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Title: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Garbagecomplex on October 26, 2020, 02:55:21 PM
I got the scumco team broadcast deck. It’s my favorite deck I’ve ever had. It’s verry very mellow. Nearly flat concave. Super mellow nose and tail. Most decks have very steep noses and I hate it. I tried the baker og but it feels like the kicks are lower to the ground than the middle of the deck. It’s weird. I’m just looking for the flattest mellowest decks. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 26, 2020, 04:12:23 PM
What size board do you ride?

Do you mean the Baker flexed out or was soggy?  I have had boards that feel flexed out, but they are usually the more mellow concaves on the market.

There is always the drive over it or park on it overnight which works too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVv53BA-vUc
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Gabagoolslide on October 26, 2020, 05:34:47 PM
Imagine starting a thread about flat decks on slap in 2020
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: TwisT on October 26, 2020, 07:05:58 PM
https://pointdistribution.com/custom_skateboard/

their mellow shape is the flattest shit I've skated since highschool. I fucking hated it. but some people like flat boards

DOA flat as fuck concave seems to be popular
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Garbagecomplex on October 26, 2020, 07:21:49 PM
What size board do you ride?

Do you mean the Baker flexed out or was soggy?  I have had boards that feel flexed out, but they are usually the more mellow concaves on the market.

There is always the drive over it or park on it overnight which works too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVv53BA-vUc



I’ve been skating 8.25s thinking of sizing up. The baker seemed fine. It was mellow and flat and I might have to keep skating them. Most decks from the side are a straight line then at the kicks it dips down then comes up to make the kick. The baker dipped down a lot and then was mellow. So when I skated it my back foot always felt closer to the ground than my front foot.

The scumco deck from the side doesn’t really dip down before the kicks. There’s not really pockets on the deck. 3 fingers of flat on the nose and the tail. It’s perfect

I just didn’t know if there’s brands that are making stuff like that. Quasi is hit or miss because the steep nose. There’s a lot of brands I hsvnt tried and woodshops change. Like flips used to be flat but are they still?
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Garbagecomplex on October 26, 2020, 07:23:20 PM
https://pointdistribution.com/custom_skateboard/

their mellow shape is the flattest shit I've skated since highschool. I fucking hated it. but some people like flat boards

DOA flat as fuck concave seems to be popular


Oh fuck yeah. Thanks. I’ve been looking sonething like this
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: backinaction on October 26, 2020, 07:36:44 PM
https://pointdistribution.com/custom_skateboard/

their mellow shape is the flattest shit I've skated since highschool. I fucking hated it. but some people like flat boards

 Point Distribution Mellow = approximate 19.25°nose and 18.5°tail with a medium center concave.

Powell K20 decks have mellower kicks  = 18°nose and 18°tail
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Garbagecomplex on October 26, 2020, 08:24:48 PM
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https://pointdistribution.com/custom_skateboard/

their mellow shape is the flattest shit I've skated since highschool. I fucking hated it. but some people like flat boards
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 Point Distribution Mellow = approximate 19.25°nose and 18.5°tail with a medium center concave.

Powell K20 decks have mellower kicks  = 18°nose and 18°tail


I actually did try a k20. I didn’t skate it much. Was bummed that the concave in general was more medium. The kicks were a good angle though. Should set it up again but I felt like the wood was kinda garbage. I might try to heat it and clamp it to flatten it out to try again
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: shitsandwich on October 26, 2020, 08:27:53 PM
Why do people like mellow boards?
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 26, 2020, 09:12:28 PM

I’ve been skating 8.25s thinking of sizing up. The baker seemed fine. It was mellow and flat and I might have to keep skating them. Most decks from the side are a straight line then at the kicks it dips down then comes up to make the kick. The baker dipped down a lot and then was mellow. So when I skated it my back foot always felt closer to the ground than my front foot.

The scumco deck from the side doesn’t really dip down before the kicks. There’s not really pockets on the deck. 3 fingers of flat on the nose and the tail. It’s perfect

I just didn’t know if there’s brands that are making stuff like that. Quasi is hit or miss because the steep nose. There’s a lot of brands I hsvnt tried and woodshops change. Like flips used to be flat but are they still?

The best thing would be going somewhere you can stand on a lot of boards, but as that is not always an easy option, some places will have details and concave angles, heights, etc (as was said by TwisT)

Already noted too that one company might have a "mellow" board which will actually still be steeper than another company regular board, so the stand on them would be easiest to feel them out.

As for sizes, I know a lot of the 8 feel flat to me, then 8.25 feel fairly good overall with decent concave, then a lot of the 8.38 size actually feel flatter for some reason and the 8.5 are again fairly good, but this is going by riding a lot of Real decks (same as Krooked, Antihero, Baker, etc)

Brands that I feel have less concave besides Baker also include Passport, Magenta, USA made Toy Machine and others I will add when I can stand on a few more boards.

The parking the car on the end of a board overnight really does flatten out the kick of a deck too, so you can always just do the nose if it feels too steep.  I tried it and it does work.  Just put something under the board so it is not just on concrete garage floor.

Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: backinaction on October 26, 2020, 09:41:54 PM
Why do people like mellow boards?

I didn't - but now I do.

I skated mostly medium and steeper concaves for a long time.  I picked up a couple of the K20 Mini Logo decks (8 and 8.5) because they were stupid cheap - around $28 for the pair.  I built them up, tried them a few times, decided they were too flat and then skated my other setups. 

When covid hit and the skateparks were closed I spent a bunch more time doing flippy shit in parking lots - and it turns out I was landing a lot more consistently on the flat setups. 

I still have a steep/big setup for the park, but skate a flat setup on the street.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: rocklobster on October 26, 2020, 11:21:16 PM
Why do people like mellow boards?

Boards mellower kicks are more forgiving to pop. Steep kicks means you have to kick down harder before the nose and tail contact the ground because your nose / tail is pitched up higher. You much more vertical but at the expense of consistency and fatigue. Doing a half ass pop will result in ghost pop. So if you're legs are young and full of explosive strength then they are fun to skate. Found this out when I skated a Santa Cruz deck with steep kicks, consistency goes way down especially towards the end of the session when my legs are completely jelly.

In terms of concave I can only do medium to medium-steep, too much concave causes my foot to catch too much board during flips. Haven't skated a mellow / flat deck but could be worth a try, I have to do my kickflips with my deck reversed (pop off my tail, flick off my nose), because the wider nose catched too much of my foot, so maybe if I'll try one for that purpose alone.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Skatebeard on October 27, 2020, 03:18:23 AM
Girl/Chocolate decks are pretty chill, like you I prefer shallow kicks and mellow concave.

Really enjoying the G027 8.25. the 8" G008 and G045 are also similarly flat.

Magenta decks are reasonably mellow (i've skated their 7.75s and 8s), Jart also (though their graphics are pretty meh), Primitive also fairly flat (meh on those graphics too).

Steep kicks give me lower back pain, and i hate the feeling of my foot curving in steep concave...I'm 35, not 15 and full of energy and fitness like I was.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: jay_nev on October 27, 2020, 05:19:56 AM
So i've seen/heard the preference to use Ace on steep kicks to bring in wheelbase and help with mellowing out the pop angle.
What trucks are preferred with mellow decks? Fingers of flat obviously play a part as well.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Skatebeard on October 27, 2020, 07:03:05 AM
I like low/mid trucks on a flat deck because it makes for quicker pop and I can happily skate flatground for a couple of hours without tiring my legs out...I find the yield pretty good without having to work super hard.

Thunders or Venture lows on a 14" wheelbase with mellow concave and kicks are my go-to. Deck width between 7.75-8.25, I find any bigger wheelbase cuts into the fingers of flat and makes manuals harder.

Totally personal preference of course.



Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 27, 2020, 07:51:51 AM
The blue Scumco team from the broadcast series? I wouldn't really call it super mellow... it's more of a medium. There are two mellow-er decks from that run, the Downey and the Nicholson. Downey is very similar to a quasi, and I'm 99% sure the Nicholson is the toy machine mellow mold.

That team deck is one of my favorite decks ever though. If you want something similar then I'd stick with PS wood, Quasi 8.25 is always a good one and there's some 8.25 Snack decks that are almost identical to that scumco but they're really hard to find right now. I'd also recommend trying the 8.25 WKND shape (not the new VA or CT ones though), its slightly longer but has a similar feel in my opinion.

If you want something that's even mellower than that, south central E mold (DOA flat as fuck) are awesome but you have to be quick when they drop because they sell out fast. Politic used to do some decks on that mold too but they're apparently not using it anymore. The last one was the "pawns of babylon" graphic. Other mellow decks - blood wizard/maxallure 8.25 is a good one (PGI), most Girl/Chocolate decks, and the Watson made Toy Machine/Foundation decks are all good.

Alternatively, you can just sit tight for the moment because that 8.25 shape is what Nick (the owner and creative genius behind ScumCo) skates so it's going to be in every run going forward. Right now they're just waiting for PS to get their shit together and catch up from the covid delays, but there will be new PS scumcos coming hopefully soon.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: TumKayo on October 27, 2020, 07:59:24 AM
A lot of Toy Machine decks are pretty flat
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Noble Experiment on October 27, 2020, 08:01:43 AM
The Point decks I’ve had in their mellow shape still all had medium to steep tails and noses but there is almost no concave at all in the middle of the board, it’s flat as all hell; feels like you’re stepping on a 2x4. So yeah if that’s your thing then try one of those boards out. I don’t mind em once I get used to them.

I’m a pretty big fan of the OG baker shape actually; super mellow nose and tail, mellow concave in the middle, it just feels comfy to me.

Had a couple PS stix toy machines recently which were pretty damn flat that I liked; so flat that my friends would trip on me and ask me how I could ride that thing every time they saw it. Make sure when you get a toy that it’s the mellow concave tho, I’ve heard their steep concave shape is steep as all hell.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Ok on October 27, 2020, 08:24:52 AM
I like low/mid trucks on a flat deck because it makes for quicker pop and I can happily skate flatground for a couple of hours without tiring my legs out...I find the yield pretty good without having to work super hard.

