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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: skateboarder4life on March 17, 2020, 10:41:32 AM
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i'm 5E and can't find anything that doesn't make my feet BLEED. 5E is super wide. Regular shoes that you think "run wide" probably aren't going to work and i've probably tried them already. why aren't there any companies making even W skate shoes???
Anyone else with super wide feet? Do I need to just learn to skate in nonskate shoes?
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New Balance 212 and Figgy Dose are pretty wide. If you're partial to vans the skate-high is the widest shoe they offer.
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I have luck with the skate hi pro. And not much else.
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Half Cabs, the toe box isn't massive but they're one of the only pairs I can wear without wanting to change my shoes midway through the sesh.
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https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=98056.0
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85406.msg2366959#msg2366959
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i'm 5E and can't find anything that doesn't make my feet BLEED. 5E is super wide. Regular shoes that you think "run wide" probably aren't going to work and i've probably tried them already. why aren't there any companies making even W skate shoes???
Anyone else with super wide feet? Do I need to just learn to skate in nonskate shoes?
Because 99.999999% of people aren't freaks with bodyboard flippers as feet ;D
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RothDigga says AM 574 wide is as good as it getz.
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NB 212 are probably the widest I've tried. Sadly the midfoot is still pretty tight, it does stretch out after a while but I had to stop and like completely unlace them to restore blood flow to my toes a few times.
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NB# 420s tho
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NB# 420s tho
Where can you get those? They seem to be sold out everywhere.
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Where can you get those? They seem to be sold out everywhere.
I have a pair of these, they are comfy but def not 5E width.
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i tried every vans at the vans store and couldn't even get my toes into the largest size they had
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Have you tried the DC Evan Smith zero? They are pretty wide in the toebox
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Vans Sid Pro fits really wide to me. I've got a wide foot but was swimming in them especially after they broke in, ended up having to Rambo lace it real tight to keep skating them.
Side note, consider in investing in a shoe stretcher. I bought this one a few years ago: https://www.amazon.com/Xinlinke-Professional-Stretcher-Adjustable-Expander/dp/B01G5NO7X6 (https://www.amazon.com/Xinlinke-Professional-Stretcher-Adjustable-Expander/dp/B01G5NO7X6)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/ymUZu98ykB0ZuUtsxCSL4jN9kDo9OuMcnZ82xy7yBOg18nE4AzfetgXxYuD2a1nlZypvP059Ap869TVxHGuL23A22nf2o3HedvucIeNOUD3c5TndJzMrWoe75Mjp_w)
It fits into your shoe like a shoe tree/foot form does, but when you turn the dial it opens up the toe like in the photo. Your shoe looks funky as it is being stretched, doesn't look like a foot, but after you let it sit over night or up to 2 days and take it out, it relaxes to a more normal foot shape that is remarkably wider than it was originally.
I've used it to make some cheap adidas and converse samples I bought on eBay fit. Samples are size 9, and I'm more like a 9.5 or 10. It really does the trick, shoes fit great! They can stretch about a half size in length using that dial, and basically two sizes in width using the toe splitting dial on the stretcher. That width gain should help you.
One word of advice, the width stretching works best on suede constructions with fewer seams. A suede toecap is fine, but a suede toecap with crazy underlays and layer on layer may not work as well.
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i tried every vans at the vans store and couldn't even get my toes into the largest size they had
that's me as well kinda.
I have small square feet. Size 8.5-9ish.
My little toes don't even work because shoes have been a problem off and on most of my life.
Anyway I go dunk and if I can afford them FP game changers insoles.
Fuck pointed fucking elf shoes and Fuck shoe horns.
If I go cups its got to be Nike/converse and that sucks.
The air force 2 has a square toe box and my foot didn't water fall over the side of the cup.
Af2 runs .5 small compared to dunk.
The OL dunk or decon that's made that smooth black shit gets all stretched out like an old air walk. Wind up with a huge toe box with water fall action over the side of the cups.
Bongs
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RothDigga says AM 574 wide is as good as it getz.
These come in EE width. They're considered a 'lifestyle' shoe and not part of the Numeric line, but should be skateable. Some skate shops carry them, but to get the EE width, you'd probably have to get them direct from the New Balance site.
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RothDigga says AM 574 wide is as good as it getz.
These come in EE width. They're considered a 'lifestyle' shoe and not part of the Numeric line, but should be skateable. Some skate shops carry them, but to get the EE width, you'd probably have to get them direct from the New Balance site.
I thought about buying them, but there were hundreds of complaints about the shoes not being wide enough below the offer.
I have fat and wide feet. The last shoes I have managed to make work for me were marana mids (My heel would slip out on the regular maranas, because me instep is fat). They are a bit too tight for me, but after a few painful days they wore out a bit. Busenitz vulcs have been Ok for me as well. They fit me much better than the regular Busenitz which are a bit more narrow. I have also have skated adidas campus adv (Order half a size up!) and NB# 255s (order a whole size up!). Also és accel OGs are pretty wide, but they also tend to be kind of short so I would order half a size up. I also like the és accel mids (the new model). They get a bit wider after a few painful days.
I would say none of these shoes have fit me comfortably and I got calluses, but after breaking them in they were OK. Unfortunately skate products are not made for us thick boys.
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Where can you get those? They seem to be sold out everywhere.
I found the 913 much roomier than the 420. Really square toebox.
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Where can you get those? They seem to be sold out everywhere.
I found the 913 much roomier than the 420. Really square toebox.
You can also manhandle the sidewalks on the 913 and make em a lil wider towards the end of the toebox. Kinda changes the shape from square to round.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B97ElrklhNU/?igshid=1tcosoicb3aqk
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B97ElrklhNU/?igshid=1tcosoicb3aqk
Yes! this is more like what my foot is actually shaped like!
is this shoe not out yet???
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Yes! this is more like what my foot is actually shaped like!
is this shoe not out yet???
thinking around July
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B97ElrklhNU/?igshid=1tcosoicb3aqk
It looks to be approved by 1010
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B97ElrklhNU/?igshid=1tcosoicb3aqk
what does that mean?
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dc kalis og kinda wide
shayom
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Adidas March court have a wide toe box, so much so that anytime I’ve recommended them, I’ve told people to size down.
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just tried the new balance 574 in 2E which is the only shoe in this thread i hadn't tried yet. i don't see how they can label this as 2E as it is narrower than most other shoes in regular width. extremely narrow and pointy shows. Ridiculous.
Any other recommendations until the NB Tiagos come out?
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Accel OG
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Where can you get those? They seem to be sold out everywhere.
I found the 913 much roomier than the 420. Really square toebox.
Just ordered a pair on the internet. I only realized afterwards they were coming from Spain. Who knows when they will arrive. Damn, I hope no one coughs on them.
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Lakai Freemont. Definitely try them at a store, while they are very wide I felt that they ran a little short length wise.
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Where can you get those? They seem to be sold out everywhere.
I found the 913 much roomier than the 420. Really square toebox.
Just ordered a pair on the internet. I only realized afterwards they were coming from Spain. Who knows when they will arrive. Damn, I hope no one coughs on them.
They actually aren't that wide. I can make them work, but my toes hurt! They also do not last very well. I have had to use alot of shoe goo. And they are pretty much done after 20 sessions. I do feel kind of bad about that coughing remark I made.
I put on my facemask and went to the reopened street mall to find a new pair of shoes. I tried on way to many pairs and most of them were too narrow. I found a few shoes that fit though: the adidas rivalry shoes have a pretty wide toe box. I can definitely recommend them if you are into skate shoes that have a thicker sole.
https://www.amazon.com/-/de/adidas-Rivalry-Original-Shoes-EE5921/dp/B07WXN7QG9/ref=sr_1_4?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=adidas+rivalry&qid=1590244813&sr=8-4
These were also fairly wide, but the sole was a bit to thin for me.
https://www.amazon.com/-/de/Trainer-Sneakers-Ponderosa-Pine-Puma-White-Puma/dp/B07DC24JY7/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=puma+icra+sd&qid=1590244708&sr=8-1
https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B07KRX9XRG/ref=twister_B083GH8LLT?th=1
I ended up buying the adidas daily 2.0. They also have wider toe box and just felt very comfortable.
https://www.amazon.com/-/de/adidas-Daily-Sneaker-Black-White/dp/B07233JC3H/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=adidas%2Bdaily&qid=1590244269&sr=8-1&th=1
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Globes
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My Kalis OG’s are too wide for me to skate.
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I just bought the es Evant shoe. It is pretty much a remake of the old Koston 3s. The shoe is pretty wide.
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Is the Evant as wide as the OG Accel?
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Yes! this is more like what my foot is actually shaped like!
is this shoe not out yet???
Damn that’s hyp, best looking NB i’ve seen in decades
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dc kalis og kinda wide
shayom
Yeah this one is actually kinda wide. I haven’t skated mine much tho, they fit me a little too long.
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I just bought the es Evant shoe. It is pretty much a remake of the old Koston 3s. The shoe is pretty wide.
I bought some too, they're hella wide. I'd say pretty close to the Accel OG.
That eS tribo that came out a earlier in the year was pretty wide, i heard that's supposed to drop next month again but as a normal seasonal drop instead of a special release
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If you know somewhere near you that stocks Straye shoes (and you don't care that some people will think you're a kook for wearing them), then you could try the Venice. I know a guy with the craziest wide hobbit feet and he's on his fifth pair of those shoes because he can't find anything else that fits without having to go up two sizes. There's a lowtop version too.
(https://i.ibb.co/2nhfDsY/images-13.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2nhfDsY)
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If you know somewhere near you that stocks Straye shoes (and you don't care that some people will think you're a kook for wearing them), then you could try the Venice. I know a guy with the craziest wide hobbit feet and he's on his fifth pair of those shoes because he can't find anything else that fits without having to go up two sizes. There's a lowtop version too.
(https://i.ibb.co/2nhfDsY/images-13.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2nhfDsY)
Stanley is the Straye shoe that I recommend in most of the wide shoes threads and the Venice was nicely wide for me too.
Both are very comfy and wider than many other shoes on the market.
They also skated as good as all other vulcs I’ve skated and lasted almost just as long.
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I have super wide feet as well, I need EE's at minimum.
Using some of the advice on this thread I just ordered 4 different size 12 models from Zappo's because my local shop still ain't opened.....
Here are my findings:
New Globe Appleyard Mahalo: best looking of the bunch and I love the ollie pad but a little too narrow at the tip.
New Balance 574 All Coasts: Widest toe box and most comfortable out the box but I passed 'em up because the synthetic mesh fabric did not look like it could take much griptape abuse before shredding into fuzz. I tried so hard to score EE skate NBs via their websites and zappo's but no luck.
Etnies Marana: almost as wide and comfy as the NB 574, easily stretched overnight with some bunched up socks. Sole is stiff at first and does not give great boardfeel but I don't need it for my old-guy skating which is limited to curbs and bowls.
Etnies Joslin though better looking than the Marana they were just a bit narrower, plus they don't protect against tetanus.
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I have super wide feet as well, I need EE's at minimum.
Using some of the advice on this thread I just ordered 4 different size 12 models from Zappo's because my local shop still ain't opened.....
Here are my findings:
New Globe Appleyard Mahalo: best looking of the bunch and I love the ollie pad but a little too narrow at the tip.
New Balance 574 All Coasts: Widest toe box and most comfortable out the box but I passed 'em up because the synthetic mesh fabric did not look like it could take much griptape abuse before shredding into fuzz. I tried so hard to score EE skate NBs via their websites and zappo's but no luck.
Etnies Marana: almost as wide and comfy as the NB 574, easily stretched overnight with some bunched up socks. Sole is stiff at first and does not give great boardfeel but I don't need it for my old-guy skating which is limited to curbs and bowls.
Etnies Joslin though better looking than the Marana they were just a bit narrower, plus they don't protect against tetanus.
I am skating the ES Silos right now and they are perfect for my feet. They fit like Lakai Telfords and Nike Dunks if those worked for you.
Also, the Straye Venice are not as wide as the Vans Sk8-Hi pro. Those are the nicest toe box but there is no heal lock and the soles are so thin I can only wear them on ramp, but the board feel is great.
I wear size 12 in all these if it helps. I don’t believe in sizing down or up. If the 12 won’t fit it wasn’t meant to be.
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Any updates on new skates shoes with an actually wide toe box? Still waiting and hoping for something that will fit
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Idk if it's abnormally wide but I like the Chukka.
I got a new pair the other day. They got a new insole and we're a little tighter than my last pair for an hr or two but now they are nice.
My feet are small short and square af. My toes are permanently throwing up gang signs from my childhood kicks.
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Any updates on new skates shoes with an actually wide toe box? Still waiting and hoping for something that will fit
Have you tried the adidas matchbreak as someone recommended? Went to check some shoes today, they were by far the widest shoes i saw as far as toebox, also pretty cheap
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Adidas Matchbreaks get my vote also, every wide footer should atleast check them out
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Vans rowans... I have a weirdly wide foot, to the point where in different brands I'm completely different sizes (cons= 7 cons hi tops=7.5 vans slips = 8 vans hi tops=7 vans old skool=8 vans crocketts=7.5) I got some fucked feet lolol... BUt 10000000% stand behind the rowans, really wide toebox compared to the skate hi I found it more roomy (wiggle room on my toes)..... I have this problem normally becvause of my wide feet, but I found the rowans a bit tight around my arch for at max 1-2 sessions then it completely broke in..... Not only is it a wide fat toe box, but that fuckin toe is thicccccc, I normally blow thru vans toes looong before the sole but I barely put a dent into the rowans toes before blowing out the sole (maybe because ive been skating more tranny lately) Anyway, rant done I FUCK WITH THE ROWANS HEAVY & MY WIDE FOOT BOI'S SHOULD TOO SAVED MY SHIT!!!
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If you know somewhere near you that stocks Straye shoes (and you don't care that some people will think you're a kook for wearing them), then you could try the Venice. I know a guy with the craziest wide hobbit feet and he's on his fifth pair of those shoes because he can't find anything else that fits without having to go up two sizes. There's a lowtop version too.
(https://i.ibb.co/2nhfDsY/images-13.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2nhfDsY)
Both are very comfy and wider than many other shoes on the market.
They also skated as good as all other vulcs I’ve skated and lasted almost just as long.
I had the state venice, and I threw them out cause they were to narrow. this was 2 or 3 years ago, it's possible they've re-adjust the sizing since then
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If you know somewhere near you that stocks Straye shoes (and you don't care that some people will think you're a kook for wearing them), then you could try the Venice. I know a guy with the craziest wide hobbit feet and he's on his fifth pair of those shoes because he can't find anything else that fits without having to go up two sizes. There's a lowtop version too.
(https://i.ibb.co/2nhfDsY/images-13.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2nhfDsY)
Both are very comfy and wider than many other shoes on the market.
They also skated as good as all other vulcs I’ve skated and lasted almost just as long.
I had the state venice, and I threw them out cause they were to narrow. this was 2 or 3 years ago, it's possible they've re-adjust the sizing since then
I had a pair of logans last year that actually had a wide enough forefoot and toebox from that 30$ sale. With insole replacement they were fine, even if they have that ugly ass branding all over (and I didn't even have the flame ones haha)
Are you all sure about the Adidas Matchbreak? That toe comes to a point, it doesn't look like a very wide toebox. I may be missing something...
From my personal experience... NB212, the typical vans, and some soletech shoes have worked for me. The emerica gammas I have right now come to a point but not until far enough after my toes that I feel like my toes have more room than in my vans. I really wish more shoes had that big round toe that 212s have, since I like the flick of that kind of shoe more anyway - the emerica toe gives me the sloppiest kickflips
Also, 440s are unbearably narrow, even if aesthetically they appear to have a wider toebox it doesn't feel like it in practice. Then again I have very wide forefeet as well as needing a wide toe box
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I am skating the dc Chris Coles from like 2014 I found them on EBay and they fit me perfectly.
For work I am wearing NB 574 all coasts EE. They fit Fine and I will skate them next.
Other shoes that have worked for me: Adidas busenitz Vulc, Adidas tyshawn, emerica Reynolds vulc
The Marana is too narrow for me, but I have been able to make them work with some pain in my big toes the first three weeks. I won‘t buy them anymore.
The NB# 255s are wide, but you need to size up at least a whole size. Shoes are super short for some reason.
I‘d like to find another good cupsole that is wide enough for me. Kyle Walker 1s are nice and wide, but the shoe softens up like crazy and doesn’t feel good anymore after a few weeks of skating them. The NB 574 is not available in EE anymore.
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Are you all sure about the Adidas Matchbreak? That toe comes to a point, it doesn't look like a very wide toebox. I may be missing something...
Rarely shoes fit me that good straight out of box. I recommend atleast trying those out if a nearby shop carries them
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Are you all sure about the Adidas Matchbreak? That toe comes to a point, it doesn't look like a very wide toebox. I may be missing something...
Damn I'm going to have to try them then...
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The converse fastbreak mids have a pretty wide toe box
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The converse fastbreak mids have a pretty wide toe box
T hi s is true but they got zero Ollie protection because they are nylon or whatever. I would not buy these again.
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Lord of the rings hobbit foot havin mf
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Are you all sure about the Adidas Matchbreak? That toe comes to a point, it doesn't look like a very wide toebox. I may be missing something...
Damn I'm going to have to try them then...
(https://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/adidas-matchbreak-super-release-date-2.jpg)
Very wide, in fact.
The problem I have is that width is too low/close to the end of the mid foot, I need more width here:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OQVvl8qg0zJUwOcHKeCFmgq56XSQH40-S2QnnOP1spqBmt8J-wbzARRNZuxmdkNm_AZ9rOdI3hxZt2nx5zUfRA-xY7vPMErH3Kum9_JSvdc8wZg1MqVPcK74qyK97vdTTUO8YcVIs_0=w2400)
This is why so many trainers fit me better as they have toe boxes like this, with more width after the first lace loop
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1Nh7bkLJJwS12bG8bqiBNa3LLGtg7jCr31vNaStmSL5Z1e8Nc9UjQbPnQtMoaGj8dvtFenyCQNjNgozAEvuTS9Bvg88MV)
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Are you all sure about the Adidas Matchbreak? That toe comes to a point, it doesn't look like a very wide toebox. I may be missing something...
Damn I'm going to have to try them then...
(https://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/adidas-matchbreak-super-release-date-2.jpg)
Very wide, in fact.
The problem I have is that width is too low/close to the end of the mid foot, I need more width here:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OQVvl8qg0zJUwOcHKeCFmgq56XSQH40-S2QnnOP1spqBmt8J-wbzARRNZuxmdkNm_AZ9rOdI3hxZt2nx5zUfRA-xY7vPMErH3Kum9_JSvdc8wZg1MqVPcK74qyK97vdTTUO8YcVIs_0=w2400)
This is why so many trainers fit me better as they have toe boxes like this, with more width after the first lace loop
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1Nh7bkLJJwS12bG8bqiBNa3LLGtg7jCr31vNaStmSL5Z1e8Nc9UjQbPnQtMoaGj8dvtFenyCQNjNgozAEvuTS9Bvg88MV)
I have the same problem. One way to solve it is to go a size up, but I hate having extra shoe and not feeling my board well when I flip.
Try the NB# 255s. They are a similar shoe to that Adidas one you posted and they aren’t as pointy. If you do go a size up. They run very short.
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Match break are horrible and don't seem to be any wider than Vans which are all extremely narrow. Upon comparison, all Vans seem to use the same cupsoles. Out of curiosity I went up to the largest size they made and they were still too narrow, even with about 5 inches of extra space in front of the toes due to sizing up so much.
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Match break are horrible and don't seem to be any wider than Vans which are all extremely narrow. Upon comparison, all Vans seem to use the same cupsoles. Out of curiosity I went up to the largest size they made and they were still too narrow, even with about 5 inches of extra space in front of the toes due to sizing up so much.
This is what I was wondering - I wear altra and lems for the gym and everyday needs and have not had any luck with most skate shoes. Those matchbreaks look too pointy to me, which is why I was wondering if I was missing something. Vans vulcanized shoes are mostly what I wear (with a different insole because I can't stand chunky insoles), but they have that awful break-in period with your pinky toe. I thought the vans sid was especially wide in the toebox for a vans shoe, but I'm sure it's not really (I'm sure it's the same last as something else - maybe the sk8hi) but it did still have that break-in period. The only shoes I have not experienced this awful break in period for, and that had a toe box that even began to mimic the toe on one of those shoes, were new balance 212 and straye logan. I haven't bought another straye since because I just could not stand the branding on it, but the 212 was perfectly fine if you add a flat insole so your feet don't get murdered by the ground.
I have not found a sufficient cupsole in this shape, everything I've tried has been too narrow. The NB 440s were especially bad for me between the toecap they have and the lack of height in the toebox. I'm afraid of the NB 1010s because that heel looks like too much, but I imagine you've already looked at that shoe anyway. The emerica gammas I have are wide enough throughout and have a long enough toe that it offsets this issue (it's like they could have made it a round toebox similar to the 212 but extended it and put a point on it instead) but if you don't have wide feet I can't imagine whether they would be comfortable or not.
I've been wondering whether the superstar adv has a wide enough toebox since it's rounded at least, but the heel is probably still too giant for me.
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my feet are not too insanely wide, but i have definitely just sized up at many shoes in the past. once they break in they usually feel a little less loose somehow, maybe because the extra toe length gets soft enough to stop catching on things all the time.
i used to have good luck with pretty much all vans, but they changed up most of their shapes to be more narrow around 2013, or whenever they split the lineup into skate and non-skate. now i have to be choosy. currently rocking crockett highs that work pretty well, will probably try to just keep skating this model as long as it's available. The TNTs usually work for me as well, if I size up. Which is weird because I don't need to size up on the Crocketts.
Also I concur with anyone who suggests NBs in general, they're usually a width-friendly company. They're my go-to for non-skate sneakers (990 ftw) and I've had a few numerics that worked for me as well.
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Agreed that Adidas are way too pointy. To me this thread is more skate shoes that are closest to resembling barefoot/minimalist shape. I had my first session in the NB# 272. It has a pretty wide toebox, same shape as the 288S. The nice thing about that shape is it doesn't push the big toes in much. The 272 has a bit of a heel lift, but I combatted that by combining a thicker insole in the front, thinner in the back (taped together). I currently like it more than the 212 since I need a bit thicker sole than what the 212 has.
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Adidas sizing is so cooked. But when you get it right, for me, they are the best fitting shoes.
Is anyone else a half sizer?? 80% of my life (43) I’ve bought size 12’s and for the most part just got on with it. But I realised my true size is 11.5. Makes the fuxking world of difference!!! I’ve even been sizing down to 11 (most adidas models and definitely converse)
I have a high arch and can’t get my foot into a size 12 janoskis if you paid me.
I don’t do slip on’s but ordered a pair of Vans slips from the net a few years ago to see what the fuss is about (at the time there was only 2 skate shop in my city and neither had whites). I had to stretch them out heaps and no go. Till I cut the elastic out and now they work. Just.
(https://i.ibb.co/Stb66GR/C55-AC92-D-BAC9-40-A5-921-B-314956-B2204-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Stb66GR)
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The first Gen Evan Smiths were fucking great. I miss them.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1324/9125/files/adys300380_pew_1.jpg?16221915136084627462)
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Vans Wayvee are pretty darn roomy
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Vans Wayvee are pretty darn roomy
They are, but I'm not of fan of how roomy they are everywhere, I have to tighten them soo much to get good heel grab.
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Are you all sure about the Adidas Matchbreak? That toe comes to a point, it doesn't look like a very wide toebox. I may be missing something...
Damn I'm going to have to try them then...
(https://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/adidas-matchbreak-super-release-date-2.jpg)
Very wide, in fact.
The problem I have is that width is too low/close to the end of the mid foot, I need more width here:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OQVvl8qg0zJUwOcHKeCFmgq56XSQH40-S2QnnOP1spqBmt8J-wbzARRNZuxmdkNm_AZ9rOdI3hxZt2nx5zUfRA-xY7vPMErH3Kum9_JSvdc8wZg1MqVPcK74qyK97vdTTUO8YcVIs_0=w2400)
This is why so many trainers fit me better as they have toe boxes like this, with more width after the first lace loop
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1Nh7bkLJJwS12bG8bqiBNa3LLGtg7jCr31vNaStmSL5Z1e8Nc9UjQbPnQtMoaGj8dvtFenyCQNjNgozAEvuTS9Bvg88MV)
I have the same problem. One way to solve it is to go a size up, but I hate having extra shoe and not feeling my board well when I flip.
Try the NB# 255s. They are a similar shoe to that Adidas one you posted and they aren’t as pointy. If you do go a size up. They run very short.
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Nabbed these in 10.5 for $48
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0013/8795/4221/products/nm255brn_nb_02_i_1024x1024.jpg?v=1619534604)
Either my feet or their sizing is/are odd:
NB# Cupsole: 9.5 = too tight but almost, 10 = waaaaaay too big
NB# Vulc: 10 = too small but not as tight as a cup, 10.5 just about right, I think? just a hair on the long side (but less than say, the wavey or rowans)...but I chalk that up to the 10.5 (for the record I tried the 379 (sour) Mid in a 10 and it was too small, probably could have gone 10.5 based on the 255s but oddly I prefer this ugly brown/black colorway (it is fall after all!).
PLENTY of room where I need it tho, threw in some FP gamechangers to compensate for Vulc and off we go!
Thanks for the suggestion!
