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Title: new Vans models
Post by: shingles on April 22, 2020, 03:52:07 AM
I used to love Vans for their iconic and timeless shoe-designs.
But nowadays it seems like, theyre trying to jump on the tech bandwagon. Ii bet a lot of you like the new shoes they have put out in the recent years, but in my opinion they just lost their iconic design.

The last realease I was really stoked on, were the Rowles SPVs:

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dauRm5NsAaQ/TnGbVYWMhpI/AAAAAAAAAgI/OTiJQjGzbkI/s1600/vans-rowleyspv-view.jpg)

and the Rowley Solos:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/00/9d/ed/009ded6fce6b0e5b73d3d604fbcbba53.jpg)

The new designs just seem to have lost their classic feel. One horrible mention is the Berle Pro:

(https://images.blue-tomato.com/is/image/bluetomato/304070510_front.jpg-7ozPUIwTo7grnNbohd6cP0HhbYM/Berle+Pro+Skateschuhe.jpg?$b8$)

And the AVE shoe would be very sick, but why did they have to choose this weird material for the sole and the outers?

(https://images.blue-tomato.com/is/image/bluetomato/304070529_front.jpg-lXiX9cgkg2WTg9sibEEhnRSwKkU/AVE+Pro+Skate+Shoes.jpg?$b8$)

I wish they could just stick to their calssic waffle cup soles and the timeless vans design. But with shoes like this:

(https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/vans-slip-on-exp-pro-test-review-preview-999x666.jpg)

or this:

(https://www.kicksonfire.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/SP20-VANSLTD-HOCKEY-AUTHHIPRO-3-565x372.jpeg?x27652)

they just disappoint me with every new release and I went back to converse.

Converse somehow keeps sticking to their roots and good designs...
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: camel filters on April 22, 2020, 04:50:22 AM
Seems like they still have plenty of the classic designs youre talking about. I mean those two you posted just seemed like riffs on old skools and eras? Those AA are literally a high top version of one of the first shoes they put out.  I did not like the look but the AVE's were probably the best feeling vans I've had in years.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Vans/catpage-VANS.html
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: shingles on April 22, 2020, 04:53:54 AM
Seems like they still have plenty of the classic designs youre talking about. I mean those two you posted just seemed like riffs on old skools and eras? Those AA are literally a high top version of one of the first shoes they put out.  I did not like the look but the AVE's were probably the best feeling vans I've had in years.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Vans/catpage-VANS.html

They still do have some of the iconic designs, but they usually fuck it up with either disgusting materials or a gross looking toecap. I know they still offer the old models such as the OldSkool or the Era but I wish they could release something like the SPV or the SOLOS...
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: camel filters on April 22, 2020, 04:58:24 AM
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Seems like they still have plenty of the classic designs youre talking about. I mean those two you posted just seemed like riffs on old skools and eras? Those AA are literally a high top version of one of the first shoes they put out.  I did not like the look but the AVE's were probably the best feeling vans I've had in years.
https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Vans/catpage-VANS.html
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They still do have some of the iconic designs, but they usually fuck it up with either disgusting materials or a gross looking toecap. I know they still offer the old models such as the OldSkool or the Era but I wish they could release something like the SPV or the SOLOS...
Not gonna defend the style of the new shoes but they definitely feel better now than what I remember from the era you're talking about.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: roba on April 22, 2020, 04:59:19 AM
i also don't like most of the vans pro cupsoles (imo the best looking cupsole vans isn't even a skate model, see https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/TKKDDN-HERO?$583x583$ (https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/TKKDDN-HERO?$583x583$)), but i'm glad that they aren't just slapping new uppers on that pro vulc sole and calling it a day, it's cool that they put out bulkier, more "tech" shoes too. i mean they aren't replacing the classics with them so why does it bother you?

also, the authentic high is just an authentic, but higher. i wouldn't say they're all that ugly, i'd skate them if i could get them for cheap.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: shingles on April 22, 2020, 05:08:30 AM
I bet theyre all pretty good for skating, but they just dont look good in my opinion.
Also a big thing is the prize of the shoes.

here in europe you pay up to 140 for a pair of AVEs, 130 for a pair of Berle Pros
but you pay 90 for a Nike SB Blazer, 90-100 for some CTAs Pro or 100 for a Busenitz Pro
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: roba on April 22, 2020, 05:13:06 AM
I bet theyre all pretty good for skating, but they just dont look good in my opinion.
Also a big thing is the prize of the shoes.

here in europe you pay up to 140 for a pair of AVEs, 130 for a pair of Berle Pros

i know g, i live in europe too  ;D although they're a bit cheaper here, it's ~100 euro for the aves and like 90 for the berles. still too much for me, but i always manage to find classic vans for about 20-30 euros so i don't really care for the prices of those newer skate models as i'd never buy them
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Spaced Cadet on April 22, 2020, 05:22:59 AM
Before they started making all these more tech models all I heard was vans were taking it too easy and making the same basic vulc shoes. Then people started complaining about the new models and saying it's like the early 2000s when they made a bunch of wild tech shoes.

Personally I love the classics and I like the new AVEs, Rowans, etc. I think Vans are doing quite well financially at the moment(at least before this pandemic anyway) and are trying to diversify their shoes to solidify their position in skateboarding. Their trying to compete against Nike, Converse, Adidas, New Balance. They really can't rely on making simple looking vulc shoes and hoping that people buy them. With getting Reynolds and Birdman, I think Vans is finally realizing that if they want to compete against the big guys they gotta act like one themselves.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: TD on April 22, 2020, 05:34:55 AM
This is only the beginning, vans will definitely see this tech resurgence through a second time. Plus, both of those Rowleys you posted were easily the most uncomfortable ones they released. Rowley OG's or nothing
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: ok boomer on April 22, 2020, 05:43:49 AM
I dunno. I love the classics but my ankles do not as much. I can do half cabs, but eras kill my feet. Haven't worn old skools in about 7 years so I'm not sure. I kind of do like the Ave Pro. I have been pondering wearing Vans again after I run out of adidas. I wish the pro shoes had a bit of variety on look though. I feel (and this is just me skimming the site) that a lot look the same, generally speaking.

Are the AVE worth it? Can't imagine paying 100 bucks for Vans, just based on how much I've torn Vans up in my life.

I like the Rowleys, TNT, and Rowan. I am 100% not a fan of those toecaps , like on Berle shoe. Reminds me of ex-girlfriends Skechers n shit.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Escape Hell on April 22, 2020, 06:53:18 AM
Picked up the suede AA authentic hiís, and they are comfy as fuck. I havenít skated them yet but they seem like they would be durable. Itís been awhile since Iíve skated Vans and those AVEs look sick as fuck. Just couldnít imagine dropping 100 on Vans tho....
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Dwyck on April 22, 2020, 07:06:35 AM
the spvs were probably the worst vans shoe i ever skated, next to a defect pair of stage fours
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 22, 2020, 07:21:44 AM
I dunno. I love the classics but my ankles do not as much. I can do half cabs, but eras kill my feet. Haven't worn old skools in about 7 years so I'm not sure. I kind of do like the Ave Pro. I have been pondering wearing Vans again after I run out of adidas. I wish the pro shoes had a bit of variety on look though. I feel (and this is just me skimming the site) that a lot look the same, generally speaking.

Are the AVE worth it? Can't imagine paying 100 bucks for Vans, just based on how much I've torn Vans up in my life.

I like the Rowleys, TNT, and Rowan. I am 100% not a fan of those toecaps , like on Berle shoe. Reminds me of ex-girlfriends Skechers n shit.

Most Vans look alike and itís because of their simplistic design and iconic jazz stripe. The difference is the constructions and building a shoe that skates different from the other. Theyíre also not calling it in by slapping all the builds on a construction (ex. Throwing a sk8-hi on a wafflecup or waffle control). Theyíre mostly building a shoe for the rider or trying to made a different shoe. They feel different and it kinda comes down to how tech the shoe you want. Like the Walker and Ave are on the the hide side and then you have the Rowan which is a Vulc and the Berle which is lower to the ground (a pebble magnet) but, a cup sole, and it includes a sock like fit.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: oyolar on April 22, 2020, 07:34:49 AM
To everyone wondering about the AVE Pros, I bought a pair and absolutely love them. I only skate cupsole and these are definitely some of the best cupsole Iíve skated in a while and all of the tech they put into the upper seems to be holding up good for me. Granted, I donít go through shoes very fast, but some people have shared their experiences in the other shoe threads and they seem to align with mine.

In my opinion, theyíre worth it. Especially if you can order from a local shop right now. 
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Idk on April 22, 2020, 07:35:36 AM
Itís funny how the Rowan looks like Rowan took the time to come up with a shoe with the design team while the Berle looks like the design department came up with something and gave it to him.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Firebert on April 22, 2020, 07:38:57 AM
It’s funny how the Rowan looks like Rowan took the time to come up with a shoe with the design team while the Berle looks like the design department came up with something and gave it to him.
I was thinking the opposite - Berle has a unique sole design. Rowan's shoe has the same thing as team models but they're pretending its new tech by changing the name to pop cush and claiming a new rubber formula (which if it were different/better, they'd use it on all the models, not just his.)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Idk on April 22, 2020, 07:43:28 AM
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Itís funny how the Rowan looks like Rowan took the time to come up with a shoe with the design team while the Berle looks like the design department came up with something and gave it to him.
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I was thinking the opposite - Berle has a unique sole design. Rowan's shoe has the same thing as team models but they're pretending its new tech by changing the name to pop cush and claiming a new rubber formula (which if it were different/better, they'd use it on all the models, not just his.)
I see what youíre saying but I feel like the sole design was more Vans coming up with it than Elijah. He seems to just skate the authentics now that the promotion for his shoe died down. The Rowan even though the sole is the same looks like a Half Cab with the TNT SG mixed into it. Thatís something Rowan said himself in interviews.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Roald Dahnkle on April 22, 2020, 07:59:20 AM
I bet theyre all pretty good for skating, but they just dont look good in my opinion.
Also a big thing is the prize of the shoes.

here in europe you pay up to 140 for a pair of AVEs, 130 for a pair of Berle Pros
but you pay 90 for a Nike SB Blazer, 90-100 for some CTAs Pro or 100 for a Busenitz Pro

I noticed this visiting Germany, I always wear Vans, but they're the most expensive of all the skate shoes over there, I'd probably be tempted to skate in Blazer GTs instead.

In the UK you're looking at £55 - £70 for Vans Pro line, then Nike & Adidas are, for the most part, £70 upward.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 22, 2020, 08:23:25 AM
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Itís funny how the Rowan looks like Rowan took the time to come up with a shoe with the design team while the Berle looks like the design department came up with something and gave it to him.
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I was thinking the opposite - Berle has a unique sole design. Rowan's shoe has the same thing as team models but they're pretending its new tech by changing the name to pop cush and claiming a new rubber formula (which if it were different/better, they'd use it on all the models, not just his.)

Berle shoe actually looks like there was some thought put into it, (shit thoughts nonetheless), but at least they tried something there. Didnít work like they expected tho and for sure Berle doesnít seem too stoked on it (I wouldnít be)
Rowans shoe is run-of-the-mill Vans design. The only thing that separates that shoe from being a team model is the name on the tongue and the extra $$$ you pay for that. Rowan seems to enjoy the shoe so at least that.

To the OP, why do you want a Rowley solo when you have a Era pro, itís 90% the same shoe. Also, you have stuff like the Chima pro in that SPV vein.
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/chima-ferguson-pro-black-true-white#pr-container

I think itís actually cool that Vans has a quite wide spectrum of offering for skaters, from techy (ave pro, ultrarange pro) to low tech (Chima pro, authentic pro)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on April 22, 2020, 08:46:38 AM
Picked up the suede AA authentic hiís, and they are comfy as fuck. I havenít skated them yet but they seem like they would be durable. Itís been awhile since Iíve skated Vans and those AVEs look sick as fuck. Just couldnít imagine dropping 100 on Vans tho....
which color? Pic? Is the collar padded at all
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on April 22, 2020, 08:50:42 AM
Popcush is a revised version of ultracush so that is new tech.
Stick sole or whatever is probably mostly marketing, yes.

Feel like the Rowan’s have enough to seperate it from the old skool/era pro lineup. The foxing is different and at a diff height. The suede is better. The collar holds you in better with better liner material.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: GoneWithTheSchwinn on April 22, 2020, 08:57:16 AM
The waffle-cup sole is damn good, hope they continue to use it. Anyone know if they will be doing more color-ways of the Rowley rapid-weld? It's a great shoe.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 22, 2020, 09:44:20 AM
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Picked up the suede AA authentic hiís, and they are comfy as fuck. I havenít skated them yet but they seem like they would be durable. Itís been awhile since Iíve skated Vans and those AVEs look sick as fuck. Just couldnít imagine dropping 100 on Vans tho....
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which color? Pic? Is the collar padded at all

I have the blue canvas. Itís not padded, it is a bit stiff and the popcush feels nicer
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: moonordie on April 22, 2020, 09:46:49 AM
Idc about this thread but I need to say that Berle pros are the biggest piece of shit in the last years.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: concerned_parent on April 22, 2020, 09:52:21 AM
rowley spv sucked

rowley squares sucked more
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: moonordie on April 22, 2020, 09:54:14 AM
rowley spv sucked

rowley squares sucked more
SPV were socks with laces, they actually looked like a ballerina dancing shoe.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Hyliannightmare on April 22, 2020, 10:36:56 AM
Never knew how people skated in Van's and chucks. Shits like being barefoot
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jakeumms on April 22, 2020, 12:05:39 PM
AVE is too damn high
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: ok boomer on April 22, 2020, 12:58:38 PM
How many of these are cupsole. Did not know that about the AVE. I'd pay higher for cupsole, but any vulcanized shit i'm paying 65 max brah
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Hairy Ballsagna on April 22, 2020, 01:07:04 PM
Have you noticed how Vans old schools are the shoe of choice for 14-year-old girls around the world, and have been for years? When the inevitable backlash to that finally comes (the next cool thing is always somewhat opposite of the last cool thing) Vans shoes will be about as popular as they were in the late 90s, unless they can create momentum around something else. So Vans isn't pushing the classics and they don't really need to push those since they're selling like crazy.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Xen on April 24, 2020, 10:07:25 AM
SPVs sucked ballzack, fell apart so fast.

AVEs skate great; sole doesn't phase me too much - really surprised. Wasn't too fond of the toebox crease, it dug in at times. I slept on the dress blues and ended up with the greens/Forrest Night; it's unlike anything in the rest of their lineup.

Didn't like the Berles, sizing felt off (too long, just like the Crockett 2s and TNT protos - it's like those three were made off the same base model or something.

Rowan is a very classic take on (like was said before) the Halfcab and the TNT SG (one of my favorite models).

Still want to skate the 112 mid and the classic mid.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on April 24, 2020, 10:15:42 AM
The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: RossDailey on April 24, 2020, 12:11:59 PM
The Chima 1 Pro

Still has that classic Vans design
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jakeumms on April 24, 2020, 12:36:28 PM
The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
Lookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Xen on April 24, 2020, 01:07:48 PM
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
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Lookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42

Why when you can get Chimas at that price?

https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Skart on April 24, 2020, 01:31:15 PM
The 112 mids are nice
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: McBrandt on April 24, 2020, 01:35:43 PM
I think the Rowley Solos were my favorite Vans shoe ever. I suppose an Era Pro does get me most of the way there, but I have to do a Customs order to get blue suede so I end up paying $90 for fancy Eras vs $50-60 for Solos. I liked that Solos looked sorta Old Skool-ish with the toe cap, and not as many people were wearing them.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 24, 2020, 02:10:57 PM
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
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Lookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42
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Why when you can get Chimas at that price?

https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white

Because theyíre cup sole?

Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on April 24, 2020, 02:35:59 PM
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
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Lookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42
youve worn? If theyre trash theyre trash haha. Havenít seen any reviews really.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on April 24, 2020, 02:37:49 PM
I get not liking some of their newer more tech models, but where on earth are you getting the idea that there's a shortage of their "classic designs"? Half the wall at most skateshops I go to are their pro classics.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Luddite on April 24, 2020, 02:45:08 PM
Soloís and SPVís were my favorites
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 24, 2020, 06:32:32 PM
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
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Lookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42
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Why when you can get Chimas at that price?

https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
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Because theyíre cup sole?

Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.

Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on April 24, 2020, 07:28:10 PM
oh shit its 40% off that sale price
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jakeumms on April 24, 2020, 07:38:01 PM
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
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Lookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42
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Why when you can get Chimas at that price?

https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
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Because theyíre cup sole?

Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.
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Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.
I'm curious to hear about them. I should take the plunge too at $25 but I just bought some shit this past week and I need to calm down.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 24, 2020, 07:50:11 PM
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
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Lookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42
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Why when you can get Chimas at that price?

https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
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Because theyíre cup sole?

Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.
[close]

Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.
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I'm curious to hear about them. I should take the plunge too at $25 but I just bought some shit this past week and I need to calm down.

If it means anything a random video popped up on YouTube with a kid skating this for the first day.

http://youtu.be/dHxPTPLr_bw
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on April 24, 2020, 08:28:29 PM
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
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Lookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42
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Why when you can get Chimas at that price?

https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
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Because theyíre cup sole?

Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.
[close]

Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.
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I'm curious to hear about them. I should take the plunge too at $25 but I just bought some shit this past week and I need to calm down.
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If it means anything a random video popped up on YouTube with a kid skating this for the first day.

http://youtu.be/dHxPTPLr_bw
yep, this too
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/en/vans-slip-on-exp-pro-wear-test-review/
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 24, 2020, 09:53:50 PM
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
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Lookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42
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Why when you can get Chimas at that price?

https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
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Because theyíre cup sole?

Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.
[close]

Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.
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I'm curious to hear about them. I should take the plunge too at $25 but I just bought some shit this past week and I need to calm down.
[close]

If it means anything a random video popped up on YouTube with a kid skating this for the first day.
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yep, this too
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/en/vans-slip-on-exp-pro-wear-test-review/

So it isnít bad. Iím honestly more concerned about the mesh. They do look more like chillers.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: pile on April 24, 2020, 10:22:34 PM
i loved those spv's. might not buy them nowadays, but i definitely skated 4-5 pairs when they came out.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Gogogadget1987 on April 24, 2020, 11:35:02 PM
I'm all about the half cabs. As long as they keep making those they can put out whatever they want to corner the market.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: RossDailey on April 25, 2020, 11:58:33 AM
Cross Post from Tate in the Up Coming Shoe Release Thread

Vans Spring/Summer Ď20
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(https://i.ibb.co/Pg7Ytzr/2-A5-A237-A-0-F7-B-4-A09-A3-D6-DDF947777-D23.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://i.ibb.co/WKL1ykH/DEA0-CC72-1-EE0-4-A1-C-A287-533-D3-F07-F290.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://i.ibb.co/K56WwWV/92626-FB9-51-E2-4728-804-A-334-E9-ECB7-EA2.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://i.ibb.co/S7VGBxR/4-D3-A010-A-51-D7-4-CC8-8-F57-AAB7-A318-FCE6.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://i.ibb.co/sswqYPR/F8-E12-B9-E-0-A49-40-F6-A510-DE823356189-B.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
(https://i.ibb.co/PMGnQGF/0-D5-ECB2-C-070-B-4-EAE-9-CE4-77-A54-BCCF039.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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There are your new Vans Models / Colorways
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on April 25, 2020, 12:38:51 PM
They need to start making non-clear soles for the AVE. It limits the good colorways to only make them translucent blue.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on April 25, 2020, 04:22:43 PM
We needed a vans thread 👍👍
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Sk.A.T.A.N on April 25, 2020, 06:15:14 PM
They need to start making non-clear soles for the AVE. It limits the good colorways to only make them translucent blue.

The outsole is not always translucent blue. Itís the midsole foam that is and it shines through. I believe they kept this strategy of clear soles to show that new tech and make the shoe feel more valuable. If you cant really see it, its a bit hard to justify 110 for vans that just look ďnormalĒ.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: WideFeet on April 26, 2020, 12:52:02 AM
I just want a mostly black colorway of the new AVE. They had that one in the beginning with the white stripe, and then an all black colorway.

Bring back the white stripe at least?!
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Speedway on April 26, 2020, 01:17:00 AM
The Rowley SPV was great but boy did you know about it if you landed primo. That said, I used to skate Gravis all the time and there wasn't much difference between how thick their soles where. I'd love another pair. The SOLOS were banging too. I've got one pair of the dress blues colourway left that I'm tempted to skate but I also want to hang onto 'em because I can't imagine I'll find another pair.

I haven't bought the new AVE shoe but I've tried them on and they feel incredible. Really slim but feel super supportive. I'm not that into cupsoles but that's one shoe I'd make the switch from vulc for.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Frank on April 26, 2020, 02:58:13 AM
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I bet theyre all pretty good for skating, but they just dont look good in my opinion.
Also a big thing is the prize of the shoes.

here in europe you pay up to 140 for a pair of AVEs, 130 for a pair of Berle Pros
but you pay 90 for a Nike SB Blazer, 90-100 for some CTAs Pro or 100 for a Busenitz Pro
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I noticed this visiting Germany, I always wear Vans, but they're the most expensive of all the skate shoes over there, I'd probably be tempted to skate in Blazer GTs instead.

In the UK you're looking at £55 - £70 for Vans Pro line, then Nike & Adidas are, for the most part, £70 upward.

don't know what blackmarket you were shopping at, but vans aren't the most expensive shoes in germany.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Ok on April 26, 2020, 07:27:56 AM
The Rowley SPV was great but boy did you know about it if you landed primo. That said, I used to skate Gravis all the time and there wasn't much difference between how thick their soles where. I'd love another pair. The SOLOS were banging too. I've got one pair of the dress blues colourway left that I'm tempted to skate but I also want to hang onto 'em because I can't imagine I'll find another pair.

I haven't bought the new AVE shoe but I've tried them on and they feel incredible. Really slim but feel super supportive. I'm not that into cupsoles but that's one shoe I'd make the switch from vulc for.

Thatís accurate: slim/supportive. Not really padded. Mine lasted really long without showing signs of wear. Didnít look like I skated them, which can be kinda nice to be able to wear a shoe out to the store without looking liking the dad that probably canít skate all that great judging by how fast he isnít moving. Actually fuck that. Iím going back to wearing busted gear all the time. Fuck fresh.
Felt like I couldnít roll my ankle if I wanted too. Got hot soles sometimes, you are very connected to the board with those, not Ďcushyí.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: YungJugg on April 26, 2020, 08:52:55 AM
SPVs sucked ballzack, fell apart so fast.

AVEs skate great; sole doesn't phase me too much - really surprised. Wasn't too fond of the toebox crease, it dug in at times. I slept on the dress blues and ended up with the greens/Forrest Night; it's unlike anything in the rest of their lineup.

Didn't like the Berles, sizing felt off (too long, just like the Crockett 2s and TNT protos - it's like those three were made off the same base model or something.

Rowan is a very classic take on (like was said before) the Halfcab and the TNT SG (one of my favorite models).

Still want to skate the 112 mid and the classic mid.

Got the 112 mid and after a week they felt too long and wide and now I never wear em, I need some thicker socks.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: yourbreakfsat on April 26, 2020, 09:22:34 AM
Those canvas/suede Sk8 hi's(?) are HOT. Hopefully the toebox is slimmer but I highly doubt it
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: fs1/2cab on April 26, 2020, 12:45:46 PM
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The Rowley SPV was great but boy did you know about it if you landed primo. That said, I used to skate Gravis all the time and there wasn't much difference between how thick their soles where. I'd love another pair. The SOLOS were banging too. I've got one pair of the dress blues colourway left that I'm tempted to skate but I also want to hang onto 'em because I can't imagine I'll find another pair.

I haven't bought the new AVE shoe but I've tried them on and they feel incredible. Really slim but feel super supportive. I'm not that into cupsoles but that's one shoe I'd make the switch from vulc for.
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Thatís accurate: slim/supportive. Not really padded. Mine lasted really long without showing signs of wear. Didnít look like I skated them, which can be kinda nice to be able to wear a shoe out to the store without looking liking the dad that probably canít skate all that great judging by how fast he isnít moving. Actually fuck that. Iím going back to wearing busted gear all the time. Fuck fresh.
Felt like I couldnít roll my ankle if I wanted too. Got hot soles sometimes, you are very connected to the board with those, not Ďcushyí.

That sounds like a really good thing to me. Please don't try to roll your ankles on purpose. Shit is painful.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: RossDailey on April 26, 2020, 08:35:15 PM
Those canvas/suede Sk8 hi's(?) are HOT. Hopefully the toebox is slimmer but I highly doubt it

They're the Crockett 2 Mid's

They're a cupsole & if they fit anything like the Crockett 2's, they're thing in the forefoot/toebox.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: fulfillthedream on April 27, 2020, 04:29:06 AM
with all the old school/90s shoe instagram pages it seems like Vans always had some out the box cupsoles? just today they posted those "pro series" 

then the whole rowley xlt era was fucking sick!
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: LiveFromTheCreek on April 27, 2020, 04:35:15 AM
I'm just over here wishing I could find another pair of these shits

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41KBLXKrM%2BL._UX395_.jpg)

Vans used to kill it so hard with the funky TNT and AV Sk8 Lo colorways
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: TheAmericanAntique on April 27, 2020, 04:37:19 PM
I'm just over here wishing I could find another pair of these shits

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41KBLXKrM%2BL._UX395_.jpg)

Vans used to kill it so hard with the funky TNT and AV Sk8 Lo colorways


Whoa these were sitting at my local in a size 8.5 for years.... Recently sold tho to another local once they were marked for like 30
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: oyolar on April 27, 2020, 10:11:07 PM
with all the old school/90s shoe instagram pages it seems like Vans always had some out the box cupsoles? just today they posted those "pro series" 

then the whole rowley xlt era was fucking sick!

