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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: dyllan on November 16, 2020, 12:22:58 AM
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Emerica-Vans-Nike, so quick, but I’m sure he’s there to stay. Probably a good contract, regardless of the new color way he was supposed to release with Vans.
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baker x blazer
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“thankyouvans” the kid needs to use some spaces and capitals, fucking painful to read.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf_RsBtnILY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf_RsBtnILY)
I suppose Reynolds is not psyched on the weed
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Not the most tasteful way to end a "thank you" part (and I'm not only saying that because of those juggalo dunks).
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Yuck
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Thankyouvansindyrvcabronsonemerica
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Wonder when thankyoubaker will drop?
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kader of vans
I wonder when the board company switch will happen, I remember another poster predicting hell be on FA and Nike eventually. Seems likely considering the Fat Bill and Supreme crossover, even more so now hes ditched Vans.
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Wonder when thankyoubaker will drop?
He was riding at least 1 all black blank is that vid
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The change of influence, from Reynolds to Fat Bill is just not cool and not gonna do him any good.
And here comes the question, apart from Theotis who is loyal to cash, the full board sticker job, and Baker, is kader gonna fall into the TK, Antwan route and just become a pile? Has anyone else but Theotis made it that far, being black, on Baker?
Is Reynolds to blame? is it the image? Or just the fact that once let loose, they'll never be the same?
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man so much potential but i feel hes gonna get sucked up into the cool guy void. sober Reynolds was a god infuence- fat Bill is nothing but bad news and terrible filming.
shame, i liked Kader whrn he first appeared
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ok!
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Thankyouvansindyrvcabronsonemerica
yeah, is he collecting welcome parts or what?
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the kid is 18 let him choose what he likes
also bills filming is great
id rather watch a bill strobeck clip than any baker 4 clip
also for a kid at his age if he left baker they would feel so empty
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Crazy. Didn't see this coming. He's jumped sponsors so much the past 3 years. Hopefully baker will stay the one constant. Sometimes you gotta remember what got you to the dance in the first place.
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The change of influence, from Reynolds to Fat Bill is just not cool and not gonna do him any good.
You say that but it hasn't had a negative effect on Tyshawn. I think Fat Bill is a motivator, if anyone is keen to get out film it's that guy. Him and tyshawn were out all at all hours getting the supreme footy.
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Get paid.
And is he the first Baker rider to be on one of the super major shoe brands?
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Get paid.
And is he the first Baker rider to be on one of the super major shoe brands?
No
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Get paid.
And is he the first Baker rider to be on one of the super major shoe brands?
Nike: Elissa, Theotis, Jacopo
Cons: Baca, Nuge
Vans: Reynolds, Tyson, Rowan, Dollin
So nah.
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This fools getting nike checks, and still asking for cash app handouts lmao
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Get paid.
And is he the first Baker rider to be on one of the super major shoe brands?
Cons: Baca, Nuge
Vans: Reynolds, Tyson, Rowan, Dollin
So nah.
Ah. Maybe he stays. But probably not.
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But can he Gonz gap
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Eventually people are gonna stop sponsoring this kid because of his constant hopping between sponsors, shows no loyalty to anyone except baker, but to be honest it feels like it’s only a matter of time until he leaves them too. Kaders got a lot of growing up to do.
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the kid is 18 let him choose what he likes
also bills filming is great
id rather watch a bill strobeck clip than any baker 4 clip
also for a kid at his age if he left baker they would feel so empty
You do understand that Baker 4 was the way it was because of Bill, right?
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I’m betting before the year is up he is going to be on fa and drawing weird shit on his jeans.
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Wonder when thankyoubaker will drop?
He was riding at least 1 all black blank is that vid
Could be that covid deck shortages meant there were no Baker big boards at that time, or something more...
I get that but you'd think he'd at least have a Vans or Baker sticker of some sort. If I was on a blank due to shortage I'd make sure I was in a Baker tee/hoodie to make up for it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf_RsBtnILY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf_RsBtnILY)
I suppose Reynolds is not psyched on the weed
Guess he grew and is all in on rail skating?
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He look sick in dunks ;D I love this "weed Kader" evolution.
Also I don't think that he gonna leave Baker.
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Wonder when thankyoubaker will drop?
I think we're all wondering that. Maybe an FA board at the end?
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Not mad at it
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A lot of people say Kader is 'sponsor hopping' or whatever, but I don't hear those people question why the sponsors aren't able to keep him. He's doing well with his career overall, so I assume the sponsorship changes are motivated by moving brands for a bigger cheque. If I had to guess, I would imagine that Emerica was paying him in shoes and high fives, Vans probably offered a similar arrangement (if the stories are true about their humongous pro-flow team where nobody is getting paid), and maybe Nike is actually paying him well. If that's what happened, he's doing exactly what he should be. To me, the real question is 'why didn't Vans put up the money to keep him around?' Kader is 'in his window' right now, and he should get all the money he can while he's young, healthy, and marketable. He doesn't owe anything to Vans or Indy or whoever.
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It’s just that if he left Baker it would be to FA. No cool surprise move to Primitive or a random one like to Frog or something. It would be so he could have that class photo deck and be part of the cool kids club.
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Fa is cringe fr
This fools getting nike checks, and still asking for cash app handouts lmao
Kader on thankyougofundme
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Nike probably offered him a million dollar, three year contract. I'd much rather see a guy like this on emerica, but a real contract from a company like Nike is basically the only way to really be pro in skateboarding these days.
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trying to look cool while smoking weed in videos is next level cringe
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Sucks that Kader is leaving Vans, but if he’s getting paid by Nike, good on him. I hope this means Clive Dixon gets off pro flow and gets a spot on the team.
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It’s just that if he left Baker it would be to FA. No cool surprise move to Primitive or a random one like to Frog or something. It would be so he could have that class photo deck and be part of the cool kids club.
This I feel like it’s just a matter of dill saying jump and kader will jump to Fa/hockey. Every move he’s made has just been trend hopping.
Also still don’t see the hype in kader. This part was enjoyable but if it was a hesh kids part everyone would shit on all the rail chomping.
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With Vans parent company VF Corp recent purchase of Supreme I would like to see them cut Kader out of the Supreme program. With like a #toucheKader ad of some sort
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I don’t think he’ll leave baker if he’s cool with everyone there. Board sponsors don’t matter as much as they used to and baker is still huge.
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With Vans parent company VF Corp recent purchase of Supreme I would like to see them cut Kader out of the Supreme program. With like a #toucheKader ad.
That would be funny, but he'd get scooped up quick by some other hypebeast brand.
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Reynolds: "How tf am I going to get on nike."
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As long as his contract expired and he didn’t pull any tantrums insisting his sponsors drop him so he could move on, I don’t care if he is the Kevin Durant of the skate shoe game. I don’t think he should be obligated to stay with an employer because it may not look good to change where he works. I doubt Reynolds cares that much considering Kader was on long before him and he used to get shoes out his box
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This boy needs to relax, keep a sponsor, keep a friend. I like him in the back seat talkin shit not doing intense silent stares rolling joints
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I’m betting before the year is up he is going to be on fa and drawing weird shit on his jeans.
Patches galore.
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Good for you kid. Know your worth and don’t leave any money on the table. You ain’t gotta be loyal to these corporations, because you know they ain’t loyal to you.
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Nike probably offered him a million dollar, three year contract. I'd much rather see a guy like this on emerica, but a real contract from a company like Nike is basically the only way to really be pro in skateboarding these days.
does Nike really give skaters this much for 3-year deals? Seems like a lot. Not saying they aren't worth it, just that it seems generous of Nike.
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the kid is 18 let him choose what he likes
also bills filming is great
id rather watch a bill strobeck clip than any baker 4 clip
also for a kid at his age if he left baker they would feel so empty
You do understand that Baker 4 was the way it was because of Bill, right?
bill wouldve made this mess way more coherent.
shit was filmed with way to many different cameras and a boring overall edit
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Just wait until his next new collab/colorway with Nike and then he’ll left right after that
He left emerica when everybody just knew that he got a new colorway on a Wino slip-on, and he left vans after he got a Era X Baker colorway
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Sucks that Kader is leaving Vans, but if he’s getting paid by Nike, good on him. I hope this means Clive Dixon gets off pro flow and gets a spot on the team.
You almost had the right take
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he left vans a year after he got a Era X Baker colorway
Fixed that
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american contracts aren’t legal if you’re under 18. his contract was set to expire and this was his first adult deal. why do grown men care if a child wears sneakers with a stripe or a swoosh so much?
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american contracts aren’t legal if you’re under 18. his contract was set to expire and this was his first adult deal. why do grown men care if a child wears sneakers with a stripe or a swoosh so much?
I don’t think anyone actual cares what shoes he’s wearing. Just observations on a skate forum about a skateboarder hopping sponsors. You know on a skate forum. Kinda stuff that may be discussed at length on a skate forum.
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Not surprised and I'm sure at this point he has an agent and they are out to get him paid. Also feel like he's had this thing about getting out of the Reynolds shadow and shedding any sponsors that tie to that. FA is just a matter of time.
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Not surprised and I'm sure at this point he has an agent and they are out to get him paid. Also feel like he's had this thing about getting out of the Reynolds shadow and shedding any sponsors that tie to that. FA is just a matter of time.
What Reynolds shadow?
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He'd been on Vans for a while now. The contract probably just expired. Let's be real, when Nike asks you if you want to ride, you say YES
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Interesting that they picked up Kader as rumors are swirling that Nike is about to not re-up on as much as 70% of their contracts.
Going to be interesting to see who gets let go.
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Going to be interesting to see who gets let go.
Theotis
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Terp rn:
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Not surprised and I'm sure at this point he has an agent and they are out to get him paid. Also feel like he's had this thing about getting out of the Reynolds shadow and shedding any sponsors that tie to that. FA is just a matter of time.
What Reynolds shadow?
I believe the implication is that Kader is actually white, and only appears to be black because he is in the shadow that Andrew Reynolds casts by standing in certain positions in the sunlight.
The world will be shocked when it's revealed that his name is actually Kayden.
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The change of influence, from Reynolds to Fat Bill is just not cool and not gonna do him any good.
And here comes the question, apart from Theotis who is loyal to cash, the full board sticker job, and Baker, is kader gonna fall into the TK, Antwan route and just become a pile? Has anyone else but Theotis made it that far, being black, on Baker?
Is Reynolds to blame? is it the image? Or just the fact that once let loose, they'll never be the same?
Honestly, we need to stop treating child pros like some sort of novelty. there need to be steps to help young pros and make sure they don't end up like every other young baker pro.
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The change of influence, from Reynolds to Fat Bill is just not cool and not gonna do him any good.
And here comes the question, apart from Theotis who is loyal to cash, the full board sticker job, and Baker, is kader gonna fall into the TK, Antwan route and just become a pile? Has anyone else but Theotis made it that far, being black, on Baker?
Is Reynolds to blame? is it the image? Or just the fact that once let loose, they'll never be the same?
Honestly, we need to stop treating child pros like some sort of novelty.
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Kader obviously became a legal adult, contracts were changing anyway and Nike made him an offer. Vans couldn't match that offer so he moved companies, you guys talk about loyalty to corporate companies like it means anything. Dudes come from like nothing, he shouldn't ride for the corporation that pays more because he rode for the other one for like what 2-3 years?
Unfortunately skate careers are unpredictable as hell and he probably knows that. Can't fault it. Also in regards to other sponsors change ups.. I'd hate to have the sponsors I would've picked at 15 in my 20s.
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real question is will he ever develop some power in his skating like tyshawn did or will he skate like a little kid forever
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american contracts aren’t legal if you’re under 18. his contract was set to expire and this was his first adult deal. why do grown men care if a child wears sneakers with a stripe or a swoosh so much?
Sigh. It’s a state by state issue. Would you believe CA, home of the entertainment industry, might have more lenient laws about minors working.
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Kader obviously became a legal adult, contracts were changing anyway and Nike made him an offer. Vans couldn't match that offer so he moved companies, you guys talk about loyalty to corporate companies like it means anything. Dudes come from like nothing, he shouldn't ride for the corporation that pays more because he rode for the other one for like what 2-3 years?
Unfortunately skate careers are unpredictable as hell and he probably knows that. Can't fault it. Also in regards to other sponsors change ups.. I'd hate to have the sponsors I would've picked at 15 in my 20s.
This is just good to do in any profession or job. You should always be aware that major companies will drop you any second that they need to. If opportunities come up after being at a job for a few years and building good relationships it shouldn't be frowned upon to move onward and upward.
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Interesting that they picked up Kader as rumors are swirling that Nike is about to not re-up on as much as 70% of their contracts.
Going to be interesting to see who gets let go.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Hopefully Max still getting swoosh boxes/checks.
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hahahahhahahahahah
am i allowed to call him a sponsor homie hopper yet?
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The change of influence, from Reynolds to Fat Bill is just not cool and not gonna do him any good.
And here comes the question, apart from Theotis who is loyal to cash, the full board sticker job, and Baker, is kader gonna fall into the TK, Antwan route and just become a pile? Has anyone else but Theotis made it that far, being black, on Baker?
Is Reynolds to blame? is it the image? Or just the fact that once let loose, they'll never be the same?
smh what kinda goofy ass shit is this? tf does race have to do with it?
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Wonder when thankyoubaker will drop?
He was riding at least 1 all black blank is that vid
He's also riding a scram board and he's definitely not on scram. I wouldn't think too much about a blank
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Kader obviously became a legal adult, contracts were changing anyway and Nike made him an offer. Vans couldn't match that offer so he moved companies, you guys talk about loyalty to corporate companies like it means anything. Dudes come from like nothing, he shouldn't ride for the corporation that pays more because he rode for the other one for like what 2-3 years?
Unfortunately skate careers are unpredictable as hell and he probably knows that. Can't fault it. Also in regards to other sponsors change ups.. I'd hate to have the sponsors I would've picked at 15 in my 20s.
Comes from nothing! He’s from the valley and lived in a single house.
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Wonder when thankyoubaker will drop?
He was riding at least 1 all black blank is that vid
He's also riding a scram board and he's definitely not on scram. I wouldn't think too much about a blank
I would
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the amount of racism and classism in here is getting a little out of hand
dude can go where he wants. even leaving baker and the boss would be ok for me.
dont see anything bad with it since hes the whole face of new baker
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Like others have said, pretty strong potential for FA camp. Bet it's sometime next year
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Good for you kid. Know your worth and don’t leave any money on the table. You ain’t gotta be loyal to these corporations, because you know they ain’t loyal to you.
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Yes, these kinds of deals are a reality now. They are not common. Big companies are shifting resources to creating a handful of stars vs. putting every dirty park hero on flow.
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Nike probably offered him a million dollar, three year contract. I'd much rather see a guy like this on emerica, but a real contract from a company like Nike is basically the only way to really be pro in skateboarding these days.
does Nike really give skaters this much for 3-year deals? Seems like a lot. Not saying they aren't worth it, just that it seems generous of Nike.
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With Vans parent company VF Corp recent purchase of Supreme I would like to see them cut Kader out of the Supreme program. With like a #toucheKader ad.
Like which ? Let´s speculate.
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might've been the contract, but his era pro colourway has been hitting shops in the past week or so
doubt they'd plan a shoe for him to leave moments after
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the amount of racism and classism in here is getting a little out of hand
dude can go where he wants. even leaving baker and the boss would be ok for me.
dont see anything bad with it since hes the whole face of new baker
I agree, the kid can go wherever he thinks is best for him.
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the amount of racism and classism in here is getting a little out of hand
dude can go where he wants. even leaving baker and the boss would be ok for me.
dont see anything bad with it since hes the whole face of new baker
come the fuck on. why are you defending such a wack decision so fucking hard? he jumped ship, again, but this time to the evil empire of nike. criticizing that decision is not fucking racist.
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the amount of racism and classism in here is getting a little out of hand
dude can go where he wants. even leaving baker and the boss would be ok for me.
dont see anything bad with it since hes the whole face of new baker
come the fuck on. why are you defending such a wack decision so fucking hard? he jumped ship, again, but this time to the evil empire of nike. criticizing that decision is not fucking racist.
how much people despise this child on this website is absolutely rooted in racism
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Not really seeing a ton of "hate" on him. Mostly just talking about sponsor hopping, which isn't really all that damning of a thing for a kid to do.
I really like his skating but I stand by not turning little kids pro as a general philosophy.
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the amount of racism and classism in here is getting a little out of hand
dude can go where he wants. even leaving baker and the boss would be ok for me.
dont see anything bad with it since hes the whole face of new baker
come the fuck on. why are you defending such a wack decision so fucking hard? he jumped ship, again, but this time to the evil empire of nike. criticizing that decision is not fucking racist.
By some maybe, but you are acting like Ishod isn't one of the most beloved skaters on this site.
Anyone who blatantly sponsor hops this much and is overhyped is going to get shit talked, that's just slap. Sheckler got it way worse than Kader, and at a younger age.
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the amount of racism and classism in here is getting a little out of hand
dude can go where he wants. even leaving baker and the boss would be ok for me.
dont see anything bad with it since hes the whole face of new baker
come the fuck on. why are you defending such a wack decision so fucking hard? he jumped ship, again, but this time to the evil empire of nike. criticizing that decision is not fucking racist.
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the amount of racism and classism in here is getting a little out of hand
dude can go where he wants. even leaving baker and the boss would be ok for me.
dont see anything bad with it since hes the whole face of new baker
come the fuck on. why are you defending such a wack decision so fucking hard? he jumped ship, again, but this time to the evil empire of nike. criticizing that decision is not fucking racist.
Anyone who blatantly sponsor hops this much and is overhyped is going to get shit talked, that's just slap. Sheckler got it way worse than Kader, and at a younger age.
Who cares if he changes sponsors? I don’t get the issue some have with this as long as he fulfills his contract. I’d try out different situations while I was young, too. See what works and what fits.
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anyone bummed that he jumps ship for the bag is never allowed to quit a job for a better paycheck again. proud of you loyal hoe boys.
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if i had a friend that every 16 months had a new job, i'd absolutely think that's weird.
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anyways Baker reposted it on their story so he's not getting the Darius King treatment.
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if i had a friend that every 16 months had a new job, i'd absolutely think that's weird.
Well, it isn’t a job, it’s a sponsorship. It’s not like he was a skateboarder for a bit, then a CPA, then teacher. He’s just wearing a different pair of shoes. Even so, he’s a teenager and teenagers definitely change jobs. And I think the timeline is closer to 3 years.
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anyways Baker reposted it on their story so he's not getting the Darius King treatment.
And Reynolds posted it with “Favorite Skater” so I wouldn’t worry about him becoming the first Nike skater on FA yet
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if i had a friend that every 16 months had a new job, i'd absolutely think that's weird.
At what age though ?
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the amount of racism and classism in here is getting a little out of hand
dude can go where he wants. even leaving baker and the boss would be ok for me.
dont see anything bad with it since hes the whole face of new baker
come the fuck on. why are you defending such a wack decision so fucking hard? he jumped ship, again, but this time to the evil empire of nike. criticizing that decision is not fucking racist.
Anyone who blatantly sponsor hops this much and is overhyped is going to get shit talked, that's just slap. Sheckler got it way worse than Kader, and at a younger age.
You think the reality show might have had something to do with that?
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The funny thing about contracts is that they end, and sometimes people don't want to play ball. you keep it moving.
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if i had a friend that every 16 months had a new job, i'd absolutely think that's weird.
Well, it isn’t a job, it’s a sponsorship. It’s not like he was a skateboarder for a bit, then a CPA, then teacher. He’s just wearing a different pair of shoes. Even so, he’s a teenager and teenagers definitely change jobs. And I think the timeline is closer to 3 years.
So which is it?
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if i had a friend that every 16 months had a new job, i'd absolutely think that's weird.
Well, it isn’t a job, it’s a sponsorship. It’s not like he was a skateboarder for a bit, then a CPA, then teacher. He’s just wearing a different pair of shoes. Even so, he’s a teenager and teenagers definitely change jobs. And I think the timeline is closer to 3 years.
So which is it?
It’s not a job, but if you choose to continue to view it through that lens then consider how other similarly aged persons behave
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the amount of racism and classism in here is getting a little out of hand
dude can go where he wants. even leaving baker and the boss would be ok for me.
dont see anything bad with it since hes the whole face of new baker
come the fuck on. why are you defending such a wack decision so fucking hard? he jumped ship, again, but this time to the evil empire of nike. criticizing that decision is not fucking racist.
Anyone who blatantly sponsor hops this much and is overhyped is going to get shit talked, that's just slap. Sheckler got it way worse than Kader, and at a younger age.
It's obviously did, but to act like this is primarily due to race is ridiculous. Tons of kid skaters and people who sponsor hop get shit talked here. People shit talked guys like Mike-Mo a ton at the same age as Kader.
Personally, I think Kader's overhyped, and changing sponsors every 12 months isn't a good look, but it's whatever at the end of the day.
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anyways Baker reposted it on their story so he's not getting the Darius King treatment.
And Reynolds posted it with “Favorite Skater” so I wouldn’t worry about him becoming the first Nike skater on FA yet
.....KB.....Gino....probably more
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Can't wait for his FA class photo deck. It will just be a current photo of him
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How can i defend such a thing?
I never had a thing for rvca paper thin hash bro khaki colored clothing nore do i have the need to skate in emericas or vans. If i had to choose id be stupid to not get the thick hoodie Supreme pack and some nice colored dunks every month.
Vans is good too but i can imagine him being more hyped on nikes. Id hate to be taught in contracts what to wear every day since im 15. Hell yeah i would change Sponsors. Its not like he does come of as a ungrateful bitch.
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When it all comes down to it it's about the money. Getting cool points for staying on a company isn't gonna pay for all that weed. If one of the biggest brands is offering more money who wouldn't leave?
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Don't give much of a shit either way but it's funny that the argument being made in this thread is that if you're black it's okay to sponsor hop. I know there are a lot of other factors and challenges that people face based on race but but at the end of the day Kader obviously hasn't been very professional in his dealings and its often not wise to burn bridges. That said, I don't think he has a lot of staying power since he still skates like a little kid so get it while you can I guess.
