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General Discussion => WHATEVER => Topic started by: ungzilla on August 26, 2020, 11:56:48 AM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8665383/One-shot-dead-two-wounded-BLM-protesters-defy-curfew-Kenosha.html
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Things are so fucked right now
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Anthony Huber is a fucking hero.
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He left behind a daughter and a partner. Here’s a gofundme for them.
https://www.gofundme.com/f/249ip7bjxc
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damn, RIP, wasn't quite clear who was who in that article.
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So they just letting whoever play pretend cops now. RIP to the peaceful protesters murdered.
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Wow those AP photos are terrifying, Rest in Peace to those who were killed. By a 17 year old "protecting" "property".
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Just fucking awful. I have never felt so angry and so fucking helpless in my entire fucking life.
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Welcome to America.
White kid walks around with a deadly weapon and cops won't care.
POC exists and cops see a threat.
This country is fucking dumb.
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Just fucking awful. I have never felt so angry and so fucking helpless in my entire fucking life.
Same. I don't know what to even think anymore.
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Should have been at home with your wife and your step daughter, not out in the street at midnight creating chaos and swinging skateboard trucks. Especially not when your target is carrying and AR-15. Just seems like a poor long-term planning.
Shooting looked like self defense to me, but this shit was senseless and pointless from all parties involved.
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Should have been at home with your wife and your step daughter, not out in the street at midnight creating chaos and swinging skateboard trucks. Especially not when your target is carrying and AR-15. Just seems like a poor long-term planning.
Shooting looked like self defense to me, but this shit was senseless and pointless from all parties involved.
Fuck you. A thousand times over, fuck you.
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Should have been at home with your wife and your step daughter, not out in the street at midnight creating chaos and swinging skateboard trucks. Especially not when your target is carrying and AR-15. Just seems like a poor long-term planning.
Shooting looked like self defense to me, but this shit was senseless and pointless from all parties involved.
You're a fucking idiot. That dumbshit kid took a gun he legally isn't allowed to carry across state lines and killed 2 people. The police allowed these people to do as they pleased and now 2 people are dead. It's not self defense if you travel to a place you know is having violence, that's looking for trouble.
Fuck you, I hope that kid gets the shit kicked out of him, and I hope you hit a rock going up to a rail and bust your head. Maybe that'll kickstart your brain into having some humanity.
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RIP Anthony Huber
https://twitter.com/paricruz/status/1298695337457201155?s=21
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Should have been at home with your wife and your step daughter, not out in the street at midnight creating chaos and swinging skateboard trucks. Especially not when your target is carrying and AR-15. Just seems like a poor long-term planning.
Shooting looked like self defense to me, but this shit was senseless and pointless from all parties involved.
You blame the guy trying to disarm a trigger-happy kid with an illegal gun who just shot someone?
Fuck you, and how your automatic condemnation of the skater (and implicit defense of the gunchild) ignores other responsibilities
1- Cops shooting unarmed people in the back is a violation of the social contract. They don’t want protests and chaos? Stop shooting unarmed people.
2- You want untrained people enforcing property protection in communities they are not a part of?
The kid wanted to be a cop. Yet refused to follow the law.
Both of those are piss fucking poor long term planning.
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Should have been at home with your wife and your step daughter, not out in the street at midnight creating chaos and swinging skateboard trucks. Especially not when your target is carrying and AR-15. Just seems like a poor long-term planning.
Shooting looked like self defense to me, but this shit was senseless and pointless from all parties involved.
Have you ever considered getting lobotomized?
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This shithead is why I am all out of optimism for this country.
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Fuck you, chillyboy, you dumb incel piece of shit.
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Should have been at home with your wife and your step daughter, not out in the street at midnight creating chaos and swinging skateboard trucks. Especially not when your target is carrying and AR-15. Just seems like a poor long-term planning.
Shooting looked like self defense to me, but this shit was senseless and pointless from all parties involved.
Should have been you, you fucking fuck.
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Should have been at home with your wife and your step daughter, not out in the street at midnight creating chaos and swinging skateboard trucks. Especially not when your target is carrying and AR-15. Just seems like a poor long-term planning.
Shooting looked like self defense to me, but this shit was senseless and pointless from all parties involved.
Fuck outta here bootlicker
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This one hurt me down to my core. Rest in peace my brother.
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Anthony Huber is a fucking hero.
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So many bootlicking dipshits turning out on insta for this one. Skateboarding is not for their kind. They need to fuck off forever.
RIP to the murdered.
Eat shit, chilllyboy.
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The kid murdered someone else first, there is video of him walking away on the phone moments after and he says “ I just killed someone “ then people try to apprehend him and Anthony is one of those that get shot.
Fuck you Chillyboy.
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Its so hard understanding how this shit happens in other states! In my local area we never see anything like this, well, I do live in California.
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This is sickening. Anthony Huber is a hero.
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USA is a such a lolcow...
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horrible.
RIP
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RIP Anthony Huber
https://twitter.com/paricruz/status/1298695337457201155?s=21
damn, it's the people defending the act of killing ..
"f the shooter didn’t have a gun then this guy would likely be a murderer."
"He was filmed chasing down the armed teen and hitting him when he was on the ground with a skateboard. He has a criminal history that includes charges of battery & repeat domestic abuse."
"He tried to beat Kyle's brains out. Watch the video.
S to spit on this Marxist's grave."
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Just fucking awful. I have never felt so angry and so fucking helpless in my entire fucking life.
Speaking as an Old black dude I’m seriously to old for all this bull shit
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If you are looking into someone’s background to discredit a heroic act, you’re scum.
No, the dudes not perfect and under any other circumstance I’d be rallying with you saying this dude should have been trucked to the skull.
But the fact is that he also gave his life trying to defend others - the ultimate selfless act. You can hold him accountable for being an awful human being aside from this act, but if doesn’t change the fact that he died rushing an armed bootlicker.
Sometimes bad people die trying to do the most good, and we can be okay with holding someone accountable for both the good they’ve done and the bad they’ve done.
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If you are looking into someone’s background to discredit a heroic act, you’re scum.
No, the dudes not perfect and under any other circumstance I’d be rallying with you saying this dude should have been trucked to the skull.
But the fact is that he also gave his life trying to defend others - the ultimate selfless act. You can hold him accountable for being an awful human being aside from this act, but if doesn’t change the fact that he died rushing an armed bootlicker.
Sometimes bad people die trying to do the most good, and we can be okay with holding someone accountable for both the good they’ve done and the bad they’ve done.
the user is trolling obviously ...just put on ignore and move on
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Terrifying.
Some years back I would have been positive in taking these Chillyboys for trolls. Not so much anymore. Mig-tau scum.
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entire situation is fucked . dude on here defending the killer is a piece of shit
this video is nsfw but it’s really weird to me . why is victim #1 talking like that?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/vFARBth2DT3C/
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I know this thread is about Anthony Huber, but I just came across the YouTuber Chadd Sinclair who went after Fetty Potter and Braille...he's got this video saying Jacob Blake is a child rapist. People justify the fucking pigs deadly force of 7 bullets is disgusting.
https://youtu.be/v0GSmRFqkzc
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That is just gross. Cops try to kill black people and then try to make up stuff to justify it. It's an established pattern, but idiots still fall for this tactic every time in the media. It just shows how weak minded some people are when they fall for it.
