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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: trashparty on November 13, 2020, 12:58:54 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONqETis6nX0&ab_channel=ThrasherMagazine
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Would be awesome to see a winner who wasn't based in the United States. Tom absolutely deserves it, his run of footage and parts over the last 7 years primarily filmed by Jacob Harris has been amazing. From Eleventh Hour to this.
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He definitely puts it down for the mag since Atlantic Drift is a thrasher product. Not the craziest idea but pretty unlikely.
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As much as I wish this could happen, Mason kinda has it in the bag at this point. Real and Nike and him perfectly spaced out his insane parts throughout the year very strategically and I wouldn't be surprised if he comes out with one more mini part before the year is over.
I'm definitely a bigger fan of Tom and this part was amazing and 10 minutes long but it just doesn't seem likely
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That was a gorgeous video; Tom is top notch.
I really enjoy all of his output.
Afraid it won't do the trick though, when stacked next to the competition.
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Heavy Lost and Found vibes
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epic. some of his tricks are mindboggling. like how did you come up with this. and then do it on all those crusty ass spots.
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rare quality of always keeping you guessing which trick he's gunna do next
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He's skating is creative and he's good but Mason is in a whole other league that this cat can't even step to. Besides his Speed Freaks part is way better.
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(https://i.imgur.com/NNEdc4d.png)
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the intro showing his name multiple times reminded me of this
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Jesus guys he's nothing to write home about.
Can we just think about previous SOTYs? Reynolds, cardiel, way, ishod.
Knox? Nope.
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I think after watching that part once I only absorbed about 20% of it. So much happened. And it was all good.
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Hes good but its not happening
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http://youtu.be/ZnfusJ5R42c
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He gets my vote if that maters in any way.
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You got your Tom's wrong. Tom Karangelon just put a part out with way better trick/spot selection. both are dope. Both are not SOTY material.
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Jesus guys he's nothing to write home about.
Can we just think about previous SOTYs? Reynolds, cardiel, way, ishod.
Knox? Nope.
None of those dudes are touching the spots Tom Knox is skating or doing seven trick lines, except maybe Ishod and even that’s a stretch re: spots.
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only thing saving this thread is boomer new jenna fisher pic and sig
edit : I'm down with tom knox soty and it saddens me that it won't happen
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I mean if Fred Gall is busy, sure Tom Knox will have to do...
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Jesus guys he's nothing to write home about.
Can we just think about previous SOTYs? Reynolds, cardiel, way, ishod.
Knox? Nope.
would much rather watch tom skate than any of the people you listed.
California skating is so stale. we need something fresh.
the UK scene has become so sick over the last few years and i think tom is a good posterchild. plus his skating is SOTY worthy in my eyes. mason will probably take it, but id love to see a SOTY who is actually opening new doors for skating.
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Jesus guys he's nothing to write home about.
Can we just think about previous SOTYs? Reynolds, cardiel, way, ishod.
Knox? Nope.
would much rather watch tom skate than any of the people you listed.
California skating is so stale. we need something fresh.
the UK scene has become so sick over the last few years and i think tom is a good posterchild. plus his skating is SOTY worthy in my eyes. mason will probably take it, but id love to see a SOTY who is actually opening new doors for skating.
Completely agree
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I mean if Fred Gall is busy, sure Tom Knox will have to do...
fred gall soty for life
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You got your Tom's wrong. Tom Karangelon just put a part out with way better trick/spot selection. both are dope. Both are not SOTY material.
it was pretty obvious the dude was confined to the UK because of the lockdown, plus the shit tom knox is doing in the crust of london is way more appreciated than the perfect spots the other tom k is skating in perfect southern california
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A legitimate contender with the other three duds.
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This dude may even be quicker than Suciu. Wild. And the lines just kept going. I swear some of the lines I thought they were done and they weren't even half over. I think I'm winded after 3 tricks. ;D
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He should get extra points for doing all that on cobblestone and shit, but I’m still voting Mason. Dude rules for real though. I hope he’s around for a long time.
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Would love to see Tom Knox take the SoTY on behalf of all the boys of Atlantic Drift, who are collectively the best thing skateboarding has going for it and have been for years. They dominate Thrasher.
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It'll be like every year where the skater that does the most interesting stuff loses out to some maniac that pushed the limits with the hugest kickflip and lipslide.
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It'll be like every year where the skater that does the most interesting stuff loses out to some maniac that pushed the limits with the hugest kickflip and lipslide.
you mean back 3
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Jesus guys he's nothing to write home about.
Can we just think about previous SOTYs? Reynolds, cardiel, way, ishod.
Knox? Nope.
I highly suggest you quit skating
Voting for Tom even though I think it will either go to louie or mason, Nick Michel deserves to be in the running also.
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as soon as somebody does a slappy wally or no comply it cReAtIve
sick dude
mason miles hyun tom
my top 4
It's creative because legitimately none of the other skaters you mentioned would even think of trying to skate the spots Tom skates, maybe Mason would, but he wouldn't be doing 5 trick lines.
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Daan
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Would be stoked if this happened.
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Jesus guys he's nothing to write home about.
Can we just think about previous SOTYs? Reynolds, cardiel, way, ishod.
Knox? Nope.
Are you ok?
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He gets my vote if that maters in any way.
Have a gnar
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You got your Tom's wrong. Tom Karangelon just put a part out with way better trick/spot selection. both are dope. Both are not SOTY material.
it was pretty obvious the dude was confined to the UK because of the lockdown, plus the shit tom knox is doing in the crust of london is way more appreciated than the perfect spots the other tom k is skating in perfect southern california
Now just wait a god damn minute big boy Benz. SoCal is not perfect when visiting I’ve had to drive or skate as many as 8 blocks to find a respectable vegan restaurant but when skating there I usually only have to push twice to make a city block
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My favourite is when this descends into people just sounding off their favourite skater.