Thunders or Venture lows on a 14" wheelbase with mellow concave and kicks are my go-to. Deck width between 7.75-8.25, I find any bigger wheelbase cuts into the fingers of flat and makes manuals harder.

Totally personal preference of course.

I also like thunders and ventures and flat boards. I would appreciate a recommendation for a 7.75”ish (less than 8”) deck, that is flat. 14” wb max. Please and thank you. Flatflatflat
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: TwisT on October 27, 2020, 08:34:42 AM
Point Dist decks
pink one is a DGK but the same size
The other one is PointDist (whom I'm pretty sure get wood from china if that matters to you)
(https://i.imgur.com/3avAopCl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sbslmHml.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Z59BWtEl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JuX3MAsl.jpg)

A literal plank.
I can't really give a fair review, because overall I hated the lack of concave so much. I rode it, just because I bought it. Mannies were on point. I was doing shuv nose manny variations easily.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Firebert on October 27, 2020, 08:43:33 AM
I like super mellow boards as well - Baker has a great mold for their mellow boards - but the pointy shapes can be a little off putting.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Ok on October 27, 2020, 09:15:17 AM
I like super mellow boards as well - Baker has a great mold for their mellow boards - but the pointy shapes can be a little off putting.

I like the pointy. Because I’m old. It looks right. Like an old Mariano or better yet Sheffey toy soldier
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Ok on October 27, 2020, 09:17:26 AM
Point Dist decks
pink one is a DGK but the same size
The other one is PointDist (whom I'm pretty sure get wood from china if that matters to you)
(https://i.imgur.com/3avAopCl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sbslmHml.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Z59BWtEl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JuX3MAsl.jpg)

A literal plank.
I can't really give a fair review, because overall I hated the lack of concave so much. I rode it, just because I bought it. Mannies were on point. I was doing shuv nose manny variations easily.

Damn! Thanks! China wood isn’t a favorite. But shapes look cool to me.

I’ve said it too many times, but @romliss boards look perfect, flat. Not sure if he rides production stuff or what
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: johnes on October 27, 2020, 09:22:25 AM
Minilogo boards have a mellow nose and tail but the concave is medium feeling to me.
I’ve actually hoped they would come out with shapes with a steeper nose and tail.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: baustin on October 27, 2020, 09:23:56 AM
I enjoy skating Crail decks for their shapes if nothing else. Mellow concave and the kicks have that nice round shape that is neither pointy nor square
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Garbagecomplex on October 27, 2020, 09:40:57 AM
Point Dist decks
pink one is a DGK but the same size
The other one is PointDist (whom I'm pretty sure get wood from china if that matters to you)
(https://i.imgur.com/3avAopCl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sbslmHml.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Z59BWtEl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JuX3MAsl.jpg)

A literal plank.
I can't really give a fair review, because overall I hated the lack of concave so much. I rode it, just because I bought it. Mannies were on point. I was doing shuv nose manny variations easily.


Damn that is like what I’m looking for. My scumco looked like that compared to other decks
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Garbagecomplex on October 27, 2020, 09:49:48 AM
The blue Scumco team from the broadcast series? I wouldn't really call it super mellow... it's more of a medium. There are two mellow-er decks from that run, the Downey and the Nicholson. Downey is very similar to a quasi, and I'm 99% sure the Nicholson is the toy machine mellow mold.

That team deck is one of my favorite decks ever though. If you want something similar then I'd stick with PS wood, Quasi 8.25 is always a good one and there's some 8.25 Snack decks that are almost identical to that scumco but they're really hard to find right now. I'd also recommend trying the 8.25 WKND shape (not the new VA or CT ones though), its slightly longer but has a similar feel in my opinion.

If you want something that's even mellower than that, south central E mold (DOA flat as fuck) are awesome but you have to be quick when they drop because they sell out fast. Politic used to do some decks on that mold too but they're apparently not using it anymore. The last one was the "pawns of babylon" graphic. Other mellow decks - blood wizard/maxallure 8.25 is a good one (PGI), most Girl/Chocolate decks, and the Watson made Toy Machine/Foundation decks are all good.

Alternatively, you can just sit tight for the moment because that 8.25 shape is what Nick (the owner and creative genius behind ScumCo) skates so it's going to be in every run going forward. Right now they're just waiting for PS to get their shit together and catch up from the covid delays, but there will be new PS scumcos coming hopefully soon.


Yeah the blue scumco deck. I had 2 of them. Both very flat. It was advertised online as having deep concave but it doesn’t. I did buy a Kyle Nicholson broadcast deck after I realized how much I like the team deck. Very similar. The Nicholson is 8.5 a very similarly flat in all the ways. Idk if I just got lucky and got 2 flattened out team decks. Good to know the owner skates that shape. I’d love to stock up and not have to think about it anymore. Thanks for the info
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Garbagecomplex on October 27, 2020, 09:53:30 AM
Girl/Chocolate decks are pretty chill, like you I prefer shallow kicks and mellow concave.

Really enjoying the G027 8.25. the 8" G008 and G045 are also similarly flat.

Magenta decks are reasonably mellow (i've skated their 7.75s and 8s), Jart also (though their graphics are pretty meh), Primitive also fairly flat (meh on those graphics too).

Steep kicks give me lower back pain, and i hate the feeling of my foot curving in steep concave...I'm 35, not 15 and full of energy and fitness like I was.

I’ve been wanting to try a girl board because you can at least know the shape number to buy it again. I’m 32 And You are exactly right
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Garbagecomplex on October 27, 2020, 09:57:35 AM
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Why do people like mellow boards?
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Boards mellower kicks are more forgiving to pop. Steep kicks means you have to kick down harder before the nose and tail contact the ground because your nose / tail is pitched up higher. You much more vertical but at the expense of consistency and fatigue. Doing a half ass pop will result in ghost pop. So if you're legs are young and full of explosive strength then they are fun to skate. Found this out when I skated a Santa Cruz deck with steep kicks, consistency goes way down especially towards the end of the session when my legs are completely jelly.

In terms of concave I can only do medium to medium-steep, too much concave causes my foot to catch too much board during flips. Haven't skated a mellow / flat deck but could be worth a try, I have to do my kickflips with my deck reversed (pop off my tail, flick off my nose), because the wider nose catched too much of my foot, so maybe if I'll try one for that purpose alone.


I’m old enough that if my nose is too steep I ghost pop nollie stuff. Old enough to not be comfortable rolling up to something thinking there’s a 35 percent chance my nollie trick will ghost.   
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: backinaction on October 27, 2020, 10:38:45 AM
So i've seen/heard the preference to use Ace on steep kicks to bring in wheelbase and help with mellowing out the pop angle.
What trucks are preferred with mellow decks? Fingers of flat obviously play a part as well.

Venture/Thunder would be preferred by most.  I go Indy with a forged baseplate.  Forged indys have a similar wheelbase to cast thunder and I like the turn a lot more.

It's crazy that a number of the Powell pros use Ace on the super mellow kicks.  I think most the rest use Indy.  I don't think they have anyone on their team using Thunder or Venture.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 27, 2020, 07:14:39 PM
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I like low/mid trucks on a flat deck because it makes for quicker pop and I can happily skate flatground for a couple of hours without tiring my legs out...I find the yield pretty good without having to work super hard.

Thunders or Venture lows on a 14" wheelbase with mellow concave and kicks are my go-to. Deck width between 7.75-8.25, I find any bigger wheelbase cuts into the fingers of flat and makes manuals harder.

Totally personal preference of course.
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I also like thunders and ventures and flat boards. I would appreciate a recommendation for a 7.75”ish (less than 8”) deck, that is flat. 14” wb max. Please and thank you. Flatflatflat

If you can find one of the Girl reissue Carroll bruised heel or Jovantae decks they're 7.5 and extremely flat. They're PS wood and I believe it's the original 90's girl mold. I was lucky enough to have someone send me one a month or so ago and it's a blast. Total throwback to the 90s. They flip like a fucking fingerboard.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 27, 2020, 07:41:56 PM


Yeah the blue scumco deck. I had 2 of them. Both very flat. It was advertised online as having deep concave but it doesn’t. I did buy a Kyle Nicholson broadcast deck after I realized how much I like the team deck. Very similar. The Nicholson is 8.5 a very similarly flat in all the ways. Idk if I just got lucky and got 2 flattened out team decks. Good to know the owner skates that shape. I’d love to stock up and not have to think about it anymore. Thanks for the info

Interesting. This is how they normally stack up... I went from flattest (Nicholson) on the bottom to steepest (team) on top and then how the team compares to the Downey and Nicholson respectively.

There's a good bit of variation in terms of stack position with PS decks, but this team was the mellowest of the 3 I've had (hence why I stashed it haha). I know they were listed as deep but I'd classify it as medium. The way that series went the Downey and Kyle decks were mellow, the team and Abair were medium, and then the KT and Beall were a bit deeper. I skated everything but the KT (too long) and Nicholson (wb was too long and I already have a toy machine) and man they were all killers. Some people seemed turned off by the move away from Pennswood but I'd skate almost all of them over any of my Pennswood scumcos any day of the week.

If I get a chance tomorrow I'll pull some other PS stuff out and see if I can find something that matches up that would still be pretty easy to find if you don't want to wait for the new ones. Just guessing but I think that the WKND and snack are going to be the closest. The one advantage that the 8.25 team has over most similar decks in my opinion is its 31.5" length, and unfortunately that's the hardest thing to match. If you're open to other woodshops, the clutch O shape has some similarities. I think the new run of flip decks are on it, but I haven't seen one in person yet.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Ok on October 28, 2020, 08:48:47 AM
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I like low/mid trucks on a flat deck because it makes for quicker pop and I can happily skate flatground for a couple of hours without tiring my legs out...I find the yield pretty good without having to work super hard.

