thread yet, but I have been reading all of it and I appreciate how open everyone is about their lifestyles and alcohol consumption. I'm still working out what approach is best for me.
I normally drink beer and wine in moderation, maybe like three beers three nights a week. But COVID-19 stress has got me drinking almost every night and in higher volume. My eating habits are also worse as I am stress eating. Anyone else experiencing this?

I've been stress eating yes, I'm however cutting out all alcohol until this all blows over.

However long that takes.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: burtreynolds.jpeg on March 27, 2020, 11:34:39 AM
Proud to say I haven't drank in over 5 months.

My mental and physical health is still kinda shite having an autoimmune disease. However, I think not drinking helps me more than I think.

With everything going on in the world and my personal life, it's really hard to not break the sober train but maybe now is the time to gain back some consciousness and confidence to push through without a vice.

Cheers to anyone who is trying to get sober, and cheers to the people who can handle using substances. Hope you are all doing well and staying healthy!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on March 27, 2020, 12:59:49 PM
Proud to say I haven't drank in over 5 months.

My mental and physical health is still kinda shite having an autoimmune disease. However, I think not drinking helps me more than I think.

With everything going on in the world and my personal life, it's really hard to not break the sober train but maybe now is the time to gain back some consciousness and confidence to push through without a vice.

Cheers to anyone who is trying to get sober, and cheers to the people who can handle using substances. Hope you are all doing well and staying healthy!

big ups playa. even if no one else is, i'm proud of you!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: EdLawndale on March 27, 2020, 03:40:11 PM
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The Moderation Management program recommends ceasing drinking and drug use for about 6 months when you start.
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Question: If I could do that, I would not be in the fucking program to begin with, right?

You can't stop drinking for 6 months after you identify your bottom?  Maybe you should be in AA...
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: EdLawndale on March 27, 2020, 03:45:26 PM
This drinking thing is not for you, mate...
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: iKobrakai on March 27, 2020, 09:53:19 PM
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The Moderation Management program recommends ceasing drinking and drug use for about 6 months when you start.
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Question: If I could do that, I would not be in the fucking program to begin with, right?
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You can't stop drinking for 6 months after you identify your bottom?  Maybe you should be in AA...

That is my point. I used while being in the rehab...
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: rawr1922 on April 02, 2020, 01:02:37 PM
Taking my buddy for one last trip then helping him move to a 30 day rehab facility tomorrow. Happy for him.  Ironic, should be joining him but he's into harder stuff. Day 5 sober for me
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Flying Rodent on April 13, 2020, 04:57:56 PM
I'll try to avoid telling my entire life story here, but basically I'm 32 now and I've been drinking way too heavily since my early 20s. Before that I would binge drink on weekends, but at some point it started happening all through the week.

At it's worst, a few years ago, I was drinking up to 20 beers a night, at least every second day. Often the benders would last a good four or more days, then I might have one day off.

Since I met my fiance three years ago I've managed to keep it mostly to weekends, but I'm still unable to control myself once I hit the bottle. Every weekend, I literally write a list of mistakes not to repeat, yet I end up repeating them every time.

It's mostly staying up on my own, drinking a stupid amount and listening to music in a trance until I pass out on the couch. Often I'll wake up about 4am, stumble off to bed, then I'm awake at 6am without fail and can't get back to sleep.

It really fucks my weekends because I always feel like shit come Saturday. Lacking sleep, irritable, regretful of all the stupid fucking messages I sent to people the night before (usually just telling them how awesome they are - I'm a happy drunk for the most part) and time I wasted scrolling through instagram like a zombie. If I'm back home with my friends, it can be even worse because I get so excited that we just drink all afternoon while skating and then all fucking night. Fat chance of having a good skate after that.

Usually the only way to feel better and to make myself skate (or do any of my other hobbies) is to get back on the bottle. This has become another problem too: I find it really difficult to skate without drinking. It just feels so much better and I'm so much more motivated when I'm drinking beers.

Then there's Mondays, they're usually always fucked, even if i don't drink on Sunday. I don't feel normal again until Tuesday or Wednesday, and by Friday, I'm ready to do it all over again.

Well, two weekends ago I woke up Sunday morning in my bed, in a puddle of my own piss. I don't think that's ever happened before. My fiance - with whom I'm trying for a baby at the moment - was so fucking bummed. I was convinced last weekend would be different, but it was the same old story (sans pissing the bed).

Anyway, I think I've come to the end of the road and need to make some changes. I've felt like this a million times before. I can stay motivated for a time, and then something clicks and I'm back to my old self. Last October I went a whole month without a drop. It was great for about two weeks, then it was torture.

Part of the issue is that I cannot do moderation at all. I suppose, I'd ideally like to be able to keep drinking in moderation - but I'm starting to realise I may need to just quit altogether.

Any advice would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: fakie nollie on April 13, 2020, 07:33:28 PM
I'll try to avoid telling my entire life story here, but basically I'm 32 now and I've been drinking way too heavily since my early 20s. Before that I would binge drink on weekends, but at some point it started happening all through the week.

At it's worst, a few years ago, I was drinking up to 20 beers a night, at least every second day. Often the benders would last a good four or more days, then I might have one day off.

Since I met my fiance three years ago I've managed to keep it mostly to weekends, but I'm still unable to control myself once I hit the bottle. Every weekend, I literally write a list of mistakes not to repeat, yet I end up repeating them every time.

It's mostly staying up on my own, drinking a stupid amount and listening to music in a trance until I pass out on the couch. Often I'll wake up about 4am, stumble off to bed, then I'm awake at 6am without fail and can't get back to sleep.

It really fucks my weekends because I always feel like shit come Saturday. Lacking sleep, irritable, regretful of all the stupid fucking messages I sent to people the night before (usually just telling them how awesome they are - I'm a happy drunk for the most part) and time I wasted scrolling through instagram like a zombie. If I'm back home with my friends, it can be even worse because I get so excited that we just drink all afternoon while skating and then all fucking night. Fat chance of having a good skate after that.

Usually the only way to feel better and to make myself skate (or do any of my other hobbies) is to get back on the bottle. This has become another problem too: I find it really difficult to skate without drinking. It just feels so much better and I'm so much more motivated when I'm drinking beers.

Then there's Mondays, they're usually always fucked, even if i don't drink on Sunday. I don't feel normal again until Tuesday or Wednesday, and by Friday, I'm ready to do it all over again.

Well, two weekends ago I woke up Sunday morning in my bed, in a puddle of my own piss. I don't think that's ever happened before. My fiance - with whom I'm trying for a baby at the moment - was so fucking bummed. I was convinced last weekend would be different, but it was the same old story (sans pissing the bed).

Anyway, I think I've come to the end of the road and need to make some changes. I've felt like this a million times before. I can stay motivated for a time, and then something clicks and I'm back to my old self. Last October I went a whole month without a drop. It was great for about two weeks, then it was torture.

Part of the issue is that I cannot do moderation at all. I suppose, I'd ideally like to be able to keep drinking in moderation - but I'm starting to realise I may need to just quit altogether.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

I wrote a massive response but ended up deleting it. Given your situation, I would try to find an AA meeting around you. Being free, you'll meet some characters but you'll also meet some people you'll see eye-to-eye with. I don't go to NA anymore but, when I did, it was good knowing I wasn't alone and could talk to people who know what it's like.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: EdLawndale on April 14, 2020, 10:45:30 PM
Flying Rodent, do you consider this your "bottom"?
Is this the lowest point you are willing to let your drinking take you? Pissing yourself and scrolling your valuable time away off into The Ether?

If so, sounds like you wanna quit, bro. I say pick a date and go cold turkey if your body can handle it. Throw out all alcohol around your house. Find some AA meet ups either irl or online if ur under lockdown rn.

What did it feel like for you where the last 2 weeks of a past sober month were "torture"? Maybe if you can come up with a plan for how you are going to combat those feelings this time around, you will be more successful.

Does your fiancee drink? What's her deal?

As for hobbies and skating, don't worry about that shit. That shit is like riding a bike. You won't ever lose it and once your body and mind have acclimated to sober living, the creative and joyous stuff will be waiting for you to pick it back up.

Good luck, holmes.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: JudoOrigami on April 15, 2020, 04:53:08 AM
What helped me quit drinking was having no money I would just spend any extra money that would normally go to drinking at the start of the month on something else

shoes over booze
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Abyss1 on April 15, 2020, 12:38:12 PM
What helped me was actually addressing why I was drinking so much in the first place
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Flying Rodent on April 18, 2020, 03:35:38 AM
Flying Rodent, do you consider this your "bottom"?
Is this the lowest point you are willing to let your drinking take you? Pissing yourself and scrolling your valuable time away off into The Ether?

If so, sounds like you wanna quit, bro. I say pick a date and go cold turkey if your body can handle it. Throw out all alcohol around your house. Find some AA meet ups either irl or online if ur under lockdown rn.

What did it feel like for you where the last 2 weeks of a past sober month were "torture"? Maybe if you can come up with a plan for how you are going to combat those feelings this time around, you will be more successful.

Does your fiancee drink? What's her deal?

As for hobbies and skating, don't worry about that shit. That shit is like riding a bike. You won't ever lose it and once your body and mind have acclimated to sober living, the creative and joyous stuff will be waiting for you to pick it back up.

Good luck, holmes.

Thanks to everyone who replied, sorry it took me a week to reply.

Fakie Nollie - I've definitely considered AA before. Not seriously, but it's crossed my mind. I know there is a group where I live, I'll have to find out if they're doing it online during the pandemic. Hopefully they won't snicker at me when I explain "I'm an alcoholic who drinks on weekends". Hah.

EdLawndale - No, it's not my lowest point. A few years back I was much lower than I am now and drinking more. Living alone, avoiding my friends, smoking a lot of weed on and off (don't do that anymore) and working a dead-end job I fucking hated. I think the difference now is that I'm older and drinking is punishing my body more. The massive nights just absolutely ruin me now. I'm also on antidepressants and I don't think booze mixes well with them. It's like a big come down after a couple of days of drinking.

As for the torture, well, I felt really positive for those first couple of weeks. Healthy, motivated, etc. But then I just wanted to drink again. I was so resentful when the weekend came that I "couldn't" do it. Felt like time was dragging and nothing was very enjoyable. Didn't quite know what to do with myself. Would go skate and then not even want to go home, like there was nothing to look forward to.

The fiance does drink, but not often. She was a big party animal before we met. She's two years older than me and pretty mellow now. She can still hit it when it's called for, but usually doesn't touch the stuff or only has one or two drinks.

I hadn't planned to drink this weekend but I had a super shitty week at work and had a minor meltdown on Friday. I did manage to call it quits after a sixer last night and was in bed at 10.15pm. I was pretty stoked on that and was able to function well today. I'd like to think I can do this moderation thing but I know it's a slippery slope.

