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Title: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 02, 2020, 09:28:47 PM
Always on the grind. what’s up shredders, thinking about copping some venture 5.6 today, the real question is should I go with good ol polished or should I go with some v-lights or v-hollows? I usually run 144 Indy but fuck it I wanna switch it up. I’m probably going to hate my life fucking with the wheelbase and pop feel of switching truck brands but fuck it I wanna support dlx and my last few thunders have been absolute trash. I skate 8.25 quasi or fa/hockey squarish shapes 14-14.25wb right now & I’m use to the indy feel. Any suggestions get at me, shalom.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on January 02, 2020, 09:59:28 PM
I bought some 5.8's and while I don't run them as my truck of choice, they feel great once you replace the top washer with a flat one. comparable to indy with nicer pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on January 02, 2020, 10:33:08 PM
The vlights and vhollows have a forged baseplate which extends the wheelbase more than the casts do. So if you want it to be a little closer to your indys probably just get the standard polished 5.6s unless you want to shave some weight off.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 02, 2020, 11:00:17 PM
Shiiiiit I wish I skated 8 or 8.75 because the new raw kaders fuckin SMACK.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6vt7GhDWQf/?igshid=yng86vgbwrwd

I hope venture is on the come up for real. They been around longer than I’ve been born I think lol but I never see them at a sesh or at the park just indy/ace or thunder bros. Company seems ill to me, and the hangers are HARD  ;D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BL0B on January 02, 2020, 11:12:29 PM
that top bushing looks like shit in the 2nd pic.


almost grabbed some of those the other day online, glad i didn't.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: arrbee on January 03, 2020, 03:18:25 AM
I run those those same quasi’s on 5.8’s absolutely love it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sativa Lung on January 03, 2020, 06:44:07 AM
I've skated 5.6 v-hollows on a couple setups and loved them every time, in fact I like them so much I just got a second pair. They're really light, like 327g which is about the same as a Thunder 149 hollow iirc, and super stable. I always feel like I pop better and more consistently on ventures, too.

I like them best on shorter wb decks. The two that really stood out for me were a 14" wb 8.25" Pennswood "kiddie pool" concave deck and a 14.12" wb 8.28" AH Kanfoush deck. I probably wouldn't recommend using them on like a 14.5"+ wb unless you really like long wheelbase setups but overall they're fantastic trucks.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on January 03, 2020, 08:55:26 AM
New year new you.
I say if your on a short wheelbase deck you should give it a shot. Worst case just throw your indys back on. I would maybe just watch the height difference on whichever one you decide on.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 03, 2020, 08:59:21 AM
Thanks for the feedback gents, I might even Franken a pair of 5.6 raws and 5.6 v-lights with the hollow kingpin to shave weight, but keep the cast baseplate for the pop and wheelbase sake. I’m hyped I’m getting them today at 6pm central. AWAKE.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SneakySecrets on January 03, 2020, 09:30:20 AM
Thanks for the feedback gents, I might even Franken a pair of 5.6 raws and 5.6 v-lights with the hollow kingpin to shave weight, but keep the cast baseplate for the pop and wheelbase sake. I’m hyped I’m getting them today at 6pm central. AWAKE.

Ok sick.  I set an alarm on my phone so I can look up to the sky and know you’re somewhere out there living that AWAKE Venture lifestyle you’ve always dreamed of.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bbk on January 03, 2020, 09:44:58 AM
Thanks for the feedback gents, I might even Franken a pair of 5.6 raws and 5.6 v-lights with the hollow kingpin to shave weight, but keep the cast baseplate for the pop and wheelbase sake. I’m hyped I’m getting them today at 6pm central. AWAKE.
Lol wut? you're buying v-lights becuase of weight/kingpin, but keep cast plates? so you want to hammer both kingpins out and put the hollow one in the cast plates?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 03, 2020, 09:53:27 AM
Thanks for the feedback gents, I might even Franken a pair of 5.6 raws and 5.6 v-lights with the hollow kingpin to shave weight, but keep the cast baseplate for the pop and wheelbase sake. I’m hyped I’m getting them today at 6pm central. AWAKE.

cmon. have you even owned a pair of ventures? i know dlx has good marketing but you should be ashamed for typing that unironically
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: stets on January 03, 2020, 10:34:43 AM
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Thanks for the feedback gents, I might even Franken a pair of 5.6 raws and 5.6 v-lights with the hollow kingpin to shave weight, but keep the cast baseplate for the pop and wheelbase sake. I’m hyped I’m getting them today at 6pm central. AWAKE.
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Lol wut? you're buying v-lights becuase of weight/kingpin, but keep cast plates? so you want to hammer both kingpins out and put the hollow one in the cast plates?

I think he's talking about doing this because the V-Lights also have a hollow axel? I was wondering too before realizing it has a hollow kingpin and axel. I did a similar thing with my Thunders, used an old cast baseplate with titanium axel 149's, before they started making the Team Titanium or whatever that comes stock with cast baseplate.

Hey Sadnocomply, if you buy both trucks to frankenstein, buy Thunder hollow replacement kingpins to put in the cast baseplate rather than hammering out the ones from the forged baseplate. Hammering out hollow kingpins is very difficult and can "mushroom" the head of it, making it harder to remove all the way and also rendering it useless for re-use. Probably weakens it too. Installing a brand new hollow kingpin is a better bet!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mr. Stinky on January 03, 2020, 11:39:52 AM
I am also jonesing hard some new trucks and those are topping the list, so thank you for relieving me of the need to start a thread.  I got a Baker 8.125" OG shape for Christmas after riding long/wide boards for ages and set it up with 44s.  Feels a lot more like what I skated as a kid which has unexpectedly brought some tricks back from the deep memory banks, and is just generally a lot easier on these old ass legs; but concave is super mellow and the pop feels a little light with Aces to the point where I can't get up on higher ledges much easier than on a beefy boy/tranny setup.  Hard to feel like I'm really getting the full benefit of a lighter/more compact setup that way.   

The smaller board size has already made a noticeable enough difference on its own just in terms of feeling more controllable, and I don't actually have any 8.25" trucks; 148 Lights and 5.6 V-Lights are looking pretty good.   If I'm just skating flatground and ledge stuff, trying to get some tricks back and lock down the few I already sort of have, what's the big diff between Venture and Thunder?  I know Venture slides on the baseplate like Indy/Ace which is a big plus, and apart from that it's Thunder agility vs. Venture stability, but anything else to consider when picking between the two? All I know is that I can basically see middle age from here and I want my few tricks to pop as much as they can before the first half of my life finishes its trip around the drain and I assume my final form as the curb nuisance/coping slasher we're all destined for if we're lucky. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sharkin on January 03, 2020, 11:50:17 AM
the truck madness has spilled out into a thread for every brand now?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 03, 2020, 12:00:15 PM
that top bushing looks like shit in the 2nd pic.


almost grabbed some of those the other day online, glad i didn't.

Pivots cups are the same way, pretty ghetto - swapped them all out right away, no problems with the metals.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mr. Stinky on January 03, 2020, 12:32:58 PM
For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 03, 2020, 12:38:40 PM
For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.

Let’s hope he didn’t pick Krux amirite
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 03, 2020, 12:54:47 PM
V-Lites = forged plate - hollow pins, and solid axles

V-Hollows = forged plate - hollow pins and axles
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: art hellman on January 03, 2020, 01:02:14 PM
For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/DpXqHdILXRRDi/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mr. Stinky on January 03, 2020, 01:57:08 PM
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For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.
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Let’s hope he didn’t pick Krux amirite

Titan. Our family had to change its last name.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on January 03, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
I'm curious how this wb stuff shakes out. Cast Venture's are looking close to forged Indy's.
Anyone else thinking Venture needs to do a hollow cast version?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 03, 2020, 02:09:08 PM
I'm curious how this wb stuff shakes out. Cast Venture's are looking close to forged Indy's.
Anyone else thinking Venture needs to do a hollow cast version?

i think they need to do the 6.1 special editions already. was expecting them this drop but maybe it takes more R&D than i think.

hollow cast would be dope. is it me or does venture not have as many options as indy/thunder?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on January 03, 2020, 02:14:06 PM
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I'm curious how this wb stuff shakes out. Cast Venture's are looking close to forged Indy's.
Anyone else thinking Venture needs to do a hollow cast version?
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i think they need to do the 6.1 special editions already. was expecting them this drop but maybe it takes more R&D than i think.

hollow cast would be dope. is it me or does venture not have as many options as indy/thunder?
nah, they got the parts already, just need to mix-n-match, and make some new SKU's, add a page to the catalog
yep, I agree with fewer options. Didn't they come out with Ti after Indy and Thunder? Red-headed stepchild of DLX/Ermico? At least 2nd to Thunder..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on January 03, 2020, 03:54:03 PM
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For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.
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Let’s hope he didn’t pick Krux amirite
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Titan. Our family had to change its last name.
Thanks for that huge laugh man. Ugh that Titan axle was a nightmare.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 03, 2020, 07:05:19 PM
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For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.
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Let’s hope he didn’t pick Krux amirite
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Titan. Our family had to change its last name.
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Thanks for that huge laugh man. Ugh that Titan axle was a nightmare.

Shit, I forgot about Titan! Didn't Black Box have Monster or Destroyer trucks at 1 point?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 03, 2020, 07:11:40 PM
I've skated 5.6 v-hollows on a couple setups and loved them every time, in fact I like them so much I just got a second pair. They're really light, like 327g which is about the same as a Thunder 149 hollow iirc, and super stable. I always feel like I pop better and more consistently on ventures, too.

I like them best on shorter wb decks. The two that really stood out for me were a 14" wb 8.25" Pennswood "kiddie pool" concave deck and a 14.12" wb 8.28" AH Kanfoush deck. I probably wouldn't recommend using them on like a 14.5"+ wb unless you really like long wheelbase setups but overall they're fantastic trucks.

I was swapping my ventures between two decks:

Primitive 8.25 x 31.875 x 14"WB
AH: 8.28 x 31.65 x 14.12"WB (same shape as the AH Kanfoush but they have 31.65 and a 31.75 length variation...odd).

The 5.6s feel amazing on the Primitive and like shit to me on the AH, it's either the length of the AH or the length of the tail. My manual point is the best it's ever been on the primitive with ventures and total shit on the AH with ventures; pop is a bit weird tho on the prim, might be the tail length (it's pretty long at 6.875". I thought for sure they'd be fine on that AH tho...so odd, we're talking 0.12" here...but it feels night and day.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on January 03, 2020, 08:52:38 PM
The only truck that matters

The banner ad tells me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Krooked antihero on January 04, 2020, 12:05:37 PM
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For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.
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Let’s hope he didn’t pick Krux amirite
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Titan. Our family had to change its last name.
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Thanks for that huge laugh man. Ugh that Titan axle was a nightmare.
Homie got these trucks, he broke that fucking hex head of kingpin first try, being a 13yrs old trying to tighten them up from factory setup😂😂
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 13, 2020, 01:11:00 PM
Anybody anxiously waiting for those prod 5.6 titaniums like me or what!!!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Yesterdays-pop on January 13, 2020, 08:18:34 PM
I’m on that vintage venture 5.0 wave
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on January 23, 2020, 06:37:49 AM
Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indy’s and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but I’m wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but don’t know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 23, 2020, 07:02:12 AM
I’m on that vintage venture 5.0 wave

Best wave
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on January 23, 2020, 07:22:13 AM
Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indy’s and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but I’m wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but don’t know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8

Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 23, 2020, 07:24:53 AM
that top bushing looks like shit in the 2nd pic.


almost grabbed some of those the other day online, glad i didn't.

yeah I swapped the top for a cracking bones med.

The washer on top cuts into the yoke as well. I recommend  top washer swap

Just wondering if kader the new lion from mt zion who is the hardest in this forest?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 23, 2020, 07:37:07 AM
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Thanks for the feedback gents, I might even Franken a pair of 5.6 raws and 5.6 v-lights with the hollow kingpin to shave weight, but keep the cast baseplate for the pop and wheelbase sake. I’m hyped I’m getting them today at 6pm central. AWAKE.
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Lol wut? you're buying v-lights becuase of weight/kingpin, but keep cast plates? so you want to hammer both kingpins out and put the hollow one in the cast plates?
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I think he's talking about doing this because the V-Lights also have a hollow axel? I was wondering too before realizing it has a hollow kingpin and axel. I did a similar thing with my Thunders, used an old cast baseplate with titanium axel 149's, before they started making the Team Titanium or whatever that comes stock with cast baseplate.

Hey Sadnocomply, if you buy both trucks to frankenstein, buy Thunder hollow replacement kingpins to put in the cast baseplate rather than hammering out the ones from the forged baseplate. Hammering out hollow kingpins is very difficult and can "mushroom" the head of it, making it harder to remove all the way and also rendering it useless for re-use. Probably weakens it too. Installing a brand new hollow kingpin is a better bet!

two machine shops around here helped me with kingpin replacement. They threw it up on the press and even glued the old gk down for me.

I was a machinist before drugs happened and my 3rd? major head injury. So maybe they just pity me but they do it for free.

My auntie Sally was a machinist too. Rip Sally i luv you i miss you.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 23, 2020, 01:27:50 PM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indy’s and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but I’m wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but don’t know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.

I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow (especially considering the price), unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fulfillthedream on January 23, 2020, 01:35:23 PM
damn noticing so many more people riding ventures!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on January 23, 2020, 01:38:09 PM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indy’s and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but I’m wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but don’t know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh

Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause I’m kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is what’s kinda getting me shook. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 23, 2020, 01:58:14 PM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indy’s and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but I’m wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but don’t know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause I’m kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is what’s kinda getting me shook.

If you are coming from Indy you'll feel the change for sure - I'm riding them on a short (14") WB so I don't notice the extra length and they're already compensating for what I normally feel comfy on. I did NOT like them on a long WB and wouldn't use them on anything longer than 14.25"....even then I'd probably keep to 14" / 14.1" WB on them. A few others have noted how nice the feel on short WB decks.

What's funny is all the talk about this truck, that truck and WB when it seems the average for everyone is hovering around 17.5" axle to axle WB.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: weedgod94 on January 23, 2020, 06:34:46 PM
17.5" axle to axle WB.
this is the blessed measurement
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on January 23, 2020, 06:57:51 PM
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Thanks for the feedback gents, I might even Franken a pair of 5.6 raws and 5.6 v-lights with the hollow kingpin to shave weight, but keep the cast baseplate for the pop and wheelbase sake. I’m hyped I’m getting them today at 6pm central. AWAKE.
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Lol wut? you're buying v-lights becuase of weight/kingpin, but keep cast plates? so you want to hammer both kingpins out and put the hollow one in the cast plates?
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I think he's talking about doing this because the V-Lights also have a hollow axel? I was wondering too before realizing it has a hollow kingpin and axel. I did a similar thing with my Thunders, used an old cast baseplate with titanium axel 149's, before they started making the Team Titanium or whatever that comes stock with cast baseplate.

Hey Sadnocomply, if you buy both trucks to frankenstein, buy Thunder hollow replacement kingpins to put in the cast baseplate rather than hammering out the ones from the forged baseplate. Hammering out hollow kingpins is very difficult and can "mushroom" the head of it, making it harder to remove all the way and also rendering it useless for re-use. Probably weakens it too. Installing a brand new hollow kingpin is a better bet!
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two machine shops around here helped me with kingpin replacement. They threw it up on the press and even glued the old gk down for me.

I was a machinist before drugs happened and my 3rd? major head injury. So maybe they just pity me but they do it for free.

My auntie Sally was a machinist too. Rip Sally i luv you i miss you.
If you wanna press out a hollow kingpin you could put an acorn/cap nut on it.
Any hardware store should stock it, 3/8"-24
https://www.mcmaster.com/91875a155


Machine shop.. spindle oil is made for high speed bearings..
You want thinner for cold weather, ISO 2 or ISO 5.
ISO 10 is thickest and I'm guessing it's around the viscosity of most bearing lubes.


edit: lol. brain fart..
As an Indy dude the Venture casts look interesting to me.
Height and wb offset is similar to Indy forged?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 24, 2020, 02:44:19 AM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indy’s and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but I’m wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but don’t know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
[close]

I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause I’m kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is what’s kinda getting me shook.
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If you are coming from Indy you'll feel the change for sure - I'm riding them on a short (14") WB so I don't notice the extra length and they're already compensating for what I normally feel comfy on. I did NOT like them on a long WB and wouldn't use them on anything longer than 14.25"....even then I'd probably keep to 14" / 14.1" WB on them. A few others have noted how nice the feel on short WB decks.

What's funny is all the talk about this truck, that truck and WB when it seems the average for everyone is hovering around 17.5" axle to axle WB.

completely agree. shit gets weird with ventures and a 14.38 wb.

logged all my axle to axle wb findings and found 17.5-17.63 was the best all round a2a wb for me at least. once i hit 17.75+, things felt boaty. 17.38 felt short for my long ass legs but would be the lowest id work with. keeping my cast ventures around for that blue moon when i pick up a 14.125 wb to give me a 17.5 a2a off the rip.

ventures really give me the confidence to try deck wheelbases that scare me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Dad you're embarrassing me on January 25, 2020, 01:38:29 PM
Saw a dude shredding the bowl last night on ventures. He had them wobble loose with no washers. Said he’d just swapped from Indies and was loving them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on January 25, 2020, 06:45:58 PM
Saw a dude shredding the bowl last night on ventures. He had them wobble loose with no washers. Said he’d just swapped from Indies and was loving them.

This is the kinda info I'm here for
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on January 25, 2020, 06:48:51 PM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indy’s and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but I’m wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but don’t know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause I’m kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is what’s kinda getting me shook.
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If you are coming from Indy you'll feel the change for sure - I'm riding them on a short (14") WB so I don't notice the extra length and they're already compensating for what I normally feel comfy on. I did NOT like them on a long WB and wouldn't use them on anything longer than 14.25"....even then I'd probably keep to 14" / 14.1" WB on them. A few others have noted how nice the feel on short WB decks.

What's funny is all the talk about this truck, that truck and WB when it seems the average for everyone is hovering around 17.5" axle to axle WB.
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completely agree. shit gets weird with ventures and a 14.38 wb.

logged all my axle to axle wb findings and found 17.5-17.63 was the best all round a2a wb for me at least. once i hit 17.75+, things felt boaty. 17.38 felt short for my long ass legs but would be the lowest id work with. keeping my cast ventures around for that blue moon when i pick up a 14.125 wb to give me a 17.5 a2a off the rip.

ventures really give me the confidence to try deck wheelbases that scare me
what was wrong with the 14.38wb and cast ventures? Isn’t that withn your 17.63” a2a range? Messed up manual point? Boaty? Just curious, not extra stability? Like a longer wb on indys feels how different than a short wb on venture even though they even out. Fingers of flat.. kick steepness.. that variable removes if possible even tho it’s not
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 25, 2020, 07:37:48 PM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indy’s and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but I’m wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but don’t know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause I’m kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is what’s kinda getting me shook.
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If you are coming from Indy you'll feel the change for sure - I'm riding them on a short (14") WB so I don't notice the extra length and they're already compensating for what I normally feel comfy on. I did NOT like them on a long WB and wouldn't use them on anything longer than 14.25"....even then I'd probably keep to 14" / 14.1" WB on them. A few others have noted how nice the feel on short WB decks.

What's funny is all the talk about this truck, that truck and WB when it seems the average for everyone is hovering around 17.5" axle to axle WB.
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completely agree. shit gets weird with ventures and a 14.38 wb.

logged all my axle to axle wb findings and found 17.5-17.63 was the best all round a2a wb for me at least. once i hit 17.75+, things felt boaty. 17.38 felt short for my long ass legs but would be the lowest id work with. keeping my cast ventures around for that blue moon when i pick up a 14.125 wb to give me a 17.5 a2a off the rip.

ventures really give me the confidence to try deck wheelbases that scare me
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what was wrong with the 14.38wb and cast ventures? Isn’t that withn your 17.63” a2a range? Messed up manual point? Boaty? Just curious, not extra stability? Like a longer wb on indys feels how different than a short wb on venture even though they even out. Fingers of flat.. kick steepness.. that variable removes if possible even tho it’s not

if i remember correctly, the measurement i was getting was 17.75 from axle to axle, not 17.63.
i marked venture 6.1s as adding 3.375 to the wb. i found that with the weight and geometry of the truck, i lost the snappy pop feel past a 14.25 deck wb. i also lost my manual point and any trick i popped had to really be snapped down to get average results. rotational tricks moved noticeably slower, like turning a boat. venture stability has been a non factor to me ever since i put a deckside barrel bushing in a thunder.

i know the measurement could be off by human error but it really felt like the trucks were just a little further back. that on top of the weight difference between 6.1s and what im used to didnt work on a 14.38. luckily for me i didnt have to bear with something i know i didnt like. threw the ventures on a 14 wb, something i would honestly never step on outside of experimentation, and i honestly could have skated the deck to the ground if i was desperate. then tried them on a beat up 14.25, razortailed to shit, and could still get shit off like it had life in it. put my thunder forged on the 14.38 and it was back to its the responsive self. ventures have shined for me on the >14.25 deck wheelbases. not saying bigger wheelbases and ventures cant work for anyone else of course, its just not agile enough for my liking.

"Like a longer wb on indys feels how different than a short wb on venture even though they even out."

i think i know exactly what your saying but ill put my point out there to clarify. there are a ton of ways to get a 17.5 axle to axle wb on a deck. if the truck is literally not the same truck, there will be no way to completely get one truck to behave like another. every truck will have different characteristics and to try and compare them exactly to another will drive you crazy. with the amount of outside factors, i can firmly say its impossible without a fuckton of constants and computer measurements. youd be better off leaving that to someone with the time and resources to do it, i.e. the professor. it did so much to help my madness by finding my truck of choice and tweaking the small issues when possible. take the journey to find that truck if you havent already. cost me $260 short term, but at least i kicked the urge to try every new truck and just progress on one.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 25, 2020, 08:26:56 PM
damn noticing so many more people riding ventures!

venture and ace is the way. But most people will not like the change and they will think can i trade these for thunders if i hit up dlx? Hmmm.

I been hyped on my homies thunder teams today. I cleaned them up nice and I was doing long g turns before the rain started. They're so low and i got them on a flat 8.5. I dont know what bearings he got. They're odd. They got like a little step on the side of the inner race. And the outside looks blackened. Same black cages as reds. I was thinking maybe neal? There nice and fast.

Tons of fun easy manny set up.

Wheel bite is crazy though. Dude has black bones meds no washers. I dont like bones bottoms anymore.

I turned 21 on thunder teams for 7.5-7.75 i dont remember getting that much wheel bite at all. thats the truck i rode most of my life. I lost the green bushings i shaved down on like the 3rd set.

Im more stoked on ace and venture today though. And indy 139s

I am so stoned out f my mind rn i dont remember writing this. My whole body is goose bumps listening to the Melvins. Petting my cats

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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 25, 2020, 09:13:36 PM
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17.5" axle to axle WB.
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this is the blessed measurement


im try
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17.5" axle to axle WB.
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this is the blessed measurement

im tryna get closer to 17.
I have never landed a switch tre. This is my year.

Also nollie crooks. If i can nollie crook the flat bar by my 42 birthday ill freak.

I haven't nollied into a front truck trick since 2002. Hmmm mini ramp and crurbs aside

This is my year. Im going to try and jump down something. Im scared of broken tails and alligator bite.

That shit sucks.

The ledge is my conduit to nirvana
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fang on February 01, 2020, 05:36:42 PM
Just bought some Venture low 5.25s. Rode venture during bpsw era and during the stage 9 Indys because I hated those. As previously stated, my best skating (trick wise) was on ventures, yet I always liked the feel of Indys. Decided as my aging decline continues, I want to have that great venture stability under my bad ankles. And enjoy flip tricks as well. Pretty excited , once my ankle heals.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: passtheish on February 01, 2020, 08:21:12 PM
Shiiiiit I wish I skated 8 or 8.75 because the new raw kaders fuckin SMACK.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6vt7GhDWQf/?igshid=yng86vgbwrwd

I hope venture is on the come up for real. They been around longer than I’ve been born I think lol but I never see them at a sesh or at the park just indy/ace or thunder bros. Company seems ill to me, and the hangers are HARD  ;D

I got the 6.1 version of these, First pair of Ventures ever, loving them so far
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 01, 2020, 10:01:46 PM
repost from the truck thread but the last part fits here

my theory with venture's resurgence is the stark contrast to indy. independent is the most popular truck company with diehard fans/customers. give those customers reasons to try other shit (moving to china, pros leaving, nhs spongebob collabs) and brand loyalty loosens up a bit. give those same customers trucks that are bizarro indys performance wise, pick up bobby fucking worrest, and tell those people that they are "awake" from their purchase? dlx did a marketing masterclass with perfect timing

unsurprisingly, its another dlx company that i fuck with. its a shame i like venture as a company more than how the trucks feel, but i will always back truck cos that go against the "fuck the rest" circlejerk.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 02, 2020, 05:57:25 AM
Just bought some Venture low 5.25s. Rode venture during bpsw era and during the stage 9 Indys because I hated those. As previously stated, my best skating (trick wise) was on ventures, yet I always liked the feel of Indys. Decided as my aging decline continues, I want to have that great venture stability under my bad ankles. And enjoy flip tricks as well. Pretty excited , once my ankle heals.

Cast or hollow? Kinda wish they made some hollow/cast plate combo. 5.25 lo’s the best tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fang on February 02, 2020, 06:59:24 AM
Cast. I'm psyched. Rehabbing my foot so hopefully a few weeks. Also, the "quick pop response" of a low truck, is something I've missed.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: passtheish on February 02, 2020, 10:42:02 AM
repost from the truck thread but the last part fits here

my theory with venture's resurgence is the stark contrast to indy. independent is the most popular truck company with diehard fans/customers. give those customers reasons to try other shit (moving to china, pros leaving, nhs spongebob collabs) and brand loyalty loosens up a bit. give those same customers trucks that are bizarro indys performance wise, pick up bobby fucking worrest, and tell those people that they are "awake" from their purchase? dlx did a marketing masterclass with perfect timing

unsurprisingly, its another dlx company that i fuck with. its a shame i like venture as a company more than how the trucks feel, but i will always back truck cos that go against the "fuck the rest" circlejerk.

Agreed, that's how they got me to switch to them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 02, 2020, 12:39:21 PM
Cast. I'm psyched. Rehabbing my foot so hopefully a few weeks. Also, the "quick pop response" of a low truck, is something I've missed.

Regular cast trucks are the best, I need to quit tempting myself on bullshit. Set it and forget it. Easier said than done, but.....putting trucks on and not fucking with them is also pretty lazy so imma try and use my laziness to my advantage.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ballintoohard on February 02, 2020, 07:48:54 PM
The fact that they don't ship with a flat washer and instead use a big curved one that digs into the hanger just shows how dogshit the engineering is. I like them in a straight line, but I shouldn't have to turn my setup into a science experiment to get it to turn how I want. Don't have to do it with any other brand, not even bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Skart on February 02, 2020, 07:55:39 PM
Post a clip of you turning how you want

Guaranteed goofy and unnecessary
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on February 02, 2020, 09:33:47 PM
Found him...
https://youtu.be/4sxNcgA5LpI
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: white guy in a durag on February 02, 2020, 10:42:12 PM
Ace riders be like
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 03, 2020, 01:05:54 AM
I have been a strict Indy pawn for over a decade now. Been thinking about getting a set of ventures lately to try out though. I had a set yeeeaaaars ago and remembered them being alright but it's been so long that I'm curious to try em again, I kinda forget how it felt to skate them.
Been on the fence about it but earlier today I was out running errands and I had an Indy shirt and some kid said to me as I was waiting in line at the store "dude isn't that some sort of Nazi logo or something?" and just like that I thought "welp that's a sign, time to give the ventures a try". Going to go buy a set tomorrow. Will report back how I like em. After skating Indy for so long I'm curious to see how this goes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 03, 2020, 05:53:42 AM
Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Hi - anyone know how much it shifts the WB?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 03, 2020, 08:26:43 AM
Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Hi - anyone know how much it shifts the WB?

The perfect amount
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Post by: rocklobster on February 03, 2020, 08:55:56 AM
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The perfect amount

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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 03, 2020, 11:09:07 AM
Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Hi - anyone know how much it shifts the WB?

I think V-hollows have forged plates which would make them about +3.5 according to most, though when I measured mine it was just a hair under 3.5, more like 3.4something.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Agnarnomous on February 03, 2020, 12:02:01 PM
Shiiiiit I wish I skated 8 or 8.75 because the new raw kaders fuckin SMACK.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6vt7GhDWQf/?igshid=yng86vgbwrwd

I hope venture is on the come up for real. They been around longer than I’ve been born I think lol but I never see them at a sesh or at the park just indy/ace or thunder bros. Company seems ill to me, and the hangers are HARD  ;D

Ventures have only really fallen out of relevance in the past 10 years or so. They were top dogs for a while. At least for street dudes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 03, 2020, 06:11:47 PM
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Shiiiiit I wish I skated 8 or 8.75 because the new raw kaders fuckin SMACK.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6vt7GhDWQf/?igshid=yng86vgbwrwd

I hope venture is on the come up for real. They been around longer than I’ve been born I think lol but I never see them at a sesh or at the park just indy/ace or thunder bros. Company seems ill to me, and the hangers are HARD  ;D
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Ventures have only really fallen out of relevance in the past 10 years or so. They were top dogs for a while. At least for street dudes.

idk. Thunder started with Jesse Martinez. Had natas too i think.

It all came from indy anyway. Ace is like the same story
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TheLowerBack on February 03, 2020, 07:56:07 PM
Does anyone know which risers fit with no overhang?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 03, 2020, 08:08:23 PM
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Shiiiiit I wish I skated 8 or 8.75 because the new raw kaders fuckin SMACK.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6vt7GhDWQf/?igshid=yng86vgbwrwd

I hope venture is on the come up for real. They been around longer than I’ve been born I think lol but I never see them at a sesh or at the park just indy/ace or thunder bros. Company seems ill to me, and the hangers are HARD  ;D
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Ventures have only really fallen out of relevance in the past 10 years or so. They were top dogs for a while. At least for street dudes.
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idk. Thunder started with Jesse Martinez. Had natas too i think.

It all came from indy anyway. Ace is like the same story

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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on February 03, 2020, 08:30:56 PM
Does anyone know which risers fit with no overhang?
🍀 lucky always fit pretty much flush.
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Post by: TheLowerBack on February 03, 2020, 08:47:47 PM
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🍀 lucky always fit pretty much flush.
Damn, is that still a thing?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on February 03, 2020, 08:57:11 PM
https://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/venture-adventures-of-an-aluminum-upstart/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oldbummer on February 03, 2020, 09:13:23 PM
Does anyone know which risers fit with no overhang?

Thunder risers are slotted and the exact size as the footprint of the baseplate.  Indy risers have holes, and line up perfectly on the picot cup end of the baseplate, baseplate overhangs a little on the other side.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 03, 2020, 11:53:38 PM
Does anyone know which risers fit with no overhang?
krooked risers have fit my thunders, ventures, aces, and indys.

im pretty sure slotted risers have the best compatibility for every truck
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 04, 2020, 12:28:24 AM
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Officially traded the cross for the V, well, for now at least. Snagged these earlier. Swapped the stock bushings out right off the bat for some black aftermarkets I had laying around. Haven't gotten a chance to give em a test run yet, probably won't for a few days actually, gonna be a bit busy. Will report back how I like em when I get a chance to test em out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Agnarnomous on February 04, 2020, 05:16:09 AM
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Shiiiiit I wish I skated 8 or 8.75 because the new raw kaders fuckin SMACK.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6vt7GhDWQf/?igshid=yng86vgbwrwd

I hope venture is on the come up for real. They been around longer than I’ve been born I think lol but I never see them at a sesh or at the park just indy/ace or thunder bros. Company seems ill to me, and the hangers are HARD  ;D
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Ventures have only really fallen out of relevance in the past 10 years or so. They were top dogs for a while. At least for street dudes.
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idk. Thunder started with Jesse Martinez. Had natas too i think.

It all came from indy anyway. Ace is like the same story
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https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/magazine/september-1986/?tmpl=component

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Sick fucking find dude.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Agnarnomous on February 04, 2020, 05:19:26 AM
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krooked risers have fit my thunders, ventures, aces, and indys.

im pretty sure slotted risers have the best compatibility for every truck

I get the soft rubber ones and cut them to be juuuuuuuust slightly shorter than my baseplates. So they don't grip on nose/tail slides. I also like that you can squish them a little, making them a little shorter. Idk, I've got a touch of ocd.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 04, 2020, 06:18:54 AM
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Shiiiiit I wish I skated 8 or 8.75 because the new raw kaders fuckin SMACK.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6vt7GhDWQf/?igshid=yng86vgbwrwd

I hope venture is on the come up for real. They been around longer than I’ve been born I think lol but I never see them at a sesh or at the park just indy/ace or thunder bros. Company seems ill to me, and the hangers are HARD  ;D
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Ventures have only really fallen out of relevance in the past 10 years or so. They were top dogs for a while. At least for street dudes.
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idk. Thunder started with Jesse Martinez. Had natas too i think.

It all came from indy anyway. Ace is like the same story
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https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/magazine/september-1986/?tmpl=component

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(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/39/a9/cf/39a9cff8cc1d702492fcf3847f18d127.jpg)

(https://noneco.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/gonzventurechrome.jpg)

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i just barely remember this. Nice dig. That was the year i gave up my bike pretty much
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fang on February 05, 2020, 05:56:23 AM
P.s. they should be making the original Awake logo on shirts, hoodies, hats, beanies, sweatpants, patches, fanny packs, socks, etc. At all times
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on February 05, 2020, 06:23:30 AM
P.s. they should be making the original Awake logo on shirts, hoodies, hats, beanies, sweatpants, patches, fanny packs, socks, etc. At all times
I agree but snowflakes here were dissing it. Apparently sounds too much like Woke for them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 05, 2020, 08:38:24 AM
https://youtu.be/aUlCl2a4zuw
Skate TV Venture factory.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 05, 2020, 08:46:52 AM
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P.s. they should be making the original Awake logo on shirts, hoodies, hats, beanies, sweatpants, patches, fanny packs, socks, etc. At all times
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I agree but snowflakes here were dissing it. Apparently sounds too much like Woke for them.

Venture, ahead of it's time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: passtheish on February 05, 2020, 10:40:17 AM
just got the Kader 6.1s and love them so far, but thinking of switching the bushings.
Any recommendations on what bushings to get
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 05, 2020, 10:43:52 AM
just got the Kader 6.1s and love them so far, but thinking of switching the bushings.
Any recommendations on what bushings to get
What don't you love about them stock?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 05, 2020, 08:41:43 PM
https://youtu.be/aUlCl2a4zuw
Skate TV Venture factory.

i loved this show. Venture-pendent

Skated the birds nest for a few mins. Felt good. I can still do figure 8s switch carving np.
Grinding pool coping is ok. Ace is better for that same with indy.

The stock barrels really really dont like cold weather. Bones tops are the move for cold weather. I was falling off pushing switch with the frozen stock.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 05, 2020, 11:01:43 PM
Post a clip of you turning how you want

Guaranteed goofy and unnecessary

So good
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 08, 2020, 01:44:44 PM
Venture has a Thrasher collab dropping soon. Trucks and hoodies.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: passtheish on February 08, 2020, 02:46:11 PM
Venture has a Thrasher collab dropping soon. Trucks and hoodies.

Hyped for this to come out , it looks sick
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 08, 2020, 03:30:50 PM
Venture has a Thrasher collab dropping soon. Trucks and hoodies.
so what does it look like?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 08, 2020, 04:08:50 PM
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Venture has a Thrasher collab dropping soon. Trucks and hoodies.
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so what does it look like?
Thrasher logo, the A is replaced with Venture V wing logo. Awake written underneath. Wasn’t able to get a photo.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on February 08, 2020, 05:14:56 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8UIOLehigS/?igshid=iasecme5duw
I just want titaniums in 5.6, these need to be available asap
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 08, 2020, 05:26:47 PM
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Venture has a Thrasher collab dropping soon. Trucks and hoodies.
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so what does it look like?
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Thrasher logo, the A is replaced with Venture V wing logo. Awake written underneath. Wasn’t able to get a photo.
Thank you for this info..I need this hoodie in my life.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fang on February 08, 2020, 06:19:07 PM
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Venture has a Thrasher collab dropping soon. Trucks and hoodies.
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so what does it look like?
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Thrasher logo, the A is replaced with Venture V wing logo. Awake written underneath. Wasn’t able to get a photo.

Sounds good
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 09, 2020, 10:35:42 AM
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Venture has a Thrasher collab dropping soon. Trucks and hoodies.
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so what does it look like?
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Thrasher logo, the A is replaced with Venture V wing logo. Awake written underneath. Wasn’t able to get a photo.

that sounds pretty cool.

I would use chrome fill.
Blue sky gradient
Put a the golden gate buildings trees etc in the ctr as black skyline
Maybe put a little details in the earth side gradient

Inside outline to raise up the fill

Piano key drop down single point perspective 3d

The red V logo of put it on top with drips maybe little tiger striping like the piece got capped by venture.

awake font catching the drips turning into an outer of the same color

All 3d points in awake to the fill horizon line. Catching the drips waterfalling the negative space in awake

Put the wings on both ends like extending the piece maybe

Or put them on the V follow the throw up look


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 11, 2020, 09:09:49 AM
Had my first actual sesh with them yesterday. Loved em. Turning felt so different from the Indys but I got used to it pretty quickly. Liked the difference in wheelbase too and how popping the tail feels a tad bit heavier and delayed with these, makes the tail feel more solid especially since the shape I like has a flatter tail, Indys made hitting the tail feel too light and too quick and flimsy for me sometimes. With Indys sometimes it was like I was skating a deck with an already cracked tail. Also relearned front 5-0s too, haven't done one of those in a couple years.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 11, 2020, 09:37:23 AM
Had my first actual sesh with them yesterday. Loved em. Turning felt so different from the Indys but I got used to it pretty quickly. Liked the difference in wheelbase too and how popping the tail feels a tad bit heavier and delayed with these, makes the tail feel more solid especially since the shape I like has a flatter tail, Indys made hitting the tail feel too light and too quick and flimsy for me sometimes. With Indys sometimes it was like I was skating a deck with an already cracked tail. Also relearned front 5-0s too, haven't done one of those in a couple years.

Which ones were you riding? Kind of regret getting too many of the Hollow Light variants since they extend the WB out drastically (3.5"), would have liked a smaller WB extension like Thunders with the baseplate of Indy / Venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 11, 2020, 09:54:46 PM
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Had my first actual sesh with them yesterday. Loved em. Turning felt so different from the Indys but I got used to it pretty quickly. Liked the difference in wheelbase too and how popping the tail feels a tad bit heavier and delayed with these, makes the tail feel more solid especially since the shape I like has a flatter tail, Indys made hitting the tail feel too light and too quick and flimsy for me sometimes. With Indys sometimes it was like I was skating a deck with an already cracked tail. Also relearned front 5-0s too, haven't done one of those in a couple years.
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Which ones were you riding? Kind of regret getting too many of the Hollow Light variants since they extend the WB out drastically (3.5"), would have liked a smaller WB extension like Thunders with the baseplate of Indy / Venture.
Skating the 5.8 worrest models
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on February 13, 2020, 01:33:47 PM
so, hope this is the right thread, since i'm new to this...

current setups – got two, since work + wife are in different countrys – are 8.25 FA decks with indys, one is with 149 forged hollows (on a 14.8 wb) and i'm really happy with that, the other got 144 standards on it (on a 14.12). i really prefer the lower height and lighter weight of the forged hollows, get quite a bit of ghost pop on the standard ones just after switching boards and it's just more work to get on ledges. maybe this isn't just because of the weight/height, but also because the standard ones are on a much shorter wheelbase, but i really don't have any knowledge regarding this, just feeling.
since i heard a ton of good stuff about venture his, i'm thinking about trying their hollow ones, i never got the chance to really try them (almost all thunder around here), so any input is much appreciated. especially since i'm planning on going down in board sizes (to 8.12 or 8 ) and the shapes i like have some short wheelbases. also, ventures are a lot cheaper in europe...

thanks already. if this is the wrong thread, just tell me to f_ off and i'll head out.

edit: since the wb-thing seemed fishy to me, i measured it for the first time myself, not trusting the shop measurements anymore and they are both 14.12.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on February 13, 2020, 05:27:19 PM
I would say anything 14-14.38 would be a good wheelbase with venture depending on preference of course. Any higher than that would be crazy long! I have every model of venture except the hollows but I’m sure they are great. Been banging raw ventures and titaniums in my 2 current setups. I’m also on 8-8.25 like you so venture is great trust me :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 13, 2020, 06:23:59 PM
I recommend people go more wood than aluminum though. Unless you're going low.

I have a new 8.25 I'm landing on my rail a bunch. Was happening with impossible and Tre at first but I'm used to the truck change there. Kickflips switch flips and fs shuv flips are punishing my feets.
When I was on an 38 and an 8.5 on the 5.6 when I landed on my rail it was easier to put down or it would automatically snap down on its own.

Because of the lack of wheel bite with this truck more wood is good. I can ride the 55 classic with the truck loose all the way with the stock purple barrels in and they fine.

Thinking I maybe going to ad more speed rings to protect the axles from all this primo slide bull shit.

I'm going to die on black top soon watch. I'm going to kick flip up a curb because that's when its happened most at high speed and that will be it.

Knock all my chicklets out again on a curb.

Next board I'm gonna look for something really classy to eat shit on.

I want to try Marc's stuff but I suck at new mail. I miss send the money get the boards days.

I wonder what happens to the rest of my checks. There's no way that I'm spending 800 a month.

They want me buying videogames and junk food so when the system reaches out to snatch me up I can't bomb a hill and wave good bye.

Or the Fuckers just jealous I can still flip my board and go anywhere I want any time or some shit.

Total fucking kook working for the system definitely not awake.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on February 14, 2020, 01:31:34 AM
I would say anything 14-14.38 would be a good wheelbase with venture depending on preference of course. Any higher than that would be crazy long! I have every model of venture except the hollows but I’m sure they are great. Been banging raw ventures and titaniums in my 2 current setups. I’m also on 8-8.25 like you so venture is great trust me :)

thanks for the input. do you go with 5.2s or 5.6s under a 8-8.25? or do you have both?
leaning towards trying deck flush with/wider than trucks these days...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cricketclub on February 14, 2020, 08:17:55 AM
I set up my 5.2 lows last night and loved them! I was in a rush so didn't switch to my new 50mm's but I will for the next sessions for sure to prevent wheelbite (skated on some mid life 52's last night so probably not too much difference).

I was on indy high's before.

There is definitely a trade off between the two. Less turning and better flip tricks. I think I'm okay with that. I wouldn't really wanna bomb a parking garage with these just yet. The manual point is amaaaaaazing on these.

I need to get an 8" deck for these, right now I'm skating an 8.25 on them and it's a little weird but definitely manageable.

Also the wheelbase difference worked out well. I'm on the same deck that I had with my indy's (deck has a 14.25 WB) and it was just fine. Seemed right. I don't think I will look for 14" WB's like I thought I would want to.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on February 14, 2020, 08:19:26 AM
Wellllll, guess I’m buying lows for the first time since 2003.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cricketclub on February 14, 2020, 08:21:26 AM
Wellllll, guess I’m buying lows for the first time since 2003.

Hahaha literally I just told my friends it felt like 2003! It's a great feeling. Be prepared for less turn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 14, 2020, 08:27:49 AM
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Wellllll, guess I’m buying lows for the first time since 2003.
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Hahaha literally I just told my friends it felt like 2003! It's a great feeling. Be prepared for less turn.

Kind of regret getting 2 pairs in forged plates V- Hollow since they extend the WB so much (3.5") versus Thunders. I like the WB of Thunders at 3.25" but I'm not a fan of the baseplate position; I suck at nose / tailslides and need all the help I can get with them. I have a pair of 5.8 I got off the Zumiez sale in cast plates, now I'm looking to add a 5.2 or 5.6 to that collection.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on February 14, 2020, 08:38:46 AM
What are the pros cons of low v high?

I gotta stop coming to this thread. I already keep going back and forth with standard or Ti etc. so it’s delaying my purchase ha. Leaning towards standard hi’s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 14, 2020, 08:44:11 AM
I set up my 5.2 lows last night and loved them! I was in a rush so didn't switch to my new 50mm's but I will for the next sessions for sure to prevent wheelbite (skated on some mid life 52's last night so probably not too much difference).

I was on indy high's before.

There is definitely a trade off between the two. Less turning and better flip tricks. I think I'm okay with that. I wouldn't really wanna bomb a parking garage with these just yet. The manual point is amaaaaaazing on these.

I need to get an 8" deck for these, right now I'm skating an 8.25 on them and it's a little weird but definitely manageable.

Also the wheelbase difference worked out well. I'm on the same deck that I had with my indy's (deck has a 14.25 WB) and it was just fine. Seemed right. I don't think I will look for 14" WB's like I thought I would want to.

5.25 lo’s are the truth. Mine are forged hollows, but I’m going to switch a cast plate on. You are limited,  by the wheel diameter, to the depth of your turning, but it’s not as bad as I would have thought. Flip tricks feel correct. If you want to make them more squirrely, bones hardcore bushings work well, or at least the top flat washer. I skate mine with wheels 52 to 49 ish, and that’s the big trade off. You can go ditch riding or crusty street hill bombing, but it’s more of an adventure for sure.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on February 14, 2020, 09:37:16 AM
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I would say anything 14-14.38 would be a good wheelbase with venture depending on preference of course. Any higher than that would be crazy long! I have every model of venture except the hollows but I’m sure they are great. Been banging raw ventures and titaniums in my 2 current setups. I’m also on 8-8.25 like you so venture is great trust me :)
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thanks for the input. do you go with 5.2s or 5.6s under a 8-8.25? or do you have both?
leaning towards trying deck flush with/wider than trucks these days...
I have 5.2 titaniums on a 8.1, 5.6 raw on a 8.25 and I even have a 5.8 v light on a 8.3 so I literally have all spectrums covered. Great trucks for everything! I skate hills, parks, street, bowls, you name it. I also try not to mess with stock bushings and I ride factory tightness for a couple weeks and my ventures seem to jiggle loosely just fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 14, 2020, 09:48:29 AM
What are the pros cons of low v high?

I gotta stop coming to this thread. I already keep going back and forth with standard or Ti etc. so it’s delaying my purchase ha. Leaning towards standard hi’s

To me it depends on how you pop. I'm heavy on my back foot and pop down hard on my tail; having low trucks makes me feel like my tail is bottoming out too early, if that makes any sense. Lows are at 48.3mm, Highs are at 53.5mm. I think Thunders 147 are also around 49-50mm, Tactics doesn't have a pair for sale so the height isn't listed.

Even if you go Low you can always correct this with risers, so I feel it gives you slightly more versatility.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on February 14, 2020, 09:59:53 AM
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Wellllll, guess I’m buying lows for the first time since 2003.
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Hahaha literally I just told my friends it felt like 2003! It's a great feeling. Be prepared for less turn.
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Kind of regret getting 2 pairs in forged plates V- Hollow since they extend the WB so much (3.5") versus Thunders. I like the WB of Thunders at 3.25" but I'm not a fan of the baseplate position; I suck at nose / tailslides and need all the help I can get with them. I have a pair of 5.8 I got off the Zumiez sale in cast plates, now I'm looking to add a 5.2 or 5.6 to that collection.
It's REALLY not that bad. I have regular venture highs on my big board and hollows on my other one, I can't tell a difference.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on February 15, 2020, 03:13:01 AM
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What are the pros cons of low v high?

I gotta stop coming to this thread. I already keep going back and forth with standard or Ti etc. so it’s delaying my purchase ha. Leaning towards standard hi’s
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To me it depends on how you pop. I'm heavy on my back foot and pop down hard on my tail; having low trucks makes me feel like my tail is bottoming out too early, if that makes any sense. Lows are at 48.3mm, Highs are at 53.5mm. I think Thunders 147 are also around 49-50mm, Tactics doesn't have a pair for sale so the height isn't listed.

Even if you go Low you can always correct this with risers, so I feel it gives you slightly more versatility.

thats excactly how i felt when i switched from indys to my old destructos (49mm) just for fun, like just pushing into the ground with my back foot and the nose not coming up enough.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on February 15, 2020, 09:17:52 AM
Which ventures have the least amount of impact to wheel base or are they all the same?
Just curious
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 15, 2020, 09:58:38 AM
Which ventures have the least amount of impact to wheel base or are they all the same?
Just curious
think the cast only like + ~3.25”   Forged get the most
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on February 15, 2020, 10:56:30 AM
Alright, currently on thunders so I wouldn’t want to deviate too far front that wheelbase
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 15, 2020, 11:01:34 AM
Alright, currently on thunders so I wouldn’t want to deviate too far front that wheelbase
check the wb for your trucks thread. Pretty damn close close depending on standard or forged

Thunder 149 team edition (8.5" axle):
+ 3.1875"
Thunder Hollow Lights 151 (8.75" axle):
+ 3.25"
Venture standard 5.8 (8.5" axle):
+ 3.25"
Venture 6.1 (8.75" axle):
+ 3.125”
Venture Lights 5.8 (8.5" axle):
+ 3.5"
Venture 5.8 Titanium (8.5" axle):
+ 3.4375
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on February 15, 2020, 01:28:21 PM
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Alright, currently on thunders so I wouldn’t want to deviate too far front that wheelbase
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check the wb for your trucks thread. Pretty damn close close depending on standard or forged

Thunder 149 team edition (8.5" axle):
+ 3.1875"
Thunder Hollow Lights 151 (8.75" axle):
+ 3.25"
Venture standard 5.8 (8.5" axle):
+ 3.25"
Venture 6.1 (8.75" axle):
+ 3.125”
Venture Lights 5.8 (8.5" axle):
+ 3.5"
Venture 5.8 Titanium (8.5" axle):
+ 3.4375
You sir are the man.
I’m currently on the 8.25 team hollows but I assume there’s not too much variation.
So if I’m on the team hollows now the standards shouldn’t be too bad.
I have a feeling my tax refund is going to justify me trying a pair
Thank you
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Smartass on February 15, 2020, 03:20:37 PM
For the folks moving from Indy to Venutre, definitely recommend getting some Riptide pivot cups. I skated mine stock for a while and they still felt good but the Turn didn't feel that good. Switching to the riptides made them turn so much better.

Did another comparison with my buddies who are stock vs mine and he agrees that the Riptides make a big difference.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 15, 2020, 03:45:44 PM
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Alright, currently on thunders so I wouldn’t want to deviate too far front that wheelbase
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check the wb for your trucks thread. Pretty damn close close depending on standard or forged

Thunder 149 team edition (8.5" axle):
+ 3.1875"
Thunder Hollow Lights 151 (8.75" axle):
+ 3.25"
Venture standard 5.8 (8.5" axle):
+ 3.25"
Venture 6.1 (8.75" axle):
+ 3.125”
Venture Lights 5.8 (8.5" axle):
+ 3.5"
Venture 5.8 Titanium (8.5" axle):
+ 3.4375
i got 3.325" for the 6.1s might want to recheck that one
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 15, 2020, 04:10:08 PM
Yeah pulled that from wb thread. Haven’t measured myself
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Washed Up Guy on February 17, 2020, 07:57:21 PM
Do T tools line up nicely with the nuts yet?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on February 17, 2020, 09:10:49 PM
if you use the ones without plastic frame around, like those stripped down slimmer all metal ones, it can work. but unit tools are still too thick for example.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 18, 2020, 07:40:09 AM
Do T tools line up nicely with the nuts yet?

I use the indy tool. Still gotta be careful
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 18, 2020, 07:40:57 AM
All I have is the unit.
two of them.

Well not sure how i'll get these 6.1's on then
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 18, 2020, 07:44:29 AM
All I have is the unit.
two of them.

Well not sure how i'll get these 6.1's on then

adjustable wrench
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 18, 2020, 07:47:37 AM
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All I have is the unit.
two of them.

Well not sure how i'll get these 6.1's on then
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adjustable wrench
yeah i'm sure i got something around the workbench. inconvenient tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 18, 2020, 07:50:33 AM
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All I have is the unit.
two of them.

Well not sure how i'll get these 6.1's on then
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adjustable wrench
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yeah i'm sure i got something around the workbench. inconvenient tho.

agreed
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Smartass on February 18, 2020, 07:52:47 AM
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All I have is the unit.
two of them.

Well not sure how i'll get these 6.1's on then
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adjustable wrench
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yeah i'm sure i got something around the workbench. inconvenient tho.

What I did back in the. day with Venture and the Unit T tool was angle the tool on to the nut it grabs it pretty well and then just use a screw driver to screw it in vs turning the tool.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on February 18, 2020, 08:03:12 AM
If you’re struggling that hard, you can always take the hangar off and just mount the baseplate. I had to do that when I bought those stupid “light” shortys with the tiny nuts.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 18, 2020, 12:44:41 PM
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Do T tools line up nicely with the nuts yet?
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I use the indy tool. Still gotta be careful
I have the indy tool too. It doesn't get along very well with the outer most bolts on my new Venture 5.8's. But my 360 flips are loving them. I will take the trade off.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on February 19, 2020, 09:12:07 AM
Silver makes a good skate tool that works pretty efficiently with Ventures.

Does anyone have recommendations on pivot cups that fit Ventures properly?  I'm running 5.8 TI's
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 19, 2020, 10:15:37 AM
Silver makes a good skate tool that works pretty efficiently with Ventures.

Does anyone have recommendations on pivot cups that fit Ventures properly?  I'm running 5.8 TI's

Not really....it works just kike any other skate tool works, just barely, at an angle...it also sucks on those low profile shortys nuts on ventures (angle makes it hard to latch onto).

Riptides.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 19, 2020, 10:44:59 AM
LOL just grabbed some shorty's 1" for my next setup with Ventures. aw shit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on February 19, 2020, 10:58:22 AM
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Silver makes a good skate tool that works pretty efficiently with Ventures.

Does anyone have recommendations on pivot cups that fit Ventures properly?  I'm running 5.8 TI's
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Not really....it works just kike any other skate tool works, just barely, at an angle...it also sucks on those low profile shortys nuts on ventures (angle makes it hard to latch onto).

Riptides.

Really? I just picked up one of the Silver tools and it def was way easier than the other tool I had been using.  I think my previous was an Independent tool.  There was def a noticeable difference in difficulty with removing the bolts.

And I assumed Riptides, but I didnt know if there was like a model specific for Ventures.  Thanks G
*edit* just copped some riptides actually, gooood loooooks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on February 19, 2020, 11:11:48 AM
LOL just grabbed some shorty's 1" for my next setup with Ventures. aw shit
As long as they’re not the “lights” you’re fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on February 19, 2020, 11:22:02 AM
even then it's really not that bad, managed to get a pair on recently with that hardware. definitely worse than thunder.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Skart on February 19, 2020, 11:43:20 AM
Spitfire tool is all you need
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SneakySecrets on February 20, 2020, 05:53:22 AM
Be careful about using the Indy tool on Ventures, they made it so the stem will crack and often shatter at the angle necessary to secure the nut on there.  You can get away with it or if you go slowly and are very careful like I am. 

They specifically made the Indy tool to be incompatible with Ventures to try to hedge them out of the market.  I think that it’s A) evil and B) dumb.  Don’t make the consumer pay for your dwindling sales, especially with those sharp slivers of plastic that can get everywhere when that shaft shatters.  My friend had to take his cat to the emergency vet because it ate one of those slivers and did some damage to its esophagus (it’s ok now though).  And it’s dumb because people are just going to think Indy makes poor tools.  They are not poor quality, they are just bobbytrapped.  That’s the key point I’m trying to make here.

If you have a lathe or a cut-off wheel or something like that, you can actually notch out the shaft where it would make contact with the Venture hanger.  I would not recommend this to the weekend hobbyist sect because there is far less margin for error than it appears.

[Tip:  If you’re going to try this, heat that thing up a little bit!  I microwaved it 2 seconds at a time for a total of 12 seconds (3 second cool-down).  5x6=30 seconds total.]

Now if you are working with 7/8” bolts, that’s going to change the equation entirely.  At sea level, the density of the metal compared with the average atmospheric pressure is going to make that shorter bolt a bit more brittle than your standard 1 incher.  “Well what does this mean for me?” you ask.  Well, that’s a tough question to answer.  First off, do you have a plumb bob?  If yes, skip the next paragraph.  If no, continue reading.

You’ll want to figure out some way of independently (no pun intended! Lol) verifying the true center of that bolt.  Manufacturers specs are shockingly inaccurate, as I have found variances of 3, even 4 microns on either side of true center.  The easiest way I have found to verify this without a plumb bob or electron microscope is using the earth’s natural magnetic field, when adjusted for the tilting axis and slight wobble we experience while rotating, the bolt will tend to gravitate towards true north as long as you have two equally-powerful magnets equidistant and the bolt is dropped face-down between them.

Good, now that we know true center, we need to simply repeat this 7 more times for each of the bolts.  This should take no less than an hour provided you’ve got your system down and are taking accurate notes (which you should be.  Otherwise you might as well just let the guy at CCS put your board together for you, pleb). 

Another key mistake I see a lot of people make is just turning the bolt or the nut right on there.  Hahahaha.  Fools!  Filthy, unwashed masses and their simple ways.  You need to turn the nut or the bolt backwards one turn for every two full turns.  This should be obvious, but if you need me to spell it out for you, this will dissipate some of that heat generated from the friction caused from those threads rubbing together.  As you turn, those threads are actually getting hotter than the surface of the sun for a brief nanosecond (this is why I tend to wear a welding helmet while assembling my skateboard).  Turning the bolt back the OTHER way will reverse some of that heat, actually bringing the threads dangerously close to absolute-zero in the process.  This hot/cold/hot/cold will ensure the threads do not get misshapen while also hardening the metal at the same time.  Your bolts will be able to survive a nuclear blast if done correctly.  (I actually have a fallout shelter built exclusively out of my old hardened hardware.  If any of u pals need a spot to wait out the nuclear holocaust, come on over, give the “double knock-pause-single knock” signal, give the secret passcode (“Shalom”) and you’re in!  Mi casa su casa.)

If anyone has any questions, feel free to PM and I can walk you through any of these steps. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on February 20, 2020, 08:00:37 AM
What’s an Indy tool?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: authentic_creed_bratton on February 20, 2020, 08:08:49 AM
y’all need a gd toolbox
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on February 20, 2020, 08:34:27 AM
y’all need a gd toolbox

Truth. I’ve always just kept a screwdriver and wrench in my car.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: baustin on February 20, 2020, 08:40:51 AM
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Truth. I’ve always just kept a screwdriver and wrench in my car.

Using an actual socket wrench from a set that I know is going to last a lifetime is nice. Skate specific tools can be convenient but are typically overpriced garbage.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 20, 2020, 09:10:42 AM
What’s an Indy tool?

Anyone still riding them?

Thanks, I'm here all week...

(I'm kidding FFS, it was too easy and I couldn't resist)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 20, 2020, 09:13:11 AM
y’all need a gd toolbox

For real. I've plenty of tools that get around the venture angle or low profile nuts, etc. I use the Silver tool to ratchet down then a sk8ology tool to tighten all the way; I hate cranking down the allen/phillips side as it chews up the tape sometimes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 20, 2020, 09:16:14 AM
I have tools. I feel like the complaint wasn't involving NOT being able to get the trucks on. Just them being a bit more inconvenient.
And the difference between the forged/cast plates right?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Smartass on February 20, 2020, 09:51:41 AM
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Anyone still riding them?

Thanks, I'm here all week...

(I'm kidding FFS, it was too easy and I couldn't resist)

I was offended by your post and feel that you should apologize to not only me but all my homies who happen to be bald, judgmental, and make some very interesting comments about maintaining some kind superiority. Not only do I want you to apologize, I want some form of compensation in the way of monetary value.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lazer69 on February 20, 2020, 10:35:35 AM
I just tried my venture 5,8 Bobby worrests today after skating indy's for 2 years with half that time being on bones hard bushings. Felt so strange, I felt like a noob. Was struggling, felt so weird, hopefully it gets better or I'll have to revert. I was trying to tighten them and the green bushing quickly started cracking/herniating. I still want to give them a chance though, since they feel significantly lighter, and this new board I have is a shorter WB than my previous.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 20, 2020, 10:49:56 AM
I just tried my venture 5,8 Bobby worrests today after skating indy's for 2 years with half that time being on bones hard bushings. Felt so strange, I felt like a noob. Was struggling, felt so weird, hopefully it gets better or I'll have to revert. I was trying to tighten them and the green bushing quickly started racking/herniating. I still want to give them a chance though, since they feel significantly lighter, and this new board I have is a shorter WB than my previous.
Don't give up on them just yet! I usually ride fairly tight trucks(with black bushings)on both Indy 144 and Venture's 5.2s. When I got my 5.8 B.Worrests I tightened them up like normal and had the same problems as you.So I just backed the nuts out flush and am just skating them that way and I love them now. I could play the bushing game again but I am trying to contain my insanity to shoes and deck brands..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sativa Lung on February 20, 2020, 11:27:59 AM
Be careful about using the Indy tool on Ventures, they made it so the stem will crack and often shatter at the angle necessary to secure the nut on there.  You can get away with it or if you go slowly and are very careful like I am. 

They specifically made the Indy tool to be incompatible with Ventures to try to hedge them out of the market.  I think that it’s A) evil and B) dumb.  Don’t make the consumer pay for your dwindling sales, especially with those sharp slivers of plastic that can get everywhere when that shaft shatters.  My friend had to take his cat to the emergency vet because it ate one of those slivers and did some damage to its esophagus (it’s ok now though).  And it’s dumb because people are just going to think Indy makes poor tools.  They are not poor quality, they are just bobbytrapped.  That’s the key point I’m trying to make here.

If you have a lathe or a cut-off wheel or something like that, you can actually notch out the shaft where it would make contact with the Venture hanger.  I would not recommend this to the weekend hobbyist sect because there is far less margin for error than it appears.

[Tip:  If you’re going to try this, heat that thing up a little bit!  I microwaved it 2 seconds at a time for a total of 12 seconds (3 second cool-down).  5x6=30 seconds total.]

Now if you are working with 7/8” bolts, that’s going to change the equation entirely.  At sea level, the density of the metal compared with the average atmospheric pressure is going to make that shorter bolt a bit more brittle than your standard 1 incher.  “Well what does this mean for me?” you ask.  Well, that’s a tough question to answer.  First off, do you have a plumb bob?  If yes, skip the next paragraph.  If no, continue reading.

You’ll want to figure out some way of independently (no pun intended! Lol) verifying the true center of that bolt.  Manufacturers specs are shockingly inaccurate, as I have found variances of 3, even 4 microns on either side of true center.  The easiest way I have found to verify this without a plumb bob or electron microscope is using the earth’s natural magnetic field, when adjusted for the tilting axis and slight wobble we experience while rotating, the bolt will tend to gravitate towards true north as long as you have two equally-powerful magnets equidistant and the bolt is dropped face-down between them.

Good, now that we know true center, we need to simply repeat this 7 more times for each of the bolts.  This should take no less than an hour provided you’ve got your system down and are taking accurate notes (which you should be.  Otherwise you might as well just let the guy at CCS put your board together for you, pleb). 

Another key mistake I see a lot of people make is just turning the bolt or the nut right on there.  Hahahaha.  Fools!  Filthy, unwashed masses and their simple ways.  You need to turn the nut or the bolt backwards one turn for every two full turns.  This should be obvious, but if you need me to spell it out for you, this will dissipate some of that heat generated from the friction caused from those threads rubbing together.  As you turn, those threads are actually getting hotter than the surface of the sun for a brief nanosecond (this is why I tend to wear a welding helmet while assembling my skateboard).  Turning the bolt back the OTHER way will reverse some of that heat, actually bringing the threads dangerously close to absolute-zero in the process.  This hot/cold/hot/cold will ensure the threads do not get misshapen while also hardening the metal at the same time.  Your bolts will be able to survive a nuclear blast if done correctly.  (I actually have a fallout shelter built exclusively out of my old hardened hardware.  If any of u pals need a spot to wait out the nuclear holocaust, come on over, give the “double knock-pause-single knock” signal, give the secret passcode (“Shalom”) and you’re in!  Mi casa su casa.)

If anyone has any questions, feel free to PM and I can walk you through any of these steps. 

Fake news. Blatant V-wing awakeist propaganda. MIGA.

y’all need a gd toolbox

I can't throw a toolbox in my backpack or cargo pocket when I leave for work.

I have access to all the tools I need (plus a ton I don't need) at work but still setup all my boards with a razor blade, silver tool, and the little allen wrench you get with the hardware. Just feels right to me ya know?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 20, 2020, 02:52:22 PM
What’s an Indy tool?

its China crap. The die was all I needed I needed immediately.

The fricking Allen wrench part stripped into a circular shape
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lysdexia on February 20, 2020, 06:03:03 PM
the acid tool is magic for ventures and other trucks with awkward hangers to get around.  the wrench can be used straight on like normal, or sideways to get into tight spots
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 20, 2020, 06:35:50 PM
the acid tool is magic for ventures and other trucks with awkward hangers to get around.  the wrench can be used straight on like normal, or sideways to get into tight spots

Looks like my moms sex toy.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000127558891.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.40c46368vL9Wev&algo_pvid=e7ba2556-3ccd-412c-8b70-4666befd3529&algo_expid=e7ba2556-3ccd-412c-8b70-4666befd3529-29&btsid=0ab6f8ad15822524585771627ed854&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

Got me one of these doohickies to help me out with Ventures. Smaller than a wrench and nuts that aren't smashed
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on February 21, 2020, 04:23:58 AM
Saw on insta MAnderson is now woke.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on February 21, 2020, 05:16:40 AM
Saw on insta MAnderson is now woke.
His Venchies looked nice and grinded.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 21, 2020, 08:13:45 AM
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Saw on insta MAnderson is now woke.
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His Venchies looked nice and grinded.
I could be wrong but I screenshot it and zoomed, they look like copper colored Ace.
Edit: also not Manderson’s setup. It belongs to @siahhhg
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Trail on February 21, 2020, 11:24:13 AM
Anyone running Venture Hi's for transition?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FredGallsBallz on February 21, 2020, 12:13:12 PM
Anyone running Venture Hi's for transition?

John Cardiel in 1993. Although those were probably a low/mid. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FakieFlipCG on February 21, 2020, 01:30:28 PM
Anyone running Venture Hi's for transition?
yuto? (0-0:25) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI7yM5aQv1w
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on February 21, 2020, 01:31:38 PM
Yuto is a GOD on tranny
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on February 21, 2020, 02:36:42 PM
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Saw on insta MAnderson is now woke.
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His Venchies looked nice and grinded.
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I could be wrong but I screenshot it and zoomed, they look like copper colored Ace.
Edit: also not Manderson’s setup. It belongs to @siahhhg

Ya wasn't Mike's. Can't find his original story with the ventures/venture sticker. I dropped the ball.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 21, 2020, 02:42:35 PM
Yuto is a GOD on tranny
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BornToLose on February 22, 2020, 05:04:28 AM
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Saw on insta MAnderson is now woke.
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His Venchies looked nice and grinded.
[close]
I could be wrong but I screenshot it and zoomed, they look like copper colored Ace.
Edit: also not Manderson’s setup. It belongs to @siahhhg
[close]

Ya wasn't Mike's. Can't find his original story with the ventures/venture sticker. I dropped the ball.

Looks like a Venture hoody
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7cTMWTHRGu/?igshid=oszh4q3hhyav (https://www.instagram.com/p/B7cTMWTHRGu/?igshid=oszh4q3hhyav)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 22, 2020, 05:22:48 AM
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Saw on insta MAnderson is now woke.
[close]
His Venchies looked nice and grinded.
[close]
I could be wrong but I screenshot it and zoomed, they look like copper colored Ace.
Edit: also not Manderson’s setup. It belongs to @siahhhg
[close]

Ya wasn't Mike's. Can't find his original story with the ventures/venture sticker. I dropped the ball.
[close]

Looks like a Venture hoody
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7cTMWTHRGu/?igshid=oszh4q3hhyav (https://www.instagram.com/p/B7cTMWTHRGu/?igshid=oszh4q3hhyav)
Fuck yeah, sick!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on February 22, 2020, 05:34:46 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B82rzhcls7q/

heres the photo from the krooked story of mandersons set up
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 22, 2020, 12:45:46 PM
This movement is so amazing to my old ass. I have got shit for decades for skating Ventures. People are finally seeing the light and its cool to see.
*edit*
I just got back from my local park and it turned into a solo flatground session due to an catastrophic amount of rollerbladers everywhere. But I am sad to say I have axle slip on both 5.8 Bobby W. Ventures. The pop is unreal but Its only my second time skating them so I'm bummed.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on February 23, 2020, 02:22:01 PM
This movement is so amazing to my old ass. I have got shit for decades for skating Ventures. People are finally seeing the light and its cool to see.
*edit*
I just got back from my local park and it turned into a solo flatground session due to an catastrophic amount of rollerbladers everywhere. But I am sad to say I have axle slip on both 5.8 Bobby W. Ventures. The pop is unreal but Its only my second time skating them so I'm bummed.
this happened to my pair, and then my replacement pair. absolutely loved the way they skated, but also loving that I don't have to bash my Indys off the ground to break the wheels loose. respect to everyone skating venture though, they're sick, they felt better than the pairs I had back in 2005. just fix those axles and we're good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 23, 2020, 03:30:59 PM
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This movement is so amazing to my old ass. I have got shit for decades for skating Ventures. People are finally seeing the light and its cool to see.
*edit*
I just got back from my local park and it turned into a solo flatground session due to an catastrophic amount of rollerbladers everywhere. But I am sad to say I have axle slip on both 5.8 Bobby W. Ventures. The pop is unreal but Its only my second time skating them so I'm bummed.
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this happened to my pair, and then my replacement pair. absolutely loved the way they skated, but also loving that I don't have to bash my Indys off the ground to break the wheels loose. respect to everyone skating venture though, they're sick, they felt better than the pairs I had back in 2005. just fix those axles and we're good.
I'm hoping with so many skaters changing over that they will take that new found revenue and fix the axle problem.I absolutely love these things otherwise. Just out of curiosity did you go back to indy or are you sticking it out. I ask because I rarely have skated indy but I did not ever have an axle slip with them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on February 23, 2020, 04:54:15 PM
^

had axle slippage on a pair of indys once. actually just one of the trucks. i rode indys for almost ten years before switching to ventures out of pure boredom, indys are still fine to me. this used to be a constant problem for me though when skating thunders, along with their kingpin breaking fairly often and being rather hard to replace on the spot. made me quit riding them.

i've been on ventures since the 5.6 released, so far i couldn't notice any axle slippage.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 23, 2020, 05:19:05 PM
^

had axle slippage on a pair of indys once. actually just one of the trucks. i rode indys for almost ten years before switching to ventures out of pure boredom, indys are still fine to me. this used to be a constant problem for me though when skating thunders, along with their kingpin breaking fairly often and being rather hard to replace on the spot. made me quit riding them.

i've been on ventures since the 5.6 released, so far i couldn't notice any axle slippage.
I don't think I have ever had a pair of Thunders and it sounds like I haven't missed much. I was thinking today I wonder if the fact I have the 5.8s on a 8.25 helped cause it. I threw away more than my fair share of fliptricks yesterday and maybe with the axles sticking out that little bit took more of the impact. I'm not justifying it but just curious if that could be part of it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on February 23, 2020, 08:03:50 PM
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This movement is so amazing to my old ass. I have got shit for decades for skating Ventures. People are finally seeing the light and its cool to see.
*edit*
I just got back from my local park and it turned into a solo flatground session due to an catastrophic amount of rollerbladers everywhere. But I am sad to say I have axle slip on both 5.8 Bobby W. Ventures. The pop is unreal but Its only my second time skating them so I'm bummed.
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this happened to my pair, and then my replacement pair. absolutely loved the way they skated, but also loving that I don't have to bash my Indys off the ground to break the wheels loose. respect to everyone skating venture though, they're sick, they felt better than the pairs I had back in 2005. just fix those axles and we're good.
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I'm hoping with so many skaters changing over that they will take that new found revenue and fix the axle problem.I absolutely love these things otherwise. Just out of curiosity did you go back to indy or are you sticking it out. I ask because I rarely have skated indy but I did not ever have an axle slip with them.
for real. like the way they feel, but it's a bummer slipping axles when they're barely broken in. went back to indy until my pair cracks in half then I'll suck it up and skate them till I can't take it anymore.
also skated them on a 8.25 too, definitely could have something to do with it. might end up looking for a board that's bigger than 8.25 with a short wb to see if that makes a difference. I've slipped axle on Indys too, not saying they're perfect but this pair I have down to the axle hasn't slipped yet so I keep running them when other trucks let me down.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Toadfish Rebecchi on February 24, 2020, 05:13:48 AM
People on here acting like all trucks don’t get axel slip must never try flip tricks. In 27 years of skating I’ve never had a pair of trucks that don’t slip (have only ever ridden Indy until recently getting Ventures though...)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 24, 2020, 09:41:46 AM
People on here acting like all trucks don’t get axel slip must never try flip tricks. In 27 years of skating I’ve never had a pair of trucks that don’t slip (have only ever ridden Indy until recently getting Ventures though...)
I know I never had one slip after only a few hours of skating. I kinda assume its inevitable but it definitely sucks when their brand new.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on February 24, 2020, 09:51:19 AM
My Indy’s have slipped my thunders have slipped my ventures have slipped. It’ll happen if you flip your board.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 24, 2020, 10:49:36 AM
A few sessions in now on the ventures and I’m loving them more and more. They’re so much better feeling for manuals. Like i mentioned before they feel so good on a board with a flatter nose and tail; currently riding a baker B16 shape and it makes the nose and tail feel so much more solid as opposed to indys which make the nose and tail feel so flimsy and a little too light sometimes. A solid tail definitely works a lot better at controlling manuals for me.

Can’t see myself going back to Indy’s anytime soon. The reasons I listed above and plus just riding Indy’s for more than a decade now and just getting kinda  burnt out on them has got me stoked on the ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on February 24, 2020, 11:52:17 AM
People on here acting like all trucks don’t get axel slip must never try flip tricks. In 27 years of skating I’ve never had a pair of trucks that don’t slip (have only ever ridden Indy until recently getting Ventures though...)

yeah if you land primo a lot this is true, just like with flatspotting a wheel. i actually formulated a similar answer but forgot to post... i hope anchored axles will be a thing in the future, not sure what is so difficult about it, but there has to be a reason only so few companies do them afaik. i am pretty aware that i was very lucky with my indy run whith only one truck having axle slipping through 6-8 sets over a span of 9 years. but i haven't always skated them down to the axle tbh. i totally wouldn't complain when axle slippage starts to happen after 9 months to a year of skating the truck. just something that will eventually occure with wear.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on February 24, 2020, 12:41:31 PM
Just ordered some 5.8 Bobby ventures. Pretty excited to jump from indys.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Toadfish Rebecchi on February 24, 2020, 02:30:21 PM
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People on here acting like all trucks don’t get axel slip must never try flip tricks. In 27 years of skating I’ve never had a pair of trucks that don’t slip (have only ever ridden Indy until recently getting Ventures though...)
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yeah if you land primo a lot this is true, just like with flatspotting a wheel. i actually formulated a similar answer but forgot to post... i hope anchored axles will be a thing in the future, not sure what is so difficult about it, but there has to be a reason only so few companies do them afaik. i am pretty aware that i was very lucky with my indy run whith only one truck having axle slipping through 6-8 sets over a span of 9 years. but i haven't always skated them down to the axle tbh. i totally wouldn't complain when axle slippage starts to happen after 9 months to a year of skating the truck. just something that will eventually occure with wear.

I think one of the issues with anchoring axels is that the truck itself is more likely to break. The force from the impact of landing primo still needs to go somewhere - and if the axel can’t slip, it could take some of the truck with it.

Tracker made a truck with a completely floating axel that you slid out to put your wheels on at one stage.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 24, 2020, 05:43:38 PM
Damn all this Venture talk is getting me excited to setup my 7.75 Traffic board from a few months ago. Didn't feel right with Indy 139 or Thunder 147 Hollow Lights, think it will be different with Venture Hollow Lights 5.2 Hi. The WB is short (14") so WB extending sounds like the ticket.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Whitedude on February 24, 2020, 09:20:57 PM
When I started skating I only skated thunders. Tried a set of venture and hated them (couldn’t really do anything at the time so it didn’t really mean shit) so I just went back to thunders for years until switching to indys in like 2014. Just got a set of the polished 5.6 and I gotta say it feels nice to actually be able to pop my board again
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 25, 2020, 03:46:27 PM
Should I just
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People on here acting like all trucks don’t get axel slip must never try flip tricks. In 27 years of skating I’ve never had a pair of trucks that don’t slip (have only ever ridden Indy until recently getting Ventures though...)
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yeah if you land primo a lot this is true, just like with flatspotting a wheel. i actually formulated a similar answer but forgot to post... i hope anchored axles will be a thing in the future, not sure what is so difficult about it, but there has to be a reason only so few companies do them afaik. i am pretty aware that i was very lucky with my indy run whith only one truck having axle slipping through 6-8 sets over a span of 9 years. but i haven't always skated them down to the axle tbh. i totally wouldn't complain when axle slippage starts to happen after 9 months to a year of skating the truck. just something that will eventually occure with wear.

I don't think so.

Some younger cats i skate with though I was copying Tom Penny "thing" by tapping my axles and spinning my wheels before I through down.

They never seen axles slip before because its rare these days.

Edit. See how this plays over the next few days
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 25, 2020, 06:41:28 PM
When I started skating I only skated thunders. Tried a set of venture and hated them (couldn’t really do anything at the time so it didn’t really mean shit) so I just went back to thunders for years until switching to indys in like 2014. Just got a set of the polished 5.6 and I gotta say it feels nice to actually be able to pop my board again
glad im not the only one who gets no pop on indys
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 25, 2020, 08:45:42 PM
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When I started skating I only skated thunders. Tried a set of venture and hated them (couldn’t really do anything at the time so it didn’t really mean shit) so I just went back to thunders for years until switching to indys in like 2014. Just got a set of the polished 5.6 and I gotta say it feels nice to actually be able to pop my board again
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glad im not the only one who gets no pop on indys

Im riding my Indy 144 Cast and I'm not liking the ride at all. Pinch isn't great, pop feels floaty instead of snappy and I'm not a fan of the height. Can't wait to swap them out.

Edit - setup a pair of Venture 5.2L Hollow Lights on a 8.0 board o retired a while ago. Pop is coming back very nicely, only gripe is the height, feel like my tail is bottoming out. And I forgot to pack riser in my bag. But overall I'm loving Venture

Edit edit - I'm full on the Venture 2020 hype train. I learned backside Smiths and Fs Crooks today, that pinch is magnificent. I think Indy's have a nicer slide on the baseplate but I'll take Ventures explosive pop over the floppiness of Indy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FredGallsBallz on February 27, 2020, 09:47:30 AM
Koston is skating Ventures. What’s the world coming to? https://www.instagram.com/p/B9FD8PiFfTi/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on February 27, 2020, 09:55:55 AM
Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasn’t joined a truck company since Indy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 27, 2020, 08:27:27 PM
Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasn’t joined a truck company since Indy.

I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on February 28, 2020, 01:05:43 AM
Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that? I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Toadfish Rebecchi on February 28, 2020, 01:10:11 AM
Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that? I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?

I skate for transport a lot and I like loose trucks. I can’t tell the difference between the 5.8 Ventures highs I’m riding now and the 20 sets of 149 Indys I rode previously. Great turns.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on February 28, 2020, 01:17:17 AM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that? I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
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I skate for transport a lot and I like loose trucks. I can’t tell the difference between the 5.8 Ventures highs I’m riding now and the 20 sets of 149 Indys I rode previously. Great turns.

Thanks for the info, do you find the top washer mashes into the truck? It's more of an aesthetic thing but I feel like that'd bug me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on February 28, 2020, 04:55:06 AM
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Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasn’t joined a truck company since Indy.
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I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?
No sorry. I meant on Instagram he’s been flipping between those two trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 28, 2020, 05:03:05 AM
those two nuts ARE a bitch to tighten with the unit tool. adjustable wrench it is.. that plus phillips over allen which I usually use was  :(
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 28, 2020, 07:41:52 AM
those two nuts ARE a bitch to tighten with the unit tool. adjustable wrench it is.. that plus phillips over allen which I usually use was  :(

Silver tool works decently but those 2 nuts are a bitch. The baseplate is wider than a Thunder one, the riser I had don't sit flush but in too lazy to go to the shop for some new ones.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 28, 2020, 09:43:53 AM
Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that? I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?

Yes, recommend a Bones (flat) top washer if you don't swap to Bones.

It's just different; certainly not as quick as a Thunder or ACE

Out of all the trucks I've tried, for me, they really need a full swap of bushings out of the gate. I ride loose and either Bones Softs or Ace bushings (dual duro, low top, hi bottom) work best for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on February 28, 2020, 10:25:13 AM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that? I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
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Yes, recommend a Bones (flat) top washer if you don't swap to Bones.

It's just different; certainly not as quick as a Thunder or ACE

Out of all the trucks I've tried, for me, they really need a full swap of bushings out of the gate. I ride loose and either Bones Softs or Ace bushings (dual duro, low top, hi bottom) work best for me.

Thanks, appreciate the info.When I got that set of ventures years a ago and wasn't sure if I'd gotten the updated DLX trucks since it seems like an oversight and it'd prevent the truck from turning further out the gates. The fix seems simple enough with a flat washer though. I just remember leaning as hard as I could without tipping on 2 wheels and never being able to turn as much as I liked compared to other trucks. The titanium ones seem really good for a tech setup but I get the impression these aren't really the trucks for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 28, 2020, 12:43:47 PM
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those two nuts ARE a bitch to tighten with the unit tool. adjustable wrench it is.. that plus phillips over allen which I usually use was  :(
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Silver tool works decently but those 2 nuts are a bitch. The baseplate is wider than a Thunder one, the riser I had don't sit flush but in too lazy to go to the shop for some new ones.
pretty sure the two nuts make it a man
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 11112345 on February 28, 2020, 01:30:37 PM
Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that?
my 6.1s would bind every now and again but it happened rarely enough that i didn't feel like i had to do anything about it - until i put em on a wider board and could put more force into each turn! still happened rarely but slightly less rarely. just switched out the stock top washers for some bones ones !

I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
many trucks have steeper (or am i thinking less steep? :P ) kingpin angles and all that, in addition to their shorter wheelbases !
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 28, 2020, 04:15:56 PM
Yes the stock washer makes a little scratches in the hangers. It wasn't significant.

I threw out the purple top and put an old cracked up bones bushing with a flat washer from my ace truck.

I would have kept it if it was summer time

That was because of how cold it is out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on February 29, 2020, 11:17:21 AM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that?
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my 6.1s would bind every now and again but it happened rarely enough that i didn't feel like i had to do anything about it - until i put em on a wider board and could put more force into each turn! still happened rarely but slightly less rarely. just switched out the stock top washers for some bones ones !

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I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
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many trucks have steeper (or am i thinking less steep? :P ) kingpin angles and all that, in addition to their shorter wheelbases !

Thanks for the info, when you say bind, do you mean the bushings just aren't rebounding, or that the old, non-bones, washer was catching in there and causing stuff to get stuck?

Yes the stock washer makes a little scratches in the hangers. It wasn't significant.

I threw out the purple top and put an old cracked up bones bushing with a flat washer from my ace truck.

I would have kept it if it was summer time

That was because of how cold it is out.

Gotcha thanks

You guys know if venture has updated the geo on the new wider models (5.8 and 6.1) since the dlx change? I guess I just don't get the hype since to me they felt like a truck that couldn't turn despite doing other things pretty well. Granted I didn't swap out bushings when I had some 5.2 highs
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 29, 2020, 11:31:36 AM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that?
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my 6.1s would bind every now and again but it happened rarely enough that i didn't feel like i had to do anything about it - until i put em on a wider board and could put more force into each turn! still happened rarely but slightly less rarely. just switched out the stock top washers for some bones ones !

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I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
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many trucks have steeper (or am i thinking less steep? :P ) kingpin angles and all that, in addition to their shorter wheelbases !
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Thanks for the info, when you say bind, do you mean the bushings just aren't rebounding, or that the old, non-bones, washer was catching in there and causing stuff to get stuck?

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Yes the stock washer makes a little scratches in the hangers. It wasn't significant.

I threw out the purple top and put an old cracked up bones bushing with a flat washer from my ace truck.

I would have kept it if it was summer time

That was because of how cold it is out.
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Gotcha thanks

You guys know if venture has updated the geo on the new wider models (5.8 and 6.1) since the dlx change? I guess I just don't get the hype since to me they felt like a truck that couldn't turn despite doing other things pretty well. Granted I didn't swap out bushings when I had some 5.2 highs
I dont know if they changed anything for sure, but I can tell you that the 5.8s I have now just feel like a wider version of the Venture 5.0s and 5.2s I skated many years ago. They certainly do not turn like Indys or Thunders, but that never bothered me because I ride fairly tight trucks anyway. Maybe the hype is because people just like the stability of them that you really don't get with some other brands.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on February 29, 2020, 12:13:39 PM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that?
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my 6.1s would bind every now and again but it happened rarely enough that i didn't feel like i had to do anything about it - until i put em on a wider board and could put more force into each turn! still happened rarely but slightly less rarely. just switched out the stock top washers for some bones ones !

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I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
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many trucks have steeper (or am i thinking less steep? :P ) kingpin angles and all that, in addition to their shorter wheelbases !
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Thanks for the info, when you say bind, do you mean the bushings just aren't rebounding, or that the old, non-bones, washer was catching in there and causing stuff to get stuck?

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Yes the stock washer makes a little scratches in the hangers. It wasn't significant.

I threw out the purple top and put an old cracked up bones bushing with a flat washer from my ace truck.

I would have kept it if it was summer time

That was because of how cold it is out.
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Gotcha thanks

You guys know if venture has updated the geo on the new wider models (5.8 and 6.1) since the dlx change? I guess I just don't get the hype since to me they felt like a truck that couldn't turn despite doing other things pretty well. Granted I didn't swap out bushings when I had some 5.2 highs
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I dont know if they changed anything for sure, but I can tell you that the 5.8s I have now just feel like a wider version of the Venture 5.0s and 5.2s I skated many years ago. They certainly do not turn like Indys or Thunders, but that never bothered me because I ride fairly tight trucks anyway. Maybe the hype is because people just like the stability of them that you really don't get with some other brands.

Yeah that's definitely fair, I generally ride loose so it's just a personal preference thing. Wasn't sure if the new wider ones were somehow different, thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 29, 2020, 12:22:23 PM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that?
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my 6.1s would bind every now and again but it happened rarely enough that i didn't feel like i had to do anything about it - until i put em on a wider board and could put more force into each turn! still happened rarely but slightly less rarely. just switched out the stock top washers for some bones ones !

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I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
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many trucks have steeper (or am i thinking less steep? :P ) kingpin angles and all that, in addition to their shorter wheelbases !
[close]

Thanks for the info, when you say bind, do you mean the bushings just aren't rebounding, or that the old, non-bones, washer was catching in there and causing stuff to get stuck?

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Yes the stock washer makes a little scratches in the hangers. It wasn't significant.

I threw out the purple top and put an old cracked up bones bushing with a flat washer from my ace truck.

I would have kept it if it was summer time

That was because of how cold it is out.
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Gotcha thanks

You guys know if venture has updated the geo on the new wider models (5.8 and 6.1) since the dlx change? I guess I just don't get the hype since to me they felt like a truck that couldn't turn despite doing other things pretty well. Granted I didn't swap out bushings when I had some 5.2 highs
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I dont know if they changed anything for sure, but I can tell you that the 5.8s I have now just feel like a wider version of the Venture 5.0s and 5.2s I skated many years ago. They certainly do not turn like Indys or Thunders, but that never bothered me because I ride fairly tight trucks anyway. Maybe the hype is because people just like the stability of them that you really don't get with some other brands.
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Yeah that's definitely fair, I generally ride loose so it's just a personal preference thing. Wasn't sure if the new wider ones were somehow different, thanks for clarifying.
Np man, maybe some loose truck guys that ride Venture's will give you whole different opinion.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fs1/2cab on February 29, 2020, 01:27:51 PM
So you guys got me now interested in ventures. Specifically because of the "explosive pop". I ride Indys since 4 years. I like loose and surfy turns.
What could I expect if I switch to ventures and which ones would you recommend for 8.125 decks?
Thanks in advance pals.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 29, 2020, 01:30:54 PM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that?
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my 6.1s would bind every now and again but it happened rarely enough that i didn't feel like i had to do anything about it - until i put em on a wider board and could put more force into each turn! still happened rarely but slightly less rarely. just switched out the stock top washers for some bones ones !

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I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
[close]
many trucks have steeper (or am i thinking less steep? :P ) kingpin angles and all that, in addition to their shorter wheelbases !
[close]

Thanks for the info, when you say bind, do you mean the bushings just aren't rebounding, or that the old, non-bones, washer was catching in there and causing stuff to get stuck?

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Yes the stock washer makes a little scratches in the hangers. It wasn't significant.

I threw out the purple top and put an old cracked up bones bushing with a flat washer from my ace truck.

I would have kept it if it was summer time

That was because of how cold it is out.
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Gotcha thanks

You guys know if venture has updated the geo on the new wider models (5.8 and 6.1) since the dlx change? I guess I just don't get the hype since to me they felt like a truck that couldn't turn despite doing other things pretty well. Granted I didn't swap out bushings when I had some 5.2 highs
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I dont know if they changed anything for sure, but I can tell you that the 5.8s I have now just feel like a wider version of the Venture 5.0s and 5.2s I skated many years ago. They certainly do not turn like Indys or Thunders, but that never bothered me because I ride fairly tight trucks anyway. Maybe the hype is because people just like the stability of them that you really don't get with some other brands.
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Yeah that's definitely fair, I generally ride loose so it's just a personal preference thing. Wasn't sure if the new wider ones were somehow different, thanks for clarifying.
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Np man, maybe some loose truck guys that ride Venture's will give you whole different opinion.

I ride very loose trucks. I'm thinking about flipping my top bolt even to get a little more.

With the ace 44 I had a stock bottom and a bones top I rode them very loose on an 8.5 with a 14.5 wb.

The venture 5.6 I have the stock purple barrels with cracked bones tops with the flat washer on an 8.25 with a little less than 14.25 wb.

Its basically the same except I'm more stable when I land in my board.

At the ledge and flat bar the venture beats the ace for crooks etc. Manny tricks. Ace at first but now it's the same.

Shallow end of the bowl or tight tranny ace will always win against any truck. Same with pool coping. Nothing can hang with ace and indy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 29, 2020, 01:32:40 PM
So you guys got me now interested in ventures. Specifically because of the "explosive pop". I ride Indys since 4 years. I like loose and surfy turns.
What could I expect if I switch to ventures and which ones would you recommend for 8.125 decks?
Thanks in advance pals.

5.2 or 5.6 high.

What decks do you like.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fs1/2cab on February 29, 2020, 01:44:29 PM
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So you guys got me now interested in ventures. Specifically because of the "explosive pop". I ride Indys since 4 years. I like loose and surfy turns.
What could I expect if I switch to ventures and which ones would you recommend for 8.125 decks?
Thanks in advance pals.
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5.2 or 5.6 high.

What decks do you like.

My last 4 decks were all crail, next one will be a AWS. I like 14 - 14.25 WB.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 29, 2020, 02:01:31 PM
So you guys got me now interested in ventures. Specifically because of the "explosive pop". I ride Indys since 4 years. I like loose and surfy turns.
What could I expect if I switch to ventures and which ones would you recommend for 8.125 decks?
Thanks in advance pals.
I had 5.2 (8")Venture's on a 8.125 and did not like it. So maybe 5.6 (8 1/4")Venture's would be good for 8.1's. But I seem to like a little more truck. I currently have 5.8 on a 8.25 and absolutely love it. I always go for 14 1/4" WB if that helps at all.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SneakySecrets on February 29, 2020, 02:09:50 PM
I’m sizing down from 8.25 to 8, so I’m going to finally get to skate my set of 5.2 hollow lows that I’ve had for years but barely ever touched. 

Hope they are still as awesome as I remember.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roger Mexico on February 29, 2020, 02:15:25 PM
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Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasn’t joined a truck company since Indy.
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I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?

He was riding ventures in the late-90s Chocolate Tour era. Check out some of those classic Fourstar sequence ads. I don't think he's ever been tied to a truck company for very long.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 29, 2020, 02:30:31 PM
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So you guys got me now interested in ventures. Specifically because of the "explosive pop". I ride Indys since 4 years. I like loose and surfy turns.
What could I expect if I switch to ventures and which ones would you recommend for 8.125 decks?
Thanks in advance pals.
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5.2 or 5.6 high.

What decks do you like.
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My last 4 decks were all crail, next one will be a AWS. I like 14 - 14.25 WB.

yeah It depends on if you planning on moving around width wise. I would get 5.2s if I wasn't going bigger than like 8.125 without adding washers.

If you get the 5 6 its not like you can make it skinnier.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 29, 2020, 03:32:11 PM
I’m sizing down from 8.25 to 8, so I’m going to finally get to skate my set of 5.2 hollow lows that I’ve had for years but barely ever touched. 

Hope they are still as awesome as I remember.
Please report back if you don't mind. I recently set up a 8 and I had 5.2 mids on it, and I did not like them at all. I was going to replace them with 5.2 hollow lows but I bought Indy 139 hollows instead. Which is kind of funny because I am just now (after decades of riding Venture's) trying out Indys while alot of people are running from them. My other/bigger setup has Venture's and that will never change.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SneakySecrets on February 29, 2020, 05:21:31 PM
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I’m sizing down from 8.25 to 8, so I’m going to finally get to skate my set of 5.2 hollow lows that I’ve had for years but barely ever touched. 

Hope they are still as awesome as I remember.
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Please report back if you don't mind. I recently set up a 8 and I had 5.2 mids on it, and I did not like them at all. I was going to replace them with 5.2 hollow lows but I bought Indy 139 hollows instead. Which is kind of funny because I am just now (after decades of riding Venture's) trying out Indys while alot of people are running from them. My other/bigger setup has Venture's and that will never change.

I’m the same way: was always a Venture guy but Indy 144’s have been my go-to the past year or so.

I’ll let ‘cha know how the lows work out. 

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 29, 2020, 06:00:08 PM
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those two nuts ARE a bitch to tighten with the unit tool. adjustable wrench it is.. that plus phillips over allen which I usually use was  :(
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Silver tool works decently but those 2 nuts are a bitch. The baseplate is wider than a Thunder one, the riser I had don't sit flush but in too lazy to go to the shop for some new ones.
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pretty sure the two nuts make it a man

g'nard
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nosneb on February 29, 2020, 06:23:57 PM
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Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasn’t joined a truck company since Indy.
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I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?
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No sorry. I meant on Instagram he’s been flipping between those two trucks.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ABVYgY9YFPUXAfWkbUDrUUWIqnC0N1wBuuatuHCxKOoPHVSK1W0VS7NJKGx96J5o-mRS0c7AgtBdv2fUL3_FB5_F4VrgJQ7Woq0tZAW8HnaGLZN8jnK_Bxu4ICDkl3oFuUT-FBHZ_LvYk6scQ3c)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 29, 2020, 06:50:50 PM
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Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasn’t joined a truck company since Indy.
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I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?
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No sorry. I meant on Instagram he’s been flipping between those two trucks.
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ABVYgY9YFPUXAfWkbUDrUUWIqnC0N1wBuuatuHCxKOoPHVSK1W0VS7NJKGx96J5o-mRS0c7AgtBdv2fUL3_FB5_F4VrgJQ7Woq0tZAW8HnaGLZN8jnK_Bxu4ICDkl3oFuUT-FBHZ_LvYk6scQ3c)

nice
 
Think that switch flip hit the foot though. Looks whiffed as well so who knows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on March 01, 2020, 07:33:54 AM
I have seen that some people have put a flat top washer on their Ventures. I have always ran pretty tight trucks but yesterday I loosened them up to see if it would help with my bowl/transition skating and help me lose the tic tacs after landing some tricks. It did and I really liked it but my kingpin nut is only hand tight now. I was thinking if I swap out the stock top washers with a flat ones maybe I can get the nut back flush. So are you guys just using a flat washer from the hardware store or something else?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on March 01, 2020, 08:27:33 AM
Bones top washers. I’ve been meaning to find the equivalent at the hardware store and buy a handful of them though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on March 01, 2020, 08:35:03 AM
Bones top washers. I’ve been meaning to find the equivalent at the hardware store and buy a handful of them though.
Ok so I should just pick up some bones bushings then. Just looking at the top bushing, I think it would be hard to find a washer with the right diameter hole that won't be way larger than the bushing itself.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 01, 2020, 09:38:07 AM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that?
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my 6.1s would bind every now and again but it happened rarely enough that i didn't feel like i had to do anything about it - until i put em on a wider board and could put more force into each turn! still happened rarely but slightly less rarely. just switched out the stock top washers for some bones ones !

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I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
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many trucks have steeper (or am i thinking less steep? :P ) kingpin angles and all that, in addition to their shorter wheelbases !
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Thanks for the info, when you say bind, do you mean the bushings just aren't rebounding, or that the old, non-bones, washer was catching in there and causing stuff to get stuck?

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Yes the stock washer makes a little scratches in the hangers. It wasn't significant.

I threw out the purple top and put an old cracked up bones bushing with a flat washer from my ace truck.

I would have kept it if it was summer time

That was because of how cold it is out.
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Gotcha thanks

You guys know if venture has updated the geo on the new wider models (5.8 and 6.1) since the dlx change? I guess I just don't get the hype since to me they felt like a truck that couldn't turn despite doing other things pretty well. Granted I didn't swap out bushings when I had some 5.2 highs
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I dont know if they changed anything for sure, but I can tell you that the 5.8s I have now just feel like a wider version of the Venture 5.0s and 5.2s I skated many years ago. They certainly do not turn like Indys or Thunders, but that never bothered me because I ride fairly tight trucks anyway. Maybe the hype is because people just like the stability of them that you really don't get with some other brands.
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Yeah that's definitely fair, I generally ride loose so it's just a personal preference thing. Wasn't sure if the new wider ones were somehow different, thanks for clarifying.
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Np man, maybe some loose truck guys that ride Venture's will give you whole different opinion.

Yeah, it seems like you've got to do a bit of tweaking to get them to turn more but it's doable. I'd just mistakenly thought something had changed with the geo of the new wider ones since I tend to associate wide setups with looser trucks and there seemed to be a lot of buzz around ventures again all of a sudden. I feel like if I didn't like my 5.2s stock, I wouldn't enjoy the wider variants, even with tweaking since I get the impression if I made the truck turn more with softer bushings, the radius of the turn would still be the same and I'd lose out on the stability which is the whole point of these. Appreciate the info, thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 01, 2020, 09:43:04 AM
Why not use the entire bones bushing in instead of just the top washer
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 01, 2020, 09:49:00 AM
Bones top washers. I’ve been meaning to find the equivalent at the hardware store and buy a handful of them though.

Do you guys worry you'll take out a chunk of bushing if you ever dip a smith/feeble too far with those bones top washers? They always made me nervous since, looking at some other old trucks, I can see the top washers have grind marks from when I fucked up on dipped grinds.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on March 01, 2020, 10:52:39 AM
Why not use the entire bones bushing in instead of just the top washer
I don't know if I'm ready to go down that road. Just kidding yeah I will try them out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on March 01, 2020, 10:54:11 AM
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Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasn’t joined a truck company since Indy.
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I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?
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No sorry. I meant on Instagram he’s been flipping between those two trucks.
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ABVYgY9YFPUXAfWkbUDrUUWIqnC0N1wBuuatuHCxKOoPHVSK1W0VS7NJKGx96J5o-mRS0c7AgtBdv2fUL3_FB5_F4VrgJQ7Woq0tZAW8HnaGLZN8jnK_Bxu4ICDkl3oFuUT-FBHZ_LvYk6scQ3c)
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nice
 
Think that switch flip hit the foot though. Looks whiffed as well so who knows.
He's on Venture's right now at the Tampa pro.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 01, 2020, 10:54:25 AM
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Why not use the entire bones bushing in instead of just the top washer
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I don't know if I'm ready to go down that road. Just kidding yeah I will try them out.
ha curious myself wondering who has enjoyed it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 01, 2020, 11:06:13 AM
About to get the 8.0 polished with the cast plates. Worst case if I don’t like them it’s only 30-40 bucks I’m out. On the team thunders now so I’m sure there’s going to be a little difference but I’m down for the extra stability
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: slappyjoes on March 01, 2020, 01:30:58 PM
Iv been thinking about making the switch from indys to ventures. Iv been riding indys for a while now but iv never had a pair of ventures kinda curious to see what they are like

Is the turning like indys or more like thunder?

How high are they compared to indys?

Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 01, 2020, 01:50:38 PM
Longer wheelbase.
Looks like the hi ventures are about the same as a forged Indy and cast thunders but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 01, 2020, 01:54:31 PM
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Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasn’t joined a truck company since Indy.
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I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?
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No sorry. I meant on Instagram he’s been flipping between those two trucks.
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ABVYgY9YFPUXAfWkbUDrUUWIqnC0N1wBuuatuHCxKOoPHVSK1W0VS7NJKGx96J5o-mRS0c7AgtBdv2fUL3_FB5_F4VrgJQ7Woq0tZAW8HnaGLZN8jnK_Bxu4ICDkl3oFuUT-FBHZ_LvYk6scQ3c)
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nice
 
Think that switch flip hit the foot though. Looks whiffed as well so who knows.
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He's on Venture's right now at the Tampa pro.

that's so sick.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 01, 2020, 02:10:44 PM
Iv been thinking about making the switch from indys to ventures. Iv been riding indys for a while now but iv never had a pair of ventures kinda curious to see what they are like

Is the turning like indys or more like thunder?

How high are they compared to indys?

Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

Did you read this thread at all?

Is the turning like indys or more like thunder?

Neither, somewhere in the middle.

How high are they compared to indys?

Lower than Indy cast but the sameish as Indy forged.

Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 01, 2020, 05:59:13 PM
Pulled the trigger now I’m venture gang for the time being. Did order some riptides though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 01, 2020, 06:01:46 PM
You guys know what duro the stock bushings are? I've heard as high as 94a, and the standard medium 90a. I remember not being particularly into the turn when I had a pair, but in my experience the bushings definitely didn't feel that hard.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 01, 2020, 06:29:17 PM
You guys know what duro the stock bushings are? I've heard as high as 94a, and the standard medium 90a. I remember not being particularly into the turn when I had a pair, but in my experience the bushings definitely didn't feel that hard.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109188.0
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 01, 2020, 06:31:37 PM
Iv been thinking about making the switch from indys to ventures. Iv been riding indys for a while now but iv never had a pair of ventures kinda curious to see what they are like

Is the turning like indys or more like thunder?

How high are they compared to indys?

Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

Is the turning like indys or more like thunder?
More like Thunder but less snappy, take slightly longer to break.

How high are they compared to indys?
Venture HIs are around 53.5, just about the same as a Indy Forged. Indy Cast are 55.
Venture LOs are 48.3, didn't think I would like them but the stability from being closer to the grinding surface is very welcome.

Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?
No they lengthen the WB. 3.25" on Cast, 3.4-3.5" on Forged.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 01, 2020, 06:32:21 PM
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Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasn’t joined a truck company since Indy.
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I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?
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No sorry. I meant on Instagram he’s been flipping between those two trucks.
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ABVYgY9YFPUXAfWkbUDrUUWIqnC0N1wBuuatuHCxKOoPHVSK1W0VS7NJKGx96J5o-mRS0c7AgtBdv2fUL3_FB5_F4VrgJQ7Woq0tZAW8HnaGLZN8jnK_Bxu4ICDkl3oFuUT-FBHZ_LvYk6scQ3c)
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nice
 
Think that switch flip hit the foot though. Looks whiffed as well so who knows.
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He's on Venture's right now at the Tampa pro.

I'm sure he skates what's free, sponsored or not ;) bro flow
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 01, 2020, 07:19:45 PM
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You guys know what duro the stock bushings are? I've heard as high as 94a, and the standard medium 90a. I remember not being particularly into the turn when I had a pair, but in my experience the bushings definitely didn't feel that hard.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109188.0

Alright perfect, thanks man, 90a it is. It seemed bizarre to me that a company would use such hard bushings stock, glad that's clarified.

Edit; Oh shit nvm they're 94 I guess?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 01, 2020, 09:15:47 PM
Was wondering what is the design difference that causes the height difference between Venture Lo (48.3) and Hi (53.5)? Is it a difference in baseplate thickness? Or how the hanger is designed?

The talk of frankentrucks in the earlier pages got me thinking about fitting 5.6 V-Hollows on a set of 5.2 Lo Baseplate which I can get for cheap. Wondered what the resulting truck height would be and if it would even fit together. This would give a lightweight truck that can be used on both long and short WB decks (14 - 14.25 boards).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 01, 2020, 09:27:29 PM
Was wondering what is the design difference that causes the height difference between Venture Lo (48.3) and Hi (53.5)? Is it a difference in baseplate thickness? Or how the hanger is designed?

The talk of frankentrucks in the earlier pages got me thinking about fitting 5.6 V-Hollows on a set of 5.2 Lo Baseplate which I can get for cheap. Wondered what the resulting truck height would be and if it would even fit together. This would give a lightweight truck that can be used on both long and short WB decks (14 - 14.25 boards).

I assumed it was the hanger just by looking from up front. You can see way more of the "wings" on the high with a way bigger yoke and other stuff while the baseplates, at least seem, to look the same
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ItsNoUse on March 01, 2020, 11:29:21 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/DFkUBt2.png?1)

I really like these. Never rode Ventures, never thought I would want too, but these make me question that thought. Only found them in 8.5 though, so that's a bummer.

I'm a total sucker for raw trucks on black baseplates.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on March 02, 2020, 02:22:44 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/DFkUBt2.png?1)

I really like these. Never rode Ventures, never thought I would want too, but these make me question that thought. Only found them in 8.5 though, so that's a bummer.

I'm a total sucker for raw trucks on black baseplates.
What size are you looking for? I have 8" raw hanger black baseplate, I would sell off
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 02, 2020, 03:01:07 AM
What is the consensus on the stock bushings? Everyone riding them stock? I’m riding the hards on my thunders now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chappers on March 02, 2020, 03:26:46 AM
What is the consensus on the stock bushings? Everyone riding them stock? I’m riding the hards on my thunders now

Always stock on ventures personally
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: slappyjoes on March 02, 2020, 03:32:03 AM
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Iv been thinking about making the switch from indys to ventures. Iv been riding indys for a while now but iv never had a pair of ventures kinda curious to see what they are like

Is the turning like indys or more like thunder?

How high are they compared to indys?

Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?
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Did you read this thread at all?

Is the turning like indys or more like thunder?

Neither, somewhere in the middle.

How high are they compared to indys?

Lower than Indy cast but the sameish as Indy forged.

Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest


Sorry i was to lazy to read thru the thread and i didnt wanna start a new one
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 02, 2020, 04:28:40 AM
What is the consensus on the stock bushings? Everyone riding them stock? I’m riding the hards on my thunders now
a lot of discussion in this recently but displaced in a few threads. Posted a thread link a few posts up about stock durometer. People use bones top washer also I’ve seen.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 02, 2020, 05:55:52 AM
Missed the link. I’ll try the stocks but I orders some supercush because why not. Kinda excited trying something new
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 02, 2020, 06:38:58 AM
Missed the link. I’ll try the stocks but I orders some supercush because why not. Kinda excited trying something new
which duro supercush? from where? i'm was debating the 94a but the confusion about stock being 90a or 94a just made me pump the brakes and ride what i got for now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on March 02, 2020, 07:17:00 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/eTii7re_d.jpg?maxwidth=400&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

I’ve been riding these 5.8’s mainly just cruising the neighborhood and messing around in front of the house with my daughter. The bushings are getting nice and broken in now. Ace 55s with the axle nut basically flush (turned down just a smidge) is my go to and I have zero complaints about how these Ventures feel now.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on March 02, 2020, 07:22:26 AM
Ridin’ stock*

Only recent tweak, swapped the bottom washer out for a flat, sleeved (aka “Amish”) washer, that can’t lean over on your kingpin. Same theory as the Bones “plastic bit” but on a nice fat base.

(https://i.imgur.com/pFWD1iD_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Gives a little more “dive” from medium-tight  without messing with the geo/duro/bushing cut/stability/feel tooo much.

*fresh white stock, from another factory set.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 02, 2020, 07:39:44 AM
Guys riding Ventures that stretch out WB - be aware of board length. Got a rude awakening by pairing my Venture Lo Hollow Lights with a short deck (8 x 31.6 x 14), tail ended up being way too short and I was ghost popping all way. Still liking them on a longer board (31.8) and short WB (14).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 02, 2020, 08:19:32 AM
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Missed the link. I’ll try the stocks but I orders some supercush because why not. Kinda excited trying something new
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which duro supercush? from where? i'm was debating the 94a but the confusion about stock being 90a or 94a just made me pump the brakes and ride what i got for now
I went with the 97a purple on amazon because I have a gift card but also saw that plus Skateshop had them. Didn’t have the 94 in stock.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 02, 2020, 08:38:14 AM
Guys riding Ventures that stretch out WB - be aware of board length. Got a rude awakening by pairing my Venture Lo Hollow Lights with a short deck (8 x 31.6 x 14), tail ended up being way too short and I was ghost popping all way. Still liking them on a longer board (31.8) and short WB (14).
I ride a short board but hopefully the cast doesn’t hurt me as much as the lights would
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 02, 2020, 08:49:06 AM
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Guys riding Ventures that stretch out WB - be aware of board length. Got a rude awakening by pairing my Venture Lo Hollow Lights with a short deck (8 x 31.6 x 14), tail ended up being way too short and I was ghost popping all way. Still liking them on a longer board (31.8) and short WB (14).
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I ride a short board but hopefully the cast doesn’t hurt me as much as the lights would

It was a dwindle which I was reminded today have really short boards. 3.15 to 3.25 trucks should be ok on most short boards, but this will be my last dwindle board for a long while.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 02, 2020, 08:57:31 AM
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Guys riding Ventures that stretch out WB - be aware of board length. Got a rude awakening by pairing my Venture Lo Hollow Lights with a short deck (8 x 31.6 x 14), tail ended up being way too short and I was ghost popping all way. Still liking them on a longer board (31.8) and short WB (14).
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I ride a short board but hopefully the cast doesn’t hurt me as much as the lights would
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It was a dwindle which I was reminded today have really short boards. 3.15 to 3.25 trucks should be ok on most short boards, but this will be my last dwindle board for a long while.
Also wonder how the tail steepness affects it. Dwindle does a fair amount or steep kicks don’t they? I remember looking for a mellow kick/concave and not finding one
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 02, 2020, 10:33:34 AM
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Guys riding Ventures that stretch out WB - be aware of board length. Got a rude awakening by pairing my Venture Lo Hollow Lights with a short deck (8 x 31.6 x 14), tail ended up being way too short and I was ghost popping all way. Still liking them on a longer board (31.8) and short WB (14).
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I ride a short board but hopefully the cast doesn’t hurt me as much as the lights would
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It was a dwindle which I was reminded today have really short boards. 3.15 to 3.25 trucks should be ok on most short boards, but this will be my last dwindle board for a long while.
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Also wonder how the tail steepness affects it. Dwindle does a fair amount or steep kicks don’t they? I remember looking for a mellow kick/concave and not finding one

Almost all Almost decks have steep kicks/mellow concave - they do break it up tho -you have to sort through the brands, e.g., Blind have way more Steep/FULL concave than the rest, Darkstar has the most variety out of the brands.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: stets on March 02, 2020, 01:28:07 PM
Ridin’ stock*

Only recent tweak, swapped the bottom washer out for a flat, sleeved (aka “Amish”) washer, that can’t lean over on your kingpin. Same theory as the Bones “plastic bit” but on a nice fat base.

(https://i.imgur.com/pFWD1iD_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Gives a little more “dive” from medium-tight  without messing with the geo/duro/bushing cut/stability/feel tooo much.

*fresh white stock, from another factory set.

Interesting bottom washer/"bushing cup"... is this something made by a skate company? Or did you have to source them from a hardware place like FastenAll or Macmaster Carr?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 02, 2020, 02:28:53 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/3r6upd.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/3r6upd)via Imgflip Meme Generator (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)



The purple barrels is perfect though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on March 02, 2020, 02:38:51 PM
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Ridin’ stock*

Only recent tweak, swapped the bottom washer out for a flat, sleeved (aka “Amish”) washer, that can’t lean over on your kingpin. Same theory as the Bones “plastic bit” but on a nice fat base.

(https://i.imgur.com/pFWD1iD_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Gives a little more “dive” from medium-tight  without messing with the geo/duro/bushing cut/stability/feel tooo much.

*fresh white stock, from another factory set.
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Interesting bottom washer/"bushing cup"... is this something made by a skate company? Or did you have to source them from a hardware place like FastenAll or Macmaster Carr?

Hey, it is sort of a skate company (*cough* longboard...) it’s this  https://holyboardshop.com/vital-precision-flat-washer-25mm? (https://holyboardshop.com/vital-precision-flat-washer-25mm?) part, flat, no cup  :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fred Gerwer Frank Gall on March 02, 2020, 03:01:52 PM
Ridin’ stock*

Only recent tweak, swapped the bottom washer out for a flat, sleeved (aka “Amish”) washer, that can’t lean over on your kingpin. Same theory as the Bones “plastic bit” but on a nice fat base.

(https://i.imgur.com/pFWD1iD_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Gives a little more “dive” from medium-tight  without messing with the geo/duro/bushing cut/stability/feel tooo much.

*fresh white stock, from another factory set.

 Really trying not to try Ventures but damn you that photo is some truck porn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on March 02, 2020, 04:57:31 PM
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Ridin’ stock*

Only recent tweak, swapped the bottom washer out for a flat, sleeved (aka “Amish”) washer, that can’t lean over on your kingpin. Same theory as the Bones “plastic bit” but on a nice fat base.

(https://i.imgur.com/pFWD1iD_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Gives a little more “dive” from medium-tight  without messing with the geo/duro/bushing cut/stability/feel tooo much.

*fresh white stock, from another factory set.
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Interesting bottom washer/"bushing cup"... is this something made by a skate company? Or did you have to source them from a hardware place like FastenAll or Macmaster Carr?
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Hey, it is sort of a skate company (*cough* longboard...) it’s this  https://holyboardshop.com/vital-precision-flat-washer-25mm? (https://holyboardshop.com/vital-precision-flat-washer-25mm?) part, flat, no cup  :)
Yep. Kooky kooky longboard stuff but interesting..
https://www.muirskate.com/longboard/hardware/all/washers Array washers..

http://www.sk8kings.com Used to sell a machined top washer too. I think it was aluminum and made by Oust. Seemed like a freestyler thing to help with super tight trucks. Nla now


https://www.mcmaster.com/92668a195 Should be similar to Bones washer
3/8" id, 3/4" od, 1/8" thick
Both sides will be ground flat and parallel to each other
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 02, 2020, 05:14:57 PM
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Guys riding Ventures that stretch out WB - be aware of board length. Got a rude awakening by pairing my Venture Lo Hollow Lights with a short deck (8 x 31.6 x 14), tail ended up being way too short and I was ghost popping all way. Still liking them on a longer board (31.8) and short WB (14).
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I ride a short board but hopefully the cast doesn’t hurt me as much as the lights would
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It was a dwindle which I was reminded today have really short boards. 3.15 to 3.25 trucks should be ok on most short boards, but this will be my last dwindle board for a long while.
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Also wonder how the tail steepness affects it. Dwindle does a fair amount or steep kicks don’t they? I remember looking for a mellow kick/concave and not finding one
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Almost all Almost decks have steep kicks/mellow concave - they do break it up tho -you have to sort through the brands, e.g., Blind have way more Steep/FULL concave than the rest, Darkstar has the most variety out of the brands.

Darkstar and Blind have steep / Full concaves, probably didn't help the short tail to make it harder to find the pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 02, 2020, 07:14:01 PM
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Ridin’ stock*

Only recent tweak, swapped the bottom washer out for a flat, sleeved (aka “Amish”) washer, that can’t lean over on your kingpin. Same theory as the Bones “plastic bit” but on a nice fat base.

(https://i.imgur.com/pFWD1iD_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Gives a little more “dive” from medium-tight  without messing with the geo/duro/bushing cut/stability/feel tooo much.

*fresh white stock, from another factory set.
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Interesting bottom washer/"bushing cup"... is this something made by a skate company? Or did you have to source them from a hardware place like FastenAll or Macmaster Carr?
[close]

Hey, it is sort of a skate company (*cough* longboard...) it’s this  https://holyboardshop.com/vital-precision-flat-washer-25mm? (https://holyboardshop.com/vital-precision-flat-washer-25mm?) part, flat, no cup  :)
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Yep. Kooky kooky longboard stuff but interesting..
https://www.muirskate.com/longboard/hardware/all/washers Array washers..

http://www.sk8kings.com Used to sell a machined top washer too. I think it was aluminum and made by Oust. Seemed like a freestyler thing to help with super tight trucks. Nla now


https://www.mcmaster.com/92668a195 Should be similar to Bones washer
3/8" id, 3/4" od, 1/8" thick
Both sides will be ground flat and parallel to each other

Funny, I just yesterday ordered a full set for top and bottom (and I found some slim/thin nylon locknuts) to pair up with the some ace bushings on ventures. Great minds ;)

I was researching T nut and shit and came across these.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 05, 2020, 04:33:48 PM
After learning venture stock bushings are actually pretty hard part me me feels like I should give them another try after swapping the bushings and pivot cups out since I don't remember swapping bushings while I skated a pair. On the other hand it'd be a bummer to go through swapping everything out and still not liking how they turn compared to something like my ATGs. I keep seeing a mix of posts of some people who say they can feel as good as ace and others who say they felt slow even after changing the washers, bushings, etc. so it's hard to tell. I do remember I got them decently broken in but I could never get them to turn as sharp/quick/deep as I liked. Dunno if I'd do the bones top washer thing since I feel like I'd accidentally hit the bushing if I fucked up a dipped grind, which I fuck up a lot. I do remember the stability and pop being nice, also I remember crooks feeling very different on them, like I was grinding the front of the truck compared to the round bit like on say an indy. Much to think about.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: m477 on March 05, 2020, 07:31:17 PM
^^ yeah I’d agree that the ventures have a harder stock bushing than normal (at least that’s the case with my 6.1s, which I’m very happy about). However they turn nothing like Indy or ace. The pop on the other hand is incredible! These are the first ventures I’ve had since 99/2000 and the sacrifice in turn is well worth the pop upgrade in my old age haha. I also agree on the feel of crooked grinds. Not bad but definitely a bit different.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 05, 2020, 07:34:24 PM
After learning venture stock bushings are actually pretty hard part me me feels like I should give them another try after swapping the bushings and pivot cups out since I don't remember swapping bushings while I skated a pair. On the other hand it'd be a bummer to go through swapping everything out and still not liking how they turn compared to something like my ATGs. I keep seeing a mix of posts of some people who say they can feel as good as ace and others who say they felt slow even after changing the washers, bushings, etc. so it's hard to tell. I do remember I got them decently broken in but I could never get them to turn as sharp/quick/deep as I liked. Dunno if I'd do the bones top washer thing since I feel like I'd accidentally hit the bushing if I fucked up a dipped grind, which I fuck up a lot. I do remember the stability and pop being nice, also I remember crooks feeling very different on them, like I was grinding the front of the truck compared to the round bit like on say an indy. Much to think about.

ATGs turn better, for sure.

But the lower Venture has better pop (for me).

These days I find that I only need trucks that 'turn' (meaning ACE, Indy, Theeve, Tensor or ML) if I'm skating bowls (which I'm trying to do less and less these days to get the street game back up to par). Thunder and Venture do just find if I'm out in the streets where swerving is more the norm than carving.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 05, 2020, 07:40:13 PM
^^ yeah I’d agree that the ventures have a harder stock bushing than normal (at least that’s the case with my 6.1s, which I’m very happy about). However they turn nothing like Indy or ace. The pop on the other hand is incredible! These are the first ventures I’ve had since 99/2000 and the sacrifice in turn is well worth the pop upgrade in my old age haha. I also agree on the feel of crooked grinds. Not bad but definitely a bit different.

Thanks for the info man, You riding the hi's or lows? Honestly I never really notice how a truck pops after a sesh to get used to the them, unless I actively focus on it while doing tricks stationary. With that said I'm glad there's truck variety for people who really want that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: m477 on March 05, 2020, 08:01:55 PM
They’re high, don’t think they make a 6.1 low. I just posted in the truck wb thread, but I’ll reiterate here. The effective axle wb on my previous black label 8.75, 14.5 wb with ace 55 is the same as my current primitive 8.6, 14wb with venture 6.1. That being said the turn on the ventures is more of a lean than a carve, however the pop really takes off when you snap the tail.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 05, 2020, 08:21:02 PM
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After learning venture stock bushings are actually pretty hard part me me feels like I should give them another try after swapping the bushings and pivot cups out since I don't remember swapping bushings while I skated a pair. On the other hand it'd be a bummer to go through swapping everything out and still not liking how they turn compared to something like my ATGs. I keep seeing a mix of posts of some people who say they can feel as good as ace and others who say they felt slow even after changing the washers, bushings, etc. so it's hard to tell. I do remember I got them decently broken in but I could never get them to turn as sharp/quick/deep as I liked. Dunno if I'd do the bones top washer thing since I feel like I'd accidentally hit the bushing if I fucked up a dipped grind, which I fuck up a lot. I do remember the stability and pop being nice, also I remember crooks feeling very different on them, like I was grinding the front of the truck compared to the round bit like on say an indy. Much to think about.
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ATGs turn better, for sure.

But the lower Venture has better pop (for me).

These days I find that I only need trucks that 'turn' (meaning ACE, Indy, Theeve, Tensor or ML) if I'm skating bowls (which I'm trying to do less and less these days to get the street game back up to par). Thunder and Venture do just find if I'm out in the streets where swerving is more the norm than carving.

Thanks for the info as well, always appreciated, I think this solves my dilemma. I guess I just never notice the pop stuff as much as other people, like I skated my buddies thunders then went back to my setup didn't really notice the pop difference, but every time I tried to turn with his setup, even on his broken bushings, I kept tipping the board onto two wheels or wheelbiting. I think I have a bias for turny trucks cause I usually skate this kinda shit prefab near my place where everything is really close together, so everyone rides loose or tic tacks a ton to be able to do any sort of line, thus said bias. I honestly never skate bowl, I just wanna be able to skate lines at my shitty park lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 05, 2020, 08:30:51 PM
They’re high, don’t think they make a 6.1 low. I just posted in the truck wb thread, but I’ll reiterate here. The effective axle wb on my previous black label 8.75, 14.5 wb with ace 55 is the same as my current primitive 8.6, 14wb with venture 6.1. That being said the turn on the ventures is more of a lean than a carve, however the pop really takes off when you snap the tail.

Thanks again for the info. Yeah lean is usually what bugs me with trucks so this is good to know. I try not to worry about wb too much since the wb on boards in the size I like are usually around 14.5, maybe 14.25 at the lowest if it's available. But it sounds like my overall setup wb would be uber wide if I went to venture on around a 14.5 wb which I might actually notice and not be into. Maybe I'll try a buddies setup again and see if I can really notice pop feel for once
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on March 06, 2020, 04:21:56 AM
Just got the Bobby 5.8 his. What's the consensus on bushings? Stock or aftermarket?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 06, 2020, 09:32:15 AM
Just got the Bobby 5.8 his. What's the consensus on bushings? Stock or aftermarket?

Seems to be more on stock than aftermarket (I didn't like stocks).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on March 06, 2020, 09:50:00 AM
I tried indy stocks, bones, and a couple combos with different washers/no washer.

They felt best stock, they'll never be carvy. but they turn. they remind me of that slow turn of stage 10 Indys when they do feel turny. once you get them super loose you kill the stability that makes them good trucks though.

I'm saving mine for summer when the 90+ degree weather turns my bushings into mush in the trunk on the way to the park, I'm sure they'll feel awesome. but these 30-40 degree days haven't done me any favors with any trucks let alone dlx trucks that like to be stock and don't turn good when it's cold. Indys and ace for winter because they still kind of turn okay when they freeze up.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 06, 2020, 10:04:45 AM
^^ yeah I’d agree that the ventures have a harder stock bushing than normal (at least that’s the case with my 6.1s, which I’m very happy about). However they turn nothing like Indy or ace. The pop on the other hand is incredible! These are the first ventures I’ve had since 99/2000 and the sacrifice in turn is well worth the pop upgrade in my old age haha. I also agree on the feel of crooked grinds. Not bad but definitely a bit different.

With your hands on the wall extended arms mark the floor
Put your board there parallel to the wall.
Stand on the rail and rock back and forth touching your nose and tail to the wall always returning to the centered mark on the floor.

Mark where your nose and tail touched the wall.

My 5.6 hi with a 14.25 wb turns exactly the same as the ace 44 with a 14.5.

Both have cracked Bones med top and stock bottom barrels

I run no thread count on the 5.6 and
Like 1.5 threads on the ace 44 1/8 riser



The ace 44 and the indy 139 and the 5.6 were all basically the same at 48 inches away from the wall.

The venture doesn't wheel bite on the manny pad ever.

The ace has a 1/8 riser so not to get wheel bite as much but you must have great balance to ride my aces on the manny pad.

The 44 and the 5.6 are my favorite trucks since the tfour dropped. Also that 3rd GK was a killer truck. G&S if you was light. Those were the first hollow truck I remember

-stoned rant. The truck info I swear is legit.

You got to change wheelbase and bushings to get similar effects of a different truck
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 06, 2020, 11:50:56 AM
My issue would be going through all the effort of designing a setup to get these trucks to turn only to not like how they turn, when I could just use a truck I know turns on any board and be fine. Obviously I'm compromising on stability and pop but I don't notice that as much as other people I guess so my priorities vary. I also don't have any broken bushings on had so idk what I'd do there, plus I'm weary to throw bones top washers for reasons I mentioned earlier. I'm sure you can get them to turn, but if it requires already broken bushings, specific washers, and getting a new deck with a specific cap on the wb I don't think they're for me. With that said, if someone finds a dream setup with this info that'd be sick
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 06, 2020, 12:00:47 PM
My issue would be going through all the effort of designing a setup to get these trucks to turn only to not like how they turn, when I could just use a truck I know turns on any board and be fine. Obviously I'm compromising on stability and pop but I don't notice that as much as other people I guess so my priorities vary. I also don't have any broken bushings on had so idk what I'd do there, plus I'm weary to throw bones top washers for reasons I mentioned earlier. I'm sure you can get them to turn, but if it requires already broken bushings, specific washers, and getting a new deck with a specific cap on the wb I don't think they're for me. With that said, if someone finds a dream setup with this info that'd be sick

ACE bushings (dual Duro) low top/Regular bottoms work amazing in Ventures, waaaay better than stock but not a small investment.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 06, 2020, 01:01:10 PM
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My issue would be going through all the effort of designing a setup to get these trucks to turn only to not like how they turn, when I could just use a truck I know turns on any board and be fine. Obviously I'm compromising on stability and pop but I don't notice that as much as other people I guess so my priorities vary. I also don't have any broken bushings on had so idk what I'd do there, plus I'm weary to throw bones top washers for reasons I mentioned earlier. I'm sure you can get them to turn, but if it requires already broken bushings, specific washers, and getting a new deck with a specific cap on the wb I don't think they're for me. With that said, if someone finds a dream setup with this info that'd be sick
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ACE bushings (dual Duro) low top/Regular bottoms work amazing in Ventures, waaaay better than stock but not a small investment.

Yeah I could see ace bushings being great, is this with the bones top washer or a normal one? I have a nice broken in pair from my ace trucks, I'd just have to shave down the top bushing, but them it wouldn't fit the aces lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 06, 2020, 02:42:47 PM
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My issue would be going through all the effort of designing a setup to get these trucks to turn only to not like how they turn, when I could just use a truck I know turns on any board and be fine. Obviously I'm compromising on stability and pop but I don't notice that as much as other people I guess so my priorities vary. I also don't have any broken bushings on had so idk what I'd do there, plus I'm weary to throw bones top washers for reasons I mentioned earlier. I'm sure you can get them to turn, but if it requires already broken bushings, specific washers, and getting a new deck with a specific cap on the wb I don't think they're for me. With that said, if someone finds a dream setup with this info that'd be sick
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ACE bushings (dual Duro) low top/Regular bottoms work amazing in Ventures, waaaay better than stock but not a small investment.
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Yeah I could see ace bushings being great, is this with the bones top washer or a normal one? I have a nice broken in pair from my ace trucks, I'd just have to shave down the top bushing, but them it wouldn't fit the aces lol

I use the ACE low top, regular bottom and the bones washer on top, but just rev'd up to these for top and bottom:

https://www.muirskate.com/longboard/products/54061/array-machined-cone-sleeved-washers

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 06, 2020, 04:49:20 PM
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My issue would be going through all the effort of designing a setup to get these trucks to turn only to not like how they turn, when I could just use a truck I know turns on any board and be fine. Obviously I'm compromising on stability and pop but I don't notice that as much as other people I guess so my priorities vary. I also don't have any broken bushings on had so idk what I'd do there, plus I'm weary to throw bones top washers for reasons I mentioned earlier. I'm sure you can get them to turn, but if it requires already broken bushings, specific washers, and getting a new deck with a specific cap on the wb I don't think they're for me. With that said, if someone finds a dream setup with this info that'd be sick
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ACE bushings (dual Duro) low top/Regular bottoms work amazing in Ventures, waaaay better than stock but not a small investment.
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Yeah I could see ace bushings being great, is this with the bones top washer or a normal one? I have a nice broken in pair from my ace trucks, I'd just have to shave down the top bushing, but them it wouldn't fit the aces lol
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I use the ACE low top, regular bottom and the bones washer on top, but just rev'd up to these for top and bottom:

https://www.muirskate.com/longboard/products/54061/array-machined-cone-sleeved-washers

Ah ok, damn you got everything picked out and customized, cool. Do you think those array washers make a noticeable difference?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 06, 2020, 05:29:27 PM
Stock yellow bottoms and stock thunder white tops for now.
40° today felt a little squirly with but flush with washer, gave em a half turn and could still turn 180 with ease but def less forgiving turn wise.
I’m 200 lbs and would consider supercush 94a maybe, not sure which duro to go for. Def prefer stability.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 06, 2020, 05:32:30 PM
Stock yellow bottoms and stock thunder white tops for now.
40° today felt a little squirly with but flush with washer, gave em a half turn and could still turn 180 with ease but def less forgiving turn wise.
I’m 200 lbs and would consider supercush 94a maybe, not sure which duro to go for. Def prefer stability.
I’m 200 and just got the 97a. Will report back
Tgm has both duros in stock. Might grab 94a too
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 144p on March 06, 2020, 05:41:48 PM
Riding 94a supercush and am in the same size range as you.
97 is pretty damn hard, have tried both in ventures and thunders.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 06, 2020, 06:23:18 PM
Props to all the bushing wizardry. Thinking about it now one of the reasons I probably struggled with the trucks when I had them was cause I was a twig at the time. Cool to hear people have it figured out though, I'm surprised venture doesn't offer different duros of aftermarket bushings under their own name but since other stuff fits fine I guess it's all good
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 06, 2020, 06:39:04 PM
Riding 94a supercush and am in the same size range as you.
97 is pretty damn hard, have tried both in ventures and thunders.
Ordered the 94. Going to try the stock ones first on Monday and go from there. Only thing I’ll do is put some riptides in
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 06, 2020, 06:42:41 PM
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Stock yellow bottoms and stock thunder white tops for now.
40° today felt a little squirly with but flush with washer, gave em a half turn and could still turn 180 with ease but def less forgiving turn wise.
I’m 200 lbs and would consider supercush 94a maybe, not sure which duro to go for. Def prefer stability.
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I’m 200 and just got the 97a. Will report back
Tgm has both duros in stock. Might grab 94a too
Riding 94a supercush and am in the same size range as you.
97 is pretty damn hard, have tried both in ventures and thunders.
cool thanks. Report back. 94a probably a sweet spot for us.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 144p on March 07, 2020, 11:47:18 AM
My shop does have some of the supercush duros but dlx has them in stock rarely.
http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Accessories/Bushings.htm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on March 07, 2020, 11:53:45 AM
Wish you could buy the stock purples. Want a pair for aesthetic reasons. If anyone wants greens and has purples lemme know. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 07, 2020, 11:59:40 AM
Wish you could buy the stock purples. Want a pair for aesthetic reasons. If anyone wants greens and has purples lemme know.

I have some just sitting around. DM me and we can work it out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: authentic_creed_bratton on March 07, 2020, 12:59:57 PM
damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drewsmahgoos on March 07, 2020, 01:20:00 PM
So I've got a pair of the 5.2 wenture lows. I've got to say, I really love them. They're currently on an 8 inch scumco deck with a 14.25 wheelbase that buttfart rapedick very graciously sent me. Using 52mm wheels. Very comfortable to skate and like how others have said, the manuals come easily. I don't skate super lose trucks but I'm absolutely not skating crazy tight either. The ventures turn about as well as I could expect with low trucks. I love these things now and its crazy because I was never a venture guy but I had gotten these a while ago because I wanted low trucks that would fit a smaller deck I had gotten for free. The deck didnt work out but this scumco is in a huge way. I think I'm sold on ventures at this point. I'm going to try film trucks but I for sure will end up woth more venture 5.2 lows.


Do people find the v lights to be worth it?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on March 07, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
So I've got a pair of the 5.2 wenture lows. I've got to say, I really love them. They're currently on an 8 inch scumco deck with a 14.25 wheelbase that buttfart rapedick very graciously sent me. Using 52mm wheels. Very comfortable to skate and like how others have said, the manuals come easily. I don't skate super lose trucks but I'm absolutely not skating crazy tight either. The ventures turn about as well as I could expect with low trucks. I love these things now and its crazy because I was never a venture guy but I had gotten these a while ago because I wanted low trucks that would fit a smaller deck I had gotten for free. The deck didnt work out but this scumco is in a huge way. I think I'm sold on ventures at this point. I'm going to try film trucks but I for sure will end up woth more venture 5.2 lows.


Do people find the v lights to be worth it?
I put 5.2 lows with 52s on a 8.25 today and I really like it.I tried 5.2 highs with 54s on a different 8.25 a while ago and it was not good for Me. It's crazy what a few mm's can do!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 07, 2020, 04:57:08 PM
Wish you could buy the stock purples. Want a pair for aesthetic reasons. If anyone wants greens and has purples lemme know.

If I can find my old purple 5.2 highs I'll let you know
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 07, 2020, 05:31:35 PM
Purples look dope but I think the greens do too
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 07, 2020, 08:00:19 PM
My issue would be going through all the effort of designing a setup to get these trucks to turn only to not like how they turn, when I could just use a truck I know turns on any board and be fine. Obviously I'm compromising on stability and pop but I don't notice that as much as other people I guess so my priorities vary. I also don't have any broken bushings on had so idk what I'd do there, plus I'm weary to throw bones top washers for reasons I mentioned earlier. I'm sure you can get them to turn, but if it requires already broken bushings, specific washers, and getting a new deck with a specific cap on the wb I don't think they're for me. With that said, if someone finds a dream setup with this info that'd be sick

bang them shits with a hammer.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on March 07, 2020, 08:23:30 PM
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Wish you could buy the stock purples. Want a pair for aesthetic reasons. If anyone wants greens and has purples lemme know.
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I have some just sitting around. DM me and we can work it out.
PM’d
Love the purples, should’ve just bought regular raws because I knew I’d want those bushings lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 11, 2020, 09:53:41 AM
On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 11, 2020, 10:23:23 AM
On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well

Using a flat washer on ALL (to prevent binding) and with Riptide Pivot cups:

I tried:

Stock purples
Bones: Medium and Soft
Indy 88a (red) conical and barrel bottom
Ace low tops / regular bottoms (remember ACE are dual duro

The ACEs bushing seriously outperformed everything else, no questions. They made the Venture swerve a more surfy swerve and the hope is that with these washers to give them an even more responsive feel on top of the dual duro mechanic.

damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jSx9xiEXYSn3_PBZs7GyQzCLWWr63hrBfuF0hqsHmyrxAWC25kyYHt3W-kj3dw76pmoBoKaczEQpTCtyWfJyKzva05xUi-RUUdJX1k_HOa31wAztixB0h8bP-v6VkjbjKrv9ZVb47wQ)

Waiting in the wings for either some 6.1 Ventures or these fabled Indy Mids (and ACE bushings as noted above): Riptides, the muir skate washers and those Acer racing low profile Ti nuts (FWIW the KP nuts are 2g lighter each (and about 2mm lower than regs), axle nuts are about 1g lighter than regs but much thinner, with these you can really stack the speed rings to push those wheels out).


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: pointandclick on March 11, 2020, 10:36:38 AM
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On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well
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Using a flat washer on ALL (to prevent binding) and with Riptide Pivot cups:

I tried:

Stock purples
Bones: Medium and Soft
Indy 88a (red) conical and barrel bottom
Ace low tops / regular bottoms (remember ACE are dual duro

The ACEs bushing seriously outperformed everything else, no questions. They made the Venture swerve a more surfy swerve and the hope is that with these washers to give them an even more responsive feel on top of the dual duro mechanic.

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damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jSx9xiEXYSn3_PBZs7GyQzCLWWr63hrBfuF0hqsHmyrxAWC25kyYHt3W-kj3dw76pmoBoKaczEQpTCtyWfJyKzva05xUi-RUUdJX1k_HOa31wAztixB0h8bP-v6VkjbjKrv9ZVb47wQ)

Waiting in the wings for either some 6.1 Ventures or these fabled Indy Mids (and ACE bushings as noted above): Riptides, the muir skate washers and those Acer racing low profile Ti nuts (FWIW the KP nuts are 2g lighter each (and about 2mm lower than regs), axle nuts are about 1g lighter than regs but much thinner, with these you can really stack the speed rings to push those wheels out).
can i get someone to mail me a set of array washers from muir? i checked and its going to cost $97 american to ship them up to canada. if anyone is willing to hook it up i'd be greatful.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 11, 2020, 11:20:14 AM
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On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well
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Using a flat washer on ALL (to prevent binding) and with Riptide Pivot cups:

I tried:

Stock purples
Bones: Medium and Soft
Indy 88a (red) conical and barrel bottom
Ace low tops / regular bottoms (remember ACE are dual duro

The ACEs bushing seriously outperformed everything else, no questions. They made the Venture swerve a more surfy swerve and the hope is that with these washers to give them an even more responsive feel on top of the dual duro mechanic.

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damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jSx9xiEXYSn3_PBZs7GyQzCLWWr63hrBfuF0hqsHmyrxAWC25kyYHt3W-kj3dw76pmoBoKaczEQpTCtyWfJyKzva05xUi-RUUdJX1k_HOa31wAztixB0h8bP-v6VkjbjKrv9ZVb47wQ)

Waiting in the wings for either some 6.1 Ventures or these fabled Indy Mids (and ACE bushings as noted above): Riptides, the muir skate washers and those Acer racing low profile Ti nuts (FWIW the KP nuts are 2g lighter each (and about 2mm lower than regs), axle nuts are about 1g lighter than regs but much thinner, with these you can really stack the speed rings to push those wheels out).
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can i get someone to mail me a set of array washers from muir? i checked and its going to cost $97 american to ship them up to canada. if anyone is willing to hook it up i'd be greatful.

97 dollars is insane.

I was thinking more board truck combos but now I almost want to buy a set of these washers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: pointandclick on March 11, 2020, 11:32:59 AM
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On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well
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Using a flat washer on ALL (to prevent binding) and with Riptide Pivot cups:

I tried:

Stock purples
Bones: Medium and Soft
Indy 88a (red) conical and barrel bottom
Ace low tops / regular bottoms (remember ACE are dual duro

The ACEs bushing seriously outperformed everything else, no questions. They made the Venture swerve a more surfy swerve and the hope is that with these washers to give them an even more responsive feel on top of the dual duro mechanic.

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damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jSx9xiEXYSn3_PBZs7GyQzCLWWr63hrBfuF0hqsHmyrxAWC25kyYHt3W-kj3dw76pmoBoKaczEQpTCtyWfJyKzva05xUi-RUUdJX1k_HOa31wAztixB0h8bP-v6VkjbjKrv9ZVb47wQ)

Waiting in the wings for either some 6.1 Ventures or these fabled Indy Mids (and ACE bushings as noted above): Riptides, the muir skate washers and those Acer racing low profile Ti nuts (FWIW the KP nuts are 2g lighter each (and about 2mm lower than regs), axle nuts are about 1g lighter than regs but much thinner, with these you can really stack the speed rings to push those wheels out).
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can i get someone to mail me a set of array washers from muir? i checked and its going to cost $97 american to ship them up to canada. if anyone is willing to hook it up i'd be greatful.
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97 dollars is insane.

I was thinking more board truck combos but now I almost want to buy a set of these washers
its only because they dont have other options to ship to canada, their best response was to sign up for one of those out of country po: box services. if any pals are willing to be the middle man ill pay for shipping, just wanting to see if these end my truck madness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 11, 2020, 11:50:33 AM
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On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well
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Using a flat washer on ALL (to prevent binding) and with Riptide Pivot cups:

I tried:

Stock purples
Bones: Medium and Soft
Indy 88a (red) conical and barrel bottom
Ace low tops / regular bottoms (remember ACE are dual duro

The ACEs bushing seriously outperformed everything else, no questions. They made the Venture swerve a more surfy swerve and the hope is that with these washers to give them an even more responsive feel on top of the dual duro mechanic.

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damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jSx9xiEXYSn3_PBZs7GyQzCLWWr63hrBfuF0hqsHmyrxAWC25kyYHt3W-kj3dw76pmoBoKaczEQpTCtyWfJyKzva05xUi-RUUdJX1k_HOa31wAztixB0h8bP-v6VkjbjKrv9ZVb47wQ)

Waiting in the wings for either some 6.1 Ventures or these fabled Indy Mids (and ACE bushings as noted above): Riptides, the muir skate washers and those Acer racing low profile Ti nuts (FWIW the KP nuts are 2g lighter each (and about 2mm lower than regs), axle nuts are about 1g lighter than regs but much thinner, with these you can really stack the speed rings to push those wheels out).
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can i get someone to mail me a set of array washers from muir? i checked and its going to cost $97 american to ship them up to canada. if anyone is willing to hook it up i'd be greatful.
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97 dollars is insane.

I was thinking more board truck combos but now I almost want to buy a set of these washers
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its only because they dont have other options to ship to canada, their best response was to sign up for one of those out of country po: box services. if any pals are willing to be the middle man ill pay for shipping, just wanting to see if these end my truck madness.

I got you. DM me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on March 11, 2020, 06:10:31 PM
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On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well
[close]

Using a flat washer on ALL (to prevent binding) and with Riptide Pivot cups:

I tried:

Stock purples
Bones: Medium and Soft
Indy 88a (red) conical and barrel bottom
Ace low tops / regular bottoms (remember ACE are dual duro

The ACEs bushing seriously outperformed everything else, no questions. They made the Venture swerve a more surfy swerve and the hope is that with these washers to give them an even more responsive feel on top of the dual duro mechanic.

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damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jSx9xiEXYSn3_PBZs7GyQzCLWWr63hrBfuF0hqsHmyrxAWC25kyYHt3W-kj3dw76pmoBoKaczEQpTCtyWfJyKzva05xUi-RUUdJX1k_HOa31wAztixB0h8bP-v6VkjbjKrv9ZVb47wQ)

Waiting in the wings for either some 6.1 Ventures or these fabled Indy Mids (and ACE bushings as noted above): Riptides, the muir skate washers and those Acer racing low profile Ti nuts (FWIW the KP nuts are 2g lighter each (and about 2mm lower than regs), axle nuts are about 1g lighter than regs but much thinner, with these you can really stack the speed rings to push those wheels out).
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can i get someone to mail me a set of array washers from muir? i checked and its going to cost $97 american to ship them up to canada. if anyone is willing to hook it up i'd be greatful.
[close]

97 dollars is insane.

I was thinking more board truck combos but now I almost want to buy a set of these washers
[close]
its only because they dont have other options to ship to canada, their best response was to sign up for one of those out of country po: box services. if any pals are willing to be the middle man ill pay for shipping, just wanting to see if these end my truck madness.
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I got you. DM me.
Fwiw..
Array washers are 1.5mm thick, right?
That's 0.059" and should be thicker than normal cup washers. I can measure later..

Also not good to use Ti nuts on Ti threads (axles, kingpins). There's a chance of galling and damaging the threads.
The low lateral loads involved should make this a non-issue but thought I'd mention it.
Normally the thing to do would be use anti-seize but that would make the nyloc less effective.


Since we apparently geek the the same..
I was thinking of spacers instead of 3 speedrings on the inside..

http://www.sk8kings.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=SK8KINGS215&Category_Code=HW

https://www.mcmaster.com/91525a325

https://www.mcmaster.com/93320a355

Don't mean to come across like I'm saying to buy from McMaster-Carr.
It's just an easy site to search and they have pics/dimensions.
Look for a local industrial hardware store that'll sell retail without an account.
https://www.marshallshardware.com San Diego area
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ned Providence on March 12, 2020, 09:30:23 AM
I recently put some broken in Bones mediums in my 6.1's and thy turn super good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 12, 2020, 10:42:36 AM
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On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well
[close]

Using a flat washer on ALL (to prevent binding) and with Riptide Pivot cups:

I tried:

Stock purples
Bones: Medium and Soft
Indy 88a (red) conical and barrel bottom
Ace low tops / regular bottoms (remember ACE are dual duro

The ACEs bushing seriously outperformed everything else, no questions. They made the Venture swerve a more surfy swerve and the hope is that with these washers to give them an even more responsive feel on top of the dual duro mechanic.

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damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)
[close]

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jSx9xiEXYSn3_PBZs7GyQzCLWWr63hrBfuF0hqsHmyrxAWC25kyYHt3W-kj3dw76pmoBoKaczEQpTCtyWfJyKzva05xUi-RUUdJX1k_HOa31wAztixB0h8bP-v6VkjbjKrv9ZVb47wQ)

Waiting in the wings for either some 6.1 Ventures or these fabled Indy Mids (and ACE bushings as noted above): Riptides, the muir skate washers and those Acer racing low profile Ti nuts (FWIW the KP nuts are 2g lighter each (and about 2mm lower than regs), axle nuts are about 1g lighter than regs but much thinner, with these you can really stack the speed rings to push those wheels out).
[close]
can i get someone to mail me a set of array washers from muir? i checked and its going to cost $97 american to ship them up to canada. if anyone is willing to hook it up i'd be greatful.
[close]

97 dollars is insane.

I was thinking more board truck combos but now I almost want to buy a set of these washers
[close]
its only because they dont have other options to ship to canada, their best response was to sign up for one of those out of country po: box services. if any pals are willing to be the middle man ill pay for shipping, just wanting to see if these end my truck madness.
[close]

I got you. DM me.
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Fwiw..
Array washers are 1.5mm thick, right?
That's 0.059" and should be thicker than normal cup washers. I can measure later..

Also not good to use Ti nuts on Ti threads (axles, kingpins). There's a chance of galling and damaging the threads.
The low lateral loads involved should make this a non-issue but thought I'd mention it.
Normally the thing to do would be use anti-seize but that would make the nyloc less effective.


Since we apparently geek the the same..
I was thinking of spacers instead of 3 speedrings on the inside..

http://www.sk8kings.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=SK8KINGS215&Category_Code=HW

https://www.mcmaster.com/91525a325

https://www.mcmaster.com/93320a355

Don't mean to come across like I'm saying to buy from McMaster-Carr.
It's just an easy site to search and they have pics/dimensions.
Look for a local industrial hardware store that'll sell retail without an account.
https://www.marshallshardware.com San Diego area

1.5mm - they may be a hair thicker compared to a bones washer (which I use almost exclusively for a top washer, and bottom anything with a conical bottom), which is thinner than a stock washer (I think). However, I am not worried since I am using a low top (ACE) bushing.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_PyPrwk5eRh18dTsZzGj_INd1SL7knh7C5OfCcFDAxu-sgvTmgmCj-iB3rPaveJYZarAd9O2zPvmqlV-Zur-GLe7PelVt9g2s5D6uIghhecA2rkLKRGU-wnE_CiyzbJeKiPrCcJTnCI)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/85dnsmzsBGeT36knzyekUoCc_911_yNoEAUaA8IUIXJ-hBhRDCT6MwvCJ-y68aC5HrI220D54ZDkoSEjje18dk5DyssBqSzi-ojl-nrkN_GHJKrS4g3htPOBysL5GZV9Ts_g834C-cg)

As for ti nuts/side load, I am willing to take that risk ;) I'd imagine on TI axles the risk would be less?

Those 1/8 spacers are  you thinking of using those as speedrings?

Makes me want to find those old versions of Theeve V3s with the TI Kingpins (they were so fucking light) and throw all the nuts and washers on them.

One could also just ride tensors (and put all those ti nuts and cone washers on them ;)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 12, 2020, 12:51:56 PM
I’m digging almost everything besides the size of my new trucks. I wish I would have gotten the 5.6 and not the 5.2
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on March 12, 2020, 07:16:21 PM
Yeah. I was thinking 1/8" spacer should be about the same as 3 speedrings.
I'm remembering speedrings as 1mm thick but should double check.


I didn't even know if you had Ti trucks. Just thought I'd mention it.

Ti on steel isn't a problem.
The galling issue is with Ti-Ti threads, Ti bolt and Ti nut.
The metal can microweld, rip metal off the nut and weld it to the axle, or vice versa.
Fucks up the threads..

The only times I could see galling being an issue is when you first put the nut on cuz the threads will be a slightly different shape than the axle threads.
A drop of oil might work fine here..
But using the axle nut to fully seat a wheel bearing would be bad since it'd load the threads more.
That's what I meant by lateral loads but now you're making me wonder about primo stuff..

Ti kingpin might be iffy too..


I had a geeky stoner pipedream that involved Ace mag baseplates, Theeve Ti kingpin, possibly even Tensor ATG mag hangers.
Aluminum nuts might work but idk if I've seen them with nyloc.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 12, 2020, 07:28:48 PM
I recently put some broken in Bones mediums in my 6.1's and thy turn super good.

if gnar you if I could. Win.

Everyone should break the plastic right away. Shits stupid. The bushings is nice though it doesn't freeze easily.

Also if you stay stock bottom you can cut the bones bottoms and have double the value right

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 13, 2020, 06:32:38 AM
I’m 200 and just got the 97a. Will report back
Tgm has both duros in stock. Might grab 94a too
how are you liking the 97a? In 6.1?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 13, 2020, 10:22:26 AM

I had a geeky stoner pipedream that involved Ace mag baseplates, Theeve Ti kingpin, possibly even Tensor ATG mag hangers.
Aluminum nuts might work but idk if I've seen them with nyloc.

Better off just riding mag tensors all around then! The TI pin in the mag lites would be crazy, they'd weight next to nothing, hell I don't even know how they made the tensor hollow kingpin lighter than the competition, but it clearly is.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on March 18, 2020, 02:44:19 PM
That new venture x thrasher collab shirt is something I can definitely get behind. Shit is fucking fire.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 18, 2020, 03:05:17 PM
I test epoxy one side of the axles. By the pin and outer hanger.

Fuck it what's going to happen I break the truck?

I have to replace my broken bones before the truck falls off.

I have endless bones to toy with.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on March 21, 2020, 11:58:35 AM
Just tried my Venture 5.8s with conical bushings it is perfection. Definitely worth a try for you guys coming from indys
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: AngryBlackMan on March 21, 2020, 12:33:11 PM
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Tgm has both duros in stock. Might grab 94a too
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how are you liking the 97a? In 6.1?

I’m 240 and I run the supercush 97a in my 5.6’s and I love them. I run them in Indys too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tangar on March 21, 2020, 05:58:25 PM
I have 2 sets of 6.1s on identical setups, one with bones hards (cause the stocks blew out). One with stocks still. They both turn super well for me and my small bag of tricks, they’ve worked great for slappies, limited flat ground bag and even more limited ledge bag. As long as your putting the time in, most shit works. I tried 5.8 v-lights with bones and they just didn’t turn as well as the 6.1s for me, and I personally like more truck for my shitty crooked grinds. Y’all need to stop listening to Xen’s crazy ass. I hesitated on aces for so long because it seemed that everyone needed a magical recipe for them to work. I’d hate for Ventures to suffer the same fate. I only ever rode aces stock and they were great, just got too heavy because I preferred the 55s. Ventures with bones are the bees knees and I have some mediums on standby incase my stocks blow out. #THEAWAKENING #XENSUCKS
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on March 21, 2020, 07:00:29 PM
Gonna turn to this thread and ask if Venture bushings weirdly get easier to turn out of nowhere (be it weather, dryness, etc.) instead of admitting that in the last 2 or 3 months that I've been off board I've gained weight.

But they randomly got looser for me. Pushed around yesterday and I had them pretty loos but they turned really quickly. I do kinda understand what people mean when they refer to turns as deep. Going from Indy/Aces you can feel the difference. I will say that maybe it's because I have 5.8s and 6.1s would turn nicer because I feel that wider trucks have a nicer turn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drewsmahgoos on March 22, 2020, 07:33:32 AM
Gonna turn to this thread and ask if Venture bushings weirdly get easier to turn out of nowhere (be it weather, dryness, etc.) instead of admitting that in the last 2 or 3 months that I've been off board I've gained weight.

But they randomly got looser for me. Pushed around yesterday and I had them pretty loos but they turned really quickly. I do kinda understand what people mean when they refer to turns as deep. Going from Indy/Aces you can feel the difference. I will say that maybe it's because I have 5.8s and 6.1s would turn nicer because I feel that wider trucks have a nicer turn.

When you were skating these before, was it a lot colder out? Doesn't just have to be your fat ass. Could be that the cold weather made your bushings harder and now that it's getting warmer, it's easier to turn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 22, 2020, 08:08:55 AM
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Gonna turn to this thread and ask if Venture bushings weirdly get easier to turn out of nowhere (be it weather, dryness, etc.) instead of admitting that in the last 2 or 3 months that I've been off board I've gained weight.

But they randomly got looser for me. Pushed around yesterday and I had them pretty loos but they turned really quickly. I do kinda understand what people mean when they refer to turns as deep. Going from Indy/Aces you can feel the difference. I will say that maybe it's because I have 5.8s and 6.1s would turn nicer because I feel that wider trucks have a nicer turn.
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When you were skating these before, was it a lot colder out? Doesn't just have to be your fat ass. Could be that the cold weather made your bushings harder and now that it's getting warmer, it's easier to turn.

obv

also check your bolts.

The hard to reach ones underneath the axles loosen and its more noticeable with this truck.

I usually bomb rattlely bolts but I get much more side to side without ovaled holes on this truck compared to like an old ace with amoeba shaped holes and finger tightenable bolts.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on March 25, 2020, 03:43:28 PM
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Gonna turn to this thread and ask if Venture bushings weirdly get easier to turn out of nowhere (be it weather, dryness, etc.) instead of admitting that in the last 2 or 3 months that I've been off board I've gained weight.

But they randomly got looser for me. Pushed around yesterday and I had them pretty loos but they turned really quickly. I do kinda understand what people mean when they refer to turns as deep. Going from Indy/Aces you can feel the difference. I will say that maybe it's because I have 5.8s and 6.1s would turn nicer because I feel that wider trucks have a nicer turn.
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When you were skating these before, was it a lot colder out? Doesn't just have to be your fat ass. Could be that the cold weather made your bushings harder and now that it's getting warmer, it's easier to turn.
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obv

also check your bolts.

The hard to reach ones underneath the axles loosen and its more noticeable with this truck.

I usually bomb rattlely bolts but I get much more side to side without ovaled holes on this truck compared to like an old ace with amoeba shaped holes and finger tightenable bolts.

I’m in SoCal, it has gotten a little warmer so it might be that partially. The bolts are still tight and I threw in a shirt and you can see my stomach so it’s me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 25, 2020, 05:09:19 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: AngryBlackMan on March 25, 2020, 05:19:07 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)

Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once they’re mounted.  It’s the axle relative to the mounting holes. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 25, 2020, 05:43:50 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
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Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once they’re mounted.  It’s the axle relative to the mounting holes.

That still doesn't change the fact that Thunder axles stick further out than Ventures. That makes them the truck that extends the wheelbase the most, not Venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on March 25, 2020, 05:51:04 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
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Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once they’re mounted.  It’s the axle relative to the mounting holes.
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That still doesn't change the fact that Thunder axles stick further out than Ventures. That makes them the truck that extends the wheelbase the most, not Venture.
2 things...

What?

And if you work at that shop, stop taking the wheels out the packaging.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 25, 2020, 05:56:29 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
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Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once they’re mounted.  It’s the axle relative to the mounting holes.
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That still doesn't change the fact that Thunder axles stick further out than Ventures. That makes them the truck that extends the wheelbase the most, not Venture.
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2 things...

What?

And if you work at that shop, stop taking the wheels out the packaging.

I posted pics showing what I'm talking about, I genuinely want to know why it's said Venture extends the wheelbase the most besides "because I said so." To my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most.

Hell, Ben Degros even measured this comparing Thunder Hi vs Venture Los, proving this. (8:06)

https://youtu.be/B0Tyk4rj3hs

As for the wheels, my shop just does that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 25, 2020, 06:15:23 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
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Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once they’re mounted.  It’s the axle relative to the mounting holes.
[close]

That still doesn't change the fact that Thunder axles stick further out than Ventures. That makes them the truck that extends the wheelbase the most, not Venture.
[close]
2 things...

What?

And if you work at that shop, stop taking the wheels out the packaging.
[close]

I posted pics showing what I'm talking about, I genuinely want to know why it's said Venture extends the wheelbase the most besides "because I said so." To my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most.

Hell, Ben Degros even measured this comparing Thunder Hi vs Venture Los, proving this. (8:06)

https://youtu.be/B0Tyk4rj3hs

As for the wheels, my shop just does that.

well the 2 ventures are different models here.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BL0B on March 25, 2020, 06:23:31 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
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Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once they’re mounted.  It’s the axle relative to the mounting holes.
[close]

That still doesn't change the fact that Thunder axles stick further out than Ventures. That makes them the truck that extends the wheelbase the most, not Venture.
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2 things...

What?

And if you work at that shop, stop taking the wheels out the packaging.


i like this guy!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on March 25, 2020, 06:25:43 PM
Get all this thunder BS out of my thread  8) I think it’s generally understood a forged venture extends wheelbase further than any thunder once it’s mounted to the deck. Cast venture could be a different story, trashed my thunders long ago sorry.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 25, 2020, 06:39:20 PM
Still trying to find the perfect combo for my ventures, but right now I love almost everything about them. I’ve been more comfortable than I’ve been in a long time and have been getting some tricks I haven’t in a while. My only complaint is I haven’t quite figured out how to max out my pop on them, I feel like if I have a ledge or something I can still get on it but my flat ground ollies feel like they have a lower ceiling. Other than that I’m feeling great on them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 25, 2020, 06:45:22 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
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Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once they’re mounted.  It’s the axle relative to the mounting holes.
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That still doesn't change the fact that Thunder axles stick further out than Ventures. That makes them the truck that extends the wheelbase the most, not Venture.
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2 things...

What?

And if you work at that shop, stop taking the wheels out the packaging.
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I posted pics showing what I'm talking about, I genuinely want to know why it's said Venture extends the wheelbase the most besides "because I said so." To my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most.

Hell, Ben Degros even measured this comparing Thunder Hi vs Venture Los, proving this. (8:06)

https://youtu.be/B0Tyk4rj3hs

As for the wheels, my shop just does that.
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well the 2 ventures are different models here.

Get all this thunder BS out of my thread  8) I think it’s generally understood a forged venture extends wheelbase further than any thunder once it’s mounted to the deck. Cast venture could be a different story, trashed my thunders long ago sorry.

This is the type of answers I was looking for. I also dug up one of Ben's older videos where he measures truck wheelbases mounted on decks and that's the right answer: it really depends on which version of truck you get, you can't claim trucks bands extended/shorten a wheelbase without specifying a certain model.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CJBjwGj8EU

(Measurements in description)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 25, 2020, 06:56:27 PM
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
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Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once they’re mounted.  It’s the axle relative to the mounting holes.
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That still doesn't change the fact that Thunder axles stick further out than Ventures. That makes them the truck that extends the wheelbase the most, not Venture.
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What?

And if you work at that shop, stop taking the wheels out the packaging.
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i like this guy!

Here are the WB adjustment measurements I've gathered from scouring this forum, sticking to 147 / 148 and 5.2 / 5.6 before we get lost in the weeds:

Independent Cast Plates - Standard - 3"
Thunder Cast Plates - Team Standard, Team Hollow, Titanium - 3.15 - 3.18"
Venture Cast Plates - Standard stuff not the V-Light / Hollow / Titanium - 3.25"

Independent Forged Plates - Hollow - 3.125"
Tensor Maglight ATG - 3.125"
Thunder Forged Plates - Lights, Hollow Lights - 3.25" - 3.28"
Venture Forged Plates - V-Lights, V-Hollow. Titanium - 3.4" - 3.5"

Key difference would be type of baseplate used - good rule of thumb is forged (thinner, shinier) will extend WB and cast (thicker, rougher looking) will extend WB less than forged. Thunder Team trucks stick out since they are hollow axle & kingpin with a forged baseplate, so they don't extend WB as much as the Light / Hollow Lights counterparts.

Won't get into Ace or Theeve, don't have any experience with those.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on March 25, 2020, 06:57:22 PM
Thank you rock for blessing us
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 25, 2020, 07:08:39 PM
Thank you rock for blessing us

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0
These people did a lot of the heavy lifting.

palelight's posts on forged vs cast was also really useful:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3065039#msg3065039
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3186320#msg3186320

Now, let's get back to the gear madness.

Still trying to find the perfect combo for my ventures, but right now I love almost everything about them. I’ve been more comfortable than I’ve been in a long time and have been getting some tricks I haven’t in a while. My only complaint is I haven’t quite figured out how to max out my pop on them, I feel like if I have a ledge or something I can still get on it but my flat ground ollies feel like they have a lower ceiling. Other than that I’m feeling great on them

Love them on a peculiar setup I had 8 x 32 x 14. Was riding food with Thunder 147 Lights, but amazing with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo. Revived the 4 week old deck and despite the razor tail I'm still contemplating riding it today because it felt amazing.

The standard Venture with cast plates will be pretty good for most boards with 14.25-14.38 WB, My preference for cast Ventures (V-Lights, V-Hollow. Titanium) would be short WB decks, those in the 14-14.125 range. Of course you can mix and match hollow hangers with cast plates too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 25, 2020, 07:50:31 PM
Still trying to find the perfect combo for my ventures, but right now I love almost everything about them. I’ve been more comfortable than I’ve been in a long time and have been getting some tricks I haven’t in a while. My only complaint is I haven’t quite figured out how to max out my pop on them, I feel like if I have a ledge or something I can still get on it but my flat ground ollies feel like they have a lower ceiling. Other than that I’m feeling great on them

I felt the same for like first day or two or whatever. I just went to my favorite little bump in the hot top in Salem.

Smoked a fat cone and hit the bump till the felt right.

I worked out that I like being more in towards bolt than on the tip of the tail like I'm attacking a ledge.

That way my board is more in front of me so I could see it suck up into the air and I know I'm not going to break the tail off practicing Ollies.

That sucks when that happens.

I was riding Indy and ace since like 2016. Thunder since the end of the 80s.

Now it all feels exactly the same. I can skate any loose truck np.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drewsmahgoos on March 26, 2020, 07:22:42 AM
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Thank you rock for blessing us
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0
These people did a lot of the heavy lifting.

palelight's posts on forged vs cast was also really useful:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3065039#msg3065039
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3186320#msg3186320

Now, let's get back to the gear madness.

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Still trying to find the perfect combo for my ventures, but right now I love almost everything about them. I’ve been more comfortable than I’ve been in a long time and have been getting some tricks I haven’t in a while. My only complaint is I haven’t quite figured out how to max out my pop on them, I feel like if I have a ledge or something I can still get on it but my flat ground ollies feel like they have a lower ceiling. Other than that I’m feeling great on them
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Love them on a peculiar setup I had 8 x 32 x 14. Was riding food with Thunder 147 Lights, but amazing with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo. Revived the 4 week old deck and despite the razor tail I'm still contemplating riding it today because it felt amazing.

The standard Venture with cast plates will be pretty good for most boards with 14.25-14.38 WB, My preference for cast Ventures (V-Lights, V-Hollow. Titanium) would be short WB decks, those in the 14-14.125 range. Of course you can mix and match hollow hangers with cast plates too.

So even the 5.2 lows will have a big difference if it's a regular truck compared to a hollow or light? Hmmm,  I'm skating regular 5.2 lows and they're amazing. Best truck I've had in a while. I can still turn and the trucks aren't too squirrely which is a thing I've noticed with thunders. I'm really tall so I don't even know if I want to shrink my wheelbase with a hollow or light but maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 26, 2020, 07:31:56 AM
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Thank you rock for blessing us
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0
These people did a lot of the heavy lifting.

palelight's posts on forged vs cast was also really useful:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3065039#msg3065039
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3186320#msg3186320

Now, let's get back to the gear madness.

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Still trying to find the perfect combo for my ventures, but right now I love almost everything about them. I’ve been more comfortable than I’ve been in a long time and have been getting some tricks I haven’t in a while. My only complaint is I haven’t quite figured out how to max out my pop on them, I feel like if I have a ledge or something I can still get on it but my flat ground ollies feel like they have a lower ceiling. Other than that I’m feeling great on them
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Love them on a peculiar setup I had 8 x 32 x 14. Was riding food with Thunder 147 Lights, but amazing with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo. Revived the 4 week old deck and despite the razor tail I'm still contemplating riding it today because it felt amazing.

The standard Venture with cast plates will be pretty good for most boards with 14.25-14.38 WB, My preference for cast Ventures (V-Lights, V-Hollow. Titanium) would be short WB decks, those in the 14-14.125 range. Of course you can mix and match hollow hangers with cast plates too.
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So even the 5.2 lows will have a big difference if it's a regular truck compared to a hollow or light? Hmmm,  I'm skating regular 5.2 lows and they're amazing. Best truck I've had in a while. I can still turn and the trucks aren't too squirrely which is a thing I've noticed with thunders. I'm really tall so I don't even know if I want to shrink my wheelbase with a hollow or light but maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing...

Again it comes down to:
1) which baseplate your using
2) WB on your deck

I prefer lighter trucks, they feel more nimble so I will try to get the hollow axle and kingpin version. Used to avoid low trucks but I'm really liking them now, especially since I skate a lot of ledges so getting a good pinch is important to me.

If you're worried about WB and want to try lighter trucks, you can considering mixing the hangers and WB. Cast baseplate plus hanger with hollow axles. Some weight savings while maintaining your WB.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on March 26, 2020, 10:47:49 AM
It’s funny; I was on Indy’s for close to fifteen years but every set of Indy’s I’ve ever had (OK maybe not every set but definitely every set within the last five or six years) I always had to tinker with them; CONSTANTLY; whether it’s them always loosening up on their own and having to re-adjust them once a week JUST AS I got them to exactly how I like them, or the bushings or pivot cups giving me issues, I would always find myself tinkering around with them to get them to feel good; and it got so annoying but I just got so used to it that it became normal. With the ventures im like two months in and I just had to tinker around with them for the first two sessions, got them to how I liked them, and after that they’ve been fine; no issues whatsoever. Haven’t had to tinker with them or worry about them since.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 26, 2020, 11:17:47 AM
i would be down to try ventures again, just not the cast versions. i like a light truck but the forged versions push the axle to axle wb way further than what i would like. they seem like they would be nice on a 14-14.125 deck but those are rare in the width i like where 14.25-14.5 is standard.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on March 26, 2020, 11:21:43 AM
It’s okay I already know I’m crazy but I just wanted to point out that I really have been preparing for this moment my whole life and didn’t know it. Texas has been real lenient on this corona shit, I’ve been shredding for 4 hours a day for the past week with my job on lockdown. Parks & streets you name it, not one cop or anyone has said shit to me and my homie in the DFW area of Texas. I have 13 (9 unskated) decks, 6 pairs of ventures, 4 sets of F4 in the wrap, bolts and bearings for days. Not even counting the Swiss and F4 I have on my two current setups! Most everything was purchased last year hopping back on the wood I caught the skate bug again and I was instantly hooked. if I catch this Corona shit and die I went out with a bang. I supported my favorite skaters buying their pro model shit and I shredded harder than I did in my prime and had fun doing it.

Anyways, once my tax return hits next week I’m getting my homies VX and it’s on. I got 3 years to make my part before I hit 30 and hit serious depression assuming I make it out of this hell we are in now. I owe it all to Bobby Worrest Venture Part on thrasher. I was out of the skate scene for 8 years didn’t even think about skating doing hella drugs, playing college baseball, chasing girls. Saw dudes part and the hype behind it and I was immediately hooked. I’m a skate rat until I die. Half cabs and a set ventures in my casket that’s all I ask for.

Btw I’m not buying ANY skate shit until 2021 lol! let’s just go ahead and delete this fucking year seriously. Everything went to shit when KOBE died straight up. Everyone be safe out there keep shreddin and buy a set of Venture Trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: handsclapanin on March 26, 2020, 01:38:58 PM
ditched the top washer and it made a world of difference. other than that, all stock.
(https://i.imgur.com/tmapCwil.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 26, 2020, 07:03:48 PM
i would be down to try ventures again, just not the cast versions. i like a light truck but the forged versions push the axle to axle wb way further than what i would like. they seem like they would be nice on a 14-14.125 deck but those are rare in the width i like where 14.25-14.5 is standard.

I feel you but if I may - frankentruck

Get a nice pair of V-Hoilow or Titanium with forged plate.
Get a 2nd hand pair of standard cast plates.

Light truck with less WB shifting, only problem is you will need to own 2 pairs of trucks. Hence I recommend finding a cheap 2nd hand pair of standard Ventures with cast plates.

ditched the top washer and it made a world of difference. other than that, all stock.
(https://i.imgur.com/tmapCwil.jpg?1)


Better turn? Pinch?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: legion on March 26, 2020, 08:57:34 PM
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No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
Line them up by the bolt holes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: handsclapanin on March 27, 2020, 08:57:45 AM


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Better turn? Pinch?

better turn. I like them loose. with the washer on, I would have them loose, get tons of wheelbite but the turn still wasn't what I wanted. washer off, the turn is there. and I was able to tighten them a bit, so I'm getting less wheelbite. it actually surprised me what a difference there was. I've noticed a good number of young rippers rocking no top washer. but I had my doubts and didn't want to needlessly thrash up my bushing. now I'm a convert. give it a try. if you don't like it, you can always put it back on.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on March 27, 2020, 09:22:19 AM
People skating venture lows: how do you find that they impact basic crushing/dork shit like slappies and no complies? I am getting the annual itch to break them out but if it is going to negatively impact those basic pleasures I'm not going to do it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drewsmahgoos on March 27, 2020, 10:13:50 AM
People skating venture lows: how do you find that they impact basic crushing/dork shit like slappies and no complies? I am getting the annual itch to break them out but if it is going to negatively impact those basic pleasures I'm not going to do it.

I don't have a good curb for slappies where I've been skating but no complies are not an issue at all. They have improved my flat ground for sure. Skating an 8in ty beall scum co with 5.2 venture lows. I've also thrown them on a  7.75 deck(too skinny), and an 8.125 which was awesome as well. I don't think they've prohibited my skating at all. If anything, I'm skating better on venture lows than any other set of trucks I've tried.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tangar on March 27, 2020, 07:26:33 PM
It’s okay I already know I’m crazy but I just wanted to point out that I really have been preparing for this moment my whole life and didn’t know it. Texas has been real lenient on this corona shit, I’ve been shredding for 4 hours a day for the past week with my job on lockdown. Parks & streets you name it, not one cop or anyone has said shit to me and my homie in the DFW area of Texas. I have 13 (9 unskated) decks, 6 pairs of ventures, 4 sets of F4 in the wrap, bolts and bearings for days. Not even counting the Swiss and F4 I have on my two current setups! Most everything was purchased last year hopping back on the wood I caught the skate bug again and I was instantly hooked. if I catch this Corona shit and die I went out with a bang. I supported my favorite skaters buying their pro model shit and I shredded harder than I did in my prime and had fun doing it.

Anyways, once my tax return hits next week I’m getting my homies VX and it’s on. I got 3 years to make my part before I hit 30 and hit serious depression assuming I make it out of this hell we are in now. I owe it all to Bobby Worrest Venture Part on thrasher. I was out of the skate scene for 8 years didn’t even think about skating doing hella drugs, playing college baseball, chasing girls. Saw dudes part and the hype behind it and I was immediately hooked. I’m a skate rat until I die. Half cabs and a set ventures in my casket that’s all I ask for.

Btw I’m not buying ANY skate shit until 2021 lol! let’s just go ahead and delete this fucking year seriously. Everything went to shit when KOBE died straight up. Everyone be safe out there keep shreddin and buy a set of Venture Trucks.
#POTY
6.1 gang dudes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 28, 2020, 01:39:12 PM
What size do venture lows max out at? I don't think it exists, but just checking that theres no 5.6 venture low?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 28, 2020, 02:58:24 PM
What size do venture lows max out at? I don't think it exists, but just checking that theres no 5.6 venture low?

I was told a low 5.6 is was available not long ago by someone very reliable but didn't see it.

Maybe its about to drop. Wouldn't that be sick
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on March 28, 2020, 05:52:34 PM
https://www.paradeworld.com/uk/product/venture-polished-low-trucks-56-825-pair-12-29482445504581/

Hmmm very interesting. Wonder if these will come back or it’s a hoax. Never saw a 5.6 low in 2019 catalogs
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 28, 2020, 06:29:02 PM
Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 28, 2020, 07:06:24 PM
Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.

Would love me some Venture 5.6 Lows. The regular 5.6 is pretty hard to come by already.

Skate a pair of Lows a months ago, wheel bite aside I love the pinch and stability.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tangar on March 28, 2020, 07:20:50 PM
I put forged baseplates on my 6.1s to try them a little lower. It was too much wheel bite even with 50-52s. Using 6.1s with cast plates and 50mm has been fine. The 5.8s with forged plates seem to work fine, I never got them loose enough to have too much wheelbite. I also used them with 52mm wheels.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 28, 2020, 08:02:39 PM
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Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.
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Would love me some Venture 5.6 Lows. The regular 5.6 is pretty hard to come by already.

Skate a pair of Lows a months ago, wheel bite aside I love the pinch and stability.

How much worse would you say the wheelbite/turning is compared to highs? I get a little bit of wheelbite with the highs but not bad at all, skating ~52mm ish usually. Even venture highs don't turn amazing but they're comfortable and very sufficient so I wonder how much worse the lows are.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 28, 2020, 09:13:03 PM
I could not skate lows on a regular basis unless I came way down in board size or ran a small wheel.

Low trucks that are wideish 5.6 is definitely the cut off point where wheel bite will be unbearable to I.

Where I live in Marblehead Massachusetts there's no spots close together anymore.
 They didn't hot top the holes last year. They used this filler shit that's like wood chips kinda.

The plows blew it to pieces some places others You're car rolls the shit up like astro turf for a mall picnic around your tire.
I seen photos of wheels looking looking looking like a fuckin swiss roll.

Total shit. Death pastry rough.

There's a few purple stone spots that I skate.

But yeah low trucks (my USA made thunders) I use for this one flat bar spot. The rail is quick set up. Small wheels so they don't bite. They're 149? 8.5s

Anything elsewhere no go anymore

I always felt that low trucks were for quicker set up and little wheels where for short run ups. Also prosperous 90s ground which is gone here.

I'm pretty happy with the 5.6 high and a 55mm hard f4 classics.

It's a good atv

My manny pad hrs are paying off.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: harshrealm on March 28, 2020, 09:59:50 PM
I emailed Deluxe about 5.6 lows recently. Here’s what they told me:

I know we are thinking/talking about the 5.6 low,  and thinking sooner or later it will happen. But we still have a lot of R&D and re-tooling to do before we make it happen. But will pass off you suggestion to the team, and just keep an eye out on our social media for updates.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 28, 2020, 10:00:21 PM
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Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.
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Would love me some Venture 5.6 Lows. The regular 5.6 is pretty hard to come by already.

Skate a pair of Lows a months ago, wheel bite aside I love the pinch and stability.
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How much worse would you say the wheelbite/turning is compared to highs? I get a little bit of wheelbite with the highs but not bad at all, skating ~52mm ish usually. Even venture highs don't turn amazing but they're comfortable and very sufficient so I wonder how much worse the lows are.

Thinking back I don't think I got that much wheel bite riding 8" boards with 5.2 Lows plus 52mm wheels, I was riding stock bushing then which were definitely harder, took longer to break in and didn't turn as smoothly as Thunders. But I rode tight trucks for most of my life so turning isn't as much of a priority; pinch matters far more to me. My rationale is the harder bushings prevent too much turning to avoid wheel bite on Ventures.

I'm actually getting way more wheel bite on my Tensor Maglight ATG with Bones Soft Bushings and 53mm Easy Streets despite Tensors being a higher truck (53mm I think).

I emailed Deluxe about 5.6 lows recently. Here’s what they told me:

I know we are thinking/talking about the 5.6 low,  and thinking sooner or later it will happen. But we still have a lot of R&D and re-tooling to do before we make it happen. But will pass off you suggestion to the team, and just keep an eye out on our social media for updates.

Awww yeah, Venture 5.6 Lo on a 8.125" setup would be my jam!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 28, 2020, 10:19:21 PM
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Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.
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Would love me some Venture 5.6 Lows. The regular 5.6 is pretty hard to come by already.

Skate a pair of Lows a months ago, wheel bite aside I love the pinch and stability.
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How much worse would you say the wheelbite/turning is compared to highs? I get a little bit of wheelbite with the highs but not bad at all, skating ~52mm ish usually. Even venture highs don't turn amazing but they're comfortable and very sufficient so I wonder how much worse the lows are.
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Thinking back I don't think I got that much wheel bite riding 8" boards with 5.2 Lows plus 52mm wheels, I was riding stock bushing then which were definitely harder, took longer to break in and didn't turn as smoothly as Thunders. But I rode tight trucks for most of my life so turning isn't as much of a priority; pinch matters far more to me. My rationale is the harder bushings prevent too much turning to avoid wheel bite on Ventures.

I'm actually getting way more wheel bite on my Tensor Maglight ATG with Bones Soft Bushings and 53mm Easy Streets despite Tensors being a higher truck (53mm I think).

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I emailed Deluxe about 5.6 lows recently. Here’s what they told me:

I know we are thinking/talking about the 5.6 low,  and thinking sooner or later it will happen. But we still have a lot of R&D and re-tooling to do before we make it happen. But will pass off you suggestion to the team, and just keep an eye out on our social media for updates.
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Awww yeah, Venture 5.6 Lo on a 8.125" setup would be my jam!
i think atg was advertised as 55mm tall
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 28, 2020, 10:22:55 PM
I emailed Deluxe about 5.6 lows recently. Here’s what they told me:

I know we are thinking/talking about the 5.6 low,  and thinking sooner or later it will happen. But we still have a lot of R&D and re-tooling to do before we make it happen. But will pass off you suggestion to the team, and just keep an eye out on our social media for updates.
wonder how many people had to ask for them to start the R&D.

would backflip to try 5.8 lows
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 28, 2020, 10:48:03 PM
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Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.
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Would love me some Venture 5.6 Lows. The regular 5.6 is pretty hard to come by already.

Skate a pair of Lows a months ago, wheel bite aside I love the pinch and stability.
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How much worse would you say the wheelbite/turning is compared to highs? I get a little bit of wheelbite with the highs but not bad at all, skating ~52mm ish usually. Even venture highs don't turn amazing but they're comfortable and very sufficient so I wonder how much worse the lows are.
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Thinking back I don't think I got that much wheel bite riding 8" boards with 5.2 Lows plus 52mm wheels, I was riding stock bushing then which were definitely harder, took longer to break in and didn't turn as smoothly as Thunders. But I rode tight trucks for most of my life so turning isn't as much of a priority; pinch matters far more to me. My rationale is the harder bushings prevent too much turning to avoid wheel bite on Ventures.

I'm actually getting way more wheel bite on my Tensor Maglight ATG with Bones Soft Bushings and 53mm Easy Streets despite Tensors being a higher truck (53mm I think).

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I emailed Deluxe about 5.6 lows recently. Here’s what they told me:

I know we are thinking/talking about the 5.6 low,  and thinking sooner or later it will happen. But we still have a lot of R&D and re-tooling to do before we make it happen. But will pass off you suggestion to the team, and just keep an eye out on our social media for updates.
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Awww yeah, Venture 5.6 Lo on a 8.125" setup would be my jam!
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i think atg was advertised as 55mm tall

Damn no wonder I'm popping weird all over the place, I knew it was not my shitty skateboarding!
Lo all day - amazing how the few mm height difference completely changes how the board feels.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 29, 2020, 09:07:10 AM
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Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.
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Would love me some Venture 5.6 Lows. The regular 5.6 is pretty hard to come by already.

Skate a pair of Lows a months ago, wheel bite aside I love the pinch and stability.
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How much worse would you say the wheelbite/turning is compared to highs? I get a little bit of wheelbite with the highs but not bad at all, skating ~52mm ish usually. Even venture highs don't turn amazing but they're comfortable and very sufficient so I wonder how much worse the lows are.
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Thinking back I don't think I got that much wheel bite riding 8" boards with 5.2 Lows plus 52mm wheels, I was riding stock bushing then which were definitely harder, took longer to break in and didn't turn as smoothly as Thunders. But I rode tight trucks for most of my life so turning isn't as much of a priority; pinch matters far more to me. My rationale is the harder bushings prevent too much turning to avoid wheel bite on Ventures.

I'm actually getting way more wheel bite on my Tensor Maglight ATG with Bones Soft Bushings and 53mm Easy Streets despite Tensors being a higher truck (53mm I think).

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I emailed Deluxe about 5.6 lows recently. Here’s what they told me:

I know we are thinking/talking about the 5.6 low,  and thinking sooner or later it will happen. But we still have a lot of R&D and re-tooling to do before we make it happen. But will pass off you suggestion to the team, and just keep an eye out on our social media for updates.
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Awww yeah, Venture 5.6 Lo on a 8.125" setup would be my jam!

I would 100 percent rock a 5.6 lo on my 8.1
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 29, 2020, 09:43:24 AM
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Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.
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Would love me some Venture 5.6 Lows. The regular 5.6 is pretty hard to come by already.

Skate a pair of Lows a months ago, wheel bite aside I love the pinch and stability.
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How much worse would you say the wheelbite/turning is compared to highs? I get a little bit of wheelbite with the highs but not bad at all, skating ~52mm ish usually. Even venture highs don't turn amazing but they're comfortable and very sufficient so I wonder how much worse the lows are.
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Thinking back I don't think I got that much wheel bite riding 8" boards with 5.2 Lows plus 52mm wheels, I was riding stock bushing then which were definitely harder, took longer to break in and didn't turn as smoothly as Thunders. But I rode tight trucks for most of my life so turning isn't as much of a priority; pinch matters far more to me. My rationale is the harder bushings prevent too much turning to avoid wheel bite on Ventures.

I'm actually getting way more wheel bite on my Tensor Maglight ATG with Bones Soft Bushings and 53mm Easy Streets despite Tensors being a higher truck (53mm I think).

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I emailed Deluxe about 5.6 lows recently. Here’s what they told me:

I know we are thinking/talking about the 5.6 low,  and thinking sooner or later it will happen. But we still have a lot of R&D and re-tooling to do before we make it happen. But will pass off you suggestion to the team, and just keep an eye out on our social media for updates.
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Awww yeah, Venture 5.6 Lo on a 8.125" setup would be my jam!
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I would 100 percent rock a 5.6 lo on my 8.1

Lack of 5.6 is the only thing stopping me from swapping out my Tensors for Ventures. Got 3 boards lined up for that Venture holiday.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Festivus on March 30, 2020, 04:05:28 PM
Looks like they might be bringing back 6 hole baseplates

(https://i.ibb.co/kMbqXWc/Screenshot-20200330-154858.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 30, 2020, 04:29:22 PM
Looks like they might be bringing back 6 hole baseplates

(https://i.ibb.co/kMbqXWc/Screenshot-20200330-154858.jpg)

that's re drilled I have the a 6 hole plate still. Its not like that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on March 31, 2020, 01:14:47 PM
just want to chime in and say, i've seen many times before people talk about swapping their top washers for the flat bones ones.  i was always skeptical that it would make much of a difference.... i was actually totally fucking wrong lol.  imo it makes the turn feel much different(better)  i've had truck madness for a minute and this def cured it.  posted my setup in that thread if anyones interested
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 31, 2020, 01:22:39 PM
just want to chime in and say, i've seen many times before people talk about swapping their top washers for the flat bones ones.  i was always skeptical that it would make much of a difference.... i was actually totally fucking wrong lol.  imo it makes the turn feel much different(better)  i've had truck madness for a minute and this def cured it.  posted my setup in that thread if anyones interested

Yeah it definitely makes a difference. Though I don't know if its just me, but since the top bushing is much more exposed, I feel like its more susceptible to physical damage from smith grinds etc.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on March 31, 2020, 02:24:30 PM
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just want to chime in and say, i've seen many times before people talk about swapping their top washers for the flat bones ones.  i was always skeptical that it would make much of a difference.... i was actually totally fucking wrong lol.  imo it makes the turn feel much different(better)  i've had truck madness for a minute and this def cured it.  posted my setup in that thread if anyones interested
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Yeah it definitely makes a difference. Though I don't know if its just me, but since the top bushing is much more exposed, I feel like its more susceptible to physical damage from smith grinds etc.

agreed, i had that concern too but i cant smith yet so i'll worry about it then haha
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 31, 2020, 04:14:49 PM
just want to chime in and say, i've seen many times before people talk about swapping their top washers for the flat bones ones.  i was always skeptical that it would make much of a difference.... i was actually totally fucking wrong lol.  imo it makes the turn feel much different(better)  i've had truck madness for a minute and this def cured it.  posted my setup in that thread if anyones interested

It's partially to blame for the Indy Stage X shit turning as well. The washer binds up against the hanger after a certain point and the flat washer keeps this from happening.  If you ride tight it probably doesn't make that much of a difference.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 31, 2020, 06:58:04 PM
Can you buy bones washers by themselves? Using with stock bushings better off?
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Post by: rocklobster on March 31, 2020, 07:27:50 PM
Can you buy bones washers by themselves? Using with stock bushings better off?

Dude asking the real questions here!
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Post by: legion on March 31, 2020, 07:53:56 PM
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Can you buy bones washers by themselves? Using with stock bushings better off?
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Dude asking the real questions here!
I think I geeked on it in another thread. They look like shim washers to me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 31, 2020, 07:57:27 PM
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Can you buy bones washers by themselves? Using with stock bushings better off?
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Dude asking the real questions here!
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I think I geeked on it in another thread. They look like shim washers to me.
which? Yeah they do. I’m just a stock bushing + washer ride em and break em in type, but willing to try during these times
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: legion on March 31, 2020, 08:36:13 PM
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Can you buy bones washers by themselves? Using with stock bushings better off?
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Dude asking the real questions here!
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I think I geeked on it in another thread. They look like shim washers to me.
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which? Yeah they do. I’m just a stock bushing + washer ride em and break em in type, but willing to try during these times
https://www.mcmaster.com/92217a520 pretty thin

https://www.mcmaster.com/93320a300 1/8" thick

https://www.mcmaster.com/shim-rings Search by ID, speedrings in here too
https://www.mcmaster.com/92668a195 Not cheap

https://www.mcmaster.com/shoulder-screw-shims Speedrings here

Before all this corona mess I'd planned on checking my local Ace and then an industrial hardware store.
I should also get some Bones bushings for reference..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on April 01, 2020, 03:59:44 AM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indy’s and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but I’m wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but don’t know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause I’m kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is what’s kinda getting me shook.
I have ordered 5.6 venture v light for my 8 flip board, and then i will swith to my primitive 8.125 when flip board is wrecked. Did you do tricks and shit with the 8.25 board and 149 indys? Because i have seen alot of people who ride wider trucks but just crusing. So im a bit worried cuz i want to do tech and also want stability. But i usally dont like 8 trucks. But im starting to think i made a mistake, that thunder 8 trucks are the best 8 truck out there. Wahtever will skate these for a good minute and after that consider if i want 8 ventures with 8 board. Thunders are okay 8 trucks to but i just like wider for the extra grind space and for the feeling of wider trucks always feels better to ride and adds to confidence.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on April 01, 2020, 05:27:59 AM
I would say anything 14-14.38 would be a good wheelbase with venture depending on preference of course. Any higher than that would be crazy long! I have every model of venture except the hollows but I’m sure they are great. Been banging raw ventures and titaniums in my 2 current setups. I’m also on 8-8.25 like you so venture is great trust me :)
Are you skating 5.6 or 5.2 with your 8.0 to 8.25 boards? I got the 5.6 for my 8 board and next board i have is a primitive 14 wb, 8.125. Im really really crious and OCDed about this. Mayby should i have bought 5.2. Im thinking of mayby grind down my axels on the 5.6 just a tiny tiny bit so they fit 8 boards better and 8.125. If there is room for it with the wheels going on with the nuts all the way in. Wouldnt do it myself, i would go to some blacksmith or ask my dad he knows how to do these things right. Or its a bad idéa? Ocourse i wouldnt do it right away would skate with them alot first. Sorry for moaning about this everywere on the forum. Truck nerd and only have OCD when it comes to skateboard.  ;D

Edit: I forget to say that i dont have the trucks yet, ordered from Germany or mayby it was UK. And im a bit afraid they wont come anyway soon cause of corona and shit. But i think they said on their webside skatedeluxe. Dont worry stay at home we still send out products, but mayby they ment only in their country.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on April 01, 2020, 06:02:54 AM
Can you buy bones washers by themselves? Using with stock bushings better off?

the other dude above a few posts kind of answered the solo washer question.  i personally like the feeling of the stock bushings as opposed to fully going with the bones set.  one thing worth noting is that i did have to tighten my trucks after i swapped.  when i was riding the bushings totally stock i was maybe 2 turns from the kingpin being flush, once i put the bones washer on, i tightened them up to actually be flush
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on April 01, 2020, 06:30:24 AM
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the other dude above a few posts kind of answered the solo washer question.  i personally like the feeling of the stock bushings as opposed to fully going with the bones set.  one thing worth noting is that i did have to tighten my trucks after i swapped.  when i was riding the bushings totally stock i was maybe 2 turns from the kingpin being flush, once i put the bones washer on, i tightened them up to actually be flush
yeah that’s how I am now with stock. 200 lbs I don’t like em too loose. Thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on April 01, 2020, 06:31:16 AM
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that's re drilled I have the a 6 hole plate still. Its not like that.
Why would Koston redrill his baseplate?? Smaller WB?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 01, 2020, 07:02:29 AM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indy’s and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but I’m wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but don’t know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause I’m kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is what’s kinda getting me shook.
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I have ordered 5.6 venture v light for my 8 flip board, and then i will swith to my primitive 8.125 when flip board is wrecked. Did you do tricks and shit with the 8.25 board and 149 indys? Because i have seen alot of people who ride wider trucks but just crusing. So im a bit worried cuz i want to do tech and also want stability. But i usally dont like 8 trucks. But im starting to think i made a mistake, that thunder 8 trucks are the best 8 truck out there. Wahtever will skate these for a good minute and after that consider if i want 8 ventures with 8 board. Thunders are okay 8 trucks to but i just like wider for the extra grind space and for the feeling of wider trucks always feels better to ride and adds to confidence.
I had the 5.6 on both and 8 and a 8.1 and it’s fine. I preferred it over the 5.2 and I skated them both back to back.
149 is fine for 8.25 and 8.25 is more than fine for 8.1

I did not feel any advantage for tricks on the smaller trucks and I felt less consistent on grinds because I never would lock on straight against the wheel . Maybe tre flips were a tiny bit easier but nothing that would warrant a smaller truck when I much preferred the 5.6
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on April 01, 2020, 07:05:31 AM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indy’s and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but I’m wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but don’t know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause I’m kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is what’s kinda getting me shook.
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I have ordered 5.6 venture v light for my 8 flip board, and then i will swith to my primitive 8.125 when flip board is wrecked. Did you do tricks and shit with the 8.25 board and 149 indys? Because i have seen alot of people who ride wider trucks but just crusing. So im a bit worried cuz i want to do tech and also want stability. But i usally dont like 8 trucks. But im starting to think i made a mistake, that thunder 8 trucks are the best 8 truck out there. Wahtever will skate these for a good minute and after that consider if i want 8 ventures with 8 board. Thunders are okay 8 trucks to but i just like wider for the extra grind space and for the feeling of wider trucks always feels better to ride and adds to confidence.
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I had the 5.6 on both and 8 and a 8.1 and it’s fine. I preferred it over the 5.2 and I skated them both back to back.
149 is fine for 8.25 and 8.25 is more than fine for 8.1

Okay thanks exactly the answer i needed. I wont worry more about it!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on April 01, 2020, 07:30:15 AM
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Looks like they might be bringing back 6 hole baseplates

(https://i.ibb.co/kMbqXWc/Screenshot-20200330-154858.jpg)
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that's re drilled I have the a 6 hole plate still. Its not like that.
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Why would Koston redrill his baseplate?? Smaller WB?

Yeah, having a truck where you can change the WB to shorted up the tail or lengthen up the nose or whatever.

That being said, I think him trying a manufactured sample of an adjustable WB truck makes a lot more sense than him re-drilling a standard. He owns Numbers and could easily get multiple boards in the same shape with a different WB, which would make a lot more sense than going through the trouble of drilling 4 new holes in each baseplate. Who knows though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 01, 2020, 07:49:39 AM
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Looks like they might be bringing back 6 hole baseplates

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that's re drilled I have the a 6 hole plate still. Its not like that.
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Why would Koston redrill his baseplate?? Smaller WB?

I'm guessing kingpin position more than wb but could be a combination..

That's the reason venture turn this way is the axle is above the bolts and the kingpin angle is more vertical and centered in the plate.

This pretty much porked the venture. Respect to koston for being a truck nerd. I never liked his sk
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 01, 2020, 07:54:43 AM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indy’s and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but I’m wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but don’t know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause I’m kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is what’s kinda getting me shook.
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I have ordered 5.6 venture v light for my 8 flip board, and then i will swith to my primitive 8.125 when flip board is wrecked. Did you do tricks and shit with the 8.25 board and 149 indys? Because i have seen alot of people who ride wider trucks but just crusing. So im a bit worried cuz i want to do tech and also want stability. But i usally dont like 8 trucks. But im starting to think i made a mistake, that thunder 8 trucks are the best 8 truck out there. Wahtever will skate these for a good minute and after that consider if i want 8 ventures with 8 board. Thunders are okay 8 trucks to but i just like wider for the extra grind space and for the feeling of wider trucks always feels better to ride and adds to confidence.
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I had the 5.6 on both and 8 and a 8.1 and it’s fine. I preferred it over the 5.2 and I skated them both back to back.
149 is fine for 8.25 and 8.25 is more than fine for 8.1
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Okay thanks exactly the answer i needed. I wont worry more about it!

Can't wait for my 5.6 V-Hollow to come in later this month. 5.8 on a Primitive 8.25 felt stable but the added weight and width made the board too clunky for me. 5.2 on a 8" with a 14" WB was a great combination in terms of having a nimble board but still a touch too small for tricks where I wanted more real estate like BS Smiths. 5.6 is the sweet spot IMO. I think it really comes down to what Forged and Cast baseplates will affect your WB.

I would be the first one to order Venture 5.6 Lo in all variations if and when they get launched, hell I would even pay full price!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 01, 2020, 08:02:44 AM
Must fight the urge to rag on kooks board selection.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 01, 2020, 11:56:21 AM
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I would say anything 14-14.38 would be a good wheelbase with venture depending on preference of course. Any higher than that would be crazy long! I have every model of venture except the hollows but I’m sure they are great. Been banging raw ventures and titaniums in my 2 current setups. I’m also on 8-8.25 like you so venture is great trust me :)
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Are you skating 5.6 or 5.2 with your 8.0 to 8.25 boards? I got the 5.6 for my 8 board and next board i have is a primitive 14 wb, 8.125. Im really really crious and OCDed about this. Mayby should i have bought 5.2. Im thinking of mayby grind down my axels on the 5.6 just a tiny tiny bit so they fit 8 boards better and 8.125. If there is room for it with the wheels going on with the nuts all the way in. Wouldnt do it myself, i would go to some blacksmith or ask my dad he knows how to do these things right. Or its a bad idéa? Ocourse i wouldnt do it right away would skate with them alot first. Sorry for moaning about this everywere on the forum. Truck nerd and only have OCD when it comes to skateboard.  ;D

Edit: I forget to say that i dont have the trucks yet, ordered from Germany or mayby it was UK. And im a bit afraid they wont come anyway soon cause of corona and shit. But i think they said on their webside skatedeluxe. Dont worry stay at home we still send out products, but mayby they ment only in their country.

Yeah it all depends what I wanna skate, if I need a quick tech/ledge/line I go 5.2 with 8.1 and if I’m trying to huck I go 5.6 and 8.25
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 01, 2020, 04:20:42 PM
I suggest that anyone who likes flip ins to try a magic carpet set up.

Back when I had the power to flip in to whatever ledge basic I had on lock my preference was the smallest thunders with an 1/8 riser and a squashed dook? foam riser. I have no idea what the deal was with that after market piece? Free is free

 I forgot the number of the thunder low but they fit an 7.5 flush on the rail (primo) I still got a set

I started using whatever was at the shop that was between 7.75 and 8" at first because no one wanted a big ass very board except the homie Ian

I learned all my flip in basics on that type of set up because i think more grip faster flip.
Smaller truck faster flip.

Magic carpet is something I think tech guys sleep on. You can run a wheel over 44mm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rob on April 01, 2020, 04:40:50 PM
I have a 8.125 primitive 14” wheelbase with venture 5.6 v hollows forged baseplate Setup

Rides very good

Trucks turn decently, close to Indy but not as deep and sharp

But like a straighter stable Indy

I think I said it before, venture hi feel like indys trying to turn and be stable like thunders

Goes half and half on each trucks characteristics

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 01, 2020, 08:06:00 PM
Lotta good venture threads on tactics 20%off right now, go cop!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 01, 2020, 09:45:26 PM
Lotta good venture threads on tactics 20%off right now, go cop!

Unfortunately those are the 5.0 and 5.8. Should have gotten a pair of 5.6 a few weeks ago when Ambush and Socal were offering 15% off.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 01, 2020, 10:21:00 PM
Threads
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jamersonbass on April 02, 2020, 04:55:03 PM
I've had 2 sessions on my 6.1's.  Dead stock.

I agree with Rob that they're like a toss up between Indy and Thunder.  I really like the stability, while still being able to turn where I want for the most part.  And to me, they don't wheelbite as much as Thunder.  Granted, I don't skate tranny at all.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 02, 2020, 07:15:29 PM
I've had 2 sessions on my 6.1's.  Dead stock.

I agree with Rob that they're like a toss up between Indy and Thunder.  I really like the stability, while still being able to turn where I want for the most part.  And to me, they don't wheelbite as much as Thunder.  Granted, I don't skate tranny at all.

I see Thunders as being the middle truck, between Indy and Thunder. Get the balance of WB lengthening, turning and pnch, but compromise on slide.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on April 03, 2020, 02:47:56 AM
I wish venture would make an all hollow truck with the standard team baseplates.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 03, 2020, 05:39:37 AM
I wish venture would make an all hollow truck with the standard team baseplates.
Same here. For some reason I though that they did
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 03, 2020, 09:58:51 AM
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Same here. For some reason I though that they did

And make it available in a 5.6
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 03, 2020, 10:07:50 AM
Rocking a titanium hanger (5.6) on a cast plate right now. Pretty dreamy setup
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 03, 2020, 10:34:07 AM
how much heavier/taller is the cast plate than the forged? I know the forged plate is lower and stretches the wb a bit but how noticeable a difference is it in comparison? My forged plates feel p good
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 03, 2020, 10:41:04 AM
Gotta be 1.5 mm like other cast v forged I’m assuming. I don’t notice much difference but I like the extra heft of the cast plate and solid kingpin. I have all my forged plates for my 14wb boards. Cast on 14.2 or up!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 03, 2020, 12:00:28 PM
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And make it available in a 5.6
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 03, 2020, 12:11:32 PM
Rocking a titanium hanger (5.6) on a cast plate right now. Pretty dreamy setup

lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 03, 2020, 12:27:58 PM
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lol.
Laugh it up pal  :P
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: legion on April 03, 2020, 12:44:48 PM
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lol.
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Laugh it up pal  :P
Hey. I'm gonna go full goon too and do Ticast Indy's. Once I change the bushings they'll be about $100 retail. Doesn't make me feel kooky, not at all. And I never trip on having a board that is worth almost $300.
But really.. I'm gonna run ticast..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 03, 2020, 01:04:29 PM

Hey. I'm gonna go full goon too and do Ticast Indy's. Once I change the bushings they'll be about $100 retail. Doesn't make me feel kooky, not at all. And I never trip on having a board that is worth almost $300.
But really.. I'm gonna run ticast..
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Nothing wrong with that I use to run indy tits for a couple years never had any problems with all 3 pair. Switched to venture this year. It’s basically all the same shit I just feel better about myself getting away from the indy image in my opinion
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 03, 2020, 03:31:48 PM
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lol.
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Laugh it up pal  :P

I thought it was a joke.
Dreamy awake.... I wish I had a ti 5.6. I had no idea they made that. I'd be stroked for a 5.6 hollow hanger.

My last hollow truck was a g&s like v3? Had less plastic
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: The.Tran.Man on April 07, 2020, 11:57:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaEGpgeUO8U

Evan is riding Ventures in the Embarcadero clips
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 07, 2020, 12:46:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaEGpgeUO8U

Evan is riding Ventures in the Embarcadero clips

that would be so sick.

That was a killer video.  Bump to Crook fs n flip. Was Dayem
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on April 07, 2020, 01:58:56 PM
is there a general opinion between the lights/titaniums vs standard ventures?  i have a set of 5.8ti's thats on my regular setup, i was thinking of getting a pair of 6.1s for a cruiser.  thoughts?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 07, 2020, 02:51:32 PM
is there a general opinion between the lights/titaniums vs standard ventures?  i have a set of 5.8ti's thats on my regular setup, i was thinking of getting a pair of 6.1s for a cruiser.  thoughts?
do it you will love both
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 07, 2020, 02:57:26 PM
is there a general opinion between the lights/titaniums vs standard ventures?  i have a set of 5.8ti's thats on my regular setup, i was thinking of getting a pair of 6.1s for a cruiser.  thoughts?

The vlights/titaniums/hollows have forged baseplates which means that they are lower and stretch the wheelbase out a bit more so than standard ventures with cast plates. You may like this more or less depending on your personal preferences. Besides that, the titaniums are significantly lighter than even the v-lights. Just set up some vlights (forged plate, hollow kingpin, solid axle) after retiring my titaniums, haven't skated them properly yet but just carrying the board and popping, the additional heft (which isn't necessarily bad) is definitely noticeable.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on April 07, 2020, 02:59:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaEGpgeUO8U

Evan is riding Ventures in the Embarcadero clips


that would be pretty cool, but im pretty sure that was a homies board.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on April 08, 2020, 02:25:08 AM
Just had my first two sessions on a new set of 5.2 titanium hi's and really really liking them so far. Got them on a really short board (WB just below 14") and the pop is amazing, the board just sticks to my back foot. Compared to the Indys I had before I don't feel a difference when I'm grinding a crusty curb, but I definitely notice a bit sharper, more sudden turn... Nothing to bad, just noticable. Hoping that will get a bit more mellow and smoother as the stock bushing break in a bit more. What is your experience with that? Never messed with aftermarket bushings in any of my trucks so far...

P.S.: The only thing I really don't like is the golden baseplate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 08, 2020, 08:31:50 AM
Just had my first two sessions on a new set of 5.2 titanium hi's and really really liking them so far. Got them on a really short board (WB just below 14") and the pop is amazing, the board just sticks to my back foot. Compared to the Indys I had before I don't feel a difference when I'm grinding a crusty curb, but I definitely notice a bit sharper, more sudden turn... Nothing to bad, just noticable. Hoping that will get a bit more mellow and smoother as the stock bushing break in a bit more. What is your experience with that? Never messed with aftermarket bushings in any of my trucks so far...

P.S.: The only thing I really don't like is the golden baseplate.

Mind sharing the setup? I have a 7.75 x 31.3 x 14 traffic board that I've been wanting to setup again with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow after not finding success with Indy 139 Hollow and Thunder Hollow Lights.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on April 08, 2020, 08:41:46 AM
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Just had my first two sessions on a new set of 5.2 titanium hi's and really really liking them so far. Got them on a really short board (WB just below 14") and the pop is amazing, the board just sticks to my back foot. Compared to the Indys I had before I don't feel a difference when I'm grinding a crusty curb, but I definitely notice a bit sharper, more sudden turn... Nothing to bad, just noticable. Hoping that will get a bit more mellow and smoother as the stock bushing break in a bit more. What is your experience with that? Never messed with aftermarket bushings in any of my trucks so far...

P.S.: The only thing I really don't like is the golden baseplate.
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Mind sharing the setup? I have a 7.75 x 31.3 x 14 traffic board that I've been wanting to setup again with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow after not finding success with Indy 139 Hollow and Thunder Hollow Lights.

It's a Becky 8" deck (don't know overall length) with a 13.9 WB. Running 54 F4 tablets (probably down to 53/52 now) since all parks are closed during the lockdown and I have to visit the crustier spots. Not more wheelbite as with my forged hollow Indys – they are the same height after all. So far I can totally recommend them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 09, 2020, 03:41:03 PM
Any of you fellas tried your Venture's on a 14.5 wb? If so how was it? Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 09, 2020, 03:53:36 PM
Any of you fellas tried your Venture's on a 14.5 wb? If so how was it? Thanks!

hefty but good yield, was fine for me because I was just coming down from longer wheelbases too. might be a bit much if you're used to stuff much shorter though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 09, 2020, 04:21:31 PM
Any of you fellas tried your Venture's on a 14.5 wb? If so how was it? Thanks!


It took like 12 skate hrs to normalize was like a 1/2" wb change because I was riding Ace on the older board

I had issues with impossible and switch front big spins which is abnormal. That fixed its self.

 I'm back on a shorter WB again and things are really working out. I feel like throwing the bigger WB has strengthened my powers too.

The gains I've experienced at the ledge and with straight flip tricks is worth the large wb change.

The thing id be worried about was the fingers of flat. That's the most important thing about ventures I feel. So if you got a 14.5 WB I hope the board is 32 or better
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 09, 2020, 04:23:51 PM
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hefty but good yield, was fine for me because I was just coming down from longer wheelbases too. might be a bit much if you're used to stuff much shorter though.
Thanks! I always have used 14.25, I wasn't sure if it will make a huge difference or not. Im definitely not looking to have to put more effort into fliptricks, I just wanted to try something different.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 09, 2020, 04:31:43 PM
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It took like 12 skate hrs to normalize was like a 1/2" wb change because I was riding Ace on the older board

I had issues with impossible and switch front big spins which is abnormal. That fixed its self.

 I'm back on a shorter WB again and things are really working out. I feel like throwing the bigger WB has strengthened my powers too.

The gains I've experienced at the ledge and with straight flip tricks is worth the large wb change.

The thing id be worried about was the fingers of flat. That's the most important thing about ventures I feel. So if you got a 14.5 WB I hope the board is 32 or better
Yes sir its 32.2, I am mainly concerned about 360 flips and impossibles becoming more effort.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on April 09, 2020, 05:45:09 PM
They will undoubtedly become way more effort.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Willie on April 10, 2020, 07:21:04 AM
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It took like 12 skate hrs to normalize was like a 1/2" wb change because I was riding Ace on the older board

I had issues with impossible and switch front big spins which is abnormal. That fixed its self.

 I'm back on a shorter WB again and things are really working out. I feel like throwing the bigger WB has strengthened my powers too.

The gains I've experienced at the ledge and with straight flip tricks is worth the large wb change.

The thing id be worried about was the fingers of flat. That's the most important thing about ventures I feel. So if you got a 14.5 WB I hope the board is 32 or better
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Yes sir its 32.2, I am mainly concerned about 360 flips and impossibles becoming more effort.

I ride long WBs on Ventures. I’m tall-ish and until recently skated a lot of transition. It’s an OK setup for that but it’s dogshit for tech.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 10, 2020, 11:17:16 AM
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It took like 12 skate hrs to normalize was like a 1/2" wb change because I was riding Ace on the older board

I had issues with impossible and switch front big spins which is abnormal. That fixed its self.

 I'm back on a shorter WB again and things are really working out. I feel like throwing the bigger WB has strengthened my powers too.

The gains I've experienced at the ledge and with straight flip tricks is worth the large wb change.

The thing id be worried about was the fingers of flat. That's the most important thing about ventures I feel. So if you got a 14.5 WB I hope the board is 32 or better
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Yes sir its 32.2, I am mainly concerned about 360 flips and impossibles becoming more effort.
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I ride long WBs on Ventures. I’m tall-ish and until recently skated a lot of transition. It’s an OK setup for that but it’s dogshit for tech.
Thanks for the heads up, I will just put my indy 144's on it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FredGallsBallz on April 10, 2020, 01:37:06 PM
There doesn't appear to be an official Venture replacement bushing set available. What other brands would be close to what comes stock on Ventures?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 10, 2020, 01:40:43 PM
There doesn't appear to be an official Venture replacement bushing set available. What other brands would be close to what comes stock on Ventures?
dlx supercush, ace lows, bones, indy cylinders all work
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FredGallsBallz on April 10, 2020, 02:07:49 PM
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thanks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 10, 2020, 02:37:34 PM
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I think the ace lows only work as the top bushing, for the bottom you might need ace normals
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 10, 2020, 03:17:19 PM
There doesn't appear to be an official Venture replacement bushing set available. What other brands would be close to what comes stock on Ventures?
I’ve had two duros of supercush and they broke in within an hour
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on April 10, 2020, 04:21:59 PM
There doesn't appear to be an official Venture replacement bushing set available. What other brands would be close to what comes stock on Ventures?
I’m using the hard Doh Dohs and they work perfect. The bottom bushing is a tad bit taller than the stock venture bottom bushing though, so it’s probably gonna throw the geometry a bit off, but it’s nothing I could notice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 10, 2020, 04:37:39 PM
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I think the ace lows only work as the top bushing, for the bottom you might need ace normals

Good catch TZ! You still running those 8.25-8.3 quasi’s?
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Post by: tzhangdox on April 10, 2020, 04:49:10 PM
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Good catch TZ! You still running those 8.25-8.3 quasi’s?

I'm skating the 8.25 I got right now. 14.37 wb just under 32 length. Shape is pretty good, took me a few sessions to get used to how flat it was, especially because I was coming from a super steep DOA shape. At first it felt like the board was a month old lol.

Flat shape is feeling pretty good now, I definitely prefer flatter kicks over steep ones especially on Ventures for what I skate. I quite like the shape of the kicks too, not stupid square but still a nice full shape with a well defined zone to flick off of. If anything, perhaps a slightly steeper tail would be nice but not necessary.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be that durable, seems to chip/dent/pressure crack a bit easier than generator boards... only been about 2 weeks and its still great for now, but the early symptoms aren't so promising. I definitely think generator wood is more reliable, whereas PS is a bit more hit or miss.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on April 12, 2020, 04:07:52 AM
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I think the ace lows only work as the top bushing, for the bottom you might need ace normals
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Good catch TZ! You still running those 8.25-8.3 quasi’s?
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I'm skating the 8.25 I got right now. 14.37 wb just under 32 length. Shape is pretty good, took me a few sessions to get used to how flat it was, especially because I was coming from a super steep DOA shape. At first it felt like the board was a month old lol.

Flat shape is feeling pretty good now, I definitely prefer flatter kicks over steep ones especially on Ventures for what I skate. I quite like the shape of the kicks too, not stupid square but still a nice full shape with a well defined zone to flick off of. If anything, perhaps a slightly steeper tail would be nice but not necessary.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be that durable, seems to chip/dent/pressure crack a bit easier than generator boards... only been about 2 weeks and its still great for now, but the early symptoms aren't so promising. I definitely think generator wood is more reliable, whereas PS is a bit more hit or miss.

Got my new setup, hopefully will go to the park today. Got Primitive 8.125, WB 14 amd Venture 5.6. Primitve feels good to stand on im hyped, i just wonder if the tail might be very steep. And if fingers of flat, is more positive with Venture if you like small wheelbase or less fingers of flat better? Want snappy pop, im afraid of ghost popping alot, but as fast i get used to the Ventures im sure i will like it more and more. Also thinking about flater boards may be better for Venture, just a thought. Flat boards i have had before have suprisingly made flip tricks cleaner.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on April 12, 2020, 05:02:57 AM
Was just out with the new setup to the store, felt great, a bit more ghost popping especially the first ollies. But felt like after every try i got more adjusted. I might go to the pool today again, clean floor, just to get adjusted. Its a small squared pool straight floor with awsome ground, feels good to ride on and just do manuals feels good. Its empty of water this time of year. The sad thing is sometimes angry wiches come and scream at you. Yesterday i was super nice to everyone who looked or came by, also joked with the old ladies on the bench when i went away to make it more positive and less angry people, they see im just human falling practicing.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: weon on April 15, 2020, 02:30:53 PM
switched my cruiser's 169s for 6.1s and its pretty cray! honestly did not expect these ventures to turn so deep. thank you a-list bobby <3

only problem is im getting much more wheelbite on my mini super juices. gotta be honest and say i hate risers; they are not going on any of my setups. should i move on from stock bushings or just try to tighten them? i might have some orange indy and/or bones hard bushings somewhere in this house... i think
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on April 15, 2020, 03:45:25 PM
If your 6.1 are brand new then they will tighten up after an hour or so if riding. I was shocked by how squishy mine felt at first. Once mine tightened up I swapped the top washer for a flat bones washer like I did on my 5.8 and they are feeling good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
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I think the ace lows only work as the top bushing, for the bottom you might need ace normals
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Good catch TZ! You still running those 8.25-8.3 quasi’s?
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I'm skating the 8.25 I got right now. 14.37 wb just under 32 length. Shape is pretty good, took me a few sessions to get used to how flat it was, especially because I was coming from a super steep DOA shape. At first it felt like the board was a month old lol.

Flat shape is feeling pretty good now, I definitely prefer flatter kicks over steep ones especially on Ventures for what I skate. I quite like the shape of the kicks too, not stupid square but still a nice full shape with a well defined zone to flick off of. If anything, perhaps a slightly steeper tail would be nice but not necessary.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be that durable, seems to chip/dent/pressure crack a bit easier than generator boards... only been about 2 weeks and its still great for now, but the early symptoms aren't so promising. I definitely think generator wood is more reliable, whereas PS is a bit more hit or miss.
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Got my new setup, hopefully will go to the park today. Got Primitive 8.125, WB 14 amd Venture 5.6. Primitve feels good to stand on im hyped, i just wonder if the tail might be very steep. And if fingers of flat, is more positive with Venture if you like small wheelbase or less fingers of flat better? Want snappy pop, im afraid of ghost popping alot, but as fast i get used to the Ventures im sure i will like it more and more. Also thinking about flater boards may be better for Venture, just a thought. Flat boards i have had before have suprisingly made flip tricks cleaner.

I'm about to setup an 8.125" Primitive on 5.6s (previously riding Tensors on it). I've ridden 8.25/8.3/8.125 primitives of late, I love to hate them. Fucking Dragon ball z graphics on killer shapes :P but whatever. Love the shapes and they pair the best with ventures/thunders, i.e., lower trucks that push out the wheelbase some (tho ribero rides indies on these 14" WB soooo); My manuls on the primitives with ventures worked great for me and I am not a 'manual guy'.

I find the decks are pretty flat, full with medium kicks and short tails (8.25" have long tails oddly). Shapes are full/round, not point, not blunt.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on April 15, 2020, 04:27:44 PM

switched my cruiser's 169s for 6.1s and its pretty cray! honestly did not expect these ventures to turn so deep. thank you a-list bobby <3


only problem is im getting much more wheelbite on my mini super juices. gotta be honest and say i hate risers; they are not going on any of my setups. should i move on from stock bushings or just try to tighten them? i might have some orange indy and/or bones hard bushings somewhere in this house... i think

Did the same on my Dane 1. Change the 169 + risers to 6.1 for a few. Popped good. I ordered 97a supercush to not have to tighten the stock (yellow bottom, thunder top) bushings even more after breaking em in a bit. I waa getting some wheel bite  being 20lbs w 54mm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CBP on April 15, 2020, 07:42:41 PM
In case anyone else was wondering.

(https://i.imgur.com/TnvSbO8.png)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 15, 2020, 07:48:34 PM
In case anyone else was wondering.

(https://i.imgur.com/TnvSbO8.png)

I thought it stopped in 2016
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 15, 2020, 08:30:47 PM
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In case anyone else was wondering.

(https://i.imgur.com/TnvSbO8.png)
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I thought it stopped in 2016

More reason to support, if true.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: palelight on April 15, 2020, 09:10:15 PM
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In case anyone else was wondering.

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I thought it stopped in 2016

A while ago I think the consensus was they're still made in SF, but with the use of hardware (nuts, kingpins, washers, bushings etc.) sourced from overseas/Mexico they don't stamp "USA" anymore on the baseplate. Which was where Indy caught hell under some federal guideline when they were still stamping their baseplate using imported hardware on the truck.

Probably would help if DLX attached a tag with "Made in USA with foreign and domestic parts" or something.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on April 16, 2020, 07:09:23 AM
thats awesome to see that theyre still made in the US....or at least mostly


additionally, does anyone have a pair of 5.8 v-lights they would like to sell me?  ;D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 16, 2020, 07:37:29 AM
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In case anyone else was wondering.

(https://i.imgur.com/TnvSbO8.png)
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I thought it stopped in 2016
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More reason to support, if true.

that's bullshit man something fucked off you don't keep sending it money.

Why you stirring up MUD. People need to get on ventures like yesterday.

I want local trucks.  Also we lost that lotties shirt shit. Fucking Nazis are still on it.

I was about to order one yesterday but I took the time to where's waldo the back of a black t.

Shalom
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on April 16, 2020, 10:11:01 AM
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In case anyone else was wondering.

(https://i.imgur.com/TnvSbO8.png)
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I thought it stopped in 2016
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More reason to support, if true.
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that's bullshit man something fucked off you don't keep sending it money.

Why you stirring up MUD. People need to get on ventures like yesterday.

I want local trucks.  Also we lost that lotties shirt shit. Fucking Nazis are still on it.

I was about to order one yesterday but I took the time to where's waldo the back of a black t.

Shalom
orchard didn’t have the lotties shop specific tee?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: weon on April 16, 2020, 11:57:04 AM
yup i was gonna order the Labor one but when I saw Two Felons still up there the stoke dissipated real quick...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 16, 2020, 12:00:25 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/t7G2Yf8UJseAGWaFkSvbbfEGMYzkkE5YWx5N0pvSKVzDkUCf7x_eCPIidjc6fgZhnO02AHkJB-bmGkUCJTwB_INL5IE4KRkCqZCeq_niBfZ6yOi2h-e4NISpXTACZNzmuezHtA1SY7k)

As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:


Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on April 16, 2020, 12:59:39 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/t7G2Yf8UJseAGWaFkSvbbfEGMYzkkE5YWx5N0pvSKVzDkUCf7x_eCPIidjc6fgZhnO02AHkJB-bmGkUCJTwB_INL5IE4KRkCqZCeq_niBfZ6yOi2h-e4NISpXTACZNzmuezHtA1SY7k)

As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

Wow!  You win the tech truck award.  I can't help but notice though, 1" hardware and yet you have special Ti nuts?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 16, 2020, 01:08:42 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/t7G2Yf8UJseAGWaFkSvbbfEGMYzkkE5YWx5N0pvSKVzDkUCf7x_eCPIidjc6fgZhnO02AHkJB-bmGkUCJTwB_INL5IE4KRkCqZCeq_niBfZ6yOi2h-e4NISpXTACZNzmuezHtA1SY7k)

As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.

Wow, are those kingpins/axle nuts and the machined washers worth it over the normal bones flat top and normal kingpin/axle nuts? Any differences besides the aesthetics? I always end up getting green riptides but the light blue ones look super sick, wonder if they feel different... And as always tempted to try the ace bushing combo, but reluctant to buy two sets of bushings for it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 16, 2020, 01:53:29 PM
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/t7G2Yf8UJseAGWaFkSvbbfEGMYzkkE5YWx5N0pvSKVzDkUCf7x_eCPIidjc6fgZhnO02AHkJB-bmGkUCJTwB_INL5IE4KRkCqZCeq_niBfZ6yOi2h-e4NISpXTACZNzmuezHtA1SY7k)

As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P
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Wow!  You win the tech truck award.  I can't help but notice though, 1" hardware and yet you have special Ti nuts?

They're actually 7/8" Thunder bolts with Shorty's nuts - I never actually checked to see if the Shorty's bolts were shorter than regular brands. Will dismantle a bolt and check. EDIT: They're the same size as all the bolts I have kicking around...forged plate and low profile bolts is all.

Wow, are those kingpins/axle nuts and the machined washers worth it over the normal bones flat top and normal kingpin/axle nuts? Any differences besides the aesthetics? I always end up getting green riptides but the light blue ones look super sick, wonder if they feel different... And as always tempted to try the ace bushing combo, but reluctant to buy two sets of bushings for it.

Probably not :P

Riptide says they are molded for each truck, specifically, perhaps they are right but I've never noticed a difference, besides, it's plastic/urethane, it will squash out and deform anyway. There is a noticeable difference between the ACE and Indy ones tho, you can see it just looking at them (the ACE have a taller 'lip').

When I jumped on the Venture 2020 bandwagon, the only way I could get them to feel right was with Bones Softs and the Ace combo...the conicals felt tippy to me and the ACEs more how I think Venture (since they come with barrels stock) are supposed to feel. Personally ANY trucks that runs barrels feels better with ACEs dual duro combo. YMMV.

The Ti nuts for axle and pins are lower profile, I was able to get in an extra washer on the axles (inside); they're not that much lower, 1-2 mm maybe...they are, however much lighter if that matters.

The washers do give the bushings a bit more snap, I rode them without prior. I like flat washers as it is as they won't bind on the top bushing (venture stock washer do this) and a flat bottom, if you ride loose, let's the bottom bushing fully deform.

Probably not worth it at all but I'm bored :P
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on April 16, 2020, 02:14:30 PM
hell yeah Xen haha love the truck madness.  i swapped the gold baseplate on my Ti's for a silver forged plate from a pair V-lights also.  added the riptides, kept the stock bushings, but put a bones top washer.  dreamy my dude
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 16, 2020, 02:33:19 PM
hell yeah Xen haha love the truck madness.  i swapped the gold baseplate on my Ti's for a silver forged plate from a pair V-lights also.  added the riptides, kept the stock bushings, but put a bones top washer.  dreamy my dude

Not a fan of the gold theme they have going for the Ti trucks...seems weird to me to not offer regular raw/silver...who are they marketing to with that?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 16, 2020, 02:38:19 PM
Useful info! May I ask what you prefer about the ace bushing combo besides the fact that its softer. Did you have any gripes with stock bushings asides from the fact that it was too hard? And just wondering, how loose do you skate?

The wheel/hardware and kingpin nuts look pretty cool, and honestly might cop if they were a little bit cheaper. I can't imagine the weight difference they make being more than the difference between solid trucks and hollows... maybe I'm wrong. Also wonder how the titanium kingpin would fare for smith grinds, if it would catch easier, or maybe be better...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 16, 2020, 02:47:51 PM
Useful info! May I ask what you prefer about the ace bushing combo besides the fact that its softer. Did you have any gripes with stock bushings asides from the fact that it was too hard? And just wondering, how loose do you skate?

The wheel/hardware and kingpin nuts look pretty cool, and honestly might cop if they were a little bit cheaper. I can't imagine the weight difference they make being more than the difference between solid trucks and hollows... maybe I'm wrong. Also wonder how the titanium kingpin would fare for smith grinds, if it would catch easier, or maybe be better...

I ride loose so softer is always better for me. I'm lazy so if I don't have to break in bushings, I won't and I love the way the ACE bushings feel (they're great in Indys).

Didn't like the stock purples I had on my hollow 5.6s, fell squashy, no rebound; the white ones that came on the Ti, feel the same (still have a purple combo from my kids trucks, set them up on bones as they are featherweight in size).

The ACE urethane is clearly nicer, dual duro is just icing really (and something I've run before using the ACEs. You can clearly see and feel the quality difference between the stock Ventures and the ACEs just by holding them.

I remember a few posts back someone mentioned using the ACE lows (could be in the context of venture lows). But the ACE bottom is the same size as Indy/Venture stock bottoms and the ACE low top is the same as all the other top bushings out there (ace reg top being super tall).

Anyway: NOTE: using a top machine washer as I have two sets but only one set of bigger bottom washers (no, they're not yours dude ;))


ACE LOW bottom left, machine washer | STOCK Venture right
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_TSnhIQWL1T2QBZWKvc3yNTnq77fBx1NPSkK8QMdcwD3ZFwg-RUp16bb5EyjPQs-PzlcSNIjm-NPlbEEmNxvaPUAp0whSPKG4bVNZ61xLeCNF6_L4D_oNHtxQBq5Jps_sur6VRsvBrM)

ACE Low Left stock venture washer  | STOCK Venture right
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/sic469ZK-oKV4OL92CBKkbq3LQ4j3-R6ISFyCeP57Vt7PQ8HXcSnOsIBrCPSsbEA1QwYSO8-_XkecyMYvfwqvWgmROU9gc41f7-DcizPNm-E5CC2172K9-o36JwLSdAy2mcqBpIGc-o)

It's a lot of useless truck nerdery!



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 16, 2020, 03:10:02 PM
pretty convincing, I'm closer and closer to pulling the trigger... which flat washers did you get exactly from muir? Would you mind linking me? And how durable are the ace bushings in ventures? After a while my bushings sometimes split or start to peel, have you noticed any durability issues?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 16, 2020, 03:31:19 PM
pretty convincing, I'm closer and closer to pulling the trigger... which flat washers did you get exactly from muir? Would you mind linking me? And how durable are the ace bushings in ventures? After a while my bushings sometimes split or start to peel, have you noticed any durability issues?

https://www.muirskate.com/

https://www.muirskate.com/longboard/products/54091/array-machined-barrel-sleeved-washer-cone-sleeved-washer-combo-pack-four-pack

I've run these bushings for about 2 two wks in ventures (not this set but a different pair and was really into slappies); the set was run in indys in a (transition) park setting for about a month. They hold up great.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 16, 2020, 03:46:55 PM
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pretty convincing, I'm closer and closer to pulling the trigger... which flat washers did you get exactly from muir? Would you mind linking me? And how durable are the ace bushings in ventures? After a while my bushings sometimes split or start to peel, have you noticed any durability issues?
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https://www.muirskate.com/

https://www.muirskate.com/longboard/products/54091/array-machined-barrel-sleeved-washer-cone-sleeved-washer-combo-pack-four-pack

I've run these bushings for about 2 two wks in ventures (not this set but a different pair and was really into slappies); the set was run in indys in a (transition) park setting for about a month. They hold up great.

Thanks! Just got these and the ace normal/low bushings. No real complaints about my ventures as is tbh but anything to nerd out  8)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 16, 2020, 04:10:37 PM
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pretty convincing, I'm closer and closer to pulling the trigger... which flat washers did you get exactly from muir? Would you mind linking me? And how durable are the ace bushings in ventures? After a while my bushings sometimes split or start to peel, have you noticed any durability issues?
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https://www.muirskate.com/

https://www.muirskate.com/longboard/products/54091/array-machined-barrel-sleeved-washer-cone-sleeved-washer-combo-pack-four-pack

I've run these bushings for about 2 two wks in ventures (not this set but a different pair and was really into slappies); the set was run in indys in a (transition) park setting for about a month. They hold up great.
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Thanks! Just got these and the ace normal/low bushings. No real complaints about my ventures as is tbh but anything to nerd out  8)

Sweet, enjoy!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 16, 2020, 06:29:06 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/t7G2Yf8UJseAGWaFkSvbbfEGMYzkkE5YWx5N0pvSKVzDkUCf7x_eCPIidjc6fgZhnO02AHkJB-bmGkUCJTwB_INL5IE4KRkCqZCeq_niBfZ6yOi2h-e4NISpXTACZNzmuezHtA1SY7k)

As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.
How is having the extended wheelbase of the forged working with that 6.5 tail. I want to try some ti ventures and I’m currently on the cast hi’s but worry about it feeling too short
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 16, 2020, 06:43:17 PM
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As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.
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How is having the extended wheelbase of the forged working with that 6.5 tail. I want to try some ti ventures and I’m currently on the cast hi’s but worry about it feeling too short

Are you able to get a tape measure out to check how much the Venture Titanium extend the WB out?
Cast plates - 3.4-3.5"
Forged - 3.25"

Could you help check those measurements?

Also, how could Krux bushing work with Ventures? Or we sticking to stock bushing?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 16, 2020, 06:46:33 PM
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As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.
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How is having the extended wheelbase of the forged working with that 6.5 tail. I want to try some ti ventures and I’m currently on the cast hi’s but worry about it feeling too short
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Are you able to get a tape measure out to check how much the Venture Titanium extend the WB out?
Cast plates - 3.4-3.5"
Forged - 3.25"

Could you help check those measurements?

Also, how could Krux bushing work with Ventures? Or we sticking to stock bushing?
Wait.. the forged extend it less?

Don’t make me spend more money
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on April 16, 2020, 07:01:10 PM
Yeah think that’s flipped. My cast 6.1 are 3.25” or so
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 16, 2020, 07:04:51 PM
Yeah think that’s flipped. My cast 6.1 are 3.25” or so

Yeah me too. But ya know... 2020 has been a wild year
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 16, 2020, 07:20:31 PM
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As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.
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How is having the extended wheelbase of the forged working with that 6.5 tail. I want to try some ti ventures and I’m currently on the cast hi’s but worry about it feeling too short
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Are you able to get a tape measure out to check how much the Venture Titanium extend the WB out?
Cast plates - 3.4-3.5" 3.25"
Forged - 3.25" 3.4-3.5"

Could you help check those measurements?

Also, how could Krux bushing work with Ventures? Or we sticking to stock bushing?
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Wait.. the forged extend it less?

Don’t make me spend more money

Corrected it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 16, 2020, 07:51:23 PM
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As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.
[close]
How is having the extended wheelbase of the forged working with that 6.5 tail. I want to try some ti ventures and I’m currently on the cast hi’s but worry about it feeling too short
[close]

Are you able to get a tape measure out to check how much the Venture Titanium extend the WB out?
Cast plates - 3.4-3.5" 3.25"
Forged - 3.25" 3.4-3.5"

Could you help check those measurements?

Also, how could Krux bushing work with Ventures? Or we sticking to stock bushing?
[close]
Wait.. the forged extend it less?

Don’t make me spend more money
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Corrected it.

About 3.5/3.6

I'd imagine Krux work great, same size and whatnot.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: pointandclick on April 16, 2020, 08:03:19 PM
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As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.
[close]
How is having the extended wheelbase of the forged working with that 6.5 tail. I want to try some ti ventures and I’m currently on the cast hi’s but worry about it feeling too short
[close]

Are you able to get a tape measure out to check how much the Venture Titanium extend the WB out?
Cast plates - 3.4-3.5" 3.25"
Forged - 3.25" 3.4-3.5"

Could you help check those measurements?

Also, how could Krux bushing work with Ventures? Or we sticking to stock bushing?
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Wait.. the forged extend it less?

Don’t make me spend more money
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Corrected it.
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About 3.5/3.6

I'd imagine Krux work great, same size and whatnot.
they work well but you have to shave the bottom down a bit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on April 20, 2020, 08:11:39 AM
Noticed today that I been riding my Ventures wrong since I changed to the Primitive 8.125 and 5.6 v lights. I thought because the longer wheelbase I had to stand closer with my feet. But today they felt like shit got much better. With 14 wheelbase Ventures are perfect to stand comfortable with my feet, they are spread out exactly how I want it. I'm so happy right now that I tried Ventures again. I just need to get a little bit more used to them before advancing more :) Also coming from winter break. But the basic stuff back just needs to clean it up a bit.

Edit: People say Ventures don't grind as good. On my way home I stopped by a stair made of plates supers crunchy never skated never waxed. I was just gonna check if I could come up 50 50 easy and crux without problems and I even slid. Only trucks waxed, felt like they grinded better than Thunder for sure. Not sure about Indyus doe :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on April 22, 2020, 03:19:26 AM
Got two questions for Venture riders...
Love my 5.2 Ti's so far (3 weeks now) but:
1. They are noisier than my Indys, put some speed cream in the bushings which made it better, but didn't stop.
2. Right now they tend to stay a little bit dipped, when I get off the board, so the board doesnt roll straight but into one direction (if you know what I mean). Never had that with Indys.
Any tips or are both of these issues just disappearing with time, when the bushing gonna break in some more?
Thanks for any input in advance...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oneOone on April 22, 2020, 05:42:29 AM

  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts


Did you weight and compare them to stock nuts? Thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: baustin on April 22, 2020, 06:20:46 AM
Got two questions for Venture riders...
Love my 5.2 Ti's so far (3 weeks now) but:
1. They are noisier than my Indys, put some speed cream in the bushings which made it better, but didn't stop.
2. Right now they tend to stay a little bit dipped, when I get off the board, so the board doesnt roll straight but into one direction (if you know what I mean). Never had that with Indys.
Any tips or are both of these issues just disappearing with time, when the bushing gonna break in some more?
Thanks for any input in advance...

Try some wax shavings in the pivot cups, they're usually the source of noise. Once you do that and they are broken in a bit more they'll return to center better.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 22, 2020, 06:57:27 AM
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Got two questions for Venture riders...
Love my 5.2 Ti's so far (3 weeks now) but:
1. They are noisier than my Indys, put some speed cream in the bushings which made it better, but didn't stop.
2. Right now they tend to stay a little bit dipped, when I get off the board, so the board doesnt roll straight but into one direction (if you know what I mean). Never had that with Indys.
Any tips or are both of these issues just disappearing with time, when the bushing gonna break in some more?
Thanks for any input in advance...
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Try some wax shavings in the pivot cups, they're usually the source of noise. Once you do that and they are broken in a bit more they'll return to center better.

I second that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on April 22, 2020, 08:15:45 AM
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Got two questions for Venture riders...
Love my 5.2 Ti's so far (3 weeks now) but:
1. They are noisier than my Indys, put some speed cream in the bushings which made it better, but didn't stop.
2. Right now they tend to stay a little bit dipped, when I get off the board, so the board doesnt roll straight but into one direction (if you know what I mean). Never had that with Indys.
Any tips or are both of these issues just disappearing with time, when the bushing gonna break in some more?
Thanks for any input in advance...
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Try some wax shavings in the pivot cups, they're usually the source of noise. Once you do that and they are broken in a bit more they'll return to center better.

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on April 23, 2020, 04:22:21 AM
Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on April 23, 2020, 04:41:11 AM
Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.
how many fingers of flat? And diff wb? Feel like there are more factors there too
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 23, 2020, 04:54:55 AM
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Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.
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how many fingers of flat? And diff wb? Feel like there are more factors there too
No flat between the bolts and nose or tail is a deal breaker with Ventures for sure.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on April 23, 2020, 05:09:48 AM
Shit. One of the reasons I moved from Indy to venture is I felt like I was ghost popping way too much on indys.

^So based on that logic, if I rode Indys with no fingers of flat, would I experience less ghost pop on Indys?


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on April 23, 2020, 05:17:16 AM
Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.

Just made the switch from Indys three weeks ago, boards I rode so far with the 5.2hi's had both a 14WB: I had to pop a little (!) different. Just pointed my back foot an idea more into the direction of my tail (instead of having it "parallel" to the back truck). Got way less ghost pop than with Indys now, didnt have that much before anyway. But got a way better pop now, much more consistent, way more confidence into jumping on/over bigger stuff, won't go back.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 23, 2020, 05:41:02 AM
Shit. One of the reasons I moved from Indy to venture is I felt like I was ghost popping way too much on indys.

^So based on that logic, if I rode Indys with no fingers of flat, would I experience less ghost pop on Indys?
In my experience my best bet is Ventures with a board that has the flat and a shorter wb. Indys with a board that has little or no flat with a longer wb.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 23, 2020, 05:46:59 AM
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Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.
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Just made the switch from Indys three weeks ago, boards I rode so far with the 5.2hi's had both a 14WB: I had to pop a little (!) different. Just pointed my back foot an idea more into the direction of my tail (instead of having it "parallel" to the back truck). Got way less ghost pop than with Indys now, didnt have that much before anyway. But got a way better pop now, much more consistent, way more confidence into jumping on/over bigger stuff, won't go back.
That is 100% true for me as well..great advice
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on April 23, 2020, 06:17:43 AM
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Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.
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Just made the switch from Indys three weeks ago, boards I rode so far with the 5.2hi's had both a 14WB: I had to pop a little (!) different. Just pointed my back foot an idea more into the direction of my tail (instead of having it "parallel" to the back truck). Got way less ghost pop than with Indys now, didnt have that much before anyway. But got a way better pop now, much more consistent, way more confidence into jumping on/over bigger stuff, won't go back.
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That is 100% true for me as well..great advice

Yeah props to both of you for the advice!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on April 23, 2020, 06:25:54 AM
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Shit. One of the reasons I moved from Indy to venture is I felt like I was ghost popping way too much on indys.

^So based on that logic, if I rode Indys with no fingers of flat, would I experience less ghost pop on Indys?
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In my experience my best bet is Ventures with a board that has the flat and a shorter wb. Indys with a board that has little or no flat with a longer wb.
What boards have you found to have that combo? For ventures I mean. Can’t really go into my local atm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 23, 2020, 06:54:26 AM
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Shit. One of the reasons I moved from Indy to venture is I felt like I was ghost popping way too much on indys.

^So based on that logic, if I rode Indys with no fingers of flat, would I experience less ghost pop on Indys?
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In my experience my best bet is Ventures with a board that has the flat and a shorter wb. Indys with a board that has little or no flat with a longer wb.
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What boards have you found to have that combo? For ventures I mean. Can’t really go into my local atm

I'm riding a theories brand right now 8.25 with a WB around 14.25

Generator. Its fucking nice. I usually skate rough ass shit so I can grind up a board fast. Be furring up corners in hrs sometimes.

Hopps has a dope series rn Polaroid

Good fingers of flat reasonable wb


B&C has an 8.25 with a 14" WB been told on here. Likely is got some ugly shit on it but whatever. I bet that's a dream on the manny pad.

I doubt ill ever see one.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: EchoShadow on April 23, 2020, 07:17:42 AM
5.8 titaniums delivered this morning. Can’t wait for it to stop raining so I can try them out. First pair of
Ventures since 2000ish, rode them most of the 90s and Indys since. Most recently 149 and 144 titanium’s.

Here are my last pair. Found this old 7.5” in the basement.
(https://i.imgur.com/lZPQ39g.jpg)

Lack of supply locally left my only option the PRods. Anybody know how to get that logo off?
(https://i.imgur.com/cbQnYDk.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on April 23, 2020, 07:20:03 AM
My magenta 8” 14”WB  a little shorter than 31.5 on venture 5.2 lights + 52mm F4tablet 99du is an incredible set up

Really digging newer ventures so far
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 23, 2020, 07:24:31 AM
5.8 titaniums delivered this morning. Can’t wait for it to stop raining so I can try them out. First pair of
Ventures since 2000ish, rode them most of the 90s and Indys since. Most recently 149 and 144 titanium’s.

Here are my last pair. Found this old 7.5” in the basement.
(https://i.imgur.com/lZPQ39g.jpg)

Lack of supply locally left my only option the PRods. Anybody know how to get that logo off?
(https://i.imgur.com/cbQnYDk.jpg)



Ooof. That aesthetics board damn
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 23, 2020, 07:34:05 AM
My magenta 8” 14”WB  a little shorter than 31.5 on venture 5.2 lights + 52mm F4tablet 99du is an incredible set up

Really digging newer ventures so far

I was looking for a magenta board awhile back. They post like Noooo measurements.
I need width for truck pairing, but length and wb have a far greater effect on how my day is gonna go
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on April 23, 2020, 08:03:31 AM
5.8 titaniums delivered this morning. Can’t wait for it to stop raining so I can try them out. First pair of
Ventures since 2000ish, rode them most of the 90s and Indys since. Most recently 149 and 144 titanium’s.

Here are my last pair. Found this old 7.5” in the basement.
(https://i.imgur.com/lZPQ39g.jpg)

Lack of supply locally left my only option the PRods. Anybody know how to get that logo off?
(https://i.imgur.com/cbQnYDk.jpg)

I took the graphics off a set of Worrest ventures with acetone nail polish remover and a razor blade.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on April 23, 2020, 08:06:40 AM
5.8 titaniums delivered this morning. Can’t wait for it to stop raining so I can try them out. First pair of
Ventures since 2000ish, rode them most of the 90s and Indys since. Most recently 149 and 144 titanium’s.

Here are my last pair. Found this old 7.5” in the basement.
(https://i.imgur.com/lZPQ39g.jpg)

Lack of supply locally left my only option the PRods. Anybody know how to get that logo off?
(https://i.imgur.com/cbQnYDk.jpg)
I can’t stand graphics on trucks, I just prefer a raw truck. I had the worrest ventures and tried to ride them with the graphic on there but just didn’t like the way they looked. Worrest fucking rips and it’s nothing against him, I just didn’t want any graphics on there, so I used some griptape scraps and scraped the graphics off; it worked pretty well. Might take some time and some calloused fingers tho.

Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.
Like someone was saying earlier, I had way more cases of ghost popping with indys than on ventures. I ride a pretty flat board with a good amount of finger room of flat on the tail and nose with a 14.25 wheelbase and with indys the tail just felt too light and flimsy on that shape, it almost felt like I was skating on a board with an already cracked tail sometimes, which resulted in a lot of ghost pop on tricks; mainly kickflips. With ventures though the tail feels heavier and more stable and more controllable, which led to a lot less ghost pop. With a board with no finger room of flat and a long wheelbase I can see how the tail might feel a bit too solid and heavy tho to where it would be detrimental. My only advice there would be either switch to Indy or ace, switch out your board to a board with more finger room of flat and a shorter wheelbase, or just pop harder on tricks and get used to it; if you skate something long enough you’ll eventually get used to it no matter what; that adjustment period is a pain tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on April 23, 2020, 08:08:03 AM
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My magenta 8” 14”WB  a little shorter than 31.5 on venture 5.2 lights + 52mm F4tablet 99du is an incredible set up

Really digging newer ventures so far
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I was looking for a magenta board awhile back. They post like Noooo measurements.
I need width for truck pairing, but length and wb have a far greater effect on how my day is gonna go

Check out theories website . I’ve measured a bunch of their boards (bbs) and it seems mostly 8.25-8.375 is 14.25” WB , 8” is 14”, and 8.4-8.5 is 14.25”-14.5”
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on April 23, 2020, 08:25:35 AM
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5.8 titaniums delivered this morning. Can’t wait for it to stop raining so I can try them out. First pair of
Ventures since 2000ish, rode them most of the 90s and Indys since. Most recently 149 and 144 titanium’s.

Here are my last pair. Found this old 7.5” in the basement.
(https://i.imgur.com/lZPQ39g.jpg)

Lack of supply locally left my only option the PRods. Anybody know how to get that logo off?
(https://i.imgur.com/cbQnYDk.jpg)
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I can’t stand graphics on trucks, I just prefer a raw truck. I had the worrest ventures and tried to ride them with the graphic on there but just didn’t like the way they looked. Worrest fucking rips and it’s nothing against him, I just didn’t want any graphics on there, so I used some griptape scraps and scraped the graphics off; it worked pretty well. Might take some time and some calloused fingers tho.

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Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.
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Like someone was saying earlier, I had way more cases of ghost popping with indys than on ventures. I ride a pretty flat board with a good amount of finger room of flat on the tail and nose with a 14.25 wheelbase and with indys the tail just felt too light and flimsy on that shape, it almost felt like I was skating on a board with an already cracked tail sometimes, which resulted in a lot of ghost pop on tricks; mainly kickflips. With ventures though the tail feels heavier and more stable and more controllable, which led to a lot less ghost pop. With a board with no finger room of flat and a long wheelbase I can see how the tail might feel a bit too solid and heavy tho to where it would be detrimental. My only advice there would be either switch to Indy or ace, switch out your board to a board with more finger room of flat and a shorter wheelbase, or just pop harder on tricks and get used to it; if you skate something long enough you’ll eventually get used to it no matter what; that adjustment period is a pain tho.

Just use Citristrip, itll remove those logos in like an hour and wont ruin ur trucks at all
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 23, 2020, 08:54:58 AM
5.8 titaniums delivered this morning. Can’t wait for it to stop raining so I can try them out. First pair of
Ventures since 2000ish, rode them most of the 90s and Indys since. Most recently 149 and 144 titanium’s.

Lack of supply locally left my only option the PRods. Anybody know how to get that logo off?
(https://i.imgur.com/cbQnYDk.jpg)

Lack of supply here so I bought the same pair online; truth be told, the baseplate is more offensive than the logo :P Seriously as far as truck graphics go (and I wanted to remove these as well) the art on these is really subdued and hardly prominent. I just left them as is.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: EchoShadow on April 23, 2020, 09:03:00 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions. Just didn’t want to try something on my own that would mess up the finish. Seems like any of those methods should work. Appreciated.  8)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 23, 2020, 09:12:19 AM
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Shit. One of the reasons I moved from Indy to venture is I felt like I was ghost popping way too much on indys.

^So based on that logic, if I rode Indys with no fingers of flat, would I experience less ghost pop on Indys?
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In my experience my best bet is Ventures with a board that has the flat and a shorter wb. Indys with a board that has little or no flat with a longer wb.
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What boards have you found to have that combo? For ventures I mean. Can’t really go into my local atm
I recently had a Traffic 8.25 with a 14.25 wb and some flat before the kicks with Ventures and the pop of my flip tricks felt like I was young again.. Now I have a Zero 8.5 with a 14.5 wb, no flat area and steep kicks and Ventures were horrible on it as expected. I put indys on and its perfect.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 23, 2020, 10:02:57 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions. Just didn’t want to try something on my own that would mess up the finish. Seems like any of those methods should work. Appreciated.  8)

After reading/replying I went back at them with regular steel wool. Took that shit right off under 20 seconds no major finish damage (they're going to get wrecked anyway).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 23, 2020, 10:19:40 AM
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Shit. One of the reasons I moved from Indy to venture is I felt like I was ghost popping way too much on indys.

^So based on that logic, if I rode Indys with no fingers of flat, would I experience less ghost pop on Indys?
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In my experience my best bet is Ventures with a board that has the flat and a shorter wb. Indys with a board that has little or no flat with a longer wb.
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What boards have you found to have that combo? For ventures I mean. Can’t really go into my local atm
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I recently had a Traffic 8.25 with a 14.25 wb and some flat before the kicks with Ventures and the pop of my flip tricks felt like I was young again.. Now I have a Zero 8.5 with a 14.5 wb, no flat area and steep kicks and Ventures were horrible on it as expected. I put indys on and its perfect.

I think the 14.5" WB paired with Ventures is the real problem vs. Steep kicks/no flat and Venture but that's jsut my experience on long wheelbases and flip tricks, they just take so much effort and feel like they're in slow motion.

That said, I do prefer more flat with Ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 23, 2020, 10:46:00 AM
would i like forged ventures with a 14.25 WB? does that make the axle to axle wb too long and rotational tricks too slow? looking to retry ventures in a lighter version since the 6.1s i ran were too heavy for my liking to review them properly. just dont want to spend for titaniums and hate them immediately
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 23, 2020, 10:52:30 AM
would i like forged ventures with a 14.25 WB? does that make the axle to axle wb too long and rotational tricks too slow? looking to retry ventures in a lighter version since the 6.1s i ran were too heavy for my liking to review them properly. just dont want to spend for titaniums and hate them immediately

people seem to dislike forged ventures on wheelbases of that length but its fine for me. I can do up to 14.38 pretty comfortably, then again I came from longer wheelbases on other trucks originally and for me I have no issue with scooping for rotational tricks and often over rotate if the board is too short
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 23, 2020, 10:56:38 AM
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would i like forged ventures with a 14.25 WB? does that make the axle to axle wb too long and rotational tricks too slow? looking to retry ventures in a lighter version since the 6.1s i ran were too heavy for my liking to review them properly. just dont want to spend for titaniums and hate them immediately
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people seem to dislike forged ventures on wheelbases of that length but its fine for me. I can do up to 14.38 pretty comfortably, then again I came from longer wheelbases on other trucks originally and for me I have no issue with scooping for rotational tricks and often over rotate if the board is too short
are ventures good with short tails? thats the other thing i forgot to include
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 23, 2020, 10:58:59 AM
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would i like forged ventures with a 14.25 WB? does that make the axle to axle wb too long and rotational tricks too slow? looking to retry ventures in a lighter version since the 6.1s i ran were too heavy for my liking to review them properly. just dont want to spend for titaniums and hate them immediately
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people seem to dislike forged ventures on wheelbases of that length but its fine for me. I can do up to 14.38 pretty comfortably, then again I came from longer wheelbases on other trucks originally and for me I have no issue with scooping for rotational tricks and often over rotate if the board is too short
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are ventures good with short tails? thats the other thing i forgot to include
Shortest tail I’ve used with ventures is 6.5 and it was fine
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on April 23, 2020, 11:00:36 AM
Please tell me that Ventures suck at the begining and then they are good...so far I hate mine
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 23, 2020, 11:05:01 AM
Please tell me that Ventures suck at the begining and then they are good...so far I hate mine


All about the wb for me.
And removing the top washer.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 23, 2020, 11:12:04 AM
would i like forged ventures with a 14.25 WB? does that make the axle to axle wb too long and rotational tricks too slow? looking to retry ventures in a lighter version since the 6.1s i ran were too heavy for my liking to review them properly. just dont want to spend for titaniums and hate them immediately

The shorter the better. I've ridden on 14.25 and 14.125 and 14" I wouldn't go any longer than the 14.25. I find the sweet spot for me is the 14.125" WB - but we're talking such a tiny amount between the three listed.

My Venturestein truck setup is really working for me now, very comfortable, low, stable and swervey
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 23, 2020, 01:35:29 PM
For me it’s 14.25 wheelbase max on venture. They really shine on 14-14.25 with about 2 fingers of flat cast or forged plates. Too many fingers of flat between kicks? Use a forged baseplate. Not enough fingers of flat or the perfect amount? Cast baseplate. I had to do some mixing and matching to find my perfect combo, but I have the prod 5.6 titanium hanger like y’all above but I run it with a cast baseplate from a worrest set. I’m running it on 14.25 wheelbase quasi with mellow kicks 2 fingers of flat. Love everything about this setup.

Still looking for the perfect 8.1 board for my 5.2 hi’s though, gotta be less than 31.8 length with a 14-14.125 wheelbase and nice square kicks/a good 2 fingers of flat. FA makes a good 8.1 but the kicks can be too extreme sometimes. And I actually don’t like the quasi 8.1 too much haha
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 23, 2020, 04:16:29 PM
For me it’s 14.25 wheelbase max on venture. They really shine on 14-14.25 with about 2 fingers of flat cast or forged plates. Too many fingers of flat between kicks? Use a forged baseplate. Not enough fingers of flat or the perfect amount? Cast baseplate. I had to do some mixing and matching to find my perfect combo, but I have the prod 5.6 titanium hanger like y’all above but I run it with a cast baseplate from a worrest set. I’m running it on 14.25 wheelbase quasi with mellow kicks 2 fingers of flat. Love everything about this setup.

Still looking for the perfect 8.1 board for my 5.2 hi’s though, gotta be less than 31.8 length with a 14-14.125 wheelbase and nice square kicks/a good 2 fingers of flat. FA makes a good 8.1 but the kicks can be too extreme sometimes. And I actually don’t like the quasi 8.1 too much haha

I run my Ventures on Primitive decks (currently 8.125x31.75x14.1WB) as it has mellow kicks and 2 fingers of flat, perfect fit and feel). However, it is not square/blunt kicks tho, (Quasi proto or FA/WKND style; 8.125" quasi is round no? That's what they told me in email, plus it's 14.25") but it's got the dims I want and I can't find what you are looking for either, I've been trying.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 23, 2020, 07:35:55 PM
For me it’s 14.25 wheelbase max on venture. They really shine on 14-14.25 with about 2 fingers of flat cast or forged plates. Too many fingers of flat between kicks? Use a forged baseplate. Not enough fingers of flat or the perfect amount? Cast baseplate. I had to do some mixing and matching to find my perfect combo, but I have the prod 5.6 titanium hanger like y’all above but I run it with a cast baseplate from a worrest set. I’m running it on 14.25 wheelbase quasi with mellow kicks 2 fingers of flat. Love everything about this setup.

Still looking for the perfect 8.1 board for my 5.2 hi’s though, gotta be less than 31.8 length with a 14-14.125 wheelbase and nice square kicks/a good 2 fingers of flat. FA makes a good 8.1 but the kicks can be too extreme sometimes. And I actually don’t like the quasi 8.1 too much haha

Truth! 14 - 14.25 is where I draw the line with Ventures. Truck weight to a lesser degree, recently tried 5.8 standards with a Real 8.18 x 31.8 x 14.38 and it was heavy as fuck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on April 24, 2020, 10:28:44 AM
So my Venture experience hasn't been good so far.
I was already aware of the design fail regarding front bolts but this is ridiculous:
(https://i.imgur.com/0NeYJgYl.jpg)
Also I remember reading that the top washer hits the hanger but never expected that it would be this bad after literally 5 minutes skating:
(https://i.imgur.com/luU6I0zl.jpg)
Thankfully I was able to remove that damn red color on the baseplate but now pivot cups look weird:
(https://i.imgur.com/eEwYQsUl.jpg)
At least they look way better now but I'm not looking forward to try Venture again for sure. Maybe they need a little more time to feel good? Let's see.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 24, 2020, 10:42:28 AM
So my Venture experience hasn't been good so far.
I was already aware of the design fail regarding front bolts but this is ridiculous:
(https://i.imgur.com/0NeYJgYl.jpg)
Also I remember reading that the top washer hits the hanger but never expected that it would be this bad after literally 5 minutes skating:
(https://i.imgur.com/luU6I0zl.jpg)
Thankfully I was able to remove that damn red color on the baseplate but now pivot cups look weird:
(https://i.imgur.com/eEwYQsUl.jpg)
At least they look way better now but I'm not looking to try Venture again for sure. Maybe they need a little more time to broke in? Let's see.

Hahaha I’m laughing with you not at you trust me I have the same pair of trucks. I always remove the hanger before mounting baseplates with ventures it’s so much easier for me. That pivot cup looks trash though I would maybe try to swap em out with a spare if you have one, my pivot cup never stuck out that much but I’ve had some shitty ones on brand new ventures don’t get me wrong. Maybe do a little soap under the pivot cup and mash it down into place if possible? As far as the top washer binding the hanger that’s just the stability factor and what’s limiting the max turn on the trucks they are designed that way for stability I assume. Most people switch to a flat top washer or remove it completely. I leave mine stock and have no issues once bushings and pivots are completely broken in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on April 24, 2020, 10:45:49 AM
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So my Venture experience hasn't been good so far.
I was already aware of the design fail regarding front bolts but this is ridiculous:
(https://i.imgur.com/0NeYJgYl.jpg)
Also I remember reading that the top washer hits the hanger but never expected that it would be this bad after literally 5 minutes skating:
(https://i.imgur.com/luU6I0zl.jpg)
Thankfully I was able to remove that damn red color on the baseplate but now pivot cups look weird:
(https://i.imgur.com/eEwYQsUl.jpg)
At least they look way better now but I'm not looking to try Venture again for sure. Maybe they need a little more time to broke in? Let's see.

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Hahaha I’m laughing with you not at you trust me I have the same pair of trucks. I always remove the hanger before mounting baseplates with ventures it’s so much easier for me. That pivot cup looks trash though I would maybe try to swap em out with a spare if you have one, my pivot cup never stuck out that much but I’ve had some shitty ones on brand new ventures don’t get me wrong. Maybe do a little soap under the pivot cup and mash it down into place if possible? As far as the top washer binding the hanger that’s just the stability factor and what’s limiting the max turn on the trucks they are designed that way for stability I assume. Most people switch to a flat top washer or remove it completely. I leave mine stock and have no issues once bushings and pivots are completely broken in.
I got some spare pivot cups but I want to see if the stock ones work fine, I don't mind the silly look that much.
Regarding the top washer if I can't get used to Venture I'll leave them without the washer and throw the trucks into a second setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TokyoBoyzClub on April 24, 2020, 10:47:50 AM
So my Venture experience hasn't been good so far.
I was already aware of the design fail regarding front bolts but this is ridiculous:
(https://i.imgur.com/0NeYJgYl.jpg)
Also I remember reading that the top washer hits the hanger but never expected that it would be this bad after literally 5 minutes skating:
(https://i.imgur.com/luU6I0zl.jpg)
Thankfully I was able to remove that damn red color on the baseplate but now pivot cups look weird:
(https://i.imgur.com/eEwYQsUl.jpg)
At least they look way better now but I'm not looking forward to try Venture again for sure. Maybe they need a little more time to feel good? Let's see.
What'd you use to remove the red? I got some new P-Rod Titanium's with gold base plates and I hate it. Havne't put them on yet since I"m stuck inside, but if there's something easy, I can do it while stuck inside. Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on April 24, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
after a while that washer will groove into the trucks and free up the turn. warm weather, slappys and bombing hills should free them up a bit. they end up turning on par with everything else after a while, definitely super stiff at first though, I shaved wax into the pivot cups and that helped make them feel more comfortable when they got looser.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on April 24, 2020, 11:19:43 AM
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So my Venture experience hasn't been good so far.
I was already aware of the design fail regarding front bolts but this is ridiculous:
(https://i.imgur.com/0NeYJgYl.jpg)
Also I remember reading that the top washer hits the hanger but never expected that it would be this bad after literally 5 minutes skating:
(https://i.imgur.com/luU6I0zl.jpg)
Thankfully I was able to remove that damn red color on the baseplate but now pivot cups look weird:
(https://i.imgur.com/eEwYQsUl.jpg)
At least they look way better now but I'm not looking forward to try Venture again for sure. Maybe they need a little more time to feel good? Let's see.
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What'd you use to remove the red? I got some new P-Rod Titanium's with gold base plates and I hate it. Havne't put them on yet since I"m stuck inside, but if there's something easy, I can do it while stuck inside. Thanks!
Paint remover but that thing is super toxic. Use with goggles and gloves.
I used a brush after leaving then like for 6 hours
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 24, 2020, 11:27:08 AM
after a while that washer will groove into the trucks and free up the turn. warm weather, slappys and bombing hills should free them up a bit. they end up turning on par with everything else after a while, definitely super stiff at first though, I shaved wax into the pivot cups and that helped make them feel more comfortable when they got looser.
Yessir I think I’m at that point with all my venture sets. Break in period can be brutal for some but I think the venture transition from always being an indy rider was super smooth for me. Got all mine nice and pinchy and carvy like my old indys felt. Some fat slappys, powerslides, pole jams, & hell just carving will free those babies up. Breaking in trucks is lame let’s all admit it. But once it’s good ooooohhhhh boi do I get excited.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 24, 2020, 11:35:51 AM
Mo
after a while that washer will groove into the trucks and free up the turn. warm weather, slappys and bombing hills should free them up a bit. they end up turning on par with everything else after a while, definitely super stiff at first though, I shaved wax into the pivot cups and that helped make them feel more comfortable when they got looser.


Yeah they break in. And turn very well.

People put shit on, pop an ollie/roll around for a day, and be like ‘nah’.
Ventures definitely take time to break in, or just use bones bushings. Way less break in, but the bones don’t last all that long for me.

 Ventures do have a different turn than Indy/ace tho, obviously.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: street noledge on April 24, 2020, 03:40:12 PM
sssss
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on April 24, 2020, 04:11:12 PM
Ok, rode featherlights in the 90's because my indy's were too heavy for my middleschool bod.

Switched to Indy's once I became a man, and then pretty recently tried Ace, so I am very used to the surfey turn, but it also gets a tad bit too wild at times.

Now want to join the Venture revival bandwagon, and will definitely be switching bushings on sight, but my question is do I get 5.6 Highs or Lows?

All that shit boggles my mind. Will be riding an 8.25 with 14.25 WB, but I'm sure I will be riding the ventures loose as fuck, and I ride 52-53MM wheels. Trying to avoid wheelbite, but still turn.

So high's or low's? I just want my flip tricks to return to my standards.
5.6 only comes in hi
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: street noledge on April 24, 2020, 04:24:01 PM
Ok, rode featherlights in the 90's because my indy's were too heavy for my middleschool bod.

Switched to Indy's once I became a man.

Now want to join the Venture revival bandwagon, and will definitely be switching bushings on sight, but my question is do I get 5.6 Highs or Lows?

All that shit boggles my mind. Will be riding an 8.25 with 14.25 WB, but I'm sure I will be riding the ventures loose as fuck, and I ride 52-53MM wheels. Trying to avoid wheelbite, but still turn.

So high's or low's? I just want my flip tricks to return to my standards.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 24, 2020, 06:16:46 PM
after a while that washer will groove into the trucks and free up the turn.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/WfyP9ebBuovu0/giphy.gif)

It's the single best improvement you can make to them once you set them up...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 24, 2020, 08:02:15 PM
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Ok, rode featherlights in the 90's because my indy's were too heavy for my middleschool bod.

Switched to Indy's once I became a man, and then pretty recently tried Ace, so I am very used to the surfey turn, but it also gets a tad bit too wild at times.

Now want to join the Venture revival bandwagon, and will definitely be switching bushings on sight, but my question is do I get 5.6 Highs or Lows?

All that shit boggles my mind. Will be riding an 8.25 with 14.25 WB, but I'm sure I will be riding the ventures loose as fuck, and I ride 52-53MM wheels. Trying to avoid wheelbite, but still turn.

So high's or low's? I just want my flip tricks to return to my standards.
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5.6 only comes in hi

I've heard a low is available. Or soon to be available
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Skart on April 25, 2020, 10:09:13 AM
Just use steel wool or a wet sanding block to remove truck colors/graphics
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 25, 2020, 12:43:44 PM
PRod Ti with the graphic removed via steel wool, you can still see some of the gold on the left side of the V 'crease' on the hanger.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ic4VQqngrobt7BLVhSdCW2mpD42fY0mm-t3y8zKf-Vt8qBsfc7wTCkYy8099uNAqhGozyM9HvuN_49FtAd1Cb1GByLog6hrE0uCk9SC57TY5gHsb_CK6qhDqzcXeSh_s_FV9Q1cBHVg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 26, 2020, 03:09:35 AM
Just set up some ace bushings (standard bottom, low top) with those muir machined washers with the metal inserts Xen had a few pages before. Haven't been able to skate yet but initial impression is good, the lean feels smooth and quiet and the bushings are noticeably better quality than stock. You definitely need the ace low top bushings as the normal ace ones are way too tall. But while the standard ace bottoms fit, the ace lows also seem to fit, and actually were exactly the same height as my stock bushings which have probably been compressed quite a bit from use. So not sure whether the low or standard ace bottom would be better, going with standard for now

My only concern is that the ace bushings seem to have an ever so slightly bigger diameter than the stocks and the diameter of the washers is a hair smaller than the diameter of the side of the bushing that touches the washer. This makes me a bit worried about the bushing bulging over the washer with extended use. I ride my trucks probably a solid medium, slightly loose so not sure how thats going to affect things either.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 26, 2020, 07:35:10 AM
Just set up some ace bushings (standard bottom, low top) with those muir machined washers with the metal inserts Xen had a few pages before. Haven't been able to skate yet but initial impression is good, the lean feels smooth and quiet and the bushings are noticeably better quality than stock. You definitely need the ace low top bushings as the normal ace ones are way too tall. But while the standard ace bottoms fit, the ace lows also seem to fit, and actually were exactly the same height as my stock bushings which have probably been compressed quite a bit from use. So not sure whether the low or standard ace bottom would be better, going with standard for now

My only concern is that the ace bushings seem to have an ever so slightly bigger diameter than the stocks and the diameter of the washers is a hair smaller than the diameter of the side of the bushing that touches the washer. This makes me a bit worried about the bushing bulging over the washer with extended use. I ride my trucks probably a solid medium, slightly loose so not sure how thats going to affect things either.
i run standard ace bottoms with the stock washer and they bulged through the center hole of the washer after a couple of months. i just flipped them upside down and they feel pretty new again. they fit snug in thunders which have a taller stock bottom bushing than venture, so the low ones might be optimal for you.

if they get a little deformed, flip and forget has worked for me. i dont want to replace these bushings till they crumble

be sure to post your thoughts on that washer. they look interesting but im not completely sold on $20 washers yet
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on April 26, 2020, 09:10:24 AM
Skates today, my trucks feel a lot nicer and everything felt good.
I'm happy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 26, 2020, 09:40:24 AM
Skates today, my trucks feel a lot nicer and everything felt good.
I'm happy.

Sick!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on April 26, 2020, 12:20:42 PM
Skates today, my trucks feel a lot nicer and everything felt good.
I'm happy.

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 26, 2020, 12:28:18 PM
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Just set up some ace bushings (standard bottom, low top) with those muir machined washers with the metal inserts Xen had a few pages before. Haven't been able to skate yet but initial impression is good, the lean feels smooth and quiet and the bushings are noticeably better quality than stock. You definitely need the ace low top bushings as the normal ace ones are way too tall. But while the standard ace bottoms fit, the ace lows also seem to fit, and actually were exactly the same height as my stock bushings which have probably been compressed quite a bit from use. So not sure whether the low or standard ace bottom would be better, going with standard for now

My only concern is that the ace bushings seem to have an ever so slightly bigger diameter than the stocks and the diameter of the washers is a hair smaller than the diameter of the side of the bushing that touches the washer. This makes me a bit worried about the bushing bulging over the washer with extended use. I ride my trucks probably a solid medium, slightly loose so not sure how thats going to affect things either.
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i run standard ace bottoms with the stock washer and they bulged through the center hole of the washer after a couple of months. i just flipped them upside down and they feel pretty new again. they fit snug in thunders which have a taller stock bottom bushing than venture, so the low ones might be optimal for you.

if they get a little deformed, flip and forget has worked for me. i dont want to replace these bushings till they crumble

be sure to post your thoughts on that washer. they look interesting but im not completely sold on $20 washers yet

Yeah the standard ace bottom is definitely a bit snug but standing on it feels good so I'll just run it until it gets fucked and then switch out to the lows if needed. Damn, I'm a bit worried about the bulging around the perimeter of the bushings now, flat bottom washers are even more susceptible to bushing bulging than cup washers but fingers crossed I guess... it definitely feels good thats for sure.

The washers are good, I ran them with stocks for a few sessions and they feel a bit better turning than stock washers and have a somewhat nice snap back... but they're just fucking washers and spending money on them could have easily made me imagine that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 26, 2020, 02:25:08 PM
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Just set up some ace bushings (standard bottom, low top) with those muir machined washers with the metal inserts Xen had a few pages before. Haven't been able to skate yet but initial impression is good, the lean feels smooth and quiet and the bushings are noticeably better quality than stock. You definitely need the ace low top bushings as the normal ace ones are way too tall. But while the standard ace bottoms fit, the ace lows also seem to fit, and actually were exactly the same height as my stock bushings which have probably been compressed quite a bit from use. So not sure whether the low or standard ace bottom would be better, going with standard for now

My only concern is that the ace bushings seem to have an ever so slightly bigger diameter than the stocks and the diameter of the washers is a hair smaller than the diameter of the side of the bushing that touches the washer. This makes me a bit worried about the bushing bulging over the washer with extended use. I ride my trucks probably a solid medium, slightly loose so not sure how thats going to affect things either.
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i run standard ace bottoms with the stock washer and they bulged through the center hole of the washer after a couple of months. i just flipped them upside down and they feel pretty new again. they fit snug in thunders which have a taller stock bottom bushing than venture, so the low ones might be optimal for you.

if they get a little deformed, flip and forget has worked for me. i dont want to replace these bushings till they crumble

be sure to post your thoughts on that washer. they look interesting but im not completely sold on $20 washers yet
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Yeah the standard ace bottom is definitely a bit snug but standing on it feels good so I'll just run it until it gets fucked and then switch out to the lows if needed. Damn, I'm a bit worried about the bulging around the perimeter of the bushings now, flat bottom washers are even more susceptible to bushing bulging than cup washers but fingers crossed I guess... it definitely feels good thats for sure.

The washers are good, I ran them with stocks for a few sessions and they feel a bit better turning than stock washers and have a somewhat nice snap back... but they're just fucking washers and spending money on them could have easily made me imagine that.
hope thats not the case with these riptides coming in but im crossing fingers here

it would be harder to test washers forsure but im interested in your review of you ever do one. up to you or Xen as far as i know
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 26, 2020, 02:29:27 PM
Yep check back with us after some time for those washers and bushings to see how they mesh! Never tried riptides either but always been intrigued
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 26, 2020, 03:44:02 PM
I usually skate riptide pivot cups if I feel like spending the money on them. They make your trucks a bit less squeaky usually and make the turn a tiny bit smoother as a result but again its only a pretty minor aesthetic difference and definitely won't make you skate better or anything.

One thing about riptide cups for Ventures and Thunders I've noticed is that the pivot cup is a bit taller than the stock one and often sits above the top of the pivot cup hole. a little bit, this can make the top 'lip' of the pivot cup sometimes start to rip and deform a bit. If possible, its best to try and trim it so that it sits completely flush in the pivot hole like the stock ones.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 26, 2020, 07:15:11 PM
Skates today, my trucks feel a lot nicer and everything felt good.
I'm happy.

Did you do anything different with your Ventures to improve the experience? I like 5.2 Los in V-Hollow, 5.8 standards are too heavy for my liking.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on April 26, 2020, 07:49:26 PM
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Skates today, my trucks feel a lot nicer and everything felt good.
I'm happy.
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Did you do anything different with your Ventures to improve the experience? I like 5.2 Los in V-Hollow, 5.8 standards are too heavy for my liking.
Actually yes, I used paint remover on the baseplate with out taking out the pivot cups. Now they look weird but feel better. Also I stood on my board on a carpet and I was leaning (is that the word?) with all my weight left/right for like 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on April 28, 2020, 07:19:55 AM
^^haha moon i do that at work when i get new trucks.  i have a stand up desk and ill just rock back and forth on the board to try and help the break in process.

anyone have a preference between v-lights and titaniums?  i've heard some people say the titaniums grind 'worse'
any truth to this?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 28, 2020, 07:34:14 AM
^^haha moon i do that at work when i get new trucks.  i have a stand up desk and ill just rock back and forth on the board to try and help the break in process.

anyone have a preference between v-lights and titaniums?  i've heard some people say the titaniums grind 'worse'
any truth to this?

There isn’t truth to titanium lights grinding worse*, the titanium is in the axle. Not the hanger. You won’t be grinding the titanium part for quite awhile.

* I’ve heard/seen enough people have this opinion that I THINK that maybe what’s happening is that a lighter truck might not grind as well for some people, or might not feel as ‘good’, grinding, as a heavier truck. I’ve never had titanium anything. Hollow light thunders felt a little ‘tinny’ or ‘chattery’ on cement grinds for me. A heavier cast truck felt more dull, and the more weight when grinding was nice. But this is one of those rain man without the talent things.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on April 28, 2020, 08:11:27 AM
^^nice, thank you for the insight dude
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 28, 2020, 11:58:22 AM
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^^haha moon i do that at work when i get new trucks.  i have a stand up desk and ill just rock back and forth on the board to try and help the break in process.

anyone have a preference between v-lights and titaniums?  i've heard some people say the titaniums grind 'worse'
any truth to this?
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There isn’t truth to titanium lights grinding worse*, the titanium is in the axle. Not the hanger. You won’t be grinding the titanium part for quite awhile.

* I’ve heard/seen enough people have this opinion that I THINK that maybe what’s happening is that a lighter truck might not grind as well for some people, or might not feel as ‘good’, grinding, as a heavier truck. I’ve never had titanium anything. Hollow light thunders felt a little ‘tinny’ or ‘chattery’ on cement grinds for me. A heavier cast truck felt more dull, and the more weight when grinding was nice. But this is one of those rain man without the talent things.

It's definitely the truck weight (+Body weight+Speed).

I go fast no matter what (it's fun) and being afflicted with truck madness I have full speed ground the same curbs/ledges (slappies or popped) with a ton of trucking combos and SOLID trucks feel better grinding, i.e., cast plates, solid pin, solid axle) - but that's personal preference.

Tensor ATGs? Grind like butter but feel 'weird' not as raw or guttural on and the grind sensation is lessened (even worse skating them on hollow metal coping, feels bad). Titanium axle trucks feel fine to me tho; hollow thunders like you mentioned feel waaaaay to tinny but you get used to it.

I've never OCD on thunder feel harder than Venture or Indy or whatever the fuck, I'm always going fast enough to not notice (I did have to slow down on the ATGs until I got used to it, then if felt like cheating).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: The.Tran.Man on April 28, 2020, 12:08:36 PM
Anyone ride Ventures on decks with steep kicks? Currently running 5.8 stock with the bones top washer on a 8.25 FA deck. I get a little bit of ghost pop on some nollie tricks, but overall they feel fine (maybe its requires more effort to get good pop, but I'm sure that is just a muscle memory issue). Just wanted to hear some thoughts about this bc generally I hear Ventures work best on decks with mellow kicks (my last 2 decks were primitive). Should I just throw my Ace 44's on the FA?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 28, 2020, 12:15:27 PM
Anyone ride Ventures on decks with steep kicks? Currently running 5.8 stock with the bones top washer on a 8.25 FA deck. I get a little bit of ghost pop on some nollie tricks, but overall they feel fine (maybe its requires more effort to get good pop, but I'm sure that is just a muscle memory issue). Just wanted to hear some thoughts about this bc generally I hear Ventures work best on decks with mellow kicks (my last 2 decks were primitive). Should I just throw my Ace 44's on the FA?

I've had Ventures with forged plates on steep kicks, it was a bit gnarly at first but ended up getting used to it and it was fine. I do think that Ventures tend to work a bit better on medium/mellow ish kicks (at least for me). But I feel like if you've skated Ventures for a while and are used to the feel on mellower kicks, going to Aces which are a very very different truck might mess with you more than Ventures on steeper kicks do.

Easiest fix would probably be smaller wheels, or if you want to change your trucks then maybe Thunders or Indys for a less drastic change... or just get used to it lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on April 28, 2020, 12:42:14 PM
Currently riding FA with 5.8 casts and am getting more ghost nollies than would on a different deck/truck config... I have to definitely concentrate more on smashing the nose down.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: The.Tran.Man on April 28, 2020, 12:57:02 PM
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Anyone ride Ventures on decks with steep kicks? Currently running 5.8 stock with the bones top washer on a 8.25 FA deck. I get a little bit of ghost pop on some nollie tricks, but overall they feel fine (maybe its requires more effort to get good pop, but I'm sure that is just a muscle memory issue). Just wanted to hear some thoughts about this bc generally I hear Ventures work best on decks with mellow kicks (my last 2 decks were primitive). Should I just throw my Ace 44's on the FA?
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I've had Ventures with forged plates on steep kicks, it was a bit gnarly at first but ended up getting used to it and it was fine. I do think that Ventures tend to work a bit better on medium/mellow ish kicks (at least for me). But I feel like if you've skated Ventures for a while and are used to the feel on mellower kicks, going to Aces which are a very very different truck might mess with you more than Ventures on steeper kicks do.

Easiest fix would probably be smaller wheels, or if you want to change your trucks then maybe Thunders or Indys for a less drastic change... or just get used to it lol

thank you your input. i'll probably just keep running the ventures to get more used to it.
I'm aware of how different Aces are, but I do know that Aces are great on decks with steep kicks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: art hellman on April 28, 2020, 12:58:54 PM
relevant to this thread's interests: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110524.msg3279365#new (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110524.msg3279365#new)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on April 28, 2020, 02:15:51 PM
relevant to this thread's interests: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110524.msg3279365#new (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110524.msg3279365#new)
Did you try to became awake but you preferred to know control?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: art hellman on April 28, 2020, 02:49:23 PM
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relevant to this thread's interests: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110524.msg3279365#new (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110524.msg3279365#new)
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Did you try to became awake but you preferred to know control?

hard to say whether I'll be continuing to fuck the rest or have a preference of knowledge of control or loosely saving lives, or heck, maybe I go with the royal standard or have some good times since 1989
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on April 28, 2020, 05:05:35 PM
My local shop just got a massive stock up on Venture. I’ve been able to contain the madness because I haven’t seen them in person but the 6.1s look beautiful. How are they for transition/slappies? Coming off Indy/Ace
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 28, 2020, 08:49:00 PM
Just had a mellow ledge session on my 5.8 v-lights (with those flat washers that have the stem, and riptide pivots) with the ace bushings (low top, standard bottom) and damn, the bushings are good. No squeaking at all, super quiet and turns very smooth.

I don't skate super loose but can definitely see these being very surfy if you do skate loose. But even at my medium to medium loose setting, it felt a little bit turnier than stock without sacrificing stability. Felt like my truck was higher quality if that makes sense. Maybe its because of the fact that its dead silent so no creaking at all.

No sign of the bushings bulging over the flat top and bottom washers either, so far so good. Truck tinkering rarely makes you land tricks better imo. But in this case, though it was likely in my head, I felt a little more centered when popping and it didnt lean on the toes or heels unintentionally.

If you're willing to spend the money because you like to mess with your shit, I'd say its worth it. Definitely makes your trucks feel nicer, but if your trucks were working fine before this, it won't make you actually better at skating by any real margin.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 28, 2020, 08:59:42 PM
Just had a mellow ledge session on my 5.8 v-lights (with those flat washers that have the stem, and riptide pivots) with the ace bushings (low top, standard bottom) and damn, the bushings are good. No squeaking at all, super quiet and turns very smooth.

I don't skate super loose but can definitely see these being very surfy if you do skate loose. But even at my medium to medium loose setting, it felt a little bit turnier than stock without sacrificing stability. Felt like my truck was higher quality if that makes sense. Maybe its because of the fact that its dead silent so no creaking at all.

No sign of the bushings bulging over the flat top and bottom washers either, so far so good. Truck tinkering rarely makes you land tricks better imo. But in this case, though it was likely in my head, I felt a little more centered when popping and it didnt lean on the toes or heels unintentionally.

If you're willing to spend the money because you like to mess with your shit, I'd say its worth it. Definitely makes your trucks feel nicer, but if your trucks were working fine before this, it won't make you actually better at skating by any real margin.
before i broke in my ace bottoms, i was getting that center deadzone feeling. now that they are semi mushy the feeling is gone. if you can keep that feeling past the break in period ill be fully on board to try those washers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 28, 2020, 09:13:59 PM
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Just had a mellow ledge session on my 5.8 v-lights (with those flat washers that have the stem, and riptide pivots) with the ace bushings (low top, standard bottom) and damn, the bushings are good. No squeaking at all, super quiet and turns very smooth.

I don't skate super loose but can definitely see these being very surfy if you do skate loose. But even at my medium to medium loose setting, it felt a little bit turnier than stock without sacrificing stability. Felt like my truck was higher quality if that makes sense. Maybe its because of the fact that its dead silent so no creaking at all.

No sign of the bushings bulging over the flat top and bottom washers either, so far so good. Truck tinkering rarely makes you land tricks better imo. But in this case, though it was likely in my head, I felt a little more centered when popping and it didnt lean on the toes or heels unintentionally.

If you're willing to spend the money because you like to mess with your shit, I'd say its worth it. Definitely makes your trucks feel nicer, but if your trucks were working fine before this, it won't make you actually better at skating by any real margin.
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before i broke in my ace bottoms, i was getting that center deadzone feeling. now that they are semi mushy the feeling is gone. if you can keep that feeling past the break in period ill be fully on board to try those washers

Yeah its likely the washers have something to do with it, hopefully it stays like it is right now because its pretty much perfect. My biggest concerns are bulging and it getting squeaky with time which usually happens to me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 28, 2020, 09:26:04 PM
would you still say theyre better than stock though after they started getting mushy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 28, 2020, 09:48:11 PM
would you still say theyre better than stock though after they started getting mushy
check your messages i PM'd you

and they are better turn wise but for tricks and setting up, i much rather the deadzone. i cant remember how long that feeling lasted but my skating was great during that stage. i could skate near rattly loose and still be stable when its time to set my feet and pop

next pair i buy, ill gauge it. hopefully theres a trick to keeping them that way without having you buy a new set every month or so
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lloyd Braun on April 29, 2020, 08:33:23 AM
Anyone experience ventures getting looser as you skate them? I’ve been skating my current set (5.8 standard) for maybe 3 months all stock, started them like 2-3 turns. I tightened them up a few weeks ago and they seem way looser again. No big deal just wondering if anyone else has had the same experience. I go through trucks fast too, already on the axel on the back truck, lot of slappies.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: arrbee on April 29, 2020, 08:59:32 AM
Anyone experience ventures getting looser as you skate them? I’ve been skating my current set (5.8 standard) for maybe 3 months all stock, started them like 2-3 turns. I tightened them up a few weeks ago and they seem way looser again. No big deal just wondering if anyone else has had the same experience. I go through trucks fast too, already on the axel on the back truck, lot of slappies.

Stock bushings? Also have the temps gotten warmer in your area recently?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 29, 2020, 01:53:42 PM
I scored a second purple tops from a homie so now I'm running stock  bushing with a flat bones washer because it's warm.
I did all the basics out front then i Took the kids to the pond.

I hit the curb do a little crook fakie with the toe up like wacky style rock.

Felt mad good

I don't need no sticking bones
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: skatefresh on April 29, 2020, 02:18:41 PM
Anyone experience ventures getting looser as you skate them? I’ve been skating my current set (5.8 standard) for maybe 3 months all stock, started them like 2-3 turns. I tightened them up a few weeks ago and they seem way looser again. No big deal just wondering if anyone else has had the same experience. I go through trucks fast too, already on the axel on the back truck, lot of slappies.
I've had this experience on my ventures. I've skated 3 sets of 5.25 highs and one set of 5.25 lows. All of them I've had to periodically tighten a full turn or two from factory at some point after they've really broken in until the kingpin is almost one exposed thread showing. I can usually tell because my tre flips get soggy and rocketed when the truck starts loosening up or the bushings get mushier.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on April 30, 2020, 12:56:08 AM
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Anyone experience ventures getting looser as you skate them? I’ve been skating my current set (5.8 standard) for maybe 3 months all stock, started them like 2-3 turns. I tightened them up a few weeks ago and they seem way looser again. No big deal just wondering if anyone else has had the same experience. I go through trucks fast too, already on the axel on the back truck, lot of slappies.
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I've had this experience on my ventures. I've skated 3 sets of 5.25 highs and one set of 5.25 lows. All of them I've had to periodically tighten a full turn or two from factory at some point after they've really broken in until the kingpin is almost one exposed thread showing. I can usually tell because my tre flips get soggy and rocketed when the truck starts loosening up or the bushings get mushier.

Started my 5.2 highs as they were and sadly got to tighten them up a bit now (some weeks in), since I start to get a lot of wheelbite – even though the F4 tablets I'm running have gone down from 54mm to about 52 (51?) due to crusty ground. Kind of like how loose they are now, but hate the slams.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 30, 2020, 01:16:48 AM
over 52mm wheels and low trucks deserves some sort of award
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 30, 2020, 05:04:21 AM
I have bones bushings coming today, does anyone know if I still use the bottom washer with Venture hi's?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: arrbee on April 30, 2020, 05:58:01 AM
I have bones bushings coming today, does anyone know if I still use the bottom washer with Venture hi's?

I haven't on my last 3 sets.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on April 30, 2020, 06:54:55 AM
I have bones bushings coming today, does anyone know if I still use the bottom washer with Venture hi's?

when i had the bones bushings in my titaniums i left the bottom stock washer.  just for further reference though, i ended up going back to the stock bushings and only using the bones top washer.  felt a little better to me overall
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Just Giver on April 30, 2020, 09:34:39 AM
I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 30, 2020, 09:40:49 AM
I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.

I'd pass if I were you.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 30, 2020, 09:45:08 AM
I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.

Haven’t had 55s, nor 6.1s. Currently really want 6.1s.
I went out on 2 different setups, in one day, you know, like a crazy person. One w/ 44s, one w/ 5.2 hi’s. I’ve got the ventures really loose. They turn really well imo. I think you’d probably need some time to break them in, and then they’ll feel great. If you rode Indy for 15 years you skated stage 10s, and sometimes people equate venture hi’s to stage 10s. Ish.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Just Giver on April 30, 2020, 10:07:19 AM
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I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.
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I'd pass if I were you.
My brain has been telling me that, but, goddamnit, their marketing is powerful. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 30, 2020, 10:16:13 AM
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I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.
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I'd pass if I were you.
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My brain has been telling me that, but, goddamnit, their marketing is powerful.

Also extremely relevant that I skipped past: transition. I don’t skate it. So keep that in mind with what I rambled above
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Just Giver on April 30, 2020, 10:22:03 AM
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I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.
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I'd pass if I were you.
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My brain has been telling me that, but, goddamnit, their marketing is powerful.
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Also extremely relevant that I skipped past: transition. I don’t skate it. So keep that in mind with what I rambled above
Thank you.  I skate transition, but I mainly skate street transitions that I find these days.  Ditches, fountains, and random DIYs were the transition is kind of sporadic and you push in between.  I'm not carving as much as if I were skating a bowl. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 30, 2020, 10:52:07 AM
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I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.
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I'd pass if I were you.
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My brain has been telling me that, but, goddamnit, their marketing is powerful.
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Also extremely relevant that I skipped past: transition. I don’t skate it. So keep that in mind with what I rambled above
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Thank you.  I skate transition, but I mainly skate street transitions that I find these days.  Ditches, fountains, and random DIYs were the transition is kind of sporadic and you push in between.  I'm not carving as much as if I were skating a bowl.

Well street tranny vs park/bowl tranny, you should do fine with Ventures then; my statement comes from having used ventures and ACE (And thunder, ML, Indy, Theeve, Tensor...) all the in the same parks (big boy bowls and 1/4 or minis), for the big boy stuff, ACE or Indy all the way - everything else, any truck will do out of the mainstream brands; there are people that shred on everything but you're talking about moving from one camp to the other and it usually doesn't go well, but you might like the stability of Ventures?  Thunders might be a better move?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on April 30, 2020, 10:53:55 AM
Go for it. Can always resell em if you hate. 6.1 pretty popular and were somewhat hard to find
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 30, 2020, 01:21:41 PM
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I have bones bushings coming today, does anyone know if I still use the bottom washer with Venture hi's?
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when i had the bones bushings in my titaniums i left the bottom stock washer.  just for further reference though, i ended up going back to the stock bushings and only using the bones top washer.  felt a little better to me overall

Bones fit fine with no bottom washer, ran both soft and hard (and combos of each) but ultimately felt the ride was better on barrel bushings (better stability on center).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 30, 2020, 01:48:48 PM
Thanks guys I put them on without the bottom washer. Unfortunately its pouring out so I will have to try them out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on May 01, 2020, 01:18:37 AM
over 52mm wheels and low trucks deserves some sort of award

would you consider thunder 147’s low? I ran 53’s on them for a solid 6 months lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 01, 2020, 02:06:38 AM
Once did Thunder 149 standards with 56mm classics and didn't notice wheelbite affecting me that much. Though it was years ago and I'm much more concerned about gear now.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 01, 2020, 06:49:27 AM
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would you consider thunder 147’s low? I ran 53’s on them for a solid 6 months lol
im on thunder forged with 53 conical fulls and i cant wait for these to wear down to 51. getting broke tf off by wheelbite is the most annoying shit. its like getting kicked in the nuts, embarrassing then painful

Once did Thunder 149 standards with 56mm classics and didn't notice wheelbite affecting me that much. Though it was years ago and I'm much more concerned about gear now.
i wish i could for street but thats borderline masochism for me. congrats on pal status!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ferraveemo on May 01, 2020, 08:34:16 AM
Anyone ever ran 5.8's on 8.75/9" Decks?

are they tippy and feel like a magic carpet?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Meathook on May 01, 2020, 09:19:53 AM
Anyone ever ran 5.8's on 8.75/9" Decks?

are they tippy and feel like a magic carpet?

I’m running 5.8 on a scumco 8.75 (measures 8-7/8”) and it doesn’t feel super weird.  Coming from 8-3/8” it takes a bit to get used to but it’s not bad.  Got this board on sale and it’s probably one of the last Pennswood Scumco’s so I wanted it.  I have my own qualms with this deck but it’s a more a wheelbase thing and not a “deck vs truck width” thing.  I think once you get to 8-1/2” trucks they are more stable so you don’t get AS much of a magic carpet feeling compare to say 8” trucks on an 8.25” or larger deck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 01, 2020, 09:29:43 AM
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when i had the bones bushings in my titaniums i left the bottom stock washer.  just for further reference though, i ended up going back to the stock bushings and only using the bones top washer.  felt a little better to me overall

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I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.
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I'd pass if I were you.
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My brain has been telling me that, but, goddamnit, their marketing is powerful.
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Also extremely relevant that I skipped past: transition. I don’t skate it. So keep that in mind with what I rambled above
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Thank you.  I skate transition, but I mainly skate street transitions that I find these days.  Ditches, fountains, and random DIYs were the transition is kind of sporadic and you push in between.  I'm not carving as much as if I were skating a bowl.

IDK. If you like the ace truck wide open and on a large WB it's going to feel like starting all over again for a while.

They rule on the mini ramp though.

This is the second reason why I switched

Also I needed my skate to become difficult again to progress in my mind.

I can't let it fall away to boredom or I'm a dead man
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on May 01, 2020, 02:26:47 PM
Venture cured my truck madness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 01, 2020, 06:17:47 PM
Venture cured my truck madness.
Venture got me off drugs and back into school
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 02, 2020, 01:09:49 PM
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Venture cured my truck madness.
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Venture got me off drugs and back into school

Venture keeping me sane from isolation
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 02, 2020, 01:16:16 PM
Venture kept me from spreading the virus
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on May 02, 2020, 06:09:26 PM
Venture is the most stable thing in my life right now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 02, 2020, 06:14:49 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_sCwtLpCtr/?igshid=5v62w2rgml6x
If there is a 5.6 in these sign me up  :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 02, 2020, 07:32:50 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_sCwtLpCtr/?igshid=5v62w2rgml6x
If there is a 5.6 in these sign me up  :)
im no expert but i do think thats a popular size for ventures. you might be in luck
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 02, 2020, 07:38:45 PM
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If there is a 5.6 in these sign me up  :)
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im no expert but i do think thats a popular size for ventures. you might be in luck
It is but I almost wanna bet they go with a 5.2 and 5.8
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 02, 2020, 07:54:34 PM
The yellow baseplate looks like a big boi 6.1 or 5.8 at the least
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tangar on May 02, 2020, 08:31:07 PM
Venture is the most stable thing in my life right now
100 emoji. I hope they make the Thrasher ones in 6.1. praying hands emoji.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SneakySecrets on May 02, 2020, 08:34:17 PM
I wonder how hard it’d be to scrub the THR SHER off of there cucumber emoji
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on May 03, 2020, 03:41:50 AM
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Venture is the most stable thing in my life right now
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100 emoji. I hope they make the Thrasher ones in 6.1. praying hands emoji.
for sure. Wonder when they make 6.1 forged in general
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on May 04, 2020, 12:13:01 PM
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-07.jpg)
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-08.jpg)

Venture posted the sizing of the Thrasher trucks.  They are the standard team editions in most sizes.  Stoked! 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 04, 2020, 12:15:13 PM
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-07.jpg)
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-08.jpg)

Venture posted the sizing of the Thrasher trucks.  They are the standard team editions in most sizes.  Stoked! 
Fuck yes so stoked.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 04, 2020, 12:31:03 PM
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(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-07.jpg)
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-08.jpg)

Venture posted the sizing of the Thrasher trucks.  They are the standard team editions in most sizes.  Stoked! 
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Fuck yes so stoked.

Hi/lo w/ purple/red is the way
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 04, 2020, 01:24:19 PM
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(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-07.jpg)
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-08.jpg)

Venture posted the sizing of the Thrasher trucks.  They are the standard team editions in most sizes.  Stoked! 
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Fuck yes so stoked.
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Hi/lo w/ purple/red is the way

Definitely scoring a set. I really wish the red bushing in the highs. Especially if that top bushing is little shorter or softer.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on May 04, 2020, 07:30:56 PM
I just bought new Indy’s, but I want these thrasher ventures! one with a silver baseplate, and one with yellow.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Meathook on May 06, 2020, 12:20:16 PM
Anyone have any good recommendations for bushings that are SLIGHTLY harder than stock that actually fit in Ventures?  I’ve been riding stock bushings forever but after recently trying Ace low bushings in them, I liked it a little stiffer.  The mean of the Ace bushings is actually softer than stock 88.5a vs stock 90a), but they were stiff because the Ace bushings are too tall.  Also they splurge out and act strange with various washer combinations besides the washers they came with.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on May 06, 2020, 12:23:22 PM
Indy aftermarket bushings fit in Venture’s right?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ballintoohard on May 06, 2020, 12:37:01 PM
Bones fit perfectly. Karl Watson has been rocking that combo for a decade
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on May 06, 2020, 12:37:21 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_1SH6BlsLP/?igshid=m37fx0vx9o2p
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on May 06, 2020, 02:55:27 PM
Anyone have any good recommendations for bushings that are SLIGHTLY harder than stock that actually fit in Ventures?  I’ve been riding stock bushings forever but after recently trying Ace low bushings in them, I liked it a little stiffer.  The mean of the Ace bushings is actually softer than stock 88.5a vs stock 90a), but they were stiff because the Ace bushings are too tall.  Also they splurge out and act strange with various washer combinations besides the washers they came with.
go dlx supercush. i put in the purple 97a but i'm 200 lbs and they seem to be breaking in fine, nut flush. slightly harder the 94a green ( i think?) might work for u
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 06, 2020, 03:12:39 PM
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Anyone have any good recommendations for bushings that are SLIGHTLY harder than stock that actually fit in Ventures?  I’ve been riding stock bushings forever but after recently trying Ace low bushings in them, I liked it a little stiffer.  The mean of the Ace bushings is actually softer than stock 88.5a vs stock 90a), but they were stiff because the Ace bushings are too tall.  Also they splurge out and act strange with various washer combinations besides the washers they came with.
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go dlx supercush. i put in the purple 97a but i'm 200 lbs and they seem to be breaking in fine, nut flush. slightly harder the 94a green ( i think?) might work for u

I have a set they're 94. They and super soft clear are the only dxl aftermarket available if  at all
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on May 06, 2020, 03:46:38 PM
Finally
(https://i.imgur.com/8RIyziKl.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on May 06, 2020, 03:55:44 PM
The trasher collab comes in 6.1 mag?!!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 06, 2020, 03:56:43 PM
Finally
(https://i.imgur.com/8RIyziKl.jpg)
So dope! I swapped out my green bushings from my worrest and put them in my 5.8 kaders from the stock whites & paired with green and yellow shake junt hardware. Shit looks clean with the Rasta colored sword on the hanger!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 06, 2020, 06:43:55 PM
That's like the rod of David or something like this

not a sword.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on May 06, 2020, 07:42:10 PM
https://venturetrucks.net/

updated. thrasher collab all polished teams. none forged
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on May 07, 2020, 06:31:50 AM
Anyone have any good recommendations for bushings that are SLIGHTLY harder than stock that actually fit in Ventures?  I’ve been riding stock bushings forever but after recently trying Ace low bushings in them, I liked it a little stiffer.  The mean of the Ace bushings is actually softer than stock 88.5a vs stock 90a), but they were stiff because the Ace bushings are too tall.  Also they splurge out and act strange with various washer combinations besides the washers they came with.
I weigh 170 and I've been riding bones medium because the purp got too soft for me. They work really good with venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on May 07, 2020, 08:01:26 PM
Finally
(https://i.imgur.com/8RIyziKl.jpg)
Btw anybody knows a little history behind the graphic? I'm pretty curious
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 07, 2020, 08:07:18 PM
They say the graphic is a reminder to “always pass it on the left hand side” hahaha

https://tgmskateboards.com/venture-trucks-kader-sylla-awake-hi-silver-5-2-8-0/

Description at bottom
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on May 07, 2020, 08:28:59 PM
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Anyone have any good recommendations for bushings that are SLIGHTLY harder than stock that actually fit in Ventures?  I’ve been riding stock bushings forever but after recently trying Ace low bushings in them, I liked it a little stiffer.  The mean of the Ace bushings is actually softer than stock 88.5a vs stock 90a), but they were stiff because the Ace bushings are too tall.  Also they splurge out and act strange with various washer combinations besides the washers they came with.
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I weigh 170 and I've been riding bones medium because the purp got too soft for me. They work really good with venture.
Bones always feel good for a few weeks then they start feeling looser and looser and you always have to tighten them up like once every few weeks to keep them feeling how they originally felt when you put them in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Meathook on May 08, 2020, 08:37:28 AM
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Anyone have any good recommendations for bushings that are SLIGHTLY harder than stock that actually fit in Ventures?  I’ve been riding stock bushings forever but after recently trying Ace low bushings in them, I liked it a little stiffer.  The mean of the Ace bushings is actually softer than stock 88.5a vs stock 90a), but they were stiff because the Ace bushings are too tall.  Also they splurge out and act strange with various washer combinations besides the washers they came with.
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I weigh 170 and I've been riding bones medium because the purp got too soft for me. They work really good with venture.
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Bones always feel good for a few weeks then they start feeling looser and looser and you always have to tighten them up like once every few weeks to keep them feeling how they originally felt when you put them in.

True, bones begin their dying process as soon as you set them up.  I settled with and Indy Soft Conical Bottom (88A) with a stock top.  In the vain of the slightly softer bottom and harder top that Ace has.  Since the Indy bushing is a little taller than stock, it gives some stability and also has a slightly quicker turn similar to Thunder.  Coming from skating Thunder for years, it feels a little closer to that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 08, 2020, 09:08:19 AM
Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, it’s got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32”, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14” wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on May 09, 2020, 07:53:59 AM
Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, it’s got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32”, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14” wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks

i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 09, 2020, 08:15:16 AM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, it’s got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32”, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14” wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment

Quasi ps?
Those your measurements?
Do you measure point to point or tape pressed?
Despite being susceptible to ‘cool’ things, I’ve somehow not skated nearly enough quasi boards.

I am stoked on the 5.8s, need to muscle up a bit.

Thanks for your response and advice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on May 09, 2020, 10:23:06 AM
Quasi is PS yeah
those are the measurements i found on a few sites, but i measured myself(point to point) and it was pretty spot on.  def over 32, i wasnt trying to squint and get up close and personal with the tape measure tho haha.  i had this shape before and liked it, but was skating 149's with it.  the ventures feel better to me now.

another thing- i did add riptide pivot cups and replaced the top washers with flat bones ones
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on May 10, 2020, 04:25:49 AM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, it’s got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32”, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14” wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment

Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 10, 2020, 06:35:50 AM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, it’s got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32”, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14” wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
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Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.

I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but it’s a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25” trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5”.
Next time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 10, 2020, 09:02:08 AM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, it’s got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32”, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14” wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
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Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
Girl and primitive have 825 with 14 inch wheelbase and should be pretty easy to come by. Skatepark of Tampa has a great tool to browse by dimensions
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 10, 2020, 12:12:18 PM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, it’s got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32”, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14” wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
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Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
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I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but it’s a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25” trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5”.
Next time.
try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 10, 2020, 12:19:07 PM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, it’s got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32”, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14” wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
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Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
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I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but it’s a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25” trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5”.
Next time.
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try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g

I agree, to an extent. My ‘logic’ is now that if it needs to rare metals to work, it’s not the right size. Maybe that’s a poor way to look at it on my part tho. Thanks for the thought
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 10, 2020, 02:28:27 PM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, it’s got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32”, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14” wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
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Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
[close]

I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but it’s a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25” trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5”.
Next time.
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try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g
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I agree, to an extent. My ‘logic’ is now that if it needs to rare metals to work, it’s not the right size. Maybe that’s a poor way to look at it on my part tho. Thanks for the thought

Thats not a good way to look at it... some people prefer bigger trucks over smaller ones in every way minus the fact that they're heavier. Getting hollows/titaniums would be a much better solution than sizing down and sticking with raws.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: legion on May 10, 2020, 03:18:43 PM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, it’s got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32”, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14” wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
[close]

Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
[close]

I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but it’s a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25” trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5”.
Next time.
[close]
try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g
[close]

I agree, to an extent. My ‘logic’ is now that if it needs to rare metals to work, it’s not the right size. Maybe that’s a poor way to look at it on my part tho. Thanks for the thought
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Thats not a good way to look at it... some people prefer bigger trucks over smaller ones in every way minus the fact that they're heavier. Getting hollows/titaniums would be a much better solution than sizing down and sticking with raws.
Being extra geeky here..
Anyone notice a change in center of gravity height hollow/Ti axles? Or different size/width wheels?
Heavier axles/wheels would move the CoG down, light would move it up.
Things wanna rotate around their CoG, so lower CoG would make a kickflip rotate more on a centerline going thru both axles.
Higher CoG and the board would wanna rotate more on a line that goes thru the deck.
Can anyone feel that?
I'd experiment more my im just working on getting back flip tricks..

I've noticed it on nollie fs shuvs tho. I do lil ones as a turn around trick, low, probably couldn't get up a curb.
With heavy wheels they feel more natural and I can catch flat. Also didn't mess up impossibles like I thought it would, almost seemed like they spun better. Maybe it's the tension thing?
Lighter wheels make me rocket that trick and I land manny or full on taildrag. I've tried it with the same diameter wheels and 2mm smaller. Maybe it's just me?


How are those Array washers working out for you guys?
Are there about the same thickness as cup washers?
I'm more curious about the top washer. Does the bushing hole get chewed up less? Anyone tried just the top washer?
Do Ventures hangers rub the cup washer?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 10, 2020, 04:26:47 PM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, it’s got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32”, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14” wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
[close]

i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
[close]

Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
[close]

I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but it’s a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25” trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5”.
Next time.
[close]
try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g
[close]

I agree, to an extent. My ‘logic’ is now that if it needs to rare metals to work, it’s not the right size. Maybe that’s a poor way to look at it on my part tho. Thanks for the thought
[close]

Thats not a good way to look at it... some people prefer bigger trucks over smaller ones in every way minus the fact that they're heavier. Getting hollows/titaniums would be a much better solution than sizing down and sticking with raws.
[close]
Being extra geeky here..
Anyone notice a change in center of gravity height hollow/Ti axles? Or different size/width wheels?
Heavier axles/wheels would move the CoG down, light would move it up.
Things wanna rotate around their CoG, so lower CoG would make a kickflip rotate more on a centerline going thru both axles.
Higher CoG and the board would wanna rotate more on a line that goes thru the deck.
Can anyone feel that?
I'd experiment more my im just working on getting back flip tricks..

I've noticed it on nollie fs shuvs tho. I do lil ones as a turn around trick, low, probably couldn't get up a curb.
With heavy wheels they feel more natural and I can catch flat. Also didn't mess up impossibles like I thought it would, almost seemed like they spun better. Maybe it's the tension thing?
Lighter wheels make me rocket that trick and I land manny or full on taildrag. I've tried it with the same diameter wheels and 2mm smaller. Maybe it's just me?


How are those Array washers working out for you guys?
Are there about the same thickness as cup washers?
I'm more curious about the top washer. Does the bushing hole get chewed up less? Anyone tried just the top washer?
Do Ventures hangers rub the cup washer?

I mean its possible I guess but this sounds a bit too crazy to me its probably 99.99% in your head.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 10, 2020, 04:39:09 PM
A wise sage once told me “don’t think about it so much, let the body do the skatin”


Always remind myself that when setting up new shit ;)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 10, 2020, 04:46:09 PM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, it’s got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32”, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14” wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
[close]

i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
[close]

Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
[close]

I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but it’s a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25” trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5”.
Next time.
[close]
try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g
[close]

I agree, to an extent. My ‘logic’ is now that if it needs to rare metals to work, it’s not the right size. Maybe that’s a poor way to look at it on my part tho. Thanks for the thought
[close]

Thats not a good way to look at it... some people prefer bigger trucks over smaller ones in every way minus the fact that they're heavier. Getting hollows/titaniums would be a much better solution than sizing down and sticking with raws.
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Being extra geeky here..
Anyone notice a change in center of gravity height hollow/Ti axles? Or different size/width wheels?
Heavier axles/wheels would move the CoG down, light would move it up.
Things wanna rotate around their CoG, so lower CoG would make a kickflip rotate more on a centerline going thru both axles.
Higher CoG and the board would wanna rotate more on a line that goes thru the deck.
Can anyone feel that?
I'd experiment more my im just working on getting back flip tricks..

I've noticed it on nollie fs shuvs tho. I do lil ones as a turn around trick, low, probably couldn't get up a curb.
With heavy wheels they feel more natural and I can catch flat. Also didn't mess up impossibles like I thought it would, almost seemed like they spun better. Maybe it's the tension thing?
Lighter wheels make me rocket that trick and I land manny or full on taildrag. I've tried it with the same diameter wheels and 2mm smaller. Maybe it's just me?


How are those Array washers working out for you guys?
Are there about the same thickness as cup washers?
I'm more curious about the top washer. Does the bushing hole get chewed up less? Anyone tried just the top washer?
Do Ventures hangers rub the cup washer?
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I mean its possible I guess but this sounds a bit too crazy to me its probably 99.99% in your head.

I blacked out reading the theory, but I can say that I know more than a few that prefer more heft, for certain set ups. Not sure if that’s what you are saying. A board can feel too light for sure.


As to the lighter, but bigger trucks. I’m sure I am wrong. I’ve skated hollow 169s, regular 169s (just as an example). They were just too big either way. I don’t know what messes more with my flips/rotations: weight or width.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on May 10, 2020, 04:51:04 PM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, it’s got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32”, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14” wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
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Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.

My 8.25 DOA is 14wb
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: palelight on May 10, 2020, 05:30:37 PM
My 8.25 DOA is 14wb

Really? All the 8.25's and 8.3's I've had from them are 14.25"wb.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 10, 2020, 06:03:52 PM
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Really? All the 8.25's and 8.3's I've had from them are 14.25"wb.
yeah im calling bullshit on that
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 10, 2020, 07:35:53 PM
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My 8.25 DOA is 14wb
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Really? All the 8.25's and 8.3's I've had from them are 14.25"wb.
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yeah im calling bullshit on that

My square DOA 8.25 is just a hair under 14.25 (more like a 14.2). Nowhere near 14"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on May 10, 2020, 08:34:14 PM
ya’ll right I was tripping with my measurements, apologies
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 13, 2020, 03:59:48 PM
What I thought was a blemish from the rim the cup washer turned out to be a rainbow of Doom crack from one side of the yoke to the other.

I had a public meltdown. Some lady broke the 6 foot law on me. Tried to get me to take an ambulance ride.

I can't take this stress rn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 13, 2020, 05:43:27 PM
What I thought was a blemish from the rim the cup washer turned out to be a rainbow of Doom crack from one side of the yoke to the other.

I had a public meltdown. Some lady broke the 6 foot law on me. Tried to get me to take an ambulance ride.

I can't take this stress rn.

Put your 44s back on mon!


Sorry shit is stressful
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Skart on May 13, 2020, 06:35:46 PM
Mannn sorry Flea
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on May 13, 2020, 08:17:48 PM
does anyone know where to find venture v hollows in 5.2 high? I can find literally every version of the 5.2 except those.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BMCsteve on May 13, 2020, 09:27:25 PM
does anyone know where to find venture v hollows in 5.2 high? I can find literally every version of the 5.2 except those.

Big stock of ventures here http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/search.cfm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on May 13, 2020, 09:48:14 PM
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does anyone know where to find venture v hollows in 5.2 high? I can find literally every version of the 5.2 except those.
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Big stock of ventures here http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/search.cfm

holy shit! thank you Steve.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on May 14, 2020, 03:22:45 AM
Thanks for all the answers about 8.25 deck 14WB. I ended up ordering a Krooked 8.12 with a 14 WB. What do you guys think about Krooked boards? This is my first Krooked, one of my best boards were a Real board. Unfortunately it broke after a bs 180 flat. But the time I had on the board was like heaven.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 14, 2020, 03:56:11 AM
Thanks for all the answers about 8.25 deck 14WB. I ended up ordering a Krooked 8.12 with a 14 WB. What do you guys think about Krooked boards? This is my first Krooked, one of my best boards were a Real board. Unfortunately it broke after a bs 180 flat. But the time I had on the board was like heaven.
I think you would be hard pressed to find someone to say anything bad about any dlx brands quality.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Buck Stefano on May 14, 2020, 08:06:44 AM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, it’s got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32”, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14” wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
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Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
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I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but it’s a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25” trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5”.
Next time.
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try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g
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I agree, to an extent. My ‘logic’ is now that if it needs to rare metals to work, it’s not the right size. Maybe that’s a poor way to look at it on my part tho. Thanks for the thought
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Thats not a good way to look at it... some people prefer bigger trucks over smaller ones in every way minus the fact that they're heavier. Getting hollows/titaniums would be a much better solution than sizing down and sticking with raws.
[close]
Being extra geeky here..
Anyone notice a change in center of gravity height hollow/Ti axles? Or different size/width wheels?
Heavier axles/wheels would move the CoG down, light would move it up.
Things wanna rotate around their CoG, so lower CoG would make a kickflip rotate more on a centerline going thru both axles.
Higher CoG and the board would wanna rotate more on a line that goes thru the deck.
Can anyone feel that?
I'd experiment more my im just working on getting back flip tricks..

I've noticed it on nollie fs shuvs tho. I do lil ones as a turn around trick, low, probably couldn't get up a curb.
With heavy wheels they feel more natural and I can catch flat. Also didn't mess up impossibles like I thought it would, almost seemed like they spun better. Maybe it's the tension thing?
Lighter wheels make me rocket that trick and I land manny or full on taildrag. I've tried it with the same diameter wheels and 2mm smaller. Maybe it's just me?


How are those Array washers working out for you guys?
Are there about the same thickness as cup washers?
I'm more curious about the top washer. Does the bushing hole get chewed up less? Anyone tried just the top washer?
Do Ventures hangers rub the cup washer?

I agree that the axis of rotation will be wherever the most weight is on your set up. Moreover, I think it holds that the higher off the ground, the higher the center of gravity, the closer to the ground the lower.

If you jump between truck and wheel heights, you’re messing with the angle your board makes when you pop the tail. Which in turn is confusing the timing youve developed in your muscle memory for performing tricks.

The easiest way to combat this, ive found (at least for maintaining tricks across diff set ups and perhaps can help you do your tricks the same way across diff set ups) is to always have your front foot just behind the front axle and your back foot as close to the tip of the tail as possible, this foot placement gives you balanced leverage on any combo of trucks, decks, wheels, etc. when performing tricks.

If you try this stance on your board and it feels unstable or gross, chances are you dont have the optimal mix of dimensions across your set up for your given body type. All that being said, it’s much easier to just stick with whatever feels comfortable.

The skateboard is ultimately a tool you manipulate. Youre the one doing the tricks and your anatomy and bio mechanics arent that variable, so all your doing when you change your set up, is developing your muscles’ understanding of how different set ups (re: diff levers) can be manipulated by your body.

Def got on a diff tangent, that’s enough of the grand unified theory of skateboarding.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wafools on May 14, 2020, 11:56:13 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/48PLT1P/BADB8-C73-70-AB-4108-A4-EE-5-F7924-ACD0-EB.png) (https://ibb.co/gSz8T4z)

As seen on Mike Anderson’s insta.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wafools on May 14, 2020, 11:57:20 AM
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Thanks for all the answers about 8.25 deck 14WB. I ended up ordering a Krooked 8.12 with a 14 WB. What do you guys think about Krooked boards? This is my first Krooked, one of my best boards were a Real board. Unfortunately it broke after a bs 180 flat. But the time I had on the board was like heaven.
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I think you would be hard pressed to find someone to say anything bad about any dlx brands quality.

True. I have been skating dlx boards for maybe 10 years and never had any problems with them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, it’s got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32”, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14” wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
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Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
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I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but it’s a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25” trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5”.
Next time.
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try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g
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I agree, to an extent. My ‘logic’ is now that if it needs to rare metals to work, it’s not the right size. Maybe that’s a poor way to look at it on my part tho. Thanks for the thought
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Thats not a good way to look at it... some people prefer bigger trucks over smaller ones in every way minus the fact that they're heavier. Getting hollows/titaniums would be a much better solution than sizing down and sticking with raws.
[close]
Being extra geeky here..
Anyone notice a change in center of gravity height hollow/Ti axles? Or different size/width wheels?
Heavier axles/wheels would move the CoG down, light would move it up.
Things wanna rotate around their CoG, so lower CoG would make a kickflip rotate more on a centerline going thru both axles.
Higher CoG and the board would wanna rotate more on a line that goes thru the deck.
Can anyone feel that?
I'd experiment more my im just working on getting back flip tricks..

I've noticed it on nollie fs shuvs tho. I do lil ones as a turn around trick, low, probably couldn't get up a curb.
With heavy wheels they feel more natural and I can catch flat. Also didn't mess up impossibles like I thought it would, almost seemed like they spun better. Maybe it's the tension thing?
Lighter wheels make me rocket that trick and I land manny or full on taildrag. I've tried it with the same diameter wheels and 2mm smaller. Maybe it's just me?


How are those Array washers working out for you guys?
Are there about the same thickness as cup washers?
I'm more curious about the top washer. Does the bushing hole get chewed up less? Anyone tried just the top washer?
Do Ventures hangers rub the cup washer?
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I agree that the axis of rotation will be wherever the most weight is on your set up. Moreover, I think it holds that the higher off the ground, the higher the center of gravity, the closer to the ground the lower.

If you jump between truck and wheel heights, you’re messing with the angle your board makes when you pop the tail. Which in turn is confusing the timing youve developed in your muscle memory for performing tricks.

The easiest way to combat this, ive found (at least for maintaining tricks across diff set ups and perhaps can help you do your tricks the same way across diff set ups) is to always have your front foot just behind the front axle and your back foot as close to the tip of the tail as possible, this foot placement gives you balanced leverage on any combo of trucks, decks, wheels, etc. when performing tricks.

If you try this stance on your board and it feels unstable or gross, chances are you dont have the optimal mix of dimensions across your set up for your given body type. All that being said, it’s much easier to just stick with whatever feels comfortable.

The skateboard is ultimately a tool you manipulate. Youre the one doing the tricks and your anatomy and bio mechanics arent that variable, so all your doing when you change your set up, is developing your muscles’ understanding of how different set ups (re: diff levers) can be manipulated by your body.

Def got on a diff tangent, that’s enough of the grand unified theory of skateboarding.

This is definitely not universal. Over the years as I've skated many different setups with varying truck/board/wheel combos I've found popping with my back foot in the pocket for flatground tricks, though switch and ledge tricks my popping foot is still on the tip-ish.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on May 14, 2020, 01:25:42 PM
Tactics have the new Thrasher models in stock, ordered a pair yesterday
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on May 14, 2020, 06:32:09 PM
Tactics have the new Thrasher models in stock, ordered a pair yesterday

you get yellow baseplates, or all polished?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on May 14, 2020, 09:00:28 PM
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Tactics have the new Thrasher models in stock, ordered a pair yesterday
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you get yellow baseplates, or all polished?

I grabbed the all polished 5.8's
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Davethedavedave on May 14, 2020, 10:57:41 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on May 15, 2020, 09:07:23 AM
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My 8.25 DOA is 14wb
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Really? All the 8.25's and 8.3's I've had from them are 14.25"wb.
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yeah im calling bullshit on that
Are you all riding Ventures on your DOA decks? I have the square 8.25 and can't decide if I like it better on Indy's (shorter wheelbase) or Thunders (longer wheelbase).  I rode ventures years ago, so nostalgia has me interested in jumping back in. As to the DOA though, I am curious to know how it feels with Ventures, which would push our the wheelbase even more than Thunders.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 15, 2020, 11:20:39 AM
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My 8.25 DOA is 14wb
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Really? All the 8.25's and 8.3's I've had from them are 14.25"wb.
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yeah im calling bullshit on that
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Are you all riding Ventures on your DOA decks? I have the square 8.25 and can't decide if I like it better on Indy's (shorter wheelbase) or Thunders (longer wheelbase).  I rode ventures years ago, so nostalgia has me interested in jumping back in. As to the DOA though, I am curious to know how it feels with Ventures, which would push our the wheelbase even more than Thunders.

I tried them out on the square 8.25 DOA, WB was fine (but I'm used to that as I don't mind WB that are in the 14.3+ range. The thing that felt just a little off but I got used to it, was the pop with the short steep tail (compared to the long mellow tail on the primitive decks I was riding the ventures on). The more I ride the ventures on different decks the more I feel they work best (for me) on 2 finger flat/long tails (over 6.5")/mellow kicks.

Or, I just like steep short tails with indys/ACE more as I have more pop power than finesse.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on May 15, 2020, 11:57:57 AM
I tried them out on the square 8.25 DOA, WB was fine (but I'm used to that as I don't mind WB that are in the 14.3+ range. The thing that felt just a little off but I got used to it, was the pop with the short steep tail (compared to the long mellow tail on the primitive decks I was riding the ventures on). The more I ride the ventures on different decks the more I feel they work best (for me) on 2 finger flat/long tails (over 6.5")/mellow kicks.

Or, I just like steep short tails with indys/ACE more as I have more pop power than finesse.
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Thanks for the response. I feel like I run around in circles with all the gear madness, but it is fun to tinker with different set-ups, especially while "working" from home. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 15, 2020, 07:34:06 PM
I tried them out on the square 8.25 DOA, WB was fine (but I'm used to that as I don't mind WB that are in the 14.3+ range. The thing that felt just a little off but I got used to it, was the pop with the short steep tail (compared to the long mellow tail on the primitive decks I was riding the ventures on). The more I ride the ventures on different decks the more I feel they work best (for me) on 2 finger flat/long tails (over 6.5")/mellow kicks.

Or, I just like steep short tails with indys/ACE more as I have more pop power than finesse.

Thanks for the response. I feel like I run around in circles with all the gear madness, but it is fun to tinker with different set-ups, especially while "working" from home.
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Screwed around a bit today and put together a board with steep kicks (impact light) on a 14.25 WB and Theeves (much tighter WB than the Ventures but around the same height) + 52mm wheels.

After skating Ventures on mellow kicks (and steep) and short WBs with 52s stepping to the other end of the spectrum felt much better, as in right away much better...I didn't have to work for my pop as much.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sgm06sti on May 18, 2020, 03:20:48 AM
Could anyone tell me if the graphics on these 5.25 V-Hollow light lo are the current outgoing one ? All the pictures I see of these trucks are from 2017. Thanks !

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-trucks-v-hollow-lights-polished-low-5-25-truck-silver_p77613?cPath=44&brand_id=98
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on May 18, 2020, 04:43:08 AM
Could anyone tell me if the graphics on these 5.25 V-Hollow light lo are the current outgoing one ? All the pictures I see of these trucks are from 2017. Thanks !

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-trucks-v-hollow-lights-polished-low-5-25-truck-silver_p77613?cPath=44&brand_id=98

that’s what they used to look like, with the gold washers and stuff. now they’re all silver, with a small red/blue sticker on both hangers, no graphic. those ventures on that website might be old stock though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sgm06sti on May 18, 2020, 04:48:10 AM
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Could anyone tell me if the graphics on these 5.25 V-Hollow light lo are the current outgoing one ? All the pictures I see of these trucks are from 2017. Thanks !

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-trucks-v-hollow-lights-polished-low-5-25-truck-silver_p77613?cPath=44&brand_id=98
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that’s what they used to look like, with the gold washers and stuff. now they’re all silver, with a small red/blue sticker on both hangers, no graphic. those ventures on that website might be old stock though.

Yeah I kinda figured that was no longer the current look. I am also not sure if the website image is out of date or if that is the truck they shipped me. Should have it Thursday.

Next question ha beside the look did anything else change year to year ?

Thanks !
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on May 18, 2020, 07:13:55 AM
Certain those aren’t Street Corner. I’ve had 3 sets of the 5.2 V-Hollow Hi’s including that graphic now phased out and they are all identical. Plus I don’t think DLX would sell the apparently fairly shite previous versions on their own site?

I’m lucky I missed a few years so went straight from the mid 90’s to the new ones avoiding the giant red “V” both feel good but the new ones are massively more precise feeling and all round better put together IMO.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on May 18, 2020, 07:18:16 AM
I think the only change I’ve noticed in the last couple of years is the hanger size is now stamped just behind the pivot and the yoke hole to ID all the new widths (5.2H, 6.1 etc)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sgm06sti on May 18, 2020, 07:26:35 AM
Cool Cool. Thanks all just figured I would ask :). Coming from the world of cars and computers companies are always changing little things year to year.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on May 18, 2020, 02:58:53 PM
Anyone know what the durometer is for the purple bushings Venture usually has in some of their trucks?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Kneesles on May 18, 2020, 03:11:30 PM
Anyone know what the durometer is for the purple bushings Venture usually has in some of their trucks?
From what i have gathered the purples are 97a and the greens are 94a, at least that's what the dlx supercush bushings are.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 18, 2020, 03:43:17 PM
Anyone know what the durometer is for the purple bushings Venture usually has in some of their trucks?

if you are talking stock purples then they should be 90a like most brands. However the aftermarket purps are 97a from DLX supercush as stated above. Aftermarket DLX supercush 90a will be Orange
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on May 18, 2020, 04:32:20 PM
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Anyone know what the durometer is for the purple bushings Venture usually has in some of their trucks?
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if you are talking stock purples then they should be 90a like most brands. However the aftermarket purps are 97a from DLX supercush as stated above. Aftermarket DLX supercush 90a will be Orange

Ya theyre def not 98a cuz they feel super soft, thx guys
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 19, 2020, 12:01:03 PM
Threw my Ti/Forged on a 14.44 WB for the hell of it....didn't hate it, thought I would..it's a Creature, pretty flat concave (stated as medium) kicks are abrupt AFTER the fingers of flat, so with the Ventures it's a bit odd....from the bolt holes it's about two fingers of flat...from the end of the baseplate (underside/roadside) to the tail kick it's less than a fingers width; basically the kick starts right at the baseplate.

I'm still trying to find out what the best pairing deck-wise is: steep/flat, long tail, short tail, etc., for power specifically...madness

Also, the ACE bushing (low top, reg bottom)/Riptide combo is still the best I've found for my turning preferences. They're really nice and swevrey (not twitchy or carvey). I'm bouncing between these with small wheels med/mellow kicks and Tensor ATGs with bigger wheels and steeper kicks because why not.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 19, 2020, 03:59:00 PM
Threw my Ti/Forged on a 14.44 WB for the hell of it....didn't hate it, thought I would..it's a Creature, pretty flat concave (stated as medium) kicks are abrupt AFTER the fingers of flat, so with the Ventures it's a bit odd....from the bolt holes it's about two fingers of flat...from the end of the baseplate (underside/roadside) to the tail kick it's less than a fingers width; basically the kick starts right at the baseplate.

I'm still trying to find out what the best pairing deck-wise is: steep/flat, long tail, short tail, etc., for power specifically...madness

Also, the ACE bushing (low top, reg bottom)/Riptide combo is still the best I've found for my turning preferences. They're really nice and swevrey (not twitchy or carvey). I'm bouncing between these with small wheels med/mellow kicks and Tensor ATGs with bigger wheels and steeper kicks because why not.

I've personally settled on 14.25-14.38 wb on venture forged plates. Its comfortable for me and minus one or two specific scenarios it doesn't make much of a difference. Never paid too much attention to kick length or steepness/flatness, kinda just ballpark infer the kicks from the length and wheelbase measurements and hope that its not too far from medium, which I think works best for me, definitely notice it a bit when its too steep or flat.

That Ace bushings + riptide + the flat washer with stem combo is great. I'm really liking it on my setup, no squeak, nice snap to center and a smooth predictable turn. I think a little bit turnier than stock. I'm worried about the bushings bulging though so I've been taking the kingpin nut off after skating to release the tension and just tightening before I go out to skate and a few weeks in they've held up great.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 19, 2020, 04:33:55 PM
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Threw my Ti/Forged on a 14.44 WB for the hell of it....didn't hate it, thought I would..it's a Creature, pretty flat concave (stated as medium) kicks are abrupt AFTER the fingers of flat, so with the Ventures it's a bit odd....from the bolt holes it's about two fingers of flat...from the end of the baseplate (underside/roadside) to the tail kick it's less than a fingers width; basically the kick starts right at the baseplate.

I'm still trying to find out what the best pairing deck-wise is: steep/flat, long tail, short tail, etc., for power specifically...madness

Also, the ACE bushing (low top, reg bottom)/Riptide combo is still the best I've found for my turning preferences. They're really nice and swevrey (not twitchy or carvey). I'm bouncing between these with small wheels med/mellow kicks and Tensor ATGs with bigger wheels and steeper kicks because why not.
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I've personally settled on 14.25-14.38 wb on venture forged plates. Its comfortable for me and minus one or two specific scenarios it doesn't make much of a difference. Never paid too much attention to kick length or steepness/flatness, kinda just ballpark infer the kicks from the length and wheelbase measurements and hope that its not too far from medium, which I think works best for me, definitely notice it a bit when its too steep or flat.

That Ace bushings + riptide + the flat washer with stem combo is great. I'm really liking it on my setup, no squeak, nice snap to center and a smooth predictable turn. I think a little bit turnier than stock. I'm worried about the bushings bulging though so I've been taking the kingpin nut off after skating to release the tension and just tightening before I go out to skate and a few weeks in they've held up great.

Forgot to mention the stem washers, the combo is really snappy. Are yo using low/ high Ace combo? I'm using those excessive to kingpin nuts and it saves a few threads of bulge...you could always just shave down the top bushings more?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 19, 2020, 04:42:01 PM
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Threw my Ti/Forged on a 14.44 WB for the hell of it....didn't hate it, thought I would..it's a Creature, pretty flat concave (stated as medium) kicks are abrupt AFTER the fingers of flat, so with the Ventures it's a bit odd....from the bolt holes it's about two fingers of flat...from the end of the baseplate (underside/roadside) to the tail kick it's less than a fingers width; basically the kick starts right at the baseplate.

I'm still trying to find out what the best pairing deck-wise is: steep/flat, long tail, short tail, etc., for power specifically...madness

Also, the ACE bushing (low top, reg bottom)/Riptide combo is still the best I've found for my turning preferences. They're really nice and swevrey (not twitchy or carvey). I'm bouncing between these with small wheels med/mellow kicks and Tensor ATGs with bigger wheels and steeper kicks because why not.
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I've personally settled on 14.25-14.38 wb on venture forged plates. Its comfortable for me and minus one or two specific scenarios it doesn't make much of a difference. Never paid too much attention to kick length or steepness/flatness, kinda just ballpark infer the kicks from the length and wheelbase measurements and hope that its not too far from medium, which I think works best for me, definitely notice it a bit when its too steep or flat.

That Ace bushings + riptide + the flat washer with stem combo is great. I'm really liking it on my setup, no squeak, nice snap to center and a smooth predictable turn. I think a little bit turnier than stock. I'm worried about the bushings bulging though so I've been taking the kingpin nut off after skating to release the tension and just tightening before I go out to skate and a few weeks in they've held up great.
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Forgot to mention the stem washers, the combo is really snappy. Are yo using low/ high Ace combo? I'm using those excessive to kingpin nuts and it saves a few threads of bulge...you could always just shave down the top bushings more?

Yeah the low/high combo. I could shave the top bushing more I guess, but I really like the tightness with the stock kingpin nut about flush with the current combo. I don't think it actually would bulge out badly like bones bushing sometimes do but its just a safety precaution. If the bottom bushing goes to shit I'm going to try the low bottoms, seems like they also fit fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 19, 2020, 05:20:52 PM
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Threw my Ti/Forged on a 14.44 WB for the hell of it....didn't hate it, thought I would..it's a Creature, pretty flat concave (stated as medium) kicks are abrupt AFTER the fingers of flat, so with the Ventures it's a bit odd....from the bolt holes it's about two fingers of flat...from the end of the baseplate (underside/roadside) to the tail kick it's less than a fingers width; basically the kick starts right at the baseplate.

I'm still trying to find out what the best pairing deck-wise is: steep/flat, long tail, short tail, etc., for power specifically...madness

Also, the ACE bushing (low top, reg bottom)/Riptide combo is still the best I've found for my turning preferences. They're really nice and swevrey (not twitchy or carvey). I'm bouncing between these with small wheels med/mellow kicks and Tensor ATGs with bigger wheels and steeper kicks because why not.
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I've personally settled on 14.25-14.38 wb on venture forged plates. Its comfortable for me and minus one or two specific scenarios it doesn't make much of a difference. Never paid too much attention to kick length or steepness/flatness, kinda just ballpark infer the kicks from the length and wheelbase measurements and hope that its not too far from medium, which I think works best for me, definitely notice it a bit when its too steep or flat.

That Ace bushings + riptide + the flat washer with stem combo is great. I'm really liking it on my setup, no squeak, nice snap to center and a smooth predictable turn. I think a little bit turnier than stock. I'm worried about the bushings bulging though so I've been taking the kingpin nut off after skating to release the tension and just tightening before I go out to skate and a few weeks in they've held up great.
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Forgot to mention the stem washers, the combo is really snappy. Are yo using low/ high Ace combo? I'm using those excessive to kingpin nuts and it saves a few threads of bulge...you could always just shave down the top bushings more?
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Yeah the low/high combo. I could shave the top bushing more I guess, but I really like the tightness with the stock kingpin nut about flush with the current combo. I don't think it actually would bulge out badly like bones bushing sometimes do but its just a safety precaution. If the bottom bushing goes to shit I'm going to try the low bottoms, seems like they also fit fine.

I popped the low bottoms in 'just to see'  and yeah, it didn't seem like it affected anything at all, no weird angles, odd because it's a pretty significant height difference.

What size wheels are you running? I'm 51s heading into 50mm territory.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on May 19, 2020, 11:50:02 PM
Just wanted to comment real quick that I started skating my set of venture 5.8s months ago and they keep getting better with age. They feel all surfy now but with that great venture stability at the same time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 20, 2020, 12:01:15 AM
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Threw my Ti/Forged on a 14.44 WB for the hell of it....didn't hate it, thought I would..it's a Creature, pretty flat concave (stated as medium) kicks are abrupt AFTER the fingers of flat, so with the Ventures it's a bit odd....from the bolt holes it's about two fingers of flat...from the end of the baseplate (underside/roadside) to the tail kick it's less than a fingers width; basically the kick starts right at the baseplate.

I'm still trying to find out what the best pairing deck-wise is: steep/flat, long tail, short tail, etc., for power specifically...madness

Also, the ACE bushing (low top, reg bottom)/Riptide combo is still the best I've found for my turning preferences. They're really nice and swevrey (not twitchy or carvey). I'm bouncing between these with small wheels med/mellow kicks and Tensor ATGs with bigger wheels and steeper kicks because why not.
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I've personally settled on 14.25-14.38 wb on venture forged plates. Its comfortable for me and minus one or two specific scenarios it doesn't make much of a difference. Never paid too much attention to kick length or steepness/flatness, kinda just ballpark infer the kicks from the length and wheelbase measurements and hope that its not too far from medium, which I think works best for me, definitely notice it a bit when its too steep or flat.

That Ace bushings + riptide + the flat washer with stem combo is great. I'm really liking it on my setup, no squeak, nice snap to center and a smooth predictable turn. I think a little bit turnier than stock. I'm worried about the bushings bulging though so I've been taking the kingpin nut off after skating to release the tension and just tightening before I go out to skate and a few weeks in they've held up great.
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Forgot to mention the stem washers, the combo is really snappy. Are yo using low/ high Ace combo? I'm using those excessive to kingpin nuts and it saves a few threads of bulge...you could always just shave down the top bushings more?
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Yeah the low/high combo. I could shave the top bushing more I guess, but I really like the tightness with the stock kingpin nut about flush with the current combo. I don't think it actually would bulge out badly like bones bushing sometimes do but its just a safety precaution. If the bottom bushing goes to shit I'm going to try the low bottoms, seems like they also fit fine.
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I popped the low bottoms in 'just to see'  and yeah, it didn't seem like it affected anything at all, no weird angles, odd because it's a pretty significant height difference.

What size wheels are you running? I'm 51s heading into 50mm territory.

54 99 radial slims. Yeah really strange, the low and normal bottoms are very different in size but both fit in there perfectly.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jamersonbass on May 20, 2020, 05:04:41 AM
Just wanted to comment real quick that I started skating my set of venture 5.8s months ago and they keep getting better with age. They feel all surfy now but with that great venture stability at the same time.

This has been happening on my 6.1's the last few weeks.  Super good feeling.  Hasn't caught up to my 5.6's yet, but I wasn't feeling those on my 8.25 deck, so I just got a set of 5.8's yesterday and hoping they work out better for my smaller setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on May 20, 2020, 06:14:23 AM
Just wanted to comment real quick that I started skating my set of venture 5.8s months ago and they keep getting better with age. They feel all surfy now but with that great venture stability at the same time.
I agree 100 percent. I added flat washers and I now have no need for ever trying any other truck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on May 20, 2020, 06:15:28 AM
Would 5.8 be a bit too big for a 8.125 deck? Or would a 5.6 be a bit better.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: arrbee on May 20, 2020, 06:24:07 AM
Would 5.8 be a bit too big for a 8.125 deck? Or would a 5.6 be a bit better.

Personally I would do the 5.6
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 20, 2020, 09:39:53 AM
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Would 5.8 be a bit too big for a 8.125 deck? Or would a 5.6 be a bit better.
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Personally I would do the 5.6
I agree while you could do the 5.8 I think it’s a hair too long and the 5.6 would be perfect and that’s my current setup now, 8.1 with 5.6
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 20, 2020, 10:06:54 AM
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Would 5.8 be a bit too big for a 8.125 deck? Or would a 5.6 be a bit better.
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Personally I would do the 5.6

I just came off an 8.125 with 5.6s, works great. 5.8 would look/feel too wide for my taste, diminishing the purpose of a 8.125"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 20, 2020, 04:39:04 PM
Anyone here on the ti’s? Thought about getting a set for the hangars to lighten it up but keep the cast plates of the raws. How are you liking them?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 20, 2020, 04:53:49 PM
Anyone here on the ti’s? Thought about getting a set for the hangars to lighten it up but keep the cast plates of the raws. How are you liking them?

I've had tis, they were great. Noticeably lighter.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 20, 2020, 07:12:00 PM
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Would 5.8 be a bit too big for a 8.125 deck? Or would a 5.6 be a bit better.
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Personally I would do the 5.6
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I just came off an 8.125 with 5.6s, works great. 5.8 would look/feel too wide for my taste, diminishing the purpose of a 8.125"

Was just skating 8.126 w/5.8, mainly for wb experimentation. Can confirm that it works, but it’s not ideal route imo. Plenty of people shred on a similar ratio, and if it’s what you have you shouldn’t let it hold you back, but for me I’d rather have the narrower trucks for more flip.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 20, 2020, 10:18:17 PM
Would 5.8 be a bit too big for a 8.125 deck? Or would a 5.6 be a bit better.

5.6, riding 5.8 on a Real 8.18 and while the width is managable, the weight feels a little off.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on May 21, 2020, 06:47:40 AM
Anyone here on the ti’s? Thought about getting a set for the hangars to lighten it up but keep the cast plates of the raws. How are you liking them?

Got the 5.2s Ti Hi, now broken in, really like them. Only thing I dont like is the golden baseplate, which isn't a deal breaker for you...
Setup feels sooo light.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on May 21, 2020, 07:48:13 AM
Has anyone noticed a huge difference between cast and forged base plates  as far as the wheel base push?  I know there’s a difference but is it bad  or noticeable? Pros cons?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 21, 2020, 12:18:15 PM
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Anyone here on the ti’s? Thought about getting a set for the hangars to lighten it up but keep the cast plates of the raws. How are you liking them?
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Got the 5.2s Ti Hi, now broken in, really like them. Only thing I dont like is the golden baseplate, which isn't a deal breaker for you...
Setup feels sooo light.
Mannnn, while I don’t want to get another crook groove started I do want to get some weight off my current trucks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 21, 2020, 04:22:47 PM
Anyone here on the ti’s? Thought about getting a set for the hangars to lighten it up but keep the cast plates of the raws. How are you liking them?
If you can find some hollows cheaper than tits I would go that route. However if you splurge on Tits they are worth it IMO, I am riding a 5.6 Tit hanger with cast plates from another set as my main and I swear by it. I did a weighing on my truck combos (per truck) so maybe I can help break some of this down.

5.2 titanium hanger with forged plates - 308g
5.2 raw hanger with cast plates - 362g
5.2 raw hanger with forged plates - 342g
5.6 Titanium hanger with cast plates - 336g
5.6 raw hanger with cast plates - 371g
5.6 titanium hanger with forged plates - 315g
5.8 raw hanger with cast plates - 376g

I don’t have each versions of these trucks that would be madness lol I just swapped hangers and plates to get weight measurements. But yeah at 335-336 per truck with the titanium hanger and cast plate it’s a sick combo for me street skating. I like more weight on trucks and whip out the 5.8 for hills and tranny however.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 21, 2020, 06:09:18 PM
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Anyone here on the ti’s? Thought about getting a set for the hangars to lighten it up but keep the cast plates of the raws. How are you liking them?
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If you can find some hollows cheaper than tits I would go that route. However if you splurge on Tits they are worth it IMO, I am riding a 5.6 Tit hanger with cast plates from another set as my main and I swear by it. I did a weighing on my truck combos (per truck) so maybe I can help break some of this down.

5.2 titanium hanger with forged plates - 308g
5.2 raw hanger with cast plates - 362g
5.2 raw hanger with forged plates - 342g
5.6 Titanium hanger with cast plates - 336g
5.6 raw hanger with cast plates - 371g
5.6 titanium hanger with forged plates - 315g
5.8 raw hanger with cast plates - 376g

I don’t have each versions of these trucks that would be madness lol I just swapped hangers and plates to get weight measurements. But yeah at 335-336 per truck with the titanium hanger and cast plate it’s a sick combo for me street skating. I like more weight on trucks and whip out the 5.8 for hills and tranny however.
Thanks for this. Great to have some numbers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 21, 2020, 06:21:32 PM
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If you can find some hollows cheaper than tits I would go that route. However if you splurge on Tits they are worth it IMO, I am riding a 5.6 Tit hanger with cast plates from another set as my main and I swear by it. I did a weighing on my truck combos (per truck) so maybe I can help break some of this down.

5.2 titanium hanger with forged plates - 308g
5.2 raw hanger with cast plates - 362g
5.2 raw hanger with forged plates - 342g
5.6 Titanium hanger with cast plates - 336g
5.6 raw hanger with cast plates - 371g
5.6 titanium hanger with forged plates - 315g
5.8 raw hanger with cast plates - 376g

I don’t have each versions of these trucks that would be madness lol I just swapped hangers and plates to get weight measurements. But yeah at 335-336 per truck with the titanium hanger and cast plate it’s a sick combo for me street skating. I like more weight on trucks and whip out the 5.8 for hills and tranny however.
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Thanks for this. Great to have some numbers

For reals.

Are these with stock bushings/washers?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 21, 2020, 06:26:16 PM
Yeah all stock!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 21, 2020, 06:40:40 PM
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Anyone here on the ti’s? Thought about getting a set for the hangars to lighten it up but keep the cast plates of the raws. How are you liking them?
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If you can find some hollows cheaper than tits I would go that route. However if you splurge on Tits they are worth it IMO, I am riding a 5.6 Tit hanger with cast plates from another set as my main and I swear by it. I did a weighing on my truck combos (per truck) so maybe I can help break some of this down.

5.2 titanium hanger with forged plates - 308g
5.2 raw hanger with cast plates - 362g
5.2 raw hanger with forged plates - 342g
5.6 Titanium hanger with cast plates - 336g
5.6 raw hanger with cast plates - 371g
5.6 titanium hanger with forged plates - 315g
5.8 raw hanger with cast plates - 376g

I don’t have each versions of these trucks that would be madness lol I just swapped hangers and plates to get weight measurements. But yeah at 335-336 per truck with the titanium hanger and cast plate it’s a sick combo for me street skating. I like more weight on trucks and whip out the 5.8 for hills and tranny however.
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Thanks for this. Great to have some numbers

Nice work. Last pair of trucks I really loved was 5.2 V-Hollow Lo (forged) with a short 14" WB deck. My post-COVID-19 setup will be 5.6 Titanium with cast plates plates for a 14.125" WB Magenta.

Fuck this lockdown sucks donkey dick.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fulfillthedream on May 21, 2020, 11:25:36 PM
https://www.instagram.com/ben_degros/?hl=en


he posts a lot of truck specs on ventures. he also has a bunch of boards he tries with different board shapes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TheBoognish on May 22, 2020, 06:34:21 AM
Got about 10 hours on my 5.6’s. At first I found the purple bushings a bit too soft but after a few sessions and a bit of tinkering with the tightness, I found that these are my favourite trucks in years.

I also have 5.2’s with white bushings and those feel significantly harder.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jennyjenny on May 22, 2020, 08:02:52 AM
that top bushing looks like shit in the 2nd pic.


almost grabbed some of those the other day online, glad i didn't.

The standard (red) bushings in the Venture polished trucks are really good though. Doesn't take long to "break in".
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on May 22, 2020, 08:11:39 AM
I threw in some Indy orange bushings in my 5.6s, gonna try them out later today after work
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mbam003 on May 25, 2020, 12:26:56 PM
Hollow or raw/polished (the heavy version) for Ventures?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 25, 2020, 12:32:08 PM
Hollow or raw/polished (the heavy version) for Ventures?
depends. What are you shred ambitions? For me it’s tits/hollows/lights for flat/ledges/mellow sets. If I’m bombing or rollin tranny it’s raws all day. If you scroll up this thread I have some weight measurements for my venture trucks. If you go hollow it will mesh more with the titanium weights I have listed.

The only trucks that matter.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mbam003 on May 25, 2020, 12:53:26 PM
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depends. What are you shred ambitions? For me it’s tits/hollows/lights for flat/ledges/mellow sets. If I’m bombing or rollin tranny it’s raws all day. If you scroll up this thread I have some weight measurements for my venture trucks. If you go hollow it will mesh more with the titanium weights I have listed.

The only trucks that matter.

I'm looking for that hefty, stable, poppy feeling that many are describing with Ventures, so I may go with the raws. I'm riding miniramps a lot now so that's an added bonus.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on May 25, 2020, 02:13:51 PM
After trying out some 5.6 raws with the orange Indy bushings yesterday, i can honestly say i think Ventures are now my go-to truck. Took me a little bit to get used to them cuz i normally ride Indys, but I really liked the pop on em.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 25, 2020, 07:26:57 PM
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depends. What are you shred ambitions? For me it’s tits/hollows/lights for flat/ledges/mellow sets. If I’m bombing or rollin tranny it’s raws all day. If you scroll up this thread I have some weight measurements for my venture trucks. If you go hollow it will mesh more with the titanium weights I have listed.

The only trucks that matter.
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I'm looking for that hefty, stable, poppy feeling that many are describing with Ventures, so I may go with the raws. I'm riding miniramps a lot now so that's an added bonus.

Better yet, mix cast plates with hollow axles. Reduced weight while minimizing the WB shift.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on May 25, 2020, 10:19:29 PM
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depends. What are you shred ambitions? For me it’s tits/hollows/lights for flat/ledges/mellow sets. If I’m bombing or rollin tranny it’s raws all day. If you scroll up this thread I have some weight measurements for my venture trucks. If you go hollow it will mesh more with the titanium weights I have listed.

The only trucks that matter.
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I'm looking for that hefty, stable, poppy feeling that many are describing with Ventures, so I may go with the raws. I'm riding miniramps a lot now so that's an added bonus.
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Better yet, mix cast plates with hollow axles. Reduced weight while minimizing the WB shift.

that’s what I planned on doing. I wish they offered a truck with hollow cast baseplates...like the thunder team hollows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 26, 2020, 12:27:25 AM
The ace bushings in my Ventures still feel amazing but have started to bulge and deform a bit much with those flat washers with the stem. Will probably just run them until they start to feel off and either get a new set or go back to stock. All this talk about cast plates has got me wanting to try some, only ever skated the forged plates on ventures. Somewhat concerned that the extra height is going to be weird as I've only ever skated forged indys, and aces and thunders which are both a bit lower.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 26, 2020, 04:50:06 AM
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depends. What are you shred ambitions? For me it’s tits/hollows/lights for flat/ledges/mellow sets. If I’m bombing or rollin tranny it’s raws all day. If you scroll up this thread I have some weight measurements for my venture trucks. If you go hollow it will mesh more with the titanium weights I have listed.

The only trucks that matter.
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I'm looking for that hefty, stable, poppy feeling that many are describing with Ventures, so I may go with the raws. I'm riding miniramps a lot now so that's an added bonus.
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Better yet, mix cast plates with hollow axles. Reduced weight while minimizing the WB shift.
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that’s what I planned on doing. I wish they offered a truck with hollow cast baseplates...like the thunder team hollows.
Venture team hollows would be my perfect truck probably.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lorem_Ipsum on May 26, 2020, 09:55:05 AM
Just set up my first board with Ventures ever, and I feel like I'm a true believer now. The pop feels hefty and snappy, and it feels like the extra effort that I put in is definitely apparent when ollieing up/onto things. Currently riding them stock, slightly loosened. Was really pleasantly surprised to have most of my flip tricks back right away without having to go through too crazy of a break in period. Most people where I live are skeptical but I think it's safe to say I'm of the Indy train forever, and keeping all my shit in the DLX family feels like a good thing. Thanks for all the research and stuff!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Acky Jacky on May 26, 2020, 10:15:48 AM
I recently got a new Isle deck that's pretty flat and I was riding it with my Indy 149s which I've used on every deck except my cruiser (Thunder 149 with risers) for the past couple of years. For some reason the pop just wasn't feeling good. After having watched some Ben DeGros YouTube videos here and there and being curious about Venture I grabbed some standard 5.6's. They did the trick for giving my flat deck easier pop, I like the way they grind and the turn to me feels nice and secure.

I imagine the turning radius will be a little tighter once I break the trucks in more, as I like to ride mine on the looser side, but I'm happy with them so far. I'm curious how these trucks will feel on whatever my next board is, assuming it won't be as flat as this Isle.

Sorry that felt like a rant, I'm bored.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 26, 2020, 11:07:55 AM
Cry cry cry

Sunstroke but awake
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 26, 2020, 08:38:11 PM
Just set up my first board with Ventures ever, and I feel like I'm a true believer now. The pop feels hefty and snappy, and it feels like the extra effort that I put in is definitely apparent when ollieing up/onto things. Currently riding them stock, slightly loosened. Was really pleasantly surprised to have most of my flip tricks back right away without having to go through too crazy of a break in period. Most people where I live are skeptical but I think it's safe to say I'm of the Indy train forever, and keeping all my shit in the DLX family feels like a good thing. Thanks for all the research and stuff!

Forged plate Ventures work best on decks with shorter WB in my experience, best setup I had in recent memory was a 8 x 32 x 14 paired with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo. The deck was a few weeks in and a little soggy but going from Thunder to Venture immediately revived the board, everything felt snappy and the pinch was amazing. The deck gave out after a few more sessions but I've been trying to recreate that setup ever since with very limited success.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 411bandit on May 28, 2020, 01:49:59 PM
Just ordered a pair of the Bobby Worrest 5.2s for my Magenta Valls 7.875. WB is 14.25.

Can't fucking wait. I've been riding Indy 139s for awhile and my flip tricks feels off sometimes. Particularly tre flips.

One thing I'm wondering is smaller WB and lower trucks better for flip tricks ? Particularly tre flips.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lysdexia on May 28, 2020, 04:41:57 PM
shorter wb helps tre flips in a big way, lower trucks do too but the wb makes more of a difference i find
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 28, 2020, 07:05:38 PM
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Just set up my first board with Ventures ever, and I feel like I'm a true believer now. The pop feels hefty and snappy, and it feels like the extra effort that I put in is definitely apparent when ollieing up/onto things. Currently riding them stock, slightly loosened. Was really pleasantly surprised to have most of my flip tricks back right away without having to go through too crazy of a break in period. Most people where I live are skeptical but I think it's safe to say I'm of the Indy train forever, and keeping all my shit in the DLX family feels like a good thing. Thanks for all the research and stuff!
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Forged plate Ventures work best on decks with shorter WB in my experience, best setup I had in recent memory was a 8 x 32 x 14 paired with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo. The deck was a few weeks in and a little soggy but going from Thunder to Venture immediately revived the board, everything felt snappy and the pinch was amazing. The deck gave out after a few more sessions but I've been trying to recreate that setup ever since with very limited success.
did you try running the same shape again?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 28, 2020, 08:15:43 PM
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Just set up my first board with Ventures ever, and I feel like I'm a true believer now. The pop feels hefty and snappy, and it feels like the extra effort that I put in is definitely apparent when ollieing up/onto things. Currently riding them stock, slightly loosened. Was really pleasantly surprised to have most of my flip tricks back right away without having to go through too crazy of a break in period. Most people where I live are skeptical but I think it's safe to say I'm of the Indy train forever, and keeping all my shit in the DLX family feels like a good thing. Thanks for all the research and stuff!
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Forged plate Ventures work best on decks with shorter WB in my experience, best setup I had in recent memory was a 8 x 32 x 14 paired with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo. The deck was a few weeks in and a little soggy but going from Thunder to Venture immediately revived the board, everything felt snappy and the pinch was amazing. The deck gave out after a few more sessions but I've been trying to recreate that setup ever since with very limited success.
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did you try running the same shape again?

I would have, but I only had 1 of that board. It was a Folklore Fibertech Lite, which is an Australian board company. Got the board when I was there on holiday last year and shipping it to Asia would cost as much as the board itself. I used to travel to Australia pretty frequently for work and the plan was to pick up a a couple of boards every trip. But this virus and subsequent travel restrictions has put a damper on that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 411bandit on May 29, 2020, 08:13:52 AM
shorter wb helps tre flips in a big way, lower trucks do too but the wb makes more of a difference i find

Defo does. Just had my first flat ground sesh on these. Love them already. So much more stable. From the first pop shove I knew it was on. They turn pretty dam good for first session too. Does the worrest model have different bushings maybe? These are clear yellow.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 411bandit on May 30, 2020, 10:18:25 AM
For my next deck I'm cop the Mason Silva full SE. I reckon that will make these 5.2s really come alive.

It's 8.06 x 31.5 with 14 WB
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 30, 2020, 11:38:33 AM
For my next deck I'm cop the Mason Silva full SE. I reckon that will make these 5.2s really come alive.

It's 8.06 x 31.5 with 14 WB

I've had mixed success with short boards and Ventures, especially the forged plates. The tail became way too short and I could not get my board to snap against the ground. Discounting the fact it was a dwindle board, the setup just wasn't working for me at that length.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on May 30, 2020, 11:54:43 AM
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shorter wb helps tre flips in a big way, lower trucks do too but the wb makes more of a difference i find
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Defo does. Just had my first flat ground sesh on these. Love them already. So much more stable. From the first pop shove I knew it was on. They turn pretty dam good for first session too. Does the worrest model have different bushings maybe? These are clear yellow.
I just got 6.1 polished and they have clear yellow, my 5.8 worrest's had red. I'm fairly certain that they are all the same durometer if that helps any.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 30, 2020, 03:54:53 PM
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For my next deck I'm cop the Mason Silva full SE. I reckon that will make these 5.2s really come alive.

It's 8.06 x 31.5 with 14 WB
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I've had mixed success with short boards and Ventures, especially the forged plates. The tail became way too short and I could not get my board to snap against the ground. Discounting the fact it was a dwindle board, the setup just wasn't working for me at that length.
I was going to mention this, I love the 8 inch full se but I think the cast ventures are the absolute furthest I could push it with that short of a board. Thankfully the tail is a decent length for that deck length. I think it’s 6.5?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on June 01, 2020, 02:00:44 PM
(http://imgur.com/HsYXBBK.jpg)
Got a new hat today...Guaranteed to get laid tonight  ;D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 01, 2020, 02:07:55 PM
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For my next deck I'm cop the Mason Silva full SE. I reckon that will make these 5.2s really come alive.

It's 8.06 x 31.5 with 14 WB
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I've had mixed success with short boards and Ventures, especially the forged plates. The tail became way too short and I could not get my board to snap against the ground. Discounting the fact it was a dwindle board, the setup just wasn't working for me at that length.
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I was going to mention this, I love the 8 inch full se but I think the cast ventures are the absolute furthest I could push it with that short of a board. Thankfully the tail is a decent length for that deck length. I think it’s 6.5?

I wish they'd make the 8.18 Full SE again, but with a 14.25" WB (it's 14.38).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 411bandit on June 01, 2020, 05:19:31 PM
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For my next deck I'm cop the Mason Silva full SE. I reckon that will make these 5.2s really come alive.

It's 8.06 x 31.5 with 14 WB
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I've had mixed success with short boards and Ventures, especially the forged plates. The tail became way too short and I could not get my board to snap against the ground. Discounting the fact it was a dwindle board, the setup just wasn't working for me at that length.
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I was going to mention this, I love the 8 inch full se but I think the cast ventures are the absolute furthest I could push it with that short of a board. Thankfully the tail is a decent length for that deck length. I think it’s 6.5?
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I wish they'd make the 8.18 Full SE again, but with a 14.25" WB (it's 14.38).

I set them up on an old Ollie Todd Palace deck today.
 
Width 7.75”
Length 31.25”
Wheelbase 13.8”

They work so well. Kickflips and tre flips are a dream. I don't know what is affecting the difference from the megenta 14.25wb but they handle even better
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FleeceFlannel on June 01, 2020, 11:01:45 PM
Does anyone here ride their Ventures rattly loose?  If so, what bushing combination are you on?  I rode independents for a long time and always had a bones medium on the bottom and Indy low bushing on the top so I could keep them real loose without losing the kingpin nut but that combination doesn’t seem to work as well with Ventures.  I had a problem with the pivot cup being super tight too but fixed that by sanding out the pivot cups a bit. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 01, 2020, 11:44:14 PM
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For my next deck I'm cop the Mason Silva full SE. I reckon that will make these 5.2s really come alive.

It's 8.06 x 31.5 with 14 WB
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I've had mixed success with short boards and Ventures, especially the forged plates. The tail became way too short and I could not get my board to snap against the ground. Discounting the fact it was a dwindle board, the setup just wasn't working for me at that length.
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I was going to mention this, I love the 8 inch full se but I think the cast ventures are the absolute furthest I could push it with that short of a board. Thankfully the tail is a decent length for that deck length. I think it’s 6.5?
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I wish they'd make the 8.18 Full SE again, but with a 14.25" WB (it's 14.38).
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I set them up on an old Ollie Todd Palace deck today.
 
Width 7.75”
Length 31.25”
Wheelbase 13.8”

They work so well. Kickflips and tre flips are a dream. I don't know what is affecting the difference from the megenta 14.25wb but they handle even better

Wow that board is looking tiny, makes me miss my 7.5 days.

Does anyone here ride their Ventures rattly loose?  If so, what bushing combination are you on?  I rode independents for a long time and always had a bones medium on the bottom and Indy low bushing on the top so I could keep them real loose without losing the kingpin nut but that combination doesn’t seem to work as well with Ventures.  I had a problem with the pivot cup being super tight too but fixed that by sanding out the pivot cups a bit. 

I rode mine rattle loose and had them come apart while cruising down the street before. I think the stock bushings, they start out very hard but by the end of the 1st or 2nd session they soften enough where I could ride my trucks loose enough with the nut catching without worrying about the truck flying apart.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FleeceFlannel on June 01, 2020, 11:54:53 PM
Appreciate it dude, I’m gonna give the stock bushings another session and see how they go.  Maybe sand down the top bushing a little bit and see if that gives me a little more room for rattling without messing up the geometry.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Skart on June 02, 2020, 12:18:35 AM
Anyone find boards they like on 6.1's?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on June 02, 2020, 06:12:38 AM
Anyone find boards they like on 6.1's?
Villani shape on 9.125 feels awesome.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 02, 2020, 06:43:53 AM
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Villani shape on 9.125 feels awesome.
into this and hearing more suggestions.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chappers on June 02, 2020, 08:43:30 AM
super tempted to cop some 5.2 hollow lows. had hollow thunder 147s a few years back and miss em, feel like id really get on with hollow ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tangar on June 02, 2020, 10:37:38 AM
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Villani shape on 9.125 feels awesome.
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into this and hearing more suggestions.
8.5 FA
8.5 Alien Workshop
Anti Hero Brown bomber
All on 6.1s in my quiver at the moment
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wonderful Whizzplank on June 02, 2020, 01:54:01 PM
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Villani shape on 9.125 feels awesome.
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into this and hearing more suggestions.
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8.5 FA
8.5 Alien Workshop
Anti Hero Brown bomber
All on 6.1s in my quiver at the moment

Alien workshop 8.75 on 6.1s feels how I wanted it to feel on thunder 151s. Only one session in though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BL0B on June 02, 2020, 02:02:33 PM
Appreciate it dude, I’m gonna give the stock bushings another session and see how they go.  Maybe sand down the top bushing a little bit and see if that gives me a little more room for rattling without messing up the geometry.


you doing flat top washers? i'd try that or no top washer before i sanded anything.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 02, 2020, 02:08:55 PM
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Villani shape on 9.125 feels awesome.
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into this and hearing more suggestions.
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8.5 FA
8.5 Alien Workshop
Anti Hero Brown bomber
All on 6.1s in my quiver at the moment
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Alien workshop 8.75 on 6.1s feels how I wanted it to feel on thunder 151s. Only one session in though.
aws 8.75 x 32.25 has 14.25 wb?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FleeceFlannel on June 02, 2020, 02:21:25 PM
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Appreciate it dude, I’m gonna give the stock bushings another session and see how they go.  Maybe sand down the top bushing a little bit and see if that gives me a little more room for rattling without messing up the geometry.
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you doing flat top washers? i'd try that or no top washer before i sanded anything.

Finally got them pretty dialed in this afternoon.  I switched out the bottom bushing for a bones medium, sanded just a tiny bit off the stock top bushings and then switched the top washer for a bones washer.  The rounded washers would just bang up against the hanger.  It’ll take some getting used to but I feel a little more at home now.  Thank you though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 3OIF on June 02, 2020, 02:21:53 PM
Anybody know how dlx venture lows compare to the street corner venture lows?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wonderful Whizzplank on June 02, 2020, 03:02:58 PM
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Villani shape on 9.125 feels awesome.
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into this and hearing more suggestions.
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8.5 FA
8.5 Alien Workshop
Anti Hero Brown bomber
All on 6.1s in my quiver at the moment
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Alien workshop 8.75 on 6.1s feels how I wanted it to feel on thunder 151s. Only one session in though.
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aws 8.75 x 32.25 has 14.25 wb?

It does, feels like a sweet spot for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on June 02, 2020, 03:22:38 PM
i will second that^^^  32.25 length, 14.25 wb & ventures?  whoooh! 

currently rocking 5.8 cast baseplates, titanium hangers, riptide pivot cups & stock bushings w/ flat top washers.  love this setup
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on June 02, 2020, 05:48:44 PM
Anybody know how dlx venture lows compare to the street corner venture lows?

DLX are better.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 411bandit on June 03, 2020, 02:06:35 AM
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DLX are better.

Wait.. what's this ? I thought DLX owned venture?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chappers on June 03, 2020, 03:32:25 AM
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Anybody know how dlx venture lows compare to the street corner venture lows?
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DLX are better.
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Wait.. what's this ? I thought DLX owned venture?

they do now, they used to not
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 03, 2020, 07:02:30 AM
Going to grab the ti 5.6 this weekend. Haven’t been able to find the non prod ones though which is a little of a bummer since I generally don’t like any logos on my hangar. That being said I probably will be too lazy to remove it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on June 03, 2020, 07:49:40 AM
Going to grab the ti 5.6 this weekend. Haven’t been able to find the non prod ones though which is a little of a bummer since I generally don’t like any logos on my hangar. That being said I probably will be too lazy to remove it
plot twist....they don’t make 5.6 tits without the prod logo. Sorry bud
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 03, 2020, 08:15:50 AM
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Going to grab the ti 5.6 this weekend. Haven’t been able to find the non prod ones though which is a little of a bummer since I generally don’t like any logos on my hangar. That being said I probably will be too lazy to remove it
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plot twist....they don’t make 5.6 tits without the prod logo. Sorry bud
Well... that at least saves me time doing a deep look. Thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 03, 2020, 09:31:25 AM
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Going to grab the ti 5.6 this weekend. Haven’t been able to find the non prod ones though which is a little of a bummer since I generally don’t like any logos on my hangar. That being said I probably will be too lazy to remove it
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plot twist....they don’t make 5.6 tits without the prod logo. Sorry bud
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Well... that at least saves me time doing a deep look. Thanks

I own the 5.6 Prods, logo comes off with little effort (and FWIW, you can hardly see it). I used a bit of steel wool and elbow grease, came right off.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 03, 2020, 11:41:36 AM
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Going to grab the ti 5.6 this weekend. Haven’t been able to find the non prod ones though which is a little of a bummer since I generally don’t like any logos on my hangar. That being said I probably will be too lazy to remove it
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plot twist....they don’t make 5.6 tits without the prod logo. Sorry bud
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Well... that at least saves me time doing a deep look. Thanks
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I own the 5.6 Prods, logo comes off with little effort (and FWIW, you can hardly see it). I used a bit of steel wool and elbow grease, came right off.
Oh thanks, I’ll Deff see if it bothers me. As much as I hate new hangars I like the idea of dropping a little weight for these long summer sessions
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ghostrider on June 04, 2020, 12:19:37 PM
What do you guys think is the absolute biggest wheel rideable on a venture 5.2 low truck?
I usually go 52mm, is there a chance of wheelbite?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 04, 2020, 12:24:01 PM
What do you guys think is the absolute biggest wheel rideable on a venture 5.2 low truck?
I usually go 52mm, is there a chance of wheelbite?

There is a guarantee of wheelbite. I really like 5.2 lows, and I skate them with 52mm and down. Wheelbite for sure. Doable tho. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ghostrider on June 04, 2020, 12:44:28 PM
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I usually go 52mm, is there a chance of wheelbite?
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There is a guarantee of wheelbite. I really like 5.2 lows, and I skate them with 52mm and down. Wheelbite for sure. Doable tho.

OCD is getting through the roof. Not sure if i should do get the 5.2 (no 5.6 in local stores) lows, the his or just go with the thunder 148 which will be in the middle height wise instead.Thinking that the venture his will be too high which for me kind of kills the whole purpose of ventures which to me are associated with being low and stable.
I forgot to mention i skate medium-tight and had wheelbite issues even with 147hi thunders, was rare but still...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 04, 2020, 12:49:03 PM
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What do you guys think is the absolute biggest wheel rideable on a venture 5.2 low truck?
I usually go 52mm, is there a chance of wheelbite?
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There is a guarantee of wheelbite. I really like 5.2 lows, and I skate them with 52mm and down. Wheelbite for sure. Doable tho.
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OCD is getting through the roof. Not sure if i should do get the 5.2 (no 5.6 in local stores) lows, the his or just go with the thunder 148 which will be in the middle height wise instead.Thinking that the venture his will be too high which for me kind of kills the whole purpose of ventures which to me are associated with being low and stable.
I forgot to mention i skate medium-tight and had wheelbite issues even with 147hi thunders, was rare but still...
Wax those wheelbite spots.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: midtownatl on June 04, 2020, 01:30:03 PM
Ive been lurking this thread hard for a while and when it came time to set up this Welcome 8.25 deck I had to get some new Ventures. Haven’t ridden them since 5.0s in the mid-90s. Got the Venture x Thrasher 5.6. From what I can find these are the same as the 5.6 Hi’s. Putting on some Ricta 53 wides and Reds.

(https://i.ibb.co/gPJ91dQ/EC6-B9-A9-B-65-DF-4670-93-AC-1-DDB7-A7-C40-C3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CMQ8d64)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 04, 2020, 02:06:33 PM
Ive been lurking this thread hard for a while and when it came time to set up this Welcome 8.25 deck I had to get some new Ventures. Haven’t ridden them since 5.0s in the mid-90s. Got the Venture x Thrasher 5.6. From what I can find these are the same as the 5.6 Hi’s. Putting on some Ricta 53 wides and Reds.

(https://i.ibb.co/gPJ91dQ/EC6-B9-A9-B-65-DF-4670-93-AC-1-DDB7-A7-C40-C3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CMQ8d64)

Looks good! Ricta get too much hate around these forums.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: midtownatl on June 04, 2020, 03:24:58 PM
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Ive been lurking this thread hard for a while and when it came time to set up this Welcome 8.25 deck I had to get some new Ventures. Haven’t ridden them since 5.0s in the mid-90s. Got the Venture x Thrasher 5.6. From what I can find these are the same as the 5.6 Hi’s. Putting on some Ricta 53 wides and Reds.

(https://i.ibb.co/gPJ91dQ/EC6-B9-A9-B-65-DF-4670-93-AC-1-DDB7-A7-C40-C3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CMQ8d64)
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Looks good! Ricta get too much hate around these forums.

Thanks man! Really? I’m not a regular here. People I know irl who have them dig them. I really liked the clouds 86d that I have so I thought I would try their normal street wheels.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on June 04, 2020, 03:37:11 PM
Ordered some 5.6 from my local. Stoked to try them. Got some old F4 53 radials I’m gonna out on them. Kinda wish I got some new conicals or some STFs
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 04, 2020, 03:40:33 PM
Ordered some 5.6 from my local. Stoked to try them. Got some old F4 53 radials I’m gonna out on them. Kinda wish I got some new conicals or some STFs
Which 5.6 did you get? Just the raws?
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Post by: Murge on June 04, 2020, 03:52:53 PM
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Which 5.6 did you get? Just the raws?

Yeah the raw thrasher ones. Idk if I’ve ever had trucks with a graphic so I’m not sure how I’ll feel about it. But I’m stoked to try some ventures. And have a truck option for when I get boards around 8.25
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: midtownatl on June 04, 2020, 04:09:36 PM
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Yeah the raw thrasher ones. Idk if I’ve ever had trucks with a graphic so I’m not sure how I’ll feel about it. But I’m stoked to try some ventures. And have a truck option for when I get boards around 8.25

I just rode those same ones this afternoon. Mine aren’t broken in but I like the turn so far. Nice and high.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 04, 2020, 04:22:55 PM
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Yeah the raw thrasher ones. Idk if I’ve ever had trucks with a graphic so I’m not sure how I’ll feel about it. But I’m stoked to try some ventures. And have a truck option for when I get boards around 8.25
It’s a fine truck, actually fixed some issues I had with my skating.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on June 04, 2020, 10:31:44 PM
Ive been lurking this thread hard for a while and when it came time to set up this Welcome 8.25 deck I had to get some new Ventures. Haven’t ridden them since 5.0s in the mid-90s. Got the Venture x Thrasher 5.6. From what I can find these are the same as the 5.6 Hi’s. Putting on some Ricta 53 wides and Reds.

(https://i.ibb.co/gPJ91dQ/EC6-B9-A9-B-65-DF-4670-93-AC-1-DDB7-A7-C40-C3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CMQ8d64)
looks good here! Stoked everyone is fucking with the 5.6’s  :) best truck for me personally
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on June 05, 2020, 12:02:44 AM
what size boards are all you guys skating your 5.6s on? I skate 5.8s on 8.25-8.38s and dont have any complaints. Tried 5.2 and it felt off but wondering if 5.6 would improve leverage for flip tricks without sacrificing too much grind real estate or stability.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 05, 2020, 01:42:50 AM
what size boards are all you guys skating your 5.6s on? I skate 5.8s on 8.25-8.38s and dont have any complaints. Tried 5.2 and it felt off but wondering if 5.6 would improve leverage for flip tricks without sacrificing too much grind real estate or stability.
Personally 8-8.1 but that’s because I came from running 149/8.5 trucks on 8.2-8.3 and the jump down to a 8 inch truck was way too much for me

I will say that I just put on some radial slims and that thinner wheel makes the trucks and board look pretty flush

For 8.2/8.3 5.6 would be a great middle ground between axle space for grinds but still having leverage for flips.

I just ordered the 5.6 ti’s about 30 seconds ago haha.!
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Post by: j....soy..... on June 05, 2020, 06:07:10 AM
All trucks matter.....
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Post by: Charlie Hustle on June 05, 2020, 06:22:12 AM
All trucks matter.....
Sounds like something an Indy rider would say.
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Post by: Ok on June 05, 2020, 06:45:46 AM
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Sounds like something an Indy rider would say.

Haha true true
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 05, 2020, 06:47:08 AM
My trucks are saving my God damn life.

If I couldn't turn I'd be in county jail right now sucking covid.

No bail fund can save someone like me only loose trucks and big fucking wheels
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on June 05, 2020, 06:48:53 AM
what size boards are all you guys skating your 5.6s on? I skate 5.8s on 8.25-8.38s and dont have any complaints. Tried 5.2 and it felt off but wondering if 5.6 would improve leverage for flip tricks without sacrificing too much grind real estate or stability.

I’m gonna use them on 8.25 to 8.38 and gonna try with an 8.5. I’m kinda hoping I will love them and it will be like a universal truck to be honest
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ghostrider on June 05, 2020, 08:19:07 AM
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Ive been lurking this thread hard for a while and when it came time to set up this Welcome 8.25 deck I had to get some new Ventures. Haven’t ridden them since 5.0s in the mid-90s. Got the Venture x Thrasher 5.6. From what I can find these are the same as the 5.6 Hi’s. Putting on some Ricta 53 wides and Reds.

(https://i.ibb.co/gPJ91dQ/EC6-B9-A9-B-65-DF-4670-93-AC-1-DDB7-A7-C40-C3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CMQ8d64)
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looks good here! Stoked everyone is fucking with the 5.6’s  :) best truck for me personally

You riding hi or low? How are they compared to indy and thunder?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: midtownatl on June 05, 2020, 06:43:03 PM
what size boards are all you guys skating your 5.6s on? I skate 5.8s on 8.25-8.38s and dont have any complaints. Tried 5.2 and it felt off but wondering if 5.6 would improve leverage for flip tricks without sacrificing too much grind real estate or stability.