Yeah but Iíve heard that most of their out of the box/super puffy and tech cupsole models in late 90s, early 2000s basically almost collapsed their skate program.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Escape Hell on May 01, 2020, 03:54:28 PM
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Picked up the suede AA authentic hiís, and they are comfy as fuck. I havenít skated them yet but they seem like they would be durable. Itís been awhile since Iíve skated Vans and those AVEs look sick as fuck. Just couldnít imagine dropping 100 on Vans tho....
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which color? Pic? Is the collar padded at all
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I have the blue canvas. Itís not padded, it is a bit stiff and the popcush feels nicer
I got the brown suede and the black canvas. They are not very padded at all but are comfortable and have a lot of ankle support youíd expect from a hi top. They are a bit stiff in the toe cap due to the extra layer. Currently skating the brown suede sand really enjoying them. Been awhile since Iíve been in Vans. Happy thus far.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on May 01, 2020, 07:56:17 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_qwN6Ql8Bk/?igshid=lvi7ikwmxp51

Clean
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mr. Kamikazi on May 02, 2020, 06:34:11 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_qwN6Ql8Bk/?igshid=lvi7ikwmxp51

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Agreed. The thing is though I'd buy these, be stoked for a day then just want to skate authentic pros/classics again. Last time I was at my local I saw the look book for the upcoming stuff and there were these all black authentic in leather coming out. I fucking want five pairs of those. They used to have them or I believe they were called the Decons.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on May 02, 2020, 12:17:57 PM
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The exp slips are $40 something on tactics. Who is gonna try em?
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Lookdown factor is so bad that I don't think I could do it even for $42
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Why when you can get Chimas at that price?

https://www.tactics.com/vans/chima-pro-2-skate-shoes/port-royal-true-white
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Because theyíre cup sole?

Tempted but not a fan of that color way. May do it and run them as house/regular shoes.
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Someone take my wallet away, just purchased them.
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I'm curious to hear about them. I should take the plunge too at $25 but I just bought some shit this past week and I need to calm down.
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If it means anything a random video popped up on YouTube with a kid skating this for the first day.
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yep, this too
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/blog/en/vans-slip-on-exp-pro-wear-test-review/
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So it isnít bad. Iím honestly more concerned about the mesh. They do look more like chillers.

Just got them. Iím usually a 9.5 and I got them in that size. They fit a bit tight and look a little funny on foot (May be due to the color I got them.

Will update with further wear
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: sadnocomply on May 02, 2020, 06:19:57 PM
https://skateparkoftampa.com/vans-geoff-rowley-classic-shoes-669919-black-red-82326-14760
Wondering if anyone has skated the Rowley classics lately or has any in depth info on them. I want to grab a pair but donít know if the general consensus on them was feasible for the price. I love half cabs and rowans for reference. But I do want a cupsole if these are even considered cup? lol anyways should I just grab some AVEís and save some time or give the Rowleys a spin? Thanks
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on May 03, 2020, 03:46:47 AM
https://skateparkoftampa.com/vans-geoff-rowley-classic-shoes-669919-black-red-82326-14760
Wondering if anyone has skated the Rowley classics lately or has any in depth info on them. I want to grab a pair but donít know if the general consensus on them was feasible for the price. I love half cabs and rowans for reference. But I do want a cupsole if these are even considered cup? lol anyways should I just grab some AVEís and save some time or give the Rowleys a spin? Thanks
check the ďanyone skated these thread?Ē I think someone said they fell apart walking around
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: stets on May 03, 2020, 04:03:04 AM
https://skateparkoftampa.com/vans-geoff-rowley-classic-shoes-669919-black-red-82326-14760
Wondering if anyone has skated the Rowley classics lately or has any in depth info on them. I want to grab a pair but donít know if the general consensus on them was feasible for the price. I love half cabs and rowans for reference. But I do want a cupsole if these are even considered cup? lol anyways should I just grab some AVEís and save some time or give the Rowleys a spin? Thanks

Nope, not cupsole at all. The Rowley Rapidweld shoe that skateshops had a few months ago was "waffle cup"... so half way between vulc and cup.

These look to be the Vans Classics vulc build, no modern cushy insole or duracap or anything. I had a white leather with gumsole pair of the same build a couple months ago, skated them for one and a half months and enjoyed them. Not a ton of padding under foot, but I wasn't skating anything huge. I wouldn't say they fell apart by any means, I could have kept skating them but got kinda bored and switched up to some cupsoles recently.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: cucktard on May 03, 2020, 05:11:48 AM
https://skateparkoftampa.com/vans-geoff-rowley-classic-shoes-669919-black-red-82326-14760
Wondering if anyone has skated the Rowley classics lately or has any in depth info on them. I want to grab a pair but donít know if the general consensus on them was feasible for the price. I love half cabs and rowans for reference. But I do want a cupsole if these are even considered cup? lol anyways should I just grab some AVEís and save some time or give the Rowleys a spin? Thanks

I loved these shoes when they first came out, and picked up two more pairs a few years back at a Vans outlet.

On my second pair now, and the insole is thin, as is the sole, feels thinner than the current Vans slip-on pros I usually wear.

The heel cup is stiff, nice minimal ankle cushioning, and the most cushion is in the fat tongue. The material stretches out a bit so maybe size down a half size. But a nice, moccasin-y thin sole shoe, if you like board feel.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 03, 2020, 05:20:19 AM
Honestly vans are blowing it by not rereleasing the Rowley XLT in this tech resurgence, shoe was perfect in every way!
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: CrimsonGhost on May 03, 2020, 06:25:15 AM
The only "new" Vans models I'd ever be interested in buying.

(https://i.imgur.com/ycuRPg0.jpg)
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Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: sadnocomply on May 03, 2020, 03:13:05 PM
Yeah fuck the rowleys I was talking about for $80 thanks cuck and stets for the breakdown! Did myself, my feet, and my wallet a favor and scooped another pair of rowans for $56 shipped.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jack burton on May 03, 2020, 05:27:15 PM
Does anyone know if vans plans on releasing anymore of the aa authentic highs in the navy? Was kinda on the fence about them at first but kinda want to them a try.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: gaunting on May 03, 2020, 06:29:30 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/B_qwN6Ql8Bk/?igshid=lvi7ikwmxp51

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aside from the DC legacy, this is the worst skate shoe Iíve ever had. this color is sick though.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: RossDailey on May 03, 2020, 07:10:30 PM
Does anyone know if vans plans on releasing anymore of the aa authentic highs in the navy? Was kinda on the fence about them at first but kinda want to them a try.

Per the Slap forum rumor mill... another Black Canvas w/ White Sole is coming.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Shalom Peterson on May 03, 2020, 08:09:19 PM
I really want those AA authentics for work. I always wear all black authentics or slips anyways. However you wouldnít catch me dead wearing them with shorts.

Most of all their other new silhouettes look weird on the web but pretty cool in person or on the right person. I used to hate those slip ons with the strap but they look good in person.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Crabby_Bastard on May 04, 2020, 12:30:15 AM
Honestly vans are blowing it by not rereleasing the Rowley XLT in this tech resurgence, shoe was perfect in every way!

I won some of those in a Damn Am contest back in like 2002. They squeaked when I walked and I blew through the bottom of the sole in what was for me, record time. I don't miss them one bit!
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 04, 2020, 02:12:11 AM
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Honestly vans are blowing it by not rereleasing the Rowley XLT in this tech resurgence, shoe was perfect in every way!
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I won some of those in a Damn Am contest back in like 2002. They squeaked when I walked and I blew through the bottom of the sole in what was for me, record time. I don't miss them one bit!
you got a bum pair! The only tougher vans shoes Iíve owned were the Rowley shams which were essentially a bullet proof half cab on a cupsole, Iíd actually champion more for them to make a comeback but I think Iím in the minority there. The XLT at least has a bit of a cult following.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Garth Marenghi on May 04, 2020, 03:38:46 AM
If we're pining for a revamped marshmallow it might as well be Rowley Shams instead.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Ok on May 04, 2020, 07:54:28 AM
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Honestly vans are blowing it by not rereleasing the Rowley XLT in this tech resurgence, shoe was perfect in every way!
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I won some of those in a Damn Am contest back in like 2002. They squeaked when I walked and I blew through the bottom of the sole in what was for me, record time. I don't miss them one bit!
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you got a bum pair! The only tougher vans shoes Iíve owned were the Rowley shams which were essentially a bullet proof half cab on a cupsole, Iíd actually champion more for them to make a comeback but I think Iím in the minority there. The XLT at least has a bit of a cult following.

I fucking loved my shams.
Bulletproof they were not. Iím not sure if Iíve ever had a shoe disintegrate faster. 
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on May 04, 2020, 02:51:48 PM
Do you guys skate grip tape laced with shards of glass?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Ok on May 04, 2020, 05:19:26 PM
Do you guys skate grip tape laced with shards of glass?

Haha. I felt like the quality of all of the Rowleyís was sus/and/or planned obsolescence
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on May 05, 2020, 05:08:05 PM
Was the Ultra Range Pro (both iterations) worth it?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on May 07, 2020, 06:17:15 AM
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/4-30-20VansStyleBlue4.jpg?v=1588274665)

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Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: off on May 07, 2020, 07:17:50 AM
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i have the classics but those pros go off. usually dont do black and blue but wouldnt mind these as chillers
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jakeumms on May 07, 2020, 09:38:07 AM
Was the Ultra Range Pro (both iterations) worth it?
I looked for them after a user here recommended them but I couldn't actually find any in my size in stock anywhere. I got the impression that they weren't making skateable versions currently. They have the lifestyle versions out still so hopefully they put either the 2 or the original back in the line. The same part of me that wants to try Legacy Slims wants to try the Ultra Range Pros.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on May 07, 2020, 10:19:29 AM
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Was the Ultra Range Pro (both iterations) worth it?
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I looked for them after a user here recommended them but I couldn't actually find any in my size in stock anywhere. I got the impression that they weren't making skateable versions currently. They have the lifestyle versions out still so hopefully they put either the 2 or the original back in the line. The same part of me that wants to try Legacy Slims wants to try the Ultra Range Pros.

Iíve seen a few on EBay and the crappy color ways are the cheapest.

That being said at 120 not many people tried them but the online reviews say they were really good.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: RossDailey on May 10, 2020, 10:46:17 PM
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Was the Ultra Range Pro (both iterations) worth it?
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I looked for them after a user here recommended them but I couldn't actually find any in my size in stock anywhere. I got the impression that they weren't making skateable versions currently. They have the lifestyle versions out still so hopefully they put either the 2 or the original back in the line. The same part of me that wants to try Legacy Slims wants to try the Ultra Range Pros.
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Iíve seen a few on EBay and the crappy color ways are the cheapest.

That being said at 120 not many people tried them but the online reviews say they were really good.

Every so often, some new guy w/ a bright idea walks into Vans & gets a 'tech' line of shoes going.

And then we have a line like XL & Ultra Range & the EXP Slip on.

It sells for a hot second & then it becomes hot garbage & everyone goes back to skating the classic vulcs.

This has happened before & it will happen again.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on May 10, 2020, 10:49:21 PM
Ay least now they have a couple of technologies out. One of them is bound to work out. Also, Iím surprised they arenít throwing their silhouettes onto the builds just to see what happens.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Vds on May 11, 2020, 08:53:19 AM
Still a garbage
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: SoftCarPrawn on July 26, 2020, 02:31:20 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDGQgaKFzRn/?igshid=1jbxsishct8z8

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: klwn on July 26, 2020, 02:35:35 PM
Just bought the Chima Pro 2 in Bordeaux and repainted the stripe in white myself  ;D
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: JK42 on July 27, 2020, 02:25:41 AM
Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: tony mugu on July 27, 2020, 04:46:38 AM
Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.


Not worth it unless they are on sale (berles). I was lucky to get mine 60% off. They are frustratingly grippy for flip tricks requiring a kickflip motion and I often found the board flying out with the front foot. The laces for me keep blowing out every 1-2 sessions. The insole sucks and I put one on top of whatever that inbuilt one is.

Vans durability is well... vans durability. I havenít skated them too long about 2 weeks I think and the toecap goes pretty quick and Iím already about to rip the fabric yet and I havenít even touched the main rubber at the front.

However some positives are they feel pretty broken in out of the box, you can find a really good consistent flip eventually but I seem to have more off/on days with them than my other shoes. In conclusion they are a sale only shoe. This was my first time skating a vans shoe and being able to compare it though to other brands so I might be subjective to an extent. I also at the moment do lots of flip tricks so the durability might be longer for you.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: moonordie on July 27, 2020, 05:24:08 AM
Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.
Don't ever get Berle pros, worst shoe ever. Poor grip, bad flick and heavy af.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on July 27, 2020, 08:59:15 AM
Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.

Currently skating Crockett 2s, skated 6 or 7 pairs before, if not more.
They're as skatable out of the box as it gets. They're perfect after 2 sessions for me, and I can skate a pair for about 2,5 months (skating 2 to 3 times a week, doing lots of tricks that include ollies) if I put a bit of Shoe Goo on the ollie hole I get after 1/1,5 month.
They're my favourite current shoe. I usually get black with white sole (classic) or plain white ones, I just wish there were more great colourways.

Never skated Berles, I think they look bad.

I read really good things about Rowans on here but didn't like the pair I got, they felt too bulky for my liking and I had trouble with the thickness of the sole, it made flip tricks harder.

TLDR: Get Crockett 2s.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on July 27, 2020, 09:37:54 AM
@franc did the rowan's and crockett fit you the same? same size? Feel like crockett might run a tad longer?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: JK42 on July 27, 2020, 09:48:04 AM
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Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.
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Currently skating Crockett 2s, skated 6 or 7 pairs before, if not more.
They're as skatable out of the box as it gets. They're perfect after 2 sessions for me, and I can skate a pair for about 2,5 months (skating 2 to 3 times a week, doing lots of tricks that include ollies) if I put a bit of Shoe Goo on the ollie hole I get after 1/1,5 month.
They're my favourite current shoe. I usually get black with white sole (classic) or plain white ones, I just wish there were more great colourways.

Never skated Berles, I think they look bad.

I read really good things about Rowans on here but didn't like the pair I got, they felt too bulky for my liking and I had trouble with the thickness of the sole, it made flip tricks harder.

TLDR: Get Crockett 2s.

Cheers for the recommend. I actually got some Rowans online during lockdown, but sent them back, like you said for being too big and puffy. It was like a canvas puffy, which just didn't seem right. Felt like i was wearing those tiger feet slippers or something.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Xen on July 27, 2020, 09:52:16 AM
I've only tried the Crocketts but they felt long (just like the Berle and TNTproto); I've the Rowans and they don't feel long to me.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: saltusnaut on July 27, 2020, 10:46:05 AM
Both Crockett 2s and my sk8 hi feel a tad long. Both kinda same sole (waflecup). I got the black "bmx version" sk8 hi.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: ClayH on July 27, 2020, 01:11:58 PM
Hey good people, what are the experiences of the Crockett 2 and the Berle...they seem pretty similar, but read/saw a couple of reviews that said the Berle was slippy.
I've got Crockett 2's waiting to be skated after the Berles I'm skating right now.

Unpopular opinion, but I'm really enjoying my Berles. I rip laces a lot and these do blow out so I just super glued them and they've been fine. They are a bit heavy, but I only noticed when picking up other shoes after holding them. Seams tend to blow out, but super glue ahead of time and you'll be fine. Durability and flick feel really great and the sole is pretty supportive. I have a really high arch and narrow foot so a sole working perfectly for me is rare. The sock liner is the real highlight. It's amazingly comfortable. For walking, they're great. For skating, they aren't the worst but aren't the best. If I had to skate just this shoe forever, I wouldn't be terribly bummed. They're worth trying, to me.

I'm interested to try the Crockett's, but they rub funny on my heel. They feel way more "normal" than the berles and are less tech-y than the Berles.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: JK42 on July 27, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
Iím normally a 10.5 in era pros, but was a 10 in the TNT adv proto. Would you half size down for the Crockett 2s?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on July 27, 2020, 04:18:11 PM
I agree with Clayís opinions on the Berle. Had a pair, for as tech as they are they arenít very special. For walking and chilling they excel (I had the mesh blue and yellow ones). Theyíre comfortable but for skating they require getting used to. They felt grippy and difficult to flick with but weirdly became slippery. Theyíre pebble magnets and will fuck up your grip but as long as you donít have defects, youíll be fine. A solid 6/10 in retrospect.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: TastyBurrito on July 27, 2020, 05:59:09 PM
I've been going between a pair of Walkers and Berles. I prefer the Berles for everyday wear and just pumping around the bowl because they're pretty grippy. The Walkers are a bit better for flick. Then again, I suck at skating, so don't trust my opinion too much.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on July 27, 2020, 07:58:59 PM
I've been going between a pair of Walkers and Berles. I prefer the Berles for everyday wear and just pumping around the bowl because they're pretty grippy. The Walkers are a bit better for flick. Then again, I suck at skating, so don't trust my opinion too much.

I got a pair of the walkers in the leather with the snake stripe thing. Theyíre mad comfy and look nice. I want another pair to skate.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Uncle Flea on July 28, 2020, 05:06:18 AM
Has anyone tried the Velcro Kwalk that looks like a Janoski?

And does it have a regs insole or a big foam thing.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: TastyBurrito on July 28, 2020, 09:10:03 AM
Has anyone tried the Velcro Kwalk that looks like a Janoski?

And does it have a regs insole or a big foam thing.

Have they even dropped? I dunno. I respect the look, but I think I would've liked it more without the velcro.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on July 30, 2020, 09:02:25 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDPa6Eipawx/?igshid=19kxt53bmr0tl

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Post by: Theme For A Jackal on July 30, 2020, 09:35:12 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDPa6Eipawx/?igshid=19kxt53bmr0tl

This legit looks like a rock climbing shoe... looks like they'd be awful for skating but my buddy who used to skate but doesn't anymore says they're great for working out in
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: TastyBurrito on July 30, 2020, 10:01:15 AM
Those Ultraranges are basically the Vans dad shoes.

Comfy for everyday walking and such. I bought a pair to take with me when traveling through Thailand, Vietnam, Hawaii, etc. Perfect as they feel comfy without socks making it easier to wear them to a beach, waterfall, river, etc., then throw em back on when you leave.

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: stets on July 30, 2020, 11:03:46 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDPa6Eipawx/?igshid=19kxt53bmr0tl

I am almost 100% sure these aren't from their Pro Skate line. Says it has "all terrain grip" which leads me to believe it's from either their surf or lifestyle lines intended for casual outdoor wear.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on July 30, 2020, 11:35:49 AM
They arenít. If you look closely on the 3rd slide itís the reverse waffle thing. I think Grossa had a Sk8-Mid with them (s/o to the Gel Ultracush HD) and it had the sole, accidentally.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on July 30, 2020, 11:43:27 AM
yeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though

Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
 https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white


(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/TJX1RN-HERO?$583x583$)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Allen. on July 30, 2020, 11:50:48 AM
That shoe is fucking hideous to me, and I donít know why.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on July 30, 2020, 02:16:41 PM
yeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though

Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
 https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white


(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/TJX1RN-HERO?$583x583$)

Do his shoes sell like crazy or something? Cause it's really surprising to me that he's still getting pro models and people are doubting that Reynolds will get one
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Gay Imp Sausage Metal on July 30, 2020, 02:47:32 PM
That shoe is fucking hideous to me, and I know why.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Crap on July 31, 2020, 05:15:42 AM
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yeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though

Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
 https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white

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Do his shoes sell like crazy or something? Cause it's really surprising to me that he's still getting pro models and people are doubting that Reynolds will get one

I kind of assumed it was in his contract that he gets x number of pro models, so they had to keep making them, even though he's not really a top level pro anymore. But that shoe looks disgusting, and it's been in the line a couple years now, so someone must be buying it.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Ok on July 31, 2020, 08:48:47 AM
I basically shill for the AVE now. Found myself near a track and decided to run in circles for a while, didnít have my running shoes, feet felt fine afterwards.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on July 31, 2020, 08:57:50 AM
I basically shill for the AVE now. Found myself near a track and decided to run in circles for a while, didn’t have my running shoes, feet felt fine afterwards.
I need a pair. Was waiting for some significant discount. the 30% was good but had bought too much recently to bite on em. Liking the crockett 2's cushion wise just from walking around lately.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Ok on July 31, 2020, 02:18:24 PM
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I basically shill for the AVE now. Found myself near a track and decided to run in circles for a while, didnít have my running shoes, feet felt fine afterwards.
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I need a pair. Was waiting for some significant discount. the 30% was good but had bought too much recently to bite on em. Liking the crockett 2's cushion wise just from walking around lately.

Gilb2ís look decent for sure. When Iím not stanning for the AVE I just want plain authentics/eras/maybe half cabs, in the most basic colors. I skated in my Juliens and that was fun for the 2 weeks they lasted. Some of the newer tech vans shoes look pretty bad....
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on August 11, 2020, 11:22:53 AM
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yeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though

Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
 https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white

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Do his shoes sell like crazy or something? Cause it's really surprising to me that he's still getting pro models and people are doubting that Reynolds will get one
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I kind of assumed it was in his contract that he gets x number of pro models, so they had to keep making them, even though he's not really a top level pro anymore. But that shoe looks disgusting, and it's been in the line a couple years now, so someone must be buying it.

I mean no one is getting a contract like that, right?There's no way shoe companies are doing 10 pro model shoe deals, even someone like Vans.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Crap on August 11, 2020, 11:42:32 AM
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yeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though

Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
 https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white

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Do his shoes sell like crazy or something? Cause it's really surprising to me that he's still getting pro models and people are doubting that Reynolds will get one
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I kind of assumed it was in his contract that he gets x number of pro models, so they had to keep making them, even though he's not really a top level pro anymore. But that shoe looks disgusting, and it's been in the line a couple years now, so someone must be buying it.
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I mean no one is getting a contract like that, right?There's no way shoe companies are doing 10 pro model shoe deals, even someone like Vans.

I don't know if they're giving out deals like that anymore, but I think they did at one point. I don't know if it was 10 pro models specifically, but I don't think TNT still has a pro shoe just because of his marketability, which is nowhere near what it once was. Look at the last couple pro models P-Rod had on Nike. He wasn't exactly on top of the skate world anymore, his shoes weren't flying off the shelves, and they had newer guys who deserved it more. I assume TNT's last one or two Vans pro models are the same thing. Depending on when he signed his deal, there might have been a bidding war with another brand, or he may have just had a lot of negotiating power to get something like that written in.

This is a lot of speculation on my part, so I have no idea if it's true, but that's just the scenario that makes the most sense to me.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: GoldenGateHeights on August 11, 2020, 11:51:07 AM
Not a fan of that pumpkin colorway at all, but I definitely have a pair of TNT Advanced Prototypes in the rotation of shoes I skate in. Comfortable, durable, and remind me a bit of the AV Rapidweld Pro.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on August 11, 2020, 12:17:36 PM
@franc did the rowan's and crockett fit you the same? same size? Feel like crockett might run a tad longer?

Sorry for the delayed reply.

I got both in the same size (11.5) and the Gilbies might be a tiny, tiny bit longer. Both did fit well until I tried to skate the Rowans which I didn't like at all.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: fredgallSOTY on August 11, 2020, 12:19:04 PM
i feel like the only locks for pro shoes in the future are Reynolds and Kader. those will sell super well unless Vans completely botches the design. would love to see what reynolds brings to the table in terms of a Vans shoe.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Solid bowlcut on August 11, 2020, 12:32:27 PM
Anyone noticed that the new Old Skool pros (full suede) are ridiculously wide or am i just trippin? I have pretty wide foot yet my trusty old 8.5s feel almost too loose.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: TastyBurrito on August 11, 2020, 12:38:11 PM
i feel like the only locks for pro shoes in the future are Reynolds and Kader. those will sell super well unless Vans completely botches the design. would love to see what reynolds brings to the table in terms of a Vans shoe.

I feel Justin Henry is gonna get one once Quasi turns him pro.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Murge on August 11, 2020, 12:40:12 PM
i feel like the only locks for pro shoes in the future are Reynolds and Kader. those will sell super well unless Vans completely botches the design. would love to see what reynolds brings to the table in terms of a Vans shoe.

If Reynolds made a good looking cup. Something you can wear to skate and to do errands that would be ideal.

