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considering the figgy dose's or something of that matter. i cant skate vulc any more due to foot problems from skate related injuries. i hate chunkers so im looking for something that looks slim but still offers good foot support. insole does not matter as i use a custom orthotic. thanks
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OG busenitz
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considering the figgy dose's or something of that matter. i cant skate vulc any more due to foot problems from skate related injuries. i hate chunkers so im looking for something that looks slim but still offers good foot support. insole does not matter as i use a custom orthotic. thanks
If you feel like it: how much were the orthotics?
Worth it?
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Maybe try NB 574
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I really like the adidas 3st 004 - not bulky and good foot protection.
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considering the figgy dose's or something of that matter. i cant skate vulc any more due to foot problems from skate related injuries. i hate chunkers so im looking for something that looks slim but still offers good foot support. insole does not matter as i use a custom orthotic. thanks
If you feel like it: how much were the orthotics?
Worth it?
500$. i literally cannot push without feeling pain unless im wearing my customs, so its pretty much a necessity for me at this point. if you dont have a diagnosed foot condition (sesamoiditis in my case) i would recommend FP game changers and save yourself 450$. i wear them in my work/non skate shoes and they help significantly. My homies all seem to really like them as well. but if you do have diagnosed fucked feet, definitely spend the extra cash and get some customs. you wont regret it. feet massagers / contrast baths also help tons after a heavy sesh.
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considering the figgy dose's or something of that matter. i cant skate vulc any more due to foot problems from skate related injuries. i hate chunkers so im looking for something that looks slim but still offers good foot support. insole does not matter as i use a custom orthotic. thanks
If you feel like it: how much were the orthotics?
Worth it?
500$. i literally cannot push without feeling pain unless im wearing my customs, so its pretty much a necessity for me at this point. if you dont have a diagnosed foot condition (sesamoiditis in my case) i would recommend FP game changers and save yourself 450$. i wear them in my work/non skate shoes and they help significantly. My homies all seem to really like them as well. but if you do have diagnosed fucked feet, definitely spend the extra cash and get some customs. you wont regret it. feet massagers / contrast baths also help tons after a heavy sesh.
Thanks!
Do the fp game changers work in the stead of the insoles that come with the shoe? So let’s say....vans, remove the whole popcush/ultracush insole and use just the fp game changers?
Trying to find a foot massager that works as well.
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considering the figgy dose's or something of that matter. i cant skate vulc any more due to foot problems from skate related injuries. i hate chunkers so im looking for something that looks slim but still offers good foot support. insole does not matter as i use a custom orthotic. thanks
If you feel like it: how much were the orthotics?
Worth it?
500$. i literally cannot push without feeling pain unless im wearing my customs, so its pretty much a necessity for me at this point. if you dont have a diagnosed foot condition (sesamoiditis in my case) i would recommend FP game changers and save yourself 450$. i wear them in my work/non skate shoes and they help significantly. My homies all seem to really like them as well. but if you do have diagnosed fucked feet, definitely spend the extra cash and get some customs. you wont regret it. feet massagers / contrast baths also help tons after a heavy sesh.
Thanks!
Do the fp game changers work in the stead of the insoles that come with the shoe? So let’s say....vans, remove the whole popcush/ultracush insole and use just the fp game changers?
Trying to find a foot massager that works as well.
Yup, chuck those vans insoles in the trash. i use a hammacher schlemmer foot massager if that helps.
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you still want a Blazer Mid, you just don't know it yet
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considering the figgy dose's or something of that matter. i cant skate vulc any more due to foot problems from skate related injuries. i hate chunkers so im looking for something that looks slim but still offers good foot support. insole does not matter as i use a custom orthotic. thanks
If you feel like it: how much were the orthotics?
Worth it?
500$. i literally cannot push without feeling pain unless im wearing my customs, so its pretty much a necessity for me at this point. if you dont have a diagnosed foot condition (sesamoiditis in my case) i would recommend FP game changers and save yourself 450$. i wear them in my work/non skate shoes and they help significantly. My homies all seem to really like them as well. but if you do have diagnosed fucked feet, definitely spend the extra cash and get some customs. you wont regret it. feet massagers / contrast baths also help tons after a heavy sesh.
I have sesamoiditis as well. Unfortunately I have two other issues on the same foot that make buying shoes a living hell. My custom orthotics fit like complete shit in most supportive shoes plus I have a couple bone spurs on the back of my heel where my Achilles attaches so I have to look out for a shoe that fits properly in the heel with my orthotics.
