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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: Thomas on January 28, 2020, 12:48:52 AM
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https://www.lastresortab.com/
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Interesting. Wasn’t expecting this at all. The site looks sick with the record players. He said it’s launching March 3rd
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As for if it’s a skate shoe brand or not... product description just says:
The functionality and purpose of the shoe is determined by the end user and context. Re-interpretation is highly encouraged and at the core of our design philosophy.
They’re expensive but looks like they’re made in Portugal and likely not in sweat shops, similar to Polar’s gear
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Very interesting if it's not owned by Nike.
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I like the simple design but that price tag is abit high
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Very interesting if it's not owned by Nike.
It says "made in Portugal" so I don't think it will be owned by Nike.
The price is pretty high though.
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Must be a tiny factory, if his whole company is in that little shoebox?
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Fuck, I love the idea of taking money from Nike to put up Polar, and then with the profits start an independent skate shoe company. It's too good to be true for sure.
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189$ might aswell buy 20 pair of knock off vans in a bazaar
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They look beautifully made. The size guide is messing with my head though, they've skipped sizes US 9.5 and 10. EU 43=US 9 but then EU 44 = US 10.5??? Might just be a weird error when filling in the details on Shopify I guess
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No shipping to Australia. That counts out approximately 1/3 of Slap. I wonder if shops that have an account with the Polar distro will be able to get these in?
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As for if it’s a skate shoe brand or not... product description just says:
The functionality and purpose of the shoe is determined by the end user and context. Re-interpretation is highly encouraged and at the core of our design philosophy.
lol re-interpretation of what? functionality and purpose? of this product description? percieved brand identity? which is what? or shoes in general?
''shoes to do-do-doo stuff in''
same with that 'manifesto' tab, starts out all weird and zany and naive but doesn't communicate anything other then a tire 'buy our stuff, not for us but for you' dogma
''expensive emerica's we're not calling skateshoes cause you wouldn't pay 200E for a skate-shoe''
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having said that, all the power to pontus, cool for doing his thing,
just these hollow phrases get on me nerves
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Suprised by this. These shoes are made and designed by a OG Stockholm skater named Sami. Seems Pontus bought himself in and they relaunched under new name.
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They have been for sale for a while under the name 3-3-20.
https://3-3-20.com/
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Into a lot of what he does, but this just seems kind of unnecessary to me. I don't know. Some of the tees look cool too, but not for $63.
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Will buy
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Cool but too expensive. Or maybe I’m too poor?
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Must be a tiny factory, if his whole company is in that little shoebox?
http://youtu.be/7ffj8SHrbk0
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Ironically, the prices aren't too far off what we used to have to pay for pro model skate shoes in Europe back in the very late 90's, very early 00's.
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(https://i.ibb.co/61rnzSj/Capture.png)
https://www.lastresortab.com/
Hopefully this doesn't become another Proper. Good as fuck products, a super interactive owner who listens to the fans but still basically fizzles out.
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The price is too steep to qualify as a shoe you're about to scuff the hell out of.
And yeah, the blurb is pretty terrible.
Pontus really does like the early 90's with the lace saver though.
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They look beautifully made. The size guide is messing with my head though, they've skipped sizes US 9.5 and 10. EU 43=US 9 but then EU 44 = US 10.5??? Might just be a weird error when filling in the details on Shopify I guess
I wear EU 43, which is US 10. (For etnies anyways). €189 is insanely too expensive for me.
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Hi Pontus!
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Hi Pontus!
(https://i.imgur.com/LMsA44t.png)
Skateable high top shoe*
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Hi Pontus!
(https://i.imgur.com/LMsA44t.png)
Holy shit!!!
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Just get Reebok Revenge shoe for $40. Same basic design
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Just get Reebok Revenge shoe for $40. Same basic design
Yeah, the design may be the same, but the working conditions will most likely be different...
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Hi Pontus!
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Holy shit!!!
I was about to move to sweden anyway
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Man’s charging $60 for white tee shirts. No sir!
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I doubt they're gonna be skate shoes. There's just no more room in the market and it SEEMS like he's smarter than that
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pontus, just remember to take a book to hide your erection when you're at various beaches in porto for 5 days a week for the rest of your life
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Cut my life into pieces...
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Seems weird. I heard that nike(converse) give him 100k to start polar. I still love pontus so might buy pair.
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Sorry not sorry but pontus can get fucked and not in the fun way. Unless that shoe lasts me at least half a year with full function ability then im not spending $200..i spent $100 on a pair of reissue lynx and thats where i cut it. Still dont have a hole in them either.
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Ugh, looks like one of those Globe/dvs shoes they sell in sporting goods stores.
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Cut my life into pieces...
beat me to it!
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Good design
Made in Portugal
Good materials
They aren't expensive for "designer" sneakers. I wouldn't skate them.
The J's on my feet cost the same as these. Might as well give that fancy shoe money to Pontus for more ethically made, better quality kicks.
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Looks like those goodfellow shoes they sell in Target for $20.
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Holy fuck you guy's are dense! These are not skate shoes, the skate shoe is not out yet. I understood that before Pontus story, but you still don't get it, with picture evidence? Jesus...
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Yes, this is expensive for most of us here. Too expensive for me unfortunately...
But the shoes are made in Portugal, and as you already know is more expensive than China and probably more responsible in terms of ethics.
When I started skateboarding in 2001 I begged my dad to buy me a pair skateshoes (can’t remember the brand, but China made for sure) but it was like 110 euros ! Didn’t get them anyway haha.
I’m not sure to understand his story, he said « the skate shoe will be under 100 » so there will be a more skate-oriented shoe ?
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Only skate in Rone footwear myself
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I'll wait and see what the skatable version looks like. Highly doubt they will have a sz 13 or 14 though.
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I just posted about this in the Upcoming Shoes thread but here's what I've figured out about it. Not because I have insider knowledge, just because it's not that hard if you just click on a couple instagram accounts. (Most of it has been mentioned here already.)
This was already a project named 3-3-20 by this guy @sami_sthlm that has existed since October 2018. Seems like Pontus is a part of it now and they're moving in a skate direction. The shoes and prices that are currently on the website are not meant specifically to be skate shoes but they are skateable. As Pontus said in that post, there is a skateable shoe coming out that will be under $100.
In the last two days or so they changed the name of the instagram account from @3320_manifesto or something to @lastresortab and deleted all the posts to start new.
I'm stoked to watch this develop.
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Sorry not sorry but pontus can get fucked and not in the fun way. Unless that shoe lasts me at least half a year with full function ability then im not spending $200..i spent $100 on a pair of reissue lynx and thats where i cut it. Still dont have a hole in them either.
If you actually looked at the thread before posting you’d see there will be a skate shoe sold for less than your lynx reissue.
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this is the skate version of common projects.
agree or disagree
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this is the skate version of common projects.
agree or disagree
similar to rone as ok boomer noted above, clae too i guess. with lifestyle shoe brands if it hits you can make serious bread, so maybe was worth it for pontus to take a shot
curious what the silhouette of the skate shoe will be
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Just get Reebok Revenge shoe for $40. Same basic design
always wondered why rickk never used this template for a pro shoe
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I just posted about this in the Upcoming Shoes thread but here's what I've figured out about it. Not because I have insider knowledge, just because it's not that hard if you just click on a couple instagram accounts. (Most of it has been mentioned here already.)
This was already a project named 3-3-20 by this guy @sami_sthlm that has existed since October 2018. Seems like Pontus is a part of it now and they're moving in a skate direction. The shoes and prices that are currently on the website are not meant specifically to be skate shoes but they are skateable. As Pontus said in that post, there is a skateable shoe coming out that will be under $100.
In the last two days or so they changed the name of the instagram account from @3320_manifesto or something to @lastresortab and deleted all the posts to start new.
I'm stoked to watch this develop.
Glad someone has a funcional brain over here!
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Get it while is hot,polar clothes are trendy outside the skate shithole...impressed took this long to capitalize on the fashion fuccbois that dont skate.
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I just posted about this in the Upcoming Shoes thread but here's what I've figured out about it. Not because I have insider knowledge, just because it's not that hard if you just click on a couple instagram accounts. (Most of it has been mentioned here already.)
This was already a project named 3-3-20 by this guy @sami_sthlm that has existed since October 2018. Seems like Pontus is a part of it now and they're moving in a skate direction. The shoes and prices that are currently on the website are not meant specifically to be skate shoes but they are skateable. As Pontus said in that post, there is a skateable shoe coming out that will be under $100.
In the last two days or so they changed the name of the instagram account from @3320_manifesto or something to @lastresortab and deleted all the posts to start new.
I'm stoked to watch this develop.
Like I wrote before in the thread. Been following the brand since Sami released the shoes a while back. Been cool to see it form into an actual product - Sami is a cool Guy. A lot nicer then Pontus. The 3-3-20 are not skateshoes, but designer with inspiration from Classic skateshoes.
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Amazing that this thread's hit two full pages and there's only a handful of dudes with brains in here.
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Rip cans/vons :'(
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Amazing that this website is over a decade old and there's only a handful of dudes with brains in here.
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Amazing that this thread's hit two full pages and there's only a handful of dudes with brains in here.
heckler on high IQ big brain confirmed
this is some lame as hell, unoriginal, and overpriced fashion shit that doesn't even look good. and you are surprised it gets hated on when posted in a skateboarding forum? lmao
also im calling bullshit on it being made from high quality materials. literally no proof of that or reason to believe it
skaters trying to start businesses should stick to t shirt, hoodie, hat, and board companies. you know, stuff where you can just buy blanks and through a ripped off graphic onto.
maybe leave the difficult stuff like designing and manufacturing shoes to companies that actually have some expertise in that area
So you didn't read the thread?
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I just want it to take fucking Golden Goose down. For all I know those guys are a fraud and they're tackling the exact same market. Would be satisfying to see Pontus win this.
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Sorry not sorry but pontus can get fucked and not in the fun way. Unless that shoe lasts me at least half a year with full function ability then im not spending $200..i spent $100 on a pair of reissue lynx and thats where i cut it. Still dont have a hole in them either.
good for you 8)
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I have spent a shitload of money on shoes in my lifetime. Prolly had 500 pair if I’m being realistic with myself(I know it sounds insane but it’s real). I personally would never drop over $230 for a shoe unless it something I would literally be foaming at the mouth to buy. In my case that’s rare Lebrons and Jordan’s, and also Cole Haan when they were owned by the swoosh. I’ve honestly been thinking about getting some red bottoms as of late just because I’ve always wanted some legit non-sneaker prada. What I’m getting at is there is no way in fucking hell I would pay $208 for those fucking shoes, no way in hell.
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Balenciaga Triple S or fukkaouttahere
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The orange and midnight blue are pretty fresh. $200 isn’t outrageous if they’re truly well made out of premium materials. They’re obviously not trying to cater to dudes who’ve been skating Etnies Maranas, and they’re not stupid because they will def sell.
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I just want it to take fucking Golden Goose down. For all I know those guys are a fraud and they're tackling the exact same market. Would be satisfying to see Pontus win this.
People actually fell for the golden goose bullshit? I thought that was the most obvious ploy of the last decade.
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The orange and midnight blue are pretty fresh. $200 isn’t outrageous if they’re truly well made out of premium materials. They’re obviously not trying to cater to dudes who’ve been skating Etnies Maranas, and they’re not stupid because they will def sell.
Since these are older models from 3320 and are coming out with a skate shoe soon, I'm assuming theyre about to start catering to dudes who skate.
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Why are so many people upset about this company being created? First of all, it has been mentioned several times that a 100$ shoe will be released, which isn't outrageous by any means if it's a quality shoe made in Europe. Anyone who has been buying dunks or other 100$ skate shoes lately will probably back me up when I say that you sure as fuck aren't getting what you pay for quality wise - that leather and suede is fucking trash.
This company looks to be marketed towards dudes in their late 20's++, who skate or are into skating and that are willing to pay extra for fair working conditions, sustainability responsibility and quality materials. Maybe they're not for going through 3 pairs a month - maybe they're for using everyday and cruising the streets and skating a little after work, that's how my old ass uses shoes now so this surely caught my interest.
Can't wait to see how this unfolds, I haven't had a skate focused shoe with nice materials since that first run of HUF shoes came out. Damn that suede was butter.
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The orange and midnight blue are pretty fresh. $200 isn’t outrageous if they’re truly well made out of premium materials. They’re obviously not trying to cater to dudes who’ve been skating Etnies Maranas, and they’re not stupid because they will def sell.
The fully lined cow leather is definitely fresh I’ll say that, but like personally it looks too basic to warrant that money regardless of the material. If I’m spending good money on shoes outside of boots and dress shoes then I want them to be fucking out there to a degree. No one wants something that basic looking for $200, I’m sorry. Why do you think a lot of dunks do so good, and they aren’t even close to that expensive before resale. I’m not even talking about skating.
If we are talking about skating, Vans wins J Scott handsdown, and it’s not even fucking close, like not even fucking close. There Vulc sole is the best bar none although it kills your feet to barge a city day long and skate impact, and their new tech for cupsole is definitely as good as anything on the market, plus if you go to their outlets you can buy a shitload for cheap af, and I don’t know about u guys but I fucking destroy skate shoes quick af. So why spend like $100 plus on some dunks or adidas, when you can snag like 3 pairs of quality ass vans for the same price. Not saying I don’t own adidas and Nike skate shoes for fashion, but I don’t skate in them shits. Now if you’re gettin them for free that’s a whole other story, but I’m just sayin for those who pay for there shoes it’s a no brainer imo.
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The orange and midnight blue are pretty fresh. $200 isn’t outrageous if they’re truly well made out of premium materials. They’re obviously not trying to cater to dudes who’ve been skating Etnies Maranas, and they’re not stupid because they will def sell.
The fully lined cow leather is definitely fresh I’ll say that, but like personally it looks too basic to warrant that money regardless of the material. If I’m spending good money on shoes outside of boots and dress shoes then I want them to be fucking out there to a degree. No one wants something that basic looking for $200, I’m sorry. Why do you think a lot of dunks do so good, and they aren’t even close to that expensive before resale. I’m not even talking about skating.
Are you sure? I guess that's why companies like Common Projects, Eytys, Axel Arigato, Diemme, Buscemi, Filippa K, Human Scales, Acne, AMI Paris, Our Legacy, APC etc etc. all have kept basic silhouettes like that in the 200-400$ range that keep selling in Europe.
Maybe it's just a European thing but clean products with an intriguing story and quality materials sell really well here. Good thing they're based where they are.
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The orange and midnight blue are pretty fresh. $200 isn’t outrageous if they’re truly well made out of premium materials. They’re obviously not trying to cater to dudes who’ve been skating Etnies Maranas, and they’re not stupid because they will def sell.
The fully lined cow leather is definitely fresh I’ll say that, but like personally it looks too basic to warrant that money regardless of the material. If I’m spending good money on shoes outside of boots and dress shoes then I want them to be fucking out there to a degree. No one wants something that basic looking for $200, I’m sorry. Why do you think a lot of dunks do so good, and they aren’t even close to that expensive before resale. I’m not even talking about skating.
Are you sure? I guess that's why companies like Common Projects, Eytys, Axel Arigato, Diemme, Buscemi, Filippa K, Human Scales, Acne, AMI Paris, Our Legacy, APC etc etc. all have kept basic silhouettes like that in the 200-400$ range that keep selling in Europe.
Maybe it's just a European thing but clean products with an intriguing story and quality materials sell really well here. Good thing they're based where they are.
I mean I’m not too familiar with European or Asian sneaker culture so I definitely cannot comment on that whatsoever without looking like a dipshit. But if you came to the states and were buying sneakers at say a high end reseller like holy grail, flight club or stadium goods or wherever the fuck you generally see that it’s by and large Nikes, Jordan’s, and adidas/yeezys. There’s definitely some exceptions with some rare converse, vans, revenge(such trash), NB, Puma, etc. but for the most part unless you are talking about like retro Jordan 1s, Air Maxs, AF1s with simple clean colors, for the most part that’s just not the case in the states if we are talking about medium to high end sneaker fashion, in other words spending over like $130 for a pair of shoes.
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I just want it to take fucking Golden Goose down. For all I know those guys are a fraud and they're tackling the exact same market. Would be satisfying to see Pontus win this.
People actually fell for the golden goose bullshit? I thought that was the most obvious ploy of the last decade.
All I know is that shit is still around and some people will buy used ones for quite the price, so they must be doing alright.
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The orange and midnight blue are pretty fresh. $200 isn’t outrageous if they’re truly well made out of premium materials. They’re obviously not trying to cater to dudes who’ve been skating Etnies Maranas, and they’re not stupid because they will def sell.
The fully lined cow leather is definitely fresh I’ll say that, but like personally it looks too basic to warrant that money regardless of the material. If I’m spending good money on shoes outside of boots and dress shoes then I want them to be fucking out there to a degree. No one wants something that basic looking for $200, I’m sorry. Why do you think a lot of dunks do so good, and they aren’t even close to that expensive before resale. I’m not even talking about skating.
Are you sure? I guess that's why companies like Common Projects, Eytys, Axel Arigato, Diemme, Buscemi, Filippa K, Human Scales, Acne, AMI Paris, Our Legacy, APC etc etc. all have kept basic silhouettes like that in the 200-400$ range that keep selling in Europe.
Maybe it's just a European thing but clean products with an intriguing story and quality materials sell really well here. Good thing they're based where they are.
I mean I’m not too familiar with European or Asian sneaker culture so I definitely cannot comment on that whatsoever without looking like a dipshit. But if you came to the states and were buying sneakers at say a high end reseller like holy grail, flight club or stadium goods or wherever the fuck you generally see that it’s by and large Nikes, Jordan’s, and adidas/yeezys. There’s definitely some exceptions with some rare converse, vans, revenge(such trash), NB, Puma, etc. but for the most part unless you are talking about like retro Jordan 1s, Air Maxs, AF1s with simple clean colors, for the most part that’s just not the case in the states if we are talking about medium to high end sneaker fashion, in other words spending over like $130 for a pair of shoes.
I'm well aware, I hate the term "sneaker head" but I guess you could say that's what I am as well. That's kind of the whole point though, sometimes it's just nice to have a good quality sneaker. The Jordan 1's are a great example - how bad is the leather quality of a 170$ retail J1 now? It's laughable, it's easily comparable to a 70$ shoe you get from a random "menswear brand" but that's not why we buy them, is it? There's something else to it. There's a story to the shoes and an identity that come with each model. The shoes themselves are not high quality shoes at all.
Sometimes it's just nice to slip into some small brand quality shit that wasn't sewn by some 12 year old kid and that just feel super nice on your feet. As I get older, I get more hyped on all that stuff and the importance of being a smart consumer (caring about ethics, sustainability, supporting the economy and diversity of smaller brands).
Don't get me wrong, I'll still swear when I don't get those new beginnings j's later this month but I've been cutting down a lot and focusing on other stuff and I'm guessing that's the demographic they're aiming for.
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THESE ARE STILL NOT THE SKATE SHOES GODDAMNIT, THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?
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I back these in white. Interested to see the skate shoes.
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Yeah, they're like a Dunk Lite / Volley. Bordering on looking like a budget kmart kinda shoe, but made well. I kinda love em and think they stink. What a world.
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The orange and midnight blue are pretty fresh. $200 isn’t outrageous if they’re truly well made out of premium materials. They’re obviously not trying to cater to dudes who’ve been skating Etnies Maranas, and they’re not stupid because they will def sell.
The fully lined cow leather is definitely fresh I’ll say that, but like personally it looks too basic to warrant that money regardless of the material. If I’m spending good money on shoes outside of boots and dress shoes then I want them to be fucking out there to a degree. No one wants something that basic looking for $200, I’m sorry. Why do you think a lot of dunks do so good, and they aren’t even close to that expensive before resale. I’m not even talking about skating.
Are you sure? I guess that's why companies like Common Projects, Eytys, Axel Arigato, Diemme, Buscemi, Filippa K, Human Scales, Acne, AMI Paris, Our Legacy, APC etc etc. all have kept basic silhouettes like that in the 200-400$ range that keep selling in Europe.
Maybe it's just a European thing but clean products with an intriguing story and quality materials sell really well here. Good thing they're based where they are.
I mean I’m not too familiar with European or Asian sneaker culture so I definitely cannot comment on that whatsoever without looking like a dipshit. But if you came to the states and were buying sneakers at say a high end reseller like holy grail, flight club or stadium goods or wherever the fuck you generally see that it’s by and large Nikes, Jordan’s, and adidas/yeezys. There’s definitely some exceptions with some rare converse, vans, revenge(such trash), NB, Puma, etc. but for the most part unless you are talking about like retro Jordan 1s, Air Maxs, AF1s with simple clean colors, for the most part that’s just not the case in the states if we are talking about medium to high end sneaker fashion, in other words spending over like $130 for a pair of shoes.
I'm well aware, I hate the term "sneaker head" but I guess you could say that's what I am as well. That's kind of the whole point though, sometimes it's just nice to have a good quality sneaker. The Jordan 1's are a great example - how bad is the leather quality of a 170$ retail J1 now? It's laughable, it's easily comparable to a 70$ shoe you get from a random "menswear brand" but that's not why we buy them, is it? There's something else to it. There's a story to the shoes and an identity that come with each model. The shoes themselves are not high quality shoes at all.
Sometimes it's just nice to slip into some small brand quality shit that wasn't sewn by some 12 year old kid and that just feel super nice on your feet. As I get older, I get more hyped on all that stuff and the importance of being a smart consumer (caring about ethics, sustainability, supporting the economy and diversity of smaller brands).
Don't get me wrong, I'll still swear when I don't get those new beginnings j's later this month but I've been cutting down a lot and focusing on other stuff and I'm guessing that's the demographic they're aiming for.
I don’t like the term sneaker head either. I think sneaker collector is much better. I totally agree that the narrative of the shoe is almost as important as the shoe, which is why I enjoy picking certain shoes. My favorite pair of sneakers I have are the Lebron what the 16s purely because if you know Lebron’s shoes it contains everything he ever did unique in one shoe. The asymmetry, all his different logos, the cheetah print, the sole to his first shoe in the one, etc. much like how I feel about the Jordan 20s or the what the dunks or even P-Rods most recent dunk that I’m fucking pissed I couldn’t snag. Personally The only two types of sneakers I rock are skateboarding sneakers and basketball sneakers. When it comes to skate shoes I prefer the vans collabs just for the narrative of the shoe, and adidas for just a simplistic nice design shoe, these would be my clean ones per se. I think Nike SB sucks ass for the most part except for the rare pair of blazers and dunks that I dig. I’m not a huge dunk fan, but some dunks are literally some of my favorite shoes of all time. I don’t care for Cons, never cared for any sole tech shoe, never cared for lakai, and pretty much any other skate shoe brand out there they had in yesteryear. I will say Gravis was incredible, and the oxblood Dylan’s are prolly the greatest skate shoe ever for appearance. The Dylan’s on HUF were fantastic as well even if they weren’t as good as the Gravis versions.
Also if you get your hands on those new beginnings that would be insane G.
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So the brand was called 3-3-20 for two years and now they are a skate shoe company called Last Resort AB starting on 3-3-20? Is that coincidence or what? What was Pontus' connection to the company previously? It's supposedly skater owned now so does that mean the old company was as well or did Pontus take over? What the hell does the AB stand for? I have so many questions.