Thanks again to everyone who took the time to reply to me, it actually means a lot.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: EdLawndale on April 18, 2020, 10:18:02 PM
Good job on just the sixer
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Post by: Sila on April 18, 2020, 11:02:14 PM
It's all about the small victories. Hopefully they add up and you can keep up drinking in moderation or cut it entirely if that's what you need.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Abyss1 on June 17, 2020, 01:29:47 PM
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Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: NoComply180 on June 17, 2020, 01:51:09 PM
This quarantine period has made me realize drinking has become my default way of spending time when Iím not working. It feels like itís been a gradual evolution - weekend partying in college, starting to work Full time and unloading with drinking on weekends again, then testing the waters with weekday drinking after tough days/breakups/adult bullshit, to mid twenties drinking 3-4 nights a week, now late twenties and the last year or two has gone to it being a rare exception that I donít drink on a given night, and weekends starting in the morning or afternoon after I skate or workout. Now being stuck at home itís become really obvious to me how this has evolved. Fortunately Iíve laid off the weed because it makes me anxious and this current time period already has me on edge. Iíve been sick the last three days which is really the only reason Iíve felt no need to drink. Itís hard for me to tell when something is a problem or not, since on the outside Iím a fairly high functioning adult.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on June 17, 2020, 03:07:36 PM
This quarantine period has made me realize drinking has become my default way of spending time when Iím not working. It feels like itís been a gradual evolution - weekend partying in college, starting to work Full time and unloading with drinking on weekends again, then testing the waters with weekday drinking after tough days/breakups/adult bullshit, to mid twenties drinking 3-4 nights a week, now late twenties and the last year or two has gone to it being a rare exception that I donít drink on a given night, and weekends starting in the morning or afternoon after I skate or workout. Now being stuck at home itís become really obvious to me how this has evolved. Fortunately Iíve laid off the weed because it makes me anxious and this current time period already has me on edge. Iíve been sick the last three days which is really the only reason Iíve felt no need to drink. Itís hard for me to tell when something is a problem or not, since on the outside Iím a fairly high functioning adult.

yo homie. i stopped drinking 3 months and 20 days after i turned 30. I was spending about $200/wk, sometimes more buying booze for home, going out and subsequently buying some flaave to keep up. I got to the point where I couldn't get drunk until blackout. I come from a family where my grandmother had a beer fridge in the basement, my dad has a beer fridge. they're all hard working, functioning people, but everything is a fucking party. Going to the hardware store on saturday is an excuse for a road soda on the way and a stop at the bar on the way home. It's a hard ingrained habit. It's been almost 6 years now without booze and there's no going back.

I'm just saying this because it's really insidious, the way that alcohol can sneak up on you and infiltrate everything you do. I credit a pretty heavy DMT blastoff shortly after I stopped as a turning point in helping me maintain.

If you wanna stop, you've got it.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: NoComply180 on June 17, 2020, 03:42:53 PM
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This quarantine period has made me realize drinking has become my default way of spending time when Iím not working. It feels like itís been a gradual evolution - weekend partying in college, starting to work Full time and unloading with drinking on weekends again, then testing the waters with weekday drinking after tough days/breakups/adult bullshit, to mid twenties drinking 3-4 nights a week, now late twenties and the last year or two has gone to it being a rare exception that I donít drink on a given night, and weekends starting in the morning or afternoon after I skate or workout. Now being stuck at home itís become really obvious to me how this has evolved. Fortunately Iíve laid off the weed because it makes me anxious and this current time period already has me on edge. Iíve been sick the last three days which is really the only reason Iíve felt no need to drink. Itís hard for me to tell when something is a problem or not, since on the outside Iím a fairly high functioning adult.
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yo homie. i stopped drinking 3 months and 20 days after i turned 30. I was spending about $200/wk, sometimes more buying booze for home, going out and subsequently buying some flaave to keep up. I got to the point where I couldn't get drunk until blackout. I come from a family where my grandmother had a beer fridge in the basement, my dad has a beer fridge. they're all hard working, functioning people, but everything is a fucking party. Going to the hardware store on saturday is an excuse for a road soda on the way and a stop at the bar on the way home. It's a hard ingrained habit. It's been almost 6 years now without booze and there's no going back.

I'm just saying this because it's really insidious, the way that alcohol can sneak up on you and infiltrate everything you do. I credit a pretty heavy DMT blastoff shortly after I stopped as a turning point in helping me maintain.

If you wanna stop, you've got it.
thank you my man, I appreciate it. Yeah I realized sometimes even a trip to the liquor store I would have a drink before, then get a single beer or canned cocktail for the walk home with all the other booze in tow too. At this point it seems more like a habit than an addiction, so Iím going to try and change my behavior and daily patterns as opposed to going cold turkey to start. Weíll see.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on June 17, 2020, 04:06:16 PM
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This quarantine period has made me realize drinking has become my default way of spending time when Iím not working. It feels like itís been a gradual evolution - weekend partying in college, starting to work Full time and unloading with drinking on weekends again, then testing the waters with weekday drinking after tough days/breakups/adult bullshit, to mid twenties drinking 3-4 nights a week, now late twenties and the last year or two has gone to it being a rare exception that I donít drink on a given night, and weekends starting in the morning or afternoon after I skate or workout. Now being stuck at home itís become really obvious to me how this has evolved. Fortunately Iíve laid off the weed because it makes me anxious and this current time period already has me on edge. Iíve been sick the last three days which is really the only reason Iíve felt no need to drink. Itís hard for me to tell when something is a problem or not, since on the outside Iím a fairly high functioning adult.
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yo homie. i stopped drinking 3 months and 20 days after i turned 30. I was spending about $200/wk, sometimes more buying booze for home, going out and subsequently buying some flaave to keep up. I got to the point where I couldn't get drunk until blackout. I come from a family where my grandmother had a beer fridge in the basement, my dad has a beer fridge. they're all hard working, functioning people, but everything is a fucking party. Going to the hardware store on saturday is an excuse for a road soda on the way and a stop at the bar on the way home. It's a hard ingrained habit. It's been almost 6 years now without booze and there's no going back.

I'm just saying this because it's really insidious, the way that alcohol can sneak up on you and infiltrate everything you do. I credit a pretty heavy DMT blastoff shortly after I stopped as a turning point in helping me maintain.

If you wanna stop, you've got it.
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thank you my man, I appreciate it. Yeah I realized sometimes even a trip to the liquor store I would have a drink before, then get a single beer or canned cocktail for the walk home with all the other booze in tow too. At this point it seems more like a habit than an addiction, so Iím going to try and change my behavior and daily patterns as opposed to going cold turkey to start. Weíll see.

the habit is the hardest part. Summer time is still the most challenging for me. I get hit with moments where I think "aah, that's beer drinking time..." do whatcha gotta do, man!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Abyss1 on June 17, 2020, 04:27:25 PM
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This quarantine period has made me realize drinking has become my default way of spending time when Iím not working. It feels like itís been a gradual evolution - weekend partying in college, starting to work Full time and unloading with drinking on weekends again, then testing the waters with weekday drinking after tough days/breakups/adult bullshit, to mid twenties drinking 3-4 nights a week, now late twenties and the last year or two has gone to it being a rare exception that I donít drink on a given night, and weekends starting in the morning or afternoon after I skate or workout. Now being stuck at home itís become really obvious to me how this has evolved. Fortunately Iíve laid off the weed because it makes me anxious and this current time period already has me on edge. Iíve been sick the last three days which is really the only reason Iíve felt no need to drink. Itís hard for me to tell when something is a problem or not, since on the outside Iím a fairly high functioning adult.
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yo homie. i stopped drinking 3 months and 20 days after i turned 30. I was spending about $200/wk, sometimes more buying booze for home, going out and subsequently buying some flaave to keep up. I got to the point where I couldn't get drunk until blackout. I come from a family where my grandmother had a beer fridge in the basement, my dad has a beer fridge. they're all hard working, functioning people, but everything is a fucking party. Going to the hardware store on saturday is an excuse for a road soda on the way and a stop at the bar on the way home. It's a hard ingrained habit. It's been almost 6 years now without booze and there's no going back.

I'm just saying this because it's really insidious, the way that alcohol can sneak up on you and infiltrate everything you do. I credit a pretty heavy DMT blastoff shortly after I stopped as a turning point in helping me maintain.

If you wanna stop, you've got it.
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thank you my man, I appreciate it. Yeah I realized sometimes even a trip to the liquor store I would have a drink before, then get a single beer or canned cocktail for the walk home with all the other booze in tow too. At this point it seems more like a habit than an addiction, so Iím going to try and change my behavior and daily patterns as opposed to going cold turkey to start. Weíll see.
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the habit is the hardest part. Summer time is still the most challenging for me. I get hit with moments where I think "aah, that's beer drinking time..." do whatcha gotta do, man!

Yea thatís what I realized too...so I started creating new good habits only been sober for 6.5 months. I think every time I get bored I think about drinking or even watching a movie, got some jarittos Mexican soda in bottles and itís been working as a substitute
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on June 17, 2020, 04:34:41 PM
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This quarantine period has made me realize drinking has become my default way of spending time when Iím not working. It feels like itís been a gradual evolution - weekend partying in college, starting to work Full time and unloading with drinking on weekends again, then testing the waters with weekday drinking after tough days/breakups/adult bullshit, to mid twenties drinking 3-4 nights a week, now late twenties and the last year or two has gone to it being a rare exception that I donít drink on a given night, and weekends starting in the morning or afternoon after I skate or workout. Now being stuck at home itís become really obvious to me how this has evolved. Fortunately Iíve laid off the weed because it makes me anxious and this current time period already has me on edge. Iíve been sick the last three days which is really the only reason Iíve felt no need to drink. Itís hard for me to tell when something is a problem or not, since on the outside Iím a fairly high functioning adult.
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yo homie. i stopped drinking 3 months and 20 days after i turned 30. I was spending about $200/wk, sometimes more buying booze for home, going out and subsequently buying some flaave to keep up. I got to the point where I couldn't get drunk until blackout. I come from a family where my grandmother had a beer fridge in the basement, my dad has a beer fridge. they're all hard working, functioning people, but everything is a fucking party. Going to the hardware store on saturday is an excuse for a road soda on the way and a stop at the bar on the way home. It's a hard ingrained habit. It's been almost 6 years now without booze and there's no going back.

I'm just saying this because it's really insidious, the way that alcohol can sneak up on you and infiltrate everything you do. I credit a pretty heavy DMT blastoff shortly after I stopped as a turning point in helping me maintain.

If you wanna stop, you've got it.
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thank you my man, I appreciate it. Yeah I realized sometimes even a trip to the liquor store I would have a drink before, then get a single beer or canned cocktail for the walk home with all the other booze in tow too. At this point it seems more like a habit than an addiction, so Iím going to try and change my behavior and daily patterns as opposed to going cold turkey to start. Weíll see.
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the habit is the hardest part. Summer time is still the most challenging for me. I get hit with moments where I think "aah, that's beer drinking time..." do whatcha gotta do, man!
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Yea thatís what I realized too...so I started creating new good habits only been sober for 6.5 months. I think every time I get bored I think about drinking or even watching a movie, got some jarittos Mexican soda in bottles and itís been working as a substitute

hell ya man, 6.5 months is a long time when you're used to drinking everyday. I generally stick to water, but i'll go through spurts of drinking Lacroix. If I go to a cookout or something, I literally end up double fisting them to keep my hands occupied.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: theloniousmonk on June 17, 2020, 08:53:07 PM
I kept hearing about the idea of figuring out the issues that are making you drink, but I never knew what that meant, and I also never thought I had any issues.
One book really helped me sort through my problems that led me to drinking, and it is
Ask And It Is Given
By Esther and Jerry Hicks.
When you read it, you are going to feel positive.
You are all good people and I wish you well.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: iKobrakai on June 17, 2020, 09:39:06 PM
I kept hearing about the idea of figuring out the issues that are making you drink, but I never knew what that meant, and I also never thought I had any issues.
One book really helped me sort through my problems that led me to drinking, and it is
Ask And It Is Given
By Esther and Jerry Hicks.
When you read it, you are going to feel positive.
You are all good people and I wish you well.