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I really like Adidas Match Courts and have a few pairs in the stash. Busted some out today for the first time in ages and the toe box definitely has width
(https://i.ibb.co/7N9kp6g/34-FC1-CFC-DD6-E-480-E-AFE4-CDB68815-A0-D9.png) (https://ibb.co/7N9kp6g)
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I really like Adidas Match Courts and have a few pairs in the stash. Busted some out today for the first time in ages and the toe box definitely has width
(https://i.ibb.co/7N9kp6g/34-FC1-CFC-DD6-E-480-E-AFE4-CDB68815-A0-D9.png) (https://ibb.co/7N9kp6g)
I politely disagree. My toes were so tight I had to give the shoes away. Unskatable for me.
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Are you all sure about the Adidas Matchbreak? That toe comes to a point, it doesn't look like a very wide toebox. I may be missing something...
Damn I'm going to have to try them then...
(https://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/adidas-matchbreak-super-release-date-2.jpg)
Very wide, in fact.
The problem I have is that width is too low/close to the end of the mid foot, I need more width here:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OQVvl8qg0zJUwOcHKeCFmgq56XSQH40-S2QnnOP1spqBmt8J-wbzARRNZuxmdkNm_AZ9rOdI3hxZt2nx5zUfRA-xY7vPMErH3Kum9_JSvdc8wZg1MqVPcK74qyK97vdTTUO8YcVIs_0=w2400)
This is why so many trainers fit me better as they have toe boxes like this, with more width after the first lace loop
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1Nh7bkLJJwS12bG8bqiBNa3LLGtg7jCr31vNaStmSL5Z1e8Nc9UjQbPnQtMoaGj8dvtFenyCQNjNgozAEvuTS9Bvg88MV)
I have the same problem. One way to solve it is to go a size up, but I hate having extra shoe and not feeling my board well when I flip.
Try the NB# 255s. They are a similar shoe to that Adidas one you posted and they aren’t as pointy. If you do go a size up. They run very short.
@S.
Nabbed these in 10.5 for $48
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0013/8795/4221/products/nm255brn_nb_02_i_1024x1024.jpg?v=1619534604)
Either my feet or their sizing is/are odd:
NB# Cupsole: 9.5 = too tight but almost, 10 = waaaaaay too big
NB# Vulc: 10 = too small but not as tight as a cup, 10.5 just about right, I think? just a hair on the long side (but less than say, the wavey or rowans)...but I chalk that up to the 10.5 (for the record I tried the 379 (sour) Mid in a 10 and it was too small, probably could have gone 10.5 based on the 255s but oddly I prefer this ugly brown/black colorway (it is fall after all!).
PLENTY of room where I need it tho, threw in some FP gamechangers to compensate for Vulc and off we go!
Thanks for the suggestion!
Cheers! Yes, NB's sizing is super odd.
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Dunks fit my stubby loaf feet perfectly but are impossible to find now :/
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Are you all sure about the Adidas Matchbreak? That toe comes to a point, it doesn't look like a very wide toebox. I may be missing something...
Damn I'm going to have to try them then...
(https://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/adidas-matchbreak-super-release-date-2.jpg)
Very wide, in fact.
The problem I have is that width is too low/close to the end of the mid foot, I need more width here:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OQVvl8qg0zJUwOcHKeCFmgq56XSQH40-S2QnnOP1spqBmt8J-wbzARRNZuxmdkNm_AZ9rOdI3hxZt2nx5zUfRA-xY7vPMErH3Kum9_JSvdc8wZg1MqVPcK74qyK97vdTTUO8YcVIs_0=w2400)
This is why so many trainers fit me better as they have toe boxes like this, with more width after the first lace loop
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1Nh7bkLJJwS12bG8bqiBNa3LLGtg7jCr31vNaStmSL5Z1e8Nc9UjQbPnQtMoaGj8dvtFenyCQNjNgozAEvuTS9Bvg88MV)
I have the same problem. One way to solve it is to go a size up, but I hate having extra shoe and not feeling my board well when I flip.
Try the NB# 255s. They are a similar shoe to that Adidas one you posted and they aren’t as pointy. If you do go a size up. They run very short.
@S.
Nabbed these in 10.5 for $48
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0013/8795/4221/products/nm255brn_nb_02_i_1024x1024.jpg?v=1619534604)
Either my feet or their sizing is/are odd:
NB# Cupsole: 9.5 = too tight but almost, 10 = waaaaaay too big
NB# Vulc: 10 = too small but not as tight as a cup, 10.5 just about right, I think? just a hair on the long side (but less than say, the wavey or rowans)...but I chalk that up to the 10.5 (for the record I tried the 379 (sour) Mid in a 10 and it was too small, probably could have gone 10.5 based on the 255s but oddly I prefer this ugly brown/black colorway (it is fall after all!).
PLENTY of room where I need it tho, threw in some FP gamechangers to compensate for Vulc and off we go!
Thanks for the suggestion!
Cheers! Yes, NB's sizing is super odd.
Put the stock insoles back in as I prefer the outer side foot support the insole provides, feels like it is keeping my mid foot centered whereas the FPs, while better arch support, I feel like I'm slopping over to the outside of the shoe.
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Kyle Walkers give me plenty of room w the waffle cup
Sk8 Hi OG too
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Kyle Walkers give me plenty of room w the waffle cup
I had a pair at launch, wide mid-foot, narrow toe box for me.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=98056.0
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I really like Adidas Match Courts and have a few pairs in the stash. Busted some out today for the first time in ages and the toe box definitely has width
(https://i.ibb.co/7N9kp6g/34-FC1-CFC-DD6-E-480-E-AFE4-CDB68815-A0-D9.png) (https://ibb.co/7N9kp6g)
I politely disagree. My toes were so tight I had to give the shoes away. Unskatable for me.
You might be right. I have a size 12 foot (in nikes) but I spose my toes do kinda curve in. But the match courts are one of the only shoes I have to tie tight to skate them properly. And they skate great then!
(https://i.ibb.co/NT4zyn6/E68146-B7-A689-4-ACE-8179-1-FCB0-F3-B7-A10.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NT4zyn6)anonymous image upload (https://imgbb.com/)
Sorry in advance for the foot photo. Just showing you what I mean with have a wide foot at the ball point but toes going in. Imagine if this turned into a thread of skaters feet lol! Feels kinda weird knowing there’s a massive group of people that get off on feet ha!
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you could scoop a tre so deep w that toe bro
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I really like Adidas Match Courts and have a few pairs in the stash. Busted some out today for the first time in ages and the toe box definitely has width
(https://i.ibb.co/7N9kp6g/34-FC1-CFC-DD6-E-480-E-AFE4-CDB68815-A0-D9.png) (https://ibb.co/7N9kp6g)
I politely disagree. My toes were so tight I had to give the shoes away. Unskatable for me.
You might be right. I have a size 12 foot (in nikes) but I spose my toes do kinda curve in. But the match courts are one of the only shoes I have to tie tight to skate them properly. And they skate great then!
(https://i.ibb.co/NT4zyn6/E68146-B7-A689-4-ACE-8179-1-FCB0-F3-B7-A10.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NT4zyn6)anonymous image upload (https://imgbb.com/)
Sorry in advance for the foot photo. Just showing you what I mean with have a wide foot at the ball point but toes going in. Imagine if this turned into a thread of skaters feet lol! Feels kinda weird knowing there’s a massive group of people that get off on feet ha!
I wouldn't say that your foot is really that wide
Still respect you posting it haha
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The first Gen Evan Smiths were fucking great. I miss them.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1324/9125/files/adys300380_pew_1.jpg?16221915136084627462)
That whole t funk debacle was pretty stupid, especially when him and Wes Kramer kept their heads down kept skating now they both dont have promodels and skate a generic looking shoe by Dc, while kalis has a Vulc model.
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I really like Adidas Match Courts and have a few pairs in the stash. Busted some out today for the first time in ages and the toe box definitely has width
(https://i.ibb.co/7N9kp6g/34-FC1-CFC-DD6-E-480-E-AFE4-CDB68815-A0-D9.png) (https://ibb.co/7N9kp6g)
I politely disagree. My toes were so tight I had to give the shoes away. Unskatable for me.
You might be right. I have a size 12 foot (in nikes) but I spose my toes do kinda curve in. But the match courts are one of the only shoes I have to tie tight to skate them properly. And they skate great then!
(https://i.ibb.co/NT4zyn6/E68146-B7-A689-4-ACE-8179-1-FCB0-F3-B7-A10.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NT4zyn6)anonymous image upload (https://imgbb.com/)
Sorry in advance for the foot photo. Just showing you what I mean with have a wide foot at the ball point but toes going in. Imagine if this turned into a thread of skaters feet lol! Feels kinda weird knowing there’s a massive group of people that get off on feet ha!
Still respect you posting it haha
I somehow feel dirty/naked now haha!
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The first Gen Evan Smiths were fucking great. I miss them.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1324/9125/files/adys300380_pew_1.jpg?16221915136084627462)
That whole t funk debacle was pretty stupid, especially when him and Wes Kramer kept their heads down kept skating now they both dont have promodels and skate a generic looking shoe by Dc, while kalis has a Vulc model.
No doubt. I almost bit on the tfunks but those fucking Color-ways we’re dumpster fire. Faux Navajo print? Wtf.
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I took a photo of the match court next to a Louie. Both shoes are exactly the same length. To me match’s are wide. But that’s just me.
(https://i.ibb.co/4mkgFr6/75-A3-F07-E-C920-4-AB6-B371-C3759-E9577-CE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4mkgFr6)
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I took a photo of the match court next to a Louie. Both shoes are exactly the same length. To me match’s are wide. But that’s just me.
(https://i.ibb.co/4mkgFr6/75-A3-F07-E-C920-4-AB6-B371-C3759-E9577-CE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4mkgFr6)
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I took a photo of the match court next to a Louie. Both shoes are exactly the same length. To me match’s are wide. But that’s just me.
(https://i.ibb.co/4mkgFr6/75-A3-F07-E-C920-4-AB6-B371-C3759-E9577-CE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4mkgFr6)
Me too
I guess it depends on the shape of your toes. I don‘t want to post a picture of my toes, but my big toes don‘t turn inward as much as on the photo posted above. There is a gap between my big toe and the other toes. Making my feet much wider in the front.
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I took a photo of the match court next to a Louie. Both shoes are exactly the same length. To me match’s are wide. But that’s just me.
(https://i.ibb.co/4mkgFr6/75-A3-F07-E-C920-4-AB6-B371-C3759-E9577-CE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4mkgFr6)
Me too
I guess it depends on the shape of your toes. I don‘t want to post a picture of my toes, but my big toes don‘t turn inward as much as on the photo posted above. There is a gap between my big toe and the other toes. Making my feet much wider in the front.
yeah , I basically have space between all the toes.
(https://i.imgur.com/1Hge7yN.jpg)
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I've had good luck as mentioned here with the NB 255's. I feel some rub on my pinky toes when I first get a new pair. But when broken in they fit me well. Had a tough time the other day finding a pair online for less than full price. However I only searched for a bit.
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6AOeNbWmhGU5prlu_TSj8l3y1e-vGZQpjhVjdhCkFZl_Cr4BL3nIUWZ8F2zT0g0-qLgRPq1Zvtib7aHMI2jvvJTZyUbE03cDRB5MoAPqzh9-CeHqn-TmglAw69Lj1fNojl_5hhaWZaw=w2400)
This is what I'm dealing with. Vans Wavey, rowans, DC smiths, Nike Bruins (once they bag out) and the NB 255s work. Hate the way vans fit the rest of my foot tho.
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The first Gen Evan Smiths were fucking great. I miss them.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1324/9125/files/adys300380_pew_1.jpg?16221915136084627462)
Still my biggest regret that I never got these. I guess the NB 212s are the closest thing to this now, yeah?
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The first Gen Evan Smiths were fucking great. I miss them.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1324/9125/files/adys300380_pew_1.jpg?16221915136084627462)
Still my biggest regret that I never got these. I guess the NB 212s are the closest thing to this now, yeah?
Looks real close. As a fan of the DC smith, the NB255s in a half sized larger than I usually get are really great. Medium heel, narrow mid food big ass toe box.
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The first Gen Evan Smiths were fucking great. I miss them.
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1324/9125/files/adys300380_pew_1.jpg?16221915136084627462)
Still my biggest regret that I never got these. I guess the NB 212s are the closest thing to this now, yeah?
Looks real close. As a fan of the DC smith, the NB255s in a half sized larger than I usually get are really great. Medium heel, narrow mid food big ass toe box.
Looks like they have higher foxing than the 212s, which also seems ideal. I prefer the vulc/rubber flick with the higher foxing like rowans or skate classics so i'll have to try them
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With Gylette hoping on Globe, I went and checked out their shoe offerings...they've got what looks like pretty wide toe-box shoes.
Shame there are few mids in stock around the web to try on.
https://us.globebrand.com/products/motley-mid-coffeegumplus?variant=39307735826467
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2516/3312/products/[email protected]?v=1625693480)
https://us.globebrand.com/products/los-angered-ii-midnightblack?variant=39307727994915 - looks a lot like the DC Smith
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2516/3312/products/[email protected]?v=1625690526)
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/6AOeNbWmhGU5prlu_TSj8l3y1e-vGZQpjhVjdhCkFZl_Cr4BL3nIUWZ8F2zT0g0-qLgRPq1Zvtib7aHMI2jvvJTZyUbE03cDRB5MoAPqzh9-CeHqn-TmglAw69Lj1fNojl_5hhaWZaw=w2400)
This is what I'm dealing with. Vans Wavey, rowans, DC smiths, Nike Bruins (once they bag out) and the NB 255s work. Hate the way vans fit the rest of my foot tho.
I had good luck with the tnt prototypes. Those were great toeboxes
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With Gylette hoping on Glove, I went and checked out their shoe offerings...they've got what looks like pretty wide toe-box shoes.
Shame there are few mids in stock around the web to try on.
https://us.globebrand.com/products/motley-mid-coffeegumplus?variant=39307735826467
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2516/3312/products/[email protected]?v=1625693480)
https://us.globebrand.com/products/los-angered-ii-midnightblack?variant=39307727994915 - looks a lot like the DC Smith
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2516/3312/products/[email protected]?v=1625690526)
I tried a pair of the mahalo plus and for once they are wide enough, but still no wide toe box. A little wider than old skools at the pinky toe but not as good as the rowans (once those are stretched out). Still, I think there's potential; I want to try the low top with the toe cap thats similar to that los angered since it looks better even
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Are you all sure about the Adidas Matchbreak? That toe comes to a point, it doesn't look like a very wide toebox. I may be missing something...
Damn I'm going to have to try them then...
(https://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/adidas-matchbreak-super-release-date-2.jpg)
Very wide, in fact.
The problem I have is that width is too low/close to the end of the mid foot, I need more width here:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OQVvl8qg0zJUwOcHKeCFmgq56XSQH40-S2QnnOP1spqBmt8J-wbzARRNZuxmdkNm_AZ9rOdI3hxZt2nx5zUfRA-xY7vPMErH3Kum9_JSvdc8wZg1MqVPcK74qyK97vdTTUO8YcVIs_0=w2400)
This is why so many trainers fit me better as they have toe boxes like this, with more width after the first lace loop
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1Nh7bkLJJwS12bG8bqiBNa3LLGtg7jCr31vNaStmSL5Z1e8Nc9UjQbPnQtMoaGj8dvtFenyCQNjNgozAEvuTS9Bvg88MV)
I have the same problem. One way to solve it is to go a size up, but I hate having extra shoe and not feeling my board well when I flip.
Try the NB# 255s. They are a similar shoe to that Adidas one you posted and they aren’t as pointy. If you do go a size up. They run very short.
@S.
Nabbed these in 10.5 for $48
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0013/8795/4221/products/nm255brn_nb_02_i_1024x1024.jpg?v=1619534604)
Either my feet or their sizing is/are odd:
NB# Cupsole: 9.5 = too tight but almost, 10 = waaaaaay too big
NB# Vulc: 10 = too small but not as tight as a cup, 10.5 just about right, I think? just a hair on the long side (but less than say, the wavey or rowans)...but I chalk that up to the 10.5 (for the record I tried the 379 (sour) Mid in a 10 and it was too small, probably could have gone 10.5 based on the 255s but oddly I prefer this ugly brown/black colorway (it is fall after all!).
PLENTY of room where I need it tho, threw in some FP gamechangers to compensate for Vulc and off we go!
Thanks for the suggestion!
Cheers! Yes, NB's sizing is super odd.
Put the stock insoles back in as I prefer the outer side foot support the insole provides, feels like it is keeping my mid foot centered whereas the FPs, while better arch support, I feel like I'm slopping over to the outside of the shoe.
Put the FP Gamechangers back in as the ball of my left foot was hurting each session I'd wear these stock. Skated today, no issues with the FPs.
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I've got some cranky, janky feet, wide fucking feet. Due to injuries, Right Foot is wider than left as well... After a couple skates, the new model half cabs are pretty decent. Berle pros were pretty wide right outta box.
Everything else leaves me limping.
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New Balance 272’s, my friend. Most of the shoes in recent memory that I have skated hurt my toes (ordered in no particular order: Vans Chima 2, DC Tiago(these ones killed my toes BAD even after they were broken in), Vans Style 112, Kyle Walker 1’s (So bad that I didn’t even finish skating the life out of the shoe yet because they’re so unenjoyable)). The Chima 2s are still my favorite skate shoe even though they kill my toes and it becomes more noticeable as the session goes by
The only ones that didn’t hurt my toes too bad were the Rowan’s, One Star Pros, and Louie Lopez Lows.
But the New Balance 272’s are roomier and more enjoyable to skate than all of them simply because I don’t have to worry about something I should even be worried about (toe pain) when I’m skating. Theres room in the toes, forefoot isn’t tight, and they lock in your heel nicely. Highly recommend. Will pick up another pair.
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New Balance 272’s, my friend. Most of the shoes in recent memory that I have skated hurt my toes (ordered in no particular order: Vans Chima 2, DC Tiago(these ones killed my toes BAD even after they were broken in), Vans Style 112, Kyle Walker 1’s (So bad that I didn’t even finish skating the life out of the shoe yet because they’re so unenjoyable)). The Chima 2s are still my favorite skate shoe even though they kill my toes and it becomes more noticeable as the session goes by
The only ones that didn’t hurt my toes too bad were the Rowan’s, One Star Pros, and Louie Lopez Lows.
But the New Balance 272’s are roomier and more enjoyable to skate than all of them simply because I don’t have to worry about something I should even be worried about (toe pain) when I’m skating. Theres room in the toes, forefoot isn’t tight, and they lock in your heel nicely. Highly recommend. Will pick up another pair.
The 255s have been perfect for me, zero complaints (they are a no frills shoe, buyer beware). I've picked up some 272s to have on ice and can only assume the 306 (Foy) would fit similarly given the shape of the toe box. The 10.5 vulc from NB# is a perfect fit...
The only bummer is I'd prefer a cupsole that fits as well (and the NB sizing in cup doesn't fit my foot).
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New Balance 272’s, my friend. Most of the shoes in recent memory that I have skated hurt my toes (ordered in no particular order: Vans Chima 2, DC Tiago(these ones killed my toes BAD even after they were broken in), Vans Style 112, Kyle Walker 1’s (So bad that I didn’t even finish skating the life out of the shoe yet because they’re so unenjoyable)). The Chima 2s are still my favorite skate shoe even though they kill my toes and it becomes more noticeable as the session goes by
The only ones that didn’t hurt my toes too bad were the Rowan’s, One Star Pros, and Louie Lopez Lows.
But the New Balance 272’s are roomier and more enjoyable to skate than all of them simply because I don’t have to worry about something I should even be worried about (toe pain) when I’m skating. Theres room in the toes, forefoot isn’t tight, and they lock in your heel nicely. Highly recommend. Will pick up another pair.
The 255s have been perfect for me, zero complaints (they are a no frills shoe, buyer beware). I've picked up some 272s to have on ice and can only assume the 306 (Foy) would fit similarly given the shape of the toe box. The 10.5 vulc from NB# is a perfect fit...
The only bummer is I'd prefer a cupsole that fits as well (and the NB sizing in cup doesn't fit my foot).
Has anyone tried the és silo sc or the quatro? They seem like they are wider cupsole shoes.
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New Balance 440 High (not the low) fit fairly wide. This is due in part to the vamp being higher since it is a mid/high top shoe. For reference, I’ve worn a NB 990 in a 2E width, size 10, and the 440 Hi in a size 10 fits comfortable (in suede or leather). In the past, it’s been a lot of compromise with shoes, but these are my cinderella skate shoes…for now.
I also have a deformity with my foot called metatarsus adductus ( https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/metatarsus-adductus%3famp=true (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/metatarsus-adductus%3famp=true)), so in addition to my foot being wide, it also has a weird angle to it (it’s not super wild but, I just went to a podiatrist recently and discovered this).
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New Balance 272’s, my friend. Most of the shoes in recent memory that I have skated hurt my toes (ordered in no particular order: Vans Chima 2, DC Tiago(these ones killed my toes BAD even after they were broken in), Vans Style 112, Kyle Walker 1’s (So bad that I didn’t even finish skating the life out of the shoe yet because they’re so unenjoyable)). The Chima 2s are still my favorite skate shoe even though they kill my toes and it becomes more noticeable as the session goes by
The only ones that didn’t hurt my toes too bad were the Rowan’s, One Star Pros, and Louie Lopez Lows.
But the New Balance 272’s are roomier and more enjoyable to skate than all of them simply because I don’t have to worry about something I should even be worried about (toe pain) when I’m skating. Theres room in the toes, forefoot isn’t tight, and they lock in your heel nicely. Highly recommend. Will pick up another pair.
The 255s have been perfect for me, zero complaints (they are a no frills shoe, buyer beware). I've picked up some 272s to have on ice and can only assume the 306 (Foy) would fit similarly given the shape of the toe box. The 10.5 vulc from NB# is a perfect fit...
The only bummer is I'd prefer a cupsole that fits as well (and the NB sizing in cup doesn't fit my foot).
Has anyone tried the és silo sc or the quatro? They seem like they are wider cupsole shoes.
Silo SC is roomier than the Quattro. The Quattro is a little more stubby/snug fit in the toe box compared to the Silo SC. Silo SC definitely has a more forgiving toe box and is wider, not as pointy, more toe height, etc. Personally, those two models run small (just like the Marana and Joslin), so go up 0.5 from your regular siz for a better fit.
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Adidas City Cup's would be worth a look, really good shoe and the toebox really doesn't taper/point
And as pointless as it is to suggest SB Dunks as a viable option to buy and skate, they're pretty wide IMHO.
Obviously a nice pair of Adrian Lopez Circa's too...
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If you can, check out the SB Force 58s (wannabe dunks).
https://www.nike.com/t/sb-force-58-skate-shoe-Fslk1b
Breaking in pair right now walking around my place and they're plenty wide enough for me (better than the bruin reacts).
Tiagos won't fit me and I'm not chasing dunks so these will have to do (I do enjoy looking down at them).
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(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0014/0928/6207/files/Splay_Freestyle_Shoes5_2808x.jpg)
I'm over a week deep in some actual wide ass toebox shoes. They aren't skate shoes although they kind of look like Vans. They are some Splay - Freestyle shoes. They rule. I had to shoe goo them obviously because they are canvas, but the sole is good and has been holding up. They are really comfy. The flick is an adjustment, but for anyone looking to skate in minimalist shoes this is the first pair that's worked for me (I've tried Lems and Xeros too)
https://splayshoes.com/collections/mens-shoes/Mens (https://splayshoes.com/collections/mens-shoes/Mens)
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If you can, check out the SB Force 58s (wannabe dunks).
https://www.nike.com/t/sb-force-58-skate-shoe-Fslk1b
Breaking in pair right now walking around my place and they're plenty wide enough for me (better than the bruin reacts).
Tiagos won't fit me and I'm not chasing dunks so these will have to do (I do enjoy looking down at them).
So two days wearing them around the house (had a 24hr stomach bug/noro) and these things are ready to skate. The toebox broke in bigtime, feels super comfy with no pinch...will skate them soon; for how fast they broke in, I am questioning the overall durability.
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Has anyone mentioned the dc lynx OG? They’re really wide, and great for skating. They’re stupidly puffy tho
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The Lakai Griffin fit my wide feet nicely..
(https://i.ibb.co/xh6QHBB/8ae84e0542aea7da57ea944683cd7aa5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xh6QHBB)
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(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0014/0928/6207/files/Splay_Freestyle_Shoes5_2808x.jpg)
I'm over a week deep in some actual wide ass toebox shoes. They aren't skate shoes although they kind of look like Vans. They are some Splay - Freestyle shoes. They rule. I had to shoe goo them obviously because they are canvas, but the sole is good and has been holding up. They are really comfy. The flick is an adjustment, but for anyone looking to skate in minimalist shoes this is the first pair that's worked for me (I've tried Lems and Xeros too)
https://splayshoes.com/collections/mens-shoes/Mens (https://splayshoes.com/collections/mens-shoes/Mens)
Been wanting to try my Xero's on a board maybe on my polarizer
Half size up on Half Cab's is usually what I get
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Are you all sure about the Adidas Matchbreak? That toe comes to a point, it doesn't look like a very wide toebox. I may be missing something...
Damn I'm going to have to try them then...
(https://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/adidas-matchbreak-super-release-date-2.jpg)
Very wide, in fact.