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A lot of people say Kader is 'sponsor hopping' or whatever, but I don't hear those people question why the sponsors aren't able to keep him. He's doing well with his career overall, so I assume the sponsorship changes are motivated by moving brands for a bigger cheque. If I had to guess, I would imagine that Emerica was paying him in shoes and high fives, Vans probably offered a similar arrangement (if the stories are true about their humongous pro-flow team where nobody is getting paid), and maybe Nike is actually paying him well. If that's what happened, he's doing exactly what he should be. To me, the real question is 'why didn't Vans put up the money to keep him around?' Kader is 'in his window' right now, and he should get all the money he can while he's young, healthy, and marketable. He doesn't owe anything to Vans or Indy or whoever.
Fair point, but to tack on to it, I’d actually argue that Kader is not as valuable of an asset as most of us seem to think, therefore those other companies maybe did not feel it was the end of the world to lose him (other than Emerica). Maybe it’s just my local scene, but most of the kids seem to not actually give a shit about Kader or really care what he does, and a lot of them barely even know who the hell he is. People can call them “posers” or whatever they want, but fact remains they’re the ones buying product based on who they think is cool. I just think in the grand scheme of things, he’s not nearly as popular as a lot of us hardcore skate nerds seem to think.
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the kid is 18 let him choose what he likes
also bills filming is great
id rather watch a bill strobeck clip than any baker 4 clip
also for a kid at his age if he left baker they would feel so empty
are you fuckin serious? Fat BIll filming is easilt the worst thing to happen to skateboarding since Nike killed Savier
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A lot of people say Kader is 'sponsor hopping' or whatever, but I don't hear those people question why the sponsors aren't able to keep him. He's doing well with his career overall, so I assume the sponsorship changes are motivated by moving brands for a bigger cheque. If I had to guess, I would imagine that Emerica was paying him in shoes and high fives, Vans probably offered a similar arrangement (if the stories are true about their humongous pro-flow team where nobody is getting paid), and maybe Nike is actually paying him well. If that's what happened, he's doing exactly what he should be. To me, the real question is 'why didn't Vans put up the money to keep him around?' Kader is 'in his window' right now, and he should get all the money he can while he's young, healthy, and marketable. He doesn't owe anything to Vans or Indy or whoever.
Fair point, but to tack on to it, I’d actually argue that Kader is not as valuable of an asset as most of us seem to think, therefore those other companies maybe did not feel it was the end of the world to lose him (other than Emerica). Maybe it’s just my local scene, but most of the kids seem to not actually give a shit about Kader or really care what he does, and a lot of them barely even know who the hell he is. People can call them “posers” or whatever they want, but fact remains they’re the ones buying product based on who they think is cool. I just think in the grand scheme of things, he’s not nearly as popular as a lot of us hardcore skate nerds seem to think.
So you think someone moving on to bigger and better contracts means the previous shoe company didn’t try and strike a deal with Kader but had a less competitive offer?
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A lot of people say Kader is 'sponsor hopping' or whatever, but I don't hear those people question why the sponsors aren't able to keep him. He's doing well with his career overall, so I assume the sponsorship changes are motivated by moving brands for a bigger cheque. If I had to guess, I would imagine that Emerica was paying him in shoes and high fives, Vans probably offered a similar arrangement (if the stories are true about their humongous pro-flow team where nobody is getting paid), and maybe Nike is actually paying him well. If that's what happened, he's doing exactly what he should be. To me, the real question is 'why didn't Vans put up the money to keep him around?' Kader is 'in his window' right now, and he should get all the money he can while he's young, healthy, and marketable. He doesn't owe anything to Vans or Indy or whoever.
Fair point, but to tack on to it, I’d actually argue that Kader is not as valuable of an asset as most of us seem to think, therefore those other companies maybe did not feel it was the end of the world to lose him (other than Emerica). Maybe it’s just my local scene, but most of the kids seem to not actually give a shit about Kader or really care what he does, and a lot of them barely even know who the hell he is. People can call them “posers” or whatever they want, but fact remains they’re the ones buying product based on who they think is cool. I just think in the grand scheme of things, he’s not nearly as popular as a lot of us hardcore skate nerds seem to think.
So you think someone moving on to bigger and better contracts means the previous shoe company didn’t try and strike a deal with Kader but had a less competitive offer?
I think they are saying if Vans wanted to keep Kader ball was in their court. There is no telling though, I honestly could have seen him getting a shoe on Vans versus Nike maybe a few colorways of something.
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the amount of racism and classism in here is getting a little out of hand
dude can go where he wants. even leaving baker and the boss would be ok for me.
dont see anything bad with it since hes the whole face of new baker
come the fuck on. why are you defending such a wack decision so fucking hard? he jumped ship, again, but this time to the evil empire of nike. criticizing that decision is not fucking racist.
Huh? Most the time the Kader worship on this site is out of control. The dude drops one bombdrop and it excuses years of producing nothing much and a overhyped Baker 4 part that would have barely made the Baker 2 b-sides back in the day. Slap need to start overlooking his age and skin color and start ripping him a new asshole in the name of equality. Also if anyone tuned down a Nike contract they would need a brain scan for suspicious growths.
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A lot of people say Kader is 'sponsor hopping' or whatever, but I don't hear those people question why the sponsors aren't able to keep him. He's doing well with his career overall, so I assume the sponsorship changes are motivated by moving brands for a bigger cheque. If I had to guess, I would imagine that Emerica was paying him in shoes and high fives, Vans probably offered a similar arrangement (if the stories are true about their humongous pro-flow team where nobody is getting paid), and maybe Nike is actually paying him well. If that's what happened, he's doing exactly what he should be. To me, the real question is 'why didn't Vans put up the money to keep him around?' Kader is 'in his window' right now, and he should get all the money he can while he's young, healthy, and marketable. He doesn't owe anything to Vans or Indy or whoever.
Fair point, but to tack on to it, I’d actually argue that Kader is not as valuable of an asset as most of us seem to think, therefore those other companies maybe did not feel it was the end of the world to lose him (other than Emerica). Maybe it’s just my local scene, but most of the kids seem to not actually give a shit about Kader or really care what he does, and a lot of them barely even know who the hell he is. People can call them “posers” or whatever they want, but fact remains they’re the ones buying product based on who they think is cool. I just think in the grand scheme of things, he’s not nearly as popular as a lot of us hardcore skate nerds seem to think.
So you think someone moving on to bigger and better contracts means the previous shoe company didn’t try and strike a deal with Kader but had a less competitive offer?
I think they are saying if Vans wanted to keep Kader ball was in their court. There is no telling though, I honestly could have seen him getting a shoe on Vans versus Nike maybe a few colorways of something.
Depends on the contract. If they had language to the effect that they could match any offers, then yes, but other than that, contracts up and he was free to entertain offers and the most enticing one won
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the amount of racism and classism in here is getting a little out of hand
dude can go where he wants. even leaving baker and the boss would be ok for me.
dont see anything bad with it since hes the whole face of new baker
come the fuck on. why are you defending such a wack decision so fucking hard? he jumped ship, again, but this time to the evil empire of nike. criticizing that decision is not fucking racist.
Huh? Most the time the Kader worship on this site is out of control. The dude drops one bombdrop and it excuses years of producing nothing much and a overhyped Baker 4 part that would have barely made the Baker 2 b-sides back in the day. Slap need to start overlooking his age and skin color and start ripping him a new asshole in the name of equality. Also if anyone tuned down a Nike contract they would need a brain scan for suspicious growths.
??? that's a stretch
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A lot of people say Kader is 'sponsor hopping' or whatever, but I don't hear those people question why the sponsors aren't able to keep him. He's doing well with his career overall, so I assume the sponsorship changes are motivated by moving brands for a bigger cheque. If I had to guess, I would imagine that Emerica was paying him in shoes and high fives, Vans probably offered a similar arrangement (if the stories are true about their humongous pro-flow team where nobody is getting paid), and maybe Nike is actually paying him well. If that's what happened, he's doing exactly what he should be. To me, the real question is 'why didn't Vans put up the money to keep him around?' Kader is 'in his window' right now, and he should get all the money he can while he's young, healthy, and marketable. He doesn't owe anything to Vans or Indy or whoever.
Fair point, but to tack on to it, I’d actually argue that Kader is not as valuable of an asset as most of us seem to think, therefore those other companies maybe did not feel it was the end of the world to lose him (other than Emerica). Maybe it’s just my local scene, but most of the kids seem to not actually give a shit about Kader or really care what he does, and a lot of them barely even know who the hell he is. People can call them “posers” or whatever they want, but fact remains they’re the ones buying product based on who they think is cool. I just think in the grand scheme of things, he’s not nearly as popular as a lot of us hardcore skate nerds seem to think.
So you think someone moving on to bigger and better contracts means the previous shoe company didn’t try and strike a deal with Kader but had a less competitive offer?
Well I think you kind of just answered your question. This is Vans we’re talking about it. If they “had a less competitive offer” it’s because they didn’t see it being worth it to pay him what he wanted, not because they couldn’t afford it or something like that.
If they truly thought he was this insanely coveted rider to have that could make them a ton of money, they would have paid the money he wanted to keep him.
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A lot of people say Kader is 'sponsor hopping' or whatever, but I don't hear those people question why the sponsors aren't able to keep him. He's doing well with his career overall, so I assume the sponsorship changes are motivated by moving brands for a bigger cheque. If I had to guess, I would imagine that Emerica was paying him in shoes and high fives, Vans probably offered a similar arrangement (if the stories are true about their humongous pro-flow team where nobody is getting paid), and maybe Nike is actually paying him well. If that's what happened, he's doing exactly what he should be. To me, the real question is 'why didn't Vans put up the money to keep him around?' Kader is 'in his window' right now, and he should get all the money he can while he's young, healthy, and marketable. He doesn't owe anything to Vans or Indy or whoever.
Fair point, but to tack on to it, I’d actually argue that Kader is not as valuable of an asset as most of us seem to think, therefore those other companies maybe did not feel it was the end of the world to lose him (other than Emerica). Maybe it’s just my local scene, but most of the kids seem to not actually give a shit about Kader or really care what he does, and a lot of them barely even know who the hell he is. People can call them “posers” or whatever they want, but fact remains they’re the ones buying product based on who they think is cool. I just think in the grand scheme of things, he’s not nearly as popular as a lot of us hardcore skate nerds seem to think.
So you think someone moving on to bigger and better contracts means the previous shoe company didn’t try and strike a deal with Kader but had a less competitive offer?
Well I think you kind of just answered your question. This is Vans we’re talking about it. If they “had a less competitive offer” it’s because they didn’t see it being worth it to pay him what he wanted, not because they couldn’t afford it or something like that.
If they truly thought he was this insanely coveted rider to have that could make them a ton of money, they would have paid the money he wanted to keep him.
There’s no indication they were aware of Nike’s offer or that Kader is (or has reps) savvy enough to leverage competing company’s offers against each other. There’s also no idea on whether Vans couldn’t or wouldn’t offer something better than the biggest shoe company in the world did.
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Not surprised and I'm sure at this point he has an agent and they are out to get him paid. Also feel like he's had this thing about getting out of the Reynolds shadow and shedding any sponsors that tie to that. FA is just a matter of time.
What Reynolds shadow?
I mean the fact that Reynolds brought him up from a young age and had him tied into all his same sponsors. The younger Kader was little more on the hesh side and older Kader not at all. You grow older, influences change, tastes change, etc so I meant it in that regard. Like he's come into his own and has gone a different route so different sponsors. Wasn't meant as a malicious comment just one's opinion.
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Some weird ass clown once said "if you're good at something, never do it for free". Guess he's just looking to get paid, good for him. I could care less what kind of shoes he's wearing. On top of that, who cares about brand loyalty seriously? Vans, Nike, Adidas, whatever they are all big ass companies that don't give two shits about their riders, they are only looking to make money, so I'd say the individuals that young skaters look up to and buy shoes because of them should go for whoever gives the better check. Hell I'd leave my job in a heartbeat for another employer who pays more for the same job, why wouldn't they?
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I suppose Reynolds is not psyched on the weed
I could have sworn it was a chief Keef song the first time I watched it this morning am I trippin
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I suppose Reynolds is not psyched on the weed
I could have sworn it was a chief Keef song the first time I watched it this morning am I trippin
I think it’s a different song on ig . Prolly cause of rights on YouTube?
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Not surprised and I'm sure at this point he has an agent and they are out to get him paid. Also feel like he's had this thing about getting out of the Reynolds shadow and shedding any sponsors that tie to that. FA is just a matter of time.
What Reynolds shadow?
I mean the fact that Reynolds brought him up from a young age and had him tied into all his same sponsors. The younger Kader was little more on the hesh side and older Kader not at all. You grow older, influences change, tastes change, etc so I meant it in that regard. Like he's come into his own and has gone a different route so different sponsors. Wasn't meant as a malicious comment just one's opinion.
Tons of Baker ams had that treatment though. Baker boards and Emerica shoes kinda went/goes hand in hand
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I am usually one to defend the whole FA/Hockey/Supreme camp... I am a fan of a lot skaters that Slap writes off as gimmicky or wack...
But this time, I gotta agree, this switch just kinda bums me out. I really like Kader but this just feels kinda lame... like respect to a kid around my age chasing the bag and succeeding, can't hate on that, but something just doesn't sit right with me.
I'm a Supreme fan, but I really hope Kader doesn't make that his primary identifier, Reynolds and the Baker gang did a lot for him and I hope he doesnt abandon that.
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These people in here mad that an 18 year old left Vans and signed a Nike contract and don't consider how fickle a career in this industry can be between trends, injuries and the economy doing poorly. Can you imagine someone shaking their head at you because you took a new job with a pay raise? I think people just generally romanticize loyalty in the skateboard industry.
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I am usually one to defend the whole FA/Hockey/Supreme camp... I am a fan of a lot skaters that Slap writes off as gimmicky or wack...
But this time, I gotta agree, this switch just kinda bums me out. I really like Kader but this just feels kinda lame... like respect to a kid around my age chasing the bag and succeeding, can't hate on that, but something just doesn't sit right with me.
I'm a Supreme fan, but I really hope Kader doesn't make that his primary identifier, Reynolds and the Baker gang did a lot for him and I hope he doesnt abandon that.
What did they do for him that they didn’t do for others?
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Sick part I enjoyed that.
Could give a shit if he moves, it's his choice.
What height is he ? Midget vibes for a fully grown man
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These people in here mad that an 18 year old left Vans and signed a Nike contract and don't consider how fickle a career in this industry can be between trends, injuries and the economy doing poorly. Can you imagine someone shaking their head at you because you took a new job with a pay raise? I think people just generally romanticize loyalty in the skateboard industry.
When it comes down to it the companies won't hesitate to dump you on your ass to save themselves.
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I am usually one to defend the whole FA/Hockey/Supreme camp... I am a fan of a lot skaters that Slap writes off as gimmicky or wack...
But this time, I gotta agree, this switch just kinda bums me out. I really like Kader but this just feels kinda lame... like respect to a kid around my age chasing the bag and succeeding, can't hate on that, but something just doesn't sit right with me.
I'm a Supreme fan, but I really hope Kader doesn't make that his primary identifier, Reynolds and the Baker gang did a lot for him and I hope he doesnt abandon that.
What did they do for him that they didn’t do for others?
It always seemed like Reynolds really saw the potential in Kader. I remember in his Epicly Later'd, Kader and his daughter were friends and Reynolds really seemed to care about him and want the best for him.
Maybe they didnt do anything "more" for Kader or maybe its just the way Beagle & Co. edited Baker 4, but as an outside viewer, it seems the Baker lot seemed way more caring and supportive than the aura Bill curates in his videos.
Maybe I'm wrong, what do I know... just my two cents on the topic
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I'm really puzzled by the people so aggressively defending Kader's (very obvious) brand disloyalty.
Like, yeah.. he's a kid and he's gunna follow the money/what's cool. But for you folks to be in his back pocket so hard is really fucking weird.
I don't give a shit where he goes. And I'd 100% do the same as a kid his age. But idk who you think you're kidding..
Dude's gone through how many sponsors over the last few years? (Can someone who's bored go through and tally them up - I'm genuinely curious).
Mike V and Markovich catch heat all the time - not sure why this kid would be any different.
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I'm really puzzled by the people so aggressively defending Kader's (very obvious) brand disloyalty.
Like, yeah.. he's a kid and he's gunna follow the money/what's cool. But for you folks to be in his back pocket so hard is really fucking weird.
I don't give a shit where he goes. And I'd 100% do the same as a kid his age. But idk who you think you're kidding..
Dude's gone through how many sponsors over the last few years? (Can someone who's bored go through and tally them up - I'm genuinely curious).
Mike V and Markovich catch heat all the time - not sure why this kid would be any different.
Mike V and Markovich are kooks in general and they don’t sponsor hop, they start unnecessary and unsuccessful board brands in quick succession
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I'm really puzzled by the people so aggressively defending Kader's (very obvious) brand disloyalty.
Like, yeah.. he's a kid and he's gunna follow the money/what's cool. But for you folks to be in his back pocket so hard is really fucking weird.
I don't give a shit where he goes. And I'd 100% do the same as a kid his age. But idk who you think you're kidding..
Dude's gone through how many sponsors over the last few years? (Can someone who's bored go through and tally them up - I'm genuinely curious).
Mike V and Markovich catch heat all the time - not sure why this kid would be any different.
Mike V and Markovich are kooks in general and they don’t sponsor hop, they start unnecessary and unsuccessful board brands in quick succession
Yeah they do that too - but they also sponsor hop like crazy.
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I am usually one to defend the whole FA/Hockey/Supreme camp... I am a fan of a lot skaters that Slap writes off as gimmicky or wack...
But this time, I gotta agree, this switch just kinda bums me out. I really like Kader but this just feels kinda lame... like respect to a kid around my age chasing the bag and succeeding, can't hate on that, but something just doesn't sit right with me.
I'm a Supreme fan, but I really hope Kader doesn't make that his primary identifier, Reynolds and the Baker gang did a lot for him and I hope he doesnt abandon that.
What did they do for him that they didn’t do for others?
It always seemed like Reynolds really saw the potential in Kader. I remember in his Epicly Later'd, Kader and his daughter were friends and Reynolds really seemed to care about him and want the best for him.
Maybe they didnt do anything "more" for Kader or maybe its just the way Beagle & Co. edited Baker 4, but as an outside viewer, it seems the Baker lot seemed way more caring and supportive than the aura Bill curates in his videos.
Maybe I'm wrong, what do I know... just my two cents on the topic
Of course Reynolds saw potential in him. He wouldn’t sponsor people he doesn’t see potential in.
And what version of Baker 4 did you see? Did I miss the part where Reynolds hugged Kader after landing a trick but assured him he’d still love him even if he didn’t?
I’m not sure why everyone is creating this dichotomy between Baker and Fat Bill when Nike is involved.
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Sick part I enjoyed that.
Could give a shit if he moves, it's his choice.
What height is he ? Midget vibes for a fully grown man
seriously i thought he was still like 16
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I am usually one to defend the whole FA/Hockey/Supreme camp... I am a fan of a lot skaters that Slap writes off as gimmicky or wack...
But this time, I gotta agree, this switch just kinda bums me out. I really like Kader but this just feels kinda lame... like respect to a kid around my age chasing the bag and succeeding, can't hate on that, but something just doesn't sit right with me.
I'm a Supreme fan, but I really hope Kader doesn't make that his primary identifier, Reynolds and the Baker gang did a lot for him and I hope he doesnt abandon that.
Considering most that clip had him rocking supreme shirts id say the ship has sailed.
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I'm really puzzled by the people so aggressively defending Kader's (very obvious) brand disloyalty.
Like, yeah.. he's a kid and he's gunna follow the money/what's cool. But for you folks to be in his back pocket so hard is really fucking weird.
I don't give a shit where he goes. And I'd 100% do the same as a kid his age. But idk who you think you're kidding..
Dude's gone through how many sponsors over the last few years? (Can someone who's bored go through and tally them up - I'm genuinely curious).
Mike V and Markovich catch heat all the time - not sure why this kid would be any different.
Mike V and Markovich are kooks in general and they don’t sponsor hop, they start unnecessary and unsuccessful board brands in quick succession
Yeah they do that too - but they also sponsor hop like crazy.
Do they? You sure they weren’t let go? Also...explain why it matters these skaters aren’t loyal to A BRAND.
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These people in here mad that an 18 year old left Vans and signed a Nike contract and don't consider how fickle a career in this industry can be between trends, injuries and the economy doing poorly. Can you imagine someone shaking their head at you because you took a new job with a pay raise? I think people just generally romanticize loyalty in the skateboard industry.
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I am usually one to defend the whole FA/Hockey/Supreme camp... I am a fan of a lot skaters that Slap writes off as gimmicky or wack...
But this time, I gotta agree, this switch just kinda bums me out. I really like Kader but this just feels kinda lame... like respect to a kid around my age chasing the bag and succeeding, can't hate on that, but something just doesn't sit right with me.
I'm a Supreme fan, but I really hope Kader doesn't make that his primary identifier, Reynolds and the Baker gang did a lot for him and I hope he doesnt abandon that.
What did they do for him that they didn’t do for others?
It always seemed like Reynolds really saw the potential in Kader. I remember in his Epicly Later'd, Kader and his daughter were friends and Reynolds really seemed to care about him and want the best for him.
Maybe they didnt do anything "more" for Kader or maybe its just the way Beagle & Co. edited Baker 4, but as an outside viewer, it seems the Baker lot seemed way more caring and supportive than the aura Bill curates in his videos.
Maybe I'm wrong, what do I know... just my two cents on the topic
Of course Reynolds saw potential in him. He wouldn’t sponsor people he doesn’t see potential in.
And what version of Baker 4 did you see? Did I miss the part where Reynolds hugged Kader after landing a trick but assured him he’d still love him even if he didn’t?