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The orange and midnight blue are pretty fresh. $200 isn’t outrageous if they’re truly well made out of premium materials. They’re obviously not trying to cater to dudes who’ve been skating Etnies Maranas, and they’re not stupid because they will def sell.
The fully lined cow leather is definitely fresh I’ll say that, but like personally it looks too basic to warrant that money regardless of the material. If I’m spending good money on shoes outside of boots and dress shoes then I want them to be fucking out there to a degree. No one wants something that basic looking for $200, I’m sorry. Why do you think a lot of dunks do so good, and they aren’t even close to that expensive before resale. I’m not even talking about skating.
Are you sure? I guess that's why companies like Common Projects, Eytys, Axel Arigato, Diemme, Buscemi, Filippa K, Human Scales, Acne, AMI Paris, Our Legacy, APC etc etc. all have kept basic silhouettes like that in the 200-400$ range that keep selling in Europe.
Maybe it's just a European thing but clean products with an intriguing story and quality materials sell really well here. Good thing they're based where they are.
I mean I’m not too familiar with European or Asian sneaker culture so I definitely cannot comment on that whatsoever without looking like a dipshit. But if you came to the states and were buying sneakers at say a high end reseller like holy grail, flight club or stadium goods or wherever the fuck you generally see that it’s by and large Nikes, Jordan’s, and adidas/yeezys. There’s definitely some exceptions with some rare converse, vans, revenge(such trash), NB, Puma, etc. but for the most part unless you are talking about like retro Jordan 1s, Air Maxs, AF1s with simple clean colors, for the most part that’s just not the case in the states if we are talking about medium to high end sneaker fashion, in other words spending over like $130 for a pair of shoes.
I'm well aware, I hate the term "sneaker head" but I guess you could say that's what I am as well. That's kind of the whole point though, sometimes it's just nice to have a good quality sneaker. The Jordan 1's are a great example - how bad is the leather quality of a 170$ retail J1 now? It's laughable, it's easily comparable to a 70$ shoe you get from a random "menswear brand" but that's not why we buy them, is it? There's something else to it. There's a story to the shoes and an identity that come with each model. The shoes themselves are not high quality shoes at all.
Sometimes it's just nice to slip into some small brand quality shit that wasn't sewn by some 12 year old kid and that just feel super nice on your feet. As I get older, I get more hyped on all that stuff and the importance of being a smart consumer (caring about ethics, sustainability, supporting the economy and diversity of smaller brands).
Don't get me wrong, I'll still swear when I don't get those new beginnings j's later this month but I've been cutting down a lot and focusing on other stuff and I'm guessing that's the demographic they're aiming for.
I don’t like the term sneaker head either. I think sneaker collector is much better. I totally agree that the narrative of the shoe is almost as important as the shoe, which is why I enjoy picking certain shoes. My favorite pair of sneakers I have are the Lebron what the 16s purely because if you know Lebron’s shoes it contains everything he ever did unique in one shoe. The asymmetry, all his different logos, the cheetah print, the sole to his first shoe in the one, etc. much like how I feel about the Jordan 20s or the what the dunks or even P-Rods most recent dunk that I’m fucking pissed I couldn’t snag. Personally The only two types of sneakers I rock are skateboarding sneakers and basketball sneakers. When it comes to skate shoes I prefer the vans collabs just for the narrative of the shoe, and adidas for just a simplistic nice design shoe, these would be my clean ones per se. I think Nike SB sucks ass for the most part except for the rare pair of blazers and dunks that I dig. I’m not a huge dunk fan, but some dunks are literally some of my favorite shoes of all time. I don’t care for Cons, never cared for any sole tech shoe, never cared for lakai, and pretty much any other skate shoe brand out there they had in yesteryear. I will say Gravis was incredible, and the oxblood Dylan’s are prolly the greatest skate shoe ever for appearance. The Dylan’s on HUF were fantastic as well even if they weren’t as good as the Gravis versions.
Also if you get your hands on those new beginnings that would be insane G.
while I completely agree with you, reading this just felt like overhearing a conversation at a skateshop on a dunk release day / pre-release raffle day lmao
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So the brand was called 3-3-20 for two years and now they are a skate shoe company called Last Resort AB starting on 3-3-20? Is that coincidence or what? What was Pontus' connection to the company previously? It's supposedly skater owned now so does that mean the old company was as well or did Pontus take over? What the hell does the AB stand for? I have so many questions.
AB = Aktiebolag = corporation, stock corporation, limited company.
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AB is "aktiebolag" in Swedish. So in english, kind of like "corporation" or "LLC".
The guys running this are old skaters trying to create the next Axel Arigato, Common Projects- type of premium sneaker brand it seems like. You americans would be amazed at how much people spend on non Nike/Adidas- sneakers here in Scandinavia. Look at the prices of Acne or Eytys sneakers for example.
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I just want it to take fucking Golden Goose down. For all I know those guys are a fraud and they're tackling the exact same market. Would be satisfying to see Pontus win this.
People actually fell for the golden goose bullshit? I thought that was the most obvious ploy of the last decade.
All I know is that shit is still around and some people will buy used ones for quite the price, so they must be doing alright.
which is hilarious considering that they look used when you pull them out of the box
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So the brand was called 3-3-20 for two years and now they are a skate shoe company called Last Resort AB starting on 3-3-20? Is that coincidence or what? What was Pontus' connection to the company previously? It's supposedly skater owned now so does that mean the old company was as well or did Pontus take over? What the hell does the AB stand for? I have so many questions.
maybe Puleo could solve this numerological mystery for us, some one PM him the facts like a man
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I just want it to take fucking Golden Goose down. For all I know those guys are a fraud and they're tackling the exact same market. Would be satisfying to see Pontus win this.
People actually fell for the golden goose bullshit? I thought that was the most obvious ploy of the last decade.
All I know is that shit is still around and some people will buy used ones for quite the price, so they must be doing alright.
which is hilarious considering that they look used when you pull them out of the box
Yeah I was thinking that too. Another reason for resellers to lower their standards and mark their prices up, if anything. "Condition: better than new".
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The orange and midnight blue are pretty fresh. $200 isn’t outrageous if they’re truly well made out of premium materials. They’re obviously not trying to cater to dudes who’ve been skating Etnies Maranas, and they’re not stupid because they will def sell.
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I don’t like the term sneaker head either. I think sneaker collector is much better. I totally agree that the narrative of the shoe is almost as important as the shoe, which is why I enjoy picking certain shoes. My favorite pair of sneakers I have are the Lebron what the 16s purely because if you know Lebron’s shoes it contains everything he ever did unique in one shoe. The asymmetry, all his different logos, the cheetah print, the sole to his first shoe in the one, etc. much like how I feel about the Jordan 20s or the what the dunks or even P-Rods most recent dunk that I’m fucking pissed I couldn’t snag. Personally The only two types of sneakers I rock are skateboarding sneakers and basketball sneakers. When it comes to skate shoes I prefer the vans collabs just for the narrative of the shoe, and adidas for just a simplistic nice design shoe, these would be my clean ones per se. I think Nike SB sucks ass for the most part except for the rare pair of blazers and dunks that I dig. I’m not a huge dunk fan, but some dunks are literally some of my favorite shoes of all time. I don’t care for Cons, never cared for any sole tech shoe, never cared for lakai, and pretty much any other skate shoe brand out there they had in yesteryear. I will say Gravis was incredible, and the oxblood Dylan’s are prolly the greatest skate shoe ever for appearance. The Dylan’s on HUF were fantastic as well even if they weren’t as good as the Gravis versions.
Also if you get your hands on those new beginnings that would be insane G.
Weird since messageboards are made for arguing (ha) but I agree with pretty much all of this, although I'm not as deeply rooted in basketball since it wasn't that big in Europe growing up... I appreciate it now though.
Gravis is a great example of what I hope this company can be product wise but with even nicer materials, they were really solid. I still have a pair of those Oxblood Dylans new in a box, I could never make myself use them... Weren't they 120$ retail? I had a bunch of suede ones that felt so good and the leather on the oxbloods is so nice too, definitely worth the higher price tag just like I hope these Last Resort kicks to be.
As far as the design goes, I think maybe I like them more because the first time I saw the white ones I imagined Scott Johnston doing a frontside tailslide with no socks in a pair and that feeling kinda stuck.
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Fuck dude i hope this kicks off skater owned shoe companies coming back
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In the new shoe section, Pontus responded to a slap pal and said there will be a skate shoe for under 100.00 on release day. All the stuff previously isn't for skating.
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In the new shoe section, Pontus responded to a slap pal and said there will be a skate shoe for under 100.00 on release day. All the stuff previously isn't for skating.
Screengrab of pontus story with that info was posted on page 1 of this thread, he replies to this thread using monkeys palsquestions instagram handle slap_pals.
Also, the 'stuff previously' was designed by a skater, using classic skate (able) silhouettes and features (laceprotection), with a product description that calls for 'creative reinterpretation'. To me that sounds like skating was atleast present in the creative/thought process.
Only thing that makes the revious ones 'not a skate shoe' is the price, we can't tell anything about quality yet
Overall; nice try but weak post
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Why are so many people upset about this company being created? First of all, it has been mentioned several times that a 100$ shoe will be released, which isn't outrageous by any means if it's a quality shoe made in Europe. Anyone who has been buying dunks or other 100$ skate shoes lately will probably back me up when I say that you sure as fuck aren't getting what you pay for quality wise - that leather and suede is fucking trash.
This company looks to be marketed towards dudes in their late 20's++, who skate or are into skating and that are willing to pay extra for fair working conditions, sustainability responsibility and quality materials. Maybe they're not for going through 3 pairs a month - maybe they're for using everyday and cruising the streets and skating a little after work, that's how my old ass uses shoes now so this surely caught my interest.
Can't wait to see how this unfolds, I haven't had a skate focused shoe with nice materials since that first run of HUF shoes came out. Damn that suede was butter.
Fucking thank you. Jesus. I was losing my mind reading some of the hate/‘just buy a $40 Reebok’.
I would absolutely like to pay a bit more, for something that’s created in a kinder environment, and is (hopefully) better made.
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So the brand was called 3-3-20 for two years and now they are a skate shoe company called Last Resort AB starting on 3-3-20? Is that coincidence or what? What was Pontus' connection to the company previously? It's supposedly skater owned now so does that mean the old company was as well or did Pontus take over? What the hell does the AB stand for? I have so many questions.
Sami who started it is an OG sthlm skater. Rode for Vans back in the days, probably something more but that is what I remember. Sweden is kinda small, and all the older heads from Malmö, Gothenburg, and Stockholm basically all know each other or have meet each other on many occasions.
And comparing this to Jordans etc, is really missing the point. As pointed out, In Europe the clean high.end silhouettes sell really well. Mind that shoes in general is more expensive here as well. I just bought a par of Veja V10´s for 150$, and that is a large upscale company. I Used to buy Acne sneakers, around 210$, before they reaised the price to 300. This is a one man operation basically, small scale shoes made in Portugal with pretty exclusive materials. Ive been itching to see them live and probably buy a pair to support. That was before Pontus jumping on though.
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Not for your average Slap head in Dickies and Half Cabs but I can see the market for this. I know a dude who has all the Common Projects in all the colors and those are like $400, I think.
I'd rather buy Wallabees, some Gazelles to chill in, a pair of skate shoes, and a deck but whatever. Can't knock the hustle.
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So the brand was called 3-3-20 for two years and now they are a skate shoe company called Last Resort AB starting on 3-3-20? Is that coincidence or what? What was Pontus' connection to the company previously? It's supposedly skater owned now so does that mean the old company was as well or did Pontus take over? What the hell does the AB stand for? I have so many questions.
Sami who started it is an OG sthlm skater. Rode for Vans back in the days, probably something more but that is what I remember. Sweden is kinda small, and all the older heads from Malmö, Gothenburg, and Stockholm basically all know each other or have meet each other on many occasions.
And comparing this to Jordans etc, is really missing the point. As pointed out, In Europe the clean high.end silhouettes sell really well. Mind that shoes in general is more expensive here as well. I just bought a par of Veja V10´s for 150$, and that is a large upscale company. I Used to buy Acne sneakers, around 210$, before they reaised the price to 300. This is a one man operation basically, small scale shoes made in Portugal with pretty exclusive materials. Ive been itching to see them live and probably buy a pair to support. That was before Pontus jumping on though.
Would that decrease the hype for you? I saw someone being bummed on Pontus earlier in this thread - did I miss something? Does Slap not love him anymore? What did he do?
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Not for your average Slap head in Dickies and Half Cabs but I can see the market for this. I know a dude who has all the Common Projects in all the colors and those are like $400, I think.
I'd rather buy Wallabees, some Gazelles to chill in, a pair of skate shoes, and a deck but whatever. Can't knock the hustle.
I mean wallabees are the best. But....not great for skating.
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So the brand was called 3-3-20 for two years and now they are a skate shoe company called Last Resort AB starting on 3-3-20? Is that coincidence or what? What was Pontus' connection to the company previously? It's supposedly skater owned now so does that mean the old company was as well or did Pontus take over? What the hell does the AB stand for? I have so many questions.
Sami who started it is an OG sthlm skater. Rode for Vans back in the days, probably something more but that is what I remember. Sweden is kinda small, and all the older heads from Malmö, Gothenburg, and Stockholm basically all know each other or have meet each other on many occasions.
And comparing this to Jordans etc, is really missing the point. As pointed out, In Europe the clean high.end silhouettes sell really well. Mind that shoes in general is more expensive here as well. I just bought a par of Veja V10´s for 150$, and that is a large upscale company. I Used to buy Acne sneakers, around 210$, before they reaised the price to 300. This is a one man operation basically, small scale shoes made in Portugal with pretty exclusive materials. Ive been itching to see them live and probably buy a pair to support. That was before Pontus jumping on though.
Would that decrease the hype for you? I saw someone being bummed on Pontus earlier in this thread - did I miss something? Does Slap not love him anymore? What did he do?
Well Pontus is not exactly especially friendly, and is quite known for that. As for me.. I rode for the largest skateshop in Sweden, the OG team with EJP and Björn who is owner of Sour. Pontus got in the team - he had one condition though. Kick me of the team. Bear in mind I always been nice to him, never had any beef or so, so not sure why. He rode quite short on the team, had a beef with the owner and left. As you might understand, dudes not my cup of Tea..
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So the brand was called 3-3-20 for two years and now they are a skate shoe company called Last Resort AB starting on 3-3-20? Is that coincidence or what? What was Pontus' connection to the company previously? It's supposedly skater owned now so does that mean the old company was as well or did Pontus take over? What the hell does the AB stand for? I have so many questions.
Sami who started it is an OG sthlm skater. Rode for Vans back in the days, probably something more but that is what I remember. Sweden is kinda small, and all the older heads from Malmö, Gothenburg, and Stockholm basically all know each other or have meet each other on many occasions.
And comparing this to Jordans etc, is really missing the point. As pointed out, In Europe the clean high.end silhouettes sell really well. Mind that shoes in general is more expensive here as well. I just bought a par of Veja V10´s for 150$, and that is a large upscale company. I Used to buy Acne sneakers, around 210$, before they reaised the price to 300. This is a one man operation basically, small scale shoes made in Portugal with pretty exclusive materials. Ive been itching to see them live and probably buy a pair to support. That was before Pontus jumping on though.
Would that decrease the hype for you? I saw someone being bummed on Pontus earlier in this thread - did I miss something? Does Slap not love him anymore? What did he do?
Well Pontus is not exactly especially friendly, and is quite known for that. As for me.. I rode for the largest skateshop in Sweden, the OG team with EJP and Björn who is owner of Sour. Pontus got in the team - he had one condition though. Kick me of the team. Bear in mind I always been nice to him, never had any beef or so, so not sure why. He rode quite short on the team, had a beef with the owner and left. As you might understand, dudes not my cup of Tea..
I see, but that seems more personal than anything but definitely a bummer.. What shop was it? Junkyard? I also wonder why dudes on here who might not have met him writes shit about him
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B77BcvsAt7_/
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The sole is a jab on Cons?
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well, well, well
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actually, im kind of stoked. for starters, i think its tight that he is trying a big shoe company on its own out of europe and I would not have thought anybody (with his possible impact, as polar and pontus is huge in europe) trying to compete with the big 3 (4) corporations.
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So the brand was called 3-3-20 for two years and now they are a skate shoe company called Last Resort AB starting on 3-3-20? Is that coincidence or what? What was Pontus' connection to the company previously? It's supposedly skater owned now so does that mean the old company was as well or did Pontus take over? What the hell does the AB stand for? I have so many questions.
Sami who started it is an OG sthlm skater. Rode for Vans back in the days, probably something more but that is what I remember. Sweden is kinda small, and all the older heads from Malmö, Gothenburg, and Stockholm basically all know each other or have meet each other on many occasions.
And comparing this to Jordans etc, is really missing the point. As pointed out, In Europe the clean high.end silhouettes sell really well. Mind that shoes in general is more expensive here as well. I just bought a par of Veja V10´s for 150$, and that is a large upscale company. I Used to buy Acne sneakers, around 210$, before they reaised the price to 300. This is a one man operation basically, small scale shoes made in Portugal with pretty exclusive materials. Ive been itching to see them live and probably buy a pair to support. That was before Pontus jumping on though.
Would that decrease the hype for you? I saw someone being bummed on Pontus earlier in this thread - did I miss something? Does Slap not love him anymore? What did he do?
Well Pontus is not exactly especially friendly, and is quite known for that. As for me.. I rode for the largest skateshop in Sweden, the OG team with EJP and Björn who is owner of Sour. Pontus got in the team - he had one condition though. Kick me of the team. Bear in mind I always been nice to him, never had any beef or so, so not sure why. He rode quite short on the team, had a beef with the owner and left. As you might understand, dudes not my cup of Tea..
I see, but that seems more personal than anything but definitely a bummer.. What shop was it? Junkyard? I also wonder why dudes on here who might not have met him writes shit about him
Growing up skating in Malmö i hated skating the same park as Pontus, he snakes people, charges full speed with no respect for anyone else, screaming at the top of his lungs at kids(kids, not teenagers) etc.. Cant deny his skating and legacy tho he has done alot for the swedish skate scene but hes a bit of a dick.
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So the brand was called 3-3-20 for two years and now they are a skate shoe company called Last Resort AB starting on 3-3-20? Is that coincidence or what? What was Pontus' connection to the company previously? It's supposedly skater owned now so does that mean the old company was as well or did Pontus take over? What the hell does the AB stand for? I have so many questions.
Sami who started it is an OG sthlm skater. Rode for Vans back in the days, probably something more but that is what I remember. Sweden is kinda small, and all the older heads from Malmö, Gothenburg, and Stockholm basically all know each other or have meet each other on many occasions.
And comparing this to Jordans etc, is really missing the point. As pointed out, In Europe the clean high.end silhouettes sell really well. Mind that shoes in general is more expensive here as well. I just bought a par of Veja V10´s for 150$, and that is a large upscale company. I Used to buy Acne sneakers, around 210$, before they reaised the price to 300. This is a one man operation basically, small scale shoes made in Portugal with pretty exclusive materials. Ive been itching to see them live and probably buy a pair to support. That was before Pontus jumping on though.
Would that decrease the hype for you? I saw someone being bummed on Pontus earlier in this thread - did I miss something? Does Slap not love him anymore? What did he do?
Well Pontus is not exactly especially friendly, and is quite known for that. As for me.. I rode for the largest skateshop in Sweden, the OG team with EJP and Björn who is owner of Sour. Pontus got in the team - he had one condition though. Kick me of the team. Bear in mind I always been nice to him, never had any beef or so, so not sure why. He rode quite short on the team, had a beef with the owner and left. As you might understand, dudes not my cup of Tea..
I see, but that seems more personal than anything but definitely a bummer.. What shop was it? Junkyard? I also wonder why dudes on here who might not have met him writes shit about him
Junkyard yes. And of course its personal. Buy its also a general opinion of any one whos been around him.
Here is a classic Pontus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTJO5y9KpWk
The clip is an old skatecompetition in the old skatepark where im from- superfun event, bit unorganized, people a bit drunk but an amazing fun time and people loved it. They do a interview with an OG skater, Magnus, who is going of how great it was, and it doesnt need to be superorganized, and everyone is pumped etc. then simultaneously they interview Pontus, who is complaining about everything, how bad it was organized, bad judges etc. Im the guy winning the senior. Björn getting 3rd in juniors is the guy running Sour. Ali is in it in when he was into Penny as well :)
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I like how he complains about the skate shoe industry after years of taking money from cons and doing collabs with nike.
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I like how he complains about the skate shoe industry after years of taking money from cons and doing collabs with nike.
Was thinking the same thing. Cons and Nike collabs funded this shit. But then you get into the whole "selling out" argument. It's a hard line to draw. Sometimes you need help from people you don't agree with to make shit happen. I'm really torn on the whole big shoe companies in skateboarding issue. I don't like them personally, but they do give a lot of people the ability to make a living off skateboarding that wouldn't have otherwise. It's a tough one. I'm trying to stay away from the big companies as long as possible.
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If you look at the image on the side of the shoe box and the pile of shoes, it looks like the skate shoe is gonna look just like this without the V....
(https://i1.wp.com/skateboarding.transworld.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/SP18_Skate_EpochSportProLTD_VN0A3TE3RCN_KheNvy_Pair.jpg.jpeg?w=1200&ssl=1)
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I like how he complains about the skate shoe industry after years of taking money from cons and doing collabs with nike.
Was thinking the same thing. Cons and Nike collabs funded this shit. But then you get into the whole "selling out" argument. It's a hard line to draw. Sometimes you need help from people you don't agree with to make shit happen. I'm really torn on the whole big shoe companies in skateboarding issue. I don't like them personally, but they do give a lot of people the ability to make a living off skateboarding that wouldn't have otherwise. It's a tough one. I'm trying to stay away from the big companies as long as possible.
Honestly, I can't recall Pontus ever being shy regarding his Robin Hood intentions. He's always been pretty vocal about his stance on big corporations in skateboarding and its overall direction in general. Polar got back to being run independently again months, if not one or two years before people even realized Pontus was off Cons (and Carhartt) because the image of his affiliation was so strong. But no one not new to skating around the time Polar came about should have reasonably thought the dude was actually into those deals for anything but resources to invest back.
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I like how he complains about the skate shoe industry after years of taking money from cons and doing collabs with nike.
Was thinking the same thing. Cons and Nike collabs funded this shit. But then you get into the whole "selling out" argument. It's a hard line to draw. Sometimes you need help from people you don't agree with to make shit happen. I'm really torn on the whole big shoe companies in skateboarding issue. I don't like them personally, but they do give a lot of people the ability to make a living off skateboarding that wouldn't have otherwise. It's a tough one. I'm trying to stay away from the big companies as long as possible.
Honestly, I can't recall Pontus ever being shy regarding his Robin Hood intentions. He's always been pretty vocal about his stance on big corporations in skateboarding and its overall direction in general. Polar got back to being run independently again months, if not one or two years before people even realized Pontus was off Cons (and Carhartt) because the image of his affiliation was so strong. But no one not new to skating around the time Polar came about should have reasonably thought the dude was actually into those deals for anything but resources to invest back.
That's what's up, good to know. Can't really hate on a guy for taking advantage of the big dudes to do some grassroots shit.