By definition, if you're killing yourself with booze there has to be a problem. Regular people stop way before piling up charges, OD's and other shit.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: 50mm on June 17, 2020, 10:42:20 PM
Today marks a month without smoking. I always make it a month or several then get bored and smoke and Iím back to square one of being a total fucking burnout lazy fuck. Weed is terrible for me. I already lack motivation to do anything so when I smoke I pretty much just sit on the sidelines as life passes me by. This time though, I wasnít hiding I was smoking or that I was quitting or that I needed support from my girlfriend. Sheís the shit and is very much understanding that Iím an adult and can do what I want, doesnít tell me to stop but will be on my ass making sure Iím not smoking if I ask her to be, which I did. When I smoke vs when I donít is night and day personality wise and just being able to do basic shit like my job. I wish I could moderate like most but for some reason weed is the only substance that has really had a negative impact on my life and for myself personally is crazy addictive. Shalom. 
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on June 18, 2020, 09:51:31 AM
Flying Rodent and NoComply 180,
I've been sober for close to ten years. It was incredibly difficult for me to stop using drugs and alcohol and I needed a lot of help from other people (I still do) and that was almost as terrifying as the idea of getting through the days without substances. Please feel free to message me if you want to ask me any questions about recovery. I'm not any kind of authority on anything but I can definitely share what resources worked for me or I can just listen. No judgement.
PS this is a dope thread.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: NoComply180 on June 18, 2020, 09:54:52 AM
Flying Rodent and NoComply 180,
I've been sober for close to ten years. It was incredibly difficult for me to stop using drugs and alcohol and I needed a lot of help from other people (I still do) and that was almost as terrifying as the idea of getting through the days without substances. Please feel free to message me if you want to ask me any questions about recovery. I'm not any kind of authority on anything but I can definitely share what resources worked for me or I can just listen. No judgement.
PS this is a dope thread.
thank you, that means a lot. Yeah I canít imagine asking real people in my life for help, or even just letting them know that I have problem. If I even do. Writing about it on an anonymous skateboarding forum was hard enough.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: peptobismol on August 02, 2020, 03:15:02 PM
i am struggling with alcohol and am trying to slow it down, yet i somehow find myself drinking every single night until i either pass out or run out of alcohol. i recently rolled my ankle(skating while high) so now i feel like now i have nothing else to do other than drink. i have been able to get my weed consumption down and eventually i plan on phasing it out completely, however the alcohol seems to be much more difficult to kick. i am a recovering addict to begin with, having been hooked on opiates but i managed to kick that habit. that was 11 years ago. i also had a love affair with cocaine but i managed to kick that, too. the alcohol, i think because it is so widely accepted in society, it makes it much more difficult to stop. for the past month or so, i have had a lot of trouble keeping alcohol down and it has been making me gag so i know that my body is rejecting it but i still drink, regardless. i also have been having panic attacks much like how marc johnson described in some interview where he was struggling with alcohol and then had an onset panic attack where the lingering feeling of imminent doom was right around the corner. i do not have any DUIs nor do i plan on getting any. i have had many close calls, though.

tl;dr
i dont have any questions, really just venting i guess.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Dracula on August 02, 2020, 08:39:25 PM
I turned into a huge pile when quarantine started and was drinking almost every night. Last month I joined my friend on only drinking on weekends and thankfully itís been pretty easy. I just drink a shit ton of sparking waters during the week
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on August 02, 2020, 09:27:54 PM
i am struggling with alcohol and am trying to slow it down, yet i somehow find myself drinking every single night until i either pass out or run out of alcohol. i recently rolled my ankle(skating while high) so now i feel like now i have nothing else to do other than drink. i have been able to get my weed consumption down and eventually i plan on phasing it out completely, however the alcohol seems to be much more difficult to kick. i am a recovering addict to begin with, having been hooked on opiates but i managed to kick that habit. that was 11 years ago. i also had a love affair with cocaine but i managed to kick that, too. the alcohol, i think because it is so widely accepted in society, it makes it much more difficult to stop. for the past month or so, i have had a lot of trouble keeping alcohol down and it has been making me gag so i know that my body is rejecting it but i still drink, regardless. i also have been having panic attacks much like how marc johnson described in some interview where he was struggling with alcohol and then had an onset panic attack where the lingering feeling of imminent doom was right around the corner. i do not have any DUIs nor do i plan on getting any. i have had many close calls, though.

tl;dr
i dont have any questions, really just venting i guess.

yo homie, even though you don't have questions, I'm gonna say that it's a hard road to hoe. You kicked opes, you're off the blow- so you can do it.
 I hope the panic attacks get better. Shit sucks. Do yourself a solid and stay the fuck away from benzos. that will be the worst to kick, hands down. If you have a doctor, ask about clonidine and/or hydroxyzine. They're non narcotic, don't get you high, and are respectively blood pressure and antihistamine medications that can be used to kick heavy benzo issues but are also really, really effective for panic attacks if you don't want to go the benzo route. Over the past 2 months I have taken ashwaganda supplement every day and my stress/anxiety levels are the best they've been in a long while. Ashwaganda is an adaptogen, meaning it builds up over time to help you adrenal system return to baseline. Gaia brand makes a really quality product.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: AlexOlsonsDashiki on August 03, 2020, 07:37:45 AM
If anyone is struggling with alcohol or drug use please send me a PM. I am always open to listen. I have been sober for 2 and a half years. 

I recently found my old Slap account and through the posts I saw what I looked like when I was fucked up and jesus christ was it abysmal.

I do AA although I have a problem with crack and heroin as well. Im not here to convince anyone they need AA or a 12 step program, I am just happy to listen. Please reach out.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: AlexOlsonsDashiki on August 03, 2020, 07:41:09 AM
also to the people questioning if AA will laugh at you for only drinking on the weekends, the answer is no.

"the only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking"
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: brycickle on August 07, 2020, 01:51:39 PM
it's a hard road to hoe.
Row.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: peptobismol on August 15, 2020, 02:05:15 PM
an unsolicited update:
havent slowed down with alcohol but at least it doesnt make me gag anymore.....at the present moment. ive been off weed for a few days and i havent had any panic attacks since, that might have been the cause. still cant skate, though. i tried rolling around in the garage on my mickey mouse board yesterday(see set-up thread & worst set up thread), hit a twig and it agitated my ankle so thats a bummer. ive been trying to strengthen my core and ankle in between beers as well as smashing through duolingo so at least thats a plus.
not really interested in talking directly to pals, im tired of hearing the same generic stuff. no offense or anything and i do appreciate those reaching out but all that i want is to put my thoughts out and throw it into the internet abyss.

and no, i have not been driving while drunk. i like to practice good harm reduction.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: drewsmahgoos on October 20, 2020, 04:31:22 AM
don't really know where else to ask as one of my only friends is right next to me going through the same shit. I got hooked on fent. I'm not proud of it. Honestly totally ashamed. I lived a junky's dream for the last year. No work, no responsibilities or bills. Just blasted through all the money I have and my best friend has. Sold everything I could easily sell. Now I'm broke and kicking. I spent over 30k this year on drugs alone. Fent WD's are the worst thing I've ever experienced. I'm just happy I'm not kicking in prison or something. Anyway, can someone reach out and just chat with me? I'm really genuinely trying not to go out and use again. Doing everything I can including throwing out my dignity by reaching out to people on here.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Telly on October 20, 2020, 05:46:55 AM
don't really know where else to ask as one of my only friends is right next to me going through the same shit. I got hooked on fent. I'm not proud of it. Honestly totally ashamed. I lived a junky's dream for the last year. No work, no responsibilities or bills. Just blasted through all the money I have and my best friend has. Sold everything I could easily sell. Now I'm broke and kicking. I spent over 30k this year on drugs alone. Fent WD's are the worst thing I've ever experienced. I'm just happy I'm not kicking in prison or something. Anyway, can someone reach out and just chat with me? I'm really genuinely trying not to go out and use again. Doing everything I can including throwing out my dignity by reaching out to people on here.

Iím at work for the next 8 hours but can chat via pm until then and can talk after if you need someone.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Sleazy on October 20, 2020, 06:14:18 AM
haven't posted in ages. i've been off and on again with my program of drinking mostly on the weekends. didn't drink last night which felt good and usually once i get one day started during a week i make it too the weekend without drinking.

Today marks a month without smoking. I always make it a month or several then get bored and smoke and Iím back to square one of being a total fucking burnout lazy fuck. Weed is terrible for me. I already lack motivation to do anything so when I smoke I pretty much just sit on the sidelines as life passes me by. This time though, I wasnít hiding I was smoking or that I was quitting or that I needed support from my girlfriend. Sheís the shit and is very much understanding that Iím an adult and can do what I want, doesnít tell me to stop but will be on my ass making sure Iím not smoking if I ask her to be, which I did. When I smoke vs when I donít is night and day personality wise and just being able to do basic shit like my job. I wish I could moderate like most but for some reason weed is the only substance that has really had a negative impact on my life and for myself personally is crazy addictive. Shalom.

50mm i can share that for me weed was crazy addictive and really holding me back a ton. it was so hard to quit about 7 years back but i don't look back at all now. it was making me anti-social, a bit grouchy and had me hitting way below my potential when it came to getting shit done. i'd encourage you to keep pushing. if you feel it's a problem and you've got a good girl you are set for success.

note i smoke a cigar now and then to get a mellow fade and it scratches that same itch. on the weekends i'll put a show on my ipod and smoke a nice cigar to mellow out a bit.



Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: drewsmahgoos on October 20, 2020, 06:28:46 AM
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don't really know where else to ask as one of my only friends is right next to me going through the same shit. I got hooked on fent. I'm not proud of it. Honestly totally ashamed. I lived a junky's dream for the last year. No work, no responsibilities or bills. Just blasted through all the money I have and my best friend has. Sold everything I could easily sell. Now I'm broke and kicking. I spent over 30k this year on drugs alone. Fent WD's are the worst thing I've ever experienced. I'm just happy I'm not kicking in prison or something. Anyway, can someone reach out and just chat with me? I'm really genuinely trying not to go out and use again. Doing everything I can including throwing out my dignity by reaching out to people on here.
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Iím at work for the next 8 hours but can chat via pm until then and can talk after if you need someone.

That seriously helps dude, I need all the help I can get right now and I really appreciate it.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: pugmaster on March 23, 2021, 07:23:30 PM
I'm on day 15 of no booze, which is the longest I've gone in a decade. I have more mental clarity, but am still really tired feeling still. Has anyone else had that? I thought it would be gone by now.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on March 23, 2021, 08:16:20 PM
I'm on day 15 of no booze, which is the longest I've gone in a decade. I have more mental clarity, but am still really tired feeling still. Has anyone else had that? I thought it would be gone by now.