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RIP Anthony Huber
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Is this civil war ?
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Most of the time when these US Police shootings happens, you read it, feel like wtf is wrong with these people, but still a bit disconnected. Living in Sweden I guess I have a bit of a "safe" zone and it so far and such. So you read it and kinda go on with your day. Not that I dont have sympathy or anything but I guess thats just how ones shields himself.
I saw the whole event on Thesecretapes instastory this morning, on how the cops encouraged him, gave him water, told him how much they appreciated him there, and how they just let him go and pass them after killing 2 people.
I dont think I ever seen anything that hit so hard - Im so full of rage and sorrow right, I just cant believe this shit.
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Most of the time when these US Police shootings happens, you read it, feel like wtf is wrong with these people, but still a bit disconnected. Living in Sweden I guess I have a bit of a "safe" zone and it so far and such. So you read it and kinda go on with your day. Not that I dont have sympathy or anything but I guess thats just how ones shields himself.
I saw the whole event on Thesecretapes instastory this morning, on how the cops encouraged him, gave him water, told him how much they appreciated him there, and how they just let him go and pass them after killing 2 people.
I dont think I ever seen anything that hit so hard - Im so full of rage and sorrow right, I just cant believe this shit.
That was the most infuriating part of this situation for me.
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Found this. Kind of an amazing photo of Hubert taking down the piece of shit who ended up murdering him and another person.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgaqaxsX0AI-z7O?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Also, video of him and his lady skating the local park
https://twitter.com/paricruz/status/1298695337457201155
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are jokes allowed yet?
mods, please advise?
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death to white supremacy
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Enjoy the headache:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRJcR6V81Ik
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It sucks that everything is divisive bullshit these days. Cant we all just get along? :'(
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Ever wonder how people went along and justified support for the actual the Nazis back in the day despite how batshit psychopathic they were?
Now you know.
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Ever wonder how people went along and justified support for the actual the Nazis back in the day despite how batshit psychopathic they were?
Now you know.
Yea I actually read there were a lot of assassination attempts from within nazi Germany ...shit snowballs once people cease to take actions against bullies. WW2 is a clear example of that.
It’s actions from real hero’s like Hubert that caused the allies to win
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SOTY
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CEJ-bLLp1Fq/?igshid=41x0qtjtdw58
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So I provide one dissenting opinion and thats all it takes. Banned for life. I guess Slap is no place for civil discourse.
To everyone calling this guy a hero, please remember that "hero" is subjective. Kyle thought he was doing a heroic act by cleaning graffiti attempting to protect the neighborhood from unruly mobs looking to destroy the livelihoods of innocent business owners. The Car Source he was guarding was across the street from another car lot that had been gutted and burned down the previous night. Those people were innocent. What did they do to deserve that.
The first man he shot (Joseph Rosenbaum)can be seen ON VIDEO chasing him and trying to engage him. A reporter nearby said Kyle only shot when the man tried to grab his AR. Only then did he defend himself. He even stayed with the body to telephone for help. Thats when the rest of the mob turned on him. In the video he is actively fleeing the mob, running in the direction of the police. He could have easily just sprayed them all. Instead he only shoots people that were immediately attacking him. He even tried to spare the last dude after he sees him put his hands up, but when the guy lunges at him with the gun, he shoots his trigger hand.
Its sad what happened to the skater, but this dude let Mob mentality take over. Swinging a skateboard at a scared, armed teenager, who is running from a mob just shows a failure to apply basic common sense and judgement.
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are jokes allowed yet?
mods, please advise?
id advise against it but please pm them to me
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RIP Anthony Huber.
Anyone defending the shooter is fried, bar none.
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Also mods, you can keep the account, just give me my Antwuan smoking meth gif back. You can't find that shit on the internet #RARE
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So I provide one dissenting opinion and thats all it takes. Banned for life. I guess Slap is no place for civil discourse.
To everyone calling this guy a hero, please remember that "hero" is subjective. Kyle thought he was doing a heroic act by cleaning graffiti attempting to protect the neighborhood from unruly mobs looking to destroy the livelihoods of innocent business owners. The Car Source he was guarding was across the street from another car lot that had been gutted and burned down the previous night. Those people were innocent. What did they do to deserve that.
The first man he shot (Joseph Rosenbaum)can be seen ON VIDEO chasing him and trying to engage him. A reporter nearby said Kyle only shot when the man tried to grab his AR. Only then did he defend himself. He even stayed with the body to telephone for help. Thats when the rest of the mob turned on him. In the video he is actively fleeing the mob, running in the direction of the police. He could have easily just sprayed them all. Instead he only shoots people that were immediately attacking him. He even tried to spare the last dude after he sees him put his hands up, but when the guy lunges at him with the gun, he shoots his trigger hand.
Its sad what happened to the skater, but this dude let Mob mentality take over. Swinging a skateboard at a scared, armed teenager, who is running from a mob just shows a failure to apply basic common sense and judgement.
fuck you, cunt
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So I provide one dissenting opinion and thats all it takes. Banned for life. I guess Slap is no place for civil discourse.
To everyone calling this guy a hero, please remember that "hero" is subjective. Kyle thought he was doing a heroic act by cleaning graffiti attempting to protect the neighborhood from unruly mobs looking to destroy the livelihoods of innocent business owners. The Car Source he was guarding was across the street from another car lot that had been gutted and burned down the previous night. Those people were innocent. What did they do to deserve that.
The first man he shot (Joseph Rosenbaum)can be seen ON VIDEO chasing him and trying to engage him. A reporter nearby said Kyle only shot when the man tried to grab his AR. Only then did he defend himself. He even stayed with the body to telephone for help. Thats when the rest of the mob turned on him. In the video he is actively fleeing the mob, running in the direction of the police. He could have easily just sprayed them all. Instead he only shoots people that were immediately attacking him. He even tried to spare the last dude after he sees him put his hands up, but when the guy lunges at him with the gun, he shoots his trigger hand.
Its sad what happened to the skater, but this dude let Mob mentality take over. Swinging a skateboard at a scared, armed teenager, who is running from a mob just shows a failure to apply basic common sense and judgement.
Shut up, bitch. Cool, he cleaned graffiti, why would he need a rifle to clean graffiti? He took it to "protect businesses" because America has a boner for "Good guy with a gun" hero narratives and he thought he'd play cop and guess what cops do? Kill people because they supposedly fear for their lives. Looks like he's on a fast track to paid leave.
This dumbass argument sounds like when people say we're in the middle east to "Defend our freedom" by going somewhere else we have no business being and then killing someone.
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So I provide one dissenting opinion and thats all it takes. Banned for life. I guess Slap is no place for civil discourse.
To everyone calling this guy a hero, please remember that "hero" is subjective. Kyle thought he was doing a heroic act by cleaning graffiti attempting to protect the neighborhood from unruly mobs looking to destroy the livelihoods of innocent business owners. The Car Source he was guarding was across the street from another car lot that had been gutted and burned down the previous night. Those people were innocent. What did they do to deserve that.