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Hey in case anyone is wondering about the story behind the 3-3-20 brand, here's an article:
The Inside Story of Street-Inspired Footwear Brand 3-3-20
Just a random number or signs of the Illuminati? Interview with 3-3-20 footwear mastermind Sami Tolppi.
https://illpaper.com/sneaker-footwear-brand-3-3-20/
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I hope he is going to push on that "ethical" argument and make a decent vegan skate shoe.
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imagine pontus too busy coming up with shoe designs sitting in the attic of his porto mansion to attend his own eyes wide shut themed orgy happening downstairs
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I really hope they something similar to this cupsole.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0064/0040/9667/products/3-3-20-64615_1296x.jpg?v=1567193322)
Really clean model. If I wasn't on a shopping hiatus I would snag some of these to chill in.
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As for if it’s a skate shoe brand or not... product description just says:
The functionality and purpose of the shoe is determined by the end user and context. Re-interpretation is highly encouraged and at the core of our design philosophy.
Lol what. "ey are these shoes any good?" "that's totally up to you bro!"
If they're doing some decent priced skate shoes then I'm down with them making fancy shit to sell to upriver types to keep them going. Will be interesting to see
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The orange and midnight blue are pretty fresh. $200 isn’t outrageous if they’re truly well made out of premium materials. They’re obviously not trying to cater to dudes who’ve been skating Etnies Maranas, and they’re not stupid because they will def sell.
The fully lined cow leather is definitely fresh I’ll say that, but like personally it looks too basic to warrant that money regardless of the material. If I’m spending good money on shoes outside of boots and dress shoes then I want them to be fucking out there to a degree. No one wants something that basic looking for $200, I’m sorry. Why do you think a lot of dunks do so good, and they aren’t even close to that expensive before resale. I’m not even talking about skating.
If we are talking about skating, Vans wins J Scott handsdown, and it’s not even fucking close, like not even fucking close. There Vulc sole is the best bar none although it kills your feet to barge a city day long and skate impact, and their new tech for cupsole is definitely as good as anything on the market, plus if you go to their outlets you can buy a shitload for cheap af, and I don’t know about u guys but I fucking destroy skate shoes quick af. So why spend like $100 plus on some dunks or adidas, when you can snag like 3 pairs of quality ass vans for the same price. Not saying I don’t own adidas and Nike skate shoes for fashion, but I don’t skate in them shits. Now if you’re gettin them for free that’s a whole other story, but I’m just sayin for those who pay for there shoes it’s a no brainer imo.
I feel like you have a very narrow view of what people are willing to pay for designer sneakers and what they want them to look like based only on your preferences. As many people said, there are a lot of people willing to pay a lot for basic sneakers designed by big brands.
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On the one hand, I get it and we have all skated around this type of person, but also “Pontus snaked me in 1994 and was a loud teenager” is maybe the most diaper baby bullshit I’ve read on here in a long time.
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Pussys butthurt cause he is an ass..who cares . Wearing Nike shoes who knows what kind of people are involved in those etc. Don’t buy them .end of story. If he doesn’t make hi top I’m not buying as well mayne
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imagine pontus too busy coming up with shoe designs sitting in the attic of his porto mansion to attend his own eyes wide shut themed orgy happening downstairs
if an orgy is eyes wide shut themed, does that just make it an eyes wide shut orgy or is still considered a themed orgy?
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Why are so many people upset about this company being created? First of all, it has been mentioned several times that a 100$ shoe will be released, which isn't outrageous by any means if it's a quality shoe made in Europe. Anyone who has been buying dunks or other 100$ skate shoes lately will probably back me up when I say that you sure as fuck aren't getting what you pay for quality wise - that leather and suede is fucking trash.
This company looks to be marketed towards dudes in their late 20's++, who skate or are into skating and that are willing to pay extra for fair working conditions, sustainability responsibility and quality materials. Maybe they're not for going through 3 pairs a month - maybe they're for using everyday and cruising the streets and skating a little after work, that's how my old ass uses shoes now so this surely caught my interest.
Can't wait to see how this unfolds, I haven't had a skate focused shoe with nice materials since that first run of HUF shoes came out. Damn that suede was butter.
Fucking thank you. Jesus. I was losing my mind reading some of the hate/‘just buy a $40 Reebok’.
I would absolutely like to pay a bit more, for something that’s created in a kinder environment, and is (hopefully) better made.
Depends what you mean homie. I completely agree with you if we are talking straight fashion. I spend absurd amounts of money on shoes and clothes because I make good money and don’t like buying cars and don’t like the mobility of owning a house. Like I’m not saying shit in that fucking regards go spend your money to look however you feel, I would never say that. I’m just saying personally as a sneaker collector I’m not ever gonna spend my money on a $200 pair of GENERIC ass looking shoes like that. It’s your money, go spend it how you fucking please.
In regards to skating though are you fucking kidding me? I don’t know about y’all but I go through a pair of shoes in 20 sessions maximum, usually the soles start falling thru the bottom of the shoes. Why the fuck would I even want to pay $100 for a shoe then? Like i spend $170-$200 on shoes I plan to keep for years, so like why spend half that money if it lasts me less then a fucking month. Like I have money to spend on shoes, but that’s kind of s worthless as investment even if the shoes look better then others. Over here in the United States you can grab a pair of vans from an outlet mall for like $25-$30 for a classic silhouette like the high top, slip on, era, etc. and $40 for a pro shoe. Now obviously that shafts over the shops because I know they can’t sell Vans that cheaply or shoes that cheap in general to make a buck which sucks. This is why I think it’s funny y’all fuckers talking shit on Nike and Adidas. In America unless you buy shit online you can’t buy adidas skate shoes and Nike skate shoes outside of core shops, which drives there business. This is why I buy fashion skate shoes from shops to help them out, but buy cheap vans from the outlets to actually skate in. You can talk shit all you want, but the ethics of it are more complex then some of y’all want to make it out to be.
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Why are so many people upset about this company being created? First of all, it has been mentioned several times that a 100$ shoe will be released, which isn't outrageous by any means if it's a quality shoe made in Europe. Anyone who has been buying dunks or other 100$ skate shoes lately will probably back me up when I say that you sure as fuck aren't getting what you pay for quality wise - that leather and suede is fucking trash.
This company looks to be marketed towards dudes in their late 20's++, who skate or are into skating and that are willing to pay extra for fair working conditions, sustainability responsibility and quality materials. Maybe they're not for going through 3 pairs a month - maybe they're for using everyday and cruising the streets and skating a little after work, that's how my old ass uses shoes now so this surely caught my interest.
Can't wait to see how this unfolds, I haven't had a skate focused shoe with nice materials since that first run of HUF shoes came out. Damn that suede was butter.
Fucking thank you. Jesus. I was losing my mind reading some of the hate/‘just buy a $40 Reebok’.
I would absolutely like to pay a bit more, for something that’s created in a kinder environment, and is (hopefully) better made.
Depends what you mean homie. I completely agree with you if we are talking straight fashion. I spend absurd amounts of money on shoes and clothes because I make good money and don’t like buying cars and don’t like the mobility of owning a house. Like I’m not saying shit in that fucking regards go spend your money to look however you feel, I would never say that. I’m just saying personally as a sneaker collector I’m not ever gonna spend my money on a $200 pair of GENERIC ass looking shoes like that. It’s your money, go spend it how you fucking please.
In regards to skating though are you fucking kidding me? I don’t know about y’all but I go through a pair of shoes in 20 sessions maximum, usually the soles start falling thru the bottom of the shoes. Why the fuck would I even want to pay $100 for a shoe then? Like i spend $170-$200 on shoes I plan to keep for years, so like why spend half that money if it lasts me less then a fucking month. Like I have money to spend on shoes, but that’s kind of s worthless as investment even if the shoes look better then others. Over here in the United States you can grab a pair of vans from an outlet mall for like $25-$30 for a classic silhouette like the high top, slip on, era, etc. and $40 for a pro shoe. Now obviously that shafts over the shops because I know they can’t sell Vans that cheaply or shoes that cheap in general to make a buck which sucks. This is why I think it’s funny y’all fuckers talking shit on Nike and Adidas. In America unless you buy shit online you can’t buy adidas skate shoes and Nike skate shoes outside of core shops, which drives there business. This is why I buy fashion skate shoes from shops to help them out, but buy cheap vans from the outlets to actually skate in. You can talk shit all you want, but the ethics of it are more complex then some of y’all want to make it out to be.
he literally addressed that in the post you're replying to
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cheetah trying to make a post without performing autofallatio...
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cheetah trying to make a post without performing autofallatio...
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Thank you for this, it made my day brighter :)
Although please explain how I’m blowing myself, I wish I still could blow myself, I used to be able to when I was younger, i have good dick, and had flexible back. But after growing up and taking enough bails that back can’t handle it anymore.
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Was the chorus of that second song repeating “sorry about your penis”? That’s sick if it was
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Poontus is silly. The only polar board I ever had was an 8.5 on the nose and tapered to 8.2 on the tail. I bought it without thinking cause they were new at my local and no one noticed the taper until i gripped it. Needless to say I snapped it which is very rare and I didnt enjoy its lifespan all that much.
Beyond that, his artwork is contrived. The shoe logo is basically some cropped krooked eyes
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Not for your average Slap head in Dickies and Half Cabs but I can see the market for this. I know a dude who has all the Common Projects in all the colors and those are like $400, I think.
I'd rather buy Wallabees, some Gazelles to chill in, a pair of skate shoes, and a deck but whatever. Can't knock the hustle.
yeah people jizz for those condom projects shoes
these shoes be skate shoes for the distinguished gentleman
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Why are so many people upset about this company being created? First of all, it has been mentioned several times that a 100$ shoe will be released, which isn't outrageous by any means if it's a quality shoe made in Europe. Anyone who has been buying dunks or other 100$ skate shoes lately will probably back me up when I say that you sure as fuck aren't getting what you pay for quality wise - that leather and suede is fucking trash.
This company looks to be marketed towards dudes in their late 20's++, who skate or are into skating and that are willing to pay extra for fair working conditions, sustainability responsibility and quality materials. Maybe they're not for going through 3 pairs a month - maybe they're for using everyday and cruising the streets and skating a little after work, that's how my old ass uses shoes now so this surely caught my interest.
Can't wait to see how this unfolds, I haven't had a skate focused shoe with nice materials since that first run of HUF shoes came out. Damn that suede was butter.
Fucking thank you. Jesus. I was losing my mind reading some of the hate/‘just buy a $40 Reebok’.
I would absolutely like to pay a bit more, for something that’s created in a kinder environment, and is (hopefully) better made.
Depends what you mean homie. I completely agree with you if we are talking straight fashion. I spend absurd amounts of money on shoes and clothes because I make good money and don’t like buying cars and don’t like the mobility of owning a house. Like I’m not saying shit in that fucking regards go spend your money to look however you feel, I would never say that. I’m just saying personally as a sneaker collector I’m not ever gonna spend my money on a $200 pair of GENERIC ass looking shoes like that. It’s your money, go spend it how you fucking please.
In regards to skating though are you fucking kidding me? I don’t know about y’all but I go through a pair of shoes in 20 sessions maximum, usually the soles start falling thru the bottom of the shoes. Why the fuck would I even want to pay $100 for a shoe then? Like i spend $170-$200 on shoes I plan to keep for years, so like why spend half that money if it lasts me less then a fucking month. Like I have money to spend on shoes, but that’s kind of s worthless as investment even if the shoes look better then others. Over here in the United States you can grab a pair of vans from an outlet mall for like $25-$30 for a classic silhouette like the high top, slip on, era, etc. and $40 for a pro shoe. Now obviously that shafts over the shops because I know they can’t sell Vans that cheaply or shoes that cheap in general to make a buck which sucks. This is why I think it’s funny y’all fuckers talking shit on Nike and Adidas. In America unless you buy shit online you can’t buy adidas skate shoes and Nike skate shoes outside of core shops, which drives there business. This is why I buy fashion skate shoes from shops to help them out, but buy cheap vans from the outlets to actually skate in. You can talk shit all you want, but the ethics of it are more complex then some of y’all want to make it out to be.
You seem to have a very narrow view of consumerism and the power you have over companies behavior in terms of business ethics. I don't know if it's a culture thing but here it's common to be willing to pay for shit you don't necessarily feel, but you know and can usually feel it. Like I stated earlier, supporting a smaller growing business with bigger focus on sustainability and business ethics can feel a lot different. This in itself can (somewhat ironically) also have the same impact as looks.
Buying cheap ass shoes from companies with trash ethics won't solve anything. They'll just get worse and worse, just look at Nikes bullshit quality we're all paying overprice for and how they're treating skate shops.
Buying shoes for double the money but that probably lasts longer, has good business ethics and supports sustainability makes a difference and puts pressure on competitors to put out better product.
How the future pans out depends on you as a consumer. Everyone started buying decks from fucking Zumiez to save 10$ and then they complain that the local skate shop sells longboards too now. Supporting companies who you want to be alive will help them grow and develop r&d and designs.
Bottom line: spend your money on the companies you want to support and they'll thrive. Some prioritize the price, they should get the cheaper pair. Some love Nike and what they do, so go ahead and get that. Others prioritize other things, they should get that. Alternatives are always good, the market (consumers) will decide the outcome.
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On the last resort Instagram there’s a photo of a piece of paper with initials of team riders (also a footnote suggesting Pontus is looking for creative weirdos who aren’t that good at skating- which is a bit of a back handed compliment to anyone he’s approached about riding for the company).
Speculation in the comments suggests Dane Brady, Chris mango milic and Jesse alba.
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Balenciaga Triple S or fukkaouttahere
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On the last resort Instagram there’s a photo of a piece of paper with initials of team riders (also a footnote suggesting Pontus is looking for creative weirdos who aren’t that good at skating- which is a bit of a back handed compliment to anyone he’s approached about riding for the company).
Speculation in the comments suggests Dane Brady, Chris mango milic and Jesse alba.
(https://i.ibb.co/0KRx3k6/738-E45-FD-6-F70-42-D9-B669-7-F878-F5-EF8-D4.jpg)
pretty sure NR= Nick Rios aka the dude with that hypnotic lipslide polejam bounce in the last polar video.
JA could be so many people, if not Jesse Alba maybe Jake Anderson? Although might be 'too good' at skating for this criteria.
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lol how is dane brady "not that good at skating"
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On the last resort Instagram there’s a photo of a piece of paper with initials of team riders (also a footnote suggesting Pontus is looking for creative weirdos who aren’t that good at skating- which is a bit of a back handed compliment to anyone he’s approached about riding for the company).
Speculation in the comments suggests Dane Brady, Chris mango milic and Jesse alba.
(https://i.ibb.co/0KRx3k6/738-E45-FD-6-F70-42-D9-B669-7-F878-F5-EF8-D4.jpg)
would rather it be jake anderson than jesse alba
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
Are you insinuating that there are a lot of skate shoe companies? I would argue the opposite, that there are very few brands left to choose from other than the major corporate brands. That said, it's probably financial suicide to try and break into the market independently due to the duopoly Nike and Adidas have on it.
Board companies are a whole different story, more than 1/2 of them need to go away.
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
Are you insinuating that there are a lot of skate shoe companies? I would argue the opposite, that there are very few brands left to choose from other than the major corporate brands. That said, it's probably financial suicide to try and break into the market independently due to the duopoly Nike and Adidas have on it.
Board companies are a whole different story, more than 1/2 of them need to go away.
State, proper, straye, 3 sole tech brands, globe, dvs, fallen, DC, lakai, supra, and I'm probably missing some more.
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
Are you insinuating that there are a lot of skate shoe companies? I would argue the opposite, that there are very few brands left to choose from other than the major corporate brands. That said, it's probably financial suicide to try and break into the market independently due to the duopoly Nike and Adidas have on it.
Board companies are a whole different story, more than 1/2 of them need to go away.
imo something like 3 or 4 new shoe brands wouldn't be bad at all.
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
Are you insinuating that there are a lot of skate shoe companies? I would argue the opposite, that there are very few brands left to choose from other than the major corporate brands. That said, it's probably financial suicide to try and break into the market independently due to the duopoly Nike and Adidas have on it.
Board companies are a whole different story, more than 1/2 of them need to go away.
State, proper, straye, 3 sole tech brands, globe, dvs, fallen, DC, lakai, supra, and I'm probably missing some more.
these are basically gone/ invisible/ or a mall brand
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
Are you insinuating that there are a lot of skate shoe companies? I would argue the opposite, that there are very few brands left to choose from other than the major corporate brands. That said, it's probably financial suicide to try and break into the market independently due to the duopoly Nike and Adidas have on it.
Board companies are a whole different story, more than 1/2 of them need to go away.
State, proper, straye, 3 sole tech brands, globe, dvs, fallen, DC, lakai, supra, and I'm probably missing some more.
It saddens me that I think all of those shoe companies have more or less disappointed me in - at least! - five years. :(
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
Are you insinuating that there are a lot of skate shoe companies? I would argue the opposite, that there are very few brands left to choose from other than the major corporate brands. That said, it's probably financial suicide to try and break into the market independently due to the duopoly Nike and Adidas have on it.
Board companies are a whole different story, more than 1/2 of them need to go away.
State, proper, straye, 3 sole tech brands, globe, dvs, fallen, DC, lakai, supra, and I'm probably missing some more.
It saddens me that I think all of those shoe companies have more or less disappointed me in - at least! - five years. :(
Lakai newports are the shit
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
Are you insinuating that there are a lot of skate shoe companies? I would argue the opposite, that there are very few brands left to choose from other than the major corporate brands. That said, it's probably financial suicide to try and break into the market independently due to the duopoly Nike and Adidas have on it.
Board companies are a whole different story, more than 1/2 of them need to go away.
State, proper, straye, 3 sole tech brands, globe, dvs, fallen, DC, lakai, supra, and I'm probably missing some more.
these are basically gone/ invisible/ or a mall brand
Interesting choices on the bolding because dc is the mall brand of all mall brands. And by invisible do you mean small? Isn't a small shoe brand what a lot of people are asking for?
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
Are you insinuating that there are a lot of skate shoe companies? I would argue the opposite, that there are very few brands left to choose from other than the major corporate brands. That said, it's probably financial suicide to try and break into the market independently due to the duopoly Nike and Adidas have on it.
Board companies are a whole different story, more than 1/2 of them need to go away.
State, proper, straye, 3 sole tech brands, globe, dvs, fallen, DC, lakai, supra, and I'm probably missing some more.
Damn, that list just proves how bad we do need a decent skate shoe company. State and Proper are the only real challengers here, and unfotunately States are killing my feet and never seen a pair of Propers in Europe.
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
Are you insinuating that there are a lot of skate shoe companies? I would argue the opposite, that there are very few brands left to choose from other than the major corporate brands. That said, it's probably financial suicide to try and break into the market independently due to the duopoly Nike and Adidas have on it.
Board companies are a whole different story, more than 1/2 of them need to go away.
State, proper, straye, 3 sole tech brands, globe, dvs, fallen, DC, lakai, supra, and I'm probably missing some more.
Damn, that list just proves how bad we do need a decent skate shoe company. State and Proper are the only real challengers here, and unfotunately States are killing my feet and never seen a pair of Propers in Europe.
Yes you're missing Vans which I would say is the only shoe brand besides Nike and Adidas and I guess Cons that make good shoes. The rest you mentioned have all seen better days.
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
Are you insinuating that there are a lot of skate shoe companies? I would argue the opposite, that there are very few brands left to choose from other than the major corporate brands. That said, it's probably financial suicide to try and break into the market independently due to the duopoly Nike and Adidas have on it.
Board companies are a whole different story, more than 1/2 of them need to go away.
State, proper, straye, 3 sole tech brands, globe, dvs, fallen, DC, lakai, supra, and I'm probably missing some more.
Damn, that list just proves how bad we do need a decent skate shoe company. State and Proper are the only real challengers here, and unfotunately States are killing my feet and never seen a pair of Propers in Europe.
Yes you're missing Vans which I would say is the only shoe brand besides Nike and Adidas and I guess Cons that make good shoes. The rest you mentioned have all seen better days.
Pretty sure Vans falls into the category of 'major corporate brands'.
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If this is going be as fuckable with as everything else Pontus does, it is definitely going to be to fuck with!
Can anybody explain to this old man though, how you get to see these mentioned photos and prizes of the shoes?!? I can't seem to figure out shit on my own.. :-\
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If this is going be as fuckable with as everything else Pontus does, it is definitely going to be to fuck with!
Can anybody explain to this old man though, how you get to see these mentioned photos and prizes of the shoes?!? I can't seem to figure out shit on my own.. :-\
seems they are about to remodel the site. no shop online anymore for the old stuff under the 3-3-20 name. so rn you can't order them or check prices. the shop and models released so far were still up when this thread was created two weeks ago.
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
Are you insinuating that there are a lot of skate shoe companies? I would argue the opposite, that there are very few brands left to choose from other than the major corporate brands. That said, it's probably financial suicide to try and break into the market independently due to the duopoly Nike and Adidas have on it.
Board companies are a whole different story, more than 1/2 of them need to go away.
State, proper, straye, 3 sole tech brands, globe, dvs, fallen, DC, lakai, supra, and I'm probably missing some more.
these are basically gone/ invisible/ or a mall brand
Interesting choices on the bolding because dc is the mall brand of all mall brands. And by invisible do you mean small? Isn't a small shoe brand what a lot of people are asking for?
I would argue that Vans is the mall brand of all mall brands - since they actually have stand alone stores in malls.
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I would like to see a pair of shoes where one shoe is inspired by Mad Circle era Pontus, and the other shoe is Gumbo Arcade Pontus, neon yellow tee bucket hat vibes.
Asymmetric shoe design, two different shoes, combine to make one.
https://youtu.be/QnNfzzrMkWM
https://youtu.be/p7QzprXEoi0
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
Are you insinuating that there are a lot of skate shoe companies? I would argue the opposite, that there are very few brands left to choose from other than the major corporate brands. That said, it's probably financial suicide to try and break into the market independently due to the duopoly Nike and Adidas have on it.
Board companies are a whole different story, more than 1/2 of them need to go away.
State, proper, straye, 3 sole tech brands, globe, dvs, fallen, DC, lakai, supra, and I'm probably missing some more.
these are basically gone/ invisible/ or a mall brand
Interesting choices on the bolding because dc is the mall brand of all mall brands. And by invisible do you mean small? Isn't a small shoe brand what a lot of people are asking for?
Plus every Tom dick and Harry fuck boy and surban mom wears vans. Vans is basically the Etnies with the big E or the ugly DCs with the big DC logo on the side of modern times.
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
Are you insinuating that there are a lot of skate shoe companies? I would argue the opposite, that there are very few brands left to choose from other than the major corporate brands. That said, it's probably financial suicide to try and break into the market independently due to the duopoly Nike and Adidas have on it.
Board companies are a whole different story, more than 1/2 of them need to go away.
State, proper, straye, 3 sole tech brands, globe, dvs, fallen, DC, lakai, supra, and I'm probably missing some more.
these are basically gone/ invisible/ or a mall brand
Interesting choices on the bolding because dc is the mall brand of all mall brands. And by invisible do you mean small? Isn't a small shoe brand what a lot of people are asking for?
there’s a stand-alone dc store in an outdoor mall in amsterdam. also juggalos don’t wear vans, fool
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Ironically, the prices aren't too far off what we used to have to pay for pro model skate shoes in Europe back in the very late 90's, very early 00's.
