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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: shingles on April 22, 2020, 03:52:07 AM
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I used to love Vans for their iconic and timeless shoe-designs.
But nowadays it seems like, theyre trying to jump on the tech bandwagon. Ii bet a lot of you like the new shoes they have put out in the recent years, but in my opinion they just lost their iconic design.
The last realease I was really stoked on, were the Rowles SPVs:
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dauRm5NsAaQ/TnGbVYWMhpI/AAAAAAAAAgI/OTiJQjGzbkI/s1600/vans-rowleyspv-view.jpg)
and the Rowley Solos:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/00/9d/ed/009ded6fce6b0e5b73d3d604fbcbba53.jpg)
The new designs just seem to have lost their classic feel. One horrible mention is the Berle Pro:
(https://images.blue-tomato.com/is/image/bluetomato/304070510_front.jpg-7ozPUIwTo7grnNbohd6cP0HhbYM/Berle+Pro+Skateschuhe.jpg?$b8$)
And the AVE shoe would be very sick, but why did they have to choose this weird material for the sole and the outers?
(https://images.blue-tomato.com/is/image/bluetomato/304070529_front.jpg-lXiX9cgkg2WTg9sibEEhnRSwKkU/AVE+Pro+Skate+Shoes.jpg?$b8$)
I wish they could just stick to their calssic waffle cup soles and the timeless vans design. But with shoes like this:
(https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/vans-slip-on-exp-pro-test-review-preview-999x666.jpg)
or this:
(https://www.kicksonfire.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/SP20-VANSLTD-HOCKEY-AUTHHIPRO-3-565x372.jpeg?x27652)
they just disappoint me with every new release and I went back to converse.
Converse somehow keeps sticking to their roots and good designs...
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Seems like they still have plenty of the classic designs youre talking about. I mean those two you posted just seemed like riffs on old skools and eras? Those AA are literally a high top version of one of the first shoes they put out. I did not like the look but the AVE's were probably the best feeling vans I've had in years.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Vans/catpage-VANS.html
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Seems like they still have plenty of the classic designs youre talking about. I mean those two you posted just seemed like riffs on old skools and eras? Those AA are literally a high top version of one of the first shoes they put out. I did not like the look but the AVE's were probably the best feeling vans I've had in years.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Vans/catpage-VANS.html
They still do have some of the iconic designs, but they usually fuck it up with either disgusting materials or a gross looking toecap. I know they still offer the old models such as the OldSkool or the Era but I wish they could release something like the SPV or the SOLOS...
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Seems like they still have plenty of the classic designs youre talking about. I mean those two you posted just seemed like riffs on old skools and eras? Those AA are literally a high top version of one of the first shoes they put out. I did not like the look but the AVE's were probably the best feeling vans I've had in years.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Vans/catpage-VANS.html
They still do have some of the iconic designs, but they usually fuck it up with either disgusting materials or a gross looking toecap. I know they still offer the old models such as the OldSkool or the Era but I wish they could release something like the SPV or the SOLOS...
Not gonna defend the style of the new shoes but they definitely feel better now than what I remember from the era you're talking about.
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i also don't like most of the vans pro cupsoles (imo the best looking cupsole vans isn't even a skate model, see https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/TKKDDN-HERO?$583x583$ (https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/TKKDDN-HERO?$583x583$)), but i'm glad that they aren't just slapping new uppers on that pro vulc sole and calling it a day, it's cool that they put out bulkier, more "tech" shoes too. i mean they aren't replacing the classics with them so why does it bother you?
also, the authentic high is just an authentic, but higher. i wouldn't say they're all that ugly, i'd skate them if i could get them for cheap.
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I bet theyre all pretty good for skating, but they just dont look good in my opinion.
Also a big thing is the prize of the shoes.
here in europe you pay up to 140 for a pair of AVEs, 130 for a pair of Berle Pros
but you pay 90 for a Nike SB Blazer, 90-100 for some CTAs Pro or 100 for a Busenitz Pro
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I bet theyre all pretty good for skating, but they just dont look good in my opinion.
Also a big thing is the prize of the shoes.
here in europe you pay up to 140 for a pair of AVEs, 130 for a pair of Berle Pros
i know g, i live in europe too ;D although they're a bit cheaper here, it's ~100 euro for the aves and like 90 for the berles. still too much for me, but i always manage to find classic vans for about 20-30 euros so i don't really care for the prices of those newer skate models as i'd never buy them
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Before they started making all these more tech models all I heard was vans were taking it too easy and making the same basic vulc shoes. Then people started complaining about the new models and saying it's like the early 2000s when they made a bunch of wild tech shoes.
Personally I love the classics and I like the new AVEs, Rowans, etc. I think Vans are doing quite well financially at the moment(at least before this pandemic anyway) and are trying to diversify their shoes to solidify their position in skateboarding. Their trying to compete against Nike, Converse, Adidas, New Balance. They really can't rely on making simple looking vulc shoes and hoping that people buy them. With getting Reynolds and Birdman, I think Vans is finally realizing that if they want to compete against the big guys they gotta act like one themselves.
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This is only the beginning, vans will definitely see this tech resurgence through a second time. Plus, both of those Rowleys you posted were easily the most uncomfortable ones they released. Rowley OG's or nothing
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I dunno. I love the classics but my ankles do not as much. I can do half cabs, but eras kill my feet. Haven't worn old skools in about 7 years so I'm not sure. I kind of do like the Ave Pro. I have been pondering wearing Vans again after I run out of adidas. I wish the pro shoes had a bit of variety on look though. I feel (and this is just me skimming the site) that a lot look the same, generally speaking.
Are the AVE worth it? Can't imagine paying 100 bucks for Vans, just based on how much I've torn Vans up in my life.
I like the Rowleys, TNT, and Rowan. I am 100% not a fan of those toecaps , like on Berle shoe. Reminds me of ex-girlfriends Skechers n shit.
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Picked up the suede AA authentic hi’s, and they are comfy as fuck. I haven’t skated them yet but they seem like they would be durable. It’s been awhile since I’ve skated Vans and those AVEs look sick as fuck. Just couldn’t imagine dropping 100 on Vans tho....
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the spvs were probably the worst vans shoe i ever skated, next to a defect pair of stage fours
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I dunno. I love the classics but my ankles do not as much. I can do half cabs, but eras kill my feet. Haven't worn old skools in about 7 years so I'm not sure. I kind of do like the Ave Pro. I have been pondering wearing Vans again after I run out of adidas. I wish the pro shoes had a bit of variety on look though. I feel (and this is just me skimming the site) that a lot look the same, generally speaking.
Are the AVE worth it? Can't imagine paying 100 bucks for Vans, just based on how much I've torn Vans up in my life.
I like the Rowleys, TNT, and Rowan. I am 100% not a fan of those toecaps , like on Berle shoe. Reminds me of ex-girlfriends Skechers n shit.
Most Vans look alike and it’s because of their simplistic design and iconic jazz stripe. The difference is the constructions and building a shoe that skates different from the other. They’re also not calling it in by slapping all the builds on a construction (ex. Throwing a sk8-hi on a wafflecup or waffle control). They’re mostly building a shoe for the rider or trying to made a different shoe. They feel different and it kinda comes down to how tech the shoe you want. Like the Walker and Ave are on the the hide side and then you have the Rowan which is a Vulc and the Berle which is lower to the ground (a pebble magnet) but, a cup sole, and it includes a sock like fit.
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To everyone wondering about the AVE Pros, I bought a pair and absolutely love them. I only skate cupsole and these are definitely some of the best cupsole I’ve skated in a while and all of the tech they put into the upper seems to be holding up good for me. Granted, I don’t go through shoes very fast, but some people have shared their experiences in the other shoe threads and they seem to align with mine.
In my opinion, they’re worth it. Especially if you can order from a local shop right now.
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It’s funny how the Rowan looks like Rowan took the time to come up with a shoe with the design team while the Berle looks like the design department came up with something and gave it to him.
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It’s funny how the Rowan looks like Rowan took the time to come up with a shoe with the design team while the Berle looks like the design department came up with something and gave it to him.
I was thinking the opposite - Berle has a unique sole design. Rowan's shoe has the same thing as team models but they're pretending its new tech by changing the name to pop cush and claiming a new rubber formula (which if it were different/better, they'd use it on all the models, not just his.)
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It’s funny how the Rowan looks like Rowan took the time to come up with a shoe with the design team while the Berle looks like the design department came up with something and gave it to him.
I see what you’re saying but I feel like the sole design was more Vans coming up with it than Elijah. He seems to just skate the authentics now that the promotion for his shoe died down. The Rowan even though the sole is the same looks like a Half Cab with the TNT SG mixed into it. That’s something Rowan said himself in interviews.
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I bet theyre all pretty good for skating, but they just dont look good in my opinion.
Also a big thing is the prize of the shoes.
here in europe you pay up to 140 for a pair of AVEs, 130 for a pair of Berle Pros
but you pay 90 for a Nike SB Blazer, 90-100 for some CTAs Pro or 100 for a Busenitz Pro
I noticed this visiting Germany, I always wear Vans, but they're the most expensive of all the skate shoes over there, I'd probably be tempted to skate in Blazer GTs instead.
In the UK you're looking at £55 - £70 for Vans Pro line, then Nike & Adidas are, for the most part, £70 upward.
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It’s funny how the Rowan looks like Rowan took the time to come up with a shoe with the design team while the Berle looks like the design department came up with something and gave it to him.
Berle shoe actually looks like there was some thought put into it, (shit thoughts nonetheless), but at least they tried something there. Didn’t work like they expected tho and for sure Berle doesn’t seem too stoked on it (I wouldn’t be)
Rowans shoe is run-of-the-mill Vans design. The only thing that separates that shoe from being a team model is the name on the tongue and the extra $$$ you pay for that. Rowan seems to enjoy the shoe so at least that.
To the OP, why do you want a Rowley solo when you have a Era pro, it’s 90% the same shoe. Also, you have stuff like the Chima pro in that SPV vein.
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/chima-ferguson-pro-black-true-white#pr-container
I think it’s actually cool that Vans has a quite wide spectrum of offering for skaters, from techy (ave pro, ultrarange pro) to low tech (Chima pro, authentic pro)
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Picked up the suede AA authentic hi’s, and they are comfy as fuck. I haven’t skated them yet but they seem like they would be durable. It’s been awhile since I’ve skated Vans and those AVEs look sick as fuck. Just couldn’t imagine dropping 100 on Vans tho....
which color? Pic? Is the collar padded at all
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Popcush is a revised version of ultracush so that is new tech.
Stick sole or whatever is probably mostly marketing, yes.
Feel like the Rowan’s have enough to seperate it from the old skool/era pro lineup. The foxing is different and at a diff height. The suede is better. The collar holds you in better with better liner material.
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The waffle-cup sole is damn good, hope they continue to use it. Anyone know if they will be doing more color-ways of the Rowley rapid-weld? It's a great shoe.
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Picked up the suede AA authentic hi’s, and they are comfy as fuck. I haven’t skated them yet but they seem like they would be durable. It’s been awhile since I’ve skated Vans and those AVEs look sick as fuck. Just couldn’t imagine dropping 100 on Vans tho....
I have the blue canvas. It’s not padded, it is a bit stiff and the popcush feels nicer
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Idc about this thread but I need to say that Berle pros are the biggest piece of shit in the last years.
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rowley spv sucked
rowley squares sucked more
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rowley spv sucked
rowley squares sucked more
SPV were socks with laces, they actually looked like a ballerina dancing shoe.
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Never knew how people skated in Van's and chucks. Shits like being barefoot
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AVE is too damn high
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How many of these are cupsole. Did not know that about the AVE. I'd pay higher for cupsole, but any vulcanized shit i'm paying 65 max brah
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Have you noticed how Vans old schools are the shoe of choice for 14-year-old girls around the world, and have been for years? When the inevitable backlash to that finally comes (the next cool thing is always somewhat opposite of the last cool thing) Vans shoes will be about as popular as they were in the late 90s, unless they can create momentum around something else. So Vans isn't pushing the classics and they don't really need to push those since they're selling like crazy.
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SPVs sucked ballzack, fell apart so fast.
AVEs skate great; sole doesn't phase me too much - really surprised. Wasn't too fond of the toebox crease, it dug in at times. I slept on the dress blues and ended up with the greens/Forrest Night; it's unlike anything in the rest of their lineup.
Didn't like the Berles, sizing felt off (too long, just like the Crockett 2s and TNT protos - it's like those three were made off the same base model or something.
Rowan is a very classic take on (like was said before) the Halfcab and the TNT SG (one of my favorite models).
Still want to skate the 112 mid and the classic mid.
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
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The Chima 1 Pro
Still has that classic Vans design
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
Lookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
Why when you can get Chimas at that price?
https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
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The 112 mids are nice
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I think the Rowley Solos were my favorite Vans shoe ever. I suppose an Era Pro does get me most of the way there, but I have to do a Customs order to get blue suede so I end up paying $90 for fancy Eras vs $50-60 for Solos. I liked that Solos looked sorta Old Skool-ish with the toe cap, and not as many people were wearing them.
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
Why when you can get Chimas at that price?
https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
Because they’re cup sole?
Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
youve worn? If theyre trash theyre trash haha. Haven’t seen any reviews really.
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I get not liking some of their newer more tech models, but where on earth are you getting the idea that there's a shortage of their "classic designs"? Half the wall at most skateshops I go to are their pro classics.
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Solo’s and SPV’s were my favorites
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
Why when you can get Chimas at that price?
https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
Because they’re cup sole?
Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.
Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.
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oh shit its 40% off that sale price
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
Why when you can get Chimas at that price?
https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
Because they’re cup sole?
Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.
Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.
I'm curious to hear about them. I should take the plunge too at $25 but I just bought some shit this past week and I need to calm down.
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
Why when you can get Chimas at that price?
https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
Because they’re cup sole?
Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.
Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.
If it means anything a random video popped up on YouTube with a kid skating this for the first day.
http://youtu.be/dHxPTPLr_bw
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
Why when you can get Chimas at that price?
https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
Because they’re cup sole?
Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.
Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.
If it means anything a random video popped up on YouTube with a kid skating this for the first day.
http://youtu.be/dHxPTPLr_bw
yep, this too
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/en/vans-slip-on-exp-pro-wear-test-review/
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
Why when you can get Chimas at that price?
https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
Because they’re cup sole?
Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.
Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.
If it means anything a random video popped up on YouTube with a kid skating this for the first day.
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/en/vans-slip-on-exp-pro-wear-test-review/
So it isn’t bad. I’m honestly more concerned about the mesh. They do look more like chillers.
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i loved those spv's. might not buy them nowadays, but i definitely skated 4-5 pairs when they came out.
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I'm all about the half cabs. As long as they keep making those they can put out whatever they want to corner the market.
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Cross Post from Tate in the Up Coming Shoe Release Thread
Vans Spring/Summer ‘20
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There are your new Vans Models / Colorways
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They need to start making non-clear soles for the AVE. It limits the good colorways to only make them translucent blue.
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We needed a vans thread 👍👍
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They need to start making non-clear soles for the AVE. It limits the good colorways to only make them translucent blue.
The outsole is not always translucent blue. It’s the midsole foam that is and it shines through. I believe they kept this strategy of clear soles to show that new tech and make the shoe feel more valuable. If you cant really see it, its a bit hard to justify 110 for vans that just look “normal”.
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I just want a mostly black colorway of the new AVE. They had that one in the beginning with the white stripe, and then an all black colorway.
Bring back the white stripe at least?!
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The Rowley SPV was great but boy did you know about it if you landed primo. That said, I used to skate Gravis all the time and there wasn't much difference between how thick their soles where. I'd love another pair. The SOLOS were banging too. I've got one pair of the dress blues colourway left that I'm tempted to skate but I also want to hang onto 'em because I can't imagine I'll find another pair.
I haven't bought the new AVE shoe but I've tried them on and they feel incredible. Really slim but feel super supportive. I'm not that into cupsoles but that's one shoe I'd make the switch from vulc for.
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I bet theyre all pretty good for skating, but they just dont look good in my opinion.
Also a big thing is the prize of the shoes.
here in europe you pay up to 140 for a pair of AVEs, 130 for a pair of Berle Pros
but you pay 90 for a Nike SB Blazer, 90-100 for some CTAs Pro or 100 for a Busenitz Pro
I noticed this visiting Germany, I always wear Vans, but they're the most expensive of all the skate shoes over there, I'd probably be tempted to skate in Blazer GTs instead.
In the UK you're looking at £55 - £70 for Vans Pro line, then Nike & Adidas are, for the most part, £70 upward.
don't know what blackmarket you were shopping at, but vans aren't the most expensive shoes in germany.
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The Rowley SPV was great but boy did you know about it if you landed primo. That said, I used to skate Gravis all the time and there wasn't much difference between how thick their soles where. I'd love another pair. The SOLOS were banging too. I've got one pair of the dress blues colourway left that I'm tempted to skate but I also want to hang onto 'em because I can't imagine I'll find another pair.
I haven't bought the new AVE shoe but I've tried them on and they feel incredible. Really slim but feel super supportive. I'm not that into cupsoles but that's one shoe I'd make the switch from vulc for.
That’s accurate: slim/supportive. Not really padded. Mine lasted really long without showing signs of wear. Didn’t look like I skated them, which can be kinda nice to be able to wear a shoe out to the store without looking liking the dad that probably can’t skate all that great judging by how fast he isn’t moving. Actually fuck that. I’m going back to wearing busted gear all the time. Fuck fresh.
Felt like I couldn’t roll my ankle if I wanted too. Got hot soles sometimes, you are very connected to the board with those, not ‘cushy’.
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SPVs sucked ballzack, fell apart so fast.
AVEs skate great; sole doesn't phase me too much - really surprised. Wasn't too fond of the toebox crease, it dug in at times. I slept on the dress blues and ended up with the greens/Forrest Night; it's unlike anything in the rest of their lineup.
Didn't like the Berles, sizing felt off (too long, just like the Crockett 2s and TNT protos - it's like those three were made off the same base model or something.
Rowan is a very classic take on (like was said before) the Halfcab and the TNT SG (one of my favorite models).
Still want to skate the 112 mid and the classic mid.
Got the 112 mid and after a week they felt too long and wide and now I never wear em, I need some thicker socks.
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Those canvas/suede Sk8 hi's(?) are HOT. Hopefully the toebox is slimmer but I highly doubt it
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The Rowley SPV was great but boy did you know about it if you landed primo. That said, I used to skate Gravis all the time and there wasn't much difference between how thick their soles where. I'd love another pair. The SOLOS were banging too. I've got one pair of the dress blues colourway left that I'm tempted to skate but I also want to hang onto 'em because I can't imagine I'll find another pair.
I haven't bought the new AVE shoe but I've tried them on and they feel incredible. Really slim but feel super supportive. I'm not that into cupsoles but that's one shoe I'd make the switch from vulc for.
That’s accurate: slim/supportive. Not really padded. Mine lasted really long without showing signs of wear. Didn’t look like I skated them, which can be kinda nice to be able to wear a shoe out to the store without looking liking the dad that probably can’t skate all that great judging by how fast he isn’t moving. Actually fuck that. I’m going back to wearing busted gear all the time. Fuck fresh.
Felt like I couldn’t roll my ankle if I wanted too. Got hot soles sometimes, you are very connected to the board with those, not ‘cushy’.
That sounds like a really good thing to me. Please don't try to roll your ankles on purpose. Shit is painful.
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Those canvas/suede Sk8 hi's(?) are HOT. Hopefully the toebox is slimmer but I highly doubt it
They're the Crockett 2 Mid's
They're a cupsole & if they fit anything like the Crockett 2's, they're thing in the forefoot/toebox.
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with all the old school/90s shoe instagram pages it seems like Vans always had some out the box cupsoles? just today they posted those "pro series"
then the whole rowley xlt era was fucking sick!
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I'm just over here wishing I could find another pair of these shits
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Vans used to kill it so hard with the funky TNT and AV Sk8 Lo colorways
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I'm just over here wishing I could find another pair of these shits
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Vans used to kill it so hard with the funky TNT and AV Sk8 Lo colorways
Whoa these were sitting at my local in a size 8.5 for years.... Recently sold tho to another local once they were marked for like 30
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with all the old school/90s shoe instagram pages it seems like Vans always had some out the box cupsoles? just today they posted those "pro series"
then the whole rowley xlt era was fucking sick!
Yeah but I’ve heard that most of their out of the box/super puffy and tech cupsole models in late 90s, early 2000s basically almost collapsed their skate program.
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Picked up the suede AA authentic hi’s, and they are comfy as fuck. I haven’t skated them yet but they seem like they would be durable. It’s been awhile since I’ve skated Vans and those AVEs look sick as fuck. Just couldn’t imagine dropping 100 on Vans tho....
I have the blue canvas. It’s not padded, it is a bit stiff and the popcush feels nicer
I got the brown suede and the black canvas. They are not very padded at all but are comfortable and have a lot of ankle support you’d expect from a hi top. They are a bit stiff in the toe cap due to the extra layer. Currently skating the brown suede sand really enjoying them. Been awhile since I’ve been in Vans. Happy thus far.
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Agreed. The thing is though I'd buy these, be stoked for a day then just want to skate authentic pros/classics again. Last time I was at my local I saw the look book for the upcoming stuff and there were these all black authentic in leather coming out. I fucking want five pairs of those. They used to have them or I believe they were called the Decons.
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
Why when you can get Chimas at that price?
https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
Because they’re cup sole?
Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.
Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.
If it means anything a random video popped up on YouTube with a kid skating this for the first day.
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/en/vans-slip-on-exp-pro-wear-test-review/
So it isn’t bad. I’m honestly more concerned about the mesh. They do look more like chillers.
Just got them. I’m usually a 9.5 and I got them in that size. They fit a bit tight and look a little funny on foot (May be due to the color I got them.
Will update with further wear
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https://skateparkoftampa.com/vans-geoff-rowley-classic-shoes-669919-black-red-82326-14760
Wondering if anyone has skated the Rowley classics lately or has any in depth info on them. I want to grab a pair but don’t know if the general consensus on them was feasible for the price. I love half cabs and rowans for reference. But I do want a cupsole if these are even considered cup? lol anyways should I just grab some AVE’s and save some time or give the Rowleys a spin? Thanks
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https://skateparkoftampa.com/vans-geoff-rowley-classic-shoes-669919-black-red-82326-14760
Wondering if anyone has skated the Rowley classics lately or has any in depth info on them. I want to grab a pair but don’t know if the general consensus on them was feasible for the price. I love half cabs and rowans for reference. But I do want a cupsole if these are even considered cup? lol anyways should I just grab some AVE’s and save some time or give the Rowleys a spin? Thanks
check the “anyone skated these thread?” I think someone said they fell apart walking around
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https://skateparkoftampa.com/vans-geoff-rowley-classic-shoes-669919-black-red-82326-14760
Wondering if anyone has skated the Rowley classics lately or has any in depth info on them. I want to grab a pair but don’t know if the general consensus on them was feasible for the price. I love half cabs and rowans for reference. But I do want a cupsole if these are even considered cup? lol anyways should I just grab some AVE’s and save some time or give the Rowleys a spin? Thanks
Nope, not cupsole at all. The Rowley Rapidweld shoe that skateshops had a few months ago was "waffle cup"... so half way between vulc and cup.
These look to be the Vans Classics vulc build, no modern cushy insole or duracap or anything. I had a white leather with gumsole pair of the same build a couple months ago, skated them for one and a half months and enjoyed them. Not a ton of padding under foot, but I wasn't skating anything huge. I wouldn't say they fell apart by any means, I could have kept skating them but got kinda bored and switched up to some cupsoles recently.
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https://skateparkoftampa.com/vans-geoff-rowley-classic-shoes-669919-black-red-82326-14760
Wondering if anyone has skated the Rowley classics lately or has any in depth info on them. I want to grab a pair but don’t know if the general consensus on them was feasible for the price. I love half cabs and rowans for reference. But I do want a cupsole if these are even considered cup? lol anyways should I just grab some AVE’s and save some time or give the Rowleys a spin? Thanks
I loved these shoes when they first came out, and picked up two more pairs a few years back at a Vans outlet.
On my second pair now, and the insole is thin, as is the sole, feels thinner than the current Vans slip-on pros I usually wear.
The heel cup is stiff, nice minimal ankle cushioning, and the most cushion is in the fat tongue. The material stretches out a bit so maybe size down a half size. But a nice, moccasin-y thin sole shoe, if you like board feel.
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Honestly vans are blowing it by not rereleasing the Rowley XLT in this tech resurgence, shoe was perfect in every way!
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The only "new" Vans models I'd ever be interested in buying.
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Yeah fuck the rowleys I was talking about for $80 thanks cuck and stets for the breakdown! Did myself, my feet, and my wallet a favor and scooped another pair of rowans for $56 shipped.
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Does anyone know if vans plans on releasing anymore of the aa authentic highs in the navy? Was kinda on the fence about them at first but kinda want to them a try.
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aside from the DC legacy, this is the worst skate shoe I’ve ever had. this color is sick though.
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Does anyone know if vans plans on releasing anymore of the aa authentic highs in the navy? Was kinda on the fence about them at first but kinda want to them a try.
Per the Slap forum rumor mill... another Black Canvas w/ White Sole is coming.
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I really want those AA authentics for work. I always wear all black authentics or slips anyways. However you wouldn’t catch me dead wearing them with shorts.
Most of all their other new silhouettes look weird on the web but pretty cool in person or on the right person. I used to hate those slip ons with the strap but they look good in person.
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Honestly vans are blowing it by not rereleasing the Rowley XLT in this tech resurgence, shoe was perfect in every way!
I won some of those in a Damn Am contest back in like 2002. They squeaked when I walked and I blew through the bottom of the sole in what was for me, record time. I don't miss them one bit!
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Honestly vans are blowing it by not rereleasing the Rowley XLT in this tech resurgence, shoe was perfect in every way!
I won some of those in a Damn Am contest back in like 2002. They squeaked when I walked and I blew through the bottom of the sole in what was for me, record time. I don't miss them one bit!
you got a bum pair! The only tougher vans shoes I’ve owned were the Rowley shams which were essentially a bullet proof half cab on a cupsole, I’d actually champion more for them to make a comeback but I think I’m in the minority there. The XLT at least has a bit of a cult following.
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If we're pining for a revamped marshmallow it might as well be Rowley Shams instead.
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Honestly vans are blowing it by not rereleasing the Rowley XLT in this tech resurgence, shoe was perfect in every way!
I won some of those in a Damn Am contest back in like 2002. They squeaked when I walked and I blew through the bottom of the sole in what was for me, record time. I don't miss them one bit!
I fucking loved my shams.
Bulletproof they were not. I’m not sure if I’ve ever had a shoe disintegrate faster.
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Do you guys skate grip tape laced with shards of glass?
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Do you guys skate grip tape laced with shards of glass?
Haha. I felt like the quality of all of the Rowley’s was sus/and/or planned obsolescence
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Was the Ultra Range Pro (both iterations) worth it?
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i have the classics but those pros go off. usually dont do black and blue but wouldnt mind these as chillers
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Was the Ultra Range Pro (both iterations) worth it?
I looked for them after a user here recommended them but I couldn't actually find any in my size in stock anywhere. I got the impression that they weren't making skateable versions currently. They have the lifestyle versions out still so hopefully they put either the 2 or the original back in the line. The same part of me that wants to try Legacy Slims wants to try the Ultra Range Pros.
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Was the Ultra Range Pro (both iterations) worth it?
I’ve seen a few on EBay and the crappy color ways are the cheapest.
That being said at 120 not many people tried them but the online reviews say they were really good.
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Was the Ultra Range Pro (both iterations) worth it?
I’ve seen a few on EBay and the crappy color ways are the cheapest.
That being said at 120 not many people tried them but the online reviews say they were really good.
Every so often, some new guy w/ a bright idea walks into Vans & gets a 'tech' line of shoes going.
And then we have a line like XL & Ultra Range & the EXP Slip on.
It sells for a hot second & then it becomes hot garbage & everyone goes back to skating the classic vulcs.
This has happened before & it will happen again.
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Ay least now they have a couple of technologies out. One of them is bound to work out. Also, I’m surprised they aren’t throwing their silhouettes onto the builds just to see what happens.
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Still a garbage
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Just bought the Chima Pro 2 in Bordeaux and repainted the stripe in white myself ;D
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Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.
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Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.
Not worth it unless they are on sale (berles). I was lucky to get mine 60% off. They are frustratingly grippy for flip tricks requiring a kickflip motion and I often found the board flying out with the front foot. The laces for me keep blowing out every 1-2 sessions. The insole sucks and I put one on top of whatever that inbuilt one is.
Vans durability is well... vans durability. I haven’t skated them too long about 2 weeks I think and the toecap goes pretty quick and I’m already about to rip the fabric yet and I haven’t even touched the main rubber at the front.
However some positives are they feel pretty broken in out of the box, you can find a really good consistent flip eventually but I seem to have more off/on days with them than my other shoes. In conclusion they are a sale only shoe. This was my first time skating a vans shoe and being able to compare it though to other brands so I might be subjective to an extent. I also at the moment do lots of flip tricks so the durability might be longer for you.
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Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.
Don't ever get Berle pros, worst shoe ever. Poor grip, bad flick and heavy af.
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Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.
Currently skating Crockett 2s, skated 6 or 7 pairs before, if not more.
They're as skatable out of the box as it gets. They're perfect after 2 sessions for me, and I can skate a pair for about 2,5 months (skating 2 to 3 times a week, doing lots of tricks that include ollies) if I put a bit of Shoe Goo on the ollie hole I get after 1/1,5 month.
They're my favourite current shoe. I usually get black with white sole (classic) or plain white ones, I just wish there were more great colourways.
Never skated Berles, I think they look bad.
I read really good things about Rowans on here but didn't like the pair I got, they felt too bulky for my liking and I had trouble with the thickness of the sole, it made flip tricks harder.
TLDR: Get Crockett 2s.
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@franc did the rowan's and crockett fit you the same? same size? Feel like crockett might run a tad longer?
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Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.
Currently skating Crockett 2s, skated 6 or 7 pairs before, if not more.
They're as skatable out of the box as it gets. They're perfect after 2 sessions for me, and I can skate a pair for about 2,5 months (skating 2 to 3 times a week, doing lots of tricks that include ollies) if I put a bit of Shoe Goo on the ollie hole I get after 1/1,5 month.
They're my favourite current shoe. I usually get black with white sole (classic) or plain white ones, I just wish there were more great colourways.
Never skated Berles, I think they look bad.
I read really good things about Rowans on here but didn't like the pair I got, they felt too bulky for my liking and I had trouble with the thickness of the sole, it made flip tricks harder.
TLDR: Get Crockett 2s.
Cheers for the recommend. I actually got some Rowans online during lockdown, but sent them back, like you said for being too big and puffy. It was like a canvas puffy, which just didn't seem right. Felt like i was wearing those tiger feet slippers or something.
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I've only tried the Crocketts but they felt long (just like the Berle and TNTproto); I've the Rowans and they don't feel long to me.
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Both Crockett 2s and my sk8 hi feel a tad long. Both kinda same sole (waflecup). I got the black "bmx version" sk8 hi.
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Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.
I've got Crockett 2's waiting to be skated after the Berles I'm skating right now.
Unpopular opinion, but I'm really enjoying my Berles. I rip laces a lot and these do blow out so I just super glued them and they've been fine. They are a bit heavy, but I only noticed when picking up other shoes after holding them. Seams tend to blow out, but super glue ahead of time and you'll be fine. Durability and flick feel really great and the sole is pretty supportive. I have a really high arch and narrow foot so a sole working perfectly for me is rare. The sock liner is the real highlight. It's amazingly comfortable. For walking, they're great. For skating, they aren't the worst but aren't the best. If I had to skate just this shoe forever, I wouldn't be terribly bummed. They're worth trying, to me.
I'm interested to try the Crockett's, but they rub funny on my heel. They feel way more "normal" than the berles and are less tech-y than the Berles.
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I’m normally a 10.5 in era pros, but was a 10 in the TNT adv proto. Would you half size down for the Crockett 2s?
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I agree with Clay’s opinions on the Berle. Had a pair, for as tech as they are they aren’t very special. For walking and chilling they excel (I had the mesh blue and yellow ones). They’re comfortable but for skating they require getting used to. They felt grippy and difficult to flick with but weirdly became slippery. They’re pebble magnets and will fuck up your grip but as long as you don’t have defects, you’ll be fine. A solid 6/10 in retrospect.
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I've been going between a pair of Walkers and Berles. I prefer the Berles for everyday wear and just pumping around the bowl because they're pretty grippy. The Walkers are a bit better for flick. Then again, I suck at skating, so don't trust my opinion too much.
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I've been going between a pair of Walkers and Berles. I prefer the Berles for everyday wear and just pumping around the bowl because they're pretty grippy. The Walkers are a bit better for flick. Then again, I suck at skating, so don't trust my opinion too much.
I got a pair of the walkers in the leather with the snake stripe thing. They’re mad comfy and look nice. I want another pair to skate.
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Has anyone tried the Velcro Kwalk that looks like a Janoski?
And does it have a regs insole or a big foam thing.
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Has anyone tried the Velcro Kwalk that looks like a Janoski?
And does it have a regs insole or a big foam thing.
Have they even dropped? I dunno. I respect the look, but I think I would've liked it more without the velcro.
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This legit looks like a rock climbing shoe... looks like they'd be awful for skating but my buddy who used to skate but doesn't anymore says they're great for working out in
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Those Ultraranges are basically the Vans dad shoes.
Comfy for everyday walking and such. I bought a pair to take with me when traveling through Thailand, Vietnam, Hawaii, etc. Perfect as they feel comfy without socks making it easier to wear them to a beach, waterfall, river, etc., then throw em back on when you leave.
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I am almost 100% sure these aren't from their Pro Skate line. Says it has "all terrain grip" which leads me to believe it's from either their surf or lifestyle lines intended for casual outdoor wear.
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They aren’t. If you look closely on the 3rd slide it’s the reverse waffle thing. I think Grossa had a Sk8-Mid with them (s/o to the Gel Ultracush HD) and it had the sole, accidentally.
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yeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though
Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white
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That shoe is fucking hideous to me, and I don’t know why.
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yeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though
Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/TJX1RN-HERO?$583x583$)
Do his shoes sell like crazy or something? Cause it's really surprising to me that he's still getting pro models and people are doubting that Reynolds will get one
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That shoe is fucking hideous to me, and I know why.
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yeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though
Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white
Do his shoes sell like crazy or something? Cause it's really surprising to me that he's still getting pro models and people are doubting that Reynolds will get one
I kind of assumed it was in his contract that he gets x number of pro models, so they had to keep making them, even though he's not really a top level pro anymore. But that shoe looks disgusting, and it's been in the line a couple years now, so someone must be buying it.
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I basically shill for the AVE now. Found myself near a track and decided to run in circles for a while, didn’t have my running shoes, feet felt fine afterwards.
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I basically shill for the AVE now. Found myself near a track and decided to run in circles for a while, didn’t have my running shoes, feet felt fine afterwards.
I need a pair. Was waiting for some significant discount. the 30% was good but had bought too much recently to bite on em. Liking the crockett 2's cushion wise just from walking around lately.
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I basically shill for the AVE now. Found myself near a track and decided to run in circles for a while, didn’t have my running shoes, feet felt fine afterwards.
Gilb2’s look decent for sure. When I’m not stanning for the AVE I just want plain authentics/eras/maybe half cabs, in the most basic colors. I skated in my Juliens and that was fun for the 2 weeks they lasted. Some of the newer tech vans shoes look pretty bad....
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yeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though
Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white
Do his shoes sell like crazy or something? Cause it's really surprising to me that he's still getting pro models and people are doubting that Reynolds will get one
I kind of assumed it was in his contract that he gets x number of pro models, so they had to keep making them, even though he's not really a top level pro anymore. But that shoe looks disgusting, and it's been in the line a couple years now, so someone must be buying it.
I mean no one is getting a contract like that, right?There's no way shoe companies are doing 10 pro model shoe deals, even someone like Vans.
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yeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though
Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white
Do his shoes sell like crazy or something? Cause it's really surprising to me that he's still getting pro models and people are doubting that Reynolds will get one
I kind of assumed it was in his contract that he gets x number of pro models, so they had to keep making them, even though he's not really a top level pro anymore. But that shoe looks disgusting, and it's been in the line a couple years now, so someone must be buying it.
I mean no one is getting a contract like that, right?There's no way shoe companies are doing 10 pro model shoe deals, even someone like Vans.
I don't know if they're giving out deals like that anymore, but I think they did at one point. I don't know if it was 10 pro models specifically, but I don't think TNT still has a pro shoe just because of his marketability, which is nowhere near what it once was. Look at the last couple pro models P-Rod had on Nike. He wasn't exactly on top of the skate world anymore, his shoes weren't flying off the shelves, and they had newer guys who deserved it more. I assume TNT's last one or two Vans pro models are the same thing. Depending on when he signed his deal, there might have been a bidding war with another brand, or he may have just had a lot of negotiating power to get something like that written in.
This is a lot of speculation on my part, so I have no idea if it's true, but that's just the scenario that makes the most sense to me.
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Not a fan of that pumpkin colorway at all, but I definitely have a pair of TNT Advanced Prototypes in the rotation of shoes I skate in. Comfortable, durable, and remind me a bit of the AV Rapidweld Pro.
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@franc did the rowan's and crockett fit you the same? same size? Feel like crockett might run a tad longer?
Sorry for the delayed reply.
I got both in the same size (11.5) and the Gilbies might be a tiny, tiny bit longer. Both did fit well until I tried to skate the Rowans which I didn't like at all.
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i feel like the only locks for pro shoes in the future are Reynolds and Kader. those will sell super well unless Vans completely botches the design. would love to see what reynolds brings to the table in terms of a Vans shoe.
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Anyone noticed that the new Old Skool pros (full suede) are ridiculously wide or am i just trippin? I have pretty wide foot yet my trusty old 8.5s feel almost too loose.
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i feel like the only locks for pro shoes in the future are Reynolds and Kader. those will sell super well unless Vans completely botches the design. would love to see what reynolds brings to the table in terms of a Vans shoe.
I feel Justin Henry is gonna get one once Quasi turns him pro.
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i feel like the only locks for pro shoes in the future are Reynolds and Kader. those will sell super well unless Vans completely botches the design. would love to see what reynolds brings to the table in terms of a Vans shoe.
If Reynolds made a good looking cup. Something you can wear to skate and to do errands that would be ideal.
I really enjoyed the aves but the clear some gimmick wore off quick to me. And the weird toe cap on it durable but just looked not so great to me. I got the all black and I with I got the white ones. I can’t pull off an all black shoe.
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posted in upcoming shoes thread..Those vans cups Reynolds was wearing. special made fairlanes
(https://i.ibb.co/F4xk8mK/BCEA2274-7-E74-48-FA-8051-531-E2-EF86-FFB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F4xk8mK)
(https://i.ibb.co/7p4KCt5/8-E07-E3-BF-A09-A-4498-8-F62-D4-FDEB755-B5-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7p4KCt5)
(https://i.ibb.co/fGGpV0v/0000-C941-F791-48-E2-B700-36-E077-D2127-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fGGpV0v)
Something like this? But modernized I could see vans dropping.
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For those who find vulcanized Vans to be very grippy on fliptricks, how do the AVEs compare? I skate Vans all the time, but I notice my fliptricks are a lot better in cupsoles because of slightly less tackiness. Would buy some AVEs if the flick wasn't quite as sticky as, say, my slipon pros.
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@franc did the rowan's and crockett fit you the same? same size? Feel like crockett might run a tad longer?
Sorry for the delayed reply.
I got both in the same size (11.5) and the Gilbies might be a tiny, tiny bit longer. Both did fit well until I tried to skate the Rowans which I didn't like at all.
Curious to hear what you didn't like about them? I absolutely love mine, best skate shoe I've had in years
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For those who find vulcanized Vans to be very grippy on fliptricks, how do the AVEs compare? I skate Vans all the time, but I notice my fliptricks are a lot better in cupsoles because of slightly less tackiness. Would buy some AVEs if the flick wasn't quite as sticky as, say, my slipon pros.
Yes, I can confirm that the AVEs are slightly less sticky than the pro vulcs.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CDwCNfogPvN/?igshid=1vxvntv0tehqa
Probably not in pro skate line but reminded me of fairlaine or the duos Reynolds was wearing a bit
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Crockett Highs are finally live in Canada - scored a pair this morning on the Vans site. Act fast
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Are these limited?
Sold out everywhere. I really want a pair.
Side note, i bought the era pros(or whichever one has no padding on the collar) and they are so uncomfortable. Blisters on pinky toe and heel rub. Granted i was sock-less but my intent was for some summertime shoes.
Do they get better?
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https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dauRm5NsAaQ/TnGbVYWMhpI/AAAAAAAAAgI/OTiJQjGzbkI/s1600/vans-rowleyspv-view.jpg
Are these limited?
Sold out everywhere. I really want a pair.
Side note, i bought the era pros(or whichever one has no padding on the collar) and they are so uncomfortable. Blisters on pinky toe and heel rub. Granted i was sock-less but my intent was for some summertime shoes.
Do they get better?
Authentics then if they dont have collar padding. id say wearing with socks to break them in would be a better choice. maybe theyre too snug ?
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Those Rowley SPVs came out 9 years ago...
and yeah Authentic Pros are terrible - stay far away. Get era pros instead.
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yeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though
Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white
Do his shoes sell like crazy or something? Cause it's really surprising to me that he's still getting pro models and people are doubting that Reynolds will get one
I kind of assumed it was in his contract that he gets x number of pro models, so they had to keep making them, even though he's not really a top level pro anymore. But that shoe looks disgusting, and it's been in the line a couple years now, so someone must be buying it.
I mean no one is getting a contract like that, right?There's no way shoe companies are doing 10 pro model shoe deals, even someone like Vans.
I don't know if they're giving out deals like that anymore, but I think they did at one point. I don't know if it was 10 pro models specifically, but I don't think TNT still has a pro shoe just because of his marketability, which is nowhere near what it once was. Look at the last couple pro models P-Rod had on Nike. He wasn't exactly on top of the skate world anymore, his shoes weren't flying off the shelves, and they had newer guys who deserved it more. I assume TNT's last one or two Vans pro models are the same thing. Depending on when he signed his deal, there might have been a bidding war with another brand, or he may have just had a lot of negotiating power to get something like that written in.
This is a lot of speculation on my part, so I have no idea if it's true, but that's just the scenario that makes the most sense to me.
PRod definitely had a contract guaranteeing 10 pro models. I assumed they’d expand beyond that, particularly with Primitive taking off, but looks like that’s not the case. Wonder if they’ll give him one more model before he moves completely into the background / retires.
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Those Rowley SPVs came out 9 years ago...
and yeah Authentic Pros are terrible - stay far away. Get era pros instead.
Awww man, i thought they reissued the spv’s. They should, one of my favorites.
I’m bummed on the authentics and wish they would break in but whatever. Should’ve bought the originals. Half the price and not terribly uncomfortable.
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does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight
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does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight
Id be so happy if they lasted me more than 3 weeks, really want to try the Rowans out but Im afraid of buying limp dick Vans
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does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight
Id be so happy if they lasted me more than 3 weeks, really want to try the Rowans out but Im afraid of buying limp dick Vans
The Rowans are extremely durable and don’t potato out like other Vans. Hold their shape and form well. Made from premium materials for a simple looking shoe.
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It's by no means an advanced shoe, but the Old School Pros have always treated me well. It seems like the non-pro classics wear out almost immediately.
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does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight
Id be so happy if they lasted me more than 3 weeks, really want to try the Rowans out but Im afraid of buying limp dick Vans
The Rowans are extremely durable and don’t potato out like other Vans. Hold their shape and form well. Made from premium materials for a simple looking shoe.
I've been skating mine since first week of April and they're still holding up great, no shoe-goo or anything. Sole is starting to get a little smooth though.
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does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight
Could be the new popcush? or you suggesting rubber compound, shape, etc? Rowans have that new outsole(gum rubber?) tech too
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does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight
The Popcush is definitely more supportive. My current Old Schools have them and it felt like it took a bit longer to break in compared to the ones I had with Ultracush, but now they feel great.
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The popcush insoles that came in my halfcabs are noticeably softer than the popcush insoles that were in my old skools/eras/slip-ons.... super weird - maybe they harden/soften up over time/humidity.
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does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight
yeah i don't really know. the overall feel is just better on my feet. used to feel all the stitching rubbing on my feet but maybe that could be attributed to a new insole with a different fit inside the shoe?
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https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-skate/kyle-pro-2-antique-white
Has anybody else seen these?
Absolutely obscene.
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https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-skate/kyle-pro-2-antique-white
Has anybody else seen these?
Absolutely obscene.
Personally think they would've looked better without the strap.
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They look like toddler shoes.
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New Crockett hi quasi collab remind me of sco fi fantasy sk8 hi. Black midsole and blue/teal paneling w black suede
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https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-skate/kyle-pro-2-antique-white
Has anybody else seen these?
Absolutely obscene.
Personally think they would've looked better without the strap.
Wait, is that a backward velcro strap? eeeeugh what genius thunk of that idea
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@franc did the rowan's and crockett fit you the same? same size? Feel like crockett might run a tad longer?
Sorry for the delayed reply.
I got both in the same size (11.5) and the Gilbies might be a tiny, tiny bit longer. Both did fit well until I tried to skate the Rowans which I didn't like at all.
Curious to hear what you didn't like about them? I absolutely love mine, best skate shoe I've had in years
The sole is too thick and makes flip tricks harder. They feel kinda bulky too. I'll stick to Crocketts and Half Cab Pros from now on.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv (https://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEISu7BD8Aj/?igshid=wylu9dcq11q4 (https://www.instagram.com/p/CEISu7BD8Aj/?igshid=wylu9dcq11q4)
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Can't really go wrong with white, too bad i already have too much shoes
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Can't really go wrong with white, too bad i already have too much shoes
There's no such thing as too many pairs of shoes...
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv (https://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv)
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Can't really go wrong with white, too bad i already have too much shoes
There's no such thing as too many pairs of shoes...
My partner disagrees
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I haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked
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I haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
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I haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
That’s what I originally wanted.. but with such a bad ankle I needed something that was at least a normal height, Chimas are a touch too low for my liking
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv (https://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv)
now pre-creased
It's the one thing I dislike about that shoe.
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Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht1.jpg?v=1598461958)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht2.jpg?v=1598461958)
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I've been wondering, is there reason why most suede shoes are always more off white color and not bright white?
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I've been wondering, is there reason why most suede shoes are always more off white color and not bright white?
I think it's because there's only so much bleach you can throw on skin before the integrity is compromised. Also, the heel panel of the AVE pros is stitched as opposed to welded - and always a slightly different shade than the vamp - I think the rapid-weld process fades the suede a little bit.
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I haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.
Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht1.jpg?v=1598461958)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht2.jpg?v=1598461958)
Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.
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does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight
Id be so happy if they lasted me more than 3 weeks, really want to try the Rowans out but Im afraid of buying limp dick Vans
The Rowans are extremely durable and don’t potato out like other Vans. Hold their shape and form well. Made from premium materials for a simple looking shoe.
Skated the Rowans very heavily this past summer (three to four times a week) and they lasted a solid two months before potatoing out.
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I haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.
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Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht1.jpg?v=1598461958)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht2.jpg?v=1598461958)
Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.
Still looks wrong. Sucks you always have to have some sort of blue showing through the sole.
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.
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I haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.
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Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht1.jpg?v=1598461958)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht2.jpg?v=1598461958)
Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.
I’ve been wearing the blacked out Aves and like the way they look. The blue is still there but I dont even notice it.
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I haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.
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Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above
Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.
The in-between shoe where it isn't a sock, but they didn't fall over themselves to make you look at the tech is the Berle. Everyone says it looks like a Kohls shoe, and they're right; but it does have some tech in it, and it still looks way better than the AVE shoe, which is seemingly a great shoe that is totally ruined by its appearance.
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I haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.
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Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above
Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.
The in-between shoe where it isn't a sock, but they didn't fall over themselves to make you look at the tech is the Berle. Everyone says it looks like a Kohls shoe, and they're right; but it does have some tech in it, and it still looks way better than the AVE shoe, which is seemingly a great shoe that is totally ruined by its appearance.
My friend has the berles and i noticed every time he skates them he spends at least a quarter of the session in a dark corner picking out pebbles from the sole. Bet they'd be a great shoe at clean parks but a no no in the streets. At least he's cleaning up pebbles for the rest of us at the session.
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I haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.
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Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above
Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.
The in-between shoe where it isn't a sock, but they didn't fall over themselves to make you look at the tech is the Berle. Everyone says it looks like a Kohls shoe, and they're right; but it does have some tech in it, and it still looks way better than the AVE shoe, which is seemingly a great shoe that is totally ruined by its appearance.
Yeah, nobody likes that shoe at all, eh? Like, not even the guy whose name is on it. I really wanted to like it because most cupsoles on the market right now look like either 2002 DC's or baseball coach shoes; but it didn't fit me properly, and nobody that bought it seems satisfied with it.
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I haven’t read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...
Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so I’m gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNT’s. Stoked
The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.
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Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above
Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.
The in-between shoe where it isn't a sock, but they didn't fall over themselves to make you look at the tech is the Berle. Everyone says it looks like a Kohls shoe, and they're right; but it does have some tech in it, and it still looks way better than the AVE shoe, which is seemingly a great shoe that is totally ruined by its appearance.
Yeah, nobody likes that shoe at all, eh? Like, not even the guy whose name is on it. I really wanted to like it because most cupsoles on the market right now look like either 2002 DC's or baseball coach shoes; but it didn't fit me properly, and nobody that bought it seems satisfied with it.
I'm riding a pair right now. I'm fine with them. Does take some wear to get rid of the stiffness.The cupsole is nice. The sole doesn't feel as thick as the Kyle Walkers which I skated last (good thing). And I like them as everyday wear as well.
Also granted, I'm not in the streets. I'm in the park riding (learning) transition.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CEcZXpQlJSY/?igshid=14mpn16pip66j
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Hey so wasn't sure which thread to ask this but maybe someone will respond here
Anyone know where can get a pair of size 9 half cab pro's in the the U.S?
I'm an Aussie asking for a "friend " in the states
Any help be appreciated :)
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white/black Rowan's on premier.. really like these
https://thepremierstore.com/products/rowan-pro-4 (https://thepremierstore.com/products/rowan-pro-4)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-31-20RowanWht1.jpg?v=1598903186)
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Hey so wasn't sure which thread to ask this but maybe someone will respond here
Anyone know where can get a pair of size 9 half cab pro's in the the U.S?
I'm an Aussie asking for a "friend " in the states
Any help be appreciated :)
You can get a size 9 Half Cab pros almost any shop site or on the Vans site
https://www.tactics.com/search/vans+half+cab+pro+skate+shoes (https://www.tactics.com/search/vans+half+cab+pro+skate+shoes)
Tactics has size 9 in the OG colorway and green tan colorway
These are dope, they have size 9
https://www.561skateboarding.com/collections/frontpage/products/vans-half-cab-pro-surplus-black-military?variant=32079030878278 (https://www.561skateboarding.com/collections/frontpage/products/vans-half-cab-pro-surplus-black-military?variant=32079030878278)
Zappos has 9 in og black
https://www.zappos.com/p/vans-half-cab-pro-black-black-white/product/7418942/color/552963 (https://www.zappos.com/p/vans-half-cab-pro-black-black-white/product/7418942/color/552963)
Vans store has surplus colorway and og black in size 9
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/surplus-half-cab-pro-black-military (https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/surplus-half-cab-pro-black-military)
Take your pick homie
Ive gotten shoes from all theses sites, all legit
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Hey so wasn't sure which thread to ask this but maybe someone will respond here
Anyone know where can get a pair of size 9 half cab pro's in the the U.S?
I'm an Aussie asking for a "friend " in the states
Any help be appreciated :)
You can get a size 9 Half Cab pros almost any shop site or on the Vans site
https://www.tactics.com/search/vans+half+cab+pro+skate+shoes (https://www.tactics.com/search/vans+half+cab+pro+skate+shoes)
Tactics has size 9 in the OG colorway and green tan colorway
These are dope, they have size 9
https://www.561skateboarding.com/collections/frontpage/products/vans-half-cab-pro-surplus-black-military?variant=32079030878278 (https://www.561skateboarding.com/collections/frontpage/products/vans-half-cab-pro-surplus-black-military?variant=32079030878278)
Zappos has 9 in og black
https://www.zappos.com/p/vans-half-cab-pro-black-black-white/product/7418942/color/552963 (https://www.zappos.com/p/vans-half-cab-pro-black-black-white/product/7418942/color/552963)
Vans store has surplus colorway and og black in size 9
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/surplus-half-cab-pro-black-military (https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/surplus-half-cab-pro-black-military)
Take your pick homie
Ive gotten shoes from all theses sites, all legit
Thanks mate.
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Gilby Hi mini review
Not a ton of material to the high top, closer to a chuck than a blazer
Toe shape is the same as the low
Sole is functionally the same as the low
Pop cush is the same as ultracush
Heel lock is obviously better
They look great
If you didn't like the low you'll still not like these and vice versa
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My first experience with a Gilby shoe is the high. I really like it. I normally skate Blazers and have preferred floppier shoes like CTAS and even Old Skools. The Old Skools always felt like they had floppy bulk to em and I normally don't like very many cups, but the wafflecup feels great actually. Supportive, but decent boardfeel and they have broken in well.
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Sole is functionally the same as the low
Functionally the same? Is it different? Thought it was a Wafflecup deal too.
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Sole is functionally the same as the low
Functionally the same? Is it different? Thought it was a Wafflecup deal too.
Its the same. Source: I've had both.
Pop cush is the same as ultracush
popcush feels denser and didn't pack out in my 3 months with the rowans compared to ultracush. But if you told me it was in my head, I might not put up a fight.
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Thanks man.
I've had loads of Crockett 2s and am tempted by the those new high blue ones now.
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After riding the rowley classics for about 2 months and saving it as much as possible with shoe goo, i pulled the trigger on a white/gum pair of rowans. I know it gets some harsh reviews...but the Rowley classics i had, which i wouldnt classify as a skate shoe were really good for me...so I’m thinking i may be looking for different things in shoes.
Should get them tomorrow...hoping it works out!
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these new crockett high tops are my favorite shoes of the year. waffle cup is legit. my heel feels so locked in!
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these new crockett high tops are my favorite shoes of the year. waffle cup is legit. my heel feels so locked in!
how does the upper break in? Start stiff? the black teal is sick
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Ive been looking for those crockett hi’s, don’t think they’ve made it to Australia yet...they seem really good...are they cup all the way or cup/vulc mix?
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Pop cush is the same as ultracush
popcush feels denser and didn't pack out in my 3 months with the rowans compared to ultracush. But if you told me it was in my head, I might not put up a fight.
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It's not in your head, popcush is superior. Not "the same" as ultracush by any means.
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Ive been looking for those crockett hi’s, don’t think they’ve made it to Australia yet...they seem really good...are they cup all the way or cup/vulc mix?
they call it Wafflecup
some sort of hybrid between vulc and cup
feels like a more durable vulc / better cushioning with a quicker break in phase than a classic cup
less board feel obviously
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I haven't worn Vans in a while but those white/blue Crockett quasi's got me jazzed up. What's the word on sizing for those compared to regular authentics etc?
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I haven't worn Vans in a while but those white/blue Crockett quasi's got me jazzed up. What's the word on sizing for those compared to regular authentics etc?
TTS
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they call it Wafflecup
some sort of hybrid between vulc and cup
feels like a more durable vulc / better cushioning with a quicker break in phase than a classic cup
less board feel obviously
I've only skated in vulcs these last 15 years, am really picky when it comes to board feel and think Wafflecups don't take long to break in. Wear them to work for a week, skate them twice and they're perfect. The board feel is excellent.
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I haven't worn Vans in a while but those white/blue Crockett quasi's got me jazzed up. What's the word on sizing for those compared to regular authentics etc?
Thank you, my man.
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I wear the same size (11.5) in Half Cab Pros, Crocketts, SK8 Hi Pros and most shoes from the Pro range apart from Slip On Pros (go half a size up). So yeah Crocketts are true to size.
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Ive been looking for those crockett hi’s, don’t think they’ve made it to Australia yet...they seem really good...are they cup all the way or cup/vulc mix?
they call it Wafflecup
some sort of hybrid between vulc and cup
feels like a more durable vulc / better cushioning with a quicker break in phase than a classic cup
less board feel obviously
I've only skated in vulcs these last 15 years, am really picky when it comes to board feel and think Wafflecups don't take long to break in. Wear them to work for a week, skate them twice and they're perfect. The board feel is excellent.
yeah you're right, i should have been more precise by saying board feel is not like an old skool but it's still pretty good after the quick break-in
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Aside from Crockett 2 and Kwalks 1, other Vans shoes have been total poo for me. Rowans didn't fit me at all so can't say how they skate.
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Ive been looking for those crockett hi’s, don’t think they’ve made it to Australia yet...they seem really good...are they cup all the way or cup/vulc mix?
they call it Wafflecup
some sort of hybrid between vulc and cup
feels like a more durable vulc / better cushioning with a quicker break in phase than a classic cup
less board feel obviously
I've only skated in vulcs these last 15 years, am really picky when it comes to board feel and think Wafflecups don't take long to break in. Wear them to work for a week, skate them twice and they're perfect. The board feel is excellent.
Wafflecup is the best thing that ever happened to Vans
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How do the Rowley Rapidwelds fit?
Would half a size down kill me?
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Wafflecup is the best thing that ever happened to Vans
Absolutely! I'll get a pair of SK8-Hi Pros every once in a while because I love how they look but Gilbies are ten times better to skate in. Favourite shoe these last years, I just wish they made more decent colourways. I'll never get tired of black with white sole but something spicier that doesn't look too Zumiez would be appreciated.
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Are the Gilberts heel area stiff/uncomfy as say Chima 2's?
I'd like to try the Crockett 2s, or highs for that matter
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Are the Gilberts heel area stiff/uncomfy as say Chima 2's?
I'd like to try the Crockett 2s, or highs for that matters
not on the lows. Haven’t tried the high
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Gilbies are well comfy.
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I have 3 pairs of rowans, 3 pairs of Crockett Hi’s, 2 style 36 pro’s, 2 uprise half cab pros, & 1 pair of AVE’s. Vans has been treating me well lately lol
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After riding the rowley classics for about 2 months and saving it as much as possible with shoe goo, i pulled the trigger on a white/gum pair of rowans. I know it gets some harsh reviews...but the Rowley classics i had, which i wouldnt classify as a skate shoe were really good for me...so I’m thinking i may be looking for different things in shoes.
Should get them tomorrow...hoping it works out!
I did the same thing, kept fixing my Rowley classics with shoe goo until I couldn’t anymore... the sole kept blowing open at the toes.
Bought a pair of Ave’s which were ok but kinda thin upper and quite solid cupsole for my liking.
Anyway, I just got a pair of the Rowley Rapiweld’s and I’m stoked! The wafflecup holds the Rowley’s together More stable but still great board feel. The upper lost a bit of chunk but all in all I think they’re perfect.
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Hearing the Crockett Hi's are more comfortable than the lows? Anything changed with padding? Or just more locked in with the ankle height, supportive? Less restriction from the high top would seem like it would be more comfortable to me.
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Does anyone know if the Quasi Crockets are going to be sold by Vans ever? 13s apparently are sold out on the Quasi site. Sorry if this is a dumb question but new to this the-board-company-sells-the-shoes thing.
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Does anyone know if the Quasi Crockets are going to be sold by Vans ever? 13s apparently are sold out on the Quasi site. Sorry if this is a dumb question but new to this the-board-company-sells-the-shoes thing.
As of right now, Cowtown has your size (in the black/teal)
https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/product_detail.cfm?CatID=10&PID=56818&SKU=157704&LinkID=1
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Does anyone know if the Quasi Crockets are going to be sold by Vans ever? 13s apparently are sold out on the Quasi site. Sorry if this is a dumb question but new to this the-board-company-sells-the-shoes thing.
https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/product_detail.cfm?CatID=10&PID=56818&SKU=157704&LinkID=1
You rule. Truly. Thank you.
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I've had the Eras, Chimas, Slip ons, Gilbys and Rowans all in pro. The Gilbys were the only
ones that didn't fit for shit. Felt like the front of my foot was thrown in the ocean.
Rowans are dialed in for my fit and popcush is great.
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Rowans are by far the best skate shoe I’ve had all year. I usually blow through shoes every two or three weeks but these are lasting.
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Rowans are by far the best skate shoe I’ve had all year. I usually blow through shoes every two or three weeks but these are lasting.
they would be foolish to discontinue them anytime soon. Seriously the best vans shoe in terms of durablility
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Rowans are by far the best skate shoe I’ve had all year. I usually blow through shoes every two or three weeks but these are lasting.
i skated mine for close to 2.5 months straight and i'm about to skate them again. just hoping the sole didn't get much thinner than i remember... that would be the only thing stopping me.
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Crockett Highs are great! I'm a big fan of the wafflecup and I've been looking for a hightop that isn't vulc for a while
Can't comment on the fit vs. the lows as I havent had the lows.. but these are one of the comfiest pairs of shoes I've ever had
Would buy again
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Rowans are by far the best skate shoe I’ve had all year. I usually blow through shoes every two or three weeks but these are lasting.
I've been skating mine since quarantine started and they look beat but still feel solid
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Rowans are by far the best skate shoe I’ve had all year. I usually blow through shoes every two or three weeks but these are lasting.
I've been skating mine since quarantine started and they look beat but still feel solid
I only stopped skating my first pair after 3 months because I was tired of looking down at the same shoe. Skating another colorway of Rowans now.
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some new Fall colors and features added to vans.com
"wrapped" old skool and authentic?
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/wrapped-old-skool-pro-navy-marshmallow (https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/wrapped-old-skool-pro-navy-marshmallow)
"..."features sturdy suede uppers, high-wrapped foxing tape, enhanced sockliners.."
(https://i.ibb.co/CnJDX6c/image.png) (https://ibb.co/CnJDX6c)
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Not sure about the suede but the foxing is higher
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Slightly OT, but goddamnit Vans where's the snow site.
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Rowan getting the cool colourways (Port/White, Bronze/Antique), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).
Too bad Gilbies are my favorite shoes but I can't skate in Rowans (and yes, I have tried). Been dreaming of a beige/brown/bronze Gilbert with white sole for years. Oh well.
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Rowan getting the cool colourways (Port/White, Bronze/Antique), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).
Too bad Gilbies are my favorite shoes but I can't skate in Rowans (and yes, I have tried). Been dreaming of a beige/brown/bronze Gilbert with white sole for years. Oh well.
i know, I like the crockett 2's alot as well. Seems like they focused on the hi model this season i guess. and KWalker got like 3-4 colors of his first model plus a few in his 2nd.
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Rowan getting the cool colourways (Port/White, Bronze/Antique), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).
Too bad Gilbies are my favorite shoes but I can't skate in Rowans (and yes, I have tried). Been dreaming of a beige/brown/bronze Gilbert with white sole for years. Oh well.
To be fair, that new Crockett 2 colorway looks like something he would wear. I really like them myself but I can definitely understand why you wouldn't.
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Probably not going to happen, but if they made the Berle in a mid or high I'd be a repeat buyer. I know some people weren't into them but I found them to be my favorite Vans "pros".
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), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).
Ordered the first day it was available and fucking love them. Thanks!
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If Vans would put out this colour in the Gilby High I'd be very happy....
(https://i.imgur.com/HvjN6xG.png)
It's not an unreasonable wish either, I could see it happening anyway.
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If Vans would put out this colour in the Gilby High I'd be very happy....
(https://i.imgur.com/HvjN6xG.png)
It's not an unreasonable wish either, I could see it happening anyway.
yeah that would be sick. With extra black laces
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Probably not going to happen, but if they made the Berle in a mid or high I'd be a repeat buyer. I know some people weren't into them but I found them to be my favorite Vans "pros".
Ew
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I’m going to cut and paste this from my insta about the Gil Highs.
I am so fucking picky about shoes. It’s a curse. I have been this way my whole life… I made my Mother cry over Duffs that were half size too big. My Dad threw airwalks at me on the front lawn. The first time I spent over 100 bucks was on Bo Jackson Nike Trainers in grade 8, my mom had to lie to my dad about the price. Anyhoo, the past few years I can not find a cup sole skate shoe that fits or feels right. I think vans pro highs are their sleeper shoe. It is perfect. But I CAN NOT rock a vulc shoe with my bunk back. All I want is a bouncy feeling sole with a supportive insole. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY a shoe I can put on and not think about. Which seems to be impossible as they all slip at the heel or have a puffy tongue that feels weird when tied up. Or one foot feels tight and the other loose, or they are too slim and it feels like my feet are being choked.
I am happy to say my search is over. The Gilbert Crocket High is the best feeling shoe I have put on since Vans Fairlanes in the mid 90’s. I’m telling you this is the shoe. Put it on, tie it up, feel the comfort, and most importantly forget you have them on.
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Probably not going to happen, but if they made the Berle in a mid or high I'd be a repeat buyer. I know some people weren't into them but I found them to be my favorite Vans "pros".
Username checks out
Edit: jk Idk I havent tried the Berle pros, Ive read some bad things on here but with all the colorways coming out they must be selling a lot. EliJAH is a douche, Id rather buy a product with Gilby or Chima's name on it.
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), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).
Ordered the first day it was available and fucking love them. Thanks!
Haha, each to their own! Glad you like the, glad some people like skating in them.
Just started skating a pair of those green Half Cab Pros that came out last spring I think, loving this colourway. I wish Vans made something similar but with more beige bits, like that old Carroll pro shoe inspired by Airwalk Enigmas, with a white sole though. I can't wear black soles.
(https://www.dressinn.com/f/13734/137347162/vans-half-cab-pro.jpg)
(https://illpaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/8-VANS-Carroll.jpg)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4H3v44nJI7E/WnECssjEptI/AAAAAAAAfqE/GHPO0Gsb2tI5pMtKJjvc4BhzIy2sF5dvQCLcBGAs/s400/thisoneagain.jpg)
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Probably not going to happen, but if they made the Berle in a mid or high I'd be a repeat buyer. I know some people weren't into them but I found them to be my favorite Vans "pros".