The first man he shot (Joseph Rosenbaum)can be seen ON VIDEO chasing him and trying to engage him. A reporter nearby said Kyle only shot when the man tried to grab his AR. Only then did he defend himself. He even stayed with the body to telephone for help. Thats when the rest of the mob turned on him. In the video he is actively fleeing the mob, running in the direction of the police. He could have easily just sprayed them all. Instead he only shoots people that were immediately attacking him. He even tried to spare the last dude after he sees him put his hands up, but when the guy lunges at him with the gun, he shoots his trigger hand.
Its sad what happened to the skater, but this dude let Mob mentality take over. Swinging a skateboard at a scared, armed teenager, who is running from a mob just shows a failure to apply basic common sense and judgement.
fuck you, cunt
also you’re purposefully telling a false narrative . he shot and killed the first person, then started running away, which is when victim 2 chased him down to try and disarm him while reaching for his sling (doing so because he had just murdered someone) .. then shot and killed victim 2 (not because he’s defending himself but because he’s a mass murderer). he then next shot the other man in the arm . then the piece of shit cops drove by the invisible killer and allowed him to flee the scene of the crime / entire state
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So I provide one dissenting opinion and thats all it takes. Banned for life. I guess Slap is no place for civil discourse.
To everyone calling this guy a hero, please remember that "hero" is subjective. Kyle thought he was doing a heroic act by cleaning graffiti attempting to protect the neighborhood from unruly mobs looking to destroy the livelihoods of innocent business owners. The Car Source he was guarding was across the street from another car lot that had been gutted and burned down the previous night. Those people were innocent. What did they do to deserve that.
The first man he shot (Joseph Rosenbaum)can be seen ON VIDEO chasing him and trying to engage him. A reporter nearby said Kyle only shot when the man tried to grab his AR. Only then did he defend himself. He even stayed with the body to telephone for help. Thats when the rest of the mob turned on him. In the video he is actively fleeing the mob, running in the direction of the police. He could have easily just sprayed them all. Instead he only shoots people that were immediately attacking him. He even tried to spare the last dude after he sees him put his hands up, but when the guy lunges at him with the gun, he shoots his trigger hand.
Its sad what happened to the skater, but this dude let Mob mentality take over. Swinging a skateboard at a scared, armed teenager, who is running from a mob just shows a failure to apply basic common sense and judgement.
It's okay. They won't ban you over at 4chan where you usually post. Go there and circle jerk with your bootlicker friends.
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So I provide one dissenting opinion and thats all it takes. Banned for life. I guess Slap is no place for civil discourse.
To everyone calling this guy a hero, please remember that "hero" is subjective. Kyle thought he was doing a heroic act by cleaning graffiti attempting to protect the neighborhood from unruly mobs looking to destroy the livelihoods of innocent business owners. The Car Source he was guarding was across the street from another car lot that had been gutted and burned down the previous night. Those people were innocent. What did they do to deserve that.
The first man he shot (Joseph Rosenbaum)can be seen ON VIDEO chasing him and trying to engage him. A reporter nearby said Kyle only shot when the man tried to grab his AR. Only then did he defend himself. He even stayed with the body to telephone for help. Thats when the rest of the mob turned on him. In the video he is actively fleeing the mob, running in the direction of the police. He could have easily just sprayed them all. Instead he only shoots people that were immediately attacking him. He even tried to spare the last dude after he sees him put his hands up, but when the guy lunges at him with the gun, he shoots his trigger hand.
Its sad what happened to the skater, but this dude let Mob mentality take over. Swinging a skateboard at a scared, armed teenager, who is running from a mob just shows a failure to apply basic common sense and judgement.
fuck you, cunt
Strong refutal
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It sucks that everything is divisive bullshit these days. Cant we all just get along? :'(
It's really fucking good, its called separating good from bad. I don't wanna get allong with anyone that thinks that shit like this is okay.
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So I provide one dissenting opinion and thats all it takes. Banned for life. I guess Slap is no place for civil discourse.
To everyone calling this guy a hero, please remember that "hero" is subjective. Kyle thought he was doing a heroic act by cleaning graffiti attempting to protect the neighborhood from unruly mobs looking to destroy the livelihoods of innocent business owners. The Car Source he was guarding was across the street from another car lot that had been gutted and burned down the previous night. Those people were innocent. What did they do to deserve that.
The first man he shot (Joseph Rosenbaum)can be seen ON VIDEO chasing him and trying to engage him. A reporter nearby said Kyle only shot when the man tried to grab his AR. Only then did he defend himself. He even stayed with the body to telephone for help. Thats when the rest of the mob turned on him. In the video he is actively fleeing the mob, running in the direction of the police. He could have easily just sprayed them all. Instead he only shoots people that were immediately attacking him. He even tried to spare the last dude after he sees him put his hands up, but when the guy lunges at him with the gun, he shoots his trigger hand.
Its sad what happened to the skater, but this dude let Mob mentality take over. Swinging a skateboard at a scared, armed teenager, who is running from a mob just shows a failure to apply basic common sense and judgement.
To the user: Chilllyboy. As someone who doesn't live in the States, I find post like these absolutely insane and disgusting.
No sane person goes anywhere "to defend property" they have no connection to, especially not with a fucking semi-automatic rifle. And you can't compare value of a property to a human life. That he was there to "clean graffitti" or whatever bullshit, is just a way to shift blame from white supremacy and make people symphatise with the murderer. He went there to kill people, people he was brainwashed to think were his "enemies". He murdered someone in cold-blood, there's no case for self-defense as he had absolutely no reason to be there. Then when he tried to escape, he shot people who tried to stop him, with zero thought in pulling the trigger. This is also completely insane. And the fact that he was only 17, I just wonder what went wrong in his upbringing. And the cops who let him walk away free after killing two and injuring so many, it's just bonkers.
And to the people who defend this white supremacist piece of shit, you know if he wasn't white, there would be a fucking national emergency declaring him a terrorist . But no, there's assholes like you trying to find reasons why it was OK for him to kill other human beings, because he is white like you.
To conclude: America is a pretty fucked up place, destroy white supremacy, all cops are bastards (every single one of them), get help.
And most importantly, fuck you chilllyboy and all the other racist, white supremacist pieces of shit who post here. Stay the fuck away from skateboarding.
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Anthony Huber is a fucking hero.
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Anthony Huber Kyle Rittenhouse is a fucking hero.
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great, this fucking moron is back
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Remember when you couldn’t bomb a mellow hill and fell into the lake
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RIP Antony Huber. (Unless you're actually a sex offender)
Fuck anyone trying to be the man. Fuck everyone who is being supportive of these "milita" cucks.
That was so so far away from ok shit to do.
That shit is exactly the same as gangsterism. The trash came in force via caravans to take lifes and then flee across state lines.
They should all be federaly fucked. That shit was a raid.
Kyle is going to fold like a wet napkin on his right wing buds because they left him behind to get killed. Then what? They get absorbed into gen pop? No fucking way.
Stick a fork in Kyle that dude is fucking done.
It hard to pay the extortion money and pay the lawyer.
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Ever wonder how people went along and justified support for the actual the Nazis back in the day despite how batshit psychopathic they were?
Now you know.
I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately and it’s really disheartening to see the amount of people who would follow along in a similar situation. I had an old co worker today try to call Kyle a hero and referred to blm as thugs/ rioters. It just blows my mind..
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What’s amazing is that I had been a Forum member since 2003 and I always remembered this place as having some of the freest speech on the whole internet. Porn, gore, racial and homophobic slurs—you could get away with anything except for flooding and spam.