SOTY has been about quantity of output thinly veiled with “quality” there have been some atrocious decisions in the past based on this format.
Mason is deserving as is Tom.
If Tom Knox won it would really mark a change in Thrashers some what, historically, blinkered view of skating (granted it will always be skewed due to its physical location) it would also establish that British/European skateboarding is on the level of past winners.
It would ultimately make clear that achievement in skateboarding isn’t based on purely shock value and instead merit that can be measured by actually quality.
It would finally put credence to the over used statement “skateboarding is an artform” as we would be measuring on technically ability, intent, consideration and composition. Not just stair counting or click bait stunts.
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My favourite is when this descends into people just sounding off their favourite skater.
SOTY has been about quantity of output thinly veiled with “quality” there have been some atrocious decisions in the past based on this format.
Mason is deserving as is Tom.
If Tom Knox won it would really mark a change in Thrashers some what, historically, blinkered view of skating (granted it will always be skewed due to its physical location) it would also establish that British/European skateboarding is on the level of past winners.
It would ultimately make clear that achievement in skateboarding isn’t based on purely shock value and instead merit that can be measured by actually quality.
It would finally put credence to the over used statement “skateboarding is an artform” as we would be measuring on technically ability, intent, consideration and composition. Not just stair counting or click bait stunts.
I feel like that's how it was until the last 10 years or so. Growing up, I don't remember it being a big deal, or any sort of campaign or push, it was kind of like, "oh, that's well deserved" when the issue came out.
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Jesus guys he's nothing to write home about.
Can we just think about previous SOTYs? Reynolds, cardiel, way, ishod.
Knox? Nope.
Hey man reddit has a skateboarding subreddit you might be more at home posting there.
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SOTY is unlikely but he does seem obsessively productive. A misserable when not skating and-even misserable when skating kind of type. Might be due to the edit though.
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Jeez you guys get such a hard on for Tom Knox, he’s a decent pro, as Windsor Knot said earlier he’s nothing to write home about.
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Jeez you guys get such a hard on for Tom Knox, he’s a decent pro, as Windsor Knot said earlier he’s nothing to write home about.
lol ok mate
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It wouldn’t be bad after last year’s robbery
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If Suciu didn't get it....you think the English version would?
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If Suciu didn't get it....you think the English version would?
hahahahah this made me laugh.
knox is a lot more creative than suciu imo, but yeah ur right
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Jeez you guys get such a hard on for Tom Knox, he’s a decent pro, as Windsor Knot said earlier he’s nothing to write home about.
you seem like you wear a chris cole wristband.
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It's long overdue. His Speed Freaks part is legendary.
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as soon as somebody does a slappy wally or no comply it cReAtIve
sick dude
mason miles hyun tom
my top 4
Yeah, how often do you see guys going to the UK and leaving their trip with hammers, most of it is just Southbank stuff. That shit is rough as hell to skate. Especially the cobblestone and brink stuff Tom has a ton of footage at it.
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Jeez you guys get such a hard on for Tom Knox, he’s a decent pro, as Windsor Knot said earlier he’s nothing to write home about.
you seem like you wear a chris cole wristband.
James Bond villains wear Windsor Knots.
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as soon as somebody does a slappy wally or no comply it cReAtIve
sick dude
mason miles hyun tom
my top 4
Fuck off twat, I don’t even remember him doing a single no comply
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Jeez you guys get such a hard on for Tom Knox, he’s a decent pro, as Windsor Knot said earlier he’s nothing to write home about.
You should quit skating and find a hobby that would suit your aversion to creativity more.
Also while I get the Suciu comparison I find Tom's skating more entertaining, think it comes down to spot collection and just style overall.
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Chewy Cannon SOTY
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scott chegg soty
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scott chegg soty
Fuck it I would vote for myself
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Alf for soty
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" Skateboarding is not an art, skateboarding is something that turns your ordinary surroundings into art. " -- Ragdoll. I'd vote for Tom Knox!!
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Tom Knox would never stoop so low as to make a calculated effort to win SOTY
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" Skateboarding is not an art, skateboarding is something that turns your ordinary surroundings into art. " -- Ragdoll. I'd vote for Tom Knox!!
Put him on poets
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Tom Knox would never stoop so low as to make a calculated effort to win SOTY
And that’s why he should win soty
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Tom Knox would never stoop so low as to make a calculated effort to win SOTY
And that’s why he should win soty
yup, this
not to mention he killed it this year
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He's my SOTY for sure.
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Looking strictly at footage
What Tom released this past year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONqETis6nX0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLQn9kQxsZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF9qYEW1K8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJItD_o5lyY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzsp5mDLsB8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uojvOQWWPNQ
(https://www.ambassadors.eu/image/cache/catalog/Thrasher/magazines%202020/th0220cover_650px-1200x1200.dd95c7d883d32f109cf43dda3e81b28a.jpg)
What Mason released this year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVU9ipxtI_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib2d29geW2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk2WhcTs7Yc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH19hcj3SoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEGWuZC91ck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ7hLFmgmi8
(https://www.blacksheepstore.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/602x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/7/a/7a734c57c5d642a320012b8bf1c1dad7.jpg)
What Fred Gall released this year:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NndTmcGY7VA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uItaGOxSN7Q
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They are both worthy.
Again it just comes to to tech vs gnarly
Gnarly almost always wins it seems..... Hellride and all that.
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They are both worthy.
Again it just comes to to tech vs gnarly
Gnarly almost always wins it seems..... Hellride and all that.
Yeah you're probably right, Gall has it locked.