Fit pretty great on 8.25. I think you could run them 8.125 to 8.3ish. I haven’t measured yet but they seem a little short of a full 8.25”
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: midtownatl on June 05, 2020, 06:45:54 PM
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Ive been lurking this thread hard for a while and when it came time to set up this Welcome 8.25 deck I had to get some new Ventures. Haven’t ridden them since 5.0s in the mid-90s. Got the Venture x Thrasher 5.6. From what I can find these are the same as the 5.6 Hi’s. Putting on some Ricta 53 wides and Reds.

(https://i.ibb.co/gPJ91dQ/EC6-B9-A9-B-65-DF-4670-93-AC-1-DDB7-A7-C40-C3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CMQ8d64)
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looks good here! Stoked everyone is fucking with the 5.6’s  :) best truck for me personally
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You riding hi or low? How are they compared to indy and thunder?

The venture x thrashers don’t specify. But based on what I can tell it’s the same as a 5.6 Hi plus a graphic. I been riding thunder lows (lol) mostly lately and just got a pair of 159s for a diff setup but these feel super good so far imo.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 05, 2020, 09:17:01 PM
Crazy for running 56mm conical fulls with 6.1? Got supercush 97a in them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 05, 2020, 09:29:54 PM
Crazy for running 56mm conical fulls with 6.1? Got supercush 97a in them

Got some slightly worn 56mm conical fulls on 5.2s, which are the same height. Definitely works, but is pretty maxed out.
Some smart poster once showed how effective risers were for larger wheels. 1/8” riser is something like 3mm I think. That’d be getting up there tho. Bones used to have (maybe still does) 1/16” riser, and that’d be real decent imo.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on June 05, 2020, 09:31:54 PM
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what size boards are all you guys skating your 5.6s on? I skate 5.8s on 8.25-8.38s and dont have any complaints. Tried 5.2 and it felt off but wondering if 5.6 would improve leverage for flip tricks without sacrificing too much grind real estate or stability.
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I’m gonna use them on 8.25 to 8.38 and gonna try with an 8.5. I’m kinda hoping I will love them and it will be like a universal truck to be honest


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what size boards are all you guys skating your 5.6s on? I skate 5.8s on 8.25-8.38s and dont have any complaints. Tried 5.2 and it felt off but wondering if 5.6 would improve leverage for flip tricks without sacrificing too much grind real estate or stability.
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Personally 8-8.1 but that’s because I came from running 149/8.5 trucks on 8.2-8.3 and the jump down to a 8 inch truck was way too much for me

I will say that I just put on some radial slims and that thinner wheel makes the trucks and board look pretty flush

For 8.2/8.3 5.6 would be a great middle ground between axle space for grinds but still having leverage for flips.

I just ordered the 5.6 ti’s about 30 seconds ago haha.!

I see, thanks for the input. I definitely don't think I'm going back up to 8.5 anytime soon, and anything under 8.25 is too small. Though for the last 5 years or so I've only skated 8.5 inch trucks beside some verryyyy brief stints (venture 5.2 and ace 55) so I think I'm really used to the width, but given this size down 5.6 could be a welcome change. Maybe... maybe not.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 05, 2020, 09:43:52 PM
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Got some slightly worn 56mm conical fulls on 5.2s, which are the same height. Definitely works, but is pretty maxed out.
Some smart poster once showed how effective risers were for larger wheels. 1/8” riser is something like 3mm I think. That’d be getting up there tho. Bones used to have (maybe still does) 1/16” riser, and that’d be real decent imo.

ok thanks. Got the harder bushings in to run them not too tight, but still firmer, and want to run 56mm to maximize riding surface width for crust. Have 54mm conical full too but figured start and end with 56 and let em wear down. Thoughts
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: passtheish on June 05, 2020, 11:14:35 PM
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Anyone find boards they like on 6.1's?
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Villani shape on 9.125 feels awesome.
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into this and hearing more suggestions.
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8.5 FA
8.5 Alien Workshop
Anti Hero Brown bomber
All on 6.1s in my quiver at the moment
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Alien workshop 8.75 on 6.1s feels how I wanted it to feel on thunder 151s. Only one session in though.

I got 6.1s on a Hockey 8.5 great sessions so far
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 06, 2020, 03:13:45 AM
Has anyone who has ran both the forged and cast give me an idea on any feel difference while skating them? Got some ti’s coming and planned on just putting the hangars on cast plates but sorta am curious about a slightly lower truck but don’t want to take the wheelbase hit. Any comparison is welcomed
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 06, 2020, 05:09:31 AM
Has anyone who has ran both the forged and cast give me an idea on any feel difference while skating them? Got some ti’s coming and planned on just putting the hangars on cast plates but sorta am curious about a slightly lower truck but don’t want to take the wheelbase hit. Any comparison is welcomed

Definitely worth the hassle to swap the baseplates to shorten the WB. I did the opposite and ran a Primitive 8.25 x 31.875 x 14 with a 5.8 hanger plus forged baseplate. Liked that setup for ledge tricks but the added width and truck weight took some getting used too after skating 8.0 decks and smaller trucks. I plan to do that for my post-lockdown setup, if i can decide on what board to ride and the parks reopen.

I've thought about buying a cheap pair of cast Ventures just for the baseplate but decided it would not be worth the $25 since my skate output has dropped because of lockdown.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FleeceFlannel on June 06, 2020, 07:49:08 AM
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Crazy for running 56mm conical fulls with 6.1? Got supercush 97a in them
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Got some slightly worn 56mm conical fulls on 5.2s, which are the same height. Definitely works, but is pretty maxed out.
Some smart poster once showed how effective risers were for larger wheels. 1/8” riser is something like 3mm I think. That’d be getting up there tho. Bones used to have (maybe still does) 1/16” riser, and that’d be real decent imo.

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ok thanks. Got the harder bushings in to run them not too tight, but still firmer, and want to run 56mm to maximize riding surface width for crust. Have 54mm conical full too but figured start and end with 56 and let em wear down. Thoughts

I run 5.8s that are so loose they shake freely on an 8.3 with 58 mm classics so surely you’ll be fine.  I do have wheel wells but with how loose my trucks are I’d bet you’d have plenty of clearance.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 06, 2020, 08:18:51 AM
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Crazy for running 56mm conical fulls with 6.1? Got supercush 97a in them
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Got some slightly worn 56mm conical fulls on 5.2s, which are the same height. Definitely works, but is pretty maxed out.
Some smart poster once showed how effective risers were for larger wheels. 1/8” riser is something like 3mm I think. That’d be getting up there tho. Bones used to have (maybe still does) 1/16” riser, and that’d be real decent imo.

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ok thanks. Got the harder bushings in to run them not too tight, but still firmer, and want to run 56mm to maximize riding surface width for crust. Have 54mm conical full too but figured start and end with 56 and let em wear down. Thoughts
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I run 5.8s that are so loose they shake freely on an 8.3 with 58 mm classics so surely you’ll be fine.  I do have wheel wells but with how loose my trucks are I’d bet you’d have plenty of clearance.
solid. Classic shape + wheel wheels giving you more room for error though too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FleeceFlannel on June 06, 2020, 08:26:29 AM
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Crazy for running 56mm conical fulls with 6.1? Got supercush 97a in them
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Got some slightly worn 56mm conical fulls on 5.2s, which are the same height. Definitely works, but is pretty maxed out.
Some smart poster once showed how effective risers were for larger wheels. 1/8” riser is something like 3mm I think. That’d be getting up there tho. Bones used to have (maybe still does) 1/16” riser, and that’d be real decent imo.

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ok thanks. Got the harder bushings in to run them not too tight, but still firmer, and want to run 56mm to maximize riding surface width for crust. Have 54mm conical full too but figured start and end with 56 and let em wear down. Thoughts
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I run 5.8s that are so loose they shake freely on an 8.3 with 58 mm classics so surely you’ll be fine.  I do have wheel wells but with how loose my trucks are I’d bet you’d have plenty of clearance.
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solid. Classic shape + wheel wheels giving you more room for error though too.

For sure! But I just figure if I can go that big on wheels and that loose on trucks you’d be chillin with your setup.  Hope it works for you dude!  I’ve never ridden ventures in the 20 something years of skating until recently and I’m really stoked on them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on June 06, 2020, 08:55:16 AM
So far I’ve had 2 short 20-30 minute sessions on the 5.6 raws. I fully buy into the hype. Coming off indys. They don’t feel much different. Except more stable. I also feel my board flips better but that may be coming from Ti 149s to 5.6s ? I don’t get the hate on the turning mine was so loose I had to tighten them. I’m a bigger guy and was on bones hardcore. So that may be it but I def have 2 or 3 threads exposed now. But I love the turn. I feel kinda surfy on them which I wouldn’t expect.
I’m running  it in 8.25 aws visitor. I think 14.25 wheel base and f4 radials. But legit love the ventures. Bout to set up an AH with the eagle that is 8.28 14.12 wheelbase. I chipped the hell out of the nose today. But I’m loving them.

Do the bushings stiffen up? I’m worried I should left them alone a bit and seen what happens.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on June 06, 2020, 10:12:01 AM
Has anyone who has ran both the forged and cast give me an idea on any feel difference while skating them? Got some ti’s coming and planned on just putting the hangars on cast plates but sorta am curious about a slightly lower truck but don’t want to take the wheelbase hit. Any comparison is welcomed
I skate both: I have Worrest V-Lights 5.8 on my 8.5 popsicle and Kader 6.1 cast on my Franky football 9.125 shape.
The cast ones feel nicer for whatever reason to me, forged ones are also really good too. You can't go wrong with any of them but if I have to choose probably I would go for cast
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on June 06, 2020, 10:47:25 AM
So far I’ve had 2 short 20-30 minute sessions on the 5.6 raws. I fully buy into the hype. Coming off indys. They don’t feel much different. Except more stable. I also feel my board flips better but that may be coming from Ti 149s to 5.6s ? I don’t get the hate on the turning mine was so loose I had to tighten them. I’m a bigger guy and was on bones hardcore. So that may be it but I def have 2 or 3 threads exposed now. But I love the turn. I feel kinda surfy on them which I wouldn’t expect.
I’m running  it in 8.25 aws visitor. I think 14.25 wheel base and f4 radials. But legit love the ventures. Bout to set up an AH with the eagle that is 8.28 14.12 wheelbase. I chipped the hell out of the nose today. But I’m loving them.

Do the bushings stiffen up? I’m worried I should left them alone a bit and seen what happens.

I got my first pair of Venture 5.6 Hi. I feel the same with the bolded parts. I don't feel the explosive pop Venture is said to have? Either this is only something the lows have, or I just still need to get used to the trucks (coming from Ace/Indy).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Junglist on June 06, 2020, 01:06:52 PM
I love my 5.6 raws so much, probably my favorite truck I’ve skated, but I want something to go with an 8 and to keep it a bit more street than my all around setup. Should I go raw 5.2 lo or 5.2 forged? Personally I don’t care about weight.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on June 06, 2020, 01:39:22 PM
I love my 5.6 raws so much, probably my favorite truck I’ve skated, but I want something to go with an 8 and to keep it a bit more street than my all around setup. Should I go raw 5.2 lo or 5.2 forged? Personally I don’t care about weight.
i would say depends on the wheels you run
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on June 06, 2020, 02:26:20 PM
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So far I’ve had 2 short 20-30 minute sessions on the 5.6 raws. I fully buy into the hype. Coming off indys. They don’t feel much different. Except more stable. I also feel my board flips better but that may be coming from Ti 149s to 5.6s ? I don’t get the hate on the turning mine was so loose I had to tighten them. I’m a bigger guy and was on bones hardcore. So that may be it but I def have 2 or 3 threads exposed now. But I love the turn. I feel kinda surfy on them which I wouldn’t expect.
I’m running  it in 8.25 aws visitor. I think 14.25 wheel base and f4 radials. But legit love the ventures. Bout to set up an AH with the eagle that is 8.28 14.12 wheelbase. I chipped the hell out of the nose today. But I’m loving them.

Do the bushings stiffen up? I’m worried I should left them alone a bit and seen what happens.
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I got my first pair of Venture 5.6 Hi. I feel the same with the bolded parts. I don't feel the explosive pop Venture is said to have? Either this is only something the lows have, or I just still need to get used to the trucks (coming from Ace/Indy).
I really think you will when you find the right board. I was under the impression that more flat before the nose/tail increases the good pop, but I just threw my 5.8s on an old board with no flat and steep kicks and it was so good. Or maybe it really doesn't matter and I just had a good day (unlikely)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 06, 2020, 02:40:56 PM
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So far I’ve had 2 short 20-30 minute sessions on the 5.6 raws. I fully buy into the hype. Coming off indys. They don’t feel much different. Except more stable. I also feel my board flips better but that may be coming from Ti 149s to 5.6s ? I don’t get the hate on the turning mine was so loose I had to tighten them. I’m a bigger guy and was on bones hardcore. So that may be it but I def have 2 or 3 threads exposed now. But I love the turn. I feel kinda surfy on them which I wouldn’t expect.
I’m running  it in 8.25 aws visitor. I think 14.25 wheel base and f4 radials. But legit love the ventures. Bout to set up an AH with the eagle that is 8.28 14.12 wheelbase. I chipped the hell out of the nose today. But I’m loving them.

Do the bushings stiffen up? I’m worried I should left them alone a bit and seen what happens.
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I got my first pair of Venture 5.6 Hi. I feel the same with the bolded parts. I don't feel the explosive pop Venture is said to have? Either this is only something the lows have, or I just still need to get used to the trucks (coming from Ace/Indy).
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I really think you will when you find the right board. I was under the impression that more flat before the nose/tail increases the good pop, but I just threw my 5.8s on an old board with no flat and steep kicks and it was so good. Or maybe it really doesn't matter and I just had a good day (unlikely)

Steep kicks has always produced great pop for me (showing my age here, but probably because I skated H-Street boards almost excursively during that era); that's why I like Dwindle boards so much. Steep, stiff and crispy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on June 06, 2020, 04:10:51 PM
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So far I’ve had 2 short 20-30 minute sessions on the 5.6 raws. I fully buy into the hype. Coming off indys. They don’t feel much different. Except more stable. I also feel my board flips better but that may be coming from Ti 149s to 5.6s ? I don’t get the hate on the turning mine was so loose I had to tighten them. I’m a bigger guy and was on bones hardcore. So that may be it but I def have 2 or 3 threads exposed now. But I love the turn. I feel kinda surfy on them which I wouldn’t expect.
I’m running  it in 8.25 aws visitor. I think 14.25 wheel base and f4 radials. But legit love the ventures. Bout to set up an AH with the eagle that is 8.28 14.12 wheelbase. I chipped the hell out of the nose today. But I’m loving them.

Do the bushings stiffen up? I’m worried I should left them alone a bit and seen what happens.
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I got my first pair of Venture 5.6 Hi. I feel the same with the bolded parts. I don't feel the explosive pop Venture is said to have? Either this is only something the lows have, or I just still need to get used to the trucks (coming from Ace/Indy).
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I really think you will when you find the right board. I was under the impression that more flat before the nose/tail increases the good pop, but I just threw my 5.8s on an old board with no flat and steep kicks and it was so good. Or maybe it really doesn't matter and I just had a good day (unlikely)
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Steep kicks has always produced great pop for me (showing my age here, but probably because I skated H-Street boards almost excursively during that era); that's why I like Dwindle boards so much. Steep, stiff and crispy.
I'm pretty sure I'm around the same age so I understand exactly what your talking about with the old H-Street boards. I don't know what companies use Dwindle nowadays but I will definitely look into them in the future.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 08, 2020, 12:29:59 PM
First board I ran my 5.6s was the green krooked 8.5 with a 55 cclassic . I was using ace 44s with 56 conical fulls same deck before that. But I had to get used to it asap 

Massive change in wheel base and turn but it worked with a top bushing swap.

As long as you keep the stock barrels you can run both trucks very loose with big wheels magic carpet.
I did add a riser to the ace set up. With a classic shape at 56 I think it wouldn't be needed.

I'm gonna get 58s next on my ventures I hope. 101a radial would be the shit in a 58
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 08, 2020, 12:32:49 PM
First board I ran my 5.6s was the green krooked 8.5 with a 55 cclassic . I was using ace 44s with 56 conical fulls same deck before that. But I had to get used to it asap 

Massive change in wheel base and turn but it worked with a top bushing swap.

As long as you keep the stock barrels you can run both trucks very loose with big wheels magic carpet.
I did add a riser to the ace set up. With a classic shape at 56 I think it wouldn't be needed.

I'm gonna get 58s next on my ventures I hope. 101a radial would be the shit in a 58


My switch tre dreams on hold. Had to settle for regs. Struggling
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 08, 2020, 12:52:29 PM
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First board I ran my 5.6s was the green krooked 8.5 with a 55 cclassic . I was using ace 44s with 56 conical fulls same deck before that. But I had to get used to it asap 

Massive change in wheel base and turn but it worked with a top bushing swap.

As long as you keep the stock barrels you can run both trucks very loose with big wheels magic carpet.
I did add a riser to the ace set up. With a classic shape at 56 I think it wouldn't be needed.

I'm gonna get 58s next on my ventures I hope. 101a radial would be the shit in a 58
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My switch tre dreams on hold. Had to settle for regs. Struggling
word up

Word up. I got to focus more on regular Tre again lol. I also want higher speed switch Ollies. That's the focus of the summer.

I'm on a mission for speed and Im going to master laybacks this fall. Switch Tre by new years?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 08, 2020, 01:09:58 PM
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First board I ran my 5.6s was the green krooked 8.5 with a 55 cclassic . I was using ace 44s with 56 conical fulls same deck before that. But I had to get used to it asap 

Massive change in wheel base and turn but it worked with a top bushing swap.

As long as you keep the stock barrels you can run both trucks very loose with big wheels magic carpet.
I did add a riser to the ace set up. With a classic shape at 56 I think it wouldn't be needed.

I'm gonna get 58s next on my ventures I hope. 101a radial would be the shit in a 58
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My switch tre dreams on hold. Had to settle for regs. Struggling
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word up

Word up. I got to focus more on regular Tre again lol. I also want higher speed switch Ollies. That's the focus of the summer.

I'm on a mission for speed and Im going to master laybacks this fall. Switch Tre by new years?

Switch tre by New Years confirmed.
I’m highly backing the higher speed aspect. I’ve always been a low speed whittler, but it’s getting worse. My one good slam the other day was from what up until that moment felt like a good switch ollie to wheelbite.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 08, 2020, 06:52:29 PM
Just set up the 5.6 ti with my cast plates and I noticed the weight difference more than I thought I would. Cast plate ti axel might be the perfect venture, I felt the difference on flip tricks for sure. Very stoked on the combo
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Post by: Ok on June 08, 2020, 07:06:44 PM
Just set up the 5.6 ti with my cast plates and I noticed the weight difference more than I thought I would. Cast plate ti axel might be the perfect venture, I felt the difference on flip tricks for sure. Very stoked on the combo

Goddamn it
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Post by: Esmith5488 on June 08, 2020, 07:23:01 PM
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Just set up the 5.6 ti with my cast plates and I noticed the weight difference more than I thought I would. Cast plate ti axel might be the perfect venture, I felt the difference on flip tricks for sure. Very stoked on the combo
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Goddamn it
Should add it’s on a 8.1 primitive.. just to add to the temptation for you
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 08, 2020, 07:24:38 PM
Just set up the 5.6 ti with my cast plates and I noticed the weight difference more than I thought I would. Cast plate ti axel might be the perfect venture, I felt the difference on flip tricks for sure. Very stoked on the combo

Glad that worked out for you. I got a 5.8 Ti and 5.6 V-Hollow, swapping the baseplates out in future setups.

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Goddamn it
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Should add it’s on a 8.1 primitive.. just to add to the temptation for you

What are the dimensions on that 8.1? Primitive locked their website behind a registration wall, I can't access it from overseas.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 08, 2020, 07:26:20 PM
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Just set up the 5.6 ti with my cast plates and I noticed the weight difference more than I thought I would. Cast plate ti axel might be the perfect venture, I felt the difference on flip tricks for sure. Very stoked on the combo
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Glad that worked out for you. I got a 5.8 Ti and 5.6 V-Hollow, swapping the baseplates out in future setups.

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Just set up the 5.6 ti with my cast plates and I noticed the weight difference more than I thought I would. Cast plate ti axel might be the perfect venture, I felt the difference on flip tricks for sure. Very stoked on the combo
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Goddamn it
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Should add it’s on a 8.1 primitive.. just to add to the temptation for you
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What are the dimensions on that 8.1? Primitive locked their website behind a registration wall, I can't access it from overseas.
Damn that’s whack.
8.1x 31.7x 14.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 08, 2020, 08:11:19 PM
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So far I’ve had 2 short 20-30 minute sessions on the 5.6 raws. I fully buy into the hype. Coming off indys. They don’t feel much different. Except more stable. I also feel my board flips better but that may be coming from Ti 149s to 5.6s ? I don’t get the hate on the turning mine was so loose I had to tighten them. I’m a bigger guy and was on bones hardcore. So that may be it but I def have 2 or 3 threads exposed now. But I love the turn. I feel kinda surfy on them which I wouldn’t expect.
I’m running  it in 8.25 aws visitor. I think 14.25 wheel base and f4 radials. But legit love the ventures. Bout to set up an AH with the eagle that is 8.28 14.12 wheelbase. I chipped the hell out of the nose today. But I’m loving them.

Do the bushings stiffen up? I’m worried I should left them alone a bit and seen what happens.
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I got my first pair of Venture 5.6 Hi. I feel the same with the bolded parts. I don't feel the explosive pop Venture is said to have? Either this is only something the lows have, or I just still need to get used to the trucks (coming from Ace/Indy).
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I really think you will when you find the right board. I was under the impression that more flat before the nose/tail increases the good pop, but I just threw my 5.8s on an old board with no flat and steep kicks and it was so good. Or maybe it really doesn't matter and I just had a good day (unlikely)
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Steep kicks has always produced great pop for me (showing my age here, but probably because I skated H-Street boards almost excursively during that era); that's why I like Dwindle boards so much. Steep, stiff and crispy.
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I'm pretty sure I'm around the same age so I understand exactly what your talking about with the old H-Street boards. I don't know what companies use Dwindle nowadays but I will definitely look into them in the future.

Outside of in-house brands (Blind, Almost, Darkstar and Enjoi), there's Palace and NHS SC/Creatures (rumor has it Zero sometimes still as well); thing is SC/Creature does their own shit under Dwindle and doesn't use the Dwindle molds or shapes.

I just picked up a palace board (didn't know they were Dwindle) but knew it right away, steep kicks, stiff and crispy.

https://dwindle.com/catalogs

It used to be that you had to sort through the brands to find what you wanted. Steep Kicks' and 'Full Concave' were usually only found in Blind and Darkstar drops, occasionally you'd find them in Enjoi. Nowadays, it's either 'Mellow Concave' or 'Full Concave" for the previous brands and I've no clue if they're all steep kicks or if mellow is mellow and Full is full all around when it comes to kicks and 'cave.

However, Madness is the oddball now as they use various combos of medium concave, mellow concave, mellow kicks or steep kicks in their recent drop.

For me it was finding the: Impact lights, FULL Shape, Steep Kicks and FULL Concave; I'm still sitting on an 8.3 (on ice) that matches all of those requirements lol.  It's like waiting for REAL to do a slick, Low-Pro II twin-tail SE...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
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So far I’ve had 2 short 20-30 minute sessions on the 5.6 raws. I fully buy into the hype. Coming off indys. They don’t feel much different. Except more stable. I also feel my board flips better but that may be coming from Ti 149s to 5.6s ? I don’t get the hate on the turning mine was so loose I had to tighten them. I’m a bigger guy and was on bones hardcore. So that may be it but I def have 2 or 3 threads exposed now. But I love the turn. I feel kinda surfy on them which I wouldn’t expect.
I’m running  it in 8.25 aws visitor. I think 14.25 wheel base and f4 radials. But legit love the ventures. Bout to set up an AH with the eagle that is 8.28 14.12 wheelbase. I chipped the hell out of the nose today. But I’m loving them.

Do the bushings stiffen up? I’m worried I should left them alone a bit and seen what happens.
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I got my first pair of Venture 5.6 Hi. I feel the same with the bolded parts. I don't feel the explosive pop Venture is said to have? Either this is only something the lows have, or I just still need to get used to the trucks (coming from Ace/Indy).
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I really think you will when you find the right board. I was under the impression that more flat before the nose/tail increases the good pop, but I just threw my 5.8s on an old board with no flat and steep kicks and it was so good. Or maybe it really doesn't matter and I just had a good day (unlikely)
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Steep kicks has always produced great pop for me (showing my age here, but probably because I skated H-Street boards almost excursively during that era); that's why I like Dwindle boards so much. Steep, stiff and crispy.
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I'm pretty sure I'm around the same age so I understand exactly what your talking about with the old H-Street boards. I don't know what companies use Dwindle nowadays but I will definitely look into them in the future.
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For me it was finding the: Impact lights, FULL Shape, Steep Kicks and FULL Concave; I'm still sitting on an 8.3 (on ice) that matches all of those requirements lol.  It's like waiting for REAL to do a slick, Low-Pro II twin-tail SE...

Why the love for Dwindle? Last Darkstar I rode a few months ago felt pretty horrible, maybe the dimensions were too tiny for me at 8 x 31.5 x 14. It was regular logo board, so the quality could have been slightly worse.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 411bandit on June 09, 2020, 02:17:59 AM
I'm skating an old Palace on my 5.2 lows and it's amazing. I never thought I'd love dwindle wood so much. It's an amazing combo. I know this size ain't for everybody but it's spot on with the ventures.

 Width 7.75”
Length 31.25”
Wheelbase 13.8
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Battery Aziz on June 09, 2020, 09:25:20 AM
Wanting to give Ventures another shot but cannot find the 5.2 hi polished hollow axle/kingpin with the purple bushings for the life of me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on June 09, 2020, 06:02:13 PM
I religiously ride the 32x8.25 DLX shape with a 14.38 WB (II and III are my faves. IV is a tad too flat, I is a tad too steep). 144 Indy ti, and 53mm Spit Classics.

I hate everything NHS and have wanted to get off Indy for years, but have yet to find another truck that I really like.

Aces do turn great, but they are heavy as fuck, and the shorter wheel base really makes my feet feel too cramped/less stable, esp on any 1-truck grind (5-0, nose grinds, Smith, etc). Ollies feel like I am loosing power, as if swinging a baseball bat while holding the middle of bat rather than the end. 

Thunders have a much slower/sluggish turn. The longer wheelbase is noticeable on flip tricks/more effort, but this is somewhat off-set by lighter weight. Lower height makes pop feel wonky. All of these issue I can somewhat deal with. My major sticking point with Thunders is that inane wheel/baseplate clearance issue. I don't want to be forced to use turbostupid amounts of wax on a ledge to get a decent nose/tail slide without the wheels sticking.

So...I'm thinking of revisiting Ventures. It's been a minute. After reading everything in this thread, I'm thinking about 5.6 cast. I don't want to go too crazy with extending the wheelbase (e.g. forged, but lighter would be nice).

Has anyone gone from a 14.38 with Indys to Ventures? if so, what were your thoughts? I didn't seem to see anyone mention that specific scenario in the previous 20+ pages of this thread.   
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on June 09, 2020, 06:06:25 PM
Wanting to give Ventures another shot but cannot find the 5.2 hi polished hollow axle/kingpin with the purple bushings for the life of me.
not what you asked for but a good alternative


https://libraryskateshop.com/products/venture-v-light-trucks?_pos=6&_sid=341aa6005&_ss=r
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on June 09, 2020, 06:08:11 PM
I religiously ride the 32x8.25 DLX shape with a 14.38 WB (II and III are my faves. IV is a tad too flat, I is a tad too steep). 144 Indy ti, and 53mm Spit Classics.

I hate everything NHS and have wanted to get off Indy for years, but have yet to find another truck that I really like.

Aces do turn great, but they are heavy as fuck, and the shorter wheel base really makes my feet feel too cramped/less stable, esp on any 1-truck grind (5-0, nose grinds, Smith, etc). Ollies feel like I am loosing power, as if swinging a baseball bat while holding the middle of bat rather than the end. 

Thunders have a much slower/sluggish turn. The longer wheelbase is noticeable on flip tricks/more effort, but this is somewhat off-set by lighter weight. Lower height makes pop feel wonky. All of these issue I can somewhat deal with. My major sticking point with Thunders is that inane wheel/baseplate clearance issue. I don't want to be forced to use turbostupid amounts of wax on a ledge to get a decent nose/tail slide without the wheels sticking.

So...I'm thinking of revisiting Ventures. It's been a minute. After reading everything in this thread, I'm thinking about 5.6 cast. I don't want to go too crazy with extending the wheelbase (e.g. forged, but lighter would be nice).

Has anyone gone from a 14.38 with Indys to Ventures? if so, what were your thoughts? I didn't seem to see anyone mention that specific scenario in the previous 20+ pages of this thread.

I went from Indy tis to Venture v-lights on a 32.125 x 14.5wb. It was a noticeable difference, doing stuff took more conscious effort and the pop felt heftier but resulted in good yield and was manageable for sure. Though I ended up still going down in length and wheelbase a bit to even it out. I'm happy on 14.25 wheelbase now for the most part.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on June 09, 2020, 06:22:08 PM
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I religiously ride the 32x8.25 DLX shape with a 14.38 WB (II and III are my faves. IV is a tad too flat, I is a tad too steep). 144 Indy ti, and 53mm Spit Classics.

I hate everything NHS and have wanted to get off Indy for years, but have yet to find another truck that I really like.

Aces do turn great, but they are heavy as fuck, and the shorter wheel base really makes my feet feel too cramped/less stable, esp on any 1-truck grind (5-0, nose grinds, Smith, etc). Ollies feel like I am loosing power, as if swinging a baseball bat while holding the middle of bat rather than the end. 

Thunders have a much slower/sluggish turn. The longer wheelbase is noticeable on flip tricks/more effort, but this is somewhat off-set by lighter weight. Lower height makes pop feel wonky. All of these issue I can somewhat deal with. My major sticking point with Thunders is that inane wheel/baseplate clearance issue. I don't want to be forced to use turbostupid amounts of wax on a ledge to get a decent nose/tail slide without the wheels sticking.

So...I'm thinking of revisiting Ventures. It's been a minute. After reading everything in this thread, I'm thinking about 5.6 cast. I don't want to go too crazy with extending the wheelbase (e.g. forged, but lighter would be nice).

Has anyone gone from a 14.38 with Indys to Ventures? if so, what were your thoughts? I didn't seem to see anyone mention that specific scenario in the previous 20+ pages of this thread.
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I went from Indy tis to Venture v-lights on a 32.125 x 14.5wb. It was a noticeable difference, doing stuff took more conscious effort and the pop felt heftier but resulted in good yield and was manageable for sure. Though I ended up still going down in length and wheelbase a bit to even it out. I'm happy on 14.25 wheelbase now for the most part.

Just curious, what was the 32.125 x 14.5 board? Polar?


Anyone running 5.0s? Have a pair thats probably 15 years old and I wanna show em love, not sure if 7.75 would magic carpet too hard.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on June 09, 2020, 06:25:19 PM
Tossing up switching from 44's to 5.8s on my new board, AH Brown Bomber 8.8 x 32 x 14.25.

How do you guys find them on transition? Any better or worse than say Indy or Ace? I've been so used to these two brands anything else is a scary change for me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: midtownatl on June 09, 2020, 06:31:27 PM
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So far I’ve had 2 short 20-30 minute sessions on the 5.6 raws. I fully buy into the hype. Coming off indys. They don’t feel much different. Except more stable. I also feel my board flips better but that may be coming from Ti 149s to 5.6s ? I don’t get the hate on the turning mine was so loose I had to tighten them. I’m a bigger guy and was on bones hardcore. So that may be it but I def have 2 or 3 threads exposed now. But I love the turn. I feel kinda surfy on them which I wouldn’t expect.
I’m running  it in 8.25 aws visitor. I think 14.25 wheel base and f4 radials. But legit love the ventures. Bout to set up an AH with the eagle that is 8.28 14.12 wheelbase. I chipped the hell out of the nose today. But I’m loving them.

Do the bushings stiffen up? I’m worried I should left them alone a bit and seen what happens.
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I got my first pair of Venture 5.6 Hi. I feel the same with the bolded parts. I don't feel the explosive pop Venture is said to have? Either this is only something the lows have, or I just still need to get used to the trucks (coming from Ace/Indy).
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I really think you will when you find the right board. I was under the impression that more flat before the nose/tail increases the good pop, but I just threw my 5.8s on an old board with no flat and steep kicks and it was so good. Or maybe it really doesn't matter and I just had a good day (unlikely)
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Steep kicks has always produced great pop for me (showing my age here, but probably because I skated H-Street boards almost excursively during that era); that's why I like Dwindle boards so much. Steep, stiff and crispy.
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I'm pretty sure I'm around the same age so I understand exactly what your talking about with the old H-Street boards. I don't know what companies use Dwindle nowadays but I will definitely look into them in the future.

I heard mixed things about DSM lately but the Madness brand (DSM) has some sick bigger shapes and I just got one in resin-7 it’s incredibly crisp and tight so far.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 09, 2020, 08:18:20 PM
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Just set up the 5.6 ti with my cast plates and I noticed the weight difference more than I thought I would. Cast plate ti axel might be the perfect venture, I felt the difference on flip tricks for sure. Very stoked on the combo
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Glad that worked out for you. I got a 5.8 Ti and 5.6 V-Hollow, swapping the baseplates out in future setups.

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Just set up the 5.6 ti with my cast plates and I noticed the weight difference more than I thought I would. Cast plate ti axel might be the perfect venture, I felt the difference on flip tricks for sure. Very stoked on the combo
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Goddamn it
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Should add it’s on a 8.1 primitive.. just to add to the temptation for you
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What are the dimensions on that 8.1? Primitive locked their website behind a registration wall, I can't access it from overseas.
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Damn that’s whack.
8.1x 31.7x 14.


Thanks for coming thru!
Last time I checked I thought their 8.1 was long, longer wb.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 09, 2020, 08:43:13 PM
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Just set up the 5.6 ti with my cast plates and I noticed the weight difference more than I thought I would. Cast plate ti axel might be the perfect venture, I felt the difference on flip tricks for sure. Very stoked on the combo
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Glad that worked out for you. I got a 5.8 Ti and 5.6 V-Hollow, swapping the baseplates out in future setups.

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Just set up the 5.6 ti with my cast plates and I noticed the weight difference more than I thought I would. Cast plate ti axel might be the perfect venture, I felt the difference on flip tricks for sure. Very stoked on the combo
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Goddamn it
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Should add it’s on a 8.1 primitive.. just to add to the temptation for you
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What are the dimensions on that 8.1? Primitive locked their website behind a registration wall, I can't access it from overseas.
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Damn that’s whack.
8.1x 31.7x 14.
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Thanks for coming thru!
Last time I checked I thought their 8.1 was long, longer wb.
Oh yeah it was, I was shocked too when the sticker in the shop had those dims. I think it used to be a 14.3 wheelbase or something. The 8 used to be bigger too
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on June 09, 2020, 08:44:13 PM
^unfortunately your gut feeling was right:
 it’s the 8.125 that has the 14 eb. The 8.1 has the 14.25 wb.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 09, 2020, 08:47:44 PM
Confusion reigns on the primitive stuff. Which is cool cuz I’m confused on whether I should buy one (I hear great things, and they sponsor some of my absolute faves). And they also do the shitty direct thing and shops I buy from, most likely won’t have their boards. But they also seem to be perfect for Ventures, and I like that. But they have some trife graphics. They do sponsor Wade tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 09, 2020, 08:52:34 PM
Confusion reigns on the primitive stuff. Which is cool cuz I’m confused on whether I should buy one (I hear great things, and they sponsor some of my absolute faves). And they also do the shitty direct thing and shops I buy from, most likely won’t have their boards. But they also seem to be perfect for Ventures, and I like that. But they have some trife graphics. They do sponsor Wade tho.
It is SO hard to find a acceptable primitive graphic
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 09, 2020, 09:04:01 PM
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Confusion reigns on the primitive stuff. Which is cool cuz I’m confused on whether I should buy one (I hear great things, and they sponsor some of my absolute faves). And they also do the shitty direct thing and shops I buy from, most likely won’t have their boards. But they also seem to be perfect for Ventures, and I like that. But they have some trife graphics. They do sponsor Wade tho.
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It is SO hard to find a acceptable primitive graphic

Yeah I mean, at this point I shouldn’t give a fuck. As long as it doesn’t have racist/sexist/‘phobic/hate shit, or the weird anime sexualized little girl thing, I’m good. I step out of the house and I like silly. I’m over 40. I look bits carrying a skateboard.
I actually have this super sick strangelove board rn, has the us vs them graphic. Rad graphic. Totally has a confederate flag, and a Klan looking character. People aren’t going to read the whole thing. So there I am, the old white guy with the gnarly shit on his board waiting in line.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 09, 2020, 09:45:06 PM
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Confusion reigns on the primitive stuff. Which is cool cuz I’m confused on whether I should buy one (I hear great things, and they sponsor some of my absolute faves). And they also do the shitty direct thing and shops I buy from, most likely won’t have their boards. But they also seem to be perfect for Ventures, and I like that. But they have some trife graphics. They do sponsor Wade tho.
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It is SO hard to find a acceptable primitive graphic
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Yeah I mean, at this point I shouldn’t give a fuck. As long as it doesn’t have racist/sexist/‘phobic/hate shit, or the weird anime sexualized little girl thing, I’m good. I step out of the house and I like silly. I’m over 40. I look bits carrying a skateboard.
I actually have this super sick strangelove board rn, has the us vs them graphic. Rad graphic. Totally has a confederate flag, and a Klan looking character. People aren’t going to read the whole thing. So there I am, the old white guy with the gnarly shit on his board waiting in line.

Are you folks state side required to join their mailing list using your mobile number just to enter the site? That shit is wack.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 09, 2020, 09:50:40 PM
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Confusion reigns on the primitive stuff. Which is cool cuz I’m confused on whether I should buy one (I hear great things, and they sponsor some of my absolute faves). And they also do the shitty direct thing and shops I buy from, most likely won’t have their boards. But they also seem to be perfect for Ventures, and I like that. But they have some trife graphics. They do sponsor Wade tho.
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It is SO hard to find a acceptable primitive graphic
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Yeah I mean, at this point I shouldn’t give a fuck. As long as it doesn’t have racist/sexist/‘phobic/hate shit, or the weird anime sexualized little girl thing, I’m good. I step out of the house and I like silly. I’m over 40. I look bits carrying a skateboard.
I actually have this super sick strangelove board rn, has the us vs them graphic. Rad graphic. Totally has a confederate flag, and a Klan looking character. People aren’t going to read the whole thing. So there I am, the old white guy with the gnarly shit on his board waiting in line.

I feel you. Over 40 and rolling into venice park with a shiny metallic DBZ McClung board ;) - Having forced myself to ride (2) Trent FuckingMcLung boards (with a tucker of the same shape on ice), that were metallic DBZ boards + and a fucking Naruto Prod deck, I'm over it, slide it off or a quick spray job and you're good. Shapes are too on point to worry about that shit.

No one really gives a shit if you can skate.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on June 09, 2020, 09:53:30 PM
Yup. Required to sign up with verification code steps and all that BS. And then they monitor your activity/ what you’ve viewed - just got an email from them asking, “was there a problem?” Bc I didn’t add to cart. Wtf

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Junglist on June 10, 2020, 12:04:31 AM
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I love my 5.6 raws so much, probably my favorite truck I’ve skated, but I want something to go with an 8 and to keep it a bit more street than my all around setup. Should I go raw 5.2 lo or 5.2 forged? Personally I don’t care about weight.
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i would say depends on the wheels you run
I would say my wheel choice would depend on which truck I was going to get.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 10, 2020, 12:39:50 AM
Yup. Required to sign up with verification code steps and all that BS. And then they monitor your activity/ what you’ve viewed - just got an email from them asking, “was there a problem?” Bc I didn’t add to cart. Wtf

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/21ac056ea2051b5057028f968c63e4c1/tenor.gif?itemid=10216815)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 10, 2020, 04:45:30 AM
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Confusion reigns on the primitive stuff. Which is cool cuz I’m confused on whether I should buy one (I hear great things, and they sponsor some of my absolute faves). And they also do the shitty direct thing and shops I buy from, most likely won’t have their boards. But they also seem to be perfect for Ventures, and I like that. But they have some trife graphics. They do sponsor Wade tho.
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It is SO hard to find a acceptable primitive graphic
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Yeah I mean, at this point I shouldn’t give a fuck. As long as it doesn’t have racist/sexist/‘phobic/hate shit, or the weird anime sexualized little girl thing, I’m good. I step out of the house and I like silly. I’m over 40. I look bits carrying a skateboard.
I actually have this super sick strangelove board rn, has the us vs them graphic. Rad graphic. Totally has a confederate flag, and a Klan looking character. People aren’t going to read the whole thing. So there I am, the old white guy with the gnarly shit on his board waiting in line.
Dude I came super close to picking up that inside job strange love with the bush blow up doll flying into the twin towers. I thought the graphic was amazing but I traveled a lot at the time and just didn’t want to have that in line at tsa.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 10, 2020, 06:04:36 AM
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Confusion reigns on the primitive stuff. Which is cool cuz I’m confused on whether I should buy one (I hear great things, and they sponsor some of my absolute faves). And they also do the shitty direct thing and shops I buy from, most likely won’t have their boards. But they also seem to be perfect for Ventures, and I like that. But they have some trife graphics. They do sponsor Wade tho.
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It is SO hard to find a acceptable primitive graphic
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Yeah I mean, at this point I shouldn’t give a fuck. As long as it doesn’t have racist/sexist/‘phobic/hate shit, or the weird anime sexualized little girl thing, I’m good. I step out of the house and I like silly. I’m over 40. I look bits carrying a skateboard.
I actually have this super sick strangelove board rn, has the us vs them graphic. Rad graphic. Totally has a confederate flag, and a Klan looking character. People aren’t going to read the whole thing. So there I am, the old white guy with the gnarly shit on his board waiting in line.
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Dude I came super close to picking up that inside job strange love with the bush blow up doll flying into the twin towers. I thought the graphic was amazing but I traveled a lot at the time and just didn’t want to have that in line at tsa.

Strangelove is so sick. My only regret with them is that I don’t buy more of their stuff.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 10, 2020, 05:47:37 PM
Tossing up switching from 44's to 5.8s on my new board, AH Brown Bomber 8.8 x 32 x 14.25.

How do you guys find them on transition? Any better or worse than say Indy or Ace? I've been so used to these two brands anything else is a scary change for me

It's going to be drastic change in bowls if you're riding loose Aces.

I prefer the ace in transition for sure.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Juanjo789 on June 11, 2020, 06:06:59 AM
How are 6.1s for bowl skating, Ive heard venture sucks for pool coping
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on June 11, 2020, 11:01:32 AM
just got a package in the mail of some v lite 5.2’s psyched to try these out later.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on June 11, 2020, 12:47:58 PM
How are 6.1s for bowl skating, Ive heard venture sucks for pool coping

Ventures are fine on pool coping.  They have a ton of kingpin clearance too. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 11, 2020, 01:22:10 PM
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Tossing up switching from 44's to 5.8s on my new board, AH Brown Bomber 8.8 x 32 x 14.25.

How do you guys find them on transition? Any better or worse than say Indy or Ace? I've been so used to these two brands anything else is a scary change for me
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It's going to be drastic change in bowls if you're riding loose Aces.

I prefer the ace in transition for sure.

ACE>Indy>Theeve are Kings in bowls; Venture/Thunder are different beasts. They work just fine but don't expect your muscle memory to work the same way on the same walls you skated with ACE, you will get thrown :P

I speak from experience in riding my 5.6s in the same bowls I skated (the day after) my ACEs in, things you just 'do' without thinking need a little thinking applied.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on June 11, 2020, 04:39:45 PM
just got a package in the mail of some v lite 5.2’s psyched to try these out later.

just skated these for 3 hours. really surprised with these. I was apprehensive at first because I’ve never had ventures. I have them factory loose, but I feel the stability. longer wheelbase def threw me off with varial heels and hardflips, but I think these are my new favorite truck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on June 12, 2020, 04:07:12 AM
i wanted to try riding a longer deck and i’m looking at a Real thats 32.62 long with a 14.6 wb. the length i’m into but the wheelbase sounds insane to me. i’d be running it with cast Ventures. anyone have experience?  i know the trend is shorter wheelbases but just curious
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 12, 2020, 09:45:54 AM
Confusion reigns on the primitive stuff. Which is cool cuz I’m confused on whether I should buy one (I hear great things, and they sponsor some of my absolute faves). And they also do the shitty direct thing and shops I buy from, most likely won’t have their boards. But they also seem to be perfect for Ventures, and I like that. But they have some trife graphics. They do sponsor Wade tho.

The website dims are accurate (8.25 and 8.125) but they have an 8.3x that is not listed on the site (8.3x31.9x14.2) and it feels a bit fuller than a previous 8.375 primitive I rode. (stickers on the boards are more accurate than the website).

Industry sizing sucks ballz. Fucking Baker is guilty as well. Their 8.25x31.875 is actually 32" but not according to the sticker.

Also, I think so e-tailers round up on length dims.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 12, 2020, 10:01:57 AM
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Confusion reigns on the primitive stuff. Which is cool cuz I’m confused on whether I should buy one (I hear great things, and they sponsor some of my absolute faves). And they also do the shitty direct thing and shops I buy from, most likely won’t have their boards. But they also seem to be perfect for Ventures, and I like that. But they have some trife graphics. They do sponsor Wade tho.
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The website dims are accurate (8.25 and 8.125) but they have an 8.3x that is not listed on the site (8.3x31.9x14.2) and it feels a bit fuller than a previous 8.375 primitive I rode. (stickers on the boards are more accurate than the website).

Industry sizing sucks ballz. Fucking Baker is guilty as well. Their 8.25x31.875 is actually 32" but not according to the sticker.

Also, I think so e-tailers round up on length dims.
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Confusion reigns on the primitive stuff. Which is cool cuz I’m confused on whether I should buy one (I hear great things, and they sponsor some of my absolute faves). And they also do the shitty direct thing and shops I buy from, most likely won’t have their boards. But they also seem to be perfect for Ventures, and I like that. But they have some trife graphics. They do sponsor Wade tho.
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The website dims are accurate (8.25 and 8.125) but they have an 8.3x that is not listed on the site (8.3x31.9x14.2) and it feels a bit fuller than a previous 8.375 primitive I rode. (stickers on the boards are more accurate than the website).

Industry sizing sucks ballz. Fucking Baker is guilty as well. Their 8.25x31.875 is actually 32" but not according to the sticker.

Also, I think so e-tailers round up on length dims.

Thanks! I’ll just bug you and esmith if I decide to go primitive. The primitive team is pretty heavy venture, makes sense it’d combo up well. My next boards are doa. If I get a flat I’ll go venture, if I get a steep I’ll go ace. Or something.
I set up an old FA board I haven’t really gotten into. It’s 8.38, 14.12, sub 32”. Little wide for me. It’s square and steep. Put it on 5.8s and 52s. Maybe a finger of flat. Looked like i had never kickflipped before/I was 10 trying to kickflip a board with no/little kicknose and 159s. My attempts were so stunningly rocketed. Treflips flipped perfect. Best feeling ollies I’ve had in months. Wtf. Should have gotten 5.6s, have 5.8s and 5.2s. Whatever.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on June 12, 2020, 11:18:01 AM
Someone asked a while back but what the hell is up with DLX clothing sizing? I have a cotton/poly blend venture shirt that fits on me like jereme rogers circa 2009 size large. But when I get a medium that’s 100% cotton, I look like fucking duffel after 1 wash. Guess I gotta go 100% cotton larges from here on out. Venture shirts and hoodies looks so sick but damn I need a try before you buy lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 12, 2020, 12:05:54 PM
Someone asked a while back but what the hell is up with DLX clothing sizing? I have a cotton/poly blend venture shirt that fits on me like jereme rogers circa 2009 size large. But when I get a medium that’s 100% cotton, I look like fucking duffel after 1 wash. Guess I gotta go 100% cotton larges from here on out. Venture shirts and hoodies looks so sick but damn I need a try before you buy lol

Ventures work great on flat kick with short WB (so yes, Primitive is a perfect match). I'm throwing my ventures on a Polar (14.125" WB) no idea how the kicks/concave are on polars as it's my first one.

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Post by: Ok on June 12, 2020, 12:22:11 PM
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Someone asked a while back but what the hell is up with DLX clothing sizing? I have a cotton/poly blend venture shirt that fits on me like jereme rogers circa 2009 size large. But when I get a medium that’s 100% cotton, I look like fucking duffel after 1 wash. Guess I gotta go 100% cotton larges from here on out. Venture shirts and hoodies looks so sick but damn I need a try before you buy lol
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Ventures work great on flat kick with short WB (so yes, Primitive is a perfect match). I'm throwing my ventures on a Polar (14.125" WB) no idea how the kicks/concave are on polars as it's my first one.

I really liked the polar boards I had (first few years), kinda went away from them, not sure why. Loved the graphics from Jacob. Their 8, and 8.125 + 139s were great for treflips for me, but I think I was really trying to get to 149s to be cool.
I’ve been curious as to how your setup is gonna play, seems like polar team is mostly Indy, some ace, and Herrington does thunder. Wondering how the wheel wells will match up. The board is really sick looking, and I’m sure you’ve got some Indy/ace in your parts bin.

If anyone knows what board @Romliss rides get at me. It looks like it is super flat, with long/mellow tail and nose. Looks great.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on June 12, 2020, 12:32:06 PM
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Someone asked a while back but what the hell is up with DLX clothing sizing? I have a cotton/poly blend venture shirt that fits on me like jereme rogers circa 2009 size large. But when I get a medium that’s 100% cotton, I look like fucking duffel after 1 wash. Guess I gotta go 100% cotton larges from here on out. Venture shirts and hoodies looks so sick but damn I need a try before you buy lol
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Ventures work great on flat kick with short WB (so yes, Primitive is a perfect match). I'm throwing my ventures on a Polar (14.125" WB) no idea how the kicks/concave are on polars as it's my first one.

Have you tried ventures with forged plates on primtive 8.25 or 8.38? I'm thinking about trying one of those shapes or the polar 8.25 shape just to switch it up a lil but a true 14 inch wheelbase scares me lol. How full are the kicks on primitives?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 12, 2020, 01:12:43 PM
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Someone asked a while back but what the hell is up with DLX clothing sizing? I have a cotton/poly blend venture shirt that fits on me like jereme rogers circa 2009 size large. But when I get a medium that’s 100% cotton, I look like fucking duffel after 1 wash. Guess I gotta go 100% cotton larges from here on out. Venture shirts and hoodies looks so sick but damn I need a try before you buy lol
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Ventures work great on flat kick with short WB (so yes, Primitive is a perfect match). I'm throwing my ventures on a Polar (14.125" WB) no idea how the kicks/concave are on polars as it's my first one.
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I really liked the polar boards I had (first few years), kinda went away from them, not sure why. Loved the graphics from Jacob. Their 8, and 8.125 + 139s were great for treflips for me, but I think I was really trying to get to 149s to be cool.
I’ve been curious as to how your setup is gonna play, seems like polar team is mostly Indy, some ace, and Herrington does thunder. Wondering how the wheel wells will match up. The board is really sick looking, and I’m sure you’ve got some Indy/ace in your parts bin.

If anyone knows what board @Romliss rides get at me. It looks like it is super flat, with long/mellow tail and nose. Looks great.

I've some 44s and MLs (I'm a fan) I could use, no indys smaller than 159s, theeve tikings at 8.18" might do the trick.

But I'm really feeling Venture/Thunder of late after riding Tensors @55mm, I just prefer a lower truck 53mm max it seems (so theeve, venture, thunder and ML/ACE all fit the bill). Need to see if the kicks are steep/mellow fingers of flat, etc.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sammyz on June 13, 2020, 02:01:33 AM
Looking for thoughts on this...im thinking of switching from Indy 159’s to ventures.

I usually ride around 9” deck, shaped, 32 long and about a 14.25-14.5wb. Either AntiHero or Black Label decks.

I ride street...ledges and flat ground...sometimes ill ride a half pipe.

What kind of differences should i be expecting by switching? Is it gonna take more effort to pop? Am i gonna get more pop? Do they grind well?

Has anyone tried the bigger ventures? Most people seem to be riding smaller ones...any feedback would be cool
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on June 13, 2020, 06:53:52 AM
Has anyone tried the bigger ventures? Most people seem to be riding smaller ones...any feedback would be cool
I'm currently skating the 6.1 on a 9.125 and they feel like a dream. Probably my favorite truck ever.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 13, 2020, 09:15:40 AM
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I'm currently skating the 6.1 on a 9.125 and they feel like a dream. Probably my favorite truck ever.
yep. Stock everything ? Mine are squeeking badly, I wanna try riptide pivot cups. Amazon?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 13, 2020, 09:35:55 AM
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Has anyone tried the bigger ventures? Most people seem to be riding smaller ones...any feedback would be cool
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I'm currently skating the 6.1 on a 9.125 and they feel like a dream. Probably my favorite truck ever.
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yep. Stock everything ? Mine are squeeking badly, I wanna try riptide pivot cups. Amazon?
Your on the east coast right? Might just be worth grabbing from warehouse skate. I think the amazon ones ship from Michigan vs warehouse being in NC
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 13, 2020, 10:15:30 AM
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I'm currently skating the 6.1 on a 9.125 and they feel like a dream. Probably my favorite truck ever.
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yep. Stock everything ? Mine are squeeking badly, I wanna try riptide pivot cups. Amazon?
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Your on the east coast right? Might just be worth grabbing from warehouse skate. I think the amazon ones ship from Michigan vs warehouse being in NC
yes! Good call thanks. The 96a mini logo will fit?
https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/riptide-sports-wfb-lime-skateboard-truck-pivot-cups-mini-logo-96a
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on June 13, 2020, 10:47:23 AM
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I'm currently skating the 6.1 on a 9.125 and they feel like a dream. Probably my favorite truck ever.
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yep. Stock everything ? Mine are squeeking badly, I wanna try riptide pivot cups. Amazon?
Stock everything. Never touched anything on them. They're fabulous
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on June 13, 2020, 10:52:00 AM
I’ve been running mine totally stock and they’re getting nice and mushy. Put wax in the pivot cups and it got rid of the squeaking and made them turn smoother.

Probably won’t get Ventures again but there was a process to making them feel good. Waxed the cups, and skated them around doing slappies for like a month before they loosened up and started feeling really natural. Hated the grind at first and now it feels about the same as everything else. I hate modding my trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 13, 2020, 11:09:14 AM
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Has anyone tried the bigger ventures? Most people seem to be riding smaller ones...any feedback would be cool
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I'm currently skating the 6.1 on a 9.125 and they feel like a dream. Probably my favorite truck ever.
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yep. Stock everything ? Mine are squeeking badly, I wanna try riptide pivot cups. Amazon?
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Your on the east coast right? Might just be worth grabbing from warehouse skate. I think the amazon ones ship from Michigan vs warehouse being in NC
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yes! Good call thanks. The 96a mini logo will fit?
https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/riptide-sports-wfb-lime-skateboard-truck-pivot-cups-mini-logo-96a
I know the indys will fit just fine. The website at one point said which ones would fit multiple trucks but looks like they revamped the site a little and now venture has the green and a cracked ice option. Could always buy direct from them. I almost want to just to get the cracked ice but that’s a very beyond necessary thing for me to do hah
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 13, 2020, 01:11:57 PM
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Has anyone tried the bigger ventures? Most people seem to be riding smaller ones...any feedback would be cool
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I'm currently skating the 6.1 on a 9.125 and they feel like a dream. Probably my favorite truck ever.
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yep. Stock everything ? Mine are squeeking badly, I wanna try riptide pivot cups. Amazon?
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Your on the east coast right? Might just be worth grabbing from warehouse skate. I think the amazon ones ship from Michigan vs warehouse being in NC
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yes! Good call thanks. The 96a mini logo will fit?
https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/riptide-sports-wfb-lime-skateboard-truck-pivot-cups-mini-logo-96a

Mini logo pivots are shorter than the Venture stock pivots, they are a bit shallower (much like tensor cups), so they would sink down a bit below the 'lip' of the baseplate. Stock ML pivots are HARD AS FUCK.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 13, 2020, 02:05:13 PM
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I'm currently skating the 6.1 on a 9.125 and they feel like a dream. Probably my favorite truck ever.
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yep. Stock everything ? Mine are squeeking badly, I wanna try riptide pivot cups. Amazon?
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Your on the east coast right? Might just be worth grabbing from warehouse skate. I think the amazon ones ship from Michigan vs warehouse being in NC
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yes! Good call thanks. The 96a mini logo will fit?
https://www.warehouseskateboards.com/riptide-sports-wfb-lime-skateboard-truck-pivot-cups-mini-logo-96a
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Mini logo pivots are shorter than the Venture stock pivots, they are a bit shallower (much like tensor cups), so they would sink down a bit below the 'lip' of the baseplate. Stock ML pivots are HARD AS FUCK.
only see tensor alum and mini logo 96a as options on warehouse skate. Sounds like Neither of those will work. Ingrabbed shorty’s red pivot cups from land and sea a while back bc they were super cheap and they’re essentially hard plastic
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 13, 2020, 02:44:23 PM
https://www.riptidesports.com/pivot-cups/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thelonelynow on June 13, 2020, 03:05:06 PM
https://www.riptidesports.com/pivot-cups/

The single greatest aftermarket skateboard accessory I have ever purchased. I put these in all my trucks right from the start now.

I also have a question. I'm on my first week with my Venture 5.6 Titaniums and I skate my trucks moderately loose (kingpin nut flush with top of kingpin) and usually just use stock bushings. My question is how long do Venture bushings usually take to break-in? I'm used to Indy and Thunder which usually just take me a few hours to perhaps a day or two before they're set. The Ventures don't seem to be breaking in though, do they usually stay really soft? It is super hot and humid here but that doesn't usually keep bushings from breaking in properly in my experience. So far it's wheel bite all the time and not very good turning while there's a lot of lean. I've already given up on the Aces I was trying out because of constant bushing bulge and terrible re-centering that there seemed to be no solution to. I don't want to give up as quickly on Venture though. I would appreciate any advice. None of my friends skate Venture so I couldn't get any help from them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 13, 2020, 03:06:37 PM
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https://www.riptidesports.com/pivot-cups/
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The single greatest aftermarket skateboard accessory I have ever purchased. I put these in all my trucks right from the start now.

I also have a question. I'm on my first week with my Venture 5.6 Titaniums and I skate my trucks moderately loose (kingpin nut flush with top of kingpin) and usually just use stock bushings. My question is how long do Venture bushings usually take to break-in? I'm used to Indy and Thunder which usually just take me a few hours to perhaps a day or two before they're set. The Ventures don't seem to be breaking in though, do they usually stay really soft? It is super hot and humid here but that doesn't usually keep bushings from breaking in properly in my experience. So far it's wheel bite all the time and not very good turning while there's a lot of lean. I've already given up on the Aces I was trying out because of constant bushing bulge and terrible re-centering that there seemed to be no solution to. I don't want to give up as quickly on Venture though. I would appreciate any advice. None of my friends skate Venture so I couldn't get any help from them.

Did you remove the top washer? It binds, perhaps that is what is causing it.

I've recently gone back to bones meds in my ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thelonelynow on June 13, 2020, 03:11:42 PM
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https://www.riptidesports.com/pivot-cups/
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The single greatest aftermarket skateboard accessory I have ever purchased. I put these in all my trucks right from the start now.

I also have a question. I'm on my first week with my Venture 5.6 Titaniums and I skate my trucks moderately loose (kingpin nut flush with top of kingpin) and usually just use stock bushings. My question is how long do Venture bushings usually take to break-in? I'm used to Indy and Thunder which usually just take me a few hours to perhaps a day or two before they're set. The Ventures don't seem to be breaking in though, do they usually stay really soft? It is super hot and humid here but that doesn't usually keep bushings from breaking in properly in my experience. So far it's wheel bite all the time and not very good turning while there's a lot of lean. I've already given up on the Aces I was trying out because of constant bushing bulge and terrible re-centering that there seemed to be no solution to. I don't want to give up as quickly on Venture though. I would appreciate any advice. None of my friends skate Venture so I couldn't get any help from them.
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Did you remove the top washer? It binds, perhaps that is what is causing it.

I've recently gone back to bones meds in my ventures.

Remove it? Completely while skating? I never have and with how I skate I think the back truck bushing would get torn to bits within a few days. I do have some Bones mediums, I was hesitant to try them since I've messed up the threading on some kingpins using them before. I may give them a try though, thank you for the advice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sammyz on June 13, 2020, 04:06:52 PM
Ok, so bushings and pivot cups...thats no an issue as i use bones bushing on Indy’s anyway...and i always put dishwashing liquid (prefer it to wax) in pivot cup and around bushings to stop the creaking sound.

Seems like I just need to get a pair to try for myself.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 14, 2020, 01:09:03 PM
Looking for thoughts on this...im thinking of switching from Indy 159’s to ventures.

I usually ride around 9” deck, shaped, 32 long and about a 14.25-14.5wb. Either AntiHero or Black Label decks.

I ride street...ledges and flat ground...sometimes ill ride a half pipe.

What kind of differences should i be expecting by switching? Is it gonna take more effort to pop? Am i gonna get more pop? Do they grind well?

Has anyone tried the bigger ventures? Most people seem to be riding smaller ones...any feedback would be cool

I can only speak for current 5.6 and the 5.0 lows but I have tried the bigger trucks of others.

The Grind is different. But it's definitely superior once you get used to it. Once you begin getting groovy it's really nice.

It's a really hard metal truck. It almost like tin feeling at first. I would say this truck grinds faster but not easier than an Indy 11. After a few weeks difference will be unnoticeable.

It's a tall truck that pinches like a thunder because of the axle and kingpin position. I fall out less on crooked type tricks.

You definitely got to go faster to grind on crusty stuff with Ventures. And pool coping was kinda frightening till I got new wheels.

Turn change will be a drastic. Could ride the Indy bushings for a bit till your used to the geometry change.

Pop I've noticed is like a thunder. Nice aggressive lever action. Pow.

The stock bushings break in nice if one doesn't break all the way. Wish I had second set.

The Replacement parts (dlx tackle)
total a pain to find anything outside of 88a (clear) or 94a (green)
Stock is perfect hardness and should be cherished but I'm fucking cursed.

Bones tops break fast in Ventures with or without a washer.
 I need to find another set of stocks but I'm not holding breathe.

Manny powers are good I recommend fingers of flat
lots of flat before the kicks if you like that kinda thing.

The flat bar or anything metal is heavenly. I did my first few crooks on the flat bar at home. So nice.

Wheels up to 56s work out it seems.

I hope this helps if I repeated myself it's because I started this post like hrs ago and got distracted
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on June 14, 2020, 02:13:48 PM
Anyone actually measured baseplate to center of axle on venture? My cast are 55mm instead of 53.5 as listed everywhere, not a deal breaker but it makes me want to go forged baseplate to see what’s up. Guess I’m breaking out the forbidden gold PRod baseplates. Yuck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on June 14, 2020, 02:18:29 PM
Anyone actually measured baseplate to center of axle on venture? My cast are 55mm instead of 53.5 as listed everywhere, not a deal breaker but it makes me want to go forged baseplate to see what’s up. Guess I’m breaking out the forbidden gold PRod baseplates. Yuck.

the gold baseplates are sick fuckkkk the haters
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 14, 2020, 02:22:39 PM
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Anyone actually measured baseplate to center of axle on venture? My cast are 55mm instead of 53.5 as listed everywhere, not a deal breaker but it makes me want to go forged baseplate to see what’s up. Guess I’m breaking out the forbidden gold PRod baseplates. Yuck.
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the gold baseplates are sick fuckkkk the haters

Blingin.
I dunno about that measurement (55mm). My cast seem shorter than Indy, when placed side by side (admittedly not a measurement).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on June 14, 2020, 02:30:19 PM
My apologies pals had to throw on my slight of hand perk and did a remeasure. Cast is def 53.5 and forged is 52. My mind can rest easier today even though someone broke into my fucking car with a hammer this morning and stole $50 of coins from my coinstar jar and took my favorite speaker smh, like whyyyy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 14, 2020, 02:38:55 PM
My apologies pals had to throw on my slight of hand perk and did a remeasure. Cast is def 53.5 and forged is 52. My mind can rest easier today even though someone broke into my fucking car with a hammer this morning and stole $50 of coins from my coinstar jar and took my favorite speaker smh, like whyyyy


Fuck. I’m sorry.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 14, 2020, 06:32:01 PM
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Looking for thoughts on this...im thinking of switching from Indy 159’s to ventures.

I usually ride around 9” deck, shaped, 32 long and about a 14.25-14.5wb. Either AntiHero or Black Label decks.

I ride street...ledges and flat ground...sometimes ill ride a half pipe.

What kind of differences should i be expecting by switching? Is it gonna take more effort to pop? Am i gonna get more pop? Do they grind well?

Has anyone tried the bigger ventures? Most people seem to be riding smaller ones...any feedback would be cool
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I can only speak for current 5.6 and the 5.0 lows but I have tried the bigger trucks of others.

The Grind is different. But it's definitely superior once you get used to it. Once you begin getting groovy it's really nice.

It's a really hard metal truck. It almost like tin feeling at first. I would say this truck grinds faster but not easier than an Indy 11. After a few weeks difference will be unnoticeable.

It's a tall truck that pinches like a thunder because of the axle and kingpin position. I fall out less on crooked type tricks.

You definitely got to go faster to grind on crusty stuff with Ventures. And pool coping was kinda frightening till I got new wheels.

Turn change will be a drastic. Could ride the Indy bushings for a bit till your used to the geometry change.

Pop I've noticed is like a thunder. Nice aggressive lever action. Pow.

The stock bushings break in nice if one doesn't break all the way. Wish I had second set.

The Replacement parts (dlx tackle)
total a pain to find anything outside of 88a (clear) or 94a (green)
Stock is perfect hardness and should be cherished but I'm fucking cursed.

Bones tops break fast in Ventures with or without a washer.
 I need to find another set of stocks but I'm not holding breathe.

Manny powers are good I recommend fingers of lots of flat before the kicks if you like that kinda thing.

The flat bar or anything metal is heavenly. I did my first few crooks on the flat bar at home. So nice.

Wheels up to 56s work out it seems.

I hope this helps if I repeated myself it's because I started this post like hrs ago and got distracted
I’m pretty sure I have a set of unskated stocks laying around if you need them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 14, 2020, 07:07:32 PM
Best thread. I wanna try a flat washer (top or bottom?) with my 97a supercush
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 14, 2020, 07:19:38 PM
Best thread. I wanna try a flat washer (top or bottom?) with my 97a supercush

Top to prevent washer binding for sure.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 14, 2020, 07:23:05 PM
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Top to prevent washer binding for sure.


dont have bones I hear top washer w those being used a lot but this size seems best
https://www.riptidesports.com/hardware/large-flat-washers/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 14, 2020, 07:45:34 PM
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Top to prevent washer binding for sure.


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dont have bones I hear top washer w those being used a lot but this size seems best
https://www.riptidesports.com/hardware/large-flat-washers/
I want to try the bones top washer too and I’m 100 percent sure I have some but I haven’t taken the 30 seconds to find them yet haha
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sammyz on June 14, 2020, 10:40:28 PM
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Looking for thoughts on this...im thinking of switching from Indy 159’s to ventures.

I usually ride around 9” deck, shaped, 32 long and about a 14.25-14.5wb. Either AntiHero or Black Label decks.

I ride street...ledges and flat ground...sometimes ill ride a half pipe.

What kind of differences should i be expecting by switching? Is it gonna take more effort to pop? Am i gonna get more pop? Do they grind well?

Has anyone tried the bigger ventures? Most people seem to be riding smaller ones...any feedback would be cool
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I can only speak for current 5.6 and the 5.0 lows but I have tried the bigger trucks of others.

The Grind is different. But it's definitely superior once you get used to it. Once you begin getting groovy it's really nice.

It's a really hard metal truck. It almost like tin feeling at first. I would say this truck grinds faster but not easier than an Indy 11. After a few weeks difference will be unnoticeable.

It's a tall truck that pinches like a thunder because of the axle and kingpin position. I fall out less on crooked type tricks.

You definitely got to go faster to grind on crusty stuff with Ventures. And pool coping was kinda frightening till I got new wheels.

Turn change will be a drastic. Could ride the Indy bushings for a bit till your used to the geometry change.

Pop I've noticed is like a thunder. Nice aggressive lever action. Pow.

The stock bushings break in nice if one doesn't break all the way. Wish I had second set.

The Replacement parts (dlx tackle)
total a pain to find anything outside of 88a (clear) or 94a (green)
Stock is perfect hardness and should be cherished but I'm fucking cursed.

Bones tops break fast in Ventures with or without a washer.
 I need to find another set of stocks but I'm not holding breathe.

Manny powers are good I recommend fingers of flat
lots of flat before the kicks if you like that kinda thing.

The flat bar or anything metal is heavenly. I did my first few crooks on the flat bar at home. So nice.

Wheels up to 56s work out it seems.

I hope this helps if I repeated myself it's because I started this post like hrs ago and got distracted

mate, thanks for the detail response.

That's a lot of things to consider...in my old age, my go to tricks are 5050 on ledges, and anything that can my pop better is great too. I remember when i was young (in the 80's/90's) all trucks had a few weeks break in period for grinding, so i guess i can try and remember how that was. sucks about the bushings breaking...i suspect if you have problems finding replacements in the US, id have no chance in Australia.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 15, 2020, 11:28:58 AM
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Best thread. I wanna try a flat washer (top or bottom?) with my 97a supercush
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Top to prevent washer binding for sure.


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dont have bones I hear top washer w those being used a lot but this size seems best
https://www.riptidesports.com/hardware/large-flat-washers/

That link is to LARGE flat washers brosef. For the top bushing you want the small ones:

https://www.riptidesports.com/hardware/small-flat-washers/

You can also brave the covid and hit a hardware store (or look around your house, bet you can find one that fits.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 15, 2020, 11:59:06 AM
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Best thread. I wanna try a flat washer (top or bottom?) with my 97a supercush
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Top to prevent washer binding for sure.


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dont have bones I hear top washer w those being used a lot but this size seems best
https://www.riptidesports.com/hardware/large-flat-washers/
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That link is to LARGE flat washers brosef. For the top bushing you want the small ones:

https://www.riptidesports.com/hardware/small-flat-washers/

You can also brave the covid and hit a hardware store (or look around your house, bet you can find one that fits.
yeah good call wrong pasted link. ill jerry-rigg something up today to try it out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 15, 2020, 05:52:04 PM
What decks have more ‘fingers of flat’?
Any that have longer tail/nose?

Skated a fa with 5.8s, doesn’t quite feel right, but the ollie was great. That board is just too dramatic for me.

I know primitive works for many, I’d prefer to get something a little less ....mainstream. As wack as that sounds.

Please and thanks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 15, 2020, 07:03:08 PM
What decks have more ‘fingers of flat’?
Any that have longer tail/nose?

Skated a fa with 5.8s, doesn’t quite feel right, but the ollie was great. That board is just too dramatic for me.

I know primitive works for many, I’d prefer to get something a little less ....mainstream. As wack as that sounds.

Please and thanks.

Interesting description, please explain.

What are the dimensions on your FA? Been looking to get one if I can get it one on discount.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 15, 2020, 07:18:51 PM
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What decks have more ‘fingers of flat’?
Any that have longer tail/nose?

Skated a fa with 5.8s, doesn’t quite feel right, but the ollie was great. That board is just too dramatic for me.

I know primitive works for many, I’d prefer to get something a little less ....mainstream. As wack as that sounds.

Please and thanks.
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Interesting description, please explain.

What are the dimensions on your FA? Been looking to get one if I can get it one on discount.

Severe shape, very blunt, steep large nose....most people hop on a board and kickflip/ollie right away. I nollie. I don’t have a particularly good one, it just feels nice, solid. Not on that board tho. Every now and again a trick connects and get some pop, but for the most part it’s not for me. Graphic is really excellent.
8.38 (I think)x14.12x31.8ish. On paper this should be my shit. Board not too long, wb in the range of 14-14.25”....should be a go. Just isn’t. I’ve tried it with a lot of stuff. I’m the problem. It’s not the. Parts fault. Just doesn’t work for me. And that’s basically been my fa experience. And I’ve had a few. I might like it the first day, but never the second and onward.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 15, 2020, 07:48:17 PM
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What decks have more ‘fingers of flat’?
Any that have longer tail/nose?

Skated a fa with 5.8s, doesn’t quite feel right, but the ollie was great. That board is just too dramatic for me.

I know primitive works for many, I’d prefer to get something a little less ....mainstream. As wack as that sounds.

Please and thanks.
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Interesting description, please explain.

What are the dimensions on your FA? Been looking to get one if I can get it one on discount.
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Severe shape, very blunt, steep large nose....most people hop on a board and kickflip/ollie right away. I nollie. I don’t have a particularly good one, it just feels nice, solid. Not on that board tho. Every now and again a trick connects and get some pop, but for the most part it’s not for me. Graphic is really excellent.
8.38 (I think)x14.12x31.8ish. On paper this should be my shit. Board not too long, wb in the range of 14-14.25”....should be a go. Just isn’t. I’ve tried it with a lot of stuff. I’m the problem. It’s not the. Parts fault. Just doesn’t work for me. And that’s basically been my fa experience. And I’ve had a few. I might like it the first day, but never the second and onward.

Thanks for the detailed reply and get what you mean completely. It's a so-so deck experience, when it slaps its great but it's less common than you would like. Those dimension look great, right up my alley too.

Did you pair them with Venture cast or forged?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 15, 2020, 07:51:42 PM
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What decks have more ‘fingers of flat’?
Any that have longer tail/nose?

Skated a fa with 5.8s, doesn’t quite feel right, but the ollie was great. That board is just too dramatic for me.

I know primitive works for many, I’d prefer to get something a little less ....mainstream. As wack as that sounds.

Please and thanks.
[close]

Interesting description, please explain.

What are the dimensions on your FA? Been looking to get one if I can get it one on discount.
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Severe shape, very blunt, steep large nose....most people hop on a board and kickflip/ollie right away. I nollie. I don’t have a particularly good one, it just feels nice, solid. Not on that board tho. Every now and again a trick connects and get some pop, but for the most part it’s not for me. Graphic is really excellent.
8.38 (I think)x14.12x31.8ish. On paper this should be my shit. Board not too long, wb in the range of 14-14.25”....should be a go. Just isn’t. I’ve tried it with a lot of stuff. I’m the problem. It’s not the. Parts fault. Just doesn’t work for me. And that’s basically been my fa experience. And I’ve had a few. I might like it the first day, but never the second and onward.
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Thanks for the detailed reply and get what you mean completely. It's a so-so deck experience, when it slaps its great but it's less common than you would like. Those dimension look great, right up my alley too.

Did you pair them with Venture cast or forged?

I’ve tried it with venture cast 5.8, Indy 159, cast thunder 149, ace 44. With ventures was the best pop. 159s were great the first day, too beast after that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 15, 2020, 08:03:28 PM
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What decks have more ‘fingers of flat’?
Any that have longer tail/nose?

Skated a fa with 5.8s, doesn’t quite feel right, but the ollie was great. That board is just too dramatic for me.

I know primitive works for many, I’d prefer to get something a little less ....mainstream. As wack as that sounds.

Please and thanks.
[close]

Interesting description, please explain.

What are the dimensions on your FA? Been looking to get one if I can get it one on discount.
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Severe shape, very blunt, steep large nose....most people hop on a board and kickflip/ollie right away. I nollie. I don’t have a particularly good one, it just feels nice, solid. Not on that board tho. Every now and again a trick connects and get some pop, but for the most part it’s not for me. Graphic is really excellent.
8.38 (I think)x14.12x31.8ish. On paper this should be my shit. Board not too long, wb in the range of 14-14.25”....should be a go. Just isn’t. I’ve tried it with a lot of stuff. I’m the problem. It’s not the. Parts fault. Just doesn’t work for me. And that’s basically been my fa experience. And I’ve had a few. I might like it the first day, but never the second and onward.
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Thanks for the detailed reply and get what you mean completely. It's a so-so deck experience, when it slaps its great but it's less common than you would like. Those dimension look great, right up my alley too.

Did you pair them with Venture cast or forged?
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I’ve tried it with venture cast 5.8, Indy 159, cast thunder 149, ace 44. With ventures was the best pop. 159s were great the first day, too beast after that.

Damn, sounds like serious gear madness. I've narrowed my trucks down to Thunders, Ventures and Tensors. I'll stick to my unused stack of boards before going down this rabbit hole again.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drunk guy on June 15, 2020, 08:08:03 PM
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What decks have more ‘fingers of flat’?
Any that have longer tail/nose?

Skated a fa with 5.8s, doesn’t quite feel right, but the ollie was great. That board is just too dramatic for me.

I know primitive works for many, I’d prefer to get something a little less ....mainstream. As wack as that sounds.

Please and thanks.
[close]

Interesting description, please explain.

What are the dimensions on your FA? Been looking to get one if I can get it one on discount.
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Severe shape, very blunt, steep large nose....most people hop on a board and kickflip/ollie right away. I nollie. I don’t have a particularly good one, it just feels nice, solid. Not on that board tho. Every now and again a trick connects and get some pop, but for the most part it’s not for me. Graphic is really excellent.
8.38 (I think)x14.12x31.8ish. On paper this should be my shit. Board not too long, wb in the range of 14-14.25”....should be a go. Just isn’t. I’ve tried it with a lot of stuff. I’m the problem. It’s not the. Parts fault. Just doesn’t work for me. And that’s basically been my fa experience. And I’ve had a few. I might like it the first day, but never the second and onward.
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Thanks for the detailed reply and get what you mean completely. It's a so-so deck experience, when it slaps its great but it's less common than you would like. Those dimension look great, right up my alley too.

Did you pair them with Venture cast or forged?
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I’ve tried it with venture cast 5.8, Indy 159, cast thunder 149, ace 44. With ventures was the best pop. 159s were great the first day, too beast after that.
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Damn, sounds like serious gear madness. I've narrowed my trucks down to Thunders, Ventures and Tensors. I'll stick to my unused stack of boards before going down this rabbit hole again.
Switching trucks that many times would give me the most anxiety
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 15, 2020, 08:13:06 PM
Switching trucks is shameful. And also doesn’t work.







Until it does.
Don’t do it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 16, 2020, 10:01:59 AM
What decks have more ‘fingers of flat’?
Any that have longer tail/nose?

Skated a fa with 5.8s, doesn’t quite feel right, but the ollie was great. That board is just too dramatic for me.

I know primitive works for many, I’d prefer to get something a little less ....mainstream. As wack as that sounds.

Please and thanks.

Hopps Visit Traffic... all these boards have been kind on the Manny pad. They all come from the same place I'm pretty sure.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 16, 2020, 10:26:32 AM
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What decks have more ‘fingers of flat’?
Any that have longer tail/nose?

Skated a fa with 5.8s, doesn’t quite feel right, but the ollie was great. That board is just too dramatic for me.

I know primitive works for many, I’d prefer to get something a little less ....mainstream. As wack as that sounds.

Please and thanks.
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Hopps Visit Traffic... all these boards have been kind on the Manny pad. They all come from the same place I'm pretty sure.

Thanks!
Appreciate you
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on June 16, 2020, 01:43:05 PM
Traffic decks are  8)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 16, 2020, 07:35:40 PM
Switching trucks is shameful. And also doesn’t work.







Until it does.
Don’t do it

lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 16, 2020, 08:06:58 PM
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Switching trucks is shameful. And also doesn’t work.







Until it does.
Don’t do it
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lol

I feel personally attacked

shamefully looks at collection of 15 pairs of trucks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 16, 2020, 09:07:17 PM
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Switching trucks is shameful. And also doesn’t work.







Until it does.
Don’t do it
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lol
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I feel personally attacked

shamefully looks at collection of 15 pairs of trucks

Ha.
I’ve to have too much metal. Whatever. Share with someone in need of it is feeling too greedy. It’s fun to swap shit about. But. I’ve been complaining about this fa board, the steep nose/tail, constantly switching the trucks. Was going to switch the trucks tonight, but instead decided to grab the last little bit of daylight and cruise around. Had one of those very rare moments were it all seemed to be working. That’s the problem I have with too much stuff: I never overcome/adjust. I just go straight to fucking around with parts. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 16, 2020, 09:48:30 PM
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Switching trucks is shameful. And also doesn’t work.







Until it does.
Don’t do it
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lol
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I feel personally attacked

shamefully looks at collection of 15 pairs of trucks
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Ha.
I’ve to have too much metal. Whatever. Share with someone in need of it is feeling too greedy. It’s fun to swap shit about. But. I’ve been complaining about this fa board, the steep nose/tail, constantly switching the trucks. Was going to switch the trucks tonight, but instead decided to grab the last little bit of daylight and cruise around. Had one of those very rare moments were it all seemed to be working. That’s the problem I have with too much stuff: I never overcome/adjust. I just go straight to fucking around with parts.

I get lazy to take off and on my trucks; takes time away from being on the board. My country is finally coming out of lockdown this Friday and parks are reopening. I'm stuck with analysis paralysis; too many boards and too truck combinations. I'm pre-maturely retiring my COVID setup (Real Kyle Walker), I'll leave it in the park for someone who needs it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on June 17, 2020, 02:05:35 PM
I religiously ride the 32x8.25 DLX shape with a 14.38 WB (II and III are my faves. IV is a tad too flat, I is a tad too steep). 144 Indy ti, and 53mm Spit Classics.

I hate everything NHS and have wanted to get off Indy for years, but have yet to find another truck that I really like.

Aces do turn great, but they are heavy as fuck, and the shorter wheel base really makes my feet feel too cramped/less stable, esp on any 1-truck grind (5-0, nose grinds, Smith, etc). Ollies feel like I am loosing power, as if swinging a baseball bat while holding the middle of bat rather than the end. 

Thunders have a much slower/sluggish turn. The longer wheelbase is noticeable on flip tricks/more effort, but this is somewhat off-set by lighter weight. Lower height makes pop feel wonky. All of these issue I can somewhat deal with. My major sticking point with Thunders is that inane wheel/baseplate clearance issue. I don't want to be forced to use turbostupid amounts of wax on a ledge to get a decent nose/tail slide without the wheels sticking.

So...I'm thinking of revisiting Ventures. It's been a minute. After reading everything in this thread, I'm thinking about 5.6 cast. I don't want to go too crazy with extending the wheelbase (e.g. forged, but lighter would be nice).

Has anyone gone from a 14.38 with Indys to Ventures? if so, what were your thoughts? I didn't seem to see anyone mention that specific scenario in the previous 20+ pages of this thread.

Well, my pair of 5.6 came a few days ago. Been skating them this week with various different bushing/washer configurations, and I just can't hang with them. I wanted to like Ventures a lot. I want to be done with Indys, but I just can't seem to quit them. The Venture wheelbase is just too long for me. Everything felt sluggish, kickflips to kickturns. I didn't like the manual balance point, and even something like just turning/carving wasn't as much fun. So, I am back on the Indys, yet again.

Why can't/won't DLX make a truck with a shorter wheelbase option?   
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 17, 2020, 02:13:37 PM
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I religiously ride the 32x8.25 DLX shape with a 14.38 WB (II and III are my faves. IV is a tad too flat, I is a tad too steep). 144 Indy ti, and 53mm Spit Classics.

I hate everything NHS and have wanted to get off Indy for years, but have yet to find another truck that I really like.

Aces do turn great, but they are heavy as fuck, and the shorter wheel base really makes my feet feel too cramped/less stable, esp on any 1-truck grind (5-0, nose grinds, Smith, etc). Ollies feel like I am loosing power, as if swinging a baseball bat while holding the middle of bat rather than the end. 

Thunders have a much slower/sluggish turn. The longer wheelbase is noticeable on flip tricks/more effort, but this is somewhat off-set by lighter weight. Lower height makes pop feel wonky. All of these issue I can somewhat deal with. My major sticking point with Thunders is that inane wheel/baseplate clearance issue. I don't want to be forced to use turbostupid amounts of wax on a ledge to get a decent nose/tail slide without the wheels sticking.

So...I'm thinking of revisiting Ventures. It's been a minute. After reading everything in this thread, I'm thinking about 5.6 cast. I don't want to go too crazy with extending the wheelbase (e.g. forged, but lighter would be nice).

Has anyone gone from a 14.38 with Indys to Ventures? if so, what were your thoughts? I didn't seem to see anyone mention that specific scenario in the previous 20+ pages of this thread.
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Well, my pair of 5.6 came a few days ago. Been skating them this week with various different bushing/washer configurations, and I just can't hang with them. I wanted to like Ventures a lot. I want to be done with Indys, but I just can't seem to quit them. The Venture wheelbase is just too long for me. Everything felt sluggish, kickflips to kickturns. I didn't like the manual balance point, and even something like just turning/carving wasn't as much fun. So, I am back on the Indys, yet again.

Why can't/won't DLX make a truck with a shorter wheelbase option?   

You over them let me know. I’m trying to get the 5.6s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 17, 2020, 02:22:36 PM
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I religiously ride the 32x8.25 DLX shape with a 14.38 WB (II and III are my faves. IV is a tad too flat, I is a tad too steep). 144 Indy ti, and 53mm Spit Classics.

I hate everything NHS and have wanted to get off Indy for years, but have yet to find another truck that I really like.

Aces do turn great, but they are heavy as fuck, and the shorter wheel base really makes my feet feel too cramped/less stable, esp on any 1-truck grind (5-0, nose grinds, Smith, etc). Ollies feel like I am loosing power, as if swinging a baseball bat while holding the middle of bat rather than the end. 

Thunders have a much slower/sluggish turn. The longer wheelbase is noticeable on flip tricks/more effort, but this is somewhat off-set by lighter weight. Lower height makes pop feel wonky. All of these issue I can somewhat deal with. My major sticking point with Thunders is that inane wheel/baseplate clearance issue. I don't want to be forced to use turbostupid amounts of wax on a ledge to get a decent nose/tail slide without the wheels sticking.

So...I'm thinking of revisiting Ventures. It's been a minute. After reading everything in this thread, I'm thinking about 5.6 cast. I don't want to go too crazy with extending the wheelbase (e.g. forged, but lighter would be nice).

Has anyone gone from a 14.38 with Indys to Ventures? if so, what were your thoughts? I didn't seem to see anyone mention that specific scenario in the previous 20+ pages of this thread.
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Well, my pair of 5.6 came a few days ago. Been skating them this week with various different bushing/washer configurations, and I just can't hang with them. I wanted to like Ventures a lot. I want to be done with Indys, but I just can't seem to quit them. The Venture wheelbase is just too long for me. Everything felt sluggish, kickflips to kickturns. I didn't like the manual balance point, and even something like just turning/carving wasn't as much fun. So, I am back on the Indys, yet again.

Why can't/won't DLX make a truck with a shorter wheelbase option?   

It takes a little while to normalcy. Keep pushing or set up two boards. You can do it. Anyone can make the switch I swear.

I love my 5.6 it was kinda difficult for me coming off aces but this helps.

(https://i.ibb.co/d6ZGHQg/15924286447991014757195.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vm9ZMJY)
(https://i.ibb.co/FJcY926/15924286741742099581129.jpg) (https://ibb.co/82GxJqM)

I'm bummed on broken bones now I got used to the stock bushings but it's all I got rn. I'm telling you it's the way to transition easily from Indy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 17, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
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I religiously ride the 32x8.25 DLX shape with a 14.38 WB (II and III are my faves. IV is a tad too flat, I is a tad too steep). 144 Indy ti, and 53mm Spit Classics.

I hate everything NHS and have wanted to get off Indy for years, but have yet to find another truck that I really like.

Aces do turn great, but they are heavy as fuck, and the shorter wheel base really makes my feet feel too cramped/less stable, esp on any 1-truck grind (5-0, nose grinds, Smith, etc). Ollies feel like I am loosing power, as if swinging a baseball bat while holding the middle of bat rather than the end. 

Thunders have a much slower/sluggish turn. The longer wheelbase is noticeable on flip tricks/more effort, but this is somewhat off-set by lighter weight. Lower height makes pop feel wonky. All of these issue I can somewhat deal with. My major sticking point with Thunders is that inane wheel/baseplate clearance issue. I don't want to be forced to use turbostupid amounts of wax on a ledge to get a decent nose/tail slide without the wheels sticking.

So...I'm thinking of revisiting Ventures. It's been a minute. After reading everything in this thread, I'm thinking about 5.6 cast. I don't want to go too crazy with extending the wheelbase (e.g. forged, but lighter would be nice).

Has anyone gone from a 14.38 with Indys to Ventures? if so, what were your thoughts? I didn't seem to see anyone mention that specific scenario in the previous 20+ pages of this thread.
[close]

Well, my pair of 5.6 came a few days ago. Been skating them this week with various different bushing/washer configurations, and I just can't hang with them. I wanted to like Ventures a lot. I want to be done with Indys, but I just can't seem to quit them. The Venture wheelbase is just too long for me. Everything felt sluggish, kickflips to kickturns. I didn't like the manual balance point, and even something like just turning/carving wasn't as much fun. So, I am back on the Indys, yet again.

Why can't/won't DLX make a truck with a shorter wheelbase option?   
[close]

It takes a little while to normalcy. Keep pushing or set up two boards. You can do it. Anyone can make the switch I swear.

I love my 5.6 it was kinda difficult for me coming off aces but this helps.

(https://i.ibb.co/d6ZGHQg/15924286447991014757195.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vm9ZMJY)
(https://i.ibb.co/FJcY926/15924286741742099581129.jpg) (https://ibb.co/82GxJqM)

I'm bummed on broken bones now I got used to the stock bushings but it's all I got rn. I'm telling you it's the way to transition easily from Indy.

Agree with Banned for sure. Bones work great from jump, I like the stocks too. Ventures are a really great/durable truck. Pop is the best.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on June 17, 2020, 02:29:27 PM
Whenever I try a new truck, first thing I do is ride it stock, to see what it feels like. I had/have Bones bushing in my Indys. After trying the stock bushings for a while (purple ones), I put my Bones bushings in...and I HATED it. The slow, sluggish, numb-feeling turn seemed to be exacerbated with the Bones bushings. I skated it for about 5 min, and then put the stock back in, and like that MUCH better (looser turn). 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 17, 2020, 02:54:20 PM
They gotta break. The plastic tops need to be cracked up

Stock is the best with a flat washer.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 17, 2020, 03:53:58 PM
They gotta break. The plastic tops need to be cracked up

Stock is the best with a flat washer.
Got some stocks headed your way tomorrow big dawg
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 17, 2020, 04:12:28 PM
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They gotta break. The plastic tops need to be cracked up

Stock is the best with a flat washer.
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Got some stocks headed your way tomorrow big dawg
d

So sick
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on June 17, 2020, 04:44:38 PM
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What decks have more ‘fingers of flat’?
Any that have longer tail/nose?

Skated a fa with 5.8s, doesn’t quite feel right, but the ollie was great. That board is just too dramatic for me.

I know primitive works for many, I’d prefer to get something a little less ....mainstream. As wack as that sounds.

Please and thanks.
[close]

Hopps Visit Traffic... all these boards have been kind on the Manny pad. They all come from the same place I'm pretty sure.
Anti hero 8.5 pigeon budgie board is perfect for venture 5.8. high standards. Almost 3 fingers of flat before the nose and tail and they're both longer than usual too. That's what I'm on and plan on getting extras.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 17, 2020, 04:51:19 PM
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What decks have more ‘fingers of flat’?
Any that have longer tail/nose?

Skated a fa with 5.8s, doesn’t quite feel right, but the ollie was great. That board is just too dramatic for me.

I know primitive works for many, I’d prefer to get something a little less ....mainstream. As wack as that sounds.

Please and thanks.
[close]

Hopps Visit Traffic... all these boards have been kind on the Manny pad. They all come from the same place I'm pretty sure.
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Anti hero 8.5 pigeon budgie board is perfect for venture 5.8. high standards. Almost 3 fingers of flat before the nose and tail and they're both longer than usual too. That's what I'm on and plan on getting extras.

If it's the same deck as the krooked team eyes 8.5 it is a very fine combo with 5.6s as well
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Post by: Boog on June 17, 2020, 04:51:59 PM
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I religiously ride the 32x8.25 DLX shape with a 14.38 WB (II and III are my faves. IV is a tad too flat, I is a tad too steep). 144 Indy ti, and 53mm Spit Classics.

I hate everything NHS and have wanted to get off Indy for years, but have yet to find another truck that I really like.

Aces do turn great, but they are heavy as fuck, and the shorter wheel base really makes my feet feel too cramped/less stable, esp on any 1-truck grind (5-0, nose grinds, Smith, etc). Ollies feel like I am loosing power, as if swinging a baseball bat while holding the middle of bat rather than the end. 

Thunders have a much slower/sluggish turn. The longer wheelbase is noticeable on flip tricks/more effort, but this is somewhat off-set by lighter weight. Lower height makes pop feel wonky. All of these issue I can somewhat deal with. My major sticking point with Thunders is that inane wheel/baseplate clearance issue. I don't want to be forced to use turbostupid amounts of wax on a ledge to get a decent nose/tail slide without the wheels sticking.

So...I'm thinking of revisiting Ventures. It's been a minute. After reading everything in this thread, I'm thinking about 5.6 cast. I don't want to go too crazy with extending the wheelbase (e.g. forged, but lighter would be nice).

Has anyone gone from a 14.38 with Indys to Ventures? if so, what were your thoughts? I didn't seem to see anyone mention that specific scenario in the previous 20+ pages of this thread.
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Well, my pair of 5.6 came a few days ago. Been skating them this week with various different bushing/washer configurations, and I just can't hang with them. I wanted to like Ventures a lot. I want to be done with Indys, but I just can't seem to quit them. The Venture wheelbase is just too long for me. Everything felt sluggish, kickflips to kickturns. I didn't like the manual balance point, and even something like just turning/carving wasn't as much fun. So, I am back on the Indys, yet again.

Why can't/won't DLX make a truck with a shorter wheelbase option?   
I love my venture 5.8 on my 8.5 with 14.38wb anti hero. It has a longer nose and tail with about 3 fingers of flat before the kicks so that probably helps too. I'd give it a try. Just get cast with bones bushings. Best truck setup I've had.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 17, 2020, 04:52:42 PM
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Stock is the best with a flat washer.
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Got some stocks headed your way tomorrow big dawg

Yes!!! You rule
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on June 17, 2020, 04:57:08 PM
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What decks have more ‘fingers of flat’?
Any that have longer tail/nose?

Skated a fa with 5.8s, doesn’t quite feel right, but the ollie was great. That board is just too dramatic for me.

I know primitive works for many, I’d prefer to get something a little less ....mainstream. As wack as that sounds.

Please and thanks.
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Hopps Visit Traffic... all these boards have been kind on the Manny pad. They all come from the same place I'm pretty sure.
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Anti hero 8.5 pigeon budgie board is perfect for venture 5.8. high standards. Almost 3 fingers of flat before the nose and tail and they're both longer than usual too. That's what I'm on and plan on getting extras.
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If it's the same deck as the krooked team eyes 8.5 it is a very fine combo with 5.6s as well
It most likely is. Dlx is my favorite for sure. I go back and forth between real, krooked, and AH.
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Post by: Ok on June 17, 2020, 05:20:06 PM
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What decks have more ‘fingers of flat’?
Any that have longer tail/nose?

Skated a fa with 5.8s, doesn’t quite feel right, but the ollie was great. That board is just too dramatic for me.

I know primitive works for many, I’d prefer to get something a little less ....mainstream. As wack as that sounds.

Please and thanks.
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Hopps Visit Traffic... all these boards have been kind on the Manny pad. They all come from the same place I'm pretty sure.
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Anti hero 8.5 pigeon budgie board is perfect for venture 5.8. high standards. Almost 3 fingers of flat before the nose and tail and they're both longer than usual too. That's what I'm on and plan on getting extras.
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If it's the same deck as the krooked team eyes 8.5 it is a very fine combo with 5.6s as well
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It most likely is. Dlx is my favorite for sure. I go back and forth between real, krooked, and AH.


Thanks all!! Really appreciated
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on June 17, 2020, 05:37:00 PM
haha damn, Ok- you got plenty of responses it seems but to add on...
i’m currently skating my 5.8s on a Real full SE 8.5. comes in at 32.2 long and with a 14.25wb. it was listed as 14.38 but definitely shorter. also has about 3 fingers of flat on tail and nose, maybe just under on the tail and spot on 3 for the nose actually
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on June 17, 2020, 06:21:03 PM
Has anyone had success on hockey/fa boards with Ventures? Im waiting on wheels to finish this setup, but I just put some 5.6s on it and I'm not sure how well the steep nose and tail will work with them. I dont straye from Venture so Im hoping it won't be too bad.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on June 17, 2020, 06:29:39 PM
Has anyone had success on hockey/fa boards with Ventures? Im waiting on wheels to finish this setup, but I just put some 5.6s on it and I'm not sure how well the steep nose and tail will work with them. I dont straye from Venture so Im hoping it won't be too bad.
They’re small WB boards. Just chunky square shapes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on June 17, 2020, 06:42:23 PM
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Has anyone had success on hockey/fa boards with Ventures? Im waiting on wheels to finish this setup, but I just put some 5.6s on it and I'm not sure how well the steep nose and tail will work with them. I dont straye from Venture so Im hoping it won't be too bad.
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They’re small WB boards. Just chunky square shapes.
I'm definitely digging the shape. I will be bummed if its awkward with Ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 17, 2020, 07:42:09 PM
Setup a few different boards over the past two weeks and swapped trucks across all of them (Vent/Thun/Tens/ML).

Apparently my time on Venture really got me feeling them, today oddly, after skating thunders for a few days, I put the vents on a 14.3 wb and it felt like old shoes, have to see how trick consistency is over time tho.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 17, 2020, 09:40:14 PM
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They gotta break. The plastic tops need to be cracked up

Stock is the best with a flat washer.
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Got some stocks headed your way tomorrow big dawg
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Yes!!! You rule
shit you love to see

Assflea  you are nearby me I’m down in Providence I got some extra bearings I’ll send your way i know you  said you always look for them to clean up and pass on
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chappers on June 18, 2020, 02:07:09 AM
i tried sifting through this thread and using the search function but i didnt get anything - do we have a definitive height for low cast and low forged? everywhere lists both as 48mm but surely theyre not the same. do forged come in at 47?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Slayer666 on June 18, 2020, 03:55:54 AM
So what’s up with the way the metal feels compared to thunder Indy or ace
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Post by: sadnocomply on June 18, 2020, 07:25:01 AM
So what’s up with the way the metal feels compared to thunder Indy or ace
it feels like metal
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 18, 2020, 07:59:04 AM
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They gotta break. The plastic tops need to be cracked up

Stock is the best with a flat washer.
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Got some stocks headed your way tomorrow big dawg
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Yes!!! You rule
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shit you love to see

Assflea  you are nearby me I’m down in Providence I got some extra bearings I’ll send your way i know you  said you always look for them to clean up and pass on

Most definitely interested. Most grateful I'll message
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Slayer666 on June 18, 2020, 08:46:43 AM
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So what’s up with the way the metal feels compared to thunder Indy or ace
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it feels like metal
well fuck now I’m definitely not buying a pair
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 18, 2020, 08:58:48 AM
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So what’s up with the way the metal feels compared to thunder Indy or ace
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it feels like metal
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To me, feels most similar to thunder. This has to be my bullshit, but venture have the hardest feeling metal, on concrete, to me. Ace would be the softest. Once you get going, get into the hanger it not nearly as different, so maybe it’s the shape of the hanger? Venture are dope, and really durable.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 18, 2020, 09:13:47 AM
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So what’s up with the way the metal feels compared to thunder Indy or ace
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it feels like metal
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To me, feels most similar to thunder. This has to be my bullshit, but venture have the hardest feeling metal, on concrete, to me. Ace would be the softest. Once you get going, get into the hanger it not nearly as different, so maybe it’s the shape of the hanger? Venture are dope, and really durable.

Agreed, Ventures definitely grind hard and bite back into the ledge, which some people might love or hate. Last pair of trucks I rode extensively were the Tensor Maglight, super soft and they glide across the ledge. The metal is so soft it feels like the ledge is slicing into the hanger.

Also, that pinch can't be beat, especially on the Lo versions, would love to try the 5.6 in a Lo.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on June 18, 2020, 12:03:14 PM
Anyone have experience with Hockey decks and venture los?

Wondering how the square shape and odd kicks interact with the ventures.

Thinking of getting this one and pairing with my 5.2 Los

• Width 8”
• Length 31.66”
• Wheelbase 14”

https://www.slamcity.com/products/hockey-8-donovon-piscopo-skull-kid-skateboard-deck-blue
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 18, 2020, 12:23:17 PM
Anyone have experience with Hockey decks and venture los?

Wondering how the square shape and odd kicks interact with the ventures.

Thinking of getting this one and pairing with my 5.2 Los

• Width 8”
• Length 31.66”
• Wheelbase 14”

https://www.slamcity.com/products/hockey-8-donovon-piscopo-skull-kid-skateboard-deck-blue


I haven’t had any of the newer stuff with venture lo’s. I had one of the split stains when it was ps, worked ok. For me, ventures work better when the board is less steep, and the fa/hockey stuff tends to be steep. I’m sure it’d be ok, fun, whatever.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on June 18, 2020, 01:15:11 PM
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it feels like metal
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well fuck now I’m definitely not buying a pair
nah grab a pair you won’t be disappointed, best switch I made to my skating in the past year. I was an indy guy, now I’m balls deep in 4 pairs of ventures and like 6 venture shirts. Best marketing with the OG 90’s logos
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on June 18, 2020, 02:36:59 PM
Anyone have experience with Hockey decks and venture los?

Wondering how the square shape and odd kicks interact with the ventures.

Thinking of getting this one and pairing with my 5.2 Los

• Width 8”
• Length 31.66”
• Wheelbase 14”

https://www.slamcity.com/products/hockey-8-donovon-piscopo-skull-kid-skateboard-deck-blue

i switched from Indy to Venture about a year ago and have rode 3 Quasi's in that time.  they all have big square-ish steep noses & i love how they feel.  admittedly it took me a minute to get used to nollie tricks, or really anything where i pop off the nose, but otherwise its been a great combo for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 18, 2020, 06:07:22 PM
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To me, feels most similar to thunder. This has to be my bullshit, but venture have the hardest feeling metal, on concrete, to me. Ace would be the softest. Once you get going, get into the hanger it not nearly as different, so maybe it’s the shape of the hanger? Venture are dope, and really durable.
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Agreed, Ventures definitely grind hard and bite back into the ledge, which some people might love or hate. Last pair of trucks I rode extensively were the Tensor Maglight, super soft and they glide across the ledge. The metal is so soft it feels like the ledge is slicing into the hanger.

Also, that pinch can't be beat, especially on the Lo versions, would love to try the 5.6 in a Lo.
Really liked the maglights I had last year but I 100 percent had a decent crook groove in a week.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on June 18, 2020, 07:21:55 PM
Anybody got a plug for some 5.8 tit’s? Can’t for the life of me find a pair online for around the retail price of US $75.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on June 18, 2020, 07:30:34 PM
 Come to think of it, I think there is a drought online stateside of hollows, titanium’s, and lights in either 5.6 or 5.8 currently.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on June 18, 2020, 07:36:54 PM
Anybody got a plug for some 5.8 tit’s? Can’t for the life of me find a pair online for around the retail price of US $75.

I swooped the last set on tri-star earlier today for 62 with a promo code. Took forever to find, hopefully they're more readily available next season. Even before this they weren't that easy to find.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 18, 2020, 08:19:55 PM
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Anybody got a plug for some 5.8 tit’s? Can’t for the life of me find a pair online for around the retail price of US $75.
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I swooped the last set on tri-star earlier today for 62 with a promo code. Took forever to find, hopefully they're more readily available next season. Even before this they weren't that easy to find.

35th has some showing on stock on their site. I’d probably be super stoked on the ti, in the 5.8: once trucks go past 8.25” it’s more of a struggle for me. I’ve got brand new 5.8 cast. Love the cast plate. Stoked on the trucks in general actually.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 18, 2020, 08:37:28 PM
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I swooped the last set on tri-star earlier today for 62 with a promo code. Took forever to find, hopefully they're more readily available next season. Even before this they weren't that easy to find.
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35th has some showing on stock on their site. I’d probably be super stoked on the ti, in the 5.8: once trucks go past 8.25” it’s more of a struggle for me. I’ve got brand new 5.8 cast. Love the cast plate. Stoked on the trucks in general actually.

Hear hear, vanilla 5.8 (the Worrest ones) are too heavy for my liking, my next setup is going to be 5.8 Ti.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 18, 2020, 08:39:57 PM
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I swooped the last set on tri-star earlier today for 62 with a promo code. Took forever to find, hopefully they're more readily available next season. Even before this they weren't that easy to find.
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35th has some showing on stock on their site. I’d probably be super stoked on the ti, in the 5.8: once trucks go past 8.25” it’s more of a struggle for me. I’ve got brand new 5.8 cast. Love the cast plate. Stoked on the trucks in general actually.
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Hear hear, vanilla 5.8 (the Worrest ones) are too heavy for my liking, my next setup is going to be 5.8 Ti.

Got the same Worrest ones. They beast. I’m just gonna try and muscle up. I think I’m going to try and find a bigger board actually. Heard the price point anti hero’s are flat.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on June 19, 2020, 04:29:46 AM
Anyone have experience with Hockey decks and venture los?

Wondering how the square shape and odd kicks interact with the ventures.

Thinking of getting this one and pairing with my 5.2 Los

• Width 8”
• Length 31.66”
• Wheelbase 14”

https://www.slamcity.com/products/hockey-8-donovon-piscopo-skull-kid-skateboard-deck-blue

Riding FA/Hockey decks with 5.2s, although high ones... loving them, but I'm trash, sooooo... just try?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on June 19, 2020, 06:02:58 AM

35th has some showing on stock on their site. I’d probably be super stoked on the ti, in the 5.8: once trucks go past 8.25” it’s more of a struggle for me. I’ve got brand new 5.8 cast. Love the cast plate. Stoked on the trucks in general actually.

Thanks friend!  I swooped a pair up. Now I've got a question about frankenstein-ing hangars and baseplates: 

SLAP advice and the covid got me slowly weaning off the Iron Cross: I currently ride 5.6 v-lights on my 8.12 primitive and worrest 5.8 casts on my 8.25 biz&co.  I think I recall reading not too far back that if I rode the v-lights hangars with the cast plates I'd have a shorter more responsive wheelbase? I got lazy and never messed around.  So now I'm getting these tit's; should I replace the gold plates with my 5.8 cast ones?  What would be the benefit?  Would I want to tap out the kingpins as well for the weight? 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on June 19, 2020, 06:08:46 AM
Also for the reason stated above this has become my most cherished thread on here.  I gotta say, I love the grind and loosey-goosey carve of Indy's, but ghost popping and instability of landing tricks at speed or wobbly loose feel on hills were a drawback.  With Ventures, I love not having to concentrate on the pop so much, and the stable, locked in pinching/carve has helped my balance in riding away from my tricks.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 19, 2020, 06:25:47 AM
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35th has some showing on stock on their site. I’d probably be super stoked on the ti, in the 5.8: once trucks go past 8.25” it’s more of a struggle for me. I’ve got brand new 5.8 cast. Love the cast plate. Stoked on the trucks in general actually.
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Thanks friend!  I swooped a pair up. Now I've got a question about frankenstein-ing hangars and baseplates: 

SLAP advice and the covid got me slowly weaning off the Iron Cross: I currently ride 5.6 v-lights on my 8.12 primitive and 5.8 casts on my biz&co.  I think I recall reading not too far back that if I rode the v-lights hangars with the cast plates I'd have a shorter more responsive wheelbase? I got lazy and never messed around.  So now I'm getting these tit's; should I replace the gold plates with my 5.8 cast ones?  What would be the benefit?  Would I want to tap out the kingpins as well for the weight?

Sick! supporting the good people!

Cast plates feel better to me, just used to em. Venture cast plates and solid kingpin are heavy, even my 5.0 lo’s feel heavy. I believe that the talk from the trucks/wb thread was cast extends the axle to axle +3.25”, and forged +3.5”, that’s from meme out and mine is shaky at best.
I’ve been in a more ‘make do’ mood, and have been just riding whatever. Sometimes it works, sometimes no. Still struggle with 360 flips when I ride a board that’s an otherwise more comfortable width. All to say, you can switch the stuff out, and sometimes keeping stuff as is leads to an adjustment that helps you. Im not sure why I’m writing this, as though it’s enlightening, it’s obvious stuff. Changing kingpins is a hassle, to me. If venture made a cast hollow, I’d buy it, maybe. All cast feel good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 19, 2020, 10:10:56 AM
Anybody got a plug for some 5.8 tit’s? Can’t for the life of me find a pair online for around the retail price of US $75.
Energy Skateshop had a decent selection on their we store a few weeks ago when I got the 5.6 prods. Full retail though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on June 19, 2020, 01:00:27 PM
For the recent who have been asking, I have been running 5.6 tit hangers with cast plates/kingpins. No problems whatsoever. In fact, this is the best truck combo I have ever had in my life. Basically the same height/weight (53.5mm tall & 330-335g per truck) as when I skated indy tits but dare I say better. More stability, better pinch, more kingpin clearance, feel better about DLX than NHS, etc.

Would 1000% try the 5.8 tits on cast if I ever see some around.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 19, 2020, 01:18:24 PM
For the recent who have been asking, I have been running 5.6 tit hangers with cast plates/kingpins. No problems whatsoever. In fact, this is the best truck combo I have ever had in my life. Basically the same height/weight (53.5mm tall & 330-335g per truck) as when I skated indy tits but dare I say better. More stability, better pinch, more kingpin clearance, feel better about DLX than NHS, etc.

Would 1000% try the 5.8 tits on cast if I ever see some around.
Running the same combo and can confirm. Ideal venture combo in my mind
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on June 19, 2020, 02:34:35 PM
What do you guys like better about the cast plates than the forged? I've asked this before I'm pretty sure but more opinions would be nice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 19, 2020, 02:57:08 PM
What do you guys like better about the cast plates than the forged? I've asked this before I'm pretty sure but more opinions would be nice.

For me it’s some weird, almost textural type shit: cast has a sound, and dampening quality, that feels more ‘solid’ to me. Which is, I believe, the opposite of the truth, as I’ve read that forged are supposedly stronger. Forged can sound ‘tinny’, cheap, rattle, although I notice this much more with thunder forged hollows (good truck, cast feel way better to me). The weight doesn’t bother me too much, and during grinds (where I am truly shit), the weight feels helpful.
Some people like the height of cast more, I do, but only with the lo’s, otherwise I don’t notice too much or care.
The forged extend the wheelbase more. I didn’t notice, my forged ventures are 8” and boards in that size don’t feel weird for me, unless I’m skating for around.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on June 19, 2020, 03:12:05 PM
What do you guys like better about the cast plates than the forged? I've asked this before I'm pretty sure but more opinions would be nice.

After riding forged baseplates (Indys, then Ventures) for over a year, I stepped on a deck I set up for a friend, with my older Indy standards. Felt super weird, kind of dull, dampened, didn't feel the deck+street as good. Maybe this is something that someone who is used to cast baseplates would say is an advantage.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 19, 2020, 07:20:29 PM
First session back from lockdown and I paired Venture 5.8 Titanium with a Primitive 8.25 x 31.875 x 14. Could be time off the board but the setup felt way too light and tippy. I had a 17.42" wheelbase which where I thought I liked it. The trip to the park took me 45 minutes (25 minutes by bus, 20 minutes walk), rained out in 15 minutes and I rolled my ankle slightly trying to force a kickflip before the rain started getting heavy.

Not ready to give up on this board yet so I'll switch out to some 5.6 V-Hollow, hopefully the added weight and slight WB extension make for a better session tomorrow. I had success with 1 8 x 32 x 14 setup with 5.2 V-Hollow Lo, I think there is a limit to how light trucks can get before they lose the heftiness that gives you a solid pop. 14.25 seems to preferred WB for most boards and with good reason.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on June 20, 2020, 06:21:33 AM
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For the recent who have been asking, I have been running 5.6 tit hangers with cast plates/kingpins. No problems whatsoever. In fact, this is the best truck combo I have ever had in my life. Basically the same height/weight (53.5mm tall & 330-335g per truck) as when I skated indy tits but dare I say better. More stability, better pinch, more kingpin clearance, feel better about DLX than NHS, etc.

Would 1000% try the 5.8 tits on cast if I ever see some around.
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Running the same combo and can confirm. Ideal venture combo in my mind

x3!  i’m on cast 5.8 plates and ti hangars. for me, this is the best feeling truck i’ve ever skated
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on June 20, 2020, 06:54:01 AM
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For the recent who have been asking, I have been running 5.6 tit hangers with cast plates/kingpins. No problems whatsoever. In fact, this is the best truck combo I have ever had in my life. Basically the same height/weight (53.5mm tall & 330-335g per truck) as when I skated indy tits but dare I say better. More stability, better pinch, more kingpin clearance, feel better about DLX than NHS, etc.

Would 1000% try the 5.8 tits on cast if I ever see some around.
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x3!  i’m on cast 5.8 plates and ti hangars. for me, this is the best feeling truck i’ve ever skated

Word is bond, y'all convinced me.  I'm gonna throw the Ti hangers on the casts. Sweet spot.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on June 20, 2020, 06:56:00 AM
Krux kingpins? 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on June 20, 2020, 12:08:21 PM
Anyone ride 5.8s on an 8.5 deck? Was curious if they would be too small?
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Post by: Junglist on June 20, 2020, 12:15:19 PM
Anyone ride 5.8s on an 8.5 deck? Was curious if they would be too small?
The correct size is too small?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on June 20, 2020, 12:21:53 PM
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The correct size is too small?

Alot of people tend to ride a wider truck than the deck. Like im riding 5.8s on an 8.25 and they feel fine. So was curious if a 6.1 would be better or if the 5.8s feel just right on an 8.5.   8)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
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Alot of people tend to ride a wider truck than the deck. Like im riding 5.8s on an 8.25 and they feel fine. So was curious if a 6.1 would be better or if the 5.8s feel just right on an 8.5.   8)
I feel you. I might be in the minority but I find a truck should be at max .25” wider than the board. I feel like you get less turn and more bite. 5.6’s on 8.25-8.38 feel great to me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: quarterpound on June 20, 2020, 03:44:42 PM
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For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.
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Christ does Revive make trucks now?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 20, 2020, 05:50:38 PM
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For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.
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Christ does Revive make trucks now?

Krux?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on June 20, 2020, 06:24:04 PM
Anyone ride 5.8s on an 8.5 deck? Was curious if they would be too small?
They feel good to me. Perfectly flush.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: AngryBlackMan on June 20, 2020, 07:12:19 PM
I’ve been having my own truck madness lately. Riding an 8.6 with at 14.5wb.  Tried Indy 169s, Ace 55s, and now I’m on some 5.8s and they feel pretty good.

I’m usually a wheels flush with the deck guy so if I do stick with venture I’ll pick up the 6.1s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 20, 2020, 08:02:32 PM
I’ve been having my own truck madness lately. Riding an 8.6 with at 14.5wb.  Tried Indy 169s, Ace 55s, and now I’m on some 5.8s and they feel pretty good.

I’m usually a wheels flush with the deck guy so if I do stick with venture I’ll pick up the 6.1s.

I was thinking about getting an 8.6ish, for my 5.8s: give me a little more leverage for flips and turns.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Live Fast Johnny on June 21, 2020, 07:27:10 AM
Anyone ride 5.8s on an 8.5 deck? Was curious if they would be too small?

For me they feel really good, especially the Hockey 8.5 shape.  However 5.8's on an 8.3 are some God level feeling that I want to run for a while.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jamersonbass on June 21, 2020, 11:28:08 AM
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For me they feel really good, especially the Hockey 8.5 shape.  However 5.8's on an 8.3 are some God level feeling that I want to run for a while.

This^  I'm running 3 setups at the moment.  The last one I setup is an 8.38 with 5.8's and it's the most Goldie Locks setup I've ever had.  Had I known, I never would of bothered with an 8.25 on 5.6's or an 8.5 on 6.1's (although this one is the second best feeling setup in my quiver).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 21, 2020, 03:59:46 PM
Anyone know of any shops who have the 5.6s lights or hollows? Going to make myself miserable for a session or two once my aces die.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Festivus on June 21, 2020, 04:39:43 PM
Anyone know of any shops who have the 5.6s lights or hollows?

Blacklist has 5.6 hollows http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/hardgoods/trucks/venture/polished-v-hollow-lite-pid-12392 (http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/hardgoods/trucks/venture/polished-v-hollow-lite-pid-12392)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 21, 2020, 04:59:35 PM
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Anyone know of any shops who have the 5.6s lights or hollows?
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Blacklist has 5.6 hollows http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/hardgoods/trucks/venture/polished-v-hollow-lite-pid-12392 (http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/hardgoods/trucks/venture/polished-v-hollow-lite-pid-12392)

Thanks, ordered. Going to make myself miserable when my aces hit axle.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 21, 2020, 05:26:07 PM
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Blacklist has 5.6 hollows http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/hardgoods/trucks/venture/polished-v-hollow-lite-pid-12392 (http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/hardgoods/trucks/venture/polished-v-hollow-lite-pid-12392)
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Thanks, ordered. Going to make myself miserable when my aces hit axle.

Ha. Damn. I just took aces off to put on ventures. Flopping back and forth. Not a fan of my deck, but it’s not breaking.
The 5.8s are a little too beast for me, but the ollie is great so....I’ll just stick with that.
Maybe the 5.6s will be the ones?!?!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chappers on June 22, 2020, 01:30:50 AM
anyone know any uk or euro shops that have the raw 5.2 standard lows in stock? cant find em anywhere online. one place has the thrasher collab but theyre a third more expensive than raws for no good reason and also cant get round that ugly thrvsher graphic
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 22, 2020, 04:02:13 AM
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Blacklist has 5.6 hollows http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/hardgoods/trucks/venture/polished-v-hollow-lite-pid-12392 (http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/hardgoods/trucks/venture/polished-v-hollow-lite-pid-12392)
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Thanks, ordered. Going to make myself miserable when my aces hit axle.
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Ha. Damn. I just took aces off to put on ventures. Flopping back and forth. Not a fan of my deck, but it’s not breaking.
The 5.8s are a little too beast for me, but the ollie is great so....I’ll just stick with that.

Maybe the 5.6s will be the ones?!?!

I feel you man, 5.8 (even Titanium) are way too big for me. I tried going 5.8 Titanium hanger with cast plate on a DLX 8.18 x 31.8 x 14.38 - stability was great but it was way too heavy for me. Thinking I'm going 8-8.125 and 5.6 trucks max, anything bigger is way more than I can handle.

It's hard finding that Goldilock combination - light and nimble enough to flick but hefty enough to give that solid pop and oomph with that magnetic board feel.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 22, 2020, 06:13:58 AM
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Anyone know of any shops who have the 5.6s lights or hollows?
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Blacklist has 5.6 hollows http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/hardgoods/trucks/venture/polished-v-hollow-lite-pid-12392 (http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/hardgoods/trucks/venture/polished-v-hollow-lite-pid-12392)
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Thanks, ordered. Going to make myself miserable when my aces hit axle.
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Ha. Damn. I just took aces off to put on ventures. Flopping back and forth. Not a fan of my deck, but it’s not breaking.
The 5.8s are a little too beast for me, but the ollie is great so....I’ll just stick with that.
Maybe the 5.6s will be the ones?!?!

IDK, that thread about your setup on your best day reminded me of how much time I've logged on Ventures. I got the hollows because of them being 52mm high, so at least the hight will be the same as my Aces. I've always been anti-8.25"-specific trucks because it feels nit picky but I keep going back to this 8.25" board after setting other things up so it must be a sign that I need to come off of it and try them. RIP to 3 months of not having truck madness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 22, 2020, 07:46:34 AM
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Blacklist has 5.6 hollows http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/hardgoods/trucks/venture/polished-v-hollow-lite-pid-12392 (http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/hardgoods/trucks/venture/polished-v-hollow-lite-pid-12392)
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Thanks, ordered. Going to make myself miserable when my aces hit axle.
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Ha. Damn. I just took aces off to put on ventures. Flopping back and forth. Not a fan of my deck, but it’s not breaking.
The 5.8s are a little too beast for me, but the ollie is great so....I’ll just stick with that.
Maybe the 5.6s will be the ones?!?!
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IDK, that thread about your setup on your best day reminded me of how much time I've logged on Ventures. I got the hollows because of them being 52mm high, so at least the hight will be the same as my Aces. I've always been anti-8.25"-specific trucks because it feels nit picky but I keep going back to this 8.25" board after setting other things up so it must be a sign that I need to come off of it and try them. RIP to 3 months of not having truck madness.


Hahaha! I’ve felt the exact same way about 8.25” trucks. And now....8.5” trucks super fuck with me being too big for my dustiness, and  8” trucks where my muscle memory feels more on point, just feel too small. Maybe the trucks don’t feel too small, but 8” boards have been feeling really wack for just skating and doing ollies over shit.
Hope it works for you.
I need to get some more 44s just in case
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 22, 2020, 11:01:25 AM
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Anyone ride 5.8s on an 8.5 deck? Was curious if they would be too small?
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For me they feel really good, especially the Hockey 8.5 shape.  However 5.8's on an 8.3 are some God level feeling that I want to run for a while.
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This^  I'm running 3 setups at the moment.  The last one I setup is an 8.38 with 5.8's and it's the most Goldie Locks setup I've ever had.  Had I known, I never would of bothered with an 8.25 on 5.6's or an 8.5 on 6.1's (although this one is the second best feeling setup in my quiver).

I'm currently running 3 as well:

8.2/147s  (it's a true 8.2")
8.25/5.6s
8.3/8.3s (true 8.3")

Trying to give thunders another go but I'm not feeling the deck shape...8.3s with 8.3 (ML/ACE) or 8.5"s are usually my goldilocks setups, but I find I can mimmick that with a fat 8.25 and 8.25 trucks (Ventures or thunders for that added stability/lower height). Lower truck height being the key factor (using 55mm trucks and smaller wheels does not net the same feeling).

Oddly I don't have a set of of 8.5/149s in my parts bin (just 8, 8.18, 8.25 and 8.75).


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Firebert on June 22, 2020, 11:21:10 AM

I'm currently running 3 as well:

8.2/147s  (it's a true 8.2")

147s are 8" no?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on June 22, 2020, 12:00:46 PM
Hoping a Venture nerd can help. My friend was gonna throw out his 5.0s so I took them off his hands, and as I was nerding out and comparing em to my 5.0 lo I noticed some differences. First his are a good bit higher (so I assume they’re Hi), and the baseplates have different fonts, his being more squished and mine pointy. Both are 2000s era I believe.

Mine vs the homies:
(https://i.imgur.com/4znGlqR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8A1vtiZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BqxADIz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tvCpITp.jpg)

Is it usual for Lo and Hi to have differences like this? Is one pair some China Ventures? What’s going on?

Apologies if the pics are huge, on mobile atm.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on June 22, 2020, 12:28:52 PM
Ive got a pair of standard cast Hi’s from about ‘97 and they have that font from the last baseplate.

Although the lack of double drilled holes make me think they’re off an even earlier set??
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on June 22, 2020, 12:29:55 PM
Wait no, probably later as it has the new splined kingpin rather than hex
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 22, 2020, 01:07:16 PM
Hoping a Venture nerd can help. My friend was gonna throw out his 5.0s so I took them off his hands, and as I was nerding out and comparing em to my 5.0 lo I noticed some differences. First his are a good bit higher (so I assume they’re Hi), and the baseplates have different fonts, his being more squished and mine pointy. Both are 2000s era I believe.

Mine vs the homies:
(https://i.imgur.com/4znGlqR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/8A1vtiZ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/BqxADIz.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/tvCpITp.jpg)

Is it usual for Lo and Hi to have differences like this? Is one pair some China Ventures? What’s going on?

Apologies if the pics are huge, on mobile atm.

Resized. The older ones are probably Streetcorner-era (pre-Dlx) ventures. Do they have a graphic on them? One of the easiest way to tell them apart is that on the older Streetcorner Ventures the printed-on "V" graphic goes against the v-shape cast into the front of the hanger.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on June 22, 2020, 01:26:27 PM
Resized. The older ones are probably Streetcorner-era (pre-Dlx) ventures. Do they have a graphic on them? One of the easiest way to tell them apart is that on the older Streetcorner Ventures the printed-on "V" graphic goes against the v-shape cast into the front of the hanger.

Both pairs have the red V graphic facing the same way, against the shaped cast.  (So that the V is pointing towards the hanger and away from the baseplate.)

(https://i.imgur.com/ABgRAYJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 22, 2020, 01:34:14 PM
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Resized. The older ones are probably Streetcorner-era (pre-Dlx) ventures. Do they have a graphic on them? One of the easiest way to tell them apart is that on the older Streetcorner Ventures the printed-on "V" graphic goes against the v-shape cast into the front of the hanger.
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Both pairs have the red V graphic facing the same way, against the shaped cast.  (So that the V is pointing towards the hanger and away from the baseplate.)

Thats wild. So definitely post-Dlx takeover.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 22, 2020, 01:45:40 PM
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I'm currently running 3 as well:

8.2/147s  (it's a true 8.2")

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yep
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on June 22, 2020, 03:17:36 PM
Wait no, probably later as it has the new splined kingpin rather than hex

What’s the difference between the two? Appreciate ya’ll input. And do you mean pre-DLX frozenindustries? Because the V goes against the cast? I included a pic on the previous page.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on June 22, 2020, 03:35:03 PM
Anybody else ever have the feeling of a setup being too light?
Just had three absolute trash days on an FA 8.18 + Venture Hi Titanium 5.2 and decided to put on the 5.6 Hi hollows, I bought since they were starting to sell out in almost all shops in europe. Took the bushings from the Tis and put them in the hollows and felt 2 things:
1. I'm way happier, right away. Leveling out ollies for example is so much easier...
2. For some weird reason, even though the white bushings from the Tis were the same height as the purple ones from the hollows, the hollows feel sooo (!!!) turny with the white (worn in) bushings.

Anybody can relate?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on June 22, 2020, 03:43:48 PM
Anybody else ever have the feeling of a setup being too light?
Just had three absolute trash days on an FA 8.18 + Venture Hi Titanium 5.2 and decided to put on the 5.6 Hi hollows, I bought since they were starting to sell out in almost all shops in europe. Took the bushings from the Tis and put them in the hollows and felt 2 things:
1. I'm way happier, right away. Leveling out ollies for example is so much easier...
2. For some weird reason, even though the white bushings from the Tis were the same height as the purple ones from the hollows, the hollows feel sooo (!!!) turny with the white (worn in) bushings.

Anybody can relate?

I didn't really notice the difference between the white and purple venture bushings.... its possible that the purple ones break in a bit faster (vague anecdotal experience) but besides that they feel the exact same to me.

I think there's definitely merit to the idea that a truck can be too light, especially if you're skating a board thats in the ~8inch territory. Once you go 8.5+ setup I feel like even if you have the lightest tensor mags on your board is probably gonna still be plenty hefty.

I went from skating some venture 5.8 titaniums to venture 5.8 vlights (forged plate, standard hanger) and I've been skating better (but thats almost certainly due to the fact that I've been skating more lately). Its definitely heavier just holding the board but I didn't notice the weight difference when skating much after maybe the first ten minutes.

Its definitely plausible. I guess it depends on what you're used to and also your board shape and dimensions. I can imagine a hypothetical set of all titanium Aces (which shrink the wheelbase a lot) feeling really anemic on a flat tail.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 22, 2020, 03:45:48 PM
Anybody else ever have the feeling of a setup being too light?
Just had three absolute trash days on an FA 8.18 + Venture Hi Titanium 5.2 and decided to put on the 5.6 Hi hollows, I bought since they were starting to sell out in almost all shops in europe. Took the bushings from the Tis and put them in the hollows and felt 2 things:
1. I'm way happier, right away. Leveling out ollies for example is so much easier...
2. For some weird reason, even though the white bushings from the Tis were the same height as the purple ones from the hollows, the hollows feel sooo (!!!) turny with the white (worn in) bushings.

Anybody can relate?

Yep. 8" Tensor Maglights on and 8.125 primitive deck (Primitive decks weigh the least out of every brand I've weighed, usually by a fair amount; it's actually quite shocking, what's even more so is dwindlws 'impact light' isn't light at all just lighter than a full impact ;), Bones V3s and shorties lights bolts, M80 grip, easily the lightest thing I've put together and didn't' like it at all, there wasn't enough heft to throw things around correctly; it was fine for manuals.

I've slowly been going back to 'hollow' on most brands, I don't need the TI unless it's on Indy. But I'd probably go with Team TIs with Thunder tho, they feel good and the weight difference between team hollows, once you're all setup is almost imperceptable.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 22, 2020, 03:47:02 PM
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Wait no, probably later as it has the new splined kingpin rather than hex
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What’s the difference between the two? Appreciate ya’ll input. And do you mean pre-DLX frozenindustries? Because the V goes against the cast? I included a pic on the previous page.

Oh I see now. Yeah, those are Streetcorner-made ventures for sure. IDK if they were poured in the USA then or what.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 22, 2020, 05:14:51 PM
I've always been partial to dark color stock bushings.

I feel darker holds heat making looser in warmer conditions.

I could be wrong because all after market stuff black is the hardest.

Also gleaming the cube quote
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 22, 2020, 05:18:18 PM
I've always been partial to dark color stock bushings.

I feel darker holds heat making looser in warmer conditions.

I could be wrong because all after market stuff black is the hardest.

Also gleaming the cube quote

Bones in blk are for sure softer (in and out of heat) but they also don't stiffen up like the wht bones if you don't ride them for a bit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 22, 2020, 09:25:19 PM
Anybody else ever have the feeling of a setup being too light?
Just had three absolute trash days on an FA 8.18 + Venture Hi Titanium 5.2 and decided to put on the 5.6 Hi hollows, I bought since they were starting to sell out in almost all shops in europe. Took the bushings from the Tis and put them in the hollows and felt 2 things:
1. I'm way happier, right away. Leveling out ollies for example is so much easier...
2. For some weird reason, even though the white bushings from the Tis were the same height as the purple ones from the hollows, the hollows feel sooo (!!!) turny with the white (worn in) bushings.

Anybody can relate?

Didn't mess around with bushing but I had a really shit Saturday session with a board that was too light. Primitive deck (8.25 x 31.8 x 14) paired with Venture 5.6 TI which I bought specifically for this setup. Short WB plus TI trucks made the board way too light and tippy. Every time I setup for a trick I felt like I was standing on a teeter totter, zero stability and I rolled my ankle because of this. 5.8 feels way bigger than I can handle, I'm limiting myself to 8-8.125 boards from now on.

Like Xen mentioned above I think TIs are great but not worth the price premium. Venture and Thunder hollows are  designed light enough unlike Indys which benefit much more from the weight savings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on June 23, 2020, 04:24:29 AM
thanks for all the responses!
so it's not just my ocd acting up, that the setup might have been too light.

only weird thing that i can't quite figure out is: the hollow 5.6 are soo squirly with the worn in Ti bushings, even though i tightened them up to the same tightness, judging by the kingpin nut. have to ride them way (!) tighter than the Tis. maybe i go back to the new stock bushings of the hollows, but i thought i could get around the shitty break in period.
well, as so often with skating: there is no way of cheating your way around putting in the time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on June 23, 2020, 10:59:06 AM
thanks for all the responses!
so it's not just my ocd acting up, that the setup might have been too light.

only weird thing that i can't quite figure out is: the hollow 5.6 are soo squirly with the worn in Ti bushings, even though i tightened them up to the same tightness, judging by the kingpin nut. have to ride them way (!) tighter than the Tis. maybe i go back to the new stock bushings of the hollows, but i thought i could get around the shitty break in period.
well, as so often with skating: there is no way of cheating your way around putting in the time.

Probably the new pivot cups
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on June 23, 2020, 11:07:22 AM
Just put deluxe supercush 97du in my 5.8s. just spent about 2 hrs on them and really liking them more than the stocks and the bones I just took out. Highly recommend for anyone who thinks the stocks are too soft.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 23, 2020, 11:24:10 AM
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thanks for all the responses!
so it's not just my ocd acting up, that the setup might have been too light.

only weird thing that i can't quite figure out is: the hollow 5.6 are soo squirly with the worn in Ti bushings, even though i tightened them up to the same tightness, judging by the kingpin nut. have to ride them way (!) tighter than the Tis. maybe i go back to the new stock bushings of the hollows, but i thought i could get around the shitty break in period.
well, as so often with skating: there is no way of cheating your way around putting in the time.
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Probably the new pivot cups


For some stupid reason I remember there being some blurb from ave where he said he switched just the new hanger onto the board, along with all of the ‘shrapnel’ (bushings and washers). The stupid part is I can’t imagine that it was ave talking about his setup, so I probably misremembered. Be real interested in what he actually rides. I’ve just assumed that everyone is on 149s, because that’s the most popular shit, but I dunno, he’s not that big. He and dill went from skating 7.75 looking boards with venture lo’s to indys and wider boards, but I don’t think they went 2 sizes up.
Any damn ways, moving the hanger and everything else over to the existing baseplate can help speed I the breaking in.
Me and my 5.8s are in a struggle. Green bushings aren’t breaking in as much as my recent purps. And I’m just too much of a buster to figure out the 8.5s. Probably need to size down to 5.6s, or use my 5.2s. Definitely need to find some boards with fingers of flat, like the most.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 23, 2020, 11:26:12 AM
Just put deluxe supercush 97du in my 5.8s. just spent about 2 hrs on them and really liking them more than the stocks and the bones I just took out. Highly recommend for anyone who thinks the stocks are too soft.
That the purple ones? I have the purples in now and the greens but the purple are working great for me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 23, 2020, 11:32:00 AM
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Just put deluxe supercush 97du in my 5.8s. just spent about 2 hrs on them and really liking them more than the stocks and the bones I just took out. Highly recommend for anyone who thinks the stocks are too soft.
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That the purple ones? I have the purples in now and the greens but the purple are working great for me
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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 23, 2020, 11:35:04 AM
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Just put deluxe supercush 97du in my 5.8s. just spent about 2 hrs on them and really liking them more than the stocks and the bones I just took out. Highly recommend for anyone who thinks the stocks are too soft.
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That the purple ones? I have the purples in now and the greens but the purple are working great for me
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Referring to the bushings, re: purple ones
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Junglist on June 23, 2020, 11:54:19 AM
I think dill still skates <8” boards, him and gino
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on June 23, 2020, 11:54:56 AM
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Just put deluxe supercush 97du in my 5.8s. just spent about 2 hrs on them and really liking them more than the stocks and the bones I just took out. Highly recommend for anyone who thinks the stocks are too soft.
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That the purple ones? I have the purples in now and the greens but the purple are working great for me
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Referring to the bushings, re: purple ones

Yup they're the purple 97s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 23, 2020, 12:29:16 PM
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Just put deluxe supercush 97du in my 5.8s. just spent about 2 hrs on them and really liking them more than the stocks and the bones I just took out. Highly recommend for anyone who thinks the stocks are too soft.
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That the purple ones? I have the purples in now and the greens but the purple are working great for me
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Referring to the bushings, re: purple ones
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Yup they're the purple 97s.
Love mine but the summer heat probably helped the break-in and turning
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on June 23, 2020, 01:00:05 PM

Probably the new pivot cups

that's probably it. got a shit ton of wax in them also, because the only thing i hate about them ventures, is the squuuuuueaky pivot cup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 23, 2020, 01:54:39 PM
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Probably the new pivot cups
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that's probably it. got a shit ton of wax in them also, because the only thing i hate about them ventures, is the squuuuuueaky pivot cup.

Riptides will solve your pivot cup issues!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 23, 2020, 01:55:10 PM
Just set up that raney anti hero that’s 31.3 long as a second setup to see if it works well with ventures.
5.2 with 53 classics. Kept the stocks in
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on June 23, 2020, 02:06:37 PM
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Probably the new pivot cups
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that's probably it. got a shit ton of wax in them also, because the only thing i hate about them ventures, is the squuuuuueaky pivot cup.
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Riptides will solve your pivot cup issues!

Couldn't find any in germany since somebody mentioned them on this thread some time ago, but I'm watching out for them, thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 23, 2020, 02:13:22 PM
CRACKED ICE are back in stock yes haha glad i waited

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-r4u0iz5/images/stencil/500x659/products/442/1372/RipTide_Sports_Indy_WFB_96a_Blue_Pivot_Cup_Cracked_Ice_and_Vert_Jungle__63258.1585613650.jpg?c=2)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 23, 2020, 02:27:02 PM
Just set up that raney anti hero that’s 31.3 long as a second setup to see if it works well with ventures.
5.2 with 53 classics. Kept the stocks in

Interested to hear how it go. I’ve got 5.2s, have it slapped together with some 56 conical fulls and it just looks dumb. I don’t need to struggle nearly as much when I skate 8” trucks....maybe I should learn from that.
Nah
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 23, 2020, 02:38:30 PM
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Just set up that raney anti hero that’s 31.3 long as a second setup to see if it works well with ventures.
5.2 with 53 classics. Kept the stocks in
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Interested to hear how it go. I’ve got 5.2s, have it slapped together with some 56 conical fulls and it just looks dumb. I don’t need to struggle nearly as much when I skate 8” trucks....maybe I should learn from that.
Nah
I’ll never change my ways on most things skate related. Only reason I didn’t put the 5.6’s on from my main setup is because I’m apprehensive about the ventures making the nose and tail too short. Should get out tonight so I’ll let you know
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on June 23, 2020, 02:39:55 PM
CRACKED ICE are back in stock yes haha glad i waited

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-r4u0iz5/images/stencil/500x659/products/442/1372/RipTide_Sports_Indy_WFB_96a_Blue_Pivot_Cup_Cracked_Ice_and_Vert_Jungle__63258.1585613650.jpg?c=2)
Love the cracked ice. Don’t need them but I sorta want to get them to replace the green ones but at this point that would be wayyy to indulgent and unnecessary considering the effort I would have to make.

Watch next week I’ll have ordered them though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on June 23, 2020, 05:06:52 PM
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Just put deluxe supercush 97du in my 5.8s. just spent about 2 hrs on them and really liking them more than the stocks and the bones I just took out. Highly recommend for anyone who thinks the stocks are too soft.
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That the purple ones? I have the purples in now and the greens but the purple are working great for me
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6.1
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Referring to the bushings, re: purple ones
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Yup they're the purple 97s.
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Love mine but the summer heat probably helped the break-in and turning

Yeah was really humid and hot in MD today. Was zero break in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
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Just put deluxe supercush 97du in my 5.8s. just spent about 2 hrs on them and really liking them more than the stocks and the bones I just took out. Highly recommend for anyone who thinks the stocks are too soft.
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That the purple ones? I have the purples in now and the greens but the purple are working great for me
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6.1
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Referring to the bushings, re: purple ones
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Yup they're the purple 97s.
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Love mine but the summer heat probably helped the break-in and turning
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Yeah was really humid and hot in MD today. Was zero break in.
Dude I’m also in MD. Got to the garage and the weather app said it was 78 but I made it an hour before i was over it. Don’t know what the real feel was but it was a hot one
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oneOone on June 24, 2020, 12:44:28 AM
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Probably the new pivot cups
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that's probably it. got a shit ton of wax in them also, because the only thing i hate about them ventures, is the squuuuuueaky pivot cup.
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Riptides will solve your pivot cup issues!
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Couldn't find any in germany since somebody mentioned them on this thread some time ago, but I'm watching out for them, thanks for the tip!

Concrete Wave has them, online as well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on June 24, 2020, 05:44:23 AM
I think dill still skates <8” boards, him and gino

I believe I read this also. BUT in Gino's latest stuff (61st st or whatever), that board looking like an 8"+? It's what I noticed the most
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 24, 2020, 05:54:02 AM
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I think dill still skates <8” boards, him and gino
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I believe I read this also. BUT in Gino's latest stuff (61st st or whatever), that board looking like an 8"+? It's what I noticed the most


Total guess: I think the older 3 skate just over 8”, with  trucks. That Gino clip that was/is on guy Mariano’s page, longer, cruising sidewalks, looks like the board is a bit bigger than the trucks.
On some super nerd shit: I think Gino was skating hollow hi’s in that last thing he put out for those shoes (The Clip someone snarkily/correctly called his ‘my war’). Gino is probably my favorite skater, I’ve looked at his setup too much.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on June 24, 2020, 05:55:15 AM
Also, since I am here, I keep pondering getting some 5.0 Lows (I ride 7.75s!) again. I ride Indy 99% of the time, although I have dabbled in Venture every few years. Going through my lame archive of own footage, I noticed that my "best" stuff, is all on Ventures. By "best" I mean, when the flip-of-the-board is involved. I find that pretty interesting. And as I age, I would like at least one last blast of decent flippery. And I will say that the flip of Indys feels more uh "floaty", which I have never really liked. I like the quick flip.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on June 24, 2020, 05:57:01 AM
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I think dill still skates <8” boards, him and gino
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I believe I read this also. BUT in Gino's latest stuff (61st st or whatever), that board looking like an 8"+? It's what I noticed the most
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Total guess: I think the older 3 skate just over 8”, with  trucks. That Gino clip that was/is on guy Mariano’s page, longer, cruising sidewalks, looks like the board is a bit bigger than the trucks.
On some super nerd shit: I think Gino was skating hollow hi’s in that last thing he put out for those shoes (The Clip someone snarkily/correctly called his ‘my war’). Gino is probably my favorite skater, I’ve looked at his setup too much.

Awesome, I wondered that as well, because I thought I saw purple bushings in there. I'm actually a huge fan of that video because it reminds me of where I am at too. In a sense, you grow up "with" these guys, so it feels familiar / similar.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 24, 2020, 06:09:17 AM
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I think dill still skates <8” boards, him and gino
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I believe I read this also. BUT in Gino's latest stuff (61st st or whatever), that board looking like an 8"+? It's what I noticed the most
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Total guess: I think the older 3 skate just over 8”, with  trucks. That Gino clip that was/is on guy Mariano’s page, longer, cruising sidewalks, looks like the board is a bit bigger than the trucks.
On some super nerd shit: I think Gino was skating hollow hi’s in that last thing he put out for those shoes (The Clip someone snarkily/correctly called his ‘my war’). Gino is probably my favorite skater, I’ve looked at his setup too much.
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Awesome, I wondered that as well, because I thought I saw purple bushings in there. I'm actually a huge fan of that video because it reminds me of where I am at too. In a sense, you grow up "with" these guys, so it feels familiar / similar.


Ahaha, yeah!
I can see why younger folks were skeptical, and especially in the context of him being revered. I was hyped, because I’m a fan. He skates so fast.
More pertinent to the thread ish, Gino’s boards were usually 7.9” ish, back when people skated their size more, I think. 5.2 lo’s, mostly. Another reminder for to skate a more regular (for me) size.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on June 24, 2020, 06:25:07 AM
I have that conflict on 5.0 vs 5.25. I ran the 5.0's, because at that time, I rode 7.5's! But up at 7.75-7.9, kind of a difference possibly? I admit, I freak out of my trucks are wider than the board.   

Also, the 360 ollie out of the curb cut was sick. My fave was the switch 180 manual. One of my favorite tricks. And one that I can not do on Indys. Venture have that stable setup and landing that I don't feel with Indy (or Thunder).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 24, 2020, 06:37:58 AM
I have that conflict on 5.0 vs 5.25. I ran the 5.0's, because at that time, I rode 7.5's! But up at 7.75-7.9, kind of a difference possibly? I admit, I freak out of my trucks are wider than the board.   

Also, the 360 ollie out of the curb cut was sick. My fave was the switch 180 manual. One of my favorite tricks. And one that I can not do on Indys. Venture have that stable setup and landing that I don't feel with Indy (or Thunder).

I stopped riding 7.75 because of truck size freak outs. I have hollow light 5.0 hi’s, won’t use them because they look so silly if wheels are bigger than 52, but everything is a breeze, board flips so easily.

129s take skill that I don’t have: tall and narrow. Real flippy, real tippy.

At this point, watching him haul ass and get smoked or naw is always going to be sick to me. Unapologetic stan
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on June 24, 2020, 07:46:41 AM
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I have that conflict on 5.0 vs 5.25. I ran the 5.0's, because at that time, I rode 7.5's! But up at 7.75-7.9, kind of a difference possibly? I admit, I freak out of my trucks are wider than the board.   

Also, the 360 ollie out of the curb cut was sick. My fave was the switch 180 manual. One of my favorite tricks. And one that I can not do on Indys. Venture have that stable setup and landing that I don't feel with Indy (or Thunder).
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I stopped riding 7.75 because of truck size freak outs. I have hollow light 5.0 hi’s, won’t use them because they look so silly if wheels are bigger than 52, but everything is a breeze, board flips so easily.

129s take skill that I don’t have: tall and narrow. Real flippy, real tippy.

At this point, watching him haul ass and get smoked or naw is always going to be sick to me. Unapologetic stan

I've never skated Venture Hi's. Visually, the way the lo's look... just look perfect to me. Bias: all of the old Girl/Choc footage when they all rode those. I ride 52's but usually wear them down to 50s and perfect. I dunno why I don't just buy 50's. You are right about the tippy for sure. I believe I just like to cruise on Indys, but street tricks, I prefer the Ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 24, 2020, 08:10:32 AM
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I have that conflict on 5.0 vs 5.25. I ran the 5.0's, because at that time, I rode 7.5's! But up at 7.75-7.9, kind of a difference possibly? I admit, I freak out of my trucks are wider than the board.   

Also, the 360 ollie out of the curb cut was sick. My fave was the switch 180 manual. One of my favorite tricks. And one that I can not do on Indys. Venture have that stable setup and landing that I don't feel with Indy (or Thunder).
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I stopped riding 7.75 because of truck size freak outs. I have hollow light 5.0 hi’s, won’t use them because they look so silly if wheels are bigger than 52, but everything is a breeze, board flips so easily.

129s take skill that I don’t have: tall and narrow. Real flippy, real tippy.

At this point, watching him haul ass and get smoked or naw is always going to be sick to me. Unapologetic stan
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I've never skated Venture Hi's. Visually, the way the lo's look... just look perfect to me. Bias: all of the old Girl/Choc footage when they all rode those. I ride 52's but usually wear them down to 50s and perfect. I dunno why I don't just buy 50's. You are right about the tippy for sure. I believe I just like to cruise on Indys, but street tricks, I prefer the Ventures

5.2 Lo all day, best trucks I've ridden in recent memory. Itching to ride the 5.2 Los again but I haven't setup an 8" board with a short enough WB in a while.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 24, 2020, 08:26:50 AM
5.2 lows are IMO the most aesthetically pleasing truck. Since 8" was big back in the day, I will occasionally try and convince myself to go back. My 11.5 shoes tend to say otherwise, along with he fact that I don't even flip my board that much.

As for the Gino thing, I swear there was an ad of his from around maybe 97/98 where he was skating highs. I don't remember if it was because they had blue bushing or anything like that, but for whatever reason it is burnt into my brain.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 24, 2020, 09:08:22 AM
Ace 33’s, and 5.2 lo’s are the two coolest looking, to me, followed by maybe some wide indys. Actually no, any photo of Phil Shao’s ventures are sick as fuck. The older venture hanger that was a little softer, more rounded in it’s lines looked amazing.


Dunno about Gino on hi’s back when, I never saw it. He had several photos with thunders.
Puleo.....another one of my most favorite skateboard styles, he had a venture ad back when where I thought maybe purple bushings, hi’s. I also remember having venture mids at one point. Late 90s, purple bushings. I’m bad with dates, I had them set up on a Jefferson Pang tiger balm graphic. I’ve honestly never been able to figure out what Puelo rides, size wise. In that video with Waylon I think he was on 5.2s, but....I’ve never seen any of these dudes in person, so I can’t tell how tall they are, or get too much perspective. I’ve for sure stared at photos too much, looking at gear. I miss that, photos....because I’m old. Got way off track. While I’m out here in deep left, I do need to mention that Puleo is rad, and deeply flawed. I’m generally ok with his contradictory views on spots and footage, and his graffiti ethos. The numerology stuff, crisis actors, “George” “Floyd” “Kobe” “33” “88” .....that stuff is difficult, to say the least.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on June 24, 2020, 09:23:08 AM
Ace 33’s, and 5.2 lo’s are the two coolest looking, to me, followed by maybe some wide indys. Actually no, any photo of Phil Shao’s ventures are sick as fuck. The older venture hanger that was a little softer, more rounded in it’s lines looked amazing.


Dunno about Gino on hi’s back when, I never saw it. He had several photos with thunders.
Puleo.....another one of my most favorite skateboard styles, he had a venture ad back when where I thought maybe purple bushings, hi’s. I also remember having venture mids at one point. Late 90s, purple bushings. I’m bad with dates, I had them set up on a Jefferson Pang tiger balm graphic. I’ve honestly never been able to figure out what Puelo rides, size wise. In that video with Waylon I think he was on 5.2s, but....I’ve never seen any of these dudes in person, so I can’t tell how tall they are, or get too much perspective. I’ve for sure stared at photos too much, looking at gear. I miss that, photos....because I’m old. Got way off track. While I’m out here in deep left, I do need to mention that Puleo is rad, and deeply flawed. I’m generally ok with his contradictory views on spots and footage, and his graffiti ethos. The numerology stuff, crisis actors, “George” “Floyd” “Kobe” “33” “88” .....that stuff is difficult, to say the least.

Wade Speyer's also. Wade is one of my favorites. He's tied with 10 others for first place.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 24, 2020, 09:38:37 AM
Ace 33’s, and 5.2 lo’s are the two coolest looking, to me, followed by maybe some wide indys. Actually no, any photo of Phil Shao’s ventures are sick as fuck. The older venture hanger that was a little softer, more rounded in it’s lines looked amazing.


Dunno about Gino on hi’s back when, I never saw it. He had several photos with thunders.
Puleo.....another one of my most favorite skateboard styles, he had a venture ad back when where I thought maybe purple bushings, hi’s. I also remember having venture mids at one point. Late 90s, purple bushings. I’m bad with dates, I had them set up on a Jefferson Pang tiger balm graphic. I’ve honestly never been able to figure out what Puelo rides, size wise. In that video with Waylon I think he was on 5.2s, but....I’ve never seen any of these dudes in person, so I can’t tell how tall they are, or get too much perspective. I’ve for sure stared at photos too much, looking at gear. I miss that, photos....because I’m old. Got way off track. While I’m out here in deep left, I do need to mention that Puleo is rad, and deeply flawed. I’m generally ok with his contradictory views on spots and footage, and his graffiti ethos. The numerology stuff, crisis actors, “George” “Floyd” “Kobe” “33” “88” .....that stuff is difficult, to say the least.

FWIW in his Nine Club Puleo says he skates a 7.75" (believe he mentioned it in his Bobshirt as well) and 50mm spits. I know in many of his pics it looks like he is skating 5.0 lows, but there could be 5.2s in there. Seems like someone who is pretty change-averse in terms of his gear.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 24, 2020, 09:54:38 AM
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Dunno about Gino on hi’s back when, I never saw it. He had several photos with thunders.
Puleo.....another one of my most favorite skateboard styles, he had a venture ad back when where I thought maybe purple bushings, hi’s. I also remember having venture mids at one point. Late 90s, purple bushings. I’m bad with dates, I had them set up on a Jefferson Pang tiger balm graphic. I’ve honestly never been able to figure out what Puelo rides, size wise. In that video with Waylon I think he was on 5.2s, but....I’ve never seen any of these dudes in person, so I can’t tell how tall they are, or get too much perspective. I’ve for sure stared at photos too much, looking at gear. I miss that, photos....because I’m old. Got way off track. While I’m out here in deep left, I do need to mention that Puleo is rad, and deeply flawed. I’m generally ok with his contradictory views on spots and footage, and his graffiti ethos. The numerology stuff, crisis actors, “George” “Floyd” “Kobe” “33” “88” .....that stuff is difficult, to say the least.
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FWIW in his Nine Club Puleo says he skates a 7.75" (believe he mentioned it in his Bobshirt as well) and 50mm spits. I know in many of his pics it looks like he is skating 5.0 lows, but there could be 5.2s in there. Seems like someone who is pretty change-averse in terms of his gear.


Thanks!!

Does not seem like someone down to change....

Definitely spared me going back and rewatching the 9 club, which in general drives me crazy because of how much they leave on the table. That 20 minute wheel loss story he tells is amazing.
How he’s able to skate such a small board/wheels, on the stuff he skates is dope, along with the af1s which feel buck to skate in
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Cthulhu! on June 24, 2020, 10:29:21 AM
If the board is a 7.75, the wheels are 50mm classics, then the Ventures look like, well I just can't quite seem to place it.

(https://i.imgur.com/kFnDARz.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 24, 2020, 10:31:13 AM
If the board is a 7.75, the wheels are 50mm classics, then the Ventures look like, well I just can't quite seem to place it.

(https://i.imgur.com/kFnDARz.jpg)


Yoooooo!
This is EXACTLY what I was thinking of! To me it looks like 5.2s, on an 8”.
Thanks for pulling this screen grab.
Those wheels used to be 50s maybe.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 24, 2020, 10:50:28 AM
Nice. Looks like 5.2 lows but it's hard to tell. Looks too wide for 5.0s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on June 24, 2020, 12:37:22 PM
Looks like an 8"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on June 24, 2020, 01:13:27 PM
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that's probably it. got a shit ton of wax in them also, because the only thing i hate about them ventures, is the squuuuuueaky pivot cup.
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Riptides will solve your pivot cup issues!
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Couldn't find any in germany since somebody mentioned them on this thread some time ago, but I'm watching out for them, thanks for the tip!
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Concrete Wave has them, online as well.

Awesome, thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SaucyDonuts on June 28, 2020, 06:46:00 AM
Has anyone skated the both team cast and forged Ti?

I really noticed how “tinny” it the Ti felt after I bought a pair of cast. I have 5.6 Ti and just bought 5.8 cast yesterday and on the first grind immediately felt the difference. I have to say I’m definitely sticking with my team cast trucks. They feel SO much better and I actually enjoy the weight. I ride 8.38 or an 8.5. Just depends what the local shop has in my wheelbase (14.25 or 14.38). I definitely noticed how to cast base changed and made the wheelbase shorter. The base is more of an Indy feel and the wheels are behind the base. The wheels were right in front of the Ti base and felt for like a thunder when doing slides. I used the same wheels I had on my Ti to test this and did a few slides.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on June 28, 2020, 08:17:47 AM
Has anyone tried the Riptide pivot cups for Ventures. Noticed my front pivot cup has a cut on the lip and wasn’t sure if I should swap them out before they get worse.
(Planning no switching the BP to a pair of 6.1s I have to keep them lighter)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 28, 2020, 09:02:51 AM
Has anyone skated the both team cast and forged Ti?

I really noticed how “tinny” it the Ti felt after I bought a pair of cast. I have 5.6 Ti and just bought 5.8 cast yesterday and on the first grind immediately felt the difference. I have to say I’m definitely sticking with my team cast trucks. They feel SO much better and I actually enjoy the weight. I ride 8.38 or an 8.5. Just depends what the local shop has in my wheelbase (14.25 or 14.38). I definitely noticed how to cast base changed and made the wheelbase shorter. The base is more of an Indy feel and the wheels are behind the base. The wheels were right in front of the Ti base and felt for like a thunder when doing slides. I used the same wheels I had on my Ti to test this and did a few slides.

Stop, I already have 5 pairs of Ventures (5.2 V-Hollow Lo, 5.2 V-Hollow Hi, 5.6 V-Hollow, 5.8, 5.8 Titanium). The last thing(s) I need are 5.2 and 5.6 Standards
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 28, 2020, 09:20:17 AM
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Has anyone skated the both team cast and forged Ti?

I really noticed how “tinny” it the Ti felt after I bought a pair of cast. I have 5.6 Ti and just bought 5.8 cast yesterday and on the first grind immediately felt the difference. I have to say I’m definitely sticking with my team cast trucks. They feel SO much better and I actually enjoy the weight. I ride 8.38 or an 8.5. Just depends what the local shop has in my wheelbase (14.25 or 14.38). I definitely noticed how to cast base changed and made the wheelbase shorter. The base is more of an Indy feel and the wheels are behind the base. The wheels were right in front of the Ti base and felt for like a thunder when doing slides. I used the same wheels I had on my Ti to test this and did a few slides.
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Stop, I already have 5 pairs of Ventures (5.2 V-Hollow Lo, 5.2 V-Hollow Hi, 5.6 V-Hollow, 5.8, 5.8 Titanium). The last thing(s) I need are 5.2 and 5.6 Standards


To my understanding any venture baseplate works with any venture hanger. You could swap around if you wanted to see an approximate feel.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SaucyDonuts on June 28, 2020, 12:14:06 PM
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Has anyone skated the both team cast and forged Ti?

I really noticed how “tinny” it the Ti felt after I bought a pair of cast. I have 5.6 Ti and just bought 5.8 cast yesterday and on the first grind immediately felt the difference. I have to say I’m definitely sticking with my team cast trucks. They feel SO much better and I actually enjoy the weight. I ride 8.38 or an 8.5. Just depends what the local shop has in my wheelbase (14.25 or 14.38). I definitely noticed how to cast base changed and made the wheelbase shorter. The base is more of an Indy feel and the wheels are behind the base. The wheels were right in front of the Ti base and felt for like a thunder when doing slides. I used the same wheels I had on my Ti to test this and did a few slides.
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Stop, I already have 5 pairs of Ventures (5.2 V-Hollow Lo, 5.2 V-Hollow Hi, 5.6 V-Hollow, 5.8, 5.8 Titanium). The last thing(s) I need are 5.2 and 5.6 Standards

Man I’m not making it up but you know how it is... everyone likes their setup differently. All I can say is that it’s 100% noticeable the difference in grind. I truly believe it’s the Ti hanger that gives the tinny feel. I probably won’t ever buy another set of Ti. The trade off is the weight though. I ride a 8.38 and rugged the 5.8 standard and boy I could tell it was heavier. I liked it a lot though. Crooks especially. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 28, 2020, 03:42:45 PM
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Has anyone skated the both team cast and forged Ti?

I really noticed how “tinny” it the Ti felt after I bought a pair of cast. I have 5.6 Ti and just bought 5.8 cast yesterday and on the first grind immediately felt the difference. I have to say I’m definitely sticking with my team cast trucks. They feel SO much better and I actually enjoy the weight. I ride 8.38 or an 8.5. Just depends what the local shop has in my wheelbase (14.25 or 14.38). I definitely noticed how to cast base changed and made the wheelbase shorter. The base is more of an Indy feel and the wheels are behind the base. The wheels were right in front of the Ti base and felt for like a thunder when doing slides. I used the same wheels I had on my Ti to test this and did a few slides.
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Stop, I already have 5 pairs of Ventures (5.2 V-Hollow Lo, 5.2 V-Hollow Hi, 5.6 V-Hollow, 5.8, 5.8 Titanium). The last thing(s) I need are 5.2 and 5.6 Standards
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Man I’m not making it up but you know how it is... everyone likes their setup differently. All I can say is that it’s 100% noticeable the difference in grind. I truly believe it’s the Ti hanger that gives the tinny feel. I probably won’t ever buy another set of Ti. The trade off is the weight though. I ride a 8.38 and rugged the 5.8 standard and boy I could tell it was heavier. I liked it a lot though. Crooks especially.

It totally does, especially on Thunders and Ventures; TI+forged plates is the tiniest reeling ever. It's why I've slowly gone back to cast or forged hollows or hollow-lites (and why MAG ATGs feel 'off' but I still like them). For sure 8.3+ you start to feel the heft of standard anything.

It's also why I am partial to ML trucks, light (better with krux pin), low and 8.375"

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Nicki on June 29, 2020, 05:43:45 AM
Ace 33’s, and 5.2 lo’s are the two coolest looking, to me, followed by maybe some wide indys. Actually no, any photo of Phil Shao’s ventures are sick as fuck. The older venture hanger that was a little softer, more rounded in it’s lines looked amazing.


Dunno about Gino on hi’s back when, I never saw it. He had several photos with thunders.
Puleo.....another one of my most favorite skateboard styles, he had a venture ad back when where I thought maybe purple bushings, hi’s. I also remember having venture mids at one point. Late 90s, purple bushings. I’m bad with dates, I had them set up on a Jefferson Pang tiger balm graphic. I’ve honestly never been able to figure out what Puelo rides, size wise. In that video with Waylon I think he was on 5.2s, but....I’ve never seen any of these dudes in person, so I can’t tell how tall they are, or get too much perspective. I’ve for sure stared at photos too much, looking at gear. I miss that, photos....because I’m old. Got way off track. While I’m out here in deep left, I do need to mention that Puleo is rad, and deeply flawed. I’m generally ok with his contradictory views on spots and footage, and his graffiti ethos. The numerology stuff, crisis actors, “George” “Floyd” “Kobe” “33” “88” .....that stuff is difficult, to say the least.

For me, best Gino is Snuff which is all Thunders. HOWEVER, the closest thing in 2020 to ‘93/94 Thunders in terms of height, wheelbase, geometry are not the Team Thunders, but actually Venture Hi’s (with Lo’s also very similar just obvs a bit lower). Definitely the way to go replicate the setup of the early/mid 90s Thunder riders like Gino, Dill, Scott Johnston etc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6l1g255U9tE

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shmazz on June 29, 2020, 09:09:30 AM
I’ve been skating 5.6 lights on my 8.25 FA deck for the past ten days or so and I’m loving them so far. I’ve only tighten them a couple of times (skating about two hours a day) and I ride them medium-loose. Solid turn, and although they do feel sturdier than my last set of trucks (Hysteria 147s, a Chinese made truck that sort of looks like a Thunder yet is 55mm tall) I like the pop feel on the 5.6s better. Parks are still closed around here, but slappies feel great once you wear the hanger down a little bit.  :D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on June 29, 2020, 10:35:27 AM
Are trucks out of stock everywhere? Can't find regular Lo 5.0s at my local or any of my usual online spots.
Seen em on a few sites for way more than usual but no thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 29, 2020, 10:42:02 AM
Are trucks out of stock everywhere? Can't find regular Lo 5.0s at my local or any of my usual online spots.
Seen em on a few sites for way more than usual but no thanks

DLX trucks are for sure (Thunders are all but extinct except for old stock and shit colorways in 149, and even then)...Looks like shops got a NHS stock tho (indy/krux/ricta are in full swing at least online); also the new pruple raw/red Aces are popping up.

I don't feel so guilty about have some some stock on hand now :P
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 29, 2020, 10:45:28 AM
Are trucks out of stock everywhere? Can't find regular Lo 5.0s at my local or any of my usual online spots.
Seen em on a few sites for way more than usual but no thanks

https://www.paradeworld.com/products/venture-polished-low-90-4493051232310/ (https://www.paradeworld.com/products/venture-polished-low-90-4493051232310/)

They have 5.0 Lows, and then another shop on Parade as 5.25 lows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Junglist on June 29, 2020, 12:39:28 PM
Pretty sure 5.0 low raws are $38 on 35th ave’s website
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FredGallsBallz on June 29, 2020, 12:57:03 PM
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Are trucks out of stock everywhere? Can't find regular Lo 5.0s at my local or any of my usual online spots.
Seen em on a few sites for way more than usual but no thanks
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DLX trucks are for sure (Thunders are all but extinct except for old stock and shit colorways in 149, and even then)...Looks like shops got a NHS stock tho (indy/krux/ricta are in full swing at least online); also the new pruple raw/red Aces are popping up.

I don't feel so guilty about have some some stock on hand now :P

Are pros getting their usual supply from DLX? I'd think that DLX would rather sell the stock they have rather than hand it away. Anyone have the inside scoop on this?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on June 29, 2020, 04:39:51 PM
couldn't find where it said Low or high on my truck ... finally found it

(https://imgur.com/CuZNVAtl.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wafools on June 29, 2020, 04:40:10 PM
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Are trucks out of stock everywhere? Can't find regular Lo 5.0s at my local or any of my usual online spots.
Seen em on a few sites for way more than usual but no thanks
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DLX trucks are for sure (Thunders are all but extinct except for old stock and shit colorways in 149, and even then)...Looks like shops got a NHS stock tho (indy/krux/ricta are in full swing at least online); also the new pruple raw/red Aces are popping up.

I don't feel so guilty about have some some stock on hand now :P
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Are pros getting their usual supply from DLX? I'd think that DLX would rather sell the stock they have rather than hand it away. Anyone have the inside scoop on this?


I heard that the inventory is all fucked up. Because of the shut down ermico has been shut down so trucks are limited. I also heard the spit factory in Mexico for shut down because they got hit with the rona. I just saw a friend who works in the warehouse and he said that things were “normal”. They just have a limited number of people shipping things so it might be slower, but I did hear that they shut their b2b, the whole sale website for shops down so no new orders are coming through. So who knows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 29, 2020, 04:51:15 PM
couldn't find where it said Low or high on my truck ... finally found it

(https://imgur.com/CuZNVAtl.jpg)

Sick. This whole convo got me to (re)buy some 5.2 lows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CaderSk8r on June 29, 2020, 05:09:28 PM
Does anyone have an extra set of venture Hi bushings I could buy off of them? Preferably Purple Green or Red. Those damn washers chewed up my bushings and they split in half. Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ol Nick on June 29, 2020, 06:53:57 PM
Does anyone have an extra set of venture Hi bushings I could buy off of them? Preferably Purple Green or Red. Those damn washers chewed up my bushings and they split in half. Thanks!

Looks like Plus has clear, orange, and purple:

 https://plusskateshop.com/products/deluxe-supercush-bushings?_pos=1&_sid=84601f7ed&_ss=r&variant=5006002192415 (https://plusskateshop.com/products/deluxe-supercush-bushings?_pos=1&_sid=84601f7ed&_ss=r&variant=5006002192415)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CaderSk8r on June 29, 2020, 08:34:00 PM
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Does anyone have an extra set of venture Hi bushings I could buy off of them? Preferably Purple Green or Red. Those damn washers chewed up my bushings and they split in half. Thanks!
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Looks like Plus has clear, orange, and purple:

 https://plusskateshop.com/products/deluxe-supercush-bushings?_pos=1&_sid=84601f7ed&_ss=r&variant=5006002192415 (https://plusskateshop.com/products/deluxe-supercush-bushings?_pos=1&_sid=84601f7ed&_ss=r&variant=5006002192415)
Thank you!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 29, 2020, 09:36:08 PM
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couldn't find where it said Low or high on my truck ... finally found it

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Sick. This whole convo got me to (re)buy some 5.2 lows.

Lows are nice when I’m feeling mellow/dusty, I feel like I don’t have to try as hard. Which is nice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 30, 2020, 06:23:46 AM
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couldn't find where it said Low or high on my truck ... finally found it

(https://imgur.com/CuZNVAtl.jpg)
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Sick. This whole convo got me to (re)buy some 5.2 lows.
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Lows are nice when I’m feeling mellow/dusty, I feel like I don’t have to try as hard. Which is nice.

I was skating some 5.2 v-hollow lows last spring and it was wild. I could flip my board better than normal but my Ollies looked extra bad. I am going to keep them on ice for when I find a steeper board that I like the looks of.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 30, 2020, 06:49:00 AM
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couldn't find where it said Low or high on my truck ... finally found it

(https://imgur.com/CuZNVAtl.jpg)
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Sick. This whole convo got me to (re)buy some 5.2 lows.
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Lows are nice when I’m feeling mellow/dusty, I feel like I don’t have to try as hard. Which is nice.
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I was skating some 5.2 v-hollow lows last spring and it was wild. I could flip my board better than normal but my Ollies looked extra bad. I am going to keep them on ice for when I find a steeper board that I like the looks of.

Huh, same experience today with my 5.2 V-Hollow and mellower Element deck. I had to position my foot at the tip of my tail to get that same snap on my kickflips.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jamersonbass on June 30, 2020, 04:56:20 PM
Shouts to the guy who posted that Riptide restocked the cracked blue.

I've put Riptides in Indy's before and loved them.  Needless to say they were great out of the gate in my 5.8's.  I bought 3 sets and will through these in my 5.6's and 6.1's later.  No snake-oil, to me these are a better upgrade than aftermarket bushings, so long as you're skating a truck with decent stock bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 30, 2020, 05:08:53 PM
Shouts to the guy who posted that Riptide restocked the cracked blue.

I've put Riptides in Indy's before and loved them.  Needless to say they were great out of the gate in my 5.8's.  I bought 3 sets and will through these in my 5.6's and 6.1's later.  No snake-oil, to me these are a better upgrade than aftermarket bushings, so long as you're skating a truck with decent stock bushings.
hi!

Yeah I threw the cracked ice in my 6.1. Carve like a bastard now haha
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 30, 2020, 05:14:01 PM
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couldn't find where it said Low or high on my truck ... finally found it

(https://imgur.com/CuZNVAtl.jpg)
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Sick. This whole convo got me to (re)buy some 5.2 lows.
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Lows are nice when I’m feeling mellow/dusty, I feel like I don’t have to try as hard. Which is nice.
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I was skating some 5.2 v-hollow lows last spring and it was wild. I could flip my board better than normal but my Ollies looked extra bad. I am going to keep them on ice for when I find a steeper board that I like the looks of.
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Huh, same experience today with my 5.2 V-Hollow and mellower Element deck. I had to position my foot at the tip of my tail to get that same snap on my kickflips.

Yeah, though around the same time I had an 8" habitat with some 5.0 low standard. Shit had pop but the discrepancy between the board and trucks was a no go. I just think the lows need a steeper kick.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jamersonbass on June 30, 2020, 05:21:10 PM
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Shouts to the guy who posted that Riptide restocked the cracked blue.

I've put Riptides in Indy's before and loved them.  Needless to say they were great out of the gate in my 5.8's.  I bought 3 sets and will through these in my 5.6's and 6.1's later.  No snake-oil, to me these are a better upgrade than aftermarket bushings, so long as you're skating a truck with decent stock bushings.
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hi!

Yeah I threw the cracked ice in my 6.1. Carve like a bastard now haha

Too lazy to search farther back into the thread, but if it was you, thanks!  I feel like my 6.1's will be ridiculously good when I throw them in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 30, 2020, 06:42:12 PM
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Shouts to the guy who posted that Riptide restocked the cracked blue.

I've put Riptides in Indy's before and loved them.  Needless to say they were great out of the gate in my 5.8's.  I bought 3 sets and will through these in my 5.6's and 6.1's later.  No snake-oil, to me these are a better upgrade than aftermarket bushings, so long as you're skating a truck with decent stock bushings.
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hi!

Yeah I threw the cracked ice in my 6.1. Carve like a bastard now haha
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Too lazy to search farther back into the thread, but if it was you, thanks!  I feel like my 6.1's will be ridiculously good when I throw them in.
all good! Yeah they’re the only trucks I want to ride. I’m a taller dude so I threw 97a bushings in mine too. Prob could go a step down but still so nice in the summer heat, they soften up.

CRACKED ICE are back in stock yes haha glad i waited

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-r4u0iz5/images/stencil/500x659/products/442/1372/RipTide_Sports_Indy_WFB_96a_Blue_Pivot_Cup_Cracked_Ice_and_Vert_Jungle__63258.1585613650.jpg?c=2)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 30, 2020, 07:01:57 PM
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couldn't find where it said Low or high on my truck ... finally found it

(https://imgur.com/CuZNVAtl.jpg)
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Sick. This whole convo got me to (re)buy some 5.2 lows.
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Lows are nice when I’m feeling mellow/dusty, I feel like I don’t have to try as hard. Which is nice.
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I was skating some 5.2 v-hollow lows last spring and it was wild. I could flip my board better than normal but my Ollies looked extra bad. I am going to keep them on ice for when I find a steeper board that I like the looks of.
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Huh, same experience today with my 5.2 V-Hollow and mellower Element deck. I had to position my foot at the tip of my tail to get that same snap on my kickflips.
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Yeah, though around the same time I had an 8" habitat with some 5.0 low standard. Shit had pop but the discrepancy between the board and trucks was a no go. I just think the lows need a steeper kick.

8” on 5.0 seems like a fun time. Maybe that’s how I’ll bridge back to riding smaller sizes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on July 02, 2020, 06:45:04 PM
Anyone know where I can get 5.2 low hollows? I have a problem.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on July 02, 2020, 07:31:54 PM
Skate America should have a few gross colors of those^

Polished is the way though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on July 02, 2020, 08:32:39 PM
I am getting some 5.6 as soon as they are available again.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 02, 2020, 10:54:57 PM
Skate America should have a few gross colors of those^

Polished is the way though

They only have 5.0 in stock. Trying to get rid of a pair of 5.2 V-Light Hi, housekeeping to keep the gear madness in check.

I am getting some 5.6 as soon as they are available again.

5.6 Lo would be a dream truck
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on July 02, 2020, 11:29:32 PM
Hollow top, cast baseplate.....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jamersonbass on July 03, 2020, 08:42:12 AM
I am getting some 5.6 as soon as they are available again.

I'm pretty sure thepremierstore.com has those in stock as well as some other sizes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on July 03, 2020, 02:42:03 PM
Does anyone have any issues with ventures squeaking/clicking after the pivot cup hole deforms a bit becoming a bit oval? I skate the forged plates and do a LOT of nose and tailslides, and I think its pushing the baseplate in and making the pivot cup not perfectly round... maybe causing some issues.

My friend who also does a lot of nose and tailslides on his cast plates just slides through the baseplates and exposes his pivot cup, its crazy half his pivot cup is just poking out but at least its not deformed... maybe the metal of the forged plates doesn't fully slide through but will push into the pivot hole more?? I've swapped out the pivot cups I had in there (riptides) for new stock ones, not really helping.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on July 06, 2020, 03:54:06 PM
I know this is (kind of) common knowledge, but someone from DLX confirmed for me that all venture baseplates are interchangeable between hi and lo. I've assumed it was true but can now switch them around with peace of mind.

Said source also told me no 5.6 lo coming anytime soon, which is a number but understandable
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on July 06, 2020, 05:18:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pa_WqhYEF8
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shmazz on July 06, 2020, 05:48:27 PM
I’ve been skating 5.6 lights on my 8.25 FA deck for the past ten days or so and I’m loving them so far. I’ve only tighten them a couple of times (skating about two hours a day) and I ride them medium-loose. Solid turn, and although they do feel sturdier than my last set of trucks (Hysteria 147s, a Chinese made truck that sort of looks like a Thunder yet is 55mm tall) I like the pop feel on the 5.6s better. Parks are still closed around here, but slappies feel great once you wear the hanger down a little bit.  :D

Never mind, one of the top bushings just snapped lol. I’m not a heavy guy and my trucks are not tight by any definition so yeah, I’m pretty bummed about that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on July 06, 2020, 06:43:29 PM
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I’ve been skating 5.6 lights on my 8.25 FA deck for the past ten days or so and I’m loving them so far. I’ve only tighten them a couple of times (skating about two hours a day) and I ride them medium-loose. Solid turn, and although they do feel sturdier than my last set of trucks (Hysteria 147s, a Chinese made truck that sort of looks like a Thunder yet is 55mm tall) I like the pop feel on the 5.6s better. Parks are still closed around here, but slappies feel great once you wear the hanger down a little bit.  :D
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Never mind, one of the top bushings just snapped lol. I’m not a heavy guy and my trucks are not tight by any definition so yeah, I’m pretty bummed about that.

Stock or bones or????
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 06, 2020, 07:13:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pa_WqhYEF8

I really have been enjoying the 5.6 V-Hollow (I got mine from you Xen). Wish they were a little lower like the 5.2 Lo but the wheelbite was getting annoying on them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on July 06, 2020, 09:37:12 PM
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I really have been enjoying the 5.6 V-Hollow (I got mine from you Xen). Wish they were a little lower like the 5.2 Lo but the wheelbite was getting annoying on them.

I put in some 88a deluxe bait and tackle (clear) bushing in Ti 5.6s with those flat  array machined sleeved washers; they're working well. I'm just stuck in the madness of venture stability and height and Tensor ATG everything else...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 06, 2020, 10:19:28 PM
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I really have been enjoying the 5.6 V-Hollow (I got mine from you Xen). Wish they were a little lower like the 5.2 Lo but the wheelbite was getting annoying on them.
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I put in some 88a deluxe bait and tackle (clear) bushing in Ti 5.6s with those flat  array machined sleeved washers; they're working well. I'm just stuck in the madness of venture stability and height and Tensor ATG everything else...

Has the bushing swap helped with wheelbite?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on July 07, 2020, 08:09:56 AM
Finally pulled the trigger on some 5.0 Lows (I ride under 8"). Pretty excited to get that low feel again. I am hoping this will help me re-gain some flip tricks as I don't feel as "flippy" on Indys. I've said for years that the stability of Ventures is something I feel a lack of in Indy and Thunder.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on July 07, 2020, 09:29:08 AM
Just set up some 5.2 lows with some old green supercush 94s. I know everyone says that they lows and highs use the same bushings, but I swear the stock barrel of the lows is like 2-3mm shorter so I sanded mine down.

There are other trucks out there (Ace) that I really enjoy but every time I have some regular cast Venture lows I just feel at home.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on July 07, 2020, 10:49:50 AM
Finally pulled the trigger on some 5.0 Lows (I ride under 8"). Pretty excited to get that low feel again. I am hoping this will help me re-gain some flip tricks as I don't feel as "flippy" on Indys. I've said for years that the stability of Ventures is something I feel a lack of in Indy and Thunder.

You won't be disappointed. I went down to 7.875 and 5.2 lows from Indy. Flip tricks are a dream now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on July 07, 2020, 11:39:50 AM
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I really have been enjoying the 5.6 V-Hollow (I got mine from you Xen). Wish they were a little lower like the 5.2 Lo but the wheelbite was getting annoying on them.
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I put in some 88a deluxe bait and tackle (clear) bushing in Ti 5.6s with those flat  array machined sleeved washers; they're working well. I'm just stuck in the madness of venture stability and height and Tensor ATG everything else...
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Has the bushing swap helped with wheelbite?

Nope. I get wheelbite not matter what bushing, or truck, I ride. I like'em loose (not rattly loose).

Being they are 88a, they're softer than stock (by a duro or two). I'd say the quality of bushing is better? and the sleeved washers (like bones) are a bit snappier on return than without them.

Harder bushings or tighter/taller trucks are the only ways to fix wheelbite.

Definitely prefer barrels in Ventures as conicals get them tippy feeling like I always need to re-balance to get them to stay center.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 07, 2020, 03:02:57 PM
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I really have been enjoying the 5.6 V-Hollow (I got mine from you Xen). Wish they were a little lower like the 5.2 Lo but the wheelbite was getting annoying on them.
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I put in some 88a deluxe bait and tackle (clear) bushing in Ti 5.6s with those flat  array machined sleeved washers; they're working well. I'm just stuck in the madness of venture stability and height and Tensor ATG everything else...
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Has the bushing swap helped with wheelbite?
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Nope. I get wheelbite not matter what bushing, or truck, I ride. I like'em loose (not rattly loose).

Being they are 88a, they're softer than stock (by a duro or two). I'd say the quality of bushing is better? and the sleeved washers (like bones) are a bit snappier on return than without them.

Harder bushings or tighter/taller trucks are the only ways to fix wheelbite.

Definitely prefer barrels in Ventures as conicals get them tippy feeling like I always need to re-balance to get them to stay center.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on July 07, 2020, 08:10:34 PM
I have some venture v litght 5.0 lows with the red v on the hanger and purple bushings if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on July 07, 2020, 08:43:46 PM
I have some venture v litght 5.0 lows with the red v on the hanger and purple bushings if anyone is interested.

Interested
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on July 07, 2020, 09:20:57 PM
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Interested
They aren't new but they are broken in and are in good shape. Dm me on Instagram tomorrow and I'll send you pictures. I'm bout to go to bed now or I'd send them tonight. @matthew._.lane
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on July 08, 2020, 01:12:54 PM
maybe somebody got input on this:

since i wanted to up the size of my decks again, i swapped my broken in bushings from my 5.2 his to my new 5.6 his. loved it for two weeks, but having a hard time now. they feel really tippy or unstable, when i try to ride them looser, when i tighten them up i can't really turn with one foot while pushing... the "sweet spot" is not there anymore. so bummed. even fucks with my pop. maybe it just takes another week of getting used to it (adjusting to the "tippier" feel), but i'm annoyed and start to doubt everything.

anyway, i should just skate and get over it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on July 08, 2020, 03:29:40 PM
maybe somebody got input on this:

since i wanted to up the size of my decks again, i swapped my broken in bushings from my 5.2 his to my new 5.6 his. loved it for two weeks, but having a hard time now. they feel really tippy or unstable, when i try to ride them looser, when i tighten them up i can't really turn with one foot while pushing... the "sweet spot" is not there anymore. so bummed. even fucks with my pop. maybe it just takes another week of getting used to it (adjusting to the "tippier" feel), but i'm annoyed and start to doubt everything.

anyway, i should just skate and get over it.

The size difference affects turning. You may have to spend a bit more time skating to get used to the new turning and reaching the good spot.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JB77 on July 09, 2020, 04:03:27 AM
Bought some 5.0 highs recently and if I line them up axle to axle with my Reynolds Hollow Indy 139’s they are exactly the same height. 

This chart says the 139 standard is 1.5mm taller than the Venture 5.0 high.  Maybe my eye can’t discern that slight difference, but the Ventures actually “feel” a little taller and tippy-er to me.  Does that make sense?  Of course, the width also makes a difference. 

Question is this: shave down the bushings a little?  Replace the stock bushings in the Ventures?  Looking for recommendations on how to modify these Ventures for more stability without cranking down the kingpin nut too much.  Thanks!
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4ddfvtw/C3-CCEECA-A392-478-A-8-B75-83-C966-A0-F677.png)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 09, 2020, 05:55:37 AM
Bought some 5.0 highs recently and if I line them up axle to axle with my Reynolds Hollow Indy 139’s they are exactly the same height. 

This chart says the 139 standard is 1.5mm taller than the Venture 5.0 high.  Maybe my eye can’t discern that slight difference, but the Ventures actually “feel” a little taller and tippy-er to me.  Does that make sense?  Of course, the width also makes a difference. 

Question is this: shave down the bushings a little?  Replace the stock bushings in the Ventures?  Looking for recommendations on how to modify these Ventures for more stability without cranking down the kingpin nut too much.  Thanks!
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4ddfvtw/C3-CCEECA-A392-478-A-8-B75-83-C966-A0-F677.png)

Dxl Super crush bait and tackle. Green 94a purple 97a
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on July 09, 2020, 06:19:52 AM
Keep it simple and just ride smaller wheels with them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JB77 on July 09, 2020, 06:24:20 AM
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Bought some 5.0 highs recently and if I line them up axle to axle with my Reynolds Hollow Indy 139’s they are exactly the same height. 

This chart says the 139 standard is 1.5mm taller than the Venture 5.0 high.  Maybe my eye can’t discern that slight difference, but the Ventures actually “feel” a little taller and tippy-er to me.  Does that make sense?  Of course, the width also makes a difference. 

Question is this: shave down the bushings a little?  Replace the stock bushings in the Ventures?  Looking for recommendations on how to modify these Ventures for more stability without cranking down the kingpin nut too much.  Thanks!
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4ddfvtw/C3-CCEECA-A392-478-A-8-B75-83-C966-A0-F677.png)
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Dxl Super crush bait and tackle. Green 94a purple 97a

Are these bushings thinner or something?  What will they accomplish for me?  Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on July 09, 2020, 06:28:40 AM
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Bought some 5.0 highs recently and if I line them up axle to axle with my Reynolds Hollow Indy 139’s they are exactly the same height. 

This chart says the 139 standard is 1.5mm taller than the Venture 5.0 high.  Maybe my eye can’t discern that slight difference, but the Ventures actually “feel” a little taller and tippy-er to me.  Does that make sense?  Of course, the width also makes a difference. 

Question is this: shave down the bushings a little?  Replace the stock bushings in the Ventures?  Looking for recommendations on how to modify these Ventures for more stability without cranking down the kingpin nut too much.  Thanks!
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4ddfvtw/C3-CCEECA-A392-478-A-8-B75-83-C966-A0-F677.png)
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Dxl Super crush bait and tackle. Green 94a purple 97a

This is the best way. A harder bushing in ventures really does a lot to improve the stability without sacrificing the turn. I have purple 97s in my 5.6 hollows and greens in my 5.2 lows. I'm a bigger dude and the swap is what really makes ventures work for me. I wouldn't recommend shaving the bushings, it'll just mess with the turn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on July 09, 2020, 06:51:34 PM
My 5.6's are on the way. Can't wait to give it a poke.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 09, 2020, 09:05:47 PM
What does tippy mean anyway. I'm having trouble with this term.

Does that mean loose and you're not used to the turn delay or like OG tensor 2 wheel coasting around corners trying not to tic tac.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 09, 2020, 10:44:56 PM
What does tippy mean anyway. I'm having trouble with this term.

Does that mean loose and you're not used to the turn delay or like OG tensor 2 wheel coasting around corners trying not to tic tac.

For me it makes the nose too light, like if I were setting my feet up to Ollie and crouched down it would feel like the board was popping too quickly.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on July 10, 2020, 02:38:03 AM
What does tippy mean anyway. I'm having trouble with this term.

Does that mean loose and you're not used to the turn delay or like OG tensor 2 wheel coasting around corners trying not to tic tac.

tippy for me means that the board wiggles when you load up or leans quite a bit without resistance before actually turning. so there is kind of an unnecessary lean before the actual response of the truck. for some that might be great. for me it's weird, but maybe i just need to adjust and don't be so delicate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 10, 2020, 08:00:15 AM
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What does tippy mean anyway. I'm having trouble with this term.

Does that mean loose and you're not used to the turn delay or like OG tensor 2 wheel coasting around corners trying not to tic tac.
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tippy for me means that the board wiggles when you load up or leans quite a bit without resistance before actually turning. so there is kind of an unnecessary lean before the actual response of the truck. for some that might be great. for me it's weird, but maybe i just need to adjust and don't be so delicate.

Experienced that today. 5.6 v-hollow on a 8.125, felt a good deal of lean and lack of stability when I was setting up for trucks. 5.2 Lo feel really stable but wheelbite is a bitch
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on July 10, 2020, 09:50:08 AM
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What does tippy mean anyway. I'm having trouble with this term.

Does that mean loose and you're not used to the turn delay or like OG tensor 2 wheel coasting around corners trying not to tic tac.
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tippy for me means that the board wiggles when you load up or leans quite a bit without resistance before actually turning. so there is kind of an unnecessary lean before the actual response of the truck. for some that might be great. for me it's weird, but maybe i just need to adjust and don't be so delicate.
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Experienced that today. 5.6 v-hollow on a 8.125, felt a good deal of lean and lack of stability when I was setting up for trucks. 5.2 Lo feel really stable but wheelbite is a bitch

that is what i mean... i'm giving them another two weeks and then i need to change something for sure. 5.2s and lo's are not an option for me because of wheelbite, pop feel and prefered deck width.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on July 10, 2020, 11:06:18 AM
Bought some 5.0 highs recently and if I line them up axle to axle with my Reynolds Hollow Indy 139’s they are exactly the same height. 

This chart says the 139 standard is 1.5mm taller than the Venture 5.0 high.  Maybe my eye can’t discern that slight difference, but the Ventures actually “feel” a little taller and tippy-er to me.  Does that make sense?  Of course, the width also makes a difference. 

Question is this: shave down the bushings a little?  Replace the stock bushings in the Ventures?  Looking for recommendations on how to modify these Ventures for more stability without cranking down the kingpin nut too much.  Thanks!
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4ddfvtw/C3-CCEECA-A392-478-A-8-B75-83-C966-A0-F677.png)
when I line up my cast 5.2 next to some indy 144 forged tits, they sit the same height at 53.5mm, even measured them to be exact & everything was spot on.

Another note, I had been running cast plates on my 5.6 titaniums this whole year basically, loved everything about it. But the madness/curiosity got to me again and I retired the 5.6 titanium hanger for the raw 5.6 hangers on cast plates for more heft. Thought I would hate it but I don’t! My decks sog out after 2 weeks of heavy skating everyday and the heft/height of regular trucks brings my pop back to life.

I also tried 5.6 forged titaniums on the same 8.25 x 31.9 x 14.25 wb, and it wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be, but the longer wb would be an adjustment for me. I love forged ventures on 14wb but all my decks are 14.25 so cast it is! I don’t experience the tippy feeling but I also ride hella loose on months old bushings so maybe I’m use to it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 10, 2020, 11:40:25 PM
Anyone have a recommendation for replacement bushing for the stock ones? I'm used to the geometry and turns, anything that would give a better pinch and more stability when crouching to pop tricks? I have the stock purple and white ones on my 5.6 and 5.2 V-Hollow respectively
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on July 11, 2020, 02:24:47 AM
Anyone have a recommendation for replacement bushing for the stock ones? I'm used to the geometry and turns, anything that would give a better pinch and more stability when crouching to pop tricks? I have the stock purple and white ones on my 5.6 and 5.2 V-Hollow respectively

Ace bushings are good but its more for a surfier turn and in my experience don't last that long. I'm back on stocks now, have also tried bones and I don't think there's anything that's a noticeable improvement over stocks in stability and pinch. Maybe your stocks are worn and you just need new ones?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 11, 2020, 02:44:13 AM
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Anyone have a recommendation for replacement bushing for the stock ones? I'm used to the geometry and turns, anything that would give a better pinch and more stability when crouching to pop tricks? I have the stock purple and white ones on my 5.6 and 5.2 V-Hollow respectively
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Ace bushings are good but its more for a surfier turn and in my experience don't last that long. I'm back on stocks now, have also tried bones and I don't think there's anything that's a noticeable improvement over stocks in stability and pinch. Maybe your stocks are worn and you just need new ones?

Nah they are pretty fresh, I liked them more when they were new and not as worn in. I'll tighten up the kingpin to see if that helps tomorrow.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on July 11, 2020, 02:56:03 AM
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Anyone have a recommendation for replacement bushing for the stock ones? I'm used to the geometry and turns, anything that would give a better pinch and more stability when crouching to pop tricks? I have the stock purple and white ones on my 5.6 and 5.2 V-Hollow respectively
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Ace bushings are good but its more for a surfier turn and in my experience don't last that long. I'm back on stocks now, have also tried bones and I don't think there's anything that's a noticeable improvement over stocks in stability and pinch. Maybe your stocks are worn and you just need new ones?
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Nah they are pretty fresh, I liked them more when they were new and not as worn in. I'll tighten up the kingpin to see if that helps tomorrow.

Tightening will help with stability, maybe pinch if you're riding super loose right now but maybe not.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shmazz on July 11, 2020, 01:33:57 PM
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I’ve been skating 5.6 lights on my 8.25 FA deck for the past ten days or so and I’m loving them so far. I’ve only tighten them a couple of times (skating about two hours a day) and I ride them medium-loose. Solid turn, and although they do feel sturdier than my last set of trucks (Hysteria 147s, a Chinese made truck that sort of looks like a Thunder yet is 55mm tall) I like the pop feel on the 5.6s better. Parks are still closed around here, but slappies feel great once you wear the hanger down a little bit.  :D
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Never mind, one of the top bushings just snapped lol. I’m not a heavy guy and my trucks are not tight by any definition so yeah, I’m pretty bummed about that.
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Stock or bones or????

Stock, maybe “snapped” was a bit of an exaggeration on my part but it started to fall apart real quick. Bought some Indy medium conicals as a replacement and although I’m still breaking them in I’ve noticed the trucks have a sharper turn now.
Here’s a comparison pic between the good bushing and the blown out one.

(https://i.imgur.com/fI7sSPt.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on July 11, 2020, 01:52:15 PM
ahh thats happened to me too :(, doesn't affect the turn but looking at a crumbled bushing pisses me off.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 11, 2020, 02:24:14 PM
Is this only happening to purple tops?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on July 11, 2020, 02:33:25 PM
Is this only happening to purple tops?

has happened to my white tops also
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shmazz on July 11, 2020, 06:06:16 PM
ahh thats happened to me too :(, doesn't affect the turn but looking at a crumbled bushing pisses me off.

Yeah, to be honest with you I didn’t notice much of a difference on how the trucks turned either, but it kinda fucked with how confident I felt riding them. I know it’s just a mental thing but still, not fun.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on July 11, 2020, 08:07:12 PM
that happened to a pair of purple tops on my 5.8s on my front truck, then same thing recently on the front truck on my pair of thunders. maybe the heat or something?

agree that it fucks with the confidence of them though, same thing happened to me on a pair of indys, only thing is stock orange indy bushings are easy to buy from skateshops but you can't get stock purples or blue gatorade thunder bushings at skate shops.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sativa Lung on July 12, 2020, 06:18:47 AM
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I’ve been skating 5.6 lights on my 8.25 FA deck for the past ten days or so and I’m loving them so far. I’ve only tighten them a couple of times (skating about two hours a day) and I ride them medium-loose. Solid turn, and although they do feel sturdier than my last set of trucks (Hysteria 147s, a Chinese made truck that sort of looks like a Thunder yet is 55mm tall) I like the pop feel on the 5.6s better. Parks are still closed around here, but slappies feel great once you wear the hanger down a little bit.  :D
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Never mind, one of the top bushings just snapped lol. I’m not a heavy guy and my trucks are not tight by any definition so yeah, I’m pretty bummed about that.
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Stock or bones or????
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Stock, maybe “snapped” was a bit of an exaggeration on my part but it started to fall apart real quick. Bought some Indy medium conicals as a replacement and although I’m still breaking them in I’ve noticed the trucks have a sharper turn now.
Here’s a comparison pic between the good bushing and the blown out one.

(https://i.imgur.com/fI7sSPt.jpg)

I think it's the washers more than the bushings. I've had it happen with indy, doh doh, and rip tide as well. Some tops have a thin/sharp bevel that slices into them on deep turns. Doesn't seem to happen if I use a washer that has a thicker edge on the bevel or one that's more "flared" so it doesn't dig in. Obviously flat washers work too.

For the most part the bushings are fine but some get pretty chewed up if you don't notice it quick. It seems to happen more when I have them cranked down but then again that's how I ride most softer bushings so that might be a biased observation.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 12, 2020, 08:15:14 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/BGknWHz/1594563111524968951869.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7QhkMxY)

This is cracked but it didn't go all the way through because I removed it as soon as I noticed which was like day 2 or 3.

My back truck got mad loose and my board started favoring front side carves. Was heading out in to traffic because gotta left side of the bump. Switch is too much for me.

Then my front truck was way tighter than my back.

So streets are done. I got a soggy deck an I'm struggling looking stupid at the park.
Thinking it's because I got new trucks I was like whatever but I noticed there's a big rainbow crack.

 I thought it was from the washer but I followed the rainbow and found it's all the way to the yoke where there's two bubbles on the bottom.

I was bummed

Shalomie hook up got me back on track and off the broken bones.

Those tops I suspect will last for multiple trucks. Though I'm about to put those on ice till winter because of the heat I may need to ride the 94s

I couldn't suggest bait and tackle more.

The difference in quality is obvious immediately upon opening the packaging.

 I just should have a 92. A little shave will fix that.

Oh shit I just got a new phone
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on July 12, 2020, 09:13:32 AM
I couldn't suggest bait and tackle more.

I love the harder supercush in my ventures. The harder duro just puts the stability/turning balance in the zone for me and they hold up really well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on July 12, 2020, 12:36:33 PM
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I couldn't suggest bait and tackle more.
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I love the harder supercush in my ventures. The harder duro just puts the stability/turning balance in the zone for me and they hold up really well.
I use the hard doh dohs; they feel a little too stiff at first upon installation but once they break in after a sesh or two they feel great. They fit pretty much perfect on venture 5.8s too, the bottom bushing might be a hairs length taller than the stock bottom but it’s nothing too drastic to where you feel any sort of difference. With the summer heat they have loosened up a few times on me tho, but usually I’ll just give ‘em a half turn or so and they’ll be good to go again.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on July 12, 2020, 02:50:31 PM
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I couldn't suggest bait and tackle more.
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I love the harder supercush in my ventures. The harder duro just puts the stability/turning balance in the zone for me and they hold up really well.
I got the purple and the greens and I’m a big fan
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: m477 on July 12, 2020, 03:13:22 PM
The stock bushings on my 6.1s were good for a about 4 months until they deteriorated. I replaced them with black Indy after market barrel bushings Ive had on multiple different trucks and they’re really good. They’re probably the most durable long lasting bushings I’ve ever had (they do take some time to break in however). I also use 1/8 risers and am supper happy with this setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sativa Lung on July 13, 2020, 03:46:49 AM
Another replacement bushing option I like are Tracker superballs. They skate harder than their rated duro and have an interesting bouncy feeling rebound.

The green ones are listed as 90a or 95a most places but even that seems low,  they feel harder than a 96a indy to me. I like the red/orange medium ones - they're listed as 88a but feel like the 94a venture stocks except denser, if that makes any sense. Never tried the soft ones but I'll probably pick up a pair next time I order something from sk8kings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 5y64r1t3 on July 13, 2020, 02:10:37 PM
anyone know where i might be able to find a pair of v-hollow 5.0's ? daddies sold me a pair and then emailed to say they didn't actually have them and now i can't find them anywhere without paying double to get them shipped from australia
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 13, 2020, 06:53:47 PM
anyone know where i might be able to find a pair of v-hollow 5.0's ? daddies sold me a pair and then emailed to say they didn't actually have them and now i can't find them anywhere without paying double to get them shipped from australia

https://www.skateamerica.com/collections/skate-trucks-venture

Only V-Lights but they are selling a bunch of other stuff on discount (boards, wheels) so the savings could add up
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 5y64r1t3 on July 13, 2020, 09:55:40 PM
ah thanks, i've seen a lot of bad reviews for them kinda get the vibe they're gonna not have them and make me chase them down for a refund but i might give it a shot if they take paypal
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 13, 2020, 10:04:39 PM
ah thanks, i've seen a lot of bad reviews for them kinda get the vibe they're gonna not have them and make me chase them down for a refund but i might give it a shot if they take paypal

I got some Bones wheels 2 weeks back from them, shipped just fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 5y64r1t3 on July 13, 2020, 10:14:21 PM
sweet good to hear, i just ordered the v-light hi's hopefully they come thru
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on July 14, 2020, 01:18:28 PM
Anybody use bones bushings in Lo’s? Does it noticeably fuck with the geometry?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 14, 2020, 04:41:46 PM
Anybody use bones bushings in Lo’s? Does it noticeably fuck with the geometry?

PJ Ladd
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Quique on July 14, 2020, 09:34:01 PM
I've done it in 5.0 lows, bones medium no washers. Makes them turn pretty decent, paired with 51mm worked fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on July 21, 2020, 01:51:13 PM
been trying to cop those 5.6 thrasher x venture trucks but all I can find are the yellows  :-[ guess I slept too long
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on July 21, 2020, 01:54:04 PM
I've done it in 5.0 lows, bones medium no washers. Makes them turn pretty decent, paired with 51mm worked fine.

Same exact combo, many times. I haven’t really fucked with the blue sorts, but I’ve used the mediums and the hards. Both work great, for me. 52mm is my limit for wheel size, 50mm is probably more ideal for less wheelbite
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on July 23, 2020, 08:02:48 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CC_-mC-FCAV/?igshid=tqev4kymgs1p
Aikens on venture
Let’s fuckin go baby
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ProjectKSL on July 23, 2020, 08:18:12 PM
Anyone know of any site that has the 5.2 low hollows in stock? Can't find them anywhere in the US, only UK shops ever pop up. Any help would be really appreciated.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on July 23, 2020, 08:41:02 PM
Riptide Pivot Cups make a difference. They gave my ventures a faster turn. I do have the yellow clear stock bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on July 23, 2020, 10:22:55 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CC_-mC-FCAV/?igshid=tqev4kymgs1p
Aikens on venture
Let’s fuckin go baby

What size is he skating?
I can never tell what this guy skates. He also switches between Indy and thunder on the regular, and now venture. Kills it all the same
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lazer69 on July 23, 2020, 10:37:26 PM
do you have to shave down the plastic on the T tool in order to tighten the kingpin on your ventures? I have the 5.8s and seems im going to have to do that in order to get it to fully grab the nut.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 23, 2020, 11:01:27 PM
do you have to shave down the plastic on the T tool in order to tighten the kingpin on your ventures? I have the 5.8s and seems im going to have to do that in order to get it to fully grab the nut.

No, if you have a mini wrench and a screwdriver you can accomplish the same thing. Or get the Silver, Ace or Spitfire tool if you're feeling spendy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on July 24, 2020, 04:48:15 AM
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Aikens on venture
Let’s fuckin go baby
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What size is he skating?
I can never tell what this guy skates. He also switches between Indy and thunder on the regular, and now venture. Kills it all the same

Maybe it was you who asked, but he responded 5.8 in the comments.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on July 24, 2020, 06:37:58 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CC_-mC-FCAV/?igshid=tqev4kymgs1p
Aikens on venture
Let’s fuckin go baby
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What size is he skating?
I can never tell what this guy skates. He also switches between Indy and thunder on the regular, and now venture. Kills it all the same
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Maybe it was you who asked, but he responded 5.8 in the comments.

I didn’t ask him, so thanks. From the screen grab above those look like 8” trucks to me. Must wear size 14s or something.
Anyways, thanks again
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 24, 2020, 10:06:38 PM
I saw this in the "Why do you still ride Independent trucks" thread to change out stock Venture bushing with Bones Medium, had them on the standard way with no washer on to bottom, small black one on the top. Holy fuck the turn is amazing now. Still a lot of lean before the turn but when it does the radius is really sharp. Had so much fun just cruising around the park and getting blood flowing to my injuries hip area. Couldnt say for the pinch on grinds since I was taking it easy today.

I pushed around on a friend's Ventures that were pretty new with the stock red bushing. Definitely a convert of Ventures + Bones bushing.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on July 24, 2020, 10:22:42 PM
I saw this in the "Why do you still ride Independent trucks" thread to change out stock Venture bushing with Bones Medium, had them on the standard way with no washer on to bottom, small black one on the top. Holy fuck the turn is amazing now. Still a lot of lean before the turn but when it does the radius is really sharp. Had so much fun just cruising around the park and getting blood flowing to my injuries hip area. Couldnt say for the pinch on grinds since I was taking it easy today.

I pushed around on a friend's Ventures that were pretty new with the stock red bushing. Definitely a convert of Ventures + Bones bushing.

Coincidence! I threw bones mediums in my ventures today too. One of my purple top bushings got mushed into a few pieces, not sure how but its happened a bunch of times now, similar to the person further up in the thread but wayyy worse.

I did the same thing as you with bones mediums except without the small black washer up top as it was a bit tight (though I will probably put it in when they break in and soften a bit).

Don't feel fully broken in yet, but right now the turn isn't as deep as it was with really broken in stocks but besides that it feels fine. I ran bones mediums for a lil bit last year and it worked so it should be no problem.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Technique on July 24, 2020, 10:40:04 PM
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I saw this in the "Why do you still ride Independent trucks" thread to change out stock Venture bushing with Bones Medium, had them on the standard way with no washer on to bottom, small black one on the top. Holy fuck the turn is amazing now. Still a lot of lean before the turn but when it does the radius is really sharp. Had so much fun just cruising around the park and getting blood flowing to my injuries hip area. Couldnt say for the pinch on grinds since I was taking it easy today.

I pushed around on a friend's Ventures that were pretty new with the stock red bushing. Definitely a convert of Ventures + Bones bushing.
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Coincidence! I threw bones mediums in my ventures today too. One of my purple top bushings got mushed into a few pieces, not sure how but its happened a bunch of times now, similar to the person further up in the thread but wayyy worse.

I did the same thing as you with bones mediums except without the small black washer up top as it was a bit tight (though I will probably put it in when they break in and soften a bit).

Don't feel fully broken in yet, but right now the turn isn't as deep as it was with really broken in stocks but besides that it feels fine. I ran bones mediums for a lil bit last year and it worked so it should be no problem.

Same here. Tried stock bushings when I switched to ventures earlier this year after riding indys with bones mediums and couldn’t take it for longer than a day. After the switch and the break in the turn is phenomenal. My old set just cracked the other day, so I’m breaking in some new ones right now as well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on July 24, 2020, 10:51:23 PM
the stocks imo are great once they break in, absolutely no complaints... until they break down.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sativa Lung on July 25, 2020, 01:27:43 AM
Yeah I think venture is the only major truck manufacturer that I don't swap bushing around in. Like ever. Every time I try it I end up going back to the stocks. They are pretty much perfect once they break in, but I did have one set break in really weird... I don't know what happened but I have to crank them way down to make them feel right.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on July 25, 2020, 10:03:57 AM
Curiosity got the best of me, my riptides come on Monday  8) Time to get these forged 5.2s some serious das pinch action
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on July 26, 2020, 12:31:38 AM
ended up finding some other stock purple bushings lying around and put em back on.

The bones mediums felt fine but they softened up a bit a day or so later and I wanted to put in the thin top washer but it made it hard to get the kingpin nut on with my tool properly. My pivot cup hole is pretty deformed from lots of slides so I'm guessing the hanger is sitting at a weird angle thats messed with the geometry a lil bit.

If you're not feeling the stocks, or they break on you, bones feel great as long as your pivot cup hole is still round lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on July 27, 2020, 07:18:30 AM
+ 1 for Bones Mediums in Venture trucks... had a rough time with my 5.6 hollow hi's since some time, switched out bushings for mediums and pivot cups for riptides and they are back to being smooth, loose, but stable when loading up. Hope the Bones will be holding up.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: live, laugh, love on July 27, 2020, 07:24:59 AM
+ 1 for Bones Mediums in Venture trucks... had a rough time with my 5.6 hollow hi's since some time, switched out bushings for mediums and pivot cups for riptides and they are back to being smooth, loose, but stable when loading up. Hope the Bones will be holding up.

I've been using bones meds on ventures highs on my last 2 sets of trucks now. For me that works best. The first ones I tried were the bones hard bushings and even after softening up they felt too stiff for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on July 28, 2020, 03:59:20 PM
Best board/shape you guys have had on 6.1s?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on July 28, 2020, 05:54:37 PM
Dunno why I can’t quote right now but curious to hear too.

Had mine set up w Dane 1 just for a bit tho.
and also a 8.75”/14.5”wb popsicle (I’m tall and like the longer wb). Back on 169 Ti (thanks daddies) now to mess w on a 9” popsicle
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 28, 2020, 06:03:04 PM
Got myself a smaller and shorter board than usual - I usually go with Venture forged on 8.125 x 31.8 x 14.25. Now I'm trying 8 x 31.6 x 14 with fairly steep kicks, would a cast or forged baseplate work better given the shorter length and WB?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: live, laugh, love on July 28, 2020, 07:20:22 PM
Got myself a smaller and shorter board than usual - I usually go with Venture forged on 8.125 x 31.8 x 14.25. Now I'm trying 8 x 31.6 x 14 with fairly steep kicks, would a cast or forged baseplate work better given the shorter length and WB?

I have on deck an 8.12 x 31.62 FA board. Nak deck from last year. I love short decks. Plus it's 14 Wb which matches nice with venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 28, 2020, 07:48:56 PM
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I have on deck an 8.12 x 31.62 FA board. Nak deck from last year. I love short decks. Plus it's 14 Wb which matches nice with venture.

Question is - Forged or Cast baseplate?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on July 28, 2020, 10:05:27 PM
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Got myself a smaller and shorter board than usual - I usually go with Venture forged on 8.125 x 31.8 x 14.25. Now I'm trying 8 x 31.6 x 14 with fairly steep kicks, would a cast or forged baseplate work better given the shorter length and WB?
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I have on deck an 8.12 x 31.62 FA board. Nak deck from last year. I love short decks. Plus it's 14 Wb which matches nice with venture.
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Question is - Forged or Cast baseplate?
i just setup a full dip 8 x 31.6 x 14 FA with 5.2 titaniums with forged & it feels fucking awesome
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 28, 2020, 10:54:21 PM
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Got myself a smaller and shorter board than usual - I usually go with Venture forged on 8.125 x 31.8 x 14.25. Now I'm trying 8 x 31.6 x 14 with fairly steep kicks, would a cast or forged baseplate work better given the shorter length and WB?
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I have on deck an 8.12 x 31.62 FA board. Nak deck from last year. I love short decks. Plus it's 14 Wb which matches nice with venture.
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Question is - Forged or Cast baseplate?
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i just setup a full dip 8 x 31.6 x 14 FA with 5.2 titaniums with forged & it feels fucking awesome

5.2 V-Hollow Lo it is then. Thanks for the input.

Was thinking about adding a pair of 5.2 Standards into my collection. Managed to sell off 5 pairs of trucks in the last week to reduce my gear madness. I would keep a pair around just so I could swap out baseplates if I wanted to shorten WB.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Junglist on July 28, 2020, 11:48:04 PM
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Got myself a smaller and shorter board than usual - I usually go with Venture forged on 8.125 x 31.8 x 14.25. Now I'm trying 8 x 31.6 x 14 with fairly steep kicks, would a cast or forged baseplate work better given the shorter length and WB?
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I have on deck an 8.12 x 31.62 FA board. Nak deck from last year. I love short decks. Plus it's 14 Wb which matches nice with venture.
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Question is - Forged or Cast baseplate?
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i just setup a full dip 8 x 31.6 x 14 FA with 5.2 titaniums with forged & it feels fucking awesome
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5.2 V-Hollow Lo it is then. Thanks for the input.

Was thinking about adding a pair of 5.2 Standards into my collection. Managed to sell off 5 pairs of trucks in the last week to reduce my gear madness. I would keep a pair around just so I could swap out baseplates if I wanted to shorten WB.
forged > cast tbh.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: live, laugh, love on July 29, 2020, 04:07:43 AM
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Got myself a smaller and shorter board than usual - I usually go with Venture forged on 8.125 x 31.8 x 14.25. Now I'm trying 8 x 31.6 x 14 with fairly steep kicks, would a cast or forged baseplate work better given the shorter length and WB?
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I have on deck an 8.12 x 31.62 FA board. Nak deck from last year. I love short decks. Plus it's 14 Wb which matches nice with venture.
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Question is - Forged or Cast baseplate?

Yeah sorry, the forged baseplates is what I have.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 29, 2020, 06:00:20 AM
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Got myself a smaller and shorter board than usual - I usually go with Venture forged on 8.125 x 31.8 x 14.25. Now I'm trying 8 x 31.6 x 14 with fairly steep kicks, would a cast or forged baseplate work better given the shorter length and WB?
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I have on deck an 8.12 x 31.62 FA board. Nak deck from last year. I love short decks. Plus it's 14 Wb which matches nice with venture.
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Question is - Forged or Cast baseplate?

I just go with whichever one I don't have.

Being an old man I'd be kind of frightened to change my wheelbase.  Almost any changes as of this moment could be disastrous for a few days. I'm even riding a truck that's f***** up when I have four that aren't

frightened change
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on July 29, 2020, 12:52:47 PM
Still have not skated my new 5.0 Lows. My ankle does ye olde swell, just from walking around at work lately, so I am in no shape to get on a board currently. (I have mega tendon damage). They sure look nice, waiting on a setup though. May have to hold off until fall, pretty sure I have a bit of Tim O'Connoritis of the ankle. I do enjoy the lowrider look of the setup
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on July 29, 2020, 02:04:43 PM
Still have not skated my new 5.0 Lows. My ankle does ye olde swell, just from walking around at work lately, so I am in no shape to get on a board currently. (I have mega tendon damage). They sure look nice, waiting on a setup though. May have to hold off until fall, pretty sure I have a bit of Tim O'Connoritis of the ankle. I do enjoy the lowrider look of the setup


That sucks! Ankles are shitty. I’m trying to lose weight to help my lower extremities....rn I get to the point where I crouch down to explode into some flippery and then just....nope. Stand back up, slowly, take some more pushes. Too much mid leg pain. Anyways, hopefully you can find a way to work that ankle back into some shape. Rehab!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on July 29, 2020, 06:07:11 PM
Best board/shape you guys have had on 6.1s?
Girl/Chocolate Loveseat shape with 6.1s is sex.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on July 29, 2020, 09:31:22 PM
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Girl/Chocolate Loveseat shape with 6.1s is sex.

Damn I’ve got a couch shape i completely forgot about. For some reason I just thought the kicks would be too short/too mellow, but ill give it a go. I didn’t like it on the Brown Bomber
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on July 30, 2020, 06:49:28 AM
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Still have not skated my new 5.0 Lows. My ankle does ye olde swell, just from walking around at work lately, so I am in no shape to get on a board currently. (I have mega tendon damage). They sure look nice, waiting on a setup though. May have to hold off until fall, pretty sure I have a bit of Tim O'Connoritis of the ankle. I do enjoy the lowrider look of the setup
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That sucks! Ankles are shitty. I’m trying to lose weight to help my lower extremities....rn I get to the point where I crouch down to explode into some flippery and then just....nope. Stand back up, slowly, take some more pushes. Too much mid leg pain. Anyways, hopefully you can find a way to work that ankle back into some shape. Rehab!

Also trying to lose some weight. I could lose eh 15-20 lbs. Pretty sure it's mostly bloat from Dr. Pepper. I am addicted to that shit. I did go for the bike ride last night in the rain, so I'm kind of proud of myself for that. I do a bit of stretching but I procrastinate on it a lot more. I think once fall is here, I always get more motivated. My ankle does appreciate that work, that riding up a hill on a bike, puts into it. It kind of seems like... 2 weeks of bike riding affords me 3-4 days of skating, but I'm pretty sure I need to ride a bike every day. (This also frustrates me because time riding a bike, is time i'd prefer to be skating of course)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on July 30, 2020, 07:05:48 AM
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Still have not skated my new 5.0 Lows. My ankle does ye olde swell, just from walking around at work lately, so I am in no shape to get on a board currently. (I have mega tendon damage). They sure look nice, waiting on a setup though. May have to hold off until fall, pretty sure I have a bit of Tim O'Connoritis of the ankle. I do enjoy the lowrider look of the setup
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That sucks! Ankles are shitty. I’m trying to lose weight to help my lower extremities....rn I get to the point where I crouch down to explode into some flippery and then just....nope. Stand back up, slowly, take some more pushes. Too much mid leg pain. Anyways, hopefully you can find a way to work that ankle back into some shape. Rehab!
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Also trying to lose some weight. I could lose eh 15-20 lbs. Pretty sure it's mostly bloat from Dr. Pepper. I am addicted to that shit. I did go for the bike ride last night in the rain, so I'm kind of proud of myself for that. I do a bit of stretching but I procrastinate on it a lot more. I think once fall is here, I always get more motivated. My ankle does appreciate that work, that riding up a hill on a bike, puts into it. It kind of seems like... 2 weeks of bike riding affords me 3-4 days of skating, but I'm pretty sure I need to ride a bike every day. (This also frustrates me because time riding a bike, is time i'd prefer to be skating of course)

Re: the ankle,

I broke my leg a few years ago and got a super bad ankle sprain the the process. In PT they gave me a bunch of therabands to use at home and those were super helpful...great low impact way to starch and build up small muscle tissue. It helped me recover and kept things from atrophying.

https://orthonc.com/uploads/pdf/Ankle_Theraband.pdf (https://orthonc.com/uploads/pdf/Ankle_Theraband.pdf)

Inexpensive and you can do them while you work or watch TV or whatever.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Junglist on July 30, 2020, 07:58:01 AM
Nobody asked but I’m running venture 5.6 v lights with ace bushings and I’m having a grand old time
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on July 30, 2020, 06:30:59 PM
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Girl/Chocolate Loveseat shape with 6.1s is sex.
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Damn I’ve got a couch shape i completely forgot about. For some reason I just thought the kicks would be too short/too mellow, but ill give it a go. I didn’t like it on the Brown Bomber
I love cruising and ollie's and shit on it.. Flipping it gave me a tough time for a while, but thats mostly due to tired legs on a big setup. If you try it I hope you like it man.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 30, 2020, 07:13:01 PM
Think I've come to the end of my Venture + Bones Bushing experiment. Maybe the Bones Soft were too mushy, felt like my board was flexing and tilting when I was setting up my pop, especially on flip tricks. The turn improved drastically at the expense of straight line stability. Back to the stock ones for now.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ProjectKSL on July 30, 2020, 09:43:51 PM
For anyone looking to buy some, parade listed some new ones today. Finally had some hollows available. Was able to scoop a pair of the 5.2 hollow lo.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on July 31, 2020, 06:37:05 AM
I've got some therabands! I am definitely not using as much as I should. going to start in my office here.
Foot feeling okay today but I am seeing a t-storm coming so that is inconvenient.

Not sure if I mentioned this, but Venture Featherlights were some of the best trucks of all time. I sold my last pair on ebay a year ago and my nostalgia is still mad at me.

I do like the nice plain look of the new polished ones, I really like the look of the axle. Especially takes me back to a lot of old Mariano pictures and Wade Speyer (2 of my faves)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on July 31, 2020, 07:26:11 AM
Nice! Yeah, it's been several years but I still do the exercises when I have a minute of down time at work.

Featherlights were sick. I have green bushings in my venture lows in part because of how much I loved the way the looked. That was the first truck I ever saw where I was like "I need those.".
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on July 31, 2020, 03:39:24 PM
For anyone looking to buy some, parade listed some new ones today. Finally had some hollows available. Was able to scoop a pair of the 5.2 hollow lo.
Thanks, been looking for some hollows forever!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on July 31, 2020, 07:20:25 PM
Best board/shape you guys have had on 6.1s?
They work like a charm on the Villani football 9.125 shape.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on July 31, 2020, 11:45:05 PM
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They work like a charm on the Villani football 9.125 shape.

Enjoying them on the Couch shape, got a Villani ordered on its way as well! Good lookin
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 01, 2020, 05:59:25 AM
Fuck fuck fycj
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on August 01, 2020, 10:25:49 AM
Fuck :( condolences Banned
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Deekay on August 02, 2020, 12:29:08 PM
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Still have not skated my new 5.0 Lows. My ankle does ye olde swell, just from walking around at work lately, so I am in no shape to get on a board currently. (I have mega tendon damage). They sure look nice, waiting on a setup though. May have to hold off until fall, pretty sure I have a bit of Tim O'Connoritis of the ankle. I do enjoy the lowrider look of the setup
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That sucks! Ankles are shitty. I’m trying to lose weight to help my lower extremities....rn I get to the point where I crouch down to explode into some flippery and then just....nope. Stand back up, slowly, take some more pushes. Too much mid leg pain. Anyways, hopefully you can find a way to work that ankle back into some shape. Rehab!
[close]

Also trying to lose some weight. I could lose eh 15-20 lbs. Pretty sure it's mostly bloat from Dr. Pepper. I am addicted to that shit. I did go for the bike ride last night in the rain, so I'm kind of proud of myself for that. I do a bit of stretching but I procrastinate on it a lot more. I think once fall is here, I always get more motivated. My ankle does appreciate that work, that riding up a hill on a bike, puts into it. It kind of seems like... 2 weeks of bike riding affords me 3-4 days of skating, but I'm pretty sure I need to ride a bike every day. (This also frustrates me because time riding a bike, is time i'd prefer to be skating of course)
[close]

Re: the ankle,

I broke my leg a few years ago and got a super bad ankle sprain the the process. In PT they gave me a bunch of therabands to use at home and those were super helpful...great low impact way to starch and build up small muscle tissue. It helped me recover and kept things from atrophying.

https://orthonc.com/uploads/pdf/Ankle_Theraband.pdf (https://orthonc.com/uploads/pdf/Ankle_Theraband.pdf)

Inexpensive and you can do them while you work or watch TV or whatever.

I've thrashed my ankles so many times and I thought I would never skate without a brace again at one point. It doesn't seem as common in the US, but in Europe we use balance boards for athletes a lot, especially in soccer. My physical therapist gave me some exercises for my knee before so I just started doing them for my ankle and the results were super fuckin good.. It's been a few years but I have zero ankle problems now.

If you don't have one of these, get one right away and just stand on it with one foot at the time and write your name with your other foot 5-10 times with each leg every day. It doesn't take that long but it will strengthen your ankle, along with your knees and thighs, so fucking much. 

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1452/9554/products/FitterBalanceBoardClassic_800x.jpg?v=1493333519)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on August 03, 2020, 12:50:14 PM
tried my friends 5.6 standards pretty loose and the stability for setting up tricks was godly. really on the fence if i should dip my toes into truck madness again and get a pair of 5.6 hollows for my 8.5 hockey.

loving my 151 hollows but if i can run ventures equally loose while keeping the trademarked stability.....might have to convert
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on August 03, 2020, 12:52:50 PM
tried my friends 5.6 standards pretty loose and the stability for setting up tricks was godly. really on the fence if i should dip my toes into truck madness again and get a pair of 5.6 hollows for my 8.5 hockey.

loving my 151 hollows but if i can run ventures equally loose while keeping the trademarked stability.....might have to convert

Ventures are a lil bit more stable for setting up your feet in awkward positions for certain tricks.... going from 8.75 trucks to 8.25 sounds a bit extreme though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on August 03, 2020, 01:26:14 PM
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tried my friends 5.6 standards pretty loose and the stability for setting up tricks was godly. really on the fence if i should dip my toes into truck madness again and get a pair of 5.6 hollows for my 8.5 hockey.

loving my 151 hollows but if i can run ventures equally loose while keeping the trademarked stability.....might have to convert
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Ventures are a lil bit more stable for setting up your feet in awkward positions for certain tricks.... going from 8.75 trucks to 8.25 sounds a bit extreme though
was planning on running extra washers on the axle to push it out a bit. im more worried about the pop feel than the axle length coming from thunder forged. is it much different than venture forged? if so then ill forget about it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on August 03, 2020, 01:46:56 PM
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tried my friends 5.6 standards pretty loose and the stability for setting up tricks was godly. really on the fence if i should dip my toes into truck madness again and get a pair of 5.6 hollows for my 8.5 hockey.

loving my 151 hollows but if i can run ventures equally loose while keeping the trademarked stability.....might have to convert
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Ventures are a lil bit more stable for setting up your feet in awkward positions for certain tricks.... going from 8.75 trucks to 8.25 sounds a bit extreme though
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was planning on running extra washers on the axle to push it out a bit. im more worried about the pop feel than the axle length coming from thunder forged. is it much different than venture forged? if so then ill forget about it

When I briefly tried Thunder hollow light 151s coming from Venture 5.8s with forged plates, the pop feel was different. Thunders were a bit lighter and quicker, ventures a bit heftier but I'd say they're very similar and that its fairly easy to get used to either way. Might as well just get 5.8s not 5.6s if you skate 8.5s.... though the best recommendation would just be stick to whatever trucks you have and switch them out when you hit axle or they break.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: white guy in a durag on August 03, 2020, 06:18:33 PM
tried my friends 5.6 standards pretty loose and the stability for setting up tricks was godly. really on the fence if i should dip my toes into truck madness again and get a pair of 5.6 hollows for my 8.5 hockey.

loving my 151 hollows but if i can run ventures equally loose while keeping the trademarked stability.....might have to convert
I wholeheartedly condone getting some ventures and swapping the bushings. I got a set of 5.8s with bones softs, no bottom washer, on a hockey 8.5" and it's a dream. All the turn I need but still stable.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 03, 2020, 06:50:08 PM
Anyone rocking V-Light / V-Hollow hanger with a cast baseplate? I'm going down in board length and WB (31.75 to 31.6 / 14.25 to 14) with steep kicks. Still looking for that heavy / floaty pop without creating an unskateable monstrosity.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on August 03, 2020, 07:38:57 PM
Anyone rocking V-Light / V-Hollow hanger with a cast baseplate? I'm going down in board length and WB (31.75 to 31.6 / 14.25 to 14) with steep kicks. Still looking for that heavy / floaty pop without creating an unskateable monstrosity.
Rocking the ti hangar and cast. Big fan
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 03, 2020, 08:28:12 PM
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Rocking the ti hangar and cast. Big fan

Cool, grabbing a pair of cast plate Ventures to stick onto my V-Hollow hangers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on August 04, 2020, 10:54:57 AM
Just bought a Prime Wood 7.5 x 31 yellow blank so I can re-live that size.
will have my polished 5.0 Lows on there, Carroll Diamond 7/8" allen,
Spitfire Bighead 52s and Swiss.

Inspiration has been watching a lot of Mouse & Chocolate Tour.
Also been working out my lame ankle in hopes that by the time the board shows up,
I can get some skating in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on August 04, 2020, 12:45:56 PM
man I hope there is some 5.2 Hollow Light Lo's going to be coming outta production soon before I hit the hangar on mine.

8.1 with 5.2's and 2 inside washers on the wheels has been the perfect set up for me lately . Finally learned good 360 flips after 20 years of skating.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on August 04, 2020, 12:56:32 PM
man I hope there is some 5.2 Hollow Light Lo's going to be coming outta production soon before I hit the hangar on mine.

8.1 with 5.2's and 2 inside washers on the wheels has been the perfect set up for me lately . Finally learned good 360 flips after 20 years of skating.

Tactics and many other places are selling 5.2 hollows already. 5.6 and higher seem to be a lot harder to find.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 04, 2020, 01:28:33 PM
Anyone rocking V-Light / V-Hollow hanger with a cast baseplate? I'm going down in board length and WB (31.75 to 31.6 / 14.25 to 14) with steep kicks. Still looking for that heavy / floaty pop without creating an unskateable monstrosity.

Tomorrow I will. Yes!!! Haha

I'll definitely do a comparison because I'm about to hit axle on my raws
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on August 04, 2020, 07:43:19 PM
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man I hope there is some 5.2 Hollow Light Lo's going to be coming outta production soon before I hit the hangar on mine.

8.1 with 5.2's and 2 inside washers on the wheels has been the perfect set up for me lately . Finally learned good 360 flips after 20 years of skating.
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Tactics and many other places are selling 5.2 hollows already. 5.6 and higher seem to be a lot harder to find.

The 8.25" seems to be way more popular than I think the industry thought it would be.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 04, 2020, 08:00:13 PM
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man I hope there is some 5.2 Hollow Light Lo's going to be coming outta production soon before I hit the hangar on mine.

8.1 with 5.2's and 2 inside washers on the wheels has been the perfect set up for me lately . Finally learned good 360 flips after 20 years of skating.
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Tactics and many other places are selling 5.2 hollows already. 5.6 and higher seem to be a lot harder to find.
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The 8.25" seems to be way more popular than I think the industry thought it would be.

I'm riding the pair I got from you and I've been loving it. 5.25 feels small for anything over 8".
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on August 05, 2020, 01:11:25 PM
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Still have not skated my new 5.0 Lows. My ankle does ye olde swell, just from walking around at work lately, so I am in no shape to get on a board currently. (I have mega tendon damage). They sure look nice, waiting on a setup though. May have to hold off until fall, pretty sure I have a bit of Tim O'Connoritis of the ankle. I do enjoy the lowrider look of the setup
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That sucks! Ankles are shitty. I’m trying to lose weight to help my lower extremities....rn I get to the point where I crouch down to explode into some flippery and then just....nope. Stand back up, slowly, take some more pushes. Too much mid leg pain. Anyways, hopefully you can find a way to work that ankle back into some shape. Rehab!
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Also trying to lose some weight. I could lose eh 15-20 lbs. Pretty sure it's mostly bloat from Dr. Pepper. I am addicted to that shit. I did go for the bike ride last night in the rain, so I'm kind of proud of myself for that. I do a bit of stretching but I procrastinate on it a lot more. I think once fall is here, I always get more motivated. My ankle does appreciate that work, that riding up a hill on a bike, puts into it. It kind of seems like... 2 weeks of bike riding affords me 3-4 days of skating, but I'm pretty sure I need to ride a bike every day. (This also frustrates me because time riding a bike, is time i'd prefer to be skating of course)
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Re: the ankle,

I broke my leg a few years ago and got a super bad ankle sprain the the process. In PT they gave me a bunch of therabands to use at home and those were super helpful...great low impact way to starch and build up small muscle tissue. It helped me recover and kept things from atrophying.

https://orthonc.com/uploads/pdf/Ankle_Theraband.pdf (https://orthonc.com/uploads/pdf/Ankle_Theraband.pdf)

Inexpensive and you can do them while you work or watch TV or whatever.
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I've thrashed my ankles so many times and I thought I would never skate without a brace again at one point. It doesn't seem as common in the US, but in Europe we use balance boards for athletes a lot, especially in soccer. My physical therapist gave me some exercises for my knee before so I just started doing them for my ankle and the results were super fuckin good.. It's been a few years but I have zero ankle problems now.

If you don't have one of these, get one right away and just stand on it with one foot at the time and write your name with your other foot 5-10 times with each leg every day. It doesn't take that long but it will strengthen your ankle, along with your knees and thighs, so fucking much. 

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1452/9554/products/FitterBalanceBoardClassic_800x.jpg?v=1493333519)



All I can envision is you standing on the board with your good foot and sticking your bad foot out in front you spelling your name in air (is that what you mean?).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on August 07, 2020, 01:47:36 PM
Im skating a 5.8 as of now. Has anyone ever skated a pair with a wider deck?

I want to put these on a 9.2 Simon Bannerot deck that has this crazy short wheelbase.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on August 08, 2020, 11:18:05 PM
Im skating a 5.8 as of now. Has anyone ever skated a pair with a wider deck?

I want to put these on a 9.2 Simon Bannerot deck that has this crazy short wheelbase.

I ran mine with 6.1s, sit perfectly flush. Now running them on the love seat 9” and they also sit flush. You’ll be okay, but will probably be a little tippy. Run extra washers inside your wheels.

I tried the Venture’s after a suggestion from someone on here, pop feel is AMAZING but the turn is a bit odd considering the short wheelbase IMO and switching back to 159s this week.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on August 10, 2020, 10:27:23 PM
tried 5.6s hangars on thunder forged plates with riptide pivots and landed the best kickflips of my life. stability is on a whole new level even with rattly trucks and the turn is like diet thunder (might be the baseplate?)

thunder will always have a place in my heart but im switching over to venture for the time being. hyped to learn and land some flip tricks and not get crazy wheelbite :)

picking up a set of hollow 5.8s in the coming weeks. after a meh experience with 6.1s i finally get the hype

edit: if i can find some
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 11, 2020, 02:47:06 AM
tried 5.6s hangars on thunder forged plates with riptide pivots and landed the best kickflips of my life. stability is on a whole new level even with rattly trucks and the turn is like diet thunder (might be the baseplate?)

thunder will always have a place in my heart but im switching over to venture for the time being. hyped to learn and land some flip tricks and not get crazy wheelbite :)

picking up a set of hollow 5.8s in the coming weeks. after a meh experience with 6.1s i finally get the hype

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Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.

What was the eventual WB extension on this truck given the combination of Venture hanger + Thunder Baseplate? Any downsides?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Global Moderator on August 11, 2020, 06:18:59 AM
Anyone rocking V-Light / V-Hollow hanger with a cast baseplate? I'm going down in board length and WB (31.75 to 31.6 / 14.25 to 14) with steep kicks. Still looking for that heavy / floaty pop without creating an unskateable monstrosity.

Yup. 5.0 Lo Hollow hanger with cast baseplate. Love it!!!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on August 11, 2020, 10:13:11 AM
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tried 5.6s hangars on thunder forged plates with riptide pivots and landed the best kickflips of my life. stability is on a whole new level even with rattly trucks and the turn is like diet thunder (might be the baseplate?)

thunder will always have a place in my heart but im switching over to venture for the time being. hyped to learn and land some flip tricks and not get crazy wheelbite :)

picking up a set of hollow 5.8s in the coming weeks. after a meh experience with 6.1s i finally get the hype

edit: if i can find some
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What was the eventual WB extension on this truck given the combination of Venture hanger + Thunder Baseplate? Any downsides?
yeah the setup seems crazy but i didnt switch plates due to a mix of laziness and wanting to keep the "same" height.

measured the axle 2 axle wb with a 14.25 deck and got a little under 17.25....the pop feel doesnt feel like an indy....for the sake of my mental health id just say try it out yourself. cant explain it without contradicting everything i thought i knew but its working. gotta leave it at that before my head explodes :o

edit: too late down the wormhole again.
measured the 5.6 cast stock and got +3.18 to the wb. my 151 hollows are at +3.25. my frankentruck is at +2.875. how that makes any sense, not sure. never was a fan of wb shortening trucks but these just work.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 11, 2020, 11:59:31 AM
So I been on the hollows enough to say it's definitely my bag.

Im tr trying a different shape tonight. But it's One of the best setups I've had with the dlx 8.28. Manny machine yo.

The axles aren't going anywhere either. Im was landing primo like every other try at the many pad.

Haven't done too many grinds yet. I got to put the 101 a classics on with the ceramic bearings so I don't get heat stroke again

I strongly recommend anyone considering getting bigger ventures get the hollows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on August 11, 2020, 01:08:07 PM
I bought the 5.0 hi gino ventures just so I could have a gold cast plate on my 5.6 Tit hanger instead of the forged plates ;D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on August 11, 2020, 01:11:23 PM
y'all wild
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Firebert on August 11, 2020, 01:45:08 PM
Thankfully Indy sells baselates for $6 so I didn't have to do that  ;D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on August 16, 2020, 07:59:38 PM
are forged ventures actually the same height as cast? my common sense is telling me now but every site with measurements lists them at 53.5mm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on August 16, 2020, 08:37:52 PM
are forged ventures actually the same height as cast? my common sense is telling me now but every site with measurements lists them at 53.5mm

Pretty sure forged are 52mm.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on August 17, 2020, 09:18:16 AM
Well it is set up. Prime Wood LA 7.5x31, Venture Lo 5.0s, Spitfire 52s Diamond Carroll 7/8 allen, Swiss and Jessup

My 1996 revival setup is ready. Now I need some cooler weather. Been doing these lunge stretches on my bad foot/ ankle that I think are starting to help me out a bit. Feel like hot garbage at the start but I feel like it's working.

Wheels look big to me in the photo but not so much in person
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: slutbang666 on August 17, 2020, 03:23:39 PM
Anyone else running independent super soft white bushings in ventures? It feels good even with the nut flush. This might be the first time I’ve rode both washers on my trucks in 15 years!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sk8ordontordie on August 17, 2020, 07:04:16 PM
Just got my second pair of 5.6 this time hollows. Has anybody noticed the 5.6 are crazy loose? Like no matter what . I’ve skated 5.0 and 5.2 lows and also 5.8 hi and they are all way more right and stable feeling. And it’s not the bushings cause I swapped my 5.8 white bushings into them and they’re still super loose. Wonder if it’s the pivot cups or just the geometry. I’m skating then on 8.125 primitive board.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Junglist on August 17, 2020, 07:24:45 PM
Anyone else running independent super soft white bushings in ventures? It feels good even with the nut flush. This might be the first time I’ve rode both washers on my trucks in 15 years!

I have ace bushings with no boardside washer in my 5.6 hollows and it goes crazy &#129316;
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bbkksdds on August 17, 2020, 09:31:26 PM
indy aftermarket yellow in venture 5.6 polished
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on August 18, 2020, 06:00:04 AM
Just got my second pair of 5.6 this time hollows. Has anybody noticed the 5.6 are crazy loose? Like no matter what . I’ve skated 5.0 and 5.2 lows and also 5.8 hi and they are all way more right and stable feeling. And it’s not the bushings cause I swapped my 5.8 white bushings into them and they’re still super loose. Wonder if it’s the pivot cups or just the geometry. I’m skating then on 8.125 primitive board.

I just got some ventures for the first time. They are 5.6 and  they felt looser than anything I’ve skated. After the 3rd session I tightened them to try and get that stability. Granted I do feel more stable on on them for how loose they felt but now I got 2 threads showing and they feel normal. But they felt rattle loose when I got them. I’m a heavier guy also so I assumed that is why they felt this way
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fried on August 18, 2020, 11:35:10 AM
Is it just me or do ventures make you setup sound different? Like my board almost sounds hollow, and my wheels/bearings are louder. Sounds a lot different from my old indy’s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on August 18, 2020, 01:37:17 PM
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Just got my second pair of 5.6 this time hollows. Has anybody noticed the 5.6 are crazy loose? Like no matter what . I’ve skated 5.0 and 5.2 lows and also 5.8 hi and they are all way more right and stable feeling. And it’s not the bushings cause I swapped my 5.8 white bushings into them and they’re still super loose. Wonder if it’s the pivot cups or just the geometry. I’m skating then on 8.125 primitive board.
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I just got some ventures for the first time. They are 5.6 and  they felt looser than anything I’ve skated. After the 3rd session I tightened them to try and get that stability. Granted I do feel more stable on on them for how loose they felt but now I got 2 threads showing and they feel normal. But they felt rattle loose when I got them. I’m a heavier guy also so I assumed that is why they felt this way

They feel looser... looser than regular stock 5.8s I tried and 5.2s I rode for some time. My 5.6 hollows with my worn in 5.2 bushings threw me off a LOT – Venture says the bushings are the same duro, just different color. Swapped out the pivot cups for Riptides and the bushings for Bones Mediums and I'm really happy right now – if it wouldnt be for a half torn lcl.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on August 18, 2020, 01:38:34 PM
Is it just me or do ventures make you setup sound different? Like my board almost sounds hollow, and my wheels/bearings are louder. Sounds a lot different from my old indy’s

Made the switch from Indy at the beginning of the year: Ventures do sound brighter to me. I like it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sk8ordontordie on August 18, 2020, 07:35:39 PM
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Just got my second pair of 5.6 this time hollows. Has anybody noticed the 5.6 are crazy loose? Like no matter what . I’ve skated 5.0 and 5.2 lows and also 5.8 hi and they are all way more right and stable feeling. And it’s not the bushings cause I swapped my 5.8 white bushings into them and they’re still super loose. Wonder if it’s the pivot cups or just the geometry. I’m skating then on 8.125 primitive board.
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I just got some ventures for the first time. They are 5.6 and  they felt looser than anything I’ve skated. After the 3rd session I tightened them to try and get that stability. Granted I do feel more stable on on them for how loose they felt but now I got 2 threads showing and they feel normal. But they felt rattle loose when I got them. I’m a heavier guy also so I assumed that is why they felt this way
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They feel looser... looser than regular stock 5.8s I tried and 5.2s I rode for some time. My 5.6 hollows with my worn in 5.2 bushings threw me off a LOT – Venture says the bushings are the same duro, just different color. Swapped out the pivot cups for Riptides and the bushings for Bones Mediums and I'm really happy right now – if it wouldnt be for a half torn lcl.
Yeah the difference is crazy. I wonder what it is. It’s not the bushings, it must be something else. Wondering if I should go to 5.2 again for that venture stability.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Just Giver on August 22, 2020, 06:53:59 PM
Shalom pals,

I just got a fifty spot for my birthday and have been convinced to buy some Ventures.  My pop has been straight ass since my knee surgery a few years ago, and I tried a friends board with with 6.1s the other day and I felt like my was easier. 

How can I make them as surfy as possible? Bones mediums?  Remove Washers?  I've been digging the ace turn, but with my jacked back knee and the short wheel base I've been scrapping my ollies. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on August 22, 2020, 07:01:52 PM
Shalom pals,

I just got a fifty spot for my birthday and have been convinced to buy some Ventures.  My pop has been straight ass since my knee surgery a few years ago, and I tried a friends board with with 6.1s the other day and I felt like my was easier. 

How can I make them as surfy as possible? Bones mediums?  Remove Washers?  I've been digging the ace turn, but with my jacked back knee and the short wheel base I've been scrapping my ollies.

Just replace top washer with a flat bones washer, be patient and don't go down the truck rabbit hole lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on August 25, 2020, 10:40:15 PM
whats the biggest deck you guys have setup on venture lows?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Solid bowlcut on August 25, 2020, 11:27:53 PM
whats the biggest deck you guys have setup on venture lows?
I did ride 8.38 with them, but i've always liked magic carpet feeling
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 25, 2020, 11:38:27 PM
whats the biggest deck you guys have setup on venture lows?

8" for me, cast plate with the hollow hanger has been working great for me. Pinch and stability on grinds have been on point for me since going from 5.6 V-Hollow to 5.2 Hybrid Low.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on August 26, 2020, 04:40:14 AM
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Shalom pals,

I just got a fifty spot for my birthday and have been convinced to buy some Ventures.  My pop has been straight ass since my knee surgery a few years ago, and I tried a friends board with with 6.1s the other day and I felt like my was easier. 

How can I make them as surfy as possible? Bones mediums?  Remove Washers?  I've been digging the ace turn, but with my jacked back knee and the short wheel base I've been scrapping my ollies.
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Just replace top washer with a flat bones washer, be patient and don't go down the truck rabbit hole lol

This is the best answer. I shaved down my top bushing so I could use the stock washer but it's the same effect.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on August 26, 2020, 06:41:47 AM
whats the biggest deck you guys have setup on venture lows?

8.18 on 5.2 lows. Was actually pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on August 26, 2020, 07:10:22 AM
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I did ride 8.38 with them, but i've always liked magic carpet feeling

Same. I know Fletch from DOA was running that combo for a while. I also ran extra washers inside.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Junglist on August 26, 2020, 08:52:51 AM
Magic carpet feeling is the shit man, it gets a bad rap on here for no fucking reason. 139’s on 8.5 like Reynolds was my shit for good minute
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Solid bowlcut on August 26, 2020, 11:13:42 AM
I mean it comes down how you skate. If you flip your board lot, magic carpet makes your flip tricks so on point.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on August 26, 2020, 01:31:46 PM
oh boy im about to SIN
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on September 01, 2020, 01:44:54 AM
Would I be insane to skate a 8.38 on my v hollow 5.2? Or would that be too magic carpet?

I'm 6 foot and want to try a longer wb. I usually go between 14 - 14.25 but I'm thinking now the longer wb would suit my leg length.


8.38" Wide
32.25" Long
14.5" Wheelsbase
 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pastasash on September 01, 2020, 06:06:04 AM
Hey guys, long time Indy rider here but looking to try something different (like everyone else now) and wanna give Ventures a feel.

Been riding stage 11 159 Indys for almost a decade now but looking into the 5.8 his specifically those new Bustcrew ones. I ride 8.5s btw.

Wanted to know if the height is the same or close enough to Indy 159s. I saw that theyre a bit smaller in axel length online, which im fine with, but nothing about the height comparison.

Any other info I should know or expect from the change from Indys would also be much appreciated, thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on September 01, 2020, 06:19:44 AM
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switched to ventures from riding indys for a solid 10 years. had no problems adjusting to it. turning radius is similar overall, but more initial pressure is needed to make it turn, if that makes sense. which makes the truck feel more stable and less wobbly when you approach a ledge for example. i really like mine and will probably stick to ventures for the foreseeable future. no idea how high the trucks are compared to each other, but ventures have a shitton of meat on the hanger to grind through, they seem to grind down rather easy though, just keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 01, 2020, 09:32:52 AM
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switched to ventures from riding indys for a solid 10 years. had no problems adjusting to it. turning radius is similar overall, but more initial pressure is needed to make it turn, if that makes sense. which makes the truck feel more stable and less wobbly when you approach a ledge for example. i really like mine and will probably stick to ventures for the foreseeable future. no idea how high the trucks are compared to each other, but ventures have a shitton of meat on the hanger to grind through, they seem to grind down rather easy though, just keep that in mind.
As Ben Degros said, they have a lot of lean before the turn. I usually ride Venture 5.2 or 5.6 and went out for a cruise on a set of Indy 139, the Indys despite being less worn in immediately had a surf-y turn. Height wise the Indy is 55 and the Venture is 53.5, pretty negligible but I do have the best success on grinds with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo, by far the best pinch of the Venture family. They do have a harder grind that Thunder or Indys but I like when the hanger bites into the ledge instead of slicing through.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pastasash on September 01, 2020, 12:11:01 PM
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switched to ventures from riding indys for a solid 10 years. had no problems adjusting to it. turning radius is similar overall, but more initial pressure is needed to make it turn, if that makes sense. which makes the truck feel more stable and less wobbly when you approach a ledge for example. i really like mine and will probably stick to ventures for the foreseeable future. no idea how high the trucks are compared to each other, but ventures have a shitton of meat on the hanger to grind through, they seem to grind down rather easy though, just keep that in mind.
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As Ben Degros said, they have a lot of lean before the turn. I usually ride Venture 5.2 or 5.6 and went out for a cruise on a set of Indy 139, the Indys despite being less worn in immediately had a surf-y turn. Height wise the Indy is 55 and the Venture is 53.5, pretty negligible but I do have the best success on grinds with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo, by far the best pinch of the Venture family. They do have a harder grind that Thunder or Indys but I like when the hanger bites into the ledge instead of slicing through.

Thanks for the info guys, much appreciated!

Good to know about the turning on Ventures, im sure that is something I could get easily used to. I mostly skate ledges, flatbars, mellow handrails, and minis/qp’s so figured they would still perform well on those things. Main thing I was curious about was the grind clearance off ledges. Lately feel like my Indys kinda drag or lag behind when coming off a grind but might be cus theyre almost 4yrs old.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 01, 2020, 02:31:26 PM
30 minutes in and i can fairly say my mad experiment is working. venture 5.2 hollows with "aftermarket" washers and stock bushings on an 8.5 hockey. more takeaways after this 6 hour session is over
(https://i.ibb.co/5YKqnt6/EF1-CCA54-0031-4-ADF-82-FF-9550370-C9-AC0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DGr38st)
(https://i.ibb.co/6ZNNLfM/289-E7-CB5-E0-C7-4-C34-BD6-B-299-B8-AFD9-F5-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LPvvH2F)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: slutbang666 on September 01, 2020, 02:46:53 PM
whats the biggest deck you guys have setup on venture lows?
8.5 double fist toy machine on 5.0 lows in 2003 haha
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on September 01, 2020, 04:53:23 PM
30 minutes in and i can fairly say my mad experiment is working. venture 5.2 hollows with "aftermarket" washers and stock bushings on an 8.5 hockey. more takeaways after this 6 hour session is over
(https://i.ibb.co/5YKqnt6/EF1-CCA54-0031-4-ADF-82-FF-9550370-C9-AC0.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DGr38st)
(https://i.ibb.co/6ZNNLfM/289-E7-CB5-E0-C7-4-C34-BD6-B-299-B8-AFD9-F5-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LPvvH2F)
shit goes off. Well done
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 01, 2020, 07:11:12 PM
Hot wheels.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on September 01, 2020, 09:24:35 PM
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switched to ventures from riding indys for a solid 10 years. had no problems adjusting to it. turning radius is similar overall, but more initial pressure is needed to make it turn, if that makes sense. which makes the truck feel more stable and less wobbly when you approach a ledge for example. i really like mine and will probably stick to ventures for the foreseeable future. no idea how high the trucks are compared to each other, but ventures have a shitton of meat on the hanger to grind through, they seem to grind down rather easy though, just keep that in mind.
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As Ben Degros said, they have a lot of lean before the turn. I usually ride Venture 5.2 or 5.6 and went out for a cruise on a set of Indy 139, the Indys despite being less worn in immediately had a surf-y turn. Height wise the Indy is 55 and the Venture is 53.5, pretty negligible but I do have the best success on grinds with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo, by far the best pinch of the Venture family. They do have a harder grind that Thunder or Indys but I like when the hanger bites into the ledge instead of slicing through.
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Thanks for the info guys, much appreciated!

Good to know about the turning on Ventures, im sure that is something I could get easily used to. I mostly skate ledges, flatbars, mellow handrails, and minis/qp’s so figured they would still perform well on those things. Main thing I was curious about was the grind clearance off ledges. Lately feel like my Indys kinda drag or lag behind when coming off a grind but might be cus theyre almost 4yrs old.
Venture have way better grind clearance than Indy or thunder. Makes Smith grinds and feebles way easier. Crooks pinch like a dream too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 01, 2020, 10:11:48 PM
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switched to ventures from riding indys for a solid 10 years. had no problems adjusting to it. turning radius is similar overall, but more initial pressure is needed to make it turn, if that makes sense. which makes the truck feel more stable and less wobbly when you approach a ledge for example. i really like mine and will probably stick to ventures for the foreseeable future. no idea how high the trucks are compared to each other, but ventures have a shitton of meat on the hanger to grind through, they seem to grind down rather easy though, just keep that in mind.
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As Ben Degros said, they have a lot of lean before the turn. I usually ride Venture 5.2 or 5.6 and went out for a cruise on a set of Indy 139, the Indys despite being less worn in immediately had a surf-y turn. Height wise the Indy is 55 and the Venture is 53.5, pretty negligible but I do have the best success on grinds with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo, by far the best pinch of the Venture family. They do have a harder grind that Thunder or Indys but I like when the hanger bites into the ledge instead of slicing through.
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Thanks for the info guys, much appreciated!

Good to know about the turning on Ventures, im sure that is something I could get easily used to. I mostly skate ledges, flatbars, mellow handrails, and minis/qp’s so figured they would still perform well on those things. Main thing I was curious about was the grind clearance off ledges. Lately feel like my Indys kinda drag or lag behind when coming off a grind but might be cus theyre almost 4yrs old.
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Venture have way better grind clearance than Indy or thunder. Makes Smith grinds and feebles way easier. Crooks pinch like a dream too.

For sure, I've developed a psychological dependence on them for my crooked grinds. I'm not sure how much better the kingpin clearance is on the Ventures versus Thunder / Indys, but I've not hung up yet, probably don't dip my Smith grinds enough.

Better slide than Thunders too, you get that sweet baseplate slide instead of wheels.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pastasash on September 02, 2020, 03:52:58 AM
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switched to ventures from riding indys for a solid 10 years. had no problems adjusting to it. turning radius is similar overall, but more initial pressure is needed to make it turn, if that makes sense. which makes the truck feel more stable and less wobbly when you approach a ledge for example. i really like mine and will probably stick to ventures for the foreseeable future. no idea how high the trucks are compared to each other, but ventures have a shitton of meat on the hanger to grind through, they seem to grind down rather easy though, just keep that in mind.
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As Ben Degros said, they have a lot of lean before the turn. I usually ride Venture 5.2 or 5.6 and went out for a cruise on a set of Indy 139, the Indys despite being less worn in immediately had a surf-y turn. Height wise the Indy is 55 and the Venture is 53.5, pretty negligible but I do have the best success on grinds with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo, by far the best pinch of the Venture family. They do have a harder grind that Thunder or Indys but I like when the hanger bites into the ledge instead of slicing through.
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Thanks for the info guys, much appreciated!

Good to know about the turning on Ventures, im sure that is something I could get easily used to. I mostly skate ledges, flatbars, mellow handrails, and minis/qp’s so figured they would still perform well on those things. Main thing I was curious about was the grind clearance off ledges. Lately feel like my Indys kinda drag or lag behind when coming off a grind but might be cus theyre almost 4yrs old.
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Venture have way better grind clearance than Indy or thunder. Makes Smith grinds and feebles way easier. Crooks pinch like a dream too.
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For sure, I've developed a psychological dependence on them for my crooked grinds. I'm not sure how much better the kingpin clearance is on the Ventures versus Thunder / Indys, but I've not hung up yet, probably don't dip my Smith grinds enough.

Better slide than Thunders too, you get that sweet baseplate slide instead of wheels.

Yussss thats exactly what I was hoping to hear. Ive been having issues clearing off the crooks, feebles, and smiths, especially cus I dip hard on em, so this really helps.

Yeah im sold finna cop my first pair of Ventures, but gonna keep going on my Indys till I grind down to the axel since theyre almost there :)

Appreciate the info guys!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on September 02, 2020, 08:49:19 AM
I've not been out in the streets much (and no parks); pretty much just flatland and skating my bench/rail...no need to actually carve or turn as my area, while sufficient, doesn't allow for lots of turning around so the Ventures have worked out really well; the wheelbase is the only thing giving me trick weirdness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 02, 2020, 10:48:39 PM
anyone have a description of the venture superlite models? is it forged baseplate with hollow axles or forged with solid axles
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Junglist on September 03, 2020, 12:14:09 AM
I might be wrong but I think superlites aren’t made anymore, same with the featherlites, I think that was their designation between low and mid/high truck models at the time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 03, 2020, 01:45:19 PM
I might be wrong but I think superlites aren’t made anymore, same with the featherlites, I think that was their designation between low and mid/high truck models at the time.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Junglist on September 03, 2020, 02:24:09 PM
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I might be wrong but I think superlites aren’t made anymore, same with the featherlites, I think that was their designation between low and mid/high truck models at the time.
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Exactly.
Hell yeah! First thing I’ve been right about all year! Time to get drunk!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 03, 2020, 02:28:52 PM
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I might be wrong but I think superlites aren’t made anymore, same with the featherlites, I think that was their designation between low and mid/high truck models at the time.
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Exactly.
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Hell yeah! First thing I’ve been right about all year! Time to get drunk!
its 5:30 EST so cheers!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 04, 2020, 09:11:42 PM
Anyone ride 8.125 boards with 5.2 Lo? Thought the bigger 5.6 would give more stability and rooms for grinds but I'm not a fan of the added heft. I rode it on a 8.125 x 31.8 x 14.125 poo feel was too light with case plates, too heavy with forged plates.

My 5.2s are also more worn in so they grind nicer, plus I like the reduced height. I've been enjoying riding them with cast plates for the reduced WB extension.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on September 06, 2020, 10:32:35 AM
Currently on v-hollow lights 5.6; just purchased standard polished. The idea was to move hollow hanger onto cast baseplates. Now I’m thinking about running the standard polished as-is first to see if I like the added heft. Anyone have experience riding both and/or a strong preference between the two?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Junglist on September 06, 2020, 10:43:16 AM
Currently on v-hollow lights 5.6; just purchased standard polished. The idea was to move hollow hanger onto cast baseplates. Now I’m thinking about running the standard polished as-is first to see if I like the added heft. Anyone have experience riding both and/or a strong preference between the two?
In my post history I’m sure you’ll see I never shut the fuck up about how the forged baseplate makes the truck even better, and not taking away anything that makes the cast good. If you have both try them though, there’s nothing to lose there.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on September 06, 2020, 11:16:23 AM
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Currently on v-hollow lights 5.6; just purchased standard polished. The idea was to move hollow hanger onto cast baseplates. Now I’m thinking about running the standard polished as-is first to see if I like the added heft. Anyone have experience riding both and/or a strong preference between the two?
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In my post history I’m sure you’ll see I never shut the fuck up about how the forged baseplate makes the truck even better, and not taking away anything that makes the cast good. If you have both try them though, there’s nothing to lose there.

Thanks for the response. I ride 54mm wheels, so I thought the slight lift of the casts might help a bit with wheel bite. Also, I have read the cast pulls in the wheelbase a tiny amount. I will play around with polished standards and then a frankentruck and see what feels best. All said and done, I wouldn’t be surprised if I end up back on the v hollow lights (which is to say, right where I started). Damn the madness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 06, 2020, 12:35:53 PM
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Currently on v-hollow lights 5.6; just purchased standard polished. The idea was to move hollow hanger onto cast baseplates. Now I’m thinking about running the standard polished as-is first to see if I like the added heft. Anyone have experience riding both and/or a strong preference between the two?
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In my post history I’m sure you’ll see I never shut the fuck up about how the forged baseplate makes the truck even better, and not taking away anything that makes the cast good. If you have both try them though, there’s nothing to lose there.
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Thanks for the response. I ride 54mm wheels, so I thought the slight lift of the casts might help a bit with wheel bite. Also, I have read the cast pulls in the wheelbase a tiny amount. I will play around with polished standards and then a frankentruck and see what feels best. All said and done, I wouldn’t be surprised if I end up back on the v hollow lights (which is to say, right where I started). Damn the madness.

I get way more wheel bite on my raws.

It could be I run a flat washer on the raws? They definitely turn way better.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 06, 2020, 07:57:29 PM
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Currently on v-hollow lights 5.6; just purchased standard polished. The idea was to move hollow hanger onto cast baseplates. Now I’m thinking about running the standard polished as-is first to see if I like the added heft. Anyone have experience riding both and/or a strong preference between the two?
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In my post history I’m sure you’ll see I never shut the fuck up about how the forged baseplate makes the truck even better, and not taking away anything that makes the cast good. If you have both try them though, there’s nothing to lose there.
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Thanks for the response. I ride 54mm wheels, so I thought the slight lift of the casts might help a bit with wheel bite. Also, I have read the cast pulls in the wheelbase a tiny amount. I will play around with polished standards and then a frankentruck and see what feels best. All said and done, I wouldn’t be surprised if I end up back on the v hollow lights (which is to say, right where I started). Damn the madness.

Messed around with both cast and forged baseplates on my 5.2 V-Hollow. I go cast when riding shorter boards with shorter WB (31.6 x 14), forged on longer boards with short WB (31.8 x 14.125). Personal preference for the latter since I pop heavy and going cast gives me some ghost pop since it's too light with a wimpy pop.

What worked best for me was pairing truck sizes to deck sizes. Tried riding a 8.125 with 5.6 V-Hollow with both cast and forged and the pendulum swung both ways. Cast - board was too light, I was jumping 3 feet, my board only wanted to come up 2. Forged - board felt too heavy. But going down to a 5.2 really put the setup together; the proportion felt home.

(yeah I'm that much of a baby about dimensions)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sk8ordontordie on September 07, 2020, 01:29:13 AM
Anyone ride 8.125 boards with 5.2 Lo? Thought the bigger 5.6 would give more stability and rooms for grinds but I'm not a fan of the added heft. I rode it on a 8.125 x 31.8 x 14.125 poo feel was too light with case plates, too heavy with forged plates.

My 5.2s are also more worn in so they grind nicer, plus I like the reduced height. I've been enjoying riding them with cast plates for the reduced WB extension.
Yup I just went back from the 5.6 to 5.2 low on the primitive 8.125. It’s amazing and all my tricks I was missing from ghost pop are back to feeling comfortable.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on September 07, 2020, 10:11:51 AM
Question: the ghost pop problem people keep referring to is due to extra height, extra wheelbase, or a combination of both?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on September 07, 2020, 10:46:35 AM
Anyone ride 8.125 boards with 5.2 Lo? Thought the bigger 5.6 would give more stability and rooms for grinds but I'm not a fan of the added heft. I rode it on a 8.125 x 31.8 x 14.125 poo feel was too light with case plates, too heavy with forged plates.

My 5.2s are also more worn in so they grind nicer, plus I like the reduced height. I've been enjoying riding them with cast plates for the reduced WB extension.

5.2s on a DLX 8.06 Full Shape feels awesome. I dont really have much madness for gear though. I just think of my board as and 8” and used the venture chart to size the trucks. They’re also v-light his but I dont notice much, just like them more or maybe the same as indy 139s with bones meds.

Fuck, I didnt even adjust them now that I think about it haha.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on September 07, 2020, 11:05:53 AM
Question: the ghost pop problem people keep referring to is due to extra height, extra wheelbase, or a combination of both?

People blaming the gear and not themselves... :P

Seriously (?) tho, it's a combination of truck height + degree of kick + kick length (and WB of course) and how your pop works...it's different for everyone, e.g., I ollie better on steep, short tails few fingers of flat than I do on long, mellow kicks with two+ fingers of flat, and since I tend to ride 52/53.5mm trucks, it's not much difference when it comes to adjustments of I switch truck brands.

I don't buy into the idea that truck geo has anything to do with your pop...so when people say Venture pop is 'better' it's due to the height of the truck..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Junglist on September 07, 2020, 01:13:48 PM
hahahahahahahaha how the fuck is ghost pop real hahahahahaha just put more effort into your ollie like bro pop your board
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on September 07, 2020, 01:31:22 PM
hahahahahahahaha how the fuck is ghost pop real hahahahahaha just put more effort into your ollie like bro pop your board

Lol I assume this is the solution, but I was trying to see if I understand what people were talking about.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on September 07, 2020, 03:11:40 PM
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Anyone ride 8.125 boards with 5.2 Lo? Thought the bigger 5.6 would give more stability and rooms for grinds but I'm not a fan of the added heft. I rode it on a 8.125 x 31.8 x 14.125 poo feel was too light with case plates, too heavy with forged plates.

My 5.2s are also more worn in so they grind nicer, plus I like the reduced height. I've been enjoying riding them with cast plates for the reduced WB extension.
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Yup I just went back from the 5.6 to 5.2 low on the primitive 8.125. It’s amazing and all my tricks I was missing from ghost pop are back to feeling comfortable.

also ride an 8.18 or 8.125 on 5.2 Lows, quite possible my best set up I've experienced yet.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Junglist on September 07, 2020, 03:54:33 PM
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hahahahahahahaha how the fuck is ghost pop real hahahahahaha just put more effort into your ollie like bro pop your board
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Lol I assume this is the solution, but I was trying to see if I understand what people were talking about.
I'm just playing lol theres just a lot of terms that confuse me when people talk about this type of stuff
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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on September 07, 2020, 06:18:42 PM
i had the ghost pop thing, it's also called not having any pop, or lacking pop. or attempting to pop, but actually barely scraping.

you can overcome this by taping a brick to your kickfoot, to increase downforce on the pop. this, however, will make it harder to follow with that foot, but works out your ankles. you can try and balance things out by taping a brick to your other foot as well, or play around with left/right ratios for manuals.

you can also tape a brick under your ventures to keep your board from rolling, if rolling on your board concerns you.

if the skateboard is too long to put in your backpack, just take an axe and hack it in half. a good alternative to carrying your board with a backpack would be an urn, but you need to burn down your board to ashes first.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on September 07, 2020, 07:27:23 PM
Instructions unclear, skateboard burned down me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on September 08, 2020, 07:20:09 AM
Ok I'm getting a second pair of ventures for a 7.5 DOA board I have ordered.

So I usually ride the run of the mill cast Los. But I want to get Hollow Los.

My question is ... Is there any difference in height or wheelbase with the normal ones and the hollow ones ? The reason in asking is I could have sworn I saw that written somewhere.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on September 08, 2020, 09:19:41 AM
Instructions unclear, skateboard burned down me.

not sure what was so unclear, just know that if you have trouble incinerating the skateboard and are missing an urn a good way to deal with this is to get a bodybag, put the board in, go to a crematory and pretend your board is a dead person so they burn it down for you. you can usually purchase an urn in the same go, too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 08, 2020, 09:26:27 AM
Ok I'm getting a second pair of ventures for a 7.5 DOA board I have ordered.

So I usually ride the run of the mill cast Los. But I want to get Hollow Los.

My question is ... Is there any difference in height or wheelbase with the normal ones and the hollow ones ? The reason in asking is I could have sworn I saw that written somewhere.

Standard Ventures with Cast Baseplate : +3.25" to WB
Light / hollow ventures with forged baseplate: +3.4 - 3.5" to WB

Despite the addition to WB, forged WB combine with the hollow kingpin (and or axle) to reduce overall weight to compensate for the wheelbase addition.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on September 08, 2020, 10:06:46 AM
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Ok I'm getting a second pair of ventures for a 7.5 DOA board I have ordered.

So I usually ride the run of the mill cast Los. But I want to get Hollow Los.

My question is ... Is there any difference in height or wheelbase with the normal ones and the hollow ones ? The reason in asking is I could have sworn I saw that written somewhere.
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Standard Ventures with Cast Baseplate : +3.25" to WB
Light / hollow ventures with forged baseplate: +3.4 - 3.5" to WB

Despite the addition to WB, forged WB combine with the hollow kingpin (and or axle) to reduce overall weight to compensate for the wheelbase addition.

Great help man thank you.

I don't want to mess with my WB.

Although the +.25 would be hardly noticable surely?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on September 08, 2020, 12:47:51 PM
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Instructions unclear, skateboard burned down me.
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not sure what was so unclear, just know that if you have trouble incinerating the skateboard and are missing an urn a good way to deal with this is to get a bodybag, put the board in, go to a crematory and pretend your board is a dead person so they burn it down for you. you can usually purchase an urn in the same go, too.

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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 08, 2020, 07:37:34 PM
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Ok I'm getting a second pair of ventures for a 7.5 DOA board I have ordered.

So I usually ride the run of the mill cast Los. But I want to get Hollow Los.

My question is ... Is there any difference in height or wheelbase with the normal ones and the hollow ones ? The reason in asking is I could have sworn I saw that written somewhere.
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Standard Ventures with Cast Baseplate : +3.25" to WB
Light / hollow ventures with forged baseplate: +3.4 - 3.5" to WB

Despite the addition to WB, forged WB combine with the hollow kingpin (and or axle) to reduce overall weight to compensate for the wheelbase addition.
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Great help man thank you.

I don't want to mess with my WB.

Although the +.25 would be hardly noticable surely?

Depends if you're a Dandelion (adapt to your setup) or Orchid (anal about your setup). I definitely felt the difference riding cast and forged on the 5.6.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on September 09, 2020, 12:24:28 AM
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Ok I'm getting a second pair of ventures for a 7.5 DOA board I have ordered.

So I usually ride the run of the mill cast Los. But I want to get Hollow Los.

My question is ... Is there any difference in height or wheelbase with the normal ones and the hollow ones ? The reason in asking is I could have sworn I saw that written somewhere.
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Standard Ventures with Cast Baseplate : +3.25" to WB
Light / hollow ventures with forged baseplate: +3.4 - 3.5" to WB

Despite the addition to WB, forged WB combine with the hollow kingpin (and or axle) to reduce overall weight to compensate for the wheelbase addition.
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Great help man thank you.

I don't want to mess with my WB.

Although the +.25 would be hardly noticable surely?
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Depends if you're a Dandelion (adapt to your setup) or Orchid (anal about your setup). I definitely felt the difference riding cast and forged on the 5.6.

I think I'm an orchid but I'm gonna try to become a dandelion.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 09, 2020, 01:21:13 AM
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Ok I'm getting a second pair of ventures for a 7.5 DOA board I have ordered.

So I usually ride the run of the mill cast Los. But I want to get Hollow Los.

My question is ... Is there any difference in height or wheelbase with the normal ones and the hollow ones ? The reason in asking is I could have sworn I saw that written somewhere.
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Standard Ventures with Cast Baseplate : +3.25" to WB
Light / hollow ventures with forged baseplate: +3.4 - 3.5" to WB

Despite the addition to WB, forged WB combine with the hollow kingpin (and or axle) to reduce overall weight to compensate for the wheelbase addition.
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Great help man thank you.

I don't want to mess with my WB.

Although the +.25 would be hardly noticable surely?
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Depends if you're a Dandelion (adapt to your setup) or Orchid (anal about your setup). I definitely felt the difference riding cast and forged on the 5.6.
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I think I'm an orchid but I'm gonna try to become a dandelion.

Spending more time skating and less time on Slap is the first step.

(He says as he posts on the message board in the middle of a beautiful sunny day perfect for skating)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on September 09, 2020, 08:18:09 PM
I hope I’m a dandelion, but I’m probably just a run of the mill stenchblossom.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 10, 2020, 01:37:43 AM
finally got used to the height change of my setup with the venture lows and im in love. oddly enough figured out how to pop waist high (tall people waist) on the lowest truck ive ever owned. stability helps me focus more on the trick than squirming all over the place, and doesnt have to be jiggly loose to enjoy the turn. i could slide on the iron nyc curbs for miles. everything has gotten so much easier in the last 2 weeks and i swear its not just the marketing.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on September 10, 2020, 05:30:41 AM
finally got used to the height change of my setup with the venture lows and im in love. oddly enough figured out how to pop waist high (tall people waist) on the lowest truck ive ever owned. stability helps me focus more on the trick than squirming all over the place, and doesnt have to be jiggly loose to enjoy the turn. i could slide on the iron nyc curbs for miles. everything has gotten so much easier in the last 2 weeks and i swear its not just the marketing.

I don't think I've ever said this because there is no rational basis for it, but I've always felt that being tall (I was already 6' when I started skating at 13) made me prefer a lower setup to compensate for for my higher center of gravity.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on September 10, 2020, 05:50:58 AM
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finally got used to the height change of my setup with the venture lows and im in love. oddly enough figured out how to pop waist high (tall people waist) on the lowest truck ive ever owned. stability helps me focus more on the trick than squirming all over the place, and doesnt have to be jiggly loose to enjoy the turn. i could slide on the iron nyc curbs for miles. everything has gotten so much easier in the last 2 weeks and i swear its not just the marketing.
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I don't think I've ever said this because there is no rational basis for it, but I've always felt that being tall (I was already 6' when I started skating at 13) made me prefer a lower setup to compensate for for my higher center of gravity.
Interesting thought and i have never considered that either being 6'4". But I do feel better on a lower set up as well.. less tippy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on September 10, 2020, 06:12:05 AM
i'm 6'4 also and couldnt agree more.  i skated Ventures as a kid and then it was Indy my whole life until about 2 years ago.  ever since coming back to them my skating overall is just more confident
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on September 10, 2020, 08:24:47 AM
yeah just started riding a pair of Ti Indy's which are 53.5mm high, same as ventures, so it's not bad - don't think i could go lower with wheel size/wheelbite
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ballintoohard on September 13, 2020, 08:11:57 PM
So are all you tall dudes on Venture Low?

I skated Venture Low and Thunders growing up and was 6 foot 3 at age 14. I have never really gotten used to Stage 11 and the best Indy's have felt is when I had some 139 Forged Ti. I like my Thunder Ti lites a lot, which are the lowest of the Thunders but maybe going to 147 or Venture Low makes more sense.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 13, 2020, 09:06:51 PM
So are all you tall dudes on Venture Low?

I skated Venture Low and Thunders growing up and was 6 foot 3 at age 14. I have never really gotten used to Stage 11 and the best Indy's have felt is when I had some 139 Forged Ti. I like my Thunder Ti lites a lot, which are the lowest of the Thunders but maybe going to 147 or Venture Low makes more sense.
i cant recommend venture lows/steep kicks enough especially for taller skaters. board low to the ground feels ideal to me at 6'5. i now realize why indys at 55mm were the worst trucks i ever owned. felt like standing on a balance beam when riding as loose as i prefer with my lanky body. getting high and stable pop is so much easier when the tail is lower. never going cast for anything again, wide and low is now a requirement for any future setup. added WB is a plus for my long ass legs.

this thread is dead (sadly) but has tall pal setups
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109009.0

everyone skates differently and different shit but for someone who does a lot of jumping, id say 52mm height trucks and below have worked the best for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on September 13, 2020, 09:42:16 PM
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So are all you tall dudes on Venture Low?

I skated Venture Low and Thunders growing up and was 6 foot 3 at age 14. I have never really gotten used to Stage 11 and the best Indy's have felt is when I had some 139 Forged Ti. I like my Thunder Ti lites a lot, which are the lowest of the Thunders but maybe going to 147 or Venture Low makes more sense.
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i cant recommend venture lows/steep kicks enough especially for taller skaters. board low to the ground feels ideal to me at 6'5. i now realize why indys at 55mm were the worst trucks i ever owned. felt like standing on a balance beam when riding as loose as i prefer with my lanky body. getting high and stable pop is so much easier when the tail is lower. never going cast for anything again, wide and low is now a requirement for any future setup. added WB is a plus for my long ass legs.

this thread is dead (sadly) but has tall pal setups
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109009.0

everyone skates differently and different shit but for someone who does a lot of jumping, id say 52mm height trucks and below have worked the best for me.

I always rode wide (8.3s) and low (pre Thunder 149 revamp thunder hollows @49mm with bones meds were all I rode, with 53mm wheels, WB was a bitch but it got me some height)...when I watched a vid with Lewis Marnnell (RIP) where he said wide and low, man...I felt vindicated...and dropped my wheels size.

Indy Ti (forged) are the highest I can go (sorry ATGs we had to break up)...the tippy balance beam for 55mm trucks is how I feel as well, it's just wrong...I'm only 5'10" but I feel the same...even better now that I've dropped down to 51/50mm wheels again...maybe it's the 90s skater in me :P I've got an 8.3 with 8.3 ML and 50mm wheels and it's a fucking blast...if Venture would make a 5.6 low, I'd bite but the forged 5.6 is the best we're gonna get I think.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 13, 2020, 10:38:02 PM
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So are all you tall dudes on Venture Low?

I skated Venture Low and Thunders growing up and was 6 foot 3 at age 14. I have never really gotten used to Stage 11 and the best Indy's have felt is when I had some 139 Forged Ti. I like my Thunder Ti lites a lot, which are the lowest of the Thunders but maybe going to 147 or Venture Low makes more sense.
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i cant recommend venture lows/steep kicks enough especially for taller skaters. board low to the ground feels ideal to me at 6'5. i now realize why indys at 55mm were the worst trucks i ever owned. felt like standing on a balance beam when riding as loose as i prefer with my lanky body. getting high and stable pop is so much easier when the tail is lower. never going cast for anything again, wide and low is now a requirement for any future setup. added WB is a plus for my long ass legs.

this thread is dead (sadly) but has tall pal setups
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109009.0

everyone skates differently and different shit but for someone who does a lot of jumping, id say 52mm height trucks and below have worked the best for me.
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I always rode wide (8.3s) and low (pre Thunder 149 revamp thunder hollows @49mm with bones meds were all I rode, with 53mm wheels, WB was a bitch but it got me some height)...when I watched a vid with Lewis Marnnell (RIP) where he said wide and low, man...I felt vindicated...and dropped my wheels size.

Indy Ti (forged) are the highest I can go (sorry ATGs we had to break up)...the tippy balance beam for 55mm trucks is how I feel as well, it's just wrong...I'm only 5'10" but I feel the same...even better now that I've dropped down to 51/50mm wheels again...maybe it's the 90s skater in me :P I've got an 8.3 with 8.3 ML and 50mm wheels and it's a fucking blast...if Venture would make a 5.6 low, I'd bite but the forged 5.6 is the best we're gonna get I think.
im so satisfied with my 5.2 low and 8.5 experiment that i would shell out for a 5.6 low/8.75 deck combo. based on the 6.1 release, im assuming it would be a long wait for the forged options but thats really the dream truck. fuck, id even use my own forged plates with the raw hangers during that wait.

with all ML trucks being 47mm tall (7.13 - 8.75 axles), i cant help but think the 5.8 and 6.1 get the low treatment sometime down the road. venture has a lot less selection than thunder and that could level things out a bit. just speculation though....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 13, 2020, 10:56:29 PM
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So are all you tall dudes on Venture Low?

I skated Venture Low and Thunders growing up and was 6 foot 3 at age 14. I have never really gotten used to Stage 11 and the best Indy's have felt is when I had some 139 Forged Ti. I like my Thunder Ti lites a lot, which are the lowest of the Thunders but maybe going to 147 or Venture Low makes more sense.
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i cant recommend venture lows/steep kicks enough especially for taller skaters. board low to the ground feels ideal to me at 6'5. i now realize why indys at 55mm were the worst trucks i ever owned. felt like standing on a balance beam when riding as loose as i prefer with my lanky body. getting high and stable pop is so much easier when the tail is lower. never going cast for anything again, wide and low is now a requirement for any future setup. added WB is a plus for my long ass legs.

this thread is dead (sadly) but has tall pal setups
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109009.0

everyone skates differently and different shit but for someone who does a lot of jumping, id say 52mm height trucks and below have worked the best for me.
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I always rode wide (8.3s) and low (pre Thunder 149 revamp thunder hollows @49mm with bones meds were all I rode, with 53mm wheels, WB was a bitch but it got me some height)...when I watched a vid with Lewis Marnnell (RIP) where he said wide and low, man...I felt vindicated...and dropped my wheels size.

Indy Ti (forged) are the highest I can go (sorry ATGs we had to break up)...the tippy balance beam for 55mm trucks is how I feel as well, it's just wrong...I'm only 5'10" but I feel the same...even better now that I've dropped down to 51/50mm wheels again...maybe it's the 90s skater in me :P I've got an 8.3 with 8.3 ML and 50mm wheels and it's a fucking blast...if Venture would make a 5.6 low, I'd bite but the forged 5.6 is the best we're gonna get I think.
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im so satisfied with my 5.2 low and 8.5 experiment that i would shell out for a 5.6 low/8.75 deck combo. based on the 6.1 release, im assuming it would be a long wait for the forged options but thats really the dream truck. fuck, id even use my own forged plates with the raw hangers during that wait.

with all ML trucks being 47mm tall (7.13 - 8.75 axles), i cant help but think the 5.8 and 6.1 get the low treatment sometime down the road. venture has a lot less selection than thunder and that could level things out a bit. just speculation though....

I helped a tall friend (6 ft, tall by Asian standards.) setup a board since he wanted to get back on board. I went with Thunder Team Hollow plus 53mm Bones Easy Streets but after reading input from you guys it sounds like forged would have been a better option. I'll see if I can experiment with him going with Thunder Hollow Lights when I get a pair in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on September 13, 2020, 11:16:38 PM
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So are all you tall dudes on Venture Low?

I skated Venture Low and Thunders growing up and was 6 foot 3 at age 14. I have never really gotten used to Stage 11 and the best Indy's have felt is when I had some 139 Forged Ti. I like my Thunder Ti lites a lot, which are the lowest of the Thunders but maybe going to 147 or Venture Low makes more sense.
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i cant recommend venture lows/steep kicks enough especially for taller skaters. board low to the ground feels ideal to me at 6'5. i now realize why indys at 55mm were the worst trucks i ever owned. felt like standing on a balance beam when riding as loose as i prefer with my lanky body. getting high and stable pop is so much easier when the tail is lower. never going cast for anything again, wide and low is now a requirement for any future setup. added WB is a plus for my long ass legs.

this thread is dead (sadly) but has tall pal setups
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109009.0

everyone skates differently and different shit but for someone who does a lot of jumping, id say 52mm height trucks and below have worked the best for me.
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I always rode wide (8.3s) and low (pre Thunder 149 revamp thunder hollows @49mm with bones meds were all I rode, with 53mm wheels, WB was a bitch but it got me some height)...when I watched a vid with Lewis Marnnell (RIP) where he said wide and low, man...I felt vindicated...and dropped my wheels size.

Indy Ti (forged) are the highest I can go (sorry ATGs we had to break up)...the tippy balance beam for 55mm trucks is how I feel as well, it's just wrong...I'm only 5'10" but I feel the same...even better now that I've dropped down to 51/50mm wheels again...maybe it's the 90s skater in me :P I've got an 8.3 with 8.3 ML and 50mm wheels and it's a fucking blast...if Venture would make a 5.6 low, I'd bite but the forged 5.6 is the best we're gonna get I think.
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im so satisfied with my 5.2 low and 8.5 experiment that i would shell out for a 5.6 low/8.75 deck combo. based on the 6.1 release, im assuming it would be a long wait for the forged options but thats really the dream truck. fuck, id even use my own forged plates with the raw hangers during that wait.

with all ML trucks being 47mm tall (7.13 - 8.75 axles), i cant help but think the 5.8 and 6.1 get the low treatment sometime down the road. venture has a lot less selection than thunder and that could level things out a bit. just speculation though....
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I helped a tall friend (6 ft, tall by Asian standards.) setup a board since he wanted to get back on board. I went with Thunder Team Hollow plus 53mm Bones Easy Streets but after reading input from you guys it sounds like forged would have been a better option. I'll see if I can experiment with him going with Thunder Hollow Lights when I get a pair in.

Nah you should just keep him out of this rabbithole lol. I'm 6 5 and Asian and I've skated Thunders with forged and cast plates and both were fine.

Though I also tried Tensor atgs and at 55mm found them a little bit tippy. The past few years I've skated Indy Tis, Ventures with forged plates, Thunders with forged and hollow plates, as well as Aces, so nothing approaching the 55mm territory. Wheel size has varied a lot though, from 55mm all the way to worn down 47mm wheels. I would generally agree with the sentiment that I prefer a lower setup, but not sure if its related to height or just what I grew up skating.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 14, 2020, 12:25:46 AM
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So are all you tall dudes on Venture Low?

I skated Venture Low and Thunders growing up and was 6 foot 3 at age 14. I have never really gotten used to Stage 11 and the best Indy's have felt is when I had some 139 Forged Ti. I like my Thunder Ti lites a lot, which are the lowest of the Thunders but maybe going to 147 or Venture Low makes more sense.
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i cant recommend venture lows/steep kicks enough especially for taller skaters. board low to the ground feels ideal to me at 6'5. i now realize why indys at 55mm were the worst trucks i ever owned. felt like standing on a balance beam when riding as loose as i prefer with my lanky body. getting high and stable pop is so much easier when the tail is lower. never going cast for anything again, wide and low is now a requirement for any future setup. added WB is a plus for my long ass legs.

this thread is dead (sadly) but has tall pal setups
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109009.0

everyone skates differently and different shit but for someone who does a lot of jumping, id say 52mm height trucks and below have worked the best for me.
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I always rode wide (8.3s) and low (pre Thunder 149 revamp thunder hollows @49mm with bones meds were all I rode, with 53mm wheels, WB was a bitch but it got me some height)...when I watched a vid with Lewis Marnnell (RIP) where he said wide and low, man...I felt vindicated...and dropped my wheels size.

Indy Ti (forged) are the highest I can go (sorry ATGs we had to break up)...the tippy balance beam for 55mm trucks is how I feel as well, it's just wrong...I'm only 5'10" but I feel the same...even better now that I've dropped down to 51/50mm wheels again...maybe it's the 90s skater in me :P I've got an 8.3 with 8.3 ML and 50mm wheels and it's a fucking blast...if Venture would make a 5.6 low, I'd bite but the forged 5.6 is the best we're gonna get I think.
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im so satisfied with my 5.2 low and 8.5 experiment that i would shell out for a 5.6 low/8.75 deck combo. based on the 6.1 release, im assuming it would be a long wait for the forged options but thats really the dream truck. fuck, id even use my own forged plates with the raw hangers during that wait.

with all ML trucks being 47mm tall (7.13 - 8.75 axles), i cant help but think the 5.8 and 6.1 get the low treatment sometime down the road. venture has a lot less selection than thunder and that could level things out a bit. just speculation though....
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I helped a tall friend (6 ft, tall by Asian standards.) setup a board since he wanted to get back on board. I went with Thunder Team Hollow plus 53mm Bones Easy Streets but after reading input from you guys it sounds like forged would have been a better option. I'll see if I can experiment with him going with Thunder Hollow Lights when I get a pair in.
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Nah you should just keep him out of this rabbithole lol. I'm 6 5 and Asian and I've skated Thunders with forged and cast plates and both were fine.

Though I also tried Tensor atgs and at 55mm found them a little bit tippy. The past few years I've skated Indy Tis, Ventures with forged plates, Thunders with forged and hollow plates, as well as Aces, so nothing approaching the 55mm territory. Wheel size has varied a lot though, from 55mm all the way to worn down 47mm wheels. I would generally agree with the sentiment that I prefer a lower setup, but not sure if its related to height or just what I grew up skating.

Itchy hands, I'll leave the madness to myself.

Anyone have success with Ventures + short WB decks? I'm planning on riding an 8 x 31.6 x 14 next, steep kicks with medium concave. Thinking if I should stick to 5.2 V-Hollow Lo with forged or swap out for cast.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on September 14, 2020, 01:02:07 AM
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So are all you tall dudes on Venture Low?

I skated Venture Low and Thunders growing up and was 6 foot 3 at age 14. I have never really gotten used to Stage 11 and the best Indy's have felt is when I had some 139 Forged Ti. I like my Thunder Ti lites a lot, which are the lowest of the Thunders but maybe going to 147 or Venture Low makes more sense.
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i cant recommend venture lows/steep kicks enough especially for taller skaters. board low to the ground feels ideal to me at 6'5. i now realize why indys at 55mm were the worst trucks i ever owned. felt like standing on a balance beam when riding as loose as i prefer with my lanky body. getting high and stable pop is so much easier when the tail is lower. never going cast for anything again, wide and low is now a requirement for any future setup. added WB is a plus for my long ass legs.

this thread is dead (sadly) but has tall pal setups
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109009.0

everyone skates differently and different shit but for someone who does a lot of jumping, id say 52mm height trucks and below have worked the best for me.
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I always rode wide (8.3s) and low (pre Thunder 149 revamp thunder hollows @49mm with bones meds were all I rode, with 53mm wheels, WB was a bitch but it got me some height)...when I watched a vid with Lewis Marnnell (RIP) where he said wide and low, man...I felt vindicated...and dropped my wheels size.

Indy Ti (forged) are the highest I can go (sorry ATGs we had to break up)...the tippy balance beam for 55mm trucks is how I feel as well, it's just wrong...I'm only 5'10" but I feel the same...even better now that I've dropped down to 51/50mm wheels again...maybe it's the 90s skater in me :P I've got an 8.3 with 8.3 ML and 50mm wheels and it's a fucking blast...if Venture would make a 5.6 low, I'd bite but the forged 5.6 is the best we're gonna get I think.
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im so satisfied with my 5.2 low and 8.5 experiment that i would shell out for a 5.6 low/8.75 deck combo. based on the 6.1 release, im assuming it would be a long wait for the forged options but thats really the dream truck. fuck, id even use my own forged plates with the raw hangers during that wait.

with all ML trucks being 47mm tall (7.13 - 8.75 axles), i cant help but think the 5.8 and 6.1 get the low treatment sometime down the road. venture has a lot less selection than thunder and that could level things out a bit. just speculation though....
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I helped a tall friend (6 ft, tall by Asian standards.) setup a board since he wanted to get back on board. I went with Thunder Team Hollow plus 53mm Bones Easy Streets but after reading input from you guys it sounds like forged would have been a better option. I'll see if I can experiment with him going with Thunder Hollow Lights when I get a pair in.
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Nah you should just keep him out of this rabbithole lol. I'm 6 5 and Asian and I've skated Thunders with forged and cast plates and both were fine.

Though I also tried Tensor atgs and at 55mm found them a little bit tippy. The past few years I've skated Indy Tis, Ventures with forged plates, Thunders with forged and hollow plates, as well as Aces, so nothing approaching the 55mm territory. Wheel size has varied a lot though, from 55mm all the way to worn down 47mm wheels. I would generally agree with the sentiment that I prefer a lower setup, but not sure if its related to height or just what I grew up skating.
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Itchy hands, I'll leave the madness to myself.

Anyone have success with Ventures + short WB decks? I'm planning on riding an 8 x 31.6 x 14 next, steep kicks with medium concave. Thinking if I should stick to 5.2 V-Hollow Lo with forged or swap out for cast.

I'm on forged + 14.25 wb, but thats somewhat short for me since I used to ride 14.5 with Indys with forged plates before going to Ventures. I tried a 14 on my forged ventures briefly, but it was just too small to handle. If I was shorter or gradually made my way down I could totally see it working though. I imagine I'd prefer forged over cast, but don't know for sure.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on September 14, 2020, 08:08:00 AM
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So are all you tall dudes on Venture Low?

I skated Venture Low and Thunders growing up and was 6 foot 3 at age 14. I have never really gotten used to Stage 11 and the best Indy's have felt is when I had some 139 Forged Ti. I like my Thunder Ti lites a lot, which are the lowest of the Thunders but maybe going to 147 or Venture Low makes more sense.
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i cant recommend venture lows/steep kicks enough especially for taller skaters. board low to the ground feels ideal to me at 6'5. i now realize why indys at 55mm were the worst trucks i ever owned. felt like standing on a balance beam when riding as loose as i prefer with my lanky body. getting high and stable pop is so much easier when the tail is lower. never going cast for anything again, wide and low is now a requirement for any future setup. added WB is a plus for my long ass legs.

this thread is dead (sadly) but has tall pal setups
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109009.0

everyone skates differently and different shit but for someone who does a lot of jumping, id say 52mm height trucks and below have worked the best for me.
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I always rode wide (8.3s) and low (pre Thunder 149 revamp thunder hollows @49mm with bones meds were all I rode, with 53mm wheels, WB was a bitch but it got me some height)...when I watched a vid with Lewis Marnnell (RIP) where he said wide and low, man...I felt vindicated...and dropped my wheels size.

Indy Ti (forged) are the highest I can go (sorry ATGs we had to break up)...the tippy balance beam for 55mm trucks is how I feel as well, it's just wrong...I'm only 5'10" but I feel the same...even better now that I've dropped down to 51/50mm wheels again...maybe it's the 90s skater in me :P I've got an 8.3 with 8.3 ML and 50mm wheels and it's a fucking blast...if Venture would make a 5.6 low, I'd bite but the forged 5.6 is the best we're gonna get I think.
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im so satisfied with my 5.2 low and 8.5 experiment that i would shell out for a 5.6 low/8.75 deck combo. based on the 6.1 release, im assuming it would be a long wait for the forged options but thats really the dream truck. fuck, id even use my own forged plates with the raw hangers during that wait.

with all ML trucks being 47mm tall (7.13 - 8.75 axles), i cant help but think the 5.8 and 6.1 get the low treatment sometime down the road. venture has a lot less selection than thunder and that could level things out a bit. just speculation though....
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I helped a tall friend (6 ft, tall by Asian standards.) setup a board since he wanted to get back on board. I went with Thunder Team Hollow plus 53mm Bones Easy Streets but after reading input from you guys it sounds like forged would have been a better option. I'll see if I can experiment with him going with Thunder Hollow Lights when I get a pair in.
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Nah you should just keep him out of this rabbithole lol. I'm 6 5 and Asian and I've skated Thunders with forged and cast plates and both were fine.

Though I also tried Tensor atgs and at 55mm found them a little bit tippy. The past few years I've skated Indy Tis, Ventures with forged plates, Thunders with forged and hollow plates, as well as Aces, so nothing approaching the 55mm territory. Wheel size has varied a lot though, from 55mm all the way to worn down 47mm wheels. I would generally agree with the sentiment that I prefer a lower setup, but not sure if its related to height or just what I grew up skating.
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Itchy hands, I'll leave the madness to myself.

Anyone have success with Ventures + short WB decks? I'm planning on riding an 8 x 31.6 x 14 next, steep kicks with medium concave. Thinking if I should stick to 5.2 V-Hollow Lo with forged or swap out for cast.

That's the combo where Venture shine 14"-14.25" - *I* wouldn't go any longer but some have with great success...in all honesty, the overall effects, due to trucks pulling in and out a WB, is exacerbated on these forums ;)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Firebert on September 14, 2020, 08:28:15 AM
...the overall effects ... is exacerbated on these forums ;)
I wouldn't even be here if we weren't splitting hairs at this point
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on September 14, 2020, 09:16:56 AM
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...the overall effects ... is exacerbated on these forums ;)
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I wouldn't even be here if we weren't splitting hairs at this point

You and me both!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 14, 2020, 09:50:05 AM
I like to think of all of you as brother (and sisters), fueling our collective madness together.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ballintoohard on September 14, 2020, 10:21:30 AM
I just got a Worrest Twin Tail, which is 14.4 WB with 5.6 Hi and 52 Loopholes. I will also try my 148 Ti Lites, which are a tad shorter.

But in my return to skating my best setup was actually an 8.25 Krooked Full with 139 Ti Forged Indys and tippy bones on 50s. So maybe this all makes sense. I hated standard Indy on a Polar 8.5 with 54 Conical Fulls
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on September 14, 2020, 01:52:33 PM
can any of the bros confirm for me that 5.8 v-lights are 52mm tall as opposed to regular 5.8s at 53.5?  i keep seeing conflicting info. 
and is it just the forged plate that cuts down on the height?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 14, 2020, 02:53:36 PM
can any of the bros confirm for me that 5.8 v-lights are 52mm tall as opposed to regular 5.8s at 53.5?  i keep seeing conflicting info. 
and is it just the forged plate that cuts down on the height?
dlx forged plates take 1mm off cast. dont have calipers but using the thunder chart for reference
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on September 15, 2020, 03:49:36 AM
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can any of the bros confirm for me that 5.8 v-lights are 52mm tall as opposed to regular 5.8s at 53.5?  i keep seeing conflicting info. 
and is it just the forged plate that cuts down on the height?
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dlx forged plates take 1mm off cast. dont have calipers but using the thunder chart for reference

thanks dude. i was at work and too antsy to wait to get home so i just asked in here haha. once i was back i busted out my scale and digital tape measure and spent almost 2 hours toying with all my trucks. total madness, but it was awesome
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JB77 on September 15, 2020, 06:47:43 AM
Posted some 5.0 HI’s in the classifieds section if anyone is interested.  $35 shipped...

 https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112995.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112995.0)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on September 15, 2020, 08:27:01 AM
Posted some 5.0 HI’s in the classifieds section if anyone is interested.  $35 shipped...

 https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112995.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112995.0)
Wish I woulda seen this 24 hours earlier; set up a 7.75 board to mess around on and really wanted some 5.0 hi’s for it but the only small trucks the shop had were Indy 129s so I just settled for those. First set of Indys I’ve been on in a while too; they’re a lot more squirrelly feeling right off the bat but Id be lying if I said I didn’t miss that surfy turn that they have.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JB77 on September 15, 2020, 09:49:45 AM
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Posted some 5.0 HI’s in the classifieds section if anyone is interested.  $35 shipped...

 https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112995.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112995.0)
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Wish I woulda seen this 24 hours earlier; set up a 7.75 board to mess around on and really wanted some 5.0 hi’s for it but the only small trucks the shop had were Indy 129s so I just settled for those. First set of Indys I’ve been on in a while too; they’re a lot more squirrelly feeling right off the bat but Id be lying if I said I didn’t miss that surfy turn that they have.

Dang, bad timing.  I would love to have sent them to someone from this forum.  Those Indy’s will serve you well, though.  Great trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: os89 on September 15, 2020, 10:25:15 AM
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Posted some 5.0 HI’s in the classifieds section if anyone is interested.  $35 shipped...

 https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112995.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112995.0)
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Wish I woulda seen this 24 hours earlier; set up a 7.75 board to mess around on and really wanted some 5.0 hi’s for it but the only small trucks the shop had were Indy 129s so I just settled for those. First set of Indys I’ve been on in a while too; they’re a lot more squirrelly feeling right off the bat but Id be lying if I said I didn’t miss that surfy turn that they have.
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Dang, bad timing.  I would love to have sent them to someone from this forum.  Those Indy’s will serve you well, though.  Great trucks.

God damn. Fuck I would have used them too!

I ordered 6.1s for my FUBK set up. Ended up getting 5.2s sent instead...

6.1 sold out everywhere else, so I went and bought 159 indys. I always like them, no problem but damn.

So then I just said fuck it, kept the 5.2s and threw them on my 7.75 haha, where usually I would use 129s/5.0
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JB77 on September 15, 2020, 11:22:36 AM
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Posted some 5.0 HI’s in the classifieds section if anyone is interested.  $35 shipped...

 https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112995.0 (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112995.0)
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Wish I woulda seen this 24 hours earlier; set up a 7.75 board to mess around on and really wanted some 5.0 hi’s for it but the only small trucks the shop had were Indy 129s so I just settled for those. First set of Indys I’ve been on in a while too; they’re a lot more squirrelly feeling right off the bat but Id be lying if I said I didn’t miss that surfy turn that they have.
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Dang, bad timing.  I would love to have sent them to someone from this forum.  Those Indy’s will serve you well, though.  Great trucks.
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God damn. Fuck I would have used them too!

I ordered 6.1s for my FUBK set up. Ended up getting 5.2s sent instead...

6.1 sold out everywhere else, so I went and bought 159 indys. I always like them, no problem but damn.

So then I just said fuck it, kept the 5.2s and threw them on my 7.75 haha, where usually I would use 129s/5.0

Double dang, lol!!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 15, 2020, 02:57:25 PM
tried forged ventures on a polar with a 14.5 WB and fuck was it my worst day of skating in recent memory. felt like riding a tank and all my tricks were under rotating. pop feel was atrocious. tried to not bitch about the change so much but it was a unbearably bad experience
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 15, 2020, 06:19:21 PM
tried forged ventures on a polar with a 14.5 WB and fuck was it my worst day of skating in recent memory. felt like riding a tank and all my tricks were under rotating. pop feel was atrocious. tried to not bitch about the change so much but it was a unbearably bad experience

Forged on anything past 14.25 is no bueno, feels like you're ollie-ing in molasses. Maybe if you're a taller dude that could work but in my experience going short board (31.6) or long WB (>14.38) is a bad time with forged.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on September 15, 2020, 06:33:45 PM
I've skated forged on up to 14.5, its pushing it a little bit, but its comfortable and stable and I got really good yield on a lot of my tricks even though it took more effort. If I was more atv, skated more gaps and transition and stuff I'd probably prefer it. But since I'm mainly low impact flatground, ledges etc 14.25 is better overall.

14.38 is ok too, but I do notice certain ledge tricks getting a little bit harder even though its more comfortable of a ride.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TurdyBird on September 15, 2020, 11:51:59 PM
Was hoping I could find somewhere decent that had Thunder High 148s (trying to retire my Indys). Nowhere I trusted had em. Took my plunge on some 5.6's. Might but a new deck too, cause it already feels too long, but I think a shorter length, and wheel base will make this a good decision. I'm excited. The heat, smoke and my own alcoholism has kept me from skating but I'm looking forward to being a kid again. Open to getting gassed up for joining the Venture gang, or dismissed for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BMCsteve on September 16, 2020, 07:14:56 AM
FYI - 6.1 V-Lights are hitting shops now.  Pharmacy LB just got some in
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: camel filters on September 16, 2020, 09:03:12 AM
I know there was another gilby venture thread but it looks like he wasn't just borrowing a set up. I have a feeling venture is gonna get even more business now.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50349305791_5701b0ae40_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jHcmta)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2jHcmta) by  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/162334525@N08/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chappers on September 16, 2020, 09:09:23 AM
I know there was another gilby venture thread but it looks like he wasn't just borrowing a set up. I have a feeling venture is gonna get even more business now.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50349305791_5701b0ae40_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jHcmta)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/2jHcmta) by  (https://www.flickr.com/photos/162334525@N08/), on Flickr

hater to rider. i back the groeth.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JB77 on September 16, 2020, 10:21:41 AM
Just re-listed my Venture 5.0 HI’s at a lower price.  $30 shipped in the USA...

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/293738088072 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/293738088072)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on September 16, 2020, 12:45:02 PM
FYI - 6.1 V-Lights are hitting shops now.  Pharmacy LB just got some in

this is awesome.

i also saw that post of gilbert on Quasi''s story and was surprised.  i remember him being a shit talker about Ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on September 16, 2020, 12:51:49 PM
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FYI - 6.1 V-Lights are hitting shops now.  Pharmacy LB just got some in
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this is awesome.

i also saw that post of gilbert on Quasi''s story and was surprised.  i remember him being a shit talker about Ventures

pretty sure that was all in jest
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on September 16, 2020, 01:39:32 PM
which part?  him shit talking Ventures, or the clip of him riding them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on September 16, 2020, 03:58:06 PM
which part?  him shit talking Ventures, or the clip of him riding them
the shit talking, most of his crew skates venture trucks & he is as well periodically
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on September 16, 2020, 04:44:43 PM
haha ok word, thanks for clarifying. i was always unclear on that. seemed like there was a real indy vs venture beef on instagram a few months ago.

quasi posted more stories of gilbert riding ventures too, so def curious if this means anything
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on September 16, 2020, 04:54:33 PM
6.1 v-lights are intriguing for sure
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on September 16, 2020, 05:51:03 PM
haha ok word, thanks for clarifying. i was always unclear on that. seemed like there was a real indy vs venture beef on instagram a few months ago.

quasi posted more stories of gilbert riding ventures too, so def curious if this means anything
in the bust crew article they joked he’s going to have to switch to venture when he runs out of those old ass indys
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Damoforce on September 17, 2020, 04:07:06 AM
If I were to get some 5.6 V-lights, what difference would I experience from Thunder 148s Hollow Lights? 14-14.25 WB decks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on September 17, 2020, 05:35:53 AM
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haha ok word, thanks for clarifying. i was always unclear on that. seemed like there was a real indy vs venture beef on instagram a few months ago.

quasi posted more stories of gilbert riding ventures too, so def curious if this means anything
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in the bust crew article they joked he’s going to have to switch to venture when he runs out of those old ass indys
Looks like he either can't find old ass independent or he's a full convert like every other pro. I back it regardless.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: baustin on September 17, 2020, 06:29:42 AM
If I were to get some 5.6 V-lights, what difference would I experience from Thunder 148s Hollow Lights? 14-14.25 WB decks.

Slightly longer WB. More pop because they’re higher and longer WB. A little heavier and clunkier than the Thunders and a slower, more carvey turn compared to the quick, snappy Thunder turn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cricketclub on September 17, 2020, 06:38:26 AM
Just re-listed my Venture 5.0 HI’s at a lower price.  $30 shipped in the USA...

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/293738088072 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/293738088072)

Ordered these from JB77, thanks JB77!

Now I gotta get a 7.75 deck.

I’m rocking 5.2 lows rn and it was fun for a while but I clearly need higher tricks. I could go skinnier though. Excited to see how backside 180’s feel on these 5.0 highs. That is one trick that performed much better on my previous trucks, Indy 139 highs.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: left knee cap on September 17, 2020, 06:45:32 AM
i've skated indy 139 polished for a long time but lately been skating 8.38 so i'm thinking about making the jump and trying out venture's 5.6. just can't decide between getting a hollow or the regular? can't seem to find any hollow's atm so might just settle for regular 5.6 high's. are they any heavier than indys or lighter?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on September 17, 2020, 06:50:55 AM
i've skated indy 139 polished for a long time but lately been skating 8.38 so i'm thinking about making the jump and trying out venture's 5.6. just can't decide between getting a hollow or the regular? can't seem to find any hollow's atm so might just settle for regular 5.6 high's. are they any heavier than indys or lighter?
They are lighter than standard independents
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 17, 2020, 08:29:49 AM
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Just re-listed my Venture 5.0 HI’s at a lower price.  $30 shipped in the USA...

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/293738088072 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/293738088072)
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Ordered these from JB77, thanks JB77!

Now I gotta get a 7.75 deck.

I’m rocking 5.2 lows rn and it was fun for a while but I clearly need higher tricks. I could go skinnier though. Excited to see how backside 180’s feel on these 5.0 highs. That is one trick that performed much better on my previous trucks, Indy 139 highs.

I am into 5.0 hi’s. I got some with a green Eagle and 53’s and it felt like home, didn’t have to try to land stuff. Looked hideous and I stopped riding it. Got to get back to it.
5.2 lows are great, but I need to ride an 8+, if I go back to bigger boards....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 17, 2020, 08:43:06 AM
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i've skated indy 139 polished for a long time but lately been skating 8.38 so i'm thinking about making the jump and trying out venture's 5.6. just can't decide between getting a hollow or the regular? can't seem to find any hollow's atm so might just settle for regular 5.6 high's. are they any heavier than indys or lighter?
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They are lighter than standard independents

They do pop heavier because they extend the WB out 0.25" more than Indys.

Standard Indys add 3" to WB, standard Ventures add 3.25" to WB.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 17, 2020, 06:29:54 PM
I stopped into Nowhere Fast shop in Beverly Ma today. I was looking for ceramic super reds bearings.

They got mad 5.2s I looked quickly but venture was the entire case almost.

Maybe Indy is over?

Venture and loop holes new reigning champ
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on September 17, 2020, 09:46:07 PM
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i've skated indy 139 polished for a long time but lately been skating 8.38 so i'm thinking about making the jump and trying out venture's 5.6. just can't decide between getting a hollow or the regular? can't seem to find any hollow's atm so might just settle for regular 5.6 high's. are they any heavier than indys or lighter?
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They are lighter than standard independents
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They do pop heavier because they extend the WB out 0.25" more than Indys.

Standard Indys add 3" to WB, standard Ventures add 3.25" to WB.
This is true. As long as you stick with a wheelbase that's not too long you will get used to it in a session.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 18, 2020, 05:33:06 PM
rotations are coming around a little slow on 360 flips with forged plates and 14.25 wb (17.75 wb axle to axle). would the shorter wb with cast plates help this out? have a pair i can swap with a friend but wouldnt want to try it if its all in my head
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 19, 2020, 05:37:41 AM
rotations are coming around a little slow on 360 flips with forged plates and 14.25 wb (17.75 wb axle to axle). would the shorter wb with cast plates help this out? have a pair i can swap with a friend but wouldnt want to try it if its all in my head

Yes. I'm running hybrid on the dlx. It's got almost a 14.5. I also have changed my tre a little again.

I hang my toes off little higher on the tail when I scoop

The front foot is little more below ctr board than usual.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 19, 2020, 07:20:46 AM
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rotations are coming around a little slow on 360 flips with forged plates and 14.25 wb (17.75 wb axle to axle). would the shorter wb with cast plates help this out? have a pair i can swap with a friend but wouldnt want to try it if its all in my head
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Yes. I'm running hybrid on the dlx. It's got almost a 14.5. I also have changed my tre a little again.

I hang my toes off little higher on the tail when I scoop

The front foot is little more below ctr board than usual.

Higher pop when the back foot goes up the tail
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 19, 2020, 08:22:17 AM
This has been bugging me for the whole day: is it the hanger or the baseplate that make the Venture Hi or Lo? And does anyone know the height difference a Hi versus Lo of a similar model?

Lowest to highest, measurements are from Tactics which look iffy:
- Forged Lo - 48.3mm
- Forged Hi - 53.5mm
- Cast Lo - 53.5mm
- Cast Hi - 53.5mm

I tried riding 5.6 V-Hollow (only Hi model, no Lo model) with a cast baseplate on a deck with steep kicks and the pop was unforgiving especially coming off 5.2 V-Hollow Lo with a forged baseplate. I thought about swapping the cast baseplate with the forged one to lower the height, but it would add 0.15" to the WB resulting in a heavier pop (albiet snappier).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on September 19, 2020, 09:16:22 AM
This has been bugging me for the whole day: is it the hanger or the baseplate that make the Venture Hi or Lo? And does anyone know the height difference a Hi versus Lo of a similar model?

Lowest to highest, measurements are from Tactics which look iffy:
- Forged Lo - 48.3mm
- Forged Hi - 53.5mm
- Cast Lo - 53.5mm
- Cast Hi - 53.5mm

I tried riding 5.6 V-Hollow (only Hi model, no Lo model) with a cast baseplate on a deck with steep kicks and the pop was unforgiving especially coming off 5.2 V-Hollow Lo with a forged baseplate. I thought about swapping the cast baseplate with the forged one to lower the height, but it would add 0.15" to the WB resulting in a heavier pop (albiet snappier).
the hanger makes it a low or hi. The forged hi’s are 52mm not 53.5. Switch to the forged on your hollows you might love it or you might not
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 19, 2020, 09:18:00 AM
This has been bugging me for the whole day: is it the hanger or the baseplate that make the Venture Hi or Lo? And does anyone know the height difference a Hi versus Lo of a similar model?

Lowest to highest, measurements are from Tactics which look iffy:
- Forged Lo - 48.3mm
- Forged Hi - 53.5mm
- Cast Lo - 53.5mm
- Cast Hi - 53.5mm

I tried riding 5.6 V-Hollow (only Hi model, no Lo model) with a cast baseplate on a deck with steep kicks and the pop was unforgiving especially coming off 5.2 V-Hollow Lo with a forged baseplate. I thought about swapping the cast baseplate with the forged one to lower the height, but it would add 0.15" to the WB resulting in a heavier pop (albiet snappier).

Base plates are interchangeable, with Ventures. The height difference comes from the hanger. I’ve never measured, but generally forged is 1.5 mm lower than cast. I take the published cast measurements and subtract 1.5 mm, for forged.

Respectfully....you seem to be changing a lot of variables, pretty consistently. That can be fun. I’ve definitely gone through periods were I change it up, session to session. We are all just playing with toy(s). If your goal is to get ‘better’ at skating, this constant changing of multiple parts isn’t going to help, but it will show you what tricks are totally yours. What I mean by that is I finally realized I was doing a lesser (much less) version of ‘the Chico’: getting on whatever setup I’d slapped together and attempting my five favorite flip tricks. Probably not even five. The ones that work, turns out I can do, eventually, no matter what the board setup is.

Way too long don’t read.
For me, matching the correct truck, and then forged/cast to the correct deck/‘kick’ steepness, and wheelbase, became too tiresome, and wasn’t yielding fun. Something will work, close enough, and then I just use that. I’m not good at skating tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 19, 2020, 09:29:11 AM
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This has been bugging me for the whole day: is it the hanger or the baseplate that make the Venture Hi or Lo? And does anyone know the height difference a Hi versus Lo of a similar model?

Lowest to highest, measurements are from Tactics which look iffy:
- Forged Lo - 48.3mm
- Forged Hi - 53.5mm
- Cast Lo - 53.5mm
- Cast Hi - 53.5mm

I tried riding 5.6 V-Hollow (only Hi model, no Lo model) with a cast baseplate on a deck with steep kicks and the pop was unforgiving especially coming off 5.2 V-Hollow Lo with a forged baseplate. I thought about swapping the cast baseplate with the forged one to lower the height, but it would add 0.15" to the WB resulting in a heavier pop (albiet snappier).
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Base plates are interchangeable, with Ventures. The height difference comes from the hanger. I’ve never measured, but generally forged is 1.5 mm lower than cast. I take the published cast measurements and subtract 1.5 mm, for forged.

Respectfully....you seem to be changing a lot of variables, pretty consistently. That can be fun. I’ve definitely gone through periods were I change it up, session to session. We are all just playing with toy(s). If your goal is to get ‘better’ at skating, this constant changing of multiple parts isn’t going to help, but it will show you what tricks are totally yours. What I mean by that is I finally realized I was doing a lesser (much less) version of ‘the Chico’: getting on whatever setup I’d slapped together and attempting my five favorite flip tricks. Probably not even five. The ones that work, turns out I can do, eventually, no matter what the board setup is.

Way too long don’t read.
For me, matching the correct truck, and then forged/cast to the correct deck/‘kick’ steepness, and wheelbase, became too tiresome, and wasn’t yielding fun. Something will work, close enough, and then I just use that. I’m not good at skating tho.

That's a good way to think about truck setups. I rode Ventures for my last 4 setups, 5.2 Lo with V-Hollow worked best for me. So in terms of trucks I've been been on the Venture train for a good long while. Only rode thunders for the first time in months on my Santa Cruz. There was a lot to like - lighter pop feel, metal grinds softer, but the pinch did not feel the same for me, hence I was trying to find a combination with Ventures that would give me a closer experience to Thunders.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 19, 2020, 02:03:20 PM
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rotations are coming around a little slow on 360 flips with forged plates and 14.25 wb (17.75 wb axle to axle). would the shorter wb with cast plates help this out? have a pair i can swap with a friend but wouldnt want to try it if its all in my head
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Yes. I'm running hybrid on the dlx. It's got almost a 14.5. I also have changed my tre a little again.

I hang my toes off little higher on the tail when I scoop

The front foot is little more below ctr board than usual.
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Higher pop when the back foot goes up the tail

Yep. I can get it around faster too
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on September 19, 2020, 03:46:53 PM
rotations are coming around a little slow on 360 flips with forged plates and 14.25 wb (17.75 wb axle to axle). would the shorter wb with cast plates help this out? have a pair i can swap with a friend but wouldnt want to try it if its all in my head

Might help a little but its definitely more in your head and an issue with technique
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on September 19, 2020, 03:51:11 PM
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This has been bugging me for the whole day: is it the hanger or the baseplate that make the Venture Hi or Lo? And does anyone know the height difference a Hi versus Lo of a similar model?

Lowest to highest, measurements are from Tactics which look iffy:
- Forged Lo - 48.3mm
- Forged Hi - 53.5mm
- Cast Lo - 53.5mm
- Cast Hi - 53.5mm

I tried riding 5.6 V-Hollow (only Hi model, no Lo model) with a cast baseplate on a deck with steep kicks and the pop was unforgiving especially coming off 5.2 V-Hollow Lo with a forged baseplate. I thought about swapping the cast baseplate with the forged one to lower the height, but it would add 0.15" to the WB resulting in a heavier pop (albiet snappier).
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Base plates are interchangeable, with Ventures. The height difference comes from the hanger. I’ve never measured, but generally forged is 1.5 mm lower than cast. I take the published cast measurements and subtract 1.5 mm, for forged.

Respectfully....you seem to be changing a lot of variables, pretty consistently. That can be fun. I’ve definitely gone through periods were I change it up, session to session. We are all just playing with toy(s). If your goal is to get ‘better’ at skating, this constant changing of multiple parts isn’t going to help, but it will show you what tricks are totally yours. What I mean by that is I finally realized I was doing a lesser (much less) version of ‘the Chico’: getting on whatever setup I’d slapped together and attempting my five favorite flip tricks. Probably not even five. The ones that work, turns out I can do, eventually, no matter what the board setup is.

Way too long don’t read.
For me, matching the correct truck, and then forged/cast to the correct deck/‘kick’ steepness, and wheelbase, became too tiresome, and wasn’t yielding fun. Something will work, close enough, and then I just use that. I’m not good at skating tho.
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That's a good way to think about truck setups. I rode Ventures for my last 4 setups, 5.2 Lo with V-Hollow worked best for me. So in terms of trucks I've been been on the Venture train for a good long while. Only rode thunders for the first time in months on my Santa Cruz. There was a lot to like - lighter pop feel, metal grinds softer, but the pinch did not feel the same for me, hence I was trying to find a combination with Ventures that would give me a closer experience to Thunders.

 It sounds like forged plates and hollows, but with a shorter wb and mellow kicks might balance things out.

Keep in mind half this stuff is in your head too when you're switching things around every other session. The exact same setup has felt drastically different to me on different days simply because I was feeling or skating different
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 20, 2020, 12:20:43 AM
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This has been bugging me for the whole day: is it the hanger or the baseplate that make the Venture Hi or Lo? And does anyone know the height difference a Hi versus Lo of a similar model?

Lowest to highest, measurements are from Tactics which look iffy:
- Forged Lo - 48.3mm
- Forged Hi - 53.5mm
- Cast Lo - 53.5mm
- Cast Hi - 53.5mm

I tried riding 5.6 V-Hollow (only Hi model, no Lo model) with a cast baseplate on a deck with steep kicks and the pop was unforgiving especially coming off 5.2 V-Hollow Lo with a forged baseplate. I thought about swapping the cast baseplate with the forged one to lower the height, but it would add 0.15" to the WB resulting in a heavier pop (albiet snappier).
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Base plates are interchangeable, with Ventures. The height difference comes from the hanger. I’ve never measured, but generally forged is 1.5 mm lower than cast. I take the published cast measurements and subtract 1.5 mm, for forged.

Respectfully....you seem to be changing a lot of variables, pretty consistently. That can be fun. I’ve definitely gone through periods were I change it up, session to session. We are all just playing with toy(s). If your goal is to get ‘better’ at skating, this constant changing of multiple parts isn’t going to help, but it will show you what tricks are totally yours. What I mean by that is I finally realized I was doing a lesser (much less) version of ‘the Chico’: getting on whatever setup I’d slapped together and attempting my five favorite flip tricks. Probably not even five. The ones that work, turns out I can do, eventually, no matter what the board setup is.

Way too long don’t read.
For me, matching the correct truck, and then forged/cast to the correct deck/‘kick’ steepness, and wheelbase, became too tiresome, and wasn’t yielding fun. Something will work, close enough, and then I just use that. I’m not good at skating tho.
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That's a good way to think about truck setups. I rode Ventures for my last 4 setups, 5.2 Lo with V-Hollow worked best for me. So in terms of trucks I've been been on the Venture train for a good long while. Only rode thunders for the first time in months on my Santa Cruz. There was a lot to like - lighter pop feel, metal grinds softer, but the pinch did not feel the same for me, hence I was trying to find a combination with Ventures that would give me a closer experience to Thunders.
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 It sounds like forged plates and hollows, but with a shorter wb and mellow kicks might balance things out.

Keep in mind half this stuff is in your head too when you're switching things around every other session. The exact same setup has felt drastically different to me on different days simply because I was feeling or skating different

Decided not to be a bitch and just ride whatever I have on at the moment. I will swap out to Ventures when the deck is coming to it's end of life, I was able to extend the life of my previous deck by 2-3 weeks with lower trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on September 21, 2020, 06:00:12 AM
I'm riding Thunders now.. but I have a set of brand new 5.25 Lo's if anyone is having a problem finding any. Still have the stickers on and everything.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Slayer666 on September 21, 2020, 06:40:25 AM
Bro what is up with the way these things turn you gotta be joking me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on September 21, 2020, 06:59:30 AM
Bro what is up with the way these things turn you gotta be joking me

Go on.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Slayer666 on September 21, 2020, 07:12:55 AM
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Bro what is up with the way these things turn you gotta be joking me
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Go on.
they still turn don’t get me wrong but like wtf man
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on September 21, 2020, 07:20:28 AM
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Bro what is up with the way these things turn you gotta be joking me
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Go on.
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they still turn don’t get me wrong but like wtf man
Care to elaborate? I’m curious. I’m interested in trying some ventures when I reach the axle on my indys/if I can find 5.8s, so I’d like to hear your take.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 21, 2020, 07:25:47 AM
A lot of lean before the turn unlike Independent or Thunder which have a surf-y turn. The stock bushing also take a while to wear in but after that they turn well, but never as good as Independent.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on September 21, 2020, 07:30:13 AM
Yeah, that’s what I’ve heard, as well, but I was wondering if this dude had any fresh takes. I think I might like having to lean harder to turn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on September 21, 2020, 01:37:24 PM
Yeah, that’s what I’ve heard, as well, but I was wondering if this dude had any fresh takes. I think I might like having to lean harder to turn.

It is all a matter of tastes I suppose. I really like the delayed turn of ventures vs. the early engagement/surfy feel of indys.  I notice the stability and snap of ventures in the streets and haven't noticed a huge downside carving transition.   
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shpongle on September 21, 2020, 01:39:54 PM
do you think venture 5.8 raw hi's would be good for transition skating? i never tried ventures in my life. only ace and indy. kind of want to try ventures but idk how good the turn and wheel bite would be.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on September 21, 2020, 01:48:14 PM
put some bones bushings in my 5.2 hollow light lows and got this crazy weird noise when slightly turning on them . ended up switching back to the stock bushings but using the washer that came with the bones .

anyone else have that problem ever?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 21, 2020, 02:39:39 PM
was it more of a eeearrrkk or a sqquaank
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 21, 2020, 07:46:21 PM
put some bones bushings in my 5.2 hollow light lows and got this crazy weird noise when slightly turning on them . ended up switching back to the stock bushings but using the washer that came with the bones .

anyone else have that problem ever?

I didn't notice the noise as much but it was definite more of an eeeearrrrrrrkkkkk than a sqqqqqqquakkkkkkk. Turning was great but a little too loosy-goosy for me, stuck with stock bushing.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on September 21, 2020, 08:00:32 PM
put some bones bushings in my 5.2 hollow light lows and got this crazy weird noise when slightly turning on them . ended up switching back to the stock bushings but using the washer that came with the bones .

anyone else have that problem ever?

tried to lubricate them? with wax or oil. could work to get rid of groovy noise.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 21, 2020, 08:10:05 PM
The flat washer makes a pretty significant change to the turn
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Slayer666 on September 22, 2020, 03:50:10 AM
Just feels silly compared to an Indy or thunder. Kind of turn that made me lol It’s whatever you prefer I could probably get used to A lot of lean and good turn compared to something like Krux which I remember had a ton of lean and no turn
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 22, 2020, 04:21:29 PM
switched out my forged baseplates on my 5.2 hollow lows for cast and like the little bit of added weight. will do the 3 flip test later today but wouldnt be surprised if shrinking the wb by .25 of an inch is just a placebo thing.

.25 in = 6.35mm....take out your rulers and axle to axle wb seems like a cruel joke. what is 6mm gonna do to pop feel? stability? flip tricks? my mind is telling me "absolutely nothing." there certainly a difference in a .5 reduction, but a .25 reduction seems like it would be indiscernible at the same weight....

i think im going to do my brain a favor and never switch baseplates again. or at least ditch the idea that a2a wb matters too much.

we might have taken the madness too far with that one
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on September 22, 2020, 05:15:55 PM
Just feels silly compared to an Indy or thunder. Kind of turn that made me lol It’s whatever you prefer I could probably get used to A lot of lean and good turn compared to something like Krux which I remember had a ton of lean and no turn

Pretty much!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on September 22, 2020, 05:23:28 PM
switched out my forged baseplates on my 5.2 hollow lows for cast and like the little bit of added weight. will do the 3 flip test later today but wouldnt be surprised if shrinking the wb by .25 of an inch is just a placebo thing.

.25 in = 6.35mm....take out your rulers and axle to axle wb seems like a cruel joke. what is 6mm gonna do to pop feel? stability? flip tricks? my mind is telling me "absolutely nothing." there certainly a difference in a .5 reduction, but a .25 reduction seems like it would be indiscernible at the same weight....

i think im going to do my brain a favor and never switch baseplates again. or at least ditch the idea that a2a wb matters too much.

we might have taken the madness too far with that one

lol that happened a long time ago
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 22, 2020, 10:02:47 PM
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Just feels silly compared to an Indy or thunder. Kind of turn that made me lol It’s whatever you prefer I could probably get used to A lot of lean and good turn compared to something like Krux which I remember had a ton of lean and no turn
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Pretty much!

That's a good description....I remember the first tensor, Rodney engineered to lean but not to turn....so you could shift your weight, or get your balance but not swerve...

Ace gives you a bit of lean, and a lot of turn...
Thunder gives you a bit of turn....then it's just lean....
Indy it's both at the same time....consistent....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 23, 2020, 12:10:43 AM
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switched out my forged baseplates on my 5.2 hollow lows for cast and like the little bit of added weight. will do the 3 flip test later today but wouldnt be surprised if shrinking the wb by .25 of an inch is just a placebo thing.

.25 in = 6.35mm....take out your rulers and axle to axle wb seems like a cruel joke. what is 6mm gonna do to pop feel? stability? flip tricks? my mind is telling me "absolutely nothing." there certainly a difference in a .5 reduction, but a .25 reduction seems like it would be indiscernible at the same weight....

i think im going to do my brain a favor and never switch baseplates again. or at least ditch the idea that a2a wb matters too much.

we might have taken the madness too far with that one
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lol that happened a long time ago

Sure, we'll keep your seat warm when you're back here again with your next bout of truck madness.....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on September 23, 2020, 03:12:26 AM
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switched out my forged baseplates on my 5.2 hollow lows for cast and like the little bit of added weight. will do the 3 flip test later today but wouldnt be surprised if shrinking the wb by .25 of an inch is just a placebo thing.

.25 in = 6.35mm....take out your rulers and axle to axle wb seems like a cruel joke. what is 6mm gonna do to pop feel? stability? flip tricks? my mind is telling me "absolutely nothing." there certainly a difference in a .5 reduction, but a .25 reduction seems like it would be indiscernible at the same weight....

i think im going to do my brain a favor and never switch baseplates again. or at least ditch the idea that a2a wb matters too much.

we might have taken the madness too far with that one
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lol that happened a long time ago
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Sure, we'll keep your seat warm when you're back here again with your next bout of truck madness.....

Hahaha, if things go well that won't be for a long time. Though realistically I'll be stoked if I don't stress about trucks for the rest of the year.

Venture 5.8 v-lights, pretty much stock has been treating me well enough, both on axle, running them til they snap on me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 23, 2020, 06:18:31 AM
Shelving my Thunder 148 Titanium and getting back on the Venture bandwagon. It was a fun ride but the pinch and baseplate can't be beat. Anyone do 8.25 with 5.2 Lo?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 23, 2020, 07:31:55 AM
Shelving my Thunder 148 Titanium and getting back on the Venture bandwagon. It was a fun ride but the pinch and baseplate can't be beat. Anyone do 8.25 with 5.2 Lo?

Yeah I’ve done 8.25 with 5.2 lo, and I liked it. I’m team magic carpet tho. I currently don’t like riding bigger boards, and 8.25 is big for me, but I’d do it again.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Beeker on September 26, 2020, 07:00:06 AM
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Shelving my Thunder 148 Titanium and getting back on the Venture bandwagon. It was a fun ride but the pinch and baseplate can't be beat. Anyone do 8.25 with 5.2 Lo?
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Yeah I’ve done 8.25 with 5.2 lo, and I liked it. I’m team magic carpet tho. I currently don’t like riding bigger boards, and 8.25 is big for me, but I’d do it again.

I just tried this on 8.38, the sizing is fine and the height is perfect, but you have to tighten these things an unreasonable amount in order to not get wheel-bite on just a normal turn (49mm wheels), I was shocked. I don't have the same problem on other low trucks like Thunder or Mini Logo even with bigger wheels. I guess I figured out my truck height threshold.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 26, 2020, 03:18:03 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/MnHL9sQ/16011582720733996266949264719015.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MnHL9sQ)

Traded some old pretty nice stage 11 149s with bones bushings for these brand new 5.2s

One is low but whatever. I'll just cop single trucks later or trade up some more.

I'm stacked for aluminum. My wheel trade was greater so it balances.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Nth syd bear on September 26, 2020, 07:25:30 PM
Can I get a little advice I got some venture 5.0's low from 2005ish

They currently set up with thunder rebuild kit  so medium Thundar bushings i believe

I got a brand new set of bones med bushings here and Indy stock, ace and doh doh's

What bushings you guys liking with ventures????

Sorry but Reading through truck threads is just going to hurt my brain

I dont have any venture bushings other wise i would just run em stock like I do with all trucks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 26, 2020, 07:29:39 PM
I'd go Indy first with a bones washer
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on September 26, 2020, 08:35:29 PM
Can I get a little advice I got some venture 5.0's low from 2005ish

They currently set up with thunder rebuild kit  so medium Thundar bushings i believe

I got a brand new set of bones med bushings here and Indy stock, ace and doh doh's

What bushings you guys liking with ventures????

Sorry but Reading through truck threads is just going to hurt my brain

I dont have any venture bushings other wise i would just run em stock like I do with all trucks
I like bones mediums with my ventures. Makes the turn and pinch better. Also rebound better.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on September 27, 2020, 10:54:16 AM
I like Bones (soft bottom med top) but prefer the ACE bushings in them as it gets them nice and swervey and still retains the trademark stability (bones gets them a bit tippy for my taste).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Nth syd bear on September 27, 2020, 04:20:20 PM
Thanks..  I put some medium bones in there and feeling a lot better so far. 

Bushing combos that's anxiety inducing ..
I really don't like to tamper with my shit very much.  but these trucks needed new bushings

Cheers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: No comply on September 27, 2020, 06:12:37 PM
Has there been any information on an inverted kingpin Venture?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yatallfreak on September 27, 2020, 07:27:09 PM
Has there been any information on an inverted kingpin Venture?
They’ve been working on that for at least a few months now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cricketclub on September 29, 2020, 12:32:06 PM
I just switched from 5.2 lows to 5.0 highs and absolutely love it. I can turn again. I have my trucks so much looser and that has dramatically improved everything. My curiosity for low trucks didn’t last long.

Also, going narrower has been awesome.

I am still getting used to it and the smaller board but it’s nice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on September 29, 2020, 08:18:15 PM
Is anyone running ventures on an 14.5 wheelbase? I typically run a 14.25 and am worried the step up will ruin pop and make flip tricks harder. Any insight is appreciated. Also for reference, I am 6’1”.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on September 29, 2020, 09:14:59 PM
Is anyone running ventures on an 14.5 wheelbase? I typically run a 14.25 and am worried the step up will ruin pop and make flip tricks harder. Any insight is appreciated. Also for reference, I am 6’1”.
I'm running some on a 14.38 and it's been good. It's nice and snappy and I got the timing down perfect for all my tricks. I've rode them on 14.5 before with pretty much the same success. I'm 5'11" btw.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on September 29, 2020, 09:18:50 PM
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Is anyone running ventures on an 14.5 wheelbase? I typically run a 14.25 and am worried the step up will ruin pop and make flip tricks harder. Any insight is appreciated. Also for reference, I am 6’1”.
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I'm running some on a 14.38 and it's been good. It's nice and snappy and I got the timing down perfect for all my tricks. I've rode them on 14.5 before with pretty much the same success. I'm 5'11" btw.

Thanks for the response. 14.38, sounds like a deluxe deck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on September 30, 2020, 09:12:25 AM
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Is anyone running ventures on an 14.5 wheelbase? I typically run a 14.25 and am worried the step up will ruin pop and make flip tricks harder. Any insight is appreciated. Also for reference, I am 6’1”.
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I'm running some on a 14.38 and it's been good. It's nice and snappy and I got the timing down perfect for all my tricks. I've rode them on 14.5 before with pretty much the same success. I'm 5'11" btw.
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Thanks for the response. 14.38, sounds like a deluxe deck.
Yeah it's an anti hero. It's one of the $40 pigeon budgie boards. Has mellow kicks with a decent amount of fingers of flat before the kicks which make the ventures feel even better.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 02, 2020, 04:22:01 AM
anyone know where i can find venture 5.6/5.8s in hollow or titanium? been on the hunt for months with no luck
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: os89 on October 02, 2020, 10:59:11 AM
Just got some 5.0 lo v-hollows  and more fat bundts. I'm stoked.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on October 02, 2020, 12:30:18 PM
Just got some 5.0 lo v-hollows  and more fat bundts. I'm stoked.

Right on. Getting fat bundts myself next week. Can't wait to try them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on October 02, 2020, 03:45:00 PM
i made a truck survey on the spot today, venture and indy were on top with 4 pairs each, runners up ace and thunder with two pairs. one pair of krux. this is crazy, two or three years ago you would have had 6 indy/thunder and the odd ace or venture truck. usually we'd have even more ace riders on the spot and probably a few other venture riders. indy/thunder dominance is definetly broken over here.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on October 04, 2020, 04:35:08 PM
I saw people referencing how their trucks pull to the left or the right depending on their stance. Does team Venture have this problem as well, or does the “need more lean to initiate a turn” thing extend to trucks pulling? I always assumed the pull was due to bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stanley Spadowski on October 04, 2020, 06:20:15 PM
Anyone having trouble with axel slip? I’ve got a pair of 5.25 hollow light lows, and love them. But the axel slip is starting to drive me nuts. It started out as once and awhile I’d get it, and now it seems like after any time I try a trick.
Just wondering if anyone else is having issues with this?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on October 04, 2020, 06:38:25 PM
I saw people referencing how their trucks pull to the left or the right depending on their stance. Does team Venture have this problem as well, or does the “need more lean to initiate a turn” thing extend to trucks pulling? I always assumed the pull was due to bushings.
i'd say that's generally correct, it's usually because a bushing is smushed or broken or slitted on one side and has lost capability to rebound correctly. a broken pivot can make your hangar sit a bit off center and have a similar effect, even when everything seems fine when you ride on it. bushings will also not rebound correctly when not enough or too much pressure is put on them, i.e. daewons front truck probably don't rebound, as won't trucks that have been tightened to no end.

when you're skating in intense heat soft bushings can loosen up to a point where they just get stuck in the position you left them and will rebound back more slowly. when it's too cold they might not rebound correctly because when you force them to squish on one side, they are still too hard from the cold to bounce back right away by themself.

so there can be a few reasons for this. generally trucks shouldn't noticeably veer to one side when you stand on the board unless geometry is off(coming back to the pivot cup as a possible culprit) or chunks of bushing are missing, or the kingpin is broken internally(in the hanger hole, not up the kingpin at the height of the bushings for example) and has yet to fall out. i was assuming you were talking about when you push the board in front of you to step on it and it has a slight tilt to one side.

i haven't noticed any pronounced tilt with my ventures yet. usually when that happens intensely i look to change the bushings and generally it's always a broken bushing or a pivot cup that's the culprit. don't think this is a brand specific problem. how you ride probably affects this more, because some people are more heavy footed and break more bushings than others. some bushings might be more robust than others, i stopped rocking bones bushings because i'd break them fairly quick. i'm just running stock bushings nowadays, until they break.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 04, 2020, 08:45:13 PM
Axle slips can happen. It will likely stop.
Ive only had it happen once to a set of raws. I've had 3 sets of raws and one set of hollows. It definitely should not happen to hollow axle trucks. I would definitely hit up deluxe.


Second

The truck sticking to one side or he other will work it's self out in like 5 or 6 sessions.
My hollows took a little longer. They just broke in the other day after like a few months of every other day skating

If you're trucks they are really really old. Then you may need pivot cups.


Everyone should get deluxe bait and tackle. It's definitely worth it.

Indy genuine aftermarket with a flat washer is 100x better than bones. It's pretty much the same as the orange between green and clear
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: blueskynoise on October 04, 2020, 08:53:05 PM
anyone know where i can find venture 5.6/5.8s in hollow or titanium? been on the hunt for months with no luck

I scored some 5.6 v-hollows from Val Surf in June. They’re all i’ve skated since. So much fun on an FA 8.18
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on October 05, 2020, 02:01:36 PM
Thank you for the thorough responses.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on October 10, 2020, 07:23:15 AM
Is the only difference between standards and v-lights the hollow kingpin? So if I want v-lights but can only find standards, I could just throw hollow kingpins in there and (more or less) have what I want? And am I correct to assume hollow kingpins from forged indy’s (also 53.5 mm tall) will work?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 10, 2020, 08:11:16 AM
Is the only difference between standards and v-lights the hollow kingpin? So if I want v-lights but can only find standards, I could just throw hollow kingpins in there and (more or less) have what I want? And am I correct to assume hollow kingpins from forged indy’s (also 53.5 mm tall) will work?

Hollow kingpin + forged baseplate, which drops the height down by around 1.5mm. I've only messed around with kingpins 15 years ago in my youth and juice was not worth the squeeze. Knocking that thing out was a bitch.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on October 10, 2020, 10:08:00 AM
Damn, I could have sworn the venture site suggested lights had a cast baseplate. Whatever, I’m gonna try out the standards. I’ve been skating forged indy’s for a long time, but I’m sick of all the wobble and wheel bite. Plus, I’d rather buy something made closer to home.

Edit: on further inspection, you are correct, v-lights do have forged plates, I definitely misread initially.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Damoforce on October 11, 2020, 07:15:21 PM
Has anyone ridden the Venture Truck HI Titanium 5.6's?

How have they gone compared to a Thunder?

Will they extend the WB out further that a thunder hollow forged as well?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 11, 2020, 07:47:23 PM
Has anyone ridden the Venture Truck HI Titanium 5.6's?

How have they gone compared to a Thunder?

Will they extend the WB out further that a thunder hollow forged as well?

Rode the 5.8 Titanium on 8.25 and it was too beastly for me, even with the reduced weight. That's just me pairing trucks incorrectly. Would like to do the 5.6 Titanium if they ever come back in stock.

Answer about WB here - https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.msg3186379#msg3186379
Thunder Hollow Lights - +3.25"
Venture Titanium - +3.4"

Both are good trucks, swap between the 2 depending on deck WB and kick steepness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Damoforce on October 11, 2020, 08:25:39 PM
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Has anyone ridden the Venture Truck HI Titanium 5.6's?

How have they gone compared to a Thunder?

Will they extend the WB out further that a thunder hollow forged as well?
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Rode the 5.8 Titanium on 8.25 and it was too beastly for me, even with the reduced weight. That's just me pairing trucks incorrectly. Would like to do the 5.6 Titanium if they ever come back in stock.

Answer about WB here - https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.msg3186379#msg3186379
Thunder Hollow Lights - +3.25"
Venture Titanium - +3.4"

Both are good trucks, swap between the 2 depending on deck WB and kick steepness.

Thanks for the info and feedback. I have the Thunders and Indys in Hollow lights. Thinking whether I add another option to my set lol. I usually get a 14.25 WB deck. But always trying new things.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 11, 2020, 08:37:56 PM
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Has anyone ridden the Venture Truck HI Titanium 5.6's?

How have they gone compared to a Thunder?

Will they extend the WB out further that a thunder hollow forged as well?
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Rode the 5.8 Titanium on 8.25 and it was too beastly for me, even with the reduced weight. That's just me pairing trucks incorrectly. Would like to do the 5.6 Titanium if they ever come back in stock.

Answer about WB here - https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.msg3186379#msg3186379
Thunder Hollow Lights - +3.25"
Venture Titanium - +3.4"

Both are good trucks, swap between the 2 depending on deck WB and kick steepness.
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Thanks for the info and feedback. I have the Thunders and Indys in Hollow lights. Thinking whether I add another option to my set lol. I usually get a 14.25 WB deck. But always trying new things.

Indys - not my jam
Thunders - For decks with WB longer than 14.25, are short (31.6) or have really steep kicks
Ventures - For decks with short WB (14), are long (31.8 and up) or if I want to try giving my worn out deck a 2nd lease of life
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 12, 2020, 05:59:08 AM
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Has anyone ridden the Venture Truck HI Titanium 5.6's?

How have they gone compared to a Thunder?

Will they extend the WB out further that a thunder hollow forged as well?
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Rode the 5.8 Titanium on 8.25 and it was too beastly for me, even with the reduced weight. That's just me pairing trucks incorrectly. Would like to do the 5.6 Titanium if they ever come back in stock.

Answer about WB here - https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.msg3186379#msg3186379
Thunder Hollow Lights - +3.25"
Venture Titanium - +3.4"

Both are good trucks, swap between the 2 depending on deck WB and kick steepness.
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Thanks for the info and feedback. I have the Thunders and Indys in Hollow lights. Thinking whether I add another option to my set lol. I usually get a 14.25 WB deck. But always trying new things.

I'm pretty sure that only the raw are US (ish) trucks aside from kingpin and axles.

If you like the hollow thunders and Indys I would definitely go vhollow.

The 56 raw is heavier than Indy 149 (bigger truck) and way heavier than thunder raw 146 (another bigger truck)

Like 40 gram difference between the thunder and the cast ventures of equal size if I remember.

Venture is a statement to me really.

I give a shit about high speed. I give a shit about what's left of US labor.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 12, 2020, 11:55:51 AM
venture 6.1 vlights in my local
didnt have the cast ones in the shop but are noticably lighter than the pair i owned, great looking truck.

venture forged production coming soon? fingers and toes crossed
(https://i.ibb.co/TBbp3jk/A3093-C2-E-4960-431-F-BBB2-FBB4225-B3-FB9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XZ3NR0b)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on October 12, 2020, 12:41:11 PM
Consider me jealous.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on October 12, 2020, 03:28:31 PM
^^samesies!! damn thats awesome.  what color are they bushings?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 12, 2020, 03:40:44 PM
purple ones came with this set to match the sticker. very well presented and definitely caught my eye out of all the trucks in the case
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 12, 2020, 05:42:51 PM
purple ones came with this set to match the sticker. very well presented and definitely caught my eye out of all the trucks in the case

Taking a page from Thunders book there (they don't do it too often; Team titaniums with that red sticker and matching bushings).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on October 12, 2020, 06:34:30 PM
Cast 383g - what do those vlight weigh? Look good
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ricky bobby on October 15, 2020, 12:35:13 AM
Sorry if this is a question that has already been addressed, but how do the Venture High 5.8s fare on anything larger than 8.5?
I just purchased an egg shaped 9.125 board and am planning on chucking the 5.8s on it. Am I fucking up? let me know cheers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BMCsteve on October 15, 2020, 10:31:49 AM
Sorry if this is a question that has already been addressed, but how do the Venture High 5.8s fare on anything larger than 8.5?
I just purchased an egg shaped 9.125 board and am planning on chucking the 5.8s on it. Am I fucking up? let me know cheers

They will work but you would be better off with 6.1s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on October 17, 2020, 08:44:49 AM
Cast 383g - what do those vlight weigh? Look good

I’m also curious. I weighed the cast standards 5.8s I just got, they were 380 g.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BMCsteve on October 18, 2020, 07:57:17 AM
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I’m also curious. I weighed the cast standards 5.8s I just got, they were 380 g.

You can basically knock off 25g per truck with a forged baseplate and hollow kingpin.  My V-hollow 5.8s were 355g.  6.1 V-hollow should be right around 360g
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on October 18, 2020, 12:07:05 PM
Thanks for the info! The drought forced my hand a bit, but I’m very happy with the standards so far. I like that the kingpin nut is flush and I am not getting any wheel bite. Also, it wasn’t until I switched out my old forged hollow indys that I realized one of them had a slightly bent axle. I thought something was off, but I suspected I was imagining it. Sure enough, after setting up the ventures, my wheels are rolling much better. I did that axle wobble test and confirmed the bent axle on my old trucks, as well. I’m surprised, I don’t jump down big shit anymore. Hopefully these standard axles will be more resistant to bending.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TheLowerBack on October 19, 2020, 11:57:18 PM
Anybody hear if they’re also going to be running the inverted kingpins?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on October 20, 2020, 08:01:54 AM
Thanks for the info! The drought forced my hand a bit, but I’m very happy with the standards so far. I like that the kingpin nut is flush and I am not getting any wheel bite. Also, it wasn’t until I switched out my old forged hollow indys that I realized one of them had a slightly bent axle. I thought something was off, but I suspected I was imagining it. Sure enough, after setting up the ventures, my wheels are rolling much better. I did that axle wobble test and confirmed the bent axle on my old trucks, as well. I’m surprised, I don’t jump down big shit anymore. Hopefully these standard axles will be more resistant to bending.
Yeah I'm pretty sure my old 144s have a bent axle and I also don't jump down anything super high. You'll like the standard ventures. They hold up great and the pinch is something else. Not to mention stability.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TurdyBird on October 24, 2020, 01:01:17 PM
New to the Venture truck game. I love them so far, and they work really well on my current deck. Its an 8.5 X 32.25 14.25 WB workshop board. Whether I stay at the same size or size down to 8.38 (trying to keep same length) what kind of WB should I be shoot for?

I've had boards with long wheel bases and anything over 14.5 is has not been ideal. As well, I'm digging the current deck so I'd like to have something similar as far as WB but thinking of slimming it down (trying to get those treflips consistent/proper). Should I stick to the 14.25 (hard to come by in the dims I'm wanting) or would 14.375 (deluxe/ Polar seem to be running this WB a lot) be worthy for my trucks? Thanks guys!!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 24, 2020, 11:23:05 PM
In a similar dilemma too. I want to get back on Ventures but I've grown accustomed to Thunders after riding them in a Santa Cruz deck with steep kicks + concave. The switch shouldn't be too hard but Ventures adding 3.25" - 3.5" to the WB is fucking with me. The deck is starting to razor but still has life; damn truck madness is stopping me from swapping to a fresh deck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lloyd Braun on October 25, 2020, 05:34:28 AM
Curious if anyone’s tried inverted kingpins on Ventures? If so what brand and overall thoughts? Worth it? Does it mess with the Geometry at all? Love Ventures but as I grind them down my kingpin makes Smith grinds on ledges harder especially if they’re concrete or granite. I don’t have any issues until I skate them for 4 months or more and it’s just that trick specifically that gives me issues.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BMCsteve on October 25, 2020, 07:02:05 AM
FYI - 6.1 V-Lights are 356g
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on October 25, 2020, 08:01:19 AM
FYI - 6.1 V-Lights are 356g

Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on October 25, 2020, 08:53:49 AM
Anyone know if venture has plans on releasing a 5.8 or 6.1 hollow light? Would be the perfect truck if they both came with hollow hangers.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wafools on October 25, 2020, 07:03:40 PM
Anybody hear if they’re also going to be running the inverted kingpins?

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(https://i.ibb.co/WnGCF7d/9-B56-AF3-B-FA92-440-B-B2-D0-E12111-BB3-B4-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WnGCF7d)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 25, 2020, 07:08:36 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/WnGCF7d/9-B56-AF3-B-FA92-440-B-B2-D0-E12111-BB3-B4-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WnGCF7d)

I'm intrigued, but I'm lazy and don't have sufficient tools to knock out the kingpin and nut.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wafools on October 25, 2020, 08:32:16 PM
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Anybody hear if they’re also going to be running the inverted kingpins?
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(https://i.ibb.co/WnGCF7d/9-B56-AF3-B-FA92-440-B-B2-D0-E12111-BB3-B4-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WnGCF7d)
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I'm intrigued, but I'm lazy and don't have sufficient tools to knock out the kingpin and nut.

Naw. It’s a whole new truck. From what it looks like it’s the same inverted kingpin that they have been running on thunders (see Ishods story’s on Ig). Trying to hit up a friend to try and get a set.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lamfordie on October 27, 2020, 04:01:18 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/WnGCF7d/9-B56-AF3-B-FA92-440-B-B2-D0-E12111-BB3-B4-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WnGCF7d)
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I'm intrigued, but I'm lazy and don't have sufficient tools to knock out the kingpin and nut.
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Naw. It’s a whole new truck. From what it looks like it’s the same inverted kingpin that they have been running on thunders (see Ishods story’s on Ig). Trying to hit up a friend to try and get a set.
Where can I get these?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 27, 2020, 05:39:40 PM
Looking like I'm a vhollow for life now?
Unless I can make my trucks like 5 full turns looser. That would be the balls.

I do not believe this is better. It's gotta be cheaper. That's usually why a industry wide gimmick happens.

Who needs an inverted kingpin on a Venture high?
 
Little kids who can't turn I hope. The only good truck they can skate with out me modding to death is ace.

I hope so frickin bad that normal kingpins are still around in 10 years.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on October 27, 2020, 08:04:38 PM
Looking like I'm a vhollow for life now?
Unless I can make my trucks like 5 full turns looser. That would be the balls.

I do not believe this is better. It's gotta be cheaper. That's usually why a industry wide gimmick happens.

Who needs an inverted kingpin on a Venture high?
 
Little kids who can't turn I hope. The only good truck they can skate with out me modding to death is ace.

I hope so frickin bad that normal kingpins are still around in 10 years.

Not saying I’m not gonna try it out if Indy sells baseplates separate. But I definitely think You’re right and it would be less work as far as manufacturing. The don’t  have to worry about tapping the baseplates just make a hole  and a lathe can make tons of this little jut adapter things in no time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on October 27, 2020, 08:18:01 PM
anyone know where i can find venture 5.6/5.8s in hollow or titanium? been on the hunt for months with no luck
not sure if you’re still lookin but here ya go

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Venture_V-Hollow_AP_High_Truck/descpage-VTHPHTR.html
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ricky bobby on October 28, 2020, 03:28:56 AM
I'm sure it's already been covered pages back, but has anyone swapped out their stock bushings for Bones medium bushings? I've recently started skating the 5.8s after many years of skating Indys and was wondering how much of a difference swapping the bushings would make. I'd seen Caleb McNeely running the Bones Mediums in his Ventures with no top washer and it got me curious.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on October 28, 2020, 03:37:47 AM
I'm sure it's already been covered pages back, but has anyone swapped out their stock bushings for Bones medium bushings? I've recently started skating the 5.8s after many years of skating Indys and was wondering how much of a difference swapping the bushings would make. I'd seen Caleb McNeely running the Bones Mediums in his Ventures with no top washer and it got me curious.

Make a big difference. I preferred the DLX supercush over the bones though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: NJFly318 on October 28, 2020, 06:32:10 AM
I'm sure it's already been covered pages back, but has anyone swapped out their stock bushings for Bones medium bushings? I've recently started skating the 5.8s after many years of skating Indys and was wondering how much of a difference swapping the bushings would make. I'd seen Caleb McNeely running the Bones Mediums in his Ventures with no top washer and it got me curious.
I ride the 5.8 and the 6.1’s both with the Indy white Supersoft bushings, once broken in they feel real nice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 28, 2020, 12:51:35 PM
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I'm sure it's already been covered pages back, but has anyone swapped out their stock bushings for Bones medium bushings? I've recently started skating the 5.8s after many years of skating Indys and was wondering how much of a difference swapping the bushings would make. I'd seen Caleb McNeely running the Bones Mediums in his Ventures with no top washer and it got me curious.
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Make a big difference. I preferred the DLX supercush over the bones though.

Yeah deluxe or stock Indy parts are the move.

I ride a bones top in the winter but it get destroyed because you can't fit a top washer on. I figured out that putting a few layers of super glue on the top of the plastic before you set up will help but not much.
Eventually the truck hanger will fall off when the cracked up plastic is ripped from the bushings

This year I'm just going order some thinner Ti kingpin nuts and put a washer on too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 28, 2020, 06:57:43 PM
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I'm sure it's already been covered pages back, but has anyone swapped out their stock bushings for Bones medium bushings? I've recently started skating the 5.8s after many years of skating Indys and was wondering how much of a difference swapping the bushings would make. I'd seen Caleb McNeely running the Bones Mediums in his Ventures with no top washer and it got me curious.
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Make a big difference. I preferred the DLX supercush over the bones though.
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Yeah deluxe or stock Indy parts are the move.

I ride a bones top in the winter but it get destroyed because you can't fit a top washer on. I figured out that putting a few layers of super glue on the top of the plastic before you set up will help but not much.
Eventually the truck hanger will fall off when the cracked up plastic is ripped from the bushings

This year I'm just going order some thinner Ti kingpin nuts and put a washer on too.


The thinner Ti nut is great, especially on 147 Thunders where you need more clearance, bug be warned, the nut being Ti means it can get sticky on flat bars/rails just like the Tih Theeves do.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 28, 2020, 08:06:21 PM
Anyone got a hook up for 5.2 or 5.6 Titaniums? Haven't rode Ventures in a hot minute and I want to give them another go. Loving the Thunder 148 Titanium but you can't beat the pinch or slide of a Venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FredGallsBallz on October 29, 2020, 07:16:47 AM
I've been a loyal Thunder 148 Team rider for the last few years and I'm pretty happy with them. How difficult will a switch to Venture 5.6 OG raws be for me? Is the height difference noticeable and is the wheel base that different between the two? I'm only thinking about it because I've got a chance to grab the Ventures at a good price. Thanks. Peace.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on October 29, 2020, 07:46:38 AM
I'm sure it's already been covered pages back, but has anyone swapped out their stock bushings for Bones medium bushings? I've recently started skating the 5.8s after many years of skating Indys and was wondering how much of a difference swapping the bushings would make. I'd seen Caleb McNeely running the Bones Mediums in his Ventures with no top washer and it got me curious.
That's exactly how I ride my 5.8s and I wouldn't ride them any other way.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 29, 2020, 08:34:12 AM
I've been a loyal Thunder 148 Team rider for the last few years and I'm pretty happy with them. How difficult will a switch to Venture 5.6 OG raws be for me? Is the height difference noticeable and is the wheel base that different between the two? I'm only thinking about it because I've got a chance to grab the Ventures at a good price. Thanks. Peace.

Thunder teams - + 3.15"
Venture standard - 3.25"

I think you'll be able to adjust in a session. Don't have the number for height but they are within 1-1.5mm of each other. Thunder 147 49.7mm, Venture 5.2 Lo 48.3 based on Ben Degros' video
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FredGallsBallz on October 29, 2020, 10:20:56 AM
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I've been a loyal Thunder 148 Team rider for the last few years and I'm pretty happy with them. How difficult will a switch to Venture 5.6 OG raws be for me? Is the height difference noticeable and is the wheel base that different between the two? I'm only thinking about it because I've got a chance to grab the Ventures at a good price. Thanks. Peace.
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Thunder teams - + 3.15"
Venture standard - 3.25"

I think you'll be able to adjust in a session. Don't have the number for height but they are within 1-1.5mm of each other. Thunder 147 49.7mm, Venture 5.2 Lo 48.3 based on Ben Degros' video

Thanks. I'm aware of the differences in the specs. I'm more curious about the difference in feel between the two.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ballintoohard on October 29, 2020, 10:22:22 AM
I've been a loyal Thunder 148 Team rider for the last few years and I'm pretty happy with them. How difficult will a switch to Venture 5.6 OG raws be for me? Is the height difference noticeable and is the wheel base that different between the two? I'm only thinking about it because I've got a chance to grab the Ventures at a good price. Thanks. Peace.

I have both of these trucks and used them on the same deck. You can get used to it decently quickly and the turn isn't crazy off IMO (I run my shit stock), but for me the pinch of things on the front truck felt off with Ventures and could take longer to figure out. I also suck. To be honest the Venture 5.6 are fine, but I don't see a point if the Thunders do me well. Didn't notice shit for nose/tailslides with the longer baseplate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 29, 2020, 11:43:26 AM
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I'm sure it's already been covered pages back, but has anyone swapped out their stock bushings for Bones medium bushings? I've recently started skating the 5.8s after many years of skating Indys and was wondering how much of a difference swapping the bushings would make. I'd seen Caleb McNeely running the Bones Mediums in his Ventures with no top washer and it got me curious.
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Make a big difference. I preferred the DLX supercush over the bones though.
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Yeah deluxe or stock Indy parts are the move.

I ride a bones top in the winter but it get destroyed because you can't fit a top washer on. I figured out that putting a few layers of super glue on the top of the plastic before you set up will help but not much.
Eventually the truck hanger will fall off when the cracked up plastic is ripped from the bushings

This year I'm just going order some thinner Ti kingpin nuts and put a washer on too.

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The thinner Ti nut is great, especially on 147 Thunders where you need more clearance, bug be warned, the nut being Ti means it can get sticky on flat bars/rails just like the Tih Theeves do.

Yeah that would suck. Everything at the new park is metal The rails are covered in this blue stuff though. It's not going to last.

I should just get some of that nylock I think it's called and flip the nut over.

I used to use black package store bags and super glue but it doesn't hold all the time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 29, 2020, 07:46:09 PM
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I've been a loyal Thunder 148 Team rider for the last few years and I'm pretty happy with them. How difficult will a switch to Venture 5.6 OG raws be for me? Is the height difference noticeable and is the wheel base that different between the two? I'm only thinking about it because I've got a chance to grab the Ventures at a good price. Thanks. Peace.
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Thunder teams - + 3.15"
Venture standard - 3.25"

I think you'll be able to adjust in a session. Don't have the number for height but they are within 1-1.5mm of each other. Thunder 147 49.7mm, Venture 5.2 Lo 48.3 based on Ben Degros' video
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Thanks. I'm aware of the differences in the specs. I'm more curious about the difference in feel between the two.

Didn't mean to be dismissive and prattle on about specs.

The biggest difference for me is pinch, the Ventures have a much wider / thicker hanger, so the pinch into ledges is much more assertive and you can adjust once its on to get a better lock in. Thunder with a narrower hanger need a much more precise lock into the edge. I definitely enjoy nosegrinds on Ventures a lot more than Thunders.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ricky bobby on October 30, 2020, 05:32:56 AM
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I'm sure it's already been covered pages back, but has anyone swapped out their stock bushings for Bones medium bushings? I've recently started skating the 5.8s after many years of skating Indys and was wondering how much of a difference swapping the bushings would make. I'd seen Caleb McNeely running the Bones Mediums in his Ventures with no top washer and it got me curious.
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That's exactly how I ride my 5.8s and I wouldn't ride them any other way.
Thanks for all the help Venture team <3
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TurdyBird on October 30, 2020, 09:13:24 AM
I've been enjoying my new Ventures for the past couple months, however...

The bushings are getting tore up somehow. They still ride fine and I've only noticed when simply just looking at them. Bottom bushing on one has a significant tear and the other one has a less noticeable tear in the top. Is this usual or maybe the heat fucked em up ( there was a gnarly heat wave where I live this past month)?

Looks like I'll be getting some bones mediums or thunder mediums next time I get a new deck, but not too concerned just yet.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FredGallsBallz on October 30, 2020, 11:39:26 AM
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I've been a loyal Thunder 148 Team rider for the last few years and I'm pretty happy with them. How difficult will a switch to Venture 5.6 OG raws be for me? Is the height difference noticeable and is the wheel base that different between the two? I'm only thinking about it because I've got a chance to grab the Ventures at a good price. Thanks. Peace.
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Thunder teams - + 3.15"
Venture standard - 3.25"

I think you'll be able to adjust in a session. Don't have the number for height but they are within 1-1.5mm of each other. Thunder 147 49.7mm, Venture 5.2 Lo 48.3 based on Ben Degros' video
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Thanks. I'm aware of the differences in the specs. I'm more curious about the difference in feel between the two.
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Didn't mean to be dismissive and prattle on about specs.

The biggest difference for me is pinch, the Ventures have a much wider / thicker hanger, so the pinch into ledges is much more assertive and you can adjust once its on to get a better lock in. Thunder with a narrower hanger need a much more precise lock into the edge. I definitely enjoy nosegrinds on Ventures a lot more than Thunders.

Cool. Thanks again for the feedback.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on October 30, 2020, 07:42:19 PM
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I'm sure it's already been covered pages back, but has anyone swapped out their stock bushings for Bones medium bushings? I've recently started skating the 5.8s after many years of skating Indys and was wondering how much of a difference swapping the bushings would make. I'd seen Caleb McNeely running the Bones Mediums in his Ventures with no top washer and it got me curious.
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That's exactly how I ride my 5.8s and I wouldn't ride them any other way.
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Thanks for all the help Venture team <3
Ben Gore also uses bones mediums in his venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Leib, Son of Nat on October 31, 2020, 09:54:58 AM
I have old bones hard lower bushings and newer bones soft top bushings (cheese grated down to about 9.8mm. Yes, I have a micrometer.) Flat washer top, no washer bottom. Turn great.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on November 01, 2020, 08:49:57 AM
Im Looking for some feedback from anyone who's ever skated 6.1s on a 8.5, please and thank you.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 01, 2020, 04:19:05 PM
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I'm sure it's already been covered pages back, but has anyone swapped out their stock bushings for Bones medium bushings? I've recently started skating the 5.8s after many years of skating Indys and was wondering how much of a difference swapping the bushings would make. I'd seen Caleb McNeely running the Bones Mediums in his Ventures with no top washer and it got me curious.
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That's exactly how I ride my 5.8s and I wouldn't ride them any other way.
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Thanks for all the help Venture team <3
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Ben Gore also uses bones mediums in his venture.

While I prefer the feeling of a barrel bottom in ventures for the stability, bones and a flat top washer really get them feeling great at the cost of being less stable (if you ride loose).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on November 02, 2020, 08:44:56 AM
Im Looking for some feedback from anyone who's ever skated 6.1s on a 8.5, please and thank you.

for a little over a week i've been fighting the urge to buy 6.1 v-lights.  i skate 8.5s also and am curious how they would feel.  i'm riding a pair of titanium 5.8s right now with riptide pivot cups and a flat top washer.  i love them, but wonder if i would like them even more with a bit more room.  i know John Dilo skates standard 6.1s on his 8.5s if thats worth anything to you
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on November 02, 2020, 08:54:53 AM
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Im Looking for some feedback from anyone who's ever skated 6.1s on a 8.5, please and thank you.
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for a little over a week i've been fighting the urge to buy 6.1 v-lights.  i skate 8.5s also and am curious how they would feel.  i'm riding a pair of titanium 5.8s right now with riptide pivot cups and a flat top washer.  i love them, but wonder if i would like them even more with a bit more room.  i know John Dilo skates standard 6.1s on his 8.5s if thats worth anything to you
Thanks man, I actually have never skated an 8.5. popsicle. I am moving up in board sizes and happen to have a pair of 6.1s laying around. If it works for Dilo, I'm pretty sure it won't be holding me back haha
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 02, 2020, 09:19:16 AM
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Im Looking for some feedback from anyone who's ever skated 6.1s on a 8.5, please and thank you.
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for a little over a week i've been fighting the urge to buy 6.1 v-lights.  i skate 8.5s also and am curious how they would feel.  i'm riding a pair of titanium 5.8s right now with riptide pivot cups and a flat top washer.  i love them, but wonder if i would like them even more with a bit more room.  i know John Dilo skates standard 6.1s on his 8.5s if thats worth anything to you
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Thanks man, I actually have never skated an 8.5. popsicle. I am moving up in board sizes and happen to have a pair of 6.1s laying around. If it works for Dilo, I'm pretty sure it won't be holding me back haha

I’ve tried cast 5.8s and....those are too beast for me. Love the way they look, and I have not tried them on any hills (I really think they’d be dope for this), but trying to flip em around was not gonna happen with my fat mr burns physique. The pop was dope tho. Anyways, whenever I see a Dilo flip trick out of an 8 manual combination ....his ankles must be buff as hell.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on November 02, 2020, 10:33:06 AM
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Im Looking for some feedback from anyone who's ever skated 6.1s on a 8.5, please and thank you.
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for a little over a week i've been fighting the urge to buy 6.1 v-lights.  i skate 8.5s also and am curious how they would feel.  i'm riding a pair of titanium 5.8s right now with riptide pivot cups and a flat top washer.  i love them, but wonder if i would like them even more with a bit more room.  i know John Dilo skates standard 6.1s on his 8.5s if thats worth anything to you
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Thanks man, I actually have never skated an 8.5. popsicle. I am moving up in board sizes and happen to have a pair of 6.1s laying around. If it works for Dilo, I'm pretty sure it won't be holding me back haha
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I’ve tried cast 5.8s and....those are too beast for me. Love the way they look, and I have not tried them on any hills (I really think they’d be dope for this), but trying to flip em around was not gonna happen with my fat mr burns physique. The pop was dope tho. Anyways, whenever I see a Dilo flip trick out of an 8 manual combination ....his ankles must be buff as hell.
They are definitely beast for sure. I have only tried the 6.1s on 9+ shaped boards, and it hasnt worked out. I'm hoping that with the 8.5 it will flip easier for my old ass. They are way too sexy of a truck to be sitting in a shoe box collecting dust.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on November 02, 2020, 11:45:44 AM
keep us posted bro!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on November 02, 2020, 01:04:22 PM
keep us posted bro!
Absolutely!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BMCsteve on November 02, 2020, 01:19:18 PM
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Im Looking for some feedback from anyone who's ever skated 6.1s on a 8.5, please and thank you.
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for a little over a week i've been fighting the urge to buy 6.1 v-lights.  i skate 8.5s also and am curious how they would feel.  i'm riding a pair of titanium 5.8s right now with riptide pivot cups and a flat top washer.  i love them, but wonder if i would like them even more with a bit more room.  i know John Dilo skates standard 6.1s on his 8.5s if thats worth anything to you
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Thanks man, I actually have never skated an 8.5. popsicle. I am moving up in board sizes and happen to have a pair of 6.1s laying around. If it works for Dilo, I'm pretty sure it won't be holding me back haha
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I’ve tried cast 5.8s and....those are too beast for me. Love the way they look, and I have not tried them on any hills (I really think they’d be dope for this), but trying to flip em around was not gonna happen with my fat mr burns physique. The pop was dope tho. Anyways, whenever I see a Dilo flip trick out of an 8 manual combination ....his ankles must be buff as hell.
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They are definitely beast for sure. I have only tried the 6.1s on 9+ shaped boards, and it hasnt worked out. I'm hoping that with the 8.5 it will flip easier for my old ass. They are way too sexy of a truck to be sitting in a shoe box collecting dust.

6.1s on an 8.5.  Incredibly stable but I wouldnt recommend it if you skate a lot of tranny.  The venture turn with the lack of leverage from a skinnier board makes quick turns hard.  you can manual for days though

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49905634718_1ba6eb45e9_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on November 02, 2020, 01:34:37 PM
really like that whole setup
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Post by: jay_nev on November 02, 2020, 01:37:10 PM
really like that whole setup
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Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on November 02, 2020, 01:46:23 PM
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really like that whole setup
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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jamersonbass on November 02, 2020, 01:47:53 PM
Im Looking for some feedback from anyone who's ever skated 6.1s on a 8.5, please and thank you.

I'm running some 6.1's on an 8.5 FA at the moment.  I have two other setups that have 5.8's and 5.6's on them.  I really like the turn of 6.1's.  And then offset is pretty much like riding an 8.25 with 5.8's or 149's. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on November 02, 2020, 02:00:18 PM
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Im Looking for some feedback from anyone who's ever skated 6.1s on a 8.5, please and thank you.
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I'm running some 6.1's on an 8.5 FA at the moment.  I have two other setups that have 5.8's and 5.6's on them.  I really like the turn of 6.1's.  And then offset is pretty much like riding an 8.25 with 5.8's or 149's.
I have skated 8.25s with both of those trucks and liked it, so Im glad to hear that. And @BMCsteve  I am not really into tranny, but its my only choice in the 6-7 months of winter that I endure. So maybe I will just bring my fatty-boombalatty 9.5 to those sessions.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hellawatters on November 02, 2020, 02:41:20 PM
Been riding 6.1 V-lights for a couple weeks now and have been enjoying them. Have been feeling that the bushings don't have much of a rebound to them. In others' experience do the stock bushings firm up after a bit or would it make sense to swap in a conical bottom bushing or a set of bones bushings for a bit mroe bounce back?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Road Dawg on November 02, 2020, 02:50:32 PM
Do forged vs. cast Ventures have pretty different feelings? I have a set of cast 5.8's from around 2013 that never work for me no matter what deck I put them on. Just feels awful when I throw my board down and start pushing. Have they changed since then?

Standard Thunders are my go to, but curious about trying some forged Hi Ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 02, 2020, 02:54:55 PM
all this dilo talk has me wanting to retire the forged hangers for a bit of an experiment...

my goal is to ollie one of the green nyc trashcans by the summer, i have the leg length to do it in theory. scratching my head on if heavier trucks would help the board keep coming up.

i dont know if its a conspiracy yet but i think all the pros with massive pop ride standards
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 02, 2020, 03:35:54 PM
all this dilo talk has me wanting to retire the forged hangers for a bit of an experiment...

my goal is to ollie one of the green nyc trashcans by the summer, i have the leg length to do it in theory. scratching my head on if heavier trucks would help the board keep coming up.

i dont know if its a conspiracy yet but i think all the pros with massive pop ride standards

They ride what's free in the box...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 02, 2020, 10:30:43 PM
Do forged vs. cast Ventures have pretty different feelings? I have a set of cast 5.8's from around 2013 that never work for me no matter what deck I put them on. Just feels awful when I throw my board down and start pushing. Have they changed since then?

Standard Thunders are my go to, but curious about trying some forged Hi Ventures

Night and day IMO. Struggling coming back to Ventures after riding Thunder 148 Titanium, adjustment time of around 2 sessions I would gander to get the timing and pop back. the additional 0.25" to WB really gets to me on decks with a WB longer than 14".
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on November 03, 2020, 01:51:59 AM
all this dilo talk has me wanting to retire the forged hangers for a bit of an experiment...

my goal is to ollie one of the green nyc trashcans by the summer, i have the leg length to do it in theory. scratching my head on if heavier trucks would help the board keep coming up.

i dont know if its a conspiracy yet but i think all the pros with massive pop ride standards

I dont think that matters to those pros lol, dont worry bout the trucks worry bout your technique you got dis
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on November 06, 2020, 07:24:39 AM
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Thanks for the info! The drought forced my hand a bit, but I’m very happy with the standards so far. I like that the kingpin nut is flush and I am not getting any wheel bite. Also, it wasn’t until I switched out my old forged hollow indys that I realized one of them had a slightly bent axle. I thought something was off, but I suspected I was imagining it. Sure enough, after setting up the ventures, my wheels are rolling much better. I did that axle wobble test and confirmed the bent axle on my old trucks, as well. I’m surprised, I don’t jump down big shit anymore. Hopefully these standard axles will be more resistant to bending.
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Yeah I'm pretty sure my old 144s have a bent axle and I also don't jump down anything super high. You'll like the standard ventures. They hold up great and the pinch is something else. Not to mention stability.

Oh my word, you were not kidding. It’s weird breaking in new trucks after ages of skating the same set, but maaaan I’m really liking these so far.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lloyd Braun on November 08, 2020, 01:11:54 AM
Just ordered come krux inverted kingpins. Current trucks are about done and im curious.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TurdyBird on November 11, 2020, 08:24:24 AM
I got Venture 5.6 polished highs. Usually ride 8.5- 8.375 X 32.25. Hard to find something 14.25WB in those dims. Considering my trucks are likely forged will 14.5 fuck me up?

I've read past posts and I'm assuming the answer yes but I'm having a hard time accepting it. I need a reality check from someone/multiple people.

Looking like I'll have to size down the length :(.

Sorry to beat a dead horse guys.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ballintoohard on November 11, 2020, 08:29:26 PM
Back on 5.6's on my Generator FA setup (Gino deck can only have Ventures) and liking them so far. Good lock in. Pop feel is a bit on the heavier side, but way better than when I tried Indys. The weird thing is that they seem to lock in on 50-50s and 5-0's better than anything.

Briefly fucked with the bushings and didn't see the point of Bones or Ace. Ace didn't feel much different really, Bones just aren't for me I think.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Deekay on November 12, 2020, 04:35:56 AM
Is there a height difference between the cast and forged plates? How high are each? Trying to figure out trucks for a 7.75 setup but there's no way I'd ride a 55mm high truck on a board that skinny and trying to avoid lows as I like to turn.

Tactics just shows them both as 53.5 but it feels doubtful.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on November 12, 2020, 04:54:08 AM
Is there a height difference between the cast and forged plates? How high are each? Trying to figure out trucks for a 7.75 setup but there's no way I'd ride a 55mm high truck on a board that skinny and trying to avoid lows as I like to turn.

Tactics just shows them both as 53.5 but it feels doubtful.

Casts are 53.5 and forged are 52.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Deekay on November 12, 2020, 05:33:55 AM
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Is there a height difference between the cast and forged plates? How high are each? Trying to figure out trucks for a 7.75 setup but there's no way I'd ride a 55mm high truck on a board that skinny and trying to avoid lows as I like to turn.

Tactics just shows them both as 53.5 but it feels doubtful.
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Casts are 53.5 and forged are 52.

Great, thank you!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on November 12, 2020, 06:07:23 AM
I got Venture 5.6 polished highs. Usually ride 8.5- 8.375 X 32.25. Hard to find something 14.25WB in those dims. Considering my trucks are likely forged will 14.5 fuck me up?

I've read past posts and I'm assuming the answer yes but I'm having a hard time accepting it. I need a reality check from someone/multiple people.

Looking like I'll have to size down the length :(.

Sorry to beat a dead horse guys.

Are you sure it has a forged baseplate? Either way, I think you’ll be fine. I put 5.8 polished high on a 8.5 deck with 14.5 wheelbase and it feels fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TurdyBird on November 12, 2020, 07:18:11 AM
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I got Venture 5.6 polished highs. Usually ride 8.5- 8.375 X 32.25. Hard to find something 14.25WB in those dims. Considering my trucks are likely forged will 14.5 fuck me up?

I've read past posts and I'm assuming the answer yes but I'm having a hard time accepting it. I need a reality check from someone/multiple people.

Looking like I'll have to size down the length :(.

Sorry to beat a dead horse guys.
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Are you sure it has a forged baseplate? Either way, I think you’ll be fine. I put 5.8 polished high on a 8.5 deck with 14.5 wheelbase and it feels fine.

I got them pretty recently and the same ones are described as having a forged baseplate on skate warehouse. Thank you for responding Janus!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on November 12, 2020, 09:34:47 AM
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I got Venture 5.6 polished highs. Usually ride 8.5- 8.375 X 32.25. Hard to find something 14.25WB in those dims. Considering my trucks are likely forged will 14.5 fuck me up?

I've read past posts and I'm assuming the answer yes but I'm having a hard time accepting it. I need a reality check from someone/multiple people.

Looking like I'll have to size down the length :(.

Sorry to beat a dead horse guys.
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Are you sure it has a forged baseplate? Either way, I think you’ll be fine. I put 5.8 polished high on a 8.5 deck with 14.5 wheelbase and it feels fine.
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I got them pretty recently and the same ones are described as having a forged baseplate on skate warehouse. Thank you for responding Janus!

No worries. I checked out the skate warehouse site and saw that they listed the OG venture highs as having a forged baseplate, but the venture site says polished baseplate. I assume you got lights or hollows?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TurdyBird on November 12, 2020, 10:02:43 AM
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I got Venture 5.6 polished highs. Usually ride 8.5- 8.375 X 32.25. Hard to find something 14.25WB in those dims. Considering my trucks are likely forged will 14.5 fuck me up?