Thunders or Venture lows on a 14" wheelbase with mellow concave and kicks are my go-to. Deck width between 7.75-8.25, I find any bigger wheelbase cuts into the fingers of flat and makes manuals harder.

Totally personal preference of course.
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I also like thunders and ventures and flat boards. I would appreciate a recommendation for a 7.75”ish (less than 8”) deck, that is flat. 14” wb max. Please and thank you. Flatflatflat
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If you can find one of the Girl reissue Carroll bruised heel or Jovantae decks they're 7.5 and extremely flat. They're PS wood and I believe it's the original 90's girl mold. I was lucky enough to have someone send me one a month or so ago and it's a blast. Total throwback to the 90s. They flip like a fucking fingerboard.

Thanks!

Yeah I have one Jovontae, shoulda woulda bought another. I haven’t seen any for a minute. That board is a good time for sure, same mold and wider would also be fun, but the 7.5 doesn’t bother me at all.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Garbagecomplex on October 28, 2020, 01:51:12 PM
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Yeah the blue scumco deck. I had 2 of them. Both very flat. It was advertised online as having deep concave but it doesn’t. I did buy a Kyle Nicholson broadcast deck after I realized how much I like the team deck. Very similar. The Nicholson is 8.5 a very similarly flat in all the ways. Idk if I just got lucky and got 2 flattened out team decks. Good to know the owner skates that shape. I’d love to stock up and not have to think about it anymore. Thanks for the info
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Interesting. This is how they normally stack up... I went from flattest (Nicholson) on the bottom to steepest (team) on top and then how the team compares to the Downey and Nicholson respectively.

There's a good bit of variation in terms of stack position with PS decks, but this team was the mellowest of the 3 I've had (hence why I stashed it haha). I know they were listed as deep but I'd classify it as medium. The way that series went the Downey and Kyle decks were mellow, the team and Abair were medium, and then the KT and Beall were a bit deeper. I skated everything but the KT (too long) and Nicholson (wb was too long and I already have a toy machine) and man they were all killers. Some people seemed turned off by the move away from Pennswood but I'd skate almost all of them over any of my Pennswood scumcos any day of the week.

If I get a chance tomorrow I'll pull some other PS stuff out and see if I can find something that matches up that would still be pretty easy to find if you don't want to wait for the new ones. Just guessing but I think that the WKND and snack are going to be the closest. The one advantage that the 8.25 team has over most similar decks in my opinion is its 31.5" length, and unfortunately that's the hardest thing to match. If you're open to other woodshops, the clutch O shape has some similarities. I think the new run of flip decks are on it, but I haven't seen one in person yet.

I’d definitely wait for those scumcos. I kinda spent a lot trying to figure out the perfect set up for me.

The scumco team deck I forgot I did sand down slightly. I’m on 147 thunders so I sanded the front end  half slightly which did make it slightly flatter (not much more than the unskated one I have). It tapers quite a bit so the back end was good with my trucks. And yeah it being 31.5 is wonderful.

It’s also got a wheelbase a pinch more than 14. It’s listed as 14 but it’s almost 14.2. I have two Kyle nickolson broadcast decks. The 8.5 (flat)has the 14.2 wheelbase but the 8.25 (medium)has a 14.5 So it’s not ideal for me. Kicks are good though.

Interested in those wknd and snack decks. I had always seen people say the wknd had super steep noses so it’s good to know there’s shapes that arnt.
I tried another scumco but it was a regular popsicle from pennswood. So I experimented with it. Used a heat gun to heat it and clamped it flat. Then heated the nose and tail and added weight. It works ok but I’m not sure how bad it is for the life of the deck

I’m open to other woodshops but I’ve liked all the ps decks so I’ve been trying different stuff from there.

Thanks for all the help and input. It’s frustrating not being able to go stand on a deck. And buying online is hard when there’s very little info about decks and being so incredibly picky about it.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 28, 2020, 02:11:07 PM
There used to be a WKND 8.25 shape that had a mega steep nose, it was 31.5" length and is one of my favorite decks ever. Actually it's pretty similar to the scumco team except with a bit more angle to the nose. About a year and a half ago they stopped doing them and went to an 8.25 that was 31.75 length and had a less steep nose, and then just recently they came out with a few other 8.25 shapes that are more rounded and one that has a shorter wb. I haven't tried any of the new ones so I don't really know much about them, but you can probably still find the 31.75 ones pretty easily.

Snack is a lot harder to find. They had a drop right at the beginning of the pandemic, but they're a smaller company and PS is prioritizing large orders right now so who knows when they'll have more out. If you can find one, the 8.25 Krebs and Cullen decks should be fairly close to the scumco team albeit slightly longer.

Heating your deck up and clamping weights to it is probably pretty horrible for it, but if you've got the legs to overcome it then go for it I guess. Neen Williams runs his shit over with his car. Pennswood is pretty much a polar opposite to PS in my opinion, they tend to be fairly deep, stiff, and heavy feeling while PS decks tend to be fairly flat and have more subtle curves and the wood is very light and springy feeling.

Watson wood is pretty similar to PS in terms of feel, and the Foundation 8.25 oval decks out there right now are very flat concave but medium kicks. Great decks.   
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: BMCsteve on October 28, 2020, 07:52:12 PM
DOA Flat as Fuck

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50541241438_dd2828b2d0_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 28, 2020, 10:20:59 PM
DOA Flat as Fuck

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50541241438_dd2828b2d0_z.jpg)

They're the best.

Unfortunately they're also more or less extinct at the moment so unless you're a hoarder like myself.. and yourself...ourselves... you've got to play the waiting game. I have seen some 8" politic E molds still out there but I think sneakycocksucker got the last 8.12 I had bookmarked.

They're also quite different from the Scumco deck he mentioned, which as I've said I consider to be more of a medium (although its definitely mellower than say an AH eagle so if he's coming from skating a lot of BBS or similar boards then I could see why he'd consider it flat). The Scumco is shorter (31.5 vs 31.75), much more square, and has a steeper nose than the flats. I've actually transitioned between those two exact boards several times because they're both at the very highest tier of my favorite decks list, and its not always a pleasant switch. It probably doesn't help that I skate the flats on ventures and the scumco on theeves.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Xen on October 29, 2020, 06:21:53 PM
Plan B
Baker
Primitive
Those REAL mellow boards (especially if you get a lower in the stack one)
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 30, 2020, 04:16:31 AM
Plan B
Baker
Those REAL mellow boards (especially if you get a lower in the stack one)

Unfortunately almost all of the plan B I've seen lately are the new HLC ones and they're fairly steep and longer than the PS ones. Still good, but not the short mellow tail/steep nose shape that I love. Im hoping they go back to PS once the covid production issues are resolved or they develop a similar shape with HLC because it was a really awesome and unique size/shape combo.



Interested in those wknd and snack decks. I had always seen people say the wknd had super steep noses so it’s good to know there’s shapes that arnt.



(https://i.imgur.com/wmSyCsL.jpg)

This is the previous standard 8.25 wknd mold on top of the scumco team. It's a little flatter, a little longer (31.75) and slightly less square. The new wknd shape guide lists the regular 8.25 as 32 now so I don't know if they changed that or it's just measured with the concave. You can definitely still find them though, or if you don't mind a 14wb and rounder shape you can get the new boards in the 8.25CT shape.

I would definitely recommend the 8.25 quasi shape as well. It's a little mellower than the wknd concave wise but the tail angle is similar to the scumco and it has a really nice full squarish-round shape.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Garbagecomplex on October 30, 2020, 10:25:32 AM
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Plan B
Baker
Those REAL mellow boards (especially if you get a lower in the stack one)
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Unfortunately almost all of the plan B I've seen lately are the new HLC ones and they're fairly steep and longer than the PS ones. Still good, but not the short mellow tail/steep nose shape that I love. Im hoping they go back to PS once the covid production issues are resolved or they develop a similar shape with HLC because it was a really awesome and unique size/shape combo.


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Interested in those wknd and snack decks. I had always seen people say the wknd had super steep noses so it’s good to know there’s shapes that arnt.


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(https://i.imgur.com/wmSyCsL.jpg)

This is the previous standard 8.25 wknd mold on top of the scumco team. It's a little flatter, a little longer (31.75) and slightly less square. The new wknd shape guide lists the regular 8.25 as 32 now so I don't know if they changed that or it's just measured with the concave. You can definitely still find them though, or if you don't mind a 14wb and rounder shape you can get the new boards in the 8.25CT shape.

I would definitely recommend the 8.25 quasi shape as well. It's a little mellower than the wknd concave wise but the tail angle is similar to the scumco and it has a really nice full squarish-round shape.

That wknd nose looks nice. I do really like quasi. I had one 8.25 that was nice then one I got online that was too steep with a ramp nose . I like wide kicks I don’t care if they’re rounded or square just that there’s room there. I like that the scumco team deck is kinda shaped like an exclamation point. Pretty tapered.

Here’s my scumcos compared with others

https://www.instagram.com/pantherface420/

A lot of people suggested different trucks. It’s a good idea and I should consider it. I just really like the thunder 147 and I’ve never really liked a truck that much before. I’m at my limit with them skating 8.25. I was thinking of maybe getting a 8.25 axel truck and see how the feels then size up.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Esmith5488 on October 30, 2020, 08:09:43 PM
DOA Flat as Fuck

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50541241438_dd2828b2d0_z.jpg)
Dammit I want another doa now
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Mbrimson88 on October 30, 2020, 08:45:38 PM
All those decks posted still look like they have more concave and steeper kicks than half the BBS boards I have right now, more so in the 8.38 size than any other as that is what I ride, but I know I have some others that even I find too mellow.

In some that I have maybe 10+ of the same board, I sort them from mellow to steep and can really see the differences in the angle of kicks when I line them all up, so can pick from that what I am feeling at the time.

That might also be an issue to some people, because if you got one board you like, then try to find another, it might not be the same concave.