Username checks out
Edit: jk Idk I havent tried the Berle pros, Ive read some bad things on here but with all the colorways coming out they must be selling a lot. EliJAH is a douche, Id rather buy a product with Gilby or Chima's name on it.
If you're not put off by the look, they're worth trying. A couple of the colorways are offensive but I like the black/white. Other than laces ripping they've held up really well.
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), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).
Ordered the first day it was available and fucking love them. Thanks!
Haha, each to their own! Glad you like the, glad some people like skating in them.
Just started skating a pair of those green Half Cab Pros that came out last spring I think, loving this colourway. I wish Vans made something similar but with more beige bits, like that old Carroll pro shoe inspired by Airwalk Enigmas, with a white sole though. I can't wear black soles.
(https://www.dressinn.com/f/13734/137347162/vans-half-cab-pro.jpg)
(https://illpaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/8-VANS-Carroll.jpg)
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4H3v44nJI7E/WnECssjEptI/AAAAAAAAfqE/GHPO0Gsb2tI5pMtKJjvc4BhzIy2sF5dvQCLcBGAs/s400/thisoneagain.jpg)
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Probably not going to happen, but if they made the Berle in a mid or high I'd be a repeat buyer. I know some people weren't into them but I found them to be my favorite Vans "pros".
Username checks out
Edit: jk Idk I havent tried the Berle pros, Ive read some bad things on here but with all the colorways coming out they must be selling a lot. EliJAH is a douche, Id rather buy a product with Gilby or Chima's name on it.
If you're not put off by the look, they're worth trying. A couple of the colorways are offensive but I like the black/white. Other than laces ripping they've held up really well.
I loved the style 112 pros and the black/white colorway reminds me of them. Some of the colorways look good, I think its dumb how they dont have an insole. The Berle is Vans only shoe that uses that waffle control tech? Does it feel like a cupsole?
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They have a slip on with that same outsole.
It does feel like a cupsole shoe. One of the biggest issues is the fact that it attracts pebbles like a magnet.
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They have a slip on with that same outsole.
It does feel like a cupsole shoe. One of the biggest issues is the fact that it attracts pebbles like a magnet.
100% on the pebbles. (Un)fortunately I've been a park rat since moving to a new area, but it can be a pain when skating street.
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They have a slip on with that same outsole.
It does feel like a cupsole shoe. One of the biggest issues is the fact that it attracts pebbles like a magnet.
100% on the pebbles. (Un)fortunately I've been a park rat since moving to a new area, but it can be a pain when skating street.
Imagine if you setup into dog poop
God forbid.
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They have a slip on with that same outsole.
It does feel like a cupsole shoe. One of the biggest issues is the fact that it attracts pebbles like a magnet.
100% on the pebbles. (Un)fortunately I've been a park rat since moving to a new area, but it can be a pain when skating street.
God forbid.
One of the bigger weaknesses. The flick takes getting used to but I enjoyed walking around in my pair.
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Berles do in fact pick up an unimaginable amount of pebbles. I downplayed the warnings on here, and was very frustrated the first time I wore them. A live and learn lesson for sure.
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How is the board feel with those Berle Pros compared to Crocketts or Half Cabs?
I don't really want to give Eli Berle any money but they remind me of the first Emerica JTs in a good way.
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/WKX6BT-HERO?$583x583$)
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How is the board feel with those Berle Pros compared to Crocketts or Half Cabs?
I don't really want to give Eli Berle any money but they remind me of the first Emerica JTs in a good way.
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/WKX6BT-HERO?$583x583$)
To anybody wanting to try Berle pro: DON'T.
Weird flick, heavy af, weird and awkward sole which is a pebble magnet.
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How is the board feel with those Berle Pros compared to Crocketts or Half Cabs?
I don't really want to give Eli Berle any money but they remind me of the first Emerica JTs in a good way.
Weird flick, heavy af, weird and awkward sole which is a pebble magnet.
I wouldn’t say don’t. But they’re better for walking around. The show feels supportive and like a sock.
But it is very far away from the Half-Cab. I’d say it’s in the opposite spectrum of the half cab. But somehow as heavy.
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Thanks gents. I'll stick to Half Cab Pros and Gilbies then.
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Thanks gents. I'll stick to Half Cab Pros and Gilbies then.
If you go to an outlet for Gibert and cabs and they offer you a free pair pick them up. Even if you hate them, they’ll be comfortable
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If Vans would put out this colour in the Gilby High I'd be very happy....
(https://i.imgur.com/HvjN6xG.png)
It's not an unreasonable wish either, I could see it happening anyway.
Oh I would buy this colorway in a heartbeat. I could see it happening too, they did two similar colorways with the lows.
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How is the board feel with those Berle Pros compared to Crocketts or Half Cabs?
I don't really want to give Eli Berle any money but they remind me of the first Emerica JTs in a good way.
[img]https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/WKX6BT-HERO?$583x583$[img]
Weird flick, heavy af, weird and awkward sole which is a pebble magnet.
Disagree on all of the above except for pebble magnet, but to each their own. I'm not gear-nerd enough to weigh them, but they feel lighter than half cabs with about the same board feel. Can't speak to the Crocketts.
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I love getting colorways from past seasons from the Vans site for cheap. By the time I skate them, nobody else has them and there's something I like about that for some reason. Maybe it's that feeling of having something exclusive and getting it for a good price, like a double win or something, haha.
Just got those grey Half Cab Pros, stoked on them but I haven't had grey shoes in decades and am not sure about how I'll feel looking at them while skating. Put white laces on for extra OG Half Cab power. Hhmm...
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0038/9709/8293/products/[email protected]?v=1578074513)
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I love getting colorways from past seasons from the Vans site for cheap. By the time I skate them, nobody else has them and there's something I like about that for some reason. Maybe it's that feeling of having something exclusive and getting it for a good price, like a double win or something, haha.
Just got those grey Half Cab Pros, stoked on them but I haven't had grey shoes in decades and am not sure about how I'll feel looking at them while skating. Put white laces on for extra OG Half Cab power. Hhmm...
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0038/9709/8293/products/[email protected]?v=1578074513)
those were discounted on vans.com? Really clean pair.
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How is the board feel with those Berle Pros compared to Crocketts or Half Cabs?
I don't really want to give Eli Berle any money but they remind me of the first Emerica JTs in a good way.
[img]https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/WKX6BT-HERO?$583x583$[img]
Weird flick, heavy af, weird and awkward sole which is a pebble magnet.
Disagree on all of the above except for pebble magnet, but to each their own. I'm not gear-nerd enough to weigh them, but they feel lighter than half cabs with about the same board feel. Can't speak to the Crocketts.
The pebble magnet aspect is the ONLY thing I dislike about this shoe personally. Where I live is crusty as hell so it is a problem, but this time of year I have to sweep my spots so it hasn't been as bad of an issue the last couple sessions. Everything else about the shoe works good for me.
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How long does it take you guys for the half cab pros to mold to your feet shape?
First time vans and half cab pros for me.
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those were discounted on vans.com? Really clean pair.
I got them from the Euro site as I live in Switzerland. Got a pair of the green ones from last spring's collection too. 30% off. Stoked.
(https://www.companybe.com/Uprise/product_photos/rd_images/rd_Feb20VansHalfCabLizardEucalyptus2.jpg)
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How long does it take you guys for the half cab pros to mold to your feet shape?
First time vans and half cab pros for me.
They take a tad longer to break in than Crocketts. I usually wear mine at work for about a week, which is enough for them to mold to your feet well. Then after that after two hours of skating they're pretty much perfect.
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I love getting colorways from past seasons from the Vans site for cheap. By the time I skate them, nobody else has them and there's something I like about that for some reason. Maybe it's that feeling of having something exclusive and getting it for a good price, like a double win or something, haha.
Just got those grey Half Cab Pros, stoked on them but I haven't had grey shoes in decades and am not sure about how I'll feel looking at them while skating. Put white laces on for extra OG Half Cab power. Hhmm...
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0038/9709/8293/products/[email protected]?v=1578074513)
I do that too! If it’s a shoe I like with a color way I don’t I just some fabric paint to em and make a custom color way.
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those were discounted on vans.com? Really clean pair.
I got them from the Euro site as I live in Switzerland. Got a pair of the green ones from last spring's collection too. 30% off. Stoked.
(https://www.companybe.com/Uprise/product_photos/rd_images/rd_Feb20VansHalfCabLizardEucalyptus2.jpg)
35% off on the Spanish vans site hehe just grabbed a pair
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Ah yeah, I got mine with 35% off too, good shit.
The sale stuff on the Euro Vans site is worth checking out regularly, sometimes a pair of your favourite shoes randomly appears in one size only at half price. Shit like that is rare but always really satisfying if you're a shoe nerd. Got a pair of black Crocketts with white sole at half price the other day!
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how are the half cabs pros as chillers? havent owned a pair since middle school or so, dont remember how they feel at all.
scared of going back to skating vulcs with my scoliosis, herniated disc, and at risk knees. wouldnt mind them as shit kickers if they are semi comfortable though
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how are the half cabs pros as chillers? havent owned a pair since middle school or so, dont remember how they feel at all.
scared of going back to skating vulcs with my scoliosis, herniated disc, and at risk knees. wouldnt mind them as shit kickers if they are semi comfortable though
Personally, I like the Berles as chillers.
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To anyone who has tried the Crockett Hi's, how does the sizing run?
I had to go down .5 in the AVE's for length and it made the sides fit really tight. Wondering if those were similar.
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just put some Lunarlon in my Rowans and whew boy what a difference!!! that shit FUCKS
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just put some Lunarlon in my Rowans and whew boy what a difference!!! that shit FUCKS
swapping out the vans pro insoles for lunarlon insoles has been my go-to move for a couple years now. Perfect match. Too bad lunarlon is no longer in production.
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They have indeed "used it" on all models, but it's just the new name for ultracush lmao. Just marketing kinda annoying but I'm okay with it as long as they keep making quality shoes.
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the pop Kush is much better than the ultraKush from what i've heard not the same
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it is absolutely identical
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pop cush feels softer when you touch it with your fingers but when you're standing on it with your entire body weight, it feels the same as ultra cush and whatever perceived difference is negligible
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it is absolutely identical
100% agree. Tried on two different KWalks at a Vans outlet in January. One Pop Cush and one Ultracush. Pop felt only marginally better for the first 30 seconds to a minute, then they felt exactly like Ultracush.
For anyone thinking Pop cush is drastically better/different from Ultra, don't be fooled by the marketing!
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it is absolutely identical
For anyone thinking Pop cush is drastically better/different from Ultra, don't be fooled by the marketing!
Trying on for at a shoe vs skating a shoe to completion is different. Might be a placebo but my Rowans haven't mushed out after 2 months of skating while ultra used to flatten out for me at about a month mark. Still might be marketing but your first impression comparison doesn't prove it.
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it is absolutely identical
For anyone thinking Pop cush is drastically better/different from Ultra, don't be fooled by the marketing!
I've been re-using the same ultra cush insoles for about 9 months in different shoes.
There's no flattening out
I've done this w/ other ultra cush hd insoles for the past 5 years (they usually last about a year)
There's negligible amounts of flattening out, they just get crusty.
The pop cush in the Rowans packed out after about 2 months.
So basically, I have the exact opposite experience as you have had.
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it is absolutely identical
For anyone thinking Pop cush is drastically better/different from Ultra, don't be fooled by the marketing!
I've been re-using the same ultra cush insoles for about 9 months in different shoes.
There's no flattening out
I've done this w/ other ultra cush hd insoles for the past 5 years (they usually last about a year)
There's negligible amounts of flattening out, they just get crusty.
The pop cush in the Rowans packed out after about 2 months.
So basically, I have the exact opposite experience as you have had.
Welp I don't know what to think then. Maybe our feets and weight distrobution just are completely different. Fuck I'm gonna rethink all my life decisions now.
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my pop cush in my Rowans packed out in about a month of constant skating, replaced em with Lunarlon.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CHJTR5nl1aa/?igshid=8tvp9m43y5c1
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHLZ38flb95/?igshid=61f3ewuc7c2z
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CHJTR5nl1aa/?igshid=8tvp9m43y5c1
For fuck's sake. Keep those silly colourways for goth kids in the regular range and give us more dope colourways for the Pro Series (tan with white sole please).
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Put me in jail, I like the purple Half Cabs.
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wasn't Bam rocking those purple Half-Cabs for awhile?
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wasn't Bam rocking those purple Half-Cabs for awhile?
*Starts playing 96 Quite Bitter beings on speaker
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CHJTR5nl1aa/?igshid=8tvp9m43y5c1
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHLZ38flb95/?igshid=61f3ewuc7c2z
I had the 112 Pros in that marshmallow/gum color way and they were maybe my favorite skate shoes ever. I wish Vans didn't discontinue them.
Also people who don't think that purple color looks good are tripping. They'd be hot with some green/brown/tan chinos and a pocket tee.
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wasn't Bam rocking those purple Half-Cabs for awhile?
Not sure if there's more recent Bam footage that I haven't seen, but I think he was wearing the burgundy full cabs in his Epicly Later'd.
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/6KUJ6Q-HERO?$583x583$)
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Just waiting on more good Sk8-low Colorways....
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Copped a cheap pair of Rowans to skate in on Poshmark. Was excited to get them. Then got package jacked by a porch pirate. Yay.
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(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/11-4-20Vans-Era-Pro-Green-Black-2.jpg?v=1604616200)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/11-4-20Vans-Slip-On-Pro-Tan-2w.jpg?v=1604616022)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/11-4-20Vans-Slip-On-Pro-Grey-Black-2w.jpg?v=1604615651)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/11-4-20Vans-Rowan-Pro-Tan-2.jpg?v=1604616113)
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Vans is doing a really good job with these recent colorways. They're relatively simple, yet still unique. And yes I do really like that purple Half Cab Pro colorway too.
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Put me in jail, I like the purple Half Cabs.
You under arrest, sugar.
Is there any update on Half-Cab Pros without the foxing stripe, that resemble the normal ones? Saw that awhile back.
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Put me in jail, I like the purple Half Cabs.
Is there any update on Half-Cab Pros without the foxing stripe, that resemble the normal ones? Saw that awhile back.
Yeah, they're gonna make em a cupsole and slap Reynolds' name on em.
Just kidding. But one can dream....
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Holy shit, I need these.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHyIWs9Af6W/
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Holy shit, I need these.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHyIWs9Af6W/
Came to post these
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I have 7 pairs of Crockett hi’s (mostly quasi editions)
2 pair of half cabs pros
5 pairs of Rowans
1 pair of AVE
& 2 pair of style 36 pros to blow through....
Vans has me by the balls :o
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I tried out the Rowans , the first session out the box had a great time skating in them and they felt amazing.
The upper part is A+, probably my favorite vans besides the Tnt 5 nubuck leather, the way they grip the top of my foot feels amazing and I love the laces, I can see them lasting a long time.
My one thing though is that damn Vans sole, I will never get past how soft and thin that Vans sole gets, its instantly feels weak under my feet and every damn bail hurts. I just cant understand why they cant make a stronger sole that can take a true impact. Compared to my Tyshawns it felt like i was skating paper shoes, i know its a cupsole compared to vulcanized but you know what I mean, Vans soles blow out in 3 weeks tops. I can only skate them once a month like a fun way to switch up the boardfeel or to the liquor store. Love em but hate em, classic california style
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I tried out the Rowans , the first session out the box had a great time skating in them and they felt amazing.
The upper part is A+, probably my favorite vans besides the Tnt 5 nubuck leather, the way they grip the top of my foot feels amazing and I love the laces, I can see them lasting a long time.
My one thing though is that damn Vans sole, I will never get past how soft and thin that Vans sole gets, its instantly feels weak under my feet and every damn bail hurts. I just cant understand why they cant make a stronger sole that can take a true impact. Compared to my Tyshawns it felt like i was skating paper shoes, i know its a cupsole compared to vulcanized but you know what I mean, Vans soles blow out in 3 weeks tops. I can only skate them once a month like a fun way to switch up the boardfeel or to the liquor store. Love em but hate em, classic california style
I like the Rowans and I think I've gotten used to the vulc shoe foot pain initiation.
That Ultimate Waffle sole on the AVE pros is actually really nice. You'll have boardfeel but without the feet beatings. I got them for half price but probably still won't skate in them because of how delicate the mesh on them seems. Like they'd skate amazingly well for a week, and then your socks will be hitting griptape. I don't know why they couldn't have just used canvas or just anything more durable than what they ended up using, it's a real shame because other than that, they feel great for skating.
I wore the AVE pros while walking a dirt path in the woods and a twig bumped into the side of the shoe, breaking some of the fibers and you could really tell how delicate that tissue paper mesh is. Putting that on a skate shoe with a $100 price tag is fucking criminal if you ask me.
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so far the ave pro are up there with the most durable shoes i've ever skated, obviously will depend on where your ollie spot is but for me the mesh is basically unaffected after 2 months of frequent skating and the soles still have lots of life
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so far the ave pro are up there with the most durable shoes i've ever skated, obviously will depend on where your ollie spot is but for me the mesh is basically unaffected after 2 months of frequent skating and the soles still have lots of life
I was thinking any heelflip tricks would end up really fucking up that mesh area towards the rear midfoot that's just a thin layer between the sock and the board. The toe area seems flawless for sure. Maybe I'll give them a shot.
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I have 7 pairs of Crockett hi’s (mostly quasi editions)
2 pair of half cabs pros
5 pairs of Rowans
1 pair of AVE
& 2 pair of style 36 pros to blow through....
Vans has me by the balls :o
Vans got my balls in a vice grip as well.
I have:
1 pair Crockett Hi
1 pair World Peace
2 pairs of Rowans
2 pairs of Berles
2 pairs of AVEs
1 pair of Walker 1s
2 pairs of Eras to blow through.
Not including my authentics and slip-ons for daily walking the dogs shoes.
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new AVE pro, first time theyve done split color blocking
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/BT7HR0-HERO?$583x583$)
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new AVE pro, first time theyve done split color blocking
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/BT7HR0-HERO?$583x583$)
First time they've done a decent split color blocking... lest we forget these ones that had potential ACG vibes but kinda missed the mark:
(https://scontent.fhio2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p526x296/78465340_10157509751906539_5959464811954700288_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=zOTrJ1Bq5vEAX-zycTV&_nc_ht=scontent.fhio2-2.fna&tp=6&oh=b6507dbbdfcfdc6e6b41adf458149948&oe=5FF9340D)
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I know it’s been talked about already but, I’m skating the Rowans. I got them at the Outlet and got the khaki/black foxing tape. I usually go for white foxing tape but got these for free, not sure if it affects anything but... fuck the flick is good. I went from the Fastbreak to these and they’re good. The first kickflip I did felt good and it’s stayed like that. It looks a little weird and so is the weird mid cut. But overall it’s a good feeling skate shoe. I’m a fan.
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wasn't Bam rocking those purple Half-Cabs for awhile?
Guaranteed Mudman specials
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I want to get those purple half cabs and chuck some white laces in them. They remind me of the purple chukkas Tim Gavin skates in Tim & Henry’s.
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I know it’s been talked about already but, I’m skating the Rowans. I got them at the Outlet and got the khaki/black foxing tape. I usually go for white foxing tape but got these for free, not sure if it affects anything but... fuck the flick is good. I went from the Fastbreak to these and they’re good. The first kickflip I did felt good and it’s stayed like that. It looks a little weird and so is the weird mid cut. But overall it’s a good feeling skate shoe. I’m a fan.
I hope the Rowans keep getting made for some time. They also fit me true to size with perfection, which is nice.
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I want to get those purple half cabs and chuck some white laces in them. They remind me of the purple chukkas Tim Gavin skates in Tim & Henry’s.
https://thepremierstore.com/products/chukka-49-dx-anaheim-factory
I thought the same thing. Turns out you can even get a step closer! These need to be in constant rotation IMO
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The AVEs are so close to being a perfect Van's shoe for me. The sole is good (performance-wise, looks with the translucent thing aside) and they look good/feel comfortable. Flick is good and consistent. However, the mesh is in some stupid spots and is stupid thin (hurts if something hits you there), the heel/ankle collar has almost no padding so it feels flimsy and not as supportive back there as I'd like. Basically, the shoes feel kinda dainty for what I thought they were going to be.
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The AVEs are so close to being a perfect Van's shoe for me. The sole is good (performance-wise, looks with the translucent thing aside) and they look good/feel comfortable. Flick is good and consistent. However, the mesh is in some stupid spots and is stupid thin (hurts if something hits you there), the heel/ankle collar has almost no padding so it feels flimsy and not as supportive back there as I'd like. Basically, the shoes feel kinda dainty for what I thought they were going to be.
I’ll take the pain, accidents happen. But as a fan of heelflips, the collar doesn’t feel as durable as the rest of the shoe. My sole went bald and the grip wasn’t affected.
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The AVEs are so close to being a perfect Van's shoe for me. The sole is good (performance-wise, looks with the translucent thing aside) and they look good/feel comfortable. Flick is good and consistent. However, the mesh is in some stupid spots and is stupid thin (hurts if something hits you there), the heel/ankle collar has almost no padding so it feels flimsy and not as supportive back there as I'd like. Basically, the shoes feel kinda dainty for what I thought they were going to be.
I'm glad I got them for half price. I walked over a pile of leaves while wearing them and a twig poked a little hole in the mesh pretty easily. They feel good on your feet for skating, but I can see them blowing out fast in areas that don't usually blow out on a shoe, especially if you heelflip at all your sock might be peeking out the side pretty fast, which is fucked a for a shoe with a pro's name on it that goes for $100.
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those updated aves looked pretty sick. the ones that look a bit like rowley rapid welds. anyone know when they come out?
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I want to get those purple half cabs and chuck some white laces in them. They remind me of the purple chukkas Tim Gavin skates in Tim & Henry’s.
https://thepremierstore.com/products/chukka-49-dx-anaheim-factory
I thought the same thing. Turns out you can even get a step closer! These need to be in constant rotation IMO
Oh wow! Thanks for the heads up!
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so what is all the talk about the pros and OG's being different and the former being worse now?
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Shitty photoshop to convince vans to make a move.
(https://i.imgur.com/messDHs.jpg)
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That's dope! Would be an instant buy for me
I almost have gotten the Kyle walkers 2 times and the big ass patch on the tongue has talked me out of it
It would probably be easy to remove you think?
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That's dope! Would be an instant buy for me
I almost have gotten the Kyle walkers 2 times and the big ass patch on the tongue has talked me out of it
It would probably be easy to remove you think?
not really. Looks thoroughly stitched in might have better luck cutting it cleanly along the stitching edge.
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Shitty photoshop to convince vans to make a move.
(https://i.imgur.com/messDHs.jpg)
looks good.. good enough to buy
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Didn't they make low cabs that were cupsoles years back? I remember scott kane maybe had a colorway.
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Didn't they make low cabs that were cupsoles years back? I remember scott kane maybe had a colorway.
They did. That sole was shit
https://sneakernews.com/2009/04/21/vans-low-cab-croc-suede-blue-black-red/
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Ive had rowans for about 1.5month...from a above the sole perspective, the most durable shoe so far...but the sole is really starting to feel soft, no structure and flat...which sucks.
I had a pair of Berle’s, which i didnt get for skating but im gonna switch it in, the sole on it feels pretty tough...i wish rowans had that sole.
They should make like a BMX Rowan...same shoe and that BMX sole...and make the off-white gum colourway again
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Didn't they make low cabs that were cupsoles years back? I remember scott kane maybe had a colorway.
They did. That sole was shit
https://sneakernews.com/2009/04/21/vans-low-cab-croc-suede-blue-black-red/
That period was very bad, the super thin soles with the little hard triangle where the arch / primo spot is.
I still have some of the normal cupsoles in light tan / khaki colour, just wore them a bit as chillers but by that time I was wearing lots of other types, but they were a different shoe. This is the closest, I think:
https://www.the-house.com/vn0lc09bf7zz-vans-skate-shoes.html
I also had a pair or more of these Lo Cab in the video, which were like the Fairlane that Ray Barbee made very popular, same sole and same period. Vid says they are 1994 but I think I had them a bit later than that. That might have been the closest shoe to the Es Accel which was one of the cleanest looking shoes and skated really well too.
A lot of people were pretty keen to see this sort of shoe come back, which might be the best of both worlds with the extra support in the BMX sole versions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciRbzjMEPvE
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That's dope! Would be an instant buy for me
I almost have gotten the Kyle walkers 2 times and the big ass patch on the tongue has talked me out of it
It would probably be easy to remove you think?
I never noticed how much I didn't like it until you mentioned it...
Wasn't hard to remove, took less than 10 mins total for both shoes. I just pulled out the stitches from the front with a blade. Only lame part is the rivets are real, I ripped 'em out but it did leave two tiny holes. Probably just going to toss a dab of shoe goo on it.
They're great shoes, these are my third pair. Not as bulky as the Berle's and doesn't have the 'pebble magnet' sole either (literally would carry one of those metal dab tools to pry rocks out at the spot). I would consider them on the wide end of a medium width and TTS.
shalom and free max b
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My guy! Sorry to bring the patch into your awareness nhaha good job though
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I wish Van’s would release the full cab pro again minus the goofy faux animal skin. I am stoked on the Rowley Pro being out again though, gonna have to cop a few pairs.
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That's dope! Would be an instant buy for me
I almost have gotten the Kyle walkers 2 times and the big ass patch on the tongue has talked me out of it
It would probably be easy to remove you think?
I never noticed how much I didn't like it until you mentioned it...
Wasn't hard to remove, took less than 10 mins total for both shoes. I just pulled out the stitches from the front with a blade. Only lame part is the rivets are real, I ripped 'em out but it did leave two tiny holes. Probably just going to toss a dab of shoe goo on it.
They're great shoes, these are my third pair. Not as bulky as the Berle's and doesn't have the 'pebble magnet' sole either (literally would carry one of those metal dab tools to pry rocks out at the spot). I would consider them on the wide end of a medium width and TTS.
shalom and free max b
nice work, way better. thread puller?
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That's dope! Would be an instant buy for me
I almost have gotten the Kyle walkers 2 times and the big ass patch on the tongue has talked me out of it
It would probably be easy to remove you think?
I never noticed how much I didn't like it until you mentioned it...
Wasn't hard to remove, took less than 10 mins total for both shoes. I just pulled out the stitches from the front with a blade. Only lame part is the rivets are real, I ripped 'em out but it did leave two tiny holes. Probably ju
st going to toss a dab of shoe goo on it.
They're great shoes, these are my third pair. Not as bulky as the Berle's and doesn't have the 'pebble magnet' sole either (literally would carry one of those metal dab tools to pry rocks out at the spot). I would consider them on the wide end of a medium width and TTS.
shalom and free max b
Nah not even that fancy, I just used an exacto knife and picked the stitch out from the front until it was loose. For the rivets i cut the leather patch down the middle so each side was connected to one rivet, spun it around a few times to loosen it up and ripped it off with brute force and ignorance.
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I wish Van’s would release the full cab pro again minus the goofy faux animal skin. I am stoked on the Rowley Pro being out again though, gonna have to cop a few pairs.
The synthetic material of the OG Rowleys were a bit of a pain and would shred easily, but the new versions seem like he is back on the meat wagon, full suede and works well. The sole is thinner in the new Rowley shoe though, with only the thin fixed insole, but that might appeal to some people as well, but might be a pain to others.
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I wish Van’s would release the full cab pro again minus the goofy faux animal skin. I am stoked on the Rowley Pro being out again though, gonna have to cop a few pairs.
The synthetic material of the OG Rowleys were a bit of a pain and would shred easily, but the new versions seem like he is back on the meat wagon, full suede and works well. The sole is thinner in the new Rowley shoe though, with only the thin fixed insole, but that might appeal to some people as well, but might be a pain to others.
I usually prefer the ultracush insoles but I’ll still give the new ones a try. I think the Rowley Pro is one of the best looking shoes ever.
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I wish Van’s would release the full cab pro again minus the goofy faux animal skin. I am stoked on the Rowley Pro being out again though, gonna have to cop a few pairs.
The synthetic material of the OG Rowleys were a bit of a pain and would shred easily, but the new versions seem like he is back on the meat wagon, full suede and works well. The sole is thinner in the new Rowley shoe though, with only the thin fixed insole, but that might appeal to some people as well, but might be a pain to others.
I usually prefer the ultracush insoles but I’ll still give the new ones a try. I think the Rowley Pro is one of the best looking shoes ever.
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/rowley-rapidweld-pro-navy-white#hero=4
This version is a waffle cup with ultracush according to the site. Does it feel thin? I have a pair of the crockett highs and I love the feeling of the sole. wondering if we have the same metric for what feels thin.
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I’ve got both the rowley rapidweld and some crocket 2s (ultracush) in rotation at the moment.
The rowley definitely feels slightly thinner in the sole and overall more lightweight. They definitely feel more supportive and “tech” than a regular vans pro classic show though. The Crockett s feel slightly thicker in the forefoot and slightly cusher round the heel.
Hope that makes sense.
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I’ve got both the rowley rapidweld and some crocket 2s (ultracush) in rotation at the moment.
The rowley definitely feels slightly thinner in the sole and overall more lightweight. They definitely feel more supportive and “tech” than a regular vans pro classic show though. The Crockett s feel slightly thicker in the forefoot and slightly cusher round the heel.
Hope that makes sense.
It does, thank you. Rowley's look mighty tempting but I need to keep my head in the game skating through all the shoes i have already.
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Damn I want those rowleys. Had xlts when I was a kid. And they ripped so fast. My mom was so bummed. I want these but I got crocketts coming.
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Damn I want those rowleys. Had xlts when I was a kid. And they ripped so fast. My mom was so bummed. I want these but I got crocketts coming.
XLTs, bummin moms since 2001, yo
Those Quasi Crocketts with the navy/green colorway were fucking excellent.
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these were way better than people gave them credit for.
(http://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61GDoJCaIeL._AC_UY395_.jpg]http://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61GDoJCaIeL._AC_UY395_.jpg)
(http://images.evo.com/imgp/zoom/72419/348527/vans-rowley-pro-lite-shoes--front.jpg]http://images.evo.com/imgp/zoom/72419/348527/vans-rowley-pro-lite-shoes--front.jpg)
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I wish Van’s would release the full cab pro again minus the goofy faux animal skin. I am stoked on the Rowley Pro being out again though, gonna have to cop a few pairs.
The synthetic material of the OG Rowleys were a bit of a pain and would shred easily, but the new versions seem like he is back on the meat wagon, full suede and works well. The sole is thinner in the new Rowley shoe though, with only the thin fixed insole, but that might appeal to some people as well, but might be a pain to others.
I usually prefer the ultracush insoles but I’ll still give the new ones a try. I think the Rowley Pro is one of the best looking shoes ever.
This version is a waffle cup with ultracush according to the site. Does it feel thin? I have a pair of the crockett highs and I love the feeling of the sole. wondering if we have the same metric for what feels thin.
The wafflecup is amazing and another step up in the quality department, but the regular Rowley Pro that is out is more the normal pro Vans sole look, only thinner, as in the simple waffle sole is a few mm less than the regular pro waffle sole.
See the difference between Pro Rowley rapidweld with the wafflecup sole (especially the heel)
(https://i.ibb.co/HrqmJ1w/Vans-wafflecup-sole.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HrqmJ1w)
And the normal pro Rowley with normal pro sole
(https://i.ibb.co/mh1s5y0/Vans-Rowley-pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mh1s5y0)
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), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).
Ordered the first day it was available and fucking love them. Thanks!
Haha, each to their own! Glad you like the, glad some people like skating in them.
Just started skating a pair of those green Half Cab Pros that came out last spring I think, loving this colourway. I wish Vans made something similar but with more beige bits, like that old Carroll pro shoe inspired by Airwalk Enigmas, with a white sole though. I can't wear black soles.
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4H3v44nJI7E/WnECssjEptI/AAAAAAAAfqE/GHPO0Gsb2tI5pMtKJjvc4BhzIy2sF5dvQCLcBGAs/s400/thisoneagain.jpg)
Just looking for Rowleys and came across that throwback colourway too.
Not my thing but the shoe is clean looking - the Rowley Freedome version or something like that.
(https://i.ibb.co/ZgGvHSz/Vans-FREEDOME-PAIR-2-1024x1024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZgGvHSz)
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I bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?
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Anyone skated a pair of the Vans Pro wrapped?
They have the extra bit of rubber wrapped round the whole upper of the shoe, not as much as the 112 or other versions with the full toe cap but definitely a bit more than the usual versions, which I just saw on vans.com.au but seem like they have been out everywhere else for a month or so.
(https://i.ibb.co/Tv0qGZL/Vans-pro-wrapped-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tv0qGZL)
(https://i.ibb.co/mtGM4bt/Vans-pro-wrapped-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mtGM4bt)
I found the Uprise instagram post with pics here, seems they are in old skool and authentic:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHRPFL3pJAu/
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I bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?
I would be curious to know how many people do actually switch them out and how many just ride them as is.
I have often heard others pull them straight out and use Footprint elite, Remind or similar, even recycle some older ones from the flatter insoles rather than the highly contoured ones in Vans pro now (as I do) but if they don't feel comfortable, often use older insoles until the shoe is nicely worn in and then put the new ones in to last out the life of the shoe.
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Anyone skated a pair of the Vans Pro wrapped?
They have the extra bit of rubber wrapped round the whole upper of the shoe, not as much as the 112 or other versions with the full toe cap but definitely a bit more than the usual versions, which I just saw on vans.com.au but seem like they have been out everywhere else for a month or so.
(https://i.ibb.co/Tv0qGZL/Vans-pro-wrapped-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tv0qGZL)
(https://i.ibb.co/mtGM4bt/Vans-pro-wrapped-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mtGM4bt)
I found the Uprise instagram post with pics here, seems they are in old skool and authentic:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHRPFL3pJAu/
I skated them, honestly I didn’t feel a difference but they were good, skated normal to me, and I loved old skools
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Anyone skated a pair of the Vans Pro wrapped?
They have the extra bit of rubber wrapped round the whole upper of the shoe, not as much as the 112 or other versions with the full toe cap but definitely a bit more than the usual versions, which I just saw on vans.com.au but seem like they have been out everywhere else for a month or so.
(https://i.ibb.co/Tv0qGZL/Vans-pro-wrapped-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tv0qGZL)
(https://i.ibb.co/mtGM4bt/Vans-pro-wrapped-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mtGM4bt)
I found the Uprise instagram post with pics here, seems they are in old skool and authentic:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHRPFL3pJAu/
skated them and love them. anytime old skool comes in all suede i buy. probably going to grab a few more pairs.
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I bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?
I use FP Gamechangers, the PopCush feels too damn high in the heel for me. Tried them in Berle's, Kwalks, Old Schools and Sk8 Hi's and all were a great fit.
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I bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?
I use FP Gamechangers, the PopCush feels too damn high in the heel for me. Tried them in Berle's, Kwalks, Old Schools and Sk8 Hi's and all were a great fit.
the 5mm version?
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I bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?
I use FP Gamechangers, the PopCush feels too damn high in the heel for me. Tried them in Berle's, Kwalks, Old Schools and Sk8 Hi's and all were a great fit.
Yep! I'm a fan. They are hard as hell but I feel way less foot fatigue. In my mid30s fwiw.
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I bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?
I would be curious to know how many people do actually switch them out and how many just ride them as is.
I have often heard others pull them straight out and use Footprint elite, Remind or similar, even recycle some older ones from the flatter insoles rather than the highly contoured ones in Vans pro now (as I do) but if they don't feel comfortable, often use older insoles until the shoe is nicely worn in and then put the new ones in to last out the life of the shoe.
For me the Pop Cush is difficult because the heel is so high and the ball and toe bed are so low and flat that it puts unnecessary pressure on my forefoot. I have some old SB Blazer lunarlon insoles and tried those in my Half Cabs and it felt like a completely different shoe but I'm interested to try some FP elite insoles. It's hard to pull the trigger on an expensive product that backs a MAGA fucktard like Paul Hart though.
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@funeral_tuxedo ive had trouble pulling the trigger on a pair of FP for a year now you’re not alone there. The kingfoam are 60 bucks now
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There isn’t a brand as good, at least that I’m aware for insoles. I have the remind medic and it kinda sucks. I know they have a moldeable one that’s the same price as GameChangers but, i doubt they’ll take the impact.
Also, Fuck Paul Hart.
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I bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?
I would be curious to know how many people do actually switch them out and how many just ride them as is.
I have often heard others pull them straight out and use Footprint elite, Remind or similar, even recycle some older ones from the flatter insoles rather than the highly contoured ones in Vans pro now (as I do) but if they don't feel comfortable, often use older insoles until the shoe is nicely worn in and then put the new ones in to last out the life of the shoe.
For me the Pop Cush is difficult because the heel is so high and the ball and toe bed are so low and flat that it puts unnecessary pressure on my forefoot. I have some old SB Blazer lunarlon insoles and tried those in my Half Cabs and it felt like a completely different shoe but I'm interested to try some FP elite insoles. It's hard to pull the trigger on an expensive product that backs a MAGA fucktard like Paul Hart though.
A couple of guys I know skate the Footprint elites in anything and everything, so I got some in for the shop but I found them to be a bit too squishy and flat for my feet. The Neen ones have an extra bit of harder material from the heel up to about mid foot, which helps a whole lot and supports a bit more. Not sure if any new Footprint insoles have the same thing, as all the other elite versions were just the soft flexi material right the way through.
None really sold in the shop even though a lot of people were interested, but the price was the biggest issue, so many people didn't want to pay that much just for insoles that they may or may not like. I got the elite and the regular flat ones in a few different mm, just to see what there was.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7p1cQfFMJ7/
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skated them and love them. anytime old skool comes in all suede i buy. probably going to grab a few more pairs.
Yes the full suede was the winner for me too. I had quite a few pairs of full suede black / white classic colour old skools when they first came out but then it seems it is only the special editions of weird colours now that have the full suede.
I guess the same with the era pro, as the collar padding just gets destroyed if it is not suede. Sk8 hi and half cabs I find last a good amount of time with the upper, just super glue the stitching first.
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Rowley rapidwelds are shit. Imagine is thinner as usual, they lasted me 11 days when a shoe last me at least 30.
Don't get them.
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https://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM
Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha
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https://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM
Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha
Finally some honest skateboarding journalism
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https://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM
Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha
Finally some honest skateboarding journalism
Thank you.
This was fucking awesome.
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Watched that entire thing, can’t be said for the majority of YouTube shoe or skate reviews. Had me rolling. “Ow!”
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And the good times roll on!!!
Pretty funny!
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I wish my parents let me caveman in the house when I was a kid.
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Honestly, that kid's review was at least equally informative compared to most skate shoe reviews I've seen on YouTube.
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https://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM
Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha
Finally some honest skateboarding journalism
Thank you.
This was fucking awesome.
This is the intense scientific testing skateboarding needs!
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https://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM
Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha
Thank you.
This was fucking awesome.
Can't trust a dude rocking Powell Peralta grip on a Santa Cruz deck though. Sorry kid, of credibility.
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https://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM
Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha
Thank you.
This was fucking awesome.
Can't trust a dude rocking Powell Peralta grip on a Santa Cruz deck though. Sorry kid, of credibility.
Idk how anybody could watch this for more than 30 secs
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What else you got going on? Had to take a break from pro skater conspiracies and guessing if biebel is on roidz
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CJJNbTuF5YC/?igshid=1hgbqkg5gorhd
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Damn I want those rowleys. Had xlts when I was a kid. And they ripped so fast. My mom was so bummed. I want these but I got crocketts coming.
XLTs, bummin moms since 2001, yo
Those Quasi Crocketts with the navy/green colorway were fucking excellent.
Skating them now. Love the little cowboy Gilbert keychain
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I’m going to cut and paste this from my insta about the Gil Highs.
I am so fucking picky about shoes. It’s a curse. I have been this way my whole life… I made my Mother cry over Duffs that were half size too big. My Dad threw airwalks at me on the front lawn. The first time I spent over 100 bucks was on Bo Jackson Nike Trainers in grade 8, my mom had to lie to my dad about the price. Anyhoo, the past few years I can not find a cup sole skate shoe that fits or feels right. I think vans pro highs are their sleeper shoe. It is perfect. But I CAN NOT rock a vulc shoe with my bunk back. All I want is a bouncy feeling sole with a supportive insole. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY a shoe I can put on and not think about. Which seems to be impossible as they all slip at the heel or have a puffy tongue that feels weird when tied up. Or one foot feels tight and the other loose, or they are too slim and it feels like my feet are being choked.
I am happy to say my search is over. The Gilbert Crocket High is the best feeling shoe I have put on since Vans Fairlanes in the mid 90’s. I’m telling you this is the shoe. Put it on, tie it up, feel the comfort, and most importantly forget you have them on.
After reading this post and many others about the high praise of Crockett Highs, I finally pulled the trigger. Came a day after Christmas but the wait was well worth it. You hit the nail on the head on my feelings as well of never being satisfied with the shoe you're wearing till now. These Crockett's are the truth. I bought the green quasi cw and now searching for the all black cw in my size.
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I’m going to cut and paste this from my insta about the Gil Highs.
I am so fucking picky about shoes. It’s a curse. I have been this way my whole life… I made my Mother cry over Duffs that were half size too big. My Dad threw airwalks at me on the front lawn. The first time I spent over 100 bucks was on Bo Jackson Nike Trainers in grade 8, my mom had to lie to my dad about the price. Anyhoo, the past few years I can not find a cup sole skate shoe that fits or feels right. I think vans pro highs are their sleeper shoe. It is perfect. But I CAN NOT rock a vulc shoe with my bunk back. All I want is a bouncy feeling sole with a supportive insole. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY a shoe I can put on and not think about. Which seems to be impossible as they all slip at the heel or have a puffy tongue that feels weird when tied up. Or one foot feels tight and the other loose, or they are too slim and it feels like my feet are being choked.
I am happy to say my search is over. The Gilbert Crocket High is the best feeling shoe I have put on since Vans Fairlanes in the mid 90’s. I’m telling you this is the shoe. Put it on, tie it up, feel the comfort, and most importantly forget you have them on.
After reading this post and many others about the high praise of Crockett Highs, I finally pulled the trigger. Came a day after Christmas but the wait was well worth it. You hit the nail on the head on my feelings as well of never being satisfied with the shoe you're wearing till now. These Crockett's are the truth. I bought the green quasi cw and now searching for the all black cw in my size.
where are the green quasi still in stock?
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I’m going to cut and paste this from my insta about the Gil Highs.
I am so fucking picky about shoes. It’s a curse. I have been this way my whole life… I made my Mother cry over Duffs that were half size too big. My Dad threw airwalks at me on the front lawn. The first time I spent over 100 bucks was on Bo Jackson Nike Trainers in grade 8, my mom had to lie to my dad about the price. Anyhoo, the past few years I can not find a cup sole skate shoe that fits or feels right. I think vans pro highs are their sleeper shoe. It is perfect. But I CAN NOT rock a vulc shoe with my bunk back. All I want is a bouncy feeling sole with a supportive insole. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY a shoe I can put on and not think about. Which seems to be impossible as they all slip at the heel or have a puffy tongue that feels weird when tied up. Or one foot feels tight and the other loose, or they are too slim and it feels like my feet are being choked.
I am happy to say my search is over. The Gilbert Crocket High is the best feeling shoe I have put on since Vans Fairlanes in the mid 90’s. I’m telling you this is the shoe. Put it on, tie it up, feel the comfort, and most importantly forget you have them on.
After reading this post and many others about the high praise of Crockett Highs, I finally pulled the trigger. Came a day after Christmas but the wait was well worth it. You hit the nail on the head on my feelings as well of never being satisfied with the shoe you're wearing till now. These Crockett's are the truth. I bought the green quasi cw and now searching for the all black cw in my size.
Ordered them from this shop in San Diego. Surprisingly they had all sizes available last week when I ordered them. Looks like only 9.5 and 12s are left. Usually if I'm looking for a specific piece of gear I just put it into Google images and have been able to find some good deals and stock from shops that I wouldn't normally ever find.
https://www.artsandrecstore.com/collections/vans/products/vans-crockett-high-pro-black?variant=32045465796719
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Cosign on Crockett Highs, still skating a pair I've had since September. Very comfy, put Lunarlons in it if you have them ;)
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Can't find a mention of the KWalks 2 & that makes me happy
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How long did it take to break in the K walks? Tried to skate them right out of the box today that was a bad idea , ultracush hd
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K Walk 1s look very nice and designed with practicality and durability in mind. K Walk 2s are Live Love Laugh lifestyle activewear for soccer moms. Also, every insole has rap lyrics with the N word subliminally printed underneath, which makes his heartfelt apology seem less than sincere, to say the least.
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This ultracush is stiff as shit, do these get better with time?
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This ultracush is stiff as shit, do these get better with time?
That's been my experience with it too. In fact I think it gets harder over time. A lot of people don't like how squishy the Popcush is but I personally like it more. Different strokes but it is kinda weird that Vans insoles are so different from one version to the next
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This ultracush is stiff as shit, do these get better with time?
I've had ultracush insoles that are very firm and very soft.
I've had popcush insoles that are very firm and very soft.
They both suck ass.
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I don’t know how you guys have such hypersensitivity to insoles. Popcush seems nice in each shoe I have it in. A vulc New Balance shoe could use something like it, imo.
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What’s the word on the new classic skate? Redesigned? New fit? Maybe it’s just a collection as per the caption below
Was already posted in upcoming shoe thread but seeing if there’s any more detail
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJrjz3bl2Ng/?igshid=1m4bs11moreo3 (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJrjz3bl2Ng/?igshid=1m4bs11moreo3)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJrRZf2gYFj/?igshid=bgeatab861cl (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJrRZf2gYFj/?igshid=bgeatab861cl)
Edit: hmm doesn’t seem like anything too new minus this last piece
(https://i.ibb.co/Bt6s55S/82-E506-C6-0-AE2-461-D-9-EC3-E9-D741-E4-DED3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Bt6s55S)
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Wait, so the Pro line is being replaced by the Skate line? And are they really calling it the “Skate Sk8 Hi”?
Good job, Vans. You’ve managed to confuse your customers again.
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Wait, so the Pro line is being replaced by the Skate line? And are they really calling it the “Skate Sk8 Hi”?
Good job, Vans. You’ve managed to confuse your customers again.
yeah pretty confusing. Per IG comment from a vans employee, sounds like these will be worldwide at core shops in the new “Skate Classics build” in these colors
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I'm still just waiting for some new/good Skate Sk8 lo-pro colorways...
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Wait, so the Pro line is being replaced by the Skate line? And are they really calling it the “Skate Sk8 Hi”?
Good job, Vans. You’ve managed to confuse your customers again.
Hahaha. And Skate SK8 Low if they keep making them?
That Homegrown shop in upstate NY has this to say about the Old Skool, at least:
Vans Skate Old Skool
Completely redesigned with skaters in mind, the all-new Skate Classics line delivers more of what skaters need to enable maximum progression.
The new sidewall finish, checkerboard flag, and “Skateboarding” branding are some of the subtle differences that enhance the iconic style skaters need to enable maximum progression.
The fully revised upper, molded heel counter, locked-in tongue straps, and a recut of the DURACAP underlay offer an essential fit that is more breathable and durable where skaters need it most.
The two-part foxing, featuring a tougher toe knurl, ensures heightened board contact, and the redesigned gum rubber sole that made Vans famous has been made even better with the SickStick rubber compound, plus an internal heel shank to deliver more grip, more boardfeel, more support, and more durability.
The all-new Skate Classics give you the look you want—with the performance benefits that real skaters demand. SKATE CLASSICS ARE MADE FOR SKATEBOARDING.
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They can miss me with that canvas slip-on
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Hey revising your classic shoes is one thing but this dumbing down the "pro" line to instead add "skateboarding" and "skate skate skate" instead is an insult to skaters intelligence if you ask me.
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How long did it take to break in the K walks? Tried to skate them right out of the box today that was a bad idea , ultracush hd
I've skated 4+ pairs of Kwalks 1 (Ultracush HD) and I would personally say a couple sessions, ~5 - 6 hours of skating total maybe. They can get pretty flexible in the first session depending on how hard you skate/what you skate. I usually liked skating a park in them first.
Each pair, I pretty much walked around in them for a couple days first. That helped.
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wait, are those replacing the Pro Classics or are those just a new series?
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IT’S NOT COOL UNLESS IT SAY SKATEBOARDING ON IT. Maybe they are trying to tap into to that “camp out in front of the shop for half a week” market like Nike or to a lesser extent Adidas. Can’t wait to cop a pair of fuzzy neon Half Cab’s.
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Unless that canvas on the side is more durable I have no idea what is happening here.
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Wait, so the Pro line is being replaced by the Skate line? And are they really calling it the “Skate Sk8 Hi”?
Good job, Vans. You’ve managed to confuse your customers again.
Hahaha. And Skate SK8 Low if they keep making them?
That Homegrown shop in upstate NY has this to say about the Old Skool, at least:
Vans Skate Old Skool
Completely redesigned with skaters in mind, the all-new Skate Classics line delivers more of what skaters need to enable maximum progression.
The new sidewall finish, checkerboard flag, and “Skateboarding” branding are some of the subtle differences that enhance the iconic style skaters need to enable maximum progression.
The fully revised upper, molded heel counter, locked-in tongue straps, and a recut of the DURACAP underlay offer an essential fit that is more breathable and durable where skaters need it most.
The two-part foxing, featuring a tougher toe knurl, ensures heightened board contact, and the redesigned gum rubber sole that made Vans famous has been made even better with the SickStick rubber compound, plus an internal heel shank to deliver more grip, more boardfeel, more support, and more durability.
The all-new Skate Classics give you the look you want—with the performance benefits that real skaters demand. SKATE CLASSICS ARE MADE FOR SKATEBOARDING.
This seems like the obvious buying point here. The gum rubber on the Rowan Pro lasts almost twice as long as any other Vans Pro that I've skated, so it seems that they're just taking some technology that they know works and putting it into other classic models. Confusing marketing for sure though.
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To try and reduce some of the confusion, my understanding is that 'Skate Classics' will be replacing 'Pro Classics.' To recap the quote someone posted earlier in less brand-speak...
Actual/functional changes:
- a heel shank (a rigid piece under the insole to keep the sole more stable in that area - see the AVE Pro for an example)
- Tongue-centering straps on the Old Skool
- New rubber compound on the sole (same one they used on the Rowan Pro)
- recut the Duracap (a big pet peeve of mine - most Pro Vans have way too much rubber under the canvas/suede, and it messes up the fit)
Cosmetic/less noticeable changes:
- Checkerboard fabric tag (unclear if this is permanent or just on the first round of Skate Classics)
- Sole sidewalls will have a shiny finish (similar to the Anaheim Factory line)
- The rubber piece on the toe will have a rougher texture
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They have a Sport model that's part of the new Skate Classics line
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/HEKB9M-HERO?$330x330$)
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-skate/skate-sport-black-gum (https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-skate/skate-sport-black-gum)
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People are so brainwashed by Vans, this is literally saying "Hey we know we keep fucking up and changing the insoles/fits of our shoes so here's a complete rebrand of the same shit but changed again... Hopefully they dont hurt your feet!".
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I love vans but jesus christ with these fucking changes that arent really changes but might be changes and could possibly be changes. I just like Sk8 high pros and Half Cab pros.
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not feeling these colorways.
everything else sounds like a improvement.
I think. I am not sure. this is all a bit confusing.
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People are so brainwashed by Vans, this is literally saying "Hey we know we keep fucking up and changing the insoles/fits of our shoes so here's a complete rebrand of the same shit but changed again... Hopefully they dont hurt your feet!".
Hit the nail on the head.
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People are so brainwashed by Vans, this is literally saying "Hey we know we keep fucking up and changing the insoles/fits of our shoes so here's a complete rebrand of the same shit but changed again... Hopefully they dont hurt your feet!".
Hit the nail on the head.
100%
Last 2 pairs of Vans I've skated had been a disappointment: kwalks 2 and Rowan's. Don't get me wrong, Rowan's shoe are awesome but these ones feel super stiff on my right foot only. Super weird.
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People are so brainwashed by Vans, this is literally saying "Hey we know we keep fucking up and changing the insoles/fits of our shoes so here's a complete rebrand of the same shit but changed again... Hopefully they dont hurt your feet!".
Hit the nail on the head.
Last 2 pairs of Vans I've skated had been a disappointment: kwalks 2 and Rowan's. Don't get me wrong, Rowan's shoe are awesome but these ones feel super stiff on my right foot only. Super weird.
I kinda felt the same about my white suede/gum sole Rowans. They felt really stiff. The first color released, blue mesh with white sole, were perfect. I have a brand new pair in the box for this summer
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Huh... interesting development. I do like the all black colorways with white laces at least. Does anyone know if they're going to do this with Halfcabs too?
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Dig the colorways but super hesitant to try them. Ever since they switched to popcush, shoes that I've been skating for years with no problems, have suddenly been giving me blisters. Might have to steer clear of any "pro" or "skate" line and stick to the classics
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Dig the colorways but super hesitant to try them. Ever since they switched to popcush, shoes that I've been skating for years with no problems, have suddenly been giving me blisters. Might have to steer clear of any "pro" or "skate" line and stick to the classics
I have been stripping out the footbed on the classics for a long time and putting in my special old Vans pro insoles from way back that make everything feel like it did in the TNT2 shoes.
The classic shoes have a stiffer sole and to me last longer than the pro versions, but everyone is different.
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that shiny outsole will definitely improve my kickturns
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Huh... interesting development. I do like the all black colorways with white laces at least. Does anyone know if they're going to do this with Halfcabs too?
Just speculation on my part, but I would think the Half Cabs would be included as well, since it wouldn't make sense to revamp the entire line, but leave just one shoe the same. Wouldn't surprise me if they replaced the regular Half Cab Pro with the Half Cab Pro '92 (the Uprise Half Cab), which we already know they're using for the upcoming Reynolds Half Cab colourway. This would appease my complaints that the Half Cab pro has a bad shape and doesn't look right.
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I’m surprised they aren’t just giving Reynolds his own damn shoe.
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I’m surprised they aren’t just giving Reynolds his own damn shoe.
I actually think a Vans Reynolds model would be weird. Happy to just see him put his name on some classics colorways.
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Seems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.
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I’m surprised they aren’t just giving Reynolds his own damn shoe.
Nah.
He’d make a great shoe that would sell really well.
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Seems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.
but they keep making TNT shoes/colorways?
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I used to love Vans for their iconic and timeless shoe-designs.
But nowadays it seems like, theyre trying to jump on the tech bandwagon. Ii bet a lot of you like the new shoes they have put out in the recent years, but in my opinion they just lost their iconic design.
I don't see an issue honestly, there's a market for the techy shoes, and it's better for people in that market to buy vans (Which is present for local scenes supporting contests, giveaways, etc.) rather than a corporate brand that does barley anything for skating, and vans still make classic shoes that aren't techy
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If Hawkman ain't getting a shoe model, I doubt Reynolds would. I'm fine with whatever shoe the pro prefers and they get a colorway out of it. Nice happy medium for the aging pros. Plus doesn't cost Vans a whole lot for R&D and keeps interest in the Vans classic models for older gen of skaters who recognize a familiar name but might not have bought or jumped ship from Vans for various reasons. Keep the new vans models for the up and coming pro's.
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Seems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.
Maybe TNT is also in the same category as the lifers, as he has been on Vans (and almost all his tier one sponsors Antihero, Indy, Spitfire, Jessup, etc) since day dot, but even if he is not liked on here so much, he is still a big seller for them in general and still has a big following.
Apart from classic Half Cabs and some Half Cab pro shoes, the various TNT shoes are a close second if not top for the highest number of pairs of signature shoes I have had over the years, mainly TNT, TNT2, TNT4, TNT5 and a few models of the other versions, but I think maybe classic Old Skools / Old Skool pro would probably be the number one overall.
Thankfully I don't need any more shoes any time soon, but these new "skate" versions could go either way really, depending on how people find the fit of them. I still like the current fit of Half Cabs, both classic and pro, which feel so comfortable all over for my feet, but everyone is different.
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Seems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.
Maybe TNT is also in the same category as the lifers, as he has been on Vans (and almost all his tier one sponsors Antihero, Indy, Spitfire, Jessup, etc) since day dot, but even if he is not liked on here so much, he is still a big seller for them in general and still has a big following.
Apart from classic Half Cabs and some Half Cab pro shoes, the various TNT shoes are a close second if not top for the highest number of pairs of signature shoes I have had over the years, mainly TNT, TNT2, TNT4, TNT5 and a few models of the other versions, but I think maybe classic Old Skools / Old Skool pro would probably be the number one overall.
Thankfully I don't need any more shoes any time soon, but these new "skate" versions could go either way really, depending on how people find the fit of them. I still like the current fit of Half Cabs, both classic and pro, which feel so comfortable all over for my feet, but everyone is different.
I think it's likely that TNT is now kinda like Jack Purcell or Chuck Taylor. People know the shoe but don't necessarily know the person the shoe was named after. Like you pointed out, there's been a TNT shoe for years now and I wouldn't be surprised if some people just always look for the TNT model when they go to pick up a new pair of Vans.
Up until recently, I hadn't seen TNT footage since the release of the most recent shoe which was at least a few years ago now. I would imagine that Vans has metrics that tell them to keep giving the dude shoes even if he isn't really that productive anymore.
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Seems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.
Maybe TNT is also in the same category as the lifers, as he has been on Vans (and almost all his tier one sponsors Antihero, Indy, Spitfire, Jessup, etc) since day dot, but even if he is not liked on here so much, he is still a big seller for them in general and still has a big following.
Apart from classic Half Cabs and some Half Cab pro shoes, the various TNT shoes are a close second if not top for the highest number of pairs of signature shoes I have had over the years, mainly TNT, TNT2, TNT4, TNT5 and a few models of the other versions, but I think maybe classic Old Skools / Old Skool pro would probably be the number one overall.
Thankfully I don't need any more shoes any time soon, but these new "skate" versions could go either way really, depending on how people find the fit of them. I still like the current fit of Half Cabs, both classic and pro, which feel so comfortable all over for my feet, but everyone is different.
Up until recently, I hadn't seen TNT footage since the release of the most recent shoe which was at least a few years ago now. I would imagine that Vans has metrics that tell them to keep giving the dude shoes even if he isn't really that productive anymore.
I think in one of TNTs IG stories/posts when the Advanced Prototype was about to come out/just came out, he was commenting on how other riders were stoked he got a model and it had the new 3D Ultracush insole. TNT practically didn't care/know what was under the hood in his pro shoe! Just stoked to skate. Which was so funny because it gives the impression Van's felt the shoe would be a hit and they were just giving it to TNT, since his name can sell the silhouette. Just along for the ride in his own world with skating and music haha!
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Seems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.
That's exactly what I mean - I don't care for TNT at all, but he's been on Vans forever, and had a pile of previous pro models on Vans (some of which sold very well), so he gets pro models. Or at least got pro models - I'd be surprised if he gets another one. If TNT had spent his whole career on Emerica, then got on Vans last year; he wouldn't get a pro model now. Not to say TNT is equivalent to Reynolds, but their status in the Vans hierarchy is different.
TNT got his first pro model when he was young, then stayed on Vans and stayed productive/relevant for a long time, so he got more. Seems like the guys with pro models on Vans right now all follow a trajectory along those lines, and are just at various stages of it:
1) Skaters just entering their prime who recently got their first pro model (Berle, Rowan)
2) More established skaters who still have some gas in the tank and are now on their second or third pro model (Chima, Kyle Walker, Crockett)
3) Skaters who have been on forever and had a whole bunch of pro models (AVE, Rowley, TNT, Cab)
Whether or not Reynolds deserves it is a separate debate; I'm just saying I don't see it happening because it doesn't fit the way Vans usually decides who gets a pro model. Outside of AVE, there is nobody with a Vans pro shoe who had a long tenure or a pro model on another shoe brand that I'm aware of.
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tnt 5 was a pretty good shoe. i didn't like the sgs a lot. some earlier models were pretty cool, too. the newest isn't my thing.
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A dr t would be so dope rn
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Anyone know if vans is gonna drop another colorway of the Rowley RapidWeld pro with the waffle cup that’s not all black or the navy one currently? Why can’t company’s just make a black upper and white sole?!
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CJzEEsAlXLn/?igshid=nvhem8hug86d
Ground up rebuild
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A dr t would be so dope rn
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A dr t would be so dope rn
Would also be on board. Van Wastell had such sick footage in those.
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Anyone know if vans is gonna drop another colorway of the Rowley RapidWeld pro with the waffle cup that’s not all black or the navy one currently? Why can’t company’s just make a black upper and white sole?!
I've been asking myself the same question for years.
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A dr t would be so dope rn
Yes, yes very true
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Link broken or post deleted - now you got my curiosity I want to know what it was...
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Link broken or post deleted - now you got my curiosity I want to know what it was...
employee of vans skate talking about his 3rd year st the company and this project rebuilding this new skate classics line being a ton of work
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Link broken or post deleted - now you got my curiosity I want to know what it was...
Thanks! I recall talking to a guy who was helping with things and he couldn't believe some of the people in such important positions didn't know a thing about skateboarding, so was wondering how they could ever be the ones successfully designing skateboarding shoes. It might be a good thing that actual skaters are being involved in the process.
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Link broken or post deleted - now you got my curiosity I want to know what it was...
Thanks! I recall talking to a guy who was helping with things and he couldn't believe some of the people in such important positions didn't know a thing about skateboarding, so was wondering how they could ever be the ones successfully designing skateboarding shoes. It might be a good thing that actual skaters are being involved in the process.
More reason for me to feel happy in my cupsoles from es, etnies, lakai, and NB#, where actual skateboarders are involved when making their shoes!! ;D
But this new rebuild of skate classics is utterly baffling. Vans loves using jargon that confuses the hell out of people.
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PSA: vans Australia website has Ave pro’s for $50, down from $200!
I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Ave’s.
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PSA: vans Australia website has Ave pro’s for $50, down from $200!
I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Ave’s.
Don't mind if I do!!!!!
I had been so good and not bought anything even though I get the emails and from Black Friday, all the pro classic range were down to $100 and I had a further 20% off as VIP / email, so Sk8 hi pro were $80 so I added to the cart and sat on lots until the offer ended.
This one however is too much of a deal / curiosity to pass up, so I got what might be the last two size 12 and two size 11 also just to check and see which is better, but I have others I skate with I can always pass them on to.
White with black stripe and that blue inner / clear sole is a bit weird, which is why I never looked at them before, but lets see how they fit.
https://www.vans.com.au/ave-pro-blanc-de-blanc-blk-vna4bt7uy6-wht.html
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PSA: vans Australia website has Ave pro’s for $50, down from $200!
I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Ave’s.
Don't mind if I do!!!!!
I had been so good and not bought anything even though I get the emails and from Black Friday, all the pro classic range were down to $100 and I had a further 20% off as VIP / email, so Sk8 hi pro were $80 so I added to the cart and sat on lots until the offer ended.
This one however is too much of a deal / curiosity to pass up, so I got what might be the last two size 12 and two size 11 also just to check and see which is better, but I have others I skate with I can always pass them on to.
White with black stripe and that blue inner / clear sole is a bit weird, which is why I never looked at them before, but lets see how they fit.
https://www.vans.com.au/ave-pro-blanc-de-blanc-blk-vna4bt7uy6-wht.html
Glad i could share the love!
Also, didn’t realise you were aussie!! Whereabouts in Oz you in?
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PSA: vans Australia website has Ave pro’s for $50, down from $200!
I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Ave’s.
Don't mind if I do!!!!!
I had been so good and not bought anything even though I get the emails and from Black Friday, all the pro classic range were down to $100 and I had a further 20% off as VIP / email, so Sk8 hi pro were $80 so I added to the cart and sat on lots until the offer ended.
This one however is too much of a deal / curiosity to pass up, so I got what might be the last two size 12 and two size 11 also just to check and see which is better, but I have others I skate with I can always pass them on to.
White with black stripe and that blue inner / clear sole is a bit weird, which is why I never looked at them before, but lets see how they fit.
https://www.vans.com.au/ave-pro-blanc-de-blanc-blk-vna4bt7uy6-wht.html
Glad i could share the love!
Also, didn’t realise you were aussie!! Whereabouts in Oz you in?
Brisbane, or at least Brisbane born and bred, now still in QLD but an hour south south west.
There are actually quite a few Aussies here I have found.
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PSA: vans Australia website has Ave pro’s for $50, down from $200!
I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Ave’s.
Don't mind if I do!!!!!
I had been so good and not bought anything even though I get the emails and from Black Friday, all the pro classic range were down to $100 and I had a further 20% off as VIP / email, so Sk8 hi pro were $80 so I added to the cart and sat on lots until the offer ended.
This one however is too much of a deal / curiosity to pass up, so I got what might be the last two size 12 and two size 11 also just to check and see which is better, but I have others I skate with I can always pass them on to.
White with black stripe and that blue inner / clear sole is a bit weird, which is why I never looked at them before, but lets see how they fit.
https://www.vans.com.au/ave-pro-blanc-de-blanc-blk-vna4bt7uy6-wht.html
Glad i could share the love!
Also, didn’t realise you were aussie!! Whereabouts in Oz you in?
Brisbane, or at least Brisbane born and bred, now still in QLD but an hour south south west.
There are actually quite a few Aussies here I have found.
Yep I got two pairs as well .. didn't need shoes but yeah couldn't pass on that price
Mrbrimson i see now that's paddo in your avatar ;D
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I’ve said it already.
Vans authentic pro are fucking terrible. I’ve had them for 6 months, worn them twice and hated every minute of it. I may be walking away from vans indefinitely.
Can’t imagine skating in them.
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I’ve said it already.
Vans authentic pro are fucking terrible. I’ve had them for 6 months, worn them twice and hated every minute of it. I may be walking away from vans indefinitely.
Can’t imagine skating in them.
They just feel so much longer and flatter than the classics. I was recently gifted the wrapped suede authentic pros and they feel closer to the originals. Hoping the new skate authentics finally hit the mark.
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I’ve said it already.
Vans authentic pro are fucking terrible. I’ve had them for 6 months, worn them twice and hated every minute of it. I may be walking away from vans indefinitely.
Can’t imagine skating in them.