But political correctness and cancel culture have become so pervasive as to infect even this once-sacred place. All it took was for Trump to be elected for this board to go from no-fucks-given to snowflake SJWs. Now you’re slamming down the banhammer on Pals who dare to share what amounts to a mainstream, centrist take on a controversial news item.
No, the right to self-defense is not a “far-right” or racist or white supremacist or Nazi position. What Europoor posters and the American traitors who don’t appreciate the Bill of Rights fail to understand is that citizen militias are part of the proud history of the United States. As the quaint and normally quiet city of Kenosha’s downtown was burned and looted, local small businesses destroyed, people’s vehicles totaled, the city PD, the Sheriff’s Department and even the National Guard were clearly overwhelmed and had directed most available resources to securing the county courthouse from certain destruction. Which is exactly why you saw deputies thank Kyle Rittenhouse and his fellow patriots for their presence in an (ultimately inadequate) attempt to bring order during what amounted to a terrorist insurgency.
Fact: Anthony Huber won himself a Darwin Award by bringing a skateboard to a rifle fight. He was not a hero, but a proven criminal with a felony record for violent activity who died during an attempted robbery/murder.
Fact: Kyle Rittenhouse was retreating from attack when someone unknown fired a handgun either in the air or in his direction and as he turned around Joseph Rosenbaum attempted to take his weapon at which point Kyle fired in self-defense. If any of you morons actually did any research before running your mouths you'd know that the New York Times's own rigorous of available footage shows Kyle did not fire first.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html
Fact: After successfully defending himself from Rosenbaum, Kyle ensured Rosenbaum was being attended to before calling 911 and informing the operator he had just shot someone in self-defense.
Fact: As an angry mob approached, Kyle retreated on foot and was attacked by multiple assailants, including Huber who swung a skateboard (deadly weapon) at him. Grosskreutz (a convicted felon) feigned surrender (a war crime as per the Geneva Convention) holding up his hands then as Kyle’s attention was diverted pulled an illegally carried pistol in an attempt to execute Kyle, who repelled the attack by shooting him in the arm. Rather than finishing Grosskreutz, Kyle retreated yet again toward police in an attempt to surrender.
Fact: Kyle’s legal defense has already raised massive amounts of funding, possibly into the seven figures, as the greatest defense team since the OJ Simpson trial assembles to free him from an unjust, politically motivated, malicious prosecution.
Fact: political organizations from around the country are rallying to defend Kyle’s actions. He literally did nothing wrong.
Fact: Kyle's rifle never left Wisconsin and even if it had it’s not clear that it would be unlawful. I’ve also seen plenty of Wisconsin-based legal opinion that at 17 he was indeed allowed to open carry a rifle in that state.
FACT: Wanted felon Jacob Blake fought with Kenosha PD and nearly won himself a Darwin award by resisting arrest and walking with purpose toward his vehicle door, opening it and reaching inside. If you can watch that video and not be convinced it was a justifiable shooting, it shows you know nothing about police procedure.
Seethe more, commie scum. Kyle is walking, Trump is getting re-elected and Slap is turning into a triggered SJW echo chamber shithole. P.S. Bobby Worrest is overrated.
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FACT: This account literally registered a day ago ^^^
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That was a lot of typing just to say you're okay with murder.
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That was a lot of typing just to say you're okay with murder.
Bounce, Lame_Nigga.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/kyle-rittenhouse-working-lifeguard-kenosha-day-shooting-went-clean-vandalism-school-work/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
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Again,
Not self defense. He was being disarmed after shooting someone.
No one tried to kill him, only one person did the killing, and that was a kid who brought a gun illegally to a place he had no business being.
Cling to your tropes, it won’t expunge you from trying to justify murder.
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What’s amazing is that I had been a Forum member since 2003 and I always remembered this place as having some of the freest speech on the whole internet. Porn, gore, racial and homophobic slurs—you could get away with anything except for flooding and spam.
But political correctness and cancel culture have become so pervasive as to infect even this once-sacred place. All it took was for Trump to be elected for this board to go from no-fucks-given to snowflake SJWs. Now you’re slamming down the banhammer on Pals who dare to share what amounts to a mainstream, centrist take on a controversial news item.
No, the right to self-defense is not a “far-right” or racist or white supremacist or Nazi position. What Europoor posters and the American traitors who don’t appreciate the Bill of Rights fail to understand is that citizen militias are part of the proud history of the United States. As the quaint and normally quiet city of Kenosha’s downtown was burned and looted, local small businesses destroyed, people’s vehicles totaled, the city PD, the Sheriff’s Department and even the National Guard were clearly overwhelmed and had directed most available resources to securing the county courthouse from certain destruction. Which is exactly why you saw deputies thank Kyle Rittenhouse and his fellow patriots for their presence in an (ultimately inadequate) attempt to bring order during what amounted to a terrorist insurgency.
Fact: Anthony Huber won himself a Darwin Award by bringing a skateboard to a rifle fight. He was not a hero, but a proven criminal with a felony record for violent activity who died during an attempted robbery/murder.
Fact: Kyle Rittenhouse was retreating from attack when someone unknown fired a handgun either in the air or in his direction and as he turned around Joseph Rosenbaum attempted to take his weapon at which point Kyle fired in self-defense. If any of you morons actually did any research before running your mouths you'd know that the New York Times's own rigorous of available footage shows Kyle did not fire first.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.html
Fact: After successfully defending himself from Rosenbaum, Kyle ensured Rosenbaum was being attended to before calling 911 and informing the operator he had just shot someone in self-defense.
Fact: As an angry mob approached, Kyle retreated on foot and was attacked by multiple assailants, including Huber who swung a skateboard (deadly weapon) at him. Grosskreutz (a convicted felon) feigned surrender (a war crime as per the Geneva Convention) holding up his hands then as Kyle’s attention was diverted pulled an illegally carried pistol in an attempt to execute Kyle, who repelled the attack by shooting him in the arm. Rather than finishing Grosskreutz, Kyle retreated yet again toward police in an attempt to surrender.
Fact: Kyle’s legal defense has already raised massive amounts of funding, possibly into the seven figures, as the greatest defense team since the OJ Simpson trial assembles to free him from an unjust, politically motivated, malicious prosecution.
Fact: political organizations from around the country are rallying to defend Kyle’s actions. He literally did nothing wrong.
Fact: Kyle's rifle never left Wisconsin and even if it had it’s not clear that it would be unlawful. I’ve also seen plenty of Wisconsin-based legal opinion that at 17 he was indeed allowed to open carry a rifle in that state.
FACT: Wanted felon Jacob Blake fought with Kenosha PD and nearly won himself a Darwin award by resisting arrest and walking with purpose toward his vehicle door, opening it and reaching inside. If you can watch that video and not be convinced it was a justifiable shooting, it shows you know nothing about police procedure.
Seethe more, commie scum. Kyle is walking, Trump is getting re-elected and Slap is turning into a triggered SJW echo chamber shithole. P.S. Bobby Worrest is overrated.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEcuh-phLsX/?igshid=1ckhmidlneqzv
Or your 10+ paragraph essay justifying murder by wannabe kid cops.
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Yeah, there's no point to engage with someone who's some edgelord troll idiot at best / white supremacist asshole moron at worst.