For some reason almost all the 8.25 sizes have a lot more concave, the 8.38 and 8.4 are often more mellow, then a few other smaller boards always feel very small and flat to me, like most of the 8 but the 8.12 eagle and 8.18 have a fair bit more on average.


Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Ok on October 31, 2020, 10:40:50 AM
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Yeah the blue scumco deck. I had 2 of them. Both very flat. It was advertised online as having deep concave but it doesn’t. I did buy a Kyle Nicholson broadcast deck after I realized how much I like the team deck. Very similar. The Nicholson is 8.5 a very similarly flat in all the ways. Idk if I just got lucky and got 2 flattened out team decks. Good to know the owner skates that shape. I’d love to stock up and not have to think about it anymore. Thanks for the info
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Interesting. This is how they normally stack up... I went from flattest (Nicholson) on the bottom to steepest (team) on top and then how the team compares to the Downey and Nicholson respectively.

There's a good bit of variation in terms of stack position with PS decks, but this team was the mellowest of the 3 I've had (hence why I stashed it haha). I know they were listed as deep but I'd classify it as medium. The way that series went the Downey and Kyle decks were mellow, the team and Abair were medium, and then the KT and Beall were a bit deeper. I skated everything but the KT (too long) and Nicholson (wb was too long and I already have a toy machine) and man they were all killers. Some people seemed turned off by the move away from Pennswood but I'd skate almost all of them over any of my Pennswood scumcos any day of the week.

If I get a chance tomorrow I'll pull some other PS stuff out and see if I can find something that matches up that would still be pretty easy to find if you don't want to wait for the new ones. Just guessing but I think that the WKND and snack are going to be the closest. The one advantage that the 8.25 team has over most similar decks in my opinion is its 31.5" length, and unfortunately that's the hardest thing to match. If you're open to other woodshops, the clutch O shape has some similarities. I think the new run of flip decks are on it, but I haven't seen one in person yet.

I’ve got an older scumco that I never really got along with: Downey, kiddie pool, pink tail, picture of a tortoise and then a small side wrap....anyways, set it up again, this time with 147 hollow light hangers and some 149 cast plates (not sure if this is a good call because 147s and down, are a different truck to 148 and up, but I love cast and hate forged and didn’t want to buy another truck). Aaaaaaaanyways.....if I could find a scumco that was 8” or less and 14”, mellow I’d be stoked. They are such a sick company. Not sure what this would is, pretty sure it’s not ps. It’s pretty darn flat. Chill.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Xen on October 31, 2020, 11:42:23 AM
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Plan B
Baker
Those REAL mellow boards (especially if you get a lower in the stack one)
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Unfortunately almost all of the plan B I've seen lately are the new HLC ones and they're fairly steep and longer than the PS ones. Still good, but not the short mellow tail/steep nose shape that I love. Im hoping they go back to PS once the covid production issues are resolved or they develop a similar shape with HLC because it was a really awesome and unique size/shape combo.


The one I have on hand is the Joslin 'sliced' deck (multi stain wolverine claws).

Took this a while back: Top to Bottom (all rear truck holes lined up so we're seeing tails)

SC VX
Almost R7 (steep kicks mellow cave)
Primitive
Plan B

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3lSFtTjawAjJ3VNnSa6hMjHgEeITPsG5FEjqG1mD513qUYGaVAS8_wPcAfvEoxmqbLYpdXgGgmY-yJVIFTSRbdcsfZC7E8Mq65tgbVlN1wxy6hlYcXtZgpipvuM3wkclC8ErYrCzh3g)

The almost and plan b are about the same concave, but the plan b kicks are soooooooo mellow (and short @6.5" super fun, everything else is 6.6"+); the primitive is a weird beast, it's only deep right after the rear trucks or before the front, pretty mellow in the middle..it kind of locks you in if you land bolts.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: 90sDamiano on November 01, 2020, 09:18:33 AM
I got the scumco team broadcast deck. It’s my favorite deck I’ve ever had. It’s verry very mellow. Nearly flat concave. Super mellow nose and tail. Most decks have very steep noses and I hate it. I tried the baker og but it feels like the kicks are lower to the ground than the middle of the deck. It’s weird. I’m just looking for the flattest mellowest decks. Any suggestions?
Palace
Any dwindle flat/mellow concave
Girl/chocolate (I’m on a g023 rn that is nice and flat)
Toy machine/foundation
Thank you

DSM boards tend to be like this but honestly if you don’t have it in hand it could be one of those steep ones.
Toy and foundations that are PS usually are flat like you described. If it’s a bbs one it will not be as flat. I love flat decks as well. Hopefully this helps


Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Ok on November 02, 2020, 09:22:51 AM
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Plan B
Baker
Those REAL mellow boards (especially if you get a lower in the stack one)
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Unfortunately almost all of the plan B I've seen lately are the new HLC ones and they're fairly steep and longer than the PS ones. Still good, but not the short mellow tail/steep nose shape that I love. Im hoping they go back to PS once the covid production issues are resolved or they develop a similar shape with HLC because it was a really awesome and unique size/shape combo.

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The one I have on hand is the Joslin 'sliced' deck (multi stain wolverine claws).

Took this a while back: Top to Bottom (all rear truck holes lined up so we're seeing tails)

SC VX
Almost R7 (steep kicks mellow cave)
Primitive
Plan B

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3lSFtTjawAjJ3VNnSa6hMjHgEeITPsG5FEjqG1mD513qUYGaVAS8_wPcAfvEoxmqbLYpdXgGgmY-yJVIFTSRbdcsfZC7E8Mq65tgbVlN1wxy6hlYcXtZgpipvuM3wkclC8ErYrCzh3g)

The almost and plan b are about the same concave, but the plan b kicks are soooooooo mellow (and short @6.5" super fun, everything else is 6.6"+); the primitive is a weird beast, it's only deep right after the rear trucks or before the front, pretty mellow in the middle..it kind of locks you in if you land bolts.

That plan b concave and kick angle looks so so so good.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: spanyard on October 03, 2022, 07:58:25 PM
Hesitant to revive this old thread, but I was wondering if anyone can confirm skate mental as having mellow/flatter kicks? I stepped on a buddy's 8 (I think?) and it felt great -popped a nollie to check out the nose angle - but felt sheepish skating on it for too long. I know they're supposedly BBS, but wondering if they use a different mold other than the usual runs like dlx...started to daydream about setting one up with 5.2 Lo's and 51 classics...
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Sativa Lung on October 03, 2022, 10:49:44 PM
Hesitant to revive this old thread, but I was wondering if anyone can confirm skate mental as having mellow/flatter kicks? I stepped on a buddy's 8 (I think?) and it felt great -popped a nollie to check out the nose angle - but felt sheepish skating on it for too long. I know they're supposedly BBS, but wondering if they use a different mold other than the usual runs like dlx...started to daydream about setting one up with 5.2 Lo's and 51 classics...

Depends on how old it is. Their switch to BBS is relatively recent so there's still skate mentals on the market from clutch and I've even seen some of the PGI ones still floating around, so it might not be a BBS. The PGI boards are flat as all hell, I never skated one of the clutch ones.

If it is bbs they'll be using something different from the big guys like dlx/bakerboys, they have their own molds and shapes. If I'm remembering right Koston may have had custom molds for numbers (they definitely had non standard dims), so if it's not just your standard medium bbs popsicle maybe they're using those? I think they were pretty steep though it's been a few years since I saw one.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 04, 2022, 09:11:06 PM
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Hesitant to revive this old thread, but I was wondering if anyone can confirm skate mental as having mellow/flatter kicks? I stepped on a buddy's 8 (I think?) and it felt great -popped a nollie to check out the nose angle - but felt sheepish skating on it for too long. I know they're supposedly BBS, but wondering if they use a different mold other than the usual runs like dlx...started to daydream about setting one up with 5.2 Lo's and 51 classics...
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Depends on how old it is. Their switch to BBS is relatively recent so there's still skate mentals on the market from clutch and I've even seen some of the PGI ones still floating around, so it might not be a BBS. The PGI boards are flat as all hell, I never skated one of the clutch ones.

If it is bbs they'll be using something different from the big guys like dlx/bakerboys, they have their own molds and shapes. If I'm remembering right Koston may have had custom molds for numbers (they definitely had non standard dims), so if it's not just your standard medium bbs popsicle maybe they're using those? I think they were pretty steep though it's been a few years since I saw one.

Nah they use combo of bone stock BBS shapes:

The 14" WB are the BBS short generics used be several brands in 8-8.25.

8.38 and up are the standard shapes. Occasionally there is an 8.25x14.25 generic shape. The exceptions are the 8.4, which is indistinguishable from the Anti Hero 8.4x14.25, and then 8.5 Koston shape which is identical to the Blue Eagle. Measured all of them and put em on top of each other.

My new deck that I am skating tomorrow is an 8.38 Jake Anderson that is the same BBS shape that I've had 8 times this year. Also asked a team rider. They have shape numbers on their site, but in real life some of the decks measure different. Tactics is straight wrong about most of the dimensions including the one I've got.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Sila on October 05, 2022, 12:26:39 AM
What are the pros of skating really mellow boards?
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: fur lined sea on October 05, 2022, 01:16:21 AM
What are the pros of skating really mellow boards?

For me they make a lot of ledge tricks easier, tailslide and noseslide tricks seem comfier because they don't seesaw like a steep board might, especially when trying to flip out. Crooked grind tricks lock in with less effort. Basically they make me feel closer to the ledge and more secure in a way.

I hated my last flat board for flatground, however. Every flip trick was painful. 

(https://makeshop-multi-images.akamaized.net/theusasurf/itemimages/000000004952_CnPeSvw.jpg)

I had this Scum Co Nicholson in an 8. Looked like it barely had a tail or nose. I've never had a board quite like it.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: nosneb on October 05, 2022, 06:52:24 AM
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DOA Flat as Fuck

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50541241438_dd2828b2d0_z.jpg)
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I’m pretty sure that’s standard mold.