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scott chegg soty
No way, man; I eat Scott Chegg for breakfast!
(https://assets.bonappetit.com/photos/57e162dfbf7e91497a10e093/1:1/w_1024%2Cc_limit/how-to-make-a-scotch-egg-4.jpg)
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I like Mason but I never rewatch his parts. This Tom Knox part however will be embedded in my psyche for a very long time.
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No way, man; I eat Scott Chegg for breakfast!
(https://assets.bonappetit.com/photos/57e162dfbf7e91497a10e093/1:1/w_1024%2Cc_limit/how-to-make-a-scotch-egg-4.jpg)
Ur an animal, scotch egg is more suitable for lunch
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No way, man; I eat Scott Chegg for breakfast!
(https://assets.bonappetit.com/photos/57e162dfbf7e91497a10e093/1:1/w_1024%2Cc_limit/how-to-make-a-scotch-egg-4.jpg)
Ur an animal, scotch egg is more suitable for lunch
I’m fiddin’a get that Cole S. Terol in where I can; packin’ on those COVID pounds.
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I like Mason but I never rewatch his parts. This Tom Knox part however will be embedded in my psyche for a very long time.
EXACTLY THIS. I have never rewatched a whole Mason part - maybe rewinded to see something again, but not the whole part. Tom, and this part, has been on repeat a few times already. His lines and ability to surprise, especially on crusty spots, is where he leaves all the Californian skaters behind.
Also, the fact that this part was filmed during a phase where he got married and had two kids, is mind-boggling. Anyone out there with small kids at home knows how hard it is to develop, or even maintain the skate skills while dealing with the stuff at home.
Come on, Thrasher, it's time for something new and fresh! Mason will keep producing stuff in the next years, he can get it another time. Tom Knox has my vote.
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Jesus guys he's nothing to write home about.
Can we just think about previous SOTYs? Reynolds, cardiel, way, ishod.
Knox? Nope.
Bad take
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last year it came down to a choice between art or war.............maybe this year they will go for art......
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No way, man; I eat Scott Chegg for breakfast!
(https://assets.bonappetit.com/photos/57e162dfbf7e91497a10e093/1:1/w_1024%2Cc_limit/how-to-make-a-scotch-egg-4.jpg)
Ur an animal, scotch egg is more suitable for lunch
Good pun
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I like Mason but I never rewatch his parts. This Tom Knox part however will be embedded in my psyche for a very long time.
EXACTLY THIS. I have never rewatched a whole Mason part - maybe rewinded to see something again, but not the whole part. Tom, and this part, has been on repeat a few times already. His lines and ability to surprise, especially on crusty spots, is where he leaves all the Californian skaters behind.
Also, the fact that this part was filmed during a phase where he got married and had two kids, is mind-boggling. Anyone out there with small kids at home knows how hard it is to develop, or even maintain the skate skills while dealing with the stuff at home.
Come on, Thrasher, it's time for something new and fresh! Mason will keep producing stuff in the next years, he can get it another time. Tom Knox has my vote.
100%.
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As much as I'd like this to happen, I highly doubt it will.
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my personal choice for SOTY is Tom, but I'll be blown away if he wins it.
I think it's gotta be Mason.
but part of the year is this new Tom Knox part, hands down.
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I like Mason but I never rewatch his parts. This Tom Knox part however will be embedded in my psyche for a very long time.
exactly. mason kills it, but theres nothing that separates him from the next guy who decides to skate really big shit that year. just kind of a cut and paste skater imo. not hating at all, mason is sick, but theres just not that much substance to his skating other than big features.
tom is one of a kind. the only comparison i can see that is somewhat plausible is suciu. and suciu sure as hell isnt skating the spots tom is. or with the same kind of creativity.
either skater deserves it, they both put in a lot of work this year, but i think it would be really sick to see Tom win it.
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Jesus guys he's nothing to write home about.
Can we just think about previous SOTYs? Reynolds, cardiel, way, ishod.
Knox? Nope.
Yeah but would Tom Knox touch any of the spots Mason skates?
I do like Tom though. Great part and he is one of the best out right now.
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Tom Knox should pass soty and go straight to a hall of famer. We all just want to see an atlantic drift style soty trip anyways. Best thing about Tom is that we all know he'll keep chugging on getting footage same speed regardless, dude has 3 kids already as well, unstoppable force that. I'd like to see any other 2020 candidates achieve that amount of pure gold footage while being a dad at the same time.
Plus it took a year of living in London to fully gage his ridiculousness. Walking past places completely unskatable, wouldn't even think twice about it even being a spot and realising he'd managed to make something filmable out of it is crazy.
Big fan of Mason also, but a brit soty would be kinda cool
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Yeah but would Tom Knox touch any of the spots Mason skates?
I do like Tom though. Great part and he is one of the best out right now.
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And what would Mason do at the spots Tom Knox skates? call up some fat ass old white dudes named rhino or big pink or scuba steve, sit in traffic for 3.5 hours, bondo the shit out of a spot and light it up until it looks like a skate park, then build some sort of roll in off the top of a cargo van and then and try and frontside 180 over the entire thing for the cover page of CCS dot com?
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I back Tom Knox for soty all day.
Also I'm glad I got to see that cover was in a line.
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I've rewatched this part a lot over the past two days, and I can say I see it now.
Thrasher would definitely be pulling a reverse of last year, where the psycho skater who did a big cover trick into a gnarly bank won it over the skater who put out an epic part that, really, could've been sliced into three parts over the year to make it seem more impressive. But is it that inconceivable that they change it up, especially with Phelps gone?
Mason is more 'skate and destroy', but Tom Knox has done plenty for Thrasher, and it has been a while since they have given this type of skater the award (Wes Kremer? Silas?).