I’m not sure why everyone is creating this dichotomy between Baker and Fat Bill when Nike is involved.
Fair fair, I think the dichotomy is just sorta concluded upon due to Supreme and Nike both being "trendy". There is no tangible evidence to even bring Bill into the discussion when talking Kader/Nike so you're right on that front.
I think you would be kidding yourself though to think Reynolds sees Kader as a money maker first and foremost. It'd be some cornball shit to dive into the rabbit hole of "How much does Reynolds love Kader" but I'm just saying in a hypothetical situation where i was a parent of a good skater, I'd trust Reynolds with my kid before I'd trust Bill.
But I digress, none of that matters, all in all I agree, a lot of conclusions being jumped to in this thread, we should just leave it at Kader moved to Nike, it is what it is.
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I am usually one to defend the whole FA/Hockey/Supreme camp... I am a fan of a lot skaters that Slap writes off as gimmicky or wack...
But this time, I gotta agree, this switch just kinda bums me out. I really like Kader but this just feels kinda lame... like respect to a kid around my age chasing the bag and succeeding, can't hate on that, but something just doesn't sit right with me.
I'm a Supreme fan, but I really hope Kader doesn't make that his primary identifier, Reynolds and the Baker gang did a lot for him and I hope he doesnt abandon that.
What did they do for him that they didn’t do for others?
It always seemed like Reynolds really saw the potential in Kader. I remember in his Epicly Later'd, Kader and his daughter were friends and Reynolds really seemed to care about him and want the best for him.
Maybe they didnt do anything "more" for Kader or maybe its just the way Beagle & Co. edited Baker 4, but as an outside viewer, it seems the Baker lot seemed way more caring and supportive than the aura Bill curates in his videos.
Maybe I'm wrong, what do I know... just my two cents on the topic
Of course Reynolds saw potential in him. He wouldn’t sponsor people he doesn’t see potential in.
And what version of Baker 4 did you see? Did I miss the part where Reynolds hugged Kader after landing a trick but assured him he’d still love him even if he didn’t?
I’m not sure why everyone is creating this dichotomy between Baker and Fat Bill when Nike is involved.
Fair fair, I think the dichotomy is just sorta concluded upon due to Supreme and Nike both being "trendy". There is no tangible evidence to even bring Bill into the discussion when talking Kader/Nike so you're right on that front.
I think you would be kidding yourself though to think Reynolds sees Kader as a money maker first and foremost. It'd be some cornball shit to dive into the rabbit hole of "How much does Reynolds love Kader" but I'm just saying in a hypothetical situation where i was a parent of a good skater, I'd trust Reynolds with my kid before I'd trust Bill.
But I digress, none of that matters, all in all I agree, a lot of conclusions being jumped to in this thread, we should just leave it at Kader moved to Nike, it is what it is.
Yikes I wouldn’t trust Reynolds with my kid. Who’s an aspirational figure that came up through Baker? Desert trash conspiracy theorist? Guy who was set on fire by Neck Face? Disgusting stoner rock with questionable sexual ethics? And those are the bright spots!
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I am usually one to defend the whole FA/Hockey/Supreme camp... I am a fan of a lot skaters that Slap writes off as gimmicky or wack...
But this time, I gotta agree, this switch just kinda bums me out. I really like Kader but this just feels kinda lame... like respect to a kid around my age chasing the bag and succeeding, can't hate on that, but something just doesn't sit right with me.
I'm a Supreme fan, but I really hope Kader doesn't make that his primary identifier, Reynolds and the Baker gang did a lot for him and I hope he doesnt abandon that.
What did they do for him that they didn’t do for others?
It always seemed like Reynolds really saw the potential in Kader. I remember in his Epicly Later'd, Kader and his daughter were friends and Reynolds really seemed to care about him and want the best for him.
Maybe they didnt do anything "more" for Kader or maybe its just the way Beagle & Co. edited Baker 4, but as an outside viewer, it seems the Baker lot seemed way more caring and supportive than the aura Bill curates in his videos.
Maybe I'm wrong, what do I know... just my two cents on the topic
Of course Reynolds saw potential in him. He wouldn’t sponsor people he doesn’t see potential in.
And what version of Baker 4 did you see? Did I miss the part where Reynolds hugged Kader after landing a trick but assured him he’d still love him even if he didn’t?
I’m not sure why everyone is creating this dichotomy between Baker and Fat Bill when Nike is involved.
Fair fair, I think the dichotomy is just sorta concluded upon due to Supreme and Nike both being "trendy". There is no tangible evidence to even bring Bill into the discussion when talking Kader/Nike so you're right on that front.
I think you would be kidding yourself though to think Reynolds sees Kader as a money maker first and foremost. It'd be some cornball shit to dive into the rabbit hole of "How much does Reynolds love Kader" but I'm just saying in a hypothetical situation where i was a parent of a good skater, I'd trust Reynolds with my kid before I'd trust Bill.
But I digress, none of that matters, all in all I agree, a lot of conclusions being jumped to in this thread, we should just leave it at Kader moved to Nike, it is what it is.
Yikes I wouldn’t trust Reynolds with my kid. Who’s an aspirational figure that came up through Baker? Desert trash conspiracy theorist? Guy who was set on fire by Neck Face? Disgusting stoner rock with questionable sexual ethics? And those are the bright spots!
2020 Baker is very different than 2007 Baker. If you think Reynolds or Spanky are still acting like hooligans, you're a tad out of the loop chief.
Also I pretty much agreed with you, not sure why you cherry picked a singular point to drag on the debate but so be it, guess I'll just wait for Stroebeck's daycare business to take off.
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Sick part I enjoyed that.
Could give a shit if he moves, it's his choice.
What height is he ? Midget vibes for a fully grown man
Its true, that recent pic with him standing next to reynolds on insta made him look like a 12 year old and reynolds was crouching down! Commenters were saying that Spanky shrunk him in photoshop but if not, thats his forever body size (18 is fully grown). Probably an asset for his ability to nugget bounce out of hammers but not good news if you are waiting for him to start popping that 9 inch slab higher than his knees.
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I am usually one to defend the whole FA/Hockey/Supreme camp... I am a fan of a lot skaters that Slap writes off as gimmicky or wack...
But this time, I gotta agree, this switch just kinda bums me out. I really like Kader but this just feels kinda lame... like respect to a kid around my age chasing the bag and succeeding, can't hate on that, but something just doesn't sit right with me.
I'm a Supreme fan, but I really hope Kader doesn't make that his primary identifier, Reynolds and the Baker gang did a lot for him and I hope he doesnt abandon that.
What did they do for him that they didn’t do for others?
It always seemed like Reynolds really saw the potential in Kader. I remember in his Epicly Later'd, Kader and his daughter were friends and Reynolds really seemed to care about him and want the best for him.
Maybe they didnt do anything "more" for Kader or maybe its just the way Beagle & Co. edited Baker 4, but as an outside viewer, it seems the Baker lot seemed way more caring and supportive than the aura Bill curates in his videos.
Maybe I'm wrong, what do I know... just my two cents on the topic
Of course Reynolds saw potential in him. He wouldn’t sponsor people he doesn’t see potential in.
And what version of Baker 4 did you see? Did I miss the part where Reynolds hugged Kader after landing a trick but assured him he’d still love him even if he didn’t?
I’m not sure why everyone is creating this dichotomy between Baker and Fat Bill when Nike is involved.
Fair fair, I think the dichotomy is just sorta concluded upon due to Supreme and Nike both being "trendy". There is no tangible evidence to even bring Bill into the discussion when talking Kader/Nike so you're right on that front.
I think you would be kidding yourself though to think Reynolds sees Kader as a money maker first and foremost. It'd be some cornball shit to dive into the rabbit hole of "How much does Reynolds love Kader" but I'm just saying in a hypothetical situation where i was a parent of a good skater, I'd trust Reynolds with my kid before I'd trust Bill.
But I digress, none of that matters, all in all I agree, a lot of conclusions being jumped to in this thread, we should just leave it at Kader moved to Nike, it is what it is.
Yikes I wouldn’t trust Reynolds with my kid. Who’s an aspirational figure that came up through Baker? Desert trash conspiracy theorist? Guy who was set on fire by Neck Face? Disgusting stoner rock with questionable sexual ethics? And those are the bright spots!
I don't think any skater or skate company really has a great track record. It's the parent's responsibility to guide their kid and help them (while not overbearing control freak like Nyjah's dad). To offload it to anyone in the industry is foolish. But, Baker's track record isn't great.
Unless you have an agent (which is generally frowned upon or mocked around here), no one outside yourself is going to look out for purely your interests in skating or almost any other business for that matter. If you want someone to manage your kids career you reach out to someone like Heath Brinkley or Ryan Clements. But, obviously, that comes at a cost.
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People jump sponsors, who fucking cares. How many shoe sponsors did Carroll have in the 90s? 4?
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I guess Baker is the lesser evil of the skate industry. The image they try to cultivate is they are bunch of homies etc etc. It seems like that baker will try to help you have a career.Seems of course we don't know what goes in the back ground but with how all the team riders always seem to be taken care of ( oh you don't have a shoes sponsor we'll try to talk Emerica about it). Of course those sponsors may not have the biggest checks but it seems a bit more stable than other companies. I like Kader and I like FA too. I like Kader on Baker because it seems like he fits in. FA leans on a lot controversy on their decks( That trippy graphic with the rape victim on it http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2015/05/26/are-shocking-skateboard-graphics-still-impactful/) but there is some cool stuff coming out of there like holographic decks. It seems very trendy and I don't like the idea of him leaving. He kinda fills a spot in the Baker team ( little kid that everyone hate/likes) so I don't know how that dynamic would work no matter how many clips of you smoking weed you put in your part. Not to mention how Reynolds kinda elevated his career.
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People jump sponsors, who fucking cares. How many shoe sponsors did Carroll have in the 90s? 4?
Also, how many different shoe brands is Guy wearing in Mouse?
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People jump sponsors, who fucking cares. How many shoe sponsors did Carroll have in the 90s? 4?
People acting like Kader owes these companies anything. He signed a contract with Vans, the contract expired, and he went to a better contract elsewhere. Who the fuck cares about VF corp? I'm sure they'll survive.
He left RVCA for Supreme, and quit Bronson and Indy to skate for Spitfire and Venture. You want him to stay on Bronson forever because they started giving him free bearings when he was 14?
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real question is will he ever develop some power in his skating like tyshawn did or will he skate like a little kid forever
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHqh4F7jzHN/?igshid=1mvnosnwkswhw (https://www.instagram.com/p/CHqh4F7jzHN/?igshid=1mvnosnwkswhw)
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real question is will he ever develop some power in his skating like tyshawn did or will he skate like a little kid forever
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHqh4F7jzHN/?igshid=1mvnosnwkswhw (https://www.instagram.com/p/CHqh4F7jzHN/?igshid=1mvnosnwkswhw)
What point is the post in favor of ? Kid or power ?
Looks kid to me. Bunny hopping out of grind
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If was a successful skateboarder when I was 18 I would probably go for the $$$ too. At that age loyalty seemed very conceptual for me.
Who knows what’s going on behind the scenes ? Does he have an agent / manager ? I don’t know. Do I care ? Not that much, the kid does what he wants and we’ll see in the future if it was the right decisions...
That said, he looked good with Vans especially Half-Cabs.
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trying to look cool while smoking weed in videos is next level cringe
This.
Fair play to him getting the Nike sb $$$ but fat bill is whack. Stay with baker Kader. (Not the biggest fan of his big rail skating anyway)
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If was a successful skateboarder when I was 18 I would probably go for the $$$ too. At that age loyalty seemed very conceptual for me.
Who knows what’s going on behind the scenes ? Does he have an agent / manager ? I don’t know. Do I care ? Not that much, the kid does what he wants and we’ll see in the future if it was the right decisions...
That said, he looked good with Vans especially Half-Cabs.
Ive found the people who valorize loyalty the most are those with the fewest options to go elsewhere
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I guess Baker is the lesser evil of the skate industry. The image they try to cultivate is they are bunch of homies etc etc. It seems like that baker will try to help you have a career.Seems of course we don't know what goes in the back ground but with how all the team riders always seem to be taken care of ( oh you don't have a shoes sponsor we'll try to talk Emerica about it). Of course those sponsors may not have the biggest checks but it seems a bit more stable than other companies. I like Kader and I like FA too. I like Kader on Baker because it seems like he fits in. FA leans on a lot controversy on their decks( That trippy graphic with the rape victim on it http://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2015/05/26/are-shocking-skateboard-graphics-still-impactful/) but there is some cool stuff coming out of there like holographic decks. It seems very trendy and I don't like the idea of him leaving. He kinda fills a spot in the Baker team ( little kid that everyone hate/likes) so I don't know how that dynamic would work no matter how many clips of you smoking weed you put in your part. Not to mention how Reynolds kinda elevated his career.
Surprised that FA deck doesn't have its own thread on here.
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I'm really puzzled by the people so aggressively defending Kader's (very obvious) brand disloyalty.
Like, yeah.. he's a kid and he's gunna follow the money/what's cool. But for you folks to be in his back pocket so hard is really fucking weird.
I don't give a shit where he goes. And I'd 100% do the same as a kid his age. But idk who you think you're kidding..
Dude's gone through how many sponsors over the last few years? (Can someone who's bored go through and tally them up - I'm genuinely curious).
Mike V and Markovich catch heat all the time - not sure why this kid would be any different.
Mike V and Markovich are kooks in general and they don’t sponsor hop, they start unnecessary and unsuccessful board brands in quick succession
Yeah they do that too - but they also sponsor hop like crazy.
Do they? You sure they weren’t let go? Also...explain why it matters these skaters aren’t loyal to A BRAND.
They could have been - wouldn't surprise me at all.
I couldn't care less about who's loyal to who. I thought i made that clear in my original post.
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Bummed he left Vans because that's another skater sucked up by Nike (seriously, how much money does NIke SB make to sponsor half the industry?), But I can't be mad at a young nigga making money when that may be his only option to help his family. I'm Sure Vans paid OK but not nike money
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Him and Bill so sassy about switching from one corpo sponsor to another. It’s kind of funny. Wonder if these kids see guys like Gall doing renovations and odd jobs to make ends meet later in life and say fuck that. Cant blame em personally.
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Looks kid to me. Bunny hopping out of grind
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/014/745/139035361828.png)
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Nike Kader is ripping..
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHqglXZFsQ2/?igshid=15p6l4hpw0hu2
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Whole thread in tears that they didn’t get their own strain
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real question is will he ever develop some power in his skating like tyshawn did or will he skate like a little kid forever stop begging for weed money on his IG now
ftfy
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Ya'll are catty.
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Nike Kader is ripping..
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHqglXZFsQ2/?igshid=15p6l4hpw0hu2
His style is getting really good and he looks great in Dunks.
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Everybody’s been saying he’ll go to FA for years but for some reason I think he’ll stay on Baker. Maybe just wishful thinking. I’ve seen Reynolds and Kader joke with each other on Instagram about him of Baker at this point but he’s still there.
Sick edit and he looks good in dunks. Get paid Kader.
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Nike Kader is ripping..
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHqglXZFsQ2/?igshid=15p6l4hpw0hu2
style is significantly better than a year ago, for sure. way more relaxed and less little kid
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this is that Scram board he does the nollie bs flip & switch flip on, pretty crazy.
(https://i.imgur.com/cNze005.png?1)
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Imagine being a grown man and mad about any of this. If this means more food on his and his family's plate then of fucking course he's gonna take the deal, who wouldn't?
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Wow what a hard decision. Most people would kill for a shoe sponsor. Win-win, good for Kader.
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this is that Scram board he does the nollie bs flip & switch flip on, pretty crazy.
(https://i.imgur.com/cNze005.png?1)
What size venture would you need for those?!!
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Imagine being a grown man and mad about any of this. If this means more food on his and his family's plate then of fucking course he's gonna take the deal, who wouldn't?
Literally nobody is mad here except you, we’re just discussing his lack of loyalty and excessive sponsor hopping, not trying to stop the kid being able to provide for his family. Chill out ya gimp.
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Imagine being a grown man and mad about any of this. If this means more food on his and his family's plate then of fucking course he's gonna take the deal, who wouldn't?
Look man, I know you're quasi-illiterate, but being upset about "his lack of loyalty and excessive sponsor hopping" is exactly what I was referring to when I said "any of this". Hope this helps.
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this is that Scram board he does the nollie bs flip & switch flip on, pretty crazy.
(https://i.imgur.com/cNze005.png?1)
Ace 66s in a pinch
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this is that Scram board he does the nollie bs flip & switch flip on, pretty crazy.
(https://i.imgur.com/cNze005.png?1)
im going to guess he rides 5.8s. wild guess.
i wonder what size board/trucks he rides regularly. most folks were very into his little kid on 169s schtick, it may have helped his flick, but his kit now is better. scram is rad, and it was cool seeing that board in his part.
i thought both versions of the part were cool. thought the person walking in the beginning with the mask was staged
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When I graduated college last year, I had a job lined up and started just two weeks after my graduation. It was a decent job that I really enjoyed for the most part, my supervisor and boss were super supportive, and my coworkers were cool enough. It paid decently enough too. I wasn't balling, but I wasn't hurting for money either. I quit that job only two months in because I got an unexpected offer for an even better job. It paid better, was closer to where I lived, and offered great benefits. I felt super bad about quitting so early into that first job starting, but I would've been a fool not to take this other job. I'm still working that job right now, as we speak (shout out being able to work remotely during this pandemic).
Was I very fortunate and privileged to be able to get both jobs? Absolutely yes. Would anyone say I sold out for doing what I did? Probably not. Respect to Kader for taking advantage of the opportunities he's earned.
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I really think vans could have and should have out bid whatever the offer was. Whatever you think of Kader's productiveness, his following is huge these days.
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this is that Scram board he does the nollie bs flip & switch flip on, pretty crazy.
(https://i.imgur.com/cNze005.png?1)
im going to guess he rides 5.8s. wild guess.
i wonder what size board/trucks he rides regularly. most folks were very into his little kid on 169s schtick, it may have helped his flick, but his kit now is better. scram is rad, and it was cool seeing that board in his part.
i thought both versions of the part were cool. thought the person walking in the beginning with the mask was staged
For sure. A person wearing vans in his goodbye vans part, in the beginning no less. they should have someone in dunks walking by to really seal the deal.
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Imagine being a grown man and mad about any of this. If this means more food on his and his family's plate then of fucking course he's gonna take the deal, who wouldn't?
imagine being on a grown man on a message board that's known for talking shit and getting mad when people talk shit
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He actually looks good in Nikes. And it’s extremely rare that I like seeing Nike Sb on skaters feet.
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Nike Kader is ripping..
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHqglXZFsQ2/?igshid=15p6l4hpw0hu2
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When I graduated college last year, I had a job lined up and started just two weeks after my graduation. It was a decent job that I really enjoyed for the most part, my supervisor and boss were super supportive, and my coworkers were cool enough. It paid decently enough too. I wasn't balling, but I wasn't hurting for money either. I quit that job only two months in because I got an unexpected offer for an even better job. It paid better, was closer to where I lived, and offered great benefits. I felt super bad about quitting so early into that first job starting, but I would've been a fool not to take this other job. I'm still working that job right now, as we speak (shout out being able to work remotely during this pandemic).
Was I very fortunate and privileged to be able to get both jobs? Absolutely yes. Would anyone say I sold out for doing what I did? Probably not. Respect to Kader for taking advantage of the opportunities he's earned.
Advertising gig by chance?
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Imagine being a grown man and mad about any of this. If this means more food on his and his family's plate then of fucking course he's gonna take the deal, who wouldn't?
imagine being on a grown man on a message board that's known for talking shit and getting mad when people talk shit
Sure, I guess it just strikes me strange when people over the age of 30 are pocket-watching and emotionally invested in the professional actions of near-children.
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He’s really fucking good. Whatever’s to the rest.
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I don't get the 'loyalty' comments people keep bringing up. Should I still be working at McDonalds because they offered me my first job as a 16 year old?
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Imagine being a grown man and mad about any of this. If this means more food on his and his family's plate then of fucking course he's gonna take the deal, who wouldn't?
Lack of loyalty? He's been on Vans for what, two years? You still at the same job you had when you were 18? You're literally a fucking idiot. All the way down to the studs.
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yall are trippin like some real weirdos over here talmbout this kid (actual childs) "loyalty" to VF corp... this aint the fucking z-boys. taking a better deal to wear subjectively the only other shoes worth skating in let alone getting paid to skate in for presumably much more money.
dude looks like a fuckin G in those dunks and why the hell are all of you convinced him and reynolds are suddenly on bad terms. unless im missing something he said publicly hes probably hyped kader is getting money. but those Griffey dunks came out a minute ago so how long has he really been skating in dunks in secret lol.
2:02 is that a fucking supreme x baker tshirt? supremes done some really dumb edgelord collabs the last few years but thats fuckin sick if real. even if its not real someone send me one.
free max b
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Imagine being a grown man and mad about any of this. If this means more food on his and his family's plate then of fucking course he's gonna take the deal, who wouldn't?
Lack of loyalty? He's been on Vans for what, two years? You still at the same job you had when you were 18? You're literally a fucking idiot. All the way down to the studs.
^This
All of you are out here acting as if Van's brought Kader up or something, stuck with him through the rough times, he's not a vans kid like Curren Caples. All you guys throwing a fit over his loyalty to fucking VF Corp... while he's still gonna be cashing VF cheques every month anyway. Sponsor hopping on board sponsors, maybe that's kind of weird, like switching cliques/friends, but cmon guys does anything other than that make much of a difference? people still blowing a gasket over him swapping a truck sponsor, are you actually processing what you're complaining about?
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I was already sick of him before i saw a single clip but now i get it. Dude rips.
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I don't know, I doubt Nike is giving him a better offer.... or any offer outside of flowed shoes.
Not right now, during a pandemic, when the brand can't afford to renew any of their contracts that are expiring during these times, in big team sports as well as skateboarding. A lot of their track and field athletes have been seen training in other brands.They can't pay to keep relatively cheap contracts for legends like Gino, why would you think they could throw money at Kader?