The problem I have is that width is too low/close to the end of the mid foot, I need more width here:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OQVvl8qg0zJUwOcHKeCFmgq56XSQH40-S2QnnOP1spqBmt8J-wbzARRNZuxmdkNm_AZ9rOdI3hxZt2nx5zUfRA-xY7vPMErH3Kum9_JSvdc8wZg1MqVPcK74qyK97vdTTUO8YcVIs_0=w2400)
This is why so many trainers fit me better as they have toe boxes like this, with more width after the first lace loop
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1Nh7bkLJJwS12bG8bqiBNa3LLGtg7jCr31vNaStmSL5Z1e8Nc9UjQbPnQtMoaGj8dvtFenyCQNjNgozAEvuTS9Bvg88MV)
I have the same problem. One way to solve it is to go a size up, but I hate having extra shoe and not feeling my board well when I flip.
Try the NB# 255s. They are a similar shoe to that Adidas one you posted and they aren’t as pointy. If you do go a size up. They run very short.
@S.
Nabbed these in 10.5 for $48
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0013/8795/4221/products/nm255brn_nb_02_i_1024x1024.jpg?v=1619534604)
Either my feet or their sizing is/are odd:
NB# Cupsole: 9.5 = too tight but almost, 10 = waaaaaay too big
NB# Vulc: 10 = too small but not as tight as a cup, 10.5 just about right, I think? just a hair on the long side (but less than say, the wavey or rowans)...but I chalk that up to the 10.5 (for the record I tried the 379 (sour) Mid in a 10 and it was too small, probably could have gone 10.5 based on the 255s but oddly I prefer this ugly brown/black colorway (it is fall after all!).
PLENTY of room where I need it tho, threw in some FP gamechangers to compensate for Vulc and off we go!
Thanks for the suggestion!
Cheers! Yes, NB's sizing is super odd.
Put the stock insoles back in as I prefer the outer side foot support the insole provides, feels like it is keeping my mid foot centered whereas the FPs, while better arch support, I feel like I'm slopping over to the outside of the shoe.
Put the FP Gamechangers back in as the ball of my left foot was hurting each session I'd wear these stock. Skated today, no issues with the FPs.
Would removing the extra padding on the ball of your feet help create a happy medium between arch and the word elevation? Or maybe throwing the extra heel pads FP adds on to some of the stock insoles helps?
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Are you all sure about the Adidas Matchbreak? That toe comes to a point, it doesn't look like a very wide toebox. I may be missing something...
Damn I'm going to have to try them then...
(https://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/adidas-matchbreak-super-release-date-2.jpg)
Very wide, in fact.
The problem I have is that width is too low/close to the end of the mid foot, I need more width here:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OQVvl8qg0zJUwOcHKeCFmgq56XSQH40-S2QnnOP1spqBmt8J-wbzARRNZuxmdkNm_AZ9rOdI3hxZt2nx5zUfRA-xY7vPMErH3Kum9_JSvdc8wZg1MqVPcK74qyK97vdTTUO8YcVIs_0=w2400)
This is why so many trainers fit me better as they have toe boxes like this, with more width after the first lace loop
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1Nh7bkLJJwS12bG8bqiBNa3LLGtg7jCr31vNaStmSL5Z1e8Nc9UjQbPnQtMoaGj8dvtFenyCQNjNgozAEvuTS9Bvg88MV)
I have the same problem. One way to solve it is to go a size up, but I hate having extra shoe and not feeling my board well when I flip.
Try the NB# 255s. They are a similar shoe to that Adidas one you posted and they aren’t as pointy. If you do go a size up. They run very short.
@S.
Nabbed these in 10.5 for $48
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0013/8795/4221/products/nm255brn_nb_02_i_1024x1024.jpg?v=1619534604)
Either my feet or their sizing is/are odd:
NB# Cupsole: 9.5 = too tight but almost, 10 = waaaaaay too big
NB# Vulc: 10 = too small but not as tight as a cup, 10.5 just about right, I think? just a hair on the long side (but less than say, the wavey or rowans)...but I chalk that up to the 10.5 (for the record I tried the 379 (sour) Mid in a 10 and it was too small, probably could have gone 10.5 based on the 255s but oddly I prefer this ugly brown/black colorway (it is fall after all!).
PLENTY of room where I need it tho, threw in some FP gamechangers to compensate for Vulc and off we go!
Thanks for the suggestion!
Cheers! Yes, NB's sizing is super odd.
Put the stock insoles back in as I prefer the outer side foot support the insole provides, feels like it is keeping my mid foot centered whereas the FPs, while better arch support, I feel like I'm slopping over to the outside of the shoe.
Put the FP Gamechangers back in as the ball of my left foot was hurting each session I'd wear these stock. Skated today, no issues with the FPs.
Would removing the extra padding on the ball of your feet help create a happy medium between arch and the word elevation? Or maybe throwing the extra heel pads FP adds on to some of the stock insoles helps?
I just stopped wearing them after trying numerous insoles (Stock, FP, Etnies, etc.); I didn't bother with the heelpads or the removal of the ball pads on the FPs or adding the heel pads, but I would assume that removing the front pad would created a bit more drop to the shoe (but I wouldn't want to remove that since that padding was probably helping my foot).
It could have also been an impact issue and or a gym-related issue (calf raises on the ball of my foot).
The Nike 58s I'm wearing now (and the Bruin Reacts before the 255s) don't cause the foot pain and fit a bit better anyway.
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It could have also been an impact issue and or a gym-related issue (calf raises on the ball of my foot).
I be telling' y'all
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=108723.msg3676020#msg3676020
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i don’t have any data or pics but my last resorts 001 feel wider than most shoes i’ve had
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The new Reynolds Skate Half Cab is waaaay too wide for my narrow-ish feet, I could never skate them.
Length-wise they appear fine, maybe slightly long. Coming from Blazer’s this was a shock to me. I have to crank ‘em down otherwise my feet move around in them. Back to Blazers I guess.
I use them for chilling, won’t ever be able to skate them. Might be worth a look if you have wide feet.
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New Balance 272’s, my friend. Most of the shoes in recent memory that I have skated hurt my toes (ordered in no particular order: Vans Chima 2, DC Tiago(these ones killed my toes BAD even after they were broken in), Vans Style 112, Kyle Walker 1’s (So bad that I didn’t even finish skating the life out of the shoe yet because they’re so unenjoyable)). The Chima 2s are still my favorite skate shoe even though they kill my toes and it becomes more noticeable as the session goes by
The only ones that didn’t hurt my toes too bad were the Rowan’s, One Star Pros, and Louie Lopez Lows.
But the New Balance 272’s are roomier and more enjoyable to skate than all of them simply because I don’t have to worry about something I should even be worried about (toe pain) when I’m skating. Theres room in the toes, forefoot isn’t tight, and they lock in your heel nicely. Highly recommend. Will pick up another pair.
The 255s have been perfect for me, zero complaints (they are a no frills shoe, buyer beware). I've picked up some 272s to have on ice and can only assume the 306 (Foy) would fit similarly given the shape of the toe box. The 10.5 vulc from NB# is a perfect fit...
The only bummer is I'd prefer a cupsole that fits as well (and the NB sizing in cup doesn't fit my foot).
Has anyone tried the és silo sc or the quatro? They seem like they are wider cupsole shoes.
Thank you! I think I will try the Silo Sc next.
I just bought the tyshawn mids. They are not that wide, but I think I can make it work. I would compare the fit to a Marana mid.
Other than that they feel a bit tight in the toe box they are an amazing shoe. Very stable but not limiting ancle movement. A good balance between a thicker cupsole and good boardfeel. I bought them half a size up.
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i don’t have any data or pics but my last resorts 001 feel wider than most shoes i’ve had
yeah, they look narrow from the design, i got wideish feet and went half size down, i still swim in them. I still didn't find the perfect pair of shoes for me. I love the Shane/Janoski but they take forever to get wide enough and break in.
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(https://i.ibb.co/WPfJd5S/E79786-B3-4529-42-E6-8344-67-D0-D17-B8730.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WPfJd5S)
Look at these ugly fuckers, great deadlift shoes tho….mids, zero drop, rubber toe cap…so close yet so far…
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Xen, those reeboks (I think?) are sick. Kind of bummed I grabbed lems for deadlifting instead of those. Wish we could get a skate shoe in that shape with more cushion.
Update on the Globe Mahalo Plus - surprisingly not bad. Pretty sturdy underneath for a vulc, but also nice and flexible for pretty 360 flips and transition. The vulc sides don't compress my toes anywhere near as bad as many other shoes, though I think the Rowans are still wider at the pinky toe.
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I thought I had wide feet and have gone through the zero drop thing with Lems, Altras, Bedrocks. Recently a shoe guy at REI measured me and said I have typical C width but my low arch causes toes to splay out making me think I need wides. Since then I’ve been using Superfeet insoles and do arch support exercises. So your wide ass hobbit feet may have been normal at some point but have since been ruined by years of unsupportive skate shoes.
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Cross posting this from vegan shoes thread for visibility
Just got some Fallen Patriots (size 12) and they may have the widest toe box of any skate shoes I've ever had in my life. First impressions in terms of comfort, construction quality and aesthetics are superlative but we'll see how they break in.
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Xen, those reeboks (I think?) are sick. Kind of bummed I grabbed lems for deadlifting instead of those. Wish we could get a skate shoe in that shape with more cushion.
Update on the Globe Mahalo Plus - surprisingly not bad. Pretty sturdy underneath for a vulc, but also nice and flexible for pretty 360 flips and transition. The vulc sides don't compress my toes anywhere near as bad as many other shoes, though I think the Rowans are still wider at the pinky toe.
@fakie varial flip Yup, the reebok power lites
https://www.reebok.com/us/reebok-power-lite-mid-men-s-training-shoes/G55580.html
Got them 50% off + stacked a code with some other gear. They're great. It was either these or no bull (trying them next). If you get them, size down a 1/2 size, if not a full size depending on how snug you like your DL shoes. I wear a 10 and went with a 9.5, just a bit of room in the front of the shoe, probably a 1/8 of an inch (since I'm not jumping around in them they're fine; I use them on shoulder day as well for BB shrugs, 250+ so nice and grounded with them.
I'm still rocking the Nike SB Force 58s, second pair, they break in crazy fast (the soles last but the rest of the shoe goes pretty quick, and are decent to look it at (top down when skating, dunk vibes). Zero pinching or foot issues.
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Xen, those reeboks (I think?) are sick. Kind of bummed I grabbed lems for deadlifting instead of those. Wish we could get a skate shoe in that shape with more cushion.
Update on the Globe Mahalo Plus - surprisingly not bad. Pretty sturdy underneath for a vulc, but also nice and flexible for pretty 360 flips and transition. The vulc sides don't compress my toes anywhere near as bad as many other shoes, though I think the Rowans are still wider at the pinky toe.
@fakie varial flip Yup, the reebok power lites
https://www.reebok.com/us/reebok-power-lite-mid-men-s-training-shoes/G55580.html
Got them 50% off + stacked a code with some other gear. They're great. It was either these or no bull (trying them next). If you get them, size down a 1/2 size, if not a full size depending on how snug you like your DL shoes. I wear a 10 and went with a 9.5, just a bit of room in the front of the shoe, probably a 1/8 of an inch (since I'm not jumping around in them they're fine; I use them on shoulder day as well for BB shrugs, 250+ so nice and grounded with them.
I'm still rocking the Nike SB Force 58s, second pair, they break in crazy fast (the soles last but the rest of the shoe goes pretty quick, and are decent to look it at (top down when skating, dunk vibes). Zero pinching or foot issues.
Thanks for the tip on the Reeboks, I'll keep an eye on them. They look really nice, or at least comparable to my lems for DLing. How are the force 58s working now? I'm fed up with the Rowans pinching at the ball of the foot ;D
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The new Reynolds Skate Half Cab is waaaay too wide for my narrow-ish feet, I could never skate them.
Length-wise they appear fine, maybe slightly long. Coming from Blazer’s this was a shock to me. I have to crank ‘em down otherwise my feet move around in them. Back to Blazers I guess.
I use them for chilling, won’t ever be able to skate them. Might be worth a look if you have wide feet.
aright, I knew these were wider despite there being no discernible difference... I fucking LOVE them. slipped em on and right out the box they felt great on my wide, fucked up feet. I like need to stock up before vans stops making this particular model.
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The new Reynolds Skate Half Cab is waaaay too wide for my narrow-ish feet, I could never skate them.
Length-wise they appear fine, maybe slightly long. Coming from Blazer’s this was a shock to me. I have to crank ‘em down otherwise my feet move around in them. Back to Blazers I guess.
I use them for chilling, won’t ever be able to skate them. Might be worth a look if you have wide feet.
aright, I knew these were wider despite there being no discernible difference... I fucking LOVE them. slipped em on and right out the box they felt great on my wide, fucked up feet. I like need to stock up before vans stops making this particular model.
I swear they fit me way more comfortably than the normal skate half-cabs too. I don't understand how it's possible but they definitely feel like it
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I'm pretty into the wide toe box / barefoot shoe thing and the New Balance 272 has been the best skate shoe for that vibe for me. The toe box is nice and wide and the arch support minimal. The heel is slightly raised, but these are only skate shoes that leave my feet feeling normal after a session. I think they're also slightly longer than some of the other numeric models so that might be part of it. They have plenty of protection too. I've landed primo a number of times and have gotten away with it every time.
Here's a pic of the other NBs I've tried and a few shoes popular in the wide toe box world. I'm a size 12 so here's a summary of how the others felt compared to the 272s.
255 - Started here. These felt pretty nice but something about how they placed the laces leads to me ripping one basically every session.
440 - Grabbed these next. Super bummed these didn't work out because these seems to always get great colorways. They're more squared off so my middle toes are a little more snug than I'd like, but that might work for your foot shape. The killer for me was the built in arch support. It's high. I'm used to minimalist shoes so after even a half hour in these my soles feel like they lost a fight.
306L - I was excited to try these after burning through laces in 255s. They were great for a while but the elastic on my flick foot gave out and now it's pretty floppy. They are a little narrower than the 272s.
I really appreciate the variety of sizes and shapes New Balance offers. It can make finding your fit an expensive hassle, especially when they don't even have a dealer locator for their Numeric line on their website, but it's nice that they seem to offer something for everyone.
(https://i.ibb.co/7SDwFzg/96-EFBFFC-345-C-4-EAF-8-C96-871-CBAF3-B679.jpg)
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I'm pretty into the wide toe box / barefoot shoe thing and the New Balance 272 has been the best skate shoe for that vibe for me. The toe box is nice and wide and the arch support minimal. The heel is slightly raised, but these are only skate shoes that leave my feet feeling normal after a session. I think they're also slightly longer than some of the other numeric models so that might be part of it. They have plenty of protection too. I've landed primo a number of times and have gotten away with it every time.
Here's a pic of the other NBs I've tried and a few shoes popular in the wide toe box world. I'm a size 12 so here's a summary of how the others felt compared to the 272s.
255 - Started here. These felt pretty nice but something about how they placed the laces leads to me ripping one basically every session.
440 - Grabbed these next. Super bummed these didn't work out because these seems to always get great colorways. They're more squared off so my middle toes are a little more snug than I'd like, but that might work for your foot shape. The killer for me was the built in arch support. It's high. I'm used to minimalist shoes so after even a half hour in these my soles feel like they lost a fight.
306L - I was excited to try these after burning through laces in 255s. They were great for a while but the elastic on my flick foot gave out and now it's pretty floppy. They are a little narrower than the 272s.
I really appreciate the variety of sizes and shapes New Balance offers. It can make finding your fit an expensive hassle, especially when they don't even have a dealer locator for their Numeric line on their website, but it's nice that they seem to offer something for everyone.
(https://i.ibb.co/7SDwFzg/96-EFBFFC-345-C-4-EAF-8-C96-871-CBAF3-B679.jpg)
The 255s were the best fit for me, 1/2 size up, but after a few weeks, the ball of my foot always hurt, and immediately after putting them on and just walking...
272s in my size (10) felt too long, but great width-wise.
Foys, in a 10 were snug, 10.5, swimming and heel slip....
10 in the 1010 tiago too big (heel slip for days), 9.5 too small (the leather ones, I felt cramped height-wise in the toe box
Westgates, same thing as hte 1010s but much more narrow, as are all the 'square toed' NB#
I've pretty much sworn NB# off but I too, appreciate the amount of options they have, sadly I can't find one that works. I might try the 255s again.
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New Balance 272’s, my friend. Most of the shoes in recent memory that I have skated hurt my toes (ordered in no particular order: Vans Chima 2, DC Tiago(these ones killed my toes BAD even after they were broken in), Vans Style 112, Kyle Walker 1’s (So bad that I didn’t even finish skating the life out of the shoe yet because they’re so unenjoyable)). The Chima 2s are still my favorite skate shoe even though they kill my toes and it becomes more noticeable as the session goes by
The only ones that didn’t hurt my toes too bad were the Rowan’s, One Star Pros, and Louie Lopez Lows.
But the New Balance 272’s are roomier and more enjoyable to skate than all of them simply because I don’t have to worry about something I should even be worried about (toe pain) when I’m skating. Theres room in the toes, forefoot isn’t tight, and they lock in your heel nicely. Highly recommend. Will pick up another pair.
The 255s have been perfect for me, zero complaints (they are a no frills shoe, buyer beware). I've picked up some 272s to have on ice and can only assume the 306 (Foy) would fit similarly given the shape of the toe box. The 10.5 vulc from NB# is a perfect fit...
The only bummer is I'd prefer a cupsole that fits as well (and the NB sizing in cup doesn't fit my foot).
Has anyone tried the és silo sc or the quatro? They seem like they are wider cupsole shoes.
I just bought the tyshawn mids. They are not that wide, but I think I can make it work. I would compare the fit to a Marana mid.
Other than that they feel a bit tight in the toe box they are an amazing shoe. Very stable but not limiting ancle movement. A good balance between a thicker cupsole and good boardfeel. I bought them half a size up.
Damnit, I just bought some (arriving today) in hopes they were wide enough as the 3ST.003 was the last pair of Adidas I owned and they were fine once they broke in (tho I wasn't impressed with the grip).
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Tyshawns landed, width-wise I could make them work but if I take a step or 'walk out' as if I was bailing, my toes jam right to the front, there's no room up there...
Do y'all just buy half sizes up and deal with the clown shoe feel?
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Tyshawns landed, width-wise I could make them work but if I take a step or 'walk out' as if I was bailing, my toes jam right to the front, there's no room up there...
Do y'all just buy half sizes up and deal with the clown shoe feel?
I fucking hated this shoe. It has a great flick but I got a grade 3 sprain in it on a simple flatground varial heel which cost me almost 5 months of skating. I'm still skating vans and nb212s with flat footprint insoles, wishing for a bearable cupsole.
I did try the new balance 440 high and was surprised to find it is far wider feeling than the 440 low. Like icetheknees said, couldnt stand the arch support though, even with replacing the insole.
I don't buy half sizes up because it drags against the previously injured ligament and makes it feel terrible, so I just stick with lightweight vulcs for now so theyre mushy and flexible
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Tyshawns landed, width-wise I could make them work but if I take a step or 'walk out' as if I was bailing, my toes jam right to the front, there's no room up there...
Do y'all just buy half sizes up and deal with the clown shoe feel?
I fucking hated this shoe. It has a great flick but I got a grade 3 sprain in it on a simple flatground varial heel which cost me almost 5 months of skating. I'm still skating vans and nb212s with flat footprint insoles, wishing for a bearable cupsole.
I did try the new balance 440 high and was surprised to find it is far wider feeling than the 440 low. Like icetheknees said, couldnt stand the arch support though, even with replacing the insole.
I don't buy half sizes up because it drags against the previously injured ligament and makes it feel terrible, so I just stick with lightweight vulcs for now so theyre mushy and flexible
My knees prefer cups, that's the issue I'm having, vulcs with footprints are passable but I can't think of doing anything consisting of impact (not that I'm hucking these days).
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Tyshawns landed, width-wise I could make them work but if I take a step or 'walk out' as if I was bailing, my toes jam right to the front, there's no room up there...
Do y'all just buy half sizes up and deal with the clown shoe feel?
I fucking hated this shoe. It has a great flick but I got a grade 3 sprain in it on a simple flatground varial heel which cost me almost 5 months of skating. I'm still skating vans and nb212s with flat footprint insoles, wishing for a bearable cupsole.
I did try the new balance 440 high and was surprised to find it is far wider feeling than the 440 low. Like icetheknees said, couldnt stand the arch support though, even with replacing the insole.
I don't buy half sizes up because it drags against the previously injured ligament and makes it feel terrible, so I just stick with lightweight vulcs for now so theyre mushy and flexible
My knees prefer cups, that's the issue I'm having, vulcs with footprints are passable but I can't think of doing anything consisting of impact (not that I'm hucking these days).
Oh I get that. I would never skate another shoe if they would make the ave pro with some toe room... I still think about trying tiagos at least once a week haha
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Tyshawns landed, width-wise I could make them work but if I take a step or 'walk out' as if I was bailing, my toes jam right to the front, there's no room up there...
Do y'all just buy half sizes up and deal with the clown shoe feel?
I fucking hated this shoe. It has a great flick but I got a grade 3 sprain in it on a simple flatground varial heel which cost me almost 5 months of skating. I'm still skating vans and nb212s with flat footprint insoles, wishing for a bearable cupsole.
I did try the new balance 440 high and was surprised to find it is far wider feeling than the 440 low. Like icetheknees said, couldnt stand the arch support though, even with replacing the insole.
I don't buy half sizes up because it drags against the previously injured ligament and makes it feel terrible, so I just stick with lightweight vulcs for now so theyre mushy and flexible
My knees prefer cups, that's the issue I'm having, vulcs with footprints are passable but I can't think of doing anything consisting of impact (not that I'm hucking these days).
Oh I get that. I would never skate another shoe if they would make the ave pro with some toe room... I still think about trying tiagos at least once a week haha
The AVEs were decent enough, I didn't like the way they pinched across the toebox, the materials were weird too, especially after they got all sweaty.
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I fucking hated this shoe. It has a great flick but I got a grade 3 sprain in it on a simple flatground varial heel which cost me almost 5 months of skating. I'm still skating vans and nb212s with flat footprint insoles, wishing for a bearable cupsole.
I did the same thing on a fakie varial heel in a pair of red Tyshawns, i've had two pairs since but won't be skating red ones again lol.
Surprised to see Tyshawns in this thread... they're narrow AF, which i love as i've got skinny feet so finding shoes i don't slide side-to-side in is pretty tough.
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I fucking hated this shoe. It has a great flick but I got a grade 3 sprain in it on a simple flatground varial heel which cost me almost 5 months of skating. I'm still skating vans and nb212s with flat footprint insoles, wishing for a bearable cupsole.
I did the same thing on a fakie varial heel in a pair of red Tyshawns, i've had two pairs since but won't be skating red ones again lol.
Surprised to see Tyshawns in this thread... they're narrow AF, which i love as i've got skinny feet so finding shoes i don't slide side-to-side in is pretty tough.
There are people that say they have wide feet, then next they recommend Blazers
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The tyshawns skate well for me and have a great sole, I recommend lacing them all the way up it makes a huge difference.
the midfoot is narrow but the arch is nice
my issue is the toe box is just slightly too short so my big toe can bump the front and slightly too rounded on the side of big toe, I want to try a half size up but then I fear my ankle might be slipping which they dont slip much at all for a soft mid
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I fucking hated this shoe. It has a great flick but I got a grade 3 sprain in it on a simple flatground varial heel which cost me almost 5 months of skating. I'm still skating vans and nb212s with flat footprint insoles, wishing for a bearable cupsole.
I did the same thing on a fakie varial heel in a pair of red Tyshawns, i've had two pairs since but won't be skating red ones again lol.
Surprised to see Tyshawns in this thread... they're narrow AF, which i love as i've got skinny feet so finding shoes i don't slide side-to-side in is pretty tough.
Both that (some people will say they have wide feet and they absolutely do not) and people mistaking needing mid-foot width for needing width in the toe box make finding skate shoes incredibly hard on the internet...
It feels like skate shoes have gotten much tighter since I was young, but then I really think about it and realize I had to skate classic half-cabs and classic old skools for most of my teens because shit like Lakai was impossible to even get my foot in. I can't stand the abuse my last two toes go through (causing too many nerve issues) in most skate shoes anymore so I am again stuck with just vans (after they break in, which is an awful process) or new balance vulcs. I agree that the tyshawns were torture chambers for my big feet which I imagine greatly contributed to the bad sprain, since I couldn't flex my forefoot to control my fall. It's a bummer because they look cool
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440 - Grabbed these next. Super bummed these didn't work out because these seems to always get great colorways. They're more squared off so my middle toes are a little more snug than I'd like, but that might work for your foot shape. The killer for me was the built in arch support. It's high. I'm used to minimalist shoes so after even a half hour in these my soles feel like they lost a fight.
Tried a bunch of shit on today, including the Nygel2.0, it it surprisingly OK, lame colorway imo (RWB).
So, I tried the 306s, same result as before, then decided to try on the 440...10 too big, 9.5...we have a winner!
Wide enough to start and not feel pinchy, they'll surely bag out a bit and just right for toe length; to me, the shape is a hybrid between the 255 round/width and the tips are bit more squared off, like tiago (not like the westgates).
(https://i.ibb.co/nfGDW1j/new-balance-numeric-440-white-red-medial-1024x1024-2x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nfGDW1j)
(https://i.ibb.co/x6JB6Kc/unnamed-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x6JB6Kc)
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440 - Grabbed these next. Super bummed these didn't work out because these seems to always get great colorways. They're more squared off so my middle toes are a little more snug than I'd like, but that might work for your foot shape. The killer for me was the built in arch support. It's high. I'm used to minimalist shoes so after even a half hour in these my soles feel like they lost a fight.
Tried a bunch of shit on today, including the Nygel2.0, it it surprisingly OK, lame colorway imo (RWB).
