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Title: What about deck length?
Post by: roanrox on February 25, 2020, 06:15:36 PM
Searched all over the forum and couldn’t find any light on this:
What’s the real thing about deck length?
I mean let’s say you have the same dimensions deck (e.g. 8.5 wide / 14.5 wheelbase) by 32” length.
If you move up to 8.5wide / 14.5wb / 32.5 length how will it affect your ride?

TL;DR: does deck length matter? How?
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Fred Gerwer Frank Gall on February 25, 2020, 06:26:14 PM
Is the length added to the tail or nose? It can only be added to three places. WB, nose or tail. Pretty easy to predict how that will influence your ride.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: FrozenIndustries on February 25, 2020, 06:27:53 PM
Longer nose/tail with more flat will give you more control, but a shorter nose/tail with less flat will give you more leverage. It's likely the 32.5" is going to have more flat (at least on one end), which you might prefer for some tricks.

Personally, I like how a longer board looks because I'm tall and it feels like I have a little more room. But that's totally just me.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: UPPERCASEnocap on February 25, 2020, 06:29:51 PM
Fingers of flat could be a factor worth considering as well. Or pitch of nose/tail.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: UPPERCASEnocap on February 25, 2020, 06:30:41 PM
Longer nose/tail with more flat will give you more control, but a shorter nose/tail with less flat will give you more leverage. It's likely the 32.5" is going to have more flat (at least on one end), which you might prefer for some tricks.

Personally, I like how a longer board looks because I'm tall and it feels like I have a little more room. But that's totally just me.

Beat me to it. All good info!
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: roanrox on February 25, 2020, 07:11:04 PM
Is the length added to the tail or nose? It can only be added to three places. WB, nose or tail. Pretty easy to predict how that will influence your ride.

Wow never thought about that. Damn how can I know when buying a new deck online?
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: munchbox on February 25, 2020, 07:22:46 PM
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Is the length added to the tail or nose? It can only be added to three places. WB, nose or tail. Pretty easy to predict how that will influence your ride.
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Wow never thought about that. Damn how can I know when buying a new deck online?
tactics and socal skateshop have pretty accurate online measurements
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Xen on February 25, 2020, 07:24:32 PM
Min: 31.65"
Prefecto: 31.75"
Max: 31.85"

Seriously...I've come to really dislike 32"+ boards for regular use (bowls/cruising ok).

6.5" Tail
14" - 14.25" WB
Rest in the nose (preferably just under 7")

Essentially Primitive decks :P
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: backinaction on February 25, 2020, 07:27:05 PM
Or is it added at all?

manufacturers can measure deck length differently.  Some measure direct across tips - like with a yardstick.  Some measure with a soft tape on the grip side of the board. Some measure with a soft tape on the graphic side of the board.  Same deck could measure 3/4” different
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: satan on February 25, 2020, 07:42:05 PM
I don't pay super close attention to length cuz I don't know how they're measuring it and I'm not gonna memorize each woodshop's method.
I have a range that I look for but it's just close to 32", 31.75-32.25"?
33" I immediately check for a 15" wb..
I try to find nose, tail, and wb lengths cuz short tails bug me.
So I look for ~7" nose, 6-5/8" or longer tail, 14-14.25" wb
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: roanrox on February 25, 2020, 07:57:12 PM
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Is the length added to the tail or nose? It can only be added to three places. WB, nose or tail. Pretty easy to predict how that will influence your ride.
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Wow never thought about that. Damn how can I know when buying a new deck online?
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tactics and socal skateshop have pretty accurate online measurements

Got it. TY
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: backinaction on February 25, 2020, 08:10:57 PM
Pretty old post, but good explanation of why the measuring technique matters

http://skateboardingismylifetimesport.blogspot.com/2013/05/deck-length-measuring-by-company.html?m=1
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Fred Gerwer Frank Gall on February 25, 2020, 08:20:01 PM
I only pay attention to wheelbase and tail length. Overall length and nose length... whatevs, I can make work if WB and tail are in my workable limits. Those two measurements are also more important than width for me. As long the width is within 1/4" of my trucks, I'm usually good.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: rocklobster on February 25, 2020, 08:43:04 PM
Min: 31.65"
Prefecto: 31.75"
Max: 31.85"

Seriously...I've come to really dislike 32"+ boards for regular use (bowls/cruising ok).

6.5" Tail
14" - 14.25" WB
Rest in the nose (preferably just under 7")

Essentially Primitive decks :P

How much is Primitive paying you to promote their stuff on Slap? I do like their dimensions though, look like they will pair well with my growing collection of Venture trucks.

For me 32" is good, gives me lots of room to pop and drag my foot up for a nice floaty kickflips. But the added length can be tough to manage more precise tricks where I want a tighter turn like Tailslides and Smith grinds. Anything longer than 32" is unmanagable for me.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Xen on February 25, 2020, 11:01:14 PM
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Min: 31.65"
Prefecto: 31.75"
Max: 31.85"

Seriously...I've come to really dislike 32"+ boards for regular use (bowls/cruising ok).

6.5" Tail
14" - 14.25" WB
Rest in the nose (preferably just under 7")

Essentially Primitive decks :P
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How much is Primitive paying you to promote their stuff on Slap? I do like their dimensions though, look like they will pair well with my growing collection of Venture trucks.

For me 32" is good, gives me lots of room to pop and drag my foot up for a nice floaty kickflips. But the added length can be tough to manage more precise tricks where I want a tighter turn like Tailslides and Smith grinds. Anything longer than 32" is unmanagable for me.

I wish they were paying me (in boards)....they pair super well with Ventures and the dimensions (not those in their diagrams) are really great all around and the shapes are somewhere between square and round tips.

I wish the decks were a bit crispier (like a Dwindle Resin 7) but you get what  you get.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: rocklobster on February 25, 2020, 11:20:47 PM
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Min: 31.65"
Prefecto: 31.75"
Max: 31.85"

Seriously...I've come to really dislike 32"+ boards for regular use (bowls/cruising ok).

6.5" Tail
14" - 14.25" WB
Rest in the nose (preferably just under 7")

Essentially Primitive decks :P
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How much is Primitive paying you to promote their stuff on Slap? I do like their dimensions though, look like they will pair well with my growing collection of Venture trucks.

For me 32" is good, gives me lots of room to pop and drag my foot up for a nice floaty kickflips. But the added length can be tough to manage more precise tricks where I want a tighter turn like Tailslides and Smith grinds. Anything longer than 32" is unmanagable for me.
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I wish they were paying me (in boards)....they pair super well with Ventures and the dimensions (not those in their diagrams) are really great all around and the shapes are somewhere between square and round tips.

I wish the decks were a bit crispier (like a Dwindle Resin 7) but you get what  you get.

