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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: 256 Ply on May 21, 2020, 02:39:23 AM
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- Updated hanger and baseplate design (looks like they are going back to the old wavy baseplate design that goes thinner in the middle. Hanger still has the hole.
- Quicker turning geometry
- New pivot cup design for improved turning
- New Downlow Kingpin with 9/16 hex head (skate tool friendly) & allen key adjustable (looks like they using the same design as the upcoming Indy Mid). Doesn't look like it's hollow like the current DLK, and appears possibly higher (but still sits super low).
- New Shaft Nut baseplate insert for strength and rigidity (Grind King did this on the AXL (sleeve nut). Much better design prevents the kingpin from wiggling and creating play in your turns.
- Will still have traditional non-inverted kingpin models available
- Stronger SCM435 alloy steel axles
- Hollow axles are back in some models
- Embossed hanger size designations
- Same sizes: 7.6, 8.0, 8.25, 8.5, 9.0
No idea if the height has changed (currently 55mm on the standard height).
Not sure if they will still be making low trucks.
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Sick, can’t wait to not buy them.
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The only pair of Krux trucks I ever skated I got from winning a Thrasher trivia contest question they put on the website once a month at the time. They sent me one regular truck and one downlow. That’s how I’ll always remember them
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I'll buy a set probably I still have my old krux from 2002 or some shit and they honestly arent bad. They were the low ones so I was probably missing out on some pop but the reverse kingpin is cool in my opinion.
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Can’t wait to scroll past them on skate sites as well as the puppy and roses variants 8)
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I don’t even like watching people who have krux skate.
There are of course exceptions, but those trucks come with a host of less than legal tricks that the owner is compelled to do.
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I don’t even like watching people who have krux skate.
There are of course exceptions, but those trucks come with a host of less than legal tricks that the owner is compelled to do.
This!
That chick Arin on IG skates them and it baffles me. One of the first clips I saw was her kickflip front tail bigspin and my first thought was "damn that was good" second thought "on krux, wow"
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I fucking hate Krux. Krux is equal to dog shit with axles pushed into it.
My madness has a limit and kruxs is way the fuck over the section 8 line ked.
The round edge on the inside of the base plate is a good idea all trucks should do that. It makes me think about old Cell Block risers. The rounder edge may make it harder to snap your board.
Correct me if I'm wrong but if the king pin breaks isnt it going to be stuck in the baseplate's sleeve nut.
The gk truck I thought of this right away. If the base plate gets cross threaded what then?
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I don’t even like watching people who have krux skate.
There are of course exceptions, but those trucks come with a host of less than legal tricks that the owner is compelled to do.
Even steeze? https://www.instagram.com/chazortiz/?hl=en
- New pivot cup design for improved turning
Curious if they are making it shorter, the cups and cavity are currently so deep.
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The only pair of Krux trucks I ever skated I got from winning a Thrasher trivia contest question they put on the website once a month at the time. They sent me one regular truck and one downlow. That’s how I’ll always remember them
This happened to me except I got one low and one high.
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I'm not going to write off the redesign yet - and I bought a set of Krux, rode them for a day then gave them away.
Krux suck. Which gives them the ability to innovate without their current users bitching.
Indy, Ace, Thunder and Venture all have cult like followers and specific geometry. If any of them were to try to make this many changes in a new version there would be an uproar from the cultists.
Tensor sucked. They had the freedom to come out with the ATG truck - which I hear is quite good.
I will try them if they come out with a truck that actually turns and has an inverted kingpin. Although I'll wait to get the confirmation from others that they actually turn.
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Do the new trucks come in Louie‘s face colour way?
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I'm not going to write off the redesign yet - and I bought a set of Krux, rode them for a day then gave them away.
Krux suck. Which gives them the ability to innovate without their current users bitching.
Indy, Ace, Thunder and Venture all have cult like followers and specific geometry. If any of them were to try to make this many changes in a new version there would be an uproar from the cultists.
Tensor sucked. They had the freedom to come out with the ATG truck - which I hear is quite good.
I will try them if they come out with a truck that actually turns and has an inverted kingpin. Although I'll wait to get the confirmation from others that they actually turn.
Nail on the head.
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I'm not going to write off the redesign yet - and I bought a set of Krux, rode them for a day then gave them away.
Krux suck. Which gives them the ability to innovate without their current users bitching.
Indy, Ace, Thunder and Venture all have cult like followers and specific geometry. If any of them were to try to make this many changes in a new version there would be an uproar from the cultists.
Tensor sucked. They had the freedom to come out with the ATG truck - which I hear is quite good.
I will try them if they come out with a truck that actually turns and has an inverted kingpin. Although I'll wait to get the confirmation from others that they actually turn.
I never rode Krux by my friend swears by them. The basic standard ones. Plus Kevin Braun is sick and he had a Krux Truck model. Im done with truck madness.
Tensor ATG turn very nice. Replaced my forged hollow Indy 149 with the atg maglight 5.75 (55mm) and I dont think Ill sway from these trucks from now on. Fully sold on them.
I weighed them last night and the 5.75 (8.38") maglights weighs 272 grams. The forged hollow 149 is 356 grams. With easy streets 53mm v1 and bearings the tensor weighs 426g and the indy with the same easy streets weighs 509g. So two indys with wheels weigh 1018g and two tensors with same wheels weigh 854g. Thats a MAJOR difference (the feel is significant) plus they grind amazing. Takes a lil bit to get used to the superlight deck, but man it really seems to help with everything like pop and esp lifting up ollies till crouched if you know what I mean and of course shove it tricks and flips, pressure stuff. Its amazing how light they are.
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I'm not going to write off the redesign yet - and I bought a set of Krux, rode them for a day then gave them away.
Krux suck. Which gives them the ability to innovate without their current users bitching.
Indy, Ace, Thunder and Venture all have cult like followers and specific geometry. If any of them were to try to make this many changes in a new version there would be an uproar from the cultists.
Tensor sucked. They had the freedom to come out with the ATG truck - which I hear is quite good.
I will try them if they come out with a truck that actually turns and has an inverted kingpin. Although I'll wait to get the confirmation from others that they actually turn.
I never rode Krux by my friend swears by them. The basic standard ones. Plus Kevin Braun is sick and he had a Krux Truck model. Im done with truck madness.