He was gonna get royalties from that era shoe that some shops already have right? Why bail on that right before it comes out, and breach contract or whatever? Because I doubt VF Vans would have let him have a shoe come out without a contract that held him at least during the whole season of his colorway release.
And am I the only one who thinks that his song choice might be kinda a dick move? Unless he's just an innocent Tribe Called Quest super fan, choosing a song that's a well known diss track seems purposeful.
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I don't know, I doubt Nike is giving him a better offer.... or any offer outside of flowed shoes.
Not right now, during a pandemic, when the brand can't afford to renew any of their contracts that are expiring during these times, in big team sports as well as skateboarding. A lot of their track and field athletes have been seen training in other brands.They can't pay to keep relatively cheap contracts for legends like Gino, why would you think they could throw money at Kader?
He was gonna get royalties from that era shoe that some shops already have right? Why bail on that right before it comes out, and breach contract or whatever? Because I doubt VF Vans would have let him have a shoe come out without a contract that held him at least during the whole season of his colorway release.
And am I the only one who thinks that his song choice might be kinda a dick move? Unless he's just an innocent Tribe Called Quest super fan, choosing a song that's a well known diss track seems purposeful.
nah kader is has influence, I went to my local and half the baker boards say kader on em. Nike will pay money if they can turn a profit of a person. I can see it now him skating some hyped up travis scott dunk colorway or being in a edit for supreme dunks or some shit and muh fukkas just coppin. so they could have given him a good deal
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He's shedding that little kid / short person style for sure. How long is Dill gonna make us wait for the announcement, I saw that spray painted deck
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I don't know, I doubt Nike is giving him a better offer.... or any offer outside of flowed shoes.
Not right now, during a pandemic, when the brand can't afford to renew any of their contracts that are expiring during these times, in big team sports as well as skateboarding. A lot of their track and field athletes have been seen training in other brands.They can't pay to keep relatively cheap contracts for legends like Gino, why would you think they could throw money at Kader?
He was gonna get royalties from that era shoe that some shops already have right? Why bail on that right before it comes out, and breach contract or whatever? Because I doubt VF Vans would have let him have a shoe come out without a contract that held him at least during the whole season of his colorway release.
And am I the only one who thinks that his song choice might be kinda a dick move? Unless he's just an innocent Tribe Called Quest super fan, choosing a song that's a well known diss track seems purposeful.
nah kader is has influence, I went to my local and half the baker boards say kader on em. Nike will pay money if they can turn a profit of a person. I can see it now him skating some hyped up travis scott dunk colorway or being in a edit for supreme dunks or some shit and muh fukkas just coppin. so they could have given him a good deal
I dunno about that. I don't see Kader getting that check right now. Seriously, the company is cutting budget left and right.
My money is on them flowing him hyped shoes to keep him and his newly adopted Supreme styling happy for awhile, and will try to get him actual contract and money after the COVID times have passed. For now I bet Kader chomps at the bit way harder than he did on Vans, kinda like a way to prove his worth to Nike. Seems like he's posted more actual skating today on Insta than he did in the last year on Vans.
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Holy smokes how good is he, I just saw those indoor lines on Insta today, nuts
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My thought is he hung out with guys on Nike and he just wanted to be on Nike. He’s evolved from the dickies wearing, indy tranny skater to a rail chomping, baggy pants and Nike kinda guy. Just all the look
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They saw how fast the kader pack went
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Imagine being a grown man and mad about any of this. If this means more food on his and his family's plate then of fucking course he's gonna take the deal, who wouldn't?
Lack of loyalty? He's been on Vans for what, two years? You still at the same job you had when you were 18? You're literally a fucking idiot. All the way down to the studs.
^This
All of you are out here acting as if Van's brought Kader up or something
Literally nobody is acting like that.
Dude has gone through a lot of sponsors in a short amount of time. That's the extent of what people have been saying.
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Damn, kid has a mean switch flip!
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being annoyed by a contractor leaving one megacorporation for another is the most brainwashed shit i ever heard
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Him and Bill so sassy about switching from one corpo sponsor to another. It’s kind of funny. Wonder if these kids see guys like Gall doing renovations and odd jobs to make ends meet later in life and say fuck that. Cant blame em personally.
This. Uncle Freddy was supposed to get a lucrative contract with DC back in the day and squandered the opportunity. He has lamented about it in multiple interviews. It’s a shame he didn’t get the money when he could.
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I don't know, I doubt Nike is giving him a better offer.... or any offer outside of flowed shoes.
Not right now, during a pandemic, when the brand can't afford to renew any of their contracts that are expiring during these times, in big team sports as well as skateboarding. A lot of their track and field athletes have been seen training in other brands.They can't pay to keep relatively cheap contracts for legends like Gino, why would you think they could throw money at Kader?
He was gonna get royalties from that era shoe that some shops already have right? Why bail on that right before it comes out, and breach contract or whatever? Because I doubt VF Vans would have let him have a shoe come out without a contract that held him at least during the whole season of his colorway release.
And am I the only one who thinks that his song choice might be kinda a dick move? Unless he's just an innocent Tribe Called Quest super fan, choosing a song that's a well known diss track seems purposeful.
The insta version is a chief keef song which is more fitting. The tribe had to be strobecks choice, dude definitely is having fun pairing 90s music with kids playing dress up
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My only reason for assuming he'll leave Baker is because most dudes with the hype he has end up going to adifferent company after the company he had a breakthrough with has runs its course. Couldn't be happier for a kid I don't even know tho.
Love Kader's skating, and wish I could buy some of that pro weed. I don't really smoke weed anymore though, but I think it's pretty tight he's got his own strain.
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I don't know, I doubt Nike is giving him a better offer.... or any offer outside of flowed shoes.
Not right now, during a pandemic, when the brand can't afford to renew any of their contracts that are expiring during these times, in big team sports as well as skateboarding. A lot of their track and field athletes have been seen training in other brands.They can't pay to keep relatively cheap contracts for legends like Gino, why would you think they could throw money at Kader?
He was gonna get royalties from that era shoe that some shops already have right? Why bail on that right before it comes out, and breach contract or whatever? Because I doubt VF Vans would have let him have a shoe come out without a contract that held him at least during the whole season of his colorway release.
And am I the only one who thinks that his song choice might be kinda a dick move? Unless he's just an innocent Tribe Called Quest super fan, choosing a song that's a well known diss track seems purposeful.
He's getting paid.
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hes getting paid for sure. nobody buys shit because of gino but everyone would because of kader. hes got a long career ahead.
also if a skater skates for nike he can easily just sell limited dunks and pay rent with it
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My only reason for assuming he'll leave Baker is because most dudes with the hype he has end up going to adifferent company after the company he had a breakthrough with has runs its course. Couldn't be happier for a kid I don't even know tho.
Love Kader's skating, and wish I could buy some of that pro weed. I don't really smoke weed anymore though, but I think it's pretty tight he's got his own strain.
I thought Nike was all anti-drugs (including weed) surely they won’t be down for all his weed antics on IG?
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Nah man Chet kept it real and it went wrong have a go at rain man bradley
You just can’t explicitly say you buy hooter with the cheque that’s all
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anyways Baker reposted it on their story so he's not getting the Darius King treatment.
And Reynolds posted it with “Favorite Skater” so I wouldn’t worry about him becoming the first Nike skater on FA yet
.....KB.....Gino....probably more...
Donavon, Fitzgerald, Vincent, Terps, Nik, Caleb, (+ Swan, Sage, Louie, Kevin).
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Imagine being a grown man and mad about any of this. If this means more food on his and his family's plate then of fucking course he's gonna take the deal, who wouldn't?
Lack of loyalty? He's been on Vans for what, two years? You still at the same job you had when you were 18? You're literally a fucking idiot. All the way down to the studs.
Jobs and sponsorships are kinda different you
fucking clown. All we’re saying is it’s kinda weird that he’s not even 21 and he’s on his 3rd shoe sponsor? He’s chopped and changed other sponsors aswell, name one pro that’s changed up sponsors so much in such a short space of time? And before you say Mike V and Markovich, no, that’s not the same. Fucking Kook that you are.
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hes got one hell of a back 3
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Kids these days
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anyways Baker reposted it on their story so he's not getting the Darius King treatment.
And Reynolds posted it with “Favorite Skater” so I wouldn’t worry about him becoming the first Nike skater on FA yet
.....KB.....Gino....probably more...
Donavon, Fitzgerald, Vincent, Terps, Nik, Caleb, (+ Swan, Sage, Louie, Kevin).
Well Cons and/or Hockey riders don’t really count in the Nike riders on FA convo.
But I’ll give Vincent and Kevin Bradley. Gino on adidas and Terp hasn’t been seen skating to know whether he’s still on or not
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Holy smokes how good is he, I just saw those indoor lines on Insta today, nuts
Yep. Some of you have gotten pretty out of touch. Atleast watch some of his recent insta clips and the thankyouvans edit. The Chief Keef "Finally Rich" for his clips of leaving Vans and signing with Nike haha? It's pretty obvious he's gonna end up big like how KB, Nak, and TJ came up in Cherry. He's definitely getting paid.
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anyways Baker reposted it on their story so he's not getting the Darius King treatment.
And Reynolds posted it with “Favorite Skater” so I wouldn’t worry about him becoming the first Nike skater on FA yet
.....KB.....Gino....probably more...
Donavon, Fitzgerald, Vincent, Terps, Nik, Caleb, (+ Swan, Sage, Louie, Kevin).
Well Cons and/or Hockey riders don’t really count in the Nike riders on FA convo.
But I’ll give Vincent and Kevin Bradley. Gino on adidas and Terp hasn’t been seen skating to know whether he’s still on or not
Hockey is part of faworldentertainment and sold at fuckingawesomestore.com, but I did put em in brackets for semantics like you :)
And if you ride for Cons your account is credited with “Nike Inc” money, so you might not be skating Nikes, but they’re the ones paying you.
And whether Gino and Terps are of doesn’t change that Kader isn’t “the first Nike skater on FA”.
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Holy smokes how good is he, I just saw those indoor lines on Insta today, nuts
Yep. Some of you have gotten pretty out of touch. Atleast watch some of his recent insta clips and the thankyouvans edit. The Chief Keef "Finally Rich" for his clips of leaving Vans and signing with Nike haha? It's pretty obvious he's gonna end up big like how KB, Nak, and TJ came up in Cherry. He's definitely getting paid.
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My only reason for assuming he'll leave Baker is because most dudes with the hype he has end up going to adifferent company after the company he had a breakthrough with has runs its course. Couldn't be happier for a kid I don't even know tho.
Love Kader's skating, and wish I could buy some of that pro weed. I don't really smoke weed anymore though, but I think it's pretty tight he's got his own strain.
Have you seen Kevin Bradley's Instagram on any given day?
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Everybody’s been saying he’ll go to FA for years but for some reason I think he’ll stay on Baker. Maybe just wishful thinking. I’ve seen Reynolds and Kader joke with each other on Instagram about him of Baker at this point but he’s still there.
Sick edit and he looks good in dunks. Get paid Kader.
Wishful thinking for sure, LaterKader is out of there real soon to get paid FA/Nike/Supreme money. he’s obviously business/money minded and good for him, strike while you’re hot coming up. What’s the future at Baker? Maybe ask Cyril, Dee, Donta, Braydon, Antwaun, Tk.
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They’ll still outsell miaw tho
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Imagine being a grown man and mad about any of this. If this means more food on his and his family's plate then of fucking course he's gonna take the deal, who wouldn't?
Lack of loyalty? He's been on Vans for what, two years? You still at the same job you had when you were 18? You're literally a fucking idiot. All the way down to the studs.
fucking clown. All we’re saying is it’s kinda weird that he’s not even 21 and he’s on his 3rd shoe sponsor? He’s chopped and changed other sponsors aswell, name one pro that’s changed up sponsors so much in such a short space of time? And before you say Mike V and Markovich, no, that’s not the same. Fucking Kook that you are.
Why do you get to set the parameter that Mike V and Markovich can't be used? I can't put my finger on what the difference between Kader and those two are. Someone help me. Mr. Margaret Thatcher over here has me vexed.
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Imagine being a grown man and mad about any of this. If this means more food on his and his family's plate then of fucking course he's gonna take the deal, who wouldn't?
Lack of loyalty? He's been on Vans for what, two years? You still at the same job you had when you were 18? You're literally a fucking idiot. All the way down to the studs.
fucking clown. All we’re saying is it’s kinda weird that he’s not even 21 and he’s on his 3rd shoe sponsor? He’s chopped and changed other sponsors aswell, name one pro that’s changed up sponsors so much in such a short space of time? And before you say Mike V and Markovich, no, that’s not the same. Fucking Kook that you are.
You can call it whatever you want but these corporations only care about the money he is bringing in to them. He should be doing the same. Weird? Sure but when you have options like this and don't take them they disappear eventually. I'm not a huge Kader or Nike fan but am happy for him.
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anyways Baker reposted it on their story so he's not getting the Darius King treatment.
And Reynolds posted it with “Favorite Skater” so I wouldn’t worry about him becoming the first Nike skater on FA yet
.....KB.....Gino....probably more...
Donavon, Fitzgerald, Vincent, Terps, Nik, Caleb, (+ Swan, Sage, Louie, Kevin).
Well Cons and/or Hockey riders don’t really count in the Nike riders on FA convo.
But I’ll give Vincent and Kevin Bradley. Gino on adidas and Terp hasn’t been seen skating to know whether he’s still on or not
Gino is still on the Nike team page.
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My only reason for assuming he'll leave Baker is because most dudes with the hype he has end up going to adifferent company after the company he had a breakthrough with has runs its course. Couldn't be happier for a kid I don't even know tho.
Love Kader's skating, and wish I could buy some of that pro weed. I don't really smoke weed anymore though, but I think it's pretty tight he's got his own strain.
Have you seen Kevin Bradley's Instagram on any given day?
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Imagine being a grown man and mad about any of this. If this means more food on his and his family's plate then of fucking course he's gonna take the deal, who wouldn't?
Lack of loyalty? He's been on Vans for what, two years? You still at the same job you had when you were 18? You're literally a fucking idiot. All the way down to the studs.
fucking clown. All we’re saying is it’s kinda weird that he’s not even 21 and he’s on his 3rd shoe sponsor? He’s chopped and changed other sponsors aswell, name one pro that’s changed up sponsors so much in such a short space of time? And before you say Mike V and Markovich, no, that’s not the same. Fucking Kook that you are.
Why do you get to set the parameter that Mike V and Markovich can't be used? I can't put my finger on what the difference between Kader and those two are. Someone help me. Mr. Margaret Thatcher over here has me vexed.
If you can’t see the difference than it’s clearly you who is the fucking idiot.
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mang Kev Bradley might not put out four parts a year but he doesn’t have to, cunt is a fucking demon on a skateboard
Might be just me but I always liked the cunts that made skateboarding come to them he owes us nothing
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anyways Baker reposted it on their story so he's not getting the Darius King treatment.
And Reynolds posted it with “Favorite Skater” so I wouldn’t worry about him becoming the first Nike skater on FA yet
.....KB.....Gino....probably more...
Donavon, Fitzgerald, Vincent, Terps, Nik, Caleb, (+ Swan, Sage, Louie, Kevin).
Well Cons and/or Hockey riders don’t really count in the Nike riders on FA convo.
But I’ll give Vincent and Kevin Bradley. Gino on adidas and Terp hasn’t been seen skating to know whether he’s still on or not
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Imagine being a grown man and mad about any of this. If this means more food on his and his family's plate then of fucking course he's gonna take the deal, who wouldn't?
Lack of loyalty? He's been on Vans for what, two years? You still at the same job you had when you were 18? You're literally a fucking idiot. All the way down to the studs.
fucking clown. All we’re saying is it’s kinda weird that he’s not even 21 and he’s on his 3rd shoe sponsor? He’s chopped and changed other sponsors aswell, name one pro that’s changed up sponsors so much in such a short space of time? And before you say Mike V and Markovich, no, that’s not the same. Fucking Kook that you are.
You can call it whatever you want but these corporations only care about the money he is bringing in to them. He should be doing the same. Weird? Sure but when you have options like this and don't take them they disappear eventually. I'm not a huge Kader or Nike fan but am happy for him.
This. How fucking stupid do you have to be to criticize someone for taking a Nike deal at 18. It is money. Money. These corporations couldn't give less of a fuck about history as long as the pro is gonna sell shoes. Multiple pros have done this before.
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I feel like none of these mother freakers are taking ABC Hat Co. seriously anymore. Get back in the game.
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I'm pretty sure Baker, Nike and Supreme is better than FA, Nike and Supreme for Nike and Supreme ergo Andrew Reynolds is Julien Stranger 2.0/uncorporate, corporate king, the CEO of respect in skateboarding. Koston lost out to the throne when Numbers went under but actually way before that.
Kader is fucking up if he decides to skate for John Waters' cosplayer, reading on a walk.
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I don't know, I doubt Nike is giving him a better offer.... or any offer outside of flowed shoes.
Not right now, during a pandemic, when the brand can't afford to renew any of their contracts that are expiring during these times, in big team sports as well as skateboarding. A lot of their track and field athletes have been seen training in other brands.They can't pay to keep relatively cheap contracts for legends like Gino, why would you think they could throw money at Kader?
He was gonna get royalties from that era shoe that some shops already have right? Why bail on that right before it comes out, and breach contract or whatever? Because I doubt VF Vans would have let him have a shoe come out without a contract that held him at least during the whole season of his colorway release.
And am I the only one who thinks that his song choice might be kinda a dick move? Unless he's just an innocent Tribe Called Quest super fan, choosing a song that's a well known diss track seems purposeful.
nah kader is has influence, I went to my local and half the baker boards say kader on em. Nike will pay money if they can turn a profit of a person. I can see it now him skating some hyped up travis scott dunk colorway or being in a edit for supreme dunks or some shit and muh fukkas just coppin. so they could have given him a good deal
I dunno about that. I don't see Kader getting that check right now. Seriously, the company is cutting budget left and right.
My money is on them flowing him hyped shoes to keep him and his newly adopted Supreme styling happy for awhile, and will try to get him actual contract and money after the COVID times have passed. For now I bet Kader chomps at the bit way harder than he did on Vans, kinda like a way to prove his worth to Nike. Seems like he's posted more actual skating today on Insta than he did in the last year on Vans.
He would've got a shoe on Vans, there's no way he left that for Nike flow
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i hope koston has to wait in line for 2 days at supreme to get his cute little hat
How can a man of his age be into Supreme and hypebeast stuff?
Like seriously if you are that vacuous at that age and need special clothes to feel of worth, you are seriously seriously fried.
That's kooky imo
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i hope koston has to wait in line for 2 days at supreme to get his cute little hat
How can a man of his age be into Supreme and hypebeast stuff?
Like seriously if you are that vacuous at that age and need special clothes to feel of worth, you are seriously seriously fried.
That's kooky imo
Bc he gets it for free?
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Nike Kader is ripping..
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHqglXZFsQ2/?igshid=15p6l4hpw0hu2
Fully here for camo's and dunks Kader.
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Koston has been wearing supreme for years and years. Before it blew up. Hes part of the reason it blew up. And yeah I'd wear it too if I got it for free
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slap is so weird some times. there are pages and pages of threads talking about how big shoe companies are ruining skateboarding, and fucking over skate shops, but as soon as a pro jump ship to nike, thats just water under the bridge.
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it's almost as though there is more than one person who posts
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it's almost as though there is more than one person who posts
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it's almost as though there is more than one person who posts
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there are?
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hey i'd love if it were just fulltechnicalskizzy's
twitter feed geocities page
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Has anyone contemplated how weird of a choice the Tribe Called Quest song was?
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When I graduated college last year, I had a job lined up and started just two weeks after my graduation. It was a decent job that I really enjoyed for the most part, my supervisor and boss were super supportive, and my coworkers were cool enough. It paid decently enough too. I wasn't balling, but I wasn't hurting for money either. I quit that job only two months in because I got an unexpected offer for an even better job. It paid better, was closer to where I lived, and offered great benefits. I felt super bad about quitting so early into that first job starting, but I would've been a fool not to take this other job. I'm still working that job right now, as we speak (shout out being able to work remotely during this pandemic).
Was I very fortunate and privileged to be able to get both jobs? Absolutely yes. Would anyone say I sold out for doing what I did? Probably not. Respect to Kader for taking advantage of the opportunities he's earned.
Advertising gig by chance?
Nah, I work in housing at my former university now!
Also, that back smith pop out in that insta video compilation that Kader posted is fucking insane. You cannot watch that clip and still think that Kader skates like a little kid.
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young skaters want chief keef sosa but the filmers only want wu tang and a tribe called quest :(
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if someone sends me that kader weed i can confirm or deny allegations that hes a sellout
For real tho. Anyone cop that Zach Woods kader skater pack? Shit looks really good. Haven't bought weed that comes in a plastic tray like they are sour ribbons before. What a time to be alive.
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young skaters want chief keef sosa but the filmers only want wu tang and a tribe called quest :(
No. Young skaters want Rosemary Clooney's Botch-A-Me and filmers want Van Morrison drunk as hell in the Last Waltz.
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425 a Q though? Your gonna have to put in some more than that to open up talks.
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Has anyone contemplated how weird of a choice the Tribe Called Quest song was?
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young skaters want chief keef sosa but the filmers only want wu tang and a tribe called quest :(
No. Young skaters want Rosemary Clooney's Botch-A-Me and filmers want Van Morrison drunk as hell in the Last Waltz.
Haha, that is an epic performance (apparently he has crippling stage fright). Either way, Mesa using Caravan for Bobby Puleo's part in Penal Code is masterful.
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Am I tripping or is that about 3 times more than it should be? Is this like a luxury brand thing? I'm genuinely asking.
According to the IG, it's not on the West Coast yet but it does have to be packaged to be legally sold in California (although this law is taking a long time to get enforced.) I get the wild packaging because I think it just has to be sealed and then you're free to do something interesting but it still seems like it's spendy.
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Didn't Vans buy Supreme? So he still rides for them technically.
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And am I the only one who thinks that his song choice might be kinda a dick move? Unless he's just an innocent Tribe Called Quest super fan, choosing a song that's a well known diss track seems purposeful.
The chief keef song he used in the instagram version of the edit was "finally rich" lmao. If anything that's worse
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young skaters want chief keef sosa but the filmers only want wu tang and a tribe called quest :(
No. Young skaters want Rosemary Clooney's Botch-A-Me and filmers want Van Morrison drunk as hell in the Last Waltz.
Vans best song is the Cleaning Windows live version
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I don't know, I doubt Nike is giving him a better offer.... or any offer outside of flowed shoes.
Not right now, during a pandemic, when the brand can't afford to renew any of their contracts that are expiring during these times, in big team sports as well as skateboarding. A lot of their track and field athletes have been seen training in other brands.They can't pay to keep relatively cheap contracts for legends like Gino, why would you think they could throw money at Kader?
He was gonna get royalties from that era shoe that some shops already have right? Why bail on that right before it comes out, and breach contract or whatever? Because I doubt VF Vans would have let him have a shoe come out without a contract that held him at least during the whole season of his colorway release.
And am I the only one who thinks that his song choice might be kinda a dick move? Unless he's just an innocent Tribe Called Quest super fan, choosing a song that's a well known diss track seems purposeful.
The insta version is a chief keef song which is more fitting. The tribe had to be strobecks choice, dude definitely is having fun pairing 90s music with kids playing dress up
The tribe song chosen isn’t a diss track to anyone in particular, it is just calling out the state of the industry at the time, similar to De La Soul’s Stake is High which has much more obvious shots in it.
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I’m pretty sure this is just a temporary stop on the way to that Cariuma contract.
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I’m pretty sure this is just a temporary stop on the way to that Cariuma contract.
Are there any scientologists of colour?
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I’m pretty sure this is just a temporary stop on the way to that Cariuma contract.
Are there any scientologists of colour?
Chef from South Park and Michael Pena
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slap is so weird some times. there are pages and pages of threads talking about how big shoe companies are ruining skateboarding, and fucking over skate shops, but as soon as a pro jump ship to nike, thats just water under the bridge.
bunch of money slaves
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I’m pretty sure this is just a temporary stop on the way to that Cariuma contract.
Are there any scientologists of colour?
Chef from South Park and Michael Pena
They got Michael Pena?
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if someone sends me that kader weed i can confirm or deny allegations that hes a sellout
Seriously tho, whose smoked it?
425 a q sounds really fucking dumb. Either NY is on some dumb shit or it's more like 120-150 for a q. Still fucking stupid crazy price but hey...that's how the dispensaries do it.
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According to the IG, it's not on the West Coast yet but it does have to be packaged to be legally sold in California (although this law is taking a long time to get enforced.) I get the wild packaging because I think it just has to be sealed and then you're free to do something interesting but it still seems like it's spendy.
I got it wrong it was about 375 off rip but went up to 400 a quarter. It was a supreme collab so maybe its that.
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if someone sends me that kader weed i can confirm or deny allegations that hes a sellout
According to the IG, it's not on the West Coast yet but it does have to be packaged to be legally sold in California (although this law is taking a long time to get enforced.) I get the wild packaging because I think it just has to be sealed and then you're free to do something interesting but it still seems like it's spendy.
Is weed going up in price?? I was used to paying 10/g even sometimes 5/g for mids but now it’s all 15/g.
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I’m pretty sure this is just a temporary stop on the way to that Cariuma contract.
Are there any scientologists of colour?
Chef from South Park and Michael Pena
made me think of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVu-4K1b3i0
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According to the IG, it's not on the West Coast yet but it does have to be packaged to be legally sold in California (although this law is taking a long time to get enforced.) I get the wild packaging because I think it just has to be sealed and then you're free to do something interesting but it still seems like it's spendy.
With all the legalization I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't go up.
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if someone sends me that kader weed i can confirm or deny allegations that hes a sellout
According to the IG, it's not on the West Coast yet but it does have to be packaged to be legally sold in California (although this law is taking a long time to get enforced.) I get the wild packaging because I think it just has to be sealed and then you're free to do something interesting but it still seems like it's spendy.
There's definitely been some pandemic related inflation. Prices have definitely been all over the place but I haven't seen any prices triple. My local is currently getting 18/g for top shelf and that's up from 15/g. Supreme collab makes sense I guess but they can fuck right of with that. Premium denim horseshit
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if someone sends me that kader weed i can confirm or deny allegations that hes a sellout
According to the IG, it's not on the West Coast yet but it does have to be packaged to be legally sold in California (although this law is taking a long time to get enforced.) I get the wild packaging because I think it just has to be sealed and then you're free to do something interesting but it still seems like it's spendy.
Supreme collab...
As in its some random weed with a supreme logo on the pack.
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Been getting grams of Cookie Stomper at my local dispensary in Phoenix for 5 bucks. Where are you guys at? 18 a gram is fucking ridiculous.
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Of course a thread about Kader hopping sponsors turned mostly into a discussion about weed... fitting, given his instagram presence for the last half a year or more!
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Been getting grams of Cookie Stomper at my local dispensary in Phoenix for 5 bucks. Where are you guys at? 18 a gram is fucking ridiculous.
DC. When I was a kid it was 20 a g in Virginia but at some point it went way down. 5/g for decent mids. It’s now 120 a q if I want something like purple punch or jet fuel gelato.
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The change of influence, from Reynolds to Fat Bill is just not cool and not gonna do him any good.
And here comes the question, apart from Theotis who is loyal to cash, the full board sticker job, and Baker, is kader gonna fall into the TK, Antwan route and just become a pile? Has anyone else but Theotis made it that far, being black, on Baker?
Is Reynolds to blame? is it the image? Or just the fact that once let loose, they'll never be the same?
dumbest shit i've read on here in a while and that's saying a lot
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if someone sends me that kader weed i can confirm or deny allegations that hes a sellout
According to the IG, it's not on the West Coast yet but it does have to be packaged to be legally sold in California (although this law is taking a long time to get enforced.) I get the wild packaging because I think it just has to be sealed and then you're free to do something interesting but it still seems like it's spendy.
Depends on where you are. It can't be moved (legally) between states, and some states like Oregon gave out so many licenses that they far exceeded demand, and a few years later, there's still a bumper crop sitting on shelves. I think California, Washington and Colorado have figured out a balance, so the price was generally higher there
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The change of influence, from Reynolds to Fat Bill is just not cool and not gonna do him any good.
And here comes the question, apart from Theotis who is loyal to cash, the full board sticker job, and Baker, is kader gonna fall into the TK, Antwan route and just become a pile? Has anyone else but Theotis made it that far, being black, on Baker?
Is Reynolds to blame? is it the image? Or just the fact that once let loose, they'll never be the same?
dumbest shit i've read on here in a while and that's saying a lot
Not to mention, where is this whole “Reynolds to fat Bill” line coming from. Does fat bill have anything whatsoever to do with Nike or is it the assumption that everyone on Supreme will eventually join FA/Hockey (except for Rowan)
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I think the assumption is that Kader is like anakin. Hes on the killing tusken raiders stage rn and he'll get his sith title when he joins FA. Fat bill is the palpatine to reynold's obiwan.
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I think the assumption is that Kader is like anakin. Hes on the killing tusken raiders stage rn and he'll get his sith title when he joins FA. Fat bill is the palpatine to reynold's obiwan.
I don’t think that’s anyone’s assumption and a horrible analogy. Maybe don’t compare a black skater with a slave as well. Not a great look
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I think the assumption is that Kader is like anakin. Hes on the killing tusken raiders stage rn and he'll get his sith title when he joins FA. Fat bill is the palpatine to reynold's obiwan.
I don’t think that’s anyone’s assumption and a horrible analogy. Maybe don’t compare a black skater with a slave as well. Not a great look
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I think the assumption is that Kader is like anakin. Hes on the killing tusken raiders stage rn and he'll get his sith title when he joins FA. Fat bill is the palpatine to reynold's obiwan.
I don’t think that’s anyone’s assumption and a horrible analogy. Maybe don’t compare a black skater with a slave as well. Not a great look
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The change of influence, from Reynolds to Fat Bill is just not cool and not gonna do him any good.
And here comes the question, apart from Theotis who is loyal to cash, the full board sticker job, and Baker, is kader gonna fall into the TK, Antwan route and just become a pile? Has anyone else but Theotis made it that far, being black, on Baker?
Is Reynolds to blame? is it the image? Or just the fact that once let loose, they'll never be the same?
dumbest shit i've read on here in a while and that's saying a lot
Not to mention, where is this whole “Reynolds to fat Bill” line coming from. Does fat bill have anything whatsoever to do with Nike or is it the assumption that everyone on Supreme will eventually join FA/Hockey (except for Rowan)
My bad, just scrambled some thoughts together and forgot to read back to see if it made sense.
Let's try again.
Kader seemed very close to Reynolds, and the output was good. Once we've seen him hang around more with Bill and the Supreme crew, the attitude changed (of course it's surely an age thing). Not saying that the your friends/crew ARE the reasons why he's making these decisions, but maybe they influence them.
The other line was more focused on longevity on Baker, which seems obtained by not many people. Unfortunately, for statistics, even if there were some epic characters, most of 'em didn't end up with a profitable carreer.
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The change of influence, from Reynolds to Fat Bill is just not cool and not gonna do him any good.
And here comes the question, apart from Theotis who is loyal to cash, the full board sticker job, and Baker, is kader gonna fall into the TK, Antwan route and just become a pile? Has anyone else but Theotis made it that far, being black, on Baker?
Is Reynolds to blame? is it the image? Or just the fact that once let loose, they'll never be the same?
dumbest shit i've read on here in a while and that's saying a lot
Not to mention, where is this whole “Reynolds to fat Bill” line coming from. Does fat bill have anything whatsoever to do with Nike or is it the assumption that everyone on Supreme will eventually join FA/Hockey (except for Rowan)
My bad, just scrambled some thoughts together and forgot to read back to see if it made sense.
Let's try again.
Kader seemed very close to Reynolds, and the output was good. Once we've seen him hang around more with Bill and the Supreme crew, the attitude changed (of course it's surely an age thing). Not saying that the your friends/crew ARE the reasons why he's making these decisions, but maybe they influence them.
The other line was more focused on longevity on Baker, which seems obtained by not many people. Unfortunately, for statistics, even if there were some epic characters, most of 'em didn't end up with a profitable carreer.
Yeah I think he skated with Reynolds a lot because Stella was around his age and was an adult maybe his parents trusted at that young age. But Stella doesn’t seem to skate anymore and Kader is off with his own group. I have no idea who he skates with, but Reynolds doesn’t seem offended
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The change of influence, from Reynolds to Fat Bill is just not cool and not gonna do him any good.
And here comes the question, apart from Theotis who is loyal to cash, the full board sticker job, and Baker, is kader gonna fall into the TK, Antwan route and just become a pile? Has anyone else but Theotis made it that far, being black, on Baker?
Is Reynolds to blame? is it the image? Or just the fact that once let loose, they'll never be the same?
dumbest shit i've read on here in a while and that's saying a lot
Not to mention, where is this whole “Reynolds to fat Bill” line coming from. Does fat bill have anything whatsoever to do with Nike or is it the assumption that everyone on Supreme will eventually join FA/Hockey (except for Rowan)
My bad, just scrambled some thoughts together and forgot to read back to see if it made sense.
Let's try again.
Kader seemed very close to Reynolds, and the output was good. Once we've seen him hang around more with Bill and the Supreme crew, the attitude changed (of course it's surely an age thing). Not saying that the your friends/crew ARE the reasons why he's making these decisions, but maybe they influence them.
The other line was more focused on longevity on Baker, which seems obtained by not many people. Unfortunately, for statistics, even if there were some epic characters, most of 'em didn't end up with a profitable carreer.
Yeah I think he skated with Reynolds a lot because Stella was around his age and was an adult maybe his parents trusted at that young age. But Stella doesn’t seem to skate anymore and Kader is off with his own group. I have no idea who he skates with, but Reynolds doesn’t seem offended
shame if true, also thought stella is like 15 or so, so a good deal younger than kader. also odd that she stops skating after getting on element and vans.
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The change of influence, from Reynolds to Fat Bill is just not cool and not gonna do him any good.
And here comes the question, apart from Theotis who is loyal to cash, the full board sticker job, and Baker, is kader gonna fall into the TK, Antwan route and just become a pile? Has anyone else but Theotis made it that far, being black, on Baker?
Is Reynolds to blame? is it the image? Or just the fact that once let loose, they'll never be the same?
dumbest shit i've read on here in a while and that's saying a lot
Not to mention, where is this whole “Reynolds to fat Bill” line coming from. Does fat bill have anything whatsoever to do with Nike or is it the assumption that everyone on Supreme will eventually join FA/Hockey (except for Rowan)
My bad, just scrambled some thoughts together and forgot to read back to see if it made sense.
Let's try again.
Kader seemed very close to Reynolds, and the output was good. Once we've seen him hang around more with Bill and the Supreme crew, the attitude changed (of course it's surely an age thing). Not saying that the your friends/crew ARE the reasons why he's making these decisions, but maybe they influence them.
The other line was more focused on longevity on Baker, which seems obtained by not many people. Unfortunately, for statistics, even if there were some epic characters, most of 'em didn't end up with a profitable carreer.
Yeah I think he skated with Reynolds a lot because Stella was around his age and was an adult maybe his parents trusted at that young age. But Stella doesn’t seem to skate anymore and Kader is off with his own group. I have no idea who he skates with, but Reynolds doesn’t seem offended
shame if true, also thought stella is like 15 or so, so a good deal younger than kader. also odd that she stops skating after getting on element and vans.
I have no idea what the situation is. She used to be on skater’s IG and now she isn’t. Could be a change of interests or a variety of things. None of my business
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isn't she on Real?
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isn't she on Real?
Could see her on krooked
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isn't she on Real?
i might have been wrong with both, i remember something real related, but she's not on the page. don't follow her either, just thought it was cool she was coming up.
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Uhh... yea, whats up with adults keeping tabs on children?
Go pay your taxes or something.
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Don't check Kader, check your credit score.
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His Vans Era Pro colorway just went live on their site lolol.....
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/era-pro-kader-sylla-navy-red#hero=0
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I used really like NikeSB and especially dunks, but man, now whenever I see people in Dunks now, they just look like snowboard boots to me.
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fuck, thanks for reminding me i have some of the purple ones still in the box. guess i'll glue a swoosh on them.
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Wonder when thankyoubaker will drop?
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Don't check Kader, check your credit score.
You’d like us to lower our credit score, huh
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You’d like us to lower our credit score, huh
Checking your credit score doesn't lower it when you use Credit Karma
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His Vans Era Pro colorway just went live on their site lolol.....
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/era-pro-kader-sylla-navy-red#hero=0
How fast these gonna hit the sale rack haha
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Wonder when thankyoubaker will drop?
Soon to be on FA gang this industry shit ain't even exciting anymore
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I for one cannot believe that a teenager's identity is changing
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Every time you check Credit Karma, Kader gets an increasingly more expensive pair of dunks for free.
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lol if Kader were white people would be talking about how shrewd his moves are and what a go getter he was.
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lol if Kader were white people would be talking about how shrewd his moves are and what a go getter he was.
But people are saying it was a shrewd move, etc.
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Don't check Kader, check the air quality. Punk ass fellas
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Larry June quotes all over this thread. #NUMBERS
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lol if Kader were white people would be talking about how shrewd his moves are and what a go getter he was.
Damn son solid post
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His Vans Era Pro colorway just went live on their site lolol.....
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/era-pro-kader-sylla-navy-red#hero=0
Imagine the person at vans who wrote this with a straight face
"This fall, we turned Kader Sylla loose on the design for an Era Pro, resulting in a custom colorway that is as "Off The Wall" as his skating"
Looks like a bad knockoff off those swan Pablos cons released last year. Kaders a troll honestly, not only leaving vans but leaving them with a dead stock colorway like this, is laughable.
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Just a random theory, but hear me out
I think the sudden team switches are actually a tactic used by big brands like Nike and Adidas to sabotage other brands. I wouldn't be surprised if Nike paid Kader extra to announce he's on Nike with a random Strobeck video just as he has a colorway on Vans coming out, because it hurts them a bit more financially and image-wise. I think the situation was the same with Adidas stealing MJ off Lakai unannounced with a shoe coming out. They wanted him to sabotage Lakai on his way out.
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His Vans Era Pro colorway just went live on their site lolol.....
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/era-pro-kader-sylla-navy-red#hero=0
he's on fourstar now, too?
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His Vans Era Pro colorway just went live on their site lolol.....
https://www.vans.com/shop/mens-shoes-skate/era-pro-kader-sylla-navy-red#hero=0
Imagine the person at vans who wrote this with a straight face
"This fall, we turned Kader Sylla loose on the design for an Era Pro, resulting in a custom colorway that is as "Off The Wall" as his skating"
Looks like a bad knockoff off those swan Pablos cons released last year. Kaders a troll honestly, not only leaving vans but leaving them with a dead stock colorway like this, is laughable.
If someone released that shoe with my name attached to it I'd be looking for some Nikes too
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Is this first emerica to nike roster change ever?
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Is this first emerica to nike roster change ever?
Nope. Trevor Colden
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He quit both emerica and vans just as his color way was releasing.
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He quit both emerica and vans just as his color way was releasing.
I’m telling you, this has got to be a strategy from the bigger brand riders leave for. Marc Johnson was just a pawn in this game, probably still getting paid by Adidas for sabotaging Lakai.
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I was just thinking about how him doing this reminds me of Trevor's going pro debacle. Leaving right as a company had dumped loads of money into you, leaving them with a backlog of product that they have to deal with.
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He quit both emerica and vans just as his color way was releasing.
I’m telling you, this has got to be a strategy from the bigger brand riders leave for. Marc Johnson was just a pawn in this game, probably still getting paid by Adidas for sabotaging Lakai.
:o
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I heard from someone at Vans that he's not even on Nike, just didn't resign his Vans contract and kept pushing it back, now he's wearing Nike's everyday but doesn't have a deal with them even. Nike hasn't posted anything about him and doesn't follow him.
I'm sure they'll figure something out, but Nike just dropped a bunch of team, so it'd be a slap in their faces to drop loads of guys then just add Kader.
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I heard from someone at Vans that he's not even on Nike, just didn't resign his Vans contract and kept pushing it back, now he's wearing Nike's everyday but doesn't have a deal with them even. Nike hasn't posted anything about him and doesn't follow him.
I'm sure they'll figure something out, but Nike just dropped a bunch of team, so it'd be a slap in their faces to drop loads of guys then just add Kader.
Ok so where is he getting all those Dunks?!!
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I heard from someone at Vans that he's not even on Nike, just didn't resign his Vans contract and kept pushing it back, now he's wearing Nike's everyday but doesn't have a deal with them even. Nike hasn't posted anything about him and doesn't follow him.
I'm sure they'll figure something out, but Nike just dropped a bunch of team, so it'd be a slap in their faces to drop loads of guys then just add Kader.
Euro team manager.
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eniz
I was thinking deedz, but maybe it was Eniz I was thinking of
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He quit both emerica and vans just as his color way was releasing.
I’m telling you, this has got to be a strategy from the bigger brand riders leave for. Marc Johnson was just a pawn in this game, probably still getting paid by Adidas for sabotaging Lakai.
Yeah it was MJ that sabotaged Lakai and not their hideous designs and collaborations with Lena Dunham and other “who cares” types
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Eniz Fazilov
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i'm not sure, but didn't wieger van wageningen ride for emerica before he got on nike?
EDIT: ah, he might have been on dc actually. i don't know...
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EDIT: ah, he might have been on dc actually. i don't know...
I remember wieger on Ès?
Around the time "riding shotgun with wieger" that firm tour video came out he was rocking accels, no? don't know if he was ever fully on or just skating accels like everybody else though...
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EDIT: ah, he might have been on dc actually. i don't know...
I remember wieger on Ès?
Around the time "riding shotgun with wieger" that firm tour video came out he was rocking accels, no? don't know if he was ever fully on or just skating accels like everybody else though...
that is correct, he even had a contract colorway i think. i just rewatched a bunch of old footage, too, haha.
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that darrell comparison s so fitting!
i always thought it was strange how everyone especially reynolds catered him with all these opportunities turning him pro real young... basically spoiling him- i wonder if kader s ever heard the word no in many regards
in the long run that might not have been a good choice for everyone especially kader
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Yeah man, I needed Kader to stay on Vans so that when we get to his Bunt episode 10 years from now we could hear him have no regrets about turning down a chance to skate for Nike to stay on Vans. "Sometimes I use my Era Pro colorway to eat soup with because I can't afford silverware. Glad I turned down that Nike money so the idiots on Slap would respect me, though."
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Yeah man, I needed Kader to stay on Vans so that when we get to his Bunt episode 10 years from now we could hear him have no regrets about turning down a chance to skate for Nike to stay on Vans. "Sometimes I use my Era Pro colorway to eat soup with because I can't afford silverware. Glad I turned down that Nike money so the idiots on Slap would respect me, though."
lol yeah i’m sure he wasn’t making any $ on vans, when was the last time you saw anyone wearing a pair of vans anyway
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that darrell comparison s so fitting!
Yeah, it’s great - they’re both black sponsored skateboarders who quit Vans, so obviously they’re kindred spirits.
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That vans colorway is terrible I can’t imagine too many people want that. I don’t blame him.
The kader is just buying dunks theory is pretty funny. He’s just been getting them backdoored at supreme to sell like every other pro with a shop sponsor that gets the hype shit. Kader said fuck it tho and started skating in the ones not hitting for anything on stockx. Unlikely but what do I know. That footage in those Griffey dunks has to be old tho.
Still can’t tell if that’s supposed to be a supreme x Baker tshirt. Would be sick
Free max b
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that darrell comparison s so fitting!
i always thought it was strange how everyone especially reynolds catered him with all these opportunities turning him pro real young... basically spoiling him- i wonder if kader s ever heard the word no in many regards
in the long run that might not have been a good choice for everyone especially kader
Reynolds has to be worst offender of this. Look at all the kids he pushed and they piled out.
Ya think he’d learn his lesson.
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that darrell comparison s so fitting!
i always thought it was strange how everyone especially reynolds catered him with all these opportunities turning him pro real young... basically spoiling him- i wonder if kader s ever heard the word no in many regards
in the long run that might not have been a good choice for everyone especially kader
Ya think he’d learn his lesson.
It feels like Reynolds tried to put together another "kid crew" with Tyson, Kader, Donta, Tfunk an Zach Allen after Fat Bill put out Cherry and Kader ended up being the only one with any real marketability.
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that darrell comparison s so fitting!
i always thought it was strange how everyone especially reynolds catered him with all these opportunities turning him pro real young... basically spoiling him- i wonder if kader s ever heard the word no in many regards
in the long run that might not have been a good choice for everyone especially kader
Ya think he’d learn his lesson.
It feels like Reynolds tried to put together another "kid crew" with Tyson, Kader, Donta, Tfunk an Zach Allen after Fat Bill put out Cherry and Kader ended up being the only one with any real marketability.
Made Baker pretty lame. They’d put Dee on and I didn’t think twice about it. Long haired dude in skinny jeans that smokes weed. Baker. Just seems like they’re following the trends now. But they’ve always had little kids. Herman and TK and Evan.
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that darrell comparison s so fitting!
i always thought it was strange how everyone especially reynolds catered him with all these opportunities turning him pro real young... basically spoiling him- i wonder if kader s ever heard the word no in many regards
in the long run that might not have been a good choice for everyone especially kader
Ya think he’d learn his lesson.
It feels like Reynolds tried to put together another "kid crew" with Tyson, Kader, Donta, Tfunk an Zach Allen after Fat Bill put out Cherry and Kader ended up being the only one with any real marketability.
And Spanky and Knox and Braydon and Theotis and Rammy Issa, etc... Baker has always done this and invented this 'trend' as you guys are putting it
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that darrell comparison s so fitting!
i always thought it was strange how everyone especially reynolds catered him with all these opportunities turning him pro real young... basically spoiling him- i wonder if kader s ever heard the word no in many regards
in the long run that might not have been a good choice for everyone especially kader
Ya think he’d learn his lesson.
It feels like Reynolds tried to put together another "kid crew" with Tyson, Kader, Donta, Tfunk an Zach Allen after Fat Bill put out Cherry and Kader ended up being the only one with any real marketability.
And Spanky and Knox and Braydon and Theotis and Rammy Issa, etc... Baker has always done this and invented this 'trend' as you guys are putting it
It's almost as if Baker has always been a little kid company and everyone who grew up screaming "BAKER BAKER BAKER" is finally realizing it.
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baker is for kids, anti hero is for grown ups and adults
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baker is for kids, anti hero is for grown ups and adults that still act like kids
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natural koncept is strictly ridden by captains of industry and patrons of the arts
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baker is for kids, NOT CARING ABOUT THE BRAND BUT MORE ABOUT THE SHAPE WIDTH ETC ETC is for grown ups and adults
Function over fashion right?
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baker is for kids, NOT CARING ABOUT THE BRAND BUT MORE ABOUT THE SHAPE WIDTH ETC ETC is for grown ups and adults
Thats kind of like telling a music fan not to care about bands and just play their guitar. They goes hand in hand.
Function over fashion right?
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I heard from someone at Vans that he's not even on Nike, just didn't resign his Vans contract and kept pushing it back, now he's wearing Nike's everyday but doesn't have a deal with them even. Nike hasn't posted anything about him and doesn't follow him.
I'm sure they'll figure something out, but Nike just dropped a bunch of team, so it'd be a slap in their faces to drop loads of guys then just add Kader.
I heard from someone at Nike that they aren't paying him yet. Emphasis on yet. Sounds like they probably will after they get their budget figured out and get money for bringing back some of the dropped people too, like Gino. The company laid off 700+ people and put a company-wide freeze on any contact signing or re-signing across all sports.
So for now, Kader left a paying contract at Vans to get flowed shoes and no pay for awhile. They've got a guy who seeds those high hyped Dunks to people in the skate world, I'm sure he just added Kader to that list for now.
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Was he really "On" Vans, or Emerica, as a top pro? or was he a 2nd tier pro? Like was he going to be getting a shoe? Reynolds probably happy with Vans as a 2nd tier pro and no shoe and less responsibility.
It is likely that Nike offered him a deal as a top pro and those other companies weren't ready to take that chance on him yet. Maybe he will be gettting a shoe on Nike in a couple years part of the contract. Semes like it would be dumb to not take that tbh if thats what was being offered.
vans already has a shitload of guys they are invested in, im not really sure whats going on with emerica but they probably just never had the budget to put him on like that, even as a pro in the first place probably, and i think they are also invested into those other guys dakota servold + jon dickson for the next few years.
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Was he really "On" Vans, or Emerica, as a top pro? or was he a 2nd tier pro? Like was he going to be getting a shoe? Reynolds probably happy with Vans as a 2nd tier pro and no shoe and less responsibility.
It is likely that Nike offered him a deal as a top pro and those other companies weren't ready to take that chance on him yet. Maybe he will be gettting a shoe on Nike in a couple years part of the contract. Semes like it would be dumb to not take that tbh if thats what was being offered.
vans already has a shitload of guys they are invested in, im not really sure whats going on with emerica but they probably just never had the budget to put him on like that, even as a pro in the first place probably, and i think they are also invested into those other guys dakota servold + jon dickson for the next few years.
Nike ain't giving him a pro-shoe, at least anytime soon. Nike doesn't seem to really like giving guys pro shoes anyway, more giving them colorways on popular shoes or whatever the Shane Janowski is. Although, they probably pay many guys like they do have a pro-shoe.
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I was board shopping and the only one there that i’d ride was a baker.
I walked away boardless. Being a grown man, i just couldn’t do it.
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I walked away boardless. Being a grown man, i just couldn’t do it.
adulthood is about making sacrifices, better to run around the spot with an invinsible board then riding a board made by a kids company
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I walked away boardless. Being a grown man, i just couldn’t do it.
adulthood is about making sacrifices, better to run around the spot with an invinsible board then riding a board made by a kids company
I was in dire need for a wall hanger. Haven’t stepped foot on a board in years.
Just stare at them and reminisce.
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I walked away boardless. Being a grown man, i just couldn’t do it.
adulthood is about making sacrifices, better to run around the spot with an invinsible board then riding a board made by a kids company
Just stare at them and reminisce.
safety first dude, i bet the man cave is looking sick rn
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Kader is not getting a pro shoe. Think of the pros on Nike that don't have their own pro shoe just colorways: Shane, Ishod, Malto, Olson, Mariano, Luan. All of those guys were at the peak of their relevance and nike only gave SOME of them colorways. Kader's just gonna get free dunks and a decent contract.
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Kader is not getting a pro shoe. Think of the pros on Nike that don't have their own pro shoe just colorways: Shane, Ishod, Malto, Olson, Mariano, Luan. All of those guys were at the peak of their relevance and nike only gave SOME of them colorways. Kader's just gonna get free dunks and a decent contract.
https://www.nike.com/t/sb-shane-t-skate-shoe-5Fw4Fj/BV0657-100?nikemt=true&cp=96413943330_search_%7cPRODUCT_GROUP%7cGOOGLE%7c71700000041489782%7cAll_X_X_X_X-Device_X_Nike-Clearance_X%7c%7cc&&ds_e_ad_type=pla&gclid=CjwKCAiA2O39BRBjEiwApB2IktsrOS8BztnrVbmcvpLq4bPN0ri-2G7XjFFAMOFIisy92lZOdAg5NxoCV5gQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
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Heard hes been getting Nikes for awhile now. Was wearing them all the time and would just put vans on to film a trick and got over it.
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Kader is not getting a pro shoe. Think of the pros on Nike that don't have their own pro shoe just colorways: Shane, Ishod, Malto, Olson, Mariano, Luan. All of those guys were at the peak of their relevance and nike only gave SOME of them colorways. Kader's just gonna get free dunks and a decent contract.
Getting a Nike pro model is meant to be a big deal. They rarely give them out amongst basketball players and rarely amongst football 🏈 players.
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Kader is not getting a pro shoe. Think of the pros on Nike that don't have their own pro shoe just colorways: Shane, Ishod, Malto, Olson, Mariano, Luan. All of those guys were at the peak of their relevance and nike only gave SOME of them colorways. Kader's just gonna get free dunks and a decent contract.
Getting a Nike pro model is meant to be a big deal. They rarely give them out amongst basketball players and rarely amongst football 🏈 players.
Pretty much, if you aren't lined up to get a shoe on Vans, there's no chance you are getting one on Nike. Outside of Janoski, who has a pro shoe with Nike still because his shoe is a crazy seller, anyone who has a pro-shoe on Nike would get one on Vans, does anyone on Vans with a pro-model get one on Nike? Not saying the guys on Vans who have one aren't worthy, but when guys like GT or Ishod are just getting modified Dunks or Blazers, when they'd get a pro-shoe anywhere else sort of tells you what the landscape is.
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Kader is not getting a pro shoe. Think of the pros on Nike that don't have their own pro shoe just colorways: Shane, Ishod, Malto, Olson, Mariano, Luan. All of those guys were at the peak of their relevance and nike only gave SOME of them colorways. Kader's just gonna get free dunks and a decent contract.
That shoe is fugly so I chose to ignore it.
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Janoski shoe isn't special. He got extremely lucky that his pro model basically looks like a Vans shoe. Nike will put Kader on once things are back to "normal".
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wonder if he s blown it with everyone already and end up delusional without any sponsors when all his contracts are up
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at this point, i think kader is just fucking with slap/the shoe industry.
i kind of back this.
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Lmao this is getting amazing. Can’t wait to see how people lose their shit now.
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Kader Sylla of axion when
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Lmao this is getting amazing. Can’t wait to see how people lose their shit now.
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wonder if he s blown it with everyone already and end up delusional without any sponsors when all his contracts are up
Not a stretch of the imagination.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CJKPnzHFqDN/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
maybe he's playing adidas and nike back and forth against each other for the fatter contract.
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I could see him wearing adidas
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Was he really "On" Vans, or Emerica, as a top pro? or was he a 2nd tier pro? Like was he going to be getting a shoe? Reynolds probably happy with Vans as a 2nd tier pro and no shoe and less responsibility.
It is likely that Nike offered him a deal as a top pro and those other companies weren't ready to take that chance on him yet. Maybe he will be gettting a shoe on Nike in a couple years part of the contract. Semes like it would be dumb to not take that tbh if thats what was being offered.
vans already has a shitload of guys they are invested in, im not really sure whats going on with emerica but they probably just never had the budget to put him on like that, even as a pro in the first place probably, and i think they are also invested into those other guys dakota servold + jon dickson for the next few years.
He left Emerica a season before his colorway was supposed to drop, same for Vans and his colorway release there - giving someone a colorway and having them on the team page seems like they're invested in him.
Also wonder if he's really gonna get on nike or not? Word on the streets is that Nike is supposed to pull out of most skateshops next year as well as dropping a chunk of team riders
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at this point, i think kader is just fucking with slap/the shoe industry.
i kind of back this.
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this shits funny i back it
free max b
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this shits funny i back it
free max b
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wonder if he s blown it with everyone already and end up delusional without any sponsors when all his contracts are up
Not a stretch of the imagination.
That's absolutely a stretch of the imagination haha. He's easily one of the most popular skaters right now. He's definitely going to be picked up by either Adidas or Nike in the new year.
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okay enoughs enough hes got a couple weeks before vans re-signs so he can wear whatever he wants in the meantime.
but every pro is flipping dunks regrdless of sponsor rn shits free money buddy, someones gotta do it.
free max b
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You guys ain't mentioning the fact that he's also wearing some Dunks on that new post. I think he just wants to get on a bigger brand of shoes is wearing said brands to get their attention...
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You guys ain't mentioning the fact that he's also wearing some Dunks on that new post. I think he just wants to get on a bigger brand of shoes is wearing said brands to get their attention...
His story literally has a poll right now saying Nike or Adidas. I voted Nike myself.
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Lol. He looks better in dunks tho.
(https://i.ibb.co/4Y36qr2/A788-BCEB-36-C3-4005-BF99-F0-BF11-B987-DD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Hx3WS8C)
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I heard from someone at Vans that he's not even on Nike, just didn't resign his Vans contract and kept pushing it back, now he's wearing Nike's everyday but doesn't have a deal with them even. Nike hasn't posted anything about him and doesn't follow him.
I'm sure they'll figure something out, but Nike just dropped a bunch of team, so it'd be a slap in their faces to drop loads of guys then just add Kader.
Euro team manager.
fucking told you guys ;)
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C1RCA COMBAT gonna pick him up next year
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He's not in it for the play money
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Propably ends up on some Vita shoes or something like that.
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Airwalk come back with Kader as the main posterboy could sell shoes in this time and age.
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I realized I’m an old when I thought “regardless of where he ends up, ANYTHING will be better for his feet than vans.”
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I like vans
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he should start wearing one nike one adidas shoe
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Kid is beyond overrated and apparently not loyal nor willing to do any long haul work with sponsors.
Drugs and what is perceived to be an infinite amount of money will get him. If he mattered in two years from now, I’d be shocked.
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he should start wearing one nike one adidas shoe
why sign your whole body to a single sponsor, really limiting your earning potential
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he should start wearing one nike one adidas shoe
One high top, one slip on
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Kid is beyond overrated and apparently not loyal nor willing to do any long haul work with sponsors.
Drugs and what is perceived to be an infinite amount of money will get him. If he mattered in two years from now, I’d be shocked.
Fucking nitwit. Why is he obligated to work with a sponsor beyond the length of a contract? What is so complicated about this point. You think his sponsors would be willing to work with him “long term” if he blew out his knee?
Love how willing people are to support management over employees/contractors (not gonna mention race but it’s not dissimilar in pro sports where billionaires are sided with over the millionaires)
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Fuck companies whats wrong with yall. Vans got so much cooler when they had him and he wore those all black black sole vans. They earned money off of a kid.
I can understand a deck Sponsor change might be complicated for a friendship but it really shouldnt. Dont let money be a tool for FRIENDS
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The real question is what shoe looks best while Fat Bill is zooming in on his open mouth
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Kid is beyond overrated and apparently not loyal nor willing to do any long haul work with sponsors.
Drugs and what is perceived to be an infinite amount of money will get him. If he mattered in two years from now, I’d be shocked.
I'm not a Kader fan but he can do what he wants and if he burns out that's too bad for him.
I do think he is talented though and company loyalty is bullshit used to underpay people.
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I realized I’m an old when I thought “regardless of where he ends up, ANYTHING will be better for his feet than vans.”
Agreed, i am also an old
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Kid is beyond overrated and apparently not loyal nor willing to do any long haul work with sponsors.
Drugs and what is perceived to be an infinite amount of money will get him. If he mattered in two years from now, I’d be shocked.
What a wack thing to say. Like other ppl are saying no one owes these corporations shit. All they do is use you for marketing and throw you to the curb like you never existed unless you’re Michael Jordan and give them billions in revenue. Let the kid get his money. I wasn’t a fan of Kader early on but now that he’s growing up and has his own style I think he’s dope. How miserable are you? You’re on some pathetic bird ass shit.
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Kid is beyond overrated and apparently not loyal nor willing to do any long haul work with sponsors.
Drugs and what is perceived to be an infinite amount of money will get him. If he mattered in two years from now, I’d be shocked.
You continually prove to be one of the most delusional posters on this message board. Congratulations.
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Was he really "On" Vans, or Emerica, as a top pro? or was he a 2nd tier pro? Like was he going to be getting a shoe? Reynolds probably happy with Vans as a 2nd tier pro and no shoe and less responsibility.
It is likely that Nike offered him a deal as a top pro and those other companies weren't ready to take that chance on him yet. Maybe he will be gettting a shoe on Nike in a couple years part of the contract. Semes like it would be dumb to not take that tbh if thats what was being offered.
vans already has a shitload of guys they are invested in, im not really sure whats going on with emerica but they probably just never had the budget to put him on like that, even as a pro in the first place probably, and i think they are also invested into those other guys dakota servold + jon dickson for the next few years.
He left Emerica a season before his colorway was supposed to drop, same for Vans and his colorway release there - giving someone a colorway and having them on the team page seems like they're invested in him.
Also wonder if he's really gonna get on nike or not? Word on the streets is that Nike is supposed to pull out of most skateshops next year as well as dropping a chunk of team riders
It’s funny cause his new colorway popped up the website with full “kader” branding after he left too.
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A poll? Hope Nike and adidas see that shit and ghost that kid.
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Let the kid sponsor hop and play the game, fuck it. He’s really growing into his style and his footage is a joy to watch. I know it’s been said before but he is reminiscent of a young Lavar.
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Let the kid sponsor hop and play the game, fuck it. He’s really growing into his style and his footage is a joy to watch. I know it’s been said before but he is reminiscent of a young Lavar.
Lavar did lines. Kadar skates like the main LA pro skaters that mainly do big single tricks.
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every post on here adds a thou to that contract and i love it
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Would y’all want the sponsors your 14 year old self chose?
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Would y’all want the sponsors your 14 year old self chose?
i don’t think black label is around anymore?!
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Would y’all want the sponsors your 14 year old self chose?
i don’t think black label is around anymore?!
I'd still be on Black Label and Duffs myself
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Would y’all want the sponsors your 14 year old self chose?
i don’t think black label is around anymore?!
I'd still be on Black Label and Duffs myself
i too loved jason adams as a 14 year old
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Kid is beyond overrated and apparently not loyal nor willing to do any long haul work with sponsors.
Drugs and what is perceived to be an infinite amount of money will get him. If he mattered in two years from now, I’d be shocked.
Glad you’re following along!
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Kader should sign with Nike once he figures "it" out. Take the money and run, his 30 year hold self would appreciate it. Can't skate forever, eff getting some lame day job once you're done on the board.
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waiting for the inevitable post of him doing all those tricks over that bank skating in timbs.
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Why does anyone care? He still hasn’t really released a marquee part. Baker 4 was a weird underwhelming mix that wasn’t bad, but forgettable. His style is improving, but there’s only so much IG park footage and shitty edits one can put out before the hype simmers.
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Kader should sign with Nike once he figures "it" out. Take the money and run, his 30 year hold self would appreciate it. Can't skate forever, eff getting some lame day job once you're done on the board.
yeah thats the only other option
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Kader should sign with Nike once he figures "it" out. Take the money and run, his 30 year hold self would appreciate it. Can't skate forever, eff getting some lame day job once you're done on the board.
yeah thats the only other option
I'm sure most of the pros with Nike contracts aren't mad at the decision to ride the Swoosh, Lisa. Everyone wants to live a kush life post skate career.
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Would y’all want the sponsors your 14 year old self chose?
i don’t think black label is around anymore?!
I'd still be on Black Label and Duffs myself
i too loved jason adams as a 14 year old
I am with all ov you here on either
Black Label & Duffs
Or
Flip & Vans
Or
Baker & Emerica
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hE iS oVeRrAtEd
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJKPnzHFqDN/?igshid=ferip74imcpi
Sorry dawg. Not bad by any means, but in 2020 a couple skatepark flip tricks cut up to future(?) ain't exactly standout content.
He sponsor hops more than anyone else in recent times but I have no vested interest in these companies. I don't get the hype but am also not 12. Kids obviously like him enough to get these companies to entertain all this.
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Almost getting to Kader Markovich status. Anyone remember when Tyshawn was skating Nikes for a brief minute before going to ///?
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He's right on track to go down Antwuan Street.
Was I imagining things, or did I see a clip of Reynolds giving Kader a buzz cut and finding a huge mass of psoriasis on his scalp?
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He's right on track to go down Antwuan Street.
Was I imagining things, or did I see a clip of Reynolds giving Kader a buzz cut and finding a huge mass of psoriasis on his scalp?
What? Why is he on track to be like Antwuan? Because he smokes weed and changes his sponsors?
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He's right on track to go down Antwuan Street.
Was I imagining things, or did I see a clip of Reynolds giving Kader a buzz cut and finding a huge mass of psoriasis on his scalp?
And is Black??! Fucking racist pig!
As i said before, antwuan was battling personal losses and feeling alone. His lifestyle alone didnt turn him the way he was. His thinking was blocked by depression and Drug use was making him numb. Kader seems like a happy kid Smoking weed like any other kid does his age.
Fuck Companys bro they earn money off of you go anywhere you want. I love the idea of being sponsored by someone just for year or so
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When people say Antwuan is it because they can’t think of a second super popular black skater because I don’t see any commonalities other than Baker. Darrell Stanton is the obvious correlation to make if you’re going down this dumb path with leaving Real/Vans for the Plan B/DC shit show and kooking himself out of the industry
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CJKPnzHFqDN/?igshid=ferip74imcpi
He sponsor hops more than anyone else in recent times but I have no vested interest in these companies. I don't get the hype but am also not 12. Kids obviously like him enough to get these companies to entertain all this.
yeah exactly wtf he just did some of the easiest flips tricks down like a 7 stair gap at a skatepark and people are hyping the fuck out of him? Have you seen pros skate lately? This isn't it. Penny did a much better switch fs flip over a handrail down a gap twice as big like 25 years. It's all hype, he is extremely marketable and is a great addition to any team because of this but not really an amazing skater. Dudes working full time jobs at my local park would switch big flip that little gap and not even bother to film it.
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Those switch big Flip guys, can they skate Transition and do every single basic flip Trick down gaps while looking beautiful doing it? I doubt that those 28 year old red neck skaters have the same skating ability as kader. Prove me wrong.
Also i dont Think he hasnt done those tricks down the gap before.
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Kaders insta seems more like a weed dispensary commercial than skateboarders profile these days
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Kid has good style.
I like watching him skate. One of the few skaters i don't mind watching skate park footage of.
At this point I back him fucking with shoe sponsors. Why would you be loyal to nike, adidas or vans. I still don't understand this brand loyalty bullshit. For hardgoods i get it. Especially for smaller brands. But for billion dollar corps gtfo. Especially if you have no contract.
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It's pretty common that athletes who don't have a shoe contract wear any and everything until they do. I'm wearing whatever TF I want if I'm not getting paid.
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It's insulting to compare 'Twan to Kader, at one point he was on another level, whereas Kader is, well just watch the insta clip above this.
As for blaming a teen to make stupid decisions sponsorwise... C'mon.
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Tf are you guys watching the same insta Clips as me? Kader is so damn good. He skates lines upon lines what are you talking about? He is has a far bigger bag Bag of tricks than antwuan had. He just cant stomp and skate big stuff yet like antwuan whos like 6'4 did
I love how skaters Think at vans everyone in the company involved are family and friends and everyone skates during their Lunch break at the factory and the guys play games of skate and they have a miniramp in the bathroom.
In reality 90 percent never stood on a board and the Rest are some Business guys who skated in the 80s and only know shit about carving and skating slalom
Yo how can u let down those rich Business guys and Chinese workers you never met in your life? They wsnted to earn money from you how dare you to just leave
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Tf are you guys watching the same insta Clips as me? Kader is so damn good. He skates lines upon lines what are you talking about? He is has a far bigger bag Bag of tricks than antwuan had. He just cant stomp and skate big stuff yet like antwuan whos like 6'4 did
I love how skaters Think at vans everyone in the company involved are family and friends and everyone skates during their Lunch break at the factory and the guys play games of skate and they have a miniramp in the bathroom.
In reality 90 percent never stood on a board and the Rest are some Business guys who skated in the 80s and only know shit about carving and skating slalom
He good, but simmer the fuck down bro god damn
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Im not angry bro i Think its stupid to hate on a kid like that for trying things out.
I always hated those older skaters who would lil bro you and as long as its straight up skating be your friend cause they can learn from you but make fun of your mistakes and struggles of growing up.
Vans is so much bigger than Andrew reynolds. They are happy because more skaters feel like buying vans nower days but lets be real skaters arent the biggest selling market of nike,adidas or even vans. Losing a rider is making them lose sales but i Think they can stay in Business with minor losses no matter who is leaving.
With decks its different, but at the same time, if sombody doesnt want to ride for you anymore, after you kicked out guys right before having a video part in baker 4, i wouldnt feel sorry either. Those werent friendships than? So than its about sales and productivity. Even worse when you skate better than ever like cyril Jackson did.
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Why hate on him for insta throwaway park clips? You all know how this shit works.
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antuwans parts are timeless. don't think I've ever rewatched a kader part
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Kid has good style.
I like watching him skate. One of the few skaters i don't mind watching skate park footage of.
At this point I back him fucking with shoe sponsors. Why would you be loyal to nike, adidas or vans. I still don't understand this brand loyalty bullshit. For hardgoods i get it. Especially for smaller brands. But for billion dollar corps gtfo. Especially if you have no contract.
I saw him at courthouse a few times a couple months back and his style is amazing in person especially for the random switch nollie tricks he was just fucking around with it looked like. But I agree with everyone on here he has yet to really do anything pro worthy . He’s not really any different than most these LA park kids.
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Kid has good style.
I like watching him skate. One of the few skaters i don't mind watching skate park footage of.
At this point I back him fucking with shoe sponsors. Why would you be loyal to nike, adidas or vans. I still don't understand this brand loyalty bullshit. For hardgoods i get it. Especially for smaller brands. But for billion dollar corps gtfo. Especially if you have no contract.
I saw him at courthouse a few times a couple months back and his style is amazing in person especially for the random switch nollie tricks he was just fucking around with it looked like. But I agree with everyone on here he has yet to really do anything pro worthy . He’s not really any different than most these LA park kids.
i mean he invented the switch nollie, for starters
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Kid has good style.
I like watching him skate. One of the few skaters i don't mind watching skate park footage of.
At this point I back him fucking with shoe sponsors. Why would you be loyal to nike, adidas or vans. I still don't understand this brand loyalty bullshit. For hardgoods i get it. Especially for smaller brands. But for billion dollar corps gtfo. Especially if you have no contract.
I saw him at courthouse a few times a couple months back and his style is amazing in person especially for the random switch nollie tricks he was just fucking around with it looked like. But I agree with everyone on here he has yet to really do anything pro worthy . He’s not really any different than most these LA park kids.
i mean he invented the switch nollie, for starters
Back in my day we called it fakie
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Kid has good style.
I like watching him skate. One of the few skaters i don't mind watching skate park footage of.
At this point I back him fucking with shoe sponsors. Why would you be loyal to nike, adidas or vans. I still don't understand this brand loyalty bullshit. For hardgoods i get it. Especially for smaller brands. But for billion dollar corps gtfo. Especially if you have no contract.
I saw him at courthouse a few times a couple months back and his style is amazing in person especially for the random switch nollie tricks he was just fucking around with it looked like. But I agree with everyone on here he has yet to really do anything pro worthy . He’s not really any different than most these LA park kids.
i mean he invented the switch nollie, for starters
Back in my day we called it fakie
Don’t drink and slap
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hate to bump but...
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKiI5VWh9hL/
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Oh no Fat Bill got Kader right where he wants him.. In bed.
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I could care less about his shoe sponsor, but from the little I've seen on instagram does this dude just drive around a smoke weed while driving all the time and post it on instagram?
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I could care less about his shoe sponsor, but from the little I've seen on instagram does this dude just drive around a smoke weed while driving all the time and post it on instagram?
Sometimes he asks for money too.
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hate to bump but...
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKiI5VWh9hL/
Let me paint the scene for you:
It was drab Tuesday night in an Atlanta hotel room. Kader kicks of his Travis Scott dunks and lays back on the bed. After forgetting that he was looking for his lighter, he realizes that’s it’s in his hand. He sparks up a crooked, slobbery joint filled with Kader Kush. Despite all of the smoke and strong smell of the marijuana, Kader smells something stinky behind him; a scent similar to Asiago cheese. He feels a wiry ball of hair against the back of his neck, and realizes that it’s Bill’s unkempt beard. Bill whispers into his ear “I’m your new Daddy now, not Andrew.” After a steamy round or two of Bill being the bottom, the two clean up. Kader then posts his last remaining Baker boards on OfferUp, hoping to raise enough money to fund the next days half oz. He gently places a supreme sticker on a Hockey board near the wheel wells. The sticker is slightly crooked, but that’s okay, it’s the thought that counts. Kader reluctantly finishes gripping his new board, with the faint thought of Andrew Reynolds in the back of his head. A single tear rolls down his cheek, but he knows that his mind is made up. He quietly slips back into bed, in hopes not to wake his heavily snoring counterpart.
Seek help
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Probably just trolling bruvs. If not, wouldn't be too surprised. I feel like Kader is just using his notability, to play with everyone. Look at how he is from the am scramble just fucking with everyone.
Slowly not giving a fuck about a dudes sponsor unless it's board sponsor. Even then, I only buy the sizes I want as I have enough wall boards. So yeah.
I just care about video parts and whether I should scale down to eight and a quarter or try one of those big fatties from crail with the small WB
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As compelling as the photo is.
From the way Andrew was talking about him on his club. It doesn't seem like he's going anywhere.
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Anyone else find it strange that oversized William takes pictures of everyone in his room?
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Anyone else find it strange that oversized William takes pictures of everyone in his room?
Don't worry, it's just Wide Willy's "studio".
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Anyone else find it strange that oversized William takes pictures of everyone in his room?
No not really
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He should film his marquee part wearing a mix of K Swiss, Puma, Reebok, and vintage Airwalks. That'll throw 'em for a loop.
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hate to bump but...
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKiI5VWh9hL/
Run, Kader! He wants your Jell-o!
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Anyone else find it strange that oversized William takes pictures of everyone in his room?
Welcome to uncle bills naked touchy room, where you will wear no shirt and you will cry
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As compelling as the photo is.
From the way Andrew was talking about him on his club. It doesn't seem like he's going anywhere.
Drew was also talking about how great Terry was saying hes the best...
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As compelling as the photo is.
From the way Andrew was talking about him on his club. It doesn't seem like he's going anywhere.
Drew was also talking about how great Terry was saying hes the best...
Kader on Hockey more likely than Trump getting Impeached in the Senate, and that dude incited a coup.
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As compelling as the photo is.
From the way Andrew was talking about him on his club. It doesn't seem like he's going anywhere.
Lol good point
Drew was also talking about how great Terry was saying hes the best...
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bro Dollin and Nuge got to go!! not that they're not sick but recognize when your times up. make rooooooom
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lol this is like watching 2 exes on Facebook vagueposting about each other
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bro Dollin and Nuge got to go!! not that they're not sick but recognize when your times up. make rooooooom
Theo has had a good run. Let him go too
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Don't worry, it's just Wide Willy's "studio".
Wide Willy...
Killed me w/ that one, Georgie.
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bro Dollin and Nuge got to go!! not that they're not sick but recognize when your times up. make rooooooom
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bro Dollin and Nuge got to go!! not that they're not sick but recognize when your times up. make rooooooom
Theo has had a good run. Let him go too
Output lacking or otherwise, I still don’t understand why some of these guys “gotta go.”
If there’s room in budget for a legacy rider or five, where’s the harm? There’s more than enough nostalgia to go around these days, and if the board sales supplement their otherwise bottom bracket pay scale for duties like editor/artist/team manager, then great!
From the look of that stacked/packed team roster, it doesn’t appear that Baker isn’t promoting newer dudes.
What the fuck do I know, though?
Shalomage.
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Tbh Dollin and Theo were fucking sick on baker4
Nuge can go, what has he done after bombing that one hill?
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Tbh Dollin and Theo were fucking sick on baker4
Nuge can go, what has he done after bombing that one hill?
Yeah seriously? Nuge?
The others I get... But Nuge?
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So Zach Allen is the only am? Cupboard is bare.
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Probably just trolling bruvs. If not, wouldn't be too surprised. I feel like Kader is just using his notability, to play with everyone. Look at how he is from the am scramble just fucking with everyone.
Slowly not giving a fuck about a dudes sponsor unless it's board sponsor. Even then, I only buy the sizes I want as I have enough wall boards. So yeah.
I just care about video parts and whether I should scale down to eight and a quarter or try one of those big fatties from crail with the small WB
hi there pal!
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i remember hearing nuge was only still pro bc of volume 4 or something years agoq. but isnt that shit no longer even being done through bakerboys/ at all? i fucks with nuge yall know me, but theres no way kids give a single shit about him and want his boards. i honestly wonder whats keeping him at this point. what actually happening with donta? too into boxing for reynolds or some shit
free max b
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Nuge still being on is what made them kicking off Dee weird for me. One produces the other one doesn’t yet the one producing gets kicked off???
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Well if Baker 4 footage is any indication, Nuge is at least on the sessions. So maybe he shows up and that's why he's still on?
Dee was also posting some pretty wild shit before he got dropped.
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Dee was also posting some pretty wild shit before he got dropped.
what was he posting?
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Well if Baker 4 footage is any indication, Nuge is at least on the sessions. So maybe he shows up and that's why he's still on?
Dee was also posting some pretty wild shit before he got dropped.
Board brands aren't a meritocracy. Skateboarding in general isn't. Nuge has been around a while and is good friends with a lot of the people on the brand. Dee was a relatively new kid, and I have no idea how close guys like he and Cyril were to the rest of the team. I think as long as you don't go full pile like Spanky and Braydon did, you can keep your spot if you are putting in effort. Can even get it back if you work hard again (see Spanky).
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Dee was also posting some pretty wild shit before he got dropped.
what was he posting?
I dunno I checked his insta and it looks like he pulled it down so I don't really wanna air him out. When you have some cash you can buy things that are real easy to flip for more cash but then there's a certain danger involved in that.
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Dee was also posting some pretty wild shit before he got dropped.
what was he posting?
Commercial real estate, got it
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Dee was also posting some pretty wild shit before he got dropped.
what was he posting?
He got dropped because of his contract with HGTV on flipping skater houses?
"Shit on the walls? Well we just add more brown to the colors and turn the walls into a tasteful decoupage."
"Smell of cheap beer and piss? We'll add a cat to the home which you can blame all the smells on."
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imma go out on a not so crazy limb and say that if a team has to fire 1 person, and two are on the chopping block, the boss is going to go with the guy he likes more.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CFi8lyehIrc/?igshid=qx5esztssb3u
fuck done winn
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fuck done winn
Forgot about that.
What a complete moron
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I dunno, I think im biased as fuck, cause i love nuge, but the same question remains, who would want to buy a dee board?
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I dunno, I think im biased as fuck, cause i love nuge, but the same question remains, who would want to buy a dee board?
Could you not ask the same question about Nuge?
Showing my age here... But I'd never buy anything associated with him after seeing that insta highway bottle smashing
Not that I ever would
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i remember hearing nuge was only still pro bc of volume 4 or something years agoq. but isnt that shit no longer even being done through bakerboys/ at all? i fucks with nuge yall know me, but theres no way kids give a single shit about him and want his boards. i honestly wonder whats keeping him at this point. what actually happening with donta? too into boxing for reynolds or some shit
free max b
some say it's because he saved the whole team from falling off a cliff when their van brakes failed.
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I dunno, I think im biased as fuck, cause i love nuge, but the same question remains, who would want to buy a dee board?
Could you not ask the same question about Nuge?
Showing my age here... But I'd never buy anything associated with him after seeing that insta highway bottle smashing
Not that I ever would
yeah, of course, that question was already asked regarding nuge.
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fuck done winn
HECKRIDE
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fuck done winn
What a fucking dork.
I wanted to like him when they put him on baker 1000 years ago but he seems to just be a turd in a rock and roll costume. Let's be real, the only thing of note he's ever done is ollie el toro and that was 20 years ago. I remember watching his nine club to learn if I was missing something and that was pretty much all they had to cover.
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Post is gone 8)
bill and sage finally gassed him up over a very soggy 4 gram blunt to call reynolds and quit baker from ATL over the phone. thankyoubaker clip coming soon, maybe a poorly written unpunctuated all caps word salad about leaving baker and how reynolds is cool for giving him bloards but he aint a kid no mo so he gotta keep on keepin on.
also idk if it was mentioned here, im sure it was, but when elijah quit chocolate he made a post thanking mike and rickk. which is cool, that shit was literally the same paragraph dill/ave wrote/posted when they quit workshop word for word, except he switched out "Hill and Carter" for Mike and Rick. and ever since then hes been doing everything possible to look like a chunky dylan from down the block so theres that. the kid can LARP.
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I wanted to like him when they put him on baker 1000 years ago but he seems to just be a turd in a rock and roll costume. Let's be real, the only thing of note he's ever done is ollie el toro and that was 20 years ago. I remember watching his nine club to learn if I was missing something and that was pretty much all they had to cover.
I'll always remember him from this Thrasher article (or maybe it was Transworld) back in the day where he did the supposed "biggest kickflip" ever at that time. It was off of a white loading dock and over a flat gap (grass? dirt?) to street I believe. Maybe in Dekline's?
But thats alll I ever heard from him.. and I bet that gap has been switch tre'd by now.
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also idk if it was mentioned here, im sure it was, but when elijah quit chocolate he made a post thanking mike and rickk. which is cool, that shit was literally the same paragraph dill/ave wrote/posted when they quit workshop word for word, except he switched out "Hill and Carter" for Mike and Rick. and ever since then hes been doing everything possible to look like a chunky dylan from down the block so theres that. the kid can LARP.
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i remember hearing nuge was only still pro bc of volume 4 or something years agoq. but isnt that shit no longer even being done through bakerboys/ at all? i fucks with nuge yall know me, but theres no way kids give a single shit about him and want his boards. i honestly wonder whats keeping him at this point. what actually happening with donta? too into boxing for reynolds or some shit
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some say it's because he saved the whole team from falling off a cliff when their van brakes failed.
Did anyone buy those Vol4 jeans. I liked the look and US made.
That being said I always liked the Nuge and it seems like he does a lot of behind the scenes stuff.
but bottle smashing is lame, I mean sure 14 year old me thought it was cool... 14 year old me also was a fucking idiot
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also idk if it was mentioned here, im sure it was, but when elijah quit chocolate he made a post thanking mike and rickk. which is cool, that shit was literally the same paragraph dill/ave wrote/posted when they quit workshop word for word, except he switched out "Hill and Carter" for Mike and Rick. and ever since then hes been doing everything possible to look like a chunky dylan from down the block so theres that. the kid can LARP.
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The irony
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Remember that thrasher day in the life with Kader where he's just playing Fortnite and being a goofy kid? That was, like, a year ago.
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also idk if it was mentioned here, im sure it was, but when elijah quit chocolate he made a post thanking mike and rickk. which is cool, that shit was literally the same paragraph dill/ave wrote/posted when they quit workshop word for word, except he switched out "Hill and Carter" for Mike and Rick. and ever since then hes been doing everything possible to look like a chunky dylan from down the block so theres that. the kid can LARP.
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The irony
Goddamn it panettone your slap presence is unlikable.
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also idk if it was mentioned here, im sure it was, but when elijah quit chocolate he made a post thanking mike and rickk. which is cool, that shit was literally the same paragraph dill/ave wrote/posted when they quit workshop word for word, except he switched out "Hill and Carter" for Mike and Rick. and ever since then hes been doing everything possible to look like a chunky dylan from down the block so theres that. the kid can LARP.
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The irony
Goddamn it panettone your slap presence is unlikable.
Send me 50 euro and I will leave
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i remember hearing nuge was only still pro bc of volume 4 or something years agoq. but isnt that shit no longer even being done through bakerboys/ at all? i fucks with nuge yall know me, but theres no way kids give a single shit about him and want his boards. i honestly wonder whats keeping him at this point. what actually happening with donta? too into boxing for reynolds or some shit
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some say it's because he saved the whole team from falling off a cliff when their van brakes failed.
That wasn't the Baker team it was just a random Skate Rock motley but I'm sure that bought lots of goodwill. We could be living in a world without GT right now.
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Nuge still being on is what made them kicking off Dee weird for me. One produces the other one doesn’t yet the one producing gets kicked off???
I don't think anyone ever gave a fuck about Dee though. He was a bit of a Zach Allen where he never seemed to be quite good enough or cool enough or well liked by the fans to warrant a Baker spot. Slap is apparently very on the fence about Nuge but dude has been around forever and has a lot of goodwill within the industry.
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i remember hearing nuge was only still pro bc of volume 4 or something years agoq. but isnt that shit no longer even being done through bakerboys/ at all? i fucks with nuge yall know me, but theres no way kids give a single shit about him and want his boards. i honestly wonder whats keeping him at this point. what actually happening with donta? too into boxing for reynolds or some shit
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Pretty sure he's been off for years, since not that long after he had that part in that Baker promo. Not sure what the deal was there, I thought Donta's part in that was really sick and I thought he was a good addition to the team.
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I suspect that, in this case, it doesn't mean much for someone like Nuge to be "on Baker". Like there's no contract, no obligation for footage or appear at a demo. It's probably mostly a gesture of goodwill towards one of the original Baker Boys that consists of printing a yearly run of 500 boards that say "NUGE" on them
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I suspect that, in this case, it doesn't mean much for someone like Nuge to be "on Baker". Like there's no contract, no obligation for footage or appear at a demo. It's probably mostly a gesture of goodwill towards one of the original Baker Boys that consists of printing a yearly run of 500 boards that say "NUGE" on them
Just looked through Bakers 2020 catalogs and Nuge had a pro board for each season. Seemed to get the majority of models than the other legacy pros like Dollin or Steamer.
I really never had a big interest in Nuge but judging from his parts and insta he seems like he's in a good place in his life with a good lady by his side. If he can kick it with Baker and Reynolds is still cool with him I see no problem with him having a spot on the team. Probably does more behind the scenes day to day stuff for Baker for all we know.
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I suspect that, in this case, it doesn't mean much for someone like Nuge to be "on Baker". Like there's no contract, no obligation for footage or appear at a demo. It's probably mostly a gesture of goodwill towards one of the original Baker Boys that consists of printing a yearly run of 500 boards that say "NUGE" on them
Just looked through Bakers 2020 catalogs and Nuge had a pro board for each season. Seemed to get the majority of models than the other legacy pros like Dollin or Steamer.
I really never had a big interest in Nuge but judging from his parts and insta he seems like he's in a good place in his life with a good lady by his side. If he can kick it with Baker and Reynolds is still cool with him I see no problem with him having a spot on the team. Probably does more behind the scenes day to day stuff for Baker for all we know.
Yeah, I also kind of think that these people have “day jobs” in their companies, like how Gerwer works in the DLX office. This is probably some part of that arrangement
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I suspect that, in this case, it doesn't mean much for someone like Nuge to be "on Baker". Like there's no contract, no obligation for footage or appear at a demo. It's probably mostly a gesture of goodwill towards one of the original Baker Boys that consists of printing a yearly run of 500 boards that say "NUGE" on them
Just looked through Bakers 2020 catalogs and Nuge had a pro board for each season. Seemed to get the majority of models than the other legacy pros like Dollin or Steamer.
I really never had a big interest in Nuge but judging from his parts and insta he seems like he's in a good place in his life with a good lady by his side. If he can kick it with Baker and Reynolds is still cool with him I see no problem with him having a spot on the team. Probably does more behind the scenes day to day stuff for Baker for all we know.
Yeah, I also kind of think that these people have “day jobs” in their companies, like how Gerwer works in the DLX office. This is probably some part of that arrangement
I wouldn't be surprised if Nuge didn't get a base pay, but instead was working hourly doing sales and The Boss supplements his pay with board residuals.
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I suspect that, in this case, it doesn't mean much for someone like Nuge to be "on Baker". Like there's no contract, no obligation for footage or appear at a demo. It's probably mostly a gesture of goodwill towards one of the original Baker Boys that consists of printing a yearly run of 500 boards that say "NUGE" on them
Just looked through Bakers 2020 catalogs and Nuge had a pro board for each season. Seemed to get the majority of models than the other legacy pros like Dollin or Steamer.
I really never had a big interest in Nuge but judging from his parts and insta he seems like he's in a good place in his life with a good lady by his side. If he can kick it with Baker and Reynolds is still cool with him I see no problem with him having a spot on the team. Probably does more behind the scenes day to day stuff for Baker for all we know.
Yeah, I also kind of think that these people have “day jobs” in their companies, like how Gerwer works in the DLX office. This is probably some part of that arrangement
I wouldn't be surprised if Nuge didn't get a base pay, but instead was working hourly doing sales and The Boss supplements his pay with board residuals.
Sounds like a reasonable concept to keep legends afloat in the industry.
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you think he doesn't get paid to work? thats ridiculous
nuge & fat theo > the rest of baker
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I wanted to like him when they put him on baker 1000 years ago but he seems to just be a turd in a rock and roll costume. Let's be real, the only thing of note he's ever done is ollie el toro and that was 20 years ago. I remember watching his nine club to learn if I was missing something and that was pretty much all they had to cover.
I'll always remember him from this Thrasher article (or maybe it was Transworld) back in the day where he did the supposed "biggest kickflip" ever at that time. It was off of a white loading dock and over a flat gap (grass? dirt?) to street I believe. Maybe in Dekline's?
But thats alll I ever heard from him.. and I bet that gap has been switch tre'd by now.
sorryi'm little late to the party here. I remember footage of it......could it have been in a very late 411? i guess in duffs shoes at the time and i am pretty sure it was the same gap that auby taylor switch heelflipped as his ender (?) in his "auby's world" part!
Now i have a reason to watch that part again.....will report back if i find the nuge part too. Maybe someone can find that "Biggest Kickflip" article.
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Nuge is probably one of those dudes that constantly moves a certain number of boards, they make a certain amount they sell cuz of his following, he gets board royalties and it doesn't really cost the company much to have him around. I'm guess no one gave a fuck about Dee boards and mixed with what looked like him just being stoned all the time and not getting any coverage they let him go. I think companies just can't have that good dude that produces videos parts anymore, you have to be doing other things, and getting instagram coverage, when I heard company dudes talking it almost seems like instagram clips are way more important, the videos are just a legacy thing
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This one?
https://youtu.be/P7dLGrIipEw
damn I remember that. Remember Auby Taylors shock after the switch heel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf1PRL63Sic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf1PRL63Sic)
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Nuge is probably one of those dudes that constantly moves a certain number of boards, they make a certain amount they sell cuz of his following, he gets board royalties and it doesn't really cost the company much to have him around. I'm guess no one gave a fuck about Dee boards and mixed with what looked like him just being stoned all the time and not getting any coverage they let him go. I think companies just can't have that good dude that produces videos parts anymore, you have to be doing other things, and getting instagram coverage, when I heard company dudes talking it almost seems like instagram clips are way more important, the videos are just a legacy thing
This seems like skateboarding as a professional is completely changing. Not saying for better or worse but pros used to sell boards for partying. “Yo he smokes mad weed and still can switch tre a set” I always viewed pro skateboarding as rock n roll but not so much anymore.
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That Nuge kickflip you guys are talking about is at the end of the friends montage section in TWS' Let's Do This. It wasn't from any Nuge part, as far as I'm aware.
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Nuge is probably one of those dudes that constantly moves a certain number of boards, they make a certain amount they sell cuz of his following, he gets board royalties and it doesn't really cost the company much to have him around. I'm guess no one gave a fuck about Dee boards and mixed with what looked like him just being stoned all the time and not getting any coverage they let him go. I think companies just can't have that good dude that produces videos parts anymore, you have to be doing other things, and getting instagram coverage, when I heard company dudes talking it almost seems like instagram clips are way more important, the videos are just a legacy thing
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damn I remember that. Remember Auby Taylors shock after the switch heel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf1PRL63Sic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf1PRL63Sic)
EXACTLY!
just found it on youtube too and watched auby's part again- off topic but that part would be fucked up to drop today to me!
I been looking for nuge's kickflip in the 411 vids but didn't ge lucky, just typed in "nuge kickflip" and there it was!
it is the same gap though it seems and that shit was biiig....the shock after auby's switch heel, man!
So did anything else go down that gap since auby?
Props for all the detective work to everybody contributing- i need to go pal to finally gnar you guys!
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auby taylor is so goddamn cool. 100% doing his own thing these days
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Nuge is probably one of those dudes that constantly moves a certain number of boards, they make a certain amount they sell cuz of his following, he gets board royalties and it doesn't really cost the company much to have him around. I'm guess no one gave a fuck about Dee boards and mixed with what looked like him just being stoned all the time and not getting any coverage they let him go. I think companies just can't have that good dude that produces videos parts anymore, you have to be doing other things, and getting instagram coverage, when I heard company dudes talking it almost seems like instagram clips are way more important, the videos are just a legacy thing
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Oh fuck I forgot. Long live heckride!!! I just drank a kombucha bc my hernia doesn’t let me have alcohol. Heckride enough?
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Nuge is probably one of those dudes that constantly moves a certain number of boards, they make a certain amount they sell cuz of his following, he gets board royalties and it doesn't really cost the company much to have him around. I'm guess no one gave a fuck about Dee boards and mixed with what looked like him just being stoned all the time and not getting any coverage they let him go. I think companies just can't have that good dude that produces videos parts anymore, you have to be doing other things, and getting instagram coverage, when I heard company dudes talking it almost seems like instagram clips are way more important, the videos are just a legacy thing
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I drank some semi sweet tea last night before bed. I also heckride!
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Nuge is probably one of those dudes that constantly moves a certain number of boards, they make a certain amount they sell cuz of his following, he gets board royalties and it doesn't really cost the company much to have him around. I'm guess no one gave a fuck about Dee boards and mixed with what looked like him just being stoned all the time and not getting any coverage they let him go. I think companies just can't have that good dude that produces videos parts anymore, you have to be doing other things, and getting instagram coverage, when I heard company dudes talking it almost seems like instagram clips are way more important, the videos are just a legacy thing
skateboarding of hellride, on heckride
I drank some semi sweet tea last night before bed. I also heckride!
I’ve caught a buzz off Kombucha before. Because it is fermented it has a small amount of alcohol. Gonna get mildly buzzed up tonight!
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Nuge is probably one of those dudes that constantly moves a certain number of boards, they make a certain amount they sell cuz of his following, he gets board royalties and it doesn't really cost the company much to have him around. I'm guess no one gave a fuck about Dee boards and mixed with what looked like him just being stoned all the time and not getting any coverage they let him go. I think companies just can't have that good dude that produces videos parts anymore, you have to be doing other things, and getting instagram coverage, when I heard company dudes talking it almost seems like instagram clips are way more important, the videos are just a legacy thing
so Nuge has a following that buys boards regularly, but SZA, Lenoce, Dee and Cyril do not?
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In what world does nuge have a real serious following? Like I said I fucks wit the nuge, but let’s be real here fellas. Worked in a shop on and off for almost a decade, and I’d assume the amount of nuge boards I’ve gripped is less than baca boards. In jersey atleast, maybe nuge has a following in the Midwest I don’t know about. But that ain’t it.
I’m not on Ig, is kader wearing dunks or shelltoes today?
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damn I remember that. Remember Auby Taylors shock after the switch heel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf1PRL63Sic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf1PRL63Sic)
EXACTLY!
just found it on youtube too and watched auby's part again- off topic but that part would be fucked up to drop today to me!
I been looking for nuge's kickflip in the 411 vids but didn't ge lucky, just typed in "nuge kickflip" and there it was!
it is the same gap though it seems and that shit was biiig....the shock after auby's switch heel, man!
So did anything else go down that gap since auby?
Props for all the detective work to everybody contributing- i need to go pal to finally gnar you guys!
Damn havent been on this thread in a few days but you guys found it all! Thanks SLAP.
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i remember hearing nuge was only still pro bc of volume 4 or something years agoq. but isnt that shit no longer even being done through bakerboys/ at all? i fucks with nuge yall know me, but theres no way kids give a single shit about him and want his boards. i honestly wonder whats keeping him at this point. what actually happening with donta? too into boxing for reynolds or some shit
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Pretty sure he's been off for years, since not that long after he had that part in that Baker promo. Not sure what the deal was there, I thought Donta's part in that was really sick and I thought he was a good addition to the team.
I wondered the same thing recently because I also fuck with Donta. I went back and watched the Baker Am video with Donta, Kader and Zach Allen. Donta didn't really have that much footage in it, certainly not half as much as the other two. Looked at his instagram, and it's a hell of a lot of skating the same really small scale park. Watched the Jenkem interview with him where he's doing boxing, skating, modelling, etc....
You get what I'm saying: I reckon he just wasn't producing enough quality footage and wasn't seen to be concentrating on his skateboarding enough to warrant a Baker sponsorship. Seems a bit of a waste, because he's not likely to go as far with his boxing as he could have gone with Baker if he focused, but he's modelling with some big companies and seems to be doing well with that. I wish him all the best.
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Nuge is probably one of those dudes that constantly moves a certain number of boards, they make a certain amount they sell cuz of his following, he gets board royalties and it doesn't really cost the company much to have him around. I'm guess no one gave a fuck about Dee boards and mixed with what looked like him just being stoned all the time and not getting any coverage they let him go. I think companies just can't have that good dude that produces videos parts anymore, you have to be doing other things, and getting instagram coverage, when I heard company dudes talking it almost seems like instagram clips are way more important, the videos are just a legacy thing
so Nuge has a following that buys boards regularly, but SZA, Lenoce, Dee and Cyril do not?
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I mean SZA & Lenoce is probably a different kettle of fish tbh. However, for the more recent guys like Dee and Cyril, I think it's the fact that they are in their prime, and if you're comparing prime pro board sales with that of an older dude who spends most of his time working behind the scenes or at supreme like previously stated then that's an issue.
Realistically if their board sales aren't touching within the region of Kader, Tyson, T-funk & Rowan then hell yeah it's a problem. But honestly I think the main problem is that Dee and Cyril are just a product of Baker's 'lull' period before the slight shift of rebranding.
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Pro boards are a bit different now. I buy based on dimensions. Graphic and the name on the board come next in order of importance. Now, the pro’s name is more likely to be under the griptape anyway, in the case of Baker and Hockey.
Also, Kader’s Ollie over the unsuspecting citizen in that Tristan Warren vid was pretty awesome.
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i remember hearing nuge was only still pro bc of volume 4 or something years agoq. but isnt that shit no longer even being done through bakerboys/ at all? i fucks with nuge yall know me, but theres no way kids give a single shit about him and want his boards. i honestly wonder whats keeping him at this point. what actually happening with donta? too into boxing for reynolds or some shit
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Pretty sure he's been off for years, since not that long after he had that part in that Baker promo. Not sure what the deal was there, I thought Donta's part in that was really sick and I thought he was a good addition to the team.
I wondered the same thing recently because I also fuck with Donta. I went back and watched the Baker Am video with Donta, Kader and Zach Allen. Donta didn't really have that much footage in it, certainly not half as much as the other two. Looked at his instagram, and it's a hell of a lot of skating the same really small scale park. Watched the Jenkem interview with him where he's doing boxing, skating, modelling, etc....
You get what I'm saying: I reckon he just wasn't producing enough quality footage and wasn't seen to be concentrating on his skateboarding enough to warrant a Baker sponsorship. Seems a bit of a waste, because he's not likely to go as far with his boxing as he could have gone with Baker if he focused, but he's modelling with some big companies and seems to be doing well with that. I wish him all the best.
Boxing and modeling is a hell of a combo. Better be REALLY good at the first one or the second one won’t last.
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i remember hearing nuge was only still pro bc of volume 4 or something years agoq. but isnt that shit no longer even being done through bakerboys/ at all? i fucks with nuge yall know me, but theres no way kids give a single shit about him and want his boards. i honestly wonder whats keeping him at this point. what actually happening with donta? too into boxing for reynolds or some shit
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Pretty sure he's been off for years, since not that long after he had that part in that Baker promo. Not sure what the deal was there, I thought Donta's part in that was really sick and I thought he was a good addition to the team.
I wondered the same thing recently because I also fuck with Donta. I went back and watched the Baker Am video with Donta, Kader and Zach Allen. Donta didn't really have that much footage in it, certainly not half as much as the other two. Looked at his instagram, and it's a hell of a lot of skating the same really small scale park. Watched the Jenkem interview with him where he's doing boxing, skating, modelling, etc....
You get what I'm saying: I reckon he just wasn't producing enough quality footage and wasn't seen to be concentrating on his skateboarding enough to warrant a Baker sponsorship. Seems a bit of a waste, because he's not likely to go as far with his boxing as he could have gone with Baker if he focused, but he's modelling with some big companies and seems to be doing well with that. I wish him all the best.
True but if we're talking the smart decision he should go all in on modeling, really. It's just as flimsy of a career as skating and boxing but easy money and no lifelong injuries or pain to deal with
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i remember hearing nuge was only still pro bc of volume 4 or something years agoq. but isnt that shit no longer even being done through bakerboys/ at all? i fucks with nuge yall know me, but theres no way kids give a single shit about him and want his boards. i honestly wonder whats keeping him at this point. what actually happening with donta? too into boxing for reynolds or some shit
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Pretty sure he's been off for years, since not that long after he had that part in that Baker promo. Not sure what the deal was there, I thought Donta's part in that was really sick and I thought he was a good addition to the team.
I wondered the same thing recently because I also fuck with Donta. I went back and watched the Baker Am video with Donta, Kader and Zach Allen. Donta didn't really have that much footage in it, certainly not half as much as the other two. Looked at his instagram, and it's a hell of a lot of skating the same really small scale park. Watched the Jenkem interview with him where he's doing boxing, skating, modelling, etc....
You get what I'm saying: I reckon he just wasn't producing enough quality footage and wasn't seen to be concentrating on his skateboarding enough to warrant a Baker sponsorship. Seems a bit of a waste, because he's not likely to go as far with his boxing as he could have gone with Baker if he focused, but he's modelling with some big companies and seems to be doing well with that. I wish him all the best.
Boxing and modeling is a hell of a combo. Better be REALLY good at the first one or the second one won’t last.
Hahahaha, very good. I never considered that, tbh.
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i remember hearing nuge was only still pro bc of volume 4 or something years agoq. but isnt that shit no longer even being done through bakerboys/ at all? i fucks with nuge yall know me, but theres no way kids give a single shit about him and want his boards. i honestly wonder whats keeping him at this point. what actually happening with donta? too into boxing for reynolds or some shit
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Pretty sure he's been off for years, since not that long after he had that part in that Baker promo. Not sure what the deal was there, I thought Donta's part in that was really sick and I thought he was a good addition to the team.
I wondered the same thing recently because I also fuck with Donta. I went back and watched the Baker Am video with Donta, Kader and Zach Allen. Donta didn't really have that much footage in it, certainly not half as much as the other two. Looked at his instagram, and it's a hell of a lot of skating the same really small scale park. Watched the Jenkem interview with him where he's doing boxing, skating, modelling, etc....
You get what I'm saying: I reckon he just wasn't producing enough quality footage and wasn't seen to be concentrating on his skateboarding enough to warrant a Baker sponsorship. Seems a bit of a waste, because he's not likely to go as far with his boxing as he could have gone with Baker if he focused, but he's modelling with some big companies and seems to be doing well with that. I wish him all the best.
True but if we're talking the smart decision he should go all in on modeling, really. It's just as flimsy of a career as skating and boxing but easy money and no lifelong injuries or pain to deal with
I guess he'd want to consider his merit in each field.
*cue baseball movie music*
Now I don't know nothing about modelling, but I imagine there's only so "good" you can get at it. With skateboarding, he is/was offering something fairly unique, and with exactly the right team to bring that out of someone. It seems to me that modelling is the safe and easy choice, for sure, but skateboarding is/was a gamble that could have brought greater opportunities (or way worse ones). It depends on what you put into it.
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Yo anyone else see Kader in adidas in the latest supreme in atlanta post? LOL
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Yo anyone else see Kader in adidas in the latest supreme in atlanta post? LOL
Yeah what the fuck hahah it’d be funny if this dude is just burning every bridge before he’s 20.
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I truly hope he hops to Cariuma just to fuck with SLAP. C'mon Kader, please.
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I truly hope he hops to Cariuma just to fuck with SLAP. C'mon Kader, please.
would be funny, but I highly doubt it
I think hes trying to fit into a new Antwuan vibe or some shit skating-wise. Crazy switch and nollie without looking like hes really trying. Nonetheless hes definitely the "lite" version since hes just smoking albeit a lot and not getting drunk as fuck fighting people in public.
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I truly hope he hops to Cariuma just to fuck with SLAP. C'mon Kader, please.
would be funny, but I highly doubt it
I think hes trying to fit into a new Antwuan vibe or some shit skating-wise. Crazy switch and nollie without looking like hes really trying. Nonetheless hes definitely the "lite" version since hes just smoking albeit a lot and not getting drunk as fuck fighting people in public.
I don't think it's him trying to fit into any sort of vibe. It's more like you pigeonholing him into that role because he happens to be on Antwuans previous sponsor.
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Fucking pick something kid. Ah to be a newbie weed smoker again, getting high making stupid decisions. Kader is just doing it on a grand scale with the whole world watching
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I truly hope he hops to Cariuma just to fuck with SLAP. C'mon Kader, please.
would be funny, but I highly doubt it
I think hes trying to fit into a new Antwuan vibe or some shit skating-wise. Crazy switch and nollie without looking like hes really trying. Nonetheless hes definitely the "lite" version since hes just smoking albeit a lot and not getting drunk as fuck fighting people in public.
I don't get Antwuan vibes. Antwuan had ridiculous style and power in all of his footage. It's a damn shame he wasted it. Very few people just have it, Twuan did.
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I truly hope he hops to Cariuma just to fuck with SLAP. C'mon Kader, please.
would be funny, but I highly doubt it
I think hes trying to fit into a new Antwuan vibe or some shit skating-wise. Crazy switch and nollie without looking like hes really trying. Nonetheless hes definitely the "lite" version since hes just smoking albeit a lot and not getting drunk as fuck fighting people in public.
I don't think it's him trying to fit into any sort of vibe. It's more like you pigeonholing him into that role because he happens to be on Antwuans previous sponsor.
Im not tryna pigeonhole him anywhere lmao, im just saying he seems to be skating a lot of shit Antwuan would skate especially in his baker 3 part (stairs, ledges, rails) and considering Kaders stepping away from tranny and big ass boards it would be more obvious to see that. Hes obviously stepping away from that little kid dickies shaved head shit too HIGHkey
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I truly hope he hops to Cariuma just to fuck with SLAP. C'mon Kader, please.
would be funny, but I highly doubt it
I think hes trying to fit into a new Antwuan vibe or some shit skating-wise. Crazy switch and nollie without looking like hes really trying. Nonetheless hes definitely the "lite" version since hes just smoking albeit a lot and not getting drunk as fuck fighting people in public.
I don't think it's him trying to fit into any sort of vibe. It's more like you pigeonholing him into that role because he happens to be on Antwuans previous sponsor.
Im not tryna pigeonhole him anywhere lmao, im just saying he seems to be skating a lot of shit Antwuan would skate especially in his baker 3 part (stairs, ledges, rails) and considering Kaders stepping away from tranny and big ass boards it would be more obvious to see that. Hes obviously stepping away from that little kid dickies shaved head shit too HIGHkey
They skate nothing alike. And “Stepping away from tranny”? Just shut up dude you sound like an idiot.
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I truly hope he hops to Cariuma just to fuck with SLAP. C'mon Kader, please.
would be funny, but I highly doubt it
I think hes trying to fit into a new Antwuan vibe or some shit skating-wise. Crazy switch and nollie without looking like hes really trying. Nonetheless hes definitely the "lite" version since hes just smoking albeit a lot and not getting drunk as fuck fighting people in public.
I don't think it's him trying to fit into any sort of vibe. It's more like you pigeonholing him into that role because he happens to be on Antwuans previous sponsor.
Im not tryna pigeonhole him anywhere lmao, im just saying he seems to be skating a lot of shit Antwuan would skate especially in his baker 3 part (stairs, ledges, rails) and considering Kaders stepping away from tranny and big ass boards it would be more obvious to see that. Hes obviously stepping away from that little kid dickies shaved head shit too HIGHkey
They skate nothing alike. And “Stepping away from tranny”? Just shut up dude you sound like an idiot.
you sound like a fucking idiot imo. anyone can see hes on his street shit now
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I truly hope he hops to Cariuma just to fuck with SLAP. C'mon Kader, please.
would be funny, but I highly doubt it
I think hes trying to fit into a new Antwuan vibe or some shit skating-wise. Crazy switch and nollie without looking like hes really trying. Nonetheless hes definitely the "lite" version since hes just smoking albeit a lot and not getting drunk as fuck fighting people in public.
I don't think it's him trying to fit into any sort of vibe. It's more like you pigeonholing him into that role because he happens to be on Antwuans previous sponsor.
Im not tryna pigeonhole him anywhere lmao, im just saying he seems to be skating a lot of shit Antwuan would skate especially in his baker 3 part (stairs, ledges, rails) and considering Kaders stepping away from tranny and big ass boards it would be more obvious to see that. Hes obviously stepping away from that little kid dickies shaved head shit too HIGHkey
They skate nothing alike. And “Stepping away from tranny”? Just shut up dude you sound like an idiot.
go learn nosegrinds kid fs ones are very easy took me a few minutes to learn basically eat shit
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I truly hope he hops to Cariuma just to fuck with SLAP. C'mon Kader, please.
would be funny, but I highly doubt it
I think hes trying to fit into a new Antwuan vