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Skateboarding => Shoes & Gear => Topic started by: Arto Saari on September 16, 2020, 12:01:39 PM
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Post your shoe design concepts in here!
Skate or otherwise, all are welcome.
Here's the 'cultivar', a cupsole option designed for last resort. Enjoy!
(https://i.ibb.co/hFXsh7v/last-resort-DIV-1-01-01-01.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/85vG2DQ/last-resort-DIV-2-02-02.png)(https://i.ibb.co/Gdgz75b/last-resort-DIV-3-03-03-03.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/dcZFvbn/last-resort-DIV-4-04-04.png)
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The color combinations look outstanding
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aerobix, peach fuzz, and mystery house are hot colorways
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@Arto Saari I’m curious on what materials you’d ideally use. Like is the inside of the shoe a different material than the rest. Like on the pink one is the black canvas or something?
Also looks good I hope this thread gets you a check or internship that leads to bigger things or something.
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What's up yall. Thanks for the kind words. I like the colorways a lot too, Aerobix being my personal favorite. Believe it or not, most of the colorways I had sucked until like 15 minutes before I posted these.. I felt I had to come correct for the slap gang so I took one last one last gamble and ended up getting lucky on a few.
@merge Bingo. The colored panels would be a thick,hairy suede (or maybe a synthetic for the vegan crew) and the black part would be canvas or another textile. Its paneled in a way to give you more layers for protection on the lateral side, while omitting them on the medial side to make the shoe more flexible. I was originally referencing the makaha radial a little bit. A late 70's skate shoe made from nylon and suede. I love how nylon feels next to suede and vice versa, but unfortunately its cumbersome and not breathable.. so yeah, probably canvas.
(https://i.ibb.co/v3GvLdT/makaha.jpg)
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Its Thirsty Thursday, baby
Today we have another shoe from emerica called the 'Glint'. An attempt to take some subtle flavor cues from the late 90s, and make them less late 90's esque (?)
Also if the thread starts f*cking up again lmk and ill try and make the files smaller
(https://i.ibb.co/pymjrLb/Glint-DIV-1-01.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/74CSYVh/Glint-DIV-2-02.png)(https://i.ibb.co/Fz0mTHT/Glint-DIV-3-03.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/FzV9XTD/Glint-DIV-4-04.png)
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That looks like the spiritual successor to the Herman G6, and I love it.
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Its Thirsty Thursday, baby
Today we have another shoe from emerica called the 'Glint'. An attempt to take some subtle flavor cues from the late 90s, and make them less late 90's esque (?)
Also if the thread starts f*cking up again lmk and ill try and make the files smaller
(https://i.ibb.co/pymjrLb/Glint-DIV-1-01.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/74CSYVh/Glint-DIV-2-02.png)(https://i.ibb.co/Fz0mTHT/Glint-DIV-3-03.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/FzV9XTD/Glint-DIV-4-04.png)
brooo keep making these
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Idk why the fuck Emerica doesn't hire this guy, fire the whole staff and let Arto in charge so the shoes can finally stop sucking balls
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Arto, I think you should point out the different materials on the outsole. Where is it durable rubber, where is it exposed midsole foam? Especially on the Glint. Is that outsole all rubber? Because I think some areas of non-rubber would help flexibility and give you some color contrast options.
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Idk why the fuck Emerica doesn't hire this guy, fire the whole staff and let Arto in charge so the shoes can finally stop sucking balls
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Thanks for the kind words guys.
And @frothy thank you for the feedback. In this particular instance the sole is all rubber. Some exposed midsole foam areas would definitely make these less clunky, but unfortunately that wasn't a priority for me on this design. I do have some designs with exposed midsoles though, and ill try and make sure that comes through in the drawings
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I was definitely thinking that shoe had Creager vibes even before the gif. Well done, again! Not my cup of tea, but that should be anyone buying eS shoes in 2020’s.
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These are probably my favorite Arto shoe and colorway. Reposting for good measure.
(https://i.imgur.com/nS9AQAc.jpeg)
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I really hope last resort buys that design wow
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Friday.
Today we have the 'photon'. Techy eS sh*t for those who are into that, but not into the rugby ball shaped reissues without airbags they currently offer.
Everstitch upper with suede (or synthetic) vamp and heel. Synthetic overlays, rubber ollie thing, etc, etc.
dual density misdole (carrier foam housing a proprietary blend), maybe even a little gel pad on the footbed ::)
Tell it to me straight
(https://i.ibb.co/9HqFZxC/photon-Div-1-01-01.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/Q9ZBF0j/photon-div-2-02.png)
Inspired by this
(https://media.giphy.com/media/kDypvAQ3Jyqy5CUEAG/giphy.gif)
I'm into this, and I don't remember the "golden era" so you're doing something right. The contrast stitching near the heel is a bit much for my taste, but overall I adore the concept. Taking inspiration from your own pro models is a bit cheap tho... ::)
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Damn, I wish I was as talented as you Arto! I'd absolutely rock any and all of your designs/colorways.
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Damn. Someone give this man a job. I would willingly empty my pockets for a lot of these.
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Inspired by this
(https://media.giphy.com/media/kDypvAQ3Jyqy5CUEAG/giphy.gif)
I’d kill for those Creagers.
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I really hope last resort buys that design wow
Looks infinitely better than the actual designs they use imo
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Thanks for the kind words pals.
@FROTHY Those shoes and that color now belong to you. I willfully yield all ownership.
@Manny Fapuiao Again, thank you. The talent was not cheap, and unfortunately the only accepted currency was time. endless amounts of time.
@Wonderful Whizzplank Glad to hear your into it. Believe it or not, the 'golden era' predates me as well. I was born in 1994 so I just barely caught the end of it in my early childhood. As for the self reference, I can promise you it wont be the last time ;)
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Hope yall had a good weekend.
This week starts us off with a 3-part project from eS which I've dubbed the 'Genesis' collection. Heavily inspired by the aesthetic of eS before the debut of the koston 1. Not quite athletic, but still highly stylized, this era of eS had a really unique feel to it that has since been absent not only in skateboarding, but in footwear design as a whole.
Part 1. The ethos. Pretty straight forward design wise. The tread pattern would probably be pebble mania, but I guess you cant win em' all..
Enjoy!
(https://i.ibb.co/Z6n3R9m/es-ethos1-01.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/SfNwbyn/es-ethos2-02.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/fNFKcqv/es-ethos3-03.png)
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Those Ethos are sick. I'd skate the shit out of those. They give me the old 90's eS vibe and even a little bit of the Koston 6.
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The thoughtfulness of your designs is appreciated. Can't help but think the budget for a lot of these models who blow what's normally allotted out of the water. Have you considered existing vulc/cup outsoles with revised (better) uppers?
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The thoughtfulness of your designs is appreciated. Can't help but think the budget for a lot of these models who blow what's normally allotted out of the water. Have you considered existing vulc/cup outsoles with revised (better) uppers?
Thanks, the details are what make the design. but you're absolutely right that all of these shoes would be really expensive to produce. The stuff I'm sharing now is mostly just a reflection of what I'm into.. essentially a best case scenario fantasy of what I want out of a skate shoe. At this point, I'm basically my own creative director so I tend to go balls-to-the-wall, no-limits on the design just to satisfy my own personal tastes.
I definitely can do vulcs and more subdued designs that use existing tooling, but since its not as exciting and I'm not getting paid for any of my projects, Id rather just explore for myself for the time being. That being said, all the work I'm sharing now is a few months old so I'm just trying to purge all of it before I move on to new stuff. I have a few vulc options and a ton of high fashion skate cupsoles that need to go through illustrator, as well as other random personal footwear design stuff, but its all a process. So much work, so little time :-\
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(https://i.ibb.co/1s1L905/4-A4-D2475-E60-A-4-D83-A782-780-D5-F72039-B.jpg)
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Dude, that subtle 95 detail on the tongue is sublime.