I would love to see Tom win just because, unlike Suciu last year, it so much less of a campaign. It just feels like everything came together for Knox in this video and he did something special by just doing what he always does and magic happened. Whereas other skaters are trying really hard and it shows.
Truly it probably comes down to whom has committed more advertising for 2021, Nike or NB.
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I like Mason but I never rewatch his parts. This Tom Knox part however will be embedded in my psyche for a very long time.
exactly. mason kills it, but theres nothing that separates him from the next guy who decides to skate really big shit that year. just kind of a cut and paste skater imo. not hating at all, mason is sick, but theres just not that much substance to his skating other than big features.
tom is one of a kind. the only comparison i can see that is somewhat plausible is suciu. and suciu sure as hell isnt skating the spots tom is. or with the same kind of creativity.
either skater deserves it, they both put in a lot of work this year, but i think it would be really sick to see Tom win it.
I really can't agree with that. There is literally nobody in the world that can do the tricks that Mason is doing with the same amount of speed and power. There's lots of skaters who skate big stuff and/or skate fast but mason is in a league totally all his own. Some previous sotys fit into that category but mason is a once in a generation kind of skater imo.
Not to say that Tom dosen't potentially deserve it, I was on team suciu when milton won it, but I don't think mason is "copy and paste" in the slightest.
And realistically this is the Thrasher skater of the year. He embodies their ethos perfectly. No bullshit, fast, and aggressive skateboarding. He's pretty much won it in my eye unless dickson or evan put out a godly part before years end.
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And to be honest some of the shit Tom is doing is way more hairball than Mason, more than enough crustys to roof high drops for this father of three to earn his gnar badge. Chris Jones, Remy, Casper, Mikey, all those dudes are sketchy as hell. At the end of the day he's the star of Atlantic Drift and that says more than a SoTY.
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Yeah but would Tom Knox touch any of the spots Mason skates?
I do like Tom though. Great part and he is one of the best out right now.
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And what would Mason do at the spots Tom Knox skates? call up some fat ass old white dudes named rhino or big pink or scuba steve, sit in traffic for 3.5 hours, bondo the shit out of a spot and light it up until it looks like a skate park, then build some sort of roll in off the top of a cargo van and then and try and frontside 180 over the entire thing for the cover page of CCS dot com?
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Hahah I like mason’s skating but this is hilarious
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Jesus guys he's nothing to write home about.
Can we just think about previous SOTYs? Reynolds, cardiel, way, ishod.
Knox? Nope.
Yeah but would Tom Knox touch any of the spots Mason skates?
I do like Tom though. Great part and he is one of the best out right now.
For the most part, no (although they have filmed a few clips on the same spots). But I didn’t mean to turn this into a dick measuring competition between the two skaters, I was just pointing out that Tom is in a league of his own when it comes to spot selection, albeit in a less flashy way.
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I know which person gets me hyped to skate and skates the most absurd (and crustiest spots).
I'm just biased 'cause I'm one of those weird British people.
Also this;
Heavy Lost and Found vibes
Love the Atlantic Drift edits, gives me that feeling Blueprint vids gave me as a wean growing up.
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I know which person gets me hyped to skate and skates the most absurd (and crustiest spots).
I'm just biased 'cause I'm one of those weird British people.
Also this;
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Heavy Lost and Found vibes
Love the Atlantic Drift edits, gives me that feeling Blueprint vids gave me as a wean growing up.
https://youtu.be/I5VaPQflLq0
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I know which person gets me hyped to skate and skates the most absurd (and crustiest spots).
I'm just biased 'cause I'm one of those weird British people.
Also this;
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Heavy Lost and Found vibes
Love the Atlantic Drift edits, gives me that feeling Blueprint vids gave me as a wean growing up.
https://youtu.be/I5VaPQflLq0
My day's made better by someone referencing Limmy back to me.
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Yes! I really liked his SpeedFreaks part
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They could have split this part into 4 parts conveniently spread out over the year, and Tom still wouldn't get it. There's no way it's not going to be Mason. The award doesn't mean much without Phelps- he was able to make more unexpected choices like Silas or Tyshawn but without him it's always just going to be the most Thrasher branded obvious choice.
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As much as I wish this could happen, Mason kinda has it in the bag at this point. Real and Nike and him perfectly spaced out his insane parts throughout the year very strategically and I wouldn't be surprised if he comes out with one more mini part before the year is over.
I'm definitely a bigger fan of Tom and this part was amazing and 10 minutes long but it just doesn't seem likely
Quoting myself here because my prediction was right, new spitfire part up
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As much as I wish this could happen, Mason kinda has it in the bag at this point. Real and Nike and him perfectly spaced out his insane parts throughout the year very strategically and I wouldn't be surprised if he comes out with one more mini part before the year is over.
I'm definitely a bigger fan of Tom and this part was amazing and 10 minutes long but it just doesn't seem likely
Quoting myself here because my prediction was right, new spitfire part up
And with that, it is decided (more or less.) Sure would've been nice to see Tom hoist Rusty, though.
I would've been keen to seen an Atlantic Drift SOTY tour.
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So good watching him talk about putting a line together.
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/videos/out-there-tom-knox/
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ah yes, another milton vs suciu...
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Tom knox part was great but your just a hipster fuck if you think he should get SOTY over mason because he does creative tricks at rough spots.
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You got your Tom's wrong. Tom Karangelon just put a part out with way better trick/spot selection. both are dope. Both are not SOTY material.
I 100% disagree. I’m a fan of Tom Karengelov, but for me doesn’t get better than the Tom Knox and Jacob Harris combo. But that’s the beauty of skating everyone digs different shit.