Yooooo my G. Big ups. 15 days is a long frickin time, especially when you've been boozing for a decade. Prior to quitting in 2015, I only got that far a 2 or 3 times before I'd get back at it. It's great that you're realizing the reason for still feeling tired is related to getting off the sauce, rather than chalking it up to something else. It's going to take a while to get to that baseline you might have been at 10 years ago, but it's not insurmountable and will come faster than you expect. Things will gradually pick up and improve. you've got to remember that your body/brain are used to having a regular infusion of a depressant/sugars/carbs and is working overtime to regain a different sort of independent function. I don't know you as an individual, but as a human, you're resilient and can soon enough overcome the sense of dragging ass. I'm not speaking with medical knowledge, but whenever coming off of a toxic substance that has been habitually used/misused, it helps me to see the body/mind as being in shock and requiring more care than might normally be given. Supplements, clean eating, water, exercise will help your body/mind get to where they need to be.

you got this shit, homie.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Betaphenylethylalamine on March 23, 2021, 09:53:02 PM
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I'm on day 15 of no booze, which is the longest I've gone in a decade. I have more mental clarity, but am still really tired feeling still. Has anyone else had that? I thought it would be gone by now.
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Yooooo my G. Big ups. 15 days is a long frickin time, especially when you've been boozing for a decade. Prior to quitting in 2015, I only got that far a 2 or 3 times before I'd get back at it. It's great that you're realizing the reason for still feeling tired is related to getting off the sauce, rather than chalking it up to something else. It's going to take a while to get to that baseline you might have been at 10 years ago, but it's not insurmountable and will come faster than you expect. Things will gradually pick up and improve. you've got to remember that your body/brain are used to having a regular infusion of a depressant/sugars/carbs and is working overtime to regain a different sort of independent function. I don't know you as an individual, but as a human, you're resilient and can soon enough overcome the sense of dragging ass. I'm not speaking with medical knowledge, but whenever coming off of a toxic substance that has been habitually used/misused, it helps me to see the body/mind as being in shock and requiring more care than might normally be given. Supplements, clean eating, water, exercise will help your body/mind get to where they need to be.

you got this shit, homie.

This....

Fucking congrats man! Get lots of healthy fats/liquids into the body and excercises as you can.

Stoked for you man!!!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: iKobrakai on March 23, 2021, 11:25:39 PM
Keep going, my bro!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Bizarro Jerry on March 24, 2021, 04:46:13 AM
After 12 weeks of no alcohol I thought I would try to have a couple on my birthday the other day. Got six pack of stella and could barely even finish one. Hated the way it made me feel. I got so used to being in control of my body that even the slight buzz I got felt so invasive and uncomfortable. Kinda feel annoyed I broke sobriety, but at the same time it helped me solidify that being sober is 100% for me. I've still saved over $750+ dollars over the past three months, and over 300 hours of drinking. Enough money to buy a yamaha keyboard and start to teach myself how to play piano. Proud of all y'all on here, keep it up guys.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: ilovegay on March 24, 2021, 05:11:46 PM
Iíve been sober just over 9 months. I actually think I have Covid to thank. I went on a bender celebrating my wifeís birthday, and then got the sickest Iíve ever been for two weeks. I think it was Covid, but the test came back negative. Definitely the best decision I ever made. 1 was too many, 100 wasnít enough.

It is very nice to wake up every day feeling great with tons of energy and no regrets. I have saved a ton of money. Iím also definitely in the best shape of my life, and skating better than I ever have at age 33.

Shalom to any pals out there trying to be clean. Itís not easy. I definitely said I was going to stop drinking 100s of times. You will not regret it though when you finally make that decision for yourself.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Abyss1 on March 24, 2021, 05:21:42 PM
Shalom thread

in 2020 I spend 8 months sober and had to move, i caved in after I moved due to the stress of moving and exhaustion, and last 4 month I had a 6 pack a night.  first week was fun, the rest was whack and expensive, honestly just felt like shit everytime I drank and Got to the point where every beer I drank was gross.

Had to clean back up this year and been sober since Jan1.   
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: jtrpma on March 24, 2021, 05:52:36 PM
Shalom thread

in 2020 I spend 8 months sober and had to move, i caved in after I moved due to the stress of moving and exhaustion, and last 4 month I had a 6 pack a night.  first week was fun, the rest was whack and expensive, honestly just felt like shit everytime I drank and Got to the point where every beer I drank was gross.

Had to clean back up this year and been sober since Jan1.

Stoked you resobered up. Just try to remember how shitty you felt when tempted in the future.

I am at two years dry now and couldnĎt imagine having a casual drink...
Even managed to phase out weed completely, I bought a bunch of cbd and it was just not worth smoking it because it didnít do anything. So I am really stoked on that, didnĎt think that would happen like this.

Shout out to all the sober and all the not sober pals, I love that this thread is out here.
Shalom & Friede
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on March 24, 2021, 07:06:29 PM
any of y'all familiar with the founder of AA, Bill Wilson? He had a profound experience on Belladonna and/or henbane I believe, which helped him quit drinking by having a profound spiritual experience. He then took LSD, with some frequency, and got into correspondence with Carl Jung, to whom he expressed the belief that LSD could be part of the 12 steps, an introduction to that higher power or something greater.

Now, I'm not advocating for anyone to go get puddled, I will however, say that I know many addicts who have kicked some gnarly, long time habits of heroin, crack, meth, and booze, by using psychedelics. I partially credit a DMT experience during my first month sober from alcohol with helping move forward on the path. Little bit of L every now and again, in a comfortable, controlled setting with such an intention has done the same for many.

Again, I'm not advocating for anything, and y'all know your mental health status better than anyone else, but it's something to consider.

Stay strong n safe homies
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: AlexOlsonsDashiki on April 11, 2021, 03:10:41 PM
any of y'all familiar with the founder of AA, Bill Wilson? He had a profound experience on Belladonna and/or henbane I believe, which helped him quit drinking by having a profound spiritual experience. He then took LSD, with some frequency, and got into correspondence with Carl Jung, to whom he expressed the belief that LSD could be part of the 12 steps, an introduction to that higher power or something greater.

Now, I'm not advocating for anyone to go get puddled, I will however, say that I know many addicts who have kicked some gnarly, long time habits of heroin, crack, meth, and booze, by using psychedelics. I partially credit a DMT experience during my first month sober from alcohol with helping move forward on the path. Little bit of L every now and again, in a comfortable, controlled setting with such an intention has done the same for many.

Again, I'm not advocating for anything, and y'all know your mental health status better than anyone else, but it's something to consider.

Stay strong n safe homies

Bill Wilson is a polarizing character. On his deathbed he asked for a drink. Not saying not to do LSD, but I havent in the 3 years ive been sober

My fiance/mother of my child left me to be with her boss on Friday. Im pretty fucked up over it. I have a lot of fear and anger and sadness and hurt. I didnt drink. Ive been on the phone with sober men pretty much hourly for the last 48 hours. I went to meetings. I wrote inventory. I dont think Im going to drink or smoke crack over this today.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Algar on April 11, 2021, 06:51:22 PM
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any of y'all familiar with the founder of AA, Bill Wilson? He had a profound experience on Belladonna and/or henbane I believe, which helped him quit drinking by having a profound spiritual experience. He then took LSD, with some frequency, and got into correspondence with Carl Jung, to whom he expressed the belief that LSD could be part of the 12 steps, an introduction to that higher power or something greater.

Now, I'm not advocating for anyone to go get puddled, I will however, say that I know many addicts who have kicked some gnarly, long time habits of heroin, crack, meth, and booze, by using psychedelics. I partially credit a DMT experience during my first month sober from alcohol with helping move forward on the path. Little bit of L every now and again, in a comfortable, controlled setting with such an intention has done the same for many.

Again, I'm not advocating for anything, and y'all know your mental health status better than anyone else, but it's something to consider.

Stay strong n safe homies
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Bill Wilson is a polarizing character. On his deathbed he asked for a drink. Not saying not to do LSD, but I havent in the 3 years ive been sober

My fiance/mother of my child left me to be with her boss on Friday. Im pretty fucked up over it. I have a lot of fear and anger and sadness and hurt. I didnt drink. Ive been on the phone with sober men pretty much hourly for the last 48 hours. I went to meetings. I wrote inventory. I dont think Im going to drink or smoke crack over this today.

Dang man, sorry to hear about that, Iím rooting for you!  It seems reaching out like you have been is a good way to deal with it all.

I have been trying to kick the booze for the last year or two,  had a few streaks of over a month or two of sobriety and am on about two weeks at this point.  I just have a hard time not drinking daily and pretty much drink at least a sixer of ipaís daily.  Pretty much feel hungover daily and then once I feel ok in the afternoon I start to think about drinking again and then I am drinking, it just takes over my brain completely.  Iím functional for the most part but it definitely fucks with my mental health, between crazy anxiety or just pure self loathing.

When I am sober though it can be really hard but also I feel so fucking good, itís amazing, and I think someday it will stick but It feels not possible at the same time

Shalom to you all
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: pugmaster on April 11, 2021, 07:44:38 PM
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any of y'all familiar with the founder of AA, Bill Wilson? He had a profound experience on Belladonna and/or henbane I believe, which helped him quit drinking by having a profound spiritual experience. He then took LSD, with some frequency, and got into correspondence with Carl Jung, to whom he expressed the belief that LSD could be part of the 12 steps, an introduction to that higher power or something greater.

Now, I'm not advocating for anyone to go get puddled, I will however, say that I know many addicts who have kicked some gnarly, long time habits of heroin, crack, meth, and booze, by using psychedelics. I partially credit a DMT experience during my first month sober from alcohol with helping move forward on the path. Little bit of L every now and again, in a comfortable, controlled setting with such an intention has done the same for many.

Again, I'm not advocating for anything, and y'all know your mental health status better than anyone else, but it's something to consider.

Stay strong n safe homies
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Bill Wilson is a polarizing character. On his deathbed he asked for a drink. Not saying not to do LSD, but I havent in the 3 years ive been sober

My fiance/mother of my child left me to be with her boss on Friday. Im pretty fucked up over it. I have a lot of fear and anger and sadness and hurt. I didnt drink. Ive been on the phone with sober men pretty much hourly for the last 48 hours. I went to meetings. I wrote inventory. I dont think Im going to drink or smoke crack over this today.

That absolutely sucks man.  Definitely don't go the destructive route.  The best revenge is success.  Use this as an opportunity to take inventory of the various areas of your life that you want to make gains in and focus on that.  For example, even if it is something as simple as earning more money and working longer hours, you will be too busy to dwell on BS.

My dad has been married about 3 times and that was basically the advice he gave me about how to handle a nasty breakup.  He is a really nice guy too, not a meathead scumbag.  SLAP is comprised of a variety of individuals who have unique experiences.  And yet, I am confident that there are many who have experienced a very similar type of situation as yourself.  So, you are not alone in that regard.   

Dude, FUCK alcohol, but DOUBLE FUCK crack. 

FTS. You are going to thrive in this time of adversity and in time give your child the step mother they deserve. A step mother that your ex absolutely hates because she is better than her in every way, shape, and form. 

Nothing wrong with 2 tylenol PM to go to sleep early, in turn wake up early, and get/stay productive.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: iKobrakai on April 11, 2021, 10:13:14 PM
Had 8 years on the 8:th.

To my squad; keep going.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: AlexOlsonsDashiki on April 12, 2021, 03:35:34 AM
@pugmaster @algar thanks for the kind words.