I really enjoyed the aves but the clear some gimmick wore off quick to me. And the weird toe cap on it durable but just looked not so great to me. I got the all black and I with I got the white ones. I canít pull off an all black shoe.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on August 11, 2020, 12:49:03 PM
posted in upcoming shoes thread..Those vans cups Reynolds was wearing. special made fairlanes

(https://i.ibb.co/F4xk8mK/BCEA2274-7-E74-48-FA-8051-531-E2-EF86-FFB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F4xk8mK)

(https://i.ibb.co/7p4KCt5/8-E07-E3-BF-A09-A-4498-8-F62-D4-FDEB755-B5-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7p4KCt5)

(https://i.ibb.co/fGGpV0v/0000-C941-F791-48-E2-B700-36-E077-D2127-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fGGpV0v)

Something like this? But modernized I could see vans dropping.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cb/98/0d/cb980d4e4ec13abc6d68eb87c8f625b1.jpg)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: FROTHY on August 11, 2020, 01:11:16 PM
For those who find vulcanized Vans to be very grippy on fliptricks, how do the AVEs compare? I skate Vans all the time, but I notice my fliptricks are a lot better in cupsoles because of slightly less tackiness. Would buy some AVEs if the flick wasn't quite as sticky as, say, my slipon pros.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on August 11, 2020, 01:18:42 PM
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@franc did the rowan's and crockett fit you the same? same size? Feel like crockett might run a tad longer?
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Sorry for the delayed reply.

I got both in the same size (11.5) and the Gilbies might be a tiny, tiny bit longer. Both did fit well until I tried to skate the Rowans which I didn't like at all.

Curious to hear what you didn't like about them? I absolutely love mine, best skate shoe I've had in years
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Firebert on August 11, 2020, 01:33:18 PM
For those who find vulcanized Vans to be very grippy on fliptricks, how do the AVEs compare? I skate Vans all the time, but I notice my fliptricks are a lot better in cupsoles because of slightly less tackiness. Would buy some AVEs if the flick wasn't quite as sticky as, say, my slipon pros.
Yes, I can confirm that the AVEs are slightly less sticky than the pro vulcs.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on August 11, 2020, 04:43:05 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDw2DqdlUSS/?igshid=6cwyohnx3ft8
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on August 13, 2020, 04:56:00 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDwCNfogPvN/?igshid=1vxvntv0tehqa

Probably not in pro skate line but reminded me of fairlaine or the duos Reynolds was wearing a bit
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mantracker on August 13, 2020, 08:19:38 AM
Crockett Highs are finally live in Canada - scored a pair this morning on the Vans site. Act fast
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Dooky-shoes on August 13, 2020, 08:50:12 AM
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dauRm5NsAaQ/TnGbVYWMhpI/AAAAAAAAAgI/OTiJQjGzbkI/s1600/vans-rowleyspv-view.jpg
Are these limited?
Sold out everywhere. I really want a pair.
Side note, i bought the era pros(or whichever one has no padding on the collar) and they are so uncomfortable. Blisters on pinky toe and heel rub. Granted i was sock-less but my intent was for some summertime shoes.
Do they get better?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on August 13, 2020, 10:43:21 AM
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dauRm5NsAaQ/TnGbVYWMhpI/AAAAAAAAAgI/OTiJQjGzbkI/s1600/vans-rowleyspv-view.jpg
Are these limited?
Sold out everywhere. I really want a pair.
Side note, i bought the era pros(or whichever one has no padding on the collar) and they are so uncomfortable. Blisters on pinky toe and heel rub. Granted i was sock-less but my intent was for some summertime shoes.
Do they get better?
Authentics then if they dont have collar padding. id say wearing with socks to break them in would be a better choice. maybe theyre too snug ?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Firebert on August 13, 2020, 01:23:10 PM
Those Rowley SPVs came out 9 years ago...

and yeah Authentic Pros are terrible - stay far away. Get era pros instead.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: oyolar on August 13, 2020, 02:59:18 PM
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yeah not in the pro skate line. borrowing ultracush though

Also, the TNT advance prototype is still being made? see a new color pop up but these were crazy cheap at the outlet
 https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/tnt-advanced-prototype-pumpkin-white

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Do his shoes sell like crazy or something? Cause it's really surprising to me that he's still getting pro models and people are doubting that Reynolds will get one
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I kind of assumed it was in his contract that he gets x number of pro models, so they had to keep making them, even though he's not really a top level pro anymore. But that shoe looks disgusting, and it's been in the line a couple years now, so someone must be buying it.
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I mean no one is getting a contract like that, right?There's no way shoe companies are doing 10 pro model shoe deals, even someone like Vans.
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I don't know if they're giving out deals like that anymore, but I think they did at one point. I don't know if it was 10 pro models specifically, but I don't think TNT still has a pro shoe just because of his marketability, which is nowhere near what it once was. Look at the last couple pro models P-Rod had on Nike. He wasn't exactly on top of the skate world anymore, his shoes weren't flying off the shelves, and they had newer guys who deserved it more. I assume TNT's last one or two Vans pro models are the same thing. Depending on when he signed his deal, there might have been a bidding war with another brand, or he may have just had a lot of negotiating power to get something like that written in.

This is a lot of speculation on my part, so I have no idea if it's true, but that's just the scenario that makes the most sense to me.

PRod definitely had a contract guaranteeing 10 pro models. I assumed theyíd expand beyond that, particularly with Primitive taking off, but looks like thatís not the case. Wonder if theyíll give him one more model before he moves completely into the background / retires.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Dooky-shoes on August 13, 2020, 03:48:17 PM
Those Rowley SPVs came out 9 years ago...

and yeah Authentic Pros are terrible - stay far away. Get era pros instead.
Awww man, i thought they reissued the spvís. They should, one of my favorites.
Iím bummed on the authentics and wish they would break in but whatever. Shouldíve bought the originals. Half the price and not terribly uncomfortable.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on August 13, 2020, 09:37:37 PM
does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: thefriscokid on August 14, 2020, 01:03:41 AM
does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight



Id be so happy if they lasted me more than 3 weeks, really want to try the Rowans out but Im afraid of buying limp dick Vans
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Toadfish Rebecchi on August 14, 2020, 02:59:52 AM
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does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight
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Id be so happy if they lasted me more than 3 weeks, really want to try the Rowans out but Im afraid of buying limp dick Vans

The Rowans are extremely durable and donít potato out like other Vans. Hold their shape and form well. Made from premium materials for a simple looking shoe.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on August 14, 2020, 07:37:22 AM
It's by no means an advanced shoe, but the Old School Pros have always treated me well. It seems like the non-pro classics wear out almost immediately.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on August 14, 2020, 07:41:21 AM
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does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight
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Id be so happy if they lasted me more than 3 weeks, really want to try the Rowans out but Im afraid of buying limp dick Vans
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The Rowans are extremely durable and donít potato out like other Vans. Hold their shape and form well. Made from premium materials for a simple looking shoe.

I've been skating mine since first week of April and they're still holding up great, no shoe-goo or anything. Sole is starting to get a little smooth though.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on August 14, 2020, 08:01:19 AM
does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight
Could be the new popcush? or you suggesting rubber compound, shape, etc? Rowans have that new outsole(gum rubber?) tech too 
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on August 14, 2020, 08:10:22 AM
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Could be the new popcush? or you suggesting rubber compound, shape, etc? Rowans have that new outsole(gum rubber?) tech too

The Popcush is definitely more supportive. My current Old Schools have them and it felt like it took a bit longer to break in compared to the ones I had with Ultracush, but now they feel great.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Firebert on August 14, 2020, 08:18:28 AM
The popcush insoles that came in my halfcabs are noticeably softer than the popcush insoles that were in my old skools/eras/slip-ons.... super weird - maybe they harden/soften up over time/humidity.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on August 14, 2020, 03:54:05 PM
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Could be the new popcush? or you suggesting rubber compound, shape, etc? Rowans have that new outsole(gum rubber?) tech too
yeah i don't really know. the overall feel is just better on my feet. used to feel all the stitching rubbing on my feet but maybe that could be attributed to a new insole with a different fit inside the shoe?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Fat Tire on August 20, 2020, 11:26:24 AM
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-skate/kyle-pro-2-antique-white

Has anybody else seen these?

Absolutely obscene.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: TastyBurrito on August 20, 2020, 11:32:02 AM
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-skate/kyle-pro-2-antique-white

Has anybody else seen these?

Absolutely obscene.

Personally think they would've looked better without the strap.
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Post by: Murge on August 20, 2020, 11:46:46 AM
They look like toddler shoes.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on August 20, 2020, 11:50:06 AM
New Crockett hi quasi collab remind me of sco fi fantasy sk8 hi. Black midsole and blue/teal paneling w black suede
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: GuessAgain? on August 21, 2020, 06:22:56 AM
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https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-skate/kyle-pro-2-antique-white

Has anybody else seen these?

Absolutely obscene.
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Personally think they would've looked better without the strap.

Wait, is that a backward velcro strap? eeeeugh what genius thunk of that idea
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Solid bowlcut on August 21, 2020, 07:20:07 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/pxES8PT.jpg)
*Insert DGK Haters quote*
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on August 21, 2020, 07:55:36 AM
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@franc did the rowan's and crockett fit you the same? same size? Feel like crockett might run a tad longer?
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Sorry for the delayed reply.

I got both in the same size (11.5) and the Gilbies might be a tiny, tiny bit longer. Both did fit well until I tried to skate the Rowans which I didn't like at all.
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Curious to hear what you didn't like about them? I absolutely love mine, best skate shoe I've had in years

The sole is too thick and makes flip tricks harder. They feel kinda bulky too. I'll stick to Crocketts and Half Cab Pros from now on.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on August 23, 2020, 04:59:10 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv (https://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv)


https://www.instagram.com/p/CEISu7BD8Aj/?igshid=wylu9dcq11q4 (https://www.instagram.com/p/CEISu7BD8Aj/?igshid=wylu9dcq11q4)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Solid bowlcut on August 23, 2020, 05:51:43 AM
Can't really go wrong with white, too bad i already have too much shoes
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: DISTANT RUMOURS on August 23, 2020, 06:53:01 AM
Can't really go wrong with white, too bad i already have too much shoes

There's no such thing as too many pairs of shoes...
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Cosme on August 23, 2020, 07:03:21 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv (https://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv)


now pre-creased
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Solid bowlcut on August 23, 2020, 07:47:04 AM
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Can't really go wrong with white, too bad i already have too much shoes
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There's no such thing as too many pairs of shoes...
My partner disagrees
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: texasplant on August 23, 2020, 08:13:01 PM
I havenít read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...

Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so Iím gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNTís. Stoked
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: stets on August 23, 2020, 09:42:12 PM
I havenít read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...

Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so Iím gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNTís. Stoked

The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: texasplant on August 24, 2020, 12:26:04 AM
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I havenít read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...

Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so Iím gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNTís. Stoked
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The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!

Thatís what I originally wanted.. but with such a bad ankle I needed something that was at least a normal height, Chimas are a touch too low for my liking
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Xen on August 25, 2020, 12:23:53 PM
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv (https://www.instagram.com/p/CEKdaF9HvP4/?igshid=10ppdta0vengv)

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now pre-creased

It's the one thing I dislike about that shoe.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on August 27, 2020, 07:46:52 AM
 Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht1.jpg?v=1598461958)


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht2.jpg?v=1598461958)
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Post by: Solid bowlcut on August 27, 2020, 08:39:58 AM
I've been wondering, is there reason why most suede shoes are always more off white color and not bright white?
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Post by: Firebert on August 27, 2020, 08:52:24 AM
I've been wondering, is there reason why most suede shoes are always more off white color and not bright white?
I think it's because there's only so much bleach you can throw on skin before the integrity is compromised. Also, the heel panel of the AVE pros is stitched as opposed to welded - and always a slightly different shade than the vamp - I think the rapid-weld process fades the suede a little bit.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: MyUserName on August 27, 2020, 09:26:43 AM
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I havenít read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...

Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so Iím gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNTís. Stoked
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The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!

I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.

Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht1.jpg?v=1598461958)


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht2.jpg?v=1598461958)

Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: heckler on August 27, 2020, 09:44:28 AM
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does anyone know if vans are just better now in general? i used to avoid them like the plague but i've skated rowans and old skools now and they've been pretty ight
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Id be so happy if they lasted me more than 3 weeks, really want to try the Rowans out but Im afraid of buying limp dick Vans
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The Rowans are extremely durable and donít potato out like other Vans. Hold their shape and form well. Made from premium materials for a simple looking shoe.
Skated the Rowans very heavily this past summer (three to four times a week) and they lasted a solid two months before potatoing out.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: IanBZHD on August 27, 2020, 11:36:22 AM
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I havenít read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...

Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so Iím gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNTís. Stoked
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The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
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I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.

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Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht1.jpg?v=1598461958)


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht2.jpg?v=1598461958)
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Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.
Still looks wrong. Sucks you always have to have some sort of blue showing through the sole.
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: DaveFuck on August 27, 2020, 12:44:16 PM
Give me more rowans please <3
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: CrumblingInfrastructure on August 27, 2020, 03:09:58 PM
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I havenít read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...

Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so Iím gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNTís. Stoked
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The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
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I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.

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Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht1.jpg?v=1598461958)


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-26-20VansAveProWht2.jpg?v=1598461958)
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Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.
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Still looks wrong. Sucks you always have to have some sort of blue showing through the sole.
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.

Iíve been wearing the blacked out Aves and like the way they look. The blue is still there but I dont even notice it.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on August 27, 2020, 05:41:50 PM
Yeah I do want the black pair for that exact reason
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Crap on August 28, 2020, 05:21:57 AM
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I havenít read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...

Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so Iím gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNTís. Stoked
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The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
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I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.

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Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above

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Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.
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Still looks wrong. Sucks you always have to have some sort of blue showing through the sole.
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.

The in-between shoe where it isn't a sock, but they didn't fall over themselves to make you look at the tech is the Berle. Everyone says it looks like a Kohls shoe, and they're right; but it does have some tech in it, and it still looks way better than the AVE shoe, which is seemingly a great shoe that is totally ruined by its appearance.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: camel filters on August 28, 2020, 05:25:50 AM
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I havenít read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...

Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so Iím gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNTís. Stoked
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The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
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I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.

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Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above

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Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.
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Still looks wrong. Sucks you always have to have some sort of blue showing through the sole.
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.
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The in-between shoe where it isn't a sock, but they didn't fall over themselves to make you look at the tech is the Berle. Everyone says it looks like a Kohls shoe, and they're right; but it does have some tech in it, and it still looks way better than the AVE shoe, which is seemingly a great shoe that is totally ruined by its appearance.
My friend has the berles and i noticed every time he skates them he spends at least a quarter of the session in a dark corner picking out pebbles from the sole. Bet they'd be a great shoe at clean parks but a no no in the streets. At least he's cleaning up pebbles for the rest of us at the session.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Crap on August 28, 2020, 06:39:50 AM
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I havenít read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...

Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so Iím gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNTís. Stoked
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The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
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I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.

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Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above

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Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.
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Still looks wrong. Sucks you always have to have some sort of blue showing through the sole.
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.
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The in-between shoe where it isn't a sock, but they didn't fall over themselves to make you look at the tech is the Berle. Everyone says it looks like a Kohls shoe, and they're right; but it does have some tech in it, and it still looks way better than the AVE shoe, which is seemingly a great shoe that is totally ruined by its appearance.
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My friend has the berles and i noticed every time he skates them he spends at least a quarter of the session in a dark corner picking out pebbles from the sole. Bet they'd be a great shoe at clean parks but a no no in the streets. At least he's cleaning up pebbles for the rest of us at the session.

Yeah, nobody likes that shoe at all, eh? Like, not even the guy whose name is on it. I really wanted to like it because most cupsoles on the market right now look like either 2002 DC's or baseball coach shoes; but it didn't fit me properly, and nobody that bought it seems satisfied with it.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: TastyBurrito on August 28, 2020, 09:09:38 AM
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I havenít read this topic in its entirety but I just got some TNT Advanced over the weekend to try the 3D Lite sole. I fractured my ankle a few years ago and never let it heal properly, which caused my arch to collapse to compensate...

Never used any kind of orthotic sole because I always find they hurt the arch too much, until I learnt that its something you need to let your feet adjust to. Had a solid skate in them yesterday and my session definitely lasted a little longer! Less back pain ect so Iím gonna swap these into other shoes/buy more TNTís. Stoked
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The Chima 2 has the same 3D light insole as the TNT, in case you want a different kinda shoe with the same insole!
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I can attest to the Chima 2 and the UltraCush 3D insole. I've mentioned in previous threads that UltraCush HD was the most unstable and painful insoles I've ever stepped on, and I can't understand how anyone walks on them let alone skate on them. 3D, on the other hand, isn't perfect but it doesn't hurt and feels much more stable.

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Premier usually has good pics but not sure is this suede is off white or white and just a filter. not as crisp as the views above

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Took them more than a year, but finally a colorway of this shoe that doesn't have a puke-inducing outsole.
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Still looks wrong. Sucks you always have to have some sort of blue showing through the sole.
I swear vans will either give you a sock to skate with no tech, or go way to far like they did with the AVE or Walker 2.
Not even gonna mention changes their insole feel every few months now.
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The in-between shoe where it isn't a sock, but they didn't fall over themselves to make you look at the tech is the Berle. Everyone says it looks like a Kohls shoe, and they're right; but it does have some tech in it, and it still looks way better than the AVE shoe, which is seemingly a great shoe that is totally ruined by its appearance.
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My friend has the berles and i noticed every time he skates them he spends at least a quarter of the session in a dark corner picking out pebbles from the sole. Bet they'd be a great shoe at clean parks but a no no in the streets. At least he's cleaning up pebbles for the rest of us at the session.
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Yeah, nobody likes that shoe at all, eh? Like, not even the guy whose name is on it. I really wanted to like it because most cupsoles on the market right now look like either 2002 DC's or baseball coach shoes; but it didn't fit me properly, and nobody that bought it seems satisfied with it.

I'm riding a pair right now. I'm fine with them. Does take some wear to get rid of the stiffness.The cupsole is nice. The sole doesn't feel as thick as the Kyle Walkers which I skated last (good thing). And I like them as everyday wear as well.

Also granted, I'm not in the streets. I'm in the park riding (learning) transition.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on August 28, 2020, 01:59:09 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEcZXpQlJSY/?igshid=14mpn16pip66j
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Nth syd bear on August 31, 2020, 08:47:42 PM
Hey so wasn't sure which thread to ask this but maybe someone will respond here

Anyone know where can get a pair of size 9 half cab pro's in the the U.S?

I'm an Aussie asking for a "friend " in the states

Any help be appreciated  :)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on September 01, 2020, 08:02:45 AM
white/black Rowan's on premier.. really like these

https://thepremierstore.com/products/rowan-pro-4 (https://thepremierstore.com/products/rowan-pro-4)


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/8-31-20RowanWht1.jpg?v=1598903186)
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Post by: PincherBug on September 01, 2020, 08:32:51 AM
Hey so wasn't sure which thread to ask this but maybe someone will respond here

Anyone know where can get a pair of size 9 half cab pro's in the the U.S?

I'm an Aussie asking for a "friend " in the states

Any help be appreciated  :)

You can get a size 9 Half Cab pros almost any shop site or on the Vans site

https://www.tactics.com/search/vans+half+cab+pro+skate+shoes (https://www.tactics.com/search/vans+half+cab+pro+skate+shoes)
Tactics has size 9 in the OG colorway and green tan colorway

These are dope, they have size 9
https://www.561skateboarding.com/collections/frontpage/products/vans-half-cab-pro-surplus-black-military?variant=32079030878278 (https://www.561skateboarding.com/collections/frontpage/products/vans-half-cab-pro-surplus-black-military?variant=32079030878278)

Zappos has 9 in og black
https://www.zappos.com/p/vans-half-cab-pro-black-black-white/product/7418942/color/552963 (https://www.zappos.com/p/vans-half-cab-pro-black-black-white/product/7418942/color/552963)

Vans store has surplus colorway and og black in size 9
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/surplus-half-cab-pro-black-military (https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/surplus-half-cab-pro-black-military)

Take your pick homie

Ive gotten shoes from all theses sites, all legit
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Nth syd bear on September 01, 2020, 11:52:19 AM
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Hey so wasn't sure which thread to ask this but maybe someone will respond here

Anyone know where can get a pair of size 9 half cab pro's in the the U.S?

I'm an Aussie asking for a "friend " in the states

Any help be appreciated  :)
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You can get a size 9 Half Cab pros almost any shop site or on the Vans site

https://www.tactics.com/search/vans+half+cab+pro+skate+shoes (https://www.tactics.com/search/vans+half+cab+pro+skate+shoes)
Tactics has size 9 in the OG colorway and green tan colorway

These are dope, they have size 9
https://www.561skateboarding.com/collections/frontpage/products/vans-half-cab-pro-surplus-black-military?variant=32079030878278 (https://www.561skateboarding.com/collections/frontpage/products/vans-half-cab-pro-surplus-black-military?variant=32079030878278)

Zappos has 9 in og black
https://www.zappos.com/p/vans-half-cab-pro-black-black-white/product/7418942/color/552963 (https://www.zappos.com/p/vans-half-cab-pro-black-black-white/product/7418942/color/552963)

Vans store has surplus colorway and og black in size 9
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/surplus-half-cab-pro-black-military (https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/surplus-half-cab-pro-black-military)

Take your pick homie

Ive gotten shoes from all theses sites, all legit

Thanks mate.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: ungzilla on September 04, 2020, 10:24:39 AM
Gilby Hi mini review


Not a ton of material to the high top, closer to a chuck than a blazer


Toe shape is the same as the low


Sole is functionally the same as the low


Pop cush is the same as ultracush


Heel lock is obviously better


They look great


If you didn't like the low you'll still not like these and vice versa



Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: ballintoohard on September 04, 2020, 10:54:18 AM
My first experience with a Gilby shoe is the high. I really like it. I normally skate Blazers and have preferred floppier shoes like CTAS and even Old Skools. The Old Skools always felt like they had floppy bulk to em and I normally don't like very many cups, but the wafflecup feels great actually. Supportive, but decent boardfeel and they have broken in well.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on September 04, 2020, 12:29:36 PM
Sole is functionally the same as the low


Functionally the same? Is it different? Thought it was a Wafflecup deal too.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: camel filters on September 04, 2020, 12:40:27 PM
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Functionally the same? Is it different? Thought it was a Wafflecup deal too.
Its the same. Source: I've had both.




Pop cush is the same as ultracush



popcush feels denser and didn't pack out in my 3 months with the rowans compared to ultracush. But if you told me it was in my head, I might not put up a fight.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on September 06, 2020, 07:47:39 AM
Thanks man.

I've had loads of Crockett 2s and am tempted by the those new high blue ones now.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: sammyz on September 22, 2020, 06:06:51 AM
After riding the rowley classics for about 2 months and saving it as much as possible with shoe goo, i pulled the trigger on a white/gum pair of rowans. I know it gets some harsh reviews...but the Rowley classics i had, which i wouldnt classify as a skate shoe were really good for me...so Iím thinking i may be looking for different things in shoes.