I've read past posts and I'm assuming the answer yes but I'm having a hard time accepting it. I need a reality check from someone/multiple people.

Looking like I'll have to size down the length :(.

Sorry to beat a dead horse guys.
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Are you sure it has a forged baseplate? Either way, I think you’ll be fine. I put 5.8 polished high on a 8.5 deck with 14.5 wheelbase and it feels fine.
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I got them pretty recently and the same ones are described as having a forged baseplate on skate warehouse. Thank you for responding Janus!
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No worries. I checked out the skate warehouse site and saw that they listed the OG venture highs as having a forged baseplate, but the venture site says polished baseplate. I assume you got lights or hollows?

No, they are not. I've noticed SW shortcuts sometimes and uses a general template description for products. They are OG polished Venture Highs. No tech to them. I guess I don't need to trip then! I think I already did but I'm gonna make sure to give you a gnar bro  8) haha. Thank you dude!!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Festivus on November 12, 2020, 05:31:23 PM
Blacklist just got in a shipment of 5.6 v-hollows/v-lights if anyone has been trying to score a pair

http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/trucks-cid-113?Brand=VENTURE (http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/trucks-cid-113?Brand=VENTURE)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lamfordie on November 13, 2020, 11:11:08 AM
Anyone know where I can get the 5.8 in hollow or lights.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DeepSpace9mm on November 13, 2020, 11:15:59 AM
Anyone know where I can get the 5.8 in hollow or lights.

Parade has 5.8 lights
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on November 13, 2020, 12:30:40 PM
pretty sure 5.8 hollows do not exist.  just standard, vlights, and titaniums
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gyros4heroes on November 14, 2020, 06:04:48 AM
I got Venture 5.6 polished highs. Usually ride 8.5- 8.375 X 32.25. Hard to find something 14.25WB in those dims. Considering my trucks are likely forged will 14.5 fuck me up?

I've read past posts and I'm assuming the answer yes but I'm having a hard time accepting it. I need a reality check from someone/multiple people.

Looking like I'll have to size down the length :(.

Sorry to beat a dead horse guys.

habitat and quasi surely do that shape
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 14, 2020, 08:10:15 AM
China has started making Venture Titanium 5.2 Hi counterfeits, specifically the 2018-ish P-Rod golden eagle model with the white graphic on the hanger.

4 dead giveaways for me:
1) These are a 2018-ish model but are sold as brand new
2) Sticker on the baseplate list production used the DD/MM/YYYY date format, genuine ones use MM/DD/YY
3) Sticker on the baseplate has the "pass these trucks along after you're done skating them" text, which to my knowledge only appeared in 2020
4) Price, these are $35 shipped to your doorstep, typically retail for twice that

Probably won't matter to most of you guys but I'm imploring your help. My buddy and I have been warning our local scenes about counterfeit Bones bearings, Baker / Crail / Toy Machine decks, Independent trucks and Spitfire wheels. No knocking anyone for buying or using them, they perform adequately or above their price. Our issue is online retailers and legitimate shops marketing them as genuine and selling them at full price. So we are doing our best to educate our local scenes: watch out for counterfeits.

Asking if anyone on here has a pair of 5.2 V-Titanium Hi, ideally the same model in relatively good condition. If you're able to send us pictures of how much they weigh, stickers the baseplate, general condition, that would really help out cause. We are doing a series of post on IG on how to spot the fakes and need photos for a side by side comparison. US branded trucks (especially Thunder and Titanium) are exceedingly hard to come by so your pictures would help us do a good side by side comparison.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001724255941.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.2adc2ab1hpORMW&algo_pvid=7d7ce43e-9b30-4d87-86c7-3964bc9bfc6c&algo_expid=7d7ce43e-9b30-4d87-86c7-3964bc9bfc6c-1&btsid=0bb0623f16053700747428162eef99&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

Here is a link for the trucks. The seller does not show pictures of their other trucks in sale but they are selling counterfeit Indys, probably some pressure from NHS' distributors to stem the flow to retailers.
They are also selling Venture x Thrasher 5.2 trucks with a hollow kingpin. Genuine ones only come in Standard.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on November 14, 2020, 08:33:43 AM
Goddamn, good looking out. As an aside, any tips for spotting fake bones bearings and Baker decks? I trust the shop I frequent, but who knows these days, right?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Rogue on November 14, 2020, 09:11:33 AM
Have you asked the people at DLX about the fake stuff? I mean, it could be a fake but you can’t be 100%. How big of a profit do you think is being made by manufacturing and selling this fake stuff, to such a small market? It seems like it’s not even worth it. Maybe they’re factory seconds or blems?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 14, 2020, 09:22:07 AM
Goddamn, good looking out. As an aside, any tips for spotting fake bones bearings and Baker decks? I trust the shop I frequent, but who knows these days, right?

For Bones bearings just stick with your trusted retailers and shops, hopefully they aren't selling a mix of genuine and fake ones to customers to enjoy that sweet sweet dollar averaging. Avoid Amazon, Aliexpress or eBay listings. @Mbrimson88 swears the fakes use lubricant that has a distinctive smell. Don't have them handy to do the whiff test.

For Baker boards it was a select few models - original red + while logo, Baker Logo with pros names at the bottom (Kader, Figgy, Baca, Reynolds), haven't seen too many of them outside of Asia.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 14, 2020, 10:49:37 AM
China has started making Venture Titanium 5.2 Hi counterfeits, specifically the 2018-ish P-Rod golden eagle model with the white graphic on the hanger.

4 dead giveaways for me:
1) These are a 2018-ish model but are sold as brand new
2) Sticker on the baseplate list production used the DD/MM/YYYY date format, genuine ones use MM/DD/YY
3) Sticker on the baseplate has the "pass these trucks along after you're done skating them" text, which to my knowledge only appeared in 2020
4) Price, these are $35 shipped to your doorstep, typically retail for twice that

Probably won't matter to most of you guys but I'm imploring your help. My buddy and I have been warning our local scenes about counterfeit Bones bearings, Baker / Crail / Toy Machine decks, Independent trucks and Spitfire wheels. No knocking anyone for buying or using them, they perform adequately or above their price. Our issue is online retailers and legitimate shops marketing them as genuine and selling them at full price. So we are doing our best to educate our local scenes: watch out for counterfeits.

Asking if anyone on here has a pair of 5.2 V-Titanium Hi, ideally the same model in relatively good condition. If you're able to send us pictures of how much they weigh, stickers the baseplate, general condition, that would really help out cause. We are doing a series of post on IG on how to spot the fakes and need photos for a side by side comparison. US branded trucks (especially Thunder and Titanium) are exceedingly hard to come by so your pictures would help us do a good side by side comparison.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001724255941.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.2adc2ab1hpORMW&algo_pvid=7d7ce43e-9b30-4d87-86c7-3964bc9bfc6c&algo_expid=7d7ce43e-9b30-4d87-86c7-3964bc9bfc6c-1&btsid=0bb0623f16053700747428162eef99&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

Here is a link for the trucks. The seller does not show pictures of their other trucks in sale but they are selling counterfeit Indys, probably some pressure from NHS' distributors to stem the flow to retailers.
They are also selling Venture x Thrasher 5.2 trucks with a hollow kingpin. Genuine ones only come in Standard.

"Factory storage venture 5.25inch skateboard trucks magnalium truck carbon steel kingpin skate truck"

magnalium
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 14, 2020, 04:44:03 PM
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China has started making Venture Titanium 5.2 Hi counterfeits, specifically the 2018-ish P-Rod golden eagle model with the white graphic on the hanger.

4 dead giveaways for me:
1) These are a 2018-ish model but are sold as brand new
2) Sticker on the baseplate list production used the DD/MM/YYYY date format, genuine ones use MM/DD/YY
3) Sticker on the baseplate has the "pass these trucks along after you're done skating them" text, which to my knowledge only appeared in 2020
4) Price, these are $35 shipped to your doorstep, typically retail for twice that

Probably won't matter to most of you guys but I'm imploring your help. My buddy and I have been warning our local scenes about counterfeit Bones bearings, Baker / Crail / Toy Machine decks, Independent trucks and Spitfire wheels. No knocking anyone for buying or using them, they perform adequately or above their price. Our issue is online retailers and legitimate shops marketing them as genuine and selling them at full price. So we are doing our best to educate our local scenes: watch out for counterfeits.

Asking if anyone on here has a pair of 5.2 V-Titanium Hi, ideally the same model in relatively good condition. If you're able to send us pictures of how much they weigh, stickers the baseplate, general condition, that would really help out cause. We are doing a series of post on IG on how to spot the fakes and need photos for a side by side comparison. US branded trucks (especially Thunder and Titanium) are exceedingly hard to come by so your pictures would help us do a good side by side comparison.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001724255941.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.2adc2ab1hpORMW&algo_pvid=7d7ce43e-9b30-4d87-86c7-3964bc9bfc6c&algo_expid=7d7ce43e-9b30-4d87-86c7-3964bc9bfc6c-1&btsid=0bb0623f16053700747428162eef99&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

Here is a link for the trucks. The seller does not show pictures of their other trucks in sale but they are selling counterfeit Indys, probably some pressure from NHS' distributors to stem the flow to retailers.
They are also selling Venture x Thrasher 5.2 trucks with a hollow kingpin. Genuine ones only come in Standard.
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"Factory storage venture 5.25inch skateboard trucks magnalium truck carbon steel kingpin skate truck"

magnalium

You can guarantee they will mangle the English language. I ordered a pair, see if they are legit. Also because I have an unhealthy obsession with counterfeit skate products.

SG$ 36.13 | Skateboard Trucks 139 Spitfire Hollow Kingpin Purple 5.25 Inch  Skate Metal Accessories High Quality Truck
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPfDm77

Just what we all wanted- Spitfire trucks in eggplant purple!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on November 16, 2020, 01:45:28 PM
Fickle old me set up some 5.8s again after hitting axle on my Ace 44s. Running the bones flat washer with some Indy 96a bushings and the turn is nice and deep with no wheelbite (even with my 56mm loopholes). I am going to try and stick with these for a bit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 16, 2020, 03:01:03 PM
i'm wanting to give the 5.8s another run. tried to ride them on a sage fa board that i just never liked (too steep/couldnt vibe with it, my fault0. what board you running?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on November 16, 2020, 03:42:29 PM
5.8 is the tits on a 8.38-8.5 quasi
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on November 17, 2020, 04:25:16 AM
i'm wanting to give the 5.8s another run. tried to ride them on a sage fa board that i just never liked (too steep/couldnt vibe with it, my fault0. what board you running?

An 8.5 Hockey, posted it when I was still running the aces in the setup thread a little ago. I decided to make myself skate a normal 8.5 and not worry about a shape or concave or whatever. It has taken some getting used to but I am not bugging so hard or doing mental gymnastics trying to figure out where I am going to find whatever football shape.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: arrbee on November 17, 2020, 04:38:40 AM
5.8 is the tits on a 8.38-8.5 quasi

This is truth, 6.1's on 8.5 is also real nice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 17, 2020, 05:01:40 AM
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5.8 is the tits on a 8.38-8.5 quasi
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This is truth, 6.1's on 8.5 is also real nice.
running 5.6's on a quasi 8.5 and skating my best yet
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 17, 2020, 06:55:38 AM
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i'm wanting to give the 5.8s another run. tried to ride them on a sage fa board that i just never liked (too steep/couldnt vibe with it, my fault0. what board you running?
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An 8.5 Hockey, posted it when I was still running the aces in the setup thread a little ago. I decided to make myself skate a normal 8.5 and not worry about a shape or concave or whatever. It has taken some getting used to but I am not bugging so hard or doing mental gymnastics trying to figure out where I am going to find whatever football shape.


dope, thanks for the reply. set ups that get me more in the grab and go mood are the way, as opposed to me trying to scheme the perfect blend of factors i dont completely understand (bigger boards feel better, but i start to lose some of my very few tricks, 360 flips in particular, but i have a weird cruiser pool shape with a 14.75 wb that i can 360 flip better than any other board i have, and i am short, soooo all im trying to say is that tail angles/lengths, and overall proportions play a bigger part than i realize).

my last time on 5.8s the first things that jumped out to me was that my ollie felt great, and it has been very lacking, and that the bushings needed some time to break in. im hyped for some hill bombs.

always been better with overhang, so 8.5 on 5.6 sounds good
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: slappyjoes on November 17, 2020, 01:44:03 PM
How much wider are 6.1 compared to 5.8?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on November 17, 2020, 02:12:53 PM
How much wider are 6.1 compared to 5.8?
0.25"   
6.1 are 8.75" and 5.8 are 8.5"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fat Tony on November 20, 2020, 05:29:31 AM
Apologies for the dumb question, but do they make 5.8s in a low? I can’t find them anywhere if they do, or find mention of anything in low other than 5.0 and 5.2. Just wanted to be sure before I buy a high set of 5.8s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on November 20, 2020, 05:34:57 AM
Apologies for the dumb question, but do they make 5.8s in a low? I can’t find them anywhere if they do, or find mention of anything in low other than 5.0 and 5.2. Just wanted to be sure before I buy a high set of 5.8s.

Nah, they only go up to 5.2 in low. That being said, the highs are only 53.5mm in cast (standard) and 52mm in forged (light, hollow).

Not trashing the lows because they look and skate great and were the only trucks I skated for a decade plus, but be warned that they have zero kingpin clearance and will bite with any wheel over 51mm.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fat Tony on November 20, 2020, 08:03:09 PM
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Apologies for the dumb question, but do they make 5.8s in a low? I can’t find them anywhere if they do, or find mention of anything in low other than 5.0 and 5.2. Just wanted to be sure before I buy a high set of 5.8s.
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Nah, they only go up to 5.2 in low. That being said, the highs are only 53.5mm in cast (standard) and 52mm in forged (light, hollow).

Not trashing the lows because they look and skate great and were the only trucks I skated for a decade plus, but be warned that they have zero kingpin clearance and will bite with any wheel over 51mm.

Thanks. I’m currently on 54mm so that would be a problem. Looking for a more stable truck than the Indy hollows I’m currently using.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: s0lkatt on November 21, 2020, 02:39:00 AM
So uh does anyone else feel like it's more exhausting to skate low trucks rather than high? For the last year I've been skating a pair of 5.2 lows, recently got a new setup with 5.8s and I feel like my legs dont get as tired skating the 5.8s. Both boards have similar shapes and wb.

I mean I love my 5.2s but it feels odd that I get more tired skating the low & light setup. Maybe has something to do with the pop feel
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 21, 2020, 04:16:12 AM
pretty sure 5.8 hollows do not exist.  just standard, vlights, and titaniums

I noticed when looking on the new Venture catalog from Deluxe, there are more options now than when I had seen before, including all options in 5.8 size.  This might not be so new, or it might be very new, but it is interesting seeing the options.

The Venture team roster is growing and picking up some really good riders too, so well worth a mention for that too.

https://venturetrucks.net/


(https://i.ibb.co/Xxds66y/Venture-04-d4-polished-dt.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Xxds66y)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on November 21, 2020, 05:38:25 AM
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pretty sure 5.8 hollows do not exist.  just standard, vlights, and titaniums
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I noticed when looking on the new Venture catalog from Deluxe, there are more options now than when I had seen before, including all options in 5.8 size.  This might not be so new, or it might be very new, but it is interesting seeing the options.

The Venture team roster is growing and picking up some really good riders too, so well worth a mention for that too.

https://venturetrucks.net/


(https://i.ibb.co/Xxds66y/Venture-04-d4-polished-dt.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Xxds66y)

5.8 vhollow is definitely new to the line up. Before they only had them in standard raw and vlights.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on November 21, 2020, 09:11:29 AM
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Apologies for the dumb question, but do they make 5.8s in a low? I can’t find them anywhere if they do, or find mention of anything in low other than 5.0 and 5.2. Just wanted to be sure before I buy a high set of 5.8s.
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Nah, they only go up to 5.2 in low. That being said, the highs are only 53.5mm in cast (standard) and 52mm in forged (light, hollow).

Not trashing the lows because they look and skate great and were the only trucks I skated for a decade plus, but be warned that they have zero kingpin clearance and will bite with any wheel over 51mm.
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Thanks. I’m currently on 54mm so that would be a problem. Looking for a more stable truck than the Indy hollows I’m currently using.

I tried venture highs because of similar issues with my indys. I am still very happy with the switch.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Schinken on November 24, 2020, 10:28:04 AM
Do the stock clear purple bushings get better after a few sessions? Mine feel like knead. Bad return to center.

If I change bushings in my venture 6.1 high to bones hardcore medium, should I use the stockwashers or not?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on November 24, 2020, 10:51:47 AM
Do the stock clear purple bushings get better after a few sessions? Mine feel like knead. Bad return to center.

If I change bushings in my venture 6.1 high to bones hardcore medium, should I use the stockwashers or not?

like most bushings, i'd say one or two sessions should suffice to ride them in. maybe they are sturdier due to colder weather?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hellawatters on November 24, 2020, 12:40:53 PM
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Do the stock clear purple bushings get better after a few sessions? Mine feel like knead. Bad return to center.

If I change bushings in my venture 6.1 high to bones hardcore medium, should I use the stockwashers or not?
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like most bushings, i'd say one or two sessions should suffice to ride them in. maybe they are sturdier due to colder weather?

I've noticed the same with mine. They seem to feel a little more lively after a few sessions, but they still aren't rebounding great. May try putting in some bones bushings next rainy day. Curious about others' experience.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 24, 2020, 02:12:33 PM
Do the stock clear purple bushings get better after a few sessions? Mine feel like knead. Bad return to center.

If I change bushings in my venture 6.1 high to bones hardcore medium, should I use the stockwashers or not?

When you look at the truck from side on, the hanger yoke (the bit round the bushings) should sit pretty much parallel with the base plate when the bushings are seated correctly.  If you put in other bushings, see if the angle has changed, as this will also change how the trucks turn.  If the Bones or other bushings are causing the truck hanger not to sit at the same angle, put in the washers and see if this makes it sit where it should.

I know lots of people don't run the metal washers at all which works fine for them, but others find that the Bones bushings crush and split easily without having the metal washers in.  One option that does work is use the existing stock smaller top washer on the bottom for the Bones bushings and then use the thin metal one that comes with the set on the top.

You can always try a few options just looking at it before tightening it all down.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on November 24, 2020, 08:31:01 PM
Odd question (maybe) but has anyone tried putting 5.2 high hangars (from the regular raw ones) onto the baseplates from a 5.2 low hollow light? Would that work? Asking cus I didn’t realize how heavy the normal ventures are and I have leg strength comparable to Stephen Hawking (rip). Trying to get any advantage I can lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on November 25, 2020, 06:00:27 AM
Odd question (maybe) but has anyone tried putting 5.2 high hangars (from the regular raw ones) onto the baseplates from a 5.2 low hollow light? Would that work? Asking cus I didn’t realize how heavy the normal ventures are and I have leg strength comparable to Stephen Hawking (rip). Trying to get any advantage I can lol.

Yes, Venture hangers are interchangeable between baseplates. The lows use the same plates as the highs, the standard hangers can be used with light plates, etc.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on November 25, 2020, 12:23:08 PM
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Odd question (maybe) but has anyone tried putting 5.2 high hangars (from the regular raw ones) onto the baseplates from a 5.2 low hollow light? Would that work? Asking cus I didn’t realize how heavy the normal ventures are and I have leg strength comparable to Stephen Hawking (rip). Trying to get any advantage I can lol.
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Yes, Venture hangers are interchangeable between baseplates. The lows use the same plates as the highs, the standard hangers can be used with light plates, etc.

Perfect thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 1121317 on November 25, 2020, 10:40:43 PM
What’s the difference between the hollows and lights?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 25, 2020, 10:52:42 PM
What’s the difference between the hollows and lights?

Lights - hollow kingpin, forged baseplate, roughly 340g on the 5.2
Hollow - hollow kingpin + axle, forged baseplate, roughly 325g on the 5.2
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 1121317 on November 26, 2020, 12:40:11 AM
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What’s the difference between the hollows and lights?
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Lights - hollow kingpin, forged baseplate, roughly 340g on the 5.2
Hollow - hollow kingpin + axle, forged baseplate, roughly 325g on the 5.2

Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on November 26, 2020, 11:32:44 AM
Do the stock clear purple bushings get better after a few sessions? Mine feel like knead. Bad return to center.

If I change bushings in my venture 6.1 high to bones hardcore medium, should I use the stockwashers or not?
I use bones bushings with the little flat washers they come with and I couldn't be happier. Alot of other people use them too. The return to center is great and the pinch is amazing. It also makes the turn better imo. It's worth a try.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 26, 2020, 12:38:43 PM


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https://youtu.be/z6f4XJLdwUI
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 26, 2020, 06:53:08 PM


(https://i.ibb.co/T40xxTN/PXL-20201126-203405200.jpg) (https://ibb.co/T40xxTN)

https://youtu.be/z6f4XJLdwUI

Baseplates on my Thunders are about to die, seriously considering buying 2 individual Thunders on the cheap to replace them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 26, 2020, 08:27:36 PM
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Baseplates on my Thunders are about to die, seriously considering buying 2 individual Thunders on the cheap to replace them.

A homie got a low and a high by accident so I copped his plates.

Very stoked. I got trucks for the next year for sure now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: NJFly318 on November 27, 2020, 07:46:08 AM
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Do the stock clear purple bushings get better after a few sessions? Mine feel like knead. Bad return to center.

If I change bushings in my venture 6.1 high to bones hardcore medium, should I use the stockwashers or not?
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like most bushings, i'd say one or two sessions should suffice to ride them in. maybe they are sturdier due to colder weather?
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I've noticed the same with mine. They seem to feel a little more lively after a few sessions, but they still aren't rebounding great. May try putting in some bones bushings next rainy day. Curious about others' experience.

I'm not a fan of the Bones bushings, the core always breaks away from the outside (I weigh about 190#'s) and they become way to mushy. I have two sets of Ventures, 5.8's and 6.2's, both have the Indy white supersoft bushings and they feel great with them. Running them stock besides the bushings, stock washers top and bottom.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on November 27, 2020, 01:13:05 PM
this made me curious. i might switch the bushings on my ventures out just to try the difference. i have some after market indy barrel bushings lying around, they should work, and probably be about 2a duro softer i guess than the purps in the ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lamfordie on November 27, 2020, 01:38:52 PM
Havent seen any shop carry the 5.8 v hollows yet
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 27, 2020, 05:06:38 PM
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Do the stock clear purple bushings get better after a few sessions? Mine feel like knead. Bad return to center.

If I change bushings in my venture 6.1 high to bones hardcore medium, should I use the stockwashers or not?
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like most bushings, i'd say one or two sessions should suffice to ride them in. maybe they are sturdier due to colder weather?
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I've noticed the same with mine. They seem to feel a little more lively after a few sessions, but they still aren't rebounding great. May try putting in some bones bushings next rainy day. Curious about others' experience.
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I'm not a fan of the Bones bushings, the core always breaks away from the outside (I weigh about 190#'s) and they become way to mushy. I have two sets of Ventures, 5.8's and 6.2's, both have the Indy white supersoft bushings and they feel great with them. Running them stock besides the bushings, stock washers top and bottom.

I was close to get a set from orchard for the winter. It would make me very happy to find something other than bones tops for frickin freezing temperatures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 27, 2020, 05:35:21 PM
I'd like to know about Ben Gore's set up.

I definitely think he's doing bushing swapping cutting or carrying them over from truck to truck.

I want to move like that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on November 27, 2020, 06:26:16 PM
I'd like to know about Ben Gore's set up.

I definitely think he's doing bushing swapping cutting or carrying them over from truck to truck.

I want to move like that.
I talked to him a couple weeks ago. He rides bones mediums on 5.6.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Level 60 Dwarf Rogue on November 27, 2020, 06:39:02 PM
5.8 hollows are going to be a thing again? I had some maybe 5 or 6 years ago when 5.8s were pretty new and they vanished only to be p-rod golden shits every few seasons. I don’t like light trucks but it’s good to have that option.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 27, 2020, 10:30:36 PM
Havent seen any shop carry the 5.8 v hollows yet

On a solid search, the only two shops that seem like they had the 5.8 hollow version had both sold out very quickly that I could see, so I am guessing there was only a limited supply to start with in the first round of production.

Anything DLX you can always ask them directly, top right "HIT US UP" on https://www.dlxsf.com/

What I did notice is a lot of places often don't list them correctly, but looking more at images for the red sticker helped to uncover a lot of places I didn't see from the initial search too.

(https://i.ibb.co/xL6C4hR/Venture-hollow-trucks-sticker.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xL6C4hR)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lloyd Braun on November 30, 2020, 07:03:49 PM
Looking like I'm a vhollow for life now?
Unless I can make my trucks like 5 full turns looser. That would be the balls.

I do not believe this is better. It's gotta be cheaper. That's usually why a industry wide gimmick happens.

Who needs an inverted kingpin on a Venture high?
 
Little kids who can't turn I hope. The only good truck they can skate with out me modding to death is ace.

I hope so frickin bad that normal kingpins are still around in 10 years.

I want inverted king pins...on ventures...Im a grown man and can turn really well.

Other than having to keep up with another tool, what are the downsides you see to them? They don't change anything about the truck just less room to hang up on smiths.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on December 05, 2020, 12:35:16 PM
Would my trusty ventures pair well with this ? I'm guessing no because of the long wheel base.

Wondering what truck would compliment best.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 05, 2020, 01:49:19 PM
Would my trusty ventures pair well with this ? I'm guessing no because of the long wheel base.

Wondering what truck would compliment best.
id love to know what youre talking about really
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on December 05, 2020, 01:58:29 PM
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Would my trusty ventures pair well with this ? I'm guessing no because of the long wheel base.

Wondering what truck would compliment best.
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id love to know what youre talking about really

Lol

Sorry......

8.625" at widest point x 32.25"
Nose 7.125"
Wheelbase 14.5"
Tail 6.5"

(https://i.ibb.co/DfQD9Cx/IMG-20201206-135243-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7tKJnWw)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 06, 2020, 03:04:30 PM
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Looking like I'm a vhollow for life now?
Unless I can make my trucks like 5 full turns looser. That would be the balls.

I do not believe this is better. It's gotta be cheaper. That's usually why a industry wide gimmick happens.

Who needs an inverted kingpin on a Venture high?
 
Little kids who can't turn I hope. The only good truck they can skate with out me modding to death is ace.

I hope so frickin bad that normal kingpins are still around in 10 years.
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I want inverted king pins...on ventures...Im a grown man and can turn really well.

Other than having to keep up with another tool, what are the downsides you see to them? They don't change anything about the truck just less room to hang up on smiths.

I just hope that regs raws are still available too. I definitely want the kids on awake but it's looking like they preference Ace.

That's fine it makes sense.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ballintoohard on December 06, 2020, 08:18:12 PM
Stop thinking about dimensions, put the trucks on, ride it, put other ones on, compare.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on December 07, 2020, 05:31:54 AM
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Would my trusty ventures pair well with this ? I'm guessing no because of the long wheel base.

Wondering what truck would compliment best.
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id love to know what youre talking about really
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Lol

Sorry......

8.625" at widest point x 32.25"
Nose 7.125"
Wheelbase 14.5"
Tail 6.5"

(https://i.ibb.co/DfQD9Cx/IMG-20201206-135243-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7tKJnWw)

I’ve been skating ventures on a deck with 14.5” wheelbase. It’s good. I am a gangly, long-legged bastard, though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lloyd Braun on December 07, 2020, 06:57:07 AM
Last year my go to shape was Isle’s 8.5 which has a 14.5 wb. Totally manageable
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lamfordie on December 07, 2020, 07:52:16 PM
Do the krux down lo kingpins fit in venture
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lloyd Braun on December 08, 2020, 12:33:38 PM
Do the krux down lo kingpins fit in venture

Yes, but you have to JB weld the nut in. Here’s a pic, I fucked it up the first time, but got it right this time. Only skated them twice but they feel good. Feel free to PM me if you want details on how to make them work.

(https://i.ibb.co/Gv4j26B/8-C7-D7-BCF-C251-4-A89-8-C43-77136-C28-EEE7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Gv4j26B)(https://i.ibb.co/hgKjNHb/E811107-A-FDA4-47-EB-BEEB-5-CCA1-DA9995-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hgKjNHb)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 08, 2020, 06:04:42 PM
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Looking like I'm a vhollow for life now?
Unless I can make my trucks like 5 full turns looser. That would be the balls.

I do not believe this is better. It's gotta be cheaper. That's usually why a industry wide gimmick happens.

Who needs an inverted kingpin on a Venture high?
 
Little kids who can't turn I hope. The only good truck they can skate with out me modding to death is ace.

I hope so frickin bad that normal kingpins are still around in 10 years.
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I want inverted king pins...on ventures...Im a grown man and can turn really well.

Other than having to keep up with another tool, what are the downsides you see to them? They don't change anything about the truck just less room to hang up on smiths.
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I just hope that regs raws are still available too. I definitely want the kids on awake but it's looking like they preference Ace.

That's fine it makes sense.

Thankfully there will always be "normal" or "regular kingpin" trucks on the market, no matter what weird and wonderful new things people come out with, same as decks being carbon, composite or whatever other thing people make them from, or cored / hollow wheels too.  People might try them but they always come back to the simple standard that has worked and has less issues overall.

The number one thing I have always done for kids with new trucks of any brand who cannot turn is cut the top bushing down a mm or two depending on the size / weight of the kid and that allows the truck to still do what it is supposed to at the same geometry with the nut being in the same place, just making them about two to four threads less, which is perfect for kids, no cost, easy solution.

I do know lots that swap the bushings straight out for Bones soft, but that is another story.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on December 09, 2020, 07:27:11 PM
What are obvious differences between the hi and low? I've never skated the hi. Lows were always great
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on December 10, 2020, 09:07:14 AM
What are obvious differences between the hi and low? I've never skated the hi. Lows were always great

Hi: Can be rode loose without wheelbite, hefty pop, bigger wheels are usable on these.

Someone else will have to comment on lows but i'd assume better pinch and quicker pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on December 10, 2020, 10:10:26 AM
What are obvious differences between the hi and low? I've never skated the hi. Lows were always great

Highs: shit ton of kingpin clearance, very difficult to wheelbite.
Lows: opposite but with better pop and somehow better looking.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on December 10, 2020, 01:12:32 PM
I was watching old Tim O'Connor stuff before bed last night. Seeing them Low 5.0's in action was a treat (same with Mariano in Mouse). Then was reading something where he said he now uses 5.25 Hi, which got me wondering. I can't explain why but I think 5.0 Lows look the absolute best (these and old Indys prior to stage 9)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 10, 2020, 02:01:50 PM
I was watching old Tim O'Connor stuff before bed last night. Seeing them Low 5.0's in action was a treat (same with Mariano in Mouse). Then was reading something where he said he now uses 5.25 Hi, which got me wondering. I can't explain why but I think 5.0 Lows look the absolute best (these and old Indys prior to stage 9)


True true
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on December 11, 2020, 07:07:03 PM
I've got a set of 5.0 lows, may set up. Need a 7.5 - 7.75 deck first. Wish brands made more of those
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on December 11, 2020, 07:30:56 PM
I've got a set of 5.0 lows, may set up. Need a 7.5 - 7.75 deck first. Wish brands made more of those

I feel like smaller sizes have made a solid resurgence production wise, things just get scooped up quick in our current state of the world obviously. Anything picky about woodshops?

Humidity has 7.75 Sour, AH, 7.8 DGK.
Labor has a Krooked 7.75.
Seasons has 7.75 Hopps, Palace, Politic.
https://seasonsskateshop.com/search?q=7.75

These are the first 3 random shops I searched, so they are for sure out there.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 14, 2020, 04:38:16 PM
anyone feel like they get better pop with the cast ventures vs the hollow/ti variants? some tricks might be easier to throw around due to the setup being lighter, but i feel like i lose pop and the board doesnt stick to my feet as well as with cast. is that just me or does any one else feel like they dont get the most yield with lighter variants?

struggling to figure out what to do with these v-hollow 5.6 and 5.2 lows at this point. probably put them up in the classifieds if theres some truth to my theories
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Acky Jacky on December 14, 2020, 05:28:11 PM
anyone feel like they get better pop with the cast ventures vs the hollow/ti variants? some tricks might be easier to throw around due to the setup being lighter, but i feel like i lose pop and the board doesnt stick to my feet as well as with cast. is that just me or does any one else feel like they dont get the most yield with lighter variants?

struggling to figure out what to do with these v-hollow 5.6 and 5.2 lows at this point. probably put them up in the classifieds if theres some truth to my theories

I can’t speak to Ventures specifically but one time I got Thunder hollows after skating Team Thunders and had a similar experience. To a certain degree I think the weight of the truck is your friend, it helps balance things out. Or it could just take getting used to.
Now, I am interested in trying hollow or light trucks on a bigger board (like an 8.5) but right now I have regular old 5.6’s on an 8.3” and it feels sweet. I actually am down to the axle on my front truck, I’ve never hit axle before but I guess venture grinds down easier than Indy.

TLDR, yeah probably something to your theory
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ballintoohard on December 14, 2020, 05:59:56 PM
Well the hollow lights have a longer wheelbase, so it likely is pushing your wheels too far out to what you are used to. For me it's pretty stark. Venture cast on a 14.125 is same as Indy on 14.25 and the furthest out I can go before my pop goes to shit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 14, 2020, 06:05:53 PM
Well the hollow lights have a longer wheelbase, so it likely is pushing your wheels too far out to what you are used to. For me it's pretty stark. Venture cast on a 14.125 is same as Indy on 14.25 and the furthest out I can go before my pop goes to shit.
running cast plates so that wasnt a factor for me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on December 14, 2020, 06:33:20 PM
anyone feel like they get better pop with the cast ventures vs the hollow/ti variants? some tricks might be easier to throw around due to the setup being lighter, but i feel like i lose pop and the board doesnt stick to my feet as well as with cast. is that just me or does any one else feel like they dont get the most yield with lighter variants?

struggling to figure out what to do with these v-hollow 5.6 and 5.2 lows at this point. probably put them up in the classifieds if theres some truth to my theories

I guess some people find more heft easier to control, but the difference should be p small
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 90sDamiano on December 14, 2020, 07:00:32 PM
Shout out to all y’all venture sk8rs out there!  I’m using 5.2 highs with bones soft bushings. Feeling nice and stable but really good response and an awesome snap back to center.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ballintoohard on December 14, 2020, 08:02:32 PM
In Ben Degros’ 5.6 hollow review is he using the forged plate version? I can’t tell, but I haven’t seen a version online with cast plates and a hollow axle. Also can’t see how that would make them so awesome but him hate normal fast 5.6
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on December 15, 2020, 05:22:20 AM
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Well the hollow lights have a longer wheelbase, so it likely is pushing your wheels too far out to what you are used to. For me it's pretty stark. Venture cast on a 14.125 is same as Indy on 14.25 and the furthest out I can go before my pop goes to shit.
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running cast plates so that wasnt a factor for me

Titanium sounds good on paper but Thunder and Ventures don't benefit as much from the weight reduction as Indy's, 320-340g is my ideal truck weight, anything below 300g and the board is uncontrollable.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: The.Tran.Man on December 15, 2020, 07:48:38 AM
In Ben Degros’ 5.6 hollow review is he using the forged plate version? I can’t tell, but I haven’t seen a version online with cast plates and a hollow axle. Also can’t see how that would make them so awesome but him hate normal fast 5.6

Those trucks have a forged baseplate (he says it at 20 seconds in the review video). Venture doesn't sell any "light" models on cast plates like how Thunder does with the Team Hollows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on December 15, 2020, 09:24:12 AM
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Well the hollow lights have a longer wheelbase, so it likely is pushing your wheels too far out to what you are used to. For me it's pretty stark. Venture cast on a 14.125 is same as Indy on 14.25 and the furthest out I can go before my pop goes to shit.
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running cast plates so that wasnt a factor for me
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Titanium sounds good on paper but Thunder and Ventures don't benefit as much from the weight reduction as Indy's, 320-340g is my ideal truck weight, anything below 300g and the board is uncontrollable.

@rocklobster I was looking into some titanium indy 139s. Do you think the reduced weight makes them a worthwhile purchase?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on December 15, 2020, 01:27:20 PM
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Well the hollow lights have a longer wheelbase, so it likely is pushing your wheels too far out to what you are used to. For me it's pretty stark. Venture cast on a 14.125 is same as Indy on 14.25 and the furthest out I can go before my pop goes to shit.
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running cast plates so that wasnt a factor for me
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Titanium sounds good on paper but Thunder and Ventures don't benefit as much from the weight reduction as Indy's, 320-340g is my ideal truck weight, anything below 300g and the board is uncontrollable.

Yeah thats definitely true. In 5.8 (8.5) truck territory I think the difference can be worthwhile though. Though grinding your trucks down makes just as much of a difference. I'm currently skating some v-lights (forged plate, solid hanger) and they're grinded down such that they're noticeably lighter than some new titaniums I have on ice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on December 16, 2020, 02:30:59 AM
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Well the hollow lights have a longer wheelbase, so it likely is pushing your wheels too far out to what you are used to. For me it's pretty stark. Venture cast on a 14.125 is same as Indy on 14.25 and the furthest out I can go before my pop goes to shit.
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running cast plates so that wasnt a factor for me
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Titanium sounds good on paper but Thunder and Ventures don't benefit as much from the weight reduction as Indy's, 320-340g is my ideal truck weight, anything below 300g and the board is uncontrollable.
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@rocklobster I was looking into some titanium indy 139s. Do you think the reduced weight makes them a worthwhile purchase?

For Indys yes, the standard 139 starts off at a hefty 377g, Indy Hollow drops you down to 334g and Titanium Forged drop you to 323g. Indys also have a light pop feel because they don't shift the WB out as much. I'm not a fan of Indys so I can't comment as much but I'll take any weight reduction on Indys any day.

Ben Degros likes heavy trucks and in his videos he mentions Indy Standard being his go to truck, despite owning the Titanium variant. An
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on December 17, 2020, 12:42:52 PM
does anyone know the weight on a Ti pair of 8.5s?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on December 17, 2020, 01:08:02 PM
does anyone know the weight on a Ti pair of 8.5s?

320 something I believe
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 17, 2020, 01:13:38 PM
i have a pair of 5.6 and 5.2 both hollow and barely grinded. dm for pictures if interested, will post up in the classifieds soon

*have stock red and purp bushings unskated*
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 17, 2020, 02:14:18 PM
i have a pair of 5.6 and 5.2 both hollow and barely grinded. dm for pictures if interested, will post up in the classifieds soon

*have stock red and purp bushings unskated*


Damn I thought 5.6 was your shit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 17, 2020, 04:42:02 PM
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i have a pair of 5.6 and 5.2 both hollow and barely grinded. dm for pictures if interested, will post up in the classifieds soon

*have stock red and purp bushings unskated*
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Damn I thought 5.6 was your shit
keeping the raws.

concluded theres no point in pairing light trucks with my normal size deck and wheels, my legs prefer a little more resistance.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lovermangenius on December 18, 2020, 06:34:27 PM
Skates 5.6 hollows for the first time today. The pop felt really nice after a few months on indy 149 mids. I slipped out on flat twice which never happens to me, but I really can't think of a reason why that would be because of a change in the trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ballintoohard on December 19, 2020, 12:16:36 PM
Today I just grabbed a random setup, which has my 1 month old 5.6 on it. Never tightened or adjuted them, noticed i had cracked both bottom bushings, the front one in several places. It sucks because this setup feels close to great.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bob Loblaw on December 19, 2020, 01:16:59 PM
Today I just grabbed a random setup, which has my 1 month old 5.6 on it. Never tightened or adjuted them, noticed i had cracked both bottom bushings, the front one in several places. It sucks because this setup feels close to great.
Damn. I like the stock bushings but they're hit or miss
I have a mellow Sour with 5.6s. Its a good combo, especially with washers on the ventures for the loose feel
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 20, 2020, 03:19:01 PM
Bushings have been rough on all truck brands but ace for a bit it seems.

I been collecting good ones like crazy jic

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BL0B on December 20, 2020, 04:22:09 PM
i put ACE lows in some 6.1's with bones flat washers on top and they look like they will be great.


havent set them up on a board yet though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on December 21, 2020, 11:09:47 AM
Bushings have been rough on all truck brands but ace for a bit it seems.

I been collecting good ones like crazy jic

Yeah the bushing quality on most trucks aside from ace is disappointing, I'm running ace low bushings on my thunders and ventures right now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ballintoohard on December 21, 2020, 11:20:12 AM
I didn't notice much with broken in Ace in my 5.6. I kinda think you shouldn't have to Frankentruck a truck to get them to work as you want for the most part.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 21, 2020, 12:55:06 PM
Agree that having to mess with bushings and such a bunch to make a truck work is bogus. That being said, I don’t mind when bushings start to rip and crumble as I’ve always seen it happen, sooner or later, as the trucks are usually getting broken in. With ACE I’m down to let them firm up before I adjust them. With Venture I prefer a flat top washer, although bones bushing do work really well, I am fine with the stock bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ballintoohard on December 21, 2020, 01:10:57 PM
Even with the stock top washers I do get a little groove, but it never seems to impact truck function, bend the washer, or fux up the bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: keepthefunkalive on December 21, 2020, 02:56:42 PM
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For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.
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(http://media.giphy.com/media/DpXqHdILXRRDi/giphy.gif)
up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, Start and nobody gets hurt
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on December 24, 2020, 03:34:30 AM
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For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.
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(http://media.giphy.com/media/DpXqHdILXRRDi/giphy.gif)
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up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, Start and nobody gets hurt
found a pic of contra stealing the truck

(https://videochums.com/article/my-grueling-battle-with-contra-iii-the-alien-wars-1.jpg)

no idea what brand this is though, maybe suzuki.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on December 26, 2020, 02:46:03 AM
Any risers that people would recomend with Ventures? Trying to start running bigger wheels and cant really go look at them live at the shop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 26, 2020, 05:46:27 AM
Any risers that people would recomend with Ventures? Trying to start running bigger wheels and cant really go look at them live at the shop.

They are the standard hole pattern, same as Indy so anything with longer oval shaped holes or the classic 4 or 6 hole, (so almost anything would fit), or you could get adventurous and make your own.

If you just need a single mm or so, then you can easily make them out of almost anything, and they will still fit under the trucks with normal 1" deck bolts, but if you go taller than 1/8" risers, then you will need to get longer deck bolts too.  Unless you are riding big wheels, or have really loose trucks, you can get away with 1/8" for almost everything including up to almost 60mm wheels for medium to tight trucks, but there are other factors at play there too.

What size wheels are you on now and what are you looking at going up to?

Do you get wheelbite now / how loose or tight are your trucks?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on December 26, 2020, 06:31:42 AM
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Any risers that people would recomend with Ventures? Trying to start running bigger wheels and cant really go look at them live at the shop.
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They are the standard hole pattern, same as Indy so anything with longer oval shaped holes or the classic 4 or 6 hole, (so almost anything would fit), or you could get adventurous and make your own.

If you just need a single mm or so, then you can easily make them out of almost anything, and they will still fit under the trucks with normal 1" deck bolts, but if you go taller than 1/8" risers, then you will need to get longer deck bolts too.  Unless you are riding big wheels, or have really loose trucks, you can get away with 1/8" for almost everything including up to almost 60mm wheels for medium to tight trucks, but there are other factors at play there too.

What size wheels are you on now and what are you looking at going up to?

Do you get wheelbite now / how loose or tight are your trucks?
Ok, that's great because noticed that locals dont have other than maybe two different risers on stock.

I was on 56mm conicals and could run them without any problems. Kinda wanna try 60mm classics now and was going to put 1/8" riser with them. My trucks are pretty much medium tightness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 26, 2020, 06:48:31 AM
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Any risers that people would recomend with Ventures? Trying to start running bigger wheels and cant really go look at them live at the shop.
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They are the standard hole pattern, same as Indy so anything with longer oval shaped holes or the classic 4 or 6 hole, (so almost anything would fit), or you could get adventurous and make your own.

If you just need a single mm or so, then you can easily make them out of almost anything, and they will still fit under the trucks with normal 1" deck bolts, but if you go taller than 1/8" risers, then you will need to get longer deck bolts too.  Unless you are riding big wheels, or have really loose trucks, you can get away with 1/8" for almost everything including up to almost 60mm wheels for medium to tight trucks, but there are other factors at play there too.

What size wheels are you on now and what are you looking at going up to?

Do you get wheelbite now / how loose or tight are your trucks?
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Ok, that's great because noticed that locals dont have other than maybe two different risers on stock.

I was on 56mm conicals and could run them without any problems. Kinda wanna try 60mm classics now and was going to put 1/8" riser with them. My trucks are pretty much medium tightness.

That would easily work.

Doing the figures, if the wheels you are going from and to are only about 2mm in height difference (56 to 60 is 2mm from the axle, not the diameter which is 4mm in total) then you only really need 2mm risers to make things feel much the same, so 1/8" would be plenty of extra height.  You could try something thinner under the trucks just to see if it makes a difference, eg sit the trucks on a shoe box and trace the baseplate, then cut out a couple of rectangles for each truck just to try it first if you had the time, or just see what the shop has and go from there.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on December 26, 2020, 10:43:53 AM
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Any risers that people would recomend with Ventures? Trying to start running bigger wheels and cant really go look at them live at the shop.
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They are the standard hole pattern, same as Indy so anything with longer oval shaped holes or the classic 4 or 6 hole, (so almost anything would fit), or you could get adventurous and make your own.

If you just need a single mm or so, then you can easily make them out of almost anything, and they will still fit under the trucks with normal 1" deck bolts, but if you go taller than 1/8" risers, then you will need to get longer deck bolts too.  Unless you are riding big wheels, or have really loose trucks, you can get away with 1/8" for almost everything including up to almost 60mm wheels for medium to tight trucks, but there are other factors at play there too.

What size wheels are you on now and what are you looking at going up to?

Do you get wheelbite now / how loose or tight are your trucks?
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Ok, that's great because noticed that locals dont have other than maybe two different risers on stock.

I was on 56mm conicals and could run them without any problems. Kinda wanna try 60mm classics now and was going to put 1/8" riser with them. My trucks are pretty much medium tightness.
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That would easily work.

Doing the figures, if the wheels you are going from and to are only about 2mm in height difference (56 to 60 is 2mm from the axle, not the diameter which is 4mm in total) then you only really need 2mm risers to make things feel much the same, so 1/8" would be plenty of extra height.  You could try something thinner under the trucks just to see if it makes a difference, eg sit the trucks on a shoe box and trace the baseplate, then cut out a couple of rectangles for each truck just to try it first if you had the time, or just see what the shop has and go from there.
Thanks for the tips, ordered some Thunder 1/8” risers and 60mm classics. Gonna report back here how i like the combination when i get to skate them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 28, 2020, 01:13:22 PM
indy 78a bushings for my 6.1s with flat top and bottom washers

closest way to replicate my rattly loose 5.6s with shaved ace bottoms/bones hard tops/flat washers. tried to swap everything over forgetting that bigger trucks wheelbite easily and you can imagine how that went.

gonna take the day to break them in with cruising and slappys, my achilles is a little tweaked from yesterdays session. stretching beforehand and taking it easy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on January 03, 2021, 09:18:05 PM
I think I’m finally gonna bite the bullet and try some lighter trucks and I’m definitely interested in venture. I like loose trucks and I’m coming from Indy and ace haven’t ridden ventures since I was a kid. I ride usually dlx 8.5 so I’m curious if 5.6 or 5.8 would be a good fit for me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on January 03, 2021, 09:28:52 PM
I think I’m finally gonna bite the bullet and try some lighter trucks and I’m definitely interested in venture. I like loose trucks and I’m coming from Indy and ace haven’t ridden ventures since I was a kid. I ride usually dlx 8.5 so I’m curious if 5.6 or 5.8 would be a good fit for me

5.8
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 19, 2021, 12:59:14 PM
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I think I’m finally gonna bite the bullet and try some lighter trucks and I’m definitely interested in venture. I like loose trucks and I’m coming from Indy and ace haven’t ridden ventures since I was a kid. I ride usually dlx 8.5 so I’m curious if 5.6 or 5.8 would be a good fit for me
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5.8

I like loose trucks too.

The Venture is going to feel tight no matter what at first.

You should probably order some clear bait and tackle to go with them. Or some bones soft. Just till you get used to a vertical king pin.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ok boomer on January 19, 2021, 01:03:37 PM
Because it is any day of the week, I again, am pondering a 7.5 with Venture Low 5.0's. Thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: topfrog10 on January 19, 2021, 01:18:12 PM
has anyone had the issue of their tool not really fitting on the tail-end bolts on their trucks? I got Venture V-Lights 5.8 a couple weeks ago and both my silver tool and a top covering bolt wrench were really hard to get on and off of those bolts when setting the trucks up on my board.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on January 19, 2021, 01:20:57 PM
just put some 52mm f4 OG Classics on my 5.2 lows. pretty fat wheel, anyone ride lows with risers?

also skating in 24 degree weather makes your bushings freeze up pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Firebert on January 19, 2021, 01:23:04 PM
has anyone had the issue of their tool not really fitting on the tail-end bolts on their trucks? I got Venture V-Lights 5.8 a couple weeks ago and both my silver tool and a top covering bolt wrench were really hard to get on and off of those bolts when setting the trucks up on my board.
If you have the silver tool, unscrew the plastic part on the socket - it was made for this!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on January 19, 2021, 01:50:05 PM
just put some 52mm f4 OG Classics on my 5.2 lows. pretty fat wheel, anyone ride lows with risers?

also skating in 24 degree weather makes your bushings freeze up pretty quickly.

From like 2004-2007 I skated my venture lows with 1/8" risers (still with 49-51mm wheels though). I liked it, it made the turn better and I felt like it gave me more pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 19, 2021, 01:52:32 PM
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just put some 52mm f4 OG Classics on my 5.2 lows. pretty fat wheel, anyone ride lows with risers?

also skating in 24 degree weather makes your bushings freeze up pretty quickly.
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From like 2004-2007 I skated my venture lows with 1/8" risers (still with 49-51mm wheels though). I liked it, it made the turn better and I felt like it gave me more pop.


This is a go! Especially for the forged lo’s. I’ve got the wooden risers, dunno how long they’ll last, but for now they feel real decent
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 19, 2021, 09:48:04 PM
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I think I’m finally gonna bite the bullet and try some lighter trucks and I’m definitely interested in venture. I like loose trucks and I’m coming from Indy and ace haven’t ridden ventures since I was a kid. I ride usually dlx 8.5 so I’m curious if 5.6 or 5.8 would be a good fit for me
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5.8

This is the right answer. Stock Venture bushings take a long time to break in, swap out to Bones Medium if you like medium-loose trucks with some wiggle.

Given the increase trucks size consider the V-Lights or V-hollow if you can afford it. Ventures (especially forged ones) push the WB out the most, resulting in a heavier pop feel, so they benefit a fair bit from reduced weight.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on January 21, 2021, 01:42:27 AM
I've only ever skated ventures with forged plates, never had a problem with them. But have been considering buying some cast plates to put on my current set of tis so to see what its like. Is there more baseplate contact on slides as opposed to the wheels possibly touching due to the shorter wb?

I know they're going to make the board a bit higher, a slightly shorter wheelbase and a bit heavier.... but has anyone actually tried both forged and cast and found a noticeable real world difference either good or bad.

I usually skate boards 32 in length give or take a little bit, usually about 14.25 wb, sometimes up to 14.38 and sometimes down to 14.125 if that makes much of a difference.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on January 21, 2021, 07:33:54 AM
i skated ti's with a cast plate for about 4 months, switched over to forged about 2 months ago.  granted i havent been skating as much but i had a hard time noticing a difference.  if anything i felt slightly more stable with the forgeds.  also, my skill level is also nothing to brag about haha
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on January 21, 2021, 10:23:15 AM
Thanks, well, if nobody else has anything glowing to say about the cast plates sounds like I'm sticking with my current setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 21, 2021, 10:48:04 AM
Purely speaking from personal experience with swapping from forged to cast plates and I can say it was not worth the effort. On my last 2 boards I tried:
1) 5.2 / 5.6 V-Hollow w/ Cast Baseplate
2) 5.2 / 5.6 V-Hollow w/ Forged Baseplate

Did this to try to get the perfect wheelbase combination. #1 always felt more natural, I think it's the combination of height, weight and how much the wheelbase shift with each baseplate that performs best as is. I thought the additional weight or height would help but it never felt quite as right as the stock combination and would swap back to mid-session. Worth experimenting if you have a set with cast baseplates lying around, but performance improvements (if any) were negligible. Didn't find the slide better or worse.

I struggle to find the perfect setup for Ventures (deck steepness / length / wheelbase, truck baseplates) that I find myself sticking to Thunder more often these days. Sliding on wheels doesn't impact me as much, pinch loses to Ventures slightly, but make up for it by being incredibly nimble and turn-y.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on January 21, 2021, 11:07:50 AM
I see. I probably won't bother then. There's nothing really wrong with my trucks per say, just a few subpar sessions makes me wanna blame my trucks or board or whatever and switch something up lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ballintoohard on January 21, 2021, 12:18:05 PM
I'm all too familiar with that feeling and will advise against switching, even tho I end up always doing so myself.  A plate switch is pretty minor tho, just keep it 1 variable at a time and give it a few days.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: No comply on February 04, 2021, 04:56:53 PM
Does anybody know if the 6.1s come in Hollows? I’ve seen Lights but not Hollows.

Also, is there much difference in the depth of the hole in the bottom of the forged plates vs. cast? Trying to figure out if I could do the JB Weld treatment for the inverted kingpin.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on February 04, 2021, 06:19:37 PM
Does anybody know if the 6.1s come in Hollows? I’ve seen Lights but not Hollows.

Also, is there much difference in the depth of the hole in the bottom of the forged plates vs. cast? Trying to figure out if I could do the JB Weld treatment for the inverted kingpin.
Only in our dreams bud, they would amazing.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 05, 2021, 01:55:43 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/vVRXhgh/PXL-20210205-214502961.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vVRXhgh)

Turny. Quick flat and hill bomb outside. It's snowy and wet so it will be a few days till I can ledge them.

I think this was a really good idea. Indy replacement parts super soft.

When the weather warms I'm putting them in the kids boards so they can get off the generic trucks. This will not work in warm weather for ne

I would recommend clear bait and tackle for exact fit but this is pretty nice for a
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on February 05, 2021, 02:01:45 PM
Does anybody know if the 6.1s come in Hollows? I’ve seen Lights but not Hollows.

Also, is there much difference in the depth of the hole in the bottom of the forged plates vs. cast? Trying to figure out if I could do the JB Weld treatment for the inverted kingpin.

I think the 6.1’s are getting a hollow soon, sure I saw it on the Instagram....

Love to try the inverted if I could find those damn krux downlows anywhere anymore....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MisterSpaceman on February 05, 2021, 02:58:14 PM
Because it is any day of the week, I again, am pondering a 7.5 with Venture Low 5.0's. Thanks

My buddy just gave me some purple 5.0 lows he had laying around, circa mid 2000’s. Contemplating which 7.5 deck to get to make this period correct piece.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CaderSk8r on February 05, 2021, 05:24:34 PM
I’d wait till that orange real true mid deck comes out.
Looks sick!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MisterSpaceman on February 06, 2021, 08:51:14 AM
I impulse bought some 5.2 cast lows last night at the local and put them on an Almost 8.0/14wb I had used for a couple weeks then stored up. Set up on some 49mm wheels. After riding Indys for so long these low stable trucks feel very “cozy” and kickflips feel super easy.  I definitely wasn’t crazy about this Almost on my 139s but it’s significantly better on the Ventures imo. It’s crazy what a few mm in either direction will do to the feel of a set of trucks.
ALSO these really don’t turn nearly as bad as I thought I remembered (last set I owned were feather lights way back when). Maybe I was prepared for much worse.
Stock tightness. More than good enough for street/tech.
I do feel like my muscle memory needs to be retuned for manuals.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on February 06, 2021, 09:27:36 AM
I have a pair of 5.2 high v-lights I’ve skated once. there are only a few small grind marks on the trucks.so practically still new. I set them up on a board yesterday and tried to put Indy super soft bushings in them. When I went to go take one of the kingpin nuts off, I could feel the nut stripping my kingpin. Now the nut is stuck, and no matter what I do it won’t turn to come off. Is DLX good with the customer service? You think they will replace them? I’ve heard good things on here about them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on February 06, 2021, 12:02:23 PM
I have a pair of 5.2 high v-lights I’ve skated once. there are only a few small grind marks on the trucks.so practically still new. I set them up on a board yesterday and tried to put Indy super soft bushings in them. When I went to go take one of the kingpin nuts off, I could feel the nut stripping my kingpin. Now the nut is stuck, and no matter what I do it won’t turn to come off. Is DLX good with the customer service? You think they will replace them? I’ve heard good things on here about them.
yes contact them and explain what happened with details & pictures. They will get you straight
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on February 06, 2021, 06:59:38 PM
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I have a pair of 5.2 high v-lights I’ve skated once. there are only a few small grind marks on the trucks.so practically still new. I set them up on a board yesterday and tried to put Indy super soft bushings in them. When I went to go take one of the kingpin nuts off, I could feel the nut stripping my kingpin. Now the nut is stuck, and no matter what I do it won’t turn to come off. Is DLX good with the customer service? You think they will replace them? I’ve heard good things on here about them.
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yes contact them and explain what happened with details & pictures. They will get you straight

thanks bruv, appreciate that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 08, 2021, 06:34:39 AM
Anyone try Venture 5.8 on 8.25 boards? Got a pair of Venture 5.8 Titanium I would like to revisit, on the recent Nine Club episode Mason Silva talked about riding 149 truck on 8.25 boards.

I would like the extra hanger real estate but the heft of 5.8 trucks worries me, even for the Titanium versions.

Edit: Included Mason Silva's name
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on February 08, 2021, 07:07:11 AM
Anyone try Venture 5.8 on 8.25 boards? Got a pair of Venture 5.8 Titanium I would like to revisit, on the recent Nine Club episode he talked about riding 149 truck on 8.25 boards.

I would like the extra hanger real estate but the heft of 5.8 trucks worries me, even for the Titanium versions.
I have a few times and they were fine for fliptricks, but with the titanium I bet it will be way better. I like the way 5.8s turn alot better than 5.6s. I've actually wishing I hadn't sold mine the last few days tbh
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: NJFly318 on February 08, 2021, 07:18:46 AM
Anyone try Venture 5.8 on 8.25 boards? Got a pair of Venture 5.8 Titanium I would like to revisit, on the recent Nine Club episode he talked about riding 149 truck on 8.25 boards.

I would like the extra hanger real estate but the heft of 5.8 trucks worries me, even for the Titanium versions.

I've ridden 5.8's on a 8.38" which was fine and I currently ride a 8.5" deck with Venture 6.1s, so same 1/4" difference and this is a great setup, no wheel overhang, but it doesn't flip that well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lloyd Braun on February 08, 2021, 07:44:21 AM
Anyone try Venture 5.8 on 8.25 boards? Got a pair of Venture 5.8 Titanium I would like to revisit, on the recent Nine Club episode he talked about riding 149 truck on 8.25 boards.

I would like the extra hanger real estate but the heft of 5.8 trucks worries me, even for the Titanium versions.

I skate 5.8 but never on 8.25. If you got them give them a shot, I really like them but I ride 8.5. I used to ride thunder 151s on 8.5 same 1/4 difference and I never had any issues.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 08, 2021, 09:34:58 AM
Anyone try Venture 5.8 on 8.25 boards? Got a pair of Venture 5.8 Titanium I would like to revisit, on the recent Nine Club episode he talked about riding 149 truck on 8.25 boards.

I would like the extra hanger real estate but the heft of 5.8 trucks worries me, even for the Titanium versions.

This is all I skate, and 8.38. Never had a problem with it though I've been tempted to try 5.6, but haven't yet.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 08, 2021, 10:09:36 AM
Never skated 5.8 on 8.25 but I used to skate Indy 149s on 8.25s and they were fine. As long as the length to wheelbase ratio isn’t all crazy they shouldn’t feel too hefty.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lamfordie on February 08, 2021, 10:14:48 AM
Anyone try Venture 5.8 on 8.25 boards? Got a pair of Venture 5.8 Titanium I would like to revisit, on the recent Nine Club episode he talked about riding 149 truck on 8.25 boards.

I would like the extra hanger real estate but the heft of 5.8 trucks worries me, even for the Titanium versions.
Ive skated 5-8 on 8.25 board for like the past 2 years. Absolutely love it. Sure the hanger pops out the side a bit but I dont care.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on February 08, 2021, 05:33:44 PM
Anyone try Venture 5.8 on 8.25 boards? Got a pair of Venture 5.8 Titanium I would like to revisit, on the recent Nine Club episode he talked about riding 149 truck on 8.25 boards.

I would like the extra hanger real estate but the heft of 5.8 trucks worries me, even for the Titanium versions.
I was running that last summer with regular cast 5.8s. it was fun, though if I only did 8.25s I'd of got 5.6s instead but I like to switch it up. felt like I could 50-50 anything running that setup, I was locking in on round bars with conical fulls which isn't my thing.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: passtheish on February 09, 2021, 11:34:05 PM
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Does anybody know if the 6.1s come in Hollows? I’ve seen Lights but not Hollows.

Also, is there much difference in the depth of the hole in the bottom of the forged plates vs. cast? Trying to figure out if I could do the JB Weld treatment for the inverted kingpin.
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I think the 6.1’s are getting a hollow soon, sure I saw it on the Instagram....

Love to try the inverted if I could find those damn krux downlows anywhere anymore....

They just showed up on Tactics

https://www.tactics.com/venture/v-hollow-lights-skateboard-trucks/all-polished-61-hi (https://www.tactics.com/venture/v-hollow-lights-skateboard-trucks/all-polished-61-hi)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 09, 2021, 11:53:24 PM
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Does anybody know if the 6.1s come in Hollows? I’ve seen Lights but not Hollows.

Also, is there much difference in the depth of the hole in the bottom of the forged plates vs. cast? Trying to figure out if I could do the JB Weld treatment for the inverted kingpin.
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I think the 6.1’s are getting a hollow soon, sure I saw it on the Instagram....

Love to try the inverted if I could find those damn krux downlows anywhere anymore....
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They just showed up on Tactics

https://www.tactics.com/venture/v-hollow-lights-skateboard-trucks/all-polished-61-hi (https://www.tactics.com/venture/v-hollow-lights-skateboard-trucks/all-polished-61-hi)
my wallet is crying dog stop
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on February 10, 2021, 04:11:57 PM
I was having a decent enough time breaking in some 144 hollows but I tinkered and made a drastic change for no reason.

(https://i.imgur.com/lT4voUu.jpg)

Took old bushings from my 55s and put them on 5.8s with just a flat bones top. Feels crazy in the best way. A good, deep turn and I have that nice little wobble that I miss. We’ll see how long the bushings hold up, it will be fun while it lasts.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: UncleRandy69 on February 10, 2021, 06:05:03 PM
I rock 5.6 with an ace bottom bushing as my top bushing and a bones medium top bushing as my bottom bushing only with a top washer. The wobble with venture stability is super comfy to me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 10, 2021, 06:39:32 PM
 Never had cast plates on ventures before, only forged. But just put cast plates on my 5.8 titaniums. I like it, skating an 8.25 32 14.25 bbs deck on it. Slightly easier to slip out on some tricks but the pop feels a little more natural, a few of my basic flatground tricks feel a bit more natural but harder flip tricks are still taking some adjusting.

Don't like the extra height, but its largely negligible. The metal is definitely softer and wears down a bit quicker from slides it seems, could possibly end up hitting pivot cup on them. Not fully used to it yet, and I certainly wouldn't be down to skate them on anything shorter than 14.25, but I think I prefer it marginally on this board and it will probably make a slightly longer wb like 14.38 manageable.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 10, 2021, 06:50:03 PM
Fresh setup this weekend but I'm not sure if I'm ready to love Venture again. Thunder has been so good to me, but the pull of Ventures is ever present. When it's bad, it's horrible. But when it's good, it's heaven.

Fuck it 5.6 V-Hollow is where it's at.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on February 10, 2021, 07:25:59 PM
Fresh setup this weekend but I'm not sure if I'm ready to love Venture again. Thunder has been so good to me, but the pull of Ventures is ever present. When it's bad, it's horrible. But when it's good, it's heaven.

Fuck it 5.6 V-Hollow is where it's at.

What deck do you have the 5.6 v-hollows on? Just threw mine on an 8.18 fa/hockey with a 14 WB but haven’t ridden it yet. Had them on a quasi proto before but want to try with short WB
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 10, 2021, 07:38:15 PM
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Fresh setup this weekend but I'm not sure if I'm ready to love Venture again. Thunder has been so good to me, but the pull of Ventures is ever present. When it's bad, it's horrible. But when it's good, it's heaven.

Fuck it 5.6 V-Hollow is where it's at.
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What deck do you have the 5.6 v-hollows on? Just threw mine on an 8.18 fa/hockey with a 14 WB but haven’t ridden it yet. Had them on a quasi proto before but want to try with short WB

I'm feeling like a Seasons shop deck, preference for 32"-ish decks with a short wheelbase like 14-14.125"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: AngryBlackMan on February 14, 2021, 05:14:39 AM
Back on the venture train... I don’t know why I want to skate these so bad.

6.1s on an 8.5 Fancy Lad deck with a 14.25wb.  I had them on my Girl G053 shape for a day and it was awful.  I couldn’t gotten used to it but I was t feeling it.

Skated them stock for a week (having lost weight being able to ride trucks stock has put my madness into overdrive with trying trucks out all over agin) and they were fine, not as deep of a turn as the aces I was on but that’s to be expected. 

Then I put some thunder 97a bushings in with flat washers top and bottom... now these things have kicked in.  I imagine this is the way they feel with bones.  Pretty surfy, but still stable.  The turn isn’t super deep but it’s smooth and it’s quicker than with a barrel bushing.

I’ve been skating them with 52mm F4 tablets but today I’m gonna try with some risers with 56mm F4 classics.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 14, 2021, 06:46:35 AM
Back on the venture train... I don’t know why I want to skate these so bad.

6.1s on an 8.5 Fancy Lad deck with a 14.25wb.  I had them on my Girl G053 shape for a day and it was awful.  I couldn’t gotten used to it but I was t feeling it.

Skated them stock for a week (having lost weight being able to ride trucks stock has put my madness into overdrive with trying trucks out all over agin) and they were fine, not as deep of a turn as the aces I was on but that’s to be expected. 

Then I put some thunder 97a bushings in with flat washers top and bottom... now these things have kicked in.  I imagine this is the way they feel with bones.  Pretty surfy, but still stable.  The turn isn’t super deep but it’s smooth and it’s quicker than with a barrel bushing.

I’ve been skating them with 52mm F4 tablets but today I’m gonna try with some risers with 56mm F4 classics.
ha damn! I thought you were going to 159’s for a bit. 97a do feel good - they seem to break in well too. Haven’t gotten enough time with my 94a but hoping it’s the same. Hopes that turn compared to 151s? Neither are deep but you think more stability?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on February 14, 2021, 06:49:51 AM
Not sure if anyone cares but I threw my 5.6 hollows on an 8.18 FA that has a 14 WB and it feels incredible. Most comfortable I’ve felt on a board, ton of pop and stability but still easy to flick. Other setup is indy on quasi 8.25 at moment, think venture hollow paired with 14 WB to offset the 3.4 inch WB extension may be my sweetspot setup
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 14, 2021, 06:53:34 AM
Not sure if anyone cares but I threw my 5.6 hollows on an 8.18 FA that has a 14 WB and it feels incredible. Most comfortable I’ve felt on a board, ton of pop and stability but still easy to flick. Other setup is indy on quasi 8.25 at moment, think venture hollow paired with 14 WB to offset the 3.4 inch WB extension may be my sweetspot setup
of course we care. How are the fingers of flat on each of those? Wonder if that accounts for anything w each
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on February 14, 2021, 07:33:45 AM
Back on the venture train... I don’t know why I want to skate these so bad.

6.1s on an 8.5 Fancy Lad deck with a 14.25wb.  I had them on my Girl G053 shape for a day and it was awful.  I couldn’t gotten used to it but I was t feeling it.

Skated them stock for a week (having lost weight being able to ride trucks stock has put my madness into overdrive with trying trucks out all over agin) and they were fine, not as deep of a turn as the aces I was on but that’s to be expected. 

Then I put some thunder 97a bushings in with flat washers top and bottom... now these things have kicked in.  I imagine this is the way they feel with bones.  Pretty surfy, but still stable.  The turn isn’t super deep but it’s smooth and it’s quicker than with a barrel bushing.

I’ve been skating them with 52mm F4 tablets but today I’m gonna try with some risers with 56mm F4 classics.

Running my 5.8s on the 033 shape (and 50mm F4 classics) and it goes, one of my favorite setups ever. Same width and length as the 053 but with a shorter WB and longer nose/tail. Probably my best experience with a cast venture high.

You should have no issues with the 56s. I was running an 8.5 FA with the 5.8s/1/8" riser/56 combo and had no wheelbite, even with a bones flat washer.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 14, 2021, 09:34:18 AM
To any past present venture lo enthusiasts: what’s the largest wheel you can use? I’m thinking 52mm classics, and just not turn sharply.
Much of my venture love is informed by nostalgia: the truck of choice for many of my favorite pros/parts.
If Puleo can skate back alley doors and the like, on 50s....maybe I don’t need gigantic conical fulls for the skatepark/parking lots.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on February 14, 2021, 10:05:17 AM
To any past present venture lo enthusiasts: what’s the largest wheel you can use? I’m thinking 52mm classics, and just not turn sharply.
Much of my venture love is informed by nostalgia: the truck of choice for many of my favorite pros/parts.
If Puleo can skate back alley doors and the like, on 50s....maybe I don’t need gigantic conical fulls for the skatepark/parking lots.

Loved me some 5.2 lows on 8.25 for a long time.  I normally did 50 or 51 classic shape, but would sometimes do 52.  I don't know that there was much difference in wheelbite with 52s.  I still had wheelbite regardless since I don't do tight trucks. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sundaynuggets on February 14, 2021, 10:14:30 AM
I rock 5.6 with an ace bottom bushing as my top bushing and a bones medium top bushing as my bottom bushing only with a top washer. The wobble with venture stability is super comfy to me.

Interesting! This is allowing you to skate ventures wobbly loose while maintaining some stability on center? (Just to make sure I understand correctly)

I discovered this recently about the new Krux and was wondering if ventures could be modified to have that same quality too. Whenever I ride the “turny” trucks wobbly loose the lack of stability on center always messes me up so I’m always looking for work arounds where I can have both
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on February 14, 2021, 11:30:13 AM
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Not sure if anyone cares but I threw my 5.6 hollows on an 8.18 FA that has a 14 WB and it feels incredible. Most comfortable I’ve felt on a board, ton of pop and stability but still easy to flick. Other setup is indy on quasi 8.25 at moment, think venture hollow paired with 14 WB to offset the 3.4 inch WB extension may be my sweetspot setup
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of course we care. How are the fingers of flat on each of those? Wonder if that accounts for anything w each

Looks like about 2 fingers of flat on both don’t see a real noticeable difference. The FA tail is obviously steeper than the quasi maybe that’s accounting for pop feel difference a bit along with the venture in general feeling a bit more stable than indy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: AngryBlackMan on February 14, 2021, 11:42:31 AM
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Back on the venture train... I don’t know why I want to skate these so bad.

6.1s on an 8.5 Fancy Lad deck with a 14.25wb.  I had them on my Girl G053 shape for a day and it was awful.  I couldn’t gotten used to it but I was t feeling it.

Skated them stock for a week (having lost weight being able to ride trucks stock has put my madness into overdrive with trying trucks out all over agin) and they were fine, not as deep of a turn as the aces I was on but that’s to be expected. 

Then I put some thunder 97a bushings in with flat washers top and bottom... now these things have kicked in.  I imagine this is the way they feel with bones.  Pretty surfy, but still stable.  The turn isn’t super deep but it’s smooth and it’s quicker than with a barrel bushing.

I’ve been skating them with 52mm F4 tablets but today I’m gonna try with some risers with 56mm F4 classics.
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ha damn! I thought you were going to 159’s for a bit. 97a do feel good - they seem to break in well too. Haven’t gotten enough time with my 94a but hoping it’s the same. Hopes that turn compared to 151s? Neither are deep but you think more stability?

With the risers and the conical bushings the 6.1’s turn well. Deep and smooth and you know when you’re close to getting wheelbite   The thunders turn faster but also wheelbite instantly. 

56’s and risers felt great today.  Took a minute to adjust but after that skated the same.  Biggest difference was the shape of the wheels (tablet vs classic)  during slappy crooks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 14, 2021, 12:10:10 PM
Back on the venture train... I don’t know why I want to skate these so bad.

6.1s on an 8.5 Fancy Lad deck with a 14.25wb.  I had them on my Girl G053 shape for a day and it was awful.  I couldn’t gotten used to it but I was t feeling it.

Skated them stock for a week (having lost weight being able to ride trucks stock has put my madness into overdrive with trying trucks out all over agin) and they were fine, not as deep of a turn as the aces I was on but that’s to be expected. 

Then I put some thunder 97a bushings in with flat washers top and bottom... now these things have kicked in.  I imagine this is the way they feel with bones.  Pretty surfy, but still stable.  The turn isn’t super deep but it’s smooth and it’s quicker than with a barrel bushing.

I’ve been skating them with 52mm F4 tablets but today I’m gonna try with some risers with 56mm F4 classics.
Had a G053 on venture 5.8’s last year and I will vouch for you when you say it’s awful. The fact that it was 32 inches long with like a 14.4ish wheelbase with not a lot of fingers of flat on the tail made popping anything on it feel just so heavy. Couldn’t get used to it. Was nice for heftier Ollies but flip tricks and anything else was pretty much non existent. Ghost pop galore. Definitely need some Aces on it instead or something to make the tail feel lighter when popping.

If you’re on ventures on a board that is around 32 inches long I feel like the wheelbase has to be somewhere between 14 to 14.25 for it to actually feel good, anything more and it starts making the tail a bit too heavy feeling.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 15, 2021, 11:09:39 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/cctSSLD/PXL-20210215-185658624.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cctSSLD)

I wish I had a ledge.

I'm thinking of ordering one of those transformer rail bench things.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on February 15, 2021, 11:38:49 AM
Anybody ever put a DLK or similar into a venture low?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 15, 2021, 12:00:52 PM
Anybody ever put a DLK or similar into a venture low?

Real funny that you mention this, was up last night looking at the different options....kreper vs dlk etc. seems like it would be ideal. Pretty rad, on ig has some tricks on how to install
 But no, I haven’t.

**lloyd, I think, was putting em in venture highs, which have the same height kingpin, so should work, yeah?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fs1/2cab on February 15, 2021, 12:09:23 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/cctSSLD/PXL-20210215-185658624.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cctSSLD)

I wish I had a ledge.

I'm thinking of ordering one of those transformer rail bench things.

Damn Flea, is that a real car? That looks so rad!

I think about building a small ledge by myself. Has to fit in my trunk
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on February 15, 2021, 01:03:39 PM
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Anybody ever put a DLK or similar into a venture low?
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Real funny that you mention this, was up last night looking at the different options....kreper vs dlk etc. seems like it would be ideal. Pretty rad, on ig has some tricks on how to install
 But no, I haven’t.

**lloyd, I think, was putting em in venture highs, which have the same height kingpin, so should work, yeah?

Yeah, I think it would work for sure since the plates on Ventures are interchangeable. But I guess I was just trying to see how it looked and if it would make that much of a difference.

I shouldn't even be thinking about this shit since I have a newish set of 5.8s and a brand new set of 5.6 hollows, and especially because every time I publicly espouse Venture I go back to Ace (and vice versa).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 15, 2021, 06:48:12 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/cctSSLD/PXL-20210215-185658624.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cctSSLD)

I wish I had a ledge.

I'm thinking of ordering one of those transformer rail bench things.
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Damn Flea, is that a real car? That looks so rad!

I think about building a small ledge by myself. Has to fit in my trunk

Nfs

I frickin wish I had a car to work on. I been without a car for about 14 years.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on February 15, 2021, 07:10:53 PM
Finally caved and copped some venture v hollow 5.6. Looking forward to them arriving. Probably gonna run extra washers on the inside and slap them on an antihero 8.5.

Just wanted to ask what people’s favorite boards are to put 5.6’s on. Thinking about trying one of those primitive 8.25 with the 14 wb.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 15, 2021, 07:52:29 PM
Finally caved and copped some venture v hollow 5.6. Looking forward to them arriving. Probably gonna run extra washers on the inside and slap them on an antihero 8.5.

Just wanted to ask what people’s favorite boards are to put 5.6’s on. Thinking about trying one of those primitive 8.25 with the 14 wb.

Anything with a short WB, 14 - 14.125. Can't ride them on a bog standard 8.25 x 31.75 x 14.25, but I'm just picky that way.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on February 15, 2021, 08:39:30 PM
Finally caved and copped some venture v hollow 5.6. Looking forward to them arriving. Probably gonna run extra washers on the inside and slap them on an antihero 8.5.

Just wanted to ask what people’s favorite boards are to put 5.6’s on. Thinking about trying one of those primitive 8.25 with the 14 wb.

Feels godly on a 8.18 FA/hockey with 14 WB since those extend WB 3.4 inches it offsets it very well. Stable with a ton of pop and no inconvenience flipping board.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 15, 2021, 09:12:45 PM
Finally caved and copped some venture v hollow 5.6. Looking forward to them arriving. Probably gonna run extra washers on the inside and slap them on an antihero 8.5.

Just wanted to ask what people’s favorite boards are to put 5.6’s on. Thinking about trying one of those primitive 8.25 with the 14 wb.

They're a fantastic fit for the 8.25"/14" Primitive deck, so far, it's my favorite combo with them; it's a really comfortable deck with a really nice shape.

I'm still struggling with the Ventures, pop is great, pinch good, grind good, stability amazing, but I do miss the the twitch of thunders and the turny of indy/ace. I can skate them just fine but I don't think they fit my style of skating (loose, fast and sloppy, like my women).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 15, 2021, 09:25:37 PM
Might be in the minority here, but I've skated many 31.75-32 inch long boards with a 14.25 wheelbase on forged plate ventures (so max wb extension) the past year and a half. Never really had a problem.

Going up to 14.38, 32 inches long I noticed it starting to become a bit clumsy. Could go down to 14.125 but definitely didn't prefer it, felt too short. 14 inch wb, even on forged plate ventures, felt fucked to me.

I think I do marginally prefer cast plates on 14.25 though, and imagine that on 14.38 itll be good where the forged plates was not ideal, maybe could even go back up to 14.5 if I feel like switching it up.

That being said I'm 6 5 and have skated many wider longer wb boards in the past (though with different trucks) so your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on February 15, 2021, 09:31:25 PM
Finally caved and copped some venture v hollow 5.6. Looking forward to them arriving. Probably gonna run extra washers on the inside and slap them on an antihero 8.5.

Just wanted to ask what people’s favorite boards are to put 5.6’s on. Thinking about trying one of those primitive 8.25 with the 14 wb.
I'm riding my 5.8 standards on a 8.5 real full se. Also ride them on an Antihero 8.5 with a 14.38. As long as you're not going over 14.38 you'll be fine. I am gonna try them on an 8.25×32×14.25 theories next to see what's up.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 16, 2021, 07:43:58 AM
Finally caved and copped some venture v hollow 5.6. Looking forward to them arriving. Probably gonna run extra washers on the inside and slap them on an antihero 8.5.

Just wanted to ask what people’s favorite boards are to put 5.6’s on. Thinking about trying one of those primitive 8.25 with the 14 wb.

Orchard m1
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 16, 2021, 12:37:58 PM
have a pair of 6.1 hangers w/forged plates (6.1 vlights?) on a 14.25wb deck and got 17.5 on both sides...

can someone else check to see if they add 3.25?

looks like i might not need 6.1 hollows so ill take it if true
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on February 20, 2021, 08:25:24 AM
have a pair of 6.1 hangers w/forged plates (6.1 vlights?) on a 14.25wb deck and got 17.5 on both sides...

can someone else check to see if they add 3.25?

looks like i might not need 6.1 hollows so ill take it if true

My v-hollow 5.6 with forged plates add exactly 3.4 inches to WB. Quasi 14.25 WB with those trucks is 17.65 when I measured. So I threw them on a 14 WB 8.18 FA and feels way nicer and easier to flip
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 20, 2021, 08:30:24 AM
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have a pair of 6.1 hangers w/forged plates (6.1 vlights?) on a 14.25wb deck and got 17.5 on both sides...

can someone else check to see if they add 3.25?

looks like i might not need 6.1 hollows so ill take it if true
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My v-hollow 5.6 with forged plates add exactly 3.4 inches to WB. Quasi 14.25 WB with those trucks is 17.65 when I measured. So I threw them on a 14 WB 8.18 FA and feels way nicer and easier to flip
i have 5.6 on forged plates that do the same, looks like the 6.1s specifically have a different geometry and dont extend as much
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on February 20, 2021, 08:39:58 AM
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have a pair of 6.1 hangers w/forged plates (6.1 vlights?) on a 14.25wb deck and got 17.5 on both sides...

can someone else check to see if they add 3.25?

looks like i might not need 6.1 hollows so ill take it if true
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My v-hollow 5.6 with forged plates add exactly 3.4 inches to WB. Quasi 14.25 WB with those trucks is 17.65 when I measured. So I threw them on a 14 WB 8.18 FA and feels way nicer and easier to flip
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i have 5.6 on forged plates that do the same, looks like the 6.1s specifically have a different geometry and dont extend as much

Ahh I had no idea the 6.1 have different geometry my bad. That is interesting though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 20, 2021, 09:04:06 AM
Back on Venture 5.2 V-Hollow with a cast baseplate. Fingers crossed for that lovely pinch.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on February 20, 2021, 09:21:58 AM
have a pair of 6.1 hangers w/forged plates (6.1 vlights?) on a 14.25wb deck and got 17.5 on both sides...

can someone else check to see if they add 3.25?

looks like i might not need 6.1 hollows so ill take it if true
(https://i.imgur.com/LWb6tuY.jpg)
I just stopped mid woodroom session to check..it is exactly 3.25. I was going to get some hollows but these regulars are flipping just fine. The picture is of no relevance other than I love this setup deeply and had to show someone.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CaptainBushwacker on February 20, 2021, 10:27:33 AM
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have a pair of 6.1 hangers w/forged plates (6.1 vlights?) on a 14.25wb deck and got 17.5 on both sides...

can someone else check to see if they add 3.25?

looks like i might not need 6.1 hollows so ill take it if true
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(https://i.imgur.com/LWb6tuY.jpg)
I just stopped mid woodroom session to check..it is exactly 3.25. I was going to get some hollows but these regulars are flipping just fine. The picture is of no relevance other than I love this setup deeply and had to show someone.

Looks good as hell!

Edit: I also love my 5.6 v-light ventures, best trucks i've had in years
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on February 20, 2021, 05:02:43 PM

I'm still struggling with the Ventures, pop is great, pinch good, grind good, stability amazing, but I do miss the the twitch of thunders and the turny of indy/ace. I can skate them just fine but I don't think they fit my style of skating (loose, fast and sloppy, like my women).

This. I'm dealing with this EXACT type of madness right now between ventures and aces. I've done everything I can to make the ventures more surfy, riptide pivot cups, their softest bushings, flat washers, sanded the shit out of the top cone to where it's a little smaller than the stock one, but it's no use. They do turn better than stock, but still nowhere near good. I'm halfway considering just splitting the difference, and riding indy's like a fucking casual. Wtf.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on February 20, 2021, 06:33:49 PM
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I'm still struggling with the Ventures, pop is great, pinch good, grind good, stability amazing, but I do miss the the twitch of thunders and the turny of indy/ace. I can skate them just fine but I don't think they fit my style of skating (loose, fast and sloppy, like my women).
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This. I'm dealing with this EXACT type of madness right now between ventures and aces. I've done everything I can to make the ventures more surfy, riptide pivot cups, their softest bushings, flat washers, sanded the shit out of the top cone to where it's a little smaller than the stock one, but it's no use. They do turn better than stock, but still nowhere near good. I'm halfway considering just splitting the difference, and riding indy's like a fucking casual. Wtf.

Kinda have this madness too. I have way more pop on ventures and they grind perfectly, but for whatever reason they make no comply tricks really hard (I do a lot of them) and I miss the ace turn. Forcing myself to stick with the ventures for now though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on February 20, 2021, 06:54:10 PM
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I'm still struggling with the Ventures, pop is great, pinch good, grind good, stability amazing, but I do miss the the twitch of thunders and the turny of indy/ace. I can skate them just fine but I don't think they fit my style of skating (loose, fast and sloppy, like my women).
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This. I'm dealing with this EXACT type of madness right now between ventures and aces. I've done everything I can to make the ventures more surfy, riptide pivot cups, their softest bushings, flat washers, sanded the shit out of the top cone to where it's a little smaller than the stock one, but it's no use. They do turn better than stock, but still nowhere near good. I'm halfway considering just splitting the difference, and riding indy's like a fucking casual. Wtf.
Bones bushings. if you weigh 170 to 180 ride the hards. That's all ima say.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 20, 2021, 07:45:52 PM
indy super soft bushings and flat washers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 20, 2021, 08:52:09 PM
indy super soft bushings and flat washers

That's what I'm using. Well kinda. The snow is fucking it up
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lloyd Braun on February 20, 2021, 09:00:21 PM
Krux inverted kingpin in 5.8 standard update for anyone interested:

Ive been skating these for about 6 weeks and the jury is still out on whether or not I like them. There is definitely NO kingpin hang up on smiths, but its definitely made bs smiths harder although FS smiths are super easy now. Few things Ive noticed, not sure if its due to the kingpin or my form but: I seem to slip into lip slide alot easier than I remember before (FS & BS) for BS I end up dipping the board all the way to the ground a lot as in my front truck basically nose manuals. Im blaming this on not doing the trick much recently, but I definitely noticed it being harder, even harder than the kingpin hangups I experienced on a standard kingpin.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 20, 2021, 09:06:23 PM
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indy super soft bushings and flat washers
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That's what I'm using. Well kinda. The snow is fucking it up
we got a lot - keep our heads up though 40’s this week coming up. This is the worst of it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CBP on February 20, 2021, 10:55:36 PM
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Finally caved and copped some venture v hollow 5.6. Looking forward to them arriving. Probably gonna run extra washers on the inside and slap them on an antihero 8.5.

Just wanted to ask what people’s favorite boards are to put 5.6’s on. Thinking about trying one of those primitive 8.25 with the 14 wb.
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They're a fantastic fit for the 8.25"/14" Primitive deck, so far, it's my favorite combo with them; it's a really comfortable deck with a really nice shape.

I'm still struggling with the Ventures, pop is great, pinch good, grind good, stability amazing, but I do miss the the twitch of thunders and the turny of indy/ace. I can skate them just fine but I don't think they fit my style of skating (loose, fast and sloppy, like my women).

After a dozen sessions my Ventures broke in and turn great now. Or I’ve just gotten used to them.

Either way I’m gonna skate em til I hit axles &#128523;
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 21, 2021, 12:47:48 AM
Love the feeling of Ventures on the setup today, they really shine on long-ish decks with a short WB. Can't beat the pinch the baseplate slide is heaven.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on February 21, 2021, 06:47:14 AM

Bones bushings. if you weigh 170 to 180 ride the hards. That's all ima say.
Not a fan of bones bushings, I feel like the built in washer thing just sinks in and kills them

indy super soft bushings and flat washers

I'm running the softest riptide bushings right now with flat washers. Better, but I hopped on my cruiser with ace 55's and those 9in trucks turned waaaaaaaaaay better than the 8.25 ventures. Even after all the mods, it was laughable honestly. The ventures legit felt like they didn't turn in comparison.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 21, 2021, 07:08:44 AM
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Bones bushings. if you weigh 170 to 180 ride the hards. That's all ima say.
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Not a fan of bones bushings, I feel like the built in washer thing just sinks in and kills them

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indy super soft bushings and flat washers
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I'm running the softest riptide bushings right now with flat washers. Better, but I hopped on my cruiser with ace 55's and those 9in trucks turned waaaaaaaaaay better than the 8.25 ventures. Even after all the mods, it was laughable honestly. The ventures legit felt like they didn't turn in comparison.


Ride ace then.


I use both. The turn on ace is great, the best. Venture have other advantages, pop, stability....ace bring the effective wb in the most, venture push the effective wb out the most.

Right now im usually on venture lo’s, often with bones, and if the wheels are small enough I don’t mind the turn at all.
But Gesmar’s gotta Gesmar.

In a different comment you mentioned Indys, and they do have some middle of the road qualities to both trucks. I’ve been skating some 139 forged hollows, less extreme than the other two brands mentioned. Something always feels like it’s missing with indys....
Ventures are cooler.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on February 21, 2021, 07:19:40 AM


Ride ace then.


I use both. The turn on ace is great, the best. Venture have other advantages, pop, stability....ace bring the effective wb in the most, venture push the effective wb out the most.

Right now im usually on venture lo’s, often with bones, and if the wheels are small enough I don’t mind the turn at all.
But Gesmar’s gotta Gesmar.

In a different comment you mentioned Indys, and they do have some middle of the road qualities to both trucks. I’ve been skating some 139 forged hollows, less extreme than the other two brands mentioned. Something always feels like it’s missing with indys....
Ventures are cooler.

I agree with the feeling of something missing from indy's. That's what started my madness in the first place. I skated indy's for YEARS, got a pair of aces, and went down the madness tunnel. Personally, I think ventures look like shit, but being the last USA made truck is pretty cool, and I guess they are kinda hip right now with the whole 90's hip hop and baggy clothes being in style again. After skating around the truck spectrum, I feel like indy's are just the sensible middle ground between aces and ventures. They do everything well, and they grind the best (not pinch, grind). But they don't give you that amazing turn from ace, or that superior pop from ventures. My standard (not trying to pop the fuck out of it) kickflips, were legitimately twice as high on ventures. It really made me want to give them a chance.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 21, 2021, 07:50:34 AM
I’m not big into bushing experimentation, but a conical bottom bushing in ventures makes the turn a little quicker.
You lost me at ventures looking bad tho, ventures and ace (22s/33s) look the coolest. Old ventures look even better. Phil Shao or Dan Drehobl....Wade Speyer!?? Fuck. Their trucks looked amazing. Not to mention oh, pretty much everyone in penal code, mouse, trilogy.
I like the feel of turning, I find the talk of ventures not turning to be....dumb honestly. They turn. You slalom or whut. Ventures take a little longer to break in, and the top washer does bind, but they turn. The kingpin is shorter (on the hi’s), which is a feature with positive aspects, and drawbacks. Use shorter bushing and flat washer.
Depends on what I’m in the mood for, but the feeling of the pop is the most important criteria for me with trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on February 21, 2021, 07:54:46 AM
Ventures look the best and it’s not even close. 144 has been my truck of choice for a few months but I agree that’s something is always missing with Indy.


Also this:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bfi-YFCh6_3/?igshid=503y1ijklb45
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 21, 2021, 08:27:41 AM
Ventures look the best and it’s not even close. 144 has been my truck of choice for a few months but I agree that’s something is always missing with Indy.


Also this:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bfi-YFCh6_3/?igshid=503y1ijklb45


That picture is so great.


In a completely non scientific way, for me, indys ride a little smaller, ventures a little bigger. What that nonsense is trying to say is if I like 144 indys, I’d be better off on 5.2 ventures. I’m basing this off of my own negligible skating, and then seeing pros from my generation size up from 5.0 lo’s to 139s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on February 21, 2021, 09:02:42 AM
I’m not big into bushing experimentation, but a conical bottom bushing in ventures makes the turn a little quicker.
You lost me at ventures looking bad tho, ventures and ace (22s/33s) look the coolest. Old ventures look even better. Phil Shao or Dan Drehobl....Wade Speyer!?? Fuck. Their trucks looked amazing. Not to mention oh, pretty much everyone in penal code, mouse, trilogy.
I like the feel of turning, I find the talk of ventures not turning to be....dumb honestly. They turn. You slalom or whut. Ventures take a little longer to break in, and the top washer does bind, but they turn. The kingpin is shorter (on the hi’s), which is a feature with positive aspects, and drawbacks. Use shorter bushing and flat washer.
Depends on what I’m in the mood for, but the feeling of the pop is the most important criteria for me with trucks.

Conical bottom is a good idea. Might be my last attempt at fixing them. I'm not saying they DON'T turn. But in comparison to ace, it feels like that. I've had this set of 5.6 hollows on my last 3 decks, and I kinda got used to it, I could skate don't get me wrong. But when I stepped back on some ace's, it was a whole 'nother world.

Edit: the looks thing is subjective really, the logo is cool, but the trucks themselves look like some walmart bs to me personally. I prefer the slim look of aces. Again, indy sits in the middle of this for me. I don't think they look great, but they're ok. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Niceblackman on February 21, 2021, 12:40:30 PM
Back on the venture train... I don’t know why I want to skate these so bad.

6.1s on an 8.5 Fancy Lad deck with a 14.25wb.  I had them on my Girl G053 shape for a day and it was awful.  I couldn’t gotten used to it but I was t feeling it.

Skated them stock for a week (having lost weight being able to ride trucks stock has put my madness into overdrive with trying trucks out all over agin) and they were fine, not as deep of a turn as the aces I was on but that’s to be expected. 

Then I put some thunder 97a bushings in with flat washers top and bottom... now these things have kicked in.  I imagine this is the way they feel with bones.  Pretty surfy, but still stable.  The turn isn’t super deep but it’s smooth and it’s quicker than with a barrel bushing.

I’ve been skating them with 52mm F4 tablets but today I’m gonna try with some risers with 56mm F4 classics.

This is me (trying to be a more positive person.  I’ve had that name for over 10yrs here on slap). I tried the 56’s today with no risers and I skated them fine but could definitely notice more wheelbite.  To the point where I tightened up my trucks a little.

I’ll put the 52s back on. The conical bottom bushing with flat washers too and bottom gives ventures the best turn for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 21, 2021, 12:53:45 PM
I'm shocked how anyone tries to compare a venture to an ace......such different trucks....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 21, 2021, 04:57:26 PM
why dont my oranges taste like lemons? this needs to be fixed
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on February 21, 2021, 05:07:24 PM
why dont my oranges taste like lemons? this needs to be fixed
I'm shocked how anyone tries to compare a venture to an ace......such different trucks....

Can't I have my cake and eat it too? Lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 21, 2021, 09:44:13 PM
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I'm shocked how anyone tries to compare a venture to an ace......such different trucks....
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Can't I have my cake and eat it too? Lol

I think thunder is USA manufactured, well mostly, same as venture. Cast thunders are pretty close to Indy in some regards. Could be another option for ye olde madness. Or just ride indys. Or just ride old indys (USA).
The people that I knew that really wanted ventures to turn quickly, seemed to mostly run bones mediums (I prefer the herds, just run looser). Stock bushings will work, just take awhile.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on February 22, 2021, 04:51:21 AM
Krux inverted kingpin in 5.8 standard update for anyone interested:

Ive been skating these for about 6 weeks and the jury is still out on whether or not I like them. There is definitely NO kingpin hang up on smiths, but its definitely made bs smiths harder although FS smiths are super easy now. Few things Ive noticed, not sure if its due to the kingpin or my form but: I seem to slip into lip slide alot easier than I remember before (FS & BS) for BS I end up dipping the board all the way to the ground a lot as in my front truck basically nose manuals. Im blaming this on not doing the trick much recently, but I definitely noticed it being harder, even harder than the kingpin hangups I experienced on a standard kingpin.

Interested! Though it looks like those DLK hollow pins basically don’t exist outside US deadstock anymore so unlikely ever gonna get to do this mod.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 04, 2021, 11:29:57 PM
venture 6.1 vhollows

(https://i.ibb.co/Rg558wM/3-F2-D5-C4-F-490-A-4-ADD-A122-507-C907-A8-E2-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/K511nvQ)

back on light trucks coming back from a knee injury and its working wonders. bigger/wider wheels put enough "weight" on the end of the axles to keep things feeling balanced. flick is more about speed and precision, two things i assumed were lost after a month off board. learned 5 new tricks in the last 2 days

my knees have also been aching less vs. the raws and that brings me the peace of mind to skate harder. have enough ventures to never run a full cast set again
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on March 18, 2021, 04:52:37 AM
I recently got some 5.0 los from a Pal on here (which I am super grateful for btw) and I was wondering was there models with different geometry? I have the nut backed way off and they don't turn..And not like a "Ventures don't turn" they literally don't turn, and I'm 210 lbs. The kingpin seems to have a lot less clearance than I remember to. Anyhow any insight is appreciated!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 18, 2021, 05:38:23 AM
I recently got some 5.0 los from a Pal on here (which I am super grateful for btw) and I was wondering was there models with different geometry? I have the nut backed way off and they don't turn..And not like a "Ventures don't turn" they literally don't turn, and I'm 210 lbs. The kingpin seems to have a lot less clearance than I remember to. Anyhow any insight is appreciated!

What bushings do you got?

When was your last 5.0 low?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on March 18, 2021, 05:49:42 AM
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I recently got some 5.0 los from a Pal on here (which I am super grateful for btw) and I was wondering was there models with different geometry? I have the nut backed way off and they don't turn..And not like a "Ventures don't turn" they literally don't turn, and I'm 210 lbs. The kingpin seems to have a lot less clearance than I remember to. Anyhow any insight is appreciated!
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What bushings do you got?

When was your last 5.0 low?
I can't tell you the color of the ones that they arrived with because I'm colorblind, but I put some stock Indy ones in and they felt the same. Last year I bought a pair of 5.0 los from Orchard but I gave that setup to a little fella in my hood. I do remember running them with nut flush and that was fine for medium tightness at my weight. These seem different to me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on March 18, 2021, 06:44:52 AM
I recently got some 5.0 los from a Pal on here (which I am super grateful for btw) and I was wondering was there models with different geometry? I have the nut backed way off and they don't turn..And not like a "Ventures don't turn" they literally don't turn, and I'm 210 lbs. The kingpin seems to have a lot less clearance than I remember to. Anyhow any insight is appreciated!

Depends on the age. I want to say like 2011-ish Venture went to DLX when Streetcorner Distribution folded, and the geometry got a redesign. A lot of the negative reputation that Venture has comes from the older geo.

If they have the "V" logo printed on the front: DLX=V goes with the V-shape on the front of the hanger. Streetcorner=V goes against the V-shape on the hanger.

If they don't have the V, look under the hanger where it meets the pivot. The size (5.0L) will be cast in, which I believe they only started doing when they went to DLX.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 18, 2021, 06:53:15 AM
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I recently got some 5.0 los from a Pal on here (which I am super grateful for btw) and I was wondering was there models with different geometry? I have the nut backed way off and they don't turn..And not like a "Ventures don't turn" they literally don't turn, and I'm 210 lbs. The kingpin seems to have a lot less clearance than I remember to. Anyhow any insight is appreciated!
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What bushings do you got?

When was your last 5.0 low?
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I can't tell you the color of the ones that they arrived with because I'm colorblind, but I put some stock Indy ones in and they felt the same. Last year I bought a pair of 5.0 los from Orchard but I gave that setup to a little fella in my hood. I do remember running them with nut flush and that was fine for medium tightness at my weight. These seem different to me.

5.0 los I often use bones bushings. For you, and almost everyone, I’d get the hards, and run em loose. The truck will turn. No top washer and the truck will turn till wheelbite.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on March 18, 2021, 06:57:03 AM
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I recently got some 5.0 los from a Pal on here (which I am super grateful for btw) and I was wondering was there models with different geometry? I have the nut backed way off and they don't turn..And not like a "Ventures don't turn" they literally don't turn, and I'm 210 lbs. The kingpin seems to have a lot less clearance than I remember to. Anyhow any insight is appreciated!
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Depends on the age. I want to say like 2011-ish Venture went to DLX when Streetcorner Distribution folded, and the geometry got a redesign. A lot of the negative reputation that Venture has comes from the older geo.

If they have the "V" logo printed on the front: DLX=V goes with the V-shape on the front of the hanger. Streetcorner=V goes against the V-shape on the hanger.

If they don't have the V, look under the hanger where it meets the pivot. The size (5.0L) will be cast in, which I believe they only started doing when they went to DLX.
Ah gotcha, great description man! These have the V going against the V shape of the hanger. So if the board is sitting wheels down the V reads correctly. Is there anything I can do to make these skate better?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on March 18, 2021, 07:04:30 AM
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I recently got some 5.0 los from a Pal on here (which I am super grateful for btw) and I was wondering was there models with different geometry? I have the nut backed way off and they don't turn..And not like a "Ventures don't turn" they literally don't turn, and I'm 210 lbs. The kingpin seems to have a lot less clearance than I remember to. Anyhow any insight is appreciated!
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Depends on the age. I want to say like 2011-ish Venture went to DLX when Streetcorner Distribution folded, and the geometry got a redesign. A lot of the negative reputation that Venture has comes from the older geo.

If they have the "V" logo printed on the front: DLX=V goes with the V-shape on the front of the hanger. Streetcorner=V goes against the V-shape on the hanger.

If they don't have the V, look under the hanger where it meets the pivot. The size (5.0L) will be cast in, which I believe they only started doing when they went to DLX.
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Ah gotcha, great description man! These have the V going against the V shape of the hanger. So if the board is sitting wheels down the V reads correctly. Is there anything I can do to make these skate better?

Yeah, Streetcorner then. No idea how to make them turn better! They were all I skate for over a decade and I always left everything stock.

I would do what OK said and put some bones (or any conical bushings that fit) with a flat top washer. That should make them a little more responsive and open up the turn a bit.

Edit: I always skated them with a 1/8" riser. Total blasphemy, but I'm sure that is part of why I always enjoyed them and never felt the need to go to a higher truck in the day.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: baustin on March 18, 2021, 07:04:55 AM
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I recently got some 5.0 los from a Pal on here (which I am super grateful for btw) and I was wondering was there models with different geometry? I have the nut backed way off and they don't turn..And not like a "Ventures don't turn" they literally don't turn, and I'm 210 lbs. The kingpin seems to have a lot less clearance than I remember to. Anyhow any insight is appreciated!
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Depends on the age. I want to say like 2011-ish Venture went to DLX when Streetcorner Distribution folded, and the geometry got a redesign. A lot of the negative reputation that Venture has comes from the older geo.

If they have the "V" logo printed on the front: DLX=V goes with the V-shape on the front of the hanger. Streetcorner=V goes against the V-shape on the hanger.

If they don't have the V, look under the hanger where it meets the pivot. The size (5.0L) will be cast in, which I believe they only started doing when they went to DLX.
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Ah gotcha, great description man! These have the V going against the V shape of the hanger. So if the board is sitting wheels down the V reads correctly. Is there anything I can do to make these skate better?

I always suggest wax shavings in the pivot cups to free up the turn a bit. Once you have a set of bushings you intend to stick with (whether bones or stock) just try to be patient and break them in. Just don’t expect Venture lows to ever turn like a higher or carvey type of truck because that’s really not what they were designed to do
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on March 18, 2021, 07:14:38 AM
Ok thanks guys! I actually hate carvy trucks but these are beyond ridiculous tight. I was going to ask if bones will fit in them, but you guys already answered that..I have a few pairs of broken in mediums and will try those today after work. Thanks again homies I knew I could count on you.  :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on April 02, 2021, 02:52:04 PM
Am I dumb and 5.8 v-hollows don't exist? Or are they really sold out literally everywhere? Anyone got a line on some? Been enjoying my 5.6 v-hollows, but I'd like to try a bit more width with the same venture stability.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 02, 2021, 04:53:58 PM
Am I dumb and 5.8 v-hollows don't exist? Or are they really sold out literally everywhere? Anyone got a line on some? Been enjoying my 5.6 v-hollows, but I'd like to try a bit more width with the same venture stability.

Looks like 5.8s are only available in V-Lights or Titanium, haven't seen many titanium models throughout 2020.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on April 02, 2021, 08:52:00 PM
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Am I dumb and 5.8 v-hollows don't exist? Or are they really sold out literally everywhere? Anyone got a line on some? Been enjoying my 5.6 v-hollows, but I'd like to try a bit more width with the same venture stability.
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Looks like 5.8s are only available in V-Lights or Titanium, haven't seen many titanium models throughout 2020.

The new venture caroling advertises v-hollow 5.8s ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 02, 2021, 11:02:58 PM
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Am I dumb and 5.8 v-hollows don't exist? Or are they really sold out literally everywhere? Anyone got a line on some? Been enjoying my 5.6 v-hollows, but I'd like to try a bit more width with the same venture stability.
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Looks like 5.8s are only available in V-Lights or Titanium, haven't seen many titanium models throughout 2020.
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The new venture caroling advertises v-hollow 5.8s ?

New Venture catalog has them all, but production and availability might be a different story...

https://venturetrucks.net/

(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring21/ve-sp21-d1-05-polished.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: baaaaaaguette on April 03, 2021, 01:12:58 AM
Ok thanks guys! I actually hate carvy trucks but these are beyond ridiculous tight. I was going to ask if bones will fit in them, but you guys already answered that..I have a few pairs of broken in mediums and will try those today after work. Thanks again homies I knew I could count on you.  :)

Venture+medium bones is the dream. Everything feels easy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fifty8mm on April 03, 2021, 05:20:52 AM
Ok thanks guys! I actually hate carvy trucks but these are beyond ridiculous tight. I was going to ask if bones will fit in them, but you guys already answered that..I have a few pairs of broken in mediums and will try those today after work. Thanks again homies I knew I could count on you.  :)
Any bushings you have just take off the top washer. I ran dlx supercush hard (purple) and with the top washer no turn at all. And without the washer they turned.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on April 03, 2021, 05:31:26 AM
^ thanks man, I ended up just using bones med. with no washers. It's not perfect so maybe I will try your idea next. Much appreciated
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on April 03, 2021, 12:53:06 PM
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Am I dumb and 5.8 v-hollows don't exist? Or are they really sold out literally everywhere? Anyone got a line on some? Been enjoying my 5.6 v-hollows, but I'd like to try a bit more width with the same venture stability.
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Looks like 5.8s are only available in V-Lights or Titanium, haven't seen many titanium models throughout 2020.
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The new venture caroling advertises v-hollow 5.8s ?
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New Venture catalog has them all, but production and availability might be a different story...

https://venturetrucks.net/

(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring21/ve-sp21-d1-05-polished.jpg)

Yeah I have been unable to find 5.8 v-hollows anywhere. If anyone has a lead on some that would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on April 15, 2021, 07:46:59 AM
So no more 5.2lo in lights or hollows .

Has anyone made the switch recently from low to highs? I’ve been on 5.2lows the last year but grabbed some 5.2H hollow to try and combat wheelbite riding 52mm SF F4 OG classics

Feeling scared to change it up though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on April 19, 2021, 02:31:10 PM
First time on Ventures. 5.6 V-Hollows on an April 8.25 w/ 14" wb...

Swapped the bottom washer for a Indy aftermarket (lighter), and top for a Bones flat. Nylock flush with the top of the kingpin.

Absolutely love this setup so far. Coming off Indy Ti 144s, I don't feel lacking for turn at all. In fact, I love that I can push it all the way til the wheels hit the deck, and it is easy to control right at that limit.

Seriously loving the pop though. My board feels like it zings into my feet on flip tricks for the catch.

Excited to get more time on this setup!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on April 19, 2021, 02:58:20 PM
First time on Ventures. 5.6 V-Hollows on an April 8.25 w/ 14" wb...

Swapped the bottom washer for a Indy aftermarket (lighter), and top for a Bones flat. Nylock flush with the top of the kingpin.

Absolutely love this setup so far. Coming off Indy Ti 144s, I don't feel lacking for turn at all. In fact, I love that I can push it all the way til the wheels hit the deck, and it is easy to control right at that limit.

Seriously loving the pop though. My board feels like it zings into my feet on flip tricks for the catch.

Excited to get more time on this setup!

I have 5.6 v hollow on a FA 8.18 14 WB and also Indy titanium 144 on an 8.25 local brand with 14.25 WB, bones hard bushings in both since I’m heavy and I like the venture setup way more. Pop is absurd on the short wheelbase FA and turn is more than sufficient.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: The.Tran.Man on April 19, 2021, 07:23:47 PM
I go back and forth between Thunder 147s and Venture 5.2 Hi V-Lights. I run the ventures stock with a flat top washer. I can get them to turn just fine. Never felt like I was lacking in turn when I first tried ventures in general but the flat washer definitely makes a difference for those who haven't tried that
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 19, 2021, 09:21:39 PM
Looking for a bushing recommendation for my 5.6, I'm riding them with Bones Medium which give a nice turn and pinch. But the nut refuses to stay secure and I have to tighten the nut 2-3 times a session, often getting rattle loose and I can tighten it with my fingers. I try to ride my trucks fairly loose like a 4 (on a scale of 1-10, 1 is Daewon, 10 is Chris Cole). Any recommendations on a conical bushing that does the trick?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 20, 2021, 06:32:03 AM
Looking for a bushing recommendation for my 5.6, I'm riding them with Bones Medium which give a nice turn and pinch. But the nut refuses to stay secure and I have to tighten the nut 2-3 times a session, often getting rattle loose and I can tighten it with my fingers. I try to ride my trucks fairly loose like a 4 (on a scale of 1-10, 1 is Daewon, 10 is Chris Cole). Any recommendations on a conical bushing that does the trick?

First you can flip the nylon side down.

Indy replacement parts seem to be the move. I am riding the super softs. I was going to swap back to purps but this bushings like a 2. And I'm feeling it rn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 20, 2021, 07:00:04 AM
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Looking for a bushing recommendation for my 5.6, I'm riding them with Bones Medium which give a nice turn and pinch. But the nut refuses to stay secure and I have to tighten the nut 2-3 times a session, often getting rattle loose and I can tighten it with my fingers. I try to ride my trucks fairly loose like a 4 (on a scale of 1-10, 1 is Daewon, 10 is Chris Cole). Any recommendations on a conical bushing that does the trick?
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First you can flip the nylon side down.

Indy replacement parts seem to be the move. I am riding the super softs. I was going to swap back to purps but this bushings like a 2. And I'm feeling it rn.
seconded on the indy super softs but i prefer the barrels.

im running purp tops with broken in 78a bottoms (all flat washers) and at 200ish lbs, feels like a 2.5 on that scale. might be closer to a 4 if you weigh considerably less

never really understood the deal with conical bushings in ventures. how much stability is lost with switching? might be willing to give it a chance when these 56s wear down
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 20, 2021, 12:33:15 PM
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Looking for a bushing recommendation for my 5.6, I'm riding them with Bones Medium which give a nice turn and pinch. But the nut refuses to stay secure and I have to tighten the nut 2-3 times a session, often getting rattle loose and I can tighten it with my fingers. I try to ride my trucks fairly loose like a 4 (on a scale of 1-10, 1 is Daewon, 10 is Chris Cole). Any recommendations on a conical bushing that does the trick?
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First you can flip the nylon side down.

Indy replacement parts seem to be the move. I am riding the super softs. I was going to swap back to purps but this bushings like a 2. And I'm feeling it rn.
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seconded on the indy super softs but i prefer the barrels.

im running purp tops with broken in 78a bottoms (all flat washers) and at 200ish lbs, feels like a 2.5 on that scale. might be closer to a 4 if you weigh considerably less

never really understood the deal with conical bushings in ventures. how much stability is lost with switching? might be willing to give it a chance when these 56s wear down

I'm on the white barrels. The orange Indy r.p. conical bushings I save for my 139s.

The venture i think is best with a barrel
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Damoforce on April 23, 2021, 05:31:40 AM
Does anyone know the weight on 5.2 V Lights Hi?

First time on Ventures. 5.6 V-Hollows on an April 8.25 w/ 14" wb...

Swapped the bottom washer for a Indy aftermarket (lighter), and top for a Bones flat. Nylock flush with the top of the kingpin.

Absolutely love this setup so far. Coming off Indy Ti 144s, I don't feel lacking for turn at all. In fact, I love that I can push it all the way til the wheels hit the deck, and it is easy to control right at that limit.

Seriously loving the pop though. My board feels like it zings into my feet on flip tricks for the catch.

Excited to get more time on this setup!

Did you ride the Indys on the April deck, if so what did you prefer between the Indys and Venture
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on April 25, 2021, 11:12:24 PM
Does anyone know the weight on 5.2 V Lights Hi?


Did you ride the Indys on the April deck, if so what did you prefer between the Indys and Venture

Tactics has the 5.2 Hi V-Lights at ~340g each.

https://www.tactics.com/venture/v-lights-skateboard-trucks/all-polished-52-hi

I haven't ridden the Indys on that April.

I have the Indy 144s on a 14.25 wheelbase currently, and the overall wheelbase (axle to axle) is shorter than on the April.

I think it'd be too squirrely for my ability to manage hah
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on April 26, 2021, 05:10:10 AM
Why did I ever leave Venture.

I skated thunders the last year and had a few weeks on Ace and it did nothing for my skating.

Just went back out on my 5.2 low cast and it just feels so good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 26, 2021, 07:34:19 AM
Why did I ever leave Venture.

I skated thunders the last year and had a few weeks on Ace and it did nothing for my skating.

Just went back out on my 5.2 low cast and it just feels so good.

Radiohead said it best:
You do it to yourself, you do
And that's what really hurts
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on April 26, 2021, 12:26:10 PM
On one of the experience episodes Kelly Hart mentions that Koston redrills his Ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CaptainBushwacker on April 28, 2021, 03:30:28 AM
So I was wondering.

I've been riding Girl G052 for the last month, with Venture 5.6 V-Lights.
The 14" WB is working nicely with them shits.

But I've seen Carl Aikens rocking the G016, which is 8.375. Also with Ventures, buuut the WB on that board is 14.25.

Since the store I was planning to buy from only has the G016 with the Pop Secret tech that I like for durability, should I go for it, or is the 14.25 wb too much? Any experiences with that shape and ventures?

Edit: https://crailtap.com/shapes/#g016
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 28, 2021, 05:18:17 AM
So I was wondering.

I've been riding Girl G052 for the last month, with Venture 5.6 V-Lights.
The 14" WB is working nicely with them shits.

But I've seen Carl Aikens rocking the G016, which is 8.375. Also with Ventures, buuut the WB on that board is 14.25.

Since the store I was planning to buy from only has the G016 with the Pop Secret tech that I like for durability, should I go for it, or is the 14.25 wb too much? Any experiences with that shape and ventures?

Edit: https://crailtap.com/shapes/#g016
While I don’t have experience with that particular shape I often run ventures on a 14.25 wheelbase and enjoy it. I’m a short dude and even then the wheelbase doesn’t bother me. I would even say if the tail has enough length it should even it out but I’m riding a board that has a 31.5 length and a short tail so I don’t know anything ha. If anything when I went up from 14 to 14.25 wheelbases my manual tricks feel better
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CaptainBushwacker on April 28, 2021, 05:32:12 AM
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So I was wondering.

I've been riding Girl G052 for the last month, with Venture 5.6 V-Lights.
The 14" WB is working nicely with them shits.

But I've seen Carl Aikens rocking the G016, which is 8.375. Also with Ventures, buuut the WB on that board is 14.25.

Since the store I was planning to buy from only has the G016 with the Pop Secret tech that I like for durability, should I go for it, or is the 14.25 wb too much? Any experiences with that shape and ventures?

Edit: https://crailtap.com/shapes/#g016
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While I don’t have experience with that particular shape I often run ventures on a 14.25 wheelbase and enjoy it. I’m a short dude and even then the wheelbase doesn’t bother me. I would even say if the tail has enough length it should even it out but I’m riding a board that has a 31.5 length and a short tail so I don’t know anything ha. If anything when I went up from 14 to 14.25 wheelbases my manual tricks feel better

Thanks for the feedback!

I was also wondering about the tail length, because the G052 has a 6.8 tail, so I would say fairly long? But it looks and feels pretty stubby.

G016 tail is 6.3 so half an inch shorter, which seems kinda extreme.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 28, 2021, 06:29:44 AM
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So I was wondering.

I've been riding Girl G052 for the last month, with Venture 5.6 V-Lights.
The 14" WB is working nicely with them shits.

But I've seen Carl Aikens rocking the G016, which is 8.375. Also with Ventures, buuut the WB on that board is 14.25.

Since the store I was planning to buy from only has the G016 with the Pop Secret tech that I like for durability, should I go for it, or is the 14.25 wb too much? Any experiences with that shape and ventures?

Edit: https://crailtap.com/shapes/#g016
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While I don’t have experience with that particular shape I often run ventures on a 14.25 wheelbase and enjoy it. I’m a short dude and even then the wheelbase doesn’t bother me. I would even say if the tail has enough length it should even it out but I’m riding a board that has a 31.5 length and a short tail so I don’t know anything ha. If anything when I went up from 14 to 14.25 wheelbases my manual tricks feel better
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Thanks for the feedback!

I was also wondering about the tail length, because the G052 has a 6.8 tail, so I would say fairly long? But it looks and feels pretty stubby.

G016 tail is 6.3 so half an inch shorter, which seems kinda extreme.

I think it will be a lot of adjust to: longer wheelbase plus shorter length, coupled with Venture V-Lights is going to give a very short feeling tail.

That said I got a lightly used G016 as an interim deck until my delivery comes in. If i went Ventures I would swap out to a cast baseplate to reduce the wheelbase displacement or Thunders.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 28, 2021, 02:13:37 PM
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So I was wondering.

I've been riding Girl G052 for the last month, with Venture 5.6 V-Lights.
The 14" WB is working nicely with them shits.

But I've seen Carl Aikens rocking the G016, which is 8.375. Also with Ventures, buuut the WB on that board is 14.25.

Since the store I was planning to buy from only has the G016 with the Pop Secret tech that I like for durability, should I go for it, or is the 14.25 wb too much? Any experiences with that shape and ventures?

Edit: https://crailtap.com/shapes/#g016
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While I don’t have experience with that particular shape I often run ventures on a 14.25 wheelbase and enjoy it. I’m a short dude and even then the wheelbase doesn’t bother me. I would even say if the tail has enough length it should even it out but I’m riding a board that has a 31.5 length and a short tail so I don’t know anything ha. If anything when I went up from 14 to 14.25 wheelbases my manual tricks feel better
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Thanks for the feedback!

I was also wondering about the tail length, because the G052 has a 6.8 tail, so I would say fairly long? But it looks and feels pretty stubby.

G016 tail is 6.3 so half an inch shorter, which seems kinda extreme.
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I think it will be a lot of adjust to: longer wheelbase plus shorter length, coupled with Venture V-Lights is going to give a very short feeling tail.

That said I got a lightly used G016 as an interim deck until my delivery comes in. If i went Ventures I would swap out to a cast baseplate to reduce the wheelbase displacement or Thunders.
I would also go with the cast plates but that’s my personal preference.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bunk Moreland on April 28, 2021, 11:36:46 PM
I've ridden ventures my entire nearly 30 years of skateboarding and I've never noticed the wheelbase thing. It's negligible if there's any difference at all.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on April 29, 2021, 07:51:02 AM
I've ridden ventures my entire nearly 30 years of skateboarding and I've never noticed the wheelbase thing. It's negligible if there's any difference at all.
Seriously it's nothing you can't get used to in a couple sessions.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 29, 2021, 08:46:37 AM
It depends on how you wanna skate.

The closer I get to a 15" wb the less my board of wants to spin 360.

This is true with all trucks I've tried.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on April 29, 2021, 09:19:37 AM
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the purpose of replacing the stock top washer with a flat one?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Firebert on April 29, 2021, 09:29:53 AM
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the purpose of replacing the stock top washer with a flat one?
Stock washers can bind the turn when they hit the hangar and flat washers don't.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on April 29, 2021, 09:33:46 AM
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Forgive my ignorance, but what is the purpose of replacing the stock top washer with a flat one?
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Stock washers can bind the turn when they hit the hangar and flat washers don't.

That makes sense. Thanks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on April 29, 2021, 01:53:56 PM
Looking for some success stories on Ventures on a 14.5 wb Any of you homeboys/homegirls have some intel?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: augustmoon on April 29, 2021, 02:51:16 PM
http://www.instagram.com/p/COQcc_qlkQm/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 29, 2021, 02:59:52 PM
Looking for some success stories on Ventures on a 14.5 wb Any of you homeboys/homegirls have some intel?

I've done it and it was totally fine. On 14.38 with ventures right now and it feels perfect, 14.5 is pretty damn close.

Im v tall though so your mileage may vary.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on April 29, 2021, 03:06:21 PM
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Looking for some success stories on Ventures on a 14.5 wb Any of you homeboys/homegirls have some intel?
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I've done it and it was totally fine. On 14.38 with ventures right now and it feels perfect, 14.5 is pretty damn close.

Same.  It's fine.  I'm pretty tall.  I did also swap out to Ace at one point and it didn't make my treflips any better, just my ollies way worse.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on April 29, 2021, 03:53:01 PM
^ Thanks! I will give it a shot..I am trying my best to be a one setup man..but I miss my 6.1s bad.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 29, 2021, 08:05:26 PM
^ Thanks! I will give it a shot..I am trying my best to be a one setup man..but I miss my 6.1s bad.
6.1s add 3.125" to the wheelbase. those are the ventures to ride with a 14.5 wb if any
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on April 29, 2021, 10:57:13 PM
I found I needed harder bushings in the 6.1s to get them to feel like regular (5.0,5.2) width Ventures. Otherwise they were way floppy.

Nothing mad just like a 95a sorted it .
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wonderful Whizzplank on April 30, 2021, 03:04:04 AM
Looking for some success stories on Ventures on a 14.5 wb Any of you homeboys/homegirls have some intel?

I can come close to that?

Got some 6.1s on a Krooked 8.75 (14.625wb) rn, from an AWS 8.75 (14.25wb) cause I felt I need more wheelbase. I adore it, though that might be because my setup in my "prime" was the same board shape on thunder 151's, so this kinda feels like home.
I am tall, but I've not felt any regrets from this setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on April 30, 2021, 04:49:52 AM
Thanks guys.. I have a 9" Polar popsicle with new Aces on it, it's ok but I love Ventures so I'm heading back to where I belong.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: music critic on May 06, 2021, 08:51:57 PM
I don't have the attention to go through all of this thread but...

What other bushings do people put in ventures to get a little more turn?  I've had bad experience with bones but would try again if thats what everyone is running.  After skating new aces for a few weeks and coming back to V's I want just a bit more turn/carve from venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lloyd Braun on May 06, 2021, 09:01:03 PM
Looking for some success stories on Ventures on a 14.5 wb Any of you homeboys/homegirls have some intel?

Thats all I used to skate 2 years ago, Isle and DLX boards mainly. I skated great with them, then I started reading the shoes/gear thread more often and switched to 14.25. TBH for me it doesn't make a huge difference, I just skated a 14.5 3 boards or so ago and 360 flips still worked. For me its mostly all mental, but I don't like changing all the time, I try to skate the same shapes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on May 07, 2021, 12:44:43 AM
I don't have the attention to go through all of this thread but...

What other bushings do people put in ventures to get a little more turn?  I've had bad experience with bones but would try again if thats what everyone is running.  After skating new aces for a few weeks and coming back to V's I want just a bit more turn/carve from venture.

Ace low bushings with flat washer on top. My favorite bushings for venture
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on May 07, 2021, 07:49:43 AM
I don't have the attention to go through all of this thread but...

What other bushings do people put in ventures to get a little more turn?  I've had bad experience with bones but would try again if thats what everyone is running.  After skating new aces for a few weeks and coming back to V's I want just a bit more turn/carve from venture.
Bones medium if you're wanting really turny. Bones hards if you weigh over 160 lbs.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 07, 2021, 08:36:37 AM
im running indy super soft barrel bottoms with shaved stock purple tops (around 7mm). flat washers everywhere and riptides

slight rattle with the looseness and it feels perfect to me in these 5.6s paired with a 14" wheelbase deck
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on May 07, 2021, 09:22:48 AM
Been doing bones tops with Indy barrel bottoms (for more stability and because bones bottom bushings always seem to squish out on me somewhat quickly for some reason) in my venture 5.8s for a while now. Feels damn good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on May 09, 2021, 02:52:33 PM
Does anyone have info on the difference in wheelbase between cast & hollow etc on the low trucks?

For some reason I think the hollow push the wb out even more ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on May 09, 2021, 04:17:18 PM
Yup it's somewhere deep in this thread: forged push WB out more.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 09, 2021, 06:39:01 PM
Does anyone have info on the difference in wheelbase between cast & hollow etc on the low trucks?

For some reason I think the hollow push the wb out even more ?

Cast - +3.25"
Forged - +3.45 - 3.5" depending on truck size

Venture forged displace WB the most among all brands, hence the difficulty to find a deck that pairs perfectly with it, a heaven or hell truck. Going with a cast baseplate reduces the WB extension and put it on par with a Thunder Hollow Light (forged baseplate), but Ventures are a chunkier truck so you're still going to feel the heft.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on May 10, 2021, 07:43:06 AM
They fit my arbor surf cruiser perfectly.....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: antarctica on May 10, 2021, 08:18:21 AM
Had a pair of 5.8 standards that I skated till axle but I want something a lil lighter and narrower should I go with 5.6 v lights?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 10, 2021, 08:22:32 AM
Had a pair of 5.8 standards that I skated till axle but I want something a lil lighter and narrower should I go with 5.6 v lights?

V-Lights for a slight weight reduction, V-Hollow if you really want to feel it, Titanium if you just want to treat yo' self.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 10, 2021, 02:41:30 PM
I like Indy barrel replacement fits for Ventures if bait and tackle can't be found.

The clear bait and tackle = a white Indy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: antarctica on May 10, 2021, 08:09:12 PM
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Had a pair of 5.8 standards that I skated till axle but I want something a lil lighter and narrower should I go with 5.6 v lights?
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V-Lights for a slight weight reduction, V-Hollow if you really want to feel it, Titanium if you just want to treat yo' self.

Thanks man, ended up going with the v-lights, just posted em in the setup thread lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: vicious cycle on May 15, 2021, 10:38:44 AM
Hey folks.
Has anyone ever used ripride cups in venture forged plates ?
I ordered me some, RipTide WFB - 96a Venture.
But they seems to be to big somehow.
They stand out for half an mm over the hole.
Also, to get them in there, I had to make a lill hole with a needle because otherwise the air in the hole made them pop out again..
Seems like the riptide indy cups fit way better. They also have an hole already..
So now I wonder whats going on.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 16, 2021, 09:44:53 AM
Hey folks.
Has anyone ever used ripride cups in venture forged plates ?
I ordered me some, RipTide WFB - 96a Venture.
But they seems to be to big somehow.
They stand out for half an mm over the hole.
Also, to get them in there, I had to make a lill hole with a needle because otherwise the air in the hole made them pop out again..
Seems like the riptide indy cups fit way better. They also have an hole already..
So now I wonder whats going on.
contact riptides and send them pics! They should get you squared away! I have never had any problem like that and I have 5 sets of riptides in my forged venture plates
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on May 18, 2021, 04:17:26 AM
Before yesterday I never would have put my 5.8s on a 14.5” wb deck because you know, science, but I just did it on a whim and it feels great. Best session in a while. I was loving the compact 14” I was on before until I took a good slam and never felt comfortable after that.  The extra space felt great and all my tricks worked (better in most instances.)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 19, 2021, 07:04:18 AM
Before yesterday I never would have put my 5.8s on a 14.5” wb deck because you know, science, but I just did it on a whim and it feels great. Best session in a while. I was loving the compact 14” I was on before until I took a good slam and never felt comfortable after that.  The extra space felt great and all my tricks worked (better in most instances.)

The one set of regular 5.8s I have worked well on my usual 8.38 or 8.5 all with 14.5 wheelbase too, but I didn't do much on that setup.

Also curious as to what brand or feel of concave / angle of kicks deck do you have?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on May 19, 2021, 07:15:32 AM
Before yesterday I never would have put my 5.8s on a 14.5” wb deck because you know, science, but I just did it on a whim and it feels great. Best session in a while. I was loving the compact 14” I was on before until I took a good slam and never felt comfortable after that.  The extra space felt great and all my tricks worked (better in most instances.)

Well that’s good news for me. I just got my first 8.5”/14.5 WB board and I got OG Highs for it. Never ridden Polar or Venture so this is all a shot in the dark for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on May 19, 2021, 08:54:38 AM
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Before yesterday I never would have put my 5.8s on a 14.5” wb deck because you know, science, but I just did it on a whim and it feels great. Best session in a while. I was loving the compact 14” I was on before until I took a good slam and never felt comfortable after that.  The extra space felt great and all my tricks worked (better in most instances.)
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The one set of regular 5.8s I have worked well on my usual 8.38 or 8.5 all with 14.5 wheelbase too, but I didn't do much on that setup.

Also curious as to what brand or feel of concave / angle of kicks deck do you have?

It’s a 8.38 Krooked I received as a gift (my daughter was so proud the deck she picked out, I just had to set it up.) I can’t remember what it was stamped but it’s mellower all around.

A previous attempt at Ventures + 14.5” wb was 6.1 and a steep South Central and that was a disaster.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 20, 2021, 02:33:56 AM
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Before yesterday I never would have put my 5.8s on a 14.5” wb deck because you know, science, but I just did it on a whim and it feels great. Best session in a while. I was loving the compact 14” I was on before until I took a good slam and never felt comfortable after that.  The extra space felt great and all my tricks worked (better in most instances.)
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The one set of regular 5.8s I have worked well on my usual 8.38 or 8.5 all with 14.5 wheelbase too, but I didn't do much on that setup.

Also curious as to what brand or feel of concave / angle of kicks deck do you have?
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It’s a 8.38 Krooked I received as a gift (my daughter was so proud the deck she picked out, I just had to set it up.) I can’t remember what it was stamped but it’s mellower all around.

A previous attempt at Ventures + 14.5” wb was 6.1 and a steep South Central and that was a disaster.

Yes, same board really, especially IV or even III if I can find them, but more mellow means more comfortable for me too.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 24, 2021, 11:50:35 AM
got vlight and vhollow 6.1s for sale in near new condition with stock bushings if anyone is interested. dont ride boards that big anymore
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on May 24, 2021, 12:08:04 PM
anyone ride 6.1 on an antihero 8.75 (14.6 wb)?

I ride classic ACE 55 on an 8.75 shop deck now. I am looking for a less surfy setup as I moved away from my normal bowl park.

I watched ben degros video about venture and wheelbase and am confused as to whether im going to get more or less pop from a setup like this... but likely over thinking it

A lot of this is down to personal preference if we're going to be honest.
I currently ride ace but have ridden and enjoyed ventures. Switching to venture will make your turn a bit more delayed and should make your board more stable (less surfy) unless you ride rattle loose. When I switched to ventures on the same deck as I rode ace on the pop was stiffer due to the sharper pop angle of the ventures and that felt really good for most of my flatground aside from 360 flips.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on May 24, 2021, 03:03:13 PM
Hey folks.
Has anyone ever used ripride cups in venture forged plates ?
I ordered me some, RipTide WFB - 96a Venture.
But they seems to be to big somehow.
They stand out for half an mm over the hole.
Also, to get them in there, I had to make a lill hole with a needle because otherwise the air in the hole made them pop out again..
Seems like the riptide indy cups fit way better. They also have an hole already..
So now I wonder whats going on.

Had the RipTide Cups in my 5.6s hollows and they fit perfectly and I had zero hassle with them. So I'd just contact RipTide...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on May 26, 2021, 07:22:09 AM
I know this got mentioned a few pages back, but is it true that 6.1s have different geometry and can anyone who has skated them comment on how it differs?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lukepat on May 26, 2021, 08:31:41 AM
I know this got mentioned a few pages back, but is it true that 6.1s have different geometry and can anyone who has skated them comment on how it differs?
Been skating 6.1s for about a month after reading they were different geometry from other Ventures. I believe it comes from just shorter wheelbase extension. Normal cast plates usually 3.25” extension. 6.1’s bring WB extension out 3.125”.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 26, 2021, 09:27:38 AM
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I know this got mentioned a few pages back, but is it true that 6.1s have different geometry and can anyone who has skated them comment on how it differs?
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Been skating 6.1s for about a month after reading they were different geometry from other Ventures. I believe it comes from just shorter wheelbase extension. Normal cast plates usually 3.25” extension. 6.1’s bring WB extension out 3.125”.
i found +3.125 cast and +3.25 forged
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on May 26, 2021, 12:49:22 PM
Would it be nuts to stick my 5.0 lo hollow on an 8 inch deck?

Too much magic carpet I bet ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on May 26, 2021, 01:46:37 PM
Would it be nuts to stick my 5.0 lo hollow on an 8 inch deck?

Too much magic carpet I bet ?

Use 3 speed rings on both axle insides and you're good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 26, 2021, 08:44:56 PM
Would it be nuts to stick my 5.0 lo hollow on an 8 inch deck?

Too much magic carpet I bet ?

I think it would tre and impossible like a dream. I put old thunder 7.5 trucks on an 8 for a few weeks. Was fine. I blew my acl skating a bowl tho. Went and copped new trucks while I was skipping pt.
.I regret skating through my injury but I'm not supposed to be alive and semi healthy today.

I'd frickin skate whatever I gotta to keep going till Death at this point.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lamfordie on May 27, 2021, 12:16:04 PM
Whats up with them making the hollow lights in 6.1 but not in the 5.8?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on May 27, 2021, 01:21:09 PM
Whats up with them making the hollow lights in 6.1 but not in the 5.8?

(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring21/ve-sp21-d1-05-polished.jpg)
They do.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 27, 2021, 01:40:29 PM
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Whats up with them making the hollow lights in 6.1 but not in the 5.8?
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(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring21/ve-sp21-d1-05-polished.jpg)
They do.
they just dont bother to ever release em
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on May 27, 2021, 05:06:57 PM
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Whats up with them making the hollow lights in 6.1 but not in the 5.8?
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(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring21/ve-sp21-d1-05-polished.jpg)
They do.
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they just dont bother to ever release em
So they’re cool guying us. Et tu, venture?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 27, 2021, 10:24:46 PM
There have been very limited releases of most stuff since the closures due to covid, but some lines have not been made yet, so you would be waiting indefinitely for some products.

That and others that are made sell out so fast you might not even know it has been out.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on May 27, 2021, 11:21:27 PM
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Whats up with them making the hollow lights in 6.1 but not in the 5.8?
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(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring21/ve-sp21-d1-05-polished.jpg)
They do.
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they just dont bother to ever release em

I've never seen the titaniums for sale anywhere..... Ever

Any pals have 5.2 low Tis? They wanna sell ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CaderSk8r on May 28, 2021, 01:33:25 PM
If anyones curious about thunder bushings fitting in ventures, they do and they feel sweet!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on May 31, 2021, 08:35:48 AM
Anybody know the durometer of the stock bushings for Ventures? I swear I saw it in here, but now I can’t find it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on May 31, 2021, 08:46:42 AM
Anybody know the durometer of the stock bushings for Ventures? I swear I saw it in here, but now I can’t find it.

Stock bushings are 90a, just like most truck brands.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on May 31, 2021, 09:10:58 AM
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Anybody know the durometer of the stock bushings for Ventures? I swear I saw it in here, but now I can’t find it.
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Stock bushings are 90a, just like most truck brands.

Thank you.

(https://media2.giphy.com/media/3oEjHGnY8oB4BHVTP2/200.gif)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on May 31, 2021, 09:52:03 AM
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Would it be nuts to stick my 5.0 lo hollow on an 8 inch deck?

Too much magic carpet I bet ?
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Use 3 speed rings on both axle insides and you're good.

Dude

Thank you

This is the perfect pairing. Honestly I think this is the best setup I've ever skated. It just works.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sonny Paluso on June 01, 2021, 03:49:23 PM
Was running some cupped washers, guessing that's what blew them our. Were really good though. Soft bones.(https://i.ibb.co/drG9wyH/20210601-134038.jpg) (https://ibb.co/drG9wyH)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 02, 2021, 07:23:14 AM
Was running some cupped washers, guessing that's what blew them our. Were really good though. Soft bones.

(https://i.ibb.co/drG9wyH/20210601-134038.jpg) (https://ibb.co/drG9wyH)

No that is just Bones bushings to a tee, any truck, any combination and that can happen.

Everything else that Powell / Bones makes are usually top of the line and really good, but Bones bushings blow out way to often, too easily and too quickly with the harder inner core either coming away from or just pulling through the softer middle of the bushings, more so in the soft than any others.

Running them with normal washers actually helps them last a bit longer in some circumstances, but this would be the sort of pic I would show people who would ask for Bones bushings and if they still want some, buy them at your own risk.

That said, some people love them and swear by them, but I have seen far too many end up in pieces, sometimes even on the first day, than I would ever like to say and have a long shoe lace full of all the broken ones for show and tell.


Mediums or even hards when not tightened down actually skate better than the soft ones for most people, the exception being the super feather weights or small bodies, and then the softs work really well.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 02, 2021, 07:45:11 AM
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Was running some cupped washers, guessing that's what blew them our. Were really good though. Soft bones.

(https://i.ibb.co/drG9wyH/20210601-134038.jpg) (https://ibb.co/drG9wyH)
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No that is just Bones bushings to a tee, any truck, any combination and that can happen.

Everything else that Powell / Bones makes are usually top of the line and really good, but Bones bushings blow out way to often, too easily and too quickly with the harder inner core either coming away from or just pulling through the softer middle of the bushings, more so in the soft than any others.

Running them with normal washers actually helps them last a bit longer in some circumstances, but this would be the sort of pic I would show people who would ask for Bones bushings and if they still want some, buy them at your own risk.

That said, some people love them and swear by them, but I have seen far too many end up in pieces, sometimes even on the first day, than I would ever like to say and have a long shoe lace full of all the broken ones for show and tell.


Mediums or even hards when not tightened down actually skate better than the soft ones for most people, the exception being the super feather weights or small bodies, and then the softs work really well.

Accurate. Hands, not cranked, have lasted the longest and feel the ‘snappiest’ for me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sonny Paluso on June 02, 2021, 08:40:27 AM
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Was running some cupped washers, guessing that's what blew them our. Were really good though. Soft bones.

(https://i.ibb.co/drG9wyH/20210601-134038.jpg) (https://ibb.co/drG9wyH)
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No that is just Bones bushings to a tee, any truck, any combination and that can happen.

Everything else that Powell / Bones makes are usually top of the line and really good, but Bones bushings blow out way to often, too easily and too quickly with the harder inner core either coming away from or just pulling through the softer middle of the bushings, more so in the soft than any others.

Running them with normal washers actually helps them last a bit longer in some circumstances, but this would be the sort of pic I would show people who would ask for Bones bushings and if they still want some, buy them at your own risk.

That said, some people love them and swear by them, but I have seen far too many end up in pieces, sometimes even on the first day, than I would ever like to say and have a long shoe lace full of all the broken ones for show and tell.


Mediums or even hards when not tightened down actually skate better than the soft ones for most people, the exception being the super feather weights or small bodies, and then the softs work really well.

Thanks for the info. Never had them blow out like that. May try some soft Indy bushings instead.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on June 02, 2021, 09:20:39 AM
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Was running some cupped washers, guessing that's what blew them our. Were really good though. Soft bones.

(https://i.ibb.co/drG9wyH/20210601-134038.jpg) (https://ibb.co/drG9wyH)
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No that is just Bones bushings to a tee, any truck, any combination and that can happen.

Everything else that Powell / Bones makes are usually top of the line and really good, but Bones bushings blow out way to often, too easily and too quickly with the harder inner core either coming away from or just pulling through the softer middle of the bushings, more so in the soft than any others.

Running them with normal washers actually helps them last a bit longer in some circumstances, but this would be the sort of pic I would show people who would ask for Bones bushings and if they still want some, buy them at your own risk.

That said, some people love them and swear by them, but I have seen far too many end up in pieces, sometimes even on the first day, than I would ever like to say and have a long shoe lace full of all the broken ones for show and tell.


Mediums or even hards when not tightened down actually skate better than the soft ones for most people, the exception being the super feather weights or small bodies, and then the softs work really well.
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Thanks for the info. Never had them blow out like that. May try some soft Indy bushings instead.

Indy red conical, no bottom washer, bones top washer. Feels exactly the same after a sesh or two.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 02, 2021, 09:26:30 AM
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Was running some cupped washers, guessing that's what blew them our. Were really good though. Soft bones.

(https://i.ibb.co/drG9wyH/20210601-134038.jpg) (https://ibb.co/drG9wyH)
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No that is just Bones bushings to a tee, any truck, any combination and that can happen.

Everything else that Powell / Bones makes are usually top of the line and really good, but Bones bushings blow out way to often, too easily and too quickly with the harder inner core either coming away from or just pulling through the softer middle of the bushings, more so in the soft than any others.

Running them with normal washers actually helps them last a bit longer in some circumstances, but this would be the sort of pic I would show people who would ask for Bones bushings and if they still want some, buy them at your own risk.

That said, some people love them and swear by them, but I have seen far too many end up in pieces, sometimes even on the first day, than I would ever like to say and have a long shoe lace full of all the broken ones for show and tell.


Mediums or even hards when not tightened down actually skate better than the soft ones for most people, the exception being the super feather weights or small bodies, and then the softs work really well.
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Thanks for the info. Never had them blow out like that. May try some soft Indy bushings instead.

How much do you weigh and how much turn do you want, eg crazy loose, loose, medium?

Indy bushings do tend to last the longest from my experience, but finding the right one for you can be the thing, eg super soft white are so soft and squishy to me, but I know quite a few people swear by them.  The next up is quite a jump, red soft often feel quite solid by comparison.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 02, 2021, 10:30:52 AM
Uncle Flea uses indy bushings I think....he might have a recommendation.
In my experience I can get just as much turn out of hard bushings (up until a point I’m sure, I’ve had some doh-doh era rocks). I like the feeling of firmness and a quicker rebound. You may not. Just a thought
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sonny Paluso on June 02, 2021, 04:18:41 PM
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Was running some cupped washers, guessing that's what blew them our. Were really good though. Soft bones.

(https://i.ibb.co/drG9wyH/20210601-134038.jpg) (https://ibb.co/drG9wyH)
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No that is just Bones bushings to a tee, any truck, any combination and that can happen.

Everything else that Powell / Bones makes are usually top of the line and really good, but Bones bushings blow out way to often, too easily and too quickly with the harder inner core either coming away from or just pulling through the softer middle of the bushings, more so in the soft than any others.

Running them with normal washers actually helps them last a bit longer in some circumstances, but this would be the sort of pic I would show people who would ask for Bones bushings and if they still want some, buy them at your own risk.

That said, some people love them and swear by them, but I have seen far too many end up in pieces, sometimes even on the first day, than I would ever like to say and have a long shoe lace full of all the broken ones for show and tell.


Mediums or even hards when not tightened down actually skate better than the soft ones for most people, the exception being the super feather weights or small bodies, and then the softs work really well.
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Thanks for the info. Never had them blow out like that. May try some soft Indy bushings instead.
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How much do you weigh and how much turn do you want, eg crazy loose, loose, medium?

Indy bushings do tend to last the longest from my experience, but finding the right one for you can be the thing, eg super soft white are so soft and squishy to me, but I know quite a few people swear by them.  The next up is quite a jump, red soft often feel quite solid by comparison.

220. As much turn as possible. Ended up throwing old sanded down hard bones top and cupped top washer. Doesn't feel too much different. Hopefully will withstand another blowout
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on June 08, 2021, 04:41:02 AM
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/dailydose.html

Raw Venture Highs 5.2, 5.6 and 5.8 almost half price.




So glad I made the switch to Venture last year. Was on ACE for a while but all the changes/updates are too much for me.

Wow. That's a very reasonable deal. I grabbed a set for when my thunders are ran through. If anyone was curious basic US shipping was $4.95 my total with tax was $41 and some change.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 08, 2021, 05:22:55 AM
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https://www.skatewarehouse.com/dailydose.html

Raw Venture Highs 5.2, 5.6 and 5.8 almost half price.




So glad I made the switch to Venture last year. Was on ACE for a while but all the changes/updates are too much for me.
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Wow. That's a very reasonable deal. I grabbed a set for when my thunders are ran through. If anyone was curious basic US shipping was $4.95 my total with tax was $41 and some change.

Figured I just got some OG Highs. I can’t find any specs on these though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 08, 2021, 05:17:54 PM
Indy bushings work out nice for sure.

Eric Dressen rides or rode the white super soft too. I thought that was kinda cool. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shpongle on June 20, 2021, 11:38:59 PM
anybody know of rippers or pros that are tranny skaters who skate on ventures? curious about ventures. wanting to try them but i skate mostly bowls n heard the turn is tick tacky?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 21, 2021, 01:36:41 AM
anybody know of rippers or pros that are tranny skaters who skate on ventures? curious about ventures. wanting to try them but i skate mostly bowls n heard the turn is tick tacky?

Even though you might not see many dudes with Ventures skating tranny, most of them can shred it, but one that comes to mind is Mike Anderson, maybe more well known for street stuff and switch tricks, but he can definitely shred tranny well too.

https://www.instagram.com/mikeanderson/

Almost too many clips to post from here, but if you look through, there are some amazing ones, so just leaving this one for you for now:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CCgoP74gD6g/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CaderSk8r on June 21, 2021, 12:57:00 PM
Yuto skates tranny on venture los
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on June 21, 2021, 01:01:51 PM
John Shanahan has a bunch of recent Instagram clips skating vert on ventures.

From personal experience I’ve actually really enjoyed ventures in bowls and tranny. Nice to have some extra stability. With flat top washers the turn feels great
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Movies on June 22, 2021, 11:53:08 PM
I've been on Venture low 5.2's for a long while but I'm looking to size up my whole setup. Thinking about moving to 5.6 or 5.8 and just wondering if anyone has many experience going from lows to highs. Is the geometry pretty much the same except for the height? Does the turn feel really different?

Looking forward to being able to ride a little looser without the wheelbite.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 23, 2021, 12:46:45 AM
I've been on Venture low 5.2's for a long while but I'm looking to size up my whole setup. Thinking about moving to 5.6 or 5.8 and just wondering if anyone has many experience going from lows to highs. Is the geometry pretty much the same except for the height? Does the turn feel really different?

Looking forward to being able to ride a little looser without the wheelbite.

5.2L are my all time favorite truck for 8" boards specially on board that were long with a short wheelbase, Goldilocks setup was 8 x 32 x 14. Eventually sized up to 8.25" boards and wanted to bring the same Venture feel over, but I've yet to recreate the same success (hefy but floaty pop) even on boards with roughly similar dimensions (8.25 x 31.9 x 14.125).

5.2L have an incredible pinch on ledges, my Smith and Crooked grinds never felt better, but doesn't translate as well to the 5.6, even with cast or forged baseplates.

Turning geometry remains similar but I'm used to not carving, only tick tacking (2000s skater).

Threw a lot of deck dimension combinations at the 5.6 but they just never felt as good as the 5.2L. Really wanted to love them more; I have a pair of V-Hollows and Titanium in 5.6. Excellent pinch but the height and wheelbase displacement are too much for my tired old legs.

To combat my madness I've decided to stick to Thunder 148 on 8.25" decks, 5.2L on 8 - 8.125" decks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Movies on June 23, 2021, 02:27:48 AM
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I've been on Venture low 5.2's for a long while but I'm looking to size up my whole setup. Thinking about moving to 5.6 or 5.8 and just wondering if anyone has many experience going from lows to highs. Is the geometry pretty much the same except for the height? Does the turn feel really different?

Looking forward to being able to ride a little looser without the wheelbite.
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5.2L are my all time favorite truck for 8" boards specially on board that were long with a short wheelbase, Goldilocks setup was 8 x 32 x 14. Eventually sized up to 8.25" boards and wanted to bring the same Venture feel over, but I've yet to recreate the same success (hefy but floaty pop) even on boards with roughly similar dimensions (8.25 x 31.9 x 14.125).

5.2L have an incredible pinch on ledges, my Smith and Crooked grinds never felt better, but doesn't translate as well to the 5.6, even with cast or forged baseplates.

Turning geometry remains similar but I'm used to not carving, only tick tacking (2000s skater).

Threw a lot of deck dimension combinations at the 5.6 but they just never felt as good as the 5.2L. Really wanted to love them more; I have a pair of V-Hollows and Titanium in 5.6. Excellent pinch but the height and wheelbase displacement are too much for my tired old legs.

To combat my madness I've decided to stick to Thunder 148 on 8.25" decks, 5.2L on 8 - 8.125" decks.

Dude, that's fucking great insight. Thank you. I have been a bit worried about the extra heft and harder pop if sizing up on a long wheelbase truck like Ventures. I'm also from the before times, so an 8" with low Ventures feels like home to me. I always try to stick with a 14" WB or 14.25 max. It definitely worries me to think about riding Ventures on a 14.38 - 14.5 WB deck. Not sure I have the strength to handle a beautiful beast like that. Maybe I'll look into Thunders as a compromise. Thanks again man.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on June 23, 2021, 03:09:19 AM
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I've been on Venture low 5.2's for a long while but I'm looking to size up my whole setup. Thinking about moving to 5.6 or 5.8 and just wondering if anyone has many experience going from lows to highs. Is the geometry pretty much the same except for the height? Does the turn feel really different?

Looking forward to being able to ride a little looser without the wheelbite.
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5.2L are my all time favorite truck for 8" boards specially on board that were long with a short wheelbase, Goldilocks setup was 8 x 32 x 14. Eventually sized up to 8.25" boards and wanted to bring the same Venture feel over, but I've yet to recreate the same success (hefy but floaty pop) even on boards with roughly similar dimensions (8.25 x 31.9 x 14.125).

5.2L have an incredible pinch on ledges, my Smith and Crooked grinds never felt better, but doesn't translate as well to the 5.6, even with cast or forged baseplates.

Turning geometry remains similar but I'm used to not carving, only tick tacking (2000s skater).

Threw a lot of deck dimension combinations at the 5.6 but they just never felt as good as the 5.2L. Really wanted to love them more; I have a pair of V-Hollows and Titanium in 5.6. Excellent pinch but the height and wheelbase displacement are too much for my tired old legs.

To combat my madness I've decided to stick to Thunder 148 on 8.25" decks, 5.2L on 8 - 8.125" decks.
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Dude, that's fucking great insight. Thank you. I have been a bit worried about the extra heft and harder pop if sizing up on a long wheelbase truck like Ventures. I'm also from the before times, so an 8" with low Ventures feels like home to me. I always try to stick with a 14" WB or 14.25 max. It definitely worries me to think about riding Ventures on a 14.38 - 14.5 WB deck. Not sure I have the strength to handle a beautiful beast like that. Maybe I'll look into Thunders as a compromise. Thanks again man.
if you arent looking to size up past 8.5 theres no issue finding 14.25 wb decks with a few sprinklings of 14.0, 14.125, & 14.18s.

do you know what width youre looking for?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Movies on June 23, 2021, 03:30:16 AM
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I've been on Venture low 5.2's for a long while but I'm looking to size up my whole setup. Thinking about moving to 5.6 or 5.8 and just wondering if anyone has many experience going from lows to highs. Is the geometry pretty much the same except for the height? Does the turn feel really different?

Looking forward to being able to ride a little looser without the wheelbite.
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5.2L are my all time favorite truck for 8" boards specially on board that were long with a short wheelbase, Goldilocks setup was 8 x 32 x 14. Eventually sized up to 8.25" boards and wanted to bring the same Venture feel over, but I've yet to recreate the same success (hefy but floaty pop) even on boards with roughly similar dimensions (8.25 x 31.9 x 14.125).

5.2L have an incredible pinch on ledges, my Smith and Crooked grinds never felt better, but doesn't translate as well to the 5.6, even with cast or forged baseplates.

Turning geometry remains similar but I'm used to not carving, only tick tacking (2000s skater).

Threw a lot of deck dimension combinations at the 5.6 but they just never felt as good as the 5.2L. Really wanted to love them more; I have a pair of V-Hollows and Titanium in 5.6. Excellent pinch but the height and wheelbase displacement are too much for my tired old legs.

To combat my madness I've decided to stick to Thunder 148 on 8.25" decks, 5.2L on 8 - 8.125" decks.
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Dude, that's fucking great insight. Thank you. I have been a bit worried about the extra heft and harder pop if sizing up on a long wheelbase truck like Ventures. I'm also from the before times, so an 8" with low Ventures feels like home to me. I always try to stick with a 14" WB or 14.25 max. It definitely worries me to think about riding Ventures on a 14.38 - 14.5 WB deck. Not sure I have the strength to handle a beautiful beast like that. Maybe I'll look into Thunders as a compromise. Thanks again man.
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if you arent looking to size up past 8.5 theres no issue finding 14.25 wb decks with a few sprinklings of 14.0, 14.125, & 14.18s.

do you know what width youre looking for?

I'm thinking minimum 8.25, maximum 8.5. I know Crail has lots of wider boards with a smaller wheelbase but not sure who else. I saw a Maxallure 8.5 recently that had a short wheelbase but I don't know if that shape is in their regular lineup. Crails mellow kicks might pair nicely with a set of tall Ventures?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on June 23, 2021, 04:48:47 AM
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I've been on Venture low 5.2's for a long while but I'm looking to size up my whole setup. Thinking about moving to 5.6 or 5.8 and just wondering if anyone has many experience going from lows to highs. Is the geometry pretty much the same except for the height? Does the turn feel really different?

Looking forward to being able to ride a little looser without the wheelbite.
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5.2L are my all time favorite truck for 8" boards specially on board that were long with a short wheelbase, Goldilocks setup was 8 x 32 x 14. Eventually sized up to 8.25" boards and wanted to bring the same Venture feel over, but I've yet to recreate the same success (hefy but floaty pop) even on boards with roughly similar dimensions (8.25 x 31.9 x 14.125).

5.2L have an incredible pinch on ledges, my Smith and Crooked grinds never felt better, but doesn't translate as well to the 5.6, even with cast or forged baseplates.

Turning geometry remains similar but I'm used to not carving, only tick tacking (2000s skater).

Threw a lot of deck dimension combinations at the 5.6 but they just never felt as good as the 5.2L. Really wanted to love them more; I have a pair of V-Hollows and Titanium in 5.6. Excellent pinch but the height and wheelbase displacement are too much for my tired old legs.

To combat my madness I've decided to stick to Thunder 148 on 8.25" decks, 5.2L on 8 - 8.125" decks.
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Dude, that's fucking great insight. Thank you. I have been a bit worried about the extra heft and harder pop if sizing up on a long wheelbase truck like Ventures. I'm also from the before times, so an 8" with low Ventures feels like home to me. I always try to stick with a 14" WB or 14.25 max. It definitely worries me to think about riding Ventures on a 14.38 - 14.5 WB deck. Not sure I have the strength to handle a beautiful beast like that. Maybe I'll look into Thunders as a compromise. Thanks again man.
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if you arent looking to size up past 8.5 theres no issue finding 14.25 wb decks with a few sprinklings of 14.0, 14.125, & 14.18s.

do you know what width youre looking for?
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I'm thinking minimum 8.25, maximum 8.5. I know Crail has lots of wider boards with a smaller wheelbase but not sure who else. I saw a Maxallure 8.5 recently that had a short wheelbase but I don't know if that shape is in their regular lineup. Crails mellow kicks might pair nicely with a set of tall Ventures?

I'm riding a polar 8.25x31.8x14.1 with a set of 5.6hi currently and highly recommend it. I've done a 8.25 girl deck with them before also and that was pretty good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 23, 2021, 08:11:43 AM
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I've been on Venture low 5.2's for a long while but I'm looking to size up my whole setup. Thinking about moving to 5.6 or 5.8 and just wondering if anyone has many experience going from lows to highs. Is the geometry pretty much the same except for the height? Does the turn feel really different?

Looking forward to being able to ride a little looser without the wheelbite.
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5.2L are my all time favorite truck for 8" boards specially on board that were long with a short wheelbase, Goldilocks setup was 8 x 32 x 14. Eventually sized up to 8.25" boards and wanted to bring the same Venture feel over, but I've yet to recreate the same success (hefy but floaty pop) even on boards with roughly similar dimensions (8.25 x 31.9 x 14.125).

5.2L have an incredible pinch on ledges, my Smith and Crooked grinds never felt better, but doesn't translate as well to the 5.6, even with cast or forged baseplates.

Turning geometry remains similar but I'm used to not carving, only tick tacking (2000s skater).

Threw a lot of deck dimension combinations at the 5.6 but they just never felt as good as the 5.2L. Really wanted to love them more; I have a pair of V-Hollows and Titanium in 5.6. Excellent pinch but the height and wheelbase displacement are too much for my tired old legs.

To combat my madness I've decided to stick to Thunder 148 on 8.25" decks, 5.2L on 8 - 8.125" decks.
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Dude, that's fucking great insight. Thank you. I have been a bit worried about the extra heft and harder pop if sizing up on a long wheelbase truck like Ventures. I'm also from the before times, so an 8" with low Ventures feels like home to me. I always try to stick with a 14" WB or 14.25 max. It definitely worries me to think about riding Ventures on a 14.38 - 14.5 WB deck. Not sure I have the strength to handle a beautiful beast like that. Maybe I'll look into Thunders as a compromise. Thanks again man.
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if you arent looking to size up past 8.5 theres no issue finding 14.25 wb decks with a few sprinklings of 14.0, 14.125, & 14.18s.

do you know what width youre looking for?
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I'm thinking minimum 8.25, maximum 8.5. I know Crail has lots of wider boards with a smaller wheelbase but not sure who else. I saw a Maxallure 8.5 recently that had a short wheelbase but I don't know if that shape is in their regular lineup. Crails mellow kicks might pair nicely with a set of tall Ventures?
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I'm riding a polar 8.25x31.8x14.1 with a set of 5.6hi currently and highly recommend it. I've done a 8.25 girl deck with them before also and that was pretty good.

Ventures really excel at short WB decks coupled with a longer length and medium concave. Recently tried Venture 5.6 Titanium on a Blind (yeah I know) with 8.38 x 32.2 x 14.25 and steep kicks, though the added length would compensate for the longer wheelbase. Didn't have a great time on both forged and cast baseplates, but I will miss that baseplate slide. Swapped out to Thunder 148 and the deck feels so much livelier on the pop and flick. Minor decrease in pinch but my flip tricks (probably my worst aspect) were responsive when I need them to be, especially for leverage tricks like FS Flips and Hardflips.

Again YMMV.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on June 23, 2021, 09:14:36 AM
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I've been on Venture low 5.2's for a long while but I'm looking to size up my whole setup. Thinking about moving to 5.6 or 5.8 and just wondering if anyone has many experience going from lows to highs. Is the geometry pretty much the same except for the height? Does the turn feel really different?

Looking forward to being able to ride a little looser without the wheelbite.
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5.2L are my all time favorite truck for 8" boards specially on board that were long with a short wheelbase, Goldilocks setup was 8 x 32 x 14. Eventually sized up to 8.25" boards and wanted to bring the same Venture feel over, but I've yet to recreate the same success (hefy but floaty pop) even on boards with roughly similar dimensions (8.25 x 31.9 x 14.125).

5.2L have an incredible pinch on ledges, my Smith and Crooked grinds never felt better, but doesn't translate as well to the 5.6, even with cast or forged baseplates.

Turning geometry remains similar but I'm used to not carving, only tick tacking (2000s skater).

Threw a lot of deck dimension combinations at the 5.6 but they just never felt as good as the 5.2L. Really wanted to love them more; I have a pair of V-Hollows and Titanium in 5.6. Excellent pinch but the height and wheelbase displacement are too much for my tired old legs.

To combat my madness I've decided to stick to Thunder 148 on 8.25" decks, 5.2L on 8 - 8.125" decks.
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Dude, that's fucking great insight. Thank you. I have been a bit worried about the extra heft and harder pop if sizing up on a long wheelbase truck like Ventures. I'm also from the before times, so an 8" with low Ventures feels like home to me. I always try to stick with a 14" WB or 14.25 max. It definitely worries me to think about riding Ventures on a 14.38 - 14.5 WB deck. Not sure I have the strength to handle a beautiful beast like that. Maybe I'll look into Thunders as a compromise. Thanks again man.
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if you arent looking to size up past 8.5 theres no issue finding 14.25 wb decks with a few sprinklings of 14.0, 14.125, & 14.18s.

do you know what width youre looking for?
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I'm thinking minimum 8.25, maximum 8.5. I know Crail has lots of wider boards with a smaller wheelbase but not sure who else. I saw a Maxallure 8.5 recently that had a short wheelbase but I don't know if that shape is in their regular lineup. Crails mellow kicks might pair nicely with a set of tall Ventures?
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I'm riding a polar 8.25x31.8x14.1 with a set of 5.6hi currently and highly recommend it. I've done a 8.25 girl deck with them before also and that was pretty good.
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Ventures really excel at short WB decks coupled with a longer length and medium concave. Recently tried Venture 5.6 Titanium on a Blind (yeah I know) with 8.38 x 32.2 x 14.25 and steep kicks, though the added length would compensate for the longer wheelbase. Didn't have a great time on both forged and cast baseplates, but I will miss that baseplate slide. Swapped out to Thunder 148 and the deck feels so much livelier on the pop and flick. Minor decrease in pinch but my flip tricks (probably my worst aspect) were responsive when I need them to be, especially for leverage tricks like FS Flips and Hardflips.

Again YMMV.
@Movies heres my recommendations
fa/hockey 8.38/31.75/14.18
fa/hockey 8.5/31.9/14.25
quasi 8.5/31.75/14.25
scumco 8.5/31.75/14.0

cant get down with mellow kicks and/or 32"+ boards, but ventures with sub 32" boards and steepish kicks is my go to.

i do understand the idea though, mellow kicks + venture = feels like an indy.....venture + longer board = shortens the nose and tail.

as long as the wheelbase is between 14.0-14.25 my 5.6s have been golden. forged plates for 14-14.125 wb and cast for 14.18-14.25
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Movies on June 23, 2021, 10:29:26 AM
Thanks @Paperclip20 @rocklobster @off
   Just ordered a Quasi 8.5 and some 5.8 standards. Will report back.

Cheers fellas, thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on June 23, 2021, 10:42:31 AM
had to make a call today to make sure my eyes werent deceiving me

skate warehouse has 5.8 v-hollows in stock and plenty of em. dont buy them all in one go now

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Venture_V-Hollow_AP_High_Truck/descpage-VTHPHTR.html
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on June 23, 2021, 01:01:00 PM
Thanks @Paperclip20 @rocklobster @off
   Just ordered a Quasi 8.5 and some 5.8 standards. Will report back.

Cheers fellas, thanks for the advice.

That should be fun, enjoy!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 23, 2021, 08:46:14 PM
I've been on Venture low 5.2's for a long while but I'm looking to size up my whole setup. Thinking about moving to 5.6 or 5.8 and just wondering if anyone has many experience going from lows to highs. Is the geometry pretty much the same except for the height? Does the turn feel really different?

Looking forward to being able to ride a little looser without the wheelbite.

Get the 5.6 hollow. It's lower.

https://youtu.be/8iDkw_nM-_M

Rides ventures in transition
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 23, 2021, 09:38:13 PM
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I've been on Venture low 5.2's for a long while but I'm looking to size up my whole setup. Thinking about moving to 5.6 or 5.8 and just wondering if anyone has many experience going from lows to highs. Is the geometry pretty much the same except for the height? Does the turn feel really different?

Looking forward to being able to ride a little looser without the wheelbite.
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Get the 5.6 hollow. It's lower.

https://youtu.be/8iDkw_nM-_M

Rides ventures in transition

Goddamn.
What’s his setup at this time? I reckon 8-8.25 board, short, 5.2 hi’s, and like 56-58s….
Anyways
That part/era is so pleasing
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 23, 2021, 11:00:21 PM
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I've been on Venture low 5.2's for a long while but I'm looking to size up my whole setup. Thinking about moving to 5.6 or 5.8 and just wondering if anyone has many experience going from lows to highs. Is the geometry pretty much the same except for the height? Does the turn feel really different?

Looking forward to being able to ride a little looser without the wheelbite.
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Get the 5.6 hollow. It's lower.

https://youtu.be/8iDkw_nM-_M

Rides ventures in transition
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Goddamn.
What’s his setup at this time? I reckon 8-8.25 board, short, 5.2 hi’s, and like 56-58s….
Anyways
That part/era is so pleasing

I have a set of his old Venture hi 5.8 trucks from when he was here in Australia.

Never had or saw any other wide Ventures back then and I think he even said they were really hard to get sometimes.

His usual setup when he wasn't riding the big shaped decks (as per about 1:23 in that clip) was roughly 8.5 or a touch less, Venture 5.8 (until he changed to Indy) with the Spitfire 59mm bighead wheels, which was nuts when you think about it, no risers and solid wheelbite, but I got used to the same wheels on my boards with minimal rubber risers under my trucks, usually Indy.

The 59mm wheels were so big and definitely felt nicer once worn down a whole lot or more so the 56 classic or 57mm bigheads size from new.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on June 24, 2021, 01:12:09 AM
had to make a call today to make sure my eyes werent deceiving me

skate warehouse has 5.8 v-hollows in stock and plenty of em. dont buy them all in one go now

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Venture_V-Hollow_AP_High_Truck/descpage-VTHPHTR.html

sooooo bummed. 5.8 hollows or titaniums are nowhere to be found in europe. sucks so much.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 24, 2021, 01:13:42 AM
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/en/wiki/skateboarding/skateboard-wiki/trucks/

The page is outdated but they have listings of truck heights if you guys are into that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 24, 2021, 06:30:26 AM
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I've been on Venture low 5.2's for a long while but I'm looking to size up my whole setup. Thinking about moving to 5.6 or 5.8 and just wondering if anyone has many experience going from lows to highs. Is the geometry pretty much the same except for the height? Does the turn feel really different?

Looking forward to being able to ride a little looser without the wheelbite.
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Get the 5.6 hollow. It's lower.

https://youtu.be/8iDkw_nM-_M

Rides ventures in transition
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Goddamn.
What’s his setup at this time? I reckon 8-8.25 board, short, 5.2 hi’s, and like 56-58s….
Anyways
That part/era is so pleasing
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I have a set of his old Venture hi 5.8 trucks from when he was here in Australia.

Never had or saw any other wide Ventures back then and I think he even said they were really hard to get sometimes.

His usual setup when he wasn't riding the big shaped decks (as per about 1:23 in that clip) was roughly 8.5 or a touch less, Venture 5.8 (until he changed to Indy) with the Spitfire 59mm bighead wheels, which was nuts when you think about it, no risers and solid wheelbite, but I got used to the same wheels on my boards with minimal rubber risers under my trucks, usually Indy.

The 59mm wheels were so big and definitely felt nicer once worn down a whole lot or more so the 56 classic or 57mm bigheads size from new.

Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on June 24, 2021, 08:05:34 AM
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I've been on Venture low 5.2's for a long while but I'm looking to size up my whole setup. Thinking about moving to 5.6 or 5.8 and just wondering if anyone has many experience going from lows to highs. Is the geometry pretty much the same except for the height? Does the turn feel really different?

Looking forward to being able to ride a little looser without the wheelbite.
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Get the 5.6 hollow. It's lower.

https://youtu.be/8iDkw_nM-_M

Rides ventures in transition
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Goddamn.
What’s his setup at this time? I reckon 8-8.25 board, short, 5.2 hi’s, and like 56-58s….
Anyways
That part/era is so pleasing
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I have a set of his old Venture hi 5.8 trucks from when he was here in Australia.

Never had or saw any other wide Ventures back then and I think he even said they were really hard to get sometimes.

His usual setup when he wasn't riding the big shaped decks (as per about 1:23 in that clip) was roughly 8.5 or a touch less, Venture 5.8 (until he changed to Indy) with the Spitfire 59mm bighead wheels, which was nuts when you think about it, no risers and solid wheelbite, but I got used to the same wheels on my boards with minimal rubber risers under my trucks, usually Indy.

The 59mm wheels were so big and definitely felt nicer once worn down a whole lot or more so the 56 classic or 57mm bigheads size from new.
Had no idea he was ever on venture, woulda never thought. I just assumed he was always on Indys. I love finding out weird gear trivia facts like this, like finding out Cardiel skated 7.5s with 129s all the way up until the mid 2000s, or that Greco skates 129s on an 8.5, it’s always just so interesting to me. It’s not often you see transition/bowl dudes with ventures, they’re usually always on indys, or aces more recently, so it’s cool to see an outlier here n there.

Also, I had no idea 5.8s even existed back then. I thought the widest they went was 5.2 for the longest time and they just recently introduced trucks wider than 5.2 in the last few years? At least that’s what I always just assumed since you could never find anything wider than 5.2s anywhere and they didn’t advertise a truck wider than 5.2 anywhere up until the last few years, which is why I thought dudes like duffel who skated 8.5s used 5.2s for the longest time, cuz that’s the widest they used to go up until recently.
https://youtu.be/eM1s4j9u6eo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 24, 2021, 02:10:51 PM
I also love gear trivia. Too much. Always have.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 24, 2021, 07:34:08 PM
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I've been on Venture low 5.2's for a long while but I'm looking to size up my whole setup. Thinking about moving to 5.6 or 5.8 and just wondering if anyone has many experience going from lows to highs. Is the geometry pretty much the same except for the height? Does the turn feel really different?

Looking forward to being able to ride a little looser without the wheelbite.
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Get the 5.6 hollow. It's lower.

https://youtu.be/8iDkw_nM-_M

Rides ventures in transition
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Goddamn.
What’s his setup at this time? I reckon 8-8.25 board, short, 5.2 hi’s, and like 56-58s….
Anyways
That part/era is so pleasing
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I have a set of his old Venture hi 5.8 trucks from when he was here in Australia.

Never had or saw any other wide Ventures back then and I think he even said they were really hard to get sometimes.

His usual setup when he wasn't riding the big shaped decks (as per about 1:23 in that clip) was roughly 8.5 or a touch less, Venture 5.8 (until he changed to Indy) with the Spitfire 59mm bighead wheels, which was nuts when you think about it, no risers and solid wheelbite, but I got used to the same wheels on my boards with minimal rubber risers under my trucks, usually Indy.

The 59mm wheels were so big and definitely felt nicer once worn down a whole lot or more so the 56 classic or 57mm bigheads size from new.
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Had no idea he was ever on venture, woulda never thought. I just assumed he was always on Indys. I love finding out weird gear trivia facts like this, like finding out Cardiel skated 7.5s with 129s all the way up until the mid 2000s, or that Greco skates 129s on an 8.5, it’s always just so interesting to me. It’s not often you see transition/bowl dudes with ventures, they’re usually always on indys, or aces more recently, so it’s cool to see an outlier here n there.

Also, I had no idea 5.8s even existed back then. I thought the widest they went was 5.2 for the longest time and they just recently introduced trucks wider than 5.2 in the last few years? At least that’s what I always just assumed since you could never find anything wider than 5.2s anywhere and they didn’t advertise a truck wider than 5.2 anywhere up until the last few years, which is why I thought dudes like duffel who skated 8.5s used 5.2s for the longest time, cuz that’s the widest they used to go up until recently.
https://youtu.be/eM1s4j9u6eo

8.5" deck
5.2 trucks

Amazing he skated such big rails and gaps on that setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 24, 2021, 11:43:25 PM

Had no idea he was ever on venture, woulda never thought. I just assumed he was always on Indys. I love finding out weird gear trivia facts like this, like finding out Cardiel skated 7.5s with 129s all the way up until the mid 2000s, or that Greco skates 129s on an 8.5, it’s always just so interesting to me. It’s not often you see transition/bowl dudes with ventures, they’re usually always on indys, or aces more recently, so it’s cool to see an outlier here n there.

Also, I had no idea 5.8s even existed back then. I thought the widest they went was 5.2 for the longest time and they just recently introduced trucks wider than 5.2 in the last few years? At least that’s what I always just assumed since you could never find anything wider than 5.2s anywhere and they didn’t advertise a truck wider than 5.2 anywhere up until the last few years, which is why I thought dudes like duffel who skated 8.5s used 5.2s for the longest time, cuz that’s the widest they used to go up until recently.


I don't know when truck production stopped for the wider versions from the 80s into the more narrow 90s - 00s Ventures, but there were not that many around by the time some of those guys who were still on the team wanted them, which might have been in part why people like Dan Drehobl went to Indy.

A good pic showing the Ventures with six hole baseplates and 59mm Spitfire wheels (from about 2004-2005 from the deck):

(https://www.muckmouth.com/uploads/2/1/4/9/21496952/4842662_orig.jpg)


Also I did a little digging and found this article pretty good:

https://skateandannoy.com/blog/2009/03/venture-innovated/


The OG Venture team was stacked - so many big name dudes were all on Venture back in the day, including Ray Barbee, Mike Carrol, Sean Sheffey, John Cardiel, Phil Shao and Wade Speyer, who was an all terrain destroyer, street, transition, vert, etc.


(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/93/21/09/932109e38a1d8a1b013af4c33d100d6c.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: palelight on June 25, 2021, 03:13:12 AM
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Had no idea he was ever on venture, woulda never thought. I just assumed he was always on Indys. I love finding out weird gear trivia facts like this, like finding out Cardiel skated 7.5s with 129s all the way up until the mid 2000s, or that Greco skates 129s on an 8.5, it’s always just so interesting to me. It’s not often you see transition/bowl dudes with ventures, they’re usually always on indys, or aces more recently, so it’s cool to see an outlier here n there.

Also, I had no idea 5.8s even existed back then. I thought the widest they went was 5.2 for the longest time and they just recently introduced trucks wider than 5.2 in the last few years? At least that’s what I always just assumed since you could never find anything wider than 5.2s anywhere and they didn’t advertise a truck wider than 5.2 anywhere up until the last few years, which is why I thought dudes like duffel who skated 8.5s used 5.2s for the longest time, cuz that’s the widest they used to go up until recently.
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I don't know when truck production stopped for the wider versions from the 80s into the more narrow 90s Ventures, but there were not that many around by the time some of those guys who were still on the team wanted them, which might have been in part why people like Dan Drehobl went to Indy.


Also I did a little digging and found this article pretty good:

https://skateandannoy.com/blog/2009/03/venture-innovated/


The OG Venture team was stacked - so many big name dudes were all on Venture back in the day, including Ray Barbee, Mike Carrol, Sean Sheffey, John Cardiel, Phil Shao and Wade Speyer, who was an all terrain destroyer, street, transition, vert, etc.


Matt Rod too, which is pretty wild. Always wondered if he was cutting bushings back then and riding them wobbly loose,

(https://i.imgur.com/MS1MSxx.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 25, 2021, 04:21:38 PM
Skating venture lows for the first time in ages. It is wild  how much my muscle memory is formed around these trucks. Super fun.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 25, 2021, 10:27:15 PM
Skating venture lows for the first time in ages. It is wild  how much my muscle memory is formed around these trucks. Super fun.

Pinch on 5.2L can be beat, had my most consistent FS Smiths and Crooks on those trucks, yet to replicate that same feeling on any other Thunder or Venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goingapelikenigo on June 26, 2021, 04:59:57 AM
what bushings do you guys run in your lows? i got a pair of 5.2 v-lights and i want to try some new stuff in em. anyone got a recommendation? would really like some more turn if thats possible, right now i got the stock bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on June 26, 2021, 08:06:51 AM
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Skating venture lows for the first time in ages. It is wild  how much my muscle memory is formed around these trucks. Super fun.
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Pinch on 5.2L can be beat, had my most consistent FS Smiths and Crooks on those trucks, yet to replicate that same feeling on any other Thunder or Venture.

For real, I feel like I found the cheat code for long front crooks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on June 26, 2021, 10:17:52 AM
still patiently waiting for the 5.6 low but hell just might freeze over
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on June 26, 2021, 03:18:06 PM
i gave up....settled for the forged baseplates and moved on.  Not worrying about wheelbite compared to a thunder, I'm pretty happy....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 26, 2021, 03:20:57 PM
i gave up....settled for the forged baseplates and moved on.  Not worrying about wheelbite compared to a thunder, I'm pretty happy....

You on 5.6, forged? From which thunders?
I’m flopping back and forth between venture and thunder (mostly). Back to thunder atm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on June 26, 2021, 03:48:34 PM
I went from thunder teams/cast baseplate to venture forged.  They are higher but it's not really bugging me, still pop reasonably quick and I'm kinda liking riding them looser....  Still not nuts about the wheelbase.... If anything I just wish the standard BBS layup had smaller wheelbases....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 26, 2021, 04:26:35 PM
I went from thunder teams/cast baseplate to venture forged.  They are higher but it's not really bugging me, still pop reasonably quick and I'm kinda liking riding them looser....  Still not nuts about the wheelbase.... If anything I just wish the standard BBS layup had smaller wheelbases....

Yes, bbs is 14.25 and up (yes, there are exceptions).
I like 147s, like 5.2 lo’s, don’t really like 5.2 hi’s, like 5.8 hi’s….can’t call it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 26, 2021, 11:17:16 PM
still patiently waiting for the 5.6 low but hell just might freeze over

Same here, even with a forged baseplate the hanger is taller on the 5.6 versus the 5.2L. (https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/en/wiki/skateboarding/skateboard-wiki/trucks/, if these measurements are anything to go by).

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i gave up....settled for the forged baseplates and moved on.  Not worrying about wheelbite compared to a thunder, I'm pretty happy....
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You on 5.6, forged? From which thunders?
I’m flopping back and forth between venture and thunder (mostly). Back to thunder atm

I've told myself countless time to stick to Thunders since they are compatible with more board dimensions and wheelbases. But like a partner who is nothing but trouble, I keep coming back.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on June 27, 2021, 07:17:07 AM
I noticed Ventures don't grind as well...I think maybe it's a harder alloy, so I suspect along with the kingpin clearance, the truck will just last longer....

I wished they had a low too....maybe they will do a mid! 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on June 27, 2021, 07:22:29 AM
I noticed Ventures don't grind as well...I think maybe it's a harder alloy, so I suspect along with the kingpin clearance, the truck will just last longer....

I wished they had a low too....maybe they will do a mid!

? They have a low

Ventures grind is defo different. I love it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 27, 2021, 08:07:35 AM
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Same here, even with a forged baseplate the hanger is taller on the 5.6 versus the 5.2L. (https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/en/wiki/skateboarding/skateboard-wiki/trucks/, if these measurements are anything to go by).

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i gave up....settled for the forged baseplates and moved on.  Not worrying about wheelbite compared to a thunder, I'm pretty happy....
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You on 5.6, forged? From which thunders?
I’m flopping back and forth between venture and thunder (mostly). Back to thunder atm
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I've told myself countless time to stick to Thunders since they are compatible with more board dimensions and wheelbases. But like a partner who is nothing but trouble, I keep coming back.

For me it’s a lot about wheel size:if I want to not drive/not walk to the spot, I need 54s and up. If I go past 52mm wheels, venture lo’s and 147s are difficult. I get weird about how the setup looks, proportionally, don’t really favor the look of bigger wheels and smaller trucks/decks (that is an era that When I could actually skate, but….looks odd). Next thing I’m on some escalator of decision making and I’m riding 8.5s with 9” trucks and taller wheels.

I think I’m going to try and stick with 147s for a minute. They work decently for me, I can probably maybe skate 54s (forged but risers) and a decent variety of decks (totally agree with the point of ventures being a little more deck specific: I need a specific wb, but also fingers of flat, and not short n/t….when it works, flips tricks feel so much easier).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 27, 2021, 09:05:52 AM
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Same here, even with a forged baseplate the hanger is taller on the 5.6 versus the 5.2L. (https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/en/wiki/skateboarding/skateboard-wiki/trucks/, if these measurements are anything to go by).

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i gave up....settled for the forged baseplates and moved on.  Not worrying about wheelbite compared to a thunder, I'm pretty happy....
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You on 5.6, forged? From which thunders?
I’m flopping back and forth between venture and thunder (mostly). Back to thunder atm
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I've told myself countless time to stick to Thunders since they are compatible with more board dimensions and wheelbases. But like a partner who is nothing but trouble, I keep coming back.
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For me it’s a lot about wheel size:if I want to not drive/not walk to the spot, I need 54s and up. If I go past 52mm wheels, venture lo’s and 147s are difficult. I get weird about how the setup looks, proportionally, don’t really favor the look of bigger wheels and smaller trucks/decks (that is an era that When I could actually skate, but….looks odd). Next thing I’m on some escalator of decision making and I’m riding 8.5s with 9” trucks and taller wheels.

Just swapped out to 54mm Classics from some F4s worn down to 50mm, they still look a little oversized for a 8.25 / 148 setup. 52mm skinny wheels on 5.2L is the ticket but a bitch to push around on asphalt.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on June 27, 2021, 02:02:26 PM
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I noticed Ventures don't grind as well...I think maybe it's a harder alloy, so I suspect along with the kingpin clearance, the truck will just last longer....

I wished they had a low too....maybe they will do a mid!
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? They have a low

Ventures grind is defo different. I love it.

Personally I’ve felt like ventures have been my favorite grind. Even for slappies I’ve enjoyed them. Maybe I’m just a weirdo though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on June 27, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
what bushings do you guys run in your lows? i got a pair of 5.2 v-lights and i want to try some new stuff in em. anyone got a recommendation? would really like some more turn if thats possible, right now i got the stock bushings.
i have some thunder stock bushings in some 5.2s and its working out. i have 54s on it currently as some people were mentioning above but havent had any horrible wheelbite experiences yet. im curious what other people run in theirs, deluxe seems to be the goto for hi’s i wanna say
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 27, 2021, 03:03:20 PM
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what bushings do you guys run in your lows? i got a pair of 5.2 v-lights and i want to try some new stuff in em. anyone got a recommendation? would really like some more turn if thats possible, right now i got the stock bushings.
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i have some thunder stock bushings in some 5.2s and its working out. i have 54s on it currently as some people were mentioning above but havent had any horrible wheelbite experiences yet. im curious what other people run in theirs, deluxe seems to be the goto for hi’s i wanna say

54s on lo’s is some early 2000s ave/dill shit. I dunno how they managed to roll, let alone rip.
Stock is great, otherwise bones hards. If you are made of money and bones bushing you can run no washers for a turn only limited by the size of your wheels, at the expense of blowing out the bushing prematurely.
I’m not trying not to slalom, so I use the top flat washer.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on June 27, 2021, 03:30:07 PM
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what bushings do you guys run in your lows? i got a pair of 5.2 v-lights and i want to try some new stuff in em. anyone got a recommendation? would really like some more turn if thats possible, right now i got the stock bushings.
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i have some thunder stock bushings in some 5.2s and its working out. i have 54s on it currently as some people were mentioning above but havent had any horrible wheelbite experiences yet. im curious what other people run in theirs, deluxe seems to be the goto for hi’s i wanna say
I got some 52 f4 classics on my hi's with bones hards. I try other trucks but I always go back to this trusty setup. My crooked grinds are on lock with them. I struggle with anything else.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 27, 2021, 05:57:25 PM
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what bushings do you guys run in your lows? i got a pair of 5.2 v-lights and i want to try some new stuff in em. anyone got a recommendation? would really like some more turn if thats possible, right now i got the stock bushings.
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i have some thunder stock bushings in some 5.2s and its working out. i have 54s on it currently as some people were mentioning above but havent had any horrible wheelbite experiences yet. im curious what other people run in theirs, deluxe seems to be the goto for hi’s i wanna say
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I got some 52 f4 classics on my hi's with bones hards. I try other trucks but I always go back to this trusty setup. My crooked grinds are on lock with them. I struggle with anything else.

Which hi’s? Not sure why I really wasn’t feeling the 5.2 hi’s, but love the 5.2 lo’s.
I’ve skated 5.0 hi’s and can actually flip my board pretty well/easily….but 5.0 hi’s look so stupid I just can’t.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on June 27, 2021, 06:45:28 PM
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what bushings do you guys run in your lows? i got a pair of 5.2 v-lights and i want to try some new stuff in em. anyone got a recommendation? would really like some more turn if thats possible, right now i got the stock bushings.
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i have some thunder stock bushings in some 5.2s and its working out. i have 54s on it currently as some people were mentioning above but havent had any horrible wheelbite experiences yet. im curious what other people run in theirs, deluxe seems to be the goto for hi’s i wanna say
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54s on lo’s is some early 2000s ave/dill shit. I dunno how they managed to roll, let alone rip.
Stock is great, otherwise bones hards. If you are made of money and bones bushing you can run no washers for a turn only limited by the size of your wheels, at the expense of blowing out the bushing prematurely.
I’m not trying not to slalom, so I use the top flat washer.
lol have no idea either, if it adds to the mystery they are loophole v shape.
dumb question - pivot cups replacement needed on the lo’s, just gonna go riptide unless someone has another option
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 27, 2021, 07:03:46 PM
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what bushings do you guys run in your lows? i got a pair of 5.2 v-lights and i want to try some new stuff in em. anyone got a recommendation? would really like some more turn if thats possible, right now i got the stock bushings.
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i have some thunder stock bushings in some 5.2s and its working out. i have 54s on it currently as some people were mentioning above but havent had any horrible wheelbite experiences yet. im curious what other people run in theirs, deluxe seems to be the goto for hi’s i wanna say
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I got some 52 f4 classics on my hi's with bones hards. I try other trucks but I always go back to this trusty setup. My crooked grinds are on lock with them. I struggle with anything else.
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Which hi’s? Not sure why I really wasn’t feeling the 5.2 hi’s, but love the 5.2 lo’s.
I’ve skated 5.0 hi’s and can actually flip my board pretty well/easily….but 5.0 hi’s look so stupid I just can’t.

5.6, which only come in Hi, even with the forged baseplate it doesn't get them low enough.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on June 28, 2021, 10:50:00 AM
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I've been on Venture low 5.2's for a long while but I'm looking to size up my whole setup. Thinking about moving to 5.6 or 5.8 and just wondering if anyone has many experience going from lows to highs. Is the geometry pretty much the same except for the height? Does the turn feel really different?

Looking forward to being able to ride a little looser without the wheelbite.
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5.2L are my all time favorite truck for 8" boards specially on board that were long with a short wheelbase, Goldilocks setup was 8 x 32 x 14. Eventually sized up to 8.25" boards and wanted to bring the same Venture feel over, but I've yet to recreate the same success (hefy but floaty pop) even on boards with roughly similar dimensions (8.25 x 31.9 x 14.125).

5.2L have an incredible pinch on ledges, my Smith and Crooked grinds never felt better, but doesn't translate as well to the 5.6, even with cast or forged baseplates.

Turning geometry remains similar but I'm used to not carving, only tick tacking (2000s skater).

Threw a lot of deck dimension combinations at the 5.6 but they just never felt as good as the 5.2L. Really wanted to love them more; I have a pair of V-Hollows and Titanium in 5.6. Excellent pinch but the height and wheelbase displacement are too much for my tired old legs.

To combat my madness I've decided to stick to Thunder 148 on 8.25" decks, 5.2L on 8 - 8.125" decks.
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Dude, that's fucking great insight. Thank you. I have been a bit worried about the extra heft and harder pop if sizing up on a long wheelbase truck like Ventures. I'm also from the before times, so an 8" with low Ventures feels like home to me. I always try to stick with a 14" WB or 14.25 max. It definitely worries me to think about riding Ventures on a 14.38 - 14.5 WB deck. Not sure I have the strength to handle a beautiful beast like that. Maybe I'll look into Thunders as a compromise. Thanks again man.
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if you arent looking to size up past 8.5 theres no issue finding 14.25 wb decks with a few sprinklings of 14.0, 14.125, & 14.18s.

do you know what width youre looking for?
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I'm thinking minimum 8.25, maximum 8.5. I know Crail has lots of wider boards with a smaller wheelbase but not sure who else. I saw a Maxallure 8.5 recently that had a short wheelbase but I don't know if that shape is in their regular lineup. Crails mellow kicks might pair nicely with a set of tall Ventures?
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I'm riding a polar 8.25x31.8x14.1 with a set of 5.6hi currently and highly recommend it. I've done a 8.25 girl deck with them before also and that was pretty good.
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Ventures really excel at short WB decks coupled with a longer length and medium concave. Recently tried Venture 5.6 Titanium on a Blind (yeah I know) with 8.38 x 32.2 x 14.25 and steep kicks, though the added length would compensate for the longer wheelbase. Didn't have a great time on both forged and cast baseplates, but I will miss that baseplate slide. Swapped out to Thunder 148 and the deck feels so much livelier on the pop and flick. Minor decrease in pinch but my flip tricks (probably my worst aspect) were responsive when I need them to be, especially for leverage tricks like FS Flips and Hardflips.

Again YMMV.
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@Movies heres my recommendations
fa/hockey 8.5/31.9/14.25
quasi 8.5/31.75/14.25

I need these dims in a BBS, non-FA shaped deck. I like a full nose but haven’t gotten used to a square tail. Might try the 8.5/14.25 DLX.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on June 28, 2021, 05:08:30 PM
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what bushings do you guys run in your lows? i got a pair of 5.2 v-lights and i want to try some new stuff in em. anyone got a recommendation? would really like some more turn if thats possible, right now i got the stock bushings.
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i have some thunder stock bushings in some 5.2s and its working out. i have 54s on it currently as some people were mentioning above but havent had any horrible wheelbite experiences yet. im curious what other people run in theirs, deluxe seems to be the goto for hi’s i wanna say
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I got some 52 f4 classics on my hi's with bones hards. I try other trucks but I always go back to this trusty setup. My crooked grinds are on lock with them. I struggle with anything else.
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Which hi’s? Not sure why I really wasn’t feeling the 5.2 hi’s, but love the 5.2 lo’s.
I’ve skated 5.0 hi’s and can actually flip my board pretty well/easily….but 5.0 hi’s look so stupid I just can’t.
5.8 hi standard are what I use. They're a great truck. I can flip my board no problem with them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on July 05, 2021, 01:43:55 PM
To all of you Venture users from europe that have also been looking for 5.8 Hi Hollows: Skatedeluxe (I know, I know...) has some of them again.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: antarctica on July 05, 2021, 07:00:34 PM
Looking to buy an 8.25 or 8.375 quasi, whats the lenght on those bbs style? Also has anybody ridden either one with venture 5.6s? How did that go lol

Posted the same thing in the quasi thread but I think here is the better place to ask about people trying ventures on quasis,lmk ur guys experiences
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CowboyDan on July 05, 2021, 07:34:36 PM
Looking to buy an 8.25 or 8.375 quasi, whats the lenght on those bbs style? Also has anybody ridden either one with venture 5.6s? How did that go lol

Posted the same thing in the quasi thread but I think here is the better place to ask about people trying ventures on quasis,lmk ur guys experiences
I just set up a new 8.375 quasi and it measures 31.75” bbs style. I’ve skated two of these previously with 5.8s and it’s my favorite setup lately.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MaXX_I-D on July 25, 2021, 09:52:44 AM
I'm thinking of trying out Ventures. I'm currently skating Indy 139's(8") forged hollows on a baker b2 8.25 and 54mm wheels. The deck has a short wheelbase for how long it is so I want to switch trucks and see if that helps. Any recommendations on which to try?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 25, 2021, 06:47:01 PM
I'm thinking of trying out Ventures. I'm currently skating Indy 139's(8") forged hollows on a baker b2 8.25 and 54mm wheels. The deck has a short wheelbase for how long it is so I want to switch trucks and see if that helps. Any recommendations on which to try?

Can't go wrong with either cast or forged, 5.6 V-Hollow or 5.2 V-Lights would be my choice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on July 25, 2021, 09:05:43 PM
Looking to buy an 8.25 or 8.375 quasi, whats the lenght on those bbs style? Also has anybody ridden either one with venture 5.6s? How did that go lol

Posted the same thing in the quasi thread but I think here is the better place to ask about people trying ventures on quasis,lmk ur guys experiences

They’re the same shape but the 8.38 is wider and has a 1/8” longer tail. I prefer the 8.25. I like it on both trucks but marginally prefer the Indys. I got a lot of nollie ghost pop with venture cast, but it’s splitting hairs. In a week I’ll feel the opposite.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MaXX_I-D on July 26, 2021, 09:19:43 AM
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I'm thinking of trying out Ventures. I'm currently skating Indy 139's(8") forged hollows on a baker b2 8.25 and 54mm wheels. The deck has a short wheelbase for how long it is so I want to switch trucks and see if that helps. Any recommendations on which to try?
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Can't go wrong with either cast or forged, 5.6 V-Hollow or 5.2 V-Lights would be my choice.
I got 5.2 v-hollows not realizing the difference between them and the v-lights. They're a bit too light but other than that I like them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on July 29, 2021, 03:05:20 PM
Black hardware on the Venture polished? I hope this isn’t the new move. Definitely like the silver better.
(https://i.ibb.co/C9dBPj3/11-F51112-54-DA-4664-AB0-B-AB9-CC22-EF74-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C9dBPj3)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fooj on July 29, 2021, 09:57:35 PM
Black hardware on the Venture polished? I hope this isn’t the new move. Definitely like the silver better.
(https://i.ibb.co/C9dBPj3/11-F51112-54-DA-4664-AB0-B-AB9-CC22-EF74-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C9dBPj3)

^ agreed, First thing i do with any truck is swap all the hardware and pivot cups out for silver, with the exception of the bones washer.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on July 30, 2021, 07:46:28 AM
curious if anyone knows if there's any difference between lo's pre-dlx/streetcorner vs dlx? i'm currently on a pair of the pre and i couldn't find much info regarding differences (if there were any) online other than the lil V graphic being flipped on the hangar in my case
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank and Fred on July 30, 2021, 02:09:14 PM
Just set some  6.1 Ventures up (thanks @FrozenIndustries ) for the first time since the early 90s (when I learnt and had most of my flip tricks on lock). I replaced the stock bottom bushings with some broken in Thunder white 90a bushings and kept the stock Venture tops. Anyway, coming off Ace the turn is very peculiar. Super delayed but then it kicks in nicely. Almost like the opposite of Thunder that tuns quick initially but them stops. The Venture geo seems really conducive for setting up for flip tricks. I've noticed since I started riding loose Ace, flip tricks are a struggle. I think the Ventures will be fun for flatground times. Also the pop feels amazing. Almost like I'm getting a little extra boost when I ollie. Look forward to trying them on some small wheelbase, small wheel set ups.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on July 31, 2021, 10:27:58 AM
So some ppl on here recommended an 8.18 FA/Hockey with the 5.6 hollows I got.
Did that. Love it. Great combo (had 8.25 + 8.38 FAs before).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on July 31, 2021, 01:19:40 PM
So some ppl on here recommended an 8.18 FA/Hockey with the 5.6 hollows I got.
Did that. Love it. Great combo (had 8.25 + 8.38 FAs before).

Great combo best setup I’ve ever ridden it’s what I’m on now. So much pop
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on July 31, 2021, 01:35:23 PM
damn thats got me thinking….i skate 5.8 titaniums, does anyone have an 8.5 deck they particularly love to pair with?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 31, 2021, 03:55:07 PM
I'm back on the Venture train, for today at least. Anything longer than 14.125 is not ideal for me and I've been on 148 Titaniums for the past month or so, good but they never felt perfect. First time I'm riding Ventures of a deck with a 14.25 WB, carrying the Thunders in my bag in case I hate the combination.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: dustyassrocketswitchv on July 31, 2021, 04:07:20 PM
they don't turn 2021
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on July 31, 2021, 04:39:28 PM
they don't turn 2021

Really made my drunk ass laugh. But I'm lurking this topic all the time, one day I'm gonna try ventures. I need ventures with the same wheelbase extension as thunders, but the long baseplate and kingpin clearance. That's all I ever wanted
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 31, 2021, 10:16:17 PM
they don't turn 2021

Fuck turning, tick tack like a real man!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on August 01, 2021, 06:50:21 AM
damn thats got me thinking….i skate 5.8 titaniums, does anyone have an 8.5 deck they particularly love to pair with?

i should have worded this differently, but another way to ask-
anyone have suggestions on an 8.5 with a sub 14.25wb?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on August 01, 2021, 09:06:07 AM
they don't turn 2021

Mine turn excellently!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 01, 2021, 09:25:47 AM
First session in an I remember why I love Ventures. Hefty but solid pop with almost no ghost pop, board was sticking to my feet the entire session. More technical flip tricks took more effort to whip around. I cranked the bushings down tighter than usual since I've been struggling getting the tightness right and the stability offered on a simple kickflip or ollie very comforting. Not to mention the pinch and slide were 2nd to none.

What was surprising was how well it paired with a 14.25 WB (32 Length), my madness led me to believe that Ventures pair best with 14 - 14.125", but you never know unless you experiment.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank and Fred on August 01, 2021, 09:38:29 AM
Hefty but solid pop with almost no ghost pop, board was sticking to my feet the entire session.

This.

Just ordered some 88a Supercush bushings and Real/ Venture wooden risers to loosen up my 6.1s a bit more, but the pop and precision is currently worth the price of the delayed turn. I always thought I would rotate between Thunder and Ace but the Ventures just might replace the Thunders. Ace Ventura, the two extremes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on August 01, 2021, 01:15:15 PM
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i should have worded this differently, but another way to ask-
anyone have suggestions on an 8.5 with a sub 14.25wb?

Wknd's new 8.5 MP, Business and co. 8.49. both 14" wb.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on August 01, 2021, 01:34:42 PM
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i should have worded this differently, but another way to ask-
anyone have suggestions on an 8.5 with a sub 14.25wb?

FA/Hockey 8.38s feel almost like a non-FA/Hockey 8.5 to me... and wheelbase is 14.18.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on August 01, 2021, 03:45:47 PM
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i should have worded this differently, but another way to ask-
anyone have suggestions on an 8.5 with a sub 14.25wb?

The navy 8.5 antihero eagle board, along with many other dlx 8.5s have a 14.25 wheelbase. Though lately they've been measuring a little narrower than 8.5, closer to an 8.38.

I think quasi has two 8.5s, one is a 14.25 wb.
FA/Hockey 8.5s are also 14.25 and quite nice but I personally dont like how steep the nose is.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yatallfreak on August 01, 2021, 06:34:00 PM
WKND & Alien Workshop/Habitat have 8.5’s that are 14.25 wheelbase and for me they feel perfect for Venture 5.8’s. Just skated a krooked 8.5 and it felt so skinny compared to the Workshop 8.5 I’m on currently. I’ve noticed DLX 8.5’s all seem to taper to being 8.38 on the tail end like mentioned above, Antihero, Krooked, & Real all seem to do this
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on August 02, 2021, 02:17:10 PM
Even if the wheelbase is 14.25 I would always try to check the fingers of flat on the tail and nose as well.
I’ve had 14.25 wb boards where the fingers of flat on the tail was real minimal, making the tail feel super heavy. That combined with ventures will make popping your tail feel like a workout every time, even though the wb is still 14.25.
Ventures on a 14.25 wb board where there is a decent amount of fingers of flat on the nose and tail is the best combo to me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank and Fred on August 02, 2021, 05:51:01 PM
Can Confirm that the Real/ Venture wooden risers fit Ventures perfectly (cast plates). And 88a Supercush bushings feel real nice in 6.1s.

Currently have them on an 8.5" Hockey with 14.25" WB". I think they'd feel even better on a mellower kicked board.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on August 03, 2021, 05:54:52 AM
Can Confirm that the Real/ Venture wooden risers fit Ventures perfectly (cast plates). And 88a Supercush bushings feel real nice in 6.1s.

Currently have them on an 8.5" Hockey with 14.25" WB". I think they'd feel even better on a mellower kicked board.
Yeah they definitely feel better on boards with mellower kicks. I was gonna get a hockey but the kicks were extremely steep and that paired with ventures would mean ghost pop city for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Deekay on August 03, 2021, 12:30:01 PM
I've never tried Ventures but I think it's time.

I'm coming from strictly Indy/Aces since forever and I like to turn, I can't stand Indy lows or anything like that but I ride a hybrid Indy forged/stage 10 hanger that's 51.5mm high and the turn is fine on those.

I'll be riding a 7.75-7.875" setup so they'll all have small wheelbases.

Will I hate Ventures? What should I try? 5.0 or 5.2? Highs might be too high, will the turn be sufficient on v-lights?

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Post by: Frank and Fred on August 03, 2021, 12:52:19 PM
You're going to want the highs if you are coming from Ace/ Indy and like to turn. Most likely need softer bushings also.
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Post by: white guy in a durag on August 03, 2021, 01:01:34 PM
Venture His + bones softs will get you where you want to go.
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Post by: Deekay on August 03, 2021, 01:12:51 PM
Great, thank you. Is there a big difference between the cast and forged baseplates in terms of feel with turn/wheelbase?
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Post by: tzhangdox on August 03, 2021, 01:13:48 PM
Great, thank you. Is there a big difference between the cast and forged baseplates in terms of feel with turn/wheelbase?

Forged plates are lower and extend the wheelbase a bit more (.15 inches ish if I recall correctly). If you're coming from indys/aces probably get the cast.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on August 03, 2021, 02:54:48 PM
I'm coming from strictly Indy/Aces since forever and I like to turn

I rode a friends board with ventures for the first time today out of curiosity and I was in disbelief. I thought they just don't turn as great as ace but are still fine, but I actually leaned and had to step off multiple times because the turn was extremely slow/delayed and not sharp at all. And they were as loose as it gets. Nothing wrong with the bushings either, I checked. It feels like shit compared to indy/ace/thunder. I honestly hope there's something wrong with his trucks that I missed and not every venture rider has to live in pain like that. But still, you really might wanna try it on someone elses setup before buying.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on August 03, 2021, 03:26:59 PM
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I rode a friends board with ventures for the first time today out of curiosity and I was in disbelief. I thought they just don't turn as great as ace but are still fine, but I actually leaned and had to step off multiple times because the turn was extremely slow/delayed and not sharp at all. And they were as loose as it gets. Nothing wrong with the bushings either, I checked. It feels like shit compared to indy/ace/thunder. I honestly hope there's something wrong with his trucks that I missed and not every venture rider has to live in pain like that. But still, you really might wanna try it on someone elses setup before buying.

Yeah thats why you see Touzery, Kader, Worrest, etc. constantly stepping of their board and living in pain (or skating through it?). #VenturesDontTurn2021

Let's keep that narrative alive so the prices drop for us miserable people who are addicted to pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Deekay on August 03, 2021, 04:03:08 PM
Thanks for all the replies, I appreciate it.. I guess cast 5.2's with soft bushings is the way to go.


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I rode a friends board with ventures for the first time today out of curiosity and I was in disbelief. I thought they just don't turn as great as ace but are still fine, but I actually leaned and had to step off multiple times because the turn was extremely slow/delayed and not sharp at all. And they were as loose as it gets. Nothing wrong with the bushings either, I checked. It feels like shit compared to indy/ace/thunder. I honestly hope there's something wrong with his trucks that I missed and not every venture rider has to live in pain like that. But still, you really might wanna try it on someone elses setup before buying.

Shit, I hear you.. With original bushings though, broken in? I got a few Aces from when they started and I still have some, the 44's on my cruiser are beat to shit but they turn so deep they feel like slalom trucks. However, I got some (Ace) classics recently and kept the original bushings in... they turned like shit and didn't seem to break in (or I lost patience), I "hated" them.

Anyway, the point of my whole ramble was that I'd think I hated Aces if those were the first one I tried. I guess I won't know about Ventures until I get some and play around with bushing options. Not expecting them to turn like Aces though but that's not why I'm getting them..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on August 03, 2021, 04:14:16 PM
Thanks for all the replies, I appreciate it.. I guess cast 5.2's with soft bushings is the way to go.


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I rode a friends board with ventures for the first time today out of curiosity and I was in disbelief. I thought they just don't turn as great as ace but are still fine, but I actually leaned and had to step off multiple times because the turn was extremely slow/delayed and not sharp at all. And they were as loose as it gets. Nothing wrong with the bushings either, I checked. It feels like shit compared to indy/ace/thunder. I honestly hope there's something wrong with his trucks that I missed and not every venture rider has to live in pain like that. But still, you really might wanna try it on someone elses setup before buying.
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Shit, I hear you.. With original bushings though, broken in? I got a few Aces from when they started and I still have some, the 44's on my cruiser are beat to shit but they turn so deep they feel like slalom trucks. However, I got some (Ace) classics recently and kept the original bushings in... they turned like shit and didn't seem to break in (or I lost patience), I "hated" them.

Anyway, the point of my whole ramble was that I'd think I hated Aces if those were the first one I tried. I guess I won't know about Ventures until I get some and play around with bushing options. Not expecting them to turn like Aces though but that's not why I'm getting them..

Stock bushings, flat top washer and leave it. The only time the turn bothers me is if I'm trying to do a very sharp turn or u-turn in which case I'll catch myself tic tacking to get around quicker as I don't have patience to make that big of a circle.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank and Fred on August 03, 2021, 05:42:08 PM
Repeating myself here but I'm really impressed with how the 88a Supercush bushings make the 6.1s turn... But I think I read on here the 6.1s turn a bit better than the narrower sizes as it is.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 03, 2021, 11:18:32 PM
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Forged plates are lower and extend the wheelbase a bit more (.15 inches ish if I recall correctly). If you're coming from indys/aces probably get the cast.

In general for the 5.2 / 5.6
Cast - + 3.25"
Forged - + 3.4 - 3.5"

For Venture Hi and Lo, the height difference is due to the difference in hanger design right? They use the same cast / forged baseplate. If that were the case I wish they did a 5.6 Lo with a forged baseplate, that would be my dream truck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on August 04, 2021, 03:30:22 AM
Thanks for all the replies, I appreciate it.. I guess cast 5.2's with soft bushings is the way to go.


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I rode a friends board with ventures for the first time today out of curiosity and I was in disbelief. I thought they just don't turn as great as ace but are still fine, but I actually leaned and had to step off multiple times because the turn was extremely slow/delayed and not sharp at all. And they were as loose as it gets. Nothing wrong with the bushings either, I checked. It feels like shit compared to indy/ace/thunder. I honestly hope there's something wrong with his trucks that I missed and not every venture rider has to live in pain like that. But still, you really might wanna try it on someone elses setup before buying.
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Shit, I hear you.. With original bushings though, broken in? I got a few Aces from when they started and I still have some, the 44's on my cruiser are beat to shit but they turn so deep they feel like slalom trucks. However, I got some (Ace) classics recently and kept the original bushings in... they turned like shit and didn't seem to break in (or I lost patience), I "hated" them.

Anyway, the point of my whole ramble was that I'd think I hated Aces if those were the first one I tried. I guess I won't know about Ventures until I get some and play around with bushing options. Not expecting them to turn like Aces though but that's not why I'm getting them..

Haven't tried the classics, but read that they take a very long time to break in, but then they are super soft and turny.
Nothing wrong with trying things if you got the cash, hope you post your experience with them! They shouldn't be as bad as the ones I tried, something's gotta be wrong there. But yeah, they had stock bushings and he rode them for a few months already.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Deekay on August 05, 2021, 05:34:50 AM
I hear you man.. Thanks for all the answers, I appreciate it!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 05, 2021, 07:33:27 AM
I ride Indy’s, I have been told on the loose side of medium-loose. I’ve literally taken Indys off and bolted Ventures on and after 5 minutes could barely tell. They have more lean at the top but if you’re not an idiot you quickly figure out where the turn point is. Since they have a different turn arc they’re actually looser at the top for me but take more effort to bottom out. This is stock setups for both. I can only imagine that running softer bushings and/or flat top would get you pretty floppy.

It’s not hard to get any truck to rattle either. Remove the washers and put softies in or cut your bushings. They’re not Kruxs FFS
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on August 05, 2021, 09:15:53 AM
I ride Indy’s, I have been told on the loose side of medium-loose. I’ve literally taken Indys off and bolted Ventures on and after 5 minutes could barely tell. They have more lean at the top but if you’re not an idiot you quickly figure out where the turn point is. Since they have a different turn arc they’re actually looser at the top for me but take more effort to bottom out. This is stock setups for both. I can only imagine that running softer bushings and/or flat top would get you pretty floppy.

It’s not hard to get any truck to rattle either. Remove the washers and put softies in or cut your bushings. They’re not Kruxs FFS
Being that the turn felt nearly the same to you why did you prefer the Indy over the Venture? I’m currently debating Venture at the moment and Indy has been my mainstay for most of my skateboarding in recent years.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: white guy in a durag on August 05, 2021, 11:32:34 AM
Had a good 20 minute session on my new vlights before the rain soaked me, but I'm feeling the truck madness creep back. Gotta get some soft bushings in them to optimize the turn, but the difference in pop coming from aces is insane.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 05, 2021, 01:30:50 PM
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I ride Indy’s, I have been told on the loose side of medium-loose. I’ve literally taken Indys off and bolted Ventures on and after 5 minutes could barely tell. They have more lean at the top but if you’re not an idiot you quickly figure out where the turn point is. Since they have a different turn arc they’re actually looser at the top for me but take more effort to bottom out. This is stock setups for both. I can only imagine that running softer bushings and/or flat top would get you pretty floppy.

It’s not hard to get any truck to rattle either. Remove the washers and put softies in or cut your bushings. They’re not Kruxs FFS
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Being that the turn felt nearly the same to you why did you prefer the Indy over the Venture? I’m currently debating Venture at the moment and Indy has been my mainstay for most of my skateboarding in recent years.

With the deck I was riding I would get nollie ghost pop pretty bad with the Ventures. I like the Indy grind better on the ledges I skate the Ventures have a pretty slow/tinny feeling grind. I was riding Ti hangers on cast plates, but felt that full cast was too heavy and frankentrucking is annoying. When I had casts I also blew out top bushings really regularly doing slappies mostly cuz I use the stock washers. I don't have the patience to customize my trucks or fuck with them much anymore.

Its mostly nitpicking, but for the most part Indy's feel the most natural for my abilities and what I like to do. With Indy's and nollie backside 180s the rotation is so fast it's effortless, which I prefer to the heft of Ventures. Even kickflips feel snappier. I would fuck around with decks more and one day I'll try and 8/14" with smaller trucks and see how it feels. I think if I got them on a hookup I could just learn my way around it over time, but I don't need to do that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on August 05, 2021, 03:10:48 PM
Solid response Lebowski. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on August 09, 2021, 10:37:04 PM
Had a good 20 minute session on my new vlights before the rain soaked me, but I'm feeling the truck madness creep back. Gotta get some soft bushings in them to optimize the turn, but the difference in pop coming from aces is insane.

dude right aces have shit pop
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 09, 2021, 10:57:47 PM
Ventures don't grind that well...you get used to it but even coming from thunders....they definitely grab more.  Re: the turn....as a tight truck guy?  Check me out now.....solid medium!  Even loosish! 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on August 09, 2021, 11:36:35 PM
i stand by the indy 78a barrels but bought some 88a conicals to experiment with. i need the venture "balance beam" before the turn to still be there, will report back


as for the grind, take an extra push or two. the added stability is a confidence boost and since you are gonna slow down a bit on the grind, why not?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Dwyck on August 10, 2021, 09:37:47 AM
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I'm coming from strictly Indy/Aces since forever and I like to turn
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I rode a friends board with ventures for the first time today out of curiosity and I was in disbelief. I thought they just don't turn as great as ace but are still fine, but I actually leaned and had to step off multiple times because the turn was extremely slow/delayed and not sharp at all. And they were as loose as it gets. Nothing wrong with the bushings either, I checked. It feels like shit compared to indy/ace/thunder. I honestly hope there's something wrong with his trucks that I missed and not every venture rider has to live in pain like that. But still, you really might wanna try it on someone elses setup before buying.

I've been skating 5.8s after ten years of 149s and they turn fine
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on August 10, 2021, 09:55:13 AM
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I'm coming from strictly Indy/Aces since forever and I like to turn
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I rode a friends board with ventures for the first time today out of curiosity and I was in disbelief. I thought they just don't turn as great as ace but are still fine, but I actually leaned and had to step off multiple times because the turn was extremely slow/delayed and not sharp at all. And they were as loose as it gets. Nothing wrong with the bushings either, I checked. It feels like shit compared to indy/ace/thunder. I honestly hope there's something wrong with his trucks that I missed and not every venture rider has to live in pain like that. But still, you really might wanna try it on someone elses setup before buying.
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I've been skating 5.8s after ten years of 149s and they turn fine

I swap between ace and venture. Mine turn fine also. They definitely feel shitty super tight but most trucks do
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank and Fred on August 10, 2021, 09:58:56 AM
They turn. You just have time for  a cup of tea and sandwich, after you lean before you actually turn.

Not necessarily a bad thing. If you want to feel nice and stable before setting up for flip tricks, its great.

however, the other day, I stepped off my board just pushing around a corner (I'm used to loose Aces) and I'm running 88a Supercush on my 6.1s. I'm still yet to try them in a bowl.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on August 11, 2021, 06:25:00 AM
They turn. You just have time for  a cup of tea and sandwich, after you lean before you actually turn.

Not necessarily a bad thing. If you want to feel nice and stable before setting up for flip tricks, its great.

however, the other day, I stepped off my board just pushing around a corner (I'm used to loose Aces) and I'm running 88a Supercush on my 6.1s. I'm still yet to try them in a bowl.
Bones hard bushings depending on how heavy you are work best in ventures. Indy bushings don't give the full potential of the turn. Also the rebound isn't very good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank and Fred on August 11, 2021, 06:46:09 AM
Tried Bones medium. They were OK. The soft Supercush are far better. I like my bushings to be 100% urethane, no plastic.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on August 11, 2021, 07:05:11 AM
Tried Bones medium. They were OK. The soft Supercush are far better. I like my bushings to be 100% urethane, no plastic.
I can respect that. I think I'll try the supercush with my next new pair of venture. I have the thrasher colab with the yellow baseplates in 5.8 HI on ice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: big_kev_215 on August 11, 2021, 08:28:50 PM
I’m sure it’s already been brought up on this thread at some point, but is there/has there been any discussion of Venture eventually making lows in the 5.6/8.25” size?  This would provide the next chapter of set-up madness that has been missing in my life.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 11, 2021, 11:03:17 PM
I’m sure it’s already been brought up on this thread at some point, but is there/has there been any discussion of Venture eventually making lows in the 5.6/8.25” size?  This would provide the next chapter of set-up madness that has been missing in my life.

Agreed, I need 5.6 Los in my life. Even with the forged baseplate the 5.6 could get a little lower.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 11, 2021, 11:16:22 PM
Agreed too but they'll never do it.....what about a mid!! J/K.....no one ever asked for a mid...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on August 12, 2021, 05:23:55 AM
Agreed too but they'll never do it.....what about a mid!! J/K.....no one ever asked for a mid...
Venture had a mid in 5.2 I had them a few years ago and they were great. Perfect with 52s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on August 12, 2021, 07:25:14 AM
i've been skating titanium hangers with cast plates and 54mm classic f4s for the past 2 years or so.  i just ordered some 52mm's and was thinking about switching to the forged plates.  what kind of difference if any do you think i would experience? 

i could just wait to test it out but the wheels dont come until monday so im trying to cure my curiosity here lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on August 12, 2021, 09:15:11 AM
i've been skating titanium hangers with cast plates and 54mm classic f4s for the past 2 years or so.  i just ordered some 52mm's and was thinking about switching to the forged plates.  what kind of difference if any do you think i would experience? 

i could just wait to test it out but the wheels dont come until monday so im trying to cure my curiosity here lol

I currently ride essentially the reverse setup as you do (cast bobby 5.8 hangers/forged plates from prod 5.8 Ti's), and am keeping the setup yours resembles on ice.  From what I gleaned from Slap: I think cast plates on Ti hangers pull your truck WB in a little tighter, ~.10-.25". So putting on the forged would increase the WB.  I *think*.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on August 13, 2021, 04:11:43 AM
^^yesssir!  you’re definitely correct about that, the forged push the wb out more than the cast.  i was more so curious about the height reduction from switching plates and also getting smaller wheels!

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 13, 2021, 06:00:23 AM
^^yesssir!  you’re definitely correct about that, the forged push the wb out more than the cast.  i was more so curious about the height reduction from switching plates and also getting smaller wheels!

I'm on Franken-Ventures (5.6 Ti Hanger, Cast baseplate), on 54mm Slim wheels, ride them semi loose. Wheelbite is definitely still a thing, but often but more often than I would like. 52mm would have been my preference.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on August 15, 2021, 11:24:56 AM
some weird madness ahead...

I'm riding 5.6 hollow highs with bones medium and riptide pivot cups since quite some time now – a year? don't know for sure. replaced the cups because the ogs where squeaking all the time, no matter what I put in them. but since two months or something, my setup feels crazy loose, kind of wobbly. even get a little jiggle when I'm "loading up" to pop when I'm fast, which really messes with my mind. already tightened the trucks a bit. two times actually. now I noticed that one pivot cup has a small crack in it (nothing big, I don't think thats it) and gear nerd ben degros just posted a video about indy-vs-bones-bushings, where he describes the bones to give in after about a month, getting smaller, messing with the geometry of the truck etc. anybody else has the same issue? didn't notice it as much, but since I just set up a new board two weeks ago and it felt great in the beginning, I'm questioning everything right now. should just stop watching ben degros and skate.

thanks for any input.

also: all the people that recommended fa/hockey 8.18 + venture 5.6s... did you also experience a crazy change in regular, but especially nollie-pop after about a week of constant skating that combination? nollie pop is gone, starting to pop half cab tricks that have to come up high from the nose as well, because the tail doesn't feel as "jumpy/lever-y" as it did in the first week.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on August 19, 2021, 03:22:46 PM
What's up grinders. Ace head here. Ventures are the only trucks I've never tried other than a few others not worth getting fomo over (krux, etc).

I dig how low the kingpin sits on venture hi's. If I throw in some Bones bushings or supercush softs, maybe swap the pivot cups for some riptides and pair these on a 14"-14.25" wheelbase, will I still end up hating these trucks, seeing as I only ride Ace?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on August 19, 2021, 03:32:32 PM
What's up grinders. Ace head here. Ventures are the only trucks I've never tried other than a few others not worth getting fomo over (krux, etc).

I dig how low the kingpin sits on venture hi's. If I throw in some Bones bushings or supercush softs, maybe swap the pivot cups for some riptides and pair these on a 14"-14.25" wheelbase, will I still end up hating these trucks, seeing as I only ride Ace?

if you like Ace’s bc of the turn you will likely not enjoy Ventures.  they dont carve similarly at all imo, and ventures have a lean before their turn begins.  they will feel much more stable so you may like them in that regard but depending on your skating it could be really hit or miss
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank and Fred on August 19, 2021, 03:33:46 PM
@logjammin Mostly ride Ace also but dabbled with Venture (88a Supercush ungraded bushings). I didn't hate them but I was under no illusion they would turn anything like Ace. They have their advantages, depending on what you want from them. If you want a low kingpin and a truck that feels super stable when setting up for tricks- try them. If you don't want a super delayed turn, don't bother.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: alraunen on August 19, 2021, 04:24:34 PM
Does anybody knows or thinks that's there's a 9-9,1 width ventures in the works? I want to go up to 9" decks but I don't want to leave ventures, they just feel perfect.

I tried to skate trucks with wider boards and doesn't work for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on August 19, 2021, 04:25:36 PM
Thanks for the replies dudes, the stability and low kingpin sound like the main things going for them. I could use both of those aspects after being on loose Ace's for so long. But sacrificing the turn might be a deal breaker. Considering I suck at flips and street skating in general, I need the most tranny, slappy, curb friendly type geometry I can get
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 19, 2021, 10:34:07 PM
They are usually a lot lighter and widen the wheelbase if you care about that....ace gear is low key not bad but venture is superior...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 19, 2021, 11:06:21 PM
They are usually a lot lighter and widen the wheelbase if you care about that....ace gear is low key not bad but venture is superior...

LOs with a forged baseplate have the best pinch in the business. I feel much more confident going for long crooked grinds on those than any other truck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on August 22, 2021, 06:03:24 PM
Pulled the trigger on some 5.8 standards and put em on an 8.5" board with a 14.25" wheelbase. Supercush clears 88a bushings and I waxed the pivot cups. I'm heavier so there was tons of wheelbite at first. Took them off and put some Bones 1/8" risers underneath. That's when things clicked...I fucking love these trucks. Still an excellent turn, just as good as Indy and even more stable. The grind is nice and smooth, and the no hang-up yoke with the low kingpin allows me to not have to worry about inverted kingpins. I'm kinda shocked after all these years on Ace that I ended up here but it's kind of a funny and cool feeling. Ventures from here on out, cheers gents.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 22, 2021, 08:34:33 PM
Has anyone ever written Venture and asked why they don't do a Cast Hollow or Cast Ti? It seems everyone I know frankentrucks and almost no one rides forged plates.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on August 22, 2021, 08:40:36 PM
Pulled the trigger on some 5.8 standards and put em on an 8.5" board with a 14.25" wheelbase. Supercush clears 88a bushings and I waxed the pivot cups. I'm heavier so there was tons of wheelbite at first. Took them off and put some Bones 1/8" risers underneath. That's when things clicked...I fucking love these trucks. Still an excellent turn, just as good as Indy and even more stable. The grind is nice and smooth, and the no hang-up yoke with the low kingpin allows me to not have to worry about inverted kingpins. I'm kinda shocked after all these years on Ace that I ended up here but it's kind of a funny and cool feeling. Ventures from here on out, cheers gents.
Hell yeah man. I just bought some 1/4" risers for my 5.8's and it's a game changer. I've tried riding other trucks but I always end up back on venture. I'll only ride Indy's if I have to.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on August 23, 2021, 05:21:29 AM
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Pulled the trigger on some 5.8 standards and put em on an 8.5" board with a 14.25" wheelbase. Supercush clears 88a bushings and I waxed the pivot cups. I'm heavier so there was tons of wheelbite at first. Took them off and put some Bones 1/8" risers underneath. That's when things clicked...I fucking love these trucks. Still an excellent turn, just as good as Indy and even more stable. The grind is nice and smooth, and the no hang-up yoke with the low kingpin allows me to not have to worry about inverted kingpins. I'm kinda shocked after all these years on Ace that I ended up here but it's kind of a funny and cool feeling. Ventures from here on out, cheers gents.
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Hell yeah man. I just bought some 1/4" risers for my 5.8's and it's a game changer. I've tried riding other trucks but I always end up back on venture. I'll only ride Indy's if I have to.

I'll never go back to Indy man, Ace if I had to step off the Ventures. What size wheels do you run with such a high set-up?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on August 23, 2021, 10:44:14 AM
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Pulled the trigger on some 5.8 standards and put em on an 8.5" board with a 14.25" wheelbase. Supercush clears 88a bushings and I waxed the pivot cups. I'm heavier so there was tons of wheelbite at first. Took them off and put some Bones 1/8" risers underneath. That's when things clicked...I fucking love these trucks. Still an excellent turn, just as good as Indy and even more stable. The grind is nice and smooth, and the no hang-up yoke with the low kingpin allows me to not have to worry about inverted kingpins. I'm kinda shocked after all these years on Ace that I ended up here but it's kind of a funny and cool feeling. Ventures from here on out, cheers gents.
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Hell yeah man. I just bought some 1/4" risers for my 5.8's and it's a game changer. I've tried riding other trucks but I always end up back on venture. I'll only ride Indy's if I have to.
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I'll never go back to Indy man, Ace if I had to step off the Ventures. What size wheels do you run with such a high set-up?
Yeah I don't blame you man. I've never tried ace and I think it's best that I don't lmao. Bit I usually ride 54 mm wheels. Now that my bushings are breaking in I don't think I need the risers.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: NeimanMarxist on August 23, 2021, 05:16:34 PM
I switched over from ace and I’m never going back. Regular 5.6 is the gold standard truck as far as I’m concerned
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cosmicgypsies on August 24, 2021, 09:55:41 AM
just got back from my first skate after putting in the supercush orange 90a bushings with a flat washer and 1/8 risers - fucking brilliant. i've always been the kind of person who when it comes to new trucks/bushings/etc i will fiddle with the tightness/adjust them a shit ton, absolutely none of that with these and more importantly no wheelbite. was throwing a back 180 down this little drop off and kept doing that annoying shit where you lean too much and end up doing a full fucking curve and coming back the direction you started - no pinch whatsoever.

ive been fucking around with trucks the last few years and my ranking was thunder > stock venture > indy but i think this setup has usurped thunder to take top place. fucking lovely.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 24, 2021, 10:10:33 AM
I switched over from ace and I’m never going back. Regular 5.6 is the gold standard truck as far as I’m concerned

I have the 5.6 in Titanium and V-Hollow but I still feel compelled to get the Standard, it just looks proper.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: smoked salmon on August 24, 2021, 05:58:14 PM
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I switched over from ace and I’m never going back. Regular 5.6 is the gold standard truck as far as I’m concerned
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I have the 5.6 in Titanium and V-Hollow but I still feel compelled to get the Standard, it just looks proper.

I'm riding 5.6 regular and feel compelled to get some V-hollows.
As for the 5.6 being gold standard I concur, last rode ventures 15 years ago and have just gone back after I quick dance with thunders then a long term with Indy, best decision I made, love em. (8.25 Deluxe and 53mm spities)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on August 29, 2021, 06:46:15 PM
Next setup imma get will be 8.25 mellowish deck with 5.8s, 1/8 risers, and 56mm wheels

Rn its 8.25 with 149 thunders, 1/8 risers, and 54s

before it was 8.5 with ace 44 classics and 53s

I feel like its how my evolution is supposed to be like. Shittier feeling grinds, better stability, bigger wheels, better pinch.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on August 30, 2021, 08:06:18 AM
Does anybody knows or thinks that's there's a 9-9,1 width ventures in the works? I want to go up to 9" decks but I don't want to leave ventures, they just feel perfect.

I tried to skate trucks with wider boards and doesn't work for me.

was wondering bout the same thing, whether there's a 9.0/9.125 venture in the near future..otherwise,hv to go thunder 161s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thebacker on September 01, 2021, 02:34:26 PM
whoever recommended those deluxe orange bushings...youre a god
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on September 01, 2021, 03:15:13 PM
Still have a pair of cast Bobby’s but where are you all finding 5.8 Ti trucks. I haven’t seen any Venture TI in the wild in a longggg time…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 01, 2021, 06:29:47 PM
Still have a pair of cast Bobby’s but where are you all finding 5.8 Ti trucks. I haven’t seen any Venture TI in the wild in a longggg time…

Impossible to find since early 2020, whatever is available is old P-Rod golden eagle stock or before that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Daniel on September 01, 2021, 07:37:07 PM
Does the upgrade to supercush 88 and riptide cups make a huge difference? I’ve waxed the stock cups and bushings and loosened to flush, still wanting more response and turn…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on September 02, 2021, 06:05:31 AM
Does the upgrade to supercush 88 and riptide cups make a huge difference? I’ve waxed the stock cups and bushings and loosened to flush, still wanting more response and turn…
Just get bones and use only what comes in the box in terms of washers if you want to ride Venture but get the response and turn of more of an Indy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on September 02, 2021, 06:38:56 AM
Does the upgrade to supercush 88 and riptide cups make a huge difference? I’ve waxed the stock cups and bushings and loosened to flush, still wanting more response and turn…

definitely helps.  but as the poster above me said, if you swap the stock top washers to flat ones(bones) you will likely notice much more of a difference in the turn
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Daniel on September 02, 2021, 09:57:14 AM
Right on thank you guys. Interested in the Indy conical bushings with flat washers too, any good?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on September 02, 2021, 11:00:58 AM
i personally dont like conical bushings, but i actually have never tried them in Ventures.  i tossed them in my last pair of Indys like 3 years ago and it was too unstable/wobbly feeling for me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Daniel on September 03, 2021, 05:45:40 PM
Any experience on quasi decks? Skating the dlx 8.06 14.38 wb and feels great. Wondering if going to 14.25 on quasi would be worth it…
Mainly curious after seeing some recent clips of Gilbert and Nick matthews. Even the recent stuff of Carl and Erik on girl boards w venture…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on September 03, 2021, 07:09:10 PM
Any experience on quasi decks? Skating the dlx 8.06 14.38 wb and feels great. Wondering if going to 14.25 on quasi would be worth it…
Mainly curious after seeing some recent clips of Gilbert and Nick matthews. Even the recent stuff of Carl and Erik on girl boards w venture…
I'm skating a krooked 8.25 with the same wb on ventures as well. I have a quasi and a Real full se with a 14.25 wb and a primitive with a 14 wb. I have skated a chocolate with a 14 wb and it felt nice. You'll probably like it better.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on September 03, 2021, 07:15:15 PM
Any experience on quasi decks? Skating the dlx 8.06 14.38 wb and feels great. Wondering if going to 14.25 on quasi would be worth it…
Mainly curious after seeing some recent clips of Gilbert and Nick matthews. Even the recent stuff of Carl and Erik on girl boards w venture…

Love the combination. I've got the 8.5 proto (14.25 wb), with 5.8 Frankenstein-ed forge plate/cast hang, and it's been working out great. The shallower tail might need a little getting used to if you're coming from DLX.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Daniel on September 03, 2021, 10:07:51 PM
Fuck man the indecision between dims are killing me haha might just end up repurchasing/sticking with the 8.06 for consistency sake… I’m looking for that go to board and setup I can find easily. switching to venture and seeing all these great skaters on them got me psyched to know what setups/boards they’re all riding!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 04, 2021, 07:43:57 AM
Does the upgrade to supercush 88 and riptide cups make a huge difference? I’ve waxed the stock cups and bushings and loosened to flush, still wanting more response and turn…

I pulled my old riptide pivot cups from my thunders and it made a world of difference.  I have them with bones, and I'd go as far as saying its a turny truck.....never will be like an ace or even an Indy but you get some swerve.....

When you even look at the pivot cups you can see how the venture ones are stiff thin vinyl shit....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bruno_Herrera on September 08, 2021, 07:17:53 PM
Just had my first session on my first pair of Ventures, 5.6 v-lights, and they felt amazing. Perfect weight and pretty decent turning imo (nut flush), coming from indys, yeah the change is jarring, but I actually love how much more control I have on the board, especially when doing 180s. I just hope that the bushings don't blow out too soon, since the last time I had DLX bushing (thunders) they were unskateable after like a month. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: toe_knee on September 08, 2021, 07:37:44 PM
Does the upgrade to supercush 88 and riptide cups make a huge difference? I’ve waxed the stock cups and bushings and loosened to flush, still wanting more response and turn…

Yes…yes it does
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on September 09, 2021, 05:58:01 AM
You can't get hollow 5.2 Lows anywhere in europe at all. Have they been discontinued or what
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 09, 2021, 06:33:39 AM
You can't get hollow 5.2 Lows anywhere in europe at all. Have they been discontinued or what


*** Just typed all that and looked back to realise you asked about hollows...  so after looking around, I would say YES to being discontinued EVERYWHERE, as they are not listed on the web site and there seem to be none anywhere in stock, with the last catalog showing them in 2020.  There might be old stock somewhere, if you look though.


Regular 5.2 low are available everywhere though:

Shows a half dozen styles on the website and looking online (globally) there are some around, but I guess maybe none in your area, but I did notice some have them as 5.2 and others 5.25 or some with lo and others with low, but they are all the same size trucks.

https://venturetrucks.net/


These places show them in stock:

https://www.skatewarehouse.co.uk/products/venture-pro-raw-skateboard-trucks-low-5-2

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-trucks-all-polished-low-5-25-truck-silver-8_p118806

https://www.titus-shop.com/en/venture-truck-5.2-low-all-polished-0120978/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on September 09, 2021, 11:47:23 AM
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You can't get hollow 5.2 Lows anywhere in europe at all. Have they been discontinued or what
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*** Just typed all that and looked back to realise you asked about hollows...  so after looking around, I would say YES to being discontinued EVERYWHERE, as they are not listed on the web site and there seem to be none anywhere in stock, with the last catalog showing them in 2020.  There might be old stock somewhere, if you look though.


Regular 5.2 low are available everywhere though:

Shows a half dozen styles on the website and looking online (globally) there are some around, but I guess maybe none in your area, but I did notice some have them as 5.2 and others 5.25 or some with lo and others with low, but they are all the same size trucks.

https://venturetrucks.net/


These places show them in stock:

https://www.skatewarehouse.co.uk/products/venture-pro-raw-skateboard-trucks-low-5-2

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-trucks-all-polished-low-5-25-truck-silver-8_p118806

https://www.titus-shop.com/en/venture-truck-5.2-low-all-polished-0120978/

Daaaaam.

That's actually gutting news to hear.

Fuck

I have the regular casts. At the moment I'm rocking 5.0 hollow Los with 3 washers on inside axel. They're the business but nearing end of life.

If any pals see this and have 5.2 hollow low for sale hit me up.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Velcro Wallet on September 09, 2021, 03:53:41 PM
I bought some Venture hollow highs and right out of the gate I thought “what have I done..” but stuck with them. Stock everything. Purple bushings etc. Got them for HELLA cheap. Skated curbs from a few days and destroyed them.

As they broke in I found myself loving them!! Only thing that spun me out was how long the holes were drilled back on the front of the trucks. I thought I might have defects (seeing how cheap they were) but turns out normal.

I’ve been on Thunder’s for the last 10 - 15 years (always with bones) and Ventures are a pretty good option. The ones I skated all through the 90-00’s were awesome/terrible. The axels would move if you blew on them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on September 09, 2021, 09:33:47 PM
You can't get hollow 5.2 Lows anywhere in europe at all. Have they been discontinued or what

I have been rocking a pair I got last year. Think I put them on March 2020, and they are still going strong albeit a nice crook groove. They are just hollow king pin though, not hollow axel . I haven’t seen another pair anywhere since last summer though . Just 5.2 High hollow lights, which I have a pair ready to go but I’m just scared to make the jump . 

Hoping they make a 5.2 low hollow light again someday (kingpin and axel hollow )
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: camel filters on September 10, 2021, 07:22:22 AM
Gilbert Crockett pro truck at 0:47. I don't do painted hangers but its weird that it only comes in 5.2 low and 5.6 according to frank.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 10, 2021, 08:49:04 PM
Gilbert Crockett pro truck at 0:47. I don't do painted hangers but its weird that it only comes in 5.2 low and 5.6 according to frank.

I haven't checked back over the current catalogs for the Gilbert truck, but even just looking at the web site, the only trucks that come in all sizes are the team editions, with all the other pro trucks coming in one or two sizes that offset each other.

https://venturetrucks.net/


* Edit: Found them in the Fall drop - Gilbert Crockett gloss black with white "C" on the hanger come in 5.2 lo, 5.6 and 5.8 with white bushings.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on September 11, 2021, 05:16:36 AM
Is there a link to the fall catalog to see the gilbert venture trucks or can someone post a photo of them?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on September 11, 2021, 05:30:49 AM
Ok stupid question. Are the titanium's lighter than the hollows?

I see they still make them in 5.2 low
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on September 11, 2021, 05:31:42 AM
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Gilbert Crockett pro truck at 0:47. I don't do painted hangers but its weird that it only comes in 5.2 low and 5.6 according to frank.
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I haven't checked back over the current catalogs for the Gilbert truck, but even just looking at the web site, the only trucks that come in all sizes are the team editions, with all the other pro trucks coming in one or two sizes that offset each other.

https://venturetrucks.net/


* Edit: Found them in the Fall drop - Gilbert Crockett gloss black with white "C" on the hanger come in 5.2 lo, 5.6 and 5.8 with white bushings.


Wait how long has Gilbert been on venture? I always thought he was on Indy
Title: Re: Venture 2021
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 11, 2021, 05:34:27 AM
Is there a link to the fall catalog to see the gilbert venture trucks or can someone post a photo of them?

Gilbert Crockett pro truck at 0:47. I don't do painted hangers but its weird that it only comes in 5.2 low and 5.6 according to frank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qPiHuWUTvQ


Screen grab from the video:


(https://i.ibb.co/M6DSTK1/Stock-Report-Venture-Crockett-Truck.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Zm6Xsvg)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cosmicgypsies on September 11, 2021, 05:37:43 AM
Does the upgrade to supercush 88 and riptide cups make a huge difference? I’ve waxed the stock cups and bushings and loosened to flush, still wanting more response and turn…

havent fucked with pivot cups yet, but 90a supercush with flat washers are probably my favourite bushing/truck combo i've discovered.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 11, 2021, 05:58:35 AM

Wait how long has Gilbert been on venture? I always thought he was on Indy

I thought there was a thread about it from about this time last year.

Here you go:


https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112571.0
Title: Re: Venture 2021
Post by: jsettle on September 11, 2021, 06:29:26 AM
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Is there a link to the fall catalog to see the gilbert venture trucks or can someone post a photo of them?
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Gilbert Crockett pro truck at 0:47. I don't do painted hangers but its weird that it only comes in 5.2 low and 5.6 according to frank.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qPiHuWUTvQ


Screen grab from the video:


(https://i.ibb.co/M6DSTK1/Stock-Report-Venture-Crockett-Truck.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Zm6Xsvg)

Thanks man! I normally watch these but didnt watch this one yet. Figured they would of let him draw his own little thing for his trucks since he draws alot of cool traditional tattoo type of stuff. I remember when he would talk so much shit about venture when all his friends switched to venture from indy hahaha.
Title: Re: Venture 2021
Post by: camel filters on September 11, 2021, 07:01:01 AM
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Is there a link to the fall catalog to see the gilbert venture trucks or can someone post a photo of them?
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Gilbert Crockett pro truck at 0:47. I don't do painted hangers but its weird that it only comes in 5.2 low and 5.6 according to frank.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qPiHuWUTvQ


Screen grab from the video:


(https://i.ibb.co/M6DSTK1/Stock-Report-Venture-Crockett-Truck.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Zm6Xsvg)
Thank you for posting the actual video. I could have sworn I pasted the link but had a brain fart apparently.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 11, 2021, 09:27:23 AM
Ok stupid question. Are the titanium's lighter than the hollows?

I see they still make them in 5.2 low

Yes, by around 20g?

And where are you seeing them? I've seen loads of counterfeit ones on Aliexpress and Alibaba. Usually the P-Rod Golden eagle one.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on September 11, 2021, 10:08:06 AM
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Ok stupid question. Are the titanium's lighter than the hollows?

I see they still make them in 5.2 low
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Yes, by around 20g?

And where are you seeing them? I've seen loads of counterfeit ones on Aliexpress and Alibaba. Usually the P-Rod Golden eagle one.

Thanks dog

I just saw them on their summer catalog

Now one more question which is really pernickety

Is the wheelbase the same as the hollows?

Have you ever skated them? Are they too light? What's the grind like ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 11, 2021, 04:32:15 PM
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Ok stupid question. Are the titanium's lighter than the hollows?

I see they still make them in 5.2 low
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Yes, by around 20g?

And where are you seeing them? I've seen loads of counterfeit ones on Aliexpress and Alibaba. Usually the P-Rod Golden eagle one.
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Thanks dog

I just saw them on their summer catalog

Now one more question which is really pernickety

Is the wheelbase the same as the hollows?

Have you ever skated them? Are they too light? What's the grind like ?

Same wheelbase I assume, I keep my baseplate on and swap between my 5.6 V-Hollow or Titanium hanger when I want more or less weight on my board. On a thinner setup with skinny wheels I'd go with the V-Hollows.

They both grind the same and the weight is noticeable but not game changing like an Indy that is heavy as is. Can't go wrong with either but go for the TI if you can afford it, wouldn't say the same for Thunder because it's already very light and the weight reduction hurts the performance.

The grind is very hard for a start, much harder Metal than Thunder but I love it, it feels beefy. And that pinch can be beat, especially on the 5.2 Lo,
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: newguy on September 12, 2021, 02:09:50 AM
I have real problem with ventures, I wrecked my first set by blowing out the pivot cups, skating metal on metal for months until i took them appart and realised I now had to fork out a significant amount of money to replace them. FF a few months and now my pivot cups are again coming apart, everyone in my crew I talk to tells me they never replaced their cups in years of skating and some were even clueless that their trucks had pivot cups in them. So am I unlucky or have some of you encountered this problem too? And if this is of any significance I ride my trucks on the very loose side.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 12, 2021, 02:49:14 AM
I have real problem with ventures, I wrecked my first set by blowing out the pivot cups, skating metal on metal for months until i took them appart and realised I now had to fork out a significant amount of money to replace them. FF a few months and now my pivot cups are again coming apart, everyone in my crew I talk to tells me they never replaced their cups in years of skating and some were even clueless that their trucks had pivot cups in them. So am I unlucky or have some of you encountered this problem too? And if this is of any significance I ride my trucks on the very loose side.


I have definitely noticed if the trucks pivot point is damaged, new replacement pivot cups never last as long, compared to those trucks that have undamaged pivot points.  Trying to smooth down or take sharp edges off pivot points works a bit but often the change in shape or length of the pivot point will alter the turn of the truck too, or how much it will sit down in there.

Regardless of loose or tight trucks, the bushings can also change the angle of the hanger for better or worse too, so if the bushings sit lower (especially the bottom bushing) then the pivot point will also change and put more pressure on the hanger end.


Silly as it may sound, putting a bit of shoe goo in and around the pivot point and letting it half dry is one way I know people have been able to sort out their pivot cup issues with damaged or worn down pivot point on the hangers.

Keeping an eye on the trucks also helps, but you don't have to keep taking them off after every session to check.  Seen people do that and go through a lot of pivot cups way too quickly without them even being worn out, more from the fear of having an issue with them than anything else.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: newguy on September 12, 2021, 04:27:25 AM
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I have real problem with ventures, I wrecked my first set by blowing out the pivot cups, skating metal on metal for months until i took them appart and realised I now had to fork out a significant amount of money to replace them. FF a few months and now my pivot cups are again coming apart, everyone in my crew I talk to tells me they never replaced their cups in years of skating and some were even clueless that their trucks had pivot cups in them. So am I unlucky or have some of you encountered this problem too? And if this is of any significance I ride my trucks on the very loose side.
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I have definitely noticed if the trucks pivot point is damaged, new replacement pivot cups never last as long, compared to those trucks that have undamaged pivot points.  Trying to smooth down or take sharp edges off pivot points works a bit but often the change in shape or length of the pivot point will alter the turn of the truck too, or how much it will sit down in there.

Regardless of loose or tight trucks, the bushings can also change the angle of the hanger for better or worse too, so if the bushings sit lower (especially the bottom bushing) then the pivot point will also change and put more pressure on the hanger end.


Silly as it may sound, putting a bit of shoe goo in and around the pivot point and letting it half dry is one way I know people have been able to sort out their pivot cup issues with damaged or worn down pivot point on the hangers.

Keeping an eye on the trucks also helps, but you don't have to keep taking them off after every session to check.  Seen people do that and go through a lot of pivot cups way too quickly without them even being worn out, more from the fear of having an issue with them than anything else.

Oh yes I forgot to mention my trucks are somewhat low as well, thanks for the shoe too tip, I’ll try that out for sure. My trucks aren’t damaged thankfully (I’m still hurting from finding out how expensive trucks can be) so I really only need to switch out the old crummy ones and pop some fresh ones back in. I really wish someone had told me about gear maintenance before my trucks went crazy, I lost all my tricks and landed primo half of the time!  ;D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: big_kev_215 on September 13, 2021, 05:24:51 PM
In an effort to get the urge to try them out of my system, I set up a set of Venture 5.2 Lo’s (the regular polished team ones) that I had bought sometime last year and never skated on my board today.  I have to admit - after the initial shock of not being able to really turn wore off (coming from Ace 44s) it was a great session.  I haven’t skated Venture Lo’s since about 2001/2002 and I’m a bit of a sucker for the nostalgia of the late 90’s early 2000’s Philly/San Francisco/New York skating vibes that I associate with the trucks. 

The pop is so quick and snappy that skating lower ledges/benches is effortless.  It was a trip grinding down the kingpin/nut almost right away (haven’t experienced that in many years) but overall the grind wasn’t horrible.  I strangely also had one of my most consistent days of slappy 5050s ever, despite skating 8 inch, low trucks on an 8.25” deck, which breaks every rule I’ve heard regarding good slappy board setups.  The biggest downside (other than the turning) was the wheelbite.  I’m skating 54 mm conical fulls that are probably worn down to 52ish mm.  Not sure I could ever sacrifice smooth riding and go smaller or to a thinner shape. 

Overall I’m pleasantly surprised and it feels kinda good to skate something totally different than the Ace or Venture highs I see every day (and skate myself usually). Probably against my better judgement I think I’ll actually carry these over to my next setup and see where it takes me. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: newguy on September 14, 2021, 12:53:24 AM
Alright I changed my pivot cups for the second time and wow, I did not remember how ridiculously hard it was to remove them  ;D
After almost stabbing myself with a screwdriver I went out for a session and damn, new pivot cups don’t feel good at all. Guess you need time for them to set in nice and good but it’s frustrating to fail tricks you’ve somewhat understood. Guess the shoe goo drop tip prevents that, will def do that next time
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: toe_knee on September 14, 2021, 05:20:11 AM
Alright I changed my pivot cups for the second time and wow, I did not remember how ridiculously hard it was to remove them  ;D
After almost stabbing myself with a screwdriver I went out for a session and damn, new pivot cups don’t feel good at all. Guess you need time for them to set in nice and good but it’s frustrating to fail tricks you’ve somewhat understood. Guess the shoe goo drop tip prevents that, will def do that next time

I got some aftermarket pivot cups from riptide, people are prolly tired of hearing me pipe up about them, but I really stand behind their shit, I got the venture pvivot cups they make, hhuuuugggeee difference, give them a shot if you have the extra skrilla
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 14, 2021, 05:37:44 AM
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Alright I changed my pivot cups for the second time and wow, I did not remember how ridiculously hard it was to remove them  ;D
After almost stabbing myself with a screwdriver I went out for a session and damn, new pivot cups don’t feel good at all. Guess you need time for them to set in nice and good but it’s frustrating to fail tricks you’ve somewhat understood. Guess the shoe goo drop tip prevents that, will def do that next time
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I got some aftermarket pivot cups from riptide, people are prolly tired of hearing me pipe up about them, but I really stand behind their shit, I got the venture pvivot cups they make, hhuuuugggeee difference, give them a shot if you have the extra skrilla

Kindly elaborate, I just swapped mine out for some generic ones, didn't notice any difference from the old ones.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: toe_knee on September 14, 2021, 06:22:06 AM
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Alright I changed my pivot cups for the second time and wow, I did not remember how ridiculously hard it was to remove them  ;D
After almost stabbing myself with a screwdriver I went out for a session and damn, new pivot cups don’t feel good at all. Guess you need time for them to set in nice and good but it’s frustrating to fail tricks you’ve somewhat understood. Guess the shoe goo drop tip prevents that, will def do that next time
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I got some aftermarket pivot cups from riptide, people are prolly tired of hearing me pipe up about them, but I really stand behind their shit, I got the venture pvivot cups they make, hhuuuugggeee difference, give them a shot if you have the extra skrilla
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Kindly elaborate, I just swapped mine out for some generic ones, didn't notice any difference from the old ones.

Cushier ride, not having to dig so much with my heel or toe to get the carve I want going into slappies, they machine each pivot cup to that specific truck as well, so if you buy venture pivot cups they are made for venture, they broke in quite quickly too, I think that has to do with them being Internally lubricated or some shit, I’m not a scientist, but do you, I get made fun of for my gear madness in my friend group, but I feel like they have definitely helped me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: newguy on September 14, 2021, 09:04:05 AM
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Alright I changed my pivot cups for the second time and wow, I did not remember how ridiculously hard it was to remove them  ;D
After almost stabbing myself with a screwdriver I went out for a session and damn, new pivot cups don’t feel good at all. Guess you need time for them to set in nice and good but it’s frustrating to fail tricks you’ve somewhat understood. Guess the shoe goo drop tip prevents that, will def do that next time
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I got some aftermarket pivot cups from riptide, people are prolly tired of hearing me pipe up about them, but I really stand behind their shit, I got the venture pvivot cups they make, hhuuuugggeee difference, give them a shot if you have the extra skrilla
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Kindly elaborate, I just swapped mine out for some generic ones, didn't notice any difference from the old ones.
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Cushier ride, not having to dig so much with my heel or toe to get the carve I want going into slappies, they machine each pivot cup to that specific truck as well, so if you buy venture pivot cups they are made for venture, they broke in quite quickly too, I think that has to do with them being Internally lubricated or some shit, I’m not a scientist, but do you, I get made fun of for my gear madness in my friend group, but I feel like they have definitely helped me

I could definitely see someone specialise in pivot cup science in an MIT advanced materials course :D
Jokes aside, I’ll be sure to check em out when my current cups end up carking it, shouldn’t be too long with my usual luck in skate gear. Thanks for the recommendation!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on September 16, 2021, 06:20:10 AM
finally received them..Venture 6.1

(https://i.ibb.co/QfMwmKz/IMG-20210914-205933.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QfMwmKz)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 16, 2021, 09:52:46 AM
Just switched to Venture from Indy. Overall they’re pretty close despite the dimensions and have their strengths and weaknesses. One thing I haven’t figured out yet are manuals. On Indys I always put my feet a bit diagonal starting in the pocket so I could use the foot that’s on the ground to lean toe/heel to control it. Doesn’t seem to work and they feel heavy on Ventures but I’m sure it’s user error, is there perhaps a different technique that would make them easier?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 16, 2021, 05:14:26 PM
Just switched to Venture from Indy. Overall they’re pretty close despite the dimensions and have their strengths and weaknesses. One thing I haven’t figured out yet are manuals. On Indys I always put my feet a bit diagonal starting in the pocket so I could use the foot that’s on the ground to lean toe/heel to control it. Doesn’t seem to work and they feel heavy on Ventures but I’m sure it’s user error, is there perhaps a different technique that would make them easier?

Muscle memory is a funny thing, as you will be so used to the manual point with Indy, which is different to Venture (and Thunder and Ace, etc) but the main thing is just stick with it and you will get used to the different manual point soon enough.

I know some people will throw a fit and go back to whatever brand they had before, just because the different trucks felt too different and things didn't work for them, but I feel like putting in the time and just rolling around will help get used to them, rather than getting angry and whatever else.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MadeYouLook on September 16, 2021, 05:18:29 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CT5f-n3P4Wm/?utm_medium=copy_link
Title: Re: Venture 2021
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 16, 2021, 05:31:51 PM

Thank you for posting the actual video. I could have sworn I pasted the link but had a brain fart apparently.

You did post in the other thread (so you are not going mad) and I kept thinking I know I had seen you post it here before too, but it wasn't until @ MadeYouLook posted the Venture post from Instagram that I remembered and went looking:

Re: Gilbert Crockett on venture?

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112571.msg3634897#msg3634897



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on September 16, 2021, 05:44:56 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CT5f-n3P4Wm/?utm_medium=copy_link
Necessity. Does anyone know when these are dropping?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yatallfreak on September 16, 2021, 06:22:09 PM
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Necessity. Does anyone know when these are dropping?
They went live for shops to order them this week so definitely soon
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on September 16, 2021, 06:55:29 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CT5f-n3P4Wm/?utm_medium=copy_link
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Necessity. Does anyone know when these are dropping?
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They went live for shops to order them this week so definitely soon
Perfect thanks man
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 16, 2021, 08:04:34 PM
I wanna werk for venture.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: toe_knee on September 16, 2021, 08:38:00 PM
Just switched to Venture from Indy. Overall they’re pretty close despite the dimensions and have their strengths and weaknesses. One thing I haven’t figured out yet are manuals. On Indys I always put my feet a bit diagonal starting in the pocket so I could use the foot that’s on the ground to lean toe/heel to control it. Doesn’t seem to work and they feel heavy on Ventures but I’m sure it’s user error, is there perhaps a different technique that would make them easier?

You’ll get used to them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 17, 2021, 07:32:55 AM
I shall carry on then. It’s good to be close to the end of truck madness.

Also I don’t know about anyone else but once I grind them in a little I feel the harshness of the grind goes away.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 17, 2021, 10:09:33 AM
I shall carry on then. It’s good to be close to the end of truck madness.

Also I don’t know about anyone else but once I grind them in a little I feel the harshness of the grind goes away.

You'll be back...
They always come back...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on September 17, 2021, 11:45:35 AM
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I shall carry on then. It’s good to be close to the end of truck madness.

Also I don’t know about anyone else but once I grind them in a little I feel the harshness of the grind goes away.
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You'll be back...
They always come back...

Aint that the truth brother. Ventures have really calmed everything down for me though. All factors have given the overall feeling of satisfaction to be more than adequate and I've been able to move on from my long relationship with Ace.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 17, 2021, 12:59:09 PM
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I shall carry on then. It’s good to be close to the end of truck madness.

Also I don’t know about anyone else but once I grind them in a little I feel the harshness of the grind goes away.
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You'll be back...
They always come back...

don't put these vibes out into the cosmos....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 17, 2021, 02:30:48 PM
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I shall carry on then. It’s good to be close to the end of truck madness.

Also I don’t know about anyone else but once I grind them in a little I feel the harshness of the grind goes away.
[close]

You'll be back...
They always come back...
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don't put these vibes out into the cosmos....
been on ventures exclusively for a year+ and see no sensible reason to switch. found the bushing/washer combo i liked and havent looked back
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 17, 2021, 10:54:50 PM
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I shall carry on then. It’s good to be close to the end of truck madness.

Also I don’t know about anyone else but once I grind them in a little I feel the harshness of the grind goes away.
[close]

You'll be back...
They always come back...
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Aint that the truth brother. Ventures have really calmed everything down for me though. All factors have given the overall feeling of satisfaction to be more than adequate and I've been able to move on from my long relationship with Ace.

Hell even among Ventures I feel like I should go down from 5.6 VH to the 5.2 VH just for the pinch. Doesn't help that I'm on 54mm wheels now, so more height.

5.2 VH with a 52mm wheel is just the best pinching combo IMO.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 17, 2021, 11:15:08 PM
I'm kicking around the idea of setting up an 8....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 17, 2021, 11:42:53 PM
I'm kicking around the idea of setting up an 8....

Same, I'm thinking of going from 8.25 to 8.0 just to do 5.2s again, scratch that itch.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Peepeeboy69 on September 18, 2021, 05:53:21 AM
im thinking about setting up a tiny 7.75 on venture 5.0...

zumiez has 5.0 on sale for $15 too

i usually skate 8.25 on thunder 149
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 18, 2021, 06:33:53 AM
I bought 5.2 lo yesterday just to try for shits and giggles. I normally rock 5.6 and 8.25, so stepping down won’t be all that significant. I’ve got forged plates in case I wanna try that so I’m set.

The one thing I’m considering are Riptides, but I’ve never ridden. I like the stock bushings a lot and washers seem fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on September 18, 2021, 06:42:53 AM
I bought 5.2 lo yesterday just to try for shits and giggles. I normally rock 5.6 and 8.25, so stepping down won’t be all that significant. I’ve got forged plates in case I wanna try that so I’m set.

The one thing I’m considering are Riptides, but I’ve never ridden. I like the stock bushings a lot and washers seem fine.

I have some on my nostalgia setup (forged plates) with stock bushings and riptides. They rule, but the riptides don't make enough of a difference when you're working with that turning radius.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 18, 2021, 07:43:07 AM
id get them because the pivots last awhile and you can put them in other trucks if you find they don't work.  I think they will though....I put them in my 5.6's....and it's not as if it changes the turning radius but it's a smoother and more responsive turn.  i think the geometry of a venture kicks the shit out of the pivots and so the upgrade makes sense....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Peepeeboy69 on September 18, 2021, 08:00:13 PM
I got a pair of 5.0 ventures at zumiez for $23

on the website they're $15/truck tho so im assuming theres some extra discounts in person?

flip stick time :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on September 19, 2021, 04:16:36 AM
I can get 5.2 low v-lights pretty handy but I really wanna get the hollows. Will cost me a fortune in shipping.

Is the weight difference that noticable?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 19, 2021, 07:50:55 AM
Part of me thinks get anything you can because I could see them ditching the lo completely.....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on September 19, 2021, 07:59:24 AM
Part of me thinks get anything you can because I could see them ditching the lo completely.....

Really ? Fuck

What makes you think that
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 19, 2021, 08:05:53 AM
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Part of me thinks get anything you can because I could see them ditching the lo completely.....
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Really ? Fuck

What makes you think that

It's Sunday evening, I don't need you ruining the end to my weekend with your crazy theories!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 19, 2021, 01:43:47 PM
Cause Indy did it?  Because Thunder came out with a 161....because venture went with a high on the 5.6...

The trend is clearly going away from narrow trucks, the 5.0's are being blown out for a reason....that just leaves the lone 5.2 as a low?  Venture has a narrower product line than Indy so despite what we think..the brand has grown since they got higher and wider so I could see them sticking to this and peacing the past...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on September 19, 2021, 01:58:18 PM
Cause Indy did it?  Because Thunder came out with a 161....because venture went with a high on the 5.6...

The trend is clearly going away from narrow trucks, the 5.0's are being blown out for a reason....that just leaves the lone 5.2 as a low?  Venture has a narrower product line than Indy so despite what we think..the brand has grown since they got higher and wider so I could see them sticking to this and peacing the past...

i only disagree in the sense that i feel like we won't see lo's go completely but hollow/v-light might phase out.
note: i'm saying this as a 5.0 lo lover and hoping they dont go away
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 20, 2021, 09:06:28 PM
I'm doing set up changes rn.

If anyone in the know is on. Will forged plates be less likely to oval?

I can't help it I ride rattle bolts.

I have 4 brand new cast plates as an option but I'm lazy af. That's why my bolts rattle all the time. Lazy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on September 21, 2021, 05:19:28 AM
I'm doing set up changes rn.

If anyone in the know is on. Will forged plates be less likely to oval?

I can't help it I ride rattle bolts.

I have 4 brand new cast plates as an option but I'm lazy af. That's why my bolts rattle all the time. Lazy
I'm sorry to tell you this but if you're riding your hardware that loose all the time it's not gonna matter what baseplates you use they will oval out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on September 21, 2021, 06:31:50 AM
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I'm doing set up changes rn.

If anyone in the know is on. Will forged plates be less likely to oval?

I can't help it I ride rattle bolts.

I have 4 brand new cast plates as an option but I'm lazy af. That's why my bolts rattle all the time. Lazy
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I'm sorry to tell you this but if you're riding your hardware that loose all the time it's not gonna matter what baseplates you use they will oval out.

Yep, Just need to tighten your shit up
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 21, 2021, 06:55:22 AM
Will putting Ventures on a deck with steep kicks make it feel more mellow or more steep? I’d assume the latter
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 21, 2021, 07:01:16 AM
Will putting Ventures on a deck with steep kicks make it feel more mellow or more steep? I’d assume the latter

Steeper, because it shortens the tail even more by pushing the wheels out more.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on September 21, 2021, 08:37:54 AM
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Will putting Ventures on a deck with steep kicks make it feel more mellow or more steep? I’d assume the latter
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Steeper, because it shortens the tail even more by pushing the wheels out more.

yup. this is why i have trouble with tricks of a FA/Hockey nose.  Gonna do the parked car fix on it this weekend, hopefuly it will mellow.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: HyperBeam on September 21, 2021, 08:54:03 AM
so i bought a set of the 5.6 because a) they were on sale, b) i was kind of curious, c) the trendiness and marketing hype was appealing, and d) mike anderson skates them now.

I set them up to the other day, loosened the kingpin nuts 180 degrees, and even still, I swear to you reader, these trucks did not turn. then i tried a simple flatground 360 flip. not being used to all the switches yet on these new trucks, the board didn't exactly go  forward as when i scooped, but instead got sucked back in a certain way. I landed on the nose and snapped my board right at the baseplate.

we're not off to a good start here, but we'll keep trying and see how it goes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on September 21, 2021, 09:32:45 AM
so i bought a set of the 5.6 because a) they were on sale, b) i was kind of curious, c) the trendiness and marketing hype was appealing, and d) mike anderson skates them now.

I set them up to the other day, loosened the kingpin nuts 180 degrees, and even still, I swear to you reader, these trucks did not turn. then i tried a simple flatground 360 flip. not being used to all the switches yet on these new trucks, the board didn't exactly go  forward as when i scooped, but instead got sucked back in a certain way. I landed on the nose and snapped my board right at the baseplate.

we're not off to a good start here, but we'll keep trying and see how it goes.

I hear ya but you can't judge turn on day one. Gotta break em in. Ventures a bit more than other brands.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on September 21, 2021, 09:38:44 AM
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so i bought a set of the 5.6 because a) they were on sale, b) i was kind of curious, c) the trendiness and marketing hype was appealing, and d) mike anderson skates them now.

I set them up to the other day, loosened the kingpin nuts 180 degrees, and even still, I swear to you reader, these trucks did not turn. then i tried a simple flatground 360 flip. not being used to all the switches yet on these new trucks, the board didn't exactly go  forward as when i scooped, but instead got sucked back in a certain way. I landed on the nose and snapped my board right at the baseplate.

we're not off to a good start here, but we'll keep trying and see how it goes.
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I hear ya but you can't judge turn on day one. Gotta break em in. Ventures a bit more than other brands.
Also Venture has a different geometry than other trucks. No matter how loose they are at anytime you can flex your toe or heel and it’ll primo slide. It’s what gives it great stability and makes flip tricks easy. But if you’re used to Indy or thunder it’ll take a minute.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 21, 2021, 04:40:19 PM
so i bought a set of the 5.6 because a) they were on sale, b) i was kind of curious, c) the trendiness and marketing hype was appealing, and d) mike anderson skates them now.

I set them up to the other day, loosened the kingpin nuts 180 degrees, and even still, I swear to you reader, these trucks did not turn. then i tried a simple flatground 360 flip. not being used to all the switches yet on these new trucks, the board didn't exactly go  forward as when i scooped, but instead got sucked back in a certain way. I landed on the nose and snapped my board right at the baseplate.

we're not off to a good start here, but we'll keep trying and see how it goes.

It's going to take time to get used to it. Took me like 2 weeks of daily use to become 100% coming off aces.

Once you are you can run your trucks shaking loose and they will still be surfy but stable.

Everyone who says ventures don't turn gets on my board and is like These are ventures?!?

In winter I go back to ace.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: HyperBeam on September 21, 2021, 11:50:55 PM
thanks for the encouragement. gonna keep at it. but i'm skeptical whether they'll be preferable even after they break in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on September 22, 2021, 07:05:46 AM
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I shall carry on then. It’s good to be close to the end of truck madness.

Also I don’t know about anyone else but once I grind them in a little I feel the harshness of the grind goes away.
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You'll be back...
They always come back...
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Aint that the truth brother. Ventures have really calmed everything down for me though. All factors have given the overall feeling of satisfaction to be more than adequate and I've been able to move on from my long relationship with Ace.


Going from ace to venture did you change what wb you skate?  I went from ace to Indy. But I have some 5.6 I never really gave a fair shot too. This thread makes me wanna set them up
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on September 22, 2021, 07:53:53 AM
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so i bought a set of the 5.6 because a) they were on sale, b) i was kind of curious, c) the trendiness and marketing hype was appealing, and d) mike anderson skates them now.

I set them up to the other day, loosened the kingpin nuts 180 degrees, and even still, I swear to you reader, these trucks did not turn. then i tried a simple flatground 360 flip. not being used to all the switches yet on these new trucks, the board didn't exactly go  forward as when i scooped, but instead got sucked back in a certain way. I landed on the nose and snapped my board right at the baseplate.

we're not off to a good start here, but we'll keep trying and see how it goes.
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I hear ya but you can't judge turn on day one. Gotta break em in. Ventures a bit more than other brands.

Yep agree 100%. I have a set of 5.2 “lights” (I put a 5.2 high raw hanger on a 5.2 low v-hollow bp) that took ages to get nice and broken in, but it feels great now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on September 22, 2021, 10:44:03 AM
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I shall carry on then. It’s good to be close to the end of truck madness.

Also I don’t know about anyone else but once I grind them in a little I feel the harshness of the grind goes away.
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You'll be back...
They always come back...
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Aint that the truth brother. Ventures have really calmed everything down for me though. All factors have given the overall feeling of satisfaction to be more than adequate and I've been able to move on from my long relationship with Ace.
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Going from ace to venture did you change what wb you skate?  I went from ace to Indy. But I have some 5.6 I never really gave a fair shot too. This thread makes me wanna set them up

I've been riding 14-14.25 wheelbases with Ace's for awhile and didn't like going over that. I've only been skating 14.25wb on Venture's since that's all I could find for a shorter wheelbase in an 8.3-8.6 popsicle lately. Feels perfectly fine. I'm sure a 14.5wb would feel a bit sluggish in the turn so that's why I avoid it even more with these than Ace's.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 22, 2021, 03:22:00 PM
Hollow hangers cast plates is the frickin beez kneez
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on September 24, 2021, 01:03:37 AM
Is there a difference between Venture Team Editions aside from the extra 1mm in height? Does it affect WB any differently than normal cast Ventures?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 24, 2021, 01:46:36 AM
Is there a difference between Venture Team Editions aside from the extra 1mm in height? Does it affect WB any differently than normal cast Ventures?

Cast baseplates add 3.25"
Forged baseplates add 3.4 - 3.5"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 24, 2021, 05:32:40 AM
fall 21 drop 1
andrew wilson and gilbert crockett pro trucks

https://venturetrucks.net/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 24, 2021, 09:18:22 AM
fall 21 drop 1
andrew wilson and gilbert crockett pro trucks

https://venturetrucks.net/

Polished V-Titanium in all sizes.

(https://newfastuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/ScGkh4e.png)

I ain't dealing with another drought of titanium trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: maggot cunt on September 24, 2021, 09:59:29 AM
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fall 21 drop 1
andrew wilson and gilbert crockett pro trucks

https://venturetrucks.net/
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Polished V-Titanium in all sizes.

(https://newfastuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/ScGkh4e.png)

I ain't dealing with another drought of titanium trucks.

are the ti’s that much better than the regular casts ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 24, 2021, 10:42:30 AM
The hangers are considerably lighter so if you franken them together you get a truck that weighs about what an Indy forged hollow does.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on September 24, 2021, 11:36:20 AM
Guess I’m buying more trucks I don’t need
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 24, 2021, 12:30:01 PM
Do lows lengthen or shorten the wheelbase vs high?

Edit: cast 5.2 Lo are +3.25
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on September 24, 2021, 02:44:05 PM
Do lows lengthen or shorten the wheelbase vs high?

Edit: cast 5.2 Lo are +3.25

Cast 5.2 Hi should also be +3.25. I saw in the "WB on your trucks" thread that 5.6 Cast is +3.25 and those only come in a Hi version
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 25, 2021, 07:00:38 AM
Yup, super weird they’re both the same. The lows are great until you wheelbite. I wish I could replicate the flick with highs
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on September 25, 2021, 08:24:14 AM
Yup, super weird they’re both the same. The lows are great until you wheelbite. I wish I could replicate the flick with highs

I literally never wheel bite

What size wheel you riding

52 and below should be fine
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on September 26, 2021, 03:21:17 AM
Would 58mm wheels work on ventures without risers?

Kader skates them and I dont get how he doesnt wheelbite
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 26, 2021, 03:58:44 AM
Would 58mm wheels work on ventures without risers?

Kader skates them and I dont get how he doesnt wheelbite
he skates with risers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 26, 2021, 04:00:50 AM
do i switch to 6.1s for an 8.5 deck or keep running 5.8s? considering selling the 6.1s just need a reason
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on September 26, 2021, 04:52:57 AM
I skated 58mm on some 5.8's and needed 1/4" risers but I ride the 88a supercush's and weigh 230lbs. I at least ride 1/8" risers for 54mm+. I still keep the risers on with my 52mm wheels and I get a nice deep turn with pretty much zero wheelbite whatsoever.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on September 26, 2021, 02:45:07 PM
do i switch to 6.1s for an 8.5 deck or keep running 5.8s? considering selling the 6.1s just need a reason

I'd stick to 5.8
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on September 26, 2021, 02:56:41 PM
If anyone comes across a shop that has the 5.6 Ti can you let me know, I’m close to the axle on mine and I prefer to not get another set of those prod ti’s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 26, 2021, 06:21:37 PM
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do i switch to 6.1s for an 8.5 deck or keep running 5.8s? considering selling the 6.1s just need a reason
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I'd stick to 5.8

Ditto, 6.1 on a 8.5 feels dangerously close to monster truck territory, plus the weight is going to be a bitch.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on September 26, 2021, 07:47:25 PM
do i switch to 6.1s for an 8.5 deck or keep running 5.8s? considering selling the 6.1s just need a reason

i'd keep the 6.1s. just slight poke of the axle nuts if on popsicle 8.5 deck if using classic shape wheels / narrow wheels, the wheels not showing when u see from above.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 26, 2021, 09:13:34 PM
only running conical full/wide wheels on my setups so i might just let them go in the classifieds

looks like im going to be a one truck guy in the end of all the madness. truly full circle
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on September 27, 2021, 09:43:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl9gU1U0518

@1:34 - not sure if it's been mentioned, but Frank says there's a 5.6 low V Light in the line up
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on September 27, 2021, 10:22:27 AM
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Will putting Ventures on a deck with steep kicks make it feel more mellow or more steep? I’d assume the latter
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Steeper, because it shortens the tail even more by pushing the wheels out more.
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yup. this is why i have trouble with tricks of a FA/Hockey nose.  Gonna do the parked car fix on it this weekend, hopefuly it will mellow.

Pardon my douchery, but why don’t you just skate mellower decks?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on September 27, 2021, 10:34:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl9gU1U0518

@1:34 - not sure if it's been mentioned, but Frank says there's a 5.6 low V Light in the line up

Has anyone who's skated both highs and lows comment on how different they feel?

As someone who does a good amount of smith grinds, skates medium loose/tightness with 52mm wheels and hits axle fairly quickly, not sure if they make sense for me. But very curious about these. Lows just look a bit cooler imo.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on September 27, 2021, 11:09:17 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl9gU1U0518

@1:34 - not sure if it's been mentioned, but Frank says there's a 5.6 low V Light in the line up
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Has anyone who's skated both highs and lows comment on how different they feel?

As someone who does a good amount of smith grinds, skates medium loose/tightness with 52mm wheels and hits axle fairly quickly, not sure if they make sense for me. But very curious about these. Lows just look a bit cooler imo.

They feel very different. Pop feel on the lows is unlike any other truck I've ever skated in terms of how light it is, almost kind of the opposite of the highs (in terms of investment, anyways). They also have opposite clearance, the highs being great and the lows hitting kingpin out of the box.

I think most of the rep Venture has in regards to not turning comes from the lows, because they bite so easily. But the pinch is nuts...when I skate them I feel like I have some crooked grind cheat code.

I don't really skate the highs these days and just have some lows on my nostalgia setup. Super fun, but I am way too much of a curb dawg these days to make them my main thing.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on September 27, 2021, 11:36:01 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl9gU1U0518

@1:34 - not sure if it's been mentioned, but Frank says there's a 5.6 low V Light in the line up
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Has anyone who's skated both highs and lows comment on how different they feel?

As someone who does a good amount of smith grinds, skates medium loose/tightness with 52mm wheels and hits axle fairly quickly, not sure if they make sense for me. But very curious about these. Lows just look a bit cooler imo.
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They feel very different. Pop feel on the lows is unlike any other truck I've ever skated in terms of how light it is, almost kind of the opposite of the highs (in terms of investment, anyways). They also have opposite clearance, the highs being great and the lows hitting kingpin out of the box.

I think most of the rep Venture has in regards to not turning comes from the lows, because they bite so easily. But the pinch is nuts...when I skate them I feel like I have some crooked grind cheat code.

I don't really skate the highs these days and just have some lows on my nostalgia setup. Super fun, but I am way too much of a curb dawg these days to make them my main thing.

I see. I don't really have any complaints about how the pop or pinch feel on the highs. Seems like they're still definitely more appropriate for me overall but the lows sound very fun and tempting.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on September 27, 2021, 12:00:11 PM
I DM'd Venture and there is not a 5.6 low truck coming.  Frank just had it wrong.  So bummed.  I want a 5.6 low so bad.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on September 27, 2021, 01:04:02 PM
Damn, but saved me from a difficult decision at least.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 27, 2021, 01:35:18 PM
I’ve been trying lows lately and honestly don’t find the pop feel any better, but for my kickflips they flick faster it seems. Pinch is sick, sharp turns are not possible, overall can’t see why I’d ride them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: big_kev_215 on September 27, 2021, 03:01:47 PM
Was messing around on some 5.2 lows for the last couple weeks and they have their pros and cons.  Just sized down to an 8.00” deck and put my 5.6’s on there.  It just feels kind of balance beamish on a relatively narrower board with high trucks like that.  I really wish the lows didn’t wheelbite so insanely (I skate my trucks loose - don’t know if skating lows loose really helps the turn) because I think they’d help my pop timing on this board.  Going to throw the lows on this 8.00” deck tomorrow with some 53 mm conical fulls and see if it’s rideable.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 27, 2021, 06:20:56 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl9gU1U0518

@1:34 - not sure if it's been mentioned, but Frank says there's a 5.6 low V Light in the line up
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Has anyone who's skated both highs and lows comment on how different they feel?

As someone who does a good amount of smith grinds, skates medium loose/tightness with 52mm wheels and hits axle fairly quickly, not sure if they make sense for me. But very curious about these. Lows just look a bit cooler imo.
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They feel very different. Pop feel on the lows is unlike any other truck I've ever skated in terms of how light it is, almost kind of the opposite of the highs (in terms of investment, anyways). They also have opposite clearance, the highs being great and the lows hitting kingpin out of the box.

I think most of the rep Venture has in regards to not turning comes from the lows, because they bite so easily. But the pinch is nuts...when I skate them I feel like I have some crooked grind cheat code.

I don't really skate the highs these days and just have some lows on my nostalgia setup. Super fun, but I am way too much of a curb dawg these days to make them my main thing.
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I see. I don't really have any complaints about how the pop or pinch feel on the highs. Seems like they're still definitely more appropriate for me overall but the lows sound very fun and tempting.

No complaints here either, but the pinch is so much better on the Lows. I was doing dipped FS Smiths and FS Crooked Grinds fairly consistently when I rode those. Insanely wheelbite-y, but when I pair them with steep decks the Lows gave me such a satisfying pop feel. It was weighty because of the WB extension, yet snappy because of the lowered height.

I keep telling myself to setup an 8.0 to ride the 5.2 Low but I don't skate frequently enough to justify such a big life change.

I DM'd Venture and there is not a 5.6 low truck coming.  Frank just had it wrong.  So bummed.  I want a 5.6 low so bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSY7XH_WW8U

I just unfollowed Frank for blue balling me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 27, 2021, 06:36:54 PM
and so the edge continues
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on September 27, 2021, 08:25:09 PM
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Will putting Ventures on a deck with steep kicks make it feel more mellow or more steep? I’d assume the latter
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Steeper, because it shortens the tail even more by pushing the wheels out more.
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yup. this is why i have trouble with tricks of a FA/Hockey nose.  Gonna do the parked car fix on it this weekend, hopefuly it will mellow.
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Pardon my douchery, but why don’t you just skate mellower decks?

Good question, not douchery.

I've been alternating between a quasi 8.5 and a 917 8.38 lately, both mellower than FAs. Its just I hav a couple hockey's that I love the graphics that I wanna flatten a bit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 28, 2021, 12:44:00 AM
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Will putting Ventures on a deck with steep kicks make it feel more mellow or more steep? I’d assume the latter
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Steeper, because it shortens the tail even more by pushing the wheels out more.
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yup. this is why i have trouble with tricks of a FA/Hockey nose.  Gonna do the parked car fix on it this weekend, hopefuly it will mellow.
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Pardon my douchery, but why don’t you just skate mellower decks?
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Good question, not douchery.

I've been alternating between a quasi 8.5 and a 917 8.38 lately, both mellower than FAs. Its just I hav a couple hockey's that I love the graphics that I wanna flatten a bit.

Because I can't find boards with a deep concave but mellow kicks, open to suggestion is anyone has them.

Usually woodshops do
Steep concave + steep kicks
Mellow concave + mellow kicks
Mellow concave + Steep kicks (DSM)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on September 28, 2021, 04:42:29 AM
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Will putting Ventures on a deck with steep kicks make it feel more mellow or more steep? I’d assume the latter
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Steeper, because it shortens the tail even more by pushing the wheels out more.
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yup. this is why i have trouble with tricks of a FA/Hockey nose.  Gonna do the parked car fix on it this weekend, hopefuly it will mellow.
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Pardon my douchery, but why don’t you just skate mellower decks?
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Good question, not douchery.

I've been alternating between a quasi 8.5 and a 917 8.38 lately, both mellower than FAs. Its just I hav a couple hockey's that I love the graphics that I wanna flatten a bit.
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Because I can't find boards with a deep concave but mellow kicks, open to suggestion is anyone has them.

Usually woodshops do
Steep concave + steep kicks
Mellow concave + mellow kicks
Mellow concave + Steep kicks (DSM)

Ah yes, graphics and concave. That makes sense. Now that you mention it, I cannot think of any steep concave mellow kick combo.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on September 28, 2021, 06:42:14 AM
I DM'd Venture and there is not a 5.6 low truck coming.  Frank just had it wrong.  So bummed.  I want a 5.6 low so bad.

I also DM’d them recently and Tim’s will be back in stock within the next month.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 28, 2021, 07:33:18 AM
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fall 21 drop 1
andrew wilson and gilbert crockett pro trucks

https://venturetrucks.net/
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Polished V-Titanium in all sizes.

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I ain't dealing with another drought of titanium trucks.
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are the ti’s that much better than the regular casts ?

They have forged plates so yes they are better but no they aren't.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on September 28, 2021, 04:55:30 PM
I DM'd Venture and there is not a 5.6 low truck coming.  Frank just had it wrong.  So bummed.  I want a 5.6 low so bad.

Damn I’m bummed. Thanks for confirming!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 28, 2021, 06:19:58 PM
Fuck it I'm sizing down to a 8.0 for the Venture 5.2 Lo, this itch must be scratched!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 28, 2021, 06:54:22 PM
Fuck it I'm sizing down to a 8.0 for the Venture 5.2 Lo, this itch must be scratched!

Get out those old Spitfire Radial Slims, as you gonna need small wheels...

That would be a fun ride though!

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: augustmoon on September 28, 2021, 08:09:49 PM
Riding my first pair of Ventures since Kurt Cobain was still alive, and I’m liking them a lot.  I’ve stayed away from them because they seemed too low/small, but the highs are actually really beefy and feel really solid.  Pleasantly surprised. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 28, 2021, 08:20:34 PM
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Fuck it I'm sizing down to a 8.0 for the Venture 5.2 Lo, this itch must be scratched!
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Get out those old Spitfire Radial Slims, as you gonna need small wheels...

That would be a fun ride though!

I gave those away, I can't do 50mm wheels. Maybe I'll finally start riding my colored F4 wheels
shudders
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: s0lkatt on September 29, 2021, 06:24:42 AM
What aftermarket bushings are you guys using? My stock ones cracked on my 5.8s and I got doh-dohs, but they fell apart almost instantly. Love the stock bushings shame they had to die.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cosmicgypsies on September 29, 2021, 08:28:11 AM
What aftermarket bushings are you guys using? My stock ones cracked on my 5.8s and I got doh-dohs, but they fell apart almost instantly. Love the stock bushings shame they had to die.

i am once again shilling the deluxe supercush bushings preferably with the flat washer on top

from what ive ascertained on here they're generally the best aftermarket bushings for ventures, i went for the orange 90a's.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thebacker on September 29, 2021, 12:20:14 PM
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What aftermarket bushings are you guys using? My stock ones cracked on my 5.8s and I got doh-dohs, but they fell apart almost instantly. Love the stock bushings shame they had to die.
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i am once again shilling the deluxe supercush bushings preferably with the flat washer on top

from what ive ascertained on here they're generally the best aftermarket bushings for ventures, i went for the orange 90a's.
the orange bushings feel yummy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 29, 2021, 07:01:57 PM
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I can get 5.2 low v-lights pretty handy but I really wanna get the hollows. Will cost me a fortune in shipping.

Is the weight difference that noticable?
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I’ve skated the 5.6 vhollows and 5.6 vlights. There is no noticeable difference between the two trucks.

The weight difference only become noticeable when going 2 models up or down (from Titanium to Light / Standard), 1 model difference doesn't feel like it's worth the effort to swap wheels out unless you're setting up a fresh board and want to deal with the hassle.

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i am once again shilling the deluxe supercush bushings preferably with the flat washer on top

from what ive ascertained on here they're generally the best aftermarket bushings for ventures, i went for the orange 90a's.
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the orange bushings feel yummy

I'm on Bones Medium - they definitely help the turn but something about the original purple / red ones that, while imperfect, have the right amount of suck. They make Ventures feel like Ventures, with the limited turn, I'm partially convinced they make for a better pinch too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LewFarrell on September 29, 2021, 08:52:37 PM
What aftermarket bushings are you guys using? My stock ones cracked on my 5.8s and I got doh-dohs, but they fell apart almost instantly. Love the stock bushings shame they had to die.

Riding Thunder hard black 100a with my 5.2 lows. I sanded down the bottom bushing from 14mm to 13mm. I like the somewhat conical shape.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on September 30, 2021, 05:12:15 AM
Hard to find the 5.6 ti’s I’ll probably just end up getting the vhollows. Probably going to switch baseplates just because I like the cast for the decks I’ve been riding.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 30, 2021, 05:33:55 AM
Hard to find the 5.6 ti’s I’ll probably just end up getting the vhollows. Probably going to switch baseplates just because I like the cast for the decks I’ve been riding.
are you in need for a pair of hollows? i have a set im no longer going to use since sizing up to 5.8s. pm me if youre interested

excuse the shameless plug
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on September 30, 2021, 09:02:55 AM
I see over and over a lot of people say Venture's "delayed" turn, etc. but if you're willing to just mess with them a little bit I promise you it will unlock the turning. Putting some 1/8" risers underneath is the biggest step. Shave some little paraffin wax slices and put them into the stock pivot cups, it will make them perform just like Riptides and save you $. Remove the top washer, don't even use a flat Bones washer. Use a softer bottom bushing and then a harder top for a snappier turn. I've been doing just this, while I do also use those Array sleeved washers for the bottom bushings, paired with boards that have a 14.25wb (haven't gone shorter yet) and the turning is seriously just as satisfying as Ace for me, no bs.

Another thing I feel that gets overlooked with Venture is not only does the kingpin sit super low, resolving the issue of having to mess around with inverted pins, but the yoke is tucked behind the baseplate so hangups are pretty much non-existent. I see no other truck on the market with this design. I think Ventures are seriously underrated, they are such a damn good truck and can do anything. Kook rant over, cheers grinders.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on September 30, 2021, 10:26:58 AM
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Hard to find the 5.6 ti’s I’ll probably just end up getting the vhollows. Probably going to switch baseplates just because I like the cast for the decks I’ve been riding.
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are you in need for a pair of hollows? i have a set im no longer going to use since sizing up to 5.8s. pm me if youre interested

excuse the shameless plug
Might hold out a little longer for the TI. I’ll keep it in mind and appreciate the response. Thanks dude

How did you like them?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 30, 2021, 11:20:35 AM
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Hard to find the 5.6 ti’s I’ll probably just end up getting the vhollows. Probably going to switch baseplates just because I like the cast for the decks I’ve been riding.
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are you in need for a pair of hollows? i have a set im no longer going to use since sizing up to 5.8s. pm me if youre interested

excuse the shameless plug
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Might hold out a little longer for the TI. I’ll keep it in mind and appreciate the response. Thanks dude

How did you like them?
second favorite truck ive tried behind 5.8s, 8.5 axles are more versatile imo.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DeepSpace9mm on September 30, 2021, 12:17:33 PM
I see over and over a lot of people say Venture's "delayed" turn, etc. but if you're willing to just mess with them a little bit I promise you it will unlock the turning. Putting some 1/8" risers underneath is the biggest step. Shave some little paraffin wax slices and put them into the stock pivot cups, it will make them perform just like Riptides and save you $. Remove the top washer, don't even use a flat Bones washer. Use a softer bottom bushing and then a harder top for a snappier turn. I've been doing just this, while I do also use those Array sleeved washers for the bottom bushings, paired with boards that have a 14.25wb (haven't gone shorter yet) and the turning is seriously just as satisfying as Ace for me, no bs.

Another thing I feel that gets overlooked with Venture is not only does the kingpin sit super low, resolving the issue of having to mess around with inverted pins, but the yoke is tucked behind the baseplate so hangups are pretty much non-existent. I see no other truck on the market with this design. I think Ventures are seriously underrated, they are such a damn good truck and can do anything. Kook rant over, cheers grinders.

Thanks for this post. I’m going to have to give this a try. I’ve got some Ace low bushings, Array sleeved washers and 1/8th risers laying around.

Maybe I’ll put them on this Hockey deck that I wasn’t enjoying with Aces before.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 30, 2021, 11:22:32 PM
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Promade 8.0 - Steep kicks and concave, the nose is just a hair longer than the tail, so its almost twin tail in length, steepness goes well with Venture Forged, 8 x 31.8 x 14.25
Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo - Has an itch that needed to be scratched, more about that below, I usually do 3 washers on the inside but I may need to go back to 2
Autobahn 52mm Street Slims - Didn't feel like cracking open new F4s and had these lying around, Autobahn is definitely underrated
Assorted Bearings
Assorted Hardware - Couldn't find s set of matching hardware in 7/8" (2 red, 1 yellow, 1 green, 1 silver, 3 black), so I stuck the 2 reds at the nose and used a paint marker on the rest
Jessup griptape

First time riding an 8.0 in over a year, sized down because I wanted to get the legendary Venture Lo pinch back. Width was the easier to get used to, dimensions were tougher, usually avoid WB longer than 14.125. Sizing down did make the pop much easier but my timing was off for 1/2 the session, definitely felt less confident on rail tricks. Flips were also easier, but I had to shorten by drag and flick off faster.

On to the trucks - while the rest of the setup was a nightmare for the first 2 hours, the pinch on Venture was INSANELY GOOD. Coupled with a smaller wheel (I'm not riding 54mm wheels on a 8.0), I felt like I could hold my Crooked grinds much longer and exit much more confidently, Slight Nollie out beats flopping off the end. Also felt confident enough to do some BS Smiths on the ledge, something very hit and miss for me.

Setting up the board had a sense of foreshadowing - if the setup process ain't feeling right (with the hardware), prospects aren't looking good for the setup. But once I stopped whining it and got adjusted it was fine. Not sure if the juice was worth the squeeze - all that adjustment just to ride Ventures.

1 3-hour session isn't enough to pass judgement, so we'll see how the weekend goes.

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Yes the pinch on the 5.2 Lo excellent was unbelievably good, still not sure if all that adjustment to ride them was worth the effort. Need a few more sessions to make a decision.

Also, I take back what I said about the stock bushing being the best. The turn was adequate but I could never get the tightness just right. Either too loose and I was squirming around as I pushed with my board, or to tight then I felt like I wasn't turning.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on October 01, 2021, 06:34:47 AM
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Promade 8.0 - Steep kicks and concave, the nose is just a hair longer than the tail, so its almost twin tail in length, steepness goes well with Venture Forged, 8 x 31.8 x 14.25
Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo - Has an itch that needed to be scratched, more about that below, I usually do 3 washers on the inside but I may need to go back to 2
Autobahn 52mm Street Slims - Didn't feel like cracking open new F4s and had these lying around, Autobahn is definitely underrated
Assorted Bearings
Assorted Hardware - Couldn't find s set of matching hardware in 7/8" (2 red, 1 yellow, 1 green, 1 silver, 3 black), so I stuck the 2 reds at the nose and used a paint marker on the rest
Jessup griptape

First time riding an 8.0 in over a year, sized down because I wanted to get the legendary Venture Lo pinch back. Width was the easier to get used to, dimensions were tougher, usually avoid WB longer than 14.125. Sizing down did make the pop much easier but my timing was off for 1/2 the session, definitely felt less confident on rail tricks. Flips were also easier, but I had to shorten by drag and flick off faster.

On to the trucks - while the rest of the setup was a nightmare for the first 2 hours, the pinch on Venture was INSANELY GOOD. Coupled with a smaller wheel (I'm not riding 54mm wheels on a 8.0), I felt like I could hold my Crooked grinds much longer and exit much more confidently, Slight Nollie out beats flopping off the end. Also felt confident enough to do some BS Smiths on the ledge, something very hit and miss for me.

Setting up the board had a sense of foreshadowing - if the setup process ain't feeling right (with the hardware), prospects aren't looking good for the setup. But once I stopped whining it and got adjusted it was fine. Not sure if the juice was worth the squeeze - all that adjustment just to ride Ventures.

1 3-hour session isn't enough to pass judgement, so we'll see how the weekend goes.
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Yes the pinch on the 5.2 Lo excellent was unbelievably good, still not sure if all that adjustment to ride them was worth the effort. Need a few more sessions to make a decision.

Also, I take back what I said about the stock bushing being the best. The turn was adequate but I could never get the tightness just right. Either too loose and I was squirming around as I pushed with my board, or to tight then I felt like I wasn't turning.
Nice setup man! I eventually got done with the Los because of the same problem finding my preferred tightness. Back in the day when I was lighter it wasn't a problem. I went to hi's and can run them nut flush pretty happily.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 01, 2021, 07:28:36 AM
Venture turn just fine. It’s not hard to learn, lean a bit harder near the end. The Lo are another story, but otherwise it’s not that hard to get used to considering all the other micro adjustments we have to do to do tricks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 01, 2021, 07:50:03 AM
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i am once again shilling the deluxe supercush bushings preferably with the flat washer on top

from what ive ascertained on here they're generally the best aftermarket bushings for ventures, i went for the orange 90a's.

I agree. The weight reduction of hollow is balanced by the longer
wb.

Carrying the board is a different story tho. The hollow hangers is very much lighter and in combination with cast plates they feel lighter to me

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What aftermarket bushings are you guys using? My stock ones cracked on my 5.8s and I got doh-dohs, but they fell apart almost instantly. Love the stock bushings shame they had to die.
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Riding Thunder hard black 100a with my 5.2 lows. I sanded down the bottom bushing from 14mm to 13mm. I like the somewhat conical shape.

I'm pretty sure orchard has some bait and tackle

Not &#128175; on that.

In a few weeks I'll be on the white Indy bushings because they take a few hrs more to freeze than the purps do.

I should just try the new ace bushing size.

Ace hands down has the best out the box stock bushings
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on October 01, 2021, 08:09:48 AM
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i am once again shilling the deluxe supercush bushings preferably with the flat washer on top

from what ive ascertained on here they're generally the best aftermarket bushings for ventures, i went for the orange 90a's.
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I agree. The weight reduction of hollow is balanced by the longer
wb.

Carrying the board is a different story tho. The hollow hangers is very much lighter and in combination with cast plates they feel lighter to me

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What aftermarket bushings are you guys using? My stock ones cracked on my 5.8s and I got doh-dohs, but they fell apart almost instantly. Love the stock bushings shame they had to die.
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Riding Thunder hard black 100a with my 5.2 lows. I sanded down the bottom bushing from 14mm to 13mm. I like the somewhat conical shape.
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I'm pretty sure orchard has some bait and tackle

Not &#38;#128175; on that.

In a few weeks I'll be on the white Indy bushings because they take a few hrs more to freeze than the purps do.

I should just try the new ace bushing size.

Ace hands down has the best out the box stock bushings
Great idea @Uncle Flea Im going to try my spare ace bushings in my Ventures today. Its already in the high 30s low 40s in the morning where I live so it's time to do something. I will report back if you like.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 02, 2021, 11:11:30 PM
Venture turn just fine. It’s not hard to learn, lean a bit harder near the end. The Lo are another story, but otherwise it’s not that hard to get used to considering all the other micro adjustments we have to do to do tricks.

Skated 3 day with weekends with Venture 5.2 Lo (by proxy sizing down from 8.25 to 8.0 and 54 to 51mm wheels) and here's my field report:

Day 1:
Horrible time adjusting to the width and took some bad slams. The pinch on Crooked grinds was excellent but I wasn't sure if it was worth losing the stability of 8.25 decks. Flip tricks were more ass than usual.

Day 2:
The DIY spot was wet and even after mopping up the place the ground was very damp, 51mm skinny wheels are ass on moist ground. Pinch on grinds got progressively better, on Crooked grinds I was grinding further and exiting with much more control, could really feel myself sitting onto the truck and grinding. Slides felt way more sketchy because of the smaller deck especially for tricks that benefit from being firmly planted on the ledge. Staples like my FS Noseslide took forever. Flat ground still ass.

Day 3:
Rough day, couldn't get out of the warm up. Couldn't find the pinch on my grinds from the day before. Nothing of note grind and slides wise but sizing down definitely improved my kickflips.

Overall the experiment was fun but painful. Riding the 5.2 Lo was fun but not at the expense sizing down and feeling less comfortable on my other tricks. Maybe an 8.125?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 03, 2021, 07:35:14 AM
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Venture turn just fine. It’s not hard to learn, lean a bit harder near the end. The Lo are another story, but otherwise it’s not that hard to get used to considering all the other micro adjustments we have to do to do tricks.
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Skated 3 day with weekends with Venture 5.2 Lo (by proxy sizing down from 8.25 to 8.0 and 54 to 51mm wheels) and here's my field report:

Day 1:
Horrible time adjusting to the width and took some bad slams. The pinch on Crooked grinds was excellent but I wasn't sure if it was worth losing the stability of 8.25 decks. Flip tricks were more ass than usual.

Day 2:
The DIY spot was wet and even after mopping up the place the ground was very damp, 51mm skinny wheels are ass on moist ground. Pinch on grinds got progressively better, on Crooked grinds I was grinding further and exiting with much more control, could really feel myself sitting onto the truck and grinding. Slides felt way more sketchy because of the smaller deck especially for tricks that benefit from being firmly planted on the ledge. Staples like my FS Noseslide took forever. Flat ground still ass.

Day 3:
Rough day, couldn't get out of the warm up. Couldn't find the pinch on my grinds from the day before. Nothing of note grind and slides wise but sizing down definitely improved my kickflips.

Overall the experiment was fun but painful. Riding the 5.2 Lo was fun but not at the expense sizing down and feeling less comfortable on my other tricks. Maybe an 8.125?

I am feeling your pain, but I know I still have some old smaller well used complete boards I just cannot part with, tucked away.  Might never ride them again, but they are always there if I feel like trying one again.

The best thing is from skating one of those (8.125) for a session as I did last month, I feel justified in going back to my regular ride now (8.38) and feeling like it works better for my happy (lazy) skating nowdays.

If you never try it again, you will always wish you did though...

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 03, 2021, 06:55:40 PM
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Venture turn just fine. It’s not hard to learn, lean a bit harder near the end. The Lo are another story, but otherwise it’s not that hard to get used to considering all the other micro adjustments we have to do to do tricks.
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Skated 3 day with weekends with Venture 5.2 Lo (by proxy sizing down from 8.25 to 8.0 and 54 to 51mm wheels) and here's my field report:

Day 1:
Horrible time adjusting to the width and took some bad slams. The pinch on Crooked grinds was excellent but I wasn't sure if it was worth losing the stability of 8.25 decks. Flip tricks were more ass than usual.

Day 2:
The DIY spot was wet and even after mopping up the place the ground was very damp, 51mm skinny wheels are ass on moist ground. Pinch on grinds got progressively better, on Crooked grinds I was grinding further and exiting with much more control, could really feel myself sitting onto the truck and grinding. Slides felt way more sketchy because of the smaller deck especially for tricks that benefit from being firmly planted on the ledge. Staples like my FS Noseslide took forever. Flat ground still ass.

Day 3:
Rough day, couldn't get out of the warm up. Couldn't find the pinch on my grinds from the day before. Nothing of note grind and slides wise but sizing down definitely improved my kickflips.

Overall the experiment was fun but painful. Riding the 5.2 Lo was fun but not at the expense sizing down and feeling less comfortable on my other tricks. Maybe an 8.125?
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I am feeling your pain, but I know I still have some old smaller well used complete boards I just cannot part with, tucked away.  Might never ride them again, but they are always there if I feel like trying one again.

The best thing is from skating one of those (8.125) for a session as I did last month, I feel justified in going back to my regular ride now (8.38) and feeling like it works better for my happy (lazy) skating nowdays.

If you never try it again, you will always wish you did though...



First time I made a drastic change to my setup in close to a year. I was alternating between 8 - 8.5, wheelbases and trucks. A change up is fun once in a while, not not every setup.

Didn't think I would be able to ride 8 x 31.75 x 14.25 but it's acceptable with Ventures. Baker dimensions (8 x 31.5 x 14.25) are still the worst for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 03, 2021, 09:00:54 PM
Going from nice old ventures to brand new ones is dangerous. I crashed into the plate glass window at the 76 stairs (curbs). That shit has never broke After decades of getting smashed by skaters bladders and drunks. it would be poetic justice for me to lose my arms there and bleed to death.


Weed.

(https://i.ibb.co/wWJKWQK/PXL-20211004-001130136.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r6bZ6pZ)
2016 hyundai genesis 3.8 r spec 0 60 (https://statewideinventory.org/hyundai-0-60-times)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MaXX_I-D on October 04, 2021, 07:20:31 AM
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Venture turn just fine. It’s not hard to learn, lean a bit harder near the end. The Lo are another story, but otherwise it’s not that hard to get used to considering all the other micro adjustments we have to do to do tricks.
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Skated 3 day with weekends with Venture 5.2 Lo (by proxy sizing down from 8.25 to 8.0 and 54 to 51mm wheels) and here's my field report:

Day 1:
Horrible time adjusting to the width and took some bad slams. The pinch on Crooked grinds was excellent but I wasn't sure if it was worth losing the stability of 8.25 decks. Flip tricks were more ass than usual.

Day 2:
The DIY spot was wet and even after mopping up the place the ground was very damp, 51mm skinny wheels are ass on moist ground. Pinch on grinds got progressively better, on Crooked grinds I was grinding further and exiting with much more control, could really feel myself sitting onto the truck and grinding. Slides felt way more sketchy because of the smaller deck especially for tricks that benefit from being firmly planted on the ledge. Staples like my FS Noseslide took forever. Flat ground still ass.

Day 3:
Rough day, couldn't get out of the warm up. Couldn't find the pinch on my grinds from the day before. Nothing of note grind and slides wise but sizing down definitely improved my kickflips.

Overall the experiment was fun but painful. Riding the 5.2 Lo was fun but not at the expense sizing down and feeling less comfortable on my other tricks. Maybe an 8.125?
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I am feeling your pain, but I know I still have some old smaller well used complete boards I just cannot part with, tucked away.  Might never ride them again, but they are always there if I feel like trying one again.

The best thing is from skating one of those (8.125) for a session as I did last month, I feel justified in going back to my regular ride now (8.38) and feeling like it works better for my happy (lazy) skating nowdays.

If you never try it again, you will always wish you did though...


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Didn't think I would be able to ride 8 x 31.75 x 14.25 but it's acceptable with Ventures. Baker dimensions (8 x 31.5 x 14.25) are still the worst for me.
I had to switch from baker to dlx boards when I switched trucks. Those weird ass wheelbase sizes are the shit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on October 04, 2021, 10:26:06 AM
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Venture turn just fine. It’s not hard to learn, lean a bit harder near the end. The Lo are another story, but otherwise it’s not that hard to get used to considering all the other micro adjustments we have to do to do tricks.
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Skated 3 day with weekends with Venture 5.2 Lo (by proxy sizing down from 8.25 to 8.0 and 54 to 51mm wheels) and here's my field report:

Day 1:
Horrible time adjusting to the width and took some bad slams. The pinch on Crooked grinds was excellent but I wasn't sure if it was worth losing the stability of 8.25 decks. Flip tricks were more ass than usual.

Day 2:
The DIY spot was wet and even after mopping up the place the ground was very damp, 51mm skinny wheels are ass on moist ground. Pinch on grinds got progressively better, on Crooked grinds I was grinding further and exiting with much more control, could really feel myself sitting onto the truck and grinding. Slides felt way more sketchy because of the smaller deck especially for tricks that benefit from being firmly planted on the ledge. Staples like my FS Noseslide took forever. Flat ground still ass.

Day 3:
Rough day, couldn't get out of the warm up. Couldn't find the pinch on my grinds from the day before. Nothing of note grind and slides wise but sizing down definitely improved my kickflips.

Overall the experiment was fun but painful. Riding the 5.2 Lo was fun but not at the expense sizing down and feeling less comfortable on my other tricks. Maybe an 8.125?
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I am feeling your pain, but I know I still have some old smaller well used complete boards I just cannot part with, tucked away.  Might never ride them again, but they are always there if I feel like trying one again.

The best thing is from skating one of those (8.125) for a session as I did last month, I feel justified in going back to my regular ride now (8.38) and feeling like it works better for my happy (lazy) skating nowdays.

If you never try it again, you will always wish you did though...


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First time I made a drastic change to my setup in close to a year. I was alternating between 8 - 8.5, wheelbases and trucks. A change up is fun once in a while, not not every setup.

Didn't think I would be able to ride 8 x 31.75 x 14.25 but it's acceptable with Ventures. Baker dimensions (8 x 31.5 x 14.25) are still the worst for me.
When I was experimenting with smaller boards I tried an 8 x 31.5 x 14.25 baker with 5.2 highs and couldn’t do it. The pop just felt too hefty n weird for me.
Coincidentally, the baker 8.47 x 31.875 x 14.25 on 5.8s is my favorite combo ever, and what I’ve been rocking for a while now. The combo just makes the pop feel so good, the tail doesn’t feel too light but doesn’t feel too heavy either.
I remember trying 5.2 lows for a little bit as well but just couldn’t get used to them. Was just too used to the highs. My timing just felt off. I switched back to the highs after just a few sessions.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on October 05, 2021, 10:44:36 AM
I'm eagerly waiting for these titanium 5.8's to drop anywhere.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on October 05, 2021, 10:52:45 AM
what is the best for 8.5" deck for Venture. is it a 6.0" ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mattdlx on October 05, 2021, 11:59:11 AM
what is the best for 8.5" deck for Venture. is it a 6.0" ?

5.8s have an 8.5” axle
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Peepeeboy69 on October 05, 2021, 05:33:40 PM
i got a pair of 5.0his and i can barely get the dang thing to turn

I think i have them as loose as I can without the nut being able to wiggle off and still i can barely turn before the board just tips over
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on October 05, 2021, 05:36:24 PM
I put my 6.1 hollows on my new 9" Polar with a 14.5 wb. This is uncharted territory for me. Anyone ever try this craziness?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 05, 2021, 05:43:14 PM
i got a pair of 5.0his and i can barely get the dang thing to turn

I think i have them as loose as I can without the nut being able to wiggle off and still i can barely turn before the board just tips over

few things to try in no particular order:
hth
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bunk Moreland on October 06, 2021, 07:27:22 AM
I put my 6.1 hollows on my new 9" Polar with a 14.5 wb. This is uncharted territory for me. Anyone ever try this craziness?
I’m skating 6.1s on a shaped polar, I don’t know what the wb is though, but it seems fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 06, 2021, 09:21:51 AM
6.1 cast = +3.125
6.1 forged = +3.25

polars are always too mellow for my liking so maybe forged plates would help?

anytime ive tried ventures past 14.25 wb, pop feel was way too heavy. 14.38 with cast plate 6.1s probably wouldnt be awful off the math alone
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on October 06, 2021, 10:16:02 AM
6.1 cast = +3.125
6.1 forged = +3.25

polars are always too mellow for my liking so maybe forged plates would help?

anytime ive tried ventures past 14.25 wb, pop feel was way too heavy. 14.38 with cast plate 6.1s probably wouldnt be awful off the math alone
Thanks man, I dont think it will go well, but I will give it a shot. My only other big trucks are classic 66s so I'm hoping something clicks. My legs are tired  :)
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Post by: notinternetfamous on October 06, 2021, 11:07:25 AM
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Venture turn just fine. It’s not hard to learn, lean a bit harder near the end. The Lo are another story, but otherwise it’s not that hard to get used to considering all the other micro adjustments we have to do to do tricks.
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Skated 3 day with weekends with Venture 5.2 Lo (by proxy sizing down from 8.25 to 8.0 and 54 to 51mm wheels) and here's my field report:

Day 1:
Horrible time adjusting to the width and took some bad slams. The pinch on Crooked grinds was excellent but I wasn't sure if it was worth losing the stability of 8.25 decks. Flip tricks were more ass than usual.

Day 2:
The DIY spot was wet and even after mopping up the place the ground was very damp, 51mm skinny wheels are ass on moist ground. Pinch on grinds got progressively better, on Crooked grinds I was grinding further and exiting with much more control, could really feel myself sitting onto the truck and grinding. Slides felt way more sketchy because of the smaller deck especially for tricks that benefit from being firmly planted on the ledge. Staples like my FS Noseslide took forever. Flat ground still ass.

Day 3:
Rough day, couldn't get out of the warm up. Couldn't find the pinch on my grinds from the day before. Nothing of note grind and slides wise but sizing down definitely improved my kickflips.

Overall the experiment was fun but painful. Riding the 5.2 Lo was fun but not at the expense sizing down and feeling less comfortable on my other tricks. Maybe an 8.125?
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I am feeling your pain, but I know I still have some old smaller well used complete boards I just cannot part with, tucked away.  Might never ride them again, but they are always there if I feel like trying one again.

The best thing is from skating one of those (8.125) for a session as I did last month, I feel justified in going back to my regular ride now (8.38) and feeling like it works better for my happy (lazy) skating nowdays.

If you never try it again, you will always wish you did though...


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First time I made a drastic change to my setup in close to a year. I was alternating between 8 - 8.5, wheelbases and trucks. A change up is fun once in a while, not not every setup.

Didn't think I would be able to ride 8 x 31.75 x 14.25 but it's acceptable with Ventures. Baker dimensions (8 x 31.5 x 14.25) are still the worst for me.
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When I was experimenting with smaller boards I tried an 8 x 31.5 x 14.25 baker with 5.2 highs and couldn’t do it. The pop just felt too hefty n weird for me.
Coincidentally, the baker 8.47 x 31.875 x 14.25 on 5.8s is my favorite combo ever, and what I’ve been rocking for a while now. The combo just makes the pop feel so good, the tail doesn’t feel too light but doesn’t feel too heavy either.
I remember trying 5.2 lows for a little bit as well but just couldn’t get used to them. Was just too used to the highs. My timing just felt off. I switched back to the highs after just a few sessions.

I don't find the Baker dimensions (8 x 31.5 x 14.25) with cast Venture highs to be bad at all. I've seen two instances where this was mentioned. I feel like as long as there's good amount of fingers of flat, mellow kicks, and the WB is 14.25" or smaller, that it should work. From most Bakers I've seen, this is generally the case. I think it would be nice if the tail was slightly longer, but overall, the only difference I've felt on this setup is the WB (I typically prefer 14"). I don't understand how people run Ventures on FA/Hockey shapes. Nollie ghost pop for days when I tried it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on October 06, 2021, 11:27:21 AM
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I’m skating 6.1s on a shaped polar, I don’t know what the wb is though, but it seems fine.
I think most of their shaped decks are in the 14.5 range (maybe not), so you never know maybe it will feel fine for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 06, 2021, 06:15:37 PM
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Venture turn just fine. It’s not hard to learn, lean a bit harder near the end. The Lo are another story, but otherwise it’s not that hard to get used to considering all the other micro adjustments we have to do to do tricks.
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Skated 3 day with weekends with Venture 5.2 Lo (by proxy sizing down from 8.25 to 8.0 and 54 to 51mm wheels) and here's my field report:

Day 1:
Horrible time adjusting to the width and took some bad slams. The pinch on Crooked grinds was excellent but I wasn't sure if it was worth losing the stability of 8.25 decks. Flip tricks were more ass than usual.

Day 2:
The DIY spot was wet and even after mopping up the place the ground was very damp, 51mm skinny wheels are ass on moist ground. Pinch on grinds got progressively better, on Crooked grinds I was grinding further and exiting with much more control, could really feel myself sitting onto the truck and grinding. Slides felt way more sketchy because of the smaller deck especially for tricks that benefit from being firmly planted on the ledge. Staples like my FS Noseslide took forever. Flat ground still ass.

Day 3:
Rough day, couldn't get out of the warm up. Couldn't find the pinch on my grinds from the day before. Nothing of note grind and slides wise but sizing down definitely improved my kickflips.

Overall the experiment was fun but painful. Riding the 5.2 Lo was fun but not at the expense sizing down and feeling less comfortable on my other tricks. Maybe an 8.125?
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I am feeling your pain, but I know I still have some old smaller well used complete boards I just cannot part with, tucked away.  Might never ride them again, but they are always there if I feel like trying one again.

The best thing is from skating one of those (8.125) for a session as I did last month, I feel justified in going back to my regular ride now (8.38) and feeling like it works better for my happy (lazy) skating nowdays.

If you never try it again, you will always wish you did though...


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First time I made a drastic change to my setup in close to a year. I was alternating between 8 - 8.5, wheelbases and trucks. A change up is fun once in a while, not not every setup.

Didn't think I would be able to ride 8 x 31.75 x 14.25 but it's acceptable with Ventures. Baker dimensions (8 x 31.5 x 14.25) are still the worst for me.
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When I was experimenting with smaller boards I tried an 8 x 31.5 x 14.25 baker with 5.2 highs and couldn’t do it. The pop just felt too hefty n weird for me.
Coincidentally, the baker 8.47 x 31.875 x 14.25 on 5.8s is my favorite combo ever, and what I’ve been rocking for a while now. The combo just makes the pop feel so good, the tail doesn’t feel too light but doesn’t feel too heavy either.
I remember trying 5.2 lows for a little bit as well but just couldn’t get used to them. Was just too used to the highs. My timing just felt off. I switched back to the highs after just a few sessions.
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I don't find the Baker dimensions (8 x 31.5 x 14.25) with cast Venture highs to be bad at all. I've seen two instances where this was mentioned. I feel like as long as there's good amount of fingers of flat, mellow kicks, and the WB is 14.25" or smaller, that it should work. From most Bakers I've seen, this is generally the case. I think it would be nice if the tail was slightly longer, but overall, the only difference I've felt on this setup is the WB (I typically prefer 14"). I don't understand how people run Ventures on FA/Hockey shapes. Nollie ghost pop for days when I tried it

Entirely possible, and I just hate Baker shapes in general. Couldn't get into them when they were under Blitz (too mellow) and can't get into them now because of the length / WB. Maybe the B2 shapes are worth a shake.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 07, 2021, 07:34:41 AM
liking this bushing combo with my 5.8s
cracked stock purple tops with broken in indy 78a bottoms
bones top washers + flat bottom washers (hardware store)
nuts slightly looser than flush and riptides

all thats left to try now is the 88a supercush
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on October 09, 2021, 05:42:20 AM
Had a regretful purchase of some 5.6’s last night. Got home and realized I actually like the width of my 5.8’s and how ground down they are already. Btw, anyone curious about running Ace bushings in their Venture’s, the bottom and top bushings are too tall, and the top one sits funky it’s like too wide, sticking with my supercush’s they’re perfect. Also, all new Venture standards come with black axle and kingpin nuts along with the bushing washers now (yuck). But that’s a good way to know you have the latest batch of alum.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on October 09, 2021, 06:02:20 AM
Had a regretful purchase of some 5.6’s last night. Got home and realized I actually like the width of my 5.8’s and how ground down they are already. Btw, anyone curious about running Ace bushings in their Venture’s, the bottom and top bushings are too tall, and the top one sits funky it’s like too wide, sticking with my supercush’s they’re perfect. Also, all new Venture standards come with black axle and kingpin nuts along with the bushing washers now (yuck). But that’s a good way to know you have the latest batch of alum.
Just like Thunder standards.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 09, 2021, 08:13:20 AM
if you skate venture, have a blessed day
thats all
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on October 09, 2021, 11:27:32 AM
Had a regretful purchase of some 5.6’s last night. Got home and realized I actually like the width of my 5.8’s and how ground down they are already. Btw, anyone curious about running Ace bushings in their Venture’s, the bottom and top bushings are too tall, and the top one sits funky it’s like too wide, sticking with my supercush’s they’re perfect. Also, all new Venture standards come with black axle and kingpin nuts along with the bushing washers now (yuck). But that’s a good way to know you have the latest batch of alum.


If you get the ace low bushings they work really well. Been skating 5.6 v hollows with them and using flat too washer and the feel is perfect
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 09, 2021, 04:35:41 PM
if you skate venture, have a blessed day
thats all
TOTTM

The
Only
Truck
That
Matters
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 09, 2021, 05:30:07 PM
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Had a regretful purchase of some 5.6’s last night. Got home and realized I actually like the width of my 5.8’s and how ground down they are already. Btw, anyone curious about running Ace bushings in their Venture’s, the bottom and top bushings are too tall, and the top one sits funky it’s like too wide, sticking with my supercush’s they’re perfect. Also, all new Venture standards come with black axle and kingpin nuts along with the bushing washers now (yuck). But that’s a good way to know you have the latest batch of alum.
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Just like Thunder standards.


The number of people who swapped out the full gold set of nuts and washers from Ventures was astounding, from back when everything was gold.

I still have way too many spares of those floating around.


(https://www.kingpinstore.com/assets/alt_1/N408.jpg)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 09, 2021, 06:22:37 PM
Just eyeballing my trucks gives me joy. It's like looking at a mag or whatever. Get lost in the details are time passes slower.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on October 10, 2021, 05:49:08 AM
Just eyeballing my trucks gives me joy. It's like looking at a mag or whatever. Get lost in the details are time passes slower.
I do the same thing. I like looking at my setup and observing all the details. The grooves of my trucks. The scrapes on my deck. It's an obsession but I love it lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on October 10, 2021, 06:38:59 AM
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Just eyeballing my trucks gives me joy. It's like looking at a mag or whatever. Get lost in the details are time passes slower.
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I do the same thing. I like looking at my setup and observing all the details. The grooves of my trucks. The scrapes on my deck. It's an obsession but I love it lol.

it's sorta like a therapy..same feeling when setting up a christmas complete or gripping a new board.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on October 10, 2021, 07:38:31 AM
SoCal has titaniums ya’ll
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on October 10, 2021, 08:08:17 AM
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Just eyeballing my trucks gives me joy. It's like looking at a mag or whatever. Get lost in the details are time passes slower.
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I do the same thing. I like looking at my setup and observing all the details. The grooves of my trucks. The scrapes on my deck. It's an obsession but I love it lol.
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it's sorta like a therapy..same feeling when setting up a christmas complete or gripping a new board.
I dread looking at a Christmas complete. Everything still looking way too new and untouched, just knowing that I still have to break in the new trucks/bushings and the struggles that are gonna come with it..... it’s enough to get me in a brief panic if I sit and think about it for too long hah. I can definitely agree with the gripping a new board thing tho or just sitting and staring at a nice beat up pair of trucks on your setup; it’s such a joyful feeling.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on October 10, 2021, 11:08:14 AM
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Just eyeballing my trucks gives me joy. It's like looking at a mag or whatever. Get lost in the details are time passes slower.
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I do the same thing. I like looking at my setup and observing all the details. The grooves of my trucks. The scrapes on my deck. It's an obsession but I love it lol.
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it's sorta like a therapy..same feeling when setting up a christmas complete or gripping a new board.
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I dread looking at a Christmas complete. Everything still looking way too new and untouched, just knowing that I still have to break in the new trucks/bushings and the struggles that are gonna come with it..... it’s enough to get me in a brief panic if I sit and think about it for too long hah. I can definitely agree with the gripping a new board thing tho or just sitting and staring at a nice beat up pair of trucks on your setup; it’s such a joyful feeling.
Yes I agree. Christmas complete is anxiety. Broken in setup is therapy. My wife thinks I'm weird and obsessed lol. I am and I'm proud of it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 10, 2021, 04:33:29 PM
When I have too much new I plan how I skate ie. Spots I know, tricks I can do......makes things a lot easier...
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Post by: camel filters on October 10, 2021, 05:56:10 PM
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Just eyeballing my trucks gives me joy. It's like looking at a mag or whatever. Get lost in the details are time passes slower.
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I do the same thing. I like looking at my setup and observing all the details. The grooves of my trucks. The scrapes on my deck. It's an obsession but I love it lol.
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it's sorta like a therapy..same feeling when setting up a christmas complete or gripping a new board.
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I dread looking at a Christmas complete. Everything still looking way too new and untouched, just knowing that I still have to break in the new trucks/bushings and the struggles that are gonna come with it..... it’s enough to get me in a brief panic if I sit and think about it for too long hah. I can definitely agree with the gripping a new board thing tho or just sitting and staring at a nice beat up pair of trucks on your setup; it’s such a joyful feeling.
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Yes I agree. Christmas complete is anxiety. Broken in setup is therapy. My wife thinks I'm weird and obsessed lol. I am and I'm proud of it.
Brand new everything except some old ass trucks is my happy place.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on October 10, 2021, 06:15:39 PM
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Just eyeballing my trucks gives me joy. It's like looking at a mag or whatever. Get lost in the details are time passes slower.
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I do the same thing. I like looking at my setup and observing all the details. The grooves of my trucks. The scrapes on my deck. It's an obsession but I love it lol.
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it's sorta like a therapy..same feeling when setting up a christmas complete or gripping a new board.
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I dread looking at a Christmas complete. Everything still looking way too new and untouched, just knowing that I still have to break in the new trucks/bushings and the struggles that are gonna come with it..... it’s enough to get me in a brief panic if I sit and think about it for too long hah. I can definitely agree with the gripping a new board thing tho or just sitting and staring at a nice beat up pair of trucks on your setup; it’s such a joyful feeling.
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Yes I agree. Christmas complete is anxiety. Broken in setup is therapy. My wife thinks I'm weird and obsessed lol. I am and I'm proud of it.
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Brand new everything except some old ass trucks is my happy place.
That's the best feeling.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DaSk8D00D on October 10, 2021, 06:57:53 PM
SoCal has titaniums ya’ll

I just ordered some V-Hollow Lights a couple days ago, but saw that they were gonna drop the Ti's shortly after.

Titaniums fucking expensive as shit now(https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/hhh4.png)


Still copped and will now be returning my V-Hollows upon delivery(https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/unimpressed.png)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on October 11, 2021, 07:37:54 AM
Yeah $90, fuck it tho
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DaSk8D00D on October 11, 2021, 01:14:34 PM
Yeah $90, fuck it tho

V-Hollow Lights were $50 from Tactics too (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/francis.png)

I knew like 2 months from now though that I would've wished I went for the Ti's so alas here we are
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on October 12, 2021, 07:02:20 AM
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Had a regretful purchase of some 5.6’s last night. Got home and realized I actually like the width of my 5.8’s and how ground down they are already. Btw, anyone curious about running Ace bushings in their Venture’s, the bottom and top bushings are too tall, and the top one sits funky it’s like too wide, sticking with my supercush’s they’re perfect. Also, all new Venture standards come with black axle and kingpin nuts along with the bushing washers now (yuck). But that’s a good way to know you have the latest batch of alum.
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Just like Thunder standards.
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The number of people who swapped out the full gold set of nuts and washers from Ventures was astounding, from back when everything was gold.

I still have way too many spares of those floating around.


(https://www.kingpinstore.com/assets/alt_1/N408.jpg)

Adversely speaking I noticed a few sets of Thunder 148 standards with plain silver hardware yesterday. Odd move to do black on the Venture when I think most would prefer plain silver on both brands.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on October 13, 2021, 06:34:28 AM
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When I was experimenting with smaller boards I tried an 8 x 31.5 x 14.25 baker with 5.2 highs and couldn’t do it. The pop just felt too hefty n weird for me.
Coincidentally, the baker 8.47 x 31.875 x 14.25 on 5.8s is my favorite combo ever, and what I’ve been rocking for a while now. The combo just makes the pop feel so good, the tail doesn’t feel too light but doesn’t feel too heavy either.
I remember trying 5.2 lows for a little bit as well but just couldn’t get used to them. Was just too used to the highs. My timing just felt off. I switched back to the highs after just a few sessions.
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If I'm not mistaken, this might be Kader's setup...

Think I remember reynolds saying kader skated 8.5 decks and 8.5 ventures, with 1/8" risers, and 60mm f4 classic shape. But he's switched up a lot, could've changed by now.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on October 14, 2021, 06:52:26 AM
Got my titaniums already and held a brand new 5.6 standard in one hand and 5.8 titanium in the other...these things are stupid light. Set them up and can't wait til it stops raining every fucking day here.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on October 14, 2021, 08:32:02 AM
I’m about to become “awake”. Should be getting some V-hollow Lights 5.6 in the mail on the next day or so… I’ve been on Indys for a long time I’m not sure how bad the learning curve will be, but I’m excited to at least try something new. Last set of Ventures I had was over a decade ago…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: HyperBeam on October 14, 2021, 08:34:56 AM
I’m about to become “awake”. Should be getting some V-hollow Lights 5.6 in the mail on the next day or so… I’ve been on Indys for a long time I’m not sure how bad the learning curve will be, but I’m excited to at least try something new. Last set of Ventures I had was over a decade ago…

There's no learning curve. these trucks go in a straight line
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on October 14, 2021, 10:39:07 AM
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I’m about to become “awake”. Should be getting some V-hollow Lights 5.6 in the mail on the next day or so… I’ve been on Indys for a long time I’m not sure how bad the learning curve will be, but I’m excited to at least try something new. Last set of Ventures I had was over a decade ago…
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There's no learning curve. these trucks go in a straight line

Only someone who is not AWAKE would say such an ignorant statement. Ventures turn plenty, just like any truck dial them in with differnent bushings if you don't vibe with the stocks. Top washer removal or flat is mandatory no matter what truck. That's the first step to success. Then after waxing the cups you're pretty much fully woke.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on October 14, 2021, 01:18:05 PM
I’m about to become “awake”. Should be getting some V-hollow Lights 5.6 in the mail on the next day or so… I’ve been on Indys for a long time I’m not sure how bad the learning curve will be, but I’m excited to at least try something new. Last set of Ventures I had was over a decade ago…
Honestly they don’t really turn all that different, at least to me. Some people will tell you how different the turning feels but to me it’s pretty damn similar (I’m talking about venture hi’s compared to indys of course, not venture lows).

The real adjustment you might have to get used to is the pop feel that Ventures give vs. Indy, and the grind feel as well. If you’re used to the light pop feel that indys give then prepare for a rude awakening (pun intended) with ventures. They make it to where your tail feels a lot heavier to pop, which could be a bit of a bitch to get used to for flip tricks. Prepare for ghost pop and having to use a lot more effort when popping. For tricks that require a lot of ollie power though you might find that the heavier feeling pop is more beneficial cuz it makes getting a higher, floatier, more controlled ollie easier. I actually forgot how big of a difference the pop feel was from indys until recently when I stepped on a friends board who had the same exact board shape and dimensions and wheel size as me, the only difference was that he had indys on while I had ventures, and his tail felt light as fuck. Like, noticeably lighter to the point where flip tricks were a lot easier to get around but popping ollies felt super anemic so it was hard to get a higher more controlled ollie. I knew ventures made your tail feel heavier and indys make ‘em feel lighter but I didn’t know it would be THAT noticeable, it was pretty crazy. Of course, I’m just speaking from my own personal experience, who knows, you might not have any ghost pop issues at all.

Also, ventures grind feels a bit more laggy for chunkier curbs. Ventures have like a real “stop go stop go” grind feeling if that makes sense, like a more tuggy feeling grind, a grind you kinda got to tug through, while Indys tend to have a smoother feeling grind where you just glide all the way through with no tugs. Grinding something chunky with ventures might require more wax with ventures than with indys.

Also one more thing: if you ride more on the looser side then you might notice that ventures give you a more stable and comfortable feeling loose vs a more squirrelly and harder to control loose with indys.

Hope you like em tho! Keep this thread updated on how you end up feeling about them! Indys and ventures are my favorite trucks and I always find myself alternating between the two these days. They both have their pros n cons.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on October 14, 2021, 01:42:56 PM
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Honestly they don’t really turn all that different, at least to me. Some people will tell you how different the turning feels but to me it’s pretty damn similar (I’m talking about venture hi’s compared to indys of course, not venture lows).

The real adjustment you might have to get used to is the pop feel that Ventures give vs. Indy, and the grind feel as well. If you’re used to the light pop feel that indys give then prepare for a rude awakening (pun intended) with ventures. They make it to where your tail feels a lot heavier to pop, which could be a bit of a bitch to get used to for flip tricks. Prepare for ghost pop and having to use a lot more effort when popping. For tricks that require a lot of ollie power though you might find that the heavier feeling pop is more beneficial cuz it makes getting a higher, floatier, more controlled ollie easier. I actually forgot how big of a difference the pop feel was from indys until recently when I stepped on a friends board who had the same exact board shape and dimensions and wheel size as me, the only difference was that he had indys on while I had ventures, and his tail felt light as fuck. Like, noticeably lighter to the point where flip tricks were a lot easier to get around but popping ollies felt super anemic so it was hard to get a higher more controlled ollie. I knew ventures made your tail feel heavier and indys make ‘em feel lighter but I didn’t know it would be THAT noticeable, it was pretty crazy. Of course, I’m just speaking from my own personal experience, who knows, you might not have any ghost pop issues at all.

Also, ventures grind feels a bit more laggy for chunkier curbs. Ventures have like a real “stop go stop go” grind feeling if that makes sense, like a more tuggy feeling grind, a grind you kinda got to tug through, while Indys tend to have a smoother feeling grind where you just glide all the way through with no tugs. Grinding something chunky with ventures might require more wax with ventures than with indys.

Also one more thing: if you ride more on the looser side then you might notice that ventures give you a more stable and comfortable feeling loose vs a more squirrelly and harder to control loose with indys.

Hope you like em tho! Keep this thread updated on how you end up feeling about them! Indys and ventures are my favorite trucks and I always find myself alternating between the two these days. They both have their pros n cons.

Cheers man! I do believe the turn will be fine… I’ve been seeing videos of pros skating them and doesn’t seem like they have any problem turning. They actually look somehow surfy from the footage I’m seeing. I did get the V-hollow lights, so hopefully the lighter truck makes up for the heavier pop. They are also a bit lower at 53.5mm, altho that’s the hight of my indy forged hollows. Tbh I’m just excited to try something new… if it doesn’t work out I’ll try something else.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on October 14, 2021, 01:53:14 PM
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Honestly they don’t really turn all that different, at least to me. Some people will tell you how different the turning feels but to me it’s pretty damn similar (I’m talking about venture hi’s compared to indys of course, not venture lows).

The real adjustment you might have to get used to is the pop feel that Ventures give vs. Indy, and the grind feel as well. If you’re used to the light pop feel that indys give then prepare for a rude awakening (pun intended) with ventures. They make it to where your tail feels a lot heavier to pop, which could be a bit of a bitch to get used to for flip tricks. Prepare for ghost pop and having to use a lot more effort when popping. For tricks that require a lot of ollie power though you might find that the heavier feeling pop is more beneficial cuz it makes getting a higher, floatier, more controlled ollie easier. I actually forgot how big of a difference the pop feel was from indys until recently when I stepped on a friends board who had the same exact board shape and dimensions and wheel size as me, the only difference was that he had indys on while I had ventures, and his tail felt light as fuck. Like, noticeably lighter to the point where flip tricks were a lot easier to get around but popping ollies felt super anemic so it was hard to get a higher more controlled ollie. I knew ventures made your tail feel heavier and indys make ‘em feel lighter but I didn’t know it would be THAT noticeable, it was pretty crazy. Of course, I’m just speaking from my own personal experience, who knows, you might not have any ghost pop issues at all.

Also, ventures grind feels a bit more laggy for chunkier curbs. Ventures have like a real “stop go stop go” grind feeling if that makes sense, like a more tuggy feeling grind, a grind you kinda got to tug through, while Indys tend to have a smoother feeling grind where you just glide all the way through with no tugs. Grinding something chunky with ventures might require more wax with ventures than with indys.

Also one more thing: if you ride more on the looser side then you might notice that ventures give you a more stable and comfortable feeling loose vs a more squirrelly and harder to control loose with indys.

Hope you like em tho! Keep this thread updated on how you end up feeling about them! Indys and ventures are my favorite trucks and I always find myself alternating between the two these days. They both have their pros n cons.
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Cheers man! I do believe the turn will be fine… I’ve been seeing videos of pros skating them and doesn’t seem like they have any problem turning. They actually look somehow surfy from the footage I’m seeing. I did get the V-hollow lights, so hopefully the lighter truck makes up for the heavier pop. They are also a bit lower at 53.5mm, altho that’s the hight of my indy forged hollows. Tbh I’m just excited to try something new… if it doesn’t work out I’ll try something else.
As long as you ride a shorter wheelbase deck like 14 to 14 25 the pop will feel perfect.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 14, 2021, 02:10:42 PM
venture forged with have you at 52mm truck height. cast plates are 53.5mm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on October 14, 2021, 03:44:04 PM
venture forged with have you at 52mm truck height. cast plates are 53.5mm
ah ok, that’s even better. I prefer that mid truck hight, feels snappier. I could swear I’ve seen somewhere that venture hi’s are 55mm, but I must be trippin’… just went to skatedeluxe and they confirm what you said.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: HyperBeam on October 14, 2021, 06:16:19 PM
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There's no learning curve. these trucks go in a straight line
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Only someone who is not AWAKE would say such an ignorant statement. Ventures turn plenty, just like any truck dial them in with differnent bushings if you don't vibe with the stocks. Top washer removal or flat is mandatory no matter what truck. That's the first step to success. Then after waxing the cups you're pretty much fully woke.

are you being ironic or sincere?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 14, 2021, 06:33:58 PM
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I’m about to become “awake”. Should be getting some V-hollow Lights 5.6 in the mail on the next day or so… I’ve been on Indys for a long time I’m not sure how bad the learning curve will be, but I’m excited to at least try something new. Last set of Ventures I had was over a decade ago…
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There's no learning curve. these trucks go in a straight line
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Only someone who is not AWAKE would say such an ignorant statement. Ventures turn plenty, just like any truck dial them in with differnent bushings if you don't vibe with the stocks. Top washer removal or flat is mandatory no matter what truck. That's the first step to success. Then after waxing the cups you're pretty much fully woke.
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are you being ironic or sincere?

The replacement of the top washer with a flat one is as sincere a comment as you can make regarding Ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 14, 2021, 07:05:34 PM
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/fall21/06-ve-fl21-d1-polished.jpg)

Feeling a bit mind fucked right now - always assumed that the V-Lights & V-Hollow came in 5.2 Lo, but according to this chart only the Titanium comes in 5.2 Lo. I know Lo cuts off at 5.2, but I'm pretty sure 5.2 Lo V-Hollow was a thing, Ben Degros even did a video on it.

Someone clear this up for me please and can we list down the heights too?

Pulled these off Tactics
5.2
Venture Lo w/ Cast Baseplate - 48.3mm
Venture Hi w/ Cast Baseplate - 53.5mm

5.6
Venture Hi w/ Cast Baseplate - 53.5mm
Venture Hi w/ Forged Baseplate - 52mm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 14, 2021, 07:33:16 PM
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/fall21/06-ve-fl21-d1-polished.jpg)

Feeling a bit mind fucked right now - always assumed that the V-Lights & V-Hollow came in 5.2 Lo, but according to this chart only the Titanium comes in 5.2 Lo. I know Lo cuts off at 5.2, but I'm pretty sure 5.2 Lo V-Hollow was a thing, Ben Degros even did a video on it.

Someone clear this up for me please and can we list down the heights too?

Pulled these off Tactics
5.2
Venture Lo w/ Cast Baseplate - 48.3mm
Venture Hi w/ Cast Baseplate - 53.5mm

5.6
Venture Hi w/ Cast Baseplate - 53.5mm
Venture Hi w/ Forged Baseplate - 52mm

they were very real, here's an out of stock parade page with pix - https://www.paradeworld.com/products/venture-52-low-v-hollow-all-polished-trucks-pair-3-1649355653190/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LewFarrell on October 14, 2021, 09:50:19 PM
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/fall21/06-ve-fl21-d1-polished.jpg)

Feeling a bit mind fucked right now - always assumed that the V-Lights & V-Hollow came in 5.2 Lo, but according to this chart only the Titanium comes in 5.2 Lo. I know Lo cuts off at 5.2, but I'm pretty sure 5.2 Lo V-Hollow was a thing, Ben Degros even did a video on it.

Someone clear this up for me please and can we list down the heights too?

Pulled these off Tactics
5.2
Venture Lo w/ Cast Baseplate - 48.3mm
Venture Hi w/ Cast Baseplate - 53.5mm

5.6
Venture Hi w/ Cast Baseplate - 53.5mm
Venture Hi w/ Forged Baseplate - 52mm
(https://i.imgur.com/U0jZuWT.jpeg)

5.2 lo V-Lights are in the latest drop. They're just not in the "polished" category as they have a blue baseplate. I have them, they're rad.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 14, 2021, 09:56:45 PM

They look like they will be more of a special edition, rather than a standard line, moving forward.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 14, 2021, 10:17:33 PM
Thanks y'all, hadn't had my morning coffee and I was freaking out, thought my Awaken life had been a lie.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on October 15, 2021, 10:56:15 AM

SoCal has titaniums ya’ll
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I was pleased to see the titaniums sold out on So Cal Skateshop.  Saved me from a pricey impulse buy.  I am currently skating a 5.6 hollow hangar on cast plates.  They are great. I don't need the temptation.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 15, 2021, 06:10:25 PM
I swear we're gonna wake up one day and like thunder it'll be....they're all high...but some may be lower than others.....it's actually always been this way....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DaSk8D00D on October 15, 2021, 08:07:19 PM
5.6 Titaniums felt great in my first session with them. They have clear bushings that are pretty sick too
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 16, 2021, 07:45:10 AM
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Just eyeballing my trucks gives me joy. It's like looking at a mag or whatever. Get lost in the details are time passes slower.
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I do the same thing. I like looking at my setup and observing all the details. The grooves of my trucks. The scrapes on my deck. It's an obsession but I love it lol.
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it's sorta like a therapy..same feeling when setting up a christmas complete or gripping a new board.
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I dread looking at a Christmas complete. Everything still looking way too new and untouched, just knowing that I still have to break in the new trucks/bushings and the struggles that are gonna come with it..... it’s enough to get me in a brief panic if I sit and think about it for too long hah. I can definitely agree with the gripping a new board thing tho or just sitting and staring at a nice beat up pair of trucks on your setup; it’s such a joyful feeling.
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Yes I agree. Christmas complete is anxiety. Broken in setup is therapy. My wife thinks I'm weird and obsessed lol. I am and I'm proud of it.
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Brand new everything except some old ass trucks is my happy place.

Yes. I love it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 16, 2021, 07:53:19 AM
I swear we're gonna wake up one day and like thunder it'll be....they're all high...but some may be lower than others.....it's actually always been this way....

Awaken to Venture, that's how we roll
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on October 21, 2021, 12:00:01 PM
Does anyone know if streetcorner era lo hangers will work with today's baseplate's?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 21, 2021, 12:19:43 PM
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I swear we're gonna wake up one day and like thunder it'll be....they're all high...but some may be lower than others.....it's actually always been this way....
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Awaken to Venture, that's how we roll
53.5 cast and 52mm forged seems too damn believeable. anyone with calipers is free to prove me wrong though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: user18081971 on October 21, 2021, 02:23:36 PM
Does anyone know if streetcorner era lo hangers will work with today's baseplate's?

I’ll check when I get home in a few hours.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on October 21, 2021, 03:46:13 PM
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I’ll check when I get home in a few hours.
Thanks a ton my man. My goal is to put those hangers on the baseplates of a 5.2hi (if that matters)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on October 21, 2021, 04:08:01 PM
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I’ll check when I get home in a few hours.
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Thanks a ton my man. My goal is to put those hangers on the baseplates of a 5.2hi (if that matters)
I've tried it and it was fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: user18081971 on October 21, 2021, 04:42:04 PM
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I’ll check when I get home in a few hours.
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Thanks a ton my man. My goal is to put those hangers on the baseplates of a 5.2hi (if that matters)
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I've tried it and it was fine.
I can attest to this. Kingpin length is exactly the same as my dlx ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on October 21, 2021, 04:45:43 PM
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I’ll check when I get home in a few hours.
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Thanks a ton my man. My goal is to put those hangers on the baseplates of a 5.2hi (if that matters)
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I've tried it and it was fine.
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I can attest to this. Kingpin length is exactly the same as my dlx ventures.
Ok thanks guys!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on October 23, 2021, 08:35:51 AM

SoCal has titaniums ya’ll
I was pleased to see the titaniums sold out on So Cal Skateshop.  Saved me from a pricey impulse buy.  I am currently skating a 5.6 hollow hangar on cast plates.  They are great. I don't need the temptation.

how is this set up? looking to lighten the pop feel without changing the cast height.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on October 23, 2021, 09:39:24 AM
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SoCal has titaniums ya’ll
I was pleased to see the titaniums sold out on So Cal Skateshop.  Saved me from a pricey impulse buy.  I am currently skating a 5.6 hollow hangar on cast plates.  They are great. I don't need the temptation.
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how is this set up? looking to lighten the pop feel without changing the cast height.
I’m running the the TI hangar on cast and I think it works great. Lighter but you keep the wheelbase and height of the cast plates
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on October 23, 2021, 11:48:41 AM
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SoCal has titaniums ya’ll
I was pleased to see the titaniums sold out on So Cal Skateshop.  Saved me from a pricey impulse buy.  I am currently skating a 5.6 hollow hangar on cast plates.  They are great. I don't need the temptation.
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how is this set up? looking to lighten the pop feel without changing the cast height.
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I’m running the the TI hangar on cast and I think it works great. Lighter but you keep the wheelbase and height of the cast plates

Yeah, I agree. I really like the cast in terms of overall wheelbase and pop. Adding the hollow hangar results in a more nimble/manageable feel as compared to the standards in my opinion. I asked venture if they have any plans of making a hollow kingpin/cast truck like the thunder team hollows and sadly they said no. I think that setup would be incredible.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 23, 2021, 04:42:13 PM
venture should at least sell cast baseplates separately. i hold on to mine for dear life
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: baustin on October 26, 2021, 11:42:16 AM
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SoCal has titaniums ya’ll
I was pleased to see the titaniums sold out on So Cal Skateshop.  Saved me from a pricey impulse buy.  I am currently skating a 5.6 hollow hangar on cast plates.  They are great. I don't need the temptation.
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how is this set up? looking to lighten the pop feel without changing the cast height.
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I’m running the the TI hangar on cast and I think it works great. Lighter but you keep the wheelbase and height of the cast plates
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Yeah, I agree. I really like the cast in terms of overall wheelbase and pop. Adding the hollow hangar results in a more nimble/manageable feel as compared to the standards in my opinion. I asked venture if they have any plans of making a hollow kingpin/cast truck like the thunder team hollows and sadly they said no. I think that setup would be incredible.

Has anyone ever been able to definitively say how hollow/forged versions of the big 3 create a longer wb over their standard/cast counterparts? If the hangars are interchangeable especially, I’m interested in what’s going on with those baseplates. I ask a truck co. a super technical question like that in their dm’s it usually elicits a vague response that doesn’t answer the question like they have no idea wtf I just said but don’t want to put more effort in. It’s also very possible there’s just a few key holders to that type of information and they’re not the ones running the Instagram accounts. If such nerds exist within truck companies I wish they’d post up in here and give us the real facts and data we crave
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 26, 2021, 12:38:08 PM
not my local but im thirsty
(https://i.ibb.co/DCXPRcv/7-FAA9789-111-B-4669-A155-ED77-F0-D150-D1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6PhcW9T)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 26, 2021, 01:17:00 PM
not my local but im thirsty
(https://i.ibb.co/DCXPRcv/7-FAA9789-111-B-4669-A155-ED77-F0-D150-D1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6PhcW9T)

sick, i feel like it's not often we get a color baseplate with non-color hanger? but maybe i just don't notice unless it's white
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 26, 2021, 02:16:32 PM
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SoCal has titaniums ya’ll
I was pleased to see the titaniums sold out on So Cal Skateshop.  Saved me from a pricey impulse buy.  I am currently skating a 5.6 hollow hangar on cast plates.  They are great. I don't need the temptation.
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how is this set up? looking to lighten the pop feel without changing the cast height.
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I’m running the the TI hangar on cast and I think it works great. Lighter but you keep the wheelbase and height of the cast plates
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Yeah, I agree. I really like the cast in terms of overall wheelbase and pop. Adding the hollow hangar results in a more nimble/manageable feel as compared to the standards in my opinion. I asked venture if they have any plans of making a hollow kingpin/cast truck like the thunder team hollows and sadly they said no. I think that setup would be incredible.
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Has anyone ever been able to definitively say how hollow/forged versions of the big 3 create a longer wb over their standard/cast counterparts? If the hangars are interchangeable especially, I’m interested in what’s going on with those baseplates. I ask a truck co. a super technical question like that in their dm’s it usually elicits a vague response that doesn’t answer the question like they have no idea wtf I just said but don’t want to put more effort in. It’s also very possible there’s just a few key holders to that type of information and they’re not the ones running the Instagram accounts. If such nerds exist within truck companies I wish they’d post up in here and give us the real facts and data we crave

Check the "wb of your trucks" thread, it is usually .1875-.25 in more.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on October 26, 2021, 06:29:05 PM
Do Krux Downlow kingpins work with Venture High V-Light 5.8's?
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Post by: toe_knee on October 26, 2021, 09:22:09 PM
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sick, i feel like it's not often we get a color baseplate with non-color hanger? but maybe i just don't notice unless it's white

I used to paint mine, pull the pivot cup out, then go to town, even had like metallic blue ones, Tony Silva asked about a pair I painted seafoam green one time, always like the painted baseplate and raw hangar look
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: timv on October 26, 2021, 11:32:19 PM
Do Krux Downlow kingpins work with Venture High V-Light 5.8's?
Yes.  Getting the kingpin out of forged plates is a pain….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on October 28, 2021, 07:07:13 AM
Inverted kingpins in Venture hi's? The kingpin is already plenty low, not really worth the extra headache imo

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on October 28, 2021, 08:13:23 AM
Inverted kingpins in Venture hi's? The kingpin is already plenty low, not really worth the extra headache imo

IIRC, @Lloyd Braun did it and said it wasn't worth it. Also, I don't know of anyone ever getting the KP out of a forged plate...I'm sure its been done but the impression that I get is that it is extremely difficult.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on October 28, 2021, 09:14:24 AM
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Inverted kingpins in Venture hi's? The kingpin is already plenty low, not really worth the extra headache imo
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IIRC, @Lloyd Braun did it and said it wasn't worth it. Also, I don't know of anyone ever getting the KP out of a forged plate...I'm sure its been done but the impression that I get is that it is extremely difficult.

Thanks for the patient responses...if I'm being honest I don't know the difference between forged and cast base plates. Looking it up now.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on October 28, 2021, 10:20:09 AM
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Inverted kingpins in Venture hi's? The kingpin is already plenty low, not really worth the extra headache imo
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IIRC, @Lloyd Braun did it and said it wasn't worth it. Also, I don't know of anyone ever getting the KP out of a forged plate...I'm sure its been done but the impression that I get is that it is extremely difficult.
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Thanks for the patient responses...if I'm being honest I don't know the difference between forged and cast base plates. Looking it up now.

No worries, the forged plates are what's on the lights/hollows/titaniums. Rather than the metal for the baseplate being cast, it is forged so it can be both thinner and stronger (the hangars are always still cast). It also makes it way harder to get a kingpin out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rosemaryBB on October 28, 2021, 11:29:15 AM
I know I could just dig back in this or the regular truck set-ups thread, but what are the unique traits of Venture vs the other next big truck brands? I've tried just about every other decent, or half-decent company at this point and it's got me curious what's up with these.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ImmanuelCunt on October 28, 2021, 11:50:23 AM
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Inverted kingpins in Venture hi's? The kingpin is already plenty low, not really worth the extra headache imo
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IIRC, @Lloyd Braun did it and said it wasn't worth it. Also, I don't know of anyone ever getting the KP out of a forged plate...I'm sure its been done but the impression that I get is that it is extremely difficult.

I did the conversion on thunder forged but I needed 10 kg sledge hammer to knock out the kingpin :D

I am contemplating getting 5.6s since an eternity but I am afraid of the "harder" grind because of the hanger shape some people mentioned because most ledges I skate are rather rough, chunked and have gaps/notches.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on October 28, 2021, 11:54:05 AM
I know I could just dig back in this or the regular truck set-ups thread, but what are the unique traits of Venture vs the other next big truck brands? I've tried just about every other decent, or half-decent company at this point and it's got me curious what's up with these.

They're not Ace turn but they turn just as good, if not better, than Indy and the cast parts are still poured at ermico. Although, I will say the caveat being they need to be paired on a short wheelbase deck to acheive those results. Besides Destructo's, these are the lowest kingpins in the game and the hanger yoke sits tucked furthur back than the baseplate so these are like nearly impossible to hang up on, just stock as they are without fucking with inverted kingpins. The grind is smooth and consistent, I run them with 1/8" risers and my pop feels fine. I'm different than most who ride them for the street/tech purposes (crooked grind pinch and all that) which they will chime in. Tranny/curbs/hills, these rule. I tried going back to some Ace 55's yesterday and it just wasn't right. Feels like home now on an 8.25"-8.38" short wheelbase board with some 5.8's.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on October 28, 2021, 12:00:44 PM
I know I could just dig back in this or the regular truck set-ups thread, but what are the unique traits of Venture vs the other next big truck brands? I've tried just about every other decent, or half-decent company at this point and it's got me curious what's up with these.

For me - since I still try tricks at my old ass age - Ventures really allow for more stable roll aways from landings, as opposed to my more squirrelly experiences with Indy's (which is pretty much the only other truck I messed with)...  Ventures also help me focus less on the pop of an ollie, and more so the follow-through of a trick.  I don't know maybe that one is too hard to explain? It's more of a feeling thing. 

Yes, Ventures turn "stiffer" or the carve is way less surfier than Indy's.  That can be a disadvantage depending how/where you skate.

But maybe this one is more important to some: Venture's slight increase in true-axle wheelbase has allowed me to mount them on boards with wheelbases ranging from 14-14.25 without much deviance in performance, making it kinda sorta my sweet spot or "goldilocks effect" of a setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on October 28, 2021, 12:02:32 PM
Cheers to @logjammin - they expressed it better than I did.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on October 28, 2021, 12:05:42 PM
Oh sorry, one more thing - I will say in my experience with grinding: you need to push more/faster to grind as good as you would with Indy's.  The cast material on the hangar of Indy's is just much more buttery for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 28, 2021, 08:30:25 PM
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I know I could just dig back in this or the regular truck set-ups thread, but what are the unique traits of Venture vs the other next big truck brands? I've tried just about every other decent, or half-decent company at this point and it's got me curious what's up with these.
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They're not Ace turn but they turn just as good, if not better, than Indy and the cast parts are still poured at ermico. Although, I will say the caveat being they need to be paired on a short wheelbase deck to acheive those results. Besides Destructo's, these are the lowest kingpins in the game and the hanger yoke sits tucked furthur back than the baseplate so these are like nearly impossible to hang up on, just stock as they are without fucking with inverted kingpins. The grind is smooth and consistent, I run them with 1/8" risers and my pop feels fine. I'm different than most who ride them for the street/tech purposes (crooked grind pinch and all that) which they will chime in. Tranny/curbs/hills, these rule. I tried going back to some Ace 55's yesterday and it just wasn't right. Feels like home now on an 8.25"-8.38" short wheelbase board with some 5.8's.

This is A++
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 28, 2021, 10:12:05 PM
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I know I could just dig back in this or the regular truck set-ups thread, but what are the unique traits of Venture vs the other next big truck brands? I've tried just about every other decent, or half-decent company at this point and it's got me curious what's up with these.
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They're not Ace turn but they turn just as good, if not better, than Indy and the cast parts are still poured at ermico. Although, I will say the caveat being they need to be paired on a short wheelbase deck to acheive those results. Besides Destructo's, these are the lowest kingpins in the game and the hanger yoke sits tucked furthur back than the baseplate so these are like nearly impossible to hang up on, just stock as they are without fucking with inverted kingpins. The grind is smooth and consistent, I run them with 1/8" risers and my pop feels fine. I'm different than most who ride them for the street/tech purposes (crooked grind pinch and all that) which they will chime in. Tranny/curbs/hills, these rule. I tried going back to some Ace 55's yesterday and it just wasn't right. Feels like home now on an 8.25"-8.38" short wheelbase board with some 5.8's.
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This is A++

Pinch on the Lo variants with the forged baseplate is INSANELY good, great on the regular Hi variants like the 5.6 V-Hollow but on the 5.2 it's other worldly. You know exactly where you are on the ledge and you can really sit into the grind. I would say slide beats Thunder because of the baseplate design, you can really feel the baseplate rubbing against the obstacle.

Having stayed on Ventures for my last 3 setups I can say the pop feel is definitely heft and welcome change from the limpness of Thunder. Maybe it's because I'm riding the 148 Titanium so the weight reduction is working against me.

I always overanalyze but skating Ventures is a commitment, it's not like Thunder or Indy that will pair well with 80% of deck dimensions so you have to be conscious of your deck length and wheelbase.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: timv on October 28, 2021, 11:02:33 PM
I broke the hollow kingpins on two of my forged plates.
Deluxe sent me new titanium ventures for my trouble!!!
I decided to try Krux DLK’s in my forged plates.
I had to drill out the broken out section and then pound out in a vise and large hammer… it wasn’t easy…..
I’ve broken one Krux DLK so far also….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Damoforce on October 29, 2021, 03:30:34 AM
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Inverted kingpins in Venture hi's? The kingpin is already plenty low, not really worth the extra headache imo
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IIRC, @Lloyd Braun did it and said it wasn't worth it. Also, I don't know of anyone ever getting the KP out of a forged plate...I'm sure its been done but the impression that I get is that it is extremely difficult.
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I did the conversion on thunder forged but I needed 10 kg sledge hammer to knock out the kingpin :D

I am contemplating getting 5.6s since an eternity but I am afraid of the "harder" grind because of the hanger shape some people mentioned because most ledges I skate are rather rough, chunked and have gaps/notches.

I snapped my kingpin in my Thunder Hollow lights with the forged baseplate. For the love or anything, can not get it out!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 29, 2021, 07:44:07 AM
I have issues even getting kingpins out of some cast baseplates these days....

Re : grind on ventures.....I mainly notice it on angle iron being a bit stickier....not so much on concrete.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 29, 2021, 08:39:02 PM
anyone try both the ace low bushings and the supercush 88s? which did you prefer?

looking to make a big boy/6.1 setup for small ny transition (3"-5") and dont want to switch to aces pop feel. hoping to learn kickflip to fakie and alley-oop backside flip this winter
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on October 30, 2021, 03:24:36 PM
Hey guys, do you guys use 1/8 risers with 5.6 hi's for wheels over 54mm? im skating og classics rn and wanna know if I can throw away my risers cuz I was on thunder 149 before

im expecting ill need them cuz im 175pounds and venture 5.6 are only like 1mm higher than thunder 149

also, if the shop deck I bought with them ends up having a long wheelbase, what do I do to make them more surfy? can I just run them with bottom washers off without risking bushing degradation?

I also have my conical thunder bottom bushings that I shaved down like an mm or two (1 is kinda cracked). Could I put those in ventures to make them turn more "inward" to avoid wheelbite as well?

planning to try all of these strategies but wondering if anyone uses these techniques already
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on October 30, 2021, 05:48:36 PM
I'm cursed with loving loose trucks while being heavy, 220ish. I def use 1/8" risers with regular 5.8's and have to go 52mm or the wheelbite is still kinda bad. I can run Ace's with 1/8" risers up to 56mm and get like zero wheelbite. At your weight I'd say 54mm and risers you'll be good, minimal wheelbite.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 30, 2021, 10:56:20 PM
I think you're still pretty close but, my thunder team 148's vs venture 5.6's.....the thunders I had more wheelbite for sure.  Seems like the geometry makes a difference....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on October 31, 2021, 04:24:37 PM
I think you're still pretty close but, my thunder team 148's vs venture 5.6's.....the thunders I had more wheelbite for sure.  Seems like the geometry makes a difference....

maybe the "quick" turn of thunder is owed to the truck arcing backwards like ace then pressing down onto the deck (explains why they have a quick turn but bad wheelbite)

and ventures dont have much arc anyway so perhaps the wheelbite is a lot less noticeable... hmm I guess ill have to see
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 01, 2021, 07:48:05 AM
The ollie 5.8s is great
That’s it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: HyperBeam on November 01, 2021, 12:14:26 PM
thought i'd post this here. if anyone wants some 5.8 his, slightly ground down, and in the bay area—i threw this up on craigslist earlier: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/spo/d/oakland-venture-skateboard-trucks/7402109539.html
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bbk on November 01, 2021, 03:45:42 PM
I just set up some 5.25 v-light on a 14.2 wb board and put bones washers on top, turn was amazing right away.
Pop timing was a bit of though, switched them over to my regular 14 wb.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 01, 2021, 10:37:47 PM
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I think you're still pretty close but, my thunder team 148's vs venture 5.6's.....the thunders I had more wheelbite for sure.  Seems like the geometry makes a difference....
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maybe the "quick" turn of thunder is owed to the truck arcing backwards like ace then pressing down onto the deck (explains why they have a quick turn but bad wheelbite)

and ventures dont have much arc anyway so perhaps the wheelbite is a lot less noticeable... hmm I guess ill have to see

Re making them feel surfy....it's a tall order but riptide pivots made a difference....I don't weigh anything so maybe the experience is different but I found that I could afford to skate ventures looser than thunders...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 02, 2021, 04:39:38 AM
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I think you're still pretty close but, my thunder team 148's vs venture 5.6's.....the thunders I had more wheelbite for sure.  Seems like the geometry makes a difference....
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maybe the "quick" turn of thunder is owed to the truck arcing backwards like ace then pressing down onto the deck (explains why they have a quick turn but bad wheelbite)

and ventures dont have much arc anyway so perhaps the wheelbite is a lot less noticeable... hmm I guess ill have to see
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Re making them feel surfy....it's a tall order but riptide pivots made a difference....I don't weigh anything so maybe the experience is different but I found that I could afford to skate ventures looser than thunders...
definitely try the indy 78a bushings if you are really light.
i weigh 190-200 lbs and just recently had to add a harder top bushing after breaking them in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Reed Richards on November 02, 2021, 04:07:11 PM
So here it is.  I've heard for years previous that Ventures don't turn.  It was like the main stereotype attached to the brand for awhile.  In the last few years they've kind of exploded in popularity and are the truck of choice for many.  I've had them recommended to me over Thunders.  Did their turning improve (with stock bushings, let's say) or did the marketing just get better?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 02, 2021, 04:15:29 PM
thought i'd post this here. if anyone wants some 5.8 his, slightly ground down, and in the bay area—i threw this up on craigslist earlier: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/spo/d/oakland-venture-skateboard-trucks/7402109539.html

You live right by me and I am also unloading all my Ventures. What did you stick with?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 02, 2021, 04:17:41 PM
So here it is.  I've heard for years previous that Ventures don't turn.  It was like the main stereotype attached to the brand for awhile.  In the last few years they've kind of exploded in popularity and are the truck of choice for many.  I've had them recommended to me over Thunders.  Did their turning improve (with stock bushings, let's say) or did the marketing just get better?

Both, the low's didn't turn and they didn't make highs in wider sizes for a long time so not many people rode them. They expanded their line to include 5.6 and 6.1 around the time Bobby's video came out. People then realized the new trucks are completely different and have a different turn, but a turn that's just fine for the most part. They also switched from Street Corner to DLX and QC improved.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on November 02, 2021, 04:29:18 PM
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So here it is.  I've heard for years previous that Ventures don't turn.  It was like the main stereotype attached to the brand for awhile.  In the last few years they've kind of exploded in popularity and are the truck of choice for many.  I've had them recommended to me over Thunders.  Did their turning improve (with stock bushings, let's say) or did the marketing just get better?
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Both, the low's didn't turn and they didn't make highs in wider sizes for a long time so not many people rode them. They expanded their line to include 5.6 and 6.1 around the time Bobby's video came out. People then realized the new trucks are completely different and have a different turn, but a turn that's just fine for the most part. They also switched from Street Corner to DLX and QC improved.

If you look at where the kingpin is set through the baseplate on the Street Corner Ventures you’ll see on some sets the kingpin is drilled closer to the part of the baseplate that faces the middle of the board. All of the DLX ones it’s slightly further back which gets the angle of the kingpin closer to the axle which improves the turning radius. The only downside is the washer now rubs the hanger but as stated before is alleviated by switching to a flat washer. Also bushings are now 90a stock instead of 92a.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: HyperBeam on November 02, 2021, 11:21:11 PM
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thought i'd post this here. if anyone wants some 5.8 his, slightly ground down, and in the bay area—i threw this up on craigslist earlier: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/spo/d/oakland-venture-skateboard-trucks/7402109539.html
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You live right by me and I am also unloading all my Ventures. What did you stick with?

im on indys rn. what about you? what spots do you skate?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Movies on November 03, 2021, 03:19:18 AM
Have the shape of the 5.2 lo hangers changed over the last couple of years? I have two sets from a few years apart that are slightly different shapes (and geometry I believe). Both are from DLX and not Streetcorner.
Anyone know if they've updated the molds or something? They definitely don't sit on the baseplates in the same way and you can see subtle differences from almost every angle...

(https://i.ibb.co/2hGvCBk/20211103-014407.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2hGvCBk)(https://i.ibb.co/3r5FvzC/20211103-015056.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3r5FvzC)(https://i.ibb.co/vj9M2Xg/20211103-014806.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vj9M2Xg)(https://i.ibb.co/1TMdyCc/20211103-014022.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1TMdyCc)(https://i.ibb.co/pRksHTr/20211103-014234.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pRksHTr)(https://i.ibb.co/rtR174F/20211103-014600.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rtR174F)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 03, 2021, 06:20:36 AM
Have the shape of the 5.2 lo hangers changed over the last couple of years? I have two sets from a few years apart that are slightly different shapes (and geometry I believe). Both are from DLX and not Streetcorner.
Anyone know if they've updated the molds or something? They definitely don't sit on the baseplates in the same way and you can see subtle differences from almost every angle...

(https://i.ibb.co/2hGvCBk/20211103-014407.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2hGvCBk)(https://i.ibb.co/3r5FvzC/20211103-015056.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3r5FvzC)(https://i.ibb.co/vj9M2Xg/20211103-014806.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vj9M2Xg)(https://i.ibb.co/1TMdyCc/20211103-014022.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1TMdyCc)(https://i.ibb.co/pRksHTr/20211103-014234.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pRksHTr)(https://i.ibb.co/rtR174F/20211103-014600.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rtR174F)

I ‘need’ to get back to riding 5.2 lo’s. I gave mine away, regret doing so.
Do you have preference between the different trucks?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 03, 2021, 07:18:17 AM
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thought i'd post this here. if anyone wants some 5.8 his, slightly ground down, and in the bay area—i threw this up on craigslist earlier: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/spo/d/oakland-venture-skateboard-trucks/7402109539.html
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You live right by me and I am also unloading all my Ventures. What did you stick with?
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im on indys rn. what about you? what spots do you skate?

Indy Mids, I basically only skate the courthouse and Bella Vista in the mornings. I’d love more spots to skate sometimes I skate flat at the tennis courts at FM Smith park.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on November 03, 2021, 10:02:15 AM
thought i'd post this here. if anyone wants some 5.8 his, slightly ground down, and in the bay area—i threw this up on craigslist earlier: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/spo/d/oakland-venture-skateboard-trucks/7402109539.html

If you're down to meet somewhere in Berkeley, or Bella Vista/Rockridge/Emeryville next week I'd be happy to take those off your hands.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: HyperBeam on November 03, 2021, 11:33:39 AM
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thought i'd post this here. if anyone wants some 5.8 his, slightly ground down, and in the bay area—i threw this up on craigslist earlier: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/spo/d/oakland-venture-skateboard-trucks/7402109539.html
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If you're down to meet somewhere in Berkeley, or Bella Vista/Rockridge/Emeryville next week I'd be happy to take those off your hands.

sent you a pm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Movies on November 03, 2021, 02:33:01 PM
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Have the shape of the 5.2 lo hangers changed over the last couple of years? I have two sets from a few years apart that are slightly different shapes (and geometry I believe). Both are from DLX and not Streetcorner.
Anyone know if they've updated the molds or something? They definitely don't sit on the baseplates in the same way and you can see subtle differences from almost every angle...

(https://i.ibb.co/2hGvCBk/20211103-014407.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2hGvCBk)(https://i.ibb.co/3r5FvzC/20211103-015056.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3r5FvzC)(https://i.ibb.co/vj9M2Xg/20211103-014806.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vj9M2Xg)(https://i.ibb.co/1TMdyCc/20211103-014022.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1TMdyCc)(https://i.ibb.co/pRksHTr/20211103-014234.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pRksHTr)(https://i.ibb.co/rtR174F/20211103-014600.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rtR174F)
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I ‘need’ to get back to riding 5.2 lo’s. I gave mine away, regret doing so.
Do you have preference between the different trucks?

I feel like the newer polished ones turn a bit better, but that could just be the madness messing with my head.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: arrbee on November 05, 2021, 04:58:27 AM
I slept the a few pages back when someone posted a So Cal having 5.8 titanium's. Anyone have any leads?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on November 05, 2021, 07:05:49 AM
I slept the a few pages back when someone posted a So Cal having 5.8 titanium's. Anyone have any leads?

https://www.paradeworld.com/product/venture-titanium-polished-trucks-525658-166-39480615338049/

Think Parade has them for $90
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: arrbee on November 05, 2021, 07:07:27 AM
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I slept the a few pages back when someone posted a So Cal having 5.8 titanium's. Anyone have any leads?
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https://www.paradeworld.com/product/venture-titanium-polished-trucks-525658-166-39480615338049/

Think Parade has them for $90

Checked there. 5.8's are already gone
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LewFarrell on November 05, 2021, 08:04:36 AM
On the topic of TI's - Has anyone seen 5.2lo Titaniums drop anywhere yet?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 05, 2021, 11:17:15 AM
On the topic of TI's - Has anyone seen 5.2lo Titaniums drop anywhere yet?

You and I might be the last few trying to skate lo’s. 5.0s not in stock at the locals, snagged some 5.2s and person questioned why I’d want them. Also no wheels in stock sub 53….everyone on monster trucks with vert boards
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: STAH on November 05, 2021, 01:18:45 PM
I miss the old venture 5.8 wides from 10 years ago. The hangar looked slim like a venture low, just more stretched out.. these new venture high hangars are so chonkey and weird looking. I just ordered a pair though so I guess ill see how I like them. the madness continues.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 05, 2021, 05:10:29 PM
I miss the old venture 5.8 wides from 10 years ago. The hangar looked slim like a venture low, just more stretched out.. these new venture high hangars are so chonkey and weird looking. I just ordered a pair though so I guess ill see how I like them. the madness continues.

Got a pic?
I’m old, so I like old shit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: STAH on November 05, 2021, 05:15:18 PM
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I miss the old venture 5.8 wides from 10 years ago. The hangar looked slim like a venture low, just more stretched out.. these new venture high hangars are so chonkey and weird looking. I just ordered a pair though so I guess ill see how I like them. the madness continues.
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Got a pic?
I’m old, so I like old shit


This was the best I could find, its a venture ad from 2012. there's a clip in there that shows them (not the best angle though)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-zIb-Wu2Ns
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on November 05, 2021, 06:24:41 PM
found this rather large picture from 2011, but hopefully it is enough to compare to a more recent 5.8?
(https://venturetrucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/venturewides.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: STAH on November 05, 2021, 06:57:32 PM
found this rather large picture from 2011, but hopefully it is enough to compare to a more recent 5.8?
(https://venturetrucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/venturewides.jpg)
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Maybe I'm just going crazy, but the old ones look slimmer to me. The new 5.8 highs have a more pronounced V shape to them.


https://res.cloudinary.com/dm1ikhi6x/image/upload/w_562,c_limit/q_auto:low,f_auto/products/hxggrvxtwn286xpkz2vc
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on November 05, 2021, 07:05:45 PM
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On the topic of TI's - Has anyone seen 5.2lo Titaniums drop anywhere yet?
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You and I might be the last few trying to skate lo’s. 5.0s not in stock at the locals, snagged some 5.2s and person questioned why I’d want them. Also no wheels in stock sub 53….everyone on monster trucks with vert boards

I’ve also been waiting for these to drop and ventures most recent post on IG regarding releasing new TI does not mention 5.2 low. But the catalog that I thought was fall 2021 mentioned TI 5.2 low

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 05, 2021, 08:38:41 PM
Maybe, maybe.
I’ve spoken to some venture customers that dipped after the deluxe takeover, saying that the geo was changed in a way they didn’t like. Which of course makes me want the old ones, much like the thunder 149ers.
I shouldn’t (can’t) ride shit that wide so I’ll just chill.
Ollie/nollie on 5.8s feels great tho. Love 5.0 lo’s (and 5.0 hi’s, the exception being the 5.0 hi’s look gross), love 5.2 lo’s. Never really liked 5.2 hi’s. Can’t call it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 06, 2021, 05:39:04 PM
Could just be me but the older ones looked a lot more like low versions than anything out now in the "regular height" options.

That is going by the 5.2 and the one set of 5.8 I have from when Dan Drehobl rode them.

When I say a lot lower, it is really only 1 mm or so, but that in truck terms is a huge difference.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 06, 2021, 06:21:48 PM
Could just be me but the older ones looked a lot more like low versions than anything out now in the "regular height" options.

That is going by the 5.2 and the one set of 5.8 I have from when Dan Drehobl rode them.

When I say a lot lower, it is really only 1 mm or so, but that in truck terms is a huge difference.

At the risk of sounding like the pervert I am….tell me more about Dan’s setup.
Super underrated skater, I didn’t appreciate his footage as much as I could, at the time it seemed like a lot of his stuff was tossed into random videos like thrasher 911/feats, or whatever, and I wanted to see Mnc dudes skating to Wu-Tang. Only.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on November 06, 2021, 06:28:05 PM
Looks like there are now v-light 5.6 and 5.8 lows? Unless it’s a typo

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Venture_V-Light_Low_Trucks/descpage-VTYTMTR.html
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Movies on November 06, 2021, 07:36:51 PM
found this rather large picture from 2011, but hopefully it is enough to compare to a more recent 5.8?
(https://venturetrucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/venturewides.jpg)

I wouldn't trust that this photo is actually of the 5.8s. Even in the new catalogs they just use the same image of a 5.2 lo and then photoshop the new graphics/logos/colours onto them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on November 06, 2021, 07:46:06 PM
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found this rather large picture from 2011, but hopefully it is enough to compare to a more recent 5.8?
(https://venturetrucks.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/venturewides.jpg)
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I wouldn't trust that this photo is actually of the 5.8s. Even in the new catalogs they just use the same image of a 5.2 lo and then photoshop the new graphics/logos/colours onto them.

yeah i know it's not a 100% chance of it being the right truck at all, but at least it's from the era they were made
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 07, 2021, 08:35:03 AM
Looks like there are now v-light 5.6 and 5.8 lows? Unless it’s a typo

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Venture_V-Light_Low_Trucks/descpage-VTYTMTR.html

Really wish it was true, but doesn't look like it from the recent catalog:

(https://www.venturetrucks.net/fall21/05-ve-fl21-d1-v-lights.jpg)

https://venturetrucks.net/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 07, 2021, 09:30:24 PM
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Could just be me but the older ones looked a lot more like low versions than anything out now in the "regular height" options.

That is going by the 5.2 and the one set of 5.8 I have from when Dan Drehobl rode them.

When I say a lot lower, it is really only 1 mm or so, but that in truck terms is a huge difference.
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At the risk of sounding like the pervert I am….tell me more about Dan’s setup.
Super underrated skater, I didn’t appreciate his footage as much as I could, at the time it seemed like a lot of his stuff was tossed into random videos like thrasher 911/feats, or whatever, and I wanted to see Mnc dudes skating to Wu-Tang. Only.

Maybe there were other factors, but I think he ended up going to Indy as Venture stopped making wider trucks around that time that things were still fairly narrow, but before truck sizes caught up, when there were no 5.8 Venture or 149s in Thunder, only Indy.

In the last main video he did on Ventures, he was ripping in 2003 Free Your Mind for Transworld, which show them quite well, as well as the hanger and half a baseplate completely broken out of the rest of the baseplate still bolted to his deck from one of the Transworld extra videos from a while back - Jason Hernandez Sessions number 11 or 12 I think.

This one has the attempt but not the broken truck so it must be another one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHGsQS-2FHo

All those videos are so good to watch.  Search:

TWS Vault: Jason Hernandez Episode


A screen shot of his Ventures from # 10:


(https://i.ibb.co/Jqqw53N/Drehobl-TWS-Vault.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BGG5qnm)


Update:

It is in # 10 right at the end.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k7PC0U_qMM

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on November 07, 2021, 11:11:42 PM
Has anyone used the bottom bushing without a washer to make ventures turn better?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: STAH on November 07, 2021, 11:15:56 PM
Has anyone used the bottom bushing without a washer to make ventures turn better?


nope, does it work?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on November 07, 2021, 11:18:05 PM
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Has anyone used the bottom bushing without a washer to make ventures turn better?
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nope, does it work?

yeah, the difference is night and day. The barrel bottom still stops wheelbite but the overall turn is much looser like Ace or Indy. I was just wondering if someone does this regularly cuz I doubt the bottom bushings will last long if I keep running them like this

but shit anything for the surf
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thanksgiving on November 08, 2021, 12:09:45 AM
yeah, the difference is night and day. The barrel bottom still stops wheelbite but the overall turn is much looser like Ace or Indy. I was just wondering if someone does this regularly cuz I doubt the bottom bushings will last long if I keep running them like this

but shit anything for the surf

because this increases the angle of your hanger from the baseplate it must shorten truck wb as well. changing the geometry like that could fuck up your pivot cups though...

i kind of want to try this with my aces...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FUBAR on November 08, 2021, 02:53:59 AM
If it’s been brought up before, sorry…but I see V Light lows in 8.25 and 8.5 on skate warehouse. I thought lows in those sizes were done for?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bbk on November 08, 2021, 03:08:37 AM
If it’s been brought up before, sorry…but I see V Light lows in 8.25 and 8.5 on skate warehouse. I thought lows in those sizes were done for?
not "done for", they have never existed. the catalog page is right up there, they come in 5.2 low and reg 5.8, SW fucked up.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 08, 2021, 06:11:57 AM
Some one DM'd Venture like a man and they said they had no plans for Lo any bigger than 5.2. But we gotta keep the dream alive.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 08, 2021, 07:33:46 AM
this 8.38/5.8 combo is making me regret selling the hollow 6.1s

i ride an 8.5 comfortably...should i buy them again to try and recreate the feeling of added stability? im feeling itchy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on November 08, 2021, 07:46:34 AM
this 8.38/5.8 combo is making me regret selling the hollow 6.1s

i ride an 8.5 comfortably...should i buy them again to try and recreate the feeling of added stability? im feeling itchy

sorry to do this to your wallet, but yes  8)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 08, 2021, 08:17:00 AM
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this 8.38/5.8 combo is making me regret selling the hollow 6.1s

i ride an 8.5 comfortably...should i buy them again to try and recreate the feeling of added stability? im feeling itchy
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sorry to do this to your wallet, but yes  8)

$30 at Zumiez.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66ytbpO065o
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 08, 2021, 10:36:17 AM
this 8.38/5.8 combo is making me regret selling the hollow 6.1s

i ride an 8.5 comfortably...should i buy them again to try and recreate the feeling of added stability? im feeling itchy

I’m all over the map, and have setups that are way too big, so take this ‘advice’ with a heaping mound of salt:

When I buy stuff in my range, I should just keep it, and possibly circle back, instead of getting rid of it and buying it again. What I mean by this is, I, for example, most likely skate best on 8” trucks, so I ride boards 7.75-8.25. I should just stay stocked on 8” trucks. I sprinkle in some 5.0s so I have those around as well.