They just feel so much longer and flatter than the classics. I was recently gifted the wrapped suede authentic pros and they feel closer to the originals. Hoping the new skate authentics finally hit the mark.
They were one of the shoes that were definitely on the upgrade list.
In mine, the heel area got stretched so they didn't want to stay on my feet, so I used some off cut strips from Footprint insoles and stitched them into the top back of the heel, to make them more like Eras and it works a treat. I couldn't imagine that many other people would go to that extent just to wear some shoes, but they are the all black suede so are more my chiller and going out shoes than anything else. I definitely like the padded collar of Era, Old Skool, etc.
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These Kyle walkers are getting softer now starting to enjoy them a bit, still can't skate in them yet.
Y'all werent lying my feet are SWEATIN
Picked up the sk8 low in all black for my friend for under 50 they looked really good, should have gotten a pair for myself
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I’ve said it already.
Vans authentic pro are fucking terrible. I’ve had them for 6 months, worn them twice and hated every minute of it. I may be walking away from vans indefinitely.
Can’t imagine skating in them.
They just feel so much longer and flatter than the classics. I was recently gifted the wrapped suede authentic pros and they feel closer to the originals. Hoping the new skate authentics finally hit the mark.
They were one of the shoes that were definitely on the upgrade list.
In mine, the heel area got stretched so they didn't want to stay on my feet, so I used some off cut strips from Footprint insoles and stitched them into the top back of the heel, to make them more like Eras and it works a treat. I couldn't imagine that many other people would go to that extent just to wear some shoes, but they are the all black suede so are more my chiller and going out shoes than anything else. I definitely like the padded collar of Era, Old Skool, etc.
Nice, I’ll give that a shot with some old insoles.
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I’ve said it already.
Vans authentic pro are fucking terrible. I’ve had them for 6 months, worn them twice and hated every minute of it. I may be walking away from vans indefinitely.
Can’t imagine skating in them.
They just feel so much longer and flatter than the classics. I was recently gifted the wrapped suede authentic pros and they feel closer to the originals. Hoping the new skate authentics finally hit the mark.
They were one of the shoes that were definitely on the upgrade list.
In mine, the heel area got stretched so they didn't want to stay on my feet, so I used some off cut strips from Footprint insoles and stitched them into the top back of the heel, to make them more like Eras and it works a treat. I couldn't imagine that many other people would go to that extent just to wear some shoes, but they are the all black suede so are more my chiller and going out shoes than anything else. I definitely like the padded collar of Era, Old Skool, etc.
Nice, I’ll give that a shot with some old insoles.
That was from when the insoles needed cutting down to fit in the shoes, rather than cutting up old insoles, but anything that is a bit more high density foam or rubber type of material would work. I keep way too much of everything in the belief that some day I might need to use something, but in this case it worked really well.
I had heard of others cutting up old eras or old skools for the ankle padding part too, but that was a bit harder to sew on.
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PSA: vans Australia website has Ave pro’s for $50, down from $200!
I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Ave’s.
Don't mind if I do!!!!!
I had been so good and not bought anything even though I get the emails and from Black Friday, all the pro classic range were down to $100 and I had a further 20% off as VIP / email, so Sk8 hi pro were $80 so I added to the cart and sat on lots until the offer ended.
This one however is too much of a deal / curiosity to pass up, so I got what might be the last two size 12 and two size 11 also just to check and see which is better, but I have others I skate with I can always pass them on to.
White with black stripe and that blue inner / clear sole is a bit weird, which is why I never looked at them before, but lets see how they fit.
https://www.vans.com.au/ave-pro-blanc-de-blanc-blk-vna4bt7uy6-wht.html
Glad i could share the love!
Also, didn’t realise you were aussie!! Whereabouts in Oz you in?
Brisbane, or at least Brisbane born and bred, now still in QLD but an hour south south west.
There are actually quite a few Aussies here I have found.
Sweet...im in sydney.
Have you got the Ave’s yet. Got mine in the mail today, just got back from a skate...i dont know if its the new shoe grip etc...but these shoes feel great, im able to stick a lot more of my tricks than with other shoes.
The only issue with is I cant wear my lace-up ankle braces. These shoes are really low cut and my feet feel like they will pop out of the heel with ankle braces, so will have to work something out with that i guess.
But my verdict...Ave’s are great shoes.
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Sweet...im in sydney.
Have you got the Ave’s yet. Got mine in the mail today, just got back from a skate...i dont know if its the new shoe grip etc...but these shoes feel great, im able to stick a lot more of my tricks than with other shoes.
The only issue with is I cant wear my lace-up ankle braces. These shoes are really low cut and my feet feel like they will pop out of the heel with ankle braces, so will have to work something out with that i guess.
But my verdict...Ave’s are great shoes.
Supposed to be here tomorrow, so super quick on the shipping from Melbourne it seems, or at least that is one part of the order, so I am not sure if that is going to be all of it or just some of it or what.
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I got my order from vans Tuesday these Aves are really nice definitely glad I got two pairs
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Skate classics half cab
The shiny texture in the midsole is to reduce dirt. These are obviously black like the other skate classics models to release. But it’s the same as used on Rowan’s but there was feedback to those attracting too much dirt. So the shiny texture reduces that
Note the foxing reduced a few mm to match closer to the normal classics
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ9cVUOnwxU/?igshid=1h3hos0hs93gs (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ9cVUOnwxU/?igshid=1h3hos0hs93gs)
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Got the new Skate Sk8 Hi yesterday. It’s early and I haven’t skated in them yet, but they feel very solid. The canvas pieces have been replaced with something I can’t quite figure out, but it feels extremely durable—almost like a waxed jacket. The insole seems to be of the same Popcush compound, but feels sturdier from a structural standpoint. They sit a bit lower and flatter (the sides don’t come up as much) and the bottom has its own little waffle print thing going. As for the fit, new Vans always feel a little big at first and then fit like a glove once they bend to my feet. These are in line with my past experiences with classic Sk8 His—ever so slightly roomier in the toes. I will say that the heel feels much more secure.
I’ve tried to attach pictures, so hopefully they work. The new insole is on the left.
(https://i.ibb.co/P5gtWGV/1-F0-E2031-B48-F-4-E1-B-9974-411-A19-C9-BF18.jpg) (https://ibb.co/P5gtWGV)(https://i.ibb.co/Vq1tY4L/C12-B2-BC6-A501-4-B94-B7-D1-4-F5-CD3704-C44.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Vq1tY4L)
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https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?
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Skate classics half cab
The shiny texture in the midsole is to reduce dirt. These are obviously black like the other skate classics models to release. But it’s the same as used on Rowan’s but there was feedback to those attracting too much dirt. So the shiny texture reduces that
Note the foxing reduced a few mm to match closer to the normal classics
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ9cVUOnwxU/?igshid=1h3hos0hs93gs (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ9cVUOnwxU/?igshid=1h3hos0hs93gs)
Loved half cabs once... absolute best pair of I ever had were the Classics VANS HALF CAB 33 DX 'ANAHEIM FACTORY' - extra high and shiny foxing, heavier suede than normal, OG toe cap shape and a flat ultracush sheet (I put an insole on top in these as there’s room in the cut for me otherwise) Honestly even after nearly holing the kickflip toe rubber they had a bit of structure still.
The Croc ‘92 pros I got after this were beyond disappointing, like rubber slipper socks, little round balls on your heel (to tweak you anytime) and pretty much no “mid” support at all - swore off Vans/Vulcs for good after this except for pissing around in for 5 mins tops feeling all styley.
Sounds like they’re trying... but too much of a crapshoot for me now. Old man whining.
I daren’t try the AVEs or Crockett hi’s as no doubt with short runs/small feet syndrome I’ll never be able to replace a pair I found just right....
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https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?
All they did was remove eyelets man, I wear some of my authentics without laces for the beach; no new design so not really a rip-off
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ_q5-SDmYm/
"The all new @vansskate Skate Sport Pro, a new take on a classic style skate shoe."
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https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?
Definitely looks that way, but so many shoes with laces taken out will have that same sort of look, as already pointed out, but none every look that smooth and suave, do they?
New Berle pro shoe? *
* Sorry I couldn't help myself.
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https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?
Definitely looks that way, but so many shoes with laces taken out will have that same sort of look, as already pointed out, but none every look that smooth and suave, do they?
New Berle pro shoe? *
* Sorry I couldn't help myself.
I'd cop the black pair.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ_q5-SDmYm/
"The all new @vansskate Skate Sport Pro, a new take on a classic style skate shoe."
I generally think most Vans shoes are garbage. Poor construction and terrible fit. I got some of these new Skate Sport Pros today. Much better construction/materials and very comfortable right out of the box. I am pretty stoked on this shoe.
The only thing I am not very stoked on is the single stitching on the toe. Oh, and most Vans shoes have an incredibly strong chemical smell when new. These take the chemical smell to new levels of instant headache when opening the box.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ_q5-SDmYm/
"The all new @vansskate Skate Sport Pro, a new take on a classic style skate shoe."
I generally think most Vans shoes are garbage. Poor construction and terrible fit. I got some of these new Skate Sport Pros today. Much better construction/materials and very comfortable right out of the box. I am pretty stoked on this shoe.
The only thing I am not very stoked on is the single stitching on the toe. Oh, and most Vans shoes have an incredibly strong chemical smell when new. These take the chemical smell to new levels of instant headache when opening the box.
I was looking at the sole and sidewall areas before, just wondering how different they would be, but I think that is a good review right there.
Note to self: Remember to open outside or in a well ventilated area though!
Speaking of ventilation, I usually take a tiny tube of superglue to the stitches in areas like that, just a very fine line over them so they are covered but don't look like a big old mess, so I am thinking that would be the best thing to do with that single front stitched area.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ_q5-SDmYm/
"The all new @vansskate Skate Sport Pro, a new take on a classic style skate shoe."
These look really nice. Could be a new blazer alternative? I love blazers but it’s hard to bring myself to buy a pair when I could go the vans outlet down the road and get two pairs for the price of one pair of blazers. Definitely gonna give these a shot.
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https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?
Definitely looks that way, but so many shoes with laces taken out will have that same sort of look, as already pointed out, but none every look that smooth and suave, do they?
New Berle pro shoe? *
* Sorry I couldn't help myself.
I'd cop the black pair.
definitely Dylan inspired...but at least they look better without the pointy toe cap...thats the thing that annoys me about the Dylans
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https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?
Dylan's sister not feelin em
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https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?
Dylan's sister not feelin em
(https://i.imgur.com/5lxtELY.png)
Good luck with that
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https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?
Dylan's sister not feelin em
(https://i.imgur.com/5lxtELY.png)
Good luck with that
(https://i.imgur.com/HBpQ6vs.png)
Not only that 👆, but I’m pretty sure the shoe company Frye was putting out a more similar version that was most likely where the gravis shoe was inspired from than the Vans version. Sorry to say, but his sister is trippin...
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Dylan also wore authentics alot, before and after Gravis fell apart. I'm not knocking her for defending her brother, but doing some basic Google searches shows how foolish she is making herself out to be.
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There are so many comments on the post, so not going to get into it, but have a laugh / look anyway if you are curious.
I wonder how many of them are actually old enough to know much, besides just saying "Dylan / Huf" blah blah blah.
They look clean and stylish, but I am more stoked on something I can do the laces up and have the shoe stay on my feet, but I am old and boring too, I guess.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKB4BKDLvhy/
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https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1
I know it’s a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylan’s slip on?
Dylan's sister not feelin em
(https://i.imgur.com/5lxtELY.png)
Yeah she's bummed lol. I get where she's coming from, but also understand that it really is an authentic with no lace eyelets.
There are so many comments on the post, so not going to get into it, but have a laugh / look anyway if you are curious.
I wonder how many of them are actually old enough to know much, besides just saying "Dylan / Huf" blah blah blah.
They look clean and stylish, but I am more stoked on something I can do the laces up and have the shoe stay on my feet, but I am old and boring too, I guess.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKB4BKDLvhy/
I'm sure most people are able to identify the Vans Authentic (even my mom can and she knows fuck all about sneakers). It's as classic a silhouette as the Chuck Taylor is imo. I think the issue here is that Dylan popularized this exact style of slip on in skateboarding and had a successful run of them on two different brands and now Vans is doing something similar (down to an oxblood ish color way) after Huf's shoe line is gone. I seem to also remember Alex Olson saying that the shoe they wanted to make on Vans for him was a rip off of Dylan's first shoe.
Not hating on Vans, I almost exclusively wear pros nowadays and if they release a pro version of this, I'll probably try it out. Just saying I see where these comments are coming from in a way.
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To add insult to injury, Dylan originated this shoe style in skating having borrowed it from Prada I believe and was shit on in the industry for it, including by people at Vans. Him and Huf gone, cash grab. Soft af.
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this is the frye shoe, which some believe Dylan took his "inspiration" from. It's even got the same little tab at the base of the tongue. c'mon
(https://di2ponv0v5otw.cloudfront.net/posts/2018/01/07/5a52502efcdc310a8400e333/m_5a5250551dffda1c3800de5b.jpg)
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Vans is a lame. This proves it. I get that Dylan didn’t invent it but he made it known in skateboarding. Now vans is ripping it off. Shit is lame.
It’s like frye is the nerves and the shoes are hanging on the telephone. Blondie (Dylan)covers it makes it popular Everyone thinks it’s her song. Then you got some other established band( vans) playing hanging on the telephone. Acting like it’s not a cover and they wrote it.
Fuck vans.
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Eh. Footwear companies pull from the same trends and style reports and wgsn future seasons all the time. It’s certainly not a trademarked style or model or anything. The other thread showed vans already releasing a leather pack of authentic slip ons years ago called the authentic gore dx
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Vans-Womens-Authentic-Gore-DX-Leather-Lifestyle-Slip-On-Sneakers/630885380?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=2805&&adid=22222222228397399856&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=484080531022&wl4=aud-1028050746458:pla-1056428583338&wl5=9002215&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=113510284&wl11=online&wl12=630885380&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAiAl4WABhAJEiwATUnEF9FM5wusrcYymMHydwnroP6JFlQmVNomFKTixtvZOx2de8JTb_bEDBoC00UQAvD_BwE
(https://www.slapmagazine.com/blob:https://www.slapmagazine.com/bba564a8-56d0-4528-bbd9-14a4a733c82b)
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The pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing
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The pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing
I don’t feel pain. I don’t feel anything but it is what it is. Didn’t wear Dylan’s won’t wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. You’re probably a hypocrite.
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They have those new skate classics at jacks garage
https://garageskateshop.com/collections/shoes/products/sk8-hi-pro-core-classic
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I don't skate in slip-ons and certainly would never partake in any skate slip-on related drama.
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The pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing
I don’t feel pain. I don’t feel anything but it is what it is. Didn’t wear Dylan’s won’t wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. You’re probably a hypocrite.
Dylan's shoe wasn't exactly unique
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The pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing
I don’t feel pain. I don’t feel anything but it is what it is. Didn’t wear Dylan’s won’t wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. You’re probably a hypocrite.
I did wear Dylan's and they don't fucking make them anymore so it is what it is. Dylan's shoe wasn't even an original design and Vans shoes are the most ripped off shoe in history.
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I love Dylan just as much as the next guy and I can kinda see where these people are coming from but calling the Van's model a rip off is pretty rich considering Dylan more or less ripped the design off from another shoe in the first place. Give Van's some slack, think about how often the Half Cab etc. is ripped off and they're not tripping.
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The pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing
I don’t feel pain. I don’t feel anything but it is what it is. Didn’t wear Dylan’s won’t wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. You’re probably a hypocrite.
Think Berle will be rocking these?
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The pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing
I don’t feel pain. I don’t feel anything but it is what it is. Didn’t wear Dylan’s won’t wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. You’re probably a hypocrite.
Think Berle will be rocking these?
Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.
Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?
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Think Berle will be rocking these?
Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.
Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?
Again y'all. This shoe is coming from the Wild West out East of Vans Japan where they seem to do fuckall with whatever they want inside Japan independent of the Vans' normal production and distribution. I heard they even use their own factories independent of the Vans we know. These aren't coming to America or Europe. This isn't Vans trying to step on Dylan's ground... it's just Vans Japan doing what they always seem to do, from Stan Smith ripoffs to AF1 ripoffs to even like Danner Boot ripoffs.
As for Berle, the Vans company that makes/gives shoes to him won't be making these, so I almost guarantee he will not be getting any of these unless he has a homie in Japan get them for him.
Only way you are getting them is if you have a homie in Japan buy them at ABC Mart and send them to you.
(That being said, are there any Slap Pals in Japan down to order me a pair in japan size 28??)
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The pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing
I don’t feel pain. I don’t feel anything but it is what it is. Didn’t wear Dylan’s won’t wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. You’re probably a hypocrite.
Think Berle will be rocking these?
I immediately think of that meme of the sweaty kid in class and it’s Berle trying not wear them.
This shoe completes his cosplay. It’s his wet dream that came alive
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Think Berle will be rocking these?
Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.
Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?
(That being said, are there any Slap Pals in Japan down to order me a pair in japan size 28??)
Thank you for making that clear. Also I need a Japan sz 28 as well. Preferably black.
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I havent seen them at my local shops yet but I think Beatrice is coming out with her own colorway of the "dylan slip ons" from what I seen on her insta. black leather with the pro insole in it.
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I havent seen them at my local shops yet but I think Beatrice is coming out with her own colorway of the "dylan slip ons" from what I seen on her insta. black leather with the pro insole in it.
I saw them too and was wondering:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50839068192_478911499e_z.jpg)
But to me they kinda look like the style Fear Of God did with them a few years back:
(https://images.solecollector.com/complex/images/c_crop,h_558,w_982,x_57,y_87/c_fill,dpr_2.0,f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto,w_800/qho0dzezk8gaen2lmsvx/fear-of-god-vans-style-147-red-black)
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The Beatrice shoe is a penny-loafer style, not a Dylan slip-on. Dylan did have that "driver shoe" on Huf that is sorta similar, but Beatrice's shoe is 100% a vulcanized penny loafer.
Edit: somewhat clearer shot from her insta:
(https://i.imgur.com/FsrVNDs.jpeg)
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The Beatrice shoe is a penny-loafer style, not a Dylan slip-on. Dylan did have that "driver shoe" on Huf that is sorta similar, but Beatrice's shoe is 100% a vulcanized penny loafer.
Edit: somewhat clearer shot from her insta:
(https://i.imgur.com/FsrVNDs.jpeg)
These are sick. Another vans to add to the collection, ha. Not to go totally off topic, but I’m loving the AVEs way more than I thought I would. Might grab a pair of beatrice’s colorway for the hell of it
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Think Berle will be rocking these?
Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.
Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?
Again y'all. This shoe is coming from the Wild West out East of Vans Japan where they seem to do fuckall with whatever they want inside Japan independent of the Vans' normal production and distribution. I heard they even use their own factories independent of the Vans we know. These aren't coming to America or Europe. This isn't Vans trying to step on Dylan's ground... it's just Vans Japan doing what they always seem to do, from Stan Smith ripoffs to AF1 ripoffs to even like Danner Boot ripoffs.
As for Berle, the Vans company that makes/gives shoes to him won't be making these, so I almost guarantee he will not be getting any of these unless he has a homie in Japan get them for him.
Only way you are getting them is if you have a homie in Japan buy them at ABC Mart and send them to you.
(That being said, are there any Slap Pals in Japan down to order me a pair in japan size 28??)
You need this guy...
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Think Berle will be rocking these?
Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.
Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?
(That being said, are there any Slap Pals in Japan down to order me a pair in japan size 28??)
Thank you for making that clear. Also I need a Japan sz 28 as well. Preferably black.
Whatever the equivalent of US 9.5 is I want a pair.
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Think Berle will be rocking these?
Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.
Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?
Again y'all. This shoe is coming from the Wild West out East of Vans Japan where they seem to do fuckall with whatever they want inside Japan independent of the Vans' normal production and distribution. I heard they even use their own factories independent of the Vans we know. These aren't coming to America or Europe. This isn't Vans trying to step on Dylan's ground... it's just Vans Japan doing what they always seem to do, from Stan Smith ripoffs to AF1 ripoffs to even like Danner Boot ripoffs.
As for Berle, the Vans company that makes/gives shoes to him won't be making these, so I almost guarantee he will not be getting any of these unless he has a homie in Japan get them for him.
Only way you are getting them is if you have a homie in Japan buy them at ABC Mart and send them to you.
(That being said, are there any Slap Pals in Japan down to order me a pair in japan size 28??)
I really don’t believe that if Berle asked Vans to get him these they wouldn’t have boxes of them on his doorstep, that said he has to be aware of his Dylan-isms and that people are onto it so I really can’t imagine him doing it.
At what point do AVE and Dill have to step in and have a conversation about his cosplay?
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Wasn’t the rumor that Berle was passed to let this one slide to push the tech and would be given more creative control for his 2nd shoe?
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inquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?
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inquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?
I had a pair of anaheim Sids that were also at least a half size smaller than every other pair of non-anaheim vans that i've had. So yeah, it's probably consistent across all anaheims.
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inquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?
Whoa, great info. I got some Anaheim Collection Sports in hopes of skating them, but they are definitely about a quarter size too small and smash my toes. I was really stressing out not knowing my shoe size.
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after a few weeks w the kyle walkers
wafflecup is legit
ultracush is too squishy and my feet move around too much
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inquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?
bless your soul, thanks.
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i tried on a pair of those kyle walker 2's at a nordstrom rack for shits and giggles.
whoever designed this shoe should be shot. felt so insecure on my foot not to mention looks terrible. strap didn't make the shoe feel locked in on my foot at all. no clue how these are still on shelves.
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They're for the moms.
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inquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?
bless your soul, thanks.
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i tried on a pair of those kyle walker 2's at a nordstrom rack for shits and giggles.
whoever designed this shoe should be shot. felt so insecure on my foot not to mention looks terrible. strap didn't make the shoe feel locked in on my foot at all. no clue how these are still on shelves.
Hopefully they're blowing them out and will just keep the first KWalks in the line. I was just reminiscing about Vans weird strappy slip-on phase from what last year? The year before? I was thinking in particular about the strap-on that came out before the KWalk2 that had the screen printed multicolor jazz stripe and how that shoe disappeared after one run. They have a BMX slip-on coming out which is just the regular slip upper with a wafflecup sole. I think that's what everyone who wanted a cup slip was asking for so hopefully they wind up feeling pretty good. Whatever Vans was trying before just didn't look good and I couldn't imagine how it would feel good either.
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do you think we will get any new models w the AVE sole
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inquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?
bless your soul, thanks.
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i tried on a pair of those kyle walker 2's at a nordstrom rack for shits and giggles.
whoever designed this shoe should be shot. felt so insecure on my foot not to mention looks terrible. strap didn't make the shoe feel locked in on my foot at all. no clue how these are still on shelves.
Kyle walker 2s are the worst pieces of shit since the Berles.
I kinda like the look and that's it. Performance wise they're horrible. Weird flick, sole lasts nothing, strap gets loose and toy can feel it on your feet. A complete disappointment since the 1s were really nice.
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has anyone seen the new all black skate halfcabs anywhere?
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some new colors on the Vans site now
Sport
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/HEK3JC-HERO?$510x510$)
Crockett
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/HES3EX-HERO?$510x510$)
and everyone's favorite in this thread, Walker 2
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/HETZFN-HERO?$510x510$)
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has anyone seen the new all black skate halfcabs anywhere?
Yeah, Reynolds' insta :P
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(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/HEV38Z-HERO?$583x583$)
New Rowan colorway got me feeling a certain way, nostalgic for my earlier years in skateboarding, and I didn't know why...
Then I remembered...
(https://www.videomaker.com/wp-content/uploads/drpl/blogposts/2007/02/20098792_l.gif)
Not mad at this riff at all.
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According to some guy on tiktok (via reddit)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vans/comments/la6mol/the_vans_pros_will_soon_be_gone_we_have_gotten/
Vans is discontinuing their pro classics and replacing the line with skate classics.
If you have a vans store homie, they get 75% off pro classics
but also the recall means, that the vans outlet will probably get pro classics pretty soon.
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Even bigger discounts coming
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Just when I thought I would NOT buy any more shoes...
Oh damn!
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Spotted Era/Authentic High's on Lizzie. Hopefully these come out and stay out some time this year
(https://i.imgur.com/rVwRcBo.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/PStSzGp.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/7skrEsW.png)
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^They put a couple of colorways of that shoe out with AA's name on them last year as the Authentic Hi.
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^They put a couple of colorways of that shoe out with AA's name on them last year as the Authentic Hi.
Those look so good! I regret not buying a pair when they were out. Hence why I'm excited for the ones Lizzie is wearing
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CNNHoS-hjvZ/?igshid=1b5j5qhv3wsp6
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Navy ones remind me how much I miss the 112 Pros.
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Navy ones remind me how much I miss the 112 Pros.
That was a fantastic show. Had em in all black and white/marshmallow
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Are they an old thing or coming out later.
Loving those full cabs.
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^They put a couple of colorways of that shoe out with AA's name on them last year as the Authentic Hi.
Still have the navy and blue boxed. Haven't found a special enough occasion for the AAs to grace my feet.
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all this talk of aching heels has me put off of the skate slip ons and old skools. i hate it when that happens. why even build a shoe like this. i thought the point of the new skateline to make the inner more seamless and socklike or something. yet you still have this achaic form of a heellock.
the full cabs look sick though, even though they messed it up with the checkerboard. honestly don't know why they don't reissue these more often. the old school toe cap half cab should be the standard and then they should drop full cabs twice a year or so imo.
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all this talk of aching heels has me put off of the skate slip ons and old skools. i hate it when that happens. why even build a shoe like this. i thought the point of the new skateline to make the inner more seamless and socklike or something. yet you still have this achaic form of a heellock.
the full cabs look sick though, even though they messed it up with the checkerboard. honestly don't know why they don't reissue these more often. the old school toe cap half cab should be the standard and then they should drop full cabs twice a year or so imo.
Dude yes! I’m wearing the slips right now and they are so uncomfortable, my heels are killing me. They feel so tight and I’ve been wearing them as chillers for two weeks now
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I skated in the Old-School "pros" and the Sk8-HIs "pros." I got a pair of the new SK8-HIs about two weeks ago. Normally when I get a new pair of shoes, I wear them for about two weeks before I even step on a board with them--I hate the "new" shoe feel on a board. So, I have not even skated in these yet. That said, here is my initial reactions to them. So far, most of it is negative.
(1) They are hot. Much hotter than the Pros.
(2) The tongue does not move, at all, because of the internal tongue straps. This is good, because I hated how the tongue would always slip around on the older versions. This also makes them much harder to put on/take off.
(3) I still have some pressure points around the little toe on one shoe. This never happened before with the Pros.
(4) Two weeks in and they still feel quite stiff, as in, not broken-in at all. Around two weeks is when I would normally start considering skating in the Pros. These do not feel like they are anywhere near "ready" yet. What that means long term remains to be seen. Further on this point, Vans always felt "comfy" to me, almost out of the box. These have not yet reached that state. When I got home from work last night I was dying to take them off. That never happened before with the Pros. I'll follow-up more as time goes on.
Anyone else had more in-depth experience with these yet?
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Authentics have been a wardrobe staple for me for many years, and then I switched to Authentic Pros for as long as they’ve been out. Got my first pair of the new Skate Authentics last week and here are my first impressions: Look and shape is much closer to the to core classic authentics. The heel cup is much more fitted, which eliminates a lot of the heel slip that occurred with the Pros (which is a welcome improvement) however that more fitted heel in combination with the tongue straps makes them much more difficult to just slip on and off without re-tying the laces every time (and that’s even without lacing them to the top eye). So, the fit is overall better if you’re intending to skate in these since your foot feels much more secure, but I primarily wear these as a casual shoe so the inability to easily slip on and off kinda sucks.
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Been skating the new Half Cabs for a few weeks now. I was previously skating the old Half Cab Pro.
The new Half Cabs are much stiffer, but are also significantly more durable than the old ones. They also took a while to break in, while the old design felt broken in right out of the box. Boardfeel was better on the old design.
The new ones are much more supportive due to the new heel design and stiffer construction. Cushioning is about the same, I personally really like the popcush insoles.
I like the tongue straps. Neither the old or the new ones breathe very well and I always end the session with sweat soaked feet.
Durability and support are the two most important factors in a shoe for me, so I’m happy with them.
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I skated in the Old-School "pros" and the Sk8-HIs "pros." I got a pair of the new SK8-HIs about two weeks ago. Normally when I get a new pair of shoes, I wear them for about two weeks before I even step on a board with them--I hate the "new" shoe feel on a board. So, I have not even skated in these yet. That said, here is my initial reactions to them. So far, most of it is negative.
(1) They are hot. Much hotter than the Pros.
(2) The tongue does not move, at all, because of the internal tongue straps. This is good, because I hated how the tongue would always slip around on the older versions. This also makes them much harder to put on/take off.
(3) I still have some pressure points around the little toe on one shoe. This never happened before with the Pros.
(4) Two weeks in and they still feel quite stiff, as in, not broken-in at all. Around two weeks is when I would normally start considering skating in the Pros. These do not feel like they are anywhere near "ready" yet. What that means long term remains to be seen. Further on this point, Vans always felt "comfy" to me, almost out of the box. These have not yet reached that state. When I got home from work last night I was dying to take them off. That never happened before with the Pros. I'll follow-up more as time goes on.
Anyone else had more in-depth experience with these yet?
This is my experience word-for-word, sadly I have a pair of slip ons, two pairs of his, and two pairs of half cabs that will now take like a rigorous fucking routine to make skateable.
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Do the new Skate versions fit the same as the Pros?
I had to size up from the regular half cabs to a half size bigger for pros (same with most models). Wondering if its the same deal with the new line...
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Do the new Skate versions fit the same as the Pros?
I had to size up from the regular half cabs to a half size bigger for pros (same with most models). Wondering if its the same deal with the new line...
I got them in my regular size just like Pros and they fit like they should (eventually.) I do recall in the early days of Pro slips it was recommended to go up a full size but Vans fixed that and I have been TTS with Vans ever since. I would get what size you always get.
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Earlier today I tried out a new pair of Skate Half-Cabs for the first time. It was kind of meh. The flick wasn't that precise, and my left foot's arch was getting some really strong plantar fasciitis for a little bit.
I know I have to break them in and you can't really judge a shoe off the first session, actually had this conversation with a local kid who's an absolute ripper in the same session. I guess my expectations were kind of high since I love regular Half-Cabs, so I was hoping for the best. Don't know if I'll keep skating them right now, but I do plan on returning to them.
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I skated in the Old-School "pros" and the Sk8-HIs "pros." I got a pair of the new SK8-HIs about two weeks ago. Normally when I get a new pair of shoes, I wear them for about two weeks before I even step on a board with them--I hate the "new" shoe feel on a board. So, I have not even skated in these yet. That said, here is my initial reactions to them. So far, most of it is negative.
(1) They are hot. Much hotter than the Pros.
(2) The tongue does not move, at all, because of the internal tongue straps. This is good, because I hated how the tongue would always slip around on the older versions. This also makes them much harder to put on/take off.
(3) I still have some pressure points around the little toe on one shoe. This never happened before with the Pros.
(4) Two weeks in and they still feel quite stiff, as in, not broken-in at all. Around two weeks is when I would normally start considering skating in the Pros. These do not feel like they are anywhere near "ready" yet. What that means long term remains to be seen. Further on this point, Vans always felt "comfy" to me, almost out of the box. These have not yet reached that state. When I got home from work last night I was dying to take them off. That never happened before with the Pros. I'll follow-up more as time goes on.
Anyone else had more in-depth experience with these yet?
Follow-up from my own previous post. Despite my new Sk8-HIs not feeling "ready" yet, I took them for a quick session today. I realized after about 10 min of skating that while they are not "broken in" yet, that these were never going to feel "ready" in the same sense the Pros did, simply because the Skate version is stiffer. I made some peace with that, and just went on skating. There were three distinct things I noticed.
First, board feel is NOT the same. Pros def have the advantage on this. It's not like wearing cupsoles or anything, but it's not the board feel I loved about Vans.
Second, pop was much more crisp. This was a really interesting one, that took me a bit to figure out what I thought was going on here. But when I did, it made perfect sense. So, Pros are more flexible than the Skate line, which is stiffer. So, imagine running in sand, or trying to ollie on grass. Think about how much power/energy gets lost when you push-off/ollie, because the energy gets dissipated into the sand/grass. Now think about running/ollieing on hard concrete. You get a much more explosive run/ollie, because not as much energy is lost. To me, it seemed like this analogy was like Pros vs. Skate line. With the Skate line being stiffer, it felt like more direct power was transferred into my ollies/noilles, and as a result, the pop was much more crisp and responsive. The trade off, of course, is board feel. I'm really curious to see if anyone else noticed this "crisp pop" phenomena, or if it was just in my head.
Third, the comfy factory (mentioned in previous post) still isn't there. I skated for about 30 min, and afterwards I was really like, "Damn. I want to take these things OFF!"
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I’ve had two pairs of authentic pros that have a super stiff square heel counter. Does anyone know if the new skate authentics are the same? Thanks in advance!
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I’ve had two pairs of authentic pros that have a super stiff square heel counter. Does anyone know if the new skate authentics are the same? Thanks in advance!
check out my review on the previous page. If anything, the heel in the new Skate Authentics is even stiffer.
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I have the skate half cabs. I said in another thread that I was returning them, but I decided to keep them for educational purposes. Issues with them are:
Stiff collar. This will probably work out, but the og half cabs had a buttery soft collar, like a mink scarf around your ankle, so this is a let down. Generally, these are just uncomfortable.
Slick outsole. It's shiny, so it looks slick... It feels a little slick to the touch... But certainly vans wouldn't make an outsole that wasn't extremely grippy, would they? Lo and behold, I did a few kickflips, first try, in these right out of the box. This never happens with vans. They are usually too grippy for my fliptricks to work right away. Not sure how this is going to play out, but the grip on the outsole has been noticeably reduced in my experience.
This probably isn't an issue specific to the "skate" line, but more of a manufacturing snafu, but the toe-box in one of my half cabs is lower than the other. I feel pressure on the top of my foot where the toebox meets the tongue.
So, in summary, Vans produced half cabs that aren't very comfortable or very grippy.
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I skated in the Old-School "pros" and the Sk8-HIs "pros." I got a pair of the new SK8-HIs about two weeks ago. Normally when I get a new pair of shoes, I wear them for about two weeks before I even step on a board with them--I hate the "new" shoe feel on a board. So, I have not even skated in these yet. That said, here is my initial reactions to them. So far, most of it is negative.
(1) They are hot. Much hotter than the Pros.
(2) The tongue does not move, at all, because of the internal tongue straps. This is good, because I hated how the tongue would always slip around on the older versions. This also makes them much harder to put on/take off.
(3) I still have some pressure points around the little toe on one shoe. This never happened before with the Pros.
(4) Two weeks in and they still feel quite stiff, as in, not broken-in at all. Around two weeks is when I would normally start considering skating in the Pros. These do not feel like they are anywhere near "ready" yet. What that means long term remains to be seen. Further on this point, Vans always felt "comfy" to me, almost out of the box. These have not yet reached that state. When I got home from work last night I was dying to take them off. That never happened before with the Pros. I'll follow-up more as time goes on.
Anyone else had more in-depth experience with these yet?
Follow-up from my own previous post. Despite my new Sk8-HIs not feeling "ready" yet, I took them for a quick session today. I realized after about 10 min of skating that while they are not "broken in" yet, that these were never going to feel "ready" in the same sense the Pros did, simply because the Skate version is stiffer. I made some peace with that, and just went on skating. There were three distinct things I noticed.
First, board feel is NOT the same. Pros def have the advantage on this. It's not like wearing cupsoles or anything, but it's not the board feel I loved about Vans.
Second, pop was much more crisp. This was a really interesting one, that took me a bit to figure out what I thought was going on here. But when I did, it made perfect sense. So, Pros are more flexible than the Skate line, which is stiffer. So, imagine running in sand, or trying to ollie on grass. Think about how much power/energy gets lost when you push-off/ollie, because the energy gets dissipated into the sand/grass. Now think about running/ollieing on hard concrete. You get a much more explosive run/ollie, because not as much energy is lost. To me, it seemed like this analogy was like Pros vs. Skate line. With the Skate line being stiffer, it felt like more direct power was transferred into my ollies/noilles, and as a result, the pop was much more crisp and responsive. The trade off, of course, is board feel. I'm really curious to see if anyone else noticed this "crisp pop" phenomena, or if it was just in my head.
Third, the comfy factory (mentioned in previous post) still isn't there. I skated for about 30 min, and afterwards I was really like, "Damn. I want to take these things OFF!"
And today was my first mini ramp session in these. Here is what stood out:
(1) Board Feel was bad. I skate with Kingfoam Elite insoles. I feel like these give you even more board feel than the stock Vans insoles (maybe that's just me). Even with these in the Sk8-HIs, I almost felt like I was wearing cupsoles. After skating for a while, I started to adjust a bit, but it really just felt like I had cement shoes on.
(2) STIFF. For some reason I noticed this more on transition than street. They just felt really, really stiff.
(3) Sticky. Maybe the soles still need some breaking in, but my feet feel way more "stuck" to the board when adjusting feet in the flat bottom for next wall. This got kind of dicey with some of those micro-adjustments you have to make mid-trick/on the lip sometimes.
(4) Pressure points in toe box got real bad during run-outs. Bailing/running out of a trick on tranny really jams your foot into the toe of the shoe. The pressure points mentioned above started to get really sore after skating awhile because of this. Eventually I started knee-sliding (I wear knee pads on mini ramps) on bails that I would otherwise would have run-out of to avoid the pain of the run-outs.
(5) Get these off my feet! Again, when session was over, I wanted nothing more than to just take these shoes off.
None of this has ever happened to me with the Pros.
I was not too happy. Maybe I'll have to switch to the "regular" Vans, and that is a horrifying thought.
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The new Skate Classics have the same SickStick sole as the Rowan Pro. Probably why most of y’all are acknowledging them being a bit gripper than normal. Most of the locals in my area that bought them have given positive feedback on the new construction.
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Their classic look its timeless and nice but my feet hurt just by walking on them
I still buy a pair from time to time, even years in between, in the hopes they change or feel different for me but its always the same deal; maybe its the flat sole or the absence of real cushioning, dunno
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CN-9IKzg4wg/
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Honestly fuck these changes. Just got two pairs of Last Resorts and I am hooked.
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They are good. If they hurt your feet get a bigger size.
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I want to try to the new Vans, but I'm stuck between Old Skools and Sk8 Lows.
Want to know what people think on each of those pairs.
It's been ages since I've skated Sk8-his, but I do remember liking the wider toe box, so I'm curious if the lows feel the same.
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I skated in the Old-School "pros" and the Sk8-HIs "pros." I got a pair of the new SK8-HIs about two weeks ago. Normally when I get a new pair of shoes, I wear them for about two weeks before I even step on a board with them--I hate the "new" shoe feel on a board. So, I have not even skated in these yet. That said, here is my initial reactions to them. So far, most of it is negative.
(1) They are hot. Much hotter than the Pros.
(2) The tongue does not move, at all, because of the internal tongue straps. This is good, because I hated how the tongue would always slip around on the older versions. This also makes them much harder to put on/take off.
(3) I still have some pressure points around the little toe on one shoe. This never happened before with the Pros.
(4) Two weeks in and they still feel quite stiff, as in, not broken-in at all. Around two weeks is when I would normally start considering skating in the Pros. These do not feel like they are anywhere near "ready" yet. What that means long term remains to be seen. Further on this point, Vans always felt "comfy" to me, almost out of the box. These have not yet reached that state. When I got home from work last night I was dying to take them off. That never happened before with the Pros. I'll follow-up more as time goes on.
Anyone else had more in-depth experience with these yet?
Follow-up from my own previous post. Despite my new Sk8-HIs not feeling "ready" yet, I took them for a quick session today. I realized after about 10 min of skating that while they are not "broken in" yet, that these were never going to feel "ready" in the same sense the Pros did, simply because the Skate version is stiffer. I made some peace with that, and just went on skating. There were three distinct things I noticed.
First, board feel is NOT the same. Pros def have the advantage on this. It's not like wearing cupsoles or anything, but it's not the board feel I loved about Vans.
Second, pop was much more crisp. This was a really interesting one, that took me a bit to figure out what I thought was going on here. But when I did, it made perfect sense. So, Pros are more flexible than the Skate line, which is stiffer. So, imagine running in sand, or trying to ollie on grass. Think about how much power/energy gets lost when you push-off/ollie, because the energy gets dissipated into the sand/grass. Now think about running/ollieing on hard concrete. You get a much more explosive run/ollie, because not as much energy is lost. To me, it seemed like this analogy was like Pros vs. Skate line. With the Skate line being stiffer, it felt like more direct power was transferred into my ollies/noilles, and as a result, the pop was much more crisp and responsive. The trade off, of course, is board feel. I'm really curious to see if anyone else noticed this "crisp pop" phenomena, or if it was just in my head.
Third, the comfy factory (mentioned in previous post) still isn't there. I skated for about 30 min, and afterwards I was really like, "Damn. I want to take these things OFF!"
And today was my first mini ramp session in these. Here is what stood out:
(1) Board Feel was bad. I skate with Kingfoam Elite insoles. I feel like these give you even more board feel than the stock Vans insoles (maybe that's just me). Even with these in the Sk8-HIs, I almost felt like I was wearing cupsoles. After skating for a while, I started to adjust a bit, but it really just felt like I had cement shoes on.
(2) STIFF. For some reason I noticed this more on transition than street. They just felt really, really stiff.
(3) Sticky. Maybe the soles still need some breaking in, but my feet feel way more "stuck" to the board when adjusting feet in the flat bottom for next wall. This got kind of dicey with some of those micro-adjustments you have to make mid-trick/on the lip sometimes.
(4) Pressure points in toe box got real bad during run-outs. Bailing/running out of a trick on tranny really jams your foot into the toe of the shoe. The pressure points mentioned above started to get really sore after skating awhile because of this. Eventually I started knee-sliding (I wear knee pads on mini ramps) on bails that I would otherwise would have run-out of to avoid the pain of the run-outs.
(5) Get these off my feet! Again, when session was over, I wanted nothing more than to just take these shoes off.
None of this has ever happened to me with the Pros.
I was not too happy. Maybe I'll have to switch to the "regular" Vans, and that is a horrifying thought.
I have always been about 11.5 in shoe size but in Australia we don't get half sizes (even though I have had lots from ordering from US going back a number of years) so nowdays I stretch out 11 in a tight fit or just wear 12 and have them a bit on the loose side.
The thing for me going between the different types for a bit and then back to the other one is this, all size 12 so already a bit big but easier to wear all day every day:
Coming from Pro, the Skate feels stiff and super solid, not so much in a bad way, but it takes a bit to get used to and then I think my feet feel better at the end of the day skating, even if the shoes are a bit big for my feet in the size I bought. Yes they are definitely more grippy, but once I am used to it, it makes it better to keep my feet in the right place and I got used to being able to move my feet on the board after a while. Not so coarse grip is easier with these shoes too - I skate Jessup untouched and it works well for me.
Going back to the Pro, they feel so soft, flimsy and thin that it takes a bit to get used to the lack of support and having almost nothing on my feet, but once I have a session or two, I definitely am back where I am used to skating softer and thinner shoes when they are still new, but the 12 feel so big a floppy once they are broken in. Grip is a little less, but again I got used to it fairly easily, as well as it being better on newer grip so not too sticky.
From well before pro and anything else like this, I would strip out the classics and put in aftermarket insoles and I still feel like although this is a process in itself (sometimes a real pain if the insole is really glued down hard, but others it almost comes right out in one piece so easily), this is almost the best option for me for what is most comfortable.
The Skate range are actually closer to the Classic than the Pro in terms of how stiff the shoe is, and both Skate and Classic last longer in the sole than the Pro range ever did.
Between size and style these shoes are going to feel very easy to wear / skate (size 12) or very tight and often painful, but that is just me in 11 for the most part.
I wonder if trying a half size up with thicker socks (which is what I do) works well enough / better...
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In terms of their design, are the new skate classics similar to the Rowans? These feel stiffer and more form fitting than some other Vans but I like that about them.
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might try a classic when i can get to the local again. i always preferred skating classic vans with third party insoles to pro vans. brimson saying the skates feel more like those gives me some hope. also i like it when the sole has rigid parts in the right places. really helps me to not pretzl my feet in my shoes and just stand relaxed.
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I want to try to the new Vans, but I'm stuck between Old Skools and Sk8 Lows.
Want to know what people think on each of those pairs.
It's been ages since I've skated Sk8-his, but I do remember liking the wider toe box, so I'm curious if the lows feel the same.
Sk8 lows are one of, if not my all time favorite shoe.
Would highly recommend.
*Edit-I don’t skate Sk8 His, but the Sk8 lows do have wider toe box. Hope this helps.
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In terms of their design, are the new skate classics similar to the Rowans? These feel stiffer and more form fitting than some other Vans but I like that about them.
Yes the Rowan was almost like a first test of the new shoe options, which is pretty much the new ones, only the new ones have a few more features, like the solid part in the heel / sole area.
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Besides the Checker Vans Tag, the shoes are perfect. Didn’t think that I’d buy into it but here I am.
These & regular classics. Done
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Their classic look its timeless and nice but my feet hurt just by walking on them
I still buy a pair from time to time, even years in between, in the hopes they change or feel different for me but its always the same deal; maybe its the flat sole or the absence of real cushioning, dunno
I gave away my new authentics when I left New York yesterday and drove home 4 hrs barefoot. I could barely walk after a rough day of toe torture.
I didn't bring two shoes like a fool because I wanted to be fresh and clean for filming And I thought the authentics would be exactly the same as my new chukkas which are perfect.
I was dead wrong and I filmed zero frickin skating
I believe my problem is the high wrap foxing not the insoles.
And I've had the same problem with other high wrap shoes.
The GT green and gum being the worst of the toe crushers.
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I skated in the Old-School "pros" and the Sk8-HIs "pros." I got a pair of the new SK8-HIs about two weeks ago. Normally when I get a new pair of shoes, I wear them for about two weeks before I even step on a board with them--I hate the "new" shoe feel on a board. So, I have not even skated in these yet. That said, here is my initial reactions to them. So far, most of it is negative.
(1) They are hot. Much hotter than the Pros.
(2) The tongue does not move, at all, because of the internal tongue straps. This is good, because I hated how the tongue would always slip around on the older versions. This also makes them much harder to put on/take off.
(3) I still have some pressure points around the little toe on one shoe. This never happened before with the Pros.
(4) Two weeks in and they still feel quite stiff, as in, not broken-in at all. Around two weeks is when I would normally start considering skating in the Pros. These do not feel like they are anywhere near "ready" yet. What that means long term remains to be seen. Further on this point, Vans always felt "comfy" to me, almost out of the box. These have not yet reached that state. When I got home from work last night I was dying to take them off. That never happened before with the Pros. I'll follow-up more as time goes on.
Anyone else had more in-depth experience with these yet?
Follow-up from my own previous post. Despite my new Sk8-HIs not feeling "ready" yet, I took them for a quick session today. I realized after about 10 min of skating that while they are not "broken in" yet, that these were never going to feel "ready" in the same sense the Pros did, simply because the Skate version is stiffer. I made some peace with that, and just went on skating. There were three distinct things I noticed.
First, board feel is NOT the same. Pros def have the advantage on this. It's not like wearing cupsoles or anything, but it's not the board feel I loved about Vans.
Second, pop was much more crisp. This was a really interesting one, that took me a bit to figure out what I thought was going on here. But when I did, it made perfect sense. So, Pros are more flexible than the Skate line, which is stiffer. So, imagine running in sand, or trying to ollie on grass. Think about how much power/energy gets lost when you push-off/ollie, because the energy gets dissipated into the sand/grass. Now think about running/ollieing on hard concrete. You get a much more explosive run/ollie, because not as much energy is lost. To me, it seemed like this analogy was like Pros vs. Skate line. With the Skate line being stiffer, it felt like more direct power was transferred into my ollies/noilles, and as a result, the pop was much more crisp and responsive. The trade off, of course, is board feel. I'm really curious to see if anyone else noticed this "crisp pop" phenomena, or if it was just in my head.
Third, the comfy factory (mentioned in previous post) still isn't there. I skated for about 30 min, and afterwards I was really like, "Damn. I want to take these things OFF!"
And today was my first mini ramp session in these. Here is what stood out:
(1) Board Feel was bad. I skate with Kingfoam Elite insoles. I feel like these give you even more board feel than the stock Vans insoles (maybe that's just me). Even with these in the Sk8-HIs, I almost felt like I was wearing cupsoles. After skating for a while, I started to adjust a bit, but it really just felt like I had cement shoes on.
(2) STIFF. For some reason I noticed this more on transition than street. They just felt really, really stiff.
(3) Sticky. Maybe the soles still need some breaking in, but my feet feel way more "stuck" to the board when adjusting feet in the flat bottom for next wall. This got kind of dicey with some of those micro-adjustments you have to make mid-trick/on the lip sometimes.
(4) Pressure points in toe box got real bad during run-outs. Bailing/running out of a trick on tranny really jams your foot into the toe of the shoe. The pressure points mentioned above started to get really sore after skating awhile because of this. Eventually I started knee-sliding (I wear knee pads on mini ramps) on bails that I would otherwise would have run-out of to avoid the pain of the run-outs.
(5) Get these off my feet! Again, when session was over, I wanted nothing more than to just take these shoes off.
None of this has ever happened to me with the Pros.
I was not too happy. Maybe I'll have to switch to the "regular" Vans, and that is a horrifying thought.
ALL OF THIS
But with skate old skools.
Maybe if we walk them for months they'll be ok but nobody got time for that.
Also 100% agree with the higher foxing tape and way too sticky sole. I ate shit on a wallride last Saturday that almost got me into hospital because of that.
Good thing I had some slip on pros on ice.
To me Vans committed suicide
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I thought the Vans Pro shoes were hot garbage. All the Vans pro loyalists on here complaining about the shoes got me interested. I got some Skate Half Cabs. Looking forward to skating them in a week or two when my current shoes are done. A stiff, supportive vulc shoe with good grip sounds great to me. They are a little snug on the top of my foot where the tongue attaches. Other than that, they feel great.
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Most of the people I know who have the new Vans Skate shoes love them, the upgrade being a welcome change with the shoe being stronger and lasting longer than other versions.
Interesting to hear / see thoughts, but I guess coming from how soft and thin the average Vans Pro shoe was, it is definitely a significant change.
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Does anyone know the closest shoe I can get to the first Kyle Walker Pro? I regrettably did not stock up when I had the chance and now they're harder to come by.
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Does anyone know the closest shoe I can get to the first Kyle Walker Pro? I regrettably did not stock up when I had the chance and now they're harder to come by.
The Crockett Pro and Crockett Hi are on the same outsole, so they're probably pretty similar.
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Does anyone know the closest shoe I can get to the first Kyle Walker Pro? I regrettably did not stock up when I had the chance and now they're harder to come by.
I don't think there's anything in the Vans lineup that's too close. You could try the Crocketts which are a similar sole but closer to an Old Skool with padding and feel. My take on the KWalks is that they feel like a Vans version of a Reynolds so maybe something like the Spanky or the Gamma.
To be honest, I don't think the KWalk is getting phased out. To me, it looks like the KWalk2 is getting discounted and the releases of the first shoe have stayed consistent. The two black and white colorways have been out since last year and it gets a new unique colorway per season. I've seen the antique/rose colorway at the outlet recently and saw one colorway on Zappos. It's an older shoe so it's definitely time to start thinking about stocking up but I don't think it's there yet.
https://www.zappos.com/p/vans-kyle-walker-pro-gold-black/product/8712483/color/17892
Also if you happen to be a size 10US I have an unworn pair that I'd love to get rid of. It's the drizzle colorway.
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Their classic look its timeless and nice but my feet hurt just by walking on them
I still buy a pair from time to time, even years in between, in the hopes they change or feel different for me but its always the same deal; maybe its the flat sole or the absence of real cushioning, dunno
I gave away my new authentics when I left New York yesterday and drove home 4 hrs barefoot. I could barely walk after a rough day of toe torture.
I didn't bring two shoes like a fool because I wanted to be fresh and clean for filming And I thought the authentics would be exactly the same as my new chukkas which are perfect.
I was dead wrong and I filmed zero frickin skating
I believe my problem is the high wrap foxing not the insoles.
And I've had the same problem with other high wrap shoes.
The GT green and gum being the worst of the toe crushers.
I have a pair of the old Authentic Pros I’ve been chilling in for a YEAR trying to break in. Nada. Still hurt to skate.
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I just started skating a pair of the new Skate Sports and I’m digging the hell out of them so far. The shape is very blazer-like and fits my narrow foot really well. It’s stiff, but not in a bad way. It just feels like it’s gonna hold its shape for a while.
Coming off of the Rowans I was skating before this, sickstick or whatever the new outsole is is really a game changer. It wears super slow but it’s crazy grippy. Looks basically untouched after two heavy sessions. Haven’t even made a mark on the suede.
As a lace ripper, bottom laces holding up pretty good with a dab of super glue, but the top eyelet is gonna have to be left unlaced for me. Even laced down, they still hold my heel great.
Only gripe is I’m not sold on popcush. It just feels kind of hard and I don’t like the way it feels on the bottom of my foot. Maybe something about the material on top of it? Not sure. To be fair, I wasn’t really sold on the old insoles either though.
I’m digging them overall. As time goes on, if I can find last season’s colorways in the outlet half off like I could with the old skate pros, this will probably become my go-to shoe.
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I just started skating a pair of the new Skate Sports and I’m digging the hell out of them so far. The shape is very blazer-like and fits my narrow foot really well. It’s stiff, but not in a bad way. It just feels like it’s gonna hold its shape for a while.
Coming off of the Rowans I was skating before this, sickstick or whatever the new outsole is is really a game changer. It wears super slow but it’s crazy grippy. Looks basically untouched after two heavy sessions. Haven’t even made a mark on the suede.
As a lace ripper, bottom laces holding up pretty good with a dab of super glue, but the top eyelet is gonna have to be left unlaced for me. Even laced down, they still hold my heel great.
Only gripe is I’m not sold on popcush. It just feels kind of hard and I don’t like the way it feels on the bottom of my foot. Maybe something about the material on top of it? Not sure. To be fair, I wasn’t really sold on the old insoles either though.
I’m digging them overall. As time goes on, if I can find last season’s colorways in the outlet half off like I could with the old skate pros, this will probably become my go-to shoe.
How do you think someone with a borderline wide foot would fare? I was looking at some on 6pm. For reference, I have some SB Blazer Mids that fit fairly well, but they (as do a lot of shoes) pinch my left pinky toe to numbness if I skate for more than a half hour.
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How do you think someone with a borderline wide foot would fare? I was looking at some on 6pm. For reference, I have some SB Blazer Mids that fit fairly well, but they (as do a lot of shoes) pinch my left pinky toe to numbness if I skate for more than a half hour.
Might be more trouble than it is worth, but for shoes that were too tight across, a shoe stretcher did wonders for me. Even something more simple like a piece of wood cut and slightly rounded to push the shoe out in the area you have issues has worked before too. Just a thought anyway. I modified my shoe stretchers with cardboard and tape to really push out the areas I needed stretched, which takes a bit more work, but had the best result.
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How do you think someone with a borderline wide foot would fare? I was looking at some on 6pm. For reference, I have some SB Blazer Mids that fit fairly well, but they (as do a lot of shoes) pinch my left pinky toe to numbness if I skate for more than a half hour.
Might be more trouble than it is worth, but for shoes that were too tight across, a shoe stretcher did wonders for me. Even something more simple like a piece of wood cut and slightly rounded to push the shoe out in the area you have issues has worked before too. Just a thought anyway. I modified my shoe stretchers with cardboard and tape to really push out the areas I needed stretched, which takes a bit more work, but had the best result.
That’s definitely an idea. I’d considered it before but I’m also somewhat lazy, if I’m honest. I wonder if the baby foxing on certain Vans models would even stretch.
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How do you think someone with a borderline wide foot would fare? I was looking at some on 6pm. For reference, I have some SB Blazer Mids that fit fairly well, but they (as do a lot of shoes) pinch my left pinky toe to numbness if I skate for more than a half hour.
Might be more trouble than it is worth, but for shoes that were too tight across, a shoe stretcher did wonders for me. Even something more simple like a piece of wood cut and slightly rounded to push the shoe out in the area you have issues has worked before too. Just a thought anyway. I modified my shoe stretchers with cardboard and tape to really push out the areas I needed stretched, which takes a bit more work, but had the best result.
Yeah I know and it took me way too long to get the idea in my head and go with it, but it paid off.
Overall the suede stretches the most, but this also translates to the shoe not feeling quite as tight for me in general too.
That is without doing anything really crazy like oven / microwave / heating it up so it will stretch more, etc.
The best thing with shoe stretchers is they are good to go and can be used indefinitely after you work out how to adjust them / modify them to exactly what you need, as well as being fairly cheap on ebay or other online platform.
I can wear / skate the new shoes for a bit to get them nice and warm / not quite sweaty, then put the shoe stretchers straight in and leave them overnight, so it will push out the shoe in the right places. Repeat a few times and the shoes are so totally different in terms of fit - no unhappy wear in period, so pretty much perfect after a couple of days of minimal wear and stretching.
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How do you think someone with a borderline wide foot would fare? I was looking at some on 6pm. For reference, I have some SB Blazer Mids that fit fairly well, but they (as do a lot of shoes) pinch my left pinky toe to numbness if I skate for more than a half hour.
Might be more trouble than it is worth, but for shoes that were too tight across, a shoe stretcher did wonders for me. Even something more simple like a piece of wood cut and slightly rounded to push the shoe out in the area you have issues has worked before too. Just a thought anyway. I modified my shoe stretchers with cardboard and tape to really push out the areas I needed stretched, which takes a bit more work, but had the best result.
Yeah I know and it took me way too long to get the idea in my head and go with it, but it paid off.
Overall the suede stretches the most, but this also translates to the shoe not feeling quite as tight for me in general too.
That is without doing anything really crazy like oven / microwave / heating it up so it will stretch more, etc.
The best thing with shoe stretchers is they are good to go and can be used indefinitely after you work out how to adjust them / modify them to exactly what you need, as well as being fairly cheap on ebay or other online platform.
I can wear / skate the new shoes for a bit to get them nice and warm / not quite sweaty, then put the shoe stretchers straight in and leave them overnight, so it will push out the shoe in the right places. Repeat a few times and the shoes are so totally different in terms of fit - no unhappy wear in period, so pretty much perfect after a couple of days of minimal wear and stretching.
It’s funny you say that because I almost mentioned that I prefer suede shoes to canvas by far, and it’s because after awhile they almost mold to my feet.
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How do you think someone with a borderline wide foot would fare? I was looking at some on 6pm. For reference, I have some SB Blazer Mids that fit fairly well, but they (as do a lot of shoes) pinch my left pinky toe to numbness if I skate for more than a half hour.
Might be more trouble than it is worth, but for shoes that were too tight across, a shoe stretcher did wonders for me. Even something more simple like a piece of wood cut and slightly rounded to push the shoe out in the area you have issues has worked before too. Just a thought anyway. I modified my shoe stretchers with cardboard and tape to really push out the areas I needed stretched, which takes a bit more work, but had the best result.
Yeah I know and it took me way too long to get the idea in my head and go with it, but it paid off.
Overall the suede stretches the most, but this also translates to the shoe not feeling quite as tight for me in general too.
That is without doing anything really crazy like oven / microwave / heating it up so it will stretch more, etc.
The best thing with shoe stretchers is they are good to go and can be used indefinitely after you work out how to adjust them / modify them to exactly what you need, as well as being fairly cheap on ebay or other online platform.
I can wear / skate the new shoes for a bit to get them nice and warm / not quite sweaty, then put the shoe stretchers straight in and leave them overnight, so it will push out the shoe in the right places. Repeat a few times and the shoes are so totally different in terms of fit - no unhappy wear in period, so pretty much perfect after a couple of days of minimal wear and stretching.
It’s funny you say that because I almost mentioned that I prefer suede shoes to canvas by far, and it’s because after awhile they almost mold to my feet.
It goes both ways though, as I know some people don't like full suede shoes as they go from tight / snug when new to blown out and almost too loose when worn in, whereas canvas never stretches at all. I guess that is why I always liked classic Half Cabs as they did stretch out a lot (and I would put pro insoles in anyway) so they felt better than the pro versions, which mostly became so loose and soft after a few skates they were good as "slip on" chillers from then on.
As much as the Old Skool and Era had both suede and canvas, they never really stretched too much, but having only canvas around the top ankle area in most of them, they blew out from ollies more easily if they were not fixed with glue or shoe goo.
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I put something up already in this thread, but I now have two pairs of the new SKATE shoes, one each in Old Skool and Sk8 low and they are both by far a stronger, more supported, grippier and stiffer version of anything I have ever had from Vans, which going forward is the way of the future, even if a lot of people are unhappy with the feel of the new ones.
My options are limited to full sizes here in AU (no half sizes and I fit 11.5 best) so I went with the bigger 12 rather than 11 and they are very comfortable right away, no blisters or unwanted rubbing issues, but I am yet to really do much more than wearing them for a full day each and having a bit of a skate in both of them.
That said, I prefer tighter shoes to skate in, but going up half a size might help some others who have big issues with the fit of the new ones.
They are definitely not the soft thin moccasin type of shoes that the pro turned out to be, that's for sure.
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I just started skating a pair of the new Skate Sports and I’m digging the hell out of them so far. The shape is very blazer-like and fits my narrow foot really well. It’s stiff, but not in a bad way. It just feels like it’s gonna hold its shape for a while.
Coming off of the Rowans I was skating before this, sickstick or whatever the new outsole is is really a game changer. It wears super slow but it’s crazy grippy. Looks basically untouched after two heavy sessions. Haven’t even made a mark on the suede.
As a lace ripper, bottom laces holding up pretty good with a dab of super glue, but the top eyelet is gonna have to be left unlaced for me. Even laced down, they still hold my heel great.
Only gripe is I’m not sold on popcush. It just feels kind of hard and I don’t like the way it feels on the bottom of my foot. Maybe something about the material on top of it? Not sure. To be fair, I wasn’t really sold on the old insoles either though.
I’m digging them overall. As time goes on, if I can find last season’s colorways in the outlet half off like I could with the old skate pros, this will probably become my go-to shoe.
How do you think someone with a borderline wide foot would fare? I was looking at some on 6pm. For reference, I have some SB Blazer Mids that fit fairly well, but they (as do a lot of shoes) pinch my left pinky toe to numbness if I skate for more than a half hour.
to me, they’re a little wider in the toe box than blazer lows but not as wide as blazer mids. Like I said, I’ve got a stupid narrow foot, so I don’t really have much to go off of in that regard. If you can get into a store to try them on, that’s ultimately the best bet, though not as fun as late night impulse buys.
Which, speaking of, I just copped another pair of these in that nice cream/ blue color way for 40 bucks shipped on 6pm because I’m digging em. Not having to think about my shoes is ultimately the goal and these get me there so far.
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Just mash the shit out of those if they feel stiff. I did and my slip ons feel perfect now. Pros were bs.
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though not as fun as late night impulse buys.
Lmao, I hear that. Most of my purchases are after midnight when I can barely keep my eyes open
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Are the regular (no pro, no skate) Half Cabs discontinued? Can’t find nothing but those new SKATE ones and some random pro classics at least here in Europe.
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Are the regular (no pro, no skate) Half Cabs discontinued? Can’t find nothing but those new SKATE ones and some random pro classics at least here in Europe.
I was going to say the classics are still available in the US as far as I know but they're no longer on the US Vans site and looks like they're out of a lot of sizes where they used to be readily available (zappos, skatewarehouse, tactics, ccs, etc.).
That would suck because I prefer the Classics over the Pros. (Haven't seen/skated the new Skate versions in real life but am not keeping my hopes up based on the reviews I've read so far.)
Sorry, no clue about Europe but hopefully another Pal can drop some knowledge.
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Are the regular (no pro, no skate) Half Cabs discontinued? Can’t find nothing but those new SKATE ones and some random pro classics at least here in Europe.
I was going to say the classics are still available in the US as far as I know but they're no longer on the US Vans site and looks like they're out of a lot of sizes where they used to be readily available (zappos, skatewarehouse, tactics, ccs, etc.).
That would suck because I prefer the Classics over the Pros. (Haven't seen/skated the new Skate versions in real life but am not keeping my hopes up based on the reviews I've read so far.)
Sorry, no clue about Europe but hopefully another Pal can drop some knowledge.
Same in Australia, the classic Half Cabs come in, they sit, they go on sale, they clear out, then they come in again next season at a higher price again, which is weird as they are the same standard lines they have always been, even with a few tweaks along the way, so who knows what is going on with them.
Just checked again on vans.com.au and the black / white classics are at about 20% off and the navy / white classics are 50% off.
Even the new Skate Half Cabs in black / white are already 20% off too, which is ridiculous, but who knows in the Half Cab market.
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Are the regular (no pro, no skate) Half Cabs discontinued? Can’t find nothing but those new SKATE ones and some random pro classics at least here in Europe.
I was going to say the classics are still available in the US as far as I know but they're no longer on the US Vans site and looks like they're out of a lot of sizes where they used to be readily available (zappos, skatewarehouse, tactics, ccs, etc.).
That would suck because I prefer the Classics over the Pros. (Haven't seen/skated the new Skate versions in real life but am not keeping my hopes up based on the reviews I've read so far.)
Sorry, no clue about Europe but hopefully another Pal can drop some knowledge.
Same in Australia, the classic Half Cabs come in, they sit, they go on sale, they clear out, then they come in again next season at a higher price again, which is weird as they are the same standard lines they have always been, even with a few tweaks along the way, so who knows what is going on with them.
Just checked again on vans.com.au and the black / white classics are at about 20% off and the navy / white classics are 50% off.
Even the new Skate Half Cabs in black / white are already 20% off too, which is ridiculous, but who knows in the Half Cab market.
Yeah haven’t seen regular half cabs here like since 2018. What a bummer, like those way better than the pros/skate...
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My local surf shop has OG half caps, yall want me to pick some up? only half joking, I can see what the price would be w shipping
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Anyone have experience with the Crockett High Pro? I normally skate the Sk8-Hi and they look pretty similar besides being cup sole vs vulcanized.