So, I tried the 306s, same result as before, then decided to try on the 44...10 too big, 9.5...we have a winner!
Wide enough to start and not feel pinchy, they'll surely bag out a bit an just right for toe length; to me, the shape is a hybrid between the 255 round/width and th tips are bit more squared off, like tiago (not like the westgates).
(https://i.ibb.co/nfGDW1j/new-balance-numeric-440-white-red-medial-1024x1024-2x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nfGDW1j)
(https://i.ibb.co/x6JB6Kc/unnamed-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x6JB6Kc)
Awesome - how do you like the toebox in comparison to the 1010s? Ive tried these before but never the 1010s, so i'm wondering if one or the other is wider, especially at the ball of the foot and across the pinky toe.
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440 - Grabbed these next. Super bummed these didn't work out because these seems to always get great colorways. They're more squared off so my middle toes are a little more snug than I'd like, but that might work for your foot shape. The killer for me was the built in arch support. It's high. I'm used to minimalist shoes so after even a half hour in these my soles feel like they lost a fight.
Tried a bunch of shit on today, including the Nygel2.0, it it surprisingly OK, lame colorway imo (RWB).
So, I tried the 306s, same result as before, then decided to try on the 44...10 too big, 9.5...we have a winner!
Wide enough to start and not feel pinchy, they'll surely bag out a bit an just right for toe length; to me, the shape is a hybrid between the 255 round/width and th tips are bit more squared off, like tiago (not like the westgates).
(https://i.ibb.co/nfGDW1j/new-balance-numeric-440-white-red-medial-1024x1024-2x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nfGDW1j)
(https://i.ibb.co/x6JB6Kc/unnamed-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x6JB6Kc)
Awesome - how do you like the toebox in comparison to the 1010s? Ive tried these before but never the 1010s, so i'm wondering if one or the other is wider, especially at the ball of the foot and across the pinky toe.
I was hesitant since they are both leather, and specifically that little 'extra' bit of design leather on the 1010 toe cap that covers the big toe, it just made it impossible to flex upward and limited any wiggle room to adjust your toes + there is way more vertical toe room compared to the 1010 on the 440.
These feel wider than the 1010s to me (at least apples to apples of the 9.5 which I had in the 1010).
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I fucking hated this shoe. It has a great flick but I got a grade 3 sprain in it on a simple flatground varial heel which cost me almost 5 months of skating. I'm still skating vans and nb212s with flat footprint insoles, wishing for a bearable cupsole.
I did the same thing on a fakie varial heel in a pair of red Tyshawns, i've had two pairs since but won't be skating red ones again lol.
Surprised to see Tyshawns in this thread... they're narrow AF, which i love as i've got skinny feet so finding shoes i don't slide side-to-side in is pretty tough.
You know the *only* shoe tech that ever stopped the side-to-side slide for me was that Adiprene insole in the Suciu ADV/Superstar ADV Vulc due to it having a ball and socket for your foot type shape - rounded up at the edges, and the texture being non-slip. Good arch shape too.
Don’t know why others haven’t tried, or tried to improve on the concept because I can’t be the only person, slip on my flick side would always end up bagging out the flick area till it became unskateable/unsafe feeling way soon in the wear of the shoe overall.
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440 - Grabbed these next. Super bummed these didn't work out because these seems to always get great colorways. They're more squared off so my middle toes are a little more snug than I'd like, but that might work for your foot shape. The killer for me was the built in arch support. It's high. I'm used to minimalist shoes so after even a half hour in these my soles feel like they lost a fight.
Tried a bunch of shit on today, including the Nygel2.0, it it surprisingly OK, lame colorway imo (RWB).
So, I tried the 306s, same result as before, then decided to try on the 44...10 too big, 9.5...we have a winner!
Wide enough to start and not feel pinchy, they'll surely bag out a bit an just right for toe length; to me, the shape is a hybrid between the 255 round/width and th tips are bit more squared off, like tiago (not like the westgates).
(https://i.ibb.co/nfGDW1j/new-balance-numeric-440-white-red-medial-1024x1024-2x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nfGDW1j)
(https://i.ibb.co/x6JB6Kc/unnamed-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x6JB6Kc)
Awesome - how do you like the toebox in comparison to the 1010s? Ive tried these before but never the 1010s, so i'm wondering if one or the other is wider, especially at the ball of the foot and across the pinky toe.
I was hesitant since they are both leather, and specifically that little 'extra' bit of design leather on the 1010 toe cap that covers the big toe, it just made it impossible to flex upward and limited any wiggle room to adjust your toes + there is way more vertical toe room compared to the 1010 on the 440.
These feel wider than the 1010s to me (at least apples to apples of the 9.5 which I had in the 1010).
Yeah, you convinced me to try the 440s again now. The comparison is very helpful, so thanks for that!
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440 - Grabbed these next. Super bummed these didn't work out because these seems to always get great colorways. They're more squared off so my middle toes are a little more snug than I'd like, but that might work for your foot shape. The killer for me was the built in arch support. It's high. I'm used to minimalist shoes so after even a half hour in these my soles feel like they lost a fight.
Tried a bunch of shit on today, including the Nygel2.0, it it surprisingly OK, lame colorway imo (RWB).
So, I tried the 306s, same result as before, then decided to try on the 44...10 too big, 9.5...we have a winner!
Wide enough to start and not feel pinchy, they'll surely bag out a bit an just right for toe length; to me, the shape is a hybrid between the 255 round/width and th tips are bit more squared off, like tiago (not like the westgates).
(https://i.ibb.co/nfGDW1j/new-balance-numeric-440-white-red-medial-1024x1024-2x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nfGDW1j)
(https://i.ibb.co/x6JB6Kc/unnamed-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x6JB6Kc)
Awesome - how do you like the toebox in comparison to the 1010s? Ive tried these before but never the 1010s, so i'm wondering if one or the other is wider, especially at the ball of the foot and across the pinky toe.
I was hesitant since they are both leather, and specifically that little 'extra' bit of design leather on the 1010 toe cap that covers the big toe, it just made it impossible to flex upward and limited any wiggle room to adjust your toes + there is way more vertical toe room compared to the 1010 on the 440.
These feel wider than the 1010s to me (at least apples to apples of the 9.5 which I had in the 1010).
Yeah, you convinced me to try the 440s again now. The comparison is very helpful, so thanks for that!
I've yet to skate them (will today); but so far, wearing them non-stop around the house since I got them they are getting fatter and fatter (threw in FP insoles and wearing the fattest socks I have to speed the process up); These are much wider than the Rowans and the Force 58s I skated before these. So much so I'm actually wondering if they are going to end up too wide after they are totally mushed out =D
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440 - Grabbed these next. Super bummed these didn't work out because these seems to always get great colorways. They're more squared off so my middle toes are a little more snug than I'd like, but that might work for your foot shape. The killer for me was the built in arch support. It's high. I'm used to minimalist shoes so after even a half hour in these my soles feel like they lost a fight.
Tried a bunch of shit on today, including the Nygel2.0, it it surprisingly OK, lame colorway imo (RWB).
So, I tried the 306s, same result as before, then decided to try on the 440...10 too big, 9.5...we have a winner!
Wide enough to start and not feel pinchy, they'll surely bag out a bit and just right for toe length; to me, the shape is a hybrid between the 255 round/width and the tips are bit more squared off, like tiago (not like the westgates).
(https://i.ibb.co/nfGDW1j/new-balance-numeric-440-white-red-medial-1024x1024-2x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nfGDW1j)
(https://i.ibb.co/x6JB6Kc/unnamed-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x6JB6Kc)
Something felt off about these when i tried them, rolled my ankle first session and just gave them away. Glad they work for you tho, and that's the best colourway I've seen, they look great.
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440 - Grabbed these next. Super bummed these didn't work out because these seems to always get great colorways. They're more squared off so my middle toes are a little more snug than I'd like, but that might work for your foot shape. The killer for me was the built in arch support. It's high. I'm used to minimalist shoes so after even a half hour in these my soles feel like they lost a fight.
Tried a bunch of shit on today, including the Nygel2.0, it it surprisingly OK, lame colorway imo (RWB).
So, I tried the 306s, same result as before, then decided to try on the 44...10 too big, 9.5...we have a winner!
Wide enough to start and not feel pinchy, they'll surely bag out a bit an just right for toe length; to me, the shape is a hybrid between the 255 round/width and th tips are bit more squared off, like tiago (not like the westgates).
(https://i.ibb.co/nfGDW1j/new-balance-numeric-440-white-red-medial-1024x1024-2x.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nfGDW1j)
(https://i.ibb.co/x6JB6Kc/unnamed-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/x6JB6Kc)
Awesome - how do you like the toebox in comparison to the 1010s? Ive tried these before but never the 1010s, so i'm wondering if one or the other is wider, especially at the ball of the foot and across the pinky toe.
I was hesitant since they are both leather, and specifically that little 'extra' bit of design leather on the 1010 toe cap that covers the big toe, it just made it impossible to flex upward and limited any wiggle room to adjust your toes + there is way more vertical toe room compared to the 1010 on the 440.
These feel wider than the 1010s to me (at least apples to apples of the 9.5 which I had in the 1010).
Yeah, you convinced me to try the 440s again now. The comparison is very helpful, so thanks for that!
I've yet to skate them (will today); but so far, wearing them non-stop around the house since I got them they are getting fatter and fatter (threw in FP insoles and wearing the fattest socks I have to speed the process up); These are much wider than the Rowans and the Force 58s I skated before these. So much so I'm actually wondering if they are going to end up too wide after they are totally mushed out =D
The only thing stopping me from buying the highs this last time I tried them on was thinking "god I don't want to try to break in shoes with a toe cap" so it's exciting to hear they break in nicely. Definitely gonna grab a pair, my feet could use a break from vulcs
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Had to put the stock insoles in as I was getting a little heel slip due to my foot being so high off the bed of the shoe in the heel area. Might have to snag some of those 3mm footprints as the ortholites in the NB are straight up generic flat insoles.
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Xen, those reeboks (I think?) are sick. Kind of bummed I grabbed lems for deadlifting instead of those. Wish we could get a skate shoe in that shape with more cushion.
Update on the Globe Mahalo Plus - surprisingly not bad. Pretty sturdy underneath for a vulc, but also nice and flexible for pretty 360 flips and transition. The vulc sides don't compress my toes anywhere near as bad as many other shoes, though I think the Rowans are still wider at the pinky toe.
@fakie varial flip
They're on sale over at Reebok:
https://www.reebok.com/us/reebok-power-lite-mid-men's-training-shoes/G55580.html
A ref link if it works:
https://refer.reebok.com/TIM06838397
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Xen, those reeboks (I think?) are sick. Kind of bummed I grabbed lems for deadlifting instead of those. Wish we could get a skate shoe in that shape with more cushion.
Update on the Globe Mahalo Plus - surprisingly not bad. Pretty sturdy underneath for a vulc, but also nice and flexible for pretty 360 flips and transition. The vulc sides don't compress my toes anywhere near as bad as many other shoes, though I think the Rowans are still wider at the pinky toe.
@fakie varial flip
They're on sale over at Reebok:
https://www.reebok.com/us/reebok-power-lite-mid-men's-training-shoes/G55580.html
A ref link if it works:
https://refer.reebok.com/TIM06838397
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How are those 440s working out? I'm dangerously close to buying them.
I've put those 3mm flat insoles in some emericas before and was pretty satisfied with their performance. I still have them in a pair of work boots ha
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Xen, those reeboks (I think?) are sick. Kind of bummed I grabbed lems for deadlifting instead of those. Wish we could get a skate shoe in that shape with more cushion.
Update on the Globe Mahalo Plus - surprisingly not bad. Pretty sturdy underneath for a vulc, but also nice and flexible for pretty 360 flips and transition. The vulc sides don't compress my toes anywhere near as bad as many other shoes, though I think the Rowans are still wider at the pinky toe.
@fakie varial flip
They're on sale over at Reebok:
https://www.reebok.com/us/reebok-power-lite-mid-men's-training-shoes/G55580.html
A ref link if it works:
https://refer.reebok.com/TIM06838397
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How are those 440s working out? I'm dangerously close to buying them.
I've put those 3mm flat insoles in some emericas before and was pretty satisfied with their performance. I still have them in a pair of work boots ha
BTW that refferal code is %20 off, might or might not stack.
Really liking the 440s. Don't think I need to switch to another shoe, unless they make a 440 mid.
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Agreed that Adidas are way too pointy. To me this thread is more skate shoes that are closest to resembling barefoot/minimalist shape. I had my first session in the NB# 272. It has a pretty wide toebox, same shape as the 288S. The nice thing about that shape is it doesn't push the big toes in much. The 272 has a bit of a heel lift, but I combatted that by combining a thicker insole in the front, thinner in the back (taped together). I currently like it more than the 212 since I need a bit thicker sole than what the 212 has.
This shit pisses me off. I LOVE lifestyle Adidas. I have a couple pairs of Kaptirs that fit like a fucking dream, nice and wide.
Then they go and make all of their skate shoes narrow as fuck.
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The tyshawns skate well for me and have a great sole, I recommend lacing them all the way up it makes a huge difference.
the midfoot is narrow but the arch is nice
my issue is the toe box is just slightly too short so my big toe can bump the front and slightly too rounded on the side of big toe, I want to try a half size up but then I fear my ankle might be slipping which they dont slip much at all for a soft mid
I am skating them right now. They felt alright when I tried them on. They were a bit tight on my toes, but they felt great otherwise. I thought that they would be perfect once broken in. They did not get much wider even after skating them for a good month. While this shows the quality of the shoe it does not really help my toes which will hurt after a longer session...
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I can vouch that the Tyshawn Lows are great for my insanely wide feet, but the mids are pointy and cramped like everyone else is saying. So if you really wanna make the Tyshawns work, the lows are worth seeking out.
Breaking in two pairs of Fastbreaks right now and are so suprised by how nice they fit, almost every shoe I buy feels painfully cramped until I mush them out after a week of wear, but the Fastbreaks feel wide enough straight out the box.
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How wide are the dc Manteca or the emerica gamma G6? Has anyone ever tried them on? The look wide on photos.
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Any new prospects on the wide shoe market? Experiencing some foot problems lately so would be interested if anyone has some new findings
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Fallen Patriots and Etnies Barge LS I've gotten recently are both very comfortable in the toebox, and I'm pretty particular about that shit.
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Got some KSL's and they feel plenty roomy. Haven't had a chance to skate em yet, as I'm finishing off a pair of 440's that just hug my whole foot entirely too much.
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Got some KSL's and they feel plenty roomy. Haven't had a chance to skate em yet, as I'm finishing off a pair of 440's that just hug my whole foot entirely too much.
I went from 440 to KSLs and have had no issues at all; the KSL are plenty roomy without being boxy. It's an old school fit.
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Yeah, I noticed the bottom of the soles on the KSLs are smaller than the soles on some of my other shoes, but the sides of the soles get wider as they come up. They fit great on wider feet.
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Has anyone had any luck with any Lakai models? Prefer cupsoles.
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Has anyone had any luck with any Lakai models? Prefer cupsoles.
I found the Carroll xlks to be wider fitting compared to other lakai models. Kinda snug but roomy enough
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I'm pretty into the wide toe box / barefoot shoe thing and the New Balance 272 has been the best skate shoe for that vibe for me. The toe box is nice and wide and the arch support minimal. The heel is slightly raised, but these are only skate shoes that leave my feet feeling normal after a session. I think they're also slightly longer than some of the other numeric models so that might be part of it. They have plenty of protection too. I've landed primo a number of times and have gotten away with it every time.
Here's a pic of the other NBs I've tried and a few shoes popular in the wide toe box world. I'm a size 12 so here's a summary of how the others felt compared to the 272s.
255 - Started here. These felt pretty nice but something about how they placed the laces leads to me ripping one basically every session.
440 - Grabbed these next. Super bummed these didn't work out because these seems to always get great colorways. They're more squared off so my middle toes are a little more snug than I'd like, but that might work for your foot shape. The killer for me was the built in arch support. It's high. I'm used to minimalist shoes so after even a half hour in these my soles feel like they lost a fight.
306L - I was excited to try these after burning through laces in 255s. They were great for a while but the elastic on my flick foot gave out and now it's pretty floppy. They are a little narrower than the 272s.
I really appreciate the variety of sizes and shapes New Balance offers. It can make finding your fit an expensive hassle, especially when they don't even have a dealer locator for their Numeric line on their website, but it's nice that they seem to offer something for everyone.
(https://i.ibb.co/7SDwFzg/96-EFBFFC-345-C-4-EAF-8-C96-871-CBAF3-B679.jpg)
Hold up... The top two shoes in the photo, what are those? (Not NBs I bet...) Those look like they have actual width in the toe box all the way out to the end. The white canvas ones look especially comfy.
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I'm pretty into the wide toe box / barefoot shoe thing and the New Balance 272 has been the best skate shoe for that vibe for me. The toe box is nice and wide and the arch support minimal. The heel is slightly raised, but these are only skate shoes that leave my feet feeling normal after a session. I think they're also slightly longer than some of the other numeric models so that might be part of it. They have plenty of protection too. I've landed primo a number of times and have gotten away with it every time.
Here's a pic of the other NBs I've tried and a few shoes popular in the wide toe box world. I'm a size 12 so here's a summary of how the others felt compared to the 272s.
255 - Started here. These felt pretty nice but something about how they placed the laces leads to me ripping one basically every session.
440 - Grabbed these next. Super bummed these didn't work out because these seems to always get great colorways. They're more squared off so my middle toes are a little more snug than I'd like, but that might work for your foot shape. The killer for me was the built in arch support. It's high. I'm used to minimalist shoes so after even a half hour in these my soles feel like they lost a fight.
306L - I was excited to try these after burning through laces in 255s. They were great for a while but the elastic on my flick foot gave out and now it's pretty floppy. They are a little narrower than the 272s.
I really appreciate the variety of sizes and shapes New Balance offers. It can make finding your fit an expensive hassle, especially when they don't even have a dealer locator for their Numeric line on their website, but it's nice that they seem to offer something for everyone.
(https://i.ibb.co/7SDwFzg/96-EFBFFC-345-C-4-EAF-8-C96-871-CBAF3-B679.jpg)
kinda looks like Xero shoes. zero drop minimalist shoe.
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I'm pretty into the wide toe box / barefoot shoe thing and the New Balance 272 has been the best skate shoe for that vibe for me. The toe box is nice and wide and the arch support minimal. The heel is slightly raised, but these are only skate shoes that leave my feet feeling normal after a session. I think they're also slightly longer than some of the other numeric models so that might be part of it. They have plenty of protection too. I've landed primo a number of times and have gotten away with it every time.
Here's a pic of the other NBs I've tried and a few shoes popular in the wide toe box world. I'm a size 12 so here's a summary of how the others felt compared to the 272s.
255 - Started here. These felt pretty nice but something about how they placed the laces leads to me ripping one basically every session.
440 - Grabbed these next. Super bummed these didn't work out because these seems to always get great colorways. They're more squared off so my middle toes are a little more snug than I'd like, but that might work for your foot shape. The killer for me was the built in arch support. It's high. I'm used to minimalist shoes so after even a half hour in these my soles feel like they lost a fight.
306L - I was excited to try these after burning through laces in 255s. They were great for a while but the elastic on my flick foot gave out and now it's pretty floppy. They are a little narrower than the 272s.
I really appreciate the variety of sizes and shapes New Balance offers. It can make finding your fit an expensive hassle, especially when they don't even have a dealer locator for their Numeric line on their website, but it's nice that they seem to offer something for everyone.
(https://i.ibb.co/7SDwFzg/96-EFBFFC-345-C-4-EAF-8-C96-871-CBAF3-B679.jpg)
Barefoot running shoes. I actually used to wear the NB minimus ones during the summers because they're ultralight and breathable - think water shoes with a much better sole and support. I wouldn't attempt skating one though, you'd tear through them in minutes.
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Got some KSL's and they feel plenty roomy. Haven't had a chance to skate em yet, as I'm finishing off a pair of 440's that just hug my whole foot entirely too much.
I went from 440 to KSLs and have had no issues at all; the KSL are plenty roomy without being boxy. It's an old school fit.
Wow, this was not my experience at all. I wear a lot of Emericas and the KSL was cut in a bit on the toe box and crushed my big toe.
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Got some KSL's and they feel plenty roomy. Haven't had a chance to skate em yet, as I'm finishing off a pair of 440's that just hug my whole foot entirely too much.
I went from 440 to KSLs and have had no issues at all; the KSL are plenty roomy without being boxy. It's an old school fit.
Wow, this was not my experience at all. I wear a lot of Emericas and the KSL was cut in a bit on the toe box and crushed my big toe.
Interesting, I also have a pair of Dicksons and lo vulcs, both of which are tighter than the KSL. I think the only other shoe I have as roomy as the KSL is the Accel og.
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Got some KSL's and they feel plenty roomy. Haven't had a chance to skate em yet, as I'm finishing off a pair of 440's that just hug my whole foot entirely too much.
I went from 440 to KSLs and have had no issues at all; the KSL are plenty roomy without being boxy. It's an old school fit.
Wow, this was not my experience at all. I wear a lot of Emericas and the KSL was cut in a bit on the toe box and crushed my big toe.
Interesting, I also have a pair of Dicksons and lo vulcs, both of which are tighter than the KSL. I think the only other shoe I have as roomy as the KSL is the Accel og.
So funny how foot shape can matter. I love my Dicksons.
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Got some KSL's and they feel plenty roomy. Haven't had a chance to skate em yet, as I'm finishing off a pair of 440's that just hug my whole foot entirely too much.
I went from 440 to KSLs and have had no issues at all; the KSL are plenty roomy without being boxy. It's an old school fit.
Wow, this was not my experience at all. I wear a lot of Emericas and the KSL was cut in a bit on the toe box and crushed my big toe.
Interesting, I also have a pair of Dicksons and lo vulcs, both of which are tighter than the KSL. I think the only other shoe I have as roomy as the KSL is the Accel og.
That's why a wide toe box means different things to different people =D
Yes, they are 'pointy' but I can let them side because they are wide at the metatarsal area where I need width (still part of the toebox).
Plenty on here have wide midfoot and think a wide toe box is the answer because they have 'wide feet'.
The best shoe was the DC Even Smith. Perfection.
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Got some KSL's and they feel plenty roomy. Haven't had a chance to skate em yet, as I'm finishing off a pair of 440's that just hug my whole foot entirely too much.
I went from 440 to KSLs and have had no issues at all; the KSL are plenty roomy without being boxy. It's an old school fit.
Wow, this was not my experience at all. I wear a lot of Emericas and the KSL was cut in a bit on the toe box and crushed my big toe.
Interesting, I also have a pair of Dicksons and lo vulcs, both of which are tighter than the KSL. I think the only other shoe I have as roomy as the KSL is the Accel og.
That's why a wide toe box means different things to different people =D
Yes, they are 'pointy' but I can let them side because they are wide at the metatarsal area where I need width (still part of the toebox).
Plenty on here have wide midfoot and think a wide toe box is the answer because they have 'wide feet'.
The best shoe was the DC Even Smith. Perfection.
Yup, that is the same area where I need the width. I've had pretty good luck with Etnies Joslins as well with a little help from a shoe stretcher.
I'm really interested to see if the Creager re-release will fit like the original or be slimmed down.
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Mentioned a few posts back but the NB#440 is a great fitting shoe, nice and wide and not pointy. Stock, They hurt my arches tho (all NB do); I had to size down 1/2 a size.
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Got some KSL's and they feel plenty roomy. Haven't had a chance to skate em yet, as I'm finishing off a pair of 440's that just hug my whole foot entirely too much.
I went from 440 to KSLs and have had no issues at all; the KSL are plenty roomy without being boxy. It's an old school fit.
Wow, this was not my experience at all. I wear a lot of Emericas and the KSL was cut in a bit on the toe box and crushed my big toe.
Interesting, I also have a pair of Dicksons and lo vulcs, both of which are tighter than the KSL. I think the only other shoe I have as roomy as the KSL is the Accel og.
That's why a wide toe box means different things to different people =D
Yes, they are 'pointy' but I can let them side because they are wide at the metatarsal area where I need width (still part of the toebox).
Plenty on here have wide midfoot and think a wide toe box is the answer because they have 'wide feet'.
The best shoe was the DC Even Smith. Perfection.
For sure where I need it too, but the narrowing of the toe box on those was a deal breaker.
I’ve heard a lot of good things about the 440 but doesn’t look like they make it in size 14 :(
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Bumping this to see if anyone has any good finds lately. I had a few people teel me the Crockett highs were wide, so I'm going to try a pair and see how they work out.
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For me it's been the Adidas Tyshawn (mids); I tried a pair ages ago in my size (10) but they were too big. Seeing a post on SLAP about going a half size up had me curious so I found a 10.5 locally and they fit perfectly and feel great. Bonus that they come in a mid!
They're holding up like any other skate shoe so I'll skate them as long as they make them just to take a piece of gear out of the madness equation. I wouldn't say they are the WIDEST you can get but they fit me well enough.
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For me it's been the Adidas Tyshawn (mids); I tried a pair ages ago in my size (10) but they were too big. Seeing a post on SLAP about going a half size up had me curious so I found a 10.5 locally and they fit perfectly and feel great. Bonus that they come in a mid!
They're holding up like any other skate shoe so I'll skate them as long as they make them just to take a piece of gear out of the madness equation. I wouldn't say they are the WIDEST you can get but they fit me well enough.
FYI it looks like they have some colorways of these on the Adidas site for $49.
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For me it's been the Adidas Tyshawn (mids); I tried a pair ages ago in my size (10) but they were too big. Seeing a post on SLAP about going a half size up had me curious so I found a 10.5 locally and they fit perfectly and feel great. Bonus that they come in a mid!