Yeah you’d hate to know what those prices equated to in New Zealand shops at the time...
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
Are you insinuating that there are a lot of skate shoe companies? I would argue the opposite, that there are very few brands left to choose from other than the major corporate brands. That said, it's probably financial suicide to try and break into the market independently due to the duopoly Nike and Adidas have on it.
Board companies are a whole different story, more than 1/2 of them need to go away.
State, proper, straye, 3 sole tech brands, globe, dvs, fallen, DC, lakai, supra, and I'm probably missing some more.
Damn, that list just proves how bad we do need a decent skate shoe company. State and Proper are the only real challengers here, and unfotunately States are killing my feet and never seen a pair of Propers in Europe.
Yes you're missing Vans which I would say is the only shoe brand besides Nike and Adidas and I guess Cons that make good shoes. The rest you mentioned have all seen better days.
Pretty sure Vans falls into the category of 'major corporate brands'.
Sure, but vans have been part of skateboarding since pretty much there inception.
Have a lot stronger roots than Nike and Adidas.
So I would say they are closer to a skate shoe company than Nike or Adidas.
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Oh sweet another shoe company.
Are you insinuating that there are a lot of skate shoe companies? I would argue the opposite, that there are very few brands left to choose from other than the major corporate brands. That said, it's probably financial suicide to try and break into the market independently due to the duopoly Nike and Adidas have on it.
Board companies are a whole different story, more than 1/2 of them need to go away.
State, proper, straye, 3 sole tech brands, globe, dvs, fallen, DC, lakai, supra, and I'm probably missing some more.
these are basically gone/ invisible/ or a mall brand
Interesting choices on the bolding because dc is the mall brand of all mall brands. And by invisible do you mean small? Isn't a small shoe brand what a lot of people are asking for?
with invisibile i mean, nobody wears them, at least in europe. additionally, nobody knows whos on their, nor do they put out footage/ clips (these two things might be connected tho)
vans is a mall brand coloured "cool". DC is a definite mall brand but their image got very much better in the last 5 years with tiago & co
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Sure, but vans have been part of skateboarding since pretty much there inception.
Have a lot stronger roots than Nike and Adidas.
So I would say they are closer to a skate shoe company than Nike or Adidas.
That's a logic I commonly hear from people who are into (or work for) Vans, but reality, past all marketing ploys, is anchored in the present first and foremost especially in an industry as quick to update itself (sometimes) as the one of skateboarding. And in the present, besides the 'since 1966' act/hashtag, they are comparable to Nike/Adidas. I commonly hear people argue that Nike and Adidas have also supported skate events and skateboarders from early on and so on. I respect your consideration of their legacy, but from my perspective I think the lines currently may be blurrier than you think. Which I couldn't blame you for because Vans' strongest marketing argument since the Janoski has been how they're more 'core' but especially nowadays, that's essentially a fabrication.
That's coming from someone who would feel just as 'gross' skating in Vans as in Adidas and Nikes, so feel free to take this with a grain of salt. Plus if you're satisfied with what Vans currently does (and they occasionally do cool local shit), then more power to you.
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Sure, but vans have been part of skateboarding since pretty much there inception.
Have a lot stronger roots than Nike and Adidas.
So I would say they are closer to a skate shoe company than Nike or Adidas.
That's a logic I commonly hear from people who are into (or work for) Vans, but reality, past all marketing ploys, is anchored in the present first and foremost especially in an industry as quick to update itself (sometimes) as the one of skateboarding. And in the present, besides the 'since 1966' act/hashtag, they are comparable to Nike/Adidas. I commonly hear people argue that Nike and Adidas have also supported skate events and skateboarders from early on and so on. I respect your consideration of their legacy, but from my perspective I think the lines currently may be blurrier than you think. Which I couldn't blame you for because Vans' strongest marketing argument since the Janoski has been how they're more 'core' but that's essentially a fabrication.
That's coming from someone who would feel just as 'gross' skating in Vans as in Adidas and Nikes, so feel free to take this with a grain of salt. Plus if you're satisfied with what Vans currently does, then more power to you.
Dude I’m telling you all, like Silhouette you’re one of my favorite posters. Bro I’m being real I know people very high up at VANs, plenty of the big cats were sponsored or are sponsored by VANs. I’m telling you that you genuinely don’t know what you’re talking about and I’m not a VANS homer. I brought this up in the honesty thread but when they sold to VF there were stipulations in place. They have deeper roots then all the other brands. If I ranked skate companies I would rank them as such:
Corp.
Nike/Cons, NB#, Adidas
In between:
Vans
Core:
Sole Tech, Lakai, this Pontus stuff, etc.
Also why do we support skater owned brands when skater owned brands didn’t even support the core shops. This shit pisses me off to no end, and I feel this is such a slap thing because In real life most people I talk to know all about this.
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Yeah I had read and acknowledged that other post of yours. I'm just a bit stuck in my habits and over the years, have developed a very sharp edge when it comes to what I personally want to support.
Your last point is also valid to consider, but that being said - playing the devil's advocate here - Vans has their own stores too which regularly seem to compete with local skateshops in most average-to-big cities.
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considered this yesterday w the rowan’s dropping - my local vans store ( 2 pretty close got them) and my local skate shop got them.
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If this is going be as fuckable with as everything else Pontus does, it is definitely going to be to fuck with!
Can anybody explain to this old man though, how you get to see these mentioned photos and prizes of the shoes?!? I can't seem to figure out shit on my own.. :-\
seems they are about to remodel the site. no shop online anymore for the old stuff under the 3-3-20 name. so rn you can't order them or check prices. the shop and models released so far were still up when this thread was created two weeks ago.
I managed to find them by typing shoe in the search bar.
Never saw that Mad Circle part before, and I've got to say that it was very enjoyable. I was actually never really really stoked on Pontus in the old days. Today he's one of my absolute favorites though..
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PONTUS NEEDS TO DO AN INTERVIEW WITH SOMEONE REGARDING THIS SHOE COMPANY STAT
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haha nah
free max b
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B8tBhobJs5n/?igshid=1o7v2e0oqb5eu
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thank god that never made into production
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i hope all the shoes have pontus quotes on the inside of the tongue tab.
"inspire others to inspire themselves"
"wallride oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah"
"spicy kev!!!! spicy spicy spicy!!!!!!"
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i hope all the shoes have pontus quotes on the inside of the tongue tab.
"inspire others to inspire themselves"
"wallride oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah"
"spicy kev!!!! spicy spicy spicy!!!!!!"
I’d rather then stick with Morrissey quotes and put Louie on the team.
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i hope all the shoes have pontus quotes on the inside of the tongue tab.
"inspire others to inspire themselves"
"wallride oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah"
"spicy kev!!!! spicy spicy spicy!!!!!!"
I've been waiting for someone to do a "Follow Scott Bourne - No one" spoof ever since Strongest of the Strange first came out.
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thank god that never made into production
yeah they are literally ice creams
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(https://i.ibb.co/PWgQwWk/brad-abshoes.jpg)
YKWTF is in the box
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TK on Last Resort AB confirmed
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I’m an above average bowler. Said it before but my game improved so much ever since I lost a finger.
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DB - Dane Brady
NR - Nick Rios
CM - Chris Milic
JA - Jesse Alba
LH - Ludvig Håkonssen
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haha nah
free max b
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NR - Nick Rios
CM - Chris Milic
JA - Jesse Alba
LH - Ludvig Håkonssen
why these two?
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These look like slimmed down version of some ICE CREAM shoes
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NR - Nick Rios
CM - Chris Milic
JA - Jesse Alba
LH - Ludvig Håkonssen
That team with Ludvig would be so good!
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lol whats up with that Ludvig guy, he's like as good as any average dude at a local skatepark.
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TK on Last Resort AB confirmed
These look like slimmed down version of some ICE CREAM shoes
Reminds me of Beloe footwear.
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lol whats up with that Ludvig guy, he's like as good as any average dude at a local skatepark.
Oh c'mon.
https://youtu.be/HEKqcTi4cDI
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lol whats up with that Ludvig guy, he's like as good as any average dude at a local skatepark.
Oh c'mon.
https://youtu.be/HEKqcTi4cDI
Ludvig in person is a real one. High skate IQ and regular IQ. His skating at the brick spots in downtown LA is no fucking joke. Those things took me an hour just to do a fucking axle stall on. Now I’m not the fucking most well trained at street tranny or tranny in general, but fuck did it look like it would be a cakewalk just staring at those things. Like I can do phat ass wallrides on flat walls, so pretty fucking shocking.
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Ludvig in person is a real one. High skate IQ and regular IQ. His skating at the brick spots in downtown LA is no fucking joke. Those things took me an hour just to do a fucking axle stall on.
Ha ha I'm better at skating than Cheetah.
Probably smash harder in the sack and have met more celebrities too.
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Pontus just posted a screen grab from this thread on Last Resort's Insta story.
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Pontus just posted a screen grab from this thread on Last Resort's Insta story.
senpai recognized us
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Ludvig in person is a real one. High skate IQ and regular IQ. His skating at the brick spots in downtown LA is no fucking joke. Those things took me an hour just to do a fucking axle stall on.
Ha ha I'm better at skating than Cheetah.
Probably smash harder in the sack and have met more celebrities too.
Lol this post is to goad me into responding, so I shall. Look bro as far as technical skateboarding goes I’m one of the greatest of all time. I used to really give a fuck, but I don’t so don’t think I give a shit about you being better then me. As a matter of fact I chased a few ghosts all my life and got better then them. Made me realize one day someone is gonna be better then me, and hopefully they do. To think someone of my skateboarding abilities would be jealous of another’s is silly. It would be like a dude with a 14” baseball bat thick cock being jealous of a dude with a 15” baseball bat thick cock because that’s genuinely how good of a skater I am. I don’t care if people are better then me. I don’t even care anymore about being great.
This also applies to sex and celebrities. Although celebrities are one thing, fucking book characters are another.
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Ludvig in person is a real one. High skate IQ and regular IQ. His skating at the brick spots in downtown LA is no fucking joke. Those things took me an hour just to do a fucking axle stall on.
Ha ha I'm better at skating than Cheetah.
Probably smash harder in the sack and have met more celebrities too.
Lol this post is to goad me into responding, so I shall. Look bro as far as technical skateboarding goes I’m one of the greatest of all time. I used to really give a fuck, but I don’t so don’t think I give a shit about you being better then me. As a matter of fact I chased a few ghosts all my life and got better then them. Made me realize one day someone is gonna be better then me, and hopefully they do. To think someone of my skateboarding abilities would be jealous of another’s is silly. It would be like a dude with a 14” baseball bat thick cock being jealous of a dude with a 15” baseball bat thick cock because that’s genuinely how good of a skater I am. I don’t care if people are better then me. I don’t even care anymore about being great.
This also applies to sex and celebrities. Although celebrities are one thing, fucking book characters are another.
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Ludvig in person is a real one. High skate IQ and regular IQ. His skating at the brick spots in downtown LA is no fucking joke. Those things took me an hour just to do a fucking axle stall on.
Ha ha I'm better at skating than Cheetah.
Probably smash harder in the sack and have met more celebrities too.
Lol this post is to goad me into responding, so I shall. Look bro as far as technical skateboarding goes I’m one of the greatest of all time. I used to really give a fuck, but I don’t so don’t think I give a shit about you being better then me. As a matter of fact I chased a few ghosts all my life and got better then them. Made me realize one day someone is gonna be better then me, and hopefully they do. To think someone of my skateboarding abilities would be jealous of another’s is silly. It would be like a dude with a 14” baseball bat thick cock being jealous of a dude with a 15” baseball bat thick cock because that’s genuinely how good of a skater I am. I don’t care if people are better then me. I don’t even care anymore about being great.
This also applies to sex and celebrities. Although celebrities are one thing, fucking book characters are another.
(https://i.imgur.com/jkgIuCA.jpg)
but obviously he has a very high skate IQ
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B8sABvZpKKu/?igshid=11u9pr15tjamj
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figured this would be out of business by the time i got to page 7
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figured this would be out of business by the time i got to page 7
But on what page did they actually start doing business? IDK if they're even at that point. That's when I start using the golden rule of 7.
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Ludvig in person is a real one. High skate IQ and regular IQ. His skating at the brick spots in downtown LA is no fucking joke. Those things took me an hour just to do a fucking axle stall on.
Ha ha I'm better at skating than Cheetah.
Probably smash harder in the sack and have met more celebrities too.
Lol this post is to goad me into responding, so I shall. Look bro as far as technical skateboarding goes I’m one of the greatest of all time. I used to really give a fuck, but I don’t so don’t think I give a shit about you being better then me. As a matter of fact I chased a few ghosts all my life and got better then them. Made me realize one day someone is gonna be better then me, and hopefully they do. To think someone of my skateboarding abilities would be jealous of another’s is silly. It would be like a dude with a 14” baseball bat thick cock being jealous of a dude with a 15” baseball bat thick cock because that’s genuinely how good of a skater I am. I don’t care if people are better then me. I don’t even care anymore about being great.
This also applies to sex and celebrities. Although celebrities are one thing, fucking book characters are another.
post the footy mane
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Ludvig in person is a real one. High skate IQ and regular IQ. His skating at the brick spots in downtown LA is no fucking joke. Those things took me an hour just to do a fucking axle stall on.
Ha ha I'm better at skating than Cheetah.
Probably smash harder in the sack and have met more celebrities too.
Lol this post is to goad me into responding, so I shall. Look bro as far as technical skateboarding goes I’m one of the greatest of all time. I used to really give a fuck, but I don’t so don’t think I give a shit about you being better then me. As a matter of fact I chased a few ghosts all my life and got better then them. Made me realize one day someone is gonna be better then me, and hopefully they do. To think someone of my skateboarding abilities would be jealous of another’s is silly. It would be like a dude with a 14” baseball bat thick cock being jealous of a dude with a 15” baseball bat thick cock because that’s genuinely how good of a skater I am. I don’t care if people are better then me. I don’t even care anymore about being great.
This also applies to sex and celebrities. Although celebrities are one thing, fucking book characters are another.
post the cock mane
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please post the cock mane
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Cheetah, how did you make it through college, and on to being a super successful engineer without knowing the difference between then and than?
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Cheetah, how did you make it through college, and on to being a super successful engineer without knowing the difference between then and than?
Because people pay me to understand all the things they can’t, not all the things they can silly.
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Ludvig in person is a real one. High skate IQ and regular IQ. His skating at the brick spots in downtown LA is no fucking joke. Those things took me an hour just to do a fucking axle stall on.
Ha ha I'm better at skating than Cheetah.
Probably smash harder in the sack and have met more celebrities too.
Lol this post is to goad me into responding, so I shall. Look bro as far as technical skateboarding goes I’m one of the greatest of all time. I used to really give a fuck, but I don’t so don’t think I give a shit about you being better then me. As a matter of fact I chased a few ghosts all my life and got better then them. Made me realize one day someone is gonna be better then me, and hopefully they do. To think someone of my skateboarding abilities would be jealous of another’s is silly. It would be like a dude with a 14” baseball bat thick cock being jealous of a dude with a 15” baseball bat thick cock because that’s genuinely how good of a skater I am. I don’t care if people are better then me. I don’t even care anymore about being great.
This also applies to sex and celebrities. Although celebrities are one thing, fucking book characters are another.
post the footy mane
I’m a big cat, that’s against the code.
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Ludvig in person is a real one. High skate IQ and regular IQ. His skating at the brick spots in downtown LA is no fucking joke. Those things took me an hour just to do a fucking axle stall on.
Ha ha I'm better at skating than Cheetah.
Probably smash harder in the sack and have met more celebrities too.
Lol this post is to goad me into responding, so I shall. Look bro as far as technical skateboarding goes I’m one of the greatest of all time. I used to really give a fuck, but I don’t so don’t think I give a shit about you being better then me. As a matter of fact I chased a few ghosts all my life and got better then them. Made me realize one day someone is gonna be better then me, and hopefully they do. To think someone of my skateboarding abilities would be jealous of another’s is silly. It would be like a dude with a 14” baseball bat thick cock being jealous of a dude with a 15” baseball bat thick cock because that’s genuinely how good of a skater I am. I don’t care if people are better then me. I don’t even care anymore about being great.
This also applies to sex and celebrities. Although celebrities are one thing, fucking book characters are another.
post the footy mane
I’m a big cat, that’s against the code.
what about the cock
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Ludvig in person is a real one. High skate IQ and regular IQ. His skating at the brick spots in downtown LA is no fucking joke. Those things took me an hour just to do a fucking axle stall on.
Ha ha I'm better at skating than Cheetah.
Probably smash harder in the sack and have met more celebrities too.
Lol this post is to goad me into responding, so I shall. Look bro as far as technical skateboarding goes I’m one of the greatest of all time. I used to really give a fuck, but I don’t so don’t think I give a shit about you being better then me. As a matter of fact I chased a few ghosts all my life and got better then them. Made me realize one day someone is gonna be better then me, and hopefully they do. To think someone of my skateboarding abilities would be jealous of another’s is silly. It would be like a dude with a 14” baseball bat thick cock being jealous of a dude with a 15” baseball bat thick cock because that’s genuinely how good of a skater I am. I don’t care if people are better then me. I don’t even care anymore about being great.
This also applies to sex and celebrities. Although celebrities are one thing, fucking book characters are another.
post the footy mane
I’m a big cat, that’s against the code.
what about the cock
How do you post images on here?
Run me through how to do it from imgbb let’s say and it’s all of slaps fam. I know how to upload the pic, just not embed the shit on here
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Ludvig in person is a real one. High skate IQ and regular IQ. His skating at the brick spots in downtown LA is no fucking joke. Those things took me an hour just to do a fucking axle stall on.
Ha ha I'm better at skating than Cheetah.
Probably smash harder in the sack and have met more celebrities too.
Lol this post is to goad me into responding, so I shall. Look bro as far as technical skateboarding goes I’m one of the greatest of all time. I used to really give a fuck, but I don’t so don’t think I give a shit about you being better then me. As a matter of fact I chased a few ghosts all my life and got better then them. Made me realize one day someone is gonna be better then me, and hopefully they do. To think someone of my skateboarding abilities would be jealous of another’s is silly. It would be like a dude with a 14” baseball bat thick cock being jealous of a dude with a 15” baseball bat thick cock because that’s genuinely how good of a skater I am. I don’t care if people are better then me. I don’t even care anymore about being great.
This also applies to sex and celebrities. Although celebrities are one thing, fucking book characters are another.
post the footy mane
I’m a big cat, that’s against the code.
what about the cock
How do you post images on here?
Run me through how to do it from imgbb let’s say and it’s all of slaps fam. I know how to upload the pic, just not embed the shit on here
This website will walk your threw it.
Www.bigcatsthatclaaim2B_engineers-thatCantfigureouthowtopostimages.troll.shutup.chester
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Here ya go fam, y’all deserved an action shot.
(https://i.ibb.co/NNgkCQm/7-C73-E35-A-C934-46-C0-9-E53-AC1-F4-ABC74-D6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xgKcLPf)
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Here ya go fam, y’all deserved an action shot.
(https://i.ibb.co/NNgkCQm/7-C73-E35-A-C934-46-C0-9-E53-AC1-F4-ABC74-D6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xgKcLPf)
Hell yeah jereme Rogers is on slap message boards y’all! #fisheye #smallhands #cameraangles
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Here ya go fam, y’all deserved an action shot.
(https://i.ibb.co/NNgkCQm/7-C73-E35-A-C934-46-C0-9-E53-AC1-F4-ABC74-D6.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xgKcLPf)
I mean it’s not the biggest cock I’ve ever seen but that wasn’t even the point lmfao, it’s 7.5” and 5.7” around, I love measuring dicks cause it’s fun with your gay homies:p, but do you really think I’m self conscious with my dick or why would I post it? Now this is how you legendarily derail a thread though.
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Looks like some orthopedic shoes my grandparents would wear, which is probably the look he was going for, but they still look like absolute shit that will fall to pieces in a few sessions.
I was going to point out that these weren't the versions meant to be skated but I feel like the thread has moved past that point now...
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Looks like some orthopedic shoes my grandparents would wear, which is probably the look he was going for, but they still look like absolute shit that will fall to pieces in a few sessions.
I was going to point out that these weren't the versions meant to be skated but I feel like the thread has moved past that point now...
Sometimes you gotta give the people what they want when they been drooling all over my dick like the chick in the photo.
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Looks like some orthopedic shoes my grandparents would wear, which is probably the look he was going for, but they still look like absolute shit that will fall to pieces in a few sessions.
I was going to point out that these weren't the versions meant to be skated but I feel like the thread has moved past that point now...
Sometimes you gotta give the people what they want when they been drooling all over my dick like the chick in the photo.
But how can we be sure that's you? Need to sharpie shalom for it to be verified
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Looks like some orthopedic shoes my grandparents would wear, which is probably the look he was going for, but they still look like absolute shit that will fall to pieces in a few sessions.
I was going to point out that these weren't the versions meant to be skated but I feel like the thread has moved past that point now...
Sometimes you gotta give the people what they want when they been drooling all over my dick like the chick in the photo.
But how can we be sure that's you? Need to sharpie shalom for it to be verified
Bro you just got a dick pic from the big cat. Don’t be so unshalom. I don’t need to prove anything lol. If y’all can’t realize with my stories that I’m a real dude who doesn’t bullshit about myself then y’all crazy. I troll on here, but I’m real af, and it’s so much fun to play between the two because y’all don’t know when I’m trolling or not, I will say that all the facts/stories I say are real, but that’s straight big cat cock right hur^^^.
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TK on Last Resort AB confirmed
These look like slimmed down version of some ICE CREAM shoes
...Ice Cream style shoes are def coming back on trend soon. Bet.
Maybe I was of by a year and a half, but it looks like my plan is finally coming together hehehe
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goddamnit
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thank god that never made into production
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goddamnit
What are you so upset about? You were the one who wanted to “post the cock Mane”?
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Cheetahs cock looking far more appealing than any of these shoes tbh
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Pontus checking in on this thread like
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Well looks like I’m not clicking a page back as long as I’m on this busy train
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Cheetahs cock looking far more appealing than any of these shoes tbh
Thanks Dr. Dew. I remember you were fantasizing about me in another thread, so this has gotta be dream come true.
Pontus checking in on this thread like
(https://media.giphy.com/media/iAYupOdWXQy5a4nVGk/giphy.gif)
Funniest shit is the other day I actually looked up “Last Resort AB” on google because I thought those blue and white ones were actually pretty fresh, and so I looked that shit up on google and legit this thread is the next highest thing other then the website. So essentially when you look up this brand, the big cat cock is the 2nd thing that pops up. I legit just trolled an entire brand and Pontus Alv, and it’s fucking glorious.
Also how the fuck has my rep dropped like 5 ducking points after posting my dick. Like i don’t give a shit about rep, but seriously I thought it would go in a positive direction for once because that shit takes balls.
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Just checked, your full of shit cheetah. You claimed to be Asian before I’m sure.
That’s a white dick. You could never step to mongoloid fr fr
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Just checked, your full of shit cheetah. You claimed to be Asian before I’m sure.
That’s a white dick
White & Arab. I can guarantee I’ve never said Asian unless it was a typo for Arab.
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Just checked, your full of shit cheetah. You claimed to be Asian before I’m sure.