Can't bother to rebute that amount of bullshit, but I will say that I loathe that "the people he killed were "insert some lame justification here""-talking point, that some douche bags use to justify the murders. The murderer wasn't a wannabe Robocop who had the instant knowledge of who he's killing, it's just at a complete random. It could have been a future Hitler, but most likely it was someones brother, sister, son, daughter, father, best friend or anything between.
And I can't take anyone who shares those "gatewaybundit" links seriously, that site is like reading the Onion, but not funny at all. Anyone who has even a slight amount of media literacy could see their contents being a total bullshit. But I know there are a lot folks that get sucked in to shit like that and it's sad as hell to see.
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Should have been at home with your wife and your step daughter, not out in the street at midnight creating chaos and swinging skateboard trucks. Especially not when your target is carrying and AR-15. Just seems like a poor long-term planning.
Shooting looked like self defense to me, but this shit was senseless and pointless from all parties involved.
Please delete your account and seriously reassess what you posted. Start new tomorrow.
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one lawyer's attempt to objectively break down and discuss this awful mess
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSU9ZvnudFE
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Given being European makes me unable to understand the "proud history of the United States"
what i know is if Police is overwhelmed, you call the army
you don't let kids with guns do the job
your whole narrative is nauseating
I just hope there's more humanity in your judicial system than in "centrists" like you...
Only weak minds use terms like SJW, political correctness, cancel culture, snowflakes
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Lets be honest, if a black kid traveled across state lines to a klan rally in a BLM shirt with an AR-15 and some white supremacist confronted him and he shot them, he would not get off with that self-defense excuse, and the same people defending Kyle Whateverhouse, would have called that black kid the agitator who went into a situation where he wanted to kill white people.
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one lawyer's attempt to objectively break down and discuss this awful mess
Ah yes, someone who wears a shirt with a rifle and "essential" ja cap with "#thepewpewlife" is definitely someone who can objectively comment on the problems, dangers and normalization of gun violence in the United States. (Not to mention it takes a second to look at his other videos to see where he stands, so there's zero chances he's gonna say that he's on the wrong side and it's not OK to give (semi-automatic) weapons to kids, because that would contradict everything else he's standing on).
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proud history of the United States.
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Ah yes, someone who wears a shirt with a rifle and "essential" ja cap with "#thepewpewlife" is definitely someone who can objectively comment on the problems, dangers and normalization of gun violence in the United States. (Not to mention it takes a second to look at his other videos to see where he stands, so there's zero chances he's gonna say that he's on the wrong side and it's not OK to give (semi-automatic) weapons to kids, because that would contradict everything else he's standing on).
thanks for commenting on his clothes and other videos--do you have anything to say about his actual break down of the events and his attempts to figure out how the law may or may not apply?
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Crazy how property damage is considered not to be the correct response for murder, but murder is considered the correct response for property damage.
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That was a lot of typing just to say you're okay with murder.
Bounce, Lame_Nigga.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/kyle-rittenhouse-working-lifeguard-kenosha-day-shooting-went-clean-vandalism-school-work/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
Didn't know cleaning graffiti gives you a free pass to kill 2 people. Guess most of us have some passes to use since legit almost everyone has done volunteer work at some point.
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That was a lot of typing just to say you're okay with murder.
Bounce, Lame_Nigga.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/kyle-rittenhouse-working-lifeguard-kenosha-day-shooting-went-clean-vandalism-school-work/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
Yeah, remember when Ted Bundy’s lawyers fans argued that his actions were fine because he volunteered at a suicide prevention hotline? That’s why he got off and didn’t fry.
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I've been a member on this forum since it probably first started. The funny thing is in the time since then I have grown up. I'm a much more mature person. Also, the world at large has grown up.
If you're on here thinking this place is a time machine to go back to 2003, then simply, fuck off.
That's like thinking if this place existed since before civil rights then I should be able to still act like the racist, homophobic jackass that was accepted back then.
Grow up. There are now teenagers with a more mature outlook. I'm raising one.
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Crazy how property damage is considered not to be the correct response for murder, but murder is considered the correct response for property damage.
Allen, i know you're quoting someone else here and that this is directed at the unfortunately large body of malignant Americans who think that protecting property is ever a reason to kill another human being (i completely disagree), but nevertheless, for those of us who have forced ourselves to sit through break-downs of these fucked events (not just the one above in this thread, but the one in the New York Times too), i have to ask, who was murdered because of “property damage”?
i wish all of the young people involved would have stayed home that night, with all of my heart i do. unfortunately though, the people directly involved had traveled to Kenosha for their--very--different reasons. i’m yet to see any footage showing that the actual shooting broke out as a reaction to either Anthony Huber or Joseph Rosenbaum simply “damaging property.”
the FIRST fucking thing that Jacob Blake’s mom did when first speaking publicly is adamantly distance her son and her family from the rioting, destruction, and looting supposedly being done in his name, and i do not blame her. the fact that this conversation is now about all of these other people and all of these other events says everything about how completely lost the actual victims of racist police brutality become in the chaos that follows these days.
the destruction and looting is not changing anyone’s mind on the “other side” (quite the opposite in fact) and the family wants nothing to do with it, so what was the objective that night? catharsis for the protestors?
in my years of university teaching, in a number of my classes where we have dealt with what went down in Detroit in 1967, i have always approached it from the perspective that it was a “rebellion,” and not a “riot,” and i will continue to do so. the people who took part in it were actually FROM the city itself and were reacting to unbearable conditions to which THEY were directly subject. (in the past months, i am proud that in the city of Detroit, the protestors have tried to remain peaceful and nothing has been destroyed, which has simply worked to emphasize and illuminate when/how the police are being especially draconian.)
this is not the case with many of the white kids taking part in the riots and looting that otherwise peaceful protests have been declining into at night in the past months. and i’m not just talking about the white kids that drive from other cities--i’m talking about some of the privileged, gentrifying hypocrites destroying businesses and looting, who can just up and leave once there’s nowhere to get groceries, medication, etc....unlike all of the poor, elderly, and disabled people stranded in these burnt out and destroyed neighborhoods in which they’ve lived all or most of their lives, and who are being left with nowhere to buy food and nowhere to get the medication they need, and who can’t even get on public transit to go somewhere else, because it has been interrupted due to the destruction.
i disagree as much with burning down grocery stores and pharmacies and medical-supply stores that poor, old, and disabled people depend upon for their very lives, as i do with ANYONE bringing a gun to a place/situation that one knows is going to be volatile and out of control...
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Ever wonder how people went along and justified support for the actual the Nazis back in the day despite how batshit psychopathic they were?
Now you know.
I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately and it’s really disheartening to see the amount of people who would follow along in a similar situation. I had an old co worker today try to call Kyle a hero and referred to blm as thugs/ rioters. It just blows my mind..
I was thinking along these same lines this week and the events of the past few months have convinced me that most Germans were probably just assholes.
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Crazy how property damage is considered not to be the correct response for murder, but murder is considered the correct response for property damage.
