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Title: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 02, 2020, 09:28:47 PM
Always on the grind. whatís up shredders, thinking about copping some venture 5.6 today, the real question is should I go with good ol polished or should I go with some v-lights or v-hollows? I usually run 144 Indy but fuck it I wanna switch it up. Iím probably going to hate my life fucking with the wheelbase and pop feel of switching truck brands but fuck it I wanna support dlx and my last few thunders have been absolute trash. I skate 8.25 quasi or fa/hockey squarish shapes 14-14.25wb right now & Iím use to the indy feel. Any suggestions get at me, shalom.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on January 02, 2020, 09:59:28 PM
I bought some 5.8's and while I don't run them as my truck of choice, they feel great once you replace the top washer with a flat one. comparable to indy with nicer pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on January 02, 2020, 10:33:08 PM
The vlights and vhollows have a forged baseplate which extends the wheelbase more than the casts do. So if you want it to be a little closer to your indys probably just get the standard polished 5.6s unless you want to shave some weight off.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 02, 2020, 11:00:17 PM
Shiiiiit I wish I skated 8 or 8.75 because the new raw kaders fuckin SMACK.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6vt7GhDWQf/?igshid=yng86vgbwrwd

I hope venture is on the come up for real. They been around longer than Iíve been born I think lol but I never see them at a sesh or at the park just indy/ace or thunder bros. Company seems ill to me, and the hangers are HARD  ;D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BL0B on January 02, 2020, 11:12:29 PM
that top bushing looks like shit in the 2nd pic.


almost grabbed some of those the other day online, glad i didn't.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: arrbee on January 03, 2020, 03:18:25 AM
I run those those same quasiís on 5.8ís absolutely love it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Buttfart Rapedick on January 03, 2020, 06:44:07 AM
I've skated 5.6 v-hollows on a couple setups and loved them every time, in fact I like them so much I just got a second pair. They're really light, like 327g which is about the same as a Thunder 149 hollow iirc, and super stable. I always feel like I pop better and more consistently on ventures, too.

I like them best on shorter wb decks. The two that really stood out for me were a 14" wb 8.25" Pennswood "kiddie pool" concave deck and a 14.12" wb 8.28" AH Kanfoush deck. I probably wouldn't recommend using them on like a 14.5"+ wb unless you really like long wheelbase setups but overall they're fantastic trucks.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on January 03, 2020, 08:55:26 AM
New year new you.
I say if your on a short wheelbase deck you should give it a shot. Worst case just throw your indys back on. I would maybe just watch the height difference on whichever one you decide on.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 03, 2020, 08:59:21 AM
Thanks for the feedback gents, I might even Franken a pair of 5.6 raws and 5.6 v-lights with the hollow kingpin to shave weight, but keep the cast baseplate for the pop and wheelbase sake. Iím hyped Iím getting them today at 6pm central. AWAKE.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SneakySecrets on January 03, 2020, 09:30:20 AM
Thanks for the feedback gents, I might even Franken a pair of 5.6 raws and 5.6 v-lights with the hollow kingpin to shave weight, but keep the cast baseplate for the pop and wheelbase sake. Iím hyped Iím getting them today at 6pm central. AWAKE.

Ok sick.  I set an alarm on my phone so I can look up to the sky and know youíre somewhere out there living that AWAKE Venture lifestyle youíve always dreamed of.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: bbk on January 03, 2020, 09:44:58 AM
Thanks for the feedback gents, I might even Franken a pair of 5.6 raws and 5.6 v-lights with the hollow kingpin to shave weight, but keep the cast baseplate for the pop and wheelbase sake. Iím hyped Iím getting them today at 6pm central. AWAKE.
Lol wut? you're buying v-lights becuase of weight/kingpin, but keep cast plates? so you want to hammer both kingpins out and put the hollow one in the cast plates?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on January 03, 2020, 09:53:27 AM
Thanks for the feedback gents, I might even Franken a pair of 5.6 raws and 5.6 v-lights with the hollow kingpin to shave weight, but keep the cast baseplate for the pop and wheelbase sake. Iím hyped Iím getting them today at 6pm central. AWAKE.

cmon. have you even owned a pair of ventures? i know dlx has good marketing but you should be ashamed for typing that unironically
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: stets on January 03, 2020, 10:34:43 AM
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Thanks for the feedback gents, I might even Franken a pair of 5.6 raws and 5.6 v-lights with the hollow kingpin to shave weight, but keep the cast baseplate for the pop and wheelbase sake. Iím hyped Iím getting them today at 6pm central. AWAKE.
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Lol wut? you're buying v-lights becuase of weight/kingpin, but keep cast plates? so you want to hammer both kingpins out and put the hollow one in the cast plates?

I think he's talking about doing this because the V-Lights also have a hollow axel? I was wondering too before realizing it has a hollow kingpin and axel. I did a similar thing with my Thunders, used an old cast baseplate with titanium axel 149's, before they started making the Team Titanium or whatever that comes stock with cast baseplate.

Hey Sadnocomply, if you buy both trucks to frankenstein, buy Thunder hollow replacement kingpins to put in the cast baseplate rather than hammering out the ones from the forged baseplate. Hammering out hollow kingpins is very difficult and can "mushroom" the head of it, making it harder to remove all the way and also rendering it useless for re-use. Probably weakens it too. Installing a brand new hollow kingpin is a better bet!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mr. Stinky on January 03, 2020, 11:39:52 AM
I am also jonesing hard some new trucks and those are topping the list, so thank you for relieving me of the need to start a thread.  I got a Baker 8.125" OG shape for Christmas after riding long/wide boards for ages and set it up with 44s.  Feels a lot more like what I skated as a kid which has unexpectedly brought some tricks back from the deep memory banks, and is just generally a lot easier on these old ass legs; but concave is super mellow and the pop feels a little light with Aces to the point where I can't get up on higher ledges much easier than on a beefy boy/tranny setup.  Hard to feel like I'm really getting the full benefit of a lighter/more compact setup that way.   

The smaller board size has already made a noticeable enough difference on its own just in terms of feeling more controllable, and I don't actually have any 8.25" trucks; 148 Lights and 5.6 V-Lights are looking pretty good.   If I'm just skating flatground and ledge stuff, trying to get some tricks back and lock down the few I already sort of have, what's the big diff between Venture and Thunder?  I know Venture slides on the baseplate like Indy/Ace which is a big plus, and apart from that it's Thunder agility vs. Venture stability, but anything else to consider when picking between the two? All I know is that I can basically see middle age from here and I want my few tricks to pop as much as they can before the first half of my life finishes its trip around the drain and I assume my final form as the curb nuisance/coping slasher we're all destined for if we're lucky. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sharkin on January 03, 2020, 11:50:17 AM
the truck madness has spilled out into a thread for every brand now?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 03, 2020, 12:00:15 PM
that top bushing looks like shit in the 2nd pic.


almost grabbed some of those the other day online, glad i didn't.

Pivots cups are the same way, pretty ghetto - swapped them all out right away, no problems with the metals.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mr. Stinky on January 03, 2020, 12:32:58 PM
For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 03, 2020, 12:38:40 PM
For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.

Letís hope he didnít pick Krux amirite
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 03, 2020, 12:54:47 PM
V-Lites = forged plate - hollow pins, and solid axles

V-Hollows = forged plate - hollow pins and axles
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: art hellman on January 03, 2020, 01:02:14 PM
For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/DpXqHdILXRRDi/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Mr. Stinky on January 03, 2020, 01:57:08 PM
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For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.
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Letís hope he didnít pick Krux amirite

Titan. Our family had to change its last name.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on January 03, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
I'm curious how this wb stuff shakes out. Cast Venture's are looking close to forged Indy's.
Anyone else thinking Venture needs to do a hollow cast version?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on January 03, 2020, 02:09:08 PM
I'm curious how this wb stuff shakes out. Cast Venture's are looking close to forged Indy's.
Anyone else thinking Venture needs to do a hollow cast version?

i think they need to do the 6.1 special editions already. was expecting them this drop but maybe it takes more R&D than i think.

hollow cast would be dope. is it me or does venture not have as many options as indy/thunder?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on January 03, 2020, 02:14:06 PM
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I'm curious how this wb stuff shakes out. Cast Venture's are looking close to forged Indy's.
Anyone else thinking Venture needs to do a hollow cast version?
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i think they need to do the 6.1 special editions already. was expecting them this drop but maybe it takes more R&D than i think.

hollow cast would be dope. is it me or does venture not have as many options as indy/thunder?
nah, they got the parts already, just need to mix-n-match, and make some new SKU's, add a page to the catalog
yep, I agree with fewer options. Didn't they come out with Ti after Indy and Thunder? Red-headed stepchild of DLX/Ermico? At least 2nd to Thunder..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on January 03, 2020, 03:54:03 PM
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For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.
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Letís hope he didnít pick Krux amirite
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Titan. Our family had to change its last name.
Thanks for that huge laugh man. Ugh that Titan axle was a nightmare.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on January 03, 2020, 07:05:19 PM
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For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.
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Letís hope he didnít pick Krux amirite
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Titan. Our family had to change its last name.
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Thanks for that huge laugh man. Ugh that Titan axle was a nightmare.

Shit, I forgot about Titan! Didn't Black Box have Monster or Destroyer trucks at 1 point?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 03, 2020, 07:11:40 PM
I've skated 5.6 v-hollows on a couple setups and loved them every time, in fact I like them so much I just got a second pair. They're really light, like 327g which is about the same as a Thunder 149 hollow iirc, and super stable. I always feel like I pop better and more consistently on ventures, too.

I like them best on shorter wb decks. The two that really stood out for me were a 14" wb 8.25" Pennswood "kiddie pool" concave deck and a 14.12" wb 8.28" AH Kanfoush deck. I probably wouldn't recommend using them on like a 14.5"+ wb unless you really like long wheelbase setups but overall they're fantastic trucks.

I was swapping my ventures between two decks:

Primitive 8.25 x 31.875 x 14"WB
AH: 8.28 x 31.65 x 14.12"WB (same shape as the AH Kanfoush but they have 31.65 and a 31.75 length variation...odd).

The 5.6s feel amazing on the Primitive and like shit to me on the AH, it's either the length of the AH or the length of the tail. My manual point is the best it's ever been on the primitive with ventures and total shit on the AH with ventures; pop is a bit weird tho on the prim, might be the tail length (it's pretty long at 6.875". I thought for sure they'd be fine on that AH tho...so odd, we're talking 0.12" here...but it feels night and day.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on January 03, 2020, 08:52:38 PM
The only truck that matters

The banner ad tells me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Krooked antihero on January 04, 2020, 12:05:37 PM
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For everyone saying it's not that serious, my father was executed by the Contras for choosing the wrong brand of truck.
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Letís hope he didnít pick Krux amirite
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Titan. Our family had to change its last name.
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Thanks for that huge laugh man. Ugh that Titan axle was a nightmare.
Homie got these trucks, he broke that fucking hex head of kingpin first try, being a 13yrs old trying to tighten them up from factory setup😂😂
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on January 13, 2020, 01:11:00 PM
Anybody anxiously waiting for those prod 5.6 titaniums like me or what!!!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Yesterdays-pop on January 13, 2020, 08:18:34 PM
Iím on that vintage venture 5.0 wave
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on January 23, 2020, 06:37:49 AM
Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indyís and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but Iím wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but donít know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on January 23, 2020, 07:02:12 AM
Iím on that vintage venture 5.0 wave

Best wave
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Paperclip20 on January 23, 2020, 07:22:13 AM
Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indyís and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but Iím wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but donít know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8

Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 23, 2020, 07:24:53 AM
that top bushing looks like shit in the 2nd pic.


almost grabbed some of those the other day online, glad i didn't.

yeah I swapped the top for a cracking bones med.

The washer on top cuts into the yoke as well. I recommend  top washer swap

Just wondering if kader the new lion from mt zion who is the hardest in this forest?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 23, 2020, 07:37:07 AM
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Thanks for the feedback gents, I might even Franken a pair of 5.6 raws and 5.6 v-lights with the hollow kingpin to shave weight, but keep the cast baseplate for the pop and wheelbase sake. Iím hyped Iím getting them today at 6pm central. AWAKE.
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Lol wut? you're buying v-lights becuase of weight/kingpin, but keep cast plates? so you want to hammer both kingpins out and put the hollow one in the cast plates?
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I think he's talking about doing this because the V-Lights also have a hollow axel? I was wondering too before realizing it has a hollow kingpin and axel. I did a similar thing with my Thunders, used an old cast baseplate with titanium axel 149's, before they started making the Team Titanium or whatever that comes stock with cast baseplate.

Hey Sadnocomply, if you buy both trucks to frankenstein, buy Thunder hollow replacement kingpins to put in the cast baseplate rather than hammering out the ones from the forged baseplate. Hammering out hollow kingpins is very difficult and can "mushroom" the head of it, making it harder to remove all the way and also rendering it useless for re-use. Probably weakens it too. Installing a brand new hollow kingpin is a better bet!

two machine shops around here helped me with kingpin replacement. They threw it up on the press and even glued the old gk down for me.

I was a machinist before drugs happened and my 3rd? major head injury. So maybe they just pity me but they do it for free.

My auntie Sally was a machinist too. Rip Sally i luv you i miss you.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 23, 2020, 01:27:50 PM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indy’s and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but I’m wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but don’t know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.

I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow (especially considering the price), unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fulfillthedream on January 23, 2020, 01:35:23 PM
damn noticing so many more people riding ventures!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on January 23, 2020, 01:38:09 PM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indyís and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but Iím wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but donít know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh

Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause Iím kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is whatís kinda getting me shook. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on January 23, 2020, 01:58:14 PM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indyís and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but Iím wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but donít know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause Iím kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is whatís kinda getting me shook.

If you are coming from Indy you'll feel the change for sure - I'm riding them on a short (14") WB so I don't notice the extra length and they're already compensating for what I normally feel comfy on. I did NOT like them on a long WB and wouldn't use them on anything longer than 14.25"....even then I'd probably keep to 14" / 14.1" WB on them. A few others have noted how nice the feel on short WB decks.

What's funny is all the talk about this truck, that truck and WB when it seems the average for everyone is hovering around 17.5" axle to axle WB.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: weedgod94 on January 23, 2020, 06:34:46 PM
17.5" axle to axle WB.
this is the blessed measurement
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on January 23, 2020, 06:57:51 PM
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Thanks for the feedback gents, I might even Franken a pair of 5.6 raws and 5.6 v-lights with the hollow kingpin to shave weight, but keep the cast baseplate for the pop and wheelbase sake. Iím hyped Iím getting them today at 6pm central. AWAKE.
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Lol wut? you're buying v-lights becuase of weight/kingpin, but keep cast plates? so you want to hammer both kingpins out and put the hollow one in the cast plates?
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I think he's talking about doing this because the V-Lights also have a hollow axel? I was wondering too before realizing it has a hollow kingpin and axel. I did a similar thing with my Thunders, used an old cast baseplate with titanium axel 149's, before they started making the Team Titanium or whatever that comes stock with cast baseplate.

Hey Sadnocomply, if you buy both trucks to frankenstein, buy Thunder hollow replacement kingpins to put in the cast baseplate rather than hammering out the ones from the forged baseplate. Hammering out hollow kingpins is very difficult and can "mushroom" the head of it, making it harder to remove all the way and also rendering it useless for re-use. Probably weakens it too. Installing a brand new hollow kingpin is a better bet!
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two machine shops around here helped me with kingpin replacement. They threw it up on the press and even glued the old gk down for me.

I was a machinist before drugs happened and my 3rd? major head injury. So maybe they just pity me but they do it for free.

My auntie Sally was a machinist too. Rip Sally i luv you i miss you.
If you wanna press out a hollow kingpin you could put an acorn/cap nut on it.
Any hardware store should stock it, 3/8"-24
https://www.mcmaster.com/91875a155


Machine shop.. spindle oil is made for high speed bearings..
You want thinner for cold weather, ISO 2 or ISO 5.
ISO 10 is thickest and I'm guessing it's around the viscosity of most bearing lubes.


edit: lol. brain fart..
As an Indy dude the Venture casts look interesting to me.
Height and wb offset is similar to Indy forged?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on January 24, 2020, 02:44:19 AM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indyís and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but Iím wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but donít know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
[close]

I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause Iím kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is whatís kinda getting me shook.
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If you are coming from Indy you'll feel the change for sure - I'm riding them on a short (14") WB so I don't notice the extra length and they're already compensating for what I normally feel comfy on. I did NOT like them on a long WB and wouldn't use them on anything longer than 14.25"....even then I'd probably keep to 14" / 14.1" WB on them. A few others have noted how nice the feel on short WB decks.

What's funny is all the talk about this truck, that truck and WB when it seems the average for everyone is hovering around 17.5" axle to axle WB.

completely agree. shit gets weird with ventures and a 14.38 wb.

logged all my axle to axle wb findings and found 17.5-17.63 was the best all round a2a wb for me at least. once i hit 17.75+, things felt boaty. 17.38 felt short for my long ass legs but would be the lowest id work with. keeping my cast ventures around for that blue moon when i pick up a 14.125 wb to give me a 17.5 a2a off the rip.

ventures really give me the confidence to try deck wheelbases that scare me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Dad you're embarrassing me on January 25, 2020, 01:38:29 PM
Saw a dude shredding the bowl last night on ventures. He had them wobble loose with no washers. Said heíd just swapped from Indies and was loving them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on January 25, 2020, 06:45:58 PM
Saw a dude shredding the bowl last night on ventures. He had them wobble loose with no washers. Said heíd just swapped from Indies and was loving them.

This is the kinda info I'm here for
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on January 25, 2020, 06:48:51 PM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indyís and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but Iím wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but donít know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause Iím kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is whatís kinda getting me shook.
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If you are coming from Indy you'll feel the change for sure - I'm riding them on a short (14") WB so I don't notice the extra length and they're already compensating for what I normally feel comfy on. I did NOT like them on a long WB and wouldn't use them on anything longer than 14.25"....even then I'd probably keep to 14" / 14.1" WB on them. A few others have noted how nice the feel on short WB decks.

What's funny is all the talk about this truck, that truck and WB when it seems the average for everyone is hovering around 17.5" axle to axle WB.
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completely agree. shit gets weird with ventures and a 14.38 wb.

logged all my axle to axle wb findings and found 17.5-17.63 was the best all round a2a wb for me at least. once i hit 17.75+, things felt boaty. 17.38 felt short for my long ass legs but would be the lowest id work with. keeping my cast ventures around for that blue moon when i pick up a 14.125 wb to give me a 17.5 a2a off the rip.

ventures really give me the confidence to try deck wheelbases that scare me
what was wrong with the 14.38wb and cast ventures? Isnít that withn your 17.63Ē a2a range? Messed up manual point? Boaty? Just curious, not extra stability? Like a longer wb on indys feels how different than a short wb on venture even though they even out. Fingers of flat.. kick steepness.. that variable removes if possible even tho itís not
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on January 25, 2020, 07:37:48 PM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indyís and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but Iím wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but donít know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause Iím kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is whatís kinda getting me shook.
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If you are coming from Indy you'll feel the change for sure - I'm riding them on a short (14") WB so I don't notice the extra length and they're already compensating for what I normally feel comfy on. I did NOT like them on a long WB and wouldn't use them on anything longer than 14.25"....even then I'd probably keep to 14" / 14.1" WB on them. A few others have noted how nice the feel on short WB decks.

What's funny is all the talk about this truck, that truck and WB when it seems the average for everyone is hovering around 17.5" axle to axle WB.
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completely agree. shit gets weird with ventures and a 14.38 wb.

logged all my axle to axle wb findings and found 17.5-17.63 was the best all round a2a wb for me at least. once i hit 17.75+, things felt boaty. 17.38 felt short for my long ass legs but would be the lowest id work with. keeping my cast ventures around for that blue moon when i pick up a 14.125 wb to give me a 17.5 a2a off the rip.

ventures really give me the confidence to try deck wheelbases that scare me
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what was wrong with the 14.38wb and cast ventures? Isnít that withn your 17.63Ē a2a range? Messed up manual point? Boaty? Just curious, not extra stability? Like a longer wb on indys feels how different than a short wb on venture even though they even out. Fingers of flat.. kick steepness.. that variable removes if possible even tho itís not

if i remember correctly, the measurement i was getting was 17.75 from axle to axle, not 17.63.
i marked venture 6.1s as adding 3.375 to the wb. i found that with the weight and geometry of the truck, i lost the snappy pop feel past a 14.25 deck wb. i also lost my manual point and any trick i popped had to really be snapped down to get average results. rotational tricks moved noticeably slower, like turning a boat. venture stability has been a non factor to me ever since i put a deckside barrel bushing in a thunder.

i know the measurement could be off by human error but it really felt like the trucks were just a little further back. that on top of the weight difference between 6.1s and what im used to didnt work on a 14.38. luckily for me i didnt have to bear with something i know i didnt like. threw the ventures on a 14 wb, something i would honestly never step on outside of experimentation, and i honestly could have skated the deck to the ground if i was desperate. then tried them on a beat up 14.25, razortailed to shit, and could still get shit off like it had life in it. put my thunder forged on the 14.38 and it was back to its the responsive self. ventures have shined for me on the >14.25 deck wheelbases. not saying bigger wheelbases and ventures cant work for anyone else of course, its just not agile enough for my liking.

"Like a longer wb on indys feels how different than a short wb on venture even though they even out."

i think i know exactly what your saying but ill put my point out there to clarify. there are a ton of ways to get a 17.5 axle to axle wb on a deck. if the truck is literally not the same truck, there will be no way to completely get one truck to behave like another. every truck will have different characteristics and to try and compare them exactly to another will drive you crazy. with the amount of outside factors, i can firmly say its impossible without a fuckton of constants and computer measurements. youd be better off leaving that to someone with the time and resources to do it, i.e. the professor. it did so much to help my madness by finding my truck of choice and tweaking the small issues when possible. take the journey to find that truck if you havent already. cost me $260 short term, but at least i kicked the urge to try every new truck and just progress on one.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 25, 2020, 08:26:56 PM
damn noticing so many more people riding ventures!

venture and ace is the way. But most people will not like the change and they will think can i trade these for thunders if i hit up dlx? Hmmm.

I been hyped on my homies thunder teams today. I cleaned them up nice and I was doing long g turns before the rain started. They're so low and i got them on a flat 8.5. I dont know what bearings he got. They're odd. They got like a little step on the side of the inner race. And the outside looks blackened. Same black cages as reds. I was thinking maybe neal? There nice and fast.

Tons of fun easy manny set up.

Wheel bite is crazy though. Dude has black bones meds no washers. I dont like bones bottoms anymore.

I turned 21 on thunder teams for 7.5-7.75 i dont remember getting that much wheel bite at all. thats the truck i rode most of my life. I lost the green bushings i shaved down on like the 3rd set.

Im more stoked on ace and venture today though. And indy 139s

I am so stoned out f my mind rn i dont remember writing this. My whole body is goose bumps listening to the Melvins. Petting my cats

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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on January 25, 2020, 09:13:36 PM
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17.5" axle to axle WB.
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this is the blessed measurement


im try
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17.5" axle to axle WB.
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this is the blessed measurement

im tryna get closer to 17.
I have never landed a switch tre. This is my year.

Also nollie crooks. If i can nollie crook the flat bar by my 42 birthday ill freak.

I haven't nollied into a front truck trick since 2002. Hmmm mini ramp and crurbs aside

This is my year. Im going to try and jump down something. Im scared of broken tails and alligator bite.

That shit sucks.

The ledge is my conduit to nirvana
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fang on February 01, 2020, 05:36:42 PM
Just bought some Venture low 5.25s. Rode venture during bpsw era and during the stage 9 Indys because I hated those. As previously stated, my best skating (trick wise) was on ventures, yet I always liked the feel of Indys. Decided as my aging decline continues, I want to have that great venture stability under my bad ankles. And enjoy flip tricks as well. Pretty excited , once my ankle heals.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: passtheish on February 01, 2020, 08:21:12 PM
Shiiiiit I wish I skated 8 or 8.75 because the new raw kaders fuckin SMACK.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6vt7GhDWQf/?igshid=yng86vgbwrwd

I hope venture is on the come up for real. They been around longer than Iíve been born I think lol but I never see them at a sesh or at the park just indy/ace or thunder bros. Company seems ill to me, and the hangers are HARD  ;D

I got the 6.1 version of these, First pair of Ventures ever, loving them so far
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on February 01, 2020, 10:01:46 PM
repost from the truck thread but the last part fits here

my theory with venture's resurgence is the stark contrast to indy. independent is the most popular truck company with diehard fans/customers. give those customers reasons to try other shit (moving to china, pros leaving, nhs spongebob collabs) and brand loyalty loosens up a bit. give those same customers trucks that are bizarro indys performance wise, pick up bobby fucking worrest, and tell those people that they are "awake" from their purchase? dlx did a marketing masterclass with perfect timing

unsurprisingly, its another dlx company that i fuck with. its a shame i like venture as a company more than how the trucks feel, but i will always back truck cos that go against the "fuck the rest" circlejerk.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 02, 2020, 05:57:25 AM
Just bought some Venture low 5.25s. Rode venture during bpsw era and during the stage 9 Indys because I hated those. As previously stated, my best skating (trick wise) was on ventures, yet I always liked the feel of Indys. Decided as my aging decline continues, I want to have that great venture stability under my bad ankles. And enjoy flip tricks as well. Pretty excited , once my ankle heals.

Cast or hollow? Kinda wish they made some hollow/cast plate combo. 5.25 loís the best tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fang on February 02, 2020, 06:59:24 AM
Cast. I'm psyched. Rehabbing my foot so hopefully a few weeks. Also, the "quick pop response" of a low truck, is something I've missed.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: passtheish on February 02, 2020, 10:42:02 AM
repost from the truck thread but the last part fits here

my theory with venture's resurgence is the stark contrast to indy. independent is the most popular truck company with diehard fans/customers. give those customers reasons to try other shit (moving to china, pros leaving, nhs spongebob collabs) and brand loyalty loosens up a bit. give those same customers trucks that are bizarro indys performance wise, pick up bobby fucking worrest, and tell those people that they are "awake" from their purchase? dlx did a marketing masterclass with perfect timing

unsurprisingly, its another dlx company that i fuck with. its a shame i like venture as a company more than how the trucks feel, but i will always back truck cos that go against the "fuck the rest" circlejerk.

Agreed, that's how they got me to switch to them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 02, 2020, 12:39:21 PM
Cast. I'm psyched. Rehabbing my foot so hopefully a few weeks. Also, the "quick pop response" of a low truck, is something I've missed.

Regular cast trucks are the best, I need to quit tempting myself on bullshit. Set it and forget it. Easier said than done, but.....putting trucks on and not fucking with them is also pretty lazy so imma try and use my laziness to my advantage.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ballintoohard on February 02, 2020, 07:48:54 PM
The fact that they don't ship with a flat washer and instead use a big curved one that digs into the hanger just shows how dogshit the engineering is. I like them in a straight line, but I shouldn't have to turn my setup into a science experiment to get it to turn how I want. Don't have to do it with any other brand, not even bushings.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Skart on February 02, 2020, 07:55:39 PM
Post a clip of you turning how you want

Guaranteed goofy and unnecessary
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on February 02, 2020, 09:33:47 PM
Found him...
https://youtu.be/4sxNcgA5LpI
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: white guy in a durag on February 02, 2020, 10:42:12 PM
Ace riders be like
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 03, 2020, 01:05:54 AM
I have been a strict Indy pawn for over a decade now. Been thinking about getting a set of ventures lately to try out though. I had a set yeeeaaaars ago and remembered them being alright but it's been so long that I'm curious to try em again, I kinda forget how it felt to skate them.
Been on the fence about it but earlier today I was out running errands and I had an Indy shirt and some kid said to me as I was waiting in line at the store "dude isn't that some sort of Nazi logo or something?" and just like that I thought "welp that's a sign, time to give the ventures a try". Going to go buy a set tomorrow. Will report back how I like em. After skating Indy for so long I'm curious to see how this goes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 03, 2020, 05:53:42 AM
Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Hi - anyone know how much it shifts the WB?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 03, 2020, 08:26:43 AM
Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Hi - anyone know how much it shifts the WB?

The perfect amount
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The perfect amount

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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on February 03, 2020, 11:09:07 AM
Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Hi - anyone know how much it shifts the WB?

I think V-hollows have forged plates which would make them about +3.5 according to most, though when I measured mine it was just a hair under 3.5, more like 3.4something.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Agnarnomous on February 03, 2020, 12:02:01 PM
Shiiiiit I wish I skated 8 or 8.75 because the new raw kaders fuckin SMACK.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6vt7GhDWQf/?igshid=yng86vgbwrwd

I hope venture is on the come up for real. They been around longer than Iíve been born I think lol but I never see them at a sesh or at the park just indy/ace or thunder bros. Company seems ill to me, and the hangers are HARD  ;D

Ventures have only really fallen out of relevance in the past 10 years or so. They were top dogs for a while. At least for street dudes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 03, 2020, 06:11:47 PM
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Shiiiiit I wish I skated 8 or 8.75 because the new raw kaders fuckin SMACK.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6vt7GhDWQf/?igshid=yng86vgbwrwd

I hope venture is on the come up for real. They been around longer than Iíve been born I think lol but I never see them at a sesh or at the park just indy/ace or thunder bros. Company seems ill to me, and the hangers are HARD  ;D
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Ventures have only really fallen out of relevance in the past 10 years or so. They were top dogs for a while. At least for street dudes.

idk. Thunder started with Jesse Martinez. Had natas too i think.

It all came from indy anyway. Ace is like the same story
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TheLowerBack on February 03, 2020, 07:56:07 PM
Does anyone know which risers fit with no overhang?
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Post by: Xen on February 03, 2020, 08:08:23 PM
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Shiiiiit I wish I skated 8 or 8.75 because the new raw kaders fuckin SMACK.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6vt7GhDWQf/?igshid=yng86vgbwrwd

I hope venture is on the come up for real. They been around longer than Iíve been born I think lol but I never see them at a sesh or at the park just indy/ace or thunder bros. Company seems ill to me, and the hangers are HARD  ;D
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Ventures have only really fallen out of relevance in the past 10 years or so. They were top dogs for a while. At least for street dudes.
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idk. Thunder started with Jesse Martinez. Had natas too i think.

It all came from indy anyway. Ace is like the same story

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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on February 03, 2020, 08:30:56 PM
Does anyone know which risers fit with no overhang?
🍀 lucky always fit pretty much flush.
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Post by: TheLowerBack on February 03, 2020, 08:47:47 PM
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🍀 lucky always fit pretty much flush.
Damn, is that still a thing?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on February 03, 2020, 08:57:11 PM
https://skateboarding.transworld.net/news/venture-adventures-of-an-aluminum-upstart/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oldbummer on February 03, 2020, 09:13:23 PM
Does anyone know which risers fit with no overhang?

Thunder risers are slotted and the exact size as the footprint of the baseplate.  Indy risers have holes, and line up perfectly on the picot cup end of the baseplate, baseplate overhangs a little on the other side.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on February 03, 2020, 11:53:38 PM
Does anyone know which risers fit with no overhang?
krooked risers have fit my thunders, ventures, aces, and indys.

im pretty sure slotted risers have the best compatibility for every truck
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 04, 2020, 12:28:24 AM
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Officially traded the cross for the V, well, for now at least. Snagged these earlier. Swapped the stock bushings out right off the bat for some black aftermarkets I had laying around. Haven't gotten a chance to give em a test run yet, probably won't for a few days actually, gonna be a bit busy. Will report back how I like em when I get a chance to test em out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Agnarnomous on February 04, 2020, 05:16:09 AM
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Shiiiiit I wish I skated 8 or 8.75 because the new raw kaders fuckin SMACK.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6vt7GhDWQf/?igshid=yng86vgbwrwd

I hope venture is on the come up for real. They been around longer than Iíve been born I think lol but I never see them at a sesh or at the park just indy/ace or thunder bros. Company seems ill to me, and the hangers are HARD  ;D
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Ventures have only really fallen out of relevance in the past 10 years or so. They were top dogs for a while. At least for street dudes.
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idk. Thunder started with Jesse Martinez. Had natas too i think.

It all came from indy anyway. Ace is like the same story
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https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/magazine/september-1986/?tmpl=component

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Sick fucking find dude.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Agnarnomous on February 04, 2020, 05:19:26 AM
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krooked risers have fit my thunders, ventures, aces, and indys.

im pretty sure slotted risers have the best compatibility for every truck

I get the soft rubber ones and cut them to be juuuuuuuust slightly shorter than my baseplates. So they don't grip on nose/tail slides. I also like that you can squish them a little, making them a little shorter. Idk, I've got a touch of ocd.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 04, 2020, 06:18:54 AM
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Shiiiiit I wish I skated 8 or 8.75 because the new raw kaders fuckin SMACK.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B6vt7GhDWQf/?igshid=yng86vgbwrwd

I hope venture is on the come up for real. They been around longer than Iíve been born I think lol but I never see them at a sesh or at the park just indy/ace or thunder bros. Company seems ill to me, and the hangers are HARD  ;D
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Ventures have only really fallen out of relevance in the past 10 years or so. They were top dogs for a while. At least for street dudes.
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idk. Thunder started with Jesse Martinez. Had natas too i think.

It all came from indy anyway. Ace is like the same story
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https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/magazine/september-1986/?tmpl=component

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(https://noneco.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/gonzventurechrome.jpg)

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i just barely remember this. Nice dig. That was the year i gave up my bike pretty much
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fang on February 05, 2020, 05:56:23 AM
P.s. they should be making the original Awake logo on shirts, hoodies, hats, beanies, sweatpants, patches, fanny packs, socks, etc. At all times
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on February 05, 2020, 06:23:30 AM
P.s. they should be making the original Awake logo on shirts, hoodies, hats, beanies, sweatpants, patches, fanny packs, socks, etc. At all times
I agree but snowflakes here were dissing it. Apparently sounds too much like Woke for them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 05, 2020, 08:38:24 AM
https://youtu.be/aUlCl2a4zuw
Skate TV Venture factory.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 05, 2020, 08:46:52 AM
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P.s. they should be making the original Awake logo on shirts, hoodies, hats, beanies, sweatpants, patches, fanny packs, socks, etc. At all times
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I agree but snowflakes here were dissing it. Apparently sounds too much like Woke for them.

Venture, ahead of it's time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: passtheish on February 05, 2020, 10:40:17 AM
just got the Kader 6.1s and love them so far, but thinking of switching the bushings.
Any recommendations on what bushings to get
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 05, 2020, 10:43:52 AM
just got the Kader 6.1s and love them so far, but thinking of switching the bushings.
Any recommendations on what bushings to get
What don't you love about them stock?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 05, 2020, 08:41:43 PM
https://youtu.be/aUlCl2a4zuw
Skate TV Venture factory.

i loved this show. Venture-pendent

Skated the birds nest for a few mins. Felt good. I can still do figure 8s switch carving np.
Grinding pool coping is ok. Ace is better for that same with indy.

The stock barrels really really dont like cold weather. Bones tops are the move for cold weather. I was falling off pushing switch with the frozen stock.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 05, 2020, 11:01:43 PM
Post a clip of you turning how you want

Guaranteed goofy and unnecessary

So good
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 08, 2020, 01:44:44 PM
Venture has a Thrasher collab dropping soon. Trucks and hoodies.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: passtheish on February 08, 2020, 02:46:11 PM
Venture has a Thrasher collab dropping soon. Trucks and hoodies.

Hyped for this to come out , it looks sick
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 08, 2020, 03:30:50 PM
Venture has a Thrasher collab dropping soon. Trucks and hoodies.
so what does it look like?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 08, 2020, 04:08:50 PM
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Venture has a Thrasher collab dropping soon. Trucks and hoodies.
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so what does it look like?
Thrasher logo, the A is replaced with Venture V wing logo. Awake written underneath. Wasnít able to get a photo.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on February 08, 2020, 05:14:56 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8UIOLehigS/?igshid=iasecme5duw
I just want titaniums in 5.6, these need to be available asap
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 08, 2020, 05:26:47 PM
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Venture has a Thrasher collab dropping soon. Trucks and hoodies.
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so what does it look like?
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Thrasher logo, the A is replaced with Venture V wing logo. Awake written underneath. Wasnít able to get a photo.
Thank you for this info..I need this hoodie in my life.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fang on February 08, 2020, 06:19:07 PM
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Venture has a Thrasher collab dropping soon. Trucks and hoodies.
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so what does it look like?
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Thrasher logo, the A is replaced with Venture V wing logo. Awake written underneath. Wasnít able to get a photo.

Sounds good
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 09, 2020, 10:35:42 AM
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Venture has a Thrasher collab dropping soon. Trucks and hoodies.
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so what does it look like?
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Thrasher logo, the A is replaced with Venture V wing logo. Awake written underneath. Wasn’t able to get a photo.

that sounds pretty cool.

I would use chrome fill.
Blue sky gradient
Put a the golden gate buildings trees etc in the ctr as black skyline
Maybe put a little details in the earth side gradient

Inside outline to raise up the fill

Piano key drop down single point perspective 3d

The red V logo of put it on top with drips maybe little tiger striping like the piece got capped by venture.

awake font catching the drips turning into an outer of the same color

All 3d points in awake to the fill horizon line. Catching the drips waterfalling the negative space in awake

Put the wings on both ends like extending the piece maybe

Or put them on the V follow the throw up look


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 11, 2020, 09:09:49 AM
Had my first actual sesh with them yesterday. Loved em. Turning felt so different from the Indys but I got used to it pretty quickly. Liked the difference in wheelbase too and how popping the tail feels a tad bit heavier and delayed with these, makes the tail feel more solid especially since the shape I like has a flatter tail, Indys made hitting the tail feel too light and too quick and flimsy for me sometimes. With Indys sometimes it was like I was skating a deck with an already cracked tail. Also relearned front 5-0s too, haven't done one of those in a couple years.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 11, 2020, 09:37:23 AM
Had my first actual sesh with them yesterday. Loved em. Turning felt so different from the Indys but I got used to it pretty quickly. Liked the difference in wheelbase too and how popping the tail feels a tad bit heavier and delayed with these, makes the tail feel more solid especially since the shape I like has a flatter tail, Indys made hitting the tail feel too light and too quick and flimsy for me sometimes. With Indys sometimes it was like I was skating a deck with an already cracked tail. Also relearned front 5-0s too, haven't done one of those in a couple years.

Which ones were you riding? Kind of regret getting too many of the Hollow Light variants since they extend the WB out drastically (3.5"), would have liked a smaller WB extension like Thunders with the baseplate of Indy / Venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 11, 2020, 09:54:46 PM
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Had my first actual sesh with them yesterday. Loved em. Turning felt so different from the Indys but I got used to it pretty quickly. Liked the difference in wheelbase too and how popping the tail feels a tad bit heavier and delayed with these, makes the tail feel more solid especially since the shape I like has a flatter tail, Indys made hitting the tail feel too light and too quick and flimsy for me sometimes. With Indys sometimes it was like I was skating a deck with an already cracked tail. Also relearned front 5-0s too, haven't done one of those in a couple years.
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Which ones were you riding? Kind of regret getting too many of the Hollow Light variants since they extend the WB out drastically (3.5"), would have liked a smaller WB extension like Thunders with the baseplate of Indy / Venture.
Skating the 5.8 worrest models
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on February 13, 2020, 01:33:47 PM
so, hope this is the right thread, since i'm new to this...

current setups Ė got two, since work + wife are in different countrys Ė are 8.25 FA decks with indys, one is with 149 forged hollows (on a 14.8 wb) and i'm really happy with that, the other got 144 standards on it (on a 14.12). i really prefer the lower height and lighter weight of the forged hollows, get quite a bit of ghost pop on the standard ones just after switching boards and it's just more work to get on ledges. maybe this isn't just because of the weight/height, but also because the standard ones are on a much shorter wheelbase, but i really don't have any knowledge regarding this, just feeling.
since i heard a ton of good stuff about venture his, i'm thinking about trying their hollow ones, i never got the chance to really try them (almost all thunder around here), so any input is much appreciated. especially since i'm planning on going down in board sizes (to 8.12 or 8 ) and the shapes i like have some short wheelbases. also, ventures are a lot cheaper in europe...

thanks already. if this is the wrong thread, just tell me to f_ off and i'll head out.

edit: since the wb-thing seemed fishy to me, i measured it for the first time myself, not trusting the shop measurements anymore and they are both 14.12.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on February 13, 2020, 05:27:19 PM
I would say anything 14-14.38 would be a good wheelbase with venture depending on preference of course. Any higher than that would be crazy long! I have every model of venture except the hollows but Iím sure they are great. Been banging raw ventures and titaniums in my 2 current setups. Iím also on 8-8.25 like you so venture is great trust me :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 13, 2020, 06:23:59 PM
I recommend people go more wood than aluminum though. Unless you're going low.

I have a new 8.25 I'm landing on my rail a bunch. Was happening with impossible and Tre at first but I'm used to the truck change there. Kickflips switch flips and fs shuv flips are punishing my feets.
When I was on an 38 and an 8.5 on the 5.6 when I landed on my rail it was easier to put down or it would automatically snap down on its own.

Because of the lack of wheel bite with this truck more wood is good. I can ride the 55 classic with the truck loose all the way with the stock purple barrels in and they fine.

Thinking I maybe going to ad more speed rings to protect the axles from all this primo slide bull shit.

I'm going to die on black top soon watch. I'm going to kick flip up a curb because that's when its happened most at high speed and that will be it.

Knock all my chicklets out again on a curb.

Next board I'm gonna look for something really classy to eat shit on.

I want to try Marc's stuff but I suck at new mail. I miss send the money get the boards days.

I wonder what happens to the rest of my checks. There's no way that I'm spending 800 a month.

They want me buying videogames and junk food so when the system reaches out to snatch me up I can't bomb a hill and wave good bye.

Or the Fuckers just jealous I can still flip my board and go anywhere I want any time or some shit.

Total fucking kook working for the system definitely not awake.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on February 14, 2020, 01:31:34 AM
I would say anything 14-14.38 would be a good wheelbase with venture depending on preference of course. Any higher than that would be crazy long! I have every model of venture except the hollows but Iím sure they are great. Been banging raw ventures and titaniums in my 2 current setups. Iím also on 8-8.25 like you so venture is great trust me :)

thanks for the input. do you go with 5.2s or 5.6s under a 8-8.25? or do you have both?
leaning towards trying deck flush with/wider than trucks these days...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cricketclub on February 14, 2020, 08:17:55 AM
I set up my 5.2 lows last night and loved them! I was in a rush so didn't switch to my new 50mm's but I will for the next sessions for sure to prevent wheelbite (skated on some mid life 52's last night so probably not too much difference).

I was on indy high's before.

There is definitely a trade off between the two. Less turning and better flip tricks. I think I'm okay with that. I wouldn't really wanna bomb a parking garage with these just yet. The manual point is amaaaaaazing on these.

I need to get an 8" deck for these, right now I'm skating an 8.25 on them and it's a little weird but definitely manageable.

Also the wheelbase difference worked out well. I'm on the same deck that I had with my indy's (deck has a 14.25 WB) and it was just fine. Seemed right. I don't think I will look for 14" WB's like I thought I would want to.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on February 14, 2020, 08:19:26 AM
Wellllll, guess Iím buying lows for the first time since 2003.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: cricketclub on February 14, 2020, 08:21:26 AM
Wellllll, guess Iím buying lows for the first time since 2003.

Hahaha literally I just told my friends it felt like 2003! It's a great feeling. Be prepared for less turn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 14, 2020, 08:27:49 AM
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Wellllll, guess Iím buying lows for the first time since 2003.
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Hahaha literally I just told my friends it felt like 2003! It's a great feeling. Be prepared for less turn.

Kind of regret getting 2 pairs in forged plates V- Hollow since they extend the WB so much (3.5") versus Thunders. I like the WB of Thunders at 3.25" but I'm not a fan of the baseplate position; I suck at nose / tailslides and need all the help I can get with them. I have a pair of 5.8 I got off the Zumiez sale in cast plates, now I'm looking to add a 5.2 or 5.6 to that collection.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on February 14, 2020, 08:38:46 AM
What are the pros cons of low v high?

I gotta stop coming to this thread. I already keep going back and forth with standard or Ti etc. so itís delaying my purchase ha. Leaning towards standard hiís
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on February 14, 2020, 08:44:11 AM
I set up my 5.2 lows last night and loved them! I was in a rush so didn't switch to my new 50mm's but I will for the next sessions for sure to prevent wheelbite (skated on some mid life 52's last night so probably not too much difference).

I was on indy high's before.

There is definitely a trade off between the two. Less turning and better flip tricks. I think I'm okay with that. I wouldn't really wanna bomb a parking garage with these just yet. The manual point is amaaaaaazing on these.

I need to get an 8" deck for these, right now I'm skating an 8.25 on them and it's a little weird but definitely manageable.

Also the wheelbase difference worked out well. I'm on the same deck that I had with my indy's (deck has a 14.25 WB) and it was just fine. Seemed right. I don't think I will look for 14" WB's like I thought I would want to.

5.25 loís are the truth. Mine are forged hollows, but Iím going to switch a cast plate on. You are limited,  by the wheel diameter, to the depth of your turning, but itís not as bad as I would have thought. Flip tricks feel correct. If you want to make them more squirrely, bones hardcore bushings work well, or at least the top flat washer. I skate mine with wheels 52 to 49 ish, and thatís the big trade off. You can go ditch riding or crusty street hill bombing, but itís more of an adventure for sure.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on February 14, 2020, 09:37:16 AM
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I would say anything 14-14.38 would be a good wheelbase with venture depending on preference of course. Any higher than that would be crazy long! I have every model of venture except the hollows but Iím sure they are great. Been banging raw ventures and titaniums in my 2 current setups. Iím also on 8-8.25 like you so venture is great trust me :)
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thanks for the input. do you go with 5.2s or 5.6s under a 8-8.25? or do you have both?
leaning towards trying deck flush with/wider than trucks these days...
I have 5.2 titaniums on a 8.1, 5.6 raw on a 8.25 and I even have a 5.8 v light on a 8.3 so I literally have all spectrums covered. Great trucks for everything! I skate hills, parks, street, bowls, you name it. I also try not to mess with stock bushings and I ride factory tightness for a couple weeks and my ventures seem to jiggle loosely just fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 14, 2020, 09:48:29 AM
What are the pros cons of low v high?

I gotta stop coming to this thread. I already keep going back and forth with standard or Ti etc. so itís delaying my purchase ha. Leaning towards standard hiís

To me it depends on how you pop. I'm heavy on my back foot and pop down hard on my tail; having low trucks makes me feel like my tail is bottoming out too early, if that makes any sense. Lows are at 48.3mm, Highs are at 53.5mm. I think Thunders 147 are also around 49-50mm, Tactics doesn't have a pair for sale so the height isn't listed.

Even if you go Low you can always correct this with risers, so I feel it gives you slightly more versatility.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on February 14, 2020, 09:59:53 AM
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Wellllll, guess Iím buying lows for the first time since 2003.
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Hahaha literally I just told my friends it felt like 2003! It's a great feeling. Be prepared for less turn.
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Kind of regret getting 2 pairs in forged plates V- Hollow since they extend the WB so much (3.5") versus Thunders. I like the WB of Thunders at 3.25" but I'm not a fan of the baseplate position; I suck at nose / tailslides and need all the help I can get with them. I have a pair of 5.8 I got off the Zumiez sale in cast plates, now I'm looking to add a 5.2 or 5.6 to that collection.
It's REALLY not that bad. I have regular venture highs on my big board and hollows on my other one, I can't tell a difference.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on February 15, 2020, 03:13:01 AM
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What are the pros cons of low v high?

I gotta stop coming to this thread. I already keep going back and forth with standard or Ti etc. so itís delaying my purchase ha. Leaning towards standard hiís
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To me it depends on how you pop. I'm heavy on my back foot and pop down hard on my tail; having low trucks makes me feel like my tail is bottoming out too early, if that makes any sense. Lows are at 48.3mm, Highs are at 53.5mm. I think Thunders 147 are also around 49-50mm, Tactics doesn't have a pair for sale so the height isn't listed.

Even if you go Low you can always correct this with risers, so I feel it gives you slightly more versatility.

thats excactly how i felt when i switched from indys to my old destructos (49mm) just for fun, like just pushing into the ground with my back foot and the nose not coming up enough.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on February 15, 2020, 09:17:52 AM
Which ventures have the least amount of impact to wheel base or are they all the same?
Just curious
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 15, 2020, 09:58:38 AM
Which ventures have the least amount of impact to wheel base or are they all the same?
Just curious
think the cast only like + ~3.25Ē   Forged get the most
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on February 15, 2020, 10:56:30 AM
Alright, currently on thunders so I wouldnít want to deviate too far front that wheelbase
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 15, 2020, 11:01:34 AM
Alright, currently on thunders so I wouldn’t want to deviate too far front that wheelbase
check the wb for your trucks thread. Pretty damn close close depending on standard or forged

Thunder 149 team edition (8.5" axle):
+ 3.1875"
Thunder Hollow Lights 151 (8.75" axle):
+ 3.25"
Venture standard 5.8 (8.5" axle):
+ 3.25"
Venture 6.1 (8.75" axle):
+ 3.125”
Venture Lights 5.8 (8.5" axle):
+ 3.5"
Venture 5.8 Titanium (8.5" axle):
+ 3.4375
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on February 15, 2020, 01:28:21 PM
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Alright, currently on thunders so I wouldnít want to deviate too far front that wheelbase
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check the wb for your trucks thread. Pretty damn close close depending on standard or forged

Thunder 149 team edition (8.5" axle):
+ 3.1875"
Thunder Hollow Lights 151 (8.75" axle):
+ 3.25"
Venture standard 5.8 (8.5" axle):
+ 3.25"
Venture 6.1 (8.75" axle):
+ 3.125Ē
Venture Lights 5.8 (8.5" axle):
+ 3.5"
Venture 5.8 Titanium (8.5" axle):
+ 3.4375
You sir are the man.
Iím currently on the 8.25 team hollows but I assume thereís not too much variation.
So if Iím on the team hollows now the standards shouldnít be too bad.
I have a feeling my tax refund is going to justify me trying a pair
Thank you
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Smartass on February 15, 2020, 03:20:37 PM
For the folks moving from Indy to Venutre, definitely recommend getting some Riptide pivot cups. I skated mine stock for a while and they still felt good but the Turn didn't feel that good. Switching to the riptides made them turn so much better.

Did another comparison with my buddies who are stock vs mine and he agrees that the Riptides make a big difference.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on February 15, 2020, 03:45:44 PM
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Alright, currently on thunders so I wouldnít want to deviate too far front that wheelbase
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check the wb for your trucks thread. Pretty damn close close depending on standard or forged

Thunder 149 team edition (8.5" axle):
+ 3.1875"
Thunder Hollow Lights 151 (8.75" axle):
+ 3.25"
Venture standard 5.8 (8.5" axle):
+ 3.25"
Venture 6.1 (8.75" axle):
+ 3.125Ē
Venture Lights 5.8 (8.5" axle):
+ 3.5"
Venture 5.8 Titanium (8.5" axle):
+ 3.4375
i got 3.325" for the 6.1s might want to recheck that one
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 15, 2020, 04:10:08 PM
Yeah pulled that from wb thread. Havenít measured myself
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Washed Up Guy on February 17, 2020, 07:57:21 PM
Do T tools line up nicely with the nuts yet?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on February 17, 2020, 09:10:49 PM
if you use the ones without plastic frame around, like those stripped down slimmer all metal ones, it can work. but unit tools are still too thick for example.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 18, 2020, 07:40:09 AM
Do T tools line up nicely with the nuts yet?

I use the indy tool. Still gotta be careful
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 18, 2020, 07:40:57 AM
All I have is the unit.
two of them.

Well not sure how i'll get these 6.1's on then
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 18, 2020, 07:44:29 AM
All I have is the unit.
two of them.

Well not sure how i'll get these 6.1's on then

adjustable wrench
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 18, 2020, 07:47:37 AM
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All I have is the unit.
two of them.

Well not sure how i'll get these 6.1's on then
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adjustable wrench
yeah i'm sure i got something around the workbench. inconvenient tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 18, 2020, 07:50:33 AM
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All I have is the unit.
two of them.

Well not sure how i'll get these 6.1's on then
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adjustable wrench
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yeah i'm sure i got something around the workbench. inconvenient tho.

agreed
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Smartass on February 18, 2020, 07:52:47 AM
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All I have is the unit.
two of them.

Well not sure how i'll get these 6.1's on then
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adjustable wrench
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yeah i'm sure i got something around the workbench. inconvenient tho.

What I did back in the. day with Venture and the Unit T tool was angle the tool on to the nut it grabs it pretty well and then just use a screw driver to screw it in vs turning the tool.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on February 18, 2020, 08:03:12 AM
If youíre struggling that hard, you can always take the hangar off and just mount the baseplate. I had to do that when I bought those stupid ďlightĒ shortys with the tiny nuts.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 18, 2020, 12:44:41 PM
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Do T tools line up nicely with the nuts yet?
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I use the indy tool. Still gotta be careful
I have the indy tool too. It doesn't get along very well with the outer most bolts on my new Venture 5.8's. But my 360 flips are loving them. I will take the trade off.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on February 19, 2020, 09:12:07 AM
Silver makes a good skate tool that works pretty efficiently with Ventures.

Does anyone have recommendations on pivot cups that fit Ventures properly?  I'm running 5.8 TI's
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 19, 2020, 10:15:37 AM
Silver makes a good skate tool that works pretty efficiently with Ventures.

Does anyone have recommendations on pivot cups that fit Ventures properly?  I'm running 5.8 TI's

Not really....it works just kike any other skate tool works, just barely, at an angle...it also sucks on those low profile shortys nuts on ventures (angle makes it hard to latch onto).

Riptides.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 19, 2020, 10:44:59 AM
LOL just grabbed some shorty's 1" for my next setup with Ventures. aw shit
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on February 19, 2020, 10:58:22 AM
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Silver makes a good skate tool that works pretty efficiently with Ventures.

Does anyone have recommendations on pivot cups that fit Ventures properly?  I'm running 5.8 TI's
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Not really....it works just kike any other skate tool works, just barely, at an angle...it also sucks on those low profile shortys nuts on ventures (angle makes it hard to latch onto).

Riptides.

Really? I just picked up one of the Silver tools and it def was way easier than the other tool I had been using.  I think my previous was an Independent tool.  There was def a noticeable difference in difficulty with removing the bolts.

And I assumed Riptides, but I didnt know if there was like a model specific for Ventures.  Thanks G
*edit* just copped some riptides actually, gooood loooooks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on February 19, 2020, 11:11:48 AM
LOL just grabbed some shorty's 1" for my next setup with Ventures. aw shit
As long as theyíre not the ďlightsĒ youíre fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on February 19, 2020, 11:22:02 AM
even then it's really not that bad, managed to get a pair on recently with that hardware. definitely worse than thunder.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Skart on February 19, 2020, 11:43:20 AM
Spitfire tool is all you need
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SneakySecrets on February 20, 2020, 05:53:22 AM
Be careful about using the Indy tool on Ventures, they made it so the stem will crack and often shatter at the angle necessary to secure the nut on there.  You can get away with it or if you go slowly and are very careful like I am. 

They specifically made the Indy tool to be incompatible with Ventures to try to hedge them out of the market.  I think that itís A) evil and B) dumb.  Donít make the consumer pay for your dwindling sales, especially with those sharp slivers of plastic that can get everywhere when that shaft shatters.  My friend had to take his cat to the emergency vet because it ate one of those slivers and did some damage to its esophagus (itís ok now though).  And itís dumb because people are just going to think Indy makes poor tools.  They are not poor quality, they are just bobbytrapped.  Thatís the key point Iím trying to make here.

If you have a lathe or a cut-off wheel or something like that, you can actually notch out the shaft where it would make contact with the Venture hanger.  I would not recommend this to the weekend hobbyist sect because there is far less margin for error than it appears.

[Tip:  If youíre going to try this, heat that thing up a little bit!  I microwaved it 2 seconds at a time for a total of 12 seconds (3 second cool-down).  5x6=30 seconds total.]

Now if you are working with 7/8Ē bolts, thatís going to change the equation entirely.  At sea level, the density of the metal compared with the average atmospheric pressure is going to make that shorter bolt a bit more brittle than your standard 1 incher.  ďWell what does this mean for me?Ē you ask.  Well, thatís a tough question to answer.  First off, do you have a plumb bob?  If yes, skip the next paragraph.  If no, continue reading.

Youíll want to figure out some way of independently (no pun intended! Lol) verifying the true center of that bolt.  Manufacturers specs are shockingly inaccurate, as I have found variances of 3, even 4 microns on either side of true center.  The easiest way I have found to verify this without a plumb bob or electron microscope is using the earthís natural magnetic field, when adjusted for the tilting axis and slight wobble we experience while rotating, the bolt will tend to gravitate towards true north as long as you have two equally-powerful magnets equidistant and the bolt is dropped face-down between them.

Good, now that we know true center, we need to simply repeat this 7 more times for each of the bolts.  This should take no less than an hour provided youíve got your system down and are taking accurate notes (which you should be.  Otherwise you might as well just let the guy at CCS put your board together for you, pleb). 

Another key mistake I see a lot of people make is just turning the bolt or the nut right on there.  Hahahaha.  Fools!  Filthy, unwashed masses and their simple ways.  You need to turn the nut or the bolt backwards one turn for every two full turns.  This should be obvious, but if you need me to spell it out for you, this will dissipate some of that heat generated from the friction caused from those threads rubbing together.  As you turn, those threads are actually getting hotter than the surface of the sun for a brief nanosecond (this is why I tend to wear a welding helmet while assembling my skateboard).  Turning the bolt back the OTHER way will reverse some of that heat, actually bringing the threads dangerously close to absolute-zero in the process.  This hot/cold/hot/cold will ensure the threads do not get misshapen while also hardening the metal at the same time.  Your bolts will be able to survive a nuclear blast if done correctly.  (I actually have a fallout shelter built exclusively out of my old hardened hardware.  If any of u pals need a spot to wait out the nuclear holocaust, come on over, give the ďdouble knock-pause-single knockĒ signal, give the secret passcode (ďShalomĒ) and youíre in!  Mi casa su casa.)

If anyone has any questions, feel free to PM and I can walk you through any of these steps. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on February 20, 2020, 08:00:37 AM
Whatís an Indy tool?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: authentic_creed_bratton on February 20, 2020, 08:08:49 AM
yíall need a gd toolbox
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on February 20, 2020, 08:34:27 AM
yíall need a gd toolbox

Truth. Iíve always just kept a screwdriver and wrench in my car.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: baustin on February 20, 2020, 08:40:51 AM
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Truth. Iíve always just kept a screwdriver and wrench in my car.

Using an actual socket wrench from a set that I know is going to last a lifetime is nice. Skate specific tools can be convenient but are typically overpriced garbage.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 20, 2020, 09:10:42 AM
Whatís an Indy tool?

Anyone still riding them?

Thanks, I'm here all week...

(I'm kidding FFS, it was too easy and I couldn't resist)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 20, 2020, 09:13:11 AM
yíall need a gd toolbox

For real. I've plenty of tools that get around the venture angle or low profile nuts, etc. I use the Silver tool to ratchet down then a sk8ology tool to tighten all the way; I hate cranking down the allen/phillips side as it chews up the tape sometimes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 20, 2020, 09:16:14 AM
I have tools. I feel like the complaint wasn't involving NOT being able to get the trucks on. Just them being a bit more inconvenient.
And the difference between the forged/cast plates right?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Smartass on February 20, 2020, 09:51:41 AM
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Anyone still riding them?

Thanks, I'm here all week...

(I'm kidding FFS, it was too easy and I couldn't resist)

I was offended by your post and feel that you should apologize to not only me but all my homies who happen to be bald, judgmental, and make some very interesting comments about maintaining some kind superiority. Not only do I want you to apologize, I want some form of compensation in the way of monetary value.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lazer69 on February 20, 2020, 10:35:35 AM
I just tried my venture 5,8 Bobby worrests today after skating indy's for 2 years with half that time being on bones hard bushings. Felt so strange, I felt like a noob. Was struggling, felt so weird, hopefully it gets better or I'll have to revert. I was trying to tighten them and the green bushing quickly started cracking/herniating. I still want to give them a chance though, since they feel significantly lighter, and this new board I have is a shorter WB than my previous.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 20, 2020, 10:49:56 AM
I just tried my venture 5,8 Bobby worrests today after skating indy's for 2 years with half that time being on bones hard bushings. Felt so strange, I felt like a noob. Was struggling, felt so weird, hopefully it gets better or I'll have to revert. I was trying to tighten them and the green bushing quickly started racking/herniating. I still want to give them a chance though, since they feel significantly lighter, and this new board I have is a shorter WB than my previous.
Don't give up on them just yet! I usually ride fairly tight trucks(with black bushings)on both Indy 144 and Venture's 5.2s. When I got my 5.8 B.Worrests I tightened them up like normal and had the same problems as you.So I just backed the nuts out flush and am just skating them that way and I love them now. I could play the bushing game again but I am trying to contain my insanity to shoes and deck brands..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Buttfart Rapedick on February 20, 2020, 11:27:59 AM
Be careful about using the Indy tool on Ventures, they made it so the stem will crack and often shatter at the angle necessary to secure the nut on there.  You can get away with it or if you go slowly and are very careful like I am. 

They specifically made the Indy tool to be incompatible with Ventures to try to hedge them out of the market.  I think that itís A) evil and B) dumb.  Donít make the consumer pay for your dwindling sales, especially with those sharp slivers of plastic that can get everywhere when that shaft shatters.  My friend had to take his cat to the emergency vet because it ate one of those slivers and did some damage to its esophagus (itís ok now though).  And itís dumb because people are just going to think Indy makes poor tools.  They are not poor quality, they are just bobbytrapped.  Thatís the key point Iím trying to make here.

If you have a lathe or a cut-off wheel or something like that, you can actually notch out the shaft where it would make contact with the Venture hanger.  I would not recommend this to the weekend hobbyist sect because there is far less margin for error than it appears.

[Tip:  If youíre going to try this, heat that thing up a little bit!  I microwaved it 2 seconds at a time for a total of 12 seconds (3 second cool-down).  5x6=30 seconds total.]

Now if you are working with 7/8Ē bolts, thatís going to change the equation entirely.  At sea level, the density of the metal compared with the average atmospheric pressure is going to make that shorter bolt a bit more brittle than your standard 1 incher.  ďWell what does this mean for me?Ē you ask.  Well, thatís a tough question to answer.  First off, do you have a plumb bob?  If yes, skip the next paragraph.  If no, continue reading.

Youíll want to figure out some way of independently (no pun intended! Lol) verifying the true center of that bolt.  Manufacturers specs are shockingly inaccurate, as I have found variances of 3, even 4 microns on either side of true center.  The easiest way I have found to verify this without a plumb bob or electron microscope is using the earthís natural magnetic field, when adjusted for the tilting axis and slight wobble we experience while rotating, the bolt will tend to gravitate towards true north as long as you have two equally-powerful magnets equidistant and the bolt is dropped face-down between them.

Good, now that we know true center, we need to simply repeat this 7 more times for each of the bolts.  This should take no less than an hour provided youíve got your system down and are taking accurate notes (which you should be.  Otherwise you might as well just let the guy at CCS put your board together for you, pleb). 

Another key mistake I see a lot of people make is just turning the bolt or the nut right on there.  Hahahaha.  Fools!  Filthy, unwashed masses and their simple ways.  You need to turn the nut or the bolt backwards one turn for every two full turns.  This should be obvious, but if you need me to spell it out for you, this will dissipate some of that heat generated from the friction caused from those threads rubbing together.  As you turn, those threads are actually getting hotter than the surface of the sun for a brief nanosecond (this is why I tend to wear a welding helmet while assembling my skateboard).  Turning the bolt back the OTHER way will reverse some of that heat, actually bringing the threads dangerously close to absolute-zero in the process.  This hot/cold/hot/cold will ensure the threads do not get misshapen while also hardening the metal at the same time.  Your bolts will be able to survive a nuclear blast if done correctly.  (I actually have a fallout shelter built exclusively out of my old hardened hardware.  If any of u pals need a spot to wait out the nuclear holocaust, come on over, give the ďdouble knock-pause-single knockĒ signal, give the secret passcode (ďShalomĒ) and youíre in!  Mi casa su casa.)

If anyone has any questions, feel free to PM and I can walk you through any of these steps. 

Fake news. Blatant V-wing awakeist propaganda. MIGA.

yíall need a gd toolbox

I can't throw a toolbox in my backpack or cargo pocket when I leave for work.

I have access to all the tools I need (plus a ton I don't need) at work but still setup all my boards with a razor blade, silver tool, and the little allen wrench you get with the hardware. Just feels right to me ya know?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 20, 2020, 02:52:22 PM
Whatís an Indy tool?

its China crap. The die was all I needed I needed immediately.

The fricking Allen wrench part stripped into a circular shape
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lysdexia on February 20, 2020, 06:03:03 PM
the acid tool is magic for ventures and other trucks with awkward hangers to get around.  the wrench can be used straight on like normal, or sideways to get into tight spots
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 20, 2020, 06:35:50 PM
the acid tool is magic for ventures and other trucks with awkward hangers to get around.  the wrench can be used straight on like normal, or sideways to get into tight spots

Looks like my moms sex toy.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000127558891.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.40c46368vL9Wev&algo_pvid=e7ba2556-3ccd-412c-8b70-4666befd3529&algo_expid=e7ba2556-3ccd-412c-8b70-4666befd3529-29&btsid=0ab6f8ad15822524585771627ed854&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

Got me one of these doohickies to help me out with Ventures. Smaller than a wrench and nuts that aren't smashed
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on February 21, 2020, 04:23:58 AM
Saw on insta MAnderson is now woke.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on February 21, 2020, 05:16:40 AM
Saw on insta MAnderson is now woke.
His Venchies looked nice and grinded.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 21, 2020, 08:13:45 AM
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Saw on insta MAnderson is now woke.
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His Venchies looked nice and grinded.
I could be wrong but I screenshot it and zoomed, they look like copper colored Ace.
Edit: also not Mandersonís setup. It belongs to @siahhhg
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Trail on February 21, 2020, 11:24:13 AM
Anyone running Venture Hi's for transition?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FredGallsBallz on February 21, 2020, 12:13:12 PM
Anyone running Venture Hi's for transition?

John Cardiel in 1993. Although those were probably a low/mid. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FakieFlipCG on February 21, 2020, 01:30:28 PM
Anyone running Venture Hi's for transition?
yuto? (0-0:25) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI7yM5aQv1w
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on February 21, 2020, 01:31:38 PM
Yuto is a GOD on tranny
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on February 21, 2020, 02:36:42 PM
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Saw on insta MAnderson is now woke.
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His Venchies looked nice and grinded.
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I could be wrong but I screenshot it and zoomed, they look like copper colored Ace.
Edit: also not Mandersonís setup. It belongs to @siahhhg

Ya wasn't Mike's. Can't find his original story with the ventures/venture sticker. I dropped the ball.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on February 21, 2020, 02:42:35 PM
Yuto is a GOD on tranny
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BornToLose on February 22, 2020, 05:04:28 AM
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Saw on insta MAnderson is now woke.
[close]
His Venchies looked nice and grinded.
[close]
I could be wrong but I screenshot it and zoomed, they look like copper colored Ace.
Edit: also not Mandersonís setup. It belongs to @siahhhg
[close]

Ya wasn't Mike's. Can't find his original story with the ventures/venture sticker. I dropped the ball.

Looks like a Venture hoody
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7cTMWTHRGu/?igshid=oszh4q3hhyav (https://www.instagram.com/p/B7cTMWTHRGu/?igshid=oszh4q3hhyav)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on February 22, 2020, 05:22:48 AM
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Saw on insta MAnderson is now woke.
[close]
His Venchies looked nice and grinded.
[close]
I could be wrong but I screenshot it and zoomed, they look like copper colored Ace.
Edit: also not Mandersonís setup. It belongs to @siahhhg
[close]

Ya wasn't Mike's. Can't find his original story with the ventures/venture sticker. I dropped the ball.
[close]

Looks like a Venture hoody
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7cTMWTHRGu/?igshid=oszh4q3hhyav (https://www.instagram.com/p/B7cTMWTHRGu/?igshid=oszh4q3hhyav)
Fuck yeah, sick!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on February 22, 2020, 05:34:46 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B82rzhcls7q/

heres the photo from the krooked story of mandersons set up
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 22, 2020, 12:45:46 PM
This movement is so amazing to my old ass. I have got shit for decades for skating Ventures. People are finally seeing the light and its cool to see.
*edit*
I just got back from my local park and it turned into a solo flatground session due to an catastrophic amount of rollerbladers everywhere. But I am sad to say I have axle slip on both 5.8 Bobby W. Ventures. The pop is unreal but Its only my second time skating them so I'm bummed.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on February 23, 2020, 02:22:01 PM
This movement is so amazing to my old ass. I have got shit for decades for skating Ventures. People are finally seeing the light and its cool to see.
*edit*
I just got back from my local park and it turned into a solo flatground session due to an catastrophic amount of rollerbladers everywhere. But I am sad to say I have axle slip on both 5.8 Bobby W. Ventures. The pop is unreal but Its only my second time skating them so I'm bummed.
this happened to my pair, and then my replacement pair. absolutely loved the way they skated, but also loving that I don't have to bash my Indys off the ground to break the wheels loose. respect to everyone skating venture though, they're sick, they felt better than the pairs I had back in 2005. just fix those axles and we're good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 23, 2020, 03:30:59 PM
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This movement is so amazing to my old ass. I have got shit for decades for skating Ventures. People are finally seeing the light and its cool to see.
*edit*
I just got back from my local park and it turned into a solo flatground session due to an catastrophic amount of rollerbladers everywhere. But I am sad to say I have axle slip on both 5.8 Bobby W. Ventures. The pop is unreal but Its only my second time skating them so I'm bummed.
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this happened to my pair, and then my replacement pair. absolutely loved the way they skated, but also loving that I don't have to bash my Indys off the ground to break the wheels loose. respect to everyone skating venture though, they're sick, they felt better than the pairs I had back in 2005. just fix those axles and we're good.
I'm hoping with so many skaters changing over that they will take that new found revenue and fix the axle problem.I absolutely love these things otherwise. Just out of curiosity did you go back to indy or are you sticking it out. I ask because I rarely have skated indy but I did not ever have an axle slip with them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on February 23, 2020, 04:54:15 PM
^

had axle slippage on a pair of indys once. actually just one of the trucks. i rode indys for almost ten years before switching to ventures out of pure boredom, indys are still fine to me. this used to be a constant problem for me though when skating thunders, along with their kingpin breaking fairly often and being rather hard to replace on the spot. made me quit riding them.

i've been on ventures since the 5.6 released, so far i couldn't notice any axle slippage.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 23, 2020, 05:19:05 PM
^

had axle slippage on a pair of indys once. actually just one of the trucks. i rode indys for almost ten years before switching to ventures out of pure boredom, indys are still fine to me. this used to be a constant problem for me though when skating thunders, along with their kingpin breaking fairly often and being rather hard to replace on the spot. made me quit riding them.

i've been on ventures since the 5.6 released, so far i couldn't notice any axle slippage.
I don't think I have ever had a pair of Thunders and it sounds like I haven't missed much. I was thinking today I wonder if the fact I have the 5.8s on a 8.25 helped cause it. I threw away more than my fair share of fliptricks yesterday and maybe with the axles sticking out that little bit took more of the impact. I'm not justifying it but just curious if that could be part of it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on February 23, 2020, 08:03:50 PM
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This movement is so amazing to my old ass. I have got shit for decades for skating Ventures. People are finally seeing the light and its cool to see.
*edit*
I just got back from my local park and it turned into a solo flatground session due to an catastrophic amount of rollerbladers everywhere. But I am sad to say I have axle slip on both 5.8 Bobby W. Ventures. The pop is unreal but Its only my second time skating them so I'm bummed.
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this happened to my pair, and then my replacement pair. absolutely loved the way they skated, but also loving that I don't have to bash my Indys off the ground to break the wheels loose. respect to everyone skating venture though, they're sick, they felt better than the pairs I had back in 2005. just fix those axles and we're good.
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I'm hoping with so many skaters changing over that they will take that new found revenue and fix the axle problem.I absolutely love these things otherwise. Just out of curiosity did you go back to indy or are you sticking it out. I ask because I rarely have skated indy but I did not ever have an axle slip with them.
for real. like the way they feel, but it's a bummer slipping axles when they're barely broken in. went back to indy until my pair cracks in half then I'll suck it up and skate them till I can't take it anymore.
also skated them on a 8.25 too, definitely could have something to do with it. might end up looking for a board that's bigger than 8.25 with a short wb to see if that makes a difference. I've slipped axle on Indys too, not saying they're perfect but this pair I have down to the axle hasn't slipped yet so I keep running them when other trucks let me down.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Toadfish Rebecchi on February 24, 2020, 05:13:48 AM
People on here acting like all trucks donít get axel slip must never try flip tricks. In 27 years of skating Iíve never had a pair of trucks that donít slip (have only ever ridden Indy until recently getting Ventures though...)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 24, 2020, 09:41:46 AM
People on here acting like all trucks donít get axel slip must never try flip tricks. In 27 years of skating Iíve never had a pair of trucks that donít slip (have only ever ridden Indy until recently getting Ventures though...)
I know I never had one slip after only a few hours of skating. I kinda assume its inevitable but it definitely sucks when their brand new.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on February 24, 2020, 09:51:19 AM
My Indyís have slipped my thunders have slipped my ventures have slipped. Itíll happen if you flip your board.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 24, 2020, 10:49:36 AM
A few sessions in now on the ventures and Iím loving them more and more. Theyíre so much better feeling for manuals. Like i mentioned before they feel so good on a board with a flatter nose and tail; currently riding a baker B16 shape and it makes the nose and tail feel so much more solid as opposed to indys which make the nose and tail feel so flimsy and a little too light sometimes. A solid tail definitely works a lot better at controlling manuals for me.

Canít see myself going back to Indyís anytime soon. The reasons I listed above and plus just riding Indyís for more than a decade now and just getting kinda  burnt out on them has got me stoked on the ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Frank on February 24, 2020, 11:52:17 AM
People on here acting like all trucks donít get axel slip must never try flip tricks. In 27 years of skating Iíve never had a pair of trucks that donít slip (have only ever ridden Indy until recently getting Ventures though...)

yeah if you land primo a lot this is true, just like with flatspotting a wheel. i actually formulated a similar answer but forgot to post... i hope anchored axles will be a thing in the future, not sure what is so difficult about it, but there has to be a reason only so few companies do them afaik. i am pretty aware that i was very lucky with my indy run whith only one truck having axle slipping through 6-8 sets over a span of 9 years. but i haven't always skated them down to the axle tbh. i totally wouldn't complain when axle slippage starts to happen after 9 months to a year of skating the truck. just something that will eventually occure with wear.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on February 24, 2020, 12:41:31 PM
Just ordered some 5.8 Bobby ventures. Pretty excited to jump from indys.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Toadfish Rebecchi on February 24, 2020, 02:30:21 PM
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People on here acting like all trucks donít get axel slip must never try flip tricks. In 27 years of skating Iíve never had a pair of trucks that donít slip (have only ever ridden Indy until recently getting Ventures though...)
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yeah if you land primo a lot this is true, just like with flatspotting a wheel. i actually formulated a similar answer but forgot to post... i hope anchored axles will be a thing in the future, not sure what is so difficult about it, but there has to be a reason only so few companies do them afaik. i am pretty aware that i was very lucky with my indy run whith only one truck having axle slipping through 6-8 sets over a span of 9 years. but i haven't always skated them down to the axle tbh. i totally wouldn't complain when axle slippage starts to happen after 9 months to a year of skating the truck. just something that will eventually occure with wear.

I think one of the issues with anchoring axels is that the truck itself is more likely to break. The force from the impact of landing primo still needs to go somewhere - and if the axel canít slip, it could take some of the truck with it.

Tracker made a truck with a completely floating axel that you slid out to put your wheels on at one stage.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 24, 2020, 05:43:38 PM
Damn all this Venture talk is getting me excited to setup my 7.75 Traffic board from a few months ago. Didn't feel right with Indy 139 or Thunder 147 Hollow Lights, think it will be different with Venture Hollow Lights 5.2 Hi. The WB is short (14") so WB extending sounds like the ticket.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Whitedude on February 24, 2020, 09:20:57 PM
When I started skating I only skated thunders. Tried a set of venture and hated them (couldnít really do anything at the time so it didnít really mean shit) so I just went back to thunders for years until switching to indys in like 2014. Just got a set of the polished 5.6 and I gotta say it feels nice to actually be able to pop my board again
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 25, 2020, 03:46:27 PM
Should I just
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People on here acting like all trucks don’t get axel slip must never try flip tricks. In 27 years of skating I’ve never had a pair of trucks that don’t slip (have only ever ridden Indy until recently getting Ventures though...)
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yeah if you land primo a lot this is true, just like with flatspotting a wheel. i actually formulated a similar answer but forgot to post... i hope anchored axles will be a thing in the future, not sure what is so difficult about it, but there has to be a reason only so few companies do them afaik. i am pretty aware that i was very lucky with my indy run whith only one truck having axle slipping through 6-8 sets over a span of 9 years. but i haven't always skated them down to the axle tbh. i totally wouldn't complain when axle slippage starts to happen after 9 months to a year of skating the truck. just something that will eventually occure with wear.

I don't think so.

Some younger cats i skate with though I was copying Tom Penny "thing" by tapping my axles and spinning my wheels before I through down.

They never seen axles slip before because its rare these days.

Edit. See how this plays over the next few days
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on February 25, 2020, 06:41:28 PM
When I started skating I only skated thunders. Tried a set of venture and hated them (couldnít really do anything at the time so it didnít really mean shit) so I just went back to thunders for years until switching to indys in like 2014. Just got a set of the polished 5.6 and I gotta say it feels nice to actually be able to pop my board again
glad im not the only one who gets no pop on indys
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 25, 2020, 08:45:42 PM
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When I started skating I only skated thunders. Tried a set of venture and hated them (couldnít really do anything at the time so it didnít really mean shit) so I just went back to thunders for years until switching to indys in like 2014. Just got a set of the polished 5.6 and I gotta say it feels nice to actually be able to pop my board again
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glad im not the only one who gets no pop on indys

Im riding my Indy 144 Cast and I'm not liking the ride at all. Pinch isn't great, pop feels floaty instead of snappy and I'm not a fan of the height. Can't wait to swap them out.

Edit - setup a pair of Venture 5.2L Hollow Lights on a 8.0 board o retired a while ago. Pop is coming back very nicely, only gripe is the height, feel like my tail is bottoming out. And I forgot to pack riser in my bag. But overall I'm loving Venture

Edit edit - I'm full on the Venture 2020 hype train. I learned backside Smiths and Fs Crooks today, that pinch is magnificent. I think Indy's have a nicer slide on the baseplate but I'll take Ventures explosive pop over the floppiness of Indy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FredGallsBallz on February 27, 2020, 09:47:30 AM
Koston is skating Ventures. Whatís the world coming to? https://www.instagram.com/p/B9FD8PiFfTi/
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on February 27, 2020, 09:55:55 AM
Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasnít joined a truck company since Indy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 27, 2020, 08:27:27 PM
Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasnít joined a truck company since Indy.

I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on February 28, 2020, 01:05:43 AM
Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that? I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Toadfish Rebecchi on February 28, 2020, 01:10:11 AM
Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that? I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?

I skate for transport a lot and I like loose trucks. I canít tell the difference between the 5.8 Ventures highs Iím riding now and the 20 sets of 149 Indys I rode previously. Great turns.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on February 28, 2020, 01:17:17 AM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that? I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
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I skate for transport a lot and I like loose trucks. I canít tell the difference between the 5.8 Ventures highs Iím riding now and the 20 sets of 149 Indys I rode previously. Great turns.

Thanks for the info, do you find the top washer mashes into the truck? It's more of an aesthetic thing but I feel like that'd bug me
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on February 28, 2020, 04:55:06 AM
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Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasnít joined a truck company since Indy.
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I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?
No sorry. I meant on Instagram heís been flipping between those two trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on February 28, 2020, 05:03:05 AM
those two nuts ARE a bitch to tighten with the unit tool. adjustable wrench it is.. that plus phillips over allen which I usually use was  :(
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on February 28, 2020, 07:41:52 AM
those two nuts ARE a bitch to tighten with the unit tool. adjustable wrench it is.. that plus phillips over allen which I usually use was  :(

Silver tool works decently but those 2 nuts are a bitch. The baseplate is wider than a Thunder one, the riser I had don't sit flush but in too lazy to go to the shop for some new ones.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 28, 2020, 09:43:53 AM
Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that? I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?

Yes, recommend a Bones (flat) top washer if you don't swap to Bones.

It's just different; certainly not as quick as a Thunder or ACE

Out of all the trucks I've tried, for me, they really need a full swap of bushings out of the gate. I ride loose and either Bones Softs or Ace bushings (dual duro, low top, hi bottom) work best for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on February 28, 2020, 10:25:13 AM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that? I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
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Yes, recommend a Bones (flat) top washer if you don't swap to Bones.

It's just different; certainly not as quick as a Thunder or ACE

Out of all the trucks I've tried, for me, they really need a full swap of bushings out of the gate. I ride loose and either Bones Softs or Ace bushings (dual duro, low top, hi bottom) work best for me.

Thanks, appreciate the info.When I got that set of ventures years a ago and wasn't sure if I'd gotten the updated DLX trucks since it seems like an oversight and it'd prevent the truck from turning further out the gates. The fix seems simple enough with a flat washer though. I just remember leaning as hard as I could without tipping on 2 wheels and never being able to turn as much as I liked compared to other trucks. The titanium ones seem really good for a tech setup but I get the impression these aren't really the trucks for me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on February 28, 2020, 12:43:47 PM
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those two nuts ARE a bitch to tighten with the unit tool. adjustable wrench it is.. that plus phillips over allen which I usually use was  :(
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Silver tool works decently but those 2 nuts are a bitch. The baseplate is wider than a Thunder one, the riser I had don't sit flush but in too lazy to go to the shop for some new ones.
pretty sure the two nuts make it a man
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 11112345 on February 28, 2020, 01:30:37 PM
Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that?
my 6.1s would bind every now and again but it happened rarely enough that i didn't feel like i had to do anything about it - until i put em on a wider board and could put more force into each turn! still happened rarely but slightly less rarely. just switched out the stock top washers for some bones ones !

I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
many trucks have steeper (or am i thinking less steep? :P ) kingpin angles and all that, in addition to their shorter wheelbases !
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 28, 2020, 04:15:56 PM
Yes the stock washer makes a little scratches in the hangers. It wasn't significant.

I threw out the purple top and put an old cracked up bones bushing with a flat washer from my ace truck.

I would have kept it if it was summer time

That was because of how cold it is out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on February 29, 2020, 11:17:21 AM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that?
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my 6.1s would bind every now and again but it happened rarely enough that i didn't feel like i had to do anything about it - until i put em on a wider board and could put more force into each turn! still happened rarely but slightly less rarely. just switched out the stock top washers for some bones ones !

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I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
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many trucks have steeper (or am i thinking less steep? :P ) kingpin angles and all that, in addition to their shorter wheelbases !

Thanks for the info, when you say bind, do you mean the bushings just aren't rebounding, or that the old, non-bones, washer was catching in there and causing stuff to get stuck?

Yes the stock washer makes a little scratches in the hangers. It wasn't significant.

I threw out the purple top and put an old cracked up bones bushing with a flat washer from my ace truck.

I would have kept it if it was summer time

That was because of how cold it is out.

Gotcha thanks

You guys know if venture has updated the geo on the new wider models (5.8 and 6.1) since the dlx change? I guess I just don't get the hype since to me they felt like a truck that couldn't turn despite doing other things pretty well. Granted I didn't swap out bushings when I had some 5.2 highs
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 29, 2020, 11:31:36 AM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that?
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my 6.1s would bind every now and again but it happened rarely enough that i didn't feel like i had to do anything about it - until i put em on a wider board and could put more force into each turn! still happened rarely but slightly less rarely. just switched out the stock top washers for some bones ones !

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I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
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many trucks have steeper (or am i thinking less steep? :P ) kingpin angles and all that, in addition to their shorter wheelbases !
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Thanks for the info, when you say bind, do you mean the bushings just aren't rebounding, or that the old, non-bones, washer was catching in there and causing stuff to get stuck?

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Yes the stock washer makes a little scratches in the hangers. It wasn't significant.

I threw out the purple top and put an old cracked up bones bushing with a flat washer from my ace truck.

I would have kept it if it was summer time

That was because of how cold it is out.
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Gotcha thanks

You guys know if venture has updated the geo on the new wider models (5.8 and 6.1) since the dlx change? I guess I just don't get the hype since to me they felt like a truck that couldn't turn despite doing other things pretty well. Granted I didn't swap out bushings when I had some 5.2 highs
I dont know if they changed anything for sure, but I can tell you that the 5.8s I have now just feel like a wider version of the Venture 5.0s and 5.2s I skated many years ago. They certainly do not turn like Indys or Thunders, but that never bothered me because I ride fairly tight trucks anyway. Maybe the hype is because people just like the stability of them that you really don't get with some other brands.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on February 29, 2020, 12:13:39 PM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that?
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my 6.1s would bind every now and again but it happened rarely enough that i didn't feel like i had to do anything about it - until i put em on a wider board and could put more force into each turn! still happened rarely but slightly less rarely. just switched out the stock top washers for some bones ones !

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I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
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many trucks have steeper (or am i thinking less steep? :P ) kingpin angles and all that, in addition to their shorter wheelbases !
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Thanks for the info, when you say bind, do you mean the bushings just aren't rebounding, or that the old, non-bones, washer was catching in there and causing stuff to get stuck?

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Yes the stock washer makes a little scratches in the hangers. It wasn't significant.

I threw out the purple top and put an old cracked up bones bushing with a flat washer from my ace truck.

I would have kept it if it was summer time

That was because of how cold it is out.
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Gotcha thanks

You guys know if venture has updated the geo on the new wider models (5.8 and 6.1) since the dlx change? I guess I just don't get the hype since to me they felt like a truck that couldn't turn despite doing other things pretty well. Granted I didn't swap out bushings when I had some 5.2 highs
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I dont know if they changed anything for sure, but I can tell you that the 5.8s I have now just feel like a wider version of the Venture 5.0s and 5.2s I skated many years ago. They certainly do not turn like Indys or Thunders, but that never bothered me because I ride fairly tight trucks anyway. Maybe the hype is because people just like the stability of them that you really don't get with some other brands.

Yeah that's definitely fair, I generally ride loose so it's just a personal preference thing. Wasn't sure if the new wider ones were somehow different, thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 29, 2020, 12:22:23 PM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that?
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my 6.1s would bind every now and again but it happened rarely enough that i didn't feel like i had to do anything about it - until i put em on a wider board and could put more force into each turn! still happened rarely but slightly less rarely. just switched out the stock top washers for some bones ones !

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I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
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many trucks have steeper (or am i thinking less steep? :P ) kingpin angles and all that, in addition to their shorter wheelbases !
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Thanks for the info, when you say bind, do you mean the bushings just aren't rebounding, or that the old, non-bones, washer was catching in there and causing stuff to get stuck?

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Yes the stock washer makes a little scratches in the hangers. It wasn't significant.

I threw out the purple top and put an old cracked up bones bushing with a flat washer from my ace truck.

I would have kept it if it was summer time

That was because of how cold it is out.
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Gotcha thanks

You guys know if venture has updated the geo on the new wider models (5.8 and 6.1) since the dlx change? I guess I just don't get the hype since to me they felt like a truck that couldn't turn despite doing other things pretty well. Granted I didn't swap out bushings when I had some 5.2 highs
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I dont know if they changed anything for sure, but I can tell you that the 5.8s I have now just feel like a wider version of the Venture 5.0s and 5.2s I skated many years ago. They certainly do not turn like Indys or Thunders, but that never bothered me because I ride fairly tight trucks anyway. Maybe the hype is because people just like the stability of them that you really don't get with some other brands.
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Yeah that's definitely fair, I generally ride loose so it's just a personal preference thing. Wasn't sure if the new wider ones were somehow different, thanks for clarifying.
Np man, maybe some loose truck guys that ride Venture's will give you whole different opinion.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fs1/2cab on February 29, 2020, 01:27:51 PM
So you guys got me now interested in ventures. Specifically because of the "explosive pop". I ride Indys since 4 years. I like loose and surfy turns.
What could I expect if I switch to ventures and which ones would you recommend for 8.125 decks?
Thanks in advance pals.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 29, 2020, 01:30:54 PM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that?
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my 6.1s would bind every now and again but it happened rarely enough that i didn't feel like i had to do anything about it - until i put em on a wider board and could put more force into each turn! still happened rarely but slightly less rarely. just switched out the stock top washers for some bones ones !

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I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
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many trucks have steeper (or am i thinking less steep? :P ) kingpin angles and all that, in addition to their shorter wheelbases !
[close]

Thanks for the info, when you say bind, do you mean the bushings just aren't rebounding, or that the old, non-bones, washer was catching in there and causing stuff to get stuck?

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Yes the stock washer makes a little scratches in the hangers. It wasn't significant.

I threw out the purple top and put an old cracked up bones bushing with a flat washer from my ace truck.

I would have kept it if it was summer time

That was because of how cold it is out.
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Gotcha thanks

You guys know if venture has updated the geo on the new wider models (5.8 and 6.1) since the dlx change? I guess I just don't get the hype since to me they felt like a truck that couldn't turn despite doing other things pretty well. Granted I didn't swap out bushings when I had some 5.2 highs
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I dont know if they changed anything for sure, but I can tell you that the 5.8s I have now just feel like a wider version of the Venture 5.0s and 5.2s I skated many years ago. They certainly do not turn like Indys or Thunders, but that never bothered me because I ride fairly tight trucks anyway. Maybe the hype is because people just like the stability of them that you really don't get with some other brands.
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Yeah that's definitely fair, I generally ride loose so it's just a personal preference thing. Wasn't sure if the new wider ones were somehow different, thanks for clarifying.
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Np man, maybe some loose truck guys that ride Venture's will give you whole different opinion.

I ride very loose trucks. I'm thinking about flipping my top bolt even to get a little more.

With the ace 44 I had a stock bottom and a bones top I rode them very loose on an 8.5 with a 14.5 wb.

The venture 5.6 I have the stock purple barrels with cracked bones tops with the flat washer on an 8.25 with a little less than 14.25 wb.

Its basically the same except I'm more stable when I land in my board.

At the ledge and flat bar the venture beats the ace for crooks etc. Manny tricks. Ace at first but now it's the same.

Shallow end of the bowl or tight tranny ace will always win against any truck. Same with pool coping. Nothing can hang with ace and indy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 29, 2020, 01:32:40 PM
So you guys got me now interested in ventures. Specifically because of the "explosive pop". I ride Indys since 4 years. I like loose and surfy turns.
What could I expect if I switch to ventures and which ones would you recommend for 8.125 decks?
Thanks in advance pals.