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Anyone have experience with the Crockett High Pro? I normally skate the Sk8-Hi and they look pretty similar besides being cup sole vs vulcanized.
I've had both the sk8 hi pros and the crockett highs and besides being high top vans, they couldn't be more different. The crocketts were way more comfy for me since it doesn't have the stitching at the forefoot like the sk8 highs. Obviously the waffle cup makes the crocketts more supportive and the board feel is good for a cup hybrid after breaking it in. the shape is also more fluid like a gradual arrow on the crocketts when compared to the skate his which to me have a more abrupt toe shape where the stitching is.
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Anyone have experience with the Crockett High Pro? I normally skate the Sk8-Hi and they look pretty similar besides being cup sole vs vulcanized.
Wow, thanks for the in depth review. I just picked up a pair of Crockett High on 6pm.com for $41 so I'll get to try them out.
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Almost thought I was going a bit nuts for a second, then realised there were two threads for Vans shoes, this one and the other one:
VANS PRO CLASSICS LINE TO BE REPLACED BY VANS SKATE CLASSIC LINE
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=115285.150
I guess what is more crazy is how many new styles are already being discounted on the vans.com.au website (AU - Australia) but some shops have barely even had their Vans drop a minute and are still at full price, which is a bit of a stretch, but a lot of their customers would not know about the specials or want to buy in store only.
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Currently skating skate old skools and by far hating them with every cell of my body. Feel way too stiff and there is too much rubber on the toe area of the shoes. Maybe they will break in some day... been skating them for like 5 sessions (over 2h each).
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Currently skating skate old skools and by far hating them with every cell of my body. Feel way too stiff and there is too much rubber on the toe area of the shoes. Maybe they will break in some day... been skating them for like 5 sessions (over 2h each).
Damn, as a Sk8-hi guy I was looking at the old skools as a secondary shoe. I noticed with the newer Vans that I have to wear thinner socks or go up a half size in the case of slip ons.
I just got a pair of the Grosso Mids, they look and feel sick but they're either a tiny bit more snug or my feet are swollen from skating yesterday :(
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Currently skating skate old skools and by far hating them with every cell of my body. Feel way too stiff and there is too much rubber on the toe area of the shoes. Maybe they will break in some day... been skating them for like 5 sessions (over 2h each).
Damn, as a Sk8-hi guy I was looking at the old skools as a secondary shoe. I noticed with the newer Vans that I have to wear thinner socks or go up a half size in the case of slip ons.
I just got a pair of the Grosso Mids, they look and feel sick but they're either a tiny bit more snug or my feet are swollen from skating yesterday :(
I would be thinking they are a tiny bit more snug.
Try some old insoles in them at first if you have any, as that has helped with a lot of newer shoes that are too tight to start with, even the almost blown out old insoles will give a much better break in with those shoes than trying to just make them work.
Then when the shoe is well worn put the new insoles back in and it will feel like you have a newer pair of shoes.
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I ended up putting in used laces from sk8-his since they're a little bit longer, makes tying them easier
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I skated in the skate era's for the first time yesterday I really like them unfortunately
About an hour or so in I was starting to get a pretty nasty blister on back of my heel
I assume that's normal for those of you dedicated to vans.
Besides that first impressions insoles and sole are more to my liking than the pro's
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I skated in the skate era's for the first time yesterday I really like them unfortunately
About an hour or so in I was starting to get a pretty nasty blister on back of my heel
I assume that's normal for those of you dedicated to vans.
Besides that first impressions insoles and sole are more to my liking than the pro's
Some Vans shoes give blisters more than others, which is a bit weird, as most of them should have a pretty similar heel area.
The one thing I did notice is if I don't have the shoes done up super tight at first, I am more prone to get blisters, so the first wear for me is very tentative and tight as can be laces, so if I feel like something is rubbing, I will check or take them off, or even try thicker socks at first.
I think only two styles I had solid issues with, so I don't wear those shoes any more - passed them on to others - and try to stick to shoes I know work for me.
Right now I am loving the Sk8 low shoes, (which are also on a ridiculous clearance deal from a few places) but I found they are low enough to not dig into my haggard old and previously broken ankles but have enough protection in the ollie area and wide enough in the toes to not crush them in the way Authentics and Eras do in the same low profile shoes.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CQA-q9SF5ek/
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Im currently on my last pair of half cab pros and they're getting pretty roached. I want to order a pair of the skate half cabs and the skate sk8 highs but the fact that they decided to call them skate sk8 highs is making it really hard lol. May say fuck it and try out some emericas idk.
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Im currently on my last pair of half cab pros and they're getting pretty roached. I want to order a pair of the skate half cabs and the skate sk8 highs but the fact that they decided to call them skate sk8 highs is making it really hard lol. May say fuck it and try out some emericas idk.
Lmao its just a shoe name ::)
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Got some Skate Eras on the way, Vans Australia has them at about 50% off, nearly all the skate range actually. Haven't seen anyone with the eras yet, so will report back when I get em.
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I can't understand how people can skate shoes that gave them blister or bloody feet. Tried skate old skools and they were bad, tried slip ons and they were a fucking nightmare.
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I can't understand how people can skate shoes that gave them blister or bloody feet. Tried skate old skools and they were bad, tried slip ons and they were a fucking nightmare.
I get it, but I also feel like I took a while and learned the hard way that just because I might like the look of a shoe, that shoe might not fit my foot, which was to say quite a few brands in general, or some very specific shoes from certain brands are a complete no go for me, where as others are perfect.
I think the size of the shoe was also an issue, as I probably should have been wearing size 12s (or at least 11.5s) in some styles for a lot longer than I had been and was still trying to squeeze into 11s because that is all we had access to.
Me and my stupid stubborn self the only one to blame in my younger years and my body is paying for it now, to some degree.
I definitely feel like Classics that I give the DIY pro treatment to work the best for me though.
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anyone know if the new lifestyle shoe (EVDNT) means the AVE pros are discontinued or it means there will be more AVE pros?
I would say to to both of your questions. They already had those mod slip ons (which looked interesting and) and life didn't changed.
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anyone know if the new lifestyle shoe (EVDNT) means the AVE pros are discontinued or it means there will be more AVE pros?
I just wonder if I should stock up. a lot of color way aren't around and my local shops (and vans mall shops) dont have them anymore.
I think the AVE shoe is one to stay as they do sell a ton of them.
Also had to look up the EVDNT (which kept changing to event) which looks more like a cool mainstream version of the AVE shoe, but as said it is a "lifestyle shoe" so will most likely be in more sporting type shops than skate shops.
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Not sure if anyone caught this or if they will even remain in the line but I noticed that the new Chukka Lows with the jazz stripe are much closer constructionwise to the Pros than the Skates. I haven't tried them on so maybe there's a stiff plastic under shell in them but the ad copy suggests otherwise. They have the old gum sole for sure but then use Popcush insoles. Just wanted to put it out there for those really not feeling the Skate revisions.
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Still feeling like I get the best out of vans using the torn out insole from a non skate pair.
My have wide feet and high arches so the fit is much nicer lower in the shoe. I’m not jumping down anything past a 5 set at my age so I don’t need any impact protection.
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I got a pair of the off white Eras for half price and a pair of the authentics for 75% off. Got them in an 11, which is all I ever buy (sometimes a 10..) but had to go up to a 12 in these, which feel a tad big now, but better than the 11s which were super tight.
Compared to my Pro Half Cabs, they feel stiff as heck, but that's not a bad thing. The Cabs are great for chillers, but were kinda messing my knees up a tad when skating them. Great for comfort and shock absorbtion though. The soles definitely feel thicker and stiffer.
These feel more like skating classic old vans from a support stand, which is surprising but I imagine they'll soften up. The Authentics feel immediately way more comfortable as the little padding in the Eras stiffens them up a bit and pushes into my ankle.
They look shit hot though, off white Eras are my all time favs, and the suede toe is a good bonus.
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Finally after about 3 weeks my skate old skools feel the way I like my shoes, been skating like every not rainy day. I think the skate-line might be the most durable vans, at the moment I have about the same amount of rubber in toe area as regular old skools. Seems impossible for me to get a hole on the kickflip area, ollie hole alvays appears but there’s the rubber thing under the canvas so that’s not a problem really. Been thinking of buying the skate half cabs, even though the break in time in the skate-line is a little too much for me...
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Sorry if this is the wrong thread for this, but has anyone got a good method for removing the glued in insoles that come with Vans classics?
I recently got three pairs of all black Sports absolutely dirt cheap ($40au each) from that Platypus site.
They look amazing but feel like cement boots. I want to put some of my old popcush insoles in there but those fucking insoles won't budge.
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Sorry if this is the wrong thread for this, but has anyone got a good method for removing the glued in insoles that come with Vans classics?
I recently got three pairs of all black Sports absolutely dirt cheap ($40au each) from that Platypus site.
They look amazing but feel like cement boots. I want to put some of my old popcush insoles in there but those fucking insoles won't budge.
Hairdryer for like a minute (aiming "inside" of the shoe) and then you should be ok. You could use a metallic ruler or sth similar if you need extra help.
And if you feel like practicing Spanish: https://youtu.be/G1BtRqBPHEQ
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Finally copped a pair of the new Skate Sk8 Highs (what a goofy naming scheme) and after a few sessions I think these are absolutely an upgrade from the Sk8 High Pros. The tongue straps alone are a huge improvement and make the shoe form to my foot way better. The stiffer sole took a bit longer to break in than its predecessor but they're still retaining their shape well. As far as the physical fit of the shoe the silhouette feels about the same to me. These are the only newer ones I've tried but so far I'm satisfied.
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Sorry if this is the wrong thread for this, but has anyone got a good method for removing the glued in insoles that come with Vans classics?
I recently got three pairs of all black Sports absolutely dirt cheap ($40au each) from that Platypus site.
They look amazing but feel like cement boots. I want to put some of my old popcush insoles in there but those fucking insoles won't budge.
And if you feel like practicing Spanish: https://youtu.be/G1BtRqBPHEQ
From 4:45
Thanks man, I will give that a crack.
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Couldn't find a fitting thread for my question so I am going to post it here:
Does somebody know how the Vans style 73 dx fit?
The last vans i bought were the Vans Slip On Pro in 9.5 but i hated those because they where to tight for my wide feed.
http://sneakerbardetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Vans-Anaheim-Factory-Style-73-DX.jpg
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Couldn't find a fitting thread for my question so I am going to post it here:
Does somebody know how the Vans style 73 dx fit?
The last vans i bought were the Vans Slip On Pro in 9.5 but i hated those because they where to tight for my wide feed.
http://sneakerbardetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Vans-Anaheim-Factory-Style-73-DX.jpg
if those are the anaheim's go half a size up at least. i wear 10 in most vans skate and when i got those in a size 10 in a wine color they were way too snug on my toes.
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Couldn't find a fitting thread for my question so I am going to post it here:
Does somebody know how the Vans style 73 dx fit?
The last vans i bought were the Vans Slip On Pro in 9.5 but i hated those because they where to tight for my wide feed.
http://sneakerbardetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Vans-Anaheim-Factory-Style-73-DX.jpg
if those are the anaheim's go half a size up at least. i wear 10 in most vans skate and when i got those in a size 10 in a wine color they were way too snug on my toes.
Thanks for the Info. I just heard from my local that the anaheims are only distributed via sneaker shops and vans online. Kinda bumms me out.
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Couldn't find a fitting thread for my question so I am going to post it here:
Does somebody know how the Vans style 73 dx fit?
The last vans i bought were the Vans Slip On Pro in 9.5 but i hated those because they where to tight for my wide feed.
http://sneakerbardetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Vans-Anaheim-Factory-Style-73-DX.jpg
if those are the anaheim's go half a size up at least. i wear 10 in most vans skate and when i got those in a size 10 in a wine color they were way too snug on my toes.
Thanks for the Info. I just heard from my local that the anaheims are only distributed via sneaker shops and vans online. Kinda bumms me out.
That same model was redone in their new Skate build that replaced the Pro build. Used to be called the Epoch Sport Pro and is now just called the Skate Sport, I think. I skated a pair that I just retired, they definitely fit less snug than a Slip On Pro, they stretch pretty well to break in because of all of the suede in the toe and how the lacing opening is situated. I have a wide foot as well.
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Couldn't find a fitting thread for my question so I am going to post it here:
Does somebody know how the Vans style 73 dx fit?
The last vans i bought were the Vans Slip On Pro in 9.5 but i hated those because they where to tight for my wide feed.
http://sneakerbardetroit.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Vans-Anaheim-Factory-Style-73-DX.jpg
if those are the anaheim's go half a size up at least. i wear 10 in most vans skate and when i got those in a size 10 in a wine color they were way too snug on my toes.
Thanks for the Info. I just heard from my local that the anaheims are only distributed via sneaker shops and vans online. Kinda bumms me out.
That same model was redone in their new Skate build that replaced the Pro build. Used to be called the Epoch Sport Pro and is now just called the Skate Sport, I think. I skated a pair that I just retired, they definitely fit less snug than a Slip On Pro, they stretch pretty well to break in because of all of the suede in the toe and how the lacing opening is situated. I have a wide foot as well.
Thanks for the insight. I Just looked it up and the Anaheim 73 dx and the Skate Sport really look nearly identical. Funny Times we live in ::)
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Went in an ordered a pair of the Eco Theory skate highs. Curious to see what kind of insole they have, looks like they used cork.
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Went in an ordered a pair of the Eco Theory skate highs. Curious to see what kind of insole they have, looks like they used cork.
nice, i saw those, they look pretty cool. the slip ons on the other hand look kind of cheap. interested about a little review if only for comfort if you don't plan to skate them.
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Went in an ordered a pair of the Eco Theory skate highs. Curious to see what kind of insole they have, looks like they used cork.
nice, i saw those, they look pretty cool. the slip ons on the other hand look kind of cheap. interested about a little review if only for comfort if you don't plan to skate them.
i have the authentic SF's with the cork insole. it's just a cork lining at the top of the insole, the rest of it is standard vans insole construction. i think mine are ultracush.
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Went in an ordered a pair of the Eco Theory skate highs. Curious to see what kind of insole they have, looks like they used cork.
nice, i saw those, they look pretty cool. the slip ons on the other hand look kind of cheap. interested about a little review if only for comfort if you don't plan to skate them.
These will just be for regular wear, but I’ll post when I finally get them
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Went in an ordered a pair of the Eco Theory skate highs. Curious to see what kind of insole they have, looks like they used cork.
nice, i saw those, they look pretty cool. the slip ons on the other hand look kind of cheap. interested about a little review if only for comfort if you don't plan to skate them.
These will just be for regular wear, but I’ll post when I finally get them
I posted a review of the eco theory old skool/38s in the vegan thread. It's a nice poly insole with just a printed cork lining on the top. The insole is not quite as thick as popcush/ultracush in the pro skate lines but it's close. If you ever had a pair of the "made for the makers" series, it's the same insole.
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We have changed the construction on the toe on the Crockett 2 to be made with one piece of suede rather than 2. This update will give this shoe more durability and a longer life. It is also more comfortable since there are no seams at the front of the shoe where you get the most wear. 3rd slide are some samples that will be made and some that will not. Maybe we can get @vans to make the marshmallow color again (middle bottom) since we’ve updated the construction. Thanks for stopping byExpand Quote
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRE8qR7Aaao/
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The new skate line is available for a while now, what is the consensus about them?
I am thinking about trying the skate sk8-hi. Have some halfcab pros and although they are mad comfy, they bag out a lot and aren't snug enough for me for skating.
Are the skate sk8-hi a bit more stiff and snug as the pro line?
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https://www.vans.com/shop/wayvee-tyson-black-asphalt
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/JIA9DJ-HERO?$583x583$)
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The new skate line is available for a while now, what is the consensus about them?
I am thinking about trying the skate sk8-hi. Have some halfcab pros and although they are mad comfy, they bag out a lot and aren't snug enough for me for skating.
Are the skate sk8-hi a bit more stiff and snug as the pro line?
I can't speak on the Skate Sk8 Hi-s but stiff and snug are two adjectives I would use to describe Skate Half Cabs. I love them and think they are a vast improvement over the Pros but maybe you like the squish? From what I have heard, all of the Skate line have increased stiffness and a tighter fit. I also tried the Slip-Ons and found them to be stiff and snug but felt that ruined the fit and I came away not liking them much.
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The new skate line is available for a while now, what is the consensus about them?
I am thinking about trying the skate sk8-hi. Have some halfcab pros and although they are mad comfy, they bag out a lot and aren't snug enough for me for skating.
Are the skate sk8-hi a bit more stiff and snug as the pro line?
a few hours in and I feel the same regarding the skate half cabs. the fit very well and I'd say they're snug but don't squeeze my fairly wide feet (for reference, Adidas, NB#, èS are all too tight on my feet). My feet aren't sore after skating and it feels like there is more support- while there's no arch support per say, my arch/medial ankle-heel isn't dumping or dropping down in these). I guess the thing will be to see how long they stay this way.
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https://www.vans.com/shop/wayvee-tyson-black-asphalt
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/JIA9DJ-HERO?$583x583$)
Has anyone picked these up yet?
The grey pair isn't bad.
https://www.vans.com/shop/wayvee-gray-white?utm_id=go_cmp-9121435871_adg-94263400715_ad-415852147424_aud-473635133229:pla-869359269279_dev-c_ext-_prd-JIA9DK_VN%3A0A5JIA%3A9DK%3A090%3AM%3A1%3A_mca-8181713_sig-Cj0KCQjw6s2IBhCnARIsAP8RfAgFMNNUG3F4H8fm71TAYTYapjC9U_Rc2PICwI6c8KWoPvkFKiOBzq0aAtZFEALw_wcB&utm_source=google&radscid=9121435871&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6s2IBhCnARIsAP8RfAgFMNNUG3F4H8fm71TAYTYapjC9U_Rc2PICwI6c8KWoPvkFKiOBzq0aAtZFEALw_wcB#hero=0 (https://www.vans.com/shop/wayvee-gray-white?utm_id=go_cmp-9121435871_adg-94263400715_ad-415852147424_aud-473635133229:pla-869359269279_dev-c_ext-_prd-JIA9DK_VN%3A0A5JIA%3A9DK%3A090%3AM%3A1%3A_mca-8181713_sig-Cj0KCQjw6s2IBhCnARIsAP8RfAgFMNNUG3F4H8fm71TAYTYapjC9U_Rc2PICwI6c8KWoPvkFKiOBzq0aAtZFEALw_wcB&utm_source=google&radscid=9121435871&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6s2IBhCnARIsAP8RfAgFMNNUG3F4H8fm71TAYTYapjC9U_Rc2PICwI6c8KWoPvkFKiOBzq0aAtZFEALw_wcB#hero=0)
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the only reason i haven't tried the new old skool's are because they still have the canvas side panel. i wish they made it all suede. the rowan pro's are top notch though. they've been holding up REALLY well. but as usual, the regular laces rip. just get some unbreakable laces and you're golden.
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the only reason i haven't tried the new old skool's are because they still have the canvas side panel. i wish they made it all suede. the rowan pro's are top notch though. they've been holding up REALLY well. but as usual, the regular laces rip. just get some unbreakable laces and you're golden.
The rowans are probably one of my favorite skate shoe. I've been on a cup sole kick for a minute but I'm gonna grab a pair today. They are probably the most supportive vulcanized shoe I've tried so far.
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The Rowans are so good. I'm between them and the new Sk8 Highs and I can't decide which I like more.
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the only reason i haven't tried the new old skool's are because they still have the canvas side panel. i wish they made it all suede. the rowan pro's are top notch though. they've been holding up REALLY well. but as usual, the regular laces rip. just get some unbreakable laces and you're golden.
Hell yeah. i didn't like them at first because they were mids but after a while, they feel just as mobile and free as a pair of low tops. i don't even notice the extra height added to them, which is a good thing. the ankle support is there without it being bothersome.
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the only reason i haven't tried the new old skool's are because they still have the canvas side panel. i wish they made it all suede. the rowan pro's are top notch though. they've been holding up REALLY well. but as usual, the regular laces rip. just get some unbreakable laces and you're golden.
Most definitely an amazing shoe. Very supportive without losing board feel and it also looks good with any outfit.
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the only reason i haven't tried the new old skool's are because they still have the canvas side panel. i wish they made it all suede. the rowan pro's are top notch though. they've been holding up REALLY well. but as usual, the regular laces rip. just get some unbreakable laces and you're golden.
best shoe in the whole vans lineup tbh. no gimmicks or stupid see-through sole. just a solidly designed shoe with all the suede where its supposed to be.
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the only reason i haven't tried the new old skool's are because they still have the canvas side panel. i wish they made it all suede. the rowan pro's are top notch though. they've been holding up REALLY well. but as usual, the regular laces rip. just get some unbreakable laces and you're golden.
Add me to the Rowan club. My favorite in the Vans line-up, even if I feel they are sized big (I just wear thick socks).
Sitting on some Persian Night colorways =)
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I want to chime in and also praise the Rowan. The marshmallow colorway is my favorite.
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https://www.vans.com/shop/wayvee-tyson-black-asphalt
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/JIA9DJ-HERO?$583x583$)
The grey pair isn't bad.
I impulsed picked up a pair of the grey today (I had to exchange something and was left with store credit so why not), as they felt nice enough ;) Thankfully no clear sole like the Dime colorways (the Navy is sweet tho)
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBRwdAoC_bdCv-YabTXgWixUQ2wHewcPTaUZDJjb0Q-wfTir7E-Z2e94Y7HzY&usqp=CAc)
First blush:
Medium arch, can feel it but it's not massive.
The Mesh in the upper is stupid flexible, no toe pinch in the 'crease' area
Wide but also pointy in the toe/tip - the shape is more like a Crockett/TNT/Walker than a Rowan/Half Cab
Popcush is comfy as always
I'm a fan overall of the wafflecup construction since its inception
The lacing system, while touted as something special, isn't but it isn't bad by any means
For sure lighter than the Rowans. Where the Rowans feel like Halfcabs, or a classic Vans these feel like a more tech version of say the Walker. They give off Rowley vibes.
Going to break them in walking for a bit then skate them, but out of the box they feel super skateable (that flexible mesh + flexy wafflecup in the front being the wins here).
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBeln7EdnkQ
for those interested. Mesh seems to blow out quick. I have no earthly idea why vans never extends the duracap to cover that area. I blow through that way quicker than my toes on most shoes. The crockett highs and rowans have duracap rubber over the side but I believe most other vans models do not.
I have the dime wayvees and after the video I will def be just using them as chillers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBeln7EdnkQ
for those interested. Mesh seems to blow out quick. I have no earthly idea why vans never extends the duracap to cover that area. I blow through that way quicker than my toes on most shoes. The crockett highs and rowans have duracap rubber over the side but I believe most other vans models do not.
I have the dime wayvees and after the video I will def be just using them as chillers
Thankfully I don't blow out the traditional ollie hole area (no idea why that is, foot angle I feel). Kid killed in that review.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBeln7EdnkQ
for those interested. Mesh seems to blow out quick. I have no earthly idea why vans never extends the duracap to cover that area. I blow through that way quicker than my toes on most shoes. The crockett highs and rowans have duracap rubber over the side but I believe most other vans models do not.
I have the dime wayvees and after the video I will def be just using them as chillers
oh wow that kid casually fucking killed it for a shoe review lol
he tore a hole to the shoe AND the park !
I saw a story of Justin Henry skating what looked like all black wayvees, gonna hold up for those
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBeln7EdnkQ
for those interested. Mesh seems to blow out quick. I have no earthly idea why vans never extends the duracap to cover that area. I blow through that way quicker than my toes on most shoes. The crockett highs and rowans have duracap rubber over the side but I believe most other vans models do not.
I have the dime wayvees and after the video I will def be just using them as chillers
he tore a hole to the shoe AND the park !
I saw a story of Justin Henry skating what looked like all black wayvees, gonna hold up for those
Damn whoever that kid is ,he is a ripper. Fucking front willie looked good. Now homie has me thinking if I should try learning willies. Ha
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBeln7EdnkQ
for those interested. Mesh seems to blow out quick. I have no earthly idea why vans never extends the duracap to cover that area. I blow through that way quicker than my toes on most shoes. The crockett highs and rowans have duracap rubber over the side but I believe most other vans models do not.
I have the dime wayvees and after the video I will def be just using them as chillers
he tore a hole to the shoe AND the park !
I saw a story of Justin Henry skating what looked like all black wayvees, gonna hold up for those
Better pic of them here if you scroll down a bit:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=47259.42630
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for those interested. Mesh seems to blow out quick. I have no earthly idea why vans never extends the duracap to cover that area. I blow through that way quicker than my toes on most shoes. The crockett highs and rowans have duracap rubber over the side but I believe most other vans models do not.
I have the dime wayvees and after the video I will def be just using them as chillers
he tore a hole to the shoe AND the park !
I saw a story of Justin Henry skating what looked like all black wayvees, gonna hold up for those
Damn whoever that kid is ,he is a ripper. Fucking front willie looked good. Now homie has me thinking if I should try learning willies. Ha
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A review of the 'Skate' Authentic.
They hurt my feet too much to even wear.
1/10
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The new skate line is available for a while now, what is the consensus about them?
I am thinking about trying the skate sk8-hi. Have some halfcab pros and although they are mad comfy, they bag out a lot and aren't snug enough for me for skating.
Are the skate sk8-hi a bit more stiff and snug as the pro line?
a few hours in and I feel the same regarding the skate half cabs. the fit very well and I'd say they're snug but don't squeeze my fairly wide feet (for reference, Adidas, NB#, èS are all too tight on my feet). My feet aren't sore after skating and it feels like there is more support- while there's no arch support per say, my arch/medial ankle-heel isn't dumping or dropping down in these). I guess the thing will be to see how long they stay this way.
Thanks to you two, sounds pretty good to me.
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The new skate line is available for a while now, what is the consensus about them?
I am thinking about trying the skate sk8-hi. Have some halfcab pros and although they are mad comfy, they bag out a lot and aren't snug enough for me for skating.
Are the skate sk8-hi a bit more stiff and snug as the pro line?
a few hours in and I feel the same regarding the skate half cabs. the fit very well and I'd say they're snug but don't squeeze my fairly wide feet (for reference, Adidas, NB#, èS are all too tight on my feet). My feet aren't sore after skating and it feels like there is more support- while there's no arch support per say, my arch/medial ankle-heel isn't dumping or dropping down in these). I guess the thing will be to see how long they stay this way.
Thanks to you two, sounds pretty good to me.
A more snug fit is exactly what I need in Vans; so far, the only correct fit in the line-up are the AVEs as they are a bit more snug than the rest.
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Just noticed that Vans have added the Wayvee to their customizer thing. $145 is pretty steep tho
https://www.vans.com/customizer.wayvee.html
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Vans has been shitting the bed for a few years.
Lets all remember vans from the 90’s…they are quickly going in that direction again.
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Vans has been shitting the bed for a few years.
Lets all remember vans from the 90’s…they are quickly going in that direction again.
I disagree. Vans had some great shoes in the 90s as well as some clunkers. Same as today.
The Vans Skate Classic shoes are the best versions of the classic shoes yet. The Wayvee might not be the best looking shoe but it skates well.
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I just saw someone on the vans reddit (cringe i know) with some pleather AA era highs with the new checkered tag instead of the old vans one. Hopefully they make a run of the era high
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I just saw someone on the vans reddit (cringe i know) with some pleather AA era highs with the new checkered tag instead of the old vans one. Hopefully they make a run of the era high
(https://www.tactics.com/a/d2dm/1b/vans-skate-authentic-high-shoes-pearl-leather-black.jpg)
AA is Andrew Allen apparently for anyone else who was wondering
Tactics has them https://www.tactics.com/vans/skate-authentic-high-shoes/pearl-leather-black (https://www.tactics.com/vans/skate-authentic-high-shoes/pearl-leather-black)
These look so fucking ugly though
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I dig em, they look sick
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I dig em, they look sick
Pretty sure they're what Conor is wearing here, they look banging on foot not so nice in that product shot though.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CTkQkWFC3j6/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CTkQkWFC3j6/)
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I just saw someone on the vans reddit (cringe i know) with some pleather AA era highs with the new checkered tag instead of the old vans one. Hopefully they make a run of the era high
AA is Andrew Allen apparently for anyone else who was wondering
Tactics has them https://www.tactics.com/vans/skate-authentic-high-shoes/pearl-leather-black (https://www.tactics.com/vans/skate-authentic-high-shoes/pearl-leather-black)
These look so fucking ugly though
Something about these look really weird compared to the Hockey version that came out a while ago
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Those look like an inbred version of a gravis high top... but I feel like I'd kinda like em in a different color/material.
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Vans has been shitting the bed for a few years.
Lets all remember vans from the 90’s…they are quickly going in that direction again.
I disagree. Vans had some great shoes in the 90s as well as some clunkers. Same as today.
The Vans Skate Classic shoes are the best versions of the classic shoes yet. The Wayvee might not be the best looking shoe but it skates well.
They had terrible shoes in the 90’s. That whole pro line sucked. Trying to keep up with osiris and etnies. Wasn’t until rowley came around that they were worth wearing and i loved all that stuff.
I’m sure some of the new ones skate well but very ugly and expensive.
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Are the walker pro (the first one) as narrow in the forefoot/toebox as the crockett high? I've been wearing wider toe-box athletic shoes and now I can't wear my fucking crocketts
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Lately my local has been receiving skate vans starting from 8.5 instead of 8 as usual. Could this be because they fit different and 8.5 is the new 8? ::)
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Are the walker pro (the first one) as narrow in the forefoot/toebox as the crockett high? I've been wearing wider toe-box athletic shoes and now I can't wear my fucking crocketts
I haven't tried the Crockett's, but I find the forefoot/toe box of the walker pro's to be pretty narrow. The laces start pretty high so you don't can't really give yourself extra room by lacing them a little looser.
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Are the walker pro (the first one) as narrow in the forefoot/toebox as the crockett high? I've been wearing wider toe-box athletic shoes and now I can't wear my fucking crocketts
I haven't tried the Crockett's, but I find the forefoot/toe box of the walker pro's to be pretty narrow. The laces start pretty high so you don't can't really give yourself extra room by lacing them a little looser.
Thanks for the info, that's really all I need. Guess I'm stuck with vulcs!
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Do the old Skool skates and half cab skates fit similarly? Love the fit of the half cabs and was wondering if I should order the same size for the old skools . Local doesn’t have any in stock and I don’t want to get them at the local vans store.
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Do the old Skool skates and half cab skates fit similarly? Love the fit of the half cabs and was wondering if I should order the same size for the old skools . Local doesn’t have any in stock and I don’t want to get them at the local vans store.
No. The toe box is much more narrow on old skools. I loved how i skated wearing them but my feet hated me
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Do the old Skool skates and half cab skates fit similarly? Love the fit of the half cabs and was wondering if I should order the same size for the old skools . Local doesn’t have any in stock and I don’t want to get them at the local vans store.
No. The toe box is much more narrow on old skools. I loved how i skated wearing them but my feet hated me
^Agreed
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Do the old Skool skates and half cab skates fit similarly? Love the fit of the half cabs and was wondering if I should order the same size for the old skools . Local doesn’t have any in stock and I don’t want to get them at the local vans store.
No. If I was you, I would stick to the half cabs. I had the old skools and hated them but then got the half cabs and I love them. Size-wise they fit the same for length but keep in mind that the old skools are slimmer. If you have a regular width foot then get the same size, but I would recommend just getting a new pair of the half cabs ;D
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Do the old Skool skates and half cab skates fit similarly? Love the fit of the half cabs and was wondering if I should order the same size for the old skools . Local doesn’t have any in stock and I don’t want to get them at the local vans store.
Agreed with the other posts above.
I am between 11 and 12 for most shoes, sometimes I can wear 11s in Half Cabs (especially pro versions) but Old Skools I definitely had to go to 12 in the Skate versions (no half sizes here in AU) but I feel like the 12 was a good fit anyway.
If you feel like you can get away with a half size up or so, they might work for you in the same way they worked for me, otherwise it is a bit of a lucky dip in getting shoes that are either a bit too tight or a bit too big.
My feet thank me for going a bit bigger, but sometimes I feel like skating in shoes that are too big is a struggle as well.
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I been skating those skate Half-Cabs for a while now. It wasn't the easiest switch from Sk8-Highs and Old Skools I skated for years before, as the Half-Cabs didn't really have the same board feel, especially the midsole part felt really stiff before the shoes were worn in, and that took few weeks. But after that, they've been great.
But I've been wanting to get brown half-cabs for a long time (because you know, Stranger (https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Magazine/Covers/COVERS_THRASHER/1993/TH9305.jpg) , so I was stoked on the Reynolds Half-Cabs 92's.
Wasn't supposed to buy any shoes today, but the local shop had the Reynolds in my size, I put them on and holy shit they felt good right away.
The 92's have a bit different stitching on the top cap compared to the modern Half-Cab, which probably is bad news if your flips/ollies use that part of the shoe, but it really changes how the shoes feel for some reason. Definitely looking forward to skate these.
(https://i.imgur.com/dFmUtRIl.jpg?1)
The "Skate" Old Schools use different material on the heel tap (some kind of faux leather instead of canvas) and fuck it will kill your achilles immediately. Almost got blisters just from walking hundred meters to get some groceries and my friends have had the exact same experience.
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I been skating those skate Half-Cabs for a while now. It wasn't the easiest switch from Sk8-Highs and Old Skools I skated for years before, as the Half-Cabs didn't really have the same board feel, especially the midsole part felt really stiff before the shoes were worn in, and that took few weeks. But after that, they've been great.
But I've been wanting to get brown half-cabs for a long time (because you know, Stranger (https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Magazine/Covers/COVERS_THRASHER/1993/TH9305.jpg) , so I was stoked on the Reynolds Half-Cabs 92's.
Wasn't supposed to buy any shoes today, but the local shop had the Reynolds in my size, I put them on and holy shit they felt good right away.
The 92's have a bit different stitching on the top cap compared to the modern Half-Cab, which probably is bad news if your flips/ollies use that part of the shoe, but it really changes how the shoes feel for some reason. Definitely looking forward to skate these.
(https://i.imgur.com/dFmUtRIl.jpg?1)
The "Skate" Old Schools use different material on the heel tap (some kind of faux leather instead of canvas) and fuck it will kill your achilles immediately. Almost got blisters just from walking hundred meters to get some groceries and my friends have had the exact same experience.
You have them laced all the way up?
Also, it looks like they changed the toe box panel back to the old way. I remember in cab’s 9 club he talked about how they made the two panels one piece(when vans made the pros I think) because the stiching would blow out right there. From what I’ve seen online it looks like Reynolds “designed”(helped with?) this one.
All I’ve got to say is that I’ll take Reynolds word on skate shoes over cab(cab also laces them all the way up).
Oh and also, I heard someone talking about the tongue being weird too like it’s not the normal mesh(?). What’s up with that?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBeln7EdnkQ
for those interested. Mesh seems to blow out quick. I have no earthly idea why vans never extends the duracap to cover that area. I blow through that way quicker than my toes on most shoes. The crockett highs and rowans have duracap rubber over the side but I believe most other vans models do not.
I have the dime wayvees and after the video I will def be just using them as chillers
he tore a hole to the shoe AND the park !
I saw a story of Justin Henry skating what looked like all black wayvees, gonna hold up for those
Damn whoever that kid is ,he is a ripper. Fucking front willie looked good. Now homie has me thinking if I should try learning willies. Ha
A real up & coming Oregon ripper…
https://instagram.com/yungfr0d0?utm_medium=copy_link
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Anyone skate the revamped Rowley pros? I've wanted a pair but i generally buy all my vans second hand and a lot of people around here didn't get them. I normally skate the rowans or half cabs or slip on pros because of my big wide feet.
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Anyone skate the revamped Rowley pros? I've wanted a pair but i generally buy all my vans second hand and a lot of people around here didn't get them. I normally skate the rowans or half cabs or slip on pros because of my big wide feet.
they are amazing. similar fit to the Rowans, except more comfortable and a little less stiff. the pair I recently had were the navy ones and had the rapi-weld tech...not the more current all leather ones. also, they had a thinner insole... not the super bulky Pop Cush ones, but were still comfy/cushioned enough.
(http://soloskatemag.com/upload/Storage/image003_191106_103139.jpg)
i cant find em for sale anywhere anymore. so, this post may be completely useless for your purposes.
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Anyone skate the revamped Rowley pros? I've wanted a pair but i generally buy all my vans second hand and a lot of people around here didn't get them. I normally skate the rowans or half cabs or slip on pros because of my big wide feet.
they are amazing. similar fit to the Rowans, except more comfortable and a little less stiff. the pair I recently had were the navy ones and had the rapi-weld tech...not the more current all leather ones. also, they had a thinner insole... not the super bulky Pop Cush ones, but were still comfy/cushioned enough.
(http://soloskatemag.com/upload/Storage/image003_191106_103139.jpg)
i cant find em for sale anywhere anymore. so, this post may be completely useless for your purposes.
Thanks homie, i found someone on offer up that might still sell them to me, i might give it a try
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I just got a pair of NOS Authentic Pros from one of the reseller sites and damn I can't believe how much more comfortable these are compared to the Skate version. I haven't had a chance to try any of the other Pro vs Skate models, but Vans fucked up on the Skate Authentics.
Edit: I will say, my foot sits higher in the Pro shoe than I remember, so the heel collar feels very low and therefore less support overall, but who's buying Authentics for their ankle support?!
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Anyone skate the revamped Rowley pros? I've wanted a pair but i generally buy all my vans second hand and a lot of people around here didn't get them. I normally skate the rowans or half cabs or slip on pros because of my big wide feet.
they are amazing. similar fit to the Rowans, except more comfortable and a little less stiff. the pair I recently had were the navy ones and had the rapi-weld tech...not the more current all leather ones. also, they had a thinner insole... not the super bulky Pop Cush ones, but were still comfy/cushioned enough.
(http://soloskatemag.com/upload/Storage/image003_191106_103139.jpg)
i cant find em for sale anywhere anymore. so, this post may be completely useless for your purposes.
Thanks homie, i found someone on offer up that might still sell them to me, i might give it a try
damn if you'e a size 10 i just listed a pair of these on poshmark.
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Anyone skate the revamped Rowley pros? I've wanted a pair but i generally buy all my vans second hand and a lot of people around here didn't get them. I normally skate the rowans or half cabs or slip on pros because of my big wide feet.
they are amazing. similar fit to the Rowans, except more comfortable and a little less stiff. the pair I recently had were the navy ones and had the rapi-weld tech...not the more current all leather ones. also, they had a thinner insole... not the super bulky Pop Cush ones, but were still comfy/cushioned enough.
(http://soloskatemag.com/upload/Storage/image003_191106_103139.jpg)
i cant find em for sale anywhere anymore. so, this post may be completely useless for your purposes.
Thanks homie, i found someone on offer up that might still sell them to me, i might give it a try
damn if you'e a size 10 i just listed a pair of these on poshmark.
Sadly I'm am 11. I got big ass baguette feet
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I been skating those skate Half-Cabs for a while now. It wasn't the easiest switch from Sk8-Highs and Old Skools I skated for years before, as the Half-Cabs didn't really have the same board feel, especially the midsole part felt really stiff before the shoes were worn in, and that took few weeks. But after that, they've been great.
But I've been wanting to get brown half-cabs for a long time (because you know, Stranger (https://www.thrashermagazine.com/imagesV2/Magazine/Covers/COVERS_THRASHER/1993/TH9305.jpg) , so I was stoked on the Reynolds Half-Cabs 92's.
Wasn't supposed to buy any shoes today, but the local shop had the Reynolds in my size, I put them on and holy shit they felt good right away.
The 92's have a bit different stitching on the top cap compared to the modern Half-Cab, which probably is bad news if your flips/ollies use that part of the shoe, but it really changes how the shoes feel for some reason. Definitely looking forward to skate these.
(https://i.imgur.com/dFmUtRIl.jpg?1)
The "Skate" Old Schools use different material on the heel tap (some kind of faux leather instead of canvas) and fuck it will kill your achilles immediately. Almost got blisters just from walking hundred meters to get some groceries and my friends have had the exact same experience.
Just got the Reynolds one in the mail and tried it on. Last pair of half cabs I ve had were the green Ray Barbee edition which I gave up skating even though they still had quite some life in it, but they simply bagged out and felt like soft potatoes. The Reynolds one feels ten times sturdier in a good way, like an entire different shoe. They kind of remind me of the US made Vans quality wise (But I was just started skating when those were still around so I could as well be tripping there).
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Has anyone tried the sk8 sk8 his
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Yep. Comfortable, great grip, flick takes a session or two to break in.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CT7_tRPFzCh/
see these on 561 the other day... is this going to be a new silhouette?? I copped a pair of the dime skate mid skools and refuse to skate them, BUT THEY LOOK PERFECT. If its the same silhouette, Id be stoked to skate em, nice toe box (bordering on the wider side) , tons of padding around ankles & stitching looks pretty promising.... Vans' take on the Blazer lol
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CT7_tRPFzCh/
see these on 561 the other day... is this going to be a new silhouette?? I copped a pair of the dime skate mid skools and refuse to skate them, BUT THEY LOOK PERFECT. If its the same silhouette, Id be stoked to skate em, nice toe box (bordering on the wider side) , tons of padding around ankles & stitching looks pretty promising.... Vans' take on the Blazer lol
I’m digging these, throwing off some TNT SG vibes…but their take on blazers no doubt.
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Anyone skate the mid old schools yet?
I have a pair of the newest rowleys, the all leather jawns. They’re pretty good. I’m not a leather-shoe guy but they skate fine and are pretty well-made.
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see these on 561 the other day... is this going to be a new silhouette?? I copped a pair of the dime skate mid skools and refuse to skate them, BUT THEY LOOK PERFECT. If its the same silhouette, Id be stoked to skate em, nice toe box (bordering on the wider side) , tons of padding around ankles & stitching looks pretty promising.... Vans' take on the Blazer lol
I’m digging these, throwing off some TNT SG vibes…but their take on blazers no doubt.
Not quite sure when the Blazer came out originally... but the Mid Skool was one of the first few designed-for-skateboarding shoes Vans did in I wanna say 1977? Same year the Old Skool came out. Shown in this old ad by it's original name, Style 37 High Top
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/db/ce/6a/dbce6a9ec706255645fe9ab2ebb27eb3.jpg)
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Anyone skate the revamped Rowley pros? I've wanted a pair but i generally buy all my vans second hand and a lot of people around here didn't get them. I normally skate the rowans or half cabs or slip on pros because of my big wide feet.
I happened upon a preproduction salesman sample pair at a thrift store, before they were officially out, so who knows if something changed. So with that acknowledged, I absolutely loved them. They were probably the longest lasting skate shoes I've had in a decade or more. They skated great - great flip, good insoles, never tore a lace. Two-thumbs up!
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Have literally never skated a pair of vans ever, but how are the wayvees? I usually skate jordan 1 lows, dunks, or new balance cupsoles (440s, 913s etc). Are they narrow or wide, do they feel supportive and stable compared to nike and new balance cups?
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They're vans so they feel kinda like a marshmallow that has been melted and cooled again.
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Have literally never skated a pair of vans ever, but how are the wayvees? I usually skate jordan 1 lows, dunks, or new balance cupsoles (440s, 913s etc). Are they narrow or wide, do they feel supportive and stable compared to nike and new balance cups?
They're not going to be as supportive as any of those shoes you named (I have skated 913's and Dunks, and owned Jordan 1's as chillers). I find Wafflecup Vans to be very thin in the forefoot, and too floppy in the sole in general. I haven't had Wayvees specifically, but I have had Crockett 1's and 2's and Walker 1's.
With the updated sole on the Skate line (thicker/harder rubber and a shank in the heel), I feel like Wafflecup is kind of redundant now. It was supposed to be the more supportive middle ground between vulcs and cupsoles, but I find them less supportive than their vulcs now.
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If anyone wanted to see those Macdonalds fry cook Authentic highs on foot here you go (not my pic)
(https://preview.redd.it/dv5d9t8wcrn71.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=30cd9cd444f82b868ea14598ca324b396fb7c1b8)
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can i get uhhhhhhhhhh
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If anyone wanted to see those Macdonalds fry cook Authentic highs on foot here you go (not my pic)
(https://preview.redd.it/dv5d9t8wcrn71.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=30cd9cd444f82b868ea14598ca324b396fb7c1b8)
Damn i still want them even though they look goofy
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Have literally never skated a pair of vans ever, but how are the wayvees? I usually skate jordan 1 lows, dunks, or new balance cupsoles (440s, 913s etc). Are they narrow or wide, do they feel supportive and stable compared to nike and new balance cups?
The Wayvees are more supportive as far as lateral heel movement than the Skate Vulcs but the sole is a little bit thinner.
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If anyone wanted to see those Macdonalds fry cook Authentic highs on foot here you go (not my pic)
(https://preview.redd.it/dv5d9t8wcrn71.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=30cd9cd444f82b868ea14598ca324b396fb7c1b8)
Damn i still want them even though they look goofy
Same here. Sorry of remind me of desert boots.
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If anyone wanted to see those Macdonalds fry cook Authentic highs on foot here you go (not my pic)
(https://preview.redd.it/dv5d9t8wcrn71.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=30cd9cd444f82b868ea14598ca324b396fb7c1b8)
Damn i still want them even though they look goofy
They look like OG Star Trek boots. I am not entirely sure that's a criticism. There was a time in my life where I woulda fucked with them heavy
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Slightly too late cause I ordered them already but does the skate half cabs run TTS?
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Slightly too late cause I ordered them already but does the skate half cabs run TTS?
Yes.
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Slightly too late cause I ordered them already but does the skate half cabs run TTS?
Yes.
Thank you!
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see these on 561 the other day... is this going to be a new silhouette?? I copped a pair of the dime skate mid skools and refuse to skate them, BUT THEY LOOK PERFECT. If its the same silhouette, Id be stoked to skate em, nice toe box (bordering on the wider side) , tons of padding around ankles & stitching looks pretty promising.... Vans' take on the Blazer lol
I’m digging these, throwing off some TNT SG vibes…but their take on blazers no doubt.
With the black and white and checker tag, they give off heavy Ska vibes.
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Didn’t like the last vans pro iteration, but the leather red and white half cabs have me intrigued. How do the new skate line compare to Blazer hi? Might grab just as chillers.
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classic mid.
I cannot find a thing about this model lol.
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I cannot find a thing about this model lol.
Maybe the classic Sk8 mid?
I know a lot of shoe names were shortened, some cutting out the wrong word, for a time.
The low, mid and hi referring to the Sk8 low, Sk8 mid and Sk8 hi among others.
There have been so many mid versions of regular shoes that have come and gone so quickly though, like the 112 mid, also the TNT mids of various styles, in particular the II and the V which I still have, as well as some others I boxes I cannot even remember unless I pull them out.
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I hated my Skate Half Cabs and Half Cab pros from awhile back but loved the og Half Cabs and had multiple pairs years ago… that being said, should I even try the ‘92s out? I mean they look great and I’m a sucker for that shade of yellow on shoes.
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I hated my Skate Half Cabs and Half Cab pros from awhile back but loved the og Half Cabs and had multiple pairs years ago… that being said, should I even try the ‘92s out? I mean they look great and I’m a sucker for that shade of yellow on shoes.
I have 4 pairs of Skate Half Cabs including the 92s and they all feel the same on my foot
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I hated my Skate Half Cabs and Half Cab pros from awhile back but loved the og Half Cabs and had multiple pairs years ago… that being said, should I even try the ‘92s out? I mean they look great and I’m a sucker for that shade of yellow on shoes.
Idk why I thought they’d be any different but that’s pretty much what I was afraid of. Oh well
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Tried some on today and first thing I thought was "damn, these feel like they might actually hold up well". Hoping for the best with em
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anyone have the gilbert 3s yet? are they super thin? how do they compare to blazers?
Wasn’t aware of their existence. Google apparently isn’t either. Any pics?
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I'm guessing the Gilbert 3s don't actually exist and won't exist, in so much that this is an empty rumor .
Been wrong before though lol
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Curious about the wayvees. They look like they would skate well
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sorry, when i say gil 3s i'm just referring to the high top ones
Ohhh that makes sense!! I have Blazers but don't have Crockett Highs. Have tried them on, though. They are both similar in sole flexibility and how they feel under your feet.. Blazer has more ankle cushioning, but Gilby has a more rigid/secure heel counter/cup. Toe boxes are different so that feels different but not too much.
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Curious about the wayvees. They look like they would skate well
Also curious about the wayvees. The Henry ones look so dope but my girlfriend thinks they all look bad.
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Curious about the wayvees. They look like they would skate well
Also curious about the wayvees. The Henry ones look so dope but my girlfriend thinks they all look bad.
My girlfriend thinks all skate gear looks bad so i can comfortably disregard her opinion
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anyone have the gilbert 3s yet? are they super thin? how do they compare to blazers?
Thinner upper and chunkier sole due to the wafflecup. Blazers are vulc with more ankle padding.
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Curious about the wayvees. They look like they would skate well
Also curious about the wayvees. The Henry ones look so dope but my girlfriend thinks they all look bad.
Most comfortable Vans I have had in years but a little thinner than the new Vans Skate vulcs.
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Curious about the wayvees. They look like they would skate well
Also curious about the wayvees. The Henry ones look so dope but my girlfriend thinks they all look bad.
I wasn't into the first colorways of the wayvees but I do like the Henry, ordered a pair Saturday. Am stoked to try them after seeing on here they are a good fit for the wide footed gentleman.
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Anyone have a lead on the Justin Henry Vans collection that just dropped? Looking for the sweater, beanie, and belt - the shoes I can find anywhere. Only place I can find them is on vans.com but I’d rather support a skate shop if possible. Not sure if shops have the collection yet or not. Again, I know I can get this stuff off vans.com I just would rather support a shop directly.
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anyone have the gilbert 3s yet? are they super thin? how do they compare to blazers?
Thinner upper and chunkier sole due to the wafflecup. Blazers are vulc with more ankle padding.
More cushioned for sure. That popcush insole is way cushier than the thin EVA with small heel zoom unit glued on that Blazers use.
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anyone have the gilbert 3s yet? are they super thin? how do they compare to blazers?
Thinner upper and chunkier sole due to the wafflecup. Blazers are vulc with more ankle padding.
1,000% - it's a great shoe.
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anyone have the gilbert 3s yet? are they super thin? how do they compare to blazers?
Thinner upper and chunkier sole due to the wafflecup. Blazers are vulc with more ankle padding.
1,000% - it's a great shoe.
My only choice from Vans that I would skate. The Rowans were cool but Gilberts are more comfy imo
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My only choice from Vans that I would skate. The Rowans were cool but Gilberts are more comfy imo
The Rowans are too chunky. They're comfy but not that good for flip tricks. Gilbies are perfect.
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My only choice from Vans that I would skate. The Rowans were cool but Gilberts are more comfy imo
The Rowans are too chunky. They're comfy but not that good for flip tricks. Gilbies are perfect.
Had the opposite experience. Rowans felt great day one and held up super well. The Gilbert's sole was a little thick for my liking and then by time those broke in, the toe cap had been shredded to pieces.
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My only choice from Vans that I would skate. The Rowans were cool but Gilberts are more comfy imo
The Rowans are too chunky. They're comfy but not that good for flip tricks. Gilbies are perfect.
I find the rowans chunky, in the way half cabs are chunky, it's a heavier vans shoe. The wayvee lighten things up, same insole/mostly same tech, just not a mid.
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What are people's experiences with Van’s leather? I just saw these half cabs...
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/KYA82E-HERO?$583x583$)
...and was wondering how they'd skate compared to suede ones.
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I think the Skate Old Skools are my favorite show of all time. I love the increased tread depth on the sole. Didn’t wear through it after 3 months of skating. (mainly skate transition and curbs.)
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Apologies if this has already been covered...
I stopped by the Vans shop in Harajuku (Tokyo) today and was talking to the manager and he mentioned that Vans is no longer producing new pro models/pro models have been discontinued? I found it hard to believe, but he explained that Vans is going with the "pro-line," shoes which have basically the same silhouettes/uppers/insoles/midsoles as they have had, but is no longer introducing new signature shoes. This sort of contradicts the fact that Lizzie Armanto has a pro-model dropping next year, etc.
Apparently the plug was pulled last year and it's a global initiative. This was echoed by the staff at one of the ABC-Marts in Shibuya.
Figured someone here would know. Has anyone else heard anything of the sort?
Addendum: They will keep making the Half-Cab, and from what it sounded like the Rowan and Berle.
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What are people's experiences with Van’s leather? I just saw these half cabs...
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/KYA82E-HERO?$583x583$)
...and was wondering how they'd skate compared to suede ones.
I’ve got these exact shoes and the Reynolds as well. The Leather took a few sessions to break in and was stiffer at first. Pretty logical, but once broken in they’re about the same I can’t really tell.
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I think the Skate Old Skools are my favorite show of all time. I love the increased tread depth on the sole. Didn’t wear through it after 3 months of skating. (mainly skate transition and curbs.)
Are the skate old skools a bit narrower around the toes? I tried the Rowan pro, but the toe room was way too much for me.
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I think the Skate Old Skools are my favorite show of all time. I love the increased tread depth on the sole. Didn’t wear through it after 3 months of skating. (mainly skate transition and curbs.)
Are the skate old skools a bit narrower around the toes? I tried the Rowan pro, but the toe room was way too much for me.
Yes. They are more narrow
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What are people's experiences with Van’s leather? I just saw these half cabs...
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/KYA82E-HERO?$583x583$)
...and was wondering how they'd skate compared to suede ones.
I’ve got these exact shoes and the Reynolds as well. The Leather took a few sessions to break in and was stiffer at first. Pretty logical, but once broken in they’re about the same I can’t really tell.
Been thinking about getting a pair of half cabs on Friday. Never had a pair. What do I need to know?
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Just got these today. First time I've tried new skate line and also my first pair of half cabs ever. They feel super snug to the point that I probably should have went a half size up but I think they will stilll work. They feel extremely stable unlike even the old vans "pro" line that could almost feel broken in out of the box. Leather is very good for the price tag. Also,m tongue centering straps should me mandatory on all shoes.
By the way, the pants are dickies slim straights.
(https://i.imgur.com/WcRGbyJ.jpg)
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What are people's experiences with Van’s leather? I just saw these half cabs...
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/KYA82E-HERO?$583x583$)
...and was wondering how they'd skate compared to suede ones.
I’ve got these exact shoes and the Reynolds as well. The Leather took a few sessions to break in and was stiffer at first. Pretty logical, but once broken in they’re about the same I can’t really tell.
Best heelflip shoe i’ve ever skated
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Also, tongue centering straps should be mandatory on all shoes.
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What are people's experiences with Van’s leather? I just saw these half cabs...
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/KYA82E-HERO?$583x583$)
...and was wondering how they'd skate compared to suede ones.
I’ve got these exact shoes and the Reynolds as well. The Leather took a few sessions to break in and was stiffer at first. Pretty logical, but once broken in they’re about the same I can’t really tell.
I haven't skated any from the new Skate line yet but had loads of the Pro ones and loved them. I'm skating a pair of Skate SK8 Lows at the moment and it's great so you don't have anything to worry about regarding the stiffness of the sole. I heard the new Skate half cabs feel stuff at first but just wear them at work for a week and you should have a good pair of skate shoes.
I'm really tempted by those red and white ones but already have too many shoes. Damn.
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What are people's experiences with Van’s leather? I just saw these half cabs...
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/KYA82E-HERO?$583x583$)
...and was wondering how they'd skate compared to suede ones.
I’ve got these exact shoes and the Reynolds as well. The Leather took a few sessions to break in and was stiffer at first. Pretty logical, but once broken in they’re about the same I can’t really tell.
Besides taking a few sessions to break in these are my favorite shoe available right now. I loved the Half Cab Pro, and these ones only improved an already great shoe. I got the blackout model as soon as my local got them in and I’m almost ready to retire them. I destroy shoes fast, but I will probably get about 9 months out of these. I plan on buying them again.
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wish they'd bring back the Dr. T.
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I tried the Wayvee's. They fit more snug as any other Vans I tried before, but still not snug enough for me. I think I give up on Vans and just wear Half Cabs for chilling.
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wish they'd bring back the Dr. T.
Had the yellow and white pair back in the day. Sadly Van's seems to shun any shoe released in the 2000-2010s.
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wish they'd bring back the Dr. T.
I had that weird coffee leather Dr T high as a kid. Those were hilarious
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Vans x Rassvet Skate Bold
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0487/8188/5596/products/RASSVET_VANS_SkateBold_Blk_Pair_1200x1200.jpg?v=1631894298)
(https://www.bonkers-shop.com/wp-content/uploads/vans-rassvet-paccbet-bold-skate-shoe-marshmallow-black-01.jpg)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0491/5308/1497/products/[email protected]?v=1632275138)
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Digging the tocap and wave into the eyelets.
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ok so i know its been discussed before, but the new skate slip-ons are unbearable to wear. i wore them for the day yesterday running errands and they were more difficult to put on than any pair of sneaker i own, with or without laces. by about 2 hours in my feet actually hurt. the entire canvas upper felt overly stiff and really had no flex to it at all.
do these break in after time, or has anyone else had different experiences? i loved how the slip on pro's felt, but these things are not for me at all
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ok so i know its been discussed before, but the new skate slip-ons are unbearable to wear. i wore them for the day yesterday running errands and they were more difficult to put on than any pair of sneaker i own, with or without laces. by about 2 hours in my feet actually hurt. the entire canvas upper felt overly stiff and really had no flex to it at all.
do these break in after time, or has anyone else had different experiences? i loved how the slip on pro's felt, but these things are not for me at all
they break in really nice but they are extremely painful at the beginning, love how they feel worn in but decided for now it's not worth the struggle getting there personally.
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I found them super comfy honestly. No heel issues and they don't flex and bag out. I never liked skating slip ons and these ones feel solid.
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alright maybe i'll be a little patient with them. i definitely couldnt skate them brand new, but lets see if time tells a diff story
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alright maybe i'll be a little patient with them. i definitely couldnt skate them brand new, but lets see if time tells a diff story
it happened to me with the previous ones (not the new skate series).
They felt bad for a few days (and it wasn't consistent with friends telling me they were really confortable).
way better after a week of walking in them
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I wore mine for 2 or 3 walks around my neighbourhood. Among other fit problems, the collar absolutely obliterated my heel/achilles each time and didn't seem to be getting any better, so I just put them in a closet and forgot about them. It's not slip-on weather here anymore, so maybe I'll give them another try in the spring. Best of luck to anyone more patient than me.
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I wore mine for 2 or 3 walks around my neighbourhood. Among other fit problems, the collar absolutely obliterated my heel/achilles each time and didn't seem to be getting any better, so I just put them in a closet and forgot about them. It's not slip-on weather here anymore, so maybe I'll give them another try in the spring. Best of luck to anyone more patient than me.
Did you keep the stock insoles? I find that theyre absolute shit and make your heels sit too high up to get a good heel lock, and as a consequence of that my heel would lift and get scratched as I walk. I switched them out with some FP insoles and its a night and day difference. Also the stock insoles are much too cushy and unstable, I felt like my ankle could roll either way as I was skating.
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I actually really like the new Popcush as it seems thinner and stiffer than what they had before which was super mushy. They have less in the heel than lots of Adidas or even Dunks, but I could see how people might not like it.
So far what I like is that the elastic on the tongue stays tight and that the heel doesn’t end up getting soggy and collapse. That makes them always feel more like slippers than shoes.
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I wore mine for 2 or 3 walks around my neighbourhood. Among other fit problems, the collar absolutely obliterated my heel/achilles each time and didn't seem to be getting any better, so I just put them in a closet and forgot about them. It's not slip-on weather here anymore, so maybe I'll give them another try in the spring. Best of luck to anyone more patient than me.
Did you keep the stock insoles? I find that theyre absolute shit and make your heels sit too high up to get a good heel lock, and as a consequence of that my heel would lift and get scratched as I walk. I switched them out with some FP insoles and its a night and day difference. Also the stock insoles are much too cushy and unstable, I felt like my ankle could roll either way as I was skating.
Both with and without, and same thing. I normally wear custom orthotics in my shoes, which are lower than the Popcush ones, but still no go. I also found them too narrow in the forefoot. I'll probably still squeeze into them and try to torture myself into stretching them out at some point, though.
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skate slip on's and old skools hurt your heel first couple times
skate slip on's vamp crushes your feet first couple wears
after a few wears they're pretty sick
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I wore mine for 2 or 3 walks around my neighbourhood. Among other fit problems, the collar absolutely obliterated my heel/achilles each time and didn't seem to be getting any better, so I just put them in a closet and forgot about them. It's not slip-on weather here anymore, so maybe I'll give them another try in the spring. Best of luck to anyone more patient than me.
Did you keep the stock insoles? I find that theyre absolute shit and make your heels sit too high up to get a good heel lock, and as a consequence of that my heel would lift and get scratched as I walk. I switched them out with some FP insoles and its a night and day difference. Also the stock insoles are much too cushy and unstable, I felt like my ankle could roll either way as I was skating.
Both with and without, and same thing. I normally wear custom orthotics in my shoes, which are lower than the Popcush ones, but still no go. I also found them too narrow in the forefoot. I'll probably still squeeze into them and try to torture myself into stretching them out at some point, though.
Have found this with pretty much every vans pro shoe since way back. Had to switch to just regular classic vans which for whatever reason work so much better for me (I think I might actually be too heavy for the cushion to work, even in good shape I'll weigh about 100kgs(I think that's about 220 in American)). I've been using the same TNT 2 insoles for about 13 years but they don't fit into the new ones so good. Has anyone bought a pair of classics recently? And can compare to a pair from pre 2014? I must of bought 50+ pairs between 2010-2014 but I'm down to my last two.
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I wore mine for 2 or 3 walks around my neighbourhood. Among other fit problems, the collar absolutely obliterated my heel/achilles each time and didn't seem to be getting any better, so I just put them in a closet and forgot about them. It's not slip-on weather here anymore, so maybe I'll give them another try in the spring. Best of luck to anyone more patient than me.
Did you keep the stock insoles? I find that theyre absolute shit and make your heels sit too high up to get a good heel lock, and as a consequence of that my heel would lift and get scratched as I walk. I switched them out with some FP insoles and its a night and day difference. Also the stock insoles are much too cushy and unstable, I felt like my ankle could roll either way as I was skating.
Both with and without, and same thing. I normally wear custom orthotics in my shoes, which are lower than the Popcush ones, but still no go. I also found them too narrow in the forefoot. I'll probably still squeeze into them and try to torture myself into stretching them out at some point, though.
Have found this with pretty much every vans pro shoe since way back. Had to switch to just regular classic vans which for whatever reason work so much better for me (I think I might actually be too heavy for the cushion to work, even in good shape I'll weigh about 100kgs(I think that's about 220 in American)). I've been using the same TNT 2 insoles for about 13 years but they don't fit into the new ones so good. Has anyone bought a pair of classics recently? And can compare to a pair from pre 2014? I must of bought 50+ pairs between 2010-2014 but I'm down to my last two.
Yo Meanie
I’m about the same weight as you and I’ve loved all of the Vans insoles since they started making Pros (but none were as good as the OGs with the blue gel under the heel) and I don’t have any issues with them. Now the build on the upper is a whole nother story. I feel like the latest Skate Line is between the OG Pro line and the updated Pro line when the collars got lower and everything else got narrower/less deep. In short, I feel like the new Skate line (sorry, I’m only thinking of slip ons, I need to get some new Eras) is a step in the right direction of what was/should be as far as Vans goes…
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Vans x Rassvet Skate Bold
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(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0491/5308/1497/products/[email protected]?v=1632275138)
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Digging the tocap and wave into the eyelets.
I have the black ones, and they are dapper as fuck. I had the same achilles heel problems with the new Skate Vans many others have had, got the scabs to prove it, but I sort of stepped on that part of the shoe a little bit to break it in more and now they are mighty fine.
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That model is on sale literally everywhere too, went right to the racks.
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I wore mine for 2 or 3 walks around my neighbourhood. Among other fit problems, the collar absolutely obliterated my heel/achilles each time and didn't seem to be getting any better, so I just put them in a closet and forgot about them. It's not slip-on weather here anymore, so maybe I'll give them another try in the spring. Best of luck to anyone more patient than me.
Did you keep the stock insoles? I find that theyre absolute shit and make your heels sit too high up to get a good heel lock, and as a consequence of that my heel would lift and get scratched as I walk. I switched them out with some FP insoles and its a night and day difference. Also the stock insoles are much too cushy and unstable, I felt like my ankle could roll either way as I was skating.
Both with and without, and same thing. I normally wear custom orthotics in my shoes, which are lower than the Popcush ones, but still no go. I also found them too narrow in the forefoot. I'll probably still squeeze into them and try to torture myself into stretching them out at some point, though.
Have found this with pretty much every vans pro shoe since way back. Had to switch to just regular classic vans which for whatever reason work so much better for me (I think I might actually be too heavy for the cushion to work, even in good shape I'll weigh about 100kgs(I think that's about 220 in American)). I've been using the same TNT 2 insoles for about 13 years but they don't fit into the new ones so good. Has anyone bought a pair of classics recently? And can compare to a pair from pre 2014? I must of bought 50+ pairs between 2010-2014 but I'm down to my last two.
I’m about the same weight as you and I’ve loved all of the Vans insoles since they started making Pros (but none were as good as the OGs with the blue gel under the heel) and I don’t have any issues with them. Now the build on the upper is a whole nother story. I feel like the latest Skate Line is between the OG Pro line and the updated Pro line when the collars got lower and everything else got narrower/less deep. In short, I feel like the new Skate line (sorry, I’m only thinking of slip ons, I need to get some new Eras) is a step in the right direction of what was/should be as far as Vans goes…
Cheers mate. I guess it's not my weight but just my weird feet/Achilles. The shoe depth is the main issue tho some vans shoes I've got are so shallow I might as well try and skate in slides.
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I wore mine for 2 or 3 walks around my neighbourhood. Among other fit problems, the collar absolutely obliterated my heel/achilles each time and didn't seem to be getting any better, so I just put them in a closet and forgot about them. It's not slip-on weather here anymore, so maybe I'll give them another try in the spring. Best of luck to anyone more patient than me.