Allen, i know you're quoting someone else here and that this is directed at the unfortunately large body of malignant Americans who think that protecting property is ever a reason to kill another human being (i completely disagree), but nevertheless, for those of us who have forced ourselves to sit through break-downs of these fucked events (not just the one above in this thread, but the one in the New York Times too), i have to ask, who was murdered because of “property damage”?
i wish all of the young people involved would have stayed home that night, with all of my heart i do. unfortunately though, the people directly involved had traveled to Kenosha for their--very--different reasons. i’m yet to see any footage showing that the actual shooting broke out as a reaction to either Anthony Huber or Joseph Rosenbaum simply “damaging property.”
the FIRST fucking thing that Jacob Blake’s mom did when first speaking publicly is adamantly distance her son and her family from the rioting, destruction, and looting supposedly being done in his name, and i do not blame her. the fact that this conversation is now about all of these other people and all of these other events says everything about how completely lost the actual victims of racist police brutality become in the chaos that follows these days.
the destruction and looting is not changing anyone’s mind on the “other side” (quite the opposite in fact) and the family wants nothing to do with it, so what was the objective that night? catharsis for the protestors?
in my years of university teaching, in a number of my classes where we have dealt with what went down in Detroit in 1967, i have always approached it from the perspective that it was a “rebellion,” and not a “riot,” and i will continue to do so. the people who took part in it were actually FROM the city itself and were reacting to unbearable conditions to which THEY were directly subject. (in the past months, i am proud that in the city of Detroit, the protestors have tried to remain peaceful and nothing has been destroyed, which has simply worked to emphasize and illuminate when/how the police are being especially draconian.)
this is not the case with many of the white kids taking part in the riots and looting that otherwise peaceful protests have been declining into at night in the past months. and i’m not just talking about the white kids that drive from other cities--i’m talking about some of the privileged, gentrifying hypocrites destroying businesses and looting, who can just up and leave once there’s nowhere to get groceries, medication, etc....unlike all of the poor, elderly, and disabled people stranded in these burnt out and destroyed neighborhoods in which they’ve lived all or most of their lives, and who are being left with nowhere to buy food and nowhere to get the medication they need, and who can’t even get on public transit to go somewhere else, because it has been interrupted due to the destruction.
i disagree as much with burning down grocery stores and pharmacies and medical-supply stores that poor, old, and disabled people depend upon for their very lives, as i do with ANYONE bringing a gun to a place/situation that one knows is going to be volatile and out of control...
Cool, I’m from Detroit. That was a rebellion. Glad we have that out of the way.
The two in Kenosha were murdered by a privileged white kid who had a ride from his mother into a different state to ‘protect property,’ presumably from property damage.
With all due respect you cannot play both sides the way you are. There is a certain point where you must decide what is worth it. I’m not pro burning shit down but I understand why these things happen - protesting does not work. Nothing has changed since Floyd, or Breona Taylor, or Elijah McClain and up until yesterday an innocent man, already permanently maimed by the police supposed to protect and serve the public, was hand cuffed to a hospital bed and cops were refusing to explain why - violating his rights.
I can part with some buildings and property* in order for serious change to happen. People are literally being told “your lives don’t matter.” These people are fucking livid, and rightly so. The police are clearly working with hate groups and attacking peaceful protestors around the country and more people are showing up demanding things change. Yeah, I wish there weren’t protests either because I wish things weren’t like this.
This shit shouldn’t be political. Police should not be able to kill citizens. Police shouldn’t be aiding and thanking murderers. The self defense argument doesn’t work either: if columbine had happened in 2020 and a student In a Bernie shirt rushed Klebold and Harris during columbine and got shot, they’d argue the kid had it coming. Shoulda stayed home that day. Shouldn’t have rushed a guy with a gun.
*i don’t want mom and pops to lose capitol/inventory/their space. Fuck all the major chains and big box stores and the like. They make more off of the lives of the same disenfranchised people than we could ever comprehend.
I understand my bias but things are going to continue to get worse until They listen.
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Crazy how property damage is considered not to be the correct response for murder, but murder is considered the correct response for property damage.
Allen, i know you're quoting someone else here and that this is directed at the unfortunately large body of malignant Americans who think that protecting property is ever a reason to kill another human being (i completely disagree), but nevertheless, for those of us who have forced ourselves to sit through break-downs of these fucked events (not just the one above in this thread, but the one in the New York Times too), i have to ask, who was murdered because of “property damage”?
i wish all of the young people involved would have stayed home that night, with all of my heart i do. unfortunately though, the people directly involved had traveled to Kenosha for their--very--different reasons. i’m yet to see any footage showing that the actual shooting broke out as a reaction to either Anthony Huber or Joseph Rosenbaum simply “damaging property.”
the FIRST fucking thing that Jacob Blake’s mom did when first speaking publicly is adamantly distance her son and her family from the rioting, destruction, and looting supposedly being done in his name, and i do not blame her. the fact that this conversation is now about all of these other people and all of these other events says everything about how completely lost the actual victims of racist police brutality become in the chaos that follows these days.
the destruction and looting is not changing anyone’s mind on the “other side” (quite the opposite in fact) and the family wants nothing to do with it, so what was the objective that night? catharsis for the protestors?
in my years of university teaching, in a number of my classes where we have dealt with what went down in Detroit in 1967, i have always approached it from the perspective that it was a “rebellion,” and not a “riot,” and i will continue to do so. the people who took part in it were actually FROM the city itself and were reacting to unbearable conditions to which THEY were directly subject. (in the past months, i am proud that in the city of Detroit, the protestors have tried to remain peaceful and nothing has been destroyed, which has simply worked to emphasize and illuminate when/how the police are being especially draconian.)
this is not the case with many of the white kids taking part in the riots and looting that otherwise peaceful protests have been declining into at night in the past months. and i’m not just talking about the white kids that drive from other cities--i’m talking about some of the privileged, gentrifying hypocrites destroying businesses and looting, who can just up and leave once there’s nowhere to get groceries, medication, etc....unlike all of the poor, elderly, and disabled people stranded in these burnt out and destroyed neighborhoods in which they’ve lived all or most of their lives, and who are being left with nowhere to buy food and nowhere to get the medication they need, and who can’t even get on public transit to go somewhere else, because it has been interrupted due to the destruction.
i disagree as much with burning down grocery stores and pharmacies and medical-supply stores that poor, old, and disabled people depend upon for their very lives, as i do with ANYONE bringing a gun to a place/situation that one knows is going to be volatile and out of control...
Cool, I’m from Detroit. That was a rebellion. Glad we have that out of the way.
The two in Kenosha were murdered by a privileged white kid who had a ride from his mother into a different state to ‘protect property,’ presumably from property damage.
With all due respect you cannot play both sides the way you are. There is a certain point where you must decide what is worth it. I’m not pro burning shit down but I understand why these things happen - protesting does not work. Nothing has changed since Floyd, or Breona Taylor, or Elijah McClain and up until yesterday an innocent man, already permanently maimed by the police supposed to protect and serve the public, was hand cuffed to a hospital bed and cops were refusing to explain why - violating his rights.
I can part with some buildings and property* in order for serious change to happen. People are literally being told “your lives don’t matter.” These people are fucking livid, and rightly so. The police are clearly working with hate groups and attacking peaceful protestors around the country and more people are showing up demanding things change. Yeah, I wish there weren’t protests either because I wish things weren’t like this.