5.2 or 5.6 high.

What decks do you like.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fs1/2cab on February 29, 2020, 01:44:29 PM
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So you guys got me now interested in ventures. Specifically because of the "explosive pop". I ride Indys since 4 years. I like loose and surfy turns.
What could I expect if I switch to ventures and which ones would you recommend for 8.125 decks?
Thanks in advance pals.
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5.2 or 5.6 high.

What decks do you like.

My last 4 decks were all crail, next one will be a AWS. I like 14 - 14.25 WB.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 29, 2020, 02:01:31 PM
So you guys got me now interested in ventures. Specifically because of the "explosive pop". I ride Indys since 4 years. I like loose and surfy turns.
What could I expect if I switch to ventures and which ones would you recommend for 8.125 decks?
Thanks in advance pals.
I had 5.2 (8")Venture's on a 8.125 and did not like it. So maybe 5.6 (8 1/4")Venture's would be good for 8.1's. But I seem to like a little more truck. I currently have 5.8 on a 8.25 and absolutely love it. I always go for 14 1/4" WB if that helps at all.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SneakySecrets on February 29, 2020, 02:09:50 PM
Iím sizing down from 8.25 to 8, so Iím going to finally get to skate my set of 5.2 hollow lows that Iíve had for years but barely ever touched. 

Hope they are still as awesome as I remember.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Roger Mexico on February 29, 2020, 02:15:25 PM
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Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasnít joined a truck company since Indy.
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I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?

He was riding ventures in the late-90s Chocolate Tour era. Check out some of those classic Fourstar sequence ads. I don't think he's ever been tied to a truck company for very long.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 29, 2020, 02:30:31 PM
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So you guys got me now interested in ventures. Specifically because of the "explosive pop". I ride Indys since 4 years. I like loose and surfy turns.
What could I expect if I switch to ventures and which ones would you recommend for 8.125 decks?
Thanks in advance pals.
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5.2 or 5.6 high.

What decks do you like.
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My last 4 decks were all crail, next one will be a AWS. I like 14 - 14.25 WB.

yeah It depends on if you planning on moving around width wise. I would get 5.2s if I wasn't going bigger than like 8.125 without adding washers.

If you get the 5 6 its not like you can make it skinnier.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on February 29, 2020, 03:32:11 PM
Iím sizing down from 8.25 to 8, so Iím going to finally get to skate my set of 5.2 hollow lows that Iíve had for years but barely ever touched. 

Hope they are still as awesome as I remember.
Please report back if you don't mind. I recently set up a 8 and I had 5.2 mids on it, and I did not like them at all. I was going to replace them with 5.2 hollow lows but I bought Indy 139 hollows instead. Which is kind of funny because I am just now (after decades of riding Venture's) trying out Indys while alot of people are running from them. My other/bigger setup has Venture's and that will never change.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SneakySecrets on February 29, 2020, 05:21:31 PM
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Iím sizing down from 8.25 to 8, so Iím going to finally get to skate my set of 5.2 hollow lows that Iíve had for years but barely ever touched. 

Hope they are still as awesome as I remember.
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Please report back if you don't mind. I recently set up a 8 and I had 5.2 mids on it, and I did not like them at all. I was going to replace them with 5.2 hollow lows but I bought Indy 139 hollows instead. Which is kind of funny because I am just now (after decades of riding Venture's) trying out Indys while alot of people are running from them. My other/bigger setup has Venture's and that will never change.

Iím the same way: was always a Venture guy but Indy 144ís have been my go-to the past year or so.

Iíll let Ďcha know how the lows work out. 

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on February 29, 2020, 06:00:08 PM
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those two nuts ARE a bitch to tighten with the unit tool. adjustable wrench it is.. that plus phillips over allen which I usually use was  :(
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Silver tool works decently but those 2 nuts are a bitch. The baseplate is wider than a Thunder one, the riser I had don't sit flush but in too lazy to go to the shop for some new ones.
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pretty sure the two nuts make it a man

g'nard
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: nosneb on February 29, 2020, 06:23:57 PM
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Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasnít joined a truck company since Indy.
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I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?
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No sorry. I meant on Instagram heís been flipping between those two trucks.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ABVYgY9YFPUXAfWkbUDrUUWIqnC0N1wBuuatuHCxKOoPHVSK1W0VS7NJKGx96J5o-mRS0c7AgtBdv2fUL3_FB5_F4VrgJQ7Woq0tZAW8HnaGLZN8jnK_Bxu4ICDkl3oFuUT-FBHZ_LvYk6scQ3c)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on February 29, 2020, 06:50:50 PM
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Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasn’t joined a truck company since Indy.
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I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?
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No sorry. I meant on Instagram he’s been flipping between those two trucks.
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ABVYgY9YFPUXAfWkbUDrUUWIqnC0N1wBuuatuHCxKOoPHVSK1W0VS7NJKGx96J5o-mRS0c7AgtBdv2fUL3_FB5_F4VrgJQ7Woq0tZAW8HnaGLZN8jnK_Bxu4ICDkl3oFuUT-FBHZ_LvYk6scQ3c)

nice
 
Think that switch flip hit the foot though. Looks whiffed as well so who knows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on March 01, 2020, 07:33:54 AM
I have seen that some people have put a flat top washer on their Ventures. I have always ran pretty tight trucks but yesterday I loosened them up to see if it would help with my bowl/transition skating and help me lose the tic tacs after landing some tricks. It did and I really liked it but my kingpin nut is only hand tight now. I was thinking if I swap out the stock top washers with a flat ones maybe I can get the nut back flush. So are you guys just using a flat washer from the hardware store or something else?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on March 01, 2020, 08:27:33 AM
Bones top washers. Iíve been meaning to find the equivalent at the hardware store and buy a handful of them though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on March 01, 2020, 08:35:03 AM
Bones top washers. Iíve been meaning to find the equivalent at the hardware store and buy a handful of them though.
Ok so I should just pick up some bones bushings then. Just looking at the top bushing, I think it would be hard to find a washer with the right diameter hole that won't be way larger than the bushing itself.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 01, 2020, 09:38:07 AM
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Do ventures still have that problem where the top washer mashes into the hanger when you ride them loose? I had a pair of the high ones after DLX updated them years ago and I was wondering if they ever resolved that?
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my 6.1s would bind every now and again but it happened rarely enough that i didn't feel like i had to do anything about it - until i put em on a wider board and could put more force into each turn! still happened rarely but slightly less rarely. just switched out the stock top washers for some bones ones !

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I liked how they felt doing flip tricks and grinds but do you guys find that because the WB is far out relative to other trucks, the turn is less deep compared to other trucks?
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many trucks have steeper (or am i thinking less steep? :P ) kingpin angles and all that, in addition to their shorter wheelbases !
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Thanks for the info, when you say bind, do you mean the bushings just aren't rebounding, or that the old, non-bones, washer was catching in there and causing stuff to get stuck?

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Yes the stock washer makes a little scratches in the hangers. It wasn't significant.

I threw out the purple top and put an old cracked up bones bushing with a flat washer from my ace truck.

I would have kept it if it was summer time

That was because of how cold it is out.
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Gotcha thanks

You guys know if venture has updated the geo on the new wider models (5.8 and 6.1) since the dlx change? I guess I just don't get the hype since to me they felt like a truck that couldn't turn despite doing other things pretty well. Granted I didn't swap out bushings when I had some 5.2 highs
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I dont know if they changed anything for sure, but I can tell you that the 5.8s I have now just feel like a wider version of the Venture 5.0s and 5.2s I skated many years ago. They certainly do not turn like Indys or Thunders, but that never bothered me because I ride fairly tight trucks anyway. Maybe the hype is because people just like the stability of them that you really don't get with some other brands.
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Yeah that's definitely fair, I generally ride loose so it's just a personal preference thing. Wasn't sure if the new wider ones were somehow different, thanks for clarifying.
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Np man, maybe some loose truck guys that ride Venture's will give you whole different opinion.

Yeah, it seems like you've got to do a bit of tweaking to get them to turn more but it's doable. I'd just mistakenly thought something had changed with the geo of the new wider ones since I tend to associate wide setups with looser trucks and there seemed to be a lot of buzz around ventures again all of a sudden. I feel like if I didn't like my 5.2s stock, I wouldn't enjoy the wider variants, even with tweaking since I get the impression if I made the truck turn more with softer bushings, the radius of the turn would still be the same and I'd lose out on the stability which is the whole point of these. Appreciate the info, thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 01, 2020, 09:43:04 AM
Why not use the entire bones bushing in instead of just the top washer
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 01, 2020, 09:49:00 AM
Bones top washers. Iíve been meaning to find the equivalent at the hardware store and buy a handful of them though.

Do you guys worry you'll take out a chunk of bushing if you ever dip a smith/feeble too far with those bones top washers? They always made me nervous since, looking at some other old trucks, I can see the top washers have grind marks from when I fucked up on dipped grinds.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on March 01, 2020, 10:52:39 AM
Why not use the entire bones bushing in instead of just the top washer
I don't know if I'm ready to go down that road. Just kidding yeah I will try them out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on March 01, 2020, 10:54:11 AM
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Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasnít joined a truck company since Indy.
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I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?
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No sorry. I meant on Instagram heís been flipping between those two trucks.
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ABVYgY9YFPUXAfWkbUDrUUWIqnC0N1wBuuatuHCxKOoPHVSK1W0VS7NJKGx96J5o-mRS0c7AgtBdv2fUL3_FB5_F4VrgJQ7Woq0tZAW8HnaGLZN8jnK_Bxu4ICDkl3oFuUT-FBHZ_LvYk6scQ3c)
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nice
 
Think that switch flip hit the foot though. Looks whiffed as well so who knows.
He's on Venture's right now at the Tampa pro.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 01, 2020, 10:54:25 AM
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Why not use the entire bones bushing in instead of just the top washer
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I don't know if I'm ready to go down that road. Just kidding yeah I will try them out.
ha curious myself wondering who has enjoyed it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 01, 2020, 11:06:13 AM
About to get the 8.0 polished with the cast plates. Worst case if I donít like them itís only 30-40 bucks Iím out. On the team thunders now so Iím sure thereís going to be a little difference but Iím down for the extra stability
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: slappyjoes on March 01, 2020, 01:30:58 PM
Iv been thinking about making the switch from indys to ventures. Iv been riding indys for a while now but iv never had a pair of ventures kinda curious to see what they are like

Is the turning like indys or more like thunder?

How high are they compared to indys?

Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 01, 2020, 01:50:38 PM
Longer wheelbase.
Looks like the hi ventures are about the same as a forged Indy and cast thunders but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 01, 2020, 01:54:31 PM
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Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasnít joined a truck company since Indy.
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I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?
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No sorry. I meant on Instagram heís been flipping between those two trucks.
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ABVYgY9YFPUXAfWkbUDrUUWIqnC0N1wBuuatuHCxKOoPHVSK1W0VS7NJKGx96J5o-mRS0c7AgtBdv2fUL3_FB5_F4VrgJQ7Woq0tZAW8HnaGLZN8jnK_Bxu4ICDkl3oFuUT-FBHZ_LvYk6scQ3c)
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nice
 
Think that switch flip hit the foot though. Looks whiffed as well so who knows.
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He's on Venture's right now at the Tampa pro.

that's so sick.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 01, 2020, 02:10:44 PM
Iv been thinking about making the switch from indys to ventures. Iv been riding indys for a while now but iv never had a pair of ventures kinda curious to see what they are like

Is the turning like indys or more like thunder?

How high are they compared to indys?

Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

Did you read this thread at all?

Is the turning like indys or more like thunder?

Neither, somewhere in the middle.

How high are they compared to indys?

Lower than Indy cast but the sameish as Indy forged.

Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 01, 2020, 05:59:13 PM
Pulled the trigger now Iím venture gang for the time being. Did order some riptides though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 01, 2020, 06:01:46 PM
You guys know what duro the stock bushings are? I've heard as high as 94a, and the standard medium 90a. I remember not being particularly into the turn when I had a pair, but in my experience the bushings definitely didn't feel that hard.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 01, 2020, 06:29:17 PM
You guys know what duro the stock bushings are? I've heard as high as 94a, and the standard medium 90a. I remember not being particularly into the turn when I had a pair, but in my experience the bushings definitely didn't feel that hard.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109188.0
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 01, 2020, 06:31:37 PM
Iv been thinking about making the switch from indys to ventures. Iv been riding indys for a while now but iv never had a pair of ventures kinda curious to see what they are like

Is the turning like indys or more like thunder?

How high are they compared to indys?

Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

Is the turning like indys or more like thunder?
More like Thunder but less snappy, take slightly longer to break.

How high are they compared to indys?
Venture HIs are around 53.5, just about the same as a Indy Forged. Indy Cast are 55.
Venture LOs are 48.3, didn't think I would like them but the stability from being closer to the grinding surface is very welcome.

Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?
No they lengthen the WB. 3.25" on Cast, 3.4-3.5" on Forged.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 01, 2020, 06:32:21 PM
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Koston flips between ventures and thunders. I think that is why he hasnít joined a truck company since Indy.
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I don't recall a venture era koston? Plz refresh my memory. I can find any adds.

Wasn't he thunder indy royal back to indy and then full circle thunder?
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No sorry. I meant on Instagram heís been flipping between those two trucks.
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ABVYgY9YFPUXAfWkbUDrUUWIqnC0N1wBuuatuHCxKOoPHVSK1W0VS7NJKGx96J5o-mRS0c7AgtBdv2fUL3_FB5_F4VrgJQ7Woq0tZAW8HnaGLZN8jnK_Bxu4ICDkl3oFuUT-FBHZ_LvYk6scQ3c)
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nice
 
Think that switch flip hit the foot though. Looks whiffed as well so who knows.
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He's on Venture's right now at the Tampa pro.

I'm sure he skates what's free, sponsored or not ;) bro flow
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 01, 2020, 07:19:45 PM
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You guys know what duro the stock bushings are? I've heard as high as 94a, and the standard medium 90a. I remember not being particularly into the turn when I had a pair, but in my experience the bushings definitely didn't feel that hard.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=109188.0

Alright perfect, thanks man, 90a it is. It seemed bizarre to me that a company would use such hard bushings stock, glad that's clarified.

Edit; Oh shit nvm they're 94 I guess?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 01, 2020, 09:15:47 PM
Was wondering what is the design difference that causes the height difference between Venture Lo (48.3) and Hi (53.5)? Is it a difference in baseplate thickness? Or how the hanger is designed?

The talk of frankentrucks in the earlier pages got me thinking about fitting 5.6 V-Hollows on a set of 5.2 Lo Baseplate which I can get for cheap. Wondered what the resulting truck height would be and if it would even fit together. This would give a lightweight truck that can be used on both long and short WB decks (14 - 14.25 boards).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 01, 2020, 09:27:29 PM
Was wondering what is the design difference that causes the height difference between Venture Lo (48.3) and Hi (53.5)? Is it a difference in baseplate thickness? Or how the hanger is designed?

The talk of frankentrucks in the earlier pages got me thinking about fitting 5.6 V-Hollows on a set of 5.2 Lo Baseplate which I can get for cheap. Wondered what the resulting truck height would be and if it would even fit together. This would give a lightweight truck that can be used on both long and short WB decks (14 - 14.25 boards).

I assumed it was the hanger just by looking from up front. You can see way more of the "wings" on the high with a way bigger yoke and other stuff while the baseplates, at least seem, to look the same
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ItsNoUse on March 01, 2020, 11:29:21 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/DFkUBt2.png?1)

I really like these. Never rode Ventures, never thought I would want too, but these make me question that thought. Only found them in 8.5 though, so that's a bummer.

I'm a total sucker for raw trucks on black baseplates.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on March 02, 2020, 02:22:44 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/DFkUBt2.png?1)

I really like these. Never rode Ventures, never thought I would want too, but these make me question that thought. Only found them in 8.5 though, so that's a bummer.

I'm a total sucker for raw trucks on black baseplates.
What size are you looking for? I have 8" raw hanger black baseplate, I would sell off
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 02, 2020, 03:01:07 AM
What is the consensus on the stock bushings? Everyone riding them stock? Iím riding the hards on my thunders now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chappers on March 02, 2020, 03:26:46 AM
What is the consensus on the stock bushings? Everyone riding them stock? Iím riding the hards on my thunders now

Always stock on ventures personally
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: slappyjoes on March 02, 2020, 03:32:03 AM
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Iv been thinking about making the switch from indys to ventures. Iv been riding indys for a while now but iv never had a pair of ventures kinda curious to see what they are like

Is the turning like indys or more like thunder?

How high are they compared to indys?

Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?
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Did you read this thread at all?

Is the turning like indys or more like thunder?

Neither, somewhere in the middle.

How high are they compared to indys?

Lower than Indy cast but the sameish as Indy forged.

Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest


Sorry i was to lazy to read thru the thread and i didnt wanna start a new one
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 02, 2020, 04:28:40 AM
What is the consensus on the stock bushings? Everyone riding them stock? Iím riding the hards on my thunders now
a lot of discussion in this recently but displaced in a few threads. Posted a thread link a few posts up about stock durometer. People use bones top washer also Iíve seen.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 02, 2020, 05:55:52 AM
Missed the link. Iíll try the stocks but I orders some supercush because why not. Kinda excited trying something new
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 02, 2020, 06:38:58 AM
Missed the link. Iíll try the stocks but I orders some supercush because why not. Kinda excited trying something new
which duro supercush? from where? i'm was debating the 94a but the confusion about stock being 90a or 94a just made me pump the brakes and ride what i got for now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on March 02, 2020, 07:17:00 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/eTii7re_d.jpg?maxwidth=400&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Iíve been riding these 5.8ís mainly just cruising the neighborhood and messing around in front of the house with my daughter. The bushings are getting nice and broken in now. Ace 55s with the axle nut basically flush (turned down just a smidge) is my go to and I have zero complaints about how these Ventures feel now.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on March 02, 2020, 07:22:26 AM
Ridiní stock*

Only recent tweak, swapped the bottom washer out for a flat, sleeved (aka ďAmishĒ) washer, that canít lean over on your kingpin. Same theory as the Bones ďplastic bitĒ but on a nice fat base.

(https://i.imgur.com/pFWD1iD_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Gives a little more ďdiveĒ from medium-tight  without messing with the geo/duro/bushing cut/stability/feel tooo much.

*fresh white stock, from another factory set.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 02, 2020, 07:39:44 AM
Guys riding Ventures that stretch out WB - be aware of board length. Got a rude awakening by pairing my Venture Lo Hollow Lights with a short deck (8 x 31.6 x 14), tail ended up being way too short and I was ghost popping all way. Still liking them on a longer board (31.8) and short WB (14).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 02, 2020, 08:19:32 AM
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Missed the link. Iíll try the stocks but I orders some supercush because why not. Kinda excited trying something new
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which duro supercush? from where? i'm was debating the 94a but the confusion about stock being 90a or 94a just made me pump the brakes and ride what i got for now
I went with the 97a purple on amazon because I have a gift card but also saw that plus Skateshop had them. Didnít have the 94 in stock.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 02, 2020, 08:38:14 AM
Guys riding Ventures that stretch out WB - be aware of board length. Got a rude awakening by pairing my Venture Lo Hollow Lights with a short deck (8 x 31.6 x 14), tail ended up being way too short and I was ghost popping all way. Still liking them on a longer board (31.8) and short WB (14).
I ride a short board but hopefully the cast doesnít hurt me as much as the lights would
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 02, 2020, 08:49:06 AM
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Guys riding Ventures that stretch out WB - be aware of board length. Got a rude awakening by pairing my Venture Lo Hollow Lights with a short deck (8 x 31.6 x 14), tail ended up being way too short and I was ghost popping all way. Still liking them on a longer board (31.8) and short WB (14).
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I ride a short board but hopefully the cast doesnít hurt me as much as the lights would

It was a dwindle which I was reminded today have really short boards. 3.15 to 3.25 trucks should be ok on most short boards, but this will be my last dwindle board for a long while.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 02, 2020, 08:57:31 AM
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Guys riding Ventures that stretch out WB - be aware of board length. Got a rude awakening by pairing my Venture Lo Hollow Lights with a short deck (8 x 31.6 x 14), tail ended up being way too short and I was ghost popping all way. Still liking them on a longer board (31.8) and short WB (14).
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I ride a short board but hopefully the cast doesnít hurt me as much as the lights would
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It was a dwindle which I was reminded today have really short boards. 3.15 to 3.25 trucks should be ok on most short boards, but this will be my last dwindle board for a long while.
Also wonder how the tail steepness affects it. Dwindle does a fair amount or steep kicks donít they? I remember looking for a mellow kick/concave and not finding one
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 02, 2020, 10:33:34 AM
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Guys riding Ventures that stretch out WB - be aware of board length. Got a rude awakening by pairing my Venture Lo Hollow Lights with a short deck (8 x 31.6 x 14), tail ended up being way too short and I was ghost popping all way. Still liking them on a longer board (31.8) and short WB (14).
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I ride a short board but hopefully the cast doesnít hurt me as much as the lights would
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It was a dwindle which I was reminded today have really short boards. 3.15 to 3.25 trucks should be ok on most short boards, but this will be my last dwindle board for a long while.
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Also wonder how the tail steepness affects it. Dwindle does a fair amount or steep kicks donít they? I remember looking for a mellow kick/concave and not finding one

Almost all Almost decks have steep kicks/mellow concave - they do break it up tho -you have to sort through the brands, e.g., Blind have way more Steep/FULL concave than the rest, Darkstar has the most variety out of the brands.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: stets on March 02, 2020, 01:28:07 PM
Ridiní stock*

Only recent tweak, swapped the bottom washer out for a flat, sleeved (aka ďAmishĒ) washer, that canít lean over on your kingpin. Same theory as the Bones ďplastic bitĒ but on a nice fat base.

(https://i.imgur.com/pFWD1iD_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Gives a little more ďdiveĒ from medium-tight  without messing with the geo/duro/bushing cut/stability/feel tooo much.

*fresh white stock, from another factory set.

Interesting bottom washer/"bushing cup"... is this something made by a skate company? Or did you have to source them from a hardware place like FastenAll or Macmaster Carr?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 02, 2020, 02:28:53 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/3r6upd.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/3r6upd)via Imgflip Meme Generator (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)



The purple barrels is perfect though
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on March 02, 2020, 02:38:51 PM
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Ridiní stock*

Only recent tweak, swapped the bottom washer out for a flat, sleeved (aka ďAmishĒ) washer, that canít lean over on your kingpin. Same theory as the Bones ďplastic bitĒ but on a nice fat base.

(https://i.imgur.com/pFWD1iD_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Gives a little more ďdiveĒ from medium-tight  without messing with the geo/duro/bushing cut/stability/feel tooo much.

*fresh white stock, from another factory set.
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Interesting bottom washer/"bushing cup"... is this something made by a skate company? Or did you have to source them from a hardware place like FastenAll or Macmaster Carr?

Hey, it is sort of a skate company (*cough* longboard...) itís this  https://holyboardshop.com/vital-precision-flat-washer-25mm? (https://holyboardshop.com/vital-precision-flat-washer-25mm?) part, flat, no cup  :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Fred Gerwer Frank Gall on March 02, 2020, 03:01:52 PM
Ridiní stock*

Only recent tweak, swapped the bottom washer out for a flat, sleeved (aka ďAmishĒ) washer, that canít lean over on your kingpin. Same theory as the Bones ďplastic bitĒ but on a nice fat base.

(https://i.imgur.com/pFWD1iD_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Gives a little more ďdiveĒ from medium-tight  without messing with the geo/duro/bushing cut/stability/feel tooo much.

*fresh white stock, from another factory set.

 Really trying not to try Ventures but damn you that photo is some truck porn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on March 02, 2020, 04:57:31 PM
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Ridiní stock*

Only recent tweak, swapped the bottom washer out for a flat, sleeved (aka ďAmishĒ) washer, that canít lean over on your kingpin. Same theory as the Bones ďplastic bitĒ but on a nice fat base.

(https://i.imgur.com/pFWD1iD_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Gives a little more ďdiveĒ from medium-tight  without messing with the geo/duro/bushing cut/stability/feel tooo much.

*fresh white stock, from another factory set.
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Interesting bottom washer/"bushing cup"... is this something made by a skate company? Or did you have to source them from a hardware place like FastenAll or Macmaster Carr?
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Hey, it is sort of a skate company (*cough* longboard...) itís this  https://holyboardshop.com/vital-precision-flat-washer-25mm? (https://holyboardshop.com/vital-precision-flat-washer-25mm?) part, flat, no cup  :)
Yep. Kooky kooky longboard stuff but interesting..
https://www.muirskate.com/longboard/hardware/all/washers Array washers..

http://www.sk8kings.com Used to sell a machined top washer too. I think it was aluminum and made by Oust. Seemed like a freestyler thing to help with super tight trucks. Nla now


https://www.mcmaster.com/92668a195 Should be similar to Bones washer
3/8" id, 3/4" od, 1/8" thick
Both sides will be ground flat and parallel to each other
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 02, 2020, 05:14:57 PM
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Guys riding Ventures that stretch out WB - be aware of board length. Got a rude awakening by pairing my Venture Lo Hollow Lights with a short deck (8 x 31.6 x 14), tail ended up being way too short and I was ghost popping all way. Still liking them on a longer board (31.8) and short WB (14).
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I ride a short board but hopefully the cast doesnít hurt me as much as the lights would
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It was a dwindle which I was reminded today have really short boards. 3.15 to 3.25 trucks should be ok on most short boards, but this will be my last dwindle board for a long while.
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Also wonder how the tail steepness affects it. Dwindle does a fair amount or steep kicks donít they? I remember looking for a mellow kick/concave and not finding one
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Almost all Almost decks have steep kicks/mellow concave - they do break it up tho -you have to sort through the brands, e.g., Blind have way more Steep/FULL concave than the rest, Darkstar has the most variety out of the brands.

Darkstar and Blind have steep / Full concaves, probably didn't help the short tail to make it harder to find the pop.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 02, 2020, 07:14:01 PM
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Ridin’ stock*

Only recent tweak, swapped the bottom washer out for a flat, sleeved (aka “Amish”) washer, that can’t lean over on your kingpin. Same theory as the Bones “plastic bit” but on a nice fat base.

(https://i.imgur.com/pFWD1iD_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium)

Gives a little more “dive” from medium-tight  without messing with the geo/duro/bushing cut/stability/feel tooo much.

*fresh white stock, from another factory set.
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Interesting bottom washer/"bushing cup"... is this something made by a skate company? Or did you have to source them from a hardware place like FastenAll or Macmaster Carr?
[close]

Hey, it is sort of a skate company (*cough* longboard...) it’s this  https://holyboardshop.com/vital-precision-flat-washer-25mm? (https://holyboardshop.com/vital-precision-flat-washer-25mm?) part, flat, no cup  :)
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Yep. Kooky kooky longboard stuff but interesting..
https://www.muirskate.com/longboard/hardware/all/washers Array washers..

http://www.sk8kings.com Used to sell a machined top washer too. I think it was aluminum and made by Oust. Seemed like a freestyler thing to help with super tight trucks. Nla now


https://www.mcmaster.com/92668a195 Should be similar to Bones washer
3/8" id, 3/4" od, 1/8" thick
Both sides will be ground flat and parallel to each other

Funny, I just yesterday ordered a full set for top and bottom (and I found some slim/thin nylon locknuts) to pair up with the some ace bushings on ventures. Great minds ;)

I was researching T nut and shit and came across these.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 05, 2020, 04:33:48 PM
After learning venture stock bushings are actually pretty hard part me me feels like I should give them another try after swapping the bushings and pivot cups out since I don't remember swapping bushings while I skated a pair. On the other hand it'd be a bummer to go through swapping everything out and still not liking how they turn compared to something like my ATGs. I keep seeing a mix of posts of some people who say they can feel as good as ace and others who say they felt slow even after changing the washers, bushings, etc. so it's hard to tell. I do remember I got them decently broken in but I could never get them to turn as sharp/quick/deep as I liked. Dunno if I'd do the bones top washer thing since I feel like I'd accidentally hit the bushing if I fucked up a dipped grind, which I fuck up a lot. I do remember the stability and pop being nice, also I remember crooks feeling very different on them, like I was grinding the front of the truck compared to the round bit like on say an indy. Much to think about.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: m477 on March 05, 2020, 07:31:17 PM
^^ yeah Iíd agree that the ventures have a harder stock bushing than normal (at least thatís the case with my 6.1s, which Iím very happy about). However they turn nothing like Indy or ace. The pop on the other hand is incredible! These are the first ventures Iíve had since 99/2000 and the sacrifice in turn is well worth the pop upgrade in my old age haha. I also agree on the feel of crooked grinds. Not bad but definitely a bit different.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 05, 2020, 07:34:24 PM
After learning venture stock bushings are actually pretty hard part me me feels like I should give them another try after swapping the bushings and pivot cups out since I don't remember swapping bushings while I skated a pair. On the other hand it'd be a bummer to go through swapping everything out and still not liking how they turn compared to something like my ATGs. I keep seeing a mix of posts of some people who say they can feel as good as ace and others who say they felt slow even after changing the washers, bushings, etc. so it's hard to tell. I do remember I got them decently broken in but I could never get them to turn as sharp/quick/deep as I liked. Dunno if I'd do the bones top washer thing since I feel like I'd accidentally hit the bushing if I fucked up a dipped grind, which I fuck up a lot. I do remember the stability and pop being nice, also I remember crooks feeling very different on them, like I was grinding the front of the truck compared to the round bit like on say an indy. Much to think about.

ATGs turn better, for sure.

But the lower Venture has better pop (for me).

These days I find that I only need trucks that 'turn' (meaning ACE, Indy, Theeve, Tensor or ML) if I'm skating bowls (which I'm trying to do less and less these days to get the street game back up to par). Thunder and Venture do just find if I'm out in the streets where swerving is more the norm than carving.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 05, 2020, 07:40:13 PM
^^ yeah Iíd agree that the ventures have a harder stock bushing than normal (at least thatís the case with my 6.1s, which Iím very happy about). However they turn nothing like Indy or ace. The pop on the other hand is incredible! These are the first ventures Iíve had since 99/2000 and the sacrifice in turn is well worth the pop upgrade in my old age haha. I also agree on the feel of crooked grinds. Not bad but definitely a bit different.

Thanks for the info man, You riding the hi's or lows? Honestly I never really notice how a truck pops after a sesh to get used to the them, unless I actively focus on it while doing tricks stationary. With that said I'm glad there's truck variety for people who really want that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: m477 on March 05, 2020, 08:01:55 PM
Theyíre high, donít think they make a 6.1 low. I just posted in the truck wb thread, but Iíll reiterate here. The effective axle wb on my previous black label 8.75, 14.5 wb with ace 55 is the same as my current primitive 8.6, 14wb with venture 6.1. That being said the turn on the ventures is more of a lean than a carve, however the pop really takes off when you snap the tail.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 05, 2020, 08:21:02 PM
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After learning venture stock bushings are actually pretty hard part me me feels like I should give them another try after swapping the bushings and pivot cups out since I don't remember swapping bushings while I skated a pair. On the other hand it'd be a bummer to go through swapping everything out and still not liking how they turn compared to something like my ATGs. I keep seeing a mix of posts of some people who say they can feel as good as ace and others who say they felt slow even after changing the washers, bushings, etc. so it's hard to tell. I do remember I got them decently broken in but I could never get them to turn as sharp/quick/deep as I liked. Dunno if I'd do the bones top washer thing since I feel like I'd accidentally hit the bushing if I fucked up a dipped grind, which I fuck up a lot. I do remember the stability and pop being nice, also I remember crooks feeling very different on them, like I was grinding the front of the truck compared to the round bit like on say an indy. Much to think about.
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ATGs turn better, for sure.

But the lower Venture has better pop (for me).

These days I find that I only need trucks that 'turn' (meaning ACE, Indy, Theeve, Tensor or ML) if I'm skating bowls (which I'm trying to do less and less these days to get the street game back up to par). Thunder and Venture do just find if I'm out in the streets where swerving is more the norm than carving.

Thanks for the info as well, always appreciated, I think this solves my dilemma. I guess I just never notice the pop stuff as much as other people, like I skated my buddies thunders then went back to my setup didn't really notice the pop difference, but every time I tried to turn with his setup, even on his broken bushings, I kept tipping the board onto two wheels or wheelbiting. I think I have a bias for turny trucks cause I usually skate this kinda shit prefab near my place where everything is really close together, so everyone rides loose or tic tacks a ton to be able to do any sort of line, thus said bias. I honestly never skate bowl, I just wanna be able to skate lines at my shitty park lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 05, 2020, 08:30:51 PM
Theyíre high, donít think they make a 6.1 low. I just posted in the truck wb thread, but Iíll reiterate here. The effective axle wb on my previous black label 8.75, 14.5 wb with ace 55 is the same as my current primitive 8.6, 14wb with venture 6.1. That being said the turn on the ventures is more of a lean than a carve, however the pop really takes off when you snap the tail.

Thanks again for the info. Yeah lean is usually what bugs me with trucks so this is good to know. I try not to worry about wb too much since the wb on boards in the size I like are usually around 14.5, maybe 14.25 at the lowest if it's available. But it sounds like my overall setup wb would be uber wide if I went to venture on around a 14.5 wb which I might actually notice and not be into. Maybe I'll try a buddies setup again and see if I can really notice pop feel for once
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Big Baby Jesus on March 06, 2020, 04:21:56 AM
Just got the Bobby 5.8 his. What's the consensus on bushings? Stock or aftermarket?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 06, 2020, 09:32:15 AM
Just got the Bobby 5.8 his. What's the consensus on bushings? Stock or aftermarket?

Seems to be more on stock than aftermarket (I didn't like stocks).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on March 06, 2020, 09:50:00 AM
I tried indy stocks, bones, and a couple combos with different washers/no washer.

They felt best stock, they'll never be carvy. but they turn. they remind me of that slow turn of stage 10 Indys when they do feel turny. once you get them super loose you kill the stability that makes them good trucks though.

I'm saving mine for summer when the 90+ degree weather turns my bushings into mush in the trunk on the way to the park, I'm sure they'll feel awesome. but these 30-40 degree days haven't done me any favors with any trucks let alone dlx trucks that like to be stock and don't turn good when it's cold. Indys and ace for winter because they still kind of turn okay when they freeze up.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 06, 2020, 10:04:45 AM
^^ yeah I’d agree that the ventures have a harder stock bushing than normal (at least that’s the case with my 6.1s, which I’m very happy about). However they turn nothing like Indy or ace. The pop on the other hand is incredible! These are the first ventures I’ve had since 99/2000 and the sacrifice in turn is well worth the pop upgrade in my old age haha. I also agree on the feel of crooked grinds. Not bad but definitely a bit different.

With your hands on the wall extended arms mark the floor
Put your board there parallel to the wall.
Stand on the rail and rock back and forth touching your nose and tail to the wall always returning to the centered mark on the floor.

Mark where your nose and tail touched the wall.

My 5.6 hi with a 14.25 wb turns exactly the same as the ace 44 with a 14.5.

Both have cracked Bones med top and stock bottom barrels

I run no thread count on the 5.6 and
Like 1.5 threads on the ace 44 1/8 riser



The ace 44 and the indy 139 and the 5.6 were all basically the same at 48 inches away from the wall.

The venture doesn't wheel bite on the manny pad ever.

The ace has a 1/8 riser so not to get wheel bite as much but you must have great balance to ride my aces on the manny pad.

The 44 and the 5.6 are my favorite trucks since the tfour dropped. Also that 3rd GK was a killer truck. G&S if you was light. Those were the first hollow truck I remember

-stoned rant. The truck info I swear is legit.

You got to change wheelbase and bushings to get similar effects of a different truck
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 06, 2020, 11:50:56 AM
My issue would be going through all the effort of designing a setup to get these trucks to turn only to not like how they turn, when I could just use a truck I know turns on any board and be fine. Obviously I'm compromising on stability and pop but I don't notice that as much as other people I guess so my priorities vary. I also don't have any broken bushings on had so idk what I'd do there, plus I'm weary to throw bones top washers for reasons I mentioned earlier. I'm sure you can get them to turn, but if it requires already broken bushings, specific washers, and getting a new deck with a specific cap on the wb I don't think they're for me. With that said, if someone finds a dream setup with this info that'd be sick
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 06, 2020, 12:00:47 PM
My issue would be going through all the effort of designing a setup to get these trucks to turn only to not like how they turn, when I could just use a truck I know turns on any board and be fine. Obviously I'm compromising on stability and pop but I don't notice that as much as other people I guess so my priorities vary. I also don't have any broken bushings on had so idk what I'd do there, plus I'm weary to throw bones top washers for reasons I mentioned earlier. I'm sure you can get them to turn, but if it requires already broken bushings, specific washers, and getting a new deck with a specific cap on the wb I don't think they're for me. With that said, if someone finds a dream setup with this info that'd be sick

ACE bushings (dual Duro) low top/Regular bottoms work amazing in Ventures, waaaay better than stock but not a small investment.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 06, 2020, 01:01:10 PM
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My issue would be going through all the effort of designing a setup to get these trucks to turn only to not like how they turn, when I could just use a truck I know turns on any board and be fine. Obviously I'm compromising on stability and pop but I don't notice that as much as other people I guess so my priorities vary. I also don't have any broken bushings on had so idk what I'd do there, plus I'm weary to throw bones top washers for reasons I mentioned earlier. I'm sure you can get them to turn, but if it requires already broken bushings, specific washers, and getting a new deck with a specific cap on the wb I don't think they're for me. With that said, if someone finds a dream setup with this info that'd be sick
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ACE bushings (dual Duro) low top/Regular bottoms work amazing in Ventures, waaaay better than stock but not a small investment.

Yeah I could see ace bushings being great, is this with the bones top washer or a normal one? I have a nice broken in pair from my ace trucks, I'd just have to shave down the top bushing, but them it wouldn't fit the aces lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 06, 2020, 02:42:47 PM
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My issue would be going through all the effort of designing a setup to get these trucks to turn only to not like how they turn, when I could just use a truck I know turns on any board and be fine. Obviously I'm compromising on stability and pop but I don't notice that as much as other people I guess so my priorities vary. I also don't have any broken bushings on had so idk what I'd do there, plus I'm weary to throw bones top washers for reasons I mentioned earlier. I'm sure you can get them to turn, but if it requires already broken bushings, specific washers, and getting a new deck with a specific cap on the wb I don't think they're for me. With that said, if someone finds a dream setup with this info that'd be sick
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ACE bushings (dual Duro) low top/Regular bottoms work amazing in Ventures, waaaay better than stock but not a small investment.
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Yeah I could see ace bushings being great, is this with the bones top washer or a normal one? I have a nice broken in pair from my ace trucks, I'd just have to shave down the top bushing, but them it wouldn't fit the aces lol

I use the ACE low top, regular bottom and the bones washer on top, but just rev'd up to these for top and bottom:

https://www.muirskate.com/longboard/products/54061/array-machined-cone-sleeved-washers

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 06, 2020, 04:49:20 PM
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My issue would be going through all the effort of designing a setup to get these trucks to turn only to not like how they turn, when I could just use a truck I know turns on any board and be fine. Obviously I'm compromising on stability and pop but I don't notice that as much as other people I guess so my priorities vary. I also don't have any broken bushings on had so idk what I'd do there, plus I'm weary to throw bones top washers for reasons I mentioned earlier. I'm sure you can get them to turn, but if it requires already broken bushings, specific washers, and getting a new deck with a specific cap on the wb I don't think they're for me. With that said, if someone finds a dream setup with this info that'd be sick
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ACE bushings (dual Duro) low top/Regular bottoms work amazing in Ventures, waaaay better than stock but not a small investment.
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Yeah I could see ace bushings being great, is this with the bones top washer or a normal one? I have a nice broken in pair from my ace trucks, I'd just have to shave down the top bushing, but them it wouldn't fit the aces lol
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I use the ACE low top, regular bottom and the bones washer on top, but just rev'd up to these for top and bottom:

https://www.muirskate.com/longboard/products/54061/array-machined-cone-sleeved-washers

Ah ok, damn you got everything picked out and customized, cool. Do you think those array washers make a noticeable difference?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 06, 2020, 05:29:27 PM
Stock yellow bottoms and stock thunder white tops for now.
40į today felt a little squirly with but flush with washer, gave em a half turn and could still turn 180 with ease but def less forgiving turn wise.
I’m 200 lbs and would consider supercush 94a maybe, not sure which duro to go for. Def prefer stability.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 06, 2020, 05:32:30 PM
Stock yellow bottoms and stock thunder white tops for now.
40į today felt a little squirly with but flush with washer, gave em a half turn and could still turn 180 with ease but def less forgiving turn wise.
Iím 200 lbs and would consider supercush 94a maybe, not sure which duro to go for. Def prefer stability.
Iím 200 and just got the 97a. Will report back
Tgm has both duros in stock. Might grab 94a too
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 144p on March 06, 2020, 05:41:48 PM
Riding 94a supercush and am in the same size range as you.
97 is pretty damn hard, have tried both in ventures and thunders.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 06, 2020, 06:23:18 PM
Props to all the bushing wizardry. Thinking about it now one of the reasons I probably struggled with the trucks when I had them was cause I was a twig at the time. Cool to hear people have it figured out though, I'm surprised venture doesn't offer different duros of aftermarket bushings under their own name but since other stuff fits fine I guess it's all good
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 06, 2020, 06:39:04 PM
Riding 94a supercush and am in the same size range as you.
97 is pretty damn hard, have tried both in ventures and thunders.
Ordered the 94. Going to try the stock ones first on Monday and go from there. Only thing Iíll do is put some riptides in
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 06, 2020, 06:42:41 PM
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Stock yellow bottoms and stock thunder white tops for now.
40į today felt a little squirly with but flush with washer, gave em a half turn and could still turn 180 with ease but def less forgiving turn wise.
Iím 200 lbs and would consider supercush 94a maybe, not sure which duro to go for. Def prefer stability.
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Iím 200 and just got the 97a. Will report back
Tgm has both duros in stock. Might grab 94a too
Riding 94a supercush and am in the same size range as you.
97 is pretty damn hard, have tried both in ventures and thunders.
cool thanks. Report back. 94a probably a sweet spot for us.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 144p on March 07, 2020, 11:47:18 AM
My shop does have some of the supercush duros but dlx has them in stock rarely.
http://www.35thave.com/shop/Skate/Accessories/Bushings.htm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on March 07, 2020, 11:53:45 AM
Wish you could buy the stock purples. Want a pair for aesthetic reasons. If anyone wants greens and has purples lemme know. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 07, 2020, 11:59:40 AM
Wish you could buy the stock purples. Want a pair for aesthetic reasons. If anyone wants greens and has purples lemme know.

I have some just sitting around. DM me and we can work it out.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: authentic_creed_bratton on March 07, 2020, 12:59:57 PM
damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drewsmahgoos on March 07, 2020, 01:20:00 PM
So I've got a pair of the 5.2 wenture lows. I've got to say, I really love them. They're currently on an 8 inch scumco deck with a 14.25 wheelbase that buttfart rapedick very graciously sent me. Using 52mm wheels. Very comfortable to skate and like how others have said, the manuals come easily. I don't skate super lose trucks but I'm absolutely not skating crazy tight either. The ventures turn about as well as I could expect with low trucks. I love these things now and its crazy because I was never a venture guy but I had gotten these a while ago because I wanted low trucks that would fit a smaller deck I had gotten for free. The deck didnt work out but this scumco is in a huge way. I think I'm sold on ventures at this point. I'm going to try film trucks but I for sure will end up woth more venture 5.2 lows.


Do people find the v lights to be worth it?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on March 07, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
So I've got a pair of the 5.2 wenture lows. I've got to say, I really love them. They're currently on an 8 inch scumco deck with a 14.25 wheelbase that buttfart rapedick very graciously sent me. Using 52mm wheels. Very comfortable to skate and like how others have said, the manuals come easily. I don't skate super lose trucks but I'm absolutely not skating crazy tight either. The ventures turn about as well as I could expect with low trucks. I love these things now and its crazy because I was never a venture guy but I had gotten these a while ago because I wanted low trucks that would fit a smaller deck I had gotten for free. The deck didnt work out but this scumco is in a huge way. I think I'm sold on ventures at this point. I'm going to try film trucks but I for sure will end up woth more venture 5.2 lows.


Do people find the v lights to be worth it?
I put 5.2 lows with 52s on a 8.25 today and I really like it.I tried 5.2 highs with 54s on a different 8.25 a while ago and it was not good for Me. It's crazy what a few mm's can do!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: whatsreallygood on March 07, 2020, 04:57:08 PM
Wish you could buy the stock purples. Want a pair for aesthetic reasons. If anyone wants greens and has purples lemme know.