Tensor ATG turn very nice. Replaced my forged hollow Indy 149 with the atg maglight 5.75 (55mm) and I dont think Ill sway from these trucks from now on. Fully sold on them.
I weighed them last night and the 5.75 (8.38") maglights weighs 272 grams. The forged hollow 149 is 356 grams. With easy streets 53mm v1 and bearings the tensor weighs 426g and the indy with the same easy streets weighs 509g. So two indys with wheels weigh 1018g and two tensors with same wheels weigh 854g. Thats a MAJOR difference (the feel is significant) plus they grind amazing. Takes a lil bit to get used to the superlight deck, but man it really seems to help with everything like pop and esp lifting up ollies till crouched if you know what I mean and of course shove it tricks and flips, pressure stuff. Its amazing how light they are.
I'm no professional numbers person but shouldn't the difference in weight be uniform?
Truck to truck you have a 84 gram difference
Truck/wheel/bearing to truck/wheel/bearing you have an 83 gram difference
And two trucks with wheel/bearing to two trucks wheel/bearing you have a 164 gram difference which comes out to 82 grams per
What if one truck weighs more than the other? Let your gear madness run wild now
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Let's be honest, the only person we can immediately name on the Krux team is Nora, and she doesn't even use the stock bushings.
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Let's be honest, the only person we can immediately name on the Krux team is Nora, and she doesn't even use the stock bushings.
Youre sleeping on Kevin Braun. Check his footage.
Yeah 83g per truck lighter w wheels, just reweighed. So 166 grams less. Thats pretty big.
The extra gram may have been washers or slight variation of a digi scale. scale only goes by gram increments.
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No thanks
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Let's be honest, the only person we can immediately name on the Krux team is Nora, and she doesn't even use the stock bushings.
silas
ryan lay
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No thanks
OK, lil unnecessary but hes very impressive so he and Ryan Lay are two that I can think of aside from nora.
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- New Shaft Nut baseplate insert for strength and rigidity (Grind King did this on the AXL (sleeve nut). Much better design prevents the kingpin from wiggling and creating play in your turns.
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As an inverted kingpin man myself, this piques my interest... if they sell the sleeve nut with the kingpin in an aftermarket kit, that would be sick.
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Let's be honest, the only person we can immediately name on the Krux team is Nora, and she doesn't even use the stock bushings.
silas
ryan lay
Silas is on thunder now.
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Let's be honest, the only person we can immediately name on the Krux team is Nora, and she doesn't even use the stock bushings.
silas
ryan lay
Ortiz
Cario (and 99.9% of the Enjoi team, that should tell you something)
Santiago
Merlino
Sandoval
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krux actually turn well, yall are just too biased by their shitty marketing and the stupid hole
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krux actually turn well, yall are just too biased by their shitty marketing and the stupid hole
I don't think most people ride trucks loose enough for them to actually be able to determine if they fucking turn at all.
Like those people putting rock hard bushings in indys and saying they don't turn...wtf did you think would happen? Of course they don't ride 'loose' at all but tight as fuck as it is (people get wheelbite just stepping onto my board).
Truth be told, their marketing fucking sucks (hotdog trucks? Do you even want to sell into shops?); the hole doesn't bother me but I'm sure those same prigs who don't like the Theeve baseplate also don't like the krux hole ::)
The stock bushings are still some of the best stocks you can get, tho I feel that the ACE Dual Duros are the BEST you can put in a barrel bottom-designed standard kingpin truck (indy/Venture/ACE/Krux/etc.)
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i liked when krux was basically the tiltmode team plus some other solid skaters i.e. silas, tommy sandoval.
they still have great team for the most part.
but krux is bumming me out lately, i think when ron whaley left and alex white took over things got worse.
they are marketing towards the youtube/revive generation with manny, johnny giger, garret ginner etc.
can we just get a tilt mode truck brand?
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krux actually turn well, yall are just too biased by their shitty marketing and the stupid hole
K4s didn't turn for shit. You get used to that, but fuck me when i switched from Indys to them it was hell
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OK, lil unnecessary but hes very impressive so he and Ryan Lay are two that I can think of aside from nora.
Was saying that about the trucks; I don’t mind Kevin Brauns skating.
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krux actually turn well, yall are just too biased by their shitty marketing and the stupid hole
My problem with krux is although they have a really responsive turn they don’t carve deep enough. I had a pair of forged 8.25s about 2 years ago and I could barely get wheelbite with them because they just don’t go that deep. I rode the pair for a few months but then just caved in and got some indy’s that can never go wrong.
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also associated krux with enjoi which really made me want a pair when I was a kid, however they looked like they'd suck in person so I stuck with the pair of ventures I got after trying silver which were terrible. always was tempted by the downlow kingpin though.
learned my lesson after starting out with silvers, just buy the good stuff. not gonna lie though, watching louie barletta footage made me want a pair recently even though I know for a fact I wont get along with them.
I remember they were the wave for those insta-dudes who skated friendship boards back in 2016, wasn't a fan.
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krux actually turn well, yall are just too biased by their shitty marketing and the stupid hole
My problem with krux is although they have a really responsive turn they don’t carve deep enough. I had a pair of forged 8.25s about 2 years ago and I could barely get wheelbite with them because they just don’t go that deep. I rode the pair for a few months but then just caved in and got some indy’s that can never go wrong.
Most people don't feel these are mutually exclusive tho, that's the problem.
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krux actually turn well, yall are just too biased by their shitty marketing and the stupid hole
My problem with krux is although they have a really responsive turn they don’t carve deep enough. I had a pair of forged 8.25s about 2 years ago and I could barely get wheelbite with them because they just don’t go that deep. I rode the pair for a few months but then just caved in and got some indy’s that can never go wrong.
Most people don't feel these are mutually exclusive tho, that's the problem.
Hence Ace.
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Let's be honest, the only person we can immediately name on the Krux team is Nora, and she doesn't even use the stock bushings.
silas
ryan lay
Ortiz
Cario (and 99.9% of the Enjoi team, that should tell you something)
Santiago
Merlino
Sandoval
Colt Cannon
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Maybe just spray paint a black oval on your Indys
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What the name of that type of base plate that cups the bottom bushings with out a bottom washer. Thunders used to be like that same with gullwings.
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What the name of that type of base plate that cups the bottom bushings with out a bottom washer. Thunders used to be like that same with gullwings.