It's a shame they don't make their boards a touch longer, 31.6" is a hair too short. I'm deciding between a Tactics (BBS), Darkstar and Sausage (Clutch) deck to ship back to Asia, your last statement made my choice a lot tougher.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: silhouette on February 26, 2020, 12:29:47 AM
Being 5'6 in height I have short legs, so decks with a shorter wheelbase feel way more maneuverable to me - something about the leverage. Flip tricks and ledge tricks just feel a lot better and take less effort, whereas on a board with a longer wheelbase I'll have to try a bit harder and be more precise. Ever since I became aware of that I've been trying to get decks with a shorter wheelbase, but occasionally I'll get it wrong and be stuck on a longer one or two and that's usually when my skating style will change drastically, from flip tricks and tech to going faster on more basic tricks (seeing as the tech shit will be more frustrating, I kind of put it on hold and stop bothering with it for a bit). Anything in the 31 range will feel like a toy I can control, anything above 32 will feel like a tank that drives me somewhere. I actually like the feeling of both but depending on how tall one is and how they want to skate, one choice or the other will probably feel more versatile.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Sila on February 26, 2020, 01:23:14 AM
My kickflips were awful until I got a 32.5". Everything I had skated before was a 31.75". Still feels slightly long but both my kickflips and heelflips are so much better now.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: rocklobster on February 26, 2020, 01:24:03 AM
Being 5'6 in height I have short legs, so decks with a shorter wheelbase feel way more maneuverable to me - something about the leverage. Flip tricks and ledge tricks just feel a lot better and take less effort, whereas on a board with a longer wheelbase I'll have to try a bit harder and be more precise. Ever since I became aware of that I've been trying to get decks with a shorter wheelbase, but occasionally I'll get it wrong and be stuck on a longer one or two and that's usually when my skating style will change drastically, from flip tricks and tech to going faster on more basic tricks (seeing as the tech shit will be more frustrating, I kind of put it on hold and stop bothering with it for a bit). Anything in the 31 range will feel like a toy I can control, anything above 32 will feel like a tank that drives me somewhere. I actually like the feeling of both but depending on how tall one is and how they want to skate, one choice or the other will probably feel more versatile.

I'm roughly the same height,  what qualifies as a short or long WB for you? I've had a great setups between 17.26 - 17.52, brought a slightly used deck out of retirement to try a 17.5, 14 with Venture 5.2 hollow lights
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Nth syd bear on February 26, 2020, 01:29:29 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/Pw1FqbM/20200226-185517.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WgBGmd0)

Looks good to me..
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: silhouette on February 26, 2020, 01:43:07 AM
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Being 5'6 in height I have short legs, so decks with a shorter wheelbase feel way more maneuverable to me - something about the leverage. Flip tricks and ledge tricks just feel a lot better and take less effort, whereas on a board with a longer wheelbase I'll have to try a bit harder and be more precise. Ever since I became aware of that I've been trying to get decks with a shorter wheelbase, but occasionally I'll get it wrong and be stuck on a longer one or two and that's usually when my skating style will change drastically, from flip tricks and tech to going faster on more basic tricks (seeing as the tech shit will be more frustrating, I kind of put it on hold and stop bothering with it for a bit). Anything in the 31 range will feel like a toy I can control, anything above 32 will feel like a tank that drives me somewhere. I actually like the feeling of both but depending on how tall one is and how they want to skate, one choice or the other will probably feel more versatile.
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I'm roughly the same height,  what qualifies as a short or long WB for you? I've had a great setups between 17.26 - 17.52, brought a slightly used deck out of retirement to try a 17.5, 14 with Venture 5.2 hollow lights

Honestly I don't nerd out on gear specs nearly enough to be able to provide you with an accurate answer. The 32 in length, and around a specific spot (17, 18?) in wheelbase seems to be the breaking point between the two 'styles' for me, I've found a particular shape Magenta / Generator makes that works really well for me, they used to have the exact specs up a few seasons ago but now they gone and I can't remember them. I used to go back and worth between 8.25 and 8.125 as well, both sizes used to feel perfect as long as the wheelbase was correct but now I'm definitely a 8.25 guy for stability.

I also skate trucks shorter than my deck width (139mm on 8.25's, but then again I also rocked 129mm's on a Polar P1 once), I like the reaction that gives on flip tricks, not sure if that makes a difference on this topic though. And I like semi flat concave. Boards with steep concave feel like some alien object sent out there to destroy human feet, to me. Shoe size is 9.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: moonordie on February 26, 2020, 02:41:55 AM
Min: 31.65"
Prefecto: 31.75"
Max: 31.85"

Seriously...I've come to really dislike 32"+ boards for regular use (bowls/cruising ok).

6.5" Tail
14" - 14.25" WB
Rest in the nose (preferably just under 7")

Essentially Primitive decks :P
I'm guessing by "prefecto" you meant "perfecto" and you're totally about the fact that nothing beats a Primitive board.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: cosmicgypsies on February 26, 2020, 02:49:59 AM
I don't personally feel length is that important within reason, longest I had was a 8.5 33 14.5 Hockey, great board was doing the best 360 flips of my life on that fuckin thing. Current is an 8.5 32.25 14.375 Heroin, long as it's an 8.5 with around an 14.5 wheelbase it's solid to me.

Oddly I really enjoyed skating an 8.5 32.25 15 Death board even if it did feel like skating a door.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: jay_nev on February 26, 2020, 04:06:40 AM
My kickflips were awful until I got a 32.5". Everything I had skated before was a 31.75". Still feels slightly long but both my kickflips and heelflips are so much better now.

exciting. Got a 32.5” to set up next
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: rocklobster on February 26, 2020, 05:11:38 AM
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My kickflips were awful until I got a 32.5". Everything I had skated before was a 31.75". Still feels slightly long but both my kickflips and heelflips are so much better now.

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exciting. Got a 32.5” to set up next

Damn I couldnt handle such length (giggity)

Thinking of sizing down slightly from a 32", I'm finding with a longer board I tend to over drag and get too high above the ledge. Thanks to the cheetahsheets tutorial I'm trying 360 flips seriously for the first time, thinking a smaller deck might be easier to shove.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: jay_nev on February 26, 2020, 05:20:05 AM
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My kickflips were awful until I got a 32.5". Everything I had skated before was a 31.75". Still feels slightly long but both my kickflips and heelflips are so much better now.

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exciting. Got a 32.5” to set up next
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Damn I couldnt handle such length (giggity)

Thinking of sizing down slightly from a 32", I'm finding with a longer board I tend to over drag and get too high above the ledge. Thanks to the cheetahsheets tutohrial I'm trying 360 flips seriously for the first time, thinking a smaller deck might be easier to shove.
lol where was this
I’m also 6’4” so longer deck is probably different for you than me
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: silhouette on February 26, 2020, 05:58:58 AM
Thanks to the cheetahsheets tutorial I'm trying 360 flips seriously for the first time, thinking a smaller deck might be easier to shove.

360 flips are probably the main trick that gets taken away from me on 32''+ boards (I can still do them but I have to work against the board more rather than with it if that makes sense). Definitely has more to do with the variation in wheelbase though.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Sativa Lung on February 26, 2020, 06:10:40 AM
Moving to shorter decks really made things more comfortable for me. I try to avoid anything over 31.8 if I can now. 31.5 with a 14.25wb seems to be my goldilocks zone. Its one of those things I ignored for a long time but once I started experimenting with it I was pretty surprised at how much of a difference it made.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Vintagebody on February 26, 2020, 07:43:34 AM
The trend by pro's is getting more compact setups. If you ask Paul Schmitt, he says so in "The Nine Club" pod. We've already seen the trend in snowboarding by not having such a wide stance.