Here is my flat as fuck

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(https://i.ibb.co/ctyMJWn/8-DB8-C639-1-D27-4811-8574-DED97-AA8-E690.jpg)
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: rosemaryBB on November 17, 2022, 08:41:38 AM
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DOA Flat as Fuck

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50541241438_dd2828b2d0_z.jpg)
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I’m pretty sure that’s standard mold.

Here is my flat as fuck

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(https://i.ibb.co/ctyMJWn/8-DB8-C639-1-D27-4811-8574-DED97-AA8-E690.jpg)

Anyone know generally what wheelbases are like on DOA boards? Lots on sale right now but no wb info - looking at the 8.38’s specifically if that helps
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: iw0 on November 17, 2022, 09:14:56 AM
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DOA Flat as Fuck

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50541241438_dd2828b2d0_z.jpg)
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I’m pretty sure that’s standard mold.

Here is my flat as fuck

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(https://i.ibb.co/ctyMJWn/8-DB8-C639-1-D27-4811-8574-DED97-AA8-E690.jpg)
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Anyone know generally what wheelbases are like on DOA boards? Lots on sale right now but no wb info - looking at the 8.38’s specifically if that helps

the 8's are 14", 8.25s are 14.25" and i think the 8.3*s are 14.25" as well
from a deck sticker -
8.375" width
32" length
14.25" wb
7" nose
6.75" tail

edit: just want to mention that as far as i know all the boards on the site right now are standard concave and not flat as fuck btw
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Ok on November 17, 2022, 02:34:53 PM
With PS producing less and less, and I’ve never been able to get a doa flat…who makes mellow stuff?
It’s ‘funny’ that I used to bitch about pgi boards and now I’d be stoked to snag one.
bbs is the industry standard, but I really do not prefer the concave, that weird bend/swoop where the rails end and the kicks start, no thanks.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Sativa Lung on November 17, 2022, 07:03:11 PM
With PS producing less and less, and I’ve never been able to get a doa flat…who makes mellow stuff?
It’s ‘funny’ that I used to bitch about pgi boards and now I’d be stoked to snag one.
bbs is the industry standard, but I really do not prefer the concave, that weird bend/swoop where the rails end and the kicks start, no thanks.

PGI still exists and tons of smaller companies use them. There's no shortage of PS decks on the market either. They aren't really producing less (yet) from what I can tell, they're just overstocked because the market flooded out when all the overdue orders hit the market post-covid and the global economic downturn that accompanied Russia's invasion. Every shop owner I know is drowning in wood right now.

With PS wood there's a ton of different molds so If you can't go to a shop in person use socal or skate warehouse to check out the profile pic and find one that looks good. I like the one wknd uses for their CT shape a lot at the moment.

I dunno what size you skate but have a bunch of 8.25 flats if you want one. New or lightly used. Probably a dozen or so different graphics. Might have an 8.37 somewhere too.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: rosemaryBB on November 26, 2022, 06:15:20 PM
Feel like this info warrants more than just posting in this thread that was basically dead until a week or so ago, but I messaged whoever runs the DOA insta to ask about what would happen to the presses for the Flat as Fucks and he said he’s trying to get Politic to pick up the torch, albeit under a different name most likely. Still bummed DOA is going under, but this is at least good news.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Ok on November 26, 2022, 06:58:45 PM
The doa guy is too sweet. I did jack shit to support. I like to buy my boards in person, and the shop I go to never had em. I should have ordered some flat as fucks. Blah blah. Kooked it.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: FUBAR on November 26, 2022, 07:50:02 PM
I do hope someone keeps the flat as fucks going. I have an 8.3 on ice and have skated an 8.25 before that I loved.
I have my first (and prob last) regular concave DOA deck coming to try.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: switchfakie on November 27, 2022, 03:55:51 PM
sour solution gustav tonnessen pro board is the absolute flattest board ive ever skated.

i absolutely fucking hated it bc i love eating cereal out of my concave, so you might like it
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: GBLange on November 28, 2022, 06:46:16 AM
had a 8.5 dan plunkett skatemental board that was pretty mellow compared to a Wknd / FA / Polar of the same 8.5".
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: fernando the skater on December 18, 2022, 01:24:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/WzrJbS3.jpg)

Saw this photograph earlier and initially thought it was a freestyle deck. From earlier, flatter days.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Mbrimson88 on December 18, 2022, 04:17:47 PM
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Standing on boards from back in the day now are often terrible when compared to your normal concave boards.

Virtually no concave across the board and very mellow flat kicks, which might suit some people but all up they broke easily and skated average at best.

I think I definitely have better memories of skating back then, when compared to actually standing on or skating a board from that era.

Everyone is different though, but I find mellowing out modern boards works best, eg parking on the kicks of mellow concave BBS wood and flattening them out and they skate fine and feel way more comfortable.

Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: FUBAR on December 18, 2022, 04:44:29 PM
I gotta vouch for the above trick…shit works.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Tre on December 20, 2022, 06:01:44 PM
Sk8mafia makes a pretty flat/mellow deck. Also sour (I think S1 shape)
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Esmith5488 on December 21, 2022, 08:41:35 AM
I have a roger that feels crazy flat compared to the Uma I was just on
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: El Freegano on May 25, 2023, 01:35:57 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjNt5iGhNwI
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Sativa Lung on May 25, 2023, 02:45:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjNt5iGhNwI

Steve is the man. Best, most honest dude in skateboarding.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: GBLange on May 27, 2023, 07:54:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjNt5iGhNwI

and now i'm nerding out with my measuring tape
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Badandoldskater on May 27, 2023, 08:00:18 AM
Waiting on the politic flat boards coming next month or so so
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Post by: Sativa Lung on May 27, 2023, 09:40:52 AM
Waiting on the politic flat boards coming next month or so so

If you skate 8.25 I have some DOA flats
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: nosneb on May 27, 2023, 07:31:02 PM
Mini logo 😍
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Fifty8mm on May 27, 2023, 08:28:27 PM
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Steve is the man. Best, most honest dude in skateboarding.
Fletch is the best.
DOA was the best thing ever to come out in a long long time.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 03, 2023, 05:46:08 PM
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As per other discussions in Woodshop thread, if anyone can help with actual dimensions, it would be interesting to see / hear.


Previous posts:




I get that there would be varying degrees of what people call mellow, or even flat boards, but do you guys have some dimensions or list of info that would help anyone determine what you would consider mellow / flat boards?

Just trying to get some sort of gauge as to what you are talking about here, certainly not trying to start a fight or cause drama, but every time I ask for measurements, none are forthcoming.

As I posted earlier on what I would call a mellow Krooked board I have, an 8.38 the middle of the board concave rise was about 5 mm (usually more like 7 - 8 mm) and the angle of kicks was 17 on the nose and 16 on the tail, usually more like 22 nose, 21 tail for the average DLX boards, even the IV stamp, with a I stamp in 8.38 being 9 mm rise and 24 degrees nose and 23 degrees tail.  From that alone this board is way more mellow than other boards in the same category, but I personally would not be calling it "flat" just "mellow concave" when compared to most.


The 1996 Real 8.25 has about 4 - 5 mm concave and about 15 degrees kicks, with the 1998 World Industries deck that measures about 7.6 having 3 - 4 mm concave and similarly 15 degrees in the kicks.  Those two even just look flat and standing on them is another story compared to any modern board I have from any woodshop, but they still have more concave than some others that people might be posting, eg a 7.5 Girl board I had seen once was like nothing I recall, almost zero concave across and only the slightest inclination in the kicks too, but it was so beat to death and worn down I would imagine there was a bit more to it when new.

I also understand that the smaller a board is, the more mellow / flat it is going to seem, so something of 7.5 is always going to seem flatter than something of 8.25 or bigger, even with the mellow mold or flat presses that some companies use.

Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 03, 2023, 05:46:52 PM
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In terms of woodshops / brands, I don't have access to DOA boards, but from what everyone says they have the flattest.

I have some PGI wood which definitely felt very flat overall in the 8 and 8.125, even in the wider 8.5 size boards, but I would still only consider that mellow.

Most others including BBS, PS Stix, Clutch, Control, are anywhere from middle ground, sometimes more mellow, sometimes steeper, but others like Pennswood, Dwindle, even some other China made boards were steeper than average overall.

Most others I have identified from the woodshop list feel on the steeper side to me too, that is kicks more than 20 degrees and deeper concave, the one exception being most Powell boards now, but they just feel weird to me, sort of like everything is a bit off any time I stand on one.

Some HLC boards I have feel very flat through the concave, but have more medium angle kicks, on the Plan B and Sk8 Mafia boards that came through my hands, in 8 and 8.25 sizes.

Others like Watson and Prime decks are only the old school shaped boards and although they are very mellow, I don't count them in the same way a normal popsicle board would be, given they are reissues or boards that are meant to be like the 80s or early 90s boards.

If those decks were reshaped into popsicles of 8 to 8.25 they would definitely be flat, as per the 1996 and 1998 boards I have, which seem like they were made from those similar molds, so that would be the closest to what people generally call flat boards now.

Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Fifty8mm on June 03, 2023, 06:02:18 PM
Palace/DSM have flat rails, the kicks are steeper than most boards out there.

I have a PS stix Jovontae reissue 7.5  that is flat as fuck. Flat kicks and rails. Flatter than any DOA.

Doa flat as fuck was flat but had more concave than than the ps stix reissue.

Flattest board i have is a Sheffey Bull dog board. 

Sour boards are not flat. Even the low concave has steeper rails than palace 7.75 shape. The kicks are on the flatter side but not as flat as the two 7.5 girls i have or DOAs.

As of Right now the only real flat option is mini logo per DOA Steve and Nosneb. And those 2 mfrs are picky as fuck
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: hiljentaa on June 03, 2023, 06:18:06 PM
Just got in a Mini Logo 8 and Powell 8.25.