Shit, there's a name for it? ML does it too...
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What the name of that type of base plate that cups the bottom bushings with out a bottom washer. Thunders used to be like that same with gullwings.
Shit, there's a name for it? ML does it too...
There definitely has to be a name for the style or it would never get made.
I would call it a baseplates a Jimmy hat. IDK it's probably called no hang up Base plate. The GK site point out the point of the rounded baseplates.
Those old thunder plates were sick. They were gothic looking. Or neo tribalish.
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Do the new trucks come in Louie‘s face colour way?
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/437/748/bfd.jpg)
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Do the new trucks come in Louie‘s face colour way?
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/437/748/bfd.jpg)
LMAO
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If they can make the downlows like they were before the redesign(current design since like 2009 or whatever)
I’m so down for a set, I use to ride them religiously back in the early 2000’s and loved them, never hesitated to try any grind tricks cause of the kingpin
Tried thunders and switched over, saw they had the current design come out and got a set, they sucked ass
They went from being hated on cause they were too tight(which I liked) to too loose and not in the good way, too loose like they hang and lean in a lot but don’t turn
The truck design/shape from the Louie diamond or wood design days were great cause yes they were tight but once you broke them in they were like the ace of today, the bushings are stiff but break in
I had the coolest set they ever sold, the laser design
Looked like a holographic Pokémon card but as a truck
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I don’t even like watching people who have krux skate.
Colt Cannon and his pink hangers get a pass though.
Tommy Sandoval as well.
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I don’t even like watching people who have krux skate.
Colt Cannon and his pink hangers get a pass though.
Tommy Sandoval as well.
There’s plenty, and I was going to include caveats, but....hyperbole:
Arin (Arrbee mentioned) and it’s very true.
Silas.
Sandoval.
Cairo.
Lay.
Tilt mode era was cool (not because of the trucks).
I’m sure there’s more. I had some when Mayhew was on Maple, to really date myself.
Whomever pointed out that they became the go to for the folks doing horrible tricks on ig 2016 ish: that’s exactly how i see them. As soon as I see the krux, I start getting ready to avert my eyes, as someone is about to heelflip body varial into a chain of 5 no-comply variations, filmed at a skatepark.
They have some cool ideas/innovations (baseplate shape, kingpin, maybe both were around but they implemented). I’ve always looked for ‘not an Indy’, just some alternative, and I’m not sure completely why. Obviously some of the Indy stuff is very sus. Krux chose to go toy as fuck and I can’t unsee it. Krux was the price point made in China brand, I’d rather not buy some from China (I buy lots of stuff from China. Just less is all).
They fake turn (lean no turn). Look horrible. Unnecessarily tall. No good heritage (less bad heritage too I guess). Kooks love em.
I look at trucks too much.
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Still with that damn hole?
Yuck
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Rob Whaley
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The hole is the best part dude
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Im pretty sure anyone could get used to krux after a few days. You guys are really disdainful to certain brands.
Also the turn and the carve feel is kinda diff from person to person due to choice of leg and weight distribution but the max is always wheelbite obviously.
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love the hole, love the height, wish i could dig into a tight turn
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I think the hole changed size actually. I believe it's too small to open beers now
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I woul have bought a set if the new campaign was.... 'New bigger HOLE!'
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Honestly, I hope they do a serious re-vamp, would be nice to have more options? For the Madness?
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Do the new trucks come in Louie‘s face colour way?
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51qs1FaTfrL._SL1340_.jpg)
hopefully like this
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Do the new trucks come in Louie‘s face colour way?
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51qs1FaTfrL._SL1340_.jpg)
hopefully like this
Krux ads use to be dope!
I got ninja turtle krux for Christmas last year, cause I’m a TMNT fan. Took them back to Zumiez and got some gift cards.
I like that new Krux TM is basically throwing giving anyone with potential a shot right now.
Tensor is had redesign that seems successful., destructo came back, and Indy is having a big overhaul with the mid, so this is probably the best time to make a change.
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Now with a bigger hole would lead to an interesting add campaign....
How long until they charge $150 to design your own custom truck....
What is the history of Krux anyhow....how about a Krux coffee table book?
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Make the hole big enough to stick my peepee in and I'll buy
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Make the hole big enough to stick my peepee in and I'll buy
They should make an adults-only model with one of those fleshlight things. That would really make for some next-level post-trick celebrations.
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Make the hole big enough to stick my peepee in and I'll buy
They should make an adults-only model with one of those fleshlight things. That would really make for some next-level post-trick celebrations.
Damn Tenga should get into the bushing game...
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Make the hole big enough to stick my peepee in and I'll buy
They should make an adults-only model with one of those fleshlight things. That would really make for some next-level post-trick celebrations.
Damn Tenga should get into the bushing game...
Tenga x Indy. Just a barrel bottom in the classic Indy bushing orange.
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Make the hole big enough to stick my peepee in and I'll buy
They should make an adults-only model with one of those fleshlight things. That would really make for some next-level post-trick celebrations.
Damn Tenga should get into the bushing game...
Tenga x Indy. Just a barrel bottom in the classic Indy bushing orange.
Had to look up what that was and saw that they are having a Memorial Day sale. Seems like an odd way of paying tribute to our fallen heroes.
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Make the hole big enough to stick my peepee in and I'll buy
They should make an adults-only model with one of those fleshlight things. That would really make for some next-level post-trick celebrations.
Damn Tenga should get into the bushing game...
Tenga x Indy. Just a barrel bottom in the classic Indy bushing orange.
Had to look up what that was and saw that they are having a Memorial Day sale. Seems like an odd way of paying tribute to our fallen heroes.
ill take a tenga over a pressure flip any day of the week
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The only pair of Krux trucks I ever skated I got from winning a Thrasher trivia contest question they put on the website once a month at the time. They sent me one regular truck and one downlow. That’s how I’ll always remember them
Same shit happened to my buddy back in the day from a SPoT contest. They were they diamond ones.
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Let's be honest, the only person we can immediately name on the Krux team is Nora, and she doesn't even use the stock bushings.
Nestor and Fuenzalida
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Let's be honest, the only person we can immediately name on the Krux team is Nora, and she doesn't even use the stock bushings.
Nestor and Fuenzalida
Cairo.
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Ron Whaley is the Dill of trucks....