I have been skating a lot of Lakai Griffin and Sheffield shoes over the last few years. They are vulc but my orthotics are carbon fiber from the arch through the heel so it makes most vulcs feel like I am wearing a cup sole. I recently got some Adidas Superstar ADV cup sole shoes. They have a soft foam layer in the footbed that feels great on the forefoot and decent support in the heel. I haven't skated them yet but they are comfy.
Look into the Lakai Atlantic. I have a pair of those as well. They have a soft foam layer under the insole as well. Very comfy. I just don't like the shape of the side wall in the forefoot. Flick is way off for me.
I have been dealing with this for 4 years now. Feel free to hit me up if you want to compare notes.
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you still want a Blazer Mid, you just don't know it yet
Well, if you are ok with ollie holes after three sessions. Oh yeah and hurt knees because the insoles are hot garbage.
I just ordered Spanky g6s, high hopes for the midsole. If it's anything like Reynolds g6, i will fully recommend checking them out.
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you still want a Blazer Mid, you just don't know it yet
I just ordered Spanky g6s, high hopes for the midsole. If it's anything like Reynolds g6, i will fully recommend checking them out.
The OP has custom orthitics, so the shitty insole on the Blazers makes zero difference. I had some Blazer Chukkas that lasted me longer than most shoes I have had in a while. But, when I ollie, I wear the rubber bumper down before it starts to hit the suede. All current Blazers are very solid shoes when you have custom orthotics.
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Finding supportive cupsoles that I can wear with orthotics is an ongoing obsession for me. Ones that I found supportive for my destroyed feet without being too chunky:
- Adidas Tyshawn - borderline chunky, but I think it looks fine laced up and underneath pants
- Converse Pro Leather
- Vans AVE Pro - tried these on, didn't buy them, but they felt good - not into how they look, but that's me
- NB# Westgate 913 - with a warning: for me, the heel was a little too narrow for my orthotics to sit in them well, and the shoe never stretched around them. I kept having to take off my shoe and adjust my orthotics because of this.
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eS Swift 1s, or accel slim pluses?
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Finding supportive cupsoles that I can wear with orthotics is an ongoing obsession for me. Ones that I found supportive for my destroyed feet without being too chunky:
- Adidas Tyshawn - borderline chunky, but I think it looks fine laced up and underneath pants
- Converse Pro Leather
- Vans AVE Pro - tried these on, didn't buy them, but they felt good - not into how they look, but that's me
- NB# Westgate 913 - with a warning: for me, the heel was a little too narrow for my orthotics to sit in them well, and the shoe never stretched around them. I kept having to take off my shoe and adjust my orthotics because of this.
Haven’t had 913s, even tho I really like nb and he’s one of my favorites, because I dunno why.
Out of this list pro leathers are probably my top choice, but sentimental reasons are maybe weighing in too heavily. They skate/flick really well and I love the sole/grip but I can roll around in the shoe some.
The AVE’s are the most locked down safe I’ve felt in a shoe, maybe ever. I don’t have some now to look at it, and I don’t use orthotics, so I’m not sure if they’d work. The shoe had a very stable, but firm feel. Not a lot of cushion, miss them tho. Some people say that shoe doesn’t last for them. Which sucks when you just paid $100. Mine lasted. Extremely well.
I’m skating tyshawn’s right now, I went tts and have super feet running insoles in them. Pebble magnet. Narrow toe. Good, hard/firm rubber sole. Nice height, great tongue. ‘Charming’ lines, almost looks like a Jordan-esque shoe but in a baby’s size. Something about the look of the shoe seem....dunno wtf I’m talking about
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you still want a Blazer Mid, you just don't know it yet
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you still want a Blazer Mid, you just don't know it yet
Yeah I should probably do this. I haven’t had some in so long. I went thru a run of bruins, and some blazers, but it’s been so long I’ve forgotten. Tried the grant’s on and it’s just not a shoe for me.
Blazer’s tts and work with aftermarket insoles?
What’s the most padded shoe? And also most padded vulc?
Please and thanks
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Finding supportive cupsoles that I can wear with orthotics is an ongoing obsession for me. Ones that I found supportive for my destroyed feet without being too chunky:
- Adidas Tyshawn - borderline chunky, but I think it looks fine laced up and underneath pants
- Converse Pro Leather
- Vans AVE Pro - tried these on, didn't buy them, but they felt good - not into how they look, but that's me
- NB# Westgate 913 - with a warning: for me, the heel was a little too narrow for my orthotics to sit in them well, and the shoe never stretched around them. I kept having to take off my shoe and adjust my orthotics because of this.
Haven’t had 913s, even tho I really like nb and he’s one of my favorites, because I dunno why.