The Mini Logo 8 is wonderfully mellow. Quite short at ~31.375" but the tail is long enough for me at 6.5.

The Powell 8.25 compared to a a Baker OG 8.25 feels about the same in kick steepness, but the Baker feels flatter in concave mostly because the rails are sanded way more round compared to the Powell.

I sprung for a Flight 8 during the Skateone sale. Really excited to get to that one eventually.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: nosneb on June 04, 2023, 02:13:27 PM
Ok here is what I consider mellow.
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Doa flat as fuck

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(https://i.ibb.co/941bt5F/04-EB7-CBF-564-F-4704-A8-FD-44-E8-B9-DE8-F5-C.jpg)
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(https://i.ibb.co/ctyMJWn/8-DB8-C639-1-D27-4811-8574-DED97-AA8-E690.jpg)


(https://i.ibb.co/dLGnxZX/31-A2-AF15-E23-B-4767-BF9-D-51-E5-F3-DE9-B68.jpg)

New deal psstix
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Tom Pearl on June 04, 2023, 03:41:59 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjNt5iGhNwI
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and now i'm nerding out with my measuring tape

i just watched that whole thing in one sitting for some reason and i dont even like mellow boards
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: nosneb on June 04, 2023, 04:55:38 PM
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Point Dist decks
pink one is a DGK but the same size
The other one is PointDist (whom I'm pretty sure get wood from china if that matters to you)
(https://i.imgur.com/3avAopCl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sbslmHml.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Z59BWtEl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JuX3MAsl.jpg)

A literal plank.
I can't really give a fair review, because overall I hated the lack of concave so much. I rode it, just because I bought it. Mannies were on point. I was doing shuv nose manny variations easily.
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Damn that is like what I’m looking for. My scumco looked like that compared to other decks
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Fletschinger on June 04, 2023, 06:20:24 PM
If you can get them looking like “on sale ikea furniture” and ride 8” and lower, get a mini logo.  Id say Powell but neither seem to have dyed wood so it’s the same deck.  I recently tried an 8” flight deck and it measures 8.1 which bummed me out, but also a good mellow deck and super light. (Also has the black fiberglass top so you don’t see natural wood)
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: hiljentaa on June 05, 2023, 10:59:41 AM
If you can get them looking like “on sale ikea furniture” and ride 8” and lower, get a mini logo.  Id say Powell but neither seem to have dyed wood so it’s the same deck.  I recently tried an 8” flight deck and it measures 8.1 which bummed me out, but also a good mellow deck and super light. (Also has the black fiberglass top so you don’t see natural wood)

I got the same Flight 8 as you, the Salman Agah graphic. The one I got measures 8.0625 and has dyed plies. Pretty decent for Powell graphics.

Excited to eventually skate it- always been curious about 'tech' boards but never had anything but a 7-ply maple board.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Ok on June 05, 2023, 02:59:33 PM
If you can get them looking like “on sale ikea furniture” and ride 8” and lower, get a mini logo.  Id say Powell but neither seem to have dyed wood so it’s the same deck.  I recently tried an 8” flight deck and it measures 8.1 which bummed me out, but also a good mellow deck and super light. (Also has the black fiberglass top so you don’t see natural wood)


how’d it feel? the flight deck.


i’m kinda into this feeling i’m getting about possibly buying a powell board for the flatness, sorta perverted.
i’m at a point where there aren’t many companies that get me interested, sooo fuck it.

the new deal that benson posted looks like ideal concave
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 05, 2023, 05:49:33 PM
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If you can get them looking like “on sale ikea furniture” and ride 8” and lower, get a mini logo.  Id say Powell but neither seem to have dyed wood so it’s the same deck.  I recently tried an 8” flight deck and it measures 8.1 which bummed me out, but also a good mellow deck and super light. (Also has the black fiberglass top so you don’t see natural wood)
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how’d it feel? the flight deck.


i’m kinda into this feeling i’m getting about possibly buying a powell board for the flatness, sorta perverted.
i’m at a point where there aren’t many companies that get me interested, sooo fuck it.

the new deal that benson posted looks like ideal concave


The thing that got me when I tried a few flight boards from various people was how flexible the board was right from go, when compared to any normal seven ply wood board.

They had so much more flex, but in a different way, so not entirely bad, although some people call it bad, but it was just different to skate, that's for sure.


Because of that, the flight boards felt way flatter than they were, or should I say more mellow in the kicks than they were, because body weight pushing down from one guy made it look like the tail ended up almost flat in line with the board when he pumped on the ramp or went to pop and mis timed it.

If you can stand on one anywhere first, it is a whole different experience, so some people like it and some don't.


Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Mbrimson88 on June 05, 2023, 05:59:46 PM
.

I went back through and pulled the pics I had taken of the two 90s boards.  Should have taken more comparison pics too, but I still have them so it is easy enough to do that if I need to.

Might have posted these before, but here are the lot of pics anyway, for anyone interested.



*  Found the other post I had made too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120185.msg3991456#msg3991456


Board 1

Real Skate R team (1996)

8.25 x 32 with a 14.25 wheelbase

Indy Stage 7s
Spitfire 60mm wheels
Lucky bolts, risers and bearings


Board 2

World Industries Kopycat Lorenzo (1998)

7.625 x 31.1 with 14.0 wheelbase

Indy Stage 8s
World 56mm wheels





Graphic view
Top view
End view
Kick, with deck bolt in showing lots of flat before kick on the World board
Side of Real board
Last frame, comparison with the steepest DLX board I have in the stack, to really emphasize the difference in the 1996 deck compared to the modern concave.


Graphic view

1996 Real 8.25 board (team hydrant graphic)
1998 World Industries 7.6 board (Enrique Lorenzo)

(https://i.ibb.co/JvmpYJG/1990s-boards-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QPpHWwT)


Top view

(https://i.ibb.co/Hn3HpS9/1990s-boards-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3BQCY3P)


End view

(https://i.ibb.co/gg8Y2pD/1990s-boards-03.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZTr9jPh)


Kick, with deck bolt in showing lots of flat before kick on the World board

(https://i.ibb.co/N3tWRfq/1990s-boards-04.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1n7RcBN)


Side of Real board

(https://i.ibb.co/H7dJMD1/1990s-boards-06.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hsfqnRh)


Last frame, comparison with the steepest DLX board I have in the stack, to really emphasize the difference in the 1996 deck compared to the modern concave.

(https://i.ibb.co/MDM9kJJ/1990s-boards-05.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Fbgn4dd)



Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Ok on June 05, 2023, 09:51:37 PM
.

I went back through and pulled the pics I had taken of the two 90s boards.  Should have taken more comparison pics too, but I still have them so it is easy enough to do that if I need to.

Might have posted these before, but here are the lot of pics anyway, for anyone interested.



*  Found the other post I had made too:

https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=120185.msg3991456#msg3991456


Board 1

Real Skate R team (1996)

8.25 x 32 with a 14.25 wheelbase

Indy Stage 7s
Spitfire 60mm wheels
Lucky bolts, risers and bearings


Board 2

World Industries Kopycat Lorenzo (1998)

7.625 x 31.1 with 14.0 wheelbase

Indy Stage 8s
World 56mm wheels





Graphic view
Top view
End view
Kick, with deck bolt in showing lots of flat before kick on the World board
Side of Real board
Last frame, comparison with the steepest DLX board I have in the stack, to really emphasize the difference in the 1996 deck compared to the modern concave.


Graphic view

1996 Real 8.25 board (team hydrant graphic)
1998 World Industries 7.6 board (Enrique Lorenzo)

(https://i.ibb.co/JvmpYJG/1990s-boards-01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/QPpHWwT)


Top view

(https://i.ibb.co/Hn3HpS9/1990s-boards-02.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3BQCY3P)


End view

(https://i.ibb.co/gg8Y2pD/1990s-boards-03.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZTr9jPh)


Kick, with deck bolt in showing lots of flat before kick on the World board

(https://i.ibb.co/N3tWRfq/1990s-boards-04.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1n7RcBN)


Side of Real board

(https://i.ibb.co/H7dJMD1/1990s-boards-06.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hsfqnRh)


Last frame, comparison with the steepest DLX board I have in the stack, to really emphasize the difference in the 1996 deck compared to the modern concave.

(https://i.ibb.co/MDM9kJJ/1990s-boards-05.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Fbgn4dd)


thanks! your side by side pics are helpful. the last pic show what i don’t like about bbs, that swoop. i understand it makes the board stiffer/last longer, but i do not like the pop, or the feel.
wish those flat boards were coming back
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Sativa Lung on June 06, 2023, 05:29:59 AM
Palace/DSM have flat rails, the kicks are steeper than most boards out there.

I have a PS stix Jovontae reissue 7.5  that is flat as fuck. Flat kicks and rails. Flatter than any DOA.

Doa flat as fuck was flat but had more concave than than the ps stix reissue.

Flattest board i have is a Sheffey Bull dog board. 

Sour boards are not flat. Even the low concave has steeper rails than palace 7.75 shape. The kicks are on the flatter side but not as flat as the two 7.5 girls i have or DOAs.

As of Right now the only real flat option is mini logo per DOA Steve and Nosneb. And those 2 mfrs are picky as fuck

There's flat boards but you have to know where to find them and it varies by size...PS has at least 2 flat molds that they regularly use though. The toy machine "mellow" 8.25 is one of the flattest boards you'll find in regular rotation and some other companies use it as well...I have a couple PS stix scumcos on it that I have stashed. If it wasn't 14.5 wb I'd probably have a stack of just toy machine decks. Not sure if it was a one-off but I've seen 8.12s out of that mold from someone too, I wanna say WKND maybe. There's definitely flat options out of China too, I've had PGI decks that were really flat as well. If you're cool with a little bit of hips or "swoosh" or 🥄 as some people call it then you can get into some of the other woodshops like Pennswood silver spoon or hlc s1 or dwindle mellow kick (if you can find one). The only thing about the silver spoon is I'm pretty sure the tail is steeper than the nose, or at least that's how it feels.