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Thanks to everyone who liked the ethos. Everyone else.. ya dead to me.
Part 2 of the Genesis collection brings us the 'Serif'. This design is inspired directly by 3 eS shoes from the time period of reference; the 'contour', the 'solist', and the 'ethalon'.
All my fellow lace loop enthusiasts know that not being able to properly lace a shoe because of a ripped lace loop is annoying. To remedy this, the loops don't need to be threaded through the eyelets where they are left exposed. You can lace the shoes internally using the same loops. Of course, leaving the loops exposed makes the shoes look way more 'ill' and ultimately conveys a more IDGAFIIRMLL (I don't give a f*ck if I rip my lace loops) attitude, which is totally fresh.
LMK
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That t-toe on the serif is sick! I don’t think I’ve ever seen one like that. And the lace loops!
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At a certain point I feel like we should just all invest in Arto to make slap brand shoes. These designs are better than 99% of what’s in the upcoming threads. I would skate everything in this thread.
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amazing. what's the over/under on how long it takes for one of these designs to get poached by sole tech?
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I'm not totally feeling Arto's designs, but I feel like a big part of that is the drawings. It's hard to see a real shoe. Even the more subdued designs look a bit too wild for me, but again, maybe that's just due to viewing them as a 2d drawing. Dude is clearly an actual designer and I definitely give him the respect for that. I like to mock up shoes too but I'm just a very amateur photoshop hack so it's not at all the same as doing proper spec sheets.
Arto - have you tried using real images of shoes to photoshop mock ups together? That's what I did when I designed some for fun. I used photos of a Reebok Workout, Emerica Figgy, and Es' Accel Slim Plus to make my own dream Emerica shoe.
I just call this one the Corona, for obvious reasons. I'd skate the fuck out of these. I like more classic, simple desings.
(https://i.imgur.com/HqhoCky.jpg)
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Hey @Glurmpz thanks for the feedback. I could see how my drawings can be kind of straining to look at due to the lack of contrast and depth. My style is very 2D. I purposely omit shadows and highlights for my own stupid reasons.. And although my shapes are intentional and highly considered, Its also very possible that my proportions are impossible and my drawings are complete lies.
As for using photoshop to chop shoes together, I have not done it and I’m not sure I ever will, mostly because it just doesn’t fit into my workflow. I always start on paper so I can ideate and explore quickly, then when I find something I like, I take a picture and go straight to illustrator.
I think the main thing is that we just have very different tastes. The stuff I’m sharing now is very 90s, and in general, I like my skate shoes to look unapologetically ‘skate’. Based on your mockups you like a more modern and clean style with a hint of ‘skate’. I like that kind of stuff as well, but more for chilling off the board. I, too, have an emerica dream shoe concept that I'll be sharing soon and its essentially the polar opposite of what you made. Those are clean mockups though. It would probably take me all day to make those in photoshop. They're are not my style personally, but I could see people liking them. I also see that og ellington colorway 8)
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Thirsty Thursday… again. Sorry to keep you guys waiting
Today we have the ‘celeste’, the third and final installment from the Genesis collection.
Based on the legendary status of the SLB mid, I knew I needed a mid-top shoe in the collection. Over the course of the design process, these unintentionally took on an air jordan X vibe with the wavy panel on the side. I guess it’s a moment of synergy considering the SLB took cues from the air jordan IX.
This one is super hot. These they would have to pay me for..
(https://i.ibb.co/9YPg6HZ/e-S-celeste-1-01.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/ZKSfKqX/e-S-celeste-2-02.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/J5ytxyp/e-S-celeste-3-03.png)
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Arto, I really like that Genesis collection. I started skating the year you were born so really love the look of those early day eS shoes. I'm definitely not one of those "Golden Era" dudes though. I don't want to skate some clunky garbage they used to make. Not sure I would rock stuff that you design, but I think you're designing stuff way better than they are making.