Out of this list pro leathers are probably my top choice, but sentimental reasons are maybe weighing in too heavily. They skate/flick really well and I love the sole/grip but I can roll around in the shoe some.
The AVE’s are the most locked down safe I’ve felt in a shoe, maybe ever. I don’t have some now to look at it, and I don’t use orthotics, so I’m not sure if they’d work. The shoe had a very stable, but firm feel. Not a lot of cushion, miss them tho. Some people say that shoe doesn’t last for them. Which sucks when you just paid $100. Mine lasted. Extremely well.
I’m skating tyshawn’s right now, I went tts and have super feet running insoles in them. Pebble magnet. Narrow toe. Good, hard/firm rubber sole. Nice height, great tongue. ‘Charming’ lines, almost looks like a Jordan-esque shoe but in a baby’s size. Something about the look of the shoe seem....dunno wtf I’m talking about
The 913's kind of look like baseball coach shoes, but they got a lot of functional tech stuff in there without making them football sized.
The Pro Leathers had a nice supportive sole (some people will definitely find them too thick/stiff), and locked my foot in well, which can be a problem with orthotics. They held up well, and the suede lasted a while (I had the Cons x Hopps collab ones). My only complaint was that I'd like the heel to have been a little lower - had me feeling just a bit more 'on my toes' than I like. Orthotics push your heel up a little, so if the shoe does that too, it can be too much tilt.
The AVE's were a good fit for my orthotics because they have kind of a half-thickness ultracush insole on top of the midsole. I removed the Ultracush and put my orthotics on top of the midsole, and it seemed like a good fit/cushion/support combo. I can't say how they hold up to skating though, because I find the translucent outsole to be too ugly to buy.
The Tyshawns, I did find the toe a little narrow too, but good otherwise. I liked how firm the sole was (big turn off for me is when outsoles are too soft/floppy). The collar height/cushion was perfect. I had the white leather ones with red stripes, which are the only colourway of that shoe I have really liked. I'm with you on the lines - I generally like the idea of skate shoes that are based on old basketball shoe design.
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Etnies Marana, Marana Mid, Joslin 1, Joslin 2. All have good padding but not too thick. Removable insoles so replacing with a custom should work well.
Nike SB Dunks with the puffy tongue/collar. Also removable insoles.
Es Silo. Maybe the new Evant but haven't tried so idk. Removable insoles on both.
Blazer Mids... maybe. They're vulc and have good ankle support, plus feel good with the right insoles. Your customs may work well in these since these have removable ones as well.
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Af2 + game changer if possible. Amazing shoe tho it didn't seem it till I started chilling in them for like two weeks
Last for ever runs half a size smaller than dunks and Blazers
Toe is a funny shape but it will break in to a good shape.
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Af2 + game changer if possible. Amazing shoe tho it didn't seem it till I started chilling in them for like two weeks
Last for ever runs half a size smaller than dunks and Blazers
Toe is a funny shape but it will break in to a good shape.
I definitely fucked up not getting these
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you still want a Blazer Mid, you just don't know it yet
blazer mid is vulc tho right? i did have a pair of blazer lows a few years back and didnt like them due to durability issues. im not opposed tho if they'll make my feet feel better
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you still want a Blazer Mid, you just don't know it yet
blazer mid is vulc tho right? i did have a pair of blazer lows a few years back and didnt like them due to durability issues. im not opposed tho if they'll make my feet feel better
Yeah they mids.
People that I’ve seen that really really skate often seem to favor them.
It’s been years for me, I cannot even remember how they felt.
Due to the above recommendations I’m leaning towards getting another pair of AVEs and some fp insoles.
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considering the figgy dose's or something of that matter. i cant skate vulc any more due to foot problems from skate related injuries. i hate chunkers so im looking for something that looks slim but still offers good foot support. insole does not matter as i use a custom orthotic. thanks
emerica laced.
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you still want a Blazer Mid, you just don't know it yet
blazer mid is vulc tho right? i did have a pair of blazer lows a few years back and didnt like them due to durability issues. im not opposed tho if they'll make my feet feel better
Yes they're vulcs. They're good quality vulcs that people really like, but if you have problems with your feet, they aren't going to help. They're good shoes, but they're not what you're looking for. You need a cupsole with a supportive outsole and a well cushioned midsole, and they aren't it.
Someone mentioned the Spanky Emericas a few posts ago, and I'd add those to the list of possible options. Pretty minimal upper, but good support/cushion combo. I tried them on a while ago and they didn't fit my foot well (too narrow in the mid foot, and toe shape was more pointy than I like), but they'd probably be a good option if they fit you.
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I really like the adidas 3st 004 - not bulky and good foot protection.