I personally dislike anything over 32", and im 6,4ft myself.
Longer board give you a wider stance when doing a trick, or longer flick. Why would you want that?

8.5x31.5, or even 31 must be so fun!
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: moonordie on February 26, 2020, 08:04:42 AM
In my case my happy place is in 32.25 apparently
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: jay_nev on February 26, 2020, 08:24:13 AM
The trend by pro's is getting more compact setups. If you ask Paul Schmitt, he says so in "The Nine Club" pod. We've already seen the trend in snowboarding by not having such a wide stance.

I personally dislike anything over 32", and im 6,4ft myself.
Longer board give you a wider stance when doing a trick, or longer flick. Why would you want that?

8.5x31.5, or even 31 must be so fun!
My theory: more stability during set up/crouch being a touch wider.
On a short board/wb my legs feel like they have no where to go. can never fully extend when flicking i guess?
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: rocklobster on February 26, 2020, 09:47:55 AM
The trend by pro's is getting more compact setups. If you ask Paul Schmitt, he says so in "The Nine Club" pod. We've already seen the trend in snowboarding by not having such a wide stance.

I personally dislike anything over 32", and im 6,4ft myself.
Longer board give you a wider stance when doing a trick, or longer flick. Why would you want that?

8.5x31.5, or even 31 must be so fun!

My theory that the rise in WB shortening trucks (Film, Theeve, Ace) stems from people riding wider, longer boards which give longer WB, hence the need for trucks that tuck them in.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: GAY on February 26, 2020, 11:33:15 AM
This is another one of those thread titles that made me do a double take.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Esmith5488 on February 26, 2020, 01:12:24 PM
This is another one of those thread titles that made me do a double take.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Sativa Lung on February 26, 2020, 04:41:50 PM
In my case my happy place is in 32.25 apparently

Just want to point out that different companies measure length differently. Some use a straight tip to tip measurement and some include the curve/concave of the deck, so it's a good idea to be aware of how a retailer or company measures their decks.

For example, I have a Quasi AD 8.375 that you'll find listed as "32.25" most places as thats what quasi had on the site but if you measure it tip to tip it's actually 31.75", whereas I have an Antihero Austin Kanfoush deck that's 31.62" tip to tip which is exactly whats printed on the sticker. Any good skate shop will have a tape measure and will be more than happy to let you measure the decks if you want, or if you're shopping online you can always email the company or shop and ask them how they're measuring.

Also don't always trust whats on the label as theres sometimes significant variation in a decks size from manufacturing processes not being totally precise (where its at in the press stack and how its trimmed etc). I just got a WKND that's marked as 8.25" width but its actually closer to 8.38. This is the reason why Rodney Mullen was so adamant about using single deck pressing and cnc when he was setting up dwindle's chinese factory... it should theoretically give you an identical deck every time.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: moonordie on February 26, 2020, 04:54:16 PM
Excellent about pointing that Buttfart. You da man.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: rocklobster on February 26, 2020, 05:13:19 PM
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In my case my happy place is in 32.25 apparently
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Also don't always trust whats on the label as theres sometimes significant variation in a decks size from manufacturing processes not being totally precise (where its at in the press stack and how its trimmed etc). I just got a WKND that's marked as 8.25" width but its actually closer to 8.38. This is the reason why Rodney Mullen was so adamant about using single deck pressing and cnc when he was setting up dwindle's chinese factory... it should theoretically give you an identical deck every time.


It's nitpicking but finding out my deck was off by 0.13" would piss me off royally. I can understand having different measurements methods for length, but width? Come on board companies!
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: satan on February 26, 2020, 07:11:14 PM
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In my case my happy place is in 32.25 apparently
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Also don't always trust whats on the label as theres sometimes significant variation in a decks size from manufacturing processes not being totally precise (where its at in the press stack and how its trimmed etc). I just got a WKND that's marked as 8.25" width but its actually closer to 8.38. This is the reason why Rodney Mullen was so adamant about using single deck pressing and cnc when he was setting up dwindle's chinese factory... it should theoretically give you an identical deck every time.

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It's nitpicking but finding out my deck was off by 0.13" would piss me off royally. I can understand having different measurements methods for length, but width? Come on board companies!
I've only seen this on a flat, flat, flat BBS deck. It's was close to 1/8" wider?
If you watch Stevie's vid the BBS guy mentions something about cutting some decks wider. I think it's to sneak in a lil concave and stiffen up the flatter decks in the stack.

All the big woodshops use CNC now. Even when they copied a master pattern they just "looked" at length and width as the master was flat.
Decks are cut in a stack so some can shift and get cut wonky. I've got an old PS Stix like this, both sides of the nose and tail are different shapes.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Sativa Lung on February 27, 2020, 04:22:22 AM

All the big woodshops use CNC now. Even when they copied a master pattern they just "looked" at length and width as the master was flat.
Decks are cut in a stack so some can shift and get cut wonky. I've got an old PS Stix like this, both sides of the nose and tail are different shapes.

https://i.imgur.com/O353fiO.jpg

This deck is quite flat, especially for a WKND deck, so I'd guess it was at the very bottom of the stack and would be 8.25 with a deep concave if it had been at the top. I have another one that seems to be from the same mold that's a little deeper and just a fraction over 8.25", so that one was probably mid stack.

It doesn't actually bother me that much. Deck skates great and I I actually kinda like the fact that there's minute differences. Its kind of like a tiny tweak to the shape. Now if it were wheelbase variation THAT would piss me off.

Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: RichardAsh on September 27, 2021, 03:43:44 AM
Anything that measures between 28″ to 46″ is good. The shorter ones help you make sharp turns and angles. Those boards at the long (https://www.concretewavemagazine.com/what-size-longboard-skateboard-should-i-get/) end are ideal for stability.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: JugeL on September 27, 2021, 03:55:16 AM
I used to think that i like longer boards but skated this one Antihero which was under 31.5" and did maybe the best skating i have done in my life with it.

So now i have one more thing to go full madness mode.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Esmith5488 on September 27, 2021, 09:18:10 AM
I used to think that i like longer boards but skated this one Antihero which was under 31.5" and did maybe the best skating i have done in my life with it.

So now i have one more thing to go full madness mode.
I ran that 8.1 x 31.4 anti hero shape a while. I still have one but I’ve started to skate a longer shape since I have ventures. Loved it on thunders though
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: hiljentaa on September 27, 2021, 02:05:17 PM
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I used to think that i like longer boards but skated this one Antihero which was under 31.5" and did maybe the best skating i have done in my life with it.

So now i have one more thing to go full madness mode.
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I ran that 8.1 x 31.4 anti hero shape a while. I still have one but I’ve started to skate a longer shape since I have ventures. Loved it on thunders though

Been very curious about that shape paired with Ventures..