Even though I gave it to you in the other thread for posting them, I am definitely enjoying the designs in a proper thread.
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Hey Watson, I'm glad you like the genesis stuff. Its nice to hear that it resonates with someone who experienced that era first hand. I’m definitely stoked on certain aspects of the ‘golden era’, but I’m certainly not one of those people who has dedicated their life to flexing all of their old gear on Instagram and preaching to “bring back the puff, bro”... not to say I don’t have a dope collection of stuff from that era, but that’s all for me. I feel It gives me credibility as a designer.
But I’m with you 100% on not wanting to skate the clunky garbage they used to make. I think all of the recent eS retros are incredibly.. unfortunate.. I wouldn’t be caught dead in a single pair. All of my designs are intended to feel like a skate shoe in 2020, but with the design quality that was present in the late 90s. Original harmonies, with a substantial physical quality, yet nimble overall. No more clunky reissues!
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♫ It's Just another manic Monday ♫
Today we have the 'Aspect'. This is me being really selfish as a designer and creating exactly what I want out of a cupsole shoe. I'm fully prepared to accept the fact that no one else would wear these.
The aspect is supposed to feel like an emerica shoe from 1999 in terms of substance and quality, but rather than being a poorly translated retro-inspired design, these would feel like a modern day continuation of the philosophy of late 90s skateboard footwear design.
30% less padding, and built on a sleeker more modern last. (a low profile, somewhat pointy toe, and a slightly elongated vamp). Layered paneling and an authentic rubber toe cap. None of that cheap, screened on bullsh*t!
And just as a bonus, a FREE extra pair of laces with every pair! (Holy Sh*t!!)
"All I wanna know is, who's coming with me?.."
(https://i.ibb.co/KrPnDSt/aspect-for-web-01.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/NZChzxs/aspect-for-web-02.png)(https://i.ibb.co/McjpKm9/aspect-for-web-03.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/TBW3C7B/aspect-for-web-04.png)
That concludes all of my 90s style, branded cupsole designs. The next time I share something it will be a vulc with my own branding.
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♫ It's Just another manic Monday ♫
Today we have the 'Aspect'. This is me being really selfish as a designer and creating exactly what I want out of a cupsole shoe. I'm fully prepared to accept the fact that no one else would wear these.
The aspect is supposed to feel like an emerica shoe from 1999 in terms of substance and quality, but rather than being a poorly translated retro-inspired design, these would feel like a modern day continuation of the philosophy of late 90s skateboard footwear design.
30% less padding, and built on a sleeker more modern last. (a low profile, somewhat pointy toe, and a slightly elongated vamp). Layered paneling and an authentic rubber toe cap. None of that cheap, screened on bullsh*t!
And just as a bonus, a FREE extra pair of laces with every pair! (Holy Sh*t!!)
"All I wanna know is, who's coming with me?.."
(https://i.ibb.co/KrPnDSt/aspect-for-web-01.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/NZChzxs/aspect-for-web-02.png)(https://i.ibb.co/McjpKm9/aspect-for-web-03.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/TBW3C7B/aspect-for-web-04.png)
That concludes all of my 90s style, branded cupsole designs. The next time I share something it will be a vulc with my own branding.
Loving your ideas, definitely better than what es is churning out. I get so excited when I hear they are dropping re-releases and they are completely dumpster fires.
This shoe in particular I would buy many of. Reminds me of a cross between Reynolds and Templeton.
Kelly or Don.... If you are reading this.... HIRE THIS GUY TO MAKE SOME WEARABLE SHOES!
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@Pugmaster Thanks for the compliments. I, too, am left disenchanted every time eS leaks a new catalog.. I am equally disappointed when emerica releases new cupsole shoes that are designed to look like vulc shoes. Part of the reason I don't wear vulc shoes is because I don't like how they look.. why would I buy a cupsole shoe that looks exactly the same?