They're holding up like any other skate shoe so I'll skate them as long as they make them just to take a piece of gear out of the madness equation. I wouldn't say they are the WIDEST you can get but they fit me well enough.
FYI it looks like they have some colorways of these on the Adidas site for $49.
For those that haven't seen it in the separate sale thread you can get an additional 40% off if you buy Tyshawns at Adidas's eBay store using the code on the product page: https://www.ebay.com/itm/155226381373?hash=item2424369c3d:g:7XcAAOSwHwdja-vr. Got a pair for $31.97 all-in shipped.
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I'm pretty into the wide toe box / barefoot shoe thing and the New Balance 272 has been the best skate shoe for that vibe for me. The toe box is nice and wide and the arch support minimal. The heel is slightly raised, but these are only skate shoes that leave my feet feeling normal after a session. I think they're also slightly longer than some of the other numeric models so that might be part of it. They have plenty of protection too. I've landed primo a number of times and have gotten away with it every time.
Here's a pic of the other NBs I've tried and a few shoes popular in the wide toe box world. I'm a size 12 so here's a summary of how the others felt compared to the 272s.
255 - Started here. These felt pretty nice but something about how they placed the laces leads to me ripping one basically every session.
440 - Grabbed these next. Super bummed these didn't work out because these seems to always get great colorways. They're more squared off so my middle toes are a little more snug than I'd like, but that might work for your foot shape. The killer for me was the built in arch support. It's high. I'm used to minimalist shoes so after even a half hour in these my soles feel like they lost a fight.
306L - I was excited to try these after burning through laces in 255s. They were great for a while but the elastic on my flick foot gave out and now it's pretty floppy. They are a little narrower than the 272s.
I really appreciate the variety of sizes and shapes New Balance offers. It can make finding your fit an expensive hassle, especially when they don't even have a dealer locator for their Numeric line on their website, but it's nice that they seem to offer something for everyone.
(https://i.ibb.co/7SDwFzg/96-EFBFFC-345-C-4-EAF-8-C96-871-CBAF3-B679.jpg)
440's are pan flat with no built in arch support. I have flat feet and feel nothing and just checked.
I did find the 272 longer and lots of heel slip, but it was a leather model so maybe the stiffness contributed a bit
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Bumping this to see if anyone has any good finds lately. I had a few people teel me the Crockett highs were wide, so I'm going to try a pair and see how they work out.
The Vans SKATE Half Cab '92 is very comfortable on my wide feet.
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Bumping this to see if anyone has any good finds lately. I had a few people teel me the Crockett highs were wide, so I'm going to try a pair and see how they work out.
I’m size 13 and wide enough that most shoes are too tight. I find the Kyle Walker Pro 2 and Rowan fit reasonably comfortably. Prefer KWP2s but they retail for $200 AUD. I only buy them when on sale. I don’t care for the additional height in the ankle of the Rowan. Have generally been lucky enough to pick up either shoe on sale. I was told by a vans retail staff member that certain shoes come in a variety of widths in the states. Haven’t fact checked it though.
The Vans SKATE Half Cab '92 is very comfortable on my wide feet.
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@Xen, how do the Tyshawns fit compared to the KSLs?
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I still stand by my Fallen Patriots. Very comfortable, I have a backup pair and would buy more.
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@Xen, how do the Tyshawns fit compared to the KSLs?
@Thebird besides needing to go a half size up, they are much better around the toes (the KSLs, while wide, did have a slightly pointer toe box); the overall fit of the shoe with the tys is lightyears ahead; it's much more form fitting, especially in the heel and mid foot, slightly more arch and way more comfortable. It's as if the tys are a 'tailored shoe' and KSLs are 'off the rack'.
My-Tys are mids but feel less bulky. Grip is better on the KSLs by a bit but that might be me as I've always felt Adidas weren't as grippy as they should be.
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Thanks for the detailed description. Appreciate the feedback, I may have to try a pair.
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Not sure if it's the widest per se, but Es Silo SC and Accel OG are both pretty wide/spacious in the toebox.
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@Xen, how do the Tyshawns fit compared to the KSLs?
@Thebird besides needing to go a half size up, they are much better around the toes (the KSLs, while wide, did have a slightly pointer toe box); the overall fit of the shoe with the tys is lightyears ahead; it's much more form fitting, especially in the heel and mid foot, slightly more arch and way more comfortable. It's as if the tys are a 'tailored shoe' and KSLs are 'off the rack'.
My-Tys are mids but feel less bulky. Grip is better on the KSLs by a bit but that might be me as I've always felt Adidas weren't as grippy as they should be.
This is the best description I've read regarding my experience with with KSL and Tyshawns. I haven't skated the Tyshawns, but just trying them on they felt great. My feet swim in the KSL width-wise and also feel a lot lower or deeper "in" the shoe if that makes any sense. So far the KSLs skate great - I'm two sessions in and there's been minimal break-in necessary. I hope they don't bag out too much.
Will have to keep an eye out for a deal on the Tyshawns.
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@Xen, how do the Tyshawns fit compared to the KSLs?
@Thebird besides needing to go a half size up, they are much better around the toes (the KSLs, while wide, did have a slightly pointer toe box); the overall fit of the shoe with the tys is lightyears ahead; it's much more form fitting, especially in the heel and mid foot, slightly more arch and way more comfortable. It's as if the tys are a 'tailored shoe' and KSLs are 'off the rack'.
My-Tys are mids but feel less bulky. Grip is better on the KSLs by a bit but that might be me as I've always felt Adidas weren't as grippy as they should be.
This is the best description I've read regarding my experience with with KSL and Tyshawns. I haven't skated the Tyshawns, but just trying them on they felt great. My feet swim in the KSL width-wise and also feel a lot lower or deeper "in" the shoe if that makes any sense. So far the KSLs skate great - I'm two sessions in and there's been minimal break-in necessary. I hope they don't bag out too much.
Will have to keep an eye out for a deal on the Tyshawns.
Adidas is selling Tyshawn and other models on eBay at a 40% of rate. Tyshawns were going for $30 after the deal but I think they're $54 now after the deal. Peep the Sale Gear thread for details.
On the KSL, I disagree with the "off the rack" comment, as they feel like a modern fitting shoe to me but with more width in the instep/arch area compared to Adidas, which are usually pretty narrow/high arch (which regularly hasn't worked for me from my experience).
That said, they're a great shoe and I'm skating them [KSL] right now. I wanted to like my Tyshawns but the fit was mid for me. I felt like the Tyshawn had a narrow and shallow toe box in the leather pair i used to have. The mid foot did feel a bit too snug for me. Maybe if I had sized 0.5 that wouldn't have been an issue, but who knows.
I'm tempted to try again with that ebay deal on the Tyshawns and see if my opinion changes
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@Xen, how do the Tyshawns fit compared to the KSLs?
@Thebird besides needing to go a half size up, they are much better around the toes (the KSLs, while wide, did have a slightly pointer toe box); the overall fit of the shoe with the tys is lightyears ahead; it's much more form fitting, especially in the heel and mid foot, slightly more arch and way more comfortable. It's as if the tys are a 'tailored shoe' and KSLs are 'off the rack'.
My-Tys are mids but feel less bulky. Grip is better on the KSLs by a bit but that might be me as I've always felt Adidas weren't as grippy as they should be.
This is the best description I've read regarding my experience with with KSL and Tyshawns. I haven't skated the Tyshawns, but just trying them on they felt great. My feet swim in the KSL width-wise and also feel a lot lower or deeper "in" the shoe if that makes any sense. So far the KSLs skate great - I'm two sessions in and there's been minimal break-in necessary. I hope they don't bag out too much.
Will have to keep an eye out for a deal on the Tyshawns.
Adidas is selling Tyshawn and other models on eBay at a 40% of rate. Tyshawns were going for $30 after the deal but I think they're $54 now after the deal. Peep the Sale Gear thread for details.
On the KSL, I disagree with the "off the rack" comment, as they feel like a modern fitting shoe to me but with more width in the instep/arch area compared to Adidas, which are usually pretty narrow/high arch (which regularly hasn't worked for me from my experience).
That said, they're a great shoe and I'm skating them [KSL] right now. I wanted to like my Tyshawns but the fit was mid for me. I felt like the Tyshawn had a narrow and shallow toe box in the leather pair i used to have. The mid foot did feel a bit too snug for me. Maybe if I had sized 0.5 that wouldn't have been an issue, but who knows.
I'm tempted to try again with that ebay deal on the Tyshawns and see if my opinion changes
Yeah, I saw that Adidas official E-bay deal in the sale thread a few days ago, nevertheless, good looking out. Unfortunately I'm not based in the US so the exchange rate, shipping, and/or customs/duties would negate the savings.
Also, when I was back home far prior to the pandemic and tried to order domestically from the Adidas E-bay vendor they were terrible with respect to customer service (order receipt contact, order status, etc.) and transparency so that experience really turned me off to them. In the end I had to cancel the order. I wouldn't want to roll the dice and attempt to get them to ship internationally.
I've only tried on a suede pair of Tyshawns, so I don't have any frame of reference with respect to the leather model, but in my experience with other leather kicks you're right.
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Mentioned a few posts back but the NB#440 is a great fitting shoe, nice and wide and not pointy. Stock, They hurt my arches tho (all NB do); I had to size down 1/2 a size.
My experience is 440s definitely not that wide. The toebox is ok, but around the middle of the arch the shoe compresses my foot's sides like crazy. My midfoot is slimmer and gets wider towards forefoot. Also the heelcup is not that wide in 440s and I can feel compression on the sides of my heel as well. I trusted reviews saying that the shoes fit wide feet and was vastly disappointed finding they're narrower. But yeah, feet are very different, mine are weird.
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Mentioned a few posts back but the NB#440 is a great fitting shoe, nice and wide and not pointy. Stock, They hurt my arches tho (all NB do); I had to size down 1/2 a size.
My experience is 440s definitely not that wide. The toebox is ok, but around the middle of the arch the shoe compresses my foot's sides like crazy. My midfoot is slimmer and gets wider towards forefoot. Also the heelcup is not that wide in 440s and I can feel compression on the sides of my heel as well. I trusted reviews saying that the shoes fit wide feet and was vastly disappointed finding they're narrower. But yeah, feet are very different, mine are weird.
IDK how legit this guy is, but I found him while perusing Youtube. He's apparently a podiatrist, and gives advice on how to size, and find shoe shapes that will at least fit the overall "footprints" of our foot shape even buying online.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqn8k3tVl6c
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I have an actual measured D/E width foot and very low volume feet. 440 fits me great. You might need something with more midfoot volume but it's general shape and all NB I've owned have been to be really snug in the midfoot.
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How much space do you guys typically look for between the end of your toes and the end of a shoe you are going to skate? This is where I run into trouble - I'll find something in a comfortable width, but it just feels too long.
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Back when I went to the guy who made my orthopedics, he said a good space to have between your toe and the tip of the shoe is a thumbs width (not the knuckle, the tip of the your thumb widthwise), assuming you dont have sausage fingers 😅
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Just ordered some Tyshawns. Fingers crossed. The search for the perfect fitting shoe continues.......
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Just ordered some Tyshawns. Fingers crossed. The search for the perfect fitting shoe continues.......
It's the perfect fit for me, amazingly comfortable shoe (skating or no) because it's shaped like my foot. I'm waiting on a good colorway to nab some for chillers. I do use aftermarket insoles for better arch support; currently using the superfeet oranges.
The collar padding is chef's kiss good.
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Picked up some 440 highs as well. I've had a pair of the lows which I felt were a little too snug, but these definitely fit great.
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@Xen, how much do the Tyshawns stretch? Just got a pair of leather mids, they feel a little snug.
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@Xen, how much do the Tyshawns stretch? Just got a pair of leather mids, they feel a little snug.
Did you get TTS? I went a half size up and didn't need to worry about break in at all (in suede btw).
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I got tts. The length feels good, just a little snug where the bottom lace is. At $40, I'm gonna try to break them in and see what happens. They definitely feel like a quality shoe.
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Zoomz has some 440s on the cheap.
https://www.zumiez.com/collections/cyber-monday-sales/cyber-monday-shoes.html?brand=New+Balance&en_gender_styles=Men%27s&size=10
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Picked up some Emerica Quentins over the weekend. They are fairly wide. Not quite as roomy as the KSL, but they do have a similar shape. Very basic shoe. I'll definitely be swapping the insoles.
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After trying on literally dozens of shoes looking for ones that fit my relatively wide feed, I've settled on the following quiver of shoes that feel comfortable on my feet: Accel Slims half-size up; Lakai Cambridges TTS; Emerica Quentin G6s TTS; Vans Half Cabs in half size up; and Vans Rowans in half size up.
I thought I liked Adidas Tyshawns (suede) in a full size up, but later realized that they were actually too big. So I got Adidas Tyshawns in a half size up (but in leather) and they were too tight at the top of the toe box. Maybe someday I'll try a half size up in suede (instead of leather) and maybe those will fit better, but I think I'm good for now on shoes.
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Mentioned a few posts back but the NB#440 is a great fitting shoe, nice and wide and not pointy. Stock, They hurt my arches tho (all NB do); I had to size down 1/2 a size.
My experience is 440s definitely not that wide. The toebox is ok, but around the middle of the arch the shoe compresses my foot's sides like crazy. My midfoot is slimmer and gets wider towards forefoot. Also the heelcup is not that wide in 440s and I can feel compression on the sides of my heel as well. I trusted reviews saying that the shoes fit wide feet and was vastly disappointed finding they're narrower. But yeah, feet are very different, mine are weird.
IDK how legit this guy is, but I found him while perusing Youtube. He's apparently a podiatrist, and gives advice on how to size, and find shoe shapes that will at least fit the overall "footprints" of our foot shape even buying online.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqn8k3tVl6c
I watched this, and the silhouette of shoe shape idea made sense, so i did one. I have a c shaped foot, which now explains why i liked the DC Evan Smiths (not the manual) so much, my Merrell barefoot shoes, the NB Minimus and why i cant wear nike blazers or vans old skools. I now need to find some C shaped skate kicks.
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They are an absolute snowboard boot but the ‘es silo eco fit my D with, narrow heel, high arch and short toes really well. True to size too. Definitely not an out of box skater but I’ve learned to enjoy not numb toes over boards feel in my later years
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Just got some Emerica og1s. Definitely some of the widest shoes I have had. I possibly could have gone down half a size.
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@Xen, how much do the Tyshawns stretch? Just got a pair of leather mids, they feel a little snug.
They definitely fit a little too snug but not enough where I would order a size up. They stretch out a little bit after you have them on for awhile
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The adidas forums have a pretty wide toe box. They last forever too, they’re like tanks
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Ok everyone, I've been doing a TOOOON of research into this. I come from a minimal shoe with wide toe box background. I've been searching for shoes that have a wide toe box (like, ACTUALLY wide which lets your toes splay) that would at the same time be suitable for skateboarding. I've come up with the following options:
1. SOM Footwear Trailhead OR SOM Footwear HiLite - https://www.somfootwear.com/products/trailhead
These shoes seem to be the most promising. The 8mm cup sole is thin enough that you'll get good board feel, while being polyurethane material (which is lighter and more durable than vulcanized rubber) that according to SOM has "excellent grip on rocks." This could translate to good grip on griptape as well. The insole of the shoe has a cup sole. Another really cool thing about the shoe is that the uppers are made out of SuperFabric, which apparently is designed to be pretty tough. And finally, SOM does offer neoprene flat inserts (about 14 bucks) which apparently "keeps its thickness and shape even during strenous activities such as running or jumping." Extra cushion never hurts, and this all makes SOM seem like a pretty good option. Finally finally, I did actually reach out to SOM Footwear and they said their customers who skateboard choose the Trailhead or HiLite, which is why I included both. The bulk of my research was on the Trailhead, but I'm throwing the HiLite in there for anyone who may be looking for the same materials of the Trailhead in a high-top option.
2. Icarus Ascent - https://icarusfootwear.com/products/first-flight
I found about these guys from the /r/barefootrunning sub on Reddit, and the owner was doing an AMA. I noticed in the description of the shoes, it comes with three different insoles. One of the insoles is a "Thick Max-Energy insoles (Cushioned heel; 5-11mm thick)," which "offer maximum impact absorption to protect your heel from repeated impacts on modern surfaces like concrete and asphalt. Great for long days in the urban jungle, skateboarding, or if your feet aren't ready for "barefoot" levels of support." I asked the owner about using the shoes in conjunction with their thickest insole for skateboarding, to which the owner said it would be a good idea. These shoes look pretty nice too, tho I'd probably use them for just cruising as opposed to doing tricks, for fear of messing with the white leather upper. Of course everyone else is different.
3. Flux Footwear Adapt High Top with Graphene - https://fluxfootwear.com/products/flux-high-top-graphene-adapt
This seems like a very durable shoe, from the ripstop fabric upper to the graphene rubber sole. It seems like this shoe would do very well with abrasion, and the sole seems flexible enough to bend with the movement of skateboarding. I reached out to the Flux Footwear people to see if they've been tested for skateboarding, to which they said not yet, but that they'll be hoping to do something like that soon. All in all, with a decent stack height these shoes might not be bad for skateboarding.
4. Adidas The Total Trainer - https://www.adidas.com/us/the-total-shoes/HQ3533.html
I like the look of these but not 100% sure how well they'd fare for doing tricks or much beyond cruising. They are weightlifting shoes which seem geared at keeping the foot in a stable position, so the sole may not be flexible or be well-suited to skating. Just thought I'd throw this out there as the sole and uppers do seem durable enough for a skate shoe, and the toe box of course is wide enough.
5. Splay Freestyle - https://splayshoes.com/collections/freestyle/products/splay-freestyle-coal-shoes
These have been mentioned before, but I thought it worth mentioning again to those who just stumbled upon this thread. The colorway I linked is the most Vans-esque, tho they also do have slip-on versions of their shoes if you really wanna get that yung Vans vibe. These do have a vulcanized rubber sole, and after doing some digging through Splay's instagram a decent amount of their customers do actually use this shoe for skating. Shoe goo or the like is a must for the upper, but the sole seems durable enough, and it absolutely is flexible as well. Have a pair of these myself, they're mad comfy, just haven't taken the plunge in skating with them yet.
6. Xero Prio - https://xeroshoes.com/shop/activity/performance/prio-men/
Braille Skateboarding actually did a video review of skating with these shoes, and you guys can find the link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yup7RJDJk_c. I actually have a pair of these myself, and with how thin they are I'm surprised they managed to do so well skating with them (save for a few bad landings). Of course, the uppers already had holes in them by the time the video was over, but this could be addressed with something like shoe goo. This video was my lightbulb moment as I had been searching for ages for video evidence of people not just cruising but doing tricks with barefoot shoes. This video proves it's possible with the sole, but not so much with the uppers. Many have suggested Xero's Kelso as another good alternative as well, which I'll link below:
7. Xero Kelso - https://xeroshoes.com/shop/shoes/kelso-men/
What separates the Kelso from the Prio is the 6.0mm FeelTrue sole compared to the Prio's 5.5mm. As well, the uppers of the Kelso are a combination of full grain leather and suede. Not to mention, they look pretty badass as well.
I've definitely been meaning to cop at least one of these shoes (besides the Prio which I already have). If I ever do get one of these (or test out my Splay's cruising and doing tricks), I'll be sure to let you guys know.
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Ok everyone, I've been doing a TOOOON of research into this. I come from a minimal shoe with wide toe box background. I've been searching for shoes that have a wide toe box (like, ACTUALLY wide which lets your toes splay) that would at the same time be suitable for skateboarding. I've come up with the following options:
1. SOM Footwear Trailhead OR SOM Footwear HiLite - https://www.somfootwear.com/products/trailhead
These shoes seem to be the most promising. The 8mm cup sole is thin enough that you'll get good board feel, while being polyurethane material (which is lighter and more durable than vulcanized rubber) that according to SOM has "excellent grip on rocks." This could translate to good grip on griptape as well. The insole of the shoe has a cup sole. Another really cool thing about the shoe is that the uppers are made out of SuperFabric, which apparently is designed to be pretty tough. And finally, SOM does offer neoprene flat inserts (about 14 bucks) which apparently "keeps its thickness and shape even during strenous activities such as running or jumping." Extra cushion never hurts, and this all makes SOM seem like a pretty good option. Finally finally, I did actually reach out to SOM Footwear and they said their customers who skateboard choose the Trailhead or HiLite, which is why I included both. The bulk of my research was on the Trailhead, but I'm throwing the HiLite in there for anyone who may be looking for the same materials of the Trailhead in a high-top option.
2. Icarus Ascent - https://icarusfootwear.com/products/first-flight
I found about these guys from the /r/barefootrunning sub on Reddit, and the owner was doing an AMA. I noticed in the description of the shoes, it comes with three different insoles. One of the insoles is a "Thick Max-Energy insoles (Cushioned heel; 5-11mm thick)," which "offer maximum impact absorption to protect your heel from repeated impacts on modern surfaces like concrete and asphalt. Great for long days in the urban jungle, skateboarding, or if your feet aren't ready for "barefoot" levels of support." I asked the owner about using the shoes in conjunction with their thickest insole for skateboarding, to which the owner said it would be a good idea. These shoes look pretty nice too, tho I'd probably use them for just cruising as opposed to doing tricks, for fear of messing with the white leather upper. Of course everyone else is different.
3. Flux Footwear Adapt High Top with Graphene - https://fluxfootwear.com/products/flux-high-top-graphene-adapt
This seems like a very durable shoe, from the ripstop fabric upper to the graphene rubber sole. It seems like this shoe would do very well with abrasion, and the sole seems flexible enough to bend with the movement of skateboarding. I reached out to the Flux Footwear people to see if they've been tested for skateboarding, to which they said not yet, but that they'll be hoping to do something like that soon. All in all, with a decent stack height these shoes might not be bad for skateboarding.
4. Adidas The Total Trainer - https://www.adidas.com/us/the-total-shoes/HQ3533.html
I like the look of these but not 100% sure how well they'd fare for doing tricks or much beyond cruising. They are weightlifting shoes which seem geared at keeping the foot in a stable position, so the sole may not be flexible or be well-suited to skating. Just thought I'd throw this out there as the sole and uppers do seem durable enough for a skate shoe, and the toe box of course is wide enough.
5. Splay Freestyle - https://splayshoes.com/collections/freestyle/products/splay-freestyle-coal-shoes
These have been mentioned before, but I thought it worth mentioning again to those who just stumbled upon this thread. The colorway I linked is the most Vans-esque, tho they also do have slip-on versions of their shoes if you really wanna get that yung Vans vibe. These do have a vulcanized rubber sole, and after doing some digging through Splay's instagram a decent amount of their customers do actually use this shoe for skating. Shoe goo or the like is a must for the upper, but the sole seems durable enough, and it absolutely is flexible as well. Have a pair of these myself, they're mad comfy, just haven't taken the plunge in skating with them yet.
6. Xero Prio - https://xeroshoes.com/shop/activity/performance/prio-men/
Braille Skateboarding actually did a video review of skating with these shoes, and you guys can find the link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yup7RJDJk_c. I actually have a pair of these myself, and with how thin they are I'm surprised they managed to do so well skating with them (save for a few bad landings). Of course, the uppers already had holes in them by the time the video was over, but this could be addressed with something like shoe goo. This video was my lightbulb moment as I had been searching for ages for video evidence of people not just cruising but doing tricks with barefoot shoes. This video proves it's possible with the sole, but not so much with the uppers. Many have suggested Xero's Kelso as another good alternative as well, which I'll link below:
7. Xero Kelso - https://xeroshoes.com/shop/shoes/kelso-men/
What separates the Kelso from the Prio is the 6.0mm FeelTrue sole compared to the Prio's 5.5mm. As well, the uppers of the Kelso are a combination of full grain leather and suede. Not to mention, they look pretty badass as well.
I've definitely been meaning to cop at least one of these shoes (besides the Prio which I already have). If I ever do get one of these (or test out my Splay's cruising and doing tricks), I'll be sure to let you guys know.
Thank you for your research! To me the kelso and the freestyle look the best. I might try the freestyle, because it isn‘t as expensive. All the other ones are super pricy!
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The adidas forums have a pretty wide toe box. They last forever too, they’re like tanks
Definitely a tank. If you don’t need the boardfeel and are looking for comfort and support, the Forum is hard to beat.
Similarly, with those new colorways of the Superskate coming, I’d also recommend trying those if you’re willing to skate a hi-top. I have the vulc version (I think the new ones are a cupsole), but it’s very roomy inside. I put my aftermarket insole on top of the stock one *and* wear heavy socks with those. They fit perfect that way, so I’d particularly recommend these for people with voluminous feet.
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Ok everyone, I've been doing a TOOOON of research into this. I come from a minimal shoe with wide toe box background. I've been searching for shoes that have a wide toe box (like, ACTUALLY wide which lets your toes splay) that would at the same time be suitable for skateboarding. I've come up with the following options:
1. SOM Footwear Trailhead OR SOM Footwear HiLite - https://www.somfootwear.com/products/trailhead
These shoes seem to be the most promising. The 8mm cup sole is thin enough that you'll get good board feel, while being polyurethane material (which is lighter and more durable than vulcanized rubber) that according to SOM has "excellent grip on rocks." This could translate to good grip on griptape as well. The insole of the shoe has a cup sole. Another really cool thing about the shoe is that the uppers are made out of SuperFabric, which apparently is designed to be pretty tough. And finally, SOM does offer neoprene flat inserts (about 14 bucks) which apparently "keeps its thickness and shape even during strenous activities such as running or jumping." Extra cushion never hurts, and this all makes SOM seem like a pretty good option. Finally finally, I did actually reach out to SOM Footwear and they said their customers who skateboard choose the Trailhead or HiLite, which is why I included both. The bulk of my research was on the Trailhead, but I'm throwing the HiLite in there for anyone who may be looking for the same materials of the Trailhead in a high-top option.