Iirc, you are a taller person. Having a set of 5.8s and 6.1s isn’t too gnarly. I’ve got a gross amount of trucks. It’s not helpful to my skating. But….whatever.

To try and clean this up, what I’m trying to say, is identify (this is really more for popsicles) your .5” range for deck width, and then just run the truck that works best for that, whilst switching up the decks as you please. Easier for me to adjust to different boards than trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on November 08, 2021, 11:03:46 AM
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yeah, the difference is night and day. The barrel bottom still stops wheelbite but the overall turn is much looser like Ace or Indy. I was just wondering if someone does this regularly cuz I doubt the bottom bushings will last long if I keep running them like this

but shit anything for the surf
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because this increases the angle of your hanger from the baseplate it must shorten truck wb as well. changing the geometry like that could fuck up your pivot cups though...

i kind of want to try this with my aces...

Yeah I kinda assumed my pivot cups would be fucked if I run this long term, but honestly cant deal with breaking in new bushings in the winter like that. I cant turn at all and it fucks with all my tricks

I think ill run this untill spring and see if I can get some riptides cuz I wanna keep running these trucks even if the pivot cups are cooked

and bruh why do this with aces if they already have a short ass WB? when I had aces I loved how loose they got once they broke in but honestly hated them on mellow decks/short WB decks (should've just copped risers at the time instead of dealing with that)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on November 08, 2021, 02:44:05 PM
(https://imgur.com/ZWATEvml.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/eFDnHlBl.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/u9k1WL0l.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/aqUZOMbl.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/jaNkcg9l.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/o2sog8Ul.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/ptbH2tzl.jpg)

scored these from a local earlier this summer , basically traded some new indy's for them . 5.2 Low , and according to Venture (took it to DM like a man), sometime from the late 90's , guessing 95-97. I put in my old 5.2 low bushings, as well as bones bushing top washers.

really love the old Awake logo on there. super turny feeling on the trucks with no wheel bite , only 6 grams heavier on each truck than Hollow Light 5.2 lows I had.

patiently waiting for some new hollow axel TI ones, or at least some hollow light 5.2 lows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on November 08, 2021, 02:46:50 PM
Damn the hangar wasn't always so beefy. They honestly look better.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 08, 2021, 06:05:00 PM
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this 8.38/5.8 combo is making me regret selling the hollow 6.1s

i ride an 8.5 comfortably...should i buy them again to try and recreate the feeling of added stability? im feeling itchy
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When I buy stuff in my range, I should just keep it, and possibly circle back, instead of getting rid of it and buying it again. What I mean by this is, I, for example, most likely skate best on 8” trucks, so I ride boards 7.75-8.25. I should just stay stocked on 8” trucks. I sprinkle in some 5.0s so I have those around as well.


Unless it's Venture Titanium, then you should TOTALLY get rid of those, namely to pals on here.

But I echo what @ok says - kept my truck madness to 1 brand (Ventures) and gone between cast / forged / V-Hollow / TI, so good by Slap standards. If I'm feeling the madness creep in I only make my decision 30 minutes before I leave to skate, that way I'll know if the concern was legitimate or a bout of madness, like calling a coin toss mid air to determine your true desires.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on November 09, 2021, 01:35:04 PM
tried to put some 5.2 low hangers on some 5.2 hi hollow kingpin baseplates and just realizing the kingpin is a millimeter or two taller on the highs. pretty much makes it so the kingpin is sticking out above the hanger .

don't have any tools to try and shave down the kingpin , or else I'd give that a shot to keep these 5.2 low hangers going strong, the baseplates they were on are just destroyed to no return.

(https://imgur.com/D66Q7VXl.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/zkOkA3rl.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on November 10, 2021, 04:55:29 PM
are hi and lo bushings the same size? do supercush fit lows?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on November 10, 2021, 05:12:45 PM
are hi and lo bushings the same size? do supercush fit lows?

sure are and sure do
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: arrbee on November 11, 2021, 09:48:22 AM
Anyone looking for titanium's Orchard has them and they are on sale today, came to 72 shipped for me.

All their ventures are actually on sale not just Ti

Currently have
5.2
5.6
5.8

https://orchardshop.com/collections/trucks/venture
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on November 11, 2021, 10:02:48 AM
^good looks man!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on November 11, 2021, 10:31:10 AM
After having some delivery issues over the last few weeks, I finally got my V-Hollow 5.6's yesterday and gonna try them out tomorrow. Really curious about how they gonna fell.
The bushings felt fairly soft just by standing on it so hopefully the break in time is rather quick.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 11, 2021, 07:33:38 PM
Anyone looking for titanium's Orchard has them and they are on sale today, came to 72 shipped for me.

All their ventures are actually on sale not just Ti

Currently have
5.2
5.6
5.8

https://orchardshop.com/collections/trucks/venture

Good looking out, I think they shine at the 5.6/5.8 range if you want to get tech on bigger boards. 5.2 is plenty light as is.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 11, 2021, 07:36:37 PM
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Anyone looking for titanium's Orchard has them and they are on sale today, came to 72 shipped for me.

All their ventures are actually on sale not just Ti

Currently have
5.2
5.6
5.8

https://orchardshop.com/collections/trucks/venture

Good looking out, I think they shine at the 5.6/5.8 range if you want to get tech on bigger boards. 5.2 is plenty light as is.
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I’ve had setups that work, because of ideal dimensions and rare metals, but, if I’m in the range of what works for me, I don’t ‘need’ the light stuff.




or do i
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 11, 2021, 08:43:55 PM
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Anyone looking for titanium's Orchard has them and they are on sale today, came to 72 shipped for me.

All their ventures are actually on sale not just Ti

Currently have
5.2
5.6
5.8

https://orchardshop.com/collections/trucks/venture

Good looking out, I think they shine at the 5.6/5.8 range if you want to get tech on bigger boards. 5.2 is plenty light as is.
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I’ve had setups that work, because of ideal dimensions and rare metals, but, if I’m in the range of what works for me, I don’t ‘need’ the light stuff.




or do i

(https://c.tenor.com/IMkwAx-mvE0AAAAd/the-simpsons-marge-simpson.gif)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Taint Paint on November 11, 2021, 10:50:13 PM
Dang, I had some in cart and was browsing some other tings and they removed the sale.. bummed I missed out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on November 11, 2021, 11:22:40 PM
How does Kader not get wheelbite with 57-60mm classics on ventures? He doesn't seem to use risers either
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 11, 2021, 11:37:20 PM
How does Kader not get wheelbite with 57-60mm classics on ventures? He doesn't seem to use risers either
according to reynolds, he runs 1/8 risers in ventures. 8.5/5.8 combo as far as i remember
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on November 12, 2021, 10:46:33 AM
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How does Kader not get wheelbite with 57-60mm classics on ventures? He doesn't seem to use risers either
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according to reynolds, he runs 1/8 risers in ventures. 8.5/5.8 combo as far as i remember

fuck that ghost pop OH WAIT

this guy might have the smartest setup ever. The extremely shallow kicks of baker decks + height of wheels and ventures + extended WB of ventures probably give him a comfy mellow feeling but poppy setup
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: user18081971 on November 12, 2021, 01:40:00 PM
I feel as though if you’re light-weighted (weighing in at or under 70kg/160 lb) and have the stock bushings setup (loose, but not rattling) running big wheels with no risers works nicely on highs. Ace and venture have this in common in my experience.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 12, 2021, 07:00:51 PM
How does Kader not get wheelbite with 57-60mm classics on ventures? He doesn't seem to use risers either

It's why I Ride this truck.

I like 58s on 5.6s cast plates hollow hangers. Rarely get wheel bite. I use a flat washer and ride them loose as possible too. I only riser if forged plates

It's just the best truck around.

I think kader is riding something else now tho

Quote from: user18081971

link=topic=108614.msg3679912#msg3679912 date=1636753200
I feel as though if you’re light-weighted (weighing in at or under 70kg/160 lb) and have the stock bushings setup (loose, but not rattling) running big wheels with no risers works nicely on highs. Ace and venture have this in common in my experience.

I ride a riser with ace if I have over a 56mm wheel now. Before I didn't but I like my aces floppy loose
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on November 13, 2021, 02:15:33 AM
After having some delivery issues over the last few weeks, I finally got my V-Hollow 5.6's yesterday and gonna try them out tomorrow. Really curious about how they gonna fell.
The bushings felt fairly soft just by standing on it so hopefully the break in time is rather quick.

So yesterday was a really cold and shitty day to have a real sesh but I ended up pushing to my friends store after work just to try them out and I must say I am relieved as they do actually turn fine! I can see the slight “delay” in the turn, nothing dramatic, but those bushing are also brand new and it was like 0 degrees. I could still carve around and wasn’t tiktaking everywhere, at stock tightness. They felt fun but stable at the same time, which is good. Even my friends (all ride Indy) gave it a quick go and said they felt good!
I did just a quick bit of flatground in front of the store and also liked the pop feel (them being so light and lower probably helps, even with the extended w/b). Hopefully I can have an actual sesh this sunday and fully test them but for now I think I’m sold!!

(https://i.ibb.co/Pt1YR8z/4-F76056-D-E294-40-B8-A72-B-20-F5-C02-C0-B33.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 13, 2021, 07:06:31 AM
How does Kader not get wheelbite with 57-60mm classics on ventures? He doesn't seem to use risers either

I think it's been mentioned on here before but the wheel bite on a venture is more shallow....i get it pretty regularly, but I don't get pitched like I would on a set of thunders...at a certain point too, dude is prolly just good...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 13, 2021, 11:54:31 AM
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After having some delivery issues over the last few weeks, I finally got my V-Hollow 5.6's yesterday and gonna try them out tomorrow. Really curious about how they gonna fell.
The bushings felt fairly soft just by standing on it so hopefully the break in time is rather quick.
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So yesterday was a really cold and shitty day to have a real sesh but I ended up pushing to my friends store after work just to try them out and I must say I am relieved as they do actually turn fine! I can see the slight “delay” in the turn, nothing dramatic, but those bushing are also brand new and it was like 0 degrees. I could still carve around and wasn’t tiktaking everywhere, at stock tightness. They felt fun but stable at the same time, which is good. Even my friends (all ride Indy) gave it a quick go and said they felt good!
I did just a quick bit of flatground in front of the store and also liked the pop feel (them being so light and lower probably helps, even with the extended w/b). Hopefully I can have an actual sesh this sunday and fully test them but for now I think I’m sold!!

(https://i.ibb.co/Pt1YR8z/4-F76056-D-E294-40-B8-A72-B-20-F5-C02-C0-B33.jpg)
"ventures dont turn" is just anti-pop propaganda
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: STAH on November 13, 2021, 12:00:07 PM
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After having some delivery issues over the last few weeks, I finally got my V-Hollow 5.6's yesterday and gonna try them out tomorrow. Really curious about how they gonna fell.
The bushings felt fairly soft just by standing on it so hopefully the break in time is rather quick.
[close]

So yesterday was a really cold and shitty day to have a real sesh but I ended up pushing to my friends store after work just to try them out and I must say I am relieved as they do actually turn fine! I can see the slight “delay” in the turn, nothing dramatic, but those bushing are also brand new and it was like 0 degrees. I could still carve around and wasn’t tiktaking everywhere, at stock tightness. They felt fun but stable at the same time, which is good. Even my friends (all ride Indy) gave it a quick go and said they felt good!
I did just a quick bit of flatground in front of the store and also liked the pop feel (them being so light and lower probably helps, even with the extended w/b). Hopefully I can have an actual sesh this sunday and fully test them but for now I think I’m sold!!

(https://i.ibb.co/Pt1YR8z/4-F76056-D-E294-40-B8-A72-B-20-F5-C02-C0-B33.jpg)

I just picked up a pair of 5.8 Mike Anderson "ventura" trucks. Took em' out for a cruise (I live in Vancouver, its cold) and was pleasantly surprised. They turned great, felt like a more stable Indy. Took my Thunders out for a cruise the other day and I couldn't turn at all, bushings seized up from the cold. Still waiting on my Lurps though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Reed Richards on November 16, 2021, 04:00:45 PM
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So here it is.  I've heard for years previous that Ventures don't turn.  It was like the main stereotype attached to the brand for awhile.  In the last few years they've kind of exploded in popularity and are the truck of choice for many.  I've had them recommended to me over Thunders.  Did their turning improve (with stock bushings, let's say) or did the marketing just get better?
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Both, the low's didn't turn and they didn't make highs in wider sizes for a long time so not many people rode them. They expanded their line to include 5.6 and 6.1 around the time Bobby's video came out. People then realized the new trucks are completely different and have a different turn, but a turn that's just fine for the most part. They also switched from Street Corner to DLX and QC improved.
Gotcha.  One more thing, did the turning issue and DLX switch happen before or after they switched from purple to red bushings in lo's?  Someone is trying to sell me a pair and I want to make sure I get them from the right era.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on November 16, 2021, 04:51:07 PM
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So here it is.  I've heard for years previous that Ventures don't turn.  It was like the main stereotype attached to the brand for awhile.  In the last few years they've kind of exploded in popularity and are the truck of choice for many.  I've had them recommended to me over Thunders.  Did their turning improve (with stock bushings, let's say) or did the marketing just get better?
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Both, the low's didn't turn and they didn't make highs in wider sizes for a long time so not many people rode them. They expanded their line to include 5.6 and 6.1 around the time Bobby's video came out. People then realized the new trucks are completely different and have a different turn, but a turn that's just fine for the most part. They also switched from Street Corner to DLX and QC improved.
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Gotcha.  One more thing, did the turning issue and DLX switch happen before or after they switched from purple to red bushings in lo's?  Someone is trying to sell me a pair and I want to make sure I get them from the right era.


re: red bushings - i'm pretty sure yeah. but i'm gonna piggyback your question and say - did they start putting the sizes on ventures when DLX took over? my old pair of lo's (pre-dlx) do not, so i'm assuming yes?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fakie varial flip on November 16, 2021, 06:12:41 PM
If I'm coming from loose (just surfy, not rattling) Aces, and I'm going to run 56-60mm wheels (on some Matt Reason fanboy shit), is there a reason to get Venture 5.8s over Independent 149s? Those 30$ 5.8s look real tempting
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: user18081971 on November 16, 2021, 06:34:40 PM
Less wheelbite, different feeling grind.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 16, 2021, 06:40:20 PM
If I'm coming from loose (just surfy, not rattling) Aces, and I'm going to run 56-60mm wheels (on some Matt Reason fanboy shit), is there a reason to get Venture 5.8s over Independent 149s? Those 30$ 5.8s look real tempting

I like Venture more than Indy. So factor that in.

I get a better ollie with Venture.
Venture is cool, Indy is not.
My understanding is that the cheaper Ventures, the cast, are made in the USA at ermico in SF.
Indys are made elsewhere.
I like the stability of Ventures.
I do not like that I need to be a little more specific with bigger boards with Ventures (the effective wheelbase on Ventures is .25” greater than Indy, comparing cast models, and this causes some boards to feel/ride as though they were larger. When I stick to the size that works best for me, this is actually a bonus with Ventures, but on larger boards it exacerbates my big board problems).
Ventures have a harsher grind. I think the alloy in Indy might be different/better for grinding. The  Independent truck hanger is also more rounded, allowing for a smoother grind.
Ventures wear out faster. This does not bother me.
Ventures are lighter than Indy, again comparing 5.8s to 149s, cast to cast.
You might need to mess with Ventures a little bit more to get them to turn the way you want them too. Some popular mods are to remove the bottom washer, and to use a flat top washer. Of course doing this can smoke thru bushing faster.

Ace’s have a great turn, no doubt. I don’t really like the pop tho.
I have skated really well (for me) on 139s in the past, but….have always looked for something else. And with the skateboard politics, it’s easy for me to want to support dlx, instead of nhs. This is a personal thing for me, and isn’t something most people need to consider.

Can’t imagine the above will be helpful
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on November 16, 2021, 07:00:43 PM
I'm heavy and like loose trucks, so it's not a fun combo to deal with. I wheelbite on all trucks even with risers. But I will say Ventures definitely wheelbite worse than Ace's for me. Not Thunder level where I get tossed, but still pretty bad. I can't ride 5.8 casts without at least 1/8" risers and that's on 52mm wheels. I had to run 1/4" risers with 58mm wheels and hated looking down and seeing such a tall riser underneath my truck. It also took away the stability aspect of their geometry, being so high off the ground. I'd say if you're riding that big wheel wave, stick to Ace's with an 1/8" riser underneath and you'll have little to no wheelbite at all.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 16, 2021, 08:26:21 PM
What's the deal with DLX's Thunder Rebuild Kit / Super Cush bushings?

They list 95a as medium and 100a as hard. But isn't 90a medium, 95a hard and 100a super hard?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fakie varial flip on November 17, 2021, 09:05:04 AM
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If I'm coming from loose (just surfy, not rattling) Aces, and I'm going to run 56-60mm wheels (on some Matt Reason fanboy shit), is there a reason to get Venture 5.8s over Independent 149s? Those 30$ 5.8s look real tempting
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I like Venture more than Indy. So factor that in.

I get a better ollie with Venture.
Venture is cool, Indy is not.
My understanding is that the cheaper Ventures, the cast, are made in the USA at ermico in SF.
Indys are made elsewhere.
I like the stability of Ventures.
I do not like that I need to be a little more specific with bigger boards with Ventures (the effective wheelbase on Ventures is .25” greater than Indy, comparing cast models, and this causes some boards to feel/ride as though they were larger. When I stick to the size that works best for me, this is actually a bonus with Ventures, but on larger boards it exacerbates my big board problems).
Ventures have a harsher grind. I think the alloy in Indy might be different/better for grinding. The  Independent truck hanger is also more rounded, allowing for a smoother grind.
Ventures wear out faster. This does not bother me.
Ventures are lighter than Indy, again comparing 5.8s to 149s, cast to cast.
You might need to mess with Ventures a little bit more to get them to turn the way you want them too. Some popular mods are to remove the bottom washer, and to use a flat top washer. Of course doing this can smoke thru bushing faster.

Ace’s have a great turn, no doubt. I don’t really like the pop tho.
I have skated really well (for me) on 139s in the past, but….have always looked for something else. And with the skateboard politics, it’s easy for me to want to support dlx, instead of nhs. This is a personal thing for me, and isn’t something most people need to consider.

Can’t imagine the above will be helpful

So these are the two reasons I was considering ventures. I don't like that I have to get 14.3-14.5 wb boards on the aces, and I don't like that the pop feels kind of dead on my aces now. However, I do like really surfy trucks, so I'm trying to find a nice medium between big pop and surfy. I would even size down to 52-54mm (which is about what I'm riding now anyway, since I haven't changed wheels out in forever and I'm not skating any transition in the wet with my blown out pivot cup).

However -

I'm heavy and like loose trucks, so it's not a fun combo to deal with. I wheelbite on all trucks even with risers. But I will say Ventures definitely wheelbite worse than Ace's for me. Not Thunder level where I get tossed, but still pretty bad. I can't ride 5.8 casts without at least 1/8" risers and that's on 52mm wheels. I had to run 1/4" risers with 58mm wheels and hated looking down and seeing such a tall riser underneath my truck. It also took away the stability aspect of their geometry, being so high off the ground. I'd say if you're riding that big wheel wave, stick to Ace's with an 1/8" riser underneath and you'll have little to no wheelbite at all.

I fucking hate risers unless they're going on my cruiser board, so I might try indy instead. I'm not heavy per se but I am a weightlifter so I'm heavier than most skateboarders, at least; I've never gotten too bad of wheelbite except this one cruiser I had with 169s, risers, and the Heroin mutant shape (was really weird that combo wouldn't work, I still don't get it). I know indy won't really extend the wheelbase much for me, but at least they're taller which might help with pop. Fuck do ventures look way cooler though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 17, 2021, 02:53:06 PM
What's the deal with DLX's Thunder Rebuild Kit / Super Cush bushings?

They list 95a as medium and 100a as hard. But isn't 90a medium, 95a hard and 100a super hard?

Given some companies have been using their own version / numbers for certain things, including only having three bushing hardness options (soft, medium and hard) to now having over twice that many, it is a funny one.

Indy stock orange bushings used to be 94 duro once upon a time, with their soft red aftermarket bushings used to be 92 duro, as an example.  Medium orange was 94 and black hard was 96, those black ones being like rocks.

Thunder kit in 90 soft, 95 medium and 100 hard has been around for a long time too, maybe not as long as Indy, but the black hard were not half as hard as the Indy bushings.

Others like Supercush only had the number, never a name.

Now with many more people riding way looser trucks, the numbers have been going lower and lower, with the rating getting softer and softer, but some companies still have what they started with, eg DLX bushings.


Safe to say, some don't list the description beside the number, but others rely on both the word and number in descriptions, so it is similar to how wheel hardness varies with brand, so does bushing hardness with brand, the properties of some bushings being different to others with the same number or designation.


Sorry if that is a bit obscure - long day, late night and early mornings might not agree with me.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on November 21, 2021, 06:19:14 AM
Any one skate the Palace 8" with Venture low?

Thinking if getting one for my 5.2s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 21, 2021, 06:28:05 AM
I was just looking at the palace 7.75.
But no, I haven’t had a palace since an Olly Todd, very early in their USA availability.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on November 21, 2021, 07:22:09 AM
I was just looking at the palace 7.75.
But no, I haven’t had a palace since an Olly Todd, very early in their USA availability.

I've actually skated the 7.75 Olly Todd with Venture Lows. It's good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 21, 2021, 08:04:35 AM
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I was just looking at the palace 7.75.
But no, I haven’t had a palace since an Olly Todd, very early in their USA availability.
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I've actually skated the 7.75 Olly Todd with Venture Lows. It's good.

Yeah that’s what I rode mine with. At the time I was skating 5.2 venture lo’s with a riser. Idk. Worked tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on November 22, 2021, 07:14:17 AM
Just hit back axle on my so I’m starting to prepare setting up my new set. I can’t seem to find any 97a supercush bushings anywhere. I prefer those so if anyone has any leads let me know
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MaXX_I-D on November 22, 2021, 07:47:47 AM
Just hit back axle on my so I’m starting to prepare setting up my new set. I can’t seem to find any 97a supercush bushings anywhere. I prefer those so if anyone has any leads let me know
It says they’ve got one left.
https://garageskateshop.com/products/deluxe-supercush-bushings?variant=40041075671200 (https://garageskateshop.com/products/deluxe-supercush-bushings?variant=40041075671200)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on November 22, 2021, 08:21:01 AM
Just hit back axle on my so I’m starting to prepare setting up my new set. I can’t seem to find any 97a supercush bushings anywhere. I prefer those so if anyone has any leads let me know

No photo pfft
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on November 22, 2021, 09:16:05 AM
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Just hit back axle on my so I’m starting to prepare setting up my new set. I can’t seem to find any 97a supercush bushings anywhere. I prefer those so if anyone has any leads let me know
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No photo pfft
Barely hit it. I’ll post a photo when they get retired
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on November 22, 2021, 09:17:57 AM
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Just hit back axle on my so I’m starting to prepare setting up my new set. I can’t seem to find any 97a supercush bushings anywhere. I prefer those so if anyone has any leads let me know
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It says they’ve got one left.
https://garageskateshop.com/products/deluxe-supercush-bushings?variant=40041075671200 (https://garageskateshop.com/products/deluxe-supercush-bushings?variant=40041075671200)
Thanks, just copped
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 23, 2021, 04:17:03 AM
decided im going to ride 6.1s only, fits the boards i ride better and cleaned up my landings

looking to fund some 6.1 hollows with the trucks i no longer need. 5.6 & 5.8 hollows up in the classifieds if anyone is interested ;)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on November 23, 2021, 06:05:21 PM
Kader is back riding ventures in his recent clips...he was riding lurpivs the past couple months so figured he was leaving venture but guess not.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on November 23, 2021, 06:08:29 PM
Kader is back riding ventures in his recent clips...he was riding lurpivs the past couple months so figured he was leaving venture but guess not.
They always come back.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 23, 2021, 07:00:29 PM
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Kader is back riding ventures in his recent clips...he was riding lurpivs the past couple months so figured he was leaving venture but guess not.
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They always come back.

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/030/710/dd0.jpg)

Glances at Mini Logo trucks on my current setup
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on November 23, 2021, 07:26:00 PM
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Kader is back riding ventures in his recent clips...he was riding lurpivs the past couple months so figured he was leaving venture but guess not.
[close]
They always come back.
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Glances at Mini Logo trucks on my current setup
(https://c.tenor.com/ZlfljLZiyIkAAAAd/moe-the-simpsons.gif)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Reed Richards on November 23, 2021, 08:07:45 PM
Ok.  I'm eventually setting up a 7.5 mid-90s pinner and was told that 5.0 lo's were the best.  Which would anyone recommend for the first Ventures (they're all polished apparently): team edition, v-lights, or v-hollows?  I'm at the mercy of my local's inventory, but yeah.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on November 23, 2021, 08:14:17 PM
Ok.  I'm eventually setting up a 7.5 mid-90s pinner and was told that 5.0 lo's were the best.  Which would anyone recommend for the first Ventures (they're all polished apparently): team edition, v-lights, or v-hollows?  I'm at the mercy of my local's inventory, but yeah.
If you are coming off bigger setups I wouldn't go with hollows. There will be a huge weight difference just with the small deck and small trucks. For me the hollows make it too light.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 23, 2021, 08:48:00 PM
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Ok.  I'm eventually setting up a 7.5 mid-90s pinner and was told that 5.0 lo's were the best.  Which would anyone recommend for the first Ventures (they're all polished apparently): team edition, v-lights, or v-hollows?  I'm at the mercy of my local's inventory, but yeah.
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If you are coming off bigger setups I wouldn't go with hollows. There will be a huge weight difference just with the small deck and small trucks. For me the hollows make it too light.


Only because I’m annoying: regular 5.0 lo’s are surprisingly heavy. I’ve never skated the hollows/lights, as I don’t like the way they feel, underfoot, rolling/and especially grinding. And as was noted above, more weight isn’t as much of a concern on a smaller setup.

TL:DR  I’d just get the cast ones (teams).

Congratulations on getting a smaller setup. 

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on November 24, 2021, 07:32:19 AM
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Kader is back riding ventures in his recent clips...he was riding lurpivs the past couple months so figured he was leaving venture but guess not.
[close]
They always come back.
[close]

(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/030/710/dd0.jpg)

Glances at Mini Logo trucks on my current setup
Lol too accurate
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: disappointed on November 24, 2021, 07:45:18 AM
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Ok.  I'm eventually setting up a 7.5 mid-90s pinner and was told that 5.0 lo's were the best.  Which would anyone recommend for the first Ventures (they're all polished apparently): team edition, v-lights, or v-hollows?  I'm at the mercy of my local's inventory, but yeah.
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If you are coming off bigger setups I wouldn't go with hollows. There will be a huge weight difference just with the small deck and small trucks. For me the hollows make it too light.
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Only because I’m annoying: regular 5.0 lo’s are surprisingly heavy. I’ve never skated the hollows/lights, as I don’t like the way they feel, underfoot, rolling/and especially grinding. And as was noted above, more weight isn’t as much of a concern on a smaller setup.

TL:DR  I’d just get the cast ones (teams).

Congratulations on getting a smaller setup.

Maybe split the difference and go with V-Lights. I’m skating Hollows 5.0 hi’s, they’re fun but possibly too light, not enough resistance. Interestingly, Venture Lo’s and ever so slightly heavier than hi’s. Ok is definitely right, reg 5.0 lo’s are kinda little bricks - but might work for you.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on November 24, 2021, 07:58:59 AM
One thing with the hollow/light lows: they're even lower than regular lows, like 47mm. So keep that in mind depending on your wheel selection.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 24, 2021, 08:25:02 AM
One thing with the hollow/light lows: they're even lower than regular lows, like 47mm. So keep that in mind depending on your wheel selection.

51mm is the right answer, think of that beautiful pinch.

Putting risers on Ventures seems criminal.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on November 24, 2021, 09:35:57 AM
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One thing with the hollow/light lows: they're even lower than regular lows, like 47mm. So keep that in mind depending on your wheel selection.
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51mm is the right answer, think of that beautiful pinch.

Putting risers on Ventures seems criminal.

I used to run a 1/8" shock pad with my venture lows back in the late 90s. I know that was/is taboo but I always felt like it made up for my running lows and 50s on shitty east coast ground.

Also, if you do want risers on Ventures, Diamond fit perfectly.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goingapelikenigo on November 25, 2021, 04:44:40 AM
just ordered a pair of 5.6 hollows since i've been grinding on axle with my indys for a while now and the hollows were on sale for 40$ !!! i'm stoked  ;D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: zozu on November 25, 2021, 10:38:24 PM
Kader is back riding ventures in his recent clips...he was riding lurpivs the past couple months so figured he was leaving venture but guess not.

still on Pivs in the newest fat bill insta post
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ned Providence on December 01, 2021, 10:51:05 AM
I found some 90's baseplates in my toolbox that must've been from high school, decided to try out the Krux DLK and slapped some 6.1 hangers on there. Once I'm healed from my back injury, it's on! The kingpin swap was so easy, just like putting in a grindking in back in the day.

(https://i.imgur.com/vUIWEtC.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/ZWGWzV2.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: STAH on December 01, 2021, 11:02:15 AM
I found some 90's baseplates in my toolbox that must've been from high school, decided to try out the Krux DLK and slapped some 6.1 hangers on there. Once I'm healed from my back injury, it's on! The kingpin swap was so easy, just like putting in a grindking in back in the day.

(https://i.imgur.com/vUIWEtC.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/ZWGWzV2.jpg)


That kingpin clearance is insane!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ned Providence on December 01, 2021, 11:09:31 AM
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I found some 90's baseplates in my toolbox that must've been from high school, decided to try out the Krux DLK and slapped some 6.1 hangers on there. Once I'm healed from my back injury, it's on! The kingpin swap was so easy, just like putting in a grindking in back in the day.

(https://i.imgur.com/vUIWEtC.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/ZWGWzV2.jpg)
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That kingpin clearance is insane!

Right? it's nuts I hope they turn ok, I'll know in about a month.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 01, 2021, 12:27:57 PM
how did it affect the wheelbase? im curious
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ned Providence on December 01, 2021, 02:57:58 PM
how did it affect the wheelbase? im curious

I'm not sure yet; I'll report back after setting it up this weekend and measuring the difference.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: augustmoon on December 01, 2021, 06:55:40 PM
Anyone know offhand how high the 5.6 and 5.2 his are?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bunk Moreland on December 01, 2021, 06:59:25 PM
Think everything except the lows are 53.5.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: augustmoon on December 01, 2021, 07:06:30 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 01, 2021, 09:01:06 PM
I can't skate ice cold ventures. I feel like I'm going to die. I was trying to dork around get a little clip in downtown Salem and I ate shit twice in a row doing nothing.
When they freeze they just shimmy. Ace never stop turning in the winter. It's the only truck that works for me rn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on December 01, 2021, 11:58:37 PM
Anyone know offhand how high the 5.6 and 5.2 his are?

The V-lights/hollow/titanium are 52mm. They have a thinner forged baseplate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 02, 2021, 01:41:51 AM
I can't skate ice cold ventures. I feel like I'm going to die. I was trying to dork around get a little clip in downtown Salem and I ate shit twice in a row doing nothing.
When they freeze they just shimmy. Ace never stop turning in the winter. It's the only truck that works for me rn.
stock bushings? indy supersofts work well for me in the winter
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on December 02, 2021, 07:08:41 AM
So Venture folks, question:

A month or so ago, I had some Amazon credit and got some 5.8s from TGM's storefront. I was initially kind of nervous because people had mentioned TGM selling counterfeit Swiss and F4s, but these showed up and look legit. I've skated them a few times, and they're the stickiest trucks I've ever ridden in my life. My regular spot is a lacquered and waxed curb that is super smooth, but these are pitching me over and over. I've skated Ventures on the same curbs before, and don't remember ever having this issue.

Any chance they're fakes, or do me and these trucks really hate each other that much?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on December 02, 2021, 07:24:56 AM
Ventures feel really hard.....like old Aces super soft....grind like crazy....ventures are the opposite of that...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 02, 2021, 07:31:23 AM
Ventures, from the v beginning, we’re the cheaper truck, no?
I’ve heard some grumbling that the metal is a cheaper mix, but I don’t know anything about any of that.
My experience is that they need to be ground down some to break in, and then start to get better, but never Indy good, as far as grind feel goes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: baustin on December 02, 2021, 08:08:33 AM
I don’t think it’s the metal, but rather the way the hangar is shaped with sharper angles. Ventures def grind harder and you’ll notice it if you’re coming from more round shaped trucks like Indy or Ace. I do agree it gets easier to push through grinds as you break em in. It could be pseudoscience but I theorize the angular shape of the hanger makes for better lock ins on some grinds, so just get your Indy riding friends to break the ledge in for you and reap the benefits…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on December 02, 2021, 09:29:03 AM
Thanks for the responses, folks.

Anyone able to ID what size Ventures Gino is skating in this pic? That board came in 8.38" and 8" if that helps.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW3lZ7GlEQB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CW3lZ7GlEQB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on December 02, 2021, 09:33:56 AM
It's been noted elsewhere that he rides 5.0s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on December 02, 2021, 09:39:25 AM
It's been noted elsewhere that he rides 5.0s.

IDK, even if that is an 8" those look too wide to be 5.0s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 02, 2021, 09:48:21 AM
5.2 highs most likely on an 8”, based on the axles
have no reason to assume gino would ride an 8.38
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 02, 2021, 06:29:30 PM
Thanks for the responses, folks.

Anyone able to ID what size Ventures Gino is skating in this pic? That board came in 8.38" and 8" if that helps.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW3lZ7GlEQB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/p/CW3lZ7GlEQB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)


Incredibly relevant to my interests!
I’m not sure where I got this ‘info’, but I thought Gino always skated a 7.9 ish board, 5.2 lo’s, 52 mm ish wheels. I’m really not sure if that’s correct tho.
When Guy posted that, imo, phenomenal ig post, several years back, of Gino skating in super sunny California, it looked like he was skating a slightly wider than 8” fa shaped board, huge nose.
The clips for that Poets Bruin (the one some jerk very funnily called ‘Gino’s my war’), it looked like he was skating 5.2 (could have been larger, I have the hardest time judging scale of trucks) HI’s, with a forged plate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on December 03, 2021, 11:02:48 AM
idk if this is the right spot for this q but the venture doom stuff (lucien clarke) hasn't hit shops yet, yeah?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on December 03, 2021, 02:26:13 PM
idk if this is the right spot for this q but the venture doom stuff (lucien clarke) hasn't hit shops yet, yeah?

What's this ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: user18081971 on December 03, 2021, 02:53:43 PM
venture doom
(https://i.imgflip.com/3gwevf.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MaXX_I-D on December 03, 2021, 03:44:54 PM
It’s his name in the doom logo font.
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/fall21/02-ve-fl21-d2-lucien.jpg)
I haven’t seen them anywhere except their website.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on December 03, 2021, 05:03:29 PM
and also (more importantly)
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/fall21/06-ve-fl21-d2-apparel.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 03, 2021, 05:15:35 PM
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It's been noted elsewhere that he rides 5.0s.
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IDK, even if that is an 8" those look too wide to be 5.0s

Never seen him on 5.0s
If you go back to the greatest 411 segment of all times, ‘Roomies’, Gino’s board looks wider, as does his trucks. I’m pretty sure he’s also skating af1 mids. Fuck. &#38;#129397;. So good.
The angles that skate footage/photos are captured by, really makes it hard to tell how big setups are, imo. I’m guessing Gino is 5’10 ish, probably a 10 ish shoe, so imma guess that he’s on about an 8”, 8” trucks.
I don’t know what I’m talking about.
The yung goat yuto looks like he skated 5.2 lo’s as well.
Shit post sorry ya’ll
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on December 03, 2021, 05:24:54 PM
Gino is on 5.2 his in that picture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on December 04, 2021, 12:38:52 AM
and also (more importantly)
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/fall21/06-ve-fl21-d2-apparel.jpg)

What the hell. I need this. I've been glued to Eternal for the past year.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on December 04, 2021, 02:10:44 AM
Just set up a new set of TI’s. Going to give them a spin. Last set I ran on cast plates this time around I’m going to keep the forged on for a while to see how I feel about them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Cthulhu! on December 04, 2021, 07:35:37 AM
I'm going to need about 600 of those Doom stickers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on December 04, 2021, 07:51:41 AM
Just set up a new set of TI’s. Going to give them a spin. Last set I ran on cast plates this time around I’m going to keep the forged on for a while to see how I feel about them

I frown on forged plates but didn't mind this set up....my 5.6's are a little lower which I liked.  Gonna switch to cast and a krux down lo I think at some point.....when I figure things out. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on December 04, 2021, 09:07:31 AM
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Just set up a new set of TI’s. Going to give them a spin. Last set I ran on cast plates this time around I’m going to keep the forged on for a while to see how I feel about them
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I frown on forged plates but didn't mind this set up....my 5.6's are a little lower which I liked.  Gonna switch to cast and a krux down lo I think at some point.....when I figure things out.
I’m optimistic but I kept my old trucks in my trunk just Incase haha.
Also threw supercush bushing in and riptide cups because why not
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 04, 2021, 09:26:57 AM
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I can't skate ice cold ventures. I feel like I'm going to die. I was trying to dork around get a little clip in downtown Salem and I ate shit twice in a row doing nothing.
When they freeze they just shimmy. Ace never stop turning in the winter. It's the only truck that works for me rn.
[close]
stock bushings? indy supersofts work well for me in the winter

Yeah I got the white Indys in now but it only buys me like 45 mins extra time before I'm tensor tight. I could put a bones up top but I'm trying really hard not to be buying extra plastic crap.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on December 04, 2021, 11:53:26 AM
6.1s are $9 in Zumiez if you need some and hate your local.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: user18081971 on December 04, 2021, 01:48:07 PM
6.1s are $9 in Zumiez if you need some and hate your local.
I hate one of my locals so the $15 151's are more appropriate for me I think.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on December 05, 2021, 06:58:29 AM
@ok @Seventyfuhkinseven thank you. Fun fact: Gino is a size 11 and Guy is an 11.5. Big feet club. Have carried those facts with me since back in the day.

Going to go buy some 5.2 hollows, BRB.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on December 06, 2021, 08:35:50 AM
6.1s are $9 in Zumiez if you need some and hate your local.

i actually just bought these for no reason at all... i have like 3 diff sets of 5.8s, and i skate ti 159s on my cruiser.   so thanks alot for your post!  hahaha couldnt pass up that deal tho
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 06, 2021, 09:01:48 AM
@ok @Seventyfuhkinseven thank you. Fun fact: Gino is a size 11 and Guy is an 11.5. Big feet club. Have carried those facts with me since back in the day.

Going to go buy some 5.2 hollows, BRB.

Whoa. 11.5 on the 7.5 (mouse days)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on December 07, 2021, 07:11:44 AM
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6.1s are $9 in Zumiez if you need some and hate your local.
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i actually just bought these for no reason at all... i have like 3 diff sets of 5.8s, and i skate ti 159s on my cruiser.   so thanks alot for your post!  hahaha couldnt pass up that deal tho

damn, i chose free shipping and these are already out for delivery today!  shout out to Zumiez i guess????
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thanksgiving on December 07, 2021, 09:51:25 AM
idk if this is the right spot for this q but the venture doom stuff (lucien clarke) hasn't hit shops yet, yeah?
it’s available on the supra b2b up in canada so i would expect them to be popping up very soon
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on December 07, 2021, 10:38:37 AM
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idk if this is the right spot for this q but the venture doom stuff (lucien clarke) hasn't hit shops yet, yeah?
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it’s available on the supra b2b up in canada so i would expect them to be popping up very soon

good lookin' out, thank you!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: AlumarX on December 07, 2021, 01:53:00 PM
I've only been skating for 2 years but after getting some 5.6s I actually feel like I've been progressing lately. Being off the board for 5-6 months due to ankle injuries hasn't helped and had to relearn some basics, but I feel a lot more consistent now on Ventures. I might be a lifer.
The turn is pretty funky but I can deal with it. I kinda like that it's forcing me to get used to carrying more speed to slash curbs.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: toe_knee on December 07, 2021, 01:53:36 PM
So I’m kinda leaning into buying a better pair of ventures for Christmas, my current pair gotten to the axel and they have started to flake metal shards, I know I definitely want the hollows but what’s the difference between a titanium hanger and a regular forged one? I skate mostly ledges and stuff so I don’t want to affect how my trucks grind but some excess weight cut could be good, is titanium gonna affect anything?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on December 07, 2021, 02:21:24 PM
So I’m kinda leaning into buying a better pair of ventures for Christmas, my current pair gotten to the axel and they have started to flake metal shards, I know I definitely want the hollows but what’s the difference between a titanium hanger and a regular forged one? I skate mostly ledges and stuff so I don’t want to affect how my trucks grind but some excess weight cut could be good, is titanium gonna affect anything?

It's just the axle, not the hangar (forged plate + ti axle for the titanium or forged plate + hollow steel for the hollows). You shouldn't feel a difference in the grind.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on December 07, 2021, 05:46:34 PM
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So I’m kinda leaning into buying a better pair of ventures for Christmas, my current pair gotten to the axel and they have started to flake metal shards, I know I definitely want the hollows but what’s the difference between a titanium hanger and a regular forged one? I skate mostly ledges and stuff so I don’t want to affect how my trucks grind but some excess weight cut could be good, is titanium gonna affect anything?
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It's just the axle, not the hangar (forged plate + ti axle for the titanium or forged plate + hollow steel for the hollows). You shouldn't feel a difference in the grind.

No impact to the grind, more on the wheelbase and height with the cast (+3.25") and forged (+3.5", -1.5mm). If you can afford it go for the titanium, but the V-Hollows are a solid choice. Venture Titanium isn't as stupidly light as Tensor Maglight / Thunder Titanium, worth the $20 additional if you want to treat yourself.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on December 07, 2021, 09:58:08 PM
Are the venture team lows 1mm higher than the regular venture lows? How about WB? IIRC, thunder team trucks bring in the WB ever so slightly compared to the regular raws.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on December 07, 2021, 10:40:43 PM
Are the venture team lows 1mm higher than the regular venture lows? How about WB? IIRC, thunder team trucks bring in the WB ever so slightly compared to the regular raws.

Tactics used to be my go-to for truck measurement but I think their numbers are off:
https://www.tactics.com/venture/polished-skateboard-trucks/polished-52-lo

5.2 Std Lo - 48.3mm (according to Tactics), +3.25" WB so similar to a Thunder Light / Hollow (not Team Hollow)
5.2 V-Hollow Lo - 48.3mm (according to Ben Degros' video, but I think they are 1.5mm lower because forged), +3.4 - 3.5" WB so in a class of their own in terms of pushing out the wheels.

I'm not sure anymore, probably Tactics hasn't updated their listings. The Venture website isn't help with specs either.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on December 07, 2021, 11:37:37 PM
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Tactics used to be my go-to for truck measurement but I think their numbers are off:
https://www.tactics.com/venture/polished-skateboard-trucks/polished-52-lo

5.2 Std Lo - 48.3mm (according to Tactics), +3.25" WB so similar to a Thunder Light / Hollow (not Team Hollow)
5.2 V-Hollow Lo - 48.3mm (according to Ben Degros' video, but I think they are 1.5mm lower because forged), +3.4 - 3.5" WB so in a class of their own in terms of pushing out the wheels.

I'm not sure anymore, probably Tactics hasn't updated their listings. The Venture website isn't help with specs either.

Thanks! I was actually referring to the team editions, not hollows

https://www.tactics.com/venture/mike-anderson-ventura-pro-team-edition-skateboard-trucks/polished-52-lo

Only asking since it looks like Thunder team editions are 1mm taller than standard and based on the WB thread, the thunder team editions don't push out the WB as much as the standards do.

https://www.thundertrucks.com/truck-styles/

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bbk on December 08, 2021, 12:55:47 AM
Team are not 1 mm higher than standard, team is standard, and is one mm higher than forged plates/lights.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: STAH on December 08, 2021, 10:37:42 AM
Are the venture team lows 1mm higher than the regular venture lows? How about WB? IIRC, thunder team trucks bring in the WB ever so slightly compared to the regular raws.

how? Removing material off the baseplate in the forged versions only makes the truck lower. I don't see how that would change wheelbase.
   
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on December 08, 2021, 11:01:03 AM
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how? Removing material off the baseplate in the forged versions only makes the truck lower. I don't see how that would change wheelbase.
   

See below. Most truck brands do a similar thing with forged vs cast plates and there is a few mm wheelbase difference.

the kingpin is at the same angle but a couple of more MM foward. The baseplate as a whole is more foward. I cruise more comfortable with the forged. Manuel better with the standard.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y06J2nvX/20190613-110105.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xNdstPyH)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on December 08, 2021, 11:07:30 AM
Team are not 1 mm higher than standard, team is standard, and is one mm higher than forged plates/lights.

cool thanks for confirming!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: STAH on December 08, 2021, 05:00:49 PM
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how? Removing material off the baseplate in the forged versions only makes the truck lower. I don't see how that would change wheelbase.
   
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See below. Most truck brands do a similar thing with forged vs cast plates and there is a few mm wheelbase difference.

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the kingpin is at the same angle but a couple of more MM foward. The baseplate as a whole is more foward. I cruise more comfortable with the forged. Manuel better with the standard.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y06J2nvX/20190613-110105.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xNdstPyH)
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Oh that's actually quite interesting. I had no idea. Thanks for the photo reference. I just tested this out with some Indy standards against some Indy titaniums (forged baseplate) and they were exactly the same. Perhaps its just a deluxe thing.
 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrozenIndustries on December 09, 2021, 06:47:26 AM
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Are the venture team lows 1mm higher than the regular venture lows? How about WB? IIRC, thunder team trucks bring in the WB ever so slightly compared to the regular raws.
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how? Removing material off the baseplate in the forged versions only makes the truck lower. I don't see how that would change wheelbase.
   
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See below. Most truck brands do a similar thing with forged vs cast plates and there is a few mm wheelbase difference.

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the kingpin is at the same angle but a couple of more MM foward. The baseplate as a whole is more foward. I cruise more comfortable with the forged. Manuel better with the standard.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y06J2nvX/20190613-110105.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xNdstPyH)
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Oh that's actually quite interesting. I had no idea. Thanks for the photo reference. I just tested this out with some Indy standards against some Indy titaniums (forged baseplate) and they were exactly the same. Perhaps its just a deluxe thing.

I always understood it was to keep the pop feel as similar as possible. Since it is going to be a few mm low, to balance that out the axle sits back a few mm. Trying to keep the product consistent I guess?

Others have mentioned it but it would be cool if someone did it but kept the axle in the same place to make it feel even lighter.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on December 11, 2021, 04:59:41 PM
anyone get a pair of ventures within the past year with no sizing on the truck and just 2 little nubs/dots where the numbers would be? i'm sitting on a pair and it's got me curious
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: antarctica on December 11, 2021, 09:26:52 PM
anyone get a pair of ventures within the past year with no sizing on the truck and just 2 little nubs/dots where the numbers would be? i'm sitting on a pair and it's got me curious
Was curious about my two pairs after you said this so I went and checked and my pair of 5.8 standards that I bought around two years ago have those two little nubs you were talking about, however my pair of 5.6 vlights that I bought around 6 months ago have 5.6H marked on em lol. Wonder whats the reasoning behind that
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on December 12, 2021, 05:14:36 AM
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anyone get a pair of ventures within the past year with no sizing on the truck and just 2 little nubs/dots where the numbers would be? i'm sitting on a pair and it's got me curious
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Was curious about my two pairs after you said this so I went and checked and my pair of 5.8 standards that I bought around two years ago have those two little nubs you were talking about, however my pair of 5.6 vlights that I bought around 6 months ago have 5.6H marked on em lol. Wonder whats the reasoning behind that
Maybe the standards have the nubs and the v lights or hollows have the size? I have 2 pairs of standards from the past 3 years that have the nubs but I have a pair of 5.0 v hollows from like 6 years ago that have the size stamped on them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: toe_knee on December 12, 2021, 06:09:43 AM
Just got the titanium’s…. Light as fuck bois, thanks for the recommendation, no difference except my setup is light as hell
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on December 12, 2021, 08:32:17 AM
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anyone get a pair of ventures within the past year with no sizing on the truck and just 2 little nubs/dots where the numbers would be? i'm sitting on a pair and it's got me curious
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Was curious about my two pairs after you said this so I went and checked and my pair of 5.8 standards that I bought around two years ago have those two little nubs you were talking about, however my pair of 5.6 vlights that I bought around 6 months ago have 5.6H marked on em lol. Wonder whats the reasoning behind that
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Maybe the standards have the nubs and the v lights or hollows have the size? I have 2 pairs of standards from the past 3 years that have the nubs but I have a pair of 5.0 v hollows from like 6 years ago that have the size stamped on them.

i think we solved the mystery! mine with the nubs were definitely a pair of standards, so thanks for narrowing that down as i was just holding hangers in my hand and didn't even consider the vlight factor lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bunk Moreland on December 12, 2021, 09:21:49 AM
Can someone post a picture of said nubs? I’ve been on ventures for 30 years and I don’t know what you’re talking about.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 12, 2021, 09:28:05 AM
Can someone post a picture of said nubs? I’ve been on ventures for 30 years and I don’t know what you’re talking about.

Same.


What’s your favorite venture? Past or present?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on December 12, 2021, 09:39:04 AM
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anyone get a pair of ventures within the past year with no sizing on the truck and just 2 little nubs/dots where the numbers would be? i'm sitting on a pair and it's got me curious
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Was curious about my two pairs after you said this so I went and checked and my pair of 5.8 standards that I bought around two years ago have those two little nubs you were talking about, however my pair of 5.6 vlights that I bought around 6 months ago have 5.6H marked on em lol. Wonder whats the reasoning behind that
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Maybe the standards have the nubs and the v lights or hollows have the size? I have 2 pairs of standards from the past 3 years that have the nubs but I have a pair of 5.0 v hollows from like 6 years ago that have the size stamped on them.
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i think we solved the mystery! mine with the nubs were definitely a pair of standards, so thanks for narrowing that down as i was just holding hangers in my hand and didn't even consider the vlight factor lol
I got standards and mines say “5.8H” I believe. Got them last year.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bunk Moreland on December 12, 2021, 10:43:10 AM
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Can someone post a picture of said nubs? I’ve been on ventures for 30 years and I don’t know what you’re talking about.
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Same.


What’s your favorite venture? Past or present?
the 5.2 lows. I didn’t even think about trucks until recently; it was always the same, 3 threads showing each side, whatever ventures from the shop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 12, 2021, 11:01:18 AM
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Can someone post a picture of said nubs? I’ve been on ventures for 30 years and I don’t know what you’re talking about.
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Same.


What’s your favorite venture? Past or present?
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the 5.2 lows. I didn’t even think about trucks until recently; it was always the same, 3 threads showing each side, whatever ventures from the shop.

Same.
Thank you.
I’m trying to find the wide 52s to give more terrain options.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on December 12, 2021, 01:40:40 PM
Can someone post a picture of said nubs? I’ve been on ventures for 30 years and I don’t know what you’re talking about.
i come bearing nubs

(https://i.ibb.co/Qd9n8t0/vnubs.png)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on December 12, 2021, 05:07:00 PM
my 2021 standards have 5.8H no nubs
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 16, 2021, 10:01:31 AM
holiday drop 2021 (carl pro in bunnyhop?)
(https://i.ibb.co/Pjd89dR/7-A87-C2-DB-40-BC-44-AA-9059-EA05-E72-DE4-C5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1Qkxdk3)
(https://i.ibb.co/M2gFDwv/40-A25-E00-BB0-F-469-B-8-B67-3-ECD38-D51-E45.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cgy4cfB)
(https://i.ibb.co/Xs1Fnbr/81-E9-C3-B0-86-D5-41-DB-9898-82-AA1-D4015-D3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MVrPzsx)
(https://i.ibb.co/rGpGS2X/703242-BE-F808-43-F8-8143-6-BDCBD1-DCF6-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N6N6P2G)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on December 16, 2021, 12:46:47 PM
corduroy snap is kinda gas
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on December 16, 2021, 04:11:19 PM
i want a raw 5.8/6.1 with green bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MaXX_I-D on December 16, 2021, 05:59:58 PM
holiday drop 2021 (carl pro in bunnyhop?)
(https://i.ibb.co/Pjd89dR/7-A87-C2-DB-40-BC-44-AA-9059-EA05-E72-DE4-C5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1Qkxdk3)
(https://i.ibb.co/M2gFDwv/40-A25-E00-BB0-F-469-B-8-B67-3-ECD38-D51-E45.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cgy4cfB)
(https://i.ibb.co/Xs1Fnbr/81-E9-C3-B0-86-D5-41-DB-9898-82-AA1-D4015-D3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/MVrPzsx)
(https://i.ibb.co/rGpGS2X/703242-BE-F808-43-F8-8143-6-BDCBD1-DCF6-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N6N6P2G)
I’m not really feeling the trucks but I might pick up a pair to support.

What’s a 5.8? Widest I have is a 8.38 and am thinking of setting it up as a cruiser.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 16, 2021, 06:12:22 PM
8.5 axles on the 5.8
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MaXX_I-D on December 16, 2021, 07:31:30 PM
8.5 axles on the 5.8
Thanks hommie.
Might just wait for his board after the chocolate video (I might quit skating if he doesn’t get turned pro).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Getgreens on December 19, 2021, 04:55:13 PM
I usually ride stage X 159s with 94a bototm 92a top conical indy bushings on 8.38 flat 14.5 wb with the longer nose/tail ratios than 7''/6.5". Krooked/bakers.

So i saw this 8.38x32.75 habitat marius nasa deck a while back and got/stashed it. Then i paired it with 6.1 kaders which needed a bushing swap day 1 bc of wheel bite on my older 52mm 99a SFW spitfires from when i first started riding 159s on 8.38. Got risers with bones hards just flat top bushing only. Board feels like hell its like the "challange" board in my quiver. Sure it blasts ollies and epic half cabs and switch ollies in transition. Its a mother to flip on flat, but still really fun to flip on tranny and steep bank walls.

The 8.75 axle translation Is a bit hard to compare with that epic sled of an 8.38 i call it the cadillac car. As ill be putting the indys onto it to gain some "familiarity" To run ventures on an 8.38x32 baker with concave. I normally ride flat bakers and krookeds but i havent this past year. I rode two 8.8 shapeds instead. With the indys and tried out the ventures on that  32.75 sled. Chipped it to hell on QP's on bs and fs flips.

The 6.1 standards ride well on the 8.8 shaped now that ive finally swapped the indys i got a 2nd pair with yellow bushings. They turn really good and i even got 56mm conicals and the nut is flush on the kingpin and so far no wheelbite w/o risers im guessing its bc of the shape of the deck.

Im going to hunt down an 8.38 flat with a big non rounded/pointy nose/tail. To run the 6.1 kaders on to really see how they feel vs my indys. Im guessing if i really want to like ventures on the normal shape i ride/flip. Im going to have to run 5.8s vs 159 indys which i can still run at 8.75 on 8.38 decks. Or go for a shorter 14.25" wb. Its those aspects as well as the 8.38 ishod twin tail. to test out before i know i can run ventures for life. Then theres the titanium 5.8s or potentially a titanium 6.1. That really pushes the bar for me.

Indys for me are the gold standard for carving/pool riding and generally riding fast as hell. Especially with my conical bushing setup.

Ventures are also a gold standard to me i learned my first ollies and boned bs 180s on venture 5.0s on a 7.63 way back.
To me nothing beats how ventures feel generally for olllies/halfcabs/bs180s/bs airs/bigspins.
Both hangers have their advantages indy last longer/grind longer etc for pool/crete coping and slappys etc
ventures imo have a larger/wider grinding surface on the hanger once their grinded down which leads to easy flip-in/flip out/pop from grinds. and Lock ins. So it really depends on the type of skating i feel like doing that day or how injured i am and how hindered that session is going to be. For me at least. Ill probably run the 6.1 kaders on a 8.38 ishod twin tail, and if i like the deck as much as i think im going to like the trucks for real street skating. Then ill prob stick with that shape and try 5.8 titaniums as my standard park/street setup. Just how they blast ollies and half cabs has me wanting to main 6.1 ventures if not try lighter ones on the 8.8-9.25 shaped pool/park/slappy slasher as well.

As much as i love indys i have to think of their negatives so i dont feel like im cheating in a relationship
the made in china vs made in us
55mm stage XI vs 53mm stage x/9
barrel bushing even though i have to change the kader 6.1 bushings day 1 too.
They stopped selling conical bushings in like 2017 for a window and just recently brought them back....i only like the stage 9/stage x feel....so i must run indy conicals....or spend 10$ damn near a month on bones bushings. Which made me want to buy aces over indy period....only they dont make 8.75 axle....

then manderson kader and worrest jumped ships and are walking ads for venture...then i saw yutos part and thats when i got my 2nd pair of 6.1s XD. TBH i like the 6.1s on my 8.8 more than the 159s and the 6.1 standards on that 8.8 are running stock bushings haha for that venture scored major points. First toss and jump on the board and first try slappy on red curb. Passing grade in my book...with the epic bs air pop to match. Now i just gotta run my Indy conical bushing combo so when land on bs airs and transfers i can blast/pump and hit wall to wall as fast/hard as i do with indys its the one thing indy takes the crown for me at least.

Ventures also have that added bonus of being able to run those REAL wooden risers that are made for ventures which is pretty cool i just got a couple, one for the cadillac, and just in case the 56s start wheelbiting after the 6.1s break in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 19, 2021, 05:53:24 PM
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Can someone post a picture of said nubs? I’ve been on ventures for 30 years and I don’t know what you’re talking about.
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i come bearing nubs

(https://i.ibb.co/Qd9n8t0/vnubs.png)

I've not seen that
All mine are size marked I've had a few different models
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Jonny7.5Alive on December 20, 2021, 02:05:07 AM
I find it much harder to tre flip on lows. Everything else is much easier though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on December 20, 2021, 05:54:19 AM
Landing primo a ton lately, any tips for axle slip?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 20, 2021, 06:20:52 AM
I find it much harder to tre flip on lows. Everything else is much easier though.

In general, with ventures, I move my popping foot closer to the tip of the tail, less in the pocket. I still try and use a scooping motion, putting pressure on the edge of the tail. That’s what (sometimes, allegedly) ‘works’ for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on December 20, 2021, 07:57:20 AM
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Can someone post a picture of said nubs? I’ve been on ventures for 30 years and I don’t know what you’re talking about.
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i come bearing nubs

(https://i.ibb.co/Qd9n8t0/vnubs.png)
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I've not seen that
All mine are size marked I've had a few different models

interesting! do you stick to one type by chance, or do you have a mixed bag wrt v-light,v-hollow, etc?

i've also emailed them but haven't gotten anything back yet, for anyone curious
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sn00p on December 20, 2021, 01:01:05 PM
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Can someone post a picture of said nubs? I’ve been on ventures for 30 years and I don’t know what you’re talking about.
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i come bearing nubs

(https://i.ibb.co/Qd9n8t0/vnubs.png)
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I've not seen that
All mine are size marked I've had a few different models
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interesting! do you stick to one type by chance, or do you have a mixed bag wrt v-light,v-hollow, etc?

i've also emailed them but haven't gotten anything back yet, for anyone curious

Just checked mine. I have a set of worrest 5.8’s that have the nubs. The set of v-hollows I bought earlier this year have 5.6 on the hanger.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on December 21, 2021, 05:59:20 AM

(https://i.ibb.co/rxhKrwq/IMG-20211221-215506.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rxhKrwq)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on December 21, 2021, 09:38:36 AM
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Can someone post a picture of said nubs? I’ve been on ventures for 30 years and I don’t know what you’re talking about.
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i come bearing nubs

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I've not seen that
All mine are size marked I've had a few different models
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interesting! do you stick to one type by chance, or do you have a mixed bag wrt v-light,v-hollow, etc?

i've also emailed them but haven't gotten anything back yet, for anyone curious
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Just checked mine. I have a set of worrest 5.8’s that have the nubs. The set of v-hollows I bought earlier this year have 5.6 on the hanger.

(https://i.ibb.co/rxhKrwq/IMG-20211221-215506.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rxhKrwq)


thanks y'all, i know the nub mystery isn't the most interesting thing so i appreciate everyone replying. still no word from venture themselves but i assume they are swamped with real money-making customer emails around now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IrritableBowel2 on December 21, 2021, 04:56:53 PM
I set up my first set of Ventures (6.1 hollows) ever a couple of weeks ago after skating Indy's for years. I think they skate nice. They grind fine too, I was actually able to learn front slappies for the first time over the weekend. People say they don't grind, but they seem to grind great with lots of kingpin clearance.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on December 21, 2021, 05:58:41 PM
Yeah I've never felt the slight drag on grinds that Ben Degros talked about and some others on here. They're pure butter for me and the kingpin clearance is unbeatable from a non-inverted stock truck standpoint.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DaSk8D00D on December 26, 2021, 06:45:56 PM
5.6 Ti’s on 14-14.25 wheelbases is the perfect combo for me (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/lawd.png)

The truck madness has been cured and I’m fully AWAKE now (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wow.png)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thebacker on December 26, 2021, 08:01:07 PM
5.6 Ti’s on 14-14.25 wheelbases is the perfect combo for me (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/lawd.png)

The truck madness has been cured and I’m fully AWAKE now (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wow.png)

time to find bushings  8)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DaSk8D00D on December 27, 2021, 06:23:00 AM
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5.6 Ti’s on 14-14.25 wheelbases is the perfect combo for me (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/lawd.png)

The truck madness has been cured and I’m fully AWAKE now (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wow.png)
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time to find bushings  8)

Does anybody know the durometer for stock venture bushings?

I really like the clear ones that came with the Ti's but I'd like to have some backups just in case. I know they have Deluxe Supercush bushings that are clear but they're like 88 durometer which seems soft as hell (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/patrice.png)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on December 27, 2021, 07:07:45 AM
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5.6 Ti’s on 14-14.25 wheelbases is the perfect combo for me (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/lawd.png)

The truck madness has been cured and I’m fully AWAKE now (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wow.png)
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time to find bushings  8)
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Does anybody know the durometer for stock venture bushings?

I really like the clear ones that came with the Ti's but I'd like to have some backups just in case. I know they have Deluxe Supercush bushings that are clear but they're like 88 durometer which seems soft as hell (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/patrice.png)
90a
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DaSk8D00D on December 27, 2021, 07:49:34 AM
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5.6 Ti’s on 14-14.25 wheelbases is the perfect combo for me (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/lawd.png)

The truck madness has been cured and I’m fully AWAKE now (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wow.png)
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time to find bushings  8)
[close]

Does anybody know the durometer for stock venture bushings?

I really like the clear ones that came with the Ti's but I'd like to have some backups just in case. I know they have Deluxe Supercush bushings that are clear but they're like 88 durometer which seems soft as hell (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/patrice.png)
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90a

Thanks just copped those SuperCush as backups (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/aqDwC.png)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MaXX_I-D on December 27, 2021, 10:53:13 AM
Clear Supercush go hard.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on December 27, 2021, 11:07:00 AM
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5.6 Ti’s on 14-14.25 wheelbases is the perfect combo for me (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/lawd.png)

The truck madness has been cured and I’m fully AWAKE now (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wow.png)
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time to find bushings  8)
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Does anybody know the durometer for stock venture bushings?

I really like the clear ones that came with the Ti's but I'd like to have some backups just in case. I know they have Deluxe Supercush bushings that are clear but they're like 88 durometer which seems soft as hell (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/patrice.png)
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90a
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Thanks just copped those SuperCush as backups (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/aqDwC.png)

Orange is 90, Clear is 88
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: The.Skate.Father on December 27, 2021, 11:12:19 AM
Yuk, Venture stock bushings.
I use bones medium, feel more reliable and predictable, but did anyone see this from Local Joe on YT

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Pnia9rPY4 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Pnia9rPY4)

I had some red thunder bushings in my 6.1s, and they bit it after a few sessions..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on December 27, 2021, 11:22:13 AM
Yuk, Venture stock bushings.
I use bones medium, feel more reliable and predictable, but did anyone see this from Local Joe on YT

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Pnia9rPY4 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B6Pnia9rPY4)

I had some red thunder bushings in my 6.1s, and they bit it after a few sessions..

Venture stock are good
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on December 27, 2021, 11:38:17 AM
Last pair of Venchies the bushings became dust current pair are still super solid. I'm guessing covid production problems. Last pair didn't slip axle at all current pair both are slipped.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thebacker on December 27, 2021, 01:24:15 PM
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5.6 Ti’s on 14-14.25 wheelbases is the perfect combo for me (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/lawd.png)

The truck madness has been cured and I’m fully AWAKE now (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wow.png)
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time to find bushings  8)
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Does anybody know the durometer for stock venture bushings?

I really like the clear ones that came with the Ti's but I'd like to have some backups just in case. I know they have Deluxe Supercush bushings that are clear but they're like 88 durometer which seems soft as hell (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/patrice.png)
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90a
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Thanks just copped those SuperCush as backups (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/aqDwC.png)
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Orange is 90, Clear is 88

the orange ones are buttttttttter
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on December 28, 2021, 05:53:22 AM
Found a pair of standard polished 5.6's on the forbidden Z site. Paid 32$ shipped if anyone's in need..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MaXX_I-D on December 28, 2021, 07:12:15 AM
Found a pair of standard polished 5.6's on the forbidden Z site. Paid 32$ shipped if anyone's in need..
Free shipping for the next 8 hours

They’ve got 5.0 HIs(I think(it doesn’t actually say the height just says mid)) for 9.99 each
https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard)

They’ve got 6.1s too for 9.99
 https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-6-1-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-6-1-skateboard-truck.html)

The rest of the sizes are 14.99 each
5.2  https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-2-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-2-skateboard-truck.html)
5.6  https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-5-6-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-5-6-skateboard-truck.html)
5.8  https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-8-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-8-skateboard-truck.html)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Rocko on December 28, 2021, 11:56:35 AM
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Found a pair of standard polished 5.6's on the forbidden Z site. Paid 32$ shipped if anyone's in need..
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Free shipping for the next 8 hours

They’ve got 5.0 HIs(I think(it doesn’t actually say the height just says mid)) for 9.99 each
https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard)

They’ve got 6.1s too for 9.99
 https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-6-1-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-6-1-skateboard-truck.html)

The rest of the sizes are 14.99 each
5.2  https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-2-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-2-skateboard-truck.html)
5.6  https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-5-6-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-5-6-skateboard-truck.html)
5.8  https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-8-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-8-skateboard-truck.html)

Good looks! Just ordered a set of 5.6s. First pair of ventures, gonna set them up on a quasi 8.125. Hope it’s not too bad of an adjustment coming off of indy 139s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on December 28, 2021, 01:42:45 PM
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Found a pair of standard polished 5.6's on the forbidden Z site. Paid 32$ shipped if anyone's in need..
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Free shipping for the next 8 hours

They’ve got 5.0 HIs(I think(it doesn’t actually say the height just says mid)) for 9.99 each
https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard)

They’ve got 6.1s too for 9.99
 https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-6-1-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-6-1-skateboard-truck.html)

The rest of the sizes are 14.99 each
5.2  https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-2-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-2-skateboard-truck.html)
5.6  https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-5-6-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-5-6-skateboard-truck.html)
5.8  https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-8-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-8-skateboard-truck.html)
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Good looks! Just ordered a set of 5.6s. First pair of ventures, gonna set them up on a quasi 8.125. Hope it’s not too bad of an adjustment coming off of indy 139s.

This is my setup essentially for the indoor park board, with loophole teardrop 52s - everything sets up flush perfectly.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on December 28, 2021, 09:09:19 PM
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5.6 Ti’s on 14-14.25 wheelbases is the perfect combo for me (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/lawd.png)

The truck madness has been cured and I’m fully AWAKE now (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wow.png)
[close]

time to find bushings  8)
[close]

Does anybody know the durometer for stock venture bushings?

I really like the clear ones that came with the Ti's but I'd like to have some backups just in case. I know they have Deluxe Supercush bushings that are clear but they're like 88 durometer which seems soft as hell (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/patrice.png)
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90a
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Thanks just copped those SuperCush as backups (https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/aqDwC.png)
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Orange is 90, Clear is 88
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the orange ones are buttttttttter

I want the green bushings.. For nostalgic purposes.. Reminiscent of the venture featherlite era..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 29, 2021, 07:48:52 AM
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Found a pair of standard polished 5.6's on the forbidden Z site. Paid 32$ shipped if anyone's in need..
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Free shipping for the next 8 hours

They’ve got 5.0 HIs(I think(it doesn’t actually say the height just says mid)) for 9.99 each
https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard)

They’ve got 6.1s too for 9.99
 https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-6-1-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-6-1-skateboard-truck.html)

The rest of the sizes are 14.99 each
5.2  https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-2-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-2-skateboard-truck.html)
5.6  https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-5-6-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-5-6-skateboard-truck.html)
5.8  https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-8-skateboard-truck.html (https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-8-skateboard-truck.html)
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Good looks! Just ordered a set of 5.6s. First pair of ventures, gonna set them up on a quasi 8.125. Hope it’s not too bad of an adjustment coming off of indy 139s.

139s are dope trucks, and I don’t like Indy all that much.
I haven’t had 5.6s.
Please take this with a large helping of salt, but imo, ventures ride a little bigger than the equivalent indy size, due to the wb adjustment.
So, you are going up in truck size, and the effective wb on your new setup might be a bit bigger.
None of that is bad, it actually might be very good. I’m a huge venture Stan, so factor that in. With ventures I place the foot I’m popping off of, closer to the top of the nose/tail.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 31, 2021, 08:07:28 AM
Landing primo a ton lately, any tips for axle slip?

My shop hooked up a replacement. after that one hit axle I went back to the slippy one. I just tapped it out till the truck axle stopped moving around. Likely impact fixed it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on December 31, 2021, 12:55:56 PM
My back trucks axle on my ventures just recently slipped too, almost two years after I first started skating them. Too many primo’d flip tricks I guess. My goal is to get to the axle on these so imma keep on skating em, does get annoying having to tap my axle on the ground to unlock my wheel though a handful of times throughout a sesh.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 31, 2021, 05:07:43 PM
It happens sometimes. It's pretty rare in comparison to back in the day.

I don't know if anyone remembers the little cartoon add. Tap tap tap tap. More tapping than skating add. I'm pretty sure it was a gk ad maybe because they fixed the problem If I remember.

Indy was extreme Axle slip. I remember floating axles too. Was no better really. Eli took an axle out of a new truck and it was wrecked lol. Never going back in
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on December 31, 2021, 11:03:51 PM
I run race reds, tighten everything down tight.  In theory, no axel to slip.  I think conical wheels make it less likely too….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: disappointed on December 31, 2021, 11:21:09 PM

Anyone know if Titanium are available in Oz anywhere now? Did they get restock or did I just miss it?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 01, 2022, 04:13:50 AM

Anyone know if Titanium are available in Oz anywhere now? Did they get restock or did I just miss it?

Venture and Thunder Ti variations had been out of production for quite a while, only just recently coming back into production not too long ago, so I think some shops in the US have them in very limited numbers, but everywhere else in the world will most likely take another six months or so before we see any here in Australia, production going at capacity and then shipping delays what they are at the moment too.

You might be lucky and find some somewhere, more likely if you do order from overseas, but if you keep bugging your local shop, who in turn can ask Project Distribution, so then hopefully getting more interest going, rather than just asking someone at Project directly.

There was a media release with new DLX stock just before Christmas, but I think there are more just the polished, V lights and V hollows out now, as per the catalog pic link below.


https://www.venturetrucks.net/fall21/06-ve-fl21-d1-polished.jpg

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: disappointed on January 01, 2022, 06:21:51 AM
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Venture and Thunder Ti variations had been out of production for quite a while, only just recently coming back into production not too long ago, so I think some shops in the US have them in very limited numbers, but everywhere else in the world will most likely take another six months or so before we see any here in Australia, production going at capacity and then shipping delays what they are at the moment too.

You might be lucky and find some somewhere, more likely if you do order from overseas, but if you keep bugging your local shop, who in turn can ask Project Distribution, so then hopefully getting more interest going, rather than just asking someone at Project directly.

There was a media release with new DLX stock just before Christmas, but I think there are more just the polished, V lights and V hollows out now, as per the catalog pic link below.


https://www.venturetrucks.net/fall21/06-ve-fl21-d1-polished.jpg

Thanks for the info, mate, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 01, 2022, 02:34:25 PM
I run race reds, tighten everything down tight.  In theory, no axel to slip.  I think conical wheels make it less likely too….

I def agree with all this.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on January 03, 2022, 08:59:38 AM
Setup my 5.6's yesterday and my goal is to skate them the whole year or till they break. Truck madness be damned. I'm gonna run them stock too. Unless the bushings or something break.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on January 04, 2022, 12:35:23 AM
Setup my 5.6's yesterday and my goal is to skate them the whole year or till they break. Truck madness be damned. I'm gonna run them stock too. Unless the bushings or something break.

Same here. I had some lightly skated 5.2 lights that I decided were going to be the only trucks I skates until they break. Finally started to get into my Black Friday stash of boards and so far it's a perfect combo. After a few sessions on them I'm hooked.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on January 04, 2022, 08:25:49 AM
I run race reds, tighten everything down tight.  In theory, no axel to slip.  I think conical wheels make it less likely too….

Curious... What's your reasoning that conicals make axels less likely to slip?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DaSk8D00D on January 04, 2022, 09:25:40 AM
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Curious... What's your reasoning that conicals make axels less likely to slip?

The outer edge of the wheel can prevent the axel from smacking the ground, similar to how the lip on the edge of a phone case protects your screen if you drop it face down
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on January 04, 2022, 09:56:11 AM
I'm riding some 5.2 highs that are just over a year old and I have axle slip on my front truck. Whenever I ride wider wheels in general (conical fulls & og classics are what I've ridden recently); I can attest that my wheels don't lock up as much as running classics.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on January 04, 2022, 10:50:49 AM
Any tips on getting Venture highs loose without messing the geometry?

Stock bushings are giving me hard time literally
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on January 04, 2022, 11:03:11 AM
Any tips on getting Venture highs loose without messing the geometry?

Stock bushings are giving me hard time literally

swapping the top washer for the bones flat washer helps a lot. You could also try a softer duro option from the deluxe supercush bushing offering. I believe stock are 90 so you could try out the 88

https://garageskateshop.com/products/deluxe-supercush-bushings?variant=40041075572896&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=Cj0KCQiA_c-OBhDFARIsAIFg3ewrRUSsyQpeZl3kYCB4wDzTyI27aYcNxE9OFyVpzN4F2Jl4DcyApwsaAo9VEALw_wcB
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: toe_knee on January 04, 2022, 11:18:35 AM
Any tips on getting Venture highs loose without messing the geometry?

Stock bushings are giving me hard time literally

I switched to softer riptide bushings, haven’t had to deal with my bushings since, this is the second pair they’ve been in as well
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on January 04, 2022, 12:29:40 PM
Any tips on getting Venture highs loose without messing the geometry?

Stock bushings are giving me hard time literally

supercush 88a bushings are the way to go
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on January 04, 2022, 12:46:23 PM
The dream about supercush 88s died when i realised only aftermarket bushings you can get in my country are Indys or dohdoh's.

Anyone played around with either of those companies soft bushings?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 04, 2022, 01:08:58 PM
The Indy red 88 are actually oddly hard. Indy 90 or 78 white might be the only logical choice. Haven't ridden Doh Doh's since the 8th grade.

Hit up DLX, maybe they will ship you some.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 04, 2022, 04:38:31 PM
Any tips on getting Venture highs loose without messing the geometry?

Stock bushings are giving me hard time literally

Trim down the top bushing and they will feel a whole lot looser with the kingpin nut in the same place, or tighten it down a touch, which also gives more kingpin clearance.

I can send you the link info if you like.

It works for any brand truck and any brand bushings.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on January 04, 2022, 05:09:40 PM
You can go conical bushings on the bottom too. Indy aftermarkets fit Ventures right?

Here's my weird situation.  Don't know how I ended up here but it feels rad.
(https://i.imgur.com/AEiBt7g.jpeg)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ol Nick on January 04, 2022, 06:11:15 PM
Any tips on getting Venture highs loose without messing the geometry?

Stock bushings are giving me hard time literally
To get my 6.1s feeling good, I swapped the top washer for flat and then spent a good while breaking the stock bushings in. To their credit, despite seeming to take way longer to break in naturally, they’ve stayed in that sweet spot for way longer. Usually on Thunders once the bushings feel just right, they’re a couple weeks away from blowing out. I think maybe the flat washer on the 6.1s is helping preserve the bushing by not digging in maybe?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 04, 2022, 10:32:45 PM
I’ve mentioned this before but the riptide Pivot cups feel much more fluid….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on January 05, 2022, 07:39:56 AM
I’ve mentioned this before but the riptide Pivot cups feel much more fluid….

riptide pivot cups significantly make any truck brand feel better from my experience. tested with aces, thunders, and ventures. well worth the purchase imo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: toe_knee on January 05, 2022, 09:56:35 AM
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I’ve mentioned this before but the riptide Pivot cups feel much more fluid….
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riptide pivot cups significantly make any truck brand feel better from my experience. tested with aces, thunders, and ventures. well worth the purchase imo

I’ve got the whole kit on my trucks, and I don’t see myself using stock bushings or pivot cups anymore
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thebacker on January 05, 2022, 11:37:52 AM
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I’ve mentioned this before but the riptide Pivot cups feel much more fluid….
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riptide pivot cups significantly make any truck brand feel better from my experience. tested with aces, thunders, and ventures. well worth the purchase imo
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I’ve got the whole kit on my trucks, and I don’t see myself using stock bushings or pivot cups anymore
green pivot cup? Yall are making me want them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on January 05, 2022, 04:17:14 PM
The Indy red 88 are actually oddly hard. Indy 90 or 78 white might be the only logical choice. Haven't ridden Doh Doh's since the 8th grade.

Hit up DLX, maybe they will ship you some.

I use those super soft Indy aftermarket bushings in my ventures, and they do work really well. I only weigh like 130, so when I got them at first, and they had the stock blue bushings, I could barley make them turn. Lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ol Nick on January 05, 2022, 05:36:57 PM
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I’ve mentioned this before but the riptide Pivot cups feel much more fluid….
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riptide pivot cups significantly make any truck brand feel better from my experience. tested with aces, thunders, and ventures. well worth the purchase imo
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I’ve got the whole kit on my trucks, and I don’t see myself using stock bushings or pivot cups anymore
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green pivot cup? Yall are making me want them
Do it. I have two setups right now, both with Thunder but one has stock pivot cup bushings and the other has Rip Tide. Side-by-side the stock truck is so creaky and loud compared to the riptides. Riding them, they still turn like stock but the riptides seem to help the hanger return to center or something. It doesn’t really feel any tighter but still snaps back out of a turn nicely.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 05, 2022, 09:48:32 PM
To me they made more of a difference than after market bushings….I got the Bennett/ Indy ones and despite being insistent it wouldn’t work in my thunders they did…then I transplanted them into my ventures.  Worth the investment …..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: toe_knee on January 06, 2022, 12:31:37 PM
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I’ve mentioned this before but the riptide Pivot cups feel much more fluid….
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riptide pivot cups significantly make any truck brand feel better from my experience. tested with aces, thunders, and ventures. well worth the purchase imo
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I’ve got the whole kit on my trucks, and I don’t see myself using stock bushings or pivot cups anymore
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green pivot cup? Yall are making me want them

Yea the green pivot cups, they are super good about answering any questions too, I got a mixed up pair for my trucks a softer cone up top and a harder barrel below, several different formulas to choose from and they will give you flat washers if you ask
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Nap on January 15, 2022, 02:17:18 AM
I'am amazed how well they turn for yuto, in general that they are turning well in bowls.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CYozznUlb97/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CYozznUlb97/)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FUBAR on January 15, 2022, 06:07:59 AM
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Any tips on getting Venture highs loose without messing the geometry?

Stock bushings are giving me hard time literally
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To get my 6.1s feeling good, I swapped the top washer for flat and then spent a good while breaking the stock bushings in. To their credit, despite seeming to take way longer to break in naturally, they’ve stayed in that sweet spot for way longer. Usually on Thunders once the bushings feel just right, they’re a couple weeks away from blowing out. I think maybe the flat washer on the 6.1s is helping preserve the bushing by not digging in maybe?
Same here, but I have a bones hard in the bottom. Small flat washer on top with stock top bushing. Mine are 5.8s though. Very stable feeling but a controlled loose. Only downside is I am grinding into the top bushing on certain grinds.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 15, 2022, 11:26:19 AM
I'am amazed how well they turn for yuto, in general that they are turning well in bowls.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CYozznUlb97/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CYozznUlb97/)

Pretty sure Yuto skate 5.2 lo’s.
Everyone knows those don’t turn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 15, 2022, 11:59:38 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/tBY28gb/2-CB5-B576-A695-48-A8-B884-AE9570-F4-BDF1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jh3wgmL)
ace low bushings in 6.1s
pushed around the block and they feel great @200lbs
supercush 94a are the next (hopefully last) on my list
final frontier is bushing madness
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on January 15, 2022, 12:21:09 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/tBY28gb/2-CB5-B576-A695-48-A8-B884-AE9570-F4-BDF1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jh3wgmL)
ace low bushings in 6.1s
pushed around the block and they feel great @200lbs
supercush 94a are the next (hopefully last) on my list
final frontier is bushing madness

Yes you finally have come find the truth. Been running this exact bushing and washer combo for a while. Feels real good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 16, 2022, 08:36:12 PM
The bottom bushing of a Bones is taller than a Venture low so he would be lifting his trucks 1 or 2mm.

Karl Watson also runs this setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LewFarrell on January 16, 2022, 09:42:05 PM
The bottom bushing of a Bones is taller than a Venture low so he would be lifting his trucks 1 or 2mm.

Karl Watson also runs this setup.
Really depends if you run the bottom washer though. Bones bottom with a flat washer underneath is pretty much the same as stock venture low bottom with stock washer. That's the setup I run (with hards).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 17, 2022, 06:57:08 AM
Even with lows? Maybe I have it mixed up and the top bushing is the lower one than highs.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Acky Jacky on January 17, 2022, 07:02:17 AM
I just put some of those Supercush 88 Deluxe bushings in my regular 8.25 ventures, highly improves the turn in my opinion. I’ll probably try riptides too after reading this.
I just love manuals on Ventures, they’ve been helping my perfect nose-manuals which I’ve struggled with in the past.
I also have some Ventures on a cruiser deck where the bottom bushing on the front is kinda destroyed and they’re pretty much wiggly. They feel cool but I wouldn’t want them on my everyday setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LewFarrell on January 17, 2022, 08:09:48 AM
Even with lows? Maybe I have it mixed up and the top bushing is the lower one than highs.
My low bottoms are 12.8mm compared to 13.8mm on the bones hard bottoms. Using the flat washer under the hards bottom compared to stock bottom and stock washer adds 0.5mm in height. Negligible enough to me as I find the hards compress a bit over time bringing it close to stock.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: somedudefromnj on January 17, 2022, 01:26:09 PM
hey guys noob here too lazy to go through eighty pages.

I started skating aces because my thunders would not turn for shit, but i think im ready to go back to a truck that is more responsive when it comes to a quicker snap. Could venture be a happy medium? Ive been cursed with the phantom pop and am tired of constantly trying to rewire muscle memory
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on January 17, 2022, 01:30:23 PM
hey guys noob here too lazy to go through eighty pages.

I started skating aces because my thunders would not turn for shit, but i think im ready to go back to a truck that is more responsive when it comes to a quicker snap. Could venture be a happy medium? Ive been cursed with the phantom pop and am tired of constantly trying to rewire muscle memory

What made you feel like thunders dont turn for shit? You may not be too happy with ventures if so.

Maybe indys with a forged baseplate (so forged hollows or titaniums) could be the happy medium
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: somedudefromnj on January 17, 2022, 02:04:11 PM
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hey guys noob here too lazy to go through eighty pages.

I started skating aces because my thunders would not turn for shit, but i think im ready to go back to a truck that is more responsive when it comes to a quicker snap. Could venture be a happy medium? Ive been cursed with the phantom pop and am tired of constantly trying to rewire muscle memory
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What made you feel like thunders dont turn for shit? You may not be too happy with ventures if so.

Maybe indys with a forged baseplate (so forged hollows or titaniums) could be the happy medium

so I had a pair of thunders for years that seemed like they turned great and I rode them till I couldnt even put wheels on them anymore, probably way longer than I should have had them. I bought a new set at my local and figured they just needed to break in or something. I would lean to turn and felt like they just went in a straight line but tilted if that makes any sense?

Anyway they were grinded down to shit and I realized they still didnt turn unless I was tic tacking them

Gonna check out those Indys though, thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Cthunderw on January 17, 2022, 02:19:59 PM
hey guys noob here too lazy to go through eighty pages.

I started skating aces because my thunders would not turn for shit, but i think im ready to go back to a truck that is more responsive when it comes to a quicker snap. Could venture be a happy medium? Ive been cursed with the phantom pop and am tired of constantly trying to rewire muscle memory
Maybe buy a set of softer Thunder or Indy bushings before buying a whole new set of trucks to try out, the new bushings will work in the Indy's if you decide you don't like them in your Thunders. I'm only an amateur when it comes to truck madness but I'd start by only replacing the bottom (closer to the deck) bushing with the new soft ones. I think this would help you get a deeper turn without having them too loose from a neutral position. Feel free to correct me so I can learn something. Maybe even trimming the existing bottom bushings a bit and tightening more would achieve similar results.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 17, 2022, 02:35:39 PM
That’s super weird, my Thunders turn on a fucking dime. They’re known for being twitchy and I run them stock tightness. Are you really light?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DaSk8D00D on January 17, 2022, 06:34:13 PM
I just put some of those Supercush 88 Deluxe bushings in my regular 8.25 ventures, highly improves the turn in my opinion. I’ll probably try riptides too after reading this.
I just love manuals on Ventures, they’ve been helping my perfect nose-manuals which I’ve struggled with in the past.
I also have some Ventures on a cruiser deck where the bottom bushing on the front is kinda destroyed and they’re pretty much wiggly. They feel cool but I wouldn’t want them on my everyday setup.


I already had the riptides but I switched to the Supercush 88’s on my 5.6 Ti’s and my god these shits are perfect(https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/banderas.png)

I set them up on a twin tail in the house and adjusted the tightness by simply standing on it stationary. When I skated later today I figured I’d have to fine tune them and break them in but no, they were already better than the stock clear bushings I’d been skating for months and I actually had them tuned just right. They turn noticeably quicker and smoother without getting wheelbity.

I finally found the perfect trucks yall this shit is amazing(https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjcry1.png)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: somedudefromnj on January 18, 2022, 07:35:53 AM
That’s super weird, my Thunders turn on a fucking dime. They’re known for being twitchy and I run them stock tightness. Are you really light?

That's the thing I'm a heavy bastard. My old ones turned perfect but the last set were so bad. Not sure if I got some bogus ones or maybe since they weren't raws or something. Idk
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: somedudefromnj on January 18, 2022, 07:38:30 AM
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hey guys noob here too lazy to go through eighty pages.

I started skating aces because my thunders would not turn for shit, but i think im ready to go back to a truck that is more responsive when it comes to a quicker snap. Could venture be a happy medium? Ive been cursed with the phantom pop and am tired of constantly trying to rewire muscle memory
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Maybe buy a set of softer Thunder or Indy bushings before buying a whole new set of trucks to try out, the new bushings will work in the Indy's if you decide you don't like them in your Thunders. I'm only an amateur when it comes to truck madness but I'd start by only replacing the bottom (closer to the deck) bushing with the new soft ones. I think this would help you get a deeper turn without having them too loose from a neutral position. Feel free to correct me so I can learn something. Maybe even trimming the existing bottom bushings a bit and tightening more would achieve similar results.

Wish I hit this thread earlier, but I have them to done kid so it's too late for me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on January 18, 2022, 08:49:18 AM
hey guys noob here too lazy to go through eighty pages.

I started skating aces because my thunders would not turn for shit, but i think im ready to go back to a truck that is more responsive when it comes to a quicker snap. Could venture be a happy medium? Ive been cursed with the phantom pop and am tired of constantly trying to rewire muscle memory

Ventures turn worse than Thunders. It's way more lean than carve and there's a definite maxing out point where the truck will refuse to turn anymore.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: somedudefromnj on January 18, 2022, 10:04:50 AM
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hey guys noob here too lazy to go through eighty pages.

I started skating aces because my thunders would not turn for shit, but i think im ready to go back to a truck that is more responsive when it comes to a quicker snap. Could venture be a happy medium? Ive been cursed with the phantom pop and am tired of constantly trying to rewire muscle memory
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Ventures turn worse than Thunders. It's way more lean than carve and there's a definite maxing out point where the truck will refuse to turn anymore.

Ah damn. Sound like my best bet is to spend more time and be patient with the aces

Thanks a bunch!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Acky Jacky on January 18, 2022, 12:08:10 PM
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That’s super weird, my Thunders turn on a fucking dime. They’re known for being twitchy and I run them stock tightness. Are you really light?
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That's the thing I'm a heavy bastard. My old ones turned perfect but the last set were so bad. Not sure if I got some bogus ones or maybe since they weren't raws or something. Idk

I had this issue with a set of Thunders too, actually. They seem like fussy trucks to me so I decided to stop riding them. Maybe one day I’ll try again.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 18, 2022, 06:14:19 PM
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hey guys noob here too lazy to go through eighty pages.

I started skating aces because my thunders would not turn for shit, but i think im ready to go back to a truck that is more responsive when it comes to a quicker snap. Could venture be a happy medium? Ive been cursed with the phantom pop and am tired of constantly trying to rewire muscle memory
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Ventures turn worse than Thunders. It's way more lean than carve and there's a definite maxing out point where the truck will refuse to turn anymore.
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Ah damn. Sound like my best bet is to spend more time and be patient with the aces

Thanks a bunch!

Indy mid is prolly the correct answer…..I know….it sucks…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 18, 2022, 07:47:00 PM
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hey guys noob here too lazy to go through eighty pages.

I started skating aces because my thunders would not turn for shit, but i think im ready to go back to a truck that is more responsive when it comes to a quicker snap. Could venture be a happy medium? Ive been cursed with the phantom pop and am tired of constantly trying to rewire muscle memory
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Ventures turn worse than Thunders. It's way more lean than carve and there's a definite maxing out point where the truck will refuse to turn anymore.
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Ah damn. Sound like my best bet is to spend more time and be patient with the aces

Thanks a bunch!
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Indy mid The new Royals is prolly the correct answer…..I know….it's AWESOME…

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(https://i.ibb.co/tBY28gb/2-CB5-B576-A695-48-A8-B884-AE9570-F4-BDF1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jh3wgmL)
ace low bushings in 6.1s
pushed around the block and they feel great @200lbs
supercush 94a are the next (hopefully last) on my list
final frontier is bushing madness
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Yes you finally have come find the truth. Been running this exact bushing and washer combo for a while. Feels real good.

The ACE low dual duro bushings (+ Riptide cups) were the best feeling Venture setup I had found.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on January 19, 2022, 11:25:25 AM
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hey guys noob here too lazy to go through eighty pages.

I started skating aces because my thunders would not turn for shit, but i think im ready to go back to a truck that is more responsive when it comes to a quicker snap. Could venture be a happy medium? Ive been cursed with the phantom pop and am tired of constantly trying to rewire muscle memory
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Ventures turn worse than Thunders. It's way more lean than carve and there's a definite maxing out point where the truck will refuse to turn anymore.
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Ah damn. Sound like my best bet is to spend more time and be patient with the aces

Thanks a bunch!
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Indy mid The new Royals is prolly the correct answer…..I know….it's AWESOME…
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(https://i.ibb.co/tBY28gb/2-CB5-B576-A695-48-A8-B884-AE9570-F4-BDF1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jh3wgmL)
ace low bushings in 6.1s
pushed around the block and they feel great @200lbs
supercush 94a are the next (hopefully last) on my list
final frontier is bushing madness
[close]

Yes you finally have come find the truth. Been running this exact bushing and washer combo for a while. Feels real good.
[close]

The ACE low dual duro bushings (+ Riptide cups) were the best feeling Venture setup I had found.

Yeah, I'm trying for a carvy but responsive venture setup rn so Im going to run some Indy 78a super soft cylinder bottom bushings and venture stock tops so even if the bottom bushing is tall its still super soft and wont let the carve "max out" like ventures do, but the hanger will still snap back into place cuz of the hard top bushing. Think it'll work? or is the top stock washer still gonna somehow restrict the turn?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fat Tire on January 19, 2022, 11:41:22 AM
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That’s super weird, my Thunders turn on a fucking dime. They’re known for being twitchy and I run them stock tightness. Are you really light?
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That's the thing I'm a heavy bastard. My old ones turned perfect but the last set were so bad. Not sure if I got some bogus ones or maybe since they weren't raws or something. Idk

I had the same issue with my Thunders, got a new set a couple years back and the turn sucked so I switched back to Ace.

Miss the pop and stability  :'(
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 20, 2022, 01:15:14 PM
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hey guys noob here too lazy to go through eighty pages.

I started skating aces because my thunders would not turn for shit, but i think im ready to go back to a truck that is more responsive when it comes to a quicker snap. Could venture be a happy medium? Ive been cursed with the phantom pop and am tired of constantly trying to rewire muscle memory
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Ventures turn worse than Thunders. It's way more lean than carve and there's a definite maxing out point where the truck will refuse to turn anymore.
[close]

Ah damn. Sound like my best bet is to spend more time and be patient with the aces

Thanks a bunch!
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Indy mid The new Royals is prolly the correct answer…..I know….it's AWESOME…
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(https://i.ibb.co/tBY28gb/2-CB5-B576-A695-48-A8-B884-AE9570-F4-BDF1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jh3wgmL)
ace low bushings in 6.1s
pushed around the block and they feel great @200lbs
supercush 94a are the next (hopefully last) on my list
final frontier is bushing madness
[close]

Yes you finally have come find the truth. Been running this exact bushing and washer combo for a while. Feels real good.
[close]

The ACE low dual duro bushings (+ Riptide cups) were the best feeling Venture setup I had found.
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Yeah, I'm trying for a carvy but responsive venture setup rn so Im going to run some Indy 78a super soft cylinder bottom bushings and venture stock tops so even if the bottom bushing is tall its still super soft and wont let the carve "max out" like ventures do, but the hanger will still snap back into place cuz of the hard top bushing. Think it'll work? or is the top stock washer still gonna somehow restrict the turn?
i just ran that combo with flat top washers
its good for turning quick but instant wheelbite on grinds
cant speak for the stock top washer, never used them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on January 21, 2022, 09:15:29 PM
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hey guys noob here too lazy to go through eighty pages.

I started skating aces because my thunders would not turn for shit, but i think im ready to go back to a truck that is more responsive when it comes to a quicker snap. Could venture be a happy medium? Ive been cursed with the phantom pop and am tired of constantly trying to rewire muscle memory
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Ventures turn worse than Thunders. It's way more lean than carve and there's a definite maxing out point where the truck will refuse to turn anymore.
[close]

Ah damn. Sound like my best bet is to spend more time and be patient with the aces

Thanks a bunch!
[close]

Indy mid The new Royals is prolly the correct answer…..I know….it's AWESOME…
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(https://i.ibb.co/tBY28gb/2-CB5-B576-A695-48-A8-B884-AE9570-F4-BDF1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jh3wgmL)
ace low bushings in 6.1s
pushed around the block and they feel great @200lbs
supercush 94a are the next (hopefully last) on my list
final frontier is bushing madness
[close]

Yes you finally have come find the truth. Been running this exact bushing and washer combo for a while. Feels real good.
[close]

The ACE low dual duro bushings (+ Riptide cups) were the best feeling Venture setup I had found.
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Yeah, I'm trying for a carvy but responsive venture setup rn so Im going to run some Indy 78a super soft cylinder bottom bushings and venture stock tops so even if the bottom bushing is tall its still super soft and wont let the carve "max out" like ventures do, but the hanger will still snap back into place cuz of the hard top bushing. Think it'll work? or is the top stock washer still gonna somehow restrict the turn?
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i just ran that combo with flat top washers
its good for turning quick but instant wheelbite on grinds
cant speak for the stock top washer, never used them

wym by grinds? you wheelbite on a 5050 on a ledge? doesnt make sense to me i dont skate tranny btw
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 21, 2022, 09:22:05 PM
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hey guys noob here too lazy to go through eighty pages.

I started skating aces because my thunders would not turn for shit, but i think im ready to go back to a truck that is more responsive when it comes to a quicker snap. Could venture be a happy medium? Ive been cursed with the phantom pop and am tired of constantly trying to rewire muscle memory
[close]

Ventures turn worse than Thunders. It's way more lean than carve and there's a definite maxing out point where the truck will refuse to turn anymore.
[close]

Ah damn. Sound like my best bet is to spend more time and be patient with the aces

Thanks a bunch!
[close]

Indy mid The new Royals is prolly the correct answer…..I know….it's AWESOME…
[close]

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(https://i.ibb.co/tBY28gb/2-CB5-B576-A695-48-A8-B884-AE9570-F4-BDF1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jh3wgmL)
ace low bushings in 6.1s
pushed around the block and they feel great @200lbs
supercush 94a are the next (hopefully last) on my list
final frontier is bushing madness
[close]

Yes you finally have come find the truth. Been running this exact bushing and washer combo for a while. Feels real good.
[close]

The ACE low dual duro bushings (+ Riptide cups) were the best feeling Venture setup I had found.
[close]

Yeah, I'm trying for a carvy but responsive venture setup rn so Im going to run some Indy 78a super soft cylinder bottom bushings and venture stock tops so even if the bottom bushing is tall its still super soft and wont let the carve "max out" like ventures do, but the hanger will still snap back into place cuz of the hard top bushing. Think it'll work? or is the top stock washer still gonna somehow restrict the turn?
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i just ran that combo with flat top washers
its good for turning quick but instant wheelbite on grinds
cant speak for the stock top washer, never used them
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wym by grinds? you wheelbite on a 5050 on a ledge? doesnt make sense to me i dont skate tranny btw
im pretty heavy @200 lbs
5050s on ledges were the only grind that just wouldnt work
physics man
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Knee Pain on January 22, 2022, 07:44:00 AM
My stock purple bushings are starting to crumble, not sure what to get to replace them.

What’s the consensus on the best replacement? Supercush, bones, ace?

I run them pretty loose.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on January 22, 2022, 08:05:26 AM
My stock purple bushings are starting to crumble, not sure what to get to replace them.

What’s the consensus on the best replacement? Supercush, bones, ace?

I run them pretty loose.
if youve been running stock and have very few complaints i would go with supercush. doesnt change any washers or geometry and you can go a little softer with the 88 vs the 90 which should feel like stock but a bit better imo. hth!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Knee Pain on January 22, 2022, 10:58:03 AM
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My stock purple bushings are starting to crumble, not sure what to get to replace them.

What’s the consensus on the best replacement? Supercush, bones, ace?

I run them pretty loose.
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if youve been running stock and have very few complaints i would go with supercush. doesnt change any washers or geometry and you can go a little softer with the 88 vs the 90 which should feel like stock but a bit better imo. hth!

Appreciate the response! Will probably go for the 88 supercush.

I’d like to try a flat washer too as the stock one really eats up the hanger, but don’t really want to buy bones bushings just for the washer…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 24, 2022, 01:57:52 PM
re: ace low bushings in 6.1s
they are the shit, perfect amount of looseness
have my kingpin nuts flush but the back truck is a lil tighter
will use these on my street board as long as they make em
10/10 do recommend
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Acky Jacky on January 24, 2022, 03:07:20 PM
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My stock purple bushings are starting to crumble, not sure what to get to replace them.

What’s the consensus on the best replacement? Supercush, bones, ace?

I run them pretty loose.
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if youve been running stock and have very few complaints i would go with supercush. doesnt change any washers or geometry and you can go a little softer with the 88 vs the 90 which should feel like stock but a bit better imo. hth!
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Appreciate the response! Will probably go for the 88 supercush.

I’d like to try a flat washer too as the stock one really eats up the hanger, but don’t really want to buy bones bushings just for the washer…

I run a flat washer on the top bushing, but I tried it on the bottom and it felt like it drastically changed the geometry or something. It wasn’t worth it for the extra looseness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 24, 2022, 04:26:09 PM
Idky purple stock bushings sometimes crumble.


Definitely buy super crush if you can. The green 94 or the orange? 90 are pretty close to the stock hardness.

 I back Indy GRP as a second. It’s definitely the same stuff just different colors. I just prefer dlxsf.

Flat washers are critical.

My my next set of trucks I’m going
Green bushings
green pivot cups
green dlx 3 ply risers.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: globe fusion on January 24, 2022, 08:15:29 PM
just jumped on and too lazy to scroll through all the pages.

am riding ace classics right now (44 on 8.5), getting bothered by the stability on ollies.

am debating to switch to venture or thunder

what's the consensus on 6.1 on 8.5? or is 5.8 the way to go?
difference between light's and regulars? the lights are lower, and i believe the hanger is a bit far back, thus extending the wb.

how does the wb on venture compare to thunders?
the turn vs. thunder and ace?

if you have any other info, comments etc. feel free to reply or pm.

thank you for your time and help
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 24, 2022, 08:36:51 PM
just jumped on and too lazy to scroll through all the pages.

am riding ace classics right now (44 on 8.5), getting bothered by the stability on ollies.

am debating to switch to venture or thunder

what's the consensus on 6.1 on 8.5? or is 5.8 the way to go?
difference between light's and regulars? the lights are lower, and i believe the hanger is a bit far back, thus extending the wb.

how does the wb on venture compare to thunders?
the turn vs. thunder and ace?

if you have any other info, comments etc. feel free to reply or pm.

thank you for your time and help
if stability is what you want, venture is the answer
ive had both the 5.8s and 6.1s
if you ride 8.5 and up then 6.1 is a no brainer (extra stable)

wb extension
5.8 cast: 3.25 forged:3.375
6.1 cast: 3.125 forged: 3.25

i never ride ventures completely stock. ace low bushings, flat top washers, and riptide pivot cups. worth the upgrades when everything else about the truck is perfect. turn great, even on transition
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on January 24, 2022, 08:46:19 PM
just jumped on and too lazy to scroll through all the pages.

am riding ace classics right now (44 on 8.5), getting bothered by the stability on ollies.

am debating to switch to venture or thunder

what's the consensus on 6.1 on 8.5? or is 5.8 the way to go?
difference between light's and regulars? the lights are lower, and i believe the hanger is a bit far back, thus extending the wb.

how does the wb on venture compare to thunders?
the turn vs. thunder and ace?

if you have any other info, comments etc. feel free to reply or pm.

thank you for your time and help

I prefer 5.8s on 8.5s, lighter and a bit more nimble and you can always pad the axle with washers if you want a little more grind space.

If you get standard ventures with the cast baseplates, it'll probably feel a little less foreign as the wb isn't extended as much. Putting hollow/titanium hangers on the cast plates is very nice but definitely not necessary.

The wb on cast plates should be pretty similar to thunder on forged plates give or take a bit, and the wb on ventures with forged plates is a little longer than that.

Venture turn feels pretty similar to indys, but much slower, feels like they only really lean and don't max out like indys or aces but thats precisely why they feel so stable. Compared to thunders they turn slower too but are more stable and less twitchy, less wheelbitey.

No amount of tinkering will make ventures turn as well as ace, thats not the point of ventures. But agree that ace bushings, riptide pivot cups and flat top washers will make them feel very very good.

Personally, I'd say breaking in the stock bushings and putting a bones flat top washer is all you need to get them feeling great. The rest are very marginal improvements.

They should pinch a lot better than aces on crooked grinds etc too.

Dont be too worried about the lack of turn coming from aces if you're after stability though. A friend of mine went from aces to stock ventures, complained a little at first but got pretty used to the turn in a few days, and after he put flat washers on said it was great, no issues at all.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on January 24, 2022, 08:51:57 PM
wb extension
5.8 cast: 3.25 forged:3.375
6.1 cast: 3.125 forged: 3.25

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I didn’t realize the wb extension varied between hanger widths. Does anyone know the cast v forged numbers for the 5.6 offhand?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on January 24, 2022, 08:55:19 PM
wb extension
5.8 cast: 3.25 forged:3.375
6.1 cast: 3.125 forged: 3.25


I didn’t realize the wb extension varied between hanger widths. Does anyone know the cast v forged numbers for the 5.6 offhand?
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Maybe 6.1s are different, but 5.8 and 5.6s are the same I'm pretty sure.
When I measured my forged it was more like 3.4. 3.25 sounds about right for cast.

Probably some measurement error here n there, also you have to average the axle to axle measurements from both sides because your axles might not be perfectly straight due to your bushings etc.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 25, 2022, 07:28:50 AM
5.8 and 5.6 are the same. I had both and lined the baseplate holes up and the axles lined up perfectly and then I threw them off my balcony at an innocent passerby.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: globe fusion on January 25, 2022, 06:20:16 PM
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just jumped on and too lazy to scroll through all the pages.

am riding ace classics right now (44 on 8.5), getting bothered by the stability on ollies.

am debating to switch to venture or thunder

what's the consensus on 6.1 on 8.5? or is 5.8 the way to go?
difference between light's and regulars? the lights are lower, and i believe the hanger is a bit far back, thus extending the wb.

how does the wb on venture compare to thunders?
the turn vs. thunder and ace?

if you have any other info, comments etc. feel free to reply or pm.

thank you for your time and help
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I prefer 5.8s on 8.5s, lighter and a bit more nimble and you can always pad the axle with washers if you want a little more grind space.

If you get standard ventures with the cast baseplates, it'll probably feel a little less foreign as the wb isn't extended as much. Putting hollow/titanium hangers on the cast plates is very nice but definitely not necessary.

The wb on cast plates should be pretty similar to thunder on forged plates give or take a bit, and the wb on ventures with forged plates is a little longer than that.

Venture turn feels pretty similar to indys, but much slower, feels like they only really lean and don't max out like indys or aces but thats precisely why they feel so stable. Compared to thunders they turn slower too but are more stable and less twitchy, less wheelbitey.

No amount of tinkering will make ventures turn as well as ace, thats not the point of ventures. But agree that ace bushings, riptide pivot cups and flat top washers will make them feel very very good.

Personally, I'd say breaking in the stock bushings and putting a bones flat top washer is all you need to get them feeling great. The rest are very marginal improvements.

They should pinch a lot better than aces on crooked grinds etc too.

Dont be too worried about the lack of turn coming from aces if you're after stability though. A friend of mine went from aces to stock ventures, complained a little at first but got pretty used to the turn in a few days, and after he put flat washers on said it was great, no issues at all.

oh ok, thank you for the information and your replies!

am still hesitant, as i also use the deck as a filmer deck as times and am afraid the slower turn may be limiting to an extent.

hoping to find some irl with a similar set w/ ventures.

thanks again!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 25, 2022, 09:07:38 PM
I know you don’t want to hear it….trust me…no one does…but have you considered an Indy?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 25, 2022, 09:32:01 PM
I know you don’t want to hear it….trust me…no one does…but have you considered an Indy?

You're cruisin' for a brusin' with talk like that round these parts.

But I agree, Venture and Indy are fundamentally different trucks with Thunder splitting the difference. I'd always recommend Indy's for a cruiser / filmer board. Better turn, accommodates bigger wheels and weight is less of a factor.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 25, 2022, 10:04:03 PM
I know you don’t want to hear it….trust me…no one does…but have you considered an Indy?
(https://i.ibb.co/ynyxpYX/71844444-3-E2-C-40-E8-BD4-E-3349-AF914-F15.gif) (https://ibb.co/ynyxpYX)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on January 25, 2022, 10:12:16 PM
I know you don’t want to hear it….trust me…no one does…but have you considered an Indy?

honestly might be the move lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 25, 2022, 11:11:28 PM
You get the stability but still get a decent carve….they don’t mess with the wheelbase.  If you’ve skated an ace and the weight didn’t bother you, Indy’s are a solid choice. 

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: somedudefromnj on January 26, 2022, 08:39:02 AM
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That’s super weird, my Thunders turn on a fucking dime. They’re known for being twitchy and I run them stock tightness. Are you really light?
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That's the thing I'm a heavy bastard. My old ones turned perfect but the last set were so bad. Not sure if I got some bogus ones or maybe since they weren't raws or something. Idk
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I had the same issue with my Thunders, got a new set a couple years back and the turn sucked so I switched back to Ace.

Miss the pop and stability  :'(

Kinda funny you say this because I caved and bought some ventures, just skated em for a bit and it's the stability that's tripping me out. Aces spoiled me

But I'm loving the pop right now so Ill probably fuck my muscle memory up by constantly moving between setups
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on January 26, 2022, 10:38:54 AM
You get the stability but still get a decent carve….they don’t mess with the wheelbase.  If you’ve skated an ace and the weight didn’t bother you, Indy’s are a solid choice.

yeah but why get indy when any pinch trick is significantly more ass compared to the same trick on ventures

Also pop feel is very different - Indy pop lightly as a result of shorter WB and therefore it can be harder to "sense" the leverage of the board. Ventures have an advantage in that leverage is better achieved 

I like venture cuz on switch tricks like switch bs shuv and ollie I can get a stronger pop and pinch and i only skate street
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 26, 2022, 10:42:45 AM
My pinch on Indy Mids is the same as Ventures, neither as good as Thunder for me. To each their own tho, just try shit out. I'm the opposite of you I get weaker pop on Ventures and I dunno why, but I go with what ends up working.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: skateviewer on January 27, 2022, 03:34:00 PM
just bought some 5.8 vlights, coming off of mostly indy and some recent fucking around on the lurpivs. i did a lot of reading on the ventures before getting them, but after skating them today (totally stock, stock tightness) i realize what i read didnt necessarily give me a sense of what the switch would be like, so i wanted to share my thoughts for anyone considering.

first, i really like them. they feel amazing and so easy rolling up to something. ridiculously nice.

second, the turning on stock tightness is very unlike indy/lurpivs at medium-loose tightness. i really didnt get the instant direction shift, its more of a lean hard and youre still going forward just in a different direction.

pop / the usual tricks came within 30 mins, and then i was putting the same stuff down with some extra confidence. i suspect they are less fun to ride but will put me onto some new tricks cause of the confidence. for me, pushing for new tricks is a blast in skating so im cool with that.

overall, i really like them. i wouldnt put these on a cruiser at all but im gonna use these for my street set up from now on.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spicysk8rboi on January 28, 2022, 07:15:35 AM
has anyone noticed the Adrian pro editions have a standard baseplate and what looks like a hollow kingpin?


(https://i.ibb.co/2d8fs8P/FEED1-A9-D-AC3-B-4-D7-D-B265-3-C20-EA0-B4-CB1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2d8fs8P)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on January 28, 2022, 07:26:07 AM
has anyone noticed the Adrian pro editions have a standard baseplate and what looks like a hollow kingpin?


(https://i.ibb.co/2d8fs8P/FEED1-A9-D-AC3-B-4-D7-D-B265-3-C20-EA0-B4-CB1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2d8fs8P)

interesting, in the thumb it looks like it could just be the standard kp and the lighting is weird making the little divot look deeper than it is, but that larger pic really looks hollow. i know there are a few sourcing issues, and i want to say someone mentioned venture having to go with black nuts or something recently so i wonder if the black kp is related to that or an actual design choice, since the hollow is usually just silver/polished &#129300;
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on January 28, 2022, 08:25:41 AM
has anyone noticed the Adrian pro editions have a standard baseplate and what looks like a hollow kingpin?


(https://i.ibb.co/2d8fs8P/FEED1-A9-D-AC3-B-4-D7-D-B265-3-C20-EA0-B4-CB1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2d8fs8P)
i noticed this as well, but other pics and the catalog show them as just standard cast
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: left knee cap on January 28, 2022, 08:59:32 AM
anyone mess with the Venture Hollows? how they fair against Thunder Hollow Lights?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Jonny7.5Alive on January 29, 2022, 12:12:41 AM
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has anyone noticed the Adrian pro editions have a standard baseplate and what looks like a hollow kingpin?


(https://i.ibb.co/2d8fs8P/FEED1-A9-D-AC3-B-4-D7-D-B265-3-C20-EA0-B4-CB1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2d8fs8P)
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i noticed this as well, but other pics and the catalog show them as just standard cast

Yeah I think it's just the lighting in the picture. Shame. I'm on cast 5.2 lows at the moment but I'm having trouble with some flip tricks. Specifically Tre flips, after switching over from hollows. My legs are too old.

Really want to support Del Campo though. He's the man.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on January 29, 2022, 02:08:15 PM
anyone mess with the Venture Hollows? how they fair against Thunder Hollow Lights?

I went from Hollow Light thunders to Venture Lights (Hollow kingpin) 3 years ago and have felt so much better ever since. I did just acquire 5.2 Hollow Light Lows that I'm going to set up next board that have the hollow axel as well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 30, 2022, 02:36:42 AM
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anyone mess with the Venture Hollows? how they fair against Thunder Hollow Lights?
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I went from Hollow Light thunders to Venture Lights (Hollow kingpin) 3 years ago and have felt so much better ever since. I did just acquire 5.2 Hollow Light Lows that I'm going to set up next board that have the hollow axel as well.

Depends on the setup, Thunder HL if I rode a 8.5 or a heavier setup (chunky wheels, thicker deck) to lighten up the setup. Venture V-Hollow was my go-to for 8.25 decks, right amount of heft.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 30, 2022, 08:49:58 AM
I rode thunder team hollows a bunch, the venture hollows just seem normal…..a bit more weight for sure but nothing like an Ace or even stock Indy’s.  To me it was more of a height difference that I noticed.  To me it’s an easy transition….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on January 30, 2022, 07:35:49 PM
weird how almost no pro that venture makes a pro graphic for skates hollows

I dont really see many pros skating the hollow offerings from Venture much anyway
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: juniormint on January 31, 2022, 12:20:03 AM
anyone mess with the Venture Hollows? how they fair against Thunder Hollow Lights?

Also wondering about this. My 151 lights are nearing an end and I want to try 6.1s. Unsure of whether to cop standards or go for the v-hollow. Leaning toward the raws. Usually I ride 55-58mm wheels, always on 1/8 risers with the thunders.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murray Hewitt on January 31, 2022, 12:21:22 AM
I’ve been running forged 5.6 with Riptide pivot cups and flat top washer for the last few months. Was on various Thunder’s for about 10 years before that. I love the Venture stability but sometimes the longer wheelbase and heft required for pop can make the session a bit more effort than I’d like to give. I had a go on a friends Ace’s and it threw me how fun they felt but could see the squirrel factor getting a bit hard for certain tricks. Proper madness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on January 31, 2022, 04:47:36 AM
weird how almost no pro that venture makes a pro graphic for skates hollows

I dont really see many pros skating the hollow offerings from Venture much anyway
I think P Rod skates the hollow. Also I think they sell the V Light and Hollow just raw silver, you just have to take the sticker out. I’ve only ridden hi standard but am interested in the 1mm lower height.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on January 31, 2022, 05:09:22 PM
The madness is getting to me and i think my pop is not where it could be. I'm riding 5.6 v hollows or 5.8 v hollows occasionally. Thinking about getting some of the wooden venture risers. Anyone running risers on. their ventures ever? Whats the scoop
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 31, 2022, 05:48:58 PM
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weird how almost no pro that venture makes a pro graphic for skates hollows

I dont really see many pros skating the hollow offerings from Venture much anyway
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I think P Rod skates the hollow. Also I think they sell the V Light and Hollow just raw silver, you just have to take the sticker out. I’ve only ridden hi standard but am interested in the 1mm lower height.

Isn’t his pro model a ti
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Knee Pain on February 02, 2022, 05:37:41 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/P1w05MW/venture.jpg)

went for the 90a supercush with flat washers, not had a proper skate on them yet but the turn and stability already feels way better than my stock purples which basically got shredded up by the stock washers.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on February 02, 2022, 11:09:34 AM
Hey, for those that run the forged plates, what setup works for you? I normally run cast and the mason shape I’ve been skating seems like the tail is too short. What’s the secret to making them work? Or should I just go back to cast
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on February 02, 2022, 11:15:53 AM
Hey, for those that run the forged plates, what setup works for you? I normally run cast and the mason shape I’ve been skating seems like the tail is too short. What’s the secret to making them work? Or should I just go back to cast
i'm running cast plates at the moment on 14.25" WB, but from my experience, forged plates shine on 14" WB or smaller. i really liked pairing forged plates with crailtap boards so maybe explore those shapes or if you have any 14" WB decks on hand, try that out first and see how it feels
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on February 02, 2022, 11:20:16 AM
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Hey, for those that run the forged plates, what setup works for you? I normally run cast and the mason shape I’ve been skating seems like the tail is too short. What’s the secret to making them work? Or should I just go back to cast
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i'm running cast plates at the moment on 14.25" WB, but from my experience, forged plates shine on 14" WB or smaller. i really liked pairing forged plates with crailtap boards so maybe explore those shapes or if you have any 14" WB decks on hand, try that out first and see how it feels
I have a few old crail decks I could set up and see, I figured a 14 inch wheelbase would even stuff out
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on February 02, 2022, 11:29:47 AM
I finally got my Ventures loose and surfy enough with some soft Doh-doh's. I was about to give up on them and finally i remember why i loved those trucks in the past.

Currently running forged plates on 14,25" wb. Now that my trucks turn i love it but otherwise i would say go for 14".
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on February 02, 2022, 12:27:10 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/P1w05MW/venture.jpg)

went for the 90a supercush with flat washers, not had a proper skate on them yet but the turn and stability already feels way better than my stock purples which basically got shredded up by the stock washers.

Wide wheels check
Limosine board AND sticker check
Ventures modded to actually turn check
Bronze hardware check

You have passed the 2021/2 cool guy setup test.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 02, 2022, 12:47:44 PM
for those who want "surfier" ventures, go with softer bushings
the stability will still be there unless your bushings are 5 gum
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on February 02, 2022, 04:08:35 PM
Said fuck it and order a Jordan trahan chocolate because I remember liking the g052 shape with ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 02, 2022, 05:34:29 PM
I’m starting to believe that bones not having a top washer is possibly the main reason why people like them…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on February 03, 2022, 08:07:38 AM
I went for the Indy Conical 90(Duro? blanking on the ratings for bushings). The medium ones.
With a standard washer on the bottom and flat bones on the top. Feeling fantastic.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 05, 2022, 11:05:23 AM
What decks you like best with venture highs ?

Will setup new ventures with a hockey deck next.  Anyone has skated that combo?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 05, 2022, 01:36:45 PM
What decks you like best with venture highs ?

Will setup new ventures with a hockey deck next.  Anyone has skated that combo?
I like ‘em best on boards that are 31.75 to 32 in length with a 14.25 wheelbase, with a nose and tail that are both on the mellower side with a bit more leeway on the fingers of flat.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on February 05, 2022, 02:11:40 PM
What decks you like best with venture highs ?

Will setup new ventures with a hockey deck next.  Anyone has skated that combo?

idk why i like feeling higher off the ground so venture on 55mm wheels on FA is too much ghost pop for me personally

usually I prefer mellow decks for ventures and tallish wheels - like medium steep kicks but steep works when wheels wear down to 52-54mm sometimes (really depends on nose/tail length, wheelbase, etc) but I do find that kick steepness matters a lot (which I even found annoying on FA/Hockey on aces) 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 06, 2022, 03:05:38 AM
Ok this was why I asked - somebody said steep decks are not a good choice with ventures and now you say it too.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 06, 2022, 03:24:25 AM
ive run santa cruz and hockey boards on ventures and its good
more like "can you handle it?"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Jonny7.5Alive on February 06, 2022, 05:25:35 AM
What decks you like best with venture highs ?

Will setup new ventures with a hockey deck next.  Anyone has skated that combo?

Hockey 8" with venture low 5.2 is the best combo I've ever skated. It's just perfect. Something to do with how steep the kicks are and the low trucks.

Don't know why I strayed from it. I'm just not into the image aesthetic of the brand.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 06, 2022, 07:14:23 AM
Let’s see how it works.


I wanted to try 14“ wheelbase with the high ventures , cause I heard it’s a good combo, but now I heard that steep kicks / ventures are not for everyone &#129335;&#127995;‍♂️

I’ll find out.


Then again there’s pros on Venture and hockey too, or people who don’t skate short wheelbase with them (like Kader)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 06, 2022, 07:41:29 AM
I had 5.6 cast high on a FA 8.25 and the pop feel was too heavy for my taste. I liked it for a few things but overall it was a forgettable setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on February 06, 2022, 10:26:51 PM
I had 5.6 cast high on a FA 8.25 and the pop feel was too heavy for my taste. I liked it for a few things but overall it was a forgettable setup.

yeah, shit, I mean I get ghost pop on 53mm wheels + ace + steep decks, so ventures are a "strong, focused pop" kinda truck for sure.

I like that the stability of ventures allows you to feel a tad more comfortable when you pop harder and higher though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 10, 2022, 12:52:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/bEsxJOd.jpg)

Couple sets from the past 18 months or so. I definitely skate the best on venture, but they grind down a lot quicker than say indys.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 10, 2022, 01:01:23 AM
I always wonder how much I should grind them down til getting new ones
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 10, 2022, 02:01:03 AM


Couple sets from the past 18 months or so. I definitely skate the best on venture, but they grind down a lot quicker than say indys.


That is amazing.

I guess compared to how I skate nowdays (and nothing ever breaks / goes to axle / wears out) or however many others that definitely don't go that hard, seeing something like that is mighty fine.

I feel like those are the sort of trucks I would have for show and tell, so when someone comes in and says their trucks are barely scratched and they need new ones (which used to happen way too often), I would show them those and say if your trucks don't look like that, you need to go skate some more.

Might be counter productive trying to sell things in a shop environment, but they sure do look well used.  Anything in particular you always skate or do that makes them end up like that?

Clearly crooked grinds / nose slides looking at the hanger and baseplates, but is there a super rough spot or something that just eats the trucks where you are?


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 10, 2022, 03:32:15 AM
Already asked in another thread , but probably better to ask here:


Are habitat and AWS decks in your opinion too steep for high ventures? What about quasi? GX? Are those on the steeper side too?

Edit: let’s add madness.

And what tail/nose length do you like best with high ventures ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goingapelikenigo on February 10, 2022, 04:23:41 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/bEsxJOd.jpg)

Couple sets from the past 18 months or so. I definitely skate the best on venture, but they grind down a lot quicker than say indys.
so beautiful  :o
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on February 10, 2022, 07:20:12 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/bEsxJOd.jpg)

Couple sets from the past 18 months or so. I definitely skate the best on venture, but they grind down a lot quicker than say indys.
man's a beast
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on February 10, 2022, 09:29:47 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/bEsxJOd.jpg)

Couple sets from the past 18 months or so. I definitely skate the best on venture, but they grind down a lot quicker than say indys.

Love to see this, but I gotta ask, wtf were you doing to that set right in the middle that exposed all that axel in the center of the truck but not on the sides where most people hit axel first?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 10, 2022, 09:41:05 AM
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Couple sets from the past 18 months or so. I definitely skate the best on venture, but they grind down a lot quicker than say indys.
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That is amazing.

I guess compared to how I skate nowdays (and nothing ever breaks / goes to axle / wears out) or however many others that definitely don't go that hard, seeing something like that is mighty fine.

I feel like those are the sort of trucks I would have for show and tell, so when someone comes in and says their trucks are barely scratched and they need new ones (which used to happen way too often), I would show them those and say if your trucks don't look like that, you need to go skate some more.

Might be counter productive trying to sell things in a shop environment, but they sure do look well used.  Anything in particular you always skate or do that makes them end up like that?

Clearly crooked grinds / nose slides looking at the hanger and baseplates, but is there a super rough spot or something that just eats the trucks where you are?

Long nose/tail slides of different sorts amongst different grinds on shitty ledges, and slappies do the bulk of the damage. Sometimes I hit pivot cup before I hit axle (crook axle doesnt count) which is why Iv had to skate two baseplates for one hanger and cycle things out differently.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 10, 2022, 09:41:45 AM
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Couple sets from the past 18 months or so. I definitely skate the best on venture, but they grind down a lot quicker than say indys.
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Love to see this, but I gotta ask, wtf were you doing to that set right in the middle that exposed all that axel in the center of the truck but not on the sides where most people hit axel first?

Lol actually have no idea. It might be because I ran some pretty wide wheels on those ones but honestly not sure.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on February 10, 2022, 09:56:57 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/bEsxJOd.jpg)

Couple sets from the past 18 months or so. I definitely skate the best on venture, but they grind down a lot quicker than say indys.

BEAUTIFUL
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 10, 2022, 05:24:00 PM
I say we name @tzhangdox the King of the Venture 2020 thread until someone beats his record of 4 pairs (I count 8 baseplates), all hitting axle.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: icetheknees on February 11, 2022, 02:55:15 PM
After reading way too much about the lack of replacement Venture bushings, I finally just put Bones Hards in my V-Hollow Lows and they work great. I wish I did it sooner. The bottom Bones bushing is the same height as the combined height of the stock barrel and round washer. You do not need a bottom washer with Bones. The top Bones bushing plus the included flat washer is only taller by the height of the flat washer. So tightening the nut down flush is like going one rung past flush on the stock bushing; not a big deal. I'm 6'2" and almost 200 lbs so that plus hards works great for me. The turning is significantly improved with the conical bottom bushing over the stock barrel and they still feel super stable. At my size this feels like a medium tightness setup. If you're unhappy with your turn maybe try a Bones duro appropriate for your size with the understanding that flush nut = one rung past stock flush.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LewFarrell on February 11, 2022, 08:08:19 PM
After reading way too much about the lack of replacement Venture bushings, I finally just put Bones Hards in my V-Hollow Lows and they work great. I wish I did it sooner. The bottom Bones bushing is the same height as the combined height of the stock barrel and round washer. You do not need a bottom washer with Bones. The top Bones bushing plus the included flat washer is only taller by the height of the flat washer. So tightening the nut down flush is like going one rung past flush on the stock bushing; not a big deal. I'm 6'2" and almost 200 lbs so that plus hards works great for me. The turning is significantly improved with the conical bottom bushing over the stock barrel and they still feel super stable. At my size this feels like a medium tightness setup. If you're unhappy with your turn maybe try a Bones duro appropriate for your size with the understanding that flush nut = one rung past stock flush.

I rock ventures and hards, imo you can go either way with the bottom washer. Venture bottom stock including washer is 14.5mm, bones hards are 13.85mm with no washer and 15mm with the round washer. Bones hards compress a bit over time so using the flat washer will keep you closest to stock. Personal preference in this one though really, I use the washer underneath with Lo's and no washer underneath with Hi's.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 11, 2022, 09:19:18 PM
Indy aftermarkets also work great in ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: skateviewer on February 12, 2022, 06:07:07 PM
just wanted to run some truck madness by you guys,

recently got some 5.8 lights, and ive tried them out on a few decks (all 8.5, but with 14, 14.25, and 14.5 wbs) and they feel great on the 14.5 wheelbase and terrible on everything else.

everything i understand about wheelbase and the way the forged plate ventures draw it out further makes me think it should feel really weird, but it's awesome. thought? am i crazy?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: freidnly guy on February 13, 2022, 01:10:40 PM
just wanted to run some truck madness by you guys,

The only deck I have really preferred my 5.8s on is a mellow 14.75wb. Longer boards can use the additional pop, imo the shorter the wb the more fingers of flat needed.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TheSickness on February 13, 2022, 08:29:10 PM
I'm trying to switch to Venture again after riding Indy for a few years,  I want to get the right ones - I want the 6.1 size and I'd like them to be low and as light as possible.  I saw on the Venture site that there's a difference between red bushings and the purple bushings- I can't recall but I believe one is high and one is low....then my other problem is I can't figure out if theres a difference between V-lights and the V-light Hollows...I can't seem to locate a single blog post, website or  YouTube video what's the difference (if any) - at this point I'm ready to bail and ride Thunder or Indy since they make everything so much simpler to grasp!!
Hoping to get an answer here!!

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 13, 2022, 08:34:53 PM
They don’t make a 6.1 low. Bushing color doesn’t indicate height.

V-lights always have forged plates which are lower by 1mm and stretch the WB out slightly. Hollows add a hollow axle and kingpin and are lighter. Tactics usually has accurate measurements if you want to compare. IIRC someone said the 6.1 stretch the WB out less than the other sizes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: juniormint on February 13, 2022, 11:14:35 PM
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just wanted to run some truck madness by you guys,

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The only deck I have really preferred my 5.8s on is a mellow 14.75wb. Longer boards can use the additional pop, imo the shorter the wb the more fingers of flat needed.

I’m new to Ventures and currently riding my first set of 6.1s on a 14.75wb, it is actually great, although I’m on the taller side. Pop feel is amazing, flatground is nice it definitely feels like there’s more pop, manuals are also much easier. This is coming from thunder 151 lights. And I can confirm that the ventures pull in the wb a touch, in comparison to the thunders.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Silky Johnson on February 13, 2022, 11:35:34 PM
Been hesitant on setting up a new magenta deck w/ a 14.5 wb because I've only ridden my 5.8 His on 14.25. glad to see the longer wheelbases have worked well for some of you dudes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on February 15, 2022, 12:41:19 AM
I was considering getting a set of Venture 5.8s or 6.1s (standards) since I've been seeing them on sale lately. I normally run my trucks medium loose (carvy enough for slappies, nowhere near jiggly loose though). What are the biggest wheels y'all have run on these. I'm not opposed to using 1/8" risers btw
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 15, 2022, 03:51:01 AM
I was considering getting a set of Venture 5.8s or 6.1s (standards) since I've been seeing them on sale lately. I normally run my trucks medium loose (carvy enough for slappies, nowhere near jiggly loose though). What are the biggest wheels y'all have run on these. I'm not opposed to using 1/8" risers btw

A guy I know skates 5.8 with 56 and sometimes 58 mm wheels, minimal to no risers, fairly loose trucks.  Certainly see a lot of wheel bite on his board, but he said it doesn't seem to bother him as much as people might think.

I am about to get some used Venture trucks in bigger sizes - shipped and awaiting delivery later this week, all going well - so am curious to see what I can go up to on them.

A couple of boards that I have made wheel wells are going to be my test to see if I can get 60mm cruiser wheels on Ventures with minimal risers and still have them turn as much as I like for that sort of rolling, as well as normal skating on whatever size wheel I can get on there.  Should be fun.

Will let you know.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on February 15, 2022, 07:48:49 AM
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I was considering getting a set of Venture 5.8s or 6.1s (standards) since I've been seeing them on sale lately. I normally run my trucks medium loose (carvy enough for slappies, nowhere near jiggly loose though). What are the biggest wheels y'all have run on these. I'm not opposed to using 1/8" risers btw
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A guy I know skates 5.8 with 56 and sometimes 58 mm wheels, minimal to no risers, fairly loose trucks.  Certainly see a lot of wheel bite on his board, but he said it doesn't seem to bother him as much as people might think.

I am about to get some used Venture trucks in bigger sizes - shipped and awaiting delivery later this week, all going well - so am curious to see what I can go up to on them.

A couple of boards that I have made wheel wells are going to be my test to see if I can get 60mm cruiser wheels on Ventures with minimal risers and still have them turn as much as I like for that sort of rolling, as well as normal skating on whatever size wheel I can get on there.  Should be fun.

Will let you know.

Great thank you!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on February 15, 2022, 09:02:40 AM
I'm heavy and although Ventures don't wheelbite as bad as Thunders, they definitely wheelbite worse than Ace or Indy for me. 1/8" risers and 52mm wheels is what I have to ride with Venture standards. If I go upwards of 54mm the wheelbite is pretty significant.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Acky Jacky on February 15, 2022, 10:07:58 AM
I ride 52-54 mm wheels and barely have issues with wheelbite on Venture, I’m only 160 pounds and definitely have plenty of wheelbite marks, but I never considered it an issue compared to other brands.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on February 15, 2022, 10:21:08 AM
the wheelbite convo is so interesting to me.  i get the least wheelbite on ventures of any truck.  i normally am rocking 54mm wheels on a cast 5.8 plate, ti hanger, flat top washer and riptide cups. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 15, 2022, 10:47:29 AM
Everyone seems to have differing degrees of tolerance for how much wheelbite is okay. I'm running 5.8s medium loose, probably ever so slightly on the looser side for my weight but nowhere near jiggly. Got some 54mm 97a classics on right now and its not an issue at all. I have giant wheelbite marks on all my boards which some people may see as a big problem but rarely does it actually catch and stop me from rolling away from a trick.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 15, 2022, 03:40:34 PM
Ventures do wheelbite for sure, but I don’t get bucked like I did with thunders…..it’s the angle of contact.  That said, Aces/Indy’s definitely are a better choice, also I’m referring to 5.6’s vs 148/44’s/144’s….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Silky Johnson on February 15, 2022, 06:59:47 PM
Ventures do bite for me, but I have to really be of balanced for it to actually snag to the point I am thrown forward. I'm a pretty big dude and like my trucks loose-ish, but have found that for the instances I do lean too much to one side a little wax in the wheel wells goes a long way.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on February 15, 2022, 09:52:37 PM
For some reason my last post isn't showing up, but just wanted to say thanks all for the input! I was planning on running 5.8 or 6.1 standards with 1/8 risers and 56 conical fulls at medium loose and it seems like the general consensus is that it will work alright. For reference, I'm definitely overweight but considering I'm a short dude, wheel bite shouldn't be bad at all.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 16, 2022, 02:32:29 AM
For some reason my last post isn't showing up, but just wanted to say thanks all for the input! I was planning on running 5.8 or 6.1 standards with 1/8 risers and 56 conical fulls at medium loose and it seems like the general consensus is that it will work alright. For reference, I'm definitely overweight but considering I'm a short dude, wheel bite shouldn't be bad at all.

I did 97a 56 conical fulls on some 5.8 v-lights (forged baseplates so even lower) once and honestly the wheelbite was pretty manageable. If you dont want the extra height, its definitely worth trying it with no risers. Wax up the wheelbite area a little bit and see if it works.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 16, 2022, 07:14:37 AM
^dude you shouldn’t be posting at 2:32 go to sleep so you can skate the courthouse with me at sunrise.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 16, 2022, 10:08:56 AM
not a chance
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Justrollingthru on February 16, 2022, 08:53:59 PM
I found some 90's baseplates in my toolbox that must've been from high school, decided to try out the Krux DLK and slapped some 6.1 hangers on there. Once I'm healed from my back injury, it's on! The kingpin swap was so easy, just like putting in a grindking in back in the day.

(https://i.imgur.com/vUIWEtC.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/ZWGWzV2.jpg)


Will this work with the vlights forged baseplates or the normal ventures with cast baseplate? Can I do this with any ventures?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 16, 2022, 09:06:35 PM
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I found some 90's baseplates in my toolbox that must've been from high school, decided to try out the Krux DLK and slapped some 6.1 hangers on there. Once I'm healed from my back injury, it's on! The kingpin swap was so easy, just like putting in a grindking in back in the day.

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Will this work with the vlights forged baseplates or the normal ventures with cast baseplate? Can I do this with any ventures?

I just dug up a whole box of old Ventures and other trucks, almost all of which had the old "normal" hex head kingpin and not the hammered in flat round new kingpins.

The old ones were easy enough to get out and put in, as they had the hex head scored into the baseplate area, so you could put in a nut easily enough there too.

The newer ones do not have that sort of shape and you have to hammer the existing kingpin out first, which can take a whole lot more effort than it should and then you have to use something to fix the hex head in there as it is just a round space - usually weld or something, which can come loose as per others in the truck thread.


I had heard some very new versions of some trucks will now come with a hex space built into the baseplate but I am not sure who has them, or if they are widespread or just in a few places right now, so the best thing is to check the baseplate first and see if it has that option, otherwise the many pages of the truck thread will have all sorts of info on how to invert a kingpin into a modern plate with a DIY locking process.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Justrollingthru on February 16, 2022, 09:12:34 PM
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I found some 90's baseplates in my toolbox that must've been from high school, decided to try out the Krux DLK and slapped some 6.1 hangers on there. Once I'm healed from my back injury, it's on! The kingpin swap was so easy, just like putting in a grindking in back in the day.

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Will this work with the vlights forged baseplates or the normal ventures with cast baseplate? Can I do this with any ventures?
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The newer ones do not have that sort of shape and you have to hammer the existing kingpin out first, which can take a whole lot more effort than it should and then you have to use something to fix the hex head in there as it is just a round space - usually weld or something, which can come loose as per others in the truck thread.




Okay so it may be possible with the right tools. Shit man I would love some ventures with inverted pins.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 17, 2022, 05:05:50 AM
Anybody knows what pros, who ride for venture, setups look like? Would be interesting.

Kader for example. Does he ride low or high ventures? I doubt he rides 14“ wheelbase too, like many say would be optimum with ventures. I don’t see any baker decks with a 14“ Wb, at least 8+.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on February 17, 2022, 05:42:29 AM
Anybody knows what pros, who ride for venture, setups look like? Would be interesting.

Kader for example. Does he ride low or high ventures? I doubt he rides 14“ wheelbase too, like many say would be optimum with ventures. I don’t see any baker decks with a 14“ Wb, at least 8+.

He rides highs with risers to fit those big ol wheels. 58-60mm. I know he rides 8.5 decks now. So assuming the WB is at least 14.25, that's got to be one of the heaviest pop feeling setups ever. He's young though, and approaching his prime, taking full advantage of those legs before he gets old haha.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on February 17, 2022, 07:47:51 AM
Anybody knows what pros, who ride for venture, setups look like? Would be interesting.

Kader for example. Does he ride low or high ventures? I doubt he rides 14“ wheelbase too, like many say would be optimum with ventures. I don’t see any baker decks with a 14“ Wb, at least 8+.

The main reasoning in why most people say 14" wb is optimum with ventures because you'll get a better turn feeling (highly subjective btw lol), but also the wb combination would be similar to say indys on 14.25-14.5" wb. The change won't feel as drastic if you're on indy/aces and go to ventures paired with a shorter wb deck. I've ridden cast ventures on baker 8" (14.25" wb) a handful of times and didn't have any complaints, but I would still prefer a 14" wb lol

others feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but from what I've seen
Yuto: 5.2 cast los with bones bushings on 8" april (or the 8.125 that Shane rides)
Karl Watson: 5.2 cast his with bones bushings on 8" maxallure
Phillip Santosuosso: stock 5.6 cast his on 8" cash only
P.Rod: stock 5.6 cast his on 8.25" primitive
Dilo: stock 6.1 cast on almost 8.5" but I've seen him ride hollows too

I'm curious to know what Bobby Worrest, Will Marshall, and Vincent Touzery ride.
My guess is Bobby rides 5.2 his or 5.6 cast on 8.38 twin, Will rides 5.2 or 5.6, and Vince rides 5.6 or 5.8 cast
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 17, 2022, 08:25:37 AM
Anybody knows what pros, who ride for venture, setups look like? Would be interesting.

Kader for example. Does he ride low or high ventures? I doubt he rides 14“ wheelbase too, like many say would be optimum with ventures. I don’t see any baker decks with a 14“ Wb, at least 8+.
I think he rides the 8.475 shape that 75% of the rest of the baker/deathwish team ride, so 14.25 wheelbase.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on February 17, 2022, 08:47:51 AM
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Anybody knows what pros, who ride for venture, setups look like? Would be interesting.

Kader for example. Does he ride low or high ventures? I doubt he rides 14“ wheelbase too, like many say would be optimum with ventures. I don’t see any baker decks with a 14“ Wb, at least 8+.
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I think he rides the 8.475 shape that 75% of the rest of the baker/deathwish team ride, so 14.25 wheelbase.

And no risers anymore, considering the footage from last year. So probably standard high cast 5.8s or 6.1s, as those were his pro model trucks...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on February 17, 2022, 10:33:30 AM
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Anybody knows what pros, who ride for venture, setups look like? Would be interesting.

Kader for example. Does he ride low or high ventures? I doubt he rides 14“ wheelbase too, like many say would be optimum with ventures. I don’t see any baker decks with a 14“ Wb, at least 8+.
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The main reasoning in why most people say 14" wb is optimum with ventures because you'll get a better turn feeling (highly subjective btw lol), but also the wb combination would be similar to say indys on 14.25-14.5" wb. The change won't feel as drastic if you're on indy/aces and go to ventures paired with a shorter wb deck. I've ridden cast ventures on baker 8" (14.25" wb) a handful of times and didn't have any complaints, but I would still prefer a 14" wb lol

others feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but from what I've seen
Yuto: 5.2 cast los with bones bushings on 8" april (or the 8.125 that Shane rides)
Karl Watson: 5.2 cast his with bones bushings on 8" maxallure
Phillip Santosuosso: stock 5.6 cast his on 8" cash only
P.Rod: stock 5.6 cast his on 8.25" primitive
Dilo: stock 6.1 cast on almost 8.5" but I've seen him ride hollows too

I'm curious to know what Bobby Worrest, Will Marshall, and Vincent Touzery ride.
My guess is Bobby rides 5.2 his or 5.6 cast on 8.38 twin, Will rides 5.2 or 5.6, and Vince rides 5.6 or 5.8 cast
Bobby rides 5.2 his on the ishod 8.3 twin tail.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 17, 2022, 11:49:53 AM
I have asked Bobby and he told me both 5.6 and 5.8 on his twin tails, riding 5.8s before they made the 5.6. Karl rides an 8.25 with 5.2 or 5.6 Bones Medium or Hard, just got the Hi but was still using Lo for a while. Will Marshall skates for Thunder so presumably he rides nothing made by Venture. Gilbert is on 5.6 Hi. Kader rocks 6.1s on a Baker 8.5. Tim O'Connor 5.2 Hi, Gino has 5.2 Lo.

You don't have to ride Ventures with a short WB just like you don't have to ride Indy with a long one. Jordan Trahan is on Ace and skates a 14" WB and skates fast. Plenty of dudes on Venture are on 14.25-14.5. Just because a total effective WB you had on one setup was solid doesn't mean you can just get the same effective one on another by picking trucks. They will still pop a bit different, pinch different, turn different, and how you weight your board will change due to the differing responses.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on February 17, 2022, 12:16:00 PM
I have asked Bobby and he told me both 5.6 and 5.8 on his twin tails, riding 5.8s before they made the 5.6. Karl rides an 8.25 with 5.2 or 5.6 Bones Medium or Hard, just got the Hi but was still using Lo for a while. Will Marshall skates for Thunder so presumably he rides nothing made by Venture. Gilbert is on 5.6 Hi. Kader rocks 6.1s on a Baker 8.5. Tim O'Connor 5.2 Hi, Gino has 5.2 Lo.

You don't have to ride Ventures with a short WB just like you don't have to ride Indy with a long one. Jordan Trahan is on Ace and skates a 14" WB and skates fast. Plenty of dudes on Venture are on 14.25-14.5. Just because a total effective WB you had on one setup was solid doesn't mean you can just get the same effective one on another by picking trucks. They will still pop a bit different, pinch different, turn different, and how you weight your board will change due to the differing responses.

Will Marshall is following Venture and not Thunder, most of his recent footage has been on Ventures so it seems he made the switch not too long ago. You make some valid points though and I was just saying that the change wouldn't be as drastic if you try to maintain the total effective WB (it's definitely a good starting point when switching truck brands and feeling out the differences in turn, pinch and pop). Of course different trucks will always feel different regardless. At the end of the day, skate whatever works for you.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 17, 2022, 12:56:10 PM
How many of these guys even know what wheelbase even is…..

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Justrollingthru on February 17, 2022, 04:37:31 PM
I just bought a pair of 5.6 vlights and without even thinking about it also copped some ace performance pivot cups.

Do y'all know if these cups will fit the ventures?

I'm seeing mixed messages. some say they will some say they won't.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 17, 2022, 06:46:53 PM
I just bought a pair of 5.6 vlights and without even thinking about it also copped some ace performance pivot cups.

Do y'all know if these cups will fit the ventures?

I'm seeing mixed messages. some say they will some say they won't.


Until the stock product actually breaks or has issues, I wouldn't be changing anything out of the new trucks.

Bushings I can understand if you wanted harder bushings / tighter trucks, but pivot cups don't need to change at all, even though some people might tell you otherwise, it is just personal opinion.

Best thing to do if you already have them and don't want to return them is pull out the ones that are in the trucks and compare size, shape or even put them in and see if it makes a difference.


I haven't seen the newer Ace pivot cups, but the older ones were still the same generic shape and fit into other brands easily, but that is going back a while.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 17, 2022, 06:52:54 PM
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Do the krux down lo kingpins fit in venture
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Yes, but you have to JB weld the nut in. Here’s a pic, I fucked it up the first time, but got it right this time. Only skated them twice but they feel good. Feel free to PM me if you want details on how to make them work.

(https://i.ibb.co/Gv4j26B/8-C7-D7-BCF-C251-4-A89-8-C43-77136-C28-EEE7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Gv4j26B)(https://i.ibb.co/hgKjNHb/E811107-A-FDA4-47-EB-BEEB-5-CCA1-DA9995-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hgKjNHb)


@Justrollingthru   For you.  Initially tried looking up INVERTED in the search but then tried WELD and these came up, so yes it is totally possible.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 18, 2022, 10:07:08 AM
Got my venture highs now.

Sorry for asking stupid questions, but after 20 years of no skating (tight trucks back then) I wonder how tight your ventures are? You ride them out of the box tight? You make them loser? Tighter ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on February 18, 2022, 10:31:32 AM
Got my venture highs now.

Sorry for asking stupid questions, but after 20 years of no skating (tight trucks back then) I wonder how tight your ventures are? You ride them out of the box tight? You make them loser? Tighter ?

front truck stock (no thread if any are showing)
back truck .5/1 thread showing/flush it's just slightly tighter than stock, maybe quarter turn??
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 18, 2022, 03:09:31 PM
Tight trucks are now frowned upon….high trucks and wide boards are celebrated…..

Welcome back….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Royalty on February 18, 2022, 03:29:22 PM
I did read through all 80-something pages of this thread, but have recently gotten my first pair of venture 5.2lo. They are the standards with cast baseplates. I’d be curious to know if there is a concise albeit subjective pro/con list that y’all with experience can offer. I have skated them a bit myself but not enough to form a good opinion as it’s been only flat ground and small ledges so far. I haven’t heard much about them in a mini ramp or on rails. I get why they’re uncommon in actual transition haha. Thanks in advanced for any wisdom! Side note: I’m especially curious about them paired with certain wheelbases as well as steep vs mellow kicks and fingers of flat. I’m full on mad.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 18, 2022, 03:30:35 PM
I did read through all 80-something pages of this thread, but have recently gotten my first pair of venture 5.2lo. They are the standards with cast baseplates. I’d be curious to know if there is a concise albeit subjective pro/con list that y’all with experience can offer. I have skated them a bit myself but not enough to form a good opinion as it’s been only flat ground and small ledges so far. I haven’t heard much about them in a mini ramp or on rails. I get why they’re uncommon in actual transition haha. Thanks in advanced for any wisdom! Side note: I’m especially curious about them paired with certain wheelbases as well as steep vs mellow kicks and fingers of flat. I’m full on mad.

If they feel fine, don't think about it. They are good trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 18, 2022, 04:14:19 PM
If you want to try to see what highs feel like, risers with the Lo will get you there although they will turn a bit different.

Brandon Westgate still uses Lo's and has zero trouble with it. It's really what you get used to.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 18, 2022, 04:09:29 PM
If you want to try to see what highs feel like, risers with the Lo will get you there although they will turn a bit different.

Brandon Westgate still uses Lo's and has zero trouble with it. It's really what you get used to.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on February 19, 2022, 04:04:54 AM
That time of the year again:
Gonna be sizing up to 8.5. Gonna go with cast Venture His, since I love bigger wheels (55+).
Heard a lot of talk about 6.1s being different than 5.8s – in addition to being a wider truck of course... any recommendations from 6.1/5.8 users?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on February 19, 2022, 04:57:17 AM
Love to see if anyone’s got the inverted pin on forged plates to work....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on February 19, 2022, 05:16:57 AM
That time of the year again:
Gonna be sizing up to 8.5. Gonna go with cast Venture His, since I love bigger wheels (55+).
Heard a lot of talk about 6.1s being different than 5.8s – in addition to being a wider truck of course... any recommendations from 6.1/5.8 users?

Get slightly harder bushings (like 95a instead of what’s usually assumed to be 90a stock) then they feel like normal V’s - all good.

Think the wider hanger just gives too much press on the regular duro - if you like a happy medium tightness I couldn’t get it with stock, was flopping all over.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: somedudefromnj on February 19, 2022, 05:38:56 AM
Slapped some soft bones bushings in my ventures, and cranked em pretty down. They feel perfect now with a good amount of turn

Bought the mediums too just in case but glad I have backups even though theyre probably completely different
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 19, 2022, 07:25:50 AM
Love to see if anyone’s got the inverted pin on forged plates to work....

I had a hard time getting cast thunders with a Krux down lo going….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on February 19, 2022, 04:19:14 PM
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That time of the year again:
Gonna be sizing up to 8.5. Gonna go with cast Venture His, since I love bigger wheels (55+).
Heard a lot of talk about 6.1s being different than 5.8s – in addition to being a wider truck of course... any recommendations from 6.1/5.8 users?
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Get slightly harder bushings (like 95a instead of what’s usually assumed to be 90a stock) then they feel like normal V’s - all good.

Think the wider hanger just gives too much press on the regular duro - if you like a happy medium tightness I couldn’t get it with stock, was flopping all over.

What size board do you pair the 6.1 with?
Run my trucks medium/loose, thanks for the tip...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on February 20, 2022, 01:00:58 AM
Err.. actually a 9.25 overhanging with some very offset wheels to make up the gap to edge.

Not my regular setup, kinda nostalgia jam.

That might have been my problem.... that you might not have.

Whatever the axle measures on a 6.1 not sure. I usually get a deck width .25 under the axle width. So like 8 axle 7.75 deck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: vicious cycle on February 20, 2022, 02:39:05 PM
My 5.6 v-lights with stock bushings feel great after 6 sessions. Had bones mediums in them but I wanna stop the bushing madness so i switched back and was really surprised how nice they broke in after a few sessions.
They feel perfect now. Just tightened them a bit after 3-4 sessions. I'm not that heavy so maybe that's a plus for me.
I switched from stock forged TI Indy's after my axle broke on them and i really don't miss anything in the turn.. for me they feel almost the same .
Was thinking about selling them but now I don't know anymore. Maybe i'm awake now..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 21, 2022, 07:27:18 PM
Contrary to what everyone says about riptide pivot cups in the ventures making them turn better, I am experiencing even worse turning with the riptide pivot cups. My setup is venture 5.6 hi trucks, stock bushings and riptide venture pivot cups 96a with an 8.12 board. Maybe it has to do with a smaller width board than truck width (i usually ride 8.25), but the turning is far less responsive, and I even got more wheelbite than I did before. This is the first session with these btw and it was also cold outside so maybe I have to break them in?

Haven’t skated riptides.
Hard lol at shit not working the first time: yes, almost all things truck related benefit from some break in.
Slightly unpopular opinion: trucks wider than the board cause more wheelbite. I cannot really be moved from thinking this. Listening to those that extol the virtues of wider than deck trucks, ‘pinch’ is often listed. As in desirable wheelbite. Slalom boards had those tiny trucks, maybe that’s because that’s all that was available, but I also believe it’s because if the trucks are narrower than the board, there is a longer distance in between the deck and the wheel.   
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on February 22, 2022, 06:22:28 AM
I kinda feel like the hard plasticky stock pivots in Ventures are indeed better than the Riptides, too. I just wax the stock ones, good to go. The harder plastic has a good rebound back to center.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 22, 2022, 09:20:57 AM
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Contrary to what everyone says about riptide pivot cups in the ventures making them turn better, I am experiencing even worse turning with the riptide pivot cups. My setup is venture 5.6 hi trucks, stock bushings and riptide venture pivot cups 96a with an 8.12 board. Maybe it has to do with a smaller width board than truck width (i usually ride 8.25), but the turning is far less responsive, and I even got more wheelbite than I did before. This is the first session with these btw and it was also cold outside so maybe I have to break them in?
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Haven’t skated riptides.
Hard lol at shit not working the first time: yes, almost all things truck related benefit from some break in.
Slightly unpopular opinion: trucks wider than the board cause more wheelbite. I cannot really be moved from thinking this. Listening to those that extol the virtues of wider than deck trucks, ‘pinch’ is often listed. As in desirable wheelbite. Slalom boards had those tiny trucks, maybe that’s because that’s all that was available, but I also believe it’s because if the trucks are narrower than the board, there is a longer distance in between the deck and the wheel.

I just look at those thunder 161’s….and feel the wheelbite.  That said, after skating ventures which also wheelbite, I’ve found that not all wheelbite is as bad…..so maybe it’s not as severe…also how people commonly skate trucks ie. wide/loose, narrow/tight make a difference too…

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 22, 2022, 05:42:34 PM
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I was considering getting a set of Venture 5.8s or 6.1s (standards) since I've been seeing them on sale lately. I normally run my trucks medium loose (carvy enough for slappies, nowhere near jiggly loose though). What are the biggest wheels y'all have run on these. I'm not opposed to using 1/8" risers btw
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A guy I know skates 5.8 with 56 and sometimes 58 mm wheels, minimal to no risers, fairly loose trucks.  Certainly see a lot of wheel bite on his board, but he said it doesn't seem to bother him as much as people might think.

I am about to get some used Venture trucks in bigger sizes - shipped and awaiting delivery later this week, all going well - so am curious to see what I can go up to on them.

A couple of boards that I have made wheel wells are going to be my test to see if I can get 60mm cruiser wheels on Ventures with minimal risers and still have them turn as much as I like for that sort of rolling, as well as normal skating on whatever size wheel I can get on there.  Should be fun.

Will let you know.
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Great thank you!


Been super busy this whole week, but I plan on setting up the 6.1s today as it is the once a week "Skateshop / indoor skatepark day" for me, so I will be taking them along with a whole lot of stuff I just got and giving them a go later on with 52, 54, 56 and 58 mm Spitfires.

Not going to post the pic again, but this is what I got, link to pic here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=82832.msg3744644#msg3744644

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Reed Richards on February 22, 2022, 07:17:17 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CaQL9QqlVK1/
Beatrice got a colorway, good for her.  I wonder what size they come in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 23, 2022, 06:31:13 AM
I was considering getting a set of Venture 5.8s or 6.1s (standards) since I've been seeing them on sale lately. I normally run my trucks medium loose (carvy enough for slappies, nowhere near jiggly loose though). What are the biggest wheels y'all have run on these. I'm not opposed to using 1/8" risers btw




So I set the used 6.1 standard Ventures up with no risers and skated them exactly as they were on the Dane 1 deck, fairly loose and easy to carve and turn, especially with smaller wheels, minimal wheelbite on 52 mm wheels, then was still easy enough on the 54 mm but I knew where I could lean to without having issues and pushed it as far as that easily enough again.

The 56 mm wheels were a little harder to turn as much and I could feel the wheel touching the deck without getting thrown off, but I was ready for it too.

The 58 mm wheels were the last ones and I left them on the board, so again a bit more used to the deck and trucks now, couldn't push into turns quite as much and had to be a bit more careful on landings (only small stuff) but still no wheelbite or issues from that sort of thing.  The reason I had left the 58 mm wheels on is I was planning to put on 1/8" risers just to see what that felt like but then got busy and ran out of time before pack up time for the night.

I would say they could easily skate well on the risers with that size wheel - 58 mm Conical Full and have about the same amount of turn and clearance as my usual Indy standards with my usual 56 mm wheels with no risers and I can turn very deeply on them.

I also had 60 mm wheels there ready to try if I had enough time, but also brought them all with me so can test them out in the next day or so too, just to really give them a good go, but I think I will change the trucks over to something more like an 8.8 more general shaped board or even a popsicle with a more normal wheelbase for my liking (about 14.5 is my go to and the Dane 1 is only just a touch more than 14 so it is very short) and see how they feel.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 23, 2022, 07:37:26 AM
Contrary to what everyone says about riptide pivot cups in the ventures making them turn better, I am experiencing even worse turning with the riptide pivot cups. My setup is venture 5.6 hi trucks, stock bushings and riptide venture pivot cups 96a with an 8.12 board. Maybe it has to do with a smaller width board than truck width (i usually ride 8.25), but the turning is far less responsive, and I even got more wheelbite than I did before. This is the first session with these btw and it was also cold outside so maybe I have to break them in?

I used Riptides in Indy and didn’t like them honestly. The difference isn’t super big, but they felt as if they mushed out the bottom of the turn and there was even less snap back to center not that Indy have a ton. Just made the turn feel more “wiggly” and less like a carve. Noise reduction was nice, but that’s it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 23, 2022, 08:08:55 AM
The weather is nice and I’m going to set up a board and break out my beloved venture 5.6 hollows and my loopholes.

I believe that I’ll be free to skate after 4 pm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on February 23, 2022, 08:34:21 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CaQL9QqlVK1/
Beatrice got a colorway, good for her.  I wonder what size they come in.

https://faworldentertainment.com/collections/frontpage/products/venture-beatrice-awake-ltd-truck

5.6 and 6.1
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 23, 2022, 08:43:41 AM
The weather is nice and I’m going to set up a board and break out my beloved venture 5.6 hollows and my loopholes.

I believe that I’ll be free to skate after 4 pm
Honestly one of the best feelings: when you’re at work and the weather outside is nice and you know it’s gonna be nice for the rest of the day so you’ll be able to skate when you’re off. Makes the work day a bit more bearable knowing a sesh is coming afterwards.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spicysk8rboi on February 23, 2022, 02:06:08 PM
Just got my first pair of venture standards (on a sweet sale) and noticed the kingpins are 2 different colors, ones polished while the other is black. I can’t tell if my brain is fucking with me but one seems maybe a hair taller than the other, and it could be because one is a little cranked down while the other isn’t. Just wondering if anyone else is has that happen.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 23, 2022, 02:13:55 PM
Just got my first pair of venture standards (on a sweet sale) and noticed the kingpins are 2 different colors, ones polished while the other is black. I can’t tell if my brain is fucking with me but one seems maybe a hair taller than the other, and it could be because one is a little cranked down while the other isn’t. Just wondering if anyone else is has that happen.

Those might be from different eras. A shop employee I spoke with (definitely a ‘lifer’), was saying that Ventures changed their geometry. He insinuated recently. I’m not sure if this was in addition to the group changing from street corner to deluxe, or what. Interestingly he went from long long time Venture Hi guy, to Indys. Like the reverse of what everyone else was doing over the last few years (not everyone, but in the shops I went to, many employees kind of aligned themselves with dlx and so venture over indy).
Anyways. The trucks might be different. Might not.
I’ve seen people thing trucks were different by comparing axle to axle. As I’m sure you are aware, not an accurate method.
Too long/too rambly: could be different. I hope someone actually informed (not me obvi) pipes up with the info
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on February 23, 2022, 02:25:44 PM
Just got my first pair of venture standards (on a sweet sale) and noticed the kingpins are 2 different colors, ones polished while the other is black. I can’t tell if my brain is fucking with me but one seems maybe a hair taller than the other, and it could be because one is a little cranked down while the other isn’t. Just wondering if anyone else is has that happen.
It shouldn't affect performance at all so you should be fine (as long as they are both from Deluxe, and you didn't get a mismatch truck from Street Corner era). It's most likely related to supply issues as mentioned in the Thunder thread (page 6), skaters saw that the kingpin is set deeper in new Thunder batches and Deluxe replied that they needed to use a different kingpin to keep production going. Might be the same case for the different color kingpins for Ventures.

Welcome to the Venture gang! the only truck that matters
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on February 23, 2022, 02:28:02 PM
Just got my first pair of venture standards (on a sweet sale) and noticed the kingpins are 2 different colors, ones polished while the other is black. I can’t tell if my brain is fucking with me but one seems maybe a hair taller than the other, and it could be because one is a little cranked down while the other isn’t. Just wondering if anyone else is has that happen.

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Looks like Thunder is setting the kingpin deeper into the baseplate now. Should allow to get them a little bit looser.
(https://i.ibb.co/VHXK7sx/B7-CABE16-B98-D-4-A85-BF9-F-A400292-EF222.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VHXK7sx)
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I saw a newer set of Ventures that are like that too. I think it's just a shorter kingpin because the hanger clearance up top looks about the same as the old ones. Maybe that recessed bit on the baseplate is designed to fit a sleeve (like on the Mindys) if they ever release that inverted kingpin version.
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I dm’d and got this response pretty quickly. DLX is awesome.(https://i.ibb.co/KhPpNH0/1-D7-AA228-C875-4194-87-B9-3-DD6-D0618702.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KhPpNH0)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Peepeeboy69 on February 23, 2022, 02:41:49 PM
2nd session on venture 5.2L and this truck is just both ends of the barrel for me.

Pop feel feels so good, but they don't turn at all! I'll pop a crispy flip trick and then instantly run off my board pushing right after! Just going from A to B takes like 3x the effort cause I have to stay still like a statue and I gotta tictac around every corner. I had a set of 5.0H that I skated literally once and then gave away bc i would go into like primo stall just turning. GAH!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on February 23, 2022, 02:45:01 PM
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I was considering getting a set of Venture 5.8s or 6.1s (standards) since I've been seeing them on sale lately. I normally run my trucks medium loose (carvy enough for slappies, nowhere near jiggly loose though). What are the biggest wheels y'all have run on these. I'm not opposed to using 1/8" risers btw


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So I set the used 6.1 standard Ventures up with no risers and skated them exactly as they were on the Dane 1 deck, fairly loose and easy to carve and turn, especially with smaller wheels, minimal wheelbite on 52 mm wheels, then was still easy enough on the 54 mm but I knew where I could lean to without having issues and pushed it as far as that easily enough again.

The 56 mm wheels were a little harder to turn as much and I could feel the wheel touching the deck without getting thrown off, but I was ready for it too.

The 58 mm wheels were the last ones and I left them on the board, so again a bit more used to the deck and trucks now, couldn't push into turns quite as much and had to be a bit more careful on landings (only small stuff) but still no wheelbite or issues from that sort of thing.  The reason I had left the 58 mm wheels on is I was planning to put on 1/8" risers just to see what that felt like but then got busy and ran out of time before pack up time for the night.

I would say they could easily skate well on the risers with that size wheel - 58 mm Conical Full and have about the same amount of turn and clearance as my usual Indy standards with my usual 56 mm wheels with no risers and I can turn very deeply on them.

I also had 60 mm wheels there ready to try if I had enough time, but also brought them all with me so can test them out in the next day or so too, just to really give them a good go, but I think I will change the trucks over to something more like an 8.8 more general shaped board or even a popsicle with a more normal wheelbase for my liking (about 14.5 is my go to and the Dane 1 is only just a touch more than 14 so it is very short) and see how they feel.

Damn thanks so much for running that test! Much appreciated!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spicysk8rboi on February 23, 2022, 03:12:30 PM
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Just got my first pair of venture standards (on a sweet sale) and noticed the kingpins are 2 different colors, ones polished while the other is black. I can’t tell if my brain is fucking with me but one seems maybe a hair taller than the other, and it could be because one is a little cranked down while the other isn’t. Just wondering if anyone else is has that happen.
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It shouldn't affect performance at all so you should be fine (as long as they are both from Deluxe, and you didn't get a mismatch truck from Street Corner era). It's most likely related to supply issues as mentioned in the Thunder thread (page 6), skaters saw that the kingpin is set deeper in new Thunder batches and Deluxe replied that they needed to use a different kingpin to keep production going. Might be the same case for the different color kingpins for Ventures.

Welcome to the Venture gang! the only truck that matters

Idk how to tell if it’s DLX or not but I’m tired of gear madness and want to skate these  until they break, so don’t tell me how to check if there’s a way to tell lol.
I can’t wait to skate them as soon as I heal, love the way they sound when grinding
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 23, 2022, 08:16:33 PM
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The weather is nice and I’m going to set up a board and break out my beloved venture 5.6 hollows and my loopholes.

I believe that I’ll be free to skate after 4 pm
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Honestly one of the best feelings: when you’re at work and the weather outside is nice and you know it’s gonna be nice for the rest of the day so you’ll be able to skate when you’re off. Makes the work day a bit more bearable knowing a sesh is coming afterwards.

Hell yeah. I got tied up but it was worth it.

When I got home I got out the venture set up with the f4 58’s on it and just went to the furthest store I know. All fresh black top almost. It was liberating af.

Venture cast 5.6 is one hundred the best loose truck set up to me. Stability but I can carve like woah this feels so good still. I have a nice flat k shape on those trucks with wooden risers.

It’s just like heaven.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 23, 2022, 08:18:09 PM
I’m kinda wound up to read rn.

Did anyone see ben’s video about truck wb? That one I think is a must see for anyone who’s about mad board thought.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 27, 2022, 05:28:12 PM
Back on Venture 5.6 Ti after a 2 months on Royal IKP to lighten things up a bit. Nothing fancy, stock purple bushings (the best IMO) and forged baseplates.

Turning - not worse, just different, less surfy and a lot of lean before the turn, not a dealbreaker for me
Slide - better than Royal with the protruding baseplate, could really feel it working against the ledge for added control
Grind - Ventures are the king here, so stable when locked in and I could hold the grind with a pop out, hardness feel the same as Royals

Royals will be my replacement for Thunder, but Ventures are in a league of their own.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on March 04, 2022, 06:51:16 AM
Yes, i used the search function in this thread but "height" did not yield the results i was looking for. Can someone tell me the height of 5.6 highs on cast plates and on forged plates. Tactics seems inaccurate
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on March 04, 2022, 07:02:51 AM
Yes, i used the search function in this thread but "height" did not yield the results i was looking for. Can someone tell me the height of 5.6 highs on cast plates and on forged plates. Tactics seems inaccurate
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Anyone know offhand how high the 5.6 and 5.2 his are?
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The V-lights/hollow/titanium are 52mm. They have a thinner forged baseplate.

going by this, 53mm cast and 52mm forged. what did tactics have?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 04, 2022, 07:03:48 AM
Back on Venture 5.6 Ti after a 2 months on Royal IKP to lighten things up a bit. Nothing fancy, stock purple bushings (the best IMO) and forged baseplates.

Turning - not worse, just different, less surfy and a lot of lean before the turn, not a dealbreaker for me
Slide - better than Royal with the protruding baseplate, could really feel it working against the ledge for added control
Grind - Ventures are the king here, so stable when locked in and I could hold the grind with a pop out, hardness feel the same as Royals

Royals will be my replacement for Thunder, but Ventures are in a league of their own.

Ventures…I’m always coming back. I like the purples. The maroons take the longest to break in, for me, but then last the longest.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on March 04, 2022, 07:12:27 AM
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Yes, i used the search function in this thread but "height" did not yield the results i was looking for. Can someone tell me the height of 5.6 highs on cast plates and on forged plates. Tactics seems inaccurate
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Anyone know offhand how high the 5.6 and 5.2 his are?
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The V-lights/hollow/titanium are 52mm. They have a thinner forged baseplate.
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going by this, 53mm cast and 52mm forged. what did tactics have?

53.5 on the cast, and 61.7 on the forged lol
https://www.tactics.com/venture/polished-skateboard-trucks/polished-52-hi

https://www.tactics.com/venture/awake-horizon-v-lights-skateboard-trucks/polished-52-hi



Obviously an error, but the regular vlights are still listed as 53.5

https://www.tactics.com/venture/v-lights-skateboard-trucks/all-polished-56-hi
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 04, 2022, 08:06:25 AM
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Back on Venture 5.6 Ti after a 2 months on Royal IKP to lighten things up a bit. Nothing fancy, stock purple bushings (the best IMO) and forged baseplates.

Turning - not worse, just different, less surfy and a lot of lean before the turn, not a dealbreaker for me
Slide - better than Royal with the protruding baseplate, could really feel it working against the ledge for added control
Grind - Ventures are the king here, so stable when locked in and I could hold the grind with a pop out, hardness feel the same as Royals

Royals will be my replacement for Thunder, but Ventures are in a league of their own.
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Ventures…I’m always coming back. I like the purples. The maroons take the longest to break in, for me, but then last the longest.

Purple > Red bushings all day.

I live in the tropics and would rarely to wear a hoodie, but I would really like a yellow Venture hoodie.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on March 04, 2022, 09:57:33 AM
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Yes, i used the search function in this thread but "height" did not yield the results i was looking for. Can someone tell me the height of 5.6 highs on cast plates and on forged plates. Tactics seems inaccurate
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Anyone know offhand how high the 5.6 and 5.2 his are?
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The V-lights/hollow/titanium are 52mm. They have a thinner forged baseplate.
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going by this, 53mm cast and 52mm forged. what did tactics have?
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53.5 on the cast, and 61.7 on the forged lol
https://www.tactics.com/venture/polished-skateboard-trucks/polished-52-hi

https://www.tactics.com/venture/awake-horizon-v-lights-skateboard-trucks/polished-52-hi



Obviously an error, but the regular vlights are still listed as 53.5

https://www.tactics.com/venture/v-lights-skateboard-trucks/all-polished-56-hi

wow lmao, glad we cleared that up.

i didn't come across anyone saying those numbers were innacurate (the ones i quoted not tactics), but if anyone feels like confirming just so we have it in a post regarding venture truck height that would be dope
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fakie varial flip on March 06, 2022, 11:47:01 AM
Had my first session on a pair of 5.8 his... coming from ace 44s, these things actually feel fantastic? I do certainly feel more resistance to carving but these feel pretty comfortable and they have an amazing lock-in (on rails even)...

I was skating a pair of indy mids just prior to this and hated them so went back to ace. I loved my ace 44s, hated indy 149s, and now love these 5.8s. I don't understand how that's possible, but it felt like the indys had absolutely no pop and for the first time in my life I got near constant wheelbite, so couldn't carve for shit. These 5.8s have huge pop, carve nicely, and feel amazing.

If I need them just slightly more carvy, do I remove the bottom washer? I don't need them to rattle, I just want to try them in a bigger concrete park and see how long 5050s on coping feel. I'm only skating street while the parks are still closed but am wondering for the future if I can make these work on transition since they feel so good otherwise
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 06, 2022, 12:00:44 PM
Had my first session on a pair of 5.8 his... coming from ace 44s, these things actually feel fantastic? I do certainly feel more resistance to carving but these feel pretty comfortable and they have an amazing lock-in (on rails even)...

I was skating a pair of indy mids just prior to this and hated them so went back to ace. I loved my ace 44s, hated indy 149s, and now love these 5.8s. I don't understand how that's possible, but it felt like the indys had absolutely no pop and for the first time in my life I got near constant wheelbite, so couldn't carve for shit. These 5.8s have huge pop, carve nicely, and feel amazing.

If I need them just slightly more carvy, do I remove the bottom washer? I don't need them to rattle, I just want to try them in a bigger concrete park and see how long 5050s on coping feel. I'm only skating street while the parks are still closed but am wondering for the future if I can make these work on transition since they feel so good otherwise
flat top washers. also can recommend ace low bushings
did some qp skating last week and they are the tits
i dont skate pools but i wouldnt switch trucks to do so
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on March 06, 2022, 12:01:18 PM
Had my first session on a pair of 5.8 his... coming from ace 44s, these things actually feel fantastic? I do certainly feel more resistance to carving but these feel pretty comfortable and they have an amazing lock-in (on rails even)...

I was skating a pair of indy mids just prior to this and hated them so went back to ace. I loved my ace 44s, hated indy 149s, and now love these 5.8s. I don't understand how that's possible, but it felt like the indys had absolutely no pop and for the first time in my life I got near constant wheelbite, so couldn't carve for shit. These 5.8s have huge pop, carve nicely, and feel amazing.

If I need them just slightly more carvy, do I remove the bottom washer? I don't need them to rattle, I just want to try them in a bigger concrete park and see how long 5050s on coping feel. I'm only skating street while the parks are still closed but am wondering for the future if I can make these work on transition since they feel so good otherwise
Bones bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fakie varial flip on March 06, 2022, 12:16:39 PM
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Had my first session on a pair of 5.8 his... coming from ace 44s, these things actually feel fantastic? I do certainly feel more resistance to carving but these feel pretty comfortable and they have an amazing lock-in (on rails even)...

I was skating a pair of indy mids just prior to this and hated them so went back to ace. I loved my ace 44s, hated indy 149s, and now love these 5.8s. I don't understand how that's possible, but it felt like the indys had absolutely no pop and for the first time in my life I got near constant wheelbite, so couldn't carve for shit. These 5.8s have huge pop, carve nicely, and feel amazing.

If I need them just slightly more carvy, do I remove the bottom washer? I don't need them to rattle, I just want to try them in a bigger concrete park and see how long 5050s on coping feel. I'm only skating street while the parks are still closed but am wondering for the future if I can make these work on transition since they feel so good otherwise
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flat top washers. also can recommend ace low bushings
did some qp skating last week and they are the tits
i dont skate pools but i wouldnt switch trucks to do so

Fantastic! Is there a specific washer I should grab (minilogo, etc) or:
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Had my first session on a pair of 5.8 his... coming from ace 44s, these things actually feel fantastic? I do certainly feel more resistance to carving but these feel pretty comfortable and they have an amazing lock-in (on rails even)...

I was skating a pair of indy mids just prior to this and hated them so went back to ace. I loved my ace 44s, hated indy 149s, and now love these 5.8s. I don't understand how that's possible, but it felt like the indys had absolutely no pop and for the first time in my life I got near constant wheelbite, so couldn't carve for shit. These 5.8s have huge pop, carve nicely, and feel amazing.

If I need them just slightly more carvy, do I remove the bottom washer? I don't need them to rattle, I just want to try them in a bigger concrete park and see how long 5050s on coping feel. I'm only skating street while the parks are still closed but am wondering for the future if I can make these work on transition since they feel so good otherwise
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Bones bushings.

Maybe should I just grab a set of these and use the flat washer?

Thanks for all the help!! Never going back to indy again after the session I had today
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 06, 2022, 02:50:32 PM
I run bones and riptide pivot cups in 5.6’s and they work well for me.  The cheap fix as you said is just put in a flat top washer.  The truck has some smooth consistent lean which works well in most situations.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 06, 2022, 07:07:47 PM
I prefer the stock bushings over bones. Really nice once broken in. Just swap the top washer for a flat metal one. Get some riptide pivot cups too if you're feeling fancy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 06, 2022, 08:37:15 PM
I prefer the stock bushings over bones. Really nice once broken in. Just swap the top washer for a flat metal one. Get some riptide pivot cups too if you're feeling fancy.

Worn in purple (or red) ones are the best, the turn and pinch much better with the stability for flip tricks. No more mucking about with Ventures for me, stock bushings for life.

I find them more durable than the stock Thunder ones which I have seen crumble after very light use. Not from overtightened trucks or having a 200lbs rider on them either. Stange considering both are DLX brands and presumably using the same factory for bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 06, 2022, 08:54:12 PM
Hit axle again, took three months this time. Front truck and sw crook groove -.-
Axles very slightly bent, almost at pivot cup (which are very oval from slides).
Probably run em a bit more to get moneys worth until they start messing with my grinds.

Love ventures but they definitely do not last if you on the heavier side and skate rough ledges and curbs.

Would happily pay double if they made ventures out of whatever og indy metal is.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fakie varial flip on March 06, 2022, 09:34:02 PM
I prefer the stock bushings over bones. Really nice once broken in. Just swap the top washer for a flat metal one. Get some riptide pivot cups too if you're feeling fancy.

Aha! I thought I read that before but was having trouble finding it again. Is there any specific flat washer that's better? Is this just a hardware store swap or should I grab the bones bushings and just use the washer?

I was also hoping to not part with the purple bushings because they feel perfect with regard to rebound, whereas my indys felt dead
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 06, 2022, 10:54:05 PM
I just used the ones that come with bones bushings. Keep the purps theyre great
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fakie varial flip on March 07, 2022, 06:02:45 AM
I just used the ones that come with bones bushings. Keep the purps theyre great

Fuck yes thanks for the help. So hyped on these trucks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CaderSk8r on March 07, 2022, 07:31:04 AM
Ishod skating ventures
 (https://i.ibb.co/wQDxfjp/C1-E3-E0-CC-7730-4-CFE-A45-F-EC653-E1-A04-C4.png) (https://ibb.co/wQDxfjp)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 07, 2022, 07:34:00 AM
ventures in paris
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on March 07, 2022, 07:38:59 AM
Ishod skating ventures
 (https://i.ibb.co/wQDxfjp/C1-E3-E0-CC-7730-4-CFE-A45-F-EC653-E1-A04-C4.png) (https://ibb.co/wQDxfjp)

OH FUCK SOUND THE ALARM
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: big_kev_215 on March 07, 2022, 09:05:41 AM
Ishod skating ventures
 (https://i.ibb.co/wQDxfjp/C1-E3-E0-CC-7730-4-CFE-A45-F-EC653-E1-A04-C4.png) (https://ibb.co/wQDxfjp)

Just think of them as European Thunders
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 07, 2022, 09:38:31 AM
Big if true, I knew there was no way he could pinch as good as he did on Thunders. Someone go CSI Jamie Foy, I suspect he's rocking Ventures too.

Maybe it's a holiday thing, like how white people get braids when they go to Jamaica.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on March 07, 2022, 09:46:00 AM
Big if true, I knew there was no way he could pinch as good as he did on Thunders. Someone go CSI Jamie Foy, I suspect he's rocking Ventures too.

Maybe it's a holiday thing, like how white people get braids when they go to Jamaica.

lol thought similarly -  "well he IS in france"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 07, 2022, 09:51:12 AM
Ishod skating ventures
 (https://i.ibb.co/wQDxfjp/C1-E3-E0-CC-7730-4-CFE-A45-F-EC653-E1-A04-C4.png) (https://ibb.co/wQDxfjp)

Ishod leaves dlx to join dlx :v
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: backside_frontside on March 07, 2022, 09:59:56 AM
I just want to say that I set up some V-hollows yesterday and can confirm my pop increased by 17%.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 07, 2022, 12:53:44 PM
I just want to say that I set up some V-hollows yesterday and can confirm my pop increased by 17%.

What deck are you riding and what trucks did you have before ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 07, 2022, 03:03:15 PM
Just in general for me. I liked venture v-hollow or standards paired with PS stix boards compared to BBS. Some examples that worked well were quasi, gx1000, and WKND. I’d say that the venture hollows worked better with flatter decks and the standards worked better with steeper decks for some reason.

And BBS in general has steeper decks? AWS/ habitat are steep or mellow?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on March 07, 2022, 03:57:19 PM
Ishod skating ventures
 (https://i.ibb.co/wQDxfjp/C1-E3-E0-CC-7730-4-CFE-A45-F-EC653-E1-A04-C4.png) (https://ibb.co/wQDxfjp)

Was wondering if anyone else noticed this. Don’t see him going from thunder to venture. Maybe he was just on someone else’s board
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on March 07, 2022, 05:33:30 PM
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Ishod skating ventures
 (https://i.ibb.co/wQDxfjp/C1-E3-E0-CC-7730-4-CFE-A45-F-EC653-E1-A04-C4.png) (https://ibb.co/wQDxfjp)
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Was wondering if anyone else noticed this. Don’t see him going from thunder to venture. Maybe he was just on someone else’s board

not to split hairs, but since i did the zoom and enhance i figured i would share my dumbass theory - everything looks super fresh, maybe built a deck at a local and they didn't have thunders??

also looks like standard baseplate if it matters
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 07, 2022, 06:47:41 PM
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Ishod skating ventures
 (https://i.ibb.co/wQDxfjp/C1-E3-E0-CC-7730-4-CFE-A45-F-EC653-E1-A04-C4.png) (https://ibb.co/wQDxfjp)
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Was wondering if anyone else noticed this. Don’t see him going from thunder to venture. Maybe he was just on someone else’s board
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not to split hairs, but since i did the zoom and enhance i figured i would share my dumbass theory - everything looks super fresh, maybe built a deck at a local and they didn't have thunders??

also looks like standard baseplate if it matters

Pros riding brands that they aren't sponsored by?! What's next?!

Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... MASS HYSTERIA!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on March 07, 2022, 07:04:54 PM
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Ishod skating ventures
 (https://i.ibb.co/wQDxfjp/C1-E3-E0-CC-7730-4-CFE-A45-F-EC653-E1-A04-C4.png) (https://ibb.co/wQDxfjp)
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Was wondering if anyone else noticed this. Don’t see him going from thunder to venture. Maybe he was just on someone else’s board
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not to split hairs, but since i did the zoom and enhance i figured i would share my dumbass theory - everything looks super fresh, maybe built a deck at a local and they didn't have thunders??

also looks like standard baseplate if it matters
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Pros riding brands that they aren't sponsored by?! What's next?!

Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... MASS HYSTERIA!

hey now, don't be trying to ruin my national lampoon presents: ishod's european vacation fun
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on March 07, 2022, 08:04:16 PM
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Ishod skating ventures
 (https://i.ibb.co/wQDxfjp/C1-E3-E0-CC-7730-4-CFE-A45-F-EC653-E1-A04-C4.png) (https://ibb.co/wQDxfjp)
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Was wondering if anyone else noticed this. Don’t see him going from thunder to venture. Maybe he was just on someone else’s board
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not to split hairs, but since i did the zoom and enhance i figured i would share my dumbass theory - everything looks super fresh, maybe built a deck at a local and they didn't have thunders??

also looks like standard baseplate if it matters
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Pros riding brands that they aren't sponsored by?! What's next?!

Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...
The dead rising from the grave!
Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... MASS HYSTERIA!

I'm LITERALLY shaking over here.


also looks like standard baseplate if it matters

It 100% does
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: maggot cunt on March 08, 2022, 01:09:36 AM

also looks like standard baseplate if it matters

It 100% does
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but are they hi’s or lo’s tho  ::)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 08, 2022, 03:00:52 AM
Ok, i wanted to Skate AWS and habitat boards next with my new venture hi‘s, cause I thought most of these decks have a 14“ wb, but found out the shop I’m buying from messed up almost all the measurements and most have  longer wheelbases.

So I probably get a GX with a 14 or 14.1 wb.
What other brands share the same shape as gx? 



What decks are you riding with hi ventures? 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: El Freegano on March 08, 2022, 03:12:09 AM
Last year i had v-hollows on a dlx deck with 14 wb that worked perfect. I also sk8ed them on a deck with 14.25 with steep kicks that made me ghost pop for some tricks. In the past i was skating a lot the lows on of 14 wb decks with mellow kicks and that were probably my best skate period.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 08, 2022, 03:37:00 AM
It’s just really not that easy to get decks from 8.0-8.125 with 14 wb that often that come with fuller noses and that don’t have too steep kicks.

FA/Hockey would just be perfect if they weren’t that steep.
Always 14“ wb with 8-8.2 decks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on March 08, 2022, 03:40:02 AM
It’s just really not that easy to get decks from 8.0-8.125 with 14 wb that often that come with fuller noses and that don’t have too steep kicks.

FA/Hockey would just be perfect if they weren’t that steep.
Always 14“ wb with 8-8.2 decks
Real full SE
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on March 08, 2022, 04:20:14 AM
The twin tail is 14.4, Bobby and ishod skate venture/thunder, doesn't bother them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on March 08, 2022, 04:39:13 AM
The twin tail is 14.4, Bobby and ishod skate venture/thunder, doesn't bother them

Maybe we should just train to transcend the limits of long wb boards on long wb trucks. There's clearly something to it. Bobby and ishod are at the top of their game.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 08, 2022, 05:17:25 AM
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The twin tail is 14.4, Bobby and ishod skate venture/thunder, doesn't bother them
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Maybe we should just train to transcend the limits of long wb boards on long wb trucks. There's clearly something to it. Bobby and ishod are at the top of their game.

Carl Aikens new shape has a 14.5” wb, he skated ventures. Just saying.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on March 08, 2022, 06:19:07 AM
On Insts Ishod said they didn’t have Thunders at the shop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fooj on March 08, 2022, 06:43:04 AM
I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 08, 2022, 06:45:29 AM
I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.


So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? &#129300;
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 08, 2022, 07:00:39 AM
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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.
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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? &#38;#129300;

There isn’t such a thing.
Again, using a highly talented professional: Aikens was supposedly skating the girl shape with the shortest tail (6.3), with venture hi’s, and he definitely doesn’t look labored with his pop.
I really enjoy reading people’s opinions on here, so I’m not attempting to shit on anyone for posting theirs, I personally don’t believe there are magic combinations of wb truck brand etc equals hward sk8r.
Riding something that gets me stoked to get out there and skate is the key for me, I’m gonna have a hard time no matter what
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: backside_frontside on March 08, 2022, 07:06:30 AM
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I just want to say that I set up some V-hollows yesterday and can confirm my pop increased by 17%.
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What deck are you riding and what trucks did you have before ?

Currently riding a Quasi 8.125 x 31.75 x 14.125. Was riding standard ventures highs (5.2 width I think, whatever is for 7.75-8.125), stock bushings and stock tightness. And before that, I sakted Krux for many years (kook me if you want lol). I try not to overthink the wheelbase. More concerned with overall board length and shape of the nose/tail.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on March 08, 2022, 07:07:48 AM
I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.
This. So many people put emphasis on ventures being paired on a board with a short wb but not too many people take into effect other things such as the length of the tail, how steep the tail is, fingers of flat, the overall length of the board in comparison to the wb, etc.
A 14 inch wb board with a super steep tail with only like one finger of flat on the tail is probably gonna take more effort to pop with ventures and give you way more ghost pop than a 14.5 wb board that has a super flat tail with like three and a half fingers of flat on the tail.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 08, 2022, 07:08:54 AM
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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.
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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? &#38;#38;#129300;
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There isn’t such a thing.
Again, using a highly talented professional: Aikens was supposedly skating the girl shape with the shortest tail (6.3), with venture hi’s, and he definitely doesn’t look labored with his pop.
I really enjoy reading people’s opinions on here, so I’m not attempting to shit on anyone for posting theirs, I personally don’t believe there are magic combinations of wb truck brand etc equals hward sk8r.
Riding something that gets me stoked to get out there and skate is the key for me, I’m gonna have a hard time no matter what

Yeah, I feel you.

But one more question:

what would you consider a short and normal tail?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fooj on March 08, 2022, 07:10:08 AM
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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.
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This. So many people put emphasis on ventures being paired on a board with a short wb but not too many people take into effect other things such as the length of the tail, how steep the tail is, fingers of flat, the overall length of the board in comparison to the wb, etc.
A 14 inch wb board with a super steep tail with only like one finger of flat on the tail is probably gonna take more effort to pop with ventures and give you way more ghost pop than a 14.5 wb board that has a super flat tail with like three and a half fingers of flat on the tail.

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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.
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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? &#38;#38;#129300;

The best one im currently aware of is the April 8.25 shape, I saw on another thread that it was a Primitive design, it feels like it was made for Venture. Tactics has the tail measuring super long at 6.81", which for me made the pop on Thunders and Ace feel too soft and dead. 

Once i got Venture hi's on felt great, im on my 6th in a row.  Similar general feel and skateability that i get with Thunders+6.5" tail DLX deck but with more noticeably pop overall, im guessing since im higher up with more leverage. Obviously less wheelbite too.

Ive been scoping out some decks with 6.75" tails to maybe try since theyre more common but i dont really have any reason to change right now.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fooj on March 08, 2022, 07:15:02 AM
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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.
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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? &#38;#38;#38;#129300;
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There isn’t such a thing.
Again, using a highly talented professional: Aikens was supposedly skating the girl shape with the shortest tail (6.3), with venture hi’s, and he definitely doesn’t look labored with his pop.
I really enjoy reading people’s opinions on here, so I’m not attempting to shit on anyone for posting theirs, I personally don’t believe there are magic combinations of wb truck brand etc equals hward sk8r.
Riding something that gets me stoked to get out there and skate is the key for me, I’m gonna have a hard time no matter what
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Yeah, I feel you.

But one more question:

what would you consider a short and normal tail?

Talking in Tactics measurements, it seems like the dlx standard is 6.5" and some 6.625". That seems to work well with thunders, indy forged and ace.  Ive seen some decks with tails below 6.5", like 6.3" or something, i wouldnt touch those.  I think anything above a 6.7" tail is considered long. Heroin Symmetrical egg with 7" kicks seems interesting on hi's

Like others have mentioned tho, tail steepness would also matter
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LewFarrell on March 08, 2022, 11:12:03 AM
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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.
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This. So many people put emphasis on ventures being paired on a board with a short wb but not too many people take into effect other things such as the length of the tail, how steep the tail is, fingers of flat, the overall length of the board in comparison to the wb, etc.
A 14 inch wb board with a super steep tail with only like one finger of flat on the tail is probably gonna take more effort to pop with ventures and give you way more ghost pop than a 14.5 wb board that has a super flat tail with like three and a half fingers of flat on the tail.
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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.
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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? &#38;#38;#38;#129300;
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The best one im currently aware of is the April 8.25 shape, I saw on another thread that it was a Primitive design, it feels like it was made for Venture. Tactics has the tail measuring super long at 6.81", which for me made the pop on Thunders and Ace feel too soft and dead. 

Once i got Venture hi's on felt great, im on my 6th in a row.  Similar general feel and skateability that i get with Thunders+6.5" tail DLX deck but with more noticeably pop overall, im guessing since im higher up with more leverage. Obviously less wheelbite too.

Ive been scoping out some decks with 6.75" tails to maybe try since theyre more common but i dont really have any reason to change right now.

April 8.25 is definitely 6.81" tail per their website. Props to them for listing it in the product descriptions, not a lot of brands do that.

Girl/Chocolate G052 shape is also similar. 6.875" nose, 6.8" tail and 14" wheelbase.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on March 08, 2022, 03:26:01 PM
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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.
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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? &#38;#38;#38;#129300;
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There isn’t such a thing.
Again, using a highly talented professional: Aikens was supposedly skating the girl shape with the shortest tail (6.3), with venture hi’s, and he definitely doesn’t look labored with his pop.
I really enjoy reading people’s opinions on here, so I’m not attempting to shit on anyone for posting theirs, I personally don’t believe there are magic combinations of wb truck brand etc equals hward sk8r.
Riding something that gets me stoked to get out there and skate is the key for me, I’m gonna have a hard time no matter what
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Yeah, I feel you.

But one more question:

what would you consider a short and normal tail?
Primitive, April, and chocolate all have great shapes for venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fooj on March 08, 2022, 07:54:52 PM
that prod influence
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 09, 2022, 07:28:06 AM
This page has been nothing but praises for the stock bushings but I'm beginning to think the hardness improves the pinch and keeps the geometry as originally designed. Something about a harder pushing prevents the truck from articulating too much when locking in so you can hold it much longer, could also explain why I feel locking into tricks needs more authority and less of a gently touch. And the hardness helps with the pop out too, the James Craig tutorial on Fakie Ollie Fakie Crooked Grinds talks about how putting pressure on the bushing stores up the energy so you can get the rebound out of the grind mid ledge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcT7Igmn7TI&ab_channel=RIDEChannel

Edit: Coincidentally also rocking Ventures in the clip
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on March 09, 2022, 08:17:25 AM
Really fw the idea of ventures on 8.5's since most 8.5s on the market have a 6.625+ tails anyway.

Am I the only one who can like skate a 14.25WB then a  14.5WB if you give me a day to get used to it??? I dont even look at wheelbase anymore. Shit I dont look at anything anymore I just buy the board and hope it lets me feel something
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 09, 2022, 08:22:45 AM
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Really fw the idea of ventures on 8.5's since most 8.5s on the market have a 6.625+ tails anyway.

Am I the only one who can like skate a 14.25WB then a  14.5WB if you give me a day to get used to it??? I dont even look at wheelbase anymore. Shit I dont look at anything anymore I just buy the board and hope it lets me feel something
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on March 11, 2022, 06:52:38 PM
Has any one tried an ishod 8.3 TT w/ venture 5.2 hi or 5.2 lo? Thoughts ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Cthunderw on March 11, 2022, 07:59:53 PM
Has any one tried an ishod 8.3 TT w/ venture 5.2 hi or 5.2 lo? Thoughts ?
Are these the two trucks you already own? I think 5.2 would be too narrow for that.  IMO the long Venture wheelbase, combined with what I felt were flatish and shortish kicks and a slightly longer wheelbase on the deck, would not be a good combo at all.  I really liked that deck with Indy 144 Hollows but I'd try Thunders on it before Ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 11, 2022, 08:30:36 PM
Has any one tried an ishod 8.3 TT w/ venture 5.2 hi or 5.2 lo? Thoughts ?

I had 5.6 on it and they felt fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on March 11, 2022, 09:39:10 PM
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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.
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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? &#38;#129300;

I think the dude has a point. I’ve said it before, but I put the 5.6 highs on my Quasi (I think it’s a 14.25 wheelbase), took one look at it and chuckled thinking it was going to be terrible for me, but it’s one of my favorite boards. I wouldn’t overthink it. Ventures are just a solid truck no matter the setup, in my experience.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 11, 2022, 11:28:30 PM
Quasi boards kicks have mellowed out a bit no?  I think a standard BBS’s kicks work fine with ventures, it’s just the wheelbases tend to be 14.25 plus which just feels a hair too long….a dwindle board maybe? 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Jonny7.5Alive on March 11, 2022, 11:32:21 PM
Steep kicks can work well we the lows
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on March 12, 2022, 08:24:41 AM
I have 5.6 standards and v-hollows and I ended up throwing the hollow hanger on the cast baseplate and it feels incredible on the fa/hockey 8.18 shape with 14 WB. Probably completely unnecessary to do that but taking a tiny bit of weight off while keeping the cast height/WB just feels right on that setup
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 12, 2022, 07:08:59 PM
Team Hollows….makes complete sense…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on March 13, 2022, 06:40:41 AM
Currently skating an ishod 8.3 TT w/ 5.2 lo it’s working alright I’d say
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 13, 2022, 06:26:41 PM
Team Hollows….makes complete sense…

5.6 V-Hollow Lo.... makes complete sense...

Still feeling jilted that Ace beat Venture to the punch with the new AF1 Low for a sub-50mm 5.6 truck that isn't Mini Logo.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 13, 2022, 07:05:48 PM
if the aces sell well id assume they are on the horizon
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 13, 2022, 08:46:26 PM
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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.
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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? &#38;#38;#38;#38;#129300;
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There isn’t such a thing.
Again, using a highly talented professional: Aikens was supposedly skating the girl shape with the shortest tail (6.3), with venture hi’s, and he definitely doesn’t look labored with his pop.
I really enjoy reading people’s opinions on here, so I’m not attempting to shit on anyone for posting theirs, I personally don’t believe there are magic combinations of wb truck brand etc equals hward sk8r.
Riding something that gets me stoked to get out there and skate is the key for me, I’m gonna have a hard time no matter what
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Yeah, I feel you.

But one more question:

what would you consider a short and normal tail?
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Talking in Tactics measurements, it seems like the dlx standard is 6.5" and some 6.625". That seems to work well with thunders, indy forged and ace.  Ive seen some decks with tails below 6.5", like 6.3" or something, i wouldnt touch those.  I think anything above a 6.7" tail is considered long. Heroin Symmetrical egg with 7" kicks seems interesting on hi's

Like others have mentioned tho, tail steepness would also matter

Tactics is full of shit a lot of the time. I have a DLX 8.25 sitting right here measuring at 6.75" tail. I think the 8.125 Eagle has a slightly bigger tail too.

I liked Ventures on Quasis, which have pretty damn short tails.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 14, 2022, 12:50:30 AM
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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.
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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? &#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#129300;
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There isn’t such a thing.
Again, using a highly talented professional: Aikens was supposedly skating the girl shape with the shortest tail (6.3), with venture hi’s, and he definitely doesn’t look labored with his pop.
I really enjoy reading people’s opinions on here, so I’m not attempting to shit on anyone for posting theirs, I personally don’t believe there are magic combinations of wb truck brand etc equals hward sk8r.
Riding something that gets me stoked to get out there and skate is the key for me, I’m gonna have a hard time no matter what
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Yeah, I feel you.

But one more question:

what would you consider a short and normal tail?
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Talking in Tactics measurements, it seems like the dlx standard is 6.5" and some 6.625". That seems to work well with thunders, indy forged and ace.  Ive seen some decks with tails below 6.5", like 6.3" or something, i wouldnt touch those.  I think anything above a 6.7" tail is considered long. Heroin Symmetrical egg with 7" kicks seems interesting on hi's

Like others have mentioned tho, tail steepness would also matter
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Tactics is full of shit a lot of the time. I have a DLX 8.25 sitting right here measuring at 6.75" tail. I think the 8.125 Eagle has a slightly bigger tail too.

I liked Ventures on Quasis, which have pretty damn short tails.

That’s what I wanted say. Quasi, gx and wknd have short tails and lots of their team ride ventures

Then again I guess they ride bigger boards, cause 8.125‘s have a tail of 6.375 or something.

You think this is too short for high ventures v hollows ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fooj on March 14, 2022, 06:39:46 AM
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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.
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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? &#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#129300;
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There isn’t such a thing.
Again, using a highly talented professional: Aikens was supposedly skating the girl shape with the shortest tail (6.3), with venture hi’s, and he definitely doesn’t look labored with his pop.
I really enjoy reading people’s opinions on here, so I’m not attempting to shit on anyone for posting theirs, I personally don’t believe there are magic combinations of wb truck brand etc equals hward sk8r.
Riding something that gets me stoked to get out there and skate is the key for me, I’m gonna have a hard time no matter what
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Yeah, I feel you.

But one more question:

what would you consider a short and normal tail?
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Talking in Tactics measurements, it seems like the dlx standard is 6.5" and some 6.625". That seems to work well with thunders, indy forged and ace.  Ive seen some decks with tails below 6.5", like 6.3" or something, i wouldnt touch those.  I think anything above a 6.7" tail is considered long. Heroin Symmetrical egg with 7" kicks seems interesting on hi's

Like others have mentioned tho, tail steepness would also matter
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Tactics is full of shit a lot of the time. I have a DLX 8.25 sitting right here measuring at 6.75" tail. I think the 8.125 Eagle has a slightly bigger tail too.

I liked Ventures on Quasis, which have pretty damn short tails.
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That’s what I wanted say. Quasi, gx and wknd have short tails and lots of their team ride ventures

Then again I guess they ride bigger boards, cause 8.125‘s have a tail of 6.375 or something.

You think this is too short for high ventures v hollows ?

Theres always going to be exceptions based on personal preference, varying kick steepness, or incorrect measurements, but for the most part combining a truck that has the widest WB on the market and pretty decent height, with a short tail makes the physics more likely than not point towards heavy feeling pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 14, 2022, 08:11:48 AM
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I really dont think its as simple as just getting a short WB for V hi's. You need a longer tail to counter the height and "heavy" venture pop.
A 14 wb with a 6.5" tail and hi's is still going to feel heavy and most-likely give you ghost pop, same as what would happen with a 14.25.
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So which brands are the perfect venture hi‘s match is the big question ? &#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#129300;
[close]

There isn’t such a thing.
Again, using a highly talented professional: Aikens was supposedly skating the girl shape with the shortest tail (6.3), with venture hi’s, and he definitely doesn’t look labored with his pop.
I really enjoy reading people’s opinions on here, so I’m not attempting to shit on anyone for posting theirs, I personally don’t believe there are magic combinations of wb truck brand etc equals hward sk8r.
Riding something that gets me stoked to get out there and skate is the key for me, I’m gonna have a hard time no matter what
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Yeah, I feel you.

But one more question:

what would you consider a short and normal tail?
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Talking in Tactics measurements, it seems like the dlx standard is 6.5" and some 6.625". That seems to work well with thunders, indy forged and ace.  Ive seen some decks with tails below 6.5", like 6.3" or something, i wouldnt touch those.  I think anything above a 6.7" tail is considered long. Heroin Symmetrical egg with 7" kicks seems interesting on hi's

Like others have mentioned tho, tail steepness would also matter
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Tactics is full of shit a lot of the time. I have a DLX 8.25 sitting right here measuring at 6.75" tail. I think the 8.125 Eagle has a slightly bigger tail too.

I liked Ventures on Quasis, which have pretty damn short tails.
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That’s what I wanted say. Quasi, gx and wknd have short tails and lots of their team ride ventures

Then again I guess they ride bigger boards, cause 8.125‘s have a tail of 6.375 or something.

You think this is too short for high ventures v hollows ?
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Theres always going to be exceptions based on personal preference, varying kick steepness, or incorrect measurements, but for the most part combining a truck that has the widest WB on the market and pretty decent height, with a short tail makes the physics more likely than not point towards heavy feeling pop.

Let’s see, I’ll try a 8.125 quasi or gx next. I think they have the exact same shape anyway.

Right now I have a magenta big plant 8“ on the ventures, but can’t skate it cause my toe is still broken.
Don’t know the tail length though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on March 14, 2022, 08:58:09 AM
Ventures work with basically every Girl/Chocolate board.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 14, 2022, 09:47:02 PM
finally coming to terms that im too big for soft bushings
was on the ace low bushings for 2 months
wheelbiting on every toe or heel heavy landing
didnt realize my progress was stagnating

rewatched footy of my favorite pros and they can land anyway/how without getting pitched, all seemingly riding tighter trucks. for example, reynolds rides indy blue bushings with 2-3 threads showing. i cant stand showing threads so the ace set had to go

threw in the green supercush 94a, nuts flush. rode loose trucks since i can remember but can still turn with these. cruised around and popped some nollie tricks faster than usual and rolled away like butter. not sure if its my higher center of gravity, strong ankles, 14" wb, being 200lbs, or big flipper feet but i can swerve. low profile kingpin nuts are on the way for a little more give

not sure why i was running near max palmer loose trucks with no intention to skate like him. loose trucks = style is a major misconception, especially if you cant roll away
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 14, 2022, 10:02:02 PM
finally coming to terms that im too big for soft bushings
was on the ace low bushings for 2 months
wheelbiting on every toe or heel heavy landing
didnt realize my progress was stagnating

rewatched footy of my favorite pros and they can land anyway/how without getting pitched, all seemingly riding tighter trucks. for example, reynolds rides indy blue bushings with 2-3 threads showing. i cant stand showing threads so the ace set had to go

threw in the green supercush 94a, nuts flush. rode loose trucks since i can remember but can still turn with these. cruised around and popped some nollie tricks faster than usual and rolled away like butter. not sure if its my higher center of gravity, strong ankles, 14" wb, being 200lbs, or big flipper feet but i can swerve. low profile kingpin nuts are on the way for a little more give

not sure why i was running near max palmer loose trucks with no intention to skate like him. loose trucks = style is a major misconception, especially if you cant roll away

Pretty much why I stopped bothering with Bones in my Ventures, stock bushings broken in turn great without having to go wobble loose. I realized I would have to do a hard swerve after throwing down my board to compensate for how loose I was having them.

Used to think that going looser helped with the pinch but some rigidity on the hanger is needed to keep your truck in position during the grind.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 15, 2022, 06:34:15 AM
I been out cruising. I stopped at my wallie spot. I’ve put away my car for a while and the Aces too.
There’s nothing so nice as a loose venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 15, 2022, 07:36:05 AM
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finally coming to terms that im too big for soft bushings
was on the ace low bushings for 2 months
wheelbiting on every toe or heel heavy landing
didnt realize my progress was stagnating

rewatched footy of my favorite pros and they can land anyway/how without getting pitched, all seemingly riding tighter trucks. for example, reynolds rides indy blue bushings with 2-3 threads showing. i cant stand showing threads so the ace set had to go

threw in the green supercush 94a, nuts flush. rode loose trucks since i can remember but can still turn with these. cruised around and popped some nollie tricks faster than usual and rolled away like butter. not sure if its my higher center of gravity, strong ankles, 14" wb, being 200lbs, or big flipper feet but i can swerve. low profile kingpin nuts are on the way for a little more give

not sure why i was running near max palmer loose trucks with no intention to skate like him. loose trucks = style is a major misconception, especially if you cant roll away
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Pretty much why I stopped bothering with Bones in my Ventures, stock bushings broken in turn great without having to go wobble loose. I realized I would have to do a hard swerve after throwing down my board to compensate for how loose I was having them.

Used to think that going looser helped with the pinch but some rigidity on the hanger is needed to keep your truck in position during the grind.

Most people who ride loose would be way better if they didn’t. I think if you can see someone flopping around or unable to not go straight after landing it’s too lose. Ishod runs his shit super loose and you would have zero clue. Reynolds runs his shit super tight and he still carves around.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fakie varial flip on March 15, 2022, 03:49:36 PM
Holy shit you guys weren't kidding

I replaced the top washer with a flat one

Wow. Just wow
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 15, 2022, 05:14:40 PM
Holy shit you guys weren't kidding

I replaced the top washer with a flat one

Wow. Just wow


Is it also because the flat washer is half the height of the normal one, so you are getting a mm extra of looseness?

One single mm is such a difference in the amount of kingpin clearance / bushing compression.


Or do people say it is not as much holding the bushing down so it can move a lot more when the truck turns?


Just curious.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fakie varial flip on March 15, 2022, 06:03:19 PM
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Holy shit you guys weren't kidding

I replaced the top washer with a flat one

Wow. Just wow
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Is it also because the flat washer is half the height of the normal one, so you are getting a mm extra of looseness?

One single mm is such a difference in the amount of kingpin clearance / bushing compression.


Or do people say it is not as much holding the bushing down so it can move a lot more when the truck turns?


Just curious.

While I am definitely not smart enough to know for certain...

It seems like it is both. I think the stock washer takes up way too much space vertically and horizontally. It feels like it prevents the hanger from flexing side to side - at some point your deck just starts leaning rather than turning. Replacing it with a flat washer it feels like a long wheelbase ace (this is probably a bad analogy but it's the closest I can come to with my limited truck knowledge from years of just indy and ace) where it will flex all the way and allow really long carves.

These are just my initial impressions though, and I could be way off. It's crazy how switching the washer kept all the pop and made it so I was able to slalom around like an idiot
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 15, 2022, 06:09:32 PM
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Holy shit you guys weren't kidding

I replaced the top washer with a flat one

Wow. Just wow
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Is it also because the flat washer is half the height of the normal one, so you are getting a mm extra of looseness?

One single mm is such a difference in the amount of kingpin clearance / bushing compression.


Or do people say it is not as much holding the bushing down so it can move a lot more when the truck turns?


Just curious.
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While I am definitely not smart enough to know for certain...

It seems like it is both. I think the stock washer takes up way too much space vertically and horizontally. It feels like it prevents the hanger from flexing side to side - at some point your deck just starts leaning rather than turning. Replacing it with a flat washer it feels like a long wheelbase ace (this is probably a bad analogy but it's the closest I can come to with my limited truck knowledge from years of just indy and ace) where it will flex all the way and allow really long carves.

These are just my initial impressions though, and I could be way off. It's crazy how switching the washer kept all the pop and made it so I was able to slalom around like an idiot


Yes, it all makes complete sense to me.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 15, 2022, 06:59:04 PM
Stock washer binds on the hanger, as in my hanger gets grooved from the washer.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thanksgiving on March 15, 2022, 08:49:07 PM
what size flat washer do i get for cone shaped bushings? considering picking up bones bushings mostly just for the washers...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 15, 2022, 09:06:47 PM
what size flat washer do i get for cone shaped bushings? considering picking up bones bushings mostly just for the washers...

Go to the hardware store and see what fits.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LewFarrell on March 15, 2022, 09:28:56 PM
what size flat washer do i get for cone shaped bushings? considering picking up bones bushings mostly just for the washers...

Muirskate has them or source with these specs:
 .377" Hole x .875" Diameter, x .08" Thick
9.6mm Hole x 22.2mm Diameter x 2mm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 16, 2022, 06:50:53 AM
What of those brand(s) would you prefer on venture v hollows?

8.125 Gx/Quasi
8.125 AWS/Habitat
8.18 FA/Hockey
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on March 16, 2022, 07:10:43 AM
What of those brand(s) would you prefer on venture v hollows?

8.125 Gx/Quasi
8.125 AWS/Habitat
8.18 FA/Hockey
AWS/Habitat.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 16, 2022, 07:14:28 AM
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What of those brand(s) would you prefer on venture v hollows?

8.125 Gx/Quasi
8.125 AWS/Habitat
8.18 FA/Hockey
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AWS/Habitat.

Thx.
Why them over the others?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on March 16, 2022, 08:07:43 AM
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What of those brand(s) would you prefer on venture v hollows?

8.125 Gx/Quasi
8.125 AWS/Habitat
8.18 FA/Hockey
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AWS/Habitat.
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Thx.
Why them over the others?
That shape works very well with Venture. Flip tricks especially.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 16, 2022, 09:19:48 AM
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What of those brand(s) would you prefer on venture v hollows?

8.125 Gx/Quasi
8.125 AWS/Habitat
8.18 FA/Hockey
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AWS/Habitat.
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Thx.
Why them over the others?
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That shape works very well with Venture. Flip tricks especially.


Did you try all of them?

But thanks. Good to know that that combination seems to work well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on March 16, 2022, 09:33:54 AM
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What of those brand(s) would you prefer on venture v hollows?

8.125 Gx/Quasi
8.125 AWS/Habitat
8.18 FA/Hockey
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AWS/Habitat.
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Thx.
Why them over the others?
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That shape works very well with Venture. Flip tricks especially.
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Did you try all of them?

But thanks. Good to know that that combination seems to work well.
just the FA and the AWS/Habitat.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 16, 2022, 09:43:29 AM
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What of those brand(s) would you prefer on venture v hollows?

8.125 Gx/Quasi
8.125 AWS/Habitat
8.18 FA/Hockey
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AWS/Habitat.
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Thx.
Why them over the others?
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That shape works very well with Venture. Flip tricks especially.
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Did you try all of them?

But thanks. Good to know that that combination seems to work well.
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just the FA and the AWS/Habitat.


Did you like them on FA too? What’s better on AWS?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on March 16, 2022, 09:48:37 AM
The shape just goes. The FA 8.18 has a super square shape.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 16, 2022, 09:54:41 AM
Ok, Never skated an fa or hockey and don’t know if I like it or not.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on March 16, 2022, 10:39:15 AM
Ok, Never skated an fa or hockey and don’t know if I like it or not.
I’d go with the Habitat. Not too square but more than a Baker or Chocolate. FA is very square.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on March 16, 2022, 10:59:49 AM
What of those brand(s) would you prefer on venture v hollows?

8.125 Gx/Quasi
8.125 AWS/Habitat
8.18 FA/Hockey

FA/hockey 8.18 on ventures is my favorite setup. I have cast and hollow 5.6 ventures and nerded out and combined the cast baseplate w/ hollow axle. Keeps the height + slightly shorter WB but lightens the truck a bit. So much pop on that setup. 14 WB seems helps avoid ghost pop even with steep tail on that shape
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 16, 2022, 11:10:59 AM
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What of those brand(s) would you prefer on venture v hollows?

8.125 Gx/Quasi
8.125 AWS/Habitat
8.18 FA/Hockey
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FA/hockey 8.18 on ventures is my favorite setup. I have cast and hollow 5.6 ventures and nerded out and combined the cast baseplate w/ hollow axle. Keeps the height + slightly shorter WB but lightens the truck a bit. So much pop on that setup. 14 WB seems helps avoid ghost pop even with steep tail on that shape

Interesting. Did you skate fa on average venture v hollows too and was it much different?

Did you skate the other mentioned brands with them?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on March 16, 2022, 12:25:17 PM
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What of those brand(s) would you prefer on venture v hollows?

8.125 Gx/Quasi
8.125 AWS/Habitat
8.18 FA/Hockey
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FA/hockey 8.18 on ventures is my favorite setup. I have cast and hollow 5.6 ventures and nerded out and combined the cast baseplate w/ hollow axle. Keeps the height + slightly shorter WB but lightens the truck a bit. So much pop on that setup. 14 WB seems helps avoid ghost pop even with steep tail on that shape
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Interesting. Did you skate fa on average venture v hollows too and was it much different?

Did you skate the other mentioned brands with them?

It was good on v hollows too I just like the slightly increased height on the casts. Never skated AWS/habitat and had one quasi 8.12 which felt too short and flat, I snapped the stubby tail within 2 hours backseating a kickflip so wrote off that shape forever. The 8.12 isn’t square like the 8.25 proto shape is, it’s a short stubby tailed popsicle
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on March 16, 2022, 12:26:47 PM
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What of those brand(s) would you prefer on venture v hollows?

8.125 Gx/Quasi
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FA/hockey 8.18 on ventures is my favorite setup. I have cast and hollow 5.6 ventures and nerded out and combined the cast baseplate w/ hollow axle. Keeps the height + slightly shorter WB but lightens the truck a bit. So much pop on that setup. 14 WB seems helps avoid ghost pop even with steep tail on that shape
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Interesting. Did you skate fa on average venture v hollows too and was it much different?

Did you skate the other mentioned brands with them?
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It was good on v hollows too I just like the slightly increased height on the casts. Never skated AWS/habitat and had one quasi 8.12 which felt too short and flat, I snapped the stubby tail within 2 hours backseating a kickflip so wrote off that shape forever. The 8.12 isn’t square like the 8.25 proto shape is, it’s a short stubby tailed popsicle
Weirdest shape ever. Rode it bc it was Quasi and I thought Tyler Bledsoe skated the shape. But super small tail and super flat kicks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on March 16, 2022, 12:40:09 PM
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What of those brand(s) would you prefer on venture v hollows?

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FA/hockey 8.18 on ventures is my favorite setup. I have cast and hollow 5.6 ventures and nerded out and combined the cast baseplate w/ hollow axle. Keeps the height + slightly shorter WB but lightens the truck a bit. So much pop on that setup. 14 WB seems helps avoid ghost pop even with steep tail on that shape
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Interesting. Did you skate fa on average venture v hollows too and was it much different?

Did you skate the other mentioned brands with them?
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It was good on v hollows too I just like the slightly increased height on the casts. Never skated AWS/habitat and had one quasi 8.12 which felt too short and flat, I snapped the stubby tail within 2 hours backseating a kickflip so wrote off that shape forever. The 8.12 isn’t square like the 8.25 proto shape is, it’s a short stubby tailed popsicle
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Weirdest shape ever. Rode it bc it was Quasi and I thought Tyler Bledsoe skated the shape. But super small tail and super flat kicks.

How BDK pops mile high flip tricks on that shape I’ll never comprehend
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 16, 2022, 12:51:45 PM
So interesting.

Then again a lot of the GX guys are on venture and they seem to do ok, and gx and quasi (I think) has the exact same shape :

https://youtu.be/ql0gDljW07Y



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Post by: Idk on March 16, 2022, 01:07:40 PM
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What of those brand(s) would you prefer on venture v hollows?

8.125 Gx/Quasi
8.125 AWS/Habitat
8.18 FA/Hockey
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FA/hockey 8.18 on ventures is my favorite setup. I have cast and hollow 5.6 ventures and nerded out and combined the cast baseplate w/ hollow axle. Keeps the height + slightly shorter WB but lightens the truck a bit. So much pop on that setup. 14 WB seems helps avoid ghost pop even with steep tail on that shape
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Interesting. Did you skate fa on average venture v hollows too and was it much different?

Did you skate the other mentioned brands with them?
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It was good on v hollows too I just like the slightly increased height on the casts. Never skated AWS/habitat and had one quasi 8.12 which felt too short and flat, I snapped the stubby tail within 2 hours backseating a kickflip so wrote off that shape forever. The 8.12 isn’t square like the 8.25 proto shape is, it’s a short stubby tailed popsicle
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Weirdest shape ever. Rode it bc it was Quasi and I thought Tyler Bledsoe skated the shape. But super small tail and super flat kicks.
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How BDK pops mile high flip tricks on that shape I’ll never comprehend
Doesnt he ride the 8.25 square nose shape?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 16, 2022, 01:32:17 PM
So interesting.

Then again a lot of the GX guys are on venture and they seem to do ok, and gx and quasi (I think) has the exact same shape :

https://youtu.be/ql0gDljW07Y

I've seen you ask several questions regarding board combos with ventures. Just try out the brands you're interested in and if you don't like one, I would just sell it to a kid in need for cheap. Most Crailtap shapes pair really nice with Ventures. Ben Degros also has shared what he thinks works best with Venture Highs > mellow kicks, shorter wheelbase, 2-3 fingers of flat. Then it seems like he can skate 5.6 V-hollows on any standard shape (14.25 WB) due to weight savings and lower height.

I had an okay time on a FA board with Venture highs as the steep nose affected my nollie kickflips. Lots of nollie ghost pop which is unfavorable as nollie kickflips are my favorite flip trick to do. Everything else worked just fine. That's my experience though. If that situation occurs to you (ghost pop), you can counteract it with smaller wheels before swapping boards or trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Jonny7.5Alive on March 16, 2022, 01:54:08 PM
I've said it many times but hockey 8" with venture low hollow is the best combo I've ever skated. Try that 
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Post by: Ok on March 16, 2022, 02:05:22 PM
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8.125 Gx/Quasi
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FA/hockey 8.18 on ventures is my favorite setup. I have cast and hollow 5.6 ventures and nerded out and combined the cast baseplate w/ hollow axle. Keeps the height + slightly shorter WB but lightens the truck a bit. So much pop on that setup. 14 WB seems helps avoid ghost pop even with steep tail on that shape
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Interesting. Did you skate fa on average venture v hollows too and was it much different?

Did you skate the other mentioned brands with them?
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It was good on v hollows too I just like the slightly increased height on the casts. Never skated AWS/habitat and had one quasi 8.12 which felt too short and flat, I snapped the stubby tail within 2 hours backseating a kickflip so wrote off that shape forever. The 8.12 isn’t square like the 8.25 proto shape is, it’s a short stubby tailed popsicle
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Weirdest shape ever. Rode it bc it was Quasi and I thought Tyler Bledsoe skated the shape. But super small tail and super flat kicks.
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How BDK pops mile high flip tricks on that shape I’ll never comprehend
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Doesnt he ride the 8.25 square nose shape?

Yo I’m real thirsty for the BDK setup talk…

I have that 8.125 quasi and it’s different for certain.

SlapCracken…doesn’t come off as someone who skates, or is asking these questions in good faith. If I’m wrong, I apologize.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 16, 2022, 02:24:09 PM
@notinternetfamous

Good idea to just try it.  @ok
I do skate. Just a chronic overthinker. I just can’t help it.

Now I was reading baker decks (8-8.1)have short tails too, pretty much same length like quasi, and I was enjoying my baker on thunders. Was great. Maybe short tails are not too bad for me. At least not on venture. I’ll check it out.

Right now I have an 8“ magenta on ventures and I think the tail is short too. Didn’t skate it yet though , cause injured
I tried some manuals on it though and it sucked. Nosemanuals really good, but normal manuals suck on it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 16, 2022, 03:28:22 PM
How long have you given the setup? I aim for 5 sessions which ends up about 10 hours before I’ll give up and move on. Recently I did that with a deck only to have a great 6th session and rekindle it. I changed my wheel size when I first got it from 50 to just under 54, which threw me off at first.

Your Magenta is a standard BBS generic shape and likely has very average dimensions. Those shapes aren’t flat but aren’t too steep, not long but not short, not full but not Baker tapered, etc.

I skated Venture Highs on 14” and never liked it. Pop felt too heavy for how small the board was and never got my timing right. I liked Thunders and Indy forged on those dimensions much more. I actually really liked Venture on a Quasi 8.25 with a 14.25 and most WB in that vicinity, but on 14.38 they felt a bit hefty.

It kinda sucks to have gone through that many hours tweaking but you accept this when you enter madness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 16, 2022, 03:44:34 PM
How long have you given the setup? I aim for 5 sessions which ends up about 10 hours before I’ll give up and move on. Recently I did that with a deck only to have a great 6th session and rekindle it. I changed my wheel size when I first got it from 50 to just under 54, which threw me off at first.

Your Magenta is a standard BBS generic shape and likely has very average dimensions. Those shapes aren’t flat but aren’t too steep, not long but not short, not full but not Baker tapered, etc.

I skated Venture Highs on 14” and never liked it. Pop felt too heavy for how small the board was and never got my timing right. I liked Thunders and Indy forged on those dimensions much more. I actually really liked Venture on a Quasi 8.25 with a 14.25 and most WB in that vicinity, but on 14.38 they felt a bit hefty.

It kinda sucks to have gone through that many hours tweaking but you accept this when you enter madness.

It’s a brand new setup! I didn’t skate it yet cause I got injured before I could. I tried some manuals like I said and did one Ollie, one kickflip, one Nollie flip and one Tre. That’s it. Brand new everything and first times venture , so I might get used to it. Flips were all alright, but I tried one Ollie and had the feeling that I couldn’t pop it as high as I could with other decks , but like I said- I didn’t have a real chance to skate it since unfortunately.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on March 16, 2022, 04:34:19 PM
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How long have you given the setup? I aim for 5 sessions which ends up about 10 hours before I’ll give up and move on. Recently I did that with a deck only to have a great 6th session and rekindle it. I changed my wheel size when I first got it from 50 to just under 54, which threw me off at first.

Your Magenta is a standard BBS generic shape and likely has very average dimensions. Those shapes aren’t flat but aren’t too steep, not long but not short, not full but not Baker tapered, etc.

I skated Venture Highs on 14” and never liked it. Pop felt too heavy for how small the board was and never got my timing right. I liked Thunders and Indy forged on those dimensions much more. I actually really liked Venture on a Quasi 8.25 with a 14.25 and most WB in that vicinity, but on 14.38 they felt a bit hefty.

It kinda sucks to have gone through that many hours tweaking but you accept this when you enter madness.
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It’s a brand new setup! I didn’t skate it yet cause I got injured before I could. I tried some manuals like I said and did one Ollie, one kickflip, one Nollie flip and one Tre. That’s it. Brand new everything and first times venture , so I might get used to it. Flips were all alright, but I tried one Ollie and had the feeling that I couldn’t pop it as high as I could with other decks , but like I said- I didn’t have a real chance to skate it since unfortunately.

could try skating it backwards too, if you're feeling spicy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 17, 2022, 09:48:29 AM
Tried to measure the magenta big plant 8“ board tail. It’s pretty short, but I’m too stupid to measure. Around 6.3something. No way over 6.4, that’s for sure.
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Larghezza: 8 "
Lunghezza: 31.625 "
Wheelbase: 14"
Nose: 6.875 "
Tail: 6.4"

Just checked all the decks I skated and they all had a 6.4 or under tail. One had 6.45. but they were on thunder and old royals.
Interesting. Never even knew what tail length I skated.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on March 18, 2022, 07:52:39 PM
Does anyone know the wheelbase difference between venture lo and hi?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: maggot cunt on March 19, 2022, 12:51:59 AM
Does anyone know the wheelbase difference between venture lo and hi?

someone correct me if i am wrong but there isnt one. the hi’s and lo’s have the exact same baseplate, they just have different hangers. cast vs forged are slightly different though with forged extending the wb slightly more than cast
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on March 19, 2022, 01:19:50 AM
I copped some of these bust crew ventures like a year ago and i literally cannot tell the difference from Indy's. Going to thunder next probs cause they're the lightest ones besides ace and i want extra pop. Aces look like they wanna snap so bad.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on March 19, 2022, 05:34:57 AM
I copped some of these bust crew ventures like a year ago and i literally cannot tell the difference from Indy's. Going to thunder next probs cause they're the lightest ones besides ace and i want extra pop. Aces look like they wanna snap so bad.

If you can't tell the difference between ventures and Indy's, then just try whatever you want, it's not going to bother you.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 19, 2022, 07:12:32 AM
What a fucking troll…..comes in here telling us they feel the same….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 19, 2022, 07:38:34 AM
To be fair the pop feel between Indy Standardsand Venture cast is pretty close to me, Venture being a bit heavier. Turn obviously different but maybe if you rode fairly loose or tight it’s close enough?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LewFarrell on March 19, 2022, 08:50:02 AM
Does anyone know the wheelbase difference between venture lo and hi?

My forged lo's and hi's are both +3.4375".
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 19, 2022, 07:46:00 PM
I just noticed Lil Wayne rides ventures. That shit is sick.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on March 20, 2022, 01:12:01 PM
Guy that pops the least uses trucks that pop the most

Makes sense
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on March 20, 2022, 02:53:43 PM
Guy that pops the least uses trucks that pop the most

Makes sense

So on a completely related note. I’ll probably set up a board with ventures this week. Ha.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Maxi205 on March 21, 2022, 11:13:23 AM
How do you modify your Ventures to get the best turn out of them? I read that some people swear on indy aftermarket bushings in Ventures others say that they turn best when using a flat top washer. I like my trucks to be quite loose and I‘m built like a greyhound weighing only 135 pounds what truck setup/bushing combo would you suggest to me.

*I tried them stock and did not like the turn at all the bushings seemed way to hard coming from ace af1
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 21, 2022, 11:16:39 AM
How do you modify your Ventures to get the best turn out of them? I read that some people swear on indy aftermarket bushings in Ventures others say that they turn best when using a flat top washer. I like my trucks to be quite loose and I‘m built like a greyhound weighing only 135 pounds what truck setup/bushing combo would you suggest to me.

Flat top washer and stock bushings should suffice. If still too tight, then try some softer bushings that are the same shape (indy aftermarkets), the stock venture ones are 90a fyi.
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Post by: Maxi205 on March 21, 2022, 11:48:02 AM
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How do you modify your Ventures to get the best turn out of them? I read that some people swear on indy aftermarket bushings in Ventures others say that they turn best when using a flat top washer. I like my trucks to be quite loose and I‘m built like a greyhound weighing only 135 pounds what truck setup/bushing combo would you suggest to me.
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Flat top washer and stock bushings should suffice. If still too tight, then try some softer bushings that are the same shape (indy aftermarkets), the stock venture ones are 90a fyi.


Thanks I will try it, do you get just regular flat washers from the hardware store ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 21, 2022, 03:02:07 PM
Just watched some Adrian Del campo Clips and wondered if he skates 8.0 or 8.25 decks? He often skates his own models but they come in both widths
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bbk on March 21, 2022, 03:35:55 PM
A lot of pros skate their preferred shape with any graphic, you can't tell from board graphic alone.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 21, 2022, 06:07:28 PM
All I can say to this is:

Venture v hollows and magenta 8.0 deck manuals suck. I don’t know if it’s the tail length (8.4) or me , cause it’s the first deck I ride on ventures. Maybe I only need to get used to it. Nose manuals are great though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 21, 2022, 06:50:17 PM
All I can say to this is:

Venture v hollows and magenta 8.0 deck manuals suck. I don’t know if it’s the tail length (8.4) or me , cause it’s the first deck I ride on ventures. Maybe I only need to get used to it. Nose manuals are great though

It’s probably a K shape. I like the combination but I (8.25) can see how someone might not. I prefer cast trucks on a k shape
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 22, 2022, 02:10:16 AM
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All I can say to this is:

Venture v hollows and magenta 8.0 deck manuals suck. I don’t know if it’s the tail length (8.4) or me , cause it’s the first deck I ride on ventures. Maybe I only need to get used to it. Nose manuals are great though
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It’s probably a K shape. I like the combination but I (8.25) can see how someone might not. I prefer cast trucks on a k shape

K shape? Never heard before!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 22, 2022, 07:09:10 AM
Magenta are BBS. It’s a pretty generic shape used by many brands. K refers to Clutch I think and Magenta are not Clutch.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: backside_frontside on March 22, 2022, 08:07:05 AM
Are the manuals easy to hold with the FA 8.18 setup? I had a WKND board 8.25 VA with v-hollows and 52mm wheels and manuals were insanely good. (I also like how WKND has exact dimensions of their boards on their website. I think primitive and crailtap does this too.)

I've got Venture v-hollows on my Quasi 8.125 x 14.125. Had standard Venture highs on my FA 8.18 (I forget the WB, gasp!). I run the stock bushings (gasp!) and stock tightness (also gasp!). Both manualed the same. You're better off just practicing manuals.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 22, 2022, 03:49:53 PM
All I can say to this is:

Venture v hollows and magenta 8.0 deck manuals suck. I don’t know if it’s the tail length (8.4) or me , cause it’s the first deck I ride on ventures. Maybe I only need to get used to it. Nose manuals are great though
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Are the manuals easy to hold with the FA 8.18 setup? I had a WKND board 8.25 VA with v-hollows and 52mm wheels and manuals were insanely good. (I also like how WKND has exact dimensions of their boards on their website. I think primitive and crailtap does this too.)
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I've got Venture v-hollows on my Quasi 8.125 x 14.125. Had standard Venture highs on my FA 8.18 (I forget the WB, gasp!). I run the stock bushings (gasp!) and stock tightness (also gasp!). Both manualed the same. You're better off just practicing manuals.


Yes, it is definitely a different point than Indy, Thunder or Ace.  Having all of those and Ventures on various setups, it is such a different and sometimes weird feeling with the same deck on different trucks, as each will have a different manual / pivot point, so Ventures will feel the heaviest to lift after Thunder, then Indy and then Ace are the lightest, with the shortest wheelbase.

Once you are used to it, it is not a problem.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 22, 2022, 06:24:12 PM
What helps me with manuals on ventures is you can be toe heavy on a nose manual or heel heavy on a manual and you don’t wheelbite and the play back and forth is forgiving. 
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Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 22, 2022, 11:14:29 PM
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All I can say to this is:

Venture v hollows and magenta 8.0 deck manuals suck. I don’t know if it’s the tail length (8.4) or me , cause it’s the first deck I ride on ventures. Maybe I only need to get used to it. Nose manuals are great though
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Are the manuals easy to hold with the FA 8.18 setup? I had a WKND board 8.25 VA with v-hollows and 52mm wheels and manuals were insanely good. (I also like how WKND has exact dimensions of their boards on their website. I think primitive and crailtap does this too.)
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I've got Venture v-hollows on my Quasi 8.125 x 14.125. Had standard Venture highs on my FA 8.18 (I forget the WB, gasp!). I run the stock bushings (gasp!) and stock tightness (also gasp!). Both manualed the same. You're better off just practicing manuals.
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Yes, it is definitely a different point than Indy, Thunder or Ace.  Having all of those and Ventures on various setups, it is such a different and sometimes weird feeling with the same deck on different trucks, as each will have a different manual / pivot point, so Ventures will feel the heaviest to lift after Thunder, then Indy and then Ace are the lightest, with the shortest wheelbase.

Once you are used to it, it is not a problem.


I really hope I will get used to it. Manualing around for two weeks at home sometimes , cause that’s the only thing I can do with my injury right now, and it’s still strange how it feels.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on March 25, 2022, 12:07:07 PM
Venture 2023

Always one step ahead
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 25, 2022, 07:37:07 PM
Magenta are BBS. It’s a pretty generic shape used by many brands. K refers to Clutch I think and Magenta are not Clutch.

I figured all toa was clutch. K shape and the basic bbs shape are pretty much the same board.

I think I might have convinced someone to switch trucks again today.

If I had one more set I’d hook him up. Probably just going to switch to new hangers give him my hollow plates with an old cast hanger.

He was having low pop rocket flips. Like one out of five were ok. I said try my board.

Pow!!!! Stomp. First one. He’s like dayem this board has pop. I was like venture trucks man big wheels short wb.

Kid’s been skating for like a year maybe a little more. He and his friend are mad good for one year.

I don’t think they street skate tho. I’m like the opposite. Street is the most. Park is because I want to roll in to stuff
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goingapelikenigo on March 26, 2022, 03:29:29 AM
What helps me with manuals on ventures is you can be toe heavy on a nose manual or heel heavy on a manual and you don’t wheelbite and the play back and forth is forgiving.
yes ! this is what helped me with my nose mannys.
used to be able to land them sometimes on indys and now i can do them often w my hollows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: juniormint on March 26, 2022, 04:46:05 AM
Just came to say I’ve been skating my cast 6.1s for a bit more than a month now and I actually really like the turn. Could be that it’s warming up where I am now but the stock yellow bushings and factory tightness is real nice. Think I will stick with these trucks for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cosmicgypsies on March 26, 2022, 11:24:44 AM
Been running 5.6s with 90a supercush and a flat washer since around last June/July. Went with those as (I could be misquoting) they're the only replacement bushings that won't change the geometry and had a lovely time on them but wanted something with a bit more lean to them. Lower duro supercush were out of stock here and I ended up randomly picking up some Bones Hardcore soft bushings.

Threw em in and had a few hours cruising around etc - turn seems a lot deeper compared to the supercush with less wheelbite too. Didn't really throw too many flip tricks as my backs a bit jacked but they felt same as ever. I'm sure they've already been mentioned in here but if anyone enjoys fucking with Ventures, the softs are a good combo. Have blew a set of them out in the past so will have to see how they fare but for now I'm enjoying them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 26, 2022, 11:53:35 AM
Been running 5.6s with 90a supercush and a flat washer since around last June/July. Went with those as (I could be misquoting) they're the only replacement bushings that won't change the geometry and had a lovely time on them but wanted something with a bit more lean to them. Lower duro supercush were out of stock here and I ended up randomly picking up some Bones Hardcore soft bushings.

Threw em in and had a few hours cruising around etc - turn seems a lot deeper compared to the supercush with less wheelbite too. Didn't really throw too many flip tricks as my backs a bit jacked but they felt same as ever. I'm sure they've already been mentioned in here but if anyone enjoys fucking with Ventures, the softs are a good combo. Have blew a set of them out in the past so will have to see how they fare but for now I'm enjoying them.

In my experience bones bushings do work really well with Ventures. For longevity purposes, and I prefer hard bushings, loosened. Obviously there is a bunch of personal preference…weight (I’m 170+), lots of factors. That being said, I have a hard time seeing the advantages, especially long term, of the blues. Fuck I can’t even keep the mediums going for that long.
Not trying some to shot on your discovery, more giving you an option for when those things die.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on March 26, 2022, 11:54:29 AM
Pros you know of that skate venture lo?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 26, 2022, 12:05:28 PM
Pros you know of that skate venture lo?
yuto and brandon westgate are two that I know of
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Post by: Idk on March 26, 2022, 12:12:41 PM
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Pros you know of that skate venture lo?
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yuto and brandon westgate are two that I know of
Gino. PJ Ladd. Youness. JB Gillett.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cosmicgypsies on March 26, 2022, 12:25:32 PM
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Been running 5.6s with 90a supercush and a flat washer since around last June/July. Went with those as (I could be misquoting) they're the only replacement bushings that won't change the geometry and had a lovely time on them but wanted something with a bit more lean to them. Lower duro supercush were out of stock here and I ended up randomly picking up some Bones Hardcore soft bushings.

Threw em in and had a few hours cruising around etc - turn seems a lot deeper compared to the supercush with less wheelbite too. Didn't really throw too many flip tricks as my backs a bit jacked but they felt same as ever. I'm sure they've already been mentioned in here but if anyone enjoys fucking with Ventures, the softs are a good combo. Have blew a set of them out in the past so will have to see how they fare but for now I'm enjoying them.
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In my experience bones bushings do work really well with Ventures. For longevity purposes, and I prefer hard bushings, loosened. Obviously there is a bunch of personal preference…weight (I’m 170+), lots of factors. That being said, I have a hard time seeing the advantages, especially long term, of the blues. Fuck I can’t even keep the mediums going for that long.
Not trying some to shot on your discovery, more giving you an option for when those things die.

Oh yeah 100% they'll blow out as has always been my experience with bones bushings, though I'm a bit of a skinny bastard at around 140-145ish so hopefully that'll happen later rather than sooner. I didn't plan to buy them I just happened to be picking up some mtb parts and long story short the guy who owns the store used to be pro for Deathbox in the 90s so they stock some skate stuff here and there, saw em on the shelf and thought fuck it why not. Appreciate the info and your experiences though, always good to share the knowledge!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 26, 2022, 01:03:11 PM
Jesus I really crushed another post with a bunch of half thoughts and mistaken autocorrections.

Wasn’t trying to ‘shit’ on your blues, I prefer the hards for longevity aaaand for the quicker rebound (this falls into the ‘bullshit that I make up in my head’ realm’/obviously not scientific).

Aaaanyways: what a rad shop experience! I of course really prefer to shop at skate shops that are strictly skateboarding…but that wasn’t a viable business model when I was growing up. Boards were always in the corner of some bike/snowboard/hardware/pharmaceutical/music/weed pipe etc store. I have a very fond memory of those experiences, now, and have a soft spot for shops that are just trying to make it work/help out, however they can.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 26, 2022, 02:46:26 PM
really loving the supercush 94s, feels like 90-92a broken in
anyone have experience with the purp 97a?
feel like i should ride harder bushings until they get too soft
im a heavy fuck no matter how skinny i look
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on March 26, 2022, 04:06:31 PM
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Pros you know of that skate venture lo?
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yuto and brandon westgate are two that I know of
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Gino. PJ Ladd. Youness. JB Gillett.

Not too long after Ace released the AF1's he was skating 33's in those for awhile and seemed like he was stayin at Joey T's place for months, and then ever since he's been back on Venture lows skating with PJ lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fooj on March 26, 2022, 06:14:43 PM
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Pros you know of that skate venture lo?
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yuto and brandon westgate are two that I know of
Wow kinda surprised yuto skates lo’s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 26, 2022, 06:27:10 PM
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Pros you know of that skate venture lo?
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yuto and brandon westgate are two that I know of
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Gino. PJ Ladd. Youness. JB Gillett.
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Not too long after Ace released the AF1's he was skating 33's in those for awhile and seemed like he was stayin at Joey T's place for months, and then ever since he's been back on Venture lows skating with PJ lol.

Who?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: logjammin on March 27, 2022, 12:28:25 AM
Matt Field, my b
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on March 27, 2022, 06:55:15 AM
Help please! Bought some standard venture high 5.8s recently after only skating indy for 20 years....i want to love the ventures, but i just cant seem to get them to turn close to my indys. They have the stock purple clearish bushings in them so not sure how hard those are...i have the kingpin nut as loose as you can get it without falling off. Probably had about 10 sessions on the ventures and still kot turning good. Should i wait it out? What bushings do you recommend to get them a deeper turn? I saw some people saying the deluxe supercush bushings are good in ventures but wasnt sure if i should go with the 91 or 88 duro on those....does anyone run bones soft bushings in there? Ive never used aftermarket bushings in trucks and normally just ran the standard orange bushings in indys and they turned really good for me. Let me know what yall think. Would greatly appreciate any info !
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on March 27, 2022, 07:31:01 AM
Help please! Bought some standard venture high 5.8s recently after only skating indy for 20 years....i want to love the ventures, but i just cant seem to get them to turn close to my indys. They have the stock purple clearish bushings in them so not sure how hard those are...i have the kingpin nut as loose as you can get it without falling off. Probably had about 10 sessions on the ventures and still kot turning good. Should i wait it out? What bushings do you recommend to get them a deeper turn? I saw some people saying the deluxe supercush bushings are good in ventures but wasnt sure if i should go with the 91 or 88 duro on those....does anyone run bones soft bushings in there? Ive never used aftermarket bushings in trucks and normally just ran the standard orange bushings in indys and they turned really good for me. Let me know what yall think. Would greatly appreciate any info !
Bones bushings. But also if something worked for 20 years why change it?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on March 27, 2022, 07:39:20 AM
Help please! Bought some standard venture high 5.8s recently after only skating indy for 20 years....i want to love the ventures, but i just cant seem to get them to turn close to my indys. They have the stock purple clearish bushings in them so not sure how hard those are...i have the kingpin nut as loose as you can get it without falling off. Probably had about 10 sessions on the ventures and still kot turning good. Should i wait it out? What bushings do you recommend to get them a deeper turn? I saw some people saying the deluxe supercush bushings are good in ventures but wasnt sure if i should go with the 91 or 88 duro on those....does anyone run bones soft bushings in there? Ive never used aftermarket bushings in trucks and normally just ran the standard orange bushings in indys and they turned really good for me. Let me know what yall think. Would greatly appreciate any info !

so just to get it out of the way all color bushings on ventures that come stock are the same durometer. purple, yellow, red etc - all the same
now you have a few options as far as getting a deeper turn goes:
- flat top washer
- supercush 90a's will be the same as stock so you probably won't notice a difference, but i swear by supercush 90a's if i have to replace. people do seem to enjoy the 88's as well, and bones for as long as they last before blowing out
- you can throw some wax in the pivot cup to help things out too
- panic mode: sell 'em and get indy's again lol (obv you are trying to make the ventures work though, and kudos to you for that)

of those choices, i would try wax in pivot cup and a flat top washer first. ventures aren't really going to 'indy out' at any point in my experience, but that will definitely help things out a little
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sn00p on March 27, 2022, 08:06:31 AM
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Help please! Bought some standard venture high 5.8s recently after only skating indy for 20 years....i want to love the ventures, but i just cant seem to get them to turn close to my indys. They have the stock purple clearish bushings in them so not sure how hard those are...i have the kingpin nut as loose as you can get it without falling off. Probably had about 10 sessions on the ventures and still kot turning good. Should i wait it out? What bushings do you recommend to get them a deeper turn? I saw some people saying the deluxe supercush bushings are good in ventures but wasnt sure if i should go with the 91 or 88 duro on those....does anyone run bones soft bushings in there? Ive never used aftermarket bushings in trucks and normally just ran the standard orange bushings in indys and they turned really good for me. Let me know what yall think. Would greatly appreciate any info !
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so just to get it out of the way all color bushings on ventures that come stock are the same durometer. purple, yellow, red etc - all the same
now you have a few options as far as getting a deeper turn goes:
- flat top washer
- supercush 90a's will be the same as stock so you probably won't notice a difference, but i swear by supercush 90a's if i have to replace. people do seem to enjoy the 88's as well, and bones for as long as they last before blowing out
- you can throw some wax in the pivot cup to help things out too
- panic mode: sell 'em and get indy's again lol (obv you are trying to make the ventures work though, and kudos to you for that)

of those choices, i would try wax in pivot cup and a flat top washer first. ventures aren't really going to 'indy out' at any point in my experience, but that will definitely help things out a little

Flat top washer really does make a world of difference. I don’t know why venture doesn’t just include them stock.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 27, 2022, 08:16:59 AM
really loving the supercush 94s, feels like 90-92a broken in
anyone have experience with the purp 97a?
feel like i should ride harder bushings until they get too soft
im a heavy fuck no matter how skinny i look

Memory might be bad but haven’t you posted about a ton of bushing combos that are supposed to be the best for Ventures? How long are you spending on these setups cuz it seems like you’ve tried about every bushing on the market now.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fakie varial flip on March 27, 2022, 10:48:48 AM
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Help please! Bought some standard venture high 5.8s recently after only skating indy for 20 years....i want to love the ventures, but i just cant seem to get them to turn close to my indys. They have the stock purple clearish bushings in them so not sure how hard those are...i have the kingpin nut as loose as you can get it without falling off. Probably had about 10 sessions on the ventures and still kot turning good. Should i wait it out? What bushings do you recommend to get them a deeper turn? I saw some people saying the deluxe supercush bushings are good in ventures but wasnt sure if i should go with the 91 or 88 duro on those....does anyone run bones soft bushings in there? Ive never used aftermarket bushings in trucks and normally just ran the standard orange bushings in indys and they turned really good for me. Let me know what yall think. Would greatly appreciate any info !
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so just to get it out of the way all color bushings on ventures that come stock are the same durometer. purple, yellow, red etc - all the same
now you have a few options as far as getting a deeper turn goes:
- flat top washer
- supercush 90a's will be the same as stock so you probably won't notice a difference, but i swear by supercush 90a's if i have to replace. people do seem to enjoy the 88's as well, and bones for as long as they last before blowing out
- you can throw some wax in the pivot cup to help things out too
- panic mode: sell 'em and get indy's again lol (obv you are trying to make the ventures work though, and kudos to you for that)

of those choices, i would try wax in pivot cup and a flat top washer first. ventures aren't really going to 'indy out' at any point in my experience, but that will definitely help things out a little
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Flat top washer really does make a world of difference. I don’t know why venture doesn’t just include them stock.

Couldn't agree more. All i've done is swap the top washer to a flat washer from the bones bushings package and they turn like a longer wheelbase indy. It's crazy that it doesn't just come this way stock
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 27, 2022, 11:03:06 AM
There are some advantages with using the stock washer, but yes, if more turning is needed, flat top is the way to go. The wax in the pivot cup, or bike grease, or whatever lube, also works pretty well.
All of the suggestions listed above by others, work great. Im just chiming in to say the same. I actually like the stock bushing, the cylinder bottom bushing is more stable, and I like it. Using the bones bushing makes the turn quicker/deeper, less stable. Blah blah
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on March 27, 2022, 11:07:23 AM
Thanks everyone. Sounds like the flat washer on top is the way to go. Ima go grab some today and see how it does. Already waxed inside the pivot cup this morning now just need the flat washers. Appreciate The feedback
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on March 27, 2022, 11:30:26 AM
Thanks everyone. Sounds like the flat washer on top is the way to go. Ima go grab some today and see how it does. Already waxed inside the pivot cup this morning now just need the flat washers. Appreciate The feedback

I was feeling the same way about my Ventures at first, and then I put a set of stock Indy bushings in and that was what worked for me.

You mentioned you like the stock Indy bushings, so it’s probably worth a try if you don’t like the flat washer.

I also love the Supercush 88s. Never been disappointed by those.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 27, 2022, 11:51:58 AM
Go buy a t-shirt….

https://youtu.be/shKJ3kcSkh0
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 27, 2022, 03:22:05 PM
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really loving the supercush 94s, feels like 90-92a broken in
anyone have experience with the purp 97a?
feel like i should ride harder bushings until they get too soft
im a heavy fuck no matter how skinny i look
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Memory might be bad but haven’t you posted about a ton of bushing combos that are supposed to be the best for Ventures? How long are you spending on these setups cuz it seems like you’ve tried about every bushing on the market now.
ive tried some softer bushings, recommended the ones i liked
switched to harder duros to find out its my preference
dont think ive been the guy to say theres a definitive combo
but if youre itching to prove me wrong, feel free to double check

how to alter the turn is a FAQ in this thread
at $5-10 a set, its easy to build insight + help pals who ask
if im trying something new, bushings stay in for 1-2 months
immediate change if they suck

only tried 6 different sets so far and 4 of them were less >90a
definitely not every set on the market lol
which is why i was asking about harder bushings
maybe youre confusing me with someone else
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on March 27, 2022, 04:52:55 PM
Would you guys rather ride venture 5.8 high cast on a quasi 8.25 or independent 144 standards. I really want to ride the ventures with it but it tapers down to like 8.125 in the back truck and I'm afraid it will fuck with me lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 27, 2022, 05:03:12 PM
Would you guys rather ride venture 5.8 high cast on a quasi 8.25 or independent 144 standards. I really want to ride the ventures with it but it tapers down to like 8.125 in the back truck and I'm afraid it will fuck with me lol.


Just do what I do: shamefully switch back and forth leaving all types of super fucked up wheel bites…if someone ever sees the underside of my board, oof. Won’t need forensics to find the kook.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on March 27, 2022, 05:09:54 PM
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Would you guys rather ride venture 5.8 high cast on a quasi 8.25 or independent 144 standards. I really want to ride the ventures with it but it tapers down to like 8.125 in the back truck and I'm afraid it will fuck with me lol.
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Just do what I do: shamefully switch back and forth leaving all types of super fucked up wheel bites…if someone ever sees the underside of my board, oof. Won’t need forensics to find the kook.
That's probably what I'll end up doing lol. Won't be the first time and definitely won't be the last time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 27, 2022, 06:06:05 PM
I’ve ridden and liked both it’s really up to what truck you prefer and you won’t see any more wheel than normal. Is it the Proto shape?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 27, 2022, 06:12:14 PM
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really loving the supercush 94s, feels like 90-92a broken in
anyone have experience with the purp 97a?
feel like i should ride harder bushings until they get too soft
im a heavy fuck no matter how skinny i look
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Memory might be bad but haven’t you posted about a ton of bushing combos that are supposed to be the best for Ventures? How long are you spending on these setups cuz it seems like you’ve tried about every bushing on the market now.
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ive tried some softer bushings, recommended the ones i liked
switched to harder duros to find out its my preference
dont think ive been the guy to say theres a definitive combo
but if youre itching to prove me wrong, feel free to double check

how to alter the turn is a FAQ in this thread
at $5-10 a set, its easy to build insight + help pals who ask
if im trying something new, bushings stay in for 1-2 months
immediate change if they suck

only tried 6 different sets so far and 4 of them were less >90a
definitely not every set on the market lol
which is why i was asking about harder bushings
maybe youre confusing me with someone else

Checked your post history and it was you. 6 sets is a lot to try, but I missed the posts where you noted that it just wasn’t for you and switching to harder bushings is doing you well. No hate on trying things out, just seemed like a ton of work.

I ride slightly tighter Indy’s than friends- like 1-1.5 full threads showing with the stock bushings. I could put blues in but am trying to skate my trucks as stock as possible aside from wax in the pivots. Tom Knox and Matt Gottwig have skated Indy’s with 2-3 threads showing in the rear so although it’s unsightly, can’t knock what works. Bobby used to ride Bones hards in his Indy’s and cranks his Ventures a bit too.

Are there any bigger skaters that ride Wobbly?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spicysk8rboi on March 27, 2022, 06:16:36 PM
After about 10 sessions on my Ventures(stock), they really are the only trucks that matter. Love the way they sound and the way feel when grinding. Turn was different I guess, I didn’t notice too much of a difference after the third session when I was fully used to them. Love these trucks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on March 27, 2022, 06:21:16 PM
What is the difference between venture 5.2 and 5.25? I see them on different sites
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on March 27, 2022, 06:24:09 PM
I’ve ridden and liked both it’s really up to what truck you prefer and you won’t see any more wheel than normal. Is it the Proto shape?
It's not the proto but I'm pretty sure it's the same shape. It's a team graphic. I think I'll try the venture and worst case scenario I'll not like it and put the 144 on.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 27, 2022, 06:43:37 PM
What is the difference between venture 5.2 and 5.25? I see them on different sites


I am thinking there is no difference, with it just being how shops and places list the trucks, both being with an 8" axle.

After looking at the Venture size chart from their site, there might have been a number difference only between the current chart and what Streetcorner Dist used to put out, before Venture moved to be under DLX Distribution, but there is no "official" size 5.25 listed anywhere.


From the current line up there is 5.0 for 7.62" axles, 5.2 for 8" axles, 5.6 for 8.25" axles and so on.


https://venturetrucks.net/sizes/


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1042/3036/products/venture-trucks-size-guide_4_1_1_1200x1200_ac27555a-3230-4683-ab34-defd122fe829_grande.jpg)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 27, 2022, 07:08:05 PM
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really loving the supercush 94s, feels like 90-92a broken in
anyone have experience with the purp 97a?
feel like i should ride harder bushings until they get too soft
im a heavy fuck no matter how skinny i look
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Memory might be bad but haven’t you posted about a ton of bushing combos that are supposed to be the best for Ventures? How long are you spending on these setups cuz it seems like you’ve tried about every bushing on the market now.
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ive tried some softer bushings, recommended the ones i liked
switched to harder duros to find out its my preference
dont think ive been the guy to say theres a definitive combo
but if youre itching to prove me wrong, feel free to double check

how to alter the turn is a FAQ in this thread
at $5-10 a set, its easy to build insight + help pals who ask
if im trying something new, bushings stay in for 1-2 months
immediate change if they suck

only tried 6 different sets so far and 4 of them were less >90a
definitely not every set on the market lol
which is why i was asking about harder bushings
maybe youre confusing me with someone else
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Checked your post history and it was you. 6 sets is a lot to try, but I missed the posts where you noted that it just wasn’t for you and switching to harder bushings is doing you well. No hate on trying things out, just seemed like a ton of work.

I ride slightly tighter Indy’s than friends- like 1-1.5 full threads showing with the stock bushings. I could put blues in but am trying to skate my trucks as stock as possible aside from wax in the pivots. Tom Knox and Matt Gottwig have skated Indy’s with 2-3 threads showing in the rear so although it’s unsightly, can’t knock what works. Bobby used to ride Bones hards in his Indy’s and cranks his Ventures a bit too.

Are there any bigger skaters that ride Wobbly?

In my experience, tight trucks can still turn pretty well, depends on a lot of factors, but yeah, cranking the bushings down some doesn’t mean a total lack of turning. I used to have ok pop, and I’d tighten my trucks to get a little more. The overly wobbly trucks shit kills me, looks dumb, the tricks look dumb, the resulting safety hands, also wack. Lots of people would benefit from some slightly tighter trucks. Or not.
Gottwig was on Thunders, and then in his last part, which was very sick, he had a lot of clips with Indys. Made em look good too. Then it seemed like he went back to Thunders? I mean unless you are getting paid a fair amount, riding what you want would be the move.

I’m always very interested in what good skateboarders are using equipment wise. Too interested.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on March 27, 2022, 07:21:07 PM
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really loving the supercush 94s, feels like 90-92a broken in
anyone have experience with the purp 97a?
feel like i should ride harder bushings until they get too soft
im a heavy fuck no matter how skinny i look
[close]

Memory might be bad but haven’t you posted about a ton of bushing combos that are supposed to be the best for Ventures? How long are you spending on these setups cuz it seems like you’ve tried about every bushing on the market now.
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ive tried some softer bushings, recommended the ones i liked
switched to harder duros to find out its my preference
dont think ive been the guy to say theres a definitive combo
but if youre itching to prove me wrong, feel free to double check

how to alter the turn is a FAQ in this thread
at $5-10 a set, its easy to build insight + help pals who ask
if im trying something new, bushings stay in for 1-2 months
immediate change if they suck

only tried 6 different sets so far and 4 of them were less >90a
definitely not every set on the market lol
which is why i was asking about harder bushings
maybe youre confusing me with someone else
[close]

Checked your post history and it was you. 6 sets is a lot to try, but I missed the posts where you noted that it just wasn’t for you and switching to harder bushings is doing you well. No hate on trying things out, just seemed like a ton of work.

I ride slightly tighter Indy’s than friends- like 1-1.5 full threads showing with the stock bushings. I could put blues in but am trying to skate my trucks as stock as possible aside from wax in the pivots. Tom Knox and Matt Gottwig have skated Indy’s with 2-3 threads showing in the rear so although it’s unsightly, can’t knock what works. Bobby used to ride Bones hards in his Indy’s and cranks his Ventures a bit too.

Are there any bigger skaters that ride Wobbly?
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In my experience, tight trucks can still turn pretty well, depends on a lot of factors, but yeah, cranking the bushings down some doesn’t mean a total lack of turning. I used to have ok pop, and I’d tighten my trucks to get a little more. The overly wobbly trucks shit kills me, looks dumb, the tricks look dumb, the resulting safety hands, also wack. Lots of people would benefit from some slightly tighter trucks. Or not.
Gottwig was on Thunders, and then in his last part, which was very sick, he had a lot of clips with Indys. Made em look good too. Then it seemed like he went back to Thunders? I mean unless you are getting paid a fair amount, riding what you want would be the move.

I’m always very interested in what good skateboarders are using equipment wise. Too interested.
I actually asked Gottwig about that and he said he uses thunder for street skating and independent for mostly transition and some street spots. I think it's cool to see pros riding different things. Makes me feel normal lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 27, 2022, 07:31:59 PM
Dude that’s so sick he responded.
 He was an incredibly nice person, the very few times I interacted with him.
Seemed like he sized down, the thunders looked like 8.25, from the footage, but as gear obsessed as I am, I cannot claim to be that good at judging sizes from pics/footage. I’m always surprised at how difficult it is for me to tell. I was watching some BDK stuff and I have no idea how big that guy’s shit is. Another thing I used to see with people riding Indy’s in addition to their ‘regular’ setup was when they’d size up/ride a shaped board. Makes sense.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ol Nick on March 27, 2022, 08:33:25 PM
So I’m late but just adding my vote for flat top washers and venture bushings. I’m just over 200lb and have been finding the stock Yellow barrels and the purple (97 i think) supercush tops keeps it snappy on my 6.1s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 27, 2022, 11:31:54 PM
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really loving the supercush 94s, feels like 90-92a broken in
anyone have experience with the purp 97a?
feel like i should ride harder bushings until they get too soft
im a heavy fuck no matter how skinny i look
[close]

Memory might be bad but haven’t you posted about a ton of bushing combos that are supposed to be the best for Ventures? How long are you spending on these setups cuz it seems like you’ve tried about every bushing on the market now.
[close]
ive tried some softer bushings, recommended the ones i liked
switched to harder duros to find out its my preference
dont think ive been the guy to say theres a definitive combo
but if youre itching to prove me wrong, feel free to double check

how to alter the turn is a FAQ in this thread
at $5-10 a set, its easy to build insight + help pals who ask
if im trying something new, bushings stay in for 1-2 months
immediate change if they suck

only tried 6 different sets so far and 4 of them were less >90a
definitely not every set on the market lol
which is why i was asking about harder bushings
maybe youre confusing me with someone else
[close]

Checked your post history and it was you. 6 sets is a lot to try, but I missed the posts where you noted that it just wasn’t for you and switching to harder bushings is doing you well. No hate on trying things out, just seemed like a ton of work.

I ride slightly tighter Indy’s than friends- like 1-1.5 full threads showing with the stock bushings. I could put blues in but am trying to skate my trucks as stock as possible aside from wax in the pivots. Tom Knox and Matt Gottwig have skated Indy’s with 2-3 threads showing in the rear so although it’s unsightly, can’t knock what works. Bobby used to ride Bones hards in his Indy’s and cranks his Ventures a bit too.

Are there any bigger skaters that ride Wobbly?
only had awful reviews for the indy reds and doh doh blues
figured i would bring em up if anyone asks
but those are generally unpopular choices
ive had all the madness in the past
bushings are the cheapest by a mile and fun to tinker with
especially for trucks you plan to run into the ground
very light work if you ask me

i heard knox rides the yellow super hard indy bushings
holy fuck if he has threads showing
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cosmicgypsies on March 28, 2022, 01:49:04 AM
so just to get it out of the way all color bushings on ventures that come stock are the same durometer. purple, yellow, red etc - all the same
now you have a few options as far as getting a deeper turn goes:
- flat top washer
- supercush 90a's will be the same as stock so you probably won't notice a difference, but i swear by supercush 90a's if i have to replace. people do seem to enjoy the 88's as well, and bones for as long as they last before blowing out
- you can throw some wax in the pivot cup to help things out too
- panic mode: sell 'em and get indy's again lol (obv you are trying to make the ventures work though, and kudos to you for that)

of those choices, i would try wax in pivot cup and a flat top washer first. ventures aren't really going to 'indy out' at any point in my experience, but that will definitely help things out a little

wait what? was there ever confirmation on venture stock purple durometer bc i recall a few people saying 92a, some saying 94a etc but having skated both the stock purple bushings and then the supercush 90a's i refuse to believe they're the same duro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJtHdkyo0hc
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on March 28, 2022, 03:56:21 AM
Dude that’s so sick he responded.
 He was an incredibly nice person, the very few times I interacted with him.
Seemed like he sized down, the thunders looked like 8.25, from the footage, but as gear obsessed as I am, I cannot claim to be that good at judging sizes from pics/footage. I’m always surprised at how difficult it is for me to tell. I was watching some BDK stuff and I have no idea how big that guy’s shit is. Another thing I used to see with people riding Indy’s in addition to their ‘regular’ setup was when they’d size up/ride a shaped board. Makes sense.
Yeah I was honestly surprised when he replied. It is hard to tell just from footage what size someone rides. I think that's why we all obsess over trucks because we can actually tell what people are riding and it makes us wonder if it will work for us since it works for them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on March 28, 2022, 04:37:03 AM
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so just to get it out of the way all color bushings on ventures that come stock are the same durometer. purple, yellow, red etc - all the same
now you have a few options as far as getting a deeper turn goes:
- flat top washer
- supercush 90a's will be the same as stock so you probably won't notice a difference, but i swear by supercush 90a's if i have to replace. people do seem to enjoy the 88's as well, and bones for as long as they last before blowing out
- you can throw some wax in the pivot cup to help things out too
- panic mode: sell 'em and get indy's again lol (obv you are trying to make the ventures work though, and kudos to you for that)

of those choices, i would try wax in pivot cup and a flat top washer first. ventures aren't really going to 'indy out' at any point in my experience, but that will definitely help things out a little
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wait what? was there ever confirmation on venture stock purple durometer bc i recall a few people saying 92a, some saying 94a etc but having skated both the stock purple bushings and then the supercush 90a's i refuse to believe they're the same duro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJtHdkyo0hc

I dm'd venture yesterday and asked about their bushings. They said all stock bushings no matter what the color are 90du. I sort of find that hard to believe because my purples feel like 96 or so...maybe because of the cold weather but thats what they said.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on March 28, 2022, 05:20:51 AM
i switched from ace to venture after 4 years of skating 44 classics. i got the standard 5.8s. yesterday was my first day on them shits, they grind great but my kickflips suck on them, i can 360 flip easily but kickflips take a lot of effort and i can't do tiny small quick controlled kickflips like i used to. the board i have is short though, i'm changing the deck on friday to a 101 gino reissue that has the same wheelbase but the deck is 0.4" longer, maybe this will sort that out. the main issue is that i can't get them to be as surfy as the aces, is there anything i can do with those trucks to make them turn better? i have the flat washer on the top bushing, they're as loose as they can get, the bushings are already broken in because i got the trucks from my friend. what are the best aftermarket bushings for these? ace bushings are too tall and the ace low bushings are unavailable in my country as of now.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cosmicgypsies on March 28, 2022, 07:05:08 AM
i switched from ace to venture after 4 years of skating 44 classics. i got the standard 5.8s. yesterday was my first day on them shits, they grind great but my kickflips suck on them, i can 360 flip easily but kickflips take a lot of effort and i can't do tiny small quick controlled kickflips like i used to. the board i have is short though, i'm changing the deck on friday to a 101 gino reissue that has the same wheelbase but the deck is 0.4" longer, maybe this will sort that out. the main issue is that i can't get them to be as surfy as the aces, is there anything i can do with those trucks to make them turn better? i have the flat washer on the top bushing, they're as loose as they can get, the bushings are already broken in because i got the trucks from my friend. what are the best aftermarket bushings for these? ace bushings are too tall and the ace low bushings are unavailable in my country as of now.

the most common suggested aftermarket bushings are the deluxe supercush ones which range in various duros from 88a up to 99a. i can only give my anecdotal experiences here, but i skated the 90a ones since around last june/july and i found them to be a definite improvement over the stock purple bushings which strikes me as very odd given the stock ones are also supposedly 90a yet the difference between the two was immediately apparent upon skating the supercush bushings.

i threw in some bones hardcore softs the other day and had a few sessions on them, definitely a lot more carvier/turning ability (to be expected given it's 81a vs 90a prior), less wheelbite compared to the 90a supercush (i assume the bones adjust the geometry slightly) and overall generally feels a lot better - still get that venture stability but can carve around pretty well and arguably my favourite truck/bushing combo to date. longevity is another question but i'll cross that bridge when i get to it.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 28, 2022, 07:06:56 AM
i switched from ace to venture after 4 years of skating 44 classics. i got the standard 5.8s. yesterday was my first day on them shits, they grind great but my kickflips suck on them, i can 360 flip easily but kickflips take a lot of effort and i can't do tiny small quick controlled kickflips like i used to. the board i have is short though, i'm changing the deck on friday to a 101 gino reissue that has the same wheelbase but the deck is 0.4" longer, maybe this will sort that out. the main issue is that i can't get them to be as surfy as the aces, is there anything i can do with those trucks to make them turn better? i have the flat washer on the top bushing, they're as loose as they can get, the bushings are already broken in because i got the trucks from my friend. what are the best aftermarket bushings for these? ace bushings are too tall and the ace low bushings are unavailable in my country as of now.

I know it’s a part of truck vernacular, but ‘surfy’ just irks me for some. Personal problem.
Venture will never be Ace, I prefer, emphatically, Ventures. Bones bushings give a deep turn, and allow for lots of tiny, quick turns.
As far as popping tricks, I’d recommend putting your popping foot further towards the tip of the nose/tail. Helps me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 28, 2022, 07:55:07 AM
the most common suggested aftermarket bushings are the deluxe supercush ones which range in various duros from 88a up to 99a. i can only give my anecdotal experiences here, but i skated the 90a ones since around last june/july and i found them to be a definite improvement over the stock purple bushings which strikes me as very odd given the stock ones are also supposedly 90a yet the difference between the two was immediately apparent upon skating the supercush bushings.

i threw in some bones hardcore softs the other day and had a few sessions on them, definitely a lot more carvier/turning ability (to be expected given it's 81a vs 90a prior), less wheelbite compared to the 90a supercush (i assume the bones adjust the geometry slightly) and overall generally feels a lot better - still get that venture stability but can carve around pretty well and arguably my favourite truck/bushing combo to date. longevity is another question but i'll cross that bridge when i get to it.

In my experience, the 90a supercush feel pretty identical to the stock bushings. they definitely last longer than stock when running the flat top washer so my guess is that they are more durable due to better rebound?? I definitely will keep riding the supercush as I think that is the best aftermarket choice for Ventures, but I also would love to have some extra purple or green stock bushings lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: No comply on March 28, 2022, 09:31:24 AM
For people asking about flat washers other than Bones: it’s very difficult finding one that has a small enough outside diameter. My local hardware store has a lot of different washers but none of them didn’t rub against the truck. The link provided to Muirskate flat washer would be too big as well. You could buy a smaller inside diameter and drill it out if you have access to a drill press.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 28, 2022, 09:46:31 AM
I found some at my Local Ace, but they were in the stainless section and pretty pricey per washer.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: No comply on March 28, 2022, 09:51:28 AM
I found some at my Local Ace, but they were in the stainless section and pretty pricey per washer.
Good to know. How much per washer?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 28, 2022, 11:14:01 AM
i switched from ace to venture after 4 years of skating 44 classics. i got the standard 5.8s. yesterday was my first day on them shits, they grind great but my kickflips suck on them, i can 360 flip easily but kickflips take a lot of effort and i can't do tiny small quick controlled kickflips like i used to. the board i have is short though, i'm changing the deck on friday to a 101 gino reissue that has the same wheelbase but the deck is 0.4" longer, maybe this will sort that out. the main issue is that i can't get them to be as surfy as the aces, is there anything i can do with those trucks to make them turn better? i have the flat washer on the top bushing, they're as loose as they can get, the bushings are already broken in because i got the trucks from my friend. what are the best aftermarket bushings for these? ace bushings are too tall and the ace low bushings are unavailable in my country as of now.

I’m not sure which is more opposite to an Ace…thunder or venture….but neither are similar other than they are all Indy alternatives.  It’s called geometry and an Ace will never turn like a Venture. 

The aftermarket bushings will help the truck turn more smoothly, maybe a bit more lean….

My advice is enjoy what the truck does well….sitting in the pocket on a manual and still going straight. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 28, 2022, 04:55:28 PM
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Help please! Bought some standard venture high 5.8s recently after only skating indy for 20 years....i want to love the ventures, but i just cant seem to get them to turn close to my indys. They have the stock purple clearish bushings in them so not sure how hard those are...i have the kingpin nut as loose as you can get it without falling off. Probably had about 10 sessions on the ventures and still kot turning good. Should i wait it out? What bushings do you recommend to get them a deeper turn? I saw some people saying the deluxe supercush bushings are good in ventures but wasnt sure if i should go with the 91 or 88 duro on those....does anyone run bones soft bushings in there? Ive never used aftermarket bushings in trucks and normally just ran the standard orange bushings in indys and they turned really good for me. Let me know what yall think. Would greatly appreciate any info !
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so just to get it out of the way all color bushings on ventures that come stock are the same durometer. purple, yellow, red etc - all the same
now you have a few options as far as getting a deeper turn goes:
- flat top washer
- supercush 90a's will be the same as stock so you probably won't notice a difference, but i swear by supercush 90a's if i have to replace. people do seem to enjoy the 88's as well, and bones for as long as they last before blowing out
- you can throw some wax in the pivot cup to help things out too
- panic mode: sell 'em and get indy's again lol (obv you are trying to make the ventures work though, and kudos to you for that)

of those choices, i would try wax in pivot cup and a flat top washer first. ventures aren't really going to 'indy out' at any point in my experience, but that will definitely help things out a little
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Flat top washer really does make a world of difference. I don’t know why venture doesn’t just include them stock.

This for sure.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on March 28, 2022, 05:00:10 PM
Does venture have a “team” edition like thunder does? If so why’s the difference in the regular ones vs the “team” editions?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on March 28, 2022, 05:32:09 PM
Does venture have a “team” edition like thunder does? If so why’s the difference in the regular ones vs the “team” editions?

they do actually, but i've always wondered the same having never seen them in the wild (or remembering to take a look when i'm in a shop)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 28, 2022, 10:53:35 PM
I disagree….team in thunder talk means cast base, fancy hanger ie. hollow, venture has nothing of the sort…..it’s forged base…

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 29, 2022, 01:01:15 AM
according to thunder website
"team editions" are base thunders, solid everything @52mm
"team hollows" have a hollow kingpin and axle
but are the same 52mm height as the team editions
(https://i.ibb.co/QKSpJHV/75230-C8-E-DB85-4-F6-D-AF2-F-9-B0-B2109870-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HHwBKPy)
(https://i.ibb.co/BPxxXY6/1-EC7-ACDC-467-B-4740-B27-E-AF1436-DE80-AA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZJPPnbg)

venture dossnt do anything like this
no cast baseplates come with hollow kingpins stock
all forged plates shave 1.5mm off the original height**
*this is for the hi models, not positive about the lows*
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 29, 2022, 01:05:57 AM
One of the venture drops later this year will have a light hanger (hollow or ti not sure yet) on cast plates
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 29, 2022, 07:26:59 AM
One of the venture drops later this year will have a light hanger (hollow or ti not sure yet) on cast plates
lets fucking gooooo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on March 29, 2022, 07:38:27 AM
Why don’t people like forged baseplates? I tried my brothers set up and felt pretty much the same.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 29, 2022, 07:48:22 AM
Why don’t people like forged baseplates? I tried my brothers set up and felt pretty much the same.

I’m hyped for the team hollow 5.6s.
Uh, forged plates…so I think my dislike for comes from me being overly sensitive to vibration and sound. The pop feels off. Dunno why. I’m skating some forged plate trucks now, and I have the feeling that if I tried the cast of the same truck I’d like it better, as that’s always been the case for me. Different sound when grinding, different sound when riding. Can’t call it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rob on March 29, 2022, 05:49:03 PM
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Why don’t people like forged baseplates? I tried my brothers set up and felt pretty much the same.
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I’m hyped for the team hollow 5.6s.
Uh, forged plates…so I think my dislike for comes from me being overly sensitive to vibration and sound. The pop feels off. Dunno why. I’m skating some forged plate trucks now, and I have the feeling that if I tried the cast of the same truck I’d like it better, as that’s always been the case for me. Different sound when grinding, different sound when riding. Can’t call it.

I agree, I have on and off days when riding forged thunders but cast is always reliable

But forged Indy’s I won’t even touch with a 6 foot pole
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 29, 2022, 09:01:03 PM
They look dumb…..that’s why.  Honestly on a thunder, you can afford a bit more height and weight.  I’m ok with venture because I’m mad about the height still.  I think they should do a 5.6 low hollow on cast plates…. But I don’t expect them to do so….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 29, 2022, 09:17:30 PM
They look dumb…..that’s why.  Honestly on a thunder, you can afford a bit more height and weight.  I’m ok with venture because I’m mad about the height still.  I think they should do a 5.6 low hollow on cast plates…. But I don’t expect them to do so….

This
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on March 29, 2022, 09:32:30 PM
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Why don’t people like forged baseplates? I tried my brothers set up and felt pretty much the same.
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I’m hyped for the team hollow 5.6s.
Uh, forged plates…so I think my dislike for comes from me being overly sensitive to vibration and sound. The pop feels off. Dunno why. I’m skating some forged plate trucks now, and I have the feeling that if I tried the cast of the same truck I’d like it better, as that’s always been the case for me. Different sound when grinding, different sound when riding. Can’t call it.

Damn wtf. You guys are meticulous af.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 29, 2022, 09:37:53 PM
Why don’t people like forged baseplates? I tried my brothers set up and felt pretty much the same.

They drop weight but extend the WB on a truck that already has the longest WB.

Ben Degros likes em tho
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 29, 2022, 09:50:14 PM
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Why don’t people like forged baseplates? I tried my brothers set up and felt pretty much the same.
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I’m hyped for the team hollow 5.6s.
Uh, forged plates…so I think my dislike for comes from me being overly sensitive to vibration and sound. The pop feels off. Dunno why. I’m skating some forged plate trucks now, and I have the feeling that if I tried the cast of the same truck I’d like it better, as that’s always been the case for me. Different sound when grinding, different sound when riding. Can’t call it.
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Damn wtf. You guys are meticulous af.

I want to be very clear: I don’t think there is a huge difference. I think that normal, non wack people enjoy either and don’t think about it. But some days I hate my socks. On another day, that same pair of hated socks, is the go too. What I’m trying to say, is that I am painfully aware of my kookiness with some of this stuff. Forged plate better than no skateboard. All of this stuff can be overcome. I’ve attempted to indulge too many skate setup whims, and I’ve not found many answers.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rob on March 29, 2022, 11:27:54 PM
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Why don’t people like forged baseplates? I tried my brothers set up and felt pretty much the same.
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I’m hyped for the team hollow 5.6s.
Uh, forged plates…so I think my dislike for comes from me being overly sensitive to vibration and sound. The pop feels off. Dunno why. I’m skating some forged plate trucks now, and I have the feeling that if I tried the cast of the same truck I’d like it better, as that’s always been the case for me. Different sound when grinding, different sound when riding. Can’t call it.
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Damn wtf. You guys are meticulous af.
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I want to be very clear: I don’t think there is a huge difference. I think that normal, non wack people enjoy either and don’t think about it. But some days I hate my socks. On another day, that same pair of hated socks, is the go too. What I’m trying to say, is that I am painfully aware of my kookiness with some of this stuff. Forged plate better than no skateboard. All of this stuff can be overcome. I’ve attempted to indulge too many skate setup whims, and I’ve not found many answers.

This isn’t the place for this discussion and answer but I noticed having a setup similar to your learning days/prime years helps

The shape of the deck(if you skated a certain brand they were either pointy or squared/circular(bbs/deluxe, kayo or girl,dwindle)

The height and board to truck size ratio(skating exactly 8 inch trucks on an 8 inch deck or 7.75 trucks on an 8 inch deck) and if they were lows or highs and especially key point here #2 after deck shape is how tight you ride them(I have to face the truth, I ride medium tight and can’t hang with you wobbly ace riding cool curb crushers)

And wheels I have no idea on the correlation but as much as I love conical and square wheels classic shape do me justice

Anyways getting back on topic, I wonder what the remastered ventures will look like or improve on since they’re such a classic truck in the days of pj Ladd, Corey duffel, Stefan janoski, and Stevie Williams being their stars

And I’m sure they’re gonna release a 5.6 low cause why not
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 30, 2022, 07:07:40 AM
I tried the “what you rode when you learned” thing but the problem is that we made do with what trends we’re forced on us not what was ideal. It’s much more fun to skate a board over 8in, a wb bigger than 13.75, wheels over 50mm, and high trucks and actually technically better in a lot of ways. Your muscles don’t remember something 20 years ago, your body learns coordination really quickly.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 30, 2022, 08:56:21 AM
Short story: 14.0 wheelbase is not for everyone (and not for me)

Long story: I just setup a FA 8.18 board with a 14.0 in. wb w/ venture 5.6 hollow hi (increasing the wb with the hollows to offset the short wb). On the first session i hated it. It felt too light/quick, poppy, and whiffy. I also felt like the board would shoot out from under me after landing any trick. Some people might actually like this setup but for me, coming from a cast venture hi on a 14.25 wb, this was so bad. At least now I know i can stay with my previous setup which is stable, hefty, and responsive pop.

Had my own bout of Venture baseplate madness today with 14" wheelbase too. Thought 8.25 x 32 x 14 would pair nicely with Venture 5.6 Titanium with forged baseplates but they were not working at all. Ended up swapping back to cast baseplates after 5 minutes of setting it up. Granted I had been riding the cast baseplates on the previous setup, so familiarity was a factor. But the steep, stiff and thickness of the Control woodshop deck just weren't working with an extended WB.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on March 30, 2022, 11:48:39 AM
Short story: 14.0 wheelbase is not for everyone (and not for me)

Long story: I just setup a FA 8.18 board with a 14.0 in. wb w/ venture 5.6 hollow hi (increasing the wb with the hollows to offset the short wb). On the first session i hated it. It felt too light/quick, poppy, and whiffy. I also felt like the board would shoot out from under me after landing any trick. Some people might actually like this setup but for me, coming from a cast venture hi on a 14.25 wb, this was so bad. At least now I know i can stay with my previous setup which is stable, hefty, and responsive pop.

If you have 5.6 cast try those, or throw the hollow hanger on the cast venture baseplate which is what I did since I have both. Seems ridiculous since it’ll shorten the WB even more on the 14 WB 8.18 fa/hockey shape, but for me it somehow works. Adds a bit of weight and the extra height of cast seems to give more heft to the pop feel even with very short WB. I tried 5.6 hollows didn’t really like it but somehow with the cast it feels way better.

I’m also trash so that could be complete nonsense but that was my experience.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on March 30, 2022, 12:16:04 PM
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They look dumb…..that’s why.  Honestly on a thunder, you can afford a bit more height and weight.  I’m ok with venture because I’m mad about the height still.  I think they should do a 5.6 low hollow on cast plates…. But I don’t expect them to do so….
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This

Interesting, I'm a particular ass MF, and I hate on plenty of shit, but i've never felt one way or another about how the thickness of a baseplate affects the esthetics of a skateboard... hmmmm *MADNESS INTENSIFIES*
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 30, 2022, 12:41:35 PM
Indy with forged is the worst….it’s like a Beibel upper body with Mcrank’s legs…..

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gyros4heroes on March 30, 2022, 02:29:26 PM
Have been thinking about swapping from thunder 148 hollow lights to Venture 5.6 v lights on my Quasi 8.25”x32.25”x14.4”.
Im on the 3-4th consecutive board on the same shape and was wondering if anyone has any experience with a similar setup as im going to keep whatever trucks i buy until they break
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PatrickSkateman on March 30, 2022, 03:19:19 PM
Have been thinking about swapping from thunder 148 hollow lights to Venture 5.6 v lights on my Quasi 8.25”x32.25”x14.4”.
Im on the 3-4th consecutive board on the same shape and was wondering if anyone has any experience with a similar setup as im going to keep whatever trucks i buy until they break

I’m considering trying 5.2 hi on that shape or 5.8 on the Quasi 8.5 which has the same dimensions everywhere else.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on March 31, 2022, 08:40:20 AM
Indy with forged is the worst….it’s like a Beibel upper body with Mcrank’s legs…..

I don't agree at all. Indy forged hollows are probably my fav trucks I've tried.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 31, 2022, 10:26:44 AM
I have not tried them….merely looked at them….same goes for beibel/mcrank…..

I see the value of lightening and lowering an Indy….it doesn’t make it right.  I get when guys just strictly go raw on everything. 

Despite my feelings of what I deem ‘right’, the venture 5.6 v-lightsis a good all around truck and meets current standards.  I can put my board in front of anyone and they can skate them.  I just ordered a set of hollows. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on March 31, 2022, 10:55:16 AM
Indy with forged is the worst….it’s like a Beibel upper body with Mcrank’s legs…..

While I can't relate to this particular subset of madness. I appreciate and respect you for being honest about it. HATE ON brother. I'm currently on forged indy titaniums btw lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 31, 2022, 01:43:19 PM
When I go into a shop and ask if they have Ti Ventures…..when they say no…..I don’t ask why…..I come here….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 31, 2022, 02:32:13 PM
I’ve tried just about every Indy and forged ti are lowest on my list, then Mids, then forged hollows, and at the top is standard hollows. And all I skate is ledges these days.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gyros4heroes on April 02, 2022, 06:10:12 AM
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Have been thinking about swapping from thunder 148 hollow lights to Venture 5.6 v lights on my Quasi 8.25”x32.25”x14.4”.
Im on the 3-4th consecutive board on the same shape and was wondering if anyone has any experience with a similar setup as im going to keep whatever trucks i buy until they break
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I’m considering trying 5.2 hi on that shape or 5.8 on the Quasi 8.5 which has the same dimensions everywhere else.

Set them up and had a first skate on that setup yesterday. Other than the wheels looking abnormally spaced apart it feels great. All my tricks feel smoother and mannys/nose mannys are great too despite the large wheelbase
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nekro on April 05, 2022, 10:05:28 AM
I used Venture back in the mid-90s and have recently started skating again but bought some Indys because....well everyone rates them and rides them.  But, I'm thinking I'm not an Indy guy since they just don't feel very stable.
Now I've bought some Venture V-Hollow 5.8 and need to replace the bushings as I like my trucks super tight.  Will Bones bushings work well in these and should I just use the top flat washer without any bottom washer?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on April 05, 2022, 10:36:44 AM
I used Venture back in the mid-90s and have recently started skating again but bought some Indys because....well everyone rates them and rides them.  But, I'm thinking I'm not an Indy guy since they just don't feel very stable.
Now I've bought some Venture V-Hollow 5.8 and need to replace the bushings as I like my trucks super tight.  Will Bones bushings work well in these and should I just use the top flat washer without any bottom washer?
Just run them stock for now and tighten it to your liking. The flat washer will free up the turn a bit, if you wish to go that route. Removing the bottom washer will slightly change the geometry and make it feel less stable, i imagine.

If the stock bushings (which are 90a) are too soft for you, then you can try aftermarket indy bushings or deluxe supercush with a higher duro. The Bones bottom bushing are a conical style, whereas the options i mentioned earlier offer the barrel bottom bushing which are the same height as Venture stock. conical will be less stable compared to barrel
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on April 05, 2022, 10:49:52 AM
I used Venture back in the mid-90s and have recently started skating again but bought some Indys because....well everyone rates them and rides them.  But, I'm thinking I'm not an Indy guy since they just don't feel very stable.
Now I've bought some Venture V-Hollow 5.8 and need to replace the bushings as I like my trucks super tight.  Will Bones bushings work well in these and should I just use the top flat washer without any bottom washer?

Bones bushings are pretty tall (at least before they’re broken in), so they make Ventures feel tight at first. If you like that, I’d probably recommend the hard ones, which should break in to a nice medium.

Supercush (Deluxe Bait & Tackle) 94s/97s would be the proper aftermarket option.

Indy 94s/96s would also be a good option (specifically the barrel shape 94s; the conical 94s feel a bit more medium on Ventures).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 05, 2022, 11:53:45 AM
I’d follow up on the barrel bushings as everyone has mentioned.  The bones conical with the flat washer will lead to the truck being more turny. 

You might just give it a bit of time too.  I suspect you’re a lot different and the 5.8 is so far from what a Venture was in the 90’s.  They are still good trucks IMO. I normally have skated trucks ‘medium’ aka tight and have 5.6’s, now I have them down to a medium loose with bones and I like it a lot. 

Welcome back. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on April 05, 2022, 05:34:01 PM
How do you all feel about 5.2hi? I’m going from 5.2lo and trying the hi
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 05, 2022, 08:19:30 PM
Goes against everything I believe in but my friend is skating them and loves them.  Puts them on an 8.125….with conicals no washer……seems like a decent idea.  You get a might more turn..with forged plates it’s still a lower truck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 06, 2022, 06:36:48 AM
So me and another awake lad was talking to the potential convert about my trucks. I passed my board over to him. POW KICKFLIP! I was like YEAH! Convert goes man this board has pop! I’m like venture trucks my man. The fellow venture rider goes make the switch kid. Yo kalis Kalis dog. Need we say more?

Potential convert goes
I been thinking about trying krux for my next truck. I started my next sentence gingerly but I ended with

You don’t wanna do that man, krux is some kook shit.

The awake homie started laughing. I was like gimme my board man. Lol

This kid is the most talented beginner I’ve ever seen I had to educate him on the sting of making poor choices in gear lol.

That is all for now. Lol krux
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on April 06, 2022, 07:20:18 AM
I’d follow up on the barrel bushings as everyone has mentioned.  The bones conical with the flat washer will lead to the truck being more turny. 

You might just give it a bit of time too.  I suspect you’re a lot different and the 5.8 is so far from what a Venture was in the 90’s.  They are still good trucks IMO. I normally have skated trucks ‘medium’ aka tight and have 5.6’s, now I have them down to a medium loose with bones and I like it a lot. 

Welcome back.

What do you define as medium loose with bones in ventures in terms of threads showing? I’m about 200 lbs and have bones hards with flat washers in my 5.6 (cast baseplate), front one I ride sub flush basically hand turned and back truck I have exactly flush w/o any threads showing. I’m on 53mm spit classic f4 wheels and 14 WB 8.18 fa/hockey shape for reference.

I tested tightening them a bit to front truck flush back truck 1 thread showing and pop was better but turn was more delayed and it wasn’t as fun to ride so I went back. Almost seems like you can’t get them actually “loose” w/o removing the top washer as there’s not enough room, but when I took top washer out stability felt off it was very tippy and I couldn’t get used to it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 06, 2022, 08:49:17 AM
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I’d follow up on the barrel bushings as everyone has mentioned.  The bones conical with the flat washer will lead to the truck being more turny. 

You might just give it a bit of time too.  I suspect you’re a lot different and the 5.8 is so far from what a Venture was in the 90’s.  They are still good trucks IMO. I normally have skated trucks ‘medium’ aka tight and have 5.6’s, now I have them down to a medium loose with bones and I like it a lot. 

Welcome back.
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What do you define as medium loose with bones in ventures in terms of threads showing? I’m about 200 lbs and have bones hards with flat washers in my 5.6 (cast baseplate), front one I ride sub flush basically hand turned and back truck I have exactly flush w/o any threads showing. I’m on 53mm spit classic f4 wheels and 14 WB 8.18 fa/hockey shape for reference.

I tested tightening them a bit to front truck flush back truck 1 thread showing and pop was better but turn was more delayed and it wasn’t as fun to ride so I went back. Almost seems like you can’t get them actually “loose” w/o removing the top washer as there’s not enough room, but when I took top washer out stability felt off it was very tippy and I couldn’t get used to it.

Prince(ss) and the pee nis

For me, with ventures and bones bushings, using only the top washer, flush would still have a lot of turn. I weigh 170 ish. I don’t like that floppy jangly truck shit, to me, in my opinion, it’s gross. I did succumb to that bullshit years ago, and just ran the trucks with no tip or bottom washers and bones. Disgusting.
Bones hards take a little while to break in. Trucks in general do. Maybe you have already done this. If not, go fuck yourself. I mean go break them in and be stoked.
Alternatively maybe ventures aren’t for you? Ace have that squirrelly turn. Could be the move.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nekro on April 06, 2022, 09:36:53 AM
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I’d follow up on the barrel bushings as everyone has mentioned.  The bones conical with the flat washer will lead to the truck being more turny. 

You might just give it a bit of time too.  I suspect you’re a lot different and the 5.8 is so far from what a Venture was in the 90’s.  They are still good trucks IMO. I normally have skated trucks ‘medium’ aka tight and have 5.6’s, now I have them down to a medium loose with bones and I like it a lot. 

Welcome back.
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What do you define as medium loose with bones in ventures in terms of threads showing? I’m about 200 lbs and have bones hards with flat washers in my 5.6 (cast baseplate), front one I ride sub flush basically hand turned and back truck I have exactly flush w/o any threads showing. I’m on 53mm spit classic f4 wheels and 14 WB 8.18 fa/hockey shape for reference.

I tested tightening them a bit to front truck flush back truck 1 thread showing and pop was better but turn was more delayed and it wasn’t as fun to ride so I went back. Almost seems like you can’t get them actually “loose” w/o removing the top washer as there’s not enough room, but when I took top washer out stability felt off it was very tippy and I couldn’t get used to it.
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Prince(ss) and the pee nis

For me, with ventures and bones bushings, using only the top washer, flush would still have a lot of turn. I weigh 170 ish. I don’t like that floppy jangly truck shit, to me, in my opinion, it’s gross. I did succumb to that bullshit years ago, and just ran the trucks with no tip or bottom washers and bones. Disgusting.
Bones hards take a little while to break in. Trucks in general do. Maybe you have already done this. If not, go fuck yourself. I mean go break them in and be stoked.
Alternatively maybe ventures aren’t for you? Ace have that squirrelly turn. Could be the move.

I got some hard Bones bushings and tried them in my Ventures but they don't sit right.  The bottom bushing isn't tall enough without the washer and the hanger sits at a slight angle.  I got some super hard Indy barrel bushings and they fit just fine.  Still a bit loose though, I guess they'll tighten up after a few sessions?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 06, 2022, 11:07:38 AM
Conical bushings for more turn, barrel for more stability. I haven’t had those indy bushings, so I don’t know if they firm up, but I’ve had quite a few bushing like that.
It’s been awhile since I’ve run bones bushings in ventures, that was my go to for quite some time. Maybe they don’t fit right. These days I tend to run everything stock, including the top washer, and then just wait for the trucks to break in. I can see why some wouldn’t want to do that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 06, 2022, 11:30:49 AM
I’m skating bones medium with flat washer, no threads above the nut….

I weigh 135lbs….skate slow and never Ollie off of something that I cannot Ollie up….

Party on…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on April 06, 2022, 12:13:11 PM
Conical bushings for more turn, barrel for more stability. I haven’t had those indy bushings, so I don’t know if they firm up, but I’ve had quite a few bushing like that.
It’s been awhile since I’ve run bones bushings in ventures, that was my go to for quite some time. Maybe they don’t fit right. These days I tend to run everything stock, including the top washer, and then just wait for the trucks to break in. I can see why some wouldn’t want to do that.

Will conical bushings help to  get  better pinch? 

My venture bushings are starting going and I have done Indy 92 blue barrel and the conical I have on Thunders right now. But I’m starting to enjoy the pop of ventures I feel my kuckflios look decent now.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 06, 2022, 02:44:19 PM
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I’d follow up on the barrel bushings as everyone has mentioned.  The bones conical with the flat washer will lead to the truck being more turny. 

You might just give it a bit of time too.  I suspect you’re a lot different and the 5.8 is so far from what a Venture was in the 90’s.  They are still good trucks IMO. I normally have skated trucks ‘medium’ aka tight and have 5.6’s, now I have them down to a medium loose with bones and I like it a lot. 

Welcome back.
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What do you define as medium loose with bones in ventures in terms of threads showing? I’m about 200 lbs and have bones hards with flat washers in my 5.6 (cast baseplate), front one I ride sub flush basically hand turned and back truck I have exactly flush w/o any threads showing. I’m on 53mm spit classic f4 wheels and 14 WB 8.18 fa/hockey shape for reference.

I tested tightening them a bit to front truck flush back truck 1 thread showing and pop was better but turn was more delayed and it wasn’t as fun to ride so I went back. Almost seems like you can’t get them actually “loose” w/o removing the top washer as there’s not enough room, but when I took top washer out stability felt off it was very tippy and I couldn’t get used to it.
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Prince(ss) and the pee nis

For me, with ventures and bones bushings, using only the top washer, flush would still have a lot of turn. I weigh 170 ish. I don’t like that floppy jangly truck shit, to me, in my opinion, it’s gross. I did succumb to that bullshit years ago, and just ran the trucks with no tip or bottom washers and bones. Disgusting.
Bones hards take a little while to break in. Trucks in general do. Maybe you have already done this. If not, go fuck yourself. I mean go break them in and be stoked.
Alternatively maybe ventures aren’t for you? Ace have that squirrelly turn. Could be the move.
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I got some hard Bones bushings and tried them in my Ventures but they don't sit right.  The bottom bushing isn't tall enough without the washer and the hanger sits at a slight angle.  I got some super hard Indy barrel bushings and they fit just fine.  Still a bit loose though, I guess they'll tighten up after a few sessions?

For bones I only use the top bushings stock bottom bushings. No washer either. It’s a time bomb though last like 4 weeks tops before cracking then you got like maybe 3 months before the hanger falls off randomly.

I’m able to get the perfect turn with just the flat washers stock bushings or soft white Indy’s  in the cold.

I’m 175 lbs ? I skate loose as my set up will allow.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 06, 2022, 03:55:57 PM
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Conical bushings for more turn, barrel for more stability. I haven’t had those indy bushings, so I don’t know if they firm up, but I’ve had quite a few bushing like that.
It’s been awhile since I’ve run bones bushings in ventures, that was my go to for quite some time. Maybe they don’t fit right. These days I tend to run everything stock, including the top washer, and then just wait for the trucks to break in. I can see why some wouldn’t want to do that.
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Will conical bushings help to  get  better pinch? 

My venture bushings are starting going and I have done Indy 92 blue barrel and the conical I have on Thunders right now. But I’m starting to enjoy the pop of ventures I feel my kuckflios look decent now.

I’ve got a lot of opinions, but that does not make me a good skater (re: pinch). I’ve heard folks way better than I say that the stock washer/bushings help with the pinch. For me, if trucks are too loose, it’s less of a pinch and more of a flop (no tension).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on April 07, 2022, 11:01:07 AM
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Conical bushings for more turn, barrel for more stability. I haven’t had those indy bushings, so I don’t know if they firm up, but I’ve had quite a few bushing like that.
It’s been awhile since I’ve run bones bushings in ventures, that was my go to for quite some time. Maybe they don’t fit right. These days I tend to run everything stock, including the top washer, and then just wait for the trucks to break in. I can see why some wouldn’t want to do that.
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Will conical bushings help to  get  better pinch

My venture bushings are starting going and I have done Indy 92 blue barrel and the conical I have on Thunders right now. But I’m starting to enjoy the pop of ventures I feel my kuckflios look decent now.
I don't think so. My opinion is that pinch has to do more with technique than gear.
Although, there are some instances where certain product on the market are known for specific qualities such as having good pinch. Thunders are known to have great pinch due to their low height and overall geometry that people generally say feel twitchy/super responsive. I've also heard numerous cases of Venture Los having amazing pinch and most of those claims are with stock bushings.

I'm riding Venture highs (stock/supercush bushings with flat washer) and I enjoy the pinch feeling more than Thunders actually. I find it easier to sit on pinched grinds, but I suppose Thunders would feel easier to get into a pinched position just due to their geo.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 07, 2022, 12:08:46 PM
You’re not really pinching unless all your weight is on top.  In theory it makes a difference but I can’t see it making that much of a difference.  Maybe on a slappy crook it makes the contact/entry point easier? 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bunk Moreland on April 07, 2022, 01:14:11 PM
Wtf is pinching?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 07, 2022, 04:35:59 PM
Nfg is going to drop a bushing. This is such good news. I’m definitely going to cop when available. I’ll cut them venture size if I have to. Pivot cups too. To have the most core set up is my mission
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 07, 2022, 07:19:07 PM
Wtf is pinching?

Where the truck is on an angle to have the wheel touching or almost touching the deck, more often with crooked grinds, but can be with other tricks too.

That is the pinch point, sort of like being locked in, as I have also heard it said before.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bunk Moreland on April 07, 2022, 07:40:09 PM
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Wtf is pinching?
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Where the truck is on an angle to have the wheel touching or almost touching the deck, more often with crooked grinds, but can be with other tricks too.

That is the pinch point, sort of like being locked in, as I have also heard it said before.
Stop it, that’s not a measurable thing.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cosmicgypsies on April 08, 2022, 01:23:39 AM
Wtf is pinching?

https://www.instagram.com/daspinch/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on April 08, 2022, 03:24:54 AM
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Conical bushings for more turn, barrel for more stability. I haven’t had those indy bushings, so I don’t know if they firm up, but I’ve had quite a few bushing like that.
It’s been awhile since I’ve run bones bushings in ventures, that was my go to for quite some time. Maybe they don’t fit right. These days I tend to run everything stock, including the top washer, and then just wait for the trucks to break in. I can see why some wouldn’t want to do that.
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Will conical bushings help to  get  better pinch? 

My venture bushings are starting going and I have done Indy 92 blue barrel and the conical I have on Thunders right now. But I’m starting to enjoy the pop of ventures I feel my kuckflios look decent now.
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I’ve got a lot of opinions, but that does not make me a good skater (re: pinch). I’ve heard folks way better than I say that the stock washer/bushings help with the pinch. For me, if trucks are too loose, it’s less of a pinch and more of a flop (no tension).

obviously it's mostly about the technique but i've been on rattling ace classics for 4 years (two different sets but i put the same old bushings in the second pair) before switching to ventures, i have the stock bushings on them with a flat top washer, i have them as loose as possible which is like medium tight on aces and while this is somewhat true, doing pinched crooked grinds on the aces felt great and having them loose as fuck helps with popping out mid-ledge, but sometimes they do come out a little floppy, like a noseslide with one wheel on top. doing a crooked grind on ventures is definitely a little harder, but they pretty much never look bad if you manage to do one. it's kinda like venture throw you off wack crooks and with ace everything goes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goingapelikenigo on April 08, 2022, 11:47:28 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/tg7bhYj.jpg)
i’m sorry have been out of the loop for a while but are 5.8 lows a thing??
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on April 08, 2022, 11:55:06 AM
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i’m sorry have been out of the loop for a while but are 5.8 lows a thing??

not that i'm aware of or have seen at least. test versions to keep people from going to ace or a simple typo, either way it has me curious
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 08, 2022, 12:02:17 PM
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i’m sorry have been out of the loop for a while but are 5.8 lows a thing??
i think those are the gilbert crockett 5.8s
no lows in sizes wider than 5.2
yet....?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: maggot cunt on April 08, 2022, 12:04:53 PM
pros are either obsessive or clueless about what they are skating
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 08, 2022, 12:27:26 PM
You’d have to be clueless to want to ride for Illegal Civ
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 08, 2022, 01:22:07 PM
You’d have to be clueless to want to ride for Illegal Civ

It’s definitely not my thing, I’m about 30 years past the target demo.
Aramis and Zach very very good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bbk on April 08, 2022, 06:31:45 PM
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i’m sorry have been out of the loop for a while but are 5.8 lows a thing??
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i think those are the gilbert crockett 5.8s
no lows in sizes wider than 5.2
yet....?
Those are lights with forged plate, probably where he got the "low" from.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 08, 2022, 07:28:15 PM
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You’d have to be clueless to want to ride for Illegal Civ
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It’s definitely not my thing, I’m about 30 years past the target demo.
Aramis and Zach very very good.

In 2022 everyone is very good tho
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 08, 2022, 08:42:20 PM
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You’d have to be clueless to want to ride for Illegal Civ
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It’s definitely not my thing, I’m about 30 years past the target demo.
Aramis and Zach very very good.
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In 2022 everyone is very good tho

Some are gooder than others tho.
I’m not pro illegal civ by any means.



Come to think of it, I don’t know what board brands are cool rn. &#128116;&#127996;
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hamm on April 11, 2022, 10:06:38 AM
Im one of you guys now. Just traded out some Ace 44 classics for venture 5.8´s all polished. Went with the 5.8 because I didn’t want to be tied to an 8.25 and welcome more room to grind.

Added a little truck madness slider below. Hope this link works: https://www.instarestoration.com/slider/view/f1918eaa-c98d-4a89-9f47-1b729a092fac
Axel point on the right hand side is matched in the slider too.

Was running 44´s with no bottom washer and now 5.8´s stock. For some reason I thought I’d be getting a lighter set up but seems like I’ve added 5g per truck. Not sure how these old knees will find it. Did notice that the manual point is already wayyyyy easier to hold on the ventures when stationary. Yet to skate them.

Deck is a quasi proto 8.25 also
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on April 11, 2022, 07:46:54 PM
I've been back on my Ventures for about a month now and I love them. I am running the cast 5.6 and they turn great, grind very satisfactorily, and feel good when I ollie.

I am happy with them. Quite a bit. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on April 12, 2022, 08:50:10 AM
I've been back on my Ventures for about a month now and I love them. I am running the cast 5.6 and they turn great, grind very satisfactorily, and feel good when I ollie.

I am happy with them. Quite a bit.
I'm about to get some cast 5.6 for my 8.25 quasi. I have 5.8 but the board tapers to 8 on the rear and it was way too hot rod for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on April 13, 2022, 12:33:00 PM
Just got some 5.6.v lights. They feel great on my quasi 8.25. Can't wait to have a real session on them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: slaab900turbo on April 13, 2022, 12:56:15 PM
Just picked up a set of the 5.6 OG Dots with the blue baseplate for $10/ea at my local Vans store. Looking forward to trying them out. Haven't had Ventures in a long time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: dr.prestige on April 13, 2022, 01:50:13 PM
Nfg is going to drop a bushing. This is such good news. I’m definitely going to cop when available. I’ll cut them venture size if I have to. Pivot cups too. To have the most core set up is my mission

Good news, they are Venture size. I have a test set and measured them with my calipers, the bottom bushings are about .01" thinner than bushings I previously had in my Ventures which is too small of a difference to notice in my opinion, especially considering that Deluxe's tolerances for their bushing sizing is within that range anyways. The top bushing is a bit smaller though, so you might have to crank them down a bit more to get a comparable turn to Venture bushings. I like how much more loose they make my Ventures though, they feel a lot more surfy and responsive.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: dr.prestige on April 13, 2022, 01:50:55 PM
Does anybody know if the baseplates used for Venture Los and His are the same baseplate?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 13, 2022, 02:02:20 PM
Does anybody know if the baseplates used for Venture Los and His are the same baseplate?

My understanding is the baseplates are the same, and can be interchanged.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on April 13, 2022, 02:20:18 PM
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Does anybody know if the baseplates used for Venture Los and His are the same baseplate?
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My understanding is the baseplates are the same, and can be interchanged.

Correct. Venture baseplates are interchangeable between hangars.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on April 13, 2022, 04:30:39 PM
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Nfg is going to drop a bushing. This is such good news. I’m definitely going to cop when available. I’ll cut them venture size if I have to. Pivot cups too. To have the most core set up is my mission
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Good news, they are Venture size. I have a test set and measured them with my calipers, the bottom bushings are about .01" thinner than bushings I previously had in my Ventures which is too small of a difference to notice in my opinion, especially considering that Deluxe's tolerances for their bushing sizing is within that range anyways. The top bushing is a bit smaller though, so you might have to crank them down a bit more to get a comparable turn to Venture bushings. I like how much more loose they make my Ventures though, they feel a lot more surfy and responsive.

hoolllly shit thank you. i saw their story on instagram and it had some like "low, high, something" as a label and 2 of the three were cones i want to say?? either way, was sweating it and now i'm not
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 13, 2022, 07:27:50 PM
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i’m sorry have been out of the loop for a while but are 5.8 lows a thing??
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i think those are the gilbert crockett 5.8s
no lows in sizes wider than 5.2
yet....?
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Those are lights with forged plate, probably where he got the "low" from.

I believe that it could be intentional miss labeled as low to get truck nerds to engage on the social media.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 13, 2022, 07:30:34 PM
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Nfg is going to drop a bushing. This is such good news. I’m definitely going to cop when available. I’ll cut them venture size if I have to. Pivot cups too. To have the most core set up is my mission
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Good news, they are Venture size. I have a test set and measured them with my calipers, the bottom bushings are about .01" thinner than bushings I previously had in my Ventures which is too small of a difference to notice in my opinion, especially considering that Deluxe's tolerances for their bushing sizing is within that range anyways. The top bushing is a bit smaller though, so you might have to crank them down a bit more to get a comparable turn to Venture bushings. I like how much more loose they make my Ventures though, they feel a lot more surfy and responsive.

That’s frickin awesome.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 13, 2022, 10:33:24 PM
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i’m sorry have been out of the loop for a while but are 5.8 lows a thing??
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i think those are the gilbert crockett 5.8s
no lows in sizes wider than 5.2
yet....?
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Those are lights with forged plate, probably where he got the "low" from.
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I believe that it could be intentional miss labeled as low to get truck nerds to engage on the social media.
but wait a minute
samples?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MalHuis on April 14, 2022, 12:59:19 AM
Yo Venture gang i need answers please.

Been on ace af1 55s and indy 149ti for some time now but have a quasi PStix pressed 8.25 that has flattened out. After some gear madness put some 148 team thunders on and love the pop feel after but 100% truth I'm defs not a thunder guy. It works so well I want to be but just cant.

Now my question, I'm considering some ventures and want to go 5.6 but not sure if i should go V-Hollow forged or Standard 5.6 cast? Which would be the closest to a 148 team thunders pop feel or am I way off and i will just be disappointed? I like the idea of a v-hollow with a slightly bigger wheel. but in my head the cast would work out better, I'm a Ben Degros guy and he hated the cast..Need help yo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on April 14, 2022, 05:36:09 AM
Yo Venture gang i need answers please.

Been on ace af1 55s and indy 149ti for some time now but have a quasi PStix pressed 8.25 that has flattened out. After some gear madness put some 148 team thunders on and love the pop feel after but 100% truth I'm defs not a thunder guy. It works so well I want to be but just cant.

Now my question, I'm considering some ventures and want to go 5.6 but not sure if i should go V-Hollow forged or Standard 5.6 cast? Which would be the closest to a 148 team thunders pop feel or am I way off and i will just be disappointed? I like the idea of a v-hollow with a slightly bigger wheel. but in my head the cast would work out better, I'm a Ben Degros guy and he hated the cast..Need help yo

Cast 100% since quasi have flat stubby tail and 14.25 WB. Cast will keep WB slightly shorter and the extra height works well with the stub tail. If you wanna nerd out put a hollow hanger on the cast baseplate to cut a bit of weight.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 14, 2022, 09:42:22 AM
I run the forged because I’m lazy and because I’m still mad at the height which I think is a considerable difference from a thunder…..

Ben’s rationale behind the forged was something like :‘I don’t know, it just doesn’t feel the same’ which I think is not far off from my assessment of ‘they look dumb’.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: maggot cunt on April 14, 2022, 11:29:18 AM
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Yo Venture gang i need answers please.

Been on ace af1 55s and indy 149ti for some time now but have a quasi PStix pressed 8.25 that has flattened out. After some gear madness put some 148 team thunders on and love the pop feel after but 100% truth I'm defs not a thunder guy. It works so well I want to be but just cant.

Now my question, I'm considering some ventures and want to go 5.6 but not sure if i should go V-Hollow forged or Standard 5.6 cast? Which would be the closest to a 148 team thunders pop feel or am I way off and i will just be disappointed? I like the idea of a v-hollow with a slightly bigger wheel. but in my head the cast would work out better, I'm a Ben Degros guy and he hated the cast..Need help yo
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Cast 100% since quasi have flat stubby tail and 14.25 WB. Cast will keep WB slightly shorter and the extra height works well with the stub tail. If you wanna nerd out put a hollow hanger on the cast baseplate to cut a bit of weight.

did this today, shit slaps
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 14, 2022, 01:01:52 PM
I run the forged because I’m lazy and because I’m still mad at the height which I think is a considerable difference from a thunder…..

Ben’s rationale behind the forged was something like :‘I don’t know, it just doesn’t feel the same’ which I think is not far off from my assessment of ‘they look dumb’.
forged ventures are the same height as cast thunders bar 147s
they dont look nearly as dumb as forged indys
bens heavy indy bias forces terrible takes on other trucks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on April 14, 2022, 02:49:51 PM
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I run the forged because I’m lazy and because I’m still mad at the height which I think is a considerable difference from a thunder…..

Ben’s rationale behind the forged was something like :‘I don’t know, it just doesn’t feel the same’ which I think is not far off from my assessment of ‘they look dumb’.
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forged ventures are the same height as cast thunders bar 147s
they dont look nearly as dumb as forged indys
bens heavy indy bias forces terrible takes on other trucks
I think you mean cast Thunder 148+ which are 52mm tall (161s are 53mm). Thunder 147s are pretty low (50mm) which is why they're kind of in a league of their own (with pros like Ishod and Cromer who ride 147s)
https://www.thundertrucks.com/sizing/

Venture cast height is 53.5mm and forged would be 52mm (for the High versions btw)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 14, 2022, 03:23:45 PM
My 147s from around the year 00 seem less than 50 mm tall.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: maggot cunt on April 17, 2022, 12:19:36 PM
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I run the forged because I’m lazy and because I’m still mad at the height which I think is a considerable difference from a thunder…..

Ben’s rationale behind the forged was something like :‘I don’t know, it just doesn’t feel the same’ which I think is not far off from my assessment of ‘they look dumb’.
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forged ventures are the same height as cast thunders bar 147s
they dont look nearly as dumb as forged indys
bens heavy indy bias forces terrible takes on other trucks
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I think you mean cast Thunder 148+ which are 52mm tall (161s are 53mm). Thunder 147s are pretty low (50mm) which is why they're kind of in a league of their own (with pros like Ishod and Cromer who ride 147s)
https://www.thundertrucks.com/sizing/

Venture cast height is 53.5mm and forged would be 52mm (for the High versions btw)

this is what he said
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on April 18, 2022, 09:34:09 AM
Any suggestions for tools for ventures? Doing a board switch on the sesh is a nightmare been using a diamond wrench that came with the hardware and it ain’t cuttin it. At home is fine I got tools but any skate tools work switching the hardware?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 18, 2022, 10:23:27 AM
Any suggestions for tools for ventures? Doing a board switch on the sesh is a nightmare been using a diamond wrench that came with the hardware and it ain’t cuttin it. At home is fine I got tools but any skate tools work switching the hardware?

I’ve put my Ventures back on my set up yesterday and used an Ace AF1 tool (the packable one). A bit tight but worked fine. Been really happy with the purchase of this tool!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on April 18, 2022, 10:24:06 AM
Any suggestions for tools for ventures? Doing a board switch on the sesh is a nightmare been using a diamond wrench that came with the hardware and it ain’t cuttin it. At home is fine I got tools but any skate tools work switching the hardware?
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The Silver tool is probably the best you can get for venture. The ratchet feature is dope and it's thin enough for the weird baseplate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 18, 2022, 10:59:32 AM
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I’ve put my Ventures back on my set up yesterday and used an Ace AF1 tool (the packable one). A bit tight but worked fine. Been really happy with the purchase of this tool!


Lurpivs to ventures? How you like it?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 18, 2022, 11:21:16 AM
Silver…..the only tool which can bankroll a truck company……..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BoxStuffer on April 18, 2022, 11:31:58 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CcgJZ-uPVTH/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 18, 2022, 11:35:15 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CcgJZ-uPVTH/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


I really like the graphics on the packaging.
Also, cool product.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 18, 2022, 11:39:04 AM
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Any suggestions for tools for ventures? Doing a board switch on the sesh is a nightmare been using a diamond wrench that came with the hardware and it ain’t cuttin it. At home is fine I got tools but any skate tools work switching the hardware?
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I’ve put my Ventures back on my set up yesterday and used an Ace AF1 tool (the packable one). A bit tight but worked fine. Been really happy with the purchase of this tool!
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Lurpivs to ventures? How you like it?

Yeah… I noticed on Saturday that even the regular kingpin on my Lurpivs was unscrewing. I heard this weird rattle but I thought it was the spot I was at, that has kind of tiles as floor. Then I looked at my trucks and the worn side of my kingpin nut was turned 45 degrees, so it was definitely loosening. I don’t know why it happens but I think it might be the lack of splinters in the kingpin that adds vibration and that makes the nut spin on its own. Bummed.

I put my ventures on because it was the ones I was riding before and they are almost brand new. Definitely a different feeling. I like the snappiness, and the grind feel they have. I also got some bones med bushings on them with the flat washers and they turn fine, I just miss the tight turns.  :'( With 52mm wheels I literally cannot wheelbite, it’s crazy.

By the way, I’m on some Hollow lights with the forged baseplates, is it really worth it to get the cast plates? I found a lightly used set on eBay and was thinking of using it for a “transplant”.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oak leaf on April 18, 2022, 11:54:51 AM
By the way, I’m on some Hollow lights with the forged baseplates, is it really worth it to get the cast plates? I found a lightly used set on eBay and was thinking of using it for a “transplant”.

I was rocking venture 5.6s with hollow axles and forged plates for a year and *trying* to like them because i liked ventures a lot when i was a kid.

Got some standard 5.8s from the local as a backup because i liked the color, but heard some hype on here about cast plates so i made the swap (cast plates + 5.6 hollow hangar).

feels exactly how i want/remember ventures feeling. Extra weight is negligible and the pop feels exactly right to me. I was very surprised how different it felt. Probably mostly to do w the height and wb differences

take this with a grain of salt because I’d say im like a below-average skater.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on April 18, 2022, 11:57:52 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CcgJZ-uPVTH/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

rad, wonder if they are gonna start putting out normal bushings too or stick with supercush which has been surprisingly hard to find of late.
also, since this comes up all the time in this thread, from the horse's mouth -
Quote from: venture instagram
thanks for checking, all of our stock bushings are 90duro, so the same as these hardness wise.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 18, 2022, 12:04:59 PM
Imo, it’s not worth the cast, UNLESS you have strong preferences regarding vibrations and shit like that. I prefer cast, over forged…but it’s not that deep. Rn. For me. I’m currently riding cast thunders (usually riding ventures, and sprinkle in some ace, you know, like an unhinged person).  I prefer the weight of cast trucks when grinding, and when riding over rougher ground. With thunders, the forged plate makes a low ish truck lower, and exacerbates thunders wheelbite tendencies. For me, with venture hi’s, the forged plate is cool. I prefer the pop of cast trucks tho.
** I believe the all cast are made at ermico in sf, and the forged are made outside of the us. I buy cast, for this reason, but have some forged plates as that was all that was available.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on April 18, 2022, 12:06:04 PM
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Any suggestions for tools for ventures? Doing a board switch on the sesh is a nightmare been using a diamond wrench that came with the hardware and it ain’t cuttin it. At home is fine I got tools but any skate tools work switching the hardware?
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I’ve put my Ventures back on my set up yesterday and used an Ace AF1 tool (the packable one). A bit tight but worked fine. Been really happy with the purchase of this tool!
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Lurpivs to ventures? How you like it?
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Yeah… I noticed on Saturday that even the regular kingpin on my Lurpivs was unscrewing. I heard this weird rattle but I thought it was the spot I was at, that has kind of tiles as floor. Then I looked at my trucks and the worn side of my kingpin nut was turned 45 degrees, so it was definitely loosening. I don’t know why it happens but I think it might be the lack of splinters in the kingpin that adds vibration and that makes the nut spin on its own. Bummed.

I put my ventures on because it was the ones I was riding before and they are almost brand new. Definitely a different feeling. I like the snappiness, and the grind feel they have. I also got some bones med bushings on them with the flat washers and they turn fine, I just miss the tight turns.  :'( With 52mm wheels I literally cannot wheelbite, it’s crazy.

By the way, I’m on some Hollow lights with the forged baseplates, is it really worth it to get the cast plates? I found a lightly used set on eBay and was thinking of using it for a “transplant”.
My brother has had both lights and regulars and I stepped on his board for both and they feel the same tbh. He does fakie front nose slides pretty much the same if not better currently.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 18, 2022, 12:53:38 PM
Yeah i don’t mind forged baseplates, I actually really like that “dry” snap they have. Forged indies are probably my fav trucks. I think I just wanna force myself to like ventures more than I actually do. I think they look so sick, definitely the most aesthetically pleasing truck, the team is sick, the merch is sick but then they just lack that little fun factor, almost too stable IMO. I’m going in a skate trip to Madrid in 3 weeks and I don’t wanna be annoyed with my trucks. Gonna give the ventures one more chance or I might just cave in and get some forged Indies again…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goingapelikenigo on April 18, 2022, 02:43:21 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CcgJZ-uPVTH/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
gonna give these a try :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 18, 2022, 02:52:10 PM
Yeah i don’t mind forged baseplates, I actually really like that “dry” snap they have. Forged indies are probably my fav trucks. I think I just wanna force myself to like ventures more than I actually do. I think they look so sick, definitely the most aesthetically pleasing truck, the team is sick, the merch is sick but then they just lack that little fun factor, almost too stable IMO. I’m going in a skate trip to Madrid in 3 weeks and I don’t wanna be annoyed with my trucks. Gonna give the ventures one more chance or I might just cave in and get some forged Indies again…


Agree with loving the look, vibe, merch, etc of venture. If they are too stable, the flat top washer, and/or bones bushings (I prefer the hards, run loose), help liven things up. Dramatically.
But Ventures don’t really indy, imo. If you are looking for you ventures to go closer to Indy, cast plates would help, along with the bushings, but then…I mean shit, you would have almost spent the amount to getting the different trucks you want. Ish.
For fun feeling trucks, for me, it’s ace. They feel wild. Amazing turn, and the pop is light. I just haven’t found the good combo as far as boards go for them, for me. So sometimes the setup is rad, other times I feel like I’m making a difficult activity, more difficult.


@joaqp two tops…First heard of Frank Gerwer doing it, then Ishod. Difficult to think of better endorsers.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 18, 2022, 03:44:14 PM
I agree about a flat washer and conical bushings make a big difference…..

Indy is the correct answer on a lot of fronts…..good that you acknowledge one of the best parts of skating ventures is the long sleeve…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 18, 2022, 04:23:40 PM
Yeah I’m riding the flat washer/bones meds combo already and it definitely improved. They carve better and feel surfy, but it’s just not a responsive truck by nature. And the turning radius is still on the wider side of things.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 18, 2022, 05:01:09 PM
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gonna give these a try :)

Based on what's known, you'd be better off getting a set of ACE Low bushings and calling it a day. Better urethane.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bunk Moreland on April 18, 2022, 05:07:53 PM
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gonna give these a try :)
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Based on what's known, you'd be better off getting a set of ACE Low bushings and calling it a day. Better urethane.
Lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 18, 2022, 05:33:00 PM
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gonna give these a try :)
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Based on what's known, you'd be better off getting a set of ACE Low bushings and calling it a day. Better urethane.
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Lol.

I did, at your post.

Venture stocks are bottom barrel, cumbly POS compared to ACE bushings, which are easily the best on the market. For any truck but Thunders...and nothing in that Venture gram leads me to believe that these low bushings are any different than stock except in height.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on April 18, 2022, 06:43:39 PM
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gonna give these a try :)
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Based on what's known, you'd be better off getting a set of ACE Low bushings and calling it a day. Better urethane.
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Lol.
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I did, at your post.

Venture stocks are bottom barrel, cumbly POS compared to ACE bushings, which are easily the best on the market. For any truck but Thunders...and nothing in that Venture gram leads me to believe that these low bushings are any different than stock except in height.

hey come on, give them a little credit - they made sure to trim the edges so there were no flappy bits
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 18, 2022, 06:49:24 PM
venture low bushings are shaving off mm in the right place
ideally you want to have shorter tops to keep the geometry
ace lows have 1mm shorter bottoms and 2mm taller tops

agreed that ace has great bushings
but the loose truck crowd often rides crumbly bushings anyway

will grab a set of those venture bushings for a transition setup
pairing with low profile kingpin nuts/flat washers for added space
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 18, 2022, 06:49:59 PM
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gonna give these a try :)
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Based on what's known, you'd be better off getting a set of ACE Low bushings and calling it a day. Better urethane.
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Lol.
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I did, at your post.

Venture stocks are bottom barrel, cumbly POS compared to ACE bushings, which are easily the best on the market. For any truck but Thunders...and nothing in that Venture gram leads me to believe that these low bushings are any different than stock except in height.
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hey come on, give them a little credit - they made sure to trim the edges so there were no flappy bits

I'll give them that, a bit more effort was done for these...

venture low bushings are shaving off mm in the right place
ideally you want to have shorter tops to keep the geometry
ace lows have 1mm shorter bottoms and 2mm taller tops

agreed that ace has great bushings
but loose truck crowd generally rides crumbly bushings anyway
venture low bushings are shaving off mm in the right place
ideally you want to have shorter tops to keep the geometry
ace lows have 1mm shorter bottoms and 2mm taller tops

agreed that ace has great bushings
but loose truck crowd generally rides crumbly bushings anyway

Having ridden ACE lows (top and bottom) in Venture (cast) it was the best feeling bushing combo I tried with them (flat washer of course). The ACE low bottom actually sits fine in both venture and indy (more so now that indy's stock bushings are 1-2mm lower than the aftermarkets and sold stock).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 18, 2022, 07:03:10 PM
Kinda dumb if you don’t use a flat washer because moving the washer lower just makes it bind with the hanger sooner. They should just make better stock bushings and include a flat washer aftermarket or something.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 18, 2022, 07:28:01 PM
Kinda dumb if you don’t use a flat washer because moving the washer lower just makes it bind with the hanger sooner. They should just make better stock bushings and include a flat washer aftermarket or something.

Seriously.

But that's a big change up though, having to source them then change production lines (and they probably have assloads of those top washers on hand).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on April 18, 2022, 11:22:32 PM
Yeah i don’t mind forged baseplates, I actually really like that “dry” snap they have. Forged indies are probably my fav trucks. I think I just wanna force myself to like ventures more than I actually do. I think they look so sick, definitely the most aesthetically pleasing truck, the team is sick, the merch is sick but then they just lack that little fun factor, almost too stable IMO. I’m going in a skate trip to Madrid in 3 weeks and I don’t wanna be annoyed with my trucks. Gonna give the ventures one more chance or I might just cave in and get some forged Indies again…

This is exactly how I feel. I love the look and the team and the merch, but I am absolutely forcing myself to like skating them more than I actually do I think. I probably skate my best on Indy but I just don’t want to skate Indy. I keep swapping between ace and venture because of this. The curse of gear madness I suppose. I’m probably would enjoy/progress more in skating if I just went back to Indy but I just don’t want to.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 19, 2022, 01:59:48 AM
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Yeah i don’t mind forged baseplates, I actually really like that “dry” snap they have. Forged indies are probably my fav trucks. I think I just wanna force myself to like ventures more than I actually do. I think they look so sick, definitely the most aesthetically pleasing truck, the team is sick, the merch is sick but then they just lack that little fun factor, almost too stable IMO. I’m going in a skate trip to Madrid in 3 weeks and I don’t wanna be annoyed with my trucks. Gonna give the ventures one more chance or I might just cave in and get some forged Indies again…
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This is exactly how I feel. I love the look and the team and the merch, but I am absolutely forcing myself to like skating them more than I actually do I think. I probably skate my best on Indy but I just don’t want to skate Indy. I keep swapping between ace and venture because of this. The curse of gear madness I suppose. I’m probably would enjoy/progress more in skating if I just went back to Indy but I just don’t want to.

**virtual hug**
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on April 19, 2022, 05:05:16 AM
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Yeah i don’t mind forged baseplates, I actually really like that “dry” snap they have. Forged indies are probably my fav trucks. I think I just wanna force myself to like ventures more than I actually do. I think they look so sick, definitely the most aesthetically pleasing truck, the team is sick, the merch is sick but then they just lack that little fun factor, almost too stable IMO. I’m going in a skate trip to Madrid in 3 weeks and I don’t wanna be annoyed with my trucks. Gonna give the ventures one more chance or I might just cave in and get some forged Indies again…
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This is exactly how I feel. I love the look and the team and the merch, but I am absolutely forcing myself to like skating them more than I actually do I think. I probably skate my best on Indy but I just don’t want to skate Indy. I keep swapping between ace and venture because of this. The curse of gear madness I suppose. I’m probably would enjoy/progress more in skating if I just went back to Indy but I just don’t want to.
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**virtual hug**

We need an Indy support group. It's ok to ride Indy's, not everyone can be a cool ace/venture guy.

Some of us are just doomed to ride the best, and want the rest.

Just remember to chant your affirmations. "GT, Nik Stain, Cyrus, Gustav, GT, Nik Stain, Cyrus, Gustav, GT, Nik Stain, Cyrus, Gustav"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on April 19, 2022, 05:32:57 AM
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Yeah i don’t mind forged baseplates, I actually really like that “dry” snap they have. Forged indies are probably my fav trucks. I think I just wanna force myself to like ventures more than I actually do. I think they look so sick, definitely the most aesthetically pleasing truck, the team is sick, the merch is sick but then they just lack that little fun factor, almost too stable IMO. I’m going in a skate trip to Madrid in 3 weeks and I don’t wanna be annoyed with my trucks. Gonna give the ventures one more chance or I might just cave in and get some forged Indies again…
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This is exactly how I feel. I love the look and the team and the merch, but I am absolutely forcing myself to like skating them more than I actually do I think. I probably skate my best on Indy but I just don’t want to skate Indy. I keep swapping between ace and venture because of this. The curse of gear madness I suppose. I’m probably would enjoy/progress more in skating if I just went back to Indy but I just don’t want to.

I feel this way. Tried ace loved classics then AF1 quality Control left  a bad taste in my mouth. I got hurt and when I got better I put some old thunders on and loved them. Flirted with venture and idk if I like them and don’t like the board I have them  on or maybe I’m a Thunder guy. Long story short. If you have old thunders give them a shot. It’s like the baby Indy and venture had.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 19, 2022, 06:55:32 AM
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Yeah i don’t mind forged baseplates, I actually really like that “dry” snap they have. Forged indies are probably my fav trucks. I think I just wanna force myself to like ventures more than I actually do. I think they look so sick, definitely the most aesthetically pleasing truck, the team is sick, the merch is sick but then they just lack that little fun factor, almost too stable IMO. I’m going in a skate trip to Madrid in 3 weeks and I don’t wanna be annoyed with my trucks. Gonna give the ventures one more chance or I might just cave in and get some forged Indies again…
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This is exactly how I feel. I love the look and the team and the merch, but I am absolutely forcing myself to like skating them more than I actually do I think. I probably skate my best on Indy but I just don’t want to skate Indy. I keep swapping between ace and venture because of this. The curse of gear madness I suppose. I’m probably would enjoy/progress more in skating if I just went back to Indy but I just don’t want to.
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**virtual hug**

You guys have room for one more.

I had a soft spot for Ventures skating them a lot growing up and did generally like them for a short period of time when I would ride them. Then a bushing would crumble or I would get a longer deck and they would just feel a bit dead. Also even when they were heavier cast variants they never had the same snap/suck up that a heavy Indy has they were just a chore. Frankensteining hollows and cast got annoying.

Indy lack that wow but for a good reason. I can buy them and adjust them once and they’re dependable and feel great on the range of decks I skate. They’re not “cool”, but I can get the turn of the two close enough and at this age skating my best is the most important simply because I’m not that great.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 19, 2022, 07:53:39 AM
I’ll chime in to mention that it’s important for me to skate something that gets me hyped. I’m old, behind on life stuff, tired…I need an extra gust to get me out and into the struggle some days. Sometimes the hype comes from a vibe, and not the best ‘performance’.
That being said, I like Ventures, quite a bit. I need to grab some more 5.8s, I love to just ride around and ollie with those.
Venture for sure have some things they don’t do as well, for me the initial grind is a lot more difficult. I also suck at grinds, so when I say that, I should say ‘the initial frontside 50/50 on a small ledge at a skatepark, that doesn’t even count because frontside 50/50+skatepark+slow, is more difficult’. I also don’t try and skate bowls, and I could see how an ace/indy would be an advantage vs a thunder/venture in transitions.
If I skated better with Indy’s I’d fuck with em, I always end up wanting something a little different when I ride them. I like them, I’ll buy them again in the future, but …
Shoutout to J….for the ‘best thing about riding them is the long sleeve’.
There is an old pick of Keenan doing a trick in I think SF, and the board graphic is Venture and it’s too sick.

How some of you all are speaking on Indy, I basically feel about Nike: I can just grab my size in one of their shoes and know it’ll work. Probably fit the best, probably last the longest. Sometimes I do that. But I’ll keep trying to replace them/find something different.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 19, 2022, 08:35:04 AM
I’ll chime in to mention that it’s important for me to skate something that gets me hyped. I’m old, behind on life stuff, tired…I need an extra gust to get me out and into the struggle some days. Sometimes the hype comes from a vibe, and not the best ‘performance’.
That being said, I like Ventures, quite a bit. I need to grab some more 5.8s, I love to just ride around and ollie with those.
Venture for sure have some things they don’t do as well, for me the initial grind is a lot more difficult. I also suck at grinds, so when I say that, I should say ‘the initial frontside 50/50 on a small ledge at a skatepark, that doesn’t even count because frontside 50/50+skatepark+slow, is more difficult’. I also don’t try and skate bowls, and I could see how an ace/indy would be an advantage vs a thunder/venture in transitions.
If I skated better with Indy’s I’d fuck with em, I always end up wanting something a little different when I ride them. I like them, I’ll buy them again in the future, but …
Shoutout to J….for the ‘best thing about riding them is the long sleeve’.
There is an old pick of Keenan doing a trick in I think SF, and the board graphic is Venture and it’s too sick.

How some of you all are speaking on Indy, I basically feel about Nike: I can just grab my size in one of their shoes and know it’ll work. Probably fit the best, probably last the longest. Sometimes I do that. But I’ll keep trying to replace them/find something different.

Yeah man, I feel you on that. But trying new stuff is also part of the fun isn’t it? Can’t keep it too boring, it’s cool to experiment with stuff…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on April 19, 2022, 12:31:39 PM
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I’ll chime in to mention that it’s important for me to skate something that gets me hyped. I’m old, behind on life stuff, tired…I need an extra gust to get me out and into the struggle some days. Sometimes the hype comes from a vibe, and not the best ‘performance’.
That being said, I like Ventures, quite a bit. I need to grab some more 5.8s, I love to just ride around and ollie with those.
Venture for sure have some things they don’t do as well, for me the initial grind is a lot more difficult. I also suck at grinds, so when I say that, I should say ‘the initial frontside 50/50 on a small ledge at a skatepark, that doesn’t even count because frontside 50/50+skatepark+slow, is more difficult’. I also don’t try and skate bowls, and I could see how an ace/indy would be an advantage vs a thunder/venture in transitions.
If I skated better with Indy’s I’d fuck with em, I always end up wanting something a little different when I ride them. I like them, I’ll buy them again in the future, but …
Shoutout to J….for the ‘best thing about riding them is the long sleeve’.
There is an old pick of Keenan doing a trick in I think SF, and the board graphic is Venture and it’s too sick.

How some of you all are speaking on Indy, I basically feel about Nike: I can just grab my size in one of their shoes and know it’ll work. Probably fit the best, probably last the longest. Sometimes I do that. But I’ll keep trying to replace them/find something different.
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Yeah man, I feel you on that. But trying new stuff is also part of the fun isn’t it? Can’t keep it too boring, it’s cool to experiment with stuff…

I agree trying new stuff is part of the fun. I think I get more hyped on skating stuff if a skater I like is skating it. Like I started skating ventures because of Carl aikens and Erik Herrera and also Bobby worrest. Same thing with ace. Seeing deedz and Kevin Rodrigues on ace made me want to try them out. I guess Indy still has some sick dudes though like Justin Henry and sick rizzo, heitor seems to be skating Indy’s mostly too so maybe I just need to swallow my pride
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 19, 2022, 12:57:40 PM
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I’ll chime in to mention that it’s important for me to skate something that gets me hyped. I’m old, behind on life stuff, tired…I need an extra gust to get me out and into the struggle some days. Sometimes the hype comes from a vibe, and not the best ‘performance’.
That being said, I like Ventures, quite a bit. I need to grab some more 5.8s, I love to just ride around and ollie with those.
Venture for sure have some things they don’t do as well, for me the initial grind is a lot more difficult. I also suck at grinds, so when I say that, I should say ‘the initial frontside 50/50 on a small ledge at a skatepark, that doesn’t even count because frontside 50/50+skatepark+slow, is more difficult’. I also don’t try and skate bowls, and I could see how an ace/indy would be an advantage vs a thunder/venture in transitions.
If I skated better with Indy’s I’d fuck with em, I always end up wanting something a little different when I ride them. I like them, I’ll buy them again in the future, but …
Shoutout to J….for the ‘best thing about riding them is the long sleeve’.
There is an old pick of Keenan doing a trick in I think SF, and the board graphic is Venture and it’s too sick.

How some of you all are speaking on Indy, I basically feel about Nike: I can just grab my size in one of their shoes and know it’ll work. Probably fit the best, probably last the longest. Sometimes I do that. But I’ll keep trying to replace them/find something different.
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Yeah man, I feel you on that. But trying new stuff is also part of the fun isn’t it? Can’t keep it too boring, it’s cool to experiment with stuff…
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I agree trying new stuff is part of the fun. I think I get more hyped on skating stuff if a skater I like is skating it. Like I started skating ventures because of Carl aikens and Erik Herrera and also Bobby worrest. Same thing with ace. Seeing deedz and Kevin Rodrigues on ace made me want to try them out. I guess Indy still has some sick dudes though like Justin Henry and sick rizzo, heitor seems to be skating Indy’s mostly too so maybe I just need to swallow my pride


I’m all about trying different stuff. I’m riding a setup that was a total whim, and way outside of the boundaries of what I’d normally ride, now it’s my main. I’m trying to hold off on trying a more extreme version.

I’m very comfortable admitting that I’m easily/cruelly influenced by skaters, both pros and locals.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Damoforce on April 19, 2022, 04:15:57 PM
What bushing set up is everyone running for tighter trucks on their Ventures?

Currently, I am using Thunder 100D and they going well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 19, 2022, 07:13:15 PM
What bushing set up is everyone running for tighter trucks on their Ventures?

Currently, I am using Thunder 100D and they going well.

Mine are stock and going fine on the couple of sets I have, but others I know who do ride tighter trucks go between Indy yellow bushings, Bones hard bushings and the same ones you have, the Thunder rebuild kits in all black.

I think one guy in particular has tried almost every different harder bushing on the market but keeps coming back to those three at different times.

It is funny though cause all of them when worn in and passed on to me from those guys don't really feel that hard, but that is just me.  I guess it is more the fact that they are very stable with those bushings, even when not done up very tight so they can still lean over a fair way but not so loosey goosey as stock bushings or other softer ones when not done up much / kingpin nut just on.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on April 19, 2022, 07:14:15 PM
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Yeah i don’t mind forged baseplates, I actually really like that “dry” snap they have. Forged indies are probably my fav trucks. I think I just wanna force myself to like ventures more than I actually do. I think they look so sick, definitely the most aesthetically pleasing truck, the team is sick, the merch is sick but then they just lack that little fun factor, almost too stable IMO. I’m going in a skate trip to Madrid in 3 weeks and I don’t wanna be annoyed with my trucks. Gonna give the ventures one more chance or I might just cave in and get some forged Indies again…
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This is exactly how I feel. I love the look and the team and the merch, but I am absolutely forcing myself to like skating them more than I actually do I think. I probably skate my best on Indy but I just don’t want to skate Indy. I keep swapping between ace and venture because of this. The curse of gear madness I suppose. I’m probably would enjoy/progress more in skating if I just went back to Indy but I just don’t want to.
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I feel this way. Tried ace loved classics then AF1 quality Control left  a bad taste in my mouth. I got hurt and when I got better I put some old thunders on and loved them. Flirted with venture and idk if I like them and don’t like the board I have them  on or maybe I’m a Thunder guy. Long story short. If you have old thunders give them a shot. It’s like the baby Indy and venture had.

Similar experience, but idk the small differences in trucks irks me; I first had ace, and those were nice but the pop was sometimes shit and etc. Went to thunder and those were really good in all aspects except the hanger being so thin and trim; i didnt like the grind. im on venture now and the grind is much better, almost like indy, but the turn is kinda ass so i had to fuck with bushings.

maybe indy IS the truck i need but it will the last truck i try. For me thunders are viable for literally everything but with ledges i have a hard time in the streets. I think i will stick to thunders now but just keep a brick of wax on me LMAO
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 19, 2022, 10:53:21 PM
But what about the long sleeve?  Can you name any photo of someone wearing that stupid heart grenade thing?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 19, 2022, 10:58:41 PM
But what about the long sleeve?  Can you name any photo of someone wearing that stupid heart grenade thing?

So true
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Jonny7.5Alive on April 19, 2022, 11:03:10 PM
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Yeah i don’t mind forged baseplates, I actually really like that “dry” snap they have. Forged indies are probably my fav trucks. I think I just wanna force myself to like ventures more than I actually do. I think they look so sick, definitely the most aesthetically pleasing truck, the team is sick, the merch is sick but then they just lack that little fun factor, almost too stable IMO. I’m going in a skate trip to Madrid in 3 weeks and I don’t wanna be annoyed with my trucks. Gonna give the ventures one more chance or I might just cave in and get some forged Indies again…
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This is exactly how I feel. I love the look and the team and the merch, but I am absolutely forcing myself to like skating them more than I actually do I think. I probably skate my best on Indy but I just don’t want to skate Indy. I keep swapping between ace and venture because of this. The curse of gear madness I suppose. I’m probably would enjoy/progress more in skating if I just went back to Indy but I just don’t want to.
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I feel this way. Tried ace loved classics then AF1 quality Control left  a bad taste in my mouth. I got hurt and when I got better I put some old thunders on and loved them. Flirted with venture and idk if I like them and don’t like the board I have them  on or maybe I’m a Thunder guy. Long story short. If you have old thunders give them a shot. It’s like the baby Indy and venture had.
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Similar experience, but idk the small differences in trucks irks me; I first had ace, and those were nice but the pop was sometimes shit and etc. Went to thunder and those were really good in all aspects except the hanger being so thin and trim; i didnt like the grind. im on venture now and the grind is much better, almost like indy, but the turn is kinda ass so i had to fuck with bushings.

maybe indy IS the truck i need but it will the last truck i try. For me thunders are viable for literally everything but with ledges i have a hard time in the streets. I think i will stick to thunders now but just keep a brick of wax on me LMAO

The new Royals are the best all rounder truck IMO

Similar to Indy's but more stable on center.... With Thunder/Venture pop

Check out the new Royals thread
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 19, 2022, 11:52:54 PM
So I come to report that I gave my Ventures a chance again yesterday and holy shit, I was really feeling them! Before I started the sesh I loosen them half a spin, which puts them at like the last thread of nyloc holding the kingpin nut, and almost too wobbly for what I’m used too… but damn, it’s like they flourished. I actually felt consistent and altho it’s not the deepest turning radius they didn’t felt as laggy when turning and I didn’t think they where hindering my skating in any way. One of the best sessions I had in recent times.

What my rig looks like:
(https://i.ibb.co/smqQSR6/770-C8955-D348-4-A0-C-82-C9-A157-D26188-D3.jpg)
5.6 V-hollows with bones meds and flat washers, loosened to the max, 3 speed rings on the inner side of each wheel. 52 mm wheels on a 8.25deck

I already had tabs open for new trucks but I think I’m gonna stick with them for a bit longer. Am I awakened?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 20, 2022, 12:09:03 AM
welcome back
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on April 20, 2022, 04:00:00 AM
Help please! Bought some standard venture high 5.8s recently after only skating indy for 20 years....i want to love the ventures, but i just cant seem to get them to turn close to my indys. They have the stock purple clearish bushings in them so not sure how hard those are...i have the kingpin nut as loose as you can get it without falling off. Probably had about 10 sessions on the ventures and still kot turning good. Should i wait it out? What bushings do you recommend to get them a deeper turn? I saw some people saying the deluxe supercush bushings are good in ventures but wasnt sure if i should go with the 91 or 88 duro on those....does anyone run bones soft bushings in there? Ive never used aftermarket bushings in trucks and normally just ran the standard orange bushings in indys and they turned really good for me. Let me know what yall think. Would greatly appreciate any info !

Reporting back after the bushing change...so i ended up going with the bones soft bushings. I set them up with a new board and wheels last night and got my first sesh with the bones bushings and i must say im a big fan now. Im fairly light at 135 lbs so the softs turn really well for me. I would say it might be the closest feeling turn i have gotten to new indys which is the type of turn i was going for. I was skating a slappy curb and using my old setup at first with the indys, and once i swapped to the venture set up my lock in was on point with the ventures and those things were going on the chunky curbs. Glad i took everyone's recommendation on the bones bushings and gave them another try. Definitely will be sticking with the ventures for the foreseeable future and look forward to getting them full broke in. If your an indy rider and want to switch to venture but are skeptical, try the bones bushings with them! Game changer
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 20, 2022, 07:45:06 AM
So I come to report that I gave my Ventures a chance again yesterday and holy shit, I was really feeling them! Before I started the sesh I loosen them half a spin, which puts them at like the last thread of nyloc holding the kingpin nut, and almost too wobbly for what I’m used too… but damn, it’s like they flourished. I actually felt consistent and altho it’s not the deepest turning radius they didn’t felt as laggy when turning and I didn’t think they where hindering my skating in any way. One of the best sessions I had in recent times.

What my rig looks like:
(https://i.ibb.co/smqQSR6/770-C8955-D348-4-A0-C-82-C9-A157-D26188-D3.jpg)
5.6 V-hollows with bones meds and flat washers, loosened to the max, 3 speed rings on the inner side of each wheel. 52 mm wheels on a 8.25deck

I already had tabs open for new trucks but I think I’m gonna stick with them for a bit longer. Am I awakened?

I predict you don’t stick with it. The nut being that high will eventually bite hard on grinds and the pop feel is still the pop feel. That’s an FA deck it looks like which has a short WB so it’s likely OK, but I never loved the Venture pop feel. Can’t change the grind if you care about that sorta thing and the lack of stability on center to try and duplicate the more consistent Indy turning will eventually get tiresome depending on how you setup for tricks. They’re always a slower turning more laggy Indy, which is totally fine if you don’t like certain aspects of Indy’s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on April 20, 2022, 08:09:53 AM
But what about the long sleeve?  Can you name any photo of someone wearing that stupid heart grenade thing?

The heart thing looks fucking bad. Like early 2000s mall shit. But the kinda old English font that just says Thunder don’t look bad. Ventures branding is probably the best out of truck branding.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: maggot cunt on April 20, 2022, 08:15:20 AM
So I come to report that I gave my Ventures a chance again yesterday and holy shit, I was really feeling them! Before I started the sesh I loosen them half a spin, which puts them at like the last thread of nyloc holding the kingpin nut, and almost too wobbly for what I’m used too… but damn, it’s like they flourished. I actually felt consistent and altho it’s not the deepest turning radius they didn’t felt as laggy when turning and I didn’t think they where hindering my skating in any way. One of the best sessions I had in recent times.

What my rig looks like:
(https://i.ibb.co/smqQSR6/770-C8955-D348-4-A0-C-82-C9-A157-D26188-D3.jpg)
5.6 V-hollows with bones meds and flat washers, loosened to the max, 3 speed rings on the inner side of each wheel. 52 mm wheels on a 8.25deck

I already had tabs open for new trucks but I think I’m gonna stick with them for a bit longer. Am I awakened?

you gotta be under a buck fifty
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 20, 2022, 10:14:05 AM
I run something similar but skate standard BBS stuff ie. Alltimers/Isle…..I just don’t like Indy’s because they are so damn heavy….the mids insulted my intelligence….if the weight doesn’t bother you….it’s pretty much an idiot proof truck….

This set up is the alternative to the hollow/tih thunder teams for me which I didn’t like the wheelbite, and the clearance.  Oh…and the stupid logo….

If I was gonna skate another truck it would be the Ace low….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 20, 2022, 10:42:29 AM
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So I come to report that I gave my Ventures a chance again yesterday and holy shit, I was really feeling them! Before I started the sesh I loosen them half a spin, which puts them at like the last thread of nyloc holding the kingpin nut, and almost too wobbly for what I’m used too… but damn, it’s like they flourished. I actually felt consistent and altho it’s not the deepest turning radius they didn’t felt as laggy when turning and I didn’t think they where hindering my skating in any way. One of the best sessions I had in recent times.

What my rig looks like:
(https://i.ibb.co/smqQSR6/770-C8955-D348-4-A0-C-82-C9-A157-D26188-D3.jpg)
5.6 V-hollows with bones meds and flat washers, loosened to the max, 3 speed rings on the inner side of each wheel. 52 mm wheels on a 8.25deck

I already had tabs open for new trucks but I think I’m gonna stick with them for a bit longer. Am I awakened?
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you gotta be under a buck fifty

Please crazy glue/Loctite that nut, it's giving me anxiety for your safety...How much do you weight tho? You might be better suited with bones soft bottoms, hard tops...get that nut a bit more secure.


I predict you don’t stick with it. The nut being that high will eventually bite hard on grinds and the pop feel is still the pop feel. That’s an FA deck it looks like which has a short WB so it’s likely OK, but I never loved the Venture pop feel. Can’t change the grind if you care about that sorta thing and the lack of stability on center to try and duplicate the more consistent Indy turning will eventually get tiresome depending on how you setup for tricks. They’re always a slower turning more laggy Indy, which is totally fine if you don’t like certain aspects of Indy’s.

Speaking the truth here. I learned my lesson with Ventures (and thunders): They are what they are and you can't make them skate like Indy, just ride indys at that point ;) but you can push them both (all) to the limits of what they are capable of in terms of turn with bushings. People will hate, but stock Thunder and Venture (same factory go figure ;) are pretty weak compared to other truck offerings and changing them up get them both feeling frisky.

Highly recommend ACE Low bushings in Venture/flat washers top and bottom.

Thunders were trickier but a venom bottom/riptide top combo really change how they feel without detracting anything.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 20, 2022, 10:59:12 AM
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So I come to report that I gave my Ventures a chance again yesterday and holy shit, I was really feeling them! Before I started the sesh I loosen them half a spin, which puts them at like the last thread of nyloc holding the kingpin nut, and almost too wobbly for what I’m used too… but damn, it’s like they flourished. I actually felt consistent and altho it’s not the deepest turning radius they didn’t felt as laggy when turning and I didn’t think they where hindering my skating in any way. One of the best sessions I had in recent times.

What my rig looks like:
(https://i.ibb.co/smqQSR6/770-C8955-D348-4-A0-C-82-C9-A157-D26188-D3.jpg)
5.6 V-hollows with bones meds and flat washers, loosened to the max, 3 speed rings on the inner side of each wheel. 52 mm wheels on a 8.25deck

I already had tabs open for new trucks but I think I’m gonna stick with them for a bit longer. Am I awakened?
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I predict you don’t stick with it. The nut being that high will eventually bite hard on grinds and the pop feel is still the pop feel. That’s an FA deck it looks like which has a short WB so it’s likely OK, but I never loved the Venture pop feel. Can’t change the grind if you care about that sorta thing and the lack of stability on center to try and duplicate the more consistent Indy turning will eventually get tiresome depending on how you setup for tricks. They’re always a slower turning more laggy Indy, which is totally fine if you don’t like certain aspects of Indy’s.

Well, if there’s a thing that wasn’t happening yesterday was bitting doing smiths and feebles. Actually I’ve been kinda sucking at front smiths on ledges lately and yesterday was like they just clicked. Also got my feebles down the A-frame rail back again after not doing it for a long ass time. Both felt good and easy… Slides, I know I’ll be fine if I land those kinda 45degree backtails and still carve my way out of it and not tic-tac… one of the main reasons I want trucks that have a responsive turn!
On the pop feel topic, it’s maybe my fav thing about ventures. They might extend the wheelbase but they are also lower and I think that compensates it. It’s not like I was struggling with flips in general and 360 flips actually feel nice. I just think my set up feels crispy/snappy and I like that a lot! And the turn now feels pretty manageable, I think I can deal with it for a bit longer at least. Gotta make my money worth!  ;)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 20, 2022, 11:12:02 AM
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Please crazy glue/Loctite that nut, it's giving me anxiety for your safety...How much do you weight tho? You might be better suited with bones soft bottoms, hard tops...get that nut a bit more secure.

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I predict you don’t stick with it. The nut being that high will eventually bite hard on grinds and the pop feel is still the pop feel. That’s an FA deck it looks like which has a short WB so it’s likely OK, but I never loved the Venture pop feel. Can’t change the grind if you care about that sorta thing and the lack of stability on center to try and duplicate the more consistent Indy turning will eventually get tiresome depending on how you setup for tricks. They’re always a slower turning more laggy Indy, which is totally fine if you don’t like certain aspects of Indy’s.
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Speaking the truth here. I learned my lesson with Ventures (and thunders): They are what they are and you can't make them skate like Indy, just ride indys at that point ;) but you can push them both (all) to the limits of what they are capable of in terms of turn with bushings. People will hate, but stock Thunder and Venture (same factory go figure ;) are pretty weak compared to other truck offerings and changing them up get them both feeling frisky.

Highly recommend ACE Low bushings in Venture/flat washers top and bottom.

Thunders were trickier but a venom bottom/riptide top combo really change how they feel without detracting anything.

I’m a light dude, 64kg, 140pounds (just checked ahah). I don’t wanna buy bones softs cause I heard they blow out really fast and those bushings aren’t particularly cheap to keep changing it all the time. If it starts feeling too sketchy I might just shave the top bushing a lil bit… or I just embrace it, living on the edge is radical I guess  8)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 20, 2022, 12:17:40 PM
Not to fuck with your mind too much, but after comparing lots of setups your setup with modded ventures is the same WB and board pop angle as a more standard WB and Indy’s. Not that that will be better, but tuck that away for later just in case. Trucks look super new so you could hit axle on em before it would matter.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 20, 2022, 12:51:38 PM
I don’t fuck with the blue soft bushings, not only do they blowout quick, in my experience the turn is also mushy. For comparison, I weigh 170 ish.
Like others have mentioned, I wouldn’t recommend the nut that loose, but you are experienced, you’ll find what works for you. I’m sure someone else has mentioned it, but you could shave the bushings down (I used to rub them back and forth on the griptape), or tighten them down further, skate for a bit in the the over tightened position, and then loosen em back up. All of this would be in the name of getting the kingpin nut totally on there.
Seeing that you like a truck this loose, I mean shit, fuck indy go straight to ace. If it’s all about the turn, then those are the ones. I used to shit on af-1s, but they turn great, and if you like shit this loose, their soft ass pivot cups won’t likely bother you.
This is the venture thread tho, and from my experience, I can get ventures to turn in away that works well for how I skate. And the pop, which is my number one piece of truck criteria, is the shit, so good. Compared to some other trucks, ace in particular, the venture turn is lacking. What I found is that it didn’t hamper my actual skateboarding, riding ventures. Less wiggling, more landing. The bottom barrel bushing is certainly stiff, I had my 5.8s so loose on their maiden voyage that I dropped the hanger. Sucked.
Be safe fam!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 20, 2022, 12:59:32 PM
You can get low profile nuts off the internet I think @PuffinMuffin has them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 20, 2022, 01:26:13 PM
I don’t fuck with the blue soft bushings, not only do they blowout quick, in my experience the turn is also mushy. For comparison, I weigh 170 ish.
Like others have mentioned, I wouldn’t recommend the nut that loose, but you are experienced, you’ll find what works for you. I’m sure someone else has mentioned it, but you could shave the bushings down (I used to rub them back and forth on the griptape), or tighten them down further, skate for a bit in the the over tightened position, and then loosen em back up. All of this would be in the name of getting the kingpin nut totally on there.
Seeing that you like a truck this loose, I mean shit, fuck indy go straight to ace. If it’s all about the turn, then those are the ones. I used to shit on af-1s, but they turn great, and if you like shit this loose, their soft ass pivot cups won’t likely bother you.
This is the venture thread tho, and from my experience, I can get ventures to turn in away that works well for how I skate. And the pop, which is my number one piece of truck criteria, is the shit, so good. Compared to some other trucks, ace in particular, the venture turn is lacking. What I found is that it didn’t hamper my actual skateboarding, riding ventures. Less wiggling, more landing. The bottom barrel bushing is certainly stiff, I had my 5.8s so loose on their maiden voyage that I dropped the hanger. Sucked.
Be safe fam!

I have ace 77s on my big cruiser board… I like them, they’re fun, but I feel like Aces are just heavy as fuck (I mean 44’s or 55’s), that’s why I’m bummed they prioritised releasing Low trucks over the long waited regular hollows. (I still don’t get the need of an Ace low tbh). I don’t even ride regular Indy’s, shits like an anvil, I need my some forged hollows for my weak ass legs.
I think I ride my trucks somewhat medium, and not as loose as you think. At least I have friends that ride much looser and rattly. But to get close to that indy medium feeling I need to loose the shit out of my ventures, that’s why the nut is so loose. As I said I might just shave the top bushing so y’all can sleep peacefully  ;D

@LebowskisRug low profile nuts would be a good idea too! Like big shorty’s lights for kingpins…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 20, 2022, 03:15:35 PM
@Sk.A.T.A.N
using these in my 6.1s
they are 2mm shorter than regular kingpin nuts iirc
i can wiggle my trucks by hand with the nuts flush

https://www.acerracing.com/products/3-8-24-titanium-skateboard-truck-kingpin-nuts-2-pieces?variant=14347926896675&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 20, 2022, 04:39:15 PM
@Sk.A.T.A.N
using these in my 6.1s
they are 2mm shorter than regular kingpin nuts iirc
i can wiggle my trucks by hand with the nuts flush

https://www.acerracing.com/products/3-8-24-titanium-skateboard-truck-kingpin-nuts-2-pieces?variant=14347926896675&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic

I've brought this up a few times before, the nylock in these is shit (especially if you tweak your truck tightness often; this also applies to the axle nuts.), it's hard plastic and you have less of it and it will wear out. Additionally, I had two (plus one axle nut) where the nylock pushed out and needed to be replaced (which they did), very similar to what happens with Lurpivs.

Major injury incurred due to one of these falling off (still paying for it physically). YMMV.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 20, 2022, 05:55:05 PM
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@Sk.A.T.A.N
using these in my 6.1s
they are 2mm shorter than regular kingpin nuts iirc
i can wiggle my trucks by hand with the nuts flush

https://www.acerracing.com/products/3-8-24-titanium-skateboard-truck-kingpin-nuts-2-pieces?variant=14347926896675&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic
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I've brought this up a few times before, the nylock in these is shit (especially if you tweak your truck tightness often; this also applies to the axle nuts.), it's hard plastic and you have less of it and it will wear out. Additionally, I had two (plus one axle nut) where the nylock pushed out and needed to be replaced (which they did), very similar to what happens with Lurpivs.

Major injury incurred due to one of these falling off (still paying for it physically). YMMV.
nylock has been a slight issue for me if they aren trying flush
bringing my skate tool everywhere just incase
any way to replace nylock? or is it just loctite
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 21, 2022, 07:24:35 PM
Blue loctite or just Teflon tape on the kingpin can shore it up for minor adjustments
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on April 21, 2022, 09:06:59 PM
(https://imgur.com/BJcpAyKl.jpg)

Put some 5.2 low hollow hangers on 5.2 low cast baseplate . Using stock bushings and a bones flat top washer . Tightened the kingpin nut just enough to be flush and they are super loose and turn really well after my first session .
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 21, 2022, 09:37:58 PM
The plates are the same between the 2 aren’t they?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on April 21, 2022, 10:08:27 PM
The plates are the same between the 2 aren’t they?

The hollow hangars came originally on forged baseplates with hollow kingpins.

Set up on a fa 8.18 with some what used to be 99du 52mm classic f4
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 22, 2022, 03:28:57 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CcgJZ-uPVTH/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

I just caem in my pants. These are old school thunder size and colour.  I had a set of thunder low dark green see thru. They was like old school bushings.

I rode those same trucks 5 days a from 2002 to 2016. I stopped doing grinds pretty much and was doing mostly high speed black out skateboarding in heavy traffic from the methadone clinic every day.

I learned to skate around switch like I was born regs.  I would find a dope hill and just over and over bash my back truck on curbs instead of Ollie.

They died when I started doing grinds in 2016. Turned to dust.

I had element ceramic bearings that lasted 2 years less. Like sub 44 mm adhd. The super ball wheels I had that was wide and white before that went from 2005? To frickin 2015 too.
The core ripped out going to a show in Allston I fell totally blacked out with a bag full of paint and beers.

The adhd wheels were fun I still got them somewhere. Stupid small and varied mm sizes from wear and tear.

I’m only going to buy like two pairs because I’m also stoked on the Nfg Mfg stuff too. I know mad people will find the dlx stuff. Those other guy need our support

Because I suck at cutting bushings I’ll use one set as a template to cut all bushings. I haven’t had to cut any for like 2 years because the purps I got from a pal worked out. I been taking them from truck to truck. I had some poor luck with purps I can’t front on a pal.

Other good venture news. I’m giving a kid at the park my old trucks.  They are kinda beat but I’ll throw the hollow base plate I don’t use in there with some purps that I couldn’t skate.

I gotta convince him not to buy some kook shit. I be thinking about that. He’s to google for that. He been skating like less than two years and he is starting to kill at skateboarding.

Venture needs more converts. It’s about legacy. Thunder and venture are the trucks that birthed real street skateboarding.
Ace is dope too because they ain’t no toy company though I’m not going to get over the loss of the classic. Thank the dark lord of skatan that I still got one more pair from before Covid on ice.

Word up to pals. If the kid sticks with the used truck I’ll throw him new cast hangers. I can do that and still be good with a pair on board and a pair of ace on ice.

I have some 5.2 too but one is high the other low. That was a bad move for me. I got some like stage 7 for baby boards somewhere too.

I’m thinking of selling a testi. I heard you can get like 35 grand for a healthy one. I can buy a car and a few sets of 6.1s to put on ice lol

If I didn’t break them in the 90s learning board slides on rails.

I wasn’t out there in rain coats for like my whole life I’m lucky af I’m not host to some kinda crazy funk and I’m so so lucky I didn’t put anything in an oven. Or else I probably wouldn’t be able to buy or even use 6.1s.

Here’s to being a free man all my life
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 23, 2022, 01:37:05 PM
Skated my venture hollows now the 6th time - do they get loser after a few days or is it me?


Also I really need to skate another deck with them. My 8“ magenta right now does not feel right, maybe really because the tail is short. 6.3 or something like that
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 23, 2022, 07:10:30 PM
Skated my venture hollows now the 6th time - do they get loser after a few days or is it me?


Also I really need to skate another deck with them. My 8“ magenta right now does not feel right, maybe really because the tail is short. 6.3 or something like that

I have heard the tighten up. I’ve found the opposite. My trucks got nice and loose after about a month if daily daily 2-3 hr sessions.

I wonder if Gary has made the switch? That would be dope. He’s read one of my comments once
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on April 24, 2022, 04:06:44 PM
5.6 polished with green bushings as the stock color.


(https://i.ibb.co/5LjbMpf/8-CFBB893-99-C9-4877-88-D1-438-A566-AFAB8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5LjbMpf)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 24, 2022, 06:40:40 PM
5.6 polished with green bushings as the stock color.


(https://i.ibb.co/5LjbMpf/8-CFBB893-99-C9-4877-88-D1-438-A566-AFAB8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5LjbMpf)


Nice!

Are they still the same as the older ones under the baseplate?

Curious if anything has changed there as well, the way Thunder has.

Not expecting it to, but sometimes these things happen.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 24, 2022, 07:51:49 PM
5.6 polished with green bushings as the stock color.


(https://i.ibb.co/5LjbMpf/8-CFBB893-99-C9-4877-88-D1-438-A566-AFAB8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5LjbMpf)


Luckily dog
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: brownjenkin on April 24, 2022, 09:00:48 PM
Skated my venture hollows now the 6th time - do they get loser after a few days or is it me?


Also I really need to skate another deck with them. My 8“ magenta right now does not feel right, maybe really because the tail is short. 6.3 or something like that

I can't for the life of me skate Ventures on a short and/or steep tail.

I definitely skate better on Indy nowadays, but still have to go back to Venture when I find an appropriate deck. That 90s nostalgia gets the better of me always.

I actually modded a mellow concave 8.125 Deathwish with that Chems Skate Lab tool and brought the wheelbase in from 14.25 to 13.875. Absolutely loved my cast Venture 5.6s on that setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mystical Leader on April 25, 2022, 12:32:03 AM
Anyone got board recommendations for casted 5.6 ventures?

I like the trucks but I haven't found a board that works. I had Palace 8.38 which was my go to on Ace 33s but it was old when I changed the trucks. Now I'm riding sci-fi fantasy 8.38 that I find to have way too much shape like too steep nose and tail and way too much concave for good measure.. I guess I need something that is flat as fuck, shorter wheelbase and big nose and tail but not steep..

ahh the gear madness.....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 25, 2022, 12:47:46 AM
Gx, quasi or wknd?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on April 25, 2022, 05:18:37 AM
Anyone got board recommendations for casted 5.6 ventures?

I like the trucks but I haven't found a board that works. I had Palace 8.38 which was my go to on Ace 33s but it was old when I changed the trucks. Now I'm riding sci-fi fantasy 8.38 that I find to have way too much shape like too steep nose and tail and way too much concave for good measure.. I guess I need something that is flat as fuck, shorter wheelbase and big nose and tail but not steep..

ahh the gear madness.....
Any Crailtap board.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nitro89 on April 25, 2022, 05:46:37 AM
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Anyone got board recommendations for casted 5.6 ventures?

I like the trucks but I haven't found a board that works. I had Palace 8.38 which was my go to on Ace 33s but it was old when I changed the trucks. Now I'm riding sci-fi fantasy 8.38 that I find to have way too much shape like too steep nose and tail and way too much concave for good measure.. I guess I need something that is flat as fuck, shorter wheelbase and big nose and tail but not steep..

ahh the gear madness.....
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Any Crailtap board.
any primitive deck (just spray over the graphics)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 25, 2022, 07:32:45 AM
Maybe controversial but I don’t think there are necessarily boards for certain trucks.

Look at DLX brands for example. Lots of Real dudes are on Thunders, lots of AH dudes ride Indy, Krooked dudes are on both Thunder and Venture and it’s all the same shapes. You have Bobby on a 14.4 with Ventures and Grant on 14.25-14.5 with Indy’s.

Girl has riders on Royal, which have an Indy-like WB, Indy, Thunder, and I can’t think of anyone at the moment that is on Venture there, but on Chocolate you have guys on Ace, Royal, Venture, Indy, and Thunder.

I dunno what Sci Fi you have but they are not necessarily mellower in the kicks than Crail. They’re generic BBS shapes whereas lots of Crail decks have lots of flat before kicks with similar steepness. That probably matters more than WB.

Sounds like the trucks actually aren’t working, which is fine. I like a lot of things about Ventures and often consider trying them again, but in the end after the honeymoon period is over they just don’t work as well for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on April 25, 2022, 08:15:32 AM
Anyone got board recommendations for casted 5.6 ventures?

I like the trucks but I haven't found a board that works. I had Palace 8.38 which was my go to on Ace 33s but it was old when I changed the trucks. Now I'm riding sci-fi fantasy 8.38 that I find to have way too much shape like too steep nose and tail and way too much concave for good measure.. I guess I need something that is flat as fuck, shorter wheelbase and big nose and tail but not steep..

ahh the gear madness.....

April 8.25 is the best board I've skated on Ventures.

It's not flat, but def mellow. Nose and tail are great.

Graphics are terrible tho
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 25, 2022, 08:51:09 AM
Maybe a bit controversial but I don’t think graphics really matter…..

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 25, 2022, 08:53:42 AM
Maybe a bit controversial but I don’t think graphics really matter…..


I dunno, I’ve got an April, and it’s a good board, but it feels so fucked to leave the house with it. (It also has long tail/nose, and maybe that’s the real reason I’m not as into it, but I’m saying it’s the fact that it’s an April)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mystical Leader on April 25, 2022, 10:22:42 AM
Maybe controversial but I don’t think there are necessarily boards for certain trucks.

Look at DLX brands for example. Lots of Real dudes are on Thunders, lots of AH dudes ride Indy, Krooked dudes are on both Thunder and Venture and it’s all the same shapes. You have Bobby on a 14.4 with Ventures and Grant on 14.25-14.5 with Indy’s.

Girl has riders on Royal, which have an Indy-like WB, Indy, Thunder, and I can’t think of anyone at the moment that is on Venture there, but on Chocolate you have guys on Ace, Royal, Venture, Indy, and Thunder.

I dunno what Sci Fi you have but they are not necessarily mellower in the kicks than Crail. They’re generic BBS shapes whereas lots of Crail decks have lots of flat before kicks with similar steepness. That probably matters more than WB.

Sounds like the trucks actually aren’t working, which is fine. I like a lot of things about Ventures and often consider trying them again, but in the end after the honeymoon period is over they just don’t work as well for me.

Thank you all for the recommendations!

I guess I'll have checkout crailtap or primitive then. Too bad graphics do matter to some degree.

The scifi  borad had generator sticker on it. It has a sick dinosaur graphic!

Of course everyone can ride whatever but it's about your preference. I'm kinda in into venture's thighter turn. Trend watch tight trucks 2023..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 25, 2022, 12:21:57 PM
On short wheelbase boards I really liked a girl G052 I had a last year… 8.25 with 14’WB. it had a big shovel nose which I love. My only pet peeve is that it tappers to like an 8.1 on the Tail, would prefer no tapper, but tbh barelly noticeable. 

I like FA/Hockey decks too, 8.25 with 14.12’WB but the kicks are quite steep, might not pair as good with Ventures but riding it atm and it feels good imo…

Other one I really liked last year was a Real, Mason’s shape, 8.28 with 14.12’WB. Mellower kicks than FA’s and not as “full”, but felt perfect from the get go.

Now I’m looking at this WKND 8.25 CT shape, which is 8.25 with a 14’WB, looks quite full too. I think I’m gonna pull the trigger on that one and see how it feels with the ventures!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on April 25, 2022, 12:27:12 PM
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Maybe controversial but I don’t think there are necessarily boards for certain trucks.

Look at DLX brands for example. Lots of Real dudes are on Thunders, lots of AH dudes ride Indy, Krooked dudes are on both Thunder and Venture and it’s all the same shapes. You have Bobby on a 14.4 with Ventures and Grant on 14.25-14.5 with Indy’s.

Girl has riders on Royal, which have an Indy-like WB, Indy, Thunder, and I can’t think of anyone at the moment that is on Venture there, but on Chocolate you have guys on Ace, Royal, Venture, Indy, and Thunder.

I dunno what Sci Fi you have but they are not necessarily mellower in the kicks than Crail. They’re generic BBS shapes whereas lots of Crail decks have lots of flat before kicks with similar steepness. That probably matters more than WB.

Sounds like the trucks actually aren’t working, which is fine. I like a lot of things about Ventures and often consider trying them again, but in the end after the honeymoon period is over they just don’t work as well for me.
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Thank you all for the recommendations!

I guess I'll have checkout crailtap or primitive then. Too bad graphics do matter to some degree.

The scifi  borad had generator sticker on it. It has a sick dinosaur graphic!

Of course everyone can ride whatever but it's about your preference. I'm kinda in into venture's thighter turn. Trend watch tight trucks 2023..

I can attest that Ventures pair quite nicely with crailtap and primitive boards (both cast and forged plates). I run cast exclusively now but I'm not as picky as I used to be when I first started riding Ventures in 2019. I used to only skate 14" wb with Ventures, but I feel like as long as you stay within range of your preferable dimensions, it's easy to get adjusted to the changes.

I skate standard BBS/generator 8" shapes (Baker, Frog, TKF, etc.) with 14.25" wb on Venture highs and I wouldn't say I have any major complaints. Anyone that is still iffy about Ventures, definitely try running the flat washer (helps a lot imo) to get a little bit more turn. If that doesn't fix it, go with softer duro bushing offerings from Deluxe (Supercush) or Indy aftermarkets (barrel bottom to maintain Venture geo). Or the new Venture green bushings that just came out which seems pretty sick. Bones bushings work too, but I think it changes the geo slightly
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 25, 2022, 03:12:02 PM
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Maybe controversial but I don’t think there are necessarily boards for certain trucks.

Look at DLX brands for example. Lots of Real dudes are on Thunders, lots of AH dudes ride Indy, Krooked dudes are on both Thunder and Venture and it’s all the same shapes. You have Bobby on a 14.4 with Ventures and Grant on 14.25-14.5 with Indy’s.

Girl has riders on Royal, which have an Indy-like WB, Indy, Thunder, and I can’t think of anyone at the moment that is on Venture there, but on Chocolate you have guys on Ace, Royal, Venture, Indy, and Thunder.

I dunno what Sci Fi you have but they are not necessarily mellower in the kicks than Crail. They’re generic BBS shapes whereas lots of Crail decks have lots of flat before kicks with similar steepness. That probably matters more than WB.

Sounds like the trucks actually aren’t working, which is fine. I like a lot of things about Ventures and often consider trying them again, but in the end after the honeymoon period is over they just don’t work as well for me.
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Thank you all for the recommendations!

I guess I'll have checkout crailtap or primitive then. Too bad graphics do matter to some degree.

The scifi  borad had generator sticker on it. It has a sick dinosaur graphic!

Of course everyone can ride whatever but it's about your preference. I'm kinda in into venture's thighter turn. Trend watch tight trucks 2023..

Uhhh what? You can get any truck tight that’s pretty damn easy just tighten the kingpin. I know a dude that is sponsored by Ace and has 2 threads showing and his trucks are definitely tighter turning and stable. If you like tight trucks just pick the best grinding truck, which likely isn’t a Venture. Krux would probably be a better bet
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 25, 2022, 03:38:36 PM
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Maybe controversial but I don’t think there are necessarily boards for certain trucks.

Look at DLX brands for example. Lots of Real dudes are on Thunders, lots of AH dudes ride Indy, Krooked dudes are on both Thunder and Venture and it’s all the same shapes. You have Bobby on a 14.4 with Ventures and Grant on 14.25-14.5 with Indy’s.

Girl has riders on Royal, which have an Indy-like WB, Indy, Thunder, and I can’t think of anyone at the moment that is on Venture there, but on Chocolate you have guys on Ace, Royal, Venture, Indy, and Thunder.

I dunno what Sci Fi you have but they are not necessarily mellower in the kicks than Crail. They’re generic BBS shapes whereas lots of Crail decks have lots of flat before kicks with similar steepness. That probably matters more than WB.

Sounds like the trucks actually aren’t working, which is fine. I like a lot of things about Ventures and often consider trying them again, but in the end after the honeymoon period is over they just don’t work as well for me.
[close]

Thank you all for the recommendations!

I guess I'll have checkout crailtap or primitive then. Too bad graphics do matter to some degree.

The scifi  borad had generator sticker on it. It has a sick dinosaur graphic!

Of course everyone can ride whatever but it's about your preference. I'm kinda in into venture's thighter turn. Trend watch tight trucks 2023..
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Uhhh what? You can get any truck tight that’s pretty damn easy just tighten the kingpin. I know a dude that is sponsored by Ace and has 2 threads showing and his trucks are definitely tighter turning and stable. If you like tight trucks just pick the best grinding truck, which likely isn’t a Venture. Krux would probably be a better bet

For someone that doesn’t like venture, you sure spend a lot of time in the venture thread
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 25, 2022, 04:03:58 PM
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Maybe controversial but I don’t think there are necessarily boards for certain trucks.

Look at DLX brands for example. Lots of Real dudes are on Thunders, lots of AH dudes ride Indy, Krooked dudes are on both Thunder and Venture and it’s all the same shapes. You have Bobby on a 14.4 with Ventures and Grant on 14.25-14.5 with Indy’s.

Girl has riders on Royal, which have an Indy-like WB, Indy, Thunder, and I can’t think of anyone at the moment that is on Venture there, but on Chocolate you have guys on Ace, Royal, Venture, Indy, and Thunder.

I dunno what Sci Fi you have but they are not necessarily mellower in the kicks than Crail. They’re generic BBS shapes whereas lots of Crail decks have lots of flat before kicks with similar steepness. That probably matters more than WB.