As a older guy with ruined ankles, I tried these and they are pretty good. My ankles did not like OG Busenitz or Busenitz Vulc (honestly think it was the sole that my feet did not like?). There is a high possibility that I go back to half cabs after this though. One of those "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" kind of dealios.
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Just to give everyone an update, i ordered a pair of vans AVE's. I have a wide foot which i heard these are good for, as well as a really supportive cup soul. ill update yall with how they perform. for 100$ im expecting good things
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Just to give everyone an update, i ordered a pair of vans AVE's. I have a wide foot which i heard these are good for, as well as a really supportive cup soul. ill update yall with how they perform. for 100$ im expecting good things
I think I’m headed for this route again.
Still want to get some fp’s for ‘em tho.
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I really like the adidas 3st 004 - not bulky and good foot protection.
As a older guy with ruined ankles, I tried these and they are pretty good. My ankles did not like OG Busenitz or Busenitz Vulc (honestly think it was the sole that my feet did not like?). There is a high possibility that I go back to half cabs after this though. One of those "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" kind of dealios.
Old guy here as well and my foot problems are usually big toe(s) related. I love the look and board feel from half cabs but I still try to flip my board often and if I meet up with uncle primo its curtains. I have sworn off vulcs for this reason. Is the newest AVE a cupsole?
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I really like the adidas 3st 004 - not bulky and good foot protection.
As a older guy with ruined ankles, I tried these and they are pretty good. My ankles did not like OG Busenitz or Busenitz Vulc (honestly think it was the sole that my feet did not like?). There is a high possibility that I go back to half cabs after this though. One of those "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" kind of dealios.
Newest AVE is a cup.
That new Gilbert is wafflecup? I think? I’m interested in that one.
I’m basically in the same spot: dusty, fragile. And yet have left three days in a row to skate in year old slip on pros (I have a better chance of flipping and landing on the board). Have hobbled back in the door.
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Fully back the Spanky G6. Favourite shoe in years. The G6 cushion works wonders.
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the DC kalis S, Tiago S (sure you can find a lot on sale) are both really good!
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Just to update everybody, im on my 3rd pair of AVE's. havent loved a shoe this much in years. no foot pain what so ever. amazing flick, amazing durabilty (for vans), and most importantly my feet feel great. so happy on how these perform. its been a while since ive felt this way about a shoe.
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Just to update everybody, im on my 3rd pair of AVE's. havent loved a shoe this much in years. no foot pain what so ever. amazing flick, amazing durabilty (for vans), and most importantly my feet feel great. so happy on how these perform. its been a while since ive felt this way about a shoe.
Same same, I’m only skating AVE’s rn.
Thanks for your info earlier in thread.
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Imo New balance is making some of the best modern cupsoles on the market with decent foot support.
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Don´t know if it counts as not chunky, but I m skating the NB 868 at the moment and I love it. Any recommendations what to skate when I retire them (don´t have to be NB)? In the pictures the Tiago ones look a bit too big for my taste... Dunks would be great but are too hard to get at the moment.
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I really like the adidas 3st 004 - not bulky and good foot protection.
I agree with this. I bought a pair (the ugly orange ones) last year and they're great - Especially the heel protection.
I also like the Osiris Relic with a Dr. Scholl's insert.
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Don´t know if it counts as not chunky, but I m skating the NB 868 at the moment and I love it. Any recommendations what to skate when I retire them (don´t have to be NB)? In the pictures the Tiago ones look a bit too big for my taste... Dunks would be great but are too hard to get at the moment.
Dc legacy slim. Real decent shoe.
I really liked the 868. The AVE’s also have a firm feeling sole, the tyshawns have a firm feeling sole as well.
I should have gotten the 913s, but got on this AVE kick.....
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Imo New balance is making some of the best modern cupsoles on the market with decent foot support.
just got some 420s and they are great !
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I really like the adidas 3st 004 - not bulky and good foot protection.
Yes and the Suciu Adv
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When you say supportive, what exactly are you looking for? Is stability an issue where you need a shoe that’ll securely keep your foot planted? Do you need shock absorption? How wide do they have to be? Also, do they have to be skate-specific? Some of the best shoes I’ve skated are deemed “classic” or “lifestyle” shoes, that weren’t initially designed for skateboarding. Dunk lows aren’t super bulky, and your feet will definitely appreciate the extra cushion/ support. OG Busenitz as someone mentioned earlier are also a great alternative, they offer similar support on a more narrow silhouette, the 3st 004 is great too. NB# 868 is another great pick.