Doubt Knox will get it, but it would be sick.
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Tom knox part was great but your just a hipster fuck if you think he should get SOTY over mason because he does creative tricks at rough spots.
ur a fucking bellend
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tom knox does cool shit
i need a gimmick
mason silva american ditch skating so fucking boring
cant remember any tricks
and i dont even know milton martinez face because hes so blend
soty doesnt mean shit. the coolest skating will always happen somewhere else.
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I’m cool with either guy, both are rad
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Both are pushing boundaries in very different ways.
Tom’s parts are more « artistic » with the whole Altlantic Drift thing, he’s got quick feet, skates crusty spots and his lines and spot selection are top notch. I like the dynamic duo he forms with Jacob Harris, they compliment each other work. I also like he’s a married guy with kids.
Mason is more « California » but damn he’s got a great style, skates so fast, ollies into massive banks and he does sweet 360s. Yep he skates spots we already saw in videos but the tricks he does are a step forward. He seems like a genuine guy too.
Difficult to chose, if I had to vote, maybe I’d vote for Tom because I’m European and I grew up watching Lost & Found... but damn tough choice.
That said, both have a great exposure on Thrasher (interviews, parts, features...). Mason has the California / Real connexion. I rewatched Knox’s Nine Club and he said Tony Vitello asked him & Jacob Harris to have a series on Thrasher after the Vase premiere in LA.
Fun fact : Vitello seems to be a Tottenham fan (who knew that dude was into football) and Knox is from that part of London.
But yeah Mason is more « hellride » than Knox, even if he has more finesse that Milton. So yeah I bet Mason will win.
They probably don’t care that much about SOTY, they already have a great career, it’s an excuse / motivation to put out incredible parts for us skaterats. (And great exposure for their sponsors too ::) )
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Tom knox part was great but your just a hipster fuck if you think he should get SOTY over mason because he does creative tricks at rough spots.
ur a fucking bellend
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I feel like people who think Tom Knox skates deliberately crusty spots really just don't know what street skating in England is like. Most spots are pretty fucked, its not California, or even New York. And a huge amount of towns and cities have been neglected and gone into varying degrees of disrepair. England is generally just a bit fucked, so you skate whatever you can find.
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I feel like people who think Tom Knox skates deliberately crusty spots really just don't know what street skating in England is like. Most spots are pretty fucked, its not California, or even New York. And a huge amount of towns and cities have been neglected and gone into varying degrees of disrepair. England is generally just a bit fucked, so you skate whatever you can find.
fr, i used to live in England, and since coming to the states every "street spot" is basically a skatepark. when i took a trip to so-cal it blew my mind that you could take 3/4 pushes and be at the end of the block.
oregon/washington is an exception tho, you boys got some crust/tough spots. Seattle is one of my favorite cities to skate because of how demanding/tough the spots can be. so much more rewarding to get a trick on something crusty/unique than it is to get something at a park level street spot. seattle is definitely on par with a lot of londons spots. still not quite as rough tho
anyways, thats part of what makes toms skating so sick to me. making something out of nothing, and making it look damn good. he's the only person touching a lot of those spots too.
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My favourite is when this descends into people just sounding off their favourite skater.
SOTY has been about quantity of output thinly veiled with “quality” there have been some atrocious decisions in the past based on this format.
Mason is deserving as is Tom.
If Tom Knox won it would really mark a change in Thrashers some what, historically, blinkered view of skating (granted it will always be skewed due to its physical location) it would also establish that British/European skateboarding is on the level of past winners.
It would ultimately make clear that achievement in skateboarding isn’t based on purely shock value and instead merit that can be measured by actually quality.
It would finally put credence to the over used statement “skateboarding is an artform” as we would be measuring on technically ability, intent, consideration and composition. Not just stair counting or click bait stunts.
Rowley from England, Arto from Finland..
Dont really care about who's soty or not, but tom's part was the best part in a really long time and it would be nice if he could get it..
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My favourite is when this descends into people just sounding off their favourite skater.
SOTY has been about quantity of output thinly veiled with “quality” there have been some atrocious decisions in the past based on this format.
Mason is deserving as is Tom.
If Tom Knox won it would really mark a change in Thrashers some what, historically, blinkered view of skating (granted it will always be skewed due to its physical location) it would also establish that British/European skateboarding is on the level of past winners.
It would ultimately make clear that achievement in skateboarding isn’t based on purely shock value and instead merit that can be measured by actually quality.
It would finally put credence to the over used statement “skateboarding is an artform” as we would be measuring on technically ability, intent, consideration and composition. Not just stair counting or click bait stunts.
Rowley from England, Arto from Finland..
Dont really care about who's soty or not, but tom's part was the best part in a really long time and it would be nice if he could get it..
True but as someone mentioned earlier, they were both California based for some Years by then.
Also Penny never won?!
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My favourite is when this descends into people just sounding off their favourite skater.
SOTY has been about quantity of output thinly veiled with “quality” there have been some atrocious decisions in the past based on this format.
Mason is deserving as is Tom.
If Tom Knox won it would really mark a change in Thrashers some what, historically, blinkered view of skating (granted it will always be skewed due to its physical location) it would also establish that British/European skateboarding is on the level of past winners.
It would ultimately make clear that achievement in skateboarding isn’t based on purely shock value and instead merit that can be measured by actually quality.
It would finally put credence to the over used statement “skateboarding is an artform” as we would be measuring on technically ability, intent, consideration and composition. Not just stair counting or click bait stunts.
Rowley from England, Arto from Finland..
Dont really care about who's soty or not, but tom's part was the best part in a really long time and it would be nice if he could get it..
True but as someone mentioned earlier, they were both California based for some Years by then.