That’s a white dick
White & Arab. I can guarantee I’ve never said Asian unless it was a typo for Arab.
Yeah I actually just went and check the fat bill thread and stand corrected. I apologise and bow down to your bigcatcock. Please tell us a story about how good you are at skating/all the people you have boned/your superhuman intelligence.
Just for the record, I still call bullshit unless you permanent marker ‘cheetahsheets’ on your dick and re post.
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Your rep went down because you're a fucking loser.
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Shit, is he about to ruin this thread too? Hey dummy, this is about Pontus' new shoes, not the Narnia adventures you had in your head at the mental hospital.
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Your rep went down because you're a fucking loser.
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I gotcha big cat. Here's a gnook for ya. Tell me a Foamer story please, but wait until there's a new thread I actually want to clock in before you derail it with your big cat foaming footy.
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Your rep went down because you're a fucking loser.
Can we please get a containment/quarantine thread for cheetahsheets like we got with Nick Jedi?
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That’s a real solid piece I’d probably trade all humility and self awareness to have one like it
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That’s a real solid piece I’d probably trade all humility and self awareness to have one like it
When you say "have one", do you mean like on you, or in you? Or both?
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cmon man my dicks like 3x that size
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Pontus checking in on this thread like
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Hahaha so good.
I’m just trying to figure out what young thug song Jeremy Rogers was singing to in that instapost, guess it wasn’t here.
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Your rep went down because you're a fucking loser.
I mean if I’m a loser then being a loser is the fucking shit.
Shit, is he about to ruin this thread too? Hey dummy, this is about Pontus' new shoes, not the Narnia adventures you had in your head at the mental hospital.
I’ve actually never been to a mental hospital luckily. I don’t have severe schizophrenia thank god, like I don’t hear voices in my head, I’m just on the bipolar schizophrenic spectrum. I really just have terrible mania and sometimes severe depression, but that’s about it. Most people with extremely extremely high level IQs end up having mental issues pretty similar. See most people with traditional schizophrenia their filters for signal processing are fucked up, and therefore they get far too much information then their brain can handle. In the case of the big cat, my filters are so fucking powerful that they crank out information so quickly because I’m so smart, so in other words my schizophrenia is a symptom of being a genius, it’s very rare, but it occurs in Einstein level thinkers. If y’all actually got to hear me speak you would realize that these walls of text I type are nothing compared to how actually I think and rationalize through problems, like these wall of texts are like 1/20-1/50 of the answers you hear. Some engineers love it that I work with because I’m so pedantic, but some fucking hate it because they want stuff extrapolated extremely to small explain this quickly type thing. I just end up getting annoyed typing this shit out on my phone to give full blown responses since my brain is already at the end of these things by the time I begin them, like y’all don’t realize how annoying it is to think 1,000 things in a fraction of a second and fully comprehend them. Like sure you basically have extreme intelligence as compared to most humans, but it’s fucking annoying as shit too and u have mental illness that creeps in as a result. It’s a really double edged sword, like if you see me brag about being smart on here know that it comes with severe problems as well. Like I’ve always been the smartest guy in the room my whole life and it fucking sucks. Like u would think it’s a really nice thing, but when u basically tell everyone there way of thinking isn’t as good, it’s always like you’re the guy that brings everyone down/annoys them. Like yeah my skate IQ is second to none other then Mullen himself, but y’all think there aren’t consequences too that?
That’s a real solid piece I’d probably trade all humility and self awareness to have one like it
Humility caused me severe depression, so I’m trying to get away from it. I was queer and didn’t want to be a pro skateboarder as a result on top of some other things because I didn’t want to be a queer pro skateboarder, and essentially lied to myself for years to tell myself I wasn’t good enough when I was extremely fucking talented. At the end of the day I own who I am now and I don’t really give two fucks what anyone thinks because I’m a king of the jungle. Basically by not being humble now I recognize my greatness and don’t shit on myself like I did for so long.
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Just ban him.
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Just ban him.
What have I done that’s ban worthy? I’m not spouting bigoted hate speech or anything ban worthy. Just cause I’m the best troll since gip left doesn’t mean that’s ban worthy. This place needs to have a troll like gip, Tracer, the big cat to make sure that all the other shithead trolls don’t gain steam.
Also y’all shitheads talking about a quarantine. YOU FUCKING REALIZE I RESPOND LIKE THIS WITH MY DICK OUT BECAUSE YOU GUYS ASK FOR IT.
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(https://i.imgur.com/QrubqpO.jpg)
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However much his therapist gets paid, it's not enough.
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The funniest thing is if you actually got to meet me and talk to me you would realize I’m like the exact opposite of a dickhead. I’m actually a really empathetic human being. This account is half character and half real. Y’all are just a bunch of hyenas who need to have a big cat that keeps them in check.
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What have I done that’s ban worthy? I’m not spouting bigoted hate speech or anything ban worthy. Just cause I’m the best troll since gip left doesn’t mean that’s ban worthy. This place needs to have a troll like gip, Tracer, the big cat to make sure that all the other shithead trolls don’t gain steam.
Also y’all shitheads talking about a quarantine. YOU FUCKING REALIZE I RESPOND LIKE THIS WITH MY DICK OUT BECAUSE YOU GUYS ASK FOR IT.
Say what you want but I’ll take 1000 cheetahs over a tracersbrother any day
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What have I done that’s ban worthy? I’m not spouting bigoted hate speech or anything ban worthy. Just cause I’m the best troll since gip left doesn’t mean that’s ban worthy. This place needs to have a troll like gip, Tracer, the big cat to make sure that all the other shithead trolls don’t gain steam.
Also y’all shitheads talking about a quarantine. YOU FUCKING REALIZE I RESPOND LIKE THIS WITH MY DICK OUT BECAUSE YOU GUYS ASK FOR IT.
Say what you want but I’ll take 1000 cheetahs over a tracersbrother any day
Hard disagree. tracersbrother is annoying and posts in short bursts of finger in your nose stupidity, cheetah is fucking incessant with slab after slab, day after day, of the most insane, delusional babble this side of Nick Jedi in almost every interesting thread.
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What have I done that’s ban worthy? I’m not spouting bigoted hate speech or anything ban worthy. Just cause I’m the best troll since gip left doesn’t mean that’s ban worthy. This place needs to have a troll like gip, Tracer, the big cat to make sure that all the other shithead trolls don’t gain steam.
Also y’all shitheads talking about a quarantine. YOU FUCKING REALIZE I RESPOND LIKE THIS WITH MY DICK OUT BECAUSE YOU GUYS ASK FOR IT.
Say what you want but I’ll take 1000 cheetahs over a tracersbrother any day
Hard disagree. tracersbrother is annoying and posts in short bursts of finger in your nose stupidity, cheetah is fucking incessant with slab after slab, day after day, of the most insane, delusional babble this side of Nick Jedi in almost every interesting thread.
The only reason people say I’m delusional is because they don’t know who I am, and they haven’t had a conversation with me in person or even like pm. I’m not delusional, I understand objective reality fairly well actually. Nick Jedi you literally could not understand what he was trying to convey. My sentences are coherent even if badly written.
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What you need is electroshock therapy.
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Your rep went down because you're a fucking loser.
Basically all that needs to be said about Cheetah.
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What have I done that’s ban worthy? I’m not spouting bigoted hate speech or anything ban worthy. Just cause I’m the best troll since gip left doesn’t mean that’s ban worthy. This place needs to have a troll like gip, Tracer, the big cat to make sure that all the other shithead trolls don’t gain steam.
Also y’all shitheads talking about a quarantine. YOU FUCKING REALIZE I RESPOND LIKE THIS WITH MY DICK OUT BECAUSE YOU GUYS ASK FOR IT.
Say what you want but I’ll take 1000 cheetahs over a tracersbrother any day
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Your rep went down because I’m a fucking loser and i kook people to make myself feel better
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Must be a tiny factory, if his whole company is in that little shoebox?
A factory for ants? The building has to be at least 3 times bigger!
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https://www.lastresortab.com/collections/sneakers
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0064/0040/9667/products/3-3-20-64622_1728x.jpg?v=1567196625)
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Ahhhhhh snap! Now ya got my attention
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Ouch. those are pretty bad
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Still no skate affordable shoes on the site then. Was hoping they would have a skate model included in the relaunch of the site
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Those ones with the velcro are from the old line, doesn't really have anything to do with them going forward.
The catalog has been sent to shops, I'm guessing they'll probably be showing the shoes to the public soon.
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they said release is tomorrow
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Ah yes, cause skateboarders have proved to love velcro shoes time and time again.
that said if there is a high top with tomorrows release i will consider buying a pair
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Ah yes, cause skateboarders have proved to love velcro shoes time and time again.
that said if there is a high top with tomorrows release i will consider buying a pair
There's no high top. And like I just said, those velcro shoes weren't intended as skate shoes and are an older model not part of the skate line.
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Pontus on hackysack shoes confirmed.
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How many dick picks do I have to send to derail a brand, am I right?
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Those ones with the velcro are from the old line, doesn't really have anything to do with them going forward.
The catalog has been sent to shops, I'm guessing they'll probably be showing the shoes to the public soon.
I liked the torey 3s. Probably the only good dvs shoe
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Just give TK a pro model. Make billions.
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Drop 'em!!! It's already 3/3 in Sweden.
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How many dick picks do I have to send to derail a brand, am I right?
Here you'd be fighting fire with fire though...
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Here you'd be fighting fire with fire though...
Gnarred my friend
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little sneak peek on their instagram, leather lining looks interesting, also saw a picture of them on foot shape looks very one star esque
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Pontus should make a slap account
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this is the skate version of common projects.
fancy leather lining and insole got me thinkin' yes
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the 3.3.20 pairs are over 200 dollars. shoe looks tight and is presumably high quality but you wouldn't catch me dead buying 200 dollar shoes that are gonna get skated. if they make a more affordable shoe (85 or less) i might consider
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The big day has come and gone, and all they post is the logo on the insole. I can't be certain, but guys, this shit might be WACK.
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The big day has come and gone, and all they post is the logo on the insole. I can't be certain, but guys, this shit might be WACK.
Blew it
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The big day has come and gone, and all they post is the logo on the insole. I can't be certain, but guys, this shit might be WACK.
Blew it
actually hoped for a small clip announcing the team and so on
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My guess is they try to do everything different, and this is different. Announcing fake release to keep people wait and wonder.
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I don't think it's releasing yet, just the official announcement of the company on the 3rd.
There's only one shoe style when it releases. The low cut Vans Epoch Sport looking shoe in three colourways - green, yellow and black. Any other shoe you see is from the old company and has nothing to do with Last Resort.
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My guess is they try to do everything different, and this is different. Announcing fake release to keep people wait and wonder.
maybe wants to get that one FINAL shoe to make his release perfect, living the suciu way of life
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The big day has come and gone, and all they post is the logo on the insole. I can't be certain, but guys, this shit might be WACK.
Blew it at some point
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The big day has come and gone, and all they post is the logo on the insole. I can't be certain, but guys, this shit might be WACK.
Blew it at some point
Damn I didn’t even think how relevant that dick pic was for this thread. The mystical power of the big cats at work.
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(https://media.giphy.com/media/YTvBp66d3gDZe/giphy.gif)
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3.3.20 is the launch of the brand.
I have a feeling info is going to continue to leak out slowly.
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THE BRAND HAS BEEN LAUNCHED FOR A WHILE THE 3-3-20 SHOES HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE FOR QUITE SOME TIME
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Yeah, no shit.
That’s why he’s using that date to relaunch under a new name.
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saw a picture of them on foot shape looks very one star esque
I couldn't be less surprised by this information.
edit: If anyone on here ever has the idea/thought to reply to this Cheeta idiot, just don't. Put him on ignore and act like he never existed.
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There is a sole pic on LRAB insta story
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3.3.20 is the launch of the brand.
I have a feeling info is going to continue to leak out slowly.
In the age of social media where full lengths get one viewing and no replay, brands emerge and dissolve within the year and kids are switching up styles and lifestyles by the week Pontus needs to rethink his approach to marketing. I’m in my 30s and even I’m over it already.
I want it all and I want it now
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There is a sole pic on LRAB insta story
looking like cons
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So to recap, Pontus has created a hybrid vans/cons shoe... Why not just buy Straye at what I assume would be a fraction of the cost of what LRAB will be going for? Will def pick up a pair once they hit Ross.
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Anyone post this yet?
https://www.instagram.com/p/B9J_IyWlqSG/
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nice scribbles take notes skatan
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Saw the coming suede skateversion today and had a quick feel - looks really good IMO. Will try them out.
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I almost feel like for every shoe that drops I should drop a dick pic in this thread. Maybe I should buy there shoes and then put my dick on them, idk I could get creative.
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This guy really is really just making converses in Spain...? Really wanna know what they're marketing plan is gonna be after all this shit going through the industry with the pandemic and against not only Converse or Vans but the wanna be brand Straye as well.
(https://i.imgur.com/53mISbh.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/FQUUrLk.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/yCLPik7.png)
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This guy really is really just making converses in Spain...? Really wanna know what they're marketing plan is gonna be after all this shit going through the industry with the pandemic and against not only Converse or Vans but the wanna be brand Straye as well.
(https://i.imgur.com/53mISbh.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/FQUUrLk.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/yCLPik7.png)
Portugal mate, put some fucking respect on that.
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Why do you keep shouting out Straye like they're some kind of industry powerhouse that people are ripping off?
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Looks sick but I’ll be waiting for if/when they release a cupsole.
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Why do you keep shouting out Straye like they're some kind of industry powerhouse that people are ripping off?
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Pontus is involved so I'll support :D
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Ahhh Pontus. He's always been in my top3. SOTS is my favorite video of all time. I've always thought that he can do no wrong.
Except maybe this.
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we'll see, i think it will blow up. polar&pontus is really popular in europe
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Like I wrote, Ive sent he skate versions of these. Meet Sami a few weeks ago, and he had them on him. Black suede version. Got a good look and feel, looks really good. I dont like Pontus - Think he is an A-hole but Sami is a stand-up guy so Im gonna try them ot.
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saw a picture of them on foot shape looks very one star esque
edit: If anyone on here ever has the idea/thought to reply to this Cheeta idiot, just don't. Put him on ignore and act like he never existed.
The ultimate hack to make Slap more enjoyable, add Secondhandturd to the ignore list too and life is good.
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Don't know how to put story up here but shoes looking goood!
https://www.instagram.com/stories/lastresortab/ (https://www.instagram.com/stories/lastresortab/)
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Don't know how to put story up here but shoes looking goood!
https://www.instagram.com/stories/lastresortab/ (https://www.instagram.com/stories/lastresortab/)
this pic?
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-jrQqyp8g9/?igshid=jm35yr8dvlpc
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Don't know how to put story up here but shoes looking goood!
https://www.instagram.com/stories/lastresortab/ (https://www.instagram.com/stories/lastresortab/)
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-jrQqyp8g9/?igshid=jm35yr8dvlpc
yes!
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wow very shoe-esque
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wow very shoe-esque
I N N O V A T I O N
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LeRAB
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_NwmwZlK_b/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/B_NwmwZlK_b/)
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New interview with pAlv
https://blog.slamcity.com/catch-up-with-pontus-alv/ (https://blog.slamcity.com/catch-up-with-pontus-alv/)
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New interview with pAlv
https://blog.slamcity.com/catch-up-with-pontus-alv/ (https://blog.slamcity.com/catch-up-with-pontus-alv/)
Highlight : a whole paragraph about skinny pants being absolutely disgusting.
New Polar video next year
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New interview with pAlv
https://blog.slamcity.com/catch-up-with-pontus-alv/ (https://blog.slamcity.com/catch-up-with-pontus-alv/)
Highlight : a whole paragraph about skinny pants being absolutely disgusting.
New Polar video next year
I don't really like "boosted ego" Pontus but this was a cool read
+First Last Resort AB shoe will drop in september, low top.
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And he’s 100% right about skinny pants being disgusting. But I think everyone already knew that.
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Man, I was making big boy pants in the early 90's during the first wave - judging by this interview I could make bank if I got back at it.
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I didn't really care much about these shoes from what I saw online but yesterday Pontus was chillin in a black/white pair as Hjalte was getting clips and they looked good as hell. Def gonna try a pair when they come out.
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And he’s 100% right about skinny pants being disgusting. But I think everyone already knew that.
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I dunno if its been talked about on here but i saw high top mockups somewhere and they are really solid looking, Im really stoked for this brand to drop
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And he’s 100% right about skinny pants being disgusting. But I think everyone already knew that.
and..
"I always believed skateboarding looks better in baggy clothes."
#samesiez
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Both Keen and Keen USA had pics on their insta showing all the boxes of shoes arriving.
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So they are 99% the one star cc’s?
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yes, those are the ones I saw
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Bad news: the shoes will not be made in Portugal as expected but in Vietnam assuming the boxes pictures shown on Instagram.
The Euro-made skate shoes dream is over, let's hope they will be made in ethical conditions.
I asked about this on their Instagram and they just liked my message...
Anyway, first drop is September 18th with the One Star clone, and hopefully the canvas mid will be in the second drop.
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Anyway, first drop is September 18th with the One Star clone, and hopefully the canvas mid will be in the second drop.
The first mids will all be suede. They're out in December. Four colorways of the mid along with three new colorways of the low to go with the three coming this week. Canvas shoes are coming next year.
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Bad news: the shoes will not be made in Portugal as expected but in Vietnam assuming the boxes pictures shown on Instagram.
The Euro-made skate shoes dream is over, let's hope they will be made in ethical conditions.
I asked about this on their Instagram and they just liked my message...
Anyway, first drop is September 18th with the One Star clone, and hopefully the canvas mid will be in the second drop.
They posted somewhere that the price is 85$, immediately I thought it was impossible to be made in Europe. I'm disappointed because I wanted something with less impact on the environment.
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I wish they’d make a Vans Chukka style shoe, seeing that Vans never makes them anymore.
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Made in Europe skate shoe would have been special. Vietnam generally has a good reputation for manufacturing, but doesn't exactly have the same lux vibe.
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As long as they don’t use slave labor.
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Pontus is my favorite dude ever in skateboarding but I've got zero interest in these things.
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Anyway, first drop is September 18th with the One Star clone, and hopefully the canvas mid will be in the second drop.
The first mids will all be suede. They're out in December. Four colorways of the mid along with three new colorways of the low to go with the three coming this week. Canvas shoes are coming next year.
Very interested in the mids, where can we see a sneak peak?
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Anyway, first drop is September 18th with the One Star clone, and hopefully the canvas mid will be in the second drop.
The first mids will all be suede. They're out in December. Four colorways of the mid along with three new colorways of the low to go with the three coming this week. Canvas shoes are coming next year.
Very interested in the mids, where can we see a sneak peak?
Pontus has been posting pics on the LastResortAB Instagram along with his personal and the polar accounts
They’re usually on the story though but check the page once a day and you’ll usually get a peak
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As long as they don’t use slave labor.
He showed the first batch of shoes and I don't remember the exact price, but they were in the ballpark of $200, right? Those were made in Portugal with what we hopefully can assume is not slave labor, or even, terrible working conditions, but it's still industrial "mass" production so who knows.
People (skateboarders) were outraged and said, things like "maybe if they were $85 or less I might buy them"...
Pontus Alv, perhaps with some of his naiveté burned away by the internet, went back to the ol' drawing board and said "shit, I need to make these under $85 or nobody will buy them.". He found a factory in Vietnam to produce them for the price he needed. Did he visit this factory to make sure working conditions were OK? What are the salaries of the employees of that factory? Who knows? Maybe we will never know.
He tried to make a european produced skate shoe. People complained about the price. Now we have another sneaker produced in Vietnam. Hopefully there will be some kind of press release about how great and ethical this particular Vietnamese factory is, but Vietnam does not have the best track record in this regard.
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I'm pretty sure the skate line was never supposed to be 200$ portugese made.
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a little bummed they aren't made in eu, that is not to say they will be bad. would have been cool to be able to buy a sweatshop free skateshoe. more info on the factory would be sick. that was a big incentive for me to be excited about them. the shoes themselves are alright, but i'm not super crazy about them.
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I don’t think you can make vulcanized shoes ethically
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I don’t think you can make vulcanized shoes ethically
Right isn't the glue used illegal in the US because it's so toxic?
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I don’t think you can make vulcanized shoes ethically
yeah, maybe. don't know about the process tbh, but i could imagine that.
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Veja makes a campus lookalike. french company, shoes made in brazil, front like their ethical, kinda corny, $150 for the cup, $140 for a vulc. that's what your looking at for some limited DCs or something
(though no one buys those its all flow kids but you know what i mean)
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Veja makes a campus lookalike. french company, shoes made in brazil, front like their ethical, kinda corny, $150 for the cup, $140 for a vulc. that's what your looking at for some limited DCs or something (though no one buys those its all flow kids but you know what i mean)
yeah i thought about trying those, even those are pretty much considered hipster mom shoes where i live. they are easy to get on sale here. but they don't have enough padding in the right places, like the tongue. i don't mind the shoes, they look fairly skateable, if not the most durable probably.
vegetarian shoes seem to be made in uk and eu(or ec, european community, whatever they mean with that) but the only vulc model i see, the chuck knock off, is made in sri lanka.
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a little bummed they aren't made in eu, that is not to say they will be bad. would have been cool to be able to buy a sweatshop free skateshoe. more info on the factory would be sick. that was a big incentive for me to be excited about them. the shoes themselves are alright, but i'm not super crazy about them.
This.
So all this isn’t happening? That sucks.
“He started his own little thing, sneakers made in Portugal, more expensive stuff. I was randomly sitting in my beach bar chatting to him on Instagram DM. I told him that if he could make me a vulcanised shoe that cost under 100 Euros I would be interested.
Basically he called some connections and told me he had a factory with small minimums at a great price run by nice people. We drew up the first model and within two months we had a sample which was already a very good direction. Like “oh my god this is actually nice”. The best thing about it is we can produce very small minimums so there’s no pressure. With this we can make low quantities, no pressure. It’s very nice to be able to make some shoes and have a small team and start playing around with what you can do as a skate shoe company”.
“Bottom line the product has to be fucking great. That’s what I’ve been focusing on, making a great shoe, a great product. The concept is very simple. Me personally I’m sick and tired of looking down, I don’t want to look down on my feet and see a swoosh or stripes or a star or any of that. I don’t want to be associated with that”.
I think there is a market for people to pay more for a nicer, non-sweatshop shoe. The idea of the shoes being made where Pontus lives was big appeal. I love the Polar made in Portugal clothing. The shoes would have sold well even at a higher price. But, if it’s just made in China/Indonesia/Vietnam (the usual cheap labour used by the big sports) then I’m not interested. I don’t need more cheap shit.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CFI9LC4FAz9/
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I don’t think you can make vulcanized shoes ethically
Right isn't the glue used illegal in the US because it's so toxic?
I want to say, and I say this with a moronic brain, but that the glue, and synthetic rubber combined with the extreme heat creates a very toxic fume and is only done in places with small to non existent pollution laws. That being said, I think there may be more ethical ways of vulcanization, such as when designer fashion houses have vulcanized shoes and are (maybe) made in Europe; Portugal and Italy being common manufacturers for brands. Probably could not be at skate shoe price points though.
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a little bummed they aren't made in eu, that is not to say they will be bad. would have been cool to be able to buy a sweatshop free skateshoe. more info on the factory would be sick. that was a big incentive for me to be excited about them. the shoes themselves are alright, but i'm not super crazy about them.