Should get them tomorrow...hoping it works out!
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: kenjiro on September 24, 2020, 12:28:41 PM
these new crockett high tops are my favorite shoes of the year. waffle cup is legit. my heel feels so locked in!
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Post by: jay_nev on September 24, 2020, 12:58:08 PM
these new crockett high tops are my favorite shoes of the year. waffle cup is legit. my heel feels so locked in!
how does the upper break in?  Start stiff? the black teal is sick
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: sammyz on September 24, 2020, 05:15:57 PM
Ive been looking for those crockett hiís, donít think theyíve made it to Australia yet...they seem really good...are they cup all the way or cup/vulc mix?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: moonordie on September 25, 2020, 03:41:11 AM



Pop cush is the same as ultracush



popcush feels denser and didn't pack out in my 3 months with the rowans compared to ultracush. But if you told me it was in my head, I might not put up a fight.
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It's not in your head, popcush is superior. Not "the same" as ultracush by any means.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: BALARGUE on September 25, 2020, 04:37:51 AM
Ive been looking for those crockett hiís, donít think theyíve made it to Australia yet...they seem really good...are they cup all the way or cup/vulc mix?

they call it Wafflecup
some sort of hybrid between vulc and cup
feels like a more durable vulc / better cushioning with a quicker break in phase than a classic cup
less board feel obviously
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Deekay on September 25, 2020, 06:06:20 AM
I haven't worn Vans in a while but those white/blue Crockett quasi's got me jazzed up. What's the word on sizing for those compared to regular authentics etc?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on September 25, 2020, 07:38:41 AM
I haven't worn Vans in a while but those white/blue Crockett quasi's got me jazzed up. What's the word on sizing for those compared to regular authentics etc?
TTS
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on September 25, 2020, 09:07:05 AM
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they call it Wafflecup
some sort of hybrid between vulc and cup
feels like a more durable vulc / better cushioning with a quicker break in phase than a classic cup
less board feel obviously

I've only skated in vulcs these last 15 years, am really picky when it comes to board feel and think Wafflecups don't take long to break in. Wear them to work for a week, skate them twice and they're perfect. The board feel is excellent.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Deekay on September 25, 2020, 10:19:20 AM
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I haven't worn Vans in a while but those white/blue Crockett quasi's got me jazzed up. What's the word on sizing for those compared to regular authentics etc?
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Thank you, my man.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on September 25, 2020, 11:26:43 AM
I wear the same size (11.5) in Half Cab Pros, Crocketts, SK8 Hi Pros and most shoes from the Pro range apart from Slip On Pros (go half a size up). So yeah Crocketts are true to size.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: BALARGUE on September 26, 2020, 01:42:46 AM
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Ive been looking for those crockett hiís, donít think theyíve made it to Australia yet...they seem really good...are they cup all the way or cup/vulc mix?
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they call it Wafflecup
some sort of hybrid between vulc and cup
feels like a more durable vulc / better cushioning with a quicker break in phase than a classic cup
less board feel obviously
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I've only skated in vulcs these last 15 years, am really picky when it comes to board feel and think Wafflecups don't take long to break in. Wear them to work for a week, skate them twice and they're perfect. The board feel is excellent.

yeah you're right, i should have been more precise by saying board feel is not like an old skool but it's still pretty good after the quick break-in
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: pops on September 26, 2020, 02:40:29 AM
Aside from Crockett 2 and Kwalks 1, other Vans shoes have been total poo for me. Rowans didn't fit me at all so can't say how they skate.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: moonordie on September 26, 2020, 05:39:47 AM
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Ive been looking for those crockett hiís, donít think theyíve made it to Australia yet...they seem really good...are they cup all the way or cup/vulc mix?
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they call it Wafflecup
some sort of hybrid between vulc and cup
feels like a more durable vulc / better cushioning with a quicker break in phase than a classic cup
less board feel obviously
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I've only skated in vulcs these last 15 years, am really picky when it comes to board feel and think Wafflecups don't take long to break in. Wear them to work for a week, skate them twice and they're perfect. The board feel is excellent.
Wafflecup is the best thing that ever happened to Vans
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on September 26, 2020, 09:00:19 PM
How do the Rowley Rapidwelds fit?
Would half a size down kill me?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on September 27, 2020, 12:31:03 AM

Wafflecup is the best thing that ever happened to Vans

Absolutely! I'll get a pair of SK8-Hi Pros every once in a while because I love how they look but Gilbies are ten times better to skate in. Favourite shoe these last years, I just wish they made more decent colourways. I'll never get tired of black with white sole but something spicier that doesn't look too Zumiez would be appreciated.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Vintagebody on September 27, 2020, 12:36:26 AM
Are the Gilberts heel area stiff/uncomfy as say Chima 2's?
I'd like to try the Crockett 2s, or highs for that matter
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on September 27, 2020, 05:19:50 AM
Are the Gilberts heel area stiff/uncomfy as say Chima 2's?
I'd like to try the Crockett 2s, or highs for that matters
not on the lows. Haven’t tried the high
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on September 28, 2020, 11:43:14 AM
Gilbies are well comfy.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: sadnocomply on September 28, 2020, 11:58:06 AM
I have 3 pairs of rowans, 3 pairs of Crockett Hiís, 2 style 36 proís, 2 uprise half cab pros, & 1 pair of AVEís. Vans has been treating me well lately lol
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: BS Boner on September 29, 2020, 01:48:23 AM
After riding the rowley classics for about 2 months and saving it as much as possible with shoe goo, i pulled the trigger on a white/gum pair of rowans. I know it gets some harsh reviews...but the Rowley classics i had, which i wouldnt classify as a skate shoe were really good for me...so Iím thinking i may be looking for different things in shoes.

Should get them tomorrow...hoping it works out!

I did the same thing, kept fixing my Rowley classics with shoe goo until I couldnít anymore... the sole kept blowing open at the toes.
Bought a pair of Aveís which were ok but kinda thin upper and quite solid cupsole for my liking.
Anyway, I just got a pair of the Rowley Rapiweldís and Iím stoked! The wafflecup holds the Rowleyís together More stable but still great board feel. The upper lost a bit of chunk but all in all I think theyíre perfect.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on September 29, 2020, 02:52:02 AM
Hearing the Crockett Hi's are more comfortable than the lows? Anything changed with padding? Or just more locked in with the ankle height, supportive? Less restriction from the high top would seem like it would be more comfortable to me.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: bigdave on September 29, 2020, 06:04:23 AM
Does anyone know if the Quasi Crockets are going to be sold by Vans ever? 13s apparently are sold out on the Quasi site. Sorry if this is a dumb question but new to this the-board-company-sells-the-shoes thing.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: nevrwasben on September 29, 2020, 06:27:21 AM
Does anyone know if the Quasi Crockets are going to be sold by Vans ever? 13s apparently are sold out on the Quasi site. Sorry if this is a dumb question but new to this the-board-company-sells-the-shoes thing.
As of right now, Cowtown has your size (in the black/teal)
https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/product_detail.cfm?CatID=10&PID=56818&SKU=157704&LinkID=1
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Post by: bigdave on September 29, 2020, 06:53:47 AM
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Does anyone know if the Quasi Crockets are going to be sold by Vans ever? 13s apparently are sold out on the Quasi site. Sorry if this is a dumb question but new to this the-board-company-sells-the-shoes thing.
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As of right now, Cowtown has your size (in the black/teal)
https://www.cowtownskateboards.com/product_detail.cfm?CatID=10&PID=56818&SKU=157704&LinkID=1


You rule. Truly. Thank you.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: DirtyHairHalo on September 29, 2020, 03:57:00 PM
I've had the Eras, Chimas, Slip ons, Gilbys and Rowans all in pro. The Gilbys were the only
ones that didn't fit for shit. Felt like the front of my foot was thrown in the ocean.
Rowans are dialed in for my fit and popcush is great.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: doublesteveburger on September 29, 2020, 03:59:20 PM
Rowans are by far the best skate shoe Iíve had all year. I usually blow through shoes every two or three weeks but these are lasting.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: sadnocomply on September 29, 2020, 07:28:19 PM
Rowans are by far the best skate shoe Iíve had all year. I usually blow through shoes every two or three weeks but these are lasting.
they would be foolish to discontinue them anytime soon. Seriously the best vans shoe in terms of durablility
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Hash Slinging Slasher on September 29, 2020, 08:16:54 PM
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Rowans are by far the best skate shoe Iíve had all year. I usually blow through shoes every two or three weeks but these are lasting.
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they would be foolish to discontinue them anytime soon. Seriously the best vans shoe in terms of durablility
i skated mine for close to 2.5 months straight and i'm about to skate them again. just hoping the sole didn't get much thinner than i remember... that would be the only thing stopping me.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mantracker on September 29, 2020, 09:12:50 PM
Crockett Highs are great! I'm a big fan of the wafflecup and I've been looking for a hightop that isn't vulc for a while

Can't comment on the fit vs. the lows as I havent had the lows.. but these are one of the comfiest pairs of shoes I've ever had

Would buy again
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on September 30, 2020, 07:38:13 AM
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Rowans are by far the best skate shoe Iíve had all year. I usually blow through shoes every two or three weeks but these are lasting.
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they would be foolish to discontinue them anytime soon. Seriously the best vans shoe in terms of durablility
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i skated mine for close to 2.5 months straight and i'm about to skate them again. just hoping the sole didn't get much thinner than i remember... that would be the only thing stopping me.

I've been skating mine since quarantine started and they look beat but still feel solid
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: camel filters on September 30, 2020, 09:09:11 AM
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Rowans are by far the best skate shoe Iíve had all year. I usually blow through shoes every two or three weeks but these are lasting.
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they would be foolish to discontinue them anytime soon. Seriously the best vans shoe in terms of durablility
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i skated mine for close to 2.5 months straight and i'm about to skate them again. just hoping the sole didn't get much thinner than i remember... that would be the only thing stopping me.
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I've been skating mine since quarantine started and they look beat but still feel solid
I only stopped skating my first pair after 3 months because I was tired of looking down at the same shoe. Skating another colorway of Rowans now.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on October 01, 2020, 08:27:19 AM
some new Fall colors and features added to vans.com

"wrapped" old skool and authentic?
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/wrapped-old-skool-pro-navy-marshmallow (https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/wrapped-old-skool-pro-navy-marshmallow)

"..."features sturdy suede uppers, high-wrapped foxing tape, enhanced sockliners.."

(https://i.ibb.co/CnJDX6c/image.png) (https://ibb.co/CnJDX6c)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on October 01, 2020, 08:29:20 AM
Not sure about the suede but the foxing is higher
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: bigdave on October 01, 2020, 09:41:10 AM
Slightly OT, but goddamnit Vans where's the snow site.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on October 01, 2020, 01:03:43 PM
Rowan getting the cool colourways (Port/White, Bronze/Antique), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).
Too bad Gilbies are my favorite shoes but I can't skate in Rowans (and yes, I have tried). Been dreaming of a beige/brown/bronze Gilbert with white sole for years. Oh well.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on October 01, 2020, 01:37:04 PM
Rowan getting the cool colourways (Port/White, Bronze/Antique), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).
Too bad Gilbies are my favorite shoes but I can't skate in Rowans (and yes, I have tried). Been dreaming of a beige/brown/bronze Gilbert with white sole for years. Oh well.
i know, I like the crockett 2's alot as well. Seems like they focused on the hi model this season i guess. and KWalker got like 3-4 colors of his first model plus a few in his 2nd.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Made In China on October 01, 2020, 02:09:23 PM
Rowan getting the cool colourways (Port/White, Bronze/Antique), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).
Too bad Gilbies are my favorite shoes but I can't skate in Rowans (and yes, I have tried). Been dreaming of a beige/brown/bronze Gilbert with white sole for years. Oh well.
To be fair, that new Crockett 2 colorway looks like something he would wear. I really like them myself but I can definitely understand why you wouldn't.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: trash on October 01, 2020, 03:01:02 PM
Probably not going to happen, but if they made the Berle in a mid or high I'd be a repeat buyer. I know some people weren't into them but I found them to be my favorite Vans "pros".
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: bigdave on October 01, 2020, 03:32:28 PM
), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).

Ordered the first day it was available and fucking love them. Thanks!
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Roald Dahnkle on October 02, 2020, 03:52:04 AM
If Vans would put out this colour in the Gilby High I'd be very happy....

(https://i.imgur.com/HvjN6xG.png)

It's not an unreasonable wish either, I could see it happening anyway.

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on October 02, 2020, 04:21:04 AM
If Vans would put out this colour in the Gilby High I'd be very happy....

(https://i.imgur.com/HvjN6xG.png)

It's not an unreasonable wish either, I could see it happening anyway.


yeah that would be sick. With extra black laces
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: moonordie on October 02, 2020, 05:14:56 AM
Probably not going to happen, but if they made the Berle in a mid or high I'd be a repeat buyer. I know some people weren't into them but I found them to be my favorite Vans "pros".
Ew
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: alonelikeastone on October 02, 2020, 06:42:22 AM
Iím going to cut and paste this from my insta about the Gil Highs.


I am so fucking picky about shoes. Itís a curse. I have been this way my whole lifeÖ I made my Mother cry over Duffs that were half size too big. My Dad threw airwalks at me on the front lawn. The first time I spent over 100 bucks was on Bo Jackson Nike Trainers in grade 8, my mom had to lie to my dad about the price. Anyhoo, the past few years I can not find a cup sole skate shoe that fits or feels right. I think vans pro highs are their sleeper shoe. It is perfect. But I CAN NOT rock a vulc shoe with my bunk back. All I want is a bouncy feeling sole with a supportive insole. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY a shoe I can put on and not think about. Which seems to be impossible as they all slip at the heel or have a puffy tongue that feels weird when tied up. Or one foot feels tight and the other loose, or they are too slim and it feels like my feet are being choked.
 I am happy to say my search is over. The Gilbert Crocket High is the best feeling shoe I have put on since Vans Fairlanes in the mid 90ís. Iím telling you this is the shoe. Put it on, tie it up, feel the comfort, and most importantly forget you have them on.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: PincherBug on October 02, 2020, 10:02:57 AM
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Probably not going to happen, but if they made the Berle in a mid or high I'd be a repeat buyer. I know some people weren't into them but I found them to be my favorite Vans "pros".
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Username checks out

Edit: jk Idk I havent tried the Berle pros, Ive read some bad things on here but with all the colorways coming out they must be selling a lot.  EliJAH is a douche, Id rather buy a product with Gilby or Chima's name on it.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on October 02, 2020, 10:46:43 AM
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Ordered the first day it was available and fucking love them. Thanks!

Haha, each to their own! Glad you like the, glad some people like skating in them.

Just started skating a pair of those green Half Cab Pros that came out last spring I think, loving this colourway. I wish Vans made something similar but with more beige bits, like that old Carroll pro shoe inspired by Airwalk Enigmas, with a white sole though. I can't wear black soles.

(https://www.dressinn.com/f/13734/137347162/vans-half-cab-pro.jpg)

(https://illpaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/8-VANS-Carroll.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4H3v44nJI7E/WnECssjEptI/AAAAAAAAfqE/GHPO0Gsb2tI5pMtKJjvc4BhzIy2sF5dvQCLcBGAs/s400/thisoneagain.jpg)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: trash on October 02, 2020, 10:58:03 AM
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Probably not going to happen, but if they made the Berle in a mid or high I'd be a repeat buyer. I know some people weren't into them but I found them to be my favorite Vans "pros".
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Edit: jk Idk I havent tried the Berle pros, Ive read some bad things on here but with all the colorways coming out they must be selling a lot.  EliJAH is a douche, Id rather buy a product with Gilby or Chima's name on it.

If you're not put off by the look, they're worth trying. A couple of the colorways are offensive but I like the black/white. Other than laces ripping they've held up really well.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: nevrwasben on October 02, 2020, 11:14:17 AM
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), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).
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Ordered the first day it was available and fucking love them. Thanks!
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Haha, each to their own! Glad you like the, glad some people like skating in them.

Just started skating a pair of those green Half Cab Pros that came out last spring I think, loving this colourway. I wish Vans made something similar but with more beige bits, like that old Carroll pro shoe inspired by Airwalk Enigmas, with a white sole though. I can't wear black soles.

(https://www.dressinn.com/f/13734/137347162/vans-half-cab-pro.jpg)

(https://illpaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/8-VANS-Carroll.jpg)

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4H3v44nJI7E/WnECssjEptI/AAAAAAAAfqE/GHPO0Gsb2tI5pMtKJjvc4BhzIy2sF5dvQCLcBGAs/s400/thisoneagain.jpg)
Agreed, black soles is a mind fuck for me
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: PincherBug on October 02, 2020, 11:22:05 AM
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Probably not going to happen, but if they made the Berle in a mid or high I'd be a repeat buyer. I know some people weren't into them but I found them to be my favorite Vans "pros".
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Edit: jk Idk I havent tried the Berle pros, Ive read some bad things on here but with all the colorways coming out they must be selling a lot.  EliJAH is a douche, Id rather buy a product with Gilby or Chima's name on it.
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If you're not put off by the look, they're worth trying. A couple of the colorways are offensive but I like the black/white. Other than laces ripping they've held up really well.

I loved the style 112 pros and the black/white colorway reminds me of them. Some of the colorways look good, I think its dumb how they dont have an insole. The Berle is Vans only shoe that uses that waffle control tech? Does it feel like a cupsole?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on October 02, 2020, 12:21:12 PM
They have a slip on with that same outsole.
It does feel like a cupsole shoe. One of the biggest issues is the fact that it attracts pebbles like a magnet.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: trash on October 02, 2020, 01:08:48 PM
They have a slip on with that same outsole.
It does feel like a cupsole shoe. One of the biggest issues is the fact that it attracts pebbles like a magnet.

100% on the pebbles. (Un)fortunately I've been a park rat since moving to a new area, but it can be a pain when skating street.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: moonordie on October 02, 2020, 03:26:12 PM
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They have a slip on with that same outsole.
It does feel like a cupsole shoe. One of the biggest issues is the fact that it attracts pebbles like a magnet.
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100% on the pebbles. (Un)fortunately I've been a park rat since moving to a new area, but it can be a pain when skating street.
Imagine if you setup into dog poop
God forbid.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on October 02, 2020, 03:37:20 PM
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They have a slip on with that same outsole.
It does feel like a cupsole shoe. One of the biggest issues is the fact that it attracts pebbles like a magnet.
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100% on the pebbles. (Un)fortunately I've been a park rat since moving to a new area, but it can be a pain when skating street.
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Imagine if you setup into dog poop
God forbid.
One of the bigger weaknesses. The flick takes getting used to but I enjoyed walking around in my pair.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on October 02, 2020, 03:56:51 PM
Berles do in fact pick up an unimaginable amount of pebbles. I downplayed the warnings on here, and was very frustrated the first time I wore them. A live and learn lesson for sure.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on October 04, 2020, 02:45:45 AM
How is the board feel with those Berle Pros compared to Crocketts or Half Cabs?
I don't really want to give Eli Berle any money but they remind me of the first Emerica JTs in a good way.

(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/WKX6BT-HERO?$583x583$)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: moonordie on October 04, 2020, 03:31:41 AM
How is the board feel with those Berle Pros compared to Crocketts or Half Cabs?
I don't really want to give Eli Berle any money but they remind me of the first Emerica JTs in a good way.

(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/WKX6BT-HERO?$583x583$)
To anybody wanting to try Berle pro: DON'T.
Weird flick, heavy af, weird and awkward sole which is a pebble magnet.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on October 04, 2020, 08:28:14 AM
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I don't really want to give Eli Berle any money but they remind me of the first Emerica JTs in a good way.
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To anybody wanting to try Berle pro: DON'T.
Weird flick, heavy af, weird and awkward sole which is a pebble magnet.

I wouldnít say donít. But theyíre better for walking around. The show feels supportive and like a sock.
But it is very far away from the Half-Cab. Iíd say itís in the opposite spectrum of the half cab. But somehow as heavy.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on October 04, 2020, 01:18:31 PM
Thanks gents. I'll stick to Half Cab Pros and Gilbies then.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on October 04, 2020, 01:26:15 PM
Thanks gents. I'll stick to Half Cab Pros and Gilbies then.
If you go to an outlet for Gibert and cabs and they offer you a free pair pick them up. Even if you hate them, theyíll be comfortable
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Made In China on October 04, 2020, 01:27:09 PM
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If Vans would put out this colour in the Gilby High I'd be very happy....

(https://i.imgur.com/HvjN6xG.png)

It's not an unreasonable wish either, I could see it happening anyway.


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yeah that would be sick. With extra black laces
Oh I would buy this colorway in a heartbeat. I could see it happening too, they did two similar colorways with the lows.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: trash on October 04, 2020, 02:28:40 PM
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How is the board feel with those Berle Pros compared to Crocketts or Half Cabs?
I don't really want to give Eli Berle any money but they remind me of the first Emerica JTs in a good way.

[img]https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/WKX6BT-HERO?$583x583$[img]
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To anybody wanting to try Berle pro: DON'T.
Weird flick, heavy af, weird and awkward sole which is a pebble magnet.

Disagree on all of the above except for pebble magnet, but to each their own. I'm not gear-nerd enough to weigh them, but they feel lighter than half cabs with about the same board feel. Can't speak to the Crocketts.

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on October 06, 2020, 10:31:25 AM
I love getting colorways from past seasons from the Vans site for cheap. By the time I skate them, nobody else has them and there's something I like about that for some reason. Maybe it's that feeling of having something exclusive and getting it for a good price, like a double win or something, haha.
Just got those grey Half Cab Pros, stoked on them but I haven't had grey shoes in decades and am not sure about how I'll feel looking at them while skating. Put white laces on for extra OG Half Cab power. Hhmm...

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0038/9709/8293/products/[email protected]?v=1578074513)
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Post by: jay_nev on October 06, 2020, 10:42:25 AM
I love getting colorways from past seasons from the Vans site for cheap. By the time I skate them, nobody else has them and there's something I like about that for some reason. Maybe it's that feeling of having something exclusive and getting it for a good price, like a double win or something, haha.
Just got those grey Half Cab Pros, stoked on them but I haven't had grey shoes in decades and am not sure about how I'll feel looking at them while skating. Put white laces on for extra OG Half Cab power. Hhmm...

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0038/9709/8293/products/[email protected]?v=1578074513)
those were discounted on vans.com? Really clean pair.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Seventyfrigginseven on October 06, 2020, 10:50:43 AM
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How is the board feel with those Berle Pros compared to Crocketts or Half Cabs?
I don't really want to give Eli Berle any money but they remind me of the first Emerica JTs in a good way.

[img]https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/WKX6BT-HERO?$583x583$[img]
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To anybody wanting to try Berle pro: DON'T.
Weird flick, heavy af, weird and awkward sole which is a pebble magnet.
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Disagree on all of the above except for pebble magnet, but to each their own. I'm not gear-nerd enough to weigh them, but they feel lighter than half cabs with about the same board feel. Can't speak to the Crocketts.
The pebble magnet aspect is the ONLY thing I dislike about this shoe personally. Where I live is crusty as hell so it is a problem, but this time of year I have to sweep my spots so it hasn't been as bad of an issue the last couple sessions. Everything else about the shoe works good for me.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: fs1/2cab on October 06, 2020, 10:58:07 AM
How long does it take you guys for the half cab pros to mold to your feet shape?

First time vans and half cab pros for me.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on October 06, 2020, 11:08:58 AM

those were discounted on vans.com? Really clean pair.

I got them from the Euro site as I live in Switzerland. Got a pair of the green ones from last spring's collection too. 30% off. Stoked.

(https://www.companybe.com/Uprise/product_photos/rd_images/rd_Feb20VansHalfCabLizardEucalyptus2.jpg)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on October 06, 2020, 11:11:24 AM
How long does it take you guys for the half cab pros to mold to your feet shape?

First time vans and half cab pros for me.

They take a tad longer to break in than Crocketts. I usually wear mine at work for about a week, which is enough for them to mold to your feet well. Then after that after two hours of skating they're pretty much perfect.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: DCLOVE on October 06, 2020, 11:44:42 AM
I love getting colorways from past seasons from the Vans site for cheap. By the time I skate them, nobody else has them and there's something I like about that for some reason. Maybe it's that feeling of having something exclusive and getting it for a good price, like a double win or something, haha.
Just got those grey Half Cab Pros, stoked on them but I haven't had grey shoes in decades and am not sure about how I'll feel looking at them while skating. Put white laces on for extra OG Half Cab power. Hhmm...

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0038/9709/8293/products/[email protected]?v=1578074513)

I do that too! If itís a shoe I like with a color way I donít I just some fabric paint to em and make a custom color way.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mcidraque on October 07, 2020, 12:56:45 AM
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those were discounted on vans.com? Really clean pair.
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I got them from the Euro site as I live in Switzerland. Got a pair of the green ones from last spring's collection too. 30% off. Stoked.

(https://www.companybe.com/Uprise/product_photos/rd_images/rd_Feb20VansHalfCabLizardEucalyptus2.jpg)

35% off on the Spanish vans site hehe just grabbed a pair
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on October 07, 2020, 01:45:50 AM
Ah yeah, I got mine with 35% off too, good shit.

The sale stuff on the Euro Vans site is worth checking out regularly, sometimes a pair of your favourite shoes randomly appears in one size only at half price. Shit like that is rare but always really satisfying if you're a shoe nerd. Got a pair of black Crocketts with white sole at half price the other day!
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: off on October 07, 2020, 08:44:55 PM
how are the half cabs pros as chillers? havent owned a pair since middle school or so, dont remember how they feel at all.

scared of going back to skating vulcs with my scoliosis, herniated disc, and at risk knees. wouldnt mind them as shit kickers if they are semi comfortable though
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: TastyBurrito on October 07, 2020, 09:21:46 PM
how are the half cabs pros as chillers? havent owned a pair since middle school or so, dont remember how they feel at all.

scared of going back to skating vulcs with my scoliosis, herniated disc, and at risk knees. wouldnt mind them as shit kickers if they are semi comfortable though

Personally, I like the Berles as chillers.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Live Fast Johnny on October 12, 2020, 05:36:17 PM
To anyone who has tried the Crockett Hi's, how does the sizing run?

I had to go down .5 in the AVE's for length and it made the sides fit really tight.  Wondering if those were similar.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: fredgallSOTY on October 12, 2020, 06:04:45 PM
just put some Lunarlon in my Rowans and whew boy what a difference!!! that shit FUCKS
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: kneebone on October 13, 2020, 09:59:42 AM
just put some Lunarlon in my Rowans and whew boy what a difference!!! that shit FUCKS
swapping out the vans pro insoles for lunarlon insoles has been my go-to move for a couple years now.  Perfect match.  Too bad lunarlon is no longer in production.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: w425 on October 13, 2020, 10:03:53 AM
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Itís funny how the Rowan looks like Rowan took the time to come up with a shoe with the design team while the Berle looks like the design department came up with something and gave it to him.
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I was thinking the opposite - Berle has a unique sole design. Rowan's shoe has the same thing as team models but they're pretending its new tech by changing the name to pop cush and claiming a new rubber formula (which if it were different/better, they'd use it on all the models, not just his.)