Yesterday was okay towards the end of the day, waking up today was hard. The whole situation feels complicated but broken down in itís simplest terms is she doesnít feel she will be happy with me long term, and the family I wanted for my daughter isnít going to happen.

I donít wish ill will towards my ex. Not right now. I want her to be feeling what I feel, but thatís because I feel alone. Lots of sober men told me this pain is necessary though and unfortunately Iím going to have to feel it. That doesnít make it right/fair/easy. Itís just the fact of the matter.

Iím staying at our old place right now with my daughter but will probably be the one to move out. I would like to say I can stay here but I donít know. We are trying to keep custody and stuff out of the courts. I donít want any parent resentful at the other. I really want to come out of this a better person. I really want to make it through this to know I can.

Iím rambling at this point. Iím just hurting. Thank you for your responses.

@algar letís talk sometime. Iíd love to share my experience getting sober with you. Itís possible to get sober. Itís possible to stay sober. You let me know when youíre ready to hear it, and Iím here to listen to you as well. No judgement, no expectations on my end. Just offering to you what someone offered to me when I was in your position
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Post by: IusedToSkateMore on April 12, 2021, 12:22:54 PM
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any of y'all familiar with the founder of AA, Bill Wilson? He had a profound experience on Belladonna and/or henbane I believe, which helped him quit drinking by having a profound spiritual experience. He then took LSD, with some frequency, and got into correspondence with Carl Jung, to whom he expressed the belief that LSD could be part of the 12 steps, an introduction to that higher power or something greater.

Now, I'm not advocating for anyone to go get puddled, I will however, say that I know many addicts who have kicked some gnarly, long time habits of heroin, crack, meth, and booze, by using psychedelics. I partially credit a DMT experience during my first month sober from alcohol with helping move forward on the path. Little bit of L every now and again, in a comfortable, controlled setting with such an intention has done the same for many.

Again, I'm not advocating for anything, and y'all know your mental health status better than anyone else, but it's something to consider.

Stay strong n safe homies
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Bill Wilson is a polarizing character. On his deathbed he asked for a drink. Not saying not to do LSD, but I havent in the 3 years ive been sober

My fiance/mother of my child left me to be with her boss on Friday. Im pretty fucked up over it. I have a lot of fear and anger and sadness and hurt. I didnt drink. Ive been on the phone with sober men pretty much hourly for the last 48 hours. I went to meetings. I wrote inventory. I dont think Im going to drink or smoke crack over this today.
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Dang man, sorry to hear about that, Iím rooting for you!  It seems reaching out like you have been is a good way to deal with it all.

I have been trying to kick the booze for the last year or two,  had a few streaks of over a month or two of sobriety and am on about two weeks at this point.  I just have a hard time not drinking daily and pretty much drink at least a sixer of ipaís daily.  Pretty much feel hungover daily and then once I feel ok in the afternoon I start to think about drinking again and then I am drinking, it just takes over my brain completely.  Iím functional for the most part but it definitely fucks with my mental health, between crazy anxiety or just pure self loathing.

When I am sober though it can be really hard but also I feel so fucking good, itís amazing, and I think someday it will stick but It feels not possible at the same time

Shalom to you all

yo my G, that's pretty much how I was rolling when I stopped boozing 6 years ago. Get out of work, stop for a beer or 2, stop at packy to grab a 6 (I was drinking Racer 5 IPA 7.5 ABV), drink a few, walk to the local dive, have a couple more and a shot, talk to the drunk old Irish immigrant house painters, go home, crack another IPA and pass out after a few slugs. Wake up, go to work, etc. This was Monday thru Wednesday. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, I'd generally go stay with some friends who lived in a beach house year round and rip it up 12 ways til Sunday, doing all sorts of shit. Other than Sundays, I never felt hung over for too long because I'd start drinking again. I was functioning highly- getting promoted, entrusted with a lot of shit, etc, but I wasn't anywhere near my best. My body always hurt and I was really too fucked and staying busy getting fucked to get anxious or anything. I looked like I was in pretty good shape, but I was 29/30 and my body felt awful. It took me a long time to get there, but it worked out. if you're tryna do it, you can!!!

You can already see my posts about self therapy with psychedelics (and if you look on clinicaltrials.gov, there's sign ups for psilocybin therapy trials for alcoholism and/or depression) but that might not be for everyone at this juncture. I will say however, what was most helpful for me was keeping track of how many days I wasn't drinking. I made a calendar/chart of sorts where I checked a box everyday that I didn't drink and wrote a note about something that happened. Did that for the first 40ish days and it was huge. still got it stashed away.

take care, my friend.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: El Fapinator on April 13, 2021, 06:28:38 AM
I fucking hate myself for not drinking and it sucks because I'm at a low point and anything sound's good butttttttttt I just can't bring myself to do anything or buy something.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Sonny Paluso on April 14, 2021, 10:18:48 AM
 I'm at 15 weeks and change no drinking. 48 and have basically been a consistent beer drinker since 17/18. 48 now. Feel great. Lot of energy and way more positive mental outlook. Don't think I'll ever go back.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on April 14, 2021, 10:22:30 AM
I'm at 15 weeks and change no drinking. 48 and have basically been a consistent beer drinker since 17/18. 48 now. Feel great. Lot of energy and way more positive mental outlook. Don't think I'll ever go back.

 ;D

keep that PMA brotha!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Sonny Paluso on April 14, 2021, 10:46:46 AM
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I'm at 15 weeks and change no drinking. 48 and have basically been a consistent beer drinker since 17/18. 48 now. Feel great. Lot of energy and way more positive mental outlook. Don't think I'll ever go back.
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 ;D

keep that PMA brotha!

Thank you, I will. Beneficial to family life and my health. Wish I would have done this 20 years ago.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Dirk_Diggler on April 23, 2021, 12:14:32 PM
Hey yíall

I know some of you have seen my thread ď3 months alcohol freeĒ and my experience trying to stay sober, but that was before I knew this thread existed, so I will be posting here about it from now on.

Long story short- Stopped drinking for almost 5 months, relapsed pretty hard last weekend, and now Iím back on the wagon again.

Hope everyone here is doing well and stay strong.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Mongey on April 25, 2021, 08:10:22 PM
Just read through pretty much this whole thread.

 I turn 47 next week. Always have drank mid to heavy since I was 17. Have good job , young kids , house , wife and all that but just starting to feel like I need to step away from the booze. I take care of all my shit but those 4 to 6 beers at the end of the day Are always a constant. With a few more On weekends.

Itís to a point whereís not drinking seems kind of an exciting change , but fucking hard to break 30 years worth of habits.

About to start a 12 week eating thing with the wife. She is trying to get healthier after
Our 2nd kid . So Iím gonna try my hardest to stay off For 12 weeks and see what happens.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Idk on April 26, 2021, 11:21:15 AM
I go through periods where I donít drink. 3 months or so where I wonít drink or buy myself alcohol. Iíll be honest a big reason is because beer just makes me fat eventually. Bloats me up.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on April 26, 2021, 11:33:06 AM
Just read through pretty much this whole thread.

 I turn 47 next week. Always have drank mid to heavy since I was 17. Have good job , young kids , house , wife and all that but just starting to feel like I need to step away from the booze. I take care of all my shit but those 4 to 6 beers at the end of the day Are always a constant. With a few more On weekends.

Itís to a point whereís not drinking seems kind of an exciting change , but fucking hard to break 30 years worth of habits.

About to start a 12 week eating thing with the wife. She is trying to get healthier after
Our 2nd kid . So Iím gonna try my hardest to stay off For 12 weeks and see what happens.

you can do it man. if you drink canned beer, have canned soda water or something to replace it. I used to have to crush those during the first few years. Still do when I visit my family and my pop is drinking beers all day.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Mongey on April 26, 2021, 12:26:33 PM
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Just read through pretty much this whole thread.

 I turn 47 next week. Always have drank mid to heavy since I was 17. Have good job , young kids , house , wife and all that but just starting to feel like I need to step away from the booze. I take care of all my shit but those 4 to 6 beers at the end of the day Are always a constant. With a few more On weekends.

Itís to a point whereís not drinking seems kind of an exciting change , but fucking hard to break 30 years worth of habits.

About to start a 12 week eating thing with the wife. She is trying to get healthier after
Our 2nd kid . So Iím gonna try my hardest to stay off For 12 weeks and see what happens.
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you can do it man. if you drink canned beer, have canned soda water or something to replace it. I used to have to crush those during the first few years. Still do when I visit my family and my pop is drinking beers all day.

Thanks for the words dude.

I also brew my own beer as a Hobby so itís something that has turned into a big part of my life.

Feeling pretty resolved though to give this 12 weeks a real shot. Have thought about trying some alcohol free beer but not sure that will help in the early days. Think itís better for me to just drop it all.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on April 26, 2021, 01:15:03 PM
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Just read through pretty much this whole thread.

 I turn 47 next week. Always have drank mid to heavy since I was 17. Have good job , young kids , house , wife and all that but just starting to feel like I need to step away from the booze. I take care of all my shit but those 4 to 6 beers at the end of the day Are always a constant. With a few more On weekends.

Itís to a point whereís not drinking seems kind of an exciting change , but fucking hard to break 30 years worth of habits.

About to start a 12 week eating thing with the wife. She is trying to get healthier after
Our 2nd kid . So Iím gonna try my hardest to stay off For 12 weeks and see what happens.
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you can do it man. if you drink canned beer, have canned soda water or something to replace it. I used to have to crush those during the first few years. Still do when I visit my family and my pop is drinking beers all day.
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Thanks for the words dude.

I also brew my own beer as a Hobby so itís something that has turned into a big part of my life.

Feeling pretty resolved though to give this 12 weeks a real shot. Have thought about trying some alcohol free beer but not sure that will help in the early days. Think itís better for me to just drop it all.

aw man, that's a gnarly splitting of interests. I used to brew with my uncle sometimes and really couldn't imagine doing it and not drinking the product. I am going to try to grow some hops vines this year so I can make hop tea and stuff, but I couldn't have done it at an earlier juncture.

If you and I are anything alike, you're going the easier route by dropping it all. I never really got the point of non-alcoholic beer but there are some good carbonated hop teas out there made by hop lark. Doesn't really do the trick of an IPA but the chamomile one is pretty nice as chamomile and hops make a mild relaxant.

good luck again. man!!!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Huell Howser on April 26, 2021, 05:19:44 PM
big ups to everyone in here!

I haven't drank in a little over a month and I have been feeling much more consistently happy(following through with more plans I make, more productive, feel 100% more patient, skating/surfing a few times a week, etc). I don't have any specific time frame/goal set for myself but I am just going to keep it up for as long as I can or feel its right



Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Bizarro Jerry on April 27, 2021, 04:05:51 AM
I'm creeping up on 4 months sober in a couple days here. I did have one stella on my birthday last month, sort of just testing out if I even liked alcohol anymore. Nope, can't believe how uncomfortable even one made me feel. Feels insane I used to drink 7% ipas on weekdays.