If I can find my old purple 5.2 highs I'll let you know
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 07, 2020, 05:31:35 PM
Purples look dope but I think the greens do too
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 07, 2020, 08:00:19 PM
My issue would be going through all the effort of designing a setup to get these trucks to turn only to not like how they turn, when I could just use a truck I know turns on any board and be fine. Obviously I'm compromising on stability and pop but I don't notice that as much as other people I guess so my priorities vary. I also don't have any broken bushings on had so idk what I'd do there, plus I'm weary to throw bones top washers for reasons I mentioned earlier. I'm sure you can get them to turn, but if it requires already broken bushings, specific washers, and getting a new deck with a specific cap on the wb I don't think they're for me. With that said, if someone finds a dream setup with this info that'd be sick

bang them shits with a hammer.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on March 07, 2020, 08:23:30 PM
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Wish you could buy the stock purples. Want a pair for aesthetic reasons. If anyone wants greens and has purples lemme know.
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I have some just sitting around. DM me and we can work it out.
PMíd
Love the purples, shouldíve just bought regular raws because I knew Iíd want those bushings lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 11, 2020, 09:53:41 AM
On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 11, 2020, 10:23:23 AM
On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well

Using a flat washer on ALL (to prevent binding) and with Riptide Pivot cups:

I tried:

Stock purples
Bones: Medium and Soft
Indy 88a (red) conical and barrel bottom
Ace low tops / regular bottoms (remember ACE are dual duro

The ACEs bushing seriously outperformed everything else, no questions. They made the Venture swerve a more surfy swerve and the hope is that with these washers to give them an even more responsive feel on top of the dual duro mechanic.

damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jSx9xiEXYSn3_PBZs7GyQzCLWWr63hrBfuF0hqsHmyrxAWC25kyYHt3W-kj3dw76pmoBoKaczEQpTCtyWfJyKzva05xUi-RUUdJX1k_HOa31wAztixB0h8bP-v6VkjbjKrv9ZVb47wQ)

Waiting in the wings for either some 6.1 Ventures or these fabled Indy Mids (and ACE bushings as noted above): Riptides, the muir skate washers and those Acer racing low profile Ti nuts (FWIW the KP nuts are 2g lighter each (and about 2mm lower than regs), axle nuts are about 1g lighter than regs but much thinner, with these you can really stack the speed rings to push those wheels out).


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: pointandclick on March 11, 2020, 10:36:38 AM
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On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well
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Using a flat washer on ALL (to prevent binding) and with Riptide Pivot cups:

I tried:

Stock purples
Bones: Medium and Soft
Indy 88a (red) conical and barrel bottom
Ace low tops / regular bottoms (remember ACE are dual duro

The ACEs bushing seriously outperformed everything else, no questions. They made the Venture swerve a more surfy swerve and the hope is that with these washers to give them an even more responsive feel on top of the dual duro mechanic.

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damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jSx9xiEXYSn3_PBZs7GyQzCLWWr63hrBfuF0hqsHmyrxAWC25kyYHt3W-kj3dw76pmoBoKaczEQpTCtyWfJyKzva05xUi-RUUdJX1k_HOa31wAztixB0h8bP-v6VkjbjKrv9ZVb47wQ)

Waiting in the wings for either some 6.1 Ventures or these fabled Indy Mids (and ACE bushings as noted above): Riptides, the muir skate washers and those Acer racing low profile Ti nuts (FWIW the KP nuts are 2g lighter each (and about 2mm lower than regs), axle nuts are about 1g lighter than regs but much thinner, with these you can really stack the speed rings to push those wheels out).
can i get someone to mail me a set of array washers from muir? i checked and its going to cost $97 american to ship them up to canada. if anyone is willing to hook it up i'd be greatful.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 11, 2020, 11:20:14 AM
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On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well
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Using a flat washer on ALL (to prevent binding) and with Riptide Pivot cups:

I tried:

Stock purples
Bones: Medium and Soft
Indy 88a (red) conical and barrel bottom
Ace low tops / regular bottoms (remember ACE are dual duro

The ACEs bushing seriously outperformed everything else, no questions. They made the Venture swerve a more surfy swerve and the hope is that with these washers to give them an even more responsive feel on top of the dual duro mechanic.

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damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jSx9xiEXYSn3_PBZs7GyQzCLWWr63hrBfuF0hqsHmyrxAWC25kyYHt3W-kj3dw76pmoBoKaczEQpTCtyWfJyKzva05xUi-RUUdJX1k_HOa31wAztixB0h8bP-v6VkjbjKrv9ZVb47wQ)

Waiting in the wings for either some 6.1 Ventures or these fabled Indy Mids (and ACE bushings as noted above): Riptides, the muir skate washers and those Acer racing low profile Ti nuts (FWIW the KP nuts are 2g lighter each (and about 2mm lower than regs), axle nuts are about 1g lighter than regs but much thinner, with these you can really stack the speed rings to push those wheels out).
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can i get someone to mail me a set of array washers from muir? i checked and its going to cost $97 american to ship them up to canada. if anyone is willing to hook it up i'd be greatful.

97 dollars is insane.

I was thinking more board truck combos but now I almost want to buy a set of these washers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: pointandclick on March 11, 2020, 11:32:59 AM
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On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well
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Using a flat washer on ALL (to prevent binding) and with Riptide Pivot cups:

I tried:

Stock purples
Bones: Medium and Soft
Indy 88a (red) conical and barrel bottom
Ace low tops / regular bottoms (remember ACE are dual duro

The ACEs bushing seriously outperformed everything else, no questions. They made the Venture swerve a more surfy swerve and the hope is that with these washers to give them an even more responsive feel on top of the dual duro mechanic.

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damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jSx9xiEXYSn3_PBZs7GyQzCLWWr63hrBfuF0hqsHmyrxAWC25kyYHt3W-kj3dw76pmoBoKaczEQpTCtyWfJyKzva05xUi-RUUdJX1k_HOa31wAztixB0h8bP-v6VkjbjKrv9ZVb47wQ)

Waiting in the wings for either some 6.1 Ventures or these fabled Indy Mids (and ACE bushings as noted above): Riptides, the muir skate washers and those Acer racing low profile Ti nuts (FWIW the KP nuts are 2g lighter each (and about 2mm lower than regs), axle nuts are about 1g lighter than regs but much thinner, with these you can really stack the speed rings to push those wheels out).
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can i get someone to mail me a set of array washers from muir? i checked and its going to cost $97 american to ship them up to canada. if anyone is willing to hook it up i'd be greatful.
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97 dollars is insane.

I was thinking more board truck combos but now I almost want to buy a set of these washers
its only because they dont have other options to ship to canada, their best response was to sign up for one of those out of country po: box services. if any pals are willing to be the middle man ill pay for shipping, just wanting to see if these end my truck madness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 11, 2020, 11:50:33 AM
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On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well
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Using a flat washer on ALL (to prevent binding) and with Riptide Pivot cups:

I tried:

Stock purples
Bones: Medium and Soft
Indy 88a (red) conical and barrel bottom
Ace low tops / regular bottoms (remember ACE are dual duro

The ACEs bushing seriously outperformed everything else, no questions. They made the Venture swerve a more surfy swerve and the hope is that with these washers to give them an even more responsive feel on top of the dual duro mechanic.

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damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jSx9xiEXYSn3_PBZs7GyQzCLWWr63hrBfuF0hqsHmyrxAWC25kyYHt3W-kj3dw76pmoBoKaczEQpTCtyWfJyKzva05xUi-RUUdJX1k_HOa31wAztixB0h8bP-v6VkjbjKrv9ZVb47wQ)

Waiting in the wings for either some 6.1 Ventures or these fabled Indy Mids (and ACE bushings as noted above): Riptides, the muir skate washers and those Acer racing low profile Ti nuts (FWIW the KP nuts are 2g lighter each (and about 2mm lower than regs), axle nuts are about 1g lighter than regs but much thinner, with these you can really stack the speed rings to push those wheels out).
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can i get someone to mail me a set of array washers from muir? i checked and its going to cost $97 american to ship them up to canada. if anyone is willing to hook it up i'd be greatful.
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97 dollars is insane.

I was thinking more board truck combos but now I almost want to buy a set of these washers
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its only because they dont have other options to ship to canada, their best response was to sign up for one of those out of country po: box services. if any pals are willing to be the middle man ill pay for shipping, just wanting to see if these end my truck madness.

I got you. DM me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on March 11, 2020, 06:10:31 PM
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On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well
[close]

Using a flat washer on ALL (to prevent binding) and with Riptide Pivot cups:

I tried:

Stock purples
Bones: Medium and Soft
Indy 88a (red) conical and barrel bottom
Ace low tops / regular bottoms (remember ACE are dual duro

The ACEs bushing seriously outperformed everything else, no questions. They made the Venture swerve a more surfy swerve and the hope is that with these washers to give them an even more responsive feel on top of the dual duro mechanic.

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damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jSx9xiEXYSn3_PBZs7GyQzCLWWr63hrBfuF0hqsHmyrxAWC25kyYHt3W-kj3dw76pmoBoKaczEQpTCtyWfJyKzva05xUi-RUUdJX1k_HOa31wAztixB0h8bP-v6VkjbjKrv9ZVb47wQ)

Waiting in the wings for either some 6.1 Ventures or these fabled Indy Mids (and ACE bushings as noted above): Riptides, the muir skate washers and those Acer racing low profile Ti nuts (FWIW the KP nuts are 2g lighter each (and about 2mm lower than regs), axle nuts are about 1g lighter than regs but much thinner, with these you can really stack the speed rings to push those wheels out).
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can i get someone to mail me a set of array washers from muir? i checked and its going to cost $97 american to ship them up to canada. if anyone is willing to hook it up i'd be greatful.
[close]

97 dollars is insane.

I was thinking more board truck combos but now I almost want to buy a set of these washers
[close]
its only because they dont have other options to ship to canada, their best response was to sign up for one of those out of country po: box services. if any pals are willing to be the middle man ill pay for shipping, just wanting to see if these end my truck madness.
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I got you. DM me.
Fwiw..
Array washers are 1.5mm thick, right?
That's 0.059" and should be thicker than normal cup washers. I can measure later..

Also not good to use Ti nuts on Ti threads (axles, kingpins). There's a chance of galling and damaging the threads.
The low lateral loads involved should make this a non-issue but thought I'd mention it.
Normally the thing to do would be use anti-seize but that would make the nyloc less effective.


Since we apparently geek the the same..
I was thinking of spacers instead of 3 speedrings on the inside..

http://www.sk8kings.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=SK8KINGS215&Category_Code=HW

https://www.mcmaster.com/91525a325

https://www.mcmaster.com/93320a355

Don't mean to come across like I'm saying to buy from McMaster-Carr.
It's just an easy site to search and they have pics/dimensions.
Look for a local industrial hardware store that'll sell retail without an account.
https://www.marshallshardware.com San Diego area
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ned Providence on March 12, 2020, 09:30:23 AM
I recently put some broken in Bones mediums in my 6.1's and thy turn super good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 12, 2020, 10:42:36 AM
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On a full se with some venture hi.
Curious what pairings you guys have had that has worked well
[close]

Using a flat washer on ALL (to prevent binding) and with Riptide Pivot cups:

I tried:

Stock purples
Bones: Medium and Soft
Indy 88a (red) conical and barrel bottom
Ace low tops / regular bottoms (remember ACE are dual duro

The ACEs bushing seriously outperformed everything else, no questions. They made the Venture swerve a more surfy swerve and the hope is that with these washers to give them an even more responsive feel on top of the dual duro mechanic.

Expand Quote
damn those array washers look great. i really want to try a set (https://www.muirskate.com/photos/products/2479/hd_product_Array-Cone-Flat-Washer-%282-Pack-HD%29.png)
[close]

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jSx9xiEXYSn3_PBZs7GyQzCLWWr63hrBfuF0hqsHmyrxAWC25kyYHt3W-kj3dw76pmoBoKaczEQpTCtyWfJyKzva05xUi-RUUdJX1k_HOa31wAztixB0h8bP-v6VkjbjKrv9ZVb47wQ)

Waiting in the wings for either some 6.1 Ventures or these fabled Indy Mids (and ACE bushings as noted above): Riptides, the muir skate washers and those Acer racing low profile Ti nuts (FWIW the KP nuts are 2g lighter each (and about 2mm lower than regs), axle nuts are about 1g lighter than regs but much thinner, with these you can really stack the speed rings to push those wheels out).
[close]
can i get someone to mail me a set of array washers from muir? i checked and its going to cost $97 american to ship them up to canada. if anyone is willing to hook it up i'd be greatful.
[close]

97 dollars is insane.

I was thinking more board truck combos but now I almost want to buy a set of these washers
[close]
its only because they dont have other options to ship to canada, their best response was to sign up for one of those out of country po: box services. if any pals are willing to be the middle man ill pay for shipping, just wanting to see if these end my truck madness.
[close]

I got you. DM me.
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Fwiw..
Array washers are 1.5mm thick, right?
That's 0.059" and should be thicker than normal cup washers. I can measure later..

Also not good to use Ti nuts on Ti threads (axles, kingpins). There's a chance of galling and damaging the threads.
The low lateral loads involved should make this a non-issue but thought I'd mention it.
Normally the thing to do would be use anti-seize but that would make the nyloc less effective.


Since we apparently geek the the same..
I was thinking of spacers instead of 3 speedrings on the inside..

http://www.sk8kings.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=SK8KINGS215&Category_Code=HW

https://www.mcmaster.com/91525a325

https://www.mcmaster.com/93320a355

Don't mean to come across like I'm saying to buy from McMaster-Carr.
It's just an easy site to search and they have pics/dimensions.
Look for a local industrial hardware store that'll sell retail without an account.
https://www.marshallshardware.com San Diego area

1.5mm - they may be a hair thicker compared to a bones washer (which I use almost exclusively for a top washer, and bottom anything with a conical bottom), which is thinner than a stock washer (I think). However, I am not worried since I am using a low top (ACE) bushing.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_PyPrwk5eRh18dTsZzGj_INd1SL7knh7C5OfCcFDAxu-sgvTmgmCj-iB3rPaveJYZarAd9O2zPvmqlV-Zur-GLe7PelVt9g2s5D6uIghhecA2rkLKRGU-wnE_CiyzbJeKiPrCcJTnCI)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/85dnsmzsBGeT36knzyekUoCc_911_yNoEAUaA8IUIXJ-hBhRDCT6MwvCJ-y68aC5HrI220D54ZDkoSEjje18dk5DyssBqSzi-ojl-nrkN_GHJKrS4g3htPOBysL5GZV9Ts_g834C-cg)

As for ti nuts/side load, I am willing to take that risk ;) I'd imagine on TI axles the risk would be less?

Those 1/8 spacers are  you thinking of using those as speedrings?

Makes me want to find those old versions of Theeve V3s with the TI Kingpins (they were so fucking light) and throw all the nuts and washers on them.

One could also just ride tensors (and put all those ti nuts and cone washers on them ;)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 12, 2020, 12:51:56 PM
Iím digging almost everything besides the size of my new trucks. I wish I would have gotten the 5.6 and not the 5.2
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: satan on March 12, 2020, 07:16:21 PM
Yeah. I was thinking 1/8" spacer should be about the same as 3 speedrings.
I'm remembering speedrings as 1mm thick but should double check.


I didn't even know if you had Ti trucks. Just thought I'd mention it.

Ti on steel isn't a problem.
The galling issue is with Ti-Ti threads, Ti bolt and Ti nut.
The metal can microweld, rip metal off the nut and weld it to the axle, or vice versa.
Fucks up the threads..

The only times I could see galling being an issue is when you first put the nut on cuz the threads will be a slightly different shape than the axle threads.
A drop of oil might work fine here..
But using the axle nut to fully seat a wheel bearing would be bad since it'd load the threads more.
That's what I meant by lateral loads but now you're making me wonder about primo stuff..

Ti kingpin might be iffy too..


I had a geeky stoner pipedream that involved Ace mag baseplates, Theeve Ti kingpin, possibly even Tensor ATG mag hangers.
Aluminum nuts might work but idk if I've seen them with nyloc.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 12, 2020, 07:28:48 PM
I recently put some broken in Bones mediums in my 6.1's and thy turn super good.

if gnar you if I could. Win.

Everyone should break the plastic right away. Shits stupid. The bushings is nice though it doesn't freeze easily.

Also if you stay stock bottom you can cut the bones bottoms and have double the value right

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 13, 2020, 06:32:38 AM
I’m 200 and just got the 97a. Will report back
Tgm has both duros in stock. Might grab 94a too
how are you liking the 97a? In 6.1?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 13, 2020, 10:22:26 AM

I had a geeky stoner pipedream that involved Ace mag baseplates, Theeve Ti kingpin, possibly even Tensor ATG mag hangers.
Aluminum nuts might work but idk if I've seen them with nyloc.

Better off just riding mag tensors all around then! The TI pin in the mag lites would be crazy, they'd weight next to nothing, hell I don't even know how they made the tensor hollow kingpin lighter than the competition, but it clearly is.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on March 18, 2020, 02:44:19 PM
That new venture x thrasher collab shirt is something I can definitely get behind. Shit is fucking fire.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 18, 2020, 03:05:17 PM
I test epoxy one side of the axles. By the pin and outer hanger.

Fuck it what's going to happen I break the truck?

I have to replace my broken bones before the truck falls off.

I have endless bones to toy with.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on March 21, 2020, 11:58:35 AM
Just tried my Venture 5.8s with conical bushings it is perfection. Definitely worth a try for you guys coming from indys
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: AngryBlackMan on March 21, 2020, 12:33:11 PM
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Tgm has both duros in stock. Might grab 94a too
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how are you liking the 97a? In 6.1?

Iím 240 and I run the supercush 97a in my 5.6ís and I love them. I run them in Indys too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tangar on March 21, 2020, 05:58:25 PM
I have 2 sets of 6.1s on identical setups, one with bones hards (cause the stocks blew out). One with stocks still. They both turn super well for me and my small bag of tricks, theyíve worked great for slappies, limited flat ground bag and even more limited ledge bag. As long as your putting the time in, most shit works. I tried 5.8 v-lights with bones and they just didnít turn as well as the 6.1s for me, and I personally like more truck for my shitty crooked grinds. Yíall need to stop listening to Xenís crazy ass. I hesitated on aces for so long because it seemed that everyone needed a magical recipe for them to work. Iíd hate for Ventures to suffer the same fate. I only ever rode aces stock and they were great, just got too heavy because I preferred the 55s. Ventures with bones are the bees knees and I have some mediums on standby incase my stocks blow out. #THEAWAKENING #XENSUCKS
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on March 21, 2020, 07:00:29 PM
Gonna turn to this thread and ask if Venture bushings weirdly get easier to turn out of nowhere (be it weather, dryness, etc.) instead of admitting that in the last 2 or 3 months that I've been off board I've gained weight.

But they randomly got looser for me. Pushed around yesterday and I had them pretty loos but they turned really quickly. I do kinda understand what people mean when they refer to turns as deep. Going from Indy/Aces you can feel the difference. I will say that maybe it's because I have 5.8s and 6.1s would turn nicer because I feel that wider trucks have a nicer turn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drewsmahgoos on March 22, 2020, 07:33:32 AM
Gonna turn to this thread and ask if Venture bushings weirdly get easier to turn out of nowhere (be it weather, dryness, etc.) instead of admitting that in the last 2 or 3 months that I've been off board I've gained weight.

But they randomly got looser for me. Pushed around yesterday and I had them pretty loos but they turned really quickly. I do kinda understand what people mean when they refer to turns as deep. Going from Indy/Aces you can feel the difference. I will say that maybe it's because I have 5.8s and 6.1s would turn nicer because I feel that wider trucks have a nicer turn.

When you were skating these before, was it a lot colder out? Doesn't just have to be your fat ass. Could be that the cold weather made your bushings harder and now that it's getting warmer, it's easier to turn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 22, 2020, 08:08:55 AM
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Gonna turn to this thread and ask if Venture bushings weirdly get easier to turn out of nowhere (be it weather, dryness, etc.) instead of admitting that in the last 2 or 3 months that I've been off board I've gained weight.

But they randomly got looser for me. Pushed around yesterday and I had them pretty loos but they turned really quickly. I do kinda understand what people mean when they refer to turns as deep. Going from Indy/Aces you can feel the difference. I will say that maybe it's because I have 5.8s and 6.1s would turn nicer because I feel that wider trucks have a nicer turn.
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When you were skating these before, was it a lot colder out? Doesn't just have to be your fat ass. Could be that the cold weather made your bushings harder and now that it's getting warmer, it's easier to turn.

obv

also check your bolts.

The hard to reach ones underneath the axles loosen and its more noticeable with this truck.

I usually bomb rattlely bolts but I get much more side to side without ovaled holes on this truck compared to like an old ace with amoeba shaped holes and finger tightenable bolts.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on March 25, 2020, 03:43:28 PM
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Gonna turn to this thread and ask if Venture bushings weirdly get easier to turn out of nowhere (be it weather, dryness, etc.) instead of admitting that in the last 2 or 3 months that I've been off board I've gained weight.

But they randomly got looser for me. Pushed around yesterday and I had them pretty loos but they turned really quickly. I do kinda understand what people mean when they refer to turns as deep. Going from Indy/Aces you can feel the difference. I will say that maybe it's because I have 5.8s and 6.1s would turn nicer because I feel that wider trucks have a nicer turn.
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When you were skating these before, was it a lot colder out? Doesn't just have to be your fat ass. Could be that the cold weather made your bushings harder and now that it's getting warmer, it's easier to turn.
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obv

also check your bolts.

The hard to reach ones underneath the axles loosen and its more noticeable with this truck.

I usually bomb rattlely bolts but I get much more side to side without ovaled holes on this truck compared to like an old ace with amoeba shaped holes and finger tightenable bolts.

Iím in SoCal, it has gotten a little warmer so it might be that partially. The bolts are still tight and I threw in a shirt and you can see my stomach so itís me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 25, 2020, 05:09:19 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: AngryBlackMan on March 25, 2020, 05:19:07 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)

Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once theyíre mounted.  Itís the axle relative to the mounting holes. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 25, 2020, 05:43:50 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
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Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once theyíre mounted.  Itís the axle relative to the mounting holes.

That still doesn't change the fact that Thunder axles stick further out than Ventures. That makes them the truck that extends the wheelbase the most, not Venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Charlie Hustle on March 25, 2020, 05:51:04 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
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Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once theyíre mounted.  Itís the axle relative to the mounting holes.
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That still doesn't change the fact that Thunder axles stick further out than Ventures. That makes them the truck that extends the wheelbase the most, not Venture.
2 things...

What?

And if you work at that shop, stop taking the wheels out the packaging.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 25, 2020, 05:56:29 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
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Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once theyíre mounted.  Itís the axle relative to the mounting holes.
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That still doesn't change the fact that Thunder axles stick further out than Ventures. That makes them the truck that extends the wheelbase the most, not Venture.
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2 things...

What?

And if you work at that shop, stop taking the wheels out the packaging.

I posted pics showing what I'm talking about, I genuinely want to know why it's said Venture extends the wheelbase the most besides "because I said so." To my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most.

Hell, Ben Degros even measured this comparing Thunder Hi vs Venture Los, proving this. (8:06)

https://youtu.be/B0Tyk4rj3hs

As for the wheels, my shop just does that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 25, 2020, 06:15:23 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
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Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once theyíre mounted.  Itís the axle relative to the mounting holes.
[close]

That still doesn't change the fact that Thunder axles stick further out than Ventures. That makes them the truck that extends the wheelbase the most, not Venture.
[close]
2 things...

What?

And if you work at that shop, stop taking the wheels out the packaging.
[close]

I posted pics showing what I'm talking about, I genuinely want to know why it's said Venture extends the wheelbase the most besides "because I said so." To my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most.

Hell, Ben Degros even measured this comparing Thunder Hi vs Venture Los, proving this. (8:06)

https://youtu.be/B0Tyk4rj3hs

As for the wheels, my shop just does that.

well the 2 ventures are different models here.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BL0B on March 25, 2020, 06:23:31 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
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Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once theyíre mounted.  Itís the axle relative to the mounting holes.
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That still doesn't change the fact that Thunder axles stick further out than Ventures. That makes them the truck that extends the wheelbase the most, not Venture.
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2 things...

What?

And if you work at that shop, stop taking the wheels out the packaging.


i like this guy!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on March 25, 2020, 06:25:43 PM
Get all this thunder BS out of my thread  8) I think itís generally understood a forged venture extends wheelbase further than any thunder once itís mounted to the deck. Cast venture could be a different story, trashed my thunders long ago sorry.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 25, 2020, 06:39:20 PM
Still trying to find the perfect combo for my ventures, but right now I love almost everything about them. Iíve been more comfortable than Iíve been in a long time and have been getting some tricks I havenít in a while. My only complaint is I havenít quite figured out how to max out my pop on them, I feel like if I have a ledge or something I can still get on it but my flat ground ollies feel like they have a lower ceiling. Other than that Iím feeling great on them
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: yourbreakfsat on March 25, 2020, 06:45:22 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
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Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once theyíre mounted.  Itís the axle relative to the mounting holes.
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That still doesn't change the fact that Thunder axles stick further out than Ventures. That makes them the truck that extends the wheelbase the most, not Venture.
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2 things...

What?

And if you work at that shop, stop taking the wheels out the packaging.
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I posted pics showing what I'm talking about, I genuinely want to know why it's said Venture extends the wheelbase the most besides "because I said so." To my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most.

Hell, Ben Degros even measured this comparing Thunder Hi vs Venture Los, proving this. (8:06)

https://youtu.be/B0Tyk4rj3hs

As for the wheels, my shop just does that.
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well the 2 ventures are different models here.

Get all this thunder BS out of my thread  8) I think itís generally understood a forged venture extends wheelbase further than any thunder once itís mounted to the deck. Cast venture could be a different story, trashed my thunders long ago sorry.

This is the type of answers I was looking for. I also dug up one of Ben's older videos where he measures truck wheelbases mounted on decks and that's the right answer: it really depends on which version of truck you get, you can't claim trucks bands extended/shorten a wheelbase without specifying a certain model.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CJBjwGj8EU

(Measurements in description)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 25, 2020, 06:56:27 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
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Dude.  You measure the wheelbase once theyíre mounted.  Itís the axle relative to the mounting holes.
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That still doesn't change the fact that Thunder axles stick further out than Ventures. That makes them the truck that extends the wheelbase the most, not Venture.
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2 things...

What?

And if you work at that shop, stop taking the wheels out the packaging.
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i like this guy!

Here are the WB adjustment measurements I've gathered from scouring this forum, sticking to 147 / 148 and 5.2 / 5.6 before we get lost in the weeds:

Independent Cast Plates - Standard - 3"
Thunder Cast Plates - Team Standard, Team Hollow, Titanium - 3.15 - 3.18"
Venture Cast Plates - Standard stuff not the V-Light / Hollow / Titanium - 3.25"

Independent Forged Plates - Hollow - 3.125"
Tensor Maglight ATG - 3.125"
Thunder Forged Plates - Lights, Hollow Lights - 3.25" - 3.28"
Venture Forged Plates - V-Lights, V-Hollow. Titanium - 3.4" - 3.5"

Key difference would be type of baseplate used - good rule of thumb is forged (thinner, shinier) will extend WB and cast (thicker, rougher looking) will extend WB less than forged. Thunder Team trucks stick out since they are hollow axle & kingpin with a forged baseplate, so they don't extend WB as much as the Light / Hollow Lights counterparts.

Won't get into Ace or Theeve, don't have any experience with those.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on March 25, 2020, 06:57:22 PM
Thank you rock for blessing us
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 25, 2020, 07:08:39 PM
Thank you rock for blessing us

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0
These people did a lot of the heavy lifting.

palelight's posts on forged vs cast was also really useful:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3065039#msg3065039
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3186320#msg3186320

Now, let's get back to the gear madness.

Still trying to find the perfect combo for my ventures, but right now I love almost everything about them. Iíve been more comfortable than Iíve been in a long time and have been getting some tricks I havenít in a while. My only complaint is I havenít quite figured out how to max out my pop on them, I feel like if I have a ledge or something I can still get on it but my flat ground ollies feel like they have a lower ceiling. Other than that Iím feeling great on them

Love them on a peculiar setup I had 8 x 32 x 14. Was riding food with Thunder 147 Lights, but amazing with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo. Revived the 4 week old deck and despite the razor tail I'm still contemplating riding it today because it felt amazing.

The standard Venture with cast plates will be pretty good for most boards with 14.25-14.38 WB, My preference for cast Ventures (V-Lights, V-Hollow. Titanium) would be short WB decks, those in the 14-14.125 range. Of course you can mix and match hollow hangers with cast plates too.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 25, 2020, 07:50:31 PM
Still trying to find the perfect combo for my ventures, but right now I love almost everything about them. Iíve been more comfortable than Iíve been in a long time and have been getting some tricks I havenít in a while. My only complaint is I havenít quite figured out how to max out my pop on them, I feel like if I have a ledge or something I can still get on it but my flat ground ollies feel like they have a lower ceiling. Other than that Iím feeling great on them

I felt the same for like first day or two or whatever. I just went to my favorite little bump in the hot top in Salem.

Smoked a fat cone and hit the bump till the felt right.

I worked out that I like being more in towards bolt than on the tip of the tail like I'm attacking a ledge.

That way my board is more in front of me so I could see it suck up into the air and I know I'm not going to break the tail off practicing Ollies.

That sucks when that happens.

I was riding Indy and ace since like 2016. Thunder since the end of the 80s.

Now it all feels exactly the same. I can skate any loose truck np.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drewsmahgoos on March 26, 2020, 07:22:42 AM
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Thank you rock for blessing us
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0
These people did a lot of the heavy lifting.

palelight's posts on forged vs cast was also really useful:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3065039#msg3065039
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3186320#msg3186320

Now, let's get back to the gear madness.

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Still trying to find the perfect combo for my ventures, but right now I love almost everything about them. Iíve been more comfortable than Iíve been in a long time and have been getting some tricks I havenít in a while. My only complaint is I havenít quite figured out how to max out my pop on them, I feel like if I have a ledge or something I can still get on it but my flat ground ollies feel like they have a lower ceiling. Other than that Iím feeling great on them
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Love them on a peculiar setup I had 8 x 32 x 14. Was riding food with Thunder 147 Lights, but amazing with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo. Revived the 4 week old deck and despite the razor tail I'm still contemplating riding it today because it felt amazing.

The standard Venture with cast plates will be pretty good for most boards with 14.25-14.38 WB, My preference for cast Ventures (V-Lights, V-Hollow. Titanium) would be short WB decks, those in the 14-14.125 range. Of course you can mix and match hollow hangers with cast plates too.

So even the 5.2 lows will have a big difference if it's a regular truck compared to a hollow or light? Hmmm,  I'm skating regular 5.2 lows and they're amazing. Best truck I've had in a while. I can still turn and the trucks aren't too squirrely which is a thing I've noticed with thunders. I'm really tall so I don't even know if I want to shrink my wheelbase with a hollow or light but maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 26, 2020, 07:31:56 AM
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Thank you rock for blessing us
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108580.0
These people did a lot of the heavy lifting.

palelight's posts on forged vs cast was also really useful:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3065039#msg3065039
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=88869.msg3186320#msg3186320

Now, let's get back to the gear madness.

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Still trying to find the perfect combo for my ventures, but right now I love almost everything about them. Iíve been more comfortable than Iíve been in a long time and have been getting some tricks I havenít in a while. My only complaint is I havenít quite figured out how to max out my pop on them, I feel like if I have a ledge or something I can still get on it but my flat ground ollies feel like they have a lower ceiling. Other than that Iím feeling great on them
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Love them on a peculiar setup I had 8 x 32 x 14. Was riding food with Thunder 147 Lights, but amazing with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo. Revived the 4 week old deck and despite the razor tail I'm still contemplating riding it today because it felt amazing.

The standard Venture with cast plates will be pretty good for most boards with 14.25-14.38 WB, My preference for cast Ventures (V-Lights, V-Hollow. Titanium) would be short WB decks, those in the 14-14.125 range. Of course you can mix and match hollow hangers with cast plates too.
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So even the 5.2 lows will have a big difference if it's a regular truck compared to a hollow or light? Hmmm,  I'm skating regular 5.2 lows and they're amazing. Best truck I've had in a while. I can still turn and the trucks aren't too squirrely which is a thing I've noticed with thunders. I'm really tall so I don't even know if I want to shrink my wheelbase with a hollow or light but maybe it wouldn't be a bad thing...

Again it comes down to:
1) which baseplate your using
2) WB on your deck

I prefer lighter trucks, they feel more nimble so I will try to get the hollow axle and kingpin version. Used to avoid low trucks but I'm really liking them now, especially since I skate a lot of ledges so getting a good pinch is important to me.

If you're worried about WB and want to try lighter trucks, you can considering mixing the hangers and WB. Cast baseplate plus hanger with hollow axles. Some weight savings while maintaining your WB.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on March 26, 2020, 10:47:49 AM
Itís funny; I was on Indyís for close to fifteen years but every set of Indyís Iíve ever had (OK maybe not every set but definitely every set within the last five or six years) I always had to tinker with them; CONSTANTLY; whether itís them always loosening up on their own and having to re-adjust them once a week JUST AS I got them to exactly how I like them, or the bushings or pivot cups giving me issues, I would always find myself tinkering around with them to get them to feel good; and it got so annoying but I just got so used to it that it became normal. With the ventures im like two months in and I just had to tinker around with them for the first two sessions, got them to how I liked them, and after that theyíve been fine; no issues whatsoever. Havenít had to tinker with them or worry about them since.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on March 26, 2020, 11:17:47 AM
i would be down to try ventures again, just not the cast versions. i like a light truck but the forged versions push the axle to axle wb way further than what i would like. they seem like they would be nice on a 14-14.125 deck but those are rare in the width i like where 14.25-14.5 is standard.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on March 26, 2020, 11:21:43 AM
Itís okay I already know Iím crazy but I just wanted to point out that I really have been preparing for this moment my whole life and didnít know it. Texas has been real lenient on this corona shit, Iíve been shredding for 4 hours a day for the past week with my job on lockdown. Parks & streets you name it, not one cop or anyone has said shit to me and my homie in the DFW area of Texas. I have 13 (9 unskated) decks, 6 pairs of ventures, 4 sets of F4 in the wrap, bolts and bearings for days. Not even counting the Swiss and F4 I have on my two current setups! Most everything was purchased last year hopping back on the wood I caught the skate bug again and I was instantly hooked. if I catch this Corona shit and die I went out with a bang. I supported my favorite skaters buying their pro model shit and I shredded harder than I did in my prime and had fun doing it.

Anyways, once my tax return hits next week Iím getting my homies VX and itís on. I got 3 years to make my part before I hit 30 and hit serious depression assuming I make it out of this hell we are in now. I owe it all to Bobby Worrest Venture Part on thrasher. I was out of the skate scene for 8 years didnít even think about skating doing hella drugs, playing college baseball, chasing girls. Saw dudes part and the hype behind it and I was immediately hooked. Iím a skate rat until I die. Half cabs and a set ventures in my casket thatís all I ask for.

Btw Iím not buying ANY skate shit until 2021 lol! letís just go ahead and delete this fucking year seriously. Everything went to shit when KOBE died straight up. Everyone be safe out there keep shreddin and buy a set of Venture Trucks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: handsclapanin on March 26, 2020, 01:38:58 PM
ditched the top washer and it made a world of difference. other than that, all stock.
(https://i.imgur.com/tmapCwil.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 26, 2020, 07:03:48 PM
i would be down to try ventures again, just not the cast versions. i like a light truck but the forged versions push the axle to axle wb way further than what i would like. they seem like they would be nice on a 14-14.125 deck but those are rare in the width i like where 14.25-14.5 is standard.

I feel you but if I may - frankentruck

Get a nice pair of V-Hoilow or Titanium with forged plate.
Get a 2nd hand pair of standard cast plates.

Light truck with less WB shifting, only problem is you will need to own 2 pairs of trucks. Hence I recommend finding a cheap 2nd hand pair of standard Ventures with cast plates.

ditched the top washer and it made a world of difference. other than that, all stock.
(https://i.imgur.com/tmapCwil.jpg?1)


Better turn? Pinch?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: legion on March 26, 2020, 08:57:34 PM
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Do they give you a shorter wheelbase?

No, they push the WB out the furthest
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What is the justification for this claim? From my understanding, Thunder extends the wheelbase the most, while Venture is very close to Indy.

Yes, if you were to line up the baseplates from the inside of the truck, it would appear that Ventures extend the wheelbase more than Indy.

(https://i.imgur.com/3uiAZqN.jpg)

However, line them up correct from the outside and they're very close to each other. Obviously they'll ride different because Indy is a taller truck.

(https://i.imgur.com/vbuxaTS.jpg)

Here's Thunder vs Indy just to show the big difference.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZWROkmT.jpg)
Line them up by the bolt holes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: handsclapanin on March 27, 2020, 08:57:45 AM


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ditched the top washer and it made a world of difference. other than that, all stock.
(https://i.imgur.com/tmapCwil.jpg?1)

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Better turn? Pinch?

better turn. I like them loose. with the washer on, I would have them loose, get tons of wheelbite but the turn still wasn't what I wanted. washer off, the turn is there. and I was able to tighten them a bit, so I'm getting less wheelbite. it actually surprised me what a difference there was. I've noticed a good number of young rippers rocking no top washer. but I had my doubts and didn't want to needlessly thrash up my bushing. now I'm a convert. give it a try. if you don't like it, you can always put it back on.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Macho Taildrop on March 27, 2020, 09:22:19 AM
People skating venture lows: how do you find that they impact basic crushing/dork shit like slappies and no complies? I am getting the annual itch to break them out but if it is going to negatively impact those basic pleasures I'm not going to do it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drewsmahgoos on March 27, 2020, 10:13:50 AM
People skating venture lows: how do you find that they impact basic crushing/dork shit like slappies and no complies? I am getting the annual itch to break them out but if it is going to negatively impact those basic pleasures I'm not going to do it.

I don't have a good curb for slappies where I've been skating but no complies are not an issue at all. They have improved my flat ground for sure. Skating an 8in ty beall scum co with 5.2 venture lows. I've also thrown them on a  7.75 deck(too skinny), and an 8.125 which was awesome as well. I don't think they've prohibited my skating at all. If anything, I'm skating better on venture lows than any other set of trucks I've tried.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tangar on March 27, 2020, 07:26:33 PM
Itís okay I already know Iím crazy but I just wanted to point out that I really have been preparing for this moment my whole life and didnít know it. Texas has been real lenient on this corona shit, Iíve been shredding for 4 hours a day for the past week with my job on lockdown. Parks & streets you name it, not one cop or anyone has said shit to me and my homie in the DFW area of Texas. I have 13 (9 unskated) decks, 6 pairs of ventures, 4 sets of F4 in the wrap, bolts and bearings for days. Not even counting the Swiss and F4 I have on my two current setups! Most everything was purchased last year hopping back on the wood I caught the skate bug again and I was instantly hooked. if I catch this Corona shit and die I went out with a bang. I supported my favorite skaters buying their pro model shit and I shredded harder than I did in my prime and had fun doing it.

Anyways, once my tax return hits next week Iím getting my homies VX and itís on. I got 3 years to make my part before I hit 30 and hit serious depression assuming I make it out of this hell we are in now. I owe it all to Bobby Worrest Venture Part on thrasher. I was out of the skate scene for 8 years didnít even think about skating doing hella drugs, playing college baseball, chasing girls. Saw dudes part and the hype behind it and I was immediately hooked. Iím a skate rat until I die. Half cabs and a set ventures in my casket thatís all I ask for.

Btw Iím not buying ANY skate shit until 2021 lol! letís just go ahead and delete this fucking year seriously. Everything went to shit when KOBE died straight up. Everyone be safe out there keep shreddin and buy a set of Venture Trucks.
#POTY
6.1 gang dudes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 28, 2020, 01:39:12 PM
What size do venture lows max out at? I don't think it exists, but just checking that theres no 5.6 venture low?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 28, 2020, 02:58:24 PM
What size do venture lows max out at? I don't think it exists, but just checking that theres no 5.6 venture low?

I was told a low 5.6 is was available not long ago by someone very reliable but didn't see it.

Maybe its about to drop. Wouldn't that be sick
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on March 28, 2020, 05:52:34 PM
https://www.paradeworld.com/uk/product/venture-polished-low-trucks-56-825-pair-12-29482445504581/

Hmmm very interesting. Wonder if these will come back or itís a hoax. Never saw a 5.6 low in 2019 catalogs
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 28, 2020, 06:29:02 PM
Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 28, 2020, 07:06:24 PM
Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.

Would love me some Venture 5.6 Lows. The regular 5.6 is pretty hard to come by already.

Skate a pair of Lows a months ago, wheel bite aside I love the pinch and stability.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tangar on March 28, 2020, 07:20:50 PM
I put forged baseplates on my 6.1s to try them a little lower. It was too much wheel bite even with 50-52s. Using 6.1s with cast plates and 50mm has been fine. The 5.8s with forged plates seem to work fine, I never got them loose enough to have too much wheelbite. I also used them with 52mm wheels.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 28, 2020, 08:02:39 PM
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Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.
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Would love me some Venture 5.6 Lows. The regular 5.6 is pretty hard to come by already.

Skate a pair of Lows a months ago, wheel bite aside I love the pinch and stability.

How much worse would you say the wheelbite/turning is compared to highs? I get a little bit of wheelbite with the highs but not bad at all, skating ~52mm ish usually. Even venture highs don't turn amazing but they're comfortable and very sufficient so I wonder how much worse the lows are.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 28, 2020, 09:13:03 PM
I could not skate lows on a regular basis unless I came way down in board size or ran a small wheel.

Low trucks that are wideish 5.6 is definitely the cut off point where wheel bite will be unbearable to I.

Where I live in Marblehead Massachusetts there's no spots close together anymore.
 They didn't hot top the holes last year. They used this filler shit that's like wood chips kinda.

The plows blew it to pieces some places others You're car rolls the shit up like astro turf for a mall picnic around your tire.
I seen photos of wheels looking looking looking like a fuckin swiss roll.

Total shit. Death pastry rough.

There's a few purple stone spots that I skate.

But yeah low trucks (my USA made thunders) I use for this one flat bar spot. The rail is quick set up. Small wheels so they don't bite. They're 149? 8.5s

Anything elsewhere no go anymore

I always felt that low trucks were for quicker set up and little wheels where for short run ups. Also prosperous 90s ground which is gone here.

I'm pretty happy with the 5.6 high and a 55mm hard f4 classics.

It's a good atv

My manny pad hrs are paying off.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: harshrealm on March 28, 2020, 09:59:50 PM
I emailed Deluxe about 5.6 lows recently. Hereís what they told me:

I know we are thinking/talking about the 5.6 low,  and thinking sooner or later it will happen. But we still have a lot of R&D and re-tooling to do before we make it happen. But will pass off you suggestion to the team, and just keep an eye out on our social media for updates.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 28, 2020, 10:00:21 PM
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Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.
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Would love me some Venture 5.6 Lows. The regular 5.6 is pretty hard to come by already.

Skate a pair of Lows a months ago, wheel bite aside I love the pinch and stability.
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How much worse would you say the wheelbite/turning is compared to highs? I get a little bit of wheelbite with the highs but not bad at all, skating ~52mm ish usually. Even venture highs don't turn amazing but they're comfortable and very sufficient so I wonder how much worse the lows are.

Thinking back I don't think I got that much wheel bite riding 8" boards with 5.2 Lows plus 52mm wheels, I was riding stock bushing then which were definitely harder, took longer to break in and didn't turn as smoothly as Thunders. But I rode tight trucks for most of my life so turning isn't as much of a priority; pinch matters far more to me. My rationale is the harder bushings prevent too much turning to avoid wheel bite on Ventures.

I'm actually getting way more wheel bite on my Tensor Maglight ATG with Bones Soft Bushings and 53mm Easy Streets despite Tensors being a higher truck (53mm I think).

I emailed Deluxe about 5.6 lows recently. Hereís what they told me:

I know we are thinking/talking about the 5.6 low,  and thinking sooner or later it will happen. But we still have a lot of R&D and re-tooling to do before we make it happen. But will pass off you suggestion to the team, and just keep an eye out on our social media for updates.

Awww yeah, Venture 5.6 Lo on a 8.125" setup would be my jam!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on March 28, 2020, 10:19:21 PM
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Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.
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Would love me some Venture 5.6 Lows. The regular 5.6 is pretty hard to come by already.

Skate a pair of Lows a months ago, wheel bite aside I love the pinch and stability.
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How much worse would you say the wheelbite/turning is compared to highs? I get a little bit of wheelbite with the highs but not bad at all, skating ~52mm ish usually. Even venture highs don't turn amazing but they're comfortable and very sufficient so I wonder how much worse the lows are.
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Thinking back I don't think I got that much wheel bite riding 8" boards with 5.2 Lows plus 52mm wheels, I was riding stock bushing then which were definitely harder, took longer to break in and didn't turn as smoothly as Thunders. But I rode tight trucks for most of my life so turning isn't as much of a priority; pinch matters far more to me. My rationale is the harder bushings prevent too much turning to avoid wheel bite on Ventures.

I'm actually getting way more wheel bite on my Tensor Maglight ATG with Bones Soft Bushings and 53mm Easy Streets despite Tensors being a higher truck (53mm I think).

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I emailed Deluxe about 5.6 lows recently. Hereís what they told me:

I know we are thinking/talking about the 5.6 low,  and thinking sooner or later it will happen. But we still have a lot of R&D and re-tooling to do before we make it happen. But will pass off you suggestion to the team, and just keep an eye out on our social media for updates.
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Awww yeah, Venture 5.6 Lo on a 8.125" setup would be my jam!
i think atg was advertised as 55mm tall
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on March 28, 2020, 10:22:55 PM
I emailed Deluxe about 5.6 lows recently. Hereís what they told me:

I know we are thinking/talking about the 5.6 low,  and thinking sooner or later it will happen. But we still have a lot of R&D and re-tooling to do before we make it happen. But will pass off you suggestion to the team, and just keep an eye out on our social media for updates.
wonder how many people had to ask for them to start the R&D.

would backflip to try 5.8 lows
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 28, 2020, 10:48:03 PM
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Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.
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Would love me some Venture 5.6 Lows. The regular 5.6 is pretty hard to come by already.