Tail too short?

Hard to find 8.12 with a 14" wb.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Woodshop on September 27, 2021, 02:08:20 PM
Pretty old post, but good explanation of why the measuring technique matters

http://skateboardingismylifetimesport.blogspot.com/2013/05/deck-length-measuring-by-company.html?m=1


Old post, but relevant information from that blog post above and an interesting read, if you have the time.


This was from not too long ago, with what was the standard 8.5 x 32 (Baker) - 8.5 x 32.7 (others) = same boards.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CSV3emllWYC/


Board dimensions are a funny thing.

Here are four different brands, all from the same woodshop, all of which those companies list different lengths for their 8.5 wide standard shaped decks, but all are actually the exact same size and dimensions overall. Note the wheelbase is listed the same too, at 14.5 for all.

I have also included an older Baker deck beside the newer one, just for reference, but they are said to be 8.5 x 32, then the Black Label is said to be 8.5 x 32.38, the Element is 8.5 x 32.7 and the Generator (shop brand) deck is listed as 8.5 x 32.5 from their site.

All are actually 8.5 x 32.7 if the tape measure is held against the concave right through, or closer to 32.25 if kept tight from end to end, with a nose at about 7.2 and tail at about 6.7 but that is just rough measurements really.

The dimensions shown on the Element deck are the most accurate, but I know some companies / places prefer to measure straight across, not with the concave, which will always give a different length.

Other decks from different companies, regardless of woodshop, often have inconsistencies, which is why I find it so interesting to have a number of the same boards from various places to measure and compare, all of these being the same, as I have multiples of each.

There are ever so slight differences in concave too, but for the most part, they all are approximately the same, some slightly steeper and some slightly more mellow than others, depending on where they were in the press, being four at a time in this particular woodshop, the top being the steepest down to the fourth deck having the least concave. It can be fairly significant, as per an older post I put up.

The last pic is just an added one with a few other brands which also use the same woodshop, but I didn't have the exact same size boards from those brands to add, even though the Birdhouse and Antihero both are 14.5 wheelbase, they are listed as 8.38 wide and 32.25 long, which come in just under the length of the other ones.

To list all the brands from the top tier woodshop like this one would take a little too long here, but these are just a few of them anyway.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Xen on September 27, 2021, 02:38:40 PM
That's why I prefer Dwindle or NHS (even Girl), not only for crisp "china wood" but because I can count on board dimensions being accurate from run to run.

Additionally, I notice more inaccuracies with BBS as the boards get bigger. Hell, Baker still advertises the 8.25 as 31.875" when it's actually 32, been that way for years...maybe they have lots of those dimension stickers to use up...
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Xen on September 27, 2021, 03:06:57 PM
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I used to think that i like longer boards but skated this one Antihero which was under 31.5" and did maybe the best skating i have done in my life with it.

So now i have one more thing to go full madness mode.
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I ran that 8.1 x 31.4 anti hero shape a while. I still have one but I’ve started to skate a longer shape since I have ventures. Loved it on thunders though
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Been very curious about that shape paired with Ventures..

Tail too short?

Hard to find 8.12 with a 14" wb.

April/Primitive (tho it's 8.125")
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: FUBAR on September 27, 2021, 06:13:22 PM
That's why I prefer Dwindle or NHS (even Girl), not only for crisp "china wood" but because I can count on board dimensions being accurate from run to run.

Additionally, I notice more inaccuracies with BBS as the boards get bigger. Hell, Baker still advertises the 8.25 as 31.875" when it's actually 32, been that way for years...maybe they have lots of those dimension stickers to use up...
WAIT…so the 8.25 Baker is 32” long? Possible next deck!
I skated 8.25 x 32.25 for quite some time and love it still. I always told myself I needed more room for ollies down things, at speed, or on banks and stuff. I got a good deal on an 8.25 x 31.75 so I tried it. After a few sessions I had no issues with ollies. I’m on my 3rd 31.75 now. I will say though, kickflips feel a little more harder. Going to go to something longer next deck. For fun.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Joe Davola on September 27, 2021, 07:15:31 PM
I was a happy young man when 8.5x32.5 was a common sight.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Woodshop on September 28, 2021, 02:14:46 AM
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That's why I prefer Dwindle or NHS (even Girl), not only for crisp "china wood" but because I can count on board dimensions being accurate from run to run.

Additionally, I notice more inaccuracies with BBS as the boards get bigger. Hell, Baker still advertises the 8.25 as 31.875" when it's actually 32, been that way for years...maybe they have lots of those dimension stickers to use up...
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WAIT…so the 8.25 Baker is 32” long? Possible next deck!
I skated 8.25 x 32.25 for quite some time and love it still. I always told myself I needed more room for ollies down things, at speed, or on banks and stuff. I got a good deal on an 8.25 x 31.75 so I tried it. After a few sessions I had no issues with ollies. I’m on my 3rd 31.75 now. I will say though, kickflips feel a little more harder. Going to go to something longer next deck. For fun.


Check a few different BBS brands of 8.25 as most of them are closer to 32, if not a touch longer, depending on how they are measured, but also compared to some that are way shorter, actually 31.5 (as they do make the short ones as well - Deathwish, Primitive, etc) so some can go either way.



I was a happy young man when 8.5x32.5 was a common sight.


It is a funny one, as someone I know was so keen on brands like Baker, but they were complaining the boards were too short (mainly the 8.475 x 31.85 size they just had) and they didn't want an Element which was shown as 32.7 but when I showed them most of those decks including Baker 8.5 were all the same size and length, they were blown away.

The best thing others have said is the 14.5 wb and the 6.75 tail on those boards, but that is just personal preference.

Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: ok boomer on September 28, 2021, 06:40:14 AM
31.25-31.75 for me.
31.5 - 31.75 is ideal though
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on September 28, 2021, 08:48:16 AM
After thinking I was in love with the April 8.25's and switching it up to FA/Hocky's...Huge difference I know.
 
I found myself trying out some other decks. Most recently the Mason 8.28. I hated it. It was funny to hear Ben Degros say its the perfect set up for (Wishing a speedy recovery!). I'm nowhere near his height for that short deck and tail. Sounded good on paper.

 So I started looking for decks in what I thought would be my ideal specks. The closest I found was Black Label.
8.25W, 32.12L, 7.0 Nose, 6.75 Tail. The website had the wheelbase wrong at 14.12. It turned out to be 14.25WB.

 I've been allllabout the 14.0WB movement.  But I set it up anyways and I'm so hyped on my skating again. I've got all my tricks back on one deck. It's also flattest deck I can recall ever skating. I snagged a Shake Junt deck on sale with a similar spec not noticing the 31.5 in length. I hope its a little longer.

Can anyone confirm the lengths of the baker/shakjunt  8.25's?

I haven't skated a baker since 2001.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Xen on September 28, 2021, 09:52:35 AM
After thinking I was in love with the April 8.25's and switching it up to FA/Hocky's...Huge difference I know.
 