Also Penny never won?!
It’s more surprising Gonz has never won
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My favourite is when this descends into people just sounding off their favourite skater.
SOTY has been about quantity of output thinly veiled with “quality” there have been some atrocious decisions in the past based on this format.
Mason is deserving as is Tom.
If Tom Knox won it would really mark a change in Thrashers some what, historically, blinkered view of skating (granted it will always be skewed due to its physical location) it would also establish that British/European skateboarding is on the level of past winners.
It would ultimately make clear that achievement in skateboarding isn’t based on purely shock value and instead merit that can be measured by actually quality.
It would finally put credence to the over used statement “skateboarding is an artform” as we would be measuring on technically ability, intent, consideration and composition. Not just stair counting or click bait stunts.
Rowley from England, Arto from Finland..
Dont really care about who's soty or not, but tom's part was the best part in a really long time and it would be nice if he could get it..
True but as someone mentioned earlier, they were both California based for some Years by then.
Also Penny never won?!
It’s more surprising Gonz has never won
Very true although i don’t think SOTY was a thing until later than peak Gonz!
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My favourite is when this descends into people just sounding off their favourite skater.
SOTY has been about quantity of output thinly veiled with “quality” there have been some atrocious decisions in the past based on this format.
Mason is deserving as is Tom.
If Tom Knox won it would really mark a change in Thrashers some what, historically, blinkered view of skating (granted it will always be skewed due to its physical location) it would also establish that British/European skateboarding is on the level of past winners.
It would ultimately make clear that achievement in skateboarding isn’t based on purely shock value and instead merit that can be measured by actually quality.
It would finally put credence to the over used statement “skateboarding is an artform” as we would be measuring on technically ability, intent, consideration and composition. Not just stair counting or click bait stunts.
Rowley from England, Arto from Finland..
Dont really care about who's soty or not, but tom's part was the best part in a really long time and it would be nice if he could get it..
True but as someone mentioned earlier, they were both California based for some Years by then.
Also Penny never won?!
It’s more surprising Gonz has never won
Very true although i don’t think SOTY was a thing until later than peak Gonz!
Huh? It’s been an award since at least 1990 (can’t be arsed to look up actual year)
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I feel like people who think Tom Knox skates deliberately crusty spots really just don't know what street skating in England is like. Most spots are pretty fucked, its not California, or even New York. And a huge amount of towns and cities have been neglected and gone into varying degrees of disrepair. England is generally just a bit fucked, so you skate whatever you can find.
fr, i used to live in England, and since coming to the states every "street spot" is basically a skatepark. when i took a trip to so-cal it blew my mind that you could take 3/4 pushes and be at the end of the block.
oregon/washington is an exception tho, you boys got some crust/tough spots. Seattle is one of my favorite cities to skate because of how demanding/tough the spots can be. so much more rewarding to get a trick on something crusty/unique than it is to get something at a park level street spot. seattle is definitely on par with a lot of londons spots. still not quite as rough tho
anyways, thats part of what makes toms skating so sick to me. making something out of nothing, and making it look damn good. he's the only person touching a lot of those spots too.
wouldn't say that's the case. i've grown up skating in seattle and I think people exaggerate when they talk about how "crusty" it is. especially now that tech has taken over the city, so much of the city has been revamped with smooth, grey, boring concrete. london is about 10x crustier than seattle
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My favourite is when this descends into people just sounding off their favourite skater.
SOTY has been about quantity of output thinly veiled with “quality” there have been some atrocious decisions in the past based on this format.
Mason is deserving as is Tom.
If Tom Knox won it would really mark a change in Thrashers some what, historically, blinkered view of skating (granted it will always be skewed due to its physical location) it would also establish that British/European skateboarding is on the level of past winners.
It would ultimately make clear that achievement in skateboarding isn’t based on purely shock value and instead merit that can be measured by actually quality.
It would finally put credence to the over used statement “skateboarding is an artform” as we would be measuring on technically ability, intent, consideration and composition. Not just stair counting or click bait stunts.
Rowley from England, Arto from Finland..
Dont really care about who's soty or not, but tom's part was the best part in a really long time and it would be nice if he could get it..
True but as someone mentioned earlier, they were both California based for some Years by then.
Also Penny never won?!
It’s more surprising Gonz has never won
Very true although i don’t think SOTY was a thing until later than peak Gonz!
Huh? It’s been an award since at least 1990 (can’t be arsed to look up actual year)
Sorry, my bad memory, I thought it started around 95 but you’re right it’s 1990. I didn’t skate from 92-97 so wasn’t paying much attention!
Gonz is a glaring omission!
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I feel like people who think Tom Knox skates deliberately crusty spots really just don't know what street skating in England is like. Most spots are pretty fucked, its not California, or even New York. And a huge amount of towns and cities have been neglected and gone into varying degrees of disrepair. England is generally just a bit fucked, so you skate whatever you can find.
fr, i used to live in England, and since coming to the states every "street spot" is basically a skatepark. when i took a trip to so-cal it blew my mind that you could take 3/4 pushes and be at the end of the block.
oregon/washington is an exception tho, you boys got some crust/tough spots. Seattle is one of my favorite cities to skate because of how demanding/tough the spots can be. so much more rewarding to get a trick on something crusty/unique than it is to get something at a park level street spot. seattle is definitely on par with a lot of londons spots. still not quite as rough tho
anyways, thats part of what makes toms skating so sick to me. making something out of nothing, and making it look damn good. he's the only person touching a lot of those spots too.
I live in England and even the skateparks are shit, the ledge at my local is sticky af and everything is rly steep and close together
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That’s so true... I’ll try and post a pic of the super crusty bowl in my town. The flat bottom is super rough and there’s gaps between the coping and the wall / platforms
This is my local slappy spot - it’s as good as it gets round here.......