Skate a pair of Lows a months ago, wheel bite aside I love the pinch and stability.
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How much worse would you say the wheelbite/turning is compared to highs? I get a little bit of wheelbite with the highs but not bad at all, skating ~52mm ish usually. Even venture highs don't turn amazing but they're comfortable and very sufficient so I wonder how much worse the lows are.
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Thinking back I don't think I got that much wheel bite riding 8" boards with 5.2 Lows plus 52mm wheels, I was riding stock bushing then which were definitely harder, took longer to break in and didn't turn as smoothly as Thunders. But I rode tight trucks for most of my life so turning isn't as much of a priority; pinch matters far more to me. My rationale is the harder bushings prevent too much turning to avoid wheel bite on Ventures.

I'm actually getting way more wheel bite on my Tensor Maglight ATG with Bones Soft Bushings and 53mm Easy Streets despite Tensors being a higher truck (53mm I think).

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I emailed Deluxe about 5.6 lows recently. Hereís what they told me:

I know we are thinking/talking about the 5.6 low,  and thinking sooner or later it will happen. But we still have a lot of R&D and re-tooling to do before we make it happen. But will pass off you suggestion to the team, and just keep an eye out on our social media for updates.
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Awww yeah, Venture 5.6 Lo on a 8.125" setup would be my jam!
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i think atg was advertised as 55mm tall

Damn no wonder I'm popping weird all over the place, I knew it was not my shitty skateboarding!
Lo all day - amazing how the few mm height difference completely changes how the board feels.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on March 29, 2020, 09:07:10 AM
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Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.
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Would love me some Venture 5.6 Lows. The regular 5.6 is pretty hard to come by already.

Skate a pair of Lows a months ago, wheel bite aside I love the pinch and stability.
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How much worse would you say the wheelbite/turning is compared to highs? I get a little bit of wheelbite with the highs but not bad at all, skating ~52mm ish usually. Even venture highs don't turn amazing but they're comfortable and very sufficient so I wonder how much worse the lows are.
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Thinking back I don't think I got that much wheel bite riding 8" boards with 5.2 Lows plus 52mm wheels, I was riding stock bushing then which were definitely harder, took longer to break in and didn't turn as smoothly as Thunders. But I rode tight trucks for most of my life so turning isn't as much of a priority; pinch matters far more to me. My rationale is the harder bushings prevent too much turning to avoid wheel bite on Ventures.

I'm actually getting way more wheel bite on my Tensor Maglight ATG with Bones Soft Bushings and 53mm Easy Streets despite Tensors being a higher truck (53mm I think).

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I emailed Deluxe about 5.6 lows recently. Hereís what they told me:

I know we are thinking/talking about the 5.6 low,  and thinking sooner or later it will happen. But we still have a lot of R&D and re-tooling to do before we make it happen. But will pass off you suggestion to the team, and just keep an eye out on our social media for updates.
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Awww yeah, Venture 5.6 Lo on a 8.125" setup would be my jam!

I would 100 percent rock a 5.6 lo on my 8.1
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 29, 2020, 09:43:24 AM
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Interesting. Would even be down for a 5.8 low. Currently skating Venture high 5.8s and they're great. Curious about trying lows, would probably be good for the lower centre of gravity and potentially better pinch, but definitely can't go smaller than 5.6.

Haven't skated lows in years though so not sure how wheelbite, kingpin clearance, turning and pop will be.
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Would love me some Venture 5.6 Lows. The regular 5.6 is pretty hard to come by already.

Skate a pair of Lows a months ago, wheel bite aside I love the pinch and stability.
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How much worse would you say the wheelbite/turning is compared to highs? I get a little bit of wheelbite with the highs but not bad at all, skating ~52mm ish usually. Even venture highs don't turn amazing but they're comfortable and very sufficient so I wonder how much worse the lows are.
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Thinking back I don't think I got that much wheel bite riding 8" boards with 5.2 Lows plus 52mm wheels, I was riding stock bushing then which were definitely harder, took longer to break in and didn't turn as smoothly as Thunders. But I rode tight trucks for most of my life so turning isn't as much of a priority; pinch matters far more to me. My rationale is the harder bushings prevent too much turning to avoid wheel bite on Ventures.

I'm actually getting way more wheel bite on my Tensor Maglight ATG with Bones Soft Bushings and 53mm Easy Streets despite Tensors being a higher truck (53mm I think).

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I emailed Deluxe about 5.6 lows recently. Hereís what they told me:

I know we are thinking/talking about the 5.6 low,  and thinking sooner or later it will happen. But we still have a lot of R&D and re-tooling to do before we make it happen. But will pass off you suggestion to the team, and just keep an eye out on our social media for updates.
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Awww yeah, Venture 5.6 Lo on a 8.125" setup would be my jam!
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I would 100 percent rock a 5.6 lo on my 8.1

Lack of 5.6 is the only thing stopping me from swapping out my Tensors for Ventures. Got 3 boards lined up for that Venture holiday.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Festivus on March 30, 2020, 04:05:28 PM
Looks like they might be bringing back 6 hole baseplates

(https://i.ibb.co/kMbqXWc/Screenshot-20200330-154858.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on March 30, 2020, 04:29:22 PM
Looks like they might be bringing back 6 hole baseplates

(https://i.ibb.co/kMbqXWc/Screenshot-20200330-154858.jpg)

that's re drilled I have the a 6 hole plate still. Its not like that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on March 31, 2020, 01:14:47 PM
just want to chime in and say, i've seen many times before people talk about swapping their top washers for the flat bones ones.  i was always skeptical that it would make much of a difference.... i was actually totally fucking wrong lol.  imo it makes the turn feel much different(better)  i've had truck madness for a minute and this def cured it.  posted my setup in that thread if anyones interested
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on March 31, 2020, 01:22:39 PM
just want to chime in and say, i've seen many times before people talk about swapping their top washers for the flat bones ones.  i was always skeptical that it would make much of a difference.... i was actually totally fucking wrong lol.  imo it makes the turn feel much different(better)  i've had truck madness for a minute and this def cured it.  posted my setup in that thread if anyones interested

Yeah it definitely makes a difference. Though I don't know if its just me, but since the top bushing is much more exposed, I feel like its more susceptible to physical damage from smith grinds etc.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on March 31, 2020, 02:24:30 PM
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just want to chime in and say, i've seen many times before people talk about swapping their top washers for the flat bones ones.  i was always skeptical that it would make much of a difference.... i was actually totally fucking wrong lol.  imo it makes the turn feel much different(better)  i've had truck madness for a minute and this def cured it.  posted my setup in that thread if anyones interested
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Yeah it definitely makes a difference. Though I don't know if its just me, but since the top bushing is much more exposed, I feel like its more susceptible to physical damage from smith grinds etc.

agreed, i had that concern too but i cant smith yet so i'll worry about it then haha
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on March 31, 2020, 04:14:49 PM
just want to chime in and say, i've seen many times before people talk about swapping their top washers for the flat bones ones.  i was always skeptical that it would make much of a difference.... i was actually totally fucking wrong lol.  imo it makes the turn feel much different(better)  i've had truck madness for a minute and this def cured it.  posted my setup in that thread if anyones interested

It's partially to blame for the Indy Stage X shit turning as well. The washer binds up against the hanger after a certain point and the flat washer keeps this from happening.  If you ride tight it probably doesn't make that much of a difference.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 31, 2020, 06:58:04 PM
Can you buy bones washers by themselves? Using with stock bushings better off?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on March 31, 2020, 07:27:50 PM
Can you buy bones washers by themselves? Using with stock bushings better off?

Dude asking the real questions here!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: legion on March 31, 2020, 07:53:56 PM
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Can you buy bones washers by themselves? Using with stock bushings better off?
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Dude asking the real questions here!
I think I geeked on it in another thread. They look like shim washers to me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on March 31, 2020, 07:57:27 PM
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Can you buy bones washers by themselves? Using with stock bushings better off?
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Dude asking the real questions here!
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I think I geeked on it in another thread. They look like shim washers to me.
which? Yeah they do. Iím just a stock bushing + washer ride em and break em in type, but willing to try during these times
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: legion on March 31, 2020, 08:36:13 PM
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Can you buy bones washers by themselves? Using with stock bushings better off?
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Dude asking the real questions here!
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I think I geeked on it in another thread. They look like shim washers to me.
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which? Yeah they do. Iím just a stock bushing + washer ride em and break em in type, but willing to try during these times
https://www.mcmaster.com/92217a520 pretty thin

https://www.mcmaster.com/93320a300 1/8" thick

https://www.mcmaster.com/shim-rings Search by ID, speedrings in here too
https://www.mcmaster.com/92668a195 Not cheap

https://www.mcmaster.com/shoulder-screw-shims Speedrings here

Before all this corona mess I'd planned on checking my local Ace and then an industrial hardware store.
I should also get some Bones bushings for reference..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on April 01, 2020, 03:59:44 AM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indyís and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but Iím wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but donít know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause Iím kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is whatís kinda getting me shook.
I have ordered 5.6 venture v light for my 8 flip board, and then i will swith to my primitive 8.125 when flip board is wrecked. Did you do tricks and shit with the 8.25 board and 149 indys? Because i have seen alot of people who ride wider trucks but just crusing. So im a bit worried cuz i want to do tech and also want stability. But i usally dont like 8 trucks. But im starting to think i made a mistake, that thunder 8 trucks are the best 8 truck out there. Wahtever will skate these for a good minute and after that consider if i want 8 ventures with 8 board. Thunders are okay 8 trucks to but i just like wider for the extra grind space and for the feeling of wider trucks always feels better to ride and adds to confidence.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on April 01, 2020, 05:27:59 AM
I would say anything 14-14.38 would be a good wheelbase with venture depending on preference of course. Any higher than that would be crazy long! I have every model of venture except the hollows but Iím sure they are great. Been banging raw ventures and titaniums in my 2 current setups. Iím also on 8-8.25 like you so venture is great trust me :)
Are you skating 5.6 or 5.2 with your 8.0 to 8.25 boards? I got the 5.6 for my 8 board and next board i have is a primitive 14 wb, 8.125. Im really really crious and OCDed about this. Mayby should i have bought 5.2. Im thinking of mayby grind down my axels on the 5.6 just a tiny tiny bit so they fit 8 boards better and 8.125. If there is room for it with the wheels going on with the nuts all the way in. Wouldnt do it myself, i would go to some blacksmith or ask my dad he knows how to do these things right. Or its a bad idťa? Ocourse i wouldnt do it right away would skate with them alot first. Sorry for moaning about this everywere on the forum. Truck nerd and only have OCD when it comes to skateboard.  ;D

Edit: I forget to say that i dont have the trucks yet, ordered from Germany or mayby it was UK. And im a bit afraid they wont come anyway soon cause of corona and shit. But i think they said on their webside skatedeluxe. Dont worry stay at home we still send out products, but mayby they ment only in their country.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on April 01, 2020, 06:02:54 AM
Can you buy bones washers by themselves? Using with stock bushings better off?

the other dude above a few posts kind of answered the solo washer question.  i personally like the feeling of the stock bushings as opposed to fully going with the bones set.  one thing worth noting is that i did have to tighten my trucks after i swapped.  when i was riding the bushings totally stock i was maybe 2 turns from the kingpin being flush, once i put the bones washer on, i tightened them up to actually be flush
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on April 01, 2020, 06:30:24 AM
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the other dude above a few posts kind of answered the solo washer question.  i personally like the feeling of the stock bushings as opposed to fully going with the bones set.  one thing worth noting is that i did have to tighten my trucks after i swapped.  when i was riding the bushings totally stock i was maybe 2 turns from the kingpin being flush, once i put the bones washer on, i tightened them up to actually be flush
yeah thatís how I am now with stock. 200 lbs I donít like em too loose. Thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on April 01, 2020, 06:31:16 AM
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that's re drilled I have the a 6 hole plate still. Its not like that.
Why would Koston redrill his baseplate?? Smaller WB?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 01, 2020, 07:02:29 AM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indyís and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but Iím wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but donít know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause Iím kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is whatís kinda getting me shook.
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I have ordered 5.6 venture v light for my 8 flip board, and then i will swith to my primitive 8.125 when flip board is wrecked. Did you do tricks and shit with the 8.25 board and 149 indys? Because i have seen alot of people who ride wider trucks but just crusing. So im a bit worried cuz i want to do tech and also want stability. But i usally dont like 8 trucks. But im starting to think i made a mistake, that thunder 8 trucks are the best 8 truck out there. Wahtever will skate these for a good minute and after that consider if i want 8 ventures with 8 board. Thunders are okay 8 trucks to but i just like wider for the extra grind space and for the feeling of wider trucks always feels better to ride and adds to confidence.
I had the 5.6 on both and 8 and a 8.1 and itís fine. I preferred it over the 5.2 and I skated them both back to back.
149 is fine for 8.25 and 8.25 is more than fine for 8.1

I did not feel any advantage for tricks on the smaller trucks and I felt less consistent on grinds because I never would lock on straight against the wheel . Maybe tre flips were a tiny bit easier but nothing that would warrant a smaller truck when I much preferred the 5.6
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on April 01, 2020, 07:05:31 AM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indyís and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but Iím wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but donít know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause Iím kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is whatís kinda getting me shook.
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I have ordered 5.6 venture v light for my 8 flip board, and then i will swith to my primitive 8.125 when flip board is wrecked. Did you do tricks and shit with the 8.25 board and 149 indys? Because i have seen alot of people who ride wider trucks but just crusing. So im a bit worried cuz i want to do tech and also want stability. But i usally dont like 8 trucks. But im starting to think i made a mistake, that thunder 8 trucks are the best 8 truck out there. Wahtever will skate these for a good minute and after that consider if i want 8 ventures with 8 board. Thunders are okay 8 trucks to but i just like wider for the extra grind space and for the feeling of wider trucks always feels better to ride and adds to confidence.
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I had the 5.6 on both and 8 and a 8.1 and itís fine. I preferred it over the 5.2 and I skated them both back to back.
149 is fine for 8.25 and 8.25 is more than fine for 8.1

Okay thanks exactly the answer i needed. I wont worry more about it!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Macho Taildrop on April 01, 2020, 07:30:15 AM
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Looks like they might be bringing back 6 hole baseplates

(https://i.ibb.co/kMbqXWc/Screenshot-20200330-154858.jpg)
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that's re drilled I have the a 6 hole plate still. Its not like that.
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Why would Koston redrill his baseplate?? Smaller WB?

Yeah, having a truck where you can change the WB to shorted up the tail or lengthen up the nose or whatever.

That being said, I think him trying a manufactured sample of an adjustable WB truck makes a lot more sense than him re-drilling a standard. He owns Numbers and could easily get multiple boards in the same shape with a different WB, which would make a lot more sense than going through the trouble of drilling 4 new holes in each baseplate. Who knows though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 01, 2020, 07:49:39 AM
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Looks like they might be bringing back 6 hole baseplates

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that's re drilled I have the a 6 hole plate still. Its not like that.
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Why would Koston redrill his baseplate?? Smaller WB?

I'm guessing kingpin position more than wb but could be a combination..

That's the reason venture turn this way is the axle is above the bolts and the kingpin angle is more vertical and centered in the plate.

This pretty much porked the venture. Respect to koston for being a truck nerd. I never liked his sk
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 01, 2020, 07:54:43 AM
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Venture heads :

Is there any noticeable difference in geo between 5.6 and 5.8?

Aside from weight and wheel base is there a general preference of v-lights or regular cast?

I have some 149 Indyís and I sized down to 8.25 decks and 149s feel great on it but Iím wanting set up a tech board  so was thinking 5.6 on 8.25. Plus I wanna try venture but donít know what would be the best choice to get my feet wet with. Out of v light reg and 5.6 or 5.8
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Unless you are all about weight savings I would start with the standard cast. I was running polished 5.6 cast for a while and they did everything I needed and didn't feel that much heavier coming from hollow light thunders.
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I've running a set of 5.6 V-hollows (forged plate, hollow pin and axles) and have some 5.6 V-lites (forged plates hollow pins) on my kids boards, before setting them all up, holding them in hand the weight savings is negligible.

I like light setups so the 5.6 V-Hollows was the obvious choice for me; would have gone ti if they were available...but that's me, I don't think the weight savings for ti is THAT great against a hollow, unless we're talking Indys or anything at 8.5/149 or above....noticeable in hand but once they're setup...meh
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Is the extended wheel base the forge base plates give you any noticeable issues? Cause Iím kinda leaning towards 5.6 v-lights(even though I do kinda like 8.5 trucks on 8.25 deck) but the extra length is whatís kinda getting me shook.
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I have ordered 5.6 venture v light for my 8 flip board, and then i will swith to my primitive 8.125 when flip board is wrecked. Did you do tricks and shit with the 8.25 board and 149 indys? Because i have seen alot of people who ride wider trucks but just crusing. So im a bit worried cuz i want to do tech and also want stability. But i usally dont like 8 trucks. But im starting to think i made a mistake, that thunder 8 trucks are the best 8 truck out there. Wahtever will skate these for a good minute and after that consider if i want 8 ventures with 8 board. Thunders are okay 8 trucks to but i just like wider for the extra grind space and for the feeling of wider trucks always feels better to ride and adds to confidence.
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I had the 5.6 on both and 8 and a 8.1 and itís fine. I preferred it over the 5.2 and I skated them both back to back.
149 is fine for 8.25 and 8.25 is more than fine for 8.1
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Okay thanks exactly the answer i needed. I wont worry more about it!

Can't wait for my 5.6 V-Hollow to come in later this month. 5.8 on a Primitive 8.25 felt stable but the added weight and width made the board too clunky for me. 5.2 on a 8" with a 14" WB was a great combination in terms of having a nimble board but still a touch too small for tricks where I wanted more real estate like BS Smiths. 5.6 is the sweet spot IMO. I think it really comes down to what Forged and Cast baseplates will affect your WB.

I would be the first one to order Venture 5.6 Lo in all variations if and when they get launched, hell I would even pay full price!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 01, 2020, 08:02:44 AM
Must fight the urge to rag on kooks board selection.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 01, 2020, 11:56:21 AM
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I would say anything 14-14.38 would be a good wheelbase with venture depending on preference of course. Any higher than that would be crazy long! I have every model of venture except the hollows but Iím sure they are great. Been banging raw ventures and titaniums in my 2 current setups. Iím also on 8-8.25 like you so venture is great trust me :)
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Are you skating 5.6 or 5.2 with your 8.0 to 8.25 boards? I got the 5.6 for my 8 board and next board i have is a primitive 14 wb, 8.125. Im really really crious and OCDed about this. Mayby should i have bought 5.2. Im thinking of mayby grind down my axels on the 5.6 just a tiny tiny bit so they fit 8 boards better and 8.125. If there is room for it with the wheels going on with the nuts all the way in. Wouldnt do it myself, i would go to some blacksmith or ask my dad he knows how to do these things right. Or its a bad idťa? Ocourse i wouldnt do it right away would skate with them alot first. Sorry for moaning about this everywere on the forum. Truck nerd and only have OCD when it comes to skateboard.  ;D

Edit: I forget to say that i dont have the trucks yet, ordered from Germany or mayby it was UK. And im a bit afraid they wont come anyway soon cause of corona and shit. But i think they said on their webside skatedeluxe. Dont worry stay at home we still send out products, but mayby they ment only in their country.

Yeah it all depends what I wanna skate, if I need a quick tech/ledge/line I go 5.2 with 8.1 and if Iím trying to huck I go 5.6 and 8.25
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 01, 2020, 04:20:42 PM
I suggest that anyone who likes flip ins to try a magic carpet set up.

Back when I had the power to flip in to whatever ledge basic I had on lock my preference was the smallest thunders with an 1/8 riser and a squashed dook? foam riser. I have no idea what the deal was with that after market piece? Free is free

 I forgot the number of the thunder low but they fit an 7.5 flush on the rail (primo) I still got a set

I started using whatever was at the shop that was between 7.75 and 8" at first because no one wanted a big ass very board except the homie Ian

I learned all my flip in basics on that type of set up because i think more grip faster flip.
Smaller truck faster flip.

Magic carpet is something I think tech guys sleep on. You can run a wheel over 44mm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rob on April 01, 2020, 04:40:50 PM
I have a 8.125 primitive 14Ē wheelbase with venture 5.6 v hollows forged baseplate Setup

Rides very good

Trucks turn decently, close to Indy but not as deep and sharp

But like a straighter stable Indy

I think I said it before, venture hi feel like indys trying to turn and be stable like thunders

Goes half and half on each trucks characteristics

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 01, 2020, 08:06:00 PM
Lotta good venture threads on tactics 20%off right now, go cop!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 01, 2020, 09:45:26 PM
Lotta good venture threads on tactics 20%off right now, go cop!

Unfortunately those are the 5.0 and 5.8. Should have gotten a pair of 5.6 a few weeks ago when Ambush and Socal were offering 15% off.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 01, 2020, 10:21:00 PM
Threads
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jamersonbass on April 02, 2020, 04:55:03 PM
I've had 2 sessions on my 6.1's.  Dead stock.

I agree with Rob that they're like a toss up between Indy and Thunder.  I really like the stability, while still being able to turn where I want for the most part.  And to me, they don't wheelbite as much as Thunder.  Granted, I don't skate tranny at all.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 02, 2020, 07:15:29 PM
I've had 2 sessions on my 6.1's.  Dead stock.

I agree with Rob that they're like a toss up between Indy and Thunder.  I really like the stability, while still being able to turn where I want for the most part.  And to me, they don't wheelbite as much as Thunder.  Granted, I don't skate tranny at all.

I see Thunders as being the middle truck, between Indy and Thunder. Get the balance of WB lengthening, turning and pnch, but compromise on slide.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on April 03, 2020, 02:47:56 AM
I wish venture would make an all hollow truck with the standard team baseplates.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 03, 2020, 05:39:37 AM
I wish venture would make an all hollow truck with the standard team baseplates.
Same here. For some reason I though that they did
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 03, 2020, 09:58:51 AM
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Same here. For some reason I though that they did

And make it available in a 5.6
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 03, 2020, 10:07:50 AM
Rocking a titanium hanger (5.6) on a cast plate right now. Pretty dreamy setup
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 03, 2020, 10:34:07 AM
how much heavier/taller is the cast plate than the forged? I know the forged plate is lower and stretches the wb a bit but how noticeable a difference is it in comparison? My forged plates feel p good
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 03, 2020, 10:41:04 AM
Gotta be 1.5 mm like other cast v forged Iím assuming. I donít notice much difference but I like the extra heft of the cast plate and solid kingpin. I have all my forged plates for my 14wb boards. Cast on 14.2 or up!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 03, 2020, 12:00:28 PM
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And make it available in a 5.6
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 03, 2020, 12:11:32 PM
Rocking a titanium hanger (5.6) on a cast plate right now. Pretty dreamy setup

lol.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 03, 2020, 12:27:58 PM
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lol.
Laugh it up pal  :P
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: legion on April 03, 2020, 12:44:48 PM
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lol.
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Laugh it up pal  :P
Hey. I'm gonna go full goon too and do Ticast Indy's. Once I change the bushings they'll be about $100 retail. Doesn't make me feel kooky, not at all. And I never trip on having a board that is worth almost $300.
But really.. I'm gonna run ticast..
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 03, 2020, 01:04:29 PM

Hey. I'm gonna go full goon too and do Ticast Indy's. Once I change the bushings they'll be about $100 retail. Doesn't make me feel kooky, not at all. And I never trip on having a board that is worth almost $300.
But really.. I'm gonna run ticast..
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Nothing wrong with that I use to run indy tits for a couple years never had any problems with all 3 pair. Switched to venture this year. Itís basically all the same shit I just feel better about myself getting away from the indy image in my opinion
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 03, 2020, 03:31:48 PM
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lol.
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Laugh it up pal  :P

I thought it was a joke.
Dreamy awake.... I wish I had a ti 5.6. I had no idea they made that. I'd be stroked for a 5.6 hollow hanger.

My last hollow truck was a g&s like v3? Had less plastic
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: The.Tran.Man on April 07, 2020, 11:57:37 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaEGpgeUO8U

Evan is riding Ventures in the Embarcadero clips
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 07, 2020, 12:46:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaEGpgeUO8U

Evan is riding Ventures in the Embarcadero clips

that would be so sick.

That was a killer video.  Bump to Crook fs n flip. Was Dayem
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on April 07, 2020, 01:58:56 PM
is there a general opinion between the lights/titaniums vs standard ventures?  i have a set of 5.8ti's thats on my regular setup, i was thinking of getting a pair of 6.1s for a cruiser.  thoughts?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 07, 2020, 02:51:32 PM
is there a general opinion between the lights/titaniums vs standard ventures?  i have a set of 5.8ti's thats on my regular setup, i was thinking of getting a pair of 6.1s for a cruiser.  thoughts?
do it you will love both
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 07, 2020, 02:57:26 PM
is there a general opinion between the lights/titaniums vs standard ventures?  i have a set of 5.8ti's thats on my regular setup, i was thinking of getting a pair of 6.1s for a cruiser.  thoughts?

The vlights/titaniums/hollows have forged baseplates which means that they are lower and stretch the wheelbase out a bit more so than standard ventures with cast plates. You may like this more or less depending on your personal preferences. Besides that, the titaniums are significantly lighter than even the v-lights. Just set up some vlights (forged plate, hollow kingpin, solid axle) after retiring my titaniums, haven't skated them properly yet but just carrying the board and popping, the additional heft (which isn't necessarily bad) is definitely noticeable.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jsettle on April 07, 2020, 02:59:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaEGpgeUO8U

Evan is riding Ventures in the Embarcadero clips


that would be pretty cool, but im pretty sure that was a homies board.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on April 08, 2020, 02:25:08 AM
Just had my first two sessions on a new set of 5.2 titanium hi's and really really liking them so far. Got them on a really short board (WB just below 14") and the pop is amazing, the board just sticks to my back foot. Compared to the Indys I had before I don't feel a difference when I'm grinding a crusty curb, but I definitely notice a bit sharper, more sudden turn... Nothing to bad, just noticable. Hoping that will get a bit more mellow and smoother as the stock bushing break in a bit more. What is your experience with that? Never messed with aftermarket bushings in any of my trucks so far...

P.S.: The only thing I really don't like is the golden baseplate.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 08, 2020, 08:31:50 AM
Just had my first two sessions on a new set of 5.2 titanium hi's and really really liking them so far. Got them on a really short board (WB just below 14") and the pop is amazing, the board just sticks to my back foot. Compared to the Indys I had before I don't feel a difference when I'm grinding a crusty curb, but I definitely notice a bit sharper, more sudden turn... Nothing to bad, just noticable. Hoping that will get a bit more mellow and smoother as the stock bushing break in a bit more. What is your experience with that? Never messed with aftermarket bushings in any of my trucks so far...

P.S.: The only thing I really don't like is the golden baseplate.

Mind sharing the setup? I have a 7.75 x 31.3 x 14 traffic board that I've been wanting to setup again with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow after not finding success with Indy 139 Hollow and Thunder Hollow Lights.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on April 08, 2020, 08:41:46 AM
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Just had my first two sessions on a new set of 5.2 titanium hi's and really really liking them so far. Got them on a really short board (WB just below 14") and the pop is amazing, the board just sticks to my back foot. Compared to the Indys I had before I don't feel a difference when I'm grinding a crusty curb, but I definitely notice a bit sharper, more sudden turn... Nothing to bad, just noticable. Hoping that will get a bit more mellow and smoother as the stock bushing break in a bit more. What is your experience with that? Never messed with aftermarket bushings in any of my trucks so far...

P.S.: The only thing I really don't like is the golden baseplate.
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Mind sharing the setup? I have a 7.75 x 31.3 x 14 traffic board that I've been wanting to setup again with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow after not finding success with Indy 139 Hollow and Thunder Hollow Lights.

It's a Becky 8" deck (don't know overall length) with a 13.9 WB. Running 54 F4 tablets (probably down to 53/52 now) since all parks are closed during the lockdown and I have to visit the crustier spots. Not more wheelbite as with my forged hollow Indys Ė they are the same height after all. So far I can totally recommend them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 09, 2020, 03:41:03 PM
Any of you fellas tried your Venture's on a 14.5 wb? If so how was it? Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 09, 2020, 03:53:36 PM
Any of you fellas tried your Venture's on a 14.5 wb? If so how was it? Thanks!

hefty but good yield, was fine for me because I was just coming down from longer wheelbases too. might be a bit much if you're used to stuff much shorter though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 09, 2020, 04:21:31 PM
Any of you fellas tried your Venture's on a 14.5 wb? If so how was it? Thanks!


It took like 12 skate hrs to normalize was like a 1/2" wb change because I was riding Ace on the older board

I had issues with impossible and switch front big spins which is abnormal. That fixed its self.

 I'm back on a shorter WB again and things are really working out. I feel like throwing the bigger WB has strengthened my powers too.

The gains I've experienced at the ledge and with straight flip tricks is worth the large wb change.

The thing id be worried about was the fingers of flat. That's the most important thing about ventures I feel. So if you got a 14.5 WB I hope the board is 32 or better
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 09, 2020, 04:23:51 PM
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hefty but good yield, was fine for me because I was just coming down from longer wheelbases too. might be a bit much if you're used to stuff much shorter though.
Thanks! I always have used 14.25, I wasn't sure if it will make a huge difference or not. Im definitely not looking to have to put more effort into fliptricks, I just wanted to try something different.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 09, 2020, 04:31:43 PM
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It took like 12 skate hrs to normalize was like a 1/2" wb change because I was riding Ace on the older board

I had issues with impossible and switch front big spins which is abnormal. That fixed its self.

 I'm back on a shorter WB again and things are really working out. I feel like throwing the bigger WB has strengthened my powers too.

The gains I've experienced at the ledge and with straight flip tricks is worth the large wb change.

The thing id be worried about was the fingers of flat. That's the most important thing about ventures I feel. So if you got a 14.5 WB I hope the board is 32 or better
Yes sir its 32.2, I am mainly concerned about 360 flips and impossibles becoming more effort.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on April 09, 2020, 05:45:09 PM
They will undoubtedly become way more effort.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Willie on April 10, 2020, 07:21:04 AM
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It took like 12 skate hrs to normalize was like a 1/2" wb change because I was riding Ace on the older board

I had issues with impossible and switch front big spins which is abnormal. That fixed its self.

 I'm back on a shorter WB again and things are really working out. I feel like throwing the bigger WB has strengthened my powers too.

The gains I've experienced at the ledge and with straight flip tricks is worth the large wb change.

The thing id be worried about was the fingers of flat. That's the most important thing about ventures I feel. So if you got a 14.5 WB I hope the board is 32 or better
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Yes sir its 32.2, I am mainly concerned about 360 flips and impossibles becoming more effort.

I ride long WBs on Ventures. Iím tall-ish and until recently skated a lot of transition. Itís an OK setup for that but itís dogshit for tech.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 10, 2020, 11:17:16 AM
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It took like 12 skate hrs to normalize was like a 1/2" wb change because I was riding Ace on the older board

I had issues with impossible and switch front big spins which is abnormal. That fixed its self.

 I'm back on a shorter WB again and things are really working out. I feel like throwing the bigger WB has strengthened my powers too.

The gains I've experienced at the ledge and with straight flip tricks is worth the large wb change.

The thing id be worried about was the fingers of flat. That's the most important thing about ventures I feel. So if you got a 14.5 WB I hope the board is 32 or better
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Yes sir its 32.2, I am mainly concerned about 360 flips and impossibles becoming more effort.
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I ride long WBs on Ventures. Iím tall-ish and until recently skated a lot of transition. Itís an OK setup for that but itís dogshit for tech.
Thanks for the heads up, I will just put my indy 144's on it
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FredGallsBallz on April 10, 2020, 01:37:06 PM
There doesn't appear to be an official Venture replacement bushing set available. What other brands would be close to what comes stock on Ventures?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 10, 2020, 01:40:43 PM
There doesn't appear to be an official Venture replacement bushing set available. What other brands would be close to what comes stock on Ventures?
dlx supercush, ace lows, bones, indy cylinders all work
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FredGallsBallz on April 10, 2020, 02:07:49 PM
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thanks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 10, 2020, 02:37:34 PM
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thanks.

I think the ace lows only work as the top bushing, for the bottom you might need ace normals
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 10, 2020, 03:17:19 PM
There doesn't appear to be an official Venture replacement bushing set available. What other brands would be close to what comes stock on Ventures?
Iíve had two duros of supercush and they broke in within an hour
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on April 10, 2020, 04:21:59 PM
There doesn't appear to be an official Venture replacement bushing set available. What other brands would be close to what comes stock on Ventures?
Iím using the hard Doh Dohs and they work perfect. The bottom bushing is a tad bit taller than the stock venture bottom bushing though, so itís probably gonna throw the geometry a bit off, but itís nothing I could notice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 10, 2020, 04:37:39 PM
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I think the ace lows only work as the top bushing, for the bottom you might need ace normals

Good catch TZ! You still running those 8.25-8.3 quasiís?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 10, 2020, 04:49:10 PM
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I think the ace lows only work as the top bushing, for the bottom you might need ace normals
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Good catch TZ! You still running those 8.25-8.3 quasiís?

I'm skating the 8.25 I got right now. 14.37 wb just under 32 length. Shape is pretty good, took me a few sessions to get used to how flat it was, especially because I was coming from a super steep DOA shape. At first it felt like the board was a month old lol.

Flat shape is feeling pretty good now, I definitely prefer flatter kicks over steep ones especially on Ventures for what I skate. I quite like the shape of the kicks too, not stupid square but still a nice full shape with a well defined zone to flick off of. If anything, perhaps a slightly steeper tail would be nice but not necessary.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be that durable, seems to chip/dent/pressure crack a bit easier than generator boards... only been about 2 weeks and its still great for now, but the early symptoms aren't so promising. I definitely think generator wood is more reliable, whereas PS is a bit more hit or miss.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on April 12, 2020, 04:07:52 AM
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I think the ace lows only work as the top bushing, for the bottom you might need ace normals
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Good catch TZ! You still running those 8.25-8.3 quasiís?
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I'm skating the 8.25 I got right now. 14.37 wb just under 32 length. Shape is pretty good, took me a few sessions to get used to how flat it was, especially because I was coming from a super steep DOA shape. At first it felt like the board was a month old lol.

Flat shape is feeling pretty good now, I definitely prefer flatter kicks over steep ones especially on Ventures for what I skate. I quite like the shape of the kicks too, not stupid square but still a nice full shape with a well defined zone to flick off of. If anything, perhaps a slightly steeper tail would be nice but not necessary.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be that durable, seems to chip/dent/pressure crack a bit easier than generator boards... only been about 2 weeks and its still great for now, but the early symptoms aren't so promising. I definitely think generator wood is more reliable, whereas PS is a bit more hit or miss.

Got my new setup, hopefully will go to the park today. Got Primitive 8.125, WB 14 amd Venture 5.6. Primitve feels good to stand on im hyped, i just wonder if the tail might be very steep. And if fingers of flat, is more positive with Venture if you like small wheelbase or less fingers of flat better? Want snappy pop, im afraid of ghost popping alot, but as fast i get used to the Ventures im sure i will like it more and more. Also thinking about flater boards may be better for Venture, just a thought. Flat boards i have had before have suprisingly made flip tricks cleaner.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on April 12, 2020, 05:02:57 AM
Was just out with the new setup to the store, felt great, a bit more ghost popping especially the first ollies. But felt like after every try i got more adjusted. I might go to the pool today again, clean floor, just to get adjusted. Its a small squared pool straight floor with awsome ground, feels good to ride on and just do manuals feels good. Its empty of water this time of year. The sad thing is sometimes angry wiches come and scream at you. Yesterday i was super nice to everyone who looked or came by, also joked with the old ladies on the bench when i went away to make it more positive and less angry people, they see im just human falling practicing.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: weon on April 15, 2020, 02:30:53 PM
switched my cruiser's 169s for 6.1s and its pretty cray! honestly did not expect these ventures to turn so deep. thank you a-list bobby <3

only problem is im getting much more wheelbite on my mini super juices. gotta be honest and say i hate risers; they are not going on any of my setups. should i move on from stock bushings or just try to tighten them? i might have some orange indy and/or bones hard bushings somewhere in this house... i think
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chris. on April 15, 2020, 03:45:25 PM
If your 6.1 are brand new then they will tighten up after an hour or so if riding. I was shocked by how squishy mine felt at first. Once mine tightened up I swapped the top washer for a flat bones washer like I did on my 5.8 and they are feeling good.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 15, 2020, 03:49:53 PM
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I think the ace lows only work as the top bushing, for the bottom you might need ace normals
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Good catch TZ! You still running those 8.25-8.3 quasiís?
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I'm skating the 8.25 I got right now. 14.37 wb just under 32 length. Shape is pretty good, took me a few sessions to get used to how flat it was, especially because I was coming from a super steep DOA shape. At first it felt like the board was a month old lol.

Flat shape is feeling pretty good now, I definitely prefer flatter kicks over steep ones especially on Ventures for what I skate. I quite like the shape of the kicks too, not stupid square but still a nice full shape with a well defined zone to flick off of. If anything, perhaps a slightly steeper tail would be nice but not necessary.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be that durable, seems to chip/dent/pressure crack a bit easier than generator boards... only been about 2 weeks and its still great for now, but the early symptoms aren't so promising. I definitely think generator wood is more reliable, whereas PS is a bit more hit or miss.
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Got my new setup, hopefully will go to the park today. Got Primitive 8.125, WB 14 amd Venture 5.6. Primitve feels good to stand on im hyped, i just wonder if the tail might be very steep. And if fingers of flat, is more positive with Venture if you like small wheelbase or less fingers of flat better? Want snappy pop, im afraid of ghost popping alot, but as fast i get used to the Ventures im sure i will like it more and more. Also thinking about flater boards may be better for Venture, just a thought. Flat boards i have had before have suprisingly made flip tricks cleaner.

I'm about to setup an 8.125" Primitive on 5.6s (previously riding Tensors on it). I've ridden 8.25/8.3/8.125 primitives of late, I love to hate them. Fucking Dragon ball z graphics on killer shapes :P but whatever. Love the shapes and they pair the best with ventures/thunders, i.e., lower trucks that push out the wheelbase some (tho ribero rides indies on these 14" WB soooo); My manuls on the primitives with ventures worked great for me and I am not a 'manual guy'.

I find the decks are pretty flat, full with medium kicks and short tails (8.25" have long tails oddly). Shapes are full/round, not point, not blunt.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on April 15, 2020, 04:27:44 PM

switched my cruiser's 169s for 6.1s and its pretty cray! honestly did not expect these ventures to turn so deep. thank you a-list bobby <3


only problem is im getting much more wheelbite on my mini super juices. gotta be honest and say i hate risers; they are not going on any of my setups. should i move on from stock bushings or just try to tighten them? i might have some orange indy and/or bones hard bushings somewhere in this house... i think

Did the same on my Dane 1. Change the 169 + risers to 6.1 for a few. Popped good. I ordered 97a supercush to not have to tighten the stock (yellow bottom, thunder top) bushings even more after breaking em in a bit. I waa getting some wheel bite  being 20lbs w 54mm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: CBP on April 15, 2020, 07:42:41 PM
In case anyone else was wondering.

(https://i.imgur.com/TnvSbO8.png)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 15, 2020, 07:48:34 PM
In case anyone else was wondering.

(https://i.imgur.com/TnvSbO8.png)

I thought it stopped in 2016
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Post by: Ok on April 15, 2020, 08:30:47 PM
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In case anyone else was wondering.

(https://i.imgur.com/TnvSbO8.png)
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I thought it stopped in 2016

More reason to support, if true.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: palelight on April 15, 2020, 09:10:15 PM
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In case anyone else was wondering.

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I thought it stopped in 2016

A while ago I think the consensus was they're still made in SF, but with the use of hardware (nuts, kingpins, washers, bushings etc.) sourced from overseas/Mexico they don't stamp "USA" anymore on the baseplate. Which was where Indy caught hell under some federal guideline when they were still stamping their baseplate using imported hardware on the truck.

Probably would help if DLX attached a tag with "Made in USA with foreign and domestic parts" or something.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on April 16, 2020, 07:09:23 AM
thats awesome to see that theyre still made in the US....or at least mostly


additionally, does anyone have a pair of 5.8 v-lights they would like to sell me?  ;D
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 16, 2020, 07:37:29 AM
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In case anyone else was wondering.

(https://i.imgur.com/TnvSbO8.png)
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I thought it stopped in 2016
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More reason to support, if true.

that's bullshit man something fucked off you don't keep sending it money.

Why you stirring up MUD. People need to get on ventures like yesterday.

I want local trucks.  Also we lost that lotties shirt shit. Fucking Nazis are still on it.

I was about to order one yesterday but I took the time to where's waldo the back of a black t.

Shalom
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on April 16, 2020, 10:11:01 AM
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In case anyone else was wondering.

(https://i.imgur.com/TnvSbO8.png)
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I thought it stopped in 2016
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More reason to support, if true.
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that's bullshit man something fucked off you don't keep sending it money.

Why you stirring up MUD. People need to get on ventures like yesterday.

I want local trucks.  Also we lost that lotties shirt shit. Fucking Nazis are still on it.

I was about to order one yesterday but I took the time to where's waldo the back of a black t.

Shalom
orchard didnít have the lotties shop specific tee?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: weon on April 16, 2020, 11:57:04 AM
yup i was gonna order the Labor one but when I saw Two Felons still up there the stoke dissipated real quick...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 16, 2020, 12:00:25 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/t7G2Yf8UJseAGWaFkSvbbfEGMYzkkE5YWx5N0pvSKVzDkUCf7x_eCPIidjc6fgZhnO02AHkJB-bmGkUCJTwB_INL5IE4KRkCqZCeq_niBfZ6yOi2h-e4NISpXTACZNzmuezHtA1SY7k)

As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:


Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on April 16, 2020, 12:59:39 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/t7G2Yf8UJseAGWaFkSvbbfEGMYzkkE5YWx5N0pvSKVzDkUCf7x_eCPIidjc6fgZhnO02AHkJB-bmGkUCJTwB_INL5IE4KRkCqZCeq_niBfZ6yOi2h-e4NISpXTACZNzmuezHtA1SY7k)

As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

Wow!  You win the tech truck award.  I can't help but notice though, 1" hardware and yet you have special Ti nuts?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 16, 2020, 01:08:42 PM
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As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.

Wow, are those kingpins/axle nuts and the machined washers worth it over the normal bones flat top and normal kingpin/axle nuts? Any differences besides the aesthetics? I always end up getting green riptides but the light blue ones look super sick, wonder if they feel different... And as always tempted to try the ace bushing combo, but reluctant to buy two sets of bushings for it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 16, 2020, 01:53:29 PM
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As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P
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Wow!  You win the tech truck award.  I can't help but notice though, 1" hardware and yet you have special Ti nuts?

They're actually 7/8" Thunder bolts with Shorty's nuts - I never actually checked to see if the Shorty's bolts were shorter than regular brands. Will dismantle a bolt and check. EDIT: They're the same size as all the bolts I have kicking around...forged plate and low profile bolts is all.

Wow, are those kingpins/axle nuts and the machined washers worth it over the normal bones flat top and normal kingpin/axle nuts? Any differences besides the aesthetics? I always end up getting green riptides but the light blue ones look super sick, wonder if they feel different... And as always tempted to try the ace bushing combo, but reluctant to buy two sets of bushings for it.

Probably not :P

Riptide says they are molded for each truck, specifically, perhaps they are right but I've never noticed a difference, besides, it's plastic/urethane, it will squash out and deform anyway. There is a noticeable difference between the ACE and Indy ones tho, you can see it just looking at them (the ACE have a taller 'lip').

When I jumped on the Venture 2020 bandwagon, the only way I could get them to feel right was with Bones Softs and the Ace combo...the conicals felt tippy to me and the ACEs more how I think Venture (since they come with barrels stock) are supposed to feel. Personally ANY trucks that runs barrels feels better with ACEs dual duro combo. YMMV.

The Ti nuts for axle and pins are lower profile, I was able to get in an extra washer on the axles (inside); they're not that much lower, 1-2 mm maybe...they are, however much lighter if that matters.

The washers do give the bushings a bit more snap, I rode them without prior. I like flat washers as it is as they won't bind on the top bushing (venture stock washer do this) and a flat bottom, if you ride loose, let's the bottom bushing fully deform.

Probably not worth it at all but I'm bored :P
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on April 16, 2020, 02:14:30 PM
hell yeah Xen haha love the truck madness.  i swapped the gold baseplate on my Ti's for a silver forged plate from a pair V-lights also.  added the riptides, kept the stock bushings, but put a bones top washer.  dreamy my dude
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 16, 2020, 02:33:19 PM
hell yeah Xen haha love the truck madness.  i swapped the gold baseplate on my Ti's for a silver forged plate from a pair V-lights also.  added the riptides, kept the stock bushings, but put a bones top washer.  dreamy my dude

Not a fan of the gold theme they have going for the Ti trucks...seems weird to me to not offer regular raw/silver...who are they marketing to with that?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 16, 2020, 02:38:19 PM
Useful info! May I ask what you prefer about the ace bushing combo besides the fact that its softer. Did you have any gripes with stock bushings asides from the fact that it was too hard? And just wondering, how loose do you skate?

The wheel/hardware and kingpin nuts look pretty cool, and honestly might cop if they were a little bit cheaper. I can't imagine the weight difference they make being more than the difference between solid trucks and hollows... maybe I'm wrong. Also wonder how the titanium kingpin would fare for smith grinds, if it would catch easier, or maybe be better...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 16, 2020, 02:47:51 PM
Useful info! May I ask what you prefer about the ace bushing combo besides the fact that its softer. Did you have any gripes with stock bushings asides from the fact that it was too hard? And just wondering, how loose do you skate?

The wheel/hardware and kingpin nuts look pretty cool, and honestly might cop if they were a little bit cheaper. I can't imagine the weight difference they make being more than the difference between solid trucks and hollows... maybe I'm wrong. Also wonder how the titanium kingpin would fare for smith grinds, if it would catch easier, or maybe be better...

