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Title: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Bubblegum Tate on January 13, 2020, 12:02:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEk-_cx1e88
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: conqueso on January 13, 2020, 02:00:11 AM
uh.....who?
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Copthorne14 on January 13, 2020, 02:03:23 AM
uh.....who?

Jenkem dude.

Pretty entertaining so far
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: eranka on January 13, 2020, 03:05:54 AM
Great episode. I like when they bring people that are usually behind the scenes, they usually have more to say and have a good perspective on the world and skating.
Ian mentioned Mikey Alfred in the episode and it made me think of how much the industry needs more people like Michna and less Alfreds.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: straight fucking edge on January 13, 2020, 04:06:26 AM
uh.....who?

how are you on a skate gossip website and don't know who that is???
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: dmemz on January 13, 2020, 05:41:48 AM
Who?
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Fongstarr. on January 13, 2020, 06:13:17 AM
I am a third of the way in. He mentions Slap a couple times. Is he referencing the Slap board or the mag and general wedsite?

It is entertaining do far.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: theknifesong on January 13, 2020, 06:20:38 AM
I am a third of the way in. He mentions Slap a couple times. Is he referencing the Slap board or the mag and general wedsite?

It is entertaining do far.

board
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Global Moderator on January 13, 2020, 06:40:40 AM
uh.....who?
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: theknifesong on January 13, 2020, 06:59:36 AM
The Nine Club is 178 episodes deep and that was first one I watch. Must say it was really good.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: tortfeasor on January 13, 2020, 08:37:05 AM
probably one of the most entertaining episodes to date. for sure worth a listen even if you are not a fan of the show.   the vibe is reminding me a lot of artie's first appearance on stern. more than a few laugh out loud moments. 
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Chatbot on January 13, 2020, 09:11:27 AM
This is a good one for sure. Super insightful how they run
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: dallou on January 13, 2020, 11:30:57 AM
the episode has the same vibe as the WKND founder episode. The best one for me
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Lukabrazi on January 13, 2020, 12:21:00 PM
ian is the fucking man, hilarious dude, he was a guest during their adidas Das days episode and was one of the most entertaining, ripping hard on monster, skull candy etc.  psyched to listen to this one
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: weregoingunion on January 13, 2020, 12:23:26 PM
chris roberts: “whos jenkem?”

roger: “the mag/website & the same guys who made that book that’s been on our shelf forever”

roberts: “oh that’s RIGHT! i love jenkem bro”
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: iwishilivedinfinla on January 13, 2020, 12:28:02 PM
ian fucking rules
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Audrey II on January 13, 2020, 12:31:14 PM
craziest part of this interview is when they all agree that nak is a good rapper.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: dmemz on January 13, 2020, 01:02:57 PM
Yeah really interesting, “this guys a sicko!” Describing jereme Rogers had me going
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: layzieyez on January 13, 2020, 01:16:26 PM
Loved the rags to resources story about the humble beginnings of jenkem. Thanks for some quality entertainment on this wet day.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Nanda Zinger on January 13, 2020, 01:29:05 PM
the episode has the same vibe as the WKND founder episode. The best one for me
Totally thought this exact thing. Ian and Grant Yansura both poke fun at the industry pretty openly. Two of the best episodes due to that.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on January 13, 2020, 02:05:20 PM
Him icing Roger felt like a dare and I loved it very much.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Keep_on_Chooglin on January 13, 2020, 09:49:44 PM
Glad they made this episode happen. Ian is a real one.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: S. on January 13, 2020, 10:41:40 PM
It is kind of sad how much of running a skate mag/website/Pod depends on paid content. Pretty cool that Crob and Mishna talked about it so openly.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: alraunen on January 13, 2020, 11:38:33 PM
I haven't heard a nine club episode in the last 3 months but this one was really cool. I got a little bit embarrassed when they praise Nak rap, the rest is great
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: waffle on January 14, 2020, 12:58:17 AM
This was great - I’d love to see more interviews from skateboarding content creators - it gives a fresh perspective that, for better or for worse, is more relatable.

I’ve work with the Jenkem dudes now and again and it’s super low stress. They’re all cool, smart dudes down for dope shit.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: arrbee on January 14, 2020, 05:30:33 AM
It is kind of sad how much of running a skate mag/website/Pod depends on paid content. Pretty cool that Crob and Mishna talked about it so openly.