(https://i.ibb.co/TTmDVc4/F64586-B9-26-F2-4-A77-8-E78-042495-E9-ACC1.png) (https://ibb.co/TTmDVc4)
Edit.... her you go. Zoom in on the coping on the left!
(https://i.ibb.co/rGx2Vyj/CDC935-EB-3117-417-F-950-F-765-C8-A1231-FB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rGx2Vyj)
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You guys really didn't get how SOTY and Thrasher work after all this years or you guys just have a hard on in rooting for the underdog? And the attempts to bash Mason are ridiculous, he's not relatable but he goes fast, stomps hard and has a great trick selection and creativity considering the spots he skates, people seem to forget your options dwindle down as you do bigger stuff.
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That’s so true... I’ll try and post a pic of the super crusty bowl in my town. The flat bottom is super rough and there’s gaps between the coping and the wall / platforms
This is my local slappy spot - it’s as good as it gets round here.......
(https://i.ibb.co/TTmDVc4/F64586-B9-26-F2-4-A77-8-E78-042495-E9-ACC1.png) (https://ibb.co/TTmDVc4)
Edit.... her you go. Zoom in on the coping on the left!
(https://i.ibb.co/rGx2Vyj/CDC935-EB-3117-417-F-950-F-765-C8-A1231-FB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rGx2Vyj)
Mine is shit but yours takes the cake
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mason silva american ditch skating so fucking boring
The fuck are you talking about? You've got to be the only person alive who thinks this.
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Tom knox part was great but your just a hipster fuck if you think he should get SOTY over mason because he does creative tricks at rough spots.
ur a fucking bellend
Thank you for making me google that word and now having a new insult.
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mason silva american ditch skating so fucking boring
The fuck are you talking about? You've got to be the only person alive who thinks this.
He's not, I agree there. But I do think Mason is really good
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I feel like people who think Tom Knox skates deliberately crusty spots really just don't know what street skating in England is like. Most spots are pretty fucked, its not California, or even New York. And a huge amount of towns and cities have been neglected and gone into varying degrees of disrepair. England is generally just a bit fucked, so you skate whatever you can find.
there's some interview where he vaguely mentions that about the spots and how it's basically just making the best out of a bad situation - everyone in england knows they're pretty shit, but at the same time you just make do with what you've got regardless of if it's crusty or not and for the most part nobody here is bothered about it. lot of streets and roads are straight fucked up here, kind of terrain that rattles your feet into being numb if you skate it but as long as they're driveable/walkable then local councils aren't going to fix it.
on the plus side of it all though, i find it often ends up for a more enjoyable watch on film, and can often be more fun to skate if you're having to work your way around cracks and find the right routes. given alot of it is pretty old architecture too, they often end up inadvertently being pretty good spots. i live in a northern town that has a pretty big mining/shipbuilding heritage, and there's a bunch of random spots that are leftovers from that era, or just random shit in general:
some drain access in the middle of a roundabout, full pyramid:
(https://i.imgur.com/D51F3VB.png)
not sure on the history of this, kinda near where an old mine was so i'd imagine it was access or storage or something:
(https://i.imgur.com/JimZXOd.png)
no idea on the history/reasoning of this but its a fun spot:
(https://i.imgur.com/QoVe4JU.png)
shit like this which from the late 1800s would have held ships whilst coal trains above would deposit into it:
(https://s3.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/lbimg/101/218/456/101218456-15563-800.jpg)
plenty of other spots but i dont wanna derail the topic, it's just funny that people think knox etc are purposely hunting out these crusty spots when a fair majority of them are shit you'd pass on a daily basis. knox obviously puts some effort in to find the spots he skates, but i doubt he's making a conscious effort to find crusty ones on purpose.
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I feel like people who think Tom Knox skates deliberately crusty spots really just don't know what street skating in England is like. Most spots are pretty fucked, its not California, or even New York. And a huge amount of towns and cities have been neglected and gone into varying degrees of disrepair. England is generally just a bit fucked, so you skate whatever you can find.
there's some interview where he vaguely mentions that about the spots and how it's basically just making the best out of a bad situation - everyone in england knows they're pretty shit, but at the same time you just make do with what you've got regardless of if it's crusty or not and for the most part nobody here is bothered about it. lot of streets and roads are straight fucked up here, kind of terrain that rattles your feet into being numb if you skate it but as long as they're driveable/walkable then local councils aren't going to fix it.
on the plus side of it all though, i find it often ends up for a more enjoyable watch on film, and can often be more fun to skate if you're having to work your way around cracks and find the right routes. given alot of it is pretty old architecture too, they often end up inadvertently being pretty good spots. i live in a northern town that has a pretty big mining/shipbuilding heritage, and there's a bunch of random spots that are leftovers from that era, or just random shit in general:
some drain access in the middle of a roundabout, full pyramid:
(https://i.imgur.com/D51F3VB.png)
not sure on the history of this, kinda near where an old mine was so i'd imagine it was access or storage or something:
(https://i.imgur.com/JimZXOd.png)
no idea on the history/reasoning of this but its a fun spot:
(https://i.imgur.com/QoVe4JU.png)
shit like this which from the late 1800s would have held ships whilst coal trains above would deposit into it:
(https://s3.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/lbimg/101/218/456/101218456-15563-800.jpg)
plenty of other spots but i dont wanna derail the topic, it's just funny that people think knox etc are purposely hunting out these crusty spots when a fair majority of them are shit you'd pass on a daily basis. knox obviously puts some effort in to find the spots he skates, but i doubt he's making a conscious effort to find crusty ones on purpose.