I ride loose so softer is always better for me. I'm lazy so if I don't have to break in bushings, I won't and I love the way the ACE bushings feel (they're great in Indys).

Didn't like the stock purples I had on my hollow 5.6s, fell squashy, no rebound; the white ones that came on the Ti, feel the same (still have a purple combo from my kids trucks, set them up on bones as they are featherweight in size).

The ACE urethane is clearly nicer, dual duro is just icing really (and something I've run before using the ACEs. You can clearly see and feel the quality difference between the stock Ventures and the ACEs just by holding them.

I remember a few posts back someone mentioned using the ACE lows (could be in the context of venture lows). But the ACE bottom is the same size as Indy/Venture stock bottoms and the ACE low top is the same as all the other top bushings out there (ace reg top being super tall).

Anyway: NOTE: using a top machine washer as I have two sets but only one set of bigger bottom washers (no, they're not yours dude ;))


ACE LOW bottom left, machine washer | STOCK Venture right
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ACE Low Left stock venture washer  | STOCK Venture right
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It's a lot of useless truck nerdery!



Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 16, 2020, 03:10:02 PM
pretty convincing, I'm closer and closer to pulling the trigger... which flat washers did you get exactly from muir? Would you mind linking me? And how durable are the ace bushings in ventures? After a while my bushings sometimes split or start to peel, have you noticed any durability issues?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 16, 2020, 03:31:19 PM
pretty convincing, I'm closer and closer to pulling the trigger... which flat washers did you get exactly from muir? Would you mind linking me? And how durable are the ace bushings in ventures? After a while my bushings sometimes split or start to peel, have you noticed any durability issues?

https://www.muirskate.com/

https://www.muirskate.com/longboard/products/54091/array-machined-barrel-sleeved-washer-cone-sleeved-washer-combo-pack-four-pack

I've run these bushings for about 2 two wks in ventures (not this set but a different pair and was really into slappies); the set was run in indys in a (transition) park setting for about a month. They hold up great.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 16, 2020, 03:46:55 PM
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pretty convincing, I'm closer and closer to pulling the trigger... which flat washers did you get exactly from muir? Would you mind linking me? And how durable are the ace bushings in ventures? After a while my bushings sometimes split or start to peel, have you noticed any durability issues?
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https://www.muirskate.com/

https://www.muirskate.com/longboard/products/54091/array-machined-barrel-sleeved-washer-cone-sleeved-washer-combo-pack-four-pack

I've run these bushings for about 2 two wks in ventures (not this set but a different pair and was really into slappies); the set was run in indys in a (transition) park setting for about a month. They hold up great.

Thanks! Just got these and the ace normal/low bushings. No real complaints about my ventures as is tbh but anything to nerd out  8)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 16, 2020, 04:10:37 PM
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pretty convincing, I'm closer and closer to pulling the trigger... which flat washers did you get exactly from muir? Would you mind linking me? And how durable are the ace bushings in ventures? After a while my bushings sometimes split or start to peel, have you noticed any durability issues?
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https://www.muirskate.com/

https://www.muirskate.com/longboard/products/54091/array-machined-barrel-sleeved-washer-cone-sleeved-washer-combo-pack-four-pack

I've run these bushings for about 2 two wks in ventures (not this set but a different pair and was really into slappies); the set was run in indys in a (transition) park setting for about a month. They hold up great.
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Thanks! Just got these and the ace normal/low bushings. No real complaints about my ventures as is tbh but anything to nerd out  8)

Sweet, enjoy!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 16, 2020, 06:29:06 PM
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As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.
How is having the extended wheelbase of the forged working with that 6.5 tail. I want to try some ti ventures and Iím currently on the cast hiís but worry about it feeling too short
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 16, 2020, 06:43:17 PM
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As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.
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How is having the extended wheelbase of the forged working with that 6.5 tail. I want to try some ti ventures and Iím currently on the cast hiís but worry about it feeling too short

Are you able to get a tape measure out to check how much the Venture Titanium extend the WB out?
Cast plates - 3.4-3.5"
Forged - 3.25"

Could you help check those measurements?

Also, how could Krux bushing work with Ventures? Or we sticking to stock bushing?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 16, 2020, 06:46:33 PM
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As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.
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How is having the extended wheelbase of the forged working with that 6.5 tail. I want to try some ti ventures and Iím currently on the cast hiís but worry about it feeling too short
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Are you able to get a tape measure out to check how much the Venture Titanium extend the WB out?
Cast plates - 3.4-3.5"
Forged - 3.25"

Could you help check those measurements?

Also, how could Krux bushing work with Ventures? Or we sticking to stock bushing?
Wait.. the forged extend it less?

Donít make me spend more money
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on April 16, 2020, 07:01:10 PM
Yeah think thatís flipped. My cast 6.1 are 3.25Ē or so
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 16, 2020, 07:04:51 PM
Yeah think thatís flipped. My cast 6.1 are 3.25Ē or so

Yeah me too. But ya know... 2020 has been a wild year
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 16, 2020, 07:20:31 PM
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As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.
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How is having the extended wheelbase of the forged working with that 6.5 tail. I want to try some ti ventures and Iím currently on the cast hiís but worry about it feeling too short
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Are you able to get a tape measure out to check how much the Venture Titanium extend the WB out?
Cast plates - 3.4-3.5" 3.25"
Forged - 3.25" 3.4-3.5"

Could you help check those measurements?

Also, how could Krux bushing work with Ventures? Or we sticking to stock bushing?
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Wait.. the forged extend it less?

Donít make me spend more money

Corrected it.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 16, 2020, 07:51:23 PM
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As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.
[close]
How is having the extended wheelbase of the forged working with that 6.5 tail. I want to try some ti ventures and Iím currently on the cast hiís but worry about it feeling too short
[close]

Are you able to get a tape measure out to check how much the Venture Titanium extend the WB out?
Cast plates - 3.4-3.5" 3.25"
Forged - 3.25" 3.4-3.5"

Could you help check those measurements?

Also, how could Krux bushing work with Ventures? Or we sticking to stock bushing?
[close]
Wait.. the forged extend it less?

Donít make me spend more money
[close]

Corrected it.

About 3.5/3.6

I'd imagine Krux work great, same size and whatnot.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: pointandclick on April 16, 2020, 08:03:19 PM
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As I couldn't find any Thunder Ti 148s that didn't cost an arm and a leg with shipping, I went with Ti 5.6 Venture (Prods,  gold hanger graphic isn't really that noticeable) and since I am not really skating anything bu flatland in the driveway, any 53/52mm truck will do. They were delivered this morning and with a bit tweaking this is what I ended up with:

  • Swapped gold (bleh) for silver forged plates from my kids board (she is riding 5.6 V-lites)
  • ACE regs bottom, low tops dual duro bushings (new ones)
  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts
  • Riptide cups (new ones with the pinhole) they're the indy ones but fit perfect
  • Muir skate machined washers (they have a metal insert that act like bones plastic washers/insert)

Talk about Caronabordem :P

No idea what the deal was but each stock pivot cup just fell out when I took the truck apart, they weren't as snug as usual.
[close]
How is having the extended wheelbase of the forged working with that 6.5 tail. I want to try some ti ventures and Iím currently on the cast hiís but worry about it feeling too short
[close]

Are you able to get a tape measure out to check how much the Venture Titanium extend the WB out?
Cast plates - 3.4-3.5" 3.25"
Forged - 3.25" 3.4-3.5"

Could you help check those measurements?

Also, how could Krux bushing work with Ventures? Or we sticking to stock bushing?
[close]
Wait.. the forged extend it less?

Donít make me spend more money
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Corrected it.
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About 3.5/3.6

I'd imagine Krux work great, same size and whatnot.
they work well but you have to shave the bottom down a bit.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on April 20, 2020, 08:11:39 AM
Noticed today that I been riding my Ventures wrong since I changed to the Primitive 8.125 and 5.6 v lights. I thought because the longer wheelbase I had to stand closer with my feet. But today they felt like shit got much better. With 14 wheelbase Ventures are perfect to stand comfortable with my feet, they are spread out exactly how I want it. I'm so happy right now that I tried Ventures again. I just need to get a little bit more used to them before advancing more :) Also coming from winter break. But the basic stuff back just needs to clean it up a bit.

Edit: People say Ventures don't grind as good. On my way home I stopped by a stair made of plates supers crunchy never skated never waxed. I was just gonna check if I could come up 50 50 easy and crux without problems and I even slid. Only trucks waxed, felt like they grinded better than Thunder for sure. Not sure about Indyus doe :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on April 22, 2020, 03:19:26 AM
Got two questions for Venture riders...
Love my 5.2 Ti's so far (3 weeks now) but:
1. They are noisier than my Indys, put some speed cream in the bushings which made it better, but didn't stop.
2. Right now they tend to stay a little bit dipped, when I get off the board, so the board doesnt roll straight but into one direction (if you know what I mean). Never had that with Indys.
Any tips or are both of these issues just disappearing with time, when the bushing gonna break in some more?
Thanks for any input in advance...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: oneOone on April 22, 2020, 05:42:29 AM

  • Acer Racing Ti Kingpin and Axle nuts


Did you weight and compare them to stock nuts? Thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: baustin on April 22, 2020, 06:20:46 AM
Got two questions for Venture riders...
Love my 5.2 Ti's so far (3 weeks now) but:
1. They are noisier than my Indys, put some speed cream in the bushings which made it better, but didn't stop.
2. Right now they tend to stay a little bit dipped, when I get off the board, so the board doesnt roll straight but into one direction (if you know what I mean). Never had that with Indys.
Any tips or are both of these issues just disappearing with time, when the bushing gonna break in some more?
Thanks for any input in advance...

Try some wax shavings in the pivot cups, they're usually the source of noise. Once you do that and they are broken in a bit more they'll return to center better.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 22, 2020, 06:57:27 AM
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Got two questions for Venture riders...
Love my 5.2 Ti's so far (3 weeks now) but:
1. They are noisier than my Indys, put some speed cream in the bushings which made it better, but didn't stop.
2. Right now they tend to stay a little bit dipped, when I get off the board, so the board doesnt roll straight but into one direction (if you know what I mean). Never had that with Indys.
Any tips or are both of these issues just disappearing with time, when the bushing gonna break in some more?
Thanks for any input in advance...
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Try some wax shavings in the pivot cups, they're usually the source of noise. Once you do that and they are broken in a bit more they'll return to center better.

I second that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on April 22, 2020, 08:15:45 AM
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Got two questions for Venture riders...
Love my 5.2 Ti's so far (3 weeks now) but:
1. They are noisier than my Indys, put some speed cream in the bushings which made it better, but didn't stop.
2. Right now they tend to stay a little bit dipped, when I get off the board, so the board doesnt roll straight but into one direction (if you know what I mean). Never had that with Indys.
Any tips or are both of these issues just disappearing with time, when the bushing gonna break in some more?
Thanks for any input in advance...
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Try some wax shavings in the pivot cups, they're usually the source of noise. Once you do that and they are broken in a bit more they'll return to center better.

Thanks guys!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on April 23, 2020, 04:22:21 AM
Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on April 23, 2020, 04:41:11 AM
Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.
how many fingers of flat? And diff wb? Feel like there are more factors there too
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 23, 2020, 04:54:55 AM
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Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.
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how many fingers of flat? And diff wb? Feel like there are more factors there too
No flat between the bolts and nose or tail is a deal breaker with Ventures for sure.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on April 23, 2020, 05:09:48 AM
Shit. One of the reasons I moved from Indy to venture is I felt like I was ghost popping way too much on indys.

^So based on that logic, if I rode Indys with no fingers of flat, would I experience less ghost pop on Indys?


Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on April 23, 2020, 05:17:16 AM
Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.

Just made the switch from Indys three weeks ago, boards I rode so far with the 5.2hi's had both a 14WB: I had to pop a little (!) different. Just pointed my back foot an idea more into the direction of my tail (instead of having it "parallel" to the back truck). Got way less ghost pop than with Indys now, didnt have that much before anyway. But got a way better pop now, much more consistent, way more confidence into jumping on/over bigger stuff, won't go back.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 23, 2020, 05:41:02 AM
Shit. One of the reasons I moved from Indy to venture is I felt like I was ghost popping way too much on indys.

^So based on that logic, if I rode Indys with no fingers of flat, would I experience less ghost pop on Indys?
In my experience my best bet is Ventures with a board that has the flat and a shorter wb. Indys with a board that has little or no flat with a longer wb.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 23, 2020, 05:46:59 AM
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Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.
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Just made the switch from Indys three weeks ago, boards I rode so far with the 5.2hi's had both a 14WB: I had to pop a little (!) different. Just pointed my back foot an idea more into the direction of my tail (instead of having it "parallel" to the back truck). Got way less ghost pop than with Indys now, didnt have that much before anyway. But got a way better pop now, much more consistent, way more confidence into jumping on/over bigger stuff, won't go back.
That is 100% true for me as well..great advice
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on April 23, 2020, 06:17:43 AM
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Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.
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Just made the switch from Indys three weeks ago, boards I rode so far with the 5.2hi's had both a 14WB: I had to pop a little (!) different. Just pointed my back foot an idea more into the direction of my tail (instead of having it "parallel" to the back truck). Got way less ghost pop than with Indys now, didnt have that much before anyway. But got a way better pop now, much more consistent, way more confidence into jumping on/over bigger stuff, won't go back.
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That is 100% true for me as well..great advice

Yeah props to both of you for the advice!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on April 23, 2020, 06:25:54 AM
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Shit. One of the reasons I moved from Indy to venture is I felt like I was ghost popping way too much on indys.

^So based on that logic, if I rode Indys with no fingers of flat, would I experience less ghost pop on Indys?
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In my experience my best bet is Ventures with a board that has the flat and a shorter wb. Indys with a board that has little or no flat with a longer wb.
What boards have you found to have that combo? For ventures I mean. Canít really go into my local atm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 23, 2020, 06:54:26 AM
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Shit. One of the reasons I moved from Indy to venture is I felt like I was ghost popping way too much on indys.

^So based on that logic, if I rode Indys with no fingers of flat, would I experience less ghost pop on Indys?
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In my experience my best bet is Ventures with a board that has the flat and a shorter wb. Indys with a board that has little or no flat with a longer wb.
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What boards have you found to have that combo? For ventures I mean. Canít really go into my local atm

I'm riding a theories brand right now 8.25 with a WB around 14.25

Generator. Its fucking nice. I usually skate rough ass shit so I can grind up a board fast. Be furring up corners in hrs sometimes.

Hopps has a dope series rn Polaroid

Good fingers of flat reasonable wb


B&C has an 8.25 with a 14" WB been told on here. Likely is got some ugly shit on it but whatever. I bet that's a dream on the manny pad.

I doubt ill ever see one.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: EchoShadow on April 23, 2020, 07:17:42 AM
5.8 titaniums delivered this morning. Canít wait for it to stop raining so I can try them out. First pair of
Ventures since 2000ish, rode them most of the 90s and Indys since. Most recently 149 and 144 titaniumís.

Here are my last pair. Found this old 7.5Ē in the basement.
(https://i.imgur.com/lZPQ39g.jpg)

Lack of supply locally left my only option the PRods. Anybody know how to get that logo off?
(https://i.imgur.com/cbQnYDk.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on April 23, 2020, 07:20:03 AM
My magenta 8Ē 14ĒWB  a little shorter than 31.5 on venture 5.2 lights + 52mm F4tablet 99du is an incredible set up

Really digging newer ventures so far
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 23, 2020, 07:24:31 AM
5.8 titaniums delivered this morning. Canít wait for it to stop raining so I can try them out. First pair of
Ventures since 2000ish, rode them most of the 90s and Indys since. Most recently 149 and 144 titaniumís.

Here are my last pair. Found this old 7.5Ē in the basement.
(https://i.imgur.com/lZPQ39g.jpg)

Lack of supply locally left my only option the PRods. Anybody know how to get that logo off?
(https://i.imgur.com/cbQnYDk.jpg)



Ooof. That aesthetics board damn
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 23, 2020, 07:34:05 AM
My magenta 8Ē 14ĒWB  a little shorter than 31.5 on venture 5.2 lights + 52mm F4tablet 99du is an incredible set up

Really digging newer ventures so far

I was looking for a magenta board awhile back. They post like Noooo measurements.
I need width for truck pairing, but length and wb have a far greater effect on how my day is gonna go
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Macho Taildrop on April 23, 2020, 08:03:31 AM
5.8 titaniums delivered this morning. Canít wait for it to stop raining so I can try them out. First pair of
Ventures since 2000ish, rode them most of the 90s and Indys since. Most recently 149 and 144 titaniumís.

Here are my last pair. Found this old 7.5Ē in the basement.
(https://i.imgur.com/lZPQ39g.jpg)

Lack of supply locally left my only option the PRods. Anybody know how to get that logo off?
(https://i.imgur.com/cbQnYDk.jpg)

I took the graphics off a set of Worrest ventures with acetone nail polish remover and a razor blade.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on April 23, 2020, 08:06:40 AM
5.8 titaniums delivered this morning. Canít wait for it to stop raining so I can try them out. First pair of
Ventures since 2000ish, rode them most of the 90s and Indys since. Most recently 149 and 144 titaniumís.

Here are my last pair. Found this old 7.5Ē in the basement.
(https://i.imgur.com/lZPQ39g.jpg)

Lack of supply locally left my only option the PRods. Anybody know how to get that logo off?
(https://i.imgur.com/cbQnYDk.jpg)
I canít stand graphics on trucks, I just prefer a raw truck. I had the worrest ventures and tried to ride them with the graphic on there but just didnít like the way they looked. Worrest fucking rips and itís nothing against him, I just didnít want any graphics on there, so I used some griptape scraps and scraped the graphics off; it worked pretty well. Might take some time and some calloused fingers tho.

Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.
Like someone was saying earlier, I had way more cases of ghost popping with indys than on ventures. I ride a pretty flat board with a good amount of finger room of flat on the tail and nose with a 14.25 wheelbase and with indys the tail just felt too light and flimsy on that shape, it almost felt like I was skating on a board with an already cracked tail sometimes, which resulted in a lot of ghost pop on tricks; mainly kickflips. With ventures though the tail feels heavier and more stable and more controllable, which led to a lot less ghost pop. With a board with no finger room of flat and a long wheelbase I can see how the tail might feel a bit too solid and heavy tho to where it would be detrimental. My only advice there would be either switch to Indy or ace, switch out your board to a board with more finger room of flat and a shorter wheelbase, or just pop harder on tricks and get used to it; if you skate something long enough youíll eventually get used to it no matter what; that adjustment period is a pain tho.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lukabrazi on April 23, 2020, 08:08:03 AM
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My magenta 8Ē 14ĒWB  a little shorter than 31.5 on venture 5.2 lights + 52mm F4tablet 99du is an incredible set up

Really digging newer ventures so far
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I was looking for a magenta board awhile back. They post like Noooo measurements.
I need width for truck pairing, but length and wb have a far greater effect on how my day is gonna go

Check out theories website . Iíve measured a bunch of their boards (bbs) and it seems mostly 8.25-8.375 is 14.25Ē WB , 8Ē is 14Ē, and 8.4-8.5 is 14.25Ē-14.5Ē
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on April 23, 2020, 08:25:35 AM
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5.8 titaniums delivered this morning. Canít wait for it to stop raining so I can try them out. First pair of
Ventures since 2000ish, rode them most of the 90s and Indys since. Most recently 149 and 144 titaniumís.

Here are my last pair. Found this old 7.5Ē in the basement.
(https://i.imgur.com/lZPQ39g.jpg)

Lack of supply locally left my only option the PRods. Anybody know how to get that logo off?
(https://i.imgur.com/cbQnYDk.jpg)
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I canít stand graphics on trucks, I just prefer a raw truck. I had the worrest ventures and tried to ride them with the graphic on there but just didnít like the way they looked. Worrest fucking rips and itís nothing against him, I just didnít want any graphics on there, so I used some griptape scraps and scraped the graphics off; it worked pretty well. Might take some time and some calloused fingers tho.

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Do the ghost pop disappear when you get used to riding Ventures from Indys or is it a trait of Ventures you just have to deal with. I'm starting to feel like should I go back to an 8 board with 8 Indys. Or keep riding my 5.6 Ventures on my Primitive 8,125, board with 14 wheelbase. Because sometimes I feel like I'm loving the Ventures, but when I go out just to go to the store I can't even ollie I'm ghost popping. I have to warm up a lot before the ghost pop disappear and then the ollies feel way better and leveled out. Sucks being such a fucking OCDed skate nerd. I will keep riding them until I'm 100% sure.
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Like someone was saying earlier, I had way more cases of ghost popping with indys than on ventures. I ride a pretty flat board with a good amount of finger room of flat on the tail and nose with a 14.25 wheelbase and with indys the tail just felt too light and flimsy on that shape, it almost felt like I was skating on a board with an already cracked tail sometimes, which resulted in a lot of ghost pop on tricks; mainly kickflips. With ventures though the tail feels heavier and more stable and more controllable, which led to a lot less ghost pop. With a board with no finger room of flat and a long wheelbase I can see how the tail might feel a bit too solid and heavy tho to where it would be detrimental. My only advice there would be either switch to Indy or ace, switch out your board to a board with more finger room of flat and a shorter wheelbase, or just pop harder on tricks and get used to it; if you skate something long enough youíll eventually get used to it no matter what; that adjustment period is a pain tho.

Just use Citristrip, itll remove those logos in like an hour and wont ruin ur trucks at all
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 23, 2020, 08:54:58 AM
5.8 titaniums delivered this morning. Canít wait for it to stop raining so I can try them out. First pair of
Ventures since 2000ish, rode them most of the 90s and Indys since. Most recently 149 and 144 titaniumís.

Lack of supply locally left my only option the PRods. Anybody know how to get that logo off?
(https://i.imgur.com/cbQnYDk.jpg)

Lack of supply here so I bought the same pair online; truth be told, the baseplate is more offensive than the logo :P Seriously as far as truck graphics go (and I wanted to remove these as well) the art on these is really subdued and hardly prominent. I just left them as is.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: EchoShadow on April 23, 2020, 09:03:00 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions. Just didnít want to try something on my own that would mess up the finish. Seems like any of those methods should work. Appreciated.  8)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 23, 2020, 09:12:19 AM
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Shit. One of the reasons I moved from Indy to venture is I felt like I was ghost popping way too much on indys.

^So based on that logic, if I rode Indys with no fingers of flat, would I experience less ghost pop on Indys?
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In my experience my best bet is Ventures with a board that has the flat and a shorter wb. Indys with a board that has little or no flat with a longer wb.
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What boards have you found to have that combo? For ventures I mean. Canít really go into my local atm
I recently had a Traffic 8.25 with a 14.25 wb and some flat before the kicks with Ventures and the pop of my flip tricks felt like I was young again.. Now I have a Zero 8.5 with a 14.5 wb, no flat area and steep kicks and Ventures were horrible on it as expected. I put indys on and its perfect.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 23, 2020, 10:02:57 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions. Just didn’t want to try something on my own that would mess up the finish. Seems like any of those methods should work. Appreciated.  8)

After reading/replying I went back at them with regular steel wool. Took that shit right off under 20 seconds no major finish damage (they're going to get wrecked anyway).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 23, 2020, 10:19:40 AM
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Shit. One of the reasons I moved from Indy to venture is I felt like I was ghost popping way too much on indys.

^So based on that logic, if I rode Indys with no fingers of flat, would I experience less ghost pop on Indys?
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In my experience my best bet is Ventures with a board that has the flat and a shorter wb. Indys with a board that has little or no flat with a longer wb.
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What boards have you found to have that combo? For ventures I mean. Canít really go into my local atm
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I recently had a Traffic 8.25 with a 14.25 wb and some flat before the kicks with Ventures and the pop of my flip tricks felt like I was young again.. Now I have a Zero 8.5 with a 14.5 wb, no flat area and steep kicks and Ventures were horrible on it as expected. I put indys on and its perfect.

I think the 14.5" WB paired with Ventures is the real problem vs. Steep kicks/no flat and Venture but that's jsut my experience on long wheelbases and flip tricks, they just take so much effort and feel like they're in slow motion.

That said, I do prefer more flat with Ventures.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on April 23, 2020, 10:46:00 AM
would i like forged ventures with a 14.25 WB? does that make the axle to axle wb too long and rotational tricks too slow? looking to retry ventures in a lighter version since the 6.1s i ran were too heavy for my liking to review them properly. just dont want to spend for titaniums and hate them immediately
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 23, 2020, 10:52:30 AM
would i like forged ventures with a 14.25 WB? does that make the axle to axle wb too long and rotational tricks too slow? looking to retry ventures in a lighter version since the 6.1s i ran were too heavy for my liking to review them properly. just dont want to spend for titaniums and hate them immediately

people seem to dislike forged ventures on wheelbases of that length but its fine for me. I can do up to 14.38 pretty comfortably, then again I came from longer wheelbases on other trucks originally and for me I have no issue with scooping for rotational tricks and often over rotate if the board is too short
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on April 23, 2020, 10:56:38 AM
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would i like forged ventures with a 14.25 WB? does that make the axle to axle wb too long and rotational tricks too slow? looking to retry ventures in a lighter version since the 6.1s i ran were too heavy for my liking to review them properly. just dont want to spend for titaniums and hate them immediately
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people seem to dislike forged ventures on wheelbases of that length but its fine for me. I can do up to 14.38 pretty comfortably, then again I came from longer wheelbases on other trucks originally and for me I have no issue with scooping for rotational tricks and often over rotate if the board is too short
are ventures good with short tails? thats the other thing i forgot to include
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on April 23, 2020, 10:58:59 AM
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would i like forged ventures with a 14.25 WB? does that make the axle to axle wb too long and rotational tricks too slow? looking to retry ventures in a lighter version since the 6.1s i ran were too heavy for my liking to review them properly. just dont want to spend for titaniums and hate them immediately
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people seem to dislike forged ventures on wheelbases of that length but its fine for me. I can do up to 14.38 pretty comfortably, then again I came from longer wheelbases on other trucks originally and for me I have no issue with scooping for rotational tricks and often over rotate if the board is too short
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are ventures good with short tails? thats the other thing i forgot to include
Shortest tail Iíve used with ventures is 6.5 and it was fine
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on April 23, 2020, 11:00:36 AM
Please tell me that Ventures suck at the begining and then they are good...so far I hate mine
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 23, 2020, 11:05:01 AM
Please tell me that Ventures suck at the begining and then they are good...so far I hate mine


All about the wb for me.
And removing the top washer.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 23, 2020, 11:12:04 AM
would i like forged ventures with a 14.25 WB? does that make the axle to axle wb too long and rotational tricks too slow? looking to retry ventures in a lighter version since the 6.1s i ran were too heavy for my liking to review them properly. just dont want to spend for titaniums and hate them immediately

The shorter the better. I've ridden on 14.25 and 14.125 and 14" I wouldn't go any longer than the 14.25. I find the sweet spot for me is the 14.125" WB - but we're talking such a tiny amount between the three listed.

My Venturestein truck setup is really working for me now, very comfortable, low, stable and swervey
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 23, 2020, 01:35:29 PM
For me itís 14.25 wheelbase max on venture. They really shine on 14-14.25 with about 2 fingers of flat cast or forged plates. Too many fingers of flat between kicks? Use a forged baseplate. Not enough fingers of flat or the perfect amount? Cast baseplate. I had to do some mixing and matching to find my perfect combo, but I have the prod 5.6 titanium hanger like yíall above but I run it with a cast baseplate from a worrest set. Iím running it on 14.25 wheelbase quasi with mellow kicks 2 fingers of flat. Love everything about this setup.

Still looking for the perfect 8.1 board for my 5.2 hiís though, gotta be less than 31.8 length with a 14-14.125 wheelbase and nice square kicks/a good 2 fingers of flat. FA makes a good 8.1 but the kicks can be too extreme sometimes. And I actually donít like the quasi 8.1 too much haha
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 23, 2020, 04:16:29 PM
For me itís 14.25 wheelbase max on venture. They really shine on 14-14.25 with about 2 fingers of flat cast or forged plates. Too many fingers of flat between kicks? Use a forged baseplate. Not enough fingers of flat or the perfect amount? Cast baseplate. I had to do some mixing and matching to find my perfect combo, but I have the prod 5.6 titanium hanger like yíall above but I run it with a cast baseplate from a worrest set. Iím running it on 14.25 wheelbase quasi with mellow kicks 2 fingers of flat. Love everything about this setup.

Still looking for the perfect 8.1 board for my 5.2 hiís though, gotta be less than 31.8 length with a 14-14.125 wheelbase and nice square kicks/a good 2 fingers of flat. FA makes a good 8.1 but the kicks can be too extreme sometimes. And I actually donít like the quasi 8.1 too much haha

I run my Ventures on Primitive decks (currently 8.125x31.75x14.1WB) as it has mellow kicks and 2 fingers of flat, perfect fit and feel). However, it is not square/blunt kicks tho, (Quasi proto or FA/WKND style; 8.125" quasi is round no? That's what they told me in email, plus it's 14.25") but it's got the dims I want and I can't find what you are looking for either, I've been trying.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 23, 2020, 07:35:55 PM
For me itís 14.25 wheelbase max on venture. They really shine on 14-14.25 with about 2 fingers of flat cast or forged plates. Too many fingers of flat between kicks? Use a forged baseplate. Not enough fingers of flat or the perfect amount? Cast baseplate. I had to do some mixing and matching to find my perfect combo, but I have the prod 5.6 titanium hanger like yíall above but I run it with a cast baseplate from a worrest set. Iím running it on 14.25 wheelbase quasi with mellow kicks 2 fingers of flat. Love everything about this setup.

Still looking for the perfect 8.1 board for my 5.2 hiís though, gotta be less than 31.8 length with a 14-14.125 wheelbase and nice square kicks/a good 2 fingers of flat. FA makes a good 8.1 but the kicks can be too extreme sometimes. And I actually donít like the quasi 8.1 too much haha

Truth! 14 - 14.25 is where I draw the line with Ventures. Truck weight to a lesser degree, recently tried 5.8 standards with a Real 8.18 x 31.8 x 14.38 and it was heavy as fuck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on April 24, 2020, 10:28:44 AM
So my Venture experience hasn't been good so far.
I was already aware of the design fail regarding front bolts but this is ridiculous:
(https://i.imgur.com/0NeYJgYl.jpg)
Also I remember reading that the top washer hits the hanger but never expected that it would be this bad after literally 5 minutes skating:
(https://i.imgur.com/luU6I0zl.jpg)
Thankfully I was able to remove that damn red color on the baseplate but now pivot cups look weird:
(https://i.imgur.com/eEwYQsUl.jpg)
At least they look way better now but I'm not looking forward to try Venture again for sure. Maybe they need a little more time to feel good? Let's see.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 24, 2020, 10:42:28 AM
So my Venture experience hasn't been good so far.
I was already aware of the design fail regarding front bolts but this is ridiculous:
(https://i.imgur.com/0NeYJgYl.jpg)
Also I remember reading that the top washer hits the hanger but never expected that it would be this bad after literally 5 minutes skating:
(https://i.imgur.com/luU6I0zl.jpg)
Thankfully I was able to remove that damn red color on the baseplate but now pivot cups look weird:
(https://i.imgur.com/eEwYQsUl.jpg)
At least they look way better now but I'm not looking to try Venture again for sure. Maybe they need a little more time to broke in? Let's see.

Hahaha Iím laughing with you not at you trust me I have the same pair of trucks. I always remove the hanger before mounting baseplates with ventures itís so much easier for me. That pivot cup looks trash though I would maybe try to swap em out with a spare if you have one, my pivot cup never stuck out that much but Iíve had some shitty ones on brand new ventures donít get me wrong. Maybe do a little soap under the pivot cup and mash it down into place if possible? As far as the top washer binding the hanger thatís just the stability factor and whatís limiting the max turn on the trucks they are designed that way for stability I assume. Most people switch to a flat top washer or remove it completely. I leave mine stock and have no issues once bushings and pivots are completely broken in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on April 24, 2020, 10:45:49 AM
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So my Venture experience hasn't been good so far.
I was already aware of the design fail regarding front bolts but this is ridiculous:
(https://i.imgur.com/0NeYJgYl.jpg)
Also I remember reading that the top washer hits the hanger but never expected that it would be this bad after literally 5 minutes skating:
(https://i.imgur.com/luU6I0zl.jpg)
Thankfully I was able to remove that damn red color on the baseplate but now pivot cups look weird:
(https://i.imgur.com/eEwYQsUl.jpg)
At least they look way better now but I'm not looking to try Venture again for sure. Maybe they need a little more time to broke in? Let's see.

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Hahaha Iím laughing with you not at you trust me I have the same pair of trucks. I always remove the hanger before mounting baseplates with ventures itís so much easier for me. That pivot cup looks trash though I would maybe try to swap em out with a spare if you have one, my pivot cup never stuck out that much but Iíve had some shitty ones on brand new ventures donít get me wrong. Maybe do a little soap under the pivot cup and mash it down into place if possible? As far as the top washer binding the hanger thatís just the stability factor and whatís limiting the max turn on the trucks they are designed that way for stability I assume. Most people switch to a flat top washer or remove it completely. I leave mine stock and have no issues once bushings and pivots are completely broken in.
I got some spare pivot cups but I want to see if the stock ones work fine, I don't mind the silly look that much.
Regarding the top washer if I can't get used to Venture I'll leave them without the washer and throw the trucks into a second setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TokyoBoyzClub on April 24, 2020, 10:47:50 AM
So my Venture experience hasn't been good so far.
I was already aware of the design fail regarding front bolts but this is ridiculous:
(https://i.imgur.com/0NeYJgYl.jpg)
Also I remember reading that the top washer hits the hanger but never expected that it would be this bad after literally 5 minutes skating:
(https://i.imgur.com/luU6I0zl.jpg)
Thankfully I was able to remove that damn red color on the baseplate but now pivot cups look weird:
(https://i.imgur.com/eEwYQsUl.jpg)
At least they look way better now but I'm not looking forward to try Venture again for sure. Maybe they need a little more time to feel good? Let's see.
What'd you use to remove the red? I got some new P-Rod Titanium's with gold base plates and I hate it. Havne't put them on yet since I"m stuck inside, but if there's something easy, I can do it while stuck inside. Thanks!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Weezil on April 24, 2020, 11:00:34 AM
after a while that washer will groove into the trucks and free up the turn. warm weather, slappys and bombing hills should free them up a bit. they end up turning on par with everything else after a while, definitely super stiff at first though, I shaved wax into the pivot cups and that helped make them feel more comfortable when they got looser.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on April 24, 2020, 11:19:43 AM
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So my Venture experience hasn't been good so far.
I was already aware of the design fail regarding front bolts but this is ridiculous:
(https://i.imgur.com/0NeYJgYl.jpg)
Also I remember reading that the top washer hits the hanger but never expected that it would be this bad after literally 5 minutes skating:
(https://i.imgur.com/luU6I0zl.jpg)
Thankfully I was able to remove that damn red color on the baseplate but now pivot cups look weird:
(https://i.imgur.com/eEwYQsUl.jpg)
At least they look way better now but I'm not looking forward to try Venture again for sure. Maybe they need a little more time to feel good? Let's see.
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What'd you use to remove the red? I got some new P-Rod Titanium's with gold base plates and I hate it. Havne't put them on yet since I"m stuck inside, but if there's something easy, I can do it while stuck inside. Thanks!
Paint remover but that thing is super toxic. Use with goggles and gloves.
I used a brush after leaving then like for 6 hours
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 24, 2020, 11:27:08 AM
after a while that washer will groove into the trucks and free up the turn. warm weather, slappys and bombing hills should free them up a bit. they end up turning on par with everything else after a while, definitely super stiff at first though, I shaved wax into the pivot cups and that helped make them feel more comfortable when they got looser.
Yessir I think Iím at that point with all my venture sets. Break in period can be brutal for some but I think the venture transition from always being an indy rider was super smooth for me. Got all mine nice and pinchy and carvy like my old indys felt. Some fat slappys, powerslides, pole jams, & hell just carving will free those babies up. Breaking in trucks is lame letís all admit it. But once itís good ooooohhhhh boi do I get excited.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 24, 2020, 11:35:51 AM
Mo
after a while that washer will groove into the trucks and free up the turn. warm weather, slappys and bombing hills should free them up a bit. they end up turning on par with everything else after a while, definitely super stiff at first though, I shaved wax into the pivot cups and that helped make them feel more comfortable when they got looser.


Yeah they break in. And turn very well.

People put shit on, pop an ollie/roll around for a day, and be like Ďnahí.
Ventures definitely take time to break in, or just use bones bushings. Way less break in, but the bones donít last all that long for me.

 Ventures do have a different turn than Indy/ace tho, obviously.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: street noledge on April 24, 2020, 03:40:12 PM
sssss
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Richard Skidder on April 24, 2020, 04:11:12 PM
Ok, rode featherlights in the 90's because my indy's were too heavy for my middleschool bod.

Switched to Indy's once I became a man, and then pretty recently tried Ace, so I am very used to the surfey turn, but it also gets a tad bit too wild at times.

Now want to join the Venture revival bandwagon, and will definitely be switching bushings on sight, but my question is do I get 5.6 Highs or Lows?

All that shit boggles my mind. Will be riding an 8.25 with 14.25 WB, but I'm sure I will be riding the ventures loose as fuck, and I ride 52-53MM wheels. Trying to avoid wheelbite, but still turn.

So high's or low's? I just want my flip tricks to return to my standards.
5.6 only comes in hi
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: street noledge on April 24, 2020, 04:24:01 PM
Ok, rode featherlights in the 90's because my indy's were too heavy for my middleschool bod.

Switched to Indy's once I became a man.

Now want to join the Venture revival bandwagon, and will definitely be switching bushings on sight, but my question is do I get 5.6 Highs or Lows?

All that shit boggles my mind. Will be riding an 8.25 with 14.25 WB, but I'm sure I will be riding the ventures loose as fuck, and I ride 52-53MM wheels. Trying to avoid wheelbite, but still turn.

So high's or low's? I just want my flip tricks to return to my standards.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 24, 2020, 06:16:46 PM
after a while that washer will groove into the trucks and free up the turn.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/WfyP9ebBuovu0/giphy.gif)

It's the single best improvement you can make to them once you set them up...
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 24, 2020, 08:02:15 PM
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Ok, rode featherlights in the 90's because my indy's were too heavy for my middleschool bod.

Switched to Indy's once I became a man, and then pretty recently tried Ace, so I am very used to the surfey turn, but it also gets a tad bit too wild at times.

Now want to join the Venture revival bandwagon, and will definitely be switching bushings on sight, but my question is do I get 5.6 Highs or Lows?

All that shit boggles my mind. Will be riding an 8.25 with 14.25 WB, but I'm sure I will be riding the ventures loose as fuck, and I ride 52-53MM wheels. Trying to avoid wheelbite, but still turn.

So high's or low's? I just want my flip tricks to return to my standards.
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5.6 only comes in hi

I've heard a low is available. Or soon to be available
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Skart on April 25, 2020, 10:09:13 AM
Just use steel wool or a wet sanding block to remove truck colors/graphics
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 25, 2020, 12:43:44 PM
PRod Ti with the graphic removed via steel wool, you can still see some of the gold on the left side of the V 'crease' on the hanger.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/Ic4VQqngrobt7BLVhSdCW2mpD42fY0mm-t3y8zKf-Vt8qBsfc7wTCkYy8099uNAqhGozyM9HvuN_49FtAd1Cb1GByLog6hrE0uCk9SC57TY5gHsb_CK6qhDqzcXeSh_s_FV9Q1cBHVg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 26, 2020, 03:09:35 AM
Just set up some ace bushings (standard bottom, low top) with those muir machined washers with the metal inserts Xen had a few pages before. Haven't been able to skate yet but initial impression is good, the lean feels smooth and quiet and the bushings are noticeably better quality than stock. You definitely need the ace low top bushings as the normal ace ones are way too tall. But while the standard ace bottoms fit, the ace lows also seem to fit, and actually were exactly the same height as my stock bushings which have probably been compressed quite a bit from use. So not sure whether the low or standard ace bottom would be better, going with standard for now

My only concern is that the ace bushings seem to have an ever so slightly bigger diameter than the stocks and the diameter of the washers is a hair smaller than the diameter of the side of the bushing that touches the washer. This makes me a bit worried about the bushing bulging over the washer with extended use. I ride my trucks probably a solid medium, slightly loose so not sure how thats going to affect things either.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on April 26, 2020, 07:35:10 AM
Just set up some ace bushings (standard bottom, low top) with those muir machined washers with the metal inserts Xen had a few pages before. Haven't been able to skate yet but initial impression is good, the lean feels smooth and quiet and the bushings are noticeably better quality than stock. You definitely need the ace low top bushings as the normal ace ones are way too tall. But while the standard ace bottoms fit, the ace lows also seem to fit, and actually were exactly the same height as my stock bushings which have probably been compressed quite a bit from use. So not sure whether the low or standard ace bottom would be better, going with standard for now

My only concern is that the ace bushings seem to have an ever so slightly bigger diameter than the stocks and the diameter of the washers is a hair smaller than the diameter of the side of the bushing that touches the washer. This makes me a bit worried about the bushing bulging over the washer with extended use. I ride my trucks probably a solid medium, slightly loose so not sure how thats going to affect things either.
i run standard ace bottoms with the stock washer and they bulged through the center hole of the washer after a couple of months. i just flipped them upside down and they feel pretty new again. they fit snug in thunders which have a taller stock bottom bushing than venture, so the low ones might be optimal for you.

if they get a little deformed, flip and forget has worked for me. i dont want to replace these bushings till they crumble

be sure to post your thoughts on that washer. they look interesting but im not completely sold on $20 washers yet
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on April 26, 2020, 09:10:24 AM
Skates today, my trucks feel a lot nicer and everything felt good.
I'm happy.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 26, 2020, 09:40:24 AM
Skates today, my trucks feel a lot nicer and everything felt good.
I'm happy.

Sick!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on April 26, 2020, 12:20:42 PM
Skates today, my trucks feel a lot nicer and everything felt good.
I'm happy.

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 26, 2020, 12:28:18 PM
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Just set up some ace bushings (standard bottom, low top) with those muir machined washers with the metal inserts Xen had a few pages before. Haven't been able to skate yet but initial impression is good, the lean feels smooth and quiet and the bushings are noticeably better quality than stock. You definitely need the ace low top bushings as the normal ace ones are way too tall. But while the standard ace bottoms fit, the ace lows also seem to fit, and actually were exactly the same height as my stock bushings which have probably been compressed quite a bit from use. So not sure whether the low or standard ace bottom would be better, going with standard for now

My only concern is that the ace bushings seem to have an ever so slightly bigger diameter than the stocks and the diameter of the washers is a hair smaller than the diameter of the side of the bushing that touches the washer. This makes me a bit worried about the bushing bulging over the washer with extended use. I ride my trucks probably a solid medium, slightly loose so not sure how thats going to affect things either.
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i run standard ace bottoms with the stock washer and they bulged through the center hole of the washer after a couple of months. i just flipped them upside down and they feel pretty new again. they fit snug in thunders which have a taller stock bottom bushing than venture, so the low ones might be optimal for you.

if they get a little deformed, flip and forget has worked for me. i dont want to replace these bushings till they crumble

be sure to post your thoughts on that washer. they look interesting but im not completely sold on $20 washers yet

Yeah the standard ace bottom is definitely a bit snug but standing on it feels good so I'll just run it until it gets fucked and then switch out to the lows if needed. Damn, I'm a bit worried about the bulging around the perimeter of the bushings now, flat bottom washers are even more susceptible to bushing bulging than cup washers but fingers crossed I guess... it definitely feels good thats for sure.

The washers are good, I ran them with stocks for a few sessions and they feel a bit better turning than stock washers and have a somewhat nice snap back... but they're just fucking washers and spending money on them could have easily made me imagine that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on April 26, 2020, 02:25:08 PM
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Just set up some ace bushings (standard bottom, low top) with those muir machined washers with the metal inserts Xen had a few pages before. Haven't been able to skate yet but initial impression is good, the lean feels smooth and quiet and the bushings are noticeably better quality than stock. You definitely need the ace low top bushings as the normal ace ones are way too tall. But while the standard ace bottoms fit, the ace lows also seem to fit, and actually were exactly the same height as my stock bushings which have probably been compressed quite a bit from use. So not sure whether the low or standard ace bottom would be better, going with standard for now

My only concern is that the ace bushings seem to have an ever so slightly bigger diameter than the stocks and the diameter of the washers is a hair smaller than the diameter of the side of the bushing that touches the washer. This makes me a bit worried about the bushing bulging over the washer with extended use. I ride my trucks probably a solid medium, slightly loose so not sure how thats going to affect things either.
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i run standard ace bottoms with the stock washer and they bulged through the center hole of the washer after a couple of months. i just flipped them upside down and they feel pretty new again. they fit snug in thunders which have a taller stock bottom bushing than venture, so the low ones might be optimal for you.

if they get a little deformed, flip and forget has worked for me. i dont want to replace these bushings till they crumble

be sure to post your thoughts on that washer. they look interesting but im not completely sold on $20 washers yet
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Yeah the standard ace bottom is definitely a bit snug but standing on it feels good so I'll just run it until it gets fucked and then switch out to the lows if needed. Damn, I'm a bit worried about the bulging around the perimeter of the bushings now, flat bottom washers are even more susceptible to bushing bulging than cup washers but fingers crossed I guess... it definitely feels good thats for sure.