Sounds like the trucks actually aren’t working, which is fine. I like a lot of things about Ventures and often consider trying them again, but in the end after the honeymoon period is over they just don’t work as well for me.
[close]

Thank you all for the recommendations!

I guess I'll have checkout crailtap or primitive then. Too bad graphics do matter to some degree.

The scifi  borad had generator sticker on it. It has a sick dinosaur graphic!

Of course everyone can ride whatever but it's about your preference. I'm kinda in into venture's thighter turn. Trend watch tight trucks 2023..
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I can attest that Ventures pair quite nicely with crailtap and primitive boards (both cast and forged plates). I run cast exclusively now but I'm not as picky as I used to be when I first started riding Ventures in 2019. I used to only skate 14" wb with Ventures, but I feel like as long as you stay within range of your preferable dimensions, it's easy to get adjusted to the changes.

I skate standard BBS/generator 8" shapes (Baker, Frog, TKF, etc.) with 14.25" wb on Venture highs and I wouldn't say I have any major complaints. Anyone that is still iffy about Ventures, definitely try running the flat washer (helps a lot imo) to get a little bit more turn. If that doesn't fix it, go with softer duro bushing offerings from Deluxe (Supercush) or Indy aftermarkets (barrel bottom to maintain Venture geo). Or the new Venture green bushings that just came out which seems pretty sick. Bones bushings work too, but I think it changes the geo slightly

For me ventures turn more than I need.
Today was the day that I really got used to them after skating them maybe 6 times.
I thought it’s the short tail of my magenta 8“ deck that feels strange with ventures , but I was just not used to them after riding thunders and royals somehow. Struggled a bit with manuals and pop, but both are good now.


Still I want to try a longer tail with them. Will ride the real logo 8.12 next and after that an 8.25 alien.

Let’s see if it makes a difference to me. The alien also has a 14.25 wb.

I think I will just get used to anything honestly. I don’t believe .25 wb will bother me. Let’s see.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on April 25, 2022, 04:08:29 PM
You don’t buy Ventures if the only thing you do is cruise and carve around. They’re made to do tricks. Gonz rode them in the early 90s and it worked for him. Indy, Thunder, Venture aren’t that drastic of a difference that you can’t do the shit you normally do already but once you find the one that makes you think “Oh I could eventually learn (insert dream trick)” then you should stick with it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 25, 2022, 06:03:51 PM
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Maybe controversial but I don’t think there are necessarily boards for certain trucks.

Look at DLX brands for example. Lots of Real dudes are on Thunders, lots of AH dudes ride Indy, Krooked dudes are on both Thunder and Venture and it’s all the same shapes. You have Bobby on a 14.4 with Ventures and Grant on 14.25-14.5 with Indy’s.

Girl has riders on Royal, which have an Indy-like WB, Indy, Thunder, and I can’t think of anyone at the moment that is on Venture there, but on Chocolate you have guys on Ace, Royal, Venture, Indy, and Thunder.

I dunno what Sci Fi you have but they are not necessarily mellower in the kicks than Crail. They’re generic BBS shapes whereas lots of Crail decks have lots of flat before kicks with similar steepness. That probably matters more than WB.

Sounds like the trucks actually aren’t working, which is fine. I like a lot of things about Ventures and often consider trying them again, but in the end after the honeymoon period is over they just don’t work as well for me.
[close]

Thank you all for the recommendations!

I guess I'll have checkout crailtap or primitive then. Too bad graphics do matter to some degree.

The scifi  borad had generator sticker on it. It has a sick dinosaur graphic!

Of course everyone can ride whatever but it's about your preference. I'm kinda in into venture's thighter turn. Trend watch tight trucks 2023..
[close]

Uhhh what? You can get any truck tight that’s pretty damn easy just tighten the kingpin. I know a dude that is sponsored by Ace and has 2 threads showing and his trucks are definitely tighter turning and stable. If you like tight trucks just pick the best grinding truck, which likely isn’t a Venture. Krux would probably be a better bet
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For someone that doesn’t like venture, you sure spend a lot of time in the venture thread

I love reading about gear and generally, Ventures are actually great but I think a lot of people are forcing the relationship because of their current popularity.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 25, 2022, 06:08:04 PM
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Maybe controversial but I don’t think there are necessarily boards for certain trucks.

Look at DLX brands for example. Lots of Real dudes are on Thunders, lots of AH dudes ride Indy, Krooked dudes are on both Thunder and Venture and it’s all the same shapes. You have Bobby on a 14.4 with Ventures and Grant on 14.25-14.5 with Indy’s.

Girl has riders on Royal, which have an Indy-like WB, Indy, Thunder, and I can’t think of anyone at the moment that is on Venture there, but on Chocolate you have guys on Ace, Royal, Venture, Indy, and Thunder.

I dunno what Sci Fi you have but they are not necessarily mellower in the kicks than Crail. They’re generic BBS shapes whereas lots of Crail decks have lots of flat before kicks with similar steepness. That probably matters more than WB.

Sounds like the trucks actually aren’t working, which is fine. I like a lot of things about Ventures and often consider trying them again, but in the end after the honeymoon period is over they just don’t work as well for me.
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Thank you all for the recommendations!

I guess I'll have checkout crailtap or primitive then. Too bad graphics do matter to some degree.

The scifi  borad had generator sticker on it. It has a sick dinosaur graphic!

Of course everyone can ride whatever but it's about your preference. I'm kinda in into venture's thighter turn. Trend watch tight trucks 2023..
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Uhhh what? You can get any truck tight that’s pretty damn easy just tighten the kingpin. I know a dude that is sponsored by Ace and has 2 threads showing and his trucks are definitely tighter turning and stable. If you like tight trucks just pick the best grinding truck, which likely isn’t a Venture. Krux would probably be a better bet
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For someone that doesn’t like venture, you sure spend a lot of time in the venture thread
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I love reading about gear and generally, Ventures are actually great but I think a lot of people are forcing the relationship because of their current popularity.

You might be onto something there
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 25, 2022, 06:33:31 PM
Ya so the above poster was forcing the relationship but then says they like tight trucks. Ventures have a lower turning radius, but are not tight on center. They can be tightened to be tight, but you can make other trucks tight just fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mystical Leader on April 26, 2022, 12:48:06 AM
I heard this hot take at local skate shop. Loose trucks are for babies and once you have enough control you should tighten your trucks. I suppose it's because when you get better the less you need to adjust your landings.. Venture is the tight truck tho.

Of course there has been a huge marketing push by Venture to make them trendy. It's hard not see it. For me Venture was last of the big 3/4 I had not tested and also I'm a trendy bitch..

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nitro89 on April 26, 2022, 02:52:58 AM
Maybe a bit controversial but I don’t think graphics really matter…..

I agree and that's true to a point as they do just get scratched up after the first session.

There's just something about getting a board in the size that works for you that's also aesthetically pleasing, rather than a blank or some half baked graphic that someone's pulled out there arse on photoshop or illustrator etc. while high thinking to themselves about how there college tuition has paid off and how great there board designs look.

I miss all the hand drawn stuff, the smell of paint from the screened boards when you went into a shop.
there's too many basic computer generated graphics/transfers around these days imo.
 
(I understand why that is because from the business standpoint they are able to knock out more in the manufacturing runs as well as the cost difference between the two but it is a shame.)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on April 26, 2022, 09:42:17 AM
I heard this hot take at local skate shop. Loose trucks are for babies and once you have enough control you should tighten your trucks. I suppose it's because when you get better the less you need to adjust your landings.. Venture is the tight truck tho.

Of course there has been a huge marketing push by Venture to make them trendy. It's hard not see it. For me Venture was last of the big 3/4 I had not tested and also I'm a trendy bitch..

Potentially one of the hottest takes. I don't think everyone should be riding loose trucks, but suggesting that you should learn loose and tighten as you get better doesn't make much sense to me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 26, 2022, 10:19:15 AM
Ya graphics don’t make your tricks better, but to me they’re fun and a source of pride for a brand. It shows effort and allows for additional artistic expression even if it’s transient. When I look at brands like Pizza to me it seems like they don’t care about what they are putting out there.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DarkPools on April 26, 2022, 02:57:08 PM
Ya graphics don’t make your tricks better, but to me they’re fun and a source of pride for a brand. It shows effort and allows for additional artistic expression even if it’s transient. When I look at brands like Pizza to me it seems like they don’t care about what they are putting out there.

And that makes me care about them even less! Haha!
I'm not their target audience then?

Sure, aesthetic and imagery have superficial elements to them, but I prefer connecting with a brand that puts out graphics they're stoked on and that people are stoked on.

Some of the more prominent graphics I've enjoyed over the years helped me remember more about my sessions, my friends, progression, etc. at that time. Triggers for photographic memory, basically. I cherish that!

Blank after blank (with no custom designs or stickers) across months and years would blend skate memories together for me.. :/ Same with trucks, but to a lesser degree. I enjoy Venture's bold branding on some of their models. It's made me consider them seriously for the first time ever. I've never skated Venture before in my 16 years of skating (I don't count trying a couple tricks on a friend's board) and I have a set of polished 5.8's on their way to me :D

Humans crave dopamine through a variety of avenues and if board graphics are another source for that, count me in, too!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on April 26, 2022, 03:57:43 PM
What harder bushings are people replacing venture bushings with? I’m around 210lbs and stock bushings are fine as I usually like a little looser but I want to try a bit harder bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 26, 2022, 04:31:10 PM
What harder bushings are people replacing venture bushings with? I’m around 210lbs and stock bushings are fine as I usually like a little looser but I want to try a bit harder bushings.

Blue indy aftermarkets (with the barrel bottoms) worked well for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 26, 2022, 04:32:41 PM
supercush 94a would be your best bet
im running the 97a with shorter kingpin nuts, really good shit
if you can spend on those id go with 97s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on April 28, 2022, 08:36:47 AM
I heard this hot take at local skate shop. Loose trucks are for babies and once you have enough control you should tighten your trucks. I suppose it's because when you get better the less you need to adjust your landings.. Venture is the tight truck tho.

Of course there has been a huge marketing push by Venture to make them trendy. It's hard not see it. For me Venture was last of the big 3/4 I had not tested and also I'm a trendy bitch..

Indy/Ace fans punching the air right now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 28, 2022, 01:31:56 PM
Rodney engineered Tensors not to turn, you only want wiggle to regain your balance…..

Ventures limited turn has turned me into a looser truck guy……
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 28, 2022, 10:20:17 PM
Another set of stock bushings started cracking. So got some clear supercush 88as. Hate the green 94as. But these feel perfect out the box. Would have probably gotten the orange 90a ones as I feel that harder bushings last longer than softer ones but didn't want my ventures looking like indys. Hopefully they don't feel looser over time, but firm up, so I won't have to crank them down and have threads showing.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 29, 2022, 10:07:40 AM
Anyone got board recommendations for casted 5.6 ventures?

I like the trucks but I haven't found a board that works. I had Palace 8.38 which was my go to on Ace 33s but it was old when I changed the trucks. Now I'm riding sci-fi fantasy 8.38 that I find to have way too much shape like too steep nose and tail and way too much concave for good measure.. I guess I need something that is flat as fuck, shorter wheelbase and big nose and tail but not steep..

ahh the gear madness.....

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb1IwTtMPcT/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

The pop master M1 shape is the move. I haven’t tried the recycle boards yet.

The shape is kinda unique the rails are really straight up to the wheels. Nose and tail are round but appear pointy taper. They remind me of Chapman.

Then as a second I’d say the Malto shape I think it go58 or something.

I skated tons of Clutch wood. It’s not my favorite but it’s close.

Also reminds me of Chapman.

In reality there’s nothing better than an old Chapman blank with tri colur veneers. Anyone remember those blank’s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 29, 2022, 10:28:15 AM
Is something wrong with my ventures? Today my front truck did 3 times losen up that much that the truck was just wobbling around when shaking my board. Tightened it up and shortly later again.
I would say I usually tighten them up to -1 threat.

Almost got killed when I was skating a London gap and this happened.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 29, 2022, 10:29:45 AM
On short wheelbase boards I really liked a girl G052 I had a last year… 8.25 with 14’WB. it had a big shovel nose which I love. My only pet peeve is that it tappers to like an 8.1 on the Tail, would prefer no tapper, but tbh barelly noticeable. 

I like FA/Hockey decks too, 8.25 with 14.12’WB but the kicks are quite steep, might not pair as good with Ventures but riding it atm and it feels good imo…

other one I really liked last year was a Real, Mason’s shape, 8.28 with 14.12’WB. Mellower kicks than FA’s and not as “full”, but felt perfect from the get go.

Now I’m looking at this WKND 8.25 CT shape, which is 8.25 with a 14’WB, looks quite full too. I think I’m gonna pull the trigger on that one and see how it feels with the ventures!

I always forget about this shape. I’ve had two during Covid. It’s definitely a great mix with ventures and ace.

I’m not 100 but I think I have a third rn. It might be 8.25 tho. Has the worst hero graphic ever tho.
“pumping feathers” graphic.

I never usually give a shit about graphics. This one is particularly wack and I put it on ice after a few hrs.

I’ve had bad bad luck with my last 2 18.

I got a defective cards cowboy. I was so bummed because cards is the hero. There’s never been a style like that and no one’s ever going to match it.

I hit up dlx because I was so bummed. Reed hooked it up I said send me anything between 8 and 8.5.

I got a grimple 8.28. I was tripping. I thought this shape was extinct. I did like two Ollie’s and pow! The nose broke off.
I wanted to cry. I wanna cry rn.

I kept it in the box I look at it sometimes  because it’s a fire graphic. Grimple as a brand has that Cardiel. There’s been nothing like it and afterwards there won’t be another.

I got the pumpin feathers next an I hate the graphic. The boards dope though. Skates hella good with ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 29, 2022, 10:34:29 AM
Is something wrong with my ventures? Today my front truck did 3 times losen up that much that the truck was just wobbling around when shaking my board. Tightened it up and shortly later again.
I would say I usually tighten them up to -1 threat.

Almost got killed when I was skating a London gap and this happened.

Check the nylon lock in the nut.

When this has happened to me I’d just take off my top bushings and thread the nut all the way on a few times.

Put the trucks back together with the WELL threaded nut upside down. (Nylon down)

Then you can have no thread showing if you like so long as the metal is touching the metal

You can also just get a tube of nylon lock or a new nut.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on April 29, 2022, 10:36:44 AM
Is something wrong with my ventures? Today my front truck did 3 times losen up that much that the truck was just wobbling around when shaking my board. Tightened it up and shortly later again.
I would say I usually tighten them up to -1 threat.

Almost got killed when I was skating a London gap and this happened.

I had this happening on my Ace classics a while ago. Krazy glued the nut and it didn't happen again after that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 29, 2022, 10:38:59 AM
Thx, will try a new nut. So it’s not that i usually can’t skate them -1 threat tight, right?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on April 29, 2022, 10:48:23 AM
Thx, will try a new nut. So it’s not that i usually can’t skate them -1 threat tight, right?

Nah, as long as some threads are in the nylon lock it should be fine usually. Your nylon might have got damaged somehow or something. A new nut should fix that right away, or like I said, some krazy glue, but then as soon as you play with them once the glue is set in it's not gonna do anything, so if you go the krazy glue route, don't loosen/tighten them after.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 29, 2022, 10:50:06 AM
I’ll get a new nut, thx. Thought I need to get new trucks. Thankfully not
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fooj on April 29, 2022, 02:17:44 PM
Anyone got board recommendations for casted 5.6 ventures?

I like the trucks but I haven't found a board that works. I had Palace 8.38 which was my go to on Ace 33s but it was old when I changed the trucks. Now I'm riding sci-fi fantasy 8.38 that I find to have way too much shape like too steep nose and tail and way too much concave for good measure.. I guess I need something that is flat as fuck, shorter wheelbase and big nose and tail but not steep..

ahh the gear madness.....

I always harp on this shape but April 8.25 is everything you’re looking for. It’s amazing on cast highs, full kicks, mellow concave, long mellow nose and tail
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 30, 2022, 04:26:44 AM
How lose can I make ventures without the nut going loser or falling of on its own?

I‘m a bit traumatized now, when I think about going full speed for tricks over a London gap and almost killing myself cause the truck falls of , which almost happened yesterday to me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 30, 2022, 04:43:43 AM
How lose can I make ventures without the nut going loser or falling of on its own?

I‘m a bit traumatized now, when I think about going full speed for tricks over a London gap and almost killing myself cause the truck falls of , which almost happened yesterday to me.


Cut down the top bushing, or buy the new low top bushing set would be the easiest thing to do.

I have been cutting the top bushing down for a long time on a lot of setups, for myself and for many others and it works really well.

About 1 mm would do nicely.  You can also sand it down on grip scraps or even on your grip of your current setup, but when you cut it off, if you don't like it, you can always put the piece back in as it was.


Sent you a post about it anyway.


As per someone else from the Instagram post about it, here is the Venture catalog pic as well.

The lower head bushing still fits well under the normal / stock washer without it digging into the hanger, from what I saw and tested of it the other day on a set of Ventures when I measured the height of the lower top bushing against some I had cut down previously.

There are some significantly deeper top washers around though, from other brands or after market products, so if you did end up with a deeper top washer for whatever reason, I would suggest trying to locate a not so deep one or as said, use a flat top washer if you are really worried about it.


Original top bushings are between 9 and 10 mm tall (this one converting to about 9.5mm from the pic), with this low one being 8 mm tall, so only 1.5 difference.  I had some down to about 5 mm and there definitely was some washer catch marks on the hanger, but mostly the 8 mm height would not have any issues.

As to how much difference it makes - quite simply, a lot.  If you have the kingpin nut at the same or flush with the top it is very noticeable from uncut to cut, so you can take the kingpin nut down lower, also giving you more clearance as well as having a looser truck, or tighten it down a bit more and angle grind off the top of the kingpin to have a lot more clearance.


https://venturetrucks.net/


(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring22/10-ve-loose-trucks-conversion-kit.jpg)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 30, 2022, 06:56:47 AM
Again, you’re going to want a flat top washer. The stock washer already digs into the hanger if you run it loose and these will make it dig more. The flat washer gives you more end of range turn as well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 30, 2022, 07:40:03 AM
Will try the washer and if this is not working I’ll cut them smaller!

Thanks!


Could they eventually be skated without topwasher?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on April 30, 2022, 08:03:45 AM
Will try the washer and if this is not working I’ll cut them smaller!

Thanks!


Could they eventually be skated without topwasher?

you could, but i'm not sure you'd find much difference between non washer and a flat tbh other than maybe trashing bushings faster. i'm willing to be corrected on this though, i know bottom bushing suffers the same if you run no washer

edit: this came off harsher than intended tbh so i deleted - sorry about that, there's a lot of good info here to try so good luck out there and be sure to report back with what's been working

double edit: i haven't seen the new bushings at all, anyone else had any luck yet?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 30, 2022, 08:27:56 AM
Isn’t it an idea to get conical bushings too?  It doesn’t bring down the height, but definitely makes trucks turn more. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 30, 2022, 09:45:33 AM
Isn’t it an idea to get conical bushings too?  It doesn’t bring down the height, but definitely makes trucks turn more.

This.
I think this is a contributing factor to why people like bones in ventures so much, the conical boardside bushing offers much less resistance to turning (less stability).
Fuck now I want to get some 5.8s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: layzieyez on April 30, 2022, 11:57:59 AM
I started to skate ventures for more stability and less turn.

I'm skating both the high and lows on two different 8" setups so I can flip and skate switch. I have them at medium compared to my other setups which are pretty loose.

It feels like the setup I would skate in my 20's when I was my most tech when I rode almost nothing but raw street and didn't ride ramps/bowls. Quite refreshing to be honest and a lot of my pop is coming back because my board doesn't feel squirrelly under my feet when I'm setting up.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 30, 2022, 12:01:25 PM
I started to skate ventures for more stability and less turn.

I'm skating both the high and lows on two different 8" setups so I can flip and skate switch. I have them at medium compared to my other setups which are pretty loose.

It feels like the setup I would skate in my 20's when I was my most tech when I rode almost nothing but raw street and didn't ride ramps/bowls. Quite refreshing to be honest and a lot of my pop is coming back because my board doesn't feel squirrelly under my feet when I'm setting up.

I love the pop I get with ventures. Maybe it’s as you say, the stability right before the pop.
Some folks claim ace is stable on center, I get too squirrelly and then lose pop with them.
Anything to get the pop back
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on April 30, 2022, 12:40:42 PM
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Anyone got board recommendations for casted 5.6 ventures?

I like the trucks but I haven't found a board that works. I had Palace 8.38 which was my go to on Ace 33s but it was old when I changed the trucks. Now I'm riding sci-fi fantasy 8.38 that I find to have way too much shape like too steep nose and tail and way too much concave for good measure.. I guess I need something that is flat as fuck, shorter wheelbase and big nose and tail but not steep..

ahh the gear madness.....
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I always harp on this shape but April 8.25 is everything you’re looking for. It’s amazing on cast highs, full kicks, mellow concave, long mellow nose and tail

I need to try one of these. Anyone run it on forged highs? Not much difference I would guess?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on April 30, 2022, 02:52:56 PM
I started to skate ventures for more stability and less turn.

I'm skating both the high and lows on two different 8" setups so I can flip and skate switch. I have them at medium compared to my other setups which are pretty loose.

It feels like the setup I would skate in my 20's when I was my most tech when I rode almost nothing but raw street and didn't ride ramps/bowls. Quite refreshing to be honest and a lot of my pop is coming back because my board doesn't feel squirrelly under my feet when I'm setting up.

i'm curious - when you say medium what does that translate to in "threads showing" for you?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: layzieyez on April 30, 2022, 04:01:57 PM
My lows are showing maybe 1 and half in front and almost 2 in back. Sleeved flat washer top mod.

The highs have the green supercush bushings 94a and are barely in the nylock on some inverted grindking AXL pins with sleeved flat washers on top and bottom. Blue loctite.

Nowhere near tight, but the geometry makes this feel considerably stable compared to my royals, aces, and indys.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on April 30, 2022, 05:33:38 PM
My lows are showing maybe 1 and half in front and almost 2 in back. Sleeved flat washer top mod.

The highs have the green supercush bushings 94a and are barely in the nylock on some inverted grindking AXL pins with sleeved flat washers on top and bottom. Blue loctite.

Nowhere near tight, but the geometry makes this feel considerably stable compared to my royals, aces, and indys.

gracias, that sounds about what i've found to be medium as well for lows and that's how i had the 94a's in when i had them. always nice to find some sort of confirmation to ease madness
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: layzieyez on April 30, 2022, 06:11:36 PM
No problem.

I'm just happy to have my board popping like it used to before the pandemic began. Since I'm turning 48 in July, I didn't want to accept that my hops had permanently left me prematurely without putting up a fight. It's good to know that my legs aren't to blame yet.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 30, 2022, 08:53:27 PM
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Will try the washer and if this is not working I’ll cut them smaller!

Thanks!


Could they eventually be skated without topwasher?
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you could, but i'm not sure you'd find much difference between non washer and a flat tbh other than maybe trashing bushings faster. i'm willing to be corrected on this though, i know bottom bushing suffers the same if you run no washer

edit: this came off harsher than intended tbh so i deleted - sorry about that, there's a lot of good info here to try so good luck out there and be sure to report back with what's been working

double edit: i haven't seen the new bushings at all, anyone else had any luck yet?


I definitely would not ride a board without both washers, but I know some people do.  They often have issues and blow out bushings too from what I have seen, but that is their thing.


As to where these new Venture bushings are, the reply on the Venture Instagram post was that they are headed to shops now, so some places might already have them in stock in USA, but I know they said it will be a while before they are here in Australia, or other places round the world.

The Indy low top after market bushings that I use in pretty much all my normal setups with Indy trucks are still around, but very hard to get, but almost any normal bushing can be cut down, especially all the stock and aftermarket bushings from these brands.  I have never tried to cut Bones bushings down, but I have seen it done and it worked for them.

Even though I enjoy mixing and matching, I like to keep Indy bushings in Indy trucks, Venture bushings in Venture trucks, Thunder stock, Ace stock, etc.  Might be weird, but I do find they all work well.  More so just when people blow out bushings, or in particular when really light weight people need an extra bit of turn, or well used trucks need lower tops, to have better kingpin clearance, that is when it really comes into play, with cutting down tops for me.

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The number of times I have read back over something I have written and thought that might sound a bit mean, nasty or harsh, then added a disclaimer to it, then often been told it is ok, but I get what you mean though.  It is hard to convey things on here sometimes without it coming across a certain way.

At the end of the day, many of the things said on here are subjective or even valid from a certain point of view, so I would never be so quick to put anyone down as my own experiences can easily differ from other people in the use and wear of exactly the same product.

I guess too, when people come on here asking for info or advice or even just sounding out their thoughts, the last thing I would want to do is put them down or do anything other than offer my own thoughts and experiences, but I always try to do it in such a way as to keep it neutral, more so than anything else.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fooj on April 30, 2022, 11:17:06 PM
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Anyone got board recommendations for casted 5.6 ventures?

I like the trucks but I haven't found a board that works. I had Palace 8.38 which was my go to on Ace 33s but it was old when I changed the trucks. Now I'm riding sci-fi fantasy 8.38 that I find to have way too much shape like too steep nose and tail and way too much concave for good measure.. I guess I need something that is flat as fuck, shorter wheelbase and big nose and tail but not steep..

ahh the gear madness.....
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I always harp on this shape but April 8.25 is everything you’re looking for. It’s amazing on cast highs, full kicks, mellow concave, long mellow nose and tail
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I need to try one of these. Anyone run it on forged highs? Not much difference I would guess?

Haven't tried forged yet but im sure they'd be fine.  I just know don't go as low as thunder cast or the pop will feel dead.  The tails so long this shape that theres 0% chance of ghost pop on cast highs unless you go 55mm+.  I usually skate 52s, but can go up to 54 without the pop feeling different.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 30, 2022, 11:23:16 PM
I came off of team thunders and got cast hi’s……I think it’s a good height….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 01, 2022, 02:29:48 AM
Any idea when the bushings will be available ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 01, 2022, 03:51:38 AM
Any idea when the bushings will be available ?

Might have been a bit too much in the last post but this is from the middle of that text:


As to where these new Venture bushings are, the reply on the Venture Instagram post was that they are headed to shops now, so some places might already have them in stock in USA, but I know they said it will be a while before they are here in Australia, or other places round the world.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 01, 2022, 03:57:53 AM
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Any idea when the bushings will be available ?
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Might have been a bit too much in the last post but this is from the middle of that text:


As to where these new Venture bushings are, the reply on the Venture Instagram post was that they are headed to shops now, so some places might already have them in stock in USA, but I know they said it will be a while before they are here in Australia, or other places round the world.

Thx. I think I will just cut mine down a bit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Royalty on May 01, 2022, 04:58:02 AM
Any idea when the bushings will be available ?

SoCal skateshop has them online! I ordered a pair a couple days ago and got them yesterday, that green is gorgeous. Haven’t had the chance to set them up, but have been rocking a flat top washer on some 5.6 v hollows and loving every second of it. Directiveskateshop.com has them too. Haven’t seen any pop up at any local shops here in SoCal.

Edit: looks like SoCal is sold out, but directive still has them. https://www.directiveboardshop.com/products/venture-loose-trucks-bushing-conversion-kit-green
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on May 01, 2022, 07:30:57 AM
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Any idea when the bushings will be available ?
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SoCal skateshop has them online! I ordered a pair a couple days ago and got them yesterday, that green is gorgeous. Haven’t had the chance to set them up, but have been rocking a flat top washer on some 5.6 v hollows and loving every second of it. Directiveskateshop.com has them too. Haven’t seen any pop up at any local shops here in SoCal.

Edit: looks like SoCal is sold out, but directive still has them. https://www.directiveboardshop.com/products/venture-loose-trucks-bushing-conversion-kit-green

Thanks! I’m in Europe though. I hope shops here will have them soon
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on May 02, 2022, 03:08:47 PM
What do you guys think the draw backs are from ventures lo vs venture hi?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on May 02, 2022, 03:37:11 PM
What do you guys think the draw backs are from ventures lo vs venture hi?
lo- not so good for all terrain options for wheels limited unless you get risers which why would you.
High- pretty big difference in height from the lo, not super light.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on May 02, 2022, 03:45:17 PM
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What do you guys think the draw backs are from ventures lo vs venture hi?
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lo- not so good for all terrain options for wheels limited unless you get risers which why would you.
High- pretty big difference in height from the lo, not super light.
Fun fact, the lows actually weigh the same as the highs. The highs are even 1-3 grams lighter. No idea why, but at least the weight isn't something to worry about.
What needs to be mentioned is kingpin clearance. There's zero on lows and more than you'll ever need on highs.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on May 02, 2022, 03:52:14 PM
What do you guys think the draw backs are from ventures lo vs venture hi?

the biggest two differences for me were mentioned but between lo and kingpin clearance and the lo's really aren't all terrain enough for me. i can run them with 54's at max wheel size and suffer through the wheelbite, but even then there's other things that i know will go smoother with hi's


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Will try the washer and if this is not working I’ll cut them smaller!

Thanks!


Could they eventually be skated without topwasher?
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you could, but i'm not sure you'd find much difference between non washer and a flat tbh other than maybe trashing bushings faster. i'm willing to be corrected on this though, i know bottom bushing suffers the same if you run no washer

edit: this came off harsher than intended tbh so i deleted - sorry about that, there's a lot of good info here to try so good luck out there and be sure to report back with what's been working

double edit: i haven't seen the new bushings at all, anyone else had any luck yet?
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I definitely would not ride a board without both washers, but I know some people do.  They often have issues and blow out bushings too from what I have seen, but that is their thing.


As to where these new Venture bushings are, the reply on the Venture Instagram post was that they are headed to shops now, so some places might already have them in stock in USA, but I know they said it will be a while before they are here in Australia, or other places round the world.

The Indy low top after market bushings that I use in pretty much all my normal setups with Indy trucks are still around, but very hard to get, but almost any normal bushing can be cut down, especially all the stock and aftermarket bushings from these brands.  I have never tried to cut Bones bushings down, but I have seen it done and it worked for them.

Even though I enjoy mixing and matching, I like to keep Indy bushings in Indy trucks, Venture bushings in Venture trucks, Thunder stock, Ace stock, etc.  Might be weird, but I do find they all work well.  More so just when people blow out bushings, or in particular when really light weight people need an extra bit of turn, or well used trucks need lower tops, to have better kingpin clearance, that is when it really comes into play, with cutting down tops for me.

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The number of times I have read back over something I have written and thought that might sound a bit mean, nasty or harsh, then added a disclaimer to it, then often been told it is ok, but I get what you mean though.  It is hard to convey things on here sometimes without it coming across a certain way.

At the end of the day, many of the things said on here are subjective or even valid from a certain point of view, so I would never be so quick to put anyone down as my own experiences can easily differ from other people in the use and wear of exactly the same product.

I guess too, when people come on here asking for info or advice or even just sounding out their thoughts, the last thing I would want to do is put them down or do anything other than offer my own thoughts and experiences, but I always try to do it in such a way as to keep it neutral, more so than anything else.
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ty dude 🙏
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nekro on May 03, 2022, 02:59:08 AM
I have a pair of Venture hollow lights and I ride with my trucks quite tight, I've added Indy super hard bushings. 
Problem is because of the angle of the kingpin to the hanger both my Unit tool and my Silver tool do not fit the kingpin bolt.
Is there another skate tool that fits?  I don't want to have to carry around a skate tool and another wrench.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: timv on May 03, 2022, 05:59:44 AM
I have an older spitfire skate tool that fits my ventures good.  It works for kingpin and hardware because it is all metal with thinner sidewalls.
I’m not even sure it made anymore.  I found it left behind at a skatepark in Utah….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: timv on May 03, 2022, 06:01:15 AM
Just looked. The spitfire tool is still available.
https://www.amazon.com/Spitfire-Wheels-T3-Skateboard-Tool/dp/B003IM1TO8
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 03, 2022, 06:26:23 AM
The Ace tool also fits and is a great tool in general.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ol Nick on May 03, 2022, 07:47:05 AM
It’s worth mentioning that sometimes just pushing the side of the hanger that’s binding on the tool down toward the deck will free it up. If you can stand to loosen the kingpin nut a little while putting them on, it makes things easier as well. Maybe this is obvious to everyone else but I can recall plenty of times I was struggling to get a stuck tool off the nut that it took me way too long to remember this.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on May 04, 2022, 05:32:07 PM
Stock top bushing vs Loose top bushing

(https://i.imgur.com/w13F2ZA.jpg)

Makes a huge difference in how much you need to tighten down the kingpin nut to make them feel stock
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on May 04, 2022, 05:39:16 PM
Stock top bushing vs Loose top bushing

(https://i.imgur.com/w13F2ZA.jpg)

Makes a huge difference in how much you need to tighten down the kingpin nut to make them feel stock

ahhh ty so much! how far DO you have to go to feel stock? i can't even picture it honestly

oh and do they feel any better than the stock in hand? curious if they end up being a little different quality in the long run
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on May 04, 2022, 05:59:14 PM
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Stock top bushing vs Loose top bushing

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Makes a huge difference in how much you need to tighten down the kingpin nut to make them feel stock
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ahhh ty so much! how far DO you have to go to feel stock? i can't even picture it honestly

oh and do they feel any better than the stock in hand? curious if they end up being a little different quality in the long run

For the stock, I get resistance when tightening down the nut right before the nylon engages with the thread. With the loose, there's about one and a half threads showing before I start getting resistance.

They feel same when I hold them, but I haven't gotten a chance to skate them yet.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oak leaf on May 04, 2022, 06:55:31 PM
Wouldn't the smaller bushings make the trucks have a shorter wheelbase/lower truck (idk)? This might make manuals and turning feel different compared to stock.

I think only the roadside bushing is shorter so it shouldnt change the geo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ferraveemo on May 04, 2022, 07:21:42 PM
Stock top bushing vs Loose top bushing

(https://i.imgur.com/w13F2ZA.jpg)

Makes a huge difference in how much you need to tighten down the kingpin nut to make them feel stock

I just tried this out this past weekend cause my local had them just around the time I needed new bushings and I’ve been eager to try it out. That amount of height they took off is a little too much I think. I don’t like having the kingpin stick out more than half a thread. Flush is king but with these on flush feels like Matt Rodriguez loose. It might also been the truck combo I had it on. I had a forged-hollow baseplate on a standard 6.1 hanger w/ top and bottom washers on. Even with the stock bushings on it was more a controllable loose but the green conversions is way too loose and still with 3 threads out w/ fair jiggly haha!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 04, 2022, 08:16:11 PM
well they arent designed to be run with threads showing
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 05, 2022, 07:39:20 PM
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Stock top bushing vs Loose top bushing

(https://i.imgur.com/w13F2ZA.jpg)

Makes a huge difference in how much you need to tighten down the kingpin nut to make them feel stock
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I just tried this out this past weekend cause my local had them just around the time I needed new bushings and I’ve been eager to try it out. That amount of height they took off is a little too much I think. I don’t like having the kingpin stick out more than half a thread. Flush is king but with these on flush feels like Matt Rodriguez loose. It might also been the truck combo I had it on. I had a forged-hollow baseplate on a standard 6.1 hanger w/ top and bottom washers on. Even with the stock bushings on it was more a controllable loose but the green conversions is way too loose and still with 3 threads out w/ fair jiggly haha!



For anyone who has any brand of trucks that are well used or have issues with the kingpin hitting on grinds or anything else, these are an answer to that as well.

Using the bushings as normal, having the low tops set up to where you want the truck, not just where the nut usually sits on the kingpin (on average 2 to 3 threads lower), then grinding down the kingpin with an angle grinder or any other way will increase the clearance on the kingpin considerably while still allowing the truck to do what it normally does, as the bottom bushing is still the same.

I am not saying this is the answer to everything, but it is another use for these lower top bushings and saves having to cut down regular bushings to make trucks more manageable for those who need them loose or just want to have more kingpin clearance.


At least it gives more options too, as there are a significant number of people I know and skate with, not just super light weight kids, who have the kingpin nut barely on, which is an issue both for clearance and the possibility of the nut falling off as they can't get their trucks loose enough.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 05, 2022, 10:19:52 PM
Bushings should be smaller across all trucks. That ace classic one was ridiculous. I swapped that one out immediately.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: in love w/ fs shuvs on May 06, 2022, 12:10:43 AM
when is it time to switch bushings? my trucks actually feel kinda good rn but the bushings sorta shredded.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cosmicgypsies on May 06, 2022, 01:10:35 AM
anyone got any idea if/when that low bushing kit will make it's way to the UK?  :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on May 06, 2022, 12:59:14 PM
when is it time to switch bushings? my trucks actually feel kinda good rn but the bushings sorta shredded.

When it’s not feeling good anymore.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fooj on May 06, 2022, 02:06:31 PM
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When it’s not feeling good anymore.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 06, 2022, 04:42:24 PM
well they arent designed to be run with threads showing

It always amazes me that people don't get this.

It's what harder bushings are for.

One of the combos I've used was the ACE low top and a bones medium bottom (second best was 96a indy tops bone med bottom).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on May 07, 2022, 12:59:31 PM
What's the problem with having threads showing though? I don't like the look of it either, but is there any real negative performance impact? On smith grinds you're probably still hitting the nut and not the kingpin itself with a few threads showing, right?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 07, 2022, 01:17:12 PM
I do wonder if a compressed 90a bushing has different rebound kinetics than a less compressed bushing of a harder duro. It’s already storing energy from higher compression.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 07, 2022, 07:18:36 PM
My local  don’t got the new bushings. I feel like they might not get them too soon. They got mad aftermarket stuff for other trucks rn. Their premium components packages comes with ventures tho. That’s dope. The serious first time skater will be more likely to go for the dope shit.

Anyway what shop should I order these from?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ferraveemo on May 07, 2022, 07:59:24 PM
What's the problem with having threads showing though? I don't like the look of it either, but is there any real negative performance impact? On smith grinds you're probably still hitting the nut and not the kingpin itself with a few threads showing, right?

Other than personal preference…If I decided not to crank them down to 3 threads showing. They would be really unstable. I’m talking shackle loose, it would also shred the bushings. Idk if I got an even shorter bushing from the batch. There’s a good amount of space even at a thread and half. I did see someone on the set-up thread w/ the standard baseplate and he had a thread and half. I would also like to keep my forged hollow baseplate from being grounded down.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on May 07, 2022, 11:22:21 PM
Loose trucks save lives bro…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cosmicgypsies on May 08, 2022, 01:06:41 AM
Someone was posting on here about wheel well boards and how they pair with ventures, can't find the original post so I'll just post here instead.

I'm skating 5.6 ventures, white thunder bottoms, bones soft tops with flat washers (odd config I know) with some probably 52/53mm wheels on an 8.5 polar with wells. Had the first skate on it yesterday and the wells definitely help out with wheelbite a fair bit, I was getting away with some shitty landings that'd normally throw me off, carving seems somewhat better too.

Looking at the marks on the underside, it's still been biting a little bit on the outskirts of where the wells actually are. Could be that the wells are designed for trucks with a smaller wb, or the fact i'm running trucks slightly shorter than the board. Overall though I'm very pleased with it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bunk Moreland on May 08, 2022, 11:23:03 AM
Tight ventures are the only ventures. You guys are trying to make them something they aren’t.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CaderSk8r on May 08, 2022, 11:33:02 AM
Tight ventures are the only ventures. You guys are trying to make them something they aren’t.

Tell that to Yaje Popson lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bunk Moreland on May 08, 2022, 11:50:35 AM
Nobody gives a fuck about Yaje Popson.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 08, 2022, 12:43:04 PM
Nobody gives a fuck about Yaje Popson.


Ha. True.
I like that he’s a weirdo, and he can have some interesting skating for sure. There is definitely something there.
On the other hand: white griptape and jogger sweats, and fully extinguished cigs before popping any/every trick
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Jonny7.5Alive on May 08, 2022, 03:49:27 PM
Tight ventures are the only ventures. You guys are trying to make them something they aren’t.

This
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 08, 2022, 03:51:22 PM
Tight ventures are the only ventures. You guys are trying to make them something they aren’t.
venture branded "loose trucks conversion kit"
"you guys"
???
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bunk Moreland on May 08, 2022, 04:22:05 PM
Yes, YOU GUYS. There’s 97 pages of motherfuckers whining about wheelbase, washers, bushings, leaning, and not being able to use a skate tool. Maybe ventures aren’t for you.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 08, 2022, 04:42:53 PM
fair point
most of those types go back to what they like anyway
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on May 08, 2022, 06:41:54 PM
Yes, YOU GUYS. There’s 97 pages of motherfuckers whining about wheelbase, washers, bushings, leaning, and not being able to use a skate tool. Maybe ventures aren’t for you.

But man, once you find a skate tool that doesn’t bind into the metal and bushings that allow the hanger to turn, Ventures are a ton of fun.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 08, 2022, 08:50:54 PM
Just curious has anyone ever seen a single Venture rider do any of these mods to their trucks? Like I wonder if Manderson even noticed he switched trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 08, 2022, 08:58:46 PM
Just curious has anyone ever seen a single Venture rider do any of these mods to their trucks? Like I wonder if Manderson even noticed he switched trucks.

Ha. Yeah but those people rip.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on May 08, 2022, 09:21:41 PM
Ha. Yeah but those people rip.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cosmicgypsies on May 09, 2022, 04:30:13 AM
Tight ventures are the only ventures. You guys are trying to make them something they aren’t.

Does the same logic apply to Daewon's exuberant bushing washer setup giving his Tensor's wobble, a truck that was designed for stability? Or Gerwer fucking with his Thunders to make them looser? Shit maybe Danny Way, Burnquist and all those other mega ramp skaters putting hard bushings in their Indys and cranking them down with the threads showing should just skate Tensor's instead, since they're trying to make Indy's something they aren't :)

I really do not understand why you're so pressed over people tinkering with their trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on May 09, 2022, 05:49:54 AM
Just curious has anyone ever seen a single Venture rider do any of these mods to their trucks? Like I wonder if Manderson even noticed he switched trucks.
Yeah the most I've seen pro's who ride venture tinker with their trucks is putting bones bushings in them. But the majority ride them stock. I used to use bones and do the flat washer thing but recently I've been riding them stock and I like them best that way.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Cthulhu! on May 09, 2022, 09:29:15 AM
The good guys at Seasons have them in.
https://seasonsskateshop.com/products/venture-bushings-90du
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: arrbee on May 09, 2022, 10:40:26 AM
Ignition and Seber are great congrats to them

https://www.instagram.com/p/CdWE0tgFGuJ/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on May 09, 2022, 11:09:28 AM
There’s a Palace Collab too….why because they are the dopest truck brand….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 09, 2022, 11:26:37 AM
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Does the same logic apply to Daewon's exuberant bushing washer setup giving his Tensor's wobble, a truck that was designed for stability? Or Gerwer fucking with his Thunders to make them looser?

I think those two (and others) would do that to any truck brand they were riding for...no truck is that loose....even tho ACE stock come damn close to wobbly without the actual wobble.

Wobble.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: slappyjoes on May 10, 2022, 04:43:12 AM
What size would be good for 8.25/8.38. Should I go 5.6 or 5.8?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on May 10, 2022, 04:48:43 AM
What size would be good for 8.25/8.38. Should I go 5.6 or 5.8?
5.6 if you never are gonna size up or you love love tre flips or 5.8 if you’re probably gonna stay 8.38
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on May 10, 2022, 04:57:16 AM
What size would be good for 8.25/8.38. Should I go 5.6 or 5.8?

5.6 with 3 speedrings on the inside is my jam.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: slappyjoes on May 10, 2022, 05:06:19 AM
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5.6 if you never are gonna size up or you love love tre flips or 5.8 if you’re probably gonna stay 8.38

I always switch it up between 8.25 and 8.38 regularly
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 10, 2022, 05:08:58 AM
What size would be good for 8.25/8.38. Should I go 5.6 or 5.8?


Both those two above have it right.

If you are more a street tech, the 5.6 will work better on both the 8.25 and 8.38, but if you are more transition based or like a wider more stable ride, the 5.8 is more the one and is good on 8.38 more than 8.25 sized boards.


There are two guys I know and skate with who are very much those exact types I mentioned and riding those trucks as said, both finding they are perfect for what they want.


Putting three washers on the inside of 5.6 and having one washer on the inside of 5.8 are quite close, but the 5.8 will stick out more in the axle ends with that in mind.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nitro89 on May 10, 2022, 05:16:17 AM
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Both those two above have it right.

If you are more a street tech, the 5.6 will work better on both the 8.25 and 8.38, but if you are more transition based or like a wider more stable ride, the 5.8 is more the one and is good on 8.38 more than 8.25 sized boards.


There are two guys I know and skate with who are very much those exact types I mentioned and riding those trucks as said, both finding they are perfect for what they want.


Putting three washers on the inside of 5.6 and having one washer on the inside of 5.8 are quite close, but the 5.8 will stick out more in the axle ends with that in mind.

i ride 5.8's on both 8.25's and 8.38's and it feels sweet. more stable than the 5.6's i had on previously but i do have size 12's (us 13) so that may be why.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: slappyjoes on May 10, 2022, 05:44:42 AM
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Both those two above have it right.

If you are more a street tech, the 5.6 will work better on both the 8.25 and 8.38, but if you are more transition based or like a wider more stable ride, the 5.8 is more the one and is good on 8.38 more than 8.25 sized boards.


There are two guys I know and skate with who are very much those exact types I mentioned and riding those trucks as said, both finding they are perfect for what they want.


Putting three washers on the inside of 5.6 and having one washer on the inside of 5.8 are quite close, but the 5.8 will stick out more in the axle ends with that in mind.

Good to know thanks

Anyone know how many mm the hangers have for 5.6 and 5.8 tried looking it up but got a bunch of different answers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nitro89 on May 10, 2022, 05:53:29 AM
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Both those two above have it right.

If you are more a street tech, the 5.6 will work better on both the 8.25 and 8.38, but if you are more transition based or like a wider more stable ride, the 5.8 is more the one and is good on 8.38 more than 8.25 sized boards.


There are two guys I know and skate with who are very much those exact types I mentioned and riding those trucks as said, both finding they are perfect for what they want.


Putting three washers on the inside of 5.6 and having one washer on the inside of 5.8 are quite close, but the 5.8 will stick out more in the axle ends with that in mind.
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Good to know thanks

Anyone know how many mm the hangers have for 5.6 and 5.8 tried looking it up but got a bunch of different answers

5.6 = 143mm
5.8 = 150mm
(according to skatedeluxe)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 10, 2022, 05:53:56 AM
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5.6 with 3 speedrings on the inside is my jam.

Same for me on both 8.25 and 8.38.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CaptainCheeks on May 10, 2022, 07:54:47 AM
for anyone wondering how the loose bushings kit operates Ill say the bushings feel softer even though they are still the same standard Duro and you can make your trucks wiggle and operate squirrely but the main take I away that you will have to see over time is that I think these may solve the issue where venture bushings crack and crumble being that they are smaller and the washer wont crack em
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 10, 2022, 08:39:32 AM
It will make it worse as the washer binds the hanger sooner
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 10, 2022, 10:56:32 AM
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5.6 with 3 speedrings on the inside is my jam.
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Same for me on both 8.25 and 8.38.

+1
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 10, 2022, 12:14:26 PM
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5.6 with 3 speedrings on the inside is my jam.
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Same for me on both 8.25 and 8.38.
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+1

Aawwwww CMON!!

I was thinking I was decided that I was 8.5 trucks, 4lyfe (obviously)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 10, 2022, 01:02:30 PM
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5.6 with 3 speedrings on the inside is my jam.
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Same for me on both 8.25 and 8.38.
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Aawwwww CMON!!

I was thinking I was decided that I was 8.5 trucks, 4lyfe (obviously)

For me, on an 8.3x 8.25" trucks with 2-3 inner washers has always been good to me. 149s for 8.5s and up. I do miss the stability of 149s sometimes (usually in a park setting). Used to ride the 8.25/149 combo but I need the right type of 8.25 (a fat/full one).

8.3s with 8.25 trucks gives you that nice middle ground feeling.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fhk on May 10, 2022, 01:14:51 PM
5.6’s go good on 8 to 8.38 for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 10, 2022, 02:35:50 PM
Shit I am in purgatory skating 8.38-8.5, but occasionally buying an 8.25 DLX
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on May 10, 2022, 03:08:05 PM
Shit I am in purgatory skating 8.38-8.5, but occasionally buying an 8.25 DLX

i have 5.8's on a 8.25, feels just like my normal ride of 5.6's on an 8, but y'know - bigger ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on May 10, 2022, 03:56:02 PM
i'm running 5.6s on 8.0 and it feels pretty good. i used to run 5.2s and had no issues with them, but i wanted to try out the wider truck to see if it would improve anything. turning feels about the same, but getting into grinds feels slightly easier (especially bs smith) and i prefer the look of the wider truck. i don't have plans on skating boards 8+ though lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on May 10, 2022, 05:16:40 PM
i'm running 5.6s on 8.0 and it feels pretty good. i used to run 5.2s and had no issues with them, but i wanted to try out the wider truck to see if it would improve anything. turning feels about the same, but getting into grinds feels slightly easier (especially bs smith) and i prefer the look of the wider truck. i don't have plans on skating boards 8+ though lol
I think this is what Shanahan rides.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on May 11, 2022, 06:06:34 PM
https://imgur.com/y8JNRXx


For those that say Venture bushings suck. These are half a year old but I’m also 135 pounds in weight. But so is Frank Gerwer, if you skate a ton it can be hard to keep weight.


https://imgur.com/XoNi19L
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on May 11, 2022, 06:58:48 PM
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i'm running 5.6s on 8.0 and it feels pretty good. i used to run 5.2s and had no issues with them, but i wanted to try out the wider truck to see if it would improve anything. turning feels about the same, but getting into grinds feels slightly easier (especially bs smith) and i prefer the look of the wider truck. i don't have plans on skating boards 8+ though lol
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I think this is what Shanahan rides.

I'm running 5.6 on a DLX 8.5 right now and it feels pretty great. I normally ride 8.38, but I wanted to just give the 8.5 a poke.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 11, 2022, 08:14:47 PM
I too ride venture 5.6 on anything from 8-8.5

I wish I had 6.1s though. Everyone tells me I look better on a big board. My tre flip is better on a big board. So is my impossible.

In all honesty the only thing I lose is switch flip and that’s because I only try them like 10x a year till I get one then put it to bed.

I started on big boards. I learned everything I do every day by the time video days came out.

Im highly deadly with no comply rn. Huge bag in all four stances. As soon as I get switch no comply flips into switch or fakie manny im going to just call myself a master and sell my sole and start a og gang called

the league of non compliance.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 11, 2022, 08:18:15 PM
I too ride venture 5.6 on anything from 8-8.5

I wish I had 6.1s though. Everyone tells me I look better on a big board. My tre flip is better on a big board. So is my impossible.

In all honesty the only thing I lose is switch flip and that’s because I only try them like 10x a year till I get one then put it to bed.

I started on big boards. I learned everything I do every day by the time video days came out.

Im highly deadly with no comply rn. Huge bag in all four stances. As soon as I get switch no comply flips into switch or fakie manny im going to just call myself a master and sell my sole and start a og gang called

the league of non compliance.

You got 5.6s too!?? Arrgghhhh. Must resist.

6.1s seem interesting. If I recall correctly, the geo on the 6.1s is slightly different. I think they might be a bit more pulled in (slightly shorter effective wb). Could be totally off with this tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 11, 2022, 08:43:54 PM
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I too ride venture 5.6 on anything from 8-8.5

I wish I had 6.1s though. Everyone tells me I look better on a big board. My tre flip is better on a big board. So is my impossible.

In all honesty the only thing I lose is switch flip and that’s because I only try them like 10x a year till I get one then put it to bed.

I started on big boards. I learned everything I do every day by the time video days came out.

Im highly deadly with no comply rn. Huge bag in all four stances. As soon as I get switch no comply flips into switch or fakie manny im going to just call myself a master and sell my sole and start a og gang called

the league of non compliance.
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You got 5.6s too!?? Arrgghhhh. Must resist.

6.1s seem interesting. If I recall correctly, the geo on the 6.1s is slightly different. I think they might be a bit more pulled in (slightly shorter effective wb). Could be totally off with this tho.

I’m definitely starting an iG Gang tho
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 11, 2022, 08:57:23 PM
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I too ride venture 5.6 on anything from 8-8.5

I wish I had 6.1s though. Everyone tells me I look better on a big board. My tre flip is better on a big board. So is my impossible.

In all honesty the only thing I lose is switch flip and that’s because I only try them like 10x a year till I get one then put it to bed.

I started on big boards. I learned everything I do every day by the time video days came out.

Im highly deadly with no comply rn. Huge bag in all four stances. As soon as I get switch no comply flips into switch or fakie manny im going to just call myself a master and sell my sole and start a og gang called

the league of non compliance.
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You got 5.6s too!?? Arrgghhhh. Must resist.

6.1s seem interesting. If I recall correctly, the geo on the 6.1s is slightly different. I think they might be a bit more pulled in (slightly shorter effective wb). Could be totally off with this tho.


I got a second hand (barely used) set of 6.1 and they skate just like the other smaller versions, but I hadn't gone full tech and checked everything on them compared to the others in 5.8 and 5.6 or even smaller versions that are here too.

Not that that really helps at all, but they work and feel just like they should to my mind, only slightly wider.  Most of the bigger boards I have also have longer wheelbases, so there wasn't really any direct comparison except when trying them for fun swapping them in on an 8.5 which was interesting but not my thing.

I like 5.6 on 8.25, 5.8 on 8.5 (or 8.38) and 6.1 on 8.75 sized boards.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 11, 2022, 09:08:11 PM
6.1 standard +3.125
6.1 forged +3.25
easily my favorite truck, definitely recommend trying a set
have a hollow pair on 14" wb and the pop is perfection
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 11, 2022, 10:13:35 PM
I always wondered why Venture is a distant 3rd or 4th in terms of popularity.

Thunder has the most colorways and the biggest team. Independent has the most name recognition. So Ventures lose out in the beginner segment.

Technically they can be hard to pair a deck with them, and they don't turn (versus Ace or Indy).

Always puzzled me why Venture is far less popular of the big 3 brands.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 11, 2022, 10:35:40 PM
venture is the most mature truck on the market.
no spongebob collabs, super gaudy colors, iron crosses, etc
skipping all the gimmicks

really a truck for those in the know
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: pointandclick on May 11, 2022, 11:00:55 PM
I always wondered why Venture is a distant 3rd or 4th in terms of popularity.

Thunder has the most colorways and the biggest team. Independent has the most name recognition. So Ventures lose out in the beginner segment.

Technically they can be hard to pair a deck with them, and they don't turn (versus Ace or Indy).

Always puzzled me why Venture is far less popular of the big 3 brands.

indy has to have a bigger team no?
even with the exodus
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 12, 2022, 12:20:33 AM
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I always wondered why Venture is a distant 3rd or 4th in terms of popularity.

Thunder has the most colorways and the biggest team. Independent has the most name recognition. So Ventures lose out in the beginner segment.

Technically they can be hard to pair a deck with them, and they don't turn (versus Ace or Indy).

Always puzzled me why Venture is far less popular of the big 3 brands.
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indy has to have a bigger team no?

even with the exodus

No idea, they seem to give pro model colorways more often than Indys every season.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on May 12, 2022, 03:42:21 AM
6.1 standard +3.125
6.1 forged +3.25

easily my favorite truck, definitely recommend trying a set
have a hollow pair on 14" wb and the pop is perfection

Are you sure about these wb measurements? Different geometry on the 6.1 than all the others?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ridethegutter on May 12, 2022, 03:55:42 AM
I have been skating the 6.1 hollow lights for a while now. They feel so good on a full shaped 8.5 deck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: arrbee on May 12, 2022, 04:53:27 AM
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Shit I am in purgatory skating 8.38-8.5, but occasionally buying an 8.25 DLX
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i have 5.8's on a 8.25, feels just like my normal ride of 5.6's on an 8, but y'know - bigger ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

This is the only correct answer
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on May 12, 2022, 06:52:32 AM
Just tried the new bushings. They basically turn the Venture into a carvier one. It’s awesome.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 12, 2022, 08:41:23 AM
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6.1 standard +3.125
6.1 forged +3.25

easily my favorite truck, definitely recommend trying a set
have a hollow pair on 14" wb and the pop is perfection
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Are you sure about these wb measurements? Different geometry on the 6.1 than all the others?
yes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on May 12, 2022, 08:58:55 AM
I always wondered why Venture is a distant 3rd or 4th in terms of popularity.

Thunder has the most colorways and the biggest team. Independent has the most name recognition. So Ventures lose out in the beginner segment.

Technically they can be hard to pair a deck with them, and they don't turn (versus Ace or Indy).

Always puzzled me why Venture is far less popular of the big 3 brands.

Thank our lucky stars venture isn’t the Krux of DLX……it’s clearly the stepchild….used to be street corner? And when that peace’d they kept it on. 

Venture…if you know….you know…..

The one thing I’ll admit though is the current truck is way different than what people think ie. 90’s….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 12, 2022, 09:10:50 AM
Always puzzled me why Venture is far less popular of the big 3 brands.

Same, I always chalked it up to the legacy vibe that they 'don't turn' which we know not to be true (they just don't turn like other trucks). That seems to have stuck over the years. With Street corner they were never considered a 'big' brand (again marketing) even though they always has a sick team.

But now it's mostly mindshare and marketing.

Built to grind / Ride the Best...
Know Control
Loose Trucks Save Lives / 'Pilots' /Now it's our Turn

Awake /THE ONLY TRUCKS THAT MATTER

One of the 4 doesn't 'improve' skating for the general masses or let them know what they're getting.

It wasn't until that Worrest vid that things started popping off. Signing PRod way back did nothing? I still feel riding their current wave and increasing their market. DLX could do some better marketing tho...it's all Thunder all the Time is seems.

I want to like them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on May 12, 2022, 09:23:59 AM
Just tried the new bushings. They basically turn the Venture into a carvier one. It’s awesome.
i think i'm gonna pull the trigger and try them out soon. currently running 90a supercush with flat washer which works great.
are you running them with stock washers?
my "curb" board has thunders and every time i step on it, turning feels so liberating lmao
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 12, 2022, 10:19:47 AM
There was a period where they were a main brand, then a lull in the mid 00's till Bobby. They had a few big riders, but their last Street Corner runs had QC issues and they lagged behind making modern sizes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on May 12, 2022, 10:48:14 AM
I still think of Prod as a big venture guy. 

Indy is Indy, but if Thunder didn’t have DLX pushing them as their no. 1 truck brand….no one would give a shit….

I’m not mad Venture isn’t revered as much as I think it should, or has the market share Thunder has….I’ve even gotten over them making hi’s as their regular truck….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 12, 2022, 10:58:22 AM
Not to sound like a snob, but you have to know what you're getting into with Ventures, they aren't an ATV truck like Indy or Thunder which I think hurts their appeal with general skaters. Not as light as Thunder and don't turn (as well) like Indys, if I had newbies asking me to recommend them a truck Venture would not be on that list. I assumed they would have more pull with the ledge technicians since their team is stacked with some of the most tech guys around.

Come on Venture, give us the Lo on the 5.8 - 6.1 already!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 12, 2022, 11:12:31 AM
I still think of Prod as a big venture guy. 

Indy is Indy, but if Thunder didn’t have DLX pushing them as their no. 1 truck brand….no one would give a shit….

I’m not mad Venture isn’t revered as much as I think it should, or has the market share Thunder has….I’ve even gotten over them making hi’s as their regular truck….

Ughhhh I dunno man but I see Thunder outnumber Indy and Venture combined amongst kids that don't care one bit about DLX.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on May 12, 2022, 12:07:58 PM
I’m gonna guess which ever shop they go to give a shit about DLX……

Ventures are lighter than Indy’s, don’t wheelbite like Thunders, are more stable than any so why not with a beginner?  I think the hi’s would work fine in a ton of situations…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 12, 2022, 12:15:54 PM
Not to sound like a snob, but you have to know what you're getting into with Ventures, they aren't an ATV truck like Indy or Thunder which I think hurts their appeal with general skaters. Not as light as Thunder and don't turn (as well) like Indys, if I had newbies asking me to recommend them a truck Venture would not be on that list. I assumed they would have more pull with the ledge technicians since their team is stacked with some of the most tech guys around.

Come on Venture, give us the Lo on the 5.8 - 6.1 already!

For a beginner, ventures would be my first choice. More stable, cheaper, cooler…

I know this somewhat conflicts with what I just wrote above, but Indy’s, for me, are still somewhat of a baseline. Not my favorite, but are the most versatile. Once someone has been skating for awhile, unless they have a specific reason to not like indy, that would be my recommendation.

I currently skate thunders. Pretty stoked on em tbh.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 12, 2022, 12:23:47 PM
Also beginners usually right tight trucks and aren't going to be carving or turning beyond what any decent truck on the market can deliver

Been skating ventures for almost 3 years now, and while they're far from perfect, I don't see any reason why someone couldn't skate anything and everything with it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on May 12, 2022, 12:51:25 PM
I thought Ventures were the beginner truck of choice…
Every kid I’ve seen learning to skate usually has Venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 12, 2022, 01:08:53 PM
I think it depends on where you grow up and what's around. When I was a kid our local shops consisted of a Zumiez, a ski/snowboard shop that had some skate stuff, and then a shop 30min away that didn't sell Indy. So, you basically got Venture or Thunders and Ventures were most common on pre-assembled completes.

I've said it before but trucks are a zero sum game at best. They all have their finer and weaker points. Slap acts like pros can ride whatever just cuz they're that good, but I think part of it is they don't care and don't have a choice so unless shit is unrideable they microadjust and move on with life. I doubt that many dudes are worried about WB pairings especially since lots of dudes that have joined Venture recently seem to ride the same setups otherwise.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: disappointed on May 12, 2022, 01:39:56 PM
I still think of Prod as a big venture guy. 

Indy is Indy, but if Thunder didn’t have DLX pushing them as their no. 1 truck brand….no one would give a shit….

I’m not mad Venture isn’t revered as much as I think it should, or has the market share Thunder has….I’ve even gotten over them making hi’s as their regular truck….

The kids want the trucks their favourite pros skate, so it’s hardly surprising that Thunder is so popular; Tyshawn, Ishod, Suciu, Shane, Nyjah, Foy, Puig, Dashawn, Alexis, Elissa, Samara, Dylan etc. I was a Thunder guy because of MJ, Gino, SJ, Wray, Dill, Huf etc. I don’t think it’s all just because DLX is pushing them as there number one. That said...does anyone on Real or AntiHero skate venture? (I’m blanking of the top of my head).

Anywho, I’m not here to derail this, as I’ve got right back into Venture in the past few years, and they really are different than the 90s Ventures for sure. I was on hi’s then went to lo’s, and they’re just so fun to skate due to all their quirks which make them unique. I even bought the Touzery and Crocket just cos of the colorway. I’’m awake 8)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on May 12, 2022, 03:58:48 PM
The new green bushings made them too loose for me. I tightened them to about 3 almost 4 threads showing on the kingpin. The short height still allows them to turn really well even cranked down. Before I’d carve and sometimes have to lift my truck and turn into to the right direction. With these I can get that tilt that gets lost with Venture usually.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 12, 2022, 04:07:05 PM
Maybe the green bushings could let you chop down the kingpin so you get even more clearance, and still have a turny truck (by venture standards)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 12, 2022, 06:03:18 PM
I think it depends on where you grow up and what's around. When I was a kid our local shops consisted of a Zumiez, a ski/snowboard shop that had some skate stuff, and then a shop 30min away that didn't sell Indy. So, you basically got Venture or Thunders and Ventures were most common on pre-assembled completes.

I've said it before but trucks are a zero sum game at best. They all have their finer and weaker points. Slap acts like pros can ride whatever just cuz they're that good, but I think part of it is they don't care and don't have a choice so unless shit is unrideable they microadjust and move on with life. I doubt that many dudes are worried about WB pairings especially since lots of dudes that have joined Venture recently seem to ride the same setups otherwise.



I thought Mike Anderson was on boards with a 14.38 wb on Indy, but his special new shape now has 14.25 wb to accommodate the truck change.  Someone questioned him about it on instagram or something I recall, which I found really interesting.

There was someone else too who changed their board shape and had wb a touch shorter when they went to Venture trucks too, but I can't recall who right now.

It is an interesting one, on some boards I have set up and tried, or that others have tried at the indoor park, which is pretty much where I mess with product and make all kinds of weird and wonderful combinations, some of which work well and others that just don't with certain combinations.

The other thing to note is some people are a lot more open to some brands and others don't even want to try something if it has X brand on it, when they ride Y or Z brand.  Funny really.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 12, 2022, 06:13:03 PM

That said...does anyone on Real or AntiHero skate venture? (I’m blanking of the top of my head).



Interesting but no I don't think so.  Is it something like this:

Real have a spread of Thunder and Indy.
AH have  Thunder, Indy and Ace.
Krooked have Thunder, Indy, Ace and Venture.


The new green bushings made them too loose for me. I tightened them to about 3 almost 4 threads showing on the kingpin. The short height still allows them to turn really well even cranked down. Before I’d carve and sometimes have to lift my truck and turn into to the right direction. With these I can get that tilt that gets lost with Venture usually.

Maybe the green bushings could let you chop down the kingpin so you get even more clearance, and still have a turny truck (by venture standards)


That is instantly what I thought, but I am used to recycling a lot of well used hangers, and use cut down or low top bushings on most of those trucks.

Even if the kingpin is naturally shorter from a lot of skateboarding, lower top bushings help with keeping the truck still functional without the kingpin nut coming off or catching.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 12, 2022, 08:49:19 PM
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I think it depends on where you grow up and what's around. When I was a kid our local shops consisted of a Zumiez, a ski/snowboard shop that had some skate stuff, and then a shop 30min away that didn't sell Indy. So, you basically got Venture or Thunders and Ventures were most common on pre-assembled completes.

I've said it before but trucks are a zero sum game at best. They all have their finer and weaker points. Slap acts like pros can ride whatever just cuz they're that good, but I think part of it is they don't care and don't have a choice so unless shit is unrideable they microadjust and move on with life. I doubt that many dudes are worried about WB pairings especially since lots of dudes that have joined Venture recently seem to ride the same setups otherwise.
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I thought Mike Anderson was on boards with a 14.38 wb on Indy, but his special new shape now has 14.25 wb to accommodate the truck change.  Someone questioned him about it on instagram or something I recall, which I found really interesting.

There was someone else too who changed their board shape and had wb a touch shorter when they went to Venture trucks too, but I can't recall who right now.

It is an interesting one, on some boards I have set up and tried, or that others have tried at the indoor park, which is pretty much where I mess with product and make all kinds of weird and wonderful combinations, some of which work well and others that just don't with certain combinations.

The other thing to note is some people are a lot more open to some brands and others don't even want to try something if it has X brand on it, when they ride Y or Z brand.  Funny really.

As far back as I can remember his shape has always been 14.25. I'm sure Bobby's twin tail hasn't changed either.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 12, 2022, 09:29:06 PM


As far back as I can remember his shape has always been 14.25. I'm sure Bobby's twin tail hasn't changed either.


You are right and I was tripping, cause when I went looking I couldn't find anything, eg from Mike Anderson's Instagram, he is on Venture from early 2020 but his shape was the 8.38 x 32 with 14.25 in the Krooked 2019 catalogs.  That set of catalogs was pretty cool to see too, but that is just me.


https://krookedskateboarding.com/spring-2019/

https://krookedskateboarding.com/summer-2019/

https://krookedskateboarding.com/fall-2019/

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Knee Pain on May 13, 2022, 02:02:04 PM
I thought Ventures were the beginner truck of choice…
Every kid I’ve seen learning to skate usually has Venture.

In my experience from a UK perspective, Venture were always a beginner truck as they were cheaper than any other truck (pre DLX)

Can't see myself ever skating another truck, Ventures with supercush 90a and a flat washer is more than enough turn for me with the added stability when setting up for tricks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bunk Moreland on May 14, 2022, 09:58:44 AM
This ad was probably why I put ventures on my first set-up.
(https://coresites-cdn-adm.imgix.net/sidewalk/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/VentureMenatwork.jpg?fit=crop&w=709&h=567)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on May 14, 2022, 10:08:38 AM
This ad was probably why I put ventures on my first set-up.
(https://coresites-cdn-adm.imgix.net/sidewalk/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/VentureMenatwork.jpg?fit=crop&w=709&h=567)
fire
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 14, 2022, 11:53:24 AM
This ad was probably why I put ventures on my first set-up.
(https://coresites-cdn-adm.imgix.net/sidewalk/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/VentureMenatwork.jpg?fit=crop&w=709&h=567)

Thank you for this
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 16, 2022, 11:55:40 AM
I like the older ventures at least as much as the current. Also, I like ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on May 16, 2022, 12:01:16 PM
Anyone know if the older ventures with the gold hardware are the same quality as the newer ventures we have now?

i'm faiiiiirly sure that pic you posted specifically is a dlx venture, so yeah it'd be the same as current
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on May 16, 2022, 05:40:08 PM
Has anyone done 6.1s on an 8.25? Sounds ridiculous but I don’t want to buy new trucks but I want to size down. I’ve done 159 on 8.38 before and it was fine but this might be pushing it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on May 16, 2022, 05:59:14 PM
Has anyone done 6.1s on an 8.25? Sounds ridiculous but I don’t want to buy new trucks but I want to size down. I’ve done 159 on 8.38 before and it was fine but this might be pushing it.

i have 5.6s on an 8.25 and 6.1s would definitely enter into hot rod territory. with the right wheels it might not bother you but ehhhh
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on May 16, 2022, 06:36:50 PM
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Has anyone done 6.1s on an 8.25? Sounds ridiculous but I don’t want to buy new trucks but I want to size down. I’ve done 159 on 8.38 before and it was fine but this might be pushing it.
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i have 5.6s on an 8.25 and 6.1s would definitely enter into hot rod territory. with the right wheels it might not bother you but ehhhh

I mean, I probably wouldn't go higher than 5.8s on a 8.25 personally, but I've seen Ace classics 55s on a 8.5 and it looked really fun, so it would be a similar kind of hot rod.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 16, 2022, 07:46:18 PM
Has anyone done 6.1s on an 8.25? Sounds ridiculous but I don’t want to buy new trucks but I want to size down. I’ve done 159 on 8.38 before and it was fine but this might be pushing it.

I rode indy 159s on an 8.25 (chico chocolate deck, so this was awhile back, shit maybe 7ish years ago), anyfuckinways, I liked it. Had some great flatground sessions on it. I think I stopped because I was self conscious of how it looked.
If I was giving advice to someone, I’d say +/- .25” deck to axle ratio.
You already have the trucks, try it, and if it doesn’t work, THEN you get a smaller size. Or not. Do whatever is fun.
I’ve heard of people that skate vert doing this type of setup.
I was skating an 8.6” deck, with ace classic 55s (9” axle) and 56 conical fulls. Mid session I moved the inner washer to the outside of the wheel, bringing the wheels in, narrower. I was amazed at how different the wheelbite marks were, the new ones being down and in, significantly so, which to me indicated that the wheels being set narrower, were able to turn more, before wheelbite. Blah di blah blah
For some reason I’m remembering some comment you made that transition was maybe your preferred terrain (I could be way the fuck off here), but if so, I’d be interested to hear how the setup worked out for you. I’ve felt that the significantly wider trucks than deck thing worked best for ledges/manuals/and wasn’t much a hinderance for most flip tricks, but not for carving and shit like that. Hewitt rides 159s on 8.38 and he is the shit so…what do I know.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on May 16, 2022, 08:10:28 PM
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Has anyone done 6.1s on an 8.25? Sounds ridiculous but I don’t want to buy new trucks but I want to size down. I’ve done 159 on 8.38 before and it was fine but this might be pushing it.
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I rode indy 159s on an 8.25 (chico chocolate deck, so this was awhile back, shit maybe 7ish years ago), anyfuckinways, I liked it. Had some great flatground sessions on it. I think I stopped because I was self conscious of how it looked.
If I was giving advice to someone, I’d say +/- .25” deck to axle ratio.
You already have the trucks, try it, and if it doesn’t work, THEN you get a smaller size. Or not. Do whatever is fun.
I’ve heard of people that skate vert doing this type of setup.
I was skating an 8.6” deck, with ace classic 55s (9” axle) and 56 conical fulls. Mid session I moved the inner washer to the outside of the wheel, bringing the wheels in, narrower. I was amazed at how different the wheelbite marks were, the new ones being down and in, significantly so, which to me indicated that the wheels being set narrower, were able to turn more, before wheelbite. Blah di blah blah
For some reason I’m remembering some comment you made that transition was maybe your preferred terrain (I could be way the fuck off here), but if so, I’d be interested to hear how the setup worked out for you. I’ve felt that the significantly wider trucks than deck thing worked best for ledges/manuals/and wasn’t much a hinderance for most flip tricks, but not for carving and shit like that. Hewitt rides 159s on 8.38 and he is the shit so…what do I know.

Yep transition is definitely what I skate most. Though I’m trying to be more well rounded as I’ve lost most of my pop haha. I’ve never put any kind of time into skating ledges and I want to try something new. I’m used to wider trucks but wants to size down the board, which is why I asked. I only ever do kickflips if I’m flipping but setups don’t really affect that for me. Figured I’d ask before wasting my time setting something up I’d hate, but I guess if it’s sucks it’ll do in the timebeing until I get some 5.8s.

I guess my concern was the turn, because I’ll have way less leverage and ventures aren’t known to turn the best of the brands. Love how they feel though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ol Nick on May 16, 2022, 08:17:08 PM
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Has anyone done 6.1s on an 8.25? Sounds ridiculous but I don’t want to buy new trucks but I want to size down. I’ve done 159 on 8.38 before and it was fine but this might be pushing it.
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i have 5.6s on an 8.25 and 6.1s would definitely enter into hot rod territory. with the right wheels it might not bother you but ehhhh
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I mean, I probably wouldn't go higher than 5.8s on a 8.25 personally, but I've seen Ace classics 55s on a 8.5 and it looked really fun, so it would be a similar kind of hot rod.
(https://i.imgur.com/mDwi4RT.jpg)
I’m running 9” 55 classics on an 8.5 with NFG 60mm V and no inside washers. I have 6.1s and can see them working similarly on an 8.25 although I’d probably want to leave a washer on the inside and maybe go for a skinnier wheel. You can see where the front wheels contact the board if you zoom in. I’m still tweaking the wells.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 16, 2022, 08:36:49 PM
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Has anyone done 6.1s on an 8.25? Sounds ridiculous but I don’t want to buy new trucks but I want to size down. I’ve done 159 on 8.38 before and it was fine but this might be pushing it.
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I rode indy 159s on an 8.25 (chico chocolate deck, so this was awhile back, shit maybe 7ish years ago), anyfuckinways, I liked it. Had some great flatground sessions on it. I think I stopped because I was self conscious of how it looked.
If I was giving advice to someone, I’d say +/- .25” deck to axle ratio.
You already have the trucks, try it, and if it doesn’t work, THEN you get a smaller size. Or not. Do whatever is fun.
I’ve heard of people that skate vert doing this type of setup.
I was skating an 8.6” deck, with ace classic 55s (9” axle) and 56 conical fulls. Mid session I moved the inner washer to the outside of the wheel, bringing the wheels in, narrower. I was amazed at how different the wheelbite marks were, the new ones being down and in, significantly so, which to me indicated that the wheels being set narrower, were able to turn more, before wheelbite. Blah di blah blah
For some reason I’m remembering some comment you made that transition was maybe your preferred terrain (I could be way the fuck off here), but if so, I’d be interested to hear how the setup worked out for you. I’ve felt that the significantly wider trucks than deck thing worked best for ledges/manuals/and wasn’t much a hinderance for most flip tricks, but not for carving and shit like that. Hewitt rides 159s on 8.38 and he is the shit so…what do I know.
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Yep transition is definitely what I skate most. Though I’m trying to be more well rounded as I’ve lost most of my pop haha. I’ve never put any kind of time into skating ledges and I want to try something new. I’m used to wider trucks but wants to size down the board, which is why I asked. I only ever do kickflips if I’m flipping but setups don’t really affect that for me. Figured I’d ask before wasting my time setting something up I’d hate, but I guess if it’s sucks it’ll do in the timebeing until I get some 5.8s.

I guess my concern was the turn, because I’ll have way less leverage and ventures aren’t known to turn the best of the brands. Love how they feel though.

Wider trucks can help me get a better pop, I think because of the added stability.

And to ol nick: I also like the 55 classics on an 8.5. Works way better than I would have thought. Hi o o ur setup looks nice
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 16, 2022, 08:42:47 PM
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Anyone know if the older ventures with the gold hardware are the same quality as the newer ventures we have now?
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i'm faiiiiirly sure that pic you posted specifically is a dlx venture, so yeah it'd be the same as current


The set I got a while back which was barely used / second hand from someone still had what looked like the DLX sticker under the truck and it had all the gold nuts and washers, with the red V on the hanger.

I would be going with yes on that one, as they still skate the same and no issues there.

Guessing they started leaving off the gold bits and having everything just normal silver for at least a couple of years, going back over DLX catalogs.

Still one set with all gold trimmings from the 2020 spring catalog.


https://venturetrucks.net/spring-2020/


Edit:  I wanted to go looking further and turned up DLX took on Venture around 2011, so they have been doing them for a long time now.  There were still some of the gold extras on various trucks back through the older catalogs from 2015 to 2020 but there are not too many of those catalogs available beyond that, from what I could see.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on May 16, 2022, 09:58:32 PM
Honestly I enjoy just skating fast and doing the basics. The added stability sounds nice. I’m gonna go for it and grab the smaller board and let you guys know how I like it.

I only own Conical wheels but I might look into some Classics if I end up enjoying it but don’t like the hot rod.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fooj on May 17, 2022, 07:02:30 AM
This could probably go in the Questions that dont deserve their own thread section, but has anyone ever gotten 1 black and 1 silver kingpin on the same set of trucks? I just noticed it on my 5.6 Cast.  Doesnt really matter, but it made me pause for a sec
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on May 17, 2022, 07:38:09 AM
This could probably go in the Questions that dont deserve their own thread section, but has anyone ever gotten 1 black and 1 silver kingpin on the same set of trucks? I just noticed it on my 5.6 Cast.  Doesnt really matter, but it made me pause for a sec

i'd chalk it up to supply chain issues & how you'll never truly get a 'set'. but i'm curious, does it have little dots instead of the size listed on the underside of the hanger?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: timv on May 17, 2022, 07:41:26 AM
They had supply issues and switched to a different kingpin.  It is slightly smaller also so it pressed into the baseplate a bit further than the other....
This could probably go in the Questions that dont deserve their own thread section, but has anyone ever gotten 1 black and 1 silver kingpin on the same set of trucks? I just noticed it on my 5.6 Cast.  Doesnt really matter, but it made me pause for a sec
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: vicious cycle on May 17, 2022, 01:29:51 PM
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They had supply issues and switched to a different kingpin.  It is slightly smaller also so it pressed into the baseplate a bit further than the other....

I wonder.. could this also explain my issue with the 5.6 v-lights I bought early 2021.
One truck gets freaking tight asf, the other one is fairly loose. On both the nuts are flush with the kingpin.
I can tighten the looser one pretty easy. For the other one, flush is max tightness and it's very hard to get the nut that far. It's like my bushings are hard as rocks but when I swap them from one truck to another, the problem stays the same.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 18, 2022, 07:25:21 AM
package from nfg came in today
immediately wanted to see the low bushing/low kp nut combo

nfg low bushings 95a
flat top washer
acer lo pro kingpin nut (flush)
(https://i.ibb.co/gMvF0XW/52-AB06-B9-E804-42-E4-B59-E-9-BDE4-B182852.gif) (https://imgbb.com/)

definitely not for my main setup, saving it for something fun
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 18, 2022, 07:49:19 AM
Swapped from cast to forged plates on my 5.6 TI to mellow out a Blind deck that was feeling too steep. Couldn't tell if my pivot cups weren't sitting right but my trucks felt more rattle-y, even with the hardware firmly tightened. Recently changed out the pivot cups so I doubt it was them.

Lower baseplate causing more feedback off the wheels maybe?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 18, 2022, 07:59:51 AM
Swapped from cast to forged plates on my 5.6 TI to mellow out a Blind deck that was feeling too steep. Couldn't tell if my pivot cups weren't sitting right but my trucks felt more rattle-y, even with the hardware firmly tightened. Recently changed out the pivot cups so I doubt it was them.

Lower baseplate causing more feedback off the wheels maybe?

This is the feeling, and why I don’t prefer forged plates
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 18, 2022, 09:48:43 AM
Forged plates feel harder. Nothing is worse than forged plates with a hollow axle. Just sounds off.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 18, 2022, 09:55:45 AM
Forged plates feel harder. Nothing is worse than forged plates with a hollow axle. Just sounds off.

I'm on TI, so solid axles.

I'll keep the cast baseplates in my bag till the next session in case I want to swap out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 18, 2022, 10:31:40 AM
Swapped from cast to forged plates on my 5.6 TI to mellow out a Blind deck that was feeling too steep. Couldn't tell if my pivot cups weren't sitting right but my trucks felt more rattle-y, even with the hardware firmly tightened. Recently changed out the pivot cups so I doubt it was them.

Lower baseplate causing more feedback off the wheels maybe?

I agree. My Shoes and Gear Special hybrid feels a little wiggly. Had me checking to see if my nuts was loose.

I believe that the forged plates are slightly different than the cast.

My cast plates with hollow hanger are no problem the opposite is hella wiggly. I enjoy it tho. I oval all my trucks because I dig the loose nut feeling
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on May 18, 2022, 11:41:51 AM
I like how my V-hollows feel. I dig the dry sound of forged plates, they are harder so it kinda makes the deck sound snappier for longer…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on May 18, 2022, 12:40:09 PM
package from nfg came in today
immediately wanted to see the low bushing/low kp nut combo

nfg low bushings 95a
flat top washer
acer lo pro kingpin nut (flush)
(https://i.ibb.co/gMvF0XW/52-AB06-B9-E804-42-E4-B59-E-9-BDE4-B182852.gif) (https://imgbb.com/)

definitely not for my main setup, saving it for something fun

Looks sick, I used to skate indys like that and did probably my best skating. Maybe its time to go back to that level of looseness only on ventures this time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 18, 2022, 02:27:10 PM
Just curious has anyone on Slap tried Ventures and didn't prefer them and went back to another brand?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on May 18, 2022, 03:46:02 PM
Just curious has anyone on Slap tried Ventures and didn't prefer them and went back to another brand?

I actually just did this...i skated indy for 20 years or so and wanted to switch to venture...they didnt turn enough for me even after bushings broke in so tried tweaking them a few different ways with different bushings, flat top washer and all that and realized i was trying to force myself onto venture and they just dont work for my skating so bought some new indys to switch back.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on May 19, 2022, 05:56:06 AM
Just curious has anyone on Slap tried Ventures and didn't prefer them and went back to another brand?

Yes, I have. Biggest complaints were the grind and turn, just didnt suit me. Went back to indy's for a few months and tried lurpivs, then went back to indys. Most recently I got a set of thunders. I feel like they split the indy/venture difference quite well, and I'm enjoying my time on them. Dont wanna jinx myself, but i think i found my comfort zone on these thunder team hollows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cosmicgypsies on May 19, 2022, 06:00:26 AM
https://imgur.com/y8JNRXx


For those that say Venture bushings suck. These are half a year old but I’m also 135 pounds in weight. But so is Frank Gerwer, if you skate a ton it can be hard to keep weight.


https://imgur.com/XoNi19L

don't get me wrong here as im also a venture enjoyer and will sing their praises but trying to correlate your weight/experience with them is purely anecdotal as i'm the same weight as you and blew out stock venture bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on May 19, 2022, 06:54:34 AM
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Just curious has anyone on Slap tried Ventures and didn't prefer them and went back to another brand?
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Yes, I have. Biggest complaints were the grind and turn, just didnt suit me. Went back to indy's for a few months and tried lurpivs, then went back to indys. Most recently I got a set of thunders. I feel like they split the indy/venture difference quite well, and I'm enjoying my time on them. Dont wanna jinx myself, but i think i found my comfort zone on these thunder team hollows.

Same here. The turn didn't really bother me (set them up with flat washers), but the grind really did. Went back to Indy after a little over a month on Ventures. Nowadays I mostly go back and forth between Indy and Thunder, and I love both equally but for different reasons.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on May 20, 2022, 06:46:59 AM
The grind is prolly my biggest disappointment, but I don’t really realize it while I’m skating them.  The turn I actually don’t mind. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 20, 2022, 07:15:07 AM
So is part of the appeal for Slap that you can ride them all jiggly and your board can look "cool", but in reality the trucks aren't that loose? Kinda like fake jugs?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on May 20, 2022, 07:32:17 AM
So is part of the appeal for Slap that you can ride them all jiggly and your board can look "cool", but in reality the trucks aren't that loose? Kinda like fake jugs?

was also thinking this.

"look how loose my trucks are guys, yea, i just like them like that"

*guy on aces with three threads showing proceeds to carve in a tighter circle*
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on May 20, 2022, 07:42:45 AM
The grind is prolly my biggest disappointment, but I don’t really realize it while I’m skating them.  The turn I actually don’t mind.

i used to skate ace classics (which supposedly grind great because of the "softer" metal) before i got ventures and on ventures i could grind some ledges that didn't really grind on aces
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: vicious cycle on May 20, 2022, 07:45:06 AM
Just put the new "loose trucks kit"with the shorter top bushing in my 5.6 v-lights.
Damn, I have to screw down the nut till there are almost  2 threads showing to stop them from wiggling arround...
Gonna put an extra flat washer on top to protect my kingpin threads.
With other words, you get what you pay for.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on May 20, 2022, 07:46:50 AM
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The grind is prolly my biggest disappointment, but I don’t really realize it while I’m skating them.  The turn I actually don’t mind.
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i used to skate ace classics (which supposedly grind great because of the "softer" metal) before i got ventures and on ventures i could grind some ledges that didn't really grind on aces

people say they enjoy that soft ace classic grind feel, i think its just slower overall, the added grip may give you more control, but its def slower. Since ventures are harder, i feel like the beginning of the grind is the determining factor, youre either gonna stick right away and not grind at all, or grind just fine. Ace and indy you can usually force a little grind no matter what.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 20, 2022, 12:03:36 PM
@LebowskisRug @IpathCats yall gotta be trolling or just dumb
loose trucks are about turning quickly, not the turning radius...
theres no "fake loose" with that little resistance on the bushings
just say you ride tight and dont like/skate ventures.
its completely fine, nobody is forcing or paying you to ride em

ace and indy will always have the tighter turning radius
nobody in their right mind buys ventures for a tight turning radius
making a big deal about loose trucks is an ace and indy thing
pointing it out as "cool" will always be lame no matter the truck
its just supposed to be fun. makes sense that you dont get it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on May 20, 2022, 12:23:59 PM
@LebowskisRug @IpathCats yall gotta be trolling or just dumb
loose trucks are about turning quickly, not the turning radius...
theres no "fake loose" with that little resistance on the bushings
just say you ride tight and dont like/skate ventures.
its completely fine, nobody is forcing or paying you to ride em

ace and indy will always have the tighter turning radius
nobody in their right mind buys ventures for a tight turning radius
making a big deal about loose trucks is an ace and indy thing
pointing it out as "cool" will always be lame no matter the truck
its just supposed to be fun. makes sense that you dont get it

do you really not see the trend of people having way too loose trucks? stop taking things so personally please.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 20, 2022, 12:43:41 PM
So is part of the appeal for Slap that you can ride them all jiggly and your board can look "cool", but in reality the trucks aren't that loose? Kinda like fake jugs?

Do you find yourself going to say…a sandwich shoppe, that you actively do not like, often?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 20, 2022, 12:51:52 PM
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@LebowskisRug @IpathCats yall gotta be trolling or just dumb
loose trucks are about turning quickly, not the turning radius...
theres no "fake loose" with that little resistance on the bushings
just say you ride tight and dont like/skate ventures.
its completely fine, nobody is forcing or paying you to ride em

ace and indy will always have the tighter turning radius
nobody in their right mind buys ventures for a tight turning radius
making a big deal about loose trucks is an ace and indy thing
pointing it out as "cool" will always be lame no matter the truck
its just supposed to be fun. makes sense that you dont get it
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do you really not see the trend of people having way too loose trucks? stop taking things so personally please.
im personally not telling people how to enjoy their toys
skateboarding is really not that serious
3 for every 100 skaters i see in person are riding "way too loose"
and they look like they are having fun
i get being anti trends but thats barely a trend in this day and age
sounds haterish but maybe thats just me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 20, 2022, 12:58:56 PM
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So is part of the appeal for Slap that you can ride them all jiggly and your board can look "cool", but in reality the trucks aren't that loose? Kinda like fake jugs?
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Do you find yourself going to say…a sandwich shoppe, that you actively do not like, often?
sometimes twice a day by the looks of it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 20, 2022, 01:03:56 PM
@LebowskisRug @IpathCats yall gotta be trolling or just dumb
loose trucks are about turning quickly, not the turning radius...
theres no "fake loose" with that little resistance on the bushings
just say you ride tight and dont like/skate ventures.
its completely fine, nobody is forcing or paying you to ride em

ace and indy will always have the tighter turning radius
nobody in their right mind buys ventures for a tight turning radius
making a big deal about loose trucks is an ace and indy thing
pointing it out as "cool" will always be lame no matter the truck
its just supposed to be fun. makes sense that you dont get it

I am dumb because I think it's silly that you are trying to, as you said, alter the turning radius of a truck?

The radius is fixed due to the geometry of the truck unless you cut the bottom bushing. Perhaps you are confusing terms.  All a flat washer does is let you get past where the hanger binds with the washer, but that is not altering geometry just the product design. Even with stock bushings Ventures have a lot of wiggle at the top of the turn hence the stability factor, but require more leaning to get deeper into the turn. All you are doing is just reducing the lean needed and lessening the rebound with a softer duro or increasing it with a harder duro. So maybe I am not the dumb one for understanding the basics of how a skateboard truck functions? Or do you really desire a truck with a restrictive turning radius and then run it loose to make that radius floppy and less responsive?

I've ridden wobbly loose trucks and tighter trucks. They both have their issues. At one point I removed the washers from my Ventures and ran them with the nut barely secured. They flopped all around when on the board yet still had a pretty tame turn. They didn't carve any better just felt lifeless. I've yet to see any current amateur skater limited by the turning of their trucks and countless people who clearly are making their skating worse from it. My preferences really don't inform any opinion in this thread.

I also wasn't trolling with my initial question. I do think it's pretty fucking amusing that people would go out of their way to make a Venture wobble to just attempt to get a similar turn to other trucks. To me this suggests wanting to look like your shit is wobbly but anyone that has ridden a Venture knows it's mostly a farce. I am sure people will come up with a half baked copout about fitting various board geometries and shit, but it seems most pros that swapped didn't magically change their setup because of it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 20, 2022, 01:08:32 PM
@off

Have you learned to ollie onto a ledge yet? Do you realllllly think your wobbly trucks are helping your skating if you legitimately cannot skate a standard height ledge? https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109028.0

In all serious though, if you can't handle the twitch you won't be able to sit on grinds. Dudes like Foy who ride looser stuff might not have been doing it forever and have really good balance and form. If you go find a curb and ollie onto it and do a bunch of 50-50s a looser truck will turn right off the ledge and you won't sit on it. A tight truck will just pitch you when you're off balance. Since I basically only skate curbs and ledges with each brand of trucks I tend to find the point between the two and go from there.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 20, 2022, 01:09:56 PM
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@LebowskisRug @IpathCats yall gotta be trolling or just dumb
loose trucks are about turning quickly, not the turning radius...
theres no "fake loose" with that little resistance on the bushings
just say you ride tight and dont like/skate ventures.
its completely fine, nobody is forcing or paying you to ride em

ace and indy will always have the tighter turning radius
nobody in their right mind buys ventures for a tight turning radius
making a big deal about loose trucks is an ace and indy thing
pointing it out as "cool" will always be lame no matter the truck
its just supposed to be fun. makes sense that you dont get it
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do you really not see the trend of people having way too loose trucks? stop taking things so personally please.
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im personally not telling people how to enjoy their toys
skateboarding is really not that serious
3 for every 100 skaters i see in person are riding "way too loose"
and they look like they are having fun
i get being anti trends but thats barely a trend in this day and age
sounds haterish but maybe thats just me

One of the main reasons we're all on slap, (especially the gear thread) is to discuss, and sometimes suggest, how people enjoy their toys

Also skaters riding their shit way too loose is definitely still a thing. Not as bad as a few years ago, but I still see a laughable amount of skaters that ride their shit twitchy when they probably shouldn't, and suffer as a result of it because they can't land shit and get pitched all the time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 20, 2022, 01:21:49 PM
@off

Have you learned to ollie onto a ledge yet? Do you realllllly think your wobbly trucks are helping your skating if you legitimately cannot skate a standard height ledge? https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109028.0
yes two years ago lol get a life
but glad to know youre a fan of my posts
and no i do not ride my main board like that as stated above
reading comprehension really isnt your strong suit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 20, 2022, 02:33:41 PM
Show me where you said it was your backup board? T is true that reading Slap at a glance on my phone isn't where I tend to sit and absorb details, I'm straight up illiterate basically.

 How's your ledge game after 2 years of swapping wheelbases and trucks? Did wobbles unlock the first trick kids learn at a skatepark on their handmedowns they left in the rain?

2 years ago I couldn't have imagined myself in such a position that I couldn't get into something and was also worried it could be my setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 20, 2022, 03:35:59 PM
Show me where you said it was your backup board? T is true that reading Slap at a glance on my phone isn't where I tend to sit and absorb details, I'm straight up illiterate basically.

 How's your ledge game after 2 years of swapping wheelbases and trucks? Did wobbles unlock the first trick kids learn at a skatepark on their handmedowns they left in the rain?

2 years ago I couldn't have imagined myself in such a position that I couldn't get into something and was also worried it could be my setup.
definitely not for my main setup, saving it for something fun
show me where i said wobbly trucks help for ledges
you got nothing to do but bring up posts from two years ago
but you should probably use that time to read a book

i hope you do understand that things change in a 2yr span
circumstances, opinions, setups, skill level, and more!
who knows? you might be a decent poster in 2024
a reach, yes. but not implausible

finding whats comfortable actually made me a better skater
shocking right?
deepest apologies for not skating waterlogged hand-me-downs
shoulda asked you for permission to spend my money
wont happen again boss
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on May 20, 2022, 03:50:30 PM
Any illusion of coolness is long gone after 100 pages of this thread…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 20, 2022, 06:17:36 PM
Any illusion of coolness is long gone after 100 pages of this thread…..

Aye…the only thread that matters



Just got some new 5.8s, cast. Purple bushings. They came fairly tightened down. I’m hyped to set them up.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: disappointed on May 20, 2022, 06:48:30 PM
Any illusion of coolness is long gone after 100 pages of this thread…..

I’m really enjoying my gilby 5.8s since I swapped out the cast for forged, so gilby v-lights on a Quasi 8.75.
I’m running bones hard, but I’m no lightweight, it still turns great and stability for pop.

I feel cool, even if I suck 8)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 20, 2022, 08:52:57 PM
Just put the new "loose trucks kit"with the shorter top bushing in my 5.6 v-lights.
Damn, I have to screw down the nut till there are almost  2 threads showing to stop them from wiggling arround...
Gonna put an extra flat washer on top to protect my kingpin threads.
With other words, you get what you pay for.


That is the point where I skate them for a bit and make sure they are comfortable, then angle grind off the top of the kingpin to maximise kingpin clearance.

You can still get the nut on and off easily, but have almost zero issues with kingpins catching, while still having a normal truck (no inverted kingpin needed).


Granted this is not for everyone, but it definitely works for those who have kingpin issues, or grind the truck down to the point of the kingpin catching, while still having a normal truck turn and stability on the same as stock bushings.


There are a couple of others I know who have used the same thing as the "Loose bushing kit" with the lower top bushing with kingpin nut flush and they are way too loose for me, but those guys like that sort of thing, so to me it is the best of both worlds right there.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 20, 2022, 09:35:20 PM
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Show me where you said it was your backup board? T is true that reading Slap at a glance on my phone isn't where I tend to sit and absorb details, I'm straight up illiterate basically.

 How's your ledge game after 2 years of swapping wheelbases and trucks? Did wobbles unlock the first trick kids learn at a skatepark on their handmedowns they left in the rain?

2 years ago I couldn't have imagined myself in such a position that I couldn't get into something and was also worried it could be my setup.
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definitely not for my main setup, saving it for something fun
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show me where i said wobbly trucks help for ledges
you got nothing to do but bring up posts from two years ago
but you should probably use that time to read a book

i hope you do understand that things change in a 2yr span
circumstances, opinions, setups, skill level, and more!
who knows? you might be a decent poster in 2024
a reach, yes. but not implausible

finding whats comfortable actually made me a better skater
shocking right?
deepest apologies for not skating waterlogged hand-me-downs
shoulda asked you for permission to spend my money
wont happen again boss

Hold on so I'm an idiot with no reading comprehension, but let's go through your meandering argument of middle school level insults:

1. First and foremost you do not use proper capitalization or punctuation and don't understand line breaks to separate your subjects.
2. You have chased wobbly Ventures switching out a half dozen sets of bushings in this thread making multiple claims of how it helps this or that type of skating.
3. I remember that post being pretty amusing then and then just clicked a random thread in your post history page and it came up. I clicked a few others but didn't copy the links in which you talked about how first long wheelbases, then short wheelbases, then this and that all were totally going to unlock everything from transition skating to your pop master ledges.
4. Co authored a few books, finished current book today, ohhhh wait you're literally using an second grader's insult.
5. I've got positive rep and 3 gnars from just calling out your kook-don in this thread. That's better than the majority of Slap.
6. My entire argument is actually that you've made the "this is it" argument a bunch, but it's probably moot since the things your asking about learning shouldn't depend on convoluted trucks. If you can't get remotely close with a stock truck then it's not the one.
7. No one is saying you should ride a bogus rain board board, see point 6.
8. Closing with an attempt at sarcasm.

Alright, back to Ventures- a truck that isn't for me right now but I have liked and appreciated in the past.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on May 20, 2022, 09:58:42 PM
Y'all boys tripping, take a joke, laugh at yourself, it's ok. We're all pretty silly, we are on a skateboard forum in 2022 after all.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 20, 2022, 10:05:05 PM
On a Friday night no less..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on May 20, 2022, 10:14:52 PM
Y'all boys tripping, take a joke, laugh at yourself, it's ok. We're all pretty silly, we are on a skateboard forum in 2022 after all.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 21, 2022, 12:40:47 AM
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Show me where you said it was your backup board? T is true that reading Slap at a glance on my phone isn't where I tend to sit and absorb details, I'm straight up illiterate basically.

 How's your ledge game after 2 years of swapping wheelbases and trucks? Did wobbles unlock the first trick kids learn at a skatepark on their handmedowns they left in the rain?

2 years ago I couldn't have imagined myself in such a position that I couldn't get into something and was also worried it could be my setup.
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definitely not for my main setup, saving it for something fun
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show me where i said wobbly trucks help for ledges
you got nothing to do but bring up posts from two years ago
but you should probably use that time to read a book

i hope you do understand that things change in a 2yr span
circumstances, opinions, setups, skill level, and more!
who knows? you might be a decent poster in 2024
a reach, yes. but not implausible

finding whats comfortable actually made me a better skater
shocking right?
deepest apologies for not skating waterlogged hand-me-downs
shoulda asked you for permission to spend my money
wont happen again boss
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Hold on so I'm an idiot with no reading comprehension, but let's go through your meandering argument of middle school level insults:

1. First and foremost you do not use proper capitalization or punctuation and don't understand line breaks to separate your subjects.
2. You have chased wobbly Ventures switching out a half dozen sets of bushings in this thread making multiple claims of how it helps this or that type of skating.
3. I remember that post being pretty amusing then and then just clicked a random thread in your post history page and it came up. I clicked a few others but didn't copy the links in which you talked about how first long wheelbases, then short wheelbases, then this and that all were totally going to unlock everything from transition skating to your pop master ledges.
4. Co authored a few books, finished current book today, ohhhh wait you're literally using an second grader's insult.
5. I've got positive rep and 3 gnars from just calling out your kook-don in this thread. That's better than the majority of Slap.
6. My entire argument is actually that you've made the "this is it" argument a bunch, but it's probably moot since the things your asking about learning shouldn't depend on convoluted trucks. If you can't get remotely close with a stock truck then it's not the one.
7. No one is saying you should ride a bogus rain board board, see point 6.
8. Closing with an attempt at sarcasm.

Alright, back to Ventures- a truck that isn't for me right now but I have liked and appreciated in the past.
im sorry but 8 points about this? cmon bro touch grass
i write incomplete sentences because its slap, not a book
improper grammar because its slap, not an essay
really dont care, nothing is being published in this thread

maybe i should have just aired the grievance
not trying to insult you
but you are a terrible poster in this thread
actually youre a dork, just write a book already
annoyingly bad, stop doing it daily, we get it
have a good day, take care of your family
not worth living in a truck thread that you hate
you can put it in times new roman 12pt font if you want
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 21, 2022, 07:27:47 AM
So I get accused of being unable to read because I don't specifically call out every detail, yet when I do it's a bad thing? And you get a pass for not making a post response and essay but I don't?

Dude you're getting way too wound up about things. Honestly speaking I'm not that great of a skater myself, but there's a line where it's the gear for the basics. Like, I still can't switch flip and my tailslides aren't as good on a longer setup but not letting the nuances of madness take over is a better thing for skill development in the long run and isn't the culprit.

And like I said I don't hate Ventures. Almost bought some the other day in a moment of weakness. But wobbly loose Ventures are a farce.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on May 21, 2022, 08:19:12 AM
You guys know there's a PM option on slap? I get the pissing contest is pretty heated right now, but can we maybe get it over with?

Thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Cthulhu! on May 21, 2022, 11:27:34 AM
After several sessions with the new green bushings, I have come to the conclusion that they make me feel very I don't know how to put it.
When I buy and set up Ventures, it's because I am AWAKE but also it is specifically because I don't want them to shake. Sometimes I do get the loose trucks itch, but not with Ventures. I have some Indies waiting and ready to go with their white super soft bushings after these hit the axle.

I want the Venture stability and the beautiful snap that comes with it. When they are loose like this I feel like they have lost their innate characteristics. I'm going back to stock purples with the flat top washer.
As far the actual loose, it's at a reasonable healthy level. They really do free up nicely. It's not the crazy shakes you get once you start chopping the bushings. Also the green looks cool...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on May 21, 2022, 02:28:40 PM
Arguably wobbly loose anything is a farce but it’s a comfort thing that some people like. 

Those barrier kult guys were running wobbly gullwings….same deal….they don’t turn….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: vicious cycle on May 22, 2022, 10:02:22 AM
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Just put the new "loose trucks kit"with the shorter top bushing in my 5.6 v-lights.
Damn, I have to screw down the nut till there are almost  2 threads showing to stop them from wiggling arround...
Gonna put an extra flat washer on top to protect my kingpin threads.
With other words, you get what you pay for.
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That is the point where I skate them for a bit and make sure they are comfortable, then angle grind off the top of the kingpin to maximise kingpin clearance.

You can still get the nut on and off easily, but have almost zero issues with kingpins catching, while still having a normal truck (no inverted kingpin needed).


Granted this is not for everyone, but it definitely works for those who have kingpin issues, or grind the truck down to the point of the kingpin catching, while still having a normal truck turn and stability on the same as stock bushings.


There are a couple of others I know who have used the same thing as the "Loose bushing kit" with the lower top bushing with kingpin nut flush and they are way too loose for me, but those guys like that sort of thing, so to me it is the best of both worlds right there.
Personally I think the clearance on ventures is already great. And for my type of skating its more then I would ever need.
The main reason I use the new kit is an issue i have with one of my trucks. It's way to tight compared to the other one. So tight that it gets unusable as soon as I try to engage the nylon to a point where I feel safe to not loose the nut. It's strange. Maybe the kingpins is to short.
With the new kit it works how it should be. I skated them yesterday for a few hours and I was able to loosen them a little bit, maybe one and a half threads showing. So for now they feel kinda normal .
Like you get them new with flush nuts.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 22, 2022, 09:47:32 PM
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Just put the new "loose trucks kit"with the shorter top bushing in my 5.6 v-lights.
Damn, I have to screw down the nut till there are almost  2 threads showing to stop them from wiggling arround...
Gonna put an extra flat washer on top to protect my kingpin threads.
With other words, you get what you pay for.
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That is the point where I skate them for a bit and make sure they are comfortable, then angle grind off the top of the kingpin to maximise kingpin clearance.

You can still get the nut on and off easily, but have almost zero issues with kingpins catching, while still having a normal truck (no inverted kingpin needed).


Granted this is not for everyone, but it definitely works for those who have kingpin issues, or grind the truck down to the point of the kingpin catching, while still having a normal truck turn and stability on the same as stock bushings.


There are a couple of others I know who have used the same thing as the "Loose bushing kit" with the lower top bushing with kingpin nut flush and they are way too loose for me, but those guys like that sort of thing, so to me it is the best of both worlds right there.
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Personally I think the clearance on ventures is already great. And for my type of skating its more then I would ever need.
The main reason I use the new kit is an issue i have with one of my trucks. It's way to tight compared to the other one. So tight that it gets unusable as soon as I try to engage the nylon to a point where I feel safe to not loose the nut. It's strange. Maybe the kingpins is to short.
With the new kit it works how it should be. I skated them yesterday for a few hours and I was able to loosen them a little bit, maybe one and a half threads showing. So for now they feel kinda normal .
Like you get them new with flush nuts.


It has been a bit funny with supply issues including different kingpins and even seems like some are in a little more than others, which means slightly different kingpin heights, then bushing madness, etc.

I guess with the clearance thing, it is more a factor when the truck is down to axle or significantly grinding on the kingpin, but for most trucks, it is never really an issue when new.  Being more in the second hand market and making things work a lot longer than they might otherwise, I am used to altering parts where the previous user had deemed them finished and done, then passing them on to others who can keep skating them, so this is more where the bushing sets with low heads really come into their own.

Good that with the low heads, you can get them to where you want them, which is the main thing, because ending up with a kingpin nut that is barely on and truck still not loose enough is not a good thing for anyone.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on June 11, 2022, 09:39:46 AM
Posting over here from the truck set up thread

Low bushings working pretty damn well on inverted kingpins .

(https://i.imgur.com/2Ux3WWnl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6PyvgSzl.jpg)

Psyched on this set up at the moment

Cast baseplate 5.2 low
Venture Hollow 5.2 axel
Inverted kingpin
Venture low bushings

Crazy turn radius for low trucks . This is the loosest I’ve ever ridden my trucks and it’s been really fun. Fucking with my flat ground tricks a little but getting used to it this past week.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 11, 2022, 09:44:11 AM
Posting over here from the truck set up thread

Low bushings working pretty damn well on inverted kingpins .

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(https://i.imgur.com/2Ux3WWnl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6PyvgSzl.jpg)

Psyched on this set up at the moment

Cast baseplate 5.2 low
Venture Hollow 5.2 axel
Inverted kingpin
Venture low bushings

Crazy turn radius for low trucks . This is the loosest I’ve ever ridden my trucks and it’s been really fun. Fucking with my flat ground tricks a little but getting used to it this past week.
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Sick
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ol Nick on June 11, 2022, 10:03:21 AM
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Posting over here from the truck set up thread

Low bushings working pretty damn well on inverted kingpins .

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(https://i.imgur.com/2Ux3WWnl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6PyvgSzl.jpg)

Psyched on this set up at the moment

Cast baseplate 5.2 low
Venture Hollow 5.2 axel
Inverted kingpin
Venture low bushings

Crazy turn radius for low trucks . This is the loosest I’ve ever ridden my trucks and it’s been really fun. Fucking with my flat ground tricks a little but getting used to it this past week.
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Sick
I agree with this opinion
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on June 11, 2022, 11:05:09 AM
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Posting over here from the truck set up thread

Low bushings working pretty damn well on inverted kingpins .

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(https://i.imgur.com/2Ux3WWnl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6PyvgSzl.jpg)

Psyched on this set up at the moment

Cast baseplate 5.2 low
Venture Hollow 5.2 axel
Inverted kingpin
Venture low bushings

Crazy turn radius for low trucks . This is the loosest I’ve ever ridden my trucks and it’s been really fun. Fucking with my flat ground tricks a little but getting used to it this past week.
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Sick
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I agree with this opinion
it's like looking into the future
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on June 11, 2022, 12:52:58 PM
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Posting over here from the truck set up thread

Low bushings working pretty damn well on inverted kingpins .

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(https://i.imgur.com/2Ux3WWnl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6PyvgSzl.jpg)

Psyched on this set up at the moment

Cast baseplate 5.2 low
Venture Hollow 5.2 axel
Inverted kingpin
Venture low bushings

Crazy turn radius for low trucks . This is the loosest I’ve ever ridden my trucks and it’s been really fun. Fucking with my flat ground tricks a little but getting used to it this past week.
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Sick
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I agree with this opinion
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it's like looking into the future

I believe this is the smallest inverted kingpin out there also. So the clearance for smith grinds and feebles is just crazy . I have them pretty tight and it’s still the loosest my trucks have ever been .

Also used an easy method for getting the kingpin nut lodged in there. Put it in, set the kingpin, drill part of a small nail into the space to lodge the nut in there good , break off the end of nail so nothing is sticking out, this ensures you will not get a loose kingpin by any means and sand down on a stone or cement outside the truck if any part of the kingpin nut or screw is sticking out
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on June 11, 2022, 10:22:19 PM
Posting over here from the truck set up thread

Low bushings working pretty damn well on inverted kingpins .

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(https://i.imgur.com/2Ux3WWnl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6PyvgSzl.jpg)

Psyched on this set up at the moment

Cast baseplate 5.2 low
Venture Hollow 5.2 axel
Inverted kingpin
Venture low bushings

Crazy turn radius for low trucks . This is the loosest I’ve ever ridden my trucks and it’s been really fun. Fucking with my flat ground tricks a little but getting used to it this past week.
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them green bushings brings back memories of venture featherlights..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thanksgiving on June 12, 2022, 07:30:31 PM
cast v hollows coming in fall. regular baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin. first ones will be a kader pro model.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 12, 2022, 07:36:16 PM
cast v hollows coming in fall. regular baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin. first ones will be a kader pro model.

Sauce?

Guess there's hope for a Low in 8.25 and above if they are changing up the product lineup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 12, 2022, 10:21:15 PM
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Posting over here from the truck set up thread

Low bushings working pretty damn well on inverted kingpins .

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(https://i.imgur.com/2Ux3WWnl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6PyvgSzl.jpg)

Psyched on this set up at the moment

Cast baseplate 5.2 low
Venture Hollow 5.2 axel
Inverted kingpin
Venture low bushings

Crazy turn radius for low trucks . This is the loosest I’ve ever ridden my trucks and it’s been really fun. Fucking with my flat ground tricks a little but getting used to it this past week.
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them green bushings brings back memories of venture featherlights..

So beautiful
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thanksgiving on June 13, 2022, 02:27:22 PM
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cast v hollows coming in fall. regular baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin. first ones will be a kader pro model.
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Sauce?

Guess there's hope for a Low in 8.25 and above if they are changing up the product lineup.
https://i.ibb.co/kBwMfYg/841-A3-B70-C4-D0-44-C5-A503-0774-B81-A9-FF6.jpg
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on June 13, 2022, 02:38:07 PM
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cast v hollows coming in fall. regular baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin. first ones will be a kader pro model.
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Sauce?

Guess there's hope for a Low in 8.25 and above if they are changing up the product lineup.
[close]
https://i.ibb.co/kBwMfYg/841-A3-B70-C4-D0-44-C5-A503-0774-B81-A9-FF6.jpg

raw & hollow? i'm sweating that final $ amount
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Spaced Cadet on June 13, 2022, 03:47:10 PM
Can someone give me the tldr of why so many prefer the cast plates over the forged so much?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on June 13, 2022, 04:04:24 PM
Can someone give me the tldr of why so many prefer the cast plates over the forged so much?

The arguments in favor of cast venture plates include (1) 1.5 mm taller (resulting in 53.5 mm for the standard variants), (2)  less wheelbase extension with the casts - though I forget the exact figures, and (3) forged plates have a different ride quality...to some, they feel more "tinny" and rattle more underfoot.  Ultimately, it is one more thing for us to split hairs about.  Both forged and cast are good options. You would be fine with either, but you know how this board works (not excluding myself from the madness by any means). 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 13, 2022, 04:26:32 PM

I definitely prefer a little more height over a little less weight, when it comes to any brand baseplates, but I know some people are a lot more particular about having the lightest setup they can, some even having the lowest setup they can as well.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on June 13, 2022, 04:37:15 PM
I like the lower height of the forged ones.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on June 13, 2022, 05:13:27 PM
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Can someone give me the tldr of why so many prefer the cast plates over the forged so much?
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The arguments in favor of cast venture plates include (1) 1.5 mm taller (resulting in 53.5 mm for the standard variants), (2)  less wheelbase extension with the casts - though I forget the exact figures, and (3) forged plates have a different ride quality...to some, they feel more "tinny" and rattle more underfoot.  Ultimately, it is one more thing for us to split hairs about.  Both forged and cast are good options. You would be fine with either, but you know how this board works (not excluding myself from the madness by any means).

I agree with Idk above me about the lower height being a benefit, but I'm one of those people that can't stand forged plates. IIRC for Venture forged plates add somewhere between 3.4-3.5 to the overall WB and cast plates add 3.25.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Spaced Cadet on June 13, 2022, 05:27:26 PM
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Can someone give me the tldr of why so many prefer the cast plates over the forged so much?
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The arguments in favor of cast venture plates include (1) 1.5 mm taller (resulting in 53.5 mm for the standard variants), (2)  less wheelbase extension with the casts - though I forget the exact figures, and (3) forged plates have a different ride quality...to some, they feel more "tinny" and rattle more underfoot.  Ultimately, it is one more thing for us to split hairs about.  Both forged and cast are good options. You would be fine with either, but you know how this board works (not excluding myself from the madness by any means).

Thanks, was not aware of the wheel base differences. I'm an idiot but wouldn't the extension of the forged base plate combined with the lower height result in a similar pop feel to the higher but shorter wheelbase cast plates? The forged would just be lighter and lower overall (but with tinny feeling too)?

Idk but the forged plates are working out okay for me right now. Might just stick to them to keep myself from going further insane.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 13, 2022, 05:27:47 PM
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Can someone give me the tldr of why so many prefer the cast plates over the forged so much?
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The arguments in favor of cast venture plates include (1) 1.5 mm taller (resulting in 53.5 mm for the standard variants), (2)  less wheelbase extension with the casts - though I forget the exact figures, and (3) forged plates have a different ride quality...to some, they feel more "tinny" and rattle more underfoot.  Ultimately, it is one more thing for us to split hairs about.  Both forged and cast are good options. You would be fine with either, but you know how this board works (not excluding myself from the madness by any means).

Cast - + 3.25"
Forged - + 3.5"

Forged do feel more rattle-y during the ride and lowered height gives a better pinch on grinds.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: juniormint on June 13, 2022, 05:46:50 PM
Doesn’t look like there will be a 6.1 in the team hollow version according to that screenshot. Bummer. On the forged vs cast debate, this may seem counter intuitive but I prefer risers on forged plates for some reason. Kinda into the tinny feel and seems to put it at the perfect height.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 13, 2022, 05:54:47 PM
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cast v hollows coming in fall. regular baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin. first ones will be a kader pro model.
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Sauce?

Guess there's hope for a Low in 8.25 and above if they are changing up the product lineup.
[close]
https://i.ibb.co/kBwMfYg/841-A3-B70-C4-D0-44-C5-A503-0774-B81-A9-FF6.jpg
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raw & hollow? i'm sweating that final $ amount

If you're a truck hoarder (like I assume most of us are) you've probably already done this combination of axle and baseplate, allows Venture to pair better with most deck shapes (+14.25" and above) with the pinch and slide that we've come to love.

Price wise I'm guessing $65? Yuto's latest model is around that range.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on June 13, 2022, 06:06:12 PM
cast look better…you used to be able to hammer out the kingpin, height….I’m accepting of the forged high….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on June 13, 2022, 07:16:55 PM
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Can someone give me the tldr of why so many prefer the cast plates over the forged so much?
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The arguments in favor of cast venture plates include (1) 1.5 mm taller (resulting in 53.5 mm for the standard variants), (2)  less wheelbase extension with the casts - though I forget the exact figures, and (3) forged plates have a different ride quality...to some, they feel more "tinny" and rattle more underfoot.  Ultimately, it is one more thing for us to split hairs about.  Both forged and cast are good options. You would be fine with either, but you know how this board works (not excluding myself from the madness by any means).
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Thanks, was not aware of the wheel base differences. I'm an idiot but wouldn't the extension of the forged base plate combined with the lower height result in a similar pop feel to the higher but shorter wheelbase cast plates? The forged would just be lighter and lower overall (but with tinny feeling too)?

Idk but the forged plates are working out okay for me right now. Might just stick to them to keep myself from going further insane.

No you're on point and I've seen plenty of people here believe this compensation is true for all forged baseplates whether it be Indy, Venture, of Thunder. I don't think this necessarily works in practice though. Could just be in my head, who knows. One thing I believe to be true after watching Ben Degros vids is that a truck can be too light so maybe the slight extra heft from the cast plates is something I personally favor.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on June 13, 2022, 07:47:29 PM
What about Rodney dropping bb’s into his baseplates!  Spin weight!…
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Post by: iw0 on June 13, 2022, 08:08:49 PM
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cast v hollows coming in fall. regular baseplate with hollow axle and kingpin. first ones will be a kader pro model.
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Sauce?

Guess there's hope for a Low in 8.25 and above if they are changing up the product lineup.
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raw & hollow? i'm sweating that final $ amount
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If you're a truck hoarder (like I assume most of us are) you've probably already done this combination of axle and baseplate, allows Venture to pair better with most deck shapes (+14.25" and above) with the pinch and slide that we've come to love.

Price wise I'm guessing $65? Yuto's latest model is around that range.

yeah, spot on with that. idk why i had it in my head that raws were more pricy than polished, so thanks for making me double check lol
and speaking of raws, i don't think i've seen anyone talk about or post a pic of them. anyone have strong feelings either way?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 13, 2022, 08:22:58 PM
What about Rodney dropping bb’s into his baseplates!  Spin weight!…

He only had to do that because he’s asleep on some kook trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on June 13, 2022, 08:46:28 PM
Around late January my friend was also supposed to be doing a venture graphic and I asked him to ask if they could do on a cast hollow combo. He later told me they agreed and also decided to do it on the Kader truck

You're welcome lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on June 13, 2022, 08:47:29 PM
Heard a little rumor that venture might adjust where their baseplate holes are drilled to make installation easier and bring in the WB a bit. Essentially sliding them up. Not 100% sure on the validity or when it would be though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on June 13, 2022, 08:56:49 PM
Heard a little rumor that venture might adjust where their baseplate holes are drilled to make installation easier and bring in the WB a bit. Essentially sliding them up. Not 100% sure on the validity or when it would be though.

(https://c.tenor.com/7OaIxXIwIOEAAAAC/encino-man-no.gif)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 13, 2022, 09:02:55 PM
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Heard a little rumor that venture might adjust where their baseplate holes are drilled to make installation easier and bring in the WB a bit. Essentially sliding them up. Not 100% sure on the validity or when it would be though.
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Haha!

I’ve taken screenshots of Kostons board, and it looks like this is what he does
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on June 13, 2022, 11:41:57 PM
Can I put venture low hanger from a 5.2 on a forged baseplate from a venture 5.2 high? Will it be compatible?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 13, 2022, 11:53:03 PM
Can I put venture low hanger from a 5.2 on a forged baseplate from a venture 5.2 high? Will it be compatible?

Yes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on June 14, 2022, 05:45:24 AM
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Heard a little rumor that venture might adjust where their baseplate holes are drilled to make installation easier and bring in the WB a bit. Essentially sliding them up. Not 100% sure on the validity or when it would be though.
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Haha!

I’ve taken screenshots of Kostons board, and it looks like this is what he does

Would you be able to upload one? I'd be curious to see
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: backside_frontside on June 14, 2022, 08:02:47 AM
Heard a little rumor that venture might adjust where their baseplate holes are drilled to make installation easier and bring in the WB a bit. Essentially sliding them up. Not 100% sure on the validity or when it would be though.

My biggest complaint about Venture is that the front holes in the baseplate are too far back. The hanger gets in the way so you can't use a traditional skate tool. I gotta have a separate 3/8" wrench just for the front two bolts. Pain in the ass, but that's the price you gotta pay to be <AWAKE>
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on June 14, 2022, 12:53:30 PM
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My biggest complaint about Venture is that the front holes in the baseplate are too far back. The hanger gets in the way so you can't use a traditional skate tool. I gotta have a separate 3/8" wrench just for the front two bolts. Pain in the ass, but that's the price you gotta pay to be <AWAKE>

get the ace tool or a spitfire metal tool, they're thinner than a regular t-tool and fit ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on June 14, 2022, 01:10:40 PM
Silver tool….only the best….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on June 14, 2022, 01:23:14 PM
Silver tool….only the best….

this has worked well for me with my ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 14, 2022, 06:05:34 PM
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That would be bunk. I’m pretty sure the low trucks would Change the most.

Sucking in the wb world take away that light switch quick pop we all love. My tricks explode on a high truck like the way my thunder lows used to.

I need that. I better stick up soon just to be safe.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on June 14, 2022, 09:44:43 PM
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Yes

I thought the kingpin ends up sticking out way too much? My 5.2 high baseplate came with a longer one than a 5.2 low baseplate and I wasn’t able to switch them .

On the forged vs cast discussion I feel like I grind thru the baseplate to the pivot cup on nose slides way faster on forged plates than cast .
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on June 15, 2022, 01:56:40 AM
“skate tools” fucking suck damn...

I mean the inconvenience of getting a couple little spanner’s and a bum bag.... the inconvenience.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Jonny7.5Alive on June 15, 2022, 05:54:02 AM
There's no way they're changing the wb on ventures just so you can use skate tool. Makes no sense. Would completely change the physics of the truck which are its only selling point.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on June 15, 2022, 07:04:54 AM
Maybe Koston got tired of redrilling his and he has so much pull that they acquiesced.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: backside_frontside on June 15, 2022, 08:11:03 AM
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Heard a little rumor that venture might adjust where their baseplate holes are drilled to make installation easier and bring in the WB a bit. Essentially sliding them up. Not 100% sure on the validity or when it would be though.
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My biggest complaint about Venture is that the front holes in the baseplate are too far back. The hanger gets in the way so you can't use a traditional skate tool. I gotta have a separate 3/8" wrench just for the front two bolts. Pain in the ass, but that's the price you gotta pay to be <AWAKE>
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get the ace tool or a spitfire metal tool, they're thinner than a regular t-tool and fit ventures

I have the spitfire tool, but that doesn't work. You can kinda use it at first at an angle but once the nut gets tightened enough the hanger gets in the way.

Also how would moving the front holes forward a few mm change the WB? The baseplate dimensions (W x L) are still the same and the holes in the board are still the same. All that geometry has me confused.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on June 15, 2022, 08:19:13 AM
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Heard a little rumor that venture might adjust where their baseplate holes are drilled to make installation easier and bring in the WB a bit. Essentially sliding them up. Not 100% sure on the validity or when it would be though.
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My biggest complaint about Venture is that the front holes in the baseplate are too far back. The hanger gets in the way so you can't use a traditional skate tool. I gotta have a separate 3/8" wrench just for the front two bolts. Pain in the ass, but that's the price you gotta pay to be <AWAKE>
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get the ace tool or a spitfire metal tool, they're thinner than a regular t-tool and fit ventures
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I have the spitfire tool, but that doesn't work. You can kinda use it at first at an angle but once the nut gets tightened enough the hanger gets in the way.

Also how would moving the front holes forward a few mm change the WB? The baseplate dimensions (W x L) are still the same and the holes in the board are still the same. All that geometry has me confused.

If you change the position of the holes while keeping everything else the same, the axle is now closer/further to the middle of the board. Thereby changing the space between your front and back wheels, which is the effective wheelbase of your board.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 15, 2022, 08:52:47 AM
Who the fuck wants to skate like koston anyway. Thad be not great. Koston is famous because they reached the level earlier than us and for threatening homeless people of wallets.

Now we are all old we equally bad.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on June 16, 2022, 08:34:51 PM
Can I put venture low hanger from a 5.2 on a forged baseplate from a venture 5.2 high? Will it be compatible?

I mean a cast venture low hanger to a forged hi base baseplate
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on June 16, 2022, 08:59:43 PM
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I mean a cast venture low hanger to a forged hi base baseplate

i have had this set up on a board with no issues
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ronnie Rodriguez on June 17, 2022, 06:21:26 AM
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I mean a cast venture low hanger to a forged hi base baseplate
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i have had this set up on a board with no issues

Yeah, Venture uses the same two models of baseplate (cast or forged) for every truck and the variance is all in the hangars. I've heard someone say they had lows with a lower pin, but every set I've had has the same height (checked after hearing that because of the madness).

I've been thinking about Ventures way too much and bought a set (5.6 hollow) yesterday. Been slappy crazy for the past couple years and recently re-discovered the joy of flatground...my best of which was on Ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: toe_knee on June 17, 2022, 07:28:41 AM
I have the evisen butterfly knife tool, it’s like an open ended wrench, has a socket for the kingpin, axel nuts, a bottle opener, and a sharp edge that I’ve used to cut grip once, pretty good tool, and I look like a badass when someone asks me for a tool and I pull out a butterfly knife, hope they don’t fuck with ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on June 17, 2022, 10:57:40 AM
I have the evisen butterfly knife tool, it’s like an open ended wrench, has a socket for the kingpin, axel nuts, a bottle opener, and a sharp edge that I’ve used to cut grip once, pretty good tool, and I look like a badass when someone asks me for a tool and I pull out a butterfly knife, hope they don’t fuck with ventures

Welp, I just found something new i need to blow my money on. they're going for like 70-80 on ebay. i cant believe im considering this. its just so cool......
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 17, 2022, 11:56:02 AM
Wrong thread.

Sorry to curse in this thread. The holiest of places.

I didn’t mean to Desecrate this temple
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: camel filters on June 17, 2022, 01:45:22 PM
Who the fuck wants to skate like koston anyway. Thad be not great. Koston is famous because they reached the level earlier than us and for threatening homeless people of wallets.

Now we are all old we equally bad.
I don't care for koston as a person either but i guarantee you, koston isn't as shitty at skating as 99% of us on this board at any age.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 17, 2022, 04:07:28 PM
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Who the fuck wants to skate like koston anyway. Thad be not great. Koston is famous because they reached the level earlier than us and for threatening homeless people of wallets.

Now we are all old we equally bad.
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I don't care for koston as a person either but i guarantee you, koston isn't as shitty at skating as 99% of us on this board at any age.

This is a messy shit post. ::)


I’m sorry I don’t feel good. I haven’t for a few months I think? I also was probably Daymaring about changing the truck I’ve been relying upon to feel semi good based on the modification of someone who historically has a poor pushing style.

I enjoy his Photos and his tricks are incredible.

I love the GG Allin edit. It was an exaggeration of what all me and mine thought about Koston’s style. What was the chimp on this? I can’t remember.

Sloppy af between hammers. Just this time he was saying fuck you only tricks matter.

That’s the era. Only tricks matter.

I’ve never felt like that.

If anyones feeling are hurt it’s not my intention. Im kinda a style snob.

I love all skateboarding. I’m way more critical of my own than others believe me. I’ve quit like 20 or more times because I’d have outer body experience see myself and want to hang it up.
 
I’ve focused boards going to package store because I didn’t like how Gross I felt. Come back all relapsed and high holding my trucks.

I was hated by other skaters in my youth because it was the only art I had from 83-like 95 when I joined the other illegal activity of bombing.

You should hear what I got to say about popular graffiti writers.

Especially that wack LA style that looks like it’s made of chewed bubblegum.

Or that horrendous SC style with all the whips and shit.

That’s like the jazz push to me.  Some wack frickin no style shit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 17, 2022, 05:45:47 PM
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Who the fuck wants to skate like koston anyway. Thad be not great. Koston is famous because they reached the level earlier than us and for threatening homeless people of wallets.

Now we are all old we equally bad.
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I don't care for koston as a person either but i guarantee you, koston isn't as shitty at skating as 99% of us on this board at any age.
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This is a messy shit post. ::)


I’m sorry I don’t feel good. I haven’t for a few months I think? I also was probably Daymaring about changing the truck I’ve been relying upon to feel semi good based on the modification of someone who historically has a poor pushing style.

I enjoy his Photos and his tricks are incredible.

I love the GG Allin edit. It was an exaggeration of what all me and mine thought about Koston’s style. What was the chimp on this? I can’t remember.

Sloppy af between hammers. Just this time he was saying fuck you only tricks matter.

That’s the era. Only tricks matter.

I’ve never felt like that.

If anyones feeling are hurt it’s not my intention. Im kinda a style snob.

I love all skateboarding. I’m way more critical of my own than others believe me. I’ve quit like 20 or more times because I’d have outer body experience see myself and want to hang it up.
 
I’ve focused boards going to package store because I didn’t like how Gross I felt. Come back all relapsed and high holding my trucks.

I was hated by other skaters in my youth because it was the only art I had from 83-like 95 when I joined the other illegal activity of bombing.

You should hear what I got to say about popular graffiti writers.

Especially that wack LA style that looks like it’s made of chewed bubblegum.

Or that horrendous SC style with all the whips and shit.

That’s like the jazz push to me.  Some wack frickin no style shit

I love when you write these, perfect.


And Koston’s push was the real forecast.
I do find myself cheering for him these days, looking better on board, it’s nice to see.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: camel filters on June 17, 2022, 06:03:54 PM
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Who the fuck wants to skate like koston anyway. Thad be not great. Koston is famous because they reached the level earlier than us and for threatening homeless people of wallets.

Now we are all old we equally bad.
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I don't care for koston as a person either but i guarantee you, koston isn't as shitty at skating as 99% of us on this board at any age.
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This is a messy shit post. ::)


I’m sorry I don’t feel good. I haven’t for a few months I think? I also was probably Daymaring about changing the truck I’ve been relying upon to feel semi good based on the modification of someone who historically has a poor pushing style.

I enjoy his Photos and his tricks are incredible.

I love the GG Allin edit. It was an exaggeration of what all me and mine thought about Koston’s style. What was the chimp on this? I can’t remember.

Sloppy af between hammers. Just this time he was saying fuck you only tricks matter.

That’s the era. Only tricks matter.

I’ve never felt like that.

If anyones feeling are hurt it’s not my intention. Im kinda a style snob.

I love all skateboarding. I’m way more critical of my own than others believe me. I’ve quit like 20 or more times because I’d have outer body experience see myself and want to hang it up.
 
I’ve focused boards going to package store because I didn’t like how Gross I felt. Come back all relapsed and high holding my trucks.

I was hated by other skaters in my youth because it was the only art I had from 83-like 95 when I joined the other illegal activity of bombing.

You should hear what I got to say about popular graffiti writers.

Especially that wack LA style that looks like it’s made of chewed bubblegum.

Or that horrendous SC style with all the whips and shit.

That’s like the jazz push to me.  Some wack frickin no style shit
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I love when you write these, perfect.


And Koston’s push was the real forecast.
I do find myself cheering for him these days, looking better on board, it’s nice to see.
@Uncle Flea no worries man, talk your shit. It's why were all here. I hear you on his style, although i did enjoy his goof off dork stuff a la chomp at first. His goofiness did wear thin and come off as fake once I realized how much of a child he could be online.

Hope you feel better dude!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 19, 2022, 11:40:42 AM
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Who the fuck wants to skate like koston anyway. Thad be not great. Koston is famous because they reached the level earlier than us and for threatening homeless people of wallets.

Now we are all old we equally bad.
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I don't care for koston as a person either but i guarantee you, koston isn't as shitty at skating as 99% of us on this board at any age.
[close]

This is a messy shit post. ::)


I’m sorry I don’t feel good. I haven’t for a few months I think? I also was probably Daymaring about changing the truck I’ve been relying upon to feel semi good based on the modification of someone who historically has a poor pushing style.

I enjoy his Photos and his tricks are incredible.

I love the GG Allin edit. It was an exaggeration of what all me and mine thought about Koston’s style. What was the chimp on this? I can’t remember.

Sloppy af between hammers. Just this time he was saying fuck you only tricks matter.

That’s the era. Only tricks matter.

I’ve never felt like that.

If anyones feeling are hurt it’s not my intention. Im kinda a style snob.

I love all skateboarding. I’m way more critical of my own than others believe me. I’ve quit like 20 or more times because I’d have outer body experience see myself and want to hang it up.
 
I’ve focused boards going to package store because I didn’t like how Gross I felt. Come back all relapsed and high holding my trucks.

I was hated by other skaters in my youth because it was the only art I had from 83-like 95 when I joined the other illegal activity of bombing.

You should hear what I got to say about popular graffiti writers.

Especially that wack LA style that looks like it’s made of chewed bubblegum.

Or that horrendous SC style with all the whips and shit.

That’s like the jazz push to me.  Some wack frickin no style shit
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I love when you write these, perfect.


And Koston’s push was the real forecast.
I do find myself cheering for him these days, looking better on board, it’s nice to see.

Thanks I’m feeling like I can’t explain my feelings lately and been deleting post.

I appreciate you
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 19, 2022, 11:45:49 AM
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Who the fuck wants to skate like koston anyway. Thad be not great. Koston is famous because they reached the level earlier than us and for threatening homeless people of wallets.

Now we are all old we equally bad.
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I don't care for koston as a person either but i guarantee you, koston isn't as shitty at skating as 99% of us on this board at any age.
[close]

This is a messy shit post. ::)


I’m sorry I don’t feel good. I haven’t for a few months I think? I also was probably Daymaring about changing the truck I’ve been relying upon to feel semi good based on the modification of someone who historically has a poor pushing style.

I enjoy his Photos and his tricks are incredible.

I love the GG Allin edit. It was an exaggeration of what all me and mine thought about Koston’s style. What was the chimp on this? I can’t remember.

Sloppy af between hammers. Just this time he was saying fuck you only tricks matter.

That’s the era. Only tricks matter.

I’ve never felt like that.

If anyones feeling are hurt it’s not my intention. Im kinda a style snob.

I love all skateboarding. I’m way more critical of my own than others believe me. I’ve quit like 20 or more times because I’d have outer body experience see myself and want to hang it up.
 
I’ve focused boards going to package store because I didn’t like how Gross I felt. Come back all relapsed and high holding my trucks.

I was hated by other skaters in my youth because it was the only art I had from 83-like 95 when I joined the other illegal activity of bombing.

You should hear what I got to say about popular graffiti writers.

Especially that wack LA style that looks like it’s made of chewed bubblegum.

Or that horrendous SC style with all the whips and shit.

That’s like the jazz push to me.  Some wack frickin no style shit
[close]

I love when you write these, perfect.


And Koston’s push was the real forecast.
I do find myself cheering for him these days, looking better on board, it’s nice to see.
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Thanks I’m feeling like I can’t explain my feelings lately and been deleting post.

I appreciate you

Well it came thru for me, and I enjoyed it.
I am sorry you have been feeling like that…I relate to that notion big time.

Who has the good push? Right now I can only think of bad ones.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on June 20, 2022, 03:57:44 AM
gino
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cosmicgypsies on June 20, 2022, 04:07:14 AM
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Who the fuck wants to skate like koston anyway. Thad be not great. Koston is famous because they reached the level earlier than us and for threatening homeless people of wallets.

Now we are all old we equally bad.
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I don't care for koston as a person either but i guarantee you, koston isn't as shitty at skating as 99% of us on this board at any age.
[close]

This is a messy shit post. ::)


I’m sorry I don’t feel good. I haven’t for a few months I think? I also was probably Daymaring about changing the truck I’ve been relying upon to feel semi good based on the modification of someone who historically has a poor pushing style.

I enjoy his Photos and his tricks are incredible.

I love the GG Allin edit. It was an exaggeration of what all me and mine thought about Koston’s style. What was the chimp on this? I can’t remember.

Sloppy af between hammers. Just this time he was saying fuck you only tricks matter.

That’s the era. Only tricks matter.

I’ve never felt like that.

If anyones feeling are hurt it’s not my intention. Im kinda a style snob.

I love all skateboarding. I’m way more critical of my own than others believe me. I’ve quit like 20 or more times because I’d have outer body experience see myself and want to hang it up.
 
I’ve focused boards going to package store because I didn’t like how Gross I felt. Come back all relapsed and high holding my trucks.

I was hated by other skaters in my youth because it was the only art I had from 83-like 95 when I joined the other illegal activity of bombing.

You should hear what I got to say about popular graffiti writers.

Especially that wack LA style that looks like it’s made of chewed bubblegum.

Or that horrendous SC style with all the whips and shit.


That’s like the jazz push to me.  Some wack frickin no style shit

i would love to hear your takes on antistyle/eurostyle/backjump styles ie astro fills and whatnot, or london/uk styles. for me the absolute pinnacle would be london 90s-early 2000s when it was just huge chrome dubs, basic lettering etc - fume, zonk, cosa, zomby, teach, vamp etc.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fernando the skater on June 20, 2022, 12:51:13 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CfCBSoxFjnB/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on June 20, 2022, 01:05:33 PM
Only the best….it would be sick if these brands just made their own tool.  Why leave it to silver? 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Jonny7.5Alive on June 20, 2022, 01:55:02 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CfCBSoxFjnB/

Sick
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 20, 2022, 02:13:21 PM
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Who the fuck wants to skate like koston anyway. Thad be not great. Koston is famous because they reached the level earlier than us and for threatening homeless people of wallets.

Now we are all old we equally bad.
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I don't care for koston as a person either but i guarantee you, koston isn't as shitty at skating as 99% of us on this board at any age.
[close]

This is a messy shit post. ::)


I’m sorry I don’t feel good. I haven’t for a few months I think? I also was probably Daymaring about changing the truck I’ve been relying upon to feel semi good based on the modification of someone who historically has a poor pushing style.

I enjoy his Photos and his tricks are incredible.

I love the GG Allin edit. It was an exaggeration of what all me and mine thought about Koston’s style. What was the chimp on this? I can’t remember.

Sloppy af between hammers. Just this time he was saying fuck you only tricks matter.

That’s the era. Only tricks matter.

I’ve never felt like that.

If anyones feeling are hurt it’s not my intention. Im kinda a style snob.

I love all skateboarding. I’m way more critical of my own than others believe me. I’ve quit like 20 or more times because I’d have outer body experience see myself and want to hang it up.
 
I’ve focused boards going to package store because I didn’t like how Gross I felt. Come back all relapsed and high holding my trucks.

I was hated by other skaters in my youth because it was the only art I had from 83-like 95 when I joined the other illegal activity of bombing.

You should hear what I got to say about popular graffiti writers.

Especially that wack LA style that looks like it’s made of chewed bubblegum.

Or that horrendous SC style with all the whips and shit.


That’s like the jazz push to me.  Some wack frickin no style shit
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i would love to hear your takes on antistyle/eurostyle/backjump styles ie astro fills and whatnot, or london/uk styles. for me the absolute pinnacle would be london 90s-early 2000s when it was just huge chrome dubs, basic lettering etc - fume, zonk, cosa, zomby, teach, vamp etc.

I love that era for sure. I assume it’s probably in the spirit of what I did.

I love this one modern UK writer.  Aroe roids. I think they one person.

They are doing what I quit doing 100 but in that pop MSK marvel universe color palette.

Today I just walk up to a wall and do whatever I can with stock rusto cans usually. No real plans. Random nom de plume.

If I think about it I won’t have fun.

To me the act was everything. Also writing kinda destroyed my life.

I guess if I could look like another writer I’d probably pick Virus?

They kinda tick all the boxes for me. Especially the fills.

If I was trying not to look like someone it’s be Revok. or those two kids from Chicago I was always getting compared to when I was going hard.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on June 20, 2022, 02:23:02 PM
The Canadian Virus?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 20, 2022, 10:07:27 PM
The Canadian Virus?

Yes


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 20, 2022, 10:19:38 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/gyJBrZb/0-AE4-BB30-EA44-4-CC7-8-C80-9-B8-F10-C46-A9-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CBQTwKp)

This isn’t the one. The extra piece I’m thinking of is a freight. Has a matching tars piece. I have it in a mag.

This is basically the style tho. The fill in is what hits me the most. It’s like in some scoobie doo colours.

It’s how it all works together. Kinda like wane cod part etc.

I like target imok.  I tfp fba. Ris aok.

I’m probably going to get back into no outline styles soon tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 20, 2022, 10:26:29 PM
One more monumental piece for the venture thread.


This fill in is almost perfection. The light colour box that was created in the seraph of the S is the eyesore. Vox CBS is an LAxHC skate legend. 

(https://i.ibb.co/569PSZ7/C3522-FAD-43-CD-4-A18-8-C27-09-BCF4-C26-C57.jpg) (https://ibb.co/R9Sqs85)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thanksgiving on June 20, 2022, 11:44:36 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/gyJBrZb/0-AE4-BB30-EA44-4-CC7-8-C80-9-B8-F10-C46-A9-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CBQTwKp)

This isn’t the one. The extra piece I’m thinking of is a freight. Has a matching tars piece. I have it in a mag.

This is basically the style tho. The fill in is what hits me the most. It’s like in some scoobie doo colours.

It’s how it all works together. Kinda like wane cod part etc.

I like target imok.  I tfp fba. Ris aok.

I’m probably going to get back into no outline styles soon tho.

aa crew is the shit. got lost on a hike a while back and ended up coming across a wall of theirs completely randomly.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on July 11, 2022, 02:26:38 PM
bumping this thread due to the Ace threads getting hella love lol
as much as i enjoi riding my af1s and the fact they're especially great for mall grabbing  8)

i think i land more tricks consistently on ventures so i think i'm gonna go back to them and revisit the aces later (or skate them depending on the spot, works great for rockridge curbs)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on July 11, 2022, 04:19:09 PM
bumping this thread due to the Ace threads getting hella love lol
as much as i enjoi riding my af1s and the fact they're especially great for mall grabbing  8)

i think i land more tricks consistently on ventures so i think i'm gonna go back to them and revisit the aces later (or skate them depending on the spot, works great for rockridge curbs)

I skate venture 5.2 lo’s.
Love them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on July 11, 2022, 05:02:32 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/gyJBrZb/0-AE4-BB30-EA44-4-CC7-8-C80-9-B8-F10-C46-A9-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CBQTwKp)

This isn’t the one. The extra piece I’m thinking of is a freight. Has a matching tars piece. I have it in a mag.

This is basically the style tho. The fill in is what hits me the most. It’s like in some scoobie doo colours.

It’s how it all works together. Kinda like wane cod part etc.

I like target imok.  I tfp fba. Ris aok.

I’m probably going to get back into no outline styles soon tho.
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aa crew is the shit. got lost on a hike a while back and ended up coming across a wall of theirs completely randomly.

Definitely some skate connections….I think he kinda got started with Colin Mckays brother Casey (Aero?), has done graphics for Skull, Menu….

I think I mentioned it, I was on ace lo’s and the pop was anemic.  I set up all my old parts to give away including my old ventures.  Was going to skate an asphalt spot and didn’t want to fuck up my new board, skated the old,one and had one of my better games of skate so I switched back to ventures….I’ve come to value the hi’s as well.  They fit an 8.25 board well. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 20, 2022, 05:25:58 AM
I was overthinking which deck to put on with my venture hollow lights way too much. Was reading FA decks don’t go well with them, but they absolutely do.

8“ trucks with 8.18 deck. Skates perfect.
Will try GX 8.125 next and then decide what I like more and stick to one of them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Jonny7.5Alive on July 20, 2022, 05:30:33 AM
I was overthinking which deck to put on with my venture hollow lights way too much. Was reading FA decks don’t go well with them, but they absolutely do.

8“ trucks with 8.18 deck. Skates perfect.
Will try GX 8.125 next and then decide what I like more and stick to one of them.

Dude FA goes the best with Venture
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 20, 2022, 06:06:06 AM
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I was overthinking which deck to put on with my venture hollow lights way too much. Was reading FA decks don’t go well with them, but they absolutely do.

8“ trucks with 8.18 deck. Skates perfect.
Will try GX 8.125 next and then decide what I like more and stick to one of them.
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Dude FA goes the best with Venture

I was reading different , about v hollow lights. Some people say fa is too steep for them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on July 20, 2022, 06:18:34 AM
After riding Thunders the past few years, finally tried some Venture highs for the first time.  I rode Venture lows exclusively in the 90s and 2000's.  That muscle memory came right back - I'm guessing it is the heft and the extended wheelbase.  My flip tricks felt snappier and cleaner than they ever have on Thunders, like they rise and smack the bottom of my feet.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 20, 2022, 01:21:58 PM
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I was overthinking which deck to put on with my venture hollow lights way too much. Was reading FA decks don’t go well with them, but they absolutely do.

8“ trucks with 8.18 deck. Skates perfect.
Will try GX 8.125 next and then decide what I like more and stick to one of them.
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Dude FA goes the best with Venture
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I was reading different , about v hollow lights. Some people say fa is too steep for them.



Anybody knows the weight of tve v-hollow og 5.2?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 20, 2022, 01:50:35 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/gyJBrZb/0-AE4-BB30-EA44-4-CC7-8-C80-9-B8-F10-C46-A9-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CBQTwKp)

This isn’t the one. The extra piece I’m thinking of is a freight. Has a matching tars piece. I have it in a mag.

This is basically the style tho. The fill in is what hits me the most. It’s like in some scoobie doo colours.

It’s how it all works together. Kinda like wane cod part etc.

I like target imok.  I tfp fba. Ris aok.

I’m probably going to get back into no outline styles soon tho.
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aa crew is the shit. got lost on a hike a while back and ended up coming across a wall of theirs completely randomly.
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Definitely some skate connections….I think he kinda got started with Colin Mckays brother Casey (Aero?), has done graphics for Skull, Menu….

I think I mentioned it, I was on ace lo’s and the pop was anemic.  I set up all my old parts to give away including my old ventures.  Was going to skate an asphalt spot and didn’t want to fuck up my new board, skated the old,one and had one of my better games of skate so I switched back to ventures….I’ve come to value the hi’s as well.  They fit an 8.25 board well.

That’s cool. I seen aero. Might have been opposite side of this kwest burner I flicked in 2012
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on July 20, 2022, 01:53:04 PM
I was overthinking which deck to put on with my venture hollow lights way too much. Was reading FA decks don’t go well with them, but they absolutely do.

8“ trucks with 8.18 deck. Skates perfect.
Will try GX 8.125 next and then decide what I like more and stick to one of them.

been riding 5.2 lows with FA 8.18 or PS stix 8.125" for the past 3 years and it doesn't get any better for me. or at least I aint willing to mess with it anymore
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PatrickSkateman on July 20, 2022, 06:33:04 PM
Why do Ventures get so rigid and creaky? I haven’t had a pair that hasn’t done this.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 20, 2022, 06:54:42 PM
Why do Ventures get so rigid and creaky? I haven’t had a pair that hasn’t done this.

How broken in are the trucks? The bushings do take longer than most brands but even brand new I've not had them creaky, just a little stiff on the turn.

Ventures with a titanium axle and cast baseplates are the truth, opens them up to more decks with WB wider than 14.25. Decided not to be a knob and just tighten down the axle nuts instead of trying to ride them loose-y goose-y. Kickflips are feeling consistent again.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PatrickSkateman on July 20, 2022, 06:56:01 PM
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Why do Ventures get so rigid and creaky? I haven’t had a pair that hasn’t done this.
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How broken in are the trucks? The bushings do take longer than most brands but even brand new I've not had them creaky, just a little stiff on the turn.

Ventures with a titanium axle and cast baseplates are the truth, opens them up to more decks with WB wider than 14.25. Decided not to be a knob and just tighten down the axle nuts instead of trying to ride them loose-y goose-y. Kickflips are feeling consistent again.

I always tighten them 2-3 rotations when they’re brand new.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 21, 2022, 06:46:47 AM
Do you feel a difference if you skate 2mm bigger/smaller wheels ?

I skate 52 mm usually , but thinking about getting 54 mm. What difference does it make to you?

I skate v hollow light ventures and FA decks currently.
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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on July 21, 2022, 07:25:15 AM
Do you feel a difference if you skate 2mm bigger/smaller wheels ?

I skate 52 mm usually , but thinking about getting 54 mm. What difference does it make to you?

I skate v hollow light ventures and FA decks currently.
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your pop timing will change and you may be more prone to wheelbite (depending on how loose you ride), but it's something you can adjust to and/or will get used to. I typically skate 52-53 mm and whenever they wear down to ~50, setting up 53 mm can be a little jarring at first, but typically i get used to the bigger wheels in like 2-3 sessions. its also nice to be able to roll over things easier and maintain speed for longer
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on July 21, 2022, 07:39:13 AM
Thx. I think I’ll get 53 mm too.

How long do you skate your wheels?
I mostly skate super slick park ground
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on July 21, 2022, 08:04:57 AM
Why do Ventures get so rigid and creaky? I haven’t had a pair that hasn’t done this.

i've blamed my pivot cups for this with the reasoning that the truck just jams in there and the stock dry plastic cup seize it.
recently did a bit of traveling to some pretty toasty places and my wax finally ran it's course and i now have the pivot noise
people have briefly mentioned riptide cups, so i'm curious if they eventually get said creaks and rigidity???
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on July 21, 2022, 09:24:05 AM
Thx. I think I’ll get 53 mm too.

How long do you skate your wheels?
I mostly skate super slick park ground
typically 2-4 months, it varies depending on the shape. a conical full will wear down much slower than a classic
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on July 22, 2022, 09:12:42 AM
has anyone experience with these?

(https://media.titus.de/media/image/e9/83/e7/venture-lenkgummis-loose-trucks-conversion-kit-90a-clear-green-vorderansicht-0199256.jpg)

https://www.titus.de/venture-lenkgummis-loose-trucks-conversion-kit-90a-clear-green-0199256/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 22, 2022, 09:42:41 AM
has anyone experience with these?

(https://media.titus.de/media/image/e9/83/e7/venture-lenkgummis-loose-trucks-conversion-kit-90a-clear-green-vorderansicht-0199256.jpg)

https://www.titus.de/venture-lenkgummis-loose-trucks-conversion-kit-90a-clear-green-0199256/

Soon for sure.

It’s time for me to cut some purps so I’m just going to cop these on Monday
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: southphillytapwater on July 22, 2022, 05:51:18 PM
has anyone experience with these?

(https://media.titus.de/media/image/e9/83/e7/venture-lenkgummis-loose-trucks-conversion-kit-90a-clear-green-vorderansicht-0199256.jpg)

https://www.titus.de/venture-lenkgummis-loose-trucks-conversion-kit-90a-clear-green-0199256/
I have them with a bones flat washer and I love how they feel. With the bolt flush with the kingpin, they're wobbly loose. But you can tighten them down to your preference. I have mine at a pretty medium looseness and they're still far looser than you can get with the stock bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on July 22, 2022, 05:56:25 PM
has anyone experience with these?

(https://media.titus.de/media/image/e9/83/e7/venture-lenkgummis-loose-trucks-conversion-kit-90a-clear-green-vorderansicht-0199256.jpg)

https://www.titus.de/venture-lenkgummis-loose-trucks-conversion-kit-90a-clear-green-0199256/

If you want a floppy-feeling Venture Lo, these are the ticket. Personally, I think you need to crank them down too far for them to work right on a Venture Hi. The greens just make them very loose.

I prefer the clear Deluxe 88s or the white Riptide 87s in the Hi model.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 23, 2022, 04:24:22 AM
has anyone experience with these?


https://www.titus.de/venture-lenkgummis-loose-trucks-conversion-kit-90a-clear-green-0199256/


They work well on two fronts:


1.  For those who want a much looser truck, even just a bit more loose than what can be achieved with the normal top bushing, or tighten down to where they work for you.

2.  For those who have grinded down the hanger to the point where the kingpin is sitting too high and they need a lower top bushing to keep a nut on.


For both of these options, put them on and tighten the kingpin nut down to where you need them and gently angle grind or machine off the top of the kingpin to suit the height of the new arrangement, if you don't like kingpin sitting up.  It works well and adds a lot more clearance on any kingpin from any brand of truck.  I could still get the nut on and off easily after doing this, but just be careful in doing it and don't over heat the kingpin in the process as it can cook the bushings.


*  I could have said 3.  For those who really just want green bushings, which is a valid point, but that doesn't really come into it here and now.


I have a supply of the Indy bushings with low heads, which do the same job and have used them for a long time in a lot of trucks, never having an issue with them or where the kingpin sits, but definitely have used an angle grinder on a lot of kingpins to make them work better in all situations.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Knee Pain on July 28, 2022, 02:48:30 PM
What other bushings besides supercush work well in ventures? I don’t like the bones ones.

I can’t find any supercush ones in the UK at the moment.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on July 28, 2022, 03:56:11 PM
What other bushings besides supercush work well in ventures? I don’t like the bones ones.

I can’t find any supercush ones in the UK at the moment.
Indy aftermarket bushings with the barrel bottoms should work just fine. Get your desired duro, but avoid the red ones as many Slappers have said they feel way harder than advertised.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on July 29, 2022, 01:34:10 AM
I'm looking for lows. This shop is the only one that has them I stock in my city

It doesn't specify if they are high or low in the shop listing though. I've also asked the shop twice with no reply.

Anyway to tell if they're high or low ?

https://www.tacticsurf.es/skateboard/ejes-skate/ejes-skate-venture-v-hollow-all-pol-5-25?sort=pd.name&order=AS
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 29, 2022, 04:21:09 AM
I'm looking for lows. This shop is the only one that has them I stock in my city

It doesn't specify if they are high or low in the shop listing though. I've also asked the shop twice with no reply.

Anyway to tell if they're high or low ?

https://www.tacticsurf.es/skateboard/ejes-skate/ejes-skate-venture-v-hollow-all-pol-5-25?sort=pd.name&order=AS



Most shops will not list anything other than width if they are regular height or normal trucks, so those would be the normal trucks.  They usually specify if they are low nowdays.

I really don't recall seeing many around, but I guess there are always some places like Titus that have some of the 5.2 polished hollow Ventures in stock, other shops maybe not the hollow version though.

When I put in "Venture low" in the search for that place those were the only ones that came up, just "Venture" brought up all the rest, so they could actually be the low ones.  Pic looks like the low ones, but who knows.


***** Also on one other listing, price is per single truck, so is that super expensive then for those ones?


Shop listings:


https://www.titus-shop.com/en/venture-truck-5.2-low-v-hollow-all-polished-0121419/?gtp=s

https://www.titus-shop.com/en/venture-truck-5.2-low-all-polished-0120978/

https://www.paradeworld.com/uk/products/venture-52-low-v-light-all-polished-trucks-pair-3-4471912235078/

https://www.routeone.co.uk/products/venture-v-hollow-5-2-low-skateboard-trucks


https://venturetrucks.net/


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on July 29, 2022, 09:20:24 AM
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I'm looking for lows. This shop is the only one that has them I stock in my city

It doesn't specify if they are high or low in the shop listing though. I've also asked the shop twice with no reply.

Anyway to tell if they're high or low ?

https://www.tacticsurf.es/skateboard/ejes-skate/ejes-skate-venture-v-hollow-all-pol-5-25?sort=pd.name&order=AS
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Most shops will not list anything other than width if they are regular height or normal trucks, so those would be the normal trucks.  They usually specify if they are low nowdays.

I really don't recall seeing many around, but I guess there are always some places like Titus that have some of the 5.2 polished hollow Ventures in stock, other shops maybe not the hollow version though.

When I put in "Venture low" in the search for that place those were the only ones that came up, just "Venture" brought up all the rest, so they could actually be the low ones.  Pic looks like the low ones, but who knows.


***** Also on one other listing, price is per single truck, so is that super expensive then for those ones?


Shop listings:


https://www.titus-shop.com/en/venture-truck-5.2-low-v-hollow-all-polished-0121419/?gtp=s

https://www.titus-shop.com/en/venture-truck-5.2-low-all-polished-0120978/

https://www.paradeworld.com/uk/products/venture-52-low-v-light-all-polished-trucks-pair-3-4471912235078/

https://www.routeone.co.uk/products/venture-v-hollow-5-2-low-skateboard-trucks


https://venturetrucks.net/

I've come to find the lows have red bushings and the high purple. But of course the listing doesn't show the bushings lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on July 29, 2022, 10:06:46 AM
What other bushings besides supercush work well in ventures? I don’t like the bones ones.

I can’t find any supercush ones in the UK at the moment.

ACE [classic] Lows (yes lows, I was surprised the bottom bushing didn't throw anything off).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 29, 2022, 07:17:05 PM

I've come to find the lows have red bushings and the high purple. But of course the listing doesn't show the bushings lol

Ha yeah, that is true.

I often forget that, but with all the older Ventures I have floating around, that is the case.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on July 29, 2022, 08:43:32 PM
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What other bushings besides supercush work well in ventures? I don’t like the bones ones.

I can’t find any supercush ones in the UK at the moment.
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ACE [classic] Lows (yes lows, I was surprised the bottom bushing didn't throw anything off).

Literally just put some Ace Low bushings in my Ventures today. Really unlocks them to be a super fun truck, in my opinion. Great combo. I think mine are AF1 Low bushings, too, not Classics.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 29, 2022, 09:15:41 PM
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What other bushings besides supercush work well in ventures? I don’t like the bones ones.

I can’t find any supercush ones in the UK at the moment.
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Indy aftermarket bushings with the barrel bottoms should work just fine. Get your desired duro, but avoid the red ones as many Slappers have said they feel way harder than advertised.

I second that. I usually do genuine indy parts or whatever.

Always works out fine. 
The white super soft are like a bones soft except in like dead ass winter then it don’t matter what bushing duro you got.

I like my purple but I’d definitely buy these if I could remember when I got bread.

Buying lower bushings is a no no and a half rn. The green is super difficult to say no to too. Lol

I don’t understand why green isn’t ever around when I stock up on trucks. It’s almost always purple or red. Sometimes I see white I think.

I’d maybe buy blue painted ventures to be like a way way way back throw back colour style.

I remember seeing mad blue ones on the big kids boards. Pretty sure Mark rode blue ones.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Knee Pain on July 30, 2022, 12:10:22 PM
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What other bushings besides supercush work well in ventures? I don’t like the bones ones.

I can’t find any supercush ones in the UK at the moment.
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Indy aftermarket bushings with the barrel bottoms should work just fine. Get your desired duro, but avoid the red ones as many Slappers have said they feel way harder than advertised.

Thanks, I’ll probably try these next then. They are always readily available in most shops.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on July 30, 2022, 03:47:13 PM
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What other bushings besides supercush work well in ventures? I don’t like the bones ones.

I can’t find any supercush ones in the UK at the moment.
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ACE [classic] Lows (yes lows, I was surprised the bottom bushing didn't throw anything off).
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Literally just put some Ace Low bushings in my Ventures today. Really unlocks them to be a super fun truck, in my opinion. Great combo. I think mine are AF1 Low bushings, too, not Classics.

Haven’t tried the af1 lows in ventures yet, but I sang praises of the ace dual duro (regular Ace bottoms and low tops) quite a few pages back, it's the only way I could skate venture; makes them sing tho. That and a flat top washer to stop the hanger binding.

The ace low bottoms.vs regular in them I couldn't tell the difference.

I just ride too loose for them to be a go-to.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on July 30, 2022, 04:54:38 PM
Just curious do any of you or any of pros skate transition on Ventures? I know Drehobl used to but I can't remember anyone else and don't know anyone that does.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on July 30, 2022, 05:02:14 PM
Just curious do any of you or any of pros skate transition on Ventures? I know Drehobl used to but I can't remember anyone else and don't know anyone that does.

John Shanahan does. He skates vert on ventures even. Kader does occasionally and I also recently saw a clip of Seven Strong skating a pool on ventures.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CZFpmTUDAM_/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CaN7fCyp0_0/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PatrickSkateman on July 30, 2022, 05:46:41 PM
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Just curious do any of you or any of pros skate transition on Ventures? I know Drehobl used to but I can't remember anyone else and don't know anyone that does.
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John Shanahan does. He skates vert on ventures even. Kader does occasionally and I also recently saw a clip of Seven Strong skating a pool on ventures.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CZFpmTUDAM_/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CaN7fCyp0_0/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Wade Speyer used to.

(https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Magazine/Covers/COVERS_THRASHER/1997/TH9707.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on July 30, 2022, 05:50:54 PM
I think the hi’s would work just fine, you can’t carve like an ace but the stability would work well. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on July 30, 2022, 06:27:05 PM
Ya I kinda think for most normal people it doesn't matter unless that is all you do and you're going so fast you need extreme surf.

Wasn't Duffy on Ventures for most of the 90's too? Now it's just me trying to remember obscure shit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: brownjenkin on July 30, 2022, 09:05:38 PM
Phil Shao was on Ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on July 30, 2022, 09:27:36 PM
Phil Shao was on Ventures

This, and Wade Speyer, aaaaaand the Dan Drehobl…I mean what more do you want?
In recent times (like the last 20-30 years) ventures do not seem to be the transition truck of choice. Yuto had done some baaaaaangers on venture lo’s, on big transitions.
Don’t see a lot of very/pool folks on thunders either. Basically all just indy/ace.



If there was a part I’d try and replicate…it might be Lavar’s in trilogy. So I skate venture lo’s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tom on July 30, 2022, 09:36:50 PM
Were Ventures in the 90’s much different? John Cardiel used to skate them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on July 31, 2022, 05:10:33 AM
Just curious do any of you or any of pros skate transition on Ventures? I know Drehobl used to but I can't remember anyone else and don't know anyone that does.
Yuto does 540s on vert with venture lows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 31, 2022, 05:27:44 AM
Were Ventures in the 90’s much different? John Cardiel used to skate them

I have what was said to be Drehobl's set of Venture trucks in 8.5 width from when he was out here in Australia a long time ago on a Think tour, which another guy or two used before they ended up grinded to axle and in my hands, but they still skated well enough.  They have six hole baseplates and USA under them, as well as a hex kingpin, so maybe 90s, more so than 00s even.

Maybe it wasn't so much how they skated as it was just the fact that they were the truck to have back then for a lot of those guys.  Indy at the time were solid, heavy and very clunky, but on the other side of things, most people rode more narrow trucks too, of those guys at least, so Venture was a good option.

Might not be the only reason, but I seem to recall Drehobl pretty much ran out of wide trucks when Venture couldn't supply any more, so ended up on Indy just to be able to ride 149s / 8.5" trucks, but there could be more to it than that.

Most of the old six hole baseplate Venture and other brand trucks still skate fine, but I think the current models of almost all brands do skate better than the older versions, if for nothing more than small tweaks to make them perform how people want them to, as well as kingpin clearance, non slip axles, baseplates that don't end up in two pieces, etc.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 31, 2022, 05:57:12 AM
Were Ventures in the 90’s much different? John Cardiel used to skate them

Answer 2:


I thought I should look into it and came up with this interesting bit of info:


https://www.basementskate.com.au/blog/2018/11/23/venture-trucks-heres-the-lowdown/


Venture Trucks first hit the market in the 1980’s and were the third brand to come out of the Ermico camp. Ermico was a manufacturer founded by Fausto Vitello. Fausto manufactured trucks for Independent & Thunder and was also involved with Thrasher, Deluxe and many other iconic San Fransisco skate brands.

Originally Venture Trucks were launched as a third tier to the other two Ermico truck brands as a price point truck. But the timing was right as there was a shift in the way skateboarders were using the streets. Ventures were lighter and soon street skateboarders took notice of this relatively unknown brand. Not long after Mark Gonzales started riding them and some of the best street skaters soon followed. The rest is history.

A new style of trucks for a new style of skateboarding.
In the early 1990’s Greg Carroll & Keith Cochrane (who along with Don Fisher ran Think Skateboards) redesigned the trucks. they launched the lower profile ‘Featherlight’ which had some new design features for the different types of street skating that were evolving.

They were the first to hit the market with a new smaller hole pattern which shifted the front truck holes back to the 53mm position. This stopped your mounting hardware from getting shredded on nose and tail slides which were getting longer and faster at the time. It was the era of big pants and small wheels and Venture Trucks had the right design for the time.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PatrickSkateman on July 31, 2022, 06:04:05 AM
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Answer 2:


I thought I should look into it and came up with this interesting bit of info:


https://www.basementskate.com.au/blog/2018/11/23/venture-trucks-heres-the-lowdown/


Venture Trucks first hit the market in the 1980’s and were the third brand to come out of the Ermico camp. Ermico was a manufacturer founded by Fausto Vitello. Fausto manufactured trucks for Independent & Thunder and was also involved with Thrasher, Deluxe and many other iconic San Fransisco skate brands.

Originally Venture Trucks were launched as a third tier to the other two Ermico truck brands as a price point truck. But the timing was right as there was a shift in the way skateboarders were using the streets. Ventures were lighter and soon street skateboarders took notice of this relatively unknown brand. Not long after Mark Gonzales started riding them and some of the best street skaters soon followed. The rest is history.

A new style of trucks for a new style of skateboarding.
In the early 1990’s Greg Carroll & Keith Cochrane (who along with Don Fisher ran Think Skateboards) redesigned the trucks. they launched the lower profile ‘Featherlight’ which had some new design features for the different types of street skating that were evolving.

They were the first to hit the market with a new smaller hole pattern which shifted the front truck holes back to the 53mm position. This stopped your mounting hardware from getting shredded on nose and tail slides which were getting longer and faster at the time. It was the era of big pants and small wheels and Venture Trucks had the right design for the time.

Featherlights were the best. Nothing beat the green bushings back then.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on July 31, 2022, 08:14:44 AM
A bit part of venture’s history is Rocco….he was the TM in the 80’s and lead it to being marketed as a street truck/gonz getting on.  They were a less bulky truck than an Indy or a gullwing.  90’s they were a super popular truck being the first to drill the holes back and first to make a lower truck, it lined up with small wheels and the boards tapering….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: carbonite on July 31, 2022, 08:24:52 AM
Just curious do any of you or any of pros skate transition on Ventures? I know Drehobl used to but I can't remember anyone else and don't know anyone that does.

yes. the 5.8's turn super good
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tonitonne on July 31, 2022, 09:39:33 AM
Anyone know where to get stock bushings? Not the loose trucks conversion kit. Mine finally blew out after half a year.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on August 01, 2022, 06:01:09 AM
Anyone know where to get stock bushings? Not the loose trucks conversion kit. Mine finally blew out after half a year.

"Deluxe supercush" kits are what fits Venture. Indy aftermarkets also work with no issue that's what I'm using currently.

https://garageskateshop.com/products/deluxe-supercush-bushings?variant=40041075572896&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyejpjNml-QIV6QaICR2uoALkEAQYBSABEgJLyvD_BwE

Looks like these guys only have the extra soft ones but those are what you want to look for.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on August 01, 2022, 07:49:38 AM
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Anyone know where to get stock bushings? Not the loose trucks conversion kit. Mine finally blew out after half a year.
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"Deluxe supercush" kits are what fits Venture. Indy aftermarkets also work with no issue that's what I'm using currently.

https://garageskateshop.com/products/deluxe-supercush-bushings?variant=40041075572896&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyejpjNml-QIV6QaICR2uoALkEAQYBSABEgJLyvD_BwE

Looks like these guys only have the extra soft ones but those are what you want to look for.

just in case - the 90a (orange) is equivalent to stock
parade has a few this one is discounted
https://www.paradeworld.com/products/deluxe-supercush-bushings-90a-orange-175-6862619574435/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tonitonne on August 01, 2022, 10:06:45 AM
Good looks guys appreciate it. I was considering doh dohs but I'm trying to stick with stock geometry.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodnews_cigjuice on August 01, 2022, 12:29:47 PM
random question but would the hangar from a v light fit the baseplate of a standard venture?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on August 01, 2022, 12:31:59 PM
random question but would the hangar from a v light fit the baseplate of a standard venture?

yes, that would just make it a standard venture
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodnews_cigjuice on August 01, 2022, 12:37:55 PM
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yes, that would just make it a standard venture
I mean the hangar with the hollow axle
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on August 01, 2022, 12:39:57 PM
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yes, that would just make it a standard venture
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I mean the hangar with the hollow axle

also yes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodnews_cigjuice on August 01, 2022, 05:04:57 PM
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yes, that would just make it a standard venture
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I mean the hangar with the hollow axle
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also yes
sweet thank you!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on August 02, 2022, 03:11:41 AM
Just curious do any of you or any of pros skate transition on Ventures? I know Drehobl used to but I can't remember anyone else and don't know anyone that does.

i'll do a lil back disaster or a front lip here and there
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: flocke on August 02, 2022, 01:01:56 PM
Just curious do any of you or any of pros skate transition on Ventures? I know Drehobl used to but I can't remember anyone else and don't know anyone that does.

there is a good clip on the venture youtube channel: https://youtu.be/WlYdT5oKN0I
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on August 02, 2022, 03:17:51 PM
manderson rides ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodnews_cigjuice on August 05, 2022, 04:17:26 PM
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yes, that would just make it a standard venture
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I mean the hangar with the hollow axle
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also yes
what if the hangar size is different? like would the axle of a 5.8 fit the baseplate of a 5.25?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on August 05, 2022, 04:50:26 PM
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random question but would the hangar from a v light fit the baseplate of a standard venture?
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yes, that would just make it a standard venture
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I mean the hangar with the hollow axle
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also yes
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what if the hangar sizes differ? would a 5.8 hangar fit a 5.25 baseplate?

It’ll work
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodnews_cigjuice on August 05, 2022, 06:07:15 PM
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random question but would the hangar from a v light fit the baseplate of a standard venture?
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yes, that would just make it a standard venture
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I mean the hangar with the hollow axle
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also yes
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what if the hangar sizes differ? would a 5.8 hangar fit a 5.25 baseplate?
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It’ll work

sweet thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 07, 2022, 07:23:00 PM

For anyone who was curious to see some old / vintage Venture trucks, I was going to post pics of the near destroyed old Venture trucks I have here, but then I found someone selling what looks like a near new set on Gumtree (Australian selling platform) and have included the link and some pics below.

Click on the pics for the bigger versions, or save them while you can, just to have pics of the older trucks.  As these had the six hole plates they are from around 1992-1998 going by what I know of those trucks.


https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/mermaid-beach/skateboards-rollerblades/vintage-skateboard-trucks/1298679577


(https://gumtreeau-res.cloudinary.com/image/private/t_$_s-l800/gumtree/8600eb2f-d4d7-4069-a1df-ff438657ca59.jpg)

(https://gumtreeau-res.cloudinary.com/image/private/t_$_s-l800/gumtree/6b8c407e-cfd2-4e2a-b2d8-a22f13362bd3.jpg)

(https://gumtreeau-res.cloudinary.com/image/private/t_$_s-l800/gumtree/042dc84b-340f-4267-b0e6-660239f1c078.jpg)

(https://gumtreeau-res.cloudinary.com/image/private/t_$_s-l800/gumtree/f4f3b3be-e149-4443-b125-aee3e64a52cb.jpg)

(https://gumtreeau-res.cloudinary.com/image/private/t_$_s-l800/gumtree/f2ed4300-8b84-48b4-9c36-91a9ab05a4a4.jpg)

(https://gumtreeau-res.cloudinary.com/image/private/t_$_s-l800/gumtree/da6f4d97-0f8c-467b-a208-c5fc09ea7389.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on August 10, 2022, 06:39:06 AM
Venture hollow lights with short tail decks opinions?

Like gx1000 8.125 or 8 inch decks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on August 10, 2022, 09:27:40 AM
Venture hollow lights with short tail decks opinions?

Like gx1000 8.125 or 8 inch decks

In my experience they will make you work for your pop.  Which isn't necessarily bad...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on August 10, 2022, 03:18:27 PM
I suppose this isn't specific to Venture but.

It the end of your axle and nut don't sit flush like here

How to you prevent your axle end getting blunted?

I won't be able to change these wheels soon

(https://i.ibb.co/VSNysy9/20220810-111717.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SnxTzTy)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on August 10, 2022, 03:26:14 PM
I suppose this isn't specific to Venture but.

It the end of your axle and nut don't sit flush like here

How to you prevent your axle end getting blunted?

I won't be able to change these wheels soon

(https://i.ibb.co/VSNysy9/20220810-111717.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SnxTzTy)

Pad the axle (outside side) with some extra washers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bbk on August 10, 2022, 06:59:10 PM
Always two washers in, one washer out, nut flush. I've been doing this since I really started to get in to skateboarding and gear, 15-20 years ago. It's the correct way to do it.


And superglue your exposed seams on your shoes.

And fuck a nike.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 10, 2022, 07:08:04 PM
I’m gonna replace my axel washers more often…..because I deserve it….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on August 10, 2022, 07:48:06 PM
Skated 6.1s on a Loveseat for a few months and loved it.. they turned great with stock bushing/flat washer but I’ve been itching to learn some new ledge tricks as it’s the most neglected part of my skating. Picked up some second hand 5.8s and they feel like they just do not turn at all. Is the geometry different?

Probably wrong thread but man I’ve ruined any chance of technical skating by sticking to wider boards and transitions, what’s the likelihood of it somehow clicking someday? Haha
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on August 10, 2022, 08:42:38 PM
Skated 6.1s on a Loveseat for a few months and loved it.. they turned great with stock bushing/flat washer but I’ve been itching to learn some new ledge tricks as it’s the most neglected part of my skating. Picked up some second hand 5.8s and they feel like they just do not turn at all. Is the geometry different?

Probably wrong thread but man I’ve ruined any chance of technical skating by sticking to wider boards and transitions, what’s the likelihood of it somehow clicking someday? Haha

I think the geometry is a little different. I’m basing that thought off of people reporting the effective wheelbase to be different from the 5.8s (if I remember correctly the 6.1s had a shorter effective wb, and that coupled with the sub 14” loveseat, I could see some turning happening). 
I always come back to ventures. That being said, I don’t really fuck with wide shit. Narrower trucks turn faster.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on August 10, 2022, 08:55:56 PM
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I suppose this isn't specific to Venture but.

It the end of your axle and nut don't sit flush like here

How to you prevent your axle end getting blunted?

I won't be able to change these wheels soon

(https://i.ibb.co/VSNysy9/20220810-111717.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SnxTzTy)
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Pad the axle (outside side) with some extra washers

I always use thicker nuts and loctite to all nuts(KP/axel/deck) on the skateboard, loctite is essential to the thicker nuts, cuz the thread won't reach to the nylon lock.

no more rethreading problem or lost a nut in the middle of the session(still bringing normal nut as a spare)

and does anyone has top bushing chewed up issue?
i skate 5.2low nut flush and weight 65kg, had to swap stock washer with bones flat ones, it works fine, and more turny.
(https://i.ibb.co/gV6KYbh/PXL-20220811-034410535.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gV6KYbh)(https://i.ibb.co/txy9zpn/PXL-20220811-034055533.jpg) (https://ibb.co/txy9zpn)
(https://i.ibb.co/nRQ38rs/PXL-20220811-034525035.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nRQ38rs)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 10, 2022, 09:45:43 PM
Lots of people have that it's the reason many run the Bones washer and is one of the things that frustrates me about them the most.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on August 11, 2022, 08:53:32 AM
Always two washers in, one washer out, nut flush. I've been doing this since I really started to get in to skateboarding and gear, 15-20 years ago. It's the correct way to do it.


And superglue your exposed seams on your shoes.

And fuck a nike.

agreed..i do the same thing..2 washers in, 1 washer out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 11, 2022, 06:06:22 PM
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I suppose this isn't specific to Venture but.

It the end of your axle and nut don't sit flush like here

How to you prevent your axle end getting blunted?

I won't be able to change these wheels soon

(https://i.ibb.co/VSNysy9/20220810-111717.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SnxTzTy)
[close]

Pad the axle (outside side) with some extra washers
[close]

I always use thicker nuts and loctite to all nuts(KP/axel/deck) on the skateboard, loctite is essential to the thicker nuts, cuz the thread won't reach to the nylon lock.

no more rethreading problem or lost a nut in the middle of the session(still bringing normal nut as a spare)

and does anyone has top bushing chewed up issue?
i skate 5.2low nut flush and weight 65kg, had to swap stock washer with bones flat ones, it works fine, and more turny.
(https://i.ibb.co/gV6KYbh/PXL-20220811-034410535.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gV6KYbh)(https://i.ibb.co/txy9zpn/PXL-20220811-034055533.jpg) (https://ibb.co/txy9zpn)
(https://i.ibb.co/nRQ38rs/PXL-20220811-034525035.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nRQ38rs)

My bushings got chewed out and had to swap them out to a fresh set of the white ones (urgh), but I'd been riding this same bushings over 3-4 different pairs of Ventures. I'd say Venture bushings start out the hardest but keep it together longest, far outlasting the Thunder stock ones.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pee nis on August 11, 2022, 06:48:55 PM
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I suppose this isn't specific to Venture but.

It the end of your axle and nut don't sit flush like here

How to you prevent your axle end getting blunted?

I won't be able to change these wheels soon

(https://i.ibb.co/VSNysy9/20220810-111717.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SnxTzTy)
[close]

Pad the axle (outside side) with some extra washers
[close]

I always use thicker nuts and loctite to all nuts(KP/axel/deck) on the skateboard, loctite is essential to the thicker nuts, cuz the thread won't reach to the nylon lock.

no more rethreading problem or lost a nut in the middle of the session(still bringing normal nut as a spare)

and does anyone has top bushing chewed up issue?
i skate 5.2low nut flush and weight 65kg, had to swap stock washer with bones flat ones, it works fine, and more turny.
(https://i.ibb.co/gV6KYbh/PXL-20220811-034410535.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gV6KYbh)(https://i.ibb.co/txy9zpn/PXL-20220811-034055533.jpg) (https://ibb.co/txy9zpn)
(https://i.ibb.co/nRQ38rs/PXL-20220811-034525035.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nRQ38rs)

I quickly destroyed the top bushing using stock washers then tried using a bones flat washer on new venture bushings thinking that was the issue and somehow still quickly destroyed the top bushing in those too. Not even too cranked down either had front truck flush and back 1 thread showing. Went back to bones hards and they’ve lasted awhile with zero issues plus turn is slightly better with the conical bottom
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on August 12, 2022, 04:07:03 AM
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Venture hollow lights with short tail decks opinions?

Like gx1000 8.125 or 8 inch decks
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In my experience they will make you work for your pop.  Which isn't necessarily bad...


Ok I’ll try. The pop with the FA is great.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 12, 2022, 01:39:10 PM
I just went through skating a palace board, flat with a short nose….no BBS pocket and a short nose, it hurt my nollies. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on August 13, 2022, 04:07:53 PM
I just went through skating a palace board, flat with a short nose….no BBS pocket and a short nose, it hurt my nollies.


Which shape? I want to try a palace. My last one from them was an Olly Todd. So a long time ago.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on August 13, 2022, 04:27:08 PM
When I skated a Lucien 8.25 recently it worked pretty decent with 5.6s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 13, 2022, 06:54:30 PM
S25…..I bought it because the wheelbase was smaller, didnt  like it though because of the short nose.  I think BBS boards fit ventures better….

I have another board from the same series and I’m going to try on ace lo’s..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on August 13, 2022, 07:29:13 PM
Thank you both.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on August 13, 2022, 07:34:28 PM
Does the loose bushing kit bring the wb in a little bit more because the bushings are lower? Also does it make the turn better or just quicker?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 13, 2022, 08:16:39 PM
Does the loose bushing kit bring the wb in a little bit more because the bushings are lower? Also does it make the turn better or just quicker?


The bottom bushing is still the same so wheelbase is not changed.

Adding any softer bushing or lower top means that they turn so much more than with stock bushings, but still not quite as small a circle as Indy or Ace when I tried them the other day, after putting on thin risers with small wheels, so I could get the absolute most out of the turn, down to about a 4m circle which is crazy to think how tight a turn that is.  Without the riser and normal sized wheels, I got wheelbite first on the low tops / looser trucks, so there is that to think about too.

If you want a lot more turn and can deal with how much the trucks move, they are good, but if you might struggle with loosey goosey wheelbite, then tightening them down more will work - just watch the kingpin clearance / catch.


Note:  I still don't have access to the green bushings here in Australia, but I usually cut down stock bushings, which are the same duro and end up about the same height.  Even just using wax on the pivot point and on the bushing contact sides will make your trucks feel so much more loose with the same stock bushings in them.  Tried that too, just to see and was very surprised how much more they turned.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lamfordie on August 15, 2022, 04:49:16 PM
I've heard that the hole on the baseplate is hexagonal shaped but most online shops don't post pics of the base. I want to get it so I can switch out the kingpin for the reverse krux ones.  So how can you tell if the truck has the hexagon shaped hole.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on August 15, 2022, 05:04:13 PM
Got a new set of 5.8s and there hollow kingpin baseplates with riptide pivots on them. As well as the new bushings. They’re noticeably lower when it comes to the kingpin and they look tighter than they really are. Love the turn on them and it they’re more responsive.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on August 15, 2022, 05:31:54 PM
Got a new set of 5.8s and there hollow kingpin baseplates with riptide pivots on them. As well as the new bushings. They’re noticeably lower when it comes to the kingpin and they look tighter than they really are. Love the turn on them and it they’re more responsive.

Wait there’s a new venture? Or these are your modifications
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on August 15, 2022, 09:10:36 PM
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Got a new set of 5.8s and there hollow kingpin baseplates with riptide pivots on them. As well as the new bushings. They’re noticeably lower when it comes to the kingpin and they look tighter than they really are. Love the turn on them and it they’re more responsive.
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Wait there’s a new venture? Or these are your modifications
They’re my mods. I got a new set of ventures to get a better feel for them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 16, 2022, 03:27:28 AM
I've heard that the hole on the baseplate is hexagonal shaped but most online shops don't post pics of the base. I want to get it so I can switch out the kingpin for the reverse krux ones.  So how can you tell if the truck has the hexagon shaped hole.


Besides going in to shops and upending some to check, the only other way is to message or call the shops and ask them individually to have a look at their stock.

I know this was the case with Thunder, so the newer Thunder team trucks I have definitely have the hex pattern under the baseplate, as of mid last year maybe, but I hadn't heard it happening with Venture yet.  Of course I don't hear that much, so if they have done it with new Ventures, all good.

The only other thing to note is some shops might be sitting on old stock (which of course would not have the new baseplate option) so you would need to ask someone who either has a good turn over of stock, or just got a new drop in, maybe if they have the most recent colourway or pro truck, I think they would me much more likely to have that new modification than any other versions.


Edit:

These guys have bottom pics.

https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/venture-trucks-m74

No hex baseplate option on any of those that I could see, but they don't look like super new stock either.

Example:

https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/skateboards-c7/skateboard-trucks-c18/lucien-clarke-pro-editions-5-2-skateboard-trucks-8-0-p59786


(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/venture-trucks-lucien-clarke-pro-editions-5-2-skateboard-trucks-8-0-p59786-136939_image.jpg)



Second edit:

I found this post with the Thunder hex baseplate, from Jan 2021 but as per the sticker on it, actually from Nov 2020, which is further back than I remember, but any which way, there still doesn't seem to be any official release with the hex / inverted option yet.  Might be a while off, or just round the corner.  Who knows.


i saw these baseplates with a shorter king pin.. the bottom of the kingpin is flush with the base plate...thunder will probably release a kingpin soon

(https://i.imgur.com/OAbG6pr.jpg)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 16, 2022, 03:33:54 AM

When I was looking through Venture pics, I noticed that there is a new truck out with the most valued "OG green bushing" look, normal stock versions.

Might not be for everyone, but they are a fairly simple looking truck so wouldn't be too bad to get, just to have those green bushings.

Available in 5.25 and 5.8 here.


Checking the Venture site, they look a lot lighter, almost yellow green in the catalog pic.

https://venturetrucks.net/summer-2022/



https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Venture_Del_Campo_Pro_Trucks/descpage-VTDCPTR.html


Click for bigger images:

(https://img.skatewarehouse.com/watermark/rs.php?path=VTDCPTR-SI-SI-2.jpg)

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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on August 16, 2022, 07:39:35 PM
any of you flat washer runners want to sell me your stock washers  8)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 16, 2022, 08:45:20 PM
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I suppose this isn't specific to Venture but.

It the end of your axle and nut don't sit flush like here

How to you prevent your axle end getting blunted?

I won't be able to change these wheels soon

(https://i.ibb.co/VSNysy9/20220810-111717.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SnxTzTy)
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Pad the axle (outside side) with some extra washers
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I always use thicker nuts and loctite to all nuts(KP/axel/deck) on the skateboard, loctite is essential to the thicker nuts, cuz the thread won't reach to the nylon lock.

no more rethreading problem or lost a nut in the middle of the session(still bringing normal nut as a spare)

and does anyone has top bushing chewed up issue?
i skate 5.2low nut flush and weight 65kg, had to swap stock washer with bones flat ones, it works fine, and more turny.
(https://i.ibb.co/gV6KYbh/PXL-20220811-034410535.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gV6KYbh)(https://i.ibb.co/txy9zpn/PXL-20220811-034055533.jpg) (https://ibb.co/txy9zpn)
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I quickly destroyed the top bushing using stock washers then tried using a bones flat washer on new venture bushings thinking that was the issue and somehow still quickly destroyed the top bushing in those too. Not even too cranked down either had front truck flush and back 1 thread showing. Went back to bones hards and they’ve lasted awhile with zero issues plus turn is slightly better with the conical bottom

im at like 3/10 bogus individual bogus bushings since 2016.
Evan Smith (pals) hooked up a set of purps and ive had two other sets work out i think.
 i test all new sets to see if they belong on ice or in the trash. i then put my favorites purps. i hope to get green lows someday but whatever.

i bet all those trucks with bogus ones are from before 2017 and might be old old stock?  i feel like that was the year the comeback began to snowball into venture2020. bet we don't see it much more. i am optimistic. i got green super crush on ice for when i finally make it to la again and sf for the first time.

gotta firm up the trucks for those hills. i need to be all green when i land at lax.
green top green risers green bushings and a vest with a stud count of 1500.

going to be sliding down those hills leaving patches of studded denim and my leather under coat.

uber ponk. im going to talk to ever skater i see. make friend with everyone. maybe get a recovery job in the bay area look for a section 8 transfer and try to work off it.

whouldnt that be the frickin beez knees. i wanna finish my life going 35mph down a hill when im 103 after playing a show at a ponk haus.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on August 17, 2022, 03:03:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/nlmOImD.png)
From the recent Venture drop. These look pretty cool. Note that the pair Bobby has/rides is the standard cast whereas the ones available to purchase are V-lights
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 17, 2022, 03:53:57 PM
All truck companies except Royal seem to do that for their pro trucks. Usually its because they can give the rider more revenue. I like that Thunder lets the riders pick and its usually the truck they actually ride.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 17, 2022, 07:48:25 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/nlmOImD.png)
From the recent Venture drop. These look pretty cool. Note that the pair Bobby has/rides is the standard cast whereas the ones available to purchase are V-lights

All this and still no 5.6 Low, SMH
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 17, 2022, 09:00:22 PM
Maybe we’ll have to settle for a mid….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bryan on August 19, 2022, 06:17:28 AM
Maybe we’ll have to settle for a mid….

I feel like this is why koston drilled his baseplates back, wide mid/hi truck height but low truck pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 19, 2022, 11:10:50 AM
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Maybe we’ll have to settle for a mid….
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I feel like this is why koston drilled his baseplates back, wide mid/hi truck height but low truck pop.

anyone know what shape he rides? he might be on a 14.25 wb so he redrilled.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bryan on August 19, 2022, 02:54:12 PM
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Maybe we’ll have to settle for a mid….
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I feel like this is why koston drilled his baseplates back, wide mid/hi truck height but low truck pop.
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anyone know what shape he rides? he might be on a 14.25 wb so he redrilled.

Anything is possible. On indy, they released the now defunct indy lows as his signature truck. If Ace can do it, surely they can put out venture low 5.6-6.1.

Redrilled baseplates aren't the worst idea (thunder once put out bottom bushings sliced x 4 to change the bottom bushing height; 4=norm, 3=low), long axle wb + low and short axle wb + hi could be a similar pop to thunder or ace at 53.5 but worse turn + less wbite.

When venture went from street corner to deluxe they also changed the baseplate holes. Street corner = Deluxe cast height + forged hole position.

here's the best pic i seen of the redrill, except on a 9" egg with a <14" wb.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1154/7998/products/Kostonstreetlog1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1657223387
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on August 19, 2022, 03:36:39 PM
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Maybe we’ll have to settle for a mid….
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I feel like this is why koston drilled his baseplates back, wide mid/hi truck height but low truck pop.
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anyone know what shape he rides? he might be on a 14.25 wb so he redrilled.
The G027 was his shape.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bbk on August 19, 2022, 07:22:21 PM
The pop angle is too damn steep on ventures. How do you do it?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GT on August 19, 2022, 07:47:26 PM
The pop angle is too damn steep on ventures. How do you do it?

Fingers of flat, mellow kicks, venture lows....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 19, 2022, 11:07:35 PM
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The pop angle is too damn steep on ventures. How do you do it?
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Fingers of flat, mellow kicks, venture lows....

Short wheelbase decks, 14.25 is the absolute limit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 19, 2022, 11:29:49 PM
Pop off the pockets….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 19, 2022, 11:35:49 PM
Pop off the pockets….

i mean thats like the best advice you can give someone in skating. i rarely use the tip of my tail for tricks. i usualy pop heel side pocket so i can get the board flipping right in front of me. unless bs flip then its the opposite.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: brownjenkin on August 20, 2022, 10:31:02 AM
Heard a little rumor that venture might adjust where their baseplate holes are drilled to make installation easier and bring in the WB a bit. Essentially sliding them up. Not 100% sure on the validity or when it would be though.

If this actually happened, I'd switch to Venture permanently. Venture would work on way more boards for me if the WB was brought in a bit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 20, 2022, 03:29:52 PM
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Pop off the pockets….
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i mean thats like the best advice you can give someone in skating. i rarely use the tip of my tail for tricks. i usualy pop heel side pocket so i can get the board flipping right in front of me. unless bs flip then its the opposite.

I actually more so meant pop off your pocket and your pocket is now closer to your bolts…,
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bbk on August 21, 2022, 06:05:47 PM
I always pop deep down on switch and nollie. It takes too long to hit the nose and it makes me sad.

I have a whole bunch of other trucks so I'm good, I just wish I could nollie flip my ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 21, 2022, 09:21:03 PM
I'm confused why can't you nollie flip them?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SwitchBigspinflipBoneless on August 21, 2022, 10:50:59 PM
I'm skating Venture Lights 5.6 Hi, and recently my front truck has been loosening by itself every session.

Will go from perfect tightness to so loose can unscrew it by hand over an hour or two.  Have to keep tightening it up through the session and it's really throwing me off.

Anyone had this issue before & know a fix?  Theyre not heavily used so not sure why this is happening
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on August 22, 2022, 01:01:35 AM
I'm skating Venture Lights 5.6 Hi, and recently my front truck has been loosening by itself every session.

Will go from perfect tightness to so loose can unscrew it by hand over an hour or two.  Have to keep tightening it up through the session and it's really throwing me off.

Anyone had this issue before & know a fix?  Theyre not heavily used so not sure why this is happening

Try a new nut? If it doesn’t work try some thread lock (Loctite or other).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bbk on August 22, 2022, 08:09:14 AM
I'm confused why can't you nollie flip them?
The steeper pop angle.
I can do it, it's just doesn't feel nice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 22, 2022, 10:28:47 AM
Makes sense, that's why I gave up on Venture. Just prefer a shallower pop angle but not a mellow deck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 22, 2022, 07:38:27 PM
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I'm skating Venture Lights 5.6 Hi, and recently my front truck has been loosening by itself every session.

Will go from perfect tightness to so loose can unscrew it by hand over an hour or two.  Have to keep tightening it up through the session and it's really throwing me off.

Anyone had this issue before & know a fix?  Theyre not heavily used so not sure why this is happening
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Try a new nut? If it doesn’t work try some thread lock (Loctite or other).

How are the bushings on the trucks? Mine were pretty mashed and torn, kept loosening throughout the session or when I was riding over rough ground I could hear them rattle loose. Swapped to fresh bushings from another pair of Ventures and stuck a new axle nut on top, right as rain.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on August 23, 2022, 07:41:11 AM
Can someone give me some feedback on the titaniums? I ride 8.18-8.25.  Looking for ways to get a bit more snap. 

Currently ride 5.6 with 54mm Spitfire LL.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on August 23, 2022, 09:38:14 AM
Can someone give me some feedback on the titaniums? I ride 8.18-8.25.  Looking for ways to get a bit more snap. 

Currently ride 5.6 with 54mm Spitfire LL.
mind explaining what you mean about more snap? like do you want the tail to hit the ground quicker?

the forged plates that come with the hollow options & titanium will make your setup lower and you'll get a more quicker "responsive" snap. i'm currently running Ti hanger on cast plates and i've been enjoying that. I personally like the height of cast plates, but I didn't have any major complaints with the forged plates. another thing to keep in mind is that forged plates will extend your wb and make your tail feel shorter, but I guess that's counteracted by the lower height. so pop feel shouldn't feel too different theoretically lol

if you want more pop, I don't think changing your trucks to a lighter model will grant you that tbh or is worth the trouble of breaking in new trucks, etc.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on August 23, 2022, 04:51:30 PM
Thanks man. Good thorough response.  It sounds like I didn’t do enough research. Sounds like the Ti’s are only available in the Low” model.  Not in the 5.6.   I like everything about the 5.6.  I ride my trucks really loose.  I feel like the 5.6 help accomplish this level of looseness.  I run a bones medium lower bushing with the standard purple venture too bushing. Only the thin washer up top. 

I realized since I went looser on the trucks I get less ankle injuries.  Not sure if there is correlation between the two.  Maybe it’s all mental.  But isn’t it all?

I thought maybe the material or marginal weight savings might provide more responsiveness / snap when popping etc. sounds like that’s not the case.

Would be a fun study to have Ti’s, on a impact light or Girl Pop secret board.  Be fun to try. 

Thanks for the feedback. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 23, 2022, 05:44:05 PM
I went from the lites to hollows, no difference…..I’d maybe look at the kicks…what board are you skating? 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 23, 2022, 05:45:38 PM

It sounds like I didn’t do enough research. Sounds like the Ti’s are only available in the Low” model.  Not in the 5.6.



https://venturetrucks.net/


To reference the truck info, it is actually the other way round.

Whenever there is nothing after the number (size) they are the regular / hi / normal height trucks, so Ti axle hangers only come in the regular option.  The only reason there is the text "5.2 hi" is because the smaller sizes come in hi and lo whereas everything else from 5.6 and up only come in regular height.

Again sorry if this sounds like I am being "Mr know it all" but I have had this question a lot from a shop perspective.


(https://www.venturetrucks.net/fall22/04-ve-fl22-d1-polished.jpg)




Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 23, 2022, 07:02:13 PM
Thanks man. Good thorough response.  It sounds like I didn’t do enough research. Sounds like the Ti’s are only available in the Low” model.  Not in the 5.6.   I like everything about the 5.6.  I ride my trucks really loose.  I feel like the 5.6 help accomplish this level of looseness.  I run a bones medium lower bushing with the standard purple venture too bushing. Only the thin washer up top. 

I realized since I went looser on the trucks I get less ankle injuries.  Not sure if there is correlation between the two.  Maybe it’s all mental.  But isn’t it all?

I thought maybe the material or marginal weight savings might provide more responsiveness / snap when popping etc. sounds like that’s not the case.

Would be a fun study to have Ti’s, on a impact light or Girl Pop secret board.  Be fun to try. 

Thanks for the feedback.

Forged baseplate Ventures with the G052 shape is the shit.

G052:
8.25" x 31.875"
Wheelbase: 14"
Nose: 6.875"
Tail: 6.8"

If you're going with a Pop Secret then I'd go with the V-Hollow or Titanium since those decks are hefty. Most of the time price of Titanium isn't worth the weight savings, but if it will scratch the itch and you've got the money then go for it. Loving them in 5.6 and 5.8.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on August 23, 2022, 09:01:30 PM
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It sounds like I didn’t do enough research. Sounds like the Ti’s are only available in the Low” model.  Not in the 5.6.

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https://venturetrucks.net/

Again sorry if this sounds like I am being "Mr know it all" but I have had this question a lot from a shop perspective.


(https://www.venturetrucks.net/fall22/04-ve-fl22-d1-polished.jpg)

No way man. Appreciate the banter.  Good to know as trucks can get really confusing.  I’m riding.  I ride a 303 board shop BBS/Generator.  8.25.  Absolutely love their shops decks.  Quality for sure. Prior to I had Frog / FA pretty consistently.   

I’ll probably splurge.  Would be rad if I could buy just the Ti base plate. I used to road cycle pretty hard and we would cut it all down to grams with carbon bits.  Get a really light bike.  I’ve thought about trying it in skating. I doubt it works the same. Figure as I age less mass to throw around might help.  Hardware, axle end nuts, etc. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on August 23, 2022, 10:47:24 PM
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It sounds like I didn’t do enough research. Sounds like the Ti’s are only available in the Low” model.  Not in the 5.6.

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https://venturetrucks.net/

Again sorry if this sounds like I am being "Mr know it all" but I have had this question a lot from a shop perspective.


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No way man. Appreciate the banter.  Good to know as trucks can get really confusing.  I’m riding.  I ride a 303 board shop BBS/Generator.  8.25.  Absolutely love their shops decks.  Quality for sure. Prior to I had Frog / FA pretty consistently.   

I’ll probably splurge.  Would be rad if I could buy just the Ti base plate. I used to road cycle pretty hard and we would cut it all down to grams with carbon bits.  Get a really light bike.  I’ve thought about trying it in skating. I doubt it works the same. Figure as I age less mass to throw around might help.  Hardware, axle end nuts, etc.

Only thing titanium in the Ti trucks is the axle. The hanger is otherwise the same. The baseplate is forged aluminum with a hollow steel kingpin like in V-hollow & V-lights. So you could go cheaper and just get either of those. Unfortunately I think only Indy is selling baseplates separately and only the standard & standard mid versions.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 23, 2022, 10:47:37 PM
It’s all the same baseplates less the team edition….it’s just a titanium axel…..

BBS shop board on ventures is a pretty mellow ride…but maybe something with more fingers of flat might mellow it out further….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on August 24, 2022, 12:24:57 AM
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It sounds like I didn’t do enough research. Sounds like the Ti’s are only available in the Low” model.  Not in the 5.6.

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https://venturetrucks.net/

Again sorry if this sounds like I am being "Mr know it all" but I have had this question a lot from a shop perspective.


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No way man. Appreciate the banter.  Good to know as trucks can get really confusing.  I’m riding.  I ride a 303 board shop BBS/Generator.  8.25.  Absolutely love their shops decks.  Quality for sure. Prior to I had Frog / FA pretty consistently.   

I’ll probably splurge.  Would be rad if I could buy just the Ti base plate. I used to road cycle pretty hard and we would cut it all down to grams with carbon bits.  Get a really light bike.  I’ve thought about trying it in skating. I doubt it works the same. Figure as I age less mass to throw around might help.  Hardware, axle end nuts, etc.
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Only thing titanium in the Ti trucks is the axle. The hanger is otherwise the same. The baseplate is forged aluminum with a hollow steel kingpin like in V-hollow & V-lights. So you could go cheaper and just get either of those. Unfortunately I think only Indy is selling baseplates separately and only the standard & standard mid versions.

"too lazy to figure out v-ti weight"
indy 139 standard       : 377g
indy 139 forged hollow :334g
indy 139 ti                 : 322g

there're only 10 grams difference between ti axle and hollow axle, it's not worth paying that much for ti axle
save the money for a new set of spitfire f4
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on August 24, 2022, 06:56:14 AM
I’ve come to my senses. Could probably save ten gram in a sesh by doing 5050s warming up.   

Good convo. Irrational thinking for sure. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 24, 2022, 10:19:51 AM
Honestly, I’d just grind through them, next set get hollows, consider smaller wheels, don’t buy a twin, short, or steep nose. 

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on August 26, 2022, 10:39:06 AM
https://youtu.be/ngwG2mML-nc
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: camel filters on August 26, 2022, 11:29:56 AM
https://youtu.be/ngwG2mML-nc
lol why would he put it on lows. didn't even make it to the end of the video with the bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on August 26, 2022, 12:16:32 PM
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lol why would he put it on lows. didn't even make it to the end of the video with the bushings.


Because lo’s are the shit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on August 26, 2022, 12:24:25 PM
the ventures I had last year where the most loose tucks I've ever skated... idk why anyone would want them looser.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on August 26, 2022, 01:46:39 PM
I may be wrong so please correct me if so... but if you shorten the top bushing, doesn't that just limit how deep you can turn?

So even if your trucks are looser, you can't lean as deep into the turn before it stops and thus your overall turning radius is worsen now despite the truck being looser.

I didn't test it very thoroughly and I also have flat tops on my ventures so not a 1 to 1 comparison, but standing on two of my friends' boards for like 30 seconds each (both of whom had the green loose conversion kits in their ventures), their seemed looser but didn't necessarily seem to have a deeper or sharper than mine

A small part of why aces have such a deep turn is because they have a pretty tall top bushing right? I put some venture stock tops in my aces once for shits and the shorter top made the turn max out much quicker.

Plus ventures already are relatively limited in the turning department, wouldn't it have made more sense to just provide a softer set of bushings that are the same dimensions?

Sounds like these make sense for those who want a looser feeling truck for small adjustments, but aren't necessarily good for somebody who finds the turn on venture limiting and wants a sharper turn
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Knee Pain on August 26, 2022, 02:01:51 PM
Yeah I don’t think you can get a better turn out of ventures aside from using a flat top washer.

I get wheel bite a lot with supercush and a flat washer, those low bushings would just make it worse surely?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on August 26, 2022, 02:12:46 PM
Not sure but easiest solution for that is just to remember to wax your wheel bite marks lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on August 26, 2022, 04:20:37 PM
Yeah I don’t think you can get a better turn out of ventures aside from using a flat top washer.

I get wheel bite a lot with supercush and a flat washer, those low bushings would just make it worse surely?

Softer bottom (ACE classic), harder low top (ACE classic low) + bones flat washer was the best experience I've had.

Thing is you, can't make them indys, and we should stop trying.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 26, 2022, 05:22:00 PM
I may be wrong so please correct me if so... but if you shorten the top bushing, doesn't that just limit how deep you can turn?

So even if your trucks are looser, you can't lean as deep into the turn before it stops and thus your overall turning radius is worsen now despite the truck being looser.

I didn't test it very thoroughly and I also have flat tops on my ventures so not a 1 to 1 comparison, but standing on two of my friends' boards for like 30 seconds each (both of whom had the green loose conversion kits in their ventures), their seemed looser but didn't necessarily seem to have a deeper or sharper than mine

A small part of why aces have such a deep turn is because they have a pretty tall top bushing right? I put some venture stock tops in my aces once for shits and the shorter top made the turn max out much quicker.

Plus ventures already are relatively limited in the turning department, wouldn't it have made more sense to just provide a softer set of bushings that are the same dimensions?

Sounds like these make sense for those who want a looser feeling truck for small adjustments, but aren't necessarily good for somebody who finds the turn on venture limiting and wants a sharper turn


I have used a low top bushing for a long time, originally cutting down bushings back when there were no other options, then using the Indy bushing kit with the low heads.  I still cut down a lot of bushings for people - some very light adults but mostly for kids - who just cannot turn with the bushings at the height and the kingpin on where it needs to be.

Yes full metal cupped washers will dig into the hanger and limit turn, but the washers that come with these are minimal in how much they cup the bushings, so I don't get any contact on the majority of them, and only very small amounts of contact on some bushings that are so flattened that there is not much bushing left, but all of them still do what I need them to.

In that regard, it is not so much about how much turn I have, but how responsive they are, so these ones I use in 92 duro are a touch harder than others, so I can have them loose feeling, but not wobbly, can lean a little left or right so they are still very responsive but they don't just go straight to wheelbite like other really soft bushings do.  If I really put weight into it, all four wheels will touch the deck easily enough, but it takes a fair bit of effort right on that one wheel, so although I have significant wheelbite marks, I don't have issues with wheelbite from my usual setups.

Even on stock 90 duro cut down heads or the aftermarket 90 low heads, the responsiveness of the trucks is key, not how quickly they turn or how small the turning diameter is on flat ground.


To add after re reading, in response to some of your questions:

The only limiting factor in how deep a truck can turn is when the wheel stops on the deck, so for taller trucks / smaller wheels or trucks with thin risers, the turning circle can be very small, but on most setups with average size wheels and no risers, it is the wheelbite and not the bushings that will cause the issues.


Those flat washers are definitely a good one to give a much looser feeling on any bushings with any trucks.  I tried it after I saw you guys do that and it is amazing how much of a difference it makes, with the kingpin nut in the same place.  The Bones bushings flat washer is thicker than some I bought in a bulk washer pack a while back, but both work well in that situation too.


Ace turn I would say comes from the geometry of the trucks, cause even putting other brand bushings in them, they were still way more turny than these other trucks, no matter which bushing options were used.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 27, 2022, 02:08:46 AM
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lol why would he put it on lows. didn't even make it to the end of the video with the bushings.
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Because lo’s are the shit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 27, 2022, 07:29:58 AM
Around 8:20 he professes his love for the Venture Lo…..


https://youtu.be/NCMpY10dFk8

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on August 27, 2022, 07:39:18 AM
I know the sale thread is the proper place for these posts, but if you skate Ventures, CCS has them for super cheap, including the 5.2 lows for $24/pair before shipping.

https://shop.ccs.com/products/venture-all-polished-lo-skateboard-trucks?variant=39314356142263&gclid=CjwKCAjwgaeYBhBAEiwAvMgp2g7myBTOWVsIoID2prbEdTxESGRRxp15C5C5JU97d7Z3KOOKgqb5iRoClyoQAvD_BwE
Title: Re: Venture 2020
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Yes they do
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on August 29, 2022, 07:07:31 AM
I know a lot of people love ventures on the primitive/April 8.25 shape and I was wondering if anyone knew of an 8.5 equivalent or even an 8.38. I want the short wb and long kicks of the 8.25, but I need a little more space for my size 12 feet.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: stringsnthings on August 29, 2022, 07:30:35 AM
I know a lot of people love ventures on the primitive/April 8.25 shape and I was wondering if anyone knew of an 8.5 equivalent or even an 8.38. I want the short wb and long kicks of the 8.25, but I need a little more space for my size 12 feet.

I have the same problem as you (Size 12's) I used to ride Girl G027 (8.25") and Venture 5.8's (8.5" axle) for like a little over a year but eventually i went up in board size cause I felt like my feet looked like they were always hanging off the board every time I land anything and it looked gross to me. Now I've been riding 8.75 decks with Venture 6.1's. i haven't found any 8.75 with almost identical nose/tail lengths
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on August 29, 2022, 07:46:28 AM
I know a lot of people love ventures on the primitive/April 8.25 shape and I was wondering if anyone knew of an 8.5 equivalent or even an 8.38. I want the short wb and long kicks of the 8.25, but I need a little more space for my size 12 feet.

anti hero "mis-registered eagle" short 8.5 - it has a 14 inch wheelbase and is 31.75 in length so the kicks are rather long.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SwitchBigspinflipBoneless on August 29, 2022, 08:58:45 AM
Can someone give me some feedback on the titaniums? I ride 8.18-8.25.  Looking for ways to get a bit more snap. 

Currently ride 5.6 with 54mm Spitfire LL.

Hey man, yeah bushings are fine just checked them. Replaced the nut and it keeps happening. Reckon its the kingpin? Bit reluctant to glue the nut on (but also cant be asked to replace the kingpin if so)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on August 29, 2022, 10:22:53 AM
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Currently ride 5.6 with 54mm Spitfire LL.
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Hey man, yeah bushings are fine just checked them. Replaced the nut and it keeps happening. Reckon its the kingpin? Bit reluctant to glue the nut on (but also cant be asked to replace the kingpin if so)

You can still get the nut off if you use normal thread lock like blue Loctite, it’ll just stay there more securely.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 29, 2022, 06:42:43 PM
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anti hero "mis-registered eagle" short 8.5 - it has a 14 inch wheelbase and is 31.75 in length so the kicks are rather long.

If you can find them in stock, looks like there were one-and-done last season, wish they made it a staple of their catalog like the Real Floral, shit graphics but short WB (8.25 x 14 x 31.9)

(https://makeshop-multi-images.akamaized.net/rfsk8/shopimages/00/74/1_000000017400.jpg?1632485389)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on August 29, 2022, 08:21:56 PM
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anti hero "mis-registered eagle" short 8.5 - it has a 14 inch wheelbase and is 31.75 in length so the kicks are rather long.
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If you can find them in stock, looks like there were one-and-done last season, wish they made it a staple of their catalog like the Real Floral, shit graphics but short WB (8.25 x 14 x 31.9)

(https://makeshop-multi-images.akamaized.net/rfsk8/shopimages/00/74/1_000000017400.jpg?1632485389)

I really wanted to try this but never found one in stock anywhere.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 30, 2022, 02:04:11 AM
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I know a lot of people love ventures on the primitive/April 8.25 shape and I was wondering if anyone knew of an 8.5 equivalent or even an 8.38. I want the short wb and long kicks of the 8.25, but I need a little more space for my size 12 feet.
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anti hero "mis-registered eagle" short 8.5 - it has a 14 inch wheelbase and is 31.75 in length so the kicks are rather long.
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If you can find them in stock, looks like there were one-and-done last season, wish they made it a staple of their catalog like the Real Floral, shit graphics but short WB (8.25 x 14 x 31.9)

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I really wanted to try this but never found one in stock anywhere.


There are newer versions of those same shapes, with this graphic:

https://www.realskateboards.com/summer-2022/

(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2022/rs-sum-22-ff-cat-09.png)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: slutonparade on August 30, 2022, 11:54:52 AM
I just got my first pair of ventures ever. 5.8 v-hollow. I’m going to put them on a 8.5” AH blue eagle
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on August 30, 2022, 12:15:31 PM
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I know a lot of people love ventures on the primitive/April 8.25 shape and I was wondering if anyone knew of an 8.5 equivalent or even an 8.38. I want the short wb and long kicks of the 8.25, but I need a little more space for my size 12 feet.
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anti hero "mis-registered eagle" short 8.5 - it has a 14 inch wheelbase and is 31.75 in length so the kicks are rather long.
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If you can find them in stock, looks like there were one-and-done last season, wish they made it a staple of their catalog like the Real Floral, shit graphics but short WB (8.25 x 14 x 31.9)

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I really wanted to try this but never found one in stock anywhere.
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There are newer versions of those same shapes, with this graphic:

https://www.realskateboards.com/summer-2022/

(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2022/rs-sum-22-ff-cat-09.png)

Can't wait to not find these all of '22/23!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on August 30, 2022, 12:50:29 PM
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I know a lot of people love ventures on the primitive/April 8.25 shape and I was wondering if anyone knew of an 8.5 equivalent or even an 8.38. I want the short wb and long kicks of the 8.25, but I need a little more space for my size 12 feet.
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anti hero "mis-registered eagle" short 8.5 - it has a 14 inch wheelbase and is 31.75 in length so the kicks are rather long.
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If you can find them in stock, looks like there were one-and-done last season, wish they made it a staple of their catalog like the Real Floral, shit graphics but short WB (8.25 x 14 x 31.9)

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I really wanted to try this but never found one in stock anywhere.
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There are newer versions of those same shapes, with this graphic:

https://www.realskateboards.com/summer-2022/

(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2022/rs-sum-22-ff-cat-09.png)
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Can't wait to not find these all of '22/23!


I need to try one of those 8.5s. Seems like exactly what I’m looking for
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I know a lot of people love ventures on the primitive/April 8.25 shape and I was wondering if anyone knew of an 8.5 equivalent or even an 8.38. I want the short wb and long kicks of the 8.25, but I need a little more space for my size 12 feet.
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anti hero "mis-registered eagle" short 8.5 - it has a 14 inch wheelbase and is 31.75 in length so the kicks are rather long.
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If you can find them in stock, looks like there were one-and-done last season, wish they made it a staple of their catalog like the Real Floral, shit graphics but short WB (8.25 x 14 x 31.9)

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I really wanted to try this but never found one in stock anywhere.
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There are newer versions of those same shapes, with this graphic:

https://www.realskateboards.com/summer-2022/

(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2022/rs-sum-22-ff-cat-09.png)
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Can't wait to not find these all of '22/23!
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I need to try one of those 8.5s. Seems like exactly what I’m looking for
Skate warehouse has/had them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on August 30, 2022, 03:28:15 PM
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I know a lot of people love ventures on the primitive/April 8.25 shape and I was wondering if anyone knew of an 8.5 equivalent or even an 8.38. I want the short wb and long kicks of the 8.25, but I need a little more space for my size 12 feet.
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anti hero "mis-registered eagle" short 8.5 - it has a 14 inch wheelbase and is 31.75 in length so the kicks are rather long.
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If you can find them in stock, looks like there were one-and-done last season, wish they made it a staple of their catalog like the Real Floral, shit graphics but short WB (8.25 x 14 x 31.9)

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I really wanted to try this but never found one in stock anywhere.
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There are newer versions of those same shapes, with this graphic:

https://www.realskateboards.com/summer-2022/

(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2022/rs-sum-22-ff-cat-09.png)
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Can't wait to not find these all of '22/23!
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I need to try one of those 8.5s. Seems like exactly what I’m looking for
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Skate warehouse has/had them

You're right, they have them in all sizes. I assume Skate Warehouse has a 20% sale coming up this weekend, as they usually do.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/searchresults.html?search=products#search=products&searchtext=real%20scanners&opt_page=1&opt_sort=priceAcc&opt_perpage=20

https://shop.ccs.com/products/real-scanners-team-skateboard-deck-8-50
Title: Re: Venture 2020
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anti hero "mis-registered eagle" short 8.5 - it has a 14 inch wheelbase and is 31.75 in length so the kicks are rather long.
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If you can find them in stock, looks like there were one-and-done last season, wish they made it a staple of their catalog like the Real Floral, shit graphics but short WB (8.25 x 14 x 31.9)

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I really wanted to try this but never found one in stock anywhere.
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There are newer versions of those same shapes, with this graphic:

https://www.realskateboards.com/summer-2022/

(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2022/rs-sum-22-ff-cat-09.png)
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Can't wait to not find these all of '22/23!
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I need to try one of those 8.5s. Seems like exactly what I’m looking for
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Skate warehouse has/had them
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You're right, they have them in all sizes. I assume Skate Warehouse has a 20% sale coming up this weekend, as they usually do.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/searchresults.html?search=products#search=products&searchtext=real%20scanners&opt_page=1&opt_sort=priceAcc&opt_perpage=20

https://shop.ccs.com/products/real-scanners-team-skateboard-deck-8-50

lord this is tempting, and after i just felt extremely satisfied with my current deck backlog
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 30, 2022, 07:06:02 PM
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anti hero "mis-registered eagle" short 8.5 - it has a 14 inch wheelbase and is 31.75 in length so the kicks are rather long.
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If you can find them in stock, looks like there were one-and-done last season, wish they made it a staple of their catalog like the Real Floral, shit graphics but short WB (8.25 x 14 x 31.9)

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I really wanted to try this but never found one in stock anywhere.
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There are newer versions of those same shapes, with this graphic:

https://www.realskateboards.com/summer-2022/

(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2022/rs-sum-22-ff-cat-09.png)
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Can't wait to not find these all of '22/23!
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I need to try one of those 8.5s. Seems like exactly what I’m looking for
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Skate warehouse has/had them
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You're right, they have them in all sizes. I assume Skate Warehouse has a 20% sale coming up this weekend, as they usually do.

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/searchresults.html?search=products#search=products&searchtext=real%20scanners&opt_page=1&opt_sort=priceAcc&opt_perpage=20

https://shop.ccs.com/products/real-scanners-team-skateboard-deck-8-50
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lord this is tempting, and after i just felt extremely satisfied with my current deck backlog

i feel like hunger next month is worth a 5 pack of these. 5 of these 8.5s would last me a year maybe more if i give up Imposibles. id have to give up weed to unless i cop some hours somewhere.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on September 04, 2022, 10:25:35 PM
Sorry for asking an old question - I know the 6.1 has a shorter wheelbase than the other sizes… (+3” as seen on the truck wb thread) does this apply for for the v-lights too? Or are those also pushed out a bit?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 05, 2022, 01:49:16 AM
Sorry for asking an old question - I know the 6.1 has a shorter wheelbase than the other sizes… (+3” as seen on the truck wb thread) does this apply for for the v-lights too? Or are those also pushed out a bit?


I have the normal polished 6.1 on a board and they feel like they are exactly the same as the 5.8 or 5.6 (and other sizes that I have set up) so I am wondering if someone measured incorrectly or if I am mistaken for thinking they were like the rest and all the same wheelbase measurement.

Might have to go get the board out and compare again, but Venture in general definitely have the most pushed out wheelbase of all the trucks in all sizes, or so I thought.


The forged baseplate does push them out a bit more, whatever they are on, which can be the light, hollow or Ti axle versions.  My boards pretty much all have the standard baseplates on them and looking at the hangers, they are all the same, just wider.


I think that thread needed updating too.


WB on your trucks

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 07, 2022, 08:33:29 PM
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Anyone in Australia that was after the Venture green bushings (low tops) they are in stock on OCD, so most likely other places soon enough too.


https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/products/venture-bushing-conversion-90a-green


I know there were a few people who were keen on getting some.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Slugboi22 on September 08, 2022, 03:09:33 PM
considering getting some V-lights to switch my usual set up a bit and i’ve always wanted to try some ventures! Gonna get the loose bushing kit too. What’s the height on 5.8 V-lights? 53mm? I think Ace Af1s are so the height transition won’t be a lot i hope! Just kinda miss the grind of a hard truck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: swellbowed on September 08, 2022, 03:17:09 PM
considering getting some V-lights to switch my usual set up a bit and i’ve always wanted to try some ventures! Gonna get the loose bushing kit too. What’s the height on 5.8 V-lights? 53mm? I think Ace Af1s are so the height transition won’t be a lot i hope! Just kinda miss the grind of a hard truck.
5.8 V-Lights are 52mm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 08, 2022, 11:15:58 PM
Give or take they are exactly the opposite truck…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on September 08, 2022, 11:20:24 PM
considering getting some V-lights to switch my usual set up a bit and i’ve always wanted to try some ventures! Gonna get the loose bushing kit too. What’s the height on 5.8 V-lights? 53mm? I think Ace Af1s are so the height transition won’t be a lot i hope! Just kinda miss the grind of a hard truck.

Give or take they are exactly the opposite truck…..

Oh man, get ready for a rude awake...ning.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Slugboi22 on September 08, 2022, 11:56:56 PM
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considering getting some V-lights to switch my usual set up a bit and i’ve always wanted to try some ventures! Gonna get the loose bushing kit too. What’s the height on 5.8 V-lights? 53mm? I think Ace Af1s are so the height transition won’t be a lot i hope! Just kinda miss the grind of a hard truck.
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yeah i realize both trucks are incredibly different. i’ve just got this itch to try a different truck out to see how i’d feel/ skate on em. i figure because i’m relatively tall i might want to try gear that extends the wheelbase to see if it could help my skating at all but i could just  have a screw loose at the moment.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on September 09, 2022, 02:51:09 AM
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yeah i realize both trucks are incredibly different. i’ve just got this itch to try a different truck out to see how i’d feel/ skate on em. i figure because i’m relatively tall i might want to try gear that extends the wheelbase to see if it could help my skating at all but i could just  have a screw loose at the moment.

Is there any relation to body height and truck-wheelbase on the same deck? I don't think that would help at all if your problem is feeling to cramped due to a short wb. Maybe try a longer wb deck with your aces.

But if you do, please report
Title: Re: Venture 2020
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yeah i realize both trucks are incredibly different. i’ve just got this itch to try a different truck out to see how i’d feel/ skate on em. i figure because i’m relatively tall i might want to try gear that extends the wheelbase to see if it could help my skating at all but i could just  have a screw loose at the moment.
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Is there any relation to body height and truck-wheelbase on the same deck? I don't think that would help at all if your problem is feeling to cramped due to a short wb. Maybe try a longer wb deck with your aces.

But if you do, please report

Probably dependent on your level of madness. But I would say so. I had tried ventures a while back and they worked fine on 14.25 wb for me. I wasnt crazy about the turn/grind though and when i put my indy's back on they felt WAY too cramped. I'm 6' 4"
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yeah i realize both trucks are incredibly different. i’ve just got this itch to try a different truck out to see how i’d feel/ skate on em. i figure because i’m relatively tall i might want to try gear that extends the wheelbase to see if it could help my skating at all but i could just  have a screw loose at the moment.
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Is there any relation to body height and truck-wheelbase on the same deck? I don't think that would help at all if your problem is feeling to cramped due to a short wb. Maybe try a longer wb deck with your aces.

But if you do, please report

Paul Schmitt told me WB is more related to shoe size than anything. Take that for what you will. He is a professor after all.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
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yeah i realize both trucks are incredibly different. i’ve just got this itch to try a different truck out to see how i’d feel/ skate on em. i figure because i’m relatively tall i might want to try gear that extends the wheelbase to see if it could help my skating at all but i could just  have a screw loose at the moment.
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Is there any relation to body height and truck-wheelbase on the same deck? I don't think that would help at all if your problem is feeling to cramped due to a short wb. Maybe try a longer wb deck with your aces.

But if you do, please report
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Probably dependent on your level of madness. But I would say so. I had tried ventures a while back and they worked fine on 14.25 wb for me. I wasnt crazy about the turn/grind though and when i put my indy's back on they felt WAY too cramped. I'm 6' 4"

Can you explain this to me? Like imagine being on that board, not seeing the axles, you hypothetically have no idea which trucks are on it. How would it make you feel cramped/what did you feel?

It's so weird to me because I skated thunders on 14.4wb and now ace on a 14" wb.
Because the thunders are the titaniums, so the pop on the long wb board+thunder feels about as light as ace on a 14" wb.
Because of the big weight and wb difference, the setups actually feel similar.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 09, 2022, 08:12:36 AM
Honestly, I skated Ace lo’s and ventures at the same time, I adjusted pretty quick, all the major trucks do something well…..

I just like how ventures pop, how you can lock into manuals and they are lighter….

Aces grind better, turn way better and push in the wheelbase which works well with a lot of boards IMO…but I think the wheelbase matters but a fair share of it is…..koo…koo….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on September 09, 2022, 09:01:44 AM
Honestly, I skated Ace lo’s and ventures at the same time, I adjusted pretty quick, all the major trucks do something well…..

I just like how ventures pop, how you can lock into manuals and they are lighter….

Aces grind better, turn way better and push in the wheelbase which works well with a lot of boards IMO…but I think the wheelbase matters but a fair share of it is…..koo…koo….
I also skate both Ace and Ventures at the same time lol the adjustment period is like 20 minutes tops. granted I mostly skate my ventures and only ride the aces at the curb spot.

i definitely agree that aces work well with a lot of boards. for me to enjoy ventures, the board has to be really mellow if it has a 14.25" wb or just straight 14" wb. I prefer the latter option tho
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Slugboi22 on September 09, 2022, 09:14:28 AM
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Honestly, I skated Ace lo’s and ventures at the same time, I adjusted pretty quick, all the major trucks do something well…..

I just like how ventures pop, how you can lock into manuals and they are lighter….

Aces grind better, turn way better and push in the wheelbase which works well with a lot of boards IMO…but I think the wheelbase matters but a fair share of it is…..koo…koo….
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I also skate both Ace and Ventures at the same time lol the adjustment period is like 20 minutes tops. granted I mostly skate my ventures and only ride the aces at the curb spot.

i definitely agree that aces work well with a lot of boards. for me to enjoy ventures, the board has to be really mellow if it has a 14.25" wb or just straight 14" wb. I prefer the latter option tho
Yeah i figured it would just be a quick adjustment for me but honestly after sleeping on it i’ll probably just go buy ace hollows in their standard height at this point. after taking everything into consideration it’s probably more about my boards wheelbase than the truck itself. thanks all for the insight and such, i appreciate it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 09, 2022, 01:35:33 PM
Short of recommending an Indy…your assessment seems like solid middle ground….Aces do slappy really well but the pinch on a venture is pretty nice too…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: plasticsurgerydisasters on September 09, 2022, 10:53:57 PM
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Honestly, I skated Ace lo’s and ventures at the same time, I adjusted pretty quick, all the major trucks do something well…..

I just like how ventures pop, how you can lock into manuals and they are lighter….

Aces grind better, turn way better and push in the wheelbase which works well with a lot of boards IMO…but I think the wheelbase matters but a fair share of it is…..koo…koo….
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I also skate both Ace and Ventures at the same time lol the adjustment period is like 20 minutes tops. granted I mostly skate my ventures and only ride the aces at the curb spot.

i definitely agree that aces work well with a lot of boards. for me to enjoy ventures, the board has to be really mellow if it has a 14.25" wb or just straight 14" wb. I prefer the latter option tho
Just switched to some Ace AF1s from some peer pressure from my friends who all swear by aces. Definitely missing my ventures though. I feel like I can’t lock in on rails as well with the aces but time will tell. The baseplate slides really nice on nose and tail slides though. But long story short adjustment wasn’t too long besides locking in on rails.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on September 11, 2022, 07:58:36 AM
Skating a 8.25 alien board now and don’t know yet how I like it. High hollow ventures.

Kick are long on that deck. Had a hockey before and will skate GX 8.125 next. That one has short tail.

What do you prefer ? Long or short tail?

I skated 8“ decks , 8.125 , 818 and 8.25 over the last year and still don’t know what I prefer.
Same for tail length.


I skated fuller shapes over the last two decks, now when I look at and 8“ anti hero or Powell for example it looks so weird to me. So pointy and flat.
I probably stick to fuller shapes and switch around with tail lengths and width’s.
I really think I can skate anything after little time of getting used to it.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on September 11, 2022, 08:22:13 AM
Skating a 8.25 alien board now and don’t know yet how I like it. High hollow ventures.

Kick are long on that deck. Had a hockey before and will skate GX 8.125 next. That one has short tail.

What do you prefer ? Long or short tail?

I skated 8“ decks , 8.125 , 818 and 8.25 over the last year and still don’t know what I prefer.
Same for tail length.


I skated fuller shapes over the last two decks, now when I look at and 8“ anti hero or Powell for example it looks so weird to me. So pointy and flat.
I probably stick to fuller shapes and switch around with tail lengths and width’s.
I really think I can skate anything after little time of getting used to it.
I prefer a little bit of a longer tail with my ventures. It makes it to where I don't have to put my foot so far back on the tail when setting up for kf and ollie tricks. Also a longer tail also helps with tail slides.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on September 12, 2022, 07:06:14 AM
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considering getting some V-lights to switch my usual set up a bit and i’ve always wanted to try some ventures! Gonna get the loose bushing kit too. What’s the height on 5.8 V-lights? 53mm? I think Ace Af1s are so the height transition won’t be a lot i hope! Just kinda miss the grind of a hard truck.
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Give or take they are exactly the opposite truck…..
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Oh man, get ready for a rude awake...ning.
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yeah i realize both trucks are incredibly different. i’ve just got this itch to try a different truck out to see how i’d feel/ skate on em. i figure because i’m relatively tall i might want to try gear that extends the wheelbase to see if it could help my skating at all but i could just  have a screw loose at the moment.
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Is there any relation to body height and truck-wheelbase on the same deck? I don't think that would help at all if your problem is feeling to cramped due to a short wb. Maybe try a longer wb deck with your aces.

But if you do, please report
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Probably dependent on your level of madness. But I would say so. I had tried ventures a while back and they worked fine on 14.25 wb for me. I wasnt crazy about the turn/grind though and when i put my indy's back on they felt WAY too cramped. I'm 6' 4"
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Can you explain this to me? Like imagine being on that board, not seeing the axles, you hypothetically have no idea which trucks are on it. How would it make you feel cramped/what did you feel?

It's so weird to me because I skated thunders on 14.4wb and now ace on a 14" wb.
Because the thunders are the titaniums, so the pop on the long wb board+thunder feels about as light as ace on a 14" wb.
Because of the big weight and wb difference, the setups actually feel similar.

When the difference that we're talking about is less than 1" i can see how you would assume it wouldnt really change much. But if you take it to the extremes ie trucks mounted in the center of your board or on the tips, those situations would very clearly change the feel of your skateboard. So while the difference between aces and ventures isnt as extreme as the difference between mounting your trucks in the center of your board vs on the tips, there is certainly a difference. the board turns differently, this is certain. Your weight distribution stance, balance, all play into this. Depending on your size/leg length, these differences might be more noticeable for some.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on September 12, 2022, 11:46:09 AM
8.25 Alien Board has such a nice Pop with high Venture hollows after getting used to it.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 12, 2022, 02:39:06 PM
I prefer ventures on medium/mellow set ups….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sondor on September 14, 2022, 12:09:57 AM
For your viewing pleasure

(https://i.imgur.com/BsVkJer.jpeg)
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Now I have to retire my venture 6.1's, that I set up this January.
I think the newly learned front slappies ate them mostly.
See me in the thunder thread next time
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Filip on September 14, 2022, 01:19:48 AM
Guys, I have a question about Ventures. Right now, Im skating Thunders 151, and they are done. When I say done, I mean down to the axle, bent, just overal not really enjoyable anymore. I have Ventures 6.1 on my cruiser setup. I really want to put them on my regular board, but I never tried them with regular wheels.

My setup:
8,5 deck, usually 32 long, just basic wheelbase, I think 14,25-14,5?
Thunders 151, with risers (just small ones, force of a habit, I guess, never skated without them)
52 wheels

I skate semi loose trucks, maybe in the middle (Nut is flush with kingpin, regular Thunder bushings)

My question is:

Will I hate the Ventures? Do they make the board feel super different from Thunders?
I really want to skate them, but if Im gonna break them in just to hate the experience, Id rather just buy Thunders again..

Thanks in advance guys.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sondor on September 14, 2022, 01:54:22 AM
Guys, I have a question about Ventures. Right now, Im skating Thunders 151, and they are done. When I say done, I mean down to the axle, bent, just overal not really enjoyable anymore. I have Ventures 6.1 on my cruiser setup. I really want to put them on my regular board, but I never tried them with regular wheels.

My setup:
8,5 deck, usually 32 long, just basic wheelbase, I think 14,25-14,5?
Thunders 151, with risers (just small ones, force of a habit, I guess, never skated without them)
52 wheels

I skate semi loose trucks, maybe in the middle (Nut is flush with kingpin, regular Thunder bushings)

My question is:

Will I hate the Ventures? Do they make the board feel super different from Thunders?
I really want to skate them, but if Im gonna break them in just to hate the experience, Id rather just buy Thunders again..

Thanks in advance guys.

Funny; in the previous post I just do the opposite (changing from venture 6.1 to thunder 151)
I only had one session and the things I noticed that the thunders are much more responsive and surfy
also the ventures have so much better kp clearance, even when they are grinded down to the axle
even tho, thunders really feel like easier to do tricks with
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on September 14, 2022, 03:51:38 AM
Guys, I have a question about Ventures. Right now, Im skating Thunders 151, and they are done. When I say done, I mean down to the axle, bent, just overal not really enjoyable anymore. I have Ventures 6.1 on my cruiser setup. I really want to put them on my regular board, but I never tried them with regular wheels.

My setup:
8,5 deck, usually 32 long, just basic wheelbase, I think 14,25-14,5?
Thunders 151, with risers (just small ones, force of a habit, I guess, never skated without them)
52 wheels

I skate semi loose trucks, maybe in the middle (Nut is flush with kingpin, regular Thunder bushings)

My question is:

Will I hate the Ventures? Do they make the board feel super different from Thunders?
I really want to skate them, but if Im gonna break them in just to hate the experience, Id rather just buy Thunders again..

Thanks in advance guys.
You won't have any problem adjusting to venture. They are basically a more stable thunder. You'll like them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on September 14, 2022, 04:45:02 AM
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Guys, I have a question about Ventures. Right now, Im skating Thunders 151, and they are done. When I say done, I mean down to the axle, bent, just overal not really enjoyable anymore. I have Ventures 6.1 on my cruiser setup. I really want to put them on my regular board, but I never tried them with regular wheels.

My setup:
8,5 deck, usually 32 long, just basic wheelbase, I think 14,25-14,5?
Thunders 151, with risers (just small ones, force of a habit, I guess, never skated without them)
52 wheels

I skate semi loose trucks, maybe in the middle (Nut is flush with kingpin, regular Thunder bushings)

My question is:

Will I hate the Ventures? Do they make the board feel super different from Thunders?
I really want to skate them, but if Im gonna break them in just to hate the experience, Id rather just buy Thunders again..

Thanks in advance guys.
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Funny; in the previous post I just do the opposite (changing from venture 6.1 to thunder 151)
I only had one session and the things I noticed that the thunders are much more responsive and surfy
also the ventures have so much better kp clearance, even when they are grinded down to the axle
even tho, thunders really feel like easier to do tricks with

On my first pair of Thunders and currently thinking about retiring them already cause the KP-clearance is a freaking joke. I love the pop, but before tinkering even more with the Thunders than I already do, I'm thinking of switching back to Ventures and just carry a piece of wax in my pocket to keep them hangers waxed and grinding.
Anyone have a suggestion on which Ventures feel closest in pop to Thunder Team 147s?
Adjusting the deck/truck-combo regarding WB of course, currently on a Ishod TT 8.3.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Filip on September 14, 2022, 06:50:44 AM
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Guys, I have a question about Ventures. Right now, Im skating Thunders 151, and they are done. When I say done, I mean down to the axle, bent, just overal not really enjoyable anymore. I have Ventures 6.1 on my cruiser setup. I really want to put them on my regular board, but I never tried them with regular wheels.

My setup:
8,5 deck, usually 32 long, just basic wheelbase, I think 14,25-14,5?
Thunders 151, with risers (just small ones, force of a habit, I guess, never skated without them)
52 wheels

I skate semi loose trucks, maybe in the middle (Nut is flush with kingpin, regular Thunder bushings)

My question is:

Will I hate the Ventures? Do they make the board feel super different from Thunders?
I really want to skate them, but if Im gonna break them in just to hate the experience, Id rather just buy Thunders again..

Thanks in advance guys.
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You won't have any problem adjusting to venture. They are basically a more stable thunder. You'll like them.

Thanks man, I try it tommorow. I was a little worried about the wheelbase and height, because Ive been a Thunder person my whole skate life (19 years bassicaly), but I guess I just try it tommorow and see whats up.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on September 14, 2022, 07:07:33 AM
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Guys, I have a question about Ventures. Right now, Im skating Thunders 151, and they are done. When I say done, I mean down to the axle, bent, just overal not really enjoyable anymore. I have Ventures 6.1 on my cruiser setup. I really want to put them on my regular board, but I never tried them with regular wheels.

My setup:
8,5 deck, usually 32 long, just basic wheelbase, I think 14,25-14,5?
Thunders 151, with risers (just small ones, force of a habit, I guess, never skated without them)
52 wheels

I skate semi loose trucks, maybe in the middle (Nut is flush with kingpin, regular Thunder bushings)

My question is:

Will I hate the Ventures? Do they make the board feel super different from Thunders?
I really want to skate them, but if Im gonna break them in just to hate the experience, Id rather just buy Thunders again..

Thanks in advance guys.
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You won't have any problem adjusting to venture. They are basically a more stable thunder. You'll like them.
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Thanks man, I try it tommorow. I was a little worried about the wheelbase and height, because Ive been a Thunder person my whole skate life (19 years bassicaly), but I guess I just try it tommorow and see whats up.
For sure man. If anything you can just ride those until you get a new pair. I think you will get used to them pretty quick tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bryan on September 14, 2022, 07:32:06 AM
On my first pair of Thunders and currently thinking about retiring them already cause the KP-clearance is a freaking joke. I love the pop, but before tinkering even more with the Thunders than I already do, I'm thinking of switching back to Ventures and just carry a piece of wax in my pocket to keep them hangers waxed and grinding.
Anyone have a suggestion on which Ventures feel closest in pop to Thunder Team 147s?
Adjusting the deck/truck-combo regarding WB of course, currently on a Ishod TT 8.3.

Thunder 147 are the lower thunders ~50mm tall but are in between venture hi/lo in height (53.5/48mm). But venture lo kp clearance is probably worse than thunder 147, so I'd say go with Venture hi with the forged baseplate (vlight/vhollow) which lowers the truck by 1mm. If the height/extra effort to pop is too much, downsize your wheels 1-2mm.. or just get used to it.

If you decide to switch, the ventures will be different (worse?)  turning but better kp clearance, stability, and wheelbite.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 14, 2022, 09:02:26 AM
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Guys, I have a question about Ventures. Right now, Im skating Thunders 151, and they are done. When I say done, I mean down to the axle, bent, just overal not really enjoyable anymore. I have Ventures 6.1 on my cruiser setup. I really want to put them on my regular board, but I never tried them with regular wheels.

My setup:
8,5 deck, usually 32 long, just basic wheelbase, I think 14,25-14,5?
Thunders 151, with risers (just small ones, force of a habit, I guess, never skated without them)
52 wheels

I skate semi loose trucks, maybe in the middle (Nut is flush with kingpin, regular Thunder bushings)

My question is:

Will I hate the Ventures? Do they make the board feel super different from Thunders?
I really want to skate them, but if Im gonna break them in just to hate the experience, Id rather just buy Thunders again..

Thanks in advance guys.
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You won't have any problem adjusting to venture. They are basically a more stable thunder. You'll like them.
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Thanks man, I try it tommorow. I was a little worried about the wheelbase and height, because Ive been a Thunder person my whole skate life (19 years bassicaly), but I guess I just try it tommorow and see whats up.

You're in the church of Venture - the only truck that matters.

But I personally avoid 14.38 decks with Ventures, even at 32.25 and cast baseplates. They just feel too sluggish on the pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on September 14, 2022, 12:23:34 PM
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On my first pair of Thunders and currently thinking about retiring them already cause the KP-clearance is a freaking joke. I love the pop, but before tinkering even more with the Thunders than I already do, I'm thinking of switching back to Ventures and just carry a piece of wax in my pocket to keep them hangers waxed and grinding.
Anyone have a suggestion on which Ventures feel closest in pop to Thunder Team 147s?
Adjusting the deck/truck-combo regarding WB of course, currently on a Ishod TT 8.3.
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Thunder 147 are the lower thunders ~50mm tall but are in between venture hi/lo in height (53.5/48mm). But venture lo kp clearance is probably worse than thunder 147, so I'd say go with Venture hi with the forged baseplate (vlight/vhollow) which lowers the truck by 1mm. If the height/extra effort to pop is too much, downsize your wheels 1-2mm.. or just get used to it.

If you decide to switch, the ventures will be different (worse?)  turning but better kp clearance, stability, and wheelbite.

Thanks for the answer!
Already had Venture 5.6 hollows for a while and really liked them and to me the new loose kit seems to solve most problems I had with them – apart from the grind. Just had this itch about Thunders that I wanted to try them and the pop is amazing.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Filip on September 15, 2022, 11:38:56 AM
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Guys, I have a question about Ventures. Right now, Im skating Thunders 151, and they are done. When I say done, I mean down to the axle, bent, just overal not really enjoyable anymore. I have Ventures 6.1 on my cruiser setup. I really want to put them on my regular board, but I never tried them with regular wheels.

My setup:
8,5 deck, usually 32 long, just basic wheelbase, I think 14,25-14,5?
Thunders 151, with risers (just small ones, force of a habit, I guess, never skated without them)
52 wheels

I skate semi loose trucks, maybe in the middle (Nut is flush with kingpin, regular Thunder bushings)

My question is:

Will I hate the Ventures? Do they make the board feel super different from Thunders?
I really want to skate them, but if Im gonna break them in just to hate the experience, Id rather just buy Thunders again..

Thanks in advance guys.
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You won't have any problem adjusting to venture. They are basically a more stable thunder. You'll like them.
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Thanks man, I try it tommorow. I was a little worried about the wheelbase and height, because Ive been a Thunder person my whole skate life (19 years bassicaly), but I guess I just try it tommorow and see whats up.
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You're in the church of Venture - the only truck that matters.

But I personally avoid 14.38 decks with Ventures, even at 32.25 and cast baseplates. They just feel too sluggish on the pop.

Ok guys, just a quick update. I skated the 6.1 for the first time today. As mentioned, they have been on my cruiser for some time, so bushings are broken in nicely, and I have to say, the turn in combination with my normal wheels is fantastic, I absolutely love how they work.

Few problems

Bunch of ghost pop for the first half of the session, since they are higher than Thunders, but I adjusted and its fine now.

Baseplates are so much longer and sticking out oposed to Thunders. I was super used to doing nose and tailslides with wheels touching the ledge, its not happening now (at least untill I get some grooves in those shits).

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 15, 2022, 12:33:39 PM
Guys, I have a question about Ventures. Right now, Im skating Thunders 151, and they are done. When I say done, I mean down to the axle, bent, just overal not really enjoyable anymore. I have Ventures 6.1 on my cruiser setup. I really want to put them on my regular board, but I never tried them with regular wheels.

My setup:
8,5 deck, usually 32 long, just basic wheelbase, I think 14,25-14,5?
Thunders 151, with risers (just small ones, force of a habit, I guess, never skated without them)
52 wheels

I skate semi loose trucks, maybe in the middle (Nut is flush with kingpin, regular Thunder bushings)

My question is:

Will I hate the Ventures? Do they make the board feel super different from Thunders?
I really want to skate them, but if Im gonna break them in just to hate the experience, Id rather just buy Thunders again..

Thanks in advance guys.

I'm skating Thunders right now and skated someone's board the other day (same deck shape as mine) that was on 5.6's with stock bushings and tightness. Holy shit, I really, really disliked it. Heavy ass pop is good for big height but I didn't like any flip tricks on it. Turning was worse than I remembered. Just killed my interest.

They're stable, I guess, but if you're used to Thunders I dunno why you'd want them personally. Maybe the baseplate slide? They will grind more harsh, pop more heavy and the top bushings blow out a lot. However, since they push the wheels out you can ride a shorter WB, you can always put a flat top on to open up the turn, and you can just go faster for certain grinds. There isn't a perfect truck it's just what shortcomings you wanna accept.

I did really like them with a flat top on a 14.25 specifically BBS generic shape and some Quasi.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: overwaxed on September 16, 2022, 09:52:34 AM
The loose trucks conversion bushings were comically loose for me (I’m 6’1”, 175#’s) - but I’m liking the green/yellow combo aesthetically at least so we’ll see how this combo skates! These are pretty new 6.1’s btw


(https://i.ibb.co/DgmsCqj/6-F45144-B-3-C83-4-CA0-866-D-AC8606-E616-D6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DgmsCqj)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sacking rails on September 16, 2022, 10:08:44 AM
how are doh dohs in ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on September 16, 2022, 10:20:48 AM
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Skating a 8.25 alien board now and don’t know yet how I like it. High hollow ventures.

Kick are long on that deck. Had a hockey before and will skate GX 8.125 next. That one has short tail.

What do you prefer ? Long or short tail?

I skated 8“ decks , 8.125 , 818 and 8.25 over the last year and still don’t know what I prefer.
Same for tail length.


I skated fuller shapes over the last two decks, now when I look at and 8“ anti hero or Powell for example it looks so weird to me. So pointy and flat.
I probably stick to fuller shapes and switch around with tail lengths and width’s.
I really think I can skate anything after little time of getting used to it.
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I prefer a little bit of a longer tail with my ventures. It makes it to where I don't have to put my foot so far back on the tail when setting up for kf and ollie tricks. Also a longer tail also helps with tail slides.

This. Longer tail, standard/long nose, short WB. Girl / Primitive / April work great.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 16, 2022, 11:31:09 AM
Guys, I have a question about Ventures. Right now, Im skating Thunders 151, and they are done. When I say done, I mean down to the axle, bent, just overal not really enjoyable anymore. I have Ventures 6.1 on my cruiser setup. I really want to put them on my regular board, but I never tried them with regular wheels.

My setup:
8,5 deck, usually 32 long, just basic wheelbase, I think 14,25-14,5?
Thunders 151, with risers (just small ones, force of a habit, I guess, never skated without them)
52 wheels

I skate semi loose trucks, maybe in the middle (Nut is flush with kingpin, regular Thunder bushings)

My question is:

Will I hate the Ventures? Do they make the board feel super different from Thunders?
I really want to skate them, but if Im gonna break them in just to hate the experience, Id rather just buy Thunders again..

Thanks in advance guys.

I'm not going to front. The change was difficult.

Like a week of cruising I couldn't go back.

I personally feel a sense of pride riding them. Gives me something to talk about. Feels even better when I get someone to make the switch.

I be pushing AWAKE like my name is Steve frickin Flaco Pro Fleastyler.

I might cop some side trucks soon tho.

If that 8.75 mag lite that kid Beav on the YouTube is riding when they drop.

Fucking venture needs a mag again. That would be game over for all other brands I believe.

We talking mass exodus. Now is definitely the time to take out Indy while they bringing back things people don't actually want.

I mean I want a stage 4 but I definitely believe they are not negotiating the market correctly at all.

Deluxe is #1 and we all know it. NHS is digging up old bones to try and milk this nostalgia 80s/90s shit. That's their thing. They the opposite of Powell.

Only Nazis romanticize "the golden age" also every kook in my home town is rocking Santa Cruz Dot shirts. The grey dot on black t. I think it has to do with the TV or something. Like the same person all had Metallica tshirts the weekend before.

You don't see that with frickin Venture. That shit still belongs to us. At least until frickin the colab with Carlisle group through supreme or whatever.

Help the war $ystem drop some bombs on some poor family in Yemen for the Royal frickin family.

I feel like gatekeeping trucks. No ventures for Supreme people. Go play with Chinese Nazi NHS trucks kook.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sacking rails on September 16, 2022, 01:11:33 PM
saw a dude at work today wearing a santa cruz dot shirt and a maga hat
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: dr.prestige on September 16, 2022, 05:10:43 PM
Definitely copping these

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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: dr.prestige on September 16, 2022, 05:13:46 PM

Fucking venture needs a mag again. That would be game over for all other brands I believe.

Yeah a new Venture magnesium truck would be pretty great, I don’t think there’s another truck company out there that manufactures them right now other than Tensor
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 16, 2022, 05:29:39 PM
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Fucking venture needs a mag again. That would be game over for all other brands I believe.
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Yeah a new Venture magnesium truck would be pretty great, I don’t think there’s another truck company out there that manufactures them right now other than Tensor

I'd ride a thunder mag.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: juniormint on September 16, 2022, 08:44:14 PM
how are doh dohs in ventures

Haven’t tried doh dohs in ventures. Can’t get supercush in my area so I chucked some Indy blue aftermarkets in my 6.1s. Works really well for me, amazing what a new set of bushings does for your pop. Turns good also, perhaps a bit stiff compared to the absolutely shredded stock bushings but the rebound is very nice and responsive.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 16, 2022, 11:17:21 PM
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Fucking venture needs a mag again. That would be game over for all other brands I believe.
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Yeah a new Venture magnesium truck would be pretty great, I don’t think there’s another truck company out there that manufactures them right now other than Tensor
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I'd ride a thunder mag.

I’d ride a Venture that grinded like a Thunder…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GT on September 16, 2022, 11:32:27 PM
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Fucking venture needs a mag again. That would be game over for all other brands I believe.
[close]

Yeah a new Venture magnesium truck would be pretty great, I don’t think there’s another truck company out there that manufactures them right now other than Tensor
[close]

I'd ride a thunder mag.
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I’d ride a Venture that grinded like a Thunder…..

I can't remember if venture actually released to the market a mag truck?  Weren't they prototype?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 17, 2022, 06:31:00 AM
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how are doh dohs in ventures
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Haven’t tried doh dohs in ventures. Can’t get supercush in my area so I chucked some Indy blue aftermarkets in my 6.1s. Works really well for me, amazing what a new set of bushings does for your pop. Turns good also, perhaps a bit stiff compared to the absolutely shredded stock bushings but the rebound is very nice and responsive.


I can also say the aftermarket Indy bushings work well in any truck I have tried them in.

Re Doh Doh bushings, I feel like I have had some "not so good" experiences with them, but in thinking back, they skated fine for me, it was other people who tried them and thought they were rubbish, which is how I ended up with half a dozen almost brand new sets of various options, mainly in the harder duro range, but I don't crank them down and let them do what they are supposed to do, which is allow a truck to turn.

Maybe more than anything a lot of bushings work better NOT being tightened down too hard, or at least worn in gently for the first few sessions, so YES they do work fine in Venture trucks.

@sacking rails

How do you like your trucks in terms of how much they turn, or how much give they have?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sacking rails on September 17, 2022, 09:39:16 AM
medium loose i dont skate bushings over 90a
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 17, 2022, 01:48:55 PM
Asking for a buddy that doesn't want to make an account to do so: are any of the Venture stock purple bushings somehow harder than 90A? He's had his 5.6 for like 3 weeks and loosened a turn past stock and the turn is really stiff. It's been a while since I had my own Ventures but I never remember them being this tight. He's skated them a few times a week for a few hours now and doesn't wanna have to change all the stock shit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on September 17, 2022, 02:27:43 PM
Asking for a buddy that doesn't want to make an account to do so: are any of the Venture stock purple bushings somehow harder than 90A? He's had his 5.6 for like 3 weeks and loosened a turn past stock and the turn is really stiff. It's been a while since I had my own Ventures but I never remember them being this tight. He's skated them a few times a week for a few hours now and doesn't wanna have to change all the stock shit.

i have recent-ish purple and red and they are the same feel as older ones, i wouldn't say they are harder than 90a. maybe top washer binding? also maybe pull the hangers off to check the pivot cup and get a general reset out of it? he might have done that already though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 17, 2022, 03:03:10 PM
medium loose i dont skate bushings over 90a

Yeah you should not have any problems with them.

I had another look at all these Doh Doh bushings and I remember him having issues with the bottom popping out over the washer, so I trimmed up the edges a bit, which made them sit nicely inside the washers.

Just normal scissors on the bottom sharp edge of the bushings to take a little off was all that was needed.



Asking for a buddy that doesn't want to make an account to do so: are any of the Venture stock purple bushings somehow harder than 90A? He's had his 5.6 for like 3 weeks and loosened a turn past stock and the turn is really stiff. It's been a while since I had my own Ventures but I never remember them being this tight. He's skated them a few times a week for a few hours now and doesn't wanna have to change all the stock shit.


The older bushings used to be way harder, but anything put out within the last few years at least is the same 90 duro hardness.  Bushings left sitting for a while can feel a lot stiffer too, so even just standing on the board leaning left to right and back again for a bit could loosen things up a touch.

I had been experimenting with using wax on the pivot nubs and on the bushing faces and that made the whole setup feel a whole lot looser with the kingpin nuts in the same position.

Just a couple of things without having to buy or change out anything.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on September 17, 2022, 03:59:48 PM
Latest Thrasher mag (#508), page 222. Venture X DC incoming

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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: dr.prestige on September 17, 2022, 06:18:39 PM
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Fucking venture needs a mag again. That would be game over for all other brands I believe.
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Yeah a new Venture magnesium truck would be pretty great, I don’t think there’s another truck company out there that manufactures them right now other than Tensor
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I'd ride a thunder mag.
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I’d ride a Venture that grinded like a Thunder…..
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I can't remember if venture actually released to the market a mag truck?  Weren't they prototype?

They did in the early 90s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 17, 2022, 06:36:32 PM
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Fucking venture needs a mag again. That would be game over for all other brands I believe.
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Yeah a new Venture magnesium truck would be pretty great, I don’t think there’s another truck company out there that manufactures them right now other than Tensor
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I'd ride a thunder mag.
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I’d ride a Venture that grinded like a Thunder…..
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I can't remember if venture actually released to the market a mag truck?  Weren't they prototype?

Idk. I was riding steel g&s Indy or gullwing at the time
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Filip on September 22, 2022, 03:35:17 PM
As a recent born Venture guy after 18-19 years of Thunders (one set of Theeves im between, back when they first came out), I just want to keep this thread going, so sorry if Im rambling.

Anyway, a quick update on my 6.1s that I posted about earlier. I skated them for the third time today. They were already broken in from the cruiser, but no grinding.

Today was the day that it all clicked. No more ghost pop, I figured out how to sync my legs with them, and its perfect. I absolutely love the turn, with stock bushings, no need to change.

I deliberately went to the park with chunky ledges to break them in and grind the shit out of them get at least a little bit of grooves. Grinding still feels a little strange, mostly due to not having the crook grooves, which I had down to the axle on my old Thunders, but at least I got something. Also, there is a little more resistance, but the grinds somehow feel a little more satisfying. I cant really explain it.

And last but not least, they look cool as shit, super vintage next to Thunders, haha.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bob Loblaw on September 23, 2022, 11:55:25 AM
I'm skating standard 149 Indy's and 5.8 V-Lights on two different 8.25 set ups. The lighter trucks are throwing me off, and I miss the feeling of the heavier truck inertia.
Has anyone skated the standard Ventures and V-Lights? Do the standard ones feel "off" or too clunky?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 24, 2022, 10:11:40 AM
I'm skating standard 149 Indy's and 5.8 V-Lights on two different 8.25 set ups. The lighter trucks are throwing me off, and I miss the feeling of the heavier truck inertia.
Has anyone skated the standard Ventures and V-Lights? Do the standard ones feel "off" or too clunky?
skated standards, lights, and hollows
hollows are preferred since i dont skate anything sub 8.75
8.25 with cast 5.8s probably have a similar feel in weight
but i might be talking out of my ass
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: huggernaut on September 25, 2022, 02:55:20 PM
Are the measurements on tactics just totally jacked?  Venture site also doesn’t seem to show axle height.

What are the typical axle heights for ventures?

I‘m looking at 5.8 or 6.1, not sure if I want v hollow or regular—is the only difference the baseplate in terms of height? 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: swongolianbbq on September 25, 2022, 03:25:17 PM
the cast ventures hi are 53.5 and the forged are prolly ~52mm.

I think the forged ones have a slightly longer wheelbase to compensate for the lower height

Cast are the way to go imo

Sucks if you want a lighter cast venture you have to get two sets of trucks and swap the hangers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: huggernaut on September 25, 2022, 04:00:38 PM
the cast ventures hi are 53.5 and the forged are prolly ~52mm.

I think the forged ones have a slightly longer wheelbase to compensate for the lower height

Cast are the way to go imo

Sucks if you want a lighter cast venture you have to get two sets of trucks and swap the hangers

Okay, thanks, that’s what I thought.

(https://i.ibb.co/DVn2ymP/34908027-E1-FA-43-DF-AD36-BA6-D922-D6129.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DVn2ymP)

This chart with the 54.7 seemed odd to me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: swongolianbbq on September 26, 2022, 06:20:02 PM
Yeah that doesn't seem right. Unless they're doing it like thunders, where different sizes have different heights. As far as I know all the hi's are 53.5mm high, maybe someone whose got some on hand can confirm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: huggernaut on September 26, 2022, 06:32:42 PM
Yeah that doesn't seem right. Unless they're doing it like thunders, where different sizes have different heights. As far as I know all the hi's are 53.5mm high, maybe someone whose got some on hand can confirm

I’ve got a pair is the team legion hi (forged plates) in the mail (sick sale from skate warehouse, $26 for the pair).

Can measure when they come in this week.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nitro89 on September 27, 2022, 12:36:22 AM
the cast ventures hi are 53.5 and the forged are prolly ~52mm.

I think the forged ones have a slightly longer wheelbase to compensate for the lower height

Cast are the way to go imo

Sucks if you want a lighter cast venture you have to get two sets of trucks and swap the hangers

im running my 5.6 hollow hanger on a set of cast plates that i had lying around from an old set of 5.2's right now as i wanted to bring my wheelbase back in a little and get that extra couple mm in height. I know its backwards having cast plates/solid kingpins with a hollow hanger but I didn't have standard 5.6 hangers so here we are and tbh I've been loving it. grinds feel a lot better on the cast plates even with the hollow axle and the extra weight under the bolts helps the board rise up with more energy to your feet.

I feel like I've got a lot of my pop back on this combo.

such a shame they don't make a 'team v-light or hollow'.

skated venture for 20+ years now and this would be the dream.

always looked at the team thunders with envy but cant shake that skaterat loyalty i gave to the big V when i was a kid.ha

fwiw info above is correct.
forged = 52mm
cast = 53.5mm

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 27, 2022, 08:44:03 AM
It sounds like you have the solution….you can just keep running those baseplates going forward.  You won…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on September 27, 2022, 10:40:27 AM
anyone ever get a baseplate (cast) that's uneven - meaning it mounts at an angle? something always felt off on the board i had it on and i kept eating shit. thought i had a mis-drilled board but it's looking like it was this baseplate all along maybe?
i can tell something is up because the mount holes are warped more on the uneven baseplate compared to the other i had on the same deck, esp for how long i had it set up/how much i skated it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 27, 2022, 07:14:23 PM
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the cast ventures hi are 53.5 and the forged are prolly ~52mm.

I think the forged ones have a slightly longer wheelbase to compensate for the lower height

Cast are the way to go imo

Sucks if you want a lighter cast venture you have to get two sets of trucks and swap the hangers
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im running my 5.6 hollow hanger on a set of cast plates that i had lying around from an old set of 5.2's right now as i wanted to bring my wheelbase back in a little and get that extra couple mm in height. I know its backwards having cast plates/solid kingpins with a hollow hanger but I didn't have standard 5.6 hangers so here we are and tbh I've been loving it. grinds feel a lot better on the cast plates even with the hollow axle and the extra weight under the bolts helps the board rise up with more energy to your feet.

I feel like I've got a lot of my pop back on this combo.

such a shame they don't make a 'team v-light or hollow'.

skated venture for 20+ years now and this would be the dream.

always looked at the team thunders with envy but cant shake that skaterat loyalty i gave to the big V when i was a kid.ha

fwiw info above is correct.
forged = 52mm
cast = 53.5mm

I'll add:

5.0 / 5.2 Lo - 48.3mm
Ben Degros mentions they are 48.3mm when he rode them with forged & cast baseplates so I don't know anymore.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nitro89 on September 28, 2022, 12:24:02 AM
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the cast ventures hi are 53.5 and the forged are prolly ~52mm.

I think the forged ones have a slightly longer wheelbase to compensate for the lower height

Cast are the way to go imo

Sucks if you want a lighter cast venture you have to get two sets of trucks and swap the hangers
[close]

im running my 5.6 hollow hanger on a set of cast plates that i had lying around from an old set of 5.2's right now as i wanted to bring my wheelbase back in a little and get that extra couple mm in height. I know its backwards having cast plates/solid kingpins with a hollow hanger but I didn't have standard 5.6 hangers so here we are and tbh I've been loving it. grinds feel a lot better on the cast plates even with the hollow axle and the extra weight under the bolts helps the board rise up with more energy to your feet.

I feel like I've got a lot of my pop back on this combo.

such a shame they don't make a 'team v-light or hollow'.

skated venture for 20+ years now and this would be the dream.

always looked at the team thunders with envy but cant shake that skaterat loyalty i gave to the big V when i was a kid.ha

fwiw info above is correct.
forged = 52mm
cast = 53.5mm
[close]

I'll add:

5.0 / 5.2 Lo - 48.3mm
Ben Degros mentions they are 48.3mm when he rode them with forged & cast baseplates so I don't know anymore.

yea forgot to mention thats just for the highs, its the hanger on the lows that make the difference (less axle clearance).
from what i can see looking around online all lows are 48mm whether they've got forged or cast plates. whereas on the highs there's 2 different heights 52mm and 53.5mm.

has anyone ever asked venture themselves?



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 28, 2022, 12:47:50 AM
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the cast ventures hi are 53.5 and the forged are prolly ~52mm.

I think the forged ones have a slightly longer wheelbase to compensate for the lower height

Cast are the way to go imo

Sucks if you want a lighter cast venture you have to get two sets of trucks and swap the hangers
[close]

im running my 5.6 hollow hanger on a set of cast plates that i had lying around from an old set of 5.2's right now as i wanted to bring my wheelbase back in a little and get that extra couple mm in height. I know its backwards having cast plates/solid kingpins with a hollow hanger but I didn't have standard 5.6 hangers so here we are and tbh I've been loving it. grinds feel a lot better on the cast plates even with the hollow axle and the extra weight under the bolts helps the board rise up with more energy to your feet.

I feel like I've got a lot of my pop back on this combo.

such a shame they don't make a 'team v-light or hollow'.

skated venture for 20+ years now and this would be the dream.

always looked at the team thunders with envy but cant shake that skaterat loyalty i gave to the big V when i was a kid.ha

fwiw info above is correct.
forged = 52mm
cast = 53.5mm
[close]

I'll add:

5.0 / 5.2 Lo - 48.3mm
Ben Degros mentions they are 48.3mm when he rode them with forged & cast baseplates so I don't know anymore.
[close]

yea forgot to mention thats just for the highs, its the hanger on the lows that make the difference (less axle clearance).
from what i can see looking around online all lows are 48mm whether they've got forged or cast plates. whereas on the highs there's 2 different heights 52mm and 53.5mm.

has anyone ever asked venture themselves?

Fine I'll DM them like a man.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nitro89 on September 28, 2022, 02:08:33 AM
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the cast ventures hi are 53.5 and the forged are prolly ~52mm.

I think the forged ones have a slightly longer wheelbase to compensate for the lower height

Cast are the way to go imo

Sucks if you want a lighter cast venture you have to get two sets of trucks and swap the hangers
[close]

im running my 5.6 hollow hanger on a set of cast plates that i had lying around from an old set of 5.2's right now as i wanted to bring my wheelbase back in a little and get that extra couple mm in height. I know its backwards having cast plates/solid kingpins with a hollow hanger but I didn't have standard 5.6 hangers so here we are and tbh I've been loving it. grinds feel a lot better on the cast plates even with the hollow axle and the extra weight under the bolts helps the board rise up with more energy to your feet.

I feel like I've got a lot of my pop back on this combo.

such a shame they don't make a 'team v-light or hollow'.

skated venture for 20+ years now and this would be the dream.

always looked at the team thunders with envy but cant shake that skaterat loyalty i gave to the big V when i was a kid.ha

fwiw info above is correct.
forged = 52mm
cast = 53.5mm
[close]

I'll add:

5.0 / 5.2 Lo - 48.3mm
Ben Degros mentions they are 48.3mm when he rode them with forged & cast baseplates so I don't know anymore.
[close]

yea forgot to mention thats just for the highs, its the hanger on the lows that make the difference (less axle clearance).
from what i can see looking around online all lows are 48mm whether they've got forged or cast plates. whereas on the highs there's 2 different heights 52mm and 53.5mm.

has anyone ever asked venture themselves?
[close]

Fine I'll DM them like a man.

111 pages in and someone has finally made the move for the answer that should of been on page 1.haha
#powermoves
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 28, 2022, 05:46:28 PM

I don't think I have ever seen a forged baseplate on a low Venture.

Sure they are listed on the web site, and I have plenty of old skinny low Venture hangers, which all came with normal cast plates, but I cannot think of one single time I have ever seen that combination.


Forged plates on 5.6 and 5.8 are fairly common and I have had a few sets of those come through my hands.

I also wonder when looking at that combination how many people would or even could ride a truck that low.

Any takers for that, or anyone actually have a set?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on September 28, 2022, 08:14:05 PM

I don't think I have ever seen a forged baseplate on a low Venture.

Sure they are listed on the web site, and I have plenty of old skinny low Venture hangers, which all came with normal cast plates, but I cannot think of one single time I have ever seen that combination.


Forged plates on 5.6 and 5.8 are fairly common and I have had a few sets of those come through my hands.

I also wonder when looking at that combination how many people would or even could ride a truck that low.

Any takers for that, or anyone actually have a set?

i have forged on a set of 5.0L's (frankensteined) on an 8. i don't ride them super loose & that's not my main set up so i haven't been on it in a minute but from memory -

pros: pinch is incredible, height doesn't really feel much different, hollow kp
cons: wheel bite

honestly though it doesn't feel so much different than normal lows other than the slight weight difference, but it's mostly flatground on that thing.

curious about others though, because yeah when i look at it i laugh and go "it's SO low"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 28, 2022, 10:05:23 PM
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I don't think I have ever seen a forged baseplate on a low Venture.

Sure they are listed on the web site, and I have plenty of old skinny low Venture hangers, which all came with normal cast plates, but I cannot think of one single time I have ever seen that combination.


Forged plates on 5.6 and 5.8 are fairly common and I have had a few sets of those come through my hands.

I also wonder when looking at that combination how many people would or even could ride a truck that low.

Any takers for that, or anyone actually have a set?
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i have forged on a set of 5.0L's (frankensteined) on an 8. i don't ride them super loose & that's not my main set up so i haven't been on it in a minute but from memory -

pros: pinch is incredible, height doesn't really feel much different, hollow kp
cons: wheel bite

honestly though it doesn't feel so much different than normal lows other than the slight weight difference, but it's mostly flatground on that thing.

curious about others though, because yeah when i look at it i laugh and go "it's SO low"


As per a couple of smaller boards I set up for kids with these old / vintage Venture low trucks, they definitely had small wheels on them and worked well for their size, quite proportionate actually.

Didn't really try much on them, but for a 7.5 wide board, those trucks, sub 50mm wheels they were a tech dream back in the day, I would imagine.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nitro89 on September 29, 2022, 12:16:08 AM

I don't think I have ever seen a forged baseplate on a low Venture.

Sure they are listed on the web site, and I have plenty of old skinny low Venture hangers, which all came with normal cast plates, but I cannot think of one single time I have ever seen that combination.


Forged plates on 5.6 and 5.8 are fairly common and I have had a few sets of those come through my hands.

I also wonder when looking at that combination how many people would or even could ride a truck that low.

Any takers for that, or anyone actually have a set?

heres some: https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-v-hollow-lights-all-polished-low-5-2-truck-silver-8_p127416?eav=792&cPath=44&brand_id=98

ive never seen them out in the wild but then again i don't go around inspecting decks a whole lot when im out for a session.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on September 30, 2022, 03:16:48 AM
Just back on Ventures, hollows... that hefty snap is so good. The Loose Kit-Bushings are crazy loose, but I like it. Twitchy (!), turny, but not that much wheelbite so far (little worn down 54mm wheels).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 30, 2022, 03:22:21 AM
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I don't think I have ever seen a forged baseplate on a low Venture.

Sure they are listed on the web site, and I have plenty of old skinny low Venture hangers, which all came with normal cast plates, but I cannot think of one single time I have ever seen that combination.


Forged plates on 5.6 and 5.8 are fairly common and I have had a few sets of those come through my hands.

I also wonder when looking at that combination how many people would or even could ride a truck that low.

Any takers for that, or anyone actually have a set?
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heres some: https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-v-hollow-lights-all-polished-low-5-2-truck-silver-8_p127416?eav=792&cPath=44&brand_id=98

ive never seen them out in the wild but then again i don't go around inspecting decks a whole lot when im out for a session.


Thanks!

It still looks funny to me, but that's ok.

I know some other things I am used to like standard Indy trucks look way too tall to other people I know.

All down to personal perspectives.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 30, 2022, 04:17:59 PM
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the cast ventures hi are 53.5 and the forged are prolly ~52mm.

I think the forged ones have a slightly longer wheelbase to compensate for the lower height

Cast are the way to go imo

Sucks if you want a lighter cast venture you have to get two sets of trucks and swap the hangers
[close]

im running my 5.6 hollow hanger on a set of cast plates that i had lying around from an old set of 5.2's right now as i wanted to bring my wheelbase back in a little and get that extra couple mm in height. I know its backwards having cast plates/solid kingpins with a hollow hanger but I didn't have standard 5.6 hangers so here we are and tbh I've been loving it. grinds feel a lot better on the cast plates even with the hollow axle and the extra weight under the bolts helps the board rise up with more energy to your feet.

I feel like I've got a lot of my pop back on this combo.

such a shame they don't make a 'team v-light or hollow'.

skated venture for 20+ years now and this would be the dream.

always looked at the team thunders with envy but cant shake that skaterat loyalty i gave to the big V when i was a kid.ha

fwiw info above is correct.
forged = 52mm
cast = 53.5mm
[close]

I'll add:

5.0 / 5.2 Lo - 48.3mm
Ben Degros mentions they are 48.3mm when he rode them with forged & cast baseplates so I don't know anymore.
[close]

yea forgot to mention thats just for the highs, its the hanger on the lows that make the difference (less axle clearance).
from what i can see looking around online all lows are 48mm whether they've got forged or cast plates. whereas on the highs there's 2 different heights 52mm and 53.5mm.

has anyone ever asked venture themselves?
[close]

Fine I'll DM them like a man.
[close]

111 pages in and someone has finally made the move for the answer that should of been on page 1.haha
#powermoves

From the horse's mouth:
Venture heights

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82mm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on September 30, 2022, 07:22:35 PM
Would gnar if I could. Top notch investigating.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 30, 2022, 09:30:51 PM
I recommend a pivot cup upgrade if you run the lowering kit no threads and you don't go through trucks fast.

I take trucks to axle because an old truck it a foot truck. I even will run old plates new hangers sometimes.

I will be just throwing the hollow king plates back on with a second set of 3 ply risers

I need to buy grip soon. I chipped my board practicing switch flips.

These slips are too grippy. I keep doing those ugly veez that people think is a trick.

It's a failed v that's all. I don't care anything anyone says about it. You can't fool me

Also kickflip body = sex not disco.

Disco is heelz. I been correcting that shit on the gram too
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 01, 2022, 12:38:04 AM
Would gnar if I could. Top notch investigating.

Explains why I love the grind on 5.2 Lo Forged, 2nd to none pinch.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 01, 2022, 06:53:57 PM
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Would gnar if I could. Top notch investigating.
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Explains why I love the grind on 5.2 Lo Forged, 2nd to none pinch.

I like my 5.2 lo’s for nostalgic reasons, and they just feel like trucks are supposed to feel, for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Spaced Cadet on October 03, 2022, 03:08:26 PM
I just swapped back to ace from venture and I gotta ask. How tf yall kickflip with ventures? Mine were constantly rocket and looking like dogshit even with smaller wheelbase decks. Tre flips and other tricks felt good or better on venture than ace/indy but I can't kickflip. It felt like I had to relearn how to do them every session. I just couldn't level them out consistently. Shit was just driving me crazy so I just set my aces up and have no problem now. Anyone else struggle with certain tricks on venture? How'd you make it work?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 03, 2022, 03:32:52 PM
for those who swear by running ventures with larger wbs
how is the experience? what shapes are you riding?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: juniormint on October 03, 2022, 04:07:51 PM
Kickflips were never more consistent when I had my 6.1s setup with a magenta 8.75 which had a 14.75 wheelbase, 32.5 long I think. Was a pretty mellow deck, classic bbs shape. Very stable, a bit of a chore when i didn’t have the legs, especially for rotational tricks, but kickflips and heelflips were easy, like strangely effortless.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 03, 2022, 07:23:37 PM
I just swapped back to ace from venture and I gotta ask. How tf yall kickflip with ventures? Mine were constantly rocket and looking like dogshit even with smaller wheelbase decks. Tre flips and other tricks felt good or better on venture than ace/indy but I can't kickflip. It felt like I had to relearn how to do them every session. I just couldn't level them out consistently. Shit was just driving me crazy so I just set my aces up and have no problem now. Anyone else struggle with certain tricks on venture? How'd you make it work?

I adjust my front foot position depending on the trucks I'm riding. Ace / ML - wider stance with my front foot just over the front bolts, resulting in a faster but lower kickflip. Thunder / Venture - narrower stance and I can put my front foot almost in the middle of my board, slow drag and delayed flick for more height.

For Venture especially I have to focus on getting a solid snap off my tail since they pop heavy.

for those who swear by running ventures with larger wbs
how is the experience? what shapes are you riding?

How long is long for WB? I used to swear by 14.125" or less on forged baseplates and 14.25" max on cast baseplates but I've been on a Santa Cruz 14.38" with forged baseplates and I've really loving the combination. More deck length (32.25") and tapered kicks are very helpful.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 03, 2022, 08:10:16 PM
Kick frum behind the bolts through the nose
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Spaced Cadet on October 03, 2022, 08:25:15 PM
Kick frum behind the bolts through the nose

That's kind of what I did when I rode them with but mixed results. Rocklobster is saying he does them with his foot further down though? idk I may experiment again. Shit is gonna drive me crazy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on October 04, 2022, 06:51:20 AM
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Kick frum behind the bolts through the nose
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That's kind of what I did when I rode them with but mixed results. Rocklobster is saying he does them with his foot further down though? idk I may experiment again. Shit is gonna drive me crazy.

edit: typo

You have to try a bit hard with thunders ventures, but the result is generally a higher kickflip. This was my experience anyway. Ace i had very light, low, lazy kickflips, but they we pretty easy. Venture i had some pretty high and powerful kickflips, but they required more effort, and the added pop heft made it harder for me to find the right technique for doing flip tricks off different ramps of varying steepness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cosmicgypsies on October 04, 2022, 06:59:20 AM
for those who swear by running ventures with larger wbs
how is the experience? what shapes are you riding?

skated 2 polars back to back on 5.6 standards, both 8.5 x 32.125 x 14.5wb

https://i.imgur.com/eLwI2Hhl.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/949345596253298798/971415309133185044/IMG_20220504_151705.jpg

had no issues honestly, flatground game was probably the best it's been on that config.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 04, 2022, 02:50:48 PM
I’ve found pointing my toe straight forward and doing them like a child is the only thing I can muster….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 04, 2022, 02:56:29 PM
I find I like the almost no pop slow flipper.

I put my front foot like over and above the bolts.

Like half inch behind the nose pocket.

Then I put my back foot center with mad tail showing so it's hard to push down. Almost standing on the truck kinda duck footed so my heel is like off board next to the bolts.

I Ollie through the resistance and it strikes the ground fast like a light switch.

I dig my toe into the nose joint piece feel the tension with my knee way out front and flick like a mad man.

It makes a heavy like long distance kickflip that feels like throwing a long bomb meatball pass.

Then step on it as it hits the ground and hope to twist a last af back 80 on the other side of the crosswalk.

Lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on October 05, 2022, 06:03:36 AM
Are these Venture pants I see

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ci5Z9krP9Vw/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on October 05, 2022, 08:00:30 AM
Are these Venture pants I see

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ci5Z9krP9Vw/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
John Dilo also had the same pants on a couple of days ago
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on October 05, 2022, 08:03:00 AM
I find I like the almost no pop slow flipper.

I put my front foot like over and above the bolts.

Like half inch behind the nose pocket.

Then I put my back foot center with mad tail showing so it's hard to push down. Almost standing on the truck kinda duck footed so my heel is like off board next to the bolts.

I Ollie through the resistance and it strikes the ground fast like a light switch.

I dig my toe into the nose joint piece feel the tension with my knee way out front and flick like a mad man.

It makes a heavy like long distance kickflip that feels like throwing a long bomb meatball pass.

Then step on it as it hits the ground and hope to twist a last af back 80 on the other side of the crosswalk.

Lol

im opposite of u, high pop fast flick
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on October 05, 2022, 08:14:38 AM
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Are these Venture pants I see

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ci5Z9krP9Vw/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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John Dilo also had the same pants on a couple of days ago

Dam I want them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on October 05, 2022, 08:36:43 AM
Quasi 8.125 is a dream with Venture low
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Knee Pain on October 05, 2022, 09:04:29 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/c2yGvSV/C0406-DC1-BD37-4-C4-B-BEAC-D2-F87-B9-DB450.jpg)

These look interesting… v cast v hollows?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on October 05, 2022, 09:11:19 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/c2yGvSV/C0406-DC1-BD37-4-C4-B-BEAC-D2-F87-B9-DB450.jpg)

These look interesting… v cast v hollows?

god damit take my money
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on October 05, 2022, 09:33:50 AM
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(https://i.ibb.co/c2yGvSV/C0406-DC1-BD37-4-C4-B-BEAC-D2-F87-B9-DB450.jpg)

These look interesting… v cast v hollows?
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god damit take my money
was about to post this lol not sure if the axles will be hollow but it's nice to see a hollow kingpin in a cast plate option
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on October 05, 2022, 10:29:16 AM
stoked for all you venture dudes, i hope the axle is hollow too. I know you guys have been wanting these for a bit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 05, 2022, 10:39:58 AM
IKP should arrive sometime in 2024 I bet….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on October 05, 2022, 10:47:34 AM
IKP should arrive sometime in 2024 I bet….

Venture has so much clearance, they are like the last brand that needs it. I hope they just avoid IKP unless they have solved the issues that come with it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sacking rails on October 05, 2022, 01:07:45 PM
venture have the best tail/nose slide and smith/feeble no need for ikp
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 05, 2022, 01:46:03 PM
lows in 5.6/5.8/6.1 is now the final frontier
venture 6.5 is the wildcard
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 05, 2022, 01:48:02 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/c2yGvSV/C0406-DC1-BD37-4-C4-B-BEAC-D2-F87-B9-DB450.jpg)

These look interesting… v cast v hollows?
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god damit take my money
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was about to post this lol not sure if the axles will be hollow but it's nice to see a hollow kingpin in a cast plate option

we can assume it's a hollow axle b/c the v-hollow name vs v-light, no?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mick on October 05, 2022, 01:52:31 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/c2yGvSV/C0406-DC1-BD37-4-C4-B-BEAC-D2-F87-B9-DB450.jpg)

These look interesting… v cast v hollows?
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god damit take my money
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was about to post this lol not sure if the axles will be hollow but it's nice to see a hollow kingpin in a cast plate option
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we can assume it's a hollow axle b/c the v-hollow name vs v-light, no?
Precisely.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on October 05, 2022, 01:54:18 PM
wish they were polished but i’ll settle for raw
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on October 05, 2022, 01:57:58 PM
wish they were polished but i’ll settle for raw

There should be another collab model coming out, also v-hollow and should be polished
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: brownjenkin on October 05, 2022, 03:18:27 PM
For fuck's sake. I'll have no choice but to get a set when they release a polished version.

If there was one truck that was going to pull me away from Indy again, it's this one.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on October 05, 2022, 03:20:15 PM
I really like the grind on a raw finish truck. Used to get the raw finish Thunder all the time back in the day because to me it grinds smoother. Placebo probably but it just felt different to me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 05, 2022, 03:27:45 PM
For fuck's sake. I'll have no choice but to get a set when they release a polished version.

If there was one truck that was going to pull me away from Indy again, it's this one.
welcome back
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: juniormint on October 05, 2022, 03:39:14 PM
So good, hopefully they make these in 6.1 also.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on October 05, 2022, 03:55:55 PM
When are these out?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 05, 2022, 06:32:49 PM
lows in 5.6/5.8/6.1 is now the final frontier
venture 6.5 is the wildcard

Quit honey dicking us Venture and give the dozen or so of us what we want!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: huggernaut on October 05, 2022, 06:54:37 PM
So good, hopefully they make these in 6.1 also.

Based on the size boards he rides I feel like there’s a good chance?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 05, 2022, 09:02:37 PM
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Are these Venture pants I see

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ci5Z9krP9Vw/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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John Dilo also had the same pants on a couple of days ago

Idk if I need to be that awake. Maybe if it was like black sweats with the side print. Vintage Winged V thrasher colab thing maybe? Pull them up with high socks and some AF1s and a painters cap.  Trash zone.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PolarJames on October 06, 2022, 05:37:13 AM
I'm not really sure which trucks to go for. I'm in between Venture cast 6.1, or the 6.1 hollows or Thunder lites 151. My deck is a 14.38 wheelbase, will the venture hollow lights be too much with the extended wheelbase? I might bve thinking too much about this ha.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Filip on October 06, 2022, 06:41:13 AM
I just did this transition a month ago, from 151s to 6.1 Ventures. I love them. Wheelbase is a little longer, I had ghostpop for about 2 days, but since it clicked, this has been the best change to my setup in years.

Not that deep of an analysis, but do it man.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 06, 2022, 06:57:39 AM
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Are these Venture pants I see

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ci5Z9krP9Vw/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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John Dilo also had the same pants on a couple of days ago
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Idk if I need to be that awake. Maybe if it was like black sweats with the side print. Vintage Winged V thrasher colab thing maybe? Pull them up with high socks and some AF1s and a painters cap.  Trash zone.

Pants are like the trucks of soft goods…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PolarJames on October 06, 2022, 07:37:38 AM
I just did this transition a month ago, from 151s to 6.1 Ventures. I love them. Wheelbase is a little longer, I had ghostpop for about 2 days, but since it clicked, this has been the best change to my setup in years.

Not that deep of an analysis, but do it man.

Cheers, think I might get the thunders and ventures and whichever I prefer less will put on a cruiser board. Have been skating aces and am not a massive fan of the pop feel.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on October 06, 2022, 11:25:27 AM
Are these Venture pants I see

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ci5Z9krP9Vw/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

What's the wheelbase on these?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: kneebone on October 06, 2022, 09:16:58 PM
Somebody please get Gino some proper sized ventures
https://www.instagram.com/p/CjX6krxLCD-/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rosemaryBB on October 10, 2022, 02:25:02 PM
Wide boards with super magic carpeted trucks are pretty fun though honestly. Way easier to flick and control flips with in my experience. This setup looks really doofy though ngl
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 10, 2022, 06:20:40 PM
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Are these Venture pants I see

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ci5Z9krP9Vw/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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What's the wheelbase on these?

https://www.tactics.com/venture/paid-cargo-pants/black
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 10, 2022, 07:02:47 PM
Leg opening is the wheelbase of pants….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 10, 2022, 07:21:38 PM
I have a good feeling about the lowering kit for winter skating. My bushings are fully broken in. I had to tighten my back truck a little so several threads are showing.

I know I'll be able to turn this year and I won't have to ace.

These a good days fam. I really really really have never been this happy with my set up.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on October 11, 2022, 08:09:44 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cjk8BWOrsf3/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

The post is up for these. Hollow kingpin and axle confirmed.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 11, 2022, 08:19:48 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cjk8BWOrsf3/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

The post is up for these. Hollow kingpin and axle confirmed.

well shiiiiit there goes some of my money
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: huggernaut on October 11, 2022, 08:21:05 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cjk8BWOrsf3/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

The post is up for these. Hollow kingpin and axle confirmed.


Cool that they have a cast base plate. Lame that there is no 6.1.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Knee Pain on October 11, 2022, 08:25:57 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cjk8BWOrsf3/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

The post is up for these. Hollow kingpin and axle confirmed.

Definitely will be my next pair once I’ve got through my current 5.8s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on October 11, 2022, 08:43:44 AM
raw trucks look like they are made of stone
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on October 11, 2022, 08:52:58 AM
I just want to say... 2022 Venture stock translucent purple bushings are the best bushings ever.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on October 13, 2022, 03:28:14 PM
Just for anybody looking for loose Ventures:
Personally, after two weeks of skating I had to swap out at least the bottom bushing of my "Loose Kit", because it was just too twitchy and turny and uncontrollable.
Now using Indy soft conicals and hoping it'll hold up a bit better.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on October 13, 2022, 05:12:16 PM
Just set up a board with my 5.8s again, they have a cut down Ace top bushing with a flat washer. Feels even better than I remember.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on October 15, 2022, 10:48:05 AM
1st day ever on ventures (5.6 v-lights):

They felt amazing, the turn was so much better than expected, I was about to be fully awake, BUT THEN:

The bushings broke in? They got super hard and the trucks pretty much stopped turning. The nut is barely on and it's still far from enough. They went from perfect to terrible in about 30 minutes.

Which bushings will give me the feel of venture bushings BEFORE they break in?

Coming from thunders, manuals felt ridiculously easy. Like they just held themselves. I'm happy, but the turn needs to change.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on October 15, 2022, 10:52:04 AM
1st day ever on ventures (5.6 v-lights):

They felt amazing, the turn was so much better than expected, I was about to be fully awake, BUT THEN:

The bushings broke in? They got super hard and the trucks pretty much stopped turning. The nut is barely on and it's still far from enough. They went from perfect to terrible in about 30 minutes.

Which bushings will give me the feel of venture bushings BEFORE they break in?

Coming from thunders, manuals felt ridiculously easy. Like they just held themselves. I'm happy, but the turn needs to change.

Definitely indy 90a, broke some stock venture top bushing. Untill I have no spare left. Then I throw indy bushing in them. Running well now, but I live in a place almost always above 15 degree C
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 15, 2022, 11:43:13 AM
1st day ever on ventures (5.6 v-lights):

They felt amazing, the turn was so much better than expected, I was about to be fully awake, BUT THEN:

The bushings broke in? They got super hard and the trucks pretty much stopped turning. The nut is barely on and it's still far from enough. They went from perfect to terrible in about 30 minutes.

Which bushings will give me the feel of venture bushings BEFORE they break in?

Coming from thunders, manuals felt ridiculously easy. Like they just held themselves. I'm happy, but the turn needs to change.

supercush 90a (stock duro of venture) or 88a if you're feeling frisky, also check/wax your pivot cup
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 15, 2022, 11:47:42 AM
1st day ever on ventures (5.6 v-lights):

They felt amazing, the turn was so much better than expected, I was about to be fully awake, BUT THEN:

The bushings broke in? They got super hard and the trucks pretty much stopped turning. The nut is barely on and it's still far from enough. They went from perfect to terrible in about 30 minutes.

Which bushings will give me the feel of venture bushings BEFORE they break in?

Coming from thunders, manuals felt ridiculously easy. Like they just held themselves. I'm happy, but the turn needs to change.

White Indy replacement
The dlxsf low rider kit I been using.

The purple will loosen back up in like few months. Honestly I'd just take .5mm off the top little less of the bottom.

I've found that ventures don't do well with a conical bushing. Takes from the Manny ability
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on October 15, 2022, 04:28:54 PM
Do the venture stocks really tighten up that much after the first thirty minutes when they’re broken in? Never skated the stocks, always just put in aftermarkets right off the bat with every set of ventures I’ve had, but my next set I was gonna try to skate the stock bushings. I prefer a more medium tight truck anyways so it might just work out to my liking.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on October 16, 2022, 12:34:54 PM
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1st day ever on ventures (5.6 v-lights):

They felt amazing, the turn was so much better than expected, I was about to be fully awake, BUT THEN:

The bushings broke in? They got super hard and the trucks pretty much stopped turning. The nut is barely on and it's still far from enough. They went from perfect to terrible in about 30 minutes.

Which bushings will give me the feel of venture bushings BEFORE they break in?

Coming from thunders, manuals felt ridiculously easy. Like they just held themselves. I'm happy, but the turn needs to change.
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White Indy replacement
The dlxsf low rider kit I been using.

The purple will loosen back up in like few months. Honestly I'd just take .5mm off the top little less of the bottom.

I've found that ventures don't do well with a conical bushing. Takes from the Manny ability

A homie hooked me up with the white indy super soft 78a. I thought those would be unrideable but they really are perfect. Thank you for the recommendation
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thanksgiving on October 17, 2022, 11:23:10 AM
venture bushing color tier list? are the different colors really that different or just placebo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: huggernaut on October 17, 2022, 11:33:34 AM
venture bushing color tier list? are the different colors really that different or just placebo

Was curious about this, just got a set in the mail with green but the bottom bushing in both is different. One is cloudy and one is actually shorter and feels different in terms of hardness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 17, 2022, 11:42:12 AM
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venture bushing color tier list? are the different colors really that different or just placebo
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Was curious about this, just got a set in the mail with green but the bottom bushing in both is different. One is cloudy and one is actually shorter and feels different in terms of hardness.

well that sounds odd, pics?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: huggernaut on October 17, 2022, 12:02:24 PM
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venture bushing color tier list? are the different colors really that different or just placebo
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Was curious about this, just got a set in the mail with green but the bottom bushing in both is different. One is cloudy and one is actually shorter and feels different in terms of hardness.
[close]

well that sounds odd, pics?

(https://i.ibb.co/chqnK0q/593-EE7-E2-3-DB5-4-BAE-8853-B0-CA49-E41-E4-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chqnK0q)(https://i.ibb.co/gTJr9gB/56-DA1154-3972-435-F-810-C-4-B3-EF569-D784.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gTJr9gB)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 17, 2022, 12:31:54 PM
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1st day ever on ventures (5.6 v-lights):

They felt amazing, the turn was so much better than expected, I was about to be fully awake, BUT THEN:

The bushings broke in? They got super hard and the trucks pretty much stopped turning. The nut is barely on and it's still far from enough. They went from perfect to terrible in about 30 minutes.

Which bushings will give me the feel of venture bushings BEFORE they break in?

Coming from thunders, manuals felt ridiculously easy. Like they just held themselves. I'm happy, but the turn needs to change.
[close]

White Indy replacement
The dlxsf low rider kit I been using.

The purple will loosen back up in like few months. Honestly I'd just take .5mm off the top little less of the bottom.

I've found that ventures don't do well with a conical bushing. Takes from the Manny ability
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A homie hooked me up with the white indy super soft 78a. I thought those would be unrideable but they really are perfect. Thank you for the recommendation

Hell yeah np. There's a few pals who do that bushing. They are sick. They do freeze up.

If I wanna ride my trucks in sub zero for more than a few hrs I used a Bones top bushing from time to time.

I am the type to skate more in cold weather.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 17, 2022, 01:33:55 PM
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venture bushing color tier list? are the different colors really that different or just placebo
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Was curious about this, just got a set in the mail with green but the bottom bushing in both is different. One is cloudy and one is actually shorter and feels different in terms of hardness.
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well that sounds odd, pics?
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(https://i.ibb.co/chqnK0q/593-EE7-E2-3-DB5-4-BAE-8853-B0-CA49-E41-E4-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chqnK0q)(https://i.ibb.co/gTJr9gB/56-DA1154-3972-435-F-810-C-4-B3-EF569-D784.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gTJr9gB)

that shorter one doesn't look like any venture bushing i've had for sure. from where and what set did you get? the only ones with green stock recently are these that i'm aware of -
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring22/07-ve-sp22-d1-92-full-bleed.jpg)

the supercush 94's are green but way more opaque than that imo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 17, 2022, 01:40:35 PM
I happily skate bones and don’t think they make manuals worse….I’m quite light though.  The geo pretty much doesn’t swerve and lets you put a lot of weight on the respective toe/heel with lots of room before you wheelbite.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: huggernaut on October 17, 2022, 02:12:58 PM
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Was curious about this, just got a set in the mail with green but the bottom bushing in both is different. One is cloudy and one is actually shorter and feels different in terms of hardness.
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well that sounds odd, pics?
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(https://i.ibb.co/chqnK0q/593-EE7-E2-3-DB5-4-BAE-8853-B0-CA49-E41-E4-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chqnK0q)(https://i.ibb.co/gTJr9gB/56-DA1154-3972-435-F-810-C-4-B3-EF569-D784.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gTJr9gB)
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that shorter one doesn't look like any venture bushing i've had for sure. from where and what set did you get? the only ones with green stock recently are these that i'm aware of -
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring22/07-ve-sp22-d1-92-full-bleed.jpg)

the supercush 94's are green but way more opaque than that imo

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Venture_Team_Legion_Trucks/descpage-VTTLTR.html

Bought a set of these recently (the 5.8 ones with the green baseplate) from SW and they’re the bushings they arrived with?

 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 17, 2022, 02:34:19 PM
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Was curious about this, just got a set in the mail with green but the bottom bushing in both is different. One is cloudy and one is actually shorter and feels different in terms of hardness.
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well that sounds odd, pics?
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(https://i.ibb.co/chqnK0q/593-EE7-E2-3-DB5-4-BAE-8853-B0-CA49-E41-E4-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chqnK0q)(https://i.ibb.co/gTJr9gB/56-DA1154-3972-435-F-810-C-4-B3-EF569-D784.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gTJr9gB)
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that shorter one doesn't look like any venture bushing i've had for sure. from where and what set did you get? the only ones with green stock recently are these that i'm aware of -
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring22/07-ve-sp22-d1-92-full-bleed.jpg)

the supercush 94's are green but way more opaque than that imo
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https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Venture_Team_Legion_Trucks/descpage-VTTLTR.html

Bought a set of these recently (the 5.8 ones with the green baseplate) from SW and they’re the bushings they arrived with?

 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

ahh yeah forgot about those! still not how they should be as you are obviously aware.
could try hitting up dlx with the picture and asking them for some replacements bushings but idk how the response would be there
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: brownjenkin on October 17, 2022, 03:48:36 PM
Stock purple and green bushings are highest tier in my mind, but I am fully aware that it could just be in my head. They have to be translucent though

I don't trust cloudy or solid-coloured bushings with the exception of Indy orange bushings or bones

I almost impulse-bought the Del Campo pro models just because I found the green bushings in them so attractive
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 17, 2022, 07:20:20 PM
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Was curious about this, just got a set in the mail with green but the bottom bushing in both is different. One is cloudy and one is actually shorter and feels different in terms of hardness.
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well that sounds odd, pics?
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(https://i.ibb.co/chqnK0q/593-EE7-E2-3-DB5-4-BAE-8853-B0-CA49-E41-E4-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chqnK0q)(https://i.ibb.co/gTJr9gB/56-DA1154-3972-435-F-810-C-4-B3-EF569-D784.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gTJr9gB)
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that shorter one doesn't look like any venture bushing i've had for sure. from where and what set did you get? the only ones with green stock recently are these that i'm aware of -
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring22/07-ve-sp22-d1-92-full-bleed.jpg)

the supercush 94's are green but way more opaque than that imo
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https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Venture_Team_Legion_Trucks/descpage-VTTLTR.html

Bought a set of these recently (the 5.8 ones with the green baseplate) from SW and they’re the bushings they arrived with?

 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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ahh yeah forgot about those! still not how they should be as you are obviously aware.
could try hitting up dlx with the picture and asking them for some replacements bushings but idk how the response would be there

Maybe they are from 2 different batches of trucks that didn't come as a pair? SWH sells trucks individually so they pack whatever they grab first.

Stock purple and green bushings are highest tier in my mind, but I am fully aware that it could just be in my head. They have to be translucent though

I don't trust cloudy or solid-coloured bushings with the exception of Indy orange bushings or bones

I almost impulse-bought the Del Campo pro models just because I found the green bushings in them so attractive

Purple and red are best.
Green next.
White are dead last.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 18, 2022, 07:56:18 AM
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Was curious about this, just got a set in the mail with green but the bottom bushing in both is different. One is cloudy and one is actually shorter and feels different in terms of hardness.
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well that sounds odd, pics?
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(https://i.ibb.co/chqnK0q/593-EE7-E2-3-DB5-4-BAE-8853-B0-CA49-E41-E4-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chqnK0q)(https://i.ibb.co/gTJr9gB/56-DA1154-3972-435-F-810-C-4-B3-EF569-D784.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gTJr9gB)
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that shorter one doesn't look like any venture bushing i've had for sure. from where and what set did you get? the only ones with green stock recently are these that i'm aware of -
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring22/07-ve-sp22-d1-92-full-bleed.jpg)

the supercush 94's are green but way more opaque than that imo
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https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Venture_Team_Legion_Trucks/descpage-VTTLTR.html

Bought a set of these recently (the 5.8 ones with the green baseplate) from SW and they’re the bushings they arrived with?

 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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ahh yeah forgot about those! still not how they should be as you are obviously aware.
could try hitting up dlx with the picture and asking them for some replacements bushings but idk how the response would be there
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Maybe they are from 2 different batches of trucks that didn't come as a pair? SWH sells trucks individually so they pack whatever they grab first.

true true! honestly it's probably this, my only hesitation about that was that the trucks aren't the standard polished so i was finding it odd that there would be that kind of variation in a season run w/r/t bushings.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sacking rails on October 18, 2022, 08:01:17 AM
imagine not riding ventures lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Knee Pain on October 18, 2022, 10:28:54 AM
Anyone ever tried indy pivot cups in their ventures? My front one is split and it’s hard to find riptides in the UK.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on October 18, 2022, 12:31:16 PM
I expected to dislike these trucks and didn't know why anybody would ride trucks that don't turn that well, but I get it now.
Held my longest front crook ever today. And finally got fs 180 fakie mannies on lock. These trucks are insane.

There's one thing I don't understand though: My nose/tailslides on ledges stick way more than with thunders. I expected the opposite. Anybody had the same experience? Even with a lot of wax everywhere, same wheels same deck.

I'm not used to the long baseplate sliding, but I feel like there shouldn't be a big difference in technique?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on October 18, 2022, 01:00:18 PM
Anyone ever tried indy pivot cups in their ventures? My front one is split and it’s hard to find riptides in the UK.
most pivot cups should fit in just fine regardless of brand. Ace af1 have a deeper pivot cup if I can recall correctly.
I've gotten ace classics, thunder and venture riptides and they looked identical in size lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: zozu on October 18, 2022, 08:25:29 PM
Might pick up my first set of Ventures to try, deciding what size to get for an 8.25 board.

Would either be running 5.6 with conical fulls or 5.8 with classics, just wondering what people think would be the best combination to get the most out of them.

Always used to use 149 Independents on 8.25, but I'm leaning towards 5.6 as I currently only have 8.5 trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thanksgiving on October 18, 2022, 09:28:33 PM
Might pick up my first set of Ventures to try, deciding what size to get for an 8.25 board.

Would either be running 5.6 with conical fulls or 5.8 with classics, just wondering what people think would be the best combination to get the most out of them.

Always used to use 149 Independents on 8.25, but I'm leaning towards 5.6 as I currently only have 8.5 trucks.
because ventures have the heavier pop feel prob better to go 5.6 to save on weight
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 18, 2022, 09:57:36 PM
I expected to dislike these trucks and didn't know why anybody would ride trucks that don't turn that well, but I get it now.
Held my longest front crook ever today. And finally got fs 180 fakie mannies on lock. These trucks are insane.

There's one thing I don't understand though: My nose/tailslides on ledges stick way more than with thunders. I expected the opposite. Anybody had the same experience? Even with a lot of wax everywhere, same wheels same deck.

I'm not used to the long baseplate sliding, but I feel like there shouldn't be a big difference in technique?
Any advice would be appreciated.

Welcome to the club, re the slide my best guess is the baseplate hasn't been worn in? The Thunder baseplate never affected me too much so I can't comment on that.

Might pick up my first set of Ventures to try, deciding what size to get for an 8.25 board.

Would either be running 5.6 with conical fulls or 5.8 with classics, just wondering what people think would be the best combination to get the most out of them.

Always used to use 149 Independents on 8.25, but I'm leaning towards 5.6 as I currently only have 8.5 trucks.

5.6 is the safe bet for a lighter, nimble setup. Recently went down from a 5.8 TI on an 8.5 to 5.6 TI on an 8.38 and the trucks feel a bit small. I skate ledges and flatbars exclusively so I enjoy a wider truck for more room to grind on, may swap them out later if I don't feel too lazy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Knee Pain on October 19, 2022, 01:50:49 AM
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most pivot cups should fit in just fine regardless of brand. Ace af1 have a deeper pivot cup if I can recall correctly.
I've gotten ace classics, thunder and venture riptides and they looked identical in size lol

Thanks! I’ve managed to find thunder ones, so might try those.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on October 19, 2022, 02:05:26 AM
Might pick up my first set of Ventures to try, deciding what size to get for an 8.25 board.

Would either be running 5.6 with conical fulls or 5.8 with classics, just wondering what people think would be the best combination to get the most out of them.

Always used to use 149 Independents on 8.25, but I'm leaning towards 5.6 as I currently only have 8.5 trucks.

I ride 8.25s with 5.6 V-Hollows with 3 speedrings on the inner side of each wheel to get a bit more space. It's a perfect fit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Deadringer on October 19, 2022, 07:18:23 AM
What risers fit with Ventures? I find that the ones i've tried leave an overhang?

Also how do you find using standard orange Indy bushings?

Cheers :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: brownjenkin on October 19, 2022, 07:40:46 AM
What risers fit with Ventures? I find that the ones i've tried leave an overhang?

Also how do you find using standard orange Indy bushings?

Cheers :)

Real makes wooden 1/8" risers in three variations for Venture, Thunder, and "Universal" (Indy, etc). The green ones are Venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on October 19, 2022, 11:47:01 AM
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I expected to dislike these trucks and didn't know why anybody would ride trucks that don't turn that well, but I get it now.
Held my longest front crook ever today. And finally got fs 180 fakie mannies on lock. These trucks are insane.

There's one thing I don't understand though: My nose/tailslides on ledges stick way more than with thunders. I expected the opposite. Anybody had the same experience? Even with a lot of wax everywhere, same wheels same deck.

I'm not used to the long baseplate sliding, but I feel like there shouldn't be a big difference in technique?
Any advice would be appreciated.
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Welcome to the club, re the slide my best guess is the baseplate hasn't been worn in? The Thunder baseplate never affected me too much so I can't comment on that.

I did a bad boy poser move and filed the edges of the baseplate a bit rounder. That actually helped a lot, seems like these sharp edges got me stuck when I didn't lock in perfectly. I still don't have any benefits from the baseplate in comparison to thunders though, was hoping there would be less resistance
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: zozu on October 19, 2022, 08:31:18 PM
thanks everyone gonna pick up some 5.6s next time the local has them in
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FUBAR on October 20, 2022, 02:45:15 AM
These are my next trucks. Yes I will take the graphic off.
(https://i.ibb.co/BrwWgCY/21-EA27-F8-5944-4283-9483-0-A5-B00-CF8921.png) (https://ibb.co/BrwWgCY)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on October 20, 2022, 07:12:20 AM
So in love with my 5.6s. If anyone ever catches me in another thread, talking about wanting to try/trying another brand than V, please shame me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rosemaryBB on October 25, 2022, 06:18:28 PM
Was able to find a really cheap set on Depop, will be my first time on Ventures since like, 2004/05ish I think.

Ordered riptides for em already because I’m a goober and was gonna just go ahead and get their loose truck bushing kit, but are there other bushings people swear by for getting them a lil looser/surfy?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 25, 2022, 06:58:16 PM
Was able to find a really cheap set on Depop, will be my first time on Ventures since like, 2004/05ish I think.

Ordered riptides for em already because I’m a goober and was gonna just go ahead and get their loose truck bushing kit, but are there other bushings people swear by for getting them a lil looser/surfy?

biggest tip would be flat top washer
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rosemaryBB on October 25, 2022, 07:20:33 PM
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Was able to find a really cheap set on Depop, will be my first time on Ventures since like, 2004/05ish I think.

Ordered riptides for em already because I’m a goober and was gonna just go ahead and get their loose truck bushing kit, but are there other bushings people swear by for getting them a lil looser/surfy?
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biggest tip would be flat top washer


I do that automatically with most of my trucks, found a whole bunch of flat washers behind a home depot where I skate that were exactly the right size for trucks lol. Had to be one of the weirdest/most specific ground-scores ever.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 25, 2022, 07:34:42 PM
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Was able to find a really cheap set on Depop, will be my first time on Ventures since like, 2004/05ish I think.

Ordered riptides for em already because I’m a goober and was gonna just go ahead and get their loose truck bushing kit, but are there other bushings people swear by for getting them a lil looser/surfy?
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I do that automatically with most of my trucks, found a whole bunch of flat washers behind a home depot where I skate that were exactly the right size for trucks lol. Had to be one of the weirdest/most specific ground-scores ever.

hell yeah, then you are ahead of most people seeking a surfier venture. if that doesn't do it for you you can go for the loose truck kit or supercush has 88a bushings as another option. never heard anyone using them though, but who knows.
also shaving the top of a stock to the size of the loose bushing kit and save some money/lose some time
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on October 25, 2022, 08:28:04 PM
Was able to find a really cheap set on Depop, will be my first time on Ventures since like, 2004/05ish I think.

Ordered riptides for em already because I’m a goober and was gonna just go ahead and get their loose truck bushing kit, but are there other bushings people swear by for getting them a lil looser/surfy?

Indy super soft 78A bushings will get them a lot looser. Indy bushings are the same size as Venture bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 26, 2022, 09:09:51 AM
I think anything that fits and is conical should do the trick….maybe riptide pivot cups?  To me they just make things feel a bit smoother….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 26, 2022, 12:32:33 PM
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Was able to find a really cheap set on Depop, will be my first time on Ventures since like, 2004/05ish I think.

Ordered riptides for em already because I’m a goober and was gonna just go ahead and get their loose truck bushing kit, but are there other bushings people swear by for getting them a lil looser/surfy?
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Indy super soft 78A bushings will get them a lot looser. Indy bushings are the same size as Venture bushings.

i keep seeing people say this but last time i held up after-market indy bushings next to a fairly new set of venture bushings the indy ones were a hair bigger. i know riptide lists them as the same, but can anyone confirm this for me because it's driving me nuts lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on October 26, 2022, 12:58:51 PM
So in love with my 5.6s. If anyone ever catches me in another thread, talking about wanting to try/trying another brand than V, please shame me.

Same here. I'm done. I take back everything I said about Royals.  I'm back and here to stay.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 26, 2022, 01:09:59 PM
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Was able to find a really cheap set on Depop, will be my first time on Ventures since like, 2004/05ish I think.

Ordered riptides for em already because I’m a goober and was gonna just go ahead and get their loose truck bushing kit, but are there other bushings people swear by for getting them a lil looser/surfy?
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Indy super soft 78A bushings will get them a lot looser. Indy bushings are the same size as Venture bushings.
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i keep seeing people say this but last time i held up after-market indy bushings next to a fairly new set of venture bushings the indy ones were a hair bigger. i know riptide lists them as the same, but can anyone confirm this for me because it's driving me nuts lol
indy top bushings are 1mm taller than venture stocks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 26, 2022, 02:06:31 PM
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Was able to find a really cheap set on Depop, will be my first time on Ventures since like, 2004/05ish I think.

Ordered riptides for em already because I’m a goober and was gonna just go ahead and get their loose truck bushing kit, but are there other bushings people swear by for getting them a lil looser/surfy?
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Indy super soft 78A bushings will get them a lot looser. Indy bushings are the same size as Venture bushings.
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i keep seeing people say this but last time i held up after-market indy bushings next to a fairly new set of venture bushings the indy ones were a hair bigger. i know riptide lists them as the same, but can anyone confirm this for me because it's driving me nuts lol
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indy top bushings are 1mm taller than venture stocks

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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 26, 2022, 06:03:55 PM
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Was able to find a really cheap set on Depop, will be my first time on Ventures since like, 2004/05ish I think.

Ordered riptides for em already because I’m a goober and was gonna just go ahead and get their loose truck bushing kit, but are there other bushings people swear by for getting them a lil looser/surfy?
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Indy super soft 78A bushings will get them a lot looser. Indy bushings are the same size as Venture bushings.
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i keep seeing people say this but last time i held up after-market indy bushings next to a fairly new set of venture bushings the indy ones were a hair bigger. i know riptide lists them as the same, but can anyone confirm this for me because it's driving me nuts lol


For the most part they all seemed the same size for bottom bushings, but some (Indy black) seem to have a taller bottom bushing, at least one set did, but another set didn't.  Quality control?!?

The stock (bottom) bushings are definitely the same - just pulled out a couple of sets to compare, so from that at least the geometry will still be the same, as the bottom bushing is the key factor in that.  Various top bushings will only change how tight or loose the trucks feel, or how much resistance it will give / how much it will bounce back, so you can still run quite a few different height tops and work out what feels best for each person.


Bushing height info here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112631.msg3874036#msg3874036



* Sorry I didn't see the new page / new posts above - you guys have it all under control.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 26, 2022, 07:30:48 PM
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Was able to find a really cheap set on Depop, will be my first time on Ventures since like, 2004/05ish I think.

Ordered riptides for em already because I’m a goober and was gonna just go ahead and get their loose truck bushing kit, but are there other bushings people swear by for getting them a lil looser/surfy?
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Indy super soft 78A bushings will get them a lot looser. Indy bushings are the same size as Venture bushings.
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i keep seeing people say this but last time i held up after-market indy bushings next to a fairly new set of venture bushings the indy ones were a hair bigger. i know riptide lists them as the same, but can anyone confirm this for me because it's driving me nuts lol
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For the most part they all seemed the same size for bottom bushings, but some (Indy black) seem to have a taller bottom bushing, at least one set did, but another set didn't.  Quality control?!?

The stock (bottom) bushings are definitely the same - just pulled out a couple of sets to compare, so from that at least the geometry will still be the same, as the bottom bushing is the key factor in that.  Various top bushings will only change how tight or loose the trucks feel, or how much resistance it will give / how much it will bounce back, so you can still run quite a few different height tops and work out what feels best for each person.


Bushing height info here:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=112631.msg3874036#msg3874036



* Sorry I didn't see the new page / new posts above - you guys have it all under control.

you're good! thanks for the extra confirmation & the bushing link (bookmarked that). curious now what a taller but way softer bushing might feel like but i have a feeling it'd be like the NFG bushings lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 29, 2022, 01:24:48 PM
Is it normal that I have to loosen my new ventures a lot the second day? Skated just 30 minutes the first day and right in the beginning of the second time they were so tight.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 29, 2022, 02:43:34 PM
Opposite for me my 5.6 never turned the first 3-5 sessions then felt great.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on October 29, 2022, 03:31:58 PM
Let’s see what’s happening the coming days.
But I love them. 5.8 on 8.25 Deck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on October 29, 2022, 04:24:32 PM
when I had ventures they took a while to break in but eventually got nice and loose stock by just skating them. definitely had that characteristic where they started out nice out of the box, got too tight, then eventually got nice and broken in.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on October 29, 2022, 04:32:42 PM
They also freeze up really bad. Why can't deluxe make bushings that actually work when it's cold? Indy too.
Are ace, bones and royal bushings the only ones that don't change at all when it's freezing?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on October 29, 2022, 05:13:37 PM
They also freeze up really bad. Why can't deluxe make bushings that actually work when it's cold? Indy too.
Are ace, bones and royal bushings the only ones that don't change at all when it's freezing?

Can't speak for Ace, but Bones and Royal don't easily freeze up and they are great.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on October 29, 2022, 09:59:56 PM
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Same here. I'm done. I take back everything I said about Royals.  I'm back and here to stay.

Can you expand upon what brought you back to ventures and how the differ from royals?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on October 30, 2022, 05:15:58 AM
The stock 5.6 purple bushing have broken in nicely now
(https://i.imgur.com/Nni6Ad6.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on October 31, 2022, 09:06:38 AM
Forgive me because I am sure this is answered elsewhere in this thread, but is the height the only difference between the Venture "loose" bushings and their regular bushings?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on October 31, 2022, 09:24:46 AM
Forgive me because I am sure this is answered elsewhere in this thread, but is the height the only difference between the Venture "loose" bushings and their regular bushings?

yeah, both the stock venture bushings and the loose trucks kit are 90a bushings, but the loose trucks kit has a shorter top.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on October 31, 2022, 09:27:55 AM
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Forgive me because I am sure this is answered elsewhere in this thread, but is the height the only difference between the Venture "loose" bushings and their regular bushings?
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yeah, both the stock venture bushings and the loose trucks kit are 90a bushings, but the loose trucks kit has a shorter top.

Excellent, thank you.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on October 31, 2022, 10:36:57 AM
Today I had my first session on Ventures since 2005. Felt like catching up with an old friend.

Coming from Aces, the difference was quite jarring at first, but after putting in the conversion kit bushings everything started to click. It really is a night and day difference between these and the purple stock bushings. I've gotta spend some more time on them, but so far I'm really digging them. Will keep the Ventures on a techy flippy ledgy setup and the Aces on a carvy turny surfy setup. Best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 31, 2022, 11:04:34 AM
Any thoughts on whether or not hollows/ti’s/raws grind differently?  My guess: no. 

That’s my only knock on ventures…….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 31, 2022, 11:07:21 AM
Today I had my first session on Ventures since 2005. Felt like catching up with an old friend.

Coming from Aces, the difference was quite jarring at first, but after putting in the conversion kit bushings everything started to click. It really is a night and day difference between these and the purple stock bushings. I've gotta spend some more time on them, but so far I'm really digging them. Will keep the Ventures on a techy flippy ledgy setup and the Aces on a carvy turny surfy setup. Best of both worlds.

i'm curious because i'm far from the target market for those conversion kit tops - how tight do you run them?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on October 31, 2022, 11:21:31 AM
^ About a thread and a half showing. I'm 6'2", 200lb, size 12 shoes. I used to skate ridiculously tight trucks back in the day and only realized that turning is kinda nice when I got back into the game this summer. Had I not ridden Aces before these Ventures I probably would have kept the stock bushings, but now I really like responsive trucks, at least for the riding part. I might mix and match the bushings though if I find the whole conversion kit to be too loose for a consistent trick setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on October 31, 2022, 04:14:33 PM
^ About a thread and a half showing. I'm 6'2", 200lb, size 12 shoes. I used to skate ridiculously tight trucks back in the day and only realized that turning is kinda nice when I got back into the game this summer. Had I not ridden Aces before these Ventures I probably would have kept the stock bushings, but now I really like responsive trucks, at least for the riding part. I might mix and match the bushings though if I find the whole conversion kit to be too loose for a consistent trick setup.

nice, thanks for the answer
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on November 02, 2022, 02:25:02 AM
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Forgive me because I am sure this is answered elsewhere in this thread, but is the height the only difference between the Venture "loose" bushings and their regular bushings?
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yeah, both the stock venture bushings and the loose trucks kit are 90a bushings, but the loose trucks kit has a shorter top.


wow, ok. to me the conversion kit felt waaaaayyyyy softer/looser than the standard worn in purple bushings of my used 5.6s. right now running a soft conical indy bushing on the low and the "loose kit"-top bushing. crazy loose, nice swerve, rarely any wheelbite, love my ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 05, 2022, 08:55:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oySjq513o2k&ab_channel=BenDegros
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on November 05, 2022, 10:08:41 AM
My buddy Ted Barrow (formerly feedback_ts) has a venture truck dropping soon. Polished, cast plate, hollow kingpin and axle with cast baseplates. Green bushings too.

Thats actually how the whole cast plate with hollow kp/axle thing came about. Around the start of the year when we skated one time he mentioned it to me so I told him to ask them to put a cast plate on hollow stuff. Then this past summer he told me agreed and also were gonna do it with the new kader truck too.

Seems like this combo is being well received. I've been very happy on indys the past two months but fuck this makes me want to get ventures again lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on November 05, 2022, 10:24:05 AM
My buddy Ted Barrow (formerly feedback_ts) has a venture truck dropping soon. Polished, cast plate, hollow kingpin and axle with cast baseplates. Green bushings too.

Thats actually how the whole cast plate with hollow kp/axle thing came about. Around the start of the year when we skated one time he mentioned it to me so I told him to ask them to put a cast plate on hollow stuff. Then this past summer he told me agreed and also were gonna do it with the new kader truck too.

Seems like this combo is being well received. I've been very happy on indys the past two months but fuck this makes me want to get ventures again lol.

oh my!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on November 05, 2022, 10:29:12 AM
My buddy Ted Barrow (formerly feedback_ts) has a venture truck dropping soon. Polished, cast plate, hollow kingpin and axle with cast baseplates. Green bushings too.

Thats actually how the whole cast plate with hollow kp/axle thing came about. Around the start of the year when we skated one time he mentioned it to me so I told him to ask them to put a cast plate on hollow stuff. Then this past summer he told me agreed and also were gonna do it with the new kader truck too.

Seems like this combo is being well received. I've been very happy on indys the past two months but fuck this makes me want to get ventures again lol.

No disrespect to Feedback Ted but lmao
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 05, 2022, 10:46:50 AM
Ok so I need these?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on November 05, 2022, 10:51:13 AM
I don’t get the cast vs forged baseplate thing.
What’s the real difference? Tiny bit weight only?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: thanksgiving on November 05, 2022, 11:16:53 AM
I don’t get the cast vs forged baseplate thing.
What’s the real difference? Tiny bit weight only?
forged plates are thinner and lower the ride height. also makes a tinnier sound which some people aren’t a fan of.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on November 05, 2022, 11:27:35 AM
I don’t get the cast vs forged baseplate thing.
What’s the real difference? Tiny bit weight only?

Forged parts are essentially "pressed" into their shape with intense heat and pressure. This allows for a higher tensile strength and finer grain, which results in a part of equivalent or greater strength, and with lower weight, than what is allowed by casting.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 05, 2022, 01:00:52 PM
Also they push the wheels out marginally.

The "big deal" about these trucks is that cast Ventures have a heavier pop feel and the weight reduction seems to make that a bit better. Ventures also have really nice snap, so it's a snappy pop with a lighter pop feel.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FUBAR on November 05, 2022, 01:33:15 PM
I’m stoked to see the Kaders actually hitting shops. Those are my next truck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 05, 2022, 01:54:10 PM
I was a team thunder guy and went to forged ventures and didn’t really notice a difference but liked it was a hair lower than the cast.  I’d namely consider the cast to put in an IKP, but even that’s kinda unnecessary because of the clearance is fine.  For the most part cast plates look better, that’s why I’d skate them.  It’s good they are mixing it up though because some nut jobs care…..

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on November 05, 2022, 03:26:39 PM
I’m stoked to see the Kaders actually hitting shops. Those are my next truck.

Is there a release date? I'm gonna get a set
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 05, 2022, 07:16:15 PM
I got my board back today!

The most noticable thing that I missed about my ventures is the way they pop out of a balanced 5oh. On my Aces I hit the curb almost every time.

On my ventures I can really pow that shit every single time. Even if I'm off balance an whiff the pop a little. I always get the Ollie foot to make full contact.

Pow. I'm so stoked my board is back.

Being on my super old cast trucks again is pretty sick my 58mm wheel too.

It really doesn't take much to make my day. I just need to pop out of a grind a few times and I'm happy af
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 05, 2022, 10:30:23 PM
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I’m stoked to see the Kaders actually hitting shops. Those are my next truck.
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Is there a release date? I'm gonna get a set

They are already in stores, but SWH only has them in 5.2
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 05, 2022, 10:52:03 PM
I’m not buying that the shape or geo has anything to do with how they grind….it feels like a harder alloy. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lepanto on November 06, 2022, 02:34:58 AM
I’m stoked to see the Kaders actually hitting shops. Those are my next truck.

What they got special? I am curious about that OG base plate? Different geometry?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 06, 2022, 07:12:28 AM
I’m not buying that the shape or geo has anything to do with how they grind….it feels like a harder alloy.

Seems like it but once I get a groove going it feels regular.

Ventures sounds different rolling too tho. Thunder and ventures I'm pretty sure are basically the same.

Indy is obviously a pile mousse dung bullshit.

Can I have a job Andrew Cannon? I want to subvert freedom and enslave!!! I want to be an NHS Master
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 06, 2022, 08:02:13 AM
I went a mm from the axel on my last set and it to me at least the thunders still felt like they grinded better…I’d say thunders grind normal, Aces grind well….Indy is Indy….the standard.  It depends what you’re skating like shitty angle iron, I definitely feel they don’t grind well.  Skatepark coping, can’t really say much difference.

That said, I think ventures last longer than thunders, obviously because they have more meat on them but of the material. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on November 06, 2022, 09:27:39 AM
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I’m stoked to see the Kaders actually hitting shops. Those are my next truck.
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What they got special? I am curious about that OG base plate? Different geometry?

it's an 'official' hollow axel & kingpin w/ a cast baseplate, so no more having to have a piece together a similar truck with 2 sets + a hollow kingpin without having to DIY
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 06, 2022, 12:31:47 PM
It’s acknowledgement as we reckon with our broken relationship with trucks…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on November 07, 2022, 11:00:33 AM
Got some 5.6 v-cast over the weekend.  They are everything i've wanted for years. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on November 07, 2022, 11:52:20 AM
Did we ever figure out the difference in casting marks under the hangar?

My 5.2 and 5.6 both have the number, while my newly acquired 5.8 just have two dots there.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 07, 2022, 04:13:34 PM
Did we ever figure out the difference in casting marks under the hangar?

My 5.2 and 5.6 both have the number, while my newly acquired 5.8 just have two dots there.


I think it was because 5.8 only come in one height, whereas the smaller trucks come in Hi or Lo so they put that on there too.

I could be wrong, but they haven't changed the mold for them so don't need to have that info under them like the other ones do.

I do have a set of 5.8 coming in the next day or so which would be newer ones, not old stock, so will check and see what is under them.

Should check my 6.1 set and see if there is anything under them while I am at it.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FUBAR on November 07, 2022, 05:25:27 PM
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I’m stoked to see the Kaders actually hitting shops. Those are my next truck.
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What they got special? I am curious about that OG base plate? Different geometry?
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it's an 'official' hollow axel & kingpin w/ a cast baseplate, so no more having to have a piece together a similar truck with 2 sets + a hollow kingpin without having to DIY
I want them bc I am due new trucks, want v hollow lights, want to try cast…this checks all the boxes and looks cool to me. I most def will put harder bushings in them tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 07, 2022, 05:43:12 PM
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Did we ever figure out the difference in casting marks under the hangar?

My 5.2 and 5.6 both have the number, while my newly acquired 5.8 just have two dots there.
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I think it was because 5.8 only come in one height, whereas the smaller trucks come in Hi or Lo so they put that on there too.

I could be wrong, but they haven't changed the mold for them so don't need to have that info under them like the other ones do.

I do have a set of 5.8 coming in the next day or so which would be newer ones, not old stock, so will check and see what is under them.

Should check my 6.1 set and see if there is anything under them while I am at it.
my 6.1s say 6.1H under em
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 07, 2022, 05:56:19 PM
Could it be because they are expanding the lows to more sizes…

Yeh…no.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on November 08, 2022, 09:30:47 AM
First session on those 5.8s, also first session on Ventures in probably a year? today.

I was trying to fully commit to Independent, but I have two Baker boards that I absolutely could not skate on Independents. The tail is so damn mellow. I bought these 5.8s for cheap to see if I could salvage those two boards.

It worked perfectly. Took an unskateably mellow board and made it feel great. I missed the crack of Venture pop- very satisfying. I think I'll keep em around if I ever end up with other super mellow decks in the future.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on November 08, 2022, 07:10:59 PM
Have just been browsing a shop online and came across these. I’m unsure if they fit or anything like that was more just curious if they did and if anyone has tried them.
(https://i.imgur.com/V4v7HmW.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on November 08, 2022, 07:33:09 PM
Which one of you freaks is gonna try Tracker bushings and report back to us?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on November 08, 2022, 07:50:47 PM
I'm due for some new ones soon enough so if nobody has tried them, I'll do one for the team and grab a set and put them on once mine are fully dusted and report back. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: layzieyez on November 08, 2022, 08:01:11 PM
I can report that Fury Super Sport bushings fit in the venture lows just fine. It actually feels a little soft but they were new before I shoved them in some new plain old 5.2 low just to see if they were an improvement. They are only alright for now. Nothing groundbreaking.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on November 09, 2022, 06:20:34 AM
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I’m stoked to see the Kaders actually hitting shops. Those are my next truck.
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Is there a release date? I'm gonna get a set

TGM has them from 5.2s til 5.8s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on November 09, 2022, 06:30:19 AM
I’m not buying that the shape or geo has anything to do with how they grind….it feels like a harder alloy.

It's both. Like @Uncle Flea said, it gets better when you get a groove going and have them worn in which is evidence of the shape affecting the grind.

The alloy is def different though too. harder, tinny
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 09, 2022, 06:32:17 AM
Have just been browsing a shop online and came across these. I’m unsure if they fit or anything like that was more just curious if they did and if anyone has tried them.
(https://i.imgur.com/V4v7HmW.jpg)


Those really REALLY soft ones would be interesting for people who are light as a feather or want the "almost no bushings at all" feeling.

Even the Venture low 90 duro still wouldn't be quite as soft or mushy feeling as the 75s and the white aftermarket Indy bushings - super soft are 78 duro and feel like I was sitting on not much at all, so it would definitely be a good set or so if that was what you were after.

That said, if the bushings were an extra mm or two taller, they would have to compress a whole lot more just to get the nut on, so might feel way firmer than other harder duro bushings in lower heights.

Hope that makes sense, but it is interesting to test taller or shorter bushings in some trucks just to see what the difference is, eg Ishod using two tops in each of his Thunder trucks to really get way more turn out of them, or someone else I know who used two bottoms to really firm up the trucks completely, not to mention how hard it was to get the nut on too.

They are the two extremes and both work for those individuals too, but I would be keen to see them in person, or at least get a mm height measurement from them before buying online.  That's just me though.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 09, 2022, 07:15:17 PM
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Did we ever figure out the difference in casting marks under the hangar?

My 5.2 and 5.6 both have the number, while my newly acquired 5.8 just have two dots there.
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I think it was because 5.8 only come in one height, whereas the smaller trucks come in Hi or Lo so they put that on there too.

I could be wrong, but they haven't changed the mold for them so don't need to have that info under them like the other ones do.

I do have a set of 5.8 coming in the next day or so which would be newer ones, not old stock, so will check and see what is under them.

Should check my 6.1 set and see if there is anything under them while I am at it.
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my 6.1s say 6.1H under em


Checked my other trucks and same, with 6.1H under this one set I have.

The package arrived today and these 5.8 pro editions - all standard polished with a small V wing logo for Max Geronzi - have 5.8H under them too, compared to just the two dots on the last set of 5.8 polished I got a while back.

I guess moving forward all the trucks will have that info on them, which makes sense.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 09, 2022, 09:42:33 PM
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I’m not buying that the shape or geo has anything to do with how they grind….it feels like a harder alloy.
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It's both. Like @Uncle Flea said, it gets better when you get a groove going and have them worn in which is evidence of the shape affecting the grind.

The alloy is def different though too. harder, tinny

Ben only said they were both aluminum, but there are many alloys of aluminum and his answer didn't negate that they could be using a harder one.

I've done 50-50's long enough to get grooves and the grind never changes. His explanation seems bogus.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 10, 2022, 06:22:45 AM
That’s just he answer Ben got, I don’t think he’s buying it either.  I agree, I’ve skated them down to the axel almost and to me the grind felt similar all the way through. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 10, 2022, 07:12:21 AM
I mean. It's could be just the methods?

I have old USA thunders. Two eras. My favorite set are from around 97. No better grind designed than that.

Cut bushings frickin 7.6 or worse and they're the low teams.

In 2016 when I went to orchard in the North End location to get proper gear for my return to tricks.

The kid with the long hair and glasses? (I'm sorry I forget the name) ((also I might be pulling kids from Guitar Ctr into this memory))) was like WTF! Those are the lowest trucks I've ever seen.

You'd be surprised how big a wheel fits in there. I ride 53 up.

Those are pretty close to my venture's grind.

The newer small USA stamp I haven't skated much because they're so big.

Painted black with the bigr grenade print in black.

They stick out too far on 8.5s and I ride.38 down to 8s. So I never get to use them.  I hate cross lock grinds. It's the worst of all flat bar feelings for me.

Very beautiful trucks tho.

I assume it's the last run of USA Thunders. They are sticky AF.


I'm not going to front. I'm too upset to continue editing this post. I'm not having a good time rn.

All of my gear is fucked. Im too pussy to send in the trucks. I can't afford to send in the trucks.

I have bad dreams about my fucking skateboard almost every night.

I'll be skating and poof! The board is gone.
Do I go to the shop for a new one? Nope.

Every time this happens I gotta go to the County Jail I built in my mind as a child to get it.

When I arrive at what looks like an escape from NY set x1000 there's a pile of orange jumpsuits next to subway style turnstiles.

I get dressed hop over the bars and boom I'm in the labyrinth. Jail in voluntary in my dreams.

All manner of vice is in side their. I get my board and have to escape because the system doesn't want me in the jail.

My ways are bad for business and I start riots and free people who aren't there voluntarily.

I have the skate. I'm on top of my world when I'm spotted by Deputy Dog. There's a long ass dust cloud coming in the distance. It's the posse time to fly.

I say goodbye to my hooker friends who live in the jail and fly out the window.
I'm not a good flyer. It's like in that movie Lost Boys. I gotta hang on to trees and shit. It's more like swimming.

I forgot my board tho and the posse has my ventures. Fuck.

Anyway I'm having a tough time dealing with my situation. I wish my brain was ok. I wish humans would stop being violent.

I need a boy or girl friend pretty badly.

There's something wrong with my sex rn. I can't feel it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on November 10, 2022, 07:19:06 AM
Nick Matthews makes me want to skate ventures.

Can't do it.

But he does make me want to.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on November 10, 2022, 07:55:22 AM
Nick Matthews makes me want to skate ventures.

Can't do it.

But he does make me want to.
i started riding ventures when bobby worrest got on the team lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on November 10, 2022, 11:30:07 AM
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Nick Matthews makes me want to skate ventures.

Can't do it.

But he does make me want to.
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i started riding ventures when bobby worrest got on the team lol

I had my recent go with them shortly after he got on haha. being in the dmv, this was def a motivating factor.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 10, 2022, 01:46:48 PM
I also got on them cuz of Bobby. Considering them again because out of nowhere I started having lots of landmine wheelbite skating flat. Like, I won't get wheelbite skating anything else, but pop a fakie flip on flat and land too heavy on my heel and I get pitched. If I nollie 180 and only do a nollie 160 I seem to not carve out as easily or just bite.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 10, 2022, 02:27:09 PM
Ventures you do wheelbite but you don’t get bucked….the angle which your wheel rubs against the board is at such an angle it’s just like dragging your heel….not the best…but it still gives it to you….

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Nth syd bear on November 10, 2022, 07:44:35 PM
For those of you skating lows what bushings are running??
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 10, 2022, 11:54:41 PM
For those of you skating lows what bushings are running??

Stock bushing is love
Stock bushing is life
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on November 11, 2022, 12:51:35 AM
For those of you skating lows what bushings are running??

stock blown out, running indy 90a right now.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on November 11, 2022, 01:56:18 AM
For those of you skating lows what bushings are running??

Stock are perfect
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on November 11, 2022, 05:25:03 AM
Ventures you do wheelbite but you don’t get bucked….the angle which your wheel rubs against the board is at such an angle it’s just like dragging your heel….not the best…but it still gives it to you….

I noticed that too when I was on ventures. Wheelbite almost acts like a brake haha. It hardly even brings you to an abrupt stop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on November 11, 2022, 08:45:50 AM
For those of you skating lows what bushings are running??

I just got started on Venture Lows (first time since the 90, I’d guess) and I kept the stock bushings. Turn isn’t Ace quality, but with the trucks loose I didn’t have any trouble skating my curb spot with them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on November 11, 2022, 09:24:39 AM
I have now put two sessions in on the 5.8 Kader v-cast hollows.  The venture pop is great, and the trucks feel super stable and predictable without being heavy or cumbersome.  The turn is the typical delayed venture turn, but I like the amount of lean you have before they engage (or wheel bite) and tend to ride ventures loser than other trucks, so it balances out for me.  I have bounced between numerous truck brands and make irrational gear changes all the time, so take these observations with a grain of salt. FWIW, I am running an 8.4 Crail shape with a 14.25 wheelbase.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on November 11, 2022, 11:25:05 AM
Apparently even the 78 indy super soft bushings get really hard when it's cold, feels terrible. Switched to ace low bushings with an additional 1mm flat bottom washer to make it the right height. Feels great, ace actually makes bushings that work in cold weather.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Nth syd bear on November 11, 2022, 12:46:42 PM
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For those of you skating lows what bushings are running??
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I just got started on Venture Lows (first time since the 90, I’d guess) and I kept the stock bushings. Turn isn’t Ace quality, but with the trucks loose I didn’t have any trouble skating my curb spot with them.

What Are you liking about them? If u are

I kinda failed to mention I was asking coz I dont have the original stock bushings

I'll start over

 I have some old ass venture low 5.0 from 2005ish that I want to fuck around with
Currently no bushings in them

Any suggestions for bushings?  Just curious

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on November 11, 2022, 01:53:01 PM
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For those of you skating lows what bushings are running??
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I just got started on Venture Lows (first time since the 90, I’d guess) and I kept the stock bushings. Turn isn’t Ace quality, but with the trucks loose I didn’t have any trouble skating my curb spot with them.
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What Are you liking about them? If u are

I kinda failed to mention I was asking coz I dont have the original stock bushings

I'll start over

 I have some old ass venture low 5.0 from 2005ish that I want to fuck around with
Currently no bushings in them

Any suggestions for bushings?  Just curious

supercush or from what i've been hearing the ace lows which is what i might try next time i'm feeling splurgey just to see how it feels
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 11, 2022, 02:35:51 PM
I was wrong about. Fuck I forget his name

Powell Rider Zack is awake.

No more frickin belly button king pin trucks. I thought he was riding Tracker at first.

But nah I heard him talking about his trucks and the brittle grind of a brand new venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 11, 2022, 02:36:07 PM
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For those of you skating lows what bushings are running??
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I just got started on Venture Lows (first time since the 90, I’d guess) and I kept the stock bushings. Turn isn’t Ace quality, but with the trucks loose I didn’t have any trouble skating my curb spot with them.
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What Are you liking about them? If u are

I kinda failed to mention I was asking coz I dont have the original stock bushings

I'll start over

 I have some old ass venture low 5.0 from 2005ish that I want to fuck around with
Currently no bushings in them

Any suggestions for bushings?  Just curious


I just bought the last two sets of the Venture green bushings from OCD, but looking at them and comparing to the sets of Venture lows I have here, they would fit easily enough, especially as I want to tighten that kingpin head down a bit to get a touch more clearance, so they would not be so loose feeling and would look good too.

There are probably more of them around, as they have the same size bottom bushings when comparing to these stock Venture low trucks I have here.


If you want them tighter, you can use almost any other bushing, stock or other, in them and just tighten them down a bit more.

Of all the old bits and pieces here, one low set has stock, one other low set has Doh Dohs and all these older ones still fit on the same baseplates as the normal height hangers with the same stock bushings too.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 11, 2022, 03:34:58 PM
The dlxsf lowering kit is #1 in my opinion.

I definitely wanna try them in a low truck soon
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Nth syd bear on November 11, 2022, 08:02:53 PM
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For those of you skating lows what bushings are running??
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I just got started on Venture Lows (first time since the 90, I’d guess) and I kept the stock bushings. Turn isn’t Ace quality, but with the trucks loose I didn’t have any trouble skating my curb spot with them.
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What Are you liking about them? If u are

I kinda failed to mention I was asking coz I dont have the original stock bushings

I'll start over

 I have some old ass venture low 5.0 from 2005ish that I want to fuck around with
Currently no bushings in them

Any suggestions for bushings?  Just curious
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I just bought the last two sets of the Venture green bushings from OCD, but looking at them and comparing to the sets of Venture lows I have here, they would fit easily enough, especially as I want to tighten that kingpin head down a bit to get a touch more clearance, so they would not be so loose feeling and would look good too.

There are probably more of them around, as they have the same size bottom bushings when comparing to these stock Venture low trucks I have here.


If you want them tighter, you can use almost any other bushing, stock or other, in them and just tighten them down a bit more.

Of all the old bits and pieces here, one low set has stock, one other low set has Doh Dohs and all these older ones still fit on the same baseplates as the normal height hangers with the same stock bushings too.
Thanks as always
I was keen to try those 90a green ones but from reading on here was starting to think they worked better in highs

Good to know .  Fucking Venture, I knew I'd go down this path again
Well that's what I'll try they only like $10 I'm sure I can find some

Appreciate the replies
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on November 11, 2022, 08:20:05 PM
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For those of you skating lows what bushings are running??
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I just got started on Venture Lows (first time since the 90, I’d guess) and I kept the stock bushings. Turn isn’t Ace quality, but with the trucks loose I didn’t have any trouble skating my curb spot with them.
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What Are you liking about them? If u are

I kinda failed to mention I was asking coz I dont have the original stock bushings

I'll start over

 I have some old ass venture low 5.0 from 2005ish that I want to fuck around with
Currently no bushings in them

Any suggestions for bushings?  Just curious
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I just bought the last two sets of the Venture green bushings from OCD, but looking at them and comparing to the sets of Venture lows I have here, they would fit easily enough, especially as I want to tighten that kingpin head down a bit to get a touch more clearance, so they would not be so loose feeling and would look good too.

There are probably more of them around, as they have the same size bottom bushings when comparing to these stock Venture low trucks I have here.


If you want them tighter, you can use almost any other bushing, stock or other, in them and just tighten them down a bit more.

Of all the old bits and pieces here, one low set has stock, one other low set has Doh Dohs and all these older ones still fit on the same baseplates as the normal height hangers with the same stock bushings too.
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Thanks as always
I was keen to try those 90a green ones but from reading on here was starting to think they worked better in highs

Good to know .  Fucking Venture, I knew I'd go down this path again
Well that's what I'll try they only like $10 I'm sure I can find some

Appreciate the replies

Yeah, the green “loose” bushings work great in lows. You can go super loose/flush nut, or crank a few threads for something more like the feel and clearance of the stock Hi trucks. Not really my thing, but it’s a good move if you like the feel of loose Ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on November 13, 2022, 12:41:45 PM
Almost 2023, so best skate tool for ventures?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 13, 2022, 12:57:27 PM
Almost 2023, so best skate tool for ventures?

Anything with a very narrow middle area to get around the hanger.

Eg:

Spitfire, Modus, Indy, Bronson, Ace, etc.

Some work better than others at getting round, but I have some of the really simple pull apart ones that seem to be best - similar to the Ace tool but the generic brand with a more narrow neck, but having them keep coming apart while working is a pain.



(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0594/3915/3321/products/ace-trucks-af1-skate-tool-tools-ace-354922_1024x1024.jpg)


(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/418yLJUwETL._AC_SY350_.jpg)


(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product_main_medium/Modus-Black-Skate-Tool-_323122-front-US.jpg)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: layzieyez on November 13, 2022, 01:18:47 PM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41zbpNZegmL._AC_UX466_.jpg)

I use the mounting hardware bit on a mini socket wrench. Super fast and easy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 13, 2022, 01:39:52 PM
Nick Matthews makes me want to skate ventures.

Can't do it.

But he does make me want to.

I wonder what his setups is…8? 5.2 HI’s? He definitely makes me want to skate his stuff.

Glad to see people trying the lo’s, love mine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 13, 2022, 02:29:03 PM
Almost 2023, so best skate tool for ventures?

Silver tool is the correct answer…..

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 13, 2022, 03:27:33 PM
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Almost 2023, so best skate tool for ventures?
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Silver tool is the correct answer…..


I think I would have said that too, but in seeing so many of them broken, I tend to stay clear of them.

Like anything you look after, they should last well, but a lot of people just don't seem to care, so they end up in pieces.

How many ratchet bits did you blow out @rocklobster or anyone else?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 13, 2022, 03:46:19 PM
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Nick Matthews makes me want to skate ventures.

Can't do it.

But he does make me want to.
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I wonder what his setups is…8? 5.2 HI’s? He definitely makes me want to skate his stuff.

Glad to see people trying the lo’s, love mine.

5.6 hi on DLX 8.06/8.25 with 14.38 wb. Actually responded to me. I think Spitfire 51-53s?

Was on Quasi before and it is easy to see the graphics he rode.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 13, 2022, 03:48:08 PM
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Almost 2023, so best skate tool for ventures?
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Silver tool is the correct answer…..

Incorrect- Ace AF1 tool. Put electrical tape around the knurling if you don't want it to touch the hanger but it clears it well.

Also the Ace tool is really well machined. I have some fairly expensive joker and box wrenches and you tend to look for really sharp angles with very good tolerances, which the Ace has. This way it won't strip nut heads. I have 3 of them- 1 for each car and for my backpack.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 13, 2022, 05:48:45 PM
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Almost 2023, so best skate tool for ventures?
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Silver tool is the correct answer…..
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I think I would have said that too, but in seeing so many of them broken, I tend to stay clear of them.

Like anything you look after, they should last well, but a lot of people just don't seem to care, so they end up in pieces.

How many ratchet bits did you blow out @rocklobster or anyone else?

I've destroyed 3 ratchet tools, the ratchet function on 2 of them fell apart, and the plastic holding the axle nut socket cracked on 1. Plastic tools flex especially when it comes to rethreading axles or removing stubborn axle nuts.

Best tool remains the Spitfire T-Tool:
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0277/8575/products/rsr.php_1024x1024.jpg?v=1571266656)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 13, 2022, 06:46:23 PM
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Nick Matthews makes me want to skate ventures.

Can't do it.

But he does make me want to.
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I wonder what his setups is…8? 5.2 HI’s? He definitely makes me want to skate his stuff.

Glad to see people trying the lo’s, love mine.
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5.6 hi on DLX 8.06/8.25 with 14.38 wb. Actually responded to me. I think Spitfire 51-53s?

Was on Quasi before and it is easy to see the graphics he rode.

Thanks! That’s so sick…I have never gotten tired of learning what rippers use for equipment.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on November 13, 2022, 08:39:12 PM
I’m pretty sure Nick matthews skates 5.2 lows not sure if they are hollow or not. You can tell in footy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 13, 2022, 08:45:30 PM
I mean I asked him and his Uprise truck came in that size. So maybe he doesn't have a clue
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on November 14, 2022, 04:37:30 AM
Pretty cool and crazy at the same time that Ducky is Ventures new team manager or hold a similar title doing something for Venture now other than riding for them. He was at Tampa Am present as their TM. Random news...just thought id share
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 14, 2022, 05:28:48 AM
I’m pretty sure Nick matthews skates 5.2 lows not sure if they are hollow or not. You can tell in footy

Certainly looked like 5.2 lo’s to me
Hard to tell tho
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 14, 2022, 06:53:23 AM
I watched a few parts and slow mo'd yesterday and at least in recent footage you can clearly tell they are highs from the height of the wings near the yoke of the truck. The VX footage all has a pretty big fisheye to it which makes it sorta difficult to spot
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 14, 2022, 07:06:26 AM
just ordered thunder replacement bushings for my 6.1 hollows
the red 97a were calling me after a great time with supercush 97s

never really gave the venture/conical bottom combo a fair chance
tried bones softs and indy reds just to find i like hard bushings
these should be great. anyone else try something similar?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 14, 2022, 07:09:41 AM
I watched a few parts and slow mo'd yesterday and at least in recent footage you can clearly tell they are highs from the height of the wings near the yoke of the truck. The VX footage all has a pretty big fisheye to it which makes it sorta difficult to spot

Nice

I’ve been overly into what the pros ride, forever, and trying to figure it out from video/photo can be inaccurate.
I’ll do my best to not purchase 5.6s with this info.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on November 14, 2022, 06:26:05 PM
I watched a few parts and slow mo'd yesterday and at least in recent footage you can clearly tell they are highs from the height of the wings near the yoke of the truck. The VX footage all has a pretty big fisheye to it which makes it sorta difficult to spot


Go back and watch his uprise part there are maybe 1 or two clips that maybe high… the rest are lows
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 14, 2022, 06:50:17 PM
Hey if you're dead set on believing that go for it. I don't think I will convince you that what he told me is accurate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on November 15, 2022, 06:04:00 AM
Hey if you're dead set on believing that go for it. I don't think I will convince you that what he told me is accurate.
Lol people are seriously trying to tell you what he rides even tho the man told you himself. Either they can't read or they are just delusional lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 15, 2022, 06:11:25 AM
And it's not like he doesn't know how wide 5.6 is or something that is conceivable, low vs high is pretty huge especially for trucks. If you just look at his recent footage you'll see the high Uprise trucks or high standards so even if he was on lows it clearly meant fuck all.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on November 15, 2022, 05:18:04 PM
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Hey if you're dead set on believing that go for it. I don't think I will convince you that what he told me is accurate.
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Lol people are seriously trying to tell you what he
rides even tho the man told you himself. Either they can't read or they are just delusional lol

(https://i.ibb.co/vvk7pLq/142-CC352-78-F1-4-E97-9186-B097937-C8642.png) (https://ibb.co/vvk7pLq)

So can I not read or am I delusional?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 15, 2022, 05:26:41 PM
Interesting, that was July 26th and I asked on 11/12.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 15, 2022, 06:13:50 PM
I wasn't the one to say either things. You said "you think" but didn't say "I asked me he said". Maybe saying that and saying the date would have made it less confusing. The way I read the series of posts is that I had asked and you just had a guess,m.

Regardless it seems to not really have hurt him to go from low to high.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on November 15, 2022, 11:24:46 PM
Hey if you're dead set on believing that go for it. I don't think I will convince you that what he told me is accurate.

Yeah but where is your proof…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on November 15, 2022, 11:33:20 PM
I wasn't the one to say either things. You said "you think" but didn't say "I asked me he said". Maybe saying that and saying the date would have made it less confusing. The way I read the series of posts is that I had asked and you just had a guess,m.

Regardless it seems to not really have hurt him to go from low to high.


Yeah but you were dead set on trying to shut me down on what I was saying. Regardless you have no proof of what you’re saying so I guess it doesn’t matter.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lepanto on November 16, 2022, 01:41:11 AM
Noticed about the color of the bushing usually make it feels different

somebody knows if the venture purple ones feels like the clear blue?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on November 16, 2022, 01:49:00 AM
I'm honestly wondering which spot DM screenshots should hold in the hierarchy of evidence. I'd say just below metaanalyses.

Anyway, Ventures. I was visiting family the other day and found my ooooold set of 5.0 lows. Those must be from '03/'04. I didn't take them with me, so I can't just fuck around and find out, but I was wondering if I could maybe combine these baseplates with my new 5.8 V-Hollows. Perhaps someone who runs cast baseplates with their Hollows can elaborate which baseplates are a good fit?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on November 16, 2022, 03:15:44 AM
Ok you can read. But you're still delusional.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nitro89 on November 16, 2022, 03:23:09 AM
I'm honestly wondering which spot DM screenshots should hold in the hierarchy of evidence. I'd say just below metaanalyses.

Anyway, Ventures. I was visiting family the other day and found my ooooold set of 5.0 lows. Those must be from '03/'04. I didn't take them with me, so I can't just fuck around and find out, but I was wondering if I could maybe combine these baseplates with my new 5.8 V-Hollows. Perhaps someone who runs cast baseplates with their Hollows can elaborate which baseplates are a good fit?

im running 5.2 low cast plates on my 5.6 hollow hanger and its fine so you should be all good swapping them over, only difference is your old trucks will be from the old foundry they used so i am not 100% sure on the compatibility with the new foundry trucks.

don't forget that ventures weren't the strongest around that time either, I went through a lot of kingpins and baseplates in the early to mid 2000's on ventures.

only one way to find out tho, good luck with the adventure.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on November 16, 2022, 05:35:30 AM
Ok you can read. But you're still delusional.

I guess when you’ve been shown proof and have nothing else valid or provable to say that’s all you can come up with.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on November 16, 2022, 05:47:08 AM
He probably rides krepers with venture stickers and you guys are blowing up his spot right now. not cool.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 16, 2022, 08:11:56 AM
Noticed about the color of the bushing usually make it feels different

somebody knows if the venture purple ones feels like the clear blue?

I feel like the darker the bushings color the better. (So long as it's semi clear.)

In the heat I believe the darker bushings i's more likely to be softer?
Could be tripping

Purple green or red tho.

Even if the bushings were worse I'd still go for green first of all.

I like everything on my board to be green or purple.

Orange wheels if possible tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 16, 2022, 08:13:07 AM
He probably rides krepers with venture stickers and you guys are blowing up his spot right now. not cool.

Gotta be it. I would never question the Ipathcats.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on November 16, 2022, 09:02:43 AM
im running 5.2 low cast plates on my 5.6 hollow hanger and its fine so you should be all good swapping them over, only difference is your old trucks will be from the old foundry they used so i am not 100% sure on the compatibility with the new foundry trucks.

don't forget that ventures weren't the strongest around that time either, I went through a lot of kingpins and baseplates in the early to mid 2000's on ventures.

only one way to find out tho, good luck with the adventure.

Thanks! That's all I need to give it a go. I'll report back once I got the chance to retrieve them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 16, 2022, 02:32:26 PM
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Nick Matthews makes me want to skate ventures.

Can't do it.

But he does make me want to.
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I wonder what his setups is…8? 5.2 HI’s? He definitely makes me want to skate his stuff.

Glad to see people trying the lo’s, love mine.
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5.6 hi on DLX 8.06/8.25 with 14.38 wb. Actually responded to me. I think Spitfire 51-53s?

Was on Quasi before and it is easy to see the graphics he rode.

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Interesting, that was July 26th and I asked on 11/12.
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I asked a while back because I was curious. I have proof of what I am saying. Where is anybody else’s that is saying I can’t read or I’m delusional?


So just a couple of things - I don't mean to draw this out any further, but I was thinking and not sure if any of you guys had made this connection at all.


Yes the man was on 5.2 sized trucks a while back, as per the clearly shown message, date stamped and everything.

At some point he may have stepped up to wider trucks and could still be on wider trucks now, but Venture only make the low trucks up to 5.2 size, so there are no 5.6 low trucks, in which case he would have to ride the normal height in this width.

In a normal over the counter conversation, this might be pretty chilled, but online, it is often not quite the case, so I think at least everyone need not stir anything up any further.


Re Venture don't make wider low trucks, @rocklobster and others have wondered this before on here.

I have also had this conversation with someone in store once who refused to believe that they didn't make wider low trucks and wanted us to order some in for him, but that is just not the case, but it doesn't stop anyone from asking DLX about wanting to have a wider low version of their trucks.

After all, they are good with feedback and will often take things on board in that regard.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on November 22, 2022, 02:16:59 PM
Is there really a difference between low and high ventures ?

I was skating lows for a long time ago, in my early years of skating, and switched to high, not really noticing the difference at the time.

But now I skate a lot of flatground, almost only that, and I've been skating high for 10 years (15 years of skateboarding),

Would lows for the flat really change anything ?  ;D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 22, 2022, 03:42:27 PM
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You might not notice until you have two sets side by side, the low being a few mm lower with minimal kingpin clearance, the normal or high being significantly taller with generous kingpin clearance.

There were definitely a lot of low 5.0 and some low 5.2 getting around, that I have quite a few old sets of, as well as a number of the normal height 5.0, 5.25 and now 5.6 and 5.8, as well as one set of 6.1 Venture trucks.

As to the ride difference, yes the low has a way quicker pop compared to the high and quite a few other differences, with a few sets on 7.75 and 8" boards, mainly just set up for kids to ride.

If you have low trucks and want to feel how the high skate without getting any, just put a 1/8" riser on.  It won't be quite the same I know, but that is about the height difference looking at a couple of sets here.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 22, 2022, 05:45:17 PM
Is there really a difference between low and high ventures ?

I was skating lows for a long time ago, in my early years of skating, and switched to high, not really noticing the difference at the time.

But now I skate a lot of flatground, almost only that, and I've been skating high for 10 years (15 years of skateboarding),

Would lows for the flat really change anything ?  ;D

On paper yes:
From the horse's mouth:
Venture heights

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82mm

I always thought I preferred the LOs since my flatgound game is ass and LOs pinch the best of any truck. But I've been skating the HI Standard (cast baseplate) for 2-3 boards and I've just gotten used to it. The cast baseplate doesn't shift the wheelbase out as dramatically as forged baseplate (3.25" vs 3.5"), making it easier to pair with common deck dimensions.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 23, 2022, 02:14:24 AM
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Is there really a difference between low and high ventures ?

I was skating lows for a long time ago, in my early years of skating, and switched to high, not really noticing the difference at the time.

But now I skate a lot of flatground, almost only that, and I've been skating high for 10 years (15 years of skateboarding),

Would lows for the flat really change anything ?  ;D
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On paper yes:
From the horse's mouth:
Venture heights

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82mm
can we get this pinned
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on November 23, 2022, 05:21:39 AM
But.. I was thinking, does taking hollows really change the way you skate ? Is it somehow .. easier because lighter ?

I've always skated the high standard ventures, I wonder if it's worth paying more..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iangreen66 on November 23, 2022, 06:06:28 AM
But.. I was thinking, does taking hollows really change the way you skate ? Is it somehow .. easier because lighter ?

I've always skated the high standard ventures, I wonder if it's worth paying more..
If it means anything to you, I recently went from Indy 159's to the Kader 5.8's and I feel like I have been skating my best that I've ever skated. I feel more confident somehow on the Ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on November 23, 2022, 07:19:47 AM
But.. I was thinking, does taking hollows really change the way you skate ? Is it somehow .. easier because lighter ?

I've always skated the high standard ventures, I wonder if it's worth paying more..

pay up and find out
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 23, 2022, 07:22:21 AM
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Is there really a difference between low and high ventures ?

I was skating lows for a long time ago, in my early years of skating, and switched to high, not really noticing the difference at the time.

But now I skate a lot of flatground, almost only that, and I've been skating high for 10 years (15 years of skateboarding),

Would lows for the flat really change anything ?  ;D
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On paper yes:
From the horse's mouth:
Venture heights

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82mm
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can we get this pinned

Fuck it, I'll make it my sig
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 23, 2022, 07:35:42 AM
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Is there really a difference between low and high ventures ?

I was skating lows for a long time ago, in my early years of skating, and switched to high, not really noticing the difference at the time.

But now I skate a lot of flatground, almost only that, and I've been skating high for 10 years (15 years of skateboarding),

Would lows for the flat really change anything ?  ;D
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On paper yes:
From the horse's mouth:
Venture heights

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82mm
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can we get this pinned
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Fuck it, I'll make it my sig

Venture for life
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 23, 2022, 07:36:33 AM
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But.. I was thinking, does taking hollows really change the way you skate ? Is it somehow .. easier because lighter ?

I've always skated the high standard ventures, I wonder if it's worth paying more..
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pay up and find out

Great answer.
Too much thinking/thread making, not enough action.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on November 23, 2022, 07:52:18 AM
Anyone able to find the Kaders in 5.8 yet?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nitro89 on November 23, 2022, 07:53:36 AM
seem them in one shop here in the uk.

wanting 90bucks for them tho  :-\

thats indy ti prices.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 23, 2022, 08:52:39 AM
I skated v-lites and didn’t notice the difference between them and hollows.  Weight just comes down to if you have a shitty day and you feel your board is heavy….you’ll be pissed….I think everyone had a tolerance and it’s all different.  A thunder hollow versus Indy raw….big difference…venture is pretty in the middle so either way you’re good. 

One thing is I don’t mind cast plates even though I know it’s wrong….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: swellbowed on November 23, 2022, 09:09:41 AM
Anyone able to find the Kaders in 5.8 yet?
Plus MI has 'em https://pluskateboarding.com/products/venture-hi-kader-v-cast-hollow-trucks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on November 23, 2022, 09:45:04 AM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lepanto on November 23, 2022, 09:52:37 AM
I skate only thunders and hace zero complains but id like to try venture for my 8,25 set up so i got in mind a set of hollows 5,6 or maybe a kaders but not sure that texture if i wont end getting tired
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on November 23, 2022, 10:05:14 AM
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But.. I was thinking, does taking hollows really change the way you skate ? Is it somehow .. easier because lighter ?

I've always skated the high standard ventures, I wonder if it's worth paying more..
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If it means anything to you, I recently went from Indy 159's to the Kader 5.8's and I feel like I have been skating my best that I've ever skated. I feel more confident somehow on the Ventures.

Same, I tried everything, independent, great comfort but very heavy and high, thunder, very responsive, perfect for flats, but sometimes too light and uncontrollable (I hurt myself  my ankle with this .. a 360 flip which has turned too much)

The indy hollows disappointed me, a minimal weight reduction for the price, and almost the same weight as the standard ventures.

I find that only on Ventures I feel really good and skate the best, maybe because I started with this, and I skated them for a very long time before trying other brands !

Very curious about Venture hollows ..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on November 23, 2022, 10:05:43 AM

One thing is I don’t mind cast plates even though I know it’s wrong….

Interesting, if anything it seems people often dislike forged plates and prefer cast.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 23, 2022, 11:00:37 AM
I too fell in the same category…..i found what I often do is take my irrational thoughts or emotions and grab any piece of information or subjectivity to justify them….

They definitely look better…..I came from Team Thunders where I still stand by is the best thunder….when I got on ventures I accepted forged as you couldn’t get the Kaders and I liked the lower height.  Surprise!  Made no difference, they are great trucks…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on November 23, 2022, 01:59:28 PM
I too fell in the same category…..i found what I often do is take my irrational thoughts or emotions and grab any piece of information or subjectivity to justify them….

They definitely look better…..I came from Team Thunders where I still stand by is the best thunder….when I got on ventures I accepted forged as you couldn’t get the Kaders and I liked the lower height.  Surprise!  Made no difference, they are great trucks…

Thanks for the response.  Your explanation of "taking irrational thoughts or emotions and grabbing any piece of information or subjectivity to justify them" perfectly describes my own gear madness.  I agree with you that Team Thunders are the best Thunder.  I have found hollow and forged variations of Thunder to be too light and/or low.  I have also skated Venture forged and they are quite good. However, thanks to the wheelbase thread I can't help but think the slightly reduced wheelbase of Venture cast are preferable - perhaps another example of propping up a sliver of information to justify my gear selection.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 23, 2022, 04:22:28 PM
I originally wanted the cast baseplate to put in an IKP but never got around to it.  I ended up dropping a mm in wheelsize too.  The wheelbase is a good point, same deal though is it’s something that just annoys me.  I look at my board and wonder if i need knee pads to skate it.   I don’t necessarily see it as madness, it’s just your aiming to set up a board based on your vision.  Nothing wrong with it.  I think it’s just a bummer if the set up is rather affecting your skating or even worse….you think it’s affecting your skating. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 23, 2022, 08:50:50 PM
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I too fell in the same category…..i found what I often do is take my irrational thoughts or emotions and grab any piece of information or subjectivity to justify them….

They definitely look better…..I came from Team Thunders where I still stand by is the best thunder….when I got on ventures I accepted forged as you couldn’t get the Kaders and I liked the lower height.  Surprise!  Made no difference, they are great trucks…
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Thanks for the response.  Your explanation of "taking irrational thoughts or emotions and grabbing any piece of information or subjectivity to justify them" perfectly describes my own gear madness.  I agree with you that Team Thunders are the best Thunder.  I have found hollow and forged variations of Thunder to be too light and/or low.  I have also skated Venture forged and they are quite good. However, thanks to the wheelbase thread I can't help but think the slightly reduced wheelbase of Venture cast are preferable - perhaps another example of propping up a sliver of information to justify my gear selection.

My rule of thumb
WB less than 14.25 - Forged baseplates
WB more than 14.25 - Cast baseplates

Helps make Venture more all-rounder rather.

LO with forged baseplates have given me the best pinch on grinds, I've not had other sub-50mm trucks give that same pinch.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on November 24, 2022, 08:18:53 PM
Anybody here been able to try the Kaders yet, or do we only have Ben's opinion to go by so far?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 25, 2022, 01:13:22 AM
Anybody here been able to try the Kaders yet, or do we only have Ben's opinion to go by so far?

Height - see my sig
Weight - should be the weight of a v-hollow, around the same as a Thunder Light
Wheelbase - +3.25", since cast baseplate

If anyone is looking to try the 5.6 V-Hollow Valsurf has them at $36.00 a pair ($48 before the 25% discount). 6.1 Standard at $27 a pair ($36 before the 25%).

https://valsurf.com/search.php?search_query=venture%205.6&section=product
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Steely Daniel on November 25, 2022, 01:31:41 AM
So as an indy guy who skates big wheels and is curious to try Ventures, forged Hi's with 1/8 inch risers would get me 99.9% of the way there to a 55 mm height truck?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on November 25, 2022, 01:36:00 AM
So as an indy guy who skates big wheels and is curious to try Ventures, forged Hi's with 1/8 inch risers would get me 99.9% of the way there to a 55 mm height truck?

Did you just ask slap if 52+3=55?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Steely Daniel on November 25, 2022, 01:54:11 AM
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So as an indy guy who skates big wheels and is curious to try Ventures, forged Hi's with 1/8 inch risers would get me 99.9% of the way there to a 55 mm height truck?
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Did you just ask slap if 52+3=55?

Well, I'm not goodatmeth or math but I'm just thinking out loud. I had to turn on sigs to even see someone's personal measurements, which are hard to find otherwise so just trying to confirm. Please don't annihilate my butthole as I've had some issues with trucks and sizing lately :( I thought I was riding 149s but they're actually 159's, and I thought my pair of 139's were matching but I have a 139 and 149...

Late edit but god damn, old skaters are some of the most ornery fucks in the universe. I'm just looking for some confirmation from someone who maybe has real-life experience going from one to the other. Maybe there was some nerd wheelbase variation from one to the other baseplate? I don't fucking know. That's why I'm asking.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on November 25, 2022, 03:32:33 AM
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So as an indy guy who skates big wheels and is curious to try Ventures, forged Hi's with 1/8 inch risers would get me 99.9% of the way there to a 55 mm height truck?
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Did you just ask slap if 52+3=55?
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Well, I'm not goodatmeth or math but I'm just thinking out loud. I had to turn on sigs to even see someone's personal measurements, which are hard to find otherwise so just trying to confirm. Please don't annihilate my butthole as I've had some issues with trucks and sizing lately :( I thought I was riding 149s but they're actually 159's, and I thought my pair of 139's were matching but I have a 139 and 149...

Late edit but god damn, old skaters are some of the most ornery fucks in the universe. I'm just looking for some confirmation from someone who maybe has real-life experience going from one to the other. Maybe there was some nerd wheelbase variation from one to the other baseplate? I don't fucking know. That's why I'm asking.

Sorry, so yeah forged venture high + 1/8 riser will be very close to if not exactly 55mm high.
But it wont feel similar to an indy because of that. My anti madness advice is stick to your indys and don't fuck up your muscle memory.
Indy wheelbase is short, forged venture wheelbase is the longest you can get from all of the trucks on the market.
What makes you want to switch?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Steely Daniel on November 25, 2022, 04:21:41 AM
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So as an indy guy who skates big wheels and is curious to try Ventures, forged Hi's with 1/8 inch risers would get me 99.9% of the way there to a 55 mm height truck?
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Did you just ask slap if 52+3=55?
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Well, I'm not goodatmeth or math but I'm just thinking out loud. I had to turn on sigs to even see someone's personal measurements, which are hard to find otherwise so just trying to confirm. Please don't annihilate my butthole as I've had some issues with trucks and sizing lately :( I thought I was riding 149s but they're actually 159's, and I thought my pair of 139's were matching but I have a 139 and 149...

Late edit but god damn, old skaters are some of the most ornery fucks in the universe. I'm just looking for some confirmation from someone who maybe has real-life experience going from one to the other. Maybe there was some nerd wheelbase variation from one to the other baseplate? I don't fucking know. That's why I'm asking.
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Sorry, so yeah forged venture high + 1/8 riser will be very close to if not exactly 55mm high.
But it wont feel similar to an indy because of that. My anti madness advice is stick to your indys and don't fuck up your muscle memory.
Indy wheelbase is short, forged venture wheelbase is the longest you can get from all of the trucks on the market.
What makes you want to switch?

I've never really tried anything else honestly and since I'm such a noseslide guy I figured Thunders might not be for me. Being a moderately tight truck guy, I also figured Ace is out of the question. Growing up I skated trash like Orions, Destructos, Furys etc. but once I got my first pair of Indys I stubbornly stuck with them forever, even having lived through the stage 9 debacle badly bending axles on at least a couple of pairs in my prime years. I also enjoy bombing hills and have heard Ventures are oddly good for that since they don't really turn that well and lessen the chance of vicious speed wobbles. Basically, I was always conflicted between being a tranny or ledge guy who is pretty bad at flip tricks and can't skate switch or nollie. Now that I'm a grown man that petty identity shit means nothing and I just want to know what will work best for me.

I'm kind of curious what Jeff Carlyle's setup is and if he really rides 58 or 60mm wheels like his pro model. I ride 56 mm but I wouldn't mind trying those 58mm 97a spitfires.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 25, 2022, 04:58:09 AM
I do a shitload of noseslides on Thunder and have no issues. Sometimes with front tails I do but I've never been as good at those as back tails.

Venture forged plus a riser would suck IMO. You're pushing the wheelbase way out compared to an Indy AND it's the same height so your pop angle would be steep as fuck. Just get cast Ventures if you wanna try Ventures and don't try to micromanage the dimensions.

Unless you are bombing hills and need wheels to last why ride such a big clunky wheel? Just cuz he does it for that reason doesn't mean there is any sorta advantage for you.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on November 25, 2022, 06:08:25 AM
As it happens I've been riding 5.8 Hollows with 1/8 risers for the past 4 weeks or so, so I can provide some first-hand experience.

First of all, it goes without saying that the trucks alone don't make or break your setup. Ventures paired with a short-wheelbase deck will work differently than on a long-wheelbase deck, etc. I'm trying to only make general statements to keep things as simple as possible, though.

Ventures are definitely the most non-responsive trucks out of the main brands. What I mean by that is that it it takes more weight shifting to initiate a turn. If that's a positive or a negative comes down solely to personal preference. I love them for bombing hills because for me, the risk of wiping out is reduced significantly. I'm on the larger side and don't have perfect balance at all times, so I'm prone to unintentionally shifting my weight. Ventures have more leeway before they actually turn. At high speeds, that's a lifesaver for me. For other people, it might be the opposite because they rely on the ability to turn very quickly.

Concerning the pop angle, that also comes down to what you like. I love high trucks and risers because I like working a little harder for my pop and therefore prefer a steeper angle. I can ollie higher that way and get more consistent flicks. On the other hand, a more shallow angle makes your tail hit the ground faster, so you don't need to kick down as hard to pop. Many people prefer that because it can feel more responsive and requires less force.

Bigger wheels go well with this setup because they provide even more stability and a smoother ride. That may be negligible for people who don't skate crust often, but for me it's vital.

All in all, I can definitely recommend forged Ventures with risers and big wheels if you wanna go fast and have great stability on less-than-perfect ground. It's definitely not a good combination for tech wizardry though.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on November 25, 2022, 08:42:47 AM
As it happens I've been riding 5.8 Hollows with 1/8 risers for the past 4 weeks or so, so I can provide some first-hand experience.

First of all, it goes without saying that the trucks alone don't make or break your setup. Ventures paired with a short-wheelbase deck will work differently than on a long-wheelbase deck, etc. I'm trying to only make general statements to keep things as simple as possible, though.

Ventures are definitely the most non-responsive trucks out of the main brands. What I mean by that is that it it takes more weight shifting to initiate a turn. If that's a positive or a negative comes down solely to personal preference. I love them for bombing hills because for me, the risk of wiping out is reduced significantly. I'm on the larger side and don't have perfect balance at all times, so I'm prone to unintentionally shifting my weight. Ventures have more leeway before they actually turn. At high speeds, that's a lifesaver for me. For other people, it might be the opposite because they rely on the ability to turn very quickly.

Concerning the pop angle, that also comes down to what you like. I love high trucks and risers because I like working a little harder for my pop and therefore prefer a steeper angle. I can ollie higher that way and get more consistent flicks. On the other hand, a more shallow angle makes your tail hit the ground faster, so you don't need to kick down as hard to pop. Many people prefer that because it can feel more responsive and requires less force.

Bigger wheels go well with this setup because they provide even more stability and a smoother ride. That may be negligible for people who don't skate crust often, but for me it's vital.

All in all, I can definitely recommend forged Ventures with risers and big wheels if you wanna go fast and have great stability on less-than-perfect ground. It's definitely not a good combination for tech wizardry though.

this is a pretty hilarious statement when Ventures are pretty much known for being tech wizard trucks...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on November 25, 2022, 09:47:59 AM
I know, the irony wasn't lost on me. That's why I specifically talked about forged Venture highs with risers and big wheels. The wizardry trucks are the 5.0/5.2 lows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 25, 2022, 01:11:50 PM
That’s the interesting thing about venture is there is an application on both sides ie. hill bombing or nollie crooks….

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 25, 2022, 04:29:55 PM
Those are his friend's boards dude.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on November 26, 2022, 07:09:40 AM
If someone can spot some v hollows on sale.  The Val surf sale as only for a day it seems.

I’ve always skated venture and have contemplated trying some thunders.  Can someone quickly surmise their experience with making this move. 

Rational.  Thunders are light and I heard they grind good.

I recently switch back to 8.18 from 8.25.  54mm wheels. Ledge / mannies / flat bars / flips tricks etc. no stairs for this fella
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 26, 2022, 07:17:13 AM
Thunders arguably turn a bit better but the wheelbite is a bit much for me.  I also grinded through them pretty fast.  I’d consider trying thunder again but I’d have a set of risers standing by.  You’re right about the other observations though, they grind way better and are lighter. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 26, 2022, 08:07:57 AM
If someone can spot some v hollows on sale.  The Val surf sale as only for a day it seems.

I’ve always skated venture and have contemplated trying some thunders.  Can someone quickly surmise their experience with making this move. 

Rational.  Thunders are light and I heard they grind good.

I recently switch back to 8.18 from 8.25.  54mm wheels. Ledge / mannies / flat bars / flips tricks etc. no stairs for this fella

Grind - Thunders grind faster and smoother, Venture grinds harder and kinda bites back at the ledge, you really feel the grind like you're working against the surface rather than just gliding across, I prefer the harder grind it just feels better

Turn - Thunder is more responsive but I get a lot of wheelbite, Ventures turn slower (more lean before the turn) but I don't get as bad wheelbite

Pop feel - Thunders pop light, Ventures pop heavy, so if you stomp down hard on your trick you're going to feel less feedback on Thunders and it will wimpy by comparison

Slide - Thunder baseplate does not protrude as much as Venture, you're going to catch more wheel on the slide but not a deal breaking amount, wax a little more and you're set

Personal opinion - Ace and Venture are the polar opposites in trucks, with Thunder and Indy somewhere in the middle. The ride feel of Venture (and Ace) is unique and you'll only appreciate or hate it if you bite the bullet and ride them.

https://orchardshop.com/collections/cyber-sale-trucks/venture

Some choices for the 5.6 if you don't mind some colored baseplates.

If you're sticking to an 8" truck then go with the 5.2 Low. Yeah you're going to wheelbite a lot more, but the pinch of grinds is otherworldly.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on November 26, 2022, 08:15:46 AM
First. Thanks for the detail.   I’ve been riding ventures pretty much my whole life.  Lately the 5.6.  On a 8.18 board. 

When I was younger I rode the lows on a .8.0 board.

The 5.2 on a 8.18 wit flush or do you get the hoverboard vibe?

Lastly with the 54mm with the 5.2 in the Low be significant more prone to wheel bite?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 26, 2022, 08:32:46 AM
First. Thanks for the detail.   I’ve been riding ventures pretty much my whole life.  Lately the 5.6.  On a 8.18 board. 

When I was younger I rode the lows on a .8.0 board.

The 5.2 on a 8.18 wit flush or do you get the hoverboard vibe?

Lastly with the 54mm with the 5.2 in the Low be significant more prone to wheel bite?

5.2 with 8.18 will have minimal hoverboarding, just get a couple more washers on the inside of you're axle and you're good.

Biggest I would do with 5.2 L is 52mm.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on November 26, 2022, 08:55:52 AM
as someone who spent a good amount of time on the 54mm wheels/Lo Venture combo, stick to the above advice with 52mm. you could go 53 or 54 if you skate tight
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 26, 2022, 09:33:42 AM
I’ve never skated the lo’s but at that point, I’d just skate thunders….