If you go to the shop and start pulling everything off the wall and actually getting down at eye level or measuring it you might be surprised what you find. I think pretty much every woodshop has a mellow/flat mold, most just don't use them very often.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Tale Crab on June 06, 2023, 05:07:53 PM
There's flat boards but you have to know where to find them and it varies by size...PS has at least 2 flat molds that they regularly use though. The toy machine "mellow" 8.25 is one of the flattest boards you'll find in regular rotation and some other companies use it as well...I have a couple PS stix scumcos on it that I have stashed. If it wasn't 14.5 wb I'd probably have a stack of just toy machine decks. Not sure if it was a one-off but I've seen 8.12s out of that mold from someone too, I wanna say WKND maybe.
I emailed WKND a few weeks back and they told me that their 8.25CS is on the mellower PS101 mold, which I assume is what Toy Machine is using for their flatter stuff. Toy Machine never got back to me on my question regarding their molds, so I've been hesitant in ordering a stack of boards across the water without knowing for sure.
It's a huge bummer how these boards have become marginal as they've made way for the steep-nosed variety. I understand the remarks that the steeper PS boards sell well as shown by FA, Quasi, GX1000, WKND etc., but you you also can't buy what's not available. I'm sure a lot of mellow board lovers settle for DLX stack number IV boards because it can be a hassle to track down the mellow PS ones.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Ok on June 06, 2023, 06:00:13 PM
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There's flat boards but you have to know where to find them and it varies by size...PS has at least 2 flat molds that they regularly use though. The toy machine "mellow" 8.25 is one of the flattest boards you'll find in regular rotation and some other companies use it as well...I have a couple PS stix scumcos on it that I have stashed. If it wasn't 14.5 wb I'd probably have a stack of just toy machine decks. Not sure if it was a one-off but I've seen 8.12s out of that mold from someone too, I wanna say WKND maybe.
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I emailed WKND a few weeks back and they told me that their 8.25CS is on the mellower PS101 mold, which I assume is what Toy Machine is using for their flatter stuff. Toy Machine never got back to me on my question regarding their molds, so I've been hesitant in ordering a stack of boards across the water without knowing for sure.
It's a huge bummer how these boards have become marginal as they've made way for the steep-nosed variety. I understand the remarks that the steeper PS boards sell well as shown by FA, Quasi, GX1000, WKND etc., but you you also can't buy what's not available. I'm sure a lot of mellow board lovers settle for DLX stack number IV boards because it can be a hassle to track down the mellow PS ones.

i looked at some toy machine boards recently, were not ps, were not flat.
i’m always on the lookout for a flat 8, the last good one was a meow. cool. i’ve had a fair amount of quasi decks that were mellow, enough.
hope you find what you’re after
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: theloniousmonk on June 06, 2023, 06:18:32 PM
I’ve also been enjoying the ps mellow boards lately, and will say that the jeron Wilson 8.25“power og” deck is On that mellow ps concave. It’s supposed to be a gO52 but the tail is 6.5 because it’s not girl wood. I love that concave and find that I like the flexibility of the ps nanotubes before they die
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Fifty8mm on June 06, 2023, 06:34:09 PM
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Palace/DSM have flat rails, the kicks are steeper than most boards out there.

I have a PS stix Jovontae reissue 7.5  that is flat as fuck. Flat kicks and rails. Flatter than any DOA.

Doa flat as fuck was flat but had more concave than than the ps stix reissue.

Flattest board i have is a Sheffey Bull dog board. 

Sour boards are not flat. Even the low concave has steeper rails than palace 7.75 shape. The kicks are on the flatter side but not as flat as the two 7.5 girls i have or DOAs.

As of Right now the only real flat option is mini logo per DOA Steve and Nosneb. And those 2 mfrs are picky as fuck
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There's flat boards but you have to know where to find them and it varies by size...PS has at least 2 flat molds that they regularly use though. The toy machine "mellow" 8.25 is one of the flattest boards you'll find in regular rotation and some other companies use it as well...I have a couple PS stix scumcos on it that I have stashed. If it wasn't 14.5 wb I'd probably have a stack of just toy machine decks. Not sure if it was a one-off but I've seen 8.12s out of that mold from someone too, I wanna say WKND maybe. There's definitely flat options out of China too, I've had PGI decks that were really flat as well. If you're cool with a little bit of hips or "swoosh" or 🥄 as some people call it then you can get into some of the other woodshops like Pennswood silver spoon or hlc s1 or dwindle mellow kick (if you can find one). The only thing about the silver spoon is I'm pretty sure the tail is steeper than the nose, or at least that's how it feels.

If you go to the shop and start pulling everything off the wall and actually getting down at eye level or measuring it you might be surprised what you find. I think pretty much every woodshop has a mellow/flat mold, most just don't use them very often.

I actually had that mold sour. It was as flat on the rails as the palace. The flattest psstix i had recently was a Glue. Felt good for about the 1hr it lasted me. But it was pretty flat, still not as flat at the rails as a palace. Also had that one mellow concave on scumco. It was a Kyle Nicholson. The one with the beer cans. So good but delammed.

I found my shape and preference and its a 7.75 palace. Shit don't break but it ain't mosts cup of tea.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Sativa Lung on June 07, 2023, 03:46:29 AM
I’ve also been enjoying the ps mellow boards lately, and will say that the jeron Wilson 8.25“power og” deck is On that mellow ps concave. It’s supposed to be a gO52 but the tail is 6.5 because it’s not girl wood. I love that concave and find that I like the flexibility of the ps nanotubes before they die

I sometimes wonder whether crail regrets getting themselves tied up in a Chinese woodshop the way they did. The Mexican woodshops have done a really good job of minimizing or eliminating the competitive advantage China has. They sure seem to jump at any excuse to go back to riding the professors wood.

Not sure about the Jeron one because Im a skinny white guy and theres no way I could rock that graphic and not look like a chode, but I had some of the other boards from that mini PS run. I think the bannerot was one of the ones where the tail is steeper than the nose, is that Jeron deck like that?

I have one of the jovantae/Carroll 7.5 reissue on the 90s mold and it's crazy mellow and flat enough to eat off. I like some of the stuff that comes out of the slightly spoony PS molds too, the scumco Evan Smith guest boards were amazing and the WKND CT shape is a good one if you like short decks and wbs. They can get pretty mellow if you get a bottom stacker.

For the Toy Machine stuff - they use like 4 woodshops and each woodshop has it's own set of molds so it's best to look at them in person or hit up a friendly shop owner and ask if it's a PS (make sure it has the sn, some of the bbs and Chinese boards are laser engraved too) and for detailed pics before buying. Skate warehouse puts up good pics including profile shots so keep an eye on that if you're in the states, they usually have a decent selection of Toy stuff. Tumyeto usually lists the concave on their site but the way I typically identify the really flat stock shape is the oddball dimensions - 8.25" x 31.5" 14.5" wb. Keep an eye out for that and go in for a closer look if you see it.





 
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Ok on June 07, 2023, 06:10:31 AM
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I’ve also been enjoying the ps mellow boards lately, and will say that the jeron Wilson 8.25“power og” deck is On that mellow ps concave. It’s supposed to be a gO52 but the tail is 6.5 because it’s not girl wood. I love that concave and find that I like the flexibility of the ps nanotubes before they die
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I sometimes wonder whether crail regrets getting themselves tied up in a Chinese woodshop the way they did. The Mexican woodshops have done a really good job of minimizing or eliminating the competitive advantage China has. They sure seem to jump at any excuse to go back to riding the professors wood.

Not sure about the Jeron one because Im a skinny white guy and theres no way I could rock that graphic and not look like a chode, but I had some of the other boards from that mini PS run. I think the bannerot was one of the ones where the tail is steeper than the nose, is that Jeron deck like that?

I have one of the jovantae/Carroll 7.5 reissue on the 90s mold and it's crazy mellow and flat enough to eat off. I like some of the stuff that comes out of the slightly spoony PS molds too, the scumco Evan Smith guest boards were amazing and the WKND CT shape is a good one if you like short decks and wbs. They can get pretty mellow if you get a bottom stacker.

For the Toy Machine stuff - they use like 4 woodshops and each woodshop has it's own set of molds so it's best to look at them in person or hit up a friendly shop owner and ask if it's a PS (make sure it has the sn, some of the bbs and Chinese boards are laser engraved too) and for detailed pics before buying. Skate warehouse puts up good pics including profile shots so keep an eye on that if you're in the states, they usually have a decent selection of Toy stuff. Tumyeto usually lists the concave on their site but the way I typically identify the really flat stock shape is the oddball dimensions - 8.25" x 31.5" 14.5" wb. Keep an eye out for that and go in for a closer look if you see it.


i wish crail did more ps boards. or even pgi. the current wood lasts a long time, and i know that is the most important thing to every squeaky wheel consumer…boards need to last 4 months, trucks 3 years, or people
start whining.
i hate it.
from a waste perspective i like that things last longer. from a skate perspective, no. i broke a shilo great house board after an hour, and i dream fondly about that board 25 years later. it was really good until it broke.
and yes to whomever above the concave does make
boards last longer, and maybe stiffer.
the flex of the nanotubes gives more performance tho
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: ulpsb on July 13, 2023, 09:45:40 AM
Hey, anyone have any good leads on boards with mellow kicks like powell/minilogo but that actually have concave?
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: intendedreceivers on July 13, 2023, 12:55:57 PM
Hey, anyone have any good leads on boards with mellow kicks like powell/minilogo but that actually have concave?