I found myself trying out some other decks. Most recently the Mason 8.28. I hated it. It was funny to hear Ben Degros say its the perfect set up for (Wishing a speedy recovery!). I'm nowhere near his height for that short deck and tail. Sounded good on paper.

 So I started looking for decks in what I thought would be my ideal specks. The closest I found was Black Label.
8.25W, 32.12L, 7.0 Nose, 6.75 Tail. The website had the wheelbase wrong at 14.12. It turned out to be 14.25WB.

 I've been allllabout the 14.0WB movement.  But I set it up anyways and I'm so hyped on my skating again. I've got all my tricks back on one deck. It's also flattest deck I can recall ever skating. I snagged a Shake Junt deck on sale with a similar spec not noticing the 31.5 in length. I hope its a little longer.

Can anyone confirm the lengths of the baker/shakjunt  8.25's?

I haven't skated a baker since 2001.

Every baker 8.25 I've ever ridden (and it has been many) have always been 32"L (even tho listed as 31.875), both regular and their 'squared' shape.

Stranger/Pfanner/Mason shape is close to sweet, but the length and WB don't do it for me, but I love the nose/tail width/length. I've tried to make it work 4 times, guess I'm just too tall for a short WB AND Length; I can skate 14" Wheelbase Primitives 31.9" with long tails super easy tho. For those that like the Mason dims, go check out the Santa Cruz Knibbs and Henry boards (true) 8.27/8.28 (they have on of each), 14.12/14.22 WBs and 31.83" in length (and you get that crispy dwindle wood).

I just pick up an Uma 8.25x31.9x14.3 WB...I've found that I need a bit longer than 31.5/6" decks and 14.25" WBs...it's tough out there. After much back and forth I know my fav shape is the NHS wide tip, square but not FA square...8.25x32x14.33" medium kicks and mellow cave...sadly it isn't in production because it didn't sell.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on September 28, 2021, 11:36:20 AM


Every baker 8.25 I've ever ridden (and it has been many) have always been 32"L (even tho listed as 31.875), both regular and their 'squared' shape.


Awesome! Thanks! Was worried It would be smaller than the Mason.lol  The only B2's I could find where foil graphics. If this Shake Junt ones good I'll try that next.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Esmith5488 on September 28, 2021, 02:15:55 PM
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I used to think that i like longer boards but skated this one Antihero which was under 31.5" and did maybe the best skating i have done in my life with it.

So now i have one more thing to go full madness mode.
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I ran that 8.1 x 31.4 anti hero shape a while. I still have one but I’ve started to skate a longer shape since I have ventures. Loved it on thunders though
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Been very curious about that shape paired with Ventures..

Tail too short?

Hard to find 8.12 with a 14" wb.
Honestly it was probably not that bad, I just had switched to ventures and had a hard time. I think I could skate it just fine now but I did feel like the tail was a little short. So now the deck is just sitting in my stack
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Xen on September 28, 2021, 02:57:52 PM
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Every baker 8.25 I've ever ridden (and it has been many) have always been 32"L (even tho listed as 31.875), both regular and their 'squared' shape.

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Awesome! Thanks! Was worried It would be smaller than the Mason.lol  The only B2's I could find where foil graphics. If this Shake Junt ones good I'll try that next.

Don't take my word for it tho. On the Baker site the reg 8.25 is listed as 31.875 (but they've always been 32); the foil/squared are listed as 32.25...it's been a while since I rode the squared (both were the first runs) so they could have changed them up, who knows.

If they could get their dims straight, I'd ride that B2 a lot, it's a great shape (it's got that Mason/NHS shape vibe going on, more full than square).
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: FUBAR on September 28, 2021, 05:20:14 PM
I will say I had a Baker B2 that said 8.25 x 32.25 on the sticker and it was true. Mine was a Rowan, I think. Blue bottom. Wasn’t too long ago. I dug it.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: MaXX_I-D on September 28, 2021, 05:48:41 PM
I have had a couple of baker decks and when I got them and measured them(slap had me fucked with madness for a minute) the regular mellow 8.25 is just under 32 and the 8.25 b2 definitely closer to a 32.25. The extra length with the same wheelbase is weird, made me try ventures.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Woodshop on September 29, 2021, 06:03:35 AM
I measured a few boards I had in the shop today, which was interesting.

A Habitat (BBS wood) 8.0" was 31.125" long, if that - just a touch over 31" really, with a 14.0 wheelbase and 6.4" tail and that board looked proportionate and felt fine to stand on, but I was surprised it was that short overall.

Comparing that to my usual setup of 8.38" at 32.25" or 8.5" at 32.5" length, the Habitat deck was definitely too short for me, or even an orange eagle which is 9" wide at 33+" which is definitely too long for some, size is all relative to what you are used to and what you want.

I am not even going to get into the shaped boards or cruisers that I measured, as half of those ones have shorter noses and longer wheelbases, which kind of throws out the overall dimensions that you would be used to for normal boards, but they can easily go from well under 30" all the way up to almost 34" (which seems like a kids mini size up to almost longboard territory, but that deck was just big all round).


Most are between the 31.5 up to 32.5 though with the common size being pretty much right on 32" long.

Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on September 30, 2021, 06:02:52 AM
I have had a couple of baker decks and when I got them and measured them(slap had me fucked with madness for a minute) the regular mellow 8.25 is just under 32 and the 8.25 b2 definitely closer to a 32.25. The extra length with the same wheelbase is weird, made me try ventures.


Measured the Shake Junt last night and like you said its just under 32. I need to get a pic of it compared to the Black Label. The kicks on the SJ begin about a 1/2 before the BL. I'm sure it won't be a problem just an observation. I don't want anymore madness! lol I'm over all the 14WB koolaid... for now  ;) I think as long as my tails are 6.5 its all good for me.

Copped another BL and a Foundation 8.25X32 (for flatness sake). Looking at specks I found that Alien and Habitat fit the bill too tail length wise and over 32. I've always thought they had short tails just wrote them off. Maybe my friend just razor tailed the shit out of his. I would love to skate an Alien.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Woodshop on October 01, 2021, 02:28:27 AM

Copped another BL and a Foundation 8.25X32 (for flatness sake). Looking at specks I found that Alien and Habitat fit the bill too tail length wise and over 32. I've always thought they had short tails just wrote them off. Maybe my friend just razor tailed the shit out of his. I would love to skate an Alien.

Alien Workshop and Habitat seem to be back solidly on BBS and are looking good, from the few I have seen lately, along with all the Workshop boards I have had in recent years.

The pricepoint decks can be other wood though, so as long as it is not a cheaper pricepoint board, you should be fine with them.

Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on October 07, 2021, 07:55:28 AM
I got my Foundation in... I was wrong for thinking it would as flat as Toy Machine. Very wrong! lol

The kicks are pretty damn steep. Comparable to the April I'd skated. 