Besides feeling generally more happy, clear headed, and finally sleeping good for the first time in 5 ish years, I can't believe the amount of money I've been saving. According to this "I am Sober" app, I've saved at lesat $1,100 bucks since new years.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Eggie Vedder on April 27, 2021, 06:32:21 AM
I was never a drinker but I was addicted to OxyContin for about 4 years. A friend introduced me to LSD and without even thinking about it I slowly stopped oxy and mainly did acid. After about two years I had a bit of a breakthrough trip. Itís kind of a stereotype but I feel like the trip permanently changed my brain or something. I was still occasionally doing coke or molly at parties and trying whatever but after the breakthrough trip I felt like a light switched turned off my desire. Itís been 5 years and I feel a thousand times better than I did when I was piling out. I still get turned off how people make psychedelics a religion but I do think scientifically it can help with addiction or certain mental illness. It definitely isnít the right answer for everyone but for anyone out there that feels like they keep relapsing i think itís worth a try. Just start with small doses.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on April 27, 2021, 10:49:56 AM
I was never a drinker but I was addicted to OxyContin for about 4 years. A friend introduced me to LSD and without even thinking about it I slowly stopped oxy and mainly did acid. After about two years I had a bit of a breakthrough trip. Itís kind of a stereotype but I feel like the trip permanently changed my brain or something. I was still occasionally doing coke or molly at parties and trying whatever but after the breakthrough trip I felt like a light switched turned off my desire. Itís been 5 years and I feel a thousand times better than I did when I was piling out. I still get turned off how people make psychedelics a religion but I do think scientifically it can help with addiction or certain mental illness. It definitely isnít the right answer for everyone but for anyone out there that feels like they keep relapsing i think itís worth a try. Just start with small doses.

hell yeah, brother. DMT was the break through for me and occasional trips help maintain that shift. I'm stoked to continue hearing about and meeting people who get off the dope through tripping. stay safe homie!
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Coldpizza on April 28, 2021, 02:57:46 PM
So Iíve been off drugs for years now, and stopped smoking weed about a year ago. Iíve been trying to stop drinking, but itís so fucking hard. I truly thought weed would be harderÖ Iíve got a great job, happy wife, and donít drink enough in a sitting to be smashed, but I definitely drink every day and have a problem with it. The habit is just so hard to kick and the fear/anxiety I feel is mentally fucking with me. Any tips would be welcome. My birthday is the end of May, and the best gift I can think of is being soberÖ thanks yíall.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on April 28, 2021, 04:05:57 PM
So Iíve been off drugs for years now, and stopped smoking weed about a year ago. Iíve been trying to stop drinking, but itís so fucking hard. I truly thought weed would be harderÖ Iíve got a great job, happy wife, and donít drink enough in a sitting to be smashed, but I definitely drink every day and have a problem with it. The habit is just so hard to kick and the fear/anxiety I feel is mentally fucking with me. Any tips would be welcome. My birthday is the end of May, and the best gift I can think of is being soberÖ thanks yíall.

hey! another gemini trying to quit drinking. I know a lot of us  :o

do you have any coping skills other than drinking that can help with the anxiety? it's a strange sword, right? the whole having anxiety about not drinking and drinking because we have some sort of anxiety about living and having to deal with the anxiety that we've blunted through drinking? find something physical to do, if you can do physical stuff. run. it kicks your ass. exercise to the point of exhaustion. do something that you don't correlate with drinking. Like me, I used to drink all the time unless I was doing yoga or meditating, so I really kicked those up into high gear. I mean, I'd stash beers in the bag for bike ride, when I was skating, when I was on a hike, when I was going to the hardware store, hanging with my family, blah blah blah, everything was an excuse to low key have a beer. So, I tried to do new stuff, like work on my car, build things, etc and it took a while to truly embrace the new stuff, it was worth it. Now I'm also able to do all the old stuff that I once drank while doing, without wanting to drink.

Also, setting a goal can be really really helpful. I started out gunning for 30days, made a hand drawn "days without drinking" calendar, and checked that off every day. Then I made another one, and another one, keeping notes about what I did "went on walk to... built this..." I eventually started adding "days without drinking, 30 pushups, run 1 mile, pull ups, etc" and it turned into a new sorta lifestyle.

you can do this homie
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Mongey on April 28, 2021, 05:56:15 PM
So Iíve been off drugs for years now, and stopped smoking weed about a year ago. Iíve been trying to stop drinking, but itís so fucking hard. I truly thought weed would be harderÖ Iíve got a great job, happy wife, and donít drink enough in a sitting to be smashed, but I definitely drink every day and have a problem with it. The habit is just so hard to kick and the fear/anxiety I feel is mentally fucking with me. Any tips would be welcome. My birthday is the end of May, and the best gift I can think of is being soberÖ thanks yíall.

I far from the guy to listen to but Iím really Similar. I am 5 days in now and canít  remember last time I went 5 days without a beer. At least a few years.

For me it just feels like itís time for a break. I feel ready in myself to do it. I think thatís the thing. Unless you really want to do it , it doesnít work.

Also I have been telling people that Iím on a 12 week healthy plan. Def makes it more real to talk about it.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Easy Slider on April 29, 2021, 03:01:07 AM
It is important to let people know you donĎt drink anymore. It may take a while but once the people surrounding you have acknowledged this, the effect is twofold: (1) they will stop proposing to go out drinking and/or offering you alcoholic beverages (if they are your friends, they will indeed offer you non alcoholic beverages and sometimes even refrain from drinking in your presence out of respect for you) and (2) it will serve you as a mental barrier from relapsing as your brain tells you that you would then have to justify why you got drunk altho you have told them repeatedly you were tea total (it works even if in reality they would probably not even care).

Tl;dr: Make it known that you donĎt drink (anymore).

Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Pete on April 29, 2021, 06:01:48 AM
8 months opiate free. I had always taken breaks and shit but this is definitely the longest Iíve gone entirely without. Addiction sucks, being in too much pain to go for a walk sucks as well. The fact that there isnít a happy medium sucks. Etc



You know theyíve developed addiction-free painkillers like real deal shit not some Hollistic horseshit. But thereís no money in that



Free max b
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: jaysouthbay on April 29, 2021, 06:51:29 AM
for those who went sober, did you find that it sobriety had a positive affect on your skating?

if so, in what ways?
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on April 29, 2021, 09:49:37 AM
8 months opiate free. I had always taken breaks and shit but this is definitely the longest Iíve gone entirely without. Addiction sucks, being in too much pain to go for a walk sucks as well. The fact that there isnít a happy medium sucks. Etc



You know theyíve developed addiction-free painkillers like real deal shit not some Hollistic horseshit. But thereís no money in that



Free max b

That'd be great. I wonder how they work. I remember when they were saying the OG OCs were addiction proof and the world got flooded with 80s. That was some truly evil shit.

Good for you dude. Very very cool. I'm glad you're alive and not playing the fent game. Fuck that shit, it was easy enough to die before when you knew what you were getting. Stay safe man

Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Frank and Fred on April 29, 2021, 10:12:09 AM
for those who went sober, did you find that it sobriety had a positive affect on your skating?

if so, in what ways?

I wasn't heavy drinker but pretty consistent. Couple of beers a night. I took January through March completely off and I noticed a big reduction in pain. Things like knee pain and lower back pain that I just put down to being a middle aged skateboarder went away completely. I can't be sure it was all due to alcohol avoidance but I changed little else during that same time period (maybe less sugar also) and was actually stretching less. Spring break, I had a good few beers over that week and noticed those little pains start to creep back up.

I'm now pretty committed to limiting my drinking to one or two on Fridays and Saturdays at this point, especially if it means I can abuse my body more with skateboarding. There is no getting away from the inflammatory potential of alcohol.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Abyss1 on April 29, 2021, 10:23:51 AM
for those who went sober, did you find that it sobriety had a positive affect on your skating?

if so, in what ways?

found i can skate longer and at earlier times of the day and I don't pressure myself to do tricks all the time
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Post by: Miller92 on April 30, 2021, 12:17:50 PM
for those who went sober, did you find that it sobriety had a positive affect on your skating?

if so, in what ways?

yes.  your quads, hamstrings, thigh muscles, etc. that shit dries out and gets stiff from alcohol. 

right after I cut out all hard liquor and started slowing way down on beers my pop and stamina literally came back. 

but also if you wanna skate better do a bunch of planks and core strength bodyweight exercises.  that helps a ton
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Mongey on May 09, 2021, 04:04:15 AM
Hit my 2 weeks booze free today. Had a few tough moments  ,but not too many. Been at least 7 years since Iíve done 2 weeks with out a sip.

 Bought some zero alcohol beer for the tough moments and itís really helped surprisingly . Like a Friday night after a long week. One of those after we get the kids fed and in bed  def helps me settle down on the urge.

My first goal is 1 month. So halfway there. Gotta keep at it.



Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: straight on May 09, 2021, 01:56:42 PM
Hit my 2 weeks booze free today. Had a few tough moments  ,but not too many. Been at least 7 years since Iíve done 2 weeks with out a sip.

 Bought some zero alcohol beer for the tough moments and itís really helped surprisingly . Like a Friday night after a long week. One of those after we get the kids fed and in bed  def helps me settle down on the urge.

My first goal is 1 month. So halfway there. Gotta keep at it.

itís corny but itís easy if you just think of it is a one day at a time
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: gaunting on May 11, 2021, 06:56:02 AM
almost 4 days off kratom. that shit had a hold on me for 3 years. still feel pretty shitty, but Iím getting through the worst of it. looking forward to not have to depend on a substance anymore.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Huell Howser on October 13, 2021, 03:30:01 PM
Just bumping to say I have almost gone 7 months without alcohol, longest I have gone since I have started drinking. Can't say I am sober because I smoke weed every now and again but damn I cannot deny how much better I have felt the last few months
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on October 13, 2021, 06:31:24 PM
Hit my 2 weeks booze free today. Had a few tough moments  ,but not too many. Been at least 7 years since Iíve done 2 weeks with out a sip.

 Bought some zero alcohol beer for the tough moments and itís really helped surprisingly . Like a Friday night after a long week. One of those after we get the kids fed and in bed  def helps me settle down on the urge.

My first goal is 1 month. So halfway there. Gotta keep at it.

Congratulations @Mongey that's amazing. One day at a time <3
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Below Average on April 02, 2022, 05:01:26 PM
So I quit drinking close to a year ago now and itís honestly been fantastic so far. I feel like a completely different person now and my mood has improved drastically to the point where I feel like my old self again before my drinking got out of control. I told myself at the time when I stopped that I would just stick to weed for the rest of my life and things would be ok like that. Or so I thought..

I have been smoking weed on and off for a long time now, and Iíve been lighting up almost every day since the pandemic hit. Everything was fine for a while and I even got the opportunity to try a huge variety of edibles which were fun. I was also super excited about my state legalizing weed last year which was a huge relief because I was always super paranoid about the legal ramifications that came with buying and using weed.

But something has come over me recently, almost like a switch went off in my head that all of a sudden changed my perspective about life and where I am at the moment, and who I want to be going forward. I think because of this, I started to get very intense anxiety every time I got high, to the point where Iíd wish I was sober instead. I even tried different strains of bud, but it didnít seem to help and I would just get stuck in my head way too much.  I am almost 32 now and I think a lot of it has to do with me getting older and just naturally growing as a human being, or even simply just out-growing things that I was once into when I was younger.