This.
So all this isn’t happening? That sucks.
“He started his own little thing, sneakers made in Portugal, more expensive stuff. I was randomly sitting in my beach bar chatting to him on Instagram DM. I told him that if he could make me a vulcanised shoe that cost under 100 Euros I would be interested.
Basically he called some connections and told me he had a factory with small minimums at a great price run by nice people. We drew up the first model and within two months we had a sample which was already a very good direction. Like “oh my god this is actually nice”. The best thing about it is we can produce very small minimums so there’s no pressure. With this we can make low quantities, no pressure. It’s very nice to be able to make some shoes and have a small team and start playing around with what you can do as a skate shoe company”.
“Bottom line the product has to be fucking great. That’s what I’ve been focusing on, making a great shoe, a great product. The concept is very simple. Me personally I’m sick and tired of looking down, I don’t want to look down on my feet and see a swoosh or stripes or a star or any of that. I don’t want to be associated with that”.
I think there is a market for people to pay more for a nicer, non-sweatshop shoe. The idea of the shoes being made where Pontus lives was big appeal. I love the Polar made in Portugal clothing. The shoes would have sold well even at a higher price. But, if it’s just made in China/Indonesia/Vietnam (the usual cheap labour used by the big sports) then I’m not interested. I don’t need more cheap shit.
This is pretty much exactly how I feel too. The only reason this seemed interesting at all was because it was made in Europe, now it's just more of the same. It would be cool if they could produce both at least, maybe a nice cupsole made in Europe.
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menuskateshop insta has some pics
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFI9LC4FAz9/
Foxing height and thickness and toe bumper all look similar to the Huf Classic, which I did not love. Also in that first shot the way that the top of the foxing does those little creases against the suede makes me worried it would do that thing where it lifts away from the suede in triangles at the crease points - Vans pro lines always do that for me.
Of course I’m probably getting too analytical when the production run hasn’t been released yet - wish Pontus the best with this endeavor.
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I think adidas came out with a differnt glue/foxing tape that they said was a ‘cold’ Vulc or some shit. The reason you don’t see EVA or other foam midsoles in Vulc is because the heating process of traditional Vulc destroys it.
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Trendy kids are gonna line up to buy these regardless of the cost or where they're made. Doesn't matter it's just a rip off Converse with that cheap looking sole.
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menuskateshop insta has some pics
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFI9LC4FAz9/
Someone please give some washers to that guy in the photo!
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Trendy kids are gonna line up to buy these regardless of the cost or where they're made. Doesn't matter it's just a rip off Converse with that cheap looking sole.
So you don't support a brand new, skater-owned and operated shoe brand?
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Veja makes a campus lookalike. french company, shoes made in brazil, front like their ethical, kinda corny, $150 for the cup, $140 for a vulc. that's what your looking at for some limited DCs or something (though no one buys those its all flow kids but you know what i mean)
yeah i thought about trying those, even those are pretty much considered hipster mom shoes where i live. they are easy to get on sale here. but they don't have enough padding in the right places, like the tongue. i don't mind the shoes, they look fairly skateable, if not the most durable probably.
vegetarian shoes seem to be made in uk and eu(or ec, european community, whatever they mean with that) but the only vulc model i see, the chuck knock off, is made in sri lanka.
I can't stand veja shoes because of the sororiety and fraternity bros that wear them on my college campus. But they do seem skateable
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I think adidas came out with a differnt glue/foxing tape that they said was a ‘cold’ Vulc or some shit. The reason you don’t see EVA or other foam midsoles in Vulc is because the heating process of traditional Vulc destroys it.
That gives me a lot of personal closure considering I could never figure out how they made the zx adv, and also the sole tech shoes like the theory that had a nice midsole
(https://www.hispotion.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/adidas-skateboarding-zx-vulc-3-600x400.jpg)
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a little bummed they aren't made in eu, that is not to say they will be bad. would have been cool to be able to buy a sweatshop free skateshoe. more info on the factory would be sick. that was a big incentive for me to be excited about them. the shoes themselves are alright, but i'm not super crazy about them.
This.
So all this isn’t happening? That sucks.
“He started his own little thing, sneakers made in Portugal, more expensive stuff. I was randomly sitting in my beach bar chatting to him on Instagram DM. I told him that if he could make me a vulcanised shoe that cost under 100 Euros I would be interested.
Basically he called some connections and told me he had a factory with small minimums at a great price run by nice people. We drew up the first model and within two months we had a sample which was already a very good direction. Like “oh my god this is actually nice”. The best thing about it is we can produce very small minimums so there’s no pressure. With this we can make low quantities, no pressure. It’s very nice to be able to make some shoes and have a small team and start playing around with what you can do as a skate shoe company”.
“Bottom line the product has to be fucking great. That’s what I’ve been focusing on, making a great shoe, a great product. The concept is very simple. Me personally I’m sick and tired of looking down, I don’t want to look down on my feet and see a swoosh or stripes or a star or any of that. I don’t want to be associated with that”.
I think there is a market for people to pay more for a nicer, non-sweatshop shoe. The idea of the shoes being made where Pontus lives was big appeal. I love the Polar made in Portugal clothing. The shoes would have sold well even at a higher price. But, if it’s just made in China/Indonesia/Vietnam (the usual cheap labour used by the big sports) then I’m not interested. I don’t need more cheap shit.
damn, i was hyped for european-produced shoes as well, that actually is a bummer. but we'll see, maybe production sites will be changed in the near future?
is there any word/ rumors on a skate team or?
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a little bummed they aren't made in eu, that is not to say they will be bad. would have been cool to be able to buy a sweatshop free skateshoe. more info on the factory would be sick. that was a big incentive for me to be excited about them. the shoes themselves are alright, but i'm not super crazy about them.
This.
So all this isn’t happening? That sucks.
“He started his own little thing, sneakers made in Portugal, more expensive stuff. I was randomly sitting in my beach bar chatting to him on Instagram DM. I told him that if he could make me a vulcanised shoe that cost under 100 Euros I would be interested.
Basically he called some connections and told me he had a factory with small minimums at a great price run by nice people. We drew up the first model and within two months we had a sample which was already a very good direction. Like “oh my god this is actually nice”. The best thing about it is we can produce very small minimums so there’s no pressure. With this we can make low quantities, no pressure. It’s very nice to be able to make some shoes and have a small team and start playing around with what you can do as a skate shoe company”.
“Bottom line the product has to be fucking great. That’s what I’ve been focusing on, making a great shoe, a great product. The concept is very simple. Me personally I’m sick and tired of looking down, I don’t want to look down on my feet and see a swoosh or stripes or a star or any of that. I don’t want to be associated with that”.
I think there is a market for people to pay more for a nicer, non-sweatshop shoe. The idea of the shoes being made where Pontus lives was big appeal. I love the Polar made in Portugal clothing. The shoes would have sold well even at a higher price. But, if it’s just made in China/Indonesia/Vietnam (the usual cheap labour used by the big sports) then I’m not interested. I don’t need more cheap shit.
damn, i was hyped for european-produced shoes as well, that actually is a bummer. but we'll see, maybe production sites will be changed in the near future?
is there any word/ rumors on a skate team or?
I hope so. I think Polar clothes were made in Asia in the beginning, and are now made in Portugal for the most part.
Regarding the team, I think the insta guy who always skates in suits is on.
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I'm not an expert, but I believe the only places making vulcanized shoes in the USA through the 90's were in California. CA has significantly stricter environmental laws than most other states, so when the new state level regulations kicked in, that effectively shut down all USA vulcanized sneaker manufacturing.
Car tires are vulcanized, and there are dozens of tire factories in the USA, but definitely none of them in Cali. I don't think environmental laws would preclude manufacturing a vulcanized shoe in the USA, but it would have to be in Detroit or someplace where regulations are weaker.
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I don’t think you can make vulcanized shoes ethically
Right isn't the glue used illegal in the US because it's so toxic?
I want to say, and I say this with a moronic brain, but that the glue, and synthetic rubber combined with the extreme heat creates a very toxic fume and is only done in places with small to non existent pollution laws. That being said, I think there may be more ethical ways of vulcanization, such as when designer fashion houses have vulcanized shoes and are (maybe) made in Europe; Portugal and Italy being common manufacturers for brands. Probably could not be at skate shoe price points though.
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I get people being bummed that these aren’t being produced in Portugal, I am too, but saying you’re not going to buy them now...what ethically made shoes are you buying then?
Oh right, you’re not. So how about supporting a brand new skater owned/operated company as opposed to giving more money to fucking Nike or adidas?
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If they skate like the one star cc's did ill be buying alot of these
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pretty dope its vincent huhtas pops in all the ads. cant imagine how laid back he is given his sons style
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Trendy kids are gonna line up to buy these regardless of the cost or where they're made. Doesn't matter it's just a rip off Converse with that cheap looking sole.
Not if they're just making vulc shoes, or overpriced shoes. Seems like Pontus just wants to make Converse kicks without the logo. No thanks. If he makes something I genuinely like, in a cupsole, and it's priced competitively, maybe. But I'd much rather wear Es' or Emerica over some rip off Cons.
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If they skate like the one star cc's did ill be buying alot of these
that was a very good shoe
I get people being bummed that these aren’t being produced in Portugal, I am too, but saying you’re not going to buy them now...what ethically made shoes are you buying then?
Oh right, you’re not. So how about supporting a brand new skater owned/operated company as opposed to giving more money to fucking Nike or adidas?
Lol
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Waiting on the papa roach collab.
Cut my life into pieces
This is my last resort
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pretty dope its vincent huhtas pops in all the ads. cant imagine how laid back he is given his sons style
his son gumby is actually rebelling against his father's rigid and authoritarian jock style
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heard these things are running for $85. more then I like to pay for skate shoes.
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Bad news: the shoes will not be made in Portugal as expected but in Vietnam assuming the boxes pictures shown on Instagram.
The Euro-made skate shoes dream is over, let's hope they will be made in ethical conditions.
I asked about this on their Instagram and they just liked my message...
Anyway, first drop is September 18th with the One Star clone, and hopefully the canvas mid will be in the second drop.
Wait, I’m confused. What about this picture is telling you they’re made in Vietnam? Or is there another post? This is the only one I see with shoe boxes in it.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCJ_uISFWJR/
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Bad news: the shoes will not be made in Portugal as expected but in Vietnam assuming the boxes pictures shown on Instagram.
The Euro-made skate shoes dream is over, let's hope they will be made in ethical conditions.
I asked about this on their Instagram and they just liked my message...
Anyway, first drop is September 18th with the One Star clone, and hopefully the canvas mid will be in the second drop.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCJ_uISFWJR/
What language is that exit sign in?
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Bad news: the shoes will not be made in Portugal as expected but in Vietnam assuming the boxes pictures shown on Instagram.
The Euro-made skate shoes dream is over, let's hope they will be made in ethical conditions.
I asked about this on their Instagram and they just liked my message...
Anyway, first drop is September 18th with the One Star clone, and hopefully the canvas mid will be in the second drop.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCJ_uISFWJR/
What language is that exit sign in?
Ah, I see. Thanks for that. I used the zoom feature but mainly just noticed the packaging on the boxes was too small to read.
It’s still strange to me that this is our only evidence that Pontus’ whole vision of Euro made shoes has changed. He discussed already having a Portugal manufacturer set up and how he excited he was about it. But I guess that exit sign is pretty decent evidence of a change occurring as well :o
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Bad news: the shoes will not be made in Portugal as expected but in Vietnam assuming the boxes pictures shown on Instagram.
The Euro-made skate shoes dream is over, let's hope they will be made in ethical conditions.
I asked about this on their Instagram and they just liked my message...
Anyway, first drop is September 18th with the One Star clone, and hopefully the canvas mid will be in the second drop.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCJ_uISFWJR/
What language is that exit sign in?
Ha - well spotted! It’s kinda awkward that the Last Resort AB IG still has the link in bio claiming the shoes are made in Portugal. And they did make samples so all this talk about glues is nonsense, they could make them in Portugal but obvs it costs more than paying pennys in Vietnam.
I think EE with HRS (or even Rone) were onto something by not making more disposable skate shoes, it’s not needed. So why not do something better or different? This isn’t.
This is basically the classic bait and switch.
(Zoom in on boxes)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCWvCFFJCAJ/?igshid=5gd8wcsoczmi
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That logo reminds me of the blue guy from that trapdoor show
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Damn. That box makes it’s pretty official. Bummer. Still gonna try them out
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to be fair, he did not directly state they are going to produced in portugal, did he? only that he knows a guy whos producing stuff in portugal and as long as he gets him shoes under 100$ he's in... I did understand it as all of you nonetheless
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No shipping to Australia. That counts out approximately 1/3 of Slap. I wonder if shops that have an account with the Polar distro will be able to get these in?
Why thank you for remembering us
No doubt we’ll get torn a new asshole on the price also
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No shipping to Australia. That counts out approximately 1/3 of Slap. I wonder if shops that have an account with the Polar distro will be able to get these in?
Why thank you for remembering us
No doubt we’ll get torn a new asshole on the price also
Project is distributing them (which is surprising as they don’t do polar). It seems like majority of shops with a project account are getting them in. They will be out Saturday in Aus.
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to be fair, he did not directly state they are going to produced in portugal, did he? only that he knows a guy whos producing stuff in portugal and as long as he gets him shoes under 100$ he's in... I did understand it as all of you nonetheless
Yeah, maybe you’re right. But when I read that interview it didn’t scream sweatshop in Vietnam. I guess that’s the power of marketing/pr. I mean how does what Pontus said below match up with shipping stock back and forth across the world to exploit labour laws for an inferior product. What he said is kinda the opposite to what he did. Hey, I get it, profits/capitalism/business, that’s the world. Everyones doing it, and if you want to compete then you have too. I’m just bummed, I was really psyched on it and bought into and believed what he was saying. It’s just a let down from the build up. I thought it was going to be something different, but it’s just another option of the same (except without the swoosh, stripes, star). I’m sure they’ll be great.
”Right now, one year ago I moved to Portugal, Porto...I’m close to my production, a lot of my Polar stuff is made here around the corner, 40 minutes away. It’s nice to be close to that and have a daily check in. It’s easy, if there’s a problem I just go up there or they come down. They show me the problem and we solve it instead of shipping stuff back and forth to Sweden.
Let’s try and be nice to each other and make this a nice lovable place. Instead we have full on power, capitalism going out of control. It’s not a nice direction where our planet is heading and I think every human on this planet right now is feeling quite anxious about the situation. What the fuck!
Try to be positive, the planet is heading in a dark direction and we humans have to change it on a day to day level. It’s important on a daily level just to be nice to the next man, treat each other well and that’s all. Skate more, try to have fun. Love more, hate less and be fucking blessed that we are here still. Try to cut down your pollutions. Drive less, skate more. Fly less, cycle more. Eat more vegetarian food. Buy vintage or high quality garments. Recycle what you can and support local near by production”
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Lol that little spiel didn't age very well did it.
"Be nice, present yourself as a good person. Care about eachother and animals and the planet. Unless you are starting a shoe company, then fuck everything. Make some money. It is good."
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And then there’s the fact that Last Resort AB was made in Portugal. So that was kinda confusing too. Wish I’d got them before.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BqaXUkXBYff/?igshid=1ki862g9rh2o6
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bol0OR1Fa_0/?igshid=ztfznrqyzqpx
https://www.instagram.com/p/B1vsVqoi6HU/?igshid=
https://www.instagram.com/p/B3JyjvQiG1O/?igshid=1nwjxaudlk6hb
https://www.instagram.com/p/B2yU-U_JRzG/?igshid=8n2tvk6bwgl
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So he basically took his ethically made friend business and make the exact same shoes for half the price using sweatshops ?
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No shipping to Australia. That counts out approximately 1/3 of Slap. I wonder if shops that have an account with the Polar distro will be able to get these in?
Why thank you for remembering us
No doubt we’ll get torn a new asshole on the price also
Project is distributing them (which is surprising as they don’t do polar). It seems like majority of shops with a project account are getting them in. They will be out Saturday in Aus.
I’m a bit late to the party as it seems, but good thing my housemate rides for project... bit weird 4128 didn’t pick it up though ???
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Are all the shoes made in vietnam now? Or maybe just the skate ones? He talked about wanting to make a skate specific shoe with a retail price under 100 euros. Not easy to do that in portugal.
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to be fair, he did not directly state they are going to produced in portugal, did he? only that he knows a guy whos producing stuff in portugal and as long as he gets him shoes under 100$ he's in... I did understand it as all of you nonetheless
Yeah, maybe you’re right. But when I read that interview it didn’t scream sweatshop in Vietnam. I guess that’s the power of marketing/pr. I mean how does what Pontus said below match up with shipping stock back and forth across the world to exploit labour laws for an inferior product. What he said is kinda the opposite to what he did. Hey, I get it, profits/capitalism/business, that’s the world. Everyones doing it, and if you want to compete then you have too. I’m just bummed, I was really psyched on it and bought into and believed what he was saying. It’s just a let down from the build up. I thought it was going to be something different, but it’s just another option of the same (except without the swoosh, stripes, star). I’m sure they’ll be great.
”Right now, one year ago I moved to Portugal, Porto...I’m close to my production, a lot of my Polar stuff is made here around the corner, 40 minutes away. It’s nice to be close to that and have a daily check in. It’s easy, if there’s a problem I just go up there or they come down. They show me the problem and we solve it instead of shipping stuff back and forth to Sweden.
Let’s try and be nice to each other and make this a nice lovable place. Instead we have full on power, capitalism going out of control. It’s not a nice direction where our planet is heading and I think every human on this planet right now is feeling quite anxious about the situation. What the fuck!
Try to be positive, the planet is heading in a dark direction and we humans have to change it on a day to day level. It’s important on a daily level just to be nice to the next man, treat each other well and that’s all. Skate more, try to have fun. Love more, hate less and be fucking blessed that we are here still. Try to cut down your pollutions. Drive less, skate more. Fly less, cycle more. Eat more vegetarian food. Buy vintage or high quality garments. Recycle what you can and support local near by production”
Im with you in this one, I expected something else as well.. maybe it is just to start the company and later on move production elsewhere?
side note: it just reminded me of this thing with george bush and the (allegedely)existence weapons of mass destruction in iraq. I read somewhere that someone analyzed most of bush's speeches and he allegedely never explicitly stated that the USA attacks iraq because of weapons of mass destruction but only because these aspects are presented next to eachother the human brain builds inferences that are mostly causal resulting in a connection between the iraq war and these weapons.
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to be fair, he did not directly state they are going to produced in portugal, did he? only that he knows a guy whos producing stuff in portugal and as long as he gets him shoes under 100$ he's in... I did understand it as all of you nonetheless
Yeah, maybe you’re right. But when I read that interview it didn’t scream sweatshop in Vietnam. I guess that’s the power of marketing/pr. I mean how does what Pontus said below match up with shipping stock back and forth across the world to exploit labour laws for an inferior product. What he said is kinda the opposite to what he did. Hey, I get it, profits/capitalism/business, that’s the world. Everyones doing it, and if you want to compete then you have too. I’m just bummed, I was really psyched on it and bought into and believed what he was saying. It’s just a let down from the build up. I thought it was going to be something different, but it’s just another option of the same (except without the swoosh, stripes, star). I’m sure they’ll be great.
”Right now, one year ago I moved to Portugal, Porto...I’m close to my production, a lot of my Polar stuff is made here around the corner, 40 minutes away. It’s nice to be close to that and have a daily check in. It’s easy, if there’s a problem I just go up there or they come down. They show me the problem and we solve it instead of shipping stuff back and forth to Sweden.
Let’s try and be nice to each other and make this a nice lovable place. Instead we have full on power, capitalism going out of control. It’s not a nice direction where our planet is heading and I think every human on this planet right now is feeling quite anxious about the situation. What the fuck!
Try to be positive, the planet is heading in a dark direction and we humans have to change it on a day to day level. It’s important on a daily level just to be nice to the next man, treat each other well and that’s all. Skate more, try to have fun. Love more, hate less and be fucking blessed that we are here still. Try to cut down your pollutions. Drive less, skate more. Fly less, cycle more. Eat more vegetarian food. Buy vintage or high quality garments. Recycle what you can and support local near by production”
Im with you in this one, I expected something else as well.. maybe it is just to start the company and later on move production elsewhere?
side note: it just reminded me of this thing with george bush and the (allegedely)existence weapons of mass destruction in iraq. I read somewhere that someone analyzed most of bush's speeches and he allegedely never explicitly stated that the USA attacks iraq because of weapons of mass destruction but only because these aspects are presented next to eachother the human brain builds inferences that are mostly causal resulting in a connection between the iraq war and these weapons.
Plot twist - Company was started made in Portugal 2+ years ago (see my post above). Peter Bici approved!
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to be fair, he did not directly state they are going to produced in portugal, did he? only that he knows a guy whos producing stuff in portugal and as long as he gets him shoes under 100$ he's in... I did understand it as all of you nonetheless
Yeah, maybe you’re right. But when I read that interview it didn’t scream sweatshop in Vietnam. I guess that’s the power of marketing/pr. I mean how does what Pontus said below match up with shipping stock back and forth across the world to exploit labour laws for an inferior product. What he said is kinda the opposite to what he did. Hey, I get it, profits/capitalism/business, that’s the world. Everyones doing it, and if you want to compete then you have too. I’m just bummed, I was really psyched on it and bought into and believed what he was saying. It’s just a let down from the build up. I thought it was going to be something different, but it’s just another option of the same (except without the swoosh, stripes, star). I’m sure they’ll be great.
”Right now, one year ago I moved to Portugal, Porto...I’m close to my production, a lot of my Polar stuff is made here around the corner, 40 minutes away. It’s nice to be close to that and have a daily check in. It’s easy, if there’s a problem I just go up there or they come down. They show me the problem and we solve it instead of shipping stuff back and forth to Sweden.
Let’s try and be nice to each other and make this a nice lovable place. Instead we have full on power, capitalism going out of control. It’s not a nice direction where our planet is heading and I think every human on this planet right now is feeling quite anxious about the situation. What the fuck!
Try to be positive, the planet is heading in a dark direction and we humans have to change it on a day to day level. It’s important on a daily level just to be nice to the next man, treat each other well and that’s all. Skate more, try to have fun. Love more, hate less and be fucking blessed that we are here still. Try to cut down your pollutions. Drive less, skate more. Fly less, cycle more. Eat more vegetarian food. Buy vintage or high quality garments. Recycle what you can and support local near by production”
Im with you in this one, I expected something else as well.. maybe it is just to start the company and later on move production elsewhere?
side note: it just reminded me of this thing with george bush and the (allegedely)existence weapons of mass destruction in iraq. I read somewhere that someone analyzed most of bush's speeches and he allegedely never explicitly stated that the USA attacks iraq because of weapons of mass destruction but only because these aspects are presented next to eachother the human brain builds inferences that are mostly causal resulting in a connection between the iraq war and these weapons.
Plot twist - Company was started made in Portugal 2+ years ago (see my post above). Peter Bici approved!
haha, yes! i meant, 'start' as in accumulate money/ credibility for banks or such
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Was going to post this in the upcoming shoe thread but probably better of here.
Has anyone actually skated Simples? Larry looks like he’s about to fucking rip. Sick pants too.