Yes, but there are bills to be paid. Web hosting, buying computers, cameras, tools to do the jobs. Having an office space, I mean shit even if out of an apartment you have to pay rent there.

Goes back to what Roger was ranting about.

Otherwise just follow a tumblr or blog that is trying to do it in their spare time and compare the quality of content.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: S. on January 14, 2020, 07:13:44 AM
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It is kind of sad how much of running a skate mag/website/Pod depends on paid content. Pretty cool that Crob and Mishna talked about it so openly.
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Yes, but there are bills to be paid. Web hosting, buying computers, cameras, tools to do the jobs. Having an office space, I mean shit even if out of an apartment you have to pay rent there.

Goes back to what Roger was ranting about.

Otherwise just follow a tumblr or blog that is trying to do it in their spare time and compare the quality of content.

of course. You don't need to defend reality against me.

It would be cool, though if it was possible to somehow keep content and advertisement separate as is expected from news outlets (I know, I know lines have long been blurred on those as well). I mean freedom of speech is a nice thing you know.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: arrbee on January 14, 2020, 07:37:18 AM
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It is kind of sad how much of running a skate mag/website/Pod depends on paid content. Pretty cool that Crob and Mishna talked about it so openly.
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Yes, but there are bills to be paid. Web hosting, buying computers, cameras, tools to do the jobs. Having an office space, I mean shit even if out of an apartment you have to pay rent there.

Goes back to what Roger was ranting about.

Otherwise just follow a tumblr or blog that is trying to do it in their spare time and compare the quality of content.
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of course. You don't need to defend reality against me.

It would be cool, though if it was possible to somehow keep content and advertisement separate as is expected from news outlets (I know, I know lines have long been blurred on those as well). I mean freedom of speech is a nice thing you know.

Funding has to come from somewhere though. I do think Jenkem does a good job of being as unbiased as possible.

I did like towards the end of the episode where Ian said he had to get back to NY cause he was around too many dudes and getting friendly and wouldn't want to talk shit on them any more.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Watson on January 14, 2020, 08:34:56 AM
LOL at a resource centre for aging pros to teach them how to survive outside of being a pro skateboarder.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: primitive_rage on January 14, 2020, 08:53:52 AM
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uh.....who?
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how are you on a skate gossip website and don't know who that is???
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: heckler on January 14, 2020, 09:08:25 AM
LOL at a resource centre for aging pros to teach them how to survive outside of being a pro skateboarder.
The Ian Michna Center for Pro Skateboarders Who Can't Work Good And Want To Do Other Stuff Good Too
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Watson on January 14, 2020, 09:16:44 AM
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LOL at a resource centre for aging pros to teach them how to survive outside of being a pro skateboarder.
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The Ian Michna Center for Pro Skateboarders Who Can't Work Good And Want To Do Other Stuff Good Too

Basically exactly what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Glurmpz on January 14, 2020, 09:48:58 AM
Maybe I'm just old, but this guy seems very 'millennial'. Turned it off. I rarely check Jenkem, so the kid who runs it is not a compelling guest to me.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on January 14, 2020, 09:57:06 AM
Maybe I'm just old, but this guy seems very 'millennial'. Is giving someone a Smirnoff Ice a millennial prank or something? Anyway, turned it off. Maybe this is appealing to younger skaters, but running Jenkem is not interesting to me and I've never heard of this guy. He kinda just seems arrogant.

*reluctantly loads 'ok boomer' cannon*
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Glurmpz on January 14, 2020, 10:51:18 AM
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Maybe I'm just old, but this guy seems very 'millennial'. Is giving someone a Smirnoff Ice a millennial prank or something? Anyway, turned it off. Maybe this is appealing to younger skaters, but running Jenkem is not interesting to me and I've never heard of this guy. He kinda just seems arrogant.
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*reluctantly loads 'ok boomer' cannon*

Haha, that's what I'm saying. This guy makes me feel old.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: silvertone_spacemachine on January 14, 2020, 12:19:33 PM
I know TNC isn't thought super highly of on slap but I got a soft spot for those guys:

with that being said, while some of the interview is insightful and interesting, I couldn't but feel like the dude was "cool guying" a lot and trying to make jokes/make himself seem above the other dudes interviewing him multiple times during the conversation. Kinda made me uncomfortable and sort of sad, if that makes sense?
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: slippy on January 14, 2020, 01:21:26 PM
I know TNC isn't thought super highly of on slap but I got a soft spot for those guys:

with that being said, while some of the interview is insightful and interesting, I couldn't but feel like the dude was "cool guying" a lot and trying to make jokes/make himself seem above the other dudes interviewing him multiple times during the conversation. Kinda made me uncomfortable and sort of sad, if that makes sense?