They have indeed "used it" on all models, but it's just the new name for ultracush lmao. Just marketing kinda annoying but I'm okay with it as long as they keep making quality shoes.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: lemonchicken91 on October 15, 2020, 03:46:27 PM
the pop Kush is much better than the ultraKush from what i've heard not the same
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: ungzilla on October 15, 2020, 07:42:05 PM
it is absolutely identical
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: loosenuts on October 15, 2020, 07:56:30 PM
pop cush feels softer when you touch it with your fingers but when you're standing on it with your entire body weight, it feels the same as ultra cush and whatever perceived difference is negligible
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: DarkPools on October 16, 2020, 12:37:49 AM
it is absolutely identical
100% agree. Tried on two different KWalks at a Vans outlet in January. One Pop Cush and one Ultracush. Pop felt only marginally better for the first 30 seconds to a minute, then they felt exactly like Ultracush.
For anyone thinking Pop cush is drastically better/different from Ultra, don't be fooled by the marketing!
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: camel filters on October 16, 2020, 06:40:31 AM
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it is absolutely identical
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100% agree. Tried on two different KWalks at a Vans outlet in January. One Pop Cush and one Ultracush. Pop felt only marginally better for the first 30 seconds to a minute, then they felt exactly like Ultracush.
For anyone thinking Pop cush is drastically better/different from Ultra, don't be fooled by the marketing!
Trying on for at a shoe vs skating a shoe to completion is different. Might be a placebo but my Rowans haven't mushed out after 2 months of skating while ultra used to flatten out for me at about a month mark. Still might be marketing but your first impression comparison doesn't prove it.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: RossDailey on October 16, 2020, 04:23:27 PM
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it is absolutely identical
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100% agree. Tried on two different KWalks at a Vans outlet in January. One Pop Cush and one Ultracush. Pop felt only marginally better for the first 30 seconds to a minute, then they felt exactly like Ultracush.
For anyone thinking Pop cush is drastically better/different from Ultra, don't be fooled by the marketing!
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Trying on for at a shoe vs skating a shoe to completion is different. Might be a placebo but my Rowans haven't mushed out after 2 months of skating while ultra used to flatten out for me at about a month mark. Still might be marketing but your first impression comparison doesn't prove it.

I've been re-using the same ultra cush insoles for about 9 months in different shoes.

There's no flattening out

I've done this w/ other ultra cush hd insoles for the past 5 years (they usually last about a year)

There's negligible amounts of flattening out, they just get crusty.

The pop cush in the Rowans packed out after about 2 months.

So basically, I have the exact opposite experience as you have had.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: camel filters on October 16, 2020, 07:22:15 PM
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it is absolutely identical
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100% agree. Tried on two different KWalks at a Vans outlet in January. One Pop Cush and one Ultracush. Pop felt only marginally better for the first 30 seconds to a minute, then they felt exactly like Ultracush.
For anyone thinking Pop cush is drastically better/different from Ultra, don't be fooled by the marketing!
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Trying on for at a shoe vs skating a shoe to completion is different. Might be a placebo but my Rowans haven't mushed out after 2 months of skating while ultra used to flatten out for me at about a month mark. Still might be marketing but your first impression comparison doesn't prove it.
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I've been re-using the same ultra cush insoles for about 9 months in different shoes.

There's no flattening out

I've done this w/ other ultra cush hd insoles for the past 5 years (they usually last about a year)

There's negligible amounts of flattening out, they just get crusty.

The pop cush in the Rowans packed out after about 2 months.

So basically, I have the exact opposite experience as you have had.
Welp I don't know what to think then. Maybe our feets and weight distrobution just are completely different. Fuck I'm gonna rethink all my life decisions now.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: con_hielo on October 18, 2020, 11:40:50 AM
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it is absolutely identical
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100% agree. Tried on two different KWalks at a Vans outlet in January. One Pop Cush and one Ultracush. Pop felt only marginally better for the first 30 seconds to a minute, then they felt exactly like Ultracush.
For anyone thinking Pop cush is drastically better/different from Ultra, don't be fooled by the marketing!
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Trying on for at a shoe vs skating a shoe to completion is different. Might be a placebo but my Rowans haven't mushed out after 2 months of skating while ultra used to flatten out for me at about a month mark. Still might be marketing but your first impression comparison doesn't prove it.
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I've been re-using the same ultra cush insoles for about 9 months in different shoes.

There's no flattening out

I've done this w/ other ultra cush hd insoles for the past 5 years (they usually last about a year)

There's negligible amounts of flattening out, they just get crusty.

The pop cush in the Rowans packed out after about 2 months.

So basically, I have the exact opposite experience as you have had.

Same here, my feets feel kinda loose with the popcush insoles, i've had to switch them for the ultracush ones in my old skool pro. Its seems like Vans is kinda pulling out new models with the ultracush insoles still tho. I wish it is the case  'cause they are the only shoes (old skool pro with ultracush) that fit me sniff. Anyone have insights on it ?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: fredgallSOTY on October 18, 2020, 07:44:23 PM
my pop cush in my Rowans packed out in about a month of constant skating, replaced em with Lunarlon.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on November 04, 2020, 06:20:04 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHJTR5nl1aa/?igshid=8tvp9m43y5c1

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHLZ38flb95/?igshid=61f3ewuc7c2z
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on November 05, 2020, 05:02:28 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHJTR5nl1aa/?igshid=8tvp9m43y5c1


For fuck's sake. Keep those silly colourways for goth kids in the regular range and give us more dope colourways for the Pro Series (tan with white sole please).
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Crap on November 05, 2020, 05:10:05 AM
Put me in jail, I like the purple Half Cabs.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on November 05, 2020, 05:29:25 AM
wasn't Bam rocking those purple Half-Cabs for awhile?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on November 05, 2020, 06:38:55 AM
wasn't Bam rocking those purple Half-Cabs for awhile?

*Starts playing 96 Quite Bitter beings on speaker
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: FrozenIndustries on November 05, 2020, 06:47:59 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHJTR5nl1aa/?igshid=8tvp9m43y5c1

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHLZ38flb95/?igshid=61f3ewuc7c2z

I had the 112 Pros in that marshmallow/gum color way and they were maybe my favorite skate shoes ever. I wish Vans didn't discontinue them.

Also people who don't think that purple color looks good are tripping. They'd be hot with some green/brown/tan chinos and a pocket tee.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Crap on November 06, 2020, 04:26:08 AM
wasn't Bam rocking those purple Half-Cabs for awhile?

Not sure if there's more recent Bam footage that I haven't seen, but I think he was wearing the burgundy full cabs in his Epicly Later'd.
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/6KUJ6Q-HERO?$583x583$)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: nevrwasben on November 06, 2020, 05:22:25 PM
Just waiting on more good Sk8-low Colorways....
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 07, 2020, 08:13:37 AM
Copped a cheap pair of Rowans to skate in on Poshmark. Was excited to get them. Then got package jacked by a porch pirate. Yay.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on November 16, 2020, 02:42:07 PM
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/11-4-20Vans-Era-Pro-Green-Black-2.jpg?v=1604616200)




(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/11-4-20Vans-Slip-On-Pro-Tan-2w.jpg?v=1604616022)




(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/11-4-20Vans-Slip-On-Pro-Grey-Black-2w.jpg?v=1604615651)




(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0563/1361/products/11-4-20Vans-Rowan-Pro-Tan-2.jpg?v=1604616113)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Made In China on November 17, 2020, 11:03:48 AM
Vans is doing a really good job with these recent colorways. They're relatively simple, yet still unique. And yes I do really like that purple Half Cab Pro colorway too.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Madam, I'm Adam on November 17, 2020, 11:22:27 AM
Put me in jail, I like the purple Half Cabs.

You under arrest, sugar.


Is there any update on Half-Cab Pros without the foxing stripe, that resemble the normal ones? Saw that awhile back.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Firebert on November 17, 2020, 11:28:01 AM
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Put me in jail, I like the purple Half Cabs.
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You under arrest, sugar.

Is there any update on Half-Cab Pros without the foxing stripe, that resemble the normal ones? Saw that awhile back.
Yeah, they're gonna make em a cupsole and slap Reynolds' name on em.

Just kidding. But one can dream....
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: franc on November 19, 2020, 11:17:35 AM
Holy shit, I need these.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHyIWs9Af6W/
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: arrbee on November 19, 2020, 11:23:26 AM
Holy shit, I need these.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHyIWs9Af6W/

Came to post these
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: sadnocomply on November 19, 2020, 11:44:21 AM
I have 7 pairs of Crockett hiís (mostly quasi editions)
2 pair of half cabs pros
5 pairs of Rowans
1 pair of AVE
& 2 pair of style 36 pros to blow through....

Vans has me by the balls  :o
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: thefriscokid on November 22, 2020, 07:03:01 PM
I tried out the Rowans , the first session out the box had a great time skating in them and they felt amazing.

The upper part is A+, probably my favorite vans besides the Tnt 5 nubuck leather, the way they grip the top of my foot feels amazing and I love the laces, I can see them lasting a long time.

My one thing though is that damn Vans sole, I will never get past how soft and thin that Vans sole gets, its instantly feels weak under my feet and every damn bail hurts. I just cant understand why they cant make a stronger sole that can take a true impact. Compared to my Tyshawns it felt like i was skating paper shoes, i know its a cupsole compared to vulcanized but you know what I mean, Vans soles blow out in 3 weeks tops. I can only skate them once a month like a fun way to switch up the boardfeel or to the liquor store. Love em but hate em, classic california style
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Croquet temper on November 23, 2020, 07:35:56 AM
I tried out the Rowans , the first session out the box had a great time skating in them and they felt amazing.

The upper part is A+, probably my favorite vans besides the Tnt 5 nubuck leather, the way they grip the top of my foot feels amazing and I love the laces, I can see them lasting a long time.

My one thing though is that damn Vans sole, I will never get past how soft and thin that Vans sole gets, its instantly feels weak under my feet and every damn bail hurts. I just cant understand why they cant make a stronger sole that can take a true impact. Compared to my Tyshawns it felt like i was skating paper shoes, i know its a cupsole compared to vulcanized but you know what I mean, Vans soles blow out in 3 weeks tops. I can only skate them once a month like a fun way to switch up the boardfeel or to the liquor store. Love em but hate em, classic california style

I like the Rowans and I think I've gotten used to the vulc shoe foot pain initiation.

That Ultimate Waffle sole on the AVE pros is actually really nice. You'll have boardfeel but without the feet beatings. I got them for half price but probably still won't skate in them because of how delicate the mesh on them seems. Like they'd skate amazingly well for a week, and then your socks will be hitting griptape. I don't know why they couldn't have just used canvas or just anything more durable than what they ended up using, it's a real shame because other than that, they feel great for skating.

I wore the AVE pros while walking a dirt path in the woods and a twig bumped into the side of the shoe, breaking some of the fibers and you could really tell how delicate that tissue paper mesh is. Putting that on a skate shoe with a $100 price tag is fucking criminal if you ask me.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: ungzilla on November 23, 2020, 08:03:29 AM
so far the ave pro are up there with the most durable shoes i've ever skated, obviously will depend on where your ollie spot is but for me the mesh is basically unaffected after 2 months of frequent skating and the soles still have lots of life
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Croquet temper on November 23, 2020, 08:11:10 AM
so far the ave pro are up there with the most durable shoes i've ever skated, obviously will depend on where your ollie spot is but for me the mesh is basically unaffected after 2 months of frequent skating and the soles still have lots of life

I was thinking any heelflip tricks would end up really fucking up that mesh area towards the rear midfoot that's just a thin layer between the sock and the board. The toe area seems flawless for sure. Maybe I'll give them a shot.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: TastyBurrito on November 23, 2020, 08:46:31 AM
I have 7 pairs of Crockett hiís (mostly quasi editions)
2 pair of half cabs pros
5 pairs of Rowans
1 pair of AVE
& 2 pair of style 36 pros to blow through....

Vans has me by the balls  :o

Vans got my balls in a vice grip as well.
I have:
1 pair Crockett Hi
1 pair World Peace
2 pairs of Rowans
2 pairs of Berles
2 pairs of AVEs
1 pair of Walker 1s
2 pairs of Eras to blow through.
Not including my authentics and slip-ons for daily walking the dogs shoes.

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on December 11, 2020, 08:26:15 AM
new AVE pro, first time theyve done split color blocking
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/BT7HR0-HERO?$583x583$)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: stets on December 11, 2020, 09:17:23 PM
new AVE pro, first time theyve done split color blocking
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/BT7HR0-HERO?$583x583$)

First time they've done a decent split color blocking... lest we forget these ones that had potential ACG vibes but kinda missed the mark:
(https://scontent.fhio2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p526x296/78465340_10157509751906539_5959464811954700288_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=zOTrJ1Bq5vEAX-zycTV&_nc_ht=scontent.fhio2-2.fna&tp=6&oh=b6507dbbdfcfdc6e6b41adf458149948&oe=5FF9340D)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on December 12, 2020, 09:01:15 AM
I know itís been talked about already but, Iím skating the Rowans. I got them at the Outlet and got the khaki/black foxing tape. I usually go for white foxing tape but got these for free, not sure if it affects anything but... fuck the flick is good. I went from the Fastbreak to these and theyíre good. The first kickflip I did felt good and itís stayed like that. It looks a little weird and so is the weird mid cut. But overall itís a good feeling skate shoe. Iím a fan.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: figureitout on December 12, 2020, 04:44:36 PM
wasn't Bam rocking those purple Half-Cabs for awhile?

Guaranteed Mudman specials
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Toadfish Rebecchi on December 12, 2020, 04:51:18 PM
I want to get those purple half cabs and chuck some white laces in them. They remind me of the purple chukkas Tim Gavin skates in Tim & Henryís.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Croquet temper on December 12, 2020, 05:22:32 PM
I know itís been talked about already but, Iím skating the Rowans. I got them at the Outlet and got the khaki/black foxing tape. I usually go for white foxing tape but got these for free, not sure if it affects anything but... fuck the flick is good. I went from the Fastbreak to these and theyíre good. The first kickflip I did felt good and itís stayed like that. It looks a little weird and so is the weird mid cut. But overall itís a good feeling skate shoe. Iím a fan.

I hope the Rowans keep getting made for some time. They also fit me true to size with perfection, which is nice.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Phantasma Del Mar on December 12, 2020, 06:33:36 PM
I want to get those purple half cabs and chuck some white laces in them. They remind me of the purple chukkas Tim Gavin skates in Tim & Henryís.

https://thepremierstore.com/products/chukka-49-dx-anaheim-factory
 I thought the same thing. Turns out you can even get a step closer! These need to be in constant rotation IMO
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: DarkPools on December 12, 2020, 10:01:29 PM
The AVEs are so close to being a perfect Van's shoe for me. The sole is good (performance-wise, looks with the translucent thing aside) and they look good/feel comfortable. Flick is good and consistent. However, the mesh is  in some stupid spots and is stupid thin (hurts if something hits you there), the heel/ankle collar has almost no padding so it feels flimsy and not as supportive back there as I'd like. Basically, the shoes feel kinda dainty for what I thought they were going to be.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on December 12, 2020, 10:31:59 PM
The AVEs are so close to being a perfect Van's shoe for me. The sole is good (performance-wise, looks with the translucent thing aside) and they look good/feel comfortable. Flick is good and consistent. However, the mesh is  in some stupid spots and is stupid thin (hurts if something hits you there), the heel/ankle collar has almost no padding so it feels flimsy and not as supportive back there as I'd like. Basically, the shoes feel kinda dainty for what I thought they were going to be.
Iíll take the pain, accidents happen. But as a fan of heelflips, the collar doesnít feel as durable as the rest of the shoe. My sole went bald and the grip wasnít affected.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Croquet temper on December 13, 2020, 03:09:10 AM
The AVEs are so close to being a perfect Van's shoe for me. The sole is good (performance-wise, looks with the translucent thing aside) and they look good/feel comfortable. Flick is good and consistent. However, the mesh is  in some stupid spots and is stupid thin (hurts if something hits you there), the heel/ankle collar has almost no padding so it feels flimsy and not as supportive back there as I'd like. Basically, the shoes feel kinda dainty for what I thought they were going to be.

I'm glad I got them for half price. I walked over a pile of leaves while wearing them and a twig poked a little hole in the mesh pretty easily. They feel good on your feet for skating, but I can see them blowing out fast in areas that don't usually blow out on a shoe, especially if you heelflip at all your sock might be peeking out the side pretty fast, which is fucked a for a shoe with a pro's name on it that goes for $100.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Frank on December 13, 2020, 08:22:29 PM
those updated aves looked pretty sick. the ones that look a bit like rowley rapid welds. anyone know when they come out?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Toadfish Rebecchi on December 13, 2020, 08:45:20 PM
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I want to get those purple half cabs and chuck some white laces in them. They remind me of the purple chukkas Tim Gavin skates in Tim & Henryís.
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https://thepremierstore.com/products/chukka-49-dx-anaheim-factory
 I thought the same thing. Turns out you can even get a step closer! These need to be in constant rotation IMO

Oh wow! Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: ballintoohard on December 13, 2020, 09:27:10 PM
so what is all the talk about the pros and OG's being different and the former being worse now?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: arrbee on December 14, 2020, 05:15:25 PM
Shitty photoshop to convince vans to make a move.

(https://i.imgur.com/messDHs.jpg)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: lemonchicken91 on December 14, 2020, 05:37:30 PM
That's dope! Would be an instant buy for me

I almost have gotten the Kyle walkers 2 times and the big ass patch on the tongue has talked me out of it

It would probably be easy to remove you think?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on December 14, 2020, 05:44:28 PM
That's dope! Would be an instant buy for me

I almost have gotten the Kyle walkers 2 times and the big ass patch on the tongue has talked me out of it

It would probably be easy to remove you think?
not really. Looks thoroughly stitched in might have better luck cutting it cleanly along the stitching edge.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on December 14, 2020, 05:44:55 PM
Shitty photoshop to convince vans to make a move.

(https://i.imgur.com/messDHs.jpg)
looks good.. good enough to buy
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: camel filters on December 14, 2020, 08:06:20 PM
Didn't they make low cabs that were cupsoles years back? I remember scott kane maybe had a colorway.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: arrbee on December 14, 2020, 08:07:20 PM
Didn't they make low cabs that were cupsoles years back? I remember scott kane maybe had a colorway.

They did. That sole was shit

https://sneakernews.com/2009/04/21/vans-low-cab-croc-suede-blue-black-red/
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: sammyz on December 14, 2020, 11:49:58 PM
Ive had rowans for about 1.5month...from a above the sole perspective, the most durable shoe so far...but the sole is really starting to feel soft, no structure and flat...which sucks.

I had a pair of Berleís, which i didnt get for skating but im gonna switch it in, the sole on it feels pretty tough...i wish rowans had that sole.

They should make like a BMX Rowan...same shoe and that BMX sole...and make the off-white gum colourway again
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 15, 2020, 02:09:53 AM
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They did. That sole was shit

https://sneakernews.com/2009/04/21/vans-low-cab-croc-suede-blue-black-red/

That period was very bad, the super thin soles with the little hard triangle where the arch / primo spot is.

I still have some of the normal cupsoles in light tan / khaki colour, just wore them a bit as chillers but by that time I was wearing lots of other types, but they were a different shoe.  This is the closest, I think:

https://www.the-house.com/vn0lc09bf7zz-vans-skate-shoes.html

I also had a pair or more of these Lo Cab in the video, which were like the Fairlane that Ray Barbee made very popular, same sole and same period.  Vid says they are 1994 but I think I had them a bit later than that.  That might have been the closest shoe to the Es Accel which was one of the cleanest looking shoes and skated really well too.

A lot of people were pretty keen to see this sort of shoe come back, which might be the best of both worlds with the extra support in the BMX sole versions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciRbzjMEPvE
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: LewFarrell on December 15, 2020, 01:38:02 PM
That's dope! Would be an instant buy for me

I almost have gotten the Kyle walkers 2 times and the big ass patch on the tongue has talked me out of it

It would probably be easy to remove you think?

I never noticed how much I didn't like it until you mentioned it...

Wasn't hard to remove, took less than 10 mins total for both shoes. I just pulled out the stitches from the front with a blade. Only lame part is the rivets are real, I ripped 'em out but it did leave two tiny holes. Probably just going to toss a dab of shoe goo on it.

They're great shoes, these are my third pair. Not as bulky as the Berle's and doesn't have the 'pebble magnet' sole either (literally would carry one of those metal dab tools to pry rocks out at the spot). I would consider them on the wide end of a medium width and TTS.

shalom and free max b
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: lemonchicken91 on December 15, 2020, 02:11:34 PM
My guy! Sorry to bring the patch into your awareness nhaha good job though
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: SKATELYNJENNER on December 15, 2020, 03:13:01 PM
I wish Vanís would release the full cab pro again minus the goofy faux animal skin. I am stoked on the Rowley Pro being out again though, gonna have to cop a few pairs.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on December 15, 2020, 05:04:33 PM
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That's dope! Would be an instant buy for me

I almost have gotten the Kyle walkers 2 times and the big ass patch on the tongue has talked me out of it

It would probably be easy to remove you think?
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I never noticed how much I didn't like it until you mentioned it...

Wasn't hard to remove, took less than 10 mins total for both shoes. I just pulled out the stitches from the front with a blade. Only lame part is the rivets are real, I ripped 'em out but it did leave two tiny holes. Probably just going to toss a dab of shoe goo on it.

They're great shoes, these are my third pair. Not as bulky as the Berle's and doesn't have the 'pebble magnet' sole either (literally would carry one of those metal dab tools to pry rocks out at the spot). I would consider them on the wide end of a medium width and TTS.

shalom and free max b
nice work, way better. thread puller?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: LewFarrell on December 16, 2020, 08:47:13 PM
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That's dope! Would be an instant buy for me

I almost have gotten the Kyle walkers 2 times and the big ass patch on the tongue has talked me out of it

It would probably be easy to remove you think?
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I never noticed how much I didn't like it until you mentioned it...

Wasn't hard to remove, took less than 10 mins total for both shoes. I just pulled out the stitches from the front with a blade. Only lame part is the rivets are real, I ripped 'em out but it did leave two tiny holes. Probably ju

st going to toss a dab of shoe goo on it.

They're great shoes, these are my third pair. Not as bulky as the Berle's and doesn't have the 'pebble magnet' sole either (literally would carry one of those metal dab tools to pry rocks out at the spot). I would consider them on the wide end of a medium width and TTS.

shalom and free max b
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nice work, way better. thread puller?

Nah not even that fancy, I just used an exacto knife and picked the stitch out from the front until it was loose. For the rivets i cut the leather patch down the middle so each side was connected to one rivet, spun it around a few times to loosen it up and ripped it off with brute force and ignorance.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 17, 2020, 02:30:22 AM
I wish Vanís would release the full cab pro again minus the goofy faux animal skin. I am stoked on the Rowley Pro being out again though, gonna have to cop a few pairs.

The synthetic material of the OG Rowleys were a bit of a pain and would shred easily, but the new versions seem like he is back on the meat wagon, full suede and works well.  The sole is thinner in the new Rowley shoe though, with only the thin fixed insole, but that might appeal to some people as well, but might be a pain to others.

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: SKATELYNJENNER on December 17, 2020, 04:57:12 AM
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I wish Vanís would release the full cab pro again minus the goofy faux animal skin. I am stoked on the Rowley Pro being out again though, gonna have to cop a few pairs.
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The synthetic material of the OG Rowleys were a bit of a pain and would shred easily, but the new versions seem like he is back on the meat wagon, full suede and works well.  The sole is thinner in the new Rowley shoe though, with only the thin fixed insole, but that might appeal to some people as well, but might be a pain to others.

I usually prefer the ultracush insoles but Iíll still give the new ones a try. I think the Rowley Pro is one of the best looking shoes ever.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: camel filters on December 17, 2020, 07:22:16 AM
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I wish Vanís would release the full cab pro again minus the goofy faux animal skin. I am stoked on the Rowley Pro being out again though, gonna have to cop a few pairs.
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The synthetic material of the OG Rowleys were a bit of a pain and would shred easily, but the new versions seem like he is back on the meat wagon, full suede and works well.  The sole is thinner in the new Rowley shoe though, with only the thin fixed insole, but that might appeal to some people as well, but might be a pain to others.
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I usually prefer the ultracush insoles but Iíll still give the new ones a try. I think the Rowley Pro is one of the best looking shoes ever.
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/rowley-rapidweld-pro-navy-white#hero=4
This version is a waffle cup with ultracush according to the site. Does it feel thin? I have a pair of the crockett highs and I love the feeling of the sole. wondering if we have the same metric for what feels thin.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Jory4 on December 17, 2020, 08:41:52 AM
Iíve got both the rowley rapidweld and some crocket 2s (ultracush)  in rotation at the moment.

The rowley definitely feels slightly thinner in the sole and overall more lightweight. They definitely feel more supportive and ďtechĒ than a regular vans pro classic show though. The Crockett s feel slightly thicker in the forefoot and slightly cusher round the heel. 