Tip to tip it measures out a hair over 32.25. Longest 8.25 I've gotten yet. Looks great. Their websites says its 32.
(Corey Glick Bonko 8.25x32)

Idk if I'll skate it anytime soon being as I wanted a pretty flat long deck.
I need my own skate shop or one closer than 80miles away. lol
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Woodshop on October 07, 2021, 05:55:27 PM
I got my Foundation in... I was wrong for thinking it would as flat as Toy Machine. Very wrong! lol

The kicks are pretty damn steep. Comparable to the April I'd skated. 

Tip to tip it measures out a hair over 32.25. Longest 8.25 I've gotten yet. Looks great. Their websites says its 32.
(Corey Glick Bonko 8.25x32)

Idk if I'll skate it anytime soon being as I wanted a pretty flat long deck.
I need my own skate shop or one closer than 80miles away. lol

Guessing it wasn't a PS Stix, now they are from somewhere in China (Excel or Dalian Hauhong) and would have much steeper kicks, that resemble Dwindle concave and kicks.

You can always drive over it or park on the kicks to mellow them out some.

Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: FUBAR on October 19, 2021, 10:49:58 AM
I got my Foundation in... I was wrong for thinking it would as flat as Toy Machine. Very wrong! lol

The kicks are pretty damn steep. Comparable to the April I'd skated. 

Tip to tip it measures out a hair over 32.25. Longest 8.25 I've gotten yet. Looks great. Their websites says its 32.
(Corey Glick Bonko 8.25x32)

Idk if I'll skate it anytime soon being as I wanted a pretty flat long deck.
I need my own skate shop or one closer than 80miles away. lol
Park your car on the kicks for an hour and you will be good to go if you want mellow.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Roisto on October 19, 2021, 11:21:39 AM
I feel like deck length might actually be something I’ve overlooked. Recently I had a deck with a 14.375” wb, which I usually consider too short but I loved it very much. Figured I’d been wrong and went with another deck with a 14.375” wb and I just can’t get along with it. Quite sure now that the main reason is actually the deck length. Usually I ride 14.5” or larger wheelbases and I guess they mostly come in longer decks. I have a 14.25” wb Toy Machine deck stashed that is quite long overall. Might set that up next to test the this further.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Woodshop on October 19, 2021, 05:31:17 PM
I feel like deck length might actually be something I’ve overlooked. Recently I had a deck with a 14.375” wb, which I usually consider too short but I loved it very much. Figured I’d been wrong and went with another deck with a 14.375” wb and I just can’t get along with it. Quite sure now that the main reason is actually the deck length. Usually I ride 14.5” or larger wheelbases and I guess they mostly come in longer decks. I have a 14.25” wb Toy Machine deck stashed that is quite long overall. Might set that up next to test the this further.


Which boards worked / didn't work for you?

The usual BBS 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb I have found so good all round, but also the BBS 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.5 wb being a bigger rounder shape is good too, although not quite as nimble as the 8.38 size.  Note the 8.5 will often have 32 length listed, but they are definitely longer than the 8.38 size from companies like Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, Element, Passport and a heap of others.

Some of the older 8.25 size from various suppliers still had 14.5 wb and longer length too, which also work well when I stand on them, but as everything is going to shorter wheelbases now, it might be harder to find a good 14.5 wb board with a good length.



Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: MysticalTypeExperience on October 19, 2021, 07:28:35 PM
Is this a deck measuring contest now
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: MaXX_I-D on October 19, 2021, 09:44:30 PM
Is this a deck measuring contest now
…always has been.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Roisto on October 19, 2021, 10:53:03 PM
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I feel like deck length might actually be something I’ve overlooked. Recently I had a deck with a 14.375” wb, which I usually consider too short but I loved it very much. Figured I’d been wrong and went with another deck with a 14.375” wb and I just can’t get along with it. Quite sure now that the main reason is actually the deck length. Usually I ride 14.5” or larger wheelbases and I guess they mostly come in longer decks. I have a 14.25” wb Toy Machine deck stashed that is quite long overall. Might set that up next to test the this further.
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Which boards worked / didn't work for you?

The usual BBS 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb I have found so good all round, but also the BBS 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.5 wb being a bigger rounder shape is good too, although not quite as nimble as the 8.38 size.  Note the 8.5 will often have 32 length listed, but they are definitely longer than the 8.38 size from companies like Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, Element, Passport and a heap of others.

Some of the older 8.25 size from various suppliers still had 14.5 wb and longer length too, which also work well when I stand on them, but as everything is going to shorter wheelbases now, it might be harder to find a good 14.5 wb board with a good length.

Antihero BA 9.25” shape worked beautifully and Polar P2 I just couldn’t get along with. Granted, there’s a big difference in the shapes and widths too but the Polar just feels so short. I’ve had the same kind of a feeling before between a few Toy Machine decks with 14.25” wb. The longer one just felt so much better than the shorter one.

But I will have to test this further because wheel size, risers/no risers, nose & tail lengths and steepnesses do come into play as well.

I did notice that smaller worn down wheels didn’t work well at all for me with the BA and bigger ones made it so much nicer right away. I usually run 1/8” risers these days but 58 mm wheels with risers on the P2 had me ghost popping like crazy. Took the risers off and switched to 54 mm wheels and it’s a lot more manageable but still feels too short. I notice it especially when doing nollie stuff and coming off from frontside slappies.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Woodshop on October 20, 2021, 08:31:18 AM
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I feel like deck length might actually be something I’ve overlooked. Recently I had a deck with a 14.375” wb, which I usually consider too short but I loved it very much. Figured I’d been wrong and went with another deck with a 14.375” wb and I just can’t get along with it. Quite sure now that the main reason is actually the deck length. Usually I ride 14.5” or larger wheelbases and I guess they mostly come in longer decks. I have a 14.25” wb Toy Machine deck stashed that is quite long overall. Might set that up next to test the this further.
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Which boards worked / didn't work for you?

The usual BBS 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb I have found so good all round, but also the BBS 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.5 wb being a bigger rounder shape is good too, although not quite as nimble as the 8.38 size.  Note the 8.5 will often have 32 length listed, but they are definitely longer than the 8.38 size from companies like Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, Element, Passport and a heap of others.

Some of the older 8.25 size from various suppliers still had 14.5 wb and longer length too, which also work well when I stand on them, but as everything is going to shorter wheelbases now, it might be harder to find a good 14.5 wb board with a good length.
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Antihero BA 9.25” shape worked beautifully and Polar P2 I just couldn’t get along with. Granted, there’s a big difference in the shapes and widths too but the Polar just feels so short. I’ve had the same kind of a feeling before between a few Toy Machine decks with 14.25” wb. The longer one just felt so much better than the shorter one.

But I will have to test this further because wheel size, risers/no risers, nose & tail lengths and steepnesses do come into play as well.

I did notice that smaller worn down wheels didn’t work well at all for me with the BA and bigger ones made it so much nicer right away. I usually run 1/8” risers these days but 58 mm wheels with risers on the P2 had me ghost popping like crazy. Took the risers off and switched to 54 mm wheels and it’s a lot more manageable but still feels too short. I notice it especially when doing nollie stuff and coming off from frontside slappies.


Yes I understand and agree with all that.

Some boards can feel so different, even with the same everything else.