Did you keep the stock insoles? I find that theyre absolute shit and make your heels sit too high up to get a good heel lock, and as a consequence of that my heel would lift and get scratched as I walk. I switched them out with some FP insoles and its a night and day difference. Also the stock insoles are much too cushy and unstable, I felt like my ankle could roll either way as I was skating.
Both with and without, and same thing. I normally wear custom orthotics in my shoes, which are lower than the Popcush ones, but still no go. I also found them too narrow in the forefoot. I'll probably still squeeze into them and try to torture myself into stretching them out at some point, though.
Have found this with pretty much every vans pro shoe since way back. Had to switch to just regular classic vans which for whatever reason work so much better for me (I think I might actually be too heavy for the cushion to work, even in good shape I'll weigh about 100kgs(I think that's about 220 in American)). I've been using the same TNT 2 insoles for about 13 years but they don't fit into the new ones so good. Has anyone bought a pair of classics recently? And can compare to a pair from pre 2014? I must of bought 50+ pairs between 2010-2014 but I'm down to my last two.
I’m about the same weight as you and I’ve loved all of the Vans insoles since they started making Pros (but none were as good as the OGs with the blue gel under the heel) and I don’t have any issues with them. Now the build on the upper is a whole nother story. I feel like the latest Skate Line is between the OG Pro line and the updated Pro line when the collars got lower and everything else got narrower/less deep. In short, I feel like the new Skate line (sorry, I’m only thinking of slip ons, I need to get some new Eras) is a step in the right direction of what was/should be as far as Vans goes…
That’s my point tho, I feel like the Skate line raised the collar so that I get more heel lock on the slip ons. I wouldn’t wear them for a few years (after they redid the Pros <2nd iteration>), because like you said, they were too shallow. Definitely improved for me in the Skate line. I still need to try some Skate Eras to see if it’s better on those too, as I’ve missed that shoe dearly…
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Just got some sk8 lows. Probably my favorite pair of Vans I’ve ever owned. Fit slightly snug at first but 30 seconds in the microwave worked wonders. These are definitely TTS for me.
(https://i.imgur.com/cCM8EvG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RwejJns.jpg)
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Just got some sk8 lows. Probably my favorite pair of Vans I’ve ever owned. Fit slightly snug at first but 30 seconds in the microwave worked wonders. These are definitely TTS for me.
I definitely found some love for the Sk8 low shoes in the last year, with them being my usual go to nowdays.
Did the metal eyelet have any issues in the microwave?
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I just want chukka boots to come back. I like the Chukka low but it's not the same.
I know Vans won't ever do this. To me that shoe was the best looking shoe ever made.
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I just want chukka boots to come back. I like the Chukka low but it's not the same.
I know Vans won't ever do this. To me that shoe was the best looking shoe ever made.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYM9U_vM7LO/?utm_medium=copy_link
Maybe somethings in the works? The checkered tag basically means they’re skate models right?
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Just got some sk8 lows. Probably my favorite pair of Vans I’ve ever owned. Fit slightly snug at first but 30 seconds in the microwave worked wonders. These are definitely TTS for me.
(https://i.imgur.com/cCM8EvG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RwejJns.jpg)
Been tempted to get these, but opted for the Grosso Mids instead.
Do the Skate Lo's have tongue centering straps?
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skate slip on's and old skools hurt your heel first couple times
skate slip on's vamp crushes your feet first couple wears
after a few wears they're pretty sick
Got a pair of the new Old Skools for Christmas. The lack of padding around the Achilles was definitely noticeable but after just wearing them around the house for a day they feel fine. It'll probably be a bit before I skate them cuz my current skate shoes are relatively new too but I suspect the Old Skools will also be an improvement over the Pro counterpart.
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I just want chukka boots to come back. I like the Chukka low but it's not the same.
I know Vans won't ever do this. To me that shoe was the best looking shoe ever made.
Yes.
Sure do!
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Just got some sk8 lows. Probably my favorite pair of Vans I’ve ever owned. Fit slightly snug at first but 30 seconds in the microwave worked wonders. These are definitely TTS for me.
Been tempted to get these, but opted for the Grosso Mids instead.
Do the Skate Lo's have tongue centering straps?
All the Skate versions do have the tongue straps, which is a plus for me, as I like them, but I know some others have cut them out, which you can do if you are not so keen.
Did your Grosso Mids still have the 3D version of the insoles?
The harder plastic heel cup thing built into the insole is another one - some people like it, some don't.
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Been tempted to get these, but opted for the Grosso Mids instead.
Do the Skate Lo's have tongue centering straps?
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I just want chukka boots to come back. I like the Chukka low but it's not the same.
I know Vans won't ever do this. To me that shoe was the best looking shoe ever made.
Yes.
Sure do!
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Just got some sk8 lows. Probably my favorite pair of Vans I’ve ever owned. Fit slightly snug at first but 30 seconds in the microwave worked wonders. These are definitely TTS for me.
Been tempted to get these, but opted for the Grosso Mids instead.
Do the Skate Lo's have tongue centering straps?
All the Skate versions do have the tongue straps, which is a plus for me, as I like them, but I know some others have cut them out, which you can do if you are not so keen.
Did your Grosso Mids still have the 3D version of the insoles?
The harder plastic heel cup thing built into the insole is another one - some people like it, some don't.
I love it, I land primo a lot and it doesn't really hurt at all anymore. Took a little while longer to break in but I think that's a good trade off.
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I just want chukka boots to come back. I like the Chukka low but it's not the same.
I know Vans won't ever do this. To me that shoe was the best looking shoe ever made.
sounds like there WAS a Reynolds chukka planned but it got scrapped (along with the Lampin)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CYUGdynFfr0/
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https://www.sneezemag.com/
Those Skate Chukkas ET was wearing dropped. Looks like they were a collab with Sneeze magazine. Price is steep tho
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what's the fit like on the Grosso mids? compare to the half cabs? I wanna cop a pair of the blue and orange before I can't find em anymore
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I just want chukka boots to come back. I like the Chukka low but it's not the same.
I know Vans won't ever do this. To me that shoe was the best looking shoe ever made.
Agreed. My all time favorite shoe.
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I just want chukka boots to come back. I like the Chukka low but it's not the same.
I know Vans won't ever do this. To me that shoe was the best looking shoe ever made.
Agreed. My all time favorite shoe.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3WwYJ4U9EMg/WG9apzQeGiI/AAAAAAAAeSc/BTaDCeeccGwrLqlPWYmdu3aqI7r6RIrjACEw/s1600/oceankchrome.jpg)
that couldnt be a more unflattering photo
maybe i just dont get it but have a gnar for the laugh
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You guys go tts in the Crockett highs or go a half size down?
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You guys go tts in the Crockett highs or go a half size down?
you should be good with tts. I've gone half size down on a few pairs and they become perfect once broken in though.
it depends on how snug you want your shoes to be, but tts should still provide a decent snug fit for most since the shoe is a high top anyways
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I'll ask again... how's the fit of the Grosso mid? similar to half cabs? eh?
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You guys go tts in the Crockett highs or go a half size down?
I got a pair of Crockett Highs and have only worn them once so far but yeah, they're true to size, same size as Half Cab Pros, Skate Sk8-Lows, Crockett Lows, Old Skool Pros or Skate Sids for example. I only go half a size up when I get Slip Ons.
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I'll ask again... how's the fit of the Grosso mid? similar to half cabs? eh?
I imagine they're somewhat similar to the Skate Sk8-Lows I'm skating at the moment. They feel kinda stiff at first but they're perfect once you've worn them at work for like 2 days. Good board feel and the sole lasts forever. I doubt they're as bulky as the new Half Cabs.
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You guys go tts in the Crockett highs or go a half size down?
Go up .5 if you wanna add your own insoles on top of ultra cush.
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You guys go tts in the Crockett highs or go a half size down?
Go up .5 if you wanna add your own insoles on top of ultra cush.
Holy shit why? That's a MASSIVE amount of foam between you and your board.
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I'll ask again... how's the fit of the Grosso mid? similar to half cabs? eh?
I imagine they're somewhat similar to the Skate Sk8-Lows I'm skating at the moment. They feel kinda stiff at first but they're perfect once you've worn them at work for like 2 days. Good board feel and the sole lasts forever. I doubt they're as bulky as the new Half Cabs.
right on. thanks. see, I dig the new half cabs. can't really see myself getting anything more low-pro right now
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I'll ask again... how's the fit of the Grosso mid? similar to half cabs? eh?
I imagine they're somewhat similar to the Skate Sk8-Lows I'm skating at the moment. They feel kinda stiff at first but they're perfect once you've worn them at work for like 2 days. Good board feel and the sole lasts forever. I doubt they're as bulky as the new Half Cabs.
i run same size in the new half cabs and the new grosso mid. they'll hurt your feet for a day or two but then they feel nice. i highly recommend
right on. thanks. see, I dig the new half cabs. can't really see myself getting anything more low-pro right now
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I'll ask again... how's the fit of the Grosso mid? similar to half cabs? eh?
I imagine they're somewhat similar to the Skate Sk8-Lows I'm skating at the moment. They feel kinda stiff at first but they're perfect once you've worn them at work for like 2 days. Good board feel and the sole lasts forever. I doubt they're as bulky as the new Half Cabs.
i run same size in the new half cabs and the new grosso mid. they'll hurt your feet for a day or two but then they feel nice. i highly recommend
right on. thanks. see, I dig the new half cabs. can't really see myself getting anything more low-pro right now
So a 10.5 half cab skate is a 10.5 grosso mid, feeling wise? Aaaaaah. I might pull the trigger
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Got my 2nd pair of Vans, ever. The Crockett Highs. Just like the Chima 2's, they are not very comfy. Bad cupping at the heel, causing heelslip unless worn very tight. The materials are just not plush, or not much of it at all. Nike blazers are way more comfy. But oh well...
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Got my 2nd pair of Vans, ever. The Crockett Highs. Just like the Chima 2's, they are not very comfy. Bad cupping at the heel, causing heelslip unless worn very tight. The materials are just not plush, or not much of it at all. Nike blazers are way more comfy. But oh well...
did you get the wrong size? I found the crocketts to be one of Vans most comfortable shoe that i've tried in recent years (rowans, slip ons, old skool, ave pro - i liked the ave pro but had heel slip issues). Nike blazer mids definitely have more padding around the collar, but are more narrow than most vans so may not be comfy for people that are used to Vans silhouettes
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No. Length wise they are perfect. Toe is touching, but I like them that snug, because most shoes stretch a little.
Its the inner material, and that they are rather roomy height wise. I guess my foot doesnt like Vans, which all seem to cater more to wider, thicker feet I guess :D
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I'll ask again... how's the fit of the Grosso mid? similar to half cabs? eh?
The Grosso's fit more like the Sk8 Hi's than anything IMO. I picked up a pair of the EMO black colour way @ they feel pretty stiff, but I think that's just because of the weird material of the EMO colour, gonna keep them on ice until them humid ass +30 Ontario days come back around :-\
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New Crockett colorway.
https://www.vans.com/shop/skate-shoes/gilbert-crockett-mauve-wine
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I’m stoked the toe is one piece now
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With the crockett 2's, does anyone else get their heels rubbed raw by the heel counter stitching? I remember they had them in the 1's but it never bothered me, but somehow with the 2's in the same size my heel keeps wanting to lift up when i walk
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Fuuuck those new Crockett 2’s are too fresh. Told myself I wouldn’t buy any skate gear for at least 6 months, but this is hard to pass up. I have way too many shoes too
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Got my 2nd pair of Vans, ever. The Crockett Highs. Just like the Chima 2's, they are not very comfy. Bad cupping at the heel, causing heelslip unless worn very tight. The materials are just not plush, or not much of it at all. Nike blazers are way more comfy. But oh well...
can you compare the Crockett High to the new skate Half Cabs? IIRC they have the older, thicker Popcush, which I don't remember loving necessarily. I'm not sure the thin canvas does much for the ankle support, but I forever associate Crockett 2's more with the kind of lifted truck bros that wear MAGA hats and live in the central valley and still shop at Vans so they can remind you of how good they were at heelflips when they were 13.
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^That is a very strange association but then again the Central Valley is a strange place
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Got my 2nd pair of Vans, ever. The Crockett Highs. Just like the Chima 2's, they are not very comfy. Bad cupping at the heel, causing heelslip unless worn very tight. The materials are just not plush, or not much of it at all. Nike blazers are way more comfy. But oh well...
can you compare the Crockett High to the new skate Half Cabs? IIRC they have the older, thicker Popcush, which I don't remember loving necessarily. I'm not sure the thin canvas does much for the ankle support, but I forever associate Crockett 2's more with the kind of lifted truck bros that wear MAGA hats and live in the central valley and still shop at Vans so they can remind you of how good they were at heelflips when they were 13.
As a lifelong resident of the Central Valley, the Vans shoes of choice for bros out here are definitely Chukka Lows and Chima 1's.
But to answer your question I have both Crockett Highs and skate Half Cabs and the half cabs have more ankle support for sure but the Crockett Highs have great heel lockdown which is gonna do more for ankle support than just padding alone.
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Got my 2nd pair of Vans, ever. The Crockett Highs. Just like the Chima 2's, they are not very comfy. Bad cupping at the heel, causing heelslip unless worn very tight. The materials are just not plush, or not much of it at all. Nike blazers are way more comfy. But oh well...
can you compare the Crockett High to the new skate Half Cabs? IIRC they have the older, thicker Popcush, which I don't remember loving necessarily. I'm not sure the thin canvas does much for the ankle support, but I forever associate Crockett 2's more with the kind of lifted truck bros that wear MAGA hats and live in the central valley and still shop at Vans so they can remind you of how good they were at heelflips when they were 13.
I haven't skated the new skate half cabs yet (I do have a pair of Reynolds '92 on the way tho!). I'm not really aware of the changes with the popcush formula but it feels identical to the ones used in the Rowans. I just mainly skate them for the wafflecup and I just like the feeling of wearing a hightop for that secureness factor (heel slippage and the feeling of my foot sliding around inside a shoe are major pet peeves for skating). It's kinda like a chuck taylor high, not plush at all like the half cabs.
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got a pair of the forest green grosso mids. first new vans in a few years..
they're super nice and fit same as my other 10.5 vans from over the years. all the skate improvements are very solid on these. feels like the quality the pro classics had from 2013-2015 or so
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Got my 2nd pair of Vans, ever. The Crockett Highs. Just like the Chima 2's, they are not very comfy. Bad cupping at the heel, causing heelslip unless worn very tight. The materials are just not plush, or not much of it at all. Nike blazers are way more comfy. But oh well...
can you compare the Crockett High to the new skate Half Cabs? IIRC they have the older, thicker Popcush, which I don't remember loving necessarily. I'm not sure the thin canvas does much for the ankle support, but I forever associate Crockett 2's more with the kind of lifted truck bros that wear MAGA hats and live in the central valley and still shop at Vans so they can remind you of how good they were at heelflips when they were 13.
I haven't skated the new skate half cabs yet (I do have a pair of Reynolds '92 on the way tho!). I'm not really aware of the changes with the popcush formula but it feels identical to the ones used in the Rowans. I just mainly skate them for the wafflecup and I just like the feeling of wearing a hightop for that secureness factor (heel slippage and the feeling of my foot sliding around inside a shoe are major pet peeves for skating). It's kinda like a chuck taylor high, not plush at all like the half cabs.
The difference is minor but I tried on Rowan’s the other day and immediately felt it. I took the insoles out and compared to the 92 Half Cabs I had on and it’s visually different. Firmer, different colors and patterns, and the heel sits lower. I couldn’t skate any of the Pro Vans with it especially Era’s as the insole would make my heel sit too high and wobbly but the new insole feels much better.
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With the crockett 2's, does anyone else get their heels rubbed raw by the heel counter stitching? I remember they had them in the 1's but it never bothered me, but somehow with the 2's in the same size my heel keeps wanting to lift up when i walk
I have the same issue. I like the Crockett 2 a lot but not enough to endure the pain it causes me on the back of my heels. The best Vans for me as far as heel lock and heel comfort are the Sk8-low and the Fairlane.
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^That is a very strange association but then again the Central Valley is a strange place
This dude I went to HS with that later became a racist cop literally wore them to a formal event with a suit and he now resides in Bakersfield.
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skate slip on's and old skools hurt your heel first couple times
skate slip on's vamp crushes your feet first couple wears
after a few wears they're pretty sick
I just got some of the krooked by natas for barbee skate slip ons and was worried I should have sized up but searching through the thread this post gives me hope.
They’re pretty tight around the vamp but the footbed fits so these should break in to a comfy shoe. Worst case I’ll have to swap the insoles with something thinner
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Have kind of not been into vans for years but since the skate half cab is apparently stiffer i'm curious to try. How's the fit generally?
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Have kind of not been into vans for years but sincs the skatw half cab is apparently stiffer i'm curious to try. How the fit generally?
Just got mine
Sizing is consistent with what i am used to from Vans (10US is fine, as it was with Rowan's, Ave, Slip On)
This is my first pair of Half Cab, i can't compare to previous skate half cab.
But yeah they feel a bit stiff, slightly more than Rowan's (and slightly tighter than rowan's)
i won't skate them, they are a bit too high for my taste
Ave's are still my favorite shoes to skate in
Edit: for some reason, they make my feet sweat which is not a problem i usually have, especially for a shoe i don't skate... in the middle of winter.
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Have kind of not been into vans for years but sincs the skatw half cab is apparently stiffer i'm curious to try. How the fit generally?
They are stiffer in the ankle part, which in my opinion is really good for keeping the shape of the shoe. Mine have lasted quite a long time.
But yeah, as the post above indicates, true to size. Fairly consistent as Vans go, in my experience. I also can’t compare these to the old Half Cabs, but these new ones have been some of the best performing shoes I’ve had in awhile.
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aight who got the lizzies
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nevermind i see there's another thread that confirms someone got the lizzies
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I know it's been acknowledged in this thread a couple times, but I had my first session in my Skate Old Skools and they were absolutely killing my feet. I've worn them as chillers for awhile but they just suffocate my feet which is kind of a bummer cuz the former Old Skool Pro was my favorite shoe for awhile.
To those who had them and had the same issue, how long did it take for them to feel better, if at all?
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Have kind of not been into vans for years but since the skate half cab is apparently stiffer i'm curious to try. How's the fit generally?
the regular skate halfcabs fit tighter than the old halfcab pros. it's not a size up situation, they're just a little tight around the toes but they break in. the skate halfcab 92s are wider there. the heel is very stiff at first but after 2-3 wears it loosens up a little while still feeling secure. i feel like they are tight and stiff at first so that they can mold to your foot after wearing them for a bit without bagging out.
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I know it's been acknowledged in this thread a couple times, but I had my first session in my Skate Old Skools and they were absolutely killing my feet. I've worn them as chillers for awhile but they just suffocate my feet which is kind of a bummer cuz the former Old Skool Pro was my favorite shoe for awhile.
To those who had them and had the same issue, how long did it take for them to feel better, if at all?
Are they too stiff? Also- they’re full suede or partial? I find mine take like a couple hours total to fully break in and get a bit more flexible in the upper and feel like clouds, but the sole and insole stay consistent. I actually really like this because then they never flop out unlike the old Pro ones did.
I have the leather ones and those stay pretty stiff compared to the Suede 92’s I have.
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I know it's been acknowledged in this thread a couple times, but I had my first session in my Skate Old Skools and they were absolutely killing my feet. I've worn them as chillers for awhile but they just suffocate my feet which is kind of a bummer cuz the former Old Skool Pro was my favorite shoe for awhile.
To those who had them and had the same issue, how long did it take for them to feel better, if at all?
Are they too stiff? Also- they’re full suede or partial? I find mine take like a couple hours total to fully break in and get a bit more flexible in the upper and feel like clouds, but the sole and insole stay consistent.I actually really like this because then they never flop out unlike the old Pro ones did.
I have the leather ones and those stay pretty stiff compared to the Suede 92’s I have.
They're partial suede. The black and white ones, specifically. I think the stiffness has been a huge improvement for the other revamped models so I guess I'll just keep trying these. The old ones did sag out kinda quick but they were also my favorite silhouette.
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I know it's been acknowledged in this thread a couple times, but I had my first session in my Skate Old Skools and they were absolutely killing my feet. I've worn them as chillers for awhile but they just suffocate my feet which is kind of a bummer cuz the former Old Skool Pro was my favorite shoe for awhile.
To those who had them and had the same issue, how long did it take for them to feel better, if at all?
Are they too stiff? Also- they’re full suede or partial? I find mine take like a couple hours total to fully break in and get a bit more flexible in the upper and feel like clouds, but the sole and insole stay consistent.I actually really like this because then they never flop out unlike the old Pro ones did.
I have the leather ones and those stay pretty stiff compared to the Suede 92’s I have.
They're partial suede. The black and white ones, specifically. I think the stiffness has been a huge improvement for the other revamped models so I guess I'll just keep trying these. The old ones did sag out kinda quick but they were also my favorite silhouette.
it’s been a little while since i had the Skate Old Skools but if i remember correctly, my big issue with them was the heel. It just took me some time to kinda squish down the heels a bit to make em a bit less stiff. Gave em a few twists too and that really helped loosen em up. Besides those little things i though they were great shoes. i personally enjoyed them more than the old skool pros for the sole factor that they kept their damn shape ;D
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Alright, I'll take y'alls word for it and keep going with them. I've worn them around but I could probably be a bit more aggressive with the break in process. Worst case scenario, I've got another pair of Skate Half Cabs on ice. ;D
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I'm a fucking moron and read Half Cab, not Old Skool. Honestly I love the Half Cabs, but my Old Skools feel weird. They're canvas suede all black with white stitching and laces. The ankle area feels uncomfortable but got softer- the rear does feel stiffer and the shoe is too grippy in the flick. I can skate Half Cabs for a session and they feel awesome, but I've skated these like 4 or 5 times so far and done a lot of dog walks and I'm not super stoked.
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I had the full suede Old skool and they fucked up my feet first. Got used to it pretty quick and would still buy any full suede Old skools.
The canvas ones... Fuck no
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I'm a fucking moron and read Half Cab, not Old Skool. Honestly I love the Half Cabs, but my Old Skools feel weird. They're canvas suede all black with white stitching and laces. The ankle area feels uncomfortable but got softer- the rear does feel stiffer and the shoe is too grippy in the flick. I can skate Half Cabs for a session and they feel awesome, but I've skated these like 4 or 5 times so far and done a lot of dog walks and I'm not super stoked.
oh well in that case we're on the same page lol. For me the Half-Cabs feel good straight out of the box even if it takes a session or two to properly break in. Still gonna try the Old Skools, but I think I'm converted to a Half-Cab guy now.
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I'm a fucking moron and read Half Cab, not Old Skool. Honestly I love the Half Cabs, but my Old Skools feel weird. They're canvas suede all black with white stitching and laces. The ankle area feels uncomfortable but got softer- the rear does feel stiffer and the shoe is too grippy in the flick. I can skate Half Cabs for a session and they feel awesome, but I've skated these like 4 or 5 times so far and done a lot of dog walks and I'm not super stoked.
oh well in that case we're on the same page lol. For me the Half-Cabs feel good straight out of the box even if it takes a session or two to properly break in. Still gonna try the Old Skools, but I think I'm converted to a Half-Cab guy now.
I fucked up and bought some not half cabs today. Shoulda just got half cabs. Out here, out thinking myself.
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just saw these vans that were made for the us airforce. if they released a crockett high or even a half cab in this colour way it’d be an automatic cop for me
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just saw these vans that were made for the us airforce. if they released a crockett high or even a half cab in this colour way it’d be an automatic cop for me
These are pretty close, but they're lows. Coulda swore they had a similar one in the high top but I think I may have been mistaken for the ones with the tan stripe.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ioSihmH_Di4/mqdefault.jpg)
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Anyone fuck with the skate fairlanes?
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Anyone fuck with the skate fairlanes?
I love them. Most comfortable Vans in years. Skate well but take a while to get good flick with the slippery leather.
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Went to the skate shop today and homie was excited to show me some new half cabs with a barb wire graphic embroidered on the heel. i was hoping to get some half cabs this year at some point bc of the 30 year anniversary, but all i could think of was Pamela Anderson's bad tattoo.
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN0A5FCDZF5-ALT9?hei=700&wid=700&qlt=85)
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Went to the skate shop today and homie was excited to show me some new half cabs with a barb wire graphic embroidered on the heel. i was hoping to get some half cabs this year at some point bc of the 30 year anniversary, but all i could think of was Pamela Anderson's bad tattoo.
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN0A5FCDZF5-ALT9?hei=700&wid=700&qlt=85)
I refuse to let Berle ruin barbed wire for me. Pam forever
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Went to the skate shop today and homie was excited to show me some new half cabs with a barb wire graphic embroidered on the heel. i was hoping to get some half cabs this year at some point bc of the 30 year anniversary, but all i could think of was Pamela Anderson's bad tattoo.
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN0A5FCDZF5-ALT9?hei=700&wid=700&qlt=85)
the next Berle colorway will 100% be Calvin pissing
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Anyone fuck with the skate fairlanes?
I love them. Most comfortable Vans in years. Skate well but take a while to get good flick with the slippery leather.
Whoa that shoe looks so rad. And it almost looks wide enough to where I could actually wear/skate them. I usually have to order Vans custom wide and theres no skate options im aware of…
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Anyone fuck with the skate fairlanes?
I love them. Most comfortable Vans in years. Skate well but take a while to get good flick with the slippery leather.
Whoa that shoe looks so rad. And it almost looks wide enough to where I could actually wear/skate them. I usually have to order Vans custom wide and theres no skate options im aware of…
Width wise, they fit similar to the Half Cab '92. The only two Vans models in years that didn't give me blisters on my pinky toes.
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Fair warning on the new skate Slip-Ons. The collar at the heel is REALLY pointy for the first bit of wearing them until they break in. Like gonna-rub-you-til-you-bleed pointy. I just physically bent them around and wore them with some band-aids for a bit and they're getting to be more normal, but if you buy them, be aware of that and don't end up like me, where the entire inside is stained red with blood.
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I love them. Most comfortable Vans in years. Skate well but take a while to get good flick with the slippery leather.
Whoa that shoe looks so rad. And it almost looks wide enough to where I could actually wear/skate them. I usually have to order Vans custom wide and theres no skate options im aware of…
Width wise, they fit similar to the Half Cab '92. The only two Vans models in years that didn't give me blisters on my pinky toes.
Interesting.
Have you tried Wavees or AVEs before?
Those actually seem sorta wide from photos but I cant fully tell, trying to understand this Vans lineup I’d previously assumed wasnt for me.
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Anyone fuck with the skate fairlanes?
I love them. Most comfortable Vans in years. Skate well but take a while to get good flick with the slippery leather.
Whoa that shoe looks so rad. And it almost looks wide enough to where I could actually wear/skate them. I usually have to order Vans custom wide and theres no skate options im aware of…
Width wise, they fit similar to the Half Cab '92. The only two Vans models in years that didn't give me blisters on my pinky toes.
Interesting.
Have you tried Wavees or AVEs before?
Those actually seem sorta wide from photos but I cant fully tell, trying to understand this Vans lineup I’d previously assumed wasnt for me.
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I couldn't fit my orthotics in the AVEs. I had a couple pairs of Wayvees but they are pretty thin on the bottom of the sole. Not a very supportive cupsole. Great, breathable Summer shoes though.
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Any word on sizing for the Lizzie's?
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Any word on sizing for the Lizzie's?
I’d get a half size up, ima 10 but I had to get 10.5
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Anyone fuck with the skate fairlanes?
I love them. Most comfortable Vans in years. Skate well but take a while to get good flick with the slippery leather.
Whoa that shoe looks so rad. And it almost looks wide enough to where I could actually wear/skate them. I usually have to order Vans custom wide and theres no skate options im aware of…
Width wise, they fit similar to the Half Cab '92. The only two Vans models in years that didn't give me blisters on my pinky toes.
Interesting.
Have you tried Wavees or AVEs before?
Those actually seem sorta wide from photos but I cant fully tell, trying to understand this Vans lineup I’d previously assumed wasnt for me.
I have wide toes and it’s for this reason that I love the AVE. One of the best shoes I’ve found for someone whose feet are constantly bound in most skateboard shoes.
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Anyone fuck with the skate fairlanes?
I love them. Most comfortable Vans in years. Skate well but take a while to get good flick with the slippery leather.
Whoa that shoe looks so rad. And it almost looks wide enough to where I could actually wear/skate them. I usually have to order Vans custom wide and theres no skate options im aware of…
Width wise, they fit similar to the Half Cab '92. The only two Vans models in years that didn't give me blisters on my pinky toes.
Interesting.
Have you tried Wavees or AVEs before?
Those actually seem sorta wide from photos but I cant fully tell, trying to understand this Vans lineup I’d previously assumed wasnt for me.
I have wide toes and it’s for this reason that I love the AVE. One of the best shoes I’ve found for someone whose feet are constantly bound in most skateboard shoes.
Same here. It’s weird. Love them. I need those white/yellow ones to go on sale.
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Same for me. Usually a 10 in Vans but got a 10.5.
Outlet pickup from a month or so ago.
(https://i.ibb.co/gyF4GVH/Vans-Lizzie.jpg)
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Oh gosh I’m about to hurl
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Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere but does anyone know how the '92 sizing compares to NB 440?
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I wear a 9.5 in the '92 and a 10 in the 440.
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^Thank you.
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Rest of the Atlas x Vans. Half cab, slip on and era.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClFSayPPkWp/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
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Rest of the Atlas x Vans. Half cab, slip on and era.
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClFSayPPkWp/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Era's look pretty good
eh they just look like any other eras
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Apologies if this has been discussed elsewhere but does anyone know how the '92 sizing compares to NB 440?
10 in both. I personally do not find '92 to fit different than regular Half Cabs- maybe a hair more volume. I tried a 9.5 in both and toes were hitting the end.
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I bought the first half cabs in at least a decade and I know that new Vans cut your heel and ankle, but dude the lower part of my ankle really hurts even after maybe two weeks or so. I remember half cabs getting all nice and soft – is this still true for the new pro generation? Or do i need to live with the stiff ankle shaft? Would be a shame, cause are killer otherwise
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I used to love Vans for their iconic and timeless shoe-designs.
But nowadays it seems like, theyre trying to jump on the tech bandwagon. Ii bet a lot of you like the new shoes they have put out in the recent years, but in my opinion they just lost their iconic design.
The last realease I was really stoked on, were the Rowles SPVs:
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and the Rowley Solos:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/00/9d/ed/009ded6fce6b0e5b73d3d604fbcbba53.jpg)
The new designs just seem to have lost their classic feel. One horrible mention is the Berle Pro:
(https://images.blue-tomato.com/is/image/bluetomato/304070510_front.jpg-7ozPUIwTo7grnNbohd6cP0HhbYM/Berle+Pro+Skateschuhe.jpg?$b8$)
And the AVE shoe would be very sick, but why did they have to choose this weird material for the sole and the outers?
(https://images.blue-tomato.com/is/image/bluetomato/304070529_front.jpg-lXiX9cgkg2WTg9sibEEhnRSwKkU/AVE+Pro+Skate+Shoes.jpg?$b8$)
I wish they could just stick to their calssic waffle cup soles and the timeless vans design. But with shoes like this:
(https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/vans-slip-on-exp-pro-test-review-preview-999x666.jpg)
or this:
(https://www.kicksonfire.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/SP20-VANSLTD-HOCKEY-AUTHHIPRO-3-565x372.jpeg?x27652)
they just disappoint me with every new release and I went back to converse.
Converse somehow keeps sticking to their roots and good designs...
Yeah almost all the brands are moving to release new models, converse doing new designs specially for women shoes, but a classic is a classic… all star… etc
In vans i only interested on oldschool, sk8 hi, slip and era models, the skate version always
I dont like the new vans models either
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What's wrong with the Chimas, normal Kyle Walkers, and Crockett (both low and high)?
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Also whatever happened with the Skate Authentic Highs becoming a general release? I thought that was supposed to happen…
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Also whatever happened with the Skate Authentic Highs becoming a general release? I thought that was supposed to happen…
Has anyone got the scoop on whether those green/red suede black sole authentic highs AA has been wearing lately on instagram are going to be released?
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how do the half cabs fit compared to old skools? should i size down by half?
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how do the half cabs fit compared to old skools? should i size down by half?
Half Cabs fit pretty true to size for most in the current line. You should be safe to stay the same size, unless you sized up or down in your old skools.
The half cabs do have a more forgiving upper since the tongue is padded and the vamp is more open rather than a straight and narrow fit across the top of the foot. Longer/more spacious toebox by comparison.
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I’m sz10 in vans , and the new skate line def fits very snug pre-break in. So much so I may consider sizing up 10.5 next pair to give toes somebreathing room. Maybe my feet are getting bigger with age lol. Half cabs felt more crowded than sk8hi for me. Both new skate line, both sz10
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CmXfFkxrYOv/?igshid=Zjc2ZTc4Nzk=
I can’t unsee it :( so you all have to see it now too.
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what an abomination
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I was at a vans store the other day. Tried on skate half cabs and Crockett highs. The skate half cabs in my regular size were choking the life out of my feet. Half size up, they felt ok but not great. Crockett highs in my usual size felt anywhere from a half to full size too long. I either have the most fucked up feet or vans is going crazy with sizing these days.
I will say, the Crockett’s felt pretty nice. All of the uncertainty about the sizing has me a little hesitant though.
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I was at a vans store the other day. Tried on skate half cabs and Crockett highs. The skate half cabs in my regular size were choking the life out of my feet. Half size up, they felt ok but not great. Crockett highs in my usual size felt anywhere from a half to full size too long. I either have the most fucked up feet or vans is going crazy with sizing these days.
I will say, the Crockett’s felt pretty nice. All of the uncertainty about the sizing has me a little hesitant though.
I had two pairs of Half Cab ‘92s this year (different colorways). The first were completely TTS, the second felt almost a full size too big (didn’t try them on before buying them). Ended up just bailing on skating them cause they were like awkward clown shoes looking down at the board.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CmXfFkxrYOv/?igshid=Zjc2ZTc4Nzk=
I can’t unsee it :( so you all have to see it now too.
Crap Cabs
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I kinda fuck with. those
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I’m sz10 in vans , and the new skate line def fits very snug pre-break in. So much so I may consider sizing up 10.5 next pair to give toes somebreathing room. Maybe my feet are getting bigger with age lol. Half cabs felt more crowded than sk8hi for me. Both new skate line, both sz10
Skate line Vans run a half size too small easily.
I ordered 3 pairs at once during early Covid because the shop had closed. I had no idea things had changed. Skate line era skate line authentic and chukka. Only the chukka was the same size as it was as the Pro line.
I was able to keep getting chukka lows but they went out of stock.
I took a chance and got the skate line slips in 8.5.
Most foot pain I've ever had. It took me 15 mins of struggle to get them on the first time and I tore all the skin off the top of my thumb in doing so.
Pain pain and more pain but Man do they look beautiful and they are bulletproof tough.
A pal sent some all stars to help out because after 3 weeks of hard skating I still couldn't re shape them proper.
They work now but are still tight AF. The all star pros or whatever are killer. Wish I had copped tho from the go.
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I kinda fuck with. those
I couldn't.
Didn't in like 2005 vans (maybe DC I can't remember) drop a bunch of waterproof skate shoes that looked normal.
That would be kinda sick. A rain skating shoe.
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I couldn't.
Didn't in like 2005 vans (maybe DC I can't remember) drop a bunch of waterproof skate shoes that looked normal.
That would be kinda sick. A rain skating shoe.
but they did those goretex halfcabs recently, too. those looked normal.
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I couldn't.
Didn't in like 2005 vans (maybe DC I can't remember) drop a bunch of waterproof skate shoes that looked normal.
That would be kinda sick. A rain skating shoe.
but they did those goretex halfcabs recently, too. those looked normal.
There are three palace goretex half cabs coming out this week. One upsets me greatly bc it’s a colorway I’ve wanted on a regular ass half cab for almost a decade after Uprise did a minuscule run
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I couldn't.
Didn't in like 2005 vans (maybe DC I can't remember) drop a bunch of waterproof skate shoes that looked normal.
That would be kinda sick. A rain skating shoe.
but they did those goretex halfcabs recently, too. those looked normal.
There are three palace goretex half cabs coming out this week. One upsets me greatly bc it’s a colorway I’ve wanted on a regular ass half cab for almost a decade after Uprise did a minuscule run
There's Gore Tex Sk8 his and old skools too (not palace) wouldn't be surprised if there's also slip ons, eras etc
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I couldn't.
Didn't in like 2005 vans (maybe DC I can't remember) drop a bunch of waterproof skate shoes that looked normal.
That would be kinda sick. A rain skating shoe.
but they did those goretex halfcabs recently, too. those looked normal.
There are three palace goretex half cabs coming out this week. One upsets me greatly bc it’s a colorway I’ve wanted on a regular ass half cab for almost a decade after Uprise did a minuscule run
http://www.instagram.com/p/Cmsp0PwsOD0/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY= (http://www.instagram.com/p/Cmsp0PwsOD0/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=)
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Good people, a question on the Crockett lows if you would allow. In vans i normally skate eras and authentics, but new year and new things and vans have the crocketts on sale i thought i might mix it up. Wanted to ask if anyone could kindly comment on how the general sizing and toe box width was on the new crocketts, and also what the waffle cup is like for boardfeel compared to the standard vans vulc.
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Yet another winterized half cab version is coming
(https://i.imgur.com/O2QCHE1.jpg)
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You just gotta go inside once the snow gets to ankle height.
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Yet another winterized half cab version is coming
(https://i.imgur.com/O2QCHE1.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/0YyR6C4/96-A4-BA7-E-439-F-4-B72-BE47-5-C7-F65956-DA2.gif) (https://ibb.co/0YyR6C4)upload pic (https://imgbb.com/)
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Good people, a question on the Crockett lows if you would allow. In vans i normally skate eras and authentics, but new year and new things and vans have the crocketts on sale i thought i might mix it up. Wanted to ask if anyone could kindly comment on how the general sizing and toe box width was on the new crocketts, and also what the waffle cup is like for boardfeel compared to the standard vans vulc.
True to size for me, and had space for toes. Opposite of Nike SB for me. The sole still has a good amount of boardfeel and is sort of skateable out of the box. More durable than the vulcs, I’d say.
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"You kids love that gorp core don't ya?" they asked, sweating nervously.
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You just gotta go inside once the snow gets to ankle height.
Which is funny because they fully could have used the full cab for this instead of the half.
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Good people, a question on the Crockett lows if you would allow. In vans i normally skate eras and authentics, but new year and new things and vans have the crocketts on sale i thought i might mix it up. Wanted to ask if anyone could kindly comment on how the general sizing and toe box width was on the new crocketts, and also what the waffle cup is like for boardfeel compared to the standard vans vulc.
True to size for me, and had space for toes. Opposite of Nike SB for me. The sole still has a good amount of boardfeel and is sort of skateable out of the box. More durable than the vulcs, I’d say.
Yes 100% with you on anything Nike SB, toes are like sardines. Thanks so much your thoughts and advice. Trigger pulled.
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Possible hot take here:
I think the waffle cup toe/front area of the sole is not as durable as the skate line vulcs. Crocketts and Kwalks have noticeably less rubber than the vulcs to wear away. Plus they feel softer/more pliable then Sk8 Hi or Half Cab.
They also feel softer in the front of the shoe compared to the vulcs. Waffle cup is supposed to be support meets boardfeel but it's just more boardfeel on a "cup " sole... Pretty much a "glorified" vulc.
Wafflecup feels less durable and supportive compared to Skate vulcs. That's my hot take
They do skate well if you like how they fit/feel on a board, tho!
I nearly blew through a pair of Kwalks rubber on the toe in 1 week a couple years ago when filming/skating regularly.
That was a first and the current Skate line Half Cabs definitely don't do that. Crockett could do that but haven't skated them in awhile. Come to think of it, nearly all of my shoes in 16.5 years of skating have not done that.
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Yet another winterized half cab version is coming
(https://i.imgur.com/O2QCHE1.jpg)
why come though
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Possible hot take here:
I think the waffle cup toe/front area of the sole is not as durable as the skate line vulcs. Crocketts and Kwalks have noticeably less rubber than the vulcs to wear away. Plus they feel softer/more pliable then Sk8 Hi or Half Cab.
They also feel softer in the front of the shoe compared to the vulcs. Waffle cup is supposed to be support meets boardfeel but it's just more boardfeel on a "cup " sole... Pretty much a "glorified" vulc.
Wafflecup feels less durable and supportive compared to Skate vulcs. That's my hot take
They do skate well if you like how they fit/feel on a board, tho!
I nearly blew through a pair of Kwalks rubber on the toe in 1 week a couple years ago when filming/skating regularly.
That was a first and the current Skate line Half Cabs definitely don't do that. Crockett could do that but haven't skated them in awhile. Come to think of it, nearly all of my shoes in 16.5 years of skating have not done that.
Vans vulcs would be perfect if not for that foxing tape peeling off of the waffle sole problem that is so common. This can happen even in ones I don’t skate in. If they fixed that, I’d have no complaints really.
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Possible hot take here:
I think the waffle cup toe/front area of the sole is not as durable as the skate line vulcs. Crocketts and Kwalks have noticeably less rubber than the vulcs to wear away. Plus they feel softer/more pliable then Sk8 Hi or Half Cab.
They also feel softer in the front of the shoe compared to the vulcs. Waffle cup is supposed to be support meets boardfeel but it's just more boardfeel on a "cup " sole... Pretty much a "glorified" vulc.
Wafflecup feels less durable and supportive compared to Skate vulcs. That's my hot take
They do skate well if you like how they fit/feel on a board, tho!
I nearly blew through a pair of Kwalks rubber on the toe in 1 week a couple years ago when filming/skating regularly.
That was a first and the current Skate line Half Cabs definitely don't do that. Crockett could do that but haven't skated them in awhile. Come to think of it, nearly all of my shoes in 16.5 years of skating have not done that.
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I like the “hot take”. I haven't personally done any filming, but I did used to pulverise vulcs when i road bmx brakeless and used the soles to brake on the back tyre. (I digress) So does “softer” mean more boardfeel than the skate classics vulc in your opinion?
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Possible hot take here:
I think the waffle cup toe/front area of the sole is not as durable as the skate line vulcs. Crocketts and Kwalks have noticeably less rubber than the vulcs to wear away. Plus they feel softer/more pliable then Sk8 Hi or Half Cab.
They also feel softer in the front of the shoe compared to the vulcs. Waffle cup is supposed to be support meets boardfeel but it's just more boardfeel on a "cup " sole... Pretty much a "glorified" vulc.
Wafflecup feels less durable and supportive compared to Skate vulcs. That's my hot take
They do skate well if you like how they fit/feel on a board, tho!
I nearly blew through a pair of Kwalks rubber on the toe in 1 week a couple years ago when filming/skating regularly.
That was a first and the current Skate line Half Cabs definitely don't do that. Crockett could do that but haven't skated them in awhile. Come to think of it, nearly all of my shoes in 16.5 years of skating have not done that.
Vans vulcs would be perfect if not for that foxing tape peeling off of the waffle sole problem that is so common. This can happen even in ones I don’t skate in. If they fixed that, I’d have no complaints really.
what's annoying is that i found some of my old, heavily skated carroll's recently and the foxing is still bonded to the shoe super good. they definitely have lowered the quality over time. i was a multi-decade vans wearer but gave up on them a few years ago.
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I really like those MTE halfcabs, I’ve been trying to find a pair of their sk8hi ones in my size forever, but I might just wait out for these now
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I don't get people skating Vans unless you're really young.
Pros were ok-ish but they lasted very little, sure the skate ones fixed that but now they feel like crap.
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I don't get people skating Vans unless you're really young.
Pros were ok-ish but they lasted very little, sure the skate ones fixed that but now they feel like crap.
I totally understand the dislike for Vans shoes and often tell people there are way better, longer lasting or other options in different brands, but I would never wear anything else nowdays (at almost fifty in a couple of years) but it does come with a cost.
The main thing for me is how I know exactly what they feel like, exactly how they will perform every single time, can put on a new pair from day one (after I have modified them to how I like them) and they are pretty much perfect from the first session, through to the last session, with only a bit of super glue on stitches or a little shoe goo on high wear areas.
More often than not I prefer the classic / stiffer versions of shoes I wear a lot, strip out the glued in insole, angle grind round the bottom edge, mainly just taking the white trim off and giving the gum a slight angle, put in modified pro insoles with cardboard "orthotic like fit" and they are perfect - from Half Cabs, Old Skools, Era, Authentic and the Sk8 low, mid or hi, along with some others I have, all those in pro versions and others like the 112 pro, but yes the pro versions are so soft and more prone to blowing out and the vulc trim coming away from the sole or the shoe upper.
People look at me funny when I explain what I do to a pair of shoes before I wear them, but that is ok. I know I am all kinds of weird like that, but from doing this for so long, it is pretty easy and not at all difficult for me to do.
Trying to wear in any other brand or option of shoe is what makes me go mad and causes great difficulty, so I will take what I know and love every time, even with the little bit of extra work I have to put in to get them just right.
Even the AVE shoe, or some of the Vans cup options are a hard no for me, but would work better for a lot of people who need more support or a more solid shoe. Tried them and within a day or so, my ankles, knees and feet are killing me, so it is this not so simple vulc shoe combination that I keep up with and this is all I wear, to skate, to work, to go shopping, etc.
I also have a few pairs of the new Skate range - Old Skools, Sk8 low and something else, but haven't worn them much at all as I can't modify them as easily and tried wearing them more as is, then put them back in their boxes to try again later and have never got them back out.
Got way too many pairs of normal shoes still to go though, so not a worry there.
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I like the Ultra Cush and the Pop Cush quite a bit. I think the Pop Cush models seem like an improvement over the Ultra but I was still really happy with those too. I am wearing the Chima ones from awhile ago which are Ultra and I dont have any complaints at all really other than they feel a bit loose and hard compared to the new Pop Half Cabs i just got. those feel great and for the price maybe i will have to switch off of NB#. I just have to see how they last but I really like how they feel so far. they feel the perfect width to my foot and the materials feel nice on your feet. its very snug but it feels cushiony and doesnt hurt / feel hard or tight. board feel is pretty good - its different to the NB 306 I am used to but it definintely still works for me. there are advantages and disadvantages to both and i cant say i would pick one over the other.
i wear ultra Sk8 Hi MTE for my snowskate shoe and man that is a great shoe. I cant wait to get a version with pop cush, i think its going to be a such a nice shoe.
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I don't get people skating Vans unless you're really young.
Pros were ok-ish but they lasted very little, sure the skate ones fixed that but now they feel like crap.
They make some models of shoes which fit my feet and my skating very well so I continue to buy them when I need new skate shoes. I don't understand what age could possible have to do with it.
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I don't get people skating Vans unless you're really young.
Pros were ok-ish but they lasted very little, sure the skate ones fixed that but now they feel like crap.
They make some models of shoes which fit my feet and my skating very well so I continue to buy them when I need new skate shoes. I don't understand what age could possible have to do with it.
If anything wouldn't older people be more into vans?
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I don't get people skating Vans unless you're really young.
Pros were ok-ish but they lasted very little, sure the skate ones fixed that but now they feel like crap.
They make some models of shoes which fit my feet and my skating very well so I continue to buy them when I need new skate shoes. I don't understand what age could possible have to do with it.
Vans are hugely popular with young non-skaters, that's for sure, but also yeah, one would think that the old heads who grew up with Airwalk, Vision and Vans as the only legit skate shoe options would have fond feelings for the brand.
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I dont fuck with Vans at all usualy but I must say the last 2 pairs of Vans I skated in were really really good. (Ultrarange Pro and the Kyle Walker 2s). It seems like their cupsole options (that aren't trying to simulate a vulc) are really good but their other options are unsupportive and don't really last that long.
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I don't get people skating Vans unless you're really young.
Pros were ok-ish but they lasted very little, sure the skate ones fixed that but now they feel like crap.
They make some models of shoes which fit my feet and my skating very well so I continue to buy them when I need new skate shoes. I don't understand what age could possible have to do with it.
I think most old people have been to enough malls to see that Vans is mostly a lifestyle brand and/or are pretty aware that they have their own flaws and faults like any other brand. I see a lot of older bowl trolls rocking brands you wouldn't expect lately when you'd assume they'd have sk8-hi's to go with their 80's shaped decks.
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I don't get people skating Vans unless you're really young.
Pros were ok-ish but they lasted very little, sure the skate ones fixed that but now they feel like crap.
They make some models of shoes which fit my feet and my skating very well so I continue to buy them when I need new skate shoes. I don't understand what age could possible have to do with it.
I think most old people have been to enough malls to see that Vans is mostly a lifestyle brand and/or are pretty aware that they have their own flaws and faults like any other brand. I see a lot of older bowl trolls rocking brands you wouldn't expect lately when you'd assume they'd have sk8-hi's to go with their 80's shaped decks.
There are still malls where you are?
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Strip malls I guess, but ya, large "fashion centers". Essentially a mall, but it's not all under one roof.
I mean, it doesn't matter anyways since all these posers don't know it's spelled "Old Skool"
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Vans are great and the skate line has not disappointed me or a bunch of other skaters I know who choose them consistently.
I bought some of the slip ons recently and they feel awesome. A little stiff right now but no doubt they'll break in and feel snug like they tend to do.
If you like a good, fairly durable vulc then there's not much better out there.
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from time to time I forget how much my feet hurt on vans and buy a new pair just cause they look good, only to regret it in the first session and then never using them for walking or work, it happened me with the rowleys, berles, crocket 1 and 2 ;D
only good vans of the last years was the ultrarange pro
it had a real cupsole foam and waffle grip, they had nailed the perfect combo
it needed more ventilation and some colors
but they didn't kept that line of shoe soles :(
the nice thing about them its that the grip its always there if you skate a lot of tranny or parks, but basic flatground skating for a 33 years old dude like me, feels like an impact test after a while.
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For me personally, if i venture away from Vans i soon come back. They arent the best shoes, but as an old git bowl troll with the odd slappy, they are a known quantity. I have tried Numeric, Adidas, Etnies, Emerica, i even tried some Last Resorts, all great shoes but cant help feeling i look like mutton dressed as lamb.
If anyone from Vans is listening (as that nice fellow @rothdigga does on the new balance thread) then please could you consider reducing the height of popcush insoles so feet feel lower in the shoe, abandon duracap as it makes the shoes feel a bit plasticy, and up your natural suede quality instead. Be nice to make some canvas eras with a rubber ollie patch on the outside, and finally realise that you have a classic shoe in the making and turn the hightop canvas authentics into a regular shoe run, not just an Andrew Allen one off.
Just a thought. Thanks
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Possible hot take here:
I think the waffle cup toe/front area of the sole is not as durable as the skate line vulcs. Crocketts and Kwalks have noticeably less rubber than the vulcs to wear away. Plus they feel softer/more pliable then Sk8 Hi or Half Cab.
They also feel softer in the front of the shoe compared to the vulcs. Waffle cup is supposed to be support meets boardfeel but it's just more boardfeel on a "cup " sole... Pretty much a "glorified" vulc.
Wafflecup feels less durable and supportive compared to Skate vulcs. That's my hot take
They do skate well if you like how they fit/feel on a board, tho!
I nearly blew through a pair of Kwalks rubber on the toe in 1 week a couple years ago when filming/skating regularly.
That was a first and the current Skate line Half Cabs definitely don't do that. Crockett could do that but haven't skated them in awhile. Come to think of it, nearly all of my shoes in 16.5 years of skating have not done that.
Vans vulcs would be perfect if not for that foxing tape peeling off of the waffle sole problem that is so common. This can happen even in ones I don’t skate in. If they fixed that, I’d have no complaints really.
it's usually considered a defect and it should get you a new pair for free
I just did a return request today for a customer and it went straight to refund for me and a fresh pair for my customer. Customer can keep the defective shoe (VANS don't ask you to return defective product) and try some superglue tinkering.
I know it would be better without this flaw but at least they know it's a flaw and act accordingly
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vans needs to bring back the 112 pro. That shoe should have never been discontinued. The end.
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vans needs to bring back the 112 pro. That shoe should have never been discontinued. The end.
the 112 pro was a solid shoe. the canvas model was pretty darn tough. although, if it was still on the shelves today, i would prefer to skate in halfcabs for the classic look or the rowan pros if i'm skating vans vulcs #teamcrocketthigh
i assume people aren't really into rubber toe caps anymore and if they are, cons and clearweather fill that void
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@JK42 the authentic high is perfect
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For me personally, if i venture away from Vans i soon come back. They arent the best shoes, but as an old git bowl troll with the odd slappy, they are a known quantity. I have tried Numeric, Adidas, Etnies, Emerica, i even tried some Last Resorts, all great shoes but cant help feeling i look like mutton dressed as lamb.
If anyone from Vans is listening (as that nice fellow @rothdigga does on the new balance thread) then please could you consider reducing the height of popcush insoles so feet feel lower in the shoe, abandon duracap as it makes the shoes feel a bit plasticy, and up your natural suede quality instead. Be nice to make some canvas eras with a rubber ollie patch on the outside, and finally realise that you have a classic shoe in the making and turn the hightop canvas authentics into a regular shoe run, not just an Andrew Allen one off.
Just a thought. Thanks
Nearly 40, skating mostly ledges & flat ground
Keep the DuraCap 1000%, makes the shoe feel solid
The rest of the sentiment is moderately accurate.
Shoulda kept the original Chima Pro in the lineup, was a perfect shoe that the idiots running Vans decided to discontinue.
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Just picked up some Grosso Mids because Jeff is a legend and they look great. Nice shoe but they have the Ultracush 3D insole in them? Its like i have gone back to 2018, and getting plantar fasciitis flashbacks from the TNTs! Did they have a few boxes of old 3Ds lying around and thought “these will do, the oldies won’t notice”. The listings on vans websites all say Popcush as well. Hey Vans!!! What is this shenanigans!?
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Just picked up some Grosso Mids because Jeff is a legend and they look great. Nice shoe but they have the Ultracush 3D insole in them? Its like i have gone back to 2018, and getting plantar fasciitis flashbacks from the TNTs! Did they have a few boxes of old 3Ds lying around and thought “these will do, the oldies won’t notice”. The listings on vans websites all say Popcush as well. Hey Vans!!! What is this shenanigans!?
I've only ever seen the Grosso mids with the 3D whatever insole in them. I think that's meant to be their main point of difference between the Sk8 hi (apart from the height difference of course)
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Just picked up some Grosso Mids because Jeff is a legend and they look great. Nice shoe but they have the Ultracush 3D insole in them? Its like i have gone back to 2018, and getting plantar fasciitis flashbacks from the TNTs! Did they have a few boxes of old 3Ds lying around and thought “these will do, the oldies won’t notice”. The listings on vans websites all say Popcush as well. Hey Vans!!! What is this shenanigans!?
This may be very true, but online (both Vans and other sellers) it lists as popcush, with the whole Popcush is awesome graphic and splash. So the Grosso Highs are Popcush?
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Just picked up some Grosso Mids because Jeff is a legend and they look great. Nice shoe but they have the Ultracush 3D insole in them? Its like i have gone back to 2018, and getting plantar fasciitis flashbacks from the TNTs! Did they have a few boxes of old 3Ds lying around and thought “these will do, the oldies won’t notice”. The listings on vans websites all say Popcush as well. Hey Vans!!! What is this shenanigans!?
Hmm unless it varies colorway to colorway I think the Grosso label always has the ultra 3D insole and the skate (little checker flag) Sk8 hi has the popcush.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW6Kq0wpYT-/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
https://www.instagram.com/p/CZkcekVv4xe/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=
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That Grosso insole is ubershit.
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That Grosso insole is ubershit.
maybe, but it was grosso's preferred insole so i can see why vans keeps using it for these colorways
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CmXfFkxrYOv/?igshid=Zjc2ZTc4Nzk=
I can’t unsee it :( so you all have to see it now too.
The Vimbs
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Just picked up some Grosso Mids because Jeff is a legend and they look great. Nice shoe but they have the Ultracush 3D insole in them? Its like i have gone back to 2018, and getting plantar fasciitis flashbacks from the TNTs! Did they have a few boxes of old 3Ds lying around and thought “these will do, the oldies won’t notice”. The listings on vans websites all say Popcush as well. Hey Vans!!! What is this shenanigans!?
I think everything has been covered - from what I have seen all Grosso Mid shoes have the 3D insole - for which most of the people who have them either don't notice or have thought they worked well for them. Personally they are a little too stiff for me, but I change out the insoles for others anyway.
As to what is on websites, I have long thought what I read on some of the listings is from someone copy and pasting general information or some marketing crap that is either misguided or completely incorrect, in some cases.
Vans websites are no different, but I guess the intimate knowledge of which shoe has which insole options can really only be learned by being around the shoes, trying them on, or at the very least pulling up the insole to see which one is being used in which shoes, whenever a new style comes into a shop.
Eg the Chukka Low (both versions - no side stripe and side stripe) have the old Rowley preferred insoles, which are more the flat foam versions, thinner than any popcush or ultracush, but work well, especially with another flat foam insole under them for me.
A few other shoes also had the 3D insole, including the Chima shoe, which has been discontinued, or the TNT Advanced Prototype shoe, as mentioned.
The Skate versions (checkered tag) all have quite a few upgraded features including a thicker gum sole with a thinner insole, when compared to previous versions.
I guess the unfortunate thing here is if someone prefers a certain insole, but gets something different depending on which shoe they buy, there is no swap options, but I do find my insoles last multiple pairs of shoes, so I can recycle insoles from older shoes, especially for new shoes, but then when shoes are a lot thinner and well worn, using the new insoles helps to give shoes another lease on life, so to speak.
If you alternate between Sk8 Mids and something else, you could give this a go, or just not use the 3D insoles at all.
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Just picked up some Grosso Mids because Jeff is a legend and they look great. Nice shoe but they have the Ultracush 3D insole in them? Its like i have gone back to 2018, and getting plantar fasciitis flashbacks from the TNTs! Did they have a few boxes of old 3Ds lying around and thought “these will do, the oldies won’t notice”. The listings on vans websites all say Popcush as well. Hey Vans!!! What is this shenanigans!?
I think everything has been covered - from what I have seen all Grosso Mid shoes have the 3D insole - for which most of the people who have them either don't notice or have thought they worked well for them. Personally they are a little too stiff for me, but I change out the insoles for others anyway.
As to what is on websites, I have long thought what I read on some of the listings is from someone copy and pasting general information or some marketing crap that is either misguided or completely incorrect, in some cases.
Vans websites are no different, but I guess the intimate knowledge of which shoe has which insole options can really only be learned by being around the shoes, trying them on, or at the very least pulling up the insole to see which one is being used in which shoes, whenever a new style comes into a shop.
Eg the Chukka Low (both versions - no side stripe and side stripe) have the old Rowley preferred insoles, which are more the flat foam versions, thinner than any popcush or ultracush, but work well, especially with another flat foam insole under them for me.
A few other shoes also had the 3D insole, including the Chima shoe, which has been discontinued, or the TNT Advanced Prototype shoe, as mentioned.
The Skate versions (checkered tag) all have quite a few upgraded features including a thicker gum sole with a thinner insole, when compared to previous versions.
I guess the unfortunate thing here is if someone prefers a certain insole, but gets something different depending on which shoe they buy, there is no swap options, but I do find my insoles last multiple pairs of shoes, so I can recycle insoles from older shoes, especially for new shoes, but then when shoes are a lot thinner and well worn, using the new insoles helps to give shoes another lease on life, so to speak.
If you alternate between Sk8 Mids and something else, you could give this a go, or just not use the 3D insoles at all.
Thats really interesting and appreciate the knowledge. I assumed they were just replacing everything with popcush as a general upgrade. Both the seller and Vans HQ were cool about it, and i have traded for some Grosso Hi’s which apparently do have popcush insole, at least the photos say as much. It would be cool if a Vans rep could join the thread and cover some of this. You would think in these days of all brands wanting to nuture the direct to consumer relationship they are missing a trick.
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I think someone answered a while back. But, the 3D insole was Jeff’s favorite insoles. That’s why they kept them for his pro model.
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Pedro Delfino posted the new MCs
(https://i.postimg.cc/c43nt6Jp/1-E03318-B-F229-479-E-8230-EE886-CE1-B021.jpg)
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anyone grab the alltimers vans? thoughts/impressions?
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The latest Vans have increased in price.
The new skate chukka’s are $95 🙁
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The latest Vans have increased in price.
The new skate chukka’s are $95 🙁
Makes me not wanna get vans anymore
Sk8 HI’s are $95? I remember growing up and paying $50 for them. I get it’s a tough time but we all know how flimsy vans are, not worth the money if you ask me
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From what I've heard Vans as a whole is having issues. I honestly don't understand how they expect to put their shoes at that price point and sell, when the market is littered with better vulcs at the same price. Why buy an SK8-Hi when you can buy a blazer for less? Or even a tyshawn for half the price on sale?
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The recent skate sk8 his i got have already started to fall apart after skating them like 8 times....mind you i dont do any flip tricks really. The side panel stitching came out, making the side of the shoe sit all weird. The sole is already coming apart from the vulc or whatever. Im starting to be over them as well. Especially with the price increase. Everytime i buy a pair of blazers, they end up lasting longer than i need them to with no issues.
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I think someone answered a while back. But, the 3D insole was Jeff’s favorite insoles. That’s why they kept them for his pro model.
I think he can appropriately honored w/o foisting a bad insole on people
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The recent skate sk8 his i got have already started to fall apart after skating them like 8 times....mind you i dont do any flip tricks really. The side panel stitching came out, making the side of the shoe sit all weird. The sole is already coming apart from the vulc or whatever. Im starting to be over them as well. Especially with the price increase. Everytime i buy a pair of blazers, they end up lasting longer than i need them to with no issues.
Are they within warranty, or have they been sitting for a while before wearing / skating?
I ask because they are pretty good with fixing that sort of thing and I have had a few pairs warrantied without problems when there has been an issue with the shoes - same as the first post on this page, BALARGUE put one in and all good.
I know for some situations or some people it is not worth the bother, even I first thought I would just leave the ones I had, but sure enough, I put in the request and was surprised how quickly they gave me a full refund on them.
Just a thought anyway.
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From what I've heard Vans as a whole is having issues. I honestly don't understand how they expect to put their shoes at that price point and sell, when the market is littered with better vulcs at the same price. Why buy an SK8-Hi when you can buy a blazer for less? Or even a tyshawn for half the price on sale?
I put a ollie hole in the side of nike sb blazers after a few sessions. This has not happened with the skate sk8 his I've had well over a year.
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The recent skate sk8 his i got have already started to fall apart after skating them like 8 times....mind you i dont do any flip tricks really. The side panel stitching came out, making the side of the shoe sit all weird. The sole is already coming apart from the vulc or whatever. Im starting to be over them as well. Especially with the price increase. Everytime i buy a pair of blazers, they end up lasting longer than i need them to with no issues.
Are they within warranty, or have they been sitting for a while before wearing / skating?
I ask because they are pretty good with fixing that sort of thing and I have had a few pairs warrantied without problems when there has been an issue with the shoes - same as the first post on this page, BALARGUE put one in and all good.
I know for some situations or some people it is not worth the bother, even I first thought I would just leave the ones I had, but sure enough, I put in the request and was surprised how quickly they gave me a full refund on them.
Just a thought anyway.
They’d have to fix the vast majority of the pairs they sell at this point. The waffle sole separating from the foxing tape is a highly pervasive issue even in pairs that never get skated.
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The recent skate sk8 his i got have already started to fall apart after skating them like 8 times....mind you i dont do any flip tricks really. The side panel stitching came out, making the side of the shoe sit all weird. The sole is already coming apart from the vulc or whatever. Im starting to be over them as well. Especially with the price increase. Everytime i buy a pair of blazers, they end up lasting longer than i need them to with no issues.
Are they within warranty, or have they been sitting for a while before wearing / skating?
I ask because they are pretty good with fixing that sort of thing and I have had a few pairs warrantied without problems when there has been an issue with the shoes - same as the first post on this page, BALARGUE put one in and all good.
I know for some situations or some people it is not worth the bother, even I first thought I would just leave the ones I had, but sure enough, I put in the request and was surprised how quickly they gave me a full refund on them.
Just a thought anyway.
They’d have to fix the vast majority of the pairs they sell at this point. The waffle sole separating from the foxing tape is a highly pervasive issue even in pairs that never get skated.
Re quality issues:
I get it that people have issues with them and in no way am I anything other than a customer who skates only Vans, as well as someone who buys a lot of them to pass on to others, but the overall percentage of shoes with defects that can be returned for warranty is not that high.
Of maybe a hundred pairs I have had, sold, skated or passed on to others over the last year, I think only a few would have been covered under warranty (including the pair I got a refund on), given the usual timeframe and life of the shoe, as most have stayed intact for the "average life" of the shoe, only coming apart more so after the tread has worn down or the shoe has been skated well beyond what would be considered "still within warranty period" timeframe.
Same as "lifetime guarantee" on Indy trucks, as it is not a human lifetime, but the average life of the product, so if the truck is down to axle or past 30 days and looking thrashed, there is not a warranty on the item, but if they are still fairly new looking and within a reasonable time frame, then there is usually a successful warranty claim.
The "PRO" range of shoes did seem to have a lot more issues with the sole separating from the foxing or other issues, but it seemed like the Classics and Skate ranges have way fewer dramas.
On the other topic of price:
Given the price of shoes going up and up and up, I can't even remember the last time I bought shoes at full or normal RRP, usually waiting on sales, either % off sales, or specific clearance items and stocking up, but if I had to be buying shoes after going through them so quickly, I would definitely have issues with how much the prices have gone up recently.
I know some people who can destroy a pair of shoes within a week or so, no matter what shoe it is, but there are others who make shoes last almost a year or so. For some of those people, if they can afford all their own gear, no worries, but if they can't, they better hope that someone hooks them up or they find a whole lot of clearance / cheap stock, otherwise they might struggle to skate a lot if their supply runs out.
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Anybody got their hands on the Vans Mike Carroll reissues yet and can attest to how they fit compared to half cabs? And what’s the height like on em compared to a half cab?