There are some people in this thread though that might have some input on them..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 26, 2022, 09:53:28 AM
5.2 lo’s up to 8.18, I don’t personally prefer them on 8.25, but that’s just me. I definitely put extra washers on the inside of the wheel when I ride boards that are wider than the trucks.
Dill and Ave claimed 54s on lo’s, I think. Early 2000s. Got to skate em pretty tight. Imo with venture lo’s my max is 52, and that’s pushing it.

To the person wondering about thunders, I really like 147s, but they are fairly low themselves, and I don’t like mine with 54s. Thunder 148s and 54s go tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on November 26, 2022, 12:18:40 PM
8 inch trucks on the quasi 8.25 they use for the proto with the taper in the back fits nice. That shape seems to be able to accommodate 8-8.5 trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on November 26, 2022, 01:23:46 PM
Gear Madness completely took over.

ordered Thunders Titaniums in 148 and some 54mm dragons.  I ride my ventures pretty loose.  Hope the combo works.

Worse case I'll have my current Venture 5.6 to revert back too.

I have some 52mm wheels I can switch too If I get too much wheel bite.   Really hoping this lightweight set up translates to a little more comfort.  Feet and lower back have been taking a beating as of late.

I'll be sure to circle back and give my takes.  Wife my hold on till the holiday tho. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on November 26, 2022, 01:35:55 PM
Gear Madness completely took over.

ordered Thunders Titaniums in 148 and some 54mm dragons.  I ride my ventures pretty loose.  Hope the combo works.

Worse case I'll have my current Venture 5.6 to revert back too.

I have some 52mm wheels I can switch too If I get too much wheel bite.   Really hoping this lightweight set up translates to a little more comfort.  Feet and lower back have been taking a beating as of late.

I'll be sure to circle back and give my takes.  Wife my hold on till the holiday tho.

I'm reassured, I'm not the only one with so much Madness haha ​​It's crazy to react like that when in our first years of skating we didn't think about that..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on November 26, 2022, 01:51:26 PM

I have some 52mm wheels I can switch too If I get too much wheel bite.  Really hoping this lightweight set up translates to a little more comfort.  Feet and lower back have been taking a beating as of late.

Since the trucks are so low and you want comfort, have you considered super thin 1mm shock pads? It's noticeably smoother
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on November 26, 2022, 02:14:15 PM
Isn’t there all kinds of limitations with risers And the ti trucks baseplates or something.   I’m not worried about taking on a pad for sure at right now I ride 5.6 hi ventures. 

Father Time is a MFer that’s for sure. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on November 26, 2022, 03:13:52 PM
Yeah riser/shockpads are usually longer than necessary for thunder baseplates. But it's just thin rubbery plastic so you can easily cut it to the right size with any scissor or knife.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Steely Daniel on November 27, 2022, 01:34:42 AM
I do a shitload of noseslides on Thunder and have no issues. Sometimes with front tails I do but I've never been as good at those as back tails.

Venture forged plus a riser would suck IMO. You're pushing the wheelbase way out compared to an Indy AND it's the same height so your pop angle would be steep as fuck. Just get cast Ventures if you wanna try Ventures and don't try to micromanage the dimensions.

Unless you are bombing hills and need wheels to last why ride such a big clunky wheel? Just cuz he does it for that reason doesn't mean there is any sorta advantage for you.

Man, I was so drunk I forgot I made that post. "Why do you want to try ventures?"  Proceeds to post life story.

I like big wheels because I exclusively skate at a crusty skatepark that has ground like an east coast spot. Slight exaggeration maybe but there are big cracks and the concrete is so weathered it's hard to keep speed. Also, the roads here are trash too. I mostly just like to go fast and do basic tricks. Given up trying to really learn new tricks in my late 30s and would rather just get really good at the handful of tricks I can do. Oh god, I did it again.

Thanks for your input though. I think you're probably right.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rosemaryBB on November 27, 2022, 11:20:45 AM
Might be just honeymoon phase but I think Ventures have actually cured my madness. Anyone else have this sensation?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 27, 2022, 11:29:23 AM
Might be just honeymoon phase but I think Ventures have actually cured my madness. Anyone else have this sensation?

Yes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on November 27, 2022, 02:12:04 PM
Might be just honeymoon phase but I think Ventures have actually cured my madness. Anyone else have this sensation?

Exactly the same for me.. I rode Venture for years (8 years), and I wanted to change because someone once told me "your board is heavy", and madness begin.. I tried Thunder, perfect for the flat but too light and too low, and I injured my ankle because of that (360 flip poorly controlled, which turned into 480 and my foot tensed on the nose while landing..), and the feeling on these trucks  .. I don't know, still very tight, rigid .. no soft damping.

I then tried Independent, perfect comfort, I appreciated the height, except that they were too heavy.. I then tried the indy hollows, very good but not solid and all my tricks did not go through..

I finally came back to Venture, almost 1 year ago, and it's perfect. I feel like I have my best skating with them.. but, is this surely normal because these are the first trucks I rode and for a long time out of habit ?

I think you shouldn't change once you've found your truck brand .. which creates madness ahah
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on November 27, 2022, 02:29:14 PM
I’ve ridden ventures for 25+ years.  But recently got caught up in madness. Even came on here to get advice about narrower ventures. Instead ended up ordering titanium thunders.  Lol. 

Gear madness sucks.  I know there is no single change that is going to unlock tricks. But I will never know unless I mix it up a bit. 

What drove me to try Thunder was someone suggesting the grind easier / smoother.  As I age making anything g easier is a good thing.  Combined with the Significant weight savings.  Inc cycling / road bike I would get my bike as light as possible. To save a kind or two.  Feel like that strategy might payoff on my board. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on November 27, 2022, 02:32:15 PM
I rode Venture for about 10 years before switching briefly to ACE and then to Thunders because I sized down (been on my current set for 3 years) is it time to switch back to Venture?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on November 27, 2022, 02:34:05 PM
I’ve ridden ventures for 25+ years.  But recently got caught up in madness. Even came on here to get advice about narrower ventures. Instead ended up ordering titanium thunders.  Lol. 

Gear madness sucks.  I know there is no single change that is going to unlock tricks. But I will never know unless I mix it up a bit. 

What drove me to try Thunder was someone suggesting the grind easier / smoother.  As I age making anything g easier is a good thing.  Combined with the Significant weight savings.  Inc cycling / road bike I would get my bike as light as possible. To save a kind or two.  Feel like that strategy might payoff on my board.

As I mentioned, I find that trucks that are too light quickly become uncontrollable.. I still like having a certain weight, feeling my board, and I appreciate my slow turning tricks better! I don't think the weight helps for the tricks after all.. (Unless.. ?  ;D )
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on November 27, 2022, 02:34:49 PM
Venture for life.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 27, 2022, 03:42:54 PM
I rode Venture for about 10 years before switching briefly to ACE and then to Thunders because I sized down (been on my current set for 3 years) is it time to switch back to Venture?

You’ve been pretty dedicated to 147s, which are dope…you ride bigger wheels tho yeah? You could maybe get away with 5.2 HI’s and no risers. Turn is different for sure.
Most important thing for me with trucks is the pop. I like both thunder and venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on November 27, 2022, 04:05:16 PM
I tend to over pop tricks on flat. So it’s zaps energy and I think it’s leading to injury.  I would prefer to do them a bit lower and more efficient.  Think more Rick Howard goldfish and less Marcus McBride if that makes sense. Janowski , MJ others. ( just for reference ) - Chico is super efficient. 

My hope is to flick a bit quicker / lower.  Less energy more efficient.  I’m I bit tall so I think the pop is just part of the mechanics.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on November 27, 2022, 04:05:31 PM
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I rode Venture for about 10 years before switching briefly to ACE and then to Thunders because I sized down (been on my current set for 3 years) is it time to switch back to Venture?
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You’ve been pretty dedicated to 147s, which are dope…you ride bigger wheels tho yeah? You could maybe get away with 5.2 HI’s and no risers. Turn is different for sure.
Most important thing for me with trucks is the pop. I like both thunder and venture.
Yeah I ride 54mm with 1/8 rider’s because my trucks are pretty loose. I’ve noticed I’ve been wiffing a lot of my tricks lately which I mostly blame on the steeper kicks I’ve been trying. I don’t like flat boards so I’m thinking it might be time to sit a little lower.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 27, 2022, 04:49:05 PM
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I rode Venture for about 10 years before switching briefly to ACE and then to Thunders because I sized down (been on my current set for 3 years) is it time to switch back to Venture?
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You’ve been pretty dedicated to 147s, which are dope…you ride bigger wheels tho yeah? You could maybe get away with 5.2 HI’s and no risers. Turn is different for sure.
Most important thing for me with trucks is the pop. I like both thunder and venture.
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Yeah I ride 54mm with 1/8 rider’s because my trucks are pretty loose. I’ve noticed I’ve been wiffing a lot of my tricks lately which I mostly blame on the steeper kicks I’ve been trying. I don’t like flat boards so I’m thinking it might be time to sit a little lower.

147s are hard to skate with 53s even.
I really don’t like risers.
I don’t skate that well with big wheels, and complain, bitterly, when I have big wheels because of the weight. Big baby.
I also don’t favor looser trucks (lose too much pop).
I like flat boards. A lot.
So take all of my shit with a huge grain of salt.
I ride my 5.2 HI’s with 53ish wheel, and recently switched to the forged plate and those work well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 27, 2022, 06:10:14 PM
Just noticed how active the Venture thread is compared to other truck threads:

Ace
Started 2010
6000 posts

Venture
Started 2020
3500 posts

Thunder
Started 2021
900 posts

Maybe the #1 rule of riding Venture is you don't stop posting about how much you love Venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 27, 2022, 06:12:55 PM
I tend to over pop tricks on flat. So it’s zaps energy and I think it’s leading to injury.  I would prefer to do them a bit lower and more efficient.  Think more Rick Howard goldfish and less Marcus McBride if that makes sense. Janowski , MJ others. ( just for reference ) - Chico is super efficient. 

My hope is to flick a bit quicker / lower.  Less energy more efficient.  I’m I bit tall so I think the pop is just part of the mechanics.

I’ve always wanted big pop on my flip tricks, but some of my absolute favorite skaters tend to muffle their flip tricks a bit…basically spreading the feet further apart before popping helps increase my consistency, and decreases my pop.
I liked your skater examples
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 27, 2022, 06:13:48 PM
Just noticed how active the Venture thread is compared to other truck threads:

Ace
Started 2010
6000 posts

Venture
Started 2020
3500 posts

Thunder
Started 2021
900 posts

Maybe the #1 rule of riding Venture is you don't stop posting about how much you love Venture.

64% of my posts are in this thread. Probably.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 28, 2022, 03:13:44 AM
false flag? didnt know 6.1 cast hollows existed…
https://socalskateshop.com/Venture-6-1-Hi-Kader-Sylla-V-Cast-Hollow-Pro-Trucks-Silver.html
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 28, 2022, 07:43:35 AM
If anyone is still looking SPoT has 5.6 and 5.8 V-Lights on sale with code CYBERMON for 25%, but no free shipping:

5.6 at $30 a pair
https://skateparkoftampa.com/product/87305/Venture_Polished_Blue_Vincent_Touzery_Pro_V-Lights_Truck/&CID=15815

5.8 at $36 a pair
https://skateparkoftampa.com/product/79457/Venture_Polished_V-Light_Trucks/&CID=242
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: swellbowed on November 28, 2022, 07:47:54 AM
false flag? didnt know 6.1 cast hollows existed…
https://socalskateshop.com/Venture-6-1-Hi-Kader-Sylla-V-Cast-Hollow-Pro-Trucks-Silver.html
Looks like it. Pretty sure they were only made in 5.2H, 5.6, & 5.8
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DeepSpace9mm on November 28, 2022, 09:26:45 AM
false flag? didnt know 6.1 cast hollows existed…
https://socalskateshop.com/Venture-6-1-Hi-Kader-Sylla-V-Cast-Hollow-Pro-Trucks-Silver.html

I emailed them to find out and that is indeed false info in the listing. There are no 6.1 Cast Hollows.

Bummer. I got excited to try those out and was about to smash that “buy” button.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on November 28, 2022, 01:41:22 PM
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Just noticed how active the Venture thread is compared to other truck threads:

Ace
Started 2010
6000 posts

Venture
Started 2020
3500 posts

Thunder
Started 2021
900 posts

Maybe the #1 rule of riding Venture is you don't stop posting about how much you love Venture.
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64% of my posts are in this thread. Probably.

More time AWAKE means more time to post
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on November 29, 2022, 03:42:35 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/334641837073

25 bucks for almost brand new vintage ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on November 29, 2022, 03:44:11 PM
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Just noticed how active the Venture thread is compared to other truck threads:

Ace
Started 2010
6000 posts

Venture
Started 2020
3500 posts

Thunder
Started 2021
900 posts

Maybe the #1 rule of riding Venture is you don't stop posting about how much you love Venture.
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64% of my posts are in this thread. Probably.
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More time AWAKE means more time to post

Yea, you die hard venture guys are fanatics for sure.

I dig it.

If my preferred truck wasn't Indy I'd probably be all crazy about them too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 29, 2022, 05:15:56 PM
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Just noticed how active the Venture thread is compared to other truck threads:

Ace
Started 2010
6000 posts

Venture
Started 2020
3500 posts

Thunder
Started 2021
900 posts

Maybe the #1 rule of riding Venture is you don't stop posting about how much you love Venture.
[close]

64% of my posts are in this thread. Probably.
[close]

More time AWAKE means more time to post
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Yea, you die hard venture guys are fanatics for sure.

I dig it.

If my preferred truck wasn't Indy I'd probably be all crazy about them too.

Ace and Venture riders are similar in their fanaticism for their trucks, just like how the trucks are polar opposites in how much they shift the wheels in / out. We are the Ying and Yang of the industry and message board.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on November 30, 2022, 06:55:27 AM
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Just noticed how active the Venture thread is compared to other truck threads:

Ace
Started 2010
6000 posts

Venture
Started 2020
3500 posts

Thunder
Started 2021
900 posts

Maybe the #1 rule of riding Venture is you don't stop posting about how much you love Venture.
[close]

64% of my posts are in this thread. Probably.
[close]

More time AWAKE means more time to post
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Yea, you die hard venture guys are fanatics for sure.

I dig it.

If my preferred truck wasn't Indy I'd probably be all crazy about them too.
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Ace and Venture riders are similar in their fanaticism for their trucks, just like how the trucks are polar opposites in how much they shift the wheels in / out. We are the Ying and Yang of the industry and message board.

I am the balance between the two on my boring indy's
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on November 30, 2022, 12:09:17 PM
I have two setups with identical decks, but one on Aces and one on Thunders. Guess that makes me bipolar.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on November 30, 2022, 09:45:04 PM
I really like this thread and follow it closely even though I’m a “strictly Aces” guy. There’s something magical about Ventures. The pop but something else too. They’re definitely not boring like some other trucks. Big respect to everyone rocking Ventures. I love to see it!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on November 30, 2022, 11:38:56 PM
I really like this thread and follow it closely even though I’m a “strictly Aces” guy. There’s something magical about Ventures. The pop but something else too. They’re definitely not boring like some other trucks. Big respect to everyone rocking Ventures. I love to see it!

What do you mean by « magical » ?  :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on December 01, 2022, 12:49:51 AM
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I really like this thread and follow it closely even though I’m a “strictly Aces” guy. There’s something magical about Ventures. The pop but something else too. They’re definitely not boring like some other trucks. Big respect to everyone rocking Ventures. I love to see it!
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What do you mean by « magical » ?  :)


Hard to explain but since you're a "FrenchSkater", they have a **Je Ne Sais Quoi** to them...   8)

I currently have 3 set-ups...

1st 8.25inch Popsicle w/Venture V-hollows 5.6
2nd 8.8inch Squared tail football w/Venture V-hollows 6.1
3rd 10inch Shaped fish tail w/ACE F1 77

I have mad fun in all of them, but I feel some type of way when ridding Ventures... They just look cool af!
Plus the team is sick and the brand image is just far superior to any other truck brand at the moment IMO.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on December 01, 2022, 01:17:25 AM
https://youtu.be/h25BdW52rVg
8.5, 5.8’s, 14.5 wb
That’s gotta be a hefty feeling board.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Filip on December 01, 2022, 01:53:49 AM
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I really like this thread and follow it closely even though I’m a “strictly Aces” guy. There’s something magical about Ventures. The pop but something else too. They’re definitely not boring like some other trucks. Big respect to everyone rocking Ventures. I love to see it!
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What do you mean by « magical » ?  :)

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Hard to explain but since you're a "FrenchSkater", they have a **Je Ne Sais Quoi** to them...   8)

I currently have 3 set-ups...

1st 8.25inch Popsicle w/Venture V-hollows 5.6
2nd 8.8inch Squared tail football w/Venture V-hollows 6.1
3rd 10inch Shaped fish tail w/ACE F1 77

I have mad fun in all of them, but I feel some type of way when ridding Ventures... They just look cool af!
Plus the team is sick and the brand image is just far superior to any other truck brand at the moment IMO.

I absolutely agree with them looking cool AF and just riding Ventures feels different. I was a Thunder guy all my life on my regular board. I purchased Ventures, the 6.1 for my cruiser setup sometime last year. And when a time came to get rid of my old Thunders 151s, I was really thinking about just buying another Thunders and keep it the same.

I saw a post here on Slap, I think it was either a setup thread or trucks down to the axle thread, and somebody had Ventures that were pretty destroyed, but just looked cool as fuck. I started looking to those on my cruiser, and after a week, I tried them on my regular board. First 2 sessions were a little crazy, but after the bushings started working properly and I re-learned how to pop and slide with the baseplate, it was on. I fell in love and like I found something that I was missing for 19 years of skating.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on December 01, 2022, 02:33:49 AM
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I really like this thread and follow it closely even though I’m a “strictly Aces” guy. There’s something magical about Ventures. The pop but something else too. They’re definitely not boring like some other trucks. Big respect to everyone rocking Ventures. I love to see it!
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What do you mean by « magical » ?  :)

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Hard to explain but since you're a "FrenchSkater", they have a **Je Ne Sais Quoi** to them...   8)

I currently have 3 set-ups...

1st 8.25inch Popsicle w/Venture V-hollows 5.6
2nd 8.8inch Squared tail football w/Venture V-hollows 6.1
3rd 10inch Shaped fish tail w/ACE F1 77

I have mad fun in all of them, but I feel some type of way when ridding Ventures... They just look cool af!
Plus the team is sick and the brand image is just far superior to any other truck brand at the moment IMO.

I understand ! And I have the impression that a lot of skaters went to Venture because independent is made in China now.. well, maybe that's not the reason, but I don't know why many went to venture!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on December 01, 2022, 03:41:12 AM
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I really like this thread and follow it closely even though I’m a “strictly Aces” guy. There’s something magical about Ventures. The pop but something else too. They’re definitely not boring like some other trucks. Big respect to everyone rocking Ventures. I love to see it!
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What do you mean by « magical » ?  :)

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Hard to explain but since you're a "FrenchSkater", they have a **Je Ne Sais Quoi** to them...   8)

I currently have 3 set-ups...

1st 8.25inch Popsicle w/Venture V-hollows 5.6
2nd 8.8inch Squared tail football w/Venture V-hollows 6.1
3rd 10inch Shaped fish tail w/ACE F1 77

I have mad fun in all of them, but I feel some type of way when ridding Ventures... They just look cool af!
Plus the team is sick and the brand image is just far superior to any other truck brand at the moment IMO.
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I understand ! And I have the impression that a lot of skaters went to Venture because independent is made in China now.. well, maybe that's not the reason, but I don't know why many went to venture!

Yeah, like has been addressed already, there’s just something to them. I can’t explain magic but I appreciate it even if I’m not a magician myself.  :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on December 01, 2022, 05:25:34 AM
I really like this thread and follow it closely even though I’m a “strictly Aces” guy. There’s something magical about Ventures. The pop but something else too. They’re definitely not boring like some other trucks. Big respect to everyone rocking Ventures. I love to see it!

Same, i just like the overall nerdery/fanaticism.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on December 01, 2022, 05:35:21 AM
Anyone know of shops getting the Ted Barrow Ventures? Venture's Instagram made a post saying they'll be arriving at shops now and I'm trying to grab a set.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on December 01, 2022, 05:42:21 AM
Anyone know of shops getting the Ted Barrow Ventures? Venture's Instagram made a post saying they'll be arriving at shops now and I'm trying to grab a set.

Came here to post these. They’re cast hollow too!
(https://i.ibb.co/vHptbVT/2-C7-A6162-5-ECE-4-F6-F-8-CF7-2-E3-FCD851-B6-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vHptbVT)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on December 01, 2022, 05:44:43 AM
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Anyone know of shops getting the Ted Barrow Ventures? Venture's Instagram made a post saying they'll be arriving at shops now and I'm trying to grab a set.
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Came here to post these. They’re cast hollow too! Here’s the link:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CloFIvaLIWr/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

Has he always been a venture guy? Thought he was on indys
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on December 01, 2022, 05:46:43 AM
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Anyone know of shops getting the Ted Barrow Ventures? Venture's Instagram made a post saying they'll be arriving at shops now and I'm trying to grab a set.
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Came here to post these. They’re cast hollow too! Here’s the link:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CloFIvaLIWr/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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Has he always been a venture guy? Thought he was on indys

Pretty sure he's skated both but always been heavy into venture's.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on December 01, 2022, 05:47:19 AM
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Anyone know of shops getting the Ted Barrow Ventures? Venture's Instagram made a post saying they'll be arriving at shops now and I'm trying to grab a set.
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Came here to post these. They’re cast hollow too!
(https://i.ibb.co/vHptbVT/2-C7-A6162-5-ECE-4-F6-F-8-CF7-2-E3-FCD851-B6-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vHptbVT)

only 5.2 and 5.8? Why no 5.6?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on December 01, 2022, 05:48:56 AM
Is this the first time someone who would just be considered an "influencer" or something adjacent to that, and not a pro has gotten a "pro" model something on a LEGIT brand?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on December 01, 2022, 05:52:22 AM
Ok everyone I’m looking for words of advice to get me hyped on ventures!

I have a set of 5.2 lows (cast plates)on the way, I’m coming off thunder 147s that have inverted kingpins.

It’s my first time riding ventures since the green bushing feather lite lows on the 90s

What bushing setups work great with the lows?

Has anyone used an inverted i goin in the lows? I’m guessing not because the cavity doesn’t look like it will hold the kingpin but maybe there is a way?

Anything else I need to know?

Thanks in advance!!!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 01, 2022, 06:01:49 AM
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Anyone know of shops getting the Ted Barrow Ventures? Venture's Instagram made a post saying they'll be arriving at shops now and I'm trying to grab a set.
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Came here to post these. They’re cast hollow too! Here’s the link:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CloFIvaLIWr/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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Has he always been a venture guy? Thought he was on indys
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Pretty sure he's skated both but always been heavy into venture's.

Likes and skates both, doesn't care much about dimensions and madness parameters.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on December 01, 2022, 06:19:23 AM
Ok everyone I’m looking for words of advice to get me hyped on ventures!

I have a set of 5.2 lows (cast plates)on the way, I’m coming off thunder 147s that have inverted kingpins.

It’s my first time riding ventures since the green bushing feather lite lows on the 90s

What bushing setups work great with the lows?

Has anyone used an inverted i goin in the lows? I’m guessing not because the cavity doesn’t look like it will hold the kingpin but maybe there is a way?

Anything else I need to know?

Thanks in advance!!!

So long as you are ok with the way they turn(or don't), just ride them stock.  I always found stock lows to be really solid.  I think this is the best truck for flipping in and out of manuals if that is your thing - quick flip and really stable.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bo Turners Masonic Fish on December 01, 2022, 06:31:54 AM
Ok everyone I’m looking for words of advice to get me hyped on ventures!

I have a set of 5.2 lows (cast plates)on the way, I’m coming off thunder 147s that have inverted kingpins.

It’s my first time riding ventures since the green bushing feather lite lows on the 90s

What bushing setups work great with the lows?

Has anyone used an inverted i goin in the lows? I’m guessing not because the cavity doesn’t look like it will hold the kingpin but maybe there is a way?

Anything else I need to know?

Thanks in advance!!!

The bushings are the same height as on the standards. I used to swap them for the green supercush because they helped with wheelbite and they reminded me of my childhood.

I also put a set of K4 inverted pins in a set, but I was sloppy and got JB weld in the nuts and couldn't use them. So they will fit inside the plate, which is the same as the highs (Hi and Lo differ based on the hangar).

Also (unrelated) those feedback hollows are the only time I've ever been tempted to buy trucks with a graphic.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on December 01, 2022, 06:55:27 AM
The 5.2’s are highs I assume…..

I ran IKPs in thunders….planned on doing it in ventures 5.6’s but I got lazy and didn’t need it because the clearance is way better and they don’t grind down as fast…..

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on December 01, 2022, 07:14:30 AM
The 5.2’s are highs I assume…..

I ran IKPs in thunders….planned on doing it in ventures 5.6’s but I got lazy and didn’t need it because the clearance is way better and they don’t grind down as fast…..

Thanks for the replies everyone,
The 5.2 are lows, it sounds like I won’t try inverted pins, unless somebody 3d prints inserts that will accommodate the nut lol

I loved the kreper pins in my thunders, and I have a back up set of 147 if I end up not enjoying the venturesome
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on December 01, 2022, 07:16:48 AM
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Ok everyone I’m looking for words of advice to get me hyped on ventures!

I have a set of 5.2 lows (cast plates)on the way, I’m coming off thunder 147s that have inverted kingpins.

It’s my first time riding ventures since the green bushing feather lite lows on the 90s

What bushing setups work great with the lows?

Has anyone used an inverted i goin in the lows? I’m guessing not because the cavity doesn’t look like it will hold the kingpin but maybe there is a way?

Anything else I need to know?

Thanks in advance!!!
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So long as you are ok with the way they turn(or don't), just ride them stock.  I always found stock lows to be really solid.  I think this is the best truck for flipping in and out of manuals if that is your thing - quick flip and really stable.
Thanks! I’m hyped for the quick flip and heavier weight than the 147s. Hopefully I’ll stop whiffing my flip tricks with the extra heft

Do the stock bushings freeze? My thunders did
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on December 01, 2022, 07:28:36 AM
I know I think I'm gonna break my no hollow rule after my immeasurable disappointment with skating indy forged hollows and grab a pair of those for the bear.

I like ventures, those and indys work best for me. mixture of childhood nostalgia and the fact there's not as much going on with the turn and stuff I feel more confident skating faster and switch. trying some af1s since summer after ventures, and then trying venture again since has cemented that I value skating good over swerving around all slow.

kinda bummed they don't come in 5.6 as I kinda wanted to size down as I always aspire to skate more tech, but it works out b/c I'll probably hate them anyway like every other pair of trucks that are under/over 8.5.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on December 01, 2022, 07:33:47 AM
Ok everyone I’m looking for words of advice to get me hyped on ventures!

I have a set of 5.2 lows (cast plates)on the way, I’m coming off thunder 147s that have inverted kingpins.

It’s my first time riding ventures since the green bushing feather lite lows on the 90s

What bushing setups work great with the lows?

Has anyone used an inverted i goin in the lows? I’m guessing not because the cavity doesn’t look like it will hold the kingpin but maybe there is a way?

Anything else I need to know?

Thanks in advance!!!

those green bushings..nostalgia..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Scholesey on December 01, 2022, 08:03:23 AM
Kinda left field question, but I was flirting with Ventures recently and they seem to be more of an “american” trucks, meaning that here in Europe, I do not see that much content being put out by people that ride ‘em. Even tho Ace is trending here rn, you still see lots of Indy/Thunder people here, but not so many Venture. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: backside_frontside on December 01, 2022, 08:18:32 AM
Kinda left field question, but I was flirting with Ventures recently and they seem to be more of an “american” trucks, meaning that here in Europe, I do not see that much content being put out by people that ride ‘em. Even tho Ace is trending here rn, you still see lots of Indy/Thunder people here, but not so many Venture. Thoughts?

Leo Cholet part out a part for Venture earlier this year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiY9SArnBD8&t=2s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiY9SArnBD8&t=2s)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Scholesey on December 01, 2022, 08:24:40 AM
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Kinda left field question, but I was flirting with Ventures recently and they seem to be more of an “american” trucks, meaning that here in Europe, I do not see that much content being put out by people that ride ‘em. Even tho Ace is trending here rn, you still see lots of Indy/Thunder people here, but not so many Venture. Thoughts?
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Leo Cholet part out a part for Venture earlier this year. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiY9SArnBD8&t=2s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiY9SArnBD8&t=2s)

Sick part!

It just seems that Ventures has bigger following in the US, dunno why.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on December 01, 2022, 08:29:22 AM
Kinda left field question, but I was flirting with Ventures recently and they seem to be more of an “american” trucks, meaning that here in Europe, I do not see that much content being put out by people that ride ‘em. Even tho Ace is trending here rn, you still see lots of Indy/Thunder people here, but not so many Venture. Thoughts?

SF pride is a pretty big part of their image, and i doubt most europeans relate to/care about that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Scholesey on December 01, 2022, 08:32:28 AM
Kinda left field question, but I was flirting with Ventures recently and they seem to be more of an “american” trucks, meaning that here in Europe, I do not see that much content being put out by people that ride ‘em. Even tho Ace is trending here rn, you still see lots of Indy/Thunder people here, but not so many Venture. Thoughts?

Just to clarify, here meaning in Europe, not Slap.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on December 01, 2022, 08:41:37 AM
Kinda left field question, but I was flirting with Ventures recently and they seem to be more of an “american” trucks, meaning that here in Europe, I do not see that much content being put out by people that ride ‘em. Even tho Ace is trending here rn, you still see lots of Indy/Thunder people here, but not so many Venture. Thoughts?

I'm in Austria, whenever I see people skating ventures it's tech guys riding 8.0 with venture lows. Never seen Venture hi's before I recently bought some 5.6s myself.

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Ok everyone I’m looking for words of advice to get me hyped on ventures!

I have a set of 5.2 lows (cast plates)on the way, I’m coming off thunder 147s that have inverted kingpins.

It’s my first time riding ventures since the green bushing feather lite lows on the 90s

What bushing setups work great with the lows?

Has anyone used an inverted i goin in the lows? I’m guessing not because the cavity doesn’t look like it will hold the kingpin but maybe there is a way?

Anything else I need to know?

Thanks in advance!!!
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So long as you are ok with the way they turn(or don't), just ride them stock.  I always found stock lows to be really solid.  I think this is the best truck for flipping in and out of manuals if that is your thing - quick flip and really stable.
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Do the stock bushings freeze? My thunders did

They freeze just like thunders, I wish DLX would change up their bushings so they work in the colder months.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on December 01, 2022, 08:44:45 AM
They’re just a smaller more niche brand, lower down on the totem pole in terms of distribution.  I’d say here, Canada,  they are skated close to what people skate thunders….

The brand has had to change because they were the low tech truck, but suddenly everyone is skating 8.25’s and transition and slapplies….

I didn’t try the truck for awhile because I wanted to skate them based on nostalgia ie. low but now I think the high is a good truck.  Still a good technical truck but you can skate them loose. 

It’s good to see they are making options more readily available.  That’s what I liked about thunder too was after I got the IKP sorted, I could easily find hollow hangers and just swap them out.  Venture was a bit more work, getting TI’s….forget it. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on December 01, 2022, 09:17:15 AM
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Kinda left field question, but I was flirting with Ventures recently and they seem to be more of an “american” trucks, meaning that here in Europe, I do not see that much content being put out by people that ride ‘em. Even tho Ace is trending here rn, you still see lots of Indy/Thunder people here, but not so many Venture. Thoughts?
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Just to clarify, here meaning in Europe, not Slap.
I saw quite of bit of Ventures during my visit to Germany. I noticed Ventures were much cheaper than Indy's at the skate shops I visited so that's probably a factor
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on December 01, 2022, 10:44:44 AM
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Kinda left field question, but I was flirting with Ventures recently and they seem to be more of an “american” trucks, meaning that here in Europe, I do not see that much content being put out by people that ride ‘em. Even tho Ace is trending here rn, you still see lots of Indy/Thunder people here, but not so many Venture. Thoughts?
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I'm in Austria, whenever I see people skating ventures it's tech guys riding 8.0 with venture lows. Never seen Venture hi's before I recently bought some 5.6s myself.

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Ok everyone I’m looking for words of advice to get me hyped on ventures!

I have a set of 5.2 lows (cast plates)on the way, I’m coming off thunder 147s that have inverted kingpins.

It’s my first time riding ventures since the green bushing feather lite lows on the 90s

What bushing setups work great with the lows?

Has anyone used an inverted i goin in the lows? I’m guessing not because the cavity doesn’t look like it will hold the kingpin but maybe there is a way?

Anything else I need to know?

Thanks in advance!!!
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So long as you are ok with the way they turn(or don't), just ride them stock.  I always found stock lows to be really solid.  I think this is the best truck for flipping in and out of manuals if that is your thing - quick flip and really stable.
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Do the stock bushings freeze? My thunders did
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They freeze just like thunders, I wish DLX would change up their bushings so they work in the colder months.
Big ups I’ll grab some riptide barrels for them because today it’s like 20 degrees
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on December 01, 2022, 01:21:48 PM
Lol loads of people skate Venture in Europe. All the shops have them too.

Not sure where you are getting this from
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Scholesey on December 01, 2022, 01:46:08 PM
Lol loads of people skate Venture in Europe. All the shops have them too.

Not sure where you are getting this from

Well for starters I haven’t seem many of them in the wild, and in most of the european footage I personally see there are not that many. I’ve spotted some in the latest Bye Jeremy video from Paris tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on December 01, 2022, 01:47:18 PM
Lol loads of people skate Venture in Europe. All the shops have them too.

Not sure where you are getting this from

Yes, in France, in the years 2000 - 2010, 70% of skaters skated with low ventures !  However, nowadays .. with the "trendy" style, there has been a great rise of indy ! But, now Venture is slowly coming back because people are realizing that these are great trucks. (Ace is popular now too!)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on December 01, 2022, 11:41:59 PM
Lol loads of people skate Venture in Europe. All the shops have them too.

Not sure where you are getting this from

About 5 or so years back I bought a set of Ventures to try them out. I live in Finland. Couldn’t find them anywhere in Finland. Only place that I found them was Skatedeluxe and when I was ready to buy they just ran out of the 5.8s. Had to wait for some months for them to restock. Wasn’t exactly easy back then at least. I’m not sure how much the availability has improved since then but at least in Finland they’re still fairly uncommon I’d say.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on December 02, 2022, 12:28:16 AM
Strange

Here in Barcelona every shop has them. Same in Ireland and UK.

I would say from my experience Indy are the biggest then a close tie between Ace and Venture for second. ACE probably wins by a margin.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ImmanuelCunt on December 02, 2022, 12:50:30 AM
Whoever recommended ace low bushings here. THANK YOU.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Deadringer on December 02, 2022, 01:16:23 AM
Will Venture ever make a 9" truck? I can get a 6.1 to stretch up to an 8.8 but would love them to bring out a slightly bigger size.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on December 02, 2022, 08:47:53 AM
Will Venture ever make a 9" truck? I can get a 6.1 to stretch up to an 8.8 but would love them to bring out a slightly bigger size.

back of the line buddy, we're still waiting for a 5.6 LO
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on December 02, 2022, 09:01:49 AM
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Will Venture ever make a 9" truck? I can get a 6.1 to stretch up to an 8.8 but would love them to bring out a slightly bigger size.
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back of the line buddy, we're still waiting for a 5.6 LO

No kidding, 5.6 LO please!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on December 02, 2022, 09:32:42 AM
More redrilled Ventures.

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClrCugGJ_lc/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Scholesey on December 02, 2022, 09:48:25 AM
Quick question, does any of you guys ride Ventures looser with stock everything on wider boards (8.5+)?
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Post by: IpathCats on December 02, 2022, 10:17:53 AM
More redrilled Ventures.

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClrCugGJ_lc/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

OK, i need some answers god dammit. why are people doing this?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on December 02, 2022, 11:23:52 AM
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More redrilled Ventures.

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClrCugGJ_lc/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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OK, i need some answers god dammit. why are people doing this?

Watch it be something dumb like “ so I can get my skate tool on the hardware” :D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 02, 2022, 11:33:16 AM
I've been told that Venture makes those plates and gives them to riders that ask. It's to pull the wheelbase in to where Indys sit for dudes that are used to that pop feel and wheelbase. That and the loose bushing kit makes them as close to an Indy as you're going to get.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on December 02, 2022, 11:48:43 AM
Quick question, does any of you guys ride Ventures looser with stock everything on wider boards (8.5+)?

Not quite, but I run 5.8s with the loose trucks kit on a 8.5 board. Had a couple of sessions on the stock bushings and that worked totally fine, but I prefer the much looser feeling with the conversion kit. Anything in particular you wanna know about that combination?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Scholesey on December 02, 2022, 12:24:31 PM
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Quick question, does any of you guys ride Ventures looser with stock everything on wider boards (8.5+)?
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Not quite, but I run 5.8s with the loose trucks kit on a 8.5 board. Had a couple of sessions on the stock bushings and that worked totally fine, but I prefer the much looser feeling with the conversion kit. Anything in particular you wanna know about that combination?

I got the 5.8s cast, had a few sessions, coming from Thunder/Ace/Indy phase. There is something special about them, I really like the image too. I’m back on Indy rn and they work totally fine, but I am still thinking about those Ventures hehe. I like to skate everything, not favoring anything that much(eg. not being solely ledge skater). The thing is, I do not know if I can get used to the bigger turning radius and I like to skate shorter wide boards with short wheelbases, hence dunno if the Ventures are a good move, since they push the wb out.

Sorry, too much time on my hands to think rn hehe.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on December 02, 2022, 12:39:31 PM
Gotcha. The conversion kit makes them more responsive, but you'll never get Ventures to turn on a dime. It's just not what they're made for. If you you prefer  a really short effective wheelbase (measured from axle to axle), you're better off with different trucks. I actually run one setup with Ventures and one with Aces on identical decks to get the best of both worlds. Seriously considering setting up a third with Thunders for a nice middle ground, but I'll take these considerations to the gear madness thread.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Scholesey on December 02, 2022, 12:52:50 PM
Gotcha. The conversion kit makes them more responsive, but you'll never get Ventures to turn on a dime. It's just not what they're made for. If you you prefer  a really short effective wheelbase (measured from axle to axle), you're better off with different trucks. I actually run one setup with Ventures and one with Aces on identical decks to get the best of both worlds. Seriously considering setting up a third with Thunders for a nice middle ground, but I'll take these considerations to the gear madness thread.

Yeaaaaah, I that’s the thing, maybe I do not know what I want and I can’t do multiple setups hehe. I have beaten my madness (almost), but still am sometimes dreaming about Ventures. Now I know how all the major trucks work at least hehe.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on December 02, 2022, 01:50:23 PM
I've been told that Venture makes those plates and gives them to riders that ask. It's to pull the wheelbase in to where Indys sit for dudes that are used to that pop feel and wheelbase. That and the loose bushing kit makes them as close to an Indy as you're going to get.

Thats super interesting. I wish theyd sell those honestly. I love the stability of ventures but the pop feel is never exactly what I want. I feel like that would be the perfect truck for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 02, 2022, 02:47:51 PM
You can get one of those deck jigs and just clamp it to some trucks. Should be pretty easy to drill through soft metal and bonus talking point for when you are at the spot and someone notices
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mick on December 02, 2022, 04:58:48 PM
Anyone got a link to those new Ted Barrow V-Cast Hollows in 5.6?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 02, 2022, 05:41:21 PM
They won't be online or in shops until next week. 5.2 and 5.8 only. Source: DM'ing the Venture IG account.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on December 02, 2022, 11:09:35 PM
Gifted Hater should get a destructo…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on December 03, 2022, 12:17:17 PM
Gifted Hater should get a destructo…..
I immediately pictured a pink hanger/ purple baseplate truck with a heart-o-gram and Gifted Hater in some kind of BAM font.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on December 03, 2022, 02:34:14 PM
You can get one of those deck jigs and just clamp it to some trucks. Should be pretty easy to drill through soft metal and bonus talking point for when you are at the spot and someone notices

I'm not sure if i know exactly what piece you're talking about. Has anyone here redrilled their baseplates before? I was thinking mayber just take some like indy riser pads and tape them on for a template and then just drill through those holes. (I'm not the most knowledgeable when it comes to tools and stuff).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 03, 2022, 04:34:37 PM
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You can get one of those deck jigs and just clamp it to some trucks. Should be pretty easy to drill through soft metal and bonus talking point for when you are at the spot and someone notices
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I'm not sure if i know exactly what piece you're talking about. Has anyone here redrilled their baseplates before? I was thinking mayber just take some like indy riser pads and tape them on for a template and then just drill through those holes. (I'm not the most knowledgeable when it comes to tools and stuff).


You can also bind them together in a 69 type position and drill them like that, but the most common thing is with a six hole baseplate (of any brand) bolted through the existing holes and using the other two holes as a template to drill through.

The Chems kit is the one he was referring to, as per this post:


https://www.instagram.com/p/ClEOqqSupjR/

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Schinken on December 04, 2022, 01:17:08 AM
Might be of interest
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=97297.msg3455096#msg3455096

Used a 6 hole baseplate to redrill
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 04, 2022, 05:09:42 PM
Might be of interest
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=97297.msg3455096#msg3455096

Used a 6 hole baseplate to redrill


That's rad.

Did you find some boards became way lighter feeling in the tail / kicks after doing that too?

Any boards I found that felt way too "heavy" in the kicks often benefit from a truck that sits further in, such as this sort of thing.  Sure it doesn't change the overall weight of the board, but it definitely creates a different feeling where some boards would just be taken off or given away without any modifications.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Schinken on December 04, 2022, 11:46:17 PM
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Might be of interest
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=97297.msg3455096#msg3455096

Used a 6 hole baseplate to redrill
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That's rad.

Did you find some boards became way lighter feeling in the tail / kicks after doing that too?

Any boards I found that felt way too "heavy" in the kicks often benefit from a truck that sits further in, such as this sort of thing.  Sure it doesn't change the overall weight of the board, but it definitely creates a different feeling where some boards would just be taken off or given away without any modifications.

Most of the time I use the back truck to shorten the wheelbase only.  With most tail 6.5 and noses around 7 i get a twin nose setup. Overall the pop gets a more lighter / manageable feel , the setup feels easier to  skate. The downside is I lose pop
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 10, 2022, 09:56:56 AM
I probably said it already but I want to let people know. If you're trucks are too cold to turn the lowering kit will fix that.

Or take exactly 1mm of your extra purps.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on December 10, 2022, 10:13:51 AM
about to inject these into my veins. probably going to grab later today when I get paid. 🤤🫢

(https://i.ibb.co/sPJRBzx/C59-F90-DF-F3-F1-4-BBD-961-E-F3-C86-C3-C8-AA3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sPJRBzx)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: swellbowed on December 10, 2022, 12:45:30 PM
Anyone got a link to those new Ted Barrow V-Cast Hollows in 5.6?
Found em on TGM’s site

https://tgmskateboards.com/venture-skateboard-trucks-v-cast-hollow-ted-barrow-5-8-8-5-axle-pair/



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: swellbowed on December 10, 2022, 12:51:38 PM
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Anyone got a link to those new Ted Barrow V-Cast Hollows in 5.6?
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Found em on TGM’s site

https://tgmskateboards.com/venture-skateboard-trucks-v-cast-hollow-ted-barrow-5-8-8-5-axle-pair/
Pretty sure they only come in 5.2H & 5.8 tho
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 10, 2022, 12:55:00 PM
The link literally says 5-8 in it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: front_crooks on December 10, 2022, 05:37:19 PM
For somebody who likes to switch from 8” to 8.18”, and rarely 8.25”, will Venture 5.2’s get it done? I’m starting to skate more again, and I just put 5.2 highs on my FA 8.18, and it looks kind of sunk. I’m thinking I need that newer in between size, and these 5.2’s just for 8”.

Growing up I skated 7.62-7.75 with 5.0 lows, and never questioned anything else, and knew Indy’s weren’t for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 10, 2022, 05:44:39 PM
Try adding as many washers as too can to the inside of your wheel and see if you can tell. Personally I'd rather do this with a narrower truck to push magic carpet close to flush than run way wider.

You can't compare what you rode years ago to what we ride now. I learned every flip trick I've ever done on 7.4-7.6 with 7.5 ventures or thunder lo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on December 10, 2022, 05:47:22 PM
5.2’s on an 8.125 is a pretty good set up IMO.  I think a mellower board maybe might be the ticket…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 10, 2022, 05:51:47 PM
For somebody who likes to switch from 8” to 8.18”, and rarely 8.25”, will Venture 5.2’s get it done? I’m starting to skate more again, and I just put 5.2 highs on my FA 8.18, and it looks kind of sunk. I’m thinking I need that newer in between size, and these 5.2’s just for 8”.

Growing up I skated 7.62-7.75 with 5.0 lows, and never questioned anything else, and knew Indy’s weren’t for me.

I did it. I also was skating a bunch of 8.5s with the 5.6. so fun. I had a dope shuv nose shape that was 9 at the front truck 8.3 at the back. Huge wb. Board kick flipped so good. Nice and straight

I feel like changing board sizes isn't a big deal. Trucks and especially wheel size is tougher. The change is easier if you do it in chapters
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 10, 2022, 07:07:12 PM
For somebody who likes to switch from 8” to 8.18”, and rarely 8.25”, will Venture 5.2’s get it done? I’m starting to skate more again, and I just put 5.2 highs on my FA 8.18, and it looks kind of sunk. I’m thinking I need that newer in between size, and these 5.2’s just for 8”.

Growing up I skated 7.62-7.75 with 5.0 lows, and never questioned anything else, and knew Indy’s weren’t for me.


The 8" (5.2) up to 8.25" (5.6) truck is probably the smallest increment in size change and when I did it with my trucks a number of years ago now, I could feel the slightly wider axle but it was not a problem.

The best way to check / look at it on your existing board with the 5.2 trucks is sit the wheels on about 2 - 3 mm out further on each side, eg take the axle nuts off and just bring the wheels out to look at while still on the axles or even just have the axle nuts only just on, so you can see where they sit.  *** Don't skate it like that, just look at it.

If that looks like it will work for you, then the 5.6 trucks should be good, but if it looks like it sits out too far, then stick with what you have in the 5.2 size.

I used to add 3 washers to the inside, none outside anyway, as I was always riding the 139s (5.2 width) on 8.12 and 8.18 sized boards for a long time, so the truck and wheel still sat under but was not as much as with only one washer on the inside.

When the 144s (5.6) sized trucks came out in 2017, I didn't need to have so many washers on the inside and it still skated really well on the usual 8.12 and 8.18 boards.

That is just me though and I know others who stayed with the 8" trucks as that was what they were used to, muscle memory being a funny thing like that.


At least if you did get a set of the 5.6 trucks, you could run two setups if needed, the 8" with 5.2 and 8.18 with 5.6, depending on what you were feeling.

I like options like that, but in the end it is up to you really.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on December 10, 2022, 08:36:16 PM
Finally got my first two sessions in on the 5.6 Kaders.  I love them.  I feel like whenever I have tried light and/or hollow trucks in the past, they always feel too light.  With these, I am guessing the longer wheelbase is what makes them feel perfect.  I immediately noticed everything was easier to pop higher, and for flip tricks it felt like I was flipping a more narrow board.  Grinds were the same, though I did have an easier time balancing tricks on one truck.  Manuals took some time to adjust to, as the end off of the ground feels way lighter now, but it clicked after a few attempts.  Riding an 8.25 AWS deck, and that slightly longer tail feels great with these trucks.  Great trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on December 11, 2022, 05:01:20 AM
For somebody who likes to switch from 8” to 8.18”, and rarely 8.25”, will Venture 5.2’s get it done? I’m starting to skate more again, and I just put 5.2 highs on my FA 8.18, and it looks kind of sunk. I’m thinking I need that newer in between size, and these 5.2’s just for 8”.

Growing up I skated 7.62-7.75 with 5.0 lows, and never questioned anything else, and knew Indy’s weren’t for me.
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It works, don’t overthink it. You’re going to skate better on a set of trucks that are already broken in anyway.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on December 11, 2022, 06:25:44 AM
For somebody who likes to switch from 8” to 8.18”, and rarely 8.25”, will Venture 5.2’s get it done? I’m starting to skate more again, and I just put 5.2 highs on my FA 8.18, and it looks kind of sunk. I’m thinking I need that newer in between size, and these 5.2’s just for 8”.

Growing up I skated 7.62-7.75 with 5.0 lows, and never questioned anything else, and knew Indy’s weren’t for me.

5.2 with 8.18 are fine, just mess with more washers on the inside of the axle if you're worried about truck width.

But if you're messing with 5.2s I'd go with the 5.2 Lo or V-Light / V-Hollow. 5.2 Lo with forged baseplates give the best pinch by far of any truck IMHO.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: brownjenkin on December 11, 2022, 08:12:40 AM
For somebody who likes to switch from 8” to 8.18”, and rarely 8.25”, will Venture 5.2’s get it done? I’m starting to skate more again, and I just put 5.2 highs on my FA 8.18, and it looks kind of sunk. I’m thinking I need that newer in between size, and these 5.2’s just for 8”.

Growing up I skated 7.62-7.75 with 5.0 lows, and never questioned anything else, and knew Indy’s weren’t for me.

I agree with adding washers to the 5.2, especially if you go as low as 8.0. This is just a "feel" thing for me, but I think an 8.0 board on 5.6 Ventures would feel wimpy with the hefty feeling trucks. I think 8.25 boards stand up to 8.5 trucks much better, if that makes sense. It's a weird proportion thing.

I'm sure the 5.6s would work just fine though. Just easier to try to bump the 5.2s out 1/8" with washers.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on December 11, 2022, 09:55:36 AM
i sized up to an 8.25 truck a few years back as 8's were getting really tough to find.  In hindsight an 8" truck is fine, 8's and 8.125's are pretty easy to come by now.  Of course, I'm afraid to size down and I'm always sitting on a couple 8.25 decks. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 11, 2022, 11:42:35 AM
I repeat this often: as I’ve gotten older and older and dustier, the larger boards offer less for me. Just too heavy and not helpful

8s, and especially 8” trucks (ventures, duh), make what little time I have to skate go a lot easier.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 13, 2022, 08:36:05 PM
I've often heard Ventures called "a slower turning Indy" in that the slight reduction in height and pushing the wheels back makes a similar pop feel. Is there any truth to this from those that have ridden both standard Indy and Venture High?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: versacekid420 on December 13, 2022, 10:13:40 PM
Venture raw 5.8, 8.25 eddie cernick 3rd press manderson shape with 58 conical fulls is the best setup I’ve ever had. Still running it. Makes the board feel stable with no over hang and is the perfect weight
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: brownjenkin on December 13, 2022, 11:19:35 PM
I've often heard Ventures called "a slower turning Indy" in that the slight reduction in height and pushing the wheels back makes a similar pop feel. Is there any truth to this from those that have ridden both standard Indy and Venture High?

I've had similar thoughts to this. Venture Hi and Indy is what I bounce back and forth between and it's never a rough transition between the two unless the deck they're paired with really isn't a good fit

Thunders on the other hand feel completely alien to me. I've bought a few sets over the years and it's always felt like I'm riding someone else's board
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Schinken on December 14, 2022, 01:21:53 AM
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I've often heard Ventures called "a slower turning Indy" in that the slight reduction in height and pushing the wheels back makes a similar pop feel. Is there any truth to this from those that have ridden both standard Indy and Venture High?
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I've had similar thoughts to this. Venture Hi and Indy is what I bounce back and forth between and it's never a rough transition between the two unless the deck they're paired with really isn't a good fit

Thunders on the other hand feel completely alien to me. I've bought a few sets over the years and it's always felt like I'm riding someone else's board

Same for me. I can always  switch between Venture High and Indy and do not need much time to get used to. My Ventures are actually quite surfy since I put bones mediums in them.

Every time I try Thunders I instantly hate them. They have such a weird turn, their bushings are super sensitive to temperature changes and the wheelbite is awful, even with risers.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on December 14, 2022, 02:32:34 AM
I've often heard Ventures called "a slower turning Indy" in that the slight reduction in height and pushing the wheels back makes a similar pop feel. Is there any truth to this from those that have ridden both standard Indy and Venture High?

Not at all. Independents have a nice pop feel but Venture is completely different. On another level. Independents are very average in many ways are Ventures are very extreme. I think they are liked for completely different reasons.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on December 14, 2022, 04:52:52 AM
I've often heard Ventures called "a slower turning Indy" in that the slight reduction in height and pushing the wheels back makes a similar pop feel. Is there any truth to this from those that have ridden both standard Indy and Venture High?
I would say that venture HI are closer to forged Indy in pop feel in my experience.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on December 14, 2022, 05:40:00 AM
I want to keep the forged baseplates on my 5.8 but 360 flips take a lot more effort to get them around, especially on an 8.5 deck (last was a 8.25 with 5.6 TI). I'll give the cast a shot this weekend when I got time this weekend, think that would make them better rounded for WB < 14.25".
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on December 14, 2022, 07:03:59 AM
For the Venture-curious, 5.0s for $9.99 per truck. I've been using these with ~8.0-8.18 decks and they work great in that size.

https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard-truck.html
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on December 14, 2022, 07:53:46 AM
For the Venture-curious, 5.0s for $9.99 per truck. I've been using these with ~8.0-8.18 decks and they work great in that size.

https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard-truck.html

Aren't the 5.0s  7.63 axle width?
That's a hell of a magic carpet on an 8 inch board
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 15, 2022, 10:35:06 PM
the indy 159 mids @50.5mm tall caught my eye for the height
bigger ventures in that range would be drool worthy
what height would your ideal venture low be? (5.6, 5.8, 6.1)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on December 15, 2022, 11:17:18 PM
I’d like 5.6’s but I could see people skating bigger sizes the same way thunder does it….

I might be a convert to the highs now….I think they are fun skating looser….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Spaced Cadet on December 16, 2022, 06:26:19 AM
I want to keep the forged baseplates on my 5.8 but 360 flips take a lot more effort to get them around, especially on an 8.5 deck (last was a 8.25 with 5.6 TI). I'll give the cast a shot this weekend when I got time this weekend, think that would make them better rounded for WB < 14.25".

I feel like the baseplates shouldn't matter for flat ground tricks. They may feel different due to weight but it shouldn't matter otherwise. The forged baseplate is lower but it also sits further back so they should cancel each other out and result in the pop feel being about the same as a standard cast plate. So I would think the forged would be better for your 360 flips if anything for the slight weight reduction. But you also may just like how the cast feels and result in you being more comfortable on your board and landing them easier for that reason so who knows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on December 16, 2022, 10:09:05 AM
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For the Venture-curious, 5.0s for $9.99 per truck. I've been using these with ~8.0-8.18 decks and they work great in that size.

https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard-truck.html
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Aren't the 5.0s  7.63 axle width?
That's a hell of a magic carpet on an 8 inch board

It's works perfect.

5.0 on Hockey 8.0 is a flip machine

By far the easiest deck I've ever had for 360 flips. Effortless.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on December 16, 2022, 11:04:19 AM
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For the Venture-curious, 5.0s for $9.99 per truck. I've been using these with ~8.0-8.18 decks and they work great in that size.

https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard-truck.html
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Aren't the 5.0s  7.63 axle width?
That's a hell of a magic carpet on an 8 inch board
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It's works perfect.

5.0 on Hockey 8.0 is a flip machine

By far the easiest deck I've ever had for 360 flips. Effortless.

Yeah, flips beautifully, and the wheels are visible on the side of my 8.18" Primitive deck. Well they were, I am back on Ace but I'm going to set up those Ventures one of my discounted FA decks from the big sale.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on December 16, 2022, 08:53:11 PM
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For the Venture-curious, 5.0s for $9.99 per truck. I've been using these with ~8.0-8.18 decks and they work great in that size.

https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard-truck.html
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Aren't the 5.0s  7.63 axle width?
That's a hell of a magic carpet on an 8 inch board
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It's works perfect.

5.0 on Hockey 8.0 is a flip machine

By far the easiest deck I've ever had for 360 flips. Effortless.

Stop! My 360 flip madness is growing by the day!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on December 17, 2022, 06:39:09 AM
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For the Venture-curious, 5.0s for $9.99 per truck. I've been using these with ~8.0-8.18 decks and they work great in that size.

https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard-truck.html
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Aren't the 5.0s  7.63 axle width?
That's a hell of a magic carpet on an 8 inch board
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It's works perfect.

5.0 on Hockey 8.0 is a flip machine

By far the easiest deck I've ever had for 360 flips. Effortless.
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Stop! My 360 flip madness is growing by the day!

Lol sorry

To be specific it was 5.0 hollow lows. Try it you won't regret it with the 8" hockey
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on December 17, 2022, 07:47:58 AM
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For the Venture-curious, 5.0s for $9.99 per truck. I've been using these with ~8.0-8.18 decks and they work great in that size.

https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard-truck.html
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Aren't the 5.0s  7.63 axle width?
That's a hell of a magic carpet on an 8 inch board
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It's works perfect.

5.0 on Hockey 8.0 is a flip machine

By far the easiest deck I've ever had for 360 flips. Effortless.
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Stop! My 360 flip madness is growing by the day!
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Lol sorry

To be specific it was 5.0 hollow lows. Try it you won't regret it with the 8" hockey

I'd love to see you skate some transition on that. Must feel insane
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on December 17, 2022, 07:58:30 AM
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I want to keep the forged baseplates on my 5.8 but 360 flips take a lot more effort to get them around, especially on an 8.5 deck (last was a 8.25 with 5.6 TI). I'll give the cast a shot this weekend when I got time this weekend, think that would make them better rounded for WB < 14.25".
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I feel like the baseplates shouldn't matter for flat ground tricks. They may feel different due to weight but it shouldn't matter otherwise. The forged baseplate is lower but it also sits further back so they should cancel each other out and result in the pop feel being about the same as a standard cast plate. So I would think the forged would be better for your 360 flips if anything for the slight weight reduction. But you also may just like how the cast feels and result in you being more comfortable on your board and landing them easier for that reason so who knows.

I’ve always assumed the slightly shorter wheelbase extension on casts would help with rotational tricks like 360 flips as compared to forged.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on December 17, 2022, 08:02:11 AM
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I want to keep the forged baseplates on my 5.8 but 360 flips take a lot more effort to get them around, especially on an 8.5 deck (last was a 8.25 with 5.6 TI). I'll give the cast a shot this weekend when I got time this weekend, think that would make them better rounded for WB < 14.25".
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I feel like the baseplates shouldn't matter for flat ground tricks. They may feel different due to weight but it shouldn't matter otherwise. The forged baseplate is lower but it also sits further back so they should cancel each other out and result in the pop feel being about the same as a standard cast plate. So I would think the forged would be better for your 360 flips if anything for the slight weight reduction. But you also may just like how the cast feels and result in you being more comfortable on your board and landing them easier for that reason so who knows.
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I’ve always assumed the slightly shorter wheelbase extension on casts would help with rotational tricks like 360 flips as compared to forged.

The wb difference is 0.1" or 2.5 mm (+3.35" on my forged 5.6). There's a 1.25 mm difference on each side. This won't ever influence any flip more than the simple weight difference
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on December 17, 2022, 10:32:45 AM
If you really want accuracy you have to consider technique, skill, and……koo-koo into the equation…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on December 17, 2022, 05:31:27 PM
If you really want accuracy you have to consider technique, skill, and……koo-koo into the equation…

Good point. I’m operating with a surplus of koo-koo and a deficit of skill and technique.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 17, 2022, 08:17:47 PM
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For the Venture-curious, 5.0s for $9.99 per truck. I've been using these with ~8.0-8.18 decks and they work great in that size.

https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard-truck.html
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Aren't the 5.0s  7.63 axle width?
That's a hell of a magic carpet on an 8 inch board
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It's works perfect.

5.0 on Hockey 8.0 is a flip machine

By far the easiest deck I've ever had for 360 flips. Effortless.
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Stop! My 360 flip madness is growing by the day!
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Lol sorry

To be specific it was 5.0 hollow lows. Try it you won't regret it with the 8" hockey
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I'd love to see you skate some transition on that. Must feel insane

Dan Drehobl used to skate for Venture and rode lo's and risers on transition.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on December 17, 2022, 08:32:59 PM
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For the Venture-curious, 5.0s for $9.99 per truck. I've been using these with ~8.0-8.18 decks and they work great in that size.

https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard-truck.html
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Aren't the 5.0s  7.63 axle width?
That's a hell of a magic carpet on an 8 inch board

I ran venture 5.0s v lights on an 8.0 deck this past year and it wasn't horrible. They were expectedly more turny and I liked the weight reduction. Magic carpet wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be, too. I ended up sizing back up since it was noticably harder to lock into some grinds but I also suck and think that says more about me rather than the deck/truck combo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: swellbowed on December 17, 2022, 08:53:20 PM
anybody know where to get either some worrest of manderson 5.2 lo's from an actual skate shop?

FA Skates in Illinois has Worrest 5.2 Low’s:

https://www.faskates.com/venture-52-lo-worrest-plaza-raw-truck-set-of-2.html

Plus Skate Shop in Florida has the Manderons:

https://plusskateshop.com/products/venture-anderson-5-2-lo-8-trucks-set-of-2?variant=39974301204579
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on December 18, 2022, 08:15:05 AM
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For the Venture-curious, 5.0s for $9.99 per truck. I've been using these with ~8.0-8.18 decks and they work great in that size.

https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard-truck.html
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Aren't the 5.0s  7.63 axle width?
That's a hell of a magic carpet on an 8 inch board
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It's works perfect.

5.0 on Hockey 8.0 is a flip machine

By far the easiest deck I've ever had for 360 flips. Effortless.
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Stop! My 360 flip madness is growing by the day!
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Lol sorry

To be specific it was 5.0 hollow lows. Try it you won't regret it with the 8" hockey
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I'd love to see you skate some transition on that. Must feel insane
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Dan Drehobl used to skate for Venture and rode lo's and risers on transition.

With 90a orange DLX Supercush. Kingpins were longer then and stock was 92A. That’s the equivalent of running an 88a in a V low with risers now. Wobble wobble!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 18, 2022, 06:02:51 PM
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For the Venture-curious, 5.0s for $9.99 per truck. I've been using these with ~8.0-8.18 decks and they work great in that size.

https://www.zumiez.com/venture-polished-silver-5-0-skateboard-truck.html
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Aren't the 5.0s  7.63 axle width?
That's a hell of a magic carpet on an 8 inch board
[close]

It's works perfect.

5.0 on Hockey 8.0 is a flip machine

By far the easiest deck I've ever had for 360 flips. Effortless.
[close]

Stop! My 360 flip madness is growing by the day!
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Lol sorry

To be specific it was 5.0 hollow lows. Try it you won't regret it with the 8" hockey
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I'd love to see you skate some transition on that. Must feel insane
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Dan Drehobl used to skate for Venture and rode lo's and risers on transition.
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With 90a orange DLX Supercush. Kingpins were longer then and stock was 92A. That’s the equivalent of running an 88a in a V low with risers now. Wobble wobble!

I thought he rode HI’s, Shao as well. Where is this lo Drehobl evidence? Both super underrated
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 18, 2022, 08:13:16 PM
I preface this with I am likely wrong but I don't recall Venture making a high back then. I'm not sure how to do the @Mbrimson88 sleuthing but I'm sure he could find out. I also wonder if they were even true highs?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 18, 2022, 11:10:35 PM
I preface this with I am likely wrong but I don't recall Venture making a high back then. I'm not sure how to do the @Mbrimson88 sleuthing but I'm sure he could find out. I also wonder if they were even true highs?

Venture absolutely made HI’s. For a short time in the late 90’s they had mids as well (which I had on a zoo York tiger balm graphic, I think it was a Pang).
Anyways, yeah Wade Specer, Shao, Drehobl all rode HI’s. I’m not sure how wide they were…maybe 8? Maybe it was Mbrimson88 mentioned previously that Cancer Dan quit venture because of not being able to get 8.5s…maybe it was someone else. I mean even Julien and Cardiel were riding 8s and smaller…anyways that’s how I sort of remember it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 19, 2022, 02:29:09 AM
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I preface this with I am likely wrong but I don't recall Venture making a high back then. I'm not sure how to do the @Mbrimson88 sleuthing but I'm sure he could find out. I also wonder if they were even true highs?
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Venture absolutely made HI’s. For a short time in the late 90’s they had mids as well (which I had on a zoo York tiger balm graphic, I think it was a Pang).
Anyways, yeah Wade Specer, Shao, Drehobl all rode HI’s. I’m not sure how wide they were…maybe 8? Maybe it was Mbrimson88 mentioned previously that Cancer Dan quit venture because of not being able to get 8.5s…maybe it was someone else. I mean even Julien and Cardiel were riding 8s and smaller…anyways that’s how I sort of remember it



When those Think team guys (all on Venture as well) - Wade, Dan, etc - were out here in Australia roughly 1996-1998, they were all on boards that still looked like 8" or so, with trucks that matched their boards and bigger than average wheels, which looked a little funny on such skinny setups, but it worked for them.  I didn't really get up close and personal with them, when they came and skated the Paddington (Brisbane City) park mid morning with almost no one else there and blew our minds, but we could see their boards well enough when they said bye.  * Think Dedication 1998 video, Wade doing the back 360 grab over the box was all time, with some of us in the background who were there that day, around 1:47 in his video part.

Fast forward a few years and after another trip out here by Dan and co, one of the guys I know ended up with his board, which after going through a few other hands, the trucks ended up with me after the hanger cracked.  I never saw them being skated by him, nor have any hard evidence that they were actually his, but they are the old six hole baseplate with 5.8 hangers and were near impossible for anyone else to get their hands on when those who skated them wanted more, as they were not making them in wider sizes any more, it would seem.

Add all this up and sure enough in a bit, Dan was on 149 Indy trucks, on a Krooked board, so that must have been after 2003 as the Indy trucks were stage 9 and Venture seemed like they were really only doing smaller trucks at that time.


Even Thunder wasn't doing wider sizes for a while, so when their 149ers came out, they were so highly prized and I ended up with a barely used set from another shop guy who hoarded product from back then.

Of all those trucks besides Indy, they were near impossible to find in 8.5" wide for a fair while and the set of the six hole baseplate Venture trucks I have at least look pretty much the same shape, size, height, etc as the modern 5.8 Ventures I have here, only not quite as well finished.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 19, 2022, 06:32:24 PM
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I preface this with I am likely wrong but I don't recall Venture making a high back then. I'm not sure how to do the @Mbrimson88 sleuthing but I'm sure he could find out. I also wonder if they were even true highs?
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Venture absolutely made HI’s. For a short time in the late 90’s they had mids as well (which I had on a zoo York tiger balm graphic, I think it was a Pang).
Anyways, yeah Wade Specer, Shao, Drehobl all rode HI’s. I’m not sure how wide they were…maybe 8? Maybe it was Mbrimson88 mentioned previously that Cancer Dan quit venture because of not being able to get 8.5s…maybe it was someone else. I mean even Julien and Cardiel were riding 8s and smaller…anyways that’s how I sort of remember it
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When those Think team guys (all on Venture as well) - Wade, Dan, etc - were out here in Australia roughly 1996-1998, they were all on boards that still looked like 8" or so, with trucks that matched their boards and bigger than average wheels, which looked a little funny on such skinny setups, but it worked for them.  I didn't really get up close and personal with them, when they came and skated the Paddington (Brisbane City) park mid morning with almost no one else there and blew our minds, but we could see their boards well enough when they said bye.  * Think Dedication 1998 video, Wade doing the back 360 grab over the box was all time, with some of us in the background who were there that day, around 1:47 in his video part.

Fast forward a few years and after another trip out here by Dan and co, one of the guys I know ended up with his board, which after going through a few other hands, the trucks ended up with me after the hanger cracked.  I never saw them being skated by him, nor have any hard evidence that they were actually his, but they are the old six hole baseplate with 5.8 hangers and were near impossible for anyone else to get their hands on when those who skated them wanted more, as they were not making them in wider sizes any more, it would seem.

Add all this up and sure enough in a bit, Dan was on 149 Indy trucks, on a Krooked board, so that must have been after 2003 as the Indy trucks were stage 9 and Venture seemed like they were really only doing smaller trucks at that time.


Even Thunder wasn't doing wider sizes for a while, so when their 149ers came out, they were so highly prized and I ended up with a barely used set from another shop guy who hoarded product from back then.

Of all those trucks besides Indy, they were near impossible to find in 8.5" wide for a fair while and the set of the six hole baseplate Venture trucks I have at least look pretty much the same shape, size, height, etc as the modern 5.8 Ventures I have here, only not quite as well finished.

Thanks for this.

It’s amazing how crude some of the old trucks were. Particularly thunders. I found an old box with broken parts, and there for certain some feather lights and thunders broken before they maybe should have. The casting …it’s amazing how far manufacturing has come, or probably more accurately it is ‘amazing’ to me, how quickly my life has flown by. Those old trucks look remind me of black and white TV footage.

There was a sleekness or roundness to some of the earlier ventures that just looked a little better than they do now. Even weighted for nostalgia. Look at any Phil Shao footage, peak Pupecki, their trucks look great (I’m guessing 1993 -94)

I am a big venture fan so I like how the trucks look, in general.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on December 20, 2022, 05:54:57 AM
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I preface this with I am likely wrong but I don't recall Venture making a high back then. I'm not sure how to do the @Mbrimson88 sleuthing but I'm sure he could find out. I also wonder if they were even true highs?
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Venture absolutely made HI’s. For a short time in the late 90’s they had mids as well (which I had on a zoo York tiger balm graphic, I think it was a Pang).
Anyways, yeah Wade Specer, Shao, Drehobl all rode HI’s. I’m not sure how wide they were…maybe 8? Maybe it was Mbrimson88 mentioned previously that Cancer Dan quit venture because of not being able to get 8.5s…maybe it was someone else. I mean even Julien and Cardiel were riding 8s and smaller…anyways that’s how I sort of remember it
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When those Think team guys (all on Venture as well) - Wade, Dan, etc - were out here in Australia roughly 1996-1998, they were all on boards that still looked like 8" or so, with trucks that matched their boards and bigger than average wheels, which looked a little funny on such skinny setups, but it worked for them.  I didn't really get up close and personal with them, when they came and skated the Paddington (Brisbane City) park mid morning with almost no one else there and blew our minds, but we could see their boards well enough when they said bye.  * Think Dedication 1998 video, Wade doing the back 360 grab over the box was all time, with some of us in the background who were there that day, around 1:47 in his video part.

Fast forward a few years and after another trip out here by Dan and co, one of the guys I know ended up with his board, which after going through a few other hands, the trucks ended up with me after the hanger cracked.  I never saw them being skated by him, nor have any hard evidence that they were actually his, but they are the old six hole baseplate with 5.8 hangers and were near impossible for anyone else to get their hands on when those who skated them wanted more, as they were not making them in wider sizes any more, it would seem.

Add all this up and sure enough in a bit, Dan was on 149 Indy trucks, on a Krooked board, so that must have been after 2003 as the Indy trucks were stage 9 and Venture seemed like they were really only doing smaller trucks at that time.


Even Thunder wasn't doing wider sizes for a while, so when their 149ers came out, they were so highly prized and I ended up with a barely used set from another shop guy who hoarded product from back then.

Of all those trucks besides Indy, they were near impossible to find in 8.5" wide for a fair while and the set of the six hole baseplate Venture trucks I have at least look pretty much the same shape, size, height, etc as the modern 5.8 Ventures I have here, only not quite as well finished.
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Thanks for this.

It’s amazing how crude some of the old trucks were. Particularly thunders. I found an old box with broken parts, and there for certain some feather lights and thunders broken before they maybe should have. The casting …it’s amazing how far manufacturing has come, or probably more accurately it is ‘amazing’ to me, how quickly my life has flown by. Those old trucks look remind me of black and white TV footage.

There was a sleekness or roundness to some of the earlier ventures that just looked a little better than they do now. Even weighted for nostalgia. Look at any Phil Shao footage, peak Pupecki, their trucks look great (I’m guessing 1993 -94)

I am a big venture fan so I like how the trucks look, in general.

You're not wrong, i run a skate volunteer group and we're always collecting old parts to piece together boards for kids who need them and I was recently donated some super old 6 hole ventures and a set of earlier thunders and they looked like fucking walmart trucks.

So much so that i reached out to my older buddy and was like "are these legit? or just some weird knockoffs?" he replied "theyre def real, trucks just used to suck"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 20, 2022, 08:01:38 AM
Everything used to suck/was rad.
It gives me more appreciation for the people that were doing wild shit back then. I mean Natas was out there doing Ollies on the neighborhood of 40 inches (I’m just guessing here, but I have a wisp of a memory where he won some high ollie contest in maybe Hawaii? Maybe it was only 36”…) the point I’m struggling to make is that the gear was very different, and I would have assumed that fear improvements would have lead to similar increases like say golf long drives, or bicycle too speeds.
Maybe they have. I’m all over the place here
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: brownjenkin on December 20, 2022, 08:35:11 AM
Everything used to suck/was rad.

I rode nothing but Venture in the 90s and early 2000s. I still remember habitually spinning my wheels after landing primo to make sure my axle hadn't slipped, then giving it the old tap on the curb if it had.

To this day I don't like the thought of my axles sticking out even 1/16" and I think it stems from wanting to protect my axles with the deck.

I used to love that narrow truck with a beefy wheel look. There is a photo of Phil doing a 5-0 on a rail above a quarter in this chrome ball post that is exactly how I wanted my setup to look.

https://chromeballincident.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-gnarler.html
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on December 20, 2022, 10:24:06 AM
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Everything used to suck/was rad.
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I rode nothing but Venture in the 90s and early 2000s. I still remember habitually spinning my wheels after landing primo to make sure my axle hadn't slipped, then giving it the old tap on the curb if it had.

To this day I don't like the thought of my axles sticking out even 1/16" and I think it stems from wanting to protect my axles with the deck.

I used to love that narrow truck with a beefy wheel look. There is a photo of Phil doing a 5-0 on a rail above a quarter in this chrome ball post that is exactly how I wanted my setup to look.

https://chromeballincident.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-gnarler.html

Goddamn
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o_h2uleBkN8/U-7RorSDjNI/AAAAAAAAcQE/LAKWV4qRg4A/s1600/philshao50chrome.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 20, 2022, 02:13:29 PM
Thanks for posting that cbi. I remember that article…


Phil’s style was always dope. I was in general much more likely to be hyped on footage from someone in the rhythm video, or menace or something like that, but those Shao pics always seemed to stand out.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on December 20, 2022, 03:58:35 PM
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I rode nothing but Venture in the 90s and early 2000s. I still remember habitually spinning my wheels after landing primo to make sure my axle hadn't slipped, then giving it the old tap on the curb if it had.

To this day I don't like the thought of my axles sticking out even 1/16" and I think it stems from wanting to protect my axles with the deck.

I used to love that narrow truck with a beefy wheel look. There is a photo of Phil doing a 5-0 on a rail above a quarter in this chrome ball post that is exactly how I wanted my setup to look.

https://chromeballincident.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-gnarler.html
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Goddamn
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-o_h2uleBkN8/U-7RorSDjNI/AAAAAAAAcQE/LAKWV4qRg4A/s1600/philshao50chrome.jpg)

Those  Emerica Mute he’s wearing look fucking dope too.
BRB gotta hit the madness thread before I go buy a set of Ventures I don’t need (yet).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 20, 2022, 04:49:29 PM
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Everything used to suck/was rad.
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I rode nothing but Venture in the 90s and early 2000s. I still remember habitually spinning my wheels after landing primo to make sure my axle hadn't slipped, then giving it the old tap on the curb if it had.

To this day I don't like the thought of my axles sticking out even 1/16" and I think it stems from wanting to protect my axles with the deck.

I used to love that narrow truck with a beefy wheel look. There is a photo of Phil doing a 5-0 on a rail above a quarter in this chrome ball post that is exactly how I wanted my setup to look.

https://chromeballincident.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-gnarler.html


Seconded for "Thanks for posting that" Chromeball one.


I feel like this pic, which you can get a really close up view of, even more if you zoom in, showing the OG Ventures at the time, green bushings and all, right here - pic from a mag from Jan 1994 so they would have only just come out in 1993 as well, which is pretty cool thinking about the time line.

They look lower, but I never really knew a lot about them back then and only really know from what I have now.


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iSnhpcXvZ5E/U-7OawvbQfI/AAAAAAAAcPM/SJcCe-A_WPw/s1600/shaoslapcoverchrome.jpg


(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iSnhpcXvZ5E/U-7OawvbQfI/AAAAAAAAcPM/SJcCe-A_WPw/s1600/shaoslapcoverchrome.jpg)



Copied close up too:


(https://i.ibb.co/Nj7x1BY/Venture-1993.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9TGnw5Y)


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 20, 2022, 07:46:43 PM
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Everything used to suck/was rad.
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I rode nothing but Venture in the 90s and early 2000s. I still remember habitually spinning my wheels after landing primo to make sure my axle hadn't slipped, then giving it the old tap on the curb if it had.

To this day I don't like the thought of my axles sticking out even 1/16" and I think it stems from wanting to protect my axles with the deck.

I used to love that narrow truck with a beefy wheel look. There is a photo of Phil doing a 5-0 on a rail above a quarter in this chrome ball post that is exactly how I wanted my setup to look.

https://chromeballincident.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-gnarler.html
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Seconded for "Thanks for posting that" Chromeball one.


I feel like this pic, which you can get a really close up view of, even more if you zoom in, showing the OG Ventures at the time, green bushings and all, right here - pic from a mag from Jan 1994 so they would have only just come out in 1993 as well, which is pretty cool thinking about the time line.

They look lower, but I never really knew a lot about them back then and only really know from what I have now.


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iSnhpcXvZ5E/U-7OawvbQfI/AAAAAAAAcPM/SJcCe-A_WPw/s1600/shaoslapcoverchrome.jpg


(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iSnhpcXvZ5E/U-7OawvbQfI/AAAAAAAAcPM/SJcCe-A_WPw/s1600/shaoslapcoverchrome.jpg)



Copied close up too:


(https://i.ibb.co/Nj7x1BY/Venture-1993.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9TGnw5Y)

I also zoomed on that. Do kinda look like lo’s, 8’s, which would be sick.


I forgot to highlight the comment about tapping the axles, and hand spinning the wheels in between tries. Great callout. Some of it was practical, and at least on my part, sadly, some of it was performative…(the whole world is a stage for a young narcissist at a skatepark, ‘subtly’ trying to insinuate that there might be some reason, other than lack of skill, for missing that El Niño flip, over the hip).

Back to Shao’s greatness. This shit is like 30 years old and rad. Maybe that’s due to my old guy perspective, but …that was just a really good era.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on December 21, 2022, 07:48:42 AM


I also zoomed on that. Do kinda look like lo’s, 8’s, which would be sick.


I forgot to highlight the comment about tapping the axles, and hand spinning the wheels in between tries. Great callout. Some of it was practical, and at least on my part, sadly, some of it was performative…(the whole world is a stage for a young narcissist at a skatepark, ‘subtly’ trying to insinuate that there might be some reason, other than lack of skill, for missing that El Niño flip, over the hip).

Back to Shao’s greatness. This shit is like 30 years old and rad. Maybe that’s due to my old guy perspective, but …that was just a really good era.

lol gnar'd
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on December 21, 2022, 09:50:36 PM
I’ve bought about 5 pair of ventures in the past two years. some I haven’t even set up, because it seems like all of them (except the titanium ones) were rusted! I just got the new ted barrow v cast hollow ones, same thing! one truck axel has an orange ish hue to it all the way thorough. am I tripping?! anyone else have this problem with venture or any other truck?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on December 21, 2022, 10:24:57 PM
if anyone is interested
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUlCl2a4zuw
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 21, 2022, 10:58:40 PM
I’ve bought about 5 pair of ventures in the past two years. some I haven’t even set up, because it seems like all of them (except the titanium ones) were rusted! I just got the new tee barrow vacation hollow ones, same thing! one truck axel has an orange ish hue to it all the way thorough. am I tripping?! anyone else have this problem with venture or any other truck?


Funny you should mention this, as this was my last post, re rusted axles.


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I bought some 66 af1's and the bearings wouldn't fit on the axle at first. Like, it went right on and past all the threads then stopped short and stuck at the smooth part of the axle. Dude at the shop said "oh this happens all the time" and banged em on. I have never seen anything like that before, however I don't really buy new trucks for years at a time. Anyone else ever had an axle that seemed like mm too thick until you beat it into submission?
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The only time I have seen that is when some axles (usually on older stock but not always) have had a little rust or other build up that needs cleaning off, either with grip tape offcuts or steel wool, or sometimes even just a quick spray of WD40 onto a cloth and then on each axle area.

Didn't have any issues with most bearings I know when I have assembled Ace trucks, but I am curious what bearings you were using, whether new or used, or any other info - just cause I am too curious for my own good sometimes.


So over the years I have seen quite a few, more often than not just a cloth with WD40 was all that was needed to make them look and feel like new, but some needed a bit more work.

Guessing if you got them from a walk in shop, you could take them back and ask them about it, but if you are more an online / hooked up / shop guy or other, then it is not so easy to ask questions about it, apart from putting in something to DLX with pics, more than anything just to let them know.

Some environments aren't the best, eg shops with no air con or rainy weather and a lot of humidity, or being handled too much or just sitting in a cabinet for a long time, but that doesn't explain some brand new ones, although the axles could be sitting somewhere before being cast that attracted moisture or something.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on December 22, 2022, 07:01:00 AM
Alot of this happens at the distro. Trucks sit in open bags in open boxes in mostly coastal warehouses that aren’t temperature controlled. Most of the time during warm and mild weather the big roll-up doors sit open to allow air flow for the warehouse workers. Perfect environment for rust.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: layzieyez on December 22, 2022, 07:20:52 AM
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I rode nothing but Venture in the 90s and early 2000s. I still remember habitually spinning my wheels after landing primo to make sure my axle hadn't slipped, then giving it the old tap on the curb if it had.

To this day I don't like the thought of my axles sticking out even 1/16" and I think it stems from wanting to protect my axles with the deck.

I used to love that narrow truck with a beefy wheel look. There is a photo of Phil doing a 5-0 on a rail above a quarter in this chrome ball post that is exactly how I wanted my setup to look.

https://chromeballincident.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-gnarler.html
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Seconded for "Thanks for posting that" Chromeball one.


I feel like this pic, which you can get a really close up view of, even more if you zoom in, showing the OG Ventures at the time, green bushings and all, right here - pic from a mag from Jan 1994 so they would have only just come out in 1993 as well, which is pretty cool thinking about the time line.

They look lower, but I never really knew a lot about them back then and only really know from what I have now.


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iSnhpcXvZ5E/U-7OawvbQfI/AAAAAAAAcPM/SJcCe-A_WPw/s1600/shaoslapcoverchrome.jpg


(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iSnhpcXvZ5E/U-7OawvbQfI/AAAAAAAAcPM/SJcCe-A_WPw/s1600/shaoslapcoverchrome.jpg)



Copied close up too:


(https://i.ibb.co/Nj7x1BY/Venture-1993.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9TGnw5Y)
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I also zoomed on that. Do kinda look like lo’s, 8’s, which would be sick.


I forgot to highlight the comment about tapping the axles, and hand spinning the wheels in between tries. Great callout. Some of it was practical, and at least on my part, sadly, some of it was performative…(the whole world is a stage for a young narcissist at a skatepark, ‘subtly’ trying to insinuate that there might be some reason, other than lack of skill, for missing that El Niño flip, over the hip).

Back to Shao’s greatness. This shit is like 30 years old and rad. Maybe that’s due to my old guy perspective, but …that was just a really good era.
They look like the feather lights which were standard. I got axle slip on my ventures all the time back then from landing primo after trying flip my board high over something or down stairs. It was a hassle but those trucks were the best for tech at the time.

I couldn’t deal with the weight of Indy’s until I set up a monster sized “East Coast” board because Fred Gall.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 22, 2022, 01:13:50 PM
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I rode nothing but Venture in the 90s and early 2000s. I still remember habitually spinning my wheels after landing primo to make sure my axle hadn't slipped, then giving it the old tap on the curb if it had.

To this day I don't like the thought of my axles sticking out even 1/16" and I think it stems from wanting to protect my axles with the deck.

I used to love that narrow truck with a beefy wheel look. There is a photo of Phil doing a 5-0 on a rail above a quarter in this chrome ball post that is exactly how I wanted my setup to look.

https://chromeballincident.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-gnarler.html
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Seconded for "Thanks for posting that" Chromeball one.


I feel like this pic, which you can get a really close up view of, even more if you zoom in, showing the OG Ventures at the time, green bushings and all, right here - pic from a mag from Jan 1994 so they would have only just come out in 1993 as well, which is pretty cool thinking about the time line.

They look lower, but I never really knew a lot about them back then and only really know from what I have now.


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iSnhpcXvZ5E/U-7OawvbQfI/AAAAAAAAcPM/SJcCe-A_WPw/s1600/shaoslapcoverchrome.jpg


(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iSnhpcXvZ5E/U-7OawvbQfI/AAAAAAAAcPM/SJcCe-A_WPw/s1600/shaoslapcoverchrome.jpg)



Copied close up too:


(https://i.ibb.co/Nj7x1BY/Venture-1993.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9TGnw5Y)
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I also zoomed on that. Do kinda look like lo’s, 8’s, which would be sick.


I forgot to highlight the comment about tapping the axles, and hand spinning the wheels in between tries. Great callout. Some of it was practical, and at least on my part, sadly, some of it was performative…(the whole world is a stage for a young narcissist at a skatepark, ‘subtly’ trying to insinuate that there might be some reason, other than lack of skill, for missing that El Niño flip, over the hip).

Back to Shao’s greatness. This shit is like 30 years old and rad. Maybe that’s due to my old guy perspective, but …that was just a really good era.
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They look like the feather lights which were standard. I got axle slip on my ventures all the time back then from landing primo after trying flip my board high over something or down stairs. It was a hassle but those trucks were the best for tech at the time.

I couldn’t deal with the weight of Indy’s until I set up a monster sized “East Coast” board because Fred Gall.

The big wheels made the Indy’s more manageable somehow. Indys were so heavy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: layzieyez on December 23, 2022, 08:02:25 AM
It’s funny how riding my East Coast board felt right after riding a 7.5” board forever.

Also funny is my 8” FA board with venture hi’s is one of the easiest boards to slappy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on December 23, 2022, 01:47:57 PM
Loving my venture low 5.2s on the 8.25 chocolate gO27 shape. The tail is so easy to pop.
I’ve searched around, but when was the last venture redesign for the lows and regulars? Is there any info on the venture stages available?  These ventures must be redesigned recently, right?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 23, 2022, 05:55:18 PM
Loving my venture low 5.2s on the 8.25 chocolate gO27 shape. The tail is so easy to pop.
I’ve searched around, but when was the last venture redesign for the lows and regulars? Is there any info on the venture stages available?  These ventures must be redesigned recently, right?


When DLX took over distribution of Venture from 2011 when Street Corner Dist closed, there were changes, as said others, so this is maybe the last time that anything happened / changed in their manufacturing with regard to the truck stages, variations, etc.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on December 23, 2022, 07:05:00 PM
Thanks for the info. The hangers must have been redone sometime in the past couple of years because these:
https://laborskateshop.com/products/venture-all-polished-trucks?variant=39516978643046&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_campaign=gs-2022-06-15&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwJWdBhCYARIsAJc4idBq8CsyeZ0UPRcLT8sqYRUvsnFsFPmlTEsXkQwpFLOJza7n0WhWD0gaAt_SEALw_wcB

Look way different than the new ones:
https://www.gardenma.com/copy-of-venture-low-52-polished-truck-one-truck-79.html
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 23, 2022, 11:40:15 PM
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Is it not just the angle of the picture - looking at the yoke around the hanger area more than anything?

Also have you seen them in person or just pics?


I haven't really paid that much attention to Venture, apart from having some very much older ones and some moderately new ones, but I will go have a look at a set on the six hole baseplates, then another set that were from around 2015 compared to the latest ones I just got for someone.

Got me keen to see if I can see any differences now too.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on December 24, 2022, 04:32:22 AM
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Is it not just the angle of the picture - looking at the yoke around the hanger area more than anything?

Also have you seen them in person or just pics?


I haven't really paid that much attention to Venture, apart from having some very much older ones and some moderately new ones, but I will go have a look at a set on the six hole baseplates, then another set that were from around 2015 compared to the latest ones I just got for someone.

Got me keen to see if I can see any differences now too.
The “plane” where the hanger turns into the nub that goes into the pivot cup is pinched on what I perceive to be the new ones. I think they are new because the lasers have the pinch. Now I’m seeing slight differences in the yolk as well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lepanto on December 24, 2022, 04:37:01 AM
Best Venture 5.6 trucks? chose one of the list bellow:

VENTURE V-HOLLOW LIGHTS ALL POLISHED HIGH 5.6
VENTURE V-LIGHTS ALL POLISHED HIGH 5.6"
VENTURE ALL POLISHED HIGH 5.6
VENTURE TEAM THROW HIGH 5.6"
VENTURE V-CAST HOLLOW KADER PRO 5.6"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on December 24, 2022, 06:54:14 AM
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Is it not just the angle of the picture - looking at the yoke around the hanger area more than anything?

Also have you seen them in person or just pics?


I haven't really paid that much attention to Venture, apart from having some very much older ones and some moderately new ones, but I will go have a look at a set on the six hole baseplates, then another set that were from around 2015 compared to the latest ones I just got for someone.

Got me keen to see if I can see any differences now too.
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The “plane” where the hanger turns into the nub that goes into the pivot cup is pinched on what I perceive to be the new ones. I think they are new because the lasers have the pinch. Now I’m seeing slight differences in the yolk as well.

happy to be wrong, but i think you're getting worked by lighting
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on December 24, 2022, 07:10:42 AM
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Is it not just the angle of the picture - looking at the yoke around the hanger area more than anything?

Also have you seen them in person or just pics?


I haven't really paid that much attention to Venture, apart from having some very much older ones and some moderately new ones, but I will go have a look at a set on the six hole baseplates, then another set that were from around 2015 compared to the latest ones I just got for someone.

Got me keen to see if I can see any differences now too.
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The “plane” where the hanger turns into the nub that goes into the pivot cup is pinched on what I perceive to be the new ones. I think they are new because the lasers have the pinch. Now I’m seeing slight differences in the yolk as well.
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happy to be wrong, but i think you're getting worked by lighting
It won’t be the first time I got worked by lighting lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YMCMB on December 24, 2022, 08:16:55 AM
Best Venture 5.6 trucks? chose one of the list bellow:

VENTURE V-HOLLOW LIGHTS ALL POLISHED HIGH 5.6
VENTURE V-LIGHTS ALL POLISHED HIGH 5.6"
VENTURE ALL POLISHED HIGH 5.6
VENTURE TEAM THROW HIGH 5.6"
VENTURE V-CAST HOLLOW KADER PRO 5.6"
V-Cast
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on December 24, 2022, 08:41:03 AM
Thanks for the info. The hangers must have been redone sometime in the past couple of years because these:
https://laborskateshop.com/products/venture-all-polished-trucks?variant=39516978643046&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_campaign=gs-2022-06-15&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwJWdBhCYARIsAJc4idBq8CsyeZ0UPRcLT8sqYRUvsnFsFPmlTEsXkQwpFLOJza7n0WhWD0gaAt_SEALw_wcB

Look way different than the new ones:
https://www.gardenma.com/copy-of-venture-low-52-polished-truck-one-truck-79.html

All the new sets I’ve gotten look more like the Labor pic than the Garden pic. Very sharp casting, shiny finish, little texture (not as smooth as an AF1, though).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: big_kev_215 on December 25, 2022, 04:29:00 AM
Anyone make a recent Ace to Venture jump?  Been skating Ace 44s for a little while and treated myself to some 5.8s for Christmas.  Haven’t skated Ventures in a couple years but I’m looking forward to switching it up.  Definitely do a lot more slappies than last time I skated Ventures so I expect it to be an adjustment. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on December 25, 2022, 06:07:49 AM
Anyone make a recent Ace to Venture jump?  Been skating Ace 44s for a little while and treated myself to some 5.8s for Christmas.  Haven’t skated Ventures in a couple years but I’m looking forward to switching it up.  Definitely do a lot more slappies than last time I skated Ventures so I expect it to be an adjustment.

i switched from aces to ventures in march. first few sessions on the same deck were weird as fuck since aces and ventures are pretty much opposites, but i kept forcing it and got used to them. the turn was obviously a lot different especially since i skate very loose trucks but flip tricks were the hardest to get used to. i would get lots of ghost pop and couldn’t flick well but when i figured that out my flip tricks got better than before, much more pop. i had 44 classics, went to 5.8 standards
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on December 25, 2022, 07:07:45 AM
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Thanks for the info. The hangers must have been redone sometime in the past couple of years because these:
https://laborskateshop.com/products/venture-all-polished-trucks?variant=39516978643046&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&utm_campaign=gs-2022-06-15&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gclid=Cj0KCQiAwJWdBhCYARIsAJc4idBq8CsyeZ0UPRcLT8sqYRUvsnFsFPmlTEsXkQwpFLOJza7n0WhWD0gaAt_SEALw_wcB

Look way different than the new ones:
https://www.gardenma.com/copy-of-venture-low-52-polished-truck-one-truck-79.html
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All the new sets I’ve gotten look more like the Labor pic than the Garden pic. Very sharp casting, shiny finish, little texture (not as smooth as an AF1, though).

On 2nd link I’m pretty sure the picture is from the lows (based on the kingpin clearance which seems not that big). Quite often the stores just use any stock photo to represent the product but it’s not accurate. Like using an Indy 139 pic to represent all sizes from 129s to 169s…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FGO925 on December 27, 2022, 01:45:56 PM
What board size for 5.2? Would 8.1 be too big?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on December 27, 2022, 02:00:09 PM
What board size for 5.2? Would 8.1 be too big?

No perfect

I ride 8.125
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on December 27, 2022, 02:00:45 PM
What board size for 5.2? Would 8.1 be too big?

nope. you can run 5.2 on 7.75 - 8.25 comfortably, depending on your tastes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: swellbowed on December 27, 2022, 02:01:55 PM
What board size for 5.2? Would 8.1 be too big?
8.0 - 8.1" would be good for 5.2
If you want to go up to 8.25" or wider - might want to consider 5.6's
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on December 27, 2022, 03:12:57 PM
If I had 5.2’s I’d stock up on 8.125’s….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 27, 2022, 03:41:44 PM
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Best Venture 5.6 trucks? chose one of the list bellow:

VENTURE V-HOLLOW LIGHTS ALL POLISHED HIGH 5.6
VENTURE V-LIGHTS ALL POLISHED HIGH 5.6"
VENTURE ALL POLISHED HIGH 5.6
VENTURE TEAM THROW HIGH 5.6"
VENTURE V-CAST HOLLOW KADER PRO 5.6"
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V-Cast

I'm going to vote the all polished high.
I wanted to like hollow trucks but from G&S to v lite this past year it's been negative.

Only kingpins should be hollow in my opinion.

Also I've found I prefer the 5.8 a little more than the 5.6
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on December 27, 2022, 06:52:02 PM
didn't bug me a bit and coming from thunder, I wanted to keep things light and low, so V-hollow lights for me......
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on January 01, 2023, 10:54:28 AM
Anyone know the weight of the 5.8 kader /Ted cast hollows ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on January 01, 2023, 03:15:14 PM
Anyone know the weight of the 5.8 kader /Ted cast hollows ?

I used google like a real man. 345 g.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GT on January 03, 2023, 11:12:58 PM
Has anyone had experience  changing the kingpin on cast baseplate for low trucks?
If so which kingpin have you used? I have a set of replacement hollows which supposedly are for venture...

I know venture now are makin hollow cast hi and maybe it's better to wait for then to make lo as well .
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 04, 2023, 12:18:15 AM
Has anyone had experience  changing the kingpin on cast baseplate for low trucks?
If so which kingpin have you used? I have a set of replacement hollows which supposedly are for venture...

I know venture now are makin hollow cast hi and maybe it's better to wait for then to make lo as well .
afaik the low and the highs share the same kingpin
if you are doing an aftermarket kingpin, go krux or kreeper
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 04, 2023, 05:12:30 PM
I know people have done it, but I had issues hitting out my cast thunder kb's......ultimately did it, but out of two sets, I got got one set to work....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 04, 2023, 06:28:43 PM
Has anyone had experience  changing the kingpin on cast baseplate for low trucks?
If so which kingpin have you used? I have a set of replacement hollows which supposedly are for venture...

I know venture now are makin hollow cast hi and maybe it's better to wait for then to make lo as well .


If there is nothing wrong with the kingpins on those baseplates but you want it lower, an angle grinder is better to take it down a little bit (or how ever much you need to really) than trying to remove a perfectly good kingpin and put in a shorter one.

Guess it depends on what tools you have at hand or how keen you are to try it, but I did it with a lot of trial and error, turned out very little error and works well, but I didn't go too hard on them and just did a bit at a time.


Hollow kingpins vs regular kingpins are a different thing though, but the weight saved is minimal for the effort of changing over perfectly good kingpins with the possibility of destroying a baseplate or not getting the new kingpin in successfully too.

Just one view of having to fix a lot of trucks over the years, some of which people brought in because they messed something up in the change over process.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on January 04, 2023, 07:34:50 PM
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Has anyone had experience  changing the kingpin on cast baseplate for low trucks?
If so which kingpin have you used? I have a set of replacement hollows which supposedly are for venture...

I know venture now are makin hollow cast hi and maybe it's better to wait for then to make lo as well .
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If there is nothing wrong with the kingpins on those baseplates but you want it lower, an angle grinder is better to take it down a little bit (or how ever much you need to really) than trying to remove a perfectly good kingpin and put in a shorter one.

Guess it depends on what tools you have at hand or how keen you are to try it, but I did it with a lot of trial and error, turned out very little error and works well, but I didn't go too hard on them and just did a bit at a time.


Hollow kingpins vs regular kingpins are a different thing though, but the weight saved is minimal for the effort of changing over perfectly good kingpins with the possibility of destroying a baseplate or not getting the new kingpin in successfully too.

Just one view of having to fix a lot of trucks over the years, some of which people brought in because they messed something up in the change over process.

Underrated advice. Total headache to change and Totally not worth it for miniscule weight change. I don’t understand why the cast are so chunky in the middle when they used to have a decent hole and now it’s just a thin opening (Vintage casts were much lighter, these current are bricks!!). Venture should just tidy that up rather than this hollow kingpin casts, imo.

@Mbrimson88 probably has an old set of Venture feather lights, 6 hole venture plates, from the 90s, and the hollowed out plate holes on the sides and top are bigger and more weight saving than now (the current cast plates probably weight more than Indy standard plates…..maybe? Just guessing). That’s the biggest problem with cast venture for me, the weight. Thunders are still super light even in the cast, but Ventures are probably heavier than they were 20+yrs ago. And hollowed kingpin ain’t gonna fix that, it’s cool, but let’s be honest, it’s just a gimmick. Not hating though, definitely skate what you’re stoked on.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 04, 2023, 10:31:39 PM
I agree with the grind down or just leave it....I meant to switch out my forged for cast and drop in a krux kingpin but never got around to it, the clearance is really good with Ventures and they take a while to grind down.  I'd be so pissed if I fucked it up.....If anything I'd recommend keeping an eye on friends who skate them and put dibs on a set when they wear down or find an old set on craigslist. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GT on January 04, 2023, 11:15:40 PM
Thank you all for the replies!!

I was just thinking of making a hollow KP for lo ventures. It is not a must at all. Might experiment with hollow axles on regular cast plate.

I do ha e a set of 6 hole ventures but the are 5.0 and I would like to try 5 2 lows on 7.75-8.2.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 04, 2023, 11:35:11 PM
Thank you all for the replies!!

I was just thinking of making a hollow KP for lo ventures. It is not a must at all. Might experiment with hollow axles on regular cast plate.

I do ha e a set of 6 hole ventures but the are 5.0 and I would like to try 5 2 lows on 7.75-8.2.


Do they have the old hex (easily removable) kingpin or the new button head pushed in with a machine sort?

The old six hole baseplate Ventures I have were easy to switch out the kingpin, so you could just put in an inverted kingpin too and keep using those baseplates with other hangers if you wanted to - at least the different types I had were interchangeable between normal and low hangers, as the baseplates were all the same.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on January 06, 2023, 03:36:38 AM
Any one that is curious. Ted barrow  5.8 casts hollows come around 356-357g. I would assume kaders are the same.

(https://i.ibb.co/fnnzdgn/F67-ABFEC-F6-CB-4-F3-A-8-B15-23-DC7-CCDA64-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fnnzdgn)


Real question to the venture homies. Thunder bushings usually mush out on me
So I usually put Indy 92a blues in. Should I just skip the venture mush and throw Indy blues in or will they not fit in venture? Or do stock venture bushings somehow work better than stock thunders?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 06, 2023, 06:44:46 AM
Or do stock venture bushings somehow work better than stock thunders?

I've had new Thunders that had their bushing crumble after 1 session. The stock ones on my Ventures are cracked in multiple places but are still holding up.

Stock gets my vote, they get better as they break in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on January 06, 2023, 06:50:29 AM
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Or do stock venture bushings somehow work better than stock thunders?
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I've had new Thunders that had their bushing crumble after 1 session. The stock ones on my Ventures are cracked in multiple places but are still holding up.

Stock gets my vote, they get better as they break in.

Awesome. Thank you! Was hoping to skate after work but looks like it’s tomorrow morning now. I forgot my skate shoes at home. :(
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on January 06, 2023, 01:29:41 PM
Any one that is curious. Ted barrow  5.8 casts hollows come around 356-357g. I would assume kaders are the same.

(https://i.ibb.co/fnnzdgn/F67-ABFEC-F6-CB-4-F3-A-8-B15-23-DC7-CCDA64-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fnnzdgn)


Real question to the venture homies. Thunder bushings usually mush out on me
So I usually put Indy 92a blues in. Should I just skip the venture mush and throw Indy blues in or will they not fit in venture? Or do stock venture bushings somehow work better than stock thunders?

The blues fit but just run the venture stocks. They'll mush eventually probably, but will be very good for a while. Plus those ones are green!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on January 07, 2023, 01:33:04 AM
Any one that is curious. Ted barrow  5.8 casts hollows come around 356-357g. I would assume kaders are the same.

(https://i.ibb.co/fnnzdgn/F67-ABFEC-F6-CB-4-F3-A-8-B15-23-DC7-CCDA64-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fnnzdgn)

Real question to the venture homies. Thunder bushings usually mush out on me
So I usually put Indy 92a blues in. Should I just skip the venture mush and throw Indy blues in or will they not fit in venture? Or do stock venture bushings somehow work better than stock thunders?

Indy bushings used to be the exact same size as Venture bushings. This is some years back. I doubt anything changed since then.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 07, 2023, 06:37:48 AM
I got stuck to a curb the other day. I hadn't seen that since I was little and riding gullwing.
 I was skating the curb that I made at the Bewitched statue. (Plz come skate with me there if you come out pals) I ollied on and bang my board disappeared from underneath my feet. I looked back and my new dragon wheels was biting the curb.

Turns out that lots of curbs are exactly the same size as the 5.8. with the skinny wheel. My spits would not have locked on to both sides.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on January 07, 2023, 05:39:15 PM
Got to skate the cast v hollows today and I think I may be a venture guy. Slides felt good. Grinded a little slower than an Indy but my Indy’s are pretty seasoned so that may be why.  Pinch better than an Indy. Turn felt fine to me. Skated some tranny on them at the diy and the extended wheelbase I think helped me have a more comfortable wider stance  on some of the tranny. Certain tricks felt better (impossible) my ankle is still kinda to fucked up to flick the board. But I threw one shitty kick flip. Only complaint is I’m ghost popping nollies like crazy and wasn’t on Indy cast. Which is weird cause somehow in my head the extension on wb on venture but lower and the height of an Indy shortening wb somehow even each other out so they should feel close. Idk. I’m also skating a hockey but Indy’s my nollies was nicely popped. But idc. I’m into them. Fingers crossed I found my truck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 07, 2023, 07:35:11 PM
welcome to the club
venture cured my madness…once you settle in, you cant go back
you literally cant go looking for a venture in any other truck
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 07, 2023, 11:03:23 PM
If ventures lengthen the wheelbase, do they not shorten the tail and nose? 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on January 07, 2023, 11:15:33 PM
If ventures lengthen the wheelbase, do they not shorten the tail and nose?

yup..and the degree of angle also increase..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FUBAR on January 09, 2023, 06:13:27 PM
As far as Indy bushings in Ventures…I have a set of 5.8 Kaders and a set of 6.1s both with 94a Indy bushings (not conical) and they are money.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on January 09, 2023, 07:30:30 PM
Following up:  30 years of skating ventures now on Thunder Ti 148. 

I’m actually stoked on the switch.  I’m surprised how light the set up is.  Sometimes it feels like I’m floating tricks.  I like it.   Took me two weeks to get used to them.  They grind really well.  The downside is still on slides. I ride 54mm dragons right now and they stick to the ledges.  Not hitting baseplate but wheels offset instead.  Have to get used to that.

At first the lightness did not helped. Missed a lot of tricks on the pop.  Turn is better IMHO
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on January 09, 2023, 07:38:44 PM
Just snagged a pair of 5.2 Hi Throws for my next set up.
I’m very curious to see how they feel after skating thunders for the past few years…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 09, 2023, 08:24:14 PM
venture x venue
available in 5.0-6.1

(https://i.ibb.co/VNkpm2s/52-C59-EA2-F787-4522-B5-F6-35-ADCB7-E6715.jpg) (https://ibb.co/th1PX89)
(https://i.ibb.co/yRqQ7yg/0-B3-FF25-B-FD51-44-FD-BECC-43-F1-E69-EAB59.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sPqVzws)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 09, 2023, 09:17:13 PM
Just snagged a pair of 5.2 Hi Throws for my next set up.
I’m very curious to see how they feel after skating thunders for the past few years…

I think you'll like them, no wheel bite, the pop will feel way different.  A bit more whiff, but a bit more power too...You can afford to skate a venture a lot looser which I liked. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 144p on January 09, 2023, 09:23:59 PM
To the ones using Indy bushings in ventures, the diameter is slightly bigger which causes the bushings to pop out of the yoke of the hanger. Also the indy bottom bushing is slightly taller than the stock venture so it makes the hanger sit slightly off.
The super Cush green 94a is a great option if you can find them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 09, 2023, 09:37:34 PM
I don't weigh anything so I actually really liked conicals/bones.  Kinda hard to recommend them but they worked well for me......
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MONS 56K on January 10, 2023, 11:38:08 PM
Anybody redrill their baseplates?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 11, 2023, 01:39:15 AM
Anybody redrill their baseplates?


Like Koston?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on January 11, 2023, 06:28:50 AM
I don't weigh anything so I actually really liked conicals/bones.  Kinda hard to recommend them but they worked well for me......

Bones Meds really changed my view on ventures... Went from being on the fence to really love them now. But I feel like it's more the flat washer doing the magic than the bushings themselves.

I weight 145lbs/65kg for reference ahah
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 11, 2023, 06:51:28 AM
I agree and have done the same…a lot of people seem to have problems with bones with bones which is why it’s hard to tell everyone to ride them….I had mediums in mine with a riptide pivot cup and loved skating them looser…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on January 11, 2023, 08:00:24 AM
i ran bones mediums when i first hopped on the Venture train and they make the trucks more twitchy. not like Thunder twitchy, but that's the best way i can explain it. definitely gives you more turning freedom than stock and works great if you like bones bushings. i just think bones bushings give off such a specific and unique feel that takes away the fun/purpose from trying different truck geometries.

i typically run stock with a top flat washer and that feels the most natural way to get more turn out of ventures and still maintain that venture stability. Supercush are good aftermarket replacement bushings and Indy barrel bushings work, too (the top is slightly taller than stock).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 11, 2023, 08:24:33 AM
Got to skate the cast v hollows today and I think I may be a venture guy. Slides felt good. Grinded a little slower than an Indy but my Indy’s are pretty seasoned so that may be why.  Pinch better than an Indy. Turn felt fine to me. Skated some tranny on them at the diy and the extended wheelbase I think helped me have a more comfortable wider stance  on some of the tranny. Certain tricks felt better (impossible) my ankle is still kinda to fucked up to flick the board. But I threw one shitty kick flip. Only complaint is I’m ghost popping nollies like crazy and wasn’t on Indy cast. Which is weird cause somehow in my head the extension on wb on venture but lower and the height of an Indy shortening wb somehow even each other out so they should feel close. Idk. I’m also skating a hockey but Indy’s my nollies was nicely popped. But idc. I’m into them. Fingers crossed I found my truck.

Same. My nollie suffered for a little bit. Now I just pop closer to the truck and I connect proper
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 11, 2023, 09:25:18 AM
Thank y’all for keeping this thread running for 3+ years. Love reading everyone’s experiences since I started this bad boy.


Just scooped up the 5.2 Ted barrow v cast hollows and the 5.6 kader v cast hollows. I run a 5.2 on 8.1, and 5.6 on a 8.25. Got both on sale for the same price as a single pair of titaniums. Been on 5.6 titanium with cast plate for 2+ years and pretty close to axle. So I’m very excited to skate a “different” truck even though they share the same characteristics as what I have now minus being titanium. I just love ted and kader so it was a no brainer to get those trucks. Keeping the green bushings in the Barrows and I’m swapping out the blacks in the Kaders for the green bushing loose conversion kit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on January 11, 2023, 09:45:32 AM
Thank y’all for keeping this thread running for 3+ years. Love reading everyone’s experiences since I started this bad boy.


Just scooped up the 5.2 Ted barrow v cast hollows and the 5.6 kader v cast hollows. I run a 5.2 on 8.1, and 5.6 on a 8.25. Got both on sale for the same price as a single pair of titaniums. Been on 5.6 titanium with cast plate for 2+ years and pretty close to axle. So I’m very excited to skate a “different” truck even though they share the same characteristics as what I have now minus being titanium. I just love ted and kader so it was a no brainer to get those trucks. Keeping the green bushings in the Barrows and I’m swapping out the blacks in the Kaders for the green bushing loose conversion kit.
not that I need new trucks lmao but where did you get the 5.2 Ted for the low? wish there was a polished 5.6 v cast hollow
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: big_kev_215 on January 11, 2023, 06:43:30 PM
Currently skating my first set of Ventures in like two years (as the trucks on my main setup).  Turns worse than I remembered but the grind is better than I remembered.  Got the cast hollows this time.  I keep getting about halfway to axle-ing my trucks before switching it up (theme of last year for me) - I’d like to stick these out till I hit the axle. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 11, 2023, 07:01:18 PM
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Thank y’all for keeping this thread running for 3+ years. Love reading everyone’s experiences since I started this bad boy.


Just scooped up the 5.2 Ted barrow v cast hollows and the 5.6 kader v cast hollows. I run a 5.2 on 8.1, and 5.6 on a 8.25. Got both on sale for the same price as a single pair of titaniums. Been on 5.6 titanium with cast plate for 2+ years and pretty close to axle. So I’m very excited to skate a “different” truck even though they share the same characteristics as what I have now minus being titanium. I just love ted and kader so it was a no brainer to get those trucks. Keeping the green bushings in the Barrows and I’m swapping out the blacks in the Kaders for the green bushing loose conversion kit.
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not that I need new trucks lmao but where did you get the 5.2 Ted for the low? wish there was a polished 5.6 v cast hollow
both were on 303 boards website during their big sale the last few weeks. I’m sure we’ll see some 5.6 v cast hollows in polished soon enough. Maybe spring catalog? I had to get the Barrows because that pooh graphic with his head in the honey bucket is engrained in my childhood. Got the Kaders because I’ve never owned a raw truck only polished
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tom Pearl on January 11, 2023, 07:30:05 PM
i ran bones hard in ventures and the top bushing always blew out within like 2 weeks (im 6'3 and weigh 195 tho) so maybe thats why?


switched to doh doh blacks last march and they're still in perfect condition


i run doh doh's with a flat washer and a reg washer on top and it's perfect imo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 11, 2023, 09:08:15 PM
Anybody redrill their baseplates?


I didn't drill out the Venture baseplates, but I did put two bolts in the two old school holes in a six hole baseplate just to feel the difference and it was massive - that is the same position as drilling them out.

On one hand I can definitely understand why some people would shift one or both trucks in, but I think it also really depends on the board too.  On a longer steeper board it really evened everything out a lot and made it feel way more like something I would ride, but on my usual mellow concave board, it made the kicks way too light feeling.

Definitely fun to experience that though and there would always be a market / option for people who rode Ventures if they wanted a lighter feel or shorter wheelbase on their existing board.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CmG_yTvpr04/

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MONS 56K on January 11, 2023, 09:46:24 PM
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Anybody redrill their baseplates?
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I didn't drill out the Venture baseplates, but I did put two bolts in the two old school holes in a six hole baseplate just to feel the difference and it was massive - that is the same position as drilling them out.

On one hand I can definitely understand why some people would shift one or both trucks in, but I think it also really depends on the board too.  On a longer steeper board it really evened everything out a lot and made it feel way more like something I would ride, but on my usual mellow concave board, it made the kicks way too light feeling.

Definitely fun to experience that though and there would always be a market / option for people who rode Ventures if they wanted a lighter feel or shorter wheelbase on their existing board.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CmG_yTvpr04/

Word thanks Brimmo, been thinking about it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MOE SYZLAK on January 12, 2023, 09:54:25 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/X4QvwDl.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TwisT on January 12, 2023, 04:32:06 PM
Just bought forged v hollows over cast, cause I wanted shiny ones. What’s the difference performance wise?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 12, 2023, 05:13:05 PM
Just bought forged v hollows over cast, cause I wanted shiny ones. What’s the difference performance wise?
obviously the forged are lower trucks but not by much. Talking 1.5 mm lower. And the forged extends your wb slightly more so than the cast. That’s it. It’s the same trucks as far as everything else. I enjoy the forged plates on 14” wb decks, they don’t agree with me on 14.25” and up but some people love them on that setup. Cast has a lil more meat on the bone for nose and tail slides. Again that’s about it. Enjoy that forged life! They are great trucks at the end of the day and you can mix and match venture plates at any time if you don’t like it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 12, 2023, 05:14:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/X4QvwDl.jpg)
king shit. Would gnar if I could
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 12, 2023, 05:21:01 PM
https://www.paradeworld.com/products/venture-hollow-kader-pro-trucks-5658-166-6914388394049/


https://www.paradeworld.com/products/venture-v-cast-hollow-light-ted-barrow-trucks-52h58-166-6935318757441/


New V cast hollows on sale, all sizes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TwisT on January 12, 2023, 05:29:55 PM
https://www.paradeworld.com/products/venture-hollow-kader-pro-trucks-5658-166-6914388394049/


https://www.paradeworld.com/products/venture-v-cast-hollow-light-ted-barrow-trucks-52h58-166-6935318757441/


That’s the 303board sale. If you put them in your cart it’ll say shipped from Colorado.

New V cast hollows on sale, all sizes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 12, 2023, 05:31:34 PM
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https://www.paradeworld.com/products/venture-hollow-kader-pro-trucks-5658-166-6914388394049/


https://www.paradeworld.com/products/venture-v-cast-hollow-light-ted-barrow-trucks-52h58-166-6935318757441/


That’s the 303board sale. If you put them in your cart it’ll say shipped from Colorado.

New V cast hollows on sale, all sizes
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good looks! Someone asked where I got mine a page back but didn’t realize this was the same sale!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 12, 2023, 05:50:41 PM
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Just bought forged v hollows over cast, cause I wanted shiny ones. What’s the difference performance wise?
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obviously the forged are lower trucks but not by much. Talking 1.5 mm lower. And the forged extends your wb slightly more so than the cast. That’s it. It’s the same trucks as far as everything else. I enjoy the forged plates on 14” wb decks, they don’t agree with me on 14.25” and up but some people love them on that setup. Cast has a lil more meat on the bone for nose and tail slides. Again that’s about it. Enjoy that forged life! They are great trucks at the end of the day and you can mix and match venture plates at any time if you don’t like it

You get a lot more rattle and vibrations through the baseplates with forged too, forged pinches a bit better but Venture pinches good regardless. I keep 8.25 and 8.5 hangers around and swap between cast / forged baseplates depending on the WB of the board.

Jus' hang loose blood, you're already on the Venture train.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on January 12, 2023, 11:39:45 PM
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(https://i.imgur.com/X4QvwDl.jpg)
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king shit. Would gnar if I could

Gotchu  ;)
(I also got the same tee)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on January 13, 2023, 09:43:54 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/X4QvwDl.jpg)

I've awaken..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: twic3 on January 13, 2023, 11:32:06 AM
Will ace bushings fit my ventures hi?

I got a pair of the forged hollow and been trying to make them work for me but it really pissed me off how stiff and unresponsive they feel (coming from ace).

I love skating flatground with them but I mainly skate transition, slappys, wallies, and those feel terrible at the moment...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hobochimp on January 13, 2023, 01:00:43 PM
Will ace bushings fit my ventures hi?

I got a pair of the forged hollow and been trying to make them work for me but it really pissed me off how stiff and unresponsive they feel (coming from ace).

I love skating flatground with them but I mainly skate transition, slappys, wallies, and those feel terrible at the moment...

Ace low bushings will fit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on January 13, 2023, 01:07:52 PM
Or get the loose truck kit that venture has.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: swellbowed on January 13, 2023, 01:21:15 PM
Or get the loose truck kit that venture has.
https://upriseskateshop.com/products/loose-trucks-conversation-kit-bushings-green-90-duro?variant=42754140995799

https://kineticskateboarding.com/products/venture-loose-trucks-conversion-kit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 13, 2023, 03:48:18 PM
Will ace bushings fit my ventures hi?

I got a pair of the forged hollow and been trying to make them work for me but it really pissed me off how stiff and unresponsive they feel (coming from ace).

I love skating flatground with them but I mainly skate transition, slappys, wallies, and those feel terrible at the moment...


Some bushing change up may help a bit, but the reality is you are coming from Ace being the "most turny truck" on the market to Venture being the "least turny truck" just in the geometry alone, which no amount of bushing change up is going to fix.

That said, once you get used to how much more pressure you need to put on Ventures to turn, compared to Ace or even Indy (which is what I usually skate) they can still turn relatively well, but the first few sessions on a board with Venture trucks, I was stepping off the board or it was still going relatively straight compared to how either of the boards I have with Ace trucks turn, one with Classics and one with AF1 trucks.

Venture are said to be the most stable of all trucks, mainly because they don't turn half as quickly, but regardless of bushings, do you ride rattling loose trucks or more normal / stock nut flush sort of thing?

Even with the nut down a full thread / turn or two on Ace it will still turn more than Venture ever will.

Getting the low bushing kit (marketed as the loose trucks kit) will only solve your issues if you ride very loose trucks to start with and even then, for a normal person they will be very mushy, so although you might have a little more turn, you might still not like how they turn.

The stock Venture bushings are pretty soft and do allow for a lot of turn, but breaking them in nicely is going to be harder when you come from Ace and the much lighter turn any and all Ace trucks have, regardless of bushings.


That's just my thoughts on the change anyway.

It can be done, but it does take time for you to get used to them, otherwise it might be better to pass them on to someone else and go with what you are used to.


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Either way I would never tell people how to ride their boards - everyone is different, but finding what works for you is the most important thing right now.

The easiest way to feel them out is loosen the nut not quite all the way off and stand on the board (not have a full session on it) or just roll very lightly round as that is about the feel of the loose truck kit bushings.  They are the same bushings, just lower heads so you can get the nut on with a lot more room to move, or tighten them down as needed.

Another temporary solution is taking the metal washers off the bottom just to feel them out.  Again it is not a permanent fix, but some other people I know do this to get bushings more nicely worn in and they will definitely loosen up the feeling of the stock bushings.  You might even like it.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on January 13, 2023, 03:53:55 PM
Yeah the ideal temperature to set up a new set of ventures is 65 Fahrenheit and up. Then you’ll wonder why people complain about Venture trucks not turning unless you really dig into the turn but that’s the geometry of them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on January 13, 2023, 05:04:44 PM
Will ace bushings fit my ventures hi?

I got a pair of the forged hollow and been trying to make them work for me but it really pissed me off how stiff and unresponsive they feel (coming from ace).

I love skating flatground with them but I mainly skate transition, slappys, wallies, and those feel terrible at the moment...

They’re too big but on a related note I’ve been running a cut down Ace top bushing with a flat washer and stock bottoms for a while now and shit is magical.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BL0B on January 13, 2023, 05:35:09 PM
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Will ace bushings fit my ventures hi?

I got a pair of the forged hollow and been trying to make them work for me but it really pissed me off how stiff and unresponsive they feel (coming from ace).

I love skating flatground with them but I mainly skate transition, slappys, wallies, and those feel terrible at the moment...
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They’re too big but on a related note I’ve been running a cut down Ace top bushing with a flat washer and stock bottoms for a while now and shit is magical.


ace low bushings and a flat washer is a great setup. the top was still a little tall but i didn't feel the need to cut it down. everyone's cut bushing i've seen came out really inconsistent and looked pretty terrible.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on January 13, 2023, 07:23:19 PM
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Will ace bushings fit my ventures hi?

I got a pair of the forged hollow and been trying to make them work for me but it really pissed me off how stiff and unresponsive they feel (coming from ace).

I love skating flatground with them but I mainly skate transition, slappys, wallies, and those feel terrible at the moment...
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They’re too big but on a related note I’ve been running a cut down Ace top bushing with a flat washer and stock bottoms for a while now and shit is magical.
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ace low bushings and a flat washer is a great setup. the top was still a little tall but i didn't feel the need to cut it down. everyone's cut bushing i've seen came out really inconsistent and looked pretty terrible.

Oh for sure, mine are totally mangled but it’s working for me. Doesn’t seem to affect performance. I will definitely try the Ace low bushings whenever these need to be replaced.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on January 16, 2023, 01:25:21 PM
(I am happily making my way through this full thread so sorry if this has been talked about)

Does anyone else skate their 5.2 lo’s on an 8.25?
I’ve skated lo’s since I was a kid and I love them but I wanted a wider set up and with two washers on the inside of the trucks to push the wheels out, the setup feels lovely!

(https://i.ibb.co/Wy4ddJh/06-E1-F4-DF-C8-BD-4-B97-BDC6-6255-E5-FB697-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Wy4ddJh)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lildonut92 on January 18, 2023, 06:23:04 PM
So I stepped on a friends board today, 8.06 x 31.5 x 14wb with 5.2 lows. Damn it felt so stable and snappy. Turning wasn’t as bad as I’ve heard people say.

As someone who is accustomed to Indy forged hollows, I see myself making the switch. I’ve just always associated venture lows with tech lords and that’s not my thing. I feel like I would just enjoy pushing around more and be comfortable enough to try new things. My bad knee does feel a little more sore than usual but maybe it would just take some adjustment. I’m also a shrimp so maybe that’s why the pop feels more immediate and snappy.

Either way I’m pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on January 19, 2023, 01:33:25 AM
So I stepped on a friends board today, 8.06 x 31.5 x 14wb with 5.2 lows. Damn it felt so stable and snappy. Turning wasn’t as bad as I’ve heard people say.

As someone who is accustomed to Indy forged hollows, I see myself making the switch. I’ve just always associated venture lows with tech lords and that’s not my thing. I feel like I would just enjoy pushing around more and be comfortable enough to try new things. My bad knee does feel a little more sore than usual but maybe it would just take some adjustment. I’m also a shrimp so maybe that’s why the pop feels more immediate and snappy.

Either way I’m pleasantly surprised.

It's not just tech lord's. Yuto skates 5.2 lows and rips everything
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 19, 2023, 06:14:17 AM
Thunder 147 are almost a Venture low height and hella people skate those.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on January 19, 2023, 06:29:06 AM
So I stepped on a friends board today, 8.06 x 31.5 x 14wb with 5.2 lows. Damn it felt so stable and snappy. Turning wasn’t as bad as I’ve heard people say.

As someone who is accustomed to Indy forged hollows, I see myself making the switch. I’ve just always associated venture lows with tech lords and that’s not my thing. I feel like I would just enjoy pushing around more and be comfortable enough to try new things. My bad knee does feel a little more sore than usual but maybe it would just take some adjustment. I’m also a shrimp so maybe that’s why the pop feels more immediate and snappy.

Either way I’m pleasantly surprised.

I get this. I prefer the turn and carve of Indy and Ace trucks, but I’ve been on the Venture 5.0 Lows - just some super cheap one Zumiez had on closeout for $15/pair, and they’re great, especially for street skating. They kind psyche me out skating my local bowl, but honestly anyone could get used to them with enough time.

Good pop, flick and grind, and they work great on an 8.18” Primitive deck with a 14” wheelbase.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on January 20, 2023, 03:41:22 AM
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So I stepped on a friends board today, 8.06 x 31.5 x 14wb with 5.2 lows. Damn it felt so stable and snappy. Turning wasn’t as bad as I’ve heard people say.

As someone who is accustomed to Indy forged hollows, I see myself making the switch. I’ve just always associated venture lows with tech lords and that’s not my thing. I feel like I would just enjoy pushing around more and be comfortable enough to try new things. My bad knee does feel a little more sore than usual but maybe it would just take some adjustment. I’m also a shrimp so maybe that’s why the pop feels more immediate and snappy.

Either way I’m pleasantly surprised.
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It's not just tech lord's. Yuto skates 5.2 lows and rips everything

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cnfgv58MlLZ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= (https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cnfgv58MlLZ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)

Transition with lows.. AMAZING.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on January 20, 2023, 04:53:28 AM
Doesn't Westgate ride lows?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on January 20, 2023, 07:05:04 AM
Doesn't Westgate ride lows?
Yes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on January 21, 2023, 12:09:54 AM
Are the lows better for you when you are small or not ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on January 21, 2023, 05:35:01 AM
Are the lows better for you when you are small or not ?

It's all preference, but generally speaking it is rare to see tall people on low trucks. At least from my experiences.

And most of the people I know that still skate lows are shorter than average
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lildonut92 on January 21, 2023, 06:21:44 AM
This is just my experience. I’m short as hell. With Indys, even forged hollows, I feel too high off the ground. So it feels awkward to Ollie up onto anything like ledges and sidewalks. When I get up on a ledge, I just feel so weird being that tall on something. I also whiff a couple of ollies here and there. Lots of ghost pop for me. It’s also easier to pop a trick higher than I can catch it. But I love the way they grind and carve. I don’t want to be low truck guy but whatever.

After trying venture lows, they just felt right. I wasn’t having to put as much energy into my pop. I just felt much more secure overall. Everything felt a little bit easier. I’m also curious about trying some Thunder 147’s since I know they are kind of in the middle. At the end of the day, it’s all perspective. I could see why tall people wouldn’t right low trucks. Obviously there are short dudes who ride really high trucks and get insane pop. To each their own.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on January 21, 2023, 06:28:00 AM
This is just my experience. I’m short as hell. With Indys, even forged hollows, I feel too high off the ground. So it feels awkward to Ollie up onto anything like ledges and sidewalks. When I get up on a ledge, I just feel so weird being that tall on something. I also whiff a couple of ollies here and there. Lots of ghost pop for me. It’s also easier to pop a trick higher than I can catch it. But I love the way they grind and carve. I don’t want to be low truck guy but whatever.

After trying venture lows, they just felt right. I wasn’t having to put as much energy into my pop. I just felt much more secure overall. Everything felt a little bit easier. I’m also curious about trying some Thunder 147’s since I know they are kind of in the middle. At the end of the day, it’s all perspective. I could see why tall people wouldn’t right low trucks. Obviously there are short dudes who ride really high trucks and get insane pop. To each their own.

Ace lows and forged Indy mids might be worth checking out if you want a low truck that turns well.

I think the height/truck combo really comes down to your legs. Longer legs cover more space when compressing/decompressing, so naturally a truck height that would accommodate this distance would be ideal. There are exceptions to everything of course. Pretty sure janoski skates venture lows and he's a pretty tall guy. And back in the day, everyone was on lows for a time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lildonut92 on January 21, 2023, 06:50:38 AM
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This is just my experience. I’m short as hell. With Indys, even forged hollows, I feel too high off the ground. So it feels awkward to Ollie up onto anything like ledges and sidewalks. When I get up on a ledge, I just feel so weird being that tall on something. I also whiff a couple of ollies here and there. Lots of ghost pop for me. It’s also easier to pop a trick higher than I can catch it. But I love the way they grind and carve. I don’t want to be low truck guy but whatever.

After trying venture lows, they just felt right. I wasn’t having to put as much energy into my pop. I just felt much more secure overall. Everything felt a little bit easier. I’m also curious about trying some Thunder 147’s since I know they are kind of in the middle. At the end of the day, it’s all perspective. I could see why tall people wouldn’t right low trucks. Obviously there are short dudes who ride really high trucks and get insane pop. To each their own.
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Ace lows and forged Indy mids might be worth checking out if you want a low truck that turns well.

I think the height/truck combo really comes down to your legs. Longer legs cover more space when compressing/decompressing, so naturally a truck height that would accommodate this distance would be ideal. There are exceptions to everything of course. Pretty sure janoski skates venture lows and he's a pretty tall guy. And back in the day, everyone was on lows for a time.

Indy mids are definitely in consideration. I have no experience with ikp’s and I’ve read some posts about people having issues with them. But definitely interested.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 21, 2023, 07:23:33 AM
I’ve skated thunders, ace lo’s, and mindy’s, and I’d say it’s a toss up between mindys and thunders.  So far so good w. the IKP, they are definitely heavier though.  The pop isn’t as good as ventures but the wheelbase makes more sense and I won’t whiff when my board is razor’d….147 is a great truck too though, easily accessible.  Part of me thinks if you care about low trucks you might as well just get them.  That said, I’ve never skated a venture lo.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on January 21, 2023, 09:33:14 AM
Seems worth a share here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJmlgMMTevE
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on January 22, 2023, 02:06:06 AM
How do venture lo‘s grind?
You feel a difference to other trucks?
A difference compared to venture v hollows?
Are smith grinds different with them?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on January 22, 2023, 05:37:55 AM
I’ve done some of my best skating on Venture lows. At the time I was riding 7.6 decks with Venture lo 5.0. They felt light and would grind just fine. Smiths were different though, couldn’t dip them as deep as the highs. Once the kingpin nut got worn down they were good to go.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on January 22, 2023, 06:37:39 AM
How do venture lo‘s grind?
You feel a difference to other trucks?
A difference compared to venture v hollows?
Are smith grinds different with them?

Ventures probably grind the worst out of the big 4.

The lows have much less kp clearance than the regular height.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on January 22, 2023, 06:55:35 AM
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How do venture lo‘s grind?
You feel a difference to other trucks?
A difference compared to venture v hollows?
Are smith grinds different with them?
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Ventures probably grind the worst out of the big 4.

The lows have much less kp clearance than the regular height.

I don't know about Smith grinds, but as far as the regular grind goes, aren't Ventures made from identical material to Thunders? They are produced in the same factory, it seems unlikely that they formulate two different aluminum alloys for the trucks, but who knows. Thunders aren't known to grind poorly and my Ventures grind concrete as well as my Ace, but not as well as Indy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 22, 2023, 07:27:44 AM
I find ventures grind much worse than thunders and Indy’s…..you mainly notice it on angle iron….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on January 22, 2023, 07:29:11 AM
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How do venture lo‘s grind?
You feel a difference to other trucks?
A difference compared to venture v hollows?
Are smith grinds different with them?
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Ventures probably grind the worst out of the big 4.

The lows have much less kp clearance than the regular height.
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I don't know about Smith grinds, but as far as the regular grind goes, aren't Ventures made from identical material to Thunders? They are produced in the same factory, it seems unlikely that they formulate two different aluminum alloys for the trucks, but who knows. Thunders aren't known to grind poorly and my Ventures grind concrete as well as my Ace, but not as well as Indy.

It really doesn't make sense that they're NOT the same, but it sure feels like it. I often skate a sharp angle iron ledge and on thunders the edge really digs into the hanger, eating it away. On ventures it's a much harder different feeling and there's barely any marks on the hanger
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 22, 2023, 07:37:59 AM
I agree ventures are harder thus grind worse…..Venture denies it…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 22, 2023, 10:23:54 AM
Seems worth a share here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJmlgMMTevE

Daddy Ben has let the madness tak him full force! Setting up something like this is the equivalent of buying a porsche when you’re 55…I kid…I always have ‘tech’ board setup for when the mood strikes. 8.125x147x51mm
(https://i.ibb.co/fNQdGNv/IMG-3711.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fNQdGNv)
Skating it this weekend actually.

It seriously looks like he’s been enjoying doing the Slappy low impact game because of his knee and now he wants to get back into tech ledge work.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 22, 2023, 11:30:32 AM
 Nick Matthews is back on his Venture lo from recent photos and he back smiths pretty fucking fine I'd say.

I'm actually considering low trucks. I've been on Thunder cast for a while and did have a brief affair with Indy mids with some bad IKP luck. I've actually considered mid hangers, forged hollow plates, ace low bushings and shave the kingpin down. But that sounds like a lotta work
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 22, 2023, 11:41:08 AM
Nick Matthews is back on his Venture lo from recent photos and he back smiths pretty fucking fine I'd say.

I'm actually considering low trucks. I've been on Thunder cast for a while and did have a brief affair with Indy mids with some bad IKP luck. I've actually considered mid hangers, forged hollow plates, ace low bushings and shave the kingpin down. But that sounds like a lotta work

I for sure prefer low(er) trucks, 52mm or below...tons of options thunders, ML, ACE Low, Indy forged mids, they feel more comfortable to me...it's the wheelbite that gets me as I don't like tight trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on January 22, 2023, 11:45:53 AM
Are 53 mm wheels ok with venture lo‘s?
Just bought some spitfires in that size, but now I like to try the lo trucks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: swellbowed on January 22, 2023, 11:49:52 AM
Are 53 mm wheels ok with venture lo‘s?
Just bought some spitfires in that size, but now I like to try the lo trucks
53mm should be good! I’ve ridden 55mm with low’s before and didn’t have any issues
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on January 22, 2023, 11:57:51 AM
Are 53 mm wheels ok with venture lo‘s?
Just bought some spitfires in that size, but now I like to try the lo trucks

People say you can’t skate anything over 51 and I think that’s nonsense. I know he doesn’t skate ventures but look at someone like Daewon and the way his trucks are, wheelbite is inevitable no matter what, I think it’s good for you to have a higher risk of it because it makes you a better skater and makes you more aware of landing straight and stuff.

I do miss a time where I didn’t know the size of anything I was skating, I just put stuff on and skated it, if it didn’t work it was just tough shit haha

Ignorance was bliss 😂
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on January 22, 2023, 12:40:42 PM
Thanks, I’ll just throw the 53 mm‘s on them.
I mean I have them anyway now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 22, 2023, 12:58:05 PM
I know a dude on Venture lo and 53s and he rips. Helps that he's ripped for 30 years but it's at least not making him rip less.

So what are the wb differences on all these various lows?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 22, 2023, 01:32:06 PM
Indy/Ace/ml pull it in
Royal middle ground
Venture/thunder push out

I always pair 14.25 WB with a thunder or Royal

14.38wb with any of the rest

Currently bouncing between thunder, and ML (with 1/16th riser)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on January 22, 2023, 01:49:42 PM
V light lo‘s or not?
Your opinion?

I ride v hollow highs before.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on January 22, 2023, 02:10:44 PM
How many people are coming to this thread after watching daddy bens video and swapping to venture lows? Just curious.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FGO925 on January 22, 2023, 02:13:51 PM
Currently rocking some v-hollow lo’s on a setup and it’s been fun. I’ve only skated it once or twice so far but I’m surprised how little wheel it I’ve gotten. I do have an old pair of 53’s that are most likely 50/49mm by now but it’s been a fun ride thus far.

Keep in mind the lights/hollows are a tad lower than the standard lo’s.

I only opted for the hollow because on the nine club Westgate mentioned he rides those
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 22, 2023, 02:48:12 PM
How many people are coming to this thread after watching daddy bens video and swapping to venture lows? Just curious.

I thought his trucks are 139 forged hollow?

I've been wanting to do something weird for a while. Royals weren't it this summer. I got a used Huffer and 149s and it honestly wasn't the fun I thought it would be.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on January 22, 2023, 02:50:55 PM
How many people are coming to this thread after watching daddy bens video and swapping to venture lows? Just curious.

I bet there are a large percentage of people who didn’t watch it till the end.

He should have called it “skate dad tries indy 139, you won’t believe what happens next!?”
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 22, 2023, 03:57:44 PM
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How many people are coming to this thread after watching daddy bens video and swapping to venture lows? Just curious.
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I thought his trucks are 139 forged hollow?

I've been wanting to do something weird for a while. Royals weren't it this summer. I got a used Huffer and 149s and it honestly wasn't the fun I thought it would be.

He switched it up and slapped some venture lows om it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 22, 2023, 05:21:11 PM
Haha damn I'm an idiot then! I frankly don't finish bhus videos these days because it fuels my own madness and it's kinda dumb when he proclaims setup supremacy and then goes back on that word in his next video.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on January 22, 2023, 05:52:22 PM
How many people are coming to this thread after watching daddy bens video and swapping to venture lows? Just curious.

Ben and I are currently on functionally identical setups. Deck is a Primitive and hardware is generic, but otherwise it’s the same everything down to the bearings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 22, 2023, 06:57:47 PM
But those primitives are 14" WB (?); still one of the best 8.125 shapes tho, such a great nose.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 22, 2023, 08:38:34 PM
I want the Spencer custom shape 8.125 with 14.25
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 22, 2023, 09:18:36 PM
I want the Spencer custom shape 8.125 with 14.25

Which? Last 8.125 Prim I had was a Hamilton (dimension deck), same old 14" WB. I'd dip on one with a 14.25WB.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tom Pearl on January 22, 2023, 09:52:54 PM
are the new bbs quasi's the same exact shape as the ps stix?

im on an 8 quasi with a 14.25 wheelbase and 5.2 lo's (52 f4 classics) and it's seriously the best set up i've ever had, i might start buying nothing but quasi after i run through the rest of the decks i have left


i run nothing but 5.2 lo's regardless of shape or wheelbase tho, 5.2 lo's on a board like a quasi or FA you can fucking blast nollies so good. i can do knee high nollies like its nothing on them but the last board i had before the quasi was a 8 enjoi and it was a struggle to even get it off the ground


i would say dont pair them with a sub 14 wheelbase if you like nollies, nollie flips wear fine but straight nollies weren't happening for me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 23, 2023, 05:02:17 AM
I skate 5.2 lo’s. Favorite truck, and close to madness free: the big issue is being committed to wheels 52 or less, and less cruising.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on January 23, 2023, 05:04:29 AM
Do any of you skate your 5.2 lows on anything other than 8”?

I skate mine on 8.25 and it’s great.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 23, 2023, 05:12:45 AM
I usually skate 8, rn it’s a smaller 8 (ps with some taper, and probably too many routing passes). I don’t prefer the look of the larger deck than truck ratio, but can confirm that it skates great. I can also skate a slightly bigger wheel in that scenario.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on January 23, 2023, 05:17:41 AM
But those primitives are 14" WB (?); still one of the best 8.125 shapes tho, such a great nose.

Yeah, agreed. I bought one on sale because it had a 14” wheelbase and now it’s far and away my favorite shape.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lildonut92 on January 23, 2023, 06:56:51 AM
I pretty much don’t skate anything above an 8. But you all talking about the primitive 8.1 shape has my attention. Anyone found a good 8.0 to pair with your 5.2 lo?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: arrbee on January 23, 2023, 11:31:53 AM
are the new bbs quasi's the same exact shape as the ps stix?

im on an 8 quasi with a 14.25 wheelbase and 5.2 lo's (52 f4 classics) and it's seriously the best set up i've ever had, i might start buying nothing but quasi after i run through the rest of the decks i have left


i run nothing but 5.2 lo's regardless of shape or wheelbase tho, 5.2 lo's on a board like a quasi or FA you can fucking blast nollies so good. i can do knee high nollies like its nothing on them but the last board i had before the quasi was a 8 enjoi and it was a struggle to even get it off the ground


i would say dont pair them with a sub 14 wheelbase if you like nollies, nollie flips wear fine but straight nollies weren't happening for me

Almost identical, i find the BBS is slightly steeper
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on January 23, 2023, 12:07:46 PM
Oh, hollow lo‘s are even lower?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 23, 2023, 12:58:35 PM
I feel like the venture grinds the same as a thunder. It just feels a little different when you're one one truck.prolly the geometry.  50 50 is the same go.
I'm not the best grinder anymore. Old = perpetually slightly off balance but once I get grooves It doesn't matter the truck. If I can get on it I'm going with a smile.

Indy is always going to be the best at that fast 5059 feel. After gullwings made of nylon that. Remember those? Haha.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on January 23, 2023, 01:21:52 PM
Oh, hollow lo‘s are even lower?
Venture has two standard heights (i got these numbers from Tactics btw but should be fairly accurate)
High = 53.5mm
Low = 48.3mm

The forged plates (which come on lights, hollows and titaniums) drop the height by 1.5mm
High = 52mm
Low = 46.8mm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on January 23, 2023, 01:23:04 PM
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Oh, hollow lo‘s are even lower?
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Venture has two standard heights (i got these numbers from Tactics btw but should be fairly accurate)
High = 53.5mm
Low = 48.3mm

The forged plates (which come on lights, hollows and titaniums) drop the height by 1.5mm
High = 52mm
Low = 46.8mm

Thanks! V hollow lights are 48 too I just saw
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nosneb on January 23, 2023, 01:26:28 PM
Ben been riding venture low 5.0 watch his mike carroll reissue video 😍
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 23, 2023, 01:28:28 PM
Good gods 46.8mm....best get some rocks for bushings and 48mm lil'smokies or some shit =D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nosneb on January 23, 2023, 02:12:21 PM
Good gods 46.8mm....best get some rocks for bushings and 48mm lil'smokies or some shit =D

A homie growing up would ride thunder low 145with spitfire 58mm perfectly fine. His trucks was so tight tho lol

48mm is plenty big anything bigger than 51s look like mega ramp wheels 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 23, 2023, 02:35:15 PM
Any truck 52mm or below and I’m on 52/51s to start (currently on forged 147s/51mm-ish, might be 50 now). Pop feels amazing.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 23, 2023, 04:28:35 PM
Is there a 5.0 low that is hollow anything with cast plates?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 23, 2023, 09:09:34 PM
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Venture has two standard heights (i got these numbers from Tactics btw but should be fairly accurate)
High = 53.5mm
Low = 48.3mm

The forged plates (which come on lights, hollows and titaniums) drop the height by 1.5mm
High = 52mm
Low = 46.8mm
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Thanks! V hollow lights are 48 too I just saw

Check my sig, Tactics numbers have been all over the place so the numbers in my sig are from DLX direct.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 23, 2023, 09:30:42 PM
Any truck 52mm or below and I’m on 52/51s to start (currently on forged 147s/51mm-ish, might be 50 now). Pop feels amazing.

147s are the shit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 24, 2023, 05:03:16 AM
Truck madness got me again, riding an 8.3 Element with very tapered kicks, listed as a 8.3 x 31.9 x 14.25 x 6.75 x 6.5, but the tail feels way too short. Tried going from forged to cast baseplates and it helped a little, but I was ghost popping for so much of the session. Took me 3 hours before I figured that I needed to put my popping foot on the tip of the tail and snap down harder than usual.

Still not out of the woods, got me wondering if I should swap to Royal or Thunder cast, or sizing down from 53 to 52mm wheels.

Fuck!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 24, 2023, 05:22:35 AM
Truck madness got me again, riding an 8.3 Element with very tapered kicks, listed as a 8.3 x 31.9 x 14.25 x 6.75 x 6.5, but the tail feels way too short. Tried going from forged to cast baseplates and it helped a little, but I was ghost popping for so much of the session. Took me 3 hours before I figured that I needed to put my popping foot on the tip of the tail and snap down harder than usual.

Still not out of the woods, got me wondering if I should swap to Royal or Thunder cast, or sizing down from 53 to 52mm wheels.

Fuck!


Did that board have way longer fingers of flat before the kick?  I ask only because someone else with another brand board from the same woodshop had issues with something similar compared to their previous board.  Once they adjusted, they ended up figuring it out and really liked the board and the way it worked for them.  That was on forged Thunders, but they also have other trucks including Ventures on similar boards.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TwisT on January 24, 2023, 06:50:15 AM
does anyone make cone shaped bushings that are the venture translucent purple? Or does the loose truck conversion kit come in purple?

I'm not enjoying my break in period on the stock bushings, but i want to keep that classic venture look
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 24, 2023, 06:56:16 AM
I've been on Thunder 149 cast and BBS 8.38 for a while now and wanna mess around with a Low setup. I prefer kinda flat decks and the generic mold I buy is from Frog, TKF, and the companies that seem to use the mellower presses.

Im considering a generic BBS 8.1x14.25 but curious about people's recommendations here. Crail decks are dramatically different shapes so I am not sold on those. I thought maybe a Baker 8.125 (their site says the 8 is steep) or April/Primitive could be cool. Years back I had the DLX 8.28x14.12 shape and found it way too constructive, but that was on Thunders and it had little fingers of flat.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nosneb on January 24, 2023, 07:00:50 AM
does anyone make cone shaped bushings that are the venture translucent purple? Or does the loose truck conversion kit come in purple?

I'm not enjoying my break in period on the stock bushings, but i want to keep that classic venture look

Just take your roadside bushing and just sand the bottom side of it with old griptape. Pretty much venture conversion kit for free.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on January 24, 2023, 07:04:38 AM
I've been on Thunder 149 cast and BBS 8.38 for a while now and wanna mess around with a Low setup. I prefer kinda flat decks and the generic mold I buy is from Frog, TKF, and the companies that seem to use the mellower presses.

Im considering a generic BBS 8.1x14.25 but curious about people's recommendations here. Crail decks are dramatically different shapes so I am not sold on those. I thought maybe a Baker 8.125 (their site says the 8 is steep) or April/Primitive could be cool. Years back I had the DLX 8.28x14.12 shape and found it way too constructive, but that was on Thunders and it had little fingers of flat.
Tbh I found my Habitat 8.1 bbs pressed on venture lows to feel surprisingly good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 24, 2023, 11:25:08 AM
Doesn’t quasi historically make really flat decks too? I still like the generic BBS one too, the way the concave transitions into the nose still makes it feel not like a total plank…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nosneb on January 24, 2023, 12:21:24 PM
You will have to go hand pick them in person since psstix presses in a stack you’ll have full spectrum of steep to mellow but from the bbs decks I’ve seen it’s medium
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 24, 2023, 12:48:27 PM
I've been on Thunder 149 cast and BBS 8.38 for a while now and wanna mess around with a Low setup. I prefer kinda flat decks and the generic mold I buy is from Frog, TKF, and the companies that seem to use the mellower presses.

Im considering a generic BBS 8.1x14.25 but curious about people's recommendations here. Crail decks are dramatically different shapes so I am not sold on those. I thought maybe a Baker 8.125 (their site says the 8 is steep) or April/Primitive could be cool. Years back I had the DLX 8.28x14.12 shape and found it way too constructive, but that was on Thunders and it had little fingers of flat.

The UMA 8.125 is pretty mellow

What is your length pref? I can't do 31.5" which much of the 8.125s are, so it's 31.75 or greater (but under 32").

WB? The quasi 8.125s are all 14.125WB or something

April/Prim are all 14" unless you can produce a link to that magical Hamilton 8.125 you mentioned with a 14.25"WB? I'd be all over that...the 8.125 Primitives measure 8.125 but feel like 8.25s.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on January 24, 2023, 12:51:51 PM
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Venture has two standard heights (i got these numbers from Tactics btw but should be fairly accurate)
High = 53.5mm
Low = 48.3mm

The forged plates (which come on lights, hollows and titaniums) drop the height by 1.5mm
High = 52mm
Low = 46.8mm
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Thanks! V hollow lights are 48 too I just saw
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Check my sig, Tactics numbers have been all over the place so the numbers in my sig are from DLX direct.

The numbers in your sig don’t add up though. How is the difference between forged and cast different on highs and lows if the baseplates are the same?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 24, 2023, 12:55:46 PM
Well I figured I'd be throwing all my preferences out the window by going with lows. Right now I think 32 is the sweet spot or 31.9. Depends on the kicks I'd say and why I tend to stay away from steeper decks they kinda lock my ankles in. I've skated a 14.25/31.8 BBS that was super mellow and really enjoyed it because I could sorta land right in the start of the kick and not have that feeling.

Primitive doesn't sell that Hamilton shape but he posts it on his IG often. I asked if they ever would and he just hearted my DM and didn't respond.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on January 24, 2023, 02:03:20 PM
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Venture has two standard heights (i got these numbers from Tactics btw but should be fairly accurate)
High = 53.5mm
Low = 48.3mm

The forged plates (which come on lights, hollows and titaniums) drop the height by 1.5mm
High = 52mm
Low = 46.8mm
[close]

Thanks! V hollow lights are 48 too I just saw
[close]

Check my sig, Tactics numbers have been all over the place so the numbers in my sig are from DLX direct.
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The numbers in your sig don’t add up though. How is the difference between forged and cast different on highs and lows if the baseplates are the same?
Oh nice catch! His sig is mostly accurate besides the difference in height for the LOs. Assuming the standard height is accurate, I subtracted 1.27mm (difference in height between forged and cast HIs) to get the new underlined height

Venture Truck Height:

LOWs are only available in 5.0 & 5.2
STANDARD LO - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED LO - 1.83”- 46.48mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1
STANDARD HI- 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED HI - 2.04” - 51.82m

TLDR: In summary, if you know the height of the standard truck (regardless of High or Low, Brand, etc.), the forged counterpart will drop the height about 1 - 1.5mm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on January 24, 2023, 05:24:52 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/KGtWpQN/E1443-B0-B-195-C-45-D9-A930-4-B1-E78865-BEF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KGtWpQN)

6.1 ventures v-hollows work really nicely with a short wheelbase 9” deck :)

Lots of fun!

I’ve never experienced any madness, venture are just perfect for everything I need!

I just enjoyed trying the new sizes and that’s as close to madness as I get.

Anyone else have a similar set up?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 24, 2023, 05:45:52 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/KGtWpQN/E1443-B0-B-195-C-45-D9-A930-4-B1-E78865-BEF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KGtWpQN)

6.1 ventures v-hollows work really nicely with a short wheelbase 9” deck :)

Lots of fun!

I’ve never experienced any madness, venture are just perfect for everything I need!

I just enjoyed trying the new sizes and that’s as close to madness as I get.

Anyone else have a similar set up?


Yes, it definitely helps with a board with shorter wheelbase on a similar length to what I usually ride with longer wheelbase on Indy trucks, so I thought Ventures would work well and they do.

It is fun to find what works best with some setups that might not work so well with others.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 24, 2023, 06:44:17 PM
Well I figured I'd be throwing all my preferences out the window by going with lows. Right now I think 32 is the sweet spot or 31.9. Depends on the kicks I'd say and why I tend to stay away from steeper decks they kinda lock my ankles in. I've skated a 14.25/31.8 BBS that was super mellow and really enjoyed it because I could sorta land right in the start of the kick and not have that feeling.

Primitive doesn't sell that Hamilton shape but he posts it on his IG often. I asked if they ever would and he just hearted my DM and didn't respond.

Maybe check out polar? They have a 32"/8.125 with wheel wells
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 24, 2023, 06:55:57 PM
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Venture has two standard heights (i got these numbers from Tactics btw but should be fairly accurate)
High = 53.5mm
Low = 48.3mm

The forged plates (which come on lights, hollows and titaniums) drop the height by 1.5mm
High = 52mm
Low = 46.8mm
[close]

Thanks! V hollow lights are 48 too I just saw
[close]

Check my sig, Tactics numbers have been all over the place so the numbers in my sig are from DLX direct.
[close]

The numbers in your sig don’t add up though. How is the difference between forged and cast different on highs and lows if the baseplates are the same?
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Oh nice catch! His sig is mostly accurate besides the difference in height for the LOs. Assuming the standard height is accurate, I subtracted 1.27mm (difference in height between forged and cast HIs) to get the new underlined height

Venture Truck Height:

LOWs are only available in 5.0 & 5.2
STANDARD LO - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED LO - 1.85”- 46.48mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1
STANDARD HI- 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED HI - 2.04” - 51.82m

TLDR: In summary, if you know the height of the standard truck (regardless of High or Low, Brand, etc.), the forged counterpart will drop the height about 1 - 1.5mm

Thanks guys, I just copied the numbers provided by DLX when they replied my DM and didn't double check that they made sense. And yes, going from cast to forged drops the height by 1.5mm.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on January 24, 2023, 09:25:40 PM
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Oh, hollow lo‘s are even lower?
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Venture has two standard heights (i got these numbers from Tactics btw but should be fairly accurate)
High = 53.5mm
Low = 48.3mm

The forged plates (which come on lights, hollows and titaniums) drop the height by 1.5mm
High = 52mm
Low = 46.8mm
[close]

Thanks! V hollow lights are 48 too I just saw
[close]

Check my sig, Tactics numbers have been all over the place so the numbers in my sig are from DLX direct.
[close]

The numbers in your sig don’t add up though. How is the difference between forged and cast different on highs and lows if the baseplates are the same?
[close]
Oh nice catch! His sig is mostly accurate besides the difference in height for the LOs. Assuming the standard height is accurate, I subtracted 1.27mm (difference in height between forged and cast HIs) to get the new underlined height

Venture Truck Height:

LOWs are only available in 5.0 & 5.2
STANDARD LO - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED LO - 1.85”- 46.48mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1
STANDARD HI- 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED HI - 2.04” - 51.82m

TLDR: In summary, if you know the height of the standard truck (regardless of High or Low, Brand, etc.), the forged counterpart will drop the height about 1 - 1.5mm

Nice work! To also fix the inch measurements the forged low should be 1.83” not 1.85”, right?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on January 25, 2023, 07:40:26 AM
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Oh, hollow lo‘s are even lower?
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Venture has two standard heights (i got these numbers from Tactics btw but should be fairly accurate)
High = 53.5mm
Low = 48.3mm

The forged plates (which come on lights, hollows and titaniums) drop the height by 1.5mm
High = 52mm
Low = 46.8mm
[close]

Thanks! V hollow lights are 48 too I just saw
[close]

Check my sig, Tactics numbers have been all over the place so the numbers in my sig are from DLX direct.
[close]

The numbers in your sig don’t add up though. How is the difference between forged and cast different on highs and lows if the baseplates are the same?
[close]
Oh nice catch! His sig is mostly accurate besides the difference in height for the LOs. Assuming the standard height is accurate, I subtracted 1.27mm (difference in height between forged and cast HIs) to get the new underlined height

Venture Truck Height:

LOWs are only available in 5.0 & 5.2
STANDARD LO - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED LO - 1.85”- 46.48mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1
STANDARD HI- 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED HI - 2.04” - 51.82m

TLDR: In summary, if you know the height of the standard truck (regardless of High or Low, Brand, etc.), the forged counterpart will drop the height about 1 - 1.5mm
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Nice work! To also fix the inch measurements the forged low should be 1.83” not 1.85”, right?
correct! i'll edit my reply to reflect that
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on January 25, 2023, 09:31:50 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/KGtWpQN/E1443-B0-B-195-C-45-D9-A930-4-B1-E78865-BEF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KGtWpQN)

6.1 ventures v-hollows work really nicely with a short wheelbase 9” deck :)

Lots of fun!

I’ve never experienced any madness, venture are just perfect for everything I need!

I just enjoyed trying the new sizes and that’s as close to madness as I get.

Anyone else have a similar set up?

I would love to try this out. I dont think it would work for me in the long run, but the WBSWB with ventures seems like it would make a lot of tricks feel/work nicely.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on January 25, 2023, 09:38:46 AM
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(https://i.ibb.co/KGtWpQN/E1443-B0-B-195-C-45-D9-A930-4-B1-E78865-BEF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KGtWpQN)

6.1 ventures v-hollows work really nicely with a short wheelbase 9” deck :)

Lots of fun!

I’ve never experienced any madness, venture are just perfect for everything I need!

I just enjoyed trying the new sizes and that’s as close to madness as I get.

Anyone else have a similar set up?
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I would love to try this out. I dont think it would work for me in the long run, but the WBSWB with ventures seems like it would make a lot of tricks feel/work nicely.

It’s definitely not something I skate every day but it’s for sure fun, I skate a lot narrower decks with ventures, I’d quite like to have a set up for every venture size, that’s as mad as my madness would go I think.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on January 25, 2023, 11:27:31 AM
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(https://i.ibb.co/KGtWpQN/E1443-B0-B-195-C-45-D9-A930-4-B1-E78865-BEF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KGtWpQN)

6.1 ventures v-hollows work really nicely with a short wheelbase 9” deck :)

Lots of fun!

I’ve never experienced any madness, venture are just perfect for everything I need!

I just enjoyed trying the new sizes and that’s as close to madness as I get.

Anyone else have a similar set up?
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I would love to try this out. I dont think it would work for me in the long run, but the WBSWB with ventures seems like it would make a lot of tricks feel/work nicely.
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It’s definitely not something I skate every day but it’s for sure fun, I skate a lot narrower decks with ventures, I’d quite like to have a set up for every venture size, that’s as mad as my madness would go I think.

not necessarily WBSWB but i love ventures (esp. light ventures) on big wheel + long nose/tail decks. Any size or wb really 8.25/5.6 or 8.5/5.8 I feel the effects of the kick length a lot more on most tricks cuz my shoulders r kinda wide apart
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on January 27, 2023, 04:22:52 AM
I bought V lights high ventures used, in good condition with a very low price !  I can't wait to try them  :D I skate standards, with an 8 deck and 14 WB, but sometimes struggle on certain tricks.. I hope the reduced weight is felt, even if it's only a few grams ! In addition if it is a little lower, much more reactive.

However, are you sure that the lights and hollows are a little lower ?  ;D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on January 27, 2023, 06:55:35 AM
I bought V lights high ventures used, in good condition with a very low price !  I can't wait to try them  :D I skate standards, with an 8 deck and 14 WB, but sometimes struggle on certain tricks.. I hope the reduced weight is felt, even if it's only a few grams ! In addition if it is a little lower, much more reactive.

However, are you sure that the lights and hollows are a little lower ?  ;D

as long as the person you bought from kept them on the forged baseplates, yep
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 27, 2023, 06:59:19 AM
Well I did it- got an 8" x14.2 deck on the way and 5.2 low. Think I'll toss some used 52 that are now 50 on there. Will be fun to fuck with.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 27, 2023, 07:35:06 AM
Well I did it- got an 8" x14.2 deck on the way and 5.2 low. Think I'll toss some used 52 that are now 50 on there. Will be fun to fuck with.

I remember you being taller and liking longer boards, I think. What’s the length?
With ventures I tend to bring the ball of my popping foot closer to the tail, which suits me fine as that was what I had to do in the whale tale bridgebolt era.
Skating 50s is the shit. I am made out wet paper bags, and the extra weight of a versatile wheel is terrible. I’d rather scuff my clothing and walk my board to the spot. Small wheels feel so…frivolous and nice.

Hope the setup is fun, I’ve found this same setup to really halt my gear anxiety: shit just works (slow flatground attempts of tricks I could sorta do 25 years ago).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on January 27, 2023, 09:50:05 AM
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I bought V lights high ventures used, in good condition with a very low price !  I can't wait to try them  :D I skate standards, with an 8 deck and 14 WB, but sometimes struggle on certain tricks.. I hope the reduced weight is felt, even if it's only a few grams ! In addition if it is a little lower, much more reactive.

However, are you sure that the lights and hollows are a little lower ?  ;D
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as long as the person you bought from kept them on the forged baseplates, yep

Yes the baseplate is forged !  A lot of people say that lights don't change anything for skating, but a lighter and slightly lower board helps me with tricks! (I'm small haha)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on January 27, 2023, 10:19:02 AM
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Well I did it- got an 8" x14.2 deck on the way and 5.2 low. Think I'll toss some used 52 that are now 50 on there. Will be fun to fuck with.
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I remember you being taller and liking longer boards, I think. What’s the length?
With ventures I tend to bring the ball of my popping foot closer to the tail, which suits me fine as that was what I had to do in the whale tale bridgebolt era.
Skating 50s is the shit. I am made out wet paper bags, and the extra weight of a versatile wheel is terrible. I’d rather scuff my clothing and walk my board to the spot. Small wheels feel so…frivolous and nice.

Hope the setup is fun, I’ve found this same setup to really halt my gear anxiety: shit just works (slow flatground attempts of tricks I could sorta do 25 years ago).

It's a generic 31.75 or 31.8. I do normally prefer them on higher trucks,  however, lo trucks change a bunch of angles and bullshit. I'd thus rather scale the deck to the trucks than just slap lo trucks on my normal deck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 27, 2023, 12:22:58 PM
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Well I did it- got an 8" x14.2 deck on the way and 5.2 low. Think I'll toss some used 52 that are now 50 on there. Will be fun to fuck with.
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I remember you being taller and liking longer boards, I think. What’s the length?
With ventures I tend to bring the ball of my popping foot closer to the tail, which suits me fine as that was what I had to do in the whale tale bridgebolt era.
Skating 50s is the shit. I am made out wet paper bags, and the extra weight of a versatile wheel is terrible. I’d rather scuff my clothing and walk my board to the spot. Small wheels feel so…frivolous and nice.

Hope the setup is fun, I’ve found this same setup to really halt my gear anxiety: shit just works (slow flatground attempts of tricks I could sorta do 25 years ago).
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It's a generic 31.75 or 31.8. I do normally prefer them on higher trucks,  however, lo trucks change a bunch of angles and bullshit. I'd thus rather scale the deck to the trucks than just slap lo trucks on my normal deck.


Makes sense, interested to read how it goes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 27, 2023, 06:24:50 PM
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I bought V lights high ventures used, in good condition with a very low price !  I can't wait to try them  :D I skate standards, with an 8 deck and 14 WB, but sometimes struggle on certain tricks.. I hope the reduced weight is felt, even if it's only a few grams ! In addition if it is a little lower, much more reactive.

However, are you sure that the lights and hollows are a little lower ?  ;D
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as long as the person you bought from kept them on the forged baseplates, yep
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Yes the baseplate is forged !  A lot of people say that lights don't change anything for skating, but a lighter and slightly lower board helps me with tricks! (I'm small haha)

Really it just feels lighter in the hand. The pop feel is the same. Probably because of the mm or so longer natty wb. Does seem to flip faster tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Schinken on February 02, 2023, 05:01:12 AM
Does anyone else have problems with durability of venture bushings? A few days ago I've got myself some 5.8 Ventures with those purple bushings. The front top bushing start to split /crumble after the first session. Maybe the stock bushings can't handle temperatures around freezing?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on February 02, 2023, 09:11:12 AM
Does anyone else have problems with durability of venture bushings? A few days ago I've got myself some 5.8 Ventures with those purple bushings. The front top bushing start to split /crumble after the first session. Maybe the stock bushings can't handle temperatures around freezing?

My venture soft bushings also crumbled in the european winter temperatures after some month of me barely (!) skating them. So... I don't think they are made for that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on February 02, 2023, 10:39:43 AM
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Does anyone else have problems with durability of venture bushings? A few days ago I've got myself some 5.8 Ventures with those purple bushings. The front top bushing start to split /crumble after the first session. Maybe the stock bushings can't handle temperatures around freezing?
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My venture soft bushings also crumbled in the european winter temperatures after some month of me barely (!) skating them. So... I don't think they are made for that.

the bushings from element trucks are soft, don’t freeze up, don’t really blow out and fit ventures perfectly. my stock purples blew out quick too but these element bushings i’ve had since at least july and they are holding up well and turn really nice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 02, 2023, 12:18:21 PM
The Venture hanger has the worst top bushing pinch of any brand. Most people eventually crumble them but cold accelerates that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on February 02, 2023, 09:28:31 PM
Does anyone else have problems with durability of venture bushings? A few days ago I've got myself some 5.8 Ventures with those purple bushings. The front top bushing start to split /crumble after the first session. Maybe the stock bushings can't handle temperatures around freezing?

even in summer, same problem, swap them with indy 90a bushings and bones flat washers on top. never had the problem again.  indy 90a are a little bit firmer than venture stock, 88~90a I would recommend for the same feeling.
if you max out the turning, stock top washer would chew out the top bushing, so I think flat top washers are important.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 02, 2023, 09:48:39 PM
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Does anyone else have problems with durability of venture bushings? A few days ago I've got myself some 5.8 Ventures with those purple bushings. The front top bushing start to split /crumble after the first session. Maybe the stock bushings can't handle temperatures around freezing?
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even in summer, same problem, swap them with indy 90a bushings and bones flat washers on top. never had the problem again.  indy 90a are a little bit firmer than venture stock, 88~90a I would recommend for the same feeling.
if you max out the turning, stock top washer would chew out the top bushing, so I think flat top washers are important.

i back this. indy parts bait and tackle and the lowering kit. stock purple bushings are like 1/5 crack up. truck still worked but you know. it bothered me. a pal saved the day once sending extra purps my way once. evan smith i think.

once you find a good set of purps its best to hang on to them for a few trucks. i got 4 out of one set. now im on the lowering kit im straight. the best winter bushing for sure. couldcut the cracked purp and get the same effect
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on February 04, 2023, 07:13:39 AM
Has anyone rode the loose conversion bushings in their ventures yet that could share how they are? Do they make the turn any better than the standard purples? More surfy? Do you ride them with the flat top washer or the standard one? Any info on how they are would be appreciated...thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on February 04, 2023, 07:22:46 AM
If you leave the nut flush, there’s no resistance at all when you lean over. If you tighten it down a few threads, you can dial it in just where you like it.

Standard Venture washer works if you want a little more firmness at the end, but use a flat one to open it up completely and/or if the washer hitting the hanger bothers you.

I’ve ridden them on both Lo and Hi.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: blahblah999 on February 04, 2023, 10:23:42 AM
I bought a set of Venture 6.1s and put them on a 9'' football/egg shaped board with taper. Stock bushings were too soft for me so I put some Dimebag Hardware (sold by TGM) hard bushings in the trucks. Can't comment on long-term durability yet but they do fit the trucks easily with both washers. These bushings are cheap enough that you can try out multiple duros and mix and match them if you want.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 04, 2023, 03:45:01 PM
Has anyone rode the loose conversion bushings in their ventures yet that could share how they are? Do they make the turn any better than the standard purples? More surfy? Do you ride them with the flat top washer or the standard one? Any info on how they are would be appreciated...thanks!

Way more surfy. In freezing weather its hella fun. Very loose. More similar to ace but stable still.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on February 04, 2023, 04:42:30 PM
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Has anyone rode the loose conversion bushings in their ventures yet that could share how they are? Do they make the turn any better than the standard purples? More surfy? Do you ride them with the flat top washer or the standard one? Any info on how they are would be appreciated...thanks!
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Way more surfy. In freezing weather its hella fun. Very loose. More similar to ace but stable still.


I was hoping for that! Appreciate the info
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 04, 2023, 05:13:05 PM
Has anyone rode the loose conversion bushings in their ventures yet that could share how they are? Do they make the turn any better than the standard purples? More surfy? Do you ride them with the flat top washer or the standard one? Any info on how they are would be appreciated...thanks!


I got some and passed them around for everyone to try who wanted to.

Most people said they were way too loose, but that was to be expected when they only tighten the nut to just past flush.


Compared to any other bushing, the easiest way to explain to anyone without actually getting a set is to take off the metal washers and only just have the kingpin nut on whatever truck you are riding with stock 90 bushings and that is pretty close to how they feel.

As a normal 90 duro bushing with a low head they are great if your trucks have worn down to axle or you have angle grinded / naturally grinded your kingpin down too far to get the normal set up bushings on, so when you tighten them down a couple of turns, they are still nice and loose but sit way lower in the top area.  You then have a lot more room to loosen them off if you need to as well, which was the intended purpose.




Way more surfy. In freezing weather its hella fun. Very loose. More similar to ace but stable still.


I could definitely see how this would be an advantage in really cold climates where other bushings would freeze up and trucks just would not turn too!!!

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 04, 2023, 06:24:56 PM
Other things to do to get a better turn: switch out the pivot cup, drop the top washer, conical bushings…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on February 09, 2023, 08:25:18 AM
Well I tried the 5.2 high v lights.. I must say that I have a prefence for the standards!

The trucks are really set back, wheelbase much larger than the raws, so a harder pop to control, especially for someone short like me .. yet I'm on a board with 14 wheelbase, but as I said pop is harder to control.. the board goes up much faster, I can't imagine that on a 14.25 or bigger..

No height difference, I measured both trucks next to each other.. and the weight difference is not significant..

I think lights and hollow are better on lows, but not highs! At least, that's my personal experience!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TwisT on February 09, 2023, 09:15:45 AM
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does anyone make cone shaped bushings that are the venture translucent purple? Or does the loose truck conversion kit come in purple?

I'm not enjoying my break in period on the stock bushings, but i want to keep that classic venture look
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Just take your roadside bushing and just sand the bottom side of it with old griptape. Pretty much venture conversion kit for free.

since this post, I did shave down to barrels on grip and replaced the top and bottom washers with thinner flat ones. This has given me more play and better response.

wish someone made coned bushing in a venture clear purple. I feel like that'd give me more swerve
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Nacho Maildrop on February 09, 2023, 10:21:40 AM
Back on Ventures (5.6 hollow) full time after many years on Indy and Ace. Should be good to run 54s with no risers right? I skate them stock and am assuming the washer will engage with the hanger before bite.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on February 09, 2023, 10:41:52 AM
Well I tried the 5.2 high v lights.. I must say that I have a prefence for the standards!

The trucks are really set back, wheelbase much larger than the raws, so a harder pop to control, especially for someone short like me .. yet I'm on a board with 14 wheelbase, but as I said pop is harder to control.. the board goes up much faster, I can't imagine that on a 14.25 or bigger..

No height difference, I measured both trucks next to each other.. and the weight difference is not significant..

I think lights and hollow are better on lows, but not highs! At least, that's my personal experience!

there is definitely a height difference between cast and forged. I found the pop feel between cast and forged to be pretty similar since the wheelbase with forged is slightly longer which makes the tail feel shorter. if your kicks are super mellow, than I suppose you would get a quicker pop on forged plates

I agree that the v lights are not significantly lighter than standards which is why when people Frankensteined their trucks before the v cast hollows came out, people tended to use Ti hangers or the v hollow hangers.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SupremePizza on February 09, 2023, 11:23:14 AM
Has anyone rode the loose conversion bushings in their ventures yet that could share how they are? Do they make the turn any better than the standard purples? More surfy? Do you ride them with the flat top washer or the standard one? Any info on how they are would be appreciated...thanks!

I've been running the shorter top bushing for a few months and I did find them more surfy/twitchy while still stable. While I like them more than stock there's been a few times where I wish I could get a bit more turn out of them if that makes sense. I have them a turn looser than nut flush and was thinking of trying the supercush bushings in the bottom
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 09, 2023, 12:12:07 PM
Back on Ventures (5.6 hollow) full time after many years on Indy and Ace. Should be good to run 54s with no risers right? I skate them stock and am assuming the washer will engage with the hanger before bite.

I’d guess yes (I keep it 53 and below, but I’m about to set up my 5.2 HI’s/forged baseplates with 54, classics).

Welcome back to cool looking trucks and better pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on February 09, 2023, 11:39:48 PM
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Well I tried the 5.2 high v lights.. I must say that I have a prefence for the standards!

The trucks are really set back, wheelbase much larger than the raws, so a harder pop to control, especially for someone short like me .. yet I'm on a board with 14 wheelbase, but as I said pop is harder to control.. the board goes up much faster, I can't imagine that on a 14.25 or bigger..

No height difference, I measured both trucks next to each other.. and the weight difference is not significant..

I think lights and hollow are better on lows, but not highs! At least, that's my personal experience!
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there is definitely a height difference between cast and forged. I found the pop feel between cast and forged to be pretty similar since the wheelbase with forged is slightly longer which makes the tail feel shorter. if your kicks are super mellow, than I suppose you would get a quicker pop on forged plates

I agree that the v lights are not significantly lighter than standards which is why when people Frankensteined their trucks before the v cast hollows came out, people tended to use Ti hangers or the v hollow hangers.

Yes ! ;) and as I said, on V lights I have a lot of trouble with pop and timing! The board goes too high and some tricks I have to lift my legs very high ! Like I said, maybe because I'm small and I have small legs haha

And I don't know.. the feel of the ventures raws is so.. unique, I like to feel my board and a soft pop.. And I think to myself, maybe all these v lights/Hollows are finally just crap marketing .. 20 years ago nobody thought about the weight of trucks ..Well I skate 8.00, so I don't necessarily have the heaviest board..  ;D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 09, 2023, 11:42:48 PM
Do you feel any difference with smiths on lo‘s?
Only concern I have.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 10, 2023, 02:24:15 AM
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Back on Ventures (5.6 hollow) full time after many years on Indy and Ace. Should be good to run 54s with no risers right? I skate them stock and am assuming the washer will engage with the hanger before bite.
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I’d guess yes (I keep it 53 and below, but I’m about to set up my 5.2 HI’s/forged baseplates with 54, classics).

Welcome back to cool looking trucks and better pop.
cant recommend wheels any bigger than 56 with forged plates
the turn to wheelbite ratio gets a lot worse with bigger rims
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on February 10, 2023, 03:37:46 AM
https://www.elementbrand.com/raw-skateboard-trucks-821301146279.html#cgid=skate_accessories_trucks&start=8&hitcount=8

the tiny element trucks are $15 which is pretty cheap considering that bushings are like $10 usually? if anyone likes very loose trucks then i definitely recommend trying those bushings on ventures. you can put the 4.75 trucks on a freestyle board on something but it's really worth it for the bushings alone, i never thought ventures could be this surfy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Nacho Maildrop on February 10, 2023, 06:49:49 AM
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Back on Ventures (5.6 hollow) full time after many years on Indy and Ace. Should be good to run 54s with no risers right? I skate them stock and am assuming the washer will engage with the hanger before bite.
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I’d guess yes (I keep it 53 and below, but I’m about to set up my 5.2 HI’s/forged baseplates with 54, classics).

Welcome back to cool looking trucks and better pop.
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cant recommend wheels any bigger than 56 with forged plates
the turn to wheelbite ratio gets a lot worse with bigger rims

Thanks both. Right now I'm not trying to go over 54mm, been feeling a lower setup for sure.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 10, 2023, 11:14:57 AM
54 should be fine……even if you wheelbite, it’s an angle where you don’t get pitched…..

If the turn isn’t to your liking, ditch the top washer, switch to conical, softer bushings, change out the pivot cups.. in all it’s not a bad turning radius.  It’s a comfortable truck once you get it to your liking…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Nacho Maildrop on February 10, 2023, 11:48:58 AM
Had a quick lunch break session and no bite. Also swapped the bushings for some old green supercush, which somehow feel softer and more responsive than stock. Very into being able to rock wide 54s on a 52mm truck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on February 10, 2023, 04:03:28 PM
I setup a really flat 8.38/14.25/31.9 deck on some Venture 5.8s and 52mm wheels. Had been skating forged Indy 149s before, but I think Ventures suit my skating better.

The stability while still being able to ride loose is great for me. I just put a Bones flat washer on top, and even skating in 32-40° weather they turn totally fine even in a small park.

They yield a much better pop and pinch than Indy's for me. I think I'm going to stick with these 5.8s for a few decks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on February 11, 2023, 09:38:12 PM
hope v-cast 5.6 polished come out. I could frankenstein the 5.8 teds with some 5.6 v-hollow axles but then I’m buying 2 trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on February 12, 2023, 04:51:10 AM
 Are the v-hollows and v-lights the same height as standard venture hi (53.5)? Specifically the 5.6 and 5.8. tactics sizing says yes but on one of ben degros videos he was saying v hollows are a bit lower. Not sure which one is true or if that was just at that point in time he made that video. Thanks yall!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 12, 2023, 05:22:39 AM
Are the v-hollows and v-lights the same height as standard venture hi (53.5)? Specifically the 5.6 and 5.8. tactics sizing says yes but on one of ben degros videos he was saying v hollows are a bit lower. Not sure which one is true or if that was just at that point in time he made that video. Thanks yall!

First question = no.

The four styles are here (pic below from the Venture site) so anything with regular plates / standard are 53.5mm in height right through from 5.0 to 6.1, anything with forged plates are 52mm in height right through from 5.0 to 6.1 as well, unless you are talking about the smaller width lo versions.


Checking the pic again, the first "team editions" truck is the only one at normal 53.5mm height, the others in either V Light or V Hollow (or V ti) are lower at 52mm on the forged baseplates.

All hangers are normal height, or hi (unless they are marked as lo) with the only reason some are shown as hi, just to make sure they don't confuse the smaller sizes.

They only make lo in 5.0 and 5.2 which is where some confusion comes in.  The baseplates are the same, just the hanger is different.


* Sorry I sort of made a mess of that, but hopefully it all makes sense, basic height info below now too.



Venture (regular / hi hangers)

Team editions - 53.5mm
V-Light - 52mm
V-Hollow - 52mm
V-ti axle - 52mm



https://venturetrucks.net/


(https://www.venturetrucks.net/fall22/04-ve-fl22-d1-polished.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 12, 2023, 02:01:17 PM
according to rocklobster sig

Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82mm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 13, 2023, 10:03:31 AM
Have to ask again!

Are smith grinds with lo ventures a problem on ledges?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: swellbowed on February 13, 2023, 10:08:39 AM
Have to ask again!

Are smith grinds with lo ventures a problem on ledges?
Nick Matthews would probably say no, pretty sure he skates 5.2 Low's
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on February 13, 2023, 10:44:13 AM
I love skating 5.0 low on Hockey 8 the slight magic carpet makes flip tricks a dream

Really wanna try them on my baker mellow 8.125 but I'm afraid that's a step too far. The magic carpet would be ridiculous
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on February 13, 2023, 11:59:19 AM
I love skating 5.0 low on Hockey 8 the slight magic carpet makes flip tricks a dream

Really wanna try them on my baker mellow 8.125 but I'm afraid that's a step too far. The magic carpet would be ridiculous

5.0L's on an 8.25 is ridiculous magic carpeting (but fun), yours is in the acceptable range imo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: KookTheElder on February 13, 2023, 12:34:06 PM
5.0 lo’s on steeper and wider decks is a vibe for sure, it’s fun trying to get tech on a bigger deck from time to time. The los are just so stable and linear, they feel like wider trucks than the tiny little things that they are
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on February 14, 2023, 01:19:04 PM
John Dilo and Chandler Burton have pro trucks in the new Venture Spring '23 drop. Hoping to see a 5.6 polished v-cast hollow in the future drops
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 14, 2023, 01:54:11 PM
dilo (cast 5.6 & 5.8)
(https://i.ibb.co/vkYR807/A128-C68-D-6-FCA-48-A5-8849-76-CF6180-A35-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pdy5pYt)

burton (hollow 5.2hi & 5.6)
(https://i.ibb.co/M1J75Tf/78-E0156-C-555-F-483-F-8-C57-88-E1-F9-BDA56-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jwjDZKz)

if anyone gets a pair of the burtons and wants silver baseplates
hit my dms
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on February 14, 2023, 02:11:19 PM
dilo (cast 5.6 & 5.8)
(https://i.ibb.co/vkYR807/A128-C68-D-6-FCA-48-A5-8849-76-CF6180-A35-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pdy5pYt)

burton (hollow 5.2hi & 5.6)
(https://i.ibb.co/M1J75Tf/78-E0156-C-555-F-483-F-8-C57-88-E1-F9-BDA56-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jwjDZKz)

if anyone gets a pair of the burtons and wants silver baseplates
hit my dms

Those Chandler ones are hideous... I love them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Coldcut on February 14, 2023, 03:01:46 PM
Chandler deserves it and a sick colourway!

VHollows 5.8 standing in front of me, *try me*.
Made me some 1/16 Risers finaly:)


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 14, 2023, 11:29:45 PM
What weight do you prefer?

I want to get some lo‘s, but no idea if I should get v lights or hollows. I want lighter trucks, but not sure how light.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bill Salt on February 14, 2023, 11:36:58 PM
Why Ventures when ou can get Indys?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on February 14, 2023, 11:56:09 PM
Why Ventures when ou can get Indys?


Why Indy’s when ou can get Ventures?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on February 15, 2023, 01:07:11 AM
Why Ventures when ou can get Indys?

Off to UWTB with you, this isn't the place for gear bigots.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on February 15, 2023, 02:11:25 AM
Why Ventures when ou can get Indys?

Why anyone, anything, ever?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on February 15, 2023, 03:20:01 AM
I'm thinking of buying myself a baker or deathwish, my favorite brands and it's been a very long time since I rode them with Ventures.. Does it work with these trucks ? Wheelbase is 14.25, and many say Venture only works with a 14 wheelbase..

Come to think of it, when I was skating Venture and Baker a long time ago, I wasn't thinking about all those wheelbase settings or whatever.. fucking madness !  :-\

(And we see Bryan O'dwyer or John dilo during a period skating venture with Deathwish perfectly.. maybe it's all in the head..)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 15, 2023, 03:21:50 AM
ventures, especially the cast baseplate ones are perfectly fine on 14.25 and anyone who says otherwise is a weenie
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on February 15, 2023, 03:28:21 AM
ventures, especially the cast baseplate ones are perfectly fine on 14.25 and anyone who says otherwise is a weenie

I have two pairs, the venture polished and the V lights a little worn but had by a friend on occasion, do you think that the V lights on baker deck will work less well than the raw ones ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 15, 2023, 03:36:05 AM
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ventures, especially the cast baseplate ones are perfectly fine on 14.25 and anyone who says otherwise is a weenie
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I have two pairs, the venture polished and the V lights a little worn but had by a friend on occasion, do you think that the V lights on baker deck will work less well than the raw ones ?

Vlights extend the wheelbase even more so possibly, but depends on personal preference. I like the cast plates a little more on most boards usually
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on February 15, 2023, 04:05:37 AM
I'm thinking of buying myself a baker or deathwish, my favorite brands and it's been a very long time since I rode them with Ventures.. Does it work with these trucks ? Wheelbase is 14.25, and many say Venture only works with a 14 wheelbase..

Come to think of it, when I was skating Venture and Baker a long time ago, I wasn't thinking about all those wheelbase settings or whatever.. fucking madness !  :-\

(And we see Bryan O'dwyer or John dilo during a period skating venture with Deathwish perfectly.. maybe it's all in the head..)

Dilo skates Ventures on a 14.5” wheelbase and he seems to be doing ok. Chandler Burton skates them on a 14.69” wheelbase and he’s not doing too bad either. It all depends on your proportions and preferences.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 15, 2023, 04:40:06 AM
I was skating venture v lights on 14.25 wheelbase without a problem. Loved it.



Again my question:
Want to get lo‘s, but not sure if lights or hollows. What do you prefer and why?

I don’t want the basic heavy ones.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on February 15, 2023, 06:41:29 AM
Chandler colorway is sick.

I dont get the dilo tiger thing he keeps doing, does he just like tigers or something?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 15, 2023, 06:50:58 AM
I was skating venture v lights on 14.25 wheelbase without a problem. Loved it.



Again my question:
Want to get lo‘s, but not sure if lights or hollows. What do you prefer and why?

I don’t want the basic heavy ones.

For 5.2 LO I'd go with V-lights, V-hollows may get too light underfoot especially with an 8" deck (I'm assuming). Can't go wrong with either especially if the price difference isn't too great. 5.2 TI would be overkill.

Edit: Where do you guys stand on Venture bushings? My current pair of trucks have extremely seasoned bushings and the top ones have noticeable cracks on them, and I've had to tighten them in recent sessions. I've got some spares from the mountain of Venture trucks I've accumulated, thinking if I should stick to stock or try aftermarket ones. I've tried Bones medium on them, a bit too surfy for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 15, 2023, 07:36:38 AM
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I was skating venture v lights on 14.25 wheelbase without a problem. Loved it.



Again my question:
Want to get lo‘s, but not sure if lights or hollows. What do you prefer and why?

I don’t want the basic heavy ones.
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For 5.2 LO I'd go with V-lights, V-hollows may get too light underfoot especially with an 8" deck (I'm assuming). Can't go wrong with either especially if the price difference isn't too great. 5.2 TI would be overkill.

Edit: Where do you guys stand on Venture bushings? My current pair of trucks have extremely seasoned bushings and the top ones have noticeable cracks on them, and I've had to tighten them in recent sessions. I've got some spares from the mountain of Venture trucks I've accumulated, thinking if I should stick to stock or try aftermarket ones. I've tried Bones medium on them, a bit too surfy for me.

I just go stock, washers in. Full stock setup. Used to flat washer and bones and blah blah. Does JB Gillet look like he’s out there wriggling? No. Youness? No. Players are not out there on some slalom shit.

I like the bushings fine with the cracks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on February 15, 2023, 07:40:43 AM
I really like those chandler ones. between those, the ted ones, couple other ones they've done over the last year venture has had some sick special edition ones. I personally prefer just plain polished standards whatever I buy but I like those. kid me wants them and the ted ones.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TwisT on February 15, 2023, 07:46:04 AM
dilo (cast 5.6 & 5.8)
(https://i.ibb.co/vkYR807/A128-C68-D-6-FCA-48-A5-8849-76-CF6180-A35-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pdy5pYt)

burton (hollow 5.2hi & 5.6)
(https://i.ibb.co/M1J75Tf/78-E0156-C-555-F-483-F-8-C57-88-E1-F9-BDA56-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jwjDZKz)

if anyone gets a pair of the burtons and wants silver baseplates
hit my dms


Your first setup with either these will sick... everyone at the give you high 5's. It may even get you laid. The 2nd setup is fine. Maybe a power clash, but who the fuck cares right? By the 3rd setup you hate yourself and start questioning your life choices.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on February 15, 2023, 07:48:20 AM
By the 3rd setup you hate yourself and start questioning your life choices.

You aint wrong.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 15, 2023, 07:51:19 AM
I really like those chandler ones. between those, the ted ones, couple other ones they've done over the last year venture has had some sick special edition ones. I personally prefer just plain polished standards whatever I buy but I like those. kid me wants them and the ted ones.

Raw hangers with a touch of color from the baseplate is a classy move. I used to hate the gold eagle P-Rod ones from a few years ago, but the contrast looks good.

I just go stock, washers in. Full stock setup. Used to flat washer and bones and blah blah. Does JB Gillet look like he’s out there wriggling? No. Youness? No. Players are not out there on some slalom shit.

I like the bushings fine with the cracks.

Yeah that's what I thought, stock is boss.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on February 15, 2023, 08:25:48 AM
Is there any visual indication you can tell the difference between a Standard vs. Forged Baseplate? im assuming Team vs. Forged means same thing for Thunder?
Im guessing Team/Standard = non hollow, non lite, non pro model. your base model, standard, heaviest version of the truck. I see there may be some crossover here at least for Thunders that offer the standard plate with a special hangar.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 15, 2023, 08:40:27 AM
Is there any visual indication you can tell the difference between a Standard vs. Forged Baseplate? im assuming Team vs. Forged means same thing for Thunder?
Im guessing Team/Standard = non hollow, non lite, non pro model. your base model, standard, heaviest version of the truck. I see there may be some crossover here at least for Thunders that offer the standard plate with a special hangar.

Cast - thicker, plain bottom without all the laser etching, equivalent of Thunder Standard / Team and Indy Standard
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0jKTgUILCVk/T1OCxtrjITI/AAAAAAAAAgo/5XPbwzicULQ/s1600/IMG_0690.JPG)

Forged - thinner (1.5mm less), laser etching, equivalent of Thunder Lights / Hollow Lights and Indy Hollow Forged
(https://deckadenceskateboards.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/VE-ALTANGLE-FORGEDBASE_5e99e042-69c4-4941-8e06-11981626eed0.jpg)

The latest V-Cast have hollow kingpins, hollow axles and a standard cast baseplate, equivalent of Thunder Team Hollow Lights and Indy Hollows
(https://www.nativeskatestore.co.uk/images/venture-trucks-kader-pro-v-cast-hollow-5-6-skateboard-trucks-8-25-p62601-142098_image.jpg)

Standard refers to the basic model with solid kingpin, solid axle and cast baseplate, equivalent of Thunder Standard / Team and Indy Standard
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on February 15, 2023, 08:45:58 AM
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I was skating venture v lights on 14.25 wheelbase without a problem. Loved it.



Again my question:
Want to get lo‘s, but not sure if lights or hollows. What do you prefer and why?

I don’t want the basic heavy ones.
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For 5.2 LO I'd go with V-lights, V-hollows may get too light underfoot especially with an 8" deck (I'm assuming). Can't go wrong with either especially if the price difference isn't too great. 5.2 TI would be overkill.

+1 for the V-lights from me too, especially if you’re already skating V-lights in the hi’s. Hollow Lights are noticeably lighter and take some getting used too so it might throw you off by going lo and hollow light at once (that’s my experience anyway, I went hollow but went back to a solid axle and preferred it). But I’m back on v-light hi now anyway  ;D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 15, 2023, 09:00:39 AM
Just realized I’m skating v-hollows and not lights right now, but 8.5‘s.
Want to go a bit more back to the roots with an 8“ setup.

V-lights are cheaper here, but that’s not really a reason to get them over hollows.

Before the 8.5“ trucks I had 8“ high hollows on an 8.25 deck btw


Can I get some more opinions on lights vs hollows?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on February 15, 2023, 09:14:30 AM
Just get the standards. The cast baseplate makes em compatible with a wider range of boards.

They aren't heavy anyway, so no need to seek out lighter options unless you specifically want a lower truck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on February 15, 2023, 09:20:44 AM
Just realized I’m skating v-hollows and not lights right now, but 8.5‘s.
Want to go a bit more back to the roots with an 8“ setup.

V-lights are cheaper here, but that’s not really a reason to get them over hollows.

Before the 8.5“ trucks I had 8“ high hollows on an 8.25 deck btw


Can I get some more opinions on lights vs hollows?

If you're sizing down to 8", I wouldn't get the v-hollows since your overall setup will already be much lighter than your 8.5" setup. It could feel too light as mentioned above by @burner

You would save some money by getting the standard lows and using the forged plates from your 8.5 ventures btw instead of buying a pair of new v-lights. Then if that feels too light on an 8", at least you'll have the cast plates to swap in.
p.s. Daddy Ben Degros loves the heft of standard venture lows
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on February 15, 2023, 09:54:24 AM
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I'm thinking of buying myself a baker or deathwish, my favorite brands and it's been a very long time since I rode them with Ventures.. Does it work with these trucks ? Wheelbase is 14.25, and many say Venture only works with a 14 wheelbase..

Come to think of it, when I was skating Venture and Baker a long time ago, I wasn't thinking about all those wheelbase settings or whatever.. fucking madness !  :-\

(And we see Bryan O'dwyer or John dilo during a period skating venture with Deathwish perfectly.. maybe it's all in the head..)
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Dilo skates Ventures on a 14.5” wheelbase and he seems to be doing ok. Chandler Burton skates them on a 14.69” wheelbase and he’s not doing too bad either. It all depends on your proportions and preferences.

Thanks for your answer ! I'm going on a Baker 8.125 with the 5.25 High V light  I think it will be perfect and pretty much light (plus I also like having the board a little bigger than the trucks! Magic carpet  :P )
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 15, 2023, 10:07:46 AM
Honestly the wheelbase just bugs me mentally….if I’m having a bad day, I’ll look at my board and declare that it’s a fucking longboard!!  If you size down to an 8.125, with 5.25 it’ll be a nice light set up and functionally it won’t bug you.  I think it’ll give you a chance to skate an 8s more which should commonly have shorter wheelbases….

I’m on mindys now and when I look at my board, the trucks are in the right spot but I whine about the pop.  The extension of the wheelbase, I assume shortens the nose/tail, which is one of the key factors in the pop of ventures…..so short of buying boards with the perfect wheelbase, you can’t have it all….

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 15, 2023, 10:20:19 AM
I wouldn't describe Venture Lows as hefty, however, they have surprisingly good pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 15, 2023, 10:29:52 AM
Good call…I thought we were talking highs…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 15, 2023, 10:41:22 AM
Just ordered lo lights, cause they were really cheap.
Let’s see how I like the 8“ setup and if I stick to it or go back to a bit bigger decks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Justinshreds on February 15, 2023, 11:18:33 AM
Just ordered lo lights, cause they were really cheap.
Let’s see how I like the 8“ setup and if I stick to it or go back to a bit bigger decks.

Where did you get them? Been thinking of picking up a set.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: passtheish on February 15, 2023, 12:06:38 PM
dilo (cast 5.6 & 5.8)
(https://i.ibb.co/vkYR807/A128-C68-D-6-FCA-48-A5-8849-76-CF6180-A35-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pdy5pYt)

burton (hollow 5.2hi & 5.6)
(https://i.ibb.co/M1J75Tf/78-E0156-C-555-F-483-F-8-C57-88-E1-F9-BDA56-C.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jwjDZKz)

if anyone gets a pair of the burtons and wants silver baseplates
hit my dms
when are these gonna be in shops?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 15, 2023, 01:38:26 PM
I wouldn't describe Venture Lows as hefty, however, they have surprisingly good pop.

Heavier than you think.
I believe 5.0 lo’s weigh around 340 g or some shit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 15, 2023, 04:24:19 PM
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Just ordered lo lights, cause they were really cheap.
Let’s see how I like the 8“ setup and if I stick to it or go back to a bit bigger decks.
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Where did you get them? Been thinking of picking up a set.

Germany:)
Was the last pair anyway.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 15, 2023, 05:23:06 PM
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Well I tried the 5.2 high v lights.. I must say that I have a prefence for the standards!

The trucks are really set back, wheelbase much larger than the raws, so a harder pop to control, especially for someone short like me .. yet I'm on a board with 14 wheelbase, but as I said pop is harder to control.. the board goes up much faster, I can't imagine that on a 14.25 or bigger..

No height difference, I measured both trucks next to each other.. and the weight difference is not significant..

I think lights and hollow are better on lows, but not highs! At least, that's my personal experience!
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there is definitely a height difference between cast and forged. I found the pop feel between cast and forged to be pretty similar since the wheelbase with forged is slightly longer which makes the tail feel shorter. if your kicks are super mellow, than I suppose you would get a quicker pop on forged plates

I agree that the v lights are not significantly lighter than standards which is why when people Frankensteined their trucks before the v cast hollows came out, people tended to use Ti hangers or the v hollow hangers.
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Yes ! ;) and as I said, on V lights I have a lot of trouble with pop and timing! The board goes too high and some tricks I have to lift my legs very high ! Like I said, maybe because I'm small and I have small legs haha

And I don't know.. the feel of the ventures raws is so.. unique, I like to feel my board and a soft pop.. And I think to myself, maybe all these v lights/Hollows are finally just crap marketing .. 20 years ago nobody thought about the weight of trucks ..Well I skate 8.00, so I don't necessarily have the heaviest board..  ;D

I never thought of that before. I do have trouble jumping as high as my board a lot. If lows came in 5.6 I'd try switching but rn I need more truck than less pop on nollie flip variations.

I wonder if I rode a flatter board if I would be better at like little chipper nollie fs flips. The jump is the only thing stopping me from locking that one in. I usually land one foot on and in the fakie splits and call it a day.

Getting that trick is a life long dream too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 15, 2023, 06:05:21 PM
Is there any visual indication you can tell the difference between a Standard vs. Forged Baseplate? im assuming Team vs. Forged means same thing for Thunder?
Im guessing Team/Standard = non hollow, non lite, non pro model. your base model, standard, heaviest version of the truck. I see there may be some crossover here at least for Thunders that offer the standard plate with a special hangar.


* Edit - I didn't even see the last page / maybe hadn't loaded it from the last time I was online, so missed the post from @rocklobster which is really good showing all the relevant info.




To look at on a board, the forged baseplate is thinner and usually way more shiny than the cast plate, which is thicker and a more "normal" looking metal, usually same as the hanger in materials, when raw / polished / not painted.

To look at without being mounted, the forged plate has a lot more cut away indentation on the underside as well, whereas the cast plate is more solid right through.


The words "forged hollow" usually refer to the forged material baseplate and the hollow kingpin.

Standard, Team, or other words are more for the cast baseplates and regular kingpin and axles.


I did notice the new image for the stock polished products have the angle to show the height of the baseplates way better too, which I think has been intentional to help with things.

New white bushings on the ti axle trucks too.


https://venturetrucks.net/



(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring23/09-ve-sp23-d1-polished-photo.jpg)


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on February 15, 2023, 09:17:08 PM

You would save some money by getting the standard lows and using the forged plates from your 8.5 ventures btw instead of buying a pair of new v-lights. Then if that feels too light on an 8", at least you'll have the cast plates to swap in.

Underrated comment.

This is what I do, just buy the best sale Venture at the time, and then can mix and match to get what works best for the set up. I bought standard 5.2 lo, super cheap, then swapped out the cast for spare forged, making them v-lights. And then put the cast on some hollow lights 5.2 hi, so I got the weight saving hollow axle,  butalso the height/bulk of the cast plate (so the trucks are basically cast hollow, but I didn’t have to fork out for the hollow kingpin, which is basically irrelevant weight saving). Works for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 15, 2023, 09:29:36 PM
I thought the kingpin weight savings was higher than axle?

Hollow kingpin solid axle is weird to me. If you're saving weight go for it. And hollow axles are often stronger.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on February 15, 2023, 11:09:31 PM
Does Ben Degroes skate the low hollows?
He did a review on the hollows four years ago
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 16, 2023, 12:17:58 AM
Does Ben Degroes skate the low hollows?
He did a review on the hollows four years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35XoW4XC3IA

Yeah it was the 5.2 LO V-Hollow
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on February 16, 2023, 12:27:31 AM
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Does Ben Degroes skate the low hollows?
He did a review on the hollows four years ago
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35XoW4XC3IA

Yeah it was the 5.2 LO V-Hollow

Yeah, but I think the latest are just regular cast lo, no hollow anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJmlgMMTevE
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on February 16, 2023, 12:35:24 AM
I thought the kingpin weight savings was higher than axle?

Hollow kingpin solid axle is weird to me. If you're saving weight go for it. And hollow axles are often stronger.

feels like there'd be more weight saved from the axle than the kingpin, just because of width (even thought the kingpin in thicker) but I guess that also depends on the axle size, wider trucks would be even bigger weight saving with hollow. Do you know the weight of the v-cast hollows? Anyone? I thought I saw a post of the Kader (or Barrow) being weighed but now I can't find it. Anyone know the weight (any size will do).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on February 16, 2023, 01:36:20 AM
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Does Ben Degroes skate the low hollows?
He did a review on the hollows four years ago
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35XoW4XC3IA

Yeah it was the 5.2 LO V-Hollow
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Yeah, but I think the latest are just regular cast lo, no hollow anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJmlgMMTevE

There’s at least a hollow kingpin in the video thumbnail.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on February 16, 2023, 02:29:36 AM
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Does Ben Degroes skate the low hollows?
He did a review on the hollows four years ago
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35XoW4XC3IA

Yeah it was the 5.2 LO V-Hollow
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Yeah, but I think the latest are just regular cast lo, no hollow anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJmlgMMTevE
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There’s at least a hollow kingpin in the video thumbnail.

That's true.....but they're Indy Hollows. Ben switches over to Venture Lo at the end of the video, and says he'll stick with them to the axle, seems to be skating them in his most recent courthouse video.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 16, 2023, 06:05:46 AM
Yup regular Lo with the cast baseplate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on February 16, 2023, 06:27:15 AM
Thanks guys. I have determined mine are 5.2 Standard :) I think if I ever replace these I will try the 5.2 Lows and this will probably my go-to truck for 8-8.25" setups.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Creachteach on February 16, 2023, 07:44:37 AM
Hello Venture crowd.

I’m thinking about venturing into another truck brand for a streetier setup.
Have some noob questions for ya.

1. Which boards are good with Ventures? IE brands, dimensions and such. I’m looking at the 8.5” range. Do you prefer longer tails with ventures? I’m looking at boards with at least 14.5”.

2. What’s the biggest wheels you’ve run without risers? Big guys, please respong.
Am I completely off if I suspect 5.8 V-cast or teams would be fine with 53-54 mm wheels?

Final question:
3. What about bushings? Everyone says I run my Indy’s tight, but for me they’re carvey and surfs great. Just shy of 260 lbs/117 kg. Can they fit Bones, or are there some hard aftermarket’s?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on February 16, 2023, 07:46:11 AM
Hello Venture crowd.

I’m thinking about venturing into another truck brand for a streetier setup.
Have some noob questions for ya.

1. Which boards are good with Ventures? IE brands, dimensions and such. I’m looking at the 8.5” range. Do you prefer longer tails with ventures? I’m looking at boards with at least 14.5”.

2. What’s the biggest wheels you’ve run without risers? Big guys, please respong.
Am I completely off if I suspect 5.8 V-cast or teams would be fine with 53-54 mm wheels?

Final question:
3. What about bushings? Everyone says I run my Indy’s tight, but for me they’re carvey and surfs great. Just shy of 260 lbs/117 kg. Can they fit Bones, or are there some hard aftermarket’s?

If people think your indys are tight, you'll probably be fine with venture stock.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 16, 2023, 07:48:27 AM
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Hello Venture crowd.

I’m thinking about venturing into another truck brand for a streetier setup.
Have some noob questions for ya.

1. Which boards are good with Ventures? IE brands, dimensions and such. I’m looking at the 8.5” range. Do you prefer longer tails with ventures? I’m looking at boards with at least 14.5”.

2. What’s the biggest wheels you’ve run without risers? Big guys, please respong.
Am I completely off if I suspect 5.8 V-cast or teams would be fine with 53-54 mm wheels?

Final question:
3. What about bushings? Everyone says I run my Indy’s tight, but for me they’re carvey and surfs great. Just shy of 260 lbs/117 kg. Can they fit Bones, or are there some hard aftermarket’s?
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If people think your indys are tight, you'll probably be fine with venture stock.

For a board in that size, easily my favorite was the griffin gass shape, girl. Short tail.
With ventures, my popping foot is closer to the tip of the tail/nose (kick/whatever you are trying to blast off from).
I don’t fuck with big wheels.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 16, 2023, 08:12:49 AM
Hello Venture crowd.

I’m thinking about venturing into another truck brand for a streetier setup.
Have some noob questions for ya.

1. Which boards are good with Ventures? IE brands, dimensions and such. I’m looking at the 8.5” range. Do you prefer longer tails with ventures? I’m looking at boards with at least 14.5”.

2. What’s the biggest wheels you’ve run without risers? Big guys, please respong.
Am I completely off if I suspect 5.8 V-cast or teams would be fine with 53-54 mm wheels?

Final question:
3. What about bushings? Everyone says I run my Indy’s tight, but for me they’re carvey and surfs great. Just shy of 260 lbs/117 kg. Can they fit Bones, or are there some hard aftermarket’s?

1. I like a long board with a short wheelbase, ideally 14.25 or less but I'll live with 14.38 if the deck is longer than 32. Alien Workshop / Habitat decks pair nicely with Ventures, I like that the 8.25 / 8.5 have the same length (32.25) and wheelbase (14.25). The use a mix of BBS for pro boards and DSM for team boards, so check out the dimensions on their websites before buying.

2. 53-54mm are fine for me without risers, I don't ride any bigger but I'm a small Asian, so the bigger guys can chime in.

3. They fit Bones but stock feels the most stable for me, but I'd suspect you should go aftermarket Indy medium hard or hard if you're bigger. The stock ones start out stiff by break in within the first session.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on February 16, 2023, 08:45:55 AM
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Hello Venture crowd.

I’m thinking about venturing into another truck brand for a streetier setup.
Have some noob questions for ya.

1. Which boards are good with Ventures? IE brands, dimensions and such. I’m looking at the 8.5” range. Do you prefer longer tails with ventures? I’m looking at boards with at least 14.5”.

2. What’s the biggest wheels you’ve run without risers? Big guys, please respong.
Am I completely off if I suspect 5.8 V-cast or teams would be fine with 53-54 mm wheels?

Final question:
3. What about bushings? Everyone says I run my Indy’s tight, but for me they’re carvey and surfs great. Just shy of 260 lbs/117 kg. Can they fit Bones, or are there some hard aftermarket’s?
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1. I like a long board with a short wheelbase, ideally 14.25 or less but I'll live with 14.38 if the deck is longer than 32. Alien Workshop / Habitat decks pair nicely with Ventures, I like that the 8.25 / 8.5 have the same length (32.25) and wheelbase (14.25). The use a mix of BBS for pro boards and DSM for team boards, so check out the dimensions on their websites before buying.

2. 53-54mm are fine for me without risers, I don't ride any bigger but I'm a small Asian, so the bigger guys can chime in.

3. They fit Bones but stock feels the most stable for me, but I'd suspect you should go aftermarket Indy medium hard or hard if you're bigger. The stock ones start out stiff by break in within the first session.

1. I’m currently riding the 8.75 Quasi with V-light 5.8, I think it’s 14.5, it’s my second 8.75 quasi, it’s been great.

2. I’ve been riding 56mm f4 97a, no issues on the v-lights no risers, their down to 54mm now, no problems - stable and carve/turn good. I’m 6.2 200lbs.

3. Agree with @rocklobster - stock is good, bones just never felt right to me, now I stick with cylinder and it’s best. I crank them a down to a few threads showing in front, none/one in the back (Im a back foot stearer). And yeah, if needs swap out for harder aftermarket, even just the bottom bushing, that works for me, still can swerve but stable.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on February 16, 2023, 09:08:48 AM
anyone skate their ventures with Baker decks?  i cant believe it but i have never skated a Baker deck in my life and i'm 36.  i've been curious about the b2 shape, but really am open to whatever.  insight bros?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on February 16, 2023, 09:14:47 AM
I have an 8.475 OG shape that I first tried to ride on Indy Mids but the pop was anemic. I tried 5.8s on it, and it took it from unskateable to great.

I haven't skated the B2 shapes yet, but they would probably be great with Ventures with the longer lengths. I really want to try the 8.125 B2 on 5.6 Ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 16, 2023, 09:27:49 AM
I have an 8.475 OG shape that I first tried to ride on Indy Mids but the pop was anemic. I tried 5.8s on it, and it took it from unskateable to great.
My favorite combo of all time. That specific Baker size and shape plus 5.8s just feels so good. I also thought indys made the pop feel kinda off at times on that board, but with 5.8s it feels solid.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Creachteach on February 16, 2023, 09:46:03 AM

If people think your indys are tight, you'll probably be fine with venture stock.

Yeah, but I already run one pair on super hard yellows, and another on Bones Hard.
Will definitely give stock a chance, before fucking.

1. I like a long board with a short wheelbase, ideally 14.25 or less but I'll live with 14.38 if the deck is longer than 32. Alien Workshop / Habitat decks pair nicely with Ventures, I like that the 8.25 / 8.5 have the same length (32.25) and wheelbase (14.25). The use a mix of BBS for pro boards and DSM for team boards, so check out the dimensions on their websites before buying.

2. 53-54mm are fine for me without risers, I don't ride any bigger but I'm a small Asian, so the bigger guys can chime in.

3. They fit Bones but stock feels the most stable for me, but I'd suspect you should go aftermarket Indy medium hard or hard if you're bigger. The stock ones start out stiff by break in within the first session.

I’ll probably want a board that isn’t breaking 32.5”, as it’ll surpass my inseam. I’ll keep my eye out when shopping. Good answers all around.



1. I’m currently riding the 8.75 Quasi with V-light 5.8, I think it’s 14.5, it’s my second 8.75 quasi, it’s been great.

2. I’ve been riding 56mm f4 97a, no issues on the v-lights no risers, their down to 54mm now, no problems - stable and carve/turn good. I’m 6.2 200lbs.

3. Agree with @rocklobster - stock is good, bones just never felt right to me, now I stick with cylinder and it’s best. I crank them a down to a few threads showing in front, none/one in the back (Im a back foot stearer). And yeah, if needs swap out for harder aftermarket, even just the bottom bushing, that works for me, still can swerve but stable.

I’ll check out the quasis for sure.
I can’t run big wheels on my cast Indy’s. We’re the same height, im just much fatter.
I’ll try stock first, then harder aftermarket. I have 2-3 threads showing on both my set of Indy’s with 96a bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on February 16, 2023, 10:27:09 AM
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I have an 8.475 OG shape that I first tried to ride on Indy Mids but the pop was anemic. I tried 5.8s on it, and it took it from unskateable to great.
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My favorite combo of all time. That specific Baker size and shape plus 5.8s just feels so good. I also thought indys made the pop feel kinda off at times on that board, but with 5.8s it feels solid.

Can't wait to try my baker 8.125 OG shape with my ventures 5.2 high raws, or maybe with my second pair, the V-lights for a very responsive pop !

Your comments reassure me for the Baker and Venture combination  :D

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on February 16, 2023, 10:33:40 AM
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Does Ben Degroes skate the low hollows?
He did a review on the hollows four years ago
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35XoW4XC3IA

Yeah it was the 5.2 LO V-Hollow
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Yeah, but I think the latest are just regular cast lo, no hollow anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJmlgMMTevE
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There’s at least a hollow kingpin in the video thumbnail.
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That's true.....but they're Indy Hollows. Ben switches over to Venture Lo at the end of the video, and says he'll stick with them to the axle, seems to be skating them in his most recent courthouse video.

Haha, damn. I dunno how I didn’t pay any attention that those are Indys. I’ve even watched the video a while ago. I’ll get my coat…  :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on February 16, 2023, 12:20:42 PM
Just checking. I’ve had those dlx wood risers for a little over a year and they’re worn to shit. My local doesn’t have em anymore and was gonna grab some risers from the skate warehouse sale. What other risers sit flush with ventures?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TwisT on February 16, 2023, 12:22:48 PM
Just checking. I’ve had those dlx wood risers for a little over a year and they’re worn to shit. My local doesn’t have em anymore and was gonna grab some risers from the skate warehouse sale. What other risers sit flush with ventures?

pics when you get a chance. I'm curious how they look worn out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ourladyoftheflowers on February 16, 2023, 12:38:48 PM
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Just checking. I’ve had those dlx wood risers for a little over a year and they’re worn to shit. My local doesn’t have em anymore and was gonna grab some risers from the skate warehouse sale. What other risers sit flush with ventures?
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pics when you get a chance. I'm curious how they look worn out.

Too many nose and tail slides, I usually wear the baseplate to the pivot cup so the corners of the baseplates dig into the riser. Adore the risers but I broke a kingpin and didn’t have spare parts to Frankenstein so set up a fresh set and the corners front of the risers are so worn they don’t extend to the end of the baseplate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 16, 2023, 01:26:09 PM
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I have an 8.475 OG shape that I first tried to ride on Indy Mids but the pop was anemic. I tried 5.8s on it, and it took it from unskateable to great.
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My favorite combo of all time. That specific Baker size and shape plus 5.8s just feels so good. I also thought indys made the pop feel kinda off at times on that board, but with 5.8s it feels solid.

Was hoping you’d chime in, I remember this was your go to

Baker boards have always been good for me. Except I’m the boss’ age and sometimes felt a little silly. I’m of the age where I should not skate, or skate a more mature brand, idk. (The antwuan deck with the cuffs!? I had it. Fucked. Skated great tho).
The b16 shape was so sick, I would love one that was 8” ish, same shape. That c shape Reynolds was on looked sick, but I never saw one in real life.

I like ventures on all decks, but generally more mellow.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on February 16, 2023, 01:30:35 PM
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I have an 8.475 OG shape that I first tried to ride on Indy Mids but the pop was anemic. I tried 5.8s on it, and it took it from unskateable to great.
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My favorite combo of all time. That specific Baker size and shape plus 5.8s just feels so good. I also thought indys made the pop feel kinda off at times on that board, but with 5.8s it feels solid.
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Was hoping you’d chime in, I remember this was your go to

Baker boards have always been good for me. Except I’m the boss’ age and sometimes felt a little silly. I’m of the age where I should not skate, or skate a more mature brand, idk. (The antwuan deck with the cuffs!? I had it. Fucked. Skated great tho).
The b16 shape was so sick, I would love one that was 8” ish, same shape. That c shape Reynolds was on looked sick, but I never saw one in real life.

I like ventures on all decks, but generally more mellow.

What is exactly the B16 Shape ? I've always wondered that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 16, 2023, 03:56:02 PM
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If people think your indys are tight, you'll probably be fine with venture stock.
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Yeah, but I already run one pair on super hard yellows, and another on Bones Hard.
Will definitely give stock a chance, before fucking.

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1. I like a long board with a short wheelbase, ideally 14.25 or less but I'll live with 14.38 if the deck is longer than 32. Alien Workshop / Habitat decks pair nicely with Ventures, I like that the 8.25 / 8.5 have the same length (32.25) and wheelbase (14.25). The use a mix of BBS for pro boards and DSM for team boards, so check out the dimensions on their websites before buying.

2. 53-54mm are fine for me without risers, I don't ride any bigger but I'm a small Asian, so the bigger guys can chime in.

3. They fit Bones but stock feels the most stable for me, but I'd suspect you should go aftermarket Indy medium hard or hard if you're bigger. The stock ones start out stiff by break in within the first session.
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I’ll probably want a board that isn’t breaking 32.5”, as it’ll surpass my inseam. I’ll keep my eye out when shopping. Good answers all around.

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1. I’m currently riding the 8.75 Quasi with V-light 5.8, I think it’s 14.5, it’s my second 8.75 quasi, it’s been great.

2. I’ve been riding 56mm f4 97a, no issues on the v-lights no risers, their down to 54mm now, no problems - stable and carve/turn good. I’m 6.2 200lbs.

3. Agree with @rocklobster - stock is good, bones just never felt right to me, now I stick with cylinder and it’s best. I crank them a down to a few threads showing in front, none/one in the back (Im a back foot stearer). And yeah, if needs swap out for harder aftermarket, even just the bottom bushing, that works for me, still can swerve but stable.
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I’ll check out the quasis for sure.
I can’t run big wheels on my cast Indy’s. We’re the same height, im just much fatter.
I’ll try stock first, then harder aftermarket. I have 2-3 threads showing on both my set of Indy’s with 96a bushings.

I would just move the broken in Indy bushings over to the new trucks. Venture is the same size as Indy Genuine parts. The stocks are usually fine for everyone but here always Green Bait and Tackle if you want a clean classic look. They're 92 or 94a and they're the sick solid green.
Bait and Tackle seem to always hold up better than the stock bushings too.

... I ride a 58mm og classic and I recently started using a 3 ply riser just to have more sick green venture product under my feet. Without risers works fine with 58s and the cut bushing lowering kit.

 I need green pivot cups someday.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 16, 2023, 04:23:55 PM
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If people think your indys are tight, you'll probably be fine with venture stock.
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Yeah, but I already run one pair on super hard yellows, and another on Bones Hard.
Will definitely give stock a chance, before fucking.

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1. I like a long board with a short wheelbase, ideally 14.25 or less but I'll live with 14.38 if the deck is longer than 32. Alien Workshop / Habitat decks pair nicely with Ventures, I like that the 8.25 / 8.5 have the same length (32.25) and wheelbase (14.25). The use a mix of BBS for pro boards and DSM for team boards, so check out the dimensions on their websites before buying.

2. 53-54mm are fine for me without risers, I don't ride any bigger but I'm a small Asian, so the bigger guys can chime in.

3. They fit Bones but stock feels the most stable for me, but I'd suspect you should go aftermarket Indy medium hard or hard if you're bigger. The stock ones start out stiff by break in within the first session.
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I’ll probably want a board that isn’t breaking 32.5”, as it’ll surpass my inseam. I’ll keep my eye out when shopping. Good answers all around.

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1. I’m currently riding the 8.75 Quasi with V-light 5.8, I think it’s 14.5, it’s my second 8.75 quasi, it’s been great.

2. I’ve been riding 56mm f4 97a, no issues on the v-lights no risers, their down to 54mm now, no problems - stable and carve/turn good. I’m 6.2 200lbs.

3. Agree with @rocklobster - stock is good, bones just never felt right to me, now I stick with cylinder and it’s best. I crank them a down to a few threads showing in front, none/one in the back (Im a back foot stearer). And yeah, if needs swap out for harder aftermarket, even just the bottom bushing, that works for me, still can swerve but stable.
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I’ll check out the quasis for sure.
I can’t run big wheels on my cast Indy’s. We’re the same height, im just much fatter.
I’ll try stock first, then harder aftermarket. I have 2-3 threads showing on both my set of Indy’s with 96a bushings.
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I would just move the broken in Indy bushings over to the new trucks. Venture is the same size as Indy Genuine parts. The stocks are usually fine for everyone but here always Green Bait and Tackle if you want a clean classic look. They're 92 or 94a and they're the sick solid green.
Bait and Tackle seem to always hold up better than the stock bushings too.

... I ride a 58mm og classic and I recently started using a 3 ply riser just to have more sick green venture product under my feet. Without risers works fine with 58s and the cut bushing lowering kit.

 I need green pivot cups someday.


Oooooooof green pivots are so nice! Day dreaming of some Shao type of shit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on February 16, 2023, 07:30:21 PM
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If people think your indys are tight, you'll probably be fine with venture stock.
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Yeah, but I already run one pair on super hard yellows, and another on Bones Hard.
Will definitely give stock a chance, before fucking.

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1. I like a long board with a short wheelbase, ideally 14.25 or less but I'll live with 14.38 if the deck is longer than 32. Alien Workshop / Habitat decks pair nicely with Ventures, I like that the 8.25 / 8.5 have the same length (32.25) and wheelbase (14.25). The use a mix of BBS for pro boards and DSM for team boards, so check out the dimensions on their websites before buying.

2. 53-54mm are fine for me without risers, I don't ride any bigger but I'm a small Asian, so the bigger guys can chime in.

3. They fit Bones but stock feels the most stable for me, but I'd suspect you should go aftermarket Indy medium hard or hard if you're bigger. The stock ones start out stiff by break in within the first session.
[close]

I’ll probably want a board that isn’t breaking 32.5”, as it’ll surpass my inseam. I’ll keep my eye out when shopping. Good answers all around.

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1. I’m currently riding the 8.75 Quasi with V-light 5.8, I think it’s 14.5, it’s my second 8.75 quasi, it’s been great.

2. I’ve been riding 56mm f4 97a, no issues on the v-lights no risers, their down to 54mm now, no problems - stable and carve/turn good. I’m 6.2 200lbs.

3. Agree with @rocklobster - stock is good, bones just never felt right to me, now I stick with cylinder and it’s best. I crank them a down to a few threads showing in front, none/one in the back (Im a back foot stearer). And yeah, if needs swap out for harder aftermarket, even just the bottom bushing, that works for me, still can swerve but stable.
[close]

I’ll check out the quasis for sure.
I can’t run big wheels on my cast Indy’s. We’re the same height, im just much fatter.
I’ll try stock first, then harder aftermarket. I have 2-3 threads showing on both my set of Indy’s with 96a bushings.
[close]

I would just move the broken in Indy bushings over to the new trucks. Venture is the same size as Indy Genuine parts. The stocks are usually fine for everyone but here always Green Bait and Tackle if you want a clean classic look. They're 92 or 94a and they're the sick solid green.
Bait and Tackle seem to always hold up better than the stock bushings too.

... I ride a 58mm og classic and I recently started using a 3 ply riser just to have more sick green venture product under my feet. Without risers works fine with 58s and the cut bushing lowering kit.

 I need green pivot cups someday.
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Oooooooof green pivots are so nice! Day dreaming of some Shao type of shit

They’re a lighter green, but still Riptides ride and look great in Venture, works for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 16, 2023, 08:43:36 PM
35th ave x venture
5.2, 5.6, 5.8 hi
(https://i.ibb.co/xHLS9gc/3-E463296-BC02-4-AA3-A73-E-96-FA55649-D21.jpg) (https://ibb.co/16QfyXp)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 16, 2023, 08:53:00 PM
35th ave x venture
5.2, 5.6, 5.8 hi
(https://i.ibb.co/xHLS9gc/3-E463296-BC02-4-AA3-A73-E-96-FA55649-D21.jpg) (https://ibb.co/16QfyXp)

Top top shop

Those look nice
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on February 16, 2023, 09:13:23 PM
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35th ave x venture
5.2, 5.6, 5.8 hi
(https://i.ibb.co/xHLS9gc/3-E463296-BC02-4-AA3-A73-E-96-FA55649-D21.jpg) (https://ibb.co/16QfyXp)
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Top top shop

Those look nice

Wow - love that British racing green baseplate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 16, 2023, 09:42:39 PM
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Those green bushings are definitely a hit too.


https://venturetrucks.net/videos/venture-x-35th-ave/


(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring23/ve-35th-ave-feature-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on February 17, 2023, 12:14:21 AM
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I thought the kingpin weight savings was higher than axle?

Hollow kingpin solid axle is weird to me. If you're saving weight go for it. And hollow axles are often stronger.
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feels like there'd be more weight saved from the axle than the kingpin, just because of width (even thought the kingpin in thicker) but I guess that also depends on the axle size, wider trucks would be even bigger weight saving with hollow. Do you know the weight of the v-cast hollows? Anyone? I thought I saw a post of the Kader (or Barrow) being weighed but now I can't find it. Anyone know the weight (any size will do).

Just following up on this, out of my own interest, I crunched some numbers to see weight saving of cast Venture with hollow axle (but solid kingpin). I used the weights on Tactics, and just did it for standard 5.2 hi. And also I have v-light,hollow,standard in the 5.2 hi, so I can switch things up to try stuff.
Standard 5.2 hi are 360.9g, and by swapping out the hangers for hollows that number goes down to 343.9g. I reckon that’s a good saving to reduce weight but keep cast feeling, wb and height, considering v-light 5.2 are only 3g lighter at 340.8g. I don’t know how much weight reduction is just the hollow king pin in the v-cast hollow, but surely that’s fuck all, and these are basically cast hollow. I like my trucks under 350g, just make a difference to getting up and flips, so this hack for castes really worked for me (working with the trucks i had).

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on February 17, 2023, 08:38:27 AM
does it feel like the tail hits the floor way sooner on the low versions? or is it not really that much of a difference?
I actually really like the height of 53mm it seems pretty perfect - i think every truck brand makes a truck in this height. why do we want to go so low? more stability? will it affect the grinds / slides at all? I feel really happy with the stability and grind / slide action currently, but maybe it can be even better. lol I am back on this 8" setup and everything is just coming up to my feet perfectly after riding beast boards for the past year. I am on a VERY mellow kick / concave board. its an older Paul Shier Isle deck, its really nice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 17, 2023, 10:01:04 AM
I think being close to the ground makes you think you can do shit…..too bad I can’t. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 17, 2023, 11:17:23 AM
does it feel like the tail hits the floor way sooner on the low versions? or is it not really that much of a difference?
I actually really like the height of 53mm it seems pretty perfect - i think every truck brand makes a truck in this height. why do we want to go so low? more stability? will it affect the grinds / slides at all? I feel really happy with the stability and grind / slide action currently, but maybe it can be even better. lol I am back on this 8" setup and everything is just coming up to my feet perfectly after riding beast boards for the past year. I am on a VERY mellow kick / concave board. its an older Paul Shier Isle deck, its really nice.

For me, lo trucks do hit quicker. Which I like.
Thinking back, the only setups o ever really liked Indy’s on were with 50mm wheels, negating some of their height.
5.2 lo’s are my favorite truck. Mellow boards are the shit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: standfast on February 17, 2023, 11:54:31 AM
I agree that lower trucks makes you feel more comfortable on the board, especially for those who aren't skating everyday. It helps get that sweet spot when you got things dialed down.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Creachteach on February 17, 2023, 01:20:34 PM
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If people think your indys are tight, you'll probably be fine with venture stock.
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Yeah, but I already run one pair on super hard yellows, and another on Bones Hard.
Will definitely give stock a chance, before fucking.

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1. I like a long board with a short wheelbase, ideally 14.25 or less but I'll live with 14.38 if the deck is longer than 32. Alien Workshop / Habitat decks pair nicely with Ventures, I like that the 8.25 / 8.5 have the same length (32.25) and wheelbase (14.25). The use a mix of BBS for pro boards and DSM for team boards, so check out the dimensions on their websites before buying.

2. 53-54mm are fine for me without risers, I don't ride any bigger but I'm a small Asian, so the bigger guys can chime in.

3. They fit Bones but stock feels the most stable for me, but I'd suspect you should go aftermarket Indy medium hard or hard if you're bigger. The stock ones start out stiff by break in within the first session.
[close]

I’ll probably want a board that isn’t breaking 32.5”, as it’ll surpass my inseam. I’ll keep my eye out when shopping. Good answers all around.

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1. I’m currently riding the 8.75 Quasi with V-light 5.8, I think it’s 14.5, it’s my second 8.75 quasi, it’s been great.

2. I’ve been riding 56mm f4 97a, no issues on the v-lights no risers, their down to 54mm now, no problems - stable and carve/turn good. I’m 6.2 200lbs.

3. Agree with @rocklobster - stock is good, bones just never felt right to me, now I stick with cylinder and it’s best. I crank them a down to a few threads showing in front, none/one in the back (Im a back foot stearer). And yeah, if needs swap out for harder aftermarket, even just the bottom bushing, that works for me, still can swerve but stable.
[close]

I’ll check out the quasis for sure.
I can’t run big wheels on my cast Indy’s. We’re the same height, im just much fatter.
I’ll try stock first, then harder aftermarket. I have 2-3 threads showing on both my set of Indy’s with 96a bushings.
[close]

I would just move the broken in Indy bushings over to the new trucks. Venture is the same size as Indy Genuine parts. The stocks are usually fine for everyone but here always Green Bait and Tackle if you want a clean classic look. They're 92 or 94a and they're the sick solid green.
Bait and Tackle seem to always hold up better than the stock bushings too.

... I ride a 58mm og classic and I recently started using a 3 ply riser just to have more sick green venture product under my feet. Without risers works fine with 58s and the cut bushing lowering kit.

 I need green pivot cups someday.
Thanks man!

I’ll check out the Green bait and tackle. Looks like they’re 96a. Perfect. Don’t know when I’ll get this setup.
Thinking about 54mm on team standards, or 53mm on v-hollow. Might even go down 1 mm on each.
I have 57mm radials setup on cast Indy 169/9” board, for my transition needs. First couple of seshes I got ejected from wheel bites until I got it dialled.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on February 17, 2023, 03:35:55 PM
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If people think your indys are tight, you'll probably be fine with venture stock.
[close]

Yeah, but I already run one pair on super hard yellows, and another on Bones Hard.
Will definitely give stock a chance, before fucking.

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1. I like a long board with a short wheelbase, ideally 14.25 or less but I'll live with 14.38 if the deck is longer than 32. Alien Workshop / Habitat decks pair nicely with Ventures, I like that the 8.25 / 8.5 have the same length (32.25) and wheelbase (14.25). The use a mix of BBS for pro boards and DSM for team boards, so check out the dimensions on their websites before buying.

2. 53-54mm are fine for me without risers, I don't ride any bigger but I'm a small Asian, so the bigger guys can chime in.

3. They fit Bones but stock feels the most stable for me, but I'd suspect you should go aftermarket Indy medium hard or hard if you're bigger. The stock ones start out stiff by break in within the first session.
[close]

I’ll probably want a board that isn’t breaking 32.5”, as it’ll surpass my inseam. I’ll keep my eye out when shopping. Good answers all around.

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1. I’m currently riding the 8.75 Quasi with V-light 5.8, I think it’s 14.5, it’s my second 8.75 quasi, it’s been great.

2. I’ve been riding 56mm f4 97a, no issues on the v-lights no risers, their down to 54mm now, no problems - stable and carve/turn good. I’m 6.2 200lbs.

3. Agree with @rocklobster - stock is good, bones just never felt right to me, now I stick with cylinder and it’s best. I crank them a down to a few threads showing in front, none/one in the back (Im a back foot stearer). And yeah, if needs swap out for harder aftermarket, even just the bottom bushing, that works for me, still can swerve but stable.
[close]

I’ll check out the quasis for sure.
I can’t run big wheels on my cast Indy’s. We’re the same height, im just much fatter.
I’ll try stock first, then harder aftermarket. I have 2-3 threads showing on both my set of Indy’s with 96a bushings.
[close]

I would just move the broken in Indy bushings over to the new trucks. Venture is the same size as Indy Genuine parts. The stocks are usually fine for everyone but here always Green Bait and Tackle if you want a clean classic look. They're 92 or 94a and they're the sick solid green.
Bait and Tackle seem to always hold up better than the stock bushings too.

... I ride a 58mm og classic and I recently started using a 3 ply riser just to have more sick green venture product under my feet. Without risers works fine with 58s and the cut bushing lowering kit.

 I need green pivot cups someday.
[close]
Thanks man!

I’ll check out the Green bait and tackle. Looks like they’re 96a. Perfect. Don’t know when I’ll get this setup.
Thinking about 54mm on team standards, or 53mm on v-hollow. Might even go down 1 mm on each.
I have 57mm radials setup on cast Indy 169/9” board, for my transition needs. First couple of seshes I got ejected from wheel bites until I got it dialled.

Fun thing about Ventures is you can actually use the wheelbite like a friction brake if your wheels are hard enough. The geo tends not to automatically pitch you to the concrete like most other trucks.

I’ve been digging them on Quasi, Hockey, and lately a Black Eagle (5.6 Hi). I’ve ridden the 5.2 Lo on a few 8-inch decks recently (used to love them way back when) and they’re like I remember; stable, snappy, lots of fun, just not in quite the same way as the surfier trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 17, 2023, 07:10:23 PM
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If people think your indys are tight, you'll probably be fine with venture stock.
[close]

Yeah, but I already run one pair on super hard yellows, and another on Bones Hard.
Will definitely give stock a chance, before fucking.

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1. I like a long board with a short wheelbase, ideally 14.25 or less but I'll live with 14.38 if the deck is longer than 32. Alien Workshop / Habitat decks pair nicely with Ventures, I like that the 8.25 / 8.5 have the same length (32.25) and wheelbase (14.25). The use a mix of BBS for pro boards and DSM for team boards, so check out the dimensions on their websites before buying.

2. 53-54mm are fine for me without risers, I don't ride any bigger but I'm a small Asian, so the bigger guys can chime in.

3. They fit Bones but stock feels the most stable for me, but I'd suspect you should go aftermarket Indy medium hard or hard if you're bigger. The stock ones start out stiff by break in within the first session.
[close]

I’ll probably want a board that isn’t breaking 32.5”, as it’ll surpass my inseam. I’ll keep my eye out when shopping. Good answers all around.

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1. I’m currently riding the 8.75 Quasi with V-light 5.8, I think it’s 14.5, it’s my second 8.75 quasi, it’s been great.

2. I’ve been riding 56mm f4 97a, no issues on the v-lights no risers, their down to 54mm now, no problems - stable and carve/turn good. I’m 6.2 200lbs.

3. Agree with @rocklobster - stock is good, bones just never felt right to me, now I stick with cylinder and it’s best. I crank them a down to a few threads showing in front, none/one in the back (Im a back foot stearer). And yeah, if needs swap out for harder aftermarket, even just the bottom bushing, that works for me, still can swerve but stable.
[close]

I’ll check out the quasis for sure.
I can’t run big wheels on my cast Indy’s. We’re the same height, im just much fatter.
I’ll try stock first, then harder aftermarket. I have 2-3 threads showing on both my set of Indy’s with 96a bushings.
[close]

I would just move the broken in Indy bushings over to the new trucks. Venture is the same size as Indy Genuine parts. The stocks are usually fine for everyone but here always Green Bait and Tackle if you want a clean classic look. They're 92 or 94a and they're the sick solid green.
Bait and Tackle seem to always hold up better than the stock bushings too.

... I ride a 58mm og classic and I recently started using a 3 ply riser just to have more sick green venture product under my feet. Without risers works fine with 58s and the cut bushing lowering kit.

 I need green pivot cups someday.
[close]
Thanks man!

I’ll check out the Green bait and tackle. Looks like they’re 96a. Perfect. Don’t know when I’ll get this setup.
Thinking about 54mm on team standards, or 53mm on v-hollow. Might even go down 1 mm on each.
I have 57mm radials setup on cast Indy 169/9” board, for my transition needs. First couple of seshes I got ejected from wheel bites until I got it dialled.
[close]

Fun thing about Ventures is you can actually use the wheelbite like a friction brake if your wheels are hard enough. The geo tends not to automatically pitch you to the concrete like most other trucks.

I’ve been digging them on Quasi, Hockey, and lately a Black Eagle (5.6 Hi). I’ve ridden the 5.2 Lo on a few 8-inch decks recently (used to love them way back when) and they’re like I remember; stable, snappy, lots of fun, just not in quite the same way as the surfier trucks.

I always have a thirst, for deck recommendations with 5.2 lo’s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on February 17, 2023, 08:01:37 PM
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If people think your indys are tight, you'll probably be fine with venture stock.
[close]

Yeah, but I already run one pair on super hard yellows, and another on Bones Hard.
Will definitely give stock a chance, before fucking.

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1. I like a long board with a short wheelbase, ideally 14.25 or less but I'll live with 14.38 if the deck is longer than 32. Alien Workshop / Habitat decks pair nicely with Ventures, I like that the 8.25 / 8.5 have the same length (32.25) and wheelbase (14.25). The use a mix of BBS for pro boards and DSM for team boards, so check out the dimensions on their websites before buying.

2. 53-54mm are fine for me without risers, I don't ride any bigger but I'm a small Asian, so the bigger guys can chime in.

3. They fit Bones but stock feels the most stable for me, but I'd suspect you should go aftermarket Indy medium hard or hard if you're bigger. The stock ones start out stiff by break in within the first session.
[close]

I’ll probably want a board that isn’t breaking 32.5”, as it’ll surpass my inseam. I’ll keep my eye out when shopping. Good answers all around.

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1. I’m currently riding the 8.75 Quasi with V-light 5.8, I think it’s 14.5, it’s my second 8.75 quasi, it’s been great.

2. I’ve been riding 56mm f4 97a, no issues on the v-lights no risers, their down to 54mm now, no problems - stable and carve/turn good. I’m 6.2 200lbs.

3. Agree with @rocklobster - stock is good, bones just never felt right to me, now I stick with cylinder and it’s best. I crank them a down to a few threads showing in front, none/one in the back (Im a back foot stearer). And yeah, if needs swap out for harder aftermarket, even just the bottom bushing, that works for me, still can swerve but stable.
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I’ll check out the quasis for sure.
I can’t run big wheels on my cast Indy’s. We’re the same height, im just much fatter.
I’ll try stock first, then harder aftermarket. I have 2-3 threads showing on both my set of Indy’s with 96a bushings.
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I would just move the broken in Indy bushings over to the new trucks. Venture is the same size as Indy Genuine parts. The stocks are usually fine for everyone but here always Green Bait and Tackle if you want a clean classic look. They're 92 or 94a and they're the sick solid green.
Bait and Tackle seem to always hold up better than the stock bushings too.

... I ride a 58mm og classic and I recently started using a 3 ply riser just to have more sick green venture product under my feet. Without risers works fine with 58s and the cut bushing lowering kit.

 I need green pivot cups someday.
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Thanks man!

I’ll check out the Green bait and tackle. Looks like they’re 96a. Perfect. Don’t know when I’ll get this setup.
Thinking about 54mm on team standards, or 53mm on v-hollow. Might even go down 1 mm on each.
I have 57mm radials setup on cast Indy 169/9” board, for my transition needs. First couple of seshes I got ejected from wheel bites until I got it dialled.
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Fun thing about Ventures is you can actually use the wheelbite like a friction brake if your wheels are hard enough. The geo tends not to automatically pitch you to the concrete like most other trucks.

I’ve been digging them on Quasi, Hockey, and lately a Black Eagle (5.6 Hi). I’ve ridden the 5.2 Lo on a few 8-inch decks recently (used to love them way back when) and they’re like I remember; stable, snappy, lots of fun, just not in quite the same way as the surfier trucks.
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I always have a thirst, for deck recommendations with 5.2 lo’s.

I don’t like the way the Hockey 8.0 looks from above (very Band-Aid), but I think it’s pretty fun on the Lo if you like steep kicks but are too old to ride them on normal-height trucks like me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 18, 2023, 02:13:42 AM
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If people think your indys are tight, you'll probably be fine with venture stock.
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Yeah, but I already run one pair on super hard yellows, and another on Bones Hard.
Will definitely give stock a chance, before fucking.

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1. I like a long board with a short wheelbase, ideally 14.25 or less but I'll live with 14.38 if the deck is longer than 32. Alien Workshop / Habitat decks pair nicely with Ventures, I like that the 8.25 / 8.5 have the same length (32.25) and wheelbase (14.25). The use a mix of BBS for pro boards and DSM for team boards, so check out the dimensions on their websites before buying.

2. 53-54mm are fine for me without risers, I don't ride any bigger but I'm a small Asian, so the bigger guys can chime in.

3. They fit Bones but stock feels the most stable for me, but I'd suspect you should go aftermarket Indy medium hard or hard if you're bigger. The stock ones start out stiff by break in within the first session.
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I’ll probably want a board that isn’t breaking 32.5”, as it’ll surpass my inseam. I’ll keep my eye out when shopping. Good answers all around.

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1. I’m currently riding the 8.75 Quasi with V-light 5.8, I think it’s 14.5, it’s my second 8.75 quasi, it’s been great.

2. I’ve been riding 56mm f4 97a, no issues on the v-lights no risers, their down to 54mm now, no problems - stable and carve/turn good. I’m 6.2 200lbs.

3. Agree with @rocklobster - stock is good, bones just never felt right to me, now I stick with cylinder and it’s best. I crank them a down to a few threads showing in front, none/one in the back (Im a back foot stearer). And yeah, if needs swap out for harder aftermarket, even just the bottom bushing, that works for me, still can swerve but stable.
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I’ll check out the quasis for sure.
I can’t run big wheels on my cast Indy’s. We’re the same height, im just much fatter.
I’ll try stock first, then harder aftermarket. I have 2-3 threads showing on both my set of Indy’s with 96a bushings.
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I would just move the broken in Indy bushings over to the new trucks. Venture is the same size as Indy Genuine parts. The stocks are usually fine for everyone but here always Green Bait and Tackle if you want a clean classic look. They're 92 or 94a and they're the sick solid green.
Bait and Tackle seem to always hold up better than the stock bushings too.

... I ride a 58mm og classic and I recently started using a 3 ply riser just to have more sick green venture product under my feet. Without risers works fine with 58s and the cut bushing lowering kit.

 I need green pivot cups someday.
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Thanks man!

I’ll check out the Green bait and tackle. Looks like they’re 96a. Perfect. Don’t know when I’ll get this setup.
Thinking about 54mm on team standards, or 53mm on v-hollow. Might even go down 1 mm on each.
I have 57mm radials setup on cast Indy 169/9” board, for my transition needs. First couple of seshes I got ejected from wheel bites until I got it dialled.
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Fun thing about Ventures is you can actually use the wheelbite like a friction brake if your wheels are hard enough. The geo tends not to automatically pitch you to the concrete like most other trucks.

I’ve been digging them on Quasi, Hockey, and lately a Black Eagle (5.6 Hi). I’ve ridden the 5.2 Lo on a few 8-inch decks recently (used to love them way back when) and they’re like I remember; stable, snappy, lots of fun, just not in quite the same way as the surfier trucks.
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I always have a thirst, for deck recommendations with 5.2 lo’s.
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I don’t like the way the Hockey 8.0 looks from above (very Band-Aid), but I think it’s pretty fun on the Lo if you like steep kicks but are too old to ride them on normal-height trucks like me.

Interesting. Thank you. I am old.

I also do not like the way they look, I prefer the pointer shapes. I had only one fa from bbs and it was unrideable, for me, just so steep. I liked the ps stuff of course, but had a few duds (ps problems).

Thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on February 18, 2023, 04:28:22 AM
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Those green bushings are definitely a hit too.


https://venturetrucks.net/videos/venture-x-35th-ave/


(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring23/ve-35th-ave-feature-3.jpg)

ok i need these and a set of 40mm wheels and NMB bearings
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on February 18, 2023, 05:43:05 AM
6 more hours to get $30 Venture OG Polished Lows in 8".

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/dailydose.html
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 20, 2023, 02:02:28 PM
I think I've heard several people say that the venture 6.1s don't push out the wheelbase as much as 5.8s and below... is this actually true? (I see it here also: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0)

If so, is it the hanger or the baseplate thats causing it? Say I wanted the reduced wheelbase extension of 6.1 hollows, could I throw them on the cast plates of some 5.8s I have lying around?

Anyone skate the 6.1s and 5.8s before have any general opinions on the differences?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 20, 2023, 05:59:01 PM
I think I've heard several people say that the venture 6.1s don't push out the wheelbase as much as 5.8s and below... is this actually true? (I see it here also: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0)

If so, is it the hanger or the baseplate thats causing it? Say I wanted the reduced wheelbase extension of 6.1 hollows, could I throw them on the cast plates of some 5.8s I have lying around?

Anyone skate the 6.1s and 5.8s before have any general opinions on the differences?
all venture baseplates are the same geometry
the only difference is the construction: cast or forged
or the “new” plates with hollow kingpins

6.1s have different hangars
most likely to keep the venture feel with the added width
havent skated 5.8s since sizing up and wont go back

the real caveat is in the wheelbase changes
cast: +3.125 @ 53.09mm
forged: +3.25 @ 51.82mm
on average the cast ventures (5.2 - 5.8) add +3.25
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on February 20, 2023, 06:55:57 PM
A little context to a question I have:
I have been on 5.2 lows with 52mm wheels for two months.
Yesterday, I compared my boards tail height to my friends board.
He is on 5.2 highs with 56mm wheels

The tail heights were exactly the same, which surprised me. I figured my low trucks and 52s would have a lower tail so quicker pop than his highs with 56’s.
I’m riding a chocolate g008 8.0”, which I presumed is pretty mellow, and he was on a shop deck- I’m not sure of the wood manufacturer (central board shop Wausau, wi)
Now I want to get some 5.2 highs. Probably hollows.
My question is,
If I put riser pads on my lows, will they give a similar feel to the highs? Or do the high behave totally different from the lows? If it’s similar, I could try out how much I’d like the highs before I buy new trucks. Which is appealing to me because I’m trying to skate my product into the ground.

Thanks in advance!

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 20, 2023, 07:21:37 PM
A little context to a question I have:
I have been on 5.2 lows with 52mm wheels for two months.
Yesterday, I compared my boards tail height to my friends board.
He is on 5.2 highs with 56mm wheels

The tail heights were exactly the same, which surprised me. I figured my low trucks and 52s would have a lower tail so quicker pop than his highs with 56’s.
I’m riding a chocolate g008 8.0”, which I presumed is pretty mellow, and he was on a shop deck- I’m not sure of the wood manufacturer (central board shop Wausau, wi)
Now I want to get some 5.2 highs. Probably hollows.
My question is,
If I put riser pads on my lows, will they give a similar feel to the highs? Or do the high behave totally different from the lows? If it’s similar, I could try out how much I’d like the highs before I buy new trucks. Which is appealing to me because I’m trying to skate my product into the ground.

Thanks in advance!


Risers on lo’s: Different, but not bad.
 I’m not sure how you measured this, but it doesn’t sound correct.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 20, 2023, 08:49:06 PM
A little context to a question I have:
I have been on 5.2 lows with 52mm wheels for two months.
Yesterday, I compared my boards tail height to my friends board.
He is on 5.2 highs with 56mm wheels

The tail heights were exactly the same, which surprised me. I figured my low trucks and 52s would have a lower tail so quicker pop than his highs with 56’s.
I’m riding a chocolate g008 8.0”, which I presumed is pretty mellow, and he was on a shop deck- I’m not sure of the wood manufacturer (central board shop Wausau, wi)
Now I want to get some 5.2 highs. Probably hollows.
My question is,
If I put riser pads on my lows, will they give a similar feel to the highs? Or do the high behave totally different from the lows? If it’s similar, I could try out how much I’d like the highs before I buy new trucks. Which is appealing to me because I’m trying to skate my product into the ground.

Thanks in advance!

In order to compare pop angle you need to line both tails or noses against a wall and press them to the ground and compare the angle of the opposite end.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Creachteach on February 20, 2023, 09:35:34 PM
Using the water level in the iPhone “measuring” app is what I use.
(https://i.ibb.co/bgmqfGh/4-C3221-FD-72-A2-4-DFE-BE1-E-B0-C00-C577007.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bgmqfGh)
Picture of app-icon.
With this you can have a simple digital readout. Place the phone in the flat of the middle of the board, and then touch the tail to the floor.


(https://i.ibb.co/dkjwRkH/75384158-CF13-46-D8-A6-FC-A8-E7-F3-B5454-E.png) (https://ibb.co/dkjwRkH)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on February 21, 2023, 04:11:05 AM
Thanks for the replies @ok @LebowskisRug  @Creachteach , I didn’t think about measuring the angle, but I will try out the low’s with risers and the. Measure both our boards angles next time we skate together.
In honor of not wanting to buy more stuff I’m going to take a couple of kids at the school I work at slightly used completes. Free up some room on my end and pass along some fun for them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on February 21, 2023, 04:53:12 PM
I've been so happy on my 5.8/8.38 setup.

I am a total idiot though and caved on those $25 5.2 lows. I've always wanted a pair. Going to try em on an 8.0 Baker B2 with 50mm F4 classics.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 21, 2023, 06:38:52 PM
I've been so happy on my 5.8/8.38 setup.


Truth, loving 8.38s at the moment, stuck with Venture for close to a year too. #venturebless
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on February 21, 2023, 06:48:16 PM
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I've been so happy on my 5.8/8.38 setup.

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Truth, loving 8.38s at the moment, stuck with Venture for close to a year too. #venturebless

Yessir, AWAKE!

My goal is to skate these 5.8s for at least four boards before reassessing if I want to skate Indys again.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: big_kev_215 on February 21, 2023, 06:59:32 PM
I've been so happy on my 5.8/8.38 setup.

I am a total idiot though and caved on those $25 5.2 lows. I've always wanted a pair. Going to try em on an 8.0 Baker B2 with 50mm F4 classics.

5.8’s on an 8.38 is one of my favorite combos.  Im thinking about taking it down to 5.8’s on an 8.25 for my next setup…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FunnyBunny on February 21, 2023, 07:05:14 PM
So I just ordered a pair of 6.1’s and was curious about how people that ride wider trucks go about board wheel base.  Do you seek out shorter wheelbase boards which can be hard to find or do you just deal with it.  I’ll be setting them up on a 8.5 quasi with a 14.5 wheelbase to start with but we’ll see from there, I typically ride 8.75 to 8.5 boards and like 8.75 truck width but have typically rode Indy or aces where WB is a non issue.  Either way I’m excited to try something drastically different from what I’ve always been on.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on February 21, 2023, 07:08:29 PM
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I've been so happy on my 5.8/8.38 setup.

I am a total idiot though and caved on those $25 5.2 lows. I've always wanted a pair. Going to try em on an 8.0 Baker B2 with 50mm F4 classics.
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5.8’s on an 8.38 is one of my favorite combos.  Im thinking about taking it down to 5.8’s on an 8.25 for my next setup…

currently debating the same thing. Been running 5.8 on 8.38 and i like it alot. I have a few 8.25's on deck to skate next and trying to decide if i should run the 5.8s on them or get 5.6.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 21, 2023, 07:24:15 PM
So I just ordered a pair of 6.1’s and was curious about how people that ride wider trucks go about board wheel base.  Do you seek out shorter wheelbase boards which can be hard to find or do you just deal with it.  I’ll be setting them up on a 8.5 quasi with a 14.5 wheelbase to start with but we’ll see from there, I typically ride 8.75 to 8.5 boards and like 8.75 truck width but have typically rode Indy or aces where WB is a non issue.  Either way I’m excited to try something drastically different from what I’ve always been on.

Wider boards tend to be longer to offset the wider wheelbase, so I wouldn't worry about it for now. The less info you have the better it is for your skating to an extent. I'd just swap between forged / cast baseplates for shorter / longer WB, but max I'd tried for forged baseplates was 14.38 but with a 32.25 deck, loving it at the moment.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 21, 2023, 11:06:04 PM
I’m thinking about sizing down for this reason….even if dropping down a size doesn’t change the wheelbase much overall your board doesn’t feel like a longboard…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on February 22, 2023, 08:20:49 AM
Come to think of it, so venture v lights and hollow are considered mids trucks, right ?

No need for Venture to do mids so haha
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on February 22, 2023, 08:36:50 AM
i guess 55mm = hi
49mm = low
so even the cast plate at 53mm is not even really a "high" is it?

i am really starting to get my switch heelflips down because of 2 tiny adjustments i made. i always skated switch off the nose for some reason and it felt like it was hitting too late so i switched to the tail. i also moved my front foot back a tiny bit and voila! I can actually pop my switch heel every single try and land it upside down now. and i am doing them really high too, like almost as high as my normal heelflips. it feels like how it felt 20 years ago when first learned heelflips, i think its just a matter of time now and ill get them a bit better. i did maange to land about 6 or 7 in the session. just need to work out the details of getting it more consistent. i feel like i need to kick down a tiny bit more to let it flip a bit faster or something.

im thinking if i was to switch to lows, it would allow the tail to hit the floor a bit sooner, which would allow me to move my front foot up a tiny bit more and get a bit more stability. but i am not buying new trucks just for that lol i will ride these down to the axle and then when i replace these i will go low.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 22, 2023, 08:56:21 AM
I haven’t skated them but I actually think I could switch heel easier on hi’s….it’s the rollability of a hi, on a switch heel for my mid 90’s style it’s pressure and release….no flick….no pop….just jump…the pocket and the pressure do all the work….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 22, 2023, 09:20:51 AM
What 8.38s are you guys enjoying with Venture?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on February 22, 2023, 09:32:30 AM
I haven’t skated them but I actually think I could switch heel easier on hi’s….it’s the rollability of a hi, on a switch heel for my mid 90’s style it’s pressure and release….no flick….no pop….just jump…the pocket and the pressure do all the work….

i gotta try someone else's board lol its not exactly the most common setup tho
i think i gotta put my back foot in the pocket as well to help it, i am not doing it at all right now cause i dont do it for my regular heelflips
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 22, 2023, 05:13:47 PM
What 8.38s are you guys enjoying with Venture?

5.8 TI with forged baseplates, I like a wider truck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 22, 2023, 05:34:32 PM
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5.8 TI with forged baseplates, I like a wider truck.


I’m going to thunder a guess a wager that they meant which 8.38 decks you riding/liking, with those trucks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 22, 2023, 06:18:46 PM
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What 8.38s are you guys enjoying with Venture?
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5.8 TI with forged baseplates, I like a wider truck.
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I’m going to thunder a guess a wager that they meant which 8.38 decks you riding/liking, with those trucks

My bad, too early here and not enough coffee.

BBS wood between 32 - 32.25 long, 14 - 14.38 WB, medium to medium/steep kicks.

If BBS isn't available then Clutch, DSM then PS Stix for preferred wood.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 22, 2023, 06:24:19 PM
A little context to a question I have:
I have been on 5.2 lows with 52mm wheels for two months.
Yesterday, I compared my boards tail height to my friends board.
He is on 5.2 highs with 56mm wheels

The tail heights were exactly the same, which surprised me. I figured my low trucks and 52s would have a lower tail so quicker pop than his highs with 56’s.
I’m riding a chocolate g008 8.0”, which I presumed is pretty mellow, and he was on a shop deck- I’m not sure of the wood manufacturer (central board shop Wausau, wi)
Now I want to get some 5.2 highs. Probably hollows.
My question is,
If I put riser pads on my lows, will they give a similar feel to the highs? Or do the high behave totally different from the lows? If it’s similar, I could try out how much I’d like the highs before I buy new trucks. Which is appealing to me because I’m trying to skate my product into the ground.

Thanks in advance!

The age of the wood will contribute to this too
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on February 22, 2023, 06:34:10 PM
I’m coming back to venture after 2 months on Thunder.  To celebrate I’m buying a fresh set.  Thinking kaders.   An y reason to consider the Titanium’s ? I ride the 5.6 hi typically w 54mm wheels.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 22, 2023, 06:35:31 PM
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I've been so happy on my 5.8/8.38 setup.

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Truth, loving 8.38s at the moment, stuck with Venture for close to a year too. #venturebless

I went the other way. I'm on 5.8s 8.75. I second that blessed emotion.

I feel like nothing is better than venture.

I'm like

Venture
Ace
Thunder
Indy

I'm betting the 151 stage 4 is going to be #2. I just gotta cop someday.

I definitely think that about slappy too. Those two trucks will battle. If I could cop.

The future looks bright tho because the now is so dark. I keep my ventures with me always so I can have the light close by. My board rides shotgun. Sits in a basket at the grocery store. Hangs out under the table when I eat. I do impossibles in the pit at infest and get yelled at by my friend Jeff Wizard Security.

I apologized to Jeff and shook his hand with a hug because he's a homie and I don't want to upset him nor put my board in the office behind the bar.

I violated probation because I wouldn't let go of my board while in holding for a program. I got discharged and went straight to the next skate friendly program with a short stop over night at the motel for drugs and groups sex.

I moved to the south end from there. Good times good times.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on February 24, 2023, 08:06:02 PM
Just out of curiosity, anybody know which model Shanahan skates?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on February 25, 2023, 02:49:05 AM
What 8.38s are you guys enjoying with Venture?

Limosine Cyrus Bennett
No more board madness, it’s not too wide, not too narrow, nice and short wheelbase, trucks fit perrrrrfectly, can’t see myself switching from this setup ever really.

Happy days.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on February 25, 2023, 06:39:31 AM
Just out of curiosity, anybody know which model Shanahan skates?
I think he rides 5.2 lows. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 25, 2023, 06:40:35 AM
Just out of curiosity, anybody know which model Shanahan skates?

At some point, one of those now defunct ig accounts that detailed setups of the pros had something on him and I think he rode 8” board on 5.6 lights
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YeoWhattup on February 26, 2023, 07:25:22 PM
Anyone ride 6.1s on 8.5s? Do the bolts stick out?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on February 26, 2023, 07:28:05 PM
Anyone ride 6.1s on 8.5s? Do the bolts stick out?

I have in the past and it was absolutely fine, bolts didn’t stick out, I skated 6.1 on an 8.5 with 58mm conical fulls and i still couldn’t see anything sticking out. You can find quite a few examples of this set up from people on the set up thread 👍
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YeoWhattup on February 26, 2023, 07:51:29 PM
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Anyone ride 6.1s on 8.5s? Do the bolts stick out?
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I have in the past and it was absolutely fine, bolts didn’t stick out, I skated 6.1 on an 8.5 with 58mm conical fulls and i still couldn’t see anything sticking out. You can find quite a few examples of this set up from people on the set up thread 👍
Thank you!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on February 26, 2023, 08:28:43 PM
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Just out of curiosity, anybody know which model Shanahan skates?
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At some point, one of those now defunct ig accounts that detailed setups of the pros had something on him and I think he rode 8” board on 5.6 lights

Wow.  Interesting.  I would have figured he would be on 5.2.  Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 26, 2023, 08:47:43 PM
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Just out of curiosity, anybody know which model Shanahan skates?
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At some point, one of those now defunct ig accounts that detailed setups of the pros had something on him and I think he rode 8” board on 5.6 lights
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Wow.  Interesting.  I would have figured he would be on 5.2.  Thanks for the info.

That’s from my sketchball memory.
I find it very difficult to judge trucks sizes from footage. And I look at trucks more than stance. Which sucks. But it’s the first thing I notice.
There were a few pages ‘pro setups’ or something like that, on ig, and then they fizzled. I read all of em. I hope someone else picks up the torch
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 26, 2023, 10:04:47 PM
Dunno how to post it but Bobby Worrest said in an IG comment response he rides 5.2 Ted Barrow hollows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on February 26, 2023, 10:22:22 PM
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Anyone ride 6.1s on 8.5s? Do the bolts stick out?
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I have in the past and it was absolutely fine, bolts didn’t stick out, I skated 6.1 on an 8.5 with 58mm conical fulls and i still couldn’t see anything sticking out. You can find quite a few examples of this set up from people on the set up thread 👍
Is 8.5 board with 8.75 trucks the new 8.25 with 149s?

I think Chris Colbourn skates his board like that
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on February 27, 2023, 12:13:22 AM
Dunno how to post it but Bobby Worrest said in an IG comment response he rides 5.2 Ted Barrow hollows.

That's wild. I swear he stated somewhere he was on 5.6s. Wonder why he decided to size down.. Ishod influenced maybe?

*Edit with screenshot of comment on his latest IG post

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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on February 27, 2023, 01:28:37 AM
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Anyone ride 6.1s on 8.5s? Do the bolts stick out?
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I have in the past and it was absolutely fine, bolts didn’t stick out, I skated 6.1 on an 8.5 with 58mm conical fulls and i still couldn’t see anything sticking out. You can find quite a few examples of this set up from people on the set up thread 👍
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Is 8.5 board with 8.75 trucks the new 8.25 with 149s?

I think Chris Colbourn skates his board like that

I skate an 8.38 with 5.8 ventures, usually when the trucks are technically a bit wider than the bird it means that the wheels will sit absolutely perfectly flush with the edge of the board and I’ve always found that to be satisfying, when I ran 6.1 on an 8.5 it was the same thing :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on February 27, 2023, 06:29:03 AM
i just got myself an 8.625 OG baker deck that i was going to skate with my usual 5.8s.  i haveextra washers on the inside to help push the wheels out a bit, but i also have an unskated set of 6.1s.  what kind of changes in feel could i expect if i sized up the trucks?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on February 27, 2023, 06:39:10 AM
i just got myself an 8.625 OG baker deck that i was going to skate with my usual 5.8s.  i haveextra washers on the inside to help push the wheels out a bit, but i also have an unskated set of 6.1s.  what kind of changes in feel could i expect if i sized up the trucks?

Just more stable and more room for grinds, people will say that it affects your flip tricks but the difference is minimal, 6.1 are designed for 8.6 upwards. It feels fine!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on February 27, 2023, 06:51:06 AM
I hated wider trucks and noticed it with any trick that scooped. When you scoop a trick the truck is turning slightly and it takes a bit more effort. I went from 8.25 to 8.5 trucks and didn't notice the extra grinding room really and somehow got more wheel bite.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on February 27, 2023, 06:52:46 AM
i just got myself an 8.625 OG baker deck that i was going to skate with my usual 5.8s.  i haveextra washers on the inside to help push the wheels out a bit, but i also have an unskated set of 6.1s.  what kind of changes in feel could i expect if i sized up the trucks?

And there you go, already two completely different answers haha
Your best bet is to just try both seeing as you have them and make up your own mind.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FROTHY on February 27, 2023, 07:10:54 AM
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Just out of curiosity, anybody know which model Shanahan skates?
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At some point, one of those now defunct ig accounts that detailed setups of the pros had something on him and I think he rode 8” board on 5.6 lights
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Wow.  Interesting.  I would have figured he would be on 5.2.  Thanks for the info.
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That’s from my sketchball memory.
I find it very difficult to judge trucks sizes from footage. And I look at trucks more than stance. Which sucks. But it’s the first thing I notice.
There were a few pages ‘pro setups’ or something like that, on ig, and then they fizzled. I read all of em. I hope someone else picks up the torch

I asked Shanahan and he told me he rides 5.8s on a 8.06", but I'm pretty sure he meant 5.6s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 27, 2023, 07:11:29 AM
I hated wider trucks and noticed it with any trick that scooped. When you scoop a trick the truck is turning slightly and it takes a bit more effort. I went from 8.25 to 8.5 trucks and didn't notice the extra grinding room really and somehow got more wheel bite.

I’m general, this is where I fall as well.
Wider trucks definitely have more wheelbite, and sometimes that is desirable, aka pinch on grinds.
As Lebowski said, rotational flips got a sometimes very fucky for me, straight flips were good to great tho. Some grinds are maybe easier, but simple 50-50s are harder for me on wider trucks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YeoWhattup on February 27, 2023, 11:31:45 AM
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I hated wider trucks and noticed it with any trick that scooped. When you scoop a trick the truck is turning slightly and it takes a bit more effort. I went from 8.25 to 8.5 trucks and didn't notice the extra grinding room really and somehow got more wheel bite.
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I’m general, this is where I fall as well.
Wider trucks definitely have more wheelbite, and sometimes that is desirable, aka pinch on grinds.
As Lebowski said, rotational flips got a sometimes very fucky for me, straight flips were good to great tho. Some grinds are maybe easier, but simple 50-50s are harder for me on wider trucks

For me when the trucks are slightly smaller than the board it makes me have too much scoop for treflips, the wider trucks that sit flush with the rails help me get my scoop tricks off the ground more.

Definitely agree about rotating tricks, my nollie 180 flip tricks suffer from having wider trucks but I’m ok with that. Straight flip tricks feel so much better to me on wide trucks. Excited to try 6.1s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GT on February 27, 2023, 11:55:22 AM
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Just out of curiosity, anybody know which model Shanahan skates?
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At some point, one of those now defunct ig accounts that detailed setups of the pros had something on him and I think he rode 8” board on 5.6 lights
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Wow.  Interesting.  I would have figured he would be on 5.2.  Thanks for the info.
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That’s from my sketchball memory.
I find it very difficult to judge trucks sizes from footage. And I look at trucks more than stance. Which sucks. But it’s the first thing I notice.
There were a few pages ‘pro setups’ or something like that, on ig, and then they fizzled. I read all of em. I hope someone else picks up the torch
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I asked Shanahan and he told me he rides 5.8s on a 8.06", but I'm pretty sure he meant 5.6s.
5.8 ya I asked awhile back.
8-8.06 with 5.8s and 53-51
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on February 27, 2023, 12:02:44 PM
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Just out of curiosity, anybody know which model Shanahan skates?
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At some point, one of those now defunct ig accounts that detailed setups of the pros had something on him and I think he rode 8” board on 5.6 lights
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Wow.  Interesting.  I would have figured he would be on 5.2.  Thanks for the info.
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That’s from my sketchball memory.
I find it very difficult to judge trucks sizes from footage. And I look at trucks more than stance. Which sucks. But it’s the first thing I notice.
There were a few pages ‘pro setups’ or something like that, on ig, and then they fizzled. I read all of em. I hope someone else picks up the torch
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I asked Shanahan and he told me he rides 5.8s on a 8.06", but I'm pretty sure he meant 5.6s.
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5.8 ya I asked awhile back.
8-8.06 with 5.8s and 53-51
That’s like rocking 149s on an 8.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on February 27, 2023, 12:27:45 PM
hahaha damn responses all over!  appreciate the feedback as always guys, will skate it and follow up
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 27, 2023, 12:32:32 PM
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Just out of curiosity, anybody know which model Shanahan skates?
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At some point, one of those now defunct ig accounts that detailed setups of the pros had something on him and I think he rode 8” board on 5.6 lights
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Wow.  Interesting.  I would have figured he would be on 5.2.  Thanks for the info.
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That’s from my sketchball memory.
I find it very difficult to judge trucks sizes from footage. And I look at trucks more than stance. Which sucks. But it’s the first thing I notice.
There were a few pages ‘pro setups’ or something like that, on ig, and then they fizzled. I read all of em. I hope someone else picks up the torch
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I asked Shanahan and he told me he rides 5.8s on a 8.06", but I'm pretty sure he meant 5.6s.
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5.8 ya I asked awhile back.
8-8.06 with 5.8s and 53-51
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That’s like rocking 149s on an 8.

I mean maybe, but I feel like frothy has this correct. Cyril had a setup video with 149s on an 8…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pasta Monster on February 27, 2023, 12:47:01 PM
This makes me feel better about my 8” FA, Shape 1, flatground board with V-Lights in 5.6 Hi. It’s not as good of a combo as the gray eagle with 149ers.

When this flatground board is done, I’m putting them on an Ishod 8.3. Although I prefer Thunder, 5.6 on the Ishod/Bobby shape feels more satisfying than 148s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on March 02, 2023, 06:17:38 AM
i remember reading something about 6.1s being different from other ventures.  can anyone clarify that for me?  do they not push the wheelbase as far out?  is it just different geometry due to the size?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: backside_frontside on March 02, 2023, 06:24:05 AM
I love Venture as much as the next pal but 2020 was three years ago. We can't be ASLEEP in the past if we wanna be AWAKE in the now. Ya feel me? Venture 2023.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 02, 2023, 06:52:49 AM
I love Venture as much as the next pal but 2020 was three years ago. We can't be ASLEEP in the past if we wanna be AWAKE in the now. Ya feel me? Venture 2023.

Awake since 2020, not had a wink of sleep since
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on March 02, 2023, 08:00:21 AM
I love Venture as much as the next pal but 2020 was three years ago. We can't be ASLEEP in the past if we wanna be AWAKE in the now. Ya feel me? Venture 2023.

Not a venture dude, so feel free to discard this opinion, but

I think the "2020" in the name is kinda tight because it marks the resurgence of venture.

Y'all were asleep for a little while there in the 2010's

thankfully, you're all AWAKE again though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 02, 2023, 11:40:30 AM
I like venture 2020 because it takes some of the sting out of that year.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on March 02, 2023, 11:52:15 AM
I like venture 2020 because it takes some of the sting out of that year.

another solid point
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YeoWhattup on March 02, 2023, 02:19:03 PM
i remember reading something about 6.1s being different from other ventures.  can anyone clarify that for me?  do they not push the wheelbase as far out?  is it just different geometry due to the size?
I noticed when I was switching out the bushings of my new 6.1s that they are way bigger than normal venture bushings. I’m sure there’s other things that are different with these than other ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: art hellman on March 02, 2023, 03:40:23 PM
would also accept 'Venture March 18, 2019' as a thread title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azWJSAyb6T0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azWJSAyb6T0)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on March 02, 2023, 04:48:45 PM
would also accept 'Venture March 18, 2019' as a thread title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azWJSAyb6T0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azWJSAyb6T0)
you win. I created this thread because the previous venture ones were lacking. & Bobby had the part that woke people. Still watch it religiously
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 02, 2023, 04:58:52 PM
I think 2020 was the year when everyone started questioning their values (trucks)…….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: backside_frontside on March 02, 2023, 05:23:20 PM
would also accept 'Venture March 18, 2019' as a thread title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azWJSAyb6T0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azWJSAyb6T0)

You’re right this part is 100% what awoke me and made me start paying attention to Venture.

I just saw an opportunity to make a silly joke and posted it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FGO925 on March 04, 2023, 12:10:29 PM
Anyone know what Nick Matthews rides?
Seems like he rides lo’s in his footage. Just a guess but his board seems low, and a smaller gap between the wheels and deck which makes me think he possibly rides venture lo’s.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on March 04, 2023, 12:16:41 PM
Anyone know what Nick Matthews rides?
Seems like he rides lo’s in his footage. Just a guess but his board seems low, and a smaller gap between the wheels and deck which makes me think he possibly rides venture lo’s.
they look like lows to me also in his recent footy. Some ppl messaged him and he said 5.6 a few months back but they look like 5.2 lo’s to me and others
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mick on March 04, 2023, 03:48:26 PM
Anyone know what Nick Matthews rides?
Seems like he rides lo’s in his footage. Just a guess but his board seems low, and a smaller gap between the wheels and deck which makes me think he possibly rides venture lo’s.
8.06" Deck
5.2 Lows
52mm Spits
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 04, 2023, 05:32:39 PM
Well that makes perfect sense…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 04, 2023, 05:44:12 PM
Someone messaged him and he said lows, I messaged him and he said highs (and you could see in a bit of his footage) but it's obviously lows.

Also he has a lot of footage with the red F4 classics, which are 51 and with the green, which are 52, as well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 04, 2023, 06:24:51 PM
Venture low riders is there any way to make the trucks turn just a teeeeny bit more, or bite a little bit less and be more forgiving when you land off center?

I'm getting used to it and its manageable, but coming from indy 149s if I can make them just a little bit less rigid I'd be hyped. Running stock bushings. Forged plates too which probably doesn't help. Already waxed wheelbite bits
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on March 04, 2023, 07:52:59 PM
Venture low riders is there any way to make the trucks turn just a teeeeny bit more, or bite a little bit less and be more forgiving when you land off center?

I'm getting used to it and its manageable, but coming from indy 149s if I can make them just a little bit less rigid I'd be hyped. Running stock bushings. Forged plates too which probably doesn't help. Already waxed wheelbite bits
Cast plates or small risers would help quite a bit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on March 04, 2023, 09:15:08 PM
Venture low riders is there any way to make the trucks turn just a teeeeny bit more, or bite a little bit less and be more forgiving when you land off center?

I'm getting used to it and its manageable, but coming from indy 149s if I can make them just a little bit less rigid I'd be hyped. Running stock bushings. Forged plates too which probably doesn't help. Already waxed wheelbite bits

What size wheels are you riding? I put in work on some venture hollows lows a couple years back and had the same problem. I ended up throwing on some really worn down radial slims (didn't measure but they felt like 47 or 48mm ish) and using a bones flat washer up top. Still didn't turn quite as well as I liked, but it was definitely an improvement over stock and I even got a couple flip tricks back.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 04, 2023, 10:03:25 PM
I think the best solutions have been mentioned.

For me, 52 is about the limit with lo’s, and that’s using a cast plate. I’ve waxed wheel wells, tightened trucks, both help. Bones washer and smaller wheels gets a pretty good turn. I was actually surprised with how good of a turn, provided the wheels were small (50 and down).
For me, the way the board pops is worth it. And I’m also chasing the past, or something. Rough roads in a rainy environment (harsh pavement), have me trying setups with bigger wheels, but I always come back to the lo’s (or thunder 147s, which are just slightly taller). Walking to the spot isn’t so bad.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 05, 2023, 01:32:09 AM
Thanks everybody. Probably gonna just throw on some cast plates once I get some and get used to it. A little jarring sometimes but really not that bad if you expect it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on March 05, 2023, 04:52:55 AM
You could make homemade wheel wells with a dremmel?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: blahblah999 on March 05, 2023, 10:03:26 AM
Venture low riders is there any way to make the trucks turn just a teeeeny bit more, or bite a little bit less and be more forgiving when you land off center?

I'm getting used to it and its manageable, but coming from indy 149s if I can make them just a little bit less rigid I'd be hyped. Running stock bushings. Forged plates too which probably doesn't help. Already waxed wheelbite bits

What are the hardness of the stock bushings? How much do you weigh? Ventures aren't going to feel like Indys no matter what you do. BTW those low type Ventures have a design that goes back to the era of sub-50mm wheels.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FGO925 on March 05, 2023, 10:47:10 AM
v-hollow lows are truly fun as hell.
8.1 board on the 5.2’s, and so easy to flip. It’s funny that these are truly the lowest trucks available right now, being the forged plates and all. Turning is indeed terrible, yet actually exceeded my expectations just slightly. You really need to rock these pretty tight

 I have some old spitfires on that have probably worn from 53 down to ~48mm, and I actually feel like I would prefer bigger wheels. I wish I could find some 51mm f4 classics.

Still feels like a small toy compared to my usual setups.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BL0B on March 05, 2023, 02:21:05 PM
You could make homemade wheel wells with a dremmel?


they usually look pretty gross. try standing over each wheel, one at a time, and rubbing out your own wheel wells. i'll just ride around in circles, one foot over the wheel well/bite i'm working in, a little wax every now and then helps. your wheels look like shit but they wear back to normal quick.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tom Pearl on March 05, 2023, 05:53:38 PM
v-hollow lows are truly fun as hell.
8.1 board on the 5.2’s, and so easy to flip. It’s funny that these are truly the lowest trucks available right now, being the forged plates and all. Turning is indeed terrible, yet actually exceeded my expectations just slightly. You really need to rock these pretty tight

 I have some old spitfires on that have probably worn from 53 down to ~48mm, and I actually feel like I would prefer bigger wheels. I wish I could find some 51mm f4 classics.

Still feels like a small toy compared to my usual setups.


the drop has them but they're charging for shipping now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on March 05, 2023, 07:10:20 PM
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That’s true mine looked terrible lol.
I was riding 52s on my lows with stock bushings stock tightness and they weren’t bad

they usually look pretty gross. try standing over each wheel, one at a time, and rubbing out your own wheel wells. i'll just ride around in circles, one foot over the wheel well/bite i'm working in, a little wax every now and then helps. your wheels look like shit but they wear back to normal quick.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: swellbowed on March 05, 2023, 07:51:05 PM
v-hollow lows are truly fun as hell.
8.1 board on the 5.2’s, and so easy to flip. It’s funny that these are truly the lowest trucks available right now, being the forged plates and all. Turning is indeed terrible, yet actually exceeded my expectations just slightly. You really need to rock these pretty tight

 I have some old spitfires on that have probably worn from 53 down to ~48mm, and I actually feel like I would prefer bigger wheels. I wish I could find some 51mm f4 classics.

Still feels like a small toy compared to my usual setups.
https://mainlandskateandsurf.com/products/spitfire-f4-99-classic-51mm-wheels (https://mainlandskateandsurf.com/products/spitfire-f4-99-classic-51mm-wheels)

https://aptskateshop.com/products/spitfire-wheels-formula-4-classic-51mm-101a (https://aptskateshop.com/products/spitfire-wheels-formula-4-classic-51mm-101a)

https://www.303boards.com/products/spitfire-99-formula-4-camo-classic-wheels-51mm (https://www.303boards.com/products/spitfire-99-formula-4-camo-classic-wheels-51mm)

https://anchorsskateshop.com/products/spitfire-formula-four-classic-camo-red-wheels-51mm-99d (https://anchorsskateshop.com/products/spitfire-formula-four-classic-camo-red-wheels-51mm-99d)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on March 06, 2023, 01:27:08 PM
I’ve skated venture my whole life and that’s not going to change even after trying out most other trucks but I was wondering if anyone noticed that venture trucks seem to feel slower? Like the wheels spin fine but when actually skating they feel slow, how is this even possible?

 Does it have anything to do with lightness of hollows?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FUBAR on March 06, 2023, 04:23:58 PM
I just went from 5.8 V Lights to 5.8 Cast Hollows and they feel fine. Not sure if its in my head or not but I feel I skate better on these cast hollows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BL0B on March 06, 2023, 05:54:48 PM
I’ve skated venture my whole life and that’s not going to change even after trying out most other trucks but I was wondering if anyone noticed that venture trucks seem to feel slower? Like the wheels spin fine but when actually skating they feel slow, how is this even possible?

 Does it have anything to do with lightness of hollows?


it's the axle wings, they slow you down. j/k
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Spaced Cadet on March 07, 2023, 06:27:04 AM
If anyone has a set redrilled venture baseplates they are willing to part with let me know. I've been swapping between ace and venture until setting up some old Indys that feel just right. I was wondering if perhaps some redrilled venture plates would make the wheelbase closer to an Indy. Seems like dlx would sell a replacement shorter wheelbase baseplate if so many people want to transition from Indy and some of their riders are apparently already riding some.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 07, 2023, 07:07:23 AM
If anyone has a set redrilled venture baseplates they are willing to part with let me know. I've been swapping between ace and venture until setting up some old Indys that feel just right. I was wondering if perhaps some redrilled venture plates would make the wheelbase closer to an Indy. Seems like dlx would sell a replacement shorter wheelbase baseplate if so many people want to transition from Indy and some of their riders are apparently already riding some.

Koston wuddup
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Spaced Cadet on March 07, 2023, 10:24:56 AM
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If anyone has a set redrilled venture baseplates they are willing to part with let me know. I've been swapping between ace and venture until setting up some old Indys that feel just right. I was wondering if perhaps some redrilled venture plates would make the wheelbase closer to an Indy. Seems like dlx would sell a replacement shorter wheelbase baseplate if so many people want to transition from Indy and some of their riders are apparently already riding some.
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Koston wuddup

Gimme your trucks NOW!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 07, 2023, 10:28:14 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClEOqqSupjR/
for those who care to try it themselves, there's this tool you can use to modify your wheelbase
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 07, 2023, 06:05:42 PM
If anyone has a set redrilled venture baseplates they are willing to part with let me know. I've been swapping between ace and venture until setting up some old Indys that feel just right. I was wondering if perhaps some redrilled venture plates would make the wheelbase closer to an Indy. Seems like dlx would sell a replacement shorter wheelbase baseplate if so many people want to transition from Indy and some of their riders are apparently already riding some.


It is back in there somewhere, but I tried an older six hole baseplate just to see what it was like, using the other holes and just mounting two bolts and the difference was huge, given it is 3/8" on each truck if you do that method, you are bringing in the wheelbase 3/4" in total if you do both trucks, so just the back one was still plenty on the test board for me.

I would put that in the "special pro privileges" category, so although some of the guys who ride Venture get theirs pre drilled, people have said, I don't think anyone else can get their hands on them, so would have to drill out their own baseplates, which in turn makes it easier to drill in a board just for starters.


Overall it takes Venture from the longest wheelbase to the shortest wheelbase with even just doing one truck / the back truck, so doing both it comes in almost too much, but if you get used to it and enjoy it there, then I could see it being worthwhile to drill out the baseplates, more so than doing every deck you ride on regular plates.

That's my thinking anyway.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Spaced Cadet on March 07, 2023, 08:21:18 PM
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If anyone has a set redrilled venture baseplates they are willing to part with let me know. I've been swapping between ace and venture until setting up some old Indys that feel just right. I was wondering if perhaps some redrilled venture plates would make the wheelbase closer to an Indy. Seems like dlx would sell a replacement shorter wheelbase baseplate if so many people want to transition from Indy and some of their riders are apparently already riding some.
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It is back in there somewhere, but I tried an older six hole baseplate just to see what it was like, using the other holes and just mounting two bolts and the difference was huge, given it is 3/8" on each truck if you do that method, you are bringing in the wheelbase 3/4" in total if you do both trucks, so just the back one was still plenty on the test board for me.

I would put that in the "special pro privileges" category, so although some of the guys who ride Venture get theirs pre drilled, people have said, I don't think anyone else can get their hands on them, so would have to drill out their own baseplates, which in turn makes it easier to drill in a board just for starters.


Overall it takes Venture from the longest wheelbase to the shortest wheelbase with even just doing one truck / the back truck, so doing both it comes in almost too much, but if you get used to it and enjoy it there, then I could see it being worthwhile to drill out the baseplates, more so than doing every deck you ride on regular plates.

That's my thinking anyway.

Well obviously I'll just go pro then. Wish me luck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Landmine on March 08, 2023, 07:44:17 AM
I got some 6.1 V Hollows and they came with yellow bushings.  All the V Hollows I saw in the shop had purple bushings (didn't buy those b/c they didn't have the 6.1s I was after).  I'm guessing these are the same durometer as all the others, just a different color right?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 08, 2023, 08:06:51 AM
I got some 6.1 V Hollows and they came with yellow bushings.  All the V Hollows I saw in the shop had purple bushings (didn't buy those b/c they didn't have the 6.1s I was after).  I'm guessing these are the same durometer as all the others, just a different color right?
the stock durometer is the same in all sizes and that goes for all truck brands. people may have different experiences though but there are many factors that could change your perception like weather, bushings being fully broken in, how tight/loose you ride, etc
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: downtodevin on March 08, 2023, 08:23:01 AM
My madness is killing me and I’m thinking about setting up an 8 inch with 5.2 Lo’s. I’ve been on AF1 44s for a while and want something completely different. Any advice for a smaller setup with the low trucks? Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 08, 2023, 09:16:21 AM
My madness is killing me and I’m thinking about setting up an 8 inch with 5.2 Lo’s. I’ve been on AF1 44s for a while and want something completely different. Any advice for a smaller setup with the low trucks? Thanks!
Venture 5.2 Lo's will be a fun experiment and are well loved by many of the posters in this thread. Thunder 147's are great and they are low trucks sitting at 50mm.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on March 08, 2023, 10:24:20 AM
I skated my first session with My Ventures raws 5.25 High and my Baker 8.125.. PERFECT COMBO !!  :-* A real pleasure to ride, trucks a little smaller than the board, but so responsive and I feel like all the tricks come easier ! My madness is over ..  :D ;D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on March 08, 2023, 11:40:54 AM
I got some 6.1 V Hollows and they came with yellow bushings.  All the V Hollows I saw in the shop had purple bushings (didn't buy those b/c they didn't have the 6.1s I was after).  I'm guessing these are the same durometer as all the others, just a different color right?

always
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 09, 2023, 02:37:36 PM
Venture hollow lights (high) with 8.25 Alien Deck, 54 mm wheels for the first time today.

It was different. Pop feel really different. Heelflips still consistent, but often a bit more rocket than usual for example.

I skated a new knee-high (for smaller people thigh high) ledge today with that setup and realized that it’s really different. Pizza Deck before on those trucks and I had flips to mannie every try.
With the AWS I didn’t make it up the ledge the first four times and just didn’t get why. I then tried to pop like crazy and finally had a clean one.

I also was super tired after the session today; but maybe it was just one of those days. Had them before of course too.

I guess I will get used to it, right?




But I’ll ride a new complete soon anyways. 8“ AWS , Venuture lo lights, and I need to get wheels. 51mm? 52mm? What would you get? Got 53 mm spitfires here, but are they too big? Then I would just keep them for a future setup

Is the 8“ Alien deck just as steep? I think the tail is a good amount shorter than of the 8.25.
you think 8“ AWS goes good with Venture lo‘s?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Radim on March 10, 2023, 09:13:38 AM
I will skate as long Ventures will be produced.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on March 10, 2023, 09:40:44 AM
My madness is killing me and I’m thinking about setting up an 8 inch with 5.2 Lo’s. I’ve been on AF1 44s for a while and want something completely different. Any advice for a smaller setup with the low trucks? Thanks!

FWIW I made this exact switch and hated it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: downtodevin on March 10, 2023, 10:01:50 AM
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My madness is killing me and I’m thinking about setting up an 8 inch with 5.2 Lo’s. I’ve been on AF1 44s for a while and want something completely different. Any advice for a smaller setup with the low trucks? Thanks!
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FWIW I made this exact switch and hated it.

Anything specific you hated about it? Or just overall not good?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 10, 2023, 12:30:35 PM
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My madness is killing me and I’m thinking about setting up an 8 inch with 5.2 Lo’s. I’ve been on AF1 44s for a while and want something completely different. Any advice for a smaller setup with the low trucks? Thanks!
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FWIW I made this exact switch and hated it.
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Anything specific you hated about it? Or just overall not good?
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I skate different setups, one has af-1 44s, another 5.2 lo’s.
I think the first thing I notice is that the ace trucks turn a lot more, and can use a much larger wheel. As far as how that ‘helps’ my skating? I probably land more shit on the ventures, I like the pop better on the ventures (I’ve whined about this a bunch, I have a hard time with the pop on ace, may have figured it out a little better last night: move the popping foot closer to the truck, with ace. I’m an idiot.)
Anyways, for me, both are fun.
Caveat: I really like ventures. I want to like them, and I do. So I always make room for them. Not for everyone this
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: downtodevin on March 10, 2023, 02:02:31 PM
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My madness is killing me and I’m thinking about setting up an 8 inch with 5.2 Lo’s. I’ve been on AF1 44s for a while and want something completely different. Any advice for a smaller setup with the low trucks? Thanks!
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FWIW I made this exact switch and hated it.
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Anything specific you hated about it? Or just overall not good?
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I skate different setups, one has af-1 44s, another 5.2 lo’s.
I think the first thing I notice is that the ace trucks turn a lot more, and can use a much larger wheel. As far as how that ‘helps’ my skating? I probably land more shit on the ventures, I like the pop better on the ventures (I’ve whined about this a bunch, I have a hard time with the pop on ace, may have figured it out a little better last night: move the popping foot closer to the truck, with ace. I’m an idiot.)
Anyways, for me, both are fun.
Caveat: I really like ventures. I want to like them, and I do. So I always make room for them. Not for everyone this

Yeah I love my Aces and they turn great but I want more stability. That’s why I want to try the Lows. I think I’ll be able to land stuff more consistently with them. Or maybe I just suck and they won’t help.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 11, 2023, 06:53:08 AM
I’ll prolly get back on 5.6’s or even 5.2 hi’s…..5.6’s were the most flippable truck for me.  I’ve skated 8.25 trucks for awhile now, I sized up because I felt finding boards less than that were hard to find but now it feels like 8.125’s and 8’s are more common than 5-6 years ago….I’m on Mindys now and they feel great, ie. lower, wheelbase proper, grind well….but a lot of the components don’t actually help me, I just like the idea of them…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FGO925 on March 11, 2023, 11:13:30 AM
Anyone else ride ventures with steep concave like  FA decks? It’s not my main setup but I think I’ve seen people say they prefer more flat mellow concaves on ventures, yet this has been super fun to ride.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on March 11, 2023, 11:36:29 AM
Anyone else ride ventures with steep concave like  FA decks? It’s not my main setup but I think I’ve seen people say they prefer more flat mellow concaves on ventures, yet this has been super fun to ride.

I skated 5.2 lows on an 8.18 hockey deck and it was amazing for flatground!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DeepSpace9mm on March 11, 2023, 02:47:13 PM
6.1 riders what’s your go to deck ?
I haven’t spent much time on Ventures but
I just picked got some (6.1’s). I’m looking at some 8.5-8.75 Alien and Quasi decks. Also the Metal egg 9.0 and Quasi egg with the 13.75 wheelbase look fun. Steep or mellow with Ventures?   
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tom Pearl on March 11, 2023, 03:00:17 PM
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Anyone else ride ventures with steep concave like  FA decks? It’s not my main setup but I think I’ve seen people say they prefer more flat mellow concaves on ventures, yet this has been super fun to ride.
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I skated 5.2 lows on an 8.18 hockey deck and it was amazing for flatground!


big nose on lows is my fav combo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 11, 2023, 05:53:27 PM
Anyone else ride ventures with steep concave like  FA decks? It’s not my main setup but I think I’ve seen people say they prefer more flat mellow concaves on ventures, yet this has been super fun to ride.

Skated high ventures on Fa and alien and it was great.

Soon; alien and Venture lo lights. Hope it works with the lo‘s that good too
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 11, 2023, 06:00:14 PM
I really really hated FA on ventures back when I had that combo. That being said, steep kicks are just not my thing in general so your mileage may vary
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on March 11, 2023, 08:04:33 PM
Anyone else ride ventures with steep concave like  FA decks? It’s not my main setup but I think I’ve seen people say they prefer more flat mellow concaves on ventures, yet this has been super fun to ride.

I've ridden ventures highs on numerous workshops.  I think they pair great.  Serious nollie power.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 11, 2023, 09:24:33 PM
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Anyone else ride ventures with steep concave like  FA decks? It’s not my main setup but I think I’ve seen people say they prefer more flat mellow concaves on ventures, yet this has been super fun to ride.
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I've ridden ventures highs on numerous workshops.  I think they pair great.  Serious nollie power.

Best Nollies in my life with Ventures and long nose AWS / Habitat decks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: juniormint on March 12, 2023, 04:20:49 AM
6.1 riders what’s your go to deck ?
I haven’t spent much time on Ventures but
I just picked got some (6.1’s). I’m looking at some 8.5-8.75 Alien and Quasi decks. Also the Metal egg 9.0 and Quasi egg with the 13.75 wheelbase look fun. Steep or mellow with Ventures?

AWS 8.75 and 6.1s is a great feeling setup imo. Not particularly mellow, but it might be the generous tail that balances it out really well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on March 12, 2023, 05:05:37 AM
I really really hated FA on ventures back when I had that combo. That being said, steep kicks are just not my thing in general so your mileage may vary

FA/Hockey 8.25 might be my fav decks to pair up with the venture 5.6 v-hollows I ride… I love the 14.12wb on them and the steep concave makes me feel like I got powered up pop.

@DeepSpace9mm I got some 6.1 v-hollows in my “slappy set-up” and I really like them paired with this Heroin “shovel egg” deck with a <14wb. It’s such a fun chubby set-up that I’ve been riding it as my main lately.
But yeah, I think if you don’t go over 14.25wb you should be alright.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 12, 2023, 06:43:25 AM
I can understand it as Ventures shorten/steepen the nose a bit and unless the nose has some length to it, it's whiff city..... I think if you like those boards, the trucks will be fine, personally I'd prefer them on something mellower (BBS) but that's just how I like boards.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on March 12, 2023, 08:06:27 AM
Experiences with lo ventures and AWS decks?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 12, 2023, 08:10:50 AM
Experiences with lo ventures and AWS decks?


Dunno why, but your request sounds so horny to me


Venture lo’s and AWS were the kit. Pops are his zenith…so many others.
The beginning of the setup thread is just 7.75s and lo’s are shit.
I remember reading something where dill and Ave both swore by the 7.75, 5.0 lo, and like 53 ish wheels (so you know those trucks were cranked).

I haven’t done it in recent times. AWS or habitat isn’t usually at the shop, and the current versions, although totally fine, don’t get pull me in, like say a quasi, or a strangelove would
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on March 12, 2023, 08:40:09 AM
6.1 riders what’s your go to deck ?
I haven’t spent much time on Ventures but
I just picked got some (6.1’s). I’m looking at some 8.5-8.75 Alien and Quasi decks. Also the Metal egg 9.0 and Quasi egg with the 13.75 wheelbase look fun. Steep or mellow with Ventures?

WKND 8.875" football shape with 13.75”wb.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 13, 2023, 05:13:06 AM
6.1 riders what’s your go to deck ?
I haven’t spent much time on Ventures but
I just picked got some (6.1’s). I’m looking at some 8.5-8.75 Alien and Quasi decks. Also the Metal egg 9.0 and Quasi egg with the 13.75 wheelbase look fun. Steep or mellow with Ventures?
anything from 8.5 - 9.25ish should work
without hiccups as long as the wheelbase doesnt pass 14.25
seen people run them up to 14.5wb but its hefty pop
might give it another try myself to maybe change the narrative

steep vs mellow depends on you. i had good times on both
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DeepSpace9mm on March 13, 2023, 03:48:50 PM
Thanks for the responses and suggestions. I’m excited to try out these 6.1’s when I can.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 13, 2023, 04:11:42 PM
Wouldn't redrilling change how the truck feels while turning in manual?

Especially since I'd definitely only drill one using a 6 hole plate then the 69 method.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 13, 2023, 08:04:53 PM
Wouldn't redrilling change how the truck feels while turning in manual?

Especially since I'd definitely only drill one using a 6 hole plate then the 69 method.


Are you referring to the way Koston and others do this with their Venture trucks?


If so, then yes.

Completely.

I think the easiest way to explain how it felt is like this - it is like going from having a brick on the front of your board with normal Ventures, which give it the heavy lift feeling when compared to other truck brands, especially Indy or Ace, to having zero weight on the front of the board at all, so it is almost too light compared to everything else, so completely opposite extremes with the difference in where the truck sits on the average board with average wheelbase and holes drilled with normal fingers of flat.

Not that hard to get used to if you stuck with it and skated those same trucks on the same longer wheelbase board, but I guess for those people who do drill their Venture baseplates in the alternate hole pattern, each truck being now 3/8" less so a total of 3/4" for both trucks, that is some serious difference you feel on any board, taking even a 14.75" wb down to even 14" if you wanted to.

I only tried it on an 8.38 with steep kicks and 14.5 wb which was a board I would not have skated normally on my Indy 149 trucks, and it worked really well on Venture 5.8s in the short wheelbase option.  To note the normal wheelbase option on the Venture trucks was terrible for me, but that was just one example and as said, I come from riding Indy trucks normally.


What I would recommend before drilling out the trucks is drilling in the wheelbase on an old board first, just to feel it out.  That is a whole lot easier and gives you a chance to get a feel for it, without maybe making a mess of the baseplates, or realising that it just doesn't work for you.

I did just the tail end initially which made it much more normal all round, as someone else had done to make it more even in the kicks too, but doing both is worth it, just to experience it even once.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 13, 2023, 09:03:44 PM
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Wouldn't redrilling change how the truck feels while turning in manual?

Especially since I'd definitely only drill one using a 6 hole plate then the 69 method.
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Are you referring to the way Koston and others do this with their Venture trucks?


If so, then yes.

Completely.

I think the easiest way to explain how it felt is like this - it is like going from having a brick on the front of your board with normal Ventures, which give it the heavy lift feeling when compared to other truck brands, especially Indy or Ace, to having zero weight on the front of the board at all, so it is almost too light compared to everything else, so completely opposite extremes with the difference in where the truck sits on the average board with average wheelbase and holes drilled with normal fingers of flat.

Not that hard to get used to if you stuck with it and skated those same trucks on the same longer wheelbase board, but I guess for those people who do drill their Venture baseplates in the alternate hole pattern, each truck being now 3/8" less so a total of 3/4" for both trucks, that is some serious difference you feel on any board, taking even a 14.75" wb down to even 14" if you wanted to.

I only tried it on an 8.38 with steep kicks and 14.5 wb which was a board I would not have skated normally on my Indy 149 trucks, and it worked really well on Venture 5.8s in the short wheelbase option.  To note the normal wheelbase option on the Venture trucks was terrible for me, but that was just one example and as said, I come from riding Indy trucks normally.


What I would recommend before drilling out the trucks is drilling in the wheelbase on an old board first, just to feel it out.  That is a whole lot easier and gives you a chance to get a feel for it, without maybe making a mess of the baseplates, or realising that it just doesn't work for you.

I did just the tail end initially which made it much more normal all round, as someone else had done to make it more even in the kicks too, but doing both is worth it, just to experience it even once.

Word thanks. I'd definitely redrill my board way before doing my trucks.

My trucks are perfect. Probably going to have to go back to my old purps when the weather warms up tho.

Im going to cop a new truck this summer for my side board. Maybe mags idk. They need a 9" truck.
I'm sick of waxing shit. Gives me tendinitis. If there no sink around to wash my hands after I'm bummed.

I wanna feel what they are like on pool coping too. Hopefully they turn good. I had a trash find with og tensors. They didn't turn at all. Manny forever but forget carving.
Then I had a set of aloys or whatever on my brothers like almost complete. Broken immediately.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 13, 2023, 10:50:08 PM
I feel you, dirty wax hands suck, especially grimy ass spots; I keep a big thing of hand sanitizer and some rags in my car just for this.

Sometimes I swear I'm the only out there waxing.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 14, 2023, 08:53:48 AM
The funny thing about the venture pop is I’ll whiff and still get more height than popping on another truck….it’s something I got used to and grew to really like.  The trucks are stable so you can put your foot in the pocket and just think of the pop.  With trucks like Aces, I’m always moving around and the turning is always present, I don’t have the power, confidence or skill to skate those trucks well…

My tensor knowledge is not great and I know there has been some redesigns but the mags I tried turned horribly compared to venture hi’s…..which don’t turn great but you loosen them up, they do the job….even on transition I liked them, because you can put all your weight on side. 

Wheelbase wise, it bugs me but doesn’t affect me much, if I had my way, every board made by BBS would have 1/8-1/4 inch off all the wheelbases and I’d be chill.   And change the alloy or process with ventures making them grind the same as Indy/thunder…..I don’t even need an IKP…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 14, 2023, 09:10:50 AM
The funny thing about the venture pop is I’ll whiff and still get more height than popping on another truck….it’s something I got used to and grew to really like.  The trucks are stable so you can put your foot in the pocket and just think of the pop.  With trucks like Aces, I’m always moving around and the turning is always present, I don’t have the power, confidence or skill to skate those trucks well…

My tensor knowledge is not great and I know there has been some redesigns but the mags I tried turned horribly compared to venture hi’s…..which don’t turn great but you loosen them up, they do the job….even on transition I liked them, because you can put all your weight on side. 

Wheelbase wise, it bugs me but doesn’t affect me much, if I had my way, every board made by BBS would have 1/8-1/4 inch off all the wheelbases and I’d be chill.   And change the alloy or process with ventures making them grind the same as Indy/thunder…..I don’t even need an IKP…
youre outta luck for a 1/8” reduction but 1/4” is possible
what bbs shapes are you referring to
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on March 14, 2023, 09:23:43 AM
was just thinking instead of buying lows, just slapped on some old worn down 48mm wheels and we get the same experience :) feels perfect! They dont even really feel that small. i guess lately i have been skating really good ground.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 14, 2023, 09:44:11 AM
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The funny thing about the venture pop is I’ll whiff and still get more height than popping on another truck….it’s something I got used to and grew to really like.  The trucks are stable so you can put your foot in the pocket and just think of the pop.  With trucks like Aces, I’m always moving around and the turning is always present, I don’t have the power, confidence or skill to skate those trucks well…

My tensor knowledge is not great and I know there has been some redesigns but the mags I tried turned horribly compared to venture hi’s…..which don’t turn great but you loosen them up, they do the job….even on transition I liked them, because you can put all your weight on side. 

Wheelbase wise, it bugs me but doesn’t affect me much, if I had my way, every board made by BBS would have 1/8-1/4 inch off all the wheelbases and I’d be chill.   And change the alloy or process with ventures making them grind the same as Indy/thunder…..I don’t even need an IKP…
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youre outta luck for a 1/8” reduction but 1/4” is possible
what bbs shapes are you referring to

I know there are exceptions ie. Real, but most 8.25 BBS wheel bases run closer to 14.5, ideally I’d like 14” with ventures.  I’d even accept 14.125…. Like an 8” board seems so obviously 14” wheelbase….end of story… my next 4 boards are all 8.125 BBS: Polar, shop decks, Alltimers.  They are all 14.25 and up.

My new strategy is to just ride a smaller board ie. I’ll likely step down to an 8…..I understand though the current tren d is bigger boards, bigger wheelbases….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 14, 2023, 10:21:06 AM
No, that is factually wrong. The BBS generic shapes most brands use are 14.25 on the dot. DLX decks are 14.38. I have never seen an 8.25x14.5 from a brand other than Palace
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 14, 2023, 10:22:39 AM
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The funny thing about the venture pop is I’ll whiff and still get more height than popping on another truck….it’s something I got used to and grew to really like.  The trucks are stable so you can put your foot in the pocket and just think of the pop.  With trucks like Aces, I’m always moving around and the turning is always present, I don’t have the power, confidence or skill to skate those trucks well…

My tensor knowledge is not great and I know there has been some redesigns but the mags I tried turned horribly compared to venture hi’s…..which don’t turn great but you loosen them up, they do the job….even on transition I liked them, because you can put all your weight on side. 

Wheelbase wise, it bugs me but doesn’t affect me much, if I had my way, every board made by BBS would have 1/8-1/4 inch off all the wheelbases and I’d be chill.   And change the alloy or process with ventures making them grind the same as Indy/thunder…..I don’t even need an IKP…
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youre outta luck for a 1/8” reduction but 1/4” is possible
what bbs shapes are you referring to
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I know there are exceptions ie. Real, but most 8.25 BBS wheel bases run closer to 14.5, ideally I’d like 14” with ventures.  I’d even accept 14.125…. Like an 8” board seems so obviously 14” wheelbase….end of story… my next 4 boards are all 8.125 BBS: Polar, shop decks, Alltimers.  They are all 14.25 and up.

My new strategy is to just ride a smaller board ie. I’ll likely step down to an 8…..I understand though the current tren d is bigger boards, bigger wheelbases….
Magenta and Frog 8's are 14" wb and on BBS wood. Primitive 8.125 as well (although some Primitive boards have been manufactured in China so best to buy decks in person)
Ventures on 14.25" wb isn't that bad, but I do agree with you that if I could have it my way all the time, 14" wb with Ventures works best for my height and style of skating that I do. I would love to ride Krooked graphics with Ventures but all the 8's usually are 14.38" wb  :'(
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YMCMB on March 14, 2023, 10:30:28 AM
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The funny thing about the venture pop is I’ll whiff and still get more height than popping on another truck….it’s something I got used to and grew to really like.  The trucks are stable so you can put your foot in the pocket and just think of the pop.  With trucks like Aces, I’m always moving around and the turning is always present, I don’t have the power, confidence or skill to skate those trucks well…

My tensor knowledge is not great and I know there has been some redesigns but the mags I tried turned horribly compared to venture hi’s…..which don’t turn great but you loosen them up, they do the job….even on transition I liked them, because you can put all your weight on side. 

Wheelbase wise, it bugs me but doesn’t affect me much, if I had my way, every board made by BBS would have 1/8-1/4 inch off all the wheelbases and I’d be chill.   And change the alloy or process with ventures making them grind the same as Indy/thunder…..I don’t even need an IKP…
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youre outta luck for a 1/8” reduction but 1/4” is possible
what bbs shapes are you referring to
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I know there are exceptions ie. Real, but most 8.25 BBS wheel bases run closer to 14.5, ideally I’d like 14” with ventures.  I’d even accept 14.125…. Like an 8” board seems so obviously 14” wheelbase….end of story… my next 4 boards are all 8.125 BBS: Polar, shop decks, Alltimers.  They are all 14.25 and up.

My new strategy is to just ride a smaller board ie. I’ll likely step down to an 8…..I understand though the current tren d is bigger boards, bigger wheelbases….
8.28" DLX has 14.125 WB
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on March 14, 2023, 10:41:12 AM
my new anti hero board is 8.5" with 14" wb
6.5" tail, 7" nose
seems fairly centered where the holes are drilled. cant wait to skate it. seems like its going to be the perfect shape.

(https://www.tactics.com/a/dpse/1b/anti-hero-hi-bias-85-skateboard-deck.jpg)

Real is doing some with a 13.75" wb!! that is gonna be like a tech deck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 14, 2023, 12:42:53 PM
No, that is factually wrong. The BBS generic shapes most brands use are 14.25 on the dot. DLX decks are 14.38. I have never seen an 8.25x14.5 from a brand other than Palace

I stand corrected, they are 14.25.

Carry on….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 15, 2023, 10:13:20 AM
No, that is factually wrong. The BBS generic shapes most brands use are 14.25 on the dot. DLX decks are 14.38. I have never seen an 8.25x14.5 from a brand other than Palace

There has one I think.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 15, 2023, 10:29:33 AM
Ah must be the 8.25 Full shape that I thought was killed off.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YMCMB on March 15, 2023, 11:11:14 AM
Ah must be the 8.25 Full shape that I thought was killed off.
(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2023/rs-sp23-d1-08.png)
This came out for spring, must still be going.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on March 15, 2023, 01:43:55 PM
Real is doing some with a 13.75" wb!! that is gonna be like a tech deck.

I picked up the 8.5 curb commandments deck with that wheelbase...
I've not yet set up. I'm waiting for some stage 4's to come in.
I've been doing nonstop carpet kickflips on it. Shape looks and feels amazing.
 Kicks are steep.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 15, 2023, 05:43:48 PM
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Ah must be the 8.25 Full shape that I thought was killed off.
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This came out for spring, must still be going.


There were orginally FULL shapes going back to maybe 2017 or so, which were way longer wheelbases as well, eg 8.25 x 32.2 with 14.5 wb.

Then they brought out the Full SE shapes in about 2018-2019 which were still wider end to end but with a shorter wheelbase and overall length, as the trend was going more towards shorter boards.

With 2020 and pandemic shortages, everything seemed to stop for a while, but they have brought out a lot more, as well as the Tru Fit (shorter boards) more recently.

There are still both around, but way more of the Full SE than the original FULL shape coming out in the last year or more.


The FULL boards were crazy on Ventures, but the Full SE work really well, as do the shorter wheelbase boards.


The link is here to the board shapes:

https://www.realskateboards.com/construction/


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 15, 2023, 08:29:57 PM
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No, that is factually wrong. The BBS generic shapes most brands use are 14.25 on the dot. DLX decks are 14.38. I have never seen an 8.25x14.5 from a brand other than Palace
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There has one I think.

If the Dims are to be believed that is:

https://www.thereskateboards.com/product-page/banners-8-25

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(https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2023/rs-sp23-d1-08.png)
This came out for spring, must still be going.

That's the SE (Short Edition)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 15, 2023, 09:33:08 PM
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No, that is factually wrong. The BBS generic shapes most brands use are 14.25 on the dot. DLX decks are 14.38. I have never seen an 8.25x14.5 from a brand other than Palace
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There has one I think.
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If the Dims are to be believed that is:

https://www.thereskateboards.com/product-page/banners-8-25



Yep, I think someone asked DLX or whoever and that one was confirmed as a FULL shape.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 15, 2023, 09:54:37 PM
I knew speaking is a general sense about wheelbase was impossible…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: reptar_bar on March 16, 2023, 09:10:51 AM
Can someone tell me if 5.6 Ventures = 144 Indy’s?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on March 16, 2023, 10:21:37 AM
Can someone tell me if 5.6 Ventures = 144 Indy’s?

Both are 8.25, but 5.6 Ventures > 144 Indys. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 21, 2023, 09:10:40 AM
always on the grind
(https://i.ibb.co/0cZYHyt/53076-B28-6792-4614-A42-F-1463-BB8-A8-C8-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PN41qGQ)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on March 21, 2023, 09:15:47 AM
always on the grind
(https://i.ibb.co/0cZYHyt/53076-B28-6792-4614-A42-F-1463-BB8-A8-C8-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PN41qGQ)
That’s some good weed too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 21, 2023, 09:29:28 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/0cZYHyt/53076-B28-6792-4614-A42-F-1463-BB8-A8-C8-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PN41qGQ)
become AWAKE and get elevated  8)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on March 21, 2023, 09:47:00 AM
I wonder if it is quality material. Grinders under $20 are usually cheaply made and end up smelling like coins.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 21, 2023, 10:04:59 AM
I had one of those pill size grinders. Wish it said venture on it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: backside_frontside on March 21, 2023, 12:03:22 PM
S tier mercy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on March 23, 2023, 06:02:11 AM
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That time of the year again:
Gonna be sizing up to 8.5. Gonna go with cast Venture His, since I love bigger wheels (55+).
Heard a lot of talk about 6.1s being different than 5.8s – in addition to being a wider truck of course... any recommendations from 6.1/5.8 users?
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Get slightly harder bushings (like 95a instead of what’s usually assumed to be 90a stock) then they feel like normal V’s - all good.

Think the wider hanger just gives too much press on the regular duro - if you like a happy medium tightness I couldn’t get it with stock, was flopping all over.

I went up another couple of notches, now fitted 98a Doh Dohs and they’re finally on point. Feel just like my regular size V’s turn - but wider.

I’d actually say the stocks are borderline unskateable unless you’re into flip-flop loose.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on March 23, 2023, 06:10:29 AM
once the 95a broke in they weren’t as adjustable

For 6.1’s I see it this way…

90 stock - no control, utterly loose
95-ish - some control, surfy/whippy cut-back turn
98-ish - classic lovely medium V turn, stable with control, some resistance and rebound
100 and up - might need these for speed runs and vert, stiff, press to turn, no wheel bite ever.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on March 23, 2023, 06:13:02 AM
I’m riding a 9.5 with offset wheels (stick out well past axle end) btw… this may be part why I’ve found the 6.1s over turny on my particular setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 23, 2023, 12:10:42 PM
Anyone run bones hard in hi’s loose?  That’s my strategy….5.2’s on an 8.125….

Flippable…yes…poppable….yes….carveable….sure….

Loose trucks that don’t turn, hard bushings but conical, with some overhang/leverage and I weigh nothing….

This seems like it’ll work…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 23, 2023, 12:24:25 PM
Anyone run bones hard in hi’s loose?  That’s my strategy….5.2’s on an 8.125….

Flippable…yes…poppable….yes….carveable….sure….

Loose trucks that don’t turn, hard bushings but conical, with some overhang/leverage and I weigh nothing….

This seems like it’ll work…

This will work.
Haven’t in HI’s, but it was the recipe for a bit with lo’s.
I say this a lot, but an ollie on ventures, for me, is what I do like. The flat top washer that doesn’t bind, also gets you more turn. Debatable if that’s a good thing.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 23, 2023, 02:30:56 PM
Anyone run bones hard in hi’s loose?  That’s my strategy….5.2’s on an 8.125….

Flippable…yes…poppable….yes….carveable….sure….

Loose trucks that don’t turn, hard bushings but conical, with some overhang/leverage and I weigh nothing….

This seems like it’ll work…

I did this ages ago but with ACE 03 (8" lows) + Bones hards; I can't tell you why it worked, but it did. I skated so well on that setup (real 8.125 low pro and ricta chrome cores)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 23, 2023, 10:02:28 PM
I’ve come to the conclusion based on Ace lo’s and mindys…I’m actually not crazy about low trucks although I like thunders…..

I’ll get forged hi’s…they are the only truck I can nollie heel on….

I love to nollie….I’ve mentioned this before but I learned about pockets late in skating and these trucks accentuate this…you just jam your foot in the pocket and push forward….whiffing can suck but I swear I get more lift off a venture whiff than popping on some trucks. 

I’ll miss grinding but I’ll just wax them and I realized I mainly just blast off mellow banks at skateparks…

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on March 24, 2023, 09:02:23 AM
Anyone run bones hard in hi’s loose?  That’s my strategy….5.2’s on an 8.125….

Flippable…yes…poppable….yes….carveable….sure….

Loose trucks that don’t turn, hard bushings but conical, with some overhang/leverage and I weigh nothing….

This seems like it’ll work…

Yeah, that’s the ticket, I run bones hard on Venture hi. I have the nut flush w the kingpin, idk if that’s loose, but works for me, super stable but can still carve.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: downtodevin on March 24, 2023, 02:34:53 PM
I just got my 5.8 V-Lights in the mail, but I have one question. This is my first time riding Ventures, are they supposed to have different colored nuts? On one truck the nuts are a raw/silver and the other truck has like a goldish color. Is this normal? Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 24, 2023, 04:09:06 PM
I just got my 5.8 V-Lights in the mail, but I have one question. This is my first time riding Ventures, are they supposed to have different colored nuts? On one truck the nuts are a raw/silver and the other truck has like a goldish color. Is this normal? Thanks!

Not normal I'd say but probably fine. Check the stickers on the bottom of the plates to make sure the stickers match. Axle and Kingpin? Washers the same?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: downtodevin on March 24, 2023, 05:08:47 PM
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I just got my 5.8 V-Lights in the mail, but I have one question. This is my first time riding Ventures, are they supposed to have different colored nuts? On one truck the nuts are a raw/silver and the other truck has like a goldish color. Is this normal? Thanks!
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Not normal I'd say but probably fine. Check the stickers on the bottom of the plates to make sure the stickers match. Axle and Kingpin? Washers the same?

Here is what it looks like.

(https://i.imgur.com/1ws5nhx.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OVk1s14.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/FnE3SGo.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: downtodevin on March 24, 2023, 05:29:47 PM
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I just got my 5.8 V-Lights in the mail, but I have one question. This is my first time riding Ventures, are they supposed to have different colored nuts? On one truck the nuts are a raw/silver and the other truck has like a goldish color. Is this normal? Thanks!
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During some shortages, some things were a bit hit and miss, as well as the specialty versions all having gold nuts before changing to the plain silver, but that shouldn't be an issue for the dates on those DLX stickers.

Maybe some sets were gold and some sets were silver in that run, which has been mixed up in the shop, or someone has swapped them out from another set.

Either way, it is fine to skate but it would bug me to no end, with a lot of people swapping out gold nuts for silver before they even set them up in some shops I have seen.

Yeah it’s probably gonna drive me nuts. But I’ll likely just throw the gold ones up front and they can differentiate the nose and tail.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 24, 2023, 05:32:23 PM
I just got my 5.8 V-Lights in the mail, but I have one question. This is my first time riding Ventures, are they supposed to have different colored nuts? On one truck the nuts are a raw/silver and the other truck has like a goldish color. Is this normal? Thanks!


During some shortages, some things were a bit hit and miss, as well as the specialty versions all having gold nuts before changing to the plain silver, but that shouldn't be an issue for the dates on those DLX stickers, even though they are clearly different runs - one run from April and one from July 2021.

Maybe they used gold nuts in the one run and others were silver in that other run, with the trucks then being mixed up in the shop between different deliveries of stock, or someone has swapped them out from another set.

Either way, it is fine to skate but it would bug me to no end, with a lot of people swapping out gold nuts for silver before they even set them up in some shops I have seen.

It is probably not worth it but I would send those pics to the shop and ask them if their remaining stock was also mixed, then maybe get the other set too, or get something returned / replaced, but that is the extreme OCD end of the scale.


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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 24, 2023, 05:49:16 PM
I always have spare axel nuts around because I deserve it.....and excessive primo'ing...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 24, 2023, 07:59:09 PM
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I just got my 5.8 V-Lights in the mail, but I have one question. This is my first time riding Ventures, are they supposed to have different colored nuts? On one truck the nuts are a raw/silver and the other truck has like a goldish color. Is this normal? Thanks!
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During some shortages, some things were a bit hit and miss, as well as the specialty versions all having gold nuts before changing to the plain silver, but that shouldn't be an issue for the dates on those DLX stickers.

Maybe some sets were gold and some sets were silver in that run, which has been mixed up in the shop, or someone has swapped them out from another set.

Either way, it is fine to skate but it would bug me to no end, with a lot of people swapping out gold nuts for silver before they even set them up in some shops I have seen.
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Yeah it’s probably gonna drive me nuts. But I’ll likely just throw the gold ones up front and they can differentiate the nose and tail.

The stickers indicate they are from different production batches 07/12/2021 & 4/21/2021 and shops usually dump all of them in a box instead of bundling them together. So they probably just grabbed the first pair and shipped them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 24, 2023, 08:31:26 PM
I always have spare axel nuts around because I deserve it.....and excessive primo'ing...

I usually throw some in my cart(s) to round up to free shipping; once you have a wheel or KP nut fall off, you get paranoid.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 24, 2023, 10:25:02 PM
I just get annoyed when they don’t fit my skate tool well and with my no rattle obsessiveness, I tighten my axel nuts all the time…..so I don’t actually deserve them…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 29, 2023, 05:25:16 PM
Spent a week (with a toooon of skating) on Royals (with 92a Indy blues), then setup some new V-Cast Hollow (Kader) ventures (stock) for comparison (same board/wheels).

(https://i.ibb.co/6vq6Q4T/IMG-4004.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6vq6Q4T)

(https://i.ibb.co/THzr71T/IMG-4005.jpg) (https://ibb.co/THzr71T)

(https://i.ibb.co/fGyN1nR/IMG-4006.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fGyN1nR)

(https://i.ibb.co/Q6JFhd8/IMG-4007.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Q6JFhd8)

(https://i.ibb.co/DVT5JjT/IMG-4008.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DVT5JjT)

I then swapped out the stock ventures bushings for the Indy blues.

They felt damn near identical but with royals having a slightly quicker turn at the beginning (tighter WB), and the Venture grind feeling better (harder/louder/smoother vs. rougher/muffled. Pretty clear what inspired the new royals, that's for sure...even looking at them you see how close they are.

Otherwise, even with the 1.5mm height difference I didn't feel like I swapped trucks at all. I did, however, go back to the stock black venture bushings to get them broken in and feel how they compare to the indy blues.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 29, 2023, 06:24:01 PM
met one of the melodi dudes who runs ventures all around
but was ripping the bowl with 5.6 casts
paired an antihero 8.38 (14.5) and 60mm conical fulls

said he usually skates gaps and rails but uses the same setup
they work with whatever if you dont overthink it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on March 29, 2023, 06:33:34 PM
met one of the melodi dudes who runs ventures all around
but was ripping the bowl with 5.6 casts
paired an antihero 8.38 (14.5) and 60mm conical fulls

said he usually skates gaps and rails but uses the same setup
they work with whatever if you dont overthink it

This dude? If so he's ripping a tanky ass setup

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CbQVvbgpOzX/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tom Pearl on March 30, 2023, 10:38:04 AM
anybody ever experience this before? my kingpin like hyper extended somehow

these are 5.2 lo's, idk wtf just happened. the nut was flush with the washer and then i heard a noise after landing and this is the end result. kingpin is super loose and wiggly now

(https://i.ibb.co/jJw2CBv/20230330-133305.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on March 30, 2023, 11:15:17 AM
I actually like the way Ventures grind BETTER on crooked grinds / nose grinds because it feels like there is a little more resistance. i can sit on top of it the way i like and it doesnt feel squirrley like I am going to slide out. i think i could say the same for 5-0s too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: swellbowed on March 30, 2023, 11:35:54 AM
anybody ever experience this before? my kingpin like hyper extended somehow

these are 5.2 lo's, idk wtf just happened. the nut was flush with the washer and then i heard a noise after landing and this is the end result. kingpin is super loose and wiggly now

(https://i.ibb.co/jJw2CBv/20230330-133305.jpg)
That's a crazy one, hit up the DLX warranty and they'll most likely help you out with a new set
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on March 30, 2023, 12:22:43 PM
anybody ever experience this before? my kingpin like hyper extended somehow

these are 5.2 lo's, idk wtf just happened. the nut was flush with the washer and then i heard a noise after landing and this is the end result. kingpin is super loose and wiggly now

(https://i.ibb.co/jJw2CBv/20230330-133305.jpg)

I would have to assume this is a broken kingpin and only the bushings are holding the top of that bad boy in right now. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 30, 2023, 12:49:43 PM
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anybody ever experience this before? my kingpin like hyper extended somehow

these are 5.2 lo's, idk wtf just happened. the nut was flush with the washer and then i heard a noise after landing and this is the end result. kingpin is super loose and wiggly now

(https://i.ibb.co/jJw2CBv/20230330-133305.jpg)
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I would have to assume this is a broken kingpin and only the bushings are holding the top of that bad boy in right now. 

Yeah man, disassemble and check that shit before you get broke off.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tom Pearl on March 30, 2023, 01:53:13 PM
yeah after i took it apart it ended up being broke, ne ver seen one break like that before.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 30, 2023, 02:09:42 PM
Where was it broken? base area? higher up?
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Post by: Tom Pearl on March 30, 2023, 03:37:13 PM
Where was it broken? base area? higher up?


(https://i.ibb.co/G3jFRqZ/20230330-180858.jpg)
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Post by: swellbowed on March 30, 2023, 04:34:32 PM
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Where was it broken? base area? higher up?
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(https://i.ibb.co/G3jFRqZ/20230330-180858.jpg)
Def holler at DLX, they'll get you taken care of with a new set
https://www.dlxsf.com/warranty/
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Post by: Tom Pearl on March 30, 2023, 05:40:06 PM
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Where was it broken? base area? higher up?
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Def holler at DLX, they'll get you taken care of with a new set
https://www.dlxsf.com/warranty/

a broken kingpin counts as a defect? i've had them for about a year now and skated the shit out of them. you sure? 
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Post by: swellbowed on March 30, 2023, 05:55:36 PM
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Def holler at DLX, they'll get you taken care of with a new set
https://www.dlxsf.com/warranty/
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a broken kingpin counts as a defect? i've had them for about a year now and skated the shit out of them. you sure?
Most likely, seen people on here in the past with similar issues & they got it straightened out with the warranty dept. - worth a shot. Let us know how it goes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BL0B on March 30, 2023, 11:22:35 PM
was it just hanging on by the splines? crazy!
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Post by: El Freegano on March 31, 2023, 01:54:25 AM
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https://www.dlxsf.com/warranty/
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a broken kingpin counts as a defect? i've had them for about a year now and skated the shit out of them. you sure?
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Most likely, seen people on here in the past with similar issues & they got it straightened out with the warranty dept. - worth a shot. Let us know how it goes
Come on, man... it is just a broken kingpin after a solid ride, it is lame to complain and want something from dlx. Just buy a new kingpin and everything is fine :)
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Post by: roba on March 31, 2023, 03:57:31 AM
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Def holler at DLX, they'll get you taken care of with a new set
https://www.dlxsf.com/warranty/
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a broken kingpin counts as a defect? i've had them for about a year now and skated the shit out of them. you sure?
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Most likely, seen people on here in the past with similar issues & they got it straightened out with the warranty dept. - worth a shot. Let us know how it goes
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Come on, man... it is just a broken kingpin after a solid ride, it is lame to complain and want something from dlx. Just buy a new kingpin and everything is fine :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 31, 2023, 04:06:58 AM
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a broken kingpin counts as a defect? i've had them for about a year now and skated the shit out of them. you sure?
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Most likely, seen people on here in the past with similar issues & they got it straightened out with the warranty dept. - worth a shot. Let us know how it goes
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Come on, man... it is just a broken kingpin after a solid ride, it is lame to complain and want something from dlx. Just buy a new kingpin and everything is fine :)
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Broken kingpins do not count as a warranty.

People have tried in the past to get something, but almost always, except if the truck is still within 30 days or whatever legal warranty per country, there is no warranty against breakage like that as it comes under general use.

If the baseplate broke in two, hanger broke off, axle broke, etc that is covered under warranty, but only for a specified period of time.


Best thing to do is sit the broken kingpin in the truck baseplate and hammer the remainder of the kingpin out, then try to fit a new one, or if you are lucky enough to have a local shop that has parts and someone who knows what they are doing, they can usually do it for you.

Failing that, maybe think about getting a new set of trucks and keep the other parts as spares, or until you can find someone with tools to get the old kingpin out and put a new one in.


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Getting a kingpin out is in itself a pain in the ass, but getting a new one in is even harder, so I usually grind or file down the "teeth" in the new kingpin a bit to help it go in more easily and use the old butt of the broken kingpin as a hammer pin between the new kingpin and the hammer / mallet or whatever you are hitting it with.

If you have access to a press, I will say no more, as it will make it very easy, but for everyone else, using the old broken kingpin parts is the best way to help get the rest of it out and get the new one in.  Sitting the baseplate on something or up against a curb or parking block is also good, preferrably something with a hole in it to help the kingpin come out.  Then sitting the baseplate on two bits of wood while you try to get the new kingpin in.

Any other dramas with it and I can help with more info.  I have had to change out a lot of broken kingpins over the years, some very difficult, some not so difficult to remove and replace.

Pretty much any kingpin will work, not just a low kingpin, but if the new one sits up too high you can use an angle grinder to take the top off once the nut is on or even a rough curb or something to grind it down if you have no tools at all once it is on the board.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on March 31, 2023, 08:29:52 AM
I haven't changed a kingpin since the early 2000s. I remember it not being fun. I did what you said though. I used the old kingpin and a hammer to hammer in the new one. i just put the truck into a vise.  I just bought a grade 2 bolt from the hardware store down the street, it broke hella fast. need at least grade 8 on that shit if you want it to last. i havent broken one since! I used to skate in really cold temperatures, and i think the ones i broke were on Grind King and Destructo's. I actually broke the entire axle off of the Grind Kings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 31, 2023, 08:37:00 AM
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https://www.dlxsf.com/warranty/
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a broken kingpin counts as a defect? i've had them for about a year now and skated the shit out of them. you sure?
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Most likely, seen people on here in the past with similar issues & they got it straightened out with the warranty dept. - worth a shot. Let us know how it goes
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Come on, man... it is just a broken kingpin after a solid ride, it is lame to complain and want something from dlx. Just buy a new kingpin and everything is fine :)
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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tom Pearl on March 31, 2023, 10:18:21 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/y4vHJpk/Screenshot-20230331-131343-Gmail.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 31, 2023, 10:29:11 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/y4vHJpk/Screenshot-20230331-131343-Gmail.jpg)
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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on March 31, 2023, 10:32:14 AM
oh hell yeah bro
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 31, 2023, 03:35:19 PM
Man.... I gotta say I feel like that's taking advantage of the good-hearted nature of dlx...those trucks were well skated, worn and over a year old....

That's like buying 55mm wheels, skating them down to 49mm and claiming a no flat spot warranty.

Shame.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 31, 2023, 04:12:14 PM
I actually like the way Ventures grind BETTER on crooked grinds / nose grinds because it feels like there is a little more resistance. i can sit on top of it the way i like and it doesnt feel squirrley like I am going to slide out. i think i could say the same for 5-0s too.

i like back 50s and back 5oh.

i like the pop out i get from venture. Thunder has it too. its fast and loud sometimes. venture is the best sounding grind on rough granite. i like ace classic better than indy
But venture is the best.
i been riding the slappy truck a little. shit is so sick. when i finish PT im going to ride only that truck for a while. see how long they hold up.

i got like 4 new curb tricks. gonna get better and film some lines. im going to try and build up the ice chest too. get a pair of 6.1s 5.6s. get some new 58mm spits when they hit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 31, 2023, 06:02:28 PM
I actually like the way Ventures grind BETTER on crooked grinds / nose grinds because it feels like there is a little more resistance. i can sit on top of it the way i like and it doesnt feel squirrley like I am going to slide out. i think i could say the same for 5-0s too.

After skating Slappy to Royal to Venture, I too, prefer the way Ventures feel in krooks...I actually don't find them harder to grind (same with royals honestly_ -  I think that's a placebo-conversation based on the audible and tactical feel.

I go plenty fast these days and every single truck (barring tensor Mags) grinds roughly the same distance...Indy/Ace/Slappy might go a little easier (I due put more pressure/weight down when riding 'new' ventures or royals until they get worn) due to the rounded hanger, but I love me some Venture/Thunder/Royal krooks with that skinny hanger + Bonus to the hard ass feeling Ventures as they really let me know when I'm in it or about to fall out of it.

Venture grind is really, really visceral =D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 31, 2023, 07:20:40 PM
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I actually like the way Ventures grind BETTER on crooked grinds / nose grinds because it feels like there is a little more resistance. i can sit on top of it the way i like and it doesnt feel squirrley like I am going to slide out. i think i could say the same for 5-0s too.
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After skating Slappy to Royal to Venture, I too, prefer the way Ventures feel in krooks...I actually don't find them harder to grind (same with royals honestly_ -  I think that's a placebo-conversation based on the audible and tactical feel.

I go plenty fast these days and every single truck (barring tensor Mags) grinds roughly the same distance...Indy/Ace/Slappy might go a little easier (I due put more pressure/weight down when riding 'new' ventures or royals until they get worn) due to the rounded hanger, but I love me some Venture/Thunder/Royal krooks with that skinny hanger + Bonus to the hard ass feeling Ventures as they really let me know when I'm in it or about to fall out of it.

Venture grind is really, really visceral =D

How much have you ridden the slappy? Did you groove it at all yet?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 31, 2023, 07:22:42 PM



Ha yeah, but at least it never hurt to ask and if they are willing to send you some more trucks, then good for you.


It is surprising sometimes what does get a warranty and what does not.

Local distros had turned down kingpin breaks here in the past (and I imagine still do) but going straight to DLX is often a lot easier and if they give you another set of trucks, then so be it.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 31, 2023, 08:02:44 PM
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Ha yeah, but at least it never hurt to ask and if they are willing to send you some more trucks, then good for you.


It is surprising sometimes what does get a warranty and what does not.

Local distros had turned down kingpin breaks here in the past (and I imagine still do) but going straight to DLX is often a lot easier and if they give you another set of trucks, then so be it.


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I actually like the way Ventures grind BETTER on crooked grinds / nose grinds because it feels like there is a little more resistance. i can sit on top of it the way i like and it doesnt feel squirrley like I am going to slide out. i think i could say the same for 5-0s too.
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After skating Slappy to Royal to Venture, I too, prefer the way Ventures feel in krooks...I actually don't find them harder to grind (same with royals honestly_ -  I think that's a placebo-conversation based on the audible and tactical feel.

I go plenty fast these days and every single truck (barring tensor Mags) grinds roughly the same distance...Indy/Ace/Slappy might go a little easier (I due put more pressure/weight down when riding 'new' ventures or royals until they get worn) due to the rounded hanger, but I love me some Venture/Thunder/Royal krooks with that skinny hanger + Bonus to the hard ass feeling Ventures as they really let me know when I'm in it or about to fall out of it.

Venture grind is really, really visceral =D
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How much have you ridden the slappy? Did you groove it at all yet?

No groove, jumped ship to royals to extend my WB some (felt tight on the slappys) and just gelled with that setup...then slapped on some Ventures with an even shorter WB...and that short WB/Venture feel is doing me right for now...I think it's the overall shorter WB and 'doesn't turn like an indy' truck combo giving me that low/stable feel I didn't think I needed.

I've got a long WB board on Ice for those slappys.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 31, 2023, 10:32:57 PM
Re: Venture grind…..I’m still not a fan…..but it does make metal feel like concrete…tried Ace lo’s and even the Mindys grinded way better…..I understand it though, just like some people prefer granite or concrete ledges over skatepark…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 01, 2023, 02:14:26 AM
Venture low ledge smiths question again :

Is it a problem? You feel a difference?

Would be a big point against them to be honest
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on April 01, 2023, 10:04:24 AM
Traded a set of Thunder 149 titaniums for 5.8 titaniums a little while back. Weather finally cleared up so I slapped on some cast baseplates and set it up with an Anti Hero 8.38 and worn down 52mm SF Conicals. I thought it would be way too long and heavy feeling, but I ended up having one of the best sessions I've had in a long time. Everything felt right with this one. I think I finally found my perfect setup
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 01, 2023, 10:48:43 AM
Venture low ledge smiths question again :

Is it a problem? You feel a difference?

Would be a big point against them to be honest

Ask Nick Matthews
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 01, 2023, 12:12:43 PM
Venture low ledge smiths question again :

Is it a problem? You feel a difference?

Would be a big point against them to be honest

Unless the nut is grinded down, its definitely a problem on some ledges.

Not so bad on metal coped ledges, nice grinding ledges with sharp edges etc but as soon as you try on something more rounded, or concrete it catches. Also depends how deep you dip them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on April 02, 2023, 06:38:04 AM
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Nice, good result. I think DLX has done the right thing here, and obviously they think so too. That kingpin shouldn't break like that, seems like a defect, and getting it out and definitely getting another in would have been a massive headache. And now it's all sorted for you, customer service like this is why DLX stays on top, glad to see it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 02, 2023, 07:39:59 AM
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Nice, good result. I think DLX has done the right thing here, and obviously they think so too. That kingpin shouldn't break like that, seems like a defect, and getting it out and definitely getting another in would have been a massive headache. And now it's all sorted for you, customer service like this is why DLX stays on top, glad to see it.

Imma say no. That’s way too much. Skateboard items are consumable items…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on April 02, 2023, 07:50:25 AM
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Nice, good result. I think DLX has done the right thing here, and obviously they think so too. That kingpin shouldn't break like that, seems like a defect, and getting it out and definitely getting another in would have been a massive headache. And now it's all sorted for you, customer service like this is why DLX stays on top, glad to see it.
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Imma say no. That’s way too much. Skateboard items are consumable items…

customers aren't consumable items and they wanted to keep a customer happy. keyword is keep
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 02, 2023, 08:29:29 AM
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Nice, good result. I think DLX has done the right thing here, and obviously they think so too. That kingpin shouldn't break like that, seems like a defect, and getting it out and definitely getting another in would have been a massive headache. And now it's all sorted for you, customer service like this is why DLX stays on top, glad to see it.
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Imma say no. That’s way too much. Skateboard items are consumable items…
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customers aren't consumable items and they wanted to keep a customer happy. keyword is keep

For a fuckin broken kingpin!? After a year? For an item with a small profit margin…I’m super old and kingpins broke all of the time, so that informs some of my opinion here, but there is also a personal frustration that I’m certainly silly to hold. I would not ordinarily describe myself as pro-corporate, but within skateboarding there exists this juicing mentality that I am overly sensitive towards, just always trying to get things for free. And then with multiple platforms for folks to complain, it just seems a bit much. To me. And my completely arbitrary internalized sense of ‘justice’.
I’m probably not making a lot of sense, and everything should just be free anyways
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tom Pearl on April 02, 2023, 09:45:57 AM
i have multiple pairs of ventures, the kingpin issue was fixed within the first 15 mins of breaking it. i only did it to test swellbowed's theory that a broken kingpin counts as a defect

had i lied to them then ok yeah that makes me a douche but i told them the kingpin broke and showed them the paypal receipt and they still ok'd it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 02, 2023, 09:56:22 AM
Make a point in the next year to make all things right in the universe and buy a venture T or hat…….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on April 02, 2023, 11:18:20 AM
This seems like taking advantage of dlx being so good natured. Don’t take advantage of good natured things. Like j soy said buy a venture T or hat or something 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 02, 2023, 11:23:18 AM
i have multiple pairs of ventures, the kingpin issue was fixed within the first 15 mins of breaking it. i only did it to test swellbowed's theory that a broken kingpin counts as a defect

had i lied to them then ok yeah that makes me a douche but i told them the kingpin broke and showed them the paypal receipt and they still ok'd it

Oh I’m not @ you, and really not anyone in all of this. I was just pushing back at the general notion that it was a ‘defect’.
I apologize, as I was unclear.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on April 02, 2023, 02:27:54 PM
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i have multiple pairs of ventures, the kingpin issue was fixed within the first 15 mins of breaking it. i only did it to test swellbowed's theory that a broken kingpin counts as a defect

had i lied to them then ok yeah that makes me a douche but i told them the kingpin broke and showed them the paypal receipt and they still ok'd it
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Oh I’m not @ you, and really not anyone in all of this. I was just pushing back at the general notion that it was a ‘defect’.
I apologize, as I was unclear.

thanks for the clarification, i was a bit confused what your argument was but yeah that makes sense
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 02, 2023, 07:12:42 PM
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i have multiple pairs of ventures, the kingpin issue was fixed within the first 15 mins of breaking it. i only did it to test swellbowed's theory that a broken kingpin counts as a defect

had i lied to them then ok yeah that makes me a douche but i told them the kingpin broke and showed them the paypal receipt and they still ok'd it
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Oh I’m not @ you, and really not anyone in all of this. I was just pushing back at the general notion that it was a ‘defect’.
I apologize, as I was unclear.
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thanks for the clarification, i was a bit confused what your argument was but yeah that makes sense


The funny thing with kingpin issues is they used to be so easy to change out, but now it is a whole lot harder.

Through a shop I worked for a while back, a regular customer came in with a broken kingpin on some fairly well used trucks, which were returned to another distro I dealt with - they always had the broken truck sent back to them back in those days, only to have it returned with what looked like a previously used kingpin hammered back into the baseplate of the truck in question and a note that said "no warranty but goodwill gesture for replacement" or something like that, which I appreciated more than then just saying no or sending a new set of trucks.

That wasn't DLX or anything to do with DLX - different brand product, but I can see why some distros do what they do to keep people happy.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 02, 2023, 09:08:38 PM
the construction is so much better these days and I guess they don't even have a market for replacement parts let alone warrantying anything.  Kingpins don't break like they used to that's for sure, maybe making them so they are impossible to get out is part of the reason why?  The cost to even ship a set a pair of trucks is almost more than the margin....go figure.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 03, 2023, 06:50:03 AM
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Nice, good result. I think DLX has done the right thing here, and obviously they think so too. That kingpin shouldn't break like that, seems like a defect, and getting it out and definitely getting another in would have been a massive headache. And now it's all sorted for you, customer service like this is why DLX stays on top, glad to see it.

hey i know Cam. i remember the first time i seen him skate at lynch. i was like damn that kids has crazy style with the roll in grinds. so fun to watch. def one of my favoriet styles at the park. kid takes good photos too. good kid
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 03, 2023, 02:36:51 PM
Did he used to post here?  Someone did…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 07, 2023, 01:39:59 PM
im not sure but hes a nice kid
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 07, 2023, 05:36:50 PM
Are wknd 8.25s tails too short for high Venture hollows?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on April 07, 2023, 06:30:04 PM
I have come to the conclusion that the more you know the WORSE, there are so many questions on this page about if ventures will “work” with certain decks, the answer is “yes to all” try not too get too bogged down in “this deck has a millimetre of extra flat before the tail curves up so you won’t be able to Christ Air with ventures”

Truck madness is a horrible and slippery slope, just pick a deck that you like that is the right size and skate it, the absolute worst case scenario is that it might feel a bit different but after one day of skating you’ll be absolutely fine.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 07, 2023, 07:15:11 PM
Are wknd 8.25s tails too short for high Venture hollows?

Depends on the 8.25 shape, they've got like 5 shapes with differing lengths. They use the PS Stix measurements, meaning flat across, so take 0.25" off length and 0.125" off nose and tail, thereabouts.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 09, 2023, 04:25:09 AM
No more hollows. Second one that breaks after some months. The wheel just falls off after half a year of skating the trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on April 09, 2023, 05:59:49 AM
No more hollows. Second one that breaks after some months. The wheel just falls off after half a year of skating the trucks.

Are venture (hollow) axles different than thunder? Seems like a lot more people break venture hangers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tom Pearl on April 10, 2023, 10:15:06 AM
Deluxe hooked it up fat, they gave me all this shit for free


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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 10, 2023, 12:10:40 PM
So sick….awesome they came through…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 10, 2023, 12:46:36 PM
First session on low lights.
Why are they grinding different than high hollows?
Skated park ledges and it grinds so buttery. Smiths and crookeds feek crazy good, but even some back 5-0‘s just felt somehow better.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on April 10, 2023, 02:58:34 PM
First session on low lights.
Why are they grinding different than high hollows?
Skated park ledges and it grinds so buttery. Smiths and crookeds feek crazy good, but even some back 5-0‘s just felt somehow better.
should be the same metal regardless of low or high version. you may just be enjoying the feeling of being lower to the ground and it may be helping with your grinds somehow. also lows are known for their amazing pinch on crooks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 10, 2023, 03:04:34 PM
They should be the same metal as thunder too no?  Same foundry….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 10, 2023, 03:48:20 PM
First session on low lights.
Why are they grinding different than high hollows?
Skated park ledges and it grinds so buttery. Smiths and crookeds feek crazy good, but even some back 5-0‘s just felt somehow better.


Is it the new truck "honeymoon period" where everything just feels so slick, compared to when a truck is more worn, more contact on the surface so grinds are more sticky, etc?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 10, 2023, 04:16:11 PM
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First session on low lights.
Why are they grinding different than high hollows?
Skated park ledges and it grinds so buttery. Smiths and crookeds feek crazy good, but even some back 5-0‘s just felt somehow better.
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Is it the new truck "honeymoon period" where everything just feels so slick, compared to when a truck is more worn, more contact on the surface so grinds are more sticky, etc?

Maybe man. We gon see. But I skated the deck of a friend with new indies on the same ledges yesterday and it was not close to the new ventures.

And I mean I had new trucks before those 😄
I don’t think that’s it. Maybe really the height difference. I don’t know
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 10, 2023, 05:01:06 PM
Spent 90 minutes skating a newish granite ledge, now my 5.6 are all ground down and I'm feeling like a bad ass. Must be my people love slappys.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 10, 2023, 06:09:51 PM
I have an 8" with Venture lows and it does feel like it slappies better especially slappy crook variations. I think it's the angle of the pinch since the trucks are lower/board is less of an angle towards the curb. I had the same effect when I rode Baker decks with Indy's cuz they're so fucking flat and the nose is decently long.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 10, 2023, 08:02:11 PM
Deluxe hooked it up fat, they gave me all this shit for free


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that hat is killer
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on April 10, 2023, 08:09:24 PM
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First session on low lights.
Why are they grinding different than high hollows?
Skated park ledges and it grinds so buttery. Smiths and crookeds feek crazy good, but even some back 5-0‘s just felt somehow better.
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should be the same metal regardless of low or high version. you may just be enjoying the feeling of being lower to the ground and it may be helping with your grinds somehow. also lows are known for their amazing pinch on crooks

true true
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 10, 2023, 08:21:35 PM
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First session on low lights.
Why are they grinding different than high hollows?
Skated park ledges and it grinds so buttery. Smiths and crookeds feek crazy good, but even some back 5-0‘s just felt somehow better.
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Is it the new truck "honeymoon period" where everything just feels so slick, compared to when a truck is more worn, more contact on the surface so grinds are more sticky, etc?
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Maybe man. We gon see. But I skated the deck of a friend with new indies on the same ledges yesterday and it was not close to the new ventures.

And I mean I had new trucks before those 😄
I don’t think that’s it. Maybe really the height difference. I don’t know


Yeah for sure.

From new, I feel like Indy are the most rounded of the trucks, more width and just power through everything is the way they ride, but both Venture and Thunder are so narrow and minimal in the grind surface when new, I recall some dudes having to scrape wax off things when they got new Venture or Thunder trucks as they were slipping out as the grind was too quick for what they were used to, then when they wore in and the narrow edge and grind surface became more worn, it was back to the usual wax on things.

Funny how that works, more so on Thunder, but still happens on Venture, which makes everything feel so buttery if it is well waxed.

See how you go anyway.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Festivus on April 10, 2023, 09:46:13 PM
Figured this would be the best place to ask, would anyone have an interest in a list of information/photos of all the Venture's throughout the '90s? Over the years I've collected every size of the Featherlites from 7.5" to the elusive 8.5"

It'll be a lot of photos, so I'm not sure if I should do it here in this thread (assuming people are interested) or if I should create a separate thread for all of it.


Could be a cool definitive list for any Venture heads here.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 10, 2023, 10:00:48 PM
Figured this would be the best place to ask, would anyone have an interest in a list of information/photos of all the Venture's throughout the '90s? Over the years I've collected every size of the Featherlites from 7.5" to the elusive 8.5"

It'll be a lot of photos, so I'm not sure if I should do it here in this thread (assuming people are interested) or if I should create a separate thread for all of it.


Could be a cool definitive list for any Venture heads here.


Oh here for sure


You got the mids!?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 11, 2023, 02:27:39 AM
Figured this would be the best place to ask, would anyone have an interest in a list of information/photos of all the Venture's throughout the '90s? Over the years I've collected every size of the Featherlites from 7.5" to the elusive 8.5"

It'll be a lot of photos, so I'm not sure if I should do it here in this thread (assuming people are interested) or if I should create a separate thread for all of it.


Could be a cool definitive list for any Venture heads here.


Always interesting to see something like that, especially the 8.5s.

At what point did they go from six hole baseplate back to only four holes?  I know it was about 1992 or so that they came out with them, as people were drilling them back well before that anyway, but I was thinking it was up until about 1998 that the six hole baseplates were standard on everything, then dropped off when things changed a whole lot just before 2000s.

Always happy to be corrected in timelines as well.

Thanks.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YeoWhattup on April 11, 2023, 04:05:50 PM
Figured this would be the best place to ask, would anyone have an interest in a list of information/photos of all the Venture's throughout the '90s? Over the years I've collected every size of the Featherlites from 7.5" to the elusive 8.5"

It'll be a lot of photos, so I'm not sure if I should do it here in this thread (assuming people are interested) or if I should create a separate thread for all of it.


Could be a cool definitive list for any Venture heads here.

I’d love to see your collection
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mr. Pickles on April 11, 2023, 04:08:17 PM
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Figured this would be the best place to ask, would anyone have an interest in a list of information/photos of all the Venture's throughout the '90s? Over the years I've collected every size of the Featherlites from 7.5" to the elusive 8.5"

It'll be a lot of photos, so I'm not sure if I should do it here in this thread (assuming people are interested) or if I should create a separate thread for all of it.


Could be a cool definitive list for any Venture heads here.
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I’d love to see your collection

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on April 12, 2023, 03:42:56 AM
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Figured this would be the best place to ask, would anyone have an interest in a list of information/photos of all the Venture's throughout the '90s? Over the years I've collected every size of the Featherlites from 7.5" to the elusive 8.5"

It'll be a lot of photos, so I'm not sure if I should do it here in this thread (assuming people are interested) or if I should create a separate thread for all of it.


Could be a cool definitive list for any Venture heads here.
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I’d love to see your collection

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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 12, 2023, 04:06:47 AM
is there any interest in a 9 inch venture?
personally dont want to switch to thunder 161 for wide decks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BL0B on April 12, 2023, 02:26:06 PM
is there any interest in a 9 inch venture?
personally dont want to switch to thunder 161 for wide decks


i'd like to see one. i wish they would only take the wings out to the 6.1's lenght. the 6.1 looks weirdly long or thicc with such long wings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 12, 2023, 10:08:12 PM
I have one more 8.25 to burn through before I take a step down to 5.2’s……looking forward to it….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on April 12, 2023, 11:32:30 PM
is there any interest in a 9 inch venture?
personally dont want to switch to thunder 161 for wide decks

6.1’s are good up to 9.5” boards if you extend out with super wide/offset wheels. I’ve got a setup using them, will need to get harder bushings for the same turn feel though.

But sure I’d love to see an Alva, Beemer or Zip Zogger with the classic V’s on…. Would be sick.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Festivus on April 13, 2023, 03:34:27 AM
You got the mids!?
I do, although they're technically the same as the high's, they were just named Midlites until the late '90s.

At what point did they go from six hole baseplate back to only four holes?
To my knowledge, they surprisingly kept the 6 hole pattern until 2001ish, I can't confirm that 100% but after lots of extensive searching through ads & catalogs, it's what I'm fairly certain of.

I actually have a set or two from when they made the switch, and the casting was pretty sloppy on them.


I'm glad to see there's some interest in the trucks & the history! I'll try and go through some boxes and find everything sometime this month and get everything uploaded here.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 13, 2023, 12:22:41 PM
From high to low ; how long to get used to it?

Second little session and it’s a bit different.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on April 13, 2023, 12:49:40 PM
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is there any interest in a 9 inch venture?
personally dont want to switch to thunder 161 for wide decks
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6.1’s are good up to 9.5” boards if you extend out with super wide/offset wheels. I’ve got a setup using them, will need to get harder bushings for the same turn feel though.

But sure I’d love to see an Alva, Beemer or Zip Zogger with the classic V’s on…. Would be sick.

(https://i.ibb.co/Qv5M28X/6-D8-D4862-FE20-46-C3-A60-E-CBC0-D4-A5-FFD2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Qv5M28X)

Venture 6.1s are absolutely perfect on a Zogger
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 13, 2023, 06:39:50 PM
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You got the mids!?
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I do, although they're technically the same as the high's, they were just named Midlites until the late '90s.

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At what point did they go from six hole baseplate back to only four holes?
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To my knowledge, they surprisingly kept the 6 hole pattern until 2001ish, I can't confirm that 100% but after lots of extensive searching through ads & catalogs, it's what I'm fairly certain of.

I actually have a set or two from when they made the switch, and the casting was pretty sloppy on them.


I'm glad to see there's some interest in the trucks & the history! I'll try and go through some boxes and find everything sometime this month and get everything uploaded here.


So good!!!


I have quite a few sets from over the years, some older than others, mainly from here and there from when people left parts and old sets at the shop, but I have seen some amazing sets on ebay and other places, some quite cheap too.

Even going back through this thread and seeing the ones people have put up, or pics of people skating them is rad too.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on April 14, 2023, 07:12:44 AM
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is there any interest in a 9 inch venture?
personally dont want to switch to thunder 161 for wide decks
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6.1’s are good up to 9.5” boards if you extend out with super wide/offset wheels. I’ve got a setup using them, will need to get harder bushings for the same turn feel though.

But sure I’d love to see an Alva, Beemer or Zip Zogger with the classic V’s on…. Would be sick.
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(https://i.ibb.co/Qv5M28X/6-D8-D4862-FE20-46-C3-A60-E-CBC0-D4-A5-FFD2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Qv5M28X)

Venture 6.1s are absolutely perfect on a Zogger

i need a Zogger ASAP
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on April 14, 2023, 07:15:15 AM
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is there any interest in a 9 inch venture?
personally dont want to switch to thunder 161 for wide decks
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6.1’s are good up to 9.5” boards if you extend out with super wide/offset wheels. I’ve got a setup using them, will need to get harder bushings for the same turn feel though.

But sure I’d love to see an Alva, Beemer or Zip Zogger with the classic V’s on…. Would be sick.
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(https://i.ibb.co/Qv5M28X/6-D8-D4862-FE20-46-C3-A60-E-CBC0-D4-A5-FFD2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Qv5M28X)

Venture 6.1s are absolutely perfect on a Zogger

love this setup
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 14, 2023, 03:03:44 PM
Update to the switch from 8.5 hollow ventures to an 8“ deck with venture low lights:

Pop still not there (yet? I hope so)

When I flip trick over London gaps or over a-frames/banks the catch and landing doesn’t feel as satisfying somehow. Maybe cause I’m not used to pop and flicking. Or it’s the missing weight.

I think I miss grinds more often. Maybe this is because I’m coming from 8.5 trucks


What was your experience if you ever did such a setup switch?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Spaced Cadet on April 17, 2023, 08:55:13 AM
This might be a dumb question but what parts are adjusted on the venture low truck? Are the hangars the same on low and high trucks? I’m gonna try some 5.2 lows and was curious if the hangars could be swapped out with 5.6 or something.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 17, 2023, 09:10:08 AM
This might be a dumb question but what parts are adjusted on the venture low truck? Are the hangars the same on low and high trucks? I’m gonna try some 5.2 lows and was curious if the hangars could be swapped out with 5.6 or something.

Cast and forged baseplates are universal, the height difference between Hi and Lo is from the hanger.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Spaced Cadet on April 17, 2023, 10:23:53 AM
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This might be a dumb question but what parts are adjusted on the venture low truck? Are the hangars the same on low and high trucks? I’m gonna try some 5.2 lows and was curious if the hangars could be swapped out with 5.6 or something.
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Cast and forged baseplates are universal, the height difference between Hi and Lo is from the hanger.

Good to know. Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SlapMcKracken on April 17, 2023, 12:56:30 PM
I give up on lo‘s.
Fourth session and my pop is not there.
I mean everything works; but feels like sh.

360 Flips for example. Maybe it’s a tail length thing, cause GX 8“ have short tails. Maybe it’s too flat. I don’t know.

But I’ll go back to high‘s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 17, 2023, 04:15:54 PM
I give up on lo‘s.
Fourth session and my pop is not there.
I mean everything works; but feels like sh.

360 Flips for example. Maybe it’s a tail length thing, cause GX 8“ have short tails. Maybe it’s too flat. I don’t know.

But I’ll go back to high‘s.

Lo’s ain’t for quitters
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on April 17, 2023, 08:48:20 PM
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I give up on lo‘s.
Fourth session and my pop is not there.
I mean everything works; but feels like sh.

360 Flips for example. Maybe it’s a tail length thing, cause GX 8“ have short tails. Maybe it’s too flat. I don’t know.

But I’ll go back to high‘s.
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Lo’s ain’t for quitters

amen to that
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 17, 2023, 09:31:10 PM
i think it takes a certain pedigree to skate those trucks...and I ain't it.....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 17, 2023, 09:42:44 PM
My snarky jokes aside, what fucks with me the most with the lo’s…is only skating 50s.

The pop gets easier, but lots of folks report not being able to get up as high, with the lo’s. Some legends of pop make/made it happen with em tho.

The pop is less tiring for me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 19, 2023, 12:19:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geTeaAQv3WA

He was on 5.2 Lo for his new 8.125, now he's back on the 5.6
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on April 19, 2023, 03:59:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geTeaAQv3WA

He was on 5.2 Lo for his new 8.125, now he's back on the 5.6
I guess he's not cut out for the lo life. HA! Jk
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 19, 2023, 04:37:18 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geTeaAQv3WA

He was on 5.2 Lo for his new 8.125, now he's back on the 5.6
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I guess he's not cut out for the lo life. HA! Jk

P-Rod is a quitter confirmed

5.2 Lo are the best 8.0 truck - change my mind!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on April 19, 2023, 05:41:53 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geTeaAQv3WA

He was on 5.2 Lo for his new 8.125, now he's back on the 5.6
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I guess he's not cut out for the lo life. HA! Jk
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P-Rod is a quitter confirmed

5.2 Lo are the best 8.0 truck - change my mind!

I've changed back to 5.0 lows on my 7.75s and I love it

Wanna get 5.2 highs for my baker 8.125 because I'm a sadist. Forget how they feel but should be fun
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 19, 2023, 07:00:55 AM
Went back to 5.8 forged from 5.6 cast on a 8.38, I definitely liking a truck wider than my deck for stability and a controlled flip.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on April 19, 2023, 07:09:29 AM
i think hardly any pro's skate lows... probably was more in the 90s but nowadays seems pretty rare
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 19, 2023, 07:40:30 AM
i think hardly any pro's skate lows... probably was more in the 90s but nowadays seems pretty rare


Yeah I’m not sure who does

Yuto
Westgate
Puleo
PJ
Gino (may have switched)

I’m sure there is more I’m forgetting.
My obsession with the lo’s absolutely comes from the era when stuff was the most exciting for me, and lo’s were THE truck. Pops, Lavar, Puleo, Mariano, Koston, Gino, Kareem, Stevie, Janoski, Wade, AVE, dill, fuckin damn near the whole cast of trilogy.
Lots of
Folks switched up/sized up. In my general area the popular switch seemed to be 5.0 lo’s on a 7.5-7.75, to indy 139s on an 8”, and then again to indy 149s on an 8.25 deck. Now things are less uniform. I also am VERY disconnected from any skate scene.
When I get on the 5.25 lo’s, it always feels normal. I switch things around a lot because I am unwell. As I’ve said many a time, needing to skate a 50-51 wheel is kinda tough.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 19, 2023, 07:45:08 AM
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i think hardly any pro's skate lows... probably was more in the 90s but nowadays seems pretty rare
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Yeah I’m not sure who does

Yuto
Westgate
Puleo
PJ
Gino (may have switched)

I’m sure there is more I’m forgetting.
My obsession with the lo’s absolutely comes from the era when stuff was the most exciting for me, and lo’s were THE truck. Pops, Lavar, Puleo, Mariano, Koston, Gino, Kareem, Stevie, Janoski, Wade, AVE, dill, fuckin damn near the whole cast of trilogy.
Lots of
Folks switched up/sized up. In my general area the popular switch seemed to be 5.0 lo’s on a 7.5-7.75, to indy 139s on an 8”, and then again to indy 149s on an 8.25 deck. Now things are less uniform. I also am VERY disconnected from any skate scene.
When I get on the 5.25 lo’s, it always feels normal. I switch things around a lot because I am unwell. As I’ve said many a time, needing to skate a 50-51 wheel is kinda tough.

I heard that Bob switched to indys then thunders.

Gino is riding thunders I think too
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on April 19, 2023, 08:02:49 AM
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i think hardly any pro's skate lows... probably was more in the 90s but nowadays seems pretty rare
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Yeah I’m not sure who does

Yuto
Westgate
Puleo
PJ
Gino (may have switched)

I’m sure there is more I’m forgetting.
My obsession with the lo’s absolutely comes from the era when stuff was the most exciting for me, and lo’s were THE truck. Pops, Lavar, Puleo, Mariano, Koston, Gino, Kareem, Stevie, Janoski, Wade, AVE, dill, fuckin damn near the whole cast of trilogy.
Lots of
Folks switched up/sized up. In my general area the popular switch seemed to be 5.0 lo’s on a 7.5-7.75, to indy 139s on an 8”, and then again to indy 149s on an 8.25 deck. Now things are less uniform. I also am VERY disconnected from any skate scene.
When I get on the 5.25 lo’s, it always feels normal. I switch things around a lot because I am unwell. As I’ve said many a time, needing to skate a 50-51 wheel is kinda tough.

lol thats funny that you say the cast of trilogy becuase when i think of Lo's I think of 20 shot seq and mouse straight away as well hahaha

never thought of pops and janoski on lows but that makes sense thinking back how they look on the board
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on April 19, 2023, 08:10:14 AM
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i think hardly any pro's skate lows... probably was more in the 90s but nowadays seems pretty rare
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Yeah I’m not sure who does

Yuto
Westgate
Puleo
PJ
Gino (may have switched)

I’m sure there is more I’m forgetting.
My obsession with the lo’s absolutely comes from the era when stuff was the most exciting for me, and lo’s were THE truck. Pops, Lavar, Puleo, Mariano, Koston, Gino, Kareem, Stevie, Janoski, Wade, AVE, dill, fuckin damn near the whole cast of trilogy.
Lots of
Folks switched up/sized up. In my general area the popular switch seemed to be 5.0 lo’s on a 7.5-7.75, to indy 139s on an 8”, and then again to indy 149s on an 8.25 deck. Now things are less uniform. I also am VERY disconnected from any skate scene.
When I get on the 5.25 lo’s, it always feels normal. I switch things around a lot because I am unwell. As I’ve said many a time, needing to skate a 50-51 wheel is kinda tough.
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I heard that Bob switched to indys then thunders.

Gino is riding thunders I think too

Puleo has dropped a bunch of footage in the past month, still smooth as hell, still on venture lo.
Gino also still on Venture, in the Poets/Chico colab and Adidas shoe footage.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on April 19, 2023, 08:15:20 AM
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i think hardly any pro's skate lows... probably was more in the 90s but nowadays seems pretty rare
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Yeah I’m not sure who does

Yuto
Westgate
Puleo
PJ
Gino (may have switched)

I’m sure there is more I’m forgetting.
My obsession with the lo’s absolutely comes from the era when stuff was the most exciting for me, and lo’s were THE truck. Pops, Lavar, Puleo, Mariano, Koston, Gino, Kareem, Stevie, Janoski, Wade, AVE, dill, fuckin damn near the whole cast of trilogy.
Lots of
Folks switched up/sized up. In my general area the popular switch seemed to be 5.0 lo’s on a 7.5-7.75, to indy 139s on an 8”, and then again to indy 149s on an 8.25 deck. Now things are less uniform. I also am VERY disconnected from any skate scene.
When I get on the 5.25 lo’s, it always feels normal. I switch things around a lot because I am unwell. As I’ve said many a time, needing to skate a 50-51 wheel is kinda tough.

I've been watching TX instagram, dudes still so good, gotta be 40, and still on skinny board, 5.0 lo.
This casual/IG kinda compilation from a few months back was just nuts (starts at around 1minute, after the throwback stuff).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKu5h3tM9eI
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 19, 2023, 08:17:59 AM
I have it queued up but I think prod just posted a vid of his set up….haven’t watched the whole thing but he talks about trying lows….

It’s in Ben D’s mix…..I still think it takes a certain type of skater….the high’s I recognize now as actually a good all round truck….I can be inspired by pros but honestly….they might as well be a different species of human compared to my level of skating….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 19, 2023, 08:37:25 AM
lows are definitely for the quick footed
the pop and flick are damn near simultaneous
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 19, 2023, 09:02:36 AM
Paul's setup videos are actually pretty good to paint to.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on April 19, 2023, 10:20:39 AM
From high to low ; how long to get used to it?

Second little session and it’s a bit different.

Am I weird that I can jump between standard LOs and any HI with a forged baseplate with little or no adjustment?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on April 19, 2023, 11:03:59 AM
some people are just really adaptable, and others are incredibly sensitive to any sort of change.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on April 19, 2023, 12:06:56 PM
Anyone skate baker og mellow 8.125 with 5.2 hollow highs ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on April 19, 2023, 01:07:59 PM
Anyone skate baker og mellow 8.125 with 5.2 hollow highs ?
I've skated Baker og mellow 8.0's on 5.2 & 5.6 Venture cast highs. I'm sure it's fine on forged plates, but I just prefer cast plates on 14.25" wb
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on April 23, 2023, 03:40:39 PM
Anyone else enjoyed 5.2 lows on an 8.25 or higher?
I loved them on an 8.25, just put two washer between each wheel and hanger and it looked and felt really nice!

Would love to see some photos!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on April 23, 2023, 06:17:02 PM
Anyone else enjoyed 5.2 lows on an 8.25 or higher?
I loved them on an 8.25, just put two washer between each wheel and hanger and it looked and felt really nice!

Would love to see some photos!

i put some on an 8.75 a while back and had a stupid good time, felt like i was riding on the back of a giant cockroach
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Spaced Cadet on April 24, 2023, 07:47:56 AM
I’ve been going through the madness recently with varying boards and trucks but lately I’ve settled on a 8.25 14wb Alien with 148 thunder lights. I couldn’t get venture highs to work but I wanted to try venture lows before I gave up on venture entirely.

Honestly trying the venture lows felt awful lol. My pop felt too hindered and the wheel bite seemed pretty bad. So I decided to throw on some 1/8 DLX wood risers I had to see if that helps. It actually felt pretty damn good. The height is still in between a hi and lo venture and is very close to a thunder which I was already enjoying.

So basically I made a venture mid or a thunder with worse kingpin clearance lol. Not sure which a prefer overall yet but I thought it was funny that putting risers on some venture lows was the only way I could get ventures to work for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 24, 2023, 08:18:42 AM
I’ve been going through the madness recently with varying boards and trucks but lately I’ve settled on a 8.25 14wb Alien with 148 thunder lights. I couldn’t get venture highs to work but I wanted to try venture lows before I gave up on venture entirely.

Honestly trying the venture lows felt awful lol. My pop felt too hindered and the wheel bite seemed pretty bad. So I decided to throw on some 1/8 DLX wood risers I had to see if that helps. It actually felt pretty damn good. The height is still in between a hi and lo venture and is very close to a thunder which I was already enjoying.

So basically I made a venture mid or a thunder with worse kingpin clearance lol. Not sure which a prefer overall yet but I thought it was funny that putting risers on some venture lows was the only way I could get ventures to work for me.

You mean the 8.25 x 14.24 x 32.25?

Had the opposite experience where the lower height resulted in a better experience, went from Cast + 54mm to Forged + 53mm, flip tricks were back and the pop was more controlled.

But all this talk has got me thinking about giving Thunder another go.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Spaced Cadet on April 24, 2023, 08:35:53 AM
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I’ve been going through the madness recently with varying boards and trucks but lately I’ve settled on a 8.25 14wb Alien with 148 thunder lights. I couldn’t get venture highs to work but I wanted to try venture lows before I gave up on venture entirely.

Honestly trying the venture lows felt awful lol. My pop felt too hindered and the wheel bite seemed pretty bad. So I decided to throw on some 1/8 DLX wood risers I had to see if that helps. It actually felt pretty damn good. The height is still in between a hi and lo venture and is very close to a thunder which I was already enjoying.

So basically I made a venture mid or a thunder with worse kingpin clearance lol. Not sure which a prefer overall yet but I thought it was funny that putting risers on some venture lows was the only way I could get ventures to work for me.
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You mean the 8.25 x 14.24 x 32.25?

Had the opposite experience where the lower height resulted in a better experience, went from Cast + 54mm to Forged + 53mm, flip tricks were back and the pop was more controlled.

But all this talk has got me thinking about giving Thunder another go.

Nah Alien made a 8.25 14wb (don’t remember the length) deck like a year ago and I’ve been sitting on it. Not sure why they haven’t really made many since then.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oliknight on April 24, 2023, 03:06:28 PM
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Anyone else enjoyed 5.2 lows on an 8.25 or higher?
I loved them on an 8.25, just put two washer between each wheel and hanger and it looked and felt really nice!

Would love to see some photos!
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i put some on an 8.75 a while back and had a stupid good time, felt like i was riding on the back of a giant cockroach

Hahah that’s wild! But to be honest not too dissimilar from what Andrew Reynolds was doing with the 139 Indy’s!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 24, 2023, 04:09:51 PM
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Anyone else enjoyed 5.2 lows on an 8.25 or higher?
I loved them on an 8.25, just put two washer between each wheel and hanger and it looked and felt really nice!

Would love to see some photos!
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i put some on an 8.75 a while back and had a stupid good time, felt like i was riding on the back of a giant cockroach
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Hahah that’s wild! But to be honest not too dissimilar from what Andrew Reynolds was doing with the 139 Indy’s!
what you mean? He's on a smaller truck too. I'd like to know more about AR's board plz
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: brownjenkin on April 24, 2023, 04:20:28 PM
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Anyone else enjoyed 5.2 lows on an 8.25 or higher?
I loved them on an 8.25, just put two washer between each wheel and hanger and it looked and felt really nice!

Would love to see some photos!
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i put some on an 8.75 a while back and had a stupid good time, felt like i was riding on the back of a giant cockroach
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Hahah that’s wild! But to be honest not too dissimilar from what Andrew Reynolds was doing with the 139 Indy’s!
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what you mean? He's on a smaller truck too. I'd like to know more about AR's board plz

He used to ride 8.5s on 139s. I think Greco was even more nuts and had 129s on some pretty wide boards.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 24, 2023, 04:56:41 PM
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Anyone else enjoyed 5.2 lows on an 8.25 or higher?
I loved them on an 8.25, just put two washer between each wheel and hanger and it looked and felt really nice!

Would love to see some photos!
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i put some on an 8.75 a while back and had a stupid good time, felt like i was riding on the back of a giant cockroach
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Hahah that’s wild! But to be honest not too dissimilar from what Andrew Reynolds was doing with the 139 Indy’s!
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what you mean? He's on a smaller truck too. I'd like to know more about AR's board plz
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He used to ride 8.5s on 139s. I think Greco was even more nuts and had 129s on some pretty wide boards.
That's pretty cool. I wonder which wheel shape he was on at that time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on April 24, 2023, 07:38:14 PM
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Anyone else enjoyed 5.2 lows on an 8.25 or higher?
I loved them on an 8.25, just put two washer between each wheel and hanger and it looked and felt really nice!

Would love to see some photos!
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i put some on an 8.75 a while back and had a stupid good time, felt like i was riding on the back of a giant cockroach
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Hahah that’s wild! But to be honest not too dissimilar from what Andrew Reynolds was doing with the 139 Indy’s!
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what you mean? He's on a smaller truck too. I'd like to know more about AR's board plz
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He used to ride 8.5s on 139s. I think Greco was even more nuts and had 129s on some pretty wide boards.
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That's pretty cool. I wonder which wheel shape he was on at that time.

Always Classics.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Nth syd bear on April 26, 2023, 01:52:03 AM
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I’ve been going through the madness recently with varying boards and trucks but lately I’ve settled on a 8.25 14wb Alien with 148 thunder lights. I couldn’t get venture highs to work but I wanted to try venture lows before I gave up on venture entirely.

Honestly trying the venture lows felt awful lol. My pop felt too hindered and the wheel bite seemed pretty bad. So I decided to throw on some 1/8 DLX wood risers I had to see if that helps. It actually felt pretty damn good. The height is still in between a hi and lo venture and is very close to a thunder which I was already enjoying.

So basically I made a venture mid or a thunder with worse kingpin clearance lol. Not sure which a prefer overall yet but I thought it was funny that putting risers on some venture lows was the only way I could get ventures to work for me.
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You mean the 8.25 x 14.24 x 32.25?

Had the opposite experience where the lower height resulted in a better experience, went from Cast + 54mm to Forged + 53mm, flip tricks were back and the pop was more controlled.

But all this talk has got me thinking about giving Thunder another go.

Many of you switch between lows and highs comfortably ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 26, 2023, 06:09:58 AM
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I’ve been going through the madness recently with varying boards and trucks but lately I’ve settled on a 8.25 14wb Alien with 148 thunder lights. I couldn’t get venture highs to work but I wanted to try venture lows before I gave up on venture entirely.

Honestly trying the venture lows felt awful lol. My pop felt too hindered and the wheel bite seemed pretty bad. So I decided to throw on some 1/8 DLX wood risers I had to see if that helps. It actually felt pretty damn good. The height is still in between a hi and lo venture and is very close to a thunder which I was already enjoying.

So basically I made a venture mid or a thunder with worse kingpin clearance lol. Not sure which a prefer overall yet but I thought it was funny that putting risers on some venture lows was the only way I could get ventures to work for me.
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You mean the 8.25 x 14.24 x 32.25?

Had the opposite experience where the lower height resulted in a better experience, went from Cast + 54mm to Forged + 53mm, flip tricks were back and the pop was more controlled.

But all this talk has got me thinking about giving Thunder another go.
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Many of you switch between lows and highs comfortably ?
Not if I can avoid it, I'll switch up the baseplate depending on the deck length and wheelbase, anything shorter than 32 and I'm on cast. For wheels I'm liking 53mm since they are the unwanted step child size and they wear down to 52mm eventually, 54mm feel too tall initially and it kills my appreciation of them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on April 26, 2023, 06:28:43 AM
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Anyone else enjoyed 5.2 lows on an 8.25 or higher?
I loved them on an 8.25, just put two washer between each wheel and hanger and it looked and felt really nice!

Would love to see some photos!
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i put some on an 8.75 a while back and had a stupid good time, felt like i was riding on the back of a giant cockroach
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Hahah that’s wild! But to be honest not too dissimilar from what Andrew Reynolds was doing with the 139 Indy’s!
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what you mean? He's on a smaller truck too. I'd like to know more about AR's board plz
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He used to ride 8.5s on 139s. I think Greco was even more nuts and had 129s on some pretty wide boards.
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That's pretty cool. I wonder which wheel shape he was on at that time.

50mm Parkburners (98du). There's another set up video and Reynolds is also rocking 50mm Parkburners (the green ones) but I can't find that video, but also from about 10yrs back, so it mustn't have been a one off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4fMAmNlSfo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on April 26, 2023, 06:37:36 AM
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I’ve been going through the madness recently with varying boards and trucks but lately I’ve settled on a 8.25 14wb Alien with 148 thunder lights. I couldn’t get venture highs to work but I wanted to try venture lows before I gave up on venture entirely.

Honestly trying the venture lows felt awful lol. My pop felt too hindered and the wheel bite seemed pretty bad. So I decided to throw on some 1/8 DLX wood risers I had to see if that helps. It actually felt pretty damn good. The height is still in between a hi and lo venture and is very close to a thunder which I was already enjoying.

So basically I made a venture mid or a thunder with worse kingpin clearance lol. Not sure which a prefer overall yet but I thought it was funny that putting risers on some venture lows was the only way I could get ventures to work for me.
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You mean the 8.25 x 14.24 x 32.25?

Had the opposite experience where the lower height resulted in a better experience, went from Cast + 54mm to Forged + 53mm, flip tricks were back and the pop was more controlled.

But all this talk has got me thinking about giving Thunder another go.
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Many of you switch between lows and highs comfortably ?

Yeah, I have two setups running now, 8.5 with 5.8s and 8 with 5.2lo, and I just grab the one I'm feeling on the day depending, and truck wise  (besides the height obviously) it's not so that different in the turn/wb so I get used to it pretty quick. However, when I change out to Thunders or Indy, it really throws me off and it's a whole learning process to reconnect everything, pop timing flick etc. So I'm quite enjoying the ventures also because I can change it up without complexly throwing me off. All that said, obviously it's a very noticeable difference and I do need to adjust, I ride sub 50mm so that probably also helps when switching between hi and lo, and keep it turny even when skating lo's.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Nth syd bear on April 26, 2023, 07:00:57 AM
Thanks,  appreciate the answers

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 26, 2023, 08:46:08 AM
Been procrastinating changing my bushing, both top bushings are cracked and are so worn in, I'm riding them way tighter than I usually do to avoid ghost pop. But new bushings are the worst!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ChuckRamone on April 26, 2023, 01:23:37 PM
For those who made the switch from Indys to Ventures, how was it? I know the turn and wb are different and it's sort of a turning vs stability tradeoff but do you think it was worth it? Do you plan on sticking with Ventures?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on April 26, 2023, 03:32:46 PM
For those who made the switch from Indys to Ventures, how was it? I know the turn and wb are different and it's sort of a turning vs stability tradeoff but do you think it was worth it? Do you plan on sticking with Ventures?

I went from Indy to ventures. I enjoyed the Indy’s. But I wanted to try the cast hollow ventures. For me it was easier to go from Indy to venture than Indy to thunder. Maybe a day or so to adjust but the adjustment didn’t ruin my session. Where sometimes changing trucks my timing will be off etc. it was easier for me to adjust to ventures than a new pair of shoes.  Than takes me a few sessions.

I enjoy the venture stability. The turn isn’t as bad as people imply either. It’s delayed but not that bad.