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Don´t know if it counts as not chunky, but I m skating the NB 868 at the moment and I love it. Any recommendations what to skate when I retire them (don´t have to be NB)? In the pictures the Tiago ones look a bit too big for my taste... Dunks would be great but are too hard to get at the moment.
Dc legacy slim. Real decent shoe.
I really liked the 868. The AVE’s also have a firm feeling sole, the tyshawns have a firm feeling sole as well.
I should have gotten the 913s, but got on this AVE kick.....
I'm currently wearing Legacy slims right now. They're pretty good. The tongue being extra long is good on the front of my ankles and top of my foot.
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Just to update everybody, im on my 3rd pair of AVE's. havent loved a shoe this much in years. no foot pain what so ever. amazing flick, amazing durabilty (for vans), and most importantly my feet feel great. so happy on how these perform. its been a while since ive felt this way about a shoe.
Same same, I’m only skating AVE’s rn.
Thanks for your info earlier in thread.
Are these good OOTB or do you use aftermarket insoles?
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Adidas liberty cup aren't chunky but are a great cup sole.
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Get your hands on as many Reynolds g6's as you can (if you still can).
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~5+years of plantar fasciitis kind of pain here (+ fucked up ankles).
Appeared skating in stan smiths.
At one point I could barely keep standing for a few minutes. Terrible feeling, truly. Got depression from it.
Medical insoles never did anything. Surgery did nada.
Lately, it's better, I'm in blazer mids with gamechangers (or orthotics : same, just a tad squishier in the first minutes of wearing them).
Pretty good, really. Not perfect, but i'm coming back to this combo, repeatedly. Just a shame that it's Nike...
Oh! Dunks have their qualities as well, but out of reach atm anyway...
Otherwise, broken in suciu 1's with the og insole allow me to chill very comfortably at work, at home.
Also tried adidas top ten's (chunky by today's standards) with footprint insoles.
The good : started again to jump down things at close to 40!
The bad : is there a board somewhere under my feet???
Hope this might be of help to some of you.
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~5+years of plantar fasciitis kind of pain here (+ fucked up ankles).
Appeared skating in stan smiths.
At one point I could barely keep standing for a few minutes. Terrible feeling, truly. Got depression from it.
Medical insoles never did anything. Surgery did nada.
I was going to mention the opposite. Most shoes turn from good to great for me after putting in athletic insoles that correct my flat feet. My knees hurt way less and I am far less prone to ankle tweaks when they were very common in the past. A cup sole will give more cushion than a vulc by far, landing primo on vulcs is 10x worse than on a cupsole.
the DC kalis S, Tiago S (sure you can find a lot on sale) are both really good!
I'm not sold on the Kalis entirely because it only has 3 lace loops that prevent the shoe from getting as snug as I would like. The are comfortable with a decent flick but the lace design needs improvement.
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Get your hands on as many Reynolds g6's as you can (if you still can).
This. The Emerica Reynolds g6s are incredibly comfortable and supportive plus the stock insole is removable. Maybe the newer Emerica Gammas are similar? I haven't tried them yet but I'm sure a few people on here have.
Also if you can find any Nike SB Project BAs - those and the Prod 3s were maybe the best skate shoes I've ever had.
Good luck.
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Love the "get a shoe you can't find and you're set" advices in here.
Get Adidas Copa Nationale and you're set.
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Adidas Tyshawns all the way, stick a decent insole in them and you're golden.
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I have been skating OG Lynx for the past 2 month and coming back to etnies marana i appreciate the increased boardfeel but the upper feels so thin now. Accidentally slamming board on top of foot hurt too much
Any shoe that feels like the marana on the bottom, lynx on top?
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I have been skating OG Lynx for the past 2 month and coming back to etnies marana i appreciate the increased boardfeel but the upper feels so thin now. Accidentally slamming board on top of foot hurt too much
Any shoe that feels like the marana on the bottom, lynx on top?
Accel OG might be what you are looking for.
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The question comes down to what you mean by supportive, which part of your foot feels like it's not being supported by your current pair of shoes. Ankle? Arch? Achilles? My guess is that most shoes are designed for a neutral foot with slight variations between models. The best way to achieve significant improvements in support would be though insoles or an ankle brace, coupled with strength and conditioning of the problem areas.
Edit: Custom orthotic insoles are great for walking shoes but not ideal for skateboarding or sports since they are hard and do nothing to support the impact. A sports insole that corrects the arch position would offer a good mix of support and cushion needed for when landing primo.
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The vans wafflecup is good provided you have yhour own insoles.
Stiffer than regular vans bit not stiff stiff
kyle walker 1s are decent.
Busenits are good but have a high heel for me (or lower front)