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anyone grab the alltimers vans? thoughts/impressions?
still curious if anyones handled/skated these
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Has anyone heard any rumors of the Low Cab coming back? Half Cab is obviously selling stronger than ever. I only like low top shoes. A Low Cab would be rad. Seems like a good time to put something out like that
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Has anyone heard any rumors of the Low Cab coming back? Half Cab is obviously selling stronger than ever. I only like low top shoes. A Low Cab would be rad. Seems like a good time to put something out like that
The Scott Kane ones
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Has anyone heard any rumors of the Low Cab coming back? Half Cab is obviously selling stronger than ever. I only like low top shoes. A Low Cab would be rad. Seems like a good time to put something out like that
The Scott Kane ones
That was a long time ago though. I’m wondering about one coming out in the future, or maybe rumors of it coming back?
I’m guessing not because I don’t see anyone talking about it….
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Has anyone heard any rumors of the Low Cab coming back? Half Cab is obviously selling stronger than ever. I only like low top shoes. A Low Cab would be rad. Seems like a good time to put something out like that
The Scott Kane ones
That was a long time ago though. I’m wondering about one coming out in the future, or maybe rumors of it coming back?
I’m guessing not because I don’t see anyone talking about it….
Isn't the rowan basically a low cab?
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Has anyone heard any rumors of the Low Cab coming back? Half Cab is obviously selling stronger than ever. I only like low top shoes. A Low Cab would be rad. Seems like a good time to put something out like that
The Scott Kane ones
That was a long time ago though. I’m wondering about one coming out in the future, or maybe rumors of it coming back?
I’m guessing not because I don’t see anyone talking about it….
Isn't the rowan basically a low cab?
Funny you say that.
Yes they do look very similar, but the Rowan is still a bit taller, almost like a Half Cab but maybe in between.
The vintage pair of Lo Cab shoes I have are falling apart, sole coming away from the upper, which often happens in old shoes, but to put them side by side with the pair of Rowans I have, they do have a lot in common.
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Has anyone heard any rumors of the Low Cab coming back? Half Cab is obviously selling stronger than ever. I only like low top shoes. A Low Cab would be rad. Seems like a good time to put something out like that
The Scott Kane ones
That was a long time ago though. I’m wondering about one coming out in the future, or maybe rumors of it coming back?
I’m guessing not because I don’t see anyone talking about it….
Isn't the rowan basically a low cab?
I think the bearcat or something like that was a more direct inspo
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Yet another winterized half cab version is coming
(https://i.imgur.com/O2QCHE1.jpg)
Jesus wept fuck.
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Has anyone measured the thickness of a Popcush insole? Are they all the same from model to model?
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Has anyone measured the thickness of a Popcush insole? Are they all the same from model to model?
The two things I have noticed - because they are curved they fit some people's feet way better from go which can be a good thing or a bad thing, as well as they compress a lot, so looking at a pair from new is very different to a well used pair, or at least the ones I have seen.
That is why I would say put your old ones in the new shoes, which will feel more comfortable right from go and then when the shoes are worn in or getting thin, put the new ones in which will give the shoes a bit more support until you are done with them.
As to which and what, there are at least three options out now:
Common purple pop cush insoles in most pro versions
3D in the Grosso versions - hard plastic rim round the heel area
Thin flat versions of the older material - most common in Chukka low and Rowley shoes that I have seen, maybe others.
If I can find pics, I will add later, but I got a few things to do right now.
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Has anyone measured the thickness of a Popcush insole? Are they all the same from model to model?
The two things I have noticed - because they are curved they fit some people's feet way better from go which can be a good thing or a bad thing, as well as they compress a lot, so looking at a pair from new is very different to a well used pair, or at least the ones I have seen.
That is why I would say put your old ones in the new shoes, which will feel more comfortable right from go and then when the shoes are worn in or getting thin, put the new ones in which will give the shoes a bit more support until you are done with them.
As to which and what, there are at least three options out now:
Common purple pop cush insoles in most pro versions
3D in the Grosso versions - hard plastic rim round the heel area
Thin flat versions of the older material - most common in Chukka low and Rowley shoes that I have seen, maybe others.
If I can find pics, I will add later, but I got a few things to do right now.
If you do manage to measure the thickness, please let me know. I have some Vans on the way to try and they were advertised as having the Popcush insole. I don't want to actually use the insole, I just want to know how much room it takes up in the shoe so I can figure out what type of aftermarket arch support will work best with the shoe (thickness is important here). I can't wear any skate shoe without arch support, so that's why I wanted to know. It may be that the shoes don't work for me fit wise and I end up having to return them anyway.
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Has anyone measured the thickness of a Popcush insole? Are they all the same from model to model?
The two things I have noticed - because they are curved they fit some people's feet way better from go which can be a good thing or a bad thing, as well as they compress a lot, so looking at a pair from new is very different to a well used pair, or at least the ones I have seen.
That is why I would say put your old ones in the new shoes, which will feel more comfortable right from go and then when the shoes are worn in or getting thin, put the new ones in which will give the shoes a bit more support until you are done with them.
As to which and what, there are at least three options out now:
Common purple pop cush insoles in most pro versions
3D in the Grosso versions - hard plastic rim round the heel area
Thin flat versions of the older material - most common in Chukka low and Rowley shoes that I have seen, maybe others.
If I can find pics, I will add later, but I got a few things to do right now.
If you do manage to measure the thickness, please let me know. I have some Vans on the way to try and they were advertised as having the Popcush insole. I don't want to actually use the insole, I just want to know how much room it takes up in the shoe so I can figure out what type of aftermarket arch support will work best with the shoe (thickness is important here). I can't wear any skate shoe without arch support, so that's why I wanted to know. It may be that the shoes don't work for me fit wise and I end up having to return them anyway.
When I am in the shop next, I will check all three options.
For the meantime, this thread has some good info for anyone else wanting to read about the Pop cush insoles from a while back.
Thanks to @yourbreakfsat for that one:
Vans Popcuh vs Ultracush Insole Review
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=110828.0
I do have some of the most recent Skate version Old Skool and Sk8 low, so the insoles on those are as follows:
Front 5mm thick flat right through the first third of the insole
Back 10-11mm thick in the middle area of the heel, but significantly curved section up around the sides to almost 20mm at the edge of the heel area, slightly more on the inside through to the end third of the shoe.
What I end up doing with all my shoes is cutting out cardboard and either gluing it in or sitting it in depending on how thick I need to make it, but I create a significantly higher arch support area than is in any other shoe that is cheap to make and works well for me - just shape cardboard to fit, usually folded over so it needs less glue or work and often shaped to fit under whatever area is needed, be it just the inside edge, or the whole heel area too.
This was a post from a while ago now, so the Vans pro insole is different to the Skate insole, but at least you can see the cardboard I cut out for how I do it.
This other one too.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMoe64wFXaB/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B9S0MmCFxdv/
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In looking for Vans insole info, I came across this one, a bit weird, but at least shows all the different insoles in the listing, some pics added from the listing under here too:
https://insolesgeeks.com/vans-pro-ultracush-comfycush-insoles-replacement-p-545
(https://insolesgeeks.com/images/sport_insoles/vans-ultracush-comfycush-insoles-replacement_05.jpg)
(https://insolesgeeks.com/images/sport_insoles/vans-ultracush-comfycush-insoles-replacement_02.jpg)
(https://insolesgeeks.com/images/sport_insoles/vans-ultracush-comfycush-insoles-replacement_04.jpg)
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The latest Vans have increased in price.
The new skate chukka’s are $95 🙁
Have checked the vans site again since a long time in hope to buy some overpriced skate chukkas - but just to find on the landing page the fucking Knu skool.
Pure disappointment.
Someone in Italy management position/ deciding portfolio for the euro market is really trying to piss me off.
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What I end up doing with all my shoes is cutting out cardboard and either gluing it in or sitting it in depending on how thick I need to make it, but I create a significantly higher arch support area than is in any other shoe that is cheap to make and works well for me - just shape cardboard to fit, usually folded over so it needs less glue or work and often shaped to fit under whatever area is needed, be it just the inside edge, or the whole heel area too.
Interesting. If I were going to do that I wouldn't be using cardboard. I have some "archfill" material from the podiatrist. A small roll of high density felt and another one made of insole type foam. Both come with an adhesive backing and can be cut to any shape. The material can also be stacked. My podiatrist will check arches in his office and test fit any insoles that way. Then I can just copy what he does (according to the tested thickness) using the material if I need another pair of insoles done.
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The latest Vans have increased in price.
The new skate chukka’s are $95 🙁
Have checked the vans site again since a long time in hope to buy some overpriced skate chukkas - but just to find on the landing page the fucking Knu skool.
Pure disappointment.
Someone in Italy management position/ deciding portfolio for the euro market is really trying to piss me off.
terrible name, terrible shoe.
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Half cab pros with cons/lunarlon insoles fit perfect to me
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I tried on the new Vans Zahba's today and can confirm the toe box is pretty narrow. I compared it to what im currently skating in, NB 1010, and it was pretty obvious the 1010's are better quality/better fit. Wanted to try something new but oh well lol
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I tried on the new Vans Zahba's today and can confirm the toe box is pretty narrow. I compared it to what im currently skating in, NB 1010, and it was pretty obvious the 1010's are better quality/better fit. Wanted to try something new but oh well lol
I have not tried that Vans model. They might not work for me either. For me, it's not just the width of the toebox that matters, but the volume of the toebox, forefoot, and instep area of the shoe. If those things are off, the shoe will not work for me.
I really wanted to like the NB 1010s and other NBs I tried, but they didn't work for me. Even going up half a size in the 1010 did not work. They did seem to be well made for a skate shoe. I wish they worked for me.
My experience with Vans over the years has not been all positive. That said I was surprised that I could get a pretty good fit with the BMX 114s recently. Not sure if I will keep them yet because I have more shoes to try and compare. For Vans, I am trying the MC 96 model next.
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I tried on the new Vans Zahba's today and can confirm the toe box is pretty narrow. I compared it to what im currently skating in, NB 1010, and it was pretty obvious the 1010's are better quality/better fit. Wanted to try something new but oh well lol
Is it as narrow as the Ultrarange skate shoes from years back? If so, fuhhhh, because I just ordered a pair.
As far as Vans, so far, the Crockett Highs, Kyle 1s, and Rowans feel/skate the best for me.
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I tried on the new Vans Zahba's today and can confirm the toe box is pretty narrow. I compared it to what im currently skating in, NB 1010, and it was pretty obvious the 1010's are better quality/better fit. Wanted to try something new but oh well lol
Is it as narrow as the Ultrarange skate shoes from years back? If so, fuhhhh, because I just ordered a pair.
As far as Vans, so far, the Crockett Highs, Kyle 1s, and Rowans feel/skate the best for me.
Haha I've skated in all of those shoes and they fit me fine while the Zahba didn't. If you find a good toe box pic of the Zahba you can really get an idea of how it fits. Very narrow in the toes while increasing in width as it works its way down to mid foot. In other words, a pointy fit. I even tried on a half size bigger just to see and sadly they still didnt fit my feet right and it was obvious not to make the purchase
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Just got a pair of the Zahba’s. And for me, it fits like the AVE — a bit more of a narrow shoe (not Lizzie or Ultrarange Skate narrow) with a more pointy toebox.
Leaving it a bit loose still felt comfortable when walking around and doing some errands like going to the grocery store.
Hopefully I’ll have some time this week to skate them and report more on the cupsole feel and such.
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Just got a pair of the Zahba’s. And for me, it fits like the AVE — a bit more of a narrow shoe (not Lizzie or Ultrarange Skate narrow) with a more pointy toebox.
Leaving it a bit loose still felt comfortable when walking around and doing some errands like going to the grocery store.
Hopefully I’ll have some time this week to skate them and report more on the cupsole feel and such.
Any sessions skating these yet??
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I tried on the new Vans Zahba's today and can confirm the toe box is pretty narrow. I compared it to what im currently skating in, NB 1010, and it was pretty obvious the 1010's are better quality/better fit. Wanted to try something new but oh well lol
Is it as narrow as the Ultrarange skate shoes from years back? If so, fuhhhh, because I just ordered a pair.
As far as Vans, so far, the Crockett Highs, Kyle 1s, and Rowans feel/skate the best for me.
just got a pair of Zahba's delivered and from what I remember from the Ultrarange Pros, they fit very similar. These could definitely could be called Ultrarange Pro 3. I tried both the Ultrarange 1 and 2 when they came out and I didn't like the feel of either and ended up returning them. The Zahba's are just too tight in the toe box for me so they will be going back as well.
I don't remember either of the Ultrarange models being that well received when they came out. Both seem to come and go pretty quickly. Surprised they are revisiting a similar design again.
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It's not the skate-specific models, but Vans has yet another new cushioning system called "VR3" which is supposed to be more environmentally friendly, recycled and bio-based materials etc. Anyway, I bring it up here because they're putting it in a bunch of the classics and it's actually a fully removable insole just like the pop cush. I just got some of the VR3 Authentics and they're built very similar to the skate authentics now, even have a slightly higher foxing tape more reminiscent of the "wrapped" skate models.
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It's not the skate-specific models, but Vans has yet another new cushioning system called "VR3" which is supposed to be more environmentally friendly, recycled and bio-based materials etc. Anyway, I bring it up here because they're putting it in a bunch of the classics and it's actually a fully removable insole just like the pop cush. I just got some of the VR3 Authentics and they're built very similar to the skate authentics now, even have a slightly higher foxing tape more reminiscent of the "wrapped" skate models.
It's the footbed in the Zahba
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN0007QQ_N43_ALT5?wid=500)
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i do believe its in the lizard armadillo as well
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i do believe its in the lizard armadillo as well
Don’t know if this was autocorrect or intentional, but this made me giggle
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Just got a pair of the Zahba’s. And for me, it fits like the AVE — a bit more of a narrow shoe (not Lizzie or Ultrarange Skate narrow) with a more pointy toebox.
Leaving it a bit loose still felt comfortable when walking around and doing some errands like going to the grocery store.
Hopefully I’ll have some time this week to skate them and report more on the cupsole feel and such.
Any sessions skating these yet??
Rain and parenting has limited my skate time, but I got a 15 flat ground session on the driveway.
I like the board feel Vans cupsoles have. And this is no different.
Not a fan of the insole, especially after coming from Popcush, but I usually end up using an after market insole anyway.
Popped a few ollies and pushed around. The narrow toe didn’t fell off in comparison to wider shoes like half cabs and crockett highs. The suede didn’t feel stiff and had good flex when skating basically new out of the box.
I’ll post more as I skate then more.
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FYI Vans is running 30% off online if you sign up for an account on the website. Earlier this week the stores were offering "buy one get one 1/2 off"...not sure how long that deal will go for.
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i feel like a traitor who feels really good. after a lifetime of mostly half cabs a homie hooked it up with some shit from the darkside, some nike blazer mids. and, um i've got a freezer fulla brand new half cabs that are probably never going to get a chance to hurt my feet, hips, or back... fuck i hate to say it but it is true
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FYI Vans is running 30% off online if you sign up for an account on the website. Earlier this week the stores were offering "buy one get one 1/2 off"...not sure how long that deal will go for.
Signed up and got myself another pair of the skate cabs. Fucking perfect shoe, I love authentics but half cabs are really the best skate shoe.
I did however experience some of the outsole/foxing tape separation in the toe of one of the right shoe that I'm currently skating. I filled the gap with shoe goo and it's totally fine. Very small area affected and an easy fix, though a bit disappointing.
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anybody have any info on how these new lowland cupsole things skate? they look immaculate and im very tempted to grab a pair regardless of whether or not they skate semi decent
(https://i.ibb.co/g3FKZ5h/Vans-Lowland-Comfy-Cush-Staple-White-Skate-Shoes-339928-front-US.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g3FKZ5h)post pics (https://imgbb.com/)
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Just got a pair of the Zahba’s. And for me, it fits like the AVE — a bit more of a narrow shoe (not Lizzie or Ultrarange Skate narrow) with a more pointy toebox.
Leaving it a bit loose still felt comfortable when walking around and doing some errands like going to the grocery store.
Hopefully I’ll have some time this week to skate them and report more on the cupsole feel and such.
Any sessions skating these yet??
Rain and parenting has limited my skate time, but I got a 15 flat ground session on the driveway.
I like the board feel Vans cupsoles have. And this is no different.
Not a fan of the insole, especially after coming from Popcush, but I usually end up using an after market insole anyway.
Popped a few ollies and pushed around. The narrow toe didn’t fell off in comparison to wider shoes like half cabs and crockett highs. The suede didn’t feel stiff and had good flex when skating basically new out of the box.
I’ll post more as I skate then more.
Thanks for the report back, appreciate it.
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anybody have any info on how these new lowland cupsole things skate? they look immaculate and im very tempted to grab a pair regardless of whether or not they skate semi decent
(https://i.ibb.co/g3FKZ5h/Vans-Lowland-Comfy-Cush-Staple-White-Skate-Shoes-339928-front-US.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g3FKZ5h)post pics (https://imgbb.com/)
They all have “CC” in the name which is Vans’ “Comfy Cush”
Comfy Cush is a full foam mid and outsole which is very light and squishy and would be eaten alive by grip tape extremely quickly.
Unless they make one out of more traditional materials, I think these are a no-go for skating.
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Has anyone heard any rumors of the Low Cab coming back? Half Cab is obviously selling stronger than ever. I only like low top shoes. A Low Cab would be rad. Seems like a good time to put something out like that
The Scott Kane ones
That was a long time ago though. I’m wondering about one coming out in the future, or maybe rumors of it coming back?
I’m guessing not because I don’t see anyone talking about it….
Isn't the rowan basically a low cab?
Funny you say that.
Yes they do look very similar, but the Rowan is still a bit taller, almost like a Half Cab but maybe in between.
The vintage pair of Lo Cab shoes I have are falling apart, sole coming away from the upper, which often happens in old shoes, but to put them side by side with the pair of Rowans I have, they do have a lot in common.
Closest things to a 1/2 cab without being a color way; Rowan’s incorporate more tech as well.
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My 6 year old son managed to pick these out for me for my bday (obviously with my wive's help buying, but she never would have found these herself): https://shop.ccs.com/products/vans-ave-shoes-teal Props little guy-- I've been skating Adidas Superstars and New Balance 440s the most recently but grew up skating van's cupsole so curious how these go and will report in when I skate them
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My 6 year old son managed to pick these out for me for my bday (obviously with my wive's help buying, but she never would have found these herself): https://shop.ccs.com/products/vans-ave-shoes-teal (https://shop.ccs.com/products/vans-ave-shoes-teal) Props little guy-- I've been skating Adidas Superstars and New Balance 440s the most recently but grew up skating van's cupsole so curious how these go and will report in when I skate them
Keen to hear, they look comfy and flexi for a cupsole. Have always been tempted to try them.
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anybody have any info on how these new lowland cupsole things skate? they look immaculate and im very tempted to grab a pair regardless of whether or not they skate semi decent
(https://i.ibb.co/g3FKZ5h/Vans-Lowland-Comfy-Cush-Staple-White-Skate-Shoes-339928-front-US.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g3FKZ5h)post pics (https://imgbb.com/)
They all have “CC” in the name which is Vans’ “Comfy Cush”
Comfy Cush is a full foam mid and outsole which is very light and squishy and would be eaten alive by grip tape extremely quickly.
Unless they make one out of more traditional materials, I think these are a no-go for skating.
I worked at a vans retail store & got blessed with an employee free shoe & had to get these, skated them & they were totally dusted in about 3 weeks even after I superglued & shoe goo’d the ever long shit out of them. But while I did skate them they were honestly the best, super super light & also crazy comfy, it was also probably because of the foam but my kicklips felt really really nice with these straight out of the box. Honestly though, for the money (120 cad reg price) it’s not worth it for how long they last, even on sale I wouldn’t even recommend, but if they make this shoe into a skate they’ll have all my money.
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My 6 year old son managed to pick these out for me for my bday (obviously with my wive's help buying, but she never would have found these herself): https://shop.ccs.com/products/vans-ave-shoes-teal (https://shop.ccs.com/products/vans-ave-shoes-teal) Props little guy-- I've been skating Adidas Superstars and New Balance 440s the most recently but grew up skating van's cupsole so curious how these go and will report in when I skate them
My favorite skateboarding shoe. They are perfect if you like a cupsole and some board feel. Without trying to brag, I think that they are best for people with fairly strong feet.
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Village Psychic just did an interview with Claude Leco who designed the Zahba. Gives some cool insight to what goes into designing a shoe. Pretty good read, check it out:
http://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/claude-leco-zahba (http://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/claude-leco-zahba)
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/52c75691e4b083e90ebff495/d847051f-fc9d-4382-a389-e27f0bfc37ff/SP23_Skate_Zahba_VN0007QQBF0_ZionWright_BrnMult_Product_studio_1899+%281%29.jpg?format=2500w)
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Village Psychic just did an interview with Claude Leco who designed the Zahba. Gives some cool insight to what goes into designing a shoe. Pretty good read, check it out:
http://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/claude-leco-zahba (http://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/claude-leco-zahba)
(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/52c75691e4b083e90ebff495/d847051f-fc9d-4382-a389-e27f0bfc37ff/SP23_Skate_Zahba_VN0007QQBF0_ZionWright_BrnMult_Product_studio_1899+%281%29.jpg?format=2500w)
I’m excited to see these other new models. Saw Rowan skating what looked like a cupsole that people were asking about on IG.
I Picked up a pair of the Zahbas After TastyBurrito said it fits like the AVE which I’ve been primarily skating, but god damn that shoe is not warm enough in Midwestern early spring and late fall sessions. Digging the Zahbas.
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Big fan of the Skate Sk8 Lows, had 3 pairs and thought I’d get a pair of Grosso Skate SK8 Mids (the black and white ones with that emo leather) as I had SK8 Mid Pros before and loved them too. Walked in said Grosso Skate SK8 Mids for 3 days and they still feel pretty stiff and not as comfy as they should be. Have any of you had these? How did they break in? Thanks.
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just picked up my second pair of Zabha's. I Love this shoe. Cant wait for the new Rowans since its basically the same sole, just beefed up a bit.
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Big fan of the Skate Sk8 Lows, had 3 pairs and thought I’d get a pair of Grosso Skate SK8 Mids (the black and white ones with that emo leather) as I had SK8 Mid Pros before and loved them too. Walked in said Grosso Skate SK8 Mids for 3 days and they still feel pretty stiff and not as comfy as they should be. Have any of you had these? How did they break in? Thanks.
Swap the insole. Those come with Ultracush, which is stiffer in the rear.
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Big fan of the Skate Sk8 Lows, had 3 pairs and thought I’d get a pair of Grosso Skate SK8 Mids (the black and white ones with that emo leather) as I had SK8 Mid Pros before and loved them too. Walked in said Grosso Skate SK8 Mids for 3 days and they still feel pretty stiff and not as comfy as they should be. Have any of you had these? How did they break in? Thanks.
Swap the insole. Those come with Ultracush, which is stiffer in the rear.
Thanks. I did that straight away as I have to wear orthotic insoles.
It’s the padding around the ankle and the heel that bothers me, it feels really stiff.
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Did anyone manage to snag a screenshot of the new AVE Pro Ave teased on his insta story the other day? Looked very similar to the latest AVE's but with extended suede where the mesh was and raised suede eyelet strips.
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(https://i.ibb.co/vQfNCNg/IMG-2281.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vQfNCNg)
These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??
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(https://i.ibb.co/vQfNCNg/IMG-2281.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vQfNCNg)
These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??
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I lied.
Not the new Rowan.
I don't know what it is.
I think this is the new Rowan.
(https://i.ibb.co/kM4Zz36/Screen-Shot-2023-04-14-at-2-49-24-pm.png)
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I have to try some Aves. All the vans I’ve skated are Vulc and hurt my feet. I’m STILL breaking in a two year old pair of Authentics. No padding anywhere, just thick canvas and a rubber toe cap that’s about as comfortable as a steel toe. It’s like wearing boxes on my feet. Boxes that hate me.
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(https://i.ibb.co/vQfNCNg/IMG-2281.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vQfNCNg)
These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??
These are midtop versions of the Zahbas
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(https://i.ibb.co/vQfNCNg/IMG-2281.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vQfNCNg)
These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??
These are midtop versions of the Zahbas
Yeah, they’ll be around in the fall/holiday
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I have to try some Aves. All the vans I’ve skated are Vulc and hurt my feet. I’m STILL breaking in a two year old pair of Authentics. No padding anywhere, just thick canvas and a rubber toe cap that’s about as comfortable as a steel toe. It’s like wearing boxes on my feet. Boxes that hate me.
I think I'm in the minority, but I did not enjoy skating the Aves. I don't have particularly wide feet but for some reason the toe box felt restricting and super stiff. I got the original white ones and I like the look of them so I kept them a chillers, but I still don't find them terribly comfortable.
As Manysnakes above said, perhaps it is a foot strength thing as well. I have weak arches and sketchy ankles so maybe my feet just couldn't hang. I didn't feel secure in them while popping and every trick felt like a hail mary. My arches would get sore during the session as well.
I feel more comfortable in a thinner vulc shoe.
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I have to try some Aves. All the vans I’ve skated are Vulc and hurt my feet. I’m STILL breaking in a two year old pair of Authentics. No padding anywhere, just thick canvas and a rubber toe cap that’s about as comfortable as a steel toe. It’s like wearing boxes on my feet. Boxes that hate me.
I think I'm in the minority, but I did not enjoy skating the Aves. I don't have particularly wide feet but for some reason the toe box felt restricting and super stiff. I got the original white ones and I like the look of them so I kept them a chillers, but I still don't find them terribly comfortable.
As Manysnakes above said, perhaps it is a foot strength thing as well. I have weak arches and sketchy ankles so maybe my feet just couldn't hang. I didn't feel secure in them while popping and every trick felt like a hail mary. My arches would get sore during the session as well.
I feel more comfortable in a thinner vulc shoe.
I have wide-ish feet and perfect arches. The authentics pinch my pinky toes really bad. Still not as bad as a lot of those Nikes made for people with banana feet
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(https://i.ibb.co/vQfNCNg/IMG-2281.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vQfNCNg)
These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??
These are midtop versions of the Zahbas
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I have to try some Aves. All the vans I’ve skated are Vulc and hurt my feet. I’m STILL breaking in a two year old pair of Authentics. No padding anywhere, just thick canvas and a rubber toe cap that’s about as comfortable as a steel toe. It’s like wearing boxes on my feet. Boxes that hate me.
I think I'm in the minority, but I did not enjoy skating the Aves. I don't have particularly wide feet but for some reason the toe box felt restricting and super stiff. I got the original white ones and I like the look of them so I kept them a chillers, but I still don't find them terribly comfortable.
As Manysnakes above said, perhaps it is a foot strength thing as well. I have weak arches and sketchy ankles so maybe my feet just couldn't hang. I didn't feel secure in them while popping and every trick felt like a hail mary. My arches would get sore during the session as well.
I feel more comfortable in a thinner vulc shoe.
I have wide-ish feet and perfect arches. The authentics pinch my pinky toes really bad. Still not as bad as a lot of those Nikes made for people with banana feet
“Banana feet” had me dead! At least now I know why Nike fits me so well.
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The Zahbas were clearly Reynolds influenced or maybe his shoe that they repurposed especially those mids
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The Zahbas were clearly Reynolds influenced or maybe his shoe that they repurposed especially those mids
I like this idea because I still can't believe Reynolds didn't get a signature shoe in his 3.5 years with Vans (that went a lot quicker than I realize).
Also those Zahba Mids look great. If they have a black/gum colorway lined up for that initial release, I'll have money for it.
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How much more durable in the sole is the vans skate line than the regular line?
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These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??
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I lied.
Not the new Rowan.
I don't know what it is.
I think this is the new Rowan.
(https://i.ibb.co/kM4Zz36/Screen-Shot-2023-04-14-at-2-49-24-pm.png)
I'd fuck with a rowan wanna-be-dunk (if waffle/cup)
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These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??
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I lied.
Not the new Rowan.
I don't know what it is.
I think this is the new Rowan.
(https://i.ibb.co/kM4Zz36/Screen-Shot-2023-04-14-at-2-49-24-pm.png)
I'd fuck with a rowan wanna-be-dunk (if waffle/cup)
This sole most def looks like a cupsole. I’m gonna try it. I legit liked his wanna-be-Half Cab model.
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How much more durable in the sole is the vans skate line than the regular line?
the sole is good and easily outlasts the upper, i'd say it lasts twice as long compared to the regular models, so about 6-8 weeks in my experience
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How much more durable in the sole is the vans skate line than the regular line?
Night and day difference. I wore though some regular Half Cabs in a session or two.
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How much more durable in the sole is the vans skate line than the regular line?
the sole is good and easily outlasts the upper, i'd say it lasts twice as long compared to the regular models, so about 6-8 weeks in my experience
Definitely better than the regulars which are not durable shoes in any way, but a pair of skate line last me a month tops before something gives way. Usually the flick area starts to separate the upper from sole
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Zahba mid up on skate deluxe -
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/vans-zahba-mid-shoes-grey-multi_p163200
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Zahba mid up on skate deluxe -
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/vans-zahba-mid-shoes-grey-multi_p163200
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/apcfOgODT7h5LmZmDjzghajhOR8=/fit-in/1500x1749/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/163200-0-Vans-ZahbaMid.jpg)
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Didn’t the Zahba have a one piece toe cap?
I wanted like this more than I actually do.
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Didn’t the Zahba have a one piece toe cap?
I wanted like this more than I actually do.
This looks like a whole new shoe compared to the low top version
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These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??
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I lied.
Not the new Rowan.
I don't know what it is.
I think this is the new Rowan.
(https://i.ibb.co/kM4Zz36/Screen-Shot-2023-04-14-at-2-49-24-pm.png)
I'd fuck with a rowan wanna-be-dunk (if waffle/cup)
I don’t get why every cupsole shoe is compared to a dunk? Like these look nothing like a dunk? These look like some old hassan or cardiels from the early 00’s
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These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??
edit:
I lied.
Not the new Rowan.
I don't know what it is.
I think this is the new Rowan.
(https://i.ibb.co/kM4Zz36/Screen-Shot-2023-04-14-at-2-49-24-pm.png)
I'd fuck with a rowan wanna-be-dunk (if waffle/cup)
the DUNK KILLER
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It looks a little better in this colourway. I might be able to talk myself into the Zahba mid whenever we get a mostly white or black colourway. It's not a cupsole Half Cab, but I feel like it's the closest thing they're going to give us.
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/jtAUfOqKv8eqbTPCsh9-gu-4p7I=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/163088-0-Vans-ZahbaMid.jpg)
Skatedeluxe also has some colourways I hadn't seen of the regular Zahba. The ones with the gum soles are both pretty inoffensive.
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/8MGMWn108grGFY3o612jX1a0Csc=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/163080-0-Vans-Zahba.jpg)
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/Rpa8uLmPER_MtElT3TyNwUfprAQ=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/161691-0-Vans-Zahba.jpg)
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/S9MOYhjxFcukCqEG7FMclJwU2D8=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/163081-0-Vans-Zahba.jpg)
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Man the more I look at it. It looks like a 92 half cab cup. But not having to pay cab royalties
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It looks a little better in this colourway. I might be able to talk myself into the Zahba mid whenever we get a mostly white or black colourway. It's not a cupsole Half Cab, but I feel like it's the closest thing they're going to give us.
Skatedeluxe also has some colourways I hadn't seen of the regular Zahba. The ones with the gum soles are both pretty inoffensive.
Agreed.
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Man the more I look at it. It looks like a 92 half cab cup. But not having to pay cab royalties
remove the stripe and that dumb checkerboard tag and they start looking real good
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Man the more I look at it. It looks like a 92 half cab cup. But not having to pay cab royalties
remove the stripe and that dumb checkerboard tag and they start looking real good
the checkerboard reminds me of purina dog chow.
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Yeah those lows aren’t bad at all. I like em in the right colorway. Had the crockett 2 lows and they kind of have a similar feel
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Yeah those lows aren’t bad at all. I like em in the right colorway. Had the crockett 2 lows and they kind of have a similar feel
My two favorite colors so far are the Vans Family color (white/grey) and the Zion color.
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These look interesting.
Anybody know what they are??
edit:
I lied.
Not the new Rowan.
I don't know what it is.
I think this is the new Rowan.
(https://i.ibb.co/kM4Zz36/Screen-Shot-2023-04-14-at-2-49-24-pm.png)
I'd fuck with a rowan wanna-be-dunk (if waffle/cup)
looks more like it could be influenced by an af1
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It looks a little better in this colourway. I might be able to talk myself into the Zahba mid whenever we get a mostly white or black colourway. It's not a cupsole Half Cab, but I feel like it's the closest thing they're going to give us.
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/jtAUfOqKv8eqbTPCsh9-gu-4p7I=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/163088-0-Vans-ZahbaMid.jpg)
Skatedeluxe also has some colourways I hadn't seen of the regular Zahba. The ones with the gum soles are both pretty inoffensive.
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/8MGMWn108grGFY3o612jX1a0Csc=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/163080-0-Vans-Zahba.jpg)
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/Rpa8uLmPER_MtElT3TyNwUfprAQ=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/161691-0-Vans-Zahba.jpg)
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/S9MOYhjxFcukCqEG7FMclJwU2D8=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/163081-0-Vans-Zahba.jpg)
Am I the only one that thinks that shouldn't be called a zahba mid? extra panels a full toe cap it not the same shoe with extra height. makes no sense im sorry but cool idea
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Doesn’t make sense. Agree. The eyelet panel is totally different as well. Heel panel way different.. ok the midsole and outsole is the same but uppers are totally different…
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Doesn’t make sense. Agree. The eyelet panel is totally different as well. Heel panel way different.. ok the midsole and outsole is the same but uppers are totally different…
Idk, they look like pretty similar to me. It's the same situation as the Tyshawn Mid and the Tyshawn Low, but reversed for the Zahba. Should the Tyshawn Low not be called Tyshawns because they added a toe panel and cut the collar/rear panels differently? Or does that example count as being far closer to the original than this case with the Zahba? Or how about the Louie Mid? Another example there. The Marana Mid is one of the few mids that is literally the Marana, just taller. That, Dunks, plus 112 Mid Pro and Full Cab from Vans.
Personally, I enjoy when companies make a "low" "mid" or "high" version of an existing model and tweak it slightly with the new height version. Vans still could have left it with no toe cap and it would be closer to a true Mid version, though
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Tyshawn and LL have shared elements. The uppers of these vans is completely different. Even detailing like the perforated toe on the low they didn’t carry over. Literally nothing shared.
Overall toecap silhouette I could see, but even that is a different size, overlapping panels versus one.. vans swoosh hits in a diff spot.
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Tyshawn and LL have shared elements. The uppers of these vans is completely different. Even detailing like the perforated toe on the low they didn’t carry over. Literally nothing shared.
Overall toecap silhouette I could see, but even that is a different size, overlapping panels versus one.. vans swoosh hits in a diff spot.
Respectfully, I disagree, since the LL and LL Mid is a similar scenario to the Zahba and Zahba mid. When I first saw the leaked photos of the Zahba Mid it looked like a Zahba Mid with a toe cap to me and not like an entirely different shoe. I understand not everyone may see it that way, but the similarities are greater than differences
There are numerous similarities from my view: the sole (new and specific to Zahba only currently), lacing panel, shape of the panel adjacent to the stripe towards the "ollie" area (they both make that curvy wave, the stripe itself, the tongue looks identical, the heel quarter panel looks similar but slightly larger since it's for mid height. They didn't carry over toe perforations since they added a toe panel instead. That's the only real visible difference to the average person, imo
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Those grey zahba mids look atrocious compared to the photo of the green ones that was floating around earlier
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Those grey zahba mids look atrocious compared to the photo of the green ones that was floating around earlier
The green ones are a Beatrice colorway coming soon
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So weird to have the Low Zahba and then what looks like a Rowan cupsole that he’s been skating. Def like the Rowan style more, Zahba skates good though imo
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im feeling the knu schools, i might grab a pair. does anybody know if it has inner tongue straps?
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im feeling the knu schools, i might grab a pair. does anybody know if it has inner tongue straps?
I really want a pair on a regular skate classic or whatever it's called sole
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Those grey zahba mids look atrocious compared to the photo of the green ones that was floating around earlier
The green ones are a Beatrice colorway coming soon
She’s got more colorways than tricks in her repertoire
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Those grey zahba mids look atrocious compared to the photo of the green ones that was floating around earlier
The green ones are a Beatrice colorway coming soon
She’s got more colorways than tricks in her repertoire
This made me laugh harder than it should have hahah
Props for her on securing that with Vans, tho
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Vans, please just do it.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vA8rYgWIkxcL8Bqyuh3--Xyho3JKDSorvDTsB3dqkqFHjVeRSJ8S-ipPbN532hf0fKqDpgCPcebuvehIFoe3XamIDsqESySdrACwGud8bA)
(https://cdn.fs.grailed.com/api/file/A6EG5qdDSTWJILJYaUOD)
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b3/55/16/b3551681edfb34f01c758eccd13772ad--mike-carroll-carroll-oconnor.jpg)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0371/5685/products/vintage_vans_style___mike_carroll_signature_black_nubuck_made_in_usa_96_used_8.5_c_1024x1024.JPG?v=1571438684)
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Those grey zahba mids look atrocious compared to the photo of the green ones that was floating around earlier
The green ones are a Beatrice colorway coming soon
She’s got more colorways than tricks in her repertoire
Damnnnn LMAO
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Vans, please just do it.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vA8rYgWIkxcL8Bqyuh3--Xyho3JKDSorvDTsB3dqkqFHjVeRSJ8S-ipPbN532hf0fKqDpgCPcebuvehIFoe3XamIDsqESySdrACwGud8bA)
(https://cdn.fs.grailed.com/api/file/A6EG5qdDSTWJILJYaUOD)
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b3/55/16/b3551681edfb34f01c758eccd13772ad--mike-carroll-carroll-oconnor.jpg)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0371/5685/products/vintage_vans_style___mike_carroll_signature_black_nubuck_made_in_usa_96_used_8.5_c_1024x1024.JPG?v=1571438684)
This would definitely revamp their sales
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it looks like vans vault line is gone/discontinued. Looks like OTW coming back.
Vans vault IG is gone
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it looks like vans vault line is gone/discontinued. Looks like OTW coming back.
Vans vault IG is gone
From what I understand, and I don't understand much in this regard, the Vault line is the only one where the original (i.e. not "Skate") half cab was still being released in different colourways..? So if the Vault line is gone, hopefully that doesn't mean the original half cab is going out of production, or being phased out even further.
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Vans, please just do it.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vA8rYgWIkxcL8Bqyuh3--Xyho3JKDSorvDTsB3dqkqFHjVeRSJ8S-ipPbN532hf0fKqDpgCPcebuvehIFoe3XamIDsqESySdrACwGud8bA)
(https://cdn.fs.grailed.com/api/file/A6EG5qdDSTWJILJYaUOD)
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b3/55/16/b3551681edfb34f01c758eccd13772ad--mike-carroll-carroll-oconnor.jpg)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0371/5685/products/vintage_vans_style___mike_carroll_signature_black_nubuck_made_in_usa_96_used_8.5_c_1024x1024.JPG?v=1571438684)
Whatever material they put on the inside of the 96s kinda ruined the shoe for me. I was expecting canvas like a Half Cab in the heel collar area and instead there's something similar to the nubuck on the actual shoe. It's like they're designed to heel slip.
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Anyone know if they’re making the skate mid skool 37s still or again? Kinda wanting a pair.
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(https://i.ibb.co/RjYhMG0/Screenshot-20230618-110006-Instagram-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RjYhMG0)
New AVE shoe?
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New AVE shoe?
Yes but not sure if it is the final production model or not. The team riders wear tested that shoe this past Winter. It is a big improvement over the current AVE shoe IMO.
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It looks pretty cool. Looking forward to checking it out. Fingers crossed for more footage too. It never gets old
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New AVE shoe?
Yes but not sure if it is the final production model or not. The team riders wear tested that shoe this past Winter. It is a big improvement over the current AVE shoe IMO.
Can you explain what's different cuz it looks like the same shoe?
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New AVE shoe?
Yes but not sure if it is the final production model or not. The team riders wear tested that shoe this past Winter. It is a big improvement over the current AVE shoe IMO.
Can you explain what's different cuz it looks like the same shoe?
You can definitely see the DNA from the current shoe but the new one is quite a bit different. A new Ultimate Waffle sole. The upper is a knit/sock like upper around the ankles. The heel is reinforced for stability. The toe panel is beefed up to prevent the day one ollie holes that tend to happen with the current version.
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"An amalgamation of the Half Cab and Mike Carrol’s MC 96."
(https://www.highsnobiety.com/static-assets/thumbor/9C1u6qS73-S0wV4ROqYEZGK6pZI=/960x769/www.highsnobiety.com/static-assets/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/19001826/palace-vans-2023-5.jpg)
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"An amalgamation of the Half Cab and Mike Carrol’s MC 96."
(https://www.highsnobiety.com/static-assets/thumbor/9C1u6qS73-S0wV4ROqYEZGK6pZI=/960x769/www.highsnobiety.com/static-assets/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/19001826/palace-vans-2023-5.jpg)
Ok now this is epic.
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(https://hypebeast.com/image/2023/06/palace-vans-low-release-date-4.jpg)
(https://hypebeast.com/image/2023/06/palace-vans-low-release-date-6.jpg)
Liking em
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(https://hypebeast.com/image/2023/06/palace-vans-low-release-date-4.jpg)
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Liking em
Same.
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Vans, please just do it.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/vA8rYgWIkxcL8Bqyuh3--Xyho3JKDSorvDTsB3dqkqFHjVeRSJ8S-ipPbN532hf0fKqDpgCPcebuvehIFoe3XamIDsqESySdrACwGud8bA)
(https://cdn.fs.grailed.com/api/file/A6EG5qdDSTWJILJYaUOD)
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b3/55/16/b3551681edfb34f01c758eccd13772ad--mike-carroll-carroll-oconnor.jpg)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0371/5685/products/vintage_vans_style___mike_carroll_signature_black_nubuck_made_in_usa_96_used_8.5_c_1024x1024.JPG?v=1571438684)
Yea this made the shoe unwearable for me. Feels like I would get blisters if I skated in them
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it looks like vans vault line is gone/discontinued. Looks like OTW coming back.
Vans vault IG is gone
From what I understand, and I don't understand much in this regard, the Vault line is the only one where the original (i.e. not "Skate") half cab was still being released in different colourways..? So if the Vault line is gone, hopefully that doesn't mean the original half cab is going out of production, or being phased out even further.
dumbest move of 2023. granted lots of vaults ended up on clearance racks at shoe shops but it was light years better than any of the OTW crap.
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it looks like vans vault line is gone/discontinued. Looks like OTW coming back.
Vans vault IG is gone
From what I understand, and I don't understand much in this regard, the Vault line is the only one where the original (i.e. not "Skate") half cab was still being released in different colourways..? So if the Vault line is gone, hopefully that doesn't mean the original half cab is going out of production, or being phased out even further.
dumbest move of 2023. granted lots of vaults ended up on clearance racks at shoe shops but it was light years better than any of the OTW crap.
To be fair the reason vault shoes ended up on clearance was because they put out such god awful collabs and models. I remember that chukka with the coffin print saying the world was dead or something absurd like that. What good collabs they did have were always overpriced and not very comfortable.
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Liking em
Same.
Are these going to be impossible to get?
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Liking em
Same.
Are these going to be impossible to get?
Palace collab? Yes. Yes it will be impossible to get.
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New AVE shoe?
Yes but not sure if it is the final production model or not. The team riders wear tested that shoe this past Winter. It is a big improvement over the current AVE shoe IMO.
Can you explain what's different cuz it looks like the same shoe?
You can definitely see the DNA from the current shoe but the new one is quite a bit different. A new Ultimate Waffle sole. The upper is a knit/sock like upper around the ankles. The heel is reinforced for stability. The toe panel is beefed up to prevent the day one ollie holes that tend to happen with the current version.
So it sounds more like bug fixes for an overpriced shoe that isn't durable and they will surely charge more for it.
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Liking em
Same.
Are these going to be impossible to get?
Palace collab? Yes. Yes it will be impossible to get.
Didn’t know if that had died down
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Liking em
Same.
Are these going to be impossible to get?
Palace collab? Yes. Yes it will be impossible to get.
Didn’t know if that had died down
Nah. Resellers will always buy everything up, even if it make $7 in profit.
Which is why I always hope resellers’ families are raped and set on fire.
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If you factor in the time they spend having to buy and ship the shoes in terms of hourly wages they're likely losing money.
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New AVE shoe?
Yes but not sure if it is the final production model or not. The team riders wear tested that shoe this past Winter. It is a big improvement over the current AVE shoe IMO.
Oh damn. I love the AVE pro so this gets me stoked.
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I skate vans slip ons and they are shit, but it's what feels the best, and I hate myself for accepting this reality.
I'm too old, I can't change now.
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Liking em
Same.
Are these going to be impossible to get?
Palace collab? Yes. Yes it will be impossible to get.
Didn’t know if that had died down
Nah. Resellers will always buy everything up, even if it make $7 in profit.
Which is why I always hope resellers’ families are raped and set on fire.
big fan of your posts and set ups. but was raped really the right word here? Overly aggressive to wish death on others families.
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If you factor in the time they spend having to buy and ship the shoes in terms of hourly wages they're likely losing money.
Depends on how many big ticket shoe flips they do. If they were smart, they'd ship all the purchased shoes from their web store thing in one session over a couple hours. Instead of doing one or two each day, like how you're loosely implying they do it.
I bet many group their sales/ships/purchases into as few sessions as possible. At least the experienced ones should if they're doing it as their primary income. If you do it that way, its highly unlikely likely they're losing money
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Liking em
Same.
Are these going to be impossible to get?
Palace collab? Yes. Yes it will be impossible to get.
Didn’t know if that had died down
Maybe the only change Id make is to stitch the tag stuff on or not have it be contrast colored. It feels a little disproportionately big on a low
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New AVE shoe?
Yes but not sure if it is the final production model or not. The team riders wear tested that shoe this past Winter. It is a big improvement over the current AVE shoe IMO.
Oh damn. I love the AVE pro so this gets me stoked.
Looking back at this, are you sure it’s new? I zoomed in and it looks like the AVE Pro that is out now. Is the new version just a slight revamp?
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Very different. the pair he is wearing has heel pull tabs. AVE pro do not.
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Very different. the pair he is wearing has heel pull tabs. AVE pro do not.
That pull tab helps a lot when putting the shoe on as the collar is similar to a Prime Knit Adidas shoe.
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Very different. the pair he is wearing has heel pull tabs. AVE pro do not.
That pull tab helps a lot when putting the shoe on as the collar is similar to a Prime Knit Adidas shoe.
yes! And imo more blatantly the numeric 288s type collar.
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Any word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.
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Any word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.
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Any word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.
I feel like the Chima 2 was a sleeper hit with the same set that liked the Janoski. Maybe most of the shoes sold didn't get skated much or at all but I saw them on a lot of feet when they more current. I could see Vans giving him another shoe just based off of sales and name recognition alone but I think it's kind of a new movement over there so maybe not.
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Any word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.
Not sure if I would even know how to do screenshot on a story. Ya, at this point I would be surprised if he got another model since he hasn't had a new color released in a while. There usually seems to be some overlap between the current model and the new one when it gets released. Though, I feel like AVE went a few years without his own because the AVE Pro came out.
Maybe what I saw was just a Sk8-Low or and Old Skool.
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New AVE shoe?
Yes but not sure if it is the final production model or not. The team riders wear tested that shoe this past Winter. It is a big improvement over the current AVE shoe IMO.
Can you explain what's different cuz it looks like the same shoe?
You can definitely see the DNA from the current shoe but the new one is quite a bit different. A new Ultimate Waffle sole. The upper is a knit/sock like upper around the ankles. The heel is reinforced for stability. The toe panel is beefed up to prevent the day one ollie holes that tend to happen with the current version.
I hope so. Because putting glue and goop on the brand new shoe sucks.
Then
The Mesh crumbed where the glue was too thin and I had to rebuild that stupid thing with tape on the inside and double down on goop all the way to the laces.
I'm fucking bummed. I just wanted the sick ass clear soles. The shoe fuckin skates too.
I'm a fucking street ass mother fuckin dude. I need the shoe to last at least a month.
Is the nyjah made of the same stuff?
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Yeah I can see it. They fixed it.
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Any Euro TMs or the like got a season/year for the new AVE shoe drop?
Also WTF with Vault getting dropped and now it’s OTW? Didn’t they have an OTW line that bombed once already??
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Any word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.
Hopefully, his shoe was ubershit in every possible level.
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Any word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.
Wasn’t the rumor that Berle’s first shoe wasn’t his choice but Vans testing out new tech and his second would be his own design?
He is getting colorways.
But I rather have Chima get a new shoe.
I weirdly saw his first shoe frequently with non-skaters.
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Very different. the pair he is wearing has heel pull tabs. AVE pro do not.
That pull tab helps a lot when putting the shoe on as the collar is similar to a Prime Knit Adidas shoe.
Nah, not quite like that.
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Any word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.
Wasn’t the rumor that Berle’s first shoe wasn’t his choice but Vans testing out new tech and his second would be his own design?
He is getting colorways.
But I rather have Chima get a new shoe.
I weirdly saw his first shoe frequently with non-skaters.
No I heard Elijah was just lazy with input
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Any word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.
Wasn’t the rumor that Berle’s first shoe wasn’t his choice but Vans testing out new tech and his second would be his own design?
He is getting colorways.
But I rather have Chima get a new shoe.
I weirdly saw his first shoe frequently with non-skaters.
No I heard Elijah was just lazy with input
I heard he was pushed to go with the new wafflecup at the time.
For me, it kinda makes sense since he mostly skates vulc shoes.
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Any word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.
Wasn’t the rumor that Berle’s first shoe wasn’t his choice but Vans testing out new tech and his second would be his own design?
He is getting colorways.
But I rather have Chima get a new shoe.
I weirdly saw his first shoe frequently with non-skaters.
No I heard Elijah was just lazy with input
I heard he was pushed to go with the new wafflecup at the time.
For me, it kinda makes sense since he mostly skates vulc shoes.
And that dumb not removable insole. Ew.
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Any word of a new Chima model? In one of his IG stories last week it looked like he was wearing a Sk8-Low, the toe looked similar, but the stripe went further towards the back and there appeared to be a notch on the heel like the Chima 2, so basically it looked like a Sk8-Lo/Chima 2 mashed together.
Did you get a screenshot? Pretty sure Chima is done with pro models like Berle . They pulled his model without a new one and he doesn’t even get colorways.
Wasn’t the rumor that Berle’s first shoe wasn’t his choice but Vans testing out new tech and his second would be his own design?
He is getting colorways.
But I rather have Chima get a new shoe.
I weirdly saw his first shoe frequently with non-skaters.
I can definitely see non-skaters wearing Chima 1s. They were a pretty simple design that didn't overly look like a skate shoe. That was pretty much me. I stopped skating around 96-97, but never stopped following it. I mainly wore classic Eras and Old Skools for years, but then I saw that they had Pro versions of these around 2010, that's all I started wearing. Chima 1s caught my eye because in certain colors, they looked like a "nicer" sneaker. I had a wedding to go to and I will do anything to avoid wearing dress shoes so I grabbed a pair in brown and they looked decent with a suite. I did finally get back on a board about 5 years ago and had a pair of Chima 2s. I like them as a casual sneaker, but I didn't like skating in them. I didn't think they held up well at all.
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If you factor in the time they spend having to buy and ship the shoes in terms of hourly wages they're likely losing money.
My friend introduced me to the term "bricking" in the shoe hustle game, which is when you buy an expensive shoe and make like $20 profit selling it after everything is said and done. I guess the high volume sellers take the risk because for every $20 shoe, there are some Travis Scott Dunks which you can sell for the price of a small car.
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Any Euro TMs or the like got a season/year for the new AVE shoe drop?
Also WTF with Vault getting dropped and now it’s OTW? Didn’t they have an OTW line that bombed once already??
I wonder if OTW is supposed to compete more with brands like Hoka. Here’s an article about how Vans needs to try new styles to deal with the new trends towards larger footwear: https://archive.is/PWHiX
Vans Vault wasn’t the line to fix that issue.
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Shot in the dark but does anyone know how much the Palace Carroll-ero pros are gonna go for?
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Shot in the dark but does anyone know how much the Palace Carroll-ero pros are gonna go for?
It’s Palace and a custom model. I’m gonna guess at least $100 minimum.
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Shot in the dark but does anyone know how much the Palace Carroll-ero pros are gonna go for?
It’s Palace and a custom model. I’m gonna guess at least $100 minimum.
They’re going for €100. So 108 and some change in American currency.
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If you factor in the time they spend having to buy and ship the shoes in terms of hourly wages they're likely losing money.
My friend introduced me to the term "bricking" in the shoe hustle game, which is when you buy an expensive shoe and make like $20 profit selling it after everything is said and done. I guess the high volume sellers take the risk because for every $20 shoe, there are some Travis Scott Dunks which you can sell for the price of a small car.
there are much worse outcomes than a $20 profit, stockx has an "under retail" filter, meaning a lot of resellers are losing money trying to flip shoes
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If you factor in the time they spend having to buy and ship the shoes in terms of hourly wages they're likely losing money.
My friend introduced me to the term "bricking" in the shoe hustle game, which is when you buy an expensive shoe and make like $20 profit selling it after everything is said and done. I guess the high volume sellers take the risk because for every $20 shoe, there are some Travis Scott Dunks which you can sell for the price of a small car.
High volume sellers like people who can get full size runs on shoes turn a better profit but usually need to find places/people that will buy in bulk. Most “resellers” are people who buy one pair and hopes they can buy a car with the profits. When in reality, even they’re not getting the really valuable pairs.
So most people are bricking sales. Making $8 profit (after StockX, Grailed, etc) take their cut. And buyers end up paying more in shipping than resellers make in profit.
And to my comment earlier about resellers, I’m just fed up with resellers in general. Most recently that my cousin visiting the states from the Philippines wanted to see the Broad museum. I tried to get tickets for a Saturday and resellers bot that site, take all the good times, and then sell them on Craigslist and shit for $50/pop. And they’re FREE tickets. I contacted one and offered $10/ticket and was told they’d rather let the ticket go to waste than not get their asking price. Fucking vultures.
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Ended up passing on the palace vans for $112 shipped directly from Palace site
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If you factor in the time they spend having to buy and ship the shoes in terms of hourly wages they're likely losing money.
My friend introduced me to the term "bricking" in the shoe hustle game, which is when you buy an expensive shoe and make like $20 profit selling it after everything is said and done. I guess the high volume sellers take the risk because for every $20 shoe, there are some Travis Scott Dunks which you can sell for the price of a small car.
High volume sellers like people who can get full size runs on shoes turn a better profit but usually need to find places/people that will buy in bulk. Most “resellers” are people who buy one pair and hopes they can buy a car with the profits. When in reality, even they’re not getting the really valuable pairs.
So most people are bricking sales. Making $8 profit (after StockX, Grailed, etc) take their cut. And buyers end up paying more in shipping than resellers make in profit.
And to my comment earlier about resellers, I’m just fed up with resellers in general. Most recently that my cousin visiting the states from the Philippines wanted to see the Broad museum. I tried to get tickets for a Saturday and resellers bot that site, take all the good times, and then sell them on Craigslist and shit for $50/pop. And they’re FREE tickets. I contacted one and offered $10/ticket and was told they’d rather let the ticket go to waste than not get their asking price. Fucking vultures.
I can't fucking believe it's come to fighting scalping bots for a fucking museum. We live in a straight up dystopia
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If you factor in the time they spend having to buy and ship the shoes in terms of hourly wages they're likely losing money.
My friend introduced me to the term "bricking" in the shoe hustle game, which is when you buy an expensive shoe and make like $20 profit selling it after everything is said and done. I guess the high volume sellers take the risk because for every $20 shoe, there are some Travis Scott Dunks which you can sell for the price of a small car.
High volume sellers like people who can get full size runs on shoes turn a better profit but usually need to find places/people that will buy in bulk. Most “resellers” are people who buy one pair and hopes they can buy a car with the profits. When in reality, even they’re not getting the really valuable pairs.
So most people are bricking sales. Making $8 profit (after StockX, Grailed, etc) take their cut. And buyers end up paying more in shipping than resellers make in profit.
And to my comment earlier about resellers, I’m just fed up with resellers in general. Most recently that my cousin visiting the states from the Philippines wanted to see the Broad museum. I tried to get tickets for a Saturday and resellers bot that site, take all the good times, and then sell them on Craigslist and shit for $50/pop. And they’re FREE tickets. I contacted one and offered $10/ticket and was told they’d rather let the ticket go to waste than not get their asking price. Fucking vultures.
The only growth sector left in the economy is shit like this. It's why insulin costs $400/vial.
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If you factor in the time they spend having to buy and ship the shoes in terms of hourly wages they're likely losing money.
My friend introduced me to the term "bricking" in the shoe hustle game, which is when you buy an expensive shoe and make like $20 profit selling it after everything is said and done. I guess the high volume sellers take the risk because for every $20 shoe, there are some Travis Scott Dunks which you can sell for the price of a small car.
High volume sellers like people who can get full size runs on shoes turn a better profit but usually need to find places/people that will buy in bulk. Most “resellers” are people who buy one pair and hopes they can buy a car with the profits. When in reality, even they’re not getting the really valuable pairs.
So most people are bricking sales. Making $8 profit (after StockX, Grailed, etc) take their cut. And buyers end up paying more in shipping than resellers make in profit.
And to my comment earlier about resellers, I’m just fed up with resellers in general. Most recently that my cousin visiting the states from the Philippines wanted to see the Broad museum. I tried to get tickets for a Saturday and resellers bot that site, take all the good times, and then sell them on Craigslist and shit for $50/pop. And they’re FREE tickets. I contacted one and offered $10/ticket and was told they’d rather let the ticket go to waste than not get their asking price. Fucking vultures.
It’s more than sneakers and shit.
Resellers take advantage of everything.
Like folk that were buying all the toilet paper from Costco during lockdown, walking out the store, then immediately selling them. Also, when there was a national baby formula shortage, they ran to stores, clearing shelves and reselling the stuff. Like, mutherfucker, people needed this stuff to keep babies alive.
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My Skate Half Cabs came in today, and goddamn are they ever tight across the forefoot. Perfect lengthwise, but even with the laces undone as much as possible they still feel way too tight. Huge bummer as they feel and look amazing otherwise, but I guess I’m resigned to only buying shoes that are purposely wide as hell.
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My Skate Half Cabs came in today, and goddamn are they ever tight across the forefoot. Perfect lengthwise, but even with the laces undone as much as possible they still feel way too tight. Huge bummer as they feel and look amazing otherwise, but I guess I’m resigned to only buying shoes that are purposely wide as hell.
use a pair of shoe-trees during a few nights, it could get the job done.
mine needed a week of walking around to break in
saw the AVE2 irl today. The upper looks like a heavy flyknit (sock-like). I hope it's stronger than it looks.
a bunch of reinforced areas too. Price tag hurts (130-140$)
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Bought the Palace X Vans. Most likely gonna be my summer/casual wear shoes since they're not a common silhouette.
Then again, they'll probably end up getting skated at some point.
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New Beatrice shoe coming soon?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/)
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New Beatrice shoe is a color way
Zahba Mid in Olive that you’ve probably been seeing people skate
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New Beatrice shoe is a color way
Zahba Mid in Olive that you’ve probably been seeing people skate
Corey Glick has been skating it during the Ace Tour (via Spanky's IG)
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It's been posted before but
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuRnBxURoux/?igshid=NjZiM2M3MzIxNA==
There's also an ave coming out similar colour (second pic)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuPvAmGpcuA/?img_index=1&igshid=M2M3YTNlMTQ4MA==
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^^ I like those colors. Wish they made the Old Skools in them too.
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It's been posted before but
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuRnBxURoux/?igshid=NjZiM2M3MzIxNA==
This colorway is great, way better than the other Zahba mids that were posted, but that 'Beatrice' on the heels is a dealbreaker. Live laugh love ass typeface.
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I still can't figure out if I love or hate the Zahba, the mid looks like a mix of a half-cab, carroll, with some fairlane vibes.
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This colorway is great, way better than the other Zahba mids that were posted, but that 'Beatrice' on the heels is a dealbreaker. Live laugh love ass typeface.
EDIT: Kinda reminds me of this sketch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhlJNJopOQ
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It's been posted before but
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuRnBxURoux/?igshid=NjZiM2M3MzIxNA==
This colorway is great, way better than the other Zahba mids that were posted, but that 'Beatrice' on the heels is a dealbreaker. Live laugh love ass typeface.
Looks more like “we have Evan Hecox/chocolate fonts at home”
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It's been posted before but
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuRnBxURoux/?igshid=NjZiM2M3MzIxNA==
This colorway is great, way better than the other Zahba mids that were posted, but that 'Beatrice' on the heels is a dealbreaker. Live laugh love ass typeface.
Looks more like “we have Evan Hecox/chocolate fonts at home”
i wonder if vans regrets not making this shoe a reynolds pro model
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It's been posted before but
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuRnBxURoux/?igshid=NjZiM2M3MzIxNA==
This colorway is great, way better than the other Zahba mids that were posted, but that 'Beatrice' on the heels is a dealbreaker. Live laugh love ass typeface.
Looks more like “we have Evan Hecox/chocolate fonts at home”
i wonder if vans regrets not making this shoe a reynolds pro model
the Half Cab + Carroll? (weird they chose a colorway the Carroll used earlier this year as well)
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/)
Please nooooooo
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On the subject of Papyrus:
“I want to devise a virus
To bring dire straits to your environment
Crush your corporations with a mild touch
Trash your whole computer system and revert you to papyrus”
https://youtu.be/WJaxFbdjm8c
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New Beatrice shoe coming soon?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/)
Please nooooooo
Not to hate on her but I'm amazed of how much love she gets from Vans. Remember a Pal saying that the amount of colorway she has are bigger than her trick bag lol.
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This colorway is great, way better than the other Zahba mids that were posted, but that 'Beatrice' on the heels is a dealbreaker. Live laugh love ass typeface.
EDIT: Kinda reminds me of this sketch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhlJNJopOQ
If they were going for ironic they should've gone full etsy wedding invite with it instead of olive green. Really if it's a Beatrice colorway I'm going to hate on it regardless. Give Fabiana Delfino a colorway or something, damn.
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looks like there's a loafer too. spotted on 561.
https://www.561skateboarding.com/products/vans-skate-zahba-mid-beatrice-domond-dark-olive (https://www.561skateboarding.com/products/vans-skate-zahba-mid-beatrice-domond-dark-olive)
https://www.561skateboarding.com/products/vans-skate-53-beatrice-domond-dark-olive (https://www.561skateboarding.com/products/vans-skate-53-beatrice-domond-dark-olive)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0038/9709/8293/files/[email protected]?v=1688605714)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0038/9709/8293/files/[email protected]?v=1688157774)
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way more important: carroll nick michel colorway. i'm pretty anti-black outsole for the most part but these are pretty good.
https://www.561skateboarding.com/products/vans-skate-mc-96-vcu-nick-michel-navy (https://www.561skateboarding.com/products/vans-skate-mc-96-vcu-nick-michel-navy)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0038/9709/8293/files/[email protected]?v=1688081479)
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Og great, another skate loafer for the clearance rack.
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Lol you can’t make this shit up, another 5050 shuv
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuXJ8TePdsJ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
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Og great, another skate loafer for the clearance rack.
I wish it was a nicer colorway at least.
But that Caroll looks beautiful.
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Lol you can’t make this shit up, another 5050 shuv
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuXJ8TePdsJ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
That was your 2000th post.
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Og great, another skate loafer for the clearance rack.
I wish it was a nicer colorway at least.
But that Caroll looks beautiful.
Also looks like they changed the heel collar material out to fabric on those MCs. May have to give them another try.
Did the Boys of Summer version have a faux leather material in there or was it fabric?
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Lol you can’t make this shit up, another 5050 shuv
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuXJ8TePdsJ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
OK Bobby
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Lol you can’t make this shit up, another 5050 shuv
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuXJ8TePdsJ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
If skateboarding was a normal sport this would be like an F1 driver being awarded a signature product when they were able to drive the car around the track at 100mph without crashing, but could never get up to race speed.
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Lol you can’t make this shit up, another 5050 shuv
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CuXJ8TePdsJ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
If skateboarding was a normal sport this would be like an F1 driver being awarded a signature product when they were able to drive the car around the track at 100mph without crashing, but could never get up to race speed.
So essentially Danica Patrick?
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New Beatrice shoe coming soon?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/)
Please nooooooo
Haha, there’s some truth in the colourway statement for sure. I’ve never understood the hype from day 1. I mean, Elissa Steamer had an Etnies colourway out in 2001 and even then she probably deserved more with the THPS hype etc.
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Has anyone skated/worn the vans lowland models? I’m digging the look, I like that it’s a different vans stripe/wave logo and that it’s leather
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New Beatrice shoe coming soon?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CuUi2Ejr6Bn/)
Please nooooooo
92367459382746523 other pros, females included, deserve a colorway over her. The FA industry dick sucking is out of hand.
Should have call the colorway F/S popshuv.
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way more important: carroll nick michel colorway. i'm pretty anti-black outsole for the most part but these are pretty good.
https://www.561skateboarding.com/products/vans-skate-mc-96-vcu-nick-michel-navy (https://www.561skateboarding.com/products/vans-skate-mc-96-vcu-nick-michel-navy)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0038/9709/8293/files/[email protected]?v=1688081479)
These are nice.
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Og great, another skate loafer for the clearance rack.
I wish it was a nicer colorway at least.
But that Caroll looks beautiful.
Did the Boys of Summer version have a faux leather material in there or was it fabric?
The heel material looks similar (I threw out my pair after skating the heck out of them).
I like them. Definitely bulky but felt similar to a half cab. I got a lot of compliments but the price tag feels weird for a Vulc.
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Og great, another skate loafer for the clearance rack.
I wish it was a nicer colorway at least.
But that Caroll looks beautiful.
Did the Boys of Summer version have a faux leather material in there or was it fabric?
The heel material looks similar (I threw out my pair after skating the heck out of them).