If the kicks are too steep, I lose so much and feel way off balance, but if I skate a board with kicks that are too mellow and get used to that, everything else I skate feels weird for a while, so the natural adjustment takes a bit for some things, more than others.

That might not make as much sense - it is late and I should have been asleep a few hours ago.

Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Roisto on October 20, 2021, 10:37:17 AM
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I feel like deck length might actually be something I’ve overlooked. Recently I had a deck with a 14.375” wb, which I usually consider too short but I loved it very much. Figured I’d been wrong and went with another deck with a 14.375” wb and I just can’t get along with it. Quite sure now that the main reason is actually the deck length. Usually I ride 14.5” or larger wheelbases and I guess they mostly come in longer decks. I have a 14.25” wb Toy Machine deck stashed that is quite long overall. Might set that up next to test the this further.
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Which boards worked / didn't work for you?

The usual BBS 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb I have found so good all round, but also the BBS 8.5 x 32.5 with 14.5 wb being a bigger rounder shape is good too, although not quite as nimble as the 8.38 size.  Note the 8.5 will often have 32 length listed, but they are definitely longer than the 8.38 size from companies like Baker, Deathwish, Birdhouse, Element, Passport and a heap of others.

Some of the older 8.25 size from various suppliers still had 14.5 wb and longer length too, which also work well when I stand on them, but as everything is going to shorter wheelbases now, it might be harder to find a good 14.5 wb board with a good length.
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Antihero BA 9.25” shape worked beautifully and Polar P2 I just couldn’t get along with. Granted, there’s a big difference in the shapes and widths too but the Polar just feels so short. I’ve had the same kind of a feeling before between a few Toy Machine decks with 14.25” wb. The longer one just felt so much better than the shorter one.

But I will have to test this further because wheel size, risers/no risers, nose & tail lengths and steepnesses do come into play as well.

I did notice that smaller worn down wheels didn’t work well at all for me with the BA and bigger ones made it so much nicer right away. I usually run 1/8” risers these days but 58 mm wheels with risers on the P2 had me ghost popping like crazy. Took the risers off and switched to 54 mm wheels and it’s a lot more manageable but still feels too short. I notice it especially when doing nollie stuff and coming off from frontside slappies.
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Yes I understand and agree with all that.

Some boards can feel so different, even with the same everything else.

If the kicks are too steep, I lose so much and feel way off balance, but if I skate a board with kicks that are too mellow and get used to that, everything else I skate feels weird for a while, so the natural adjustment takes a bit for some things, more than others.

That might not make as much sense - it is late and I should have been asleep a few hours ago.

It definitely makes sense. I’m still searching for that Goldilocks setup myself. What exactly it is that makes it work. Steep kicks I can’t get along with. I prefer mellow but then I have to use big wheels and risers, which I actually prefer. Mellow kick boards aren’t that easy to come by though and in the past I’ve had to buy mostly online so it’s been very hit and miss for me and I’ve tried to make most things work sometimes for too long. Sometimes it just takes some adjustments and a little bit of time. Sometimes it just won’t work no matter what.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: S. on October 20, 2021, 10:43:23 AM
I likem‘ long and on the thinner side: 8.1*32. probably because I am 6 foot tall with smaller feet.

this usually means I have to buy deluxe shapes. I just bought an anti-Hero Austin kanfush, with those exact specs.

 Do you know any other brands who offer those shapes?
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: FrozenIndustries on October 20, 2021, 10:51:50 AM
I likem‘ long and on the thinner side: 8.1*32. probably because I am 6 foot tall with smaller feet.

this usually means I have to buy deluxe shapes. I just bought an anti-Hero Austin kanfush, with those exact specs.

 Do you know any other brands who offer those shapes?

Not everyones taste but DGK do some narrower boards with longer wheelbases. I like their shapes.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: S. on October 21, 2021, 12:50:21 AM
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I likem‘ long and on the thinner side: 8.1*32. probably because I am 6 foot tall with smaller feet.

this usually means I have to buy deluxe shapes. I just bought an anti-Hero Austin kanfush, with those exact specs.

 Do you know any other brands who offer those shapes?
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Not everyones taste but DGK do some narrower boards with longer wheelbases. I like their shapes.

I like DGK, but I haven't bought their decks in a while, because here in Germany they are 10-20 euros more expensive than any other brand. I would like to buy one, though.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Kevve on October 21, 2021, 07:49:08 AM
Im contemplating getting a 8.75 polar next time to match my truck size better, their 9 was so good with the super mellow concave. But its a 14,375 WB instead of my prefered 14.5 anyone notice any difference in that small change?

Length is about the same, i think they just put that 0.125 from the wb to the tail.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Roisto on October 21, 2021, 11:35:49 AM
Im contemplating getting a 8.75 polar next time to match my truck size better, their 9 was so good with the super mellow concave. But its a 14,375 WB instead of my prefered 14.5 anyone notice any difference in that small change?

Length is about the same, i think they just put that 0.125 from the wb to the tail.

The Polar 9.0” is actually 14.375” like all their other decks they claim to be 14.5”. Not sure about the 8.75”. Never had that myself.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Woodshop on October 21, 2021, 03:36:17 PM
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Im contemplating getting a 8.75 polar next time to match my truck size better, their 9 was so good with the super mellow concave. But its a 14,375 WB instead of my prefered 14.5 anyone notice any difference in that small change?

Length is about the same, i think they just put that 0.125 from the wb to the tail.
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The Polar 9.0” is actually 14.375” like all their other decks they claim to be 14.5”. Not sure about the 8.75”. Never had that myself.


I wonder if some listings for some shops are incorrect but even on the Polar site, the 9.0 popsicle has it listed as 14.5 which is a bit funny.

https://polarskateco.com/products/hjalte-halberg-lurking-wheel-well

9.0" X 32.25"  - WITH WHEEL WELLS
NOSE: 7.0"
WHEEL BASE: 14.5"
TAIL: 6.75"



The 8.75 Polar boards that I have are the same dimensions as this one (below).

The only thing I noticed is the tail really tapers a lot from the back bolts, but it still skates fine.


https://polarskateco.com/products/nick-bosserio-year-2020-moss-green


8.75" X 32.375"
NOSE: 7.25"
WHEEL BASE: 14.375"
TAIL: 6.75"

Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Jennydeath on November 03, 2022, 02:15:54 PM
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In my case my happy place is in 32.25 apparently
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Just want to point out that different companies measure length differently. Some use a straight tip to tip measurement and some include the curve/concave of the deck, so it's a good idea to be aware of how a retailer or company measures their decks.

For example, I have a Quasi AD 8.375 that you'll find listed as "32.25" most places as thats what quasi had on the site but if you measure it tip to tip it's actually 31.75", whereas I have an Antihero Austin Kanfoush deck that's 31.62" tip to tip which is exactly whats printed on the sticker. Any good skate shop will have a tape measure and will be more than happy to let you measure the decks if you want, or if you're shopping online you can always email the company or shop and ask them how they're measuring.