2. Icarus Ascent - https://icarusfootwear.com/products/first-flight
I found about these guys from the /r/barefootrunning sub on Reddit, and the owner was doing an AMA. I noticed in the description of the shoes, it comes with three different insoles. One of the insoles is a "Thick Max-Energy insoles (Cushioned heel; 5-11mm thick)," which "offer maximum impact absorption to protect your heel from repeated impacts on modern surfaces like concrete and asphalt. Great for long days in the urban jungle, skateboarding, or if your feet aren't ready for "barefoot" levels of support." I asked the owner about using the shoes in conjunction with their thickest insole for skateboarding, to which the owner said it would be a good idea. These shoes look pretty nice too, tho I'd probably use them for just cruising as opposed to doing tricks, for fear of messing with the white leather upper. Of course everyone else is different.
3. Flux Footwear Adapt High Top with Graphene - https://fluxfootwear.com/products/flux-high-top-graphene-adapt
This seems like a very durable shoe, from the ripstop fabric upper to the graphene rubber sole. It seems like this shoe would do very well with abrasion, and the sole seems flexible enough to bend with the movement of skateboarding. I reached out to the Flux Footwear people to see if they've been tested for skateboarding, to which they said not yet, but that they'll be hoping to do something like that soon. All in all, with a decent stack height these shoes might not be bad for skateboarding.
4. Adidas The Total Trainer - https://www.adidas.com/us/the-total-shoes/HQ3533.html
I like the look of these but not 100% sure how well they'd fare for doing tricks or much beyond cruising. They are weightlifting shoes which seem geared at keeping the foot in a stable position, so the sole may not be flexible or be well-suited to skating. Just thought I'd throw this out there as the sole and uppers do seem durable enough for a skate shoe, and the toe box of course is wide enough.
5. Splay Freestyle - https://splayshoes.com/collections/freestyle/products/splay-freestyle-coal-shoes
These have been mentioned before, but I thought it worth mentioning again to those who just stumbled upon this thread. The colorway I linked is the most Vans-esque, tho they also do have slip-on versions of their shoes if you really wanna get that yung Vans vibe. These do have a vulcanized rubber sole, and after doing some digging through Splay's instagram a decent amount of their customers do actually use this shoe for skating. Shoe goo or the like is a must for the upper, but the sole seems durable enough, and it absolutely is flexible as well. Have a pair of these myself, they're mad comfy, just haven't taken the plunge in skating with them yet.
6. Xero Prio - https://xeroshoes.com/shop/activity/performance/prio-men/
Braille Skateboarding actually did a video review of skating with these shoes, and you guys can find the link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yup7RJDJk_c. I actually have a pair of these myself, and with how thin they are I'm surprised they managed to do so well skating with them (save for a few bad landings). Of course, the uppers already had holes in them by the time the video was over, but this could be addressed with something like shoe goo. This video was my lightbulb moment as I had been searching for ages for video evidence of people not just cruising but doing tricks with barefoot shoes. This video proves it's possible with the sole, but not so much with the uppers. Many have suggested Xero's Kelso as another good alternative as well, which I'll link below:
7. Xero Kelso - https://xeroshoes.com/shop/shoes/kelso-men/
What separates the Kelso from the Prio is the 6.0mm FeelTrue sole compared to the Prio's 5.5mm. As well, the uppers of the Kelso are a combination of full grain leather and suede. Not to mention, they look pretty badass as well.
I've definitely been meaning to cop at least one of these shoes (besides the Prio which I already have). If I ever do get one of these (or test out my Splay's cruising and doing tricks), I'll be sure to let you guys know.
Thank you for your research! To me the kelso and the freestyle look the best. I might try the freestyle, because it isn‘t as expensive. All the other ones are super pricy!
I have skated and really tried to make both the Freestyle and Kelso work. I ended up hating both. The Freestyle sole is a little more supportive, but the upper has no support at all. The Kelso upper and shape were better for me. The tiny bit of midsole in the Kelso packs out right away and I was doubling up insoles which made the shoe fit tight and defeats the purpose. I’m back in some 288S and sad to hear NB is ditching that shoe.
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Ok everyone, I've been doing a TOOOON of research into this. I come from a minimal shoe with wide toe box background. I've been searching for shoes that have a wide toe box (like, ACTUALLY wide which lets your toes splay) that would at the same time be suitable for skateboarding. I've come up with the following options:
1. SOM Footwear Trailhead OR SOM Footwear HiLite - https://www.somfootwear.com/products/trailhead
These shoes seem to be the most promising. The 8mm cup sole is thin enough that you'll get good board feel, while being polyurethane material (which is lighter and more durable than vulcanized rubber) that according to SOM has "excellent grip on rocks." This could translate to good grip on griptape as well. The insole of the shoe has a cup sole. Another really cool thing about the shoe is that the uppers are made out of SuperFabric, which apparently is designed to be pretty tough. And finally, SOM does offer neoprene flat inserts (about 14 bucks) which apparently "keeps its thickness and shape even during strenous activities such as running or jumping." Extra cushion never hurts, and this all makes SOM seem like a pretty good option. Finally finally, I did actually reach out to SOM Footwear and they said their customers who skateboard choose the Trailhead or HiLite, which is why I included both. The bulk of my research was on the Trailhead, but I'm throwing the HiLite in there for anyone who may be looking for the same materials of the Trailhead in a high-top option.
2. Icarus Ascent - https://icarusfootwear.com/products/first-flight
I found about these guys from the /r/barefootrunning sub on Reddit, and the owner was doing an AMA. I noticed in the description of the shoes, it comes with three different insoles. One of the insoles is a "Thick Max-Energy insoles (Cushioned heel; 5-11mm thick)," which "offer maximum impact absorption to protect your heel from repeated impacts on modern surfaces like concrete and asphalt. Great for long days in the urban jungle, skateboarding, or if your feet aren't ready for "barefoot" levels of support." I asked the owner about using the shoes in conjunction with their thickest insole for skateboarding, to which the owner said it would be a good idea. These shoes look pretty nice too, tho I'd probably use them for just cruising as opposed to doing tricks, for fear of messing with the white leather upper. Of course everyone else is different.
3. Flux Footwear Adapt High Top with Graphene - https://fluxfootwear.com/products/flux-high-top-graphene-adapt
This seems like a very durable shoe, from the ripstop fabric upper to the graphene rubber sole. It seems like this shoe would do very well with abrasion, and the sole seems flexible enough to bend with the movement of skateboarding. I reached out to the Flux Footwear people to see if they've been tested for skateboarding, to which they said not yet, but that they'll be hoping to do something like that soon. All in all, with a decent stack height these shoes might not be bad for skateboarding.
4. Adidas The Total Trainer - https://www.adidas.com/us/the-total-shoes/HQ3533.html
I like the look of these but not 100% sure how well they'd fare for doing tricks or much beyond cruising. They are weightlifting shoes which seem geared at keeping the foot in a stable position, so the sole may not be flexible or be well-suited to skating. Just thought I'd throw this out there as the sole and uppers do seem durable enough for a skate shoe, and the toe box of course is wide enough.
5. Splay Freestyle - https://splayshoes.com/collections/freestyle/products/splay-freestyle-coal-shoes
These have been mentioned before, but I thought it worth mentioning again to those who just stumbled upon this thread. The colorway I linked is the most Vans-esque, tho they also do have slip-on versions of their shoes if you really wanna get that yung Vans vibe. These do have a vulcanized rubber sole, and after doing some digging through Splay's instagram a decent amount of their customers do actually use this shoe for skating. Shoe goo or the like is a must for the upper, but the sole seems durable enough, and it absolutely is flexible as well. Have a pair of these myself, they're mad comfy, just haven't taken the plunge in skating with them yet.
6. Xero Prio - https://xeroshoes.com/shop/activity/performance/prio-men/
Braille Skateboarding actually did a video review of skating with these shoes, and you guys can find the link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yup7RJDJk_c. I actually have a pair of these myself, and with how thin they are I'm surprised they managed to do so well skating with them (save for a few bad landings). Of course, the uppers already had holes in them by the time the video was over, but this could be addressed with something like shoe goo. This video was my lightbulb moment as I had been searching for ages for video evidence of people not just cruising but doing tricks with barefoot shoes. This video proves it's possible with the sole, but not so much with the uppers. Many have suggested Xero's Kelso as another good alternative as well, which I'll link below:
7. Xero Kelso - https://xeroshoes.com/shop/shoes/kelso-men/
What separates the Kelso from the Prio is the 6.0mm FeelTrue sole compared to the Prio's 5.5mm. As well, the uppers of the Kelso are a combination of full grain leather and suede. Not to mention, they look pretty badass as well.
I've definitely been meaning to cop at least one of these shoes (besides the Prio which I already have). If I ever do get one of these (or test out my Splay's cruising and doing tricks), I'll be sure to let you guys know.
the design of the Icarus, Flux and Splay looks good. if they ever make a skate version of those, i'm all in.
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Cross post from the cupsole thread:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115395.msg3971924#msg3971924
If I hadn't just picked up some Nyjah3s (I know, kill me now....but they fit / feel fucking tits and I'm using them for the gym until the get broken in, so double duty) I'd be all over these...that lace protection!
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In my tireless journey I've found more promising shoes from a company called Strike Movement...and these shoes won't break the bank! A lot of them are $60-$70, and some go up to $110 and $120.
Unlike the shoes I listed previously, these aren't zero drop but are pretty damn close - about 2 to 4mm heel to toe. They're all still hella wide around the toebox area, and flexible in the sole, but what really drew my curiosity are what the shoes feature: durable rubber soles (while still maintaining flexibility), and per the website "supportive sidewall chassis for increased lateral rigidity and perimeter protection during rope climbs." I figure if a shoe is good for rope climbs, it's probably good for skateboarding.
A big dealbreaker when it comes to minimalist style shoes and skateboarding are the uppers, but it appears the shoes here have solved that problem by using ripstop (and ultrasuede in some models). Bear in mind, not all of the shoes from this company are made of ripstop. So I went page by page on the "view all" option for the shoes, and just crtl+f ripstop. Here's what I found, sorted from least to most expensive:
https://strike-mvmnt.com/collections/shop-all-footwear/products/interval-performance-crosstrainer-black-white
https://strike-mvmnt.com/collections/shop-all-footwear/products/interval-performance-crosstrainer-white
https://strike-mvmnt.com/collections/shop-all-footwear/products/chill-pill-mid-af-training-shoe-army-gum
https://strike-mvmnt.com/collections/shop-all-footwear/products/pace-af-training-shoe-phantom-white
https://strike-mvmnt.com/collections/shop-all-footwear/products/pace-af-training-shoe-phantom-black
https://strike-mvmnt.com/collections/shop-all-footwear/products/chill-pill-mid-af-training-shoe-black-red
https://strike-mvmnt.com/collections/shop-all-footwear/products/chill-pill-af-training-shoe-black-ripstop
https://strike-mvmnt.com/collections/shop-all-footwear/products/chill-pill-transit-af-training-shoe-army
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While not the widest (and certainly not a forum fav) - the new Nike Nigel 3 is deceptively wide...as someone who needs a wide, upper metatarsal area, these are extremely well fitting/light/and cushy, yet pointy-flicky in the toe area/tip of the shoe; much wider than the 1 or 2 and the ventilation is pretty crazy.
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Out of all the current shoe models I have tried the Emerica KSL G6s have the widest toe box.
Many skate shoes IME are narrow in the toe box or designed on a narrow, low volume last. I have not tried every shoe under the sun. I would not wear those "barefoot"/minimalist type shoes personally for any reason. FWIW podiatrists and knee docs see a lot of injuries from those shoes. My everyday sneakers are Hoka Gaviotas.
Full list of skate shoes I have tried recently. Only the first two worked for me. The Vans MC96 had a fairly wide toebox and good volume, but there were other aspects of the fit that I didn't like. YMMV.
Vans: BMX 114
Emerica: KSL G6
Nike: Ishod, Cortez, Dunks, Force 58, Blazers
NB: 440, 1010, 808
DC: Metric
Emerica: Pillar
'eS: Stylus Mid
Adidas: Tyshawn Mid
Vans: MC 96
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Out of all the current shoe models I have tried the Emerica KSL G6s have the widest toe box.
Many skate shoes IME are narrow in the toe box or designed on a narrow, low volume last. I have not tried every shoe under the sun. I would not wear those "barefoot"/minimalist type shoes personally for any reason. FWIW podiatrists and knee docs see a lot of injuries from those shoes. My everyday sneakers are Hoka Gaviotas.
Full list of skate shoes I have tried recently. Only the first two worked for me. The Vans MC96 had a fairly wide toebox and good volume, but there were other aspects of the fit that I didn't like. YMMV.
Vans: BMX 114
Emerica: KSL G6
Nike: Ishod, Cortez, Dunks, Force 58, Blazers
NB: 440, 1010, 808
DC: Metric
Emerica: Pillar
'eS: Stylus Mid
Adidas: Tyshawn Mid
Vans: MC 96
Out of that list, what's worked for me:
KSL G6
Tyshawn Mids (up half size)
Force 58
Blazer (GTs) but I need to lace them loose...laces are short kept coming undone, haven't bothered to swap laces.
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Just wanna chime in because I had wide shoe madness forever- the KSL fits like a glove, it doesnt even seem like it would be wide enough for my weird ass foot, but once its on, it not only feels perfect, I really think they look good! Get compliments on them constantly
I also like the Omen Hi, but its a vulc so definitely protects less and the sole isnt as durable.
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Force 58
Blazer (GTs) but I need to lace them loose...laces are short kept coming undone, haven't bothered to swap laces.
Blazers in my size were difficult to even get on the foot and felt terrible. Just way too narrow for me. Even half a size up did not work.
Force 58s half a size up barely fit but easier to get on. Almost zero room in toe length (a very tiny amount) and felt like wearing shoes made of plastic and soles made of rocks. Just not comfortable at all for me. I wanted to like them and assume they get better with break in. Just couldn't take the risk as they'd likely end up as another pair of shoes for the donation pile.
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The adidas forums have a pretty wide toe box. They last forever too, they’re like tanks
I've got to second this. The Forum 84 Low ADV (I think that's all of it) is a bit bulkier than most but the toe box is nice and wide and for an old guy with bigger feet like me they fit great and are comfy. Also, unlike most Adidas skate shoes there are tongue straps. I can confirm the tank comment as well.
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Force 58
Blazer (GTs) but I need to lace them loose...laces are short kept coming undone, haven't bothered to swap laces.
Blazers in my size were difficult to even get on the foot and felt terrible. Just way too narrow for me. Even half a size up did not work.
Force 58s half a size up barely fit but easier to get on. Almost zero room in toe length (a very tiny amount) and felt like wearing shoes made of plastic and soles made of rocks. Just not comfortable at all for me. I wanted to like them and assume they get better with break in. Just couldn't take the risk as they'd likely end up as another pair of shoes for the donation pile.
Yeah, the force 58 seem to run small in length I can fit in TTS but they are a bit snug; not half a size small or anything, I just have to lace them tight. They breaking quite well and get very flexi very quick.
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I've been on Maranas for the past few years and they've been treating my hobbit feet well as long as I give them a shoe stretcher treatment for a few nights before first skating them. Now I got a pair of Marana Fiberlites and they feel like an even better fitting version overall without needing any stretching around the pinky toes. I had to go half a size up from the regular Maranas to get the same fit. They even added tongue centering straps which I was missing on the originals. My only gripe is that the hidden lace loops could run a bit higher, but you can't have everything. Now I'm just hoping they stay in production so I don't need to think of what to wear.
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So after reading a few comments about Globes being wider in the toe box i bought a pair of Motley 2s. Will be sending them back to a manufacturing fault where the fabric lining under the sockliner/insole hasnt been stuck down properly and is creased and has air bubbles you can feel when you wear them. The shoes is wide though, and quite volumnous for those with taller feet/high arches. The toe box is quite pointy, reminding me of the etnies/emerica shape, which is not my personal thing. Very light as well, which is good. There is no padding around the heel collar though, i am guessing a padded version of these would be the Mahalo.
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Any of the converse fastbreaks with nylon in the upper (I find that material fits more consistent than suede versions.) That's my favorite cup at the moment.
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Any of the converse fastbreaks with nylon in the upper (I find that material fits more consistent than suede versions.) That's my favorite cup at the moment.
converse are some of the narrowest toebox shoes in existence
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Ok everyone, I've been doing a TOOOON of research into this. I come from a minimal shoe with wide toe box background. I've been searching for shoes that have a wide toe box (like, ACTUALLY wide which lets your toes splay) that would at the same time be suitable for skateboarding. I've come up with the following options:
1. SOM Footwear Trailhead OR SOM Footwear HiLite - https://www.somfootwear.com/products/trailhead
These shoes seem to be the most promising. The 8mm cup sole is thin enough that you'll get good board feel, while being polyurethane material (which is lighter and more durable than vulcanized rubber) that according to SOM has "excellent grip on rocks." This could translate to good grip on griptape as well. The insole of the shoe has a cup sole. Another really cool thing about the shoe is that the uppers are made out of SuperFabric, which apparently is designed to be pretty tough. And finally, SOM does offer neoprene flat inserts (about 14 bucks) which apparently "keeps its thickness and shape even during strenous activities such as running or jumping." Extra cushion never hurts, and this all makes SOM seem like a pretty good option. Finally finally, I did actually reach out to SOM Footwear and they said their customers who skateboard choose the Trailhead or HiLite, which is why I included both. The bulk of my research was on the Trailhead, but I'm throwing the HiLite in there for anyone who may be looking for the same materials of the Trailhead in a high-top option.
2. Icarus Ascent - https://icarusfootwear.com/products/first-flight
I found about these guys from the /r/barefootrunning sub on Reddit, and the owner was doing an AMA. I noticed in the description of the shoes, it comes with three different insoles. One of the insoles is a "Thick Max-Energy insoles (Cushioned heel; 5-11mm thick)," which "offer maximum impact absorption to protect your heel from repeated impacts on modern surfaces like concrete and asphalt. Great for long days in the urban jungle, skateboarding, or if your feet aren't ready for "barefoot" levels of support." I asked the owner about using the shoes in conjunction with their thickest insole for skateboarding, to which the owner said it would be a good idea. These shoes look pretty nice too, tho I'd probably use them for just cruising as opposed to doing tricks, for fear of messing with the white leather upper. Of course everyone else is different.
3. Flux Footwear Adapt High Top with Graphene - https://fluxfootwear.com/products/flux-high-top-graphene-adapt
This seems like a very durable shoe, from the ripstop fabric upper to the graphene rubber sole. It seems like this shoe would do very well with abrasion, and the sole seems flexible enough to bend with the movement of skateboarding. I reached out to the Flux Footwear people to see if they've been tested for skateboarding, to which they said not yet, but that they'll be hoping to do something like that soon. All in all, with a decent stack height these shoes might not be bad for skateboarding.
4. Adidas The Total Trainer - https://www.adidas.com/us/the-total-shoes/HQ3533.html
I like the look of these but not 100% sure how well they'd fare for doing tricks or much beyond cruising. They are weightlifting shoes which seem geared at keeping the foot in a stable position, so the sole may not be flexible or be well-suited to skating. Just thought I'd throw this out there as the sole and uppers do seem durable enough for a skate shoe, and the toe box of course is wide enough.
5. Splay Freestyle - https://splayshoes.com/collections/freestyle/products/splay-freestyle-coal-shoes
These have been mentioned before, but I thought it worth mentioning again to those who just stumbled upon this thread. The colorway I linked is the most Vans-esque, tho they also do have slip-on versions of their shoes if you really wanna get that yung Vans vibe. These do have a vulcanized rubber sole, and after doing some digging through Splay's instagram a decent amount of their customers do actually use this shoe for skating. Shoe goo or the like is a must for the upper, but the sole seems durable enough, and it absolutely is flexible as well. Have a pair of these myself, they're mad comfy, just haven't taken the plunge in skating with them yet.
6. Xero Prio - https://xeroshoes.com/shop/activity/performance/prio-men/
Braille Skateboarding actually did a video review of skating with these shoes, and you guys can find the link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yup7RJDJk_c. I actually have a pair of these myself, and with how thin they are I'm surprised they managed to do so well skating with them (save for a few bad landings). Of course, the uppers already had holes in them by the time the video was over, but this could be addressed with something like shoe goo. This video was my lightbulb moment as I had been searching for ages for video evidence of people not just cruising but doing tricks with barefoot shoes. This video proves it's possible with the sole, but not so much with the uppers. Many have suggested Xero's Kelso as another good alternative as well, which I'll link below:
7. Xero Kelso - https://xeroshoes.com/shop/shoes/kelso-men/
What separates the Kelso from the Prio is the 6.0mm FeelTrue sole compared to the Prio's 5.5mm. As well, the uppers of the Kelso are a combination of full grain leather and suede. Not to mention, they look pretty badass as well.
I've definitely been meaning to cop at least one of these shoes (besides the Prio which I already have). If I ever do get one of these (or test out my Splay's cruising and doing tricks), I'll be sure to let you guys know.
decent post as this is one of the only posts in the thread to consider the need for toes to actually splay and the amount of width that actually requires. unfortunately, most of those are universally BUTTUGLY and certainly incapable of standing up to the abuse of hardcore street skateboarding and aggressive tricks
to everyone else:
if you "have wide feet and just size up" you don't actually have wide feet.
if you think a simple W next to the number is sufficient, you are ignorant about this issue
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some other new developments:
https://www.bohempia.eu/zavid-2-0-brown-black/
https://fluxfootwear.com/collections/mens/products/adapt-high-top?variant=43184353018089
https://www.groundies.com/barefootplus-fit/GROUNDIES-Amsterdam-Barefoot-Men-camel.html
https://www.feelgrounds.com/products/highrise-luxe-gum-white
some of these are better looking, but again, almost certainly incapable to standing up to the abuse of aggressive hardcore street skateboarding. does anyone here work at an actual skate shoe company that can get some anatomically correct shoes made?
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I read on another wide shoe thread that the Lakai Griffin is wide-ish for a vulc. I wondered if anyone had tried them from a wide toe box perspective and had any thought on them. I tried the Manchesters but found them too pointy.
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I'm pretty into the wide toe box / barefoot shoe thing and the New Balance 272 has been the best skate shoe for that vibe for me. The toe box is nice and wide and the arch support minimal. The heel is slightly raised, but these are only skate shoes that leave my feet feeling normal after a session. I think they're also slightly longer than some of the other numeric models so that might be part of it. They have plenty of protection too. I've landed primo a number of times and have gotten away with it every time.
Here's a pic of the other NBs I've tried and a few shoes popular in the wide toe box world. I'm a size 12 so here's a summary of how the others felt compared to the 272s.
255 - Started here. These felt pretty nice but something about how they placed the laces leads to me ripping one basically every session.
440 - Grabbed these next. Super bummed these didn't work out because these seems to always get great colorways. They're more squared off so my middle toes are a little more snug than I'd like, but that might work for your foot shape. The killer for me was the built in arch support. It's high. I'm used to minimalist shoes so after even a half hour in these my soles feel like they lost a fight.
306L - I was excited to try these after burning through laces in 255s. They were great for a while but the elastic on my flick foot gave out and now it's pretty floppy. They are a little narrower than the 272s.
I really appreciate the variety of sizes and shapes New Balance offers. It can make finding your fit an expensive hassle, especially when they don't even have a dealer locator for their Numeric line on their website, but it's nice that they seem to offer something for everyone.
https://i.ibb.co/7SDwFzg/96-EFBFFC-345-C-4-EAF-8-C96-871-CBAF3-B679.jpg
Very cool, I now have a pair of 272s on the way, we'll see if the fit can compete with the Marana slip xlt
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The adidas forums have a pretty wide toe box. They last forever too, they’re like tanks
I've got to second this. The Forum 84 Low ADV (I think that's all of it) is a bit bulkier than most but the toe box is nice and wide and for an old guy with bigger feet like me they fit great and are comfy. Also, unlike most Adidas skate shoes there are tongue straps. I can confirm the tank comment as well.
Here to testify on these. I have absolute flippers. Bought em fully prepared to have as chillers on account of the bulk but after 2 sessions theyve broken in super well
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How do the Forum ADVs fit? TTS?
Currently wearing the Josl1ns, gotta say, pretty good/wide fit.
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How do the Forum ADVs fit? TTS?
Currently wearing the Josl1ns, gotta say, pretty good/wide fit.
The forum ADVs are significantly wider. Wide midfoot and really comfortable but a pretty big shoe
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As a former barefoot/minimalist guy I can't fathom trying to skate one. They're designed to be as thin as possible and just the thought of the board feel those foamy soles must have is giving me the ick. It would be like skating in water shoes.
My advice is to buy one of the wider numerics cups and actually skate them long enough to break them in. It can take weeks for the stiffer ones like the 440 to start to stretch, but the less structured ones will loosen up pretty quick, especially in the summer. I haven't even used my stretchers in the last year other than on some last resorts I wear as "dress" shoes.
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How do the Forum ADVs fit? TTS?
Currently wearing the Josl1ns, gotta say, pretty good/wide fit.
Tts “lengthwise” for sure
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How do the Forum ADVs fit? TTS?
Currently wearing the Josl1ns, gotta say, pretty good/wide fit.