This shit shouldn’t be political. Police should not be able to kill citizens. Police shouldn’t be aiding and thanking murderers. The self defense argument doesn’t work either: if columbine had happened in 2020 and a student In a Bernie shirt rushed Klebold and Harris during columbine and got shot, they’d argue the kid had it coming. Shoulda stayed home that day. Shouldn’t have rushed a guy with a gun.
*i don’t want mom and pops to lose capitol/inventory/their space. Fuck all the major chains and big box stores and the like. They make more off of the lives of the same disenfranchised people than we could ever comprehend.
I understand my bias but things are going to continue to get worse until They listen.
you're "from" Detroit? ok...i've lived in the city for over 30 years so it would be funny if we actually know each other...probably not though...
...even funnier, is, did you really just give me an ultimatum? do i need to choose a side--like there's only two? if you're actually "from" the city, then you know how many poor and working people in the 130-some square miles of the neighborhoods outside of downtown, want more efficiency and accountability from the police, but definitely want the police.
do i sound like i do not understand why cities are--and have--been burning in response to police brutality? but thanks for explaining that nonetheless.
and was that esoteric Puleo comment meant for me, because if so, you need to explain....
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Crazy how property damage is considered not to be the correct response for murder, but murder is considered the correct response for property damage.
Allen, i know you're quoting someone else here and that this is directed at the unfortunately large body of malignant Americans who think that protecting property is ever a reason to kill another human being (i completely disagree), but nevertheless, for those of us who have forced ourselves to sit through break-downs of these fucked events (not just the one above in this thread, but the one in the New York Times too), i have to ask, who was murdered because of “property damage”?
i wish all of the young people involved would have stayed home that night, with all of my heart i do. unfortunately though, the people directly involved had traveled to Kenosha for their--very--different reasons. i’m yet to see any footage showing that the actual shooting broke out as a reaction to either Anthony Huber or Joseph Rosenbaum simply “damaging property.”
the FIRST fucking thing that Jacob Blake’s mom did when first speaking publicly is adamantly distance her son and her family from the rioting, destruction, and looting supposedly being done in his name, and i do not blame her. the fact that this conversation is now about all of these other people and all of these other events says everything about how completely lost the actual victims of racist police brutality become in the chaos that follows these days.
the destruction and looting is not changing anyone’s mind on the “other side” (quite the opposite in fact) and the family wants nothing to do with it, so what was the objective that night? catharsis for the protestors?
in my years of university teaching, in a number of my classes where we have dealt with what went down in Detroit in 1967, i have always approached it from the perspective that it was a “rebellion,” and not a “riot,” and i will continue to do so. the people who took part in it were actually FROM the city itself and were reacting to unbearable conditions to which THEY were directly subject. (in the past months, i am proud that in the city of Detroit, the protestors have tried to remain peaceful and nothing has been destroyed, which has simply worked to emphasize and illuminate when/how the police are being especially draconian.)
this is not the case with many of the white kids taking part in the riots and looting that otherwise peaceful protests have been declining into at night in the past months. and i’m not just talking about the white kids that drive from other cities--i’m talking about some of the privileged, gentrifying hypocrites destroying businesses and looting, who can just up and leave once there’s nowhere to get groceries, medication, etc....unlike all of the poor, elderly, and disabled people stranded in these burnt out and destroyed neighborhoods in which they’ve lived all or most of their lives, and who are being left with nowhere to buy food and nowhere to get the medication they need, and who can’t even get on public transit to go somewhere else, because it has been interrupted due to the destruction.
i disagree as much with burning down grocery stores and pharmacies and medical-supply stores that poor, old, and disabled people depend upon for their very lives, as i do with ANYONE bringing a gun to a place/situation that one knows is going to be volatile and out of control...
Cool, I’m from Detroit. That was a rebellion. Glad we have that out of the way.
The two in Kenosha were murdered by a privileged white kid who had a ride from his mother into a different state to ‘protect property,’ presumably from property damage.
With all due respect you cannot play both sides the way you are. There is a certain point where you must decide what is worth it. I’m not pro burning shit down but I understand why these things happen - protesting does not work. Nothing has changed since Floyd, or Breona Taylor, or Elijah McClain and up until yesterday an innocent man, already permanently maimed by the police supposed to protect and serve the public, was hand cuffed to a hospital bed and cops were refusing to explain why - violating his rights.
I can part with some buildings and property* in order for serious change to happen. People are literally being told “your lives don’t matter.” These people are fucking livid, and rightly so. The police are clearly working with hate groups and attacking peaceful protestors around the country and more people are showing up demanding things change. Yeah, I wish there weren’t protests either because I wish things weren’t like this.
This shit shouldn’t be political. Police should not be able to kill citizens. Police shouldn’t be aiding and thanking murderers. The self defense argument doesn’t work either: if columbine had happened in 2020 and a student In a Bernie shirt rushed Klebold and Harris during columbine and got shot, they’d argue the kid had it coming. Shoulda stayed home that day. Shouldn’t have rushed a guy with a gun.
*i don’t want mom and pops to lose capitol/inventory/their space. Fuck all the major chains and big box stores and the like. They make more off of the lives of the same disenfranchised people than we could ever comprehend.
I understand my bias but things are going to continue to get worse until They listen.
you're "from" Detroit? ok...i've lived in the city for over 30 years so it would be funny if we actually know each other...probably not though...
...even funnier, is, did you really just give me an ultimatum? do i need to choose a side--like there's only two? if you're actually "from" the city, then you know how many poor and working people in the 130-some square miles of the neighborhoods outside of downtown, want more efficiency and accountability from the police, but definitely want the police.
do i sound like i do not understand why cities are--and have--been burning in response to police brutality? but thanks for explaining that nonetheless.
and was that esoteric Puleo comment meant for me, because if so, you need to explain....
Esoteric Puleo is a great name for an Instagram account or something. I meant that you were implying where people can and cannot join a protest.
I doubt we know each other. I’m from and live just outside of the city and have seen what Illitch and Gilbert have done to it.
I understand there’s a certain need for police, I’ll give you that. I believe the 1033 program needs to be repealed. I believe that there needs to be serious defunding and redistribution of funds to places that have been absolutely gutted in the last few decades.
I feel like we have relatively the same beliefs on everything.
What do you propose we do then? Nothing is being done.
I’m realizing that I’m essentially arguing with someone that I agree with most of their core position. I took your original statement about wishing everyone had stayed home as meaning you wished they hadn’t protested.
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Ever wonder how people went along and justified support for the actual the Nazis back in the day despite how batshit psychopathic they were?
Now you know.
I’ve been thinking about this a lot lately and it’s really disheartening to see the amount of people who would follow along in a similar situation. I had an old co worker today try to call Kyle a hero and referred to blm as thugs/ rioters. It just blows my mind..
I was thinking along these same lines this week and the events of the past few months have convinced me that most Germans were probably just assholes.
Recently an anti-racism scholar was being interviewed (I'm blanking on their name and the program... maybe it was PBS NewsHour?) and they commented on how after teaching little kids a class about the Underground Railroad, they would then ask the classroom to raise their hand if they believe they would have been a part of the UR during those times. Of course, most, if not all, the kids raised their hands. The interviewee would then say something along the lines of "Do you really think so? Because if all of you would have been a part of it, it would not have been underground..." It is actually pretty scary to think that the time and space in which we live and grow can have such an influence...