Also don't always trust whats on the label as theres sometimes significant variation in a decks size from manufacturing processes not being totally precise (where its at in the press stack and how its trimmed etc). I just got a WKND that's marked as 8.25" width but its actually closer to 8.38. This is the reason why Rodney Mullen was so adamant about using single deck pressing and cnc when he was setting up dwindle's chinese factory... it should theoretically give you an identical deck every time.

just want to let you know, I stopped buying quasi boards a long time ago, heartbroken every time I saw the board length.I was looking up some shorter board vs longer board threads and seen you're post

Just got off the phone with my local, they measured the board for me 31.75, same board is listed 32.25 by quasi.
thank you sir
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: dmtr on November 05, 2022, 07:50:41 AM
I hope someone can steer me in the right direction with this.

So I rode a Baker team deck 8.25 width - 31.875 length - 14.25 WB and switched it up to a Anti - Hero deck with dimensions 8.5 width - 31.62 length - 14.12 WB.

The wider AH deck felt more comfortable and stable for riding and cruising, but also felt too "far away" for doing tricks. The same feeling I had with the baker.
Too far away as in the deck length was too much, could not keep it close to me. As if my legs are too short too handle the length of the deck when it comes to doing tricks. I don't know if this makes any sense...

Been going to an 8" for a while, but really miss the the feeling and stability of the 8.5.

So I want to go back to the 8.5 or 8.25 ( with Indy 149's ), but never really cared for dimensions other than width. Before I make a choice of whatever deck peaks my interest ( and is on sale ) , I was wondering if someone could help me out with the above. Is their a specific shape I have to look for, to have a deck that is 8.25/8.5 wide but doesn't feels so big ? I reckon WB has a play into this? 

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: commander jameson on November 05, 2022, 09:13:10 AM
I likem‘ long and on the thinner side: 8.1*32. probably because I am 6 foot tall with smaller feet.

this usually means I have to buy deluxe shapes. I just bought an anti-Hero Austin kanfush, with those exact specs.

 Do you know any other brands who offer those shapes?

Exact same shapes like Antihero black eagle(8.125 x 32 with 14.25 WB and 7 inch nose and 6.75 tail) have Krooked, Real (watch out for occasional shorter 8.125 with 14 wb), Magenta and Polar.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 05, 2022, 09:00:03 PM
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I likem‘ long and on the thinner side: 8.1*32. probably because I am 6 foot tall with smaller feet.

this usually means I have to buy deluxe shapes. I just bought an anti-Hero Austin kanfush, with those exact specs.

 Do you know any other brands who offer those shapes?
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Exact same shapes like Antihero black eagle(8.125 x 32 with 14.25 WB and 7 inch nose and 6.75 tail) have Krooked, Real (watch out for occasional shorter 8.125 with 14 wb), Magenta and Polar.


For sure!


I feel like that shape has been used quite a bit across the BBS range, sometimes listed as 8.125 or just 8.12 in width.


As said already / adding a couple more I have seen in the 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb option:

DLX brands
DGK
Magenta
Polar
Passport
Darkroom
Frog
Skate Mental

Also some Generator / BBS shop boards that use that shape.


Another one I have not seen, but is of those measurements is the Deathwish / Baker B2 8.125


https://bakerskateboards.com/pages/board-construction


Another B2 was not the dimensions listed, so I would say check in person before buying that one online, but anyone seen that one to confirm?

Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: S. on November 06, 2022, 12:37:23 AM
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I likem‘ long and on the thinner side: 8.1*32. probably because I am 6 foot tall with smaller feet.

this usually means I have to buy deluxe shapes. I just bought an anti-Hero Austin kanfush, with those exact specs.

 Do you know any other brands who offer those shapes?
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Exact same shapes like Antihero black eagle(8.125 x 32 with 14.25 WB and 7 inch nose and 6.75 tail) have Krooked, Real (watch out for occasional shorter 8.125 with 14 wb), Magenta and Polar.


Yes, deluxe is where it‘s at! I have never tried magenta or Polar. I have been hesitant, because they use that jart woodshop.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: commander jameson on November 06, 2022, 03:45:58 AM
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I likem‘ long and on the thinner side: 8.1*32. probably because I am 6 foot tall with smaller feet.

this usually means I have to buy deluxe shapes. I just bought an anti-Hero Austin kanfush, with those exact specs.

 Do you know any other brands who offer those shapes?
[close]

Exact same shapes like Antihero black eagle(8.125 x 32 with 14.25 WB and 7 inch nose and 6.75 tail) have Krooked, Real (watch out for occasional shorter 8.125 with 14 wb), Magenta and Polar.
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Yes, deluxe is where it‘s at! I have never tried magenta or Polar. I have been hesitant, because they use that jart woodshop.

Magenta and Polar are also BBS.
Exact same shape as DLX decks (some small differences depending where deck was in the stack while being pressed or order of colored plies).
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: commander jameson on November 06, 2022, 03:51:12 AM
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I likem‘ long and on the thinner side: 8.1*32. probably because I am 6 foot tall with smaller feet.

this usually means I have to buy deluxe shapes. I just bought an anti-Hero Austin kanfush, with those exact specs.

 Do you know any other brands who offer those shapes?
[close]

Exact same shapes like Antihero black eagle(8.125 x 32 with 14.25 WB and 7 inch nose and 6.75 tail) have Krooked, Real (watch out for occasional shorter 8.125 with 14 wb), Magenta and Polar.
[close]


For sure!


I feel like that shape has been used quite a bit across the BBS range, sometimes listed as 8.125 or just 8.12 in width.


As said already / adding a couple more I have seen in the 8.12 x 32 with 14.25 wb option:

DLX brands
DGK
Magenta
Polar
Passport
Darkroom
Frog
Skate Mental

Also some Generator / BBS shop boards that use that shape.


Another one I have not seen, but is of those measurements is the Deathwish / Baker B2 8.125


https://bakerskateboards.com/pages/board-construction


Another B2 was not the dimensions listed, so I would say check in person before buying that one online, but anyone seen that one to confirm?

Baker\Deathwish B2 with 8.125 and 14.25 wb is different than usual BBS 8.125x32 decks, more mellow with more full nose and tail. Also deck that I tried Deathwish 8.125 with Ron Chatman Clown graphics was bit shorter, like 31.9 or so and not really 32 inch long. Very small difference in length but it might bother some people.
Title: Re: What about deck length?
Post by: Mbrimson88 on November 06, 2022, 02:53:11 PM


Baker\Deathwish B2 with 8.125 and 14.25 wb is different than usual BBS 8.125x32 decks, more mellow with more full nose and tail. Also deck that I tried Deathwish 8.125 with Ron Chatman Clown graphics was bit shorter, like 31.9 or so and not really 32 inch long. Very small difference in length but it might bother some people.


Thanks!

Good to know.


I feel like every other place has different measurements for the Baker or more so Deathwish decks, but never really see them in person.

Their 8.5s are the usual BBS size and shape, as well as the 8.38s which are still the same as DLX, which is the size I ride nowdays - 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb, but other sizes and shapes are different in their range.

I used to ride the old black eagle for a number of years though, hence the interest in the 8.12 size boards.