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I remember someone telling me that the hole on krux is meant to be a bottle opener. Dont know if this true
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I remember someone telling me that the hole on krux is meant to be a bottle opener. Dont know if this true
Weight reduction
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the krux hole used to be able to open bottles but they allegedly made the hole smaller so now you can't. again, never owned them so I can't confirm myself but I swear I remember reading that in some interview.
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The old Krux models had a more rectangular hole, i defenetley remember some kind of marketing gimmick in some ad, where they mentioned it being able to open bottles.
I owned some downlows when i was maybe 13 years old, and used the hole to open bottles, i don't think i would be able to figure it out by myself.
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use your deck to open bottles like a man
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remember when Cab was on Krux?
The Krux 2 doesn't look bad
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lfBqNAxp9vk/WXYpD_gl07I/AAAAAAAAeyY/LGkW6FZq_J0Im_603A3PLEVi_KQDbVO7gCEwYBhgL/s1600/cab12stepprogramchrome.jpg)
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remember when Cab was on Krux?
The Krux 2 doesn't look bad
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lfBqNAxp9vk/WXYpD_gl07I/AAAAAAAAeyY/LGkW6FZq_J0Im_603A3PLEVi_KQDbVO7gCEwYBhgL/s1600/cab12stepprogramchrome.jpg)
one of the first ads I ever saw in a skate mag. watching him skate vert in real life is pretty amazing.
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Cab was also on standard truck co.
He definitely hit some long, mellow rails. I wonder how old he was for that phase?
The krux I had in ....1998 ish were quality. I think I moved on because I didn’t like the way they looked/vibe. I wasn’t really trying to turn a bunch at that point, was either going 2 mph trying to do 80 nollie flips in a row (savage bicycle pedal flick) or at other times I had setups with 60mm wheels trying to look like Ricky.
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Literally all Krux has to do is steal Ace's newer bushing design and they'd have a great truck. The larger top and way softer durometer basically turn them into a high Ace with a slightly longer wheelbase. I'm dead serious. Personally I'd like to see them lighter and lower, but I doubt that's what they did.
I do have a feeling they will do lows, based off insta comments, I'll probably try those (with ace bushings of course). I really hope they don't make them twitchy to appease the people who say they don't turn.
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Wondering what it means for parts enthusiast. .
If u want Krux that turn alot just get the DLK, felt like I had a Daewon board at first. I like my trucks in the middle not too low or too high, basically that Indy standard which has always worked well for me
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The only pair of Krux trucks I ever skated I got from winning a Thrasher trivia contest question they put on the website once a month at the time. They sent me one regular truck and one downlow. That’s how I’ll always remember them
This happened to me except I paid for them
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Their current trucks aren't worth riding, and their whole brand sucks horse, but I'm staying optimistic for things to come. If they have the resources available to re-design a truck, they might be able to make something good.
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Sick, can’t wait to not buy them.
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remember when Cab was on Krux?
The Krux 2 doesn't look bad
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lfBqNAxp9vk/WXYpD_gl07I/AAAAAAAAeyY/LGkW6FZq_J0Im_603A3PLEVi_KQDbVO7gCEwYBhgL/s1600/cab12stepprogramchrome.jpg)
one of the first ads I ever saw in a skate mag. watching him skate vert in real life is pretty amazing.
Think that’s sick? Try watching him skate a bowl in a Chewbacca outfit. That shit was wild
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Their current trucks aren't worth riding, and their whole brand sucks horse, but I'm staying optimistic for things to come. If they have the resources available to re-design a truck, they might be able to make something good.
It's crazy how they think the Krux branding is good? I'm going to have to say tho that they keep doing it so I guess works 'good enough'? Sales must be ok? Kittens? Hot Dogs? Jellybeans? Who buys that shit?
With a new truck, they've got a chance to re-do the image as well...
I can see the pro team "just silver/raw in my box thanks...."
It's funny because they really are the Enjoi of trucks....and vice versa....it's no wonder most of the team rides Krux.
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The hole is the best part dude
Great bottle opener in a pinch. I think I bought a pair for this feature specifically.
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My business partner was setting up a new board and wanted to go big (Gonz Sweatpants). He wanted surfy so I told him to get ACE. I stopped by the shop and they had ace in stock. The next day he shows up to buy them and the employee sold him 9” Krux. I then proceeded to tell him that Krux don’t turn and he won’t like them, and that I gave mine away after skating them for 20 minutes. He returned to the shop to exchange them for ace and same employee told him I was full of shit and Krux are great. He skated them once and called to tell me that sadly, I was right and they are fucking horrible.
He normally skates mini logo 8.38, which actually turn.
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Let's be honest, the only person we can immediately name on the Krux team is Nora, and she doesn't even use the stock bushings.
Nestor and Fuenzalida
Caswell kills it on his hotdog trucks
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My business partner was setting up a new board and wanted to go big (Gonz Sweatpants). He wanted surfy so I told him to get ACE. I stopped by the shop and they had ace in stock. The next day he shows up to buy them and the employee sold him 9” Krux. I then proceeded to tell him that Krux don’t turn and he won’t like them, and that I gave mine away after skating them for 20 minutes. He returned to the shop to exchange them for ace and same employee told him I was full of shit and Krux are great. He skated them once and called to tell me that sadly, I was right and they are fucking horrible.
He normally skates mini logo 8.38, which actually turn.
Having a set of 8.38ML in rotation, I can safely saying they are light years away/ahead of Krux...and the only truck you can get at Venture low heights over 8.25"
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My business partner was setting up a new board and wanted to go big (Gonz Sweatpants). He wanted surfy so I told him to get ACE. I stopped by the shop and they had ace in stock. The next day he shows up to buy them and the employee sold him 9” Krux. I then proceeded to tell him that Krux don’t turn and he won’t like them, and that I gave mine away after skating them for 20 minutes. He returned to the shop to exchange them for ace and same employee told him I was full of shit and Krux are great. He skated them once and called to tell me that sadly, I was right and they are fucking horrible.
He normally skates mini logo 8.38, which actually turn.
Having a set of 8.38ML in rotation, I can safely saying they are light years away/ahead of Krux...and the only truck you can get at Venture low heights over 8.25"
Not at all. The mini logos are awesome only because they are so low. The turn is twitchy as hell (I understand it probably has to be), the pivot cups are trash and the kingpin will eventually snap. Only quality control problem Krux has is the pivot cups, which ain't as bad as people make it out to be. The other problem is everyone hates the turn/feel, but as I've mentioned a million times this can be remedied into a gloriously surfy turn. Height is just a preference.