I plan on sticking with venture for a bit. At least until these are toast I don’t really have an allegiance to any truck company. I enjoyed Royal quite a bit but as bad as it sounds I felt dorky skating them and so I went back to Indy then to venture. Venture pop is nice too but I haven’t got nollie popping how I’d like but when I get a good one it’s higher than normal for me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: brownjenkin on April 26, 2023, 08:39:05 PM
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For me it was easier to go from Indy to venture than Indy to thunder.

I feel the same way. I can go back and forth between Indy and Venture with pretty much no problem on most decks in under a session. Going from Indy to Thunder is jarring and I struggle.

Indys tend to feel better on most boards for me so I spend more time on them. On the boards that Ventures feel good, though, they feel the best. The stability while setting up and the pop is really good. I don't find the turn is as bad as some think. You just have to lean into it more.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 26, 2023, 09:49:12 PM
I'm the complete opposite. Indy to Thunder takes 10min, anything to Venture takes longer it seems. Thunder to Venture is actually easiest for me. I also rode Indy FH a lot if that somehow matters. When I switched back to Thunder last summer after 9 months on Indy there was almost no adjustment time at all and I was skating better on them within 15min. Ventures always take a sesh or two for certain tricks mostly straight on kickflips (tre flips are easier on em somehow) and nollie stuff. Fakie always pops higher.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 27, 2023, 03:02:56 PM
yuto v hollows
available in 5.2 hi and 5.6
available real soon
(https://i.ibb.co/FHcKrm2/B338-DAF6-A858-4710-BA9-D-71551-AA53-D7-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xFwDkXW)
(https://i.ibb.co/Tb8bJMg/496-D6-DA3-BFEB-47-A6-89-D6-503-C665-AC3-ED.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1dqdBGm)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 27, 2023, 03:31:26 PM
^^ those are fire

Great Wave into the V...damn
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 27, 2023, 05:21:25 PM
Weird they made them in sizes Yuto doesn't skate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 27, 2023, 06:17:46 PM
Weird they made them in sizes Yuto doesn't skate.


But sizes that will sell.

:)


* Looked it up and someone had said "5.2 Venture Lows with Bones Hardcore hard bushings."

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 27, 2023, 07:58:04 PM
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Weird they made them in sizes Yuto doesn't skate.
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But sizes that will sell.



No doubt...nothing new, it's the same reason why you see 'pro' boards or wheels in sizes said pros don't actually skate..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 27, 2023, 07:59:17 PM
I know, I know it just seems weird when it's their pro truck. Thunder and Indy seem to make the sizes their pros make but 8", 8.25", and 8.5" hi are what sell.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 27, 2023, 08:57:09 PM
I know, I know it just seems weird when it's their pro truck. Thunder and Indy seem to make the sizes their pros make but 8", 8.25", and 8.5" hi are what sell.

I agree, if I was at that level, with pro gear, I'd want my size available (to ride, homie flow, etc.).

Surely a lot of pros do that (worrest truck sizes, there's always a worrest/ishod 8.3)....but yeah, go with what sells and slap your name on it for sales...if he's riding lows, that market isn't cutting him big ass monthly checks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 27, 2023, 10:49:15 PM
Prod has 5.2 hollow lows, maybe the wanted a pro to have a 5.2 high? 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 27, 2023, 11:42:35 PM
Prod has 5.2 hollow lows, maybe the wanted a pro to have a 5.2 high? 

Chandler Burton says hi.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: burner on April 28, 2023, 05:35:19 AM
Weird they made them in sizes Yuto doesn't skate.

Agree with you, gotta make em also in the pro’s size or it’s just too cynical. Surprised they didn’t.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 28, 2023, 12:21:47 PM
For those who made the switch from Indys to Ventures, how was it? I know the turn and wb are different and it's sort of a turning vs stability tradeoff but do you think it was worth it? Do you plan on sticking with Ventures?

I switched to Venture and ace from Indy at the same time..

The main reason I'm staying with Ventures over ace and indys is the pop feeling.

I mainly rode thunders growing up. Thunders have a lightning fast BANG of a pop.
Once I got my Ventures feeling more like my Aces in looseness it was a wrap. Same pop feeling same looseness as my Ace 44s but better stability and way less wheel bit than all other brands I've tried.

Even though my front trucks jingling and my back trucks nuts are always loose and ovaling my plate I feel confident I'll make it to the bottom of the hill no significant wobble. that back truck is getting dodgy tho. I gotta fix that rn while I'm thinking about it. 

I was mainly riding the Ace in cold weather anyway. I don't like their new truck too. The classic 44 and 33 was sick tho.

The one down side of Venture is how fast I can get to axle. Especially my back 50 groove. Shit looking a little like a Gullwing now and they are not that old. I think I started riding them on December 7th. Pearl Harbor Day.

(https://i.ibb.co/vhCPKbw/IMG-20230428-145347-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PMshfRm)
(https://i.ibb.co/GdMBVXj/IMG-20230428-145022.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2FMmjwB)
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This is only about 4 months of wear. I bet I get like a total of 9 months out of this set. I have kinda a lot of axle showing this time and Im low key embarrassed I've barely done any tail sliding ::).  I did make a few curbs in that time.
I ain't worried.
It's worth it AF. There's only one truck that is 99.6 perfect.

Other trucks last longer but the feeling is the most important thing. Also made in sf. I don't wanna buy more Chinese crap than I absolute need to.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 28, 2023, 12:28:46 PM
yuto v hollows
available in 5.2 hi and 5.6
available real soon
(https://i.ibb.co/FHcKrm2/B338-DAF6-A858-4710-BA9-D-71551-AA53-D7-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xFwDkXW)
(https://i.ibb.co/Tb8bJMg/496-D6-DA3-BFEB-47-A6-89-D6-503-C665-AC3-ED.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1dqdBGm)

I love these. My green bushings ain't gonna work here tho. I'd be incredibly bummed out looking at that colour combo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 28, 2023, 01:02:39 PM
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yuto v hollows
available in 5.2 hi and 5.6
available real soon
(https://i.ibb.co/FHcKrm2/B338-DAF6-A858-4710-BA9-D-71551-AA53-D7-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xFwDkXW)
(https://i.ibb.co/Tb8bJMg/496-D6-DA3-BFEB-47-A6-89-D6-503-C665-AC3-ED.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1dqdBGm)
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I love these. My green bushings ain't gonna work here tho. I'd be incredibly bummed out looking at that colour combo

Yeah, I'd throw in that slappy or ace low top ;)




* Looked it up and someone had said "5.2 Venture Lows with Bones Hardcore hard bushings."



Ventures.
Lows.
Bones Hard.

When you weigh a Benjamín (wet), and don't want to turn, at all...yet still kill it...not sure there is a tighter truck combo in existence.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Made In China on April 28, 2023, 05:09:16 PM
For those who made the switch from Indys to Ventures, how was it? I know the turn and wb are different and it's sort of a turning vs stability tradeoff but do you think it was worth it? Do you plan on sticking with Ventures?
I just made the switch recently after essentially only skating Indys since my first "real" set up. It honestly only took me a session or so to get used to the Ventures, and I'm really liking how they feel. They're responsive and grind great. It's nice to have a lighter set up too. And I agree with everyone so far, the difference in turning isn't nearly as bad as most people say it is. I have the stock white bushings in mine with the nut pretty loose and they don't feel that different from my old Indys anymore. I'm a little curious about the loose conversion kit but I don't think I need them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on April 28, 2023, 05:48:04 PM
I’m curious about lights or hollows, but considering I typically skate decks with ~14.5” wheelbases, I fear the forged base plates will push my wheelbase into uncomfortable territory.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on April 28, 2023, 06:21:38 PM
I’m curious about lights or hollows, but considering I typically skate decks with ~14.5” wheelbases, I fear the forged base plates will push my wheelbase into uncomfortable territory.

If you can find them The kaders or ted barrow ones are hollows on a cast plate. Which I think puts them at about a thunder. Maybe a hair longer.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on April 28, 2023, 06:30:32 PM
Oh snap! Now this is an option. Alternatively, I suppose if I can’t find either of those, I could get lights or hollows and toss the light or hollow hangers onto my current cast baseplates, but I was hoping to avoid making Frankentrucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on April 28, 2023, 06:38:49 PM
Oh snap! Now this is an option. Alternatively, I suppose if I can’t find either of those, I could get lights or hollows and toss the light or hollow hangers onto my current cast baseplates, but I was hoping to avoid making Frankentrucks.

if you buy those you'd just be getting "official" frankentrucks so don't feel too awkward about it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on April 29, 2023, 04:45:06 AM
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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 29, 2023, 06:50:19 AM
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I switched to Venture and ace from Indy at the same time..

The main reason I'm staying with Ventures over ace and indys is the pop feeling.

I mainly rode thunders growing up. Thunders have a lightning fast BANG of a pop.
Once I got my Ventures feeling more like my Aces in looseness it was a wrap. Same pop feeling same looseness as my Ace 44s but better stability and way less wheel bit than all other brands I've tried.

Even though my front trucks jingling and my back trucks nuts are always loose and ovaling my plate I feel confident I'll make it to the bottom of the hill no significant wobble. that back truck is getting dodgy tho. I gotta fix that rn while I'm thinking about it. 

I was mainly riding the Ace in cold weather anyway. I don't like their new truck too. The classic 44 and 33 was sick tho.

The one down side of Venture is how fast I can get to axle. Especially my back 50 groove. Shit looking a little like a Gullwing now and they are not that old. I think I started riding them on December 7th. Pearl Harbor Day.

(https://i.ibb.co/vhCPKbw/IMG-20230428-145347-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PMshfRm)
(https://i.ibb.co/GdMBVXj/IMG-20230428-145022.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2FMmjwB)
(https://i.ibb.co/BPwfQyG/IMG-20230428-144926.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kyMGw4J)
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This is only about 4 months of wear. I bet I get like a total of 9 months out of this set. I have kinda a lot of axle showing this time and Im low key embarrassed I've barely done any tail sliding ::).  I did make a few curbs in that time.
I ain't worried.
It's worth it AF. There's only one truck that is 99.6 perfect.

Other trucks last longer but the feeling is the most important thing. Also made in sf. I don't wanna buy more Chinese crap than I absolute need to.

Fairly sure Venture have moved or are moving to Mexico. Indy's seem to have a bit better quality since moving to China. Country of manufacturing doesn't always correlate with quality or labor standards.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 29, 2023, 06:53:30 AM
Man it's so weird that Venture seem to not work for me like others. With Indy I get huge pop. On my AH 8.25 Ventures felt long and clumsy after 3 sessions and my pop was not good, like oddly bad. Manuals felt horrible. They felt fine on the Passport 8:25 I had before, which is the shortest I feel OK skating at my height.

Another session I had Thunder cast on the same AH and was skating great. Put Indy Forged Ti on and could barely tell the difference other than the turn. I like the Venture stability and do like the Lows, but it's strange they just haven't panned out for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 29, 2023, 07:18:34 AM
I think how we skate, and what we skate can make a world of difference......
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 29, 2023, 07:30:14 AM
I mostly skate low impact shit- ledges about knee height and under, curbs, manny pads, small banks/carving around.

Like there's a manhole cover in front of my house. Every day I skate I skate a bit at home and ollie'ing over that is a nice warm up. With Ventures it feels like my tail doesn't suck up. Or just on flat ground things feel awkward and my kickflips rocket. There's a small sidewalk gap in front of my house as well and it feels desperate clearing that. Simple shit ya know? At the park there is a manny pad about curb height a bit higher and manuals on that feel horrible. But my other grinds and getting up on the taller ledges feels ok. Just popping over stuff feels like I'm simply not clearing it.

On Thunders or Indy's everything snaps up nice and sucks to the back foot. Nose manuals on the same pad feels great I'm not fighting to tip forward. On Indy's I especially overpop things sometimes. No rocket kickflips ever I actually ninja flip more than I rocket and often have to move my foot for a slower flick.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on April 29, 2023, 08:10:48 AM
I mostly skate low impact shit- ledges about knee height and under, curbs, manny pads, small banks/carving around.

Like there's a manhole cover in front of my house. Every day I skate I skate a bit at home and ollie'ing over that is a nice warm up. With Ventures it feels like my tail doesn't suck up. Or just on flat ground things feel awkward and my kickflips rocket. There's a small sidewalk gap in front of my house as well and it feels desperate clearing that. Simple shit ya know? At the park there is a manny pad about curb height a bit higher and manuals on that feel horrible. But my other grinds and getting up on the taller ledges feels ok. Just popping over stuff feels like I'm simply not clearing it.

On Thunders or Indy's everything snaps up nice and sucks to the back foot. Nose manuals on the same pad feels great I'm not fighting to tip forward. On Indy's I especially overpop things sometimes. No rocket kickflips ever I actually ninja flip more than I rocket and often have to move my foot for a slower flick.

just curious, do you find you change your ollie footing between truck brands?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: downtodevin on April 29, 2023, 09:50:27 AM
Just ordered the Loose Truck Bushings. Not sure how I’ll like them, but I wanted to give them a shot. Does anyone use them? What’s your verdict?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 29, 2023, 10:27:41 AM
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I mostly skate low impact shit- ledges about knee height and under, curbs, manny pads, small banks/carving around.

Like there's a manhole cover in front of my house. Every day I skate I skate a bit at home and ollie'ing over that is a nice warm up. With Ventures it feels like my tail doesn't suck up. Or just on flat ground things feel awkward and my kickflips rocket. There's a small sidewalk gap in front of my house as well and it feels desperate clearing that. Simple shit ya know? At the park there is a manny pad about curb height a bit higher and manuals on that feel horrible. But my other grinds and getting up on the taller ledges feels ok. Just popping over stuff feels like I'm simply not clearing it.

On Thunders or Indy's everything snaps up nice and sucks to the back foot. Nose manuals on the same pad feels great I'm not fighting to tip forward. On Indy's I especially overpop things sometimes. No rocket kickflips ever I actually ninja flip more than I rocket and often have to move my foot for a slower flick.
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just curious, do you find you change your ollie footing between truck brands?

Not much normally, although that's the first thing I check. I'm curious tho- how would you change yours?

And to the person wanting Venture on a 14.5 you're just asking for super heavy pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on April 29, 2023, 11:05:40 AM
Oh, if you’re referring to me perhaps I misspoke. I currently skate cast ventures on 14.5”, I was interested in trying out some of the lighter ones. Eh, although my current deck may be <14.5” because it’s 8.475, but usually I skate 8.5’s with 14.5. I guess  the pop is heavy, but it’s not noticeably different from the indys I used to skate. Or if it is, I’m putting up with it because I prefer the stability over indys flopping around.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 29, 2023, 11:32:00 AM
Crazy. I tried my Indy standards on this deck and it was night and day vs Ventures. Pop was so much better it baffles me that people find them similar.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 29, 2023, 11:44:14 AM
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For those who made the switch from Indys to Ventures, how was it? I know the turn and wb are different and it's sort of a turning vs stability tradeoff but do you think it was worth it? Do you plan on sticking with Ventures?
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I switched to Venture and ace from Indy at the same time..

The main reason I'm staying with Ventures over ace and indys is the pop feeling.

I mainly rode thunders growing up. Thunders have a lightning fast BANG of a pop.
Once I got my Ventures feeling more like my Aces in looseness it was a wrap. Same pop feeling same looseness as my Ace 44s but better stability and way less wheel bit than all other brands I've tried.

Even though my front trucks jingling and my back trucks nuts are always loose and ovaling my plate I feel confident I'll make it to the bottom of the hill no significant wobble. that back truck is getting dodgy tho. I gotta fix that rn while I'm thinking about it. 

I was mainly riding the Ace in cold weather anyway. I don't like their new truck too. The classic 44 and 33 was sick tho.

The one down side of Venture is how fast I can get to axle. Especially my back 50 groove. Shit looking a little like a Gullwing now and they are not that old. I think I started riding them on December 7th. Pearl Harbor Day.

(https://i.ibb.co/vhCPKbw/IMG-20230428-145347-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PMshfRm)
(https://i.ibb.co/GdMBVXj/IMG-20230428-145022.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2FMmjwB)
(https://i.ibb.co/BPwfQyG/IMG-20230428-144926.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kyMGw4J)
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This is only about 4 months of wear. I bet I get like a total of 9 months out of this set. I have kinda a lot of axle showing this time and Im low key embarrassed I've barely done any tail sliding ::).  I did make a few curbs in that time.
I ain't worried.
It's worth it AF. There's only one truck that is 99.6 perfect.

Other trucks last longer but the feeling is the most important thing. Also made in sf. I don't wanna buy more Chinese crap than I absolute need to.
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Fairly sure Venture have moved or are moving to Mexico. Indy's seem to have a bit better quality since moving to China. Country of manufacturing doesn't always correlate with quality or labor standards.

Im not about shipping trucks across an ocean to savea buck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 29, 2023, 12:17:03 PM
Just ordered the Loose Truck Bushings. Not sure how I’ll like them, but I wanted to give them a shot. Does anyone use them? What’s your verdict?

I've not ridden the Venture kit, but have used low tops with stock Ventures and Thunder bottoms. It helps for sure, but any low top (or a sanded down top will also work)...the bro science here is that you don't have to crank down the nut to get it flush and squash the tall bushing (making your trucks tight). It's what Slappy does with their stock bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 29, 2023, 01:28:57 PM
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For those who made the switch from Indys to Ventures, how was it? I know the turn and wb are different and it's sort of a turning vs stability tradeoff but do you think it was worth it? Do you plan on sticking with Ventures?
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I switched to Venture and ace from Indy at the same time..

The main reason I'm staying with Ventures over ace and indys is the pop feeling.

I mainly rode thunders growing up. Thunders have a lightning fast BANG of a pop.
Once I got my Ventures feeling more like my Aces in looseness it was a wrap. Same pop feeling same looseness as my Ace 44s but better stability and way less wheel bit than all other brands I've tried.

Even though my front trucks jingling and my back trucks nuts are always loose and ovaling my plate I feel confident I'll make it to the bottom of the hill no significant wobble. that back truck is getting dodgy tho. I gotta fix that rn while I'm thinking about it. 

I was mainly riding the Ace in cold weather anyway. I don't like their new truck too. The classic 44 and 33 was sick tho.

The one down side of Venture is how fast I can get to axle. Especially my back 50 groove. Shit looking a little like a Gullwing now and they are not that old. I think I started riding them on December 7th. Pearl Harbor Day.

(https://i.ibb.co/vhCPKbw/IMG-20230428-145347-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PMshfRm)
(https://i.ibb.co/GdMBVXj/IMG-20230428-145022.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2FMmjwB)
(https://i.ibb.co/BPwfQyG/IMG-20230428-144926.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kyMGw4J)
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This is only about 4 months of wear. I bet I get like a total of 9 months out of this set. I have kinda a lot of axle showing this time and Im low key embarrassed I've barely done any tail sliding ::).  I did make a few curbs in that time.
I ain't worried.
It's worth it AF. There's only one truck that is 99.6 perfect.

Other trucks last longer but the feeling is the most important thing. Also made in sf. I don't wanna buy more Chinese crap than I absolute need to.
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Fairly sure Venture have moved or are moving to Mexico. Indy's seem to have a bit better quality since moving to China. Country of manufacturing doesn't always correlate with quality or labor standards.
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Im not about shipping trucks across an ocean to savea buck.

It's not simply to save a buck- the QC is better and they can actually get the inventory they needed consistently. Ermico couldn't often meet their demands, had discrepancies in bushing quality, and they had more cracks/axle warranties there.

Also, lots of shit from Mexico is still shipped along an ocean. Shipping is often a net lower carbon footprint than trucking by land.

The only potential argument is not wanting to support China as they have some sketchy politics. We don't know what the Indy factories are like there so we are just assuming they are bad for some reason.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on April 29, 2023, 01:51:06 PM
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I mostly skate low impact shit- ledges about knee height and under, curbs, manny pads, small banks/carving around.

Like there's a manhole cover in front of my house. Every day I skate I skate a bit at home and ollie'ing over that is a nice warm up. With Ventures it feels like my tail doesn't suck up. Or just on flat ground things feel awkward and my kickflips rocket. There's a small sidewalk gap in front of my house as well and it feels desperate clearing that. Simple shit ya know? At the park there is a manny pad about curb height a bit higher and manuals on that feel horrible. But my other grinds and getting up on the taller ledges feels ok. Just popping over stuff feels like I'm simply not clearing it.

On Thunders or Indy's everything snaps up nice and sucks to the back foot. Nose manuals on the same pad feels great I'm not fighting to tip forward. On Indy's I especially overpop things sometimes. No rocket kickflips ever I actually ninja flip more than I rocket and often have to move my foot for a slower flick.
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just curious, do you find you change your ollie footing between truck brands?
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Not much normally, although that's the first thing I check. I'm curious tho- how would you change yours?

And to the person wanting Venture on a 14.5 you're just asking for super heavy pop.

i also don't change much tbh, but having seen some comments on here about people preferring their back foot closer to the tip vs closer to trucks bolts when riding ventures i thought i'd ask
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on April 29, 2023, 01:57:54 PM
I recently tried the cast hollows on a 14.5, the Chocolate Carl shape.  It was definitely heavy.  Ollies felt really solid and front 180s were solid.  Flip tricks were a little tougher.  Nose manual tricks really suffered.  For some reason, backside 180s were amazing.  Never had em that good in my life. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 29, 2023, 04:37:14 PM
Back 180s are always better for me on a heftier/longer board.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 29, 2023, 06:05:50 PM
Just ordered the Loose Truck Bushings. Not sure how I’ll like them, but I wanted to give them a shot. Does anyone use them? What’s your verdict?


Yes I got a few sets just to experiment and see how they worked, as well as passed one set around for others to try.


They are really good for two main things, with different results:

1. If the stock bushings are a bit too hard / trucks a bit too tight for what you want

2. If the trucks are really worn down and you need to have more kingpin clearance or are wearing out your kingpin nut / top bushing washer area.


Same stock bottom bushing, and just a lower top bushing of the same duro, so having the nut flush will have a very loose truck feel, then tightening it down a bit more will still give you more turn as well as a bit more kingpin clearance, or tightened down a lot will have the same feel as normal bushings and turn with a lot more clearance / almost no hang up if you grind the kiingpin down as well, either naturally or with an angle grinder.

Some of the lighter weight kids who just could not turn easily on stock bushings and others who ride super loose trucks were more in the first category, while others, myself included, were more in the second category, as I prefer lower tops with the nut done up about the same, which gives a way lower kingpin height and a lot more clearance once I angle grinded the top of the kingpin off to where I wanted it.  I could still easily get the nut on and off and had enough space to loosen it off some or tighten it down more if needed.


I know I have posted something like this before, but hopefully with key words this might be easier to look up for anyone else as well.


https://venturetrucks.net/

Venture loose trucks conversion kit (low head bushings)


(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring23/12-ve-sp23-d1-polished.jpg)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on April 29, 2023, 06:25:04 PM
Any reason why I shouldn’t just slice a regular bushing down to loose size?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Cthulhu! on April 29, 2023, 06:38:33 PM
Any reason why I shouldn’t just slice a regular bushing down to loose size?
They won't be green bushings
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 29, 2023, 06:46:32 PM
Any reason why I shouldn’t just slice a regular bushing down to loose size?


That is exactly what I have been doing for a long time, which works just fine for me cutting them down to fit whatever trucks or need that the person has, but some others had said when I had done that for them, the top bushing is too narrow and causes the truck to move around a bit more.  I tend to politely disagree, but that is down to their own experience and I know some people prefer to buy things than have to modify them at all, saving issues with messing it up or cutting a finger or whatever.

I am all for a free or low cost option with existing parts over buying new things to use - goodness knows how many sets of unwanted brand new and some used stock bushings I am sitting on from others always changing them out, most even before they leave the shop - but at least this is something that is not just a stock bushing replacement and does have a valid use or two, so I get why they have released this product and kind of wish that other brands still had low top bushings (Indy) or Thunder brought out their version as well.


The cartons of the low Indy bushings I still have from when they all went on clearance (2015-2019) are really good for my setups, not needing to cut or change anything and I can put them straight in and away I go, so I definitely get why people would want that rather than whatever modifications they might have to make.




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They won't be green bushings


Ha yeah, they did well with the OG green colour of them didn't they?!?

I know people who have bought them purely because they wanted the green bushings over anything else.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 29, 2023, 09:23:26 PM
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They won't be green bushings

Red / Purple / Green are scientifically proven to be the best colors for Venture bushings, in that order.

Never fuck with the white ones.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on April 30, 2023, 07:36:25 AM
Oh snap! Now this is an option. Alternatively, I suppose if I can’t find either of those, I could get lights or hollows and toss the light or hollow hangers onto my current cast baseplates, but I was hoping to avoid making Frankentrucks.

I put the V lights on a baker board with a 14.5 wheelbase and it actually seemed more agile than when I had the standard cast ventures awhile back. Maybe because of that small height difference. I'm also quite tall so it may affect me less but I don't think it's as bad as people say.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 30, 2023, 08:14:13 AM
Just ordered the Loose Truck Bushings. Not sure how I’ll like them, but I wanted to give them a shot. Does anyone use them? What’s your verdict?

I ride um. They're good
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manysnakes on April 30, 2023, 08:43:00 AM
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They won't be green bushings

Green is my favorite color but red better matches the deck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on April 30, 2023, 10:03:54 AM
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Oh snap! Now this is an option. Alternatively, I suppose if I can’t find either of those, I could get lights or hollows and toss the light or hollow hangers onto my current cast baseplates, but I was hoping to avoid making Frankentrucks.
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I put the V lights on a baker board with a 14.5 wheelbase and it actually seemed more agile than when I had the standard cast ventures awhile back. Maybe because of that small height difference. I'm also quite tall so it may affect me less but I don't think it's as bad as people say.

Hmmm…this is reassuring! I mostly skate baker decks, and I’m also a long lanky bastard, so it may be good for me, as well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on May 01, 2023, 04:41:23 AM
Wondering anyone can help me out here or has the same problem. I’m currently on cast 5.6 both trucks are on axle and have been for 6 months now, I’m blowing through the top front bushing every 2 or so weeks now. I’ve tried the low bushing kit with the stock washers,  sanded down bones hard and mediums with the small washer and without, but nothing seems to hold up anymore. The stock purple lasted me about a yr.

Apart from the trucks being on axle the look fine, axle isn’t bent and no cracking. Is it time to bite the bullet and just get new ones or is there a fix? Wanted to ride them until they’re completely toasted but I’m over blowing bushings every two weeks. I do skate a lot of curbs and get that slappys wouldn’t help but seems a bit much.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on May 01, 2023, 05:08:33 AM
Have you tried harder non-bones bushings up top and running your trucks a little looser? I’ve always had bad luck with the cores separating and blowing out with bones bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on May 01, 2023, 05:58:25 AM
Wondering anyone can help me out here or has the same problem. I’m currently on cast 5.6 both trucks are on axle and have been for 6 months now, I’m blowing through the top front bushing every 2 or so weeks now. I’ve tried the low bushing kit with the stock washers,  sanded down bones hard and mediums with the small washer and without, but nothing seems to hold up anymore. The stock purple lasted me about a yr.

Apart from the trucks being on axle the look fine, axle isn’t bent and no cracking. Is it time to bite the bullet and just get new ones or is there a fix? Wanted to ride them until they’re completely toasted but I’m over blowing bushings every two weeks. I do skate a lot of curbs and get that slappys wouldn’t help but seems a bit much.

Have you replaced the washer?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on May 01, 2023, 06:39:41 AM
Have you tried harder non-bones bushings up top and running your trucks a little looser? I’ve always had bad luck with the cores separating and blowing out with bones bushings.

Nah I haven’t as not sure what to use tbh. I’ve only tried bones hard & medium and the low bushing kit from venture
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on May 01, 2023, 06:42:25 AM
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Wondering anyone can help me out here or has the same problem. I’m currently on cast 5.6 both trucks are on axle and have been for 6 months now, I’m blowing through the top front bushing every 2 or so weeks now. I’ve tried the low bushing kit with the stock washers,  sanded down bones hard and mediums with the small washer and without, but nothing seems to hold up anymore. The stock purple lasted me about a yr.

Apart from the trucks being on axle the look fine, axle isn’t bent and no cracking. Is it time to bite the bullet and just get new ones or is there a fix? Wanted to ride them until they’re completely toasted but I’m over blowing bushings every two weeks. I do skate a lot of curbs and get that slappys wouldn’t help but seems a bit much.
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Have you replaced the washer?

When I ran bones I was using the stock bottom bushing and kept the stock washer but used the small one that comes with bones for the top. When I ran the low bushing kit I used stock washers. Just blew out the front bushing today so chucked a bones med in with no washer as it’s all I had on hand to keep the session going.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on May 01, 2023, 08:27:40 AM
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Have you tried harder non-bones bushings up top and running your trucks a little looser? I’ve always had bad luck with the cores separating and blowing out with bones bushings.
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Nah I haven’t as not sure what to use tbh. I’ve only tried bones hard & medium and the low bushing kit from venture

I’ve been using indy 94 or 96 (I can’t remember which) as a top bushing for a bit because the 90 top bushings kept disintegrating. I have convinced myself that harder bushing on top means looser kingpin nut, which means the bushing is less likely to get pinched apart by the washer. I have no evidence to support my theory, but so far it seems to be holding up. I’ve also convinced myself that hard top bushing = less wheel bite, although chief engineer BALARGUE has suggested it probably just enhances rebound, which is still something I like.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on May 01, 2023, 10:02:34 AM
Your theory makes sense. By tightening the nut you are preloading the bushing so it is under more "resting" compression and compresses to higher forces. Bushings have shelf lives like anything else and this plus pinching the top washer with the hanger will wear out a top bushing faster.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on May 01, 2023, 10:28:44 AM
Wondering anyone can help me out here or has the same problem. I’m currently on cast 5.6 both trucks are on axle and have been for 6 months now, I’m blowing through the top front bushing every 2 or so weeks now. I’ve tried the low bushing kit with the stock washers,  sanded down bones hard and mediums with the small washer and without, but nothing seems to hold up anymore. The stock purple lasted me about a yr.

Apart from the trucks being on axle the look fine, axle isn’t bent and no cracking. Is it time to bite the bullet and just get new ones or is there a fix? Wanted to ride them until they’re completely toasted but I’m over blowing bushings every two weeks. I do skate a lot of curbs and get that slappys wouldn’t help but seems a bit much.

I use the smaller washers that come with Indy aftermarket bushings on all my trucks.

Stock washers are a little bigger on Indy and Venture and seem to bite into top bushings more.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Made In China on May 01, 2023, 02:37:02 PM
Well, I ended up getting the loose conversion kit way quicker than I was anticipating. On my session yesterday my set up kept making a rattling noise and after awhile, I figured out it was because my back truck nut had started to unscrew and I could screw it either way with just my hands. This meant my truck was millimeters away from falling apart on me. I screwed it down a couple of times but it kept going back. Since I also ride my board as a form of transportation, I really don't want to fuck around and risk my shit falling apart on me, so I immediately got the loose bushings. Going to set it up this week and see how it feels.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on May 01, 2023, 08:49:25 PM
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Nah I haven’t as not sure what to use tbh. I’ve only tried bones hard & medium and the low bushing kit from venture
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I’ve been using indy 94 or 96 (I can’t remember which) as a top bushing for a bit because the 90 top bushings kept disintegrating. I have convinced myself that harder bushing on top means looser kingpin nut, which means the bushing is less likely to get pinched apart by the washer. I have no evidence to support my theory, but so far it seems to be holding up. I’ve also convinced myself that hard top bushing = less wheel bite, although chief engineer BALARGUE has suggested it probably just enhances rebound, which is still something I like.

Yeah sweet I’ll grab some 94 Indy bushings then and see how they go then try the 96 if they flog out. Cheers man
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on May 02, 2023, 04:02:22 AM
No worries, I hope it works!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on May 02, 2023, 05:03:49 AM
Oh snap! Now this is an option. Alternatively, I suppose if I can’t find either of those, I could get lights or hollows and toss the light or hollow hangers onto my current cast baseplates, but I was hoping to avoid making Frankentrucks.

fwiw, I roll with 5.8 hollow hangers on 20 year old cast baseplates on the 8.5 Ishod TT (14.5" wheelbase) and love everything about it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on May 02, 2023, 08:35:59 AM
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Oh snap! Now this is an option. Alternatively, I suppose if I can’t find either of those, I could get lights or hollows and toss the light or hollow hangers onto my current cast baseplates, but I was hoping to avoid making Frankentrucks.
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fwiw, I roll with 5.8 hollow hangers on 20 year old cast baseplates on the 8.5 Ishod TT (14.5" wheelbase) and love everything about it.

This is excellent news. Although I usually skate baker decks, my last deck was a 8.5 symmetrical Ishod, and I plan to scoop another if the opportunity presents itself.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on May 02, 2023, 08:53:37 AM
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fwiw, I roll with 5.8 hollow hangers on 20 year old cast baseplates on the 8.5 Ishod TT (14.5" wheelbase) and love everything about it.

What type of stuff do you skate? I’m on venture holllow cast with 14.25 and I’m kinda wanting to go to 14.375 or 14.5 after running through these FA sale decks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on May 02, 2023, 09:48:05 AM
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Oh snap! Now this is an option. Alternatively, I suppose if I can’t find either of those, I could get lights or hollows and toss the light or hollow hangers onto my current cast baseplates, but I was hoping to avoid making Frankentrucks.
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fwiw, I roll with 5.8 hollow hangers on 20 year old cast baseplates on the 8.5 Ishod TT (14.5" wheelbase) and love everything about it.
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What type of stuff do you skate? I’m on venture holllow cast with 14.25 and I’m kinda wanting to go to 14.375 or 14.5 after running through these FA sale decks

Pretty exclusively street and "street-style" (ugh) park, though I'm no tech wizard by any stretch of the imagination. At 6'2" I'm pretty tall for a skater though, and I found the long wheelbase helps me be more consistent. I'm fine with putting a little more effort into my scooping tricks because the outcome is more predictable than on a more responsive setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on May 02, 2023, 10:17:53 AM
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Oh snap! Now this is an option. Alternatively, I suppose if I can’t find either of those, I could get lights or hollows and toss the light or hollow hangers onto my current cast baseplates, but I was hoping to avoid making Frankentrucks.
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fwiw, I roll with 5.8 hollow hangers on 20 year old cast baseplates on the 8.5 Ishod TT (14.5" wheelbase) and love everything about it.
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What type of stuff do you skate? I’m on venture holllow cast with 14.25 and I’m kinda wanting to go to 14.375 or 14.5 after running through these FA sale decks
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Pretty exclusively street and "street-style" (ugh) park, though I'm no tech wizard by any stretch of the imagination. At 6'2" I'm pretty tall for a skater though, and I found the long wheelbase helps me be more consistent. I'm fine with putting a little more effort into my scooping tricks because the outcome is more predictable than on a more responsive setup.

I’m 6’ or 6’1 on a good day. Sounds like we skate the same stuff. If you skated only curbs or transition I prob would think it wouldn’t work but I’m gonna try it. After switching to venture I feel kickflips are less barrel rolls.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on May 06, 2023, 05:46:44 PM
First day on 5.2’s on an 8.125…..Ive done a pressure flip since the 90’s if that says anything about the performance of the truck…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 06, 2023, 05:57:26 PM
First day on 5.2’s on an 8.125…..Ive done a pressure flip since the 90’s if that says anything about the performance of the truck…..

So how you like em?
Pressure flip can be nice, I always liked a fakie one…

My 5.2 HI’s are on an 8.125 that’s not my fave (bbs), but I’m pleased with the truck. Feels pretty tall (I most frequently skate lo’s or 147s).

I want that Nile Gibbs truck

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tom Pearl on May 06, 2023, 06:04:13 PM
Wondering anyone can help me out here or has the same problem. I’m currently on cast 5.6 both trucks are on axle and have been for 6 months now, I’m blowing through the top front bushing every 2 or so weeks now. I’ve tried the low bushing kit with the stock washers,  sanded down bones hard and mediums with the small washer and without, but nothing seems to hold up anymore. The stock purple lasted me about a yr.

Apart from the trucks being on axle the look fine, axle isn’t bent and no cracking. Is it time to bite the bullet and just get new ones or is there a fix? Wanted to ride them until they’re completely toasted but I’m over blowing bushings every two weeks. I do skate a lot of curbs and get that slappys wouldn’t help but seems a bit much.


i run doh doh's in mine and they've been going strong for well over a year, they're still in perfect condition, i put a bones flat washer under the normal washer so i dont have to crank the nut down. nut is flush with the kingpin
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on May 07, 2023, 07:11:07 AM
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First day on 5.2’s on an 8.125…..Ive done a pressure flip since the 90’s if that says anything about the performance of the truck…..
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So how you like em?
Pressure flip can be nice, I always liked a fakie one…

My 5.2 HI’s are on an 8.125 that’s not my fave (bbs), but I’m pleased with the truck. Feels pretty tall (I most frequently skate lo’s or 147s).

I want that Nile Gibbs truck

yeah, they feel pretty tippy but I don't mind it.  That was the intent was to satisfy me realizing still flipping my board is important to me.  The turn is taking awhile to get back used to but that'll come, I still need to get the bushings dialled.  Wheelbase wise, I've somewhat come to terms it's a matter of principle and looks, it doesn't affect me that much, I'll ultimately be on slightly smaller boards so that'll be ok.  I'm coming off 144 Mindy's on an 8.25 which felt like a tank to me. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pasta Monster on May 07, 2023, 11:28:59 AM
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First day on 5.2’s on an 8.125…..Ive done a pressure flip since the 90’s if that says anything about the performance of the truck…..
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So how you like em?
Pressure flip can be nice, I always liked a fakie one…

My 5.2 HI’s are on an 8.125 that’s not my fave (bbs), but I’m pleased with the truck. Feels pretty tall (I most frequently skate lo’s or 147s).

I want that Nile Gibbs truck
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0619/0868/0862/files/VentureTruck0523Nile_1200x.jpg?v=1683219957)
Last night, I convinced myself not to, but gave in this morning before finishing my coffee. The graphic is good and I need 5.2 Hi. I’m running 5.6 V-Lights on a 8” FA deck and it just feels gross.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on May 07, 2023, 12:08:43 PM
cream and brown is so classy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 07, 2023, 12:54:22 PM
Shop nearest to me only has 5.6s….doesn’t matter much, I’ll be most likely just looking at them.

Cream and brown is classy. Makes sense.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: downtodevin on May 07, 2023, 01:24:52 PM
I got my Loose bushings and have had a couple of sessions on them, they are perfect! They turn so much better than the stock purple ones. Makes me love my V-Lights so much more
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 07, 2023, 05:21:13 PM
I got my Loose bushings and have had a couple of sessions on them, they are perfect! They turn so much better than the stock purple ones. Makes me love my V-Lights so much more


Yeah nice!

They sure do change things up, so it is amazing what a difference a couple of mm in height can do in that top bushing.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lucky Loki on May 12, 2023, 04:33:28 PM
I can't seem to get 5.8 standard Ventures flush with the nose and tail end of my deck, because the baseplate goes so far forward. Is this normal? I ended up countersinking the screws trying to get it to pull in.

The deck is a Canadian shop deck, I've run Indies on before.

I had the ventures on a Grimple board before, which was fine too.

(https://i.imgur.io/S9REKm1_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 12, 2023, 05:05:39 PM
I can't seem to get 5.8 standard Ventures flush with the nose and tail end of my deck, because the baseplate goes so far forward. Is this normal? I ended up countersinking the screws trying to get it to pull in.

The deck is a Canadian shop deck, I've run Indies on before.

I had the ventures on a Grimple board before, which was fine too.

(https://i.imgur.io/S9REKm1_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
(https://i.imgur.io/HvQNk19_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)



This sort of thing has nothing to do with the trucks and everything to do with the deck, mainly the press / mold used for the deck which would have a set length between the kicks and then where it was drilled to make the wheelbase, which in this case is a little longer than what might ordinarily be seen, which then makes the trucks sit out further, in this case right into the curve of the kick.

With the normal amount of flat from the deck bolt holes to the start of the kick, you wouldn't usually see this much rise of board and although it makes no difference to the use of the skateboard as a complete, you might find that the kicks feel heavier with the trucks closer to the kicks than on a board with trucks further in, with a shorter wheelbase.

Looking at quite a few different boards from different woodshops, some will sit exactly the same as that, while others will sit in a lot more.  As long as the deck bolt holes are secure and the baseplate is not bending over the curve of the kicks, it should be fine and not cause any issues.


What is the size of the board, wheelbase, etc?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lucky Loki on May 12, 2023, 05:11:26 PM
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I can't seem to get 5.8 standard Ventures flush with the nose and tail end of my deck, because the baseplate goes so far forward. Is this normal? I ended up countersinking the screws trying to get it to pull in.

The deck is a Canadian shop deck, I've run Indies on before.

I had the ventures on a Grimple board before, which was fine too.

(https://i.imgur.io/S9REKm1_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)
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This sort of thing has nothing to do with the trucks and everything to do with the deck, mainly the press / mold used for the deck which would have a set length between the kicks and then where it was drilled to make the wheelbase, which in this case is a little longer than what might ordinarily be seen, which then makes the trucks sit out further, in this case right into the curve of the kick.

With the normal amount of flat from the deck bolt holes to the start of the kick, you wouldn't usually see this much rise of board and although it makes no difference to the use of the skateboard as a complete, you might find that the kicks feel heavier with the trucks closer to the kicks than on a board with trucks further in, with a shorter wheelbase.

Looking at quite a few different boards from different woodshops, some will sit exactly the same as that, while others will sit in a lot more.  As long as the deck bolt holes are secure and the baseplate is not bending over the curve of the kicks, it should be fine and not cause any issues.


What is the size of the board, wheelbase, etc?

It's an 8.5 / 14.25 wb. Good to know it won't cause any problems.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on May 12, 2023, 05:17:31 PM
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I can't seem to get 5.8 standard Ventures flush with the nose and tail end of my deck, because the baseplate goes so far forward. Is this normal? I ended up countersinking the screws trying to get it to pull in.

The deck is a Canadian shop deck, I've run Indies on before.

I had the ventures on a Grimple board before, which was fine too.


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This sort of thing has nothing to do with the trucks and everything to do with the deck, mainly the press / mold used for the deck which would have a set length between the kicks and then where it was drilled to make the wheelbase, which in this case is a little longer than what might ordinarily be seen, which then makes the trucks sit out further, in this case right into the curve of the kick.

With the normal amount of flat from the deck bolt holes to the start of the kick, you wouldn't usually see this much rise of board and although it makes no difference to the use of the skateboard as a complete, you might find that the kicks feel heavier with the trucks closer to the kicks than on a board with trucks further in, with a shorter wheelbase.

Looking at quite a few different boards from different woodshops, some will sit exactly the same as that, while others will sit in a lot more.  As long as the deck bolt holes are secure and the baseplate is not bending over the curve of the kicks, it should be fine and not cause any issues.


What is the size of the board, wheelbase, etc?
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It's an 8.5 / 14.25 wb. Good to know it won't cause any problems.


If you still had any other old boards (or new) you could sit over the top of it, especially that Grimplestix board, if it was also the 8.5 x 31.85 with 14.25 wb, it might sit longer through the middle than the board you currently have setup now.

Not a worry either way, but I would think that they would feel quite different between that current one and the old one.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 12, 2023, 07:34:25 PM
I have overhang on my plates a lot. Pretty sure it goes away. Always a non issue so I only notice on set up if a board did that.

That buffalo truck is sick af.

I just found my Thunder 8.5s with the small usa stamp under the plates. Ive only grinded them like 10 times. They the black on black big grenade graphic. I might see if i can get them rattling and jingling then pass them to a local after a few days in crook city.

This is a nollie crooks summer. Id kill for a smaller ledge. Something like double curb height. Everything around here is bench height and is why i stick to regular crooks. I should build a box like Henry has. Round coping is the best. its like having a flat bar and a manny pad in one. I feel like if I had one id be able to secure all my skate goals and some by fall.

I hate crooking the curb in all stances. It feels like I'm doing a drop down manny. I eat shit on slappy crooks so badly im def popping my tail. That tricks for bank to curbs and mini ramps.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on May 13, 2023, 04:52:37 AM
The last set of indys I skated overhanged on some decks, too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lucky Loki on May 13, 2023, 05:53:18 AM
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I can't seem to get 5.8 standard Ventures flush with the nose and tail end of my deck, because the baseplate goes so far forward. Is this normal? I ended up countersinking the screws trying to get it to pull in.

The deck is a Canadian shop deck, I've run Indies on before.

I had the ventures on a Grimple board before, which was fine too.


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This sort of thing has nothing to do with the trucks and everything to do with the deck, mainly the press / mold used for the deck which would have a set length between the kicks and then where it was drilled to make the wheelbase, which in this case is a little longer than what might ordinarily be seen, which then makes the trucks sit out further, in this case right into the curve of the kick.

With the normal amount of flat from the deck bolt holes to the start of the kick, you wouldn't usually see this much rise of board and although it makes no difference to the use of the skateboard as a complete, you might find that the kicks feel heavier with the trucks closer to the kicks than on a board with trucks further in, with a shorter wheelbase.

Looking at quite a few different boards from different woodshops, some will sit exactly the same as that, while others will sit in a lot more.  As long as the deck bolt holes are secure and the baseplate is not bending over the curve of the kicks, it should be fine and not cause any issues.


What is the size of the board, wheelbase, etc?
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It's an 8.5 / 14.25 wb. Good to know it won't cause any problems.
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If you still had any other old boards (or new) you could sit over the top of it, especially that Grimplestix board, if it was also the 8.5 x 31.85 with 14.25 wb, it might sit longer through the middle than the board you currently have setup now.

Not a worry either way, but I would think that they would feel quite different between that current one and the old one.

Yeah, the Grimple was different - 8.38 * 13.75 / 14 WB. It was fun, and worked well with the ventures, but felt too short sometimes.

I fell in love with my last shop deck, which is good for the wallet.

I'll give it a go with the Ventures. Just good to know it won't hang up or pry apart.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on May 13, 2023, 12:58:45 PM
Does anyone know if the late 90’s era feather lights are closer to today’s venture lows or the highs in terms of height?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 13, 2023, 04:03:04 PM
Does anyone know if the late 90’s era feather lights are closer to today’s venture lows or the highs in terms of height?

As far as I know, they made both hi’s, and lo’s, during that time, but the lo’s were ubiquitous, where as the hi’s were maybe being used by some real ones from the north.
But I don’t know
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on May 15, 2023, 02:36:58 AM
should have done this eirler, even 5050s feel smoother, no more kingpin drag
https://i.imgur.com/KtieE6a.jpg
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on May 15, 2023, 05:45:11 AM
should have done this eirler, even 5050s feel smoother
https://i.imgur.com/KtieE6a.jpg

Flat washer on top?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on May 16, 2023, 11:07:58 PM
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should have done this eirler, even 5050s feel smoother
https://i.imgur.com/KtieE6a.jpg
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Flat washer on top?

yup, deeper turn, longer bushing life. stock washer tend to chew out top bushing and clipped the inner side of truck when maxing out the turning.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on May 17, 2023, 06:32:42 AM
I think conical bushings make a difference too in how they turn too…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on May 17, 2023, 10:39:40 AM
hope more v-casts come out
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pasta Monster on May 17, 2023, 11:43:04 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/Gv9JxWM/image.jpg)
I’m about to try these out. 5.6 on 8” has been weird, so I’m glad I managed to get these in 5.2 Hi.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on May 17, 2023, 12:03:13 PM
They look beautiful….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on May 17, 2023, 12:18:13 PM
Not really a fan of colored trucks, but those are pretty nice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 17, 2023, 04:34:14 PM
They look beautiful….


I think I’m just going to keep them on the desk, provided I get some
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 17, 2023, 06:52:47 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/Gv9JxWM/image.jpg)
I’m about to try these out. 5.6 on 8” has been weird, so I’m glad I managed to get these in 5.2 Hi.

With those Radial Slims, beautiful. Wish they still did them in 99a.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: venture5.8 on May 17, 2023, 07:11:18 PM
hope more v-casts come out

yeah are there anymore coming? I am surprised they have only put out the kader and ted barrow ones and they kinda stopped. I saw the violet/ venture ad in the new thrasher so maybe a colab truck could be a v-cast
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: VCR on May 17, 2023, 07:19:21 PM
Might have to get the Ted’s before the drought
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 17, 2023, 07:28:06 PM
There should be more coming out later this year
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SupremePizza on May 24, 2023, 11:42:26 AM
Currently riding 5.6 casts with 8.25 FA and 56mm classics.  On good days I'm having the best sessions but on other days the steepness can make things feel off. I love the turn+stability of venture with the classics and don't want to change that. Which decks would you suggest for this combination besides Crail, Primitive and April?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on May 24, 2023, 12:42:43 PM
Currently riding 5.6 casts with 8.25 FA and 56mm classics.  On good days I'm having the best sessions but on other days the steepness can make things feel off. I love the turn+stability of venture with the classics and don't want to change that. Which decks would you suggest for this combination besides Crail, Primitive and April?

anything with more mellow kicks.

8.3 deluxe twin tail was a favorite of mine for a while, i think they make some 8.25 twins too.

I've never had anything from deluxe with steep kicks, but ive only skated a handful of their shapes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on May 24, 2023, 03:01:16 PM
Thunder and Venture made in Mexico now.

I know it's been talked about before, but I haven't seen a Made In Mexico sticker on them until now.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/851356262029590541/1111050455594840095/PXL_20230524_210531948.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/851356262029590541/1111050456010080397/PXL_20230524_210537451.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on May 24, 2023, 05:18:29 PM
Thunder and Venture made in Mexico now.

I know it's been talked about before, but I haven't seen a Made In Mexico sticker on them until now.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/851356262029590541/1111050455594840095/PXL_20230524_210531948.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/851356262029590541/1111050456010080397/PXL_20230524_210537451.jpg)

forgot that venture baseplate was brown and had a minor meltdown
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on May 24, 2023, 08:55:31 PM
Currently riding 5.6 casts with 8.25 FA and 56mm classics.  On good days I'm having the best sessions but on other days the steepness can make things feel off. I love the turn+stability of venture with the classics and don't want to change that. Which decks would you suggest for this combination besides Crail, Primitive and April?

I really like 5.6 Ventures on the 8.25 workshop decks.  The long nose and longer tail pair well with them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on May 24, 2023, 09:35:20 PM
Currently riding 5.6 casts with 8.25 FA and 56mm classics.  On good days I'm having the best sessions but on other days the steepness can make things feel off. I love the turn+stability of venture with the classics and don't want to change that. Which decks would you suggest for this combination besides Crail, Primitive and April?

If I’m remembering right, DLX 8.28s are very very close in size to a FA 8.25. They feel smaller maybe cus the kicks aren’t as steep and the nose isn’t as full, but that might be a fun one.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 24, 2023, 11:22:39 PM
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Currently riding 5.6 casts with 8.25 FA and 56mm classics.  On good days I'm having the best sessions but on other days the steepness can make things feel off. I love the turn+stability of venture with the classics and don't want to change that. Which decks would you suggest for this combination besides Crail, Primitive and April?
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I really like 5.6 Ventures on the 8.25 workshop decks.  The long nose and longer tail pair well with them.

Same, but the kicks can be pretty steep, so I'd go with a smaller wheel.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on May 26, 2023, 08:47:22 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/HTfZdB6.jpg)
Is this normal? It sort of ovaled on one side and started breaking a fancy new pivot cup after like 20 minutes. I’m not sure I’ve ever had this happen. Fucking crooked grinds lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on May 26, 2023, 10:07:42 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/HTfZdB6.jpg)
Is this normal? It sort of ovaled on one side and started breaking a fancy new pivot cup after like 20 minutes. I’m not sure I’ve ever had this happen. Fucking crooked grinds lol.
i wouldn't be too worried unless it's affecting your turning. you could always rotate the pivot cup or replace it tho
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on May 26, 2023, 10:11:19 AM
It makes it easier to turn on the side it’s on compared to the other. But I’m going to give it a few more sessions because it’s probably just in my head. And I just bought these pivot cups yesterday :'(
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on May 26, 2023, 10:31:06 AM
It makes it easier to turn on the side it’s on compared to the other. But I’m going to give it a few more sessions because it’s probably just in my head. And I just bought these pivot cups yesterday :'(

You could try to contact deluxe about it. They seem to be very good at replacing defects and stuff. I honestly don't think your pivot cavity is supposed to oval out like that, pretty sure that could be warrantied.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on May 26, 2023, 10:39:01 AM
Oh word? I may try that. The worst they can say is no. Here’s another photo
(https://i.imgur.com/Hv2MEI2.jpg)
I’m just bummed that I bought fancy riptide pivot cups, didn’t notice the oval, and managed to fuck one up already.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roisto on May 26, 2023, 11:55:46 AM
Oh word? I may try that. The worst they can say is no. Here’s another photo
(https://i.imgur.com/Hv2MEI2.jpg)
I’m just bummed that I bought fancy riptide pivot cups, didn’t notice the oval, and managed to fuck one up already.

That is completely fucked. Makes the problems people were having with Ace AF1 pivot cups seem microscopic. Were you running them on pivot cup bushings that were completely obliterated before or how the fuck did that happen?  :o
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on May 26, 2023, 12:05:16 PM
They weren’t obliterated, but two days ago I noticed that the pivot cup bushing was cracked near the top, and I replaced it with a fancy fresh new  one yesterday. So I don’t think I’ve treated them too poorly.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 26, 2023, 12:08:54 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/Gv9JxWM/image.jpg)
I’m about to try these out. 5.6 on 8” has been weird, so I’m glad I managed to get these in 5.2 Hi.

That's one of the most beautiful trucks ever made.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DeepSpace9mm on May 26, 2023, 01:42:09 PM
6.1’s are sick.

I had a fun first session on them this morning.

When I first set them up I thought I might need harder bushings but these purples ones feel pretty good.

I hadn’t really given Ventures an honest go until today and I’m glad I did.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 26, 2023, 02:41:42 PM
Just set up some 5.6s and i kept the purps on.

I fell off rolling down the street almost got hit by a mail truck.

New bushings suck. I might just switch over to thunder again for a little fun now that ventures have moved production.

Thunders and ventures are now basically equal in coolness again  :-\

Ventures are still the best tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on May 26, 2023, 04:20:55 PM
Just set up some 5.6s and i kept the purps on.

I fell off rolling down the street almost got hit by a mail truck.

New bushings suck. I might just switch over to thunder again for a little fun now that ventures have moved production.

Thunders and ventures are now basically equal in coolness again  :-\

Ventures are still the best tho.

I hate those fucking purps
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 26, 2023, 08:06:07 PM
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Just set up some 5.6s and i kept the purps on.

I fell off rolling down the street almost got hit by a mail truck.

New bushings suck. I might just switch over to thunder again for a little fun now that ventures have moved production.

Thunders and ventures are now basically equal in coolness again  :-\

Ventures are still the best tho.
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I hate those fucking purps

I switched back to my normal board and got smoked going down to a show.

It was hella stupid too. I was like look at that slab of sidewalk sticking up 3". I better not go over that. I just kept going and now my pinky is fucked up. Lol

I'm such a bitch ass mark when it comes to hand stuff.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on May 27, 2023, 08:04:20 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/Gv9JxWM/image.jpg)
I’m about to try these out. 5.6 on 8” has been weird, so I’m glad I managed to get these in 5.2 Hi.

luv them green bushings. reminds me of the featherlight..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 27, 2023, 08:11:26 AM
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(https://i.ibb.co/Gv9JxWM/image.jpg)
I’m about to try these out. 5.6 on 8” has been weird, so I’m glad I managed to get these in 5.2 Hi.
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luv them green bushings. reminds me of the featherlight..

greens are the best color, because of the featherlight memories, purple looks the best, but i spent the longest on the maroons. so any of those are cool. basically just like ventures and how they look
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Slugboi22 on May 27, 2023, 11:02:04 AM
I’m thinking about picking up some ventures off of a memorial day sale. Currently riding thunder team 149s and am looking for a truck comparable in height. I’m assuming regular cast is my best bet? I’m between 5.6 and 5.8s as i ride 8.38…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on May 27, 2023, 11:14:57 AM
I’m thinking about picking up some ventures off of a memorial day sale. Currently riding thunder team 149s and am looking for a truck comparable in height. I’m assuming regular cast is my best bet? I’m between 5.6 and 5.8s as i ride 8.38…

I have some 5.8 highs on an 8.5 and I can see a tiny bit of axle. I’d probably go 5.6 in your case. I can’t really speak to height/geometry beyond that though. And I’ll tell you now, either pop your old Thunder bushings in there or order something you like. Stock venture purples are their biggest con imo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on May 27, 2023, 11:15:33 AM
I’m thinking about picking up some ventures off of a memorial day sale. Currently riding thunder team 149s and am looking for a truck comparable in height. I’m assuming regular cast is my best bet? I’m between 5.6 and 5.8s as i ride 8.38…

I had been skating 5.8s, but put on 5.6 hangers since I am not skating 8.3 any longer. The 5.8s definitely turn more/better(?) than the 5.6. Leverage I assume.

I also am trying to ease into 5.2 lows on 8". Had a great session on them today. Flip trick timing is still off, but really enjoying them otherwise.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: brownjenkin on May 27, 2023, 11:15:58 AM
I’m thinking about picking up some ventures off of a memorial day sale. Currently riding thunder team 149s and am looking for a truck comparable in height. I’m assuming regular cast is my best bet? I’m between 5.6 and 5.8s as i ride 8.38…

If you're concerned strictly with the height, I think the forged plates would get you the closest to the 52mm height of your current 149s. The cast plates are 53mm so still not a huge difference. 

If getting a more comparable wheelbase is also a concern, the cast plates would be the better overall choice for height and WB combined. The forged plates are drilled farther down the baseplate so they'll extend your WB even more than the cast will.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Slugboi22 on May 27, 2023, 12:15:11 PM
Thanks all for the advice! I’m think 5.6 casts with flat top washers and my old thunder bushings will probably give me the truck i want these days. I’ve been skating DLX 8.38s with a 1 stamp but would like to maybe size down to 8.25 soon. :-)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on May 27, 2023, 01:33:14 PM
I think either will work fine….the forged set ups have a few more options, are often on sale, a bit lighter….you have the right idea though and I think you’ll like how they skate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on May 28, 2023, 03:25:33 AM
I’m thinking about picking up some ventures off of a memorial day sale. Currently riding thunder team 149s and am looking for a truck comparable in height. I’m assuming regular cast is my best bet? I’m between 5.6 and 5.8s as i ride 8.38…

5.8s on 8.38s are great, that’s my current set up. i will do 8.25 with 5.8s too. i used to magic carpet for the longest time, i was skating thunder 147s on 8.5 boards, much easier to wheelbite and it pitches you harder too. i’d get the wider trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 28, 2023, 07:28:36 AM
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I’m thinking about picking up some ventures off of a memorial day sale. Currently riding thunder team 149s and am looking for a truck comparable in height. I’m assuming regular cast is my best bet? I’m between 5.6 and 5.8s as i ride 8.38…
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5.8s on 8.38s are great, that’s my current set up. i will do 8.25 with 5.8s too. i used to magic carpet for the longest time, i was skating thunder 147s on 8.5 boards, much easier to wheelbite and it pitches you harder too. i’d get the wider trucks.

5.8 with 8.38s is the fucking truth
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on May 28, 2023, 08:48:09 AM
I can't explain it but my 5.6 ventures feel like 8" trucks to me. They're only 1mm narrower than my thunder 148s though, so it's not the actual measurements. (143 and 144mm)
Same feeling with the 8.25 ace Af1, but those actually are narrower for some reason. (like 141mm)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 28, 2023, 11:36:57 AM
I can't explain it but my 5.6 ventures feel like 8" trucks to me. They're only 1mm narrower than my thunder 148s though, so it's not the actual measurements. (143 and 144mm)
Same feeling with the 8.25 ace Af1, but those actually are narrower for some reason. (like 141mm)

huh, makes me kinda want them. i won’t.
i’m a moron that needs to (constantly) remind myself to just stick with 8” trucks.
i’ll have fun, and really enjoy some setups with bigger trucks, but everything has to be juuuuuuuuuust so. or else it doesn’t work. and that somehow also means that initially the bigger truck setup might be fantastic, and by the next day it is not at all rad. i’m so wack.

now if they ever made 5.6 lo’s i’d buy.

i got the gibbs truck, looks so nice
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on May 31, 2023, 06:05:41 AM
First session in on my 5.6 standard. I’m starting with stock everything including washers. No gouge on the hanger from the stock washer so far. Plenty of turn even after the bushings have stiffened up a bit. Pop timing is perfect for me. Coming from Thunder lights ( forged plates) where I felt too low, (like I was driving my pop directly into the ground rather than rebounding off of the pavement) the Venture height is just that happy medium between a Thunder and Indy. Also I really like the “harder” grind. It’s loud which is fun but it also reminds me of the feeling of grinding on the axle of other trucks.
These are just first impressions but I’m happy with them so far.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tre on June 02, 2023, 09:04:49 PM
Anybody have any idea when a  v cast hollow  polished  truck will drop? I want to try them but not a fan of graphic trucks..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 03, 2023, 08:02:28 AM
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I’m thinking about picking up some ventures off of a memorial day sale. Currently riding thunder team 149s and am looking for a truck comparable in height. I’m assuming regular cast is my best bet? I’m between 5.6 and 5.8s as i ride 8.38…
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I had been skating 5.8s, but put on 5.6 hangers since I am not skating 8.3 any longer. The 5.8s definitely turn more/better(?) than the 5.6. Leverage I assume.

I also am trying to ease into 5.2 lows on 8". Had a great session on them today. Flip trick timing is still off, but really enjoying them otherwise.

Isn't that weird.

It's a massive difference between the 5.6 and the 5.8

But the 5.6 down all feel the same.

It matters not but it is interesting.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on June 03, 2023, 08:22:03 AM
Anybody have any idea when a  v cast hollow  polished  truck will drop? I want to try them but not a fan of graphic trucks..

If you can find the Ted Barrow ones, a q-tip and some acetone/deglazer will take the Pooh Bear graphic off, very fast and easy on a polished hanger, like 30 sec–1 min max.

The Kader ones with the raw finish take more effort to remove the graphic, but it still worked.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on June 03, 2023, 03:57:13 PM
Not sure if anyone was interested in my ovaled pivots, but I’m fairly confident that recently I was doing way too many slappy crooked grinds on a metal ledge, and it wasn’t a fault with the baseplate. To test my idea, I tossed these old forged independent trucks on my bloard and spent a couple sessions blasting them into the ledge. Sure enough, they started ovaling on my heel side, too. The indy’s are older, but they seemed to start ovaling out faster than the ventures (or maybe it just seemed that way because I was looking for it). As seen here:

(https://i.imgur.com/bEHyMDa.jpg)

So I don’t think it’s a reflection on venture, and I figure I should just be more gentle and ollie into grinds that pinch from now on, or just accept the consequences of slappy life and give up on trucks that don’t wobble.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on June 03, 2023, 05:04:47 PM
How many spacers do I need on the inside of the wheel on 5.6 to feel like a 5.8? I have 5.8 in my main but gonna set up a second skate shitty spots and rough ledges board but want it similar to my main
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: big_kev_215 on June 03, 2023, 05:14:54 PM
Crossposting from the questions that don’t deserve their own thread thread (probably made more sense here):

Anyone use any other brands of replacement pivot cups in Venture baseplates?  I’m trying to figure out what would fit properly. 

I have Riptides in there now which have completely blown apart in like a month of skating.  Not trying to go down that road again.  I wish I kept the original Venture pivot cups from this set but they seem to have disappeared… I was looking at options and it seems like Indy and Ace sell replacement pivot cups but not many other brands.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on June 03, 2023, 05:22:27 PM
I’ve used indy pivot cups in ventures and they fit reasonably well. They weren’t perfectly flush, but they worked.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 03, 2023, 05:29:52 PM
Not sure if anyone was interested in my ovaled pivots, but I’m fairly confident that recently I was doing way too many slappy crooked grinds on a metal ledge, and it wasn’t a fault with the baseplate. To test my idea, I tossed these old forged independent trucks on my bloard and spent a couple sessions blasting them into the ledge. Sure enough, they started ovaling on my heel side, too. The indy’s are older, but they seemed to start ovaling out faster than the ventures (or maybe it just seemed that way because I was looking for it). As seen here:

(https://i.imgur.com/bEHyMDa.jpg)

So I don’t think it’s a reflection on venture, and I figure I should just be more gentle and ollie into grinds that pinch from now on, or just accept the consequences of slappy life and give up on trucks that don’t wobble.

I say fuck it. If it happens to all trucks are they actually broken?
Also smashing your trucks into things is way too fun to stop.

Id like to see if you can do it to all brands and how long it takes for each. That'd be kinda sick.

Maybe you should report your findings to the suits in China and try to get more products for further r and d.

Respect for the science on two trucks too. Shits a pretty sick result.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 03, 2023, 06:26:43 PM
Crossposting from the questions that don’t deserve their own thread thread (probably made more sense here):

Anyone use any other brands of replacement pivot cups in Venture baseplates?  I’m trying to figure out what would fit properly. 

I have Riptides in there now which have completely blown apart in like a month of skating.  Not trying to go down that road again.  I wish I kept the original Venture pivot cups from this set but they seem to have disappeared… I was looking at options and it seems like Indy and Ace sell replacement pivot cups but not many other brands.  Thanks!


I usually stock up on the DLX pivot cups, which might be marketed as Thunder pivot cups, but they come loose in whatever quantity you want, so could be more a generic type but they seem to work in any trucks I have needed to put them in, mainly Indy, Thunder and Venture.

They are just plain black, fit snugly and seem to hold well for as long as is needed, so I would imagine it is down to certain shops as to what they get in and how they sell them.

Some of the other brands that have the blister pack or the hang sell card with stapled bag end up being more than twice the cost for the same number of pivot cups, so when I find them, I get a few at a time, here in AU.


Not sure if Indy still have boxes of 20 or so, but they used to be good as well and seem like they are almost the same product, maybe generic pivot cups they all get and then box them up or bag them as needed.



Edit:

As per the other thread, best answer:



Deluxe makes replacement pivot cups. I got a set that worked perfectly in my Thunders but can't speak how well they would fit in Ventures. Doesn't look like the big online stores carry it (SkateWarehouse, Tactics, etc) but my local has them: https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/skateboarding/parts/bushings/deluxe/super-cush-pivot-cup-pid-13607


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on June 03, 2023, 07:14:01 PM
How many spacers do I need on the inside of the wheel on 5.6 to feel like a 5.8? I have 5.8 in my main but gonna set up a second skate shitty spots and rough ledges board but want it similar to my main
id just put as many on the inside as possible
someone posted how many mm a spacer is but i cant find it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PatrickSkateman on June 03, 2023, 08:27:03 PM
I’m guessing Ventures aren’t Ermico anymore. Bought a pair today and they were made in Mexico.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Nth syd bear on June 03, 2023, 09:05:25 PM
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How many spacers do I need on the inside of the wheel on 5.6 to feel like a 5.8? I have 5.8 in my main but gonna set up a second skate shitty spots and rough ledges board but want it similar to my main
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id just put as many on the inside as possible
someone posted how many mm a spacer is but i cant find it

I put three washers together and it was about 0.125' on my tape measure
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 03, 2023, 10:23:55 PM
I’ve used indy pivot cups in ventures and they fit reasonably well. They weren’t perfectly flush, but they worked.

Indy pivot cups or just buy a bag of 100 from AliExpress, been using the unbranded ones on a bunch of trucks and zero problems.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 03, 2023, 10:33:18 PM
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How many spacers do I need on the inside of the wheel on 5.6 to feel like a 5.8? I have 5.8 in my main but gonna set up a second skate shitty spots and rough ledges board but want it similar to my main
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id just put as many on the inside as possible
someone posted how many mm a spacer is but i cant find it


I have tried and even with five washers on the inside and nuts reversed / turned around on trucks that were 5.6 (144s), just to get a bit of nyloc to hold, it still doesn't quite add up to the extra width on 5.8 (149s) trucks.

It was interesting to see though and I could feel a little more difference, but I usually have three washers on the inside of everything anyway, that is three washers on the inside of each wheel, just the nut on the outside which sits fairly snugly on the end of the axle on any normal truck from Indy, Thunder or Venture.  Ace trucks can fit one or even two more on each as they have longer axles than normal, with the nut still fitting on as usual.


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Should have added:

In total it is about 5 mm, so 2.5 mm on each axle to make an 8.25" as wide as the 8.5" axle, so depending on the width of washers, about seven or eight to make the wheels even with my other 8.5" trucks, which then means the nut barely fits on, even when reversed, when I tried, just to see if it could be done.

Still easy enough to put a few extra on, then skate it and see how that feels, if it is at all different from where you had them before.

How many washers on the inside do you usually have?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on June 04, 2023, 05:09:57 AM
@Mbrimson88  on my 5.8s I use for my main I just have one on each side of the wheel.

Also thank you and the other pals for helping me. Watching my son and it was easier to throw a Hail Mary pass to the pals than to mess with it with trial and error while watching him.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 04, 2023, 05:07:39 PM
@Mbrimson88  on my 5.8s I use for my main I just have one on each side of the wheel.

Also thank you and the other pals for helping me. Watching my son and it was easier to throw a Hail Mary pass to the pals than to mess with it with trial and error while watching him.


Yeah for sure.

At least the 5.6 to 5.8 is the closest combination and maybe the least to feel a difference while still having roughly the same size board, etc.

Sure I know 5.2 to 5.6 could be the same, but I am more used to the 8.25 to 8.5 widths of everything now and a lot more people ride 5.6 on 8.3 to 8.5 boards, as well as my own setups with 5.8s as preference.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 05, 2023, 05:39:37 AM
This is dumb as shit but I just realized my Venture 5.8 “highs” are 53.5mm high … and my two “regular” Indy sets are 55mm. So I’ve been being weird about how I use my Ventures for uh, absolutely no reason.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on June 05, 2023, 09:39:55 AM
This is dumb as shit but I just realized my Venture 5.8 “highs” are 53.5mm high … and my two “regular” Indy sets are 55mm. So I’ve been being weird about how I use my Ventures for uh, absolutely no reason.

lol

gnar'd for your honesty
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oak leaf on June 05, 2023, 09:42:48 AM
ive been rocking 8.25-8.5 on 5.8 cast for a couple years now, but i find myself wanting more room for my feet. i watch my clips and the board looks tiny. sure its easier to flip an 8.25 but if my toes touch then whats the point…?

i am thinking about going up to 8.5-8.75 and getting some 6.1s.  The weight of my ACE 55 classics on my cruiser kinda bums me out, so im thinking hollows or something

lurking this thread it seems light 6.1s were around at some point. are they a regular offering?

anyone riding 6.1s and floating between 8.5-8.75?

i guess im asking because ive never had a problem finding boards/shapes i like in the 8.25-8.5 range, but looking around it seems like 8.75s jump to a 15 wb quickly.



thanks in advance for any help.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: IpathCats on June 05, 2023, 09:59:36 AM
ive been rocking 8.25-8.5 on 5.8 cast for a couple years now, but i find myself wanting more room for my feet. i watch my clips and the board looks tiny. sure its easier to flip an 8.25 but if my toes touch then whats the point…?

i am thinking about going up to 8.5-8.75 and getting some 6.1s.  The weight of my ACE 55 classics on my cruiser kinda bums me out, so im thinking hollows or something

lurking this thread it seems light 6.1s were around at some point. are they a regular offering?

anyone riding 6.1s and floating between 8.5-8.75?

i guess im asking because ive never had a problem finding boards/shapes i like in the 8.25-8.5 range, but looking around it seems like 8.75s jump to a 15 wb quickly.



thanks in advance for any help.

DLX has an 8.62 with a 14.75 WB thats always in their lineup. i've always wanted to try it but the width scares me.

IDK how well the ventures will work on a WB that long though.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 05, 2023, 10:09:05 AM
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This is dumb as shit but I just realized my Venture 5.8 “highs” are 53.5mm high … and my two “regular” Indy sets are 55mm. So I’ve been being weird about how I use my Ventures for uh, absolutely no reason.
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lol

gnar'd for your honesty
I’m pretty book smart but I’m so goddamn dumb irl
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on June 05, 2023, 10:22:09 AM
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This is dumb as shit but I just realized my Venture 5.8 “highs” are 53.5mm high … and my two “regular” Indy sets are 55mm. So I’ve been being weird about how I use my Ventures for uh, absolutely no reason.
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lol

gnar'd for your honesty
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I’m pretty book smart but I’m so goddamn dumb irl

lol yeah cause its just high in comparison to it's "Low" counterpart. Its close the same height as the Forged Baseplate Indys.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on June 05, 2023, 11:45:30 AM
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ive been rocking 8.25-8.5 on 5.8 cast for a couple years now, but i find myself wanting more room for my feet. i watch my clips and the board looks tiny. sure its easier to flip an 8.25 but if my toes touch then whats the point…?

i am thinking about going up to 8.5-8.75 and getting some 6.1s.  The weight of my ACE 55 classics on my cruiser kinda bums me out, so im thinking hollows or something

lurking this thread it seems light 6.1s were around at some point. are they a regular offering?

anyone riding 6.1s and floating between 8.5-8.75?

i guess im asking because ive never had a problem finding boards/shapes i like in the 8.25-8.5 range, but looking around it seems like 8.75s jump to a 15 wb quickly.



thanks in advance for any help.
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DLX has an 8.62 with a 14.75 WB thats always in their lineup. i've always wanted to try it but the width scares me.

IDK how well the ventures will work on a WB that long though.

You should try it. I think that board feels a lot more comfortable than the dims would indicate. Maybe it’s because of the length, makes it look slimmer?

To piggyback on this, I think the White Eagle shape (8.75/14.62) is also a good option for oak leaf up there. It’s basically a stubbier version of that Cream Eagle (the 8.62/14.75).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 05, 2023, 01:27:09 PM
I love having my ventures on a long wb now.

I'll just do more like straight flip tricks and live large off back 80s and non compliance.

Also the bowl will be kinder to you. I hate riding a 14" in bigger transmission. I frickin get the rear end breaking loose as I cut across the flat bottom going woah woah woah.

Triple wiggles. Not good. Guess my foot is to far over bolts....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 05, 2023, 01:32:02 PM
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This is dumb as shit but I just realized my Venture 5.8 “highs” are 53.5mm high … and my two “regular” Indy sets are 55mm. So I’ve been being weird about how I use my Ventures for uh, absolutely no reason.
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lol

gnar'd for your honesty
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I’m pretty book smart but I’m so goddamn dumb irl
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lol yeah cause its just high in comparison to it's "Low" counterpart. Its close the same height as the Forged Baseplate Indys.

Yup, I actually made a mistake earlier. I have a set of Hollows that sit at 55 and some hollow forged that are 54.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Willie on June 05, 2023, 04:10:33 PM
I thought Venture Highs were 55?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 05, 2023, 06:24:49 PM
I thought Venture Highs were 55?



Venture are a mid height truck at best, but the definition of high, low or mid is often lost between brands.


Indy standard are 55 mm in height.

Indy forged baseplates are the same as Venture cast at 53.5 mm in height, which you can also call Venture high.

Venture forged baseplates make the trucks sit at 52 mm in height

Then there are Venture low which are way lower than everything else, 48 mm in height.


I know I wouldn't trust everything I read online, but this has a really good chart of heights of all the trucks, which seems fairly accurate too:


https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/en/wiki/skateboarding/skateboard-wiki/trucks/


* That said, I am sure someone will find something that doesn't add up.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on June 05, 2023, 06:36:21 PM
ive been rocking 8.25-8.5 on 5.8 cast for a couple years now, but i find myself wanting more room for my feet. i watch my clips and the board looks tiny. sure its easier to flip an 8.25 but if my toes touch then whats the point…?

i am thinking about going up to 8.5-8.75 and getting some 6.1s.  The weight of my ACE 55 classics on my cruiser kinda bums me out, so im thinking hollows or something

lurking this thread it seems light 6.1s were around at some point. are they a regular offering?

anyone riding 6.1s and floating between 8.5-8.75?

i guess im asking because ive never had a problem finding boards/shapes i like in the 8.25-8.5 range, but looking around it seems like 8.75s jump to a 15 wb quickly.



thanks in advance for any help.
i did 8.75/6.1 until my recent size up to 9
always short wheelbases
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115328.900
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GT on June 05, 2023, 09:00:53 PM
Can anyone please tell me what are the differences in measurement of older featherweight ventures to current ventures?

I remember them being my favourite back in the day but back then I didn't think about measurement and shit it was all how the board felt.

I wish I could find some for sale....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JANUS on June 06, 2023, 04:18:25 PM
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Not sure if anyone was interested in my ovaled pivots, but I’m fairly confident that recently I was doing way too many slappy crooked grinds on a metal ledge, and it wasn’t a fault with the baseplate. To test my idea, I tossed these old forged independent trucks on my bloard and spent a couple sessions blasting them into the ledge. Sure enough, they started ovaling on my heel side, too. The indy’s are older, but they seemed to start ovaling out faster than the ventures (or maybe it just seemed that way because I was looking for it). As seen here:

(https://i.imgur.com/bEHyMDa.jpg)

So I don’t think it’s a reflection on venture, and I figure I should just be more gentle and ollie into grinds that pinch from now on, or just accept the consequences of slappy life and give up on trucks that don’t wobble.
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I say fuck it. If it happens to all trucks are they actually broken?
Also smashing your trucks into things is way too fun to stop.

Id like to see if you can do it to all brands and how long it takes for each. That'd be kinda sick.

Maybe you should report your findings to the suits in China and try to get more products for further r and d.

Respect for the science on two trucks too. Shits a pretty sick result.

Bahahaha, thanks yo, and honestly if I wasn’t a broke boi, buying a throng of trucks from different companies and documenting how they handle getting slappied is something I could see myself doing for fun.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on June 06, 2023, 06:38:30 PM
Can anyone please tell me what are the differences in measurement of older featherweight ventures to current ventures?

I remember them being my favourite back in the day but back then I didn't think about measurement and shit it was all how the board felt.

I wish I could find some for sale....
Pretty sure these are the featherlight hi”s
https://www.ebay.com/itm/314618863333?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=EslQ1m_cRUK&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Also, the Green bushing lows come up for sale on eBay a fair amount
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on June 06, 2023, 06:41:46 PM
8.25 featherlight lows
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275885320503?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=UnGRESOzS_i&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 06, 2023, 07:04:34 PM
8.25 featherlight lows
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275885320503?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=UnGRESOzS_i&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

These are sick yo.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on June 06, 2023, 07:09:25 PM
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8.25 featherlight lows
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275885320503?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=UnGRESOzS_i&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
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These are sick yo.
Agreed, mine back then were the 7.5 version and I had no idea they made the lows that wide.I might buy them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 06, 2023, 07:13:29 PM
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8.25 featherlight lows
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275885320503?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=UnGRESOzS_i&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
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These are sick yo.
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Agreed, mine back then were the 7.5 version and I had no idea they made the lows that wide.I might buy them

Same the pair at my brother's are tini.

I'd buy if I had bread.

I'm rolling pennies rn for a DiMarzio soap bar pick up.

I'm def going to need shoes ASAP too.  ::)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on June 06, 2023, 07:15:23 PM
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8.25 featherlight lows
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275885320503?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=UnGRESOzS_i&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
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These are sick yo.
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Agreed, mine back then were the 7.5 version and I had no idea they made the lows that wide.I might buy them
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Same the pair at my brother's are tini.

I'd buy if I had bread.

I'm rolling pennies rn for a DiMarzio soap bar pick up.

I'm def going to need shoes ASAP too.  ::)
What size foot are you if you are 11 I’ll send you a pair
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 06, 2023, 07:45:59 PM
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8.25 featherlight lows
https://www.ebay.com/itm/275885320503?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=UnGRESOzS_i&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
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These are sick yo.
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Agreed, mine back then were the 7.5 version and I had no idea they made the lows that wide.I might buy them
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Same the pair at my brother's are tini.

I'd buy if I had bread.

I'm rolling pennies rn for a DiMarzio soap bar pick up.

I'm def going to need shoes ASAP too.  ::)
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What size foot are you if you are 11 I’ll send you a pair

Thanks pal. I got lil ass feets size 9

Preciate the thought tho
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 06, 2023, 07:50:30 PM
Can anyone please tell me what are the differences in measurement of older featherweight ventures to current ventures?

I remember them being my favourite back in the day but back then I didn't think about measurement and shit it was all how the board felt.

I wish I could find some for sale....


I think I have one in a display cabinet so can check and get back, but from memory it was about the same as some of the other trucks from the time, around 52 mm in height.  Definitely a fair bit taller than the low set there, but not as tall as current versions of the normal Ventures at 53.5 mm.

Those ebay trucks are good to look at as well, with all the various angles to see them.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 06, 2023, 08:50:28 PM
I'm willing to bet the lows back in the day was lower than the modern equivalent.

My old thunders are definitely sub 48 I bet the feather lite low was the same height as the thunder.

I miss low trucks but they just wouldn't work for me today. My bloard is my main transportation. I gotta be as high as possible so I can run big ass wheels.

This ain't the 90s. Blacktop is fuckin fucked around here. I been on 50s just for fun for a few days. I eat shit all the time now. Probably gonna switch back soon.

The crack at the end of the curb needs Bondo. I wanna fakie Manny off the sidewalk

You can't see it but this is like curb sidewalk then curb again and fire lane. The street was paved recently too and it's slanted towards the curbs.
Observation the glory.

That crack tho. It's fucking making me e insane. When I try to avoid it there's a drain. I can't Tiago out of a fakie nanny these days.

I can't even get over the crack

I tried front nose fakie Manny like 1


(https://i.ibb.co/jkMDY8q/IMG-20230606-141059.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YBkhSNJ)
(https://i.ibb.co/5FhgMT7/IMG-20230606-141045.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Wtv4xnT)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GT on June 07, 2023, 01:28:55 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/8r5HLdF/20230607-182637.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8r5HLdF)

(https://i.ibb.co/BZrtQZQ/20230607-182642.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BZrtQZQ)

(https://i.ibb.co/bzs0NbS/20230607-182647.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bzs0NbS)

(https://i.ibb.co/tcPLmHJ/20230607-182652.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tcPLmHJ)




I have these old ones I got on ebay couple years ago.

These are not featherlights I think . They are like mid height.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 07, 2023, 07:33:05 AM
i remember seeing a neighborhood kid with a wild setup, and he claimed he had venture ‘lowriders’. i’m guessing this was somewhere between 91-93.
i ‘skated’ (grew up far from pavement, but had a variflex twister, then a hawk, and a few boards after that), but shamefully quit somewhere around 90, and started back around 411 vm 6.
i missed all of the rapid changes!! anyways i remember this kid claiming lowriders, his whole setup looked wild, he was dressed full goofy boy, and his dad was a cop. by 94 ventures lo’s were the way
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mick on June 09, 2023, 06:44:52 PM
Do 5.2 lows actually bite as bad as people say? Thinking of going from 148 Raws to some 5.2 Lows and skate 53mm Classics. Don't really bite too bad on thunders but I also wax my wells often. Also, 5.2 lows on 8.12/8.25 anybody?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on June 09, 2023, 07:40:23 PM
Do 5.2 lows actually bite as bad as people say? Thinking of going from 148 Raws to some 5.2 Lows and skate 53mm Classics. Don't really bite too bad on thunders but I also wax my wells often. Also, 5.2 lows on 8.12/8.25 anybody?
I skated 5.2 lows right after a set of thunder 147 and less wheel bite for sure. Also I was on 8.25s and it worked great!
I took the 5.2s off because the stock bushings were freezing up last winter but ill
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 09, 2023, 08:33:15 PM
They bite worse for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on June 16, 2023, 05:51:28 AM
After a few weeks on Venture standards I still have no binding on the hanger from the stock top washer which is great! Maybe I got lucky or maybe they’ve fixed the issue with is. Happy to have found a truck that I like without having to tinker with it at all. Looking forward to a few more slappy sessions to get some deeper grooves.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on June 16, 2023, 03:37:42 PM
I recently bought a white venture t and I’m saving for the green cord hat…….I’m pretty pleased with the results so far as well…….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 16, 2023, 05:28:01 PM
I recently bought a white venture t and I’m saving for the green cord hat…….I’m pretty pleased with the results so far as well…….


i fear commitment, but of all the logo’s, venture has the most pull, for me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 16, 2023, 06:16:53 PM
5 logo tees and 3 logo caps, I'm 100% Awakened
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 16, 2023, 09:10:00 PM
5 logo tees and 3 logo caps, I'm 100% Awakened


sig is life


i’m back on 5.2 lo’s 99% of the time
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 16, 2023, 10:44:04 PM
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I recently bought a white venture t and I’m saving for the green cord hat…….I’m pretty pleased with the results so far as well…….
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i fear commitment, but of all the logo’s, venture has the most pull, for me

I agree. I'm usually against soft goods. I'll rock just about anything with the red v on it tho.

That's the most street logo in the history of skating maybe. Low percentage of kook shit attached to venture.

Maybe just those play lists. No body wants to listen to that bullshit.

I hope the only thing that changes is that they introduce a mag a 5.6 low and a 6.7 or whatever with the money they are gonna save.

If there was a mag everyone on earth would want a pair.

Silicone impregnated mags. Lol. 6.9 and 5.6 lows
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 18, 2023, 12:33:03 PM
got the loose trucks kit green bushings and whoa. kinda insane. 5.2 hi’s are now  loooooooose. feels fun, looks wrong (i skate by myself, in a semi deserted parking lot, this isn’t a cry for help, it’s the best case scenario for someone of my age, and particular ‘skill set’), the loosey goosey truck thing is abhorrent. although back when i could ollie decently i’d try and ollie from the flat to the deck of some ramps, and thinking about it is so shameful. but i cannot go back, so now i just try and keep my sins a little more under wraps, there will be no ‘look at me and how loose my trucks are’ shenanigans.
had anyone used these on a successful bowl type setup? i’ll admit that my beloved 5.2 lo’s, and 52s are not perfect for transitions. even tho i’m super old i’ve not learned backside disasters. mostly because i hate ramps. because i am a coward.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 18, 2023, 06:24:38 PM
got the loose trucks kit green bushings and whoa. kinda insane. 5.2 hi’s are now  loooooooose. feels fun, looks wrong (i skate by myself, in a semi deserted parking lot, this isn’t a cry for help, it’s the best case scenario for someone of my age, and particular ‘skill set’), the loosey goosey truck thing is abhorrent. although back when i could ollie decently i’d try and ollie from the flat to the deck of some ramps, and thinking about it is so shameful. but i cannot go back, so now i just try and keep my sins a little more under wraps, there will be no ‘look at me and how loose my trucks are’ shenanigans.
had anyone used these on a successful bowl type setup? i’ll admit that my beloved 5.2 lo’s, and 52s are not perfect for transitions. even tho i’m super old i’ve not learned backside disasters. mostly because i hate ramps. because i am a coward.


I bought a few sets to pass around when they finally came out here in AU, but in particular the people that like them the most are kids who needed way softer / lower top bushings to get the turn that adults get from normal stock bushings, and others who needed more kingpin clearance with worn down trucks so the nut is down lower with trucks that were worn to the axle, so they are not actually that loose all up.

As for those who do ride super loose trucks, the couple of guys who tried them thought they were good, so compared to the Bones soft bushings, or the Indy white 78s, they worked well and didn't break or mush out like the Bones bushings did, but being 90 duro, one guy still said they were a little stiff, which I found hard to believe.


If you have a need for a bit more kingpin clearance, they work really well, either get them to where they need to be and angle grind the kingpin down, or even run the kingpin nut a little lower than on the usual bushings you had and still have some more play in the trucks.

Re bowl / transition skaters - yes one guy who skates only bowl and transition had them on and was skating as usual, but even for me, they are a little on the mushier side of what I like, usually on the 92 duro low Indy bushings, which allow a lot of turn but are not wobbly loose like some others have their trucks.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on June 18, 2023, 06:56:11 PM
https://youtu.be/6fBhJXhd7Jw

Best trick review in the history of
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YMCMB on June 19, 2023, 11:37:01 AM
Has anyone been on V-Casts yet?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on June 19, 2023, 11:56:06 AM
Has anyone been on V-Casts yet?
plenty of people already have already been running the frankenstein combo (hollow/Ti hanger with cast plates) in which Venture responded by rolling out the new model as a Kader pro model. Not sure why they were late on the game when Thunder has had a Team hollow offering for quite some time now

It's just a lighter cast truck. Nothing game-changing in the truck world
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on June 19, 2023, 05:59:00 PM
re: bowls....I think I've seen ben d skate them on transition.  I suspect quite tight but he could handle them pretty well.  Hi's I think are actually not a bad truck in transition, you can skate them on the looser side, and they are nice and predictable. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on June 20, 2023, 02:31:37 AM
Has anyone been on V-Casts yet?

I've been frankensteining with hollow 5.8 hangers on 20 year old cast plates for about 6 months now. Works like a charm.


re: bowls....I think I've seen ben d skate them on transition.  I suspect quite tight but he could handle them pretty well.  Hi's I think are actually not a bad truck in transition, you can skate them on the looser side, and they are nice and predictable. 

I'm not a great transition skater at all, so ymmv, but the highs with the conversion kit are a very underrated transition setup imo. Haven't come across a turn I couldn't make yet.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on June 26, 2023, 07:49:33 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/wcD7odr.jpeg)

Came across this old set of Ventures at my parent's house.

Dig that old AWAKE Logo on the hanger. Axles are bent, one kingpin is loose. Probably just going to toss em, but fun to look at!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on June 26, 2023, 12:15:16 PM
id keep the hangers, change the baseplates
use a worn down wheel you dont care about to counter axle slip
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: big_kev_215 on June 26, 2023, 01:46:35 PM
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Crossposting from the questions that don’t deserve their own thread thread (probably made more sense here):

Anyone use any other brands of replacement pivot cups in Venture baseplates?  I’m trying to figure out what would fit properly. 

I have Riptides in there now which have completely blown apart in like a month of skating.  Not trying to go down that road again.  I wish I kept the original Venture pivot cups from this set but they seem to have disappeared… I was looking at options and it seems like Indy and Ace sell replacement pivot cups but not many other brands.  Thanks!
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I usually stock up on the DLX pivot cups, which might be marketed as Thunder pivot cups, but they come loose in whatever quantity you want, so could be more a generic type but they seem to work in any trucks I have needed to put them in, mainly Indy, Thunder and Venture.

They are just plain black, fit snugly and seem to hold well for as long as is needed, so I would imagine it is down to certain shops as to what they get in and how they sell them.

Some of the other brands that have the blister pack or the hang sell card with stapled bag end up being more than twice the cost for the same number of pivot cups, so when I find them, I get a few at a time, here in AU.


Not sure if Indy still have boxes of 20 or so, but they used to be good as well and seem like they are almost the same product, maybe generic pivot cups they all get and then box them up or bag them as needed.



Edit:

As per the other thread, best answer:


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Deluxe makes replacement pivot cups. I got a set that worked perfectly in my Thunders but can't speak how well they would fit in Ventures. Doesn't look like the big online stores carry it (SkateWarehouse, Tactics, etc) but my local has them: https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/skateboarding/parts/bushings/deluxe/super-cush-pivot-cup-pid-13607
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Thanks for the recommendation everyone.  Stocked up on those deluxe pivot cups from cowtown and they’re great.  No break-in period and didn’t get shredded like the recent Riptides I’ve had.

(https://i.ibb.co/hLQtN7X/6711-E246-0862-430-D-B044-A12-C4-ADC3934.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hLQtN7X)

Hoping to get a couple more months out of these beauties
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on June 26, 2023, 03:57:20 PM
switching to thunder hard bushings after these supercush 97s
loving the stability and consistency of harder bushings
but miss the ability to easily turn with my lead foot
(angled grinded my kingpin a bit too far :()

wasnt sold on conical bushings in the softer duros
but hopefully this is what i was looking for
will report on my findings
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 26, 2023, 04:40:55 PM
switching to thunder hard bushings after these supercush 97s
loving the stability and consistency of harder bushings
but miss the ability to easily turn with my lead foot
(angled grinded my kingpin a bit too far :()

wasnt sold on conical bushings in the softer duros
but hopefully this is what i was looking for
will report on my findings

I put bones hard on top and Indy white barrels (no washer) on my Hi 5.8 and it’s a best of both worlds scenario for me tbh. Rock solid and very “Venture Stable” on center but a nice turn/carve that’s more in line with Stage XIs
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on June 26, 2023, 04:45:34 PM
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switching to thunder hard bushings after these supercush 97s
loving the stability and consistency of harder bushings
but miss the ability to easily turn with my lead foot
(angled grinded my kingpin a bit too far :()

wasnt sold on conical bushings in the softer duros
but hopefully this is what i was looking for
will report on my findings
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I put bones hard on top and Indy white barrels (no washer) on my Hi 5.8 and it’s a best of both worlds scenario for me tbh. Rock solid and very “Venture Stable” on center but a nice turn/carve that’s more in line with Stage XIs
so a softer bottom bushing should do the trick…
ill try to snag some in the loose parts bin before getting a new set
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 26, 2023, 04:53:26 PM
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switching to thunder hard bushings after these supercush 97s
loving the stability and consistency of harder bushings
but miss the ability to easily turn with my lead foot
(angled grinded my kingpin a bit too far :()

wasnt sold on conical bushings in the softer duros
but hopefully this is what i was looking for
will report on my findings
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I put bones hard on top and Indy white barrels (no washer) on my Hi 5.8 and it’s a best of both worlds scenario for me tbh. Rock solid and very “Venture Stable” on center but a nice turn/carve that’s more in line with Stage XIs
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so a softer bottom bushing should do the trick…
ill try to snag some in the loose parts bin before getting a new set

I’ve been messing around with hard/soft combos for a while now. My anecdotal opinion is harder tops seem to improve stability by keeping the hanger straighter (?) while the soft bottoms give a little more in regards to turning.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on June 27, 2023, 01:24:56 AM
got the loose trucks kit green bushings and whoa. kinda insane. 5.2 hi’s are now  loooooooose. feels fun, looks wrong (i skate by myself, in a semi deserted parking lot, this isn’t a cry for help, it’s the best case scenario for someone of my age, and particular ‘skill set’), the loosey goosey truck thing is abhorrent. although back when i could ollie decently i’d try and ollie from the flat to the deck of some ramps, and thinking about it is so shameful. but i cannot go back, so now i just try and keep my sins a little more under wraps, there will be no ‘look at me and how loose my trucks are’ shenanigans.
had anyone used these on a successful bowl type setup? i’ll admit that my beloved 5.2 lo’s, and 52s are not perfect for transitions. even tho i’m super old i’ve not learned backside disasters. mostly because i hate ramps. because i am a coward.

i just learned these (on ventures of course) after years of trying and it’s much easier if you put your front foot very close to the nose so that it’s already set up to roll in. nollie bs disasters help a little and then instead of doing that nollie pivot you basically do a hard bs revert on the back wheels while staying in the transition with your body weight
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on June 27, 2023, 05:50:10 AM
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got the loose trucks kit green bushings and whoa. kinda insane. 5.2 hi’s are now  loooooooose. feels fun, looks wrong (i skate by myself, in a semi deserted parking lot, this isn’t a cry for help, it’s the best case scenario for someone of my age, and particular ‘skill set’), the loosey goosey truck thing is abhorrent. although back when i could ollie decently i’d try and ollie from the flat to the deck of some ramps, and thinking about it is so shameful. but i cannot go back, so now i just try and keep my sins a little more under wraps, there will be no ‘look at me and how loose my trucks are’ shenanigans.
had anyone used these on a successful bowl type setup? i’ll admit that my beloved 5.2 lo’s, and 52s are not perfect for transitions. even tho i’m super old i’ve not learned backside disasters. mostly because i hate ramps. because i am a coward.
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i just learned these (on ventures of course) after years of trying and it’s much easier if you put your front foot very close to the nose so that it’s already set up to roll in. nollie bs disasters help a little and then instead of doing that nollie pivot you basically do a hard bs revert on the back wheels while staying in the transition with your body weight

so kind, thank you!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on June 28, 2023, 09:38:13 PM
update:
switched my bottom bushings to indy conical 90a
has the feeling i want but a harder duro would get me right
have a strong feeling bones hard bottoms (96a) is the ticket

funny coming nearly full circle with this shit again
almost completely back to dims and gear i was comfortable with
just with relatively small changes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on June 28, 2023, 10:25:31 PM
I think I’m running bones hard on bottom, broken in mediums top….seems to work fine.  I like the conical, no washer , gives the truck a tiny bit of flop if you really need it. 

Bought a black long sleeve…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Slugboi22 on June 30, 2023, 09:34:15 AM
might be a silly question but what size flat washer would you get for 5.6s? I’ve been neglecting going to a hardware store after work and would like to pick some up soon here…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oak leaf on June 30, 2023, 09:42:38 AM
might be a silly question but what size flat washer would you get for 5.6s? I’ve been neglecting going to a hardware store after work and would like to pick some up soon here…

not silly but id bring a roadside bushing to the store. i have different flat washers that fit flush on different brand bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on June 30, 2023, 10:10:17 AM
Inner diameter for washers needs to be 3/8 in. for the kingpin, and the the outer diameter should be 3/4 in. (Small cones/top bushings) or 7/8-1in. (Thicker cones—like Thunder, or standard barrels/bottom bushings).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on June 30, 2023, 01:39:34 PM
try and find bones flat washers
see them in skateshops spare parts bins all the time
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on July 01, 2023, 04:25:22 AM
Any recommendations on bushings for 5.6 v-hollows?
Smaller lightweight person here, like to ride on the looser side.
Tried the loose kit, was great first but crumbled quick.
Bones never last me long enough, feel great at the beginning, but then just loose all stability.
Currently on Indy conical soft, but the feel squirly after some months (+ the current heat).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on July 01, 2023, 07:46:55 AM
Any recommendations on bushings for 5.6 v-hollows?
Smaller lightweight person here, like to ride on the looser side.
Tried the loose kit, was great first but crumbled quick.
Bones never last me long enough, feel great at the beginning, but then just loose all stability.
Currently on Indy conical soft, but the feel squirly after some months (+ the current heat).

don't think bushings matter per sub-type of truck, but you could do 88a supercush if they are around at the moment
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on July 01, 2023, 08:00:50 AM
Any recommendations on bushings for 5.6 v-hollows?
Smaller lightweight person here, like to ride on the looser side.
Tried the loose kit, was great first but crumbled quick.
Bones never last me long enough, feel great at the beginning, but then just loose all stability.
Currently on Indy conical soft, but the feel squirly after some months (+ the current heat).

Supercush/DLX Bait & Tackle 88A are my favorite, but honestly, if you’re light and you like loose, I think the newer stock Indy bushings (started maybe late-2021?) might be even better. I feel like there are enough people out there who don’t ride the stock Indy bushings that you can always find a set somewhere.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on July 01, 2023, 10:50:38 AM
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Any recommendations on bushings for 5.6 v-hollows?
Smaller lightweight person here, like to ride on the looser side.
Tried the loose kit, was great first but crumbled quick.
Bones never last me long enough, feel great at the beginning, but then just loose all stability.
Currently on Indy conical soft, but the feel squirly after some months (+ the current heat).
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Supercush/DLX Bait & Tackle 88A are my favorite, but honestly, if you’re light and you like loose, I think the newer stock Indy bushings (started maybe late-2021?) might be even better. I feel like there are enough people out there who don’t ride the stock Indy bushings that you can always find a set somewhere.

90a indy busings are pretty much the same.
i recommend 88a indy w/ flat top washer
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on July 01, 2023, 01:36:23 PM
thx for the tips!
didn't think the type of venture truck matters, but sometimes people on this message board have interesting ideas I'd never think of... so I put it in.
Gonna check for Indy bushings
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mstuntbless on July 01, 2023, 03:08:12 PM
For all of you venture junkies…does the baseplate stick out past the wheels so you get that nice nose/tail slide lock in like on Indy? Or is it more or a thunder situation where the wheels are hitting the ledge?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on July 01, 2023, 03:21:40 PM
For all of you venture junkies…does the baseplate stick out past the wheels so you get that nice nose/tail slide lock in like on Indy? Or is it more or a thunder situation where the wheels are hitting the ledge?

you lock, then it gets more and more slid away. like on indys.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on July 01, 2023, 09:10:19 PM
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For all of you venture junkies…does the baseplate stick out past the wheels so you get that nice nose/tail slide lock in like on Indy? Or is it more or a thunder situation where the wheels are hitting the ledge?
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you lock, then it gets more and more slid away. like on indys.

Fuck yes, they stick out even more than an Indy IMO. Was skating a crusty street ledge today and I had no problems with slides, the guys rocking Indys were getting stuck pretty hard.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on July 02, 2023, 03:44:58 AM
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Any recommendations on bushings for 5.6 v-hollows?
Smaller lightweight person here, like to ride on the looser side.
Tried the loose kit, was great first but crumbled quick.
Bones never last me long enough, feel great at the beginning, but then just loose all stability.
Currently on Indy conical soft, but the feel squirly after some months (+ the current heat).
[close]

Supercush/DLX Bait & Tackle 88A are my favorite, but honestly, if you’re light and you like loose, I think the newer stock Indy bushings (started maybe late-2021?) might be even better. I feel like there are enough people out there who don’t ride the stock Indy bushings that you can always find a set somewhere.
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90a indy busings are pretty much the same.
i recommend 88a indy w/ flat top washer

Super weird coincindence...
Just found a set of brand new 88a Indy bushings in my spare parts box, but they are the barrel ones (so standard Indy form, one cylinder one conical). Gonna give those a try when I change my wheels and have to touch my trucks anyway.
Did you mean the 88a Indy conicals or cylinder?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on July 02, 2023, 10:29:39 AM
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Any recommendations on bushings for 5.6 v-hollows?
Smaller lightweight person here, like to ride on the looser side.
Tried the loose kit, was great first but crumbled quick.
Bones never last me long enough, feel great at the beginning, but then just loose all stability.
Currently on Indy conical soft, but the feel squirly after some months (+ the current heat).
[close]

Supercush/DLX Bait & Tackle 88A are my favorite, but honestly, if you’re light and you like loose, I think the newer stock Indy bushings (started maybe late-2021?) might be even better. I feel like there are enough people out there who don’t ride the stock Indy bushings that you can always find a set somewhere.
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90a indy busings are pretty much the same.
i recommend 88a indy w/ flat top washer
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Super weird coincindence...
Just found a set of brand new 88a Indy bushings in my spare parts box, but they are the barrel ones (so standard Indy form, one cylinder one conical). Gonna give those a try when I change my wheels and have to touch my trucks anyway.
Did you mean the 88a Indy conicals or cylinder?

https://imgur.com/KtieE6a

5.2 low here, cylinder and nut flush(was), haha
flat washer helps too, when maxing out turing, std washer clipped to the inner side of the tuck (you might some scratches), and flat washer won't bite into top bushing.
 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mstuntbless on July 02, 2023, 05:13:55 PM
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For all of you venture junkies…does the baseplate 
stick out past the wheels so you get that nice nose/tail slide lock in like on Indy? Or is it more or a thunder situation where the wheels are hitting the ledge?
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you lock, then it gets more and more slid away. like on indys.
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Fuck yes, they stick out even more than an Indy IMO. Was skating a crusty street ledge today and I had no problems with slides, the guys rocking Indys were getting stuck pretty hard.
 
 
^thats good to hear. I skated thunders for a few years…then switched to Indy. I like the Indy grind and baseplate slide but they are so heavy. I was thinking about pulling the trigger on some 5.6 Yuto forged hollows…thinking they might be a good middle ground between the 2
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on July 08, 2023, 11:26:26 PM
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Any recommendations on bushings for 5.6 v-hollows?
Smaller lightweight person here, like to ride on the looser side.
Tried the loose kit, was great first but crumbled quick.
Bones never last me long enough, feel great at the beginning, but then just loose all stability.
Currently on Indy conical soft, but the feel squirly after some months (+ the current heat).
[close]

Supercush/DLX Bait & Tackle 88A are my favorite, but honestly, if you’re light and you like loose, I think the newer stock Indy bushings (started maybe late-2021?) might be even better. I feel like there are enough people out there who don’t ride the stock Indy bushings that you can always find a set somewhere.
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90a indy busings are pretty much the same.
i recommend 88a indy w/ flat top washer

The 88A Indy aftermarkets have a notoriously shitty reputation. Worst bushings anyone’s ever skated. The stock 90A Indy bushings are looser feeling than the stock 90A DLX bushings. They ain’t the same.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on July 09, 2023, 12:21:57 AM
is there any green coloured aftermarket bushings?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on July 09, 2023, 10:58:57 AM
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Any recommendations on bushings for 5.6 v-hollows?
Smaller lightweight person here, like to ride on the looser side.
Tried the loose kit, was great first but crumbled quick.
Bones never last me long enough, feel great at the beginning, but then just loose all stability.
Currently on Indy conical soft, but the feel squirly after some months (+ the current heat).
[close]

Supercush/DLX Bait & Tackle 88A are my favorite, but honestly, if you’re light and you like loose, I think the newer stock Indy bushings (started maybe late-2021?) might be even better. I feel like there are enough people out there who don’t ride the stock Indy bushings that you can always find a set somewhere.
[close]

90a indy busings are pretty much the same.
i recommend 88a indy w/ flat top washer
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The 88A Indy aftermarkets have a notoriously shitty reputation. Worst bushings anyone’s ever skated. The stock 90A Indy bushings are looser feeling than the stock 90A DLX bushings. They ain’t the same.

cool, i didn't know 88a indy have bad reputation, then mayge get 90a indy, i was thinking 88a have same quality as 90a, thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GT on July 09, 2023, 01:24:35 PM
is there any green coloured aftermarket bushings?

Maybe these

DECOMPOSED Fireflies 60d/100a bushings

https://www.decomposedskateboards.com/bushings/f0o5uetymm4v80h9pmjotlwkynhro2

Or these
https://selectskateshop.com/products/tracker-bushing-kit-hard

And offcourse the venture green loose kit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on July 10, 2023, 10:01:30 AM
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is there any green coloured aftermarket bushings?
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Maybe these

DECOMPOSED Fireflies 60d/100a bushings

https://www.decomposedskateboards.com/bushings/f0o5uetymm4v80h9pmjotlwkynhro2

Or these
https://selectskateshop.com/products/tracker-bushing-kit-hard

And offcourse the venture green loose kit

lifesaver..thanks man
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on July 10, 2023, 10:09:04 AM
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Any recommendations on bushings for 5.6 v-hollows?
Smaller lightweight person here, like to ride on the looser side.
Tried the loose kit, was great first but crumbled quick.
Bones never last me long enough, feel great at the beginning, but then just loose all stability.
Currently on Indy conical soft, but the feel squirly after some months (+ the current heat).
[close]

Supercush/DLX Bait & Tackle 88A are my favorite, but honestly, if you’re light and you like loose, I think the newer stock Indy bushings (started maybe late-2021?) might be even better. I feel like there are enough people out there who don’t ride the stock Indy bushings that you can always find a set somewhere.
[close]

90a indy busings are pretty much the same.
i recommend 88a indy w/ flat top washer
[close]

The 88A Indy aftermarkets have a notoriously shitty reputation. Worst bushings anyone’s ever skated. The stock 90A Indy bushings are looser feeling than the stock 90A DLX bushings. They ain’t the same.

Thx for the tip!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on July 14, 2023, 05:15:30 PM
violet x venture
5.6 team editions
black 90du bushings
(https://i.ibb.co/dMQykyG/0-C0-A0-F74-F512-4-CA9-8-B9-D-A5-A19-E329-A29.jpg) (https://ibb.co/W5c1B1g)
(https://i.ibb.co/2MdQjxM/F7-AAB6-A8-76-CA-4580-8-A91-DDE90-C8959-E2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X5tgz15)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on July 14, 2023, 05:27:53 PM
violet x venture
5.6 team editions
black 90du bushings
(https://i.ibb.co/dMQykyG/0-C0-A0-F74-F512-4-CA9-8-B9-D-A5-A19-E329-A29.jpg) (https://ibb.co/W5c1B1g)
(https://i.ibb.co/2MdQjxM/F7-AAB6-A8-76-CA-4580-8-A91-DDE90-C8959-E2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/X5tgz15)
here to laugh at the blurry marketing pics again
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 14, 2023, 05:34:22 PM
Any recommendations on bushings for 5.6 v-hollows?
Smaller lightweight person here, like to ride on the looser side.
Tried the loose kit, was great first but crumbled quick.
Bones never last me long enough, feel great at the beginning, but then just loose all stability.
Currently on Indy conical soft, but the feel squirly after some months (+ the current heat).

White Indy super soft. Cylinder style.

Those are the next best to the loose trucks kit. They don't crumble at all. I've ran the same set for 3 winters off and on. still looking good.

There's a few others pals who rock um.

Last year I was in the lowering kit. They are crumbly but it still feels good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on July 15, 2023, 06:56:49 AM
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Any recommendations on bushings for 5.6 v-hollows?
Smaller lightweight person here, like to ride on the looser side.
Tried the loose kit, was great first but crumbled quick.
Bones never last me long enough, feel great at the beginning, but then just loose all stability.
Currently on Indy conical soft, but the feel squirly after some months (+ the current heat).
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White Indy super soft. Cylinder style.

Those are the next best to the loose trucks kit. They don't crumble at all. I've ran the same set for 3 winters off and on. still looking good.

There's a few others pals who rock um.

Last year I was in the lowering kit. They are crumbly but it still feels good.

Damn, thanks!
Have the feeling these temperature changes in central europe fuck up bushings so quick. Hate changing them, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on July 15, 2023, 12:41:34 PM
Nah DLX bushings kinda crumble. Myself and my Thunder friends also have issues with crumbling and splitting, but for some reason NHS and Ace bushings don't do this.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on July 15, 2023, 01:36:08 PM
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Any recommendations on bushings for 5.6 v-hollows?
Smaller lightweight person here, like to ride on the looser side.
Tried the loose kit, was great first but crumbled quick.
Bones never last me long enough, feel great at the beginning, but then just loose all stability.
Currently on Indy conical soft, but the feel squirly after some months (+ the current heat).
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White Indy super soft. Cylinder style.

Those are the next best to the loose trucks kit. They don't crumble at all. I've ran the same set for 3 winters off and on. still looking good.

There's a few others pals who rock um.

Last year I was in the lowering kit. They are crumbly but it still feels good.
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Damn, thanks!
Have the feeling these temperature changes in central europe fuck up bushings so quick. Hate changing them, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
I rocked the white super softs during the winter as well and can recommend it. BUT when it's not freezing or even hot, those are almost like having no bushings at all. Bones mediums work all year (until they explode for no reason)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on July 15, 2023, 03:02:06 PM
Is it commonly the top or bottom of bones which go?  Top right?  Wouldn’t a move be to mix them up ie. venture loose top, bones med or soft on bottom?  It’s not for everyone and I don’t weigh anything but I prefer conicals, it’s just more responsive…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: KidCarl on July 19, 2023, 11:36:56 AM
Has anyone on venture 5.6's replaced the kingpin with a hollow? I want to give it a shot but don't want to buy too long of a kingpin.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on July 19, 2023, 08:26:34 PM
Has anyone on venture 5.6's replaced the kingpin with a hollow? I want to give it a shot but don't want to buy too long of a kingpin.


I got a set of Venture trucks from someone who changed the regular kingpin out to a hollow and it was the same height as the original kingpin and didn't look at all like it had been changed, eg no hammer marks or anything so I assume he had a press or something similar.

Not to say everything is the same standard size nowdays, but I think most brands that offer replacement kingpins seem to be the same from checking the ones I have had.

More than anything it is just the process in removing and replacing kingpins, which has always been a bit of a struggle, but if you have a press or something similar, then it is a whole lot easier than just hammering the thing out and then hammering a new one in.

The Thunder hollow kingpin seems to be the most common one around, but I know there are others too.  And yes it will fit and work fine.






Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on July 19, 2023, 10:16:07 PM
I’ve always wanted to do it with a krux IKP but the clearance and geo on a venture is pretty good. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on July 20, 2023, 01:58:43 AM
I’ve always wanted to do it with a krux IKP but the clearance and geo on a venture is pretty good.
I tried once on my venture low, it's almost the same clearence as stock one.
and i can't bear the little wobble on IKP, i'd say it's not worth it.
if you need more clearence, use an angle grinder.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on July 20, 2023, 10:09:14 AM
As nutty as I am...I actually respect the brand too much....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on July 20, 2023, 11:01:32 PM
I’ve always wanted to do it with a krux IKP but the clearance and geo on a venture is pretty good.

just measred them, from bottom fo plate to KP top

std 56mm (nut flush)
IKP 53.5mm~54.2mm (crank to max~nut flush(as std))
angle grinder 50~51mm(nut flush)

for someone skate tight trucks may worth a try, grind down the thread on IKP.
but i skate nut flush :/ , KP clearence has always been the issue of venture low.

(https://i.ibb.co/YNk9Fwr/PXL-20230721-055526293-NIGHT.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YNk9Fwr)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on July 21, 2023, 06:45:38 AM
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I’ve always wanted to do it with a krux IKP but the clearance and geo on a venture is pretty good.
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just measred them, from bottom fo plate to KP top

std 56mm (nut flush)
IKP 53.5mm~54.2mm (crank to max~nut flush(as std))
angle grinder 50~51mm(nut flush)

for someone skate tight trucks may worth a try, grind down the thread on IKP.
but i skate nut flush :/ , KP clearence has always been the issue of venture low.

(https://i.ibb.co/YNk9Fwr/PXL-20230721-055526293-NIGHT.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YNk9Fwr)

venture loose bushings (or shave your current bushings down) + grind down the KP = clearance
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Shalom Peterson on July 24, 2023, 10:51:48 AM
Hit axle today on my back truck! I've been skating them for about six months. I've rotated them once. They went thru four decks and two sets of wheels. I don't see them making past this current deck, today was the first session with it.

I skate standard 6.1s with loose conversion bushings from day one. The gold baseplates are from Venue Skateboard's Venture collab. I bought some 5.2s and swapped the baseplates with the silver from the 6.1s.

I LOVE them. They took a lil getting used to, coming from a lifelong Indy and Ace rider, but once I got used to the turning and wheelbase, I fell in love.

The baseplate is my favorite part. It's HUGE. I love the fact that I have grooves on the inside of my baseplates.

The bushings are fucking awesome too. They don't freeze up in the cold, they make your trucks feel super loose, and they create grind clearance. I'm still barely grinding on the nut or kingpin. Definitely worth the extra $8. I hope they release them in more colors.

I can't wait to expose the axel more. It's motivating me right now to skate as much as much as possible.

(https://i.ibb.co/KrhSKnh/20230724-132022.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/LP2r4wX/20230724-132254.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/3fd5GNC/20230724-132128.jpg)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 24, 2023, 04:38:29 PM
Few things are as fun as looking at your grind marks.
I love to look and see what is going on down there. Especially after mashing painted curbs.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on July 25, 2023, 07:59:29 AM
Few things are as fun as looking at your grind marks.
I love to look and see what is going on down there. Especially after mashing painted curbs.
This.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Urtripping on July 27, 2023, 04:45:55 AM
Noticed a crack on one of my 5.2 high hangers. :(

Not skated hard or close worn out. Who do I contact at DLXSF?

https://www.dlxsf.com/warranty/


Put some 6.1's on a shortish wb 8.75 yesterday and had a cruise to see how they compare to aces. Did some ollies and kickflips, then bombed a hill. Set em up so they were super loose (removed some washers and messed with some bushings), rattling front truck and pretty squirrelly back. I did feel that even though I was running them looser than my usual setup, they had a stability and return to center that I don't typically feel on ace.

Taking em to some transition today for the true proving ground. If I like how they feel on concrete, then I might fully convert.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on July 28, 2023, 03:45:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/m7V0lcV.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: VCR on July 29, 2023, 12:01:06 PM
I emailed Deluxe last week about the V-cast and they said the following.

“There are indeed more V-Cast coming soon! No sneak peeks, but one design dropping very soon, and another in the Fall.”

Makes me think they won’t be basic polished but who knows
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tom Pearl on July 29, 2023, 03:01:35 PM
what is v cast? 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on July 29, 2023, 03:40:55 PM
what is v cast?

Hollow axle cast plate. Like the thunder team hollows. I have some now and I enjoy them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on July 30, 2023, 03:43:52 AM
About 6 skates in on my second pair of 5.6 standards fuck I love these things. Groove getting there now!. Running doh doh’s 92’s stock washers, working really well for me. (https://i.imgur.com/tcjlBFb.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tom Pearl on July 30, 2023, 02:20:04 PM
About 6 skates in on my second pair of 5.6 standards fuck I love these things. Groove getting there now!. Running doh doh’s 92’s stock washers, working really well for me. (https://i.imgur.com/tcjlBFb.jpg)


i run doh dohs in my 5.2 lows, had the same ones in for like a year now and they're still going strong
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on July 30, 2023, 04:02:18 PM
i'm curious, how do the 92 doh dohs compare to stock venture bushings?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Meathook on July 30, 2023, 04:39:59 PM
They’re not that dissimilar from stock, definitely softer than Indy 92a.  FWIW Indy aftermarket bushings fit venture low and high near perfect enough to use.  I’m riding the blues in 5.2 lows after my stock just crumbled.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on July 30, 2023, 05:52:46 PM
i'm curious, how do the 92 doh dohs compare to stock venture bushings?

As mentioned quite similar to stock, I find them a little more responsive. I slappy a lot and tend to blow out bushing super quickly especially if I’m skating a 90deg curb. Theses just seem to last longer for me over the stock purple ones.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FUBAR on July 30, 2023, 06:29:48 PM
I do the Indy hard black ones in my Ventures and love em!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on July 30, 2023, 07:16:25 PM
nice, thanks to everyone for sharing info
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on July 30, 2023, 10:31:09 PM
I run bones and love them…..so clearly it’s just the trucks that rule…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on July 31, 2023, 12:45:52 AM
Which bushings work on Ventures? No way I can find that Venture conversion kit in here and stock feel way too hard.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PuffinMuffin on July 31, 2023, 01:55:34 AM
Which bushings work on Ventures? No way I can find that Venture conversion kit in here and stock feel way too hard.

I really like Polster bushings. The board side Polster bushings measure 14mm, the same as Venture, so they work great in Ventures. The roadside Polster bushing is shorter than stock Venture, but a hair taller than the Venture conversion kit. They haven't split or chunked out yet. They feel robust and stable.

The Venture conversion kit was great until I skated in 4°C weather. They hardened and cracked.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on July 31, 2023, 02:05:44 AM
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Which bushings work on Ventures? No way I can find that Venture conversion kit in here and stock feel way too hard.
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I really like Polster bushings. The board side Polster bushings measure 14mm, the same as Venture, so they work great in Ventures. The roadside Polster bushing is shorter than stock Venture, but a hair taller than the Venture conversion kit. They haven't split or chunked out yet. They feel robust and stable.

The Venture conversion kit was great until I skated in 4°C weather. They hardened and cracked.
Awesome Intel, ty :)
Sadly here in Prague only bushing options are pretty much Socket (local brand, no idea if they're good), Bones and Indy.
Maybe a good idea is to grow a pair and see if the stock ones get better with time (after losing them ofc)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on July 31, 2023, 02:22:49 AM
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Which bushings work on Ventures? No way I can find that Venture conversion kit in here and stock feel way too hard.
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I really like Polster bushings. The board side Polster bushings measure 14mm, the same as Venture, so they work great in Ventures. The roadside Polster bushing is shorter than stock Venture, but a hair taller than the Venture conversion kit. They haven't split or chunked out yet. They feel robust and stable.

The Venture conversion kit was great until I skated in 4°C weather. They hardened and cracked.
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Awesome Intel, ty :)
Sadly here in Prague only bushing options are pretty much Socket (local brand, no idea if they're good), Bones and Indy.
Maybe a good idea is to grow a pair and see if the stock ones get better with time (after losing them ofc)

Another thing you can do is just sand down the top bushing 1mm or two and you’ll get exactly the same result loose kit bushings as that’s the only difference . I’ve done it plenty of times just using a spare sheet of grip. Little bit of elbow grease and you’re golden.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on July 31, 2023, 04:51:27 AM
I’ve been skating Indy 92a blue top stock bottom. But with this heat and swapping to bones v5 from conical f4s the stability changed so I’m bout to throw the matching 92a bottom in to try and get that stability back
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on July 31, 2023, 05:24:32 AM
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Which bushings work on Ventures? No way I can find that Venture conversion kit in here and stock feel way too hard.
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I really like Polster bushings. The board side Polster bushings measure 14mm, the same as Venture, so they work great in Ventures. The roadside Polster bushing is shorter than stock Venture, but a hair taller than the Venture conversion kit. They haven't split or chunked out yet. They feel robust and stable.

The Venture conversion kit was great until I skated in 4°C weather. They hardened and cracked.
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Awesome Intel, ty :)
Sadly here in Prague only bushing options are pretty much Socket (local brand, no idea if they're good), Bones and Indy.
Maybe a good idea is to grow a pair and see if the stock ones get better with time (after losing them ofc)
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Another thing you can do is just sand down the top bushing 1mm or two and you’ll get exactly the same result loose kit bushings as that’s the only difference . I’ve done it plenty of times just using a spare sheet of grip. Little bit of elbow grease and you’re golden.
This sounds like a nice fix, I'll give it a try. Thx G 👊
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on July 31, 2023, 07:10:12 AM
Which bushings work on Ventures? No way I can find that Venture conversion kit in here and stock feel way too hard.

Stock Indy bushings work great if you want to loosen up your Ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on July 31, 2023, 07:48:46 AM
another thing that really helps with a stubborn set of ventures to get them smooth is to wax all the contacts and get some wax in that pivot cup, I feel like that made a bigger difference than any bushing mods. I waxed the hanger where the bushings go and the pivot and it got a stiff pair feeling indy smooth, especially after doing some slappies and bombing some hills. aside from that I think the qc isn't the greatest on ventures, I've had a few pairs ranging from really smooth out of the box to super stiff. they all broke in the same though after skating for a bit.

my last pair if you'd put all your weight on one side you'd just tip the board over and not wheeibite no matter how loose I had them, any attempts to make them looser made them feel like shit. not smooth. did the wax trick and then broke them in and they feel great, all stock.

otherwise yeah indy bushings or whatever aftermarket that fit in indys you can find. always wanted some doh dohs to try for mine but stock usually last long enough for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: venture5.8 on July 31, 2023, 08:56:09 AM
I emailed Deluxe last week about the V-cast and they said the following.

“There are indeed more V-Cast coming soon! No sneak peeks, but one design dropping very soon, and another in the Fall.”

Makes me think they won’t be basic polished but who knows

I know there is a skate jawn venture colab happening (there was an ad for it in the newest issue).
Hoping those are v cast. If they already put an ad out that could be the "very soon" set
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: VCR on July 31, 2023, 06:48:01 PM
Hopefully they got a 5.8 in the mix
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fifty8mm on July 31, 2023, 11:12:12 PM
Anybody experience the wobble in the pivot with 5.2 lows. I can't ride them as loose as i want cause of this. The trucks wobble horizontally in the pivot yoke even if going straight. More than the acceptable amount. Especialy on rougher terrain.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on August 01, 2023, 01:26:00 AM
hope they release more raw finished trucks..5.8's-6.1's
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Boog on August 01, 2023, 07:10:58 AM
hope they release more raw finished trucks..5.8's-6.1's
Same here homie
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Radim on August 04, 2023, 01:58:04 AM
currently switched from 5.2 V-Lights to V-Hollows.

Any experience with axle bending for V-hollows?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on August 04, 2023, 04:12:03 AM
Are the purple bushings like 98 duro? Still not sure if I should shave down the top bushing or just get Indy bushings
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 04, 2023, 04:38:19 AM
Are the purple bushings like 98 duro? Still not sure if I should shave down the top bushing or just get Indy bushings


They used to be a lot harder than they are now, so unless you have an old set, then no they haven't been 98 duro since maybe changing over from Street Corner Dist to DLX around 2011 or so, but the exact change I am unsure of in that regard.

Any current truck (from the last few years at least) is going to have 90 duro stock bushings, in purple, red, black, green, clear, etc.  All stock bushings are the same, so they say.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on August 04, 2023, 04:52:43 AM
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Are the purple bushings like 98 duro? Still not sure if I should shave down the top bushing or just get Indy bushings
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They used to be a lot harder than they are now, so unless you have an old set, then no they haven't been 98 duro since maybe changing over from Street Corner Dist to DLX around 2011 or so, but the exact change I am unsure of in that regard.

Any current truck (from the last few years at least) is going to have 90 duro stock bushings, in purple, red, black, green, clear, etc.  All stock bushings are the same, so they say.
These V-Lights sure are recent but bushings are super hard, maybe is because como go from AF1 but I know I'm not that of a loose truck skater at all.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 04, 2023, 05:29:20 AM
Anybody experience the wobble in the pivot with 5.2 lows. I can't ride them as loose as i want cause of this. The trucks wobble horizontally in the pivot yoke even if going straight. More than the acceptable amount. Especialy on rougher terrain.

5.6 v hollow had play in the pivot area. I miss it. I get the same joyous shimmies out of loose bolts and oval plates.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: KidCarl on August 04, 2023, 09:22:37 AM
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Has anyone on venture 5.6's replaced the kingpin with a hollow? I want to give it a shot but don't want to buy too long of a kingpin.
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I got a set of Venture trucks from someone who changed the regular kingpin out to a hollow and it was the same height as the original kingpin and didn't look at all like it had been changed, eg no hammer marks or anything so I assume he had a press or something similar.

Not to say everything is the same standard size nowdays, but I think most brands that offer replacement kingpins seem to be the same from checking the ones I have had.

More than anything it is just the process in removing and replacing kingpins, which has always been a bit of a struggle, but if you have a press or something similar, then it is a whole lot easier than just hammering the thing out and then hammering a new one in.

The Thunder hollow kingpin seems to be the most common one around, but I know there are others too.  And yes it will fit and work fine.
Thanks man, I've been wanting to try a hollow kingpin just to see if it changes the weight at all. I'm somewhat a bigger dude. 6'2" 180lbs., so I've been weary about trying a set of hollow trucks. I've just heard too many stories of peoples axles bending.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on August 04, 2023, 10:20:52 AM
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Has anyone on venture 5.6's replaced the kingpin with a hollow? I want to give it a shot but don't want to buy too long of a kingpin.
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I got a set of Venture trucks from someone who changed the regular kingpin out to a hollow and it was the same height as the original kingpin and didn't look at all like it had been changed, eg no hammer marks or anything so I assume he had a press or something similar.

Not to say everything is the same standard size nowdays, but I think most brands that offer replacement kingpins seem to be the same from checking the ones I have had.

More than anything it is just the process in removing and replacing kingpins, which has always been a bit of a struggle, but if you have a press or something similar, then it is a whole lot easier than just hammering the thing out and then hammering a new one in.

The Thunder hollow kingpin seems to be the most common one around, but I know there are others too.  And yes it will fit and work fine.
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Thanks man, I've been wanting to try a hollow kingpin just to see if it changes the weight at all. I'm somewhat a bigger dude. 6'2" 180lbs., so I've been weary about trying a set of hollow trucks. I've just heard too many stories of peoples axles bending.

I’m on the cast hollows and I’m 6’1” and like 210 right now. And mine haven’t bent on me. But I’m not skating stairs and shit mostly ledges but I think you’ll be fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: KidCarl on August 04, 2023, 10:33:36 AM
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Has anyone on venture 5.6's replaced the kingpin with a hollow? I want to give it a shot but don't want to buy too long of a kingpin.
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I got a set of Venture trucks from someone who changed the regular kingpin out to a hollow and it was the same height as the original kingpin and didn't look at all like it had been changed, eg no hammer marks or anything so I assume he had a press or something similar.

Not to say everything is the same standard size nowdays, but I think most brands that offer replacement kingpins seem to be the same from checking the ones I have had.

More than anything it is just the process in removing and replacing kingpins, which has always been a bit of a struggle, but if you have a press or something similar, then it is a whole lot easier than just hammering the thing out and then hammering a new one in.

The Thunder hollow kingpin seems to be the most common one around, but I know there are others too.  And yes it will fit and work fine.
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Thanks man, I've been wanting to try a hollow kingpin just to see if it changes the weight at all. I'm somewhat a bigger dude. 6'2" 180lbs., so I've been weary about trying a set of hollow trucks. I've just heard too many stories of peoples axles bending.
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I’m on the cast hollows and I’m 6’1” and like 210 right now. And mine haven’t bent on me. But I’m not skating stairs and shit mostly ledges but I think you’ll be fine.
Thank you.
I'll have to give them a shot once I settle on a deck size. I've been contemplating sizing up so this might be the perfect time. Just gotta keep an eye on hardgood sales.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chaosisme on August 05, 2023, 06:24:38 PM
Now that 8.5 is like the standard, surely they will consider doing a 5.6 Low, this would be an absolute dream. I’ve always loved my 5.2 lows but I’d love to size up and still skate ventures, 5.6 and 5.8 are cool but if they came as a low that would be so so perfect!

Has anyone heard anything about this being a possibility at all?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 05, 2023, 07:07:30 PM
no.....i have given up, and the hi is actually a good truck....and low enough.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 05, 2023, 08:22:36 PM
no.....i have given up, and the hi is actually a good truck....and low enough.


Re low enough.

Especially if people run them on forged baseplates, but I get it with people who want a low truck that is a bit wider.  Looking at a few sets of the Venture low trucks I have from past eras I can see the sort of setups that were in back then, both 5.0 and 5.2 sizes on 50 mm or smaller wheels and fairly narrow decks, compared to what is around now.

Maybe there is just not enough interest in it for the people in charge, given the bigger wide wheel and at minimum mid to taller height truck trend seems to be more the go.  Mid being 52 - 53 mm in height, which Venture fit right into on forged baseplates.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YeoWhattup on August 05, 2023, 08:54:20 PM
Now that 8.5 is like the standard, surely they will consider doing a 5.6 Low, this would be an absolute dream. I’ve always loved my 5.2 lows but I’d love to size up and still skate ventures, 5.6 and 5.8 are cool but if they came as a low that would be so so perfect!

Has anyone heard anything about this being a possibility at all?

Came here to ask this same question. If they made 5.6 lows with cast plates I’d definitely buy them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 05, 2023, 11:01:37 PM
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Now that 8.5 is like the standard, surely they will consider doing a 5.6 Low, this would be an absolute dream. I’ve always loved my 5.2 lows but I’d love to size up and still skate ventures, 5.6 and 5.8 are cool but if they came as a low that would be so so perfect!

Has anyone heard anything about this being a possibility at all?
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Came here to ask this same question. If they made 5.6 lows with cast plates I’d definitely buy them

Preaching to the chior fellas
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: AlumarX on August 16, 2023, 05:43:46 PM
My deck got into an accident, but I had some leftover grip to patch it lol. And since the deck was trash I decided to throw some thunder hangers on venture cast plates and holy hell did this combo feel good. I used the stock venture bushings that I rode for a few months and it turns way better, but the stability is still there and it just rips.

Also, broken-in indy bushings on Venture Lows are perfect. Just enough of a turn to not feel awful.

(https://i.imgur.com/ErM2DWB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1K69H61.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GFE1fBu.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on August 17, 2023, 09:20:14 AM
My deck got into an accident, but I had some leftover grip to patch it lol. And since the deck was trash I decided to throw some thunder hangers on venture cast plates and holy hell did this combo feel good. I used the stock venture bushings that I rode for a few months and it turns way better, but the stability is still there and it just rips.

Also, broken-in indy bushings on Venture Lows are perfect. Just enough of a turn to not feel awful.

(https://i.imgur.com/ErM2DWB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1K69H61.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GFE1fBu.jpg)

nice Vender trucks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 17, 2023, 10:23:55 AM
I'm about to go out and mash the curb rn. I noticed that I'm way less stoked than I was on the 5.8

I find myself day dreaming about the truck as I'm getting ready to go. I really miss it.

I also miss my Glue boards.

I'm on a 14" WB rn and it's good but I'm not gonna front. I like the bigger WB these days.

Also my absolute favorite currently irreplaceable wheels are definitely below 54mm. I been getting caught up on bricks and cracks like woah.

If I don't find more work soon I'm going to die. I'm like 150 lbs.

Edit all the crying
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DeadSquidMask on August 17, 2023, 11:50:03 AM
I'm about to go out and mash the curb rn. I noticed that I'm way less stoked than I was on the 5.8

I find myself day dreaming about the truck as I'm getting ready to go. I really miss it.

I also miss my Glue boards.

I'm on a 14" WB rn and it's good but I'm not gonna front. I like the bigger WB these days.

Also my absolute favorite currently irreplaceable wheels are definitely below 54mm. I been getting caught up on bricks and cracks like woah.

If I don't find more work soon I'm going to die. I'm like 150 lbs.

Edit all the crying


I don’t post much, my opinions carry no weight here, but I think most of your posts are modern poetry and I can relate to this shit right here!

Just spent 2 weeks visiting the family. I finally re-gained about 10-15 pounds of desperately needed body weight. A year of no work and compulsive desperation-skating have really shrunk me down to meth-addict dimensions.

Re: Venture trucks - I just mounted some 5.2 on my 8-inch popsicle, skated 3 very long flipping sessions, and I feel like I’m back in love with my high school girlfriend from 1993. I’m also about the same stature now, 😂.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on August 17, 2023, 01:27:31 PM
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My deck got into an accident, but I had some leftover grip to patch it lol. And since the deck was trash I decided to throw some thunder hangers on venture cast plates and holy hell did this combo feel good. I used the stock venture bushings that I rode for a few months and it turns way better, but the stability is still there and it just rips.

Also, broken-in indy bushings on Venture Lows are perfect. Just enough of a turn to not feel awful.

(https://i.imgur.com/ErM2DWB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1K69H61.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GFE1fBu.jpg)
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nice Vender trucks

These are Thuntures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 17, 2023, 09:40:16 PM
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I'm about to go out and mash the curb rn. I noticed that I'm way less stoked than I was on the 5.8

I find myself day dreaming about the truck as I'm getting ready to go. I really miss it.

I also miss my Glue boards.

I'm on a 14" WB rn and it's good but I'm not gonna front. I like the bigger WB these days.

Also my absolute favorite currently irreplaceable wheels are definitely below 54mm. I been getting caught up on bricks and cracks like woah.

If I don't find more work soon I'm going to die. I'm like 150 lbs.

Edit all the crying

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I don’t post much, my opinions carry no weight here, but I think most of your posts are modern poetry and I can relate to this shit right here!

Just spent 2 weeks visiting the family. I finally re-gained about 10-15 pounds of desperately needed body weight. A year of no work and compulsive desperation-skating have really shrunk me down to meth-addict dimensions.

Re: Venture trucks - I just mounted some 5.2 on my 8-inch popsicle, skated 3 very long flipping sessions, and I feel like I’m back in love with my high school girlfriend from 1993. I’m also about the same stature now, 😂.

That's good. I'll try the same.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: runespliffberg on August 19, 2023, 07:43:48 PM
I have some ventures in my spare parts box, bought them for nostalgia, but absolutely hate them after years of skating turny-trucks. They definitely have the coolest branding and I want to like them. These trucks do not turn well, and I hate tic-tacking. Would removing the bottom washer, thus pulling the WB in, and running indy conical bushings help with deeper smoother turns? Or is it just a characteristic of these trucks and I have to accept that I will give these away at the park?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on August 19, 2023, 08:00:43 PM
I think it’s a mix of fresh trucks and QC with venture. Currently have ventures on my board and they turn great, but they were pretty stiff when new. Waxed where the bushings go and the pivot cups, bombed hills and did slappys and they’re super smooth.

Also had a pair that was loose out of the gate and stayed smooth.

I don’t think the green bushings, or flat washers or any of that is necessary to get them feeling good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 19, 2023, 08:00:55 PM
I have some ventures in my spare parts box, bought them for nostalgia, but absolutely hate them after years of skating turny-trucks. They definitely have the coolest branding and I want to like them. These trucks do not turn well, and I hate tic-tacking. Would removing the bottom washer, thus pulling the WB in, and running indy conical bushings help with deeper smoother turns? Or is it just a characteristic of these trucks and I have to accept that I will give these away at the park?


Definitely try combinations of this and that if you are already at the point where you just don't want to deal with them any other way.

Removing the bottom washer will make them looser to a degree, but the interesting thing with other trucks like Ace is that with the taller bottom bushing, the trucks turn a whole lot more, so you could even try a taller bottom bushing / lower top bushing combo, or add an extra washer underneath and see how that feels too.

When I did it to other brand trucks, I was surprised that they felt way more turny without going straight to wheelbite, but that was just me.  I had cut off a single mm of top bushing, then put the cut off bit under the hanger with the bottom bushing and it made the biggest difference to how the trucks turned and reacted.

A fun thing to do at least.



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I think it’s a mix of fresh trucks and QC with venture. Currently have ventures on my board and they turn great, but they were pretty stiff when new. Waxed where the bushings go and the pivot cups, bombed hills and did slappys and they’re super smooth.

Also had a pair that was loose out of the gate and stayed smooth.

I don’t think the green bushings, or flat washers or any of that is necessary to get them feeling good.


Yes the wax between all bushings, washers, etc really does "loosen" everything up a lot when I tried it too.

Sometimes that is all that could be needed to go from feeling too stiff to having a whole lot more turn from the exact same trucks and not changing anything out on them.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on August 19, 2023, 08:04:34 PM
I have some ventures in my spare parts box, bought them for nostalgia, but absolutely hate them after years of skating turny-trucks. They definitely have the coolest branding and I want to like them. These trucks do not turn well, and I hate tic-tacking. Would removing the bottom washer, thus pulling the WB in, and running indy conical bushings help with deeper smoother turns? Or is it just a characteristic of these trucks and I have to accept that I will give these away at the park?


ventures can absolutely be adjusted to turn, significantly, but they are not ace/indy. which to me, is why i like them: ventures turn enough, with noticeably more pop.
but if i was wiggling around, ace/indy.

the loose truck kit for ventures works well
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: runespliffberg on August 19, 2023, 09:01:01 PM
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I have some ventures in my spare parts box, bought them for nostalgia, but absolutely hate them after years of skating turny-trucks. They definitely have the coolest branding and I want to like them. These trucks do not turn well, and I hate tic-tacking. Would removing the bottom washer, thus pulling the WB in, and running indy conical bushings help with deeper smoother turns? Or is it just a characteristic of these trucks and I have to accept that I will give these away at the park?
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ventures can absolutely be adjusted to turn, significantly, but they are not ace/indy. which to me, is why i like them: ventures turn enough, with noticeably more pop.
but if i was wiggling around, ace/indy.

the loose truck kit for ventures works well


I actually switched from Indy/Ace to Thunders with no bottom washer, and they’re super carvy; turn and grind amazing. The Ventures I have are more like a lean, and don’t turn deep enough for me, yet I love the pop I get on them. I was hoping I could modify them like I did on the thunders to turn deeper, but I think the geo is just a little too different (I run cast plates on all trucks for the added height… just throwing that in here). Idk what it is but I just can’t seem to get Ventures to go deep enough for me. I watch Ben Gore skate them and he seems to turn just fine though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 19, 2023, 09:07:34 PM
if the turning radius of a truck was matched with a skatepark obstacle....indys are a quarter pipe, aces are a bowled corner, Ventures are a flat bank......
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: runespliffberg on August 19, 2023, 09:18:31 PM
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I have some ventures in my spare parts box, bought them for nostalgia, but absolutely hate them after years of skating turny-trucks. They definitely have the coolest branding and I want to like them. These trucks do not turn well, and I hate tic-tacking. Would removing the bottom washer, thus pulling the WB in, and running indy conical bushings help with deeper smoother turns? Or is it just a characteristic of these trucks and I have to accept that I will give these away at the park?
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Definitely try combinations of this and that if you are already at the point where you just don't want to deal with them any other way.

Removing the bottom washer will make them looser to a degree, but the interesting thing with other trucks like Ace is that with the taller bottom bushing, the trucks turn a whole lot more, so you could even try a taller bottom bushing / lower top bushing combo, or add an extra washer underneath and see how that feels too.

When I did it to other brand trucks, I was surprised that they felt way more turny without going straight to wheelbite, but that was just me.  I had cut off a single mm of top bushing, then put the cut off bit under the hanger with the bottom bushing and it made the biggest difference to how the trucks turned and reacted.

A fun thing to do at least.



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I think it’s a mix of fresh trucks and QC with venture. Currently have ventures on my board and they turn great, but they were pretty stiff when new. Waxed where the bushings go and the pivot cups, bombed hills and did slappys and they’re super smooth.

Also had a pair that was loose out of the gate and stayed smooth.

I don’t think the green bushings, or flat washers or any of that is necessary to get them feeling good.
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Yes the wax between all bushings, washers, etc really does "loosen" everything up a lot when I tried it too.

Sometimes that is all that could be needed to go from feeling too stiff to having a whole lot more turn from the exact same trucks and not changing anything out on them.

Adding to my truck madness but I absolutely love it. I never thought about waxing where the bushings go, I usually do a drop of motor oil in the pivot cups to prevent squeaks, but this just makes complete sense to me as the bushings can move more freely. I’ll give it a go, thank you!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on August 20, 2023, 09:20:55 AM
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I have some ventures in my spare parts box, bought them for nostalgia, but absolutely hate them after years of skating turny-trucks. They definitely have the coolest branding and I want to like them. These trucks do not turn well, and I hate tic-tacking. Would removing the bottom washer, thus pulling the WB in, and running indy conical bushings help with deeper smoother turns? Or is it just a characteristic of these trucks and I have to accept that I will give these away at the park?
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Definitely try combinations of this and that if you are already at the point where you just don't want to deal with them any other way.

Removing the bottom washer will make them looser to a degree, but the interesting thing with other trucks like Ace is that with the taller bottom bushing, the trucks turn a whole lot more, so you could even try a taller bottom bushing / lower top bushing combo, or add an extra washer underneath and see how that feels too.

When I did it to other brand trucks, I was surprised that they felt way more turny without going straight to wheelbite, but that was just me.  I had cut off a single mm of top bushing, then put the cut off bit under the hanger with the bottom bushing and it made the biggest difference to how the trucks turned and reacted.

A fun thing to do at least.



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I think it’s a mix of fresh trucks and QC with venture. Currently have ventures on my board and they turn great, but they were pretty stiff when new. Waxed where the bushings go and the pivot cups, bombed hills and did slappys and they’re super smooth.

Also had a pair that was loose out of the gate and stayed smooth.

I don’t think the green bushings, or flat washers or any of that is necessary to get them feeling good.
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Yes the wax between all bushings, washers, etc really does "loosen" everything up a lot when I tried it too.

Sometimes that is all that could be needed to go from feeling too stiff to having a whole lot more turn from the exact same trucks and not changing anything out on them.
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Adding to my truck madness but I absolutely love it. I never thought about waxing where the bushings go, I usually do a drop of motor oil in the pivot cups to prevent squeaks, but this just makes complete sense to me as the bushings can move more freely. I’ll give it a go, thank you!

I’ve also found Ventures to be a little stiff out of the bag, but I’ve been using stock Indy bushings in mine, and they are lively as fuck with no break-in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: AlumarX on August 20, 2023, 01:48:06 PM
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I have some ventures in my spare parts box, bought them for nostalgia, but absolutely hate them after years of skating turny-trucks. They definitely have the coolest branding and I want to like them. These trucks do not turn well, and I hate tic-tacking. Would removing the bottom washer, thus pulling the WB in, and running indy conical bushings help with deeper smoother turns? Or is it just a characteristic of these trucks and I have to accept that I will give these away at the park?
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Definitely try combinations of this and that if you are already at the point where you just don't want to deal with them any other way.

Removing the bottom washer will make them looser to a degree, but the interesting thing with other trucks like Ace is that with the taller bottom bushing, the trucks turn a whole lot more, so you could even try a taller bottom bushing / lower top bushing combo, or add an extra washer underneath and see how that feels too.

When I did it to other brand trucks, I was surprised that they felt way more turny without going straight to wheelbite, but that was just me.  I had cut off a single mm of top bushing, then put the cut off bit under the hanger with the bottom bushing and it made the biggest difference to how the trucks turned and reacted.

A fun thing to do at least.



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I think it’s a mix of fresh trucks and QC with venture. Currently have ventures on my board and they turn great, but they were pretty stiff when new. Waxed where the bushings go and the pivot cups, bombed hills and did slappys and they’re super smooth.

Also had a pair that was loose out of the gate and stayed smooth.

I don’t think the green bushings, or flat washers or any of that is necessary to get them feeling good.
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Yes the wax between all bushings, washers, etc really does "loosen" everything up a lot when I tried it too.

Sometimes that is all that could be needed to go from feeling too stiff to having a whole lot more turn from the exact same trucks and not changing anything out on them.
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Adding to my truck madness but I absolutely love it. I never thought about waxing where the bushings go, I usually do a drop of motor oil in the pivot cups to prevent squeaks, but this just makes complete sense to me as the bushings can move more freely. I’ll give it a go, thank you!
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I’ve also found Ventures to be a little stiff out of the bag, but I’ve been using stock Indy bushings in mine, and they are lively as fuck with no break-in.
Indy bushings are so good even Venture lows turn on them. They actually get too lose, or too bouncy if you go either way though, but mine were broken in a lot already.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: runespliffberg on August 20, 2023, 06:28:54 PM
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I have some ventures in my spare parts box, bought them for nostalgia, but absolutely hate them after years of skating turny-trucks. They definitely have the coolest branding and I want to like them. These trucks do not turn well, and I hate tic-tacking. Would removing the bottom washer, thus pulling the WB in, and running indy conical bushings help with deeper smoother turns? Or is it just a characteristic of these trucks and I have to accept that I will give these away at the park?
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Definitely try combinations of this and that if you are already at the point where you just don't want to deal with them any other way.

Removing the bottom washer will make them looser to a degree, but the interesting thing with other trucks like Ace is that with the taller bottom bushing, the trucks turn a whole lot more, so you could even try a taller bottom bushing / lower top bushing combo, or add an extra washer underneath and see how that feels too.

When I did it to other brand trucks, I was surprised that they felt way more turny without going straight to wheelbite, but that was just me.  I had cut off a single mm of top bushing, then put the cut off bit under the hanger with the bottom bushing and it made the biggest difference to how the trucks turned and reacted.

A fun thing to do at least.



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I think it’s a mix of fresh trucks and QC with venture. Currently have ventures on my board and they turn great, but they were pretty stiff when new. Waxed where the bushings go and the pivot cups, bombed hills and did slappys and they’re super smooth.

Also had a pair that was loose out of the gate and stayed smooth.

I don’t think the green bushings, or flat washers or any of that is necessary to get them feeling good.
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Yes the wax between all bushings, washers, etc really does "loosen" everything up a lot when I tried it too.

Sometimes that is all that could be needed to go from feeling too stiff to having a whole lot more turn from the exact same trucks and not changing anything out on them.
[close]

Adding to my truck madness but I absolutely love it. I never thought about waxing where the bushings go, I usually do a drop of motor oil in the pivot cups to prevent squeaks, but this just makes complete sense to me as the bushings can move more freely. I’ll give it a go, thank you!
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I’ve also found Ventures to be a little stiff out of the bag, but I’ve been using stock Indy bushings in mine, and they are lively as fuck with no break-in.
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Indy bushings are so good even Venture lows turn on them. They actually get too lose, or too bouncy if you go either way though, but mine were broken in a lot already.


Just ordered the green Riptide 90a conical bushings. I’ll report back after next weekend, once I get a few sessions in on them in the 5.6’s (cast). Planning to run no bottom washer like I do in my thunders, let’s see if that helps them get surfy/deeper turns.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on August 20, 2023, 08:50:37 PM
‘surfy’.

gross.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on August 22, 2023, 08:32:55 AM
Curious to try Ventures after Ace and Indy. Been skating tighter setups lately. I realize I'll probably need a deck with a shorter wheelbase, but the bushings/turning also raise some questions. Venture experts: how would Indy bushings work on Venture Hi's? The Lo's are not an option for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on August 22, 2023, 09:06:14 AM
They fit fine if you like the color orange for bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 22, 2023, 10:04:58 AM
Venture stock bushings aren't bad and are 90D. Try em stock for a while, then maybe try the 88A Supercush
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: AlumarX on August 22, 2023, 10:21:48 AM
Stock bushings are good if you ride a tighter truck, indy bushings are for loose rydaz that want some turn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 22, 2023, 01:09:20 PM
They're the same durometer and height and are not any different.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chaosisme on August 22, 2023, 02:38:14 PM
Other than Brandon Westgate and Aleka Lang, which street skaters ride Venture lows these days?

I assume that a bunch of the Magenta and Maybe Evisen/Lenz skaters ride them.

Don’t know why I need to know, just bored and curious
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mdspb on August 22, 2023, 03:05:08 PM
^ Nick Matthews
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 22, 2023, 03:51:16 PM
Curious to try Ventures after Ace and Indy. Been skating tighter setups lately. I realize I'll probably need a deck with a shorter wheelbase, but the bushings/turning also raise some questions. Venture experts: how would Indy bushings work on Venture Hi's? The Lo's are not an option for me.

They fit fine if you like the color orange for bushings.


Indy bushings work fine in Venture trucks, and you have white 78 duro, red 88 (but feel harder) orange 90 that feel softer, blue 92, black 94 and yellow 96 duro, so all options in lots of colours.

It is funny that some trucks you just have the picture of which colour bushings work best in them, or that some bushings just don't look right in some trucks, but yeah they still do the job and work fine.

The other thing is the Indy bushings are everywhere, so usually really easy to get hold of and they don't seem to blow out the way some other bushings do.

That is not to say that any other bushings aren't going to do the job either, but Supercush seem a lot harder to get now and most people want cylinder bushings in Venture trucks, rather than the Thunder bushings, which also work well, but tend to blow out a little more often.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chaosisme on August 22, 2023, 04:30:07 PM
^ Nick Matthews

Totally forgot! Good one :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 22, 2023, 04:57:29 PM
Other than Brandon Westgate and Aleka Lang, which street skaters ride Venture lows these days?

I assume that a bunch of the Magenta and Maybe Evisen/Lenz skaters ride them.

Don’t know why I need to know, just bored and curious

Westgate is on highs in all recent IG clips.

Yuto and the other Japanese dude on Primitive ride lows
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on August 22, 2023, 05:08:42 PM
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Other than Brandon Westgate and Aleka Lang, which street skaters ride Venture lows these days?

I assume that a bunch of the Magenta and Maybe Evisen/Lenz skaters ride them.

Don’t know why I need to know, just bored and curious
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Westgate is on highs in all recent IG clips.

Yuto and the other Japanese dude on Primitive ride lows

Westgate was on V-lights or V-hollows ( hi ) when I saw him on Sunday. New Balance had a meet and greet at my local DIY.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on August 22, 2023, 05:20:00 PM
could have sworn lang was on highs with cranked KPs, but i've been wrong before
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chaosisme on August 22, 2023, 05:49:25 PM
could have sworn lang was on highs with cranked KPs, but i've been wrong before

You might be right, just assume because everything about his setup is compact haha
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chaosisme on August 22, 2023, 05:51:28 PM
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Other than Brandon Westgate and Aleka Lang, which street skaters ride Venture lows these days?

I assume that a bunch of the Magenta and Maybe Evisen/Lenz skaters ride them.

Don’t know why I need to know, just bored and curious
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Westgate is on highs in all recent IG clips.

Yuto and the other Japanese dude on Primitive ride lows

I had no idea BW wasn’t on lows now, I guess there are even less people than I thought! 🤣
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on August 22, 2023, 05:55:08 PM
Other than Brandon Westgate and Aleka Lang, which street skaters ride Venture lows these days?

I assume that a bunch of the Magenta and Maybe Evisen/Lenz skaters ride them.

Don’t know why I need to know, just bored and curious
PJ Ladd
Felipe Gustavo
Gino
Puleo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on August 22, 2023, 06:57:30 PM
They're the same durometer and height and are not any different.

And yet, they make the trucks feel very different.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stanley Spadowski on August 22, 2023, 09:15:26 PM
Unlike Thunder, Venture does not tell the height of the trucks on their site. Anyone happen to know the heights of Ventures? Lo, Hi, forged, and cast?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 22, 2023, 09:24:21 PM
Unlike Thunder, Venture does not tell the height of the trucks on their site. Anyone happen to know the heights of Ventures? Lo, Hi, forged, and cast?


I think people had added all that info back somewhere in this thread, but from memory, info as follows:


Venture standards / hi with cast baseplate 53.5 mm

Venture standard / hi with forged baseplate 52 mm

Venture low on cast baseplate 48 mm


Cast plate / forged plate take off 1.5 mm



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 22, 2023, 09:26:10 PM
Always on the grind. what’s up shredders, thinking about copping some venture 5.6 today, the real question is should I go with good ol polished or should I go with some v-lights or v-hollows? I usually run 144 Indy but fuck it I wanna switch it up. I’m probably going to hate my life fucking with the wheelbase and pop feel of switching truck brands but fuck it I wanna support dlx and my last few thunders have been absolute trash. I skate 8.25 quasi or fa/hockey squarish shapes 14-14.25wb right now & I’m use to the indy feel. Any suggestions get at me, shalom.


@sadnocomply could change the header / remove the 2020 or add more info to the first post as per some other truck threads, but it is not that big a deal.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stanley Spadowski on August 22, 2023, 09:32:38 PM
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Unlike Thunder, Venture does not tell the height of the trucks on their site. Anyone happen to know the heights of Ventures? Lo, Hi, forged, and cast?
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I think people had added all that info back somewhere in this thread, but from memory, info as follows:


Venture standards / hi with cast baseplate 53.5 mm

Venture standard / hi with forged baseplate 52 mm

Venture low on cast baseplate 48 mm


Cast plate / forged plate take off 1.5 mm

Thanks, have a gnar.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 22, 2023, 10:19:22 PM
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Other than Brandon Westgate and Aleka Lang, which street skaters ride Venture lows these days?

I assume that a bunch of the Magenta and Maybe Evisen/Lenz skaters ride them.

Don’t know why I need to know, just bored and curious
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PJ Ladd
Felipe Gustavo
Gino
Puleo

Don't Gino ride Thunders now. I'm pretty sure he and Guy both got trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 22, 2023, 10:49:24 PM
Unlike Thunder, Venture does not tell the height of the trucks on their site. Anyone happen to know the heights of Ventures? Lo, Hi, forged, and cast?

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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on August 23, 2023, 01:11:19 AM
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Other than Brandon Westgate and Aleka Lang, which street skaters ride Venture lows these days?

I assume that a bunch of the Magenta and Maybe Evisen/Lenz skaters ride them.

Don’t know why I need to know, just bored and curious
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PJ Ladd
Felipe Gustavo
Gino
Puleo
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Don't Gino ride Thunders now. I'm pretty sure he and Guy both got trucks.

Felipe Gustavo rides Hi now, because of kingpin drag

edit: that's P rod, but Felipe Gustavo also rides hi
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on August 23, 2023, 01:43:55 AM
Skatedeluxe says the Hi V-Hollows are 53.5mm high, is this correct?

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-v-hollow-lights-all-polished-high-5-6-truck-silver-8-25_p131621
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on August 23, 2023, 02:10:13 AM
Stock bushings are good if you ride a tighter truck, indy bushings are for loose rydaz that want some turn.
^ this
Went to Venture from Ace and change didn't worked for me. Back on Aces
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 23, 2023, 02:18:44 AM
Skatedeluxe says the Hi V-Hollows are 53.5mm high, is this correct?

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-v-hollow-lights-all-polished-high-5-6-truck-silver-8-25_p131621

Dimensions in my sig are from Venture when I DM'd them like a man
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on August 23, 2023, 02:25:27 AM
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Skatedeluxe says the Hi V-Hollows are 53.5mm high, is this correct?

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-v-hollow-lights-all-polished-high-5-6-truck-silver-8-25_p131621
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Dimensions in my sig are from Venture when I DM'd them like a man

Thanks! Respect.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on August 23, 2023, 04:05:38 AM
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Skatedeluxe says the Hi V-Hollows are 53.5mm high, is this correct?

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-v-hollow-lights-all-polished-high-5-6-truck-silver-8-25_p131621
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Dimensions in my sig are from Venture when I DM'd them like a man
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Thanks! Respect.
Gnarred for manhood
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on August 23, 2023, 05:27:34 AM
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Skatedeluxe says the Hi V-Hollows are 53.5mm high, is this correct?

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-v-hollow-lights-all-polished-high-5-6-truck-silver-8-25_p131621
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Dimensions in my sig are from Venture when I DM'd them like a man
Still super sus that the difference between standard and forged would be different for lo and hi. It's the same baseplate...
Don't fully trust these numbers, but I'm sure they're somewhere close enough?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on August 23, 2023, 06:22:48 AM
Still super sus that the difference between standard and forged would be different for lo and hi. It's the same baseplate...
Don't fully trust these numbers, but I'm sure they're somewhere close enough?

I've thought the same thing every time I see the sig
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on August 23, 2023, 06:23:55 AM
Maybe their Insta guy just threw the numbers out of his arse just for fun and pisstaking.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on August 23, 2023, 06:34:37 AM
isn't the general consensus on forged plates is that it usually drops the height about ~1.5 mm?

just do that for any truck brand and you'll have a general idea of what height the trucks will be. we're talking about a 3% decrease in height. the numbers being off slightly between Lo and Hi is odd, but who else DM'd them like a man.

keep in mind that the forged plates shift the wb longer compared to cast plates
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 23, 2023, 08:34:07 AM
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Other than Brandon Westgate and Aleka Lang, which street skaters ride Venture lows these days?

I assume that a bunch of the Magenta and Maybe Evisen/Lenz skaters ride them.

Don’t know why I need to know, just bored and curious
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PJ Ladd
Felipe Gustavo
Gino
Puleo
[close]

Don't Gino ride Thunders now. I'm pretty sure he and Guy both got trucks.
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Felipe Gustavo rides Hi now, because of kingpin drag

edit: that's P rod, but Felipe Gustavo also rides hi

PJ rides lows with risers.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on August 23, 2023, 09:44:26 AM
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Other than Brandon Westgate and Aleka Lang, which street skaters ride Venture lows these days?

I assume that a bunch of the Magenta and Maybe Evisen/Lenz skaters ride them.

Don’t know why I need to know, just bored and curious
[close]
PJ Ladd
Felipe Gustavo
Gino
Puleo
[close]

Don't Gino ride Thunders now. I'm pretty sure he and Guy both got trucks.
[close]

Felipe Gustavo rides Hi now, because of kingpin drag

edit: that's P rod, but Felipe Gustavo also rides hi
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PJ rides lows with risers.

cool, he used to skate low without risers, seems he's been skate in riser recent days.
and he skates 7.9 board

5 years ago no risers / 3yrs ago risers / 3yrs ago no risers / 1yr ago~recent no risers
(https://i.ibb.co/nCFd0rM/PJ.png) (https://ibb.co/nCFd0rM)(https://i.ibb.co/tDrrZTZ/PJJ.png) (https://ibb.co/tDrrZTZ)(https://i.ibb.co/PjGgKPB/PJJJ.png) (https://ibb.co/PjGgKPB)(https://i.ibb.co/qrd5bKh/PJJJJ.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qrd5bKh)

2020 rides both
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjB2oiZ6WFQ

maybe that's his street setup? i'm comfused.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 23, 2023, 10:19:44 AM
I just go on his IG and you can see them in most videos going back a few years, but I don't inspect every single post. I was curious so I did screen record and analyze a few videos and they all had em. Maybe they're forged with risers? I dunno, but it is interesting. It gets a low truck below V-light height without pushing the wheels out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on August 23, 2023, 12:25:43 PM
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Other than Brandon Westgate and Aleka Lang, which street skaters ride Venture lows these days?

I assume that a bunch of the Magenta and Maybe Evisen/Lenz skaters ride them.

Don’t know why I need to know, just bored and curious
[close]
PJ Ladd
Felipe Gustavo
Gino
Puleo
[close]

Don't Gino ride Thunders now. I'm pretty sure he and Guy both got trucks.
[close]

Felipe Gustavo rides Hi now, because of kingpin drag

edit: that's P rod, but Felipe Gustavo also rides hi
[close]

PJ rides lows with risers.
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cool, he used to skate low without risers, seems he's been skate in riser recent days.
and he skates 7.9 board

5 years ago no risers / 3yrs ago risers / 3yrs ago no risers / 1yr ago~recent no risers
(https://i.ibb.co/nCFd0rM/PJ.png) (https://ibb.co/nCFd0rM)(https://i.ibb.co/tDrrZTZ/PJJ.png) (https://ibb.co/tDrrZTZ)(https://i.ibb.co/PjGgKPB/PJJJ.png) (https://ibb.co/PjGgKPB)(https://i.ibb.co/qrd5bKh/PJJJJ.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qrd5bKh)

2020 rides both
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjB2oiZ6WFQ

maybe that's his street setup? i'm comfused.


i am very interested and thankful for these geeky who rides what posts.

gustavo and westgate in hi’s? that’s wild to me.

where is this gino on thunders? he definitely had a few photos on thunders way back when, and some ads, but i don’t remember seeing him on anything but ventures, save for one clip with some indy’s and air forces, way back before 2000.
looked like  maybe Gino was on forged hi’s for a moment….

my lo’s are problematic. turn is fine, pop is great (the best really), it’s just needed to skate 50s that gets tiresome.
or, more accurately: i love skating lo’s and 50s, but the ground where i live, is rough.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 23, 2023, 05:29:54 PM
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Skatedeluxe says the Hi V-Hollows are 53.5mm high, is this correct?

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-v-hollow-lights-all-polished-high-5-6-truck-silver-8-25_p131621
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Dimensions in my sig are from Venture when I DM'd them like a man
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Still super sus that the difference between standard and forged would be different for lo and hi. It's the same baseplate...
Don't fully trust these numbers, but I'm sure they're somewhere close enough?


Get out the calipers and see what the baseplates are...

Forged baseplates on this new set are little under 4 mm tall.

Cast baseplates on this new set are a bit over 5 mm tall.


That is with non digital calipers though, so make of that what you will, but the almost 1.5 mm difference is about right.


Also it is very interesting that they give the measurements of the truck heights in such a way, in inches which then doesn't convert cleanly to mm, but that is not a worry to me.

Taller than Thunder, lower than Indy, almost the same as Ace in overall height.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 23, 2023, 05:32:10 PM
With my calipers my forged Venture baseplates are 4.28mm and cast are  5.66MM. I measured all 4 corners and in the middle of the sides and averaged since the thickness differs slightly on cast.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 23, 2023, 05:41:26 PM
With my calipers my forged Venture baseplates are 3.66MM and cast are 5.09. I measured all 4 corners and in the middle of the sides and averaged since the thickness differs slightly on cast.


My hand to eye classic cheapies don't have that sort of exact measurement, but it is good to see that they line up fairly well.

I also checked Indy and Thunder, Indy looking like they were a mm taller in both, which was interesting.  I know Ace has thinner baseplates overall too.

Guessing you might have measurements for some of those others you have skated as well - the Indy or Thunder anyway?



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 23, 2023, 06:05:24 PM
I did not zero them correctly. I re-measured.

Now these are plates from a parts bin the forged plates were from some old Titanium Lights and the cast plate I have is from a standard a few years ago.

The correct measurements are:

Forged: 4.28
Cast: 5.66

Now, this is just plate thickness, so we are assuming every other part of the plate is the same.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: art hellman on August 24, 2023, 07:58:31 AM
Does anyone have any extra purple-clear Venture bushings that they'd be willing to send my way?  Or trade for something?  PM me and we can dish. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: VCR on August 24, 2023, 10:26:22 AM
 https://tgmskateboards.com/venture-skateboard-trucks-v-cast-hollows-skate-jawn-5-6-8-25-pair/ (https://tgmskateboards.com/venture-skateboard-trucks-v-cast-hollows-skate-jawn-5-6-8-25-pair/)

The new Skate Jawn v-cast!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on August 24, 2023, 10:37:03 AM
https://tgmskateboards.com/venture-skateboard-trucks-v-cast-hollows-skate-jawn-5-6-8-25-pair/ (https://tgmskateboards.com/venture-skateboard-trucks-v-cast-hollows-skate-jawn-5-6-8-25-pair/)

The new Skate Jawn v-cast!

ooo that's nice

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-ae3w3/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/94795/191387/3035105493-1__64582.1692647200.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 24, 2023, 11:18:18 AM
It’s nit picky…but I wish they made T’s of some of the collabs….like one a season?  Man….one a year even…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mdspb on August 24, 2023, 12:55:08 PM
There is a tee of that Skate Jawn collab…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on August 24, 2023, 03:24:33 PM
would citri strip or acetone work to make that black a polished silver baseplate?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: venture5.8 on August 24, 2023, 06:58:25 PM
https://tgmskateboards.com/venture-skateboard-trucks-v-cast-hollows-skate-jawn-5-6-8-25-pair/ (https://tgmskateboards.com/venture-skateboard-trucks-v-cast-hollows-skate-jawn-5-6-8-25-pair/)

The new Skate Jawn v-cast!

They also made in 5.8!! I feel like 5.8s have been a little tough to come by lately
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 24, 2023, 08:39:06 PM
There is a tee of that Skate Jawn collab…

Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on August 25, 2023, 09:58:35 AM
would citri strip or acetone work to make that black a polished silver baseplate?

Only if it’s painted. If it’s powder coated (which seems to be the standard these days), you’ll need to sand it, blast it, or bake it off.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on August 25, 2023, 02:11:27 PM
B-ball shorts

https://www.instagram.com/p/CwS7JKYxm7w/?igshid=MWZjMTM2ODFkZg==
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on August 25, 2023, 05:06:57 PM
B-ball shorts

https://www.instagram.com/p/CwS7JKYxm7w/?igshid=MWZjMTM2ODFkZg==


hot
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 27, 2023, 07:48:31 AM
I would really like to see PJ ride a set of 6.1s with some cut bushings and some big ass 60mm wheels.

I'm curious AF to see what happens. I bet it would have little effect other than a slight style and go to trick shift.

I wanna see PJ do a super slow flipping big flipper and roll away a G but squirrelly.

I don't wanna see it. I need to see it. So I can live through him I guess.

PJ is my official adopted son starting now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 27, 2023, 08:00:49 AM
I think it's more likely to see PJ wear a yarmulke....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manuduncan on August 27, 2023, 04:57:38 PM
What bushings do you guys run in the ventures once the stock ones get blown out or cracked?

I ordered the loose conversion ones and they were way too turny I couldn’t control them so I kept the bottom bushing but put an Indy top bushing in and it was a lot better

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on August 27, 2023, 05:40:59 PM
I would really like to see PJ ride a set of 6.1s with some cut bushings and some big ass 60mm wheels.

I'm curious AF to see what happens. I bet it would have little effect other than a slight style and go to trick shift.

I wanna see PJ do a super slow flipping big flipper and roll away a G but squirrelly.

I don't wanna see it. I need to see it. So I can live through him I guess.

PJ is my official adopted son starting now


maybe you could get eli to do this


i’m not sure there are advantages to going past 8” wide trucks.
now i do wish i could actually skate around, freely with the big wheels, so then i guess you would need to go wider for proportions….
 oh i dunno
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 27, 2023, 09:13:16 PM
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I would really like to see PJ ride a set of 6.1s with some cut bushings and some big ass 60mm wheels.

I'm curious AF to see what happens. I bet it would have little effect other than a slight style and go to trick shift.

I wanna see PJ do a super slow flipping big flipper and roll away a G but squirrelly.

I don't wanna see it. I need to see it. So I can live through him I guess.

PJ is my official adopted son starting now
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maybe you could get eli to do this


i’m not sure there are advantages to going past 8” wide trucks.
now i do wish i could actually skate around, freely with the big wheels, so then i guess you would need to go wider for proportions….
 oh i dunno

Ijust wanna see what still works and what doesn't.

I already know that Eli can skate anything you hand him. Including a dance hall bird.
Suplex late triple v flip a dancer. Catch her and dip her crazy low. Switch stance I have seen that guy since he was like young young young
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on August 27, 2023, 09:29:25 PM
What bushings do you guys run in the ventures once the stock ones get blown out or cracked?

I ordered the loose conversion ones and they were way too turny I couldn’t control them so I kept the bottom bushing but put an Indy top bushing in and it was a lot better


The most common brand was Deluxe Supercush for a long time, but they don't seem like they are readily available any more, for most people in most areas.

Indy cylinder bushings seem to be the other most common one I see / have people buy to put in their Ventures, as they are about the same shape, readily available and come in the various duro options that means you can get pretty much whatever you like.

Conical bushings do work too, although sometimes they don't look like they sit so well on the Venture baseplate, such as Bones bushings, along with a few others people have run, including Doh Dohs, or any other cylinder bushing sets.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on August 28, 2023, 07:38:06 AM
i've got a standard pair of 6.1's on a 9" eagle and madness is making me curious about putting titaniums on it, but i cant find them anywhere in that size.  i found v-hollows but i'm skeptical they would make any difference.   anyone have input?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on August 28, 2023, 07:59:33 AM
i've got a standard pair of 6.1's on a 9" eagle and madness is making me curious about putting titaniums on it, but i cant find them anywhere in that size.  i found v-hollows but i'm skeptical they would make any difference.   anyone have input?


for me, hollow/light/exxxtra lite, etc, is only useful to me, if it’s a size i shouldn’t really be riding.
i understand that my opinion is not helpful in this situation. i’ve tried to really combo some
stuff together to get larger setups to ‘work’, and finally decided to stop fighting it, and size down to wherever i didn’t need to carefully consider sizes and components. for me, it’s embarrassingly small. my setup looks dumb. and larger boards are better for some things (if i was skating fast, i’d want larger than i ride now for certain).
i really liked 8.75 trucks, well, ace classic 55s, indy 159s, and thunder 151s, i liked those all more than the next size down in those brands. i stopped messing with big boards before 6.1s, but those have a geometry, from what i hear, might be even more to my liking,
compared to other ventures.
anyways, i’m in the weeds here, and off track. in my experience, a big board is just a big board, good for some stuff, shit for others. it’s still big, even if it’s a smidge lighter.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on August 28, 2023, 08:26:05 AM
i've got a standard pair of 6.1's on a 9" eagle and madness is making me curious about putting titaniums on it, but i cant find them anywhere in that size.  i found v-hollows but i'm skeptical they would make any difference.   anyone have input?

Think this is just a waste of your time man, the difference is small.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on August 28, 2023, 08:33:13 AM
thanks bros.  i'm 6'3, 200lbs with a size 13 foot so realistically i should be able to handle a little extra weight
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 28, 2023, 11:08:13 AM
Yeah, I’d guess 6.1 ventures are still a fair amount lighter than the Indy/ace counterparts….regular raws should still be a manageable set up.  I’ve had bigger set ups with Indy’s or Aces and with big wheels and rails, the set up seems like a bit too much….cruiser territory…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on August 28, 2023, 11:27:15 AM
ventures are my favorite trucks. full stop.

i can find something i like, about every truck i’ve tried.
i’ve never skated my best on venture hi’s. hoping to figure that out, sooner than later.
when everyone sized up, out of the 5.0 lo’s, a fair amount of folks in my area went to indy 139s. the stage 10 139s are easier for me to skate, than 5.2 hi’s. as trucks and boards get wider still, i think i appreciate the reduction in effective wb, that other trucks have, compared to venture.

good point in that ventures are already light.


i’m a lot shorter, a little lighter, and a size 10-10.5 shoe. a 7.75-8 board is preferred, except for the look.
all to say, me being a judgey jerk, if the board feels too heavy, the shit is too big. i’m sure i’m repeating myself.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: AlumarX on August 28, 2023, 01:13:18 PM
Anybody got a pair of forged baseplates they're willing to send my way? Name the price
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: runespliffberg on August 28, 2023, 04:03:00 PM
Alright, quick update after skating the 5.6 standards again (coming from thunder), green Riptide conical bushings, no bottom washer. I weigh about 150lbs, and had the kingpin nut flush for the first session, but it was wheelbite city on 52mm conical fulls. Not to mention unstable setting up for flip tricks (probably because of the conical bushings). I usually never do this, but I cranked the kingpin nut down a thread and a half and now they’re perfect. They turn really well, I love the pop feel and grind feel. The wider WB is still throwing me off with a lot of my tricks, but I really dig the feel of these trucks, and I’m hoping I can adjust to them after another few sessions. That’s it, that’s the update.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 28, 2023, 07:21:25 PM
Anybody got a pair of forged baseplates they're willing to send my way?

Same here, noticed the hardware mounting holes on my forged and cast baseplates are getting really worn down and oval shaped from the recent street sessions. Been on the look out for Ventures on clearance, but only 5.0 / 5.2 which seems like a waste if I only cannibalize the baseplate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on August 28, 2023, 07:27:32 PM
thanks bros.  i'm 6'3, 200lbs with a size 13 foot so realistically i should be able to handle a little extra weight

I've heard bad things about ti axles. Ill definitely never ride hollows again if I can help it.
When I'm feeling strong I like to stomp my tricks like I got big ass Clydesdale hooves with frickin bear traps nailed to the bottom and a 600 pound bird.
Do a fakie v zeta g style. Stepping on shit and making noise. Stomp a one footer pointed at a tourist who won't get out the way.
Speed check a passerby like it's 1995.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: juniormint on August 28, 2023, 08:20:58 PM
i've got a standard pair of 6.1's on a 9" eagle and madness is making me curious about putting titaniums on it, but i cant find them anywhere in that size.  i found v-hollows but i'm skeptical they would make any difference.   anyone have input?

Haven't tried the titaniums, but when I was skating 6.1s I used both the standard and v-hollow. Much prefer the standard cast, for some reason I cant get into the forged baseplate, when I see where the rear bolt holes are so close to the edge of the baseplate freaks me out bit, not because of the structural reason, it just seems like an odd design. Its probably the turn though, and maybe just the bushings just need a change. Whenever I jump on my dane 1 cruiser with my axled cast 6.1s I am always pleasantly surprised how loose it is, probably due to the nicely broken in blue indy bushings on there. But anyway, I am back on 151s, which are I think my forever truck at this point...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DeadSquidMask on August 29, 2023, 06:55:15 AM
ventures are my favorite trucks. full stop.

i can find something i like, about every truck i’ve tried.
i’ve never skated my best on venture hi’s. hoping to figure that out, sooner than later.
when everyone sized up, out of the 5.0 lo’s, a fair amount of folks in my area went to indy 139s. the stage 10 139s are easier for me to skate, than 5.2 hi’s. as trucks and boards get wider still, i think i appreciate the reduction in effective wb, that other trucks have, compared to venture.

good point in that ventures are already light.


i’m a lot shorter, a little lighter, and a size 10-10.5 shoe. a 7.75-8 board is preferred, except for the look.
all to say, me being a judgey jerk, if the board feels too heavy, the shit is too big. i’m sure i’m repeating myself.

I really identify with this statement you made here. I fall in love with almost any gear I run with.

That being said, some gear feels more “right” quicker than others. And I will say, my recent return to ventures has been a really fun experiment. Immediately they just felt like they provided the “something” I was looking for, but couldn’t articulate.

Readjusting for flip tricks has been interesting. I was puzzled to find my flip tricks worked better the wider I spread my stance. It was really weird to me.

I ended up watching Prod videos (similar board dims and trucks) and noticed his front foot position for flip tricks was very high, towards the nose, in the pocket near bolts. Almost where I’d been putting my foot. I just straight copied his stance and voila! Flips and Ollie-in slides and grinds on ledges have been way more consistent.

Is this a “me” thing, or has anyone talked about it here already and I missed it?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on August 29, 2023, 07:00:23 AM
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ventures are my favorite trucks. full stop.

i can find something i like, about every truck i’ve tried.
i’ve never skated my best on venture hi’s. hoping to figure that out, sooner than later.
when everyone sized up, out of the 5.0 lo’s, a fair amount of folks in my area went to indy 139s. the stage 10 139s are easier for me to skate, than 5.2 hi’s. as trucks and boards get wider still, i think i appreciate the reduction in effective wb, that other trucks have, compared to venture.

good point in that ventures are already light.


i’m a lot shorter, a little lighter, and a size 10-10.5 shoe. a 7.75-8 board is preferred, except for the look.
all to say, me being a judgey jerk, if the board feels too heavy, the shit is too big. i’m sure i’m repeating myself.
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I really identify with this statement you made here. I fall in love with almost any gear I run with.

That being said, some gear feels more “right” quicker than others. And I will say, my recent return to ventures has been a really fun experiment. Immediately they just felt like they provided the “something” I was looking for, but couldn’t articulate.

Readjusting for flip tricks has been interesting. I was puzzled to find my flip tricks worked better the wider I spread my stance. It was really weird to me.

I ended up watching Prod videos (similar board dims and trucks) and noticed his front foot position for flip tricks was very high, towards the nose, in the pocket near bolts. Almost where I’d been putting my foot. I just straight copied his stance and voila! Flips and Ollie-in slides and grinds on ledges have been way more consistent.

Is this a “me” thing, or has anyone talked about it here already and I missed it?

Shane O'neil foot position is fun to watch too..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on August 29, 2023, 07:27:42 AM
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ventures are my favorite trucks. full stop.

i can find something i like, about every truck i’ve tried.
i’ve never skated my best on venture hi’s. hoping to figure that out, sooner than later.
when everyone sized up, out of the 5.0 lo’s, a fair amount of folks in my area went to indy 139s. the stage 10 139s are easier for me to skate, than 5.2 hi’s. as trucks and boards get wider still, i think i appreciate the reduction in effective wb, that other trucks have, compared to venture.

good point in that ventures are already light.


i’m a lot shorter, a little lighter, and a size 10-10.5 shoe. a 7.75-8 board is preferred, except for the look.
all to say, me being a judgey jerk, if the board feels too heavy, the shit is too big. i’m sure i’m repeating myself.
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I really identify with this statement you made here. I fall in love with almost any gear I run with.

That being said, some gear feels more “right” quicker than others. And I will say, my recent return to ventures has been a really fun experiment. Immediately they just felt like they provided the “something” I was looking for, but couldn’t articulate.

Readjusting for flip tricks has been interesting. I was puzzled to find my flip tricks worked better the wider I spread my stance. It was really weird to me.

I ended up watching Prod videos (similar board dims and trucks) and noticed his front foot position for flip tricks was very high, towards the nose, in the pocket near bolts. Almost where I’d been putting my foot. I just straight copied his stance and voila! Flips and Ollie-in slides and grinds on ledges have been way more consistent.

Is this a “me” thing, or has anyone talked about it here already and I missed it?
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Shane O'neil foot position is fun to watch too..

i tried the board i think shane rides, with the same trucks and wheels, and couldn’t do it. years of balancing my popping foot, off of the tip of the tail/nose, due to both ventures and liking short boards, makes his foot positioning of deep in the pocket (i mean on switch stuff that dudes foot is damn near the bolts) too odd for me. seemed like a lot of advantages if i could figure it out. couldn’t.

the foot positioning is really interesting to watch, and attempt to emulate. i can’t keep track of the details on my head, so it’s just a vague notion by the time i get onto my board. for ventures i absolutely have my popping foot, as close to the tip of the nose/tail as possible.
i’d like to get my front further down/back, on kickflips, for height, but i just can’t do it.

ventures pop the best for me, well the lo’s and the 5.8s. i struggle with 5.2 hi’s, liked 5.0 hi’s except they look insane. can’t figure out why i just don’t like the 5.2 hi’s. i think i just need to skate them and who cares about the results. my mind is a wasteland
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on August 29, 2023, 09:45:05 AM
A lot of the footage you see of Shane he’s wearing a hat…..it’s not to keep those whips of golden hair out of his eyes but it’s to hide his pointy ears…..he is an elf….and probably uses magic.  Him, Sean Malto….young Tyler Bledstoe… all Elves….

I haven’t noticed much difference in my 5.2 vs 5.6’s.  I’ve never skated the lows but I’m liking the pop, turn, flip ability and weight of them. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on August 29, 2023, 04:31:44 PM
A lot of the footage you see of Shane he’s wearing a hat…..it’s not to keep those whips of golden hair out of his eyes but it’s to hide his pointy ears…..he is an elf….and probably uses magic.  Him, Sean Malto….young Tyler Bledstoe… all Elves….

I haven’t noticed much difference in my 5.2 vs 5.6’s.  I’ve never skated the lows but I’m liking the pop, turn, flip ability and weight of them.

bledsoe is an elf. also possibly has some truck madness, i’ve seen footage of him skating thunder and indy. he and lucas seemed to rotate a bit there.

i haven’t gotten around to buying 5.6s. i should have tried the hi’s, with a forged plate to get lower, but i gave all of my forged stuff away. i feel like a goofus, holding gear, and then inevitably i want to try something a few years later. i’m really not sure why i liked the pop so much on 5.8s, and not on 5.2s. that doesn’t make sense. it’s not the first time it’s happened to me: don’t like indy 149s, really like indy 159s, don’t like ace classic 44s, reeeeeally like ace classic 55s. i should probably be locked up.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: OhioGuy on August 30, 2023, 12:17:18 PM
Madness is getting me. Venture is the only major brand I haven’t tried. I mainly want them cause the look, they’re the best looking trucks on the market IMHO. Not worried about the turning. I’m 248lbs, even Krux turn fine for me once dialed to my liking. Also don’t expect them to replace my Indys. I just want to try ‘em 🤤
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on August 30, 2023, 02:57:03 PM
Madness is getting me. Venture is the only major brand I haven’t tried. I mainly want them cause the look, they’re the best looking trucks on the market IMHO. Not worried about the turning. I’m 248lbs, even Krux turn fine for me once dialed to my liking. Also don’t expect them to replace my Indys. I just want to try ‘em 🤤

JOIN US
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on August 30, 2023, 03:03:33 PM
personally i never looked back
if they ever bless us with wider lows its over
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 30, 2023, 03:46:27 PM
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A lot of the footage you see of Shane he’s wearing a hat…..it’s not to keep those whips of golden hair out of his eyes but it’s to hide his pointy ears…..he is an elf….and probably uses magic.  Him, Sean Malto….young Tyler Bledstoe… all Elves….

I haven’t noticed much difference in my 5.2 vs 5.6’s.  I’ve never skated the lows but I’m liking the pop, turn, flip ability and weight of them.
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bledsoe is an elf. also possibly has some truck madness, i’ve seen footage of him skating thunder and indy. he and lucas seemed to rotate a bit there.

i haven’t gotten around to buying 5.6s. i should have tried the hi’s, with a forged plate to get lower, but i gave all of my forged stuff away. i feel like a goofus, holding gear, and then inevitably i want to try something a few years later. i’m really not sure why i liked the pop so much on 5.8s, and not on 5.2s. that doesn’t make sense. it’s not the first time it’s happened to me: don’t like indy 149s, really like indy 159s, don’t like ace classic 44s, reeeeeally like ace classic 55s. i should probably be locked up.

I asked Bledsoe about that and he answered that he was on Thunder for so long that he wanted to just try other things. Similar to how he said in an interview that he always wanted to skate Half Cabs so he's doing that on his own volition and Vans sends him boxes. He said he's back on Thunder lights and they're his favorite, but he often reposts old footage and a lot of his Land part was on the experiments.

I saw Lucas was removed from the Thunder page, which is a crime on their part. He had a truck recently too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on August 30, 2023, 04:57:32 PM
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A lot of the footage you see of Shane he’s wearing a hat…..it’s not to keep those whips of golden hair out of his eyes but it’s to hide his pointy ears…..he is an elf….and probably uses magic.  Him, Sean Malto….young Tyler Bledstoe… all Elves….

I haven’t noticed much difference in my 5.2 vs 5.6’s.  I’ve never skated the lows but I’m liking the pop, turn, flip ability and weight of them.
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bledsoe is an elf. also possibly has some truck madness, i’ve seen footage of him skating thunder and indy. he and lucas seemed to rotate a bit there.

i haven’t gotten around to buying 5.6s. i should have tried the hi’s, with a forged plate to get lower, but i gave all of my forged stuff away. i feel like a goofus, holding gear, and then inevitably i want to try something a few years later. i’m really not sure why i liked the pop so much on 5.8s, and not on 5.2s. that doesn’t make sense. it’s not the first time it’s happened to me: don’t like indy 149s, really like indy 159s, don’t like ace classic 44s, reeeeeally like ace classic 55s. i should probably be locked up.
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I asked Bledsoe about that and he answered that he was on Thunder for so long that he wanted to just try other things. Similar to how he said in an interview that he always wanted to skate Half Cabs so he's doing that on his own volition and Vans sends him boxes. He said he's back on Thunder lights and they're his favorite, but he often reposts old footage and a lot of his Land part was on the experiments.

I saw Lucas was removed from the Thunder page, which is a crime on their part. He had a truck recently too.

yeah….for all of thunders somewhat generic brand image, the team, or pros that rode them, always stoked me out: mj, ellington, lucas, (recently) wade, nate jones. tons.
and when i started skating again, in the mid 90s, i got thunders on my first complete. they feel very natural to me.

if i needed to just skate one truck, and never mess with them, i think i could skate 148s pretty easily, for most things. i don’t really like boards greater than 8”, so i don’t do this. with the 148s i’ve just chucked 56 mm wheels in and been ok. i prefer 147s, those feel the most natural, and like thunders always felt, to me, but i cannot skate a wheel greater than 52mm with them. blah. ramble. blah.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: runespliffberg on August 30, 2023, 09:08:02 PM
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A lot of the footage you see of Shane he’s wearing a hat…..it’s not to keep those whips of golden hair out of his eyes but it’s to hide his pointy ears…..he is an elf….and probably uses magic.  Him, Sean Malto….young Tyler Bledstoe… all Elves….

I haven’t noticed much difference in my 5.2 vs 5.6’s.  I’ve never skated the lows but I’m liking the pop, turn, flip ability and weight of them.
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bledsoe is an elf. also possibly has some truck madness, i’ve seen footage of him skating thunder and indy. he and lucas seemed to rotate a bit there.

i haven’t gotten around to buying 5.6s. i should have tried the hi’s, with a forged plate to get lower, but i gave all of my forged stuff away. i feel like a goofus, holding gear, and then inevitably i want to try something a few years later. i’m really not sure why i liked the pop so much on 5.8s, and not on 5.2s. that doesn’t make sense. it’s not the first time it’s happened to me: don’t like indy 149s, really like indy 159s, don’t like ace classic 44s, reeeeeally like ace classic 55s. i should probably be locked up.
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I asked Bledsoe about that and he answered that he was on Thunder for so long that he wanted to just try other things. Similar to how he said in an interview that he always wanted to skate Half Cabs so he's doing that on his own volition and Vans sends him boxes. He said he's back on Thunder lights and they're his favorite, but he often reposts old footage and a lot of his Land part was on the experiments.

I saw Lucas was removed from the Thunder page, which is a crime on their part. He had a truck recently too.
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yeah….for all of thunders somewhat generic brand image, the team, or pros that rode them, always stoked me out: mj, ellington, lucas, (recently) wade, nate jones. tons.
and when i started skating again, in the mid 90s, i got thunders on my first complete. they feel very natural to me.

if i needed to just skate one truck, and never mess with them, i think i could skate 148s pretty easily, for most things. i don’t really like boards greater than 8”, so i don’t do this. with the 148s i’ve just chucked 56 mm wheels in and been ok. i prefer 147s, those feel the most natural, and like thunders always felt, to me, but i cannot skate a wheel greater than 52mm with them. blah. ramble. blah.

Dude 148’s have been my go to truck after all my experimentation and truck madness after switching from strictly Indy’s for 10 years. They’re the only truck that feels right to me. Ventures extend the wb too much, and it really fucks up a lot of my tricks. Aces pull in the wb too much, and although I love the turn/feel, I fall out of long grinds on them. Thunders are perfect, and have a great grind, turn so good, and give life to my deck so the pop is great, not dead like with Indy’s. Overall Thunder is the best truck in my opinion. Are they bland? Yeah. Is the marketing cool? Pretty lame if you ask me. But they turn, grind, pop, and skate so fucking good. So if you ask me, that’s why they’re the GOAT truck. Fuck all that marketing shit, and whatever the trends are. Just do what feels good to you and makes you feel good on your board. *drops mic*
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Shalom Peterson on August 30, 2023, 09:43:57 PM
Hit axle today on my back truck! I've been skating them for about six months. I've rotated them once. They went thru four decks and two sets of wheels. I don't see them making past this current deck, today was the first session with it.

I skate standard 6.1s with loose conversion bushings from day one. The gold baseplates are from Venue Skateboard's Venture collab. I bought some 5.2s and swapped the baseplates with the silver from the 6.1s.

I LOVE them. They took a lil getting used to, coming from a lifelong Indy and Ace rider, but once I got used to the turning and wheelbase, I fell in love.

The baseplate is my favorite part. It's HUGE. I love the fact that I have grooves on the inside of my baseplates.

The bushings are fucking awesome too. They don't freeze up in the cold, they make your trucks feel super loose, and they create grind clearance. I'm still barely grinding on the nut or kingpin. Definitely worth the extra $8. I hope they release them in more colors.

I can't wait to expose the axel more. It's motivating me right now to skate as much as much as possible.

(https://i.ibb.co/KrhSKnh/20230724-132022.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/LP2r4wX/20230724-132254.jpg)
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One month update:
-I rotated my trucks one last time & Both Axels are totally exposed
-Loose conversion bushings shredded the excess naturally, making the turn and pinch even better
-Still have minimal kingpin interference on every grinds other than feebles

(https://i.ibb.co/hHtszXC/20230831-002245.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/B4ySZwh/20230831-002514.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/9gWVxv5/20230831-002708.jpg)
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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on August 31, 2023, 12:18:57 AM
Madness is getting me. Venture is the only major brand I haven’t tried. I mainly want them cause the look, they’re the best looking trucks on the market IMHO. Not worried about the turning. I’m 248lbs, even Krux turn fine for me once dialed to my liking. Also don’t expect them to replace my Indys. I just want to try ‘em 🤤

Me too! It's weird. I love Indys, but Ventures have been calling me for a while now for some reason. I think I have to pull the trigger at some point just for the heck of it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 31, 2023, 12:42:46 AM
Madness is getting me. Venture is the only major brand I haven’t tried. I mainly want them cause the look, they’re the best looking trucks on the market IMHO. Not worried about the turning. I’m 248lbs, even Krux turn fine for me once dialed to my liking. Also don’t expect them to replace my Indys. I just want to try ‘em 🤤

Depends, are you ready to be AWAKE?

Madness got me too, not feeling the cast baseplates as much, especially on a shorter deck (31.75 x 14.25), going back to forged with a longer deck (32.25 x 14.38) or maybe a Primitive 8.25 / 8.38.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on August 31, 2023, 12:46:53 AM
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Madness is getting me. Venture is the only major brand I haven’t tried. I mainly want them cause the look, they’re the best looking trucks on the market IMHO. Not worried about the turning. I’m 248lbs, even Krux turn fine for me once dialed to my liking. Also don’t expect them to replace my Indys. I just want to try ‘em 🤤
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Depends, are you ready to be AWAKE?

Madness got me too, not feeling the cast baseplates as much, especially on a shorter deck (31.75 x 14.25), going back to forged with a longer deck (32.25 x 14.38) or maybe a Primitive 8.25 / 8.38.

A question for those in the know: how much do the V-Hollows (forged baseplate, I think?) add to the deck wb? +3.25" or even more?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 31, 2023, 01:46:14 AM
Cast - +3.25"
Forged - +3.4" - 3.5"

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0
Hasn't been updated in a while this has been my go-to for WBs on trucks for years.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 31, 2023, 06:23:32 AM
I tried forged on a 14.38 and thought I'd hate it, actually loved it. Super surprised, no nollie ghost pop and great snap. I didn't fully measure the WB bc I didn't wanna think about it really. Maybe it was the shorter height that did it for me? Who knows, but those and Thunder 148 have been my recent favorites.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on August 31, 2023, 07:16:27 AM
Forged Ventures without the big washer is where it's at.  Lowers them a bit, pulls in the wheelbase and makes them a little surfier. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on August 31, 2023, 07:39:40 AM
Forged Ventures without the big washer is where it's at.  Lowers them a bit, pulls in the wheelbase and makes them a little surfier.
forged plates extends the wb more than cast plates
Cast - +3.25"
Forged - +3.4" - 3.5"

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0
Hasn't been updated in a while this has been my go-to for WBs on trucks for years.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on August 31, 2023, 07:44:26 AM
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Forged Ventures without the big washer is where it's at.  Lowers them a bit, pulls in the wheelbase and makes them a little surfier.
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forged plates extends the wb more than cast plates
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Cast - +3.25"
Forged - +3.4" - 3.5"

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0
Hasn't been updated in a while this has been my go-to for WBs on trucks for years.
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Hence why I take off the big washer to pull it in which results in similar wheelbase to cast. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on August 31, 2023, 07:46:34 AM
ahh gotcha. aren't you worried that you're messing with the geometry and breaking down the pivot cups prematurely?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on August 31, 2023, 07:56:57 AM
ahh gotcha. aren't you worried that you're messing with the geometry and breaking down the pivot cups prematurely?

I haven't noticed any problems and I think they turn better.  Well maybe the pivot cup gets a little squeaky but I just put wax in it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on August 31, 2023, 09:18:39 AM
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ahh gotcha. aren't you worried that you're messing with the geometry and breaking down the pivot cups prematurely?
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I haven't noticed any problems and I think they turn better.  Well maybe the pivot cup gets a little squeaky but I just put wax in it.

Never thought a metal washer would have that big an impact on the wheelbase, I'm not Venturing (!) down the bushing rabbit hole.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on August 31, 2023, 09:40:15 AM
I tried Forged on a 14.38 deck I normally ride Thunder cast on and actually really like that combo. They have a lighter pop and the good Venture snap. I didn't measure WB because in my experience that isn't causal to what I like. Forged Indy and Thunder cast are the same WB but pop very different.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on August 31, 2023, 09:48:11 AM
I tried Forged on a 14.38 deck I normally ride Thunder cast on and actually really like that combo. They have a lighter pop and the good Venture snap. I didn't measure WB because in my experience that isn't causal to what I like. Forged Indy and Thunder cast are the same WB but pop very different.

I had some cast hollows on the Quasi 8.25 with the 14.38 wb and they paired up perfectly.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on August 31, 2023, 04:37:45 PM
I tried Forged on a 14.38 deck I normally ride Thunder cast on and actually really like that combo. They have a lighter pop and the good Venture snap. I didn't measure WB because in my experience that isn't causal to what I like. Forged Indy and Thunder cast are the same WB but pop very different.

good point, effective wb is not the whole
story.

thunder hi’s have always given me good to great pop, and predictably so.

venture hi’s i’ve struggled with. ventures lo’s are the best.
i need to give forged ventures some more tries. if i got the hi’s to work, i could just quit looking for trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 01, 2023, 02:51:35 AM
Pulled the trigger on the 5.6 forged Hi's (V-Lights), gonna be innaresting. Currently on Indy 144 Forged Titaniums. My pop comes and goes and is not consistent enough these days, it's of course mostly up to the rider but I'm looking forward to seeing how the Ventures treat my pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on September 01, 2023, 07:42:45 AM
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Hit axle today on my back truck! I've been skating them for about six months. I've rotated them once. They went thru four decks and two sets of wheels. I don't see them making past this current deck, today was the first session with it.

I skate standard 6.1s with loose conversion bushings from day one. The gold baseplates are from Venue Skateboard's Venture collab. I bought some 5.2s and swapped the baseplates with the silver from the 6.1s.

I LOVE them. They took a lil getting used to, coming from a lifelong Indy and Ace rider, but once I got used to the turning and wheelbase, I fell in love.

The baseplate is my favorite part. It's HUGE. I love the fact that I have grooves on the inside of my baseplates.

The bushings are fucking awesome too. They don't freeze up in the cold, they make your trucks feel super loose, and they create grind clearance. I'm still barely grinding on the nut or kingpin. Definitely worth the extra $8. I hope they release them in more colors.

I can't wait to expose the axel more. It's motivating me right now to skate as much as much as possible.
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One month update:
-I rotated my trucks one last time & Both Axels are totally exposed
-Loose conversion bushings shredded the excess naturally, making the turn and pinch even better
-Still have minimal kingpin interference on every grinds other than feebles

When I first saw the pics I was like are those the fucking Hokie footprints? Update confirmed it. Are you in Blacksburg now? That’s one of my favorite places in the world, graduated and stayed almost another 4 years. I was barely skating back then though. And good work on the trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on September 01, 2023, 07:56:39 AM
i remember reading about the 6.1s having a different geometry than other ventures.  does anyone have info on that?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: runespliffberg on September 01, 2023, 12:50:13 PM

(https://i.ibb.co/1LJphL8/IMG-1517.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1LJphL8)

Another update. Threw the stock bushings and bottom washer back in, and changed the top washer to a flat bones one. Definitely resolved most of my issues with the Ventures. They turn much deeper now, since the top washer isn’t binding anymore. Haven’t gotten any grinds in yet, just been skating flatground behind my job on lunch break for the past week, tinkering with them every other day. Gonna ride these out for a month or two, then switch back to Thunder and see how I like them in comparison after I’ve adjusted to the Ventures. Lowkey hyped on them now, haven’t had non-plain silver trucks since I was a kid.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 01, 2023, 03:40:35 PM
i remember reading about the 6.1s having a different geometry than other ventures.  does anyone have info on that?


Not that I could feel on the various sets I have, but I don't ride them as my main truck, so it doesn't really count for me I guess.

I have 5.6, 5.8 and 6.1 on boards, all run stock everything, all second hand from others, but they still skate exactly as I would expect from Venture trucks.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 01, 2023, 05:01:59 PM
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i remember reading about the 6.1s having a different geometry than other ventures.  does anyone have info on that?
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Not that I could feel on the various sets I have, but I don't ride them as my main truck, so it doesn't really count for me I guess.

I have 5.6, 5.8 and 6.1 on boards, all run stock everything, all second hand from others, but they still skate exactly as I would expect from Venture trucks.

if i remember, the word was that the 6.1s extend the effective wb a little bit less than the other sizes of ventures. i haven’t had them, nor ridden them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 01, 2023, 08:49:58 PM
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i remember reading about the 6.1s having a different geometry than other ventures.  does anyone have info on that?
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Not that I could feel on the various sets I have, but I don't ride them as my main truck, so it doesn't really count for me I guess.

I have 5.6, 5.8 and 6.1 on boards, all run stock everything, all second hand from others, but they still skate exactly as I would expect from Venture trucks.
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if i remember, the word was that the 6.1s extend the effective wb a little bit less than the other sizes of ventures. i haven’t had them, nor ridden them.


That would make sense then.

They did feel more comfortable than I would have thought on a decently big board, which had a longer wheelbase than the not so big boards I usually ride - the two setups they are on being 6.1 trucks on an 8.8 with about a 14.6 wb, compared to 5.8 on an 8.38 with 14.38 which I have them on now, or even DLX 8.5 with 14.25 wb when I put the 5.8s on a blue eagle just to see what they felt like.


I should get that board back out and put the 6.1s on a white eagle 8.75 and just see, as I have been skating a few of those recently on Indys.  Always helps to compare something I am used to with something else I know is different specs, wood, etc.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 02, 2023, 12:17:52 PM
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Not that I could feel on the various sets I have, but I don't ride them as my main truck, so it doesn't really count for me I guess.

I have 5.6, 5.8 and 6.1 on boards, all run stock everything, all second hand from others, but they still skate exactly as I would expect from Venture trucks.
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if i remember, the word was that the 6.1s extend the effective wb a little bit less than the other sizes of ventures. i haven’t had them, nor ridden them.
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That would make sense then.

They did feel more comfortable than I would have thought on a decently big board, which had a longer wheelbase than the not so big boards I usually ride - the two setups they are on being 6.1 trucks on an 8.8 with about a 14.6 wb, compared to 5.8 on an 8.38 with 14.38 which I have them on now, or even DLX 8.5 with 14.25 wb when I put the 5.8s on a blue eagle just to see what they felt like.


I should get that board back out and put the 6.1s on a white eagle 8.75 and just see, as I have been skating a few of those recently on Indys.  Always helps to compare something I am used to with something else I know is different specs, wood, etc.
6.1 cast: +3.125
forged: +3.25

source: the only trucks i ride
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Schinken on September 03, 2023, 02:54:06 AM
Any idea if the reduction of wheelbase comes from hanger or baseplate?

Some months ago I've bought some 5.8 v lights and I didn't like their feel on longer wheelbase decks compared to my 6.1s.
I thought it's due to the narrower trucks but maybe it's because the 5.8s increase the wheelbase much more
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on September 03, 2023, 03:09:54 AM
Any idea if the reduction of wheelbase comes from hanger or baseplate?

Some months ago I've bought some 5.8 v lights and I didn't like their feel on longer wheelbase decks compared to my 6.1s.
I thought it's due to the narrower trucks but maybe it's because the 5.8s increase the wheelbase much more

if you have cast plates on the 6.1s, that makes sense. The cast plates dont extend the wheelbase quite as much as the forged plates on the vlights.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: DeadSquidMask on September 03, 2023, 06:01:17 AM
I’ve been lurking on this thread for a long time. Been on ventures recently and enjoying the differences from aces and thunders.

However, the top bushing is just getting blown out right away.

On my 2nd set of bushings after only a few weeks riding these 5.2. I thought upgrading to thunder aftermarket 100a top bushings would be more resilient. Wrong!

Anyone got a recommendation for more appropriate replacements, or will I just need to spend another $10 every 2 weeks on new bushings?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on September 03, 2023, 07:00:59 AM
I’ve been lurking on this thread for a long time. Been on ventures recently and enjoying the differences from aces and thunders.

However, the top bushing is just getting blown out right away.

On my 2nd set of bushings after only a few weeks riding these 5.2. I thought upgrading to thunder aftermarket 100a top bushings would be more resilient. Wrong!

Anyone got a recommendation for more appropriate replacements, or will I just need to spend another $10 every 2 weeks on new bushings?


I have this problem as well, for what my experience is worth try doh doh’s. I’m running the yellow 92a with stock washers and they seem to be lasting the longest for me. I’ve tried just about everything and these by far are the best so far
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on September 03, 2023, 07:08:32 AM
I’ve been lurking on this thread for a long time. Been on ventures recently and enjoying the differences from aces and thunders.

However, the top bushing is just getting blown out right away.

On my 2nd set of bushings after only a few weeks riding these 5.2. I thought upgrading to thunder aftermarket 100a top bushings would be more resilient. Wrong!

Anyone got a recommendation for more appropriate replacements, or will I just need to spend another $10 every 2 weeks on new bushings?


I had Indy blue top but the bottom just blew so now I’m on Indy blue 92 and they felt okay. Little stiffer feeling than stock while not having to show as many threads. But I’m sure they’ll loosen up some once the bottoms break in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 03, 2023, 07:58:05 AM
Any idea if the reduction of wheelbase comes from hanger or baseplate?

Some months ago I've bought some 5.8 v lights and I didn't like their feel on longer wheelbase decks compared to my 6.1s.
I thought it's due to the narrower trucks but maybe it's because the 5.8s increase the wheelbase much more

i think it’s gotta be the hanger: venture uses the same baseplate for the hi’s and the lo’s, i can’t imagine they have a 6.1 specific baseplate.


interesting that some of you are having bushing problems, i’ve got venture bushings from 2006 ish, doing just fine. granted, most of my venture bushings come from lo’s, that are not articulating as much as a hi would, so maybe that’s it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on September 03, 2023, 08:57:25 AM
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I’ve been lurking on this thread for a long time. Been on ventures recently and enjoying the differences from aces and thunders.

However, the top bushing is just getting blown out right away.

On my 2nd set of bushings after only a few weeks riding these 5.2. I thought upgrading to thunder aftermarket 100a top bushings would be more resilient. Wrong!

Anyone got a recommendation for more appropriate replacements, or will I just need to spend another $10 every 2 weeks on new bushings?
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I have this problem as well, for what my experience is worth try doh doh’s. I’m running the yellow 92a with stock washers and they seem to be lasting the longest for me. I’ve tried just about everything and these by far are the best so far

indy 90a with flat washer, stock washer is too small
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 03, 2023, 11:39:58 AM
Ya this is a Venture and Thunder problem due to the top washer pinching the bushing and the bushings sucking. On Thunders it happens a bit slower but always does.

For Venture the Supercush seem to last slightly longer, but I'd just find something cheap that is similar duro and try the top washer mod.

Personally I just emailed DLX and they sent me 4 sets of stock bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Tireeedd on September 03, 2023, 01:53:32 PM
just stop riding ventures lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 03, 2023, 02:15:54 PM
just stop riding ventures lol


spazzing
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on September 03, 2023, 03:06:01 PM
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I’ve been lurking on this thread for a long time. Been on ventures recently and enjoying the differences from aces and thunders.

However, the top bushing is just getting blown out right away.

On my 2nd set of bushings after only a few weeks riding these 5.2. I thought upgrading to thunder aftermarket 100a top bushings would be more resilient. Wrong!

Anyone got a recommendation for more appropriate replacements, or will I just need to spend another $10 every 2 weeks on new bushings?
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I had Indy blue top but the bottom just blew so now I’m on Indy blue 92 and they felt okay. Little stiffer feeling than stock while not having to show as many threads. But I’m sure they’ll loosen up some once the bottoms break in.


Well after today the blue Indy 92 set seemed too stiff for me. So I’m either gonna out a flat washer on the bottom barrel or would I need the top conical to be a flat washer? If that’s what it needs? I want the stability but more turn. The stock bushings kinda gave me that. But they cracked on me and started getting less stable at center.  I put Royal bottoms in and they are taller than the venture bottoms. They feel good but are definitely taller.

Ace bushings? I have some 92a indy conical bushings laying around?  Any recommendations?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 03, 2023, 06:07:05 PM
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i remember reading about the 6.1s having a different geometry than other ventures.  does anyone have info on that?
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Not that I could feel on the various sets I have, but I don't ride them as my main truck, so it doesn't really count for me I guess.

I have 5.6, 5.8 and 6.1 on boards, all run stock everything, all second hand from others, but they still skate exactly as I would expect from Venture trucks.
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if i remember, the word was that the 6.1s extend the effective wb a little bit less than the other sizes of ventures. i haven’t had them, nor ridden them.
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That would make sense then.

They did feel more comfortable than I would have thought on a decently big board, which had a longer wheelbase than the not so big boards I usually ride - the two setups they are on being 6.1 trucks on an 8.8 with about a 14.6 wb, compared to 5.8 on an 8.38 with 14.38 which I have them on now, or even DLX 8.5 with 14.25 wb when I put the 5.8s on a blue eagle just to see what they felt like.


I should get that board back out and put the 6.1s on a white eagle 8.75 and just see, as I have been skating a few of those recently on Indys.  Always helps to compare something I am used to with something else I know is different specs, wood, etc.
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6.1 cast: +3.125
forged: +3.25

source: the only trucks i ride


Thanks for that!

As I posted in another thread:

I just set up an 8.75 Polar board with 14.375 wb on the basic Venture 6.1 trucks and the thing actually feels way more fun than I would have thought.  Had the trucks on something else before that, which just wasn't doing it for me, but I thought I should mix it up and see how it goes.  All second hand / used parts, just figuring out what works and what doesn't work.

Other longer wb boards also feel ok with these trucks too, like the DLX 8.75 shape / white eagle which has 14.62 wb, but I prefer the more mellow / less steep kicks on anything I ride which might have helped it work for me on my mellow boards too.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 03, 2023, 06:15:23 PM
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i remember reading about the 6.1s having a different geometry than other ventures.  does anyone have info on that?
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Not that I could feel on the various sets I have, but I don't ride them as my main truck, so it doesn't really count for me I guess.

I have 5.6, 5.8 and 6.1 on boards, all run stock everything, all second hand from others, but they still skate exactly as I would expect from Venture trucks.
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if i remember, the word was that the 6.1s extend the effective wb a little bit less than the other sizes of ventures. i haven’t had them, nor ridden them.
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That would make sense then.

They did feel more comfortable than I would have thought on a decently big board, which had a longer wheelbase than the not so big boards I usually ride - the two setups they are on being 6.1 trucks on an 8.8 with about a 14.6 wb, compared to 5.8 on an 8.38 with 14.38 which I have them on now, or even DLX 8.5 with 14.25 wb when I put the 5.8s on a blue eagle just to see what they felt like.


I should get that board back out and put the 6.1s on a white eagle 8.75 and just see, as I have been skating a few of those recently on Indys.  Always helps to compare something I am used to with something else I know is different specs, wood, etc.
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6.1 cast: +3.125
forged: +3.25

source: the only trucks i ride
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Thanks for that!

As I posted in another thread:

I just set up an 8.75 Polar board with 14.375 wb on the basic Venture 6.1 trucks and the thing actually feels way more fun than I would have thought.  Had the trucks on something else before that, which just wasn't doing it for me, but I thought I should mix it up and see how it goes.  All second hand / used parts, just figuring out what works and what doesn't work.

Other longer wb boards also feel ok with these trucks too, like the DLX 8.75 shape / white eagle which has 14.62 wb, but I prefer the more mellow / less steep kicks on anything I ride which might have helped it work for me on my mellow boards too.

i don’t skate big boards, but 6.1s with the loose trucks bushing kit sound like a lot of fun
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 03, 2023, 06:50:50 PM
about to try forged 6.1s with a 14.5 wb board
wish me luck
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 03, 2023, 06:57:44 PM
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6.1 cast: +3.125
forged: +3.25

source: the only trucks i ride
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Thanks for that!

As I posted in another thread:

I just set up an 8.75 Polar board with 14.375 wb on the basic Venture 6.1 trucks and the thing actually feels way more fun than I would have thought.  Had the trucks on something else before that, which just wasn't doing it for me, but I thought I should mix it up and see how it goes.  All second hand / used parts, just figuring out what works and what doesn't work.

Other longer wb boards also feel ok with these trucks too, like the DLX 8.75 shape / white eagle which has 14.62 wb, but I prefer the more mellow / less steep kicks on anything I ride which might have helped it work for me on my mellow boards too.
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i don’t skate big boards, but 6.1s with the loose trucks bushing kit sound like a lot of fun


The stock bushings are actually worn in nicely and quite loose enough on these ones, although I have tightened them down another full turn for others to skate the board at the next session and they feel really firm right now.

I did get some of those loose truck bushing kits just to see what they were like (and because they are green bushings) and they definitely go nicely when I tighten the kingpin nut down more, or put them on boards I have machined down the kingpins significantly to allow for hangers that are down to the axle.




about to try forged 6.1s with a 14.5 wb board
wish me luck


You usually rode 14 or similar wheelbases didn't you?

Good luck any which way!!!



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on September 03, 2023, 09:31:00 PM
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I’ve been lurking on this thread for a long time. Been on ventures recently and enjoying the differences from aces and thunders.

However, the top bushing is just getting blown out right away.

On my 2nd set of bushings after only a few weeks riding these 5.2. I thought upgrading to thunder aftermarket 100a top bushings would be more resilient. Wrong!

Anyone got a recommendation for more appropriate replacements, or will I just need to spend another $10 every 2 weeks on new bushings?
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I had Indy blue top but the bottom just blew so now I’m on Indy blue 92 and they felt okay. Little stiffer feeling than stock while not having to show as many threads. But I’m sure they’ll loosen up some once the bottoms break in.
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Well after today the blue Indy 92 set seemed too stiff for me. So I’m either gonna out a flat washer on the bottom barrel or would I need the top conical to be a flat washer? If that’s what it needs? I want the stability but more turn. The stock bushings kinda gave me that. But they cracked on me and started getting less stable at center.  I put Royal bottoms in and they are taller than the venture bottoms. They feel good but are definitely taller.

Ace bushings? I have some 92a indy conical bushings laying around?  Any recommendations?

flat washer on top, flat bottom washer may not make huge difference
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 03, 2023, 10:21:01 PM
about to try forged 6.1s with a 14.5 wb board
wish me luck

it might work great!
i rode the griffin gas shape, about the same wb (it’s like 14.43), and i LOVED that board. i got a brophy shape right after that, 14.75 wb, and liked that one as well. and i’m 5’7”, and feel at home on the girl 7.75. soooooo.

anyways, hope it goes well
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 04, 2023, 12:10:20 AM
What's the hardness of Venture stock bushings?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 04, 2023, 01:06:30 AM
I caved and bought some "used" Venture 5.8 V-lights hollows. How much does the loose trucks conversion kit effect its wb?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on September 04, 2023, 01:19:04 AM
I caved and bought some "used" Venture 5.8 V-lights hollows. How much does the loose trucks conversion kit effect its wb?

None, its only the top bushing thats shorter
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 04, 2023, 01:26:34 AM
Doesnt that pull the hangar down and change the geo slightly?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on September 04, 2023, 04:20:02 AM
Doesnt that pull the hangar down and change the geo slightly?

Nah, the hanger sits under the top bushing and is therefore unaffected by it. The bottom bushing is the same height as the stock one, so the geometry is the same.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 04, 2023, 04:27:42 AM
What's the hardness of Venture stock bushings?


Stock bushings are all 90 duro, regardless of which colour they are.  They used to be a lot harder quite a while back, as per some older ones that were said to be 98 duro, but now everything is 90 and has been for a few years now at least.

Kind of funny now Venture, Thunder and Indy all have 90 as stock bushings, whereas other brands have more specific options like Ace, 91 top and 86 bottoms.  Most of the generic or beginner boards all come with 90 duro bushings now too, which is good, as it works well for everyone, especially the smaller and lighter people using them.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on September 04, 2023, 05:02:53 AM
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Stock bushings are all 90 duro, regardless of which colour they are.  They used to be a lot harder quite a while back, as per some older ones that were said to be 98 duro, but now everything is 90 and has been for a few years now at least.

Kind of funny now Venture, Thunder and Indy all have 90 as stock bushings, whereas other brands have more specific options like Ace, 91 top and 86 bottoms.  Most of the generic or beginner boards all come with 90 duro bushings now too, which is good, as it works well for everyone, especially the smaller and lighter people using them.
There is no way my Ventures were 90. Had a terrible time with them. Sold them to a friend and back to Ace.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 04, 2023, 06:50:39 AM
According to DLX they all are but the black Kader Venture bushings feel harder for sure.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on September 04, 2023, 07:15:48 AM
everyone's insistence that venture bushings aren't 90a really goes to show how the geometry and design of a truck can affect things
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 04, 2023, 10:48:10 AM
Durometer is just shoving a needle into something and getting a single measurement. It doesn't measure things like rebound, how temperature changes the urethane, and how resilient the urethane is to stress.

In any sport with tires you'll see this all the time and Durometer isn't really used often. In bike tires if you have the same duro rubber but a different sidewall and/or casing the tire will behave completely different.

Lots of people seem to think DLX bushings that are a solid color behave differently than ones that are translucent.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Meathook on September 04, 2023, 04:08:40 PM
Durometer is just shoving a needle into something and getting a single measurement. It doesn't measure things like rebound, how temperature changes the urethane, and how resilient the urethane is to stress.

In any sport with tires you'll see this all the time and Durometer isn't really used often. In bike tires if you have the same duro rubber but a different sidewall and/or casing the tire will behave completely different.

Lots of people seem to think DLX bushings that are a solid color behave differently than ones that are translucent.

In my experience with both venture and Thunder, the semi transparent stock bushings usually always split crack or explode.  When I have sets that have opaque bushings as stock or deluxe bait and tackle, have had no issues.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 04, 2023, 04:19:14 PM
I've had them all die, the Thunder white bushings were by far the worst. They were really soft and lasted <2 weeks before the top split in half while skating.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on September 04, 2023, 04:29:19 PM
I think I’m happy with Indy 92a top and stock indy bottom. One ish thread showing. I do kinda hate the miss match color. But I’m kinda debating on indy conical blues. I’m going through bushing madness hard now that my stock ventures cracked
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 04, 2023, 08:17:09 PM
somehow i have avoided bushing madness, for the most part.
i’ve tried a few conical bushings in ventures, and the turn was different for certain. bones hards worked well. i think i’ve come around to the cylinders, and kinda tight (when i’m riding the lo’s).
when trucks are too loose, i lose pop. don’t like it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on September 05, 2023, 05:33:12 AM
somehow i have avoided bushing madness, for the most part.
i’ve tried a few conical bushings in ventures, and the turn was different for certain. bones hards worked well. i think i’ve come around to the cylinders, and kinda tight (when i’m riding the lo’s).
when trucks are too loose, i lose pop. don’t like it.

I feel you. I lose pop the looser I get. I’ve been skating a park a lot when I can now and it has really fun kinda mellow transition. And that’s why I’m trying get a bit more turn. But I want to be able to hit the transition with out like kinda tic tacing (I’m bad at transition) but not lose pop cause the ledge at the park is fun as hell
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 05, 2023, 06:58:53 AM
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somehow i have avoided bushing madness, for the most part.
i’ve tried a few conical bushings in ventures, and the turn was different for certain. bones hards worked well. i think i’ve come around to the cylinders, and kinda tight (when i’m riding the lo’s).
when trucks are too loose, i lose pop. don’t like it.
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I feel you. I lose pop the looser I get. I’ve been skating a park a lot when I can now and it has really fun kinda mellow transition. And that’s why I’m trying get a bit more turn. But I want to be able to hit the transition with out like kinda tic tacing (I’m bad at transition) but not lose pop cause the ledge at the park is fun as hell

i’m a big big fan of ventures, but they are not ace, or the ilk. meaning, they have a very obviously different turn (which i appreciate, on what i skate), that MAY be less good for some, especially in transition. i used to use the hard bones, no bottom washer, the lower conical bushing gave me a bit more swerve, maybe it brought the effective wb in a touch, idk. i did lose a bit of stability, and bones bushings can be expensive and not last very long. i recommend using the hard bushings, slightly looser, as the hard ones were significantly better for me in both longevity and in return.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on September 05, 2023, 08:19:58 AM
I recently scored some venture lows from a fellow slap user. I mainly wanted them to secure some new cast plates, but am intrigued in trying them out one day. I did a majority of my early skating on Thunder 147s so I think I could get used to the lower height with no major complaints

question for venture low advocates
what boards do you typically ride them with? I was thinking of throwing them on a FA since I won't be setting it up with venture highs as I hated that combo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on September 05, 2023, 09:22:01 AM
I recently scored some venture lows from a fellow slap user. I mainly wanted them to secure some new cast plates, but am intrigued in trying them out one day. I did a majority of my early skating on Thunder 147s so I think I could get used to the lower height with no major complaints

question for venture low advocates
what boards do you typically ride them with? I was thinking of throwing them on a FA since I won't be setting it up with venture highs as I hated that combo

PJ ladd set up: (actually 7.9"), (currently skate this setup)
Plan B 8"/31.33" if you are a short person, nice crispy pop and flick, but it has small tail, you can find 31.75" one for more average board feel when skating switch.

Old Sewa set up:(8.125")
Blind last longer for it's epoxy glue, no concave on nose and tail (complete flat), nice and poppy, need a couple days to loosen up the deck (too hard in first few days)

Yuto setup:(8")
April deck, great in first few weeks, then gets soggy quickly, I usually skate 2.5 month for a deck, but April only last me 1.5~2 month. It's almost in between twin tail or twin nose shape, great for nollie/switch flips.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 05, 2023, 09:31:59 AM
I think I’m happy with Indy 92a top and stock indy bottom. One ish thread showing. I do kinda hate the miss match color. But I’m kinda debating on indy conical blues. I’m going through bushing madness hard now that my stock ventures cracked

Honestly just do blue the whole way I'd wager the nut will still be flush or a tad bit past.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 05, 2023, 11:56:06 AM
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I recently scored some venture lows from a fellow slap user. I mainly wanted them to secure some new cast plates, but am intrigued in trying them out one day. I did a majority of my early skating on Thunder 147s so I think I could get used to the lower height with no major complaints

question for venture low advocates
what boards do you typically ride them with? I was thinking of throwing them on a FA since I won't be setting it up with venture highs as I hated that combo
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PJ ladd set up: (actually 7.9"), (currently skate this setup)
Plan B 8"/31.33" if you are a short person, nice crispy pop and flick, but it has small tail, you can find 31.75" one for more average board feel when skating switch.

Old Sewa set up:(8.125")
Blind last longer for it's epoxy glue, no concave on nose and tail (complete flat), nice and poppy, need a couple days to loosen up the deck (too hard in first few days)

Yuto setup:(8")
April deck, great in first few weeks, then gets soggy quickly, I usually skate 2.5 month for a deck, but April only last me 1.5~2 month. It's almost in between twin tail or twin nose shape, great for nollie/switch flips.

dick coming in with the specific recommendations, i love it.


i don’t like fa boards, i just don’t like steep stuff. that being said, one of the things with venture lo’s, for me, is that they just work, on pretty much everything.
i really like the girl 7.75, and 7.875 shapes, they are short tho (which is why i like them, shorter tail and that)
ps stix anything 8 ish, 14.25 or less.
similar to 147s, 52 is the max wheel size for me on lo’s, worn down to 50 is best.
i skate the trucks tighter. you’ll be ok, promise.
if you need more turning, go into your side yard and use a hula hoop for awhile and get it out of your system. if that doesn’t work, try removing the bottom washer, using indy stock bushing, using bones bushings (i always went without the bottom washer), and then with any of the bushing combos, i used to run a flat top washer, opens the turning up a bit. now i don’t fuck with that tho.
i need to move my popping foot to the absolute tippy tip of the tail/nose. which works great for me cuz this is what i had to do to get a street cab with 157s and slimeballs off of the ground as a 5’ (if) tall, 80
pound child.

my only complaints with the lo’s are the wheel size, skating rougher ground. but then i need to remind myself that i’m just a little baby, bobby was on lo’s for moving in traffic, he made it work. i can do the same. i need to stop whining.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 06, 2023, 02:02:40 AM
re: ventures not with short wheelbase

i have been teaching a lady friend how to skate
was going to put her on ventures but the local was out of 6.1s
went with ace 60s and the dlx 8.75/32.5/14.625wb

i did a couple of flip tricks and goddamn
the added wheelbase and length didnt feel off at all
not to mention the +400g weight was hardly noticeable
pop feel was similar, just missing the needed venture stability
the effective wb is close to what i ride so maybe thats it?
you all know i notoriously like short wb, trust me im baffled

my current ride is 8.75/31.75/14wb
it has been feeling too short for a while but is it wb or length?

anyway, the longer board gave me more confidence
more space to set up comfortably
rotations even felt easier, the weight made em whip around
basically everything felt better outside of ace squirrellyness

so im picking up a polar 9.0/32.25/14.5wb deck to test stock
pairing it up with 6.1 hollows
at best, i backtrack on all the times i said it doesnt work
at worst, i can just redrill it to 14.125wb and keep the length

anyone here running 14.5wb and ventures these days?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on September 06, 2023, 02:24:25 AM
anyone here running 14.5wb and ventures these days?

Yup, 5.8 Hollows on the Ishod 8.5 twin (14.5 / 32.2) has been my go-to setup for almost a year now, most of the time frankentrucked with old cast baseplates. Lately I've had trouble getting that deck though, so I took that as an opportunity to give shorter wheelbases a shot. 14.25 is the lowest I can go without it feeling to far off, and then I'll use forged baseplates to  push the WB out a little more. I've simply come to appreciate the stability of a long effective wheelbase I guess.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on September 06, 2023, 06:27:43 AM
i'm skating a 9" eagle that has a 15" wb on cast 6.1s.  it definitely feels like alot of board, but i'm tall with big feet and determined to make it work.  worth mentioning i'm skating mostly flat, and curbs & ledges
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on September 08, 2023, 05:48:05 PM
i'm skating a 9" eagle that has a 15" wb on cast 6.1s.  it definitely feels like alot of board, but i'm tall with big feet and determined to make it work.  worth mentioning i'm skating mostly flat, and curbs & ledges

This old dude at my local skates the same setup and kills it in transition. If you can make that tank work then more power to you.

I’ve been on thunders for a hot minute but recently setup 5.8 titanium hangers on standard baseplates and so far it’s been super fun.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 08, 2023, 08:38:40 PM
re: ventures not with short wheelbase

i have been teaching a lady friend how to skate
was going to put her on ventures but the local was out of 6.1s
went with ace 60s and the dlx 8.75/32.5/14.625wb

i did a couple of flip tricks and goddamn
the added wheelbase and length didnt feel off at all
not to mention the +400g weight was hardly noticeable
pop feel was similar, just missing the needed venture stability
the effective wb is close to what i ride so maybe thats it?
you all know i notoriously like short wb, trust me im baffled

my current ride is 8.75/31.75/14wb
it has been feeling too short for a while but is it wb or length?

anyway, the longer board gave me more confidence
more space to set up comfortably
rotations even felt easier, the weight made em whip around
basically everything felt better outside of ace squirrellyness

so im picking up a polar 9.0/32.25/14.5wb deck to test stock
pairing it up with 6.1 hollows
at best, i backtrack on all the times i said it doesnt work
at worst, i can just redrill it to 14.125wb and keep the length

anyone here running 14.5wb and ventures these days?

awhile back i got annoyed with myself only skating 14” wb, or less, and started trying to go the other way. i used to have a really really odd board, that amongst many other quirks, had a 14.75 wb. i could treflip it pretty easily, which is a trip because sometimes i will go FORFUCJINFEVER without landing a one, or a good one, on setups that really only have that sole purpose.

so anyways, i started off with a griffin gass shape, just less than 14.5. board was amazing. wrong thread for all of this nonsense, for many reasons, most saliently: i was skating thunder 149s. loved that setup. instead of getting another one and calling it good, i then moved on to trying the next longest wb that was readily available to me in that moment, that chud brophy’s board, with a 14.75 wb. that board skated very well. nonsense.
the brophy was too big, but did a lot of what i wanted it to do, and when that stuff worked, it was extremely satisfying. i think it was  @Sedition that mentioned this in another thread, paraphrasing: bigger board is more satisfying/feels better, even at the expense of tricks.

because you are, if i remember, a pretty tall person, i’ve wondered if that dipshit brophy’s board would work well for you. the proportions are nice.

i think effective wb is a trap. there is some other magic that is a foot. i love my venture lo’s on the girl boards with the sub 14” wb, but if i had to guess, it’s really the tail on that shape, and the overall length of the board, that i enjoy.

once again i’ve written a lot, said little of note.
i don’t have some personal grudge against brophy. just seemed like he did drugs with carroll and got onto a team i used to love. i favor the idea of a diet reese, it’s just not….

sort of on track: i’d be surprised if a longer board didn’t help you out.
and ventures are sick. i don’t even try and match the trucks and the wb anymore.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Horsemeat on September 08, 2023, 09:35:21 PM
I agree with the “effective wheelbase is bogus” point. Went through such severe gear madness over Covid time, that I now have something like 14 sets of trucks 8.0-8.75 in multiple brands. I tried pairing so many things based off the “science” and to match my short height. It wasn’t until I just tried completely random setups that I found stuff that worked for me. 

Example: these are all setups I tried with the Ishod 8.38 twin tail

Venture 5.8, 5.6 with whatever wheels all felt perfect. I didn’t try this for so long because I thought it’d be clunky. The pop was so intense I’d feel it snap into my feet, unlike any other setup I had ventures on.

Indy 149 standards, good feeling pop but sluggish and heavy feeling

Ace 44 classics which I think are actually heavier than 149 Indy’s felt light poppy and fun even with 55mm wide heavy wheels.

149 thunders with 53mm wheels on the same board had a dull terrible feeling pop

And the setup that made me give up on all this calculating: 148 thunders on 52 mm spitfires had a super light crisp pop and felt almost as good as ventures. There should be barely any difference between the 149 thunders tho, right?

Idk but bringing it back to venture 2020, the twin tail, venture setup cured my madness. Got me back enjoying skating, once the madness fog cleared.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 09, 2023, 08:37:42 AM
Had my first session Ventures today! V-hollow lights 5.8, on a Real Mason Silva 8,5 deck with 14.25wb, that was already used lightly. I do ghostpop, even tho im used to Thunders raws, but its also a deck that for sure favours indy, as its a pretty hefty deck. It does feel very nice and crispy when I do pop, and I feel very stable!
Idk how people complain about Venture turn. They turn perfectly fine to me who's used to Thunder. Can even do rather tight 180 carves.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on September 09, 2023, 08:55:53 AM
Had my first session Ventures today! V-hollow lights 5.8, on a Real Mason Silva 8,5 deck with 14.25wb, that was already used lightly. I do ghostpop, even tho im used to Thunders raws, but its also a deck that for sure favours indy, as its a pretty hefty deck. It does feel very nice and crispy when I do pop, and I feel very stable!
Idk how people complain about Venture turn. They turn perfectly fine to me who's used to Thunder. Can even do rather tight 180 carves.

The 5.8s feel pretty nimble to me compared to 5.6.

Switched from 5.2 lows & 51s to 5.2 light highs & 53s today. Results to be determined.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Yakusoku2 on September 09, 2023, 11:52:34 AM
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Had my first session Ventures today! V-hollow lights 5.8, on a Real Mason Silva 8,5 deck with 14.25wb, that was already used lightly. I do ghostpop, even tho im used to Thunders raws, but its also a deck that for sure favours indy, as its a pretty hefty deck. It does feel very nice and crispy when I do pop, and I feel very stable!
Idk how people complain about Venture turn. They turn perfectly fine to me who's used to Thunder. Can even do rather tight 180 carves.
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The 5.8s feel pretty nimble to me compared to 5.6.

Switched from 5.2 lows & 51s to 5.2 light highs & 53s today. Results to be determined.

I’m interested in reading the results!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 12, 2023, 07:36:36 AM
Ok, so I got my first ever Ventures last week.

Got the 5.6 Hi V-Lights, skating them on an 8.25" / 31.5" length / 13.88" wb. No custom shit, the bushings are stock.

Skater profile: I'm not a great skater, but I can tell how my equipment affects my skating and I know what I like.

Two sessions in so far:

The first one was just a quick cruise to the store with some ollies/downhill. The trucks felt instantly kinda "right" and, eh, comfortable, for lack of a better word. My pop is not massive (I'm in my late 40s) but it felt kinda solid with the Ventures, more so than on Aces or Indys. Also, enjoyed the instant overall stability, didn't feel like I had to screw around with tightening/loosening the trucks or breaking in the bushings for a long period of time. The turn was different from e.g. Indys, but I did not dislike it at all. Every truck turns, it's all relative. Initial reaction after first sesh: great trucks.

The second session was ledge/curb sesh at my local schoolyard which has a nice staircase that's short but otherwise perfect for legde stuff. Started with ollies / flatground and some fs 50-50 stalls on the lowest stair. Lo and behold, the first 50-50 stall just popped perfectly into place. There's that "solid" feel again. Overall I felt like my ollies were benefiting from the trucks.

The sesh continued with fs 50-50 grinds on the stair, where again I felt like the solid-feeling ollie helped me secure the grinds more consistently than before. Based on what I'd read about Ventures, I imagined the grind would be significantly worse than e.g. on Indys. It didn't feel like that. Maybe a tiny bit at first, but after a normal wax job on the stair the grinds were there, nice and smooth, no problem.

I suck at bs 50-50 grinds, but as I tried them even they felt better than before, as the trucks seemed to give me a bit of extra confidence with their stability.

Finished the session with more flatground and ollies up to the higher stairs, where I again felt my pop was better and the overall feel was more solid.

Note: I skate a lot of transition, and I'm yet to try the trucks on bigger transition at high speed. As I like my trucks pretty tight even on transition, I'm kinda positive these won't be a dissappointment.

Overall I like these trucks very, very much and I'm super glad I gave Ventures a shot. I think they are going to feel even better as I get more used to them. No complaints whatsoever as of yet. Pretty stoked about them – definitely a keeper for a street setup. Looking forward to skating them more.

p.s. Oh, and the short length and wheelbase 31.5" / 13.88" of the board felt nice with these trucks. Whereas the deck felt cramped on Indys, it did not feel like that with Ventures. Felt like my wheelbase goldilocks zone with Ventures would be at around 14.125".

Me likey.






Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 12, 2023, 08:40:29 AM
You're Awake - welcome to the club

What 8.25 are you riding with that short WB?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on September 12, 2023, 08:51:41 AM
You're Awake - welcome to the club

What 8.25 are you riding with that short WB?
sounds like the DLX true fit mold shape
https://www.realskateboards.com/spring-2023/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 12, 2023, 10:56:53 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/HBepyHL.mp4)

Polished my Kader 5.6 V Hollow. Used a dremel with some buffing wheels and went 80, 200, 600, then a buffing wheel on a hand drill to finish them off. Kinda removed a few of my grind marks but those will come back immediately.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 12, 2023, 12:21:08 PM
I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 12, 2023, 12:25:10 PM
You're Awake - welcome to the club

What 8.25 are you riding with that short WB?

It's the Antihero Grant Taylor 'Terrestrial Seasonings' model (DLX/BBS, yes). Yeah, the wb is weirdly short, Skatedeluxe lists it at 14" but it's 13.88" in reality. EDIT: the DLX true fit mold, that's the one, thanks.

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/anti-hero-grant-terrestrial-seasonings-8-25-skateboard-deck-multi_p162840

Lately I've been riding basic DLX 8.25 shapes with Indys (a lot of transition as said), but I'm kinda on the fence about the 14.38" wb for street stuff with Ventures as I'm only 5'9" and the total wheelbase will result as long.

Actually really enjoyed the short deck, will probably explore more shorter decks/wheelbases from now on, feels fun.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 12, 2023, 01:00:49 PM
I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.

One thing I will say is you note you ride the DLX 8.25, which has a fairly short tail and Venture cast could make it feel sorta heavy. If you can find a cheap forged set do not abandon hope if cast don't fully work.

Also, I'm with you on not wanting to support NHS. I thought about getting Bronson Ceramics at one point, but didn't because they're under the distro. I am fine riding Thunder or Venture mostly because of the DLX umbrella and only was on Indys because I thought I skated better on them, but I don't.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 12, 2023, 01:05:25 PM
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I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.
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One thing I will say is you note you ride the DLX 8.25, which has a fairly short tail and Venture cast could make it feel sorta heavy. If you can find a cheap forged set do not abandon hope if cast don't fully work.

Also, I'm with you on not wanting to support NHS. I thought about getting Bronson Ceramics at one point, but didn't because they're under the distro. I am fine riding Thunder or Venture mostly because of the DLX umbrella and only was on Indys because I thought I skated better on them, but I don't.

The 8.25 has like an 8.5 tail, which is actually a tad longer than other common DLX tails (e.g. the 8.38. 8.4, and 8.5, which are like 8.437, IIRC). And don't worry...I got a set of both Cast Hollows and V-Hollows coming. Full Madness, let's roll. I hate NHS, but man, how I do like my Indys.   
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 12, 2023, 01:40:57 PM
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I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.
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One thing I will say is you note you ride the DLX 8.25, which has a fairly short tail and Venture cast could make it feel sorta heavy. If you can find a cheap forged set do not abandon hope if cast don't fully work.

Also, I'm with you on not wanting to support NHS. I thought about getting Bronson Ceramics at one point, but didn't because they're under the distro. I am fine riding Thunder or Venture mostly because of the DLX umbrella and only was on Indys because I thought I skated better on them, but I don't.
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The 8.25 has like an 8.5 tail, which is actually a tad longer than other common DLX tails (e.g. the 8.38. 8.4, and 8.5, which are like 8.437, IIRC). And don't worry...I got a set of both Cast Hollows and V-Hollows coming. Full Madness, let's roll. I hate NHS, but man, how I do like my Indys.

That's not the case actually. The 8.25 has a 6.5, the 8.5 is 6.625, and my recent 8.4 was between 6.625 and 6.725. The 8.38 is also 6.68. I hate short tails so its the one measurement I always keep track of and the 8.25 is not my preferred deck because of its tail although I will ride them. My normal BBS 8.38 is only 6.675, which isn't much longer, but I vastly prefer it to the DLX 8.25 and will ride the 8.4 and 8.38 before I'd ride the 8.25.

Honestly the cast pop feel isn't insanely different from Indy. It has a slightly delayed timing and is a bit heavier, but I see why people make the comparison.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 12, 2023, 03:20:16 PM
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I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.
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One thing I will say is you note you ride the DLX 8.25, which has a fairly short tail and Venture cast could make it feel sorta heavy. If you can find a cheap forged set do not abandon hope if cast don't fully work.

Also, I'm with you on not wanting to support NHS. I thought about getting Bronson Ceramics at one point, but didn't because they're under the distro. I am fine riding Thunder or Venture mostly because of the DLX umbrella and only was on Indys because I thought I skated better on them, but I don't.
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The 8.25 has like an 8.5 tail, which is actually a tad longer than other common DLX tails (e.g. the 8.38. 8.4, and 8.5, which are like 8.437, IIRC). And don't worry...I got a set of both Cast Hollows and V-Hollows coming. Full Madness, let's roll. I hate NHS, but man, how I do like my Indys.
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That's not the case actually. The 8.25 has a 6.5, the 8.5 is 6.625, and my recent 8.4 was between 6.625 and 6.725. The 8.38 is also 6.68. I hate short tails so its the one measurement I always keep track of and the 8.25 is not my preferred deck because of its tail although I will ride them. My normal BBS 8.38 is only 6.675, which isn't much longer, but I vastly prefer it to the DLX 8.25 and will ride the 8.4 and 8.38 before I'd ride the 8.25.

Honestly the cast pop feel isn't insanely different from Indy. It has a slightly delayed timing and is a bit heavier, but I see why people make the comparison.

My experience has been different. I measure every deck I get. Never once had an 8.38, 8.4, or 8.5 with a LONGER tail than the 8.25. The opposite, actually. I stopped riding those mostly because of that exact issue (well, I love 14.38wb, too)—I, also, hate short tails (even worse, when they are more rounded off). I look forward to trying Venture, again…but I have been down this road before…will anything be different this time around? TBA. I’ll certainly post a follow-up once I’ve spent some time on them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 12, 2023, 05:06:01 PM
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I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.
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One thing I will say is you note you ride the DLX 8.25, which has a fairly short tail and Venture cast could make it feel sorta heavy. If you can find a cheap forged set do not abandon hope if cast don't fully work.

Also, I'm with you on not wanting to support NHS. I thought about getting Bronson Ceramics at one point, but didn't because they're under the distro. I am fine riding Thunder or Venture mostly because of the DLX umbrella and only was on Indys because I thought I skated better on them, but I don't.

nhs is pretty harsh.

i will have an occasional excellent session on indy’s. and then go back to not liking them, wait a few months/years and try them again, rinse and repeat.

thunders might work the easiest for me, ventures are my favorite.
i used to hate on forged baseplates, but skated some thunder 148s that are forged and loved them, looking forward to trying some venture hi’s with the forged plate.

main difference for me, in adjusting from indy to venture pop, is just moving my popping foot, further towards the tip, with ventures. ventures lend themselves to an excellent ollie, which is a trick i will always struggle with. i just don’t spend much time doing ollies.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on September 12, 2023, 06:28:06 PM
I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.

If it helps. It was an easier transition to ventures coming off Indy’s for me  than when I tried to transition to ventures from thunders. Not saying that ventures feel like Indy’s. But whe I tried  to go from thunders to venture I went back to thunder it felt too off and felt like i was wasting sessions trying to get used to it. But when i  went from Indy to venture by the end of the first session  I saw the light by the second or third I felt comfortable
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 12, 2023, 08:55:58 PM
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I ride Indys, and was on the fence about giving Venture another shot (it's been awhile). Then this morning I saw that NHS is doing a collab with Pokemon. I immediately ordered a set of 5.6. Fuck this NHS nonsense.
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One thing I will say is you note you ride the DLX 8.25, which has a fairly short tail and Venture cast could make it feel sorta heavy. If you can find a cheap forged set do not abandon hope if cast don't fully work.

Also, I'm with you on not wanting to support NHS. I thought about getting Bronson Ceramics at one point, but didn't because they're under the distro. I am fine riding Thunder or Venture mostly because of the DLX umbrella and only was on Indys because I thought I skated better on them, but I don't.
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The 8.25 has like an 8.5 tail, which is actually a tad longer than other common DLX tails (e.g. the 8.38. 8.4, and 8.5, which are like 8.437, IIRC). And don't worry...I got a set of both Cast Hollows and V-Hollows coming. Full Madness, let's roll. I hate NHS, but man, how I do like my Indys.
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That's not the case actually. The 8.25 has a 6.5, the 8.5 is 6.625, and my recent 8.4 was between 6.625 and 6.725. The 8.38 is also 6.68. I hate short tails so its the one measurement I always keep track of and the 8.25 is not my preferred deck because of its tail although I will ride them. My normal BBS 8.38 is only 6.675, which isn't much longer, but I vastly prefer it to the DLX 8.25 and will ride the 8.4 and 8.38 before I'd ride the 8.25.

Honestly the cast pop feel isn't insanely different from Indy. It has a slightly delayed timing and is a bit heavier, but I see why people make the comparison.
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My experience has been different. I measure every deck I get. Never once had an 8.38, 8.4, or 8.5 with a LONGER tail than the 8.25. The opposite, actually. I stopped riding those mostly because of that exact issue (well, I love 14.38wb, too)—I, also, hate short tails (even worse, when they are more rounded off). I look forward to trying Venture, again…but I have been down this road before…will anything be different this time around? TBA. I’ll certainly post a follow-up once I’ve spent some time on them.

I write them down as well and below is a pic of the tail measurement of my last 8.4. I rode one 2 months ago (Grimple coloring book one) and took measurement pics for a friend when I set it up. It has the same tail length as the "8.5", but a longer nose and is actually 14.25.

I've had 2 of these at different times and both measured the same. I no longer have the pics of my last 8.38, but rode 4 last year and they were all the same.

https://www.skatedeluxe.ch/en/anti-hero-grimplestix-on-vacation-8-38-skateboard-deck-multi_p158529?cPath=42&brand_id=103

These dudes are always accurate with measurements and confirm the tail is 6.625 on the 8.38, which is longer. I'll be going by a shop Thursday and can grab pics of that as well, but there is absolutely no DLX deck in 8.25 and above with a tail smaller than 6.5.

(https://i.imgur.com/nysBBly.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 12, 2023, 08:58:50 PM
am i the only one that likes short tails?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 12, 2023, 10:04:02 PM

These dudes are always accurate with measurements and confirm the tail is 6.625 on the 8.38, which is longer...

Skatedeluxe is certainly better than most other (e.g. Tactics) when it comes to accuracy. However, their site does contain errors. For one example, they list V-Hollows and V-Cast as having the same height (see links below).  I'd chalk a 6.625 claim ail as one of their mistakes, as it is wholly inconsistent with every 8.38 I've owned (which is not many, as it is one of my most hated DLX shapes).

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/venture-v-hollow-lights-all-polished-high-5-6-achse-silver-8-25_p131621?cPath=44&brand_id=98

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/venture-v-cast-hollow-kader-pro-5-6-achse-ravv-8-25_p161357?cPath=44&brand_id=98   
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 13, 2023, 06:51:28 AM
It's a stupid matter, but I'm heading to the shop tomorrow and will grab pics of the 8.25 and 8.38 as well. There's no way the 8.38 is under 6.5. I love that shape and can ride the Twin Tail just as well because it's the same exact tail but you get 2 of them. That one is consistently listed as 6.625.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on September 13, 2023, 07:28:56 AM
i'm so curious about these measurements now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 13, 2023, 07:35:27 AM
It's a stupid matter, but I'm heading to the shop tomorrow and will grab pics of the 8.25 and 8.38 as well. There's no way the 8.38 is under 6.5. I love that shape and can ride the Twin Tail just as well because it's the same exact tail but you get 2 of them. That one is consistently listed as 6.625.

When I mentioned under 6.5, I mean it was a tiny amounts here, like 1/16th under. The ones I had very well could have just been odd-ball/bad sand jobs. The 6.625 seems out there to me…that’s like that 8.125 shape. Anyway, I’m curious to see what you find/see.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 13, 2023, 09:45:59 AM
Third session on my first-ever Ventures. This time, an indoor park with all kinds of stuff from mannie pads and ditches to a miniramp and bigger transition. Smooth sailing. Not once did I feel like something was off with the trucks. I FEEL them.

In short: I fucking love these trucks. Prolly gonna get me an AWAKE t-shirt or something.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SupremePizza on September 13, 2023, 10:57:58 AM
am i the only one that likes short tails?

If FA 8.25 is considered short tail, then I think I enjoy short tails, at least compared to Girls 8.25. While the pop definitely feels heavy and more tiring, I find it very rewarding when I'm at my best
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 13, 2023, 11:24:19 AM
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It's a stupid matter, but I'm heading to the shop tomorrow and will grab pics of the 8.25 and 8.38 as well. There's no way the 8.38 is under 6.5. I love that shape and can ride the Twin Tail just as well because it's the same exact tail but you get 2 of them. That one is consistently listed as 6.625.
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When I mentioned under 6.5, I mean it was a tiny amounts here, like 1/16th under. The ones I had very well could have just been odd-ball/bad sand jobs. The 6.625 seems out there to me…that’s like that 8.125 shape. Anyway, I’m curious to see what you find/see.

Ya know, if you think about the difference in steepness between a I and IV and that we measure tail length as the base of a right triangle, the hypotenuse shortens the steeper the deck is and thus the base shortens as well. So, it is entirely possible that measuring straight across as we usually do would give different measurements.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 13, 2023, 12:10:57 PM
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It's a stupid matter, but I'm heading to the shop tomorrow and will grab pics of the 8.25 and 8.38 as well. There's no way the 8.38 is under 6.5. I love that shape and can ride the Twin Tail just as well because it's the same exact tail but you get 2 of them. That one is consistently listed as 6.625.
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When I mentioned under 6.5, I mean it was a tiny amounts here, like 1/16th under. The ones I had very well could have just been odd-ball/bad sand jobs. The 6.625 seems out there to me…that’s like that 8.125 shape. Anyway, I’m curious to see what you find/see.
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Ya know, if you think about the difference in steepness between a I and IV and that we measure tail length as the base of a right triangle, the hypotenuse shortens the steeper the deck is and thus the base shortens as well. So, it is entirely possible that measuring straight across as we usually do would give different measurements.

Was totally thinking exact same thing, too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: AlumarX on September 13, 2023, 12:15:17 PM
I bit the bullet on 8.2 v-lights to get the cast plate. Now I can mix and match.

My 7.75 cruiser is on Royals, is it worth being an idiot and putting venture los with 1/8 soft riser and dragons for asphalt crunching?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 13, 2023, 12:27:19 PM
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It's a stupid matter, but I'm heading to the shop tomorrow and will grab pics of the 8.25 and 8.38 as well. There's no way the 8.38 is under 6.5. I love that shape and can ride the Twin Tail just as well because it's the same exact tail but you get 2 of them. That one is consistently listed as 6.625.
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When I mentioned under 6.5, I mean it was a tiny amounts here, like 1/16th under. The ones I had very well could have just been odd-ball/bad sand jobs. The 6.625 seems out there to me…that’s like that 8.125 shape. Anyway, I’m curious to see what you find/see.
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Ya know, if you think about the difference in steepness between a I and IV and that we measure tail length as the base of a right triangle, the hypotenuse shortens the steeper the deck is and thus the base shortens as well. So, it is entirely possible that measuring straight across as we usually do would give different measurements.
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Was totally thinking exact same thing, too.

DLX- I love you, but your Roman Numerals are really fucking with my gear madness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on September 13, 2023, 12:41:15 PM
I bit the bullet on 8.2 v-lights to get the cast plate. Now I can mix and match.

My 7.75 cruiser is on Royals, is it worth being an idiot and putting venture los with 1/8 soft riser and dragons for asphalt crunching?

as an idiot myself, i have a cruiser setup like this and it's really fun
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 13, 2023, 02:20:17 PM
Any DLX boards thats rather mellow? I've had my 2nd session with V-hollows 5,8, and 8,5 Silva deck. It has basicly no fingers of flat, super hefty pop, I dident really like it with Thunder either...

Or other Venture friendly decks? :D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 13, 2023, 02:24:02 PM
Any DLX boards thats rather mellow? I've had my 2nd session with V-hollows 5,8, and 8,5 Silva deck. It has basicly no fingers of flat, super hefty pop, I dident really like it with Thunder either...

Or other Venture friendly decks? :D

DLX decks have Roman numerals on the top ply near the front trucks. “IV” is the flattest. “I” is the steepest. Go for an IV.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 13, 2023, 02:30:59 PM
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Any DLX boards thats rather mellow? I've had my 2nd session with V-hollows 5,8, and 8,5 Silva deck. It has basicly no fingers of flat, super hefty pop, I dident really like it with Thunder either...

Or other Venture friendly decks? :D
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DLX decks have Roman numerals on the top ply near the front trucks. “IV” is the flattest. “I” is the steepest. Go for an IV.

My Silva deck is an IV. 14.25 WB, 31.8 length. Very steep compared to most Polar decks ive tried.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 13, 2023, 02:46:30 PM
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Any DLX boards thats rather mellow? I've had my 2nd session with V-hollows 5,8, and 8,5 Silva deck. It has basicly no fingers of flat, super hefty pop, I dident really like it with Thunder either...

Or other Venture friendly decks? :D
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DLX decks have Roman numerals on the top ply near the front trucks. “IV” is the flattest. “I” is the steepest. Go for an IV.
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My Silva deck is an IV. 14.25 WB, 31.8 length. Very steep compared to most Polar decks ive tried.

If you have an IV, and it’s too steep, you’re fucked for DLX decks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 13, 2023, 04:20:08 PM
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Any DLX boards thats rather mellow? I've had my 2nd session with V-hollows 5,8, and 8,5 Silva deck. It has basicly no fingers of flat, super hefty pop, I dident really like it with Thunder either...

Or other Venture friendly decks? :D
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DLX decks have Roman numerals on the top ply near the front trucks. “IV” is the flattest. “I” is the steepest. Go for an IV.
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My Silva deck is an IV. 14.25 WB, 31.8 length. Very steep compared to most Polar decks ive tried.
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If you have an IV, and it’s too steep, you’re fucked for DLX decks.

i love krooked. it’s not what it once was, to me, but i’m always going to be a fan. and some of the newer skaters are very sick (jenson, eddy). i’m a gottwig fan. the graphics are not as magical as they used to be. or something.
anyways, the boards are almost always too much. too steep. i don’t like bbs.
occasionally there is the 7.8 eagle in an IV that is flat and perfect. but i’m just not into dlx boards anymore. despite them being the best, for a long moment.
right when kayo started, i loved those boards, also bbs (i didn’t know at the time, but it must be?) and they were noticeably more quality, than the competition, for that era.
blah blah.
dlx boards are never flat or mellow. imo.
if i wanted to support one company, for how they do it, as i understand it, it’d be dlx.

ventures are the shit, i like them most on mellow setups. a person with an opinion i value, was mentioning putting the lo’s on a steep board and liking it, so my curiosity is piqued
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 13, 2023, 05:55:47 PM
I've had plenty of very mellow DLX 8.38, 8.4, and 8.25 even.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 13, 2023, 06:10:15 PM
I've had plenty of very mellow DLX 8.38, 8.4, and 8.25 even.

^ I support this statement.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on September 13, 2023, 06:28:04 PM
I don’t know anything about tails but I usually skate the quasi proto shape (8.25/8.5, are the tails short on that shape?), w/ ventures. This summer I’ve been running the dlx 8.25 grey eagle w/ venture 5.8 cast. Little longer in the wb than the quasi but might be the best setup I’ve ever ridden. Everything’s been clicking all summer and I haven’t changed anything.

I’d say ventures w that shape is a good move if Indy’s aren’t doing it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jimgrude on September 13, 2023, 06:40:22 PM
I don’t know anything about tails but I usually skate the quasi proto shape (8.25/8.5, are the tails short on that shape?), w/ ventures. This summer I’ve been running the dlx 8.25 grey eagle w/ venture 5.8 cast. Little longer in the wb than the quasi but might be the best setup I’ve ever ridden. Everything’s been clicking all summer and I haven’t changed anything.

I’d say ventures w that shape is a good move if Indy’s aren’t doing it

The Quasi Proto tails can be as short as 6.4" for 8.5, and 6.3 for 8.25, which is quite short for these sizes. The wheelbase is also really short, at 14", but the noses are a decent length at 6.8".
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 13, 2023, 06:52:09 PM
I don’t know anything about tails but I usually skate the quasi proto shape (8.25/8.5, are the tails short on that shape?), w/ ventures. This summer I’ve been running the dlx 8.25 grey eagle w/ venture 5.8 cast. Little longer in the wb than the quasi but might be the best setup I’ve ever ridden. Everything’s been clicking all summer and I haven’t changed anything.

I’d say ventures w that shape is a good move if Indy’s aren’t doing it

I religiously ride DLX 8.25s (usually the grey eagle). I've been on Indys, but have 5.6 coming this week. I'm eager to try them out (e.g. I want to like them). Your comments have me excited.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 13, 2023, 06:59:01 PM
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It's a stupid matter, but I'm heading to the shop tomorrow and will grab pics of the 8.25 and 8.38 as well. There's no way the 8.38 is under 6.5. I love that shape and can ride the Twin Tail just as well because it's the same exact tail but you get 2 of them. That one is consistently listed as 6.625.
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When I mentioned under 6.5, I mean it was a tiny amounts here, like 1/16th under. The ones I had very well could have just been odd-ball/bad sand jobs. The 6.625 seems out there to me…that’s like that 8.125 shape. Anyway, I’m curious to see what you find/see.
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Ya know, if you think about the difference in steepness between a I and IV and that we measure tail length as the base of a right triangle, the hypotenuse shortens the steeper the deck is and thus the base shortens as well. So, it is entirely possible that measuring straight across as we usually do would give different measurements.
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Was totally thinking exact same thing, too.
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DLX- I love you, but your Roman Numerals are really fucking with my gear madness.


The funny thing is after flattening out a I or II it is often a very slightly longer board, which I like.  Sometimes the side to side concave of those boards is a bit much for me though, but I make do with whatever I have here.




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Any DLX boards thats rather mellow? I've had my 2nd session with V-hollows 5,8, and 8,5 Silva deck. It has basicly no fingers of flat, super hefty pop, I dident really like it with Thunder either...

Or other Venture friendly decks? :D
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DLX decks have Roman numerals on the top ply near the front trucks. “IV” is the flattest. “I” is the steepest. Go for an IV.
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My Silva deck is an IV. 14.25 WB, 31.8 length. Very steep compared to most Polar decks ive tried.



On the same topic of boards too steep, I often park on the kicks to flatten them out some, which makes things way easier for me to skate almost any board regardless of how steep it is (or DLX number stamp).

Others have posted clips of it and done similar things in the past and it does work, so if any board is too steep, lay it down graphic up, sit on cardboard or something on a flat even surface, gently drive on to the kick and park pretty much over bolts for a bit, depending on how steep it is and how much you want to flatten it out, eg half an hour most commonly for me, then do the other kick for the same time.  Let it sit for a day and then see how much difference it has made.

I can send you pics and clips of doing my own boards - almost all DLX boards, others too, but that is about the only way a board that is too steep will still skate well for me on any truck, especially Ventures which push the wheelbase out and into the kicks, which makes a regular board feel more steep, especially compared to on Indy or Ace trucks.

Just a thought anyway, as if you have a board that is just too steep to be comfortable to skate, at least you are not wasting anything by trying it.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 13, 2023, 08:24:33 PM
I've tried the parking thing twice and ruined both decks, never again.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 13, 2023, 09:11:12 PM
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I've had plenty of very mellow DLX 8.38, 8.4, and 8.25 even.
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^ I support this statement.


nah. ya’ll might have had dlx boards that were more mellow than other dlx boards, but that doesn’t mean those boards were mellow, compared to: a flat ps stix, pgi boards, control mfg, those dang mini logos….
bbs boards are just are not that flat/mellow
unless i’m not understanding the term mellow.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 13, 2023, 09:31:29 PM
I've tried the parking thing twice and ruined both decks, never again.

I tried three times, and I’m with Lebowski, won’t try it again.

First attempt resulted in kicks that were just they way I liked them. That’s promising, right? The problem was concave on rest of board (e.g. the middle) felt disproportionately steep and deep compared to the (now) flatter nose and tail. It’s a very strange disconnect that I couldn’t handle.

Second attempt ended with a warped deck because I didn’t park “straight enough” on the deck.

Final attempt ended with really disproportionate kick angles on nose and tail. At this point, I was like, “OK. You can’t get this work to your liking. Stop. Just spend the time to track down IV stamped decks.”
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 13, 2023, 09:35:12 PM
I had the flattest board on planet earth literally the kicks had a 1" gap between them and the IV I put on top. I tried riding it and was pissed I wasted $5 shop grip on it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 13, 2023, 11:21:17 PM

I religiously ride DLX 8.25s (usually the grey eagle). I've been on Indys, but have 5.6 coming this week. I'm eager to try them out (e.g. I want to like them). Your comments have me excited.

Interested to hear how the 5.6s go on a 14.38" wb.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 14, 2023, 12:15:56 AM
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I religiously ride DLX 8.25s (usually the grey eagle). I've been on Indys, but have 5.6 coming this week. I'm eager to try them out (e.g. I want to like them). Your comments have me excited.
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Interested to hear how the 5.6s go on a 14.38" wb.

Depends on the deck length, riding the Habitat 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.38 twin and it's been a dream. Previously swore that I'd only ride Ventures on 14 WB, 14.25 max, but I've ridden 6 of these in a row and haven't looked back.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 14, 2023, 12:43:47 AM
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I religiously ride DLX 8.25s (usually the grey eagle). I've been on Indys, but have 5.6 coming this week. I'm eager to try them out (e.g. I want to like them). Your comments have me excited.
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Interested to hear how the 5.6s go on a 14.38" wb.
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Depends on the deck length, riding the Habitat 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.38 twin and it's been a dream. Previously swore that I'd only ride Ventures on 14 WB, 14.25 max, but I've ridden 6 of these in a row and haven't looked back.

Good to hear! Relevant personal question: how tall are you?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 14, 2023, 01:21:47 AM
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I religiously ride DLX 8.25s (usually the grey eagle). I've been on Indys, but have 5.6 coming this week. I'm eager to try them out (e.g. I want to like them). Your comments have me excited.
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Interested to hear how the 5.6s go on a 14.38" wb.
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Depends on the deck length, riding the Habitat 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.38 twin and it's been a dream. Previously swore that I'd only ride Ventures on 14 WB, 14.25 max, but I've ridden 6 of these in a row and haven't looked back.
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Good to hear! Relevant personal question: how tall are you?

Short (king) - 170cm / 5'6 on the best of days
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 14, 2023, 01:43:44 AM
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I religiously ride DLX 8.25s (usually the grey eagle). I've been on Indys, but have 5.6 coming this week. I'm eager to try them out (e.g. I want to like them). Your comments have me excited.
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Interested to hear how the 5.6s go on a 14.38" wb.
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Depends on the deck length, riding the Habitat 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.38 twin and it's been a dream. Previously swore that I'd only ride Ventures on 14 WB, 14.25 max, but I've ridden 6 of these in a row and haven't looked back.
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Good to hear! Relevant personal question: how tall are you?
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Short (king) - 170cm / 5'6 on the best of days

Ok, thanks, this is good info as I'm 5'9 and been thinking that a 14.38" wb with Ventures (V-hollow, forged plate) would be too much for me physically. Also riding max 14.125 decks at the moment.

It's of course always a matter of getting used to stuff, but still.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 14, 2023, 06:54:12 AM
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I religiously ride DLX 8.25s (usually the grey eagle). I've been on Indys, but have 5.6 coming this week. I'm eager to try them out (e.g. I want to like them). Your comments have me excited.
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Interested to hear how the 5.6s go on a 14.38" wb.

I've been on Venture and 14.38 for a month and it's not what people fear. I'm 6 foot 3 and went to V lights and have some of my best flip tricks on them especially Tre flips. Great pop, great stability, great pinch, only weird part was pop timing for popping over large things and the manual point.

Been on the V Hollow for 3 sessions now and find the manual point is better, everything else is more or less the same. Plenty of Venture pros skate 14.38 and above on Ventures. The idea that you can only skate short WB with them started in here and with Ben Degros' personal preference.

Frankly I'm no longer convinced about the effective WB argument. I've had Indy standard, Indy Forged, Thunder standard, Thunder forged, and now both Venture variants on the same shape at one time or another. They all do something slightly better and something else slightly worse but for the most part it's in the margins. I am preferring more stable, less tall trucks now and actually like Venture over Indy forged for this wb because the pop feel isn't so light that my timing has to be very fast. I can also run em looser.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 14, 2023, 07:21:16 AM
^ Ben D. seems to like steep kicks, on shorter WB decks, with tall trucks (he likes cast Indys). That sounds like a nightmare to me. Effective wheelbase certainly changes the feel of some things, but 100% this “can’t ride Truck X with Wheelbase Y” is just…goofy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 14, 2023, 07:34:55 AM
He's been on Venture Low and Thunder forged on small, short decks for a while now I think he said 8-12mo in a video. But he often states he can't ride Venture cast in anything above 14 and prefers the forged.

I personally am not sure I'd even wanna ride 14.25 and smaller boards at my height.

I completely agree with your last statement. While running Ace Classic on an 8.5x14.38 Polar once felt like it had great pop and stability for me, I find that combo way less nimble to flip around than 8.38x14.38 on Venture
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on September 14, 2023, 07:56:04 AM
I personally am not sure I'd even wanna ride 14.25 and smaller boards at my height.

That's where I (6'2) have landed as well. Longer deck wheelbases give me more leeway in terms of foot positioning, whereas I need to really be on point with my foot placement to land stuff consistently on short wheelbases. I always put my feet too close to each other because I can't unlearn looking at my front bolts as my North Star in terms of foot placement.

Effective wheelbase seems to only affect me when it's too short. I run a whopping 17.9" effective wheelbase on my main setup and have no issues whatsoever, but everything below 17.5 starts to feel unstable and cramped really fast.

tl;dr: After putting an unreasonable amount of time and resources into figuring this shit out, I've come to terms with just riding what I like.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on September 14, 2023, 09:23:13 AM
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I personally am not sure I'd even wanna ride 14.25 and smaller boards at my height.
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That's where I (6'2) have landed as well. Longer deck wheelbases give me more leeway in terms of foot positioning, whereas I need to really be on point with my foot placement to land stuff consistently on short wheelbases. I always put my feet too close to each other because I can't unlearn looking at my front bolts as my North Star in terms of foot placement.

Effective wheelbase seems to only affect me when it's too short. I run a whopping 17.9" effective wheelbase on my main setup and have no issues whatsoever, but everything below 17.5 starts to feel unstable and cramped really fast.

tl;dr: After putting an unreasonable amount of time and resources into figuring this shit out, I've come to terms with just riding what I like.

It took a while, but I have realized that the truck height affects me more than the wheelbase.  I tried numerous times to ride Venture highs on a 14" wb, always felt cramped.  Venture lows on the 14" wb feel perfect - I'm 6'3".  I currently have the Venture highs on a Quasi with a 14.38 wb.  Feels awesome.  Whenever I put the lows on a 14.25" wb, no dice.  I guess there is so much that comes into play, and everyone likes something different.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 14, 2023, 10:47:41 AM
This might not make sense, but I have thought of what you pointed out. On the 14" WB your feet will probably be closer together. With a high truck that raises the fulcrum and thus the deck is at a pretty high angle before you slide your front foot up.

Take that same exact truck and stretch the WB out 3/8" and your foot is now lower relative to the end of the nose and its less extreme. Using a lower truck probably gets you closer to the front foot/rear foot differential and likely feels closer to your natural timing.

For me the Venture on 14.38 feels better than on 14.25 also because the deck is slightly longer and just gives me a bit more room relative to where the trucks are and that just lets me be more comfortable. Its not a massive difference in measurements, but I step on the board and it feels better. Even if something is "better" on the shorter board, I need to just focus on why that is and duplicate on the longer than worry about wheelbases. Yesterday I was focusing on doing dork tricks on a curb and a nollie back tail worked better on a 14.25/smaller deck when I came out of the trick. Turns out since it was shorter my front foot was more on the tip of the nose. Easy fix. I am sure other more complicated shit is the same.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on September 14, 2023, 11:07:32 AM
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I religiously ride DLX 8.25s (usually the grey eagle). I've been on Indys, but have 5.6 coming this week. I'm eager to try them out (e.g. I want to like them). Your comments have me excited.
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Interested to hear how the 5.6s go on a 14.38" wb.
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Depends on the deck length, riding the Habitat 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.38 twin and it's been a dream. Previously swore that I'd only ride Ventures on 14 WB, 14.25 max, but I've ridden 6 of these in a row and haven't looked back.
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Good to hear! Relevant personal question: how tall are you?
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Short (king) - 170cm / 5'6 on the best of days
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Ok, thanks, this is good info as I'm 5'9 and been thinking that a 14.38" wb with Ventures (V-hollow, forged plate) would be too much for me physically. Also riding max 14.125 decks at the moment.

It's of course always a matter of getting used to stuff, but still.

I’ve been riding the Black Eagle on forged 5.6s, and it’s really a staple for me. I’m 5’9” with long-ish legs.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 14, 2023, 11:46:52 AM
I have size 8 feet and long arms…..

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 14, 2023, 04:09:23 PM

My Silva deck is an IV. 14.25 WB, 31.8 length. Very steep compared to most Polar decks ive tried.

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I tried three times, and I’m with Lebowski, won’t try it again.

First attempt resulted in kicks that were just they way I liked them. That’s promising, right? The problem was concave on rest of board (e.g. the middle) felt disproportionately steep and deep compared to the (now) flatter nose and tail. It’s a very strange disconnect that I couldn’t handle.

Second attempt ended with a warped deck because I didn’t park “straight enough” on the deck.

Final attempt ended with really disproportionate kick angles on nose and tail. At this point, I was like, “OK. You can’t get this work to your liking. Stop. Just spend the time to track down IV stamped decks.”


Ha yeah it is not for everyone and takes a bit to work out how much, so if you parked on it too long and didn't really just try driving over it first, I can see how that would end up being a no go for you, along with making the board feel bad in various ways.

If you are not going to skate it because it is too steep to start with, then trying this is not so bad really.


Ventures definitely make steeper boards feel even steeper, but for some people, they really like that feel and get more out of the spring and pop higher.

Just down to what you might be used to and what you can adapt to, but also the lower trucks give a little more than the higher trucks too.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 14, 2023, 10:46:51 PM
I tried a Anti Hero Grant Taylor 8.38 with 14.5WB, and it was amazing with Thunders.
This Real Silva deck is just... something very odd with it. I dont even like it with Thunders, and I skate Thunders 90% of the time, with DLX decks.

I'll try a new board before I decide to retire from Venture, even tho I do rather enjoy them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 15, 2023, 06:46:16 AM
I didn't love that shape either. It's a bit on the short side for me and just felt a bit clunky. Like I never had great pop or flick.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 15, 2023, 12:11:41 PM
@LebowskisRug for some inexplicable reason, I actually bought an 8.38 today. Normally I don't like that shape, but some reason I was feeling it this afternoon, and wanted to try a 14.5wb. Anyway, mine has a 6.5 tail. I must have a bad rash of odd ball sanding or something with the other ones I had, and Skatedeluxe is def with a 6.6 claim, at least against the one I now have.

As to Ventures (to keep somewhat on topic), there has been a real debacle at TWO shops getting a hold of a pair. I'll post those details when I get them (eventually) and post a review/my thoughts on them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 15, 2023, 12:39:26 PM
@LebowskisRug for some inexplicable reason, I actually bought an 8.38 today. Normally I don't like that shape, but some reason I was feeling it this afternoon, and wanted to try a 14.5wb. Anyway, mine has a 6.5 tail. I must have a bad rash of odd ball sanding or something with the other ones I had, and Skatedeluxe is def with a 6.6 claim, at least against the one I now have.

As to Ventures (to keep somewhat on topic), there has been a real debacle at TWO shops getting a hold of a pair. I'll post those details when I get them (eventually) and post a review/my thoughts on them.

Stupid question- when you are measuring do you pull against the tape measure? I typically place the deck against the wall and push the tape against it or use my 48" ruler that has 1/32" increments, which matches that method.

It seems strange that its tough to get a set of basic Ventures in a normal size.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 15, 2023, 12:42:14 PM
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@LebowskisRug for some inexplicable reason, I actually bought an 8.38 today. Normally I don't like that shape, but some reason I was feeling it this afternoon, and wanted to try a 14.5wb. Anyway, mine has a 6.5 tail. I must have a bad rash of odd ball sanding or something with the other ones I had, and Skatedeluxe is def with a 6.6 claim, at least against the one I now have.

As to Ventures (to keep somewhat on topic), there has been a real debacle at TWO shops getting a hold of a pair. I'll post those details when I get them (eventually) and post a review/my thoughts on them.
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Stupid question- when you are measuring do you pull against the tape measure? I typically place the deck against the wall and push the tape against it or use my 48" ruler that has 1/32" increments, which matches that method.

It seems strange that its tough to get a set of basic Ventures in a normal size.

I use a straight ruler.

Yeah, it's been a super weird inventory mis-hap at two different shops.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on September 15, 2023, 12:46:06 PM
I'll normally start at the one inch mark just to be sure I get an accurate measurement.  I have definitely experienced a few dlx boards that had inconsistencies in the past.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on September 15, 2023, 12:53:24 PM
I've got a Krooked Cernicky in this shape and stamped IV I've been sitting on for a while now.  Just ran down and checked, tail does measure 6.6, but the wheelbase measures 14.625.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 15, 2023, 04:39:42 PM
This might not make sense, but I have thought of what you pointed out. On the 14" WB your feet will probably be closer together. With a high truck that raises the fulcrum and thus the deck is at a pretty high angle before you slide your front foot up.

Take that same exact truck and stretch the WB out 3/8" and your foot is now lower relative to the end of the nose and its less extreme. Using a lower truck probably gets you closer to the front foot/rear foot differential and likely feels closer to your natural timing.

For me the Venture on 14.38 feels better than on 14.25 also because the deck is slightly longer and just gives me a bit more room relative to where the trucks are and that just lets me be more comfortable. Its not a massive difference in measurements, but I step on the board and it feels better. Even if something is "better" on the shorter board, I need to just focus on why that is and duplicate on the longer than worry about wheelbases. Yesterday I was focusing on doing dork tricks on a curb and a nollie back tail worked better on a 14.25/smaller deck when I came out of the trick. Turns out since it was shorter my front foot was more on the tip of the nose. Easy fix. I am sure other more complicated shit is the same.


what you, and @Thebird are saying brings up this nagging feeling i’ve had about….i guess it’s leverage? i’ve always been a kook, putting together weird setups. what year did osiris come out? i (unfortunately) vividly remember skating in some of the first run osiris, tsa shorts….fuck. anyways, i had a gino chocolate board (i’m pretty sure all of these timelines match up, 98-99 ish) with indys, probably 129s, and then on a dare, some 60mm spitfires. i was able to ollie very high, for me. other rotational tricks were just a flick, meaning easier. at that time of my life, i was (i mean look at the outfit choices) fairly fucked up, and would skate and then not skate for awhile, so when i came back to it i’d just try something completely different.
example 2, much more recently, would be that girl shape that tapers from 8.25 to just above 8, short wb. i had it on ace classics and 56 conical fulls. again, flip tricks were shockingly easy (for one day): a switch heel was higher, and just needed a small amount of flick, before coming around.
in both instances, i was using short effective wb trucks, short wb’s, and tall wheels. and many things felt easier.

in general i don’t like huge wheels, i don’t like the weight. i hate when that shit hits me on the shins. i think it looks try hard, for me, because i’m usually found skating super slow trying some booty ass nollie flops, in a smooth ish parking lot. so i tend to set them up, and then quit big wheels, at the first sign of problems.

what you guys are speaking on, with the leverage, the height of trucks, wb, etc, just illuminated, to me, that there is so much i don’t know, and that effective wb combos are a load of crap.

there is something in here where wheel size, truck height, and length of nose and tail would seemingly factor in, but i dunno.

i love venture 5.0 lo’s on 14 and below wb’s, but haven’t really jived with cast venture hi’s on the same deck. maybe ya’ll have shown me why.

i’m really off of any solid ground on this rant. apologies
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 15, 2023, 04:50:29 PM
^ Skateboards are levers. Change the aspects of the lever, and shit will feel and behave differently.

I love that this thread has turned into The Madness 2.0 Thread. :).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 15, 2023, 08:38:26 PM
^ Skateboards are levers. Change the aspects of the lever, and shit will feel and behave differently.

I love that this thread has turned into The Madness 2.0 Thread. :).


hahaha fuck.
i need to stop ‘contributing’ to the thread with these very tangentially related rants.

i’ve said it before, but my screen name/presence here, might as well be ‘gear(/truck)madness’. i signed up to try and buy some used ti indy 149s because i just could not make the size up that the rippers had been doing.


back on track, as far as venture: i’ve got a buddy that was never flippy, he rode 8s, and above, in the late 90s, which wasn’t far off from basically being @benson for that time period. he’s since kept to riding big pools, 159s, etc. he wants to try and flip again, for a small
for him 8.5. venture 5.8s? i feel like ventures and thunders are great for flip tricks, but the VAST majority of my venture love comes from lo’s.
my recommendation was ventures and some
slightly smaller, thinner wheels.
true?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 16, 2023, 10:05:29 PM
there was some talk previously in the thread about westgate and gustavo both switching to hi’s…this true?

anyone know what nikolai is using for a setup?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on September 17, 2023, 12:43:27 AM
there was some talk previously in the thread about westgate and gustavo both switching to hi’s…this true?

anyone know what nikolai is using for a setup?

https://youtu.be/6Wknosv9pcI

yup, maybe it's better for contest skater at high speed, yuto saktes low's but his setup is stiff af, 60kg with bones hard, he's barely turing in all his footage.

and pj ladd moved to hi's recently, hmm..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 17, 2023, 01:21:26 AM
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there was some talk previously in the thread about westgate and gustavo both switching to hi’s…this true?

anyone know what nikolai is using for a setup?
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https://youtu.be/6Wknosv9pcI

yup, maybe it's better for contest skater at high speed, yuto saktes low's but his setup is stiff af, 60kg with bones hard, he's barely turing in all his footage.

and pj ladd moved to hi's recently, hmm..


thanks!

this pj ladd move to hi’s is wild to me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 17, 2023, 06:38:26 AM
It's really easy to spot high because the "wings" of the hanger get much more pronounced. I usually only know cuz I follow them on IG and when there's a video that features a good view of the hanger I pause and go "huh", then move on.

I wouldn't be surprised if they moved up to V Lights from lo.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 17, 2023, 08:23:35 AM
People seem to tinker a lot with the bushing setups on their Ventures.

I've had zero issues with the purple stock bushings on my 5.6 Hi V-Lights. They feel great, even after skating Aces and Indys for a long time.

Am I somehow in the minority?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 17, 2023, 08:27:22 AM
I think the vast majority of people are actually normal, they quietly buy things, use them as they were intended and don't talk about them....

none of them are here though....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 17, 2023, 08:29:18 AM
Had my 4th session Venture V-Hollows 5,8s today. I just cant do it. I nearly die from ghost popping many times. I do see the potential in these trucks tho.
I dident like this board with Thunder either, so it must be something odd going on with it. I'll try the trucks with a flatter deck next. Angle of pop with this board is 37 on the tail, and 36 on the nose, so when I use the nose its perfect.

Stock bushings for me is pretty perfect. I'm 185lbs, and prefer a medium. 1 thread showing on the kingpin

(https://i.imgur.com/Mt6Trm0.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 17, 2023, 08:31:04 AM
Had my 4th session Venture V-Hollows 5,8s today. I just cant do it. I nearly die from ghost popping many times. I do see the potential in these trucks tho.
I dident like this board with Thunder either, so it must be something odd going on with it. I'll try the trucks with a flatter deck next. Angle of pop with this board is 37 on the tail, and 36 on the nose, so when I use the nose its perfect.

Stock bushings for me is pretty perfect. I'm 185lbs, and prefer a medium. 1 thread showing on the kingpin

(https://i.imgur.com/Mt6Trm0.jpg)

What's the wb on your deck?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 17, 2023, 08:36:43 AM
i agree  mellower kicks ie. standard issue BBS board, should be better.....to me venture was the first truck where I really felt how dudes would talk about using the pocket to pop. 

Set up looks sick at least IMO...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 17, 2023, 08:37:27 AM
Its IV press, so mellowest, 8.5x 31.85, 14.25wb. I pretty much always skate 14.25, but in 8.25, so I dont understand... I skate with Thunder 8.25 too. But still... Dident like this deck on Thunder either, as mentioned. My theory is simple. Its a Mason deck, so you have to ride Indy's for it to work.

Oh so standard BBS decks are more mellow then the mellowest DLX? I do skate Polars frequently, as they are often on sale here. Do enjoy them alot
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 17, 2023, 08:44:49 AM
I'm prolly off on it but I alway skate all timers boards or shop boards which tend IMO to be less progressive than say a real board with kicks and concaves...

I don't totally buy the numbers theory in that I've pulled four III's off the wall and they are still pretty varied.....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on September 17, 2023, 08:46:14 AM
I think PJ posted some photo of couple sets of Venture lows this week with fuckwithyourtrucks tagged on it. Had some weird thing going on with axle nuts but i believe PJ still on lows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 17, 2023, 10:01:47 AM
I've always disliked that shape and I've skated it on everything but Venture. It's pretty short for the width if you measure it and I just don't get on with the kicks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 17, 2023, 10:02:56 AM
People seem to tinker a lot with the bushing setups on their Ventures.

I've had zero issues with the purple stock bushings on my 5.6 Hi V-Lights. They feel great, even after skating Aces and Indys for a long time.

Am I somehow in the minority?

Nah most people I know run stock it's just the top can shred fairly easily so some end up fucking with by default. DLX is great with warranty and I honestly just run flush with the nylock and never adjust them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 17, 2023, 11:03:50 AM
I've always disliked that shape and I've skated it on everything but Venture. It's pretty short for the width if you measure it and I just don't get on with the kicks.

Thanks! Thats good to know :D Wont be getting that shape again no... I recall skating a 8.28 Mason deck too. Wasent that happy with it either. Passport, Alltimers and Polar have been consistently good in 8.25s and 8.3
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 17, 2023, 01:19:35 PM
I think the vast majority of people are actually normal, they quietly buy things, use them as they were intended and don't talk about them....

none of them are here though....

I laughed. Hard. #truth
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 17, 2023, 01:47:57 PM
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I've always disliked that shape and I've skated it on everything but Venture. It's pretty short for the width if you measure it and I just don't get on with the kicks.
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Thanks! Thats good to know :D Wont be getting that shape again no... I recall skating a 8.28 Mason deck too. Wasent that happy with it either. Passport, Alltimers and Polar have been consistently good in 8.25s and 8.3

Sounds like you don't like short boards cuz the 8.28 is a really short one. I like the shapes from the brands you mentioned they are the generic BBS 8.38 a shit ton of brands and shops use.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 17, 2023, 03:06:08 PM
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I've always disliked that shape and I've skated it on everything but Venture. It's pretty short for the width if you measure it and I just don't get on with the kicks.
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Thanks! Thats good to know :D Wont be getting that shape again no... I recall skating a 8.28 Mason deck too. Wasent that happy with it either. Passport, Alltimers and Polar have been consistently good in 8.25s and 8.3


Do you get to go into shops and check concave or feel of them first, or buy online?

Just asking, because quite often a lot of those boards being four to a press can be a bit more varied, so finding a more mellow one is easier in person, if the shop has a good selection.

If they don't have many, or you are buying online, then it is a bit less of an option for you.


Also I feel like the 8.38 is always more mellow than the 8.5 or 8.25 board shapes, like they use a different press for those shapes, as it has a longer wheelbase, so it is the longer press which might also be used for wider boards too, but either way, the usual shorter boards often feel steeper overall to me and that is from having a lot of boards come through my hands.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 17, 2023, 06:48:39 PM
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People seem to tinker a lot with the bushing setups on their Ventures.

I've had zero issues with the purple stock bushings on my 5.6 Hi V-Lights. They feel great, even after skating Aces and Indys for a long time.

Am I somehow in the minority?
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Nah most people I know run stock it's just the top can shred fairly easily so some end up fucking with by default. DLX is great with warranty and I honestly just run flush with the nylock and never adjust them.

Stock bushings only, purple / red / green are best, white / black / blue and we may have to call the cops on you.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on September 17, 2023, 09:01:32 PM
I think PJ posted some photo of couple sets of Venture lows this week with fuckwithyourtrucks tagged on it. Had some weird thing going on with axle nuts but i believe PJ still on lows.


https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxR0xqdrIvM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
These footages are clearly hi's, and some more in is stories few days ago.
(https://i.ibb.co/xJcFZFd/Screenshot-20230918-120444.png) (https://ibb.co/xJcFZFd)
(https://i.ibb.co/njdYwxk/Screenshot-20230912-105940.png) (https://ibb.co/njdYwxk)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 17, 2023, 10:17:59 PM
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People seem to tinker a lot with the bushing setups on their Ventures.

I've had zero issues with the purple stock bushings on my 5.6 Hi V-Lights. They feel great, even after skating Aces and Indys for a long time.

Am I somehow in the minority?
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Nah most people I know run stock it's just the top can shred fairly easily so some end up fucking with by default. DLX is great with warranty and I honestly just run flush with the nylock and never adjust them.
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Stock bushings only, purple / red / green are best, white / black / blue and we may have to call the cops on you.


stock bushings are the best
but kinda hyped to try some indy bushings. but purps/maroon have always been correct, and obviously the green with the feather lights.

i like to leave my ventures stock. when people were more frequently making the change to venture, and then complaining about the turn, i often recommended a flat top washer, and/or bones bushings. i’ve done that in the past, but stock is my preferred.
fuckingupwithyourtrucks is cool and all, but hasn’t helped me for shit. trying to make a truck that has obvious, strong, characteristic, behave like a totally different brand truck, with opposing characteristics….that’s where folks lose the plot. you can make ventures loose, and they are super fun, never going to be an ace tho. thankfully.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 17, 2023, 11:24:41 PM
...i often recommended a flat top washer...

My 5.6s should be here in a day or two. I remember hearing about the flat washer before, but remind me the function/purpose of this? Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 18, 2023, 12:35:43 AM
What's the duro of the stock purples? I keep finding contradictory info online.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on September 18, 2023, 01:12:27 AM
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I think PJ posted some photo of couple sets of Venture lows this week with fuckwithyourtrucks tagged on it. Had some weird thing going on with axle nuts but i believe PJ still on lows.
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxR0xqdrIvM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
These footages are clearly hi's, and some more in is stories few days ago.
(https://i.ibb.co/xJcFZFd/Screenshot-20230918-120444.png) (https://ibb.co/xJcFZFd)
(https://i.ibb.co/njdYwxk/Screenshot-20230912-105940.png) (https://ibb.co/njdYwxk)
My bad, totally remembered those being lows
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 18, 2023, 02:34:33 AM
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I think PJ posted some photo of couple sets of Venture lows this week with fuckwithyourtrucks tagged on it. Had some weird thing going on with axle nuts but i believe PJ still on lows.
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxR0xqdrIvM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
These footages are clearly hi's, and some more in is stories few days ago.
(https://i.ibb.co/xJcFZFd/Screenshot-20230918-120444.png) (https://ibb.co/xJcFZFd)
(https://i.ibb.co/njdYwxk/Screenshot-20230912-105940.png) (https://ibb.co/njdYwxk)

What's he got there on the axle nuts? Allen nuts? What do you even call those? Looks epic.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on September 18, 2023, 06:24:41 AM
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...i often recommended a flat top washer...
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My 5.6s should be here in a day or two. I remember hearing about the flat washer before, but remind me the function/purpose of this? Thanks!
the stock washer tends to bind with the hanger. the flat washer doesn't and makes the trucks turn a bit more easily (at least in my experience)

i typically run ventures with stock bushings and a flat washer as long as possible until i need new bushings.
for replacements, i like the deluxe supercush bushings. indy bushings work too, the indy top bushing is just a bit taller than the venture stock top. currently running the blue indy tops (92A) and they seem to be more durable so far, but i'm also doing a lot less slappies since I've moved
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on September 18, 2023, 06:26:42 AM
What's the duro of the stock purples? I keep finding contradictory info online.
all stock bushings are 90A regardless of color
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 18, 2023, 09:38:01 AM
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...i often recommended a flat top washer...
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My 5.6s should be here in a day or two. I remember hearing about the flat washer before, but remind me the function/purpose of this? Thanks!
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the stock washer tends to bind with the hanger. the flat washer doesn't and makes the trucks turn a bit more easily (at least in my experience)

i typically run ventures with stock bushings and a flat washer as long as possible until i need new bushings.
for replacements, i like the deluxe supercush bushings. indy bushings work too, the indy top bushing is just a bit taller than the venture stock top. currently running the blue indy tops (92A) and they seem to be more durable so far, but i'm also doing a lot less slappies since I've moved


what they said. 

if i take a few boards to a spot, it does happen, and i switch back and forth between ace and venture lo’s, i notice the lack of turn in the lo’s, comparatively. ace, indy’s, they can feel fun carving about. if i never ollied/flipped, i’d probably just skate indy or ace, or a polarizer or something similar.
what i’m trying to get at, is that you can loosen ventures up quite a bit, but i prefer them medium, better pop. and i’m not slaloming. i am trying to nollie flip going a little faster.


stuck somewhere in the back of my brain was a comment i read in an old mag, something along the lines of carroll noticing howard because he had made his ventures super loose. blockhead time period. so rick was maybe still high school aged.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 18, 2023, 09:55:26 AM
I just like conical bushings and think I get a bit more response out of them which is fun….I’m a light guy.  Stock bushings everyone tells me are pretty good these days and I don’t doubt that…..this forum in a lot of ways isn’t reflective to how the real world works……
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 18, 2023, 10:15:22 AM
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...i often recommended a flat top washer...
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My 5.6s should be here in a day or two. I remember hearing about the flat washer before, but remind me the function/purpose of this? Thanks!
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the stock washer tends to bind with the hanger. the flat washer doesn't and makes the trucks turn a bit more easily (at least in my experience)

i typically run ventures with stock bushings and a flat washer as long as possible until i need new bushings.
for replacements, i like the deluxe supercush bushings. indy bushings work too, the indy top bushing is just a bit taller than the venture stock top. currently running the blue indy tops (92A) and they seem to be more durable so far, but i'm also doing a lot less slappies since I've moved

Thanks. Blue 92a is what I run in my Indys, btw.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 18, 2023, 11:10:11 AM
To be fair the exact same washer issue happens with every trucks and even Thunders shred bushings. Thunders for me and my friends have also had annoyingly flimsy washers that tend to bend, so if you do replace bushings good luck getting back to your old tightness without crank and bending the washer even more.

If you look at the stock Thunder and Venture top washer both are sort of sharp and hug the top of the bushing more. Ace and Indy seem to be more blunt/smooth with a bit of a gap. DLX should likely change the top washers they use at the very least.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on September 18, 2023, 12:37:34 PM
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I think PJ posted some photo of couple sets of Venture lows this week with fuckwithyourtrucks tagged on it. Had some weird thing going on with axle nuts but i believe PJ still on lows.
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxR0xqdrIvM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
These footages are clearly hi's, and some more in is stories few days ago.
(https://i.ibb.co/xJcFZFd/Screenshot-20230918-120444.png) (https://ibb.co/xJcFZFd)
(https://i.ibb.co/njdYwxk/Screenshot-20230912-105940.png) (https://ibb.co/njdYwxk)
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What's he got there on the axle nuts? Allen nuts? What do you even call those? Looks epic.

Must have threaded a hollow axle to accept those bolts. Wild. Not sure I'd trust that myself hah
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 18, 2023, 12:55:15 PM
To be fair the exact same washer issue happens with every trucks and even Thunders shred bushings. Thunders for me and my friends have also had annoyingly flimsy washers that tend to bend, so if you do replace bushings good luck getting back to your old tightness without crank and bending the washer even more.

If you look at the stock Thunder and Venture top washer both are sort of sharp and hug the top of the bushing more. Ace and Indy seem to be more blunt/smooth with a bit of a gap. DLX should likely change the top washers they use at the very least.

i think what i’ve noticed with ventures, more than other trucks, is the stock washer binding against the hanger, which limits the articulation. or something. the flat washer doesn’t do that.
turns out i don’t need to turn that much. just watched some william phan clips. that’s that shit i do like.


something about the thunder bushings and the thunder washers is antagonistic towards the lifespan of those bushings. but the trucks work really well so i stopped caring about it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 18, 2023, 06:27:50 PM
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...i often recommended a flat top washer...
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My 5.6s should be here in a day or two. I remember hearing about the flat washer before, but remind me the function/purpose of this? Thanks!
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the stock washer tends to bind with the hanger. the flat washer doesn't and makes the trucks turn a bit more easily (at least in my experience)

i typically run ventures with stock bushings and a flat washer as long as possible until i need new bushings.
for replacements, i like the deluxe supercush bushings. indy bushings work too, the indy top bushing is just a bit taller than the venture stock top. currently running the blue indy tops (92A) and they seem to be more durable so far, but i'm also doing a lot less slappies since I've moved
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Thanks. Blue 92a is what I run in my Indys, btw.


To be fair the exact same washer issue happens with every trucks and even Thunders shred bushings. Thunders for me and my friends have also had annoyingly flimsy washers that tend to bend, so if you do replace bushings good luck getting back to your old tightness without crank and bending the washer even more.

If you look at the stock Thunder and Venture top washer both are sort of sharp and hug the top of the bushing more. Ace and Indy seem to be more blunt/smooth with a bit of a gap. DLX should likely change the top washers they use at the very least.



Not sure about the newer aftermarket Indy bushings, but all the older ones that I use had much flatter washers compared to the stock ones, so I usually always use those and it pretty much sorts everything - the bushings that don't crumble or crack up and the washers that are not as deep so I have fewer issues with them biting the bushings, or binding on the hanger, etc.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Meathook on September 18, 2023, 06:53:17 PM
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...i often recommended a flat top washer...
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My 5.6s should be here in a day or two. I remember hearing about the flat washer before, but remind me the function/purpose of this? Thanks!
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the stock washer tends to bind with the hanger. the flat washer doesn't and makes the trucks turn a bit more easily (at least in my experience)

i typically run ventures with stock bushings and a flat washer as long as possible until i need new bushings.
for replacements, i like the deluxe supercush bushings. indy bushings work too, the indy top bushing is just a bit taller than the venture stock top. currently running the blue indy tops (92A) and they seem to be more durable so far, but i'm also doing a lot less slappies since I've moved
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Thanks. Blue 92a is what I run in my Indys, btw.
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To be fair the exact same washer issue happens with every trucks and even Thunders shred bushings. Thunders for me and my friends have also had annoyingly flimsy washers that tend to bend, so if you do replace bushings good luck getting back to your old tightness without crank and bending the washer even more.

If you look at the stock Thunder and Venture top washer both are sort of sharp and hug the top of the bushing more. Ace and Indy seem to be more blunt/smooth with a bit of a gap. DLX should likely change the top washers they use at the very least.
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Not sure about the newer aftermarket Indy bushings, but all the older ones that I use had much flatter washers compared to the stock ones, so I usually always use those and it pretty much sorts everything - the bushings that don't crumble or crack up and the washers that are not as deep so I have fewer issues with them biting the bushings, or binding on the hanger, etc.

I recently got new Indy 90a bushings and the washers were much slimmer than the stock washers.  It helped make up for the taller top bushing. 

I’m running them in 5.2 lows and they made the turn a bit smoother after blowing through a stock bottom bushing in a month.  I just hate the color, but I’ll get over it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 18, 2023, 07:26:07 PM
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I think PJ posted some photo of couple sets of Venture lows this week with fuckwithyourtrucks tagged on it. Had some weird thing going on with axle nuts but i believe PJ still on lows.
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CxR0xqdrIvM/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
These footages are clearly hi's, and some more in is stories few days ago.
(https://i.ibb.co/xJcFZFd/Screenshot-20230918-120444.png) (https://ibb.co/xJcFZFd)
(https://i.ibb.co/njdYwxk/Screenshot-20230912-105940.png) (https://ibb.co/njdYwxk)
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What's he got there on the axle nuts? Allen nuts? What do you even call those? Looks epic.
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Must have threaded a hollow axle to accept those bolts. Wild. Not sure I'd trust that myself hah


That makes sense.

I was looking at that thinking that would have been a real struggle, but if he has hollow axles, then it shouldn't be half as hard.  Also cutting off the extra axle that the nut is on would be mandatory too, so it is just the hex head bolt into the axle at the point the bearings with spacer room sits normally.


Silver or Grind King or maybe even some other brands have done this in the past, with similar things but I think this takes it to a much better level of tech and zero axle nut hits or shin bashes, compared to a regular board.

Given he would have a quantity of hangers, it would not be a problem if one of those bolts got stuck or something else happened to it, but for any other person, it might not be quite so comforting.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 19, 2023, 12:04:28 AM
I've been using Ace top washers in my Indys as they are mellower in design and don't eat up the top bushing like the sharp-edged Indy top washers tend to do especially when cranked.

But reading this thread and upon closer inspection on my Ventures I just noticed for the first time that the stock top washer actually almost touches the hanger. Hence the potential problem is not the bushing but the hanger. Probably a thing that every one who is awake is aware of, but this was new to me.

Thanks for pointing this out, will keep an eye on this. Got some spare Bones top washers, might try them out and see if it feels any different.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on September 19, 2023, 04:32:26 AM
I've been using Ace top washers in my Indys as they are mellower in design and don't eat up the top bushing like the sharp-edged Indy top washers tend to do especially when cranked.

But reading this thread and upon closer inspection on my Ventures I just noticed for the first time that the stock top washer actually almost touches the hanger. Hence the potential problem is not the bushing but the hanger. Probably a thing that every one who is awake is aware of, but this was new to me.

Thanks for pointing this out, will keep an eye on this. Got some spare Bones top washers, might try them out and see if it feels any different.

Yes, Flat top washer is a must have to unlock the full turning potential of your ventures. Riding them with stock washers feels like running with cuffs on your ankles.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: finecojeffe on September 19, 2023, 06:50:39 AM
recently picked up a set of 6.1. First set of ventures in almost 30 years for me. I really like them a lot for their pop and for flip tricks, however I did a few slappies and now I've got axle slip. I haven't had a truck with axle slip in so many years so I'm a little bummed on that. Hopefully it doesn't get too bad.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on September 19, 2023, 06:54:18 AM
recently picked up a set of 6.1. First set of ventures in almost 30 years for me. I really like them a lot for their pop and for flip tricks, however I did a few slappies and now I've got axle slip. I haven't had a truck with axle slip in so many years so I'm a little bummed on that. Hopefully it doesn't get too bad.

It's been said a bunch: DLX warranty is usually top notch. Definitely recommend reaching out to them, axle slip ought to be a thing of the past that we tell younger generations about to illustrate how tough we had it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: finecojeffe on September 19, 2023, 06:57:47 AM
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recently picked up a set of 6.1. First set of ventures in almost 30 years for me. I really like them a lot for their pop and for flip tricks, however I did a few slappies and now I've got axle slip. I haven't had a truck with axle slip in so many years so I'm a little bummed on that. Hopefully it doesn't get too bad.
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It's been said a bunch: DLX warranty is usually top notch. Definitely recommend reaching out to them, axle slip ought to be a thing of the past that we tell younger generations about to illustrate how tough we had it.
thanks for the tip! I haven't gone through the thread much so I wasn't aware of the DLX warranty facts
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on September 19, 2023, 06:59:18 AM
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recently picked up a set of 6.1. First set of ventures in almost 30 years for me. I really like them a lot for their pop and for flip tricks, however I did a few slappies and now I've got axle slip. I haven't had a truck with axle slip in so many years so I'm a little bummed on that. Hopefully it doesn't get too bad.
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It's been said a bunch: DLX warranty is usually top notch. Definitely recommend reaching out to them, axle slip ought to be a thing of the past that we tell younger generations about to illustrate how tough we had it.
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thanks for the tip! I haven't gone through the thread much so I wasn't aware of the DLX warranty facts

Sure thing! I wasn't taking a dig at you btw, just didn't want to make it sound like I was the first one to say that DLX got great customer service.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 19, 2023, 07:27:15 AM
Seconded on the DLX warranty and after-sales service, they may take a while to respond based on my last experience in 2021. The main email on the DLX is pretty fast (https://www.dlxsf.com/warranty/) or Cameron ([email protected]) but he may not be with DLX anymore, worth a shot.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: finecojeffe on September 19, 2023, 08:28:11 AM
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recently picked up a set of 6.1. First set of ventures in almost 30 years for me. I really like them a lot for their pop and for flip tricks, however I did a few slappies and now I've got axle slip. I haven't had a truck with axle slip in so many years so I'm a little bummed on that. Hopefully it doesn't get too bad.
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thanks for the tip! I haven't gone through the thread much so I wasn't aware of the DLX warranty facts
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Sure thing! I wasn't taking a dig at you btw, just didn't want to make it sound like I was the first one to say that DLX got great customer service.
i took it as you giving me a tip, not in any negative way at all. It is appreciated.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 19, 2023, 11:59:07 AM
Let us know how it goes….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 19, 2023, 01:53:38 PM
When my last set of bushings shit the bed it took less than a week to get new ones at my door. If you want to speed up the process be sure to email them with a picture of the issue, detailed description, where you bought the trucks/receipts, as well as when you bought them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 19, 2023, 03:45:37 PM
another reason to support dlx.


i haven’t had a venture truck problem, since ….feather lights.
in that time i’ve had the breaking baseplates with indys, axle slip with indys, bent axle with indys. and a fair amount of small problems with ace.
in my head, indys are still the strongest tho, they just had a few runs of spotty mfg, long ago.


those feather lights tho….loved em, but between those and the world industries boards, something was gonna break that day
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: finecojeffe on September 20, 2023, 07:46:18 AM
I'm not really sure how to photograph the issue. It wasn't slipping horribly, just the once and I tapped it back in. But I guess I should try a few more slappies to see if the problem repeats itself. I guess i could send a small video in email. Honestly though if it doesn't get worse, I'm lazy enough to not follow up, and might just probably toss some wheel spacers in to limit further slip.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 20, 2023, 01:40:33 PM
Had a session with a Polar deck I had laying around. A little worn, 8.25 with 14.125WB (which is a lie, its 14.25). Huge difference. It give's me 36 degrees angle of pop, which is what I usually have. No more ghost pop!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 20, 2023, 06:24:07 PM
Had a session with a Polar deck I had laying around. A little worn, 8.25 with 14.125WB (which is a lie, its 14.25). Huge difference. It give's me 36 degrees angle of pop, which is what I usually have. No more ghost pop!

That's what made me love Ventures and start my Goldilocks setup quest. Fitted some Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Low on a deck that was 1/2 way through it's life and the trucks instantly revived the pop, landed my best kickflips at the time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 20, 2023, 06:48:10 PM
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recently picked up a set of 6.1. First set of ventures in almost 30 years for me. I really like them a lot for their pop and for flip tricks, however I did a few slappies and now I've got axle slip. I haven't had a truck with axle slip in so many years so I'm a little bummed on that. Hopefully it doesn't get too bad.
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thanks for the tip! I haven't gone through the thread much so I wasn't aware of the DLX warranty facts

What wheels are you on? I recently had issues and it turns out the bearing seats in my F4 were not to spec and it caused jamming.

Take the wheels off, mark the axles right next to hanger, tap on ground a bunch and see if the mark moves into the hanger.

Almost all trucks have washer/hanger bind especially Venture and Thunder. I personally am tall and don't need a Bones washer to get a good Venture turn I just lean harder.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on September 20, 2023, 07:49:54 PM
Had a session with a Polar deck I had laying around. A little worn, 8.25 with 14.125WB (which is a lie, its 14.25). Huge difference. It give's me 36 degrees angle of pop, which is what I usually have. No more ghost pop!


How does the Polar deck compare to the DLX deck in terms of where the kicks are in relation to the drilled holes, or are they the same press by the look of it, or is one board longer in the middle flat than the other?

I have noticed that boards that are shorter in the middle flat area are often difficult for me to skate, whereas boards that are longer in the middle flat area are easier to skate, even with steeper kicks.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 20, 2023, 11:06:01 PM
Middle flat?
It's a typical Polar 8.25. Ive skated a bunch of those, as Polar decks are often on sale here.
Wheel base is suppose to be 14.125, but its actually more like... 8.27-8.3, and length is more like 32, instead of 31.875.
The Real Mason deck has steeper kicks, and they start almost immediately after the bolts, pretty much. Not fingers of flat friendly :D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 20, 2023, 11:33:24 PM
Had a session with a Polar deck I had laying around. A little worn, 8.25 with 14.125WB (which is a lie, its 14.25). Huge difference. It give's me 36 degrees angle of pop, which is what I usually have. No more ghost pop!

Dude I had the same experience with Polar. Ordered a 8.25 Shin Sanbongi deck from Skatedeluxe 'cause they had the wb listed as 14.125. Well, it turned out to be 14.25 and I was like f*** this. But maybe I'll try it with my 5.6 Hi V-Lights and see how it goes. The total wheelbase is like 14.65 which is a lot for me, but I dunno, maybe it can work. Good to hear it works for you.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 20, 2023, 11:43:55 PM
Yeah... I've never had a Polar 8.25 deck with 14.125WB, and ive had a few... :D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: finecojeffe on September 21, 2023, 05:34:54 AM
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recently picked up a set of 6.1. First set of ventures in almost 30 years for me. I really like them a lot for their pop and for flip tricks, however I did a few slappies and now I've got axle slip. I haven't had a truck with axle slip in so many years so I'm a little bummed on that. Hopefully it doesn't get too bad.
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thanks for the tip! I haven't gone through the thread much so I wasn't aware of the DLX warranty facts
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What wheels are you on? I recently had issues and it turns out the bearing seats in my F4 were not to spec and it caused jamming.

Take the wheels off, mark the axles right next to hanger, tap on ground a bunch and see if the mark moves into the hanger.

Almost all trucks have washer/hanger bind especially Venture and Thunder. I personally am tall and don't need a Bones washer to get a good Venture turn I just lean harder.
on some spit f4 55mm classics that i've had for a while and used on other trucks without any issues. To be fair I'm riding these ventures tighter than I ride other trucks though, in which case I usually ride my trucks pretty loose (aces and thunders have been my go-to in recent times.) I set these up tighter to get that old feeling from the last time i have ventures, which was I think 1993, or possibly 94. It's possible how hard I jammed the truck into the curb I could have caused other trucks to slip but they never had the chance due to how loose I've kept the others.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on September 22, 2023, 01:52:17 PM
Yo a humble request. If anyone got the dlx lowering kit and didn't enjoy it plz send it to me.

My soul is dying rn. Idk if I can go back.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Badandoldskater on September 22, 2023, 05:39:42 PM
Bushing colors doesn’t matter right for ventures ? All the same durometer ?
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Post by: iw0 on September 22, 2023, 05:55:55 PM
Bushing colors doesn’t matter right for ventures ? All the same durometer ?
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What's the duro of the stock purples? I keep finding contradictory info online.
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all stock bushings are 90A regardless of color


petition to change the thread title to "Venture 2020: all stock bushings are 90A regardless of color"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Badandoldskater on September 23, 2023, 04:32:45 AM
It’s so deceiving cuz i got white bushings and i feel like it softer
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Post by: iw0 on September 23, 2023, 07:53:02 AM
It’s so deceiving cuz i got white bushings and i feel like it softer

don't make me tap the sign
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Post by: Ok on September 23, 2023, 09:08:03 AM
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It’s so deceiving cuz i got white bushings and i feel like it softer
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don't make me tap the sign

THANK YOU
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on September 23, 2023, 09:45:14 AM
Real shit though I’ve had a set of ventures within the last couple years that came with the white bushings and they did feel softer than the clear ones (green and purple felt the same, so I’d assume clear red does too). The only reason I’d lend credence to this is I’ve put this set of bushings in a couple sets of ventures and they felt softer.

Same thing when I was younger w thunders, the white ones always felt softer than the clear yellow ones the raws would come with, even though they were the same.

Also if anyone has a set of Indy’s laying around rip the bushings and washers out and your ventures will be looser, I tried it recently and didn’t like it. I like mine plain stock w the stock green/purple/clearish bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 24, 2023, 01:13:29 AM
Rode my 5.6 Hi V-Lights yesterday with a 8.125 / 14.25 wb deck. I'd only ridden them with a 13.88" wb deck before that, which felt good.

Was worried about the added wheelbase beforehand, but after 5-10 minutes of adjusting I found the setup pretty damn awesome. No complaints whatsoever -- on the contrary. Ollies/pop felt stable, turning was good, the grinds were there. There's just an overall good vibe to the trucks for me. I guess I'm Awake?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 24, 2023, 06:57:58 AM
Rode my 5.6 Hi V-Lights yesterday with a 8.125 / 14.25 wb deck. I'd only ridden them with a 13.88" wb deck before that, which felt good.

Was worried about the added wheelbase beforehand, but after 5-10 minutes of adjusting I found the setup pretty damn awesome. No complaints whatsoever -- on the contrary. Ollies/pop felt stable, turning was good, the grinds were there. There's just an overall good vibe to the trucks for me. I guess I'm Awake?

Yes sir, welcome aboard to the wokest truck brand in skateboarding.

(https://www.activerideshop.com/cdn/shop/products/venture-awake-t-shirt-white-orange-green_600x.webp?v=1677156584)

Lost count but this is my 6th Venture t-shirt.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 24, 2023, 07:15:33 AM
So, my Ventures came at the end of last week. Ended up with the 5.6 Skate Jawn cast hollows (those trucks are beautiful, IMHO), and 5.6 Titaniums w/forged plate. I had ordered V-Hollows, but my local was out of them, and swapped out Titaniums for me (web site said they had v-hollows in stock when I ordered).

I tried the V-Cast Hollows first. I am coming off Forged Indys, and the Casts felt too high for me. Turn wasn't bad, but I did not like the height/pop feel at all. Then I tried the forged plates w/Jawn hanger, and that height felt much better. It started raining about an hour later, and hasn't stopped since (and will be until mid-week), so I haven't been able to spend serious time on them, yet. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on September 24, 2023, 08:27:46 AM
I tried the V-Cast Hollows first. I am coming off Forged Indys, and the Casts felt too high for me. Turn wasn't bad, but I did not like the height/pop feel at all. Then I tried the forged plates w/Jawn hanger, and that height felt much better. It started raining about an hour later, and hasn't stopped since (and will be until mid-week), so I haven't been able to spend serious time on them, yet.

??? You created the same height truck with your frankentrucking, good sir.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 24, 2023, 08:46:36 AM
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I tried the V-Cast Hollows first. I am coming off Forged Indys, and the Casts felt too high for me. Turn wasn't bad, but I did not like the height/pop feel at all. Then I tried the forged plates w/Jawn hanger, and that height felt much better. It started raining about an hour later, and hasn't stopped since (and will be until mid-week), so I haven't been able to spend serious time on them, yet.
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??? You created the same height truck with your frankentrucking, good sir.

Hanger heights are different across Venture? I was under the impression that height differences (aside from the High / Lows) in them was in baseplate height (like almost every other brand). Can someone clarify?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 24, 2023, 09:16:11 AM
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I tried the V-Cast Hollows first. I am coming off Forged Indys, and the Casts felt too high for me. Turn wasn't bad, but I did not like the height/pop feel at all. Then I tried the forged plates w/Jawn hanger, and that height felt much better. It started raining about an hour later, and hasn't stopped since (and will be until mid-week), so I haven't been able to spend serious time on them, yet.
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??? You created the same height truck with your frankentrucking, good sir.
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Hanger heights are different across Venture? I was under the impression that height differences (aside from the High / Lows) in them was in baseplate height (like almost every other brand). Can someone clarify?

All forged and cast baseplates are the same height with cast being roughly 1.5mm taller.

When it comes to Low and Hi trucks the difference in height is due to the hanger, which is why you see more variations of the 5.0 / 5.2 (Low / Hi, cast / forged) and fewer on 5.6 and above (Hi, cast / forged).
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Post by: Sedition on September 24, 2023, 09:22:58 AM
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I tried the V-Cast Hollows first. I am coming off Forged Indys, and the Casts felt too high for me. Turn wasn't bad, but I did not like the height/pop feel at all. Then I tried the forged plates w/Jawn hanger, and that height felt much better. It started raining about an hour later, and hasn't stopped since (and will be until mid-week), so I haven't been able to spend serious time on them, yet.
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??? You created the same height truck with your frankentrucking, good sir.
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Hanger heights are different across Venture? I was under the impression that height differences (aside from the High / Lows) in them was in baseplate height (like almost every other brand). Can someone clarify?
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All forged and cast baseplates are the same height with cast being roughly 1.5mm taller.

When it comes to Low and Hi trucks the difference in height is due to the hanger, which is why you see more variations of the 5.0 / 5.2 (Low / Hi, cast / forged) and fewer on 5.6 and above (Hi, cast / forged).

So, I was correct then, and @hiljentaa was wrong. A standard 5.6 hanger will result in a different height truck contingent upon which baseplate it is paired with (e.g. Cast vs. Forged).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 24, 2023, 10:23:50 AM
At 53 on the dot the ones you find too high are technically half a MM shorter than your Indy's.

I like the forged a lot but they do push my wheels out a tad too much on the decks I like so I haven't committed to them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 24, 2023, 10:46:00 AM
Is forged vs cast that noticeable?
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Post by: hiljentaa on September 24, 2023, 10:49:33 AM
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I tried the V-Cast Hollows first. I am coming off Forged Indys, and the Casts felt too high for me. Turn wasn't bad, but I did not like the height/pop feel at all. Then I tried the forged plates w/Jawn hanger, and that height felt much better. It started raining about an hour later, and hasn't stopped since (and will be until mid-week), so I haven't been able to spend serious time on them, yet.
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??? You created the same height truck with your frankentrucking, good sir.
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Hanger heights are different across Venture? I was under the impression that height differences (aside from the High / Lows) in them was in baseplate height (like almost every other brand). Can someone clarify?
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All forged and cast baseplates are the same height with cast being roughly 1.5mm taller.

When it comes to Low and Hi trucks the difference in height is due to the hanger, which is why you see more variations of the 5.0 / 5.2 (Low / Hi, cast / forged) and fewer on 5.6 and above (Hi, cast / forged).
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So, I was correct then, and @hiljentaa was wrong. A standard 5.6 hanger will result in a different height truck contingent upon which baseplate it is paired with (e.g. Cast vs. Forged).

Lmao I didn't register the other set were cast hollows. Too many truck variations. Good luck with your Ventures!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 24, 2023, 10:50:32 AM
At 53 on the dot the ones you find too high are technically half a MM shorter than your Indy's.

I like the forged a lot but they do push my wheels out a tad too much on the decks I like so I haven't committed to them.

Cast felt too tall. Forged felt better. That's all I got, and all I need.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 24, 2023, 10:54:28 AM
Is forged vs cast that noticeable?

I've tried standard, forged, and mIndys. All different heights. I notice it. As others have also said ad nauseam, cast vs. forged plates also just "feel" different in terms of how vibrations reverberate through your set-up.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 24, 2023, 11:00:14 AM
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I've tried standard, forged, and mIndys. All different heights. I notice it. As others have also said ad nauseam, cast vs. forged plates also just "feel" different in terms of how vibrations reverberate through your set-up.

Yeah the height is one thing, but the added wheelbase from the forged. They should have almost equal angle of pop then, but the longer wheelbase will require more power
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on September 24, 2023, 03:48:28 PM
I made the transition from thunder teams to vemtures and I liked the forged…..a closer height, lighter options….

To me forged just look shittier….maybe felt different but it could be koo…koo…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 24, 2023, 05:57:01 PM
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I've tried standard, forged, and mIndys. All different heights. I notice it. As others have also said ad nauseam, cast vs. forged plates also just "feel" different in terms of how vibrations reverberate through your set-up.
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Yeah the height is one thing, but the added wheelbase from the forged. They should have almost equal angle of pop then, but the longer wheelbase will require more power

Cast baseplates add 3.25" to the wheelbase, forged add 3.5".

I don't feel the height as much on the baseplate, but the shortening of nose and tail because of how much it shifts the wheels outwards.

You really start feeling the height when you start riding the 5.2 LO and LO forged which drop below 50mm, amazing pinch on grinds but at the expense of wheelbite. Never felt more locked in on a Crooked grind that I have with the 5.2 LO forged.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 24, 2023, 11:36:59 PM
Anyone seen this tho? Is it forged or cast he measured?
He says its 1mm shorter wheelbase than Thunder. Which could also be bushings thats gone bust, or tightened... whatever...
Also, are cast ventures suppose to be 53,5 or 55mm tall? 55mm just pops up in my head all the time... As I thought cast was 55, and forged 53,5. If cast is 53,5, then i'll get those for sure :D I hate indy's 55mm height...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWgKmYqGEHk&t=427s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on September 25, 2023, 04:45:18 AM
Anyone seen this tho? Is it forged or cast he measured?
He says its 1mm shorter wheelbase than Thunder. Which could also be bushings thats gone bust, or tightened... whatever...
Also, are cast ventures suppose to be 53,5 or 55mm tall? 55mm just pops up in my head all the time... As I thought cast was 55, and forged 53,5. If cast is 53,5, then i'll get those for sure :D I hate indy's 55mm height...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWgKmYqGEHk&t=427s
rocklobster's sig is a good reference

Venture Truck Height:

5.0 & 5.2 LO
STANDARD - 1.88” - 47.75mm
FORGED - 1.85”- 46.99mm

5.0 ,5.2, 5.6, 5.8 & 6.1 HI
STANDARD - 2.09” - 53.09mm
FORGED - 2.04” - 51.82m
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on September 25, 2023, 07:20:52 AM
don't go down the rabbit hole
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 25, 2023, 07:33:01 AM
I've measured Thunder and Venture cast recently and it would be close to 1mm I could not really see a substantial difference, which runs counter to a lot of what is on this forum regarding WB. I lined up both trucks at the baseplate holes and measured both axles from a fixed distance and averaged.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 25, 2023, 07:35:54 AM
I'll try some Venture's with cast then :D It might be the thing that fixes my issues with V-Hollows heftyness. I was under the impression that casts were 55mm tall so... Which is why I got the V-Hollows. And also because they were on sale.

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on September 25, 2023, 07:39:59 AM
I'll try some Venture's with cast then :D It might be the thing that fixes my issues with V-Hollows heftyness. I was under the impression that casts were 55mm tall so... Which is why I got the V-Hollows. And also because they were on sale.

Thanks guys!

Define heftiness in this case? The wb effect is not as drastic as the Illuminati wants you to believe.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 25, 2023, 07:57:49 AM
I'll try some Venture's with cast then :D It might be the thing that fixes my issues with V-Hollows heftyness. I was under the impression that casts were 55mm tall so... Which is why I got the V-Hollows. And also because they were on sale.

Thanks guys!

I measured height my cast and forged when they came. Forged were about a 1mm lower. Had 53mm-ish for cast, and 52mm-ish for forged.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on September 25, 2023, 08:04:44 AM
Its complicated. It was a "stupid" buy. My main is 8.25-8.38 with Thunder 148 std. I got this idea to try 8.5 decks. Bought a Real board I hate, and then bought these Venture 5.8s on sale because why not? They were 50% off! I also thought Venture casts wore 55mm tall, which I hate. Hence I got the V-Hollows. Dident like them on that Real deck. Put them on my main deck, which is a Polar 8.25, and I do quite enjoy that. But there is some heft to it compared to my Thunders. I also dislike having wider trucks then board, so I dont mind getting a pair of 5.6s. Got a Alltimers 8.3 on its way. I'll see how they are on that. Not skated them with a new board.

The Real deck worked pretty good with Indy's, just like I expected. Mason Silva skates Indy, duh :D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 25, 2023, 08:18:22 AM
Its complicated. It was a "stupid" buy. My main is 8.25-8.38 with Thunder 148 std. I got this idea to try 8.5 decks. Bought a Real board I hate, and then bought these Venture 5.8s on sale because why not? They were 50% off! I also thought Venture casts wore 55mm tall, which I hate. Hence I got the V-Hollows. Dident like them on that Real deck. Put them on my main deck, which is a Polar 8.25, and I do quite enjoy that. But there is some heft to it compared to my Thunders. I also dislike having wider trucks then board, so I dont mind getting a pair of 5.6s. Got a Alltimers 8.3 on its way. I'll see how they are on that. Not skated them with a new board.

The Real deck worked pretty good with Indy's, just like I expected. Mason Silva skates Indy, duh :D

this isn’t really here or there, but for me, ventures can feel ‘larger’ than their same sized indy counterparts. this only bothers me, when i’m skating a larger setup, that is already too big for me. maybe this is all bs in my head. when folks around me went from 5.0 lo’s and 7.5-7.75s, in the early early ish 2000s, to 8s, most went with indy 139s.
anyways, carry on.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sedition on September 25, 2023, 08:18:24 AM
Its complicated. It was a "stupid" buy. My main is 8.25-8.38 with Thunder 148 std. I got this idea to try 8.5 decks. Bought a Real board I hate, and then bought these Venture 5.8s on sale because why not? They were 50% off! I also thought Venture casts wore 55mm tall, which I hate. Hence I got the V-Hollows. Dident like them on that Real deck. Put them on my main deck, which is a Polar 8.25, and I do quite enjoy that. But there is some heft to it compared to my Thunders. I also dislike having wider trucks then board, so I dont mind getting a pair of 5.6s. Got a Alltimers 8.3 on its way. I'll see how they are on that. Not skated them with a new board.

The Real deck worked pretty good with Indy's, just like I expected. Mason Silva skates Indy, duh :D

All of this is far too…relatable. :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 27, 2023, 07:38:33 PM
I know we say stock is boss but I got a touch of bushing madness setting in - thinking if I should go medium hard 92a (Indy blue) or just tighten my kingpin a little. My red stock bushings are fully broken in and cracked in some areas, still fully functional.

A friend tried my board and noticed my truck would slant to 1 side occasionally before popping. It's helpful for some tricks like FS Flips but on tricks I'm less confident on (BS Flips / 360 flips) I'm more likely to whiff and ghost pop. I noticed for kickflips I have to pressure directly down and be perfectly balanced before popping, but my kickflips are all or nothing. Either knee height and caught nicely, or flopping barely off the ground, nothing in between like a controlled shin high one. Also I can't fakie flip without almost credit carding myself, fakie FS flip is fine.

I'm probably overthinking this.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 27, 2023, 08:54:06 PM
When you fakie flip push your popping foot forward harder and delay the flick. My fakie flips are my best flip trick and I push my foot almost like a >. Back foot covering the first 2 bolts and a bit more towards the middle and basically fakie ollie timing and flicking when the rear foot is on its way up.

So ya, think about the trick more than your trucks. I'm definitely not the one to talk, but finally coming around the madness corner.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 27, 2023, 09:35:32 PM
fakie frontside, and frontside flips, are really difficult for me. backside flips too. shit.

i used to feel very confident with fakie flips. one of the few tricks i’d be genuinely surprised/possibly upset if i didn’t land it. now, everything is a hope and a prayer.
i like the trick tip.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on September 27, 2023, 09:58:44 PM
When you fakie flip push your popping foot forward harder and delay the flick. My fakie flips are my best flip trick and I push my foot almost like a >. Back foot covering the first 2 bolts and a bit more towards the middle and basically fakie ollie timing and flicking when the rear foot is on its way up.

So ya, think about the trick more than your trucks. I'm definitely not the one to talk, but finally coming around the madness corner.

Yeah it was more the fakie flips that got me thinking about bushing hardness, I'll do the rational thing and tighten up a 1/4 turn before I decide to indulge in bushing madness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 27, 2023, 10:10:03 PM
I just wish my nollie flips were half as good as fakie flips and I didn't have to blame my bummed ankle
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 27, 2023, 11:33:15 PM
I just wish my nollie flips were half as good as fakie flips and I didn't have to blame my bummed ankle


my nollie flips have always been really pedal push. it’s one of the few tricks i learned, when it was kind of cool. most of the other tricks i couldn’t keep up with. i rarely get a real deep flick.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on September 28, 2023, 12:30:59 AM
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I just wish my nollie flips were half as good as fakie flips and I didn't have to blame my bummed ankle
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nollie flips are still cool

my nollie flips have always been really pedal push. it’s one of the few tricks i learned, when it was kind of cool. most of the other tricks i couldn’t keep up with. i rarely get a real deep flick.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on September 28, 2023, 12:57:07 AM
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I just wish my nollie flips were half as good as fakie flips and I didn't have to blame my bummed ankle
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nollie flips are still cool

my nollie flips have always been really pedal push. it’s one of the few tricks i learned, when it was kind of cool. most of the other tricks i couldn’t keep up with. i rarely get a real deep flick.
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ha, true. my fault there.
what i was trying to say, is i first learned them, in (aging myself here) 1994. i think. i felt current.
being old, i think about this kind of crap. in truth, people had been doing nollie flips for years, i wasn’t current.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PuffinMuffin on September 30, 2023, 09:36:38 AM
Yo a humble request. If anyone got the dlx lowering kit and didn't enjoy it plz send it to me.

My soul is dying rn. Idk if I can go back.

I was feeling the same. Ground the fuck out of my nuts this morning, they're now ~2.5mm shorter so my trucks can be really loose without ordering the Venture low bushings to faraway lands. Cost €0. Trashed the metal file, but I stole that when I was working for Nestle. Haha, fuck you Nestle, I can not be doxxed.

(https://i.imgur.com/QWrnDMxh.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 30, 2023, 10:49:40 AM
For cheaper than trashing a file you can just order "low profile nylock nuts". I am seeing several pairs for <$10 on Google and they're half the height
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PuffinMuffin on September 30, 2023, 12:59:39 PM
For cheaper than trashing a file you can just order "low profile nylock nuts". I am seeing several pairs for <$10 on Google and they're half the height

It's where I got the idea. Unfortunately, they're not available for a reasonable price in Europe.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mixed Bag on September 30, 2023, 04:58:43 PM
“Jam nylock”
“Thin nylock”
And “Shear nylock” also apply to thinner nylon insert nuts.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 30, 2023, 09:13:46 PM
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For cheaper than trashing a file you can just order "low profile nylock nuts". I am seeing several pairs for <$10 on Google and they're half the height
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It's where I got the idea. Unfortunately, they're not available for a reasonable price in Europe.

Well, I'll trade you dozens of low profile lock nuts for your healthcare and rail systems.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 01, 2023, 04:55:54 PM
“Jam nylock”
“Thin nylock”
And “Shear nylock” also apply to thinner nylon insert nuts.

Thing is trucks already use them. These are 'thin' by other industry standards, not ours. The only thinner ones I've been able to find are the Ti ones (King and axle); they're light and thin, but if you fux with your trux a lot, the [hard] nylon they use becomes useless in less time than a regular counterpart.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on October 02, 2023, 12:01:50 AM
Just out of curiosity, I have the opportunity to have 5.2 lows ventures not too expensive. I skated highs for a long time, and in my first 5 years of skating (I have 15 years of skating), I was only on low Ventures.

My kickflips worked well, now I have lost them for a very long time.. I am currently on indy hollows 139 and I skate 8.0

Do you really think that for a person with small legs, low trucks are better and that it totally changes the success of certain Tricks ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 02, 2023, 12:36:44 AM
Just out of curiosity, I have the opportunity to have 5.2 lows ventures not too expensive. I skated highs for a long time, and in my first 5 years of skating (I have 15 years of skating), I was only on low Ventures.

My kickflips worked well, now I have lost them for a very long time.. I am currently on indy hollows 139 and I skate 8.0

Do you really think that for a person with small legs, low trucks are better and that it totally changes the success of certain Tricks ?

Don't do this to yourself - I think you will feel some difference but it's not game changing or will magically unlock tricks you lost or didn't have in the past. Same logic with the height - board width conversation, Rob Welsh should be riding a 9" given his height but he gave us amazing skating riding a 7.5 - 7.75.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 02, 2023, 01:22:11 AM
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Just out of curiosity, I have the opportunity to have 5.2 lows ventures not too expensive. I skated highs for a long time, and in my first 5 years of skating (I have 15 years of skating), I was only on low Ventures.

My kickflips worked well, now I have lost them for a very long time.. I am currently on indy hollows 139 and I skate 8.0

Do you really think that for a person with small legs, low trucks are better and that it totally changes the success of certain Tricks ?
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Don't do this to yourself - I think you will feel some difference but it's not game changing or will magically unlock tricks you lost or didn't have in the past. Same conversation with the height - board width conversation, Rob Welsh should be riding a 9" given his height but he gave us amazing skating riding a 7.5 - 7.75.
seconded
the timing will be faster which may help
but if you dont have the trick/technique, you cant “buy it”

going back to what you know probably wouldnt hurt though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 02, 2023, 09:38:55 AM
I know it's not what you want...but don't underestimate the whiffed kickfilp of a venture high...not ideal...but it works...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 02, 2023, 10:21:50 AM
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Just out of curiosity, I have the opportunity to have 5.2 lows ventures not too expensive. I skated highs for a long time, and in my first 5 years of skating (I have 15 years of skating), I was only on low Ventures.

My kickflips worked well, now I have lost them for a very long time.. I am currently on indy hollows 139 and I skate 8.0

Do you really think that for a person with small legs, low trucks are better and that it totally changes the success of certain Tricks ?
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Don't do this to yourself - I think you will feel some difference but it's not game changing or will magically unlock tricks you lost or didn't have in the past. Same conversation with the height - board width conversation, Rob Welsh should be riding a 9" given his height but he gave us amazing skating riding a 7.5 - 7.75.
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seconded
the timing will be faster which may help
but if you dont have the trick/technique, you cant “buy it”

going back to what you know probably wouldnt hurt though

@french

i agree with these folks, j.soy too.

now i’ll talk about me, because that’s what i like to do.
i can kickflip on almost every skateboard, eventually. a fair amount of them i’ll kickflip on sooner/better/etc than my own board. it is maddening.
i don’t have good kickflips, but i can do them, so the setup really doesn’t matter.
kickflips on lower trucks, work much much much more consistently for me. i can get higher freak wave kickflips with taller trucks/wheels, and the kickflips i do on lo’s can be ‘muffled’/less …..lofted (please allow me this indulgent word choice, none of my shit is going high).

the shortened version:

if you can kickflip, you will, the gear doesn’t matter.
it is easier for me to kickflip on venture lo’s and thunder 147s, and shorter/narrower boards.

hopefully you are able to find some time to skate, some peace of mind.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 02, 2023, 10:48:22 AM
It's the slow turn. That's why it feels taller than Indys' truck.

I love tall dumpy loose trucks. I've gotten used to my 93a 58mm rat bones 2 though the wheel is deadly on morning dew and when it's just sprinkling out.

Zero traction in damp conditions.

I'll continue in a wheel thread....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 02, 2023, 11:39:17 AM
It's the slow turn. That's why it feels taller than Indys' truck.

I love tall dumpy loose trucks. I've gotten used to my 93a 58mm rat bones 2 though the wheel is deadly on morning dew and when it's just sprinkling out.

Zero traction in damp conditions.

I'll continue in a wheel thread....

I think dumpy is the best description yet, really spot on.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on October 02, 2023, 11:50:37 AM
Just wanted to say that I feel AWAKE.

Having switched to Ventures (currently on 5.6 Hi V-Lights, 8.125 deck, 14.25 wb) has done good things to my skating. I feel like I'm getting old stuff back (had an aeon-long break and started again a couple of years ago) and learning new stuff / personal NBDs faster than before, especially on street. I don't if this is just a coincidence with my progress level in general, but it sure feels like the overall solid feel of the trucks have unlocked something that other trucks haven't been able to, at least not yet. Feels good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 02, 2023, 07:20:03 PM
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Just out of curiosity, I have the opportunity to have 5.2 lows ventures not too expensive. I skated highs for a long time, and in my first 5 years of skating (I have 15 years of skating), I was only on low Ventures.

My kickflips worked well, now I have lost them for a very long time.. I am currently on indy hollows 139 and I skate 8.0

Do you really think that for a person with small legs, low trucks are better and that it totally changes the success of certain Tricks ?
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Don't do this to yourself - I think you will feel some difference but it's not game changing or will magically unlock tricks you lost or didn't have in the past. Same conversation with the height - board width conversation, Rob Welsh should be riding a 9" given his height but he gave us amazing skating riding a 7.5 - 7.75.
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seconded
the timing will be faster which may help
but if you dont have the trick/technique, you cant “buy it”

going back to what you know probably wouldnt hurt though
[close]

@french

i agree with these folks, j.soy too.

now i’ll talk about me, because that’s what i like to do.
i can kickflip on almost every skateboard, eventually. a fair amount of them i’ll kickflip on sooner/better/etc than my own board. it is maddening.
i don’t have good kickflips, but i can do them, so the setup really doesn’t matter.
kickflips on lower trucks, work much much much more consistently for me. i can get higher freak wave kickflips with taller trucks/wheels, and the kickflips i do on lo’s can be ‘muffled’/less …..lofted (please allow me this indulgent word choice, none of my shit is going high).

the shortened version:

if you can kickflip, you will, the gear doesn’t matter.
it is easier for me to kickflip on venture lo’s and thunder 147s, and shorter/narrower boards.

hopefully you are able to find some time to skate, some peace of mind.

If you got the trick, then you can do it on whatever setup you're riding, adaptation is part of skateboarding. Don't kid yourself that 1 setup or piece of gear will address the skill gap.

The itch to try something new will always be there, but sticking to what you know works for you trumps changing things up hoping it will unlock new stuff for you. It's how I've managed to avoid stocking decks I may be itching to try but know I won't like. We retrospectively overestimate our abilities especially as we get older, but not losing tricks or not doing tricks as high is part of being an older skater.

I've got so much nostalgia for the 5.2 V-Hollow LOs even though I've been riding the 5.8 TI for so long, I'm sure I'd hate my first few sessions back on them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Badandoldskater on October 02, 2023, 07:54:18 PM
5.6 v lights comes in standard height and low ? Or do 5.6 not come in lows?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 02, 2023, 08:08:16 PM
No 5.6 in lows, sadly.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Badandoldskater on October 02, 2023, 09:06:10 PM
No 5.6 in lows, sadly.

Thank you, do you think an 8 with a 5.0 would feel odd?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 02, 2023, 11:41:47 PM
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No 5.6 in lows, sadly.
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Thank you, do you think an 8 with a 5.0 would feel odd?

Not at all. Size chart maxes out at 7.8” boards.

You are within the .25” +/- zone
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 03, 2023, 06:21:27 PM
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It's the slow turn. That's why it feels taller than Indys' truck.

I love tall dumpy loose trucks. I've gotten used to my 93a 58mm rat bones 2 though the wheel is deadly on morning dew and when it's just sprinkling out.

Zero traction in damp conditions.

I'll continue in a wheel thread....
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I think dumpy is the best description yet, really spot on.

Def.

I been feeling the change. I definitely know loose trucks is easier on the body.  I can stand full on a rail with 58mm 93a wheels.

I also had to relearn to skate my whole board. Before you had to be close to bolts always and it was the greatest shit.

I'm sore af.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 03, 2023, 10:54:38 PM
I actually think gullwing when I hear dumpy.  I remember seeing those barrier kult guys skate them. Vert trucks skated loosely…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mdspb on October 04, 2023, 10:00:56 AM
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No 5.6 in lows, sadly.
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Thank you, do you think an 8 with a 5.0 would feel odd?

There are 5.2 Lows, which are theoretically ideal for an 8”.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PuffinMuffin on October 04, 2023, 10:52:23 PM
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“Jam nylock”
“Thin nylock”
And “Shear nylock” also apply to thinner nylon insert nuts.
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Thing is trucks already use them. These are 'thin' by other industry standards, not ours. The only thinner ones I've been able to find are the Ti ones (King and axle); they're light and thin, but if you fux with your trux a lot, the [hard] nylon they use becomes useless in less time than a regular counterpart.

You're right. I was kind of worried that I might have compromised the integrity of the nuts by grinding them down. So, before you posted, I bought 10 thin nuts shipped from America and it turns out they're the same thickness as standard 3/8 kingpin nuts. Although they were listed by the seller as ~2mm thinner, they're not; they're actually the exact same height. What a waste of money.

(https://i.imgur.com/B2h1e0Ll.png)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 07, 2023, 01:55:51 PM
I
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“Jam nylock”
“Thin nylock”
And “Shear nylock” also apply to thinner nylon insert nuts.
[close]

Thing is trucks already use them. These are 'thin' by other industry standards, not ours. The only thinner ones I've been able to find are the Ti ones (King and axle); they're light and thin, but if you fux with your trux a lot, the [hard] nylon they use becomes useless in less time than a regular counterpart.
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You're right. I was kind of worried that I might have compromised the integrity of the nuts by grinding them down. So, before you posted, I bought 10 thin nuts shipped from America and it turns out they're the same thickness as standard 3/8 kingpin nuts. Although they were listed by the seller as ~2mm thinner, they're not; they're actually the exact same height. What a waste of money.

(https://i.imgur.com/B2h1e0Ll.png)




I fell for it too but didn’t pay crazy shipping.

Acer racing has the ti nuts, can get them via Amazon too; they are close to half the size and stupid light; axle nuts too, tho if you get these you need sooooo many speed rings it’s not funny.

3/8-24 Titanium Skateboard Truck Kingpin Nuts 2 pieces https://a.co/d/gCVcegM
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 07, 2023, 04:42:06 PM
I found thinner nuts at my local Ace Hardware that are like these: https://www.fastenere.com/standard-thin-nylon-insert-hex-jam-lock-nuts-stainless-steel-18-8?variant_id=9584&device=c&network=x&keyword=&creative=&placement=&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwg4SpBhAKEiwAdyLwvP2TOQuzD-0lzDvKF-lo5UHFbPKuYOlPbScJvyGClKyrwi0AYaFVdxoCnpgQAvD_BwE

You can see they are thinner as they barely have a single thread on them. In the pictures you want to look for this as it is a better indicator than the outside of the nut, which might look thinner but isn't. A friend of mine just got these for his Ventures and runs them flush with 88 Supercush and loves them. Rides decently loose and didn't have to resort to the loose trucks kit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on October 07, 2023, 05:13:28 PM
I found thinner nuts at my local Ace Hardware that are like these: https://www.fastenere.com/standard-thin-nylon-insert-hex-jam-lock-nuts-stainless-steel-18-8?variant_id=9584&device=c&network=x&keyword=&creative=&placement=&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwg4SpBhAKEiwAdyLwvP2TOQuzD-0lzDvKF-lo5UHFbPKuYOlPbScJvyGClKyrwi0AYaFVdxoCnpgQAvD_BwE

You can see they are thinner as they barely have a single thread on them. In the pictures you want to look for this as it is a better indicator than the outside of the nut, which might look thinner but isn't. A friend of mine just got these for his Ventures and runs them flush with 88 Supercush and loves them. Rides decently loose and didn't have to resort to the loose trucks kit.

Just make sure you buy the 24 tpi, not 16 or 18.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PuffinMuffin on October 08, 2023, 03:51:05 AM
I found thinner nuts at my local Ace Hardware that are like these: https://www.fastenere.com/standard-thin-nylon-insert-hex-jam-lock-nuts-stainless-steel-18-8?variant_id=9584&device=c&network=x&keyword=&creative=&placement=&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwg4SpBhAKEiwAdyLwvP2TOQuzD-0lzDvKF-lo5UHFbPKuYOlPbScJvyGClKyrwi0AYaFVdxoCnpgQAvD_BwE

You can see they are thinner as they barely have a single thread on them. In the pictures you want to look for this as it is a better indicator than the outside of the nut, which might look thinner but isn't. A friend of mine just got these for his Ventures and runs them flush with 88 Supercush and loves them. Rides decently loose and didn't have to resort to the loose trucks kit.

So, you're saying your friend ordered those same nuts from the link and ended up receiving thinner ones? No matter which option I choose, the photo doesn’t change. I think I'm happy with my ground-down ones for now. A replacement file was only €2.50.

Edited this post because it came off like I was accusing you of being dishonest, which wasn’t my intention! I’m just generally interested in case my nuts explode. So I'll either order these or those Acer nuts Xen suggested and hope the Nylock doesn't come out upon first use like last time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 08, 2023, 10:05:34 AM
I had the nylon pop out as well on a first use kingpin nuts, pin pushed it out when tightening; They replaced it.

I wrecked my shoulder (still not right) because one of these fell off during a high (high) speed manual and my front hanger fell off and I didn’t know …put her down and pin to pavement, Superman for about 8’ crashed landed on my left arm and hip; pretty sure either a small fracture or major rotator rippage, weirdly no bruising or swelling. It must have looked super weird especially after as I was pacing around looking for my bushings…people coming up that saw with “you alright?” Lol


That’s when I let this particular ocd mission go.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 08, 2023, 11:07:50 AM
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I found thinner nuts at my local Ace Hardware that are like these: https://www.fastenere.com/standard-thin-nylon-insert-hex-jam-lock-nuts-stainless-steel-18-8?variant_id=9584&device=c&network=x&keyword=&creative=&placement=&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwg4SpBhAKEiwAdyLwvP2TOQuzD-0lzDvKF-lo5UHFbPKuYOlPbScJvyGClKyrwi0AYaFVdxoCnpgQAvD_BwE

You can see they are thinner as they barely have a single thread on them. In the pictures you want to look for this as it is a better indicator than the outside of the nut, which might look thinner but isn't. A friend of mine just got these for his Ventures and runs them flush with 88 Supercush and loves them. Rides decently loose and didn't have to resort to the loose trucks kit.
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So, you're saying your friend ordered those same nuts from the link and ended up receiving thinner ones? No matter which option I choose, the photo doesn’t change. I think I'm happy with my ground-down ones for now. A replacement file was only €2.50.

Edited this post because it came off like I was accusing you of being dishonest, which wasn’t my intention! I’m just generally interested in case my nuts explode. So I'll either order these or those Acer nuts Xen suggested and hope the Nylock doesn't come out upon first use like last time.

The photos in the link I'm seeing show a nylock but with a single full thread below the nylock. A normal nut has 2. The difference is about 3/32" or so in thickness. That was the link he used. Seeing them in person they look noticeably different near the bottom of the nut in terms of the flats for the wrench.  The nylock portion is the same height. I don't know if it matters that we are in the United States? My local Ace and hardware supplier (an industrial bolt and metal warehouse) have what look to be the same ones.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 08, 2023, 03:04:59 PM
I actually think gullwing when I hear dumpy.  I remember seeing those barrier kult guys skate them. Vert trucks skated loosely…..

Some gullwings skated ok. But that was a long time ago.

I loved my sidewinder. I tried to switch to agro trackers but I couldn't do it. I could make the gullwings way way looser. Also those aggros bushings was hard to look at
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 08, 2023, 03:22:27 PM
I'm almost ready for new trucks. I definitely going 6.1s. when I see them. I need to know because the 5.8 was definitely the best truck I've had ever
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: emotional_degloving on October 08, 2023, 05:07:44 PM
Yo, probably asked and answered a million times
My bushings are cracked, is it alright to swap em out with the blue Indy barrel bushings?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lessfillingtastegreat on October 08, 2023, 05:22:11 PM
First sesh back on ventures.  Sooooo much better. Damn.  The lady got me some thunders for Xmas ( titanium ) been struggling all year on them.   Been venture my entire life but wanted to give the thunders a try.   

I have never had such a difficult time sliding tricks. The wheels would drag on the ledge.  Occasionally after copious amount of wax I could slide something.

Brutal.  Picked up some v-lights.  5.6.  Started making tricks quickly.  Even did the first switch crook of the year.  I don’t really try / do those that often but that’s besides the point.   What I’m getting at is if your thinking about it. Learn from my mistake.  Don’t.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 08, 2023, 05:32:23 PM
Yo, probably asked and answered a million times
My bushings are cracked, is it alright to swap em out with the blue Indy barrel bushings?

Oh yeah. Idk the hardness but they def will fit.

The only bushings I know that don't fit are bones. Probably ace classic. I should chop one of those towers a test
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: emotional_degloving on October 08, 2023, 05:58:34 PM
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Yo, probably asked and answered a million times
My bushings are cracked, is it alright to swap em out with the blue Indy barrel bushings?
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Oh yeah. Idk the hardness but they def will fit.

The only bushings I know that don't fit are bones. Probably ace classic. I should chop one of those towers a test

Thanks Unc. I think they're like 92 du?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on October 08, 2023, 08:34:00 PM
Yo, probably asked and answered a million times
My bushings are cracked, is it alright to swap em out with the blue Indy barrel bushings?
Yes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 08, 2023, 10:03:17 PM
Someone just needs to take like some Ace or Krux or any white bushing that's on sale and dye them purple and sell as replacements.

I really hope DLX can offer purple and/or green replacements like they do for Thunder 90a
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on October 08, 2023, 10:49:11 PM
Kind of a random question. I have a set of very broken in standard 5.2 highs and lightly used 5.8 titaniums. I tried to put the 5.8 ti hangers on the 5.2 standard baseplates to make a hybrid truck, but for whatever reason they aren’t pairing well. I tried with stock bushings and it seems like the hangers are leaning really far inward, so the top bushings aren’t seated properly and I can’t get the top washer on at all. I tried with bones bushings and it was basically the same.

I was under the impression that I could mix and match parts at will, but it seems like that isn’t the case? Has anyone else experienced this?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on October 09, 2023, 09:27:29 AM
^^i have a set of 5.8s that are combo of titanium hangers and cast plates.  my favorite trucks ive ever used actually, thats a bummer yours arent cooperating
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on October 09, 2023, 10:23:52 AM
running 5.6 ti hangers on 5.2 cast plates with no issues for about a year now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 09, 2023, 10:24:23 AM
Kind of a random question. I have a set of very broken in standard 5.2 highs and lightly used 5.8 titaniums. I tried to put the 5.8 ti hangers on the 5.2 standard baseplates to make a hybrid truck, but for whatever reason they aren’t pairing well. I tried with stock bushings and it seems like the hangers are leaning really far inward, so the top bushings aren’t seated properly and I can’t get the top washer on at all. I tried with bones bushings and it was basically the same.

I was under the impression that I could mix and match parts at will, but it seems like that isn’t the case? Has anyone else experienced this?

not calling you out, i’ve never had this problem. i mix and match hangers and baseplates often.

i am fairly certain that venture only makes one style of baseplate (meaning the baseplates are not designed for hi or lo, or different widths. obviously there are cast, hollow, forged baseplates, but they are not width or height specific).

all to say: i got no fucking idea what’s going on there
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 09, 2023, 01:35:07 PM
I put a hollow hangers on a cast plate. Turns out I prefer the reverse.

Cast hangers hollow plates. Idk why
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 10, 2023, 04:24:14 AM
Kind of a random question. I have a set of very broken in standard 5.2 highs and lightly used 5.8 titaniums. I tried to put the 5.8 ti hangers on the 5.2 standard baseplates to make a hybrid truck, but for whatever reason they aren’t pairing well. I tried with stock bushings and it seems like the hangers are leaning really far inward, so the top bushings aren’t seated properly and I can’t get the top washer on at all. I tried with bones bushings and it was basically the same.

I was under the impression that I could mix and match parts at will, but it seems like that isn’t the case? Has anyone else experienced this?


Just looking at some of the random assorted Venture trucks I have and some are very much like that, in that it seems like the bottom bushings need to be a few mm taller, but then when stacked up to make the hanger sit nicely, the top bushing would not fit on the truck.

Weird for sure, but I didn't really compare a lot of parts, just some would fit well and others not so well, but as far as I recall, they were all the same size and make too, just from different runs, so something somewhere seems like it has changed.

One set in question had the silver kingpins which was from shortage / covid times, but I don't have the stickers under them to see when they were made.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on October 12, 2023, 04:56:09 PM
New Manderson V cast hollows incoming:


(https://i.ibb.co/zhFBvLV/IMG-4359.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zhFBvLV)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on October 12, 2023, 06:01:18 PM
New Manderson V cast hollows incoming:


(https://i.ibb.co/zhFBvLV/IMG-4359.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zhFBvLV)

Not into hollows myself, but cool to see them doing them in 5.2l.

Red bushings are the best.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 12, 2023, 06:32:42 PM
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New Manderson V cast hollows incoming:


(https://i.ibb.co/zhFBvLV/IMG-4359.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zhFBvLV)
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Not into hollows myself, but cool to see them doing them in 5.2l.

Red bushings are the best.

Truth!

But still not 5.6 / 5.8 LO
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on October 18, 2023, 09:20:06 AM
got some cheap nord-lock washers, hope they work better than locktite.
I had once my bolts loosen even i use locktite on them.

(https://i.ibb.co/LvPc9fg/PXL-20231018-070010082.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LvPc9fg)
(https://i.ibb.co/XXhQwKL/PXL-20231018-070035544-MP.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XXhQwKL)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 18, 2023, 09:22:59 AM
got some cheap nord-lock washers, hope they work better than locktite.
I had once my bolts loosen even i use locktite on them.

(https://i.ibb.co/LvPc9fg/PXL-20231018-070010082.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LvPc9fg)
(https://i.ibb.co/XXhQwKL/PXL-20231018-070035544-MP.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XXhQwKL)

i’ve really enjoyed some of your specific recommendations.
but not this.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on October 18, 2023, 11:10:55 AM
got some cheap nord-lock washers, hope they work better than locktite.
I had once my bolts loosen even i use locktite on them.

(https://i.ibb.co/LvPc9fg/PXL-20231018-070010082.jpg) (https://ibb.co/LvPc9fg)
(https://i.ibb.co/XXhQwKL/PXL-20231018-070035544-MP.jpg) (https://ibb.co/XXhQwKL)

My assumption is the aluminum will be too soft to really prevent it from twisting.  But definitely report back because if it does work this is an excellent and cheap thing to add to a setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 18, 2023, 03:30:32 PM
That Flaming V graphic is right on.

I'm not the biggest graphics trucks person. That one's no frickin problem
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 18, 2023, 03:40:41 PM
New Manderson V cast hollows incoming:


(https://i.ibb.co/zhFBvLV/IMG-4359.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zhFBvLV)


Those are fire...

I may be the odd man out but FFS screen that shit so it's rightside up when wheels down...I get that they do it this way for display cases but ugh,,,
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fifty8mm on October 18, 2023, 03:55:36 PM
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Kind of a random question. I have a set of very broken in standard 5.2 highs and lightly used 5.8 titaniums. I tried to put the 5.8 ti hangers on the 5.2 standard baseplates to make a hybrid truck, but for whatever reason they aren’t pairing well. I tried with stock bushings and it seems like the hangers are leaning really far inward, so the top bushings aren’t seated properly and I can’t get the top washer on at all. I tried with bones bushings and it was basically the same.

I was under the impression that I could mix and match parts at will, but it seems like that isn’t the case? Has anyone else experienced this?
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Just looking at some of the random assorted Venture trucks I have and some are very much like that, in that it seems like the bottom bushings need to be a few mm taller, but then when stacked up to make the hanger sit nicely, the top bushing would not fit on the truck.

Weird for sure, but I didn't really compare a lot of parts, just some would fit well and others not so well, but as far as I recall, they were all the same size and make too, just from different runs, so something somewhere seems like it has changed.

One set in question had the silver kingpins which was from shortage / covid times, but I don't have the stickers under them to see when they were made.
Probably the pivot cup is slimmed out at the bottom so the new thanger sits different compared to the hanger that wore down with the pivot cup as well
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 18, 2023, 04:22:24 PM
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New Manderson V cast hollows incoming:


(https://i.ibb.co/zhFBvLV/IMG-4359.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zhFBvLV)

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Those are fire...

I may be the odd man out but FFS screen that shit so it's rightside up when wheels down...I get that they do it this way for display cases but ugh,,,

100% agreed, always has made me so annoyed
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 18, 2023, 04:28:25 PM
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New Manderson V cast hollows incoming:


(https://i.ibb.co/zhFBvLV/IMG-4359.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zhFBvLV)

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Those are fire...

I may be the odd man out but FFS screen that shit so it's rightside up when wheels down...I get that they do it this way for display cases but ugh,,,
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100% agreed, always has made me so annoyed


isn’t this true about all truck graphics?
i agree, should read correct when the complete is wheels on the ground
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 18, 2023, 05:58:10 PM
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New Manderson V cast hollows incoming:


(https://i.ibb.co/zhFBvLV/IMG-4359.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zhFBvLV)

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Those are fire...

I may be the odd man out but FFS screen that shit so it's rightside up when wheels down...I get that they do it this way for display cases but ugh,,,
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100% agreed, always has made me so annoyed
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isn’t this true about all truck graphics?
i agree, should read correct when the complete is wheels on the ground

Not all - indy has a habit of doing them 'correct' all the time (?) - I know they didn't for Gonz' 215s  but out of DLX it seems to be standard (which is why I always go raw or if I have too, steel wool that shit off for a raw hanger).

With vents tho, you can't really bitch about the V and it's placement given the hanger design, screening them the opposite way would look lame.


https://nhsskatedirect.com/collections/independent-skateboard-trucks?offset=24

(https://nhsskatedirect.com/cdn/shop/files/71091_9f838bb3-5180-42a4-accb-fa7251c4b885_1800x.jpg?v=1696918774)
(https://nhsskatedirect.com/cdn/shop/files/71177_912d3e98-2aef-49f3-a80b-ee99a5f9fa6b_1000x.jpg?v=1696918824)
(https://nhsskatedirect.com/cdn/shop/files/73517_d082420a-f01c-4a81-b0e6-435ddc54c8f5_1000x.jpg?v=1696918957)

Found a Venture: (pretty sexy colorway)

(https://www.venturetrucks.net/fall23/02-ve-fl23-d1-elise.jpg)

Bad ass 3-D Awake
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/fall23/09-ve-fl23-d1-apparel.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on October 18, 2023, 07:48:22 PM
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New Manderson V cast hollows incoming:


(https://i.ibb.co/zhFBvLV/IMG-4359.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zhFBvLV)

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Those are fire...

I may be the odd man out but FFS screen that shit so it's rightside up when wheels down...I get that they do it this way for display cases but ugh,,,
[close]

100% agreed, always has made me so annoyed
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isn’t this true about all truck graphics?
i agree, should read correct when the complete is wheels on the ground
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With vents tho, you can't really bitch about the V and it's placement given the hanger design, screening them the opposite way would look lame.


blasphemy. older venture graphic orientation is superior.

(https://i.imgur.com/jlSsLCO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/s3TRkXU.jpg)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on October 18, 2023, 09:40:18 PM
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New Manderson V cast hollows incoming:


(https://i.ibb.co/zhFBvLV/IMG-4359.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zhFBvLV)

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Those are fire...

I may be the odd man out but FFS screen that shit so it's rightside up when wheels down...I get that they do it this way for display cases but ugh,,,
[close]

100% agreed, always has made me so annoyed
[close]


isn’t this true about all truck graphics?
i agree, should read correct when the complete is wheels on the ground
[close]

With vents tho, you can't really bitch about the V and it's placement given the hanger design, screening them the opposite way would look lame.

[close]

blasphemy. older venture graphic orientation is superior.

(https://i.imgur.com/jlSsLCO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/s3TRkXU.jpg)

They need to be reawaken
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MetalAnkleMan on October 19, 2023, 09:01:04 AM
Is there any true rail chompers out there that ride Ventures? Cory Duffel comes to mind, maybe Yuto, otherwise I wonder why not many rail skaters done ride Ventures?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on October 19, 2023, 10:39:55 AM
Is there any true rail chompers out there that ride Ventures? Cory Duffel comes to mind, maybe Yuto, otherwise I wonder why not many rail skaters done ride Ventures?

Toby Ryan is on venture now. I think he hops on some hefty rails. But ya i dont know many. Same with big transition skaters...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 19, 2023, 11:44:41 AM
Chris Joslin did until recently. He blamed not landing the Tre Flip on El Toro on breaking his Venture axles too many times.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 19, 2023, 12:24:29 PM
Chris Joslin did until recently. He blamed not landing the Tre Flip on El Toro on breaking his Venture axles too many times.

yeah, i saw that. he’s never been someone i looked at as a pleasant style person, but i did like his style on ventures more.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 19, 2023, 04:40:43 PM
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Chris Joslin did until recently. He blamed not landing the Tre Flip on El Toro on breaking his Venture axles too many times.
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yeah, i saw that. he’s never been someone i looked at as a pleasant style person, but i did like his style on ventures more.

He was also thinner/less chunky than he his now...makes you wonder...agree on his style then vs now tho, he's def more indy lazy looking ;)

He left Venture, what 6+ years ago? Not that recent.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 19, 2023, 06:42:31 PM
Given Indy's have way more broken ti axles and cracked hangers I'm going to blame doing a Tre flip down a however many foot drop might have been the culprit.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 19, 2023, 08:04:57 PM
i think of it as when i look at my trucks before i throw down. Im not caring if people can read my trucks. I guess if i was filming a Thrasher part and i wanted them to like me i might skate a Thrasher Venture for the viewers at home. Def have to be a 6.1 and a big gun with massive wb. Be sick to have a Neck Trasher Venture all flaming and bloody or something. Do wallrides into the street go fast with your hands up and do an ollie.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on October 19, 2023, 11:31:01 PM
It's funny, I've been on Ventures for a bit now, and just recently took out a complete with Indys on it for a whirl. Got used to the Indys pretty quickly, although they felt a bit... lazy, if you know what I mean.

BUT when I switched back to my Venture complete, I was like, I can't effin' ollie for SHIT -- took my over half an hour to figure out how to place my feet etc. But after that it felt like home again, snappy and solid. And when I stepped on my Indy complete after the Venture session again just for the feel of it, the Indys felt like shit.

I know, good skaters can skate anything instantly, but for me probably a lesson learned: stick to one set of trucks at a time and don't switch truck brands in between sessions.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 20, 2023, 06:55:35 AM
I actually think the Venture cast and Indy Standard pop feel is pretty similar especially the nollie pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on October 20, 2023, 07:33:51 AM
I actually think the Venture cast and Indy Standard pop feel is pretty similar especially the nollie pop.

I actually have the hardest time adjusting to Indy.  The pop just feels too light and really messes with my flip tricks - Indy's probably are my favorite trucks for plain nollies though - they just feel like they float.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 20, 2023, 09:24:44 AM
I was blessed with boosted ollie power, maybe because flip tricks didn't exist except in freestyle at that point in my skating or (and probably the real culprit: california hydrants are SMALL and all the vids had ollies over them, so for us on the east coast, especially long island, we had big ass thigh high hydrants)...

..anyway, indy ollies I need to do the ollie motion more pronounced: snap, slide, lift the back leg, etc., I really have to think about the timing, proper distance and speed, etc., but with forged ventures (specifically on 8.5 DLX boards 14.25"wb) it's just a CRACK and I'm up, it's a crazy fast pop (with Thunders close behind).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 20, 2023, 10:05:48 AM
I think the geometry and how the truck turns make a difference, not just height/positioning….. Ollie/nollie on loose aces….you have no leverage, you kinda wash out.  Venture is the opposite…..it simplifies and allows you to pop as hard as you want…..venture hi’s and the pockets of a board work well too…

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vintagebody on October 20, 2023, 11:02:18 AM
I've noticed that with Thunder, and even more so Venture, the wear on the tail and nose is pretty centered. On Indy's, sometimes I pop slightly on the side of the tail, and it shows on the wear. So I def have to run Indy's tighter. But I have also not given them much time.

Theres only one thing to do... Someone needs to measure how much force it takes to lift the nose with different trucks. Will Indy's require most duo to its weight? Or is the wheelbase short enough to make up for it?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 20, 2023, 06:22:37 PM
couldnt find any red thunder 97a bushings in shops
so im running purple supercush tops with bones hard bottoms
really stable in my 6.1 hollows but will try the thunders when i can

i bet the 100a would work but close to 97a has killed wheelbite
and im not sure i like the idea of blue bushings in ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: downtodevin on October 21, 2023, 05:22:57 AM
What wheelbase are y’all rocking with Ventures? I’ve been on 14” but was thinking about trying 14.25 on my next deck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on October 21, 2023, 07:56:48 AM
What wheelbase are y’all rocking with Ventures? I’ve been on 14” but was thinking about trying 14.25 on my next deck.

14" wheelbase I do lows.  14.25 or 14.38 I go high.  I just can't do highs on the 14" wb - makes it feel cramped.  I'm 6'3".
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 21, 2023, 08:33:19 AM
6'3" and I'm on 14.38 with cast hollows. I tried V lights on this WB as well and it's great for a few flat ground trucks but is a bit weird. The rear takes a while to come up so I have to work to not rocket things.

I honestly adjust to Ollie pop after a few of them. For Ace or Indy forged I quickly remember to put my foot more towards the pocket because it's so light. Indy standard/Venture is slightly more towards the tip, Thunders I seem to not think about or notice one bit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 21, 2023, 09:11:01 AM
6'3" and I'm on 14.38 with cast hollows. I tried V lights on this WB as well and it's great for a few flat ground trucks but is a bit weird. The rear takes a while to come up so I have to work to not rocket things.

I honestly adjust to Ollie pop after a few of them. For Ace or Indy forged I quickly remember to put my foot more towards the pocket because it's so light. Indy standard/Venture is slightly more towards the tip, Thunders I seem to not think about or notice one bit.

thunder island indeed.

i don’t notice what i’m doing, when i skate 5.0 lo’s. i just skate. other stuff i can get it to work, and sometimes better, but i’m thinking about it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 21, 2023, 09:20:54 AM
What wheelbase are y’all rocking with Ventures? I’ve been on 14” but was thinking about trying 14.25 on my next deck.

Depends on the deck length, I swore not to ride wider than 14.25" but if the deck is longer than 32" then I'll do up to 14.38". 14.5" is a no for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on October 21, 2023, 11:05:17 AM
5.2 Forged lows on G008 (31.85 & 14.25 i think?)

I care more about shape than wheelbase and atleast Crail decks have been working good with V-lights.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 21, 2023, 11:09:26 AM
5.2 Forged lows on G008 (31.85 & 14.25 i think?)

I care more about shape than wheelbase and atleast Crail decks have been working good with V-lights.

5.2 lo’s, forged, you are an authentic one for this. i cannot not get wheelbite with those trucks.
somehow i’ve never tried the G08. probably what i should be skating, instead of 7.5s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on October 22, 2023, 01:29:52 AM
What wheelbase are y’all rocking with Ventures? I’ve been on 14” but was thinking about trying 14.25 on my next deck.

Been on a 8.125" / 32" / 14.25" wb Polar (with 5.6 V-Lights) for a while now, and it's been really good.

Being a newly AWAKEN being, though, I'm interested to try a shorter wb deck, so I just set up a Chocolate 8.25" / 31.875" / 14" wb (G052) deck just to try something different. Haven't tried it yet -- interesting to see how different it's going to feel. I'm 5'9" with longish legs. I hope it's not gonna feel cramped.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on October 22, 2023, 11:40:41 AM
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5.2 Forged lows on G008 (31.85 & 14.25 i think?)

I care more about shape than wheelbase and atleast Crail decks have been working good with V-lights.
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5.2 lo’s, forged, you are an authentic one for this. i cannot not get wheelbite with those trucks.
somehow i’ve never tried the G08. probably what i should be skating, instead of 7.5s
I love them. Only skated lo's on Ventures so can't really compare them to hi's.

Anyone here that went from lows to highs and prefer the highs?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 22, 2023, 12:08:13 PM
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5.2 Forged lows on G008 (31.85 & 14.25 i think?)

I care more about shape than wheelbase and atleast Crail decks have been working good with V-lights.
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5.2 lo’s, forged, you are an authentic one for this. i cannot not get wheelbite with those trucks.
somehow i’ve never tried the G08. probably what i should be skating, instead of 7.5s
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I love them. Only skated lo's on Ventures so can't really compare them to hi's.

Anyone here that went from lows to highs and prefer the highs?

‘everyone’ seems to have switched over, to hi’s. meaning pros and such.
i cannot remember seeing any lo’s in the wild, in the last 10 years. but i have lived in areas with rough cement, all over, and so it’s a lot of big wheels.

i am constantly trying with the hi’s, but just can’t seem to get the correct mix. with the lo’s, i put them on a board, skate. it works. doesn’t need to be particular.
with the hi’s i’ve only had a few brief moments of them working out. some 5.8s, the bobby ones, i got from @art hellman, loved the ollie/the pop. i just don’t like skating boards above 8 anymore (at this time….). i’ve tried, and will keep trying with the 5.2 hi’s, but the pop feels fucked. rather skate thunders. maybe it’s a deck thing. pretty much any 8, or 775 will work for me with 5.2/5.0 lo’s. with thunders i start to get goldilocks again.
i do need to stress, that despite my preferences, none of this really matters, and no matter what i’m some post middle aged person flailing around, desperately, landing little, going slow, muttering to myself. i don’t want to paint this inaccurate picture that i’m some
finely calibrated skate machine that gets the perfect setup and just rifles off moves.

now there is one caveat to the hi’s….i already feel weird as hell on my tiny boards. and kid’s trucks. but i skated as well as i could have, in the last 10 ish years, on 5.0 hi’s. they looked nuts. the proportions just look like polarizer trucks are something. i’m not saying i was good, but i did land on things that i don’t get often, say a heelflip. i’ll go months without a heelflip, give one a go, maybe yes, probably no, and move one. but with those trucks i’d land that type of thing, and be a little stoked. i can’t remember what happened, i think i just felt too dumb skating that board where others might see me. which is super funny.

annnnnnnywho i’d be stoked to hear what boards people like their hi’s with
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 22, 2023, 12:08:43 PM
I DM'ed PJ Ladd and he responded that he has gone to V-Light highs from lows and is on mellower decks and likes the combo more.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 22, 2023, 03:22:33 PM
I DM'ed PJ Ladd and he responded that he has gone to V-Light highs from lows and is on mellower decks and likes the combo more.


this is so sick.
actual information from the source.
👏
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: southphillytapwater on October 22, 2023, 03:33:06 PM
I saw someone post on here (not this thread, just in general) that Nick Matthews skates lows. Has that ever been confirmed?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 22, 2023, 04:11:35 PM
I saw someone post on here (not this thread, just in general) that Nick Matthews skates lows. Has that ever been confirmed?

looked like lo’s in some of the footage but i think maybe someone else said they weren’t? dunno
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: zozu on October 22, 2023, 04:58:04 PM
up close pic of his trucks from the huf video

(https://i.ibb.co/HHB3cHR/matthew.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

looks like a forged baseplate 5.2? don't know ventures enough to tell what the truck is but Im sure someone can
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 22, 2023, 05:15:24 PM
up close pic of his trucks from the huf video


looks like a forged baseplate 5.2? don't know ventures enough to tell what the truck is but Im sure someone can


Good pic!

Going by where the bolts are sitting, 7/8" with normal nuts are usually flush with cast plates - no bolt sitting up past the nuts the way they do on forged plates, but they definitely look like almost zero clearance which is the look of the low trucks.

Regular low trucks in the 5.2 size would be about the right overall look maybe.

Totally guessing though.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: OhioGuy on October 23, 2023, 07:10:58 AM
What’s the best hard bushings for Venture? Think I’m finally bout to pull the trigger on these 6.1s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on October 23, 2023, 07:34:20 AM
What’s the best hard bushings for Venture? Think I’m finally bout to pull the trigger on these 6.1s.
supercush are a solid choice, but not as readily available as indy aftermarkets
indy barrel bushings fit besides the top being slightly taller than the stock top

i'm running venture stock bottoms (90A) with Indy tops (92A)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 23, 2023, 10:17:55 AM
What’s the best hard bushings for Venture? Think I’m finally bout to pull the trigger on these 6.1s.

ACE Hard bottoms, ACE hard -low- tops (dreamy) or supercush.

And since we're talking hards...bone hards. The conicals give it just enough give.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 23, 2023, 10:55:54 AM
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What’s the best hard bushings for Venture? Think I’m finally bout to pull the trigger on these 6.1s.
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ACE Hard bottoms, ACE hard -low- tops (dreamy) or supercush.

And since we're talking hards...bone hards. The conicals give it just enough give.

haven’t tried the ace hard bushings, but will be hitting @Xen for the correct combo when i finally pull the trigger and get 8” royals. i’m not with that loose trucks shit.

bones hards with ventures have worked well for me, prefer stocks, but part of that is the look of i’m being all the way
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 23, 2023, 11:16:02 AM
I actually think the Venture cast and Indy Standard pop feel is pretty similar especially the nollie pop.

For me in the realm of pop feel it goes

Thunder #1 most explosive pop.

I miss it badly. It was my favorite skatebloarding feeling. I just don't like the shape of the hangar. Back right before the year 00 thunder was at it's best. Thunder is my 3rd favorite truck when all things are considered.

Ventures #2 most explosive pop.

It's like a brand new light switch. Bang sprang loaded pow!

 It's definitely closest BANG to the glory of thunder which is like throwing a giant ass light switch in a power plant or something.
TWO FISTED POW!!!

The look of a venture is second to none. I can see Ventures from very far away because of how sexy it makes us look.
My basic bloard control is definitely powered by Ventures/thunders.
Total control always. Nothing beats it


#3 in pop feel is Destructo/ Royal/other thunder bites.

They got the light switch pop a bit.

Also

Krux pop feel is alright. It's better than Indys'

The ultimate sleeper truck is trackers.
The huge (215?) low ones that look a little like Ventures.

One of my favorite humans ever "Jib" he had a set on his on his Scram Bloards. Kids a beast on the bloard too. He's fast af and all style.

Explosive pop feel. And it's the biggest low truck possible.

And

The big ass tracker is better than the Indy 215 in all ways except one.

The pivot angle on the hangar is way too flat. It's like the old 70s/80s style that Indy also re introduced with on stage 5.
It why that big stupid triangle truck sucked shit.

Who ever designed that shit must have been like ok we need to be even more like Tracker or something. Who knows what's the fool was thinking?

Probably couldn't Ollie yet though we all was by then.

My opinion on Indy is stage 4 and stage 11 are good. It's always been my opinion about stage 4 and look what happened. We got them back and tons of people prefer it over the 11.


My favorite Gullwings had that problem too. It was a bummer.

When the pivot is flat like an old school 70s truck it breaks off easily. It makes turning better but it can't hang with gaps and shit

I lost the topic again

I believe the lower the truck and the wider the wheelbase the greater the pop feel.

I'm off to skate
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 23, 2023, 11:22:22 AM
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I actually think the Venture cast and Indy Standard pop feel is pretty similar especially the nollie pop.
[close]

For me in the realm of pop feel it goes

Thunder #1 most explosive pop.

I miss it badly. It was my favorite skatebloarding feeling. I just don't like the shape of the hangar. Back right before the year 00 thunder was at it's best. Thunder is my 3rd favorite truck when all things are considered.

Ventures #2 most explosive pop.

It's like a brand new light switch. Bang sprang loaded pow!

 It's definitely closest BANG to the glory of thunder which is like throwing a giant ass light switch in a power plant or something.
TWO FISTED POW!!!

The look of a venture is second to none. I can see Ventures from very far away because of how sexy it makes us look.
My basic bloard control is definitely powered by Ventures/thunders.

There's literally no other way to get this for me.

#3 in pop feel is Destructo/ Royal/other thunder bites.

They got the light switch pop a bit.

Krux pop feel is alright. It's better than Indys'

The ultimate sleeper truck is trackers.
The huge (215?) low ones that look a little like Ventures.

One of my favorite humans ever "Jib" he had a set on his on his Scram Bloards. Kids a beast on the bloard too. He's fast af and all style.

The big ass tracker is better than the Indy 215 in all ways except one.

The pivot angle on the hangar is way too flat. It's like the old 70s/80s style that Indy also used on stage 5.
It why that truck sucked shit.

Who ever designed that shit must have been like ok we need to be even more like Tracker or something. Who knows what's the fool was thinking?

My favorite Gullwings had that problem too.

When the pivot is flat like an old school 70s truck it breaks off easily. It makes turning better but it can't hang with gaps and shit

I love st the topic again

I believe the lower the truck and the wider the wheelbase the greater the pop feel.

if kickflips are totally messing with me, then a quick trip to thunder island is the move. best kickflip for me.

ventures for reasons of nostalgia, aesthetics, and they are not deck specific.
wish i could skate the hi’s. riding 50’s is great, till it isn’t
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 23, 2023, 11:32:58 AM
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I actually think the Venture cast and Indy Standard pop feel is pretty similar especially the nollie pop.
[close]

For me in the realm of pop feel it goes

Thunder #1 most explosive pop.

I miss it badly. It was my favorite skatebloarding feeling. I just don't like the shape of the hangar. Back right before the year 00 thunder was at it's best. Thunder is my 3rd favorite truck when all things are considered.

Ventures #2 most explosive pop.

It's like a brand new light switch. Bang sprang loaded pow!

 It's definitely closest BANG to the glory of thunder which is like throwing a giant ass light switch in a power plant or something.
TWO FISTED POW!!!

The look of a venture is second to none. I can see Ventures from very far away because of how sexy it makes us look.
My basic bloard control is definitely powered by Ventures/thunders.

There's literally no other way to get this for me.

#3 in pop feel is Destructo/ Royal/other thunder bites.

They got the light switch pop a bit.

Krux pop feel is alright. It's better than Indys'

The ultimate sleeper truck is trackers.
The huge (215?) low ones that look a little like Ventures.

One of my favorite humans ever "Jib" he had a set on his on his Scram Bloards. Kids a beast on the bloard too. He's fast af and all style.

The big ass tracker is better than the Indy 215 in all ways except one.

The pivot angle on the hangar is way too flat. It's like the old 70s/80s style that Indy also used on stage 5.
It why that truck sucked shit.

Who ever designed that shit must have been like ok we need to be even more like Tracker or something. Who knows what's the fool was thinking?

My favorite Gullwings had that problem too.

When the pivot is flat like an old school 70s truck it breaks off easily. It makes turning better but it can't hang with gaps and shit

I love st the topic again

I believe the lower the truck and the wider the wheelbase the greater the pop feel.
[close]

if kickflips are totally messing with me, then a quick trip to thunder island is the move. best kickflip for me.

ventures for reasons of nostalgia, aesthetics, and they are not deck specific.
wish i could skate the hi’s. riding 50’s is great, till it isn’t

I agree. I feel comfortable on the 5.0s until I miss a critical lock and I'm like I need bigger trucks.

I'm almost through with another set of 5.6s. I gotta try 6.1s next.

If I can't score when ready I'm probably going to get Indy 4s in whatever the biggest size is.

Both are definitely on the menu. It's just that I'm dying to try the modern 4. It was my first truck that wasn't like an XR2 or whatever I could assemble from used parts.

I need to remember what it felt like. I hope that I have tons of flashbacks to the greatness of the 80s.

Thank godt I got to experience all that. 88-98 was the greatest shit ever. 2012 to now is pretty sick too.

1990 alone was the best tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 23, 2023, 12:12:48 PM
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I actually think the Venture cast and Indy Standard pop feel is pretty similar especially the nollie pop.
[close]

For me in the realm of pop feel it goes

Thunder #1 most explosive pop.

I miss it badly. It was my favorite skatebloarding feeling. I just don't like the shape of the hangar. Back right before the year 00 thunder was at it's best. Thunder is my 3rd favorite truck when all things are considered.

Ventures #2 most explosive pop.

It's like a brand new light switch. Bang sprang loaded pow!

 It's definitely closest BANG to the glory of thunder which is like throwing a giant ass light switch in a power plant or something.
TWO FISTED POW!!!

The look of a venture is second to none. I can see Ventures from very far away because of how sexy it makes us look.
My basic bloard control is definitely powered by Ventures/thunders.

There's literally no other way to get this for me.