Need a photoshop of him on a board ASAP. Who’s up to the task?
These sort of look like an Era Pro fucked a Simple and skidoo'd outta there to avoid being responsible for this child.
(https://simpleshoes.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834515ef569e2012875707b4b970c-600wi)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/L6vJTaIltMEg72lmDxU7GYjspRgI0NvnOAxxzH0SARGHav0JNIKo_rW_7TcHivJ-1M0VIeLFnH3xYi_c2B_6XRhQoWsNQODl52E40dSjTL3du0FvXA-kHmJwWeC00IdMUsQOB3IxNJu47FUJfmHBYg)
Was going to post this in the upcoming shoe thread but probably better of here.
Has anyone actually skated Simples? Larry looks like he’s about to fucking rip. Sick pants too.
Need a photoshop of him on a board ASAP. Who’s up to the task?
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These sort of look like an Era Pro fucked a Simple and skidoo'd outta there to avoid being responsible for this child.
(https://simpleshoes.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834515ef569e2012875707b4b970c-600wi)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/L6vJTaIltMEg72lmDxU7GYjspRgI0NvnOAxxzH0SARGHav0JNIKo_rW_7TcHivJ-1M0VIeLFnH3xYi_c2B_6XRhQoWsNQODl52E40dSjTL3du0FvXA-kHmJwWeC00IdMUsQOB3IxNJu47FUJfmHBYg)
Yea I mean like recently, anyone on slap.
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seasons has them listed on their site for $85 and as "coming soon"
https://seasonsskateshop.bigcartel.com/ (https://seasonsskateshop.bigcartel.com/)
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Sorry, yeah same here. I'd love to know if they're actually decent to skate in. Same with Airwalks. Who knows, they look the same but are made out of who knows what.
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Yea I mean like recently, anyone on slap.
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Sorry, yeah same here. I'd love to know if they're actually decent to skate in. Same with Airwalks. Who knows, they look the same but are made out of who knows what.
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Yea I mean like recently, anyone on slap.
I’m keen to try them for sure. They look great, good reviews and price - mids look comfy as (under $60 with firstorder 20% discount).
https://simpleshoes.com/collections/sale/products/retro-91-mid-black
Works for Julien...
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7tZKhCFx39/?igshid=q7rwto1ytvj3
And this guy! Fuck, if you can kick around a longboard then Im sure they’ll be fine!
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-uIG6_p9UU/?igshid=1e1tk36rsgxmy
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They’re up. $85/£70/€82. https://www.lastresortab.com/
• Suede Upper
• Canvas Lining
• PU Collar
• Rubber Sole & Foxing
• Cotton Laces
• Made in Vietnam
Not for me, but I hope people like them and sells well.
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Bought myself a black pair and some socks.
Had to.
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All the stuff about being skater owned, ethically produced (maybe not now it's Vietnam production) and a good fight that needs taking to the big boys aside.... (all things I'm stoked on)
They're still just regular skate shoes. Like 70% of the shoes out there, they're Vans basically. And not having a logo that can be easily seen in footage and photos is damn near suicidal. Unless you have very, very regular content of your own coming out (which I doubt there's budget for) then your shoes are unrecognisable in all the other edits that they could crop up in.
"Are they Vans maybe?" Goes to Vans store.
Not having your shoes do their own marketing in other companies edits is something that the most of the existing shoe brands have mastered. Go watch virtually any edit out now that doesn't belong to a shoe brand and you'll see swooshes, 3 stripes, Vans wavy line thing, Lakai's Flare, etc, etc. All those are helping those brand get seen over and over again. These shoes are practically invisible.
But, I hope it works out. This is just my observation.
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All the stuff about being skater owned, ethically produced (maybe not now it's Vietnam production) and a good fight that needs taking to the big boys aside.... (all things I'm stoked on)
They're still just regular skate shoes. Like 70% of the shoes out there, they're Vans basically. And not having a logo that can be easily seen in footage and photos is damn near suicidal. Unless you have very, very regular content of your own coming out (which I doubt there's budget for) then your shoes are unrecognisable in all the other edits that they could crop up in.
"Are they Vans maybe?" Goes to Vans store.
Not having your shoes do their own marketing in other companies edits is something that the most of the existing shoe brands have mastered. Go watch virtually any edit out now that doesn't belong to a shoe brand and you'll see swooshes, 3 stripes, Vans wavy line thing, Lakai's Flare, etc, etc. All those are helping those brand get seen over and over again. These shoes are practically invisible.
But, I hope it works out. This is just my observation.
There's a market for those who just can't bear logo shoes in skate videos anymore. At least I know people regularly bring it up and myself I've been part of that demographic for years. In my opinion it just pollutes the skating and turns what could be interesting footage into a bland commercial (which is a fine step to take but then you lose me and many others), when business ties are too obvious the sincerity of a production is diminished, and most skaters still want to see sincerity in footage whether or not they intellectualize it. When I see videos chockfull of folks in Nikes, Vans or Adidas that look like they were designed to scream nothing but brand name on footage, part of me can't help but register it as orchestrated and feel like I'm watching some sort of Zumiez production that's completely disconnected from the relatable realities of daily skateboarding by the people. I don't think I'm the only one and if anything I'm observing that skaters in general are growing tired of obnoxious logos and aggressive marketing general again - it's up to those brands to catch up, I think Pontus is the one up to date here. A lot of classic, popular skate shoes were recognizable by their silhouette only and didn't feature prominent logos, in a sense those are actually bad marketing if you're trying to cater to skateboarders and not mall kids, and also a sign of weakness somewhere in the actual product if that's what the brand has got to rely on.
Kinda bummed about the possible production relocation too, a lot of the appeal of this to me was the made-in-Europe thing too. On the other hand it's still a Pontus project and the man has always been avant-garde, so it'll probably retain my interest still. I guess just wait and see.
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Was going to post this in the upcoming shoe thread but probably better of here.
Has anyone actually skated Simples? Larry looks like he’s about to fucking rip. Sick pants too.
Need a photoshop of him on a board ASAP. Who’s up to the task?
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These sort of look like an Era Pro fucked a Simple and skidoo'd outta there to avoid being responsible for this child.
(https://simpleshoes.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834515ef569e2012875707b4b970c-600wi)
My first skate shoes were Simple. I distinctly remember nagging my mom to buy them because of this Gonz ad.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ifzvtTpNewo/T0v6HmMEKPI/AAAAAAAACJE/7KD_OxP6jTY/s1600/markgonzales12.jpg)
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Bought myself a black pair and some socks.
Had to.
Soooo give us some report asap! How is the insole? Do they fit as narrow as they look?
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And not having a logo that can be easily seen in footage and photos is damn near suicidal.
Nah, logos are horrible. There's some great footage that's a bit hard to stomach for me because it's full of swooshes and giant N's and stripes.
People will eat these up because of the Pontus association and Polar is one of the trendiest companies around.
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Bought myself a black pair and some socks.
Had to.
Soooo give us some report asap! How is the insole? Do they fit as narrow as they look?
The only thing I can report about is that they are 82€ on their web but 80€ on every retailer website.
Have I been ripped off?
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No size 13 which sucks. Seems like 12 the biggest
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All the stuff about being skater owned, ethically produced (maybe not now it's Vietnam production) and a good fight that needs taking to the big boys aside.... (all things I'm stoked on)
They're still just regular skate shoes. Like 70% of the shoes out there, they're Vans basically. And not having a logo that can be easily seen in footage and photos is damn near suicidal. Unless you have very, very regular content of your own coming out (which I doubt there's budget for) then your shoes are unrecognisable in all the other edits that they could crop up in.
"Are they Vans maybe?" Goes to Vans store.
Not having your shoes do their own marketing in other companies edits is something that the most of the existing shoe brands have mastered. Go watch virtually any edit out now that doesn't belong to a shoe brand and you'll see swooshes, 3 stripes, Vans wavy line thing, Lakai's Flare, etc, etc. All those are helping those brand get seen over and over again. These shoes are practically invisible.
But, I hope it works out. This is just my observation.
There's a market for those who just can't bear logo shoes in skate videos anymore. At least I know people regularly bring it up and myself I've been part of that demographic for years. In my opinion it just pollutes the skating and turns what could be interesting footage into a bland commercial (which is a fine step to take but then you lose me and many others), when business ties are too obvious the sincerity of a production is diminished, and most skaters still want to see sincerity in footage whether or not they intellectualize it. When I see videos chockfull of folks in Nikes, Vans or Adidas that look like they were designed to scream nothing but brand name on footage, part of me can't help but register it as orchestrated and feel like I'm watching some sort of Zumiez production that's completely disconnected from the relatable realities of daily skateboarding by the people. I don't think I'm the only one and if anything I'm observing that skaters in general are growing tired of obnoxious logos and aggressive marketing general again - it's up to those brands to catch up, I think Pontus is the one up to date here. A lot of classic, popular skate shoes were recognizable by their silhouette only and didn't feature prominent logos, in a sense those are actually bad marketing if you're trying to cater to skateboarders and not mall kids, and also a sign of weakness somewhere in the actual product if that's what the brand has got to rely on.
Kinda bummed about the possible production relocation too, a lot of the appeal of this to me was the made-in-Europe thing too. On the other hand it's still a Pontus project and the man has always been avant-garde, so it'll probably retain my interest still. I guess just wait and see.
Not here to beef, just discuss but I think you have a rose tinted idea of how and why skateboard media exists. In a nutshell, it's almost ALL marketing. Mags, videos, IG accounts are all trying to sell you something. Always have, ever since the dawn of the business.
Haven't you ever noticed that teams are organised by brands and not geography or some other factor? We're all used to there being a Zero team, a Polar team, a Vans team, an OJ team, etc. There's no Denver team or Miami team - teams in skateboarding don't exist for anything other than marketing for a brand.
And magazines don't just happen to have an interview with just any old skater for the most part - that person is in there for several reasons but a big one is because the brand/s he or she rides for advertises in that mag. Same with the websites where you watch your favourite edits. I realise this isn't a hard and fast rule but you know it's true for the most part.
It's possible that on any given day that the edits you'll see on Thrasher or elsewhere are mostly produced or funded by a brand. Right now there's Herman's Baker 4 part, Lucas Puig's new Adidas part, John Gardner's OJ part and yes there are also some, what you might call 'indie' videos up there today too but in this day and age it's highly likely that some company's money went into paying for a plane ticket or a hotel room for somebody in those vids. I realise that scene vids exist to support and hype the scene but many feature people who are sponsored at a flow level at the very least - which of course is still marketing.
You say that most edits you see look like orchestrated marketing efforts - and they are, it's obvious. The whole of the skateboard media in all it's many forms is one big marketing push. The majority of what you see in photos and edits today isn't just for the culture, it's an advertisement. Has been since at least the 70's and 80s. You'd be hard pressed to find ANY video or magazine editorial that doesn't feature a logo on somebody, it's how skateboarding has been designed and refined over several decades. You'll have a hard time trying to find a logo-free, marketing-free, just-for-the-culture world of skateboarding - somebody wants to sell you something!
Kind of ironic that we're discussing a shoe brand with no big logos and how that's refreshing when actually, they're still trying to sell you some shoes ;)
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Almost pulled the trigger on the green pair until i realized its $25 shipping to the US smh
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Almost pulled the trigger on the green pair until i realized its $25 shipping to the US smh
Go to the black sheep shop website, free shipping over $80 in the US. I got a black pair.
https://blacksheepskateshop.com/collections/latest
They ship super fast too.
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Fuck these things look awful. Narrow. Those laces! What the fuck? Someone bring back Dukes and make the first Jeremy Wray shoe stat.
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my local got em in and i will check em out tomorrow i think. but i might wait for another model to purchase tbh. would like to support, but just not too excited about the shoe. i dig the green ones a bit more, they are funky. i don't mess with yellow shoes, black ones are rather boring.
i don't know why but i have a feeling this model will look shitty and blown out in the front when worn in... it looks a bit stubby.
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@JohnOakley I appreciate you taking the time to try and break things down for me, although one wrong in your logic here is assuming that personally I'm not aware of all of the orchestration and fabrication already - I've been working in skate media for years and in skating in general for over a decade, so I'm aware of the system in place, I'm exposed to it every day and I can assure you your maybe's aren't just maybe's, a lot of professional skateboarding is a joke. That being said, I still do believe big logos are poor marketing and a short-lived business strategy (relying on mass culture trends as opposed to your specialized target demographic), so not a necessity. These days you have a clear dichotomy between what most big names in the industry are pushing vs. what the actual, daily skateboarder really wants to see, although those generally look content with just crumbs, they shouldn't and would deserve to get the real thing because why the heck not. It's pretty clear to me that Pontus is on that second boat, so it makes complete sense he wouldn't make logo shoes and repeat both the competition's designs and mistakes. Now I think why an everyday, non-sponsored skater would even care for seeing logos on shoes would be a better question to ponder and deconstruct (not a personal attack or anything, surely there has to be reasons nowadays but if you take a second look at each and every one of them you'll probably realize they're made in Vietnam too).
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@JohnOakley I appreciate you taking the time to try and break things down for me, although one wrong in your logic here is assuming that personally I'm not aware of all of the orchestration and fabrication already - I've been working in skate media for years and in skating in general for over a decade, so I'm aware of the system in place, I'm exposed to it every day and I can assure you your maybe's aren't just maybe's, a lot of professional skateboarding is a joke. That being said, I still do believe big logos are poor marketing and a short-lived business strategy (relying on mass culture trends as opposed to your specialized target demographic), so not a necessity. These days you have a clear dichotomy between what most big names in the industry are pushing vs. what the actual, daily skateboarder really wants to see, although they generally look content with just crumbs, they shouldn't. It's pretty clear Pontus is on the second boat, so to me it makes complete sense he wouldn't make logo shoes and repeat both the competition's designs and mistakes. Now I think why an everyday, non-sponsored skater would even care for seeing logos on shoes would be a better question to ponder (not a personal attack or anything, surely there has to be reasons nowadays but if you take a second look at each and everyone of them you'll probably realize they're made in Vietnam too).
I'm with you here.
It's like saying that if Tony Hawk doesn't have Birdhouse tees on at all times, not everybody is going to notice his board, because it's upside down the whole time.... Hence no marketing?
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It's like saying that if Tony Hawk doesn't have Birdhouse tees on at all times, not everybody is going to notice his board, because it's upside down the whole time.... Hence no marketing?
That actually might be a potential niche for a sister brand called qirdhouse.
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At first glance those Larry David shoes looked like rowans.
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@JohnOakley I appreciate you taking the time to try and break things down for me, although one wrong in your logic here is assuming that personally I'm not aware of all of the orchestration and fabrication already - I've been working in skate media for years and in skating in general for over a decade, so I'm aware of the system in place, I'm exposed to it every day and I can assure you your maybe's aren't just maybe's, a lot of professional skateboarding is a joke. That being said, I still do believe big logos are poor marketing and a short-lived business strategy (relying on mass culture trends as opposed to your specialized target demographic), so not a necessity. These days you have a clear dichotomy between what most big names in the industry are pushing vs. what the actual, daily skateboarder really wants to see, although those generally look content with just crumbs, they shouldn't and would deserve to get the real thing because why the heck not. It's pretty clear to me that Pontus is on that second boat, so it makes complete sense he wouldn't make logo shoes and repeat both the competition's designs and mistakes. Now I think why an everyday, non-sponsored skater would even care for seeing logos on shoes would be a better question to ponder and deconstruct (not a personal attack or anything, surely there has to be reasons nowadays but if you take a second look at each and every one of them you'll probably realize they're made in Vietnam too).
OK, I get where you're coming from but it seems a like quite a little niche compared to how skateboarding has developed over the many years. Skateboarding is aspirational, so are clothes for a lot of people. In the money orientated world we live in people aspire to owning a pair Nikes or Vans if they see their favourite pro wearing them. OR even without even seeing that - when you're a little kid who got bought cheap generic sneakers you aspire to the pair of Jordans or whatever the kids at school have got. You pay for that swoosh or stripe. I'd go as far as to suggest that the majority of skateboarders want some branding or graphics for their money.
I too have been into skateboarding and it's business for a looong time - long enough to remember sanding the graphics off my boards, peeling the stripes off my Gazelles and wearing a generic stripey tee 'cos that's what I saw in Love Child or whatever. The thing is, at that time the skateboard industry was tiny with nobody making much money out of it at all and we're well past those days. Now, in order to survive or go up against the big boys in the shoe game I honestly think that you need more than a blank shoe to stand a chance.
I'd actually love to be proved wrong of course - I have no vested interest in or real love for the shoe giants and love to see skater owned companies going for it - I'm just being realistic after having seen what's happened in skateboarding since I began, all those hundreds of years ago.
Pontus is a good guy and I hope this brand succeeds, honestly. :)
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Almost pulled the trigger on the green pair until i realized its $25 shipping to the US smh
Go to the black sheep shop website, free shipping over $80 in the US. I got a black pair.
https://blacksheepskateshop.com/collections/latest
They ship super fast too.
every shop i check in the US doesnt have 9.5, its probably smart for me to wait for the highs considering i wont be able to skate the lows
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OK, I get where you're coming from but it seems a like quite a little niche compared to how skateboarding has developed over the many years. Skateboarding is aspirational, so are clothes for a lot of people. In the money orientated world we live in people aspire to owning a pair Nikes or Vans if they see their favourite pro wearing them. OR even without even seeing that - when you're a little kid who got bought cheap generic sneakers you aspire to the pair of Jordans or whatever the kids at school have got. You pay for that swoosh or stripe. I'd go as far as to suggest that the majority of skateboarders want some branding or graphics for their money.
I too have been into skateboarding and it's business for a looong time - long enough to remember sanding the graphics off my boards, peeling the stripes off my Gazelles and wearing a generic stripey tee 'cos that's what I saw in Love Child or whatever. The thing is, at that time the skateboard industry was tiny with nobody making much money out of it at all and we're well past those days. Now, in order to survive or go up against the big boys in the shoe game I honestly think that you need more than a blank shoe to stand a chance.
Bit of your sentence I put in bold I think could generate a lot of discussion, but for now I'll just say I'm not totally convinced by the validity of that statement of yours there. Are you certain?
For the rest, yeah I more or less figured that was your stance. But why would circular economy within skateboarding and skateboarders be impossible nowadays, just because now there also happens to exist what's essentially a parallel market for it that's being exploited by corporations targeting non-skateboarders? The classic model is still viable, as still proven on the daily by every skater-owned operation that remains afloat - except most people overlook their existence due to being distracted by mainstream facades. The tiny skateboarding industry you speak of still exists to this day with plenty of individuals doing cool stuff everywhere; granted not so much in the shoe market as it's less accessible but even there you have brands like State and Proper, and now this one, out of other examples. And those don't have to go up against anyone in terms of marketing either, because most often they will care about the needs of their core niche over capturing the attention of always more and more randoms. For those I'm not so sure that just making shoes really suffices to put them in the same arena as big sporting goods companies; similarly to how one can't say Sheep or even I-Path ever actively tried to go against Nike for instance. The target demographic is just too specialized.
Skateboarding being mainstream means a shit ton of money for those enjoying the wild fire right now, but also more people getting exposed to it that occasionally won't succumb to its merciless marketing and superficial presentation, and eventually fall into it long term, then in turn contributing to the culture with their own thing too, just far out of sight for those staring at the gigantic Nike and Vans shop windows; so, there always will be authentic lifers feeding that comparatively small niche and keeping it alive, as now that's an organic phenomenon and nothing fabricated around fashion. There's just no doing away with the circular model regardless of how established names would love to, because it's the same basic human logic of self-sustenance that leads the average customer to go wherever their specialized needs can best be actually addressed that was already there before we apparently got distracted.
tl;dr it's all still the same shit, don't let the clutter fool you. The power of marketing is so strong it can lead one to forget there even are alternatives.
Also just an extra observation - I never ever looked up to other kids wearing Nikes at school. I was actually stoked when I started skating to find out about brands like éS and be able to 'represent' something different (on a very naive scale).
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@JohnOakley I appreciate you taking the time to try and break things down for me, although one wrong in your logic here is assuming that personally I'm not aware of all of the orchestration and fabrication already - I've been working in skate media for years and in skating in general for over a decade, so I'm aware of the system in place, I'm exposed to it every day and I can assure you your maybe's aren't just maybe's, a lot of professional skateboarding is a joke. That being said, I still do believe big logos are poor marketing and a short-lived business strategy (relying on mass culture trends as opposed to your specialized target demographic), so not a necessity. These days you have a clear dichotomy between what most big names in the industry are pushing vs. what the actual, daily skateboarder really wants to see, although those generally look content with just crumbs, they shouldn't and would deserve to get the real thing because why the heck not. It's pretty clear to me that Pontus is on that second boat, so it makes complete sense he wouldn't make logo shoes and repeat both the competition's designs and mistakes. Now I think why an everyday, non-sponsored skater would even care for seeing logos on shoes would be a better question to ponder and deconstruct (not a personal attack or anything, surely there has to be reasons nowadays but if you take a second look at each and every one of them you'll probably realize they're made in Vietnam too).
I'd go as far as to suggest that the majority of skateboarders want some branding or graphics for their money.
Nope. I just want something that is functional and that lasts/looks good etc.
I'm not paying for logos.
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Anyone else noticed the Vans Salman Agah vibes here? Good to see euro riders building their thing.
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I ordered a pair in my size (11.5) because I was told they run true to size. They arrived today and are too big. Now I cant find a pair of 11's in any color :-[
Anyone need a pair of the mustard yellows that fit like a 12?
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If pontus manage to get a good team the brand would be a stand out. I really like the minimalistic design and would buy one if it wasn't 500 bucks here in Brazil (1 dollar=5R$). It appeals to my taste and i would like to support skater owned brands. We don't have emericas here in Brazil and the local brands have shitty design and no quality.
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Someone bring back Dukes and make the first Jeremy Wray shoe stat.
That shoe was fucking magical
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Someone bring back Dukes and make the first Jeremy Wray shoe stat.
Was Dukes a side company out of Duffs? That was just before I started skating
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Fuck me but I actually liked Duffs back in the day because Matt Hensley was on, so to naive teenage me it was the best. I had a few pairs of the shoes back in the mid naughts and a college-style hoodie the label with the washing instructions of which just said 'when it stinks, wash it'.
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Anyone else noticed the Vans Salman Agah vibes here? Good to see euro riders building their thing.
AB-solutely. It's way more that first Agah shoe minus the toecap than it is a cons one-star.
Edit: I'm with Silhouette on the clean shoe argument. Also, while I can understand how someone might think of skating as aspirational--I'd say Stevie Williams could be a good example of that--it's definitely not that for many of us.
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Fuck these things look awful.
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I ordered a pair in my size (11.5) because I was told they run true to size. They arrived today and are too big. Now I cant find a pair of 11's in any color :-[
Anyone need a pair of the mustard yellows that fit like a 12?
I've been very confused with the sizing. It appears a lot of shops had a 10.5 and a 11.5, but no 11.
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I ordered a pair in my size (11.5) because I was told they run true to size. They arrived today and are too big. Now I cant find a pair of 11's in any color :-[
Anyone need a pair of the mustard yellows that fit like a 12?
I've been very confused with the sizing. It appears a lot of shops had a 10.5 and a 11.5, but no 11.
I noticed that too. A pair of the yellow ones popped up on the brand website today in 44.5 EU (US 11),
so hopefully those exist, and Ill report back on the fit when I get them.