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If I wasn’t totally satisfied with ML trucks, I would def get a pair of Krux to try out before any others. I loved them back when I was in highscool 2005ish but I also skated my trucks waaaay tighter than I do now so idk maybe I wouldn’t like them but idk.
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idk why folks keep saying they don't turn??? 9" K4's with 1/8" risers, khiros black barrel bottom with krux stock top bushings, and 56mm bones SPF has been one of the absolute best pool/park setups I have EVER ridden. And that's counting any other truck with stock bushings or khiros swapped in. Sharp backside carves on an 8 foot wall in only about 4 foot width/radius???
Krux are fam
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Now with a bigger hole would lead to an interesting add campaign....
How long until they charge $150 to design your own custom truck....
What is the history of Krux anyhow....how about a Krux coffee table book?
If truck company’s sold king pins base plates and hangers separate I wouldn’t be to upset. I mean the price shouldn’t be $150 but comparable like a sliding scale from standard to the higher end ti price. I just wanna be able to get like raw ti hanger cast baseplate etc. like completely custom truck to what you want with out buying 2 different trucks
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idk why folks keep saying they don't turn??? 9" K4's with 1/8" risers, khiros black barrel bottom with krux stock top bushings, and 56mm bones SPF has been one of the absolute best pool/park setups I have EVER ridden. And that's counting any other truck with stock bushings or khiros swapped in. Sharp backside carves on an 8 foot wall in only about 4 foot width/radius???
Krux are fam
Why bother to do all that when you can just buy Indy or Ace and they are pretty much good to go right from the start? That argument is pretty dumb when you have to change pretty much whole truck to make them work like other trucks.
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idk why folks keep saying they don't turn??? 9" K4's with 1/8" risers, khiros black barrel bottom with krux stock top bushings, and 56mm bones SPF has been one of the absolute best pool/park setups I have EVER ridden. And that's counting any other truck with stock bushings or khiros swapped in. Sharp backside carves on an 8 foot wall in only about 4 foot width/radius???
Krux are fam
It's not that they literally don't turn, like old Tensors. It's just that they don't turn all that well. To me it feels like the hanger just sort of, tilts. I removed all the washers and cut away some material from the bushings to loosen them up and they were nice after that. But stock left a bad taste in my mouth. I'll try out these new ones though.
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Anyone just throw RipTides on these? Sounds like they may need that extra from that get go.
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idk why folks keep saying they don't turn??? 9" K4's with 1/8" risers, khiros black barrel bottom with krux stock top bushings, and 56mm bones SPF has been one of the absolute best pool/park setups I have EVER ridden. And that's counting any other truck with stock bushings or khiros swapped in. Sharp backside carves on an 8 foot wall in only about 4 foot width/radius???
Krux are fam
Why bother to do all that when you can just buy Indy or Ace and they are pretty much good to go right from the start? That argument is pretty dumb when you have to change pretty much whole truck to make them work like other trucks.
indy and ace stock both suck for me since im fat as shit, I still have to swap bushings on those. I have a graveyard of blown out indy bushings from before I realized I needed harder ones.
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I don’t even like watching people who have krux skate.
There are of course exceptions, but those trucks come with a host of less than legal tricks that the owner is compelled to do.
i hope that louie barletta and eric fletcher make that list of exceptions
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https://www.skatewarehouse.com/Krux_K5_Standard_Truck/descpage-KX5SPTR.html
Most images, even at the Krux site, aren't showing the inverted pin.
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I have too many trucks on ice.
I’ll wait For the inverted kingpins.
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What kind of wheelbase do they make when you put them on? I really love the short wheelbase of indys but I always wonder if krux is also like that or if they are more like thunder/ venture in that department
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What kind of wheelbase do they make when you put them on? I really love the short wheelbase of indys but I always wonder if krux is also like that or if they are more like thunder/ venture in that department
Krux are closer to an indy wheelbase than thunders.
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can we just get a tilt mode truck brand?
Tiltmode will forever be my favorite thing in skating. But let it die my friend.
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What kind of wheelbase do they make when you put them on? I really love the short wheelbase of indys but I always wonder if krux is also like that or if they are more like thunder/ venture in that department
Krux are closer to an indy wheelbase than thunders.
What about Krux compared to Ventures wheelbase wise? I know Ventures make the wheelbase somewhere between indys and thunders. I tried Ventures again recently and hated them, had to switch back to Indy. Also I skate a 9.0 and when you get up there in size and you skate street longer wheelbase can be detrimental (a lot of ghost pop)
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wheelbase relative to trucks
Ace +2.75"
Krux k4 +2.875"
Minilogo +2.875"
Indy cast +3.0"
Indy forged +3.125"
Thunder cast +3.125"
Tensor Alloy +3.125"
krux K5 ~+3.125-3.25" by looking at pics
Thunder Forged +3.18"
Venture cast +3.25"
Venture Forged +3.4-3.5"
This is going by memory but they should be fairly accurate. Please comment with corrections if i am off and ill change them up.
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wheelbase relative to trucks
Ace +2.75"
Krux k4 +2.875"
Minilogo +2.875"
Indy cast +3.0"
Indy forged +3.125"
Thunder cast +3.125"
Tensor Alloy +3.125"
krux K5 ~+3.125-3.25" by looking at pics
Thunder Forged +3.18"
Venture cast +3.25"
Venture Forged +3.4-3.5"
This is going by memory but they should be fairly accurate. Please comment with corrections if i am off and ill change them up.
Yo this list is valid, you should make a thread dedicated to this with this info, people would like this. It’s super helpful to me for sure
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yall new here or something?
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wheelbase relative to trucks
Ace +2.75"
Krux k4 +2.875"
Minilogo +2.875"
Indy cast +3.0"
Indy forged +3.125"
Thunder cast +3.125"
Tensor Alloy +3.125"
krux K5 ~+3.125-3.25" by looking at pics
Thunder Forged +3.18"
Venture cast +3.25"
Venture Forged +3.4-3.5"
This is going by memory but they should be fairly accurate. Please comment with corrections if i am off and ill change them up.