Tts “lengthwise” for sure
Thanks, that was the TTS info I was looking for!
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https://wearecivil.com/shop/footwear/new-balance-574-vulc-black-grey/
Always on the look out for wider thin vulcs.
Has anyone tried either these Lakai Cardiffs or new 574 vulcs? Both look wider than most.
I have the 574 vuls. They are a good shoe. I chose the wide option and they are fairly wide. I don't know about the standard version, though. the wide version isn't extremely wide either.
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I have the 574 vuls. They are a good shoe. I chose the wide option and they are fairly wide. I don't know about the standard version, though. the wide version isn't extremely wide either.
Wow I've been hoping for wide versions of NB shoes for so long now. I don't see any info on the NB site about them. What parts of the shoes are wider? I really hope there will be some wide cupsoles too.
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Not much mention of the 1010s in here, but how are they for wide flat feet? I get usually get by with Cons in 11 and Vans in 11.5, but would love something comfier. Also looking at Wayvees. Unfortunately both are impossible to find on sale in 11.5 in Canada right now.
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Not much mention of the 1010s in here, but how are they for wide flat feet? I get usually get by with Cons in 11 and Vans in 11.5, but would love something comfier. Also looking at Wayvees. Unfortunately both are impossible to find on sale in 11.5 in Canada right now.
1010 not wide, sort of uncomfortable for a long while, had foot pains just walking around in them, maybe I’m used to more minimal foot ware like the new balance minimal sneakers, I do think the 440 highs work wel for wide feet.
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The lakai brightons fit wide ass foot pretty well but I skated through them in probably two weeks. Been wearing the Josl1ns the past few months and they last forever. But I still have to take my shoe off multiple times a session and I hate the board feel. I miss the days of all skate shoes being wide and comfy.
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Not much mention of the 1010s in here, but how are they for wide flat feet? I get usually get by with Cons in 11 and Vans in 11.5, but would love something comfier. Also looking at Wayvees. Unfortunately both are impossible to find on sale in 11.5 in Canada right now.
1010 not wide, sort of uncomfortable for a long while, had foot pains just walking around in them, maybe I’m used to more minimal foot ware like the new balance minimal sneakers, I do think the 440 highs work wel for wide feet.
Tried on 1010s and 440s today, both felt good in the forefoot, problem is my midfoot has no arch and is as wide as my forefoot, so neither worked. It seems impossible to find a good looking skate shoe with an almost rectangular sole.
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(https://www.lakai.com/cdn/shop/products/CARDIFF_White-Gum-Suede_MS3220264A00_WHTGS_03_1200x.jpg?v=1662844294)
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https://wearecivil.com/shop/footwear/new-balance-574-vulc-black-grey/
Always on the look out for wider thin vulcs.
Has anyone tried either these Lakai Cardiffs or new 574 vulcs? Both look wider than most.
I have the 574 vuls. They are a good shoe. I chose the wide option and they are fairly wide. I don't know about the standard version, though. the wide version isn't extremely wide either.
@rothdigga, curious if you can give info on when the wide fit of these might be available? I see the vulcs popping up in a few shops, excited to try them on
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Just got some Emerica og1s. Definitely some of the widest shoes I have had. I possibly could have gone down half a size.
@Thebird, how's the quality on those?
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Picked up some Wayvees today and they feel really nice and roomy. Also tried Crockett Highs since they had a similar sole and those were also super comfy. Hopefully the CH’s stick around in the Vans lineup for awhile because I’d love to try them out next.
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(https://wearecivil.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/nm574vcb_5.jpg)
(https://wearecivil.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/nm574vcb_4.jpg)
https://wearecivil.com/shop/footwear/new-balance-574-vulc-black-grey/
Always on the look out for wider thin vulcs.
Has anyone tried either these Lakai Cardiffs or new 574 vulcs? Both look wider than most.
I have the 574 vuls. They are a good shoe. I chose the wide option and they are fairly wide. I don't know about the standard version, though. the wide version isn't extremely wide either.
@rothdigga, curious if you can give info on when the wide fit of these might be available? I see the vulcs popping up in a few shops, excited to try them on
Our first production wide shoes won't hit until Q1 24 (Jan 1 24 intro) and will be in the 574 vulc, 440 low and 272's, so 3 different silhouettes to choose from in wide. I don't anticipate many shops having them as it's super specific, so mostly just an NB.com play for now until they catch on.
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(https://www.lakai.com/cdn/shop/products/CARDIFF_White-Gum-Suede_MS3220264A00_WHTGS_03_1200x.jpg?v=1662844294)
(https://wearecivil.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/nm574vcb_5.jpg)
(https://wearecivil.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/nm574vcb_4.jpg)
https://wearecivil.com/shop/footwear/new-balance-574-vulc-black-grey/
Always on the look out for wider thin vulcs.
Has anyone tried either these Lakai Cardiffs or new 574 vulcs? Both look wider than most.
I have the 574 vuls. They are a good shoe. I chose the wide option and they are fairly wide. I don't know about the standard version, though. the wide version isn't extremely wide either.
@rothdigga, curious if you can give info on when the wide fit of these might be available? I see the vulcs popping up in a few shops, excited to try them on
Our first production wide shoes won't hit until Q1 24 (Jan 1 24 intro) and will be in the 574 vulc, 440 low and 272's, so 3 different silhouettes to choose from in wide. I don't anticipate many shops having them as it's super specific, so mostly just an NB.com play for now until they catch on.
You da man! Thank you!!
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https://wearecivil.com/shop/footwear/new-balance-574-vulc-black-grey/
Always on the look out for wider thin vulcs.
I have the 574 vuls. They are a good shoe. I chose the wide option and they are fairly wide. I don't know about the standard version, though. the wide version isn't extremely wide either.
@rothdigga, curious if you can give info on when the wide fit of these might be available? I see the vulcs popping up in a few shops, excited to try them on
Our first production wide shoes won't hit until Q1 24 (Jan 1 24 intro) and will be in the 574 vulc, 440 low and 272's, so 3 different silhouettes to choose from in wide. I don't anticipate many shops having them as it's super specific, so mostly just an NB.com play for now until they catch on.
The NB wide option for this 574 skate shoe will be wide across the entire shoe right? not just the toe? I have a pair of 574 Wide golf shoes and they feel good and generally wide across the entire shoe.
EDIT: just answered my own question google searching.
https://support.newbalance.com/s/article/What-Are-the-Measurements-Between-New-Balance-Shoe-Sizes-and-Widths
Width: There is approximately a 1/2" difference between widths (2A, B, D, 2E and 4E) and a 3/8" difference between 4E and 6E width This difference occurs across the ball of the foot and is the maximum difference in width. There is less of a width difference as you move toward the tip of the shoe and toward the heel
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some other new developments:
https://www.bohempia.eu/zavid-2-0-brown-black/
https://fluxfootwear.com/collections/mens/products/adapt-high-top?variant=43184353018089
https://www.groundies.com/barefootplus-fit/GROUNDIES-Amsterdam-Barefoot-Men-camel.html
https://www.feelgrounds.com/products/highrise-luxe-gum-white
some of these are better looking, but again, almost certainly incapable to standing up to the abuse of aggressive hardcore street skateboarding. does anyone here work at an actual skate shoe company that can get some anatomically correct shoes made?
I just discovered these:
They have a store in my hometown so I will be able to try them on and see if they might be OK for skating.
https://www.baer-shoes.co.uk/erik-1081-213-06-0/
I am currently skating the vans wayvees. They are tight, but I can make them work.
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some other new developments:
https://www.bohempia.eu/zavid-2-0-brown-black/
https://fluxfootwear.com/collections/mens/products/adapt-high-top?variant=43184353018089
https://www.groundies.com/barefootplus-fit/GROUNDIES-Amsterdam-Barefoot-Men-camel.html
https://www.feelgrounds.com/products/highrise-luxe-gum-white
some of these are better looking, but again, almost certainly incapable to standing up to the abuse of aggressive hardcore street skateboarding. does anyone here work at an actual skate shoe company that can get some anatomically correct shoes made?
I just discovered these:
They have a store in my hometown so I will be able to try them on and see if they might be OK for skating.
https://www.baer-shoes.co.uk/erik-1081-213-06-0/
I am currently skating the vans wayvees. They are tight, but I can make them work.
201 euro! For skating, that's probably a no go.
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Just got some Emerica og1s. Definitely some of the widest shoes I have had. I possibly could have gone down half a size.
Have not skated them yet, but they definitely seem durable. Good suede. Probably wear through the sole before you go through the side.
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a pair of nike air trainer 1s fell off a box truck and I've been wearing them at home with my arch insoles because the etnies scouts i had were too narrow and cramping my toes. They are working much better for me. They are quite wide.
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Rolling 2 pairs of Forums with 2 on ice because theyre skating like a dream. Looking to scale down bulk slightly. I dig adidas cuz they double as chillers well.
Any flipper footed brethren mess with Campus, Campus 00s, Alohas, Adimatics or Adi 2000s?
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Forums are the best shoe I’ve used for skating and also the simpler colorways look amazing. But I have a problem with shoelaces. They are ripped within one session of ollies and flips. Did you find the same issue?
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Forums are the best shoe I’ve used for skating and also the simpler colorways look amazing. But I have a problem with shoelaces. They are ripped within one session of ollies and flips. Did you find the same issue?
Cant say that i have. Im going on 5 months from my first pair being in rotation. On a Busenitz or 3st theyd break near the forefoot and up closer to the ankle. My sessions arent Jane Fonda routines either so just lucky on my part i guess
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I got the adidas superstar advs and mad wide feet and they're working pretty good I actually have to tighten the laces more than usual
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Forums are the best shoe I’ve used for skating and also the simpler colorways look amazing. But I have a problem with shoelaces. They are ripped within one session of ollies and flips. Did you find the same issue?
Cant say that i have. Im going on 5 months from my first pair being in rotation. On a Busenitz or 3st theyd break near the forefoot and up closer to the ankle. My sessions arent Jane Fonda routines either so just lucky on my part i guess
Thank you! I had no idea about what are Jane Fonda routines so I went to Youtube and was laughing for a minute ;D
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NB#425
I have a (small) bunion and usually my foot suffers regardless of the shoes I am wearing. The 425's feel very tight at the top of my foot but feel very wide at the toes. It i as if their shape corrects the bunion and allows my toes to spread out.
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It seems like New Balance is a common answer here. I tried the Foy new balance 306 on recommendation and they were too narrow and hurt my feet. Can anyone confirm or deny that any of these other New Balance models would be wider than the 306? The only shoes that have been somewhat comfortable for me to skate in were the Straye Gowers, but they recently changed the shape of them and eliminated my size (11.5).
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It seems like New Balance is a common answer here. I tried the Foy new balance 306 on recommendation and they were too narrow and hurt my feet. Can anyone confirm or deny that any of these other New Balance models would be wider than the 306? The only shoes that have been somewhat comfortable for me to skate in were the Straye Gowers, but they recently changed the shape of them and eliminated my size (11.5).
For my foot the 306 is one of the narrower/more painful NB shoes. 272, 288 Sport, 1010 are much wider. I rotate between 272/288 sport for the most part. 1010s have so much heel lift I get really bad knee pain with them. I imagine the new 574 also has a somewhat wider toebox like the 272.
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It seems like New Balance is a common answer here. I tried the Foy new balance 306 on recommendation and they were too narrow and hurt my feet. Can anyone confirm or deny that any of these other New Balance models would be wider than the 306? The only shoes that have been somewhat comfortable for me to skate in were the Straye Gowers, but they recently changed the shape of them and eliminated my size (11.5).
For my foot the 306 is one of the narrower/more painful NB shoes. 272, 288 Sport, 1010 are much wider. I rotate between 272/288 sport for the most part. 1010s have so much heel lift I get really bad knee pain with them. I imagine the new 574 also has a somewhat wider toebox like the 272.
Good to know, I'll give 'em a try. Luckily I've still got 4 pairs of Gowers in my closet I'll probably keep shoe-gooing for a while, lol. Thanks!
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It seems like New Balance is a common answer here. I tried the Foy new balance 306 on recommendation and they were too narrow and hurt my feet. Can anyone confirm or deny that any of these other New Balance models would be wider than the 306? The only shoes that have been somewhat comfortable for me to skate in were the Straye Gowers, but they recently changed the shape of them and eliminated my size (11.5).
For my foot the 306 is one of the narrower/more painful NB shoes. 272, 288 Sport, 1010 are much wider. I rotate between 272/288 sport for the most part. 1010s have so much heel lift I get really bad knee pain with them. I imagine the new 574 also has a somewhat wider toebox like the 272.
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The 574 ct has a wide one for sure. Skates pretty similar to a Vulc for a cup sole too. The insoles sore pretty basic though, I’d recommend some fp in there or something. Might have to check out the other models you mentioned though myself (I like the 1010s already) thanks
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I've been wearing the Tyshawn originals the past three days. Cosy, yet broad enough for my feet. More supportive than the kyle walker and half cabs I usually wear. I don't know if it's a coincidence, but I'm not experiencing the pain in my knees and legs I typically feel after skating. I'm considering solely skating these from now on.
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I've been wearing the Tyshawn originals the past three days. Cosy, yet broad enough for my feet. More supportive than the kyle walker and half cabs I usually wear. I don't know if it's a coincidence, but I'm not experiencing the pain in my knees and legs I typically feel after skating. I'm considering solely skating these from now on.
How do you find the board feel compared to the half cabs, with one being cup and the other vulc?
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I've been wearing the Tyshawn originals the past three days. Cosy, yet broad enough for my feet. More supportive than the kyle walker and half cabs I usually wear. I don't know if it's a coincidence, but I'm not experiencing the pain in my knees and legs I typically feel after skating. I'm considering solely skating these from now on.
How do you find the board feel compared to the half cabs, with one being cup and the other vulc?
It's okay. Noticeably stiffer, but by the end of the first session they felt okay. By the third session they were conformable. Switched back to kyle walkers for a session with my family yesterday morning; they felt very cosy and grippier, but I felt achey afterwards. Wore the Tyshawns when I skated by myself in the evening and they felt good. A bit stiffer and less grippy, which I prefer over too grippy. They're not as wide as half cabs or kyle walker 2s, but suit my feet.
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Update on trying New Balance. I got the 272s. They were wider than the Foys, and felt ok for walking around, so I skated them. Mistake. Not wide enough, and the ball of my foot hurts now. Wouldn't skate them again but can't return them now.
Ended up getting some old Strayes from ebay that I could confirm were the old version with my size. Not sure how much longer I'll be able to do that but I'm scared to try anything new now after being out $52.
Anyone want some black 11.5 NB# 272s?
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Shoutout to people who recommended Forums. Wide enough and actual fucking tanks.
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I have two different pairs of Etnies Josl1n's.
This one fits really good and I skated it already a few times.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wv5xDpPX/Screenshot-20231011-215604-Samsung-Internet.jpg)
Then, because I liked that shoe so much I got these ones.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZxPDxb6/Screenshot-20231011-215928-Samsung-Internet.jpg)
The second one of these shoes is giving my left foot some trouble (my left foot is like 4mm longer as my right foot but I never really realized that in the Vulc shoes I previously skated). It feels way different as the left shoe from the previous brown model. How can that be?
My theory is, there is some kind of difference with the cupsole. The brown shoe has like two different colors/parts on the sole. The gum part on the bottom and the white part of the sole, so maybe 2 layers? And that can help the shoe to stretch out better. And the second shoe has like only one gum part of sole, so maybe only one layer? Maybe a shoe stretcher could help?
I hope that all made sense, because English isn't my first language and I haven't slept well the last days, but I will talk about that somewhere else another time. Going through some shit but love all you pals on these forum. Thanks in advance.
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I have two different pairs of Etnies Josl1n's.
This one fits really good and I skated it already a few times.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wv5xDpPX/Screenshot-20231011-215604-Samsung-Internet.jpg)
Then, because I liked that shoe so much I got these ones.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZxPDxb6/Screenshot-20231011-215928-Samsung-Internet.jpg)
The second one of these shoes is giving my left foot some trouble (my left foot is like 4mm longer as my right foot but I never really realized that in the Vulc shoes I previously skated). It feels way different as the left shoe from the previous brown model. How can that be?
My theory is, there is some kind of difference with the cupsole. The brown shoe has like two different colors/parts on the sole. The gum part on the bottom and the white part of the sole, so maybe 2 layers? And that can help the shoe to stretch out better. And the second shoe has like only one gum part of sole, so maybe only one layer? Maybe a shoe stretcher could help?
I hope that all made sense, because English isn't my first language and I haven't slept well the last days, but I will talk about that somewhere else another time. Going through some shit but love all you pals on these forum. Thanks in advance.
The outsole being white/gum vs gum/gum between the two shouldn't make a difference, no matter the company making a cupsole like this. That sole unit is usually a gum/gum construction and they dip or dye (not 100% on the process) the top/outer part of the sole in the desired color (white, gum, black, gray, etc.) so that shouldn't change fit. I imagine the last and construction of the upper is prone to some QC hiccups like any brand could have, which could translate to the Indy one happening to fit slightly different from the brown one.
Another idea might be thd socks you're wearing. Have you worn thicker socks in the white Indy ones? I have noticed shoes that fit a certain way feel "off" when I wear noticeably thicker or thinner socks. Especially thicker ones making existing shoes feel too tight.
Both models are predominantly all suede, so it's interesting that there's fit variability to this noticeable extent. I've had the occasional Joslin or Marana over the years fit slightly than the others but it's usually because of extra padding or leather used in some part of the upper, which makes it fit tighter.
When not wearing them, using the shoe stretcher or stuffing the toe full of packing paper or socks to spread the toe out could help make it roomier/longer.to not hurt your left foot as much
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Just tried some old C1rcas from Ebay, because I thought I remembered them being wide. Tried them on and instantly felt too tight. I think I forgot that I used to just buy a size too big and live with it.
So at this point I'm basically at a loss. As I see it, my options are
1) skate skate shoes a full size too big with way too much room in the toe
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2) skate shoes made for a wide foot that aren't made for skating
Both suck, but I'm probably going to go with 1 since it's cheaper.
Really fucking pissed Straye changed the only skate shoe that fit me in years.
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Are the eS Accel Slim as wide as the OG?
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1) skate skate shoes a full size too big with way too much room in the toe
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2) skate shoes made for a wide foot that aren't made for skating
I've tried both, haven't found a good wide non-skate shoe that works well enough for skating. Hoping the NB# wide options (440v2, 272, 574) coming in 2024 will be the ones.
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Are the eS Accel Slim as wide as the OG?
Not at all. Far more modern and tapered in the toe. They're wide enough where the pinky toe sits but not as roomy and stubby round as the OG. Also, the height of the upper is lower than the OG so if you need vertical room for your toes, these aren't as spacious in that department either.
The only way they could be close in width is to go up sizes but then the length and fit is off elsewhere. Better off avoiding that shoe as it's practically a cheap fever dream version of what a "thin" Accel OG should be.
TLDR: no, not as wide. Had a 4-5 pairs at least so i know first hand, as well. Let out quite some complaints there haha
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Crocs
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Are the eS Accel Slim as wide as the OG?
Not at all. Far more modern and tapered in the toe. They're wide enough where the pinky toe sits but not as roomy and stubby round as the OG. Also, the height of the upper is lower than the OG so if you need vertical room for your toes, these aren't as spacious in that department either.
The only way they could be close in width is to go up sizes but then the length and fit is off elsewhere. Better off avoiding that shoe as it's practically a cheap fever dream version of what a "thin" Accel OG should be.
TLDR: no, not as wide. Had a 4-5 pairs at least so i know first hand, as well. Let out quite some complaints there haha
Thank you, just saved me £60.
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Anyone know how the es Quattro fits in comparison the the Accel OG?
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Shoutout to people who recommended Forums. Wide enough and actual fucking tanks.
Forum ADVs the current SW daily dose AND 20% bishes
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/dailydose.html
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Shoutout to people who recommended Forums. Wide enough and actual fucking tanks.
Forum ADVs the current SW daily dose AND 20% bishes
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/dailydose.html
I have tried the Forums on. I did not find them very wide at all. Judging from this threat my feet are even wide among wide feet. I couldn't make joslins work either. I am currently skating NB 574 all coasts (one size up). At work I wear vans wayvees. They stretched out a bit and feel OK now. I will skate them next.
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Shoutout to people who recommended Forums. Wide enough and actual fucking tanks.
Forum ADVs the current SW daily dose AND 20% bishes
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/dailydose.html
I have tried the Forums on. I did not find them very wide at all. Judging from this threat my feet are even wide among wide feet. I couldn't make joslins work either. I am currently skating NB 574 all coasts (one size up). At work I wear vans wayvees. They stretched out a bit and feel OK now. I will skate them next.
You must have some barney rubble ass feet as these jawns are very very wide.
(https://i.ibb.co/yYpht72/IMG-5343.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yYpht72)
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If anyone has both Maranas and Joslins, could you compare the width? The insoles lined up on top of each other would give a very good idea of the differences (if any).
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Shoutout to people who recommended Forums. Wide enough and actual fucking tanks.
Forum ADVs the current SW daily dose AND 20% bishes
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/dailydose.html
I have tried the Forums on. I did not find them very wide at all. Judging from this threat my feet are even wide among wide feet. I couldn't make joslins work either. I am currently skating NB 574 all coasts (one size up). At work I wear vans wayvees. They stretched out a bit and feel OK now. I will skate them next.
You must have some barney rubble ass feet as these jawns are very very wide.
(https://i.ibb.co/yYpht72/IMG-5343.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yYpht72)
Are these wider than the Tyshawns? They were definitely too tight around the toes for me.
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Shoutout to people who recommended Forums. Wide enough and actual fucking tanks.
Forum ADVs the current SW daily dose AND 20% bishes
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/dailydose.html
I have tried the Forums on. I did not find them very wide at all. Judging from this threat my feet are even wide among wide feet. I couldn't make joslins work either. I am currently skating NB 574 all coasts (one size up). At work I wear vans wayvees. They stretched out a bit and feel OK now. I will skate them next.
You must have some barney rubble ass feet as these jawns are very very wide.
(https://i.ibb.co/yYpht72/IMG-5343.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yYpht72)
Are these wider than the Tyshawns? They were definitely too tight around the toes for me.
I had to go a half size up with the tyshawns and even then the toe box shape was still slim even when broken in.
The forums (especially after you break them in) are so wide and roomy (also FLEXIBLE) so even if they 'fit' there is lots of pliability in the toe box. They're great...the only con to them is the non-gum sole version as Adidas as the slipperiest sole compounds I've ever skated so I don't touch anything but their gum offerings...
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Shoutout to people who recommended Forums. Wide enough and actual fucking tanks.
Forum ADVs the current SW daily dose AND 20% bishes
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/dailydose.html
I have tried the Forums on. I did not find them very wide at all. Judging from this threat my feet are even wide among wide feet. I couldn't make joslins work either. I am currently skating NB 574 all coasts (one size up). At work I wear vans wayvees. They stretched out a bit and feel OK now. I will skate them next.
You must have some barney rubble ass feet as these jawns are very very wide.
(https://i.ibb.co/yYpht72/IMG-5343.jpg) (https://ibb.co/yYpht72)
Are these wider than the Tyshawns? They were definitely too tight around the toes for me.
I had to go a half size up with the tyshawns and even then the toe box shape was still slim even when broken in.
The forums (especially after you break them in) are so wide and roomy (also FLEXIBLE) so even if they 'fit' there is lots of pliability in the toe box. They're great...the only con to them is the non-gum sole version as Adidas as the slipperiest sole compounds I've ever skated so I don't touch anything but their gum offerings...
They may just work then..... I guess I'll have to give them a shot. Always on the hunt for the perfect fitting shoe. Thanks for the tip about the sole.
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If anyone has both Maranas and Joslins, could you compare the width? The insoles lined up on top of each other would give a very good idea of the differences (if any).
This is just my experience with both those shoes, so other people might feel different. I have weird feet, wide in the front, semi wide in the middle and kinda narrow heels. But these shoes fit both very differently. From both of those shoes, the Joslin is definitely wider right out of the box. The Marana is kinda narrow across the toes although it didn't look so. Mid foot area from both shoes is kinda wide, yeah. In the Joslin I would need a 7.75 shoe size and in the Marana it would maybe be a 8.25. Both those sizes don't exist and I am looking for similar alternatives for the Joslin since I really like that shoe and feeling.
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If anyone has both Maranas and Joslins, could you compare the width? The insoles lined up on top of each other would give a very good idea of the differences (if any).
This is just my experience with both those shoes, so other people might feel different. I have weird feet, wide in the front, semi wide in the middle and kinda narrow heels. But these shoes fit both very differently. From both of those shoes, the Joslin is definitely wider right out of the box. The Marana is kinda narrow across the toes although it didn't look so. Mid foot area from both shoes is kinda wide, yeah. In the Joslin I would need a 7.75 shoe size and in the Marana it would maybe be a 8.25. Both those sizes don't exist and I am looking for similar alternatives for the Joslin since I really like that shoe and feeling.
This is really good info as someone who hasn't tried the Joslin. I'm curious if you have experience comparing the width of the toebox to the New Balance 272 or 288 Sport?
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If anyone has both Maranas and Joslins, could you compare the width? The insoles lined up on top of each other would give a very good idea of the differences (if any).
This is just my experience with both those shoes, so other people might feel different. I have weird feet, wide in the front, semi wide in the middle and kinda narrow heels. But these shoes fit both very differently. From both of those shoes, the Joslin is definitely wider right out of the box. The Marana is kinda narrow across the toes although it didn't look so. Mid foot area from both shoes is kinda wide, yeah. In the Joslin I would need a 7.75 shoe size and in the Marana it would maybe be a 8.25. Both those sizes don't exist and I am looking for similar alternatives for the Joslin since I really like that shoe and feeling.