But you nailed it on the head. This is supposed to look like a cross between the Reynolds 1 and Templeton 1. The Reynolds is a personal favorite for me, but the Templeton is an underrated masterpiece of footwear design imo. Incredibly clean and sophisticated even to this day.. they also look amazing on film and in photos
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/GTJ11112gN8VfOzKix/giphy.gif)
(https://noneco.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/saarikffsbdchrome.jpg)
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where'd you learn how to do all of this? this looks way too professional/legit to just be on the slap message boards haha
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one of those people who has dedicated their life to flexing all of their old gear on Instagram and preaching to “bring back the puff, bro”
I fucking hate those people.
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I like the Aspect. Looks fun. 4 visible branding elements are a bit much though. nice work
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Loving the Templeton 1 vibes, that shoe got a lot of love back in the day for good reason; it looked great and skated really well. Also was fairly slim when compared to everything else that was coming out at the time!
I’d rock basically every shoe you’ve designed and love that you also mention that there’d be a vegan/ synth version of each model.
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The aspect looks great. I find myself buying big brands to get a slimmer cupsole but I would much rather skate a smaller core brand. I started skating in 2000 so these designs resonate with me but also look fresh. I get bummed that I hate everything the brands I grew up with are doing. I feel like these would hit real hard right now by harking back to that era without being a reissue. Some times reissues are just a bizarro version of the original or the original just doesn’t look as good today. I like the idea of pulling inspiration but making something new.
TL:DR I like them. Would buy.
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@sus I’m self-taught. I’ve been pursuing footwear design with the intention of doing it for a living for about 10 years now. I also don’t live in SoCal, nor do I know anyone in the industry, so the only option I have is to grind like a maniac and hope it all works out.
@Watson the ‘bring back the puff’ dudes might be the worst demographic in skateboarding. Unfortunately, the kind folks at eS seem to worship and bow down to them..
@jay_nev thanks, glad you like them. The logo on the midsole probably wouldn’t make it to production, so let’s call it 3 visual branding elements 8)
@Gay Imp Sausage Metal The Templeton 1 is incredible. My take is no where near as good as the OG, but I’m glad you’re a fan! I could draw shoes everyday for the next 50 years and I’m not sure I’d ever be able to come up with a skate shoe design that looks as good. Aside from the primitive execution, they’re flawless.
As for the vegan/synth stuff… We flew a monkey to outer space... it should be no problem to make at least 1 vegan friendly colorway of each design. I'm not vegan myself, but I wouldn’t mind raking in the cash from you guys ::)
@Eggie Vedder this is exactly what I’m talking about. I also started skating in 2000. I was 5 years old so I didn’t know sh*t, but I always thought the shoes were f*cking DOPE when we went to the skate shop. To see what the core brands have been making for the last 15 years in comparison is just plain disheartening.
I’m fine with vulc shoes, I don’t skate them personally, but I’m fine with them existing as long as there are options for the rest of us. I do, however, have a big problem with the whole reissue thing.. They’re spending crazy amounts of money on tooling etc, but they’re not adding anything new to the culture. All we get is a bastardized version of a shoe from 20 years ago. So basically, 20 years from now, the current generation of kids are supposed to be nostalgic about the same shoes that the old dudes were nostalgic about 40 years prior?? That’s selfish as f*ck. Give the kids their own silhouettes to obsess over 20 years from now. Let skateboarding do its part to further the discussion, and define the aesthetic of footwear in street culture as it once did.
TL/DR: We’re on the same page. I’m glad you like my designs
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I know I said the next time I share something it would be a vulc, but I don’t have anything I want to share at this time, and I'd hate to leave this thread with a wall of text, so here is a behind the scenes look at how the process begins for me. Printer paper and a sharpie pen. This is an early look at an axion shoe concept I might pursue if you guys think its worth my time. By ‘you guys’ I mean whoever is running the axion relaunch. Time
for some AXION to get paid!
(https://i.ibb.co/82Rs9Rt/IMG-20201005-133217.jpg)