Are you referring to the skate warehouse picture? I noticed that too, but I don't think you can really judge from a photo like that.
Finally found my grail last year with K4's and ace classic bushings and I'm personally kinda bummed about the switch. I have a feeling the new one's are gonna be twitchy which is the only way you can make those hard ass bushings turn better. I hope people like 'em, but dammit.
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Anyone try these yet? Thoughts?
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Anyone try these yet? Thoughts?
I would have picked a pair up but I’m between 8.25 or 8.5 and 9 inch boards
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Upcoming collab with Curima x Berrics
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Ruckus trucks.
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I think I entered to win krux k5. If I score them I'll give them a serious try.
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SCM435 axles....according to my research these are weaker than a 4140 chromoly.
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got a pair of 8.5 k5 and tried them out today. left them stock and loosened nut till flush. they most def turn really well right out the gate and have a great pop feel. cant vouch for durability yet but they are noticeably lighter than indy 149 standards
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got a pair of 8.5 k5 and tried them out today. left them stock and loosened nut till flush. they most def turn really well right out the gate and have a great pop feel. cant vouch for durability yet but they are noticeably lighter than indy 149 standards
How do they turn compared to Indy’s? The old Krux seemed to have a substantial delay between when you shift your weight to turn, and the actual turn happening whereas Indy turn pretty much immediately on the weight shift.
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got a pair of 8.5 k5 and tried them out today. left them stock and loosened nut till flush. they most def turn really well right out the gate and have a great pop feel. cant vouch for durability yet but they are noticeably lighter than indy 149 standards
How do they turn compared to Indy’s? The old Krux seemed to have a substantial delay between when you shift your weight to turn, and the actual turn happening whereas Indy turn pretty much immediately on the weight shift.
way more responsive than the k4, doesnt feel as deep of a carve as indy but that may be because the bushings aren't broken in and it was kinda cold, seems like they made the pivot thinner on the k5 so it turns a lot snappier
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got a pair of 8.5 k5 and tried them out today. left them stock and loosened nut till flush. they most def turn really well right out the gate and have a great pop feel. cant vouch for durability yet but they are noticeably lighter than indy 149 standards
How do they turn compared to Indy’s? The old Krux seemed to have a substantial delay between when you shift your weight to turn, and the actual turn happening whereas Indy turn pretty much immediately on the weight shift.
way more responsive than the k4, doesnt feel as deep of a carve as indy but that may be because the bushings aren't broken in and it was kinda cold, seems like they made the pivot thinner on the k5 so it turns a lot snappier
Nice! I was hoping you would say that. I played around with my old K4’s and it seems like the slow turn came from the base plate geometry, specifically the nub that houses the kingpin. It’s lower than the other big truck brands which seems to make the hangar go more straight down into the deck, whereas higher baseplate nub seems to angle the kingpin and hangar so the hanger arcs more. When I put Indy baseplates on K4 hangars, the turning was fine, so the baseplate seemed like the most logical culprit to me.
I tried the suggestion of keeping the original parts and using Ace bushings but that didn’t change the turn at all for me.
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got a pair of 8.5 k5 and tried them out today. left them stock and loosened nut till flush. they most def turn really well right out the gate and have a great pop feel. cant vouch for durability yet but they are noticeably lighter than indy 149 standards
How do they turn compared to Indy’s? The old Krux seemed to have a substantial delay between when you shift your weight to turn, and the actual turn happening whereas Indy turn pretty much immediately on the weight shift.
way more responsive than the k4, doesnt feel as deep of a carve as indy but that may be because the bushings aren't broken in and it was kinda cold, seems like they made the pivot thinner on the k5 so it turns a lot snappier
Nice! I was hoping you would say that. I played around with my old K4’s and it seems like the slow turn came from the base plate geometry, specifically the nub that houses the kingpin. It’s lower than the other big truck brands which seems to make the hangar go more straight down into the deck, whereas higher baseplate nub seems to angle the kingpin and hangar so the hanger arcs more. When I put Indy baseplates on K4 hangars, the turning was fine, so the baseplate seemed like the most logical culprit to me.
I tried the suggestion of keeping the original parts and using Ace bushings but that didn’t change the turn at all for me.
Brand new Ace bushings? Give 'em a bit of time, it'll be worth it, I think.
I have a set with brand new ace bushings and the kingpin nut is barely on and they are still too tight and they felt god-awful at first (zero snap back to center) and are still taking a bit. My set with broken-in ace bushings are like a whole turn or two tighter than flush and they are pretty loose and feel glorious. I swear to god they turn just about as good as my actual Ace trucks it's just harder right before you wheel bite. I dunno maybe I'm crazy or maybe the mix is different or something.
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got a pair of 8.5 k5 and tried them out today. left them stock and loosened nut till flush. they most def turn really well right out the gate and have a great pop feel. cant vouch for durability yet but they are noticeably lighter than indy 149 standards
How do they turn compared to Indy’s? The old Krux seemed to have a substantial delay between when you shift your weight to turn, and the actual turn happening whereas Indy turn pretty much immediately on the weight shift.
way more responsive than the k4, doesnt feel as deep of a carve as indy but that may be because the bushings aren't broken in and it was kinda cold, seems like they made the pivot thinner on the k5 so it turns a lot snappier
Nice! I was hoping you would say that. I played around with my old K4’s and it seems like the slow turn came from the base plate geometry, specifically the nub that houses the kingpin. It’s lower than the other big truck brands which seems to make the hangar go more straight down into the deck, whereas higher baseplate nub seems to angle the kingpin and hangar so the hanger arcs more. When I put Indy baseplates on K4 hangars, the turning was fine, so the baseplate seemed like the most logical culprit to me.
I tried the suggestion of keeping the original parts and using Ace bushings but that didn’t change the turn at all for me.
Brand new Ace bushings? Give 'em a bit of time, it'll be worth it, I think.
I have a set with brand new ace bushings and the kingpin nut is barely on and they are still too tight and they felt god-awful at first (zero snap back to center) and are still taking a bit. My set with broken-in ace bushings are like a whole turn or two tighter than flush and they are pretty loose and feel glorious. I swear to god they turn just about as good as my actual Ace trucks it's just harder right before you wheel bite. I dunno maybe I'm crazy or maybe the mix is different or something.