Hope that makes sense.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: camel filters on December 17, 2020, 08:58:18 AM
Iíve got both the rowley rapidweld and some crocket 2s (ultracush)  in rotation at the moment.

The rowley definitely feels slightly thinner in the sole and overall more lightweight. They definitely feel more supportive and ďtechĒ than a regular vans pro classic show though. The Crockett s feel slightly thicker in the forefoot and slightly cusher round the heel. 

Hope that makes sense.
It does, thank you. Rowley's look mighty tempting but I need to keep my head in the game skating through all the shoes i have already.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Murge on December 17, 2020, 09:18:56 AM
Damn I want those rowleys. Had xlts when I was a kid. And they ripped so fast. My mom was so bummed.  I want these but I got crocketts coming.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Croquet temper on December 17, 2020, 06:06:17 PM
Damn I want those rowleys. Had xlts when I was a kid. And they ripped so fast. My mom was so bummed.  I want these but I got crocketts coming.

XLTs, bummin moms since 2001, yo

Those Quasi Crocketts with the navy/green colorway were fucking excellent.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: pointandclick on December 17, 2020, 06:20:18 PM
these were way better than people gave them credit for.
(http://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61GDoJCaIeL._AC_UY395_.jpg]http://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61GDoJCaIeL._AC_UY395_.jpg)
(http://images.evo.com/imgp/zoom/72419/348527/vans-rowley-pro-lite-shoes--front.jpg]http://images.evo.com/imgp/zoom/72419/348527/vans-rowley-pro-lite-shoes--front.jpg)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 17, 2020, 08:38:54 PM
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I wish Vanís would release the full cab pro again minus the goofy faux animal skin. I am stoked on the Rowley Pro being out again though, gonna have to cop a few pairs.
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The synthetic material of the OG Rowleys were a bit of a pain and would shred easily, but the new versions seem like he is back on the meat wagon, full suede and works well.  The sole is thinner in the new Rowley shoe though, with only the thin fixed insole, but that might appeal to some people as well, but might be a pain to others.
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I usually prefer the ultracush insoles but Iíll still give the new ones a try. I think the Rowley Pro is one of the best looking shoes ever.
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https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/rowley-rapidweld-pro-navy-white#hero=4
This version is a waffle cup with ultracush according to the site. Does it feel thin? I have a pair of the crockett highs and I love the feeling of the sole. wondering if we have the same metric for what feels thin.

The wafflecup is amazing and another step up in the quality department, but the regular Rowley Pro that is out is more the normal pro Vans sole look, only thinner, as in the simple waffle sole is a few mm less than the regular pro waffle sole.

See the difference between Pro Rowley rapidweld with the wafflecup sole (especially the heel)

(https://i.ibb.co/HrqmJ1w/Vans-wafflecup-sole.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HrqmJ1w)

And the normal pro Rowley with normal pro sole

(https://i.ibb.co/mh1s5y0/Vans-Rowley-pro.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mh1s5y0)

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 17, 2020, 08:50:02 PM
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), Gilbert getting weird ones nobody wants (Hedge Green with a dark gum sole, fuck me).
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Ordered the first day it was available and fucking love them. Thanks!
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Haha, each to their own! Glad you like the, glad some people like skating in them.

Just started skating a pair of those green Half Cab Pros that came out last spring I think, loving this colourway. I wish Vans made something similar but with more beige bits, like that old Carroll pro shoe inspired by Airwalk Enigmas, with a white sole though. I can't wear black soles.

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4H3v44nJI7E/WnECssjEptI/AAAAAAAAfqE/GHPO0Gsb2tI5pMtKJjvc4BhzIy2sF5dvQCLcBGAs/s400/thisoneagain.jpg)

Just looking for Rowleys and came across that throwback colourway too.

Not my thing but the shoe is clean looking - the Rowley Freedome version or something like that.

(https://i.ibb.co/ZgGvHSz/Vans-FREEDOME-PAIR-2-1024x1024.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZgGvHSz)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on December 17, 2020, 10:07:07 PM
I bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 18, 2020, 01:13:24 AM
Anyone skated a pair of the Vans Pro wrapped?

They have the extra bit of rubber wrapped round the whole upper of the shoe, not as much as the 112 or other versions with the full toe cap but definitely a bit more than the usual versions, which I just saw on vans.com.au but seem like they have been out everywhere else for a month or so.

(https://i.ibb.co/Tv0qGZL/Vans-pro-wrapped-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tv0qGZL)

(https://i.ibb.co/mtGM4bt/Vans-pro-wrapped-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mtGM4bt)



I found the Uprise instagram post with pics here, seems they are in old skool and authentic:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHRPFL3pJAu/

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 18, 2020, 01:21:26 AM
I bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?

I would be curious to know how many people do actually switch them out and how many just ride them as is.

I have often heard others pull them straight out and use Footprint elite, Remind or similar, even recycle some older ones from the flatter insoles rather than the highly contoured ones in Vans pro now (as I do) but if they don't feel comfortable, often use older insoles until the shoe is nicely worn in and then put the new ones in to last out the life of the shoe.

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: dumptruck12 on December 18, 2020, 04:18:13 AM
Anyone skated a pair of the Vans Pro wrapped?

They have the extra bit of rubber wrapped round the whole upper of the shoe, not as much as the 112 or other versions with the full toe cap but definitely a bit more than the usual versions, which I just saw on vans.com.au but seem like they have been out everywhere else for a month or so.

(https://i.ibb.co/Tv0qGZL/Vans-pro-wrapped-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tv0qGZL)

(https://i.ibb.co/mtGM4bt/Vans-pro-wrapped-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mtGM4bt)



I found the Uprise instagram post with pics here, seems they are in old skool and authentic:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHRPFL3pJAu/
I skated them, honestly I didnít feel a difference but they were good, skated normal to me, and I loved old skools
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: zahed on December 18, 2020, 05:23:45 AM
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Anyone skated a pair of the Vans Pro wrapped?

They have the extra bit of rubber wrapped round the whole upper of the shoe, not as much as the 112 or other versions with the full toe cap but definitely a bit more than the usual versions, which I just saw on vans.com.au but seem like they have been out everywhere else for a month or so.

(https://i.ibb.co/Tv0qGZL/Vans-pro-wrapped-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Tv0qGZL)

(https://i.ibb.co/mtGM4bt/Vans-pro-wrapped-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mtGM4bt)


I found the Uprise instagram post with pics here, seems they are in old skool and authentic:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CHRPFL3pJAu/
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I skated them, honestly I didnít feel a difference but they were good, skated normal to me, and I loved old skools

skated them and love them. anytime old skool comes in all suede i buy. probably going to grab a few more pairs.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: LewFarrell on December 18, 2020, 10:18:21 AM
I bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?

I use FP Gamechangers, the PopCush feels too damn high in the heel for me. Tried them in Berle's, Kwalks, Old Schools and Sk8 Hi's and all were a great fit.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on December 18, 2020, 10:23:03 AM
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I use FP Gamechangers, the PopCush feels too damn high in the heel for me. Tried them in Berle's, Kwalks, Old Schools and Sk8 Hi's and all were a great fit.
the 5mm version?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: LewFarrell on December 18, 2020, 10:29:39 AM
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I bought some half cab pros. What aftermarket insoles do you all switch out the pop Cush for?
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I use FP Gamechangers, the PopCush feels too damn high in the heel for me. Tried them in Berle's, Kwalks, Old Schools and Sk8 Hi's and all were a great fit.
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the 5mm version?
Yep! I'm a fan. They are hard as hell but I feel way less foot fatigue. In my mid30s fwiw.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on December 18, 2020, 10:30:18 AM
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I would be curious to know how many people do actually switch them out and how many just ride them as is.

I have often heard others pull them straight out and use Footprint elite, Remind or similar, even recycle some older ones from the flatter insoles rather than the highly contoured ones in Vans pro now (as I do) but if they don't feel comfortable, often use older insoles until the shoe is nicely worn in and then put the new ones in to last out the life of the shoe.

For me the Pop Cush is difficult because the heel is so high and the ball and toe bed are so low and flat that it puts unnecessary pressure on my forefoot. I have some old SB Blazer lunarlon insoles and tried those in my Half Cabs and it felt like a completely different shoe but I'm interested to try some FP elite insoles. It's hard to pull the trigger on an expensive product that backs a MAGA fucktard like Paul Hart though.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on December 18, 2020, 10:34:08 AM
@funeral_tuxedo ive had trouble pulling the trigger on a pair of FP for a year now you’re not alone there. The kingfoam are 60 bucks now
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on December 18, 2020, 12:29:51 PM
There isnít a brand as good, at least that Iím aware for insoles. I have the remind medic and it kinda sucks. I know they have a moldeable one thatís the same price as GameChangers but, i doubt theyíll take the impact.

Also, Fuck Paul Hart.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 18, 2020, 04:11:31 PM
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I would be curious to know how many people do actually switch them out and how many just ride them as is.

I have often heard others pull them straight out and use Footprint elite, Remind or similar, even recycle some older ones from the flatter insoles rather than the highly contoured ones in Vans pro now (as I do) but if they don't feel comfortable, often use older insoles until the shoe is nicely worn in and then put the new ones in to last out the life of the shoe.
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For me the Pop Cush is difficult because the heel is so high and the ball and toe bed are so low and flat that it puts unnecessary pressure on my forefoot. I have some old SB Blazer lunarlon insoles and tried those in my Half Cabs and it felt like a completely different shoe but I'm interested to try some FP elite insoles. It's hard to pull the trigger on an expensive product that backs a MAGA fucktard like Paul Hart though.

A couple of guys I know skate the Footprint elites in anything and everything, so I got some in for the shop but I found them to be a bit too squishy and flat for my feet.  The Neen ones have an extra bit of harder material from the heel up to about mid foot, which helps a whole lot and supports a bit more.  Not sure if any new Footprint insoles have the same thing, as all the other elite versions were just the soft flexi material right the way through.

None really sold in the shop even though a lot of people were interested, but the price was the biggest issue, so many people didn't want to pay that much just for insoles that they may or may not like.  I got the elite and the regular flat ones in a few different mm, just to see what there was.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7p1cQfFMJ7/
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 19, 2020, 01:37:07 AM

skated them and love them. anytime old skool comes in all suede i buy. probably going to grab a few more pairs.

Yes the full suede was the winner for me too.  I had quite a few pairs of full suede black / white classic colour old skools when they first came out but then it seems it is only the special editions of weird colours now that have the full suede.

I guess the same with the era pro, as the collar padding just gets destroyed if it is not suede.  Sk8 hi and half cabs I find last a good amount of time with the upper, just super glue the stitching first.

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: moonordie on December 19, 2020, 03:19:30 PM
Rowley rapidwelds are shit. Imagine is thinner as usual, they lasted me 11 days when a shoe last me at least 30.
Don't get them.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: lemonchicken91 on December 21, 2020, 06:59:54 PM
https://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM

Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on December 21, 2020, 07:15:20 PM
https://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM

Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha



Finally some honest skateboarding journalism
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: BoxStuffer on December 21, 2020, 08:04:55 PM
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https://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM

Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha
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Finally some honest skateboarding journalism

Thank you.
This was fucking awesome. 
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on December 21, 2020, 08:09:12 PM
Watched that entire thing, can’t be said for the majority of YouTube shoe or skate reviews. Had me rolling. “Ow!”
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 22, 2020, 12:19:43 AM
And the good times roll on!!!

Pretty funny!

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Youoverthere on December 22, 2020, 04:18:11 AM
I wish my parents let me caveman in the house when I was a kid.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Crap on December 22, 2020, 10:11:55 AM
Honestly, that kid's review was at least equally informative compared to most skate shoe reviews I've seen on YouTube.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on December 22, 2020, 10:14:35 AM
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https://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM

Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha
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Finally some honest skateboarding journalism
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Thank you.
This was fucking awesome.
This is the intense scientific testing skateboarding needs!
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: stets on December 22, 2020, 10:47:25 AM
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https://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM

Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha
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Finally some honest skateboarding journalism
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Thank you.
This was fucking awesome.
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This is the intense scientific testing skateboarding needs!

Can't trust a dude rocking Powell Peralta grip on a Santa Cruz deck though. Sorry kid, of credibility.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: moonordie on December 23, 2020, 05:52:32 AM
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https://youtu.be/nXvtHHhLlIM

Thought this kids review was hilarious
Just starts bomb dropping in his room
Then the music hahaha
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Finally some honest skateboarding journalism
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Thank you.
This was fucking awesome.
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This is the intense scientific testing skateboarding needs!
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Can't trust a dude rocking Powell Peralta grip on a Santa Cruz deck though. Sorry kid, of credibility.
Idk how anybody could watch this for more than 30 secs
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: lemonchicken91 on December 23, 2020, 11:38:50 AM
What else you got going on? Had to take a break from pro skater conspiracies and guessing if biebel is on roidz
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on December 23, 2020, 01:19:37 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJJNbTuF5YC/?igshid=1hgbqkg5gorhd
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: cherry on December 23, 2020, 04:49:09 PM
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Damn I want those rowleys. Had xlts when I was a kid. And they ripped so fast. My mom was so bummed.  I want these but I got crocketts coming.
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XLTs, bummin moms since 2001, yo

Those Quasi Crocketts with the navy/green colorway were fucking excellent.

Skating them now. Love the little cowboy Gilbert keychain
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: CrimsonGhost on December 26, 2020, 08:40:06 AM
Iím going to cut and paste this from my insta about the Gil Highs.


I am so fucking picky about shoes. Itís a curse. I have been this way my whole lifeÖ I made my Mother cry over Duffs that were half size too big. My Dad threw airwalks at me on the front lawn. The first time I spent over 100 bucks was on Bo Jackson Nike Trainers in grade 8, my mom had to lie to my dad about the price. Anyhoo, the past few years I can not find a cup sole skate shoe that fits or feels right. I think vans pro highs are their sleeper shoe. It is perfect. But I CAN NOT rock a vulc shoe with my bunk back. All I want is a bouncy feeling sole with a supportive insole. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY a shoe I can put on and not think about. Which seems to be impossible as they all slip at the heel or have a puffy tongue that feels weird when tied up. Or one foot feels tight and the other loose, or they are too slim and it feels like my feet are being choked.
 I am happy to say my search is over. The Gilbert Crocket High is the best feeling shoe I have put on since Vans Fairlanes in the mid 90ís. Iím telling you this is the shoe. Put it on, tie it up, feel the comfort, and most importantly forget you have them on.

After reading this post and many others about the high praise of Crockett Highs, I finally pulled the trigger. Came a day after Christmas but the wait was well worth it. You hit the nail on the head on my feelings as well of never being satisfied with the shoe you're wearing till now. These Crockett's are the truth. I bought the green quasi cw and now searching for the all black cw in my size.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on December 26, 2020, 12:39:15 PM
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Iím going to cut and paste this from my insta about the Gil Highs.


I am so fucking picky about shoes. Itís a curse. I have been this way my whole lifeÖ I made my Mother cry over Duffs that were half size too big. My Dad threw airwalks at me on the front lawn. The first time I spent over 100 bucks was on Bo Jackson Nike Trainers in grade 8, my mom had to lie to my dad about the price. Anyhoo, the past few years I can not find a cup sole skate shoe that fits or feels right. I think vans pro highs are their sleeper shoe. It is perfect. But I CAN NOT rock a vulc shoe with my bunk back. All I want is a bouncy feeling sole with a supportive insole. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY a shoe I can put on and not think about. Which seems to be impossible as they all slip at the heel or have a puffy tongue that feels weird when tied up. Or one foot feels tight and the other loose, or they are too slim and it feels like my feet are being choked.
 I am happy to say my search is over. The Gilbert Crocket High is the best feeling shoe I have put on since Vans Fairlanes in the mid 90ís. Iím telling you this is the shoe. Put it on, tie it up, feel the comfort, and most importantly forget you have them on.
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After reading this post and many others about the high praise of Crockett Highs, I finally pulled the trigger. Came a day after Christmas but the wait was well worth it. You hit the nail on the head on my feelings as well of never being satisfied with the shoe you're wearing till now. These Crockett's are the truth. I bought the green quasi cw and now searching for the all black cw in my size.
where are the green quasi still in stock?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: CrimsonGhost on December 26, 2020, 12:54:56 PM
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Iím going to cut and paste this from my insta about the Gil Highs.


I am so fucking picky about shoes. Itís a curse. I have been this way my whole lifeÖ I made my Mother cry over Duffs that were half size too big. My Dad threw airwalks at me on the front lawn. The first time I spent over 100 bucks was on Bo Jackson Nike Trainers in grade 8, my mom had to lie to my dad about the price. Anyhoo, the past few years I can not find a cup sole skate shoe that fits or feels right. I think vans pro highs are their sleeper shoe. It is perfect. But I CAN NOT rock a vulc shoe with my bunk back. All I want is a bouncy feeling sole with a supportive insole. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY a shoe I can put on and not think about. Which seems to be impossible as they all slip at the heel or have a puffy tongue that feels weird when tied up. Or one foot feels tight and the other loose, or they are too slim and it feels like my feet are being choked.
 I am happy to say my search is over. The Gilbert Crocket High is the best feeling shoe I have put on since Vans Fairlanes in the mid 90ís. Iím telling you this is the shoe. Put it on, tie it up, feel the comfort, and most importantly forget you have them on.
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After reading this post and many others about the high praise of Crockett Highs, I finally pulled the trigger. Came a day after Christmas but the wait was well worth it. You hit the nail on the head on my feelings as well of never being satisfied with the shoe you're wearing till now. These Crockett's are the truth. I bought the green quasi cw and now searching for the all black cw in my size.
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where are the green quasi still in stock?

Ordered them from this shop in San Diego. Surprisingly they had all sizes available last week when I ordered them. Looks like only 9.5 and 12s are left. Usually if I'm looking for a specific piece of gear I just put it into Google images and have been able to find some good deals and stock from shops that I wouldn't normally ever find.

https://www.artsandrecstore.com/collections/vans/products/vans-crockett-high-pro-black?variant=32045465796719
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: planman on December 26, 2020, 08:19:38 PM
Cosign on Crockett Highs, still skating a pair I've had since September. Very comfy, put Lunarlons in it if you have them ;)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: RossDailey on December 27, 2020, 05:03:23 PM
Can't find a mention of the KWalks 2 & that makes me happy
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: lemonchicken91 on January 03, 2021, 03:23:13 PM
How long did it take to break in the K walks? Tried to skate them right out of the box today that was a bad idea , ultracush hd
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Croquet temper on January 03, 2021, 03:34:53 PM
K Walk 1s look very nice and designed with practicality and durability in mind. K Walk 2s are Live Love Laugh lifestyle activewear for soccer moms. Also, every insole has rap lyrics with the N word subliminally printed underneath, which makes his heartfelt apology seem less than sincere, to say the least.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: lemonchicken91 on January 05, 2021, 12:55:16 PM
This ultracush is stiff as shit, do these get better with time?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jakeumms on January 05, 2021, 01:07:30 PM
This ultracush is stiff as shit, do these get better with time?
That's been my experience with it too. In fact I think it gets harder over time. A lot of people don't like how squishy the Popcush is but I personally like it more. Different strokes but it is kinda weird that Vans insoles are so different from one version to the next
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Firebert on January 05, 2021, 01:12:27 PM
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This ultracush is stiff as shit, do these get better with time?
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That's been my experience with it too. In fact I think it gets harder over time. A lot of people don't like how squishy the Popcush is but I personally like it more. Different strokes but it is kinda weird that Vans insoles are so different from one version to the next
I've had ultracush insoles that are very firm and very soft.
I've had popcush insoles that are very firm and very soft.
They both suck ass.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Croquet temper on January 05, 2021, 01:17:25 PM
I donít know how you guys have such hypersensitivity to insoles. Popcush seems nice in each shoe I have it in. A vulc New Balance shoe could use something like it, imo.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on January 05, 2021, 04:37:16 PM
What’s the word on the new classic skate? Redesigned? New fit? Maybe it’s just a collection as per the caption below


Was already posted in upcoming shoe thread but seeing if there’s any more detail

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJrjz3bl2Ng/?igshid=1m4bs11moreo3 (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJrjz3bl2Ng/?igshid=1m4bs11moreo3)


https://www.instagram.com/p/CJrRZf2gYFj/?igshid=bgeatab861cl (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJrRZf2gYFj/?igshid=bgeatab861cl)

Edit: hmm doesn’t seem like anything too new minus this last piece


(https://i.ibb.co/Bt6s55S/82-E506-C6-0-AE2-461-D-9-EC3-E9-D741-E4-DED3.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Bt6s55S)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: MyUserName on January 05, 2021, 06:22:28 PM
Wait, so the Pro line is being replaced by the Skate line? And are they really calling it the ďSkate Sk8 HiĒ?

Good job, Vans. Youíve managed to confuse your customers again.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on January 05, 2021, 06:43:55 PM
Wait, so the Pro line is being replaced by the Skate line? And are they really calling it the ďSkate Sk8 HiĒ?

Good job, Vans. Youíve managed to confuse your customers again.
yeah pretty confusing. Per IG comment from a vans employee, sounds like these will be worldwide at core shops in the new ďSkate Classics buildĒ in these colors
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: nevrwasben on January 05, 2021, 09:46:06 PM
I'm still just waiting for some new/good Skate Sk8 lo-pro colorways...
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: stets on January 05, 2021, 10:23:00 PM
Wait, so the Pro line is being replaced by the Skate line? And are they really calling it the ďSkate Sk8 HiĒ?

Good job, Vans. Youíve managed to confuse your customers again.

Hahaha. And Skate SK8 Low if they keep making them?

That Homegrown shop in upstate NY has this to say about the Old Skool, at least:

Vans Skate Old Skool

Completely redesigned with skaters in mind, the all-new Skate Classics line delivers more of what skaters need to enable maximum progression.

The new sidewall finish, checkerboard flag, and ďSkateboardingĒ branding are some of the subtle differences that enhance the iconic style skaters need to enable maximum progression.

The fully revised upper, molded heel counter, locked-in tongue straps, and a recut of the DURACAP underlay offer an essential fit that is more breathable and durable where skaters need it most.

The two-part foxing, featuring a tougher toe knurl, ensures heightened board contact, and the redesigned gum rubber sole that made Vans famous has been made even better with the SickStick rubber compound, plus an internal heel shank to deliver more grip, more boardfeel, more support, and more durability.

The all-new Skate Classics give you the look you wantówith the performance benefits that real skaters demand. SKATE CLASSICS ARE MADE FOR SKATEBOARDING.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jakeumms on January 05, 2021, 10:31:31 PM
They can miss me with that canvas slip-on
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: CrimsonGhost on January 05, 2021, 11:09:19 PM
Hey revising your classic shoes is one thing but this dumbing down the "pro" line to instead add "skateboarding" and "skate skate skate" instead is an insult to skaters intelligence if you ask me.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: DarkPools on January 06, 2021, 01:28:13 AM
How long did it take to break in the K walks? Tried to skate them right out of the box today that was a bad idea , ultracush hd

I've skated 4+ pairs of Kwalks 1 (Ultracush HD) and I would personally say a couple sessions, ~5 - 6 hours of skating total maybe. They can get pretty flexible in the first session depending on how hard you skate/what you skate. I usually liked skating a park in them first.
Each pair, I pretty much walked around in them for a couple days first. That helped.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on January 06, 2021, 06:39:02 AM
wait, are those replacing the Pro Classics or are those just a new series?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: SKATELYNJENNER on January 06, 2021, 06:52:07 AM
ITíS NOT COOL UNLESS IT SAY SKATEBOARDING ON IT. Maybe they are trying to tap into to that ďcamp out in front of the shop for half a weekĒ market like Nike or to a lesser extent Adidas. Canít wait to cop a pair of fuzzy neon Half Cabís.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Croquet temper on January 06, 2021, 08:48:10 AM
Unless that canvas on the side is more durable I have no idea what is happening here.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: blueskynoise on January 06, 2021, 10:05:21 AM
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Wait, so the Pro line is being replaced by the Skate line? And are they really calling it the ďSkate Sk8 HiĒ?

Good job, Vans. Youíve managed to confuse your customers again.
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Hahaha. And Skate SK8 Low if they keep making them?

That Homegrown shop in upstate NY has this to say about the Old Skool, at least:

Vans Skate Old Skool

Completely redesigned with skaters in mind, the all-new Skate Classics line delivers more of what skaters need to enable maximum progression.

The new sidewall finish, checkerboard flag, and ďSkateboardingĒ branding are some of the subtle differences that enhance the iconic style skaters need to enable maximum progression.

The fully revised upper, molded heel counter, locked-in tongue straps, and a recut of the DURACAP underlay offer an essential fit that is more breathable and durable where skaters need it most.

The two-part foxing, featuring a tougher toe knurl, ensures heightened board contact, and the redesigned gum rubber sole that made Vans famous has been made even better with the SickStick rubber compound, plus an internal heel shank to deliver more grip, more boardfeel, more support, and more durability.

The all-new Skate Classics give you the look you wantówith the performance benefits that real skaters demand. SKATE CLASSICS ARE MADE FOR SKATEBOARDING.