I can't say I agree, seemed almost overtly humble about being in the realm of "cool" skateboarding.  People fuck with Jenkem that otherwise seem to be too cool for school and he runs it.  Liked the ep
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Escape Hell on January 14, 2020, 05:25:06 PM
craziest part of this interview is when they all agree that nak is a good rapper.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Monkey_Mcpott on January 14, 2020, 05:29:58 PM
I was hoping they'd talk about the Carroll interview since I still remember that shutting down Slap for a bit with all the foot traffic. People couldn't even get to the page.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Silky Johnson on January 14, 2020, 05:54:25 PM
He looks like if Danny Garcia and TFunk had a lovechild
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Yesterdays-pop on January 14, 2020, 07:08:00 PM
I’ve talked shit on this guy before but he seems like a good guy and I like Jenkem a lot. The website sucks on my phone and the new content hasn’t been that great. This isn’t a good nine club, would have been a good experience episode.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: rocklobster on January 14, 2020, 07:49:37 PM
chris roberts: “whos jenkem?”

roger: “the mag/website & the same guys who made that book that’s been on our shelf forever”

roberts: “oh that’s RIGHT! i love jenkem bro”

Kelly:*laughs loudly and heartily*

I was hoping they'd talk about the Carroll interview since I still remember that shutting down Slap for a bit with all the foot traffic. People couldn't even get to the page.

I was hoping they would go into the MJ and recent pedophile skate park story they released recently, that was a good story and shed light on a part of the industry few people talk about.

Solid episode for sure, wish it went on for longer. I'd much rather listen to behind the scenes guys talk than pro skaters, most of them don't make good interview guests and the show gets formulaic: how did they start, how did they get sponsored, big part they released etc. I get the show is supposed to be lighthearted but I want a look behind the curtains. Guess the industry is pretty closed off and thrives under a veil of secrecy; hell it wasn't until fairly recently we found out the secret sauce behind board companies was woodshops more than the brand itself.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Speakr on January 15, 2020, 01:17:12 AM
Pretty amusing episode. Think he would be a great guy to sit in on the experience episodes. Those are getting harder to watch for me as they are.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Jagr on January 15, 2020, 11:28:37 AM
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craziest part of this interview is when they all agree that nak is a good rapper.
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Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Francis Xavier on January 15, 2020, 07:01:53 PM
Down for Jenkem and Ian. They email me horrible videos to watch sometimes,and see if they're worth posting on the site so I feel like I work for them, haha.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: jakeumms on January 15, 2020, 09:24:50 PM
uh.....who?
To be fair, I said the same thing til I started the episode and was like oh it's the Jenkem dude. Not to say the same thing as everybody else again but I do really like the non-skater episodes the best.

Bummed nobody acknowledged that Big Brother put jenkem (the substance) on the map. That was the first place I and my friends had ever heard of it.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Spacetravelisboring on January 17, 2020, 11:09:51 AM
Down for Jenkem and Ian. They email me horrible videos to watch sometimes,and see if they're worth posting on the site so I feel like I work for them, haha.

Just curious  but why do they care about your opinion?  Not a diss it's  actual  curiousty
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Murge on January 17, 2020, 11:21:43 AM
I started this and it was kinda boring. Then I stopped when a new episode of the bunt came out.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: sharkin on January 17, 2020, 12:28:28 PM
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craziest part of this interview is when they all agree that nak is a good rapper.
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Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Francis Xavier on January 17, 2020, 01:48:43 PM
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Down for Jenkem and Ian. They email me horrible videos to watch sometimes,and see if they're worth posting on the site so I feel like I work for them, haha.
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Just curious  but why do they care about your opinion?  Not a diss it's  actual  curiousty

I sucked the right dick.


Or...





Someone from Jenkem started a thread on here asking who would want to watch and rate their video submissions,me and few others are on the line.


Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: straight fucking edge on January 17, 2020, 04:22:40 PM
i’m going with you sucked the right dick
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Francis Xavier on January 17, 2020, 04:46:06 PM
i’m going with you sucked the right dick
I thought we agreed you wouldn't say anything bitch!