A friend once told me: "In a few years, our generation(s) will be looked down upon for how we currently deal with homelessness as a society." It stuck with me—how am I interacting with homeless and/or mentally ill people? What else am I "going along with" these days? Actively seeking social- and self-awareness is not easy, but it is a must for all of us if we want to live authentically these days :/
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Crazy how property damage is considered not to be the correct response for murder, but murder is considered the correct response for property damage.
Allen, i know you're quoting someone else here and that this is directed at the unfortunately large body of malignant Americans who think that protecting property is ever a reason to kill another human being (i completely disagree), but nevertheless, for those of us who have forced ourselves to sit through break-downs of these fucked events (not just the one above in this thread, but the one in the New York Times too), i have to ask, who was murdered because of “property damage”?
i wish all of the young people involved would have stayed home that night, with all of my heart i do. unfortunately though, the people directly involved had traveled to Kenosha for their--very--different reasons. i’m yet to see any footage showing that the actual shooting broke out as a reaction to either Anthony Huber or Joseph Rosenbaum simply “damaging property.”
the FIRST fucking thing that Jacob Blake’s mom did when first speaking publicly is adamantly distance her son and her family from the rioting, destruction, and looting supposedly being done in his name, and i do not blame her. the fact that this conversation is now about all of these other people and all of these other events says everything about how completely lost the actual victims of racist police brutality become in the chaos that follows these days.
the destruction and looting is not changing anyone’s mind on the “other side” (quite the opposite in fact) and the family wants nothing to do with it, so what was the objective that night? catharsis for the protestors?
in my years of university teaching, in a number of my classes where we have dealt with what went down in Detroit in 1967, i have always approached it from the perspective that it was a “rebellion,” and not a “riot,” and i will continue to do so. the people who took part in it were actually FROM the city itself and were reacting to unbearable conditions to which THEY were directly subject. (in the past months, i am proud that in the city of Detroit, the protestors have tried to remain peaceful and nothing has been destroyed, which has simply worked to emphasize and illuminate when/how the police are being especially draconian.)
this is not the case with many of the white kids taking part in the riots and looting that otherwise peaceful protests have been declining into at night in the past months. and i’m not just talking about the white kids that drive from other cities--i’m talking about some of the privileged, gentrifying hypocrites destroying businesses and looting, who can just up and leave once there’s nowhere to get groceries, medication, etc....unlike all of the poor, elderly, and disabled people stranded in these burnt out and destroyed neighborhoods in which they’ve lived all or most of their lives, and who are being left with nowhere to buy food and nowhere to get the medication they need, and who can’t even get on public transit to go somewhere else, because it has been interrupted due to the destruction.
i disagree as much with burning down grocery stores and pharmacies and medical-supply stores that poor, old, and disabled people depend upon for their very lives, as i do with ANYONE bringing a gun to a place/situation that one knows is going to be volatile and out of control...
Cool, I’m from Detroit. That was a rebellion. Glad we have that out of the way.
The two in Kenosha were murdered by a privileged white kid who had a ride from his mother into a different state to ‘protect property,’ presumably from property damage.
With all due respect you cannot play both sides the way you are. There is a certain point where you must decide what is worth it. I’m not pro burning shit down but I understand why these things happen - protesting does not work. Nothing has changed since Floyd, or Breona Taylor, or Elijah McClain and up until yesterday an innocent man, already permanently maimed by the police supposed to protect and serve the public, was hand cuffed to a hospital bed and cops were refusing to explain why - violating his rights.
I can part with some buildings and property* in order for serious change to happen. People are literally being told “your lives don’t matter.” These people are fucking livid, and rightly so. The police are clearly working with hate groups and attacking peaceful protestors around the country and more people are showing up demanding things change. Yeah, I wish there weren’t protests either because I wish things weren’t like this.
This shit shouldn’t be political. Police should not be able to kill citizens. Police shouldn’t be aiding and thanking murderers. The self defense argument doesn’t work either: if columbine had happened in 2020 and a student In a Bernie shirt rushed Klebold and Harris during columbine and got shot, they’d argue the kid had it coming. Shoulda stayed home that day. Shouldn’t have rushed a guy with a gun.
*i don’t want mom and pops to lose capitol/inventory/their space. Fuck all the major chains and big box stores and the like. They make more off of the lives of the same disenfranchised people than we could ever comprehend.
I understand my bias but things are going to continue to get worse until They listen.
you're "from" Detroit? ok...i've lived in the city for over 30 years so it would be funny if we actually know each other...probably not though...
...even funnier, is, did you really just give me an ultimatum? do i need to choose a side--like there's only two? if you're actually "from" the city, then you know how many poor and working people in the 130-some square miles of the neighborhoods outside of downtown, want more efficiency and accountability from the police, but definitely want the police.
do i sound like i do not understand why cities are--and have--been burning in response to police brutality? but thanks for explaining that nonetheless.
and was that esoteric Puleo comment meant for me, because if so, you need to explain....
Esoteric Puleo is a great name for an Instagram account or something. I meant that you were implying where people can and cannot join a protest.
I doubt we know each other. I’m from and live just outside of the city and have seen what Illitch and Gilbert have done to it.
I understand there’s a certain need for police, I’ll give you that. I believe the 1033 program needs to be repealed. I believe that there needs to be serious defunding and redistribution of funds to places that have been absolutely gutted in the last few decades.
I feel like we have relatively the same beliefs on everything.
What do you propose we do then? Nothing is being done.
I’m realizing that I’m essentially arguing with someone that I agree with most of their core position. I took your original statement about wishing everyone had stayed home as meaning you wished they hadn’t protested.
it's been a long day in front of the computer preparing the two classes that i'm teaching at Wayne State this semester, which start this week, and i'm about to tune out, so i'm not even going to begin to try to take on what i "propose we do." i saw you commented again and just wanted to respond in kind so things didn't end nasty seeming today...i appreciate your last comment, and i too think we're aligned in most ways.
i am 100% behind the protests, i'm just afraid that with all of the spectacle and distraction that follows from the fire and looting, the real focus is lost--and i often worry that all of the well-meaning voices trying to contribute to the conversation are confusing a conversation that should really only be occurring between black communities, the government (at different levels), and the police...i guess...for now...
edit: i agree, now that you mention it, that Esoteric Puleo does seem like it needs to be the title of something
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Who are these fucking kooks posting here that are worried about property destruction and are siding with a gun-wielding bootlicker over a skater? Are you in the right place? This is a skateboarding forum.
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It sucks that everything is divisive bullshit these days. Cant we all just get along? :'(
It's really fucking good, its called separating good from bad. I don't wanna get allong with anyone that thinks that shit like this is okay.
word.
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http://youtu.be/fK1zIz3FrKs
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There’s literally a troll on here named “Kyle fan” shitting it up on the RIP thread, there’s some sick fuckers on this site man.
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http://youtu.be/fK1zIz3FrKs
Here’s another one where the little bitch got what he deserved.
https://mobile.twitter.com/anoncatanoncat/status/1299820632604135425
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Wow. Good to be made aware that Ricky Schroder is a gigantic piece of shit.
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Wow. Good to be made aware that Ricky Schroder is a gigantic piece of shit.
He’s acting like he was born with a Silver Spoon in his mouth, or something.
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:-X ::)