This seems like the obvious buying point here. The gum rubber on the Rowan Pro lasts almost twice as long as any other Vans Pro that I've skated, so it seems that they're just taking some technology that they know works and putting it into other classic models. Confusing marketing for sure though.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Crap on January 06, 2021, 10:16:14 AM
To try and reduce some of the confusion, my understanding is that 'Skate Classics' will be replacing 'Pro Classics.' To recap the quote someone posted earlier in less brand-speak...

Actual/functional changes:

- a heel shank (a rigid piece under the insole to keep the sole more stable in that area - see the AVE Pro for an example)

- Tongue-centering straps on the Old Skool

- New rubber compound on the sole (same one they used on the Rowan Pro)

- recut the Duracap (a big pet peeve of mine - most Pro Vans have way too much rubber under the canvas/suede, and it messes up the fit)

Cosmetic/less noticeable changes:

- Checkerboard fabric tag (unclear if this is permanent or just on the first round of Skate Classics)

- Sole sidewalls will have a shiny finish (similar to the Anaheim Factory line)

- The rubber piece on the toe will have a rougher texture
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: PincherBug on January 06, 2021, 10:16:52 AM
They have a Sport model that's part of the new Skate Classics line

(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/HEKB9M-HERO?$330x330$)

https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-skate/skate-sport-black-gum (https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-skate/skate-sport-black-gum)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: IanBZHD on January 06, 2021, 10:18:07 AM
People are so brainwashed by Vans, this is literally saying "Hey we know we keep fucking up and changing the insoles/fits of our shoes so here's a complete rebrand of the same shit but changed again... Hopefully they dont hurt your feet!".
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: bigdave on January 06, 2021, 10:46:26 AM
I love vans but jesus christ with these fucking changes that arent really changes but might be changes and could possibly be changes. I just like Sk8 high pros and Half Cab pros.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: fs1/2cab on January 06, 2021, 11:19:56 AM
not feeling these colorways.
everything else sounds like a improvement.
I think. I am not sure. this is all a bit confusing.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Murge on January 06, 2021, 11:25:49 AM
People are so brainwashed by Vans, this is literally saying "Hey we know we keep fucking up and changing the insoles/fits of our shoes so here's a complete rebrand of the same shit but changed again... Hopefully they dont hurt your feet!".

Hit the nail on the head.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: moonordie on January 06, 2021, 03:30:34 PM
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People are so brainwashed by Vans, this is literally saying "Hey we know we keep fucking up and changing the insoles/fits of our shoes so here's a complete rebrand of the same shit but changed again... Hopefully they dont hurt your feet!".
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Hit the nail on the head.
100%
Last 2 pairs of Vans I've skated had been a disappointment: kwalks 2 and Rowan's. Don't get me wrong, Rowan's shoe are awesome but these ones feel super stiff on my right foot only. Super weird.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: blueskynoise on January 06, 2021, 04:19:54 PM
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People are so brainwashed by Vans, this is literally saying "Hey we know we keep fucking up and changing the insoles/fits of our shoes so here's a complete rebrand of the same shit but changed again... Hopefully they dont hurt your feet!".
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Hit the nail on the head.
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Last 2 pairs of Vans I've skated had been a disappointment: kwalks 2 and Rowan's. Don't get me wrong, Rowan's shoe are awesome but these ones feel super stiff on my right foot only. Super weird.

I kinda felt the same about my white suede/gum sole Rowans. They felt really stiff. The first color released, blue mesh with white sole, were perfect. I have a brand new pair in the box for this summer
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Made In China on January 06, 2021, 04:25:52 PM
Huh... interesting development. I do like the all black colorways with white laces at least. Does anyone know if they're going to do this with Halfcabs too?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: KillDayoy on January 06, 2021, 04:42:51 PM
Dig the colorways but super hesitant to try them. Ever since they switched to popcush, shoes that I've been skating for years with no problems, have suddenly been giving me blisters. Might have to steer clear of any "pro" or "skate" line and stick to the classics
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 06, 2021, 06:32:15 PM
Dig the colorways but super hesitant to try them. Ever since they switched to popcush, shoes that I've been skating for years with no problems, have suddenly been giving me blisters. Might have to steer clear of any "pro" or "skate" line and stick to the classics

I have been stripping out the footbed on the classics for a long time and putting in my special old Vans pro insoles from way back that make everything feel like it did in the TNT2 shoes.

The classic shoes have a stiffer sole and to me last longer than the pro versions, but everyone is different.

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: concerned_parent on January 07, 2021, 05:05:26 AM
that shiny outsole will definitely improve my kickturns
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Crap on January 07, 2021, 05:20:24 AM
Huh... interesting development. I do like the all black colorways with white laces at least. Does anyone know if they're going to do this with Halfcabs too?

Just speculation on my part, but I would think the Half Cabs would be included as well, since it wouldn't make sense to revamp the entire line, but leave just one shoe the same. Wouldn't surprise me if they replaced the regular Half Cab Pro with the Half Cab Pro '92 (the Uprise Half Cab), which we already know they're using for the upcoming Reynolds Half Cab colourway. This would appease my complaints that the Half Cab pro has a bad shape and doesn't look right.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Croquet temper on January 07, 2021, 06:56:59 AM
Iím surprised they arenít just giving Reynolds his own damn shoe.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: kneebone on January 07, 2021, 09:06:35 AM
Iím surprised they arenít just giving Reynolds his own damn shoe.
I actually think a Vans Reynolds model would be weird.  Happy to just see him put his name on some classics colorways.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Crap on January 07, 2021, 10:16:11 AM
Seems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Croquet temper on January 07, 2021, 10:33:38 AM
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Iím surprised they arenít just giving Reynolds his own damn shoe.
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I actually think a Vans Reynolds model would be weird.  Happy to just see him put his name on some classics colorways.

Nah.

Heíd make a great shoe that would sell really well.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on January 07, 2021, 11:32:37 AM
Seems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.
but they keep making TNT shoes/colorways?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Space Cowboy on January 07, 2021, 11:48:01 AM
I used to love Vans for their iconic and timeless shoe-designs.
But nowadays it seems like, theyre trying to jump on the tech bandwagon. Ii bet a lot of you like the new shoes they have put out in the recent years, but in my opinion they just lost their iconic design.

I don't see an issue honestly, there's a market for the techy shoes, and it's better for people in that market to buy vans (Which is present for local scenes supporting contests, giveaways, etc.) rather than a corporate brand that does barley anything for skating, and vans still make classic shoes that aren't techy
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: CrimsonGhost on January 07, 2021, 03:47:20 PM
If Hawkman ain't getting a shoe model, I doubt Reynolds would. I'm fine with whatever shoe the pro prefers and they get a colorway out of it. Nice happy medium for the aging pros. Plus doesn't cost Vans a whole lot for R&D and keeps interest in the Vans classic models for older gen of skaters who recognize a familiar name but might not have bought or jumped ship from Vans for various reasons. Keep the new vans models for the up and coming pro's.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 07, 2021, 09:02:05 PM
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Seems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.
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but they keep making TNT shoes/colorways?


Maybe TNT is also in the same category as the lifers, as he has been on Vans (and almost all his tier one sponsors Antihero, Indy, Spitfire, Jessup, etc) since day dot, but even if he is not liked on here so much, he is still a big seller for them in general and still has a big following.


Apart from classic Half Cabs and some Half Cab pro shoes, the various TNT shoes are a close second if not top for the highest number of pairs of signature shoes I have had over the years, mainly TNT, TNT2, TNT4, TNT5 and a few models of the other versions, but I think maybe classic Old Skools / Old Skool pro would probably be the number one overall.

Thankfully I don't need any more shoes any time soon, but these new "skate" versions could go either way really, depending on how people find the fit of them.  I still like the current fit of Half Cabs, both classic and pro, which feel so comfortable all over for my feet, but everyone is different.

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jakeumms on January 07, 2021, 10:38:33 PM
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Seems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.
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but they keep making TNT shoes/colorways?
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Maybe TNT is also in the same category as the lifers, as he has been on Vans (and almost all his tier one sponsors Antihero, Indy, Spitfire, Jessup, etc) since day dot, but even if he is not liked on here so much, he is still a big seller for them in general and still has a big following.


Apart from classic Half Cabs and some Half Cab pro shoes, the various TNT shoes are a close second if not top for the highest number of pairs of signature shoes I have had over the years, mainly TNT, TNT2, TNT4, TNT5 and a few models of the other versions, but I think maybe classic Old Skools / Old Skool pro would probably be the number one overall.

Thankfully I don't need any more shoes any time soon, but these new "skate" versions could go either way really, depending on how people find the fit of them.  I still like the current fit of Half Cabs, both classic and pro, which feel so comfortable all over for my feet, but everyone is different.
I think it's likely that TNT is now kinda like Jack Purcell or Chuck Taylor. People know the shoe but don't necessarily know  the person the shoe was named after. Like you pointed out, there's been a TNT shoe for years now and I wouldn't be surprised if some people just always look for the TNT model when they go to pick up a new pair of Vans.

Up until recently, I hadn't seen TNT footage since the release of the most recent shoe which was at least a few years ago now. I would imagine that Vans has metrics that tell them to keep giving the dude shoes even if he isn't really that productive anymore.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: DarkPools on January 08, 2021, 01:35:27 AM
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Seems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.
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but they keep making TNT shoes/colorways?
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Maybe TNT is also in the same category as the lifers, as he has been on Vans (and almost all his tier one sponsors Antihero, Indy, Spitfire, Jessup, etc) since day dot, but even if he is not liked on here so much, he is still a big seller for them in general and still has a big following.


Apart from classic Half Cabs and some Half Cab pro shoes, the various TNT shoes are a close second if not top for the highest number of pairs of signature shoes I have had over the years, mainly TNT, TNT2, TNT4, TNT5 and a few models of the other versions, but I think maybe classic Old Skools / Old Skool pro would probably be the number one overall.

Thankfully I don't need any more shoes any time soon, but these new "skate" versions could go either way really, depending on how people find the fit of them.  I still like the current fit of Half Cabs, both classic and pro, which feel so comfortable all over for my feet, but everyone is different.
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I think it's likely that TNT is now kinda like Jack Purcell or Chuck Taylor. People know the shoe but don't necessarily know  the person the shoe was named after. Like you pointed out, there's been a TNT shoe for years now and I wouldn't be surprised if some people just always look for the TNT model when they go to pick up a new pair of Vans.

Up until recently, I hadn't seen TNT footage since the release of the most recent shoe which was at least a few years ago now. I would imagine that Vans has metrics that tell them to keep giving the dude shoes even if he isn't really that productive anymore.

I think in one of TNTs IG stories/posts when the Advanced Prototype was about to come out/just came out, he was commenting on how other riders were stoked he got a model and it had the new 3D Ultracush insole. TNT practically didn't care/know what was under the hood in his pro shoe! Just stoked to skate. Which was so funny because it gives the impression Van's felt the shoe would be a hit and they were just giving it to TNT, since his name can sell the silhouette. Just along for the ride in his own world with skating and music haha!
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Crap on January 08, 2021, 05:19:11 AM
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Seems like Vans' philosophy on pro models is that if they're going to give you one, they want to give you more in the years that follow. Reynolds probably doesn't have much time left as a full time pro skater, so there isn't a long-term brand to be built around Reynolds pro models the way there may be around Rowan or Berle, who are the most recent people to get their first Vans pro models, and probably have many years as pro skaters left. Anyone on the back end of their skate career who has a pro model (AVE and Caballero) has been there a long time and had a few previous Vans pro shoes. Not that Reynolds doesn't deserve a pro model, but giving him one wouldn't really fit in with how Vans normally gives out pro models. For the same reason, I would think Tony Hawk isn't getting one either, even though he obviously has more name recognition than like Chima Ferguson.
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but they keep making TNT shoes/colorways?

That's exactly what I mean - I don't care for TNT at all, but he's been on Vans forever, and had a pile of previous pro models on Vans (some of which sold very well), so he gets pro models. Or at least got pro models - I'd be surprised if he gets another one. If TNT had spent his whole career on Emerica, then got on Vans last year; he wouldn't get a pro model now. Not to say TNT is equivalent to Reynolds, but their status in the Vans hierarchy is different.

TNT got his first pro model when he was young, then stayed on Vans and stayed productive/relevant for a long time, so he got more. Seems like the guys with pro models on Vans right now all follow a trajectory along those lines, and are just at various stages of it:

1) Skaters just entering their prime who recently got their first pro model (Berle, Rowan)
2) More established skaters who still have some gas in the tank and are now on their second or third pro model (Chima, Kyle Walker, Crockett)
3) Skaters who have been on forever and had a whole bunch of pro models (AVE, Rowley, TNT, Cab)

Whether or not Reynolds deserves it is a separate debate; I'm just saying I don't see it happening because it doesn't fit the way Vans usually decides who gets a pro model. Outside of AVE, there is nobody with a Vans pro shoe who had a long tenure or a pro model on another shoe brand that I'm aware of.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Frank on January 08, 2021, 07:54:57 AM
tnt 5 was a pretty good shoe. i didn't like the sgs a lot. some earlier models were pretty cool, too. the newest isn't my thing.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Ok on January 08, 2021, 07:57:45 AM
A dr t would be so dope rn
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Murge on January 08, 2021, 07:58:52 AM
Anyone know if vans is gonna drop another colorway of the Rowley RapidWeld  pro with the waffle cup thatís not all black or the navy one currently? Why canít companyís just make a black upper and white sole?!
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on January 08, 2021, 01:02:19 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJzEEsAlXLn/?igshid=nvhem8hug86d

Ground up rebuild
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: DarkPools on January 08, 2021, 01:19:15 PM
A dr t would be so dope rn
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Post by: Bristol_Palin on January 08, 2021, 01:34:57 PM
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Would also be on board. Van Wastell had such sick footage in those.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: RossDailey on January 08, 2021, 02:02:55 PM
Anyone know if vans is gonna drop another colorway of the Rowley RapidWeld  pro with the waffle cup thatís not all black or the navy one currently? Why canít companyís just make a black upper and white sole?!

I've been asking myself the same question for years.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Ok on January 08, 2021, 04:10:58 PM
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Would also be on board. Van Wastell had such sick footage in those.


Yes, yes very true
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 08, 2021, 06:38:00 PM

Ground up rebuild

Link broken or post deleted - now you got my curiosity I want to know what it was...

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on January 08, 2021, 06:44:00 PM
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Ground up rebuild
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Link broken or post deleted - now you got my curiosity I want to know what it was...


employee of vans skate talking about his 3rd year st the company and this project rebuilding this new skate classics line being a ton of work
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 08, 2021, 06:52:51 PM
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Ground up rebuild
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employee of vans skate talking about his 3rd year st the company and this project rebuilding this new skate classics line being a ton of work

Thanks!  I recall talking to a guy who was helping with things and he couldn't believe some of the people in such important positions didn't know a thing about skateboarding, so was wondering how they could ever be the ones successfully designing skateboarding shoes.  It might be a good thing that actual skaters are being involved in the process.

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Post by: DarkPools on January 08, 2021, 07:42:07 PM
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employee of vans skate talking about his 3rd year st the company and this project rebuilding this new skate classics line being a ton of work
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Thanks!  I recall talking to a guy who was helping with things and he couldn't believe some of the people in such important positions didn't know a thing about skateboarding, so was wondering how they could ever be the ones successfully designing skateboarding shoes.  It might be a good thing that actual skaters are being involved in the process.

More reason for me to feel happy in my cupsoles from es, etnies, lakai, and NB#, where actual skateboarders are involved when making their shoes!!  ;D

But this new rebuild of skate classics is utterly baffling. Vans loves using jargon that confuses the hell out of people.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: sammyz on January 08, 2021, 09:51:21 PM
PSA: vans Australia website has Ave proís for $50, down from $200!

I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Aveís.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 09, 2021, 01:10:59 AM
PSA: vans Australia website has Ave proís for $50, down from $200!

I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Aveís.

Don't mind if I do!!!!!

I had been so good and not bought anything even though I get the emails and from Black Friday, all the pro classic range were down to $100 and I had a further 20% off as VIP / email, so Sk8 hi pro were $80 so I added to the cart and sat on lots until the offer ended.

This one however is too much of a deal / curiosity to pass up, so I got what might be the last two size 12 and two size 11 also just to check and see which is better, but I have others I skate with I can always pass them on to.

White with black stripe and that blue inner / clear sole is a bit weird, which is why I never looked at them before, but lets see how they fit.

https://www.vans.com.au/ave-pro-blanc-de-blanc-blk-vna4bt7uy6-wht.html
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: sammyz on January 09, 2021, 02:03:56 AM
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PSA: vans Australia website has Ave proís for $50, down from $200!

I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Aveís.
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Don't mind if I do!!!!!

I had been so good and not bought anything even though I get the emails and from Black Friday, all the pro classic range were down to $100 and I had a further 20% off as VIP / email, so Sk8 hi pro were $80 so I added to the cart and sat on lots until the offer ended.

This one however is too much of a deal / curiosity to pass up, so I got what might be the last two size 12 and two size 11 also just to check and see which is better, but I have others I skate with I can always pass them on to.

White with black stripe and that blue inner / clear sole is a bit weird, which is why I never looked at them before, but lets see how they fit.

https://www.vans.com.au/ave-pro-blanc-de-blanc-blk-vna4bt7uy6-wht.html

Glad i could share the love!

Also, didnít realise you were aussie!! Whereabouts in Oz you in?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 09, 2021, 02:22:26 AM
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PSA: vans Australia website has Ave proís for $50, down from $200!

I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Aveís.
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Don't mind if I do!!!!!

I had been so good and not bought anything even though I get the emails and from Black Friday, all the pro classic range were down to $100 and I had a further 20% off as VIP / email, so Sk8 hi pro were $80 so I added to the cart and sat on lots until the offer ended.

This one however is too much of a deal / curiosity to pass up, so I got what might be the last two size 12 and two size 11 also just to check and see which is better, but I have others I skate with I can always pass them on to.

White with black stripe and that blue inner / clear sole is a bit weird, which is why I never looked at them before, but lets see how they fit.

https://www.vans.com.au/ave-pro-blanc-de-blanc-blk-vna4bt7uy6-wht.html
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Glad i could share the love!

Also, didnít realise you were aussie!! Whereabouts in Oz you in?

Brisbane, or at least Brisbane born and bred, now still in QLD but an hour south south west.

There are actually quite a few Aussies here I have found.

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Nth syd bear on January 09, 2021, 08:57:11 AM
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PSA: vans Australia website has Ave proís for $50, down from $200!

I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Aveís.
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Don't mind if I do!!!!!

I had been so good and not bought anything even though I get the emails and from Black Friday, all the pro classic range were down to $100 and I had a further 20% off as VIP / email, so Sk8 hi pro were $80 so I added to the cart and sat on lots until the offer ended.

This one however is too much of a deal / curiosity to pass up, so I got what might be the last two size 12 and two size 11 also just to check and see which is better, but I have others I skate with I can always pass them on to.

White with black stripe and that blue inner / clear sole is a bit weird, which is why I never looked at them before, but lets see how they fit.

https://www.vans.com.au/ave-pro-blanc-de-blanc-blk-vna4bt7uy6-wht.html
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Glad i could share the love!

Also, didnít realise you were aussie!! Whereabouts in Oz you in?
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Brisbane, or at least Brisbane born and bred, now still in QLD but an hour south south west.

There are actually quite a few Aussies here I have found.
Yep I got two pairs as well .. didn't need shoes but yeah couldn't pass on that price

Mrbrimson i see now that's paddo in your avatar   ;D
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Dooky-shoes on January 09, 2021, 09:42:59 AM
Iíve said it already.
Vans authentic pro are fucking terrible. Iíve had them for 6 months, worn them twice and hated every minute of it. I may be walking away from vans indefinitely.

Canít imagine skating in them.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: babywantsbluevelvet on January 09, 2021, 11:36:02 AM
Iíve said it already.
Vans authentic pro are fucking terrible. Iíve had them for 6 months, worn them twice and hated every minute of it. I may be walking away from vans indefinitely.

Canít imagine skating in them.

They just feel so much longer and flatter than the classics. I was recently gifted the wrapped suede authentic pros and they feel closer to the originals. Hoping the new skate authentics finally hit the mark.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 09, 2021, 03:45:48 PM
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Iíve said it already.
Vans authentic pro are fucking terrible. Iíve had them for 6 months, worn them twice and hated every minute of it. I may be walking away from vans indefinitely.

Canít imagine skating in them.
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They just feel so much longer and flatter than the classics. I was recently gifted the wrapped suede authentic pros and they feel closer to the originals. Hoping the new skate authentics finally hit the mark.

They were one of the shoes that were definitely on the upgrade list.

In mine, the heel area got stretched so they didn't want to stay on my feet, so I used some off cut strips from Footprint insoles and stitched them into the top back of the heel, to make them more like Eras and it works a treat.  I couldn't imagine that many other people would go to that extent just to wear some shoes, but they are the all black suede so are more my chiller and going out shoes than anything else.  I definitely like the padded collar of Era, Old Skool, etc.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: lemonchicken91 on January 09, 2021, 04:24:44 PM
These Kyle walkers are getting softer now starting to enjoy them a bit, still can't skate in them yet.
Y'all werent lying my feet are SWEATIN

Picked up the sk8 low in all black for my friend for under 50 they looked really good, should have gotten a pair for myself
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: babywantsbluevelvet on January 09, 2021, 05:20:48 PM
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Iíve said it already.
Vans authentic pro are fucking terrible. Iíve had them for 6 months, worn them twice and hated every minute of it. I may be walking away from vans indefinitely.

Canít imagine skating in them.
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They just feel so much longer and flatter than the classics. I was recently gifted the wrapped suede authentic pros and they feel closer to the originals. Hoping the new skate authentics finally hit the mark.
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They were one of the shoes that were definitely on the upgrade list.

In mine, the heel area got stretched so they didn't want to stay on my feet, so I used some off cut strips from Footprint insoles and stitched them into the top back of the heel, to make them more like Eras and it works a treat.  I couldn't imagine that many other people would go to that extent just to wear some shoes, but they are the all black suede so are more my chiller and going out shoes than anything else.  I definitely like the padded collar of Era, Old Skool, etc.

Nice, Iíll give that a shot with some old insoles. 
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 09, 2021, 05:24:51 PM
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Iíve said it already.
Vans authentic pro are fucking terrible. Iíve had them for 6 months, worn them twice and hated every minute of it. I may be walking away from vans indefinitely.

Canít imagine skating in them.
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They just feel so much longer and flatter than the classics. I was recently gifted the wrapped suede authentic pros and they feel closer to the originals. Hoping the new skate authentics finally hit the mark.
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They were one of the shoes that were definitely on the upgrade list.

In mine, the heel area got stretched so they didn't want to stay on my feet, so I used some off cut strips from Footprint insoles and stitched them into the top back of the heel, to make them more like Eras and it works a treat.  I couldn't imagine that many other people would go to that extent just to wear some shoes, but they are the all black suede so are more my chiller and going out shoes than anything else.  I definitely like the padded collar of Era, Old Skool, etc.
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Nice, Iíll give that a shot with some old insoles.

That was from when the insoles needed cutting down to fit in the shoes, rather than cutting up old insoles, but anything that is a bit more high density foam or rubber type of material would work.  I keep way too much of everything in the belief that some day I might need to use something, but in this case it worked really well.

I had heard of others cutting up old eras or old skools for the ankle padding part too, but that was a bit harder to sew on.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: sammyz on January 11, 2021, 03:51:11 AM
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PSA: vans Australia website has Ave proís for $50, down from $200!

I got 2 pairs (size 11 & 12) to see which one fits better...i have a few skate shoes but the deal was too good to pass up and everyone here has been talking good things about Aveís.
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Don't mind if I do!!!!!

I had been so good and not bought anything even though I get the emails and from Black Friday, all the pro classic range were down to $100 and I had a further 20% off as VIP / email, so Sk8 hi pro were $80 so I added to the cart and sat on lots until the offer ended.

This one however is too much of a deal / curiosity to pass up, so I got what might be the last two size 12 and two size 11 also just to check and see which is better, but I have others I skate with I can always pass them on to.

White with black stripe and that blue inner / clear sole is a bit weird, which is why I never looked at them before, but lets see how they fit.

https://www.vans.com.au/ave-pro-blanc-de-blanc-blk-vna4bt7uy6-wht.html
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Glad i could share the love!

Also, didnít realise you were aussie!! Whereabouts in Oz you in?
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Brisbane, or at least Brisbane born and bred, now still in QLD but an hour south south west.

There are actually quite a few Aussies here I have found.

Sweet...im in sydney.

Have you got the Aveís yet. Got mine in the mail today, just got back from a skate...i dont know if its the new shoe grip etc...but these shoes feel great, im able to stick a lot more of my tricks than with other shoes.

The only issue with is I cant wear my lace-up ankle braces. These shoes are really low cut and my feet feel like they will pop out of the heel with ankle braces, so will have to work something out with that i guess.

But my verdict...Aveís are great shoes.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 11, 2021, 04:40:27 AM
Sweet...im in sydney.