Iíve decided that weed is not for me anymore, as I no longer enjoy it when I light up. Some of my friends were shocked that I decided to quit that too, since I was all about it for the past couple of years. I realized that living a completely sober life is the life I want to live and I couldnít be more happier in my decision.  Iím never looking back.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: igrindtwinkies on April 02, 2022, 06:06:42 PM
for those who went sober, did you find that it sobriety had a positive affect on your skating?

if so, in what ways?

Your muscles recover much much faster when you aren't drunk all the time.
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on April 03, 2022, 09:55:48 AM
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if so, in what ways?
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Your muscles recover much much faster when you aren't drunk all the time.

Yes. I'm used to crush beers and skate. I'd do cool shit but my stamina was artificially inflated and when I'd eat it, I'd get far more hurt than I should have
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Huell Howser on April 05, 2022, 10:10:11 AM
I notice after quitting drinking for a year i am so much more sensitive to a night of bad sleep/or eating a bunch of greasy/sugary food. im weak af

I think my baseline has changed because being hungover all the time used to be the norm so functioning throughout a normal day was always foggy/headache was there and feeling like shit was tolerable

but of course overall feel way better
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on April 05, 2022, 11:03:51 AM
I notice after quitting drinking for a year i am so much more sensitive to a night of bad sleep/or eating a bunch of greasy/sugary food. im weak af

I think my baseline has changed because being hungover all the time used to be the norm so functioning throughout a normal day was always foggy/headache was there and feeling like shit was tolerable

but of course overall feel way better

dude. my dude. it took about a year of not drinking to realize that I had always been hungover and didn't realize that feeling like that was a result of drinking and living that life. Now, shit, if I don't get my 8 hours, I'm having anxiety attacks and shit
Title: Re: SOBRIETY
Post by: Huell Howser on April 05, 2022, 03:33:54 PM
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I notice after quitting drinking for a year i am so much more sensitive to a night of bad sleep/or eating a bunch of greasy/sugary food. im weak af

I think my baseline has changed because being hungover all the time used to be the norm so functioning throughout a normal day was always foggy/headache was there and feeling like shit was tolerable

but of course overall feel way better
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dude. my dude. it took about a year of not drinking to realize that I had always been hungover and didn't realize that feeling like that was a result of drinking and living that life. Now, shit, if I don't get my 8 hours, I'm having anxiety attacks and shit

hahaha so true. the other day got less than 4 hours and had to do shit all day the next day, felt so dead. old hungover me woulda rallied much harder lmao
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Post by: AlexOlsonsDashiki on April 06, 2022, 07:32:30 PM
I celebrated 4 years sober on april 1st

I had the toughest year of my life last year. I was just starting to get settled in at a new job as a software engineer so my responsibilities were ramped up. Days after my 3 year anniversary my kids mom left and moved in with her boss. I learned how to be a single dad, ended up in an abusive relationship, got out of that relationship, started doing stand up comedy, grew closer with my daughter than I ever have been, have began making money doing comedy, close on my first house next week, started utilizing run-on sentences.

What I thought was going to be the end of my sobriety ended up being the catalyst for what is now the happiest I have ever been in my life. Keep on keeping on guys and gals.
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Post by: iKobrakai on April 07, 2022, 10:26:50 PM
9 years today.

Keep your heads up, pals.
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Post by: IusedToSkateMore on April 08, 2022, 09:35:17 AM
9 years today.

Keep your heads up, pals.

Hell ya, kid. Big 9. Double digits coming up on ya
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Post by: hmmmokay on April 11, 2022, 01:29:44 PM
Posting this because I'm stoked but also for a little accountability. Hit a month sober the other day (today will be day 33) and I'm feeling good, better than in a long time. I've had stretches of sobriety in the past but this feels very different, and I am much more confident and committed.

Much love to all the sober pals sharing their stories, both the struggles and successes.
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Post by: IusedToSkateMore on April 11, 2022, 05:07:30 PM
Posting this because I'm stoked but also for a little accountability. Hit a month sober the other day (today will be day 33) and I'm feeling good, better than in a long time. I've had stretches of sobriety in the past but this feels very different, and I am much more confident and committed.

Much love to all the sober pals sharing their stories, both the struggles and successes.

first month is huge. I still have the calendar I created to track the days during that month. good for you, hombre.
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Post by: Bunk Moreland on April 11, 2022, 06:39:29 PM
I need to not drink. I got fucking fat, and I need to not be fat. I donít even like drinking anymore, I have how I feel, but I love beer. My friends all drink. Any time we do something itís always beers after. I like my friends, but I think I need to set some boundaries.
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Post by: IusedToSkateMore on April 11, 2022, 07:03:35 PM
I need to not drink. I got fucking fat, and I need to not be fat. I donít even like drinking anymore, I have how I feel, but I love beer. My friends all drink. Any time we do something itís always beers after. I like my friends, but I think I need to set some boundaries.

I had to leave some "friends" behind on the journey to stop drinking beer. the real ones still holler to hang out and do other stuff. they're also cool about not getting wasted around me and respecting that I'm not going to go to the bar. the new, post drinking friendships have been developed around things that aren't and have nothing to do with drinking.

hardest ones been with my pop though. we were good drinking buddies. man, my mom hated it when me and my dad would take a drive his ford ranger to the packy and redeem cans/bottles at like 11am on a Saturday. use the redemption money to pay for more beers. split a couple bombers on the back roads home. stop by the bar for kale soup and stuffed quahogs. next thing you know we're sitting on the front step drinking some IPAs and its 8pm and we gotta walk back to the bar to shoot pool. that was the relationship we kicked it with for most of my 20s. real hard to rearrange that sort of shit over the past 7 years, but it's gotten better and easier. Old man really tries to respect me like that.
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Post by: iKobrakai on April 11, 2022, 10:06:34 PM
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Posting this because I'm stoked but also for a little accountability. Hit a month sober the other day (today will be day 33) and I'm feeling good, better than in a long time. I've had stretches of sobriety in the past but this feels very different, and I am much more confident and committed.

Much love to all the sober pals sharing their stories, both the struggles and successes.
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first month is huge. I still have the calendar I created to track the days during that month. good for you, hombre.

Truly is huge and hard. Now you know it's possible, keep working!
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Post by: Allen. on April 11, 2022, 10:35:28 PM
Props to everyone sharing their stories and doing what they can to better themselves. Iím coming up on four months off the sauce and I really donít miss it.. itís definitely the longest time Iíve gone without drinking in a handful of years. Most of 2019, all of 2020, and most of 2021 I was drinking every fucking day. Fuck that noise. I was so tired of being tired and bloated and the dumb arguments.
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Post by: Mark Renton on April 11, 2022, 11:15:23 PM
Since I finally found a decent work-life balance Iíve been able to cut down booze and weed A LOT.

Total sobriety always seemed a bit forced to me.
I totally respect those who do it tho of course, and I was influenced by SxE bands when I was younger.

But yeah I basically cut everything down to the weekend and even then itís not what it used to be unless Iím on holiday or thereís a particular celebration.

No more half bottles of bourbon on Tuesday nights and ounces of weed.
No more shots of Jager with drops of benzos on mornings while wfh.

I always knew there was something off when I was doing it that way. It was my reaction to a life and a society I couldnít keep up with. To keep my mind limber you know?

But fuck yeah Iím so happy about myself. At some point Iím gonna quit cigs tho, those are the most subtle and stupid bullshit. I will get there.

Big up to everyone Ďexposingí their weaknesses and even if just one person (even lurkers) read this and get somehow inspired by it that would make my day Iím telling you.

Choose life.
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Post by: iKobrakai on April 11, 2022, 11:48:27 PM
Since I finally found a decent work-life balance Iíve been able to cut down booze and weed A LOT.

Total sobriety always seemed a bit forced to me.
I totally respect those who do it tho of course, and I was influenced by SxE bands when I was younger.

But yeah I basically cut everything down to the weekend and even then itís not what it used to be unless Iím on holiday or thereís a particular celebration.

No more half bottles of bourbon on Tuesday nights and ounces of weed.
No more shots of Jager with drops of benzos on mornings while wfh.

I always knew there was something off when I was doing it that way. It was my reaction to a life and a society I couldnít keep up with. To keep my mind limber you know?

But fuck yeah Iím so happy about myself. At some point Iím gonna quit cigs tho, those are the most subtle and stupid bullshit. I will get there.

Big up to everyone Ďexposingí their weaknesses and even if just one person (even lurkers) read this and get somehow inspired by it that would make my day Iím telling you.

Choose life.

Gotta find whatever works for you.

I wish I could just smoke weed or some shit, but no dice. Even in sobriety I end up obsessing about shit, like Randy. I can't just train, I have to deadlift 500 lbs, squat despite shoulder and knee pain. Chemical substancies are beyond my control, even caffiene and Mc Donalds is hard to handle.

But, again, I stricktly pro best method to achieve ones goal. If it works, it work.
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Post by: Prostate Exam on April 12, 2022, 01:14:22 AM
I went through about 11-12 years of heavy drinking, especially on weekends.

Every weekend I went out partying with my friends and binge drink both friday and saturday evening. Every sunday was a nightmare that I usually spent in bed.
I slowly started developing a habit of drinking every day. I would crush a 6 pack of tall cans on a normal weekday and then on weekends I had no limits.

I was never the street-drug kinda person, booze was my way to let loose. I never touched anything but a bit of green and alcohol, most of my friends though started doing blow, ecstasy and all that shit.

When I was around 25 it started getting very serious. The hangovers were getting worse and worse and my body was showing some weird symptoms. I had twitches and muscle pains all over my body but the worst symptom was the anxiety.

Every sunday after a heavy weekend I would get so fucking scared. First it was just hypochondria. I would spend all week calling doctors and self-analyzing and googling symptoms. Every week it was a different disease.

I was convinced that I had brain cancer, colon cancer, ALS or MS. Pretty much any disease you can think of I was convinced of having it at one point. I spent a shitton of money on doctors and self medication, but deep within myself I knew that all this shit came from drinking and not taking care of myself.

After years and years of fullblown hypochondria I developed a new form of anxiety. I never really experienced any memory loss from drinking only when the night was seriously bad.

In 2018 I spent 4 days drinking and skating at a contest and when I came home I went into full blown paranoia. My friend called me and said "Don't you remember? We facetimed at around 5am in the morning and you were bla bla bla..."

I did not remember any of that and I started getting scared. What if I did something bad while I was shitfaced and don't remember it anymore. What if I hurt somebody?

I was searching for evidence. I would read the news, searching my pockets of the pants that I wore that weekend. Every bloodstain on my clothes, that evidently was my blood that stemmed from an injury that I got while skating, I was convinced that it was the blood of a person that I hurt.

I was never a bad drunk, I was always very calm and would behave. I never got into fights or any altercation, but somehow I was so afraid of messing everything up. Eventhough there wasn't any serious evidence of any fight or stupid behavior.

I was getting freaked out when I heard police sirens or saw a cop looking at me. I couldn't sleep and every night I would go out and walk around with no direction.

At that point I quit drinking cold turkey and went to a psychiatrist. After about a month of sobriety I was developing serious health problems and had to go to the hospital. My appendix almost burst and I was completely fucked up. I had to get three surgeries and couldn't do shit.

One day when I woke up at the hospital, two cops were in the room starring at me. My heart almost exploded. They weren't saying a word, they were just standing there waiting for something. I was convinced they were coming to arrest me for whatever.
Then the door opened and the guy that was with me in the room came in after his kidney stone removal. Turned out, the cop was his sister and took a break from her duty to come and visit her brother.