post more! loved the photos/info
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I feel like people who think Tom Knox skates deliberately crusty spots really just don't know what street skating in England is like. Most spots are pretty fucked, its not California, or even New York. And a huge amount of towns and cities have been neglected and gone into varying degrees of disrepair. England is generally just a bit fucked, so you skate whatever you can find.
there's some interview where he vaguely mentions that about the spots and how it's basically just making the best out of a bad situation - everyone in england knows they're pretty shit, but at the same time you just make do with what you've got regardless of if it's crusty or not and for the most part nobody here is bothered about it. lot of streets and roads are straight fucked up here, kind of terrain that rattles your feet into being numb if you skate it but as long as they're driveable/walkable then local councils aren't going to fix it.
on the plus side of it all though, i find it often ends up for a more enjoyable watch on film, and can often be more fun to skate if you're having to work your way around cracks and find the right routes. given alot of it is pretty old architecture too, they often end up inadvertently being pretty good spots. i live in a northern town that has a pretty big mining/shipbuilding heritage, and there's a bunch of random spots that are leftovers from that era, or just random shit in general:
some drain access in the middle of a roundabout, full pyramid:
(https://i.imgur.com/D51F3VB.png)
not sure on the history of this, kinda near where an old mine was so i'd imagine it was access or storage or something:
(https://i.imgur.com/JimZXOd.png)
no idea on the history/reasoning of this but its a fun spot:
(https://i.imgur.com/QoVe4JU.png)
shit like this which from the late 1800s would have held ships whilst coal trains above would deposit into it:
(https://s3.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/lbimg/101/218/456/101218456-15563-800.jpg)
plenty of other spots but i dont wanna derail the topic, it's just funny that people think knox etc are purposely hunting out these crusty spots when a fair majority of them are shit you'd pass on a daily basis. knox obviously puts some effort in to find the spots he skates, but i doubt he's making a conscious effort to find crusty ones on purpose.
You have not finished. Ok.
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tom is great maybe the most tasteful spots, style and trick selection currently.
But most the tricks in tom's part would be some creative hipster throwaway footage for mason while he is on the way to do some actual challenging and dangerous shit.
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@notmikerusczyk @Sila alright, here's a couple more. can't promise they will be as interesting as the last few but some of em have nice backstories.
here's one people have been skating recently; crusty as fuck, fairly tall ledge, long wallride running the length of it and about as many heroin needles as you'd expect:
(https://i.imgur.com/0ap3YeC.png)
the interesting part is that the section which everyone skates now is actually the second half of it, the first half of it was demolished late 2013/early 2014 but the other half of it used to be double the size and perfectly sheltered. back then (2012/2013) the second half of it never even got skated.
(https://ukskateforum.co.uk/uploads/default/original/2X/0/017fe23e35d6a19c84f0a5755a79cf94efb4b62d.jpeg)
was down there the other day just fucking around and my friend mentioned his dad used to work there, and something about the structure of the roof being the largest in the UK/built or designed in Canada. seemed interesting so I looked it up, turns out it had the largest one piece roof in Europe at the time, used 15 miles of steel tubes, weighed 8000 tonnes, equivalent size of 3 football pitches and the structual design for it was so complex that NASA’s space computer in Houston was used for the design. the roof itself was assembled on the floor and then jacked up into position.
here's what it looked like in 1977
(https://www.sunderlandecho.com/jp-ct.co.uk/image/onecms:bd3d1569-1de1-4976-943c-59e31b5d62e9:db1761ac-3620-4a20-a986-fb67942e74ec/image.jpg)
and what it looked like in 2013, the enterance to the spot was down the right hand side of it
(https://i2-prod.chroniclelive.co.uk/incoming/article12654162.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/SSR_NEC_240217next_02JPG.jpg)
here's another set of spots i can only describe as the council randomly throwing banks on things (not that im complaining), some of them are fairly new ie the one with the channel gap, the others probably predate me even existing.
(https://i.imgur.com/lkUl5XS.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/1O1nspI.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/FITbZLp.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/SFWh5l4.png)
here's one i spotted from the bridge
(https://i.imgur.com/4n8GUFK.png)
i tail dropped it the day we scoped it out then went back a few days later for a noseblunt yank in. unfortunately no real way to get a good roll away from it so it just ended up being roll it to the kink off the end and have a homie catch you.
(https://i.imgur.com/MuC8DOV.png)
it's not all doom and gloom, we have a bunch of plazas yet one of the most skated things at them is this gap to electric box.
(https://i.imgur.com/SFUeid7.png)
scraped a front lip on it at the start of the year
(https://i.imgur.com/oJLwTA1.jpg)
last one, no words needed. 60s brutalist architecture in full effect, unfortunately slated for demolition relatively soon.
(https://wearsideonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/sunderland-civic-centre-steps-01.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/fc/2d/23fc2d3560e68fb7053bf195478ee796.jpg)
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^^^^ these are awesome. Thanks for posting the photos and giving a run down. It keeps me hyped for when I can travel again. I love hearing back stories and people's perspectives on spots. Appreciate it.
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some quality posts, cosmicgypsies!
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^^^ love seeing the architecture in other countries. the UK has so much character, makes the US seem so boring. thank you!
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They are both worthy.
Again it just comes to to tech vs gnarly
Gnarly almost always wins it seems..... Hellride and all that.
Yeah you're probably right, Gall has it locked.
Couldn't agree more. Uncle Freddy gots this thing signed, sealed, and delivered.
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London is smooth pearly skate heaven compared to Ireland
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It's long overdue. His Speed Freaks part is legendary.
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I created an account just to say thanks for this comment, highlight of my day...
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Thought some people might enjoy a dedicated crust thread.....
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=114062.0