Have you got the Aveís yet. Got mine in the mail today, just got back from a skate...i dont know if its the new shoe grip etc...but these shoes feel great, im able to stick a lot more of my tricks than with other shoes.

The only issue with is I cant wear my lace-up ankle braces. These shoes are really low cut and my feet feel like they will pop out of the heel with ankle braces, so will have to work something out with that i guess.

But my verdict...Aveís are great shoes.

Supposed to be here tomorrow, so super quick on the shipping from Melbourne it seems, or at least that is one part of the order, so I am not sure if that is going to be all of it or just some of it or what.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Nth syd bear on January 12, 2021, 08:42:32 AM
I got my order from vans Tuesday these Aves are really nice definitely glad I got two pairs
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on January 12, 2021, 03:40:23 PM
Skate classics half cab


The shiny texture in the midsole is to reduce dirt. These are obviously black like the other skate classics models to release. But it’s the same as used on Rowan’s but there was feedback to those attracting too much dirt. So the shiny texture reduces that

Note the foxing reduced a few mm to match closer to the normal classics



https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ9cVUOnwxU/?igshid=1h3hos0hs93gs (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ9cVUOnwxU/?igshid=1h3hos0hs93gs)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: babywantsbluevelvet on January 13, 2021, 11:09:01 AM
Got the new Skate Sk8 Hi yesterday. Itís early and I havenít skated in them yet, but they feel very solid. The canvas pieces have been replaced with something I canít quite figure out, but it feels extremely durableóalmost like a waxed jacket. The insole seems to be of the same Popcush compound, but feels sturdier from a structural standpoint. They sit a bit lower and flatter (the sides donít come up as much) and the bottom has its own little waffle print thing going. As for the fit, new Vans always feel a little big at first and then fit like a glove once they bend to my feet. These are in line with my past experiences with classic Sk8 Hisóever so slightly roomier in the toes. I will say that the heel feels much more secure.

Iíve tried to attach pictures, so hopefully they work. The new insole is on the left.


(https://i.ibb.co/P5gtWGV/1-F0-E2031-B48-F-4-E1-B-9974-411-A19-C9-BF18.jpg) (https://ibb.co/P5gtWGV)(https://i.ibb.co/Vq1tY4L/C12-B2-BC6-A501-4-B94-B7-D1-4-F5-CD3704-C44.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Vq1tY4L)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: FatGuy92 on January 13, 2021, 12:56:52 PM
https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1

I know itís a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylanís slip on?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: drinny on January 13, 2021, 03:17:45 PM
Skate classics half cab


The shiny texture in the midsole is to reduce dirt. These are obviously black like the other skate classics models to release. But itís the same as used on Rowanís but there was feedback to those attracting too much dirt. So the shiny texture reduces that

Note the foxing reduced a few mm to match closer to the normal classics



https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ9cVUOnwxU/?igshid=1h3hos0hs93gs (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ9cVUOnwxU/?igshid=1h3hos0hs93gs)

Loved half cabs once... absolute best pair of I ever had were the Classics VANS HALF CAB 33 DX 'ANAHEIM FACTORY' - extra high and shiny foxing, heavier suede than normal, OG toe cap shape and a flat ultracush sheet (I put an insole on top in these as thereís room in the cut for me otherwise) Honestly even after nearly holing the kickflip toe rubber they had a bit of structure still.

The Croc Ď92 pros I got after this were beyond disappointing, like rubber slipper socks, little round balls on your heel (to tweak you anytime) and pretty much no ďmidĒ support at all - swore off Vans/Vulcs for good after this except for pissing around in for 5 mins tops feeling all styley.

Sounds like theyíre trying... but too much of a crapshoot for me now. Old man whining.

I darenít try the AVEs or Crockett hiís as no doubt with short runs/small feet syndrome Iíll never be able to replace a pair I found just right....
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: nevrwasben on January 13, 2021, 03:21:44 PM
https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1

I know itís a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylanís slip on?
All they did was remove eyelets man, I wear some of my authentics without laces for the beach; no new design so not really  a rip-off
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: stets on January 13, 2021, 03:48:20 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ_q5-SDmYm/

"The all new @vansskate Skate Sport Pro, a new take on a classic style skate shoe."
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 13, 2021, 04:47:01 PM
https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1

I know itís a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylanís slip on?

Definitely looks that way, but so many shoes with laces taken out will have that same sort of look, as already pointed out, but none every look that smooth and suave, do they?

New Berle pro shoe? *

* Sorry I couldn't help myself.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 13, 2021, 09:02:49 PM
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I know itís a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylanís slip on?
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Definitely looks that way, but so many shoes with laces taken out will have that same sort of look, as already pointed out, but none every look that smooth and suave, do they?

New Berle pro shoe? *

* Sorry I couldn't help myself.

I'd cop the black pair.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Crabby_Bastard on January 13, 2021, 10:11:28 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ_q5-SDmYm/

"The all new @vansskate Skate Sport Pro, a new take on a classic style skate shoe."

I generally think most Vans shoes are garbage. Poor construction and terrible fit. I got some of these new Skate Sport Pros today. Much better construction/materials and very comfortable right out of the box. I am pretty stoked on this shoe.

The only thing I am not very stoked on is the single stitching on the toe. Oh, and most Vans shoes have an incredibly strong chemical smell when new. These take the chemical smell to new levels of instant headache when opening the box.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 14, 2021, 04:50:17 AM
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"The all new @vansskate Skate Sport Pro, a new take on a classic style skate shoe."
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I generally think most Vans shoes are garbage. Poor construction and terrible fit. I got some of these new Skate Sport Pros today. Much better construction/materials and very comfortable right out of the box. I am pretty stoked on this shoe.

The only thing I am not very stoked on is the single stitching on the toe. Oh, and most Vans shoes have an incredibly strong chemical smell when new. These take the chemical smell to new levels of instant headache when opening the box.

I was looking at the sole and sidewall areas before, just wondering how different they would be, but I think that is a good review right there.

Note to self:  Remember to open outside or in a well ventilated area though!


Speaking of ventilation, I usually take a tiny tube of superglue to the stitches in areas like that, just a very fine line over them so they are covered but don't look like a big old mess, so I am thinking that would be the best thing to do with that single front stitched area.

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: ClayH on January 14, 2021, 04:35:19 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJ_q5-SDmYm/

"The all new @vansskate Skate Sport Pro, a new take on a classic style skate shoe."
These look really nice. Could be a new blazer alternative? I love blazers but itís hard to bring myself to buy a pair when I could go the vans outlet down the road and get two pairs for the price of one pair of blazers. Definitely gonna give these a shot.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: sammyz on January 14, 2021, 06:11:44 PM
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https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1

I know itís a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylanís slip on?
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Definitely looks that way, but so many shoes with laces taken out will have that same sort of look, as already pointed out, but none every look that smooth and suave, do they?

New Berle pro shoe? *

* Sorry I couldn't help myself.
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I'd cop the black pair.

definitely Dylan inspired...but at least they look better without the pointy toe cap...thats the thing that annoys me about the Dylans
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Big Skatefase on January 14, 2021, 08:06:24 PM
https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1

I know itís a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylanís slip on?

Dylan's sister not feelin em

(https://i.imgur.com/5lxtELY.png)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: CrimsonGhost on January 14, 2021, 08:24:58 PM
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https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1

I know itís a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylanís slip on?
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Dylan's sister not feelin em

(https://i.imgur.com/5lxtELY.png)

Good luck with that

(https://i.imgur.com/HBpQ6vs.png)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: nevrwasben on January 14, 2021, 08:58:56 PM
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https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1

I know itís a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylanís slip on?
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Dylan's sister not feelin em

(https://i.imgur.com/5lxtELY.png)
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Good luck with that

(https://i.imgur.com/HBpQ6vs.png)
Not only that &#128070;, but Iím pretty sure the shoe company Frye was putting out a more similar version that was most likely where the gravis shoe was inspired from than the Vans version. Sorry to say, but his sister is trippin...
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: CrimsonGhost on January 14, 2021, 09:16:07 PM
Dylan also wore authentics alot, before and after Gravis fell apart. I'm not knocking her for defending her brother, but doing some basic Google searches shows how foolish she is making herself out to be.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 14, 2021, 10:39:08 PM
There are so many comments on the post, so not going to get into it, but have a laugh / look anyway if you are curious.

I wonder how many of them are actually old enough to know much, besides just saying "Dylan / Huf" blah blah blah.

They look clean and stylish, but I am more stoked on something I can do the laces up and have the shoe stay on my feet, but I am old and boring too, I guess.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CKB4BKDLvhy/

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: FatGuy92 on January 15, 2021, 12:55:16 AM
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https://hypebeast.com/2021/1/vans-authentic-slip-black-burgundy-release-info?amp=1

I know itís a slip on / authentic mash up but anyone else think this is a complete rip off of Dylanís slip on?
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Dylan's sister not feelin em

(https://i.imgur.com/5lxtELY.png)

Yeah she's bummed lol. I get where she's coming from, but also understand that it really is an authentic with no lace eyelets.

There are so many comments on the post, so not going to get into it, but have a laugh / look anyway if you are curious.

I wonder how many of them are actually old enough to know much, besides just saying "Dylan / Huf" blah blah blah.

They look clean and stylish, but I am more stoked on something I can do the laces up and have the shoe stay on my feet, but I am old and boring too, I guess.



https://www.instagram.com/p/CKB4BKDLvhy/

I'm sure most people are able to identify the Vans Authentic (even my mom can and she knows fuck all about sneakers). It's as classic a silhouette as the Chuck Taylor is imo. I think the issue here is that Dylan popularized this exact style of slip on in skateboarding and had a successful run of them on two different brands and now Vans is doing something similar (down to an oxblood ish color way) after Huf's shoe line is gone. I seem to also remember Alex Olson saying that the shoe they wanted to make on Vans for him was a rip off of Dylan's first shoe.

Not hating on Vans, I almost exclusively wear pros nowadays and if they release a pro version of this, I'll probably try it out. Just saying I see where these comments are coming from in a way.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: spacial_profiling on January 15, 2021, 04:33:28 AM
To add insult to injury, Dylan originated this shoe style in skating having borrowed it from Prada I believe and was shit on in the industry for it, including by people at Vans. Him and Huf gone, cash grab. Soft af.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: kneebone on January 15, 2021, 06:18:44 AM
this is the frye shoe, which some believe Dylan took his "inspiration" from.  It's even got the same little tab at the base of the tongue.  c'mon
(https://di2ponv0v5otw.cloudfront.net/posts/2018/01/07/5a52502efcdc310a8400e333/m_5a5250551dffda1c3800de5b.jpg)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Murge on January 15, 2021, 06:42:12 AM
Vans is a lame. This proves it. I get that Dylan didnít invent it but he made it known in skateboarding. Now vans is ripping it off. Shit is lame.


Itís like frye is the nerves and the shoes are hanging on the telephone. Blondie (Dylan)covers it makes it popular   Everyone thinks itís her song. Then you got some other established band( vans) playing hanging on the telephone. Acting like itís not a cover and they wrote it.

Fuck vans.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on January 15, 2021, 06:53:43 AM
Eh. Footwear companies pull from the same trends and style reports and wgsn future seasons all the time. It’s certainly not a trademarked style or model or anything. The other thread showed vans already releasing a leather pack of authentic slip ons years ago called the authentic gore dx

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Vans-Womens-Authentic-Gore-DX-Leather-Lifestyle-Slip-On-Sneakers/630885380?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=2805&&adid=22222222228397399856&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=484080531022&wl4=aud-1028050746458:pla-1056428583338&wl5=9002215&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=113510284&wl11=online&wl12=630885380&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAiAl4WABhAJEiwATUnEF9FM5wusrcYymMHydwnroP6JFlQmVNomFKTixtvZOx2de8JTb_bEDBoC00UQAvD_BwE

(https://www.slapmagazine.com/blob:https://www.slapmagazine.com/bba564a8-56d0-4528-bbd9-14a4a733c82b)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Sila on January 15, 2021, 07:05:33 AM
The pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Murge on January 15, 2021, 07:10:01 AM
The pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing

I donít feel pain. I donít feel anything but it is what it is.  Didnít wear Dylanís wonít wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. Youíre probably a hypocrite.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: lemonchicken91 on January 15, 2021, 07:38:59 AM
They have those new skate classics at jacks garage

https://garageskateshop.com/collections/shoes/products/sk8-hi-pro-core-classic
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Croquet temper on January 15, 2021, 07:40:44 AM
I don't skate in slip-ons and certainly would never partake in any skate slip-on related drama.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Sila on January 15, 2021, 07:46:25 AM
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The pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing
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I donít feel pain. I donít feel anything but it is what it is.  Didnít wear Dylanís wonít wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. Youíre probably a hypocrite.

Dylan's shoe wasn't exactly unique
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on January 15, 2021, 08:21:39 AM
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The pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing
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I donít feel pain. I donít feel anything but it is what it is.  Didnít wear Dylanís wonít wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. Youíre probably a hypocrite.

I did wear Dylan's and they don't fucking make them anymore so it is what it is. Dylan's shoe wasn't even an original design and Vans shoes are the most ripped off shoe in history.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: SKATELYNJENNER on January 15, 2021, 08:23:53 AM
I love Dylan just as much as the next guy and I can kinda see where these people are coming from but calling the Van's model a rip off is pretty rich considering Dylan more or less ripped the design off from another shoe in the first place. Give Van's some slack, think about how often the Half Cab etc. is ripped off and they're not tripping.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Szechuan on January 15, 2021, 09:19:35 AM
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The pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing
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I donít feel pain. I donít feel anything but it is what it is.  Didnít wear Dylanís wonít wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. Youíre probably a hypocrite.

Think Berle will be rocking these?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 15, 2021, 09:52:28 AM
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The pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing
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I donít feel pain. I donít feel anything but it is what it is.  Didnít wear Dylanís wonít wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. Youíre probably a hypocrite.
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Think Berle will be rocking these?

Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.

Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: stets on January 15, 2021, 10:10:43 AM
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Think Berle will be rocking these?
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Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.

Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?

Again y'all. This shoe is coming from the Wild West out East of Vans Japan where they seem to do fuckall with whatever they want inside Japan independent of the Vans' normal production and distribution. I heard they even use their own factories independent of the Vans we know. These aren't coming to America or Europe. This isn't Vans trying to step on Dylan's ground... it's just Vans Japan doing what they always seem to do, from Stan Smith ripoffs to AF1 ripoffs to even like Danner Boot ripoffs.

As for Berle, the Vans company that makes/gives shoes to him won't be making these, so I almost guarantee he will not be getting any of these unless he has a homie in Japan get them for him.

Only way you are getting them is if you have a homie in Japan buy them at ABC Mart and send them to you.
(That being said, are there any Slap Pals in Japan down to order me a pair in japan size 28??)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Murge on January 15, 2021, 10:30:35 AM
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The pain that some are feeling over this shoe is very amusing
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I donít feel pain. I donít feel anything but it is what it is.  Didnít wear Dylanís wonít wear these. But it is a blatant rip off. If anyone finds this fine and Berles cosplay in poor taste. Youíre probably a hypocrite.
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Think Berle will be rocking these?

I immediately think of that meme of the sweaty kid in class and itís Berle trying not wear them.
This shoe completes his cosplay. Itís his wet dream that came alive
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: TastyBurrito on January 15, 2021, 10:31:07 AM
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Think Berle will be rocking these?
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Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.

Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?
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(That being said, are there any Slap Pals in Japan down to order me a pair in japan size 28??)

Thank you for making that clear. Also I need a Japan sz 28 as well. Preferably black.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: twic3 on January 15, 2021, 10:44:14 AM
I havent seen them at my local shops yet but I think Beatrice is coming out with her own colorway of the "dylan slip ons" from what I seen on her insta. black leather with the pro insole in it.

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: stets on January 15, 2021, 11:26:50 AM
I havent seen them at my local shops yet but I think Beatrice is coming out with her own colorway of the "dylan slip ons" from what I seen on her insta. black leather with the pro insole in it.

I saw them too and was wondering:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50839068192_478911499e_z.jpg)

But to me they kinda look like the style Fear Of God did with them a few years back:
(https://images.solecollector.com/complex/images/c_crop,h_558,w_982,x_57,y_87/c_fill,dpr_2.0,f_auto,fl_lossy,q_auto,w_800/qho0dzezk8gaen2lmsvx/fear-of-god-vans-style-147-red-black)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: kneebone on January 15, 2021, 01:16:16 PM
The Beatrice shoe is a penny-loafer style, not a Dylan slip-on.  Dylan did have that "driver shoe" on Huf that is sorta similar, but Beatrice's shoe is 100% a vulcanized penny loafer.

Edit:  somewhat clearer shot from her insta:
(https://i.imgur.com/FsrVNDs.jpeg)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: blueskynoise on January 15, 2021, 02:37:48 PM
The Beatrice shoe is a penny-loafer style, not a Dylan slip-on.  Dylan did have that "driver shoe" on Huf that is sorta similar, but Beatrice's shoe is 100% a vulcanized penny loafer.

Edit:  somewhat clearer shot from her insta:
(https://i.imgur.com/FsrVNDs.jpeg)

These are sick. Another vans to add to the collection, ha. Not to go totally off topic, but Iím loving the AVEs way more than I thought I would. Might grab a pair of beatriceís colorway for the hell of it
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on January 15, 2021, 04:58:33 PM
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Think Berle will be rocking these?
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Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.

Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?
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Again y'all. This shoe is coming from the Wild West out East of Vans Japan where they seem to do fuckall with whatever they want inside Japan independent of the Vans' normal production and distribution. I heard they even use their own factories independent of the Vans we know. These aren't coming to America or Europe. This isn't Vans trying to step on Dylan's ground... it's just Vans Japan doing what they always seem to do, from Stan Smith ripoffs to AF1 ripoffs to even like Danner Boot ripoffs.

As for Berle, the Vans company that makes/gives shoes to him won't be making these, so I almost guarantee he will not be getting any of these unless he has a homie in Japan get them for him.

Only way you are getting them is if you have a homie in Japan buy them at ABC Mart and send them to you.
(That being said, are there any Slap Pals in Japan down to order me a pair in japan size 28??)

You need this guy...

Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on January 15, 2021, 05:03:19 PM
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Think Berle will be rocking these?
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Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.

Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?
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(That being said, are there any Slap Pals in Japan down to order me a pair in japan size 28??)
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Thank you for making that clear. Also I need a Japan sz 28 as well. Preferably black.
Whatever the equivalent of US 9.5 is I want a pair.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on January 15, 2021, 06:51:12 PM
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Think Berle will be rocking these?
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Seeing that he prefers Old Skools, Authentics, and Slip Ons. I say yes.

Also, seeing that he's a fan of vulc shoes, I wonder if he was forced to make a shoe with the WaffleCup in order to have a shoe?
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Again y'all. This shoe is coming from the Wild West out East of Vans Japan where they seem to do fuckall with whatever they want inside Japan independent of the Vans' normal production and distribution. I heard they even use their own factories independent of the Vans we know. These aren't coming to America or Europe. This isn't Vans trying to step on Dylan's ground... it's just Vans Japan doing what they always seem to do, from Stan Smith ripoffs to AF1 ripoffs to even like Danner Boot ripoffs.

As for Berle, the Vans company that makes/gives shoes to him won't be making these, so I almost guarantee he will not be getting any of these unless he has a homie in Japan get them for him.

Only way you are getting them is if you have a homie in Japan buy them at ABC Mart and send them to you.
(That being said, are there any Slap Pals in Japan down to order me a pair in japan size 28??)

I really donít believe that if Berle asked Vans to get him these they wouldnít have boxes of them on his doorstep, that said he has to be aware of his Dylan-isms and that people are onto it so I really canít imagine him doing it.

At what point do AVE and Dill have to step in and have a conversation about his cosplay?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: mynameisnotjeff on January 15, 2021, 07:05:17 PM
Wasnít the rumor that Berle was passed to let this one slide to push the tech and would be given more creative control for his 2nd shoe?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: concerned_parent on January 27, 2021, 11:18:00 AM
inquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: kneebone on January 27, 2021, 01:54:47 PM
inquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?
I had a pair of anaheim Sids that were also at least a half size smaller than every other pair of non-anaheim vans that i've had.  So yeah, it's probably consistent across all anaheims.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: IanBZHD on January 27, 2021, 02:12:27 PM
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inquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?
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I had a pair of anaheim Sids that were also at least a half size smaller than every other pair of non-anaheim vans that i've had.  So yeah, it's probably consistent across all anaheims.
Whoa, great info. I got some Anaheim Collection Sports in hopes of skating them, but they are definitely about a quarter size too small and smash my toes. I was really stressing out not knowing my shoe size.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: lemonchicken91 on January 27, 2021, 03:10:23 PM
after a few weeks w the kyle walkers

wafflecup is legit

ultracush is too squishy and my feet move around too much
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: concerned_parent on January 28, 2021, 04:42:47 AM
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inquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?
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I had a pair of anaheim Sids that were also at least a half size smaller than every other pair of non-anaheim vans that i've had.  So yeah, it's probably consistent across all anaheims.

bless your soul, thanks.

ALSO

i tried on a pair of those kyle walker 2's at a nordstrom rack for shits and giggles.

whoever designed this shoe should be shot. felt so insecure on my foot not to mention looks terrible. strap didn't make the shoe feel locked in on my foot at all. no clue how these are still on shelves.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Croquet temper on January 28, 2021, 05:08:42 AM
They're for the moms.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jakeumms on January 28, 2021, 08:21:01 AM
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inquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?
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I had a pair of anaheim Sids that were also at least a half size smaller than every other pair of non-anaheim vans that i've had.  So yeah, it's probably consistent across all anaheims.
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bless your soul, thanks.

ALSO

i tried on a pair of those kyle walker 2's at a nordstrom rack for shits and giggles.

whoever designed this shoe should be shot. felt so insecure on my foot not to mention looks terrible. strap didn't make the shoe feel locked in on my foot at all. no clue how these are still on shelves.
Hopefully they're blowing them out and will just keep the first KWalks in the line. I was just reminiscing about Vans weird strappy slip-on phase from what last year? The year before? I was thinking in particular about the strap-on that came out before the KWalk2 that had the screen printed multicolor jazz stripe and how that shoe disappeared after one run. They have a BMX slip-on coming out which is just the regular slip upper with a wafflecup sole. I think that's what everyone who wanted a cup slip was asking for so hopefully they wind up feeling pretty good. Whatever Vans was trying before just didn't look good and I couldn't imagine how it would feel good either.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: lemonchicken91 on January 28, 2021, 08:56:49 AM
do you think we will get any new models w the AVE sole
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: moonordie on January 28, 2021, 07:00:05 PM
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inquiry. interested in buying some of the anaheim sk8-hi's. i had a pair of the style 73 (epoch/sport) anaheims and found them to run about a half size small. does this carry through with the other anaheim models? anyone have any experience with this?
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I had a pair of anaheim Sids that were also at least a half size smaller than every other pair of non-anaheim vans that i've had.  So yeah, it's probably consistent across all anaheims.
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bless your soul, thanks.

ALSO

i tried on a pair of those kyle walker 2's at a nordstrom rack for shits and giggles.

whoever designed this shoe should be shot. felt so insecure on my foot not to mention looks terrible. strap didn't make the shoe feel locked in on my foot at all. no clue how these are still on shelves.
Kyle walker 2s are the worst pieces of shit since the Berles.
I kinda like the look and that's it. Performance wise they're horrible. Weird flick, sole lasts nothing, strap gets loose and toy can feel it on your feet. A complete disappointment since the 1s were really nice.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: shawngreg on January 29, 2021, 09:47:20 AM
has anyone seen the new all black skate halfcabs anywhere?
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: kneebone on January 29, 2021, 10:41:44 AM
some new colors on the Vans site now
Sport
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/HEK3JC-HERO?$510x510$)
Crockett
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/HES3EX-HERO?$510x510$)
and everyone's favorite in this thread, Walker 2
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/HETZFN-HERO?$510x510$)
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Firebert on January 29, 2021, 12:13:36 PM
has anyone seen the new all black skate halfcabs anywhere?
Yeah, Reynolds' insta  :P
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: stets on January 29, 2021, 02:49:03 PM
(https://images.vans.com/is/image/Vans/HEV38Z-HERO?$583x583$)
New Rowan colorway got me feeling a certain way, nostalgic for my earlier years in skateboarding, and I didn't know why...

Then I remembered...
(https://www.videomaker.com/wp-content/uploads/drpl/blogposts/2007/02/20098792_l.gif)

Not mad at this riff at all.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: TwisT on February 01, 2021, 11:45:17 AM
According to some guy on tiktok (via reddit)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vans/comments/la6mol/the_vans_pros_will_soon_be_gone_we_have_gotten/

Vans is discontinuing their pro classics and replacing the line with skate classics.
If you have a vans store homie, they get 75% off pro classics

but also the recall means, that the vans outlet will probably get pro classics pretty soon.
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: jay_nev on February 01, 2021, 01:18:20 PM
Even bigger discounts coming
Title: Re: new Vans models
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 01, 2021, 04:51:03 PM
Just when I thought I would NOT buy any more shoes...

Oh damn!