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i never saw those sizes in the first run
lucky my 10.5 fits
(https://i.postimg.cc/6q1Jpqx7/BB3653-E5-CAE5-4-B41-A1-D4-D950-D2325928.jpg)
toebox is snug, not uncomfortable, heel locks. looks dope.
the laces seem to sit off to the side, they remind me of soccer cleats in that respect. or, maybe im trippin
dont knock it til you try it i guess
cant wait to skate em
(https://i.postimg.cc/FFPQZWk9/E40-C7-AA4-4382-43-D1-836-F-E3314-EBF89-FF.jpg)
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Cleannnn and materials/QC look great. thicker laces are a nice touch
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They look way better on those pictures than some I saw online.
I also saw a few pictures of the mid top on Instagram and they look very nice.
I'm on this vegan shoes boat though, so I'm gonna need to wait until 3rd drop...
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I bought em and can confirm they look great and feel great.
But get why people wouldn’t like them.
I don’t think I’ll skate in them Tbh
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Pics are looking clean. Would love to see how they look after a few sessions.
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Just bought the yellow colorway from Cowtown. If these skate and last anywhere near blazers I will fully back these. Would gladly pay 10 more bucks just to know who I’m supporting. Hopefully they skate well. Those pics look good I’m hyped.
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Just bought the yellow colorway from Cowtown. If these skate and last anywhere near blazers I will fully back these. Would gladly pay 10 more bucks just to know who I’m supporting. Hopefully they skate well. Those pics look good I’m hyped.
Doesn’t Pontus have a sketchy rep? People have been alluding to it for years on here
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Just bought the yellow colorway from Cowtown. If these skate and last anywhere near blazers I will fully back these. Would gladly pay 10 more bucks just to know who I’m supporting. Hopefully they skate well. Those pics look good I’m hyped.
Doesn’t Pontus have a sketchy rep? People have been alluding to it for years on here
Couldn’t be any more sketchy than Nike’s slave labor practices... then again I’m not filled in on the details, so I could be wrong?
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Just bought the yellow colorway from Cowtown. If these skate and last anywhere near blazers I will fully back these. Would gladly pay 10 more bucks just to know who I’m supporting. Hopefully they skate well. Those pics look good I’m hyped.
Doesn’t Pontus have a sketchy rep? People have been alluding to it for years on here
yeahhhhh....
he's produced great work and is kind of a skating auteur but...
not a great dude from what I've heard regarding riders (Cyrus, Andrew Wilson) leaving and Polar's exit from Theories.
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I hear Pontus is all in on the idea of Polar riders having an active Instagram account and the dudes who aren’t into that bounce. Other than that I haven’t heard anything bad or shady.
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i never saw those sizes in the first run
lucky my 10.5 fits
(https://i.postimg.cc/6q1Jpqx7/BB3653-E5-CAE5-4-B41-A1-D4-D950-D2325928.jpg)
toebox is snug, not uncomfortable, heel locks. looks dope.
the laces seem to sit off to the side, they remind me of soccer cleats in that respect. or, maybe im trippin
dont knock it til you try it i guess
cant wait to skate em
(https://i.postimg.cc/FFPQZWk9/E40-C7-AA4-4382-43-D1-836-F-E3314-EBF89-FF.jpg)
Do they fit like a Chuck? True to size?
If they don’t feel like a Con, is there anything you could equate them to?
I personally like how they look, but have never been able to wear Cons due to my foot shape.
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Just bought the yellow colorway from Cowtown. If these skate and last anywhere near blazers I will fully back these. Would gladly pay 10 more bucks just to know who I’m supporting. Hopefully they skate well. Those pics look good I’m hyped.
Doesn’t Pontus have a sketchy rep? People have been alluding to it for years on here
He's crazy but the right type of crazy in my opinion - the kind skateboarding needs to bring originality to the table. Super dedicated to his vision of skating and of what the ideal brand should be (which you have to be if you're going to start one, or several), which occasionally clashes with people, there are some funny stories but nothing extraordinarily indecent that I know of. Think Puleo with business sense, and socially harmless, who also used to film his dick. Also a phenomenal skateboarder in person.
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I’ve heard sketchy Pontus rumors about him not being able to come back to the states.
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I’ve heard sketchy Pontus rumors about him not being able to come back to the states.
Such as
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Just bought the yellow colorway from Cowtown. If these skate and last anywhere near blazers I will fully back these. Would gladly pay 10 more bucks just to know who I’m supporting. Hopefully they skate well. Those pics look good I’m hyped.
Doesn’t Pontus have a sketchy rep? People have been alluding to it for years on here
He's crazy but the right type of crazy in my opinion - the kind skateboarding needs to bring originality to the table. Super dedicated to his vision of skating and of what the ideal brand should be (which you have to be if you're going to start one, or several), which occasionally clashes with people, there are some funny stories but nothing extraordinarily indecent that I know of. Think Puleo with business sense, and socially harmless, who also used to film his dick. Also a phenomenal skateboarder in person.
I remember being a younger teen and getting a copy of 'strongest of the strange', put that shit in only to see it opening with super 8 footage of a man in white long johns with a covered face dropping his pants and showing his dick. I was very confused as the last video I got before that was Almost round 3 and Flip Really Sorry.
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I’ve heard sketchy Pontus rumors about him not being able to come back to the states.
heh why would he want to with the way shit is going here
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Just bought the yellow colorway from Cowtown. If these skate and last anywhere near blazers I will fully back these. Would gladly pay 10 more bucks just to know who I’m supporting. Hopefully they skate well. Those pics look good I’m hyped.
Doesn’t Pontus have a sketchy rep? People have been alluding to it for years on here
He's crazy but the right type of crazy in my opinion - the kind skateboarding needs to bring originality to the table. Super dedicated to his vision of skating and of what the ideal brand should be (which you have to be if you're going to start one, or several), which occasionally clashes with people, there are some funny stories but nothing extraordinarily indecent that I know of. Think Puleo with business sense, and socially harmless, who also used to film his dick. Also a phenomenal skateboarder in person.
I remember being a younger teen and getting a copy of 'strongest of the strange', put that shit in only to see it opening with super 8 footage of a man in white long johns with a covered face dropping his pants and showing his dick. I was very confused as the last video I got before that was Almost round 3 and Flip Really Sorry.
https://vimeo.com/14367478
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Haha yea, that's the one.
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SOTS is the greatest skateboard film ever. fite me.
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SOTS is the greatest skateboard film ever. fite me.
Oh, for one I certainly won't fight you over this. Honestly I always found it kind of crazy how people used to worship In Search Of The Miraculous all the while having never seen the first film, which I find is so much more authentic.
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more shit made in China... but it's sk8r owned!
make a team, pay them an awesome wage. maybe give them health insurance.
Otherwise, this, like every other brand is no different than Lakai Korea.
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more shit made in China... but it's sk8r owned!
make a team, pay them an awesome wage. maybe give them health insurance.
Otherwise, this, like every other brand is no different than Lakai Korea.
What's so fucking wrong with 'Lakai Korea"?
I'm skating two pairs at the moment. Amazing shoes.
You've been brain washed by the corpos to think skate shoes are bad. You just buy those sneakers nike makes.
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more shit made in China... but it's sk8r owned!
make a team, pay them an awesome wage. maybe give them health insurance.
Otherwise, this, like every other brand is no different than Lakai Korea.
China =/= Vietnam
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more shit made in China... but it's sk8r owned!
make a team, pay them an awesome wage. maybe give them health insurance.
Otherwise, this, like every other brand is no different than Lakai Korea.
What's so fucking wrong with 'Lakai Korea"?
I'm skating two pairs at the moment. Amazing shoes.
You've been brain washed by the corpos to think skate shoes are bad. You just buy those sneakers nike makes.
absolutely nothing.
im saying ppl that care about 'sk8er owned' are dumbasses
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Anyone else noticed the Vans Salman Agah vibes here? Good to see euro riders building their thing.
AB-solutely. It's way more that first Agah shoe minus the toecap than it is a cons one-star.
Edit: I'm with Silhouette on the clean shoe argument. Also, while I can understand how someone might think of skating as aspirational--I'd say Stevie Williams could be a good example of that--it's definitely not that for many of us.
Glad I'm not the only one. This is exactly what I described them as. I'm game but don't want to order online, would rather try on.
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Tried a pair on last week and was really impressed with the quality.
They fit true to size in my opinion and felt great right off the bat. Hoping my local shop still has a pair in my size come Friday.
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These look interesting. I wonder if they come out soon.
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Anyone else noticed the Vans Salman Agah vibes here? Good to see euro riders building their thing.
AB-solutely. It's way more that first Agah shoe minus the toecap than it is a cons one-star.
Edit: I'm with Silhouette on the clean shoe argument. Also, while I can understand how someone might think of skating as aspirational--I'd say Stevie Williams could be a good example of that--it's definitely not that for many of us.
Glad I'm not the only one. This is exactly what I described them as. I'm game but don't want to order online, would rather try on.
skating agah's now, like them altough abit low and flat
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These look interesting. I wonder if they come out soon.
(http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/D76_2471-1024x686.jpg)
I know the canvas mid are dropping in April for the third drop, so maybe those suede will drop sooner.
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more shit made in China... but it's sk8r owned!
make a team, pay them an awesome wage. maybe give them health insurance.
Otherwise, this, like every other brand is no different than Lakai Korea.
What's so fucking wrong with 'Lakai Korea"?
I'm skating two pairs at the moment. Amazing shoes.
You've been brain washed by the corpos to think skate shoes are bad. You just buy those sneakers nike makes.
absolutely nothing.
im saying ppl that care about 'sk8er owned' are dumbasses
BILLIONAIRES RULE!! BILLIONAIRES RULE!! FUCK TRYING TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO NEED IT! BILLIONAIRES ALL DAY BABY! G6! TRUMP PAID $750 TAX IN 2015!! BILLIONAIRES! SUPPORT THEM!! VERSACE SHIT!! YOU AIN'T GOT FREE HEALTHCARE OR COLLEGE BUT PEOPLE HAVE PRIVATE JETS AND PRIVATE POWER PLANTS! SUCKED IN LAKAI, YOU SUCK! NIKE NIKE NIKE. GT ISHOD SHANE COREY KENNEDY SHIMIZU TODD JORDAN DANY SUPA!! EVERYONE CAN BE BILLIONAIRES!! DUMBASSES IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT EXTREME WEALTH DISPARITY AND OLIGOPOLIES!!! PHIL KNIGHT ALL DAY BABY!! BILLIONAIRE LONG DISTANCE RUNNER CAN HAVE MY MONEY OVER MIKE CARROL/RICK HOWARD/ PONTUS ANY DAY OFF THE WEEK.
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I don´t know why but these look like old US-made Vans to me, which is a good thing. I also really like the no branding approach. Would try but I don´t skate any vulcs these days.
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more shit made in China... but it's sk8r owned!
make a team, pay them an awesome wage. maybe give them health insurance.
Otherwise, this, like every other brand is no different than Lakai Korea.
What's so fucking wrong with 'Lakai Korea"?
I'm skating two pairs at the moment. Amazing shoes.
You've been brain washed by the corpos to think skate shoes are bad. You just buy those sneakers nike makes.
absolutely nothing.
im saying ppl that care about 'sk8er owned' are dumbasses
BILLIONAIRES RULE!! BILLIONAIRES RULE!! FUCK TRYING TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO NEED IT! BILLIONAIRES ALL DAY BABY! G6! TRUMP PAID $750 TAX IN 2015!! BILLIONAIRES! SUPPORT THEM!! VERSACE SHIT!! YOU AIN'T GOT FREE HEALTHCARE OR COLLEGE BUT PEOPLE HAVE PRIVATE JETS AND PRIVATE POWER PLANTS! SUCKED IN LAKAI, YOU SUCK! NIKE NIKE NIKE. GT ISHOD SHANE COREY KENNEDY SHIMIZU TODD JORDAN DANY SUPA!! EVERYONE CAN BE BILLIONAIRES!! DUMBASSES IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT EXTREME WEALTH DISPARITY AND OLIGOPOLIES!!! PHIL KNIGHT ALL DAY BABY!! BILLIONAIRE LONG DISTANCE RUNNER CAN HAVE MY MONEY OVER MIKE CARROL/RICK HOWARD/ PONTUS ANY DAY OFF THE WEEK.
thats right dumbass, I dont want to support wage disparities.. How much do ppl on Nike and Adidas get paid compared to people on State footwear, FP insoles or Lakai?
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more shit made in China... but it's sk8r owned!
make a team, pay them an awesome wage. maybe give them health insurance.
Otherwise, this, like every other brand is no different than Lakai Korea.
What's so fucking wrong with 'Lakai Korea"?
I'm skating two pairs at the moment. Amazing shoes.
You've been brain washed by the corpos to think skate shoes are bad. You just buy those sneakers nike makes.
absolutely nothing.
im saying ppl that care about 'sk8er owned' are dumbasses
BILLIONAIRES RULE!! BILLIONAIRES RULE!! FUCK TRYING TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO NEED IT! BILLIONAIRES ALL DAY BABY! G6! TRUMP PAID $750 TAX IN 2015!! BILLIONAIRES! SUPPORT THEM!! VERSACE SHIT!! YOU AIN'T GOT FREE HEALTHCARE OR COLLEGE BUT PEOPLE HAVE PRIVATE JETS AND PRIVATE POWER PLANTS! SUCKED IN LAKAI, YOU SUCK! NIKE NIKE NIKE. GT ISHOD SHANE COREY KENNEDY SHIMIZU TODD JORDAN DANY SUPA!! EVERYONE CAN BE BILLIONAIRES!! DUMBASSES IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT EXTREME WEALTH DISPARITY AND OLIGOPOLIES!!! PHIL KNIGHT ALL DAY BABY!! BILLIONAIRE LONG DISTANCE RUNNER CAN HAVE MY MONEY OVER MIKE CARROL/RICK HOWARD/ PONTUS ANY DAY OFF THE WEEK.
https://youtu.be/BqwWUNZlTOA
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more shit made in China... but it's sk8r owned!
make a team, pay them an awesome wage. maybe give them health insurance.
Otherwise, this, like every other brand is no different than Lakai Korea.
What's so fucking wrong with 'Lakai Korea"?
I'm skating two pairs at the moment. Amazing shoes.
You've been brain washed by the corpos to think skate shoes are bad. You just buy those sneakers nike makes.
absolutely nothing.
im saying ppl that care about 'sk8er owned' are dumbasses
BILLIONAIRES RULE!! BILLIONAIRES RULE!! FUCK TRYING TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO NEED IT! BILLIONAIRES ALL DAY BABY! G6! TRUMP PAID $750 TAX IN 2015!! BILLIONAIRES! SUPPORT THEM!! VERSACE SHIT!! YOU AIN'T GOT FREE HEALTHCARE OR COLLEGE BUT PEOPLE HAVE PRIVATE JETS AND PRIVATE POWER PLANTS! SUCKED IN LAKAI, YOU SUCK! NIKE NIKE NIKE. GT ISHOD SHANE COREY KENNEDY SHIMIZU TODD JORDAN DANY SUPA!! EVERYONE CAN BE BILLIONAIRES!! DUMBASSES IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT EXTREME WEALTH DISPARITY AND OLIGOPOLIES!!! PHIL KNIGHT ALL DAY BABY!! BILLIONAIRE LONG DISTANCE RUNNER CAN HAVE MY MONEY OVER MIKE CARROL/RICK HOWARD/ PONTUS ANY DAY OFF THE WEEK.
Totally unrelated question, but is Lakai/Crailtap still owned by Altamont Capital?
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more shit made in China... but it's sk8r owned!
make a team, pay them an awesome wage. maybe give them health insurance.
Otherwise, this, like every other brand is no different than Lakai Korea.
What's so fucking wrong with 'Lakai Korea"?
I'm skating two pairs at the moment. Amazing shoes.
You've been brain washed by the corpos to think skate shoes are bad. You just buy those sneakers nike makes.
absolutely nothing.
im saying ppl that care about 'sk8er owned' are dumbasses
BILLIONAIRES RULE!! BILLIONAIRES RULE!! FUCK TRYING TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO NEED IT! BILLIONAIRES ALL DAY BABY! G6! TRUMP PAID $750 TAX IN 2015!! BILLIONAIRES! SUPPORT THEM!! VERSACE SHIT!! YOU AIN'T GOT FREE HEALTHCARE OR COLLEGE BUT PEOPLE HAVE PRIVATE JETS AND PRIVATE POWER PLANTS! SUCKED IN LAKAI, YOU SUCK! NIKE NIKE NIKE. GT ISHOD SHANE COREY KENNEDY SHIMIZU TODD JORDAN DANY SUPA!! EVERYONE CAN BE BILLIONAIRES!! DUMBASSES IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT EXTREME WEALTH DISPARITY AND OLIGOPOLIES!!! PHIL KNIGHT ALL DAY BABY!! BILLIONAIRE LONG DISTANCE RUNNER CAN HAVE MY MONEY OVER MIKE CARROL/RICK HOWARD/ PONTUS ANY DAY OFF THE WEEK.
It would appear not unless it's corp has a name I dont recognize: https://www.altamontcapital.com/portfolio/all/
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Upon a few shipping issues, I finally had the chance to try them and it feels like walking on clouds.
Not sure if I'll skate them being a low-top but the quality is insane.
Good fucking work Pontus.
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These look interesting. I wonder if they come out soon.
(http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/D76_2471-1024x686.jpg)
I actually emailed them about these the other day. They said December.
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great shoes ! i like how simple it is. i ended up getting the mustards, but all the colorways are well executed. if it was a non-skate brand these would be 50-100 more and have a much more limited reach. hope it stays in business long enough so they can have a whole line of these.
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great shoes ! i like how simple it is. i ended up getting the mustards, but all the colorways are well executed. if it was a non-skate brand these would be 50-100 more and have a much more limited reach. hope it stays in business long enough so they can have a whole line of these.
You’ve got to be kidding me
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great shoes ! i like how simple it is. i ended up getting the mustards, but all the colorways are well executed. if it was a non-skate brand these would be 50-100 more and have a much more limited reach. hope it stays in business long enough so they can have a whole line of these.
You’ve got to be kidding me
I was skeptical too, but the quality is really good.
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Canvas mid as seen on their Insta story :
(https://i.ibb.co/fkPKdrv/Last-Resort.png)
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Suede halfcabs without the vans logo on a platform. Not good
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Suede halfcabs without the vans logo on a platform. Not good
nah b halfcabs have like six eyelets these have 4,294
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Its concerning
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Suede halfcabs without the vans logo on a platform. Not good
how the fuck do these look like half cabs to you?
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still want the lows
not liking the white painted eyelets on those that much
those look NOTHING like half cabs not even close
(https://i.ibb.co/dmKQnF1/image.png) (https://ibb.co/dmKQnF1)
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I disagree with HombreezysShittyOpinion, these look nothing like halfcabs. They look nice.
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That pasta dude is a moron, these look nothing like halfcabs
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Suede halfcabs without the vans logo on a platform. Not good
I want to know, have you ever seen Doren's?
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Canvas mid as seen on their Insta story :
(https://i.ibb.co/fkPKdrv/Last-Resort.png)
Dear god - is this a joke?! That's actually a shoe they're releasing... like that? Looks like someone's first attempt at making a home made shoe. Hahahaha.
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Canvas mid as seen on their Insta story :
(https://i.ibb.co/fkPKdrv/Last-Resort.png)
Dear god - is this a joke?! That's actually a shoe they're releasing... like that? Looks like someone's first attempt at making a home made shoe. Hahahaha.
hard disagree. They look like boutique shit, the type of shoes i see worn by upper middle class white people with white linen pants and perfect teeth who smile too much
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Canvas mid as seen on their Insta story :
(https://i.ibb.co/fkPKdrv/Last-Resort.png)
Dear god - is this a joke?! That's actually a shoe they're releasing... like that? Looks like someone's first attempt at making a home made shoe. Hahahaha.
(https://i.imgur.com/0zFLvvy.jpg)
Nasty.
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This kinda seems like a posh huf
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Canvas mid as seen on their Insta story :
(https://i.ibb.co/fkPKdrv/Last-Resort.png)
Dear god - is this a joke?! That's actually a shoe they're releasing... like that? Looks like someone's first attempt at making a home made shoe. Hahahaha.
(https://i.imgur.com/0zFLvvy.jpg)
Nasty.
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Canvas mid as seen on their Insta story :
(https://i.ibb.co/fkPKdrv/Last-Resort.png)
Man, terrible design. Those 2-3 first eyelets cover too much of the shoe, and the laces will get fucked easily by skating.
Needs more toebox room and less eyelets.
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Canvas mid as seen on their Insta story :
(https://i.ibb.co/fkPKdrv/Last-Resort.png)
Man, terrible design. Those 2-3 first eyelets cover too much of the shoe, and the laces will get fucked easily by skating.
Needs more toebox room and less eyelets.
You don't get out much do you.
Eyelets, right?
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These straight up just look like some of the nicer more minimal 90's shoes like Sheep or Duffs, except like, a lot nicer. Dunno why everyone's tripping.
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These straight up just look like some of the nicer more minimal 90's shoes like Sheep or Duffs, except like, a lot nicer. Dunno why everyone's tripping.
Agreed. I’ve seen the lows and these highs in person and they all look great.
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that toebox just looks silly. sucks, was really interested in the shoe. really looks like they made the toebox even shorter.
to me this looks like a very botched version of the last ed emericas.
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definitely trying to get my hands on a pair of the suede high tops when they come out
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These straight up just look like some of the nicer more minimal 90's shoes like Sheep or Duffs, except like, a lot nicer. Dunno why everyone's tripping.
I've seen the low ones in person twice and they definitely did not look nicer than those 90's shoes to me. Looked a bit bagged out and kinda like kids shoes somehow. I think it's the short toe box and thick taping. They honestly just look like a generic cheap vulc shoe in person. That's what I see.
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Canvas mid as seen on their Insta story :
(https://i.ibb.co/fkPKdrv/Last-Resort.png)
Man, terrible design. Those 2-3 first eyelets cover too much of the shoe, and the laces will get fucked easily by skating.
Needs more toebox room and less eyelets.
You don't get out much do you.
Eyelets, right?
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Lurk more
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(https://i.imgur.com/QSQvuev.jpg)
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Canvas mid as seen on their Insta story :
(https://i.ibb.co/fkPKdrv/Last-Resort.png)
Man, terrible design. Those 2-3 first eyelets cover too much of the shoe, and the laces will get fucked easily by skating.
Needs more toebox room and less eyelets.
You don't get out much do you.
Eyelets, right?
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Lurk more
Lurk more? Cool, but right, more toebox room and less eyelets? Yeah?
What were they thinking!? Terrible design...
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I meant these sry sheesh
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/TKN6BT-HERO?$583x583$)
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What are all these platform shoes on this page?
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I meant these sry sheesh
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/TKN6BT-HERO?$583x583$)
we know, sheesh. But thanks for doubling down on your shitty opinion
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Slappies and no complies. Bonelesses. Wear these shoes while doing them. Also chinos that are too short, maybe a cardigan and a beanie. Listen to John Cale and Loe Reed. You got the idea.
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I think Baby Spice wore these in Spice World.
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Inspired by:
(https://www.ualberta.ca/science/media-library/news/2020/may/ice-skating-math.jpg)