I used some old ones from a two year old set of 44’s! I think my problem is less with the resistance it takes for the wheel to hit the deck and more with the arc that it travels as it hits the deck, if that makes any sense. Willing to tinker some more and try again though, might be some other factor I’m missing
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Is the wheelbase the same length as the K4s? I believe those extend the wheelbase by 2.65"?
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Is the wheelbase the same length as the K4s? I believe those extend the wheelbase by 2.65"?
i got 3 inches even when i measured with a tape measure. 14.25 wb deck to 17.25 center axle to center axle
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Is the wheelbase the same length as the K4s? I believe those extend the wheelbase by 2.65"?
i got 3 inches even when i measured with a tape measure. 14.25 wb deck to 17.25 center axle to center axle
K4's seem to average around 2.875". I do have a set of 8.5 K4's that are basically 3".
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Tommy Sandoval skates 7.6 Krux on an 8.125 board. He lost his damn mind.
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The more vertical the kingpin the more lean delay you get.
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The more vertical the kingpin the more lean delay you get.
I was wondering about that. Does the lower kingpin sheath (or whatever it’s called) on the baseplate have anything to do with the angle of the kingpin?
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Is the wheelbase the same length as the K4s? I believe those extend the wheelbase by 2.65"?
i got 3 inches even when i measured with a tape measure. 14.25 wb deck to 17.25 center axle to center axle
K4's seem to average around 2.875". I do have a set of 8.5 K4's that are basically 3".
Oh sick to hear it's closer to 3". Thanks y'all
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Ben weighs in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCrIyCSH4Ms
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Yeah. I got 5 brands of trucks already, crazy as it is. nothing drawing me to krux
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Is the wheelbase the same length as the K4s? I believe those extend the wheelbase by 2.65"?
i got 3 inches even when i measured with a tape measure. 14.25 wb deck to 17.25 center axle to center axle
K4's seem to average around 2.875". I do have a set of 8.5 K4's that are basically 3".
Oh sick to hear it's closer to 3". Thanks y'all
I got like 2.625 on some Nora K4
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Ben weighs in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCrIyCSH4Ms
He didn't really say all that much in this one.
I'd like to try them but I have everything I need in venture and thunder
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Ben weighs in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCrIyCSH4Ms
He didn't really say all that much in this one.
I'd like to try them but I have everything I need in venture and thunder
Do you have a built in bottle-opener? Didn't think so, bucko!!
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Ben DeGros has had enough of your soyboi bullshit.
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Ben weighs in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCrIyCSH4Ms
He didn't really say all that much in this one.
I'd like to try them but I have everything I need in venture and thunder
Tbh he said enough for me. Like the old Krux K4 but slightly lower, turns a little better, and wheelbase closer to Indy. That's all I care to head tbh. Gonna stick with what I have.
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They are kinda price point at $20 per truck so that could convince somebody to try.
And I think Ben is tired of trying out trucks. He was much more detailed in his Destructo review but not this one.
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He didn't really say all that much in this one.
I'd like to try them but I have everything I need in venture and thunder
Tbh he said enough for me. Like the old Krux K4 but slightly lower, turns a little better, and wheelbase closer to Indy. That's all I care to head tbh. Gonna stick with what I have.
I think it said a lot when he mentioned he had been sitting on them since July. You don't sit six months on a review for a product you actually like/recommend.
I'll pass.
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The more vertical the kingpin the more lean delay you get.
I was wondering about that. Does the lower kingpin sheath (or whatever it’s called) on the baseplate have anything to do with the angle of the kingpin?
Yeah it's definitely the baseplate I assume in the k4-5 change
Id bet the hanger has had min or no adjustment besides the axles being a different steel.
I think Ben has a review up.
I noticed ace has a pretty vertical kingpin but is pushed way back so I could be wrong?
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The more vertical the kingpin the more lean delay you get.
I was wondering about that. Does the lower kingpin sheath (or whatever it’s called) on the baseplate have anything to do with the angle of the kingpin?
Yeah it's definitely the baseplate I assume in the k4-5 change
Id bet the hanger has had min or no adjustment besides the axles being a different steel.
I think Ben has a review up.
I noticed ace has a pretty vertical kingpin but is pushed way back so I could be wrong?
I ordered a pair that should arrive Thursday so I’ll take some side by side pics of the K4 and K5 baseplates so we can compare and see what changed. I’m strangely curious about this haha
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https://youtu.be/GCrIyCSH4Ms
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https://youtu.be/GCrIyCSH4Ms
posted half a page above
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I feel like Ben got a free set and was trying not to say anything mean about them.
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I feel like Ben got a free set and was trying not to say anything mean about them.
Pretty much.
I liked the K4 downlows as something different (before everyone jumped back on the inverted bandwagon). 52mm high, all hollow everything, forged baseplate. These new Krux are just kinda boring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFN1mNHixUY
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I feel like Ben got a free set and was trying not to say anything mean about them.
Same vibe - they don't suck, but you're better off sticking to other brands.
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I got a set of the K5’s and skated them today. I threw some bones soft bushings in and greased the pivot cups because I didn’t want to wait until they break in to get a sense of if the new geometry turns better or not.
First impressions:
They do turn waaaay better than the K4. These still have a slight delay in turn when compared to Ace/Indy/Thunder, but are closer to Ventures turn imo, or maybe like if Thunder had a couple beers and it’s reaction time was slightly impaired, but still much improved from the comatose reaction time of the K4.
I generally prefer super responsive turns, so I would not ride the K5 tightened at all (I tried and hated it), but unexpectedly I found that I love them when they are wobbly loose. For some reason, wobbly loose the K5 turn nice enough to give a surfy feel, but are still stable enough on center to do flip tricks and to trust my ollies in traffic. When I ride Aces or Indy’s wobbly loose I love the feel but cannot trust the stability enough to do any tricks at speed. So the K5’s are actually a great wobbly loose truck.
The grind feels great. The metal feels like Thunders to me. I can’t tell if it’s because the metal is similar hardness, or because the grinding surface is smaller, but the grind is smooth.
Pop-wise, I set them up on a medium steep Baker (bbs) deck and they match it very well. They are significantly taller than the Thunder 147’s I had on it previously and the wb is similar I think (I measured these at +3.1) so they pop in a way I like but also feel nice for manuals. Actually, in this aspect they kind of remind me of Tensor mag lites (the tall ones).