#3 in pop feel is Destructo/ Royal/other thunder bites.

They got the light switch pop a bit.

Krux pop feel is alright. It's better than Indys'

The ultimate sleeper truck is trackers.
The huge (215?) low ones that look a little like Ventures.

One of my favorite humans ever "Jib" he had a set on his on his Scram Bloards. Kids a beast on the bloard too. He's fast af and all style.

The big ass tracker is better than the Indy 215 in all ways except one.

The pivot angle on the hangar is way too flat. It's like the old 70s/80s style that Indy also used on stage 5.
It why that truck sucked shit.

Who ever designed that shit must have been like ok we need to be even more like Tracker or something. Who knows what's the fool was thinking?

My favorite Gullwings had that problem too.

When the pivot is flat like an old school 70s truck it breaks off easily. It makes turning better but it can't hang with gaps and shit

I love st the topic again

I believe the lower the truck and the wider the wheelbase the greater the pop feel.
[close]

if kickflips are totally messing with me, then a quick trip to thunder island is the move. best kickflip for me.

ventures for reasons of nostalgia, aesthetics, and they are not deck specific.
wish i could skate the hi’s. riding 50’s is great, till it isn’t
[close]

I agree. I feel comfortable on the 5.0s until I miss a critical lock and I'm like I need bigger trucks.

I'm almost through with another set of 5.6s. I gotta try 6.1s next.

If I can't score when ready I'm probably going to get Indy 4s in whatever the biggest size is.

Both are definitely on the menu. It's just that I'm dying to try the modern 4. It was my first truck that wasn't like an XR2 or whatever I could assemble from used parts.

I need to remember what it felt like. I hope that I have tons of flashbacks to the greatness of the 80s.

Thank godt I got to experience all that. 88-98 was the greatest shit ever. 2012 to now is pretty sick too.

1990 alone was the best tho.

i am currently riding (most often), 7.5s with 5.0 lo’s and 50s, half cabs, for what i think are similar reasons. just trying to feel something positive, and there is a wave of nostalgia looking at the tiny tail/flat concave, staring down whilst setting up is the best part, there’s a flicker it might workout.

those stage 4s look cool as hell. my first indy’s were….1988 ish and i’m going to guess 156s. traded my tracker ultralights and hawk deck, for a street cab with bonite and those trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: OhioGuy on October 23, 2023, 12:23:16 PM
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What’s the best hard bushings for Venture? Think I’m finally bout to pull the trigger on these 6.1s.
[close]

ACE Hard bottoms, ACE hard -low- tops (dreamy) or supercush.

And since we're talking hards...bone hards. The conicals give it just enough give.
Thanks. I run Ace hands in my Indy’s and love ‘em.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Puddy Smally on October 23, 2023, 01:58:12 PM
Hello, coming here from a complete place of ignorance.

It seems that my usual online vendors don’t seem to carry 8.5 axle ventures. Is there a reason they seem particularly more difficult to find than say the 5.2’s?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 23, 2023, 03:19:13 PM
They sell out fast
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Puddy Smally on October 23, 2023, 03:41:31 PM
They sell out fast

Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 23, 2023, 04:11:48 PM
no such things as “the best” for bushings
it’s all about feel really. the amount i spent on bushings
fuck

anyways
i run supercush 97a tops with bones 96a bottoms
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 23, 2023, 04:26:47 PM
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I actually think the Venture cast and Indy Standard pop feel is pretty similar especially the nollie pop.
[close]

For me in the realm of pop feel it goes

Thunder #1 most explosive pop.

I miss it badly. It was my favorite skatebloarding feeling. I just don't like the shape of the hangar. Back right before the year 00 thunder was at it's best. Thunder is my 3rd favorite truck when all things are considered.

Ventures #2 most explosive pop.

It's like a brand new light switch. Bang sprang loaded pow!

 It's definitely closest BANG to the glory of thunder which is like throwing a giant ass light switch in a power plant or something.
TWO FISTED POW!!!

The look of a venture is second to none. I can see Ventures from very far away because of how sexy it makes us look.
My basic bloard control is definitely powered by Ventures/thunders.

There's literally no other way to get this for me.

#3 in pop feel is Destructo/ Royal/other thunder bites.

They got the light switch pop a bit.

Krux pop feel is alright. It's better than Indys'

The ultimate sleeper truck is trackers.
The huge (215?) low ones that look a little like Ventures.

One of my favorite humans ever "Jib" he had a set on his on his Scram Bloards. Kids a beast on the bloard too. He's fast af and all style.

The big ass tracker is better than the Indy 215 in all ways except one.

The pivot angle on the hangar is way too flat. It's like the old 70s/80s style that Indy also used on stage 5.
It why that truck sucked shit.

Who ever designed that shit must have been like ok we need to be even more like Tracker or something. Who knows what's the fool was thinking?

My favorite Gullwings had that problem too.

When the pivot is flat like an old school 70s truck it breaks off easily. It makes turning better but it can't hang with gaps and shit

I love st the topic again

I believe the lower the truck and the wider the wheelbase the greater the pop feel.
[close]

if kickflips are totally messing with me, then a quick trip to thunder island is the move. best kickflip for me.

ventures for reasons of nostalgia, aesthetics, and they are not deck specific.
wish i could skate the hi’s. riding 50’s is great, till it isn’t
[close]

I agree. I feel comfortable on the 5.0s until I miss a critical lock and I'm like I need bigger trucks.

I'm almost through with another set of 5.6s. I gotta try 6.1s next.

If I can't score when ready I'm probably going to get Indy 4s in whatever the biggest size is.

Both are definitely on the menu. It's just that I'm dying to try the modern 4. It was my first truck that wasn't like an XR2 or whatever I could assemble from used parts.

I need to remember what it felt like. I hope that I have tons of flashbacks to the greatness of the 80s.

Thank godt I got to experience all that. 88-98 was the greatest shit ever. 2012 to now is pretty sick too.

1990 alone was the best tho.
[close]

i am currently riding (most often), 7.5s with 5.0 lo’s and 50s, half cabs, for what i think are similar reasons. just trying to feel something positive, and there is a wave of nostalgia looking at the tiny tail/flat concave, staring down whilst setting up is the best part, there’s a flicker it might workout.

those stage 4s look cool as hell. my first indy’s were….1988 ish and i’m going to guess 156s. traded my tracker ultralights and hawk deck, for a street cab with bonite and those trucks.

Hell yeah. We're lucky to have experienced thos days. The best times.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 23, 2023, 04:50:04 PM
I'm of the opinion that I would have skated better back then with the gear I have now. Avoiding wheelbite on Venture Lo sucked as did the kingpin clearance especially when your gear was worn. You couldn't ride big wheels unless you had risers and I feel the setups of now are way more conducive to stability and speed. Fuck, looking back at the 13.75-14" WBs an 8" with 14.25 woulda been a big step up for us tall folks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 23, 2023, 06:00:55 PM
The most painful change for me was taking a few months off and coming back to see everything was a mini.

It was definitely like starting over.

8.25 is my absolute minimum. I can ride basically any ride any reasonable wb. I prefer ps stix. Idky. It just feels right.

I wanna try flight stuff but I never see it.

8.75- 9 full with a 14.2- 14.25  would be the goal.

6.1s because they don't lego lock in on double sided curbs.

I'm getting back into bowls too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fakie nollie on October 24, 2023, 07:50:36 AM
Anyone know if they make a light-low in 5.8? I’ve unfortunately gotten used to thunder hollows and everything else feels like concrete boots.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 24, 2023, 08:02:25 AM
Anyone know if they make a light-low in 5.8? I’ve unfortunately gotten used to thunder hollows and everything else feels like concrete boots.

5.8 V-Light Hi - yes, forged baseplate
5.8 V-Light Lo - no, nothing above 5.6 comes in a Lo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 24, 2023, 09:12:20 AM
The most painful change for me was taking a few months off and coming back to see everything was a mini.

It was definitely like starting over.

8.25 is my absolute minimum. I can ride basically any ride any reasonable wb. I prefer ps stix. Idky. It just feels right.

I wanna try flight stuff but I never see it.

8.75- 9 full with a 14.2- 14.25  would be the goal.

6.1s because they don't lego lock in on double sided curbs.

I'm getting back into bowls too.

Happens all the time, everything feels tiny.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on October 24, 2023, 09:32:46 AM
Man I had the worst session today. Tried for the first time a 14" wb deck with 5.6 Hi V-Lights, and my ollie just f*cking disappeared. No joke, I couldn't get the timing right at all the whole session. Terrible. I was terrible, the deck felt terrible. I mean, I've had a lot easier time switching back to Indys from Ventures than going from a 14.25 wb deck to 14.

Short wheelbase + longish tail is poison for me. Switching back to 14.25-14.38 wb.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 24, 2023, 11:32:24 AM
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The most painful change for me was taking a few months off and coming back to see everything was a mini.

It was definitely like starting over.

8.25 is my absolute minimum. I can ride basically any ride any reasonable wb. I prefer ps stix. Idky. It just feels right.

I wanna try flight stuff but I never see it.

8.75- 9 full with a 14.2- 14.25  would be the goal.

6.1s because they don't lego lock in on double sided curbs.

I'm getting back into bowls too.
[close]

Happens all the time, everything feels tiny.

I rode 8-8.25 when I first came back to skating in 2018 and thought that was fairly chill. I recently had an 8.1 that I had setup on Venture lo and while I could skate it slowly, it sucked at speed and felt fucking tiny. I stepped on an 8.25 recently and it was less sucky, but still felt small. Honestly at 6 foot 3 my Generator 8.38 feels like the narrowest I'd wanna go and I only have a size 10.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 24, 2023, 12:01:21 PM
size 10 here, 5’8” short legs.

i mean….7” taller and most likely long legs, seems like it would be beneficial to ride a longer wb.

i’ve been all short wb in the past. my truefit is impossible, so far, to skate. it’s super steep which i despise. rikki saying short wb and long kicks are poison, accurate. short tail is the best for me.

germane to the venture stuff, sorta. dead air pod mentioned something about the 5.8s being the best hi venture, and that the 5.6s were kinda eh. i really like my 5.8s, really don’t like my 5.2 hi’s. i am crazy pills. i just don’t get it. i don’t want to ride big boards. there is no benefit for me, outside of one super specific setup. i’d love to figure out a truck that worked for me with taller wheels (above 52). i used to not care, at all, about wheel size.
not sure why i’m struggling so much with the smaller venture hi’s. my ollie and pop disappeared, instantly. lo’s have the easiest much better ollie for me.

@LebowskisRug unfortunately you are correct, the smaller boards i just ordered a ton of, are hard as heck to skate at even a semi reasonable speed. totally sucks. skating slow is already an issue for me.

my takeaway, is that i’m just bad at skating. gear ain’t gonna fix this mess. god made junk.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 24, 2023, 05:56:13 PM
Hello, coming here from a complete place of ignorance.

It seems that my usual online vendors don’t seem to carry 8.5 axle ventures. Is there a reason they seem particularly more difficult to find than say the 5.2’s?

There are plenty if you go for smaller online shops that ship, I can still find 5.6 TI out in the wild ;)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on October 25, 2023, 08:38:29 AM
size 10 here, 5’8” short legs.

i mean….7” taller and most likely long legs, seems like it would be beneficial to ride a longer wb.

i’ve been all short wb in the past. my truefit is impossible, so far, to skate. it’s super steep which i despise. rikki saying short wb and long kicks are poison, accurate. short tail is the best for me.

germane to the venture stuff, sorta. dead air pod mentioned something about the 5.8s being the best hi venture, and that the 5.6s were kinda eh. i really like my 5.8s, really don’t like my 5.2 hi’s. i am crazy pills. i just don’t get it. i don’t want to ride big boards. there is no benefit for me, outside of one super specific setup. i’d love to figure out a truck that worked for me with taller wheels (above 52). i used to not care, at all, about wheel size.
not sure why i’m struggling so much with the smaller venture hi’s. my ollie and pop disappeared, instantly. lo’s have the easiest much better ollie for me.

@LebowskisRug unfortunately you are correct, the smaller boards i just ordered a ton of, are hard as heck to skate at even a semi reasonable speed. totally sucks. skating slow is already an issue for me.

my takeaway, is that i’m just bad at skating. gear ain’t gonna fix this mess. god made junk.
currently on 5.6's and i honestly didn't find them that much different from 5.2's in terms of pop and turn. my personal experience is that I can kinda run the 5.6's looser than the 5.2's, but still maintain that venture stability. flips tricks were basically the same. i ride either hanger sizes typically with cast plates on 8.0 boards with 52-54mm wheels

since you seem to skate better on the lows but are wanting to skate bigger wheels; have you tried the 5.2's on forged plates?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on October 25, 2023, 09:46:20 AM
I DM'ed PJ Ladd and he responded that he has gone to V-Light highs from lows and is on mellower decks and likes the combo more.

no wonder he was on v lo with risers sometimes, makes me want to change my setup, v lo can't pop high enough on flat ground
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 25, 2023, 10:03:57 AM
westgate?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on October 25, 2023, 10:34:35 AM
westgate
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 25, 2023, 10:37:20 AM
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size 10 here, 5’8” short legs.

i mean….7” taller and most likely long legs, seems like it would be beneficial to ride a longer wb.

i’ve been all short wb in the past. my truefit is impossible, so far, to skate. it’s super steep which i despise. rikki saying short wb and long kicks are poison, accurate. short tail is the best for me.

germane to the venture stuff, sorta. dead air pod mentioned something about the 5.8s being the best hi venture, and that the 5.6s were kinda eh. i really like my 5.8s, really don’t like my 5.2 hi’s. i am crazy pills. i just don’t get it. i don’t want to ride big boards. there is no benefit for me, outside of one super specific setup. i’d love to figure out a truck that worked for me with taller wheels (above 52). i used to not care, at all, about wheel size.
not sure why i’m struggling so much with the smaller venture hi’s. my ollie and pop disappeared, instantly. lo’s have the easiest much better ollie for me.

@LebowskisRug unfortunately you are correct, the smaller boards i just ordered a ton of, are hard as heck to skate at even a semi reasonable speed. totally sucks. skating slow is already an issue for me.

my takeaway, is that i’m just bad at skating. gear ain’t gonna fix this mess. god made junk.
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currently on 5.6's and i honestly didn't find them that much different from 5.2's in terms of pop and turn. my personal experience is that I can kinda run the 5.6's looser than the 5.2's, but still maintain that venture stability. flips tricks were basically the same. i ride either hanger sizes typically with cast plates on 8.0 boards with 52-54mm wheels

since you seem to skate better on the lows but are wanting to skate bigger wheels; have you tried the 5.2's on forged plates?

thanks for the recommendations!
yeah, trying forged plates now. admittedly maybe not on the best decks, but yeah. pop is not going too well. is what it is i suppose
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 25, 2023, 10:38:57 AM
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westgate
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i think @LebowskisRug mentioned he switched to hi’s. it was like him, gustavo, pj, youness, jb….on the lows. i think gustavo switched as well
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on October 25, 2023, 10:49:18 AM
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i think @LebowskisRug mentioned he switched to hi’s. it was like him, gustavo, pj, youness, jb….on the lows. i think gustavo switched as well
theres boatloads of old footage of high pop with lo’s
regardless of who is skating them now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on October 25, 2023, 11:16:25 AM
I read that Yuto is on 5.2l & 51mm Classics.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 25, 2023, 12:07:28 PM
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i think @LebowskisRug mentioned he switched to hi’s. it was like him, gustavo, pj, youness, jb….on the lows. i think gustavo switched as well
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theres boatloads of old footage of high pop with lo’s
regardless of who is skating them now

yes! westgate obviously. and others for certain. a certain switch flip, etc.


yeah yuto is holding it down.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 25, 2023, 02:28:38 PM
A low truck for smaller people is fine and proportionate. We are not talking about large individuals. Yuto, Westgate, and even Nick Matthews are all quite short.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on October 25, 2023, 07:54:32 PM
Got my 5.0l in. :) So cute, lil baby trucks. Going to setup a 7.75. Even if I skate terrible on it, I am excited for the look-down nostalgia factor.

Been skating 5.2h on forged plates with 53s though, so switching to the lows again might be too harsh of an adjustment..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 25, 2023, 08:57:04 PM
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The most painful change for me was taking a few months off and coming back to see everything was a mini.

It was definitely like starting over.

8.25 is my absolute minimum. I can ride basically any ride any reasonable wb. I prefer ps stix. Idky. It just feels right.

I wanna try flight stuff but I never see it.

8.75- 9 full with a 14.2- 14.25  would be the goal.

6.1s because they don't lego lock in on double sided curbs.

I'm getting back into bowls too.
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Happens all the time, everything feels tiny.
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I rode 8-8.25 when I first came back to skating in 2018 and thought that was fairly chill. I recently had an 8.1 that I had setup on Venture lo and while I could skate it slowly, it sucked at speed and felt fucking tiny. I stepped on an 8.25 recently and it was less sucky, but still felt small. Honestly at 6 foot 3 my Generator 8.38 feels like the narrowest I'd wanna go and I only have a size 10.

I like 825s with a big square nose. That makes up for a little lost real estate from my recent slim down.

Before I jumped to 8.8 with 5.8s I was on like 8 Pop Master m1s at 8.25. Those are very tapered andThe rail was really straight. Tre fliped nice imps too.

The 14 in wb was sometimes dangerous in the big bowl. Get too front seat and you start sliding out like speed wobbles but kinda nose Manny.

It's frightening. Especially when you're carving the flat to get a second wall in the "deep" end. Sub 12 I think . Idk what the clover in town is. And I've ended up on my back slamming my head on the wall  because my board tried to auto nose piv revert when I was about to really pump the next wall and try to smash the lip for a one wheel kick turn.

I miss that shit. The town of Salem and grind line fuckin didn't communicate well or something. The sight is sinking into a swamp.

It's definitely like non skaters design the park part. And John Cardiel 's Uber hillbilly cousin was like designer. They was like nah. Metal coping on these tight crazy transitions is fine.
Steel last longer.

But yeah I got wheels on the way. I'm going to really eat good and work on my nollie vs. I wanna flat gap with the trick. Nollie backside flip casual.

In vert

I wanna air and FS Ollie one more time in my life. But it's going to take like a bowl like supreme bowl. That is my kind of shit.

Do they let people mob the ramp? It's probably invite only.
According to Rowan my style is busted Andi should rock monster gear because that's actually what I really am.

I've never had a sip tho.

That bummed me out. He is a bat head tho. I tried to be a ball player but they hated skatebloarding. So I had to choose. I could be a looser fag and ride the bloard (my higher power) break my hand or my neck or I can get serious and help turn this team around. They all had high hopes that I would be a big player after my balls dropped but I just was distracted by cigs and skating.

So one day after I got my first like front wheels almost on the ground boned Ollie one foot on my horrendous board practicing my gay art waiting to get picked up from practice. I told my dad I wanted to quit to chase the dream.

He went insane. Then didn't speak with me outside of growling at me when he saw my face for the entire summer.b

I had been skating 6 tears at that age and world just happened. I was in step with all the trends up till switch.

Why would I want to look like that? No one did it good till the sub zero really.

I been working on it to this day.

Punk rockers taught me that the people who went to Fenway was the ultimate opposition besides nazis.

I'm still a godt in the outfield. Like Rob Schneider in that movie manimal or whatever. Just gimme a Kool and a corona with a line and maybe a little bit of l.

And a couple more kools for the field and we're going to win 10000000.

It just can you deal with the inferiority complex baseball man? Watching me walk sideways into your cream team and just be captain day one with style?

Idk kid. Idk

I can't wait till my wheels get here!!!!

58s I think classic formula. Brand New with a cool black graphic. I'm going to split a 4x4 and make a lil triangle to make getting to the top of barriers easier. I'm going to ally poop piv fakie on it.

Could be wishful thiywith out a mud patch
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: art hellman on October 26, 2023, 07:28:43 AM

I like 825s with a big square nose. That makes up for a little lost real estate from my recent slim down.


yep!  whenever I size down to 8.25, I go with a Quasi Proto for this reason.  Also, the Mike Anderson Krooked (8.38) (his shape?) with the big suare nose is perfect.  I have secretly (now not so secret) set up full other complete that is a Mike Anderson 8.38 with 5.6 venture v-cast and SF F4 53mm conical fulls. it's kinda perfect. 

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 26, 2023, 08:15:38 AM
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I like 825s with a big square nose. That makes up for a little lost real estate from my recent slim down.

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yep!  whenever I size down to 8.25, I go with a Quasi Proto for this reason.  Also, the Mike Anderson Krooked (8.38) (his shape?) with the big suare nose is perfect.  I have secretly (now not so secret) set up full other complete that is a Mike Anderson 8.38 with 5.6 venture v-cast and SF F4 53mm conical fulls. it's kinda perfect.

i’ve had that glue board, that i think is the same as the proto, and it’s been really great. the shape, depth of concave, angle of nose and tail….just all of it.
if i may be so bold: which trucks do you use on the proto? indy 149s?
i rode mine with thunder 148s, pretty tucked in, in the front, and ace 55 classics. probably skated better on the ace setup, some of my favorite kickflips, but trucks were too heavy for my dainty ass and i’d either get sore quickly and/or never ever treflip.
so you prefer the 5.6s to the 5.8s?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on October 26, 2023, 08:18:51 AM
Is cast much different than forged? Near shops only have cast lows and never skated those. They do carry highs forged but i'm not sure i'm ready to move on from lows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 26, 2023, 08:27:41 AM
Is cast much different than forged? Near shops only have cast lows and never skated those. They do carry highs forged but i'm not sure i'm ready to move on from lows.

i prefer cast lo’s.
they are different. with 5.2 especially, the forged lo’s are wheel bitey, which is manageable, but i like the pop
and weight of the cast more.
you could always try the cast, and if hate, switch in some old forged baseplates.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on October 26, 2023, 09:09:28 AM
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I like 825s with a big square nose. That makes up for a little lost real estate from my recent slim down.

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yep!  whenever I size down to 8.25, I go with a Quasi Proto for this reason.  Also, the Mike Anderson Krooked (8.38) (his shape?) with the big suare nose is perfect.  I have secretly (now not so secret) set up full other complete that is a Mike Anderson 8.38 with 5.6 venture v-cast and SF F4 53mm conical fulls. it's kinda perfect.
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i’ve had that glue board, that i think is the same as the proto, and it’s been really great. the shape, depth of concave, angle of nose and tail….just all of it.
if i may be so bold: which trucks do you use on the proto? indy 149s?
i rode mine with thunder 148s, pretty tucked in, in the front, and ace 55 classics. probably skated better on the ace setup, some of my favorite kickflips, but trucks were too heavy for my dainty ass and i’d either get sore quickly and/or never ever treflip.
so you prefer the 5.6s to the 5.8s?

I find that the 5.6 cast hollows match that shape perfectly (if you are still talking about the 8.25).  Probably the best setup I have used in that size.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: art hellman on October 26, 2023, 09:16:55 AM
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I like 825s with a big square nose. That makes up for a little lost real estate from my recent slim down.

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yep!  whenever I size down to 8.25, I go with a Quasi Proto for this reason.  Also, the Mike Anderson Krooked (8.38) (his shape?) with the big suare nose is perfect.  I have secretly (now not so secret) set up full other complete that is a Mike Anderson 8.38 with 5.6 venture v-cast and SF F4 53mm conical fulls. it's kinda perfect.
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i’ve had that glue board, that i think is the same as the proto, and it’s been really great. the shape, depth of concave, angle of nose and tail….just all of it.
if i may be so bold: which trucks do you use on the proto? indy 149s?
i rode mine with thunder 148s, pretty tucked in, in the front, and ace 55 classics. probably skated better on the ace setup, some of my favorite kickflips, but trucks were too heavy for my dainty ass and i’d either get sore quickly and/or never ever treflip.
so you prefer the 5.6s to the 5.8s?
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I find that the 5.6 cast hollows match that shape perfectly (if you are still talking about the 8.25).  Probably the best setup I have used in that size.

@ok thanks for pointing out my error... I've set it up (the Manderson Krooked) with 5.8 (8.5) Venture v-cast (the ted barrow ones). 

@Thebird I've always skated the Proto (8.25 and the 8.5) with Indy 149s (ti with cast plates).  When 8.25 was my go-to for years I'd always skate 149s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 26, 2023, 09:59:37 AM
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I like 825s with a big square nose. That makes up for a little lost real estate from my recent slim down.

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yep!  whenever I size down to 8.25, I go with a Quasi Proto for this reason.  Also, the Mike Anderson Krooked (8.38) (his shape?) with the big suare nose is perfect.  I have secretly (now not so secret) set up full other complete that is a Mike Anderson 8.38 with 5.6 venture v-cast and SF F4 53mm conical fulls. it's kinda perfect.
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i’ve had that glue board, that i think is the same as the proto, and it’s been really great. the shape, depth of concave, angle of nose and tail….just all of it.
if i may be so bold: which trucks do you use on the proto? indy 149s?
i rode mine with thunder 148s, pretty tucked in, in the front, and ace 55 classics. probably skated better on the ace setup, some of my favorite kickflips, but trucks were too heavy for my dainty ass and i’d either get sore quickly and/or never ever treflip.
so you prefer the 5.6s to the 5.8s?
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I find that the 5.6 cast hollows match that shape perfectly (if you are still talking about the 8.25).  Probably the best setup I have used in that size.
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@ok thanks for pointing out my error... I've set it up (the Manderson Krooked) with 5.8 (8.5) Venture v-cast (the ted barrow ones). 

@Thebird I've always skated the Proto (8.25 and the 8.5) with Indy 149s (ti with cast plates).  When 8.25 was my go-to for years I'd always skate 149s

5.8s might be better than 5.6s. this is when i go full batshit, but i’ve felt like 159s are the best indys (to be fair, my 149s were riiiiight when stage 11s came out, koston hollows, some said they were more like stage stage 10.5s, never felt rad).

now i’m thinking i may have only had the 8.5 proto shape, that tapered to something like 8.25 at the back. the 8.25 might have been the better move for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on October 26, 2023, 12:39:22 PM
I’m on some 5.8s right now, and after a year plus of slappies and curb skating, two broken kingpins, and some slightly bent but still skateable axles, I’ve finally hit axle on my back truck. First truck I’ve ever hit axle on, feels good. It’s barely just poking through right now but I plan to keep skating them and seeing how far I can get before they’re not skateable anymore.
Was on Indy’s for years before making the move to venture but I don’t see myself going back, they’re just the perfect truck for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 26, 2023, 03:39:56 PM
I’m on some 5.8s right now, and after a year plus of slappies and curb skating, two broken kingpins, and some slightly bent but still skateable axles, I’ve finally hit axle on my back truck. First truck I’ve ever hit axle on, feels good. It’s barely just poking through right now but I plan to keep skating them and seeing how far I can get before they’re not skateable anymore.
Was on Indy’s for years before making the move to venture but I don’t see myself going back, they’re just the perfect truck for me.


What are you riding in the way of the whole setup? Or at the very least, what board, wb, etc?

I had a quick look back through history and didn't see anything besides the stats post, 53-54mm wheels.

Always curious as to what people find works for them in that regard with the 5.8 Ventures.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 26, 2023, 04:14:34 PM
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I’m on some 5.8s right now, and after a year plus of slappies and curb skating, two broken kingpins, and some slightly bent but still skateable axles, I’ve finally hit axle on my back truck. First truck I’ve ever hit axle on, feels good. It’s barely just poking through right now but I plan to keep skating them and seeing how far I can get before they’re not skateable anymore.
Was on Indy’s for years before making the move to venture but I don’t see myself going back, they’re just the perfect truck for me.
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What are you riding in the way of the whole setup? Or at the very least, what board, wb, etc?

I had a quick look back through history and didn't see anything besides the stats post, 53-54mm wheels.

Always curious as to what people find works for them in that regard with the 5.8 Ventures.

i should have held onto my 5.8s, maybe. i tend to want to ride bigger boards, try and make it work, and then feel like nah, i’ll just go back to what i learned on most tricks on: 7.5-7.75. skate that stuff for a month, get self conscious with how small, slow, and not current that is, and fire up the desire for a bigger setup.
and then you lucky ducks get to read my gibberish.

anyways, i rode 5.8s on a few different boards, the black widow shape, and a really old bbs 8.125 that has a 14.125 wb. i’m not sure why i stopped riding it on the 8.125 tbh. the ollie was so nice.
not a great answer on my part.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on October 26, 2023, 06:06:50 PM
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I’m on some 5.8s right now, and after a year plus of slappies and curb skating, two broken kingpins, and some slightly bent but still skateable axles, I’ve finally hit axle on my back truck. First truck I’ve ever hit axle on, feels good. It’s barely just poking through right now but I plan to keep skating them and seeing how far I can get before they’re not skateable anymore.
Was on Indy’s for years before making the move to venture but I don’t see myself going back, they’re just the perfect truck for me.
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What are you riding in the way of the whole setup? Or at the very least, what board, wb, etc?

I had a quick look back through history and didn't see anything besides the stats post, 53-54mm wheels.

Always curious as to what people find works for them in that regard with the 5.8 Ventures.
I feel like 5.8s on an 8.5W x 31.75 to 32L x 14.25WB board is the sweet spot for me. Tried a friends board who skates damn near the same specs as me but he has 5.6s on and they just didn’t feel as comfy to me as the 5.8s.
I alternate between 53 and 54mm wheels, usually spit F4 99A. Classics are my go to but I’ve been experimenting with their different shapes recently.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 26, 2023, 08:44:16 PM
This habitat Gall board is perfect for 5.6s Probably even better with 5.2s

It's got a 14" wb and it's 32" long. Outstanding combo.

I never miss a kickflip. Lots of them are ugly but it flips straight and true. I rip um out the air and smack it on the ground like a domino.

It's good to be riding my old spits. I missed the rumble. Cracks are a bitch but whatever.
Most things are working on it. I'm trying new shit. This is good. I'm too set in my ways.

I was doing fakie v today. I'm trying to get nollie v tho.

I did the fakie ones as an example to my broken ass brain. Tried to mirror it. My feet said different. It's like do a different trick bitch.

I can't get both feet on.

When I compensate with my weight they start flipping 90 and rocket or I miss the flick and do a dope one footer nollie front shuv.

It's the bane of my existence. I did just learn to really do nollie FS shit.

I think if I was on a smaller truck with this particular board it'd be a wrap tomorrow.

I need a euro gap or pyramid or whatever. Get the timing right. Fuck an a frame. Waste of skate park space. Should be a spine. That shit is basically flat ground.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on October 26, 2023, 10:07:11 PM
Ive been having the madness alot lately and through my 5.8s back on my board, but now i skate 8.25 decks...i also ride the conical full wheels so the wheels stuck out enough for me to see them clearly looking straight down and even the whole wheels while turning. I think i may get some 5.6s just so i can get a sharper turn with the wheels more aligned/inside the deck a little more. I used to ride 8.5 decks when i was riding the 5.8s. Anyways, the first session back on them was really nice. Got alot of ledge tricks back that i lost and learned 3 new ledge tricks on them. Something about the stability of them gave me more confidence to try some new ledge tricks. What size ventures do most of yall ride with 8.25 decks? Assuming the 5.6s?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 26, 2023, 10:32:23 PM
Ive been having the madness alot lately and through my 5.8s back on my board, but now i skate 8.25 decks...i also ride the conical full wheels so the wheels stuck out enough for me to see them clearly looking straight down and even the whole wheels while turning. I think i may get some 5.6s just so i can get a sharper turn with the wheels more aligned/inside the deck a little more. I used to ride 8.5 decks when i was riding the 5.8s. Anyways, the first session back on them was really nice. Got alot of ledge tricks back that i lost and learned 3 new ledge tricks on them. Something about the stability of them gave me more confidence to try some new ledge tricks. What size ventures do most of yall ride with 8.25 decks? Assuming the 5.6s?

Yeah. I never have 5.2s

I'm going back up soon anyway
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 26, 2023, 10:53:53 PM
Ive been having the madness alot lately and through my 5.8s back on my board, but now i skate 8.25 decks...i also ride the conical full wheels so the wheels stuck out enough for me to see them clearly looking straight down and even the whole wheels while turning. I think i may get some 5.6s just so i can get a sharper turn with the wheels more aligned/inside the deck a little more. I used to ride 8.5 decks when i was riding the 5.8s. Anyways, the first session back on them was really nice. Got alot of ledge tricks back that i lost and learned 3 new ledge tricks on them. Something about the stability of them gave me more confidence to try some new ledge tricks. What size ventures do most of yall ride with 8.25 decks? Assuming the 5.6s?


That is the most common size now, but if you want to see approximately what it looks like, just take off all the inside washers and put your wheels on right at the axles.  You don't have to skate it like that, but that is almost the same look as the 5.6 with two or three washers on the inside, compared to the 5.8 or at least it is only 5 mm difference in overall width of axle between the two.

I know some people used to do before the 8.25 trucks came out, riding the 149s / 5.8 width trucks on their 8.25 size boards with no washers on the inside or at all.  Some people would even file, grind or otherwise machine the axle ends down so they could run them with no washers at all and they often had them fit fairly well on 8.25 boards, but it is not something I would really do now, especially when you can get 5.6 sized hangers to fit more evenly.

What size Conical Full wheels are you on?  The smaller ones up to about 54mm are not too wide, but 55 or definitely 56mm and up become a lot wider.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on October 27, 2023, 03:37:21 AM
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Ive been having the madness alot lately and through my 5.8s back on my board, but now i skate 8.25 decks...i also ride the conical full wheels so the wheels stuck out enough for me to see them clearly looking straight down and even the whole wheels while turning. I think i may get some 5.6s just so i can get a sharper turn with the wheels more aligned/inside the deck a little more. I used to ride 8.5 decks when i was riding the 5.8s. Anyways, the first session back on them was really nice. Got alot of ledge tricks back that i lost and learned 3 new ledge tricks on them. Something about the stability of them gave me more confidence to try some new ledge tricks. What size ventures do most of yall ride with 8.25 decks? Assuming the 5.6s?
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That is the most common size now, but if you want to see approximately what it looks like, just take off all the inside washers and put your wheels on right at the axles.  You don't have to skate it like that, but that is almost the same look as the 5.6 with two or three washers on the inside, compared to the 5.8 or at least it is only 5 mm difference in overall width of axle between the two.

I know some people used to do before the 8.25 trucks came out, riding the 149s / 5.8 width trucks on their 8.25 size boards with no washers on the inside or at all.  Some people would even file, grind or otherwise machine the axle ends down so they could run them with no washers at all and they often had them fit fairly well on 8.25 boards, but it is not something I would really do now, especially when you can get 5.6 sized hangers to fit more evenly.

What size Conical Full wheels are you on?  The smaller ones up to about 54mm are not too wide, but 55 or definitely 56mm and up become a lot wider.

Thanks for the info! Definitely will give the 5.6 a try. Im on 56mm conical fulls right now so pretty wide lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fakie nollie on October 27, 2023, 07:26:33 AM
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Anyone know if they make a light-low in 5.8? I’ve unfortunately gotten used to thunder hollows and everything else feels like concrete boots.
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5.8 V-Light Hi - yes, forged baseplate
5.8 V-Light Lo - no, nothing above 5.6 comes in a Lo

Thanks - bummer.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on October 27, 2023, 07:41:00 AM
Just wanted to say that I LOVE my 5.6 Hi V-Lights on a 14.25" wb deck. Tried a 14" wb deck the other day and man it messed up my pop, among other things. Was back on my normal deck today and was relieved to find that the pop and everything else was there. Somehow short wb with Ventures is not my thing at all.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 27, 2023, 07:47:54 AM
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Anyone know if they make a light-low in 5.8? I’ve unfortunately gotten used to thunder hollows and everything else feels like concrete boots.
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5.8 V-Light Hi - yes, forged baseplate
5.8 V-Light Lo - no, nothing above 5.6 comes in a Lo
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Thanks - bummer.

i’ve got worse news.
5.2 lo, is the largest lo size.

but, alternatively, ventures with a forged plate are a solid medium height. toss some 51s on and you are lo enough.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Rattus Localis on October 28, 2023, 07:47:57 PM
New Manderson V cast hollows incoming:


(https://i.ibb.co/zhFBvLV/IMG-4359.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zhFBvLV)

I need these in my life and am getting impatient.

 I'm considering buying a set of 5.6 hollows and 5.6 standards, and putting the hollow axle hanger on the cast plates. But then I was reading Brimson's comments a few pages back about differences between different runs, and I'm scared I'll get a dud match up.

I refuse to buy the Kader V-cast hollows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on October 28, 2023, 07:56:51 PM
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New Manderson V cast hollows incoming:


(https://i.ibb.co/zhFBvLV/IMG-4359.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zhFBvLV)
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I need these in my life and am getting impatient.

 I'm considering buying a set of 5.6 hollows and 5.6 standards, and putting the hollow axle hanger on the cast plates. But then I was reading Brimson's comments a few pages back about differences between different runs, and I'm scared I'll get a dud match up.

I refuse to buy the Kader V-cast hollows.

Pretty unlikely that it's gonna be an issue, I've never had an issue with mixing/matching and I know a bunch of people who do it all the time. Though if you do that you don't get the hollow kingpin just fyi, not a big deal though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on October 28, 2023, 08:27:38 PM
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New Manderson V cast hollows incoming:


(https://i.ibb.co/zhFBvLV/IMG-4359.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zhFBvLV)
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I need these in my life and am getting impatient.

 I'm considering buying a set of 5.6 hollows and 5.6 standards, and putting the hollow axle hanger on the cast plates. But then I was reading Brimson's comments a few pages back about differences between different runs, and I'm scared I'll get a dud match up.

I refuse to buy the Kader V-cast hollows.

I have a bunch of sets of Ventures, and have swapped parts around between them. It always works. Only stuff that wouldn't work would be old trucks.

Hollows aren't necessary though. Just get standards or V-Lights and enjoy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 28, 2023, 10:12:28 PM
Yeah, I always intended of getting cast plates, dropping in a krux KP and buying hollows…..I did that with thunder…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Shalom Peterson on October 29, 2023, 12:04:17 AM
It may be hard to tell, but what does that Crack under my axel mean? Am I grinding into the bucket part of the hanger? Some days the Crack is WAY more visible. I think wax gets chucked up in there.

(https://i.ibb.co/CQmZrv6/20231029-024822.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/bm9zmMj/20231029-025141.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 29, 2023, 01:26:08 AM
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New Manderson V cast hollows incoming:


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I need these in my life and am getting impatient.

 I'm considering buying a set of 5.6 hollows and 5.6 standards, and putting the hollow axle hanger on the cast plates. But then I was reading Brimson's comments a few pages back about differences between different runs, and I'm scared I'll get a dud match up.

I refuse to buy the Kader V-cast hollows.


Honestly though, I couldn't really tell the difference until someone else brought it up, more just that one seemed to overhang a lot more than another one, but they all still work fine, just needed a touch of fine tuning / bushing change up.

I don't think any current trucks would have issues though - everything Venture (all DLX really) has been Mexico now for a bit, so they are all tried and tested, everything works, etc.



I have a bunch of sets of Ventures, and have swapped parts around between them. It always works. Only stuff that wouldn't work would be old trucks.

Hollows aren't necessary though. Just get standards or V-Lights and enjoy.


Do you have a lot of the "other parts" sitting around?  I ask not for myself as I have too much of everything, but mainly cause some others on here might benefit from those parts.  Guessing you would have more local means to sell / pass them on to others if you don't use them at all, or you alternate and put them on other setups or something?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on October 29, 2023, 10:51:16 AM
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New Manderson V cast hollows incoming:


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I need these in my life and am getting impatient.

 I'm considering buying a set of 5.6 hollows and 5.6 standards, and putting the hollow axle hanger on the cast plates. But then I was reading Brimson's comments a few pages back about differences between different runs, and I'm scared I'll get a dud match up.

I refuse to buy the Kader V-cast hollows.
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Honestly though, I couldn't really tell the difference until someone else brought it up, more just that one seemed to overhang a lot more than another one, but they all still work fine, just needed a touch of fine tuning / bushing change up.

I don't think any current trucks would have issues though - everything Venture (all DLX really) has been Mexico now for a bit, so they are all tried and tested, everything works, etc.


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I have a bunch of sets of Ventures, and have swapped parts around between them. It always works. Only stuff that wouldn't work would be old trucks.

Hollows aren't necessary though. Just get standards or V-Lights and enjoy.
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Do you have a lot of the "other parts" sitting around?  I ask not for myself as I have too much of everything, but mainly cause some others on here might benefit from those parts.  Guessing you would have more local means to sell / pass them on to others if you don't use them at all, or you alternate and put them on other setups or something?

I definitely have more junk than I need haha. I usually just try to give away gear to people who need it or will use it. No point in selling stuff for a couple bucks- ain't worth the hassle.

I like the fact that cast or forged plates are interchangeable with all the hangers. I've swapped parts between trucks from 2020 to current with no issues. All the same stuff.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Trail on October 29, 2023, 03:54:08 PM
Is there any hight difference between the forged baseplates and the cast on the highs?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vexed on October 29, 2023, 05:15:21 PM
Is there any hight difference between the forged baseplates and the cast on the highs?

Bout 1.5mm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vexed on October 29, 2023, 05:21:12 PM
I’ve looked through this thread and haven’t seen very much 5.2 high talk.

Do 5.2s feel much different than 5.6?  I don’t think I’d actually be able to skate the lows full time but I’m really thinking I might prefer an 8” truck.  The hanger wings do look taller / less cool than on the wider models/lows.     
Maybe I’d go forged to set ‘em a little lower to compensate?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Trail on October 29, 2023, 05:46:10 PM
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Is there any hight difference between the forged baseplates and the cast on the highs?
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Bout 1.5mm

Thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 29, 2023, 08:36:46 PM
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Is there any hight difference between the forged baseplates and the cast on the highs?
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Bout 1.5mm
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Thanks


Throughout all the big brands (and I am guessing any others that do both cast and forged) the difference is about the same, with hangers all being the same for any normal truck, just the baseplates being the different heights, eg

Venture cast about 53.5

Venture forged about 52 mm


Low trucks are in the hanger with the same baseplates for Venture and Indy at least.  Some other brands use different shapes in baseplate and kingpin geometry, or used to anyway, maybe not so much any more.

The only reason I say all this is because people have come into the shop very confused about some things like this in the past, so sorry if this is a little too much.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 29, 2023, 08:44:00 PM
I’ve looked through this thread and haven’t seen very much 5.2 high talk.

Do 5.2s feel much different than 5.6?  I don’t think I’d actually be able to skate the lows full time but I’m really thinking I might prefer an 8” truck.  The hanger wings do look taller / less cool than on the wider models/lows.     
Maybe I’d go forged to set ‘em a little lower to compensate?

Ask Ben Degros I think he rides the v light 5.2 and our lord and Savior Senior Worrest skates cast 5.2. PJ does forged 5.2 as well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 29, 2023, 08:45:56 PM
I’ve looked through this thread and haven’t seen very much 5.2 high talk.

Do 5.2s feel much different than 5.6?  I don’t think I’d actually be able to skate the lows full time but I’m really thinking I might prefer an 8” truck.  The hanger wings do look taller / less cool than on the wider models/lows.     
Maybe I’d go forged to set ‘em a little lower to compensate?


I do actually wonder how many people ride standard / hi Ventures in smaller sizes, but they are out there and most likely just don't comment on here that much.

There might be more talk or questions of whether a certain pro is on low or high trucks, but quite a few are on 5.2 size, with a good number on each, it would seem.


As you said, it is interesting looking at some products and thinking they are more proportionate in certain sizes than others.

The 5.2 is a little less stable on wider boards than the 5.6 but then I have bigger feet and prefer wider boards too so standing on boards I have with them is not a fair comparison.  Others find they work really well, no issues, happily skate them as they are for anything with anywhere from 50 to 54 mm wheels easily enough on 8 or 8.1 sized boards more than anything else.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on October 29, 2023, 10:14:10 PM
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Is there any hight difference between the forged baseplates and the cast on the highs?
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Bout 1.5mm
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Thanks
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Throughout all the big brands (and I am guessing any others that do both cast and forged) the difference is about the same, with hangers all being the same for any normal truck, just the baseplates being the different heights, eg

Venture cast about 53.5

Venture forged about 52 mm


Low trucks are in the hanger with the same baseplates for Venture and Indy at least.  Some other brands use different shapes in baseplate and kingpin geometry, or used to anyway, maybe not so much any more.

The only reason I say all this is because people have come into the shop very confused about some things like this in the past, so sorry if this is a little too much.

So i guess using a piece or two of used plastic card (like credit card) as a riser pad on the forged baseplate would do the trick to get the same cast height..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Nymphicus hollandicus on October 29, 2023, 11:24:04 PM
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I’ve looked through this thread and haven’t seen very much 5.2 high talk.

Do 5.2s feel much different than 5.6?  I don’t think I’d actually be able to skate the lows full time but I’m really thinking I might prefer an 8” truck.  The hanger wings do look taller / less cool than on the wider models/lows.     
Maybe I’d go forged to set ‘em a little lower to compensate?
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I do actually wonder how many people ride standard / hi Ventures in smaller sizes, but they are out there and most likely just don't comment on here that much.

There might be more talk or questions of whether a certain pro is on low or high trucks, but quite a few are on 5.2 size, with a good number on each, it would seem.


As you said, it is interesting looking at some products and thinking they are more proportionate in certain sizes than others.

The 5.2 is a little less stable on wider boards than the 5.6 but then I have bigger feet and prefer wider boards too so standing on boards I have with them is not a fair comparison.  Others find they work really well, no issues, happily skate them as they are for anything with anywhere from 50 to 54 mm wheels easily enough on 8 or 8.1 sized boards more than anything else.

You are right, smaller Venture High riders are out there! I've mentioned/gone on about it a few times in other posts and threads but I adore Venture 5.0 Highs. For 7.6" decks and 53mm wheels they are just superb. Personally, I also prefer the way they look over the Lows, they're more chunky but thats cool to me.

Part of me really wants really skinny boards to make a major comeback (however unlikely that may be!) just so more people can enjoy them and that they 100% keep getting produced in the future. I'm a little concerned at the lack of exact board width match options at the moment, quite a few 7.75" options but not many 7.6" and they pair with 5.0 Highs so well.

5.2 Highs are great too, I found them nice and stable on the last 7.875" deck I rode.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vexed on October 30, 2023, 12:09:48 AM
5.2H V-Lights and an Evisen 8” for $90 shipped on tactics sale

I guess I’ll report back.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on October 30, 2023, 12:22:59 AM
Any of you guys switching occasionally between Indys and Ventures? If so, how do you feel the difference? Or do you just not care?

I'm still bouncing between worlds 'cause I can't seem to decide which are ultimately better for me. 5.6 V-Lights and Indy 144s here.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Trail on October 30, 2023, 04:51:56 AM
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Is there any hight difference between the forged baseplates and the cast on the highs?
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Bout 1.5mm
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Thanks
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Throughout all the big brands (and I am guessing any others that do both cast and forged) the difference is about the same, with hangers all being the same for any normal truck, just the baseplates being the different heights, eg

Venture cast about 53.5

Venture forged about 52 mm


Low trucks are in the hanger with the same baseplates for Venture and Indy at least.  Some other brands use different shapes in baseplate and kingpin geometry, or used to anyway, maybe not so much any more.

The only reason I say all this is because people have come into the shop very confused about some things like this in the past, so sorry if this is a little too much.

This is perfect thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: backside_frontside on October 30, 2023, 07:34:45 AM
5.2 Hi skater here...

I've skated 5.2 Hi > Lo >Hi (on 8 or 8.125 w/ 14 wb). Idk about forged or cast and don't bother to care about the baseplates (it honestly doesn't matter as much as y'all think it does). I can confidently say the difference is... minimal. The los do make the board noticeably lower when you first step on the board, but I adjusted to it after about 20 minutes of riding around. I went back to Hi because of the better kingpin clearance and less wheelbite. The Los look cooler but I like doing back smiths.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on October 30, 2023, 07:38:47 AM
5.2 Hi skater here...

I've skated 5.2 Hi > Lo >Hi (on 8 or 8.125 w/ 14 wb). Idk about forged or cast and don't bother to care about the baseplates (it honestly doesn't matter as much as y'all think it does). I can confidently say the difference is... minimal. The los do make the board noticeably lower when you first step on the board, but I adjusted to it after about 20 minutes of riding around. I went back to Hi because of the better kingpin clearance and less wheelbite. The Los look cooler but I like doing back smiths.

I agree with this.  I find switching between Venture LOs and HIs is far easier than switching to a different brand.  Even with the different height, they still feel like Ventures - if that makes sense.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 30, 2023, 08:00:43 AM
Any of you guys switching occasionally between Indys and Ventures? If so, how do you feel the difference? Or do you just not care?

I'm still bouncing between worlds 'cause I can't seem to decide which are ultimately better for me. 5.6 V-Lights and Indy 144s here.

I've ridden and liked both. I prefer the Ventures in the end I think because the lower height and stability feel nice and the pop feel is not super far off. I go with what I skate more consistent on- not what I have like "this is better..." for a handful of small differences. That's how madness starts.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on October 30, 2023, 08:14:37 AM
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Any of you guys switching occasionally between Indys and Ventures? If so, how do you feel the difference? Or do you just not care?

I'm still bouncing between worlds 'cause I can't seem to decide which are ultimately better for me. 5.6 V-Lights and Indy 144s here.
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I've ridden and liked both. I prefer the Ventures in the end I think because the lower height and stability feel nice and the pop feel is not super far off. I go with what I skate more consistent on- not what I have like "this is better..." for a handful of small differences. That's how madness starts.

I know what you mean. Sometimes it's a maddening combination of feel and rational thinking. Would probably be better off with a lot less of the latter.

Usually for me, when push comes to shove, it comes down to which truck feels best when ollieing. I mean, they all turn. I can ride Ventures on transition pretty the same as Indys. The differences are more notable when street skating.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: finecojeffe on October 30, 2023, 08:48:49 AM
I go between the two pretty regularly. I prefer ventures at the park as long as im not skating the bowl, and I prefer indys when I'm in the street or in the bowl. I'm on nearly identical setups otherwise, just a difference in trucks. Switching so often makes me wonder if I'd like slappy trucks based on peoples description of them feeling in between the two (more-so noted thunder instead of venture though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Rattus Localis on October 30, 2023, 10:15:49 PM
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New Manderson V cast hollows incoming:


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I need these in my life and am getting impatient.

 I'm considering buying a set of 5.6 hollows and 5.6 standards, and putting the hollow axle hanger on the cast plates. But then I was reading Brimson's comments a few pages back about differences between different runs, and I'm scared I'll get a dud match up.

I refuse to buy the Kader V-cast hollows.
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Honestly though, I couldn't really tell the difference until someone else brought it up, more just that one seemed to overhang a lot more than another one, but they all still work fine, just needed a touch of fine tuning / bushing change up.

I don't think any current trucks would have issues though - everything Venture (all DLX really) has been Mexico now for a bit, so they are all tried and tested, everything works, etc.


Happily, I managed to find a set of V-cast hollows in my size (5.6) for a very fair price at skatewarehouse.com this morning.

These are the Skate Jawn collabs. They look sick with a polished hanger, red bushings and black baseplate. Ended up paying the equivalent of $114 AUD including shipping from the US. All the Aussie shops are charging $160 for the ugly ass Kader ones, so I'm stoked.

Shipping will take about a month, but I can revert to my 5.2s and an 8 inch in the meantime.

Didn't realise there had been so many drops of cast hollows when I made the initial post. I thought the Kaders were the first and the Mandersons, the second. That's why I was so set on getting the Mandersons, after sizing back up to 8.25 and remembering why I don't like Thunders.

P.S. Thanks to everyone who responded.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 30, 2023, 10:38:14 PM
I go between the two pretty regularly. I prefer ventures at the park as long as im not skating the bowl, and I prefer indys when I'm in the street or in the bowl. I'm on nearly identical setups otherwise, just a difference in trucks. Switching so often makes me wonder if I'd like slappy trucks based on peoples description of them feeling in between the two (more-so noted thunder instead of venture though.

Try royals.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 31, 2023, 12:47:37 AM
Anyone prefer the standards or heavier versions of Ventures over the V-Light / V-Hollow? Been focusing more on my fundamentals (ollies specifically) and I'm noticing my dragging foot is slow, most of the motion is spent going upwards instead of forwards, resulting in a rocket ollie. Thought a heavier truck would help with slowing down the pop to compensate for the drag, maybe I'd try a 5.8 standard axle with a forged baseplate. I'm sure I'd hate it for a while coming from 5.8 TI but the madness is creeping in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 31, 2023, 05:29:29 AM
Anyone prefer the standards or heavier versions of Ventures over the V-Light / V-Hollow? Been focusing more on my fundamentals (ollies specifically) and I'm noticing my dragging foot is slow, most of the motion is spent going upwards instead of forwards, resulting in a rocket ollie. Thought a heavier truck would help with slowing down the pop to compensate for the drag, maybe I'd try a 5.8 standard axle with a forged baseplate. I'm sure I'd hate it for a while coming from 5.8 TI but the madness is creeping in.

i ollie better on heavier trucks, i think.

i had one of the best days of my life, almost a quarter of a century ago, on a really light setup. it was when those dumbass spitfire lattice-looking cored wheels came out. i awoke from whatever alcohol drug induced stupor i had going, bought a board, skated this dream spot, and everything worked, better than it should have….
and then i turned right back into a pumpkin soon after.

but in general, heavier boards create more momentum, or something. i’ve gone away from hollow axle trucks. solid 5.8s gave me a great ollie, really felt like i could lay into them as hard as my dusty little legs could
manage.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Rattus Localis on October 31, 2023, 05:51:02 AM
Anyone prefer the standards or heavier versions of Ventures over the V-Light / V-Hollow? Been focusing more on my fundamentals (ollies specifically) and I'm noticing my dragging foot is slow, most of the motion is spent going upwards instead of forwards, resulting in a rocket ollie. Thought a heavier truck would help with slowing down the pop to compensate for the drag, maybe I'd try a 5.8 standard axle with a forged baseplate. I'm sure I'd hate it for a while coming from 5.8 TI but the madness is creeping in.

I just came off 5.2 hi, the plain Jane standards, and loved them. Something clicked. I was skating pretty small wheels though (old 52s worn down to 50-48 mark by the end). Don't think I'd want the full weight bad boys in any wider size, but that's just personal preference/madness. Hence why I just embarked on a quest to find 5.6 cast hollows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: finecojeffe on October 31, 2023, 05:56:04 AM
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I go between the two pretty regularly. I prefer ventures at the park as long as im not skating the bowl, and I prefer indys when I'm in the street or in the bowl. I'm on nearly identical setups otherwise, just a difference in trucks. Switching so often makes me wonder if I'd like slappy trucks based on peoples description of them feeling in between the two (more-so noted thunder instead of venture though.
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Try royals.
for real? I haven't even thought about royal since they first came out. They were horrible. I'll assume they got a lot better? Do they match the criteria of what I wrote in my previous post or something?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: intendedreceivers on October 31, 2023, 06:16:30 AM
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I go between the two pretty regularly. I prefer ventures at the park as long as im not skating the bowl, and I prefer indys when I'm in the street or in the bowl. I'm on nearly identical setups otherwise, just a difference in trucks. Switching so often makes me wonder if I'd like slappy trucks based on peoples description of them feeling in between the two (more-so noted thunder instead of venture though.
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Try royals.
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for real? I haven't even thought about royal since they first came out. They were horrible. I'll assume they got a lot better? Do they match the criteria of what I wrote in my previous post or something?

The new ones are legit some of the nicest trucks on the market, especially if you like loose. I even liked ’em on a longer board at the park (I think I was riding a Blue Meanie at the time).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vexed on October 31, 2023, 06:25:17 AM
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I go between the two pretty regularly. I prefer ventures at the park as long as im not skating the bowl, and I prefer indys when I'm in the street or in the bowl. I'm on nearly identical setups otherwise, just a difference in trucks. Switching so often makes me wonder if I'd like slappy trucks based on peoples description of them feeling in between the two (more-so noted thunder instead of venture though.
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Try royals.
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for real? I haven't even thought about royal since they first came out. They were horrible. I'll assume they got a lot better? Do they match the criteria of what I wrote in my previous post or something?

The set of new Royals I had between Ventures was awesome. They definitely have a deeper, more Indy like, turn but are super stable on center.

Both Royal and Slappy feel like good all-round, middle-ground trucks.

(I have a 2nd set of 8.25 Royals on ice I’ve been contemplating posting in classifieds to avoid madness)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 31, 2023, 06:50:58 AM
Everyone I know who has tried Slappy has found them generally fine, but all have moved on. They seem to be the good truck that no one actually wanted.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 31, 2023, 07:51:11 AM
Everyone I know who has tried Slappy has found them generally fine, but all have moved on. They seem to be the good truck that no one actually wanted.

yes, this seems right on. i haven’t tried.

my blathering is this: the 3-4 brands of trucks, have distinct enough features/attributes. with these attributes come certain negatives. find what’s most important, deal with the rest.

i do want to try royals, but i always come back to venture and thunder.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SupremePizza on October 31, 2023, 08:16:18 AM
Went from a 8.25 FA to 8.38 Gx1000 on the same 5.6s. I found the slightly mellower and longer tail made manuals a bit easier to hold and probably landed my best back 180 which I've never been good at. My only complaint is that the longer tail seemed to make treflips a bit harder to scoop around. I'm guessing it's probably just a matter of getting used to it plus the fact that I was tired and hadn't skated in over a week. I think I want to try the FA shape #2 next. Never felt more awake!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: finecojeffe on October 31, 2023, 08:49:52 AM
based on the suggestions and the replies regarding royals, I guess I'll give the inverted kingpin version a shot. Hopefully the 8.75 ones are the ticket for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 31, 2023, 08:59:45 AM
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I go between the two pretty regularly. I prefer ventures at the park as long as im not skating the bowl, and I prefer indys when I'm in the street or in the bowl. I'm on nearly identical setups otherwise, just a difference in trucks. Switching so often makes me wonder if I'd like slappy trucks based on peoples description of them feeling in between the two (more-so noted thunder instead of venture though.
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Try royals.
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for real? I haven't even thought about royal since they first came out. They were horrible. I'll assume they got a lot better? Do they match the criteria of what I wrote in my previous post or something?

Yes, that's why I suggested them. You get the stability of ventures but with the ability to carve without wheelbite (thunder).

Slappy trucks are decidedly in the ACE/Indy/ML camp of turn, whereas the Royals are in the Thunder/Venture camp BUT turn better than both. The stock bushings are super soft, if you like a more indy feel keep them stock, if you want a more venture feel (while still being able to turn) throw in some hards.

At my local bowls, there is one pocket that I will always fail in with thunders (wheelbite) or ventures (turn delay) if I forget / just cruising for speed and let muscle memory take over; I don't fail that pocket with indy/ace/theeve/slappy or royals.

I can't recall which thread, this one or the royal one, that shows the royals are essentially damn near the same design, pitch, angles, space between baseplate and bushings, etc., as Ventures.

They are not the end all be all but provide minimal wheelbite, great turn and great stabilty and grind just fine (gotta break them in like vents or aces).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 31, 2023, 09:53:19 AM
On Royals - standard kingpin version, my IKP always felt loeser than I liked but turning the nut did little to tighten them. Probably due to the incredibly skft bushings, almost 88a feeling once broken in
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: finecojeffe on October 31, 2023, 10:03:57 AM
Thanks again. Placed an order. Went with ikp despite the previous post. I have a plethora of bushings around my house, so I'm sure i'll find something useful, plus I just want that clearance. Sorry to derail the venture thread on this.

In regards to venture, I recently had to switch the stock bottom bushings out of both front and rear because i managed to split both directly in half. Each had a super clean vertical split. All was fine then out of nowhere I went to turn, and the trucks sort of locked up fully leaned over. I was doing a bunch of slappys so I guess that did it, but in a few decades of skating I've never had two perfectly clean vertical split bushings before.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 31, 2023, 10:47:39 AM
i like ventures, and always return to them.
i probably skate a little better on thunders.
and now this thread has me wanting get royals.
that’s just fucking great.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vexed on October 31, 2023, 01:17:50 PM
i like ventures, and always return to them.
i probably skate a little better on thunders.
and now this thread has me wanting get royals.
that’s just fucking great.

Some dude at the park a few weeks ago gave me an almost new set of Thunder 148 and I can’t wait to get them out of my parts box.  I need to stop thinking about trucks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 31, 2023, 03:18:14 PM
i like ventures, and always return to them.
i probably skate a little better on thunders.
and now this thread has me wanting get royals.
that’s just fucking great.

I'm a broken record, but if you like Ventures but want just a more early turn, Royals are the way. Same goes for Thunders if wheelbite and the baseplate give you trouble....and if you wish indy or Ace were more stable and not so fucking heavy, Royals...or Slappys (which are like Theeve, they have that indy/ace turny-ness but are way more stable and snap back to center better than either - except maybe ACE AF1 low with hard bushings...which feel like heavy ass thunders).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on October 31, 2023, 03:32:10 PM
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i like ventures, and always return to them.
i probably skate a little better on thunders.
and now this thread has me wanting get royals.
that’s just fucking great.
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I'm a broken record, but if you like Ventures but want just a more early turn, Royals are the way. Same goes for Thunders if wheelbite and the baseplate give you trouble....and if you wish indy or Ace were more stable and not so fucking heavy, Royals...or Slappys (which are like Theeve, they have that indy/ace turny-ness but are way more stable and snap back to center better than either (except maybe ACE low with hard bushings...which feel like heavy ass thunders).


for me, turn is way down on the list of attributes. because i’m a kook.

i just want treflips, ollie’s, crookeds, kickflips and some slides. turn is nice, it feels good and all, but the pop
is my number one.

i currently can’t get the royals, because i have gotten myself so turned around on gear i don’t even know what size i’d ride. do i try and mimic the griffin gass setup with his dope 8.5 shape? i just started skating that again on thunders? i just bought some 7.5s….certified.


but yeah i’ll invoice you when i finally buy three pairs of these damn royals
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on October 31, 2023, 05:09:49 PM
I'm a broken record, but if you like Ventures but want just a more early turn, Royals are the way. Same goes for Thunders if wheelbite and the baseplate give you trouble....and if you wish indy or Ace were more stable and not so fucking heavy, Royals...or Slappys (which are like Theeve, they have that indy/ace turny-ness but are way more stable and snap back to center better than either - except maybe ACE AF1 low with hard bushings...which feel like heavy ass thunders).

This is a great description of the new Royals and similar to the experience I have had and why I am skating them now. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 31, 2023, 07:21:27 PM
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i like ventures, and always return to them.
i probably skate a little better on thunders.
and now this thread has me wanting get royals.
that’s just fucking great.
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I'm a broken record, but if you like Ventures but want just a more early turn, Royals are the way. Same goes for Thunders if wheelbite and the baseplate give you trouble....and if you wish indy or Ace were more stable and not so fucking heavy, Royals...or Slappys (which are like Theeve, they have that indy/ace turny-ness but are way more stable and snap back to center better than either (except maybe ACE low with hard bushings...which feel like heavy ass thunders).
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for me, turn is way down on the list of attributes. because i’m a kook.

i just want treflips, ollie’s, crookeds, kickflips and some slides. turn is nice, it feels good and all, but the pop
is my number one.

i currently can’t get the royals, because i have gotten myself so turned around on gear i don’t even know what size i’d ride. do i try and mimic the griffin gass setup with his dope 8.5 shape? i just started skating that again on thunders? i just bought some 7.5s….certified.


but yeah i’ll invoice you when i finally buy three pairs of these damn royals


Royal pop feel is right up there with Venture/Thunder for me, it's never been an issue I had to think about. Def stable like Ventures in that regard.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 31, 2023, 08:24:03 PM
I found the Royal pop feel a bit on the light side and grinder rough like a Venture. I can fucking with bushings if I care about turn but I can't change pop feel. Great tricks, but splitting hairs and Ventures and Thunders narrowly won for me in each scenario. I'd try them again a year on from that experience but am also over caring as much.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 31, 2023, 08:42:38 PM
I’ve spoke about theeve too much to ever skate anything but the main four brands…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on October 31, 2023, 09:10:03 PM
I’ve spoke about theeve too much to ever skate anything but the main four brands…..
You can still get them via theeve would love some 5.5 tikings but $88+shipping....bit steep
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on October 31, 2023, 10:11:16 PM
I traded my tih's, I'm sure they are out there.....they are pretty much some lord of the rings shit.....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on October 31, 2023, 10:33:17 PM
Thanks for the madness, now I got to break out the Royal 149s for a spin.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on October 31, 2023, 11:05:57 PM
I must say Venture lows are first trucks i don't get truck madness itch. I have yet to find place where they don't work for me and i actually skate much better on them than any other truck.

Also huge one for me was that the bushings don't bust and axles don't bend. Every other truck except Indy i've annihilated at some point.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on November 01, 2023, 07:52:40 AM
Anyone prefer the standards or heavier versions of Ventures over the V-Light / V-Hollow? 

I am pretty over hollows / lights ... the difference in weight is less than a bag of chips. I can ollie the exact same amount of boards as well so i dont think that milimeter or whatever i might gain off an ultra light setup is worth it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 01, 2023, 08:48:33 AM
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Anyone prefer the standards or heavier versions of Ventures over the V-Light / V-Hollow? 
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I am pretty over hollows / lights ... the difference in weight is less than a bag of chips. I can ollie the exact same amount of boards as well so i dont think that milimeter or whatever i might gain off an ultra light setup is worth it.

I like the grind better because it sounds better =D But will always ride hollows or ti on Indy/Ace.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on November 01, 2023, 04:36:53 PM
Standards for me. Having a hollow kingpin was better than having hollow axles I think too.

I only break thunder kingpins. Ive bent hollow axles.
Local kid got those trucks. I can't have my wheels wear funny.

Gave my hollow slappy trucks to another local.

They both rip and are good kids. Well deserved
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on November 01, 2023, 05:36:20 PM
Standards for me. Having a hollow kingpin was better than having hollow axles I think too.

Agreed. I do the forged plates on highs to bring em down a bit, but the weight reduction isn't necessary anywhere IMO

Also, I'd like to gently encourage Xen and all to take your blasphemous Royalchat and gear madness out of this sacred thread, thank you. :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 01, 2023, 06:20:17 PM
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Anyone prefer the standards or heavier versions of Ventures over the V-Light / V-Hollow? 
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I am pretty over hollows / lights ... the difference in weight is less than a bag of chips. I can ollie the exact same amount of boards as well so i dont think that milimeter or whatever i might gain off an ultra light setup is worth it.

I have the cast hollows and I'm not sure that the difference is really noticeable vs normal cast but it's like the icing on the cake of an already good truck and mayyyybe makes them feel a tad less hefty.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bob Loblaw on November 04, 2023, 07:03:54 PM
For the 5.8 rydahs - what board brands/shapes are working for you?
Tried a Sci-Fi and wasn't feeling it.
Not too worried about the wheelbase
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 04, 2023, 07:16:01 PM
For the 5.8 rydahs - what board brands/shapes are working for you?
Tried a Sci-Fi and wasn't feeling it.
Not too worried about the wheelbase

DLX 8.5s (regular old 8.s5) unmatched pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 04, 2023, 07:24:53 PM
ill throw some in that i enjoyed
before permanently sizing up to 6.1s

quasi 8.38/32.25/14.25wb
santa cruz 8.8/31.8/14.25wb
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 04, 2023, 07:48:24 PM
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For the 5.8 rydahs - what board brands/shapes are working for you?
Tried a Sci-Fi and wasn't feeling it.
Not too worried about the wheelbase
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DLX 8.5s (regular old 8.s5) unmatched pop.

which one? asking for a somebody that could
use pop
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on November 04, 2023, 07:53:54 PM
ill throw some in that i enjoyed
before permanently sizing up to 6.1s

quasi 8.38/32.25/14.25wb
santa cruz 8.8/31.8/14.25wb

I definitely enjoy the Quasi shapes with Venture
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on November 05, 2023, 12:49:17 AM
So far I haven't come across a shape that didn't work best for me w/ ventures. (I ride 5.8s). I always read that you need "x" shape for them to feel great but for me switching trucks to anything but ventures yields me even worse results all around.

Some shapes I've liked:
-Business and Company 8.5 (I think it had like a 14' wheelbase)
-Real twin tail 8.5 (14.5 wb)
-Quasi Proto 8.5 (14.25 wb)
-Wknd 8.25 (14.25 wb)
-Anti Hero 8.25 (14.38 wb?)
-DOA 8.25 (14.25 wb)

all fine. I also haven't tried hollows but like the standards.

also on the indy topic, I can switch back and forth between them both fine and have recently when trying to decide if I wanted to buy some 5.6s since I had some 144s kicking around. I prefer ventures though since they're a little lower.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on November 05, 2023, 01:23:24 AM
I'm starting to feel that my goldilocks zone (as of now at least) regarding pop lies around the combination of 5.6 V-Lights and a 8.125 / 14.25 wb deck (BBS/DLX shapes treat me best). I also keep switching between Venture and Indy setups and just recently hopped on a DLX 8.25 / 14.38 wb with 144s. Definitely felt that I had to work a bit more for the pop.

The madness is still real but at least I'm narrowing it down.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 05, 2023, 11:04:01 AM
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For the 5.8 rydahs - what board brands/shapes are working for you?
Tried a Sci-Fi and wasn't feeling it.
Not too worried about the wheelbase
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DLX 8.5s (regular old 8.s5) unmatched pop.
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which one? asking for a somebody that could
use pop

Any DLX 8.5/standard shape w/14.25WB - no BS full or Trueshit, just regs. With forged 5.8 Vents, I swear it was like cheating.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 05, 2023, 11:10:51 AM
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For the 5.8 rydahs - what board brands/shapes are working for you?
Tried a Sci-Fi and wasn't feeling it.
Not too worried about the wheelbase
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DLX 8.5s (regular old 8.s5) unmatched pop.
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which one? asking for a somebody that could
use pop
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Any DLX 8.5/standard shape w/14.25WB - no BS full or Trueshit, just regs. With forged 5.8 Vents, I swear it was like cheating.


interesting. mainly because i’ve had a helluva time with longer tails, which i assume that one has
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on November 05, 2023, 11:23:40 AM
For the 5.8 rydahs - what board brands/shapes are working for you?
Tried a Sci-Fi and wasn't feeling it.
Not too worried about the wheelbase

Favorite board I skated em on was a 8.475 OG shape Baker. Worked fine on other various boards too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 05, 2023, 11:51:01 AM
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Tried a Sci-Fi and wasn't feeling it.
Not too worried about the wheelbase
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Favorite board I skated em on was a 8.475 OG shape Baker. Worked fine on other various boards too.

man i haven’t seen one of those for a minute. those look fantastic. when baker switched to the fa (b2) shapes, i stopped buying their stuff. that b16 is such a fun board. not sure why exactly
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 05, 2023, 12:08:46 PM
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For the 5.8 rydahs - what board brands/shapes are working for you?
Tried a Sci-Fi and wasn't feeling it.
Not too worried about the wheelbase
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DLX 8.5s (regular old 8.s5) unmatched pop.
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which one? asking for a somebody that could
use pop
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Any DLX 8.5/standard shape w/14.25WB - no BS full or Trueshit, just regs. With forged 5.8 Vents, I swear it was like cheating.
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interesting. mainly because i’ve had a helluva time with longer tails, which i assume that one has

the regs DLX 8.5 x 31.85 has a 6.5" tail (Blue Eagle/standard).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 05, 2023, 12:26:48 PM
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For the 5.8 rydahs - what board brands/shapes are working for you?
Tried a Sci-Fi and wasn't feeling it.
Not too worried about the wheelbase
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DLX 8.5s (regular old 8.s5) unmatched pop.
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which one? asking for a somebody that could
use pop
[close]

Any DLX 8.5/standard shape w/14.25WB - no BS full or Trueshit, just regs. With forged 5.8 Vents, I swear it was like cheating.
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interesting. mainly because i’ve had a helluva time with longer tails, which i assume that one has
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the regs 8.5 x 31.85 has a 6.5" tail (pretty standard).

that’s the navy blue eagle shape and that board is the shit. tapers, a little shorter. that board is excellent
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 05, 2023, 03:56:30 PM
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For the most part, the boards I usually ride on Indy in that range, the 8.5 x 32.3 with 14.5 wb and the 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb often just feel a little long, but trying Ventures on some other 8.5 boards like the DLX shorter wheelbase decks or anything else with similar overall dimensions with 14.38 or even 14.25 wb just seem to work a bit more comfortably for me when the board was a similar length to what I usually ride and much the same middle between kicks with shorter wheelbase, if that makes sense.

Not saying that will fix everything, as it is more the concave and shape of the board that will make things feel this or that way, but having something that is a little shorter in the wheelbase but much the same overall in length means I can ride a board with Venture trucks and not really have a difficult time getting used to it.

When I put Ventures straight on the board I had Indy on before, everything felt super heavy on the manual / pop point, but within a few sessions it got a bit more normal, then when putting Indy trucks back on they felt way too light and it took a bit to get used to that again, all on the same deck.


Shorter boards with shorter middle between concave were way harder to adjust to for me, always having ghost pop and just not working, even though I tried to give it time, but I am sure others will set up almost any combination of truck and deck and not have any issues.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FUBAR on November 05, 2023, 04:37:15 PM
Is it a huge shock to go up from the 5.8 to 6.1? May try an 8.75 vs my usual 8.5
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bob Loblaw on November 05, 2023, 04:52:37 PM
Thanks for the input, y'all
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 05, 2023, 06:23:36 PM
Is it a huge shock to go up from the 5.8 to 6.1? May try an 8.75 vs my usual 8.5
id say no
6.1s are the truth
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 06, 2023, 09:30:04 AM
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For the 5.8 rydahs - what board brands/shapes are working for you?
Tried a Sci-Fi and wasn't feeling it.
Not too worried about the wheelbase
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Favorite board I skated em on was a 8.475 OG shape Baker. Worked fine on other various boards too.
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man i haven’t seen one of those for a minute. those look fantastic. when baker switched to the fa (b2) shapes, i stopped buying their stuff. that b16 is such a fun board. not sure why exactly

b16s are readily avaialbe online.

Can't find a baker/DW? Grab the 8.375 Uma (same shape just a hair thinner) or the Creature Provost.

EDIT: forgot to say “Venture” to not irritate the forum chads.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 06, 2023, 09:50:11 AM
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For the 5.8 rydahs - what board brands/shapes are working for you?
Tried a Sci-Fi and wasn't feeling it.
Not too worried about the wheelbase
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Favorite board I skated em on was a 8.475 OG shape Baker. Worked fine on other various boards too.
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man i haven’t seen one of those for a minute. those look fantastic. when baker switched to the fa (b2) shapes, i stopped buying their stuff. that b16 is such a fun board. not sure why exactly
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b16s are readily avaialbe online.

Can't find a baker/DW? Grab the 8.375 Uma (same shape just a hair thinner) or the Creature Provost.

i actually looked at that creature provost, also on line, for that reason. i wonder if it’s flatter. currently skating an oooooooold girl deck that is unbreakable, stiff, and pretty dead. reminds me of the nhs decks i’ve had in the past. last forever.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 06, 2023, 03:42:44 PM
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Is it a huge shock to go up from the 5.8 to 6.1? May try an 8.75 vs my usual 8.5
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id say no
6.1s are the truth


I put some Venture 6.1 (standards) on a Polar 8.75 board and it works really well.  That 14.375 wb and decent kicks meant things clicked nicely.  Right now it is only on 52 mm Classics, but I had 54 mm Conical Fulls on it first, all of which worked for everything for the session I had on it.

Just a little bit bigger than my usual BBS 8.5 really, but I also have other DLX 8.75 boards set up, so it is not that big a deal to ride it - sure I felt the size difference, but it wasn't something I was not able to skate well enough, right from go.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 06, 2023, 04:04:07 PM
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Is it a huge shock to go up from the 5.8 to 6.1? May try an 8.75 vs my usual 8.5
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id say no
6.1s are the truth
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I put some Venture 6.1 (standards) on a Polar 8.75 board and it works really well.  That 14.375 wb and decent kicks meant things clicked nicely.  Right now it is only on 52 mm Classics, but I had 54 mm Conical Fulls on it first, all of which worked for everything for the session I had on it.

Just a little bit bigger than my usual BBS 8.5 really, but I also have other DLX 8.75 boards set up, so it is not that big a deal to ride it - sure I felt the size difference, but it wasn't something I was not able to skate well enough, right from go.

one big advantage to the bigger boards, and ventures, for me, is that i can really swing for the fence on the pop portion. just try as hard as possible, less finesse.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FUBAR on November 07, 2023, 02:48:28 AM
Right on. I’m looking at that Chris Senn reissue or that Quasi 8.75 for my jump up in size. I’m pretty much a curb and small ledge guy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: finecojeffe on November 07, 2023, 05:13:04 AM
Right on. I’m looking at that Chris Senn reissue or that Quasi 8.75 for my jump up in size. I’m pretty much a curb and small ledge guy.
that senn reissue isn't drilled for old school pattern?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 07, 2023, 11:32:39 AM
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that senn reissue isn't drilled for old school pattern?

Doesn't appear to be...Conklin and Fraiser are and they are part of that recent drop; I'm going to assume that the Senn is post double drill/old school pattern era.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: m477 on November 07, 2023, 12:36:41 PM
Have the 6.1s been discontinued?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 07, 2023, 12:48:55 PM
Have the 6.1s been discontinued?


not trying to create panic, but in my perusal for some monster truck transportation setup, i haven’t seen a lot of 6.1s or 5.8s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 07, 2023, 01:10:27 PM
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Have the 6.1s been discontinued?
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not trying to create panic, but in my perusal for some monster truck transportation setup, i haven’t seen a lot of 6.1s or 5.8s
theres a ton of them online
definitely location specific but a ton of NYC shops got em too
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 07, 2023, 03:35:30 PM
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Have the 6.1s been discontinued?
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not trying to create panic, but in my perusal for some monster truck transportation setup, i haven’t seen a lot of 6.1s or 5.8s
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theres a ton of them online
definitely location specific but a ton of NYC shops got em too



I do think it is down to who orders them as well as who sells out more quickly too.

Still 6.1s on the current catalog for the main styles of trucks too - team editions, V lights and V hollow versions.


https://venturetrucks.net/


(https://www.venturetrucks.net/fall23/14-ve-sm23-d1-polished.jpg)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Meathook on November 07, 2023, 07:00:12 PM
For the 5.8 rydahs - what board brands/shapes are working for you?
Tried a Sci-Fi and wasn't feeling it.
Not too worried about the wheelbase

Mini logo 8.25.  Very mellow and wb is 14.25.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 07, 2023, 10:00:33 PM
re: ventures and longer wheelbases. im now a believer
sorry for perpetuating that idea in the past. this combo fucks
have nothing else to say but try it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on November 07, 2023, 11:44:23 PM
After a short stint on Indys, yesterday I got back on Ventures (5.6 V-Lights, 8.125 / 14.25 wb DLX deck) and shit just feels so f*cking right. My ollie just seems to naturally like Ventures. I keep having to "aim" it a lot more with Indys.

Once you're awake, you're awake, I guess. No sense in trying to go back to sleep.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on November 08, 2023, 07:00:20 AM
Once you're awake, you're awake, I guess. No sense in trying to go back to sleep.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 08, 2023, 11:35:15 AM
Have the 6.1s been discontinued?

https://nocomplyatx.com/collections/skateboard-trucks/products/venture-v-hollow-all-polished-high-skateboarding-trucks?variant=31711998279820
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chaosisme on November 10, 2023, 08:11:28 AM
Common theme of this thread:

"ventures are my favourite trucks and everything feels perfect, nothing could be better so I tried a different brand and didn't like them so I came back to venture"

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on November 10, 2023, 08:35:05 AM
Common theme of this thread:

"ventures are my favourite trucks and everything feels perfect, nothing could be better so I tried a different brand and didn't like them so I came back to venture"

sometimes you've been awake too long and get a lil sleepy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on November 10, 2023, 09:07:13 AM
Common theme of this thread:

"ventures are my favourite trucks and everything feels perfect, nothing could be better so I tried a different brand and didn't like them so I came back to venture"

Dreams are usually just dreams.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Urtripping on November 10, 2023, 09:38:11 PM
I am officially awake
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 11, 2023, 02:49:55 AM
welcome back
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: art hellman on November 11, 2023, 09:10:06 AM
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Common theme of this thread:

"ventures are my favourite trucks and everything feels perfect, nothing could be better so I tried a different brand and didn't like them so I came back to venture"
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Dreams are usually just dreams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGJNpJXknXE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGJNpJXknXE)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on November 13, 2023, 07:49:42 AM
for the last 5 years of my skateboarding career i've been on 14.25 wb boards for the most parts, with literally like 5 boards that weren't that during this period. i became awake about a year and a half ago, only skated the 14.25 boards still and loved it. before that i was on aces and every attempt at a bigger wheelbase was unsuccessful and frustrating. recently i was given a slightly used 8.38 eagle and it got me wb curious, so i finally set it up with the classic 5.8s. i've only skated flat so far, in shoes i don't like, but it feels so fucking good. some tricks don't work yet but the ones that do work better than ever, at least it feels like this. i'm gonna take it to the park after work to see if it works on other stuff too but i'm pretty optimistic.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on November 13, 2023, 08:02:04 AM
What are some similarities / differences of thunders and ventures...

based on 8.5 axle;

Ventures weight slightly more than thunders (380g vs. 364g on standard team models, pretty close)
Ventures are slightly more pushed out WB (3.125" on thunders, 3.25" on ventures, pretty close)
Thunders baseplate is slightly chunkier (thickest one possible on thunder? both are pretty similar though)
Thunders are slightly lower (52mm vs. 53.5mm for Venture, pretty close though)
Ventures have slightly more grind clearance
Ventures use a completely squared off cylindrical bottom bushing, where Thunders use one with a coned, rounded bottom (barrel bushing i think its called?) this is probably what causes the most difference in Thunders being the "wheelbite grenades" vs. Ventures being much more stable and predictable.
Both trucks hangars stick out in such a way so that when you crooked grind, the whole side of the hangar makes contact with the ledge.
Ventures kind of press in at the sides though where thunders are all one solid smooth shape. Not sure this has any impact on the performance of the truck though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 13, 2023, 08:13:40 AM
for the last 5 years of my skateboarding career i've been on 14.25 wb boards for the most parts, with literally like 5 boards that weren't that during this period. i became awake about a year and a half ago, only skated the 14.25 boards still and loved it. before that i was on aces and every attempt at a bigger wheelbase was unsuccessful and frustrating. recently i was given a slightly used 8.38 eagle and it got me wb curious, so i finally set it up with the classic 5.8s. i've only skated flat so far, in shoes i don't like, but it feels so fucking good. some tricks don't work yet but the ones that do work better than ever, at least it feels like this. i'm gonna take it to the park after work to see if it works on other stuff too but i'm pretty optimistic.

gosh darn it: this isn’t helping my ‘madness’ desire to buy these exact same parts (5.8s, 8.38 eagle).

i have neither the 5.8s, nor that eagle, but i really want that setup, been thinking about it for the better part of the week. not sure if i’d prefer the 8.38 on 5.6s with big wheels…
i’ve been in gear purgatory, for quite awhile.
recently setup some 5.6 v-lights with monster truck wheels and loved the pop.
most of ‘decent’ skating was waaaaay long ago, small boards and that, and i’ve tried to use that type of stuff now and it’s just kind of miserable: i’m going even slower, i still haven’t learned nollie hardflips.
big old wheelbase boards are great for the 3 flip tricks i can do (nollie, switch, regular kickflips). the longer wheelbase does f with my 360 flips, but it’s a whole lot more fun, rn, to skate a decent speed.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Atiba Applebum on November 13, 2023, 09:05:04 AM
Rayssa Leal has a dunk coming in early 2024
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on November 13, 2023, 09:08:17 AM
Rayssa Leal has a dunk coming in early 2024
but she isn't awake
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on November 13, 2023, 05:41:19 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzmvZGXrLly/?igshid=MTI4bzAxdng3aGoycA==

What size deck and ventures is Stefan on? Anyone know
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 13, 2023, 06:30:48 PM
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzmvZGXrLly/?igshid=MTI4bzAxdng3aGoycA==

What size deck and ventures is Stefan on? Anyone know

8.125 deck, I'm guess 5.2s since his signature truck from way back was that size.

Or you could just DM him like a man.

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/stefan-janoski-audiocentric-8-125
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 13, 2023, 10:38:05 PM
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What size deck and ventures is Stefan on? Anyone know
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8.125 deck, I'm guess 5.2s since his signature truck from way back was that size.

Or you could just DM him like a man.

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/stefan-janoski-audiocentric-8-125

He responded to my DMs- 8.125 or 8.38 with 5.2 V-lights and 51s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on November 13, 2023, 11:03:46 PM
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What size deck and ventures is Stefan on? Anyone know
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8.125 deck, I'm guess 5.2s since his signature truck from way back was that size.

Or you could just DM him like a man.

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/stefan-janoski-audiocentric-8-125
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He responded to my DMs- 8.125 or 8.38 with 5.2 V-lights and 51s

Seriously? 8.38 with 5.2s is hella magic carpet-y, yo.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 13, 2023, 11:22:39 PM
It is, but Bobby Worrest does it, Ishod does 147s on 8.38, Reynolds has always done 139s on up to 8.5....

I feel like if you came up skating in the 90's or early 2000's it was far more common to magic carpet than hot rod. I honestly don't remember seeing any evidence of someone preferring to hot rod until the 2010's when it trended for pinching grinds.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on November 14, 2023, 12:22:46 AM
Definetely makes sense for board flippers. Magic carper hits different if you flip your board often
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on November 14, 2023, 03:16:49 AM
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for the last 5 years of my skateboarding career i've been on 14.25 wb boards for the most parts, with literally like 5 boards that weren't that during this period. i became awake about a year and a half ago, only skated the 14.25 boards still and loved it. before that i was on aces and every attempt at a bigger wheelbase was unsuccessful and frustrating. recently i was given a slightly used 8.38 eagle and it got me wb curious, so i finally set it up with the classic 5.8s. i've only skated flat so far, in shoes i don't like, but it feels so fucking good. some tricks don't work yet but the ones that do work better than ever, at least it feels like this. i'm gonna take it to the park after work to see if it works on other stuff too but i'm pretty optimistic.
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gosh darn it: this isn’t helping my ‘madness’ desire to buy these exact same parts (5.8s, 8.38 eagle).

i have neither the 5.8s, nor that eagle, but i really want that setup, been thinking about it for the better part of the week. not sure if i’d prefer the 8.38 on 5.6s with big wheels…
i’ve been in gear purgatory, for quite awhile.
recently setup some 5.6 v-lights with monster truck wheels and loved the pop.
most of ‘decent’ skating was waaaaay long ago, small boards and that, and i’ve tried to use that type of stuff now and it’s just kind of miserable: i’m going even slower, i still haven’t learned nollie hardflips.
big old wheelbase boards are great for the 3 flip tricks i can do (nollie, switch, regular kickflips). the longer wheelbase does f with my 360 flips, but it’s a whole lot more fun, rn, to skate a decent speed.

fwiw i didn’t really enjoy it at the park but it was probably the shoes, since i didn’t like skating them on my standard set up either, i kept missing the flick. it felt very nice when just rolling around and ollieing and shit, ledges were fine, but i had trouble on the hip with tricks i usually do every try. i’ll give it a few more shots anyway because the stuff that felt good felt really good
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 14, 2023, 07:30:29 AM
i wish venture sold forged plate/kingpins. buy just the baseplate.



for those of you that have gone up to 6.1s, how do you like ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stanley Spadowski on November 14, 2023, 10:12:44 AM
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What size deck and ventures is Stefan on? Anyone know
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8.125 deck, I'm guess 5.2s since his signature truck from way back was that size.

Or you could just DM him like a man.

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/stefan-janoski-audiocentric-8-125
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He responded to my DMs- 8.125 or 8.38 with 5.2 V-lights and 51s
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Seriously? 8.38 with 5.2s is hella magic carpet-y, yo.
I’m no pro, but I ride an 8.25 w/ 5.25 lo, and I love it.
I rode venture lo’s from when they came out until about 04. With very brief stints on other trucks. Was on Thunder 147’s on an 8.25 earlier this year, after talking to a friend about his ventures I set mine back up. And I don’t think I’ll ever go back. My skating feels really good right now. I think the 5.25 lo is what I’m just so used to and comfortable with that it’s my perfect truck.
The magic carpet doesn’t bother me, and is hardly noticeable. I try to find a wider wheel and use two washers on the inside of the wheel. Which helps lessen the magic carpet effect.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 14, 2023, 10:35:27 AM
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What size deck and ventures is Stefan on? Anyone know
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8.125 deck, I'm guess 5.2s since his signature truck from way back was that size.

Or you could just DM him like a man.

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/stefan-janoski-audiocentric-8-125
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He responded to my DMs- 8.125 or 8.38 with 5.2 V-lights and 51s
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Seriously? 8.38 with 5.2s is hella magic carpet-y, yo.
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I’m no pro, but I ride an 8.25 w/ 5.25 lo, and I love it.
I rode venture lo’s from when they came out until about 04. With very brief stints on other trucks. Was on Thunder 147’s on an 8.25 earlier this year, after talking to a friend about his ventures I set mine back up. And I don’t think I’ll ever go back. My skating feels really good right now. I think the 5.25 lo is what I’m just so used to and comfortable with that it’s my perfect truck.
The magic carpet doesn’t bother me, and is hardly noticeable. I try to find a wider wheel and use two washers on the inside of the wheel. Which helps lessen the magic carpet effect.

Muscle memory is an amazing thing (just like riding a bike); look at Daddy Ben and his re-kindled love for Venture Los - I'm sure he's bounced around again, but he's been back on them for a hot minute.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 14, 2023, 10:45:10 AM
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzmvZGXrLly/?igshid=MTI4bzAxdng3aGoycA==

What size deck and ventures is Stefan on? Anyone know
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8.125 deck, I'm guess 5.2s since his signature truck from way back was that size.

Or you could just DM him like a man.

https://habitatskateboards.com/products/stefan-janoski-audiocentric-8-125
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He responded to my DMs- 8.125 or 8.38 with 5.2 V-lights and 51s
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Seriously? 8.38 with 5.2s is hella magic carpet-y, yo.
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I’m no pro, but I ride an 8.25 w/ 5.25 lo, and I love it.
I rode venture lo’s from when they came out until about 04. With very brief stints on other trucks. Was on Thunder 147’s on an 8.25 earlier this year, after talking to a friend about his ventures I set mine back up. And I don’t think I’ll ever go back. My skating feels really good right now. I think the 5.25 lo is what I’m just so used to and comfortable with that it’s my perfect truck.
The magic carpet doesn’t bother me, and is hardly noticeable. I try to find a wider wheel and use two washers on the inside of the wheel. Which helps lessen the magic carpet effect.

I thought this would be the case for me but I just couldn't get used to the pop feel and found that while it was easier to do certain tricks they were lower and just not as stable.

Ben has been on V Lights for a while as a compromise between a lo and high but he seems to pretty in tune with his nuances. What's crazy is that
The exact setup was one of the first ones he ever reviewed followed by 6 years of going back and forth pretending Indy or Thunder were the answer. I think madness just crushed his soul and he gave up the chase.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on November 14, 2023, 10:51:25 AM
It also seems that ben only skates his backyard TF for the most part now which is just ledges, curb, manny pad, flat and a small mini ramp all in a fairly contained area so makes sense that short board plus ventures works for that. If he was out skating parks, hips and different kinds of terrain maybe it would trigger some madness again who knows
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 14, 2023, 10:52:36 AM
It also seems that ben only skates his backyard TF for the most part now which is just ledges, curb, manny pad, flat and a small mini ramp all in a fairly contained area so makes sense that short board plus ventures works for that. If he was out skating parks, hips and different kinds of terrain maybe it would trigger some madness again who knows

Indeed, he's using the right tool for what he's skating.

Speaking of tools...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on November 14, 2023, 11:01:17 AM
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It also seems that ben only skates his backyard TF for the most part now which is just ledges, curb, manny pad, flat and a small mini ramp all in a fairly contained area so makes sense that short board plus ventures works for that. If he was out skating parks, hips and different kinds of terrain maybe it would trigger some madness again who knows
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Indeed, he's using the right tool for what he's skating.

Speaking of tools...

speaking of tools?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 14, 2023, 11:33:41 AM
It also seems that ben only skates his backyard TF for the most part now which is just ledges, curb, manny pad, flat and a small mini ramp all in a fairly contained area so makes sense that short board plus ventures works for that. If he was out skating parks, hips and different kinds of terrain maybe it would trigger some madness again who knows

To be fair to Ben he does have some street footy, that one park with the most perfect looking long ledge, and did that mini Youtuber tour.  But you're tho- for the most part its permutations of the same basic obstacles in almost the same dimensions. Which makes me wonder how come I can't get short boards and Ventures to work...

What I found with them was that the board just didn't fee as comfy and I missed the pop and no one is really interested in seeing my nollie heels that barely pop high enough for the wheels to clear.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on November 15, 2023, 01:49:47 AM
To be fair to Ben he does have some street footy, that one park with the most perfect looking long ledge, and did that mini Youtuber tour.  But you're tho- for the most part its permutations of the same basic obstacles in almost the same dimensions. Which makes me wonder how come I can't get short boards and Ventures to work...

What I found with them was that the board just didn't fee as comfy and I missed the pop and no one is really interested in seeing my nollie heels that barely pop high enough for the wheels to clear.

I feel you -- as much as I love Ventures, shorter decks / wb's just seem to f*ck me up. With the wide wb effect this is admittedly somehow counterintuitive. I don't know. Maybe it's just me and my muscle memory, but still.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on November 15, 2023, 01:51:43 AM
Which makes me wonder how come I can't get short boards and Ventures to work...

Have you had good experiences with _any_ short boards? As a fellow tall dude I've given up on boards under 32", they don't work for me outside of some very contained use cases, regardless of trucks.

In Venture specific news, I'm happy to report I'm back on the purple stock bushings. Messed around with the loose trucks conversion kit for what turned out to be much too long. Virtually all my tricks are more consistent and popped higher on the stock bushings run flush. I'm mainly posting this to keep my ass accountable if I get the urge to fuck around with bushings again.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on November 15, 2023, 02:01:08 AM
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Which makes me wonder how come I can't get short boards and Ventures to work...
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Have you had good experiences with _any_ short boards? As a fellow tall dude I've given up on boards under 32", they don't work for me outside of some very contained use cases, regardless of trucks.

In Venture specific news, I'm happy to report I'm back on the purple stock bushings. Messed around with the loose trucks conversion kit for what turned out to be much too long. Virtually all my tricks are more consistent and popped higher on the stock bushings run flush. I'm mainly posting this to keep my ass accountable if I get the urge to fuck around with bushings again.

Yes. All hail the stock purples.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on November 15, 2023, 05:31:38 AM
Anyone dig Polar shapes with Ventures? For me they feel like a good match.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lildonut92 on November 15, 2023, 05:45:19 AM
Venture Lo heads, what decks do you find pair well with them?

I’m on a Real full se 8.06. (31.5 x 14 wb) And the pop feel is so bad. I can’t figure out if I got a dud or what. The board will just not suck up to my feet no matter what. Everything just feels too immediate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: WelcomeToHell on November 15, 2023, 05:47:07 AM
Just converted to Ventures for my popsicle boards and absolutely love them. The big boys and football shapes still get Indys.

I’m running the Skate Jawn 5.6 V Cast. Curious what the different bushing colors mean. The Skate Jawn bushings are red, but I’ve seen white and purple as well. Does it indicate hardness like Indys or is it just different colors?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on November 15, 2023, 05:54:03 AM
Just converted to Ventures for my popsicle boards and absolutely love them. The big boys and football shapes still get Indys.

I’m running the Skate Jawn 5.6 V Cast. Curious what the different bushing colors mean. The Skate Jawn bushings are red, but I’ve seen white and purple as well. Does it indicate hardness like Indys or is it just different colors?

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Bushing colors doesn’t matter right for ventures ? All the same durometer ?
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What's the duro of the stock purples? I keep finding contradictory info online.
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all stock bushings are 90A regardless of color
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petition to change the thread title to "Venture 2020: all stock bushings are 90A regardless of color"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on November 15, 2023, 05:54:34 AM
 What is the lightest Thunder and how much lighter is it than the hollow Venture highs
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 15, 2023, 06:08:48 AM
Anyone dig Polar shapes with Ventures? For me they feel like a good match.
im riding the 9.0 popsicle with 6.1 hollows, feels real right
gonna run this indefinitely and focus on consistency

dane1 with the same trucks was a fun time
but short boards no longer suit my skating

what you got setup?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on November 15, 2023, 06:16:44 AM
What is the lightest Thunder and how much lighter is it than the hollow Venture highs
be more specific with the size to get a real answer
thunder smallest size is 143 (7.125 axle)
the narrowest venture is 5.0 (7.63 axle)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on November 15, 2023, 06:29:41 AM
Venture Lo heads, what decks do you find pair well with them?

I’m on a Real full se 8.06. (31.5 x 14 wb) And the pop feel is so bad. I can’t figure out if I got a dud or what. The board will just not suck up to my feet no matter what. Everything just feels too immediate.

Try a longer deck with a longer wheelbase? I'm pretty sure you'll be happier with a close to 32 x 14.25 wb deck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on November 15, 2023, 06:31:44 AM
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Anyone dig Polar shapes with Ventures? For me they feel like a good match.
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im riding the 9.0 popsicle with 6.1 hollows, feels real right
gonna run this indefinitely and focus on consistency

dane1 with the same trucks was a fun time
but short boards no longer suit my skating

what you got setup?

Good to hear man. I'm currently running a 8.125 x 32 x 14.25 popsicle with 5.6 V-Lights. There's something there. Anything shorter (especially wb-wise) feels off.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on November 15, 2023, 06:46:01 AM
https://youtu.be/MlGyiia_uYY?si=pFKktOhvelPLqmFw

Schoolyard skating just looks so good with Lows
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 15, 2023, 07:20:53 AM
https://youtu.be/MlGyiia_uYY?si=pFKktOhvelPLqmFw

Schoolyard skating just looks so good with Lows

pretty sure he’s on thunders in that part. fuck i love trilogy.

your comment that lo’s and schoolyard skating goes together holds true.


as to ventures and decks. i’ve got a krooked truefit i can’t skate with any trucks.
other than that i usually ride a ps stix 8.125 (trying to ride a bigger board than this, we’ll see).
with lo’s i can generally adjust to whatever deck, with the forged plate hi’s i’m finding them pretty agreeable to most decks. sometimes i need to play around with the wheel height.
short answer: flat ps stix boards.
boards that i want to try them with: 8.38 eagle/dreamer shape, that limosine 9”, the polar 9”


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: WelcomeToHell on November 15, 2023, 07:56:09 AM
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Just converted to Ventures for my popsicle boards and absolutely love them. The big boys and football shapes still get Indys.

I’m running the Skate Jawn 5.6 V Cast. Curious what the different bushing colors mean. The Skate Jawn bushings are red, but I’ve seen white and purple as well. Does it indicate hardness like Indys or is it just different colors?
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Bushing colors doesn’t matter right for ventures ? All the same durometer ?
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What's the duro of the stock purples? I keep finding contradictory info online.
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all stock bushings are 90A regardless of color
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petition to change the thread title to "Venture 2020: all stock bushings are 90A regardless of color"
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Thank you! I guess I could have searched the thread. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: JugeL on November 15, 2023, 09:40:52 AM
Venture Lo heads, what decks do you find pair well with them?

I’m on a Real full se 8.06. (31.5 x 14 wb) And the pop feel is so bad. I can’t figure out if I got a dud or what. The board will just not suck up to my feet no matter what. Everything just feels too immediate.
Skated couple boards that were g008 shape (31.85 & 14.25) and pop was okay. Flatground was really on point. Next board is 31.3 & 14 just to try out shorter board for change. Yet to skate it but maybe next week i have something to report.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: RichardBarkley on November 15, 2023, 12:21:28 PM
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What is the lightest Thunder and how much lighter is it than the hollow Venture highs
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be more specific with the size to get a real answer
thunder smallest size is 143 (7.125 axle)
the narrowest venture is 5.0 (7.63 axle)

Venture 5.2 high
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 15, 2023, 12:58:37 PM
the lightest thunder is noticeably lighter than the lightest Venture.....that said, the venture is easily light enough....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manuduncan on November 15, 2023, 08:49:18 PM
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Which makes me wonder how come I can't get short boards and Ventures to work...
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Have you had good experiences with _any_ short boards? As a fellow tall dude I've given up on boards under 32", they don't work for me outside of some very contained use cases, regardless of trucks.

In Venture specific news, I'm happy to report I'm back on the purple stock bushings. Messed around with the loose trucks conversion kit for what turned out to be much too long. Virtually all my tricks are more consistent and popped higher on the stock bushings run flush. I'm mainly posting this to keep my ass accountable if I get the urge to fuck around with bushings again.
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Yes. All hail the stock purples.

Where do you buy the stock purples?  Can’t seem to find any online
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 15, 2023, 11:34:53 PM
The only way to get stock bushings is to have a proper defect and get them warrantied. It sucks because DLX could easily sell them as they do for Thunder.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on November 16, 2023, 08:06:30 AM
The only way to get stock bushings is to have a proper defect and get them warrantied. It sucks because DLX could easily sell them as they do for Thunder.

they come free in every set of venture brand skateboarding trucksTM
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manuduncan on November 16, 2023, 08:41:52 AM
lmao damn that sucks, trucks last me like over a year but bushings several months

i have some spare ace hard bushings laying around i'll pop those in and report back i suppose

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BurgerCop on November 16, 2023, 12:44:22 PM
What is the lightest Thunder and how much lighter is it than the hollow Venture highs

I'm about to make the dive from Thunder to Venture so I've been looking at this stuff already.
My front and back nose slides are fine but my front and back tails always scrrrt and half the time I get bucked off the ledge. I'm sure my form is partially to blame, but I want to try a different truck to see how much the baseplate issue is messing me up (if at all)

According to Tactics...

(https://i.imgur.com/rSEcw4k.png)

Jesus, if this is accurate the 8.75 Thunder is lighter than the 7.6 Venture.
That's kinda making me rethink this experiment...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 16, 2023, 12:51:48 PM
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What is the lightest Thunder and how much lighter is it than the hollow Venture highs
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I'm about to make the dive from Thunder to Venture so I've been looking at this stuff already.
My front and back nose slides are fine but my front and back tails always scrrrt and half the time I get bucked off the ledge. I'm sure my form is partially to blame, but I want to try a different truck to see how much the baseplate issue is messing me up (if at all)

According to Tactics...

(https://i.imgur.com/rSEcw4k.png)

Jesus, if this is accurate the 8.75 Thunder is lighter than the 7.6 Venture.
That's kinda making me rethink this experiment...

it’s dope that you shared the tactics info.
for a more apples to apples comparison, you would want to compare the venture v-lights to the thunder lights, not the hollow lights. thunder hollow lights: forged plate, hollow kingpin, AND hollow axle. venture v-lights: forged plate, hollow kingpin, solid axle.
for what it is worth, i’ve been a big forged plate hater. somehow that has completely reversed, i now prefer forged plates, but also prefer the solid axle. feels better when i grind (which is pretty rare and really crappy. but that’s my feeling).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 16, 2023, 05:39:00 PM
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What is the lightest Thunder and how much lighter is it than the hollow Venture highs
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I'm about to make the dive from Thunder to Venture so I've been looking at this stuff already.
My front and back nose slides are fine but my front and back tails always scrrrt and half the time I get bucked off the ledge. I'm sure my form is partially to blame, but I want to try a different truck to see how much the baseplate issue is messing me up (if at all)

According to Tactics...

(https://i.imgur.com/rSEcw4k.png)

Jesus, if this is accurate the 8.75 Thunder is lighter than the 7.6 Venture.
That's kinda making me rethink this experiment...
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it’s dope that you shared the tactics info.
for a more apples to apples comparison, you would want to compare the venture v-lights to the thunder lights, not the hollow lights. thunder hollow lights: forged plate, hollow kingpin, AND hollow axle. venture v-lights: forged plate, hollow kingpin, solid axle.
for what it is worth, i’ve been a big forged plate hater. somehow that has completely reversed, i now prefer forged plates, but also prefer the solid axle. feels better when i grind (which is pretty rare and really crappy. but that’s my feeling).

My quick math and guesstimate from years of stressing over truck weight is that Thunder is around 5-10% lighter than a comparable Venture. Off Tactics:

Venture 5.2 HI V-Hollow - 323.8g
Thunder 147 Hollow Lights - 300.9g

Venture 5.6 V-Hollow - 333.2g
Thunder 148 Hollow Light - 324g

Works out to around 2.89 - 7.61% difference in the above examples. More than percentage points on weight I found the heft and pop feel of a board is influenced less by grams and more about how much they shift the wheelbase. And IMO weight starts becoming more pronounced above 8.25 truck sizes, those 8.5 trucks start feeling heavy but you could adapt to it over a few sessions.

Ben's summary of truck weight is helpful here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDHD12Bshcc&pp=ygUPYmVuIGRlZ3JvcyBpbmR5

Also I haven't ridden Thunders in close to 2 years, been on the Venture program and (almost) no thoughts of switching.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 18, 2023, 10:23:29 AM
that venture v-light restock would be nice
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Puddy Smally on November 18, 2023, 10:37:47 AM
I like a heavier heftier feeling truck personally.

I just switched from team A to V  ;D

Enjoying the pop, and pleasantly surprised the turn isn’t nearly as bad as I remember. I feel like Venture has either improved, or my friends were straight cranking their trucks down back in the day.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on November 19, 2023, 12:43:32 AM
I like a heavier heftier feeling truck personally.

I just switched from team A to V  ;D

Enjoying the pop, and pleasantly surprised the turn isn’t nearly as bad as I remember. I feel like Venture has either improved, or my friends were straight cranking their trucks down back in the day.

Yeah I think the "Ventures don't turn" narrative is just that, a narrative that's blown out of proportions and is probably mostly kept alive by people who don't actually even skate Ventures. I skate them on transition no problem. The turn is actually kind of big-wave surfy and balanced for sizeable transition lines. One can lean on the turn and not dip out too easily.

I mean, if I skated only transition, I'd probably choose Indy or Ace, but for an all-around truck, Venture is just as good as any.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Puddy Smally on November 19, 2023, 04:33:39 AM
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I like a heavier heftier feeling truck personally.

I just switched from team A to V  ;D

Enjoying the pop, and pleasantly surprised the turn isn’t nearly as bad as I remember. I feel like Venture has either improved, or my friends were straight cranking their trucks down back in the day.
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Yeah I think the "Ventures don't turn" narrative is just that, a narrative that's blown out of proportions and is probably mostly kept alive by people who don't actually even skate Ventures. I skate them on transition no problem. The turn is actually kind of big-wave surfy and balanced for sizeable transition lines. One can lean on the turn and not dip out too easily.

I mean, if I skated only transition, I'd probably choose Indy or Ace, but for an all-around truck, Venture is just as good as any.

Agreed, I felt kind of silly I was hanging onto some sort of false judgement I’ve held for a couple of decades.

The turn is honestly fantastic.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: WelcomeToHell on November 19, 2023, 05:00:11 AM
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I like a heavier heftier feeling truck personally.

I just switched from team A to V  ;D

Enjoying the pop, and pleasantly surprised the turn isn’t nearly as bad as I remember. I feel like Venture has either improved, or my friends were straight cranking their trucks down back in the day.
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Yeah I think the "Ventures don't turn" narrative is just that, a narrative that's blown out of proportions and is probably mostly kept alive by people who don't actually even skate Ventures. I skate them on transition no problem. The turn is actually kind of big-wave surfy and balanced for sizeable transition lines. One can lean on the turn and not dip out too easily.

I mean, if I skated only transition, I'd probably choose Indy or Ace, but for an all-around truck, Venture is just as good as any.
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Agreed, I felt kind of silly I was hanging onto some sort of false judgement I’ve held for a couple of decades.

The turn is honestly fantastic.

Same. I came from nearly 3 decades of Indy use and I love the way Ventures turn. It’s just different. They’re not super twitchy when you lean going fast or come off a ledge squirrely, but they turn just fine and I can ride them a lot looser than Indys.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nopopnostyle on November 19, 2023, 07:19:59 AM
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I like a heavier heftier feeling truck personally.

I just switched from team A to V  ;D

Enjoying the pop, and pleasantly surprised the turn isn’t nearly as bad as I remember. I feel like Venture has either improved, or my friends were straight cranking their trucks down back in the day.
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Yeah I think the "Ventures don't turn" narrative is just that, a narrative that's blown out of proportions and is probably mostly kept alive by people who don't actually even skate Ventures. I skate them on transition no problem. The turn is actually kind of big-wave surfy and balanced for sizeable transition lines. One can lean on the turn and not dip out too easily.

I mean, if I skated only transition, I'd probably choose Indy or Ace, but for an all-around truck, Venture is just as good as any.
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Agreed, I felt kind of silly I was hanging onto some sort of false judgement I’ve held for a couple of decades.

The turn is honestly fantastic.
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Same. I came from nearly 3 decades of Indy use and I love the way Ventures turn. It’s just different. They’re not super twitchy when you lean going fast or come off a ledge squirrely, but they turn just fine and I can ride them a lot looser than Indys.

Same here, after 34 years on Indy I am happy to state that I feel Awake.
In my years I've had several cases of "Truck-Madness" and always came back to Indy. This time I couldn't come back though 'cause I just couldn't get them to feel right anymore. And believe me I've tried, spent a fortune on different Indy-Variations and bushings but to no avail. Stepped on a friends board and decided to try for myself. Bought a set of Ted Barrow 5.8 V-Cast Hollows in July and really love it every time I step on my setup.
I also feel that Ventures either improved or that I was just too preoccupied by the "they don't turn narrative".
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on November 19, 2023, 08:27:03 AM
Speaking of cast and forged -- how do you guys find the difference in feel/performance, if any? I know that the forged plates push out the wheelbase slightly more and are a tiny bit lower, but I've no clue if there's a difference to be felt when actually riding the trucks, as I've only been on forged V-Lights (Hi) ever since I woke up.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 19, 2023, 08:53:54 AM
i have loudly complained about forged baseplates in the past. i have since come to like forged baseplates (i prefer solid axles, both for weight, and the sound/feel).
on lo’s i skate the cast plate, hi’s the forged baseplates.

if anyone has any forged baseplates they are trying to pass along, hmu
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on November 19, 2023, 11:23:57 AM
When I had them as a kid back in like 2007 they did not turn and felt really heavy, I will not forget that, but again could've been a litany of things like having them cranked, being a little kid, etc. I think I started skating them again back in like 2019 when that bobby part came out and they definitely felt way better than when I was a kid.

allegedly they did change them up when they went from street corner to dlx, but I dont have my original set to compare them personally to a new set.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: WelcomeToHell on November 20, 2023, 01:21:27 PM
Bought a set of Ted Barrow 5.8 V-Cast Hollows in July and really love it every time I step on my setup.
I also feel that Ventures either improved or that I was just too preoccupied by the "they don't turn narrative".

I went with the Skate Jawn 5.6 V-Cast Hollows. Absolutely love them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 20, 2023, 03:07:14 PM
When I had them as a kid back in like 2007 they did not turn and felt really heavy, I will not forget that, but again could've been a litany of things like having them cranked, being a little kid, etc. I think I started skating them again back in like 2019 when that bobby part came out and they definitely felt way better than when I was a kid.

allegedly they did change them up when they went from street corner to dlx, but I dont have my original set to compare them personally to a new set.



The main thing I noticed was older bushings were way harder compared to the newer / current ones, which could have had a lot to do with it.

Some places used to list the duro, with Venture bushings being 98 or something in the stock, both purple and red, whereas now they are all a uniform 90 duro from Venture, same as Thunder, Indy, etc.

Any which way, skating some old Ventures were very different to the newer ones, so as you said, DLX changed things with the trucks when they took over distro of them in 2011 or whenever that was.

Swapping bushings between old and new sets did seem to make the old ones a bit better, but it is other things too that have changed.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 20, 2023, 10:17:33 PM
Same thing happened to me in 2007, got some destructos and never looked back……no regrets….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 20, 2023, 11:49:11 PM
Bushings back in the day were terrible across the board especially the older Indy bushings. I think we all remember Ventures being tight b/c people ran the lows, which obviously are more prone to wheelbite, and at least when I started skating all the really good local skaters I knew ran their shit tight. The first time I went to Pier 7 I nerded out on peoples setups and I remember how cranked a ton of them were. While not Venture, Rob Welsh had his Indys exploding on the rear truck yet he could still swerve in a line.

The bad turning now is exaggerated a lot. They don't have the same inherent super loose carve, but you can learn to just lean harder and get something workable just fine. If you're skating super tight bowls you're likely either not selecting Ventures to begin with or you're good enough it doesn't matter. Theres a group of older skaters near me that pad up and only skate the bowls at the local parks and their goal is just to hit the tile before the coping and most don't even grind it and they all run fucking cranked Indys on big shaped boards and have a blast so most of us mortals could probably do OK too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on November 21, 2023, 12:07:21 AM
Bushings back in the day were terrible across the board especially the older Indy bushings. I think we all remember Ventures being tight b/c people ran the lows, which obviously are more prone to wheelbite, and at least when I started skating all the really good local skaters I knew ran their shit tight. The first time I went to Pier 7 I nerded out on peoples setups and I remember how cranked a ton of them were. While not Venture, Rob Welsh had his Indys exploding on the rear truck yet he could still swerve in a line.

The bad turning now is exaggerated a lot. They don't have the same inherent super loose carve, but you can learn to just lean harder and get something workable just fine. If you're skating super tight bowls you're likely either not selecting Ventures to begin with or you're good enough it doesn't matter. Theres a group of older skaters near me that pad up and only skate the bowls at the local parks and their goal is just to hit the tile before the coping and most don't even grind it and they all run fucking cranked Indys on big shaped boards and have a blast so most of us mortals could probably do OK too.

Yeah, this pretty much. When I run my transition/bowl setup (a bit wider board w/ Indys), I run the trucks pretty tight with blue medium hards and the turn/feeling is not actually that different from Ventures. Hence, I could probably ride Ventures even if I only skated trannies.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on November 21, 2023, 12:24:57 PM
so i have a pair of pre dlx lows and the biggest difference i can tell is the pivot knob(?) is a bit thicker. swapping a newer hanger into the old baseplate there's some wiggle room (kind of expected in an old baseplate/pivotcup though) and swapping the old hanger into a newer baseplate it's super snug. to be fair both my old pairs are dipped/painted so that might have something to do with it as well, but without breaking out calipers i can't tell any other glaring differences between new and old
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 21, 2023, 12:54:01 PM
i know of two older guys that skated venture 5.2 hi’s for the longest time. after the dlx changeover one started skating indy, the other ace. the guy that went to indy said he didn’t like the ‘new’ venture geo.
i didn’t skate hi’s until the bobby part. so i’m unable to say that they are different.
i did skate venture mids, but that was way way back.

unrelated: the ventures that phil shao skated looked the best out of any truck. ever.

the venture loose truck kit is fun. is anyone running these flush!? i am getting wasted and i’ve got more than a few threads showing.

i’ve been enjoying the pop on forged 5.6 hi’s. been a hi hater. like the forged baseplates.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 21, 2023, 04:26:36 PM

the venture loose truck kit is fun. is anyone running these flush!? i am getting wasted and i’ve got more than a few threads showing.



Re Venture "loose bushing kit"

Set them up just to see what they were like on a normal board and it was crazy loose, but then put them on a set of well used trucks, you could say tightened down on a kingpin that had been angle grinded down three or so threads, so they were more on par with a normal bushing running with kingpin nut flush and they actually worked really well at that point.

Some of the very small, light weight kids have them on their boards and they work well for them with a decent amount of turn for their weight on an assortment of trucks, not just Venture, so I am glad I did get a few sets.

Others who had bought them thinking they were going to unlock new looseness were often left disappointed as they didn't tighten them down a whole lot and were so loose those guys found them hard to skate, but at least having the option to tighten down the kingpin nut is better than having the kingpin nut falling off, which I used to see quite a bit with people who wanted the trucks to have more turn but didn't want to cut the bushings or get softer ones.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SupremePizza on November 22, 2023, 07:06:36 AM
the venture loose truck kit is fun. is anyone running these flush!? i am getting wasted and i’ve got more than a few threads showing.


I ran them for the last year flush until recently when they finally broke in and just started to feel uncontrollably loose even with a thread showing. Before that I really enjoyed them. I just put the stock top bushings back in and have been happy with them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on November 22, 2023, 09:06:05 AM
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the venture loose truck kit is fun. is anyone running these flush!? i am getting wasted and i’ve got more than a few threads showing.

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Re Venture "loose bushing kit"

Set them up just to see what they were like on a normal board and it was crazy loose, but then put them on a set of well used trucks, you could say tightened down on a kingpin that had been angle grinded down three or so threads, so they were more on par with a normal bushing running with kingpin nut flush and they actually worked really well at that point.

Some of the very small, light weight kids have them on their boards and they work well for them with a decent amount of turn for their weight on an assortment of trucks, not just Venture, so I am glad I did get a few sets.

Others who had bought them thinking they were going to unlock new looseness were often left disappointed as they didn't tighten them down a whole lot and were so loose those guys found them hard to skate, but at least having the option to tighten down the kingpin nut is better than having the kingpin nut falling off, which I used to see quite a bit with people who wanted the trucks to have more turn but didn't want to cut the bushings or get softer ones.

Kinda based on your comment on the ground down kingpin.  I'm surprised more people haven't bought these for lows, ran them to their normal tightness, and cut the kingpin down for more clearance.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 22, 2023, 03:30:47 PM
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the venture loose truck kit is fun. is anyone running these flush!? i am getting wasted and i’ve got more than a few threads showing.

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Re Venture "loose bushing kit"

Set them up just to see what they were like on a normal board and it was crazy loose, but then put them on a set of well used trucks, you could say tightened down on a kingpin that had been angle grinded down three or so threads, so they were more on par with a normal bushing running with kingpin nut flush and they actually worked really well at that point.

Some of the very small, light weight kids have them on their boards and they work well for them with a decent amount of turn for their weight on an assortment of trucks, not just Venture, so I am glad I did get a few sets.

Others who had bought them thinking they were going to unlock new looseness were often left disappointed as they didn't tighten them down a whole lot and were so loose those guys found them hard to skate, but at least having the option to tighten down the kingpin nut is better than having the kingpin nut falling off, which I used to see quite a bit with people who wanted the trucks to have more turn but didn't want to cut the bushings or get softer ones.
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Kinda based on your comment on the ground down kingpin.  I'm surprised more people haven't bought these for lows, ran them to their normal tightness, and cut the kingpin down for more clearance.


Yes I have probably talked too much about it, but anyone either having trucks that need more kingpin clearance, or have grinded the hanger down so the kingpin is now a problem, using an angle grinder to take the kingpin down and using the low tops really make things work way better.

Same as when we used to have to cut bushings down when we were trying to make things work as a normal bushing would just not fit in a well used truck, when there were no options that came like this back in the day.


Any which way, it is something that does work well enough, but I also think some people are not so keen to make a permanent change to something like kingins, which then make it difficult to fit any kind of standard bushings, which is totally understandable too.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 26, 2023, 05:58:35 PM
Had a bad experience with the Krux 92a medium hard bushings, gave them up after a sessions and went back to stock purples.

Been riding tighter trucks for a more consistent pop and thought I'd give the Krux bushings a shot since they are supposed to be medium hard. Despite being 92a they were incredibly mushy even after breaking in. They turn but the moment I pop for a kickflip they mush out and I'm ghost popping, tanked my kickflip consistency by 90%. I had to be extremely precise with the pop to avoid whiffing, reminded me of riding Ace trucks.

The rest of the setup was the same, right down to the hardware. Swapped back to stock purples midway through the Sunday session and I was back at home, kickflips and 360 flips back on point.

Anything Krux is cursed, stock Venture bushings for life!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 26, 2023, 06:09:12 PM
skated some cast 6.1s today, swapped in some old maroon bushings, as i’m pretty over the loose trucks kit.
got tons of wheelbite on a hot-rod setup (8.38 shop board, they claimed bbs, had just one dimple between the front bolt holes, looks like bbs concave).
makes no sense, but the set-up was awesome. didn’t skate amazing, but had more fun than i’ve had in awhile
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 27, 2023, 11:19:34 AM
Venture selling 'loose trucks' now, must have missed this? Standard cast with the loose truck bushings kit stock.

https://shop.ccs.com/collections/venture/products/venture-loose-skateboard-trucks-polished-5-8

(https://i.ibb.co/DRhp82x/Screenshot-2023-11-27-122038.png) (https://ibb.co/DRhp82x)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 27, 2023, 11:39:57 AM
Is the kingpin any lower? It sorta looks like it in the second pic but Ventures already have such good clearance.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Vexed on November 27, 2023, 11:42:48 AM

Maybe there will be a ‘medium truck conversion kit’ aka aftermarket stock purps… ::)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 27, 2023, 11:53:24 AM

Maybe there will be a ‘medium truck conversion kit’ aka aftermarket stock purps… ::)

fuck i wish
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 27, 2023, 12:47:10 PM
For those who want to ride tight trucks but don’t want to admit to it, we now offer the XM, extra medium.  Wanna crop dust a nollie heel and save your nose?  Extra medium!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on November 27, 2023, 01:23:00 PM
Venture high kingpin clearance is already amazing.  Would much rather see 5.6/5.8 lows than this. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on November 27, 2023, 02:18:17 PM
Would much rather see 5.6/5.8 lows than this.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on November 27, 2023, 02:46:35 PM
For those who want to ride tight trucks but don’t want to admit to it, we now offer the XM, extra medium.  Wanna crop dust a nollie heel and save your nose?  Extra medium!

extra medium is a great name.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 27, 2023, 04:13:06 PM
Venture selling 'loose trucks' now, must have missed this? Standard cast with the loose truck bushings kit stock.

https://shop.ccs.com/collections/venture/products/venture-loose-skateboard-trucks-polished-5-8

(https://i.ibb.co/DRhp82x/Screenshot-2023-11-27-122038.png) (https://ibb.co/DRhp82x)


Is the kingpin any lower? It sorta looks like it in the second pic but Ventures already have such good clearance.



Same trucks, just with the green low top bushings in them.

I saw the catalog info about them, which made sense, but as far as shops now having to order more of whatever the same truck is just to get some standard and some with the loose kit bushings could be a bit much for some places.

Of course then there could also be the people who buy them and don't realise, maybe just wanted green bushings and then as per some people on here, complain about them being too loose.

Either way, not a worry to me.


I could definitely see the use in the low trucks, then taking down the kingpin for more clearance, as per the older Indy bushings in their low trucks with shorter kingpins, but I don't think that would be worthwhile.



Maybe there will be a ‘medium truck conversion kit’ aka aftermarket stock purps… ::)


I do think it would be a good idea to bring out the regular bushings in aftermarket packs as well, seeing as Supercush seems to be out of stock everywhere, or not being made any more.

There might be a few people swapping those green bushings out pretty quickly too.

From all the people changing out bushings over the years, I have a lot of the stock bushings, more so from Indy, but also a good number from Venture too, but it is almost silly how some shops automatically upsell customers to Bones bushings, without the person even trying the stock bushings, like one shop I know round here...



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 27, 2023, 04:49:29 PM
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Would much rather see 5.6/5.8 lows than this.
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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on November 27, 2023, 05:23:23 PM
5.6 lows will never happen, just like the return of Radial Slims, but I appreciate y'all keepin the fight alive. 🙏
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 27, 2023, 05:46:52 PM
5.6 lows will never happen, just like the return of Radial Slims, but I appreciate y'all keepin the fight alive. 🙏

Man, what a combo that would be.

WTF DLX
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on November 27, 2023, 06:25:20 PM
Seems like when the demand went up, other truck companies put more in the market place, DLX stayed put….not a bad move….they did release the cast hollows which everyone was clamouring for…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 27, 2023, 07:02:51 PM
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5.6 lows will never happen, just like the return of Radial Slims, but I appreciate y'all keepin the fight alive. 🙏
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Man, what a combo that would be.

WTF DLX

5.6 / 5.8 LO + Radial Slims would be a beautiful combo, that would end that side of my madness for sure!

(for at least 6 months)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 27, 2023, 07:15:27 PM
SW has the 'loose edition' with the current sale

https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Venture_Loose_Team_Edition_Trucks/descpage-VTLSTR.html

FWIW I ran Ace bottoms with the LOW hard top and it was perfect on ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 27, 2023, 11:42:07 PM
Are that many people riding the loose kit? Other than Slap I have never seen any in the wild but then again SD people are always amazed I'm on Ventures in the first place.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on November 28, 2023, 01:59:26 AM
Are that many people riding the loose kit? Other than Slap I have never seen any in the wild but then again SD people are always amazed I'm on Ventures in the first place.

SD seems like Theeve territory based on the Mystery team a lot of them seem to be sponsored by Theeve
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on November 28, 2023, 03:02:30 AM
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Would much rather see 5.6/5.8 lows than this.
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i mean this is just a bushing switch, for wider lows they would have to get new molds and shit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on November 28, 2023, 04:11:02 AM
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Are that many people riding the loose kit? Other than Slap I have never seen any in the wild but then again SD people are always amazed I'm on Ventures in the first place.
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SD seems like Theeve territory based on the Mystery team a lot of them seem to be sponsored by Theeve

Rhino lives here so it's basically:

Indy: 80%
Ace: 10%
Thunder: 5%

And then everything else here or there.

He's definitely showed up to parks and offered people not riding Indy's a free set and hooks up a lot of younger kids that show potential, older dudes that aren't pro but rip, and friends of the above.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 28, 2023, 03:21:30 PM
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Are that many people riding the loose kit? Other than Slap I have never seen any in the wild but then again SD people are always amazed I'm on Ventures in the first place.
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SD seems like Theeve territory based on the Mystery team a lot of them seem to be sponsored by Theeve


They were through the same distro, but not sure now.

Any which way, I feel like the percentage of skaters on that brand are less than .1% so even though at peak there was a fair bit more interest than there is now (I might be being generous there) but it seemed like there were still not that many people riding them apart from those who got them from team packages and connections and the like.

Not hating, but just making observations.

Either way, the big four are the big four for a reason - they do the job and do it well.


As for seeing people riding those green bushings, not many at all from what I have seen, but the kids do benefit from them the most - not having to modify them, can just put them in and away they go.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Kaydubbb on November 29, 2023, 02:21:17 AM
Just got some venture 6.1s with the cast baseplate to try, haven't ridden ventures in about a decade and have been floating between Indy and Ace and most recently was enjoying the tensor ATG. I wanted something with an 8.75 axel to slap on my new quasi 8.625, and holy shit the wheel bite on these is insane. I'm pretty having at around 105kg and I've tried a few different bushing combos but man these wheel bite fast, anyone else experience this? Always read that venture were good for wheel bite.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: juniormint on November 29, 2023, 03:01:01 AM
Just got some venture 6.1s with the cast baseplate to try, haven't ridden ventures in about a decade and have been floating between Indy and Ace and most recently was enjoying the tensor ATG. I wanted something with an 8.75 axel to slap on my new quasi 8.625, and holy shit the wheel bite on these is insane. I'm pretty having at around 105kg and I've tried a few different bushing combos but man these wheel bite fast, anyone else experience this? Always read that venture were good for wheel bite.

I hover at around 90kg and have always found the blue Indy aftermarket’s great in my 6.1s. Maybe try the black Indy ones or potentially where you are some deluxe tack and supply black ones.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Kaydubbb on November 29, 2023, 03:07:42 AM
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Just got some venture 6.1s with the cast baseplate to try, haven't ridden ventures in about a decade and have been floating between Indy and Ace and most recently was enjoying the tensor ATG. I wanted something with an 8.75 axel to slap on my new quasi 8.625, and holy shit the wheel bite on these is insane. I'm pretty having at around 105kg and I've tried a few different bushing combos but man these wheel bite fast, anyone else experience this? Always read that venture were good for wheel bite.
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I hover at around 90kg and have always found the blue Indy aftermarket’s great in my 6.1s. Maybe try the black Indy ones or potentially where you are some deluxe tack and supply black ones.

I've tried the black Indy bushings and purple tack and supply, ones both didn't work. I'm running 53mm bones v5 shape and it just feels like theres almost no room between start of turn and then wheelbite. The only way I can get them half decent is with an ace hard bushing board side and a bones hard road side, but I've never enjoyed the way bones bushings feel. I probably just need to lose some weight.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on November 29, 2023, 02:10:27 PM
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Just got some venture 6.1s with the cast baseplate to try, haven't ridden ventures in about a decade and have been floating between Indy and Ace and most recently was enjoying the tensor ATG. I wanted something with an 8.75 axel to slap on my new quasi 8.625, and holy shit the wheel bite on these is insane. I'm pretty having at around 105kg and I've tried a few different bushing combos but man these wheel bite fast, anyone else experience this? Always read that venture were good for wheel bite.
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I hover at around 90kg and have always found the blue Indy aftermarket’s great in my 6.1s. Maybe try the black Indy ones or potentially where you are some deluxe tack and supply black ones.
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I've tried the black Indy bushings and purple tack and supply, ones both didn't work. I'm running 53mm bones v5 shape and it just feels like theres almost no room between start of turn and then wheelbite. The only way I can get them half decent is with an ace hard bushing board side and a bones hard road side, but I've never enjoyed the way bones bushings feel. I probably just need to lose some weight.

Sounds like you need:

Yellow Indys @96a if the 94a blks don't work....
Or go white 98a/blk 100s doh dohs....
....or 100a Mini Logos (underrated bushings cuz ML).

Dropping a few pounds does help. I'm cutting and already down 5lbs at around 193 but bumped to indy blacks from indy blue (nut flush/149s).

I found that after riding Ventures, I wanted all my trucks to be tight and turn less :P Royals (with ACE hards) might as well be ACEs for me now...Even Indys with blks I had to crank down from nut flush to get where I wanted them.

Switch back to (149) Ventures and doing fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Creachteach on November 29, 2023, 02:32:06 PM
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Just got some venture 6.1s with the cast baseplate to try, haven't ridden ventures in about a decade and have been floating between Indy and Ace and most recently was enjoying the tensor ATG. I wanted something with an 8.75 axel to slap on my new quasi 8.625, and holy shit the wheel bite on these is insane. I'm pretty having at around 105kg and I've tried a few different bushing combos but man these wheel bite fast, anyone else experience this? Always read that venture were good for wheel bite.
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I hover at around 90kg and have always found the blue Indy aftermarket’s great in my 6.1s. Maybe try the black Indy ones or potentially where you are some deluxe tack and supply black ones.
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I've tried the black Indy bushings and purple tack and supply, ones both didn't work. I'm running 53mm bones v5 shape and it just feels like theres almost no room between start of turn and then wheelbite. The only way I can get them half decent is with an ace hard bushing board side and a bones hard road side, but I've never enjoyed the way bones bushings feel. I probably just need to lose some weight.

I got u bro. I’m a chonker myself. I’m down to 106, started the year at 125.

I’ve been fucking with bushings like you won’t believe.

Was given some shitty trucks by our janitor, and they had this slightly cuppier cupped washer. That goes snugly up the side of the bottom bushing.
This really stiffens up a bushing. It compresses more progressively as you get near the end of the turning action as bushing has fewer places to expand.

I’ve ditched my 169s (left) but I put in stock bushings and washers beforehand. Now I’m on 159 forged hollow and 56mm. I run them tight af. Maybe I’ll add a skinny riser. The black washer, with the mini logo 100a, and a bones hard on top really works. The mini logos are plenty good, and the bones gives it that snap back to center.

I believe there’s a longboard brand called Caliber that makes washers that looks similar. Beware that they come in different sizes.

(https://i.ibb.co/PtcKVJx/IMG-2841.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PtcKVJx)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Kaydubbb on November 30, 2023, 08:28:04 PM
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Just got some venture 6.1s with the cast baseplate to try, haven't ridden ventures in about a decade and have been floating between Indy and Ace and most recently was enjoying the tensor ATG. I wanted something with an 8.75 axel to slap on my new quasi 8.625, and holy shit the wheel bite on these is insane. I'm pretty having at around 105kg and I've tried a few different bushing combos but man these wheel bite fast, anyone else experience this? Always read that venture were good for wheel bite.
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I hover at around 90kg and have always found the blue Indy aftermarket’s great in my 6.1s. Maybe try the black Indy ones or potentially where you are some deluxe tack and supply black ones.
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I've tried the black Indy bushings and purple tack and supply, ones both didn't work. I'm running 53mm bones v5 shape and it just feels like theres almost no room between start of turn and then wheelbite. The only way I can get them half decent is with an ace hard bushing board side and a bones hard road side, but I've never enjoyed the way bones bushings feel. I probably just need to lose some weight.
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I got u bro. I’m a chonker myself. I’m down to 106, started the year at 125.

I’ve been fucking with bushings like you won’t believe.

Was given some shitty trucks by our janitor, and they had this slightly cuppier cupped washer. That goes snugly up the side of the bottom bushing.
This really stiffens up a bushing. It compresses more progressively as you get near the end of the turning action as bushing has fewer places to expand.

I’ve ditched my 169s (left) but I put in stock bushings and washers beforehand. Now I’m on 159 forged hollow and 56mm. I run them tight af. Maybe I’ll add a skinny riser. The black washer, with the mini logo 100a, and a bones hard on top really works. The mini logos are plenty good, and the bones gives it that snap back to center.

I believe there’s a longboard brand called Caliber that makes washers that looks similar. Beware that they come in different sizes.

(https://i.ibb.co/PtcKVJx/IMG-2841.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PtcKVJx)

I had some old super cupped washers laying around and I've chucked them in and your right, it's a massive improvement. Cheers for the tip.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on December 01, 2023, 04:42:45 PM

I believe there’s a longboard brand called Caliber


there was some noise on here around the release of caliber 3s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Creachteach on December 02, 2023, 04:28:26 AM
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Just got some venture 6.1s with the cast baseplate to try, haven't ridden ventures in about a decade and have been floating between Indy and Ace and most recently was enjoying the tensor ATG. I wanted something with an 8.75 axel to slap on my new quasi 8.625, and holy shit the wheel bite on these is insane. I'm pretty having at around 105kg and I've tried a few different bushing combos but man these wheel bite fast, anyone else experience this? Always read that venture were good for wheel bite.
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I hover at around 90kg and have always found the blue Indy aftermarket’s great in my 6.1s. Maybe try the black Indy ones or potentially where you are some deluxe tack and supply black ones.
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I've tried the black Indy bushings and purple tack and supply, ones both didn't work. I'm running 53mm bones v5 shape and it just feels like theres almost no room between start of turn and then wheelbite. The only way I can get them half decent is with an ace hard bushing board side and a bones hard road side, but I've never enjoyed the way bones bushings feel. I probably just need to lose some weight.
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I got u bro. I’m a chonker myself. I’m down to 106, started the year at 125.

I’ve been fucking with bushings like you won’t believe.

Was given some shitty trucks by our janitor, and they had this slightly cuppier cupped washer. That goes snugly up the side of the bottom bushing.
This really stiffens up a bushing. It compresses more progressively as you get near the end of the turning action as bushing has fewer places to expand.

I’ve ditched my 169s (left) but I put in stock bushings and washers beforehand. Now I’m on 159 forged hollow and 56mm. I run them tight af. Maybe I’ll add a skinny riser. The black washer, with the mini logo 100a, and a bones hard on top really works. The mini logos are plenty good, and the bones gives it that snap back to center.

I believe there’s a longboard brand called Caliber that makes washers that looks similar. Beware that they come in different sizes.

(https://i.ibb.co/PtcKVJx/IMG-2841.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PtcKVJx)
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I had some old super cupped washers laying around and I've chucked them in and your right, it's a massive improvement. Cheers for the tip.

Yay! I was helpful on Slap 😊
Cuppier cupped washers do wonders for wheelbite.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 02, 2023, 07:06:01 AM
The nice thing about Ventures is even when you get wheelbite you can often ride it out. I dunno how the geo works for it but I feel it slow me a bit and then rebound out rather than just get stopped dead in my tracks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on December 02, 2023, 07:22:33 AM
The nice thing about Ventures is even when you get wheelbite you can often ride it out. I dunno how the geo works for it but I feel it slow me a bit and then rebound out rather than just get stopped dead in my tracks.

Yeah, my wheelbite marks are only one specific spot with Ventures. Indys and especially Ace give you those long dragging wheelbite grooves.

If ya toss a lil wax on that one wheelbite spot with Ventures, it doesn't seem to stop you so harshly.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on December 02, 2023, 07:55:30 AM
ventures it's almost like a braking system.....you just go at a 45 degree angle while you slowly decelerate to a complete stop.....

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 08, 2023, 12:25:29 PM
gonna switch back to barrel bottoms asap
bones hards were good for a few sessions but got mushy
and with radial fulls, the wheelbite gets annoying

anyone try 98a white doh dohs or 100a mini logo bushings?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 08, 2023, 09:53:19 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/kHycqCm/IMG-20231209-004104-527.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6nZsDCX)
(https://i.ibb.co/Fx4td6T/IMG-20231209-004027-224.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ngMSKrJ)

Hey I found some extra bushings. I noticed that there's a big colour differentiation between the sf and the mexico pours.

The dark one is from right when COVID hit. The light are the current. As seen on my 6.1s. also either the kingpin is longer in 6.1s and 5.8s or the bushings are softer now.

I prefer the current clear style for sure
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 09, 2023, 04:41:50 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/kHycqCm/IMG-20231209-004104-527.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6nZsDCX)
(https://i.ibb.co/Fx4td6T/IMG-20231209-004027-224.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ngMSKrJ)

Hey I found some extra bushings. I noticed that there's a big colour differentiation between the sf and the mexico pours.

The dark one is from right when COVID hit. The light are the current. As seen on my 6.1s. also either the kingpin is longer in 6.1s and 5.8s or the bushings are softer now.

I prefer the current clear style for sure

how you liking the 6.1s?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FUBAR on December 09, 2023, 09:08:43 AM
I just started a new set of 6.1s on an 8.75 (my first 8.75) and put the black aftermarket Indy bushings in. Very nice and already feel broken in. I’m a heavier dude tho…234lbs.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chaosisme on December 09, 2023, 03:26:54 PM
I’ve skated 5.2 lows most of my life and I am very attached but the impressionable person I am has noticed pros switching to highs and I was wondering if anyone else has made this switch and what your experience was ? (5.0 and 5.2 only)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on December 09, 2023, 03:48:36 PM
I’ve skated 5.2 lows most of my life and I am very attached but the impressionable person I am has noticed pros switching to highs and I was wondering if anyone else has made this switch and what your experience was ? (5.0 and 5.2 only)

I've skated 5.2 Highs on forged plates mostly, but have spent a good amount of time on 5.2 Low cast. Switched back and forth twice I think.

Same truck and geo, just the height difference. That translates to higher effort, higher yield with the highs, and snappier, 'easier' pop on the lows FOR ME.

I like em both. If I did a lot of smith grinds and always wanted the 'best' pop, I'd choose the highs.

So far I've settled on the 5.2 forged highs on mellower boards and the 5.2 low cast on steeper boards.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chaosisme on December 09, 2023, 04:03:04 PM
Brilliant answer! Thank you!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fifty8mm on December 09, 2023, 05:13:09 PM
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I’ve skated 5.2 lows most of my life and I am very attached but the impressionable person I am has noticed pros switching to highs and I was wondering if anyone else has made this switch and what your experience was ? (5.0 and 5.2 only)
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I've skated 5.2 Highs on forged plates mostly, but have spent a good amount of time on 5.2 Low cast. Switched back and forth twice I think.

Same truck and geo, just the height difference. That translates to higher effort, higher yield with the highs, and snappier, 'easier' pop on the lows FOR ME.

I like em both. If I did a lot of smith grinds and always wanted the 'best' pop, I'd choose the highs.

So far I've settled on the 5.2 forged highs on mellower boards and the 5.2 low cast on steeper boards.

Went back and forth on both.
Same as you, great pop on High and kingpin clearance on forged and they skated really good.

smoother pinch on crooks and balance 5.2 lows on cast plates but also skated really good. Lows look better though, you don't get the big ass gap between your wheels and deck when you ride smaller wheels lol

I can do everything on both though. I mostly skate ledges and flat though. Occasionally a gap.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on December 09, 2023, 07:46:51 PM
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I’ve skated 5.2 lows most of my life and I am very attached but the impressionable person I am has noticed pros switching to highs and I was wondering if anyone else has made this switch and what your experience was ? (5.0 and 5.2 only)
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I've skated 5.2 Highs on forged plates mostly, but have spent a good amount of time on 5.2 Low cast. Switched back and forth twice I think.

Same truck and geo, just the height difference. That translates to higher effort, higher yield with the highs, and snappier, 'easier' pop on the lows FOR ME.

I like em both. If I did a lot of smith grinds and always wanted the 'best' pop, I'd choose the highs.

So far I've settled on the 5.2 forged highs on mellower boards and the 5.2 low cast on steeper boards.
This guy knows,
I’m on my first set of 5.2 highs (forged plates), rode the lows last year, y most recently on thunder 147. I’m skating the highs on a mini logo, so really mellow. The pop angle is 33 degrees.
I love this setup so far. Try it out.
The post above is pretty much my experience as well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 09, 2023, 07:56:01 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/kHycqCm/IMG-20231209-004104-527.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6nZsDCX)
(https://i.ibb.co/Fx4td6T/IMG-20231209-004027-224.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ngMSKrJ)

Hey I found some extra bushings. I noticed that there's a big colour differentiation between the sf and the mexico pours.

The dark one is from right when COVID hit. The light are the current. As seen on my 6.1s. also either the kingpin is longer in 6.1s and 5.8s or the bushings are softer now.

I prefer the current clear style for sure
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how you liking the 6.1s?


They're killer. The only downside is they're the same size as my double sided curb. With 58mm wheels you can't unlock. You just kinda go from 50 to NG and stop.

If I throw a wilder wheel on problem solved I assume. Was the same with the 5.8 when riding the 58mm Dragons.

I switched back to ogs and I was able to be on top again.

I got a new curb tho so it's fine.

Also I might order wheels tomorrow. I been looking. I can't wait till spring
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: LebowskisRug on December 10, 2023, 06:58:49 AM
Venture Lo are super fun for slappies. I had an 8" deck with them earlier this year and some 51 classics and was surprised at how fucking easy most slappy tricks were.

I enjoyed the snap at first but like other posters said the overall pop can be a bit lower than the highs. If you can adjust to the timing of the highs they will reward you but it can be frustrating if you're not used to the heft.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 10, 2023, 09:38:07 PM
Venture Lo are super fun for slappies. I had an 8" deck with them earlier this year and some 51 classics and was surprised at how fucking easy most slappy tricks were.

I enjoyed the snap at first but like other posters said the overall pop can be a bit lower than the highs. If you can adjust to the timing of the highs they will reward you but it can be frustrating if you're not used to the heft.

I agree low trucks are sick for slappies. Maybe that's why a lot of ogs swear by tracker.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on December 10, 2023, 10:50:33 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/Fx4td6T/IMG-20231209-004027-224.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ngMSKrJ)

Hey I found some extra bushings. I noticed that there's a big colour differentiation between the sf and the mexico pours.

The dark one is from right when COVID hit. The light are the current. As seen on my 6.1s. also either the kingpin is longer in 6.1s and 5.8s or the bushings are softer now.

I prefer the current clear style for sure
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how you liking the 6.1s?
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They're killer. The only downside is they're the same size as my double sided curb. With 58mm wheels you can't unlock. You just kinda go from 50 to NG and stop.

If I throw a wilder wheel on problem solved I assume. Was the same with the 5.8 when riding the 58mm Dragons.

I switched back to ogs and I was able to be on top again.

I got a new curb tho so it's fine.

Also I might order wheels tomorrow. I been looking. I can't wait till spring

I have been trying to restrain myself from buying 6.1 hollow after I just bought those 5.8 but I started skating a specific curb again that allows you to sit on top and you need an 875 truck; 149s and V3’s won’t cut it. Went to 159 forged hollows then back to 159 royals…but i was really feeling the pinch with those cast 5.8s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 14, 2023, 07:00:26 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/Fx4td6T/IMG-20231209-004027-224.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ngMSKrJ)

Hey I found some extra bushings. I noticed that there's a big colour differentiation between the sf and the mexico pours.

The dark one is from right when COVID hit. The light are the current. As seen on my 6.1s. also either the kingpin is longer in 6.1s and 5.8s or the bushings are softer now.

I prefer the current clear style for sure
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how you liking the 6.1s?
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They're killer. The only downside is they're the same size as my double sided curb. With 58mm wheels you can't unlock. You just kinda go from 50 to NG and stop.

If I throw a wilder wheel on problem solved I assume. Was the same with the 5.8 when riding the 58mm Dragons.

I switched back to ogs and I was able to be on top again.

I got a new curb tho so it's fine.

Also I might order wheels tomorrow. I been looking. I can't wait till spring
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I have been trying to restrain myself from buying 6.1 hollow after I just bought those 5.8 but I started skating a specific curb again that allows you to sit on top and you need an 875 truck; 149s and G3’s won’t cut it. Went to 159 forged hollows then back to 159 royals…but i was really feeling the pinch with those cast 5.8s.

I visited the Hobo hideaway banana ledge today.

I love this truck. The shining stock bushings are off the chain.

I am kinda playing with fire tho. I'm running -2.5 inny belly button threads with no glue.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: scab on December 15, 2023, 02:53:17 AM
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(https://i.ibb.co/Fx4td6T/IMG-20231209-004027-224.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ngMSKrJ)

Hey I found some extra bushings. I noticed that there's a big colour differentiation between the sf and the mexico pours.

The dark one is from right when COVID hit. The light are the current. As seen on my 6.1s. also either the kingpin is longer in 6.1s and 5.8s or the bushings are softer now.

I prefer the current clear style for sure
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how you liking the 6.1s?
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They're killer. The only downside is they're the same size as my double sided curb. With 58mm wheels you can't unlock. You just kinda go from 50 to NG and stop.

If I throw a wilder wheel on problem solved I assume. Was the same with the 5.8 when riding the 58mm Dragons.

I switched back to ogs and I was able to be on top again.

I got a new curb tho so it's fine.

Also I might order wheels tomorrow. I been looking. I can't wait till spring
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I have been trying to restrain myself from buying 6.1 hollow after I just bought those 5.8 but I started skating a specific curb again that allows you to sit on top and you need an 875 truck; 149s and G3’s won’t cut it. Went to 159 forged hollows then back to 159 royals…but i was really feeling the pinch with those cast 5.8s.
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I visited the Hobo hideaway banana ledge today.

I love this truck. The shining stock bushings are off the chain.

I am kinda playing with fire tho. I'm running -2.5 inny belly button threads with no glue.

Have you ever tried the green loose trucks conversion kit, Flea? Those might be right up your alley.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 19, 2023, 02:36:46 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/Fx4td6T/IMG-20231209-004027-224.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ngMSKrJ)

Hey I found some extra bushings. I noticed that there's a big colour differentiation between the sf and the mexico pours.

The dark one is from right when COVID hit. The light are the current. As seen on my 6.1s. also either the kingpin is longer in 6.1s and 5.8s or the bushings are softer now.

I prefer the current clear style for sure
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how you liking the 6.1s?
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They're killer. The only downside is they're the same size as my double sided curb. With 58mm wheels you can't unlock. You just kinda go from 50 to NG and stop.

If I throw a wilder wheel on problem solved I assume. Was the same with the 5.8 when riding the 58mm Dragons.

I switched back to ogs and I was able to be on top again.

I got a new curb tho so it's fine.

Also I might order wheels tomorrow. I been looking. I can't wait till spring
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I have been trying to restrain myself from buying 6.1 hollow after I just bought those 5.8 but I started skating a specific curb again that allows you to sit on top and you need an 875 truck; 149s and G3’s won’t cut it. Went to 159 forged hollows then back to 159 royals…but i was really feeling the pinch with those cast 5.8s.
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I visited the Hobo hideaway banana ledge today.

I love this truck. The shining stock bushings are off the chain.

I am kinda playing with fire tho. I'm running -2.5 inny belly button threads with no glue.
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Have you ever tried the green loose trucks conversion kit, Flea? Those might be right up your alley.

I rode um but they died after like 2 trucks. Maybe 3 sets.

Was going to order them but I really don't need them with this truck.

The 6.1 is by far the best truck I've had so far. It turns good even in cold weather. Nuts not moving or nothing.

Below zero I'm going to miss the pre cut bushings
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 19, 2023, 02:37:36 PM
Its never worth it to cut a purple bushing that's good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 21, 2023, 11:18:22 PM
goddamn i want a 9.0+ axle venture
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chaosisme on December 22, 2023, 06:08:05 PM
goddamn i want a 9.0+ axle venture

5.6 low first! 😜
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Urtripping on December 23, 2023, 05:33:30 AM
6.1's quickly became my favorite truck
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 23, 2023, 08:05:13 AM
there is something different about the 6.1s. mine are just the stock, cast ones. i’m really like them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FUBAR on December 24, 2023, 05:40:48 AM
I’m 3-4 sessions in on 6.1s and really like them. I haven’t even taken them to the curbs yet, either.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on December 24, 2023, 11:20:21 AM
STOP the 6.1 love...I don't need anymore trucks :P
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Kaydubbb on December 29, 2023, 04:43:52 PM
Why is the thread called venture 2020? Did something change that year? Recently picked up some 6.1s, came with yellow bushings and the manufacture date in the sticker was 2020. Are they still identical to the trucks from this year with the purple bushings?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 29, 2023, 04:52:25 PM
I'm sorry I got bump the 6.1 one more time before the year is over.

We fuckin love you Venture.
You are the wind beneath my wings.

I swear I'll never leave you tho I might wander from time to time out of necessity.

I just want you to know that when I wake up in the morning and I see you laying there next to my bed. My heart skips a beat. My mouth goes dry. I go out a my mind with waves of unpure joy. And I just wanna look into your grooves forever and ever.

Someday we'll go into the cremation station together and be one forever and ever.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on December 29, 2023, 07:28:19 PM
Why is the thread called venture 2020? Did something change that year? Recently picked up some 6.1s, came with yellow bushings and the manufacture date in the sticker was 2020. Are they still identical to the trucks from this year with the purple bushings?

2020 was the year of the Awakening
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 29, 2023, 07:50:21 PM
i have this naughty idea
feel free to try it before me if you have the parts

but wider 5.6 - 6.1 venture on ace low baseplates

the difference between af1s and af1 lows is 4mm
so im thinking it would take cast ventures to 49mm

i just gotta know
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: WelcomeToHell on December 29, 2023, 08:22:31 PM
Why is the thread called venture 2020? Did something change that year? Recently picked up some 6.1s, came with yellow bushings and the manufacture date in the sticker was 2020. Are they still identical to the trucks from this year with the purple bushings?

I think I was the last person to ask about bushing color before searching so I can field this one. Bushing color doesn’t mean anything the way it does with some other trucks, i.e. hardness.

If you’re asking if the Ventures from 2020 are the same as the Ventures from 2023 then I think the answer to that is yes. Unless I’ve missed something (wouldn’t be the first time), I don’t think there have been any recent changes to their standard model.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bryan on December 29, 2023, 09:49:13 PM
i have this naughty idea
feel free to try it before me if you have the parts

but wider 5.6 - 6.1 venture on ace low baseplates

the difference between af1s and af1 lows is 4mm
so im thinking it would take cast ventures to 49mm

i just gotta know

It works. But they aren't what I'd imagine venture wide lows would feel like. The turn is somewhere between an ace low + venture high. The pop is very light like an ace low.

I think the way ace modified the baseplate and kept the hanger the same for the ace low is how venture could produce a successful venture wide low/mid >50mm tall.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 29, 2023, 10:06:04 PM
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i have this naughty idea
feel free to try it before me if you have the parts

but wider 5.6 - 6.1 venture on ace low baseplates

the difference between af1s and af1 lows is 4mm
so im thinking it would take cast ventures to 49mm

i just gotta know
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It works. But they aren't what I'd imagine venture wide lows would feel like. The turn is somewhere between an ace low + venture high. The pop is very light like an ace low.

I think the way ace modified the baseplate and kept the hanger the same for the ace low is how venture could produce a successful venture wide low/mid >50mm tall.
are they sub 50mm with the baseplate change?
$30 for a pair on ccs
this feels like a why not moment

and i completely agree
venture should just make lo plates
seeing what they did with the “loose” trucks
plates and trucks could be sold bundled & separately
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 29, 2023, 10:11:25 PM
A low plate would just lower your bushings tho. The pivot is about as low as it can go
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chillclinton87 on December 30, 2023, 03:56:52 AM
sooooooo i been on thunder 147s for nearly 15 years but decided to buy some ventures since i had a gift card for a local and didn't know what else to do with it. just curious to try out something new, still on a little break from skating for letting my body rest for once.

so i got me the high 5.2s- regular, nothing hollow or some shit, then (too late) browsed through this thread and found out venture doesn't do aftermarket bushings except the "low" type.

so if the stock bushings blow out though is there any good fitting bushings i might be able to get my hands on?

anybody made the switch from thunder to venture and care to share their experience?

just tryna awake, so thanks in advance  ;)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on December 30, 2023, 05:17:21 AM
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Why is the thread called venture 2020? Did something change that year? Recently picked up some 6.1s, came with yellow bushings and the manufacture date in the sticker was 2020. Are they still identical to the trucks from this year with the purple bushings?
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2020 was the year of the Awakening

When our sovereign Bobby began to deliver the gospel.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on December 30, 2023, 09:12:28 AM
Side effects of COVID led everyone to question their truck choices.....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on December 30, 2023, 09:53:38 AM
A low plate would just lower your bushings tho. The pivot is about as low as it can go
sooooooo i been on thunder 147s for nearly 15 years but decided to buy some ventures since i had a gift card for a local and didn't know what else to do with it. just curious to try out something new, still on a little break from skating for letting my body rest for once.

so i got me the high 5.2s- regular, nothing hollow or some shit, then (too late) browsed through this thread and found out venture doesn't do aftermarket bushings except the "low" type.

so if the stock bushings blow out though is there any good fitting bushings i might be able to get my hands on?

anybody made the switch from thunder to venture and care to share their experience?

just tryna awake, so thanks in advance  ;)

Dlx bait and tackle, Indy aftermarket or bones bushings all work great.

Ace bottoms and a low ace hard top are choice.

Slap on a flat top washer just in case you ride loose.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chillclinton87 on December 30, 2023, 11:49:33 AM
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A low plate would just lower your bushings tho. The pivot is about as low as it can go
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sooooooo i been on thunder 147s for nearly 15 years but decided to buy some ventures since i had a gift card for a local and didn't know what else to do with it. just curious to try out something new, still on a little break from skating for letting my body rest for once.

so i got me the high 5.2s- regular, nothing hollow or some shit, then (too late) browsed through this thread and found out venture doesn't do aftermarket bushings except the "low" type.

so if the stock bushings blow out though is there any good fitting bushings i might be able to get my hands on?

anybody made the switch from thunder to venture and care to share their experience?

just tryna awake, so thanks in advance  ;)
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Dlx bait and tackle, Indy aftermarket or bones bushings all work great.

Ace bottoms and a low ace hard top are choice.

Slap on a flat top washer just in case you ride loose.

thanks a lot for the info @Xen  :D

i am really anxious if i don't have some backup available, so that helps me a lot!
wich results in me always buying more shit just in case......

anybody got recs for pivot cups as backup? or are all of them the same size?
i know about the riptides but guess i don't really need them/ can't find em anyway.....

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on December 30, 2023, 12:08:57 PM
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A low plate would just lower your bushings tho. The pivot is about as low as it can go
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sooooooo i been on thunder 147s for nearly 15 years but decided to buy some ventures since i had a gift card for a local and didn't know what else to do with it. just curious to try out something new, still on a little break from skating for letting my body rest for once.

so i got me the high 5.2s- regular, nothing hollow or some shit, then (too late) browsed through this thread and found out venture doesn't do aftermarket bushings except the "low" type.

so if the stock bushings blow out though is there any good fitting bushings i might be able to get my hands on?

anybody made the switch from thunder to venture and care to share their experience?

just tryna awake, so thanks in advance  ;)
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Dlx bait and tackle, Indy aftermarket or bones bushings all work great.

Ace bottoms and a low ace hard top are choice.

Slap on a flat top washer just in case you ride loose.
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thanks a lot for the info @Xen  :D

i am really anxious if i don't have some backup available, so that helps me a lot!
wich results in me always buying more shit just in case......

anybody got recs for pivot cups as backup? or are all of them the same size?
i know about the riptides but guess i don't really need them/ can't find em anyway.....



+ you can always get the Venture branded looose truck kit...they should really make this in purple...

While I'm a fan of riptides, I don't bother with them anymore as I don't feel the cost justifies the [small] gain; I just use whatever cups I have on hand that don't stick out above the baseplate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 30, 2023, 05:55:39 PM
https://youtu.be/6fBhJXhd7Jw?si=q1UQ0uNYtAyATAYf

Early YouTube truck opinion. There was another that was older. Travis Guide Channel or whatever
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on December 30, 2023, 06:47:51 PM
would putting my cast 6.1 hangers on my Ti 5.8 baseplates work?  and has anyone done this who has feedback
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 30, 2023, 07:02:58 PM
would putting my cast 6.1 hangers on my Ti 5.8 baseplates work?  and has anyone done this who has feedback

yeah it’ll work.
i haven’t had venture ti’s, but my understanding is that the only titanium is in the axle.
as to your question: venture hangers are compatible with all baseplates.







there was some talk of the 6.1 geometry being slightly different, than the others, but that was some third hand online chatter. the 6.1s do feel extra good tho
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 30, 2023, 07:09:32 PM
6.1 geo is actually different
have had 5.2 - 5.8 and 6.1s have a shorter wb
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 30, 2023, 08:06:14 PM
6.1 geo is actually different
have had 5.2 - 5.8 and 6.1s have a shorter wb


makes sense.

the hanger swap will still work
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on December 30, 2023, 08:19:44 PM
Super happy on 5.8 cast hollows but all this 6.1 shorter wb talk really has me curious.

Anyone ride 8.5 on both 5.8 and 6.1 have any thoughts? Main concern is it would make flatground and flip ins weird, idk
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 31, 2023, 01:06:11 AM
Anyone ride 8.5 on both 5.8 and 6.1 have any thoughts? Main concern is it would make flatground and flip ins weird, idk
i did at some point with the quasi proto 8.5
learned significantly more tricks with 6.1 hollows
better stability, lock in, and they just inspire more confidence
kinda ditched the 5.8s after that. 2nd best aint bad at all

simply put, its my favorite truck

never really practiced flip in grinds or slides
but also have never been this confident with my setup
honestly might spend the next session on kf front board

didnt lose any flatground sizing up to 6.1s
and that was in the middle of switching between 8.5 - 9+
with my best skating happening on a 9.0

if you got the trick on 5.8w/ same shape, it should carry over
just invest in hollow axles
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 31, 2023, 05:45:29 AM
currently skating an 8.38 on 6.1s, just the regular cast ones. not sure why, but the setup works a treat, and i’m a proponent of skating small boards….cant call it.
the 6.1s inspire confidence
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on December 31, 2023, 08:30:03 AM
currently skating an 8.38 on 6.1s, just the regular cast ones. not sure why, but the setup works a treat, and i’m a proponent of skating small boards….cant call it.
the 6.1s inspire confidence

here i was thinking i would go into 2024 without any madness
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on December 31, 2023, 08:36:45 AM
Damn I was hoping i'd be dissuaded from experimenting lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on December 31, 2023, 09:03:14 AM
just preaching the gospel
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on December 31, 2023, 01:01:08 PM
i cannot figure out why i like the 6.1s as much as i do.
previously i struggled with cast venture hi’s. i liked my 5.8s that i got from @art hellman, those were good. i think i started riding smaller boards and then passed those along to a pal who wanted some.
venture hi’s with the forged baseplate have worked better for me, up until this bout with the 6.1s. i’m not sure what it is with the 6.1s, @munchbox mentioned the geo being slightly pulled in, maybe that’s it.
here’s the slightly unnecessary details:

5’8”, really short legs, 10-11 shoe. usually skate in 10s.
i like to skate different setups, that’s basically been too much of my interface with skating for the last 10 years, just experimenting.
most recently i’d been skating smaller sized setups, most of which had in common a 52 mm wheel. frequently around 8+ ish decks.
i set this board up in a funk and it was one of those where the moment i hopped on i felt rowdy/confident. i don’t land everything, some of the flips take more effort, some stuff like switch flips are as easy as it gets for me.
the wider trucks give me a really stable base to pop
off. i’m using 54 classics, and they keep the board feeling light and crispy compared to the radial fulls and such i had been trying before.
the 6.1s pinch well, i struggle with pinch stuff. but really its the pop and confidence for me.

kinda funny, i’ve been noticing sizes shrink back towards 8, and i’ve been waiting for that, and now im out here hot rodding around on 8.75s like it’s 2015.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 31, 2023, 04:45:40 PM
Super happy on 5.8 cast hollows but all this 6.1 shorter wb talk really has me curious.

Anyone ride 8.5 on both 5.8 and 6.1 have any thoughts? Main concern is it would make flatground and flip ins weird, idk

its pretty much the same. 6.1 is a tad bit turnier.

im def a 5.8 person i because of the double sided curb thing. otherwise i like the 6.1 better. its not ventures faullt the town wnt with baby curbs
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on December 31, 2023, 04:52:22 PM
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Super happy on 5.8 cast hollows but all this 6.1 shorter wb talk really has me curious.

Anyone ride 8.5 on both 5.8 and 6.1 have any thoughts? Main concern is it would make flatground and flip ins weird, idk
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its pretty much the same. 6.1 is a tad bit turnier.

im def a 5.8 person i because of the double sided curb thing. otherwise i like the 6.1 better. its not ventures faullt the town wnt with baby curbs

Opposite here, the good double sided curb here in Santa Monica (beach curbs) needs an 8.75 to ride whatever the fuck wheel width); you can get away with a 5.8/8.5" truck but only with tablets or v3s and you gotta be (too) precise.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on December 31, 2023, 06:43:20 PM
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Super happy on 5.8 cast hollows but all this 6.1 shorter wb talk really has me curious.

Anyone ride 8.5 on both 5.8 and 6.1 have any thoughts? Main concern is it would make flatground and flip ins weird, idk
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its pretty much the same. 6.1 is a tad bit turnier.

im def a 5.8 person i because of the double sided curb thing. otherwise i like the 6.1 better. its not ventures faullt the town wnt with baby curbs
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Opposite here, the good double sided curb here in Santa Monica (beach curbs) needs an 8.75 to ride whatever the fuck wheel width); you can get away with a 5.8/8.5" truck but only with tablets or v3s and you gotta be (too) precise.

I like having wheels on top.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on December 31, 2023, 08:06:14 PM
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Super happy on 5.8 cast hollows but all this 6.1 shorter wb talk really has me curious.

Anyone ride 8.5 on both 5.8 and 6.1 have any thoughts? Main concern is it would make flatground and flip ins weird, idk
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its pretty much the same. 6.1 is a tad bit turnier.

im def a 5.8 person i because of the double sided curb thing. otherwise i like the 6.1 better. its not ventures faullt the town wnt with baby curbs
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Opposite here, the good double sided curb here in Santa Monica (beach curbs) needs an 8.75 to ride whatever the fuck wheel width); you can get away with a 5.8/8.5" truck but only with tablets or v3s and you gotta be (too) precise.
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I like having wheels on top.

On top of the double? Yeah, they keep you rolling, but there's something about just being locked on, truck only for grinds.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on December 31, 2023, 09:12:18 PM
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Super happy on 5.8 cast hollows but all this 6.1 shorter wb talk really has me curious.

Anyone ride 8.5 on both 5.8 and 6.1 have any thoughts? Main concern is it would make flatground and flip ins weird, idk
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its pretty much the same. 6.1 is a tad bit turnier.

im def a 5.8 person i because of the double sided curb thing. otherwise i like the 6.1 better. its not ventures faullt the town wnt with baby curbs
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Opposite here, the good double sided curb here in Santa Monica (beach curbs) needs an 8.75 to ride whatever the fuck wheel width); you can get away with a 5.8/8.5" truck but only with tablets or v3s and you gotta be (too) precise.
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I like having wheels on top.
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On top of the double? Yeah, they keep you rolling, but there's something about just being locked on, truck only for grinds.

Youd love an element flatbar
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Shalom Peterson on January 01, 2024, 09:40:46 PM
Eight months in. The axle definitely grinds way slower than the other metals lol. I can’t wait to start grinding thru that sticker.

(https://i.ibb.co/m4jPKV5/IMG-0239.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Kaydubbb on January 03, 2024, 03:48:50 PM
Super happy on 5.8 cast hollows but all this 6.1 shorter wb talk really has me curious.

Anyone ride 8.5 on both 5.8 and 6.1 have any thoughts? Main concern is it would make flatground and flip ins weird, idk

I'm not convinced that the wheelbase on the 6.1s is shorter like people are saying, I just double checked mine, averaged across 3 different tape measures and both sides of the axles and triple checked the decks wheelbase in case it wasn't as stated, and 3.248" is the number I kept landing on.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 03, 2024, 04:00:48 PM
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Super happy on 5.8 cast hollows but all this 6.1 shorter wb talk really has me curious.

Anyone ride 8.5 on both 5.8 and 6.1 have any thoughts? Main concern is it would make flatground and flip ins weird, idk
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I'm not convinced that the wheelbase on the 6.1s is shorter like people are saying, I just double checked mine, averaged across 3 different tape measures and both sides of the axles and triple checked the decks wheelbase in case it wasn't as stated, and 3.248" is the number I kept landing on.
cast 6.1s are shorter than hollows 6.1s
is that what you were comparing?
ive owned enough sets to say that confidently
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Kaydubbb on January 03, 2024, 04:09:59 PM
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Super happy on 5.8 cast hollows but all this 6.1 shorter wb talk really has me curious.

Anyone ride 8.5 on both 5.8 and 6.1 have any thoughts? Main concern is it would make flatground and flip ins weird, idk
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I'm not convinced that the wheelbase on the 6.1s is shorter like people are saying, I just double checked mine, averaged across 3 different tape measures and both sides of the axles and triple checked the decks wheelbase in case it wasn't as stated, and 3.248" is the number I kept landing on.
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cast 6.1s are shorter than hollows

I'm measuring standard cast 6.1s, the wheelbase thread has them at 3.125".
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 03, 2024, 04:54:05 PM
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Super happy on 5.8 cast hollows but all this 6.1 shorter wb talk really has me curious.

Anyone ride 8.5 on both 5.8 and 6.1 have any thoughts? Main concern is it would make flatground and flip ins weird, idk
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I'm not convinced that the wheelbase on the 6.1s is shorter like people are saying, I just double checked mine, averaged across 3 different tape measures and both sides of the axles and triple checked the decks wheelbase in case it wasn't as stated, and 3.248" is the number I kept landing on.
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cast 6.1s are shorter than hollows
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I'm measuring standard cast 6.1s, the wheelbase thread has them at 3.125".
i dont have any cast plates but i can measure my forged later

maybe someone else with cast plates can back you up
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 03, 2024, 08:59:37 PM
Didn't realize they weren't that far off from the stocks.
(https://i.ibb.co/92y4Pgm/13-ve-fl23-d3-ao-loose-info.jpg) (https://ibb.co/92y4Pgm)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Kaydubbb on January 03, 2024, 10:52:22 PM
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Super happy on 5.8 cast hollows but all this 6.1 shorter wb talk really has me curious.

Anyone ride 8.5 on both 5.8 and 6.1 have any thoughts? Main concern is it would make flatground and flip ins weird, idk
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I'm not convinced that the wheelbase on the 6.1s is shorter like people are saying, I just double checked mine, averaged across 3 different tape measures and both sides of the axles and triple checked the decks wheelbase in case it wasn't as stated, and 3.248" is the number I kept landing on.
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cast 6.1s are shorter than hollows
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I'm measuring standard cast 6.1s, the wheelbase thread has them at 3.125".
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i dont have any cast plates but i can measure my forged later

maybe someone else with cast plates can back you up

Hopefully, my understanding was the forged plates generally lengthen the wheelbase compared to their cast counterparts. With the wheelbase thread listing 6.1 cast as 3.125" and I'm getting essentially 2.5", I'm interested to see what someone else might get.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 04, 2024, 02:34:03 AM
Didn't realize they weren't that far off from the stocks.
(https://i.ibb.co/92y4Pgm/13-ve-fl23-d3-ao-loose-info.jpg) (https://ibb.co/92y4Pgm)


I found it was about two threads difference all up, so when I tightened them down so I had two threads showing, they felt like the usual stock bushings with the kingpin nut flush.

From this, I could either loosen them off some to make them easier for very small light weight bodies - kids or adults alike - or put them on boards that had the truck grinded down a long way, kingpin usually also worn down some, so they could still skate well and not have the nut getting smashed or unable to tighten them down enough.

Both options were pretty decent and worked well for anyone who either needed softer bushings or more turn, or had very well worn trucks.


Sorry I probably already said that before too, but for people who buy them and set them up so the kingpin nut is flush and then say they are too loose, I agree with you as they are crazy like that, but those bushings sure do work well when down a bit lower, especially on  other brand trucks that do need a bit more clearance right from go (no truck brand names to mention) or some I even take a bit off the kingpin, as I did on some old low versions of certain trucks and they skated much better after that.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 05, 2024, 12:45:40 PM
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Didn't realize they weren't that far off from the stocks.
(https://i.ibb.co/92y4Pgm/13-ve-fl23-d3-ao-loose-info.jpg) (https://ibb.co/92y4Pgm)
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I found it was about two threads difference all up, so when I tightened them down so I had two threads showing, they felt like the usual stock bushings with the kingpin nut flush.

From this, I could either loosen them off some to make them easier for very small light weight bodies - kids or adults alike - or put them on boards that had the truck grinded down a long way, kingpin usually also worn down some, so they could still skate well and not have the nut getting smashed or unable to tighten them down enough.

Both options were pretty decent and worked well for anyone who either needed softer bushings or more turn, or had very well worn trucks.


Sorry I probably already said that before too, but for people who buy them and set them up so the kingpin nut is flush and then say they are too loose, I agree with you as they are crazy like that, but those bushings sure do work well when down a bit lower, especially on  other brand trucks that do need a bit more clearance right from go (no truck brand names to mention) or some I even take a bit off the kingpin, as I did on some old low versions of certain trucks and they skated much better after that.



Yea, you can't go nut flush with a low top...anyone trying to do that doesn't understand how trucks/bushings are supposed to work (it's like cranking down a soft bushing, we see you Bam, instead of swapping out for a harder (or softer) duro depending on weight...with the proper duro for your weight you can usually stay nut flush and get your desired feel.

Usually, I use(d) ACE (or the NFG, RIP) low tops in my ventures - it does work wonders...these days I'm trying to skate a but tighter so I just stay stock with a flat washer.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on January 13, 2024, 02:36:36 PM
Ishod skating Ventures on his story.  No idea how to link or embed a story
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 13, 2024, 03:01:35 PM
Ishod skating Ventures on his story.  No idea how to link or embed a story


I guess it is all DLX, so maybe he broke some and couldn't get Thunders, so riding Venture is still ok.


Maybe easier to screen shot like this:


(https://i.ibb.co/L5SPDkm/Ishod-Venture-trucks.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m8JBrDk)




*** Actually just joking to someone else about him trying the Ventures with the Koston baseplate hole change and when I zooned in I could see he was doing that.


(https://i.ibb.co/3WbDzdH/Ishod-Venture-trucks3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/920Ftgj)

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 13, 2024, 03:02:41 PM
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A bit hard to get a good pic, but yes you can clearly see they are Ventures.


(https://i.ibb.co/HnhxdVF/Ishod-Venture-trucks2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cDYCL1g)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 13, 2024, 04:28:56 PM
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Ishod skating Ventures on his story.  No idea how to link or embed a story
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I guess it is all DLX, so maybe he broke some and couldn't get Thunders, so riding Venture is still ok.

Maybe easier to screen shot like this:
(https://i.ibb.co/L5SPDkm/Ishod-Venture-trucks.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m8JBrDk)

*** Actually just joking to someone else about him trying the Ventures with the Koston baseplate hole change and when I zooned in I could see he was doing that.

(https://i.ibb.co/3WbDzdH/Ishod-Venture-trucks3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/920Ftgj)

He [usually] rides the 14.4 WB + Thunders...riding ventures, double drilled, pulls them into thunder WB territory? Is that the logic?

I'd bet good money that a double drilled venture would sell really well provided they were durable.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 13, 2024, 05:53:11 PM
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Ishod skating Ventures on his story.  No idea how to link or embed a story
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I guess it is all DLX, so maybe he broke some and couldn't get Thunders, so riding Venture is still ok.

Maybe easier to screen shot like this:
(https://i.ibb.co/L5SPDkm/Ishod-Venture-trucks.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m8JBrDk)

*** Actually just joking to someone else about him trying the Ventures with the Koston baseplate hole change and when I zooned in I could see he was doing that.

(https://i.ibb.co/3WbDzdH/Ishod-Venture-trucks3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/920Ftgj)
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He [usually] rides the 14.4 WB + Thunders...riding ventures, double drilled, pulls them into thunder WB territory? Is that the logic?

I'd bet good money that a double drilled venture would sell really well provided they were durable.

i’d buy some
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 13, 2024, 06:04:29 PM
Didn't realize they weren't that far off from the stocks.
(https://i.ibb.co/92y4Pgm/13-ve-fl23-d3-ao-loose-info.jpg) (https://ibb.co/92y4Pgm)

They made alterations I think. Before the package said 1mm.

This could be good because it's less non biodegradables. Less money to produce.
If they could pull this off across the bloard it'd be good for both bland and planet.

And me. I like green short tops.

Tight trucks people will get 2 more threads tops. It'll still be similar.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 13, 2024, 07:32:15 PM
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Ishod skating Ventures on his story.  No idea how to link or embed a story
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I guess it is all DLX, so maybe he broke some and couldn't get Thunders, so riding Venture is still ok.

Maybe easier to screen shot like this:
(https://i.ibb.co/L5SPDkm/Ishod-Venture-trucks.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m8JBrDk)

*** Actually just joking to someone else about him trying the Ventures with the Koston baseplate hole change and when I zooned in I could see he was doing that.

(https://i.ibb.co/3WbDzdH/Ishod-Venture-trucks3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/920Ftgj)
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He [usually] rides the 14.4 WB + Thunders...riding ventures, double drilled, pulls them into thunder WB territory? Is that the logic?

I'd bet good money that a double drilled venture would sell really well provided they were durable.

anybody want to take a guess on where the new holes are, in relation to the old holes? can’t be that hard to diy, right?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 13, 2024, 10:37:10 PM
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Ishod skating Ventures on his story.  No idea how to link or embed a story
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I guess it is all DLX, so maybe he broke some and couldn't get Thunders, so riding Venture is still ok.

Maybe easier to screen shot like this:

*** Actually just joking to someone else about him trying the Ventures with the Koston baseplate hole change and when I zooned in I could see he was doing that.

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He [usually] rides the 14.4 WB + Thunders...riding ventures, double drilled, pulls them into thunder WB territory? Is that the logic?

I'd bet good money that a double drilled venture would sell really well provided they were durable.


anybody want to take a guess on where the new holes are, in relation to the old holes? can’t be that hard to diy, right?


From the old six hole Venture baseplates I tried on a board in the other holes, which worked really well on a steeper 8.38 with 14.5 wb board, they were 3/8" difference to the new hole pattern.

Whether these are drilled the same or even just a 1/4" from the old holes, which would still work, that would bring in the wheelbase 1/2" or more, which would make most usually longer wb boards on any other trucks feel even more turny and shorter on Ventures.

Way shorter wb than on Thunders with their normal drilled baseplates when lined up with the same board with Thunders too, even with Ishod's custom trucks, with the two top bushings on each truck as he used to run on his setups, to bring in the wb on Thunders - not sure if Ishod still did this, but that was his go to as per his board setup from the Nine Club video a while back.

Curious to see / hear more any which way.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on January 14, 2024, 06:07:41 AM
Strange for ishod because he released a video for thunder trucks not so long ago.. (about a week if i remember)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 14, 2024, 03:58:42 PM
Strange for ishod because he released a video for thunder trucks not so long ago.. (about a week if i remember)


But Thunder and Venture trucks are both out of Deluxe Distribution in SF so if it was a case of "We need some people to test these Venture baseplate options" then I am thinking he would be a very good candidate for the job.

It is all in house, so no issue with him trying them, or even riding them more than a bit anyway, compared to a rival company with someone else riding Indy or Ace who are through other distros.


Honestly though, that redrilling of the baseplate could be the game changer for Venture, so I wonder if they might actually bring some out more with the mid baseplate hole options, like Thunder, more so than very offset to the inside, which then pushes the truck out the furtherest of all truck brands (or main ones anyway).

Sure there might be some push back from some skater, but the option to ride a whole lot more "normal" or longer boards / wheelbases might open up their interest a lot more too.


They were really a whole lot better for me when I tried some old six hole baseplates, just having the end bolts through the last two holes and having a bit of a skate like that.

From December 2022:


https://www.instagram.com/p/CmG_yTvpr04/

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on January 14, 2024, 07:19:15 PM
It sounds crazy, but if these came out you could use the  long wheelbase on the nose and the smaller option on the tail, To give a longer tail.
Or vice versa, for a longer nose.
It almost seems like too many options to people who don’t pay too close attention to this stuff, but I would love it. It would open up a lot of decks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 14, 2024, 07:52:51 PM
for me, ventures work with everything deck wise, to the extent that if a board feels off to me, then i know it’s just the board. as opposed to ace, where i need all
of the stars to align.
so the dbl drilled baseplates wouldn’t be about different decks, but just trying out the different angles for pop.

what is the smallest change possible, i wonder?
with decks that chem-tool recommended something like 3/8, but that’s waaaaay too much.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 14, 2024, 08:01:53 PM
It sounds crazy, but if these came out you could use the  long wheelbase on the nose and the smaller option on the tail, To give a longer tail.
Or vice versa, for a longer nose.
It almost seems like too many options to people who don’t pay too close attention to this stuff, but I would love it. It would open up a lot of decks


for me, ventures work with everything deck wise, to the extent that if a board feels off to me, then i know it’s just the board. as opposed to ace, where i need all
of the stars to align.
so the dbl drilled baseplates wouldn’t be about different decks, but just trying out the different angles for pop.

what is the smallest change possible, i wonder?
with decks that chem-tool recommended something like 3/8, but that’s waaaaay too much.


The Chem tool had two options, firstly the 3/8" apart for one version and then 1/4" apart for another, so in metal 1/4" might work well, or even just setting it up for yourself with a market pen and looking at it to see what might look ok.

The other old trucks of any variety and current wider Indy six hole baseplates are 3/8" apart, so when trying that option it definitely made the kicks feel a lot more comfortable for me, so yes you could do one, or the other, or both.

I wonder if the Fuckwithyourtrucks guy has any experience redrilling baseplates.  Anyone tried recently?



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 15, 2024, 07:04:48 AM
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It sounds crazy, but if these came out you could use the  long wheelbase on the nose and the smaller option on the tail, To give a longer tail.
Or vice versa, for a longer nose.
It almost seems like too many options to people who don’t pay too close attention to this stuff, but I would love it. It would open up a lot of decks
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for me, ventures work with everything deck wise, to the extent that if a board feels off to me, then i know it’s just the board. as opposed to ace, where i need all
of the stars to align.
so the dbl drilled baseplates wouldn’t be about different decks, but just trying out the different angles for pop.

what is the smallest change possible, i wonder?
with decks that chem-tool recommended something like 3/8, but that’s waaaaay too much.
[close]


The Chem tool had two options, firstly the 3/8" apart for one version and then 1/4" apart for another, so in metal 1/4" might work well, or even just setting it up for yourself with a market pen and looking at it to see what might look ok.

The other old trucks of any variety and current wider Indy six hole baseplates are 3/8" apart, so when trying that option it definitely made the kicks feel a lot more comfortable for me, so yes you could do one, or the other, or both.

I wonder if the Fuckwithyourtrucks guy has any experience redrilling baseplates.  Anyone tried recently?

thanks for info
i haven’t tried, but now very curious.
surprised that a 3/8 modification provided decent results!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 15, 2024, 02:09:41 PM
double drilled baseplate for the tail doesnt sound half bad
definitely unnecessary but would be interesting
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 15, 2024, 02:16:02 PM
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It sounds crazy, but if these came out you could use the  long wheelbase on the nose and the smaller option on the tail, To give a longer tail.
Or vice versa, for a longer nose.
It almost seems like too many options to people who don’t pay too close attention to this stuff, but I would love it. It would open up a lot of decks
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for me, ventures work with everything deck wise, to the extent that if a board feels off to me, then i know it’s just the board. as opposed to ace, where i need all
of the stars to align.
so the dbl drilled baseplates wouldn’t be about different decks, but just trying out the different angles for pop.

what is the smallest change possible, i wonder?
with decks that chem-tool recommended something like 3/8, but that’s waaaaay too much.
[close]


The Chem tool had two options, firstly the 3/8" apart for one version and then 1/4" apart for another, so in metal 1/4" might work well, or even just setting it up for yourself with a market pen and looking at it to see what might look ok.

The other old trucks of any variety and current wider Indy six hole baseplates are 3/8" apart, so when trying that option it definitely made the kicks feel a lot more comfortable for me, so yes you could do one, or the other, or both.

I wonder if the Fuckwithyourtrucks guy has any experience redrilling baseplates.  Anyone tried recently?
[close]

thanks for info
i haven’t tried, but now very curious.
surprised that a 3/8 modification provided decent results!


Not a direct comparison, but moving the usual Venture truck in 3/8" on the tail on some boards can make it way too light, so it just doesn't work, but on others it made it feel more like where Ace truck axles sit, so for some it might be too light and tippy for what they are used to, but for others, it might open up a whole lot more for them in terms of longer wheelbase boards that didn't work so well before.

I guess that is the difference between drilling baseplates once, or drilling multiple boards over and over to move trucks to where you want them to sit, for people like Koston who wanted to ride Ventures but didn't want to have such a long wheelbase and didn't have the boards made for him like Chico or some others did - everything 14" wb on all his boards wasn't it?


* There are a bunch of moderately used current model Venture trucks sitting around here, so I might just have to test it and drill out a baseplate 1/4" and see how that works.  Who knows, it might feel so good I will ride Ventures now...


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 15, 2024, 02:35:44 PM
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It sounds crazy, but if these came out you could use the  long wheelbase on the nose and the smaller option on the tail, To give a longer tail.
Or vice versa, for a longer nose.
It almost seems like too many options to people who don’t pay too close attention to this stuff, but I would love it. It would open up a lot of decks
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for me, ventures work with everything deck wise, to the extent that if a board feels off to me, then i know it’s just the board. as opposed to ace, where i need all
of the stars to align.
so the dbl drilled baseplates wouldn’t be about different decks, but just trying out the different angles for pop.

what is the smallest change possible, i wonder?
with decks that chem-tool recommended something like 3/8, but that’s waaaaay too much.
[close]


The Chem tool had two options, firstly the 3/8" apart for one version and then 1/4" apart for another, so in metal 1/4" might work well, or even just setting it up for yourself with a market pen and looking at it to see what might look ok.

The other old trucks of any variety and current wider Indy six hole baseplates are 3/8" apart, so when trying that option it definitely made the kicks feel a lot more comfortable for me, so yes you could do one, or the other, or both.

I wonder if the Fuckwithyourtrucks guy has any experience redrilling baseplates.  Anyone tried recently?
[close]

thanks for info
i haven’t tried, but now very curious.
surprised that a 3/8 modification provided decent results!
[close]


Not a direct comparison, but moving the usual Venture truck in 3/8" on the tail on some boards can make it way too light, so it just doesn't work, but on others it made it feel more like where Ace truck axles sit, so for some it might be too light and tippy for what they are used to, but for others, it might open up a whole lot more for them in terms of longer wheelbase boards that didn't work so well before.

I guess that is the difference between drilling baseplates once, or drilling multiple boards over and over to move trucks to where you want them to sit, for people like Koston who wanted to ride Ventures but didn't want to have such a long wheelbase and didn't have the boards made for him like Chico or some others did - everything 14" wb on all his boards wasn't it?


* There are a bunch of moderately used current model Venture trucks sitting around here, so I might just have to test it and drill out a baseplate 1/4" and see how that works.  Who knows, it might feel so good I will ride Ventures now...
a quarter inch sounds ideal
you have any forged plates sitting around?
id pay to give it a spin
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 15, 2024, 02:57:50 PM
I think I'd just collapse and give up if I had double drilled plates; madness overload.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 15, 2024, 08:53:16 PM

a quarter inch sounds ideal
you have any forged plates sitting around?
id pay to give it a spin


The funny thing is the forged plates are harder to get and more popular, so besides the distance and cost to get them there, from Australia to USA, I don't have any to spare, only a lot of normal cast Venture baseplates, then mostly 5.6 hangers, but some 5.8 and 6.1 as well.

I wonder if anyone has asked DLX about the Venture baseplates and if anyone has any thoughts on drilling them out.  I have never tried, but I am guessing it is not too hard, given the right tools and a good eye, not to mess up the bolt holes.


Edit:

* I cut up or drill out wood every other day, mess with kingpins and reshape wheels, but just never really felt the need to drill out baseplates (until now) so although I have a drill and a metal bit in 5mm, I am still a little apprehensive.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: GBLange on January 15, 2024, 08:56:04 PM
Or get those fake venture on aliexpress and experiment on em..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 15, 2024, 11:04:33 PM
Or get those fake venture on aliexpress and experiment on em..

A friend bought a pair and tried them out, zero turn on them while being overly glossy to the point of being an obvious fake. Didn't think it would be that hard to replicate trucks since China and 2Hex reuse the Indy Stage XI mold for their OEM brands.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: richard00800 on January 20, 2024, 07:45:48 PM
https://youtu.be/zedPB_Ujits

venture low talks, interesting
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 20, 2024, 11:48:33 PM
https://youtu.be/zedPB_Ujits

venture low talks, interesting

Much better video than the Crob one, 2 gear nerds talking fractions of inches and obsessing about griptape is what I'm here for. The industry's fallen out of love with Sewa but you can't deny his flatground skills.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 21, 2024, 09:54:41 AM
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https://youtu.be/zedPB_Ujits

venture low talks, interesting
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Much better video than the Crob one, 2 gear nerds talking fractions of inches and obsessing about griptape is what I'm here for. The industry's fallen out of love with Sewa but you can't deny his flatground skills.

For sure better (Crob makes me cringe) tho Ben could have not talked over Sewa so much at times. His board dims are super interesting/odd yet make sense given his height; dude's got such good pop and control, shame he hasn't landed anywhere.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on January 21, 2024, 11:29:04 PM
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https://youtu.be/zedPB_Ujits

venture low talks, interesting
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Much better video than the Crob one, 2 gear nerds talking fractions of inches and obsessing about griptape is what I'm here for. The industry's fallen out of love with Sewa but you can't deny his flatground skills.
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For sure better (Crob makes me cringe) tho Ben could have not talked over Sewa so much at times. His board dims are super interesting/odd yet make sense given his height; dude's got such good pop and control, shame he hasn't landed anywhere.

Noticed this as well. I mean, let the person you're interviewing talk and don't butt in with your own opinions/jokes/rhetorical landfill all the time. Especially when the guy being interviewed is just about to say something meaningful. I'm not interested about Ben's personal concave preferences when the subject matter is an interesting pro skater.

De Gros is awesome, but the L.A. sunshine might've have given him an unnecessary boost here.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sungam on January 22, 2024, 06:31:08 AM
https://youtu.be/zedPB_Ujits

venture low talks, interesting

Really makes me want to try the low version now, found some with gold hardware but haven't pulled the trigger haha.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 22, 2024, 06:36:31 AM
lo is so damn good, they had me running 5.2 lo with a 8.5
bigger sizes is the dream
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 22, 2024, 01:20:55 PM
lo is so damn good, they had me running 5.2 lo with a 8.5
bigger sizes is the dream


I wonder if anyone could ever trim down a regular set of 6.1s the same way that others have trimmed down some other trucks, eg shortened the axle lengths on Indy 215s and reduced hanger wings and the like.  It would be way harder to do, but I imagine someone out there could do it, just reshape some taller hangers down to lower height hangers.

Comparing both a regular and a low truck hanger, I could see it working easily enough, but I am not at all skilled enough to attempt it.


Over the years I have seen people who blew out pivot cups and have been skating metal on metal for a bit and it grinded down the hanger nub enough to change the truck height.  Just taking down the pivot point on the hanger nub would be part way there, but shaving some off the wings as well would be needed I think.

Leave it at that for now, but it could be done.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on January 22, 2024, 06:57:01 PM
https://youtu.be/zedPB_Ujits

venture low talks, interesting

around 7:14, Sewa starts talking about how he only skates Ventures pre 2011. does anyone know what the actual difference is between the old and new ones? i got back into skating like 6 years ago and had no clue the geo changed during that time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TomCruz on January 22, 2024, 07:40:42 PM
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https://youtu.be/zedPB_Ujits

venture low talks, interesting
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around 7:14, Sewa starts talking about how he only skates Ventures pre 2011. does anyone know what the actual difference is between the old and new ones? i got back into skating like 6 years ago and had no clue the geo changed during that time.

The old Ventures have less wobble to them, which I preferred.  They also turned slightly less.  I could never get used to the latest version, they just have a different feel.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 22, 2024, 08:39:37 PM
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https://youtu.be/zedPB_Ujits

venture low talks, interesting
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around 7:14, Sewa starts talking about how he only skates Ventures pre 2011. does anyone know what the actual difference is between the old and new ones? i got back into skating like 6 years ago and had no clue the geo changed during that time.
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The old Ventures have less wobble to them, which I preferred.  They also turned slightly less.  I could never get used to the latest version, they just have a different feel.


most of us venture folks skated the lo’s, or that’s how it felt.
there were two ‘old heads’ (both younger than me, but actually good at skating), that skated venture hi’s, exclusively, both on them from the very early 2000s. both switched around the time of the dlx acquisition. only one of them mentioned the dlx geo being different. he switched to 139s i think. the other guy (super super good) switched to ace, but i think that may have something to do with old industry connections.
aaaaaaaaaaanyways, i thought him liking the old ones was rad.

his treflips are really unique. i can’t think of someone else that does them like that. they are like a flatter, much higher daewon 360 flip. sorta (not really).
lots of flatground pop, which i love.

i really liked Ben’s last two videos. he and sewa did stumble over one another a bit, and Ben did over speak him too much. but overall mr degros has a really easy style and it works.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on January 23, 2024, 07:18:09 AM
all this low talk has me contemplating in trying them out soon. just not sure if i can give up being able to turn lol
ever since i started riding ventures, it's always been on highs and with a flat top washer. should i just carry that over to the low's and will that be a decent compromise? it will most likely be paired with 52mm wheels
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 23, 2024, 07:39:24 AM
Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on January 23, 2024, 08:06:00 AM
Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.

Seriously sucks. Instead we get shorter bushing "loose" trucks as they try to be Ace.  But at least Ace makes lows in big sizes. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on January 23, 2024, 08:25:56 AM
Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.

if i keep telling myself they are coming, then they are coming
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stanley Spadowski on January 23, 2024, 09:59:30 AM
all this low talk has me contemplating in trying them out soon. just not sure if i can give up being able to turn lol
ever since i started riding ventures, it's always been on highs and with a flat top washer. should i just carry that over to the low's and will that be a decent compromise? it will most likely be paired with 52mm wheels
Start both trucks stock tightness for break in, then tighten/lossen from there. Lo’s are all I skate. As far as wheelbite, you’re gonna get that with any truck/ wheel combo. Having no wheelbite is a myth. Unless it’s high trucks with risers and small wheels
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 23, 2024, 11:19:43 AM
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all this low talk has me contemplating in trying them out soon. just not sure if i can give up being able to turn lol
ever since i started riding ventures, it's always been on highs and with a flat top washer. should i just carry that over to the low's and will that be a decent compromise? it will most likely be paired with 52mm wheels
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Start both trucks stock tightness for break in, then tighten/lossen from there. Lo’s are all I skate. As far as wheelbite, you’re gonna get that with any truck/ wheel combo. Having no wheelbite is a myth. Unless it’s high trucks with risers and small wheels

you’ll be able to turn, but not superfluously. all of that safety hands extra shit is out. pant leg sag checks, pager checks, that’s in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 23, 2024, 12:45:45 PM
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all this low talk has me contemplating in trying them out soon. just not sure if i can give up being able to turn lol
ever since i started riding ventures, it's always been on highs and with a flat top washer. should i just carry that over to the low's and will that be a decent compromise? it will most likely be paired with 52mm wheels
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Start both trucks stock tightness for break in, then tighten/lossen from there. Lo’s are all I skate. As far as wheelbite, you’re gonna get that with any truck/ wheel combo. Having no wheelbite is a myth. Unless it’s high trucks with risers and small wheels
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you’ll be able to turn, but not superfluously. all of that safety hands extra shit is out. pant leg sag checks, pager checks, that’s in.
chandler burton is on the team
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 23, 2024, 05:09:36 PM
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all this low talk has me contemplating in trying them out soon. just not sure if i can give up being able to turn lol
ever since i started riding ventures, it's always been on highs and with a flat top washer. should i just carry that over to the low's and will that be a decent compromise? it will most likely be paired with 52mm wheels
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Start both trucks stock tightness for break in, then tighten/lossen from there. Lo’s are all I skate. As far as wheelbite, you’re gonna get that with any truck/ wheel combo. Having no wheelbite is a myth. Unless it’s high trucks with risers and small wheels
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you’ll be able to turn, but not superfluously. all of that safety hands extra shit is out. pant leg sag checks, pager checks, that’s in.
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chandler burton is on the team

great fuckin point, and i love that, for them.

but venture lo’s are a different story.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: flocke on January 24, 2024, 04:15:18 AM
Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.

i dont know how many comments, dm's they need till they make them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 24, 2024, 03:39:38 PM
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Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.
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i dont know how many comments, dm's they need till they make them



Who else have a wide low / mid truck besides the Indy mid, or Ace low?

I just wonder if the market is not enough that they haven't gone down that path at all, or they find that their existing product lines do enough for them not to warrant additions to the lines?


I guess even the forged baseplate on any normal Venture truck make it 52 mm in height, so that kind of matches the Indy mid anyway.

Only Ace for low at 49 mm in height and wide at 8.75 / AF1 60 then?


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 24, 2024, 04:24:33 PM
i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 24, 2024, 05:01:50 PM
i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.

I chalked the pros switching from lo to hi based on availability, they clearly make less low than hi; Prod made the switch for 'more pop'.

51s are both great and shitty at the same time =D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 24, 2024, 05:40:29 PM
great and shitty.
exactly!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 24, 2024, 05:53:03 PM
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i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.
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I chalked the pros switching from lo to hi based on availability, they clearly make less low than hi; Prod made the switch for 'more pop'.

51s are both great and shitty at the same time =D

Either Lows are their best selling truck or they're cutting back production on Lows to focus on the His - Lows are usually sold out on online stores.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 24, 2024, 07:17:36 PM
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i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.
[close]

I chalked the pros switching from lo to hi based on availability, they clearly make less low than hi; Prod made the switch for 'more pop'.

51s are both great and shitty at the same time =D
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Either Lows are their best selling truck or they're cutting back production on Lows to focus on the His - Lows are usually sold out on online stores.


From talking to some shops people, they will just not order any more low trucks, as they don't sell for them, in the same way they don't order smaller than 52 mm wheels, which might sell out the fastest too, but even Indy mids are being cleared out of some bigger shops just because they have way too much stock and need to get rid of them.

Once the low truck on a sub 8" board with 50 or 51 mm wheels might have been the ideal setup for tech dudes, but that is long gone, replaced by more people riding 8.25 through 8.38 to 8.5 and bigger, on any normal sized trucks on wheels anywhere from 52 mm through 53 and 54 mm sizes up to 60 mm in some cases.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 25, 2024, 04:57:29 PM
You know what would be interesting to see

I feel like Dlxsf could sell replacement 8 hole base plate this year.

The Rock Um Like Koston 8 hole baseplate conversion kit.

Perhaps a diy template.

The Kader truck that just dropped is STRAIGHT UP FIRE!

I getting 5.8 hollows ASAP.

I love my 6.1s but yes they hurt very much with big wheels.

I fuckin need the 62mm beat downs and the 5.8  like yesterday.

Also my 6.1s are reacting funny to street salt or something.
They got yellow water marks on them.
I've never seen that happen to trucks.

What's chemically different this time?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 25, 2024, 04:59:56 PM
Another year, another year without 5.6 and up Venture Los.

You could just get a big tracker low and paint a red v on it.

It'll look like the real deal at least?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 25, 2024, 07:15:22 PM
cant find the height of trackers for the life of me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 26, 2024, 12:06:51 AM
cant find the height of trackers for the life of me

I'll ask a homie if he could measure but he's kinda far away so who knows if he'll do it.

The biggest truck 215 or whatever was about the height of a thunder 149 under foot. He had 58mm og classics on it.

The pivot angle is extreme. Like an old school truck. Points forward.

I'm talking about the dart I think

The smallest darts like a 6.1 but it's definitely way lower and the turn is like a Venture with a cut top bushing. Like almost identical.

I imagine the Dart has a vertical kingpin too. On account of the pivot angle
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 26, 2024, 02:32:41 AM
tracker 2024? ::)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 26, 2024, 07:20:18 AM
found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 26, 2024, 07:35:46 AM
found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 26, 2024, 09:16:33 AM
found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 26, 2024, 10:06:02 AM
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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
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If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.
yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?
thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 26, 2024, 03:48:38 PM
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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.
[close]
yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?
[close]
thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around



I could have checked back through old posts, but what bushings do you usually use in your trucks?

That would determine what might work best for you, eg stock bushings, then try the Venture loose kit - lower kingpin means kingpin nut down more to make it the same feeling truck as normal stock bushings anyway, but I am guessing you have something else going on there.


Trying to think of any other brands that have lower bushings, besides the Ace low bushing kit, which might be a go as well, so you don't have to change / sand down or otherwise mess with an existing set of bushings.

Once you are used to the process, it is not that big a deal, but I think I took a while to get to where I am now, cutting them down or sanding or machining them takes a bit of practice, to say the least.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 26, 2024, 04:02:04 PM
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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.
[close]
yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?
[close]
thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around
[close]



I could have checked back through old posts, but what bushings do you usually use in your trucks?

That would determine what might work best for you, eg stock bushings, then try the Venture loose kit - lower kingpin means kingpin nut down more to make it the same feeling truck as normal stock bushings anyway, but I am guessing you have something else going on there.


Trying to think of any other brands that have lower bushings, besides the Ace low bushing kit, which might be a go as well, so you don't have to change / sand down or otherwise mess with an existing set of bushings.

Once you are used to the process, it is not that big a deal, but I think I took a while to get to where I am now, cutting them down or sanding or machining them takes a bit of practice, to say the least.
was running 97a supercush but they are harder to find now
switched to 98a doh dohs

no clue what hard bottom soft top feels like
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on January 26, 2024, 04:35:40 PM
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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.
[close]
yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?
[close]
thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around
[close]



I could have checked back through old posts, but what bushings do you usually use in your trucks?

That would determine what might work best for you, eg stock bushings, then try the Venture loose kit - lower kingpin means kingpin nut down more to make it the same feeling truck as normal stock bushings anyway, but I am guessing you have something else going on there.


Trying to think of any other brands that have lower bushings, besides the Ace low bushing kit, which might be a go as well, so you don't have to change / sand down or otherwise mess with an existing set of bushings.

Once you are used to the process, it is not that big a deal, but I think I took a while to get to where I am now, cutting them down or sanding or machining them takes a bit of practice, to say the least.
[close]
was running 97a supercush but they are harder to find now
switched to 98a doh dohs

no clue what hard bottom soft top feels like

how are you liking the dohdohs vs the supercush?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 26, 2024, 05:00:38 PM
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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.
[close]
yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?
[close]
thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around
[close]



I could have checked back through old posts, but what bushings do you usually use in your trucks?

That would determine what might work best for you, eg stock bushings, then try the Venture loose kit - lower kingpin means kingpin nut down more to make it the same feeling truck as normal stock bushings anyway, but I am guessing you have something else going on there.


Trying to think of any other brands that have lower bushings, besides the Ace low bushing kit, which might be a go as well, so you don't have to change / sand down or otherwise mess with an existing set of bushings.

Once you are used to the process, it is not that big a deal, but I think I took a while to get to where I am now, cutting them down or sanding or machining them takes a bit of practice, to say the least.
[close]
was running 97a supercush but they are harder to find now
switched to 98a doh dohs

no clue what hard bottom soft top feels like
[close]

how are you liking the dohdohs vs the supercush?
they are good but do prefer supercush
hard to really say since they might never fully return
solid alternative until dlx sorts that out
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 26, 2024, 05:55:02 PM
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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?
venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

If you have the time, tool and clamp setup then go for it. The last time I swapped to inverted kingpin I smashed my thumb with the hammer trying to knock the kingpin out, plus I can't smith grind so it was not worth the effort.

The bigger issue is that unless you have a threaded baseplate for the kingpin to screw into them it will always wobble loose. I think it's been reported on the Indy Mids and the solution was to use Loctite. A loose kingpin would drive me crazy.
[close]
yeah a floating kingpin sounds like a nightmare
thats enough for me to not bother

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found another set of hollow baseplates looking thru gear
so im wondering what to do with my current pair

i angled grinded this kingpin down, too low for me now
its not working with my current choice of bushings
do i try to make an inverted pair?

venture kingpins have a circular kingpin hole
but i wonder if theres a nut that i can hammer in tightly
or maybe even use pliers or something like that
people did it with indys before the mids

ikp sell for $3 near me. not an expensive project
what do you think?
[close]

Would a low top work? Sand down whatever you've been using?
[close]
thats looking like the ticket, 1mm or 2 off
cant stand doing it by hand
will see if a belt sander is around
[close]



I could have checked back through old posts, but what bushings do you usually use in your trucks?

That would determine what might work best for you, eg stock bushings, then try the Venture loose kit - lower kingpin means kingpin nut down more to make it the same feeling truck as normal stock bushings anyway, but I am guessing you have something else going on there.


Trying to think of any other brands that have lower bushings, besides the Ace low bushing kit, which might be a go as well, so you don't have to change / sand down or otherwise mess with an existing set of bushings.

Once you are used to the process, it is not that big a deal, but I think I took a while to get to where I am now, cutting them down or sanding or machining them takes a bit of practice, to say the least.
[close]
was running 97a supercush but they are harder to find now
switched to 98a doh dohs

no clue what hard bottom soft top feels like

Personally, I hate it, hard bottom means you are turning less (which is fine if you want tight trucks) and a soft tops means less rebound/snap to center when you do turn; it's the opposite of what ACE does with their dual duro and it feels floopy to me.

My fav top for vents is a bones hard as it squishes down pretty nice, doesn't blow out and you don't really need a top washer (allowing Ventures to turn instead of bind). Win win.

Been experimenting with Indy black bottoms (94a) vs Bones hard (96a) bottoms, both with bones hard top; jury is still out but I'm leaning towards the bones bottom as it gives them just a hair more quicker/initial turn after the lean at the cost of a teeny amount of stabilty.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 26, 2024, 09:05:02 PM
bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 26, 2024, 09:36:10 PM
bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).

@193lbs I have to use hard bushings no matter what and stock bushings across all brands are too soft.

If bones hards work for yuto, they can't be all that bad, right?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ultrabra on January 27, 2024, 02:23:24 AM
cant find the height of trackers for the life of me


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13rCMIthFb59Y-xrveasWk4GqR9jgd85fXDCIFm3g15I/edit#gid=0

There is some info.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 27, 2024, 03:39:57 AM
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bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).
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@193lbs I have to use hard bushings no matter what and stock bushings across all brands are too soft.

If bones hards work for yuto, they can't be all that bad, right?
have tried bones hards countless times
concluded i cant do conical bottoms
but ill try the tops with the doh doh bottoms
and i think this setup would even out the softer top rebound

bones flat washer as a bottom washer
doh doh 98a bottoms
bones hard 96a tops (maybe shave 1mm off the plastic)
sleeved washer on top
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 27, 2024, 11:06:28 AM
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bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).
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@193lbs I have to use hard bushings no matter what and stock bushings across all brands are too soft.

If bones hards work for yuto, they can't be all that bad, right?
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have tried bones hards countless times
concluded i cant do conical bottoms
but ill try the tops with the doh doh bottoms
and i think this setup would even out the softer top rebound

bones flat washer as a bottom washer
doh doh 98a bottoms
bones hard 96a tops (maybe shave 1mm off the plastic)
sleeved washer on top

Without knowing your weight/how tight you skated (assuming you like tight with the hard bushings) the bones tops compresses really fast, especially with hards (which is weird); you might get away without any modification.

I hear you on the conical bottoms, it forces a different feel than what was designed (like conicals in indy, or barrelt in thunders - just, don't...)

ACE HARD Lows will work in ventures, bottom too (it is shorter tho), and it doesn't throw them off that much; or just buy two sets and swap in the low top.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 27, 2024, 11:13:08 AM
tracker 2024? ::)

Haha. They don't got the juice.

What are we gonna say. Freds first sponsor and they broke orange man.

Took Crux 14 years to put him halfway back together again
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 27, 2024, 11:44:56 AM
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bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).
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@193lbs I have to use hard bushings no matter what and stock bushings across all brands are too soft.

If bones hards work for yuto, they can't be all that bad, right?
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have tried bones hards countless times
concluded i cant do conical bottoms
but ill try the tops with the doh doh bottoms
and i think this setup would even out the softer top rebound

bones flat washer as a bottom washer
doh doh 98a bottoms
bones hard 96a tops (maybe shave 1mm off the plastic)
sleeved washer on top
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Without knowing your weight/how tight you skated (assuming you like tight with the hard bushings) the bones tops compresses really fast, especially with hards (which is weird); you might get away without any modification.

I hear you on the conical bottoms, it forces a different feel than what was designed (like conicals in indy, or barrelt in thunders - just, don't...)

ACE HARD Lows will work in ventures, bottom too (it is shorter tho), and it doesn't throw them off that much; or just buy two sets and swap in the low top.
i definitely dont ride loose but idk if tight is the right word
im 6’6 and hover around 205-210 lbs
turning is way easier than you would think
a little lean does a lot with my build
anything sub 96a is pretty much out of the question, ABD

id say i like to avoid constant landing wheelbite
56mm radial fulls with forged ventures traumatized me
which made me break out an angle grinder in the first place
back on 52mm with 53 being my max
but now have to work around a ground down kingpin

conicals with ventures doesnt feel too off
but with my center of gravity, stability means everything
maybe if i weighed 40lbs less…but id look emaciated
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 27, 2024, 12:15:33 PM
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bones bushings in venture lo’s was the hack for a turny lower truck.
also quickens the turn on hi’s, and throwing out a washer or two, brings the axles in a wee bit.
i just keep it stock these days, but bones hards definitely worked for me (just get hards and loosen them, mediums and softs blow out even quicker).
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@193lbs I have to use hard bushings no matter what and stock bushings across all brands are too soft.

If bones hards work for yuto, they can't be all that bad, right?
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have tried bones hards countless times
concluded i cant do conical bottoms
but ill try the tops with the doh doh bottoms
and i think this setup would even out the softer top rebound

bones flat washer as a bottom washer
doh doh 98a bottoms
bones hard 96a tops (maybe shave 1mm off the plastic)
sleeved washer on top
[close]

Without knowing your weight/how tight you skated (assuming you like tight with the hard bushings) the bones tops compresses really fast, especially with hards (which is weird); you might get away without any modification.

I hear you on the conical bottoms, it forces a different feel than what was designed (like conicals in indy, or barrelt in thunders - just, don't...)

ACE HARD Lows will work in ventures, bottom too (it is shorter tho), and it doesn't throw them off that much; or just buy two sets and swap in the low top.
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i definitely dont ride loose but idk if tight is the right word
im 6’6 and hover around 205-210 lbs
turning is way easier than you would think
a little lean does a lot with my build
anything sub 96a is pretty much out of the question, ABD

id say i like to avoid constant landing wheelbite
56mm radial fulls with forged ventures traumatized me
which made me break out an angle grinder in the first place
back on 52mm with 53 being my max
but now have to work around a ground down kingpin

conicals with ventures doesnt feel too off
but with my center of gravity, stability means everything
maybe if i weighed 40lbs less…but id look emaciated

Same, anything less than 94a is wheelbite city and yeah, being on the heavier side, turning is way easier, even with hard bushings. It's why I moved to Ventures in the first place.

Prefer the pop of forged Ventures so I'm trapped at 52mm or less.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on January 27, 2024, 03:39:00 PM
anyone want a pair of one time used 5.2 Hollow Light Hi's for cheap?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on January 27, 2024, 06:12:41 PM
anyone want a pair of one time used 5.2 Hollow Light Hi's for cheap?
Yes , I’ll pm you
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on January 28, 2024, 03:01:10 AM
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i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.
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I chalked the pros switching from lo to hi based on availability, they clearly make less low than hi; Prod made the switch for 'more pop'.

51s are both great and shitty at the same time =D
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Either Lows are their best selling truck or they're cutting back production on Lows to focus on the His - Lows are usually sold out on online stores.
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From talking to some shops people, they will just not order any more low trucks, as they don't sell for them, in the same way they don't order smaller than 52 mm wheels, which might sell out the fastest too, but even Indy mids are being cleared out of some bigger shops just because they have way too much stock and need to get rid of them.

Once the low truck on a sub 8" board with 50 or 51 mm wheels might have been the ideal setup for tech dudes, but that is long gone, replaced by more people riding 8.25 through 8.38 to 8.5 and bigger, on any normal sized trucks on wheels anywhere from 52 mm through 53 and 54 mm sizes up to 60 mm in some cases.

 I also have the impression that the lows are disappearing little by little. Many pros who were on venture lows are now on v lights, which are considered medium with their 52 mm. (Westgate, PJ Ladd, I confirm because I asked them a few months ago on insta  ;D )

Even small wheels are in decline.. But I agree that 52 mm is the right compromise!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: backside_frontside on January 28, 2024, 06:10:23 AM
Damn, kids these days don’t even want to skate Venture Los SMH
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 28, 2024, 06:58:08 AM
we do
not everyone is riding sub 8” boards
to say the least
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on January 28, 2024, 08:41:08 AM
One idea to get a little more width out of the 5.2 lo’s could be to run those Andy Anderson wheels or maybe add one of those axle spacers with a slim titanium axle nut
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 28, 2024, 08:50:36 AM
One idea to get a little more width out of the 5.2 lo’s could be to run those Andy Anderson wheels or maybe add one of those axle spacers with a slim titanium axle nut

I admire the ingenuity but it's just not the same 🥲

2024 is not looking like the year of Venture unless they finally give us the 5.6 / 5.8 / 6.1 Low the 2 dozen of us are clamoring for!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 28, 2024, 11:53:41 AM
i dunno. i have my strong doubts on how many would ride the lo’s, even in bigger sizes.
it would totally be possible for someone to ride an 8.38, 5.2 lo’s w/3 inside washers, 52 conical fulls. haven’t seen anyone do it yet.
when i buy lo’s, or buy wheels for said trucks, and out myself, shop dudes look like i just landed. i could see them setting up a board with no griptape with less side eye.


for me, the issue with lower trucks is more about the wheel size, and being limited on spots, not the width.
i understand that i am a smaller adult (5’8” 175, size 10-10.5), so its not like i ‘need’ an 8.75 or whatever
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on January 28, 2024, 02:47:11 PM
i dunno. i have my strong doubts on how many would ride the lo’s, even in bigger sizes.
it would totally be possible for someone to ride an 8.38, 5.2 lo’s w/3 inside washers, 52 conical fulls. haven’t seen anyone do it yet.
when i buy lo’s, or buy wheels for said trucks, and out myself, shop dudes look like i just landed. i could see them setting up a board with no griptape with less side eye.


for me, the issue with lower trucks is more about the wheel size, and being limited on spots, not the width.
i understand that i am a smaller adult (5’8” 175, size 10-10.5), so its not like i ‘need’ an 8.75 or whatever
yuto rides them on pretty much anything
just make him the face of the campaign and they will sell
fail proof given his current pull if thats the main concern

that 8.38/5.2L setup sounds horrible
try it out if you have the equipment
you would quickly see why larger sizes are wanted
(https://i.ibb.co/WHPBjGv/IMG-2729.jpg) (https://ibb.co/VLQM5JY)
this was my attempt with an 8.5
& the wheels are 6.5mm wider than 52mm conical fulls
no solution to undersized hangers
also magic carpet with low trucks fucking blows
like yeah reynolds ran 8.5/139s, but those are 55mm tall

as for the weird looks in the shop
check my sig and recall the interaction ;) but being real
you seem like a good dude so dont take this the wrong way
the funny looks make sense, at least the way i imagine it

guy in his 40s walks in talking about lows and small wheels…
this can either be one of two things off rip:
a) nostalgia trip akin to people who buy santa cruz reissues
b) the goat that ive yet to see
i naturally would squint, like who the fuck is this?
chuckling or rolling my eyes could also be valid responses
that persons reaction to me would answer a/b

i probably have about 5 other jokes for that one
but i digress, theres a more glaring issue

venture lows are not “any old truck”
you request them with complete confidence
and a slight air of mystery
i wish i was making this up but they have this pedigree
that honestly no other truck on the market has
which is probably why dlx isnt rushing to fuck with them
its not like they need to

no other truck has this cabal, pros and joes
where the riders are outright doing the marketing
and keeping them alive and well. its THEIR truck

these are not quiver people
they are built different from almost everyone here
you wont catch them on another truck
proving yourself as an outsider is hilariously simple
anyone i asked about them just called them “ventures”
if i didnt know any better, thats on me
its the club inside the club

outside of the one person i skated with that swore by them
theres a small amount of times that ive seen them in the wild
but the memory of who was running them stays

the last joe i saw with lows pulled up, popular soho spot
was at least 10 years older than everyone there
orange blank and you know the truck when you see em
effortlessly nollie flip overcrooked the ledge first t no warmup
i sat my ass down, grabbed a beer and proceeded to watch
some of the best skating ive ever witnessed
and ive seen my fair share of pros in the streets
dude skated like he ran that setup all his life
thats what i see when i hear “venture low”

its not a truck for everybody to say the least
but the people who love them are lifelong customers
really low stakes given how well other ventures are selling
id think its just a matter of time really
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 28, 2024, 06:17:01 PM
mmmmmmmm


they are called venture lo’s.

i’ve ridden them, pretty consistently, over the last 25+ish years. i take long breaks from skating, sometimes health related, sometimes work/time related. i am not even good at skating. i often have different setups, sometimes a quiver, sometimes a pile of parts that i’m just putting together to try and feel something.

the reason i mentioned the shop side eye: i don’t think the handfuls of folks on slap would be enough of a reason to have a wider venture lo. maybe it’s just the current trends, but bigger wheels have been in for ahwile, and wheels greater than 52, and low trucks, aren’t the best match. the looks of disbelief told me, perhaps incorrectly, that low trucks are not wanted by the masses. i am in my mid-late 40s, i couldn’t look cool if i really wanted too. when i go to a park, im 30 years older than the majority. i often hate what they are into, there is harmony.

magic carpet leads to less wheelbite. folks will debate this, but i feel strongly that they are incorrect. trucks wider than the board is better for pinch aka desirable wheelbite. with magic carpet the trucks being inset from the edge, i feel like i need to lean further, before i get wheelbite.

yuto is an incredible skater, doing padless 5s on lo’s. i’m not sure if he’s driving the skate trends tho.  kai kishi looks like he’s on the same trucks.
some of the young folks tearing up the contests look like they are on smaller setups, but it’s hard to tell.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 28, 2024, 06:46:02 PM
We need the over 45 slappy crowd to get aboard the Venture train, yeah the metal grinds harder but you feel like an absolute G while doing so. That should increase the addressable market by at least 20 guys.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sans umbilical on January 29, 2024, 09:08:24 AM
I just set up my first set of 5.2 Lo's V-Hollow. I'm on an 8.06 Real. I'm coming off of 5.2 Standard. I also have a 6.1 V-Hollow set on an 8.5 Real True Mold and Standard 6.1 on a 9-inch. Gonz Family Affair. The madness is real.

By the way, I'll be 49 on the 9th. I'm a part of the over-45 Slappy crowd too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fartknocker415 on January 29, 2024, 09:18:20 AM
Munchbox over here really making me second guess my setup and contemplating starting over with some venture lows….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 29, 2024, 09:27:45 AM
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i thought it was interesting/cool, that ace started making a low. i was surprised….low trucks have been sorta out of favor for what? the last 10-12 years? more? i thought maybe it was going to be the start of a new wave.
but the pro’s that skated lo’s the longest, seemed to age out, and the other stalwarts, switched to venture hi’s, fairly recently. westgate, gino, felipe gustavo, pj, all maybe changed to hi’s?

i like trucks, they interest me more than any other skate part. i like something about all of the major brands.
but if i only had one more session, i’d grab some setup that had venture lo’s on it, and walk to a flatground spot.
that is the thing that kicks me of my fave trucks tho: walking to the spot. being stuck on 51s is….i love how small wheels feel when i pop/flip? but just rolling down the street sucks.
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I chalked the pros switching from lo to hi based on availability, they clearly make less low than hi; Prod made the switch for 'more pop'.

51s are both great and shitty at the same time =D
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Either Lows are their best selling truck or they're cutting back production on Lows to focus on the His - Lows are usually sold out on online stores.
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From talking to some shops people, they will just not order any more low trucks, as they don't sell for them, in the same way they don't order smaller than 52 mm wheels, which might sell out the fastest too, but even Indy mids are being cleared out of some bigger shops just because they have way too much stock and need to get rid of them.

Once the low truck on a sub 8" board with 50 or 51 mm wheels might have been the ideal setup for tech dudes, but that is long gone, replaced by more people riding 8.25 through 8.38 to 8.5 and bigger, on any normal sized trucks on wheels anywhere from 52 mm through 53 and 54 mm sizes up to 60 mm in some cases.
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 I also have the impression that the lows are disappearing little by little. Many pros who were on venture lows are now on v lights, which are considered medium with their 52 mm. (Westgate, PJ Ladd, I confirm because I asked them a few months ago on insta  ;D )

Even small wheels are in decline.. But I agree that 52 mm is the right compromise!

No one fuckin answers me on Instagram. That's a lie.

Mike Sinclair talked to me. Offered me a potential responsibility which I had to decline as I was unstable af. Then he sent me hollow trucks before they hit stores.

I'd say I owe.
I should draw something up for um.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 29, 2024, 11:05:05 PM
The Indy mid, Ace Lo, Slappy trucks….all Covid boom decisions….we got the hollow casts…and a mm off the bushings….thats all we’re getting… it’s over.  If anything Thunder will get the IKP but I wouldn’t hold my breath about any new venture shit…..how about a Bobby Puleo signature headwear?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on January 30, 2024, 07:36:06 AM
Am I correct in assuming the number on Ventures an Inch measurement of the Hangar Width?

I am on some really old Ventures from ~2010 for my winter beater rn, I believe they are 5.2's (8" board sits perfect on its side)
I have them really loose and pushed out as much as possible with 2-3 washers on the inside
I am finding if you go really fast, the turning isn't an issue at all. Maybe that goes for any truck though lol.

We need the over 45 slappy crowd to get aboard the Venture train, yeah the metal grinds harder but you feel like an absolute G while doing so. That should increase the addressable market by at least 20 guys.

I am not even 40 yet but I am starting to think it makes a little more sense to ride these than thunders for the type of skating I do. They last A LOT longer... I think Thunder has just got me with their super stacked team and marketing. Seems to me like DLX has just put more money into marketing that brand than Venture. The grind works fine for me, feels similar to Thunder.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 30, 2024, 12:36:04 PM
The Indy mid, Ace Lo, Slappy trucks….all Covid boom decisions….we got the hollow casts…and a mm off the bushings….thats all we’re getting… it’s over.  If anything Thunder will get the IKP but I wouldn’t hold my breath about any new venture shit…..how about a Bobby Puleo signature headwear?


if someone really wanted a low truck, wide, ace makes the 60s.
indy mids have their issues but they had those in wide sizes.
i’ve skated 151 thunder hollow lights, those worked well.

i’ll buy wide lo’s if they make em.


just bought x97s, 52s, as an attempt to only skate my beloved 5.2 L’s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 30, 2024, 05:27:30 PM
A Ben D campaign is the only hope.....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 30, 2024, 06:30:17 PM
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The Indy mid, Ace Lo, Slappy trucks….all Covid boom decisions….we got the hollow casts…and a mm off the bushings….thats all we’re getting… it’s over.  If anything Thunder will get the IKP but I wouldn’t hold my breath about any new venture shit…..how about a Bobby Puleo signature headwear?
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if someone really wanted a low truck, wide, ace makes the 60s.
indy mids have their issues but they had those in wide sizes.
i’ve skated 151 thunder hollow lights, those worked well.

i’ll buy wide lo’s if they make em.


just bought x97s, 52s, as an attempt to only skate my beloved 5.2 L’s

149 Forged Indy mids are soo nice - Shame they didn't make any without the IKP. They should have just made a 52mm cast Mindy, no IKP, no beefed up hanger...along side the forged mindys for those that want a low (50.5mm is fine).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rob on January 30, 2024, 07:16:53 PM
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The Indy mid, Ace Lo, Slappy trucks….all Covid boom decisions….we got the hollow casts…and a mm off the bushings….thats all we’re getting… it’s over.  If anything Thunder will get the IKP but I wouldn’t hold my breath about any new venture shit…..how about a Bobby Puleo signature headwear?
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if someone really wanted a low truck, wide, ace makes the 60s.
indy mids have their issues but they had those in wide sizes.
i’ve skated 151 thunder hollow lights, those worked well.

i’ll buy wide lo’s if they make em.


just bought x97s, 52s, as an attempt to only skate my beloved 5.2 L’s
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149 Forged Indy mids are soo nice - Shame they didn't make any without the IKP. They should have just made a 52mm cast Mindy, no IKP, no beefed up hanger...along side the forged mindys for those that want a low (50.5mm is fine).

I agree I love a solid kingpin but you know they would have to shorten the kingpin for clearance and that’s gonna be an issue with those who want a standard and can get mixed up with the reg height indy but nothing a simple bushing color and label can’t fix, just like the stage 4 reissue with red and Indy logo bushings compared to solid orange on standard stage 11 the mids with reg pins would need some probably gotti black bushings that are labeled mid but then again blue bushings would be best, red=stage 4, orange= stage 11 standard, blue= stage 11 mid.

Thanks to Ben and sewa I copped an old set of venture 5.2L pre deluxe merger I got lucky to find and so far I like them, they’re definitely I feel more turny, lighter and stable but I can see what sewa meant putting them side to side with the modern venture on Ben degros ventures, the modern 5.2 lo are more beefy and contoured on the pivot stem to hangar and they feel a little tighter or just less able to cut in a turn, the more modern ones to me kinda have that krux lean to them. Bushings can fix it but idk, what do I even know I’m just a kook with madness. The beefiness on the modern venture I can see why tho, they definitely look weak on the pivot stem and will snap if your trucks are tight and you land hard and jump alot of stuff.

Also I really hope Sinclair drops a slappy low, the standards are little high and tippy for me like a standard Indy stage 11 type 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 30, 2024, 09:02:58 PM
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The Indy mid, Ace Lo, Slappy trucks….all Covid boom decisions….we got the hollow casts…and a mm off the bushings….thats all we’re getting… it’s over.  If anything Thunder will get the IKP but I wouldn’t hold my breath about any new venture shit…..how about a Bobby Puleo signature headwear?
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if someone really wanted a low truck, wide, ace makes the 60s.
indy mids have their issues but they had those in wide sizes.
i’ve skated 151 thunder hollow lights, those worked well.

i’ll buy wide lo’s if they make em.


just bought x97s, 52s, as an attempt to only skate my beloved 5.2 L’s
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149 Forged Indy mids are soo nice - Shame they didn't make any without the IKP. They should have just made a 52mm cast Mindy, no IKP, no beefed up hanger...along side the forged mindys for those that want a low (50.5mm is fine).
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I agree I love a solid kingpin but you know they would have to shorten the kingpin for clearance and that’s gonna be an issue with those who want a standard and can get mixed up with the reg height indy but nothing a simple bushing color and label can’t fix, just like the stage 4 reissue with red and Indy logo bushings compared to solid orange on standard stage 11 the mids with reg pins would need some probably gotti black bushings that are labeled mid but then again blue bushings would be best, red=stage 4, orange= stage 11 standard, blue= stage 11 mid.

Thanks to Ben and sewa I copped an old set of venture 5.2L pre deluxe merger I got lucky to find and so far I like them, they’re definitely I feel more turny, lighter and stable but I can see what sewa meant putting them side to side with the modern venture on Ben degros ventures, the modern 5.2 lo are more beefy and contoured on the pivot stem to hangar and they feel a little tighter or just less able to cut in a turn, the more modern ones to me kinda have that krux lean to them. Bushings can fix it but idk, what do I even know I’m just a kook with madness. The beefiness on the modern venture I can see why tho, they definitely look weak on the pivot stem and will snap if your trucks are tight and you land hard and jump alot of stuff.

Also I really hope Sinclair drops a slappy low, the standards are little high and tippy for me like a standard Indy stage 11 type

i believe the previous royals, which i actually liked quite a bit, were 50.5. i like that height.
i’d probably love the forged indy mids.
the ikp is why i didn’t buy them.
i don’t like the height on indys, probably why i prefer stage 10s.

i say that i don’t like the height, but i don’t know what im talking about. i don’t like my pop, with indys quite as much. even that isn’t accurate: when i skate indys, sometimes i can hit a miracle, but i strikeout a lot. kickflips get messed up, but 360 flips are better.

after watching that episode, i too wanted to try the older ventures. the 5.2 hi’s, from street corner, would be sick.
older ventures are harder to find. less popular, compared to indy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rob on January 30, 2024, 11:00:11 PM
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The Indy mid, Ace Lo, Slappy trucks….all Covid boom decisions….we got the hollow casts…and a mm off the bushings….thats all we’re getting… it’s over.  If anything Thunder will get the IKP but I wouldn’t hold my breath about any new venture shit…..how about a Bobby Puleo signature headwear?
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if someone really wanted a low truck, wide, ace makes the 60s.
indy mids have their issues but they had those in wide sizes.
i’ve skated 151 thunder hollow lights, those worked well.

i’ll buy wide lo’s if they make em.


just bought x97s, 52s, as an attempt to only skate my beloved 5.2 L’s
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149 Forged Indy mids are soo nice - Shame they didn't make any without the IKP. They should have just made a 52mm cast Mindy, no IKP, no beefed up hanger...along side the forged mindys for those that want a low (50.5mm is fine).
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I agree I love a solid kingpin but you know they would have to shorten the kingpin for clearance and that’s gonna be an issue with those who want a standard and can get mixed up with the reg height indy but nothing a simple bushing color and label can’t fix, just like the stage 4 reissue with red and Indy logo bushings compared to solid orange on standard stage 11 the mids with reg pins would need some probably gotti black bushings that are labeled mid but then again blue bushings would be best, red=stage 4, orange= stage 11 standard, blue= stage 11 mid.

Thanks to Ben and sewa I copped an old set of venture 5.2L pre deluxe merger I got lucky to find and so far I like them, they’re definitely I feel more turny, lighter and stable but I can see what sewa meant putting them side to side with the modern venture on Ben degros ventures, the modern 5.2 lo are more beefy and contoured on the pivot stem to hangar and they feel a little tighter or just less able to cut in a turn, the more modern ones to me kinda have that krux lean to them. Bushings can fix it but idk, what do I even know I’m just a kook with madness. The beefiness on the modern venture I can see why tho, they definitely look weak on the pivot stem and will snap if your trucks are tight and you land hard and jump alot of stuff.

Also I really hope Sinclair drops a slappy low, the standards are little high and tippy for me like a standard Indy stage 11 type
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i believe the previous royals, which i actually liked quite a bit, were 50.5. i like that height.
i’d probably love the forged indy mids.
the ikp is why i didn’t buy them.
i don’t like the height on indys, probably why i prefer stage 10s.

i say that i don’t like the height, but i don’t know what im talking about. i don’t like my pop, with indys quite as much. even that isn’t accurate: when i skate indys, sometimes i can hit a miracle, but i strikeout a lot. kickflips get messed up, but 360 flips are better.

after watching that episode, i too wanted to try the older ventures. the 5.2 hi’s, from street corner, would be sick.
older ventures are harder to find. less popular, compared to indy.

Yeah I’m trying to get my hands on a set of 139 royals the current stage but from what I’m seeing and heard at the shop there’s a shortage of royal trucks in certain sizes,

I just don’t like the feel of the forged Indy’s, the the forged baseplates feel and sound so flimsy even though they’re supposed to be stronger, lighter and faster(just joking) but they just have this really off clunk to them, I’m curious if the mids make any difference since the hangars are beefier and it has a shaft nut in the baseplate. I got it they feel like cause it’s thinner they rattle you more on the terrain and I hate it

I got an old set of stage 10 149 my friend gave me and they’re fun and nostalgic but man they do not turn much and the angle makes the pop kinda odd, I love the nostalgia factor cause ha slam and hoffart would kill it with stage 10’s and the classic bones mediums swap but stage 11 even on the discontinued lows (that Leo Romero would be the only rider of) turned better but they were just a touch too low

Tiago and Carlos really hype me up to ride mids and I had them setup perfectly on my krooked full 8.2 but the madness eventually set in and I F**ked it all up, raw 144 mids

I think ima get a pair of 139 forged mids now

Yeah they were a real where’s Waldo moment cause most people had the old ventures in the 5.0 lo/7.6 but thanks to my madness brain experience I spotted a set on an old crusty think setup an older guy was selling for cheap and nabbed them asap, it took a day or 2 to make sure what I was looking at was the 5.2 cause the deluxe remastered venture with stronger hangar and baseplate I like the 5.0 but the 5.2 are a little hefty for low 8” trucks, but you already know you can see the hangar has some extra length in reference to the kingpin and size of the baseplate that’s how I made a good guess

Crazy side note, the old ventures hangars are a little longer which you would think it’s the other way around and the older ones don’t have the 5.2L casted on the hangar.

I can’t say yet if they’re night and day difference and better than the DLX remaster but they’re slightly more pulled back and feel like they snap quicker so maybe that’s what sewa was talking about

I’ll try to post pics to show a better comparison soon

All the old venture guys really hype me on these like pj cause I wanna skate just like him but we’ll see how long that last

I always wanted a pair of ventures back in the hay day of 7.5-7.8 decks and 7.6 trucks being the norm and riding your wheels to death like they slappy trucks to axle today and trying to bomb your bearings til there’s no more lube so it would hiss and be “faster” and roll longer, days before the madness ever was even a thought I tried out my friends setup with krux the ole 3.5 downlows and loved them so I forgot about the venture hype, also this was peak ventures being the cool trucks cause low and light and I couldn’t afford a set

Anyways those kader 5.6 cast hollows are really nice but I can’t justify the spending since I already have a set of 5.6

I wonder if they’re gonna do a redesign anytime soon for “more turn” and a wider lo truck(that 5.6 lo)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on January 31, 2024, 02:04:43 PM
The only thing I really see/hear is Thunder is probably doing something…..Venture is always going to be the stepchild and that’s why we love it…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on January 31, 2024, 02:26:46 PM
I wonder if they’re gonna do a redesign anytime soon for “more turn” and a wider lo truck(that 5.6 lo)

I promise you, neither of these will ever happen.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 31, 2024, 05:53:05 PM
The only thing I really see/hear is Thunder is probably doing something…..Venture is always going to be the stepchild and that’s why we love it…..

Seeing Ishod ride Ventures with the double drilled baseplates gives me a glimmer of hope that we'd get something new, but I'm not holding my breath for that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 31, 2024, 06:27:26 PM
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The only thing I really see/hear is Thunder is probably doing something…..Venture is always going to be the stepchild and that’s why we love it…..
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Seeing Ishod ride Ventures with the double drilled baseplates gives me a glimmer of hope that we'd get something new, but I'm not holding my breath for that.

i’d just like the measurements of the dbl drilled baseplate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Jaewon on January 31, 2024, 07:00:10 PM
As a long time indy/ace guy, I now fully believe in the venture, long tail gang.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 01, 2024, 03:09:57 AM
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The only thing I really see/hear is Thunder is probably doing something…..Venture is always going to be the stepchild and that’s why we love it…..
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Seeing Ishod ride Ventures with the double drilled baseplates gives me a glimmer of hope that we'd get something new, but I'm not holding my breath for that.
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i’d just like the measurements of the dbl drilled baseplate.


The original six hole baseplates made it 3/8 difference on each truck, but I think those trucks are drilled about 1/4" each so a half inch shorter wheelbase in total, which works really well for some of those longer boards out there, especially if you like a little more in the tail too.

As Venture are longer in wheelbase anyway, it actually works out really well, on something like the DLX 8.38 board with 14.5 wb that comes down to 14 even, which is what I put those trucks on when I tried them out.


I still haven't seen any more about them, or tried drilling out any of these baseplates I have here, but it is on the to do list, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 01, 2024, 06:09:16 AM
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The only thing I really see/hear is Thunder is probably doing something…..Venture is always going to be the stepchild and that’s why we love it…..
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Seeing Ishod ride Ventures with the double drilled baseplates gives me a glimmer of hope that we'd get something new, but I'm not holding my breath for that.
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i’d just like the measurements of the dbl drilled baseplate.
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The original six hole baseplates made it 3/8 difference on each truck, but I think those trucks are drilled about 1/4" each so a half inch shorter wheelbase in total, which works really well for some of those longer boards out there, especially if you like a little more in the tail too.

As Venture are longer in wheelbase anyway, it actually works out really well, on something like the DLX 8.38 board with 14.5 wb that comes down to 14 even, which is what I put those trucks on when I tried them out.


I still haven't seen any more about them, or tried drilling out any of these baseplates I have here, but it is on the to do list, that's for sure.

i will bug you about this more, in the future
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 01, 2024, 09:22:04 PM
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The only thing I really see/hear is Thunder is probably doing something…..Venture is always going to be the stepchild and that’s why we love it…..
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Seeing Ishod ride Ventures with the double drilled baseplates gives me a glimmer of hope that we'd get something new, but I'm not holding my breath for that.
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i’d just like the measurements of the dbl drilled baseplate.
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The original six hole baseplates made it 3/8 difference on each truck, but I think those trucks are drilled about 1/4" each so a half inch shorter wheelbase in total, which works really well for some of those longer boards out there, especially if you like a little more in the tail too.

As Venture are longer in wheelbase anyway, it actually works out really well, on something like the DLX 8.38 board with 14.5 wb that comes down to 14 even, which is what I put those trucks on when I tried them out.


I still haven't seen any more about them, or tried drilling out any of these baseplates I have here, but it is on the to do list, that's for sure.
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i will bug you about this more, in the future


I wonder if anyone has hit up DLX asking about double drilled Venture baseplates yet - could be a thing, or strictly DIY at your own risk type of deal.

Either way, it might make Venture an option for a whole lot more skaters if it was like that - baseplate drilled like a Thunder truck more in the middle than at the ends where it currently sits now.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on February 02, 2024, 12:56:16 AM
As Venture bushings are basically nonexistent outside of new trucks, which bushings are the best (size-wise) as replacements for Venture Hi's? Indy?

Tried searching but got lost in the jungle. Much obliged.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 02, 2024, 03:01:56 AM
As Venture bushings are basically nonexistent outside of new trucks, which bushings are the best (size-wise) as replacements for Venture Hi's? Indy?

Tried searching but got lost in the jungle. Much obliged.


Indy bushings definitely work in them, maybe the most common bushings to get hold of in almost all duro options and are the same shape and work well.

Other people have tried Doh Dohs, Pig bushings and more I just can't remember right now, with mixed results, but I guess it is down to what you prefer the most.

Or what colours you can or cannot deal with for bushings, but the Indy 88 duro red bushings actually work quite well as stock replacements, or for people who want a little more stiffness in their trucks, but can still turn as needed.

I tried them in everything, mainly because I had a lot of them left over from a shop closing, but they have a reputation for being annoyingly different, otherwise the blue 92 duro work well, no issues and are the most common bushing for people to get, which feel a bit better than stock once broken in.  Of course the orange also work well, but I always feel weird, orange bushings in Indy = yes, orange in any other truck = not if I can help it.





Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on February 02, 2024, 06:31:12 AM
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As Venture bushings are basically nonexistent outside of new trucks, which bushings are the best (size-wise) as replacements for Venture Hi's? Indy?

Tried searching but got lost in the jungle. Much obliged.
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Indy bushings definitely work in them, maybe the most common bushings to get hold of in almost all duro options and are the same shape and work well.

Other people have tried Doh Dohs, Pig bushings and more I just can't remember right now, with mixed results, but I guess it is down to what you prefer the most.

Or what colours you can or cannot deal with for bushings, but the Indy 88 duro red bushings actually work quite well as stock replacements, or for people who want a little more stiffness in their trucks, but can still turn as needed.

I tried them in everything, mainly because I had a lot of them left over from a shop closing, but they have a reputation for being annoyingly different, otherwise the blue 92 duro work well, no issues and are the most common bushing for people to get, which feel a bit better than stock once broken in.  Of course the orange also work well, but I always feel weird, orange bushings in Indy = yes, orange in any other truck = not if I can help it.

Thanks! Yeah I vaguely remember Indy bushings being mentioned as a possible option for Ventures here too, I just wasn't sure about the size. I ride the blue 92s in my Indys and love 'em. Also, no problem about the colour -- I might be in the minority, but I really don't care what colour my bushings are. The more weird the combination the better, almost.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on February 02, 2024, 06:44:06 AM
i'm currently running the blue indy top bushings in venture 5.6s highs. the bushing is slightly taller than stock, but it's been working fine for me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: art hellman on February 02, 2024, 08:25:21 AM
Why is the thread called venture 2020? Did something change that year? Recently picked up some 6.1s, came with yellow bushings and the manufacture date in the sticker was 2020. Are they still identical to the trucks from this year with the purple bushings?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azWJSAyb6T0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azWJSAyb6T0)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on February 02, 2024, 10:59:05 AM
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Why is the thread called venture 2020? Did something change that year? Recently picked up some 6.1s, came with yellow bushings and the manufacture date in the sticker was 2020. Are they still identical to the trucks from this year with the purple bushings?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azWJSAyb6T0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azWJSAyb6T0)

This needs to be written in the scriptures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 02, 2024, 11:46:15 AM
As Venture bushings are basically nonexistent outside of new trucks, which bushings are the best (size-wise) as replacements for Venture Hi's? Indy?

Tried searching but got lost in the jungle. Much obliged.

Deluxe Tack & Supply Supercush bushings, if you can find them or just use Indy, the tops are 1mm taller at best and work fine. Currently running Indy Black barrrel bottoms, bones hard tops (they compress down real nice, no need for a washer) in my forged 5.8s now that I ride tighter.

If you like looser, ACE regular bottoms and ACE HARD LOW tops (requires two sets of bushing$); is an amazing combo in Ventures...they get so swervy but still stable.

Was our Savior Bobby riding the 14.44 WB twin back then? Ventures + that wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelbaaaaaaaaaaase.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 02, 2024, 12:37:11 PM
im on 14.5 with forged baseplates
the idea that it shouldnt work is greatly exaggerated
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 02, 2024, 03:25:04 PM
Why is the thread called venture 2020? Did something change that year? Recently picked up some 6.1s, came with yellow bushings and the manufacture date in the sticker was 2020. Are they still identical to the trucks from this year with the purple bushings?


Probably way too late now, but yes they are the same trucks, just the first release of the wider 6.1 truck on the market had the yellow bushings, as per a set I have, compared to a more recent set I just got recently with the usual purple bushings.

Comparing the trucks they are the same look and feel and everything else.



And I have put 6.1 Ventures on an AH white eagle 8.75 board with 14.6 wb and they work well.  Maybe the wider versions work better, but I also skated 5.8 on an 8.5 board which also skated well.

I guess it is down to what you are used to or what you adapt to, not just what facts and figures on paper or the internet say.







Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 02, 2024, 08:40:02 PM
The newest shiny Venture bushings are off the chain.

I got to ride two boards today. One the 13.8 wb with 5.8s has white Indy super softs. They're well broken in. They take about two hours to freeze to a Krux k4 cranked tightness.
It's my main winter bushing because of that. Unless I got a dlx loose trucks kit. Or a well cut purple front bushing.

I got my 6.1s on a 14" wb  same brand that have the NEW AWESOME METALLIC Purps. They're the best set of bushings I've had since V2020. Maybe since like 2016. That includes the bones med top ace stock bottom combo that I loved before becoming full time awake.

The purps with the Glow and the light color don't freeze all the way. When they do my flat washers jingle and the Heaven Ride kicks in like VTEC.

It's the best feeling on earth. I should just chop a mm of my bait and tackle hard green warlords. I got um on ice. Case I get a ride up to the ramp. Then I'll bust um out. Show everyone the glory.

I hope they stick around. Everyone who's stepped into my board with the 6.1s agreed. They feel so good. People comparison the feeling old trucks gave.

These are respected opinions to me. The highest really. No one else I know is more legit a skate brain world wide.

I say YES! I feel like a kid when I'm going. Kinda like old Thunders.

They said Indy tho
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 02, 2024, 09:28:58 PM
I just plain don’t skate boards that big but what makes the bigger ventures so good?  I’d guess deeper turning? 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on February 03, 2024, 03:32:50 AM
Been absolutely loving the DLX True Fit 8.25 x 31.5 x 13.88 with my 5.6 V-Lights recently. Haven't felt this agile on a board in a while. Even had a blast on transition the other day.

I just need a short enough tail when my wheelbase is short -- if the tail is much over 6.5, my pop seems to go haywire.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 04, 2024, 11:54:17 AM
I just plain don’t skate boards that big but what makes the bigger ventures so good?  I’d guess deeper turning?

Definitely a factor. I'm putting the new awesome purps in my 5.8s rn.

I'll have a better idea after that.

I gotta make the 6.1 the PT truck. It's funny to say but I just can't hang. My kickflips at regular cruiser speed hit primo 1/5 on the 6.1. On the 5.8 it's like 1/15. Could be the 9" bloard or the Radial full.

I'm doing a full mix up and cleaning of surfaces as I type.

But yeah
The turn is the ultimate boner factor of the 6.1.

Plus I been watching Brian O'Dwyer's Baker has a death wish over and over. I'm kinda done pretending to be Kader for a few weeks. Ive been finding myself rolling around whistling When the lights go down in the city everywhere I go.

6.1 in the spring. 5.8s rn. I'd do my 5.6s but I'm feeling Uber lazy post illness. Illnesses. This season has been brutal.here.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 04, 2024, 04:58:00 PM
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I just plain don’t skate boards that big but what makes the bigger ventures so good?  I’d guess deeper turning?
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Definitely a factor. I'm putting the new awesome purps in my 5.8s rn.

Where? how?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on February 04, 2024, 06:22:53 PM
I left my board behind at the skatepark a couple weeks ago. Had my 5.2 V-Lights on it. Thought it was gone forever, but turns out local homie grabbed it and has been holding onto it for me.

It's just a skateboard, but those trucks are near and dear to my heart at this point. So thankful to him for grabbing my setup. He's a fellow Venture rider, so I am going to offer my 5.6 V-Hollows to him as a reward.

God bless skateboarders for giving a damn about each other.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 04, 2024, 07:17:26 PM
I left my board behind at the skatepark a couple weeks ago. Had my 5.2 V-Lights on it. Thought it was gone forever, but turns out local homie grabbed it and has been holding onto it for me.

It's just a skateboard, but those trucks are near and dear to my heart at this point. So thankful to him for grabbing my setup. He's a fellow Venture rider, so I am going to offer my 5.6 V-Hollows to him as a reward.

God bless skateboarders for giving a damn about each other.


what’s your fave deck with the 5.2 v-lights (i’m assuming hi’s)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on February 04, 2024, 07:24:10 PM
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I left my board behind at the skatepark a couple weeks ago. Had my 5.2 V-Lights on it. Thought it was gone forever, but turns out local homie grabbed it and has been holding onto it for me.

It's just a skateboard, but those trucks are near and dear to my heart at this point. So thankful to him for grabbing my setup. He's a fellow Venture rider, so I am going to offer my 5.6 V-Hollows to him as a reward.

God bless skateboarders for giving a damn about each other.
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what’s your fave deck with the 5.2 v-lights (i’m assuming hi’s)

8.125 PS Stix, no question.

(And, yessir 5.2 V-Light hi- too scared to try the 5.2 lo on forged baseplates lol)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 04, 2024, 08:12:04 PM
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I left my board behind at the skatepark a couple weeks ago. Had my 5.2 V-Lights on it. Thought it was gone forever, but turns out local homie grabbed it and has been holding onto it for me.

It's just a skateboard, but those trucks are near and dear to my heart at this point. So thankful to him for grabbing my setup. He's a fellow Venture rider, so I am going to offer my 5.6 V-Hollows to him as a reward.

God bless skateboarders for giving a damn about each other.
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what’s your fave deck with the 5.2 v-lights (i’m assuming hi’s)
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8.125 PS Stix, no question.

(And, yessir 5.2 V-Light hi- too scared to try the 5.2 lo on forged baseplates lol)


thanks!

was just skating the 5.2 lo’s on an 8.125 PS (with 52 v1 x97s….)

i’ve skated Lo’s off and on for ever. Forged Lo’s are really hard to skate.
forged plate hi’s are great tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on February 04, 2024, 08:21:53 PM
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I left my board behind at the skatepark a couple weeks ago. Had my 5.2 V-Lights on it. Thought it was gone forever, but turns out local homie grabbed it and has been holding onto it for me.

It's just a skateboard, but those trucks are near and dear to my heart at this point. So thankful to him for grabbing my setup. He's a fellow Venture rider, so I am going to offer my 5.6 V-Hollows to him as a reward.

God bless skateboarders for giving a damn about each other.
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what’s your fave deck with the 5.2 v-lights (i’m assuming hi’s)
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8.125 PS Stix, no question.

(And, yessir 5.2 V-Light hi- too scared to try the 5.2 lo on forged baseplates lol)
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thanks!

was just skating the 5.2 lo’s on an 8.125 PS (with 52 v1 x97s….)

i’ve skated Lo’s off and on for ever. Forged Lo’s are really hard to skate.
forged plate hi’s are great tho.

Post yr shit mane!

Los are what I want to skate all the time, but even 52s are pushing it.

The forged hi's work really well for my supremely subpar skillset. Though they definitely do extend the wheelbase noticeably more than cast varieties.

I'm on a mission to settle into my favorite 8" truck this year between 5.2 hi V-Lights, Thunder 147 and 5.2 lo. God bless my mess.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on February 05, 2024, 08:35:44 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cksgDZz.png)
ishod still riding ventures on the miles silvas soty trip in mexico
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 05, 2024, 10:30:49 AM
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I just plain don’t skate boards that big but what makes the bigger ventures so good?  I’d guess deeper turning?
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Definitely a factor. I'm putting the new awesome purps in my 5.8s rn.
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Where? how?

They just changed the formula or something.

The clear one's with the sparkling interior are the ones
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 05, 2024, 10:47:06 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/cksgDZz.png)
ishod still riding ventures on the miles silvas soty trip in mexico

i wonder if these are the dbl drilled ones.
is he skating 5.2 hi’s?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 05, 2024, 10:51:23 AM
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I just plain don’t skate boards that big but what makes the bigger ventures so good?  I’d guess deeper turning?
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Definitely a factor. I'm putting the new awesome purps in my 5.8s rn.

I'll have a better idea after that.

I gotta make the 6.1 the PT truck. It's funny to say but I just can't hang. My kickflips at regular cruiser speed hit primo 1/5 on the 6.1. On the 5.8 it's like 1/15. Could be the 9" bloard or the Radial full.

I'm doing a full mix up and cleaning of surfaces as I type.

But yeah
The turn is the ultimate boner factor of the 6.1.

Plus I been watching Brian O'Dwyer's Baker has a death wish over and over. I'm kinda done pretending to be Kader for a few weeks. Ive been finding myself rolling around whistling When the lights go down in the city everywhere I go.

6.1 in the spring. 5.8s rn. I'd do my 5.6s but I'm feeling Uber lazy post illness. Illnesses. This season has been brutal.here.


i shouldn’t skate sizes that big, it does nothing for my skating.
i am of the firm belief that wider trucks turn less, and that is why i like them: stability.

flea: does kader skate 6.1s? does BOD skate 5.8s?
 just by the by, board/truck sizes seem to be creeping towards smaller, but i’m not sure. feels like i’m seeing more overhang, less hotrod, maybe folks moving towards 5.6, from 5.8. but that’s just glancing at videos, hard to tell.

as far as who i’m trying to invoke with my ventures….nick matthews, Lavar, Puleo
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 05, 2024, 03:00:42 PM
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ishod still riding ventures on the miles silvas soty trip in mexico
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i wonder if these are the dbl drilled ones.
is he skating 5.2 hi’s?


Guessing they are the same ones, really giving them a good go - they look well used on close inspection - hangers have some major grooves in them.


Also I think Kader was on a bigger board with 6.1 but now on 5.8s from what someone else had said / posted a while back, when he went down to a more normal size board, truck, wheel combo.

Could be wrong though as I don't really pay a whole lot of attention to him, but I have a Baker Kader 9 with 169s on it, all trade ins from others, which is kind of fun to stand on and compare.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on February 05, 2024, 04:39:40 PM
carl aikens pro v-hollow
5.2 low and 5.6
(https://i.ibb.co/kBcNmDf/IMG-2757.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tKCVL2t)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 05, 2024, 06:20:38 PM
carl aikens pro v-hollow
5.2 low and 5.6
(https://i.ibb.co/kBcNmDf/IMG-2757.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tKCVL2t)


looked at em for the 5.2L….my Lo’s rn are the gilbert cw from a few years back, and a raw truck would be nice.
not mad at how these look.
not gonna tho
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 05, 2024, 06:23:04 PM
carl aikens pro v-hollow
5.2 low and 5.6
(https://i.ibb.co/kBcNmDf/IMG-2757.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tKCVL2t)

I occasionally like to mix it up with a colored baseplate but this is an unfortunate color combination.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 05, 2024, 06:23:47 PM
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I just plain don’t skate boards that big but what makes the bigger ventures so good?  I’d guess deeper turning?
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Definitely a factor. I'm putting the new awesome purps in my 5.8s rn.
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Where? how?
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They just changed the formula or something.

The clear one's with the sparkling interior are the ones

Right, but where/how did you get them? You said "I'm putting the new awesome purps in my 5.8s rn." did you swap them when new or something?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on February 05, 2024, 07:21:48 PM
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carl aikens pro v-hollow
5.2 low and 5.6
(https://i.ibb.co/kBcNmDf/IMG-2757.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tKCVL2t)
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I occasionally like to mix it up with a colored baseplate but this is an unfortunate color combination.

the shirt color combo is p good tho
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 05, 2024, 07:37:13 PM
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carl aikens pro v-hollow
5.2 low and 5.6
(https://i.ibb.co/kBcNmDf/IMG-2757.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tKCVL2t)
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I occasionally like to mix it up with a colored baseplate but this is an unfortunate color combination.

It's horrible...at least top that shit off with gold hardware (FFS just  swap hardware between these and the Salt and Pepper, BOTH would look way better).

Also, lighting is everything - each looks like a different colorway
(https://i.ibb.co/Z69m7xj/Screenshot-2024-02-05-194228.png) (https://ibb.co/Z69m7xj)
(https://i.ibb.co/z4XbdgZ/Screenshot-2024-02-05-194700.png) (https://ibb.co/z4XbdgZ)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: slapattack on February 05, 2024, 07:40:48 PM
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The only thing I really see/hear is Thunder is probably doing something…..Venture is always going to be the stepchild and that’s why we love it…..
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Seeing Ishod ride Ventures with the double drilled baseplates gives me a glimmer of hope that we'd get something new, but I'm not holding my breath for that.
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i’d just like the measurements of the dbl drilled baseplate.
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The original six hole baseplates made it 3/8 difference on each truck, but I think those trucks are drilled about 1/4" each so a half inch shorter wheelbase in total, which works really well for some of those longer boards out there, especially if you like a little more in the tail too.

As Venture are longer in wheelbase anyway, it actually works out really well, on something like the DLX 8.38 board with 14.5 wb that comes down to 14 even, which is what I put those trucks on when I tried them out.


I still haven't seen any more about them, or tried drilling out any of these baseplates I have here, but it is on the to do list, that's for sure.
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i will bug you about this more, in the future
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I wonder if anyone has hit up DLX asking about double drilled Venture baseplates yet - could be a thing, or strictly DIY at your own risk type of deal.

Either way, it might make Venture an option for a whole lot more skaters if it was like that - baseplate drilled like a Thunder truck more in the middle than at the ends where it currently sits now.

I saw Tanner Burzinski post a setup pic a while back with double drilled ventures and assumed he did it himself but now I think we might be onto something.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Puddy Smally on February 06, 2024, 10:33:58 AM
So I have a question I’m hoping one of our resident gear freak scientists can assist with.

Basically I’m curious to try a set of 6.1 loose trucks, but I’m
Not 100% I’m going to take to them. As a precaution, and knowing Venture doesn’t sell aftermarket bushings.. I’m wondering if any of you can point me onto a set of after market bushings I can purchase that are comparable to the current bushings in a stick set of Ventures? (That felt like a mountain of explaining)!

As in, a replacement set of bushings that is drop in replacement, same size and durometer.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: onkalo on February 06, 2024, 01:34:25 PM
So I have a question I’m hoping one of our resident gear freak scientists can assist with.

Basically I’m curious to try a set of 6.1 loose trucks, but I’m
Not 100% I’m going to take to them. As a precaution, and knowing Venture doesn’t sell aftermarket bushings.. I’m wondering if any of you can point me onto a set of after market bushings I can purchase that are comparable to the current bushings in a stick set of Ventures? (That felt like a mountain of explaining)!

As in, a replacement set of bushings that is drop in replacement, same size and durometer.

Deluxe supercush, indy bushings and doh dohs have worked well for me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Made In China on February 06, 2024, 01:43:42 PM
So I have a question I’m hoping one of our resident gear freak scientists can assist with.

Basically I’m curious to try a set of 6.1 loose trucks, but I’m
Not 100% I’m going to take to them. As a precaution, and knowing Venture doesn’t sell aftermarket bushings.. I’m wondering if any of you can point me onto a set of after market bushings I can purchase that are comparable to the current bushings in a stick set of Ventures? (That felt like a mountain of explaining)!

As in, a replacement set of bushings that is drop in replacement, same size and durometer.
I don't think this fits your bill, but I run my Ventures with their loose conversation kit and that works well for how loose I like my trucks. I think it's the same durometer as the stock bushings, just with a smaller top. There's a graphic on this link that explains it.

https://www.firstgearskateshop.com/product/venture-loose-truck-conversion-kit/4851
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Puddy Smally on February 06, 2024, 01:54:42 PM
Awesome! You guys are the best, thank you.

I tend to like looser on wider setups, so my interest is piqued on these. I actually have a set of Indy aftermarket’s sitting in a bin, so if worse comes to worse that’s what I’ll do.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 06, 2024, 05:17:57 PM
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I just plain don’t skate boards that big but what makes the bigger ventures so good?  I’d guess deeper turning?
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Definitely a factor. I'm putting the new awesome purps in my 5.8s rn.

I'll have a better idea after that.

I gotta make the 6.1 the PT truck. It's funny to say but I just can't hang. My kickflips at regular cruiser speed hit primo 1/5 on the 6.1. On the 5.8 it's like 1/15. Could be the 9" bloard or the Radial full.

I'm doing a full mix up and cleaning of surfaces as I type.

But yeah
The turn is the ultimate boner factor of the 6.1.

Plus I been watching Brian O'Dwyer's Baker has a death wish over and over. I'm kinda done pretending to be Kader for a few weeks. Ive been finding myself rolling around whistling When the lights go down in the city everywhere I go.

6.1 in the spring. 5.8s rn. I'd do my 5.6s but I'm feeling Uber lazy post illness. Illnesses. This season has been brutal.here.
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i shouldn’t skate sizes that big, it does nothing for my skating.
i am of the firm belief that wider trucks turn less, and that is why i like them: stability.

flea: does kader skate 6.1s? does BOD skate 5.8s?
 just by the by, board/truck sizes seem to be creeping towards smaller, but i’m not sure. feels like i’m seeing more overhang, less hotrod, maybe folks moving towards 5.6, from 5.8. but that’s just glancing at videos, hard to tell.

as far as who i’m trying to invoke with my ventures….nick matthews, Lavar, Puleo

I assumed he did. Remember he was riding 9" boards. That might be before tho.

After swapping the bushings over to the 5.8.  Either I gotta miracle set or the got the game changer formula.

I'm going to buy my next set in shop so I can single out the lighter purple bushings with the sparkling flake interior.
After that I'll know for 100 what happened.

Let hope the trend sticks around. Either way I got a set that barely freezes. Turn like a dream and got no obvious cracks forming.

I'm going to throw them in my old Indys sometime maybe. Indy super softs can hang in the winter at all.

I've had the loose trucks kit last winter and purps of broken bones the last like 4.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 09, 2024, 03:39:27 AM
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Is it time for Venture 2024???


Anyway, I had a rainy day and decided to see if I could drill out a set of baseplates at 1/4" difference and it is not pretty but it worked.  Had a bit of a skate just on flat doing a few ollies and minimal other stuff, but the angle of pop is more mellow than my other 8.38 on Indy standards, so this might be too much unless they redo the baseplates to resemble Thunder truck baseplate hole patterns, more so than having it in this far.


Posted on Instagram (below) but if anyone wants better / more / other pics, I can take some as well.


https://www.instagram.com/p/C3HfTjnJprK/


Venture truck baseplate redrill

* Drill bit should be 5 mm, to fit nicely but you can use a smaller one and widen out the holes too.

People had been talking about this for a while now, Eric Koston and others doing it for years, but recently Ishod Wair had some redrilled Venture trucks on his board in some clips and people were keen to see if it was worth the hype, so I drilled out a set of old Venture 5.6 trucks I had and I can say it definitely makes street stuff a lot easier on one of my old second hand 8.38 boards that has a 14.5 wheelbase.

These ones I drilled at 1/4" difference, so although the new holes are almost into the old holes they should hold up better than in something else like redrilling a deck.

Note, I have some old six hole baseplates which have 3/8" difference which I had set up and skated before but I think the 1/4" difference is better, so total 1/2" all up on these ones, not 3/4" shorter wheelbase as per those other older six hole trucks.

My method was not at all pretty and I only used what I had, but the metal drill bit worked very easily to get through the baseplate material, with some wood, bricks and boards set up as a temporary jig to hold the baseplates.

I would definitely make a bit more effort and get a smaller drill bit if I was doing this again in new or other trucks, but it works and I got the baseplates on straight enough this time.

These sit in a lot more than my usual Indy standards on the same deck, so I would say this would work well on longer wheelbase boards with shorter kicks, like these DLX 8.38 decks.

Also used an angle grinder on the lettering to take it down where the nut sits too.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 09, 2024, 06:03:03 AM
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Is it time for Venture 2024???


Anyway, I had a rainy day and decided to see if I could drill out a set of baseplates at 1/4" difference and it is not pretty but it worked.  Had a bit of a skate just on flat doing a few ollies and minimal other stuff, but the angle of pop is more mellow than my other 8.38 on Indy standards, so this might be too much unless they redo the baseplates to resemble Thunder truck baseplate hole patterns, more so than having it in this far.


Posted on Instagram (below) but if anyone wants better / more / other pics, I can take some as well.


https://www.instagram.com/p/C3HfTjnJprK/


Venture truck baseplate redrill

* Drill bit should be 5 mm, to fit nicely but you can use a smaller one and widen out the holes too.

People had been talking about this for a while now, Eric Koston and others doing it for years, but recently Ishod Wair had some redrilled Venture trucks on his board in some clips and people were keen to see if it was worth the hype, so I drilled out a set of old Venture 5.6 trucks I had and I can say it definitely makes street stuff a lot easier on one of my old second hand 8.38 boards that has a 14.5 wheelbase.

These ones I drilled at 1/4" difference, so although the new holes are almost into the old holes they should hold up better than in something else like redrilling a deck.

Note, I have some old six hole baseplates which have 3/8" difference which I had set up and skated before but I think the 1/4" difference is better, so total 1/2" all up on these ones, not 3/4" shorter wheelbase as per those other older six hole trucks.

My method was not at all pretty and I only used what I had, but the metal drill bit worked very easily to get through the baseplate material, with some wood, bricks and boards set up as a temporary jig to hold the baseplates.

I would definitely make a bit more effort and get a smaller drill bit if I was doing this again in new or other trucks, but it works and I got the baseplates on straight enough this time.

These sit in a lot more than my usual Indy standards on the same deck, so I would say this would work well on longer wheelbase boards with shorter kicks, like these DLX 8.38 decks.

Also used an angle grinder on the lettering to take it down where the nut sits too.

THANK YOU
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on February 09, 2024, 08:43:46 AM
Appreciate the effort. The tiny tiny space between the new and old holes looks pretty sketchy though. Wonder how that will hold in serious ass skating?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 09, 2024, 08:50:37 AM
@Mbrimson88 doing DLX's work for them, thank you.

How much did it shift the wheelbase in? Always wondered what a Venture / Thunder / Indy hybrid would skate like, that isn't the new Royal standard.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on February 09, 2024, 09:19:55 AM
Appreciate the effort. The tiny tiny space between the new and old holes looks pretty sketchy though. Wonder how that will hold in serious ass skating?

also would be my biggest worry if i decided to try this
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Musicaldeath107 on February 09, 2024, 10:16:50 AM
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Appreciate the effort. The tiny tiny space between the new and old holes looks pretty sketchy though. Wonder how that will hold in serious ass skating?
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also would be my biggest worry if i decided to try this

I think if you plugged the old holes with something like JB weld that would provide enough strength for there to be no issue.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: iw0 on February 09, 2024, 12:24:23 PM
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Appreciate the effort. The tiny tiny space between the new and old holes looks pretty sketchy though. Wonder how that will hold in serious ass skating?
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also would be my biggest worry if i decided to try this
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I think if you plugged the old holes with something like JB weld that would provide enough strength for there to be no issue.

this satisfies my worry, thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 09, 2024, 12:44:02 PM
1/4” seems to be much much better, wheelbase wise, compared to 3/8”
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Puddy Smally on February 09, 2024, 02:30:49 PM
Tried out the 6.1 loose truck today and it is entirely too loose for my skating. It feels great, even extremely fun to skate, but I flip my board a lot and it’s too unstable for that.

I would really love them if I was a cruiser type or intended to skate transition with Ventures (I’d just switch back to Ace).

So anyways that experience was extremely short lived, and I’m gonna use my usual doh doh’s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 09, 2024, 03:09:09 PM
Tried out the 6.1 loose truck today and it is entirely too loose for my skating. It feels great, even extremely fun to skate, but I flip my board a lot and it’s too unstable for that.

I would really love them if I was a cruiser type or intended to skate transition with Ventures (I’d just switch back to Ace).

So anyways that experience was extremely short lived, and I’m gonna use my usual doh doh’s.

what doh doh’s do you like?

i’ve had a similar experience: for me, super loose ventures take away from their pop, which is my favorite aspect
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Puddy Smally on February 09, 2024, 03:12:25 PM
I’ve always had great success with doh doh reds. Before Ace was producing hard bushings they were my go to.

*for reference I weigh about 180lbs*
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 09, 2024, 03:31:38 PM
I’ve always had great success with doh doh reds. Before Ace was producing hard bushings they were my go to.

*for reference I weigh about 180lbs*


I am about the same weight and when I tried the Venture bushings, they worked under certain conditions for me.  Nut flush was way too loose, but nut down approximately two threads where I would usually have the 92 duro low head bushings on my Indy trucks (then angle grinding off the top of the kingpin) they worked great.

Not suggesting to angle grind down the kingpin unless you have the truck down to axle or need the clearance, but that is the option I put forward to anyone who either needs them a little looser, or needs clearance.

I guess though people are very unwilling to have the nut down further so kingpin threads are showing, which I totally understand too - kingpins are not fun to catch on anything, compared to the softer metal of the nuts which don't cause grind hangups, etc.


If you did put them back in and try them not by looking at how many threads are showing but doing them up to where it is comfortable for your turn and stability, they work well once they break in nicely - often just a session or two as per any usual stock Venture bushings anyway.


* On the other hand, if you feel like the Doh Doh reds at 95 duro are most comfortable, then I totally understand that too.  Firmer bushings are way better for pretty much everything, but even to trim them down some, they still allow for turn without mushing out too much.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Puddy Smally on February 09, 2024, 03:35:40 PM
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I’ve always had great success with doh doh reds. Before Ace was producing hard bushings they were my go to.

*for reference I weigh about 180lbs*
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I am about the same weight and when I tried the Venture bushings, they worked under certain conditions for me.  Nut flush was way too loose, but nut down approximately two threads where I would usually have the low head bushings on my Indy trucks (then angle grinding off the top of the kingpin) they worked great.

Not suggesting to angle grind down the kingpin unless you have the truck down to axle or need the clearance, but that is the option I put forward to anyone who either needs them a little looser, or needs clearance.

I guess though people are very unwilling to have the nut down further so kingpin threads are showing, which I totally understand too - kingpins are not fun to catch on anything, compared to the softer metal of the nuts which don't cause grind hangups, etc.


If you did put them back in and try them not by looking at how many threads are showing but doing them up to where it is comfortable for your turn and stability, they work well once they break in nicely - often just a session or two as per any usual stock Venture bushings anyway.

This is solid advice. I’m not personally precious or superstitious about threads showing, so I may give this a shake. I mean I’d like to be able to use these for their intended purpose. Maybe I won’t be so hasty to swap just yet.

I’ll report back my findings after I put more time in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 09, 2024, 03:43:52 PM
@Mbrimson88 doing DLX's work for them, thank you.

How much did it shift the wheelbase in? Always wondered what a Venture / Thunder / Indy hybrid would skate like, that isn't the new Royal standard.
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Appreciate the effort. The tiny tiny space between the new and old holes looks pretty sketchy though. Wonder how that will hold in serious ass skating?
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also would be my biggest worry if i decided to try this
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I think if you plugged the old holes with something like JB weld that would provide enough strength for there to be no issue.
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this satisfies my worry, thanks



To go back over questions / comments:

These are drilled with a 6 mm drill bit - was all I had here, so the usual 5 mm drill bit would have more of a gap between the old holes and the new for a 1/4" difference and probably would hold up way better as well, but in general I have never seen truck mounting bolt holes widen out or move with hardware that was done up correctly and stayed tight.

Each truck at 1/4" difference, so to skate both trucks in the new holes adds up to a 1/2" total wheelbase reduction, which is better than the 3/8" each and total of 3/4" wheelbase reduction.


After all the checking and fiddling with things, I really do think that the Venture baseplate would be so good if the holes were drilled more like a Thunder baseplate, so pretty much centered, compared to even this option which is at either end of the baseplate, more so than being more middle ground.

That would open up a lot more options for riding Venture trucks, if they sat in just a little more and make them feel very comfortable on almost any board, especially the steeper ones that I have tried the old six hole baseplates on previously, which didn't really work on any longer wheelbase truck, especially Ventures.

I am guessing there would always be those who would prefer them as they are, left untouched and not moving the mounting holes at all and that is fine, no issues there for those people, so I guess it is a bit of a here or there option - stick with what is currently the normal truck, or try it with middle holes like Thunder and just see if that changes it just enough that it would work well for others who are not fans of Venture trucks.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: soot_yawd on February 10, 2024, 08:15:18 AM
Gear madness is creeping in. I’m wanting to try some 5.2 lows. But I don’t want to size down to an 8.0 deck. (I usually ride 8.25, 8.38, or 8.5). Has anyone paired and liked a 5.2 lo on a 8.25 deck?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on February 10, 2024, 09:57:14 AM
Gear madness is creeping in. I’m wanting to try some 5.2 lows. But I don’t want to size down to an 8.0 deck. (I usually ride 8.25, 8.38, or 8.5). Has anyone paired and liked a 5.2 lo on a 8.25 deck?

Go for it.  Everyone has their own preference, but I sometimes ride the April 8.125 which is actually 8.18 on 5.2 lows.  I think it feels pretty good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 10, 2024, 03:34:14 PM
I don't think Ben D skates an 8" when he's on the lows.....
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 10, 2024, 05:10:40 PM
Appreciate the effort. The tiny tiny space between the new and old holes looks pretty sketchy though. Wonder how that will hold in serious ass skating?

I've noticed that most older Venture plate breaks are ears breaking off.

Other trucks broke across the center of the plates and might cross where the new pin side holes. My personal experience is Ventures axles will usually bend or break before the dlx plates. I like to swap hangers and run plates for 2 or 3 truck upgrade. Never had a problem yet.

I used to break tons of trucks in the 90s and 2000s. Brand New tensors once too. Definitely their fault.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 10, 2024, 05:16:53 PM
I swapped more bushings around today.

I found some newish green thunder bushings. Pulled them for my 5.8. now I'm on the bad ass purps and a renewed loose trucks kit.

Indy super softs are unneeded again at this time because my 5.6 set up has a shaved set of purps in um that are also pretty well manufactured too.

I tried the 139 for a few seconds with the 6.1s top bushings I might have a lucky set. They're better than the Indy stock.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 16, 2024, 11:05:30 AM
Gear madness is creeping in. I’m wanting to try some 5.2 lows. But I don’t want to size down to an 8.0 deck. (I usually ride 8.25, 8.38, or 8.5). Has anyone paired and liked a 5.2 lo on a 8.25 deck?

8.125"? Split the difference? I've ridden 8.0 on 8.25s with no issues, they did have more taper so it wasn't a boaty feel.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Gland Dongzig on February 17, 2024, 03:27:06 PM
For shop day I got some 5.8’s in the loose version and as someone who has had to modify their Venture bushings for 2 decades..I really enjoy the first session on them. Almost a little too loose at nut flush which I never thought possible
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 17, 2024, 04:17:01 PM
For shop day I got some 5.8’s in the loose version and as someone who has had to modify their Venture bushings for 2 decades..I really enjoy the first session on them. Almost a little too loose at nut flush which I never thought possible


you must have the balance of a cat, light as a feather. nut flush loose trucks kit and i’m not sure i could
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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Gland Dongzig on February 17, 2024, 06:35:49 PM
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you must have the balance of a cat, light as a feather. nut flush loose trucks kit and i’m not sure i could
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haha so accurate..for the first time in decades 3 flips have left the building fosho but Im learning to be ok with that
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 17, 2024, 06:37:21 PM
For shop day I got some 5.8’s in the loose version and as someone who has had to modify their Venture bushings for 2 decades..I really enjoy the first session on them. Almost a little too loose at nut flush which I never thought possible

I know!!! Isn't it the best.

No other truck ever will match the New TOTAL Venture vibe. They have it all now. Lows. Good purps. Cut green bushing option. Wooden 3ply risers that match. They got Thunder for people who don't wanna ride the ACTUAL best.

We are living Pals.
AndYo
Everyone who tries my set ups without looking, who's been around since baby bloards says. YO! THATS VENTURE!?! That feels like an Indy 7 or 8.
I'm just like I wouldn't know. I was in the Natas click. I'm looking for that Grind King King Pin that's too long for the hanger fuckin Gullwing feeling.

Speed whobbles happen like never even with the jingles going. My fuckin purples even jingle in my 6.1s. of say at this time I've won. Idk how I did it. Now no one can call my shits broken.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 17, 2024, 06:47:20 PM
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For shop day I got some 5.8’s in the loose version and as someone who has had to modify their Venture bushings for 2 decades..I really enjoy the first session on them. Almost a little too loose at nut flush which I never thought possible
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you must have the balance of a cat, light as a feather. nut flush loose trucks kit and i’m not sure i could
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It feels so good tho. Even when it's like 0⁰ outside. It's the church of skatan giving back. They seen the glory of Julian Matt Rodriguez and Daewon and and now Ishod and Asta. Two of the greatest styles of the day Rides their shit funky.

Maybe my transmission finally hit interstellar and sampled my years of stoked and not stoked. The skate godts are wanting to see people turn really quickly and the switch hard the set like it was Disco inferno night.

Golden age of products. Maybe Indy will put the stupid cross back on to try to get back to where they where before dlx had the stones to pick up the legacy and make it available to US to Venture 2020 and save the planet
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 17, 2024, 06:52:05 PM
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For shop day I got some 5.8’s in the loose version and as someone who has had to modify their Venture bushings for 2 decades..I really enjoy the first session on them. Almost a little too loose at nut flush which I never thought possible
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you must have the balance of a cat, light as a feather. nut flush loose trucks kit and i’m not sure i could
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haha so accurate..for the first time in decades 3 flips have left the building fosho but Im learning to be ok with that

They'll be back. At first I had 2.5 on my back truck flush in the front.
Hopefully the green los are as good as the new Purps. At the end of my GLos I was full crumble with just a little green ring on the front truck.
Going back to Indy super softs also was the worst. I misscut like 3 old spare Purps try to get back but wasn't successful.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Gland Dongzig on February 17, 2024, 08:32:40 PM
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For shop day I got some 5.8’s in the loose version and as someone who has had to modify their Venture bushings for 2 decades..I really enjoy the first session on them. Almost a little too loose at nut flush which I never thought possible
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I know!!! Isn't it the best.

No other truck ever will match the New TOTAL Venture vibe. They have it all now. Lows. Good purps. Cut green bushing option. Wooden 3ply risers that match. They got Thunder for people who don't wanna ride the ACTUAL best.

We are living Pals.
AndYo
Everyone who tries my set ups without looking, who's been around since baby bloards says. YO! THATS VENTURE!?! That feels like an Indy 7 or 8.
I'm just like I wouldn't know. I was in the Natas click. I'm looking for that Grind King King Pin that's too long for the hanger fuckin Gullwing feeling.

Speed whobbles happen like never even with the jingles going. My fuckin purples even jingle in my 6.1s. of say at this time I've won. Idk how I did it. Now no one can call my shits broken.
absolutely Flea! stability and looseness? yezzir  :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on February 18, 2024, 12:23:57 AM
I just wanted to say that I absolutely fucking love my 5.6 V-Lights. For some reason I keep switching to another complete that has Indys on it, but somehow it always ends up lefting me wanting. Coming back to Ventures feels RIGHT every time. They seem to vibrate on some good frequency that has a certain unexplicable mojo. Hard to explain. Maybe you know.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 18, 2024, 02:15:52 AM
I just wanted to say that I absolutely fucking love my 5.6 V-Lights. For some reason I keep switching to another complete that has Indys on it, but somehow it always ends up lefting me wanting. Coming back to Ventures feels RIGHT every time. They seem to vibrate on some good frequency that has a certain unexplicable mojo. Hard to explain. Maybe you know.

That's what it's like to skate Awakened.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on February 18, 2024, 09:25:22 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/pvrFqQ0/IMG-8443.png) (https://ibb.co/pvrFqQ0)

After PJ and Brandon Westgate, Yuto now skates the High Hollows too.. From what I looked at, this Kader model is only available in 5.6 and 5.8, so Yuto would have increased his board size as well.

I have the impression that the low ventures are disappearing for pro skaters, I even wonder if deluxe will not stop their production.. Finally for the pros, I have the impression that deluxe no longer provides them for the lows, maybe ..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 18, 2024, 09:44:09 PM
Maybe he just posted a pic to promote Kader's [new] truck? Team vibes?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 18, 2024, 09:57:30 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/pvrFqQ0/IMG-8443.png) (https://ibb.co/pvrFqQ0)

After PJ and Brandon Westgate, Yuto now skates the High Hollows too.. From what I looked at, this Kader model is only available in 5.6 and 5.8, so Yuto would have increased his board size as well.

I have the impression that the low ventures are disappearing for pro skaters, I even wonder if deluxe will not stop their production.. Finally for the pros, I have the impression that deluxe no longer provides them for the lows, maybe ..




yo! where is this yuto scoop? i’m interested. a lot.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FrenchSkater on February 18, 2024, 11:44:01 PM
Maybe he just posted a pic to promote Kader's [new] truck? Team vibes?

I don't know.. It seems to be his and a photo taken of himself. We will probably have another confirmation a little later haha
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 19, 2024, 08:36:26 AM
I can’t see them ever doing it if they haven’t done it by now….the dust has settled.  I think if you really want them, just skate an 8.125 on 5.2’s….of course no one could convince me of that, and now I find myself in 5.2 highs?

On some inside baseball venture nerd shit…I saw Ben D snagged a whole grip of gold truck hardware for old times sake….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chaosisme on February 20, 2024, 04:07:01 PM
I have a take that people might disagree with but after 2 decades of skating any deck i pick up or randomly get given, I don’t think wheelbase matters really at all, at worst it might feel weird for half an hour and then you get used to it, it’s really not worth stressing over, one of the worst parts of madness

Also, ventures are just perfect as they are, they don’t really need things changing, just skate them as they are out of the box with no adjustments and they’re lovely

As I said, I’m sure people will disagree but save yourself some time and energy when picking a deck, just pick something that fits the width and try not to let the numbers mess with your head

Board Madness is genuinely awful
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 20, 2024, 04:30:47 PM
I have a take that people might disagree with but after 2 decades of skating any deck i pick up or randomly get given, I don’t think wheelbase matters really at all, at worst it might feel weird for half an hour and then you get used to it, it’s really not worth stressing over, one of the worst parts of madness

Also, ventures are just perfect as they are, they don’t really need things changing, just skate them as they are out of the box with no adjustments and they’re lovely

As I said, I’m sure people will disagree but save yourself some time and energy when picking a deck, just pick something that fits the width and try not to let the numbers mess with your head

Board Madness is genuinely awful

which ventures do you favor?
not a lot of folks been riding the hi’s for the last 2 decades
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 20, 2024, 06:24:30 PM
I have a take that people might disagree with but after 2 decades of skating any deck i pick up or randomly get given, I don’t think wheelbase matters really at all, at worst it might feel weird for half an hour and then you get used to it, it’s really not worth stressing over, one of the worst parts of madness

Also, ventures are just perfect as they are, they don’t really need things changing, just skate them as they are out of the box with no adjustments and they’re lovely

As I said, I’m sure people will disagree but save yourself some time and energy when picking a deck, just pick something that fits the width and try not to let the numbers mess with your head

Board Madness is genuinely awful

Since we're throwing numbers around....After 4 decades +

Can I skate any WB? Yes.

Does every WB feel comfortable? No (I could NOT skate transition with a 14" WB and have any sense of stability at speed).

Why be uncomfortable?

For me, any companies stock bushings being 190lbs+ are too soft, including Venture.

Just because whatever the fuck you pick up, get gifted or steal from a hobo works for you (and I'm glad that works for you) doesn't mean it applies to everyone and assuming that it does for others is just naive my dude. If this were true, there would be but one board, wheel and truck size (90a duro bushings seem to be the only common denominator across skating other than 7 ball bearings, and bolt/nut thread size).

I guarantee you if I gifted you a 7.675 with a 13"WB and 5.2 venture lows and 52mm wheels, you'd probably want to adjust something...what's that you say? You wouldn't pick choose those stats on those parts? Huh, guess not everything works...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chaosisme on February 20, 2024, 10:33:53 PM
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I have a take that people might disagree with but after 2 decades of skating any deck i pick up or randomly get given, I don’t think wheelbase matters really at all, at worst it might feel weird for half an hour and then you get used to it, it’s really not worth stressing over, one of the worst parts of madness

Also, ventures are just perfect as they are, they don’t really need things changing, just skate them as they are out of the box with no adjustments and they’re lovely

As I said, I’m sure people will disagree but save yourself some time and energy when picking a deck, just pick something that fits the width and try not to let the numbers mess with your head

Board Madness is genuinely awful
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Since we're throwing numbers around....After 4 decades +

Can I skate any WB? Yes.

Does every WB feel comfortable? No (I could NOT skate transition with a 14" WB and have any sense of stability at speed).

Why be uncomfortable?

For me, any companies stock bushings being 190lbs+ are too soft, including Venture.

Just because whatever the fuck you pick up, get gifted or steal from a hobo works for you (and I'm glad that works for you) doesn't mean it applies to everyone and assuming that it does for others is just naive my dude. If this were true, there would be but one board, wheel and truck size (90a duro bushings seem to be the only common denominator across skating other than 7 ball bearings, and bolt/nut thread size).

I guarantee you if I gifted you a 7.675 with a 13"WB and 5.2 venture lows and 52mm wheels, you'd probably want to adjust something...what's that you say? You wouldn't pick choose those stats on those parts? Huh, guess not everything works...

The last board I skated was 7.75 with lows and 48 mm wheels and I had loads of fun, it was weird but definitely fun and now I’m skating a 8.6 with 5.8 ventures and 52mm wheels, that feels massive but also really fun in its own way!

I wasn’t saying that everyone will feel the same, I’ve just never felt uncomfortable on any kind of WB. I’ve skated 7.75 with 13.75 WB in transition and 9” with 15 WB in transition and both were great, I see a lot of board madness on here and Instagram from people who seem to spend more time picking a board than they do actually just skating

My comment wasn’t meant as an order to people and wasn’t meant to be taken as gospel, I think it might just matter less than SOME people might think and new skaters might read in to the madness.

As for the trucks, i get that modding is fun but sometimes it seems that people change their trucks so much that they may as welll just skate a different truck and it seems some people will buy loads of extra stuff for their ventures before they just actually give them time to break in and become the perfect truck that they are
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chaosisme on February 20, 2024, 10:36:26 PM
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I have a take that people might disagree with but after 2 decades of skating any deck i pick up or randomly get given, I don’t think wheelbase matters really at all, at worst it might feel weird for half an hour and then you get used to it, it’s really not worth stressing over, one of the worst parts of madness

Also, ventures are just perfect as they are, they don’t really need things changing, just skate them as they are out of the box with no adjustments and they’re lovely

As I said, I’m sure people will disagree but save yourself some time and energy when picking a deck, just pick something that fits the width and try not to let the numbers mess with your head

Board Madness is genuinely awful
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which ventures do you favor?
not a lot of folks been riding the hi’s for the last 2 decades

I have skated lows a lot but I think 5.8 lights might be the perfect size and weight, they go with so many board sizes, it’s crazy

Skated them on 14 - 14.5 WB and both felt great
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 23, 2024, 05:52:32 PM
im on 14.5 with forged baseplates
the idea that it shouldnt work is greatly exaggerated

@munchbox
A buddy of mine tends to skate the same things, every time I step on his board(s) I instantly think "huh, this feels super comfy..."and never put much thought into (this was mostly during the time I was forcing/trying to make 14" WB and narrow boards work).

What does he skate?

14.5 WB (either Baker/DW or Primitives, 8.5s, sometimes 8.75") with Thunders (teams or lites, doesn't matter, he just buys what's there based on width of deck he's setting up if he doesn't already have it).

14.5" WB + Thunders (stock)

I recently nabbed a longer than I usually ride 8.5" with a 14.5" WB...it has wheel wells...so thunders it is.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 23, 2024, 06:03:56 PM
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im on 14.5 with forged baseplates
the idea that it shouldnt work is greatly exaggerated
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@munchbox
A buddy of mine tends to skate the same things, every time I step on his board(s) I instantly think "huh, this feels super comfy..."and never put much thought into (this was mostly during the time I was forcing/trying to make 14" WB and narrow boards work).

What does he skate?

14.5 WB (either Baker/DW or Primitives, 8.5s, sometimes 8.75") with Thunders (teams or lites, doesn't matter, he just buys what's there based on width of deck he's setting up if he doesn't already have it).

14.5" WB + Thunders (stock)

I recently nabbed a longer than I usually ride 8.5" with a 14.5" WB...it has wheel wells...so thunders it is.

currently skating a 14.43 wb with thunder 149 teams. love it.


but i skate for venture
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on February 26, 2024, 10:00:52 AM
i feel like i know the answer to this but just want to be sure.  its fine to swap bushings from a set of 5.8s into some 6.1s yeah?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 26, 2024, 10:57:02 AM
i feel like i know the answer to this but just want to be sure.  its fine to swap bushings from a set of 5.8s into some 6.1s yeah?

@shawngreg Yessir
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on February 27, 2024, 05:59:10 PM
Looking for the best tool to access the front two nuts on Ventures.

I put low-profile nuts on when I setup my latest board and with the Indy "Bearing Saver" T-Tool, I cannot get the front two nuts as tight as I'd like.

I could easily revert to normal nuts and this would be a non-issue, but this is my insanity.

I tried my friend's Silver tool on this setup and it didn't help any more than my tool.

Wondering if the Spitfire tool would work better, or I may just try to find a nut-driver with the most minimal chamfering around the nut-opening(?)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 27, 2024, 07:06:36 PM
Spitfire tool FTW, the skinny shaft gets a better grip on the nut that other tools, not perfect but as good as it gets without needing a separate spanner like Diamond hardware gives.

The Spitfire tool has way less flash than other tools but it lasts forever, I've broken countless Silver and Unit tools trying to remove stubborn axle nuts in the past.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Crailslideyoface on February 27, 2024, 07:14:43 PM
Just set up a pair of 6.1s today and am pretty stoked on them. Coming from Ace Classic 55s. If anyone has been on the fence about them, I’d say get them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 27, 2024, 07:49:57 PM
Looking for the best tool to access the front two nuts on Ventures.

I put low-profile nuts on when I setup my latest board and with the Indy "Bearing Saver" T-Tool, I cannot get the front two nuts as tight as I'd like.

I could easily revert to normal nuts and this would be a non-issue, but this is my insanity.

I tried my friend's Silver tool on this setup and it didn't help any more than my tool.

Wondering if the Spitfire tool would work better, or I may just try to find a nut-driver with the most minimal chamfering around the nut-opening(?)

Did yall see the new Reverse Bridge bolts? The bridge your nuts together like the length ways so your nuts will never loosen? They was on the Dan Channel while back i think.

Orchard has a tool that looks like it would be good for venture. I think its called RUSH. Like 13 bucks i think. I might try the Web Tool next
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 27, 2024, 07:53:28 PM
Just set up a pair of 6.1s today and am pretty stoked on them. Coming from Ace Classic 55s. If anyone has been on the fence about them, I’d say get them.

i like my 6.1s, and i fondly reminisce about my classic 55s.
funny in that i generally don’t like big setups.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on February 27, 2024, 08:12:19 PM
I just use a drill to do my trucks, I got a long skinny extension and a bit for the nuts. then I use an allen key to hold in place. makes setting up a board take like 2 seconds. I have no problem w/ the front bolts.

skate tool and ventures brings me back to 2007 though, it's possible w/ the unit tool in a pinch but sometimes you'll have to tighten/loosen from the other side and risk twisting that grip up, gotta angle it. that's where indy and ace win, that easy access w/ any skate tool.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on February 27, 2024, 09:08:18 PM
I use a silver tool on silverados and it works, you just have to give it a bit more space by moving the hanger…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 27, 2024, 09:14:54 PM
I use a silver tool on silverados and it works, you just have to give it a bit more space by moving the hanger…

Silver user here (file fell off and the allen/phillips bit won't stay in, but man that thing is sooooo ancient; skips ratcheting now and again); it works well enough, get's stuck sometimes tho. The Ace and spit tools I have also work fine (tho the spit tool has a file on the barrel and shreds my hangers =D

Anything is better than tightening via bolt over the nut.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on February 27, 2024, 11:10:21 PM
ace af1 tool fits perfectly, no need to move the hanger or anything. it's probably the best skate tool all around.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 28, 2024, 12:11:08 PM
ace af1 tool fits perfectly, no need to move the hanger or anything. it's probably the best skate tool all around.

Big fan of the Ace AF1 tool, hard to beat the feature count.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: boofactory on March 02, 2024, 01:49:49 PM
Anyone skate ventures on the dlx twin tail with the 14.44 wheelbase? Thoughts on how it feels?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Rick Trapasso on March 02, 2024, 02:35:02 PM
Anyone skate ventures on the dlx twin tail with the 14.44 wheelbase? Thoughts on how it feels?

Sorry to split hairs but it's a 14.4 wb.

That's what Bobby rides, and Ishod rides the same board on thunders. Both of which push your wb out farther than other trucks.

Seems to work pretty well for them.

I've ridden that board with thunders (team baseplate 52mm height) and enjoyed it, haven't tried ventures on it though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manuduncan on March 02, 2024, 02:49:41 PM
i know the question's been asked already but in the year of our lord 2024 what bushings do you guys put in when the stock ones blow out? i love the stock purple ones but obviously can't find where to buy replacement ones

i have some ace hards lying around, are those comparable at all? just from googling, thunder bushings seem the closest in terms of appearance but have no idea about performance
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: goodatmeth on March 02, 2024, 02:57:21 PM
i know the question's been asked already but in the year of our lord 2024 what bushings do you guys put in when the stock ones blow out? i love the stock purple ones but obviously can't find where to buy replacement ones

i have some ace hards lying around, are those comparable at all? just from googling, thunder bushings seem the closest in terms of appearance but have no idea about performance
I recently tried ace low bushings in venture highs and the turn was almost decent
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: hiljentaa on March 02, 2024, 03:00:44 PM
i know the question's been asked already but in the year of our lord 2024 what bushings do you guys put in when the stock ones blow out? i love the stock purple ones but obviously can't find where to buy replacement ones

i have some ace hards lying around, are those comparable at all? just from googling, thunder bushings seem the closest in terms of appearance but have no idea about performance

I only ride the stock bushings, but Indy and Deluxe Bait and Tackle (if you can find em) fit perfectly.

The secret to never blowing out the stock bushings is using the smaller washers that come with Indy aftermarket bushings. Stock washers will dig in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 02, 2024, 03:48:51 PM
i know the question's been asked already but in the year of our lord 2024 what bushings do you guys put in when the stock ones blow out? i love the stock purple ones but obviously can't find where to buy replacement ones

i have some ace hards lying around, are those comparable at all? just from googling, thunder bushings seem the closest in terms of appearance but have no idea about performance


Thunder bushings do work, but the slightly taller bottom bushing as well as the conical shape, compared to the cylinder shape of stock is going to change the feel and turn of the trucks, so maybe a little more turn and a little quicker turn, if that makes sense?

All up they still work well and no issues to do that, even though for some people, it might look weird or they would not put those bushings in Ventures.

Closest to the feel of the stock bushings from new is the Indy orange 90 duro aftermarket bushings, but even the Indy blue 92 duro bushings work well in there and often feel a little bit firmer, which is not a bad thing.  Again, some people look at those and don't want to put orange bushings in Ventures, but that is up to the individual.


Lastly, the Venture green bushings that come with the low tops, marketed as the loose truck bushing kit will actually work just as well, only you need to tighten the kingpin nut down the extra two or so threads to have it on the same as stock bushings with the kingpin nut flush.  This can also be a deal breaker for some people, who just want the kingpin nut flush, but they still work just as well when they are tightened down to the same feeling, without thinking how far down the nut is.  I have even seen people add a few flat washers on between the normal truck washer and the kingpin, but again, personal opinion is everything here.


* The Deluxe Bait and Tackle bushing tubes that used to be everywhere now seem like they are completely out at most places, but if you are lucky enough to find any, just use them, as hiljentaa said.


Edit:

** The Supercush, or even Thunder Supercush as they come up on some listings are the Deluxe Bait and Tackle bushings, so the same product, all of which seem to be out of stock almost everywhere and very hard to get hold of.  It has been said that DLX is working on some new Venture styled bushings, but as yet they have not been released.


(https://www.blueandgoldak.com/cdn/shop/products/superrcush_480x480.png?v=1632270604)


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 02, 2024, 09:18:34 PM
if you want the stock feeling go with supercush 90a
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Luismps on March 05, 2024, 11:49:56 AM
Today I tested for the first time the 5'6 forged coming from the 148 also forged.
Some adaptation in the kickflips, in everything else I loved the trucks!
However, in a session lasting just 2 hours, and without tightening the Kingpin (stock tightening), the washer started to cut the bushing. Can I put a washer from other trucks right? Will the thickness be the same? I wanted these bushings to last because I already noticed from the comments that it is impossible to find purple stock bushing...
Any other solution?
Tks 🙏
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fakie nollie on March 05, 2024, 12:27:16 PM
Might have already been answered but anyone know where to get 6.1 hollows? Saw them on their spring catalog. Links very much appreciated
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 05, 2024, 12:51:47 PM
Today I tested for the first time the 5'6 forged coming from the 148 also forged.
Some adaptation in the kickflips, in everything else I loved the trucks!
However, in a session lasting just 2 hours, and without tightening the Kingpin (stock tightening), the washer started to cut the bushing. Can I put a washer from other trucks right? Will the thickness be the same? I wanted these bushings to last because I already noticed from the comments that it is impossible to find purple stock bushing...
Any other solution?
Tks 🙏
bones flat washer is tried and thoroughly tested
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 05, 2024, 04:06:33 PM
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Anyone skate ventures on the dlx twin tail with the 14.44 wheelbase? Thoughts on how it feels?
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Sorry to split hairs but it's a 14.4 wb.

That's what Bobby rides, and Ishod rides the same board on thunders. Both of which push your wb out farther than other trucks.

Seems to work pretty well for them.

I've ridden that board with thunders (team baseplate 52mm height) and enjoyed it, haven't tried ventures on it though.

I feel it works good.

I could be biased tho. I find myself thanking the universe for Venture several times a day. I marvel at how at peace they make me.
Too many miserable bastards on this earth will never know my joy. Could be the solution to wars and boredom?

Nearly every new skater I meet is getting the gospel of dlxsf. I can't help myself.

My heart soars and I want others to know
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 05, 2024, 04:16:26 PM
Might have already been answered but anyone know where to get 6.1 hollows? Saw them on their spring catalog. Links very much appreciated


Were you after the forged baseplate version or just the cast hollow version?

Also, had I seen you were in EU somewhere?


https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-v-hollow-lights-all-polished-high-6-1-truck-silver-8-75_p144617


If not, then I know there were three regular options in 6.1 - the two types more common, the standard all cast solid kingpin and axle and the V hollow versions, which is the forged baseplate, hollow kingpin and axle.  Then the other one, V light, which is regular hanger on forged baseplate.

There is also the Kader 6.1 cast baseplate, hollow kingpin, hollow axle, if I recall, a bit scarce and very pricey.

https://dlxskateshop.com/products/venture-v-cast-hollow-kader-bloodshots-trucks?_pos=4&_sid=4df80e10c&_ss=r


* Shop links outside of AU are actually harder and harder to come up now, so I guess they narrow the shopping down to the country of origin, more than I would have liked.



https://venturetrucks.net/




Found one here for USA anyway:


https://nocomplyatx.com/products/venture-v-hollow-all-polished-high-skateboarding-trucks

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 05, 2024, 06:58:42 PM
IMO ventures/thunders on those twins is ok but the wheelbase feels long and the nose feels short so it angers me…..I’d rather have a bit more nose/tail less wheelbase….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 05, 2024, 09:55:32 PM
IMO ventures/thunders on those twins is ok but the wheelbase feels long and the nose feels short so it angers me…..I’d rather have a bit more nose/tail less wheelbase….

ride metal bloards with the 14" or less. Even my Gall Habi reissue was straitht up fire. mad fingers of flat. More than needed tho not too much.

With Aces i'd probably get stuck in perpetual manual. IDK if my family could handle it. Could be the final straw. Fucking Linus and his SKATEBOARD  ::) ::) ::) ::) .
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Luismps on March 06, 2024, 01:04:48 PM
I'm thinking of buying myself a baker or deathwish, my favorite brands and it's been a very long time since I rode them with Ventures.. Does it work with these trucks ? Wheelbase is 14.25, and many say Venture only works with a 14 wheelbase..

Come to think of it, when I was skating Venture and Baker a long time ago, I wasn't thinking about all those
 wheelbase settings or whatever.. fucking madness !  :-\

(And we see Bryan O'dwyer or John dilo during a period skating venture with Deathwish perfectly.. maybe it's all in the head..)


On the baker OG 8,25 with 5,6 forged. Coming from Thunder 148 forged.
Looooviingggggg
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Luismps on March 09, 2024, 01:08:51 AM
For EU guys, Kader Pro hollows at 28,99 on TITUS.

https://www.titus-shop.com/products/venture-truck-5-6-high-pro-v-cast-kader-raw-0123547
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bandee on March 09, 2024, 03:53:30 PM
 (https://i.ibb.co/0mDBCRx/IMG-3197.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0mDBCRx)

funny old venture ad from the august 1986 issue of thrasher

i wish i could win a day of gonz :-\
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fakie nollie on March 09, 2024, 05:11:34 PM
IMO ventures/thunders on those twins is ok but the wheelbase feels long and the nose feels short so it angers me…..I’d rather have a bit more nose/tail less wheelbase….
I’m on Girl’s G096 8.5 twin tail shape with 14” WB. I recently switched from Venture 5.8’s to 151 (8.75) Thunder Hollows, which apparently have the same “wheelbase” as Ventures. It feels really good. Probably puts it somewhere between 14 and 14.25” wheelbase with how the hanger is offset.


@Mbrimson88 appreciate the links. Over the last five years I’ve been in Stockholm, Barcelona and Berlin periodically but never skated in any. Any chance you’d know me from the corpo world?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 09, 2024, 05:27:19 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/0mDBCRx/IMG-3197.jpg) (https://ibb.co/0mDBCRx)

funny old venture ad from the august 1986 issue of thrasher

i wish i could win a day of gonz :-\

I could probably get you a surprise half hour if I stayed at the park long enough and you was within driving distance. No charge for the first one pal  ;D

Be kinda funny to try and get paid like that. You know like selling an Exgf phone number when you're in county.

I'd probably have to tell Mark that I'd give him 50% of me plunder to be able to live with myself. Just like my exgfs.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 10, 2024, 05:47:35 PM

@Mbrimson88 appreciate the links. Over the last five years I’ve been in Stockholm, Barcelona and Berlin periodically but never skated in any. Any chance you’d know me from the corpo world?


I am Brisbane, Ausralia based, but have been online for a long time, more so anything to do with skateboarding, but then skateboarding is a small world anyway.

Guessing if you are USA / Europe based, we probably have not crossed paths, but who knows?!?

:)


Did you get Thunders, or still looking for Ventures? 

Those 6.1 versions do seem harder to find than some others.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on March 13, 2024, 12:50:19 AM
Man, why do I keep doing this to myself? Just recently got a new 8.25 / 14.2 deck and decided, just for the eff of it, to put Indy 144s on it, after being on Ventures for a good while and really liking their mojo and pop.

Was baffled at the extent of how my ollie went to total shit. Actually got me worried. Can I skate anymore? What the fuck is going on? Do I suck? Yes, but this much? Shit.

Yesterday, switched back to Venture 5.6 V-Hollows on the same deck.

My ollie was back instantly.

Amazing. A good reminder to stay awake.

Rationally thinking, though, it seems like if a board's wb is under 14.38, I definitely need Ventures. With a 14.38 wb and up, I seem to still be able to pop decently with Indys.

Madness?

Yes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on March 13, 2024, 07:43:54 AM
What are the differences between the old Ventures and New? Mine are from probably around 2010 and I am really enjoying them right now. They are lasting forever. I have them very loose, 8" setup.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 13, 2024, 09:42:35 AM
What are the differences between the old Ventures and New? Mine are from probably around 2010 and I am really enjoying them right now. They are lasting forever. I have them very loose, 8" setup.




There's an example of the change here in the thread.

You might have old highs?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 13, 2024, 09:45:35 AM
Might be on the Ben Degros channel actually.

The changes are mostly to the yoke and the piv area.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 13, 2024, 10:10:08 AM
I'd like to add that the biggest change as of recently is the bushings.

Dlx Purps might be second to none now. I need another set to be 100.

I'm riding a loose trucks conversion kit but the top bushings from a monster colourway thunder

My 6.1s got the bright glowing with fine flake Purps. They fuckin king shit in bushing land.

Loose as the thunder top just less wiggles. This winter was the first winter I didn't have to customize my trucks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on March 13, 2024, 03:50:30 PM
so you are saying they are even bettter now?
i have red bushings in mine :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on March 13, 2024, 04:30:19 PM
if venture sold the purple bushings they'd be the perfect trucks.

indy does it, ace does it. idk why dlx has to be stingy about the good bushings (purps, stock blue thunder bushings).

if you're reading this deluxe: blue stock thunder bushings (fuck the white and orange ones), purple stock venture bushings. I will buy a ton of them because I blow them out alot.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 13, 2024, 10:05:09 PM
so you are saying they are even bettter now?
i have red bushings in mine :)

Definitely. Gotta look for the right colour. Darkish is no good. You want transparent but cloudy. It literally looks like they're glowing.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 14, 2024, 04:45:10 AM
if venture sold the purple bushings they'd be the perfect trucks.

indy does it, ace does it. idk why dlx has to be stingy about the good bushings (purps, stock blue thunder bushings).

if you're reading this deluxe: blue stock thunder bushings (fuck the white and orange ones), purple stock venture bushings. I will buy a ton of them because I blow them out alot.


I think people had said they were in the process of doing something, but exactly what and for how long they are doing things, I don't know.

Seemed easy enough to get the green low tops / loose truck kit out, so it shouldn't be that hard to release the stock purple bushings on their own either in the same sort of packaging, but who knows.

I have a dozen or more sets of stock Venture purple bushings here from people swapping them straight out for other harder bushings, but it is not worth sending any overseas.  I am in Australia.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Dirty_Dan90 on March 14, 2024, 09:12:45 AM
Just recently went from skating Ace 159s to Venture 5.7 and they feel great, love the kingpin clearance and grinds really well on just about any surface. The clear green bushings were kinda weird at first, didnt adjust tightness at all and at first they were super loose, after about 2 sessions they tightened up on their own and its not too cold out in VA right now, so i actually loosened them up some more and now i get why everyones so crazy about loose ventures. Dont really turn as good as Aces, Thunders, Indys but the grind alone is worth the change. Also havent skated a pair of Ventures since 2007 and cant really remember how they were back then.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Enrico Pallazzo on March 14, 2024, 09:20:56 AM
Just recently went from skating Ace 159s to Venture 5.7

This guy's ordering his truck sizes off the secret menu.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 14, 2024, 10:03:17 AM
Just recently went from skating Ace 159s to Venture 5.7 and they feel great, love the kingpin clearance and grinds really well on just about any surface. The clear green bushings were kinda weird at first, didnt adjust tightness at all and at first they were super loose, after about 2 sessions they tightened up on their own and its not too cold out in VA right now, so i actually loosened them up some more and now i get why everyones so crazy about loose ventures. Dont really turn as good as Aces, Thunders, Indys but the grind alone is worth the change. Also havent skated a pair of Ventures since 2007 and cant really remember how they were back then.

https://youtu.be/xZzEzDkeHzI?si=EEBJ7xpMHkF-6jVN

2007. WORST year of my life. Glad we survived
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on March 15, 2024, 03:36:45 AM
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Just recently went from skating Ace 159s to Venture 5.7
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This guy's ordering his truck sizes off the secret menu.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on March 15, 2024, 03:58:58 PM
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Just recently went from skating Ace 159s to Venture 5.7
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This guy's ordering his truck sizes off the secret menu.
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 ;D ;D ;D

before my auntie died, there was a few things she would remember to tell me before I would leave the house:The first was to always make sure I had sex on my mind; this would let me be smooth and cunning. The second was to always have money in my pocket to spend on a woman, the third was to always have my penis outside of my underwear but inside my pants.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 15, 2024, 04:11:42 PM
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Just recently went from skating Ace 159s to Venture 5.7
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This guy's ordering his truck sizes off the secret menu.
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 ;D ;D ;D
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before my auntie died, there was a few things she would remember to tell me before I would leave the house:The first was to always make sure I had sex on my mind; this would let me be smooth and cunning. The second was to always have money in my pocket to spend on a woman, the third was to always have my penis outside of my underwear but inside my pants.
the first bit is gold
no better way to start my friday
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on March 15, 2024, 04:23:59 PM
venture x star team east village
dont know the sizes or models
too cool to include it in the post i guess
(https://i.ibb.co/0CYmqWR/IMG-2836.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3pS4189)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 15, 2024, 06:17:03 PM
venture x star team east village
dont know the sizes or models
too cool to include it in the post i guess
(https://i.ibb.co/0CYmqWR/IMG-2836.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3pS4189)

Those are dope. Very classy graphic.

Listen to this sound!!! Tha k you Moody and Jenkem and Venture.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4gPQ18uui0/?igsh=MWp6Nzl0NDR2bDZzag==

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Pasta Monster on March 16, 2024, 04:55:55 AM
The Venture x Star Team are polished team editions that are available in 5.6 and 5.8

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Star Team, founded by Venture rider Kyota Umeki. Star Team has deep roots in the east village and is known for pumping out unique soft goods and accessories and always supporting the New York skate scene. Polished hanger, polished baseplate. Standard Kingpin. Standard Axle. Clear 90A Durometer Bushings.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 16, 2024, 06:14:22 PM
putting an indy hollow baseplate bottom to bottom with a venture cast plate….almost looks like where the holes would be for the koston drill out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 16, 2024, 06:53:21 PM
putting an indy hollow baseplate bottom to bottom with a venture cast plate….almost looks like where the holes would be for the koston drill out.

Exactly what I suspected. Just put um back to back and drill um. I might try. Next board I got over 14.24

I get nervous messing with what I think is perfection butbi have mad extra plates as I usually only swap hangers every 6 months or so. .

I'm on a sub 14" wb shape with 5.8s and i just got back from having the session of the year so far.

2024 is going to be all gains again. My nollie powers are making me the happiest on this day. This is the year of nollies I think.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 16, 2024, 07:54:54 PM
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putting an indy hollow baseplate bottom to bottom with a venture cast plate….almost looks like where the holes would be for the koston drill out.
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Exactly what I suspected. Just put um back to back and drill um. I might try. Next board I got over 14.24

I get nervous messing with what I think is perfection butbi have mad extra plates as I usually only swap hangers every 6 months or so. .

I'm on a sub 14" wb shape with 5.8s and i just got back from having the session of the year so far.

2024 is going to be all gains again. My nollie powers are making me the happiest on this day. This is the year of nollies I think.


session of the year!!!! i love it. not how my sessions went today, but i loved being outside.
a good nollie….that is actually my go to. new setup? nollie first. something about that trick feels safe. my flatground ollie’s, once my sharpest arrow, now are pretty flappy, out of sorts.
i’ve been messing around with too many different setups, and boards of any shape and size, so i really have very little familiarity. nollie was buggin today.

on topic: i’ve been skating an 8.38 generic generator board, with 6.1s, and 55 dragons. i mean i’ve been skating a lot of shit, too many old parts and pieces. but i’ve kept coming back to this setup.
swapped in 5.6s, with the forged baseplate. didn’t want to do this, because i….am sick of myself tinkering with shit. but while the 6.1s on hills and doing regular ollie’s are mint, those same 6.1s vs my baby-legged treflip attempts have been….shit.
setup felt about the same, less poppy, easier rotation. landed some really really reeeeeeally slow, bad, not decent treflips.
360 flips used to be easier than kickflips. now they most definitely are not.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 17, 2024, 04:56:34 PM
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putting an indy hollow baseplate bottom to bottom with a venture cast plate….almost looks like where the holes would be for the koston drill out.
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Exactly what I suspected. Just put um back to back and drill um. I might try. Next board I got over 14.24

I get nervous messing with what I think is perfection butbi have mad extra plates as I usually only swap hangers every 6 months or so. .

I'm on a sub 14" wb shape with 5.8s and i just got back from having the session of the year so far.

2024 is going to be all gains again. My nollie powers are making me the happiest on this day. This is the year of nollies I think.
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session of the year!!!! i love it. not how my sessions went today, but i loved being outside.
a good nollie….that is actually my go to. new setup? nollie first. something about that trick feels safe. my flatground ollie’s, once my sharpest arrow, now are pretty flappy, out of sorts.
i’ve been messing around with too many different setups, and boards of any shape and size, so i really have very little familiarity. nollie was buggin today.

on topic: i’ve been skating an 8.38 generic generator board, with 6.1s, and 55 dragons. i mean i’ve been skating a lot of shit, too many old parts and pieces. but i’ve kept coming back to this setup.
swapped in 5.6s, with the forged baseplate. didn’t want to do this, because i….am sick of myself tinkering with shit. but while the 6.1s on hills and doing regular ollie’s are mint, those same 6.1s vs my baby-legged treflip attempts have been….shit.
setup felt about the same, less poppy, easier rotation. landed some really really reeeeeeally slow, bad, not decent treflips.
360 flips used to be easier than kickflips. now they most definitely are not.

I full agree next purchase of trucks I'm just getting 5.8s. Those are fine up to low 9s.

I'm so in love with my current set up. As the weather gets warmer the sessions keep getting better
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: theloniousmonk on March 17, 2024, 07:01:32 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/JGLgCWLK/IMG-6918.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JGLgCWLK)



(https://i.postimg.cc/SYWvYgWW/IMG-6922.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SYWvYgWW)


I got inspired by @Mbrimson88 and double drilled a venture baseplate.

I only did one as I like long tails (6.8 or so) and now I can make a 6.5 tail longer.

These are forged plates, and the new holes are offset 3/8”.

I connected a 6 hole baseplate to a the venture plate using mounting hardware. The 6 hole plate acted like a jig for me to position the drill.

 I’ve redrilled decks like this before, but never trucks, and im hyped because up next I’ll skate the 8” flight deck that I got gifted last month and it can have a longer tail.

Thanks for the hype @Mbrimson88 and for recommending a 5mm drillbit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on March 17, 2024, 07:33:28 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/JGLgCWLK/IMG-6918.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JGLgCWLK)



(https://i.postimg.cc/SYWvYgWW/IMG-6922.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SYWvYgWW)


I got inspired by @Mbrimson88 and double drilled a venture baseplate.

I only did one as I like long tails (6.8 or so) and now I can make a 6.5 tail longer.

These are forged plates, and the new holes are offset 3/8”.

I connected a 6 hole baseplate to a the venture plate using mounting hardware. The 6 hole plate acted like a jig for me to position the drill.

 I’ve redrilled decks like this before, but never trucks, and im hyped because up next I’ll skate the 8” flight deck that I got gifted last month and it can have a longer tail.

Thanks for the hype @Mbrimson88 and for recommending a 5mm drillbit.

looking forward to seeing how you like them. ive been wondering how it would be setting up a different back truck to push the WB in and give the tail a little more length/mellow feeling, but this would probably be a better solution since weight/height/geo will be consistent
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FatGuy92 on March 17, 2024, 07:36:38 PM
also, Westgate put out some park clips on IG and man now i really wanna buy another set of 5.2 hollows. that last back 50 was buck

https://www.instagram.com/p/C4gVlhjOecm/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mooseknuckle666 on March 17, 2024, 08:56:40 PM
Ventures on anything over a 14 inch wheelbase?
I wanna try different boards with 8.25 wheelbases but it just seems like ima hate it
Anyone skate this or has skated before ?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 17, 2024, 09:16:56 PM
I'd go as far as saying most people who ride Ventures ride over a 14" wheelbase...it's just how much does it bother them...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on March 18, 2024, 12:50:43 AM
Ventures on anything over a 14 inch wheelbase?
I wanna try different boards with 8.25 wheelbases but it just seems like ima hate it
Anyone skate this or has skated before ?

I love my 5.6 V-Lights (forged baseplate) on a 14.25 wb deck. My pop is way better compared to the same deck with Indys. Pretty sure I'd enjoy Ventures on a 14.38 wb as well.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 18, 2024, 02:28:52 AM
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I got inspired by @Mbrimson88 and double drilled a venture baseplate.

I only did one as I like long tails (6.8 or so) and now I can make a 6.5 tail longer.

These are forged plates, and the new holes are offset 3/8”.

I connected a 6 hole baseplate to a the venture plate using mounting hardware. The 6 hole plate acted like a jig for me to position the drill.

 I’ve redrilled decks like this before, but never trucks, and im hyped because up next I’ll skate the 8” flight deck that I got gifted last month and it can have a longer tail.

Thanks for the hype @Mbrimson88 and for recommending a 5mm drillbit.
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looking forward to seeing how you like them. ive been wondering how it would be setting up a different back truck to push the WB in and give the tail a little more length/mellow feeling, but this would probably be a better solution since weight/height/geo will be consistent


Ha yeah, so good!!!

Drilling them out means it makes it so much easier to move them as required, but I think quite a few people might only move the back truck up, more so than both on many boards, because it just brings it in too far, but having a little longer tail and a more in between wheelbase would really work well with those Ventures on any steeper boards.  At least it did on a few I tried anyway.

Even on my usual DLX 8.38 boards, the nose is really good as is, so moving the tail up means I have more of a medium wheelbase and a decent tail.

I am about to try it on the new DLX 8.86 Jimmy Wilkins board with the 15 wb, just the tail up to bring it back to something very similar to the 8.75 board, on Venture 6.1 trucks, so I will see how that goes, without having to redrill the board, otherwise maybe drilling up the tail 3/8" and trying other trucks like Indy or Thunder on it might also work well.




Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on March 18, 2024, 04:03:31 AM
Ventures on anything over a 14 inch wheelbase?
I wanna try different boards with 8.25 wheelbases but it just seems like ima hate it
Anyone skate this or has skated before ?

had em on 14.25, 14.38, 14.5, it all works fine. i usually do 14.25, i hate anything shorter
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Luismps on March 18, 2024, 04:34:39 AM
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Ventures on anything over a 14 inch wheelbase?
I wanna try different boards with 8.25 wheelbases but it just seems like ima hate it
Anyone skate this or has skated before ?
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had em on 14.25, 14.38, 14.5, it all works fine. i usually do 14.25, i hate anything shorter

Agree!
Im on a mellow tail (6.5) baker 8.25, and is very light and easy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Puddy Smally on March 18, 2024, 06:34:01 AM
Just had the machinist homie drill me two sets of baseplates at 1/4”. For a set of 5.8 and 6.1 (respectively).

I’m yet to try them out as I’ve been riding smaller setups the last couple sessions.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 18, 2024, 11:18:17 AM
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Ventures on anything over a 14 inch wheelbase?
I wanna try different boards with 8.25 wheelbases but it just seems like ima hate it
Anyone skate this or has skated before ?
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had em on 14.25, 14.38, 14.5, it all works fine. i usually do 14.25, i hate anything shorter

I've done 14, 14.25, 14.38 and no problems, provided the deck is longer than 31.5, ideal length is 32 but not longer than 32.25
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on March 18, 2024, 11:19:20 AM
Ishod still skating ventures…
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 18, 2024, 12:33:30 PM
Ishod still skating ventures…


are his drilled funky?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 18, 2024, 03:19:14 PM
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Ishod still skating ventures…
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are his drilled funky?


They were from the clips people had posted previously, not sure if it was 1/4" or 3/8" or what, but definitely two sets of holes in those baseplates on the close up view.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: left-nut on March 18, 2024, 05:41:41 PM
About to fall back down the rabbit hole again and try the v-hollow 5.8s I’ve been sitting on. What are y’all’s favorite 8.5 decks to ride on ventures? With thunders I like medium/mellow concave, and at least 32” length with 14.25 wheelbase, but I’m not sure where to start with ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on March 18, 2024, 06:11:39 PM
About to fall back down the rabbit hole again and try the v-hollow 5.8s I’ve been sitting on. What are y’all’s favorite 8.5 decks to ride on ventures? With thunders I like medium/mellow concave, and at least 32” length with 14.25 wheelbase, but I’m not sure where to start with ventures.


i have not done a good job of finding decks i really like. i’ve been focused on trying most things.
i’m currently skating an 8.38 that has a 14.5 wb, with forged 5.6s. it works well enough.
i don’t ascribe to the effective wb talk, for me, because it hasn’t borne positive results, for me. i love it for others.
i’m not adding anything useful here, hopefully some folks with some strong opinions chime in
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 18, 2024, 10:09:24 PM
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Ventures on anything over a 14 inch wheelbase?
I wanna try different boards with 8.25 wheelbases but it just seems like ima hate it
Anyone skate this or has skated before ?
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I love my 5.6 V-Lights (forged baseplate) on a 14.25 wb deck. My pop is way better compared to the same deck with Indys. Pretty sure I'd enjoy Ventures on a 14.38 wb as well.

I like ventures on everything. Ace classic too. Those are my two favorite trucks though they're pretty opposite.
I think the kingpin angle is the same tho and why they get equally dumpy with their top bushings chopped.

Thunders don't agree with a smaller top. Washers work tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Barack Hussein on March 19, 2024, 08:51:54 AM
No one rides Ventures where I'm from. I've never stepped foot on them on anyone elses board or anything. Should I get some 6.1s? I've only ever been on Indy and Ace - kinda just lookin to try something new. Always been a loose trucks transition guy who sucks at popping tricks other than ollies up a curb or something.
 
I'm kinda intrigued by the fact that they push out the wheelbase and apparently have magic pop properties. Stability too. Thinking they might be my ticket to try out some shorter wheelbases that would typically be off limits for me due to being tall. Get my frieekin pop on. Bomb some hills worry/wobble free?!

I'm kinda torn between trying to roll stock purples with a flat washer, or just cop the new loose ventures that come with the shorter green bushings. Anyone have insights on those options? I feel like if I'm trying some Ventures, I want em to feel like Ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Jackismydogsname on March 19, 2024, 09:32:40 AM
Try the flat washer with stock with the nut flush and ride it for a week. As the bushings conform around the hanger inside they become more stable and comfortable.
If you're under 150lbs order the loose kit from the get go.
I am an Indy/Ace with hard bushings person but Ventures really do help with popping in the split second before take off and after landing. 


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on March 19, 2024, 10:28:57 AM
I'm 145 lbs and have never considered the loose kit as an option. I want my Ventures as snappy, poppy and stable as possible. And I use the stock washer.

Best trucks ever in my opinion. Every truck's a compromise of sorts, and for me Venture is the best compromise. They shine especially on street as everyone knows, but I can ride transition on them pretty much as good as on any other truck. Sure, they don't grind like Indys, but if you go fast and hard enough you won't be lacking. I've never once thought that they don't turn well enough. Just go fucking fast and hard. They'll turn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on March 19, 2024, 11:50:44 AM
I'm 145 lbs and have never considered the loose kit as an option. I want my Ventures as snappy, poppy and stable as possible. And I use the stock washer.

Best trucks ever in my opinion. Every truck's a compromise of sorts, and for me Venture is the best compromise. They shine especially on street as everyone knows, but I can ride transition on them pretty much as good as on any other truck. Sure, they don't grind like Indys, but if you go fast and hard enough you won't be lacking. I've never once thought that they don't turn well enough. Just go fucking fast and hard. They'll turn.

once its broken in they all seem to grind the same to me...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 19, 2024, 01:34:56 PM
I'm 130 lbs and I did not like the loose trucks conversion set at all for doing actual tricks (riding around was fun tho)

If there's anyone in the HTX area that wants the shorter top bushings for free, hmu
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 19, 2024, 02:54:30 PM
I'm 130 lbs and I did not like the loose trucks conversion set at all for doing actual tricks (riding around was fun tho)

If there's anyone in the HTX area that wants the shorter top bushings for free, hmu


You didn't tighten them down to where they are comfortable to skate?

We had to do this as they were definitely too loose when having the nut on flush, some others even adding an extra flat washer or two in between the normal top washer and nut and it worked perfectly and didn't have threads showing.

Just a thought anyway.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on March 19, 2024, 03:00:40 PM
I found that even cranking the nut down the loose truck bushings stayed the same. Very loose.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 19, 2024, 03:37:36 PM
I found that even cranking the nut down the loose truck bushings stayed the same. Very loose.


I feel like any new bushings need to break in and will firm up though.

First sessions on any trucks are often all kinds of weird, so it is the same with new bushings.


Of all the stock sets of Venture bushings I have from people swapping theirs out before they even have one skate, when they put a set of these unused stock bushings in, people have often said they don't feel like their old ones they took out of their trucks, but I do wonder how often people change trucks and that can have something to do with it.

Not having a go at all - I definitely thought the low green ones were way too loose to start with, but after having them in a board for more than a few sessions I ended up with the nut back a fair bit, compared to when brand new.  They firmed up a lot, not just cause it was a bit colder either, even though that can have something to do with it.


*  Just waiting on a regular head Venture bushing kit now, to keep people happy.



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 19, 2024, 07:57:23 PM
No one rides Ventures where I'm from. I've never stepped foot on them on anyone elses board or anything. Should I get some 6.1s? I've only ever been on Indy and Ace - kinda just lookin to try something new. Always been a loose trucks transition guy who sucks at popping tricks other than ollies up a curb or something.
 
I'm kinda intrigued by the fact that they push out the wheelbase and apparently have magic pop properties. Stability too. Thinking they might be my ticket to try out some shorter wheelbases that would typically be off limits for me due to being tall. Get my frieekin pop on. Bomb some hills worry/wobble free?!

I'm kinda torn between trying to roll stock purples with a flat washer, or just cop the new loose ventures that come with the shorter green bushings. Anyone have insights on those options? I feel like if I'm trying some Ventures, I want em to feel like Ventures

Loose trucks conversion wobble. Like a bunch. But it's like limited but it can definitely pitch you.

Just try to get the purple bushings that are almost see through and kinda sparkling. Use the flat washers. My 61s are pretty loose. 5.8 down I'd suggest the loose trucks style.

You can always throw a Thunder top on later or order the kit. You can't get purps with out buying trucks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: notinternetfamous on March 20, 2024, 05:58:07 AM
I found that even cranking the nut down the loose truck bushings stayed the same. Very loose.
yea same experience for me even when cranked down. it just felt like i lost that classic Venture stability. it was nice having that kinda twitchy turn; similar to Thunder is the best way i can explain it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 20, 2024, 08:54:40 AM
It’s hard to recommend it because they can be triggering, but I skate bones no washer, but I think some of the benefit comes in the conical shape and no washer…..I don’t weigh anything though…..

I know some big dudes who like ventures though even in bowls….just because they are stable and they can throw all their weight into turns and not G out….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 20, 2024, 09:56:38 AM
Perps will get you there on 6.1s
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: smg1138 on March 22, 2024, 08:35:18 AM
Anybody made the switch from Indy to Venture? I've been on Indy's for years but have recently been experimenting with Venture High 5.6's. The stock bushings were too soft for my liking, but the blue Indy 92a replacement bushings seem to be the sweet spot for me. I could definitely see switching on shorter wheelbase decks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: art hellman on March 22, 2024, 08:50:57 AM
Anybody made the switch from Indy to Venture? I've been on Indy's for years but have recently been experimenting with Venture High 5.6's. The stock bushings were too soft for my liking, but the blue Indy 92a replacement bushings seem to be the sweet spot for me. I could definitely see switching on shorter wheelbase decks.

I'm been experimenting with some Ventures here and there (from Indys).  I got them to a great spot using Ace low bushings--which is how I'll keep them. I've also tried the loose bushing kit, and the top loose bushing on an Ace bottom bushing (both versions felt really tippy - uncontrolled loose). No matter what though, to me, they always turn wider/slower than Indys.  The stability at center and the grind are fun.  But also, as someone else said, once they are grooved a bit, the grind doesnt feel any different than Indy. 

I ultimately still prefer Indys over all other trucks (when paired with the indy aftermarkey conical bushings (med - orange)... but it's fun to skate the Ventures sometime... and I actually enjoy the Ventures more than I did skating Ace AF1s, which seems weird considering Ace AF1 is sorta where most former-Indy people go next. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 22, 2024, 09:02:44 PM
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Anybody made the switch from Indy to Venture? I've been on Indy's for years but have recently been experimenting with Venture High 5.6's. The stock bushings were too soft for my liking, but the blue Indy 92a replacement bushings seem to be the sweet spot for me. I could definitely see switching on shorter wheelbase decks.
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I'm been experimenting with some Ventures here and there (from Indys).  I got them to a great spot using Ace low bushings--which is how I'll keep them. I've also tried the loose bushing kit, and the top loose bushing on an Ace bottom bushing (both versions felt really tippy - uncontrolled loose). No matter what though, to me, they always turn wider/slower than Indys.  The stability at center and the grind are fun.  But also, as someone else said, once they are grooved a bit, the grind doesnt feel any different than Indy. 

I ultimately still prefer Indys over all other trucks (when paired with the indy aftermarkey conical bushings (med - orange)... but it's fun to skate the Ventures sometime... and I actually enjoy the Ventures more than I did skating Ace AF1s, which seems weird considering Ace AF1 is sorta where most former-Indy people go next.

I had to fuck with my Indys too. Conical orange. Probably white now I'm like 50lbs lighter than in 2016 when I switched from my baby thunder lows .I rode on my get around for almost all of my 20s and 30s. One set of dark greens that whole time. They was like paper thin. I loved it. I'd just replace the washers like every year.

That's what my Ventures feel like now. Indys i got to subscribe to unnecessary plastic bullshit bones bushings in the winter.

I rode stock tight for an hour. Loosen it up to -1.5 threads. I was like daaaaamn!!! This is like old gullwing nice.
My 5.8s I up cycled the thunder top to replace the ole dlxsf loose kit. 13.9 wb. Got the front truck wide open. So fun.

Shits bad ass.
I rode some I think Indy 169s today on a ps reissue. It's my brothers.

(https://i.ibb.co/B3xsZjH/IMG-20240322-221213-139.jpg) (https://ibb.co/B3xsZjH)

(https://i.ibb.co/89Zmhb7/IMG-20240322-221320-376.jpg) (https://ibb.co/89Zmhb7)

(https://i.ibb.co/68y56fN/IMG-20240322-221232-405.jpg) (https://ibb.co/68y56fN)

(https://i.ibb.co/L0y3H1w/IMG-20240322-221252-606.jpg) (https://ibb.co/L0y3H1w)

I could barely roll on it. The trucks are basically cranked. I can skate cranked ventures if I gotta. My brother is much heavier than I. It was the opposite but I pulled it. Hahaha. Always winning.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oak leaf on March 26, 2024, 06:57:27 AM
i’ve been on 5.8s for a minute now and i’m loving them for street, flat, and transition. the one thing im having a hard time doing on them is carving a bowl pocket. This felt pretty natural on my ACEs but they are more wobbly than id like for everything else.  anyone got a trick for hitting tight pocket carves on ventures? I feel like im just powersliding and losing speed
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 26, 2024, 03:16:23 PM
i’ve been on 5.8s for a minute now and i’m loving them for street, flat, and transition. the one thing im having a hard time doing on them is carving a bowl pocket. This felt pretty natural on my ACEs but they are more wobbly than id like for everything else.  anyone got a trick for hitting tight pocket carves on ventures? I feel like im just powersliding and losing speed


Any carve round corners is way more back foot, so really push down on your back toe (backside carve) or back heel (frontside carve) round the pocket and you should get a bit more used to it.

I also have some of everything, Venture, Indy, Thunder, Ace, etc so yeah sure Ace will just lean a little and turn a lot, but with Venture you have to get down a little lower and really dig in the back foot.  Reason I say more back foot is you don't want too much weight on the front and wheelbite which will throw you off, but if you can get anywhere near wheelbite on the back, it will not matter and you will have turned a lot more.

Funny how that works, but it is a real thing, even on flat or anything else too, although you are more likely to slide a bit on flat if you really dig in a back heel or toe.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 26, 2024, 05:49:57 PM
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i’ve been on 5.8s for a minute now and i’m loving them for street, flat, and transition. the one thing im having a hard time doing on them is carving a bowl pocket. This felt pretty natural on my ACEs but they are more wobbly than id like for everything else.  anyone got a trick for hitting tight pocket carves on ventures? I feel like im just powersliding and losing speed
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Any carve round corners is way more back foot, so really push down on your back toe (backside carve) or back heel (frontside carve) round the pocket and you should get a bit more used to it.

I also have some of everything, Venture, Indy, Thunder, Ace, etc so yeah sure Ace will just lean a little and turn a lot, but with Venture you have to get down a little lower and really dig in the back foot.  Reason I say more back foot is you don't want too much weight on the front and wheelbite which will throw you off, but if you can get anywhere near wheelbite on the back, it will not matter and you will have turned a lot more.

Funny how that works, but it is a real thing, even on flat or anything else too, although you are more likely to slide a bit on flat if you really dig in a back heel or toe.

Do you think the reason I can't get FS around a square bowl corner is because I'm too front seat? I've basically given up on big squares. I need a real tight corner to FS. So I can follow through all the way without going to shoulder or whatever.

Maybe just falling off the wall and landing on the face. I need to stand up on coping to get around a 90⁰ square. It's frustrating.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on March 26, 2024, 06:45:36 PM
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i’ve been on 5.8s for a minute now and i’m loving them for street, flat, and transition. the one thing im having a hard time doing on them is carving a bowl pocket. This felt pretty natural on my ACEs but they are more wobbly than id like for everything else.  anyone got a trick for hitting tight pocket carves on ventures? I feel like im just powersliding and losing speed
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Any carve round corners is way more back foot, so really push down on your back toe (backside carve) or back heel (frontside carve) round the pocket and you should get a bit more used to it.

I also have some of everything, Venture, Indy, Thunder, Ace, etc so yeah sure Ace will just lean a little and turn a lot, but with Venture you have to get down a little lower and really dig in the back foot.  Reason I say more back foot is you don't want too much weight on the front and wheelbite which will throw you off, but if you can get anywhere near wheelbite on the back, it will not matter and you will have turned a lot more.

Funny how that works, but it is a real thing, even on flat or anything else too, although you are more likely to slide a bit on flat if you really dig in a back heel or toe.
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Do you think the reason I can't get FS around a square bowl corner is because I'm too front seat? I've basically given up on big squares. I need a real tight corner to FS. So I can follow through all the way without going to shoulder or whatever.

Maybe just falling off the wall and landing on the face. I need to stand up on coping to get around a 90⁰ square. It's frustrating.


That motion of getting the upper body turning and applying back foot pressure is the main thing.

I have seen people just fall right off a frontside carve when front foot pressed heel side down and wheelbite stopped the board dead - not a pretty sight, or sound.

Getting lower and especially if it is a whippy kind of corner getting just a little in the back more than the front works wonders, but make sure you don't end up too far back and then manual out - often ends in an eat shit moment of a different kind, which is not fun either.


Worth a shot even just lower down and not going super fast the way you would up higher just to figure out the motion.  We have a small square bowl that is really good to get people to learn how to carve round, rather than lift and turn, lift and turn, lift and turn every wall, so when I see people get it, they really open up a whole new world, so to speak.


* Ventures do turn a lot, but it is just a different kind of turn to other trucks, so working out how much pressure and where the body needs to be can then help anyone turn on any truck, but on some others, it is a lot easier to just put a little weight on one side and everything almost does a U turn without meaning to, especially coming from Ventures and skating Ace trucks for a session, which was so weird.





Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on March 26, 2024, 10:28:04 PM
Oh man…..I hate this conversion because it only leads us to one place….and I don’t like it……

Indy…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: your mom on March 27, 2024, 05:20:44 AM
This was my solution. The indy truck replacement kit.

I tried ventures for a few months after riding indys for years and could never get them to feel good in a bowl. Plus the axles bent and I'm strictly lightweight low impact..

Put the indys back on and all is good. Might try ace or slappys one of these days for the madness
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Luismps on March 28, 2024, 08:54:10 AM
Sorry for the question that I thought had already been answered but I couldn't find it.

1 - All cast plates have the same size, whether 5.6 or 5.8, right? I can change the plate between sizes?
2 - Do you need 1" screws for the cast plates? Is 7/8" not enough?

Thanks you for your help
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 28, 2024, 09:17:59 AM
Sorry for the question that I thought had already been answered but I couldn't find it.

1 - All cast plates have the same size, whether 5.6 or 5.8, right? I can change the plate between sizes?
2 - Do you need 1" screws for the cast plates? Is 7/8" not enough?

Thanks you for your help

All cast and forged plates are interchangeable, forged are 1.5mm shorter than cast. See my signature for height measurements.

7/8" hardware will fit on cast or forged baseplates. Go 1" if you plan on using 1/8" risers.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Luismps on March 28, 2024, 09:38:45 AM
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Sorry for the question that I thought had already been answered but I couldn't find it.

1 - All cast plates have the same size, whether 5.6 or 5.8, right? I can change the plate between sizes?
2 - Do you need 1" screws for the cast plates? Is 7/8" not enough?

Thanks you for your help
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All cast and forged plates are interchangeable, forged are 1.5mm shorter than cast. See my signature for height measurements.

7/8" hardware will fit on cast or forged baseplates. Go 1" if you plan on using 1/8" risers.

Tks rocklobster!
No risers here.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Orangepulp1000 on April 01, 2024, 05:04:27 AM
Just a quick appreciation to the 6.1 V hollows damn these things feel good!!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 04, 2024, 08:00:44 PM
Facing some gear madness, taking a short detour to Indy 149 territory. I don't know if and when I will return, but know that I'm very proud of all of you regardless.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 04, 2024, 09:50:53 PM
asleep
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 04, 2024, 10:14:55 PM
asleep

Appropriate, my Garmin smart watch has been telling me my sleep quality has been poor for over a week now. Need to get off the Ventures to finally catch up on the z's.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 04, 2024, 10:32:01 PM
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i’ve been on 5.8s for a minute now and i’m loving them for street, flat, and transition. the one thing im having a hard time doing on them is carving a bowl pocket. This felt pretty natural on my ACEs but they are more wobbly than id like for everything else.  anyone got a trick for hitting tight pocket carves on ventures? I feel like im just powersliding and losing speed
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Any carve round corners is way more back foot, so really push down on your back toe (backside carve) or back heel (frontside carve) round the pocket and you should get a bit more used to it.

I also have some of everything, Venture, Indy, Thunder, Ace, etc so yeah sure Ace will just lean a little and turn a lot, but with Venture you have to get down a little lower and really dig in the back foot.  Reason I say more back foot is you don't want too much weight on the front and wheelbite which will throw you off, but if you can get anywhere near wheelbite on the back, it will not matter and you will have turned a lot more.

Funny how that works, but it is a real thing, even on flat or anything else too, although you are more likely to slide a bit on flat if you really dig in a back heel or toe.
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Do you think the reason I can't get FS around a square bowl corner is because I'm too front seat? I've basically given up on big squares. I need a real tight corner to FS. So I can follow through all the way without going to shoulder or whatever.

Maybe just falling off the wall and landing on the face. I need to stand up on coping to get around a 90⁰ square. It's frustrating.
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That motion of getting the upper body turning and applying back foot pressure is the main thing.

I have seen people just fall right off a frontside carve when front foot pressed heel side down and wheelbite stopped the board dead - not a pretty sight, or sound.

Getting lower and especially if it is a whippy kind of corner getting just a little in the back more than the front works wonders, but make sure you don't end up too far back and then manual out - often ends in an eat shit moment of a different kind, which is not fun either.


Worth a shot even just lower down and not going super fast the way you would up higher just to figure out the motion.  We have a small square bowl that is really good to get people to learn how to carve round, rather than lift and turn, lift and turn, lift and turn every wall, so when I see people get it, they really open up a whole new world, so to speak.


* Ventures do turn a lot, but it is just a different kind of turn to other trucks, so working out how much pressure and where the body needs to be can then help anyone turn on any truck, but on some others, it is a lot easier to just put a little weight on one side and everything almost does a U turn without meaning to, especially coming from Ventures and skating Ace trucks for a session, which was so weird.

Yeah I'm too front seat. I can see it in my mind. Im gonna go work on it this week.

It just kinda hurts the ligaments too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on April 05, 2024, 12:23:43 AM
Facing some gear madness, taking a short detour to Indy 149 territory. I don't know if and when I will return, but know that I'm very proud of all of you regardless.

Godspeed. I just set up another complete (8.25 DLX) with 149 Indy Tits. It's been sitting in my room for a while now, haven't dared to step on it yet. Aiming to hit more pool/transition stuff on that one.

That said, gonna skate my 5.6 V-Lights today like God intended.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 05, 2024, 06:08:24 AM
Facing some gear madness, taking a short detour to Indy 149 territory. I don't know if and when I will return, but know that I'm very proud of all of you regardless.


what’s the goal?

before i totally lost the plot, i thought that ventures made my setup feel ‘larger’, enabling me to ride a smaller complete.
but if i wanted to ride a larger than i should board, indy’s and the like, made it more manageable. or something.
the i just started trying combinations of everything and have no idea how to get back.
first day on indy’s, i tend to like them quite a bit. next session after that, i realize i can’t do em.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 05, 2024, 07:02:59 AM
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Facing some gear madness, taking a short detour to Indy 149 territory. I don't know if and when I will return, but know that I'm very proud of all of you regardless.
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what’s the goal?

before i totally lost the plot, i thought that ventures made my setup feel ‘larger’, enabling me to ride a smaller complete.
but if i wanted to ride a larger than i should board, indy’s and the like, made it more manageable. or something.
the i just started trying combinations of everything and have no idea how to get back.
first day on indy’s, i tend to like them quite a bit. next session after that, i realize i can’t do em.

I honestly don't know, not adapting well to the Opera deck, thinking it could be the 14"WB. And trying to learn slappys again so I thought it would be fun to try Indys for a change. Was in a bit of a funk ever since I tweaked my ankle a month back, could get consistent session in to rebuild my confidence, couple with over-skating last week to try making up for the past few weeks.

Not full blown madness, just need a holiday before realizing the Big V has always treated me good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on April 05, 2024, 07:05:24 AM
I tend to take occasional stints on Indys every once in a while only to always happily return home to Ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on April 05, 2024, 09:41:09 AM
I tend to take occasional stints on Indys every once in a while only to always happily return home to Ventures.

I am the exact opposite. I want nothing more than to love venture based on nostalgia - venture were my first trucks and something I skated consistently in the past. And for similar reasons, I have been disinclined to accept that Indy works for me on most boards.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manuduncan on April 05, 2024, 09:57:53 AM
i mostly skate curbs and occasionally when my old legs are feeling spicy i'll jump onto some ledges i'll say 65/35 split

i need all the help i can get with my pop so i really want to try ventures but the irrational stupid side of my brain is telling me my slappy tricks will suffer

can any awake individuals assure me i'll be fine or that the tradeoff is worth it and i'll ditch the curbs and become a ledge god
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 05, 2024, 10:23:55 AM
Slappies on Venture will not suffer, at all; just dial in the tight/loose level and you'll be fine. There will be an adjustment period no matter what based on the truck you're currently used too? Which are what?

I slappy a lot, but also ollie shit, flatground, ledges, whatever and I would rather have a board that does it all than something that is 'slappy' only.

Don't let the Indy/ACE 10" Egg with rails crowd tell you any different ;) they're (most of them) the ones that gave up doing other shit on the regular.

You can slappy with any setup but I find I lose tricks with 'slappy' setups as they're usually bigger, wider, longer and heavier making flip tricks more inconsistent.


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 05, 2024, 10:48:26 AM
i mostly skate curbs and occasionally when my old legs are feeling spicy i'll jump onto some ledges i'll say 65/35 split

i need all the help i can get with my pop so i really want to try ventures but the irrational stupid side of my brain is telling me my slappy tricks will suffer

can any awake individuals assure me i'll be fine or that the tradeoff is worth it and i'll ditch the curbs and become a ledge god

Maybe Kader cast v lites. I'm pretty sure pals be selling on the classifieds board. Then you don't gotta feel bad if you don't use um.

I would recommend a hollow Venture as a first Venture truck. Get the pop feel without the weight.

The thunder pop feel is similar too. So if you've riden thunder you already know how a v hollow feels when striking your tale.

I wish I took advantage of the Kader cast.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Thebird on April 05, 2024, 12:30:23 PM
i mostly skate curbs and occasionally when my old legs are feeling spicy i'll jump onto some ledges i'll say 65/35 split

i need all the help i can get with my pop so i really want to try ventures but the irrational stupid side of my brain is telling me my slappy tricks will suffer

can any awake individuals assure me i'll be fine or that the tradeoff is worth it and i'll ditch the curbs and become a ledge god

You'll either love em or hate em, but there is only one way to find out.  I personally like them because I like the extra heft.  Probably just muscle memory for me, but other trucks make my board feel too light.  I also feel like Ventures have the best balance point for manuals, but once again. That is probably my muscle memory.  If you do try them, don't give up on them right away.  It may take some time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 05, 2024, 12:35:28 PM
Slappies on Venture will not suffer, at all; just dial in the tight/loose level and you'll be fine. There will be an adjustment period no matter what based on the truck you're currently used too? Which are what?

I slappy a lot, but also ollie shit, flatground, ledges, whatever and I would rather have a board that does it all than something that is 'slappy' only.

Don't let the Indy/ACE 10" Egg with rails crowd tell you any different ;) they're (most of them) the ones that gave up doing other shit on the regular.

You can slappy with any setup but I find I lose tricks with 'slappy' setups as they're usually bigger, wider, longer and heavier making flip tricks more inconsistent.

Very accurate information
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: manuduncan on April 05, 2024, 02:22:54 PM
Thanks all I just ordered venture hollows purple bushings

I been on Indy hollow 149s on 8.5 deck and I have no problems in particular with them they’re a solid 7.5/10 on everything but im having a case of the grass being greener

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 05, 2024, 04:05:26 PM
i couldnt imagine skating a 55mm truck
and enjoying it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on April 06, 2024, 01:23:54 AM

Don't let the Indy/ACE 10" Egg with rails crowd tell you any different ;) they're (most of them) the ones that gave up doing other shit on the regular.


Yeah fuck that shit for me, it's all good if the peeps enjoy it, but I'm not gonna give up on being able to skate pretty much everything, which I can't see myself doing on a huge-ass egg with uber-loose wide-as-shit trucks. Maybe when I'm 60.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on April 06, 2024, 01:31:47 AM
Thanks all I just ordered venture hollows purple bushings

I been on Indy hollow 149s on 8.5 deck and I have no problems in particular with them they’re a solid 7.5/10 on everything but im having a case of the grass being greener

You'll love the pop.

My friend on Indy 149 Standards stepped on my board (5.6 V-lights) yesterday to try out some ollies and was impressed. Of course it's not just the truck itself -- someone who can ollie for real can do it on anything, but for myself, after switching between Indy and Venture for a long while, I've come to the conclusion that the "Venture pop" is not just some placebo kool-aid. It's a real thing.

On my 8.25 x 14.2 deck my pop goes to shit with forged Indys. Same deck and Ventures -- my ollie is as good, snappy, solid and stable as it gets with my middle-age physical abilities.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 06, 2024, 03:09:31 AM
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Don't let the Indy/ACE 10" Egg with rails crowd tell you any different ;) they're (most of them) the ones that gave up doing other shit on the regular.

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Yeah fuck that shit for me, it's all good if the peeps enjoy it, but I'm not gonna give up on being able to skate pretty much everything, which I can't see myself doing on a huge-ass egg with uber-loose wide-as-shit trucks. Maybe when I'm 60.

I'm mediocre all around, having a specialist shape isn't helping my mediocrity.

And I'm determined to avoid prematurely aging myself and being a stickler about what tricks I should or shouldn't be doing. I'll flipping my board for as long as these ankle ligaments still allow me to.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Creachteach on April 07, 2024, 12:43:51 AM
Just got my set of ventures. They’re 5.8. Going on an 8.5”. Trying to obtain tricks on flat this year.

Looks like one is a venture hi, and the other high af.


Do the taller one go on the front or the back?


(https://i.ibb.co/g4W8FnC/IMG-3735.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g4W8FnC)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: switchfrontshuv on April 07, 2024, 11:09:44 AM
Just got my set of ventures. They’re 5.8. Going on an 8.5”. Trying to obtain tricks on flat this year.

Looks like one is a venture hi, and the other high af.


Do the taller one go on the front or the back?

(https://i.ibb.co/g4W8FnC/IMG-3735.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g4W8FnC)

Unfortunately, they’re supposed to be the same height
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 07, 2024, 11:32:46 AM
Just got my set of ventures. They’re 5.8. Going on an 8.5”. Trying to obtain tricks on flat this year.

Looks like one is a venture hi, and the other high af.


Do the taller one go on the front or the back?


(https://i.ibb.co/g4W8FnC/IMG-3735.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g4W8FnC)



That’s….weird….id reach out to dlx with that pic.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Creachteach on April 07, 2024, 02:38:57 PM
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Just got my set of ventures. They’re 5.8. Going on an 8.5”. Trying to obtain tricks on flat this year.

Looks like one is a venture hi, and the other high af.


Do the taller one go on the front or the back?

(https://i.ibb.co/g4W8FnC/IMG-3735.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g4W8FnC)
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Unfortunately, they’re supposed to be the same height

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Just got my set of ventures. They’re 5.8. Going on an 8.5”. Trying to obtain tricks on flat this year.

Looks like one is a venture hi, and the other high af.


Do the taller one go on the front or the back?


(https://i.ibb.co/g4W8FnC/IMG-3735.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g4W8FnC)

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That’s….weird….id reach out to dlx with that pic.

They’re both Lucien Clarkes I got on clearance. And they were $10 LESS THAN ONE Indy truck.

Honestly I’m not going to contact anyone about this, but you guys. Just thought I were being funny  :)

For my skating this won’t matter at all. Hoping to get a flip trick of sorts in the bag on this setup, before end of year.

Either way I put it on the front for less wheelbite as I usually run that one a lil looser.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chaosisme on April 07, 2024, 11:23:25 PM
Has anyone just taken the washers off their trucks (the ones on the bushings) for a bit more wiggle? Or is this a ridiculous idea?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mbrimson88 on April 08, 2024, 01:16:49 AM
Has anyone just taken the washers off their trucks (the ones on the bushings) for a bit more wiggle? Or is this a ridiculous idea?


Yes, it is something I often do for really light weight kids when they are trying to turn but just can't quite get there, usually the bottom only, but sometimes top too, if they are really, really light / small and just can't get the bushings to do what they want.

That is the cheapest and easiest thing to try if anyone feels like their trucks are not turning enough, easy to try with no problem putting the bushing washers back in when needed.


Some other guys I know run no washers on all their setups, stupid loose is maybe the best way I can explain it, but they like it and it works for them, so whatever floats your boat there.

That is a lot easier than sanding down / grinding down / cutting down the bushings just to make them looser - done that a few times and took too much off, or messed up the bushings, but I didn't mind with the ones I had - a good learning experience.


* To add, using the Bones or other flat washer, as some do on here, is a very good in between as well, which doesn't cup the bushing and keep it squeezed into a certain shape, more often just the top, but you could use it on any, top or bottom, as well.

Some washers from hardware stores are rubbish and bend far too easily, but others work well.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 08, 2024, 10:26:20 PM
I run bones and flat washers and sometimes I think the best part is the washers…..conical bushings too give you more play too…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 09, 2024, 09:43:59 AM
I run bones and flat washers and sometimes I think the best part is the washers…..conical bushings too give you more play too…..

I can only run bones hards these day due to weight but even they feel too tippy in ventures; it for sure opens them up a lot but doing so sacrifices stability (for me). Currently riding stocks w/flat sleeved washers and they're 100% fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 09, 2024, 12:58:44 PM
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I run bones and flat washers and sometimes I think the best part is the washers…..conical bushings too give you more play too…..
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I can only run bones hards these day due to weight but even they feel too tippy in ventures; it for sure opens them up a lot but doing so sacrifices stability (for me). Currently riding stocks w/flat sleeved washers and they're 100% fine.

hards in the lo’s are sick.
never thought to try them in the hi’s.
if i’m being honest…im good with tighter trucks. i like the pop and stability of ventures. i’m understand that comes with less wobble, that’s fine. this shit is not a slalom. i’m trying to go 1.75 mph and mob the fuck out of a ground scraping nollie flip. i’m really out here.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 09, 2024, 10:55:03 PM
I ride Ventures because the lack of turning allows me to be a loose(r)  truck guy…..life savers man….
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on April 10, 2024, 06:57:59 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/C4MK3NuJwL2/

i definitely do slappies on ventures. if you go wider you get better turning. i have these basically as loose as they can go and the turning feels a bit tight still cause they are also an 8" truck. I feel like I don't have the thunders maybe as loose (sitting flush / stock) but this setup turns better than my 8.25" Thunder 148 setup. I don't think you NEED to have insane turning for anything - you can always put it loose enough so that it will still work pretty much anywhere you need it to and you get a nice turn. im sure theres ways you can fuck with the bushings to make it even looser but when you learn how to use it properly you will change your approaches a bit and it actually feels really dope and predictable.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: roba on April 10, 2024, 07:48:09 AM
yeah the ventures not turning is a lie, yall must have not seen me skate, contrary to what the other poster said this shit is in fact slalom
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 10, 2024, 08:38:56 AM
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Just got my set of ventures. They’re 5.8. Going on an 8.5”. Trying to obtain tricks on flat this year.

Looks like one is a venture hi, and the other high af.


Do the taller one go on the front or the back?


(https://i.ibb.co/g4W8FnC/IMG-3735.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g4W8FnC)

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That’s….weird….id reach out to dlx with that pic.

Flip it over look in the hole.

My one pair of 5.2s are miss matched. It's not rideable like this. Even with the tallest one on the front.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 10, 2024, 09:02:28 AM
yeah the ventures not turning is a lie, yall must have not seen me skate, contrary to what the other poster  this shit is in fact slalom

(https://i.ibb.co/Pt1YR8z/4-F76056-D-E294-40-B8-A72-B-20-F5-C02-C0-B33.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: munchbox on April 10, 2024, 09:16:21 AM
i can make them go wherever with 98a bushings
if youre struggling with stock 90a, go softer
or work on your fundamentals
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on April 10, 2024, 09:41:18 AM
I enjoy my local bowl with tight pockets and corners on Ventures. They turn hella great. As said above, you just have to be able to skate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 10, 2024, 10:10:20 AM
yeah the ventures not turning is a lie, yall must have not seen me skate, contrary to what the other poster said this shit is in fact slalom

Full agree bruv. I've made several pov videos of the turn. I m a throw it up now if I can find.

Armin said it best when I first tried to switch to lows. They turn but turn different. I fuckin returned them 10 minutes later. I couldn't even roll on them. It was hilarious af.
I felt like the biggest piece of shit walking back into that shop hat in hand. If there was one scratch on them or slightly discolored bushings I wouldn't have even tried.
Couple weeks later I had to do it again. This thread was heavily on my mind 24/7.
I needed to tap into the street legacy of ermico before it was too late.
BOOM!
Cast 5.6s.
Took about 2 weeks of daily to be totally at home. I'm telling y'all. This is just like my old Gullwing Sidewinders. Just heavier. The hollows was closer. That old Gullwing is the best colour truck ever with the Golden Apple Green. I loved flipping that shit and seeing the truck flip by my Enigma while waiting for bolts to come around. Fakie V flip madness. Impossible heaven. Green is my colour. I love Oxblood but on skate stuff it's like green purple an orange wheels #1. Green everything when I can.

Now I could skate a low np but it is incredibly jarring at first. I had literally 30 or more years on Thunder so I thought lows but highs are definitely my shit. Way closer to other truck's turns and I like to be as high as possible yah dig.

Same shit happened with the fast breaks. Shop said the shoe was sicker and way stronger than it looks. 100% facts.
Boston is blessed. No fool can deny that shit.

Awake like Britney Murphy in Spun.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rawbertson. on April 10, 2024, 10:34:48 AM
I would definitely go low on a 7.75 setup. lol its funny cause i feel like I am actually not skilled enough to utlize the full potential of such a small board after seeing what dudes are staying on this setup after all the smoke has cleared. you need to have a good switch tre and nollie back heel otherwise gtf off there!!  ;D ;D  would be such an incredible setup to work on flip tricks for though especially as a senior citizen
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on April 10, 2024, 04:42:17 PM
Do you feel cast or forged highs are better suited for flat kicks (assuming same wheelbase, fingers of flat, concave etc.).  More specifically 5.8's. Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 11, 2024, 05:40:10 PM
Do you feel cast or forged highs are better suited for flat kicks (assuming same wheelbase, fingers of flat, concave etc.).  More specifically 5.8's. Thanks!

Either. Wheelbase and wheel size would be my determining factor.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sans umbilical on April 11, 2024, 06:53:22 PM
I've been running 5.2 Lo's on DLX 8.06 decks. Would I need to go to a 5.0 Lo if I drop to a 7.75? Also, I'm on 52mm Classics if that info is any help. On the Venture chart, it says 5.2 fits 7.9 - 8.1. So, would I be hot-rodding if I stay on 5.2's?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Scottboarding on April 11, 2024, 07:18:04 PM
I've been running 5.2 Lo's on DLX 8.06 decks. Would I need to go to a 5.0 Lo if I drop to a 7.75? Also, I'm on 52mm Classics if that info is any help. On the Venture chart, it says 5.2 fits 7.9 - 8.1. So, would I be hot-rodding if I stay on 5.2's?
Yeah the 5.2s have an 8 inch axle so you'll be hot-rodding with that. The 5.0s have a 7.62 inch axle so those will be slightly smaller than the deck size meaning neither will be perfect. With 52mm classics 5.2s won't be too crazy if you ask me.

https://venturetrucks.net/sizes/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 11, 2024, 07:19:33 PM
It's 0.125" on either side, I wouldn't stress....and your wheels will be lined up with the edge of the deck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sans umbilical on April 11, 2024, 08:14:16 PM
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I've been running 5.2 Lo's on DLX 8.06 decks. Would I need to go to a 5.0 Lo if I drop to a 7.75? Also, I'm on 52mm Classics if that info is any help. On the Venture chart, it says 5.2 fits 7.9 - 8.1. So, would I be hot-rodding if I stay on 5.2's?
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Yeah the 5.2s have an 8 inch axle so you'll be hot-rodding with that. The 5.0s have a 7.62 inch axle so those will be slightly smaller than the deck size meaning neither will be perfect. With 52mm classics 5.2s won't be too crazy if you ask me.

https://venturetrucks.net/sizes/

Thank you for the feedback.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sans umbilical on April 11, 2024, 08:16:39 PM
It's 0.125" on either side, I wouldn't stress....and your wheels will be lined up with the edge of the deck.

Oh, really? That sounds almost perfect then (if I understand you correctly). Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: j....soy..... on April 11, 2024, 10:00:16 PM
If you’re not married to the 7.75 size, I’d just try it.  I rode 8.125’s on 5.6’s a bunch and the axel never stuck out.  The boards tend to be a hair larger, not sure if it’s the measurement points or what…..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sans umbilical on April 12, 2024, 05:39:01 AM
If you’re not married to the 7.75 size, I’d just try it.  I rode 8.125’s on 5.6’s a bunch and the axel never stuck out.  The boards tend to be a hair larger, not sure if it’s the measurement points or what…..

Nah, I’m not married to it. It’s more of an experiment. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bongwater Mojito on April 19, 2024, 08:48:11 PM
The longer days got me awake earlier, and well, who doesn't want some gear madness in spring? To address it I decided to try Ventures after over 30 years on other brands. Wanted to have a pretty typical setup, so 5.6 V-Lights and a G052 shape. After initial sessions, I kind of like it. The timing is different compared to Indys and BBS boards, but so far I feel like I can adjust to it. I like the center stability, and when tilted, the turn is adequate. When nose-/tailsliding the baseplate slide and more bodyweight on top of the ledge feels way better than with Indys. Maybe only negative thing I noticed immediately is the "correctional responsiveness", ie. when you want to quickly turn a bit to fix your off-balance. That's slower than on Indys. I guess it comes with the territory, nothing to be done? Running stock, not sure how much I want to mod them, maybe Riptide pivots. I guess flat top washer affects more to the maximum turn, not the issue I'm having? In any case, gonna keep riding these especially when skating ledges and street.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 19, 2024, 09:02:14 PM
The longer days got me awake earlier, and well, who doesn't want some gear madness in spring? To address it I decided to try Ventures after over 30 years on other brands. Wanted to have a pretty typical setup, so 5.6 V-Lights and a G052 shape. After initial sessions, I kind of like it. The timing is different compared to Indys and BBS boards, but so far I feel like I can adjust to it. I like the center stability, and when tilted, the turn is adequate. When nose-/tailsliding the baseplate slide and more bodyweight on top of the ledge feels way better than with Indys. Maybe only negative thing I noticed immediately is the "correctional responsiveness", ie. when you want to quickly turn a bit to fix your off-balance. That's slower than on Indys. I guess it comes with the territory, nothing to be done? Running stock, not sure how much I want to mod them, maybe Riptide pivots. I guess flat top washer affects more to the maximum turn, not the issue I'm having? In any case, gonna keep riding these especially when skating ledges and street.

Yep, that's the downside to them; with indy/ace you have that loose swerve (if you can tame it on loose trucks) and thunder has their twitch. Ventures aren't as forgiving in that regard and how they get bagged on for 'not turning' and being a 'ledge/flatground skater's truck since they ride tight/don't need much turn.

You could try conical bottoms (bones, like yuto ;)) but be warned you will lose the magical stability they provide.

If you haven't already, swap out the top washer for a flat one (the hanger binds on the stock one if you ride loose enough) or go bones top stock bottom.

It messes with the geo just a bit as the bottoms are lower, but ACE hard LOWs are amazing in them; as is the stock bottom and a LOW HARD top if you can find one (fixes the washer binding and gets you a snappier back to center since you are doing the dual duro thing).



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 19, 2024, 09:24:03 PM
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The longer days got me awake earlier, and well, who doesn't want some gear madness in spring? To address it I decided to try Ventures after over 30 years on other brands. Wanted to have a pretty typical setup, so 5.6 V-Lights and a G052 shape. After initial sessions, I kind of like it. The timing is different compared to Indys and BBS boards, but so far I feel like I can adjust to it. I like the center stability, and when tilted, the turn is adequate. When nose-/tailsliding the baseplate slide and more bodyweight on top of the ledge feels way better than with Indys. Maybe only negative thing I noticed immediately is the "correctional responsiveness", ie. when you want to quickly turn a bit to fix your off-balance. That's slower than on Indys. I guess it comes with the territory, nothing to be done? Running stock, not sure how much I want to mod them, maybe Riptide pivots. I guess flat top washer affects more to the maximum turn, not the issue I'm having? In any case, gonna keep riding these especially when skating ledges and street.
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Yep, that's the downside to them; with indy/ace you have that loose swerve (if you can tame it on loose trucks) and thunder has their twitch. Ventures aren't as forgiving in that regard and how they get bagged on for 'not turning' and being a 'ledge/flatground skater's truck since they ride tight/don't need much turn.

You could try conical bottoms (bones, like yuto ;)) but be warned you will lose the magical stability they provide.

If you haven't already, swap out the top washer for a flat one (the hanger binds on the stock one if you ride loose enough) or go bones top stock bottom.

It messes with the geo just a bit as the bottoms are lower, but ACE hard LOWs are amazing in them; as is the stock bottom and a LOW HARD top if you can find one (fixes the washer binding and gets you a snappier back to center since you are doing the dual duro thing).

Fuck you @Xen now you got me hankering for some Ace Hard Low bushings and return to an Awakened state.

During the session today I was complaining to a homie about the Opera twin I've been riding, and he said I must really hate the board if it made me want to try Indys. I think he's right - I'm trying too make a board work.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bongwater Mojito on April 19, 2024, 10:59:17 PM
If you haven't already, swap out the top washer for a flat one (the hanger binds on the stock one if you ride loose enough) or go bones top stock bottom.

Been considering the flat washers. Do they affect the durability of the top bushings? I understood it's difficult to find replacements and so far I like the stock bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rikki on April 20, 2024, 12:27:18 AM
Re: the Venture turn: upon skating more street/ledges/etc. for the past year I've been loving tighter trucks and yes, Ventures (currently on 5.6 V-lights with an 8.25, stock bushings). The stability is unmatched for me. Anyway, I've recently noticed that if I loosen up the trucks a bit from the quite tight setting I've been on, the turn actually feels pretty amazing. I don't miss the turn of any other truck. It's all about what one's used to. And part of it is just in the mind. Better not buy any narratives like "Ventures don't turn" before getting to know them in depth. They can do anything any other truck can, and I'm not exaggerating here. I f*cking love them, stock bushings and all.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 20, 2024, 10:02:46 AM
Re: the Venture turn: upon skating more street/ledges/etc. for the past year I've been loving tighter trucks and yes, Ventures (currently on 5.6 V-lights with an 8.25, stock bushings). The stability is unmatched for me. Anyway, I've recently noticed that if I loosen up the trucks a bit from the quite tight setting I've been on, the turn actually feels pretty amazing. I don't miss the turn of any other truck. It's all about what one's used to. And part of it is just in the mind. Better not buy any narratives like "Ventures don't turn" before getting to know them in depth. They can do anything any other truck can, and I'm not exaggerating here. I f*cking love them, stock bushings and all.
my head - those Indy stage 4’s look tempting. My body- *adds a 5.6 to cart instead* I can never go back to anything else! I just need 10 sets of stock purp bushings and I would be set for a while
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 20, 2024, 10:24:41 AM
If you’re not married to the 7.75 size, I’d just try it.  I rode 8.125’s on 5.6’s a bunch and the axel never stuck out.  The boards tend to be a hair larger, not sure if it’s the measurement points or what…..

This what I was thinking.

For me there is a such thing as too small a grind surface. Or there was. I barely get on the front truck these days.
The smaller truck is good for crooks but not the best for staying balanced and straight. For me.
Wider trucks might piv on the block less? Could be in my head.

I do not like being crooked on top. It's a good way to catch and bang the ass bone on the block. Causing another unwanted body change
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 20, 2024, 11:52:37 AM
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If you’re not married to the 7.75 size, I’d just try it.  I rode 8.125’s on 5.6’s a bunch and the axel never stuck out.  The boards tend to be a hair larger, not sure if it’s the measurement points or what…..
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This what I was thinking.

For me there is a such thing as too small a grind surface. Or there was. I barely get on the front truck these days.
The smaller truck is good for crooks but not the best for staying balanced and straight. For me.
Wider trucks might piv on the block less? Could be in my head.

I do not like being crooked on top. It's a good way to catch and bang the ass bone on the block. Causing another unwanted body change


I flip flop thinking I need larger trucks for more room...then I think what do I need more room for, exactly? As I tend to slide around way more on larger trucks (149+) and smaller trucks lock-in better.

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If you haven't already, swap out the top washer for a flat one (the hanger binds on the stock one if you ride loose enough) or go bones top stock bottom.
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Been considering the flat washers. Do they affect the durability of the top bushings? I understood it's difficult to find replacements and so far I like the stock bushings.

Nope, no downside to a flat top washer. Honestly the idea of washers are supposed to work seems very antiquated, especially with harder duro bushings readily available. Cupped washers are supposed to 'stop/restrict' the bushings from bottoming out. It's why I use flat washer all around. FWIW the stock bushings are fine, there are better quality bushings out there they just don't come in PURPLE!

@rocklobster Based on what you've told me, that Opera is a wash my dude. Time to move on.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ImmanuelCunt on April 20, 2024, 12:28:01 PM
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If you’re not married to the 7.75 size, I’d just try it.  I rode 8.125’s on 5.6’s a bunch and the axel never stuck out.  The boards tend to be a hair larger, not sure if it’s the measurement points or what…..
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This what I was thinking.

For me there is a such thing as too small a grind surface. Or there was. I barely get on the front truck these days.
The smaller truck is good for crooks but not the best for staying balanced and straight. For me.
Wider trucks might piv on the block less? Could be in my head.

I do not like being crooked on top. It's a good way to catch and bang the ass bone on the block. Causing another unwanted body change

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I flip flop thinking I need larger trucks for more room...then I think what do I need more room for, exactly? As I tend to slide around way more on larger trucks (149+) and smaller trucks lock-in better.

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If you haven't already, swap out the top washer for a flat one (the hanger binds on the stock one if you ride loose enough) or go bones top stock bottom.
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Been considering the flat washers. Do they affect the durability of the top bushings? I understood it's difficult to find replacements and so far I like the stock bushings.
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Nope, no downside to a flat top washer. Honestly the idea of washers are supposed to work seems very antiquated, especially with harder duro bushings readily available. Cupped washers are supposed to 'stop/restrict' the bushings from bottoming out. It's why I use flat washer all around. FWIW the stock bushings are fine, there are better quality bushings out there they just don't come in PURPLE!

@rocklobster Based on what you've told me, that Opera is a wash my dude. Time to move on.

The only downside with flatwashers from my experience is that they might bite more aggressively on smith/feeble on rails especially on trucks like the 147s with barely any kingpin clearance.  Had deep scratches on the flatbar from the edge of the washer on trys were i stuck and felt a harsh resistant and never had that problem with cupped washers (it was the was her not the kingpin nut). Swapped them after that on the 147s. Did not have that problem that extreme on venture 5.6 on the bones washers with the bones ones but with the with the larger diameter ones from riptide it was the same. Obviously a combination of the angle, the non existent clearance, size of washer etc. Others die not have that problem or did not mind it but for me it was a dealbreaker.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 20, 2024, 03:07:40 PM
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If you’re not married to the 7.75 size, I’d just try it.  I rode 8.125’s on 5.6’s a bunch and the axel never stuck out.  The boards tend to be a hair larger, not sure if it’s the measurement points or what…..
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This what I was thinking.

For me there is a such thing as too small a grind surface. Or there was. I barely get on the front truck these days.
The smaller truck is good for crooks but not the best for staying balanced and straight. For me.
Wider trucks might piv on the block less? Could be in my head.

I do not like being crooked on top. It's a good way to catch and bang the ass bone on the block. Causing another unwanted body change

[close]

I flip flop thinking I need larger trucks for more room...then I think what do I need more room for, exactly? As I tend to slide around way more on larger trucks (149+) and smaller trucks lock-in better.

Expand Quote
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If you haven't already, swap out the top washer for a flat one (the hanger binds on the stock one if you ride loose enough) or go bones top stock bottom.
[close]

Been considering the flat washers. Do they affect the durability of the top bushings? I understood it's difficult to find replacements and so far I like the stock bushings.
[close]

Nope, no downside to a flat top washer. Honestly the idea of washers are supposed to work seems very antiquated, especially with harder duro bushings readily available. Cupped washers are supposed to 'stop/restrict' the bushings from bottoming out. It's why I use flat washer all around. FWIW the stock bushings are fine, there are better quality bushings out there they just don't come in PURPLE!

@rocklobster Based on what you've told me, that Opera is a wash my dude. Time to move on.

Ive noticed that I end up in accidental board slide a lot from crooking too hard with smaller trucks. Never a thought on the 5.8 up

Also cupped washers was an upgrade in the 80s. Memory serves correctly my Indy 4s had big flat washers up top
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 20, 2024, 03:54:32 PM
Krooks, for me, are the exception as we ALL get the 'crutch' from locking the wheel/the pinch.


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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 20, 2024, 05:24:11 PM
Krooks, for me, are the exception as we ALL get the 'crutch' from locking the wheel/the pinch.


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i’m terrible at k-grinding. closer on larger ventures, 6.1s felt easier to lock in, the end result wasn’t that different for me.
so yes, agree wider easier for crookeds, but that line resonated with me ‘…i need larger trucks for more room….more room for what exactly….’

i probably skate better on 8” trucks, but….then wider trucks feeeeeeeel good, so there is always that conundrum looming for me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CarcassToss on April 20, 2024, 08:53:54 PM
I learned to crook on 7.5 Venture lows and it's my best generic grind so I dunno if it's really about room and more about riding Ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 20, 2024, 11:04:25 PM
(ahem)….7.62


wish i had good crooked grinds
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Bongwater Mojito on April 22, 2024, 10:39:15 AM
It messes with the geo just a bit as the bottoms are lower, but ACE hard LOWs are amazing in them; as is the stock bottom and a LOW HARD top if you can find one (fixes the washer binding and gets you a snappier back to center since you are doing the dual duro thing).

Read this thread back a bit. I happen to have pretty untouched Indy super soft bushings in my parts box. As the bottoms are same height, could I get the same kind of dual duro effect without losing geometry using Indy 78a bottom and stock top (90a)?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: smg1138 on April 22, 2024, 02:20:43 PM
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If you’re not married to the 7.75 size, I’d just try it.  I rode 8.125’s on 5.6’s a bunch and the axel never stuck out.  The boards tend to be a hair larger, not sure if it’s the measurement points or what…..
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This what I was thinking.

For me there is a such thing as too small a grind surface. Or there was. I barely get on the front truck these days.
The smaller truck is good for crooks but not the best for staying balanced and straight. For me.
Wider trucks might piv on the block less? Could be in my head.

I do not like being crooked on top. It's a good way to catch and bang the ass bone on the block. Causing another unwanted body change

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I flip flop thinking I need larger trucks for more room...then I think what do I need more room for, exactly? As I tend to slide around way more on larger trucks (149+) and smaller trucks lock-in better.

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If you haven't already, swap out the top washer for a flat one (the hanger binds on the stock one if you ride loose enough) or go bones top stock bottom.
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Been considering the flat washers. Do they affect the durability of the top bushings? I understood it's difficult to find replacements and so far I like the stock bushings.
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Nope, no downside to a flat top washer. Honestly the idea of washers are supposed to work seems very antiquated, especially with harder duro bushings readily available. Cupped washers are supposed to 'stop/restrict' the bushings from bottoming out. It's why I use flat washer all around. FWIW the stock bushings are fine, there are better quality bushings out there they just don't come in PURPLE!

@rocklobster Based on what you've told me, that Opera is a wash my dude. Time to move on.

I've been wanting to try flat washers for a while now. Where's a good place to procure some? Do they have to be specifically for truck kingpins or can you just get them at Home Depot?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 22, 2024, 03:51:22 PM
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If you’re not married to the 7.75 size, I’d just try it.  I rode 8.125’s on 5.6’s a bunch and the axel never stuck out.  The boards tend to be a hair larger, not sure if it’s the measurement points or what…..
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This what I was thinking.

For me there is a such thing as too small a grind surface. Or there was. I barely get on the front truck these days.
The smaller truck is good for crooks but not the best for staying balanced and straight. For me.
Wider trucks might piv on the block less? Could be in my head.

I do not like being crooked on top. It's a good way to catch and bang the ass bone on the block. Causing another unwanted body change

[close]

I flip flop thinking I need larger trucks for more room...then I think what do I need more room for, exactly? As I tend to slide around way more on larger trucks (149+) and smaller trucks lock-in better.

Expand Quote
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If you haven't already, swap out the top washer for a flat one (the hanger binds on the stock one if you ride loose enough) or go bones top stock bottom.
[close]

Been considering the flat washers. Do they affect the durability of the top bushings? I understood it's difficult to find replacements and so far I like the stock bushings.
[close]

Nope, no downside to a flat top washer. Honestly the idea of washers are supposed to work seems very antiquated, especially with harder duro bushings readily available. Cupped washers are supposed to 'stop/restrict' the bushings from bottoming out. It's why I use flat washer all around. FWIW the stock bushings are fine, there are better quality bushings out there they just don't come in PURPLE!

@rocklobster Based on what you've told me, that Opera is a wash my dude. Time to move on.
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I've been wanting to try flat washers for a while now. Where's a good place to procure some? Do they have to be specifically for truck kingpins or can you just get them at Home Depot?

Bones washers are great (thin and fit great); home depot will have something. Just bring the bushings you are using and an existing washer to gauge the hole size.