This was one of the bad situations of all the anxiety that I went through and I had to get clean.

I would quit cold turkey for several months and then would "allow" me to have some drinks. But every time I would just slowly get back into binge drinking. My anxiety would kick back in full blown after some heavy nights.

I then managed to quit for two years and had a lot of time to think about the whole situation and sobriety really helped me out a lot. But I didn't want to turn into this sobriety-advocate so I would allow myself two to three beers on a day off.
No binge drinking anymore, no all-nighters anymore and so far it worked out.

Now if I notice any sign of anxiety kicking in, I will pull the brakes immediately and quit for months and relax. But I don't want to cut out alcohol completely. I take it as a treat after a good session or a heavy work week, or maybe have a glass of wine or beer with a good dinner.

The one thing that really helped me through all of this was skateboarding. Without it I would probably have ended up in an insane asylum. And I have to tell you, you skate 10 times better when you're not hung-over or drunk.

Your muscles regenerate a lot quicker and you can focus a lot better.

At this point I am just trying to regulate everything and see where it will take me. Maybe I will go through phases of anxiety again and quit or maybe I can stick to my rules and drink occasionally on weekends.
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Post by: RottenToTheCore on April 19, 2022, 06:07:00 AM
Quit cigarettes, weed and alcohol simultaneously 26 days ago, feels great
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Post by: Easy Slider on April 19, 2022, 07:21:21 AM
Quit cigarettes, weed and alcohol simultaneously 26 days ago, feels great

Great achievement!
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Post by: beatifk on April 19, 2022, 07:31:36 AM
I can't go full sobriety but the last time I went out with a friend he kept pressuring me, "one more drink", as he usually does. I had 1 beer earlier in the day with lunch, then drank a coke at the second stop, then a cocktail at the 3rd stop, but he kept saying, "let's go for another..." and it's true, it was only like 5pm at that moment, and I wasn't quite ready to head home so I told him I would have a tea. I ordered a hot green tea at the last bar near his place. It was actually pretty satisfying. I felt like a responsible adult.

And on Sunday I woke up early, with no headache, played some guitar and went skating for a few hours in the afternoon.

My friend went out with another friend after I left and he said he spent all of Sunday in bed basically. He's over 10 years younger than me.

I think this tea trick will be my new go-to.

And also, not keeping any booze at home. I do buy Coca-Cola as a substitute, so I'm kinda trading one poison for another, but coke doesn't make me feel like complete shit the next day, so I'll take it as a win for now.

I did however plant my yearly summer weed crop, but mostly that's just a fun hobby and I end up giving most of it away to friends. And my current crop of mushies are coming in nicely. I practice selective sobriety I guess. Alcohol is easily the substance that makes me feel worst.

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Post by: RottenToTheCore on April 21, 2022, 03:49:37 AM
Bought a six pack of tall cans and cigarettes last night and I already regret it, don't think I can handle doing shit in moderation
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Post by: El Fapinator on April 23, 2022, 07:20:24 AM
So Iím 35 dayís in to sobriety and I am cruising, however the other day I was on a fetish site looking around, who do I see?

My recent  exgf was on there with her new man and degraded holes varieties of nudes as well as dudes spunk on what was mine?! Yeah Iím a tiny bit jealous lol Iíll admit with much chagrin that small piece of me is mad.

I remind myself of what I have lost and I donít want anymore, fuck I hate that I have a heart.
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Post by: iKobrakai on April 24, 2022, 03:03:22 AM
So Iím 35 dayís in to sobriety and I am cruising, however the other day I was on a fetish site looking around, who do I see?

My recent  exgf was on there with her new man and degraded holes varieties of nudes as well as dudes spunk on what was mine?! Yeah Iím a tiny bit jealous lol Iíll admit with much chagrin that small piece of me is mad.

I remind myself of what I have lost and I donít want anymore, fuck I hate that I have a heart.

Can't say I can relate, but keep doing what you've been doing so far.
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Post by: Abyss1 on April 25, 2022, 09:03:30 AM
So Iím 35 dayís in to sobriety and I am cruising, however the other day I was on a fetish site looking around, who do I see?

My recent  exgf was on there with her new man and degraded holes varieties of nudes as well as dudes spunk on what was mine?! Yeah Iím a tiny bit jealous lol Iíll admit with much chagrin that small piece of me is mad.

I remind myself of what I have lost and I donít want anymore, fuck I hate that I have a heart.

I might be different, but I find people who are seeking that kind of attention aren't really healthy, probably better off finding some girl who doesn't have pics of her getting bukakke'd out on the net.  I got an ex who is trying to sell candles and oils to those crystal mommys and another who is thirst trapping in her late 30s and I think I missed a bullet breaking up with them

I also find a lot of that thirst trap shit that goes down on IG and OnlyFans is super cringe.

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Post by: El Fapinator on April 26, 2022, 05:51:54 PM
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So Iím 35 dayís in to sobriety and I am cruising, however the other day I was on a fetish site looking around, who do I see?

My recent  exgf was on there with her new man and degraded holes varieties of nudes as well as dudes spunk on what was mine?! Yeah Iím a tiny bit jealous lol Iíll admit with much chagrin that small piece of me is mad.

I remind myself of what I have lost and I donít want anymore, fuck I hate that I have a heart.
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I might be different, but I find people who are seeking that kind of attention aren't really healthy, probably better off finding some girl who doesn't have pics of her getting bukakke'd out on the net.  I got an ex who is trying to sell candles and oils to those crystal mommys and another who is thirst trapping in her late 30s and I think I missed a bullet breaking up with them

I also find a lot of that thirst trap shit that goes down on IG and OnlyFans is super cringe.
This guy gets it, I realize sheís probably not the healthiest of people and for that it makes me sad.  However Iím glad to be on this journey for now, Iím not really trying to be with anyone else.

Yeah I can bang some random hoes not that Iím down for being a man whore just Iím not trying to marry or be with anyone else for the foreseeable future.

Onlyfans and other thirst traps are highly cringe, sure I can look at random boobs via Reddit or on a hiking trail,  seen that movie Roll Models? Yeah Iím that dude who has 360 vision for some boobs.
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Post by: Abyss1 on April 27, 2022, 10:53:25 AM
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So Iím 35 dayís in to sobriety and I am cruising, however the other day I was on a fetish site looking around, who do I see?

My recent  exgf was on there with her new man and degraded holes varieties of nudes as well as dudes spunk on what was mine?! Yeah Iím a tiny bit jealous lol Iíll admit with much chagrin that small piece of me is mad.

I remind myself of what I have lost and I donít want anymore, fuck I hate that I have a heart.
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I might be different, but I find people who are seeking that kind of attention aren't really healthy, probably better off finding some girl who doesn't have pics of her getting bukakke'd out on the net.  I got an ex who is trying to sell candles and oils to those crystal mommys and another who is thirst trapping in her late 30s and I think I missed a bullet breaking up with them

I also find a lot of that thirst trap shit that goes down on IG and OnlyFans is super cringe.
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This guy gets it, I realize sheís probably not the healthiest of people and for that it makes me sad.  However Iím glad to be on this journey for now, Iím not really trying to be with anyone else.

Yeah I can bang some random hoes not that Iím down for being a man whore just Iím not trying to marry or be with anyone else for the foreseeable future.

Onlyfans and other thirst traps are highly cringe, sure I can look at random boobs via Reddit or on a hiking trail,  seen that movie Roll Models? Yeah Iím that dude who has 360 vision for some boobs.

wanting to keep things healthy is good thing and I've tried that a few times myself to no avail.   It's crazy to me to think that some people don't care about the people they break up with after they've broken up. 

Trust me I like looking at beautiful women too and have and usually find that most porn sites usually handles any itch to see a certain type of woman naked or being stuffed.  Just think its super wack when regular ass people who are not porn stars or model tries to make themselves out to look like someone who was featured in Playboy or Hustler. 

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Post by: El Fapinator on April 27, 2022, 02:34:17 PM
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So Iím 35 dayís in to sobriety and I am cruising, however the other day I was on a fetish site looking around, who do I see?

My recent  exgf was on there with her new man and degraded holes varieties of nudes as well as dudes spunk on what was mine?! Yeah Iím a tiny bit jealous lol Iíll admit with much chagrin that small piece of me is mad.

I remind myself of what I have lost and I donít want anymore, fuck I hate that I have a heart.
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I might be different, but I find people who are seeking that kind of attention aren't really healthy, probably better off finding some girl who doesn't have pics of her getting bukakke'd out on the net.  I got an ex who is trying to sell candles and oils to those crystal mommys and another who is thirst trapping in her late 30s and I think I missed a bullet breaking up with them

I also find a lot of that thirst trap shit that goes down on IG and OnlyFans is super cringe.
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This guy gets it, I realize sheís probably not the healthiest of people and for that it makes me sad.  However Iím glad to be on this journey for now, Iím not really trying to be with anyone else.

Yeah I can bang some random hoes not that Iím down for being a man whore just Iím not trying to marry or be with anyone else for the foreseeable future.

Onlyfans and other thirst traps are highly cringe, sure I can look at random boobs via Reddit or on a hiking trail,  seen that movie Roll Models? Yeah Iím that dude who has 360 vision for some boobs.
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wanting to keep things healthy is good thing and I've tried that a few times myself to no avail.   It's crazy to me to think that some people don't care about the people they break up with after they've broken up. 

Trust me I like looking at beautiful women too and have and usually find that most porn sites usually handles any itch to see a certain type of woman naked or being stuffed.  Just think its super wack when regular ass people who are not porn stars or model tries to make themselves out to look like someone who was featured in Playboy or Hustler.
Or worse yet some trafficked whore who has no shame for oneís self. For me itís a conundrum and a paradox, lol what I mean is you think youíd know someone through and through yet something you find thatís mind blowing like wtf?$ I didnít see that coming?!

Makes for well shit who was that person? I spent 12 years with?!
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Post by: igrindtwinkies on May 13, 2022, 01:34:23 AM
I'm six months and a week off alcohol.  I still smoke weed and take kratom once a week.  Been skating three to four times a week.  Feeling pretty good.
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Post by: IusedToSkateMore on May 13, 2022, 11:30:16 AM
I'm six months and a week off alcohol.  I still smoke weed and take kratom once a week.  Been skating three to four times a week.  Feeling pretty good.

That's what's up, man. Good for you. Ive only ever done toss and wash Kratom and it leaves me feeling kind of gross, so I steer clear. But ya gotta do what works!!!
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Post by: boi-cuzudo on May 18, 2022, 09:32:23 AM
I'm going full straight edge mode from now own, I'm enjoying being sober and am trying to reconnect with my feelings/emotions/body/soul
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Post by: Easy Slider on May 18, 2022, 02:16:07 PM
I'm going full straight edge mode from now own, I'm enjoying being sober and am trying to reconnect with my feelings/emotions/body/soul

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d5/WereNotInThisAloneOriginal.jpg)
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Post by: boi-cuzudo on May 18, 2022, 04:38:01 PM
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I'm going full straight edge mode from now own, I'm enjoying being sober and am trying to reconnect with my feelings/emotions/body/soul
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d5/WereNotInThisAloneOriginal.jpg)

fuck yeah