The washers are good, I ran them with stocks for a few sessions and they feel a bit better turning than stock washers and have a somewhat nice snap back... but they're just fucking washers and spending money on them could have easily made me imagine that.
hope thats not the case with these riptides coming in but im crossing fingers here

it would be harder to test washers forsure but im interested in your review of you ever do one. up to you or Xen as far as i know
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on April 26, 2020, 02:29:27 PM
Yep check back with us after some time for those washers and bushings to see how they mesh! Never tried riptides either but always been intrigued
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 26, 2020, 03:44:02 PM
I usually skate riptide pivot cups if I feel like spending the money on them. They make your trucks a bit less squeaky usually and make the turn a tiny bit smoother as a result but again its only a pretty minor aesthetic difference and definitely won't make you skate better or anything.

One thing about riptide cups for Ventures and Thunders I've noticed is that the pivot cup is a bit taller than the stock one and often sits above the top of the pivot cup hole. a little bit, this can make the top 'lip' of the pivot cup sometimes start to rip and deform a bit. If possible, its best to try and trim it so that it sits completely flush in the pivot hole like the stock ones.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on April 26, 2020, 07:15:11 PM
Skates today, my trucks feel a lot nicer and everything felt good.
I'm happy.

Did you do anything different with your Ventures to improve the experience? I like 5.2 Los in V-Hollow, 5.8 standards are too heavy for my liking.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on April 26, 2020, 07:49:26 PM
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Skates today, my trucks feel a lot nicer and everything felt good.
I'm happy.
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Did you do anything different with your Ventures to improve the experience? I like 5.2 Los in V-Hollow, 5.8 standards are too heavy for my liking.
Actually yes, I used paint remover on the baseplate with out taking out the pivot cups. Now they look weird but feel better. Also I stood on my board on a carpet and I was leaning (is that the word?) with all my weight left/right for like 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on April 28, 2020, 07:19:55 AM
^^haha moon i do that at work when i get new trucks.  i have a stand up desk and ill just rock back and forth on the board to try and help the break in process.

anyone have a preference between v-lights and titaniums?  i've heard some people say the titaniums grind 'worse'
any truth to this?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 28, 2020, 07:34:14 AM
^^haha moon i do that at work when i get new trucks.  i have a stand up desk and ill just rock back and forth on the board to try and help the break in process.

anyone have a preference between v-lights and titaniums?  i've heard some people say the titaniums grind 'worse'
any truth to this?

There isnít truth to titanium lights grinding worse*, the titanium is in the axle. Not the hanger. You wonít be grinding the titanium part for quite awhile.

* Iíve heard/seen enough people have this opinion that I THINK that maybe whatís happening is that a lighter truck might not grind as well for some people, or might not feel as Ďgoodí, grinding, as a heavier truck. Iíve never had titanium anything. Hollow light thunders felt a little Ďtinnyí or Ďchatteryí on cement grinds for me. A heavier cast truck felt more dull, and the more weight when grinding was nice. But this is one of those rain man without the talent things.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on April 28, 2020, 08:11:27 AM
^^nice, thank you for the insight dude
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 28, 2020, 11:58:22 AM
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^^haha moon i do that at work when i get new trucks.  i have a stand up desk and ill just rock back and forth on the board to try and help the break in process.

anyone have a preference between v-lights and titaniums?  i've heard some people say the titaniums grind 'worse'
any truth to this?
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There isnít truth to titanium lights grinding worse*, the titanium is in the axle. Not the hanger. You wonít be grinding the titanium part for quite awhile.

* Iíve heard/seen enough people have this opinion that I THINK that maybe whatís happening is that a lighter truck might not grind as well for some people, or might not feel as Ďgoodí, grinding, as a heavier truck. Iíve never had titanium anything. Hollow light thunders felt a little Ďtinnyí or Ďchatteryí on cement grinds for me. A heavier cast truck felt more dull, and the more weight when grinding was nice. But this is one of those rain man without the talent things.

It's definitely the truck weight (+Body weight+Speed).

I go fast no matter what (it's fun) and being afflicted with truck madness I have full speed ground the same curbs/ledges (slappies or popped) with a ton of trucking combos and SOLID trucks feel better grinding, i.e., cast plates, solid pin, solid axle) - but that's personal preference.

Tensor ATGs? Grind like butter but feel 'weird' not as raw or guttural on and the grind sensation is lessened (even worse skating them on hollow metal coping, feels bad). Titanium axle trucks feel fine to me tho; hollow thunders like you mentioned feel waaaaay to tinny but you get used to it.

I've never OCD on thunder feel harder than Venture or Indy or whatever the fuck, I'm always going fast enough to not notice (I did have to slow down on the ATGs until I got used to it, then if felt like cheating).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: The.Tran.Man on April 28, 2020, 12:08:36 PM
Anyone ride Ventures on decks with steep kicks? Currently running 5.8 stock with the bones top washer on a 8.25 FA deck. I get a little bit of ghost pop on some nollie tricks, but overall they feel fine (maybe its requires more effort to get good pop, but I'm sure that is just a muscle memory issue). Just wanted to hear some thoughts about this bc generally I hear Ventures work best on decks with mellow kicks (my last 2 decks were primitive). Should I just throw my Ace 44's on the FA?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 28, 2020, 12:15:27 PM
Anyone ride Ventures on decks with steep kicks? Currently running 5.8 stock with the bones top washer on a 8.25 FA deck. I get a little bit of ghost pop on some nollie tricks, but overall they feel fine (maybe its requires more effort to get good pop, but I'm sure that is just a muscle memory issue). Just wanted to hear some thoughts about this bc generally I hear Ventures work best on decks with mellow kicks (my last 2 decks were primitive). Should I just throw my Ace 44's on the FA?

I've had Ventures with forged plates on steep kicks, it was a bit gnarly at first but ended up getting used to it and it was fine. I do think that Ventures tend to work a bit better on medium/mellow ish kicks (at least for me). But I feel like if you've skated Ventures for a while and are used to the feel on mellower kicks, going to Aces which are a very very different truck might mess with you more than Ventures on steeper kicks do.

Easiest fix would probably be smaller wheels, or if you want to change your trucks then maybe Thunders or Indys for a less drastic change... or just get used to it lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: spanyard on April 28, 2020, 12:42:14 PM
Currently riding FA with 5.8 casts and am getting more ghost nollies than would on a different deck/truck config... I have to definitely concentrate more on smashing the nose down.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: The.Tran.Man on April 28, 2020, 12:57:02 PM
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Anyone ride Ventures on decks with steep kicks? Currently running 5.8 stock with the bones top washer on a 8.25 FA deck. I get a little bit of ghost pop on some nollie tricks, but overall they feel fine (maybe its requires more effort to get good pop, but I'm sure that is just a muscle memory issue). Just wanted to hear some thoughts about this bc generally I hear Ventures work best on decks with mellow kicks (my last 2 decks were primitive). Should I just throw my Ace 44's on the FA?
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I've had Ventures with forged plates on steep kicks, it was a bit gnarly at first but ended up getting used to it and it was fine. I do think that Ventures tend to work a bit better on medium/mellow ish kicks (at least for me). But I feel like if you've skated Ventures for a while and are used to the feel on mellower kicks, going to Aces which are a very very different truck might mess with you more than Ventures on steeper kicks do.

Easiest fix would probably be smaller wheels, or if you want to change your trucks then maybe Thunders or Indys for a less drastic change... or just get used to it lol

thank you your input. i'll probably just keep running the ventures to get more used to it.
I'm aware of how different Aces are, but I do know that Aces are great on decks with steep kicks.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: art hellman on April 28, 2020, 12:58:54 PM
relevant to this thread's interests: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110524.msg3279365#new (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110524.msg3279365#new)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Idk on April 28, 2020, 02:15:51 PM
relevant to this thread's interests: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110524.msg3279365#new (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110524.msg3279365#new)
Did you try to became awake but you preferred to know control?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: art hellman on April 28, 2020, 02:49:23 PM
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relevant to this thread's interests: https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110524.msg3279365#new (https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110524.msg3279365#new)
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Did you try to became awake but you preferred to know control?

hard to say whether I'll be continuing to fuck the rest or have a preference of knowledge of control or loosely saving lives, or heck, maybe I go with the royal standard or have some good times since 1989
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: texasplant on April 28, 2020, 05:05:35 PM
My local shop just got a massive stock up on Venture. Iíve been able to contain the madness because I havenít seen them in person but the 6.1s look beautiful. How are they for transition/slappies? Coming off Indy/Ace
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 28, 2020, 08:49:00 PM
Just had a mellow ledge session on my 5.8 v-lights (with those flat washers that have the stem, and riptide pivots) with the ace bushings (low top, standard bottom) and damn, the bushings are good. No squeaking at all, super quiet and turns very smooth.

I don't skate super loose but can definitely see these being very surfy if you do skate loose. But even at my medium to medium loose setting, it felt a little bit turnier than stock without sacrificing stability. Felt like my truck was higher quality if that makes sense. Maybe its because of the fact that its dead silent so no creaking at all.

No sign of the bushings bulging over the flat top and bottom washers either, so far so good. Truck tinkering rarely makes you land tricks better imo. But in this case, though it was likely in my head, I felt a little more centered when popping and it didnt lean on the toes or heels unintentionally.

If you're willing to spend the money because you like to mess with your shit, I'd say its worth it. Definitely makes your trucks feel nicer, but if your trucks were working fine before this, it won't make you actually better at skating by any real margin.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on April 28, 2020, 08:59:42 PM
Just had a mellow ledge session on my 5.8 v-lights (with those flat washers that have the stem, and riptide pivots) with the ace bushings (low top, standard bottom) and damn, the bushings are good. No squeaking at all, super quiet and turns very smooth.

I don't skate super loose but can definitely see these being very surfy if you do skate loose. But even at my medium to medium loose setting, it felt a little bit turnier than stock without sacrificing stability. Felt like my truck was higher quality if that makes sense. Maybe its because of the fact that its dead silent so no creaking at all.

No sign of the bushings bulging over the flat top and bottom washers either, so far so good. Truck tinkering rarely makes you land tricks better imo. But in this case, though it was likely in my head, I felt a little more centered when popping and it didnt lean on the toes or heels unintentionally.

If you're willing to spend the money because you like to mess with your shit, I'd say its worth it. Definitely makes your trucks feel nicer, but if your trucks were working fine before this, it won't make you actually better at skating by any real margin.
before i broke in my ace bottoms, i was getting that center deadzone feeling. now that they are semi mushy the feeling is gone. if you can keep that feeling past the break in period ill be fully on board to try those washers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 28, 2020, 09:13:59 PM
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Just had a mellow ledge session on my 5.8 v-lights (with those flat washers that have the stem, and riptide pivots) with the ace bushings (low top, standard bottom) and damn, the bushings are good. No squeaking at all, super quiet and turns very smooth.

I don't skate super loose but can definitely see these being very surfy if you do skate loose. But even at my medium to medium loose setting, it felt a little bit turnier than stock without sacrificing stability. Felt like my truck was higher quality if that makes sense. Maybe its because of the fact that its dead silent so no creaking at all.

No sign of the bushings bulging over the flat top and bottom washers either, so far so good. Truck tinkering rarely makes you land tricks better imo. But in this case, though it was likely in my head, I felt a little more centered when popping and it didnt lean on the toes or heels unintentionally.

If you're willing to spend the money because you like to mess with your shit, I'd say its worth it. Definitely makes your trucks feel nicer, but if your trucks were working fine before this, it won't make you actually better at skating by any real margin.
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before i broke in my ace bottoms, i was getting that center deadzone feeling. now that they are semi mushy the feeling is gone. if you can keep that feeling past the break in period ill be fully on board to try those washers

Yeah its likely the washers have something to do with it, hopefully it stays like it is right now because its pretty much perfect. My biggest concerns are bulging and it getting squeaky with time which usually happens to me.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on April 28, 2020, 09:26:04 PM
would you still say theyre better than stock though after they started getting mushy
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on April 28, 2020, 09:48:11 PM
would you still say theyre better than stock though after they started getting mushy
check your messages i PM'd you

and they are better turn wise but for tricks and setting up, i much rather the deadzone. i cant remember how long that feeling lasted but my skating was great during that stage. i could skate near rattly loose and still be stable when its time to set my feet and pop

next pair i buy, ill gauge it. hopefully theres a trick to keeping them that way without having you buy a new set every month or so
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lloyd Braun on April 29, 2020, 08:33:23 AM
Anyone experience ventures getting looser as you skate them? Iíve been skating my current set (5.8 standard) for maybe 3 months all stock, started them like 2-3 turns. I tightened them up a few weeks ago and they seem way looser again. No big deal just wondering if anyone else has had the same experience. I go through trucks fast too, already on the axel on the back truck, lot of slappies.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: arrbee on April 29, 2020, 08:59:32 AM
Anyone experience ventures getting looser as you skate them? Iíve been skating my current set (5.8 standard) for maybe 3 months all stock, started them like 2-3 turns. I tightened them up a few weeks ago and they seem way looser again. No big deal just wondering if anyone else has had the same experience. I go through trucks fast too, already on the axel on the back truck, lot of slappies.

Stock bushings? Also have the temps gotten warmer in your area recently?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on April 29, 2020, 01:53:42 PM
I scored a second purple tops from a homie so now I'm running stock  bushing with a flat bones washer because it's warm.
I did all the basics out front then i Took the kids to the pond.

I hit the curb do a little crook fakie with the toe up like wacky style rock.

Felt mad good

I don't need no sticking bones
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: skatefresh on April 29, 2020, 02:18:41 PM
Anyone experience ventures getting looser as you skate them? Iíve been skating my current set (5.8 standard) for maybe 3 months all stock, started them like 2-3 turns. I tightened them up a few weeks ago and they seem way looser again. No big deal just wondering if anyone else has had the same experience. I go through trucks fast too, already on the axel on the back truck, lot of slappies.
I've had this experience on my ventures. I've skated 3 sets of 5.25 highs and one set of 5.25 lows. All of them I've had to periodically tighten a full turn or two from factory at some point after they've really broken in until the kingpin is almost one exposed thread showing. I can usually tell because my tre flips get soggy and rocketed when the truck starts loosening up or the bushings get mushier.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on April 30, 2020, 12:56:08 AM
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Anyone experience ventures getting looser as you skate them? Iíve been skating my current set (5.8 standard) for maybe 3 months all stock, started them like 2-3 turns. I tightened them up a few weeks ago and they seem way looser again. No big deal just wondering if anyone else has had the same experience. I go through trucks fast too, already on the axel on the back truck, lot of slappies.
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I've had this experience on my ventures. I've skated 3 sets of 5.25 highs and one set of 5.25 lows. All of them I've had to periodically tighten a full turn or two from factory at some point after they've really broken in until the kingpin is almost one exposed thread showing. I can usually tell because my tre flips get soggy and rocketed when the truck starts loosening up or the bushings get mushier.

Started my 5.2 highs as they were and sadly got to tighten them up a bit now (some weeks in), since I start to get a lot of wheelbite Ė even though the F4 tablets I'm running have gone down from 54mm to about 52 (51?) due to crusty ground. Kind of like how loose they are now, but hate the slams.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on April 30, 2020, 01:16:48 AM
over 52mm wheels and low trucks deserves some sort of award
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 30, 2020, 05:04:21 AM
I have bones bushings coming today, does anyone know if I still use the bottom washer with Venture hi's?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: arrbee on April 30, 2020, 05:58:01 AM
I have bones bushings coming today, does anyone know if I still use the bottom washer with Venture hi's?

I haven't on my last 3 sets.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on April 30, 2020, 06:54:55 AM
I have bones bushings coming today, does anyone know if I still use the bottom washer with Venture hi's?

when i had the bones bushings in my titaniums i left the bottom stock washer.  just for further reference though, i ended up going back to the stock bushings and only using the bones top washer.  felt a little better to me overall
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Just Giver on April 30, 2020, 09:34:39 AM
I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 30, 2020, 09:40:49 AM
I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.

I'd pass if I were you.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 30, 2020, 09:45:08 AM
I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.

Havenít had 55s, nor 6.1s. Currently really want 6.1s.
I went out on 2 different setups, in one day, you know, like a crazy person. One w/ 44s, one w/ 5.2 hiís. Iíve got the ventures really loose. They turn really well imo. I think youíd probably need some time to break them in, and then theyíll feel great. If you rode Indy for 15 years you skated stage 10s, and sometimes people equate venture hiís to stage 10s. Ish.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Just Giver on April 30, 2020, 10:07:19 AM
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I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.
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I'd pass if I were you.
My brain has been telling me that, but, goddamnit, their marketing is powerful. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on April 30, 2020, 10:16:13 AM
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I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.
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I'd pass if I were you.
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My brain has been telling me that, but, goddamnit, their marketing is powerful.

Also extremely relevant that I skipped past: transition. I donít skate it. So keep that in mind with what I rambled above
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Just Giver on April 30, 2020, 10:22:03 AM
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I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.
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I'd pass if I were you.
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My brain has been telling me that, but, goddamnit, their marketing is powerful.
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Also extremely relevant that I skipped past: transition. I donít skate it. So keep that in mind with what I rambled above
Thank you.  I skate transition, but I mainly skate street transitions that I find these days.  Ditches, fountains, and random DIYs were the transition is kind of sporadic and you push in between.  I'm not carving as much as if I were skating a bowl. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 30, 2020, 10:52:07 AM
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I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.
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I'd pass if I were you.
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My brain has been telling me that, but, goddamnit, their marketing is powerful.
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Also extremely relevant that I skipped past: transition. I donít skate it. So keep that in mind with what I rambled above
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Thank you.  I skate transition, but I mainly skate street transitions that I find these days.  Ditches, fountains, and random DIYs were the transition is kind of sporadic and you push in between.  I'm not carving as much as if I were skating a bowl.

Well street tranny vs park/bowl tranny, you should do fine with Ventures then; my statement comes from having used ventures and ACE (And thunder, ML, Indy, Theeve, Tensor...) all the in the same parks (big boy bowls and 1/4 or minis), for the big boy stuff, ACE or Indy all the way - everything else, any truck will do out of the mainstream brands; there are people that shred on everything but you're talking about moving from one camp to the other and it usually doesn't go well, but you might like the stability of Ventures?  Thunders might be a better move?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on April 30, 2020, 10:53:55 AM
Go for it. Can always resell em if you hate. 6.1 pretty popular and were somewhat hard to find
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on April 30, 2020, 01:21:41 PM
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I have bones bushings coming today, does anyone know if I still use the bottom washer with Venture hi's?
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when i had the bones bushings in my titaniums i left the bottom stock washer.  just for further reference though, i ended up going back to the stock bushings and only using the bones top washer.  felt a little better to me overall

Bones fit fine with no bottom washer, ran both soft and hard (and combos of each) but ultimately felt the ride was better on barrel bushings (better stability on center).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on April 30, 2020, 01:48:48 PM
Thanks guys I put them on without the bottom washer. Unfortunately its pouring out so I will have to try them out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on May 01, 2020, 01:18:37 AM
over 52mm wheels and low trucks deserves some sort of award

would you consider thunder 147ís low? I ran 53ís on them for a solid 6 months lol
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 01, 2020, 02:06:38 AM
Once did Thunder 149 standards with 56mm classics and didn't notice wheelbite affecting me that much. Though it was years ago and I'm much more concerned about gear now.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on May 01, 2020, 06:49:27 AM
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would you consider thunder 147ís low? I ran 53ís on them for a solid 6 months lol
im on thunder forged with 53 conical fulls and i cant wait for these to wear down to 51. getting broke tf off by wheelbite is the most annoying shit. its like getting kicked in the nuts, embarrassing then painful

Once did Thunder 149 standards with 56mm classics and didn't notice wheelbite affecting me that much. Though it was years ago and I'm much more concerned about gear now.
i wish i could for street but thats borderline masochism for me. congrats on pal status!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: ferraveemo on May 01, 2020, 08:34:16 AM
Anyone ever ran 5.8's on 8.75/9" Decks?

are they tippy and feel like a magic carpet?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Meathook on May 01, 2020, 09:19:53 AM
Anyone ever ran 5.8's on 8.75/9" Decks?

are they tippy and feel like a magic carpet?

Iím running 5.8 on a scumco 8.75 (measures 8-7/8Ē) and it doesnít feel super weird.  Coming from 8-3/8Ē it takes a bit to get used to but itís not bad.  Got this board on sale and itís probably one of the last Pennswood Scumcoís so I wanted it.  I have my own qualms with this deck but itís a more a wheelbase thing and not a ďdeck vs truck widthĒ thing.  I think once you get to 8-1/2Ē trucks they are more stable so you donít get AS much of a magic carpet feeling compare to say 8Ē trucks on an 8.25Ē or larger deck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 01, 2020, 09:29:43 AM
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when i had the bones bushings in my titaniums i left the bottom stock washer.  just for further reference though, i ended up going back to the stock bushings and only using the bones top washer.  felt a little better to me overall

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I skate a good bit of transition and am not good at manuals and my ledge game is mediocre -- will I hate ventures?  I'm so close to pulling the trigger on some, but I keep feeling like I won't like them.  I currently skate ACE 55s super loose.  I love them, but after only skating Indies for 15 years and then one set of ACEs, I'm curious to try something new.  I just really don't want to waste money.  I would get the 6.1s.
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I'd pass if I were you.
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My brain has been telling me that, but, goddamnit, their marketing is powerful.
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Also extremely relevant that I skipped past: transition. I don’t skate it. So keep that in mind with what I rambled above
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Thank you.  I skate transition, but I mainly skate street transitions that I find these days.  Ditches, fountains, and random DIYs were the transition is kind of sporadic and you push in between.  I'm not carving as much as if I were skating a bowl.

IDK. If you like the ace truck wide open and on a large WB it's going to feel like starting all over again for a while.

They rule on the mini ramp though.

This is the second reason why I switched

Also I needed my skate to become difficult again to progress in my mind.

I can't let it fall away to boredom or I'm a dead man
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on May 01, 2020, 02:26:47 PM
Venture cured my truck madness.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 01, 2020, 06:17:47 PM
Venture cured my truck madness.
Venture got me off drugs and back into school
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 02, 2020, 01:09:49 PM
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Venture cured my truck madness.
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Venture got me off drugs and back into school

Venture keeping me sane from isolation
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 02, 2020, 01:16:16 PM
Venture kept me from spreading the virus
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on May 02, 2020, 06:09:26 PM
Venture is the most stable thing in my life right now
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 02, 2020, 06:14:49 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_sCwtLpCtr/?igshid=5v62w2rgml6x
If there is a 5.6 in these sign me up  :)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on May 02, 2020, 07:32:50 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_sCwtLpCtr/?igshid=5v62w2rgml6x
If there is a 5.6 in these sign me up  :)
im no expert but i do think thats a popular size for ventures. you might be in luck
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 02, 2020, 07:38:45 PM
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If there is a 5.6 in these sign me up  :)
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im no expert but i do think thats a popular size for ventures. you might be in luck
It is but I almost wanna bet they go with a 5.2 and 5.8
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 02, 2020, 07:54:34 PM
The yellow baseplate looks like a big boi 6.1 or 5.8 at the least
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tangar on May 02, 2020, 08:31:07 PM
Venture is the most stable thing in my life right now
100 emoji. I hope they make the Thrasher ones in 6.1. praying hands emoji.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: SneakySecrets on May 02, 2020, 08:34:17 PM
I wonder how hard itíd be to scrub the THR SHER off of there cucumber emoji
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on May 03, 2020, 03:41:50 AM
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100 emoji. I hope they make the Thrasher ones in 6.1. praying hands emoji.
for sure. Wonder when they make 6.1 forged in general
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: In A Jar on May 04, 2020, 12:13:01 PM
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-07.jpg)
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-08.jpg)

Venture posted the sizing of the Thrasher trucks.  They are the standard team editions in most sizes.  Stoked! 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 04, 2020, 12:15:13 PM
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-07.jpg)
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-08.jpg)

Venture posted the sizing of the Thrasher trucks.  They are the standard team editions in most sizes.  Stoked! 
Fuck yes so stoked.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 04, 2020, 12:31:03 PM
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(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-07.jpg)
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-08.jpg)

Venture posted the sizing of the Thrasher trucks.  They are the standard team editions in most sizes.  Stoked! 
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Fuck yes so stoked.

Hi/lo w/ purple/red is the way
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 04, 2020, 01:24:19 PM
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(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-07.jpg)
(https://www.venturetrucks.net/spring20/ve-sp20-d2-dt-08.jpg)

Venture posted the sizing of the Thrasher trucks.  They are the standard team editions in most sizes.  Stoked! 
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Fuck yes so stoked.
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Hi/lo w/ purple/red is the way

Definitely scoring a set. I really wish the red bushing in the highs. Especially if that top bushing is little shorter or softer.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on May 04, 2020, 07:30:56 PM
I just bought new Indyís, but I want these thrasher ventures! one with a silver baseplate, and one with yellow.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Meathook on May 06, 2020, 12:20:16 PM
Anyone have any good recommendations for bushings that are SLIGHTLY harder than stock that actually fit in Ventures?  Iíve been riding stock bushings forever but after recently trying Ace low bushings in them, I liked it a little stiffer.  The mean of the Ace bushings is actually softer than stock 88.5a vs stock 90a), but they were stiff because the Ace bushings are too tall.  Also they splurge out and act strange with various washer combinations besides the washers they came with.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on May 06, 2020, 12:23:22 PM
Indy aftermarket bushings fit in Ventureís right?
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Post by: ballintoohard on May 06, 2020, 12:37:01 PM
Bones fit perfectly. Karl Watson has been rocking that combo for a decade
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on May 06, 2020, 12:37:21 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_1SH6BlsLP/?igshid=m37fx0vx9o2p
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on May 06, 2020, 02:55:27 PM
Anyone have any good recommendations for bushings that are SLIGHTLY harder than stock that actually fit in Ventures?  I’ve been riding stock bushings forever but after recently trying Ace low bushings in them, I liked it a little stiffer.  The mean of the Ace bushings is actually softer than stock 88.5a vs stock 90a), but they were stiff because the Ace bushings are too tall.  Also they splurge out and act strange with various washer combinations besides the washers they came with.
go dlx supercush. i put in the purple 97a but i'm 200 lbs and they seem to be breaking in fine, nut flush. slightly harder the 94a green ( i think?) might work for u
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Post by: Uncle Flea on May 06, 2020, 03:12:39 PM
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Anyone have any good recommendations for bushings that are SLIGHTLY harder than stock that actually fit in Ventures?  Iíve been riding stock bushings forever but after recently trying Ace low bushings in them, I liked it a little stiffer.  The mean of the Ace bushings is actually softer than stock 88.5a vs stock 90a), but they were stiff because the Ace bushings are too tall.  Also they splurge out and act strange with various washer combinations besides the washers they came with.
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go dlx supercush. i put in the purple 97a but i'm 200 lbs and they seem to be breaking in fine, nut flush. slightly harder the 94a green ( i think?) might work for u

I have a set they're 94. They and super soft clear are the only dxl aftermarket available if  at all
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on May 06, 2020, 03:46:38 PM
Finally
(https://i.imgur.com/8RIyziKl.jpg)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on May 06, 2020, 03:55:44 PM
The trasher collab comes in 6.1 mag?!!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 06, 2020, 03:56:43 PM
Finally
(https://i.imgur.com/8RIyziKl.jpg)
So dope! I swapped out my green bushings from my worrest and put them in my 5.8 kaders from the stock whites & paired with green and yellow shake junt hardware. Shit looks clean with the Rasta colored sword on the hanger!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 06, 2020, 06:43:55 PM
That's like the rod of David or something like this

not a sword.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on May 06, 2020, 07:42:10 PM
https://venturetrucks.net/

updated. thrasher collab all polished teams. none forged
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: HumBoogie on May 07, 2020, 06:31:50 AM
Anyone have any good recommendations for bushings that are SLIGHTLY harder than stock that actually fit in Ventures?  Iíve been riding stock bushings forever but after recently trying Ace low bushings in them, I liked it a little stiffer.  The mean of the Ace bushings is actually softer than stock 88.5a vs stock 90a), but they were stiff because the Ace bushings are too tall.  Also they splurge out and act strange with various washer combinations besides the washers they came with.
I weigh 170 and I've been riding bones medium because the purp got too soft for me. They work really good with venture.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on May 07, 2020, 08:01:26 PM
Finally
(https://i.imgur.com/8RIyziKl.jpg)
Btw anybody knows a little history behind the graphic? I'm pretty curious
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 07, 2020, 08:07:18 PM
They say the graphic is a reminder to ďalways pass it on the left hand sideĒ hahaha

https://tgmskateboards.com/venture-trucks-kader-sylla-awake-hi-silver-5-2-8-0/

Description at bottom
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on May 07, 2020, 08:28:59 PM
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Anyone have any good recommendations for bushings that are SLIGHTLY harder than stock that actually fit in Ventures?  Iíve been riding stock bushings forever but after recently trying Ace low bushings in them, I liked it a little stiffer.  The mean of the Ace bushings is actually softer than stock 88.5a vs stock 90a), but they were stiff because the Ace bushings are too tall.  Also they splurge out and act strange with various washer combinations besides the washers they came with.
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I weigh 170 and I've been riding bones medium because the purp got too soft for me. They work really good with venture.
Bones always feel good for a few weeks then they start feeling looser and looser and you always have to tighten them up like once every few weeks to keep them feeling how they originally felt when you put them in.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Meathook on May 08, 2020, 08:37:28 AM
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Anyone have any good recommendations for bushings that are SLIGHTLY harder than stock that actually fit in Ventures?  Iíve been riding stock bushings forever but after recently trying Ace low bushings in them, I liked it a little stiffer.  The mean of the Ace bushings is actually softer than stock 88.5a vs stock 90a), but they were stiff because the Ace bushings are too tall.  Also they splurge out and act strange with various washer combinations besides the washers they came with.
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I weigh 170 and I've been riding bones medium because the purp got too soft for me. They work really good with venture.
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Bones always feel good for a few weeks then they start feeling looser and looser and you always have to tighten them up like once every few weeks to keep them feeling how they originally felt when you put them in.

True, bones begin their dying process as soon as you set them up.  I settled with and Indy Soft Conical Bottom (88A) with a stock top.  In the vain of the slightly softer bottom and harder top that Ace has.  Since the Indy bushing is a little taller than stock, it gives some stability and also has a slightly quicker turn similar to Thunder.  Coming from skating Thunder for years, it feels a little closer to that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 08, 2020, 09:08:19 AM
Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, itís got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32Ē, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14Ē wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on May 09, 2020, 07:53:59 AM
Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, itís got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32Ē, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14Ē wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks

i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 09, 2020, 08:15:16 AM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, itís got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32Ē, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14Ē wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment

Quasi ps?
Those your measurements?
Do you measure point to point or tape pressed?
Despite being susceptible to Ďcoolí things, Iíve somehow not skated nearly enough quasi boards.

I am stoked on the 5.8s, need to muscle up a bit.

Thanks for your response and advice.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: shawngreg on May 09, 2020, 10:23:06 AM
Quasi is PS yeah
those are the measurements i found on a few sites, but i measured myself(point to point) and it was pretty spot on.  def over 32, i wasnt trying to squint and get up close and personal with the tape measure tho haha.  i had this shape before and liked it, but was skating 149's with it.  the ventures feel better to me now.

another thing- i did add riptide pivot cups and replaced the top washers with flat bones ones
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on May 10, 2020, 04:25:49 AM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, itís got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32Ē, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14Ē wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment

Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 10, 2020, 06:35:50 AM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, itís got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32Ē, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14Ē wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
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Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.

I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but itís a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25Ē trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5Ē.
Next time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 10, 2020, 09:02:08 AM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, itís got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32Ē, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14Ē wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
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Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
Girl and primitive have 825 with 14 inch wheelbase and should be pretty easy to come by. Skatepark of Tampa has a great tool to browse by dimensions
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on May 10, 2020, 12:12:18 PM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, itís got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32Ē, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14Ē wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
[close]

Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
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I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but itís a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25Ē trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5Ē.
Next time.
try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 10, 2020, 12:19:07 PM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, itís got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32Ē, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14Ē wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
[close]

Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
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I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but itís a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25Ē trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5Ē.
Next time.
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try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g

I agree, to an extent. My Ďlogicí is now that if it needs to rare metals to work, itís not the right size. Maybe thatís a poor way to look at it on my part tho. Thanks for the thought
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 10, 2020, 02:28:27 PM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, itís got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32Ē, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14Ē wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
[close]

Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
[close]

I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but itís a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25Ē trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5Ē.
Next time.
[close]
try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g
[close]

I agree, to an extent. My Ďlogicí is now that if it needs to rare metals to work, itís not the right size. Maybe thatís a poor way to look at it on my part tho. Thanks for the thought

Thats not a good way to look at it... some people prefer bigger trucks over smaller ones in every way minus the fact that they're heavier. Getting hollows/titaniums would be a much better solution than sizing down and sticking with raws.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: legion on May 10, 2020, 03:18:43 PM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, itís got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32Ē, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14Ē wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
[close]

Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
[close]

I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but itís a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25Ē trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5Ē.
Next time.
[close]
try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g
[close]

I agree, to an extent. My Ďlogicí is now that if it needs to rare metals to work, itís not the right size. Maybe thatís a poor way to look at it on my part tho. Thanks for the thought
[close]

Thats not a good way to look at it... some people prefer bigger trucks over smaller ones in every way minus the fact that they're heavier. Getting hollows/titaniums would be a much better solution than sizing down and sticking with raws.
Being extra geeky here..
Anyone notice a change in center of gravity height hollow/Ti axles? Or different size/width wheels?
Heavier axles/wheels would move the CoG down, light would move it up.
Things wanna rotate around their CoG, so lower CoG would make a kickflip rotate more on a centerline going thru both axles.
Higher CoG and the board would wanna rotate more on a line that goes thru the deck.
Can anyone feel that?
I'd experiment more my im just working on getting back flip tricks..

I've noticed it on nollie fs shuvs tho. I do lil ones as a turn around trick, low, probably couldn't get up a curb.
With heavy wheels they feel more natural and I can catch flat. Also didn't mess up impossibles like I thought it would, almost seemed like they spun better. Maybe it's the tension thing?
Lighter wheels make me rocket that trick and I land manny or full on taildrag. I've tried it with the same diameter wheels and 2mm smaller. Maybe it's just me?


How are those Array washers working out for you guys?
Are there about the same thickness as cup washers?
I'm more curious about the top washer. Does the bushing hole get chewed up less? Anyone tried just the top washer?
Do Ventures hangers rub the cup washer?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 10, 2020, 04:26:47 PM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, itís got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32Ē, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14Ē wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
[close]

Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
[close]

I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but itís a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25Ē trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5Ē.
Next time.
[close]
try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g
[close]

I agree, to an extent. My Ďlogicí is now that if it needs to rare metals to work, itís not the right size. Maybe thatís a poor way to look at it on my part tho. Thanks for the thought
[close]

Thats not a good way to look at it... some people prefer bigger trucks over smaller ones in every way minus the fact that they're heavier. Getting hollows/titaniums would be a much better solution than sizing down and sticking with raws.
[close]
Being extra geeky here..
Anyone notice a change in center of gravity height hollow/Ti axles? Or different size/width wheels?
Heavier axles/wheels would move the CoG down, light would move it up.
Things wanna rotate around their CoG, so lower CoG would make a kickflip rotate more on a centerline going thru both axles.
Higher CoG and the board would wanna rotate more on a line that goes thru the deck.
Can anyone feel that?
I'd experiment more my im just working on getting back flip tricks..

I've noticed it on nollie fs shuvs tho. I do lil ones as a turn around trick, low, probably couldn't get up a curb.
With heavy wheels they feel more natural and I can catch flat. Also didn't mess up impossibles like I thought it would, almost seemed like they spun better. Maybe it's the tension thing?
Lighter wheels make me rocket that trick and I land manny or full on taildrag. I've tried it with the same diameter wheels and 2mm smaller. Maybe it's just me?


How are those Array washers working out for you guys?
Are there about the same thickness as cup washers?
I'm more curious about the top washer. Does the bushing hole get chewed up less? Anyone tried just the top washer?
Do Ventures hangers rub the cup washer?

I mean its possible I guess but this sounds a bit too crazy to me its probably 99.99% in your head.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 10, 2020, 04:39:09 PM
A wise sage once told me ďdonít think about it so much, let the body do the skatinĒ


Always remind myself that when setting up new shit ;)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 10, 2020, 04:46:09 PM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, itís got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32Ē, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14Ē wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
[close]

Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
[close]

I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but itís a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25Ē trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5Ē.
Next time.
[close]
try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g
[close]

I agree, to an extent. My Ďlogicí is now that if it needs to rare metals to work, itís not the right size. Maybe thatís a poor way to look at it on my part tho. Thanks for the thought
[close]

Thats not a good way to look at it... some people prefer bigger trucks over smaller ones in every way minus the fact that they're heavier. Getting hollows/titaniums would be a much better solution than sizing down and sticking with raws.
[close]
Being extra geeky here..
Anyone notice a change in center of gravity height hollow/Ti axles? Or different size/width wheels?
Heavier axles/wheels would move the CoG down, light would move it up.
Things wanna rotate around their CoG, so lower CoG would make a kickflip rotate more on a centerline going thru both axles.
Higher CoG and the board would wanna rotate more on a line that goes thru the deck.
Can anyone feel that?
I'd experiment more my im just working on getting back flip tricks..

I've noticed it on nollie fs shuvs tho. I do lil ones as a turn around trick, low, probably couldn't get up a curb.
With heavy wheels they feel more natural and I can catch flat. Also didn't mess up impossibles like I thought it would, almost seemed like they spun better. Maybe it's the tension thing?
Lighter wheels make me rocket that trick and I land manny or full on taildrag. I've tried it with the same diameter wheels and 2mm smaller. Maybe it's just me?


How are those Array washers working out for you guys?
Are there about the same thickness as cup washers?
I'm more curious about the top washer. Does the bushing hole get chewed up less? Anyone tried just the top washer?
Do Ventures hangers rub the cup washer?
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I mean its possible I guess but this sounds a bit too crazy to me its probably 99.99% in your head.

I blacked out reading the theory, but I can say that I know more than a few that prefer more heft, for certain set ups. Not sure if thatís what you are saying. A board can feel too light for sure.


As to the lighter, but bigger trucks. Iím sure I am wrong. Iíve skated hollow 169s, regular 169s (just as an example). They were just too big either way. I donít know what messes more with my flips/rotations: weight or width.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on May 10, 2020, 04:51:04 PM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, itís got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32Ē, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14Ē wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
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Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.

My 8.25 DOA is 14wb
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: palelight on May 10, 2020, 05:30:37 PM
My 8.25 DOA is 14wb

Really? All the 8.25's and 8.3's I've had from them are 14.25"wb.
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Post by: off on May 10, 2020, 06:03:52 PM
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Really? All the 8.25's and 8.3's I've had from them are 14.25"wb.
yeah im calling bullshit on that
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 10, 2020, 07:35:53 PM
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My 8.25 DOA is 14wb
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Really? All the 8.25's and 8.3's I've had from them are 14.25"wb.
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yeah im calling bullshit on that

My square DOA 8.25 is just a hair under 14.25 (more like a 14.2). Nowhere near 14"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: YungJugg on May 10, 2020, 08:34:14 PM
yaíll right I was tripping with my measurements, apologies
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 13, 2020, 03:59:48 PM
What I thought was a blemish from the rim the cup washer turned out to be a rainbow of Doom crack from one side of the yoke to the other.

I had a public meltdown. Some lady broke the 6 foot law on me. Tried to get me to take an ambulance ride.

I can't take this stress rn.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 13, 2020, 05:43:27 PM
What I thought was a blemish from the rim the cup washer turned out to be a rainbow of Doom crack from one side of the yoke to the other.

I had a public meltdown. Some lady broke the 6 foot law on me. Tried to get me to take an ambulance ride.

I can't take this stress rn.

Put your 44s back on mon!


Sorry shit is stressful
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Skart on May 13, 2020, 06:35:46 PM
Mannn sorry Flea
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on May 13, 2020, 08:17:48 PM
does anyone know where to find venture v hollows in 5.2 high? I can find literally every version of the 5.2 except those.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BMCsteve on May 13, 2020, 09:27:25 PM
does anyone know where to find venture v hollows in 5.2 high? I can find literally every version of the 5.2 except those.

Big stock of ventures here http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/search.cfm
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on May 13, 2020, 09:48:14 PM
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does anyone know where to find venture v hollows in 5.2 high? I can find literally every version of the 5.2 except those.
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Big stock of ventures here http://www.blacklistboardshop.com/search.cfm

holy shit! thank you Steve.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: PeskOne on May 14, 2020, 03:22:45 AM
Thanks for all the answers about 8.25 deck 14WB. I ended up ordering a Krooked 8.12 with a 14 WB. What do you guys think about Krooked boards? This is my first Krooked, one of my best boards were a Real board. Unfortunately it broke after a bs 180 flat. But the time I had on the board was like heaven.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 14, 2020, 03:56:11 AM
Thanks for all the answers about 8.25 deck 14WB. I ended up ordering a Krooked 8.12 with a 14 WB. What do you guys think about Krooked boards? This is my first Krooked, one of my best boards were a Real board. Unfortunately it broke after a bs 180 flat. But the time I had on the board was like heaven.
I think you would be hard pressed to find someone to say anything bad about any dlx brands quality.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Buck Stefano on May 14, 2020, 08:06:44 AM
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, itís got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32Ē, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14Ē wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
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Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
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I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but itís a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25Ē trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5Ē.
Next time.
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try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g
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I agree, to an extent. My Ďlogicí is now that if it needs to rare metals to work, itís not the right size. Maybe thatís a poor way to look at it on my part tho. Thanks for the thought
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Thats not a good way to look at it... some people prefer bigger trucks over smaller ones in every way minus the fact that they're heavier. Getting hollows/titaniums would be a much better solution than sizing down and sticking with raws.
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Being extra geeky here..
Anyone notice a change in center of gravity height hollow/Ti axles? Or different size/width wheels?
Heavier axles/wheels would move the CoG down, light would move it up.
Things wanna rotate around their CoG, so lower CoG would make a kickflip rotate more on a centerline going thru both axles.
Higher CoG and the board would wanna rotate more on a line that goes thru the deck.
Can anyone feel that?
I'd experiment more my im just working on getting back flip tricks..

I've noticed it on nollie fs shuvs tho. I do lil ones as a turn around trick, low, probably couldn't get up a curb.
With heavy wheels they feel more natural and I can catch flat. Also didn't mess up impossibles like I thought it would, almost seemed like they spun better. Maybe it's the tension thing?
Lighter wheels make me rocket that trick and I land manny or full on taildrag. I've tried it with the same diameter wheels and 2mm smaller. Maybe it's just me?


How are those Array washers working out for you guys?
Are there about the same thickness as cup washers?
I'm more curious about the top washer. Does the bushing hole get chewed up less? Anyone tried just the top washer?
Do Ventures hangers rub the cup washer?

I agree that the axis of rotation will be wherever the most weight is on your set up. Moreover, I think it holds that the higher off the ground, the higher the center of gravity, the closer to the ground the lower.

If you jump between truck and wheel heights, youíre messing with the angle your board makes when you pop the tail. Which in turn is confusing the timing youve developed in your muscle memory for performing tricks.

The easiest way to combat this, ive found (at least for maintaining tricks across diff set ups and perhaps can help you do your tricks the same way across diff set ups) is to always have your front foot just behind the front axle and your back foot as close to the tip of the tail as possible, this foot placement gives you balanced leverage on any combo of trucks, decks, wheels, etc. when performing tricks.

If you try this stance on your board and it feels unstable or gross, chances are you dont have the optimal mix of dimensions across your set up for your given body type. All that being said, itís much easier to just stick with whatever feels comfortable.

The skateboard is ultimately a tool you manipulate. Youre the one doing the tricks and your anatomy and bio mechanics arent that variable, so all your doing when you change your set up, is developing your musclesí understanding of how different set ups (re: diff levers) can be manipulated by your body.

Def got on a diff tangent, thatís enough of the grand unified theory of skateboarding.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wafools on May 14, 2020, 11:56:13 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/48PLT1P/BADB8-C73-70-AB-4108-A4-EE-5-F7924-ACD0-EB.png) (https://ibb.co/gSz8T4z)

As seen on Mike Andersonís insta.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wafools on May 14, 2020, 11:57:20 AM
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Thanks for all the answers about 8.25 deck 14WB. I ended up ordering a Krooked 8.12 with a 14 WB. What do you guys think about Krooked boards? This is my first Krooked, one of my best boards were a Real board. Unfortunately it broke after a bs 180 flat. But the time I had on the board was like heaven.
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I think you would be hard pressed to find someone to say anything bad about any dlx brands quality.

True. I have been skating dlx boards for maybe 10 years and never had any problems with them.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
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Skated some 5.8s the last few days. Like them, probably a bit too beast for me, but fun.