This is really good info as someone who hasn't tried the Joslin. I'm curious if you have experience comparing the width of the toebox to the New Balance 272 or 288 Sport?
I haven't tried the 288, so I can't help there. But the NB# 272 was surprising. Ankle and mid foot felt really good. But it was way too tight above the toe and the toe room was insanely wide for my feet. Like 1 thumbs width on both sides of my forefoot. A fit like the NB# 306 but as a cupsole would be cool. At least for me.
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the creagers have a fairly wide toebox
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Blazers?
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Blazers?
No thanks
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thx for kookin me :D
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I've yet to make my way through this entire thread, but has anyone tried the wide vans, on their site they have a few pairs that can be purchased as a wide version. None of them are the skate models but I figured if they are actually wider I may be buying some shoegoo.
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I've yet to make my way through this entire thread, but has anyone tried the wide vans, on their site they have a few pairs that can be purchased as a wide version. None of them are the skate models but I figured if they are actually wider I may be buying some shoegoo.
I have wide old skools for daily use. They have plenty of room in midfoot and start of toebox but if you have really wide foot at the top of toebox i could see it being problematic. The insole is also garbage for skating ans glued/stitch so beware.
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Which shoe would be similar to the NB# 306 but as a cupsole? I think it is not a sizing problem for me, but instead a problem of the toe shape. I need something wide and round and the toes. Might get some 306 for everyday use now.
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Which shoe would be similar to the NB# 306 but as a cupsole? I think it is not a sizing problem for me, but instead a problem of the toe shape. I need something wide and round and the toes. Might get some 306 for everyday use now.
Based on what you mentioned in the other thread, you may want to try the Etnies Joslin. Pretty wide, not too long, extremely durable. Like I said, not sure how you feel about soletech, but these may just work for you.
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The NB# 480 toe is pretty wide. I mean, it's definitely not narrow. Opinions may vary, this is based on my personal experience.
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Which shoe would be similar to the NB# 306 but as a cupsole? I think it is not a sizing problem for me, but instead a problem of the toe shape. I need something wide and round and the toes. Might get some 306 for everyday use now.
Based on what you mentioned in the other thread, you may want to try the Etnies Joslin. Pretty wide, not too long, extremely durable. Like I said, not sure how you feel about soletech, but these may just work for you.
+1 for the Josl1n
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Which shoe would be similar to the NB# 306 but as a cupsole? I think it is not a sizing problem for me, but instead a problem of the toe shape. I need something wide and round and the toes. Might get some 306 for everyday use now.
Based on what you mentioned in the other thread, you may want to try the Etnies Joslin. Pretty wide, not too long, extremely durable. Like I said, not sure how you feel about soletech, but these may just work for you.
+1 for the Josl1n
MC Raps (Low and High) are also fairly wide in the toe and have more overall room in general. I'd recommend those from etnies as well
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If anyone has both Maranas and Joslins, could you compare the width? The insoles lined up on top of each other would give a very good idea of the differences (if any).
This is just my experience with both those shoes, so other people might feel different. I have weird feet, wide in the front, semi wide in the middle and kinda narrow heels. But these shoes fit both very differently. From both of those shoes, the Joslin is definitely wider right out of the box. The Marana is kinda narrow across the toes although it didn't look so. Mid foot area from both shoes is kinda wide, yeah. In the Joslin I would need a 7.75 shoe size and in the Marana it would maybe be a 8.25. Both those sizes don't exist and I am looking for similar alternatives for the Joslin since I really like that shoe and feeling.
Thank you! I'll have to get my hands on the Joslins.
Marana Fiberlite ran sligthly smaller than the regular Marana for, but not quite half a size. You could try 8.5 in those. The Fiberlite is all I would need if it only was a bit wider.
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Which shoe would be similar to the NB# 306 but as a cupsole? I think it is not a sizing problem for me, but instead a problem of the toe shape. I need something wide and round and the toes. Might get some 306 for everyday use now.
Have you tried the Puig? Similar silhouette up front with a really nice, secure fit around the heel.
(https://i.ibb.co/NymFJ2m/EB536-ADC-B445-4621-AF5-A-0-B653-A91-BB07.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NymFJ2m)
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Which shoe would be similar to the NB# 306 but as a cupsole? I think it is not a sizing problem for me, but instead a problem of the toe shape. I need something wide and round and the toes. Might get some 306 for everyday use now.
Have you tried the Puig? Similar silhouette up front with a really nice, secure fit around the heel.
(https://i.ibb.co/NymFJ2m/EB536-ADC-B445-4621-AF5-A-0-B653-A91-BB07.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NymFJ2m)
Are these confirmed for wide guys? Always been curious
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Do you guys think a wider toe box shape negatively affects flick? Is flick really such a thing or that big of a deal? It’s gotta be more about technique than shoe, right?
A wider shoe always feels way more stable and safe. I swear by 212s at this point but I just got some Vans Sports which aren’t as wide. Last Vans I had were Rowans and they were not wide enough. Seems like these Sports/Epochs are okay. Now I’m wondering if I’ll notice any flicking differences.
Like maybe at the start flick would feel off but like everything in life you make some small tweaks and get used to it. I don't think i've ever skated shoe that had awful flick for the whole life of the shoe.
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Do you guys think a wider toe box shape negatively affects flick? Is flick really such a thing or that big of a deal? It’s gotta be more about technique than shoe, right?
A wider shoe always feels way more stable and safe. I swear by 212s at this point but I just got some Vans Sports which aren’t as wide. Last Vans I had were Rowans and they were not wide enough. Seems like these Sports/Epochs are okay. Now I’m wondering if I’ll notice any flicking differences.
I think the shape of the toebox has more impact on the flick than the width of it, but plenty of other factors come into play as well.
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Which shoe would be similar to the NB# 306 but as a cupsole? I think it is not a sizing problem for me, but instead a problem of the toe shape. I need something wide and round and the toes. Might get some 306 for everyday use now.
Have you tried the Puig? Similar silhouette up front with a really nice, secure fit around the heel.
(https://i.ibb.co/NymFJ2m/EB536-ADC-B445-4621-AF5-A-0-B653-A91-BB07.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NymFJ2m)
Are these confirmed for wide guys? Always been curious
They don’t look like they’d work, would like to be proved wrong, though.
I never got to try them, but the Puig 1s looked good. I’ve been off Adidas for years, feels like nothing fits properly.
Speaking of Adidas though, can anyone recommend the Campus ADVs? They look a little roomy. The first run of Skate Campuses around 09/10 did me well.
I too enjoyed the original run. Bought the Campus x Pop Trading at a wicked discount on a flyer. Not terrible for chilling but i definitely wont be skating them. Barefoot/thin socks only, the footprint of the sole is contoured for an average foot at most imo. More than happy to grab another pair of forum 84s
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How chunky are the Forum 84s on a guy like you and me? I saw the non skate version on a girl with baggy pants and they looked kinda cool.
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I ordered some cheap Omen hi a while back that turned out to be massive, too long but the widest skate shoe I've put on. I'd have to go down half or a full size to skate them but I suspect they'd still be plenty wide. Short round toe like a 212 or sk8 hi.
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How chunky are the Forum 84s on a guy like you and me? I saw the non skate version on a girl with baggy pants and they looked kinda cool.
The forum (skate or non-skate) are a surprisingly trim looking shoe on most people. The tongue isn't supper puffy like SB Dunks. Same with the collar: just enough and not super thick. The overall silhouette is more athletic than it is a thick potato. In smaller sizes they do tend to look pretty proportional, baggy or straight fit pants.
The sole looks thick but doesn't feel too thick and they won't seem be big DC bricks on your feet.
I have a pair of non-skate Mid Forums and I love how they look with jeans
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Having just found a 'wide' x-trainer in the Nike Air Zoom TR 1, that isn't tagged as 'wide' I started poking around and landed on the Leo's show; it has the same forefoot shape as the TR1 and is suuuuper comfy in width (it's a pretty wide shoe even midfoot) and that react foam in teh sole; I'm going to have to wear puffy socks.
They (and the TR1) are on par width-wise with Nike's Downshifter 13 (a runner that comes in wide sizes) in the 10.5 'wide' size; for the record, the Downshifter is the first 'wide' shoe I've ever tried on/used.
If you can get over whatever stigma you might have, I'd highly suggest trying on the leos for wide feet.
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Strike mvmnt just came out with a skate shoe. Ryan Gallant on their instagram
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1-UqvZyaof/?igsh=MWRlN3dhZ3VkZXo1Yw==
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^^ Looks like shit flik if you ask me
However, as something that wears shit like this for working out, I'm totally down to try them...but not for $150...
I've a recent post that goes over this...skaters won't pay cross-trainer prices for how fast these are gonna wear out via skating.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=128874.msg4139490#msg4139490
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Strike mvmnt just came out with a skate shoe. Ryan Gallant on their instagram
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1-UqvZyaof/?igsh=MWRlN3dhZ3VkZXo1Yw==
^^ Looks like shit flik if you ask me
However, as something that wears shit like this for working out, I'm totally down to try them...but not for $150...
I've a recent post that goes over this...skaters won't pay cross-trainer prices for how fast these are gonna wear out via skating.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=128874.msg4139490#msg4139490
I suppose it will depend on what rubber compound/formula the sole is made of and whether it marries with grip tape. They are expensive though.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C1-UqvZyaof/?igsh=MWRlN3dhZ3VkZXo1Yw==
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^^ Looks like shit flik if you ask me
However, as something that wears shit like this for working out, I'm totally down to try them...but not for $150...
I've a recent post that goes over this...skaters won't pay cross-trainer prices for how fast these are gonna wear out via skating.
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=128874.msg4139490#msg4139490
I suppose it will depend on what rubber compound/formula the sole is made of and whether it marries with grip tape. They are expensive though.
I'm speaking of shape only - a square shoe won't flick as well as a rounded or pointy shoe, that's why there aren't any core or big box brand doing barefoot style skate shoes.
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Are the New Balance wide shoes out now? I looked on the site and saw these come in 2E. https://www.newbalance.com/numeric-skateboarding-shoes/?prefn1=width&prefv1=Men+Wide+%282E%29
(https://i.ibb.co/nMVzRKb/Picture1.png) (https://ibb.co/nMVzRKb)
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Are the New Balance wide shoes out now? I looked on the site and saw these come in 2E. https://www.newbalance.com/numeric-skateboarding-shoes/?prefn1=width&prefv1=Men+Wide+%282E%29
(https://i.ibb.co/nMVzRKb/Picture1.png) (https://ibb.co/nMVzRKb)
Initial reviews suggest they’re not significantly wider than their normal counterparts.
440 v2 wides next month.
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Are the New Balance wide shoes out now? I looked on the site and saw these come in 2E. https://www.newbalance.com/numeric-skateboarding-shoes/?prefn1=width&prefv1=Men+Wide+%282E%29
(https://i.ibb.co/nMVzRKb/Picture1.png) (https://ibb.co/nMVzRKb)
Initial reviews suggest they’re not significantly wider than their normal counterparts.
440 v2 wides next month.
Ah ok, so these aren't the new wide shoes that are supposed to be released this year. I've been waiting on those but wasn't sure when they were supposed to drop. Thanks!
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I was looking at New Balance shoes in a skateshop today, and the 574 (the one on the right in that pic) looked to have a pretty decent width at the front. Don't think it was the wider version.
(https://i.imgur.com/IPeKLIf.jpg)
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(https://strike-mvmnt.com/cdn/shop/files/strike-mvmnt-transit-streettrainer-camo-white-gum-2_ea49650a-db03-494a-a096-804b4b737b66_1024x.png?v=1704996335)
These shoes endorsed by Ryan Gallant have some potential. Never heard of them before, but here's a link to https://strike-mvmnt.com/collections/run-train-travel/products/transit-street-trainer-camo-white-gum (https://strike-mvmnt.com/collections/run-train-travel/products/transit-street-trainer-camo-white-gum) Transit Street Trainer shoe.
As far as NB# the 272 and 574vulc seem pretty wide to me before the 2E version. Haven't ordered the 2E version because I'm more of a cupsole guy (and injured) but according to NB specs they should be 4mm wider all around. So the shape is going to appear mostly the same from a photo I would think.
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Are the New Balance wide shoes out now? I looked on the site and saw these come in 2E. https://www.newbalance.com/numeric-skateboarding-shoes/?prefn1=width&prefv1=Men+Wide+%282E%29
(https://i.ibb.co/nMVzRKb/Picture1.png) (https://ibb.co/nMVzRKb)
Initial reviews suggest they’re not significantly wider than their normal counterparts.
440 v2 wides next month.
Ah ok, so these aren't the new wide shoes that are supposed to be released this year. I've been waiting on those but wasn't sure when they were supposed to drop. Thanks!
They are, at least that is what is up on the NB site (just click the W-I-D-E button)
https://www.newbalance.com/pd/nb-numeric-272/NM272V1-45853.html?dwvar_NM272V1-45853_style=NM272GGB#dwvar_NM272V1-45853_style=NM272GGB&dwvar_NM272V1-45853_width=2E&pid=NM272V1-45853&quantity=1
The width issues are discussed over in the NB# Containment thread:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=89457.msg4138562;topicseen#msg4138562
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Ain't no way i'm gonna skate shoes that company calls "street trainers"
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I was looking at New Balance shoes in a skateshop today, and the 574 (the one on the right in that pic) looked to have a pretty decent width at the front. Don't think it was the wider version.
(https://i.imgur.com/IPeKLIf.jpg)
I have bunions. 808s feel super tight in a 10.5 and the 574s feel perfect so I'd say definitely more room across the bunion area.
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I'm just gonna throw out that narrow toe boxes do not flick as well as slightly rounded/squared toeboxes. Agree or don't, that's up to you. I'm pulling from my 18 years of experience skating.
For example, any Cons shoe that uses the CTAS sole (their main sole, you know the one) has such a narrow shape to it that your flick regularly misses because there's not enough shoe across your toes to catch the board to initiate the flick. You get used to it, sure, but it's not ideal. Shoes should have toe boxes closer to those Strike Mvmt things, but need to not look at as barefoot shoe ugly as they currently do.
NB 440, 808, Joslin, Marana, Manteca 4, KSL, Dunk, Fastbreak, Silo SC, etc. all have more rounded/squarer toe boxes that actually catch the board when flicking and don't cram your toes awkwardly (unless you get the wrong size).
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I noticed vans sells a wide version of the old skool classic now. Has anyone tried them yet? Old skools are a little wider by default and fit me alright but a little extra room couldn't hurt. As someone that still prefers the classics over the skate versions I'll probably end up trying them soon.
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I got a pair of wide Old Skools from their Customs line, would recommend them, just enough extra width to feel better than the regular ones. Just be careful about the materials, I assumed mine would have a suede toe/heel like most Old Skools, but since I didn’t pay extra for suede they were all canvas.
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I got a pair of wide Old Skools from their Customs line, would recommend them, just enough extra width to feel better than the regular ones. Just be careful about the materials, I assumed mine would have a suede toe/heel like most Old Skools, but since I didn’t pay extra for suede they were all canvas.
I was just gonna get the basic black/white so the material shouldn’t be an issue. I might order some this weekend.
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Probably the only review we're going to get with these ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx6i57UA2xY&t=312s
I still can't figure out why you want one shoe that does both; I train and skate...and while lots of skate shoes work for lifting (because they are flat) not many training shoes work for skate...if at all...but if you are skating these hard, you are going to shred the shit out of them and wrecking the grip...
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I noticed vans sells a wide version of the old skool classic now. Has anyone tried them yet? Old skools are a little wider by default and fit me alright but a little extra room couldn't hurt. As someone that still prefers the classics over the skate versions I'll probably end up trying them soon.
don't think there is much point in trying them. vans are some of the narrowest around and someone reached out to them directly and the difference in the wide is an extra 1/8" which is basically nothing
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I noticed vans sells a wide version of the old skool classic now. Has anyone tried them yet? Old skools are a little wider by default and fit me alright but a little extra room couldn't hurt. As someone that still prefers the classics over the skate versions I'll probably end up trying them soon.
don't think there is much point in trying them. vans are some of the narrowest around and someone reached out to them directly and the difference in the wide is an extra 1/8" which is basically nothing
Vans narrowest around? Either something is majorly changed or this statement is total bs
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I noticed vans sells a wide version of the old skool classic now. Has anyone tried them yet? Old skools are a little wider by default and fit me alright but a little extra room couldn't hurt. As someone that still prefers the classics over the skate versions I'll probably end up trying them soon.
don't think there is much point in trying them. vans are some of the narrowest around and someone reached out to them directly and the difference in the wide is an extra 1/8" which is basically nothing
yep they are super narrow. take it from someone that needs an actually wide toebox. Vans are only recommended by people with pretty much normal feet that think "sizing 1 up" solves the issue. These people have never seen actual wide toes
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Rowan 2s are not narrow in the least.
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Rowan 2s are not narrow in the least.
they aren't offered in wides. i tried some anyway and they had some of the narrowest toes of any skate shoes i've tried
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If you’ve tried on Sk8-lows/mids/his and they’re not wide enough, then please report back when you find a skate shoe that’s wider.
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almost all the E brands are wider in their regular sizes. Es, etnies, emerica. Es has lots that are way wider
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If you’ve tried on Sk8-lows/mids/his and they’re not wide enough, then please report back when you find a skate shoe that’s wider.
all new balance are wider whether wide or not. globe is wider. osiris has wider. lakai griffin is wider. i've tried almost every shoe mentioned in this thread aside from maybe 1 or 2 and vans are narrower than pretty much every other one in this thread. maybe equal to a few of them. they are literally some of the narrowest skate shoes around
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I noticed vans sells a wide version of the old skool classic now. Has anyone tried them yet? Old skools are a little wider by default and fit me alright but a little extra room couldn't hurt. As someone that still prefers the classics over the skate versions I'll probably end up trying them soon.
don't think there is much point in trying them. vans are some of the narrowest around and someone reached out to them directly and the difference in the wide is an extra 1/8" which is basically nothing
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If you’ve tried on Sk8-lows/mids/his and they’re not wide enough, then please report back when you find a skate shoe that’s wider.
all new balance are wider whether wide or not. globe is wider. osiris has wider. lakai griffin is wider. i've tried almost every shoe mentioned in this thread aside from maybe 1 or 2 and vans are narrower than pretty much every other one in this thread. maybe equal to a few of them. they are literally some of the narrowest skate shoes around
Standard vans are for sure wider than what most companies offer. Maybe your foot shape just doesn't fits vans very well? I haven't tried osiris or globes since the early 00's so idk about them but I had some new balance 574 skate shoes and they were surprisingly really narrow. So even some new balances can be on the narrow side.
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I noticed vans sells a wide version of the old skool classic now. Has anyone tried them yet? Old skools are a little wider by default and fit me alright but a little extra room couldn't hurt. As someone that still prefers the classics over the skate versions I'll probably end up trying them soon.
don't think there is much point in trying them. vans are some of the narrowest around and someone reached out to them directly and the difference in the wide is an extra 1/8" which is basically nothing
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If you’ve tried on Sk8-lows/mids/his and they’re not wide enough, then please report back when you find a skate shoe that’s wider.
all new balance are wider whether wide or not. globe is wider. osiris has wider. lakai griffin is wider. i've tried almost every shoe mentioned in this thread aside from maybe 1 or 2 and vans are narrower than pretty much every other one in this thread. maybe equal to a few of them. they are literally some of the narrowest skate shoes around
Standard vans are for sure wider than what most companies offer. Maybe your foot shape just doesn't fits vans very well? I haven't tried osiris or globes since the early 00's so idk about them but I had some new balance 574 skate shoes and they were surprisingly really narrow. So even some new balances can be on the narrow side.
some people need the width around the back of their foot. i'm only concerned with around the toes which is where i need the width. This is where almost all shoe companies design their shoes contrary to basic human anatomy aside from most of the "barefoot / minimalist" style shoes.
Like I said I've tried Vans and literally every shoe in this thread and they are narrower in the toes than almost all of them. I have a spreadsheet with all my findings and I've been searching for shoes to skateboard in for 8 years now. I made this thread 4 years ago and there still aren't proper wide shoes for skateboarders. It's ridiculously hard to even get a simple Wide sizing and impossible to get 3E 4E or 5E or even just an anatomically shaped toebox of any kind
If you don't believe me most shoe companies offer a bottom photo of the shoe. You can compare the shots of Vans vs almost any other shoe using a line and ruler in Photoshop, or just overlay them and make one 50% transparent and see that width across the toes is pitiful in the Vans and worse than 99% of other shoes.
I give them props for at least offering a Wide size now which is something 99% of other companies don't do, but when the difference is, by their own admission, 1/8" on a shoe that already runs FAR narrower than any other shoe, it's hard to imagine it being anything other than a money grab
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Anyone ever seen these wide as shit converse before? I took a picture next to my slip on’s of the same size. Every cons shoe I’ve ever tried on was super narrow and pointy, these have the biggest toe box I’ve ever seen, it’s like a clown shoe. I found them at thrift store today.
(https://i.ibb.co/Qc0bkbx/IMG-7828.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Qc0bkbx)
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Lots of cons style barefoots out there, can’t comment on how they skate….
https://anyasreviews.com/15-barefoot-sneakers-that-are-better-than-vans/
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Some barefoot options
https://www.weakshoes.com/r67betaripton
I would totally try these if they weren't $$$$
https://www.barebarics.com/barefoot-sneakers-barebarics-wave-white-black/
I've been using the UA Tri-Base Reign 6 (mouthful) for the gym and I gotta say, the toe box shape would totally work, not too square like most BF shoes but wide enough where it counts.
(https://i.ibb.co/YRLdSDS/Screenshot-2024-03-18-184934.png) (https://ibb.co/YRLdSDS)
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Damn I was about to put some money down for those Weak Shoes but they only make them up to size 12. Weak indeed.
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Feelgrounds is having a clearance sale...I got the leather sneakers but haven't tried skating em yet. Strictly for if you like lots of board feel though.
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Probably the only review we're going to get with these ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx6i57UA2xY&t=312s
rad rat looking better than ever damn
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Question: if a company made REALLY WIDE skate shoes (designed for skateboarding) how many here would buy them?
Thinking of something shaped like this Be Lenka:
(https://i.imgur.com/GmyZOYH.png)
(These exist but they cost $150 and the sole is hella thin)
Would you want suede, canvas, or other vegan material?
4 eyelet or 6 eyelet?
Cupsole or vulcanized?
Other feature?
How cheap would they have to be? (150 is too high for me. Might buy at 90. Would definitely buy 2 at 75)
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Question: if a company made REALLY WIDE skate shoes (designed for skateboarding) how many here would buy them?
Thinking of something shaped like this Be Lenka:
(https://i.imgur.com/GmyZOYH.png)
(These exist but they cost $150 and the sole is hella thin)
Would you want suede, canvas, or other vegan material?
4 eyelet or 6 eyelet?
Cupsole or vulcanized?
Other feature?
How cheap would they have to be? (150 is too high for me. Might buy at 90. Would definitely buy 2 at 75)
i directly know at least 50 people that would buy
personally, i would basically want a high top es accel og with toes like the pic you posted. oh and add on that shoe lace cover that andy anderson put on his new shoes. that would be the ultimate skate shoe
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Been riding some Adidas Noras and damn, they must have measured my feet when I was sleeping, it is the perfect shape for my foot. A bit more chunky in the front than what I am used too due to the multiple overlapping layers of material but so far they're holding up great as well.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C5W99MJJk2t/
This dude is skating the Xero Kelso shoes :o
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C5W99MJJk2t/
This dude is skating the Xero Kelso shoes :o
and has for some time. One of his IG posts is 100 kick flips, so I guess they are decent for general skating.
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I would rather stop skating than skate those
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Panel-wise they look better than most skate shoes.
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Etnies Aurelien
The toe box is really wide. Only toe box that felt wider to me was the NB# 272.
The Aurelien Cupsole feels very thin and the shoe is also more on the wider side in the midfoot and around the ankles. Shoe feels light in Hand and light on foot although not as supportive as a Joslin for example. I try these for a few days at home, otherwise I will return them. There is a Michelin Aurelien out now but I can't speak about those. But something like a Joslin with a slightly thinner Michelin outsole could be really nice.
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Etnies Aurelien
The toe box is really wide. Only toe box that felt wider to me was the NB# 272.
The Aurelien Cupsole feels very thin and the shoe is also more on the wider side in the midfoot and around the ankles. Shoe feels light in Hand and light on foot although not as supportive as a Joslin for example. I try these for a few days at home, otherwise I will return them. There is a Michelin Aurelien out now but I can't speak about those. But something like a Joslin with a slightly thinner Michelin outsole could be really nice.
+1 to this. Not Forum wide but good shoe for wide footers out there.
Too bad i rolled the shit out of my ankle in those so not really feeling them anymore.
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Etnies Aurelien
The toe box is really wide. Only toe box that felt wider to me was the NB# 272.
The Aurelien Cupsole feels very thin and the shoe is also more on the wider side in the midfoot and around the ankles. Shoe feels light in Hand and light on foot although not as supportive as a Joslin for example. I try these for a few days at home, otherwise I will return them. There is a Michelin Aurelien out now but I can't speak about those. But something like a Joslin with a slightly thinner Michelin outsole could be really nice.
Too bad i rolled the shit out of my ankle in those so not really feeling them anymore.
The side E logo is as offensive as the Cariuma one imo. It's just plain ugly and I'd never touch this shoe because of it.