Really though, pretty sure you only got a little cash if they posted a video you said was cool. Everything I ever got was pretty bad.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Spacetravelisboring on January 18, 2020, 10:21:34 AM
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Down for Jenkem and Ian. They email me horrible videos to watch sometimes,and see if they're worth posting on the site so I feel like I work for them, haha.
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Just curious  but why do they care about your opinion?  Not a diss it's  actual  curiousty
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I sucked the right dick.


Or...





Someone from Jenkem started a thread on here asking who would want to watch and rate their video submissions,me and few others are on the line.

Oh that's  pretty cool.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: elbarto on January 18, 2020, 12:33:05 PM
I started this and it was kinda boring. Then I stopped when a new episode of the bunt came out.

Everyone needed to know this, thank you for your contribution to this thread.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Murge on January 18, 2020, 02:16:55 PM
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I started this and it was kinda boring. Then I stopped when a new episode of the bunt came out.
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Everyone needed to know this, thank you for your contribution to this thread.

Just doing my part. 
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: Smokie Brewton on January 19, 2020, 02:56:13 PM
This was easily one of my favourite episodes, as well as the Andy Howell one. I like hearing guys that are actually interesting on there. Someone already mentioned how a lot of the pro skaters ones are formulaic and boring and I couldn't agree more. Wish this one was longer.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: P Casanova on January 20, 2020, 01:46:48 PM
AN OFFER WAS MADE TO FORREST FOR SELFISH.

I MADE THE OFFER

JEREME IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.

-Selfishrep
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: drcroc on January 26, 2020, 02:21:56 PM
The most interesting part of this interview was the beginning when he forced Crob to son him with, "Stay in your f*cking lane" or whatever he said...

Plus, you'll notice the entire conversation centered around, "How much money are you making right now off being the creator of Jenkem?" which he doesn't really answer. Which, he doesn't have to, but it would be interesting to know.

Props to this guy for going after his idea and making it into something... Just gotta wonder if Jenkem can really be this guy's forever career.

The fact that he mentions the filmer Socrates Leal "shouldn't have to" get a factory job, but didn't offer the guy employment himself came off as a bit naive. Saying what someone else should or shouldn't have to do is too close to saying what they should or shouldn't do in general, comes off kind of "know-it-all"-ish.

Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on January 26, 2020, 03:31:55 PM
The most interesting part of this interview was the beginning when he forced Crob to son him with, "Stay in your f*cking lane" or whatever he said...

Plus, you'll notice the entire conversation centered around, "How much money are you making right now off being the creator of Jenkem?" which he doesn't really answer. Which, he doesn't have to, but it would be interesting to know.

Props to this guy for going after his idea and making it into something... Just gotta wonder if Jenkem can really be this guy's forever career.

The fact that he mentions the filmer Socrates Leal "shouldn't have to" get a factory job, but didn't offer the guy employment himself came off as a bit naive. Saying what someone else should or shouldn't have to do is too close to saying what they should or shouldn't do in general, comes off kind of "know-it-all"-ish.



I think you're overestimating the size of operations over at Jenkem.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: coyote2425 on January 26, 2020, 04:48:57 PM
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The most interesting part of this interview was the beginning when he forced Crob to son him with, "Stay in your f*cking lane" or whatever he said...

Plus, you'll notice the entire conversation centered around, "How much money are you making right now off being the creator of Jenkem?" which he doesn't really answer. Which, he doesn't have to, but it would be interesting to know.

Props to this guy for going after his idea and making it into something... Just gotta wonder if Jenkem can really be this guy's forever career.

The fact that he mentions the filmer Socrates Leal "shouldn't have to" get a factory job, but didn't offer the guy employment himself came off as a bit naive. Saying what someone else should or shouldn't have to do is too close to saying what they should or shouldn't do in general, comes off kind of "know-it-all"-ish.
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I think you're overestimating the size of operations over at Jenkem.

Ha totally agree. They have budget to do cool shit and have decent ad revenue coming in, but it's still a skateboarding content website.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: drcroc on January 26, 2020, 06:26:27 PM
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The most interesting part of this interview was the beginning when he forced Crob to son him with, "Stay in your f*cking lane" or whatever he said...

Plus, you'll notice the entire conversation centered around, "How much money are you making right now off being the creator of Jenkem?" which he doesn't really answer. Which, he doesn't have to, but it would be interesting to know.

Props to this guy for going after his idea and making it into something... Just gotta wonder if Jenkem can really be this guy's forever career.