I like them. Definitely bulky but felt similar to a half cab. I got a lot of compliments but the price tag feels weird for a Vulc.
the olive green ones look like they have leather on the heel, did your heel slip at all? i found a pair for $60, was thinking about trying them
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Og great, another skate loafer for the clearance rack.
I wish it was a nicer colorway at least.
But that Caroll looks beautiful.
Did the Boys of Summer version have a faux leather material in there or was it fabric?
The heel material looks similar (I threw out my pair after skating the heck out of them).
I like them. Definitely bulky but felt similar to a half cab. I got a lot of compliments but the price tag feels weird for a Vulc.
the olive green ones look like they have leather on the heel, did your heel slip at all? i found a pair for $60, was thinking about trying them
People have been having slip and also having blisters.
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Got a pair of the Mike February Neo Ultrarange as summer wear shoes. They’re really comfy. Like really comfy. It’s hard to justify its MSRP, but thankfully my nephew works at Vans [mall] and I was able to use his discount.
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On the subject of Papyrus:
“I want to devise a virus
To bring dire straits to your environment
Crush your corporations with a mild touch
Trash your whole computer system and revert you to papyrus”
https://youtu.be/WJaxFbdjm8c
Gnar'd for this top shelf Del reference!!!
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Has anyone skated/worn the vans lowland models? I’m digging the look, I like that it’s a different vans stripe/wave logo and that it’s leather
I think they have the Comfy Cush sole which is 90% foam or something so you could skate them but they'll shred pretty quick if you are hard on your shoes.
Pedro Barros I think has some clips on his IG wearing them while skating, so they're skateable! That's all I got though
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Has anyone skated/worn the vans lowland models? I’m digging the look, I like that it’s a different vans stripe/wave logo and that it’s leather
I think they have the Comfy Cush sole which is 90% foam or something so you could skate them but they'll shred pretty quick if you are hard on your shoes.
Pedro Barros I think has some clips on his IG wearing them while skating, so they're skateable! That's all I got though
When you have a shoe sponsor, you can skate any shoe without worry of how quickly it’ll shred.
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Has anyone skated/worn the vans lowland models? I’m digging the look, I like that it’s a different vans stripe/wave logo and that it’s leather
I think they have the Comfy Cush sole which is 90% foam or something so you could skate them but they'll shred pretty quick if you are hard on your shoes.
Pedro Barros I think has some clips on his IG wearing them while skating, so they're skateable! That's all I got though
When you have a shoe sponsor, you can skate any shoe without worry of how quickly it’ll shred.
Definitely! It must be nice to "test" models like that and not worry about cost or whether you have another model to skate immediately after it! (Slap sale gear regulars excluded because they can do the same thing but aren't the norm)
Side note: Vans could/should do more experiments with making skateable versions of their comfy Cush/hiking/chiller models again, because there are some silhouettes and soles with lots of potential I think to be the next Half Cab or dunk-a-like.
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Has anyone skated/worn the vans lowland models? I’m digging the look, I like that it’s a different vans stripe/wave logo and that it’s leather
I think they have the Comfy Cush sole which is 90% foam or something so you could skate them but they'll shred pretty quick if you are hard on your shoes.
Pedro Barros I think has some clips on his IG wearing them while skating, so they're skateable! That's all I got though
When you have a shoe sponsor, you can skate any shoe without worry of how quickly it’ll shred.
Definitely! It must be nice to "test" models like that and not worry about cost or whether you have another model to skate immediately after it! (Slap sale gear regulars excluded because they can do the same thing but aren't the norm)
Side note: Vans could/should do more experiments with making skateable versions of their comfy Cush/hiking/chiller models again, because there are some silhouettes and soles with lots of potential I think to be the next Half Cab or dunk-a-like.
I legit like the BMX wafflecup slip-ons. Would love to have that sole on the Half Cab
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Has anyone skated/worn the vans lowland models? I’m digging the look, I like that it’s a different vans stripe/wave logo and that it’s leather
I think they have the Comfy Cush sole which is 90% foam or something so you could skate them but they'll shred pretty quick if you are hard on your shoes.
Pedro Barros I think has some clips on his IG wearing them while skating, so they're skateable! That's all I got though
When you have a shoe sponsor, you can skate any shoe without worry of how quickly it’ll shred.
Definitely! It must be nice to "test" models like that and not worry about cost or whether you have another model to skate immediately after it! (Slap sale gear regulars excluded because they can do the same thing but aren't the norm)
Side note: Vans could/should do more experiments with making skateable versions of their comfy Cush/hiking/chiller models again, because there are some silhouettes and soles with lots of potential I think to be the next Half Cab or dunk-a-like.
I legit like the BMX wafflecup slip-ons. Would love to have that sole on the Half Cab
I'll cosign this! I've only tried on BMX waffle cup in store but it did feel better than the skate waffle cup to me
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Has anyone skated/worn the vans lowland models? I’m digging the look, I like that it’s a different vans stripe/wave logo and that it’s leather
I think they have the Comfy Cush sole which is 90% foam or something so you could skate them but they'll shred pretty quick if you are hard on your shoes.
Pedro Barros I think has some clips on his IG wearing them while skating, so they're skateable! That's all I got though
When you have a shoe sponsor, you can skate any shoe without worry of how quickly it’ll shred.
Definitely! It must be nice to "test" models like that and not worry about cost or whether you have another model to skate immediately after it! (Slap sale gear regulars excluded because they can do the same thing but aren't the norm)
Side note: Vans could/should do more experiments with making skateable versions of their comfy Cush/hiking/chiller models again, because there are some silhouettes and soles with lots of potential I think to be the next Half Cab or dunk-a-like.
I legit like the BMX wafflecup slip-ons. Would love to have that sole on the Half Cab
I'll cosign this! I've only tried on BMX waffle cup in store but it did feel better than the skate waffle cup to me
I’m pretty sure the box waffle cup have a shank plate in them that probably helps with the support of the sole compared to the regular waffle cup. Ps I miss you .
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I also think the BMX slips are a sleeper hit. They're based on the Pro slips so the fit is a lot better than the Skate slips and the pairs that I have had had the dura cap over the toe so kinda best of both worlds. I do think the sole is pretty much identical to the all of the other Wafflecups I've tried for better or worse. I like that sole but I know others don't.
The main problem with the BMX slips is getting a decent colorway. They've put out a few non branded/collab colorways that have been alright but they make me look like that software bro POS that I have somehow become.
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Has anyone skated/worn the vans lowland models? I’m digging the look, I like that it’s a different vans stripe/wave logo and that it’s leather
I think they have the Comfy Cush sole which is 90% foam or something so you could skate them but they'll shred pretty quick if you are hard on your shoes.
Pedro Barros I think has some clips on his IG wearing them while skating, so they're skateable! That's all I got though
When you have a shoe sponsor, you can skate any shoe without worry of how quickly it’ll shred.
Definitely! It must be nice to "test" models like that and not worry about cost or whether you have another model to skate immediately after it! (Slap sale gear regulars excluded because they can do the same thing but aren't the norm)
Side note: Vans could/should do more experiments with making skateable versions of their comfy Cush/hiking/chiller models again, because there are some silhouettes and soles with lots of potential I think to be the next Half Cab or dunk-a-like.
Agreed. I have a pair of the comfy Cush slip ons from probably 2019 and they’re still one of my most comfortable pairs of shoes
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On the subject of Papyrus:
“I want to devise a virus
To bring dire straits to your environment
Crush your corporations with a mild touch
Trash your whole computer system and revert you to papyrus”
https://youtu.be/WJaxFbdjm8c
Gnar'd for this top shelf Del reference!!!
Could be that Vans sucks lately because everything had been done by AI?
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Any Euro TMs or the like got a season/year for the new AVE shoe drop?
Also WTF with Vault getting dropped and now it’s OTW? Didn’t they have an OTW line that bombed once already??
FEB 24 ;)
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lizzie low
https://freedomskateshop.de/en/products/vans-lizzie-low-skateschuh-turtledove
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lizzie low
https://freedomskateshop.de/en/products/vans-lizzie-low-skateschuh-turtledove
Thank God is not a 7483th Beatrice colorway.
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I was at a vans store the other day. Tried on skate half cabs and Crockett highs. The skate half cabs in my regular size were choking the life out of my feet. Half size up, they felt ok but not great. Crockett highs in my usual size felt anywhere from a half to full size too long. I either have the most fucked up feet or vans is going crazy with sizing these days.
I will say, the Crockett’s felt pretty nice. All of the uncertainty about the sizing has me a little hesitant though.
Nailed it. Also AA skating in auth hi’s x hockey lately. Another release? Or just wishful thinking?
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I was at a vans store the other day. Tried on skate half cabs and Crockett highs. The skate half cabs in my regular size were choking the life out of my feet. Half size up, they felt ok but not great. Crockett highs in my usual size felt anywhere from a half to full size too long. I either have the most fucked up feet or vans is going crazy with sizing these days.
I will say, the Crockett’s felt pretty nice. All of the uncertainty about the sizing has me a little hesitant though.
This is bang on. Could barely get the Skate half cabs on my feet in my size. Tried Crockett highs in my size and they felt great. Ended up getting Wayvees a half size up because they felt good in the shop, but after a few sessions they’re getting pretty loose. All that to say, I think a broken in pair of half size down Crockett highs would be ideal.
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I was at a vans store the other day. Tried on skate half cabs and Crockett highs. The skate half cabs in my regular size were choking the life out of my feet. Half size up, they felt ok but not great. Crockett highs in my usual size felt anywhere from a half to full size too long. I either have the most fucked up feet or vans is going crazy with sizing these days.
I will say, the Crockett’s felt pretty nice. All of the uncertainty about the sizing has me a little hesitant though.
This is bang on. Could barely get the Skate half cabs on my feet in my size. Tried Crockett highs in my size and they felt great. Ended up getting Wayvees a half size up because they felt good in the shop, but after a few sessions they’re getting pretty loose. All that to say, I think a broken in pair of half size down Crockett highs would be ideal.
Crocketts are lowkey a great shoe. I want a pair of Half Cabs with the Crockett sole.
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Has anyone tried the MTE ultrarange or any of the MTE models? I'm planning on using these for winter hiking/snowshoeing
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I have some MTE Old Skools. I was mostly using them for light hiking to rock climbs because they have a Polarfleece lining and decently knobby tread and they lace up fast. They accomplish that well, no complaints about them really.
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I had a pair of the original MTE SK8 Hi's. those things were absolute tanks, no matter how hard I wore them they never wore down or got shredded. Lasted probably 5 winters.
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Has anyone tried the MTE ultrarange or any of the MTE models? I'm planning on using these for winter hiking/snowshoeing
Yes. I've ran them for winter needs of all sorts. Snow camping, hiking, pow surfing, shoveling after FEET of snow you name it. They are good and hold up. Have the GoreTex MTE Iguchi boots and they are tanks as stated. Plus Iguchi is a ripper of snow and skate so gotta support.
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I’ve been skating the Zahba Mid lately and I have to say, I like the way it fits my foot and how they feel. The Zahba low was a little snug for me in the toe box. I’m really digging the mids.
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Has anyone tried the MTE ultrarange or any of the MTE models? I'm planning on using these for winter hiking/snowshoeing
Shit this got me thinking I'm not sure where my Sk8-Hi MTEs are and winters comin up. Gotta find them foot jawns soon....
Wish the sole had more stock padding, but the upper is strong AF, and pretty water resistant but a lot of that is probably from the hydrophobic sealing spray I put on
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XLT's officially announced!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxa4wNbufi0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxa4wNbufi0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
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XLT's officially announced!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxa4wNbufi0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxa4wNbufi0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Really liked the XLT back in the days. They might be too puffy for me, these days
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XLT's officially announced!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxa4wNbufi0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxa4wNbufi0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Really liked the XLT back in the days. They might be too puffy for me, these days
The white ones I saw in the shop seemed normal to me. Didn’t look like a potato or anything
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XLT's officially announced!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxa4wNbufi0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link (https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cxa4wNbufi0/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link)
Really liked the XLT back in the days. They might be too puffy for me, these days
The white ones I saw in the shop seemed normal to me. Didn’t look like a potato or anything
Fuck, I'm really conflicted with these. I learned kickflips in the original ones, so I'll always have a soft spot for them, but I don't really wanna buy something with thin blue line era Rowley's name on it.
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Not particularly skate related, and they're only available in Japan, but I know there are some cycle nerds on here, so here's the Blue Lug x Vans collab.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CxXqmtAyS5D/?img_index=1
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(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/52c75691e4b083e90ebff495/5bf26b3b-58b2-4958-8618-6142990ae3c3/IMG_9879.JPG?format=1500w)
Looks like 18 East is releasing a Half Cab. Based on the details in the Village Psychic interview, I'm really hyped on it. Doesn't seem like it'll be based off the current Skate Half Cab model.
http://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/18-east-half-cab
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Rowan 2s on the way.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vans/comments/16un5uy/vans_rowan_2/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Vans/comments/16un5uy/vans_rowan_2/)
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(https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/52c75691e4b083e90ebff495/5bf26b3b-58b2-4958-8618-6142990ae3c3/IMG_9879.JPG?format=1500w)
Looks like 18 East is releasing a Half Cab. Based on the details in the Village Psychic interview, I'm really hyped on it. Doesn't seem like it'll be based off the current Skate Half Cab model.
http://www.villagepsychic.net/blog/18-east-half-cab
That's super cool but it seems like it's going to be expensive and only available through 18 East?
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Rowan 2s on the way.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vans/comments/16un5uy/vans_rowan_2/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Vans/comments/16un5uy/vans_rowan_2/)
Oct 20th (?)
I kinda dig the white stitching on black leather.
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Not particularly skate related, and they're only available in Japan, but I know there are some cycle nerds on here, so here's the Blue Lug x Vans collab.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CxXqmtAyS5D/?img_index=1
vans releases one cool thing and turns out to be very limited. vans releases a shit colorway and it’s widely accessible. vans you guys are clearly fumbling it get ur shit together
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Images of these Carrolls surfaced about a year ago. Anyone know if they're still going to be released? I heard possibly November from a nice Pal, but haven't seen or heard anything else.
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Images of these Carrolls surfaced about a year ago. Anyone know if they're still going to be released? I heard possibly November from a nice Pal, but haven't seen or heard anything else.
I def saw them in person in a Vans rep haul at my local many months ago. The Rowan 2s and White XLTs were in that haul, so November/Dec seems reasonable as those models appear to be coming soon
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Rowan 2s on the way.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vans/comments/16un5uy/vans_rowan_2/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Vans/comments/16un5uy/vans_rowan_2/)
Oct 20th (?)
I kinda dig the white stitching on black leather.
Yeah they're everywhere now...not sure I can justify $110 on Vans these days (even tho I like the look of them); The black and white still look great...but if I was going to go that route, them 480s would be it.
Also, why do Vans always look pronated out of the box (see attached)?
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Yeah they're everywhere now...not sure I can justify $110 on Vans these days (even tho I like the look of them); The black and white still look great...but if I was going to go that route, them 480s would be it.
Also, why do Vans always look pronated out of the box (see attached)?
Yeah I have always noticed that, which is why I get out the grinder and take off the outside edge, as well as putting in a custom cut insole to make them feel a bit more normal for me.
Once they have been worn for a while, they often shape the other way, but at first, if I don't do what I usually do, I can not wear them at all without having serious issues with ankles.
I make my own orthotic looking bits to fit under the insole I put in so they roll the other way, as well as soften up the edge so I don't go from upright to rolled ankle, if that makes sense, but it is something I am used to doing for all of them.
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Went to the store and tried on the Rowan 2s and hot damn, the toe box on that thing is tapered and skinny. Like worse than the Ultrarange skate and the Zahbas. Unless you’re skinny with skinny feet, these might feel a bit tight.
Guess I’m sticking to Wayvees for the time being
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Went to the store and tried on the Rowan 2s and hot damn, the toe box on that thing is tapered and skinny. Like worse than the Ultrarange skate and the Zahbas. Unless you’re skinny with skinny feet, these might feel a bit tight.
Guess I’m sticking to Wayvees for the time being
Yeah the whole reason I love the Rowan’s is because they were the widest Skate Vans I’ve tried. Even then I use one of those shoe stretchers to widen them more.
Not a fan of the new look of the 2s. Hopefully they don’t discontinue the original Rowan’s. I may need to stock up.
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Checked out the Rowan's in person today, they are so oddly narrow and pointy it wasn't even worth trying them on as it would have been an exercise in futility and a waste of the employees time. They have a wide shoe 'shape' at the metatarsal area it's still super skinny and the toe box is a literally a triangle; horrible.
Totally different shoe...where the OG Rowan had Half Cab vibes, the R2 is def leaning towards the Zahba end of the spectrum.
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Checked out the Rowan's in person today, they are so oddly narrow and pointy it wasn't even worth trying them on as it would have been an exercise in futility and a waste of the employees time. They have a wide shoe 'shape' at the metatarsal area it's still super skinny and the toe box is a literally a triangle; horrible.
Totally different shoe...where the OG Rowan had Half Cab vibes, the R2 is def leaning towards the Zahba end of the spectrum.
I wonder if this is the choice of the pro rider, or someone in R&D or even just randomly done, but some toe areas are so big and wide, while others are so narrow and pointy in consecutive shoes, even some upgraded shoes have changed like this over the years, eg Half Cabs - some older ones are way more rounded in the toe area than the more recent ones, which are squashing my toes right now in this new pair.
Older models I had I recall talking about a lot that I also pulled out not too long ago to compare to some current shoes:
TNT - wide and round
TNT2 - a bit more pointy
TNT5 very pointy
Rowans - lots of room in the toe area
AVE Sk8 low - very pointy but worked well
Rowley Shambles - very pointy
Rowley Solo - medium pointy but worked well
Rowleys in the yellow box I can't remember the name of, but they were a lot more round
A few team models I can't remember the names of but were very round and I would have bought a lot more of those, but they only came out more so in weird colours.
Too many others to go through right now...
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Lizzie Low
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzCCXmGvKCD/
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I'd just like to say that the Rowan 2 feels incredible on my feet. Probably the best feeling Vans shoe I've worn in ten years. It's like the cushion level of a jordan 1 and fits my foot perfectly. Understandable how different everyone's feet and preferences are, but for me, this is a great shoe and something I've been looking for for awhile.
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Lizzie Low
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzCCXmGvKCD/
Clean your microwave, woman.
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Lizzie Low
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzCCXmGvKCD/
Clean your microwave, woman.
Was my first thought, as well. :o
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Lizzie Low
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzCCXmGvKCD/
Clean your microwave, woman.
That’s an axel task
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Does anyone have info or pics of the new AVE model? Or can point me to where about to look in this thread for them?
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Lizzie Low
https://www.instagram.com/p/CzCCXmGvKCD/
Clean your microwave, woman.
That’s an axel task
Indeed. She's the bread winner, not the bread maker in that coupling.
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Checked out the Rowan's in person today, they are so oddly narrow and pointy it wasn't even worth trying them on as it would have been an exercise in futility and a waste of the employees time. They have a wide shoe 'shape' at the metatarsal area it's still super skinny and the toe box is a literally a triangle; horrible.
Totally different shoe...where the OG Rowan had Half Cab vibes, the R2 is def leaning towards the Zahba end of the spectrum.
I wonder if this is the choice of the pro rider, or someone in R&D or even just randomly done, but some toe areas are so big and wide, while others are so narrow and pointy in consecutive shoes, even some upgraded shoes have changed like this over the years, eg Half Cabs - some older ones are way more rounded in the toe area than the more recent ones, which are squashing my toes right now in this new pair.
Older models I had I recall talking about a lot that I also pulled out not too long ago to compare to some current shoes:
TNT - wide and round
TNT2 - a bit more pointy
TNT5 very pointy
Rowans - lots of room in the toe area
AVE Sk8 low - very pointy but worked well
Rowley Shambles - very pointy
Rowley Solo - medium pointy but worked well
Rowleys in the yellow box I can't remember the name of, but they were a lot more round
A few team models I can't remember the names of but were very round and I would have bought a lot more of those, but they only came out more so in weird colours.
Too many others to go through right now...
Vans has definitely gone pointier as the introduce more tech (especially post waffle cup). I can't remember which round it was but after the TNT SG (loved that shoe) both the next gen crocketts and TNTs changed...weird shape toeboxes, long and pointy...The TNT5s still had the wide one piece toebox, TNT Advance Prototype maybe? But this Crockett is just gross:
(https://scene7.zumiez.com/is/image/zumiez/product_main_medium_2x/Vans-Skate-Crockett-White-%26-Gum-Skate-Shoes-_363271-alt1-US.jpg)
...then the wayvee....zhaba...rowan2...latest Kwalks...
Give me some Vans Stage 4 crockett mids...
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The new XLT juants
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A question for every pal who has/had Half Cab Pros and the newer Skate Half Cab's.
Biggest difference seems to be, that the ankle collar is way stiffer and the shoe takes a bit longer to break in, right? What about sizing? Should I get the same size as in the previous Half Cab or Reebok's or Lakai's? And what about the Half Cab 92s? The green ones look kool.
I just want them for chilling and maybe cruising.
Still don't know when I will be able to skate again. The injuries and problems keep piling up.
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A question for every pal who has/had Half Cab Pros and the newer Skate Half Cab's.
Biggest difference seems to be, that the ankle collar is way stiffer and the shoe takes a bit longer to break in, right? What about sizing? Should I get the same size as in the previous Half Cab or Reebok's or Lakai's? And what about the Half Cab 92s? The green ones look kool.
I just want them for chilling and maybe cruising.
Still don't know when I will be able to skate again. The injuries and problems keep piling up.
sizing feels approximate to the pros, just ever so slightly smaller maybe...but not enough to adjust the size. I still have a holdover of the pros and I skate them and the "skate" version pretty regularly. The only reason I intermingle them is I find the skate version is way more uncomfortable, but I gotta break them in somehow and walking around just wasn't doing it. Also they are slightly higher and the foxing is just barely a hair higher on the skate version. I wish they just would bring the pro version back and get rid of the iron collar these skate ones have. Also finally putting the skate version on is just harder than the pro version...if you're like me and wear shoes slightly loose so you can slip your foot in, but requires two hands for the skate version.
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A question for every pal who has/had Half Cab Pros and the newer Skate Half Cab's.
Biggest difference seems to be, that the ankle collar is way stiffer and the shoe takes a bit longer to break in, right? What about sizing? Should I get the same size as in the previous Half Cab or Reebok's or Lakai's? And what about the Half Cab 92s? The green ones look kool.
I just want them for chilling and maybe cruising.
Still don't know when I will be able to skate again. The injuries and problems keep piling up.
I like the upper for the pros way more but the sole on the skate version is undeniably better for me. The pros would mush out so much it felt like walking on marshmallows after 3 sessions.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CzmLoj8MJtn/?igshid=MWxlb2F4MHZ6bHF0eA==
That big chunky sole for the itty bitty midsole is honestly laughable. Glad I passed on these last week.
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Is there a new AVE in the works? I’m probably the only hardcore AVE devotee here so I’m curious what a new one would entail.
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Is there a new AVE in the works? I’m probably the only hardcore AVE devotee here so I’m curious what a new one would entail.
oh the ave pro is a good to great shoe.
i had a few pairs and really liked them. maybe i never totally fell for the look.
if they could an old skool feel like an ave pro they’d go back to printing money
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Is there a new AVE in the works? I’m probably the only hardcore AVE devotee here so I’m curious what a new one would entail.
From the Upcoming Shoes thread:
(https://i.ibb.co/tcWYMpc/54699810-C254-4833-B2-DC-73-E9-A9-E48881.jpg)
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Is there a new AVE in the works? I’m probably the only hardcore AVE devotee here so I’m curious what a new one would entail.
(https://i.ibb.co/tcWYMpc/54699810-C254-4833-B2-DC-73-E9-A9-E48881.jpg)
Thanks, that’s interesting. It looks like it has a bigger heel drop than original, which is one of the things I like most about the AVE - it feels fairly flat. Otherwise it’s a bunch of marketing gobbledegook.
I’m sure I’ll try a pair when they’re $45 on sale in 2025.
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Is there a new AVE in the works? I’m probably the only hardcore AVE devotee here so I’m curious what a new one would entail.
(https://i.ibb.co/tcWYMpc/54699810-C254-4833-B2-DC-73-E9-A9-E48881.jpg)
Thanks, that’s interesting. It looks like it has a bigger heel drop than original, which is one of the things I like most about the AVE - it feels fairly flat. Otherwise it’s a bunch of marketing gobbledegook.
I’m sure I’ll try a pair when they’re $45 on sale in 2025.
It feels like Vans on the 2000's
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Is there a new AVE in the works? I’m probably the only hardcore AVE devotee here so I’m curious what a new one would entail.
(https://i.ibb.co/tcWYMpc/54699810-C254-4833-B2-DC-73-E9-A9-E48881.jpg)
I like these, if they come in a different colorway I would try them.
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(https://i.imgur.com/pZobkSO.png)
Images of these Carrolls surfaced about a year ago. Anyone know if they're still going to be released? I heard possibly November from a nice Pal, but haven't seen or heard anything else.
I def saw them in person in a Vans rep haul at my local many months ago. The Rowan 2s and White XLTs were in that haul, so November/Dec seems reasonable as those models appear to be coming soon
Sorry, I did not see that this thread existed.
I just ordered mine, they're available in certain skateshops and I can't believe that these are marketed so poorly.
Classic colorway.
(Gorecki said that these would be "friends and Family" only, but seems like it's a general release either way)
Can't wait to receive them! (probably going to double up on them)
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Is there a new AVE in the works? I’m probably the only hardcore AVE devotee here so I’m curious what a new one would entail.
(https://i.ibb.co/tcWYMpc/54699810-C254-4833-B2-DC-73-E9-A9-E48881.jpg)
I liked the ave and the rapid weld version, these will be with a look.
Was walking around in nb 600s and just don’t like how they fit/feel/skate…randomly walked into a vans and tried on the gamut; last vans I skated were the wavee (sucked) and the rowan1(loved it).
Gotta say, the new Rowan has the weirdest fkn toe box shape I’ve ever seen…it’s like the shoe is just bent.
Anyway I poopooed the og low release but saw this color way in the mid and walked out wearing them…the fit much better that the lows did?
(https://i.ibb.co/VY4F4Nq/IMG-0213.png) (https://ibb.co/VY4F4Nq)
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Anyone aware of any other colorways coming out for these Skate Authentic Mids? Brown suede seems to be the initial color
(https://njskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/[email protected]?v=1704222748)
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Anyone aware of any other colorways coming out for these Skate Authentic Mids? Brown suede seems to be the initial color
(https://njskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/[email protected]?v=1704222748)
Jesus just make a regular chukka boot again already.
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(https://i.ibb.co/m8VQ8zP/1000002894.jpg) (https://ibb.co/m8VQ8zP)(https://i.ibb.co/7VvQG1n/1000002896.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7VvQG1n)(https://i.ibb.co/Pt9xxcH/1000002895.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Pt9xxcH)
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Anyone aware of any other colorways coming out for these Skate Authentic Mids? Brown suede seems to be the initial color
(https://njskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/[email protected]?v=1704222748)
i see nothing on SS24 but there's a full black and a royal blue (canvas) coming for FW24
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Anyone aware of any other colorways coming out for these Skate Authentic Mids? Brown suede seems to be the initial color
(https://njskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/[email protected]?v=1704222748)
Jesus just make a regular chukka boot again already.
They’ve done an all white and all black pair recently
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@Atiba Applebum just in case. This is a "new" shoe, Authentic Mid.
You might be talking about the Authentic Hi
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@Atiba Applebum just in case. This is a "new" shoe, Authentic Mid.
You might be talking about the Authentic Hi
I was talking chukka
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@Atiba Applebum just in case. This is a "new" shoe, Authentic Mid.
You might be talking about the Authentic Hi
(http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/17128_92685.jpg)
(http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/16910_92685.jpg)
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@Atiba Applebum just in case. This is a "new" shoe, Authentic Mid.
You might be talking about the Authentic Hi
(http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/16910_92685.jpg)
There was also a brown one that was a Noah collab that was only released at Noah that I’m happy to have claimed
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@Atiba Applebum just in case. This is a "new" shoe, Authentic Mid.
You might be talking about the Authentic Hi
(http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/16910_92685.jpg)
There was also a brown one that was a Noah collab that was only released at Noah that I’m happy to have claimed
And a pair of corduroy magenta collabs if I'm not mistaken
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Anyone aware of any other colorways coming out for these Skate Authentic Mids? Brown suede seems to be the initial color
(https://njskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/[email protected]?v=1704222748)
i see nothing on SS24 but there's a full black and a royal blue (canvas) coming for FW24
The colorways I know for sure are Black/Black, Forest Green, and Van Doren Navy. Van Doren Navy being that classic lighter blue color that they call Navy for some reason.
Those are for May-December. Could be other colors too, between now and May.
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@Atiba Applebum just in case. This is a "new" shoe, Authentic Mid.
You might be talking about the Authentic Hi
(http://www.skateparkoftampa.com/spot/productimages/colors/16910_92685.jpg)
There was also a brown one that was a Noah collab that was only released at Noah that I’m happy to have claimed
And a pair of corduroy magenta collabs if I'm not mistaken
I believe the magenta were europe exclusive.
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Anyone have info on these? Just samples?
https://i.imgur.com/MnWfpf9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9BwBmYe.jpg
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Anyone aware of any other colorways coming out for these Skate Authentic Mids? Brown suede seems to be the initial color
(https://njskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/[email protected]?v=1704222748)
Jesus just make a regular chukka boot again already.
Even outside of my own strong desire to have canvas chukka boots readily available (outside of collabs and more boutique offerings), I just don’t understand with all of the 90s revival aesthetics that have been swirling around for the last several years, how it hasn’t come to fruition. Maybe between nostalgia moving into the early 00’s and vans’ recent cuts, I feel like maybe the window is closing. Tragic. Those authentic mids just don’t do it for me. Probably because they’re so ugly.
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I had a few pairs of Chukka boots in 1990-1991. I like the shoe but the side seem was a blow out spot. I like these Authentic mids a lot. Eras/Authentics hold up a little better than the chukka boots did.
I would buy 2 pairs of these right now if I could confirm that the Authentic mids have a full lining in the inside heel area and not the exposed heel cup stitching that the Authentic low, Era, and Old Skools have.
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Just got some Black/White Old Skool’s.
I need better arch support than what the PopCush provides.
Does anyone with similar needs have suggestions on some insoles to buy?
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Anyone know if any new Carroll/ MC96 colorways are dropping this year?
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Anyone aware of any other colorways coming out for these Skate Authentic Mids? Brown suede seems to be the initial color
(https://njskateshop.com/cdn/shop/files/[email protected]?v=1704222748)
Vans should ditch chukka and make those in mid and hi's
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Just got some Black/White Old Skool’s.
I need better arch support than what the PopCush provides.
Does anyone with similar needs have suggestions on some insoles to buy?
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=103113.0
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I had a few pairs of Chukka boots in 1990-1991. I like the shoe but the side seem was a blow out spot. I like these Authentic mids a lot. Eras/Authentics hold up a little better than the chukka boots did.
I would buy 2 pairs of these right now if I could confirm that the Authentic mids have a full lining in the inside heel area and not the exposed heel cup stitching that the Authentic low, Era, and Old Skools have.
I can confirm there is no exposed stitching like those other models and it's a much smoother ride. It's still that somewhat rugged canvas they use back there but as long as you aren't going barefoot you should be good. I agree the pronounced stitching on the heel cup with the new "Skate" line is a nightmare.
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Just got some Black/White Old Skool’s.
I need better arch support than what the PopCush provides.
Does anyone with similar needs have suggestions on some insoles to buy?
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=103113.0
@WideFeet
The problem with just about everything listed in the above thread is that none of them are as thicc as the popcush insole; I've never found one with decent arch support that can replace and feel as well as fit how the popcush feels in whichever vans they come in. The closest I got was with some generic ass flat NB# insole form a vulc pair and then stacked the superfeet flex on top of it (and it was still too low).
Same issue with the old Suciu ADVs (I bet those insole were thicc enough to swap for popcush).
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I bought a pair of the Authentic Mids in brown shown above and they have given me the worst blisters on my heels. They’ve also managed to pinch my pinky toe on my right foot. I do like how they look, but the fit of these arent really working well with my feet.
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Just got some Black/White Old Skool’s.
I need better arch support than what the PopCush provides.
Does anyone with similar needs have suggestions on some insoles to buy?
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=103113.0
@WideFeet
The problem with just about everything listed in the above thread is that none of them are as thicc as the popcush insole; I've never found one with decent arch support that can replace and feel as well as fit how the popcush feels in whichever vans they come in. The closest I got was with some generic ass flat NB# insole form a vulc pair and then stacked the superfeet flex on top of it (and it was still too low).
Same issue with the old Suciu ADVs (I bet those insole were thicc enough to swap for popcush).
Actually the Adidas adiprene insole that came in sucius and superstar adv works great as a popcush replacement. I swap them on some Kyle walker and half cab pros, I couldn't skate them otherwise. Adiprene is a little taller than popcush but not that much, and they have some arch support.
But if you really want arch support just don't buy Vans.
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Just got some Black/White Old Skool’s.
I need better arch support than what the PopCush provides.
Does anyone with similar needs have suggestions on some insoles to buy?
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=103113.0
@WideFeet
The problem with just about everything listed in the above thread is that none of them are as thicc as the popcush insole; I've never found one with decent arch support that can replace and feel as well as fit how the popcush feels in whichever vans they come in. The closest I got was with some generic ass flat NB# insole form a vulc pair and then stacked the superfeet flex on top of it (and it was still too low).
Same issue with the old Suciu ADVs (I bet those insole were thicc enough to swap for popcush).
Actually the Adidas adiprene insole that came in sucius and superstar adv works great as a popcush replacement. I swap them on some Kyle walker and half cab pros, I couldn't skate them otherwise. Adiprene is a little taller than popcush but not that much, and they have some arch support.
But if you really want arch support just don't buy Vans.
No skate shoes have adequate arch support. Not buying Vans wouldn’t help me, unfortunately.
Also, I have really wide feet (see user name) so thinner insole actually helps.
I appreciate all the input Pals!
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It's a shame Adidas never put cloth over that rubber adiprene insole. Admittedly, the tech and function were top shelf, but they ruined it by having it be rubber and no sockliner material. A nightmare just feelingthet rubber slide your socks around.
Fucking absolute idiots at Adidas to greenlight that insole without cloth on it. I've held that frustration for years. I wanted to skate both Suciu models because they were some of the best looking Adidas models EVER. I tried ultracush, State, STI (etnies), double insoling and it never quite got it right, sadly. Forgive me for rambling, this is a Vans thread and I'm digressing
I can't skate Vans vulcs anymore, but I gotta say, their ultra/pop cush work well in other cupsoles that have removable insoles. Seems like that's where the insole works best compared to their own vulcs. Example, Zahba could have benefited from a drop-in pop cush insole. Even if it was slightly thinner than their vulc version.
@WideFeet my 2 cents would be to try State insoles (dense and thick but not Popcush thick) or Etnies STI insoles and add a thinner (think stock NB 440 insole) insole on top to give support and get fit dialed. I've done that to make shoes more supportive, yet comfortable enough to wear/skate
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@WideFeet my 2 cents would be to try State insoles (dense and thick but not Popcush thick) or Etnies STI insoles and add a thinner (think stock NB 440 insole) insole on top to give support and get fit dialed. I've done that to make shoes more supportive, yet comfortable enough to wear/skate
Thanks for the input. I really doubt any of those options will have the arch support I need. I think my arches are really arched. Plus my pronation, it doesn’t make for a good combination
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Is the sk8-hi or sk8-lo advisable? It's the only model I havn't tried, wayvee wasn't that nice for me. I might just get some slip ons and call it a day...
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Is the sk8-hi or sk8-lo advisable? It's the only model I havn't tried, wayvee wasn't that nice for me. I might just get some slip ons and call it a day...
My preference is the SK8-mid.
I assume it's true in other places as well, but the UK online Vans store has a big sale on going, with actually decent shoes, in deecent sizes, not the usual hideous shoes in stupid sizes.
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@WideFeet my 2 cents would be to try State insoles (dense and thick but not Popcush thick) or Etnies STI insoles and add a thinner (think stock NB 440 insole) insole on top to give support and get fit dialed. I've done that to make shoes more supportive, yet comfortable enough to wear/skate
Thanks for the input. I really doubt any of those options will have the arch support I need. I think my arches are really arched. Plus my pronation, it doesn’t make for a good combination
I've got some bad arches too. The Etnies insoles are alright but they're no better/worse versus like a Dr Scholl's. Honestly your best bet is to just buy some off the shelf insoles that help with arches, or get some supportive insert. Pronation is an absolute bitch, and generally skate shoes don't help with that kind of thing. Maybe if you haven't tried some of the New Balance cupsoles you could try those out.
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Is the sk8-hi or sk8-lo advisable? It's the only model I havn't tried, wayvee wasn't that nice for me. I might just get some slip ons and call it a day...
I really liked the one pair of sk8-lo's I had - haven't tried sk8-hi's but my friends always bellyache about how long they take to tie/untie
The vulc Rowan is still their best pro model, imo
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Is the sk8-hi or sk8-lo advisable? It's the only model I havn't tried, wayvee wasn't that nice for me. I might just get some slip ons and call it a day...
I really liked the one pair of sk8-lo's I had - haven't tried sk8-hi's but my friends always bellyache about how long they take to tie/untie
The vulc Rowan is still their best pro model, imo
I hate to admit it, but I did like this model a bit more than Half Cabs.
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Is the sk8-hi or sk8-lo advisable? It's the only model I havn't tried, wayvee wasn't that nice for me. I might just get some slip ons and call it a day...
While I don't enjoy vans. I will say the SK8 Hi is a really nice skate shoe. Had the Ben K ones and they were really nice
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I'm skating a pair of SKATE SK8-His at the moment and while they're alright, I do hate how long it takes me to tie and untie them. The Pro version wasn't as bad when it came to that.
SKATE SK8-Lows were my go-to for a while but they've been super hard to find for a couple years now.
SKATE SK8-Mids are dope, just avoid the black-white-emo colorway (be careful, it's the classic black with white sole colorway but the upper is made of a weird material that's stiffer than steel and makes the shoe really uncomfortable; you'll be fine if the upper is made of canvas).
Had a pair of Rowans, thought they were really comfy but not that good for flip tricks, too chunky.
SKATE Half Cabs are pretty good, it takes me 4 to 5 sessions to break them in but then they last really long (and they look fantastic even if they're a bit different from the Pro ones).
Crocketts (the low ones) are really good too but not as durable.
Avoid Lizzie's shoe, I got a pair in my usual size and they're so snug, I can't even wear them as chillers. Money wasted.
TLDR: Get SKATE SK8-Mids with a canvas upper or SKATE Half Cabs.
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Had a pair of Rowans, thought they were really comfy but not that good for flip tricks, too chunky.
SKATE Half Cabs are pretty good, it takes me 4 to 5 sessions to break them in but then they last really long (and they look fantastic even if they're a bit different from the Pro ones).
Interesting you find the Rowans more chunky than Half Cabs for flip tricks. The toe shape is nearly identical to my eye and feel.
Personally didn't find flipping my board that tough in them. Other than the side panel being weak compared to the rest of the upper (and the classic Vans sole that goes bald in less than 3 weeks), I couldn't find anything to complain about
I agree main draw is definitely the comfy-ness. Nice wide mid-foot and toe box, pretty generous padding at the collar, padded but not poofy tongue, 15 min break-in.... yeah, that's all really I want from Vans at this point
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SKATE SK8-Mids are dope, just avoid the black-white-emo colorway (be careful, it's the classic black with white sole colorway but the upper is made of a weird material that's stiffer than steel and makes the shoe really uncomfortable; you'll be fine if the upper is made of canvas).
I'm breaking in a pair of the emo colorway right now and they feel alright. Definitely stiffer than canvas, but they're not that bad.
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Interesting you find the Rowans more chunky than Half Cabs for flip tricks. The toe shape is nearly identical to my eye and feel.
Personally didn't find flipping my board that tough in them. Other than the side panel being weak compared to the rest of the upper (and the classic Vans sole that goes bald in less than 3 weeks), I couldn't find anything to complain about
I agree main draw is definitely the comfy-ness. Nice wide mid-foot and toe box, pretty generous padding at the collar, padded but not poofy tongue, 15 min break-in.... yeah, that's all really I want from Vans at this point
Oh man I had the first black ones (white sole of course) that had a black jazz stripe and low-key contrast stitching, those looked really rad and were fantastic for skating curbs and transition but I found them weird when it came to skating flatground, they felt too chunky even if the sole was pretty good. They did feel kind of similar to the new SKATE Half Cabs but I had Rowans first then those new Half Cabs so who knows, maybe I got used to that chunkiness with my Half Cabs? Could be tempted to get a second pair if I found one for half price in a decent colorway.
(https://shop.cjsskatepark.com/cdn/shop/products/Vansrowanproblackdoubleimage_1200x1200.jpg?v=1589211846)
I'm breaking in a pair of the emo colorway right now and they feel alright. Definitely stiffer than canvas, but they're not that bad.
Been wearing mine every fortnight for over a year and they still feel way too stiff. Tried skating in them 3 or 4 times, it's just not happening.
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Had a pair of Rowans, thought they were really comfy but not that good for flip tricks, too chunky.
SKATE Half Cabs are pretty good, it takes me 4 to 5 sessions to break them in but then they last really long (and they look fantastic even if they're a bit different from the Pro ones).
Interesting you find the Rowans more chunky than Half Cabs for flip tricks. The toe shape is nearly identical to my eye and feel.
Personally didn't find flipping my board that tough in them. Other than the side panel being weak compared to the rest of the upper (and the classic Vans sole that goes bald in less than 3 weeks), I couldn't find anything to complain about
I agree main draw is definitely the comfy-ness. Nice wide mid-foot and toe box, pretty generous padding at the collar, padded but not poofy tongue, 15 min break-in.... yeah, that's all really I want from Vans at this point
I find the rowans to be less chunky than the half cabs. In fact they feel like half cabs used to feel like before the "skate" line was created. They're a phenomenal shoe.
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I have non-Skate Sk8 Lows as chillers that I skated in once and they felt amazing. Definitely not a protective shoe, but if the Skate version has a similar feel with more padding, I imagine they’d be great too, assuming you have flipper feet like I do.
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SKATE SK8-Mids are dope, just avoid the black-white-emo colorway (be careful, it's the classic black with white sole colorway but the upper is made of a weird material that's stiffer than steel and makes the shoe really uncomfortable; you'll be fine if the upper is made of canvas).
I'm breaking in a pair of the emo colorway right now and they feel alright. Definitely stiffer than canvas, but they're not that bad.
Is the emo leather the synthetic/waxy material? I agree that the material is stiff and takes some time to break in, but it makes the shoe last so long. I had a pair of Old Schools Pros with this material on the sidewall and skated them for months before I ripped through the material. I skated a pair of Old School Pros with a canvas sidewall and ripped through to the sock in less than a week.
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Is the emo leather the synthetic/waxy material? I agree that the material is stiff and takes some time to break in, but it makes the shoe last so long. I had a pair of Old Schools Pros with this material on the sidewall and skated them for months before I ripped through the material. I skated a pair of Old School Pros with a canvas sidewall and ripped through to the sock in less than a week.
That emo leather is synthetic/waxy, yes.
I've never seen it on other Vans before but I don't get Old Skools super often.
(https://cdn.skatedeluxe.com/thumb/lDftXIWyk7kxlNCi0jnvyuBl2fw=/fit-in/600x700/filters:fill(white):brightness(-4)/product/145292-3-Vans-SkateGrossoMidLeather.jpg)
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They did feel kind of similar to the new SKATE Half Cabs but I had Rowans first then those new Half Cabs so who knows, maybe I got used to that chunkiness with my Half Cabs? Could be tempted to get a second pair if I found one for half price in a decent colorway.
I keep checking, they rarely go on sale, specifically in good colors. They're fairly popular even in my small-ish city, so I imagine they must sell at least half decent. Considering they have him a second model, he must be bringing some cash flow in.
BUT eating my words a bit, here's a clean blue/white colorway for 50$...
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Vans_Rowan_Pro_Shoes/descpage-VARBL.html
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They did feel kind of similar to the new SKATE Half Cabs but I had Rowans first then those new Half Cabs so who knows, maybe I got used to that chunkiness with my Half Cabs? Could be tempted to get a second pair if I found one for half price in a decent colorway.
I keep checking, they rarely go on sale, specifically in good colors. They're fairly popular even in my small-ish city, so I imagine they must sell at least half decent. Considering they have him a second model, he must be bringing some cash flow in.
BUT eating my words a bit, here's a clean blue/white colorway for 50$...
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Vans_Rowan_Pro_Shoes/descpage-VARBL.html
I do think the "classic colourways" don't go on sale as much, but sometimes it is just the sheer volume of shoes in shops that makes some end up on clearance faster than others.
Picked up the first Rowan black white colour for a bargain price when there were overstock not too long after they first came out, so maybe they didn't sell as well as hoped, or whatever reason, but sometimes you can be in the right place at the right time too.
Even some of the blanket % off sales end up being really good for regular lines of product, shoes or other stuff too, so I keep an eye on places that have 20% or even 30% off and those things often go quick when those kind of sales are announced.
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I already had those blue rowans, but this thread reminded me I may need a backup...so ordered. It's definitely been my favorite blue as well. Would enjoy some half cabs in the same color.
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Anyone able to compare the Rowan 2s to other cupsoles on the market (Dunks, NB 1010, etc)? That sole looks insanely chunky to me but I’m curious if it translates to 0 boardfeel or if there’s more going on than meets the eye.
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Anyone able to compare the Rowan 2s to other cupsoles on the market (Dunks, NB 1010, etc)? That sole looks insanely chunky to me but I’m curious if it translates to 0 boardfeel or if there’s more going on than meets the eye.
This site has a bunch of reviews of shoes
https://www.weartested.com/vans-rowan-2/
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Anyone able to compare the Rowan 2s to other cupsoles on the market (Dunks, NB 1010, etc)? That sole looks insanely chunky to me but I’m curious if it translates to 0 boardfeel or if there’s more going on than meets the eye.
https://www.weartested.com/vans-rowan-2/
Wow completely forgot about Weartested, figured they imploded around when Ripped Laces did. Appreciate it!
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Still rotating in my rowan 2s but not as much now as I can't fit my new insoles (higher arch) in them, with or without leaving the stock paper thin one in. Sucks too because I really like them (more than my Nike Leos which can fit the insole on top of stock).
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Anyone able to compare the Rowan 2s to other cupsoles on the market (Dunks, NB 1010, etc)? That sole looks insanely chunky to me but I’m curious if it translates to 0 boardfeel or if there’s more going on than meets the eye.
I'm going back and forth with Rowan 2's and 1010's right now. The Rowan sole is not chunky, and I would argue it has the best boardfeel and grip between the 3. I would skate either 1010 or Rowan 2 over a dunk any day. The biggest differences between the Rowan and 1010 is the Rowan has a more flexible sole and pointier toe box, which is ideal for flip tricks. 1010 still feels like the highest quality and best structured shoe. Dunks feel like cardboard garbage. Break in time is comparable to a 1010 as well.
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Anyone able to compare the Rowan 2s to other cupsoles on the market (Dunks, NB 1010, etc)? That sole looks insanely chunky to me but I’m curious if it translates to 0 boardfeel or if there’s more going on than meets the eye.
https://www.weartested.com/vans-rowan-2/
https://www.weartested.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Bildschirmfoto-2023-11-06-um-20.59.43.png (https://www.weartested.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Bildschirmfoto-2023-11-06-um-20.59.43.png)
This pic makes the cup look a lot smaller than just a pic of the shoe. I steered away from these because how thick it looked.
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Anyone able to compare the Rowan 2s to other cupsoles on the market (Dunks, NB 1010, etc)? That sole looks insanely chunky to me but I’m curious if it translates to 0 boardfeel or if there’s more going on than meets the eye.
I really enjoy the Rowan 2 more than most cupsoles I've skated in recent memory. I think the closest comparison for overall feel is a jordan 1, but with better grip. I really hope it sticks around for awhile. Not nearly as narrow as it looks either. Fits my foot ideally, but obviously everyone is different.
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Love it, thanks all for the info. Was leaning towards another pair of 1010s or some 480s, but may give the Rowan 2s a shot instead.
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real question: if you buy a pair of half cabs, and only get a single shoe in the box, does that make it a quarter cab?
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i don't know
but quarter his age would get him to jail
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New authentic highs
https://rosestreetskateshop.com/products/vans-skate-authentic-high-navy-black
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Love it, thanks all for the info. Was leaning towards another pair of 1010s or some 480s, but may give the Rowan 2s a shot instead.
Same here. Thanks,Curb. Picking up a pair of Rowan 2 for my old feet/back/hips
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New authentic highs
https://rosestreetskateshop.com/products/vans-skate-authentic-high-navy-black
These look dope. I've only ever skated eras, is the only difference the padding around the heel?
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Love it, thanks all for the info. Was leaning towards another pair of 1010s or some 480s, but may give the Rowan 2s a shot instead.
Same here. Thanks,Curb. Picking up a pair of Rowan 2 for my old feet/back/hips
Hope you like them. I'm a fossil and my feet barely have any pain post session🙌
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I'm glad to hear the Rowan 2 isn't a flop, I see there's a spitfire collab out
I'm not big into wheel and truck company collab shoes but they look ok
I was just checking the Vans U.S. site and you guys got some cool colorways of the zahba mid too
All brown/gum and basically a triple black
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Love it, thanks all for the info. Was leaning towards another pair of 1010s or some 480s, but may give the Rowan 2s a shot instead.
Same here. Thanks,Curb. Picking up a pair of Rowan 2 for my old feet/back/hips
Hope you like them. I'm a fossil and my feet barely have any pain post session🙌
A couple days walking around at work and two sessions on the miniramp and no pain! I’m really digging these.
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I'm glad to hear the Rowan 2 isn't a flop, I see there's a spitfire collab out
I'm not big into wheel and truck company collab shoes but they look ok
They're pretty low key, no logos blasted everywhere; tho I would not have minded the heel counter graphic having some color to it.
Found an insole for arch support that works in them and really digging the shoe again. Hopefully some more/new colorways drop.
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Got a Nick Michel halfcab colorway for really cheap. Love that they got this trecking/hiking shoe vibe going.
It runs slightly smaller than other half cabs I had, which was a surprise - anyways great shoe
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I'm glad to hear the Rowan 2 isn't a flop, I see there's a spitfire collab out
I'm not big into wheel and truck company collab shoes but they look ok
They're pretty low key, no logos blasted everywhere; tho I would not have minded the heel counter graphic having some color to it.
Found an insole for arch support that works in them and really digging the shoe again. Hopefully some more/new colorways drop.
Yeah, I’m looking forward to more colorways, too. The chocolate/purpleish is the only one I really dig so far.
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I'm glad to hear the Rowan 2 isn't a flop, I see there's a spitfire collab out
I'm not big into wheel and truck company collab shoes but they look ok
They're pretty low key, no logos blasted everywhere; tho I would not have minded the heel counter graphic having some color to it.
Found an insole for arch support that works in them and really digging the shoe again. Hopefully some more/new colorways drop.
Yeah, I’m looking forward to more colorways, too. The chocolate/purpleish is the only one I really dig so far.
Same, but I settled for the black upper, white outsole; the pics of the chocolate don't help, they look really red like clay red/milk chocolate and no one has that colorway around here to see in 'real world lighting'.
(https://i.ibb.co/4Tqg8vk/IMG-3147.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4Tqg8vk)
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I'm glad to hear the Rowan 2 isn't a flop, I see there's a spitfire collab out
I'm not big into wheel and truck company collab shoes but they look ok
They're pretty low key, no logos blasted everywhere; tho I would not have minded the heel counter graphic having some color to it.
Found an insole for arch support that works in them and really digging the shoe again. Hopefully some more/new colorways drop.
Yeah, I’m looking forward to more colorways, too. The chocolate/purpleish is the only one I really dig so far.
Same, but I settled for the black upper, white outsole; the pics of the chocolate don't help, they look really red like clay red/milk chocolate and no one has that colorway around here to see in 'real world lighting'.
(https://i.ibb.co/4Tqg8vk/IMG-3147.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4Tqg8vk)
I have them and they look very close to that picture. There are a few new colorways on the Vans website.
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I'm glad to hear the Rowan 2 isn't a flop, I see there's a spitfire collab out
I'm not big into wheel and truck company collab shoes but they look ok
They're pretty low key, no logos blasted everywhere; tho I would not have minded the heel counter graphic having some color to it.
Found an insole for arch support that works in them and really digging the shoe again. Hopefully some more/new colorways drop.
Yeah, I’m looking forward to more colorways, too. The chocolate/purpleish is the only one I really dig so far.
Same, but I settled for the black upper, white outsole; the pics of the chocolate don't help, they look really red like clay red/milk chocolate and no one has that colorway around here to see in 'real world lighting'.
(https://i.ibb.co/4Tqg8vk/IMG-3147.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4Tqg8vk)
I have them and they look very close to that picture. There are a few new colorways on the Vans website.
The black and brown are cool but the spitfire collab look really nice.
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN0A2Z3I_BFM_ALT2?wid=800&hei=1004&fmt=jpeg&qlt=50&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.5,8,0)
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I'm glad to hear the Rowan 2 isn't a flop, I see there's a spitfire collab out
I'm not big into wheel and truck company collab shoes but they look ok
They're pretty low key, no logos blasted everywhere; tho I would not have minded the heel counter graphic having some color to it.
Found an insole for arch support that works in them and really digging the shoe again. Hopefully some more/new colorways drop.
Yeah, I’m looking forward to more colorways, too. The chocolate/purpleish is the only one I really dig so far.
Same, but I settled for the black upper, white outsole; the pics of the chocolate don't help, they look really red like clay red/milk chocolate and no one has that colorway around here to see in 'real world lighting'.
(https://i.ibb.co/4Tqg8vk/IMG-3147.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4Tqg8vk)
I have them and they look very close to that picture. There are a few new colorways on the Vans website.
The black and brown are cool but the spitfire collab look really nice.
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN0A2Z3I_BFM_ALT2?wid=800&hei=1004&fmt=jpeg&qlt=50&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.5,8,0)
This shoe looks like it has an underbite
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I'm glad to hear the Rowan 2 isn't a flop, I see there's a spitfire collab out
I'm not big into wheel and truck company collab shoes but they look ok
They're pretty low key, no logos blasted everywhere; tho I would not have minded the heel counter graphic having some color to it.
Found an insole for arch support that works in them and really digging the shoe again. Hopefully some more/new colorways drop.
Yeah, I’m looking forward to more colorways, too. The chocolate/purpleish is the only one I really dig so far.
Same, but I settled for the black upper, white outsole; the pics of the chocolate don't help, they look really red like clay red/milk chocolate and no one has that colorway around here to see in 'real world lighting'.
(https://i.ibb.co/4Tqg8vk/IMG-3147.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4Tqg8vk)
I have them and they look very close to that picture. There are a few new colorways on the Vans website.
The black and brown are cool but the spitfire collab look really nice.
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN0A2Z3I_BFM_ALT2?wid=800&hei=1004&fmt=jpeg&qlt=50&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.5,8,0)
"Now in REI stores across the continental US!"
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Are Rowan 2s worth the C-note? Those joints were calling me after I handled and tried them on today at my local Vans store.
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Are Rowan 2s worth the C-note? Those joints were calling me after I handled and tried them on today at my local Vans store.
I love mine.
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Bet
Imma buy 2 pairs
They have a nice toe & a cupsole
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New authentic highs
https://rosestreetskateshop.com/products/vans-skate-authentic-high-navy-black
These look dope. I've only ever skated eras, is the only difference the padding around the heel?
I want to say yes after years of skating both but I think the eras are slightly wider due to the padding? I’ve only skated the newer eras tho haven’t had any authentics since they upgraded the skate line a few years back. Dunno if the high changes that either but other than yeah it’s basically just the padding .
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New authentic highs
https://rosestreetskateshop.com/products/vans-skate-authentic-high-navy-black
These look dope. I've only ever skated eras, is the only difference the padding around the heel?
I want to say yes after years of skating both but I think the eras are slightly wider due to the padding? I’ve only skated the newer eras tho haven’t had any authentics since they upgraded the skate line a few years back. Dunno if the high changes that either but other than yeah it’s basically just the padding .
I have a pair of both and yeah padding around the heel is the only real difference. The padding makes it fit tighter in that area for me and my foot doesn't lift up quite as much. I have to size up a little because my feet are pretty wide and the Eras have less heel slip than the Authentics thanks to the padding in the heel area. The Authentics look a bit wider in the midfoot section but I have the Eras laced tighter so I think it's just that.
Authentic on the left, Era on the right.
(https://i.imgur.com/37fJp8i.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/36sGy12.jpg)
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seems like vans is going through an identity crisis. i think i'm pretty much unable to skate in their vulcs anymore. tried some basically brand new half cabs, my feet were aching for hours after. I'm really old though.
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seems like vans is going through an identity crisis. i think i'm pretty much unable to skate in their vulcs anymore. tried some basically brand new half cabs, my feet were aching for hours after. I'm really old though.
You know, nobody asked me to do so, but I kind of want to rant about this for a little bit.
In the last three years I've probably bought at least one of each Vans model. I've bought from every line they've made (regular, vault, skate). There's a few things I've figured out about Vans Skate:
Popcush is possibly the best and the worst thing that ever happened to Vans. A lot of shoes use this but many of the models use a poorer quality version of popcush that doesn't have the same density or firmness. How vans put pop cush in their shoes is part of the issue, because there is still not enough underfoot support from the waffle outsole due to how thin it is, and the rubber compound that Vans is using for their shoes is nowadays extremely soft, wears super quickly. My shoes from like five years ago are still in good condition with no visible wear, while my crockett quasi have already started to ball at the heel despite having only bought them in mid January. For me (I'm in my mid twenties), the shoes are comfortable enough for an everyday wear, but it feels like you're walking through sand or mud because of how mushy the insole is, and I can tell it sometimes actually negatively impacts my gait. The interior elastic strap placement is also never consistent. I've had shoes where one side was an inch higher than the other and I just end up cutting them. I don't know if the quality has dipped, but the QC is absolutely horrible nowadays for Vans. I've probably gotten four warranty claims approved in the last two years because of defective shoes (one shoe being a half size smaller than the other on the upper). I could spend five hours just ranting about Vans business model, it's unsustainability, their terrible marketing, but I think I'll just spare everyone anymore of that lmao. Almost shit my pants laughing
at the fact they put alva and geering on their front page for absolutely no reason.
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seems like vans is going through an identity crisis. i think i'm pretty much unable to skate in their vulcs anymore. tried some basically brand new half cabs, my feet were aching for hours after. I'm really old though.
Their stock price certainly back this up as they continue to fail to meet revenue projections.
They are spread too thin in the 'lifestyle' and failing in the core markets (Rowan 2 and Zhaba mid aside imo; both being the best shoes to come out of that house in years)
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https://shop-eat-surf.com/2024/02/sp-vf-will-need-to-sell-sizeable-brands-to-ease-debt-burden/
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Vans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083
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Anyone bought vans classics lately?(who doesn't hate vans) has the quality dropped significantly or anything?
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Vans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083
what a joke. sad!
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https://shop-eat-surf.com/2024/02/sp-vf-will-need-to-sell-sizeable-brands-to-ease-debt-burden/
Ouch.
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Vans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083
Hold up non-synth Rowley XLTs... Shame I can't get down with ANY of those colorways
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Anyone bought vans classics lately?(who doesn't hate vans) has the quality dropped significantly or anything?
I bought a pair of regular Eras a month or so ago. For a few years prior I was wearing Skate Customs in all suede. The last pair of Custom Skates fell apart pretty fast, and I didn't even skate in them. I figured for that price/quality I'll go back to regular Eras and put in some better insoles. So I tore out the insoles and put in some older UltraCush. I couldn't use PopCush insoles cause I had no room left for my toes. The regular Eras with Ultracush took a little bit of breaking in whereas the Custom Pro/Skate were comfy right out of the box. So I guess long winded way to say the regular ones seem pretty regular from what I remember? A little tighter than before maybe? We'll see how long they last. Unsure what I'll get next. Might abandon Vans and get sperry topsiders or some shit, and I've been wearing vans nearly exclusively for like 25 years.
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Anyone bought vans classics lately?(who doesn't hate vans) has the quality dropped significantly or anything?
I bought a pair of regular Eras a month or so ago. For a few years prior I was wearing Skate Customs in all suede. The last pair of Custom Skates fell apart pretty fast, and I didn't even skate in them. I figured for that price/quality I'll go back to regular Eras and put in some better insoles. So I tore out the insoles and put in some older UltraCush. I couldn't use PopCush insoles cause I had no room left for my toes. The regular Eras with Ultracush took a little bit of breaking in whereas the Custom Pro/Skate were comfy right out of the box. So I guess long winded way to say the regular ones seem pretty regular from what I remember? A little tighter than before maybe? We'll see how long they last. Unsure what I'll get next. Might abandon Vans and get sperry topsiders or some shit, and I've been wearing vans nearly exclusively for like 25 years.
Sick thanks. I'm like 65% vans for the last 25 years but I prob regret more than half of my non vans purchases.
Aus sites got a bunch of pig suedes for like 70% off I think I'll take the gamble. Funny I still run the insoles out of my TNT 2s from like 06 or something. I must have put 20k KMs on them and they still feel better than anything else and so far they fit into most classic vans once you rip the stock out (altho I actually like keeping the stock in for as long as possible)
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Hi yes I'd like one workwear-green half-shirt with blousy titty pockets please?
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Vans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083
Hold up non-synth Rowley XLTs... Shame I can't get down with ANY of those colorways
There are two new (normal) colorways of genuine suede/leather XLTs on the regular Vans site now
https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/rowley-xlt-shoe-pvn000ctmba2
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN000CTM_BA2_HERO)(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN000CTM_J92_HERO)
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https://shop-eat-surf.com/2024/02/sp-vf-will-need-to-sell-sizeable-brands-to-ease-debt-burden/
Ouch.
Cmon SLAP, let’s make VF an offer on Vans so it can be skater-owned again.
I got 5 on it.
Besides, I need a job anyway…
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https://shop-eat-surf.com/2024/02/sp-vf-will-need-to-sell-sizeable-brands-to-ease-debt-burden/
Ouch.
I got 5 on it.
Besides, I need a job anyway…
I'll throw 5 in as well. My job search isn't going great so I'll be TM and all decisions regarding who gets on and who gets of will be made through Slap polls.
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https://shop-eat-surf.com/2024/02/sp-vf-will-need-to-sell-sizeable-brands-to-ease-debt-burden/
Ouch.
I got 5 on it.
Besides, I need a job anyway…
I'll throw in five bucks if you add Half Cabs to the customs section of the website.
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(https://assets.vans.com/images/t_img/f_auto,h_940,w_752/v1707368661/VN000CNFARM-HERO/Premium-Sk8Hi-38-Reissue-Platform.png)
Can I request a part from someone in these??
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https://shop-eat-surf.com/2024/02/sp-vf-will-need-to-sell-sizeable-brands-to-ease-debt-burden/
Ouch.
I got 5 on it.
Besides, I need a job anyway…
I'll throw in five bucks if you add Half Cabs to the customs section of the website.
It’s on the first things to do list
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Vans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083
This is definitely one of those things people look back on in 5-10 years when they're writing an article about how Vans lost their way.
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Vans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083
This is definitely one of those things people look back on in 5-10 years when they're writing an article about how Vans lost their way.
They brought it out too early.
April 1st is still a way off yet.
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Anyone bought vans classics lately?(who doesn't hate vans) has the quality dropped significantly or anything?
I bought a pair of regular Eras a month or so ago. For a few years prior I was wearing Skate Customs in all suede. The last pair of Custom Skates fell apart pretty fast, and I didn't even skate in them. I figured for that price/quality I'll go back to regular Eras and put in some better insoles. So I tore out the insoles and put in some older UltraCush. I couldn't use PopCush insoles cause I had no room left for my toes. The regular Eras with Ultracush took a little bit of breaking in whereas the Custom Pro/Skate were comfy right out of the box. So I guess long winded way to say the regular ones seem pretty regular from what I remember? A little tighter than before maybe? We'll see how long they last. Unsure what I'll get next. Might abandon Vans and get sperry topsiders or some shit, and I've been wearing vans nearly exclusively for like 25 years.
Aus sites got a bunch of pig suedes for like 70% off I think I'll take the gamble. Funny I still run the insoles out of my TNT 2s from like 06 or something. I must have put 20k KMs on them and they still feel better than anything else and so far they fit into most classic vans once you rip the stock out (altho I actually like keeping the stock in for as long as possible)
This, completely me too!!!
I bought quite a few from the sales going on at the moment and the Classic versions are still good, if not a little funny in sizing for a few of them, feeling a bit big in some pairs actually, but I think the full suede versions of all those shoes are still really good and hold up better than the canvas sided regular Classic versions anyway.
Depending on whether they are the really new ones or just old stock, I noticed the really new ones are a bit more sticky in the gum sole as well, so maybe as someone had said they changed something to make it a bit softer, but either way they still grip like nothing else and I run plain Jessup, which is finer and needs less work anyway, compared to some other grip brands.
Also the insoles were glued in better and were harder to get out, but I am used to that too, so it just took a little more effort and these Old Skools, Sk8 Low and other styles are good to go for me.
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Vans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083
This is definitely one of those things people look back on in 5-10 years when they're writing an article about how Vans lost their way.
Who is the target demographic for the OTW line? It’s crazy that some of it is sold out.
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Vans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083
This is definitely one of those things people look back on in 5-10 years when they're writing an article about how Vans lost their way.
The funniest thing is that the vault line was already this type of shit. they just relaunched it with an inferior name. also why is the XLT is being marketed as a OTW shoe... nobody outside of skateboarding gives a shit. I'm going to write an angry letter to Vans' President about this, and offer my services.
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VF Corporate: "Vans, why are you losing money every quarter?
Vans:
(https://assets.vans.com/images/t_img/f_auto,h_1690,w_1352/v1707358404/VN000CNBSBR-HERO/OTW-Half-Cab-33-Vibram.png)
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hahahaha ^
I’m being very patient with my Rowan 2’s and I’m not in love with them. perhaps like most Vans they will be absolutely perfect for 3 weeks until they are completely dead.