Anyone have a recommendation on deck brands/shapes for these trucks? I have a FA sage board from a bit back, itís got a 14.12 wb, and is under 32Ē, both of those numbers have worked well for in the past. Steep nose and I could not skate this thing. Felt wild.
Next day switched everything out and set it up an 8.125 with 14Ē wb and same trucks and the pop was great. Board is more mellow, and really old.
Anyways, if anyone has a recommendation for big ventures, board wise, lemme know.
Thanks
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i'm skating my 5.8ti's on a Quasi 8.5, 32.125 long & 14.25WB. also on 52mm conical fulls for what its worth, and i love everything about the feel of the setup.  it did take me a little getting used to, but i'm talking like 1 session.  after realizing where i needed to make certain adjustments, this is definitely my preferred ride for the moment
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Maybe too big for you? I ride 5,6 on 8.125 and fucking love them, got those spitfire F4 tablets too. Before I had the lock-ins. They are wider and a bit heavier. But don't let me tell you, you skate to big. Because I see people skate super wide and I'm like how the hell. I would definitely go up to 8.25 but I want 14 wheelbase, that's the most important thing for me, and it's hard to find 14 WB on 8.25.
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I think you are correct, re: too big. I want to ride an adult sized skateboard, but itís a serious struggle.
I should have gotten 8.25Ē trucks, and used those on boards 8-8.5Ē.
Next time.
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try the lighter versions of bigger trucks, that might help. i ride 151s but the hollow light version makes it manageable at around 330g
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I agree, to an extent. My Ďlogicí is now that if it needs to rare metals to work, itís not the right size. Maybe thatís a poor way to look at it on my part tho. Thanks for the thought
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Thats not a good way to look at it... some people prefer bigger trucks over smaller ones in every way minus the fact that they're heavier. Getting hollows/titaniums would be a much better solution than sizing down and sticking with raws.
[close]
Being extra geeky here..
Anyone notice a change in center of gravity height hollow/Ti axles? Or different size/width wheels?
Heavier axles/wheels would move the CoG down, light would move it up.
Things wanna rotate around their CoG, so lower CoG would make a kickflip rotate more on a centerline going thru both axles.
Higher CoG and the board would wanna rotate more on a line that goes thru the deck.
Can anyone feel that?
I'd experiment more my im just working on getting back flip tricks..

I've noticed it on nollie fs shuvs tho. I do lil ones as a turn around trick, low, probably couldn't get up a curb.
With heavy wheels they feel more natural and I can catch flat. Also didn't mess up impossibles like I thought it would, almost seemed like they spun better. Maybe it's the tension thing?
Lighter wheels make me rocket that trick and I land manny or full on taildrag. I've tried it with the same diameter wheels and 2mm smaller. Maybe it's just me?


How are those Array washers working out for you guys?
Are there about the same thickness as cup washers?
I'm more curious about the top washer. Does the bushing hole get chewed up less? Anyone tried just the top washer?
Do Ventures hangers rub the cup washer?
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I agree that the axis of rotation will be wherever the most weight is on your set up. Moreover, I think it holds that the higher off the ground, the higher the center of gravity, the closer to the ground the lower.

If you jump between truck and wheel heights, youíre messing with the angle your board makes when you pop the tail. Which in turn is confusing the timing youve developed in your muscle memory for performing tricks.

The easiest way to combat this, ive found (at least for maintaining tricks across diff set ups and perhaps can help you do your tricks the same way across diff set ups) is to always have your front foot just behind the front axle and your back foot as close to the tip of the tail as possible, this foot placement gives you balanced leverage on any combo of trucks, decks, wheels, etc. when performing tricks.

If you try this stance on your board and it feels unstable or gross, chances are you dont have the optimal mix of dimensions across your set up for your given body type. All that being said, itís much easier to just stick with whatever feels comfortable.

The skateboard is ultimately a tool you manipulate. Youre the one doing the tricks and your anatomy and bio mechanics arent that variable, so all your doing when you change your set up, is developing your musclesí understanding of how different set ups (re: diff levers) can be manipulated by your body.

Def got on a diff tangent, thatís enough of the grand unified theory of skateboarding.

This is definitely not universal. Over the years as I've skated many different setups with varying truck/board/wheel combos I've found popping with my back foot in the pocket for flatground tricks, though switch and ledge tricks my popping foot is still on the tip-ish.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on May 14, 2020, 01:25:42 PM
Tactics have the new Thrasher models in stock, ordered a pair yesterday
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on May 14, 2020, 06:32:09 PM
Tactics have the new Thrasher models in stock, ordered a pair yesterday

you get yellow baseplates, or all polished?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on May 14, 2020, 09:00:28 PM
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Tactics have the new Thrasher models in stock, ordered a pair yesterday
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you get yellow baseplates, or all polished?

I grabbed the all polished 5.8's
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Davethedavedave on May 14, 2020, 10:57:41 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on May 15, 2020, 09:07:23 AM
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My 8.25 DOA is 14wb
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Really? All the 8.25's and 8.3's I've had from them are 14.25"wb.
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yeah im calling bullshit on that
Are you all riding Ventures on your DOA decks? I have the square 8.25 and can't decide if I like it better on Indy's (shorter wheelbase) or Thunders (longer wheelbase).  I rode ventures years ago, so nostalgia has me interested in jumping back in. As to the DOA though, I am curious to know how it feels with Ventures, which would push our the wheelbase even more than Thunders.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 15, 2020, 11:20:39 AM
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My 8.25 DOA is 14wb
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Really? All the 8.25's and 8.3's I've had from them are 14.25"wb.
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yeah im calling bullshit on that
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Are you all riding Ventures on your DOA decks? I have the square 8.25 and can't decide if I like it better on Indy's (shorter wheelbase) or Thunders (longer wheelbase).  I rode ventures years ago, so nostalgia has me interested in jumping back in. As to the DOA though, I am curious to know how it feels with Ventures, which would push our the wheelbase even more than Thunders.

I tried them out on the square 8.25 DOA, WB was fine (but I'm used to that as I don't mind WB that are in the 14.3+ range. The thing that felt just a little off but I got used to it, was the pop with the short steep tail (compared to the long mellow tail on the primitive decks I was riding the ventures on). The more I ride the ventures on different decks the more I feel they work best (for me) on 2 finger flat/long tails (over 6.5")/mellow kicks.

Or, I just like steep short tails with indys/ACE more as I have more pop power than finesse.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: MxsDx on May 15, 2020, 11:57:57 AM
I tried them out on the square 8.25 DOA, WB was fine (but I'm used to that as I don't mind WB that are in the 14.3+ range. The thing that felt just a little off but I got used to it, was the pop with the short steep tail (compared to the long mellow tail on the primitive decks I was riding the ventures on). The more I ride the ventures on different decks the more I feel they work best (for me) on 2 finger flat/long tails (over 6.5")/mellow kicks.

Or, I just like steep short tails with indys/ACE more as I have more pop power than finesse.
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Thanks for the response. I feel like I run around in circles with all the gear madness, but it is fun to tinker with different set-ups, especially while "working" from home. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 15, 2020, 07:34:06 PM
I tried them out on the square 8.25 DOA, WB was fine (but I'm used to that as I don't mind WB that are in the 14.3+ range. The thing that felt just a little off but I got used to it, was the pop with the short steep tail (compared to the long mellow tail on the primitive decks I was riding the ventures on). The more I ride the ventures on different decks the more I feel they work best (for me) on 2 finger flat/long tails (over 6.5")/mellow kicks.

Or, I just like steep short tails with indys/ACE more as I have more pop power than finesse.

Thanks for the response. I feel like I run around in circles with all the gear madness, but it is fun to tinker with different set-ups, especially while "working" from home.
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Screwed around a bit today and put together a board with steep kicks (impact light) on a 14.25 WB and Theeves (much tighter WB than the Ventures but around the same height) + 52mm wheels.

After skating Ventures on mellow kicks (and steep) and short WBs with 52s stepping to the other end of the spectrum felt much better, as in right away much better...I didn't have to work for my pop as much.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sgm06sti on May 18, 2020, 03:20:48 AM
Could anyone tell me if the graphics on these 5.25 V-Hollow light lo are the current outgoing one ? All the pictures I see of these trucks are from 2017. Thanks !

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-trucks-v-hollow-lights-polished-low-5-25-truck-silver_p77613?cPath=44&brand_id=98
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on May 18, 2020, 04:43:08 AM
Could anyone tell me if the graphics on these 5.25 V-Hollow light lo are the current outgoing one ? All the pictures I see of these trucks are from 2017. Thanks !

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-trucks-v-hollow-lights-polished-low-5-25-truck-silver_p77613?cPath=44&brand_id=98

thatís what they used to look like, with the gold washers and stuff. now theyíre all silver, with a small red/blue sticker on both hangers, no graphic. those ventures on that website might be old stock though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sgm06sti on May 18, 2020, 04:48:10 AM
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Could anyone tell me if the graphics on these 5.25 V-Hollow light lo are the current outgoing one ? All the pictures I see of these trucks are from 2017. Thanks !

https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/venture-trucks-v-hollow-lights-polished-low-5-25-truck-silver_p77613?cPath=44&brand_id=98
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thatís what they used to look like, with the gold washers and stuff. now theyíre all silver, with a small red/blue sticker on both hangers, no graphic. those ventures on that website might be old stock though.

Yeah I kinda figured that was no longer the current look. I am also not sure if the website image is out of date or if that is the truck they shipped me. Should have it Thursday.

Next question ha beside the look did anything else change year to year ?

Thanks !
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on May 18, 2020, 07:13:55 AM
Certain those arenít Street Corner. Iíve had 3 sets of the 5.2 V-Hollow Hiís including that graphic now phased out and they are all identical. Plus I donít think DLX would sell the apparently fairly shite previous versions on their own site?

Iím lucky I missed a few years so went straight from the mid 90ís to the new ones avoiding the giant red ďVĒ both feel good but the new ones are massively more precise feeling and all round better put together IMO.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: drinny on May 18, 2020, 07:18:16 AM
I think the only change Iíve noticed in the last couple of years is the hanger size is now stamped just behind the pivot and the yoke hole to ID all the new widths (5.2H, 6.1 etc)
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sgm06sti on May 18, 2020, 07:26:35 AM
Cool Cool. Thanks all just figured I would ask :). Coming from the world of cars and computers companies are always changing little things year to year.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on May 18, 2020, 02:58:53 PM
Anyone know what the durometer is for the purple bushings Venture usually has in some of their trucks?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Kneesles on May 18, 2020, 03:11:30 PM
Anyone know what the durometer is for the purple bushings Venture usually has in some of their trucks?
From what i have gathered the purples are 97a and the greens are 94a, at least that's what the dlx supercush bushings are.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 18, 2020, 03:43:17 PM
Anyone know what the durometer is for the purple bushings Venture usually has in some of their trucks?

if you are talking stock purples then they should be 90a like most brands. However the aftermarket purps are 97a from DLX supercush as stated above. Aftermarket DLX supercush 90a will be Orange
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on May 18, 2020, 04:32:20 PM
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Anyone know what the durometer is for the purple bushings Venture usually has in some of their trucks?
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if you are talking stock purples then they should be 90a like most brands. However the aftermarket purps are 97a from DLX supercush as stated above. Aftermarket DLX supercush 90a will be Orange

Ya theyre def not 98a cuz they feel super soft, thx guys
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 19, 2020, 12:01:03 PM
Threw my Ti/Forged on a 14.44 WB for the hell of it....didn't hate it, thought I would..it's a Creature, pretty flat concave (stated as medium) kicks are abrupt AFTER the fingers of flat, so with the Ventures it's a bit odd....from the bolt holes it's about two fingers of flat...from the end of the baseplate (underside/roadside) to the tail kick it's less than a fingers width; basically the kick starts right at the baseplate.

I'm still trying to find out what the best pairing deck-wise is: steep/flat, long tail, short tail, etc., for power specifically...madness

Also, the ACE bushing (low top, reg bottom)/Riptide combo is still the best I've found for my turning preferences. They're really nice and swevrey (not twitchy or carvey). I'm bouncing between these with small wheels med/mellow kicks and Tensor ATGs with bigger wheels and steeper kicks because why not.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 19, 2020, 03:59:00 PM
Threw my Ti/Forged on a 14.44 WB for the hell of it....didn't hate it, thought I would..it's a Creature, pretty flat concave (stated as medium) kicks are abrupt AFTER the fingers of flat, so with the Ventures it's a bit odd....from the bolt holes it's about two fingers of flat...from the end of the baseplate (underside/roadside) to the tail kick it's less than a fingers width; basically the kick starts right at the baseplate.

I'm still trying to find out what the best pairing deck-wise is: steep/flat, long tail, short tail, etc., for power specifically...madness

Also, the ACE bushing (low top, reg bottom)/Riptide combo is still the best I've found for my turning preferences. They're really nice and swevrey (not twitchy or carvey). I'm bouncing between these with small wheels med/mellow kicks and Tensor ATGs with bigger wheels and steeper kicks because why not.

I've personally settled on 14.25-14.38 wb on venture forged plates. Its comfortable for me and minus one or two specific scenarios it doesn't make much of a difference. Never paid too much attention to kick length or steepness/flatness, kinda just ballpark infer the kicks from the length and wheelbase measurements and hope that its not too far from medium, which I think works best for me, definitely notice it a bit when its too steep or flat.

That Ace bushings + riptide + the flat washer with stem combo is great. I'm really liking it on my setup, no squeak, nice snap to center and a smooth predictable turn. I think a little bit turnier than stock. I'm worried about the bushings bulging though so I've been taking the kingpin nut off after skating to release the tension and just tightening before I go out to skate and a few weeks in they've held up great.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 19, 2020, 04:33:55 PM
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Threw my Ti/Forged on a 14.44 WB for the hell of it....didn't hate it, thought I would..it's a Creature, pretty flat concave (stated as medium) kicks are abrupt AFTER the fingers of flat, so with the Ventures it's a bit odd....from the bolt holes it's about two fingers of flat...from the end of the baseplate (underside/roadside) to the tail kick it's less than a fingers width; basically the kick starts right at the baseplate.

I'm still trying to find out what the best pairing deck-wise is: steep/flat, long tail, short tail, etc., for power specifically...madness

Also, the ACE bushing (low top, reg bottom)/Riptide combo is still the best I've found for my turning preferences. They're really nice and swevrey (not twitchy or carvey). I'm bouncing between these with small wheels med/mellow kicks and Tensor ATGs with bigger wheels and steeper kicks because why not.
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I've personally settled on 14.25-14.38 wb on venture forged plates. Its comfortable for me and minus one or two specific scenarios it doesn't make much of a difference. Never paid too much attention to kick length or steepness/flatness, kinda just ballpark infer the kicks from the length and wheelbase measurements and hope that its not too far from medium, which I think works best for me, definitely notice it a bit when its too steep or flat.

That Ace bushings + riptide + the flat washer with stem combo is great. I'm really liking it on my setup, no squeak, nice snap to center and a smooth predictable turn. I think a little bit turnier than stock. I'm worried about the bushings bulging though so I've been taking the kingpin nut off after skating to release the tension and just tightening before I go out to skate and a few weeks in they've held up great.

Forgot to mention the stem washers, the combo is really snappy. Are yo using low/ high Ace combo? I'm using those excessive to kingpin nuts and it saves a few threads of bulge...you could always just shave down the top bushings more?

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 19, 2020, 04:42:01 PM
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Threw my Ti/Forged on a 14.44 WB for the hell of it....didn't hate it, thought I would..it's a Creature, pretty flat concave (stated as medium) kicks are abrupt AFTER the fingers of flat, so with the Ventures it's a bit odd....from the bolt holes it's about two fingers of flat...from the end of the baseplate (underside/roadside) to the tail kick it's less than a fingers width; basically the kick starts right at the baseplate.

I'm still trying to find out what the best pairing deck-wise is: steep/flat, long tail, short tail, etc., for power specifically...madness

Also, the ACE bushing (low top, reg bottom)/Riptide combo is still the best I've found for my turning preferences. They're really nice and swevrey (not twitchy or carvey). I'm bouncing between these with small wheels med/mellow kicks and Tensor ATGs with bigger wheels and steeper kicks because why not.
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I've personally settled on 14.25-14.38 wb on venture forged plates. Its comfortable for me and minus one or two specific scenarios it doesn't make much of a difference. Never paid too much attention to kick length or steepness/flatness, kinda just ballpark infer the kicks from the length and wheelbase measurements and hope that its not too far from medium, which I think works best for me, definitely notice it a bit when its too steep or flat.

That Ace bushings + riptide + the flat washer with stem combo is great. I'm really liking it on my setup, no squeak, nice snap to center and a smooth predictable turn. I think a little bit turnier than stock. I'm worried about the bushings bulging though so I've been taking the kingpin nut off after skating to release the tension and just tightening before I go out to skate and a few weeks in they've held up great.
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Forgot to mention the stem washers, the combo is really snappy. Are yo using low/ high Ace combo? I'm using those excessive to kingpin nuts and it saves a few threads of bulge...you could always just shave down the top bushings more?

Yeah the low/high combo. I could shave the top bushing more I guess, but I really like the tightness with the stock kingpin nut about flush with the current combo. I don't think it actually would bulge out badly like bones bushing sometimes do but its just a safety precaution. If the bottom bushing goes to shit I'm going to try the low bottoms, seems like they also fit fine.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 19, 2020, 05:20:52 PM
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Threw my Ti/Forged on a 14.44 WB for the hell of it....didn't hate it, thought I would..it's a Creature, pretty flat concave (stated as medium) kicks are abrupt AFTER the fingers of flat, so with the Ventures it's a bit odd....from the bolt holes it's about two fingers of flat...from the end of the baseplate (underside/roadside) to the tail kick it's less than a fingers width; basically the kick starts right at the baseplate.

I'm still trying to find out what the best pairing deck-wise is: steep/flat, long tail, short tail, etc., for power specifically...madness

Also, the ACE bushing (low top, reg bottom)/Riptide combo is still the best I've found for my turning preferences. They're really nice and swevrey (not twitchy or carvey). I'm bouncing between these with small wheels med/mellow kicks and Tensor ATGs with bigger wheels and steeper kicks because why not.
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I've personally settled on 14.25-14.38 wb on venture forged plates. Its comfortable for me and minus one or two specific scenarios it doesn't make much of a difference. Never paid too much attention to kick length or steepness/flatness, kinda just ballpark infer the kicks from the length and wheelbase measurements and hope that its not too far from medium, which I think works best for me, definitely notice it a bit when its too steep or flat.

That Ace bushings + riptide + the flat washer with stem combo is great. I'm really liking it on my setup, no squeak, nice snap to center and a smooth predictable turn. I think a little bit turnier than stock. I'm worried about the bushings bulging though so I've been taking the kingpin nut off after skating to release the tension and just tightening before I go out to skate and a few weeks in they've held up great.
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Forgot to mention the stem washers, the combo is really snappy. Are yo using low/ high Ace combo? I'm using those excessive to kingpin nuts and it saves a few threads of bulge...you could always just shave down the top bushings more?
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Yeah the low/high combo. I could shave the top bushing more I guess, but I really like the tightness with the stock kingpin nut about flush with the current combo. I don't think it actually would bulge out badly like bones bushing sometimes do but its just a safety precaution. If the bottom bushing goes to shit I'm going to try the low bottoms, seems like they also fit fine.

I popped the low bottoms in 'just to see'  and yeah, it didn't seem like it affected anything at all, no weird angles, odd because it's a pretty significant height difference.

What size wheels are you running? I'm 51s heading into 50mm territory.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Noble Experiment on May 19, 2020, 11:50:02 PM
Just wanted to comment real quick that I started skating my set of venture 5.8s months ago and they keep getting better with age. They feel all surfy now but with that great venture stability at the same time.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 20, 2020, 12:01:15 AM
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Threw my Ti/Forged on a 14.44 WB for the hell of it....didn't hate it, thought I would..it's a Creature, pretty flat concave (stated as medium) kicks are abrupt AFTER the fingers of flat, so with the Ventures it's a bit odd....from the bolt holes it's about two fingers of flat...from the end of the baseplate (underside/roadside) to the tail kick it's less than a fingers width; basically the kick starts right at the baseplate.

I'm still trying to find out what the best pairing deck-wise is: steep/flat, long tail, short tail, etc., for power specifically...madness

Also, the ACE bushing (low top, reg bottom)/Riptide combo is still the best I've found for my turning preferences. They're really nice and swevrey (not twitchy or carvey). I'm bouncing between these with small wheels med/mellow kicks and Tensor ATGs with bigger wheels and steeper kicks because why not.
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I've personally settled on 14.25-14.38 wb on venture forged plates. Its comfortable for me and minus one or two specific scenarios it doesn't make much of a difference. Never paid too much attention to kick length or steepness/flatness, kinda just ballpark infer the kicks from the length and wheelbase measurements and hope that its not too far from medium, which I think works best for me, definitely notice it a bit when its too steep or flat.

That Ace bushings + riptide + the flat washer with stem combo is great. I'm really liking it on my setup, no squeak, nice snap to center and a smooth predictable turn. I think a little bit turnier than stock. I'm worried about the bushings bulging though so I've been taking the kingpin nut off after skating to release the tension and just tightening before I go out to skate and a few weeks in they've held up great.
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Forgot to mention the stem washers, the combo is really snappy. Are yo using low/ high Ace combo? I'm using those excessive to kingpin nuts and it saves a few threads of bulge...you could always just shave down the top bushings more?
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Yeah the low/high combo. I could shave the top bushing more I guess, but I really like the tightness with the stock kingpin nut about flush with the current combo. I don't think it actually would bulge out badly like bones bushing sometimes do but its just a safety precaution. If the bottom bushing goes to shit I'm going to try the low bottoms, seems like they also fit fine.
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I popped the low bottoms in 'just to see'  and yeah, it didn't seem like it affected anything at all, no weird angles, odd because it's a pretty significant height difference.

What size wheels are you running? I'm 51s heading into 50mm territory.

54 99 radial slims. Yeah really strange, the low and normal bottoms are very different in size but both fit in there perfectly.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jamersonbass on May 20, 2020, 05:04:41 AM
Just wanted to comment real quick that I started skating my set of venture 5.8s months ago and they keep getting better with age. They feel all surfy now but with that great venture stability at the same time.

This has been happening on my 6.1's the last few weeks.  Super good feeling.  Hasn't caught up to my 5.6's yet, but I wasn't feeling those on my 8.25 deck, so I just got a set of 5.8's yesterday and hoping they work out better for my smaller setup.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on May 20, 2020, 06:14:23 AM
Just wanted to comment real quick that I started skating my set of venture 5.8s months ago and they keep getting better with age. They feel all surfy now but with that great venture stability at the same time.
I agree 100 percent. I added flat washers and I now have no need for ever trying any other truck.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on May 20, 2020, 06:15:28 AM
Would 5.8 be a bit too big for a 8.125 deck? Or would a 5.6 be a bit better.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: arrbee on May 20, 2020, 06:24:07 AM
Would 5.8 be a bit too big for a 8.125 deck? Or would a 5.6 be a bit better.

Personally I would do the 5.6
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 20, 2020, 09:39:53 AM
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Personally I would do the 5.6
I agree while you could do the 5.8 I think itís a hair too long and the 5.6 would be perfect and thatís my current setup now, 8.1 with 5.6
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 20, 2020, 10:06:54 AM
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Personally I would do the 5.6

I just came off an 8.125 with 5.6s, works great. 5.8 would look/feel too wide for my taste, diminishing the purpose of a 8.125"
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 20, 2020, 04:39:04 PM
Anyone here on the tiís? Thought about getting a set for the hangars to lighten it up but keep the cast plates of the raws. How are you liking them?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 20, 2020, 04:53:49 PM
Anyone here on the tiís? Thought about getting a set for the hangars to lighten it up but keep the cast plates of the raws. How are you liking them?

I've had tis, they were great. Noticeably lighter.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Ok on May 20, 2020, 07:12:00 PM
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Personally I would do the 5.6
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I just came off an 8.125 with 5.6s, works great. 5.8 would look/feel too wide for my taste, diminishing the purpose of a 8.125"

Was just skating 8.126 w/5.8, mainly for wb experimentation. Can confirm that it works, but itís not ideal route imo. Plenty of people shred on a similar ratio, and if itís what you have you shouldnít let it hold you back, but for me Iíd rather have the narrower trucks for more flip.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 20, 2020, 10:18:17 PM
Would 5.8 be a bit too big for a 8.125 deck? Or would a 5.6 be a bit better.

5.6, riding 5.8 on a Real 8.18 and while the width is managable, the weight feels a little off.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on May 21, 2020, 06:47:40 AM
Anyone here on the tiís? Thought about getting a set for the hangars to lighten it up but keep the cast plates of the raws. How are you liking them?

Got the 5.2s Ti Hi, now broken in, really like them. Only thing I dont like is the golden baseplate, which isn't a deal breaker for you...
Setup feels sooo light.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Murge on May 21, 2020, 07:48:13 AM
Has anyone noticed a huge difference between cast and forged base plates  as far as the wheel base push?  I know thereís a difference but is it bad  or noticeable? Pros cons?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 21, 2020, 12:18:15 PM
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Got the 5.2s Ti Hi, now broken in, really like them. Only thing I dont like is the golden baseplate, which isn't a deal breaker for you...
Setup feels sooo light.
Mannnn, while I donít want to get another crook groove started I do want to get some weight off my current trucks
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 21, 2020, 04:22:47 PM
Anyone here on the tiís? Thought about getting a set for the hangars to lighten it up but keep the cast plates of the raws. How are you liking them?
If you can find some hollows cheaper than tits I would go that route. However if you splurge on Tits they are worth it IMO, I am riding a 5.6 Tit hanger with cast plates from another set as my main and I swear by it. I did a weighing on my truck combos (per truck) so maybe I can help break some of this down.

5.2 titanium hanger with forged plates - 308g
5.2 raw hanger with cast plates - 362g
5.2 raw hanger with forged plates - 342g
5.6 Titanium hanger with cast plates - 336g
5.6 raw hanger with cast plates - 371g
5.6 titanium hanger with forged plates - 315g
5.8 raw hanger with cast plates - 376g

I donít have each versions of these trucks that would be madness lol I just swapped hangers and plates to get weight measurements. But yeah at 335-336 per truck with the titanium hanger and cast plate itís a sick combo for me street skating. I like more weight on trucks and whip out the 5.8 for hills and tranny however.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 21, 2020, 06:09:18 PM
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If you can find some hollows cheaper than tits I would go that route. However if you splurge on Tits they are worth it IMO, I am riding a 5.6 Tit hanger with cast plates from another set as my main and I swear by it. I did a weighing on my truck combos (per truck) so maybe I can help break some of this down.

5.2 titanium hanger with forged plates - 308g
5.2 raw hanger with cast plates - 362g
5.2 raw hanger with forged plates - 342g
5.6 Titanium hanger with cast plates - 336g
5.6 raw hanger with cast plates - 371g
5.6 titanium hanger with forged plates - 315g
5.8 raw hanger with cast plates - 376g

I donít have each versions of these trucks that would be madness lol I just swapped hangers and plates to get weight measurements. But yeah at 335-336 per truck with the titanium hanger and cast plate itís a sick combo for me street skating. I like more weight on trucks and whip out the 5.8 for hills and tranny however.
Thanks for this. Great to have some numbers
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on May 21, 2020, 06:21:32 PM
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If you can find some hollows cheaper than tits I would go that route. However if you splurge on Tits they are worth it IMO, I am riding a 5.6 Tit hanger with cast plates from another set as my main and I swear by it. I did a weighing on my truck combos (per truck) so maybe I can help break some of this down.

5.2 titanium hanger with forged plates - 308g
5.2 raw hanger with cast plates - 362g
5.2 raw hanger with forged plates - 342g
5.6 Titanium hanger with cast plates - 336g
5.6 raw hanger with cast plates - 371g
5.6 titanium hanger with forged plates - 315g
5.8 raw hanger with cast plates - 376g

I donít have each versions of these trucks that would be madness lol I just swapped hangers and plates to get weight measurements. But yeah at 335-336 per truck with the titanium hanger and cast plate itís a sick combo for me street skating. I like more weight on trucks and whip out the 5.8 for hills and tranny however.
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Thanks for this. Great to have some numbers

For reals.

Are these with stock bushings/washers?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 21, 2020, 06:26:16 PM
Yeah all stock!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 21, 2020, 06:40:40 PM
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If you can find some hollows cheaper than tits I would go that route. However if you splurge on Tits they are worth it IMO, I am riding a 5.6 Tit hanger with cast plates from another set as my main and I swear by it. I did a weighing on my truck combos (per truck) so maybe I can help break some of this down.

5.2 titanium hanger with forged plates - 308g
5.2 raw hanger with cast plates - 362g
5.2 raw hanger with forged plates - 342g
5.6 Titanium hanger with cast plates - 336g
5.6 raw hanger with cast plates - 371g
5.6 titanium hanger with forged plates - 315g
5.8 raw hanger with cast plates - 376g

I donít have each versions of these trucks that would be madness lol I just swapped hangers and plates to get weight measurements. But yeah at 335-336 per truck with the titanium hanger and cast plate itís a sick combo for me street skating. I like more weight on trucks and whip out the 5.8 for hills and tranny however.
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Thanks for this. Great to have some numbers

Nice work. Last pair of trucks I really loved was 5.2 V-Hollow Lo (forged) with a short 14" WB deck. My post-COVID-19 setup will be 5.6 Titanium with cast plates plates for a 14.125" WB Magenta.

Fuck this lockdown sucks donkey dick.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: fulfillthedream on May 21, 2020, 11:25:36 PM
https://www.instagram.com/ben_degros/?hl=en


he posts a lot of truck specs on ventures. he also has a bunch of boards he tries with different board shapes.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: TheBoognish on May 22, 2020, 06:34:21 AM
Got about 10 hours on my 5.6ís. At first I found the purple bushings a bit too soft but after a few sessions and a bit of tinkering with the tightness, I found that these are my favourite trucks in years.

I also have 5.2ís with white bushings and those feel significantly harder.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jennyjenny on May 22, 2020, 08:02:52 AM
that top bushing looks like shit in the 2nd pic.


almost grabbed some of those the other day online, glad i didn't.

The standard (red) bushings in the Venture polished trucks are really good though. Doesn't take long to "break in".
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on May 22, 2020, 08:11:39 AM
I threw in some Indy orange bushings in my 5.6s, gonna try them out later today after work
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mbam003 on May 25, 2020, 12:26:56 PM
Hollow or raw/polished (the heavy version) for Ventures?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: sadnocomply on May 25, 2020, 12:32:08 PM
Hollow or raw/polished (the heavy version) for Ventures?
depends. What are you shred ambitions? For me itís tits/hollows/lights for flat/ledges/mellow sets. If Iím bombing or rollin tranny itís raws all day. If you scroll up this thread I have some weight measurements for my venture trucks. If you go hollow it will mesh more with the titanium weights I have listed.

The only trucks that matter.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: mbam003 on May 25, 2020, 12:53:26 PM
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depends. What are you shred ambitions? For me itís tits/hollows/lights for flat/ledges/mellow sets. If Iím bombing or rollin tranny itís raws all day. If you scroll up this thread I have some weight measurements for my venture trucks. If you go hollow it will mesh more with the titanium weights I have listed.

The only trucks that matter.

I'm looking for that hefty, stable, poppy feeling that many are describing with Ventures, so I may go with the raws. I'm riding miniramps a lot now so that's an added bonus.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Stigmata on May 25, 2020, 02:13:51 PM
After trying out some 5.6 raws with the orange Indy bushings yesterday, i can honestly say i think Ventures are now my go-to truck. Took me a little bit to get used to them cuz i normally ride Indys, but I really liked the pop on em.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 25, 2020, 07:26:57 PM
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depends. What are you shred ambitions? For me itís tits/hollows/lights for flat/ledges/mellow sets. If Iím bombing or rollin tranny itís raws all day. If you scroll up this thread I have some weight measurements for my venture trucks. If you go hollow it will mesh more with the titanium weights I have listed.

The only trucks that matter.
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I'm looking for that hefty, stable, poppy feeling that many are describing with Ventures, so I may go with the raws. I'm riding miniramps a lot now so that's an added bonus.

Better yet, mix cast plates with hollow axles. Reduced weight while minimizing the WB shift.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: gaunting on May 25, 2020, 10:19:29 PM
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depends. What are you shred ambitions? For me itís tits/hollows/lights for flat/ledges/mellow sets. If Iím bombing or rollin tranny itís raws all day. If you scroll up this thread I have some weight measurements for my venture trucks. If you go hollow it will mesh more with the titanium weights I have listed.

The only trucks that matter.
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I'm looking for that hefty, stable, poppy feeling that many are describing with Ventures, so I may go with the raws. I'm riding miniramps a lot now so that's an added bonus.
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Better yet, mix cast plates with hollow axles. Reduced weight while minimizing the WB shift.

thatís what I planned on doing. I wish they offered a truck with hollow cast baseplates...like the thunder team hollows.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tzhangdox on May 26, 2020, 12:27:25 AM
The ace bushings in my Ventures still feel amazing but have started to bulge and deform a bit much with those flat washers with the stem. Will probably just run them until they start to feel off and either get a new set or go back to stock. All this talk about cast plates has got me wanting to try some, only ever skated the forged plates on ventures. Somewhat concerned that the extra height is going to be weird as I've only ever skated forged indys, and aces and thunders which are both a bit lower.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 26, 2020, 04:50:06 AM
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depends. What are you shred ambitions? For me itís tits/hollows/lights for flat/ledges/mellow sets. If Iím bombing or rollin tranny itís raws all day. If you scroll up this thread I have some weight measurements for my venture trucks. If you go hollow it will mesh more with the titanium weights I have listed.

The only trucks that matter.
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I'm looking for that hefty, stable, poppy feeling that many are describing with Ventures, so I may go with the raws. I'm riding miniramps a lot now so that's an added bonus.
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Better yet, mix cast plates with hollow axles. Reduced weight while minimizing the WB shift.
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thatís what I planned on doing. I wish they offered a truck with hollow cast baseplates...like the thunder team hollows.
Venture team hollows would be my perfect truck probably.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Lorem_Ipsum on May 26, 2020, 09:55:05 AM
Just set up my first board with Ventures ever, and I feel like I'm a true believer now. The pop feels hefty and snappy, and it feels like the extra effort that I put in is definitely apparent when ollieing up/onto things. Currently riding them stock, slightly loosened. Was really pleasantly surprised to have most of my flip tricks back right away without having to go through too crazy of a break in period. Most people where I live are skeptical but I think it's safe to say I'm of the Indy train forever, and keeping all my shit in the DLX family feels like a good thing. Thanks for all the research and stuff!
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Count Jackula on May 26, 2020, 10:15:48 AM
I recently got a new Isle deck that's pretty flat and I was riding it with my Indy 149s which I've used on every deck except my cruiser (Thunder 149 with risers) for the past couple of years. For some reason the pop just wasn't feeling good. After having watched some Ben DeGros YouTube videos here and there and being curious about Venture I grabbed some standard 5.6's. They did the trick for giving my flat deck easier pop, I like the way they grind and the turn to me feels nice and secure.

I imagine the turning radius will be a little tighter once I break the trucks in more, as I like to ride mine on the looser side, but I'm happy with them so far. I'm curious how these trucks will feel on whatever my next board is, assuming it won't be as flat as this Isle.

Sorry that felt like a rant, I'm bored.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Uncle Flea on May 26, 2020, 11:07:55 AM
Cry cry cry

Sunstroke but awake
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 26, 2020, 08:38:11 PM
Just set up my first board with Ventures ever, and I feel like I'm a true believer now. The pop feels hefty and snappy, and it feels like the extra effort that I put in is definitely apparent when ollieing up/onto things. Currently riding them stock, slightly loosened. Was really pleasantly surprised to have most of my flip tricks back right away without having to go through too crazy of a break in period. Most people where I live are skeptical but I think it's safe to say I'm of the Indy train forever, and keeping all my shit in the DLX family feels like a good thing. Thanks for all the research and stuff!

Forged plate Ventures work best on decks with shorter WB in my experience, best setup I had in recent memory was a 8 x 32 x 14 paired with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo. The deck was a few weeks in and a little soggy but going from Thunder to Venture immediately revived the board, everything felt snappy and the pinch was amazing. The deck gave out after a few more sessions but I've been trying to recreate that setup ever since with very limited success.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 411bandit on May 28, 2020, 01:49:59 PM
Just ordered a pair of the Bobby Worrest 5.2s for my Magenta Valls 7.875. WB is 14.25.

Can't fucking wait. I've been riding Indy 139s for awhile and my flip tricks feels off sometimes. Particularly tre flips.

One thing I'm wondering is smaller WB and lower trucks better for flip tricks ? Particularly tre flips.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: lysdexia on May 28, 2020, 04:41:57 PM
shorter wb helps tre flips in a big way, lower trucks do too but the wb makes more of a difference i find
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: off on May 28, 2020, 07:05:38 PM
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Just set up my first board with Ventures ever, and I feel like I'm a true believer now. The pop feels hefty and snappy, and it feels like the extra effort that I put in is definitely apparent when ollieing up/onto things. Currently riding them stock, slightly loosened. Was really pleasantly surprised to have most of my flip tricks back right away without having to go through too crazy of a break in period. Most people where I live are skeptical but I think it's safe to say I'm of the Indy train forever, and keeping all my shit in the DLX family feels like a good thing. Thanks for all the research and stuff!
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Forged plate Ventures work best on decks with shorter WB in my experience, best setup I had in recent memory was a 8 x 32 x 14 paired with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo. The deck was a few weeks in and a little soggy but going from Thunder to Venture immediately revived the board, everything felt snappy and the pinch was amazing. The deck gave out after a few more sessions but I've been trying to recreate that setup ever since with very limited success.
did you try running the same shape again?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 28, 2020, 08:15:43 PM
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Just set up my first board with Ventures ever, and I feel like I'm a true believer now. The pop feels hefty and snappy, and it feels like the extra effort that I put in is definitely apparent when ollieing up/onto things. Currently riding them stock, slightly loosened. Was really pleasantly surprised to have most of my flip tricks back right away without having to go through too crazy of a break in period. Most people where I live are skeptical but I think it's safe to say I'm of the Indy train forever, and keeping all my shit in the DLX family feels like a good thing. Thanks for all the research and stuff!
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Forged plate Ventures work best on decks with shorter WB in my experience, best setup I had in recent memory was a 8 x 32 x 14 paired with Venture 5.2 V-Hollow Lo. The deck was a few weeks in and a little soggy but going from Thunder to Venture immediately revived the board, everything felt snappy and the pinch was amazing. The deck gave out after a few more sessions but I've been trying to recreate that setup ever since with very limited success.
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did you try running the same shape again?

I would have, but I only had 1 of that board. It was a Folklore Fibertech Lite, which is an Australian board company. Got the board when I was there on holiday last year and shipping it to Asia would cost as much as the board itself. I used to travel to Australia pretty frequently for work and the plan was to pick up a a couple of boards every trip. But this virus and subsequent travel restrictions has put a damper on that.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 411bandit on May 29, 2020, 08:13:52 AM
shorter wb helps tre flips in a big way, lower trucks do too but the wb makes more of a difference i find

Defo does. Just had my first flat ground sesh on these. Love them already. So much more stable. From the first pop shove I knew it was on. They turn pretty dam good for first session too. Does the worrest model have different bushings maybe? These are clear yellow.

Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 411bandit on May 30, 2020, 10:18:25 AM
For my next deck I'm cop the Mason Silva full SE. I reckon that will make these 5.2s really come alive.

It's 8.06 x 31.5 with 14 WB
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on May 30, 2020, 11:38:33 AM
For my next deck I'm cop the Mason Silva full SE. I reckon that will make these 5.2s really come alive.

It's 8.06 x 31.5 with 14 WB

I've had mixed success with short boards and Ventures, especially the forged plates. The tail became way too short and I could not get my board to snap against the ground. Discounting the fact it was a dwindle board, the setup just wasn't working for me at that length.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on May 30, 2020, 11:54:43 AM
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shorter wb helps tre flips in a big way, lower trucks do too but the wb makes more of a difference i find
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Defo does. Just had my first flat ground sesh on these. Love them already. So much more stable. From the first pop shove I knew it was on. They turn pretty dam good for first session too. Does the worrest model have different bushings maybe? These are clear yellow.
I just got 6.1 polished and they have clear yellow, my 5.8 worrest's had red. I'm fairly certain that they are all the same durometer if that helps any.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Esmith5488 on May 30, 2020, 03:54:53 PM
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For my next deck I'm cop the Mason Silva full SE. I reckon that will make these 5.2s really come alive.

It's 8.06 x 31.5 with 14 WB
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I've had mixed success with short boards and Ventures, especially the forged plates. The tail became way too short and I could not get my board to snap against the ground. Discounting the fact it was a dwindle board, the setup just wasn't working for me at that length.
I was going to mention this, I love the 8 inch full se but I think the cast ventures are the absolute furthest I could push it with that short of a board. Thankfully the tail is a decent length for that deck length. I think itís 6.5?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on June 01, 2020, 02:00:44 PM
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Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Xen on June 01, 2020, 02:07:55 PM
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For my next deck I'm cop the Mason Silva full SE. I reckon that will make these 5.2s really come alive.

It's 8.06 x 31.5 with 14 WB
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I've had mixed success with short boards and Ventures, especially the forged plates. The tail became way too short and I could not get my board to snap against the ground. Discounting the fact it was a dwindle board, the setup just wasn't working for me at that length.
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I was going to mention this, I love the 8 inch full se but I think the cast ventures are the absolute furthest I could push it with that short of a board. Thankfully the tail is a decent length for that deck length. I think itís 6.5?

I wish they'd make the 8.18 Full SE again, but with a 14.25" WB (it's 14.38).
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: 411bandit on June 01, 2020, 05:19:31 PM
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For my next deck I'm cop the Mason Silva full SE. I reckon that will make these 5.2s really come alive.

It's 8.06 x 31.5 with 14 WB
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I've had mixed success with short boards and Ventures, especially the forged plates. The tail became way too short and I could not get my board to snap against the ground. Discounting the fact it was a dwindle board, the setup just wasn't working for me at that length.
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I was going to mention this, I love the 8 inch full se but I think the cast ventures are the absolute furthest I could push it with that short of a board. Thankfully the tail is a decent length for that deck length. I think itís 6.5?
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I wish they'd make the 8.18 Full SE again, but with a 14.25" WB (it's 14.38).

I set them up on an old Ollie Todd Palace deck today.
 
Width 7.75Ē
Length 31.25Ē
Wheelbase 13.8Ē

They work so well. Kickflips and tre flips are a dream. I don't know what is affecting the difference from the megenta 14.25wb but they handle even better
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FleeceFlannel on June 01, 2020, 11:01:45 PM
Does anyone here ride their Ventures rattly loose?  If so, what bushing combination are you on?  I rode independents for a long time and always had a bones medium on the bottom and Indy low bushing on the top so I could keep them real loose without losing the kingpin nut but that combination doesnít seem to work as well with Ventures.  I had a problem with the pivot cup being super tight too but fixed that by sanding out the pivot cups a bit. 
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: rocklobster on June 01, 2020, 11:44:14 PM
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For my next deck I'm cop the Mason Silva full SE. I reckon that will make these 5.2s really come alive.

It's 8.06 x 31.5 with 14 WB
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I've had mixed success with short boards and Ventures, especially the forged plates. The tail became way too short and I could not get my board to snap against the ground. Discounting the fact it was a dwindle board, the setup just wasn't working for me at that length.
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I was going to mention this, I love the 8 inch full se but I think the cast ventures are the absolute furthest I could push it with that short of a board. Thankfully the tail is a decent length for that deck length. I think itís 6.5?
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I wish they'd make the 8.18 Full SE again, but with a 14.25" WB (it's 14.38).
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I set them up on an old Ollie Todd Palace deck today.
 
Width 7.75Ē
Length 31.25Ē
Wheelbase 13.8Ē

They work so well. Kickflips and tre flips are a dream. I don't know what is affecting the difference from the megenta 14.25wb but they handle even better

Wow that board is looking tiny, makes me miss my 7.5 days.

Does anyone here ride their Ventures rattly loose?  If so, what bushing combination are you on?  I rode independents for a long time and always had a bones medium on the bottom and Indy low bushing on the top so I could keep them real loose without losing the kingpin nut but that combination doesnít seem to work as well with Ventures.  I had a problem with the pivot cup being super tight too but fixed that by sanding out the pivot cups a bit. 

I rode mine rattle loose and had them come apart while cruising down the street before. I think the stock bushings, they start out very hard but by the end of the 1st or 2nd session they soften enough where I could ride my trucks loose enough with the nut catching without worrying about the truck flying apart.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: FleeceFlannel on June 01, 2020, 11:54:53 PM
Appreciate it dude, Iím gonna give the stock bushings another session and see how they go.  Maybe sand down the top bushing a little bit and see if that gives me a little more room for rattling without messing up the geometry.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Skart on June 02, 2020, 12:18:35 AM
Anyone find boards they like on 6.1's?
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: moonordie on June 02, 2020, 06:12:38 AM
Anyone find boards they like on 6.1's?
Villani shape on 9.125 feels awesome.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 02, 2020, 06:43:53 AM
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Anyone find boards they like on 6.1's?
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Villani shape on 9.125 feels awesome.
into this and hearing more suggestions.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: chappers on June 02, 2020, 08:43:30 AM
super tempted to cop some 5.2 hollow lows. had hollow thunder 147s a few years back and miss em, feel like id really get on with hollow ventures
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: tangar on June 02, 2020, 10:37:38 AM
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Anyone find boards they like on 6.1's?
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Villani shape on 9.125 feels awesome.
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into this and hearing more suggestions.
8.5 FA
8.5 Alien Workshop
Anti Hero Brown bomber
All on 6.1s in my quiver at the moment
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: Wonderful Whizzplank on June 02, 2020, 01:54:01 PM
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Anyone find boards they like on 6.1's?
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Villani shape on 9.125 feels awesome.
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into this and hearing more suggestions.
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8.5 FA
8.5 Alien Workshop
Anti Hero Brown bomber
All on 6.1s in my quiver at the moment

Alien workshop 8.75 on 6.1s feels how I wanted it to feel on thunder 151s. Only one session in though.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: BL0B on June 02, 2020, 02:02:33 PM
Appreciate it dude, Iím gonna give the stock bushings another session and see how they go.  Maybe sand down the top bushing a little bit and see if that gives me a little more room for rattling without messing up the geometry.


you doing flat top washers? i'd try that or no top washer before i sanded anything.
Title: Re: Venture 2020
Post by: jay_nev on June 02, 2020, 02:08:55 PM