The fact that he mentions the filmer Socrates Leal "shouldn't have to" get a factory job, but didn't offer the guy employment himself came off as a bit naive. Saying what someone else should or shouldn't have to do is too close to saying what they should or shouldn't do in general, comes off kind of "know-it-all"-ish.
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I think you're overestimating the size of operations over at Jenkem.
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Ha totally agree. They have budget to do cool shit and have decent ad revenue coming in, but it's still a skateboarding content website.

That's exactly it. He doesn't have the means to employ the guy through Jenkem, but he's willing to suggest someone else in the skate-industry should just do it, instead.

It's like working in the Finance world and saying to one of your ex-Finance, unemployed friends, "Hey, I can't help ya buddy, but you shouldn't have to work at McDonald's, just be more outgoing and maybe one day you'll be back in the Finance world like me."  Unfortunately, life doesn't really work that way.
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: waffle on January 26, 2020, 06:48:21 PM
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The most interesting part of this interview was the beginning when he forced Crob to son him with, "Stay in your f*cking lane" or whatever he said...

Plus, you'll notice the entire conversation centered around, "How much money are you making right now off being the creator of Jenkem?" which he doesn't really answer. Which, he doesn't have to, but it would be interesting to know.

Props to this guy for going after his idea and making it into something... Just gotta wonder if Jenkem can really be this guy's forever career.

The fact that he mentions the filmer Socrates Leal "shouldn't have to" get a factory job, but didn't offer the guy employment himself came off as a bit naive. Saying what someone else should or shouldn't have to do is too close to saying what they should or shouldn't do in general, comes off kind of "know-it-all"-ish.
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I think you're overestimating the size of operations over at Jenkem.
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Ha totally agree. They have budget to do cool shit and have decent ad revenue coming in, but it's still a skateboarding content website.
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That's exactly it. He doesn't have the means to employ the guy through Jenkem, but he's willing to suggest someone else in the skate-industry should just do it, instead.

It's like working in the Finance world and saying to one of your ex-Finance, unemployed friends, "Hey, I can't help ya buddy, but you shouldn't have to work at McDonald's, just be more outgoing and maybe one day you'll be back in the Finance world like me."  Unfortunately, life doesn't really work that way.

I don’t see what’s wrong with it. If you don’t have the means to employ someone, at the worst your telling them something positive. At the best, his message spreads, and someone newly informed hires him.

Regardless of what you believe, luck is involved in a lot of things. For example, in tech, top companies (e.g. FAANG) receive thousands of applications for each job posting. As part of the filtering, there are necessarily false-negatives. If I have a friend whom I know is a great engineer get rejected, I can sincerely tell him, “It’s a shame you [at whatever stage of the interview process] got rejected. You’d be great here.” Is the onus then on my to get him hired there?

Likewise, Ian can recognize the potential Socrates has and call it out without owing him anything. Again, now we’re talking about Socrates working in the skate industry , a net positive for him if nothing else.

Also, saying others shouldn’t post about others goes against your cyclical point:

Saying what someone else should or shouldn't have to do is too close to saying what they should or shouldn't do in general, comes off kind of "know-it-all"-ish.”
Title: Re: Ian Michna | The Nine Club With Chris Roberts - Episode 178
Post by: drcroc on January 26, 2020, 07:18:40 PM
I don’t see what’s wrong with it. If you don’t have the means to employ someone, at the worst your telling them something positive. At the best, his message spreads, and someone newly informed hires him.

Regardless of what you believe, luck is involved in a lot of things. For example, in tech, top companies (e.g. FAANG) receive thousands of applications for each job posting. As part of the filtering, there are necessarily false-negatives. If I have a friend whom I know is a great engineer get rejected, I can sincerely tell him, “It’s a shame you [at whatever stage of the interview process] got rejected. You’d be great here.” Is the onus then on my to get him hired there?


Nope, but the suggestion the Jenkem guy made went beyond this. He said, "If you were more outgoing, you'd have an active career in the skate industry," and "you shouldn't have to work outside of the skate industry."

To which I said, hey that's pretty naive.

Also, saying others shouldn’t post about others goes against your cyclical point:

Saying what someone else should or shouldn't have to do is too close to saying what they should or shouldn't do in general, comes off kind of "know-it-all"-ish.”

I never said "others shouldn't post about others"... And not sure what a "cyclical point" is. If I tell you (or anyone, for that matter), "Hey, stop posting on SLAP, just some advice," I'd come off as a D-bag, right?