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Seeing Vans make clothing/and shoes that are actually of quality is a breath of fresh air. Pretty much 90% of Vans clothing is super cheap.
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Vans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083
This is definitely one of those things people look back on in 5-10 years when they're writing an article about how Vans lost their way.
I was watching the Warriors vs Lakers game on Christmas Day and a woman sitting courtside had the Vans Rowley x Gallery Dept shoes on. I thought it was humorous and random. It was a couple decked out in full Gallery Dept head to toe so doubt they skate or know who Rowley is.
https://sneakernews.com/2023/11/07/gallery-dept-vans-rowley-xlt-release-date/
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Vans just relaunched their Vault line as "OTW" and there's a lot of trash
https://otw.vans.com/en-us/c/otw-90083
Hold up non-synth Rowley XLTs... Shame I can't get down with ANY of those colorways
https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/rowley-xlt-shoe-pvn000ctmba2
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN000CTM_BA2_HERO)(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN000CTM_J92_HERO)
The cream ones seem to actually be suede but those black and white ones most certainly are not regardless of that description on the site. The texture on the black ones match the Dime releases. Pretty pumped that select colors are going to be suede though. Thanks for passing along.
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Wanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.
The sole does feel like one of the better attempts at a cupsole in recent years, and not a glorified vulc via waffle cup. I know they'll work for some people though!
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Wanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.
The sole does feel like one of the better attempts at a cupsole in recent years, and not a glorified vulc via waffle cup. I know they'll work for some people though!
Yeah toe box is narrow ime. I too wear an 11.5 in everything and they felt a half size small. Didn’t try on a 12 tho.
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Wanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.
FWIW I've got narrow feet with some bigass toes, and I've found the AVEs to be one of the best shoes for my oddly shaped foot.
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Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.
FWIW I've got narrow feet with some bigass toes, and I've found the AVEs to be one of the best shoes for my oddly shaped foot.
I do kinda miss my AVEs. They were better than I realized when I had them. The mesh was too ubiquitous so I sold/ditched the ones I owned early and moved on to other shoes.
Wonder if the new AVE will redeem those mesh issues and fit well in the toe box like his previous one.
Stoked they worked for you! You still holding on to any pairs as they're phased(phasing?) out now
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Wanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.
FWIW I've got narrow feet with some bigass toes, and I've found the AVEs to be one of the best shoes for my oddly shaped foot.
I do kinda miss my AVEs. They were better than I realized when I had them. The mesh was too ubiquitous so I sold/ditched the ones I owned early and moved on to other shoes.
Wonder if the new AVE will redeem those mesh issues and fit well in the toe box like his previous one.
Stoked they worked for you! You still holding on to any pairs as they're phased(phasing?) out now
haha yup. Got three or four pairs in the basement, including two Beatrice. I almost bought more when I saw that a new AVE was coming, but I've prohibited myself from acquiring more skate gear.
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Wanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.
FWIW I've got narrow feet with some bigass toes, and I've found the AVEs to be one of the best shoes for my oddly shaped foot.
I do kinda miss my AVEs. They were better than I realized when I had them. The mesh was too ubiquitous so I sold/ditched the ones I owned early and moved on to other shoes.
Wonder if the new AVE will redeem those mesh issues and fit well in the toe box like his previous one.
Stoked they worked for you! You still holding on to any pairs as they're phased(phasing?) out now
haha yup. Got three or four pairs in the basement, including two Beatrice. I almost bought more when I saw that a new AVE was coming, but I've prohibited myself from acquiring more skate gear.
Sweet! May they last you as long as possible until the nest AVE is out and is affordable to buy!
In other Vans news, I checked out those Speed LS models that we saw photos of awhile back. They're in Vans stores now. Regular line and not SKATE sooo none of the tech, but they don't look terrible. That brown color is probably the best of the three.
However, they have the same sole as the SKATE Fairlane. I have never had the SKATE Fairlane, so I can't compare if the Speed LS sole is the exact same durometer or not. Though, they look identical.
The Speed LS has a real soft feel to the rubber, spongey and squishy under your feet. Good board feel probably but I don't know how durable or protective that sole is based on what I felt. Maybe the SKATE version of that sole is firmer + more supportive with the pop cush on the Fairlane?
Anyone in here had the SKATE Fairlane of recent years and can weigh in on how it feels?
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Wanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.
FWIW I've got narrow feet with some bigass toes, and I've found the AVEs to be one of the best shoes for my oddly shaped foot.
I do kinda miss my AVEs. They were better than I realized when I had them. The mesh was too ubiquitous so I sold/ditched the ones I owned early and moved on to other shoes.
Wonder if the new AVE will redeem those mesh issues and fit well in the toe box like his previous one.
Stoked they worked for you! You still holding on to any pairs as they're phased(phasing?) out now
haha yup. Got three or four pairs in the basement, including two Beatrice. I almost bought more when I saw that a new AVE was coming, but I've prohibited myself from acquiring more skate gear.
Sweet! May they last you as long as possible until the nest AVE is out and is affordable tobuy a!
In other Vans news, I checked out those Speed LS models that we saw photos of awhile back. They're in Vans stores now. Regular line and not SKATE sooo none of the tech, but they don't look terrible. That brown color is probably the best of the three.
However, they have the same sole as the SKATE Fairlane. I have never had the SKATE Fairlane, so I can't compare if the Speed LS sole is the exact same durometer or not. Though, they look identical.
The Speed LS has a real soft feel to the rubber, spongey and squishy under your feet. Good board feel probably but I don't know how durable or protective that sole is based on what I felt. Maybe the SKATE version of that sole is firmer + more supportive with the pop cush on the Fairlane?
Anyone in here had the SKATE Fairlane of recent years and can weigh in on how it feels?
The Speed’s don’t have Popcush so that’s already a plus in my book. I had the normal Fairlines and they fit and felt really good, Skate versions were too tight when tried on.
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Wanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.
FWIW I've got narrow feet with some bigass toes, and I've found the AVEs to be one of the best shoes for my oddly shaped foot.
I do kinda miss my AVEs. They were better than I realized when I had them. The mesh was too ubiquitous so I sold/ditched the ones I owned early and moved on to other shoes.
Wonder if the new AVE will redeem those mesh issues and fit well in the toe box like his previous one.
Stoked they worked for you! You still holding on to any pairs as they're phased(phasing?) out now
haha yup. Got three or four pairs in the basement, including two Beatrice. I almost bought more when I saw that a new AVE was coming, but I've prohibited myself from acquiring more skate gear.
Sweet! May they last you as long as possible until the nest AVE is out and is affordable tobuy a!
In other Vans news, I checked out those Speed LS models that we saw photos of awhile back. They're in Vans stores now. Regular line and not SKATE sooo none of the tech, but they don't look terrible. That brown color is probably the best of the three.
However, they have the same sole as the SKATE Fairlane. I have never had the SKATE Fairlane, so I can't compare if the Speed LS sole is the exact same durometer or not. Though, they look identical.
The Speed LS has a real soft feel to the rubber, spongey and squishy under your feet. Good board feel probably but I don't know how durable or protective that sole is based on what I felt. Maybe the SKATE version of that sole is firmer + more supportive with the pop cush on the Fairlane?
Anyone in here had the SKATE Fairlane of recent years and can weigh in on how it feels?
Honestly considering buying these to fill that 90s cupsole-shaped hole in my heart. How do they feel versus other shoes, like the rap/accel or any of the other retros we've had lately?
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I finally starting wearing my pair of the Paradoxxx that I had on ice since 2019 lol. I've been walking to and from work to break in the cupsole. It's been well over 15 years since I last wore a cupsole, but this one is feeling good. Gonna start skating them this week and I'm really excited to try them. It's such a nice looking shoe, simple silhouette and nice lines wit the stitching, not techy, the old school Vans logo. It's a damn shame Vans let this one go, because it's one of their best designs in the last decade IMO.
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Wanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.
FWIW I've got narrow feet with some bigass toes, and I've found the AVEs to be one of the best shoes for my oddly shaped foot.
I do kinda miss my AVEs. They were better than I realized when I had them. The mesh was too ubiquitous so I sold/ditched the ones I owned early and moved on to other shoes.
Wonder if the new AVE will redeem those mesh issues and fit well in the toe box like his previous one.
Stoked they worked for you! You still holding on to any pairs as they're phased(phasing?) out now
haha yup. Got three or four pairs in the basement, including two Beatrice. I almost bought more when I saw that a new AVE was coming, but I've prohibited myself from acquiring more skate gear.
Sweet! May they last you as long as possible until the nest AVE is out and is affordable tobuy a!
In other Vans news, I checked out those Speed LS models that we saw photos of awhile back. They're in Vans stores now. Regular line and not SKATE sooo none of the tech, but they don't look terrible. That brown color is probably the best of the three.
However, they have the same sole as the SKATE Fairlane. I have never had the SKATE Fairlane, so I can't compare if the Speed LS sole is the exact same durometer or not. Though, they look identical.
The Speed LS has a real soft feel to the rubber, spongey and squishy under your feet. Good board feel probably but I don't know how durable or protective that sole is based on what I felt. Maybe the SKATE version of that sole is firmer + more supportive with the pop cush on the Fairlane?
Anyone in here had the SKATE Fairlane of recent years and can weigh in on how it feels?
They feel pretty solid as far as materials, paneling, etc. go. In hand & on foot, I wasnt disappointed at all. It's a shoe I'm tempted to try for sure. The insole is glued in like Classic Vans, so thats either a plus or a negative depending on aftermarket insole needs or not.
The tongue is pretty puffy, but feels like it will mold to your foot much better than an Accel OG tongue. Personally, I'd say the Rap is better (if it had better colors and removed that heel logo on the low) since that sole is a good middle ground between thick for protection and thin for boardfeel. That's also because I don't like my soles to feel as soft/squishy/broken in as these do. Others may actually enjoy this quality, so they could definitely be a winner for Vans vulc fans wanting to move into cupsoles.
The Rap/Accel look simpler, where this is definitely 90s simple/early 2000s tech blending together. More going on in the upper but in solid colors (black/white & brown) it's less noticeable.
TL;DR - they feel like a solid attempt at a retro/reimagining of 90s/2000s shoes. Looks designed well and feels comfortable enough. Are they worth $90? That remains to be seen.
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I finally starting wearing my pair of the Paradoxxx that I had on ice since 2019 lol. I've been walking to and from work to break in the cupsole. It's been well over 15 years since I last wore a cupsole, but this one is feeling good. Gonna start skating them this week and I'm really excited to try them. It's such a nice looking shoe, simple silhouette and nice lines wit the stitching, not techy, the old school Vans logo. It's a damn shame Vans let this one go, because it's one of their best designs in the last decade IMO.
Those are some solid shoes! Bummed they discontinued them also. I found a pair that was 0.5 size too big for me (and didn't know it when buying) since it was labeled wrong at a Nordstrom Rack store. Felt fine at first but were too roomy once I actually started wearing them around. Ended up passing them to a homie. He fuckin loves them! Ever since he told me, I would check randomly at stores and online with no luck. Go figure! When you find a grail, it's discontinued or about to be discontinued :(
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Wanna share that I tried on Rowan 2s and boy is that toebox narrow! Had to try a 12 when I'm normally an 11 or 11.5 in most Vans. Even in a 12 where length started to be too much, the width still wasn't wide enough. Anyone else have the same experience?
Also, if you have bunions or pronounced big toe bones, these aren't built to be as forgiving up there as Crocketts, Rowan 1s, KWalks, Sk8 Hi, and even AVEs (surprisingly) are. Which I've all skated with minimal issues with their toeboxes. Not sure how anyone can say the Rowan 2 is wide, when it doesn't feel or look like it.
FWIW I've got narrow feet with some bigass toes, and I've found the AVEs to be one of the best shoes for my oddly shaped foot.
I do kinda miss my AVEs. They were better than I realized when I had them. The mesh was too ubiquitous so I sold/ditched the ones I owned early and moved on to other shoes.
Wonder if the new AVE will redeem those mesh issues and fit well in the toe box like his previous one.
Stoked they worked for you! You still holding on to any pairs as they're phased(phasing?) out now
haha yup. Got three or four pairs in the basement, including two Beatrice. I almost bought more when I saw that a new AVE was coming, but I've prohibited myself from acquiring more skate gear.
Sweet! May they last you as long as possible until the nest AVE is out and is affordable to buy!
In other Vans news, I checked out those Speed LS models that we saw photos of awhile back. They're in Vans stores now. Regular line and not SKATE sooo none of the tech, but they don't look terrible. That brown color is probably the best of the three.
However, they have the same sole as the SKATE Fairlane. I have never had the SKATE Fairlane, so I can't compare if the Speed LS sole is the exact same durometer or not. Though, they look identical.
The Speed LS has a real soft feel to the rubber, spongey and squishy under your feet. Good board feel probably but I don't know how durable or protective that sole is based on what I felt. Maybe the SKATE version of that sole is firmer + more supportive with the pop cush on the Fairlane?
Anyone in here had the SKATE Fairlane of recent years and can weigh in on how it feels?
There is another shoe in the same position that seems to be coming out soon called the “Hylane”. Found these pictures of them online
https://www.littleburgundyshoes.com/product/vans-womens-hylane-sneakers-in-white-31990627 (https://www.littleburgundyshoes.com/product/vans-womens-hylane-sneakers-in-white-31990627)
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Looking like a Fairlaine with a second sole glued on^
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Looking like a Fairlaine with a second sole glued on^
Comfort stacked on comfort.
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Cab getting payyyyyyed!
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Checked out the OTW Vans today. It looks like their new lineup is using an insole that is very very similar to the popcush, if not the exact same. Looks like they're putting out some nice retro-styled Half Cabs. Might be worth trying.
https://shop-us.doverstreetmarket.com/products/vans-half-cab-reissue-33-aluolive-vn000cr7cl3-ss24?variant=41367763517702&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiArfauBhApEiwAeoB7qDgNafPN97lG52-v_hkgclAJEIDTIgRmkEURbqtNQizD1lDordHijhoCDrsQAvD_BwE
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I enjoy not looking at this thread for weeks and coming back to a new abomination when I open it….so in that aspect.. vans is killing it
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“ For those that aren’t aware the Safe Low is a new vulcanized skate shoe initially designed in partnership with Palace. The shoe was inspired by our iconic skate silhouettes of the Half Cab and MC 96’”
(https://i.ibb.co/ZfbPG8L/IMG-5974.png) (https://ibb.co/ZfbPG8L)
https://skateparkoftampa.com/product/96143/Vans_Danny_Brady_Blue_Sky_Safe_Low_Shoes/&CID=17635
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“ For those that aren’t aware the Safe Low is a new vulcanized skate shoe initially designed in partnership with Palace. The shoe was inspired by our iconic skate silhouettes of the Half Cab and MC 96’”
(https://i.ibb.co/ZfbPG8L/IMG-5974.png) (https://ibb.co/ZfbPG8L)
I think that name is dumb but I don't hate that shoe
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i agree that's a dumb name. but the shoe looks real nice
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because the vulc Rowans aren't close enough to a half-cab, or?
the sock liner deal looks real dumb
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Yeah, I don't think these needed to exist. Name is dumb.
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Beatrice was skating the new AVE’s on her story. I forgot to screenshot and it’s already expired. No up close pics it was just her skating that Vans park in NY.
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Bluetile posted a video with some dark red chukkas that look very nice
My apologies for not embedding but most of you would know where to find it
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Beatrice was skating the new AVE’s on her story. I forgot to screenshot and it’s already expired. No up close pics it was just her skating that Vans park in NY.
We got them in a couple of weeks ago, would have pulled the trigger on some but they’re just too expensive. The black ones look the better of the two, as the vans stripe is just a glorified sticker it looks cheap on the white ones.
Not sure if I like them or not.
Fit true to size for me as well.
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Beatrice was skating the new AVE’s on her story. I forgot to screenshot and it’s already expired. No up close pics it was just her skating that Vans park in NY.
We got them in a couple of weeks ago, would have pulled the trigger on some but they’re just too expensive. The black ones look the better of the two, as the vans stripe is just a glorified sticker it looks cheap on the white ones.
Not sure if I like them or not.
Fit true to size for me as well.
What's the MSRP? Also, popcush or something else?
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Beatrice was skating the new AVE’s on her story. I forgot to screenshot and it’s already expired. No up close pics it was just her skating that Vans park in NY.
We got them in a couple of weeks ago, would have pulled the trigger on some but they’re just too expensive. The black ones look the better of the two, as the vans stripe is just a glorified sticker it looks cheap on the white ones.
Not sure if I like them or not.
Fit true to size for me as well.
Not popcush, it’s ’ultimate Waffle’
Retail is like $130-140
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Beatrice was skating the new AVE’s on her story. I forgot to screenshot and it’s already expired. No up close pics it was just her skating that Vans park in NY.
We got them in a couple of weeks ago, would have pulled the trigger on some but they’re just too expensive. The black ones look the better of the two, as the vans stripe is just a glorified sticker it looks cheap on the white ones.
Not sure if I like them or not.
Fit true to size for me as well.
Not popcush, it’s ’ultimate Waffle’
Retail is like $130-140
Good god, they're going to get killed with this. This is the most expensive Vans skate shoe out, right?
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Bluetile posted a video with some dark red chukkas that look very nice
My apologies for not embedding but most of you would know where to find it
Red chukkas look really good in person
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Those are truly awful and if that’s what Vans is gonna be giving us instead of the AVE 2.0 that were already teased I’ll be severely disappointed.
(https://i.ibb.co/ZGsNWTw/1000003584.jpg)
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those are hilarious
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These are some samples from a year ago and they were surprisingly good. The shoe has been updated since then. I don't believe these are the finished product that comes out in a few weeks.
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If vans can skatify the cruze too. I'll buy those in a heartbeat. Ave's shoe before the rapidweld bullshit was such a good looking and good skating shoe.
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from Beatrice's twitter.. kinda looks like it has that stinky sock liner collar still
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These are some samples from a year ago and they were surprisingly good. The shoe has been updated since then. I don't believe these are the finished product that comes out in a few weeks.
These are the finished product 😬
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https://imgur.com/3auNbQ2
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The AVE shoes confuse me. Why do they do this shoe for him all crazy tech but never did something like that for the boss? Also at what point did they decide to make AVEs shoes the most techy wild looking vans out there?
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Vans has officially gone in the shitter
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Why would you even release a shoe if that's what it ends up being? Like it's changed so much from the original that it's barely the same shoe. It's just a AVE with an integrated sock
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If the AVE shoe doesn’t sell, or only sells on clearance, how long will Vans keep pumping out colorways? That shoe is already unappealing without the $130 price tag.
They better keep releasing colorways of the Rowley XLT. Whenever they stop, I’m going back to NB#.
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Damn I was looking forward to getting the AVE 2s from that original catalog picture. Would have been the first new model of Vans since like the original TNT pro model WAY back in the day. That release model is terrible.
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I feel like what might be happening with the ave 2 is a higher priced(hopefully the 130 price tag one) that is fancy mesh, and then a more reasonable mainline version(the one in the spec picture) for hopefully somewhere in the 110 neighborhood. Pure speculation but that makes sense to me. I mean, they had those weird ultra knit mega waffle ave 1s and I am too remember them being like 120 initially.
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The AVE shoes confuse me. Why do they do this shoe for him all crazy tech but never did something like that for the boss? Also at what point did they decide to make AVEs shoes the most techy wild looking vans out there?
Because AVE has been a rider for 20 years and Vans likes to have lifers on the team and Reynolds they were basically hooking up because he pursued them so hard
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The AVE shoes confuse me. Why do they do this shoe for him all crazy tech but never did something like that for the boss?
Especially when you consider each's relevancy these days. FA is Dill, not AVE.
Guessing contracts....sure, he rips but does he deserve a shoe for this long?
They need to re-think how they hand out shoe deals. What's Crockett done lately? Ave? Sure you keep Cab, Grosso, Rowley...but surely Lizzie's shoe has run it's course? Rowan is still selling and no one cares about Zahba colorways...especially that front shuv version...I'm curious if they do 2 versions these days and that's it (i.e., no Rowan 3 or AVE 3...tho TECHNICALLY we had the AVE, then the Rapid Weld AVE.
It's no wonder Vans is having a tough time..
(https://i.ibb.co/FBGByWC/Screenshot-2024-03-07-151327.png) (https://ibb.co/FBGByWC)
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These are some samples from a year ago and they were surprisingly good. The shoe has been updated since then. I don't believe these are the finished product that comes out in a few weeks.
Well, those look disappointing. The shoe itself doesn’t look terrible but I could do without the neon midsole and the knit collar. That model in the catalog looked slightly better. And for $130+ I will definitely not be buying those. Not sure I’d even buy them for $90. Now I’m pretty bummed I passed on a pair of $35 AVE Pros at Ross recently.
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those are hilarious
What is more hilarious is people still spending money on Vans
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What is more hilarious is people still spending money on Vans
Rowan 1 & 2, Half Cabs, KWalks (1 not the slip abomination), and Crocketts are all decent choices to spend money on. To each their own, though
That said, I'm not spending money on them anymore, unless it's a gift for a friend's birthday from their outlet rack
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It's no wonder Vans is having a tough time..
(https://i.ibb.co/FBGByWC/Screenshot-2024-03-07-151327.png) (https://ibb.co/FBGByWC)
that shoe makes their tough time way less tough
it sells like hot cakes
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Ave 2 is fucking worse that aanyone could imagine
https://www.instagram.com/stories/ave/3323775593593314354?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=OGg0eWx4eXltdDNq
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If they don’t release the one with the proper padded upper I will be severely disappointed. Vans deserves to fail if this is truly the best they have to offer us.
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Hahaha wow. Those Aves are straight ass. Vans, PLEASE JUST GIVE US MORE MIKE CARROLL COLORWAYS. I KNOW YALL ARE HOLDING.
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JUST FUCKING DO IT VANS
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They really should just focus on doing interesting colorways and materials on the classics. All these tech vans are awful.
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It's no wonder Vans is having a tough time..
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that shoe makes their tough time way less tough
it sells like hot cakes
Say no to puffy Vans. The Knu Skool and Fairlane should have stayed in/and died along with the 90s.
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
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The Ave 2.0 look pretty bad, but they feel/skate pretty nice.
Only reason I changed back to my old shoes was the (obvious before and after using them) lack of protection on the top of your foot.
Sometimes I’ll give my board a nudge with that part of my foot, did it once in these and realised I don’t really want to wear a shoe that makes me have to change the way I have to skate.
Probably a good summer shoe for a skatepark which I don’t think was the intention in creating this shoe.
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Things could be looking up over at Vans. Atiba is the new Brand Curator
https://www.instagram.com/p/C4tO9gAgjQr/?igsh=a3djZXhhcmxlb3k5
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They really should just focus on doing interesting colorways and materials on the classics. All these tech vans are awful.
Remember the nike koston 3? Vans sure doesn't.
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Things could be looking up over at Vans. Atiba is the new Brand Curator
https://www.instagram.com/p/C4tO9gAgjQr/?igsh=a3djZXhhcmxlb3k5
Damn. We might actually see good looking and skating shoes outta vans...(I am a fan of the zhaba mid and rowan 2 however).
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Say no to puffy Vans. The Knu Skool and Fairlane should have stayed in/and died along with the 90s.
Knu Skool is one of the ugliest shoes ever made but the Fairlane actually isn't puffy at all. It's a super good shape good cupsole shoe. If anything Vans blew it by not pushing that thing harder. It's like a good Accell or an Etnies Rap.
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(https://i.ibb.co/PQyvPVy/Screenshot-2024-03-19-133222.png) (https://ibb.co/PQyvPVy)
EDIT: didn't see this post but now you don't have to click to see the ugly and suffer
Ave 2 is fucking worse that aanyone could imagine
https://www.instagram.com/stories/ave/3323775593593314354?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igsh=OGg0eWx4eXltdDNq
@Atiba Punch the fools that approved that all yella colorway in the fucking throat or balls, your choice.
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So anyone have word if the first promo of the ave 2 with the upper with actual tongue and padding is gonna be released?
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Is retail on the ave 2 still supposed to be 130?
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C4tO9gAgjQr/?igsh=MTVqZDJyaW9pOGR6YQ==
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Those Ave 2s look like a fire HIIT and crossfit shoes, mesh upper and all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr9WWe5rM2U
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that yellow sole :-\
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr9WWe5rM2U
These ain’t it.
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that yellow sole :-\
Them really pushing the see through foam is really annoying.
I like the shoe but I'm sure the non-knit will do better
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Anyone else seeing the banner add with Cab for remind insoles?
Hey What about the pop cush ??
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Anyone else seeing the banner add with Cab for remind insoles?
Hey What about the pop cush ??
I guess Steve doesn't get paid enough by his other sponsors...
Vans and Powell pretty much it these days?
What are his other sponsors again?
Somebody needs to remind me.
Never mind.
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"Additional kinda TPU heel counter"
What? Who is this guy, a designer at Vans? Kinda TPU counter? Well is it or isn't?
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
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I keep getting these on my IG ads. It's a girls shoe.
https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN000CTN_BP6_HERO?wid=1600&hei=1984&fmt=jpeg&qlt=90&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.7,8,0 (https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN000CTN_BP6_HERO?wid=1600&hei=1984&fmt=jpeg&qlt=90&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.7,8,0)
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I keep getting these on my IG ads. It's a girls shoe.
https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN000CTN_BP6_HERO?wid=1600&hei=1984&fmt=jpeg&qlt=90&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.7,8,0 (https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN000CTN_BP6_HERO?wid=1600&hei=1984&fmt=jpeg&qlt=90&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.7,8,0)
It's a unisex shoe: Speed LS that they just released. Uses the same sole as the Fairlane. Some colors may be geared towards girls/women, but most colors are standard
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
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If those AVE 2s didn’t have that sock/knit thing or ugly mismatched yellow foam on full display, they’d be aight.
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
I think it comes down to Rowan designing the shoe he wanted and Elijah not doing so.
What I find weird about the new AVE is ad copy calling it his 3rd pro model. I guess they’re retconning all those enhanced classic models out of their history, bc there was def a AV6
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If those AVE 2s didn’t have that sock/knit thing or ugly mismatched yellow foam on full display, they’d be aight.
Perhaps a better color way could change some hearts and minds.
There’s no colorway that can save it. Vans, who are beloved for their simplicity yet keep trying to make a running shoe for skateboarding are blowing it. Who’s even asking for a new Ave shoe in 2024? I hardly saw anyone wear the original ones (which were grossly overpriced) and AVE isn’t out here getting clips or doing much of anything that I can tell. Why not focus on building a new silhouette around someone relevant? I say this as someone who was a fan of AVE the active pro skater before he went behind the curtain. Unless I’m missing something, who are these even for?
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reissue the AV classic high
tbh just give the style 238 the "skate" treatment and i'll consider buying them at full price
these vaults with the cons lunarlon insoles in them were **chef's kiss** **raccoon emoji**
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0408/9909/files/Vans_Vault_OG_Style_238_LX_Old_Skool_LX_-_Feature-LV-3645_1024x1024.jpg?v=1507145128)
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
I think it comes down to Rowan designing the shoe he wanted and Elijah not doing so.
What I find weird about the new AVE is ad copy calling it his 3rd pro model. I guess they’re retconning all those enhanced classic models out of their history, bc there was def a AV6
This shit happens so much and I have no idea why. TNT had two different TNT 3s. Ave already had a shoe called the ave 3. Even without the all the classics it would be the ave 6 at my best count. (Ave 2,3,6, rapidweld, last new one, this one)
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
I think it comes down to Rowan designing the shoe he wanted and Elijah not doing so.
What I find weird about the new AVE is ad copy calling it his 3rd pro model. I guess they’re retconning all those enhanced classic models out of their history, bc there was def a AV6
I liked the one that looked like an Era that got stung by a bee.
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
I think it comes down to Rowan designing the shoe he wanted and Elijah not doing so.
What I find weird about the new AVE is ad copy calling it his 3rd pro model. I guess they’re retconning all those enhanced classic models out of their history, bc there was def a AV6
I liked the one that looked like an Era that got stung by a bee.
(https://i.ibb.co/BjkbtK2/IMG-2960.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BjkbtK2)
Yep, AV6. I wanted those so bad, but when I tried them on there was enough room for another set of toes on top of my toes in the shoe. Bummed me out.
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Oops, I think you meant these; AVEra 1.5
(https://i.ibb.co/9tLnDkY/IMG-2961.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9tLnDkY)
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
I think it comes down to Rowan designing the shoe he wanted and Elijah not doing so.
What I find weird about the new AVE is ad copy calling it his 3rd pro model. I guess they’re retconning all those enhanced classic models out of their history, bc there was def a AV6
I liked the one that looked like an Era that got stung by a bee.
Yep, AV6. I wanted those so bad, but when I tried them on there was enough room for another set of toes on top of my toes in the shoe. Bummed me out.
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Oops, I think you meant these; AVEra 1.5
(https://i.ibb.co/9tLnDkY/IMG-2961.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9tLnDkY)
Wasn’t that his first model when he got on Vans?
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
I think it comes down to Rowan designing the shoe he wanted and Elijah not doing so.
What I find weird about the new AVE is ad copy calling it his 3rd pro model. I guess they’re retconning all those enhanced classic models out of their history, bc there was def a AV6
I liked the one that looked like an Era that got stung by a bee.
Yep, AV6. I wanted those so bad, but when I tried them on there was enough room for another set of toes on top of my toes in the shoe. Bummed me out.
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Oops, I think you meant these; AVEra 1.5
(https://i.ibb.co/9tLnDkY/IMG-2961.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9tLnDkY)
Bingo, those AVEra 1.5s were the one I was thinking of. Lots of slim fit jeans going right into those puffy monstrosities at the park back in the day. I also had a set of the AVE Sk8 Lows with the snakeskin print - very funny, but foot destroyers for sure.
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
Is it common for pros to not wear their own shoes? Decks I get...Nyjah, Ishod, Nora, Lizzie, Foy...list goes on, always in their own shoes.
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
Is it common for pros to not wear their own shoes? Decks I get...Nyjah, Ishod, Nora, Lizzie, Foy...list goes on, always in their own shoes.
Busenitz seems to only skate in the Busenitz Vulcs not the Busenitz Pros.
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
Is it common for pros to not wear their own shoes? Decks I get...Nyjah, Ishod, Nora, Lizzie, Foy...list goes on, always in their own shoes.
Busenitz, Puig, Alexis, Louie, Jon Dickson, Leo are a few more that I can think of.
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Busenitz in the vulcs only has been new.
AVE had some footage in his early pro models for sure and the AV6. I loved his AV3 pro model but he never skated those.
Then the “AV4” and “AV5” were some weird mall shoes with weird names and not pushed by him or Vans in skate mags at all. They did the classic DC-style technique where they used words that’s started with “Ave-“ as names. I only remember seeing they were his pro models by reading their descriptions on the Vans website. I guess they wanted to give him some good checks? I can’t seem to find photos of those anywhere anymore but used to be able to. They were bad but not any worse than any other ones of those kinds of shoes. Kids would probably love them today tbh
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
I think it comes down to Rowan designing the shoe he wanted and Elijah not doing so.
What I find weird about the new AVE is ad copy calling it his 3rd pro model. I guess they’re retconning all those enhanced classic models out of their history, bc there was def a AV6
I liked the one that looked like an Era that got stung by a bee.
Yep, AV6. I wanted those so bad, but when I tried them on there was enough room for another set of toes on top of my toes in the shoe. Bummed me out.
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Oops, I think you meant these; AVEra 1.5
(https://i.ibb.co/9tLnDkY/IMG-2961.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9tLnDkY)
Bingo, those AVEra 1.5s were the one I was thinking of. Lots of slim fit jeans going right into those puffy monstrosities at the park back in the day. I also had a set of the AVE Sk8 Lows with the snakeskin print - very funny, but foot destroyers for sure.
The first ave shoe was just the avera and it was a potato. Then they tweaked it a bit to be a little less puffy but mostly the same. The avera 1.5 was years later and not that puffy. Funny I dug out a pair of the ave sk8 lows recently (just checker board tho not cool print) and compared to modern vulcs they could be a pair of lebrons
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
Fair point, I can count on 1 hand the amount of times I've seen him in his last shoe
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Busenitz in the vulcs only has been new.
AVE had some footage in his early pro models for sure and the AV6. I loved his AV3 pro model but he never skated those.
Then the “AV4” and “AV5” were some weird mall shoes with weird names and not pushed by him or Vans in skate mags at all. They did the classic DC-style technique where they used words that’s started with “Ave-“ as names. I only remember seeing they were his pro models by reading their descriptions on the Vans website. I guess they wanted to give him some good checks? I can’t seem to find photos of those anywhere anymore but used to be able to. They were bad but not any worse than any other ones of those kinds of shoes. Kids would probably love them today tbh
I still have quite a few pairs of AVE shoes, but without going through the boxes, a few names come to mind that I have or had.
The Av5 or 6 as pic above - looked like an era with extra up top and a super high toe.
AV Sk8 low(first ones) in all black upper, although they came in a million different side print materials too, but these were my favourites for a long time.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/194719773157
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NrkAAOSwwC9h2gm~/s-l1600.jpg)
AV Native, sort of like the reissue Sk8 hi with the smaller side bit
https://sneakernews.com/2012/08/26/vans-av-native-american-low/
AVE Skate Classic, a super thin canvas shoe with rubber underlay, almost Authentic thin all over
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145262079186
I have more, but that will do.
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Anyone ever fuck with the original AV3? I had like four pairs when they first came out. Kinda like Vans tried to do a sporty retro football shoe or a slight gazelle and actually pulled it off. Wish they would remake these
(https://i.ibb.co/v1DbYkv/F6-F17692-0717-4949-BDBA-334-F42-CAD4-D5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zsN1JZH)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZfRscNQ/B379-F5-B3-D5-DE-4-FF0-AD8-C-63-A7-BFB5-B1-ED.webp) (https://imgbb.com/)
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Busenitz in the vulcs only has been new.
AVE had some footage in his early pro models for sure and the AV6. I loved his AV3 pro model but he never skated those.
Then the “AV4” and “AV5” were some weird mall shoes with weird names and not pushed by him or Vans in skate mags at all. They did the classic DC-style technique where they used words that’s started with “Ave-“ as names. I only remember seeing they were his pro models by reading their descriptions on the Vans website. I guess they wanted to give him some good checks? I can’t seem to find photos of those anywhere anymore but used to be able to. They were bad but not any worse than any other ones of those kinds of shoes. Kids would probably love them today tbh
I still have quite a few pairs of AVE shoes, but without going through the boxes, a few names come to mind that I have or had.
The Av5 or 6 as pic above - looked like an era with extra up top and a super high toe.
AV Sk8 low(first ones) in all black upper, although they came in a million different side print materials too, but these were my favourites for a long time.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/194719773157
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NrkAAOSwwC9h2gm~/s-l1600.jpg)
AV Native, sort of like the reissue Sk8 hi with the smaller side bit
https://sneakernews.com/2012/08/26/vans-av-native-american-low/
AVE Skate Classic, a super thin canvas shoe with rubber underlay, almost Authentic thin all over
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145262079186
I have more, but that will do.
The burgundy/white, navy/white and black/white for me; many, many pairs.
Wish the latest ones still came with no stripe…
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Busenitz in the vulcs only has been new.
AVE had some footage in his early pro models for sure and the AV6. I loved his AV3 pro model but he never skated those.
Then the “AV4” and “AV5” were some weird mall shoes with weird names and not pushed by him or Vans in skate mags at all. They did the classic DC-style technique where they used words that’s started with “Ave-“ as names. I only remember seeing they were his pro models by reading their descriptions on the Vans website. I guess they wanted to give him some good checks? I can’t seem to find photos of those anywhere anymore but used to be able to. They were bad but not any worse than any other ones of those kinds of shoes. Kids would probably love them today tbh
I still have quite a few pairs of AVE shoes, but without going through the boxes, a few names come to mind that I have or had.
The Av5 or 6 as pic above - looked like an era with extra up top and a super high toe.
AV Sk8 low(first ones) in all black upper, although they came in a million different side print materials too, but these were my favourites for a long time.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/194719773157
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NrkAAOSwwC9h2gm~/s-l1600.jpg)
AV Native, sort of like the reissue Sk8 hi with the smaller side bit
https://sneakernews.com/2012/08/26/vans-av-native-american-low/
AVE Skate Classic, a super thin canvas shoe with rubber underlay, almost Authentic thin all over
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145262079186
I have more, but that will do.
The burgundy/white, navy/white and black/white for me; many, many pairs.
Wish the latest ones still came with no stripe…
On most with the stripe I have taken to spray black out the side, change in black laces and it has a way more low key vibe.
Full black upper with the white vulc trim works for me right now. Do it to Sk8 low, Old Skool, etc.
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Busenitz in the vulcs only has been new.
AVE had some footage in his early pro models for sure and the AV6. I loved his AV3 pro model but he never skated those.
Then the “AV4” and “AV5” were some weird mall shoes with weird names and not pushed by him or Vans in skate mags at all. They did the classic DC-style technique where they used words that’s started with “Ave-“ as names. I only remember seeing they were his pro models by reading their descriptions on the Vans website. I guess they wanted to give him some good checks? I can’t seem to find photos of those anywhere anymore but used to be able to. They were bad but not any worse than any other ones of those kinds of shoes. Kids would probably love them today tbh
I still have quite a few pairs of AVE shoes, but without going through the boxes, a few names come to mind that I have or had.
The Av5 or 6 as pic above - looked like an era with extra up top and a super high toe.
AV Sk8 low(first ones) in all black upper, although they came in a million different side print materials too, but these were my favourites for a long time.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/194719773157
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NrkAAOSwwC9h2gm~/s-l1600.jpg)
AV Native, sort of like the reissue Sk8 hi with the smaller side bit
https://sneakernews.com/2012/08/26/vans-av-native-american-low/
AVE Skate Classic, a super thin canvas shoe with rubber underlay, almost Authentic thin all over
https://www.ebay.com/itm/145262079186
I have more, but that will do.
The burgundy/white, navy/white and black/white for me; many, many pairs.
Wish the latest ones still came with no stripe…
On most with the stripe I have taken to spray black out the side, change in black laces and it has a way more low key vibe.
Full black upper with the white vulc trim works for me right now. Do it to Sk8 low, Old Skool, etc.
They had a dark navy Old Skool colorway just like you're describing and it's still my favorite to this day
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Anyone ever fuck with the original AV3? I had like four pairs when they first came out. Kinda like Vans tried to do a sporty retro football shoe or a slight gazelle and actually pulled it off. Wish they would remake these
(https://i.ibb.co/v1DbYkv/F6-F17692-0717-4949-BDBA-334-F42-CAD4-D5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zsN1JZH)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZfRscNQ/B379-F5-B3-D5-DE-4-FF0-AD8-C-63-A7-BFB5-B1-ED.webp) (https://imgbb.com/)
Yup picked up like 3 orange pairs from Marshall’s back in the day. Great shoe.
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On most with the stripe I have taken to spray black out the side, change in black laces and it has a way more low key vibe.
Full black upper with the white vulc trim works for me right now. Do it to Sk8 low, Old Skool, etc.
They had a dark navy Old Skool colorway just like you're describing and it's still my favorite to this day
Yeah they do some from time to time, more special colour ways or whatever than a normal stock shoe.
The one that I was pretty stoked on was the Vans SOTY colab, all black suede old skool for Cardiel and I still have them too.
This pic came up from a google search, but I have black laces and took off the print on the side heel just to keep them plain.
* Sorry for turning this into a "vintage" Vans models thread today
(https://static.mercdn.net/item/detail/orig/photos/m87702950355_1.jpg)
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On most with the stripe I have taken to spray black out the side, change in black laces and it has a way more low key vibe.
Full black upper with the white vulc trim works for me right now. Do it to Sk8 low, Old Skool, etc.
They had a dark navy Old Skool colorway just like you're describing and it's still my favorite to this day
Yeah they do some from time to time, more special colour ways or whatever than a normal stock shoe.
The one that I was pretty stoked on was the Vans SOTY colab, all black suede old skool for Cardiel and I still have them too.
This pic came up from a google search, but I have black laces and took off the print on the side heel just to keep them plain.
* Sorry for turning this into a "vintage" Vans models thread today
(https://static.mercdn.net/item/detail/orig/photos/m87702950355_1.jpg)
Haha, I love it.
And I had those too, all suede with tonal stitching 💦
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
Is it common for pros to not wear their own shoes? Decks I get...Nyjah, Ishod, Nora, Lizzie, Foy...list goes on, always in their own shoes.
Tyshawn always wears his shoes too.
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
Is it common for pros to not wear their own shoes? Decks I get...Nyjah, Ishod, Nora, Lizzie, Foy...list goes on, always in their own shoes.
I think the big thing here is how involved they are in the process... you can tell a lot of guys just get their named slapped on a shoe that could've been a team model and then they don't like it and don't want to wear it. But if they get what they want out of their pro model then they're probably gonna wear it.
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
Is it common for pros to not wear their own shoes? Decks I get...Nyjah, Ishod, Nora, Lizzie, Foy...list goes on, always in their own shoes.
Tiago, Westgate, Knox
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Anyone ever fuck with the original AV3? I had like four pairs when they first came out. Kinda like Vans tried to do a sporty retro football shoe or a slight gazelle and actually pulled it off. Wish they would remake these
(https://i.ibb.co/v1DbYkv/F6-F17692-0717-4949-BDBA-334-F42-CAD4-D5.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zsN1JZH)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZfRscNQ/B379-F5-B3-D5-DE-4-FF0-AD8-C-63-A7-BFB5-B1-ED.webp) (https://imgbb.com/)
Yup picked up like 3 orange pairs from Marshall’s back in the day. Great shoe.
Loved them. They were an early vulc / cupsole mix too. I specifically remember that if a pair of Vans was vulc at the time, they called it out as a selling point on the box and these didn't have that, so they were doing something different with the sole. I miss this shoe all the time.
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The Knu Skool (less solid, but a puffy old skool is a good idea) and Fairlane are solid models, as long as they're not in gross, weird colors.
AVE 2.0 - wtf is that thing? Experimental technology is good but not when you butcher it like that! First AVE had the right idea with tech meets boardfeel in a cup.
I wore a pair of the reissued Fairlane's as my work shoes last year. Super comfortable, and walking 11 miles a day on sidewalks they lasted me 8 months. Really solid shoe that I wish they would have kept in production. They even had an all black leather colorway which was perfect for me being a mail carrier
As for the AVE 2, I really wish they would go back to more simplistic designs with his shoes. It's just a weird choice for the Dickies and plain white tshirt guy to have the most outlandish looking shoe in the lineup. I get that he's an aging skater and needs a more protective shoe, but it would make more sense if they took the Nike Koston 1 approach, where the tech aspects are on the inside of a simple looking silhouette. Or just release a cupsole AVE Rapidweld and call it a day
That would be true except he doesn't wear these shoes once the initial marketing push is over.
This was the same problem with Elijah's shoe -- they pushed this new Wafflecup tech on us through him and all he skates are vulcs. Might as well made him a vulc shoe.
If they want to push Wafflecup tech with a skater, they need to push Glick more. Dude is always wearing the Zahba mids and likes the cupsole.
I always respect how much footage Rowan has wearing his own model shoes
Is it common for pros to not wear their own shoes? Decks I get...Nyjah, Ishod, Nora, Lizzie, Foy...list goes on, always in their own shoes.
Yeah looking back, I'm not sure what I was driving at. That comment was probably off the cuff while I was at work lol
Idk maybe I meant respect for Rowan and his shoe, and its rad how good that shoe is and how well it is/was received.
Didn't mean to derail the thread!
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poaching this thread to advertise...
i've got a pair of white AVEs in 10.5 I'm never going to wear up for sale. brand new, never worn
also got a pair of leather 92 half cabs, chili pepper colorway, 10.5. worn from shop to my car and never put on my feet again.
DM if interested in making an offer or trade
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Actually kinda curious about the new AVE….until I saw the Oz price….
https://fasttimes.com.au/vans-ave-2-0-knit-cream.html
Woah. Yeah, nah. I’ll wait until sale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZYw4MWL2rU
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Actually kinda curious about the new AVE….until I saw the Oz price….
https://fasttimes.com.au/vans-ave-2-0-knit-cream.html
Woah. Yeah, nah. I’ll wait until sale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZYw4MWL2rU
THREE HUNDRED DOLLARYDOOS!
https://youtu.be/SjWsDoLFPqU
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Actually kinda curious about the new AVE….until I saw the Oz price….
https://fasttimes.com.au/vans-ave-2-0-knit-cream.html
Woah. Yeah, nah. I’ll wait until sale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZYw4MWL2rU
^^ That video is tough to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnHEl3L6awo
$130 base - $148 and change out the door....lol for a 'functional' i.e., a none lifestyle shoe, this in cross trainer territory (but $20 more, avg.) except x-trainers will last you 6 months before they blow out...
https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/ave-20-knit-shoe-pvn000d1fcrm
The look is sort of growing on me except for that suede eyelet 'patch' at the front, wtf is that?
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Those new AVEs are 170 francs here in Switzerland, which is... 188,5 American dollars.
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Those new AVEs are 170 francs here in Switzerland, which is... 188,5 American dollars.
That's fucking ridiculous - no wonder Vans is in the shitter...how does this shoe's design and cost, with AVE attached even make sense to anyone (other than AVE getting a paycheck but that back-end isn't gonna do well for him0.
On the plus side, these will be discounted faster than the wairmax/Vertadurps!
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poaching this thread to advertise...
i've got a pair of white AVEs in 10.5 I'm never going to wear up for sale. brand new, never worn
also got a pair of leather 92 half cabs, chili pepper colorway, 10.5. worn from shop to my car and never put on my feet again.
DM if interested in making an offer or trade
How do the Ave 2s fit?
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mark wahlberg and the entire municipal design team punching the air for not bringing this out first for shecks. looks like something I would see lululemon employees wearing with a pair of leggings or tight joggers. they've really hit a wall creatively, and honestly I just want someone to put vans out of their misery at this point.
nothing about this shoe makes any sense whatsoever.
firstly, if lifestyle consumers are going to buy a pair of vans, they're either going for one of the retro vulc's, the MTE line, or the ultrarange EXO. if they're in the market for this kind of shoe, $130 is absurdly expensive. people wanting this exact type of modern trainer style shoe are going to likely buy a cheap pair of adidas, new balance, hoka, on, asics, or nike.
secondly, the target market of skaters for these shoes has no real reason to pick these up versus any other shoe on the market. On the wall, why would someone pick this shoe over a tech shoe like the WairMax (failure in it's own right), 1010, 808, Nyjah 2/3?How does this shoe do anything different versus prior vans models like the Kyle Walker, Rowan 2, Wayvee, Zahba low/high, and the OG AVE? Why doesn't AVE himself not even wear his own shoes?
the average consumer and the target audience are really not going to buy a $130 pair of vans skate shoes, and skaters are not going to adopt something purely on the principle that AVE is behind it. there is absolutely no reason for this to exist.
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mark wahlberg and the entire municipal design team punching the air for not bringing this out first for shecks. looks like something I would see lululemon employees wearing with a pair of leggings or tight joggers. they've really hit a wall creatively, and honestly I just want someone to put vans out of their misery at this point.
nothing about this shoe makes any sense whatsoever.
firstly, if lifestyle consumers are going to buy a pair of vans, they're either going for one of the retro vulc's, the MTE line, or the ultrarange EXO. if they're in the market for this kind of shoe, $130 is absurdly expensive. people wanting this exact type of modern trainer style shoe are going to likely buy a cheap pair of adidas, new balance, hoka, on, asics, or nike.
secondly, the target market of skaters for these shoes has no real reason to pick these up versus any other shoe on the market. On the wall, why would someone pick this shoe over a tech shoe like the WairMax (failure in it's own right), 1010, 808, Nyjah 2/3?How does this shoe do anything different versus prior vans models like the Kyle Walker, Rowan 2, Wayvee, Zahba low/high, and the OG AVE? Why doesn't AVE himself not even wear his own shoes?
the average consumer and the target audience are really not going to buy a $130 pair of vans skate shoes, and skaters are not going to adopt something purely on the principle that AVE is behind it. there is absolutely no reason for this to exist.
I only skate Vans, and chill in Vans as well for the last 20+ years (yes, a few exceptions in there).
I’ve bought one pair of Nike running shoes at this price point in the last few years and was not impressed.
If these feel good on my foot I’ll give them a chance as a chiller and consider skating them, bonus AVE might get $ from it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSo
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSo
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...
Agreed, and def more interested in the non-knit version; buuuut, will still check out the knit joints as chillers.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSo
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...
Is super confusing, but was from what I understand a very limited release. Most Vans stores didn’t even get them, wanted to just hold them but my vans store didn’t even get them. I believe the ones with a more solid collar are gonna be more widely available and like $10 cheaper.
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Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...
Seems like such a strange strategy because the form-fitting knit/sock collar seems to be one of the selling points for the tech of the shoe.
From the outside looking in, aside from the Tiago 1010, it feels like it’s been a rough recent few years for new pro model shoes having selling/staying power vs team models so I’d love to see this shoe succeed because it’s AVE (idk if this will be the shoe to do that though, we’ll see)
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The normal version has been shared several times
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(https://i.ibb.co/tcWYMpc/54699810-C254-4833-B2-DC-73-E9-A9-E48881.jpg)
regular ave2
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It’s really a bad look on Vans honestly. Like they’re pushing this tech knit version and then are gonna do a full 180 on customers and release a proper upper on the same sole. I mean it’s good for us knowing we can just wait it out but for the average person who sees this as some new thing only to have the carpet ripped out from under you with a proper actual shoe is just weird imo.
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It’s really a bad look on Vans honestly. Like they’re pushing this tech knit version and then are gonna do a full 180 on customers and release a proper upper on the same sole. I mean it’s good for us knowing we can just wait it out but for the average person who sees this as some new thing only to have the carpet ripped out from under you with a proper actual shoe is just weird imo.
Vans is always making weird decisions but ppl keep giving them money so I guess it is what it is. I feel like the more expensive version is aiming at middle aged guys who have more money to spend and are very nostalgic.
I wonder if they will start giving actual pro models to younger skaters once they can't milk the nostalgia market as much because everyone just gets custom color ways these days. They won't have older pro model shoes to beat to death and charge too much for the next generation.
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It’s really a bad look on Vans honestly. Like they’re pushing this tech knit version and then are gonna do a full 180 on customers and release a proper upper on the same sole. I mean it’s good for us knowing we can just wait it out but for the average person who sees this as some new thing only to have the carpet ripped out from under you with a proper actual shoe is just weird imo.
Vans is always making weird decisions but ppl keep giving them money so I guess it is what it is. I feel like the more expensive version is aiming at middle aged guys who have more money to spend and are very nostalgic.
I wonder if they will start giving actual pro models to younger skaters once they can't milk the nostalgia market as much because everyone just gets custom color ways these days. They won't have older pro model shoes to beat to death and charge too much for the next generation.
What are they nostalgic for? Just AVE? The shoe itself isn't nostalgic at all. We also know Vans has been pretty open that their classic models, which you could argue are "nostalgic," aren't selling like they used to so I don't think they're milking that market.
I know it's just because we've seen the knit version so much, but I kinda like the knit version more than the normal version in the catalog right now...
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It’s really a bad look on Vans honestly. Like they’re pushing this tech knit version and then are gonna do a full 180 on customers and release a proper upper on the same sole. I mean it’s good for us knowing we can just wait it out but for the average person who sees this as some new thing only to have the carpet ripped out from under you with a proper actual shoe is just weird imo.
Vans is always making weird decisions but ppl keep giving them money so I guess it is what it is. I feel like the more expensive version is aiming at middle aged guys who have more money to spend and are very nostalgic.
I wonder if they will start giving actual pro models to younger skaters once they can't milk the nostalgia market as much because everyone just gets custom color ways these days. They won't have older pro model shoes to beat to death and charge too much for the next generation.
What are they nostalgic for? Just AVE? The shoe itself isn't nostalgic at all. We also know Vans has been pretty open that their classic models, which you could argue are "nostalgic," aren't selling like they used to so I don't think they're milking that market.
I know it's just because we've seen the knit version so much, but I kinda like the knit version more than the normal version in the catalog right now...
Yea, for AVE.
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It’s really a bad look on Vans honestly. Like they’re pushing this tech knit version and then are gonna do a full 180 on customers and release a proper upper on the same sole. I mean it’s good for us knowing we can just wait it out but for the average person who sees this as some new thing only to have the carpet ripped out from under you with a proper actual shoe is just weird imo.
Vans is always making weird decisions but ppl keep giving them money so I guess it is what it is. I feel like the more expensive version is aiming at middle aged guys who have more money to spend and are very nostalgic.
I wonder if they will start giving actual pro models to younger skaters once they can't milk the nostalgia market as much because everyone just gets custom color ways these days. They won't have older pro model shoes to beat to death and charge too much for the next generation.
What are they nostalgic for? Just AVE? The shoe itself isn't nostalgic at all. We also know Vans has been pretty open that their classic models, which you could argue are "nostalgic," aren't selling like they used to so I don't think they're milking that market.
I know it's just because we've seen the knit version so much, but I kinda like the knit version more than the normal version in the catalog right now...
Yea, for AVE.
Not even sure why you'd give him a shoe these days? Sure, old SOTY, still rips, part (but not the face of) FA, footage? Smells like a contract wrap up to me.
Pushing the knit is super bizzare when you are going to phase it out; also, last shoe that used the ultimate waffle? The failure that was the Berle?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSo
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...
Seems like such a strange strategy because the form-fitting knit/sock collar seems to be one of the selling points for the tech of the shoe.
From the outside looking in, aside from the Tiago 1010, it feels like it’s been a rough recent few years for new pro model shoes having selling/staying power vs team models so I’d love to see this shoe succeed because it’s AVE (idk if this will be the shoe to do that though, we’ll see)
If there’s a shoe possible of succeeding it’s the rowan 2
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It’s really a bad look on Vans honestly. Like they’re pushing this tech knit version and then are gonna do a full 180 on customers and release a proper upper on the same sole. I mean it’s good for us knowing we can just wait it out but for the average person who sees this as some new thing only to have the carpet ripped out from under you with a proper actual shoe is just weird imo.
Vans is always making weird decisions but ppl keep giving them money so I guess it is what it is. I feel like the more expensive version is aiming at middle aged guys who have more money to spend and are very nostalgic.
I wonder if they will start giving actual pro models to younger skaters once they can't milk the nostalgia market as much because everyone just gets custom color ways these days. They won't have older pro model shoes to beat to death and charge too much for the next generation.
What are they nostalgic for? Just AVE? The shoe itself isn't nostalgic at all. We also know Vans has been pretty open that their classic models, which you could argue are "nostalgic," aren't selling like they used to so I don't think they're milking that market.
I know it's just because we've seen the knit version so much, but I kinda like the knit version more than the normal version in the catalog right now...
Yea, for AVE.
Not even sure why you'd give him a shoe these days? Sure, old SOTY, still rips, part (but not the face of) FA, footage? Smells like a contract wrap up to me.
Pushing the knit is super bizzare when you are going to phase it out; also, last shoe that used the ultimate waffle? The failure that was the Berle?
No, Ultimate Waffle was designed for the AVE Pro 1 and then popped up on one of their very lifestyle-focused shoes that was technically skateable but not really pushed for skating. I just googled it and it’s called EVDNT. Berle’s was the Wafflecontrol. I never skated the Berle but based on reviews (and looking at them), they sound like they skate completely different.
I think the Ultimate Waffle has to be transparent because of the compounds used to make it.
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Pretty sure the Rowan 2 has UltimateWaffle sole.
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I missed the OG Aves for $30 AUD on sale from the vans site and now they’re fuckin $500 on flipper sites. lol.
Will wait till no one buys these and get em for $150. I like the look for a jock shoe, and their best chance is the hypebeast losers getting into them. Need to get a rapper wearing them.
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Pretty sure the Rowan 2 has UltimateWaffle sole.
Just to keep us ALL fucking confused, the Rowan are apparently equipped with the IMPACT Waffle...the Berele? WAFFLE CONTROL...AVE2.0 UltimateWaffle (it wasn't the berle it was the https://www.vans.eu/EVDNTultimatewaffle.html after the AVE, buuuut it's still kinda the AVE cuz it's more like the AVE Pro knit, not to be confused with the 2.0 knit...)
I've skated the AVE Pro/AVE Rapid Weld (very different than the pro), Berle (trash) and Rowan2 (excellent). The Berle had a very DEEP feeling fit, you were really close to the ground/really at the bottom of the sole as it was a thin midsole; the Rowan not so much, it feels more like the AVE Pro/Rapid weld did sole-wise.
Same tech but I'd guess just different levels of thickness depending on the shoe?
https://www.vans.com/en-us/berle
https://www.weartested.com/vans-berle-pro/
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What about the Rapidweld felt so different?
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What about the Rapidweld felt so different?
https://www.vans.com/en-us/article-detail/av-rapidweld-pro-lite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsMCZ4OrsiU
More of a classic silhouette compared to the AVE pro (then they made the lite version which was thinner/lighter); and no mesh I believe?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1YTUgHNltc
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Oh right the Rapidweld was super different. I was thinking of that slightly tweaked version of the AVE Pro the did after it had been out a few years.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSo
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...
Yeah, idk - looking at the Thrasher article there seems to be heaps of colorways coming out, and zero mention of this knit AVE being a limited edition. I reckon this is it, but I guess we’ll see. Either way, I’m hoping for a big price drop.
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/burnout/ave-too/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSo
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...
Yeah, idk - looking at the Thrasher article there seems to be heaps of colorways coming out, and zero mention of this knit AVE being a limited edition. I reckon this is it, but I guess we’ll see. Either way, I’m hoping for a big price drop.
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/burnout/ave-too/
It isn’t it, there’s non knit on the way. 110%
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCgH88TzoSo
Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...
Yeah, idk - looking at the Thrasher article there seems to be heaps of colorways coming out, and zero mention of this knit AVE being a limited edition. I reckon this is it, but I guess we’ll see. Either way, I’m hoping for a big price drop.
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/burnout/ave-too/
It isn’t it, there’s non knit on the way. 110%
Yeah, you’re probably right. I’m just saying that this Knit Ave doesn’t look like a one off limited drop to immediately be replaced by the non knit. But I guess that’ll depend on how it sells.
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Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...
Yeah, idk - looking at the Thrasher article there seems to be heaps of colorways coming out, and zero mention of this knit AVE being a limited edition. I reckon this is it, but I guess we’ll see. Either way, I’m hoping for a big price drop.
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/burnout/ave-too/
Some of those coloways aren't knitted though. Like the pink ones next to Diego are the normal ones.
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Looks like there’s at least 4-5 knit colorways in that display and we’ve seen 3-4 non knit between the article and the catalog photos.
What shoe is martino skating in that article?
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Looks like there’s at least 4-5 knit colorways in that display and we’ve seen 3-4 non knit between the article and the catalog photos.
What shoe is martino skating in that article?
lizzie low
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Looks like there’s at least 4-5 knit colorways in that display and we’ve seen 3-4 non knit between the article and the catalog photos.
What shoe is martino skating in that article?
(https://i.ibb.co/xmzgBfD/IMG-2967.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xmzgBfD) (https://imgbb.com/)
And Glick wearing an unfamiliar high top cupsole
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Looks like there’s at least 4-5 knit colorways in that display and we’ve seen 3-4 non knit between the article and the catalog photos.
What shoe is martino skating in that article?
And Glick wearing an unfamiliar high top cupsole
Pretty sure that's just a Zahba Mid
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Looks like there’s at least 4-5 knit colorways in that display and we’ve seen 3-4 non knit between the article and the catalog photos.
What shoe is martino skating in that article?
And Glick wearing an unfamiliar high top cupsole
Ah, that makes sense, just a new colorway I guess…
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Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...
Yeah, idk - looking at the Thrasher article there seems to be heaps of colorways coming out, and zero mention of this knit AVE being a limited edition. I reckon this is it, but I guess we’ll see. Either way, I’m hoping for a big price drop.
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/burnout/ave-too/
It isn’t it, there’s non knit on the way. 110%
Thank goodness
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Wait, so the knit is a launch/limited version? With a proper sueded version to drop after? Is it cheaper? Talk about confusion...
Yeah, idk - looking at the Thrasher article there seems to be heaps of colorways coming out, and zero mention of this knit AVE being a limited edition. I reckon this is it, but I guess we’ll see. Either way, I’m hoping for a big price drop.
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/burnout/ave-too/
Some of those coloways aren't knitted though. Like the pink ones next to Diego are the normal ones.
Besides the pink Colorway is a little tag stating "Fall '24" if im seeing it correctly.
Wonder if the non- knitted version is delayed until Fall or just that pink colorway.
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Does anyone know why they’ve never marketed their bmx cupsole slipons, old Skools etc toward skating? Surely that would be more popular than whatever zaba garbage they always put out
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Does anyone know why they’ve never marketed their bmx cupsole slipons, old Skools etc toward skating? Surely that would be more popular than whatever zaba garbage they always put out
Because they are catering/marketing them towards their intended [bmx] market?
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Anyone skating the AVE 2 and want to offer some feedback?
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Anyone skating the AVE 2 and want to offer some feedback?
I bit the bullet and bought them with 15% vans family discount. Haven’t skated em yet but the knit makes em fit like a glove(suctions to your foot). The laces are almost satin-like I don’t really like them they don’t stay tied. Very stiff for being knit material, dare I say supportive. Gonna take a minute to break in, also they’re tts.
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ya,ll seen the new BMX shoe they just released?
https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/bmx-peak-x-lewis-mills-shoe-pvn0a2z3uh91?icn=bmx-shopby-p1_peak-shoes_product_d-pdp_040824
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN0A2Z3U_H91_HERO?wid=1600&hei=1984&fmt=jpeg&qlt=90&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.7,8,0)
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ya,ll seen the new BMX shoe they just released?
https://www.vans.com/en-us/shoes-c00081/bmx-peak-x-lewis-mills-shoe-pvn0a2z3uh91?icn=bmx-shopby-p1_peak-shoes_product_d-pdp_040824
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/VN0A2Z3U_H91_HERO?wid=1600&hei=1984&fmt=jpeg&qlt=90&resMode=sharp2&op_usm=0.9,1.7,8,0)
Yes we've seen in countless times in here on the recent days.
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Apart from the weird treads on those BMX shoes, they seem like a Vans Marana and I don’t hate them.
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spotted these in DSW when picking up some dress shoes. picked them up and they're heavy af.
https://www.dsw.com/en/us/product/vans-caldrone-sneaker---mens/542025?activeColor=210 (https://www.dsw.com/en/us/product/vans-caldrone-sneaker---mens/542025?activeColor=210)
(https://images.dsw.com/is/image/DSWShoes/542025_210_ss_01?impolicy=qlt-medium-high&imwidth=640&imdensity=2)
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spotted these in DSW when picking up some dress shoes. picked them up and they're heavy af.
https://www.dsw.com/en/us/product/vans-caldrone-sneaker---mens/542025?activeColor=210 (https://www.dsw.com/en/us/product/vans-caldrone-sneaker---mens/542025?activeColor=210)
(https://images.dsw.com/is/image/DSWShoes/542025_210_ss_01?impolicy=qlt-medium-high&imwidth=640&imdensity=2)
The Wowan Zowiwwa pwo models
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Anyone skating the AVE 2 and want to offer some feedback?
I bit the bullet and bought them with 15% vans family discount. Haven’t skated em yet but the knit makes em fit like a glove(suctions to your foot). The laces are almost satin-like I don’t really like them they don’t stay tied. Very stiff for being knit material, dare I say supportive. Gonna take a minute to break in, also they’re tts.
Much obliged! I ordered some and they're really light and a little narrow but not too much. Length seems TTS. Not sure if I'm going to keep them though based on the fact I have far too many shoes already and I have no idea if they're worth it.
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I bit the bullet and bought them with 15% vans family discount. Haven’t skated em yet but the knit makes em fit like a glove(suctions to your foot). The laces are almost satin-like I don’t really like them they don’t stay tied. Very stiff for being knit material, dare I say supportive. Gonna take a minute to break in, also they’re tts.
Much obliged! I ordered some and they're really light and a little narrow but not too much. Length seems TTS. Not sure if I'm going to keep them though based on the fact I have far too many shoes already and I have no idea if they're worth it.
For sure! At this point they’re selling out so I’m sure you’ll be able to make your money back easy.
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Apart from the weird treads on those BMX shoes, they seem like a Vans Marana and I don’t hate them.
I think someone said in the "Upcoming Shoes..." thread that unlike some of Vans other BMX models, the sole on this isn't great for skating.
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spotted these in DSW when picking up some dress shoes. picked them up and they're heavy af.
https://www.dsw.com/en/us/product/vans-caldrone-sneaker---mens/542025?activeColor=210 (https://www.dsw.com/en/us/product/vans-caldrone-sneaker---mens/542025?activeColor=210)
(https://images.dsw.com/is/image/DSWShoes/542025_210_ss_01?impolicy=qlt-medium-high&imwidth=640&imdensity=2)
The Wowan Zowiwwa pwo models
Rowley X vibes.
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How does everyone feel about these "premium" authentics being sold through jcrew? 85 for canvas and 95 for suede.
https://www.jcrew.com/p/mens/categories/shoes/sneakers/vansreg-premium-authentic-sneakers-in-suede/BZ283?display=standard&fit=Classic&color_name=sea-turtle&colorProductCode=BZ283
https://www.jcrew.com/p/mens/categories/shoes/exclusives/vansreg-premium-authentic-sneakers-in-canvas/BZ284?display=standard&fit=Classic&color_name=off-white&colorProductCode=BZ284
I got a pair of authentic 44 dx on sale last year, they retail for 80 bucks so about 30ish more than the typical models. I gotta say I'm not that impressed. I think they are a little comfier on the feet and feel a bit tighter or sturdier, butfound the canvas ripping at the heel, and coming unattached at the toe box and foxing were my big toe is. hardly a premium product, never happened to my regular authentics.
I want like these so bad considering how I feel about chucks vs chuck 70s where the price increase def translates into a superior product. Just curious what others experiences have been with vans' "premium" classics.
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Looking atthem in pictures, there is no way they're worth that price. You'd definitely need to see them in person.