I feel like the Ishod shape is kinda like this, but it’s a twin/symmetrical mold, so it’s likely a bit different than what you’re looking for…

(https://i.ibb.co/C29vVhh/ECBA8304-D0-CF-4005-80-DE-0-DEA4-C947869.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C29vVhh)
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: ulpsb on July 13, 2023, 01:14:17 PM
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Hey, anyone have any good leads on boards with mellow kicks like powell/minilogo but that actually have concave?
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I feel like the Ishod shape is kinda like this, but it’s a twin/symmetrical mold, so it’s likely a bit different than what you’re looking for…

(https://i.ibb.co/C29vVhh/ECBA8304-D0-CF-4005-80-DE-0-DEA4-C947869.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C29vVhh)
   

Ah yea but that wheelbase is prob 14 3/8? Thanks anyway tho appreciate the answer
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Sativa Lung on July 14, 2023, 02:21:38 AM
Hey, anyone have any good leads on boards with mellow kicks like powell/minilogo but that actually have concave?

PS has a couple molds that fit that description. The WKND CT one is the first that comes to mind, though that's a very short 8.25 so it takes some adjusting.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: smellsdead on July 14, 2023, 04:04:51 AM
current deck is fairly flat

8.5 snack krebs vision, pretty sure its ps stix
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Bill Salt on July 14, 2023, 05:21:42 AM
mellow is whack and loose truck don't save lives neither.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: ulpsb on July 14, 2023, 06:18:40 AM
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Hey, anyone have any good leads on boards with mellow kicks like powell/minilogo but that actually have concave?
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PS has a couple molds that fit that description. The WKND CT one is the first that comes to mind, though that's a very short 8.25 so it takes some adjusting.


I've been riding the deluxe true fits with 13.8 wb haha so im good with short.. I just don't like the kicks on them.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Ok on July 14, 2023, 04:32:32 PM
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Hey, anyone have any good leads on boards with mellow kicks like powell/minilogo but that actually have concave?
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PS has a couple molds that fit that description. The WKND CT one is the first that comes to mind, though that's a very short 8.25 so it takes some adjusting.
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I've been riding the deluxe true fits with 13.8 wb haha so im good with short.. I just don't like the kicks on them.

true fit was too steep for me, but i like flat, and mellow, and those were not that
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Daewons front truck on July 15, 2023, 03:14:13 PM
mellow is whack and loose truck don't save lives neither.

Ahh, I always find it funny when someone finds something that doesn't fit their personal preference stupid, lame or "whack." It's as if their experience is the only one that matters and what works for you most be the answer for the whole world! Personally, I dislike mellow boards but I don't think they "wack" they certainly serve a purpose. Although it may hurt the skating ability for you and I it may very well take someone else's skating to the next level.. Now, with that being said BLVD has some pretty damn mellow shapes. As mentioned girl and chocolate also have some pretty mellow concave but some also have steeper kicks.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: hiljentaa on July 28, 2023, 07:06:15 PM
Have had my Mini Logo 8" setup for about 7 weeks now. Still love this thing. Not soggy feeling at all.

I really love the 8" shape because the nose is only ~.25" longer than the tail. I am a horrendous switch/nollie skater, but that smaller difference seems to help me.

I have the Flight 8" to skate next, but I feel guilty setting it up when this board still has a week or two of life left in it.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Tom Pearl on July 28, 2023, 07:46:06 PM
i just got a 8.125 ps stix gx1000 and it's super flat
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Sativa Lung on July 29, 2023, 12:26:08 AM
i just got a 8.125 ps stix gx1000 and it's super flat

Yeah the 8.12 gx/quasi mold can come out really flat if you get bottom stackers, especially in the tail. Really, stack position and press settings probably have as much to do with how your board feels as the mold so it's always been kinda weird to me that only dlx and pennswood seem to care about it.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Nth syd bear on July 29, 2023, 12:35:28 AM
Have had my Mini Logo 8" setup for about 7 weeks now. Still love this thing. Not soggy feeling at all.

I really love the 8" shape because the nose is only ~.25" longer than the tail. I am a horrendous switch/nollie skater, but that smaller difference seems to help me.

I have the Flight 8" to skate next, but I feel guilty setting it up when this board still has a week or two of life left in it.

I'm skating the same deck, what trucks and wheels you skating?
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: ulpsb on July 29, 2023, 06:07:23 AM
Have had my Mini Logo 8" setup for about 7 weeks now. Still love this thing. Not soggy feeling at all.

I really love the 8" shape because the nose is only ~.25" longer than the tail. I am a horrendous switch/nollie skater, but that smaller difference seems to help me.

I have the Flight 8" to skate next, but I feel guilty setting it up when this board still has a week or two of life left in it.

That's kind of exactly what brought me here. I have the 8" non flight powell 242 shape. Prob the same as the mini logo. I love the mellow kicks of this mold and that's the nose and tail are very similar.
 I just feel that the lack of concave doesn't carry your feet as well while in the air. It's a me problem but I feel like I would be a little more consistent with my flip tricks. I liked everything else about it. 14" wheelbase etc..
 I just had 1 issue,  the qc. This board was horrible when it showed up, like the dude who routed and sanded the board was on his 1st day of work never doing this. The rails were completely crooked and almost squared at points. Like heroin razor edge but by accident and bad haha. But that shit is gone after a session or two so it's been been. Just never got a board with that bad of qc before. Also have never had a powell in my 20something years of skating...
 The newer royal ultralights left alone but couple turns in. Back n forth between 51mm spitfire tablets and 52 bones v3slims.

(https://i.ibb.co/PgzrCpq/20230720-213735.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PgzrCpq)
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: hiljentaa on July 29, 2023, 07:51:40 AM
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Have had my Mini Logo 8" setup for about 7 weeks now. Still love this thing. Not soggy feeling at all.

I really love the 8" shape because the nose is only ~.25" longer than the tail. I am a horrendous switch/nollie skater, but that smaller difference seems to help me.

I have the Flight 8" to skate next, but I feel guilty setting it up when this board still has a week or two of life left in it.
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I'm skating the same deck, what trucks and wheels you skating?

Venture 5.2 Lights and 52>49mm F4 Classics.

Just realized last night how small the wheels have gotten. Going to put some 52s on when I setup the Flight.

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Have had my Mini Logo 8" setup for about 7 weeks now. Still love this thing. Not soggy feeling at all.

I really love the 8" shape because the nose is only ~.25" longer than the tail. I am a horrendous switch/nollie skater, but that smaller difference seems to help me.

I have the Flight 8" to skate next, but I feel guilty setting it up when this board still has a week or two of life left in it.
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That's kind of exactly what brought me here. I have the 8" non flight powell 242 shape. Prob the same as the mini logo. I love the mellow kicks of this mold and that's the nose and tail are very similar.
 I just feel that the lack of concave doesn't carry your feet as well while in the air. It's a me problem but I feel like I would be a little more consistent with my flip tricks. I liked everything else about it. 14" wheelbase etc..
 I just had 1 issue,  the qc. This board was horrible when it showed up, like the dude who routed and sanded the board was on his 1st day of work never doing this. The rails were completely crooked and almost squared at points. Like heroin razor edge but by accident and bad haha. But that shit is gone after a session or two so it's been been. Just never got a board with that bad of qc before. Also have never had a powell in my 20something years of skating...
 The newer royal ultralights left alone but couple turns in. Back n forth between 51mm spitfire tablets and 52 bones v3slims.

(https://i.ibb.co/PgzrCpq/20230720-213735.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PgzrCpq)

The Mini Logos and non-Flight Powells are the same as far as I understand. The rails on mine are pretty square as well, but that doesn't bother me at all. Can't say they were routed or sanded unevenly at all.

Overall, psyched that I know I like these $35 boards when some stuff is $70+ these days.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: nosneb on July 31, 2023, 10:13:30 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/BqGDWPY/IMG-7227.jpg)
This is mellow. Thread/
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Thebird on January 04, 2024, 07:08:45 PM
I've seen Scumco mentioned in here.  I'm thinking about trying them out next.  Anyone know the wheelbase and length on the 8.125 and 8.0?
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: theloniousmonk on January 04, 2024, 07:13:58 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/BqGDWPY/IMG-7227.jpg)
This is mellow. Thread/
Hey @nosneb what deck is this?
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Woodshop on January 04, 2024, 08:02:11 PM
I've seen Scumco mentioned in here.  I'm thinking about trying them out next.  Anyone know the wheelbase and length on the 8.125 and 8.0?


It depends which woodshop, as they had changed a bit.

Last info had them on Control (2023), with some on BBS and PS Stix, but that was a while back now.


I would likely want to check a board in person more so than buying without looking at it, unless you will most likely be happy any which way.



Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Thebird on January 04, 2024, 08:26:03 PM
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I've seen Scumco mentioned in here.  I'm thinking about trying them out next.  Anyone know the wheelbase and length on the 8.125 and 8.0?
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It depends which woodshop, as they had changed a bit.

Last info had them on Control (2023), with some on BBS and PS Stix, but that was a while back now.


I would likely want to check a board in person more so than buying without looking at it, unless you will most likely be happy any which way.

Yeah, I was specifically checking out the PS ones they have on their site.  Curious about the shapes and dimensions.
Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Woodshop on January 05, 2024, 02:01:39 PM
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I've seen Scumco mentioned in here.  I'm thinking about trying them out next.  Anyone know the wheelbase and length on the 8.125 and 8.0?
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It depends which woodshop, as they had changed a bit.

Last info had them on Control (2023), with some on BBS and PS Stix, but that was a while back now.


I would likely want to check a board in person more so than buying without looking at it, unless you will most likely be happy any which way.
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Yeah, I was specifically checking out the PS ones they have on their site.  Curious about the shapes and dimensions.


I had a look and couldn't find anything anywhere, so you might have to message them about the specific boards.

Interesting they have PS Stix now, with some Pennswood boards too, currently on their site.  I put up more detailed info in the Woodshop thread, but nothing to help with sizes though.

Title: Re: Super mellow decks like this
Post by: Thebird on January 05, 2024, 06:04:11 PM
Good deal, thanks.  I emailed them.  I'm really interested in their boards - interested to hear the dimensions.