Weight wise, they feel very light. I haven’t weighed them but they feel much lighter than Indy standards or Aces. Maybe closer to Thunder hollows but I might be full of shit trying to get that precise with it.
Anyway, to sum, they grind nice, turn well enough and when loosened to wobbly level, have all the nice characteristics of wobbly trucks but are still stable enough to do stuff on.
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I picked up a pair that I have on ice. I also got a pair of Ace bushings in case the Krux ones don’t do it.
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I skate my Aces wobbly too and have the instability problem. This makes me interested....
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I skate my Aces wobbly too and have the instability problem. This makes me interested....
@GumOnMyGrip today is my second day skating them and it looks like I’m still having the same experience of them being more stable on center than Ace/Indy/Thunder on center while wobbly loose. I’m not sure why this is, but it’s great so far. Turn feels really good now too
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What did you do to get em wobbly? Just take out the washers? Different/shorter bushings?
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What did you do to get em wobbly? Just take out the washers? Different/shorter bushings?
I switched out to bones softs but kept the standard bottom washer and the bones flat top washer. I think the bones bottom without the standard washer would be too short and mess up the geometry so I kept it. Even with both washers, there was plenty of kingpin (standard kingpins, not the inverted kingpins Krux have sometimes) left so I was able to get them wobbly without going past flush with the nut. I didn’t check but the bones top might be smaller than the Krux standard top so that could be where the extra room comes from
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Right on. Winter has my gear madness in full effect since I have nothing to do when I'm not working from home, so I still have some curiosity to try these out. You think the turn isn't as sharp or deep as Indy/Ace though? If that's the case maybe I will cross these off my list.
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Right on. Winter has my gear madness in full effect since I have nothing to do when I'm not working from home, so I still have some curiosity to try these out. You think the turn isn't as sharp or deep as Indy/Ace though? If that's the case maybe I will cross these off my list.
Haha I hear ya, I’m in madness mode at the moment too.
When they are tightened up a little, they feel like they delay a little bit before they begin to turn and when they turn it’s not as sharp as Indy or Ace. Wobbly it’s closer, to where it feels good to me, but still not the same.
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I was gifted a set of k5 DLK’s from a friend. I threw them on my filmer/cruiser board setup. They honestly feel like they barely turn. Super sluggish, delayed and unresponsive. I never rode the k4’s so I can’t comment how the turn feels compared to those, seeing as that’s Krux’s marketing behind the K5. Maybe the bushings will break in a bit more and the turn will get a bit better, but I’m not keeping my fingers crossed.
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I was gifted a set of k5 DLK’s from a friend. I threw them on my filmer/cruiser board setup. They honestly feel like they barely turn. Super sluggish, delayed and unresponsive. I never rode the k4’s so I can’t comment how the turn feels compared to those, seeing as that’s Krux’s marketing behind the K5. Maybe the bushings will break in a bit more and the turn will get a bit better, but I’m not keeping my fingers crossed.
Yeah I didn’t even mess with the stock bushings for more than 2 minutes, I just put in bones softs, greased the pivot cups and ride them super loose and mine turn great. It seems like the turn suffers a lot when I tighten them up and when I first tried them with the stock bushings the turn was no good.
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I was gifted a set of k5 DLK’s from a friend. I threw them on my filmer/cruiser board setup. They honestly feel like they barely turn. Super sluggish, delayed and unresponsive. I never rode the k4’s so I can’t comment how the turn feels compared to those, seeing as that’s Krux’s marketing behind the K5. Maybe the bushings will break in a bit more and the turn will get a bit better, but I’m not keeping my fingers crossed.
Yeah I didn’t even mess with the stock bushings for more than 2 minutes, I just put in bones softs, greased the pivot cups and ride them super loose and mine turn great. It seems like the turn suffers a lot when I tighten them up and when I first tried them with the stock bushings the turn was no good.
I decided to try out the stock bushings because I’ve used them in the past in a set of Indy’s and really like them. I’ll try putting some lube in the pivot and loosen them up a bit more and see if it helps
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If Krux were to get Satoshi or whatever the fuck his name was from gring king they could really be pulling in the dough.
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Reposted from the less popular truck brands thread
I got a set of the K5’s and skated them today. I threw some bones soft bushings in and greased the pivot cups because I didn’t want to wait until they break in to get a sense of if the new geometry turns better or not.
First impressions:
They do turn waaaay better than the K4. These still have a slight delay in turn when compared to Ace/Indy/Thunder, but are closer to Ventures turn imo, or maybe like if Thunder had a couple beers and it’s reaction time was slightly impaired, but still much improved from the comatose reaction time of the K4.
I generally prefer super responsive turns, so I would not ride the K5 tightened at all (I tried and hated it), but unexpectedly I found that I love them when they are wobbly loose. For some reason, wobbly loose the K5 turn nice enough to give a surfy feel, but are still stable enough on center to do flip tricks and to trust my ollies in traffic. When I ride Aces or Indy’s wobbly loose I love the feel but cannot trust the stability enough to do any tricks at speed. So the K5’s are actually a great wobbly loose truck.
The grind feels great. The metal feels like Thunders to me. I can’t tell if it’s because the metal is similar hardness, or because the grinding surface is smaller, but the grind is smooth.
Pop-wise, I set them up on a medium steep Baker (bbs) deck and they match it very well. They are significantly taller than the Thunder 147’s I had on it previously and the wb is similar I think (I measured these at +3.1) so they pop in a way I like but also feel nice for manuals. Actually, in this aspect they kind of remind me of Tensor mag lites (the tall ones).
Weight wise, they feel very light. I haven’t weighed them but they feel much lighter than Indy standards or Aces. Maybe closer to Thunder hollows but I might be full of shit trying to get that precise with it.
Anyway, to sum, they grind nice, turn well enough and when loosened to wobbly level, have all the nice characteristics of wobbly trucks but are still stable enough to do stuff on.
Cool this is what I'm hoping. I don't know how people rep venture right now. I have a new set of the 8.75s and they do not go straight.
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Honestly these trucks are fucking awesome. Inexpensive, lightweight, excellent stock bushings if you like soft/medium.
I'm running them with Bones hard 96a bushings and the downlow kingpins. Weighed at 340g per truck.
I run Venture 5.8 V-Lights on my other street board and I like those too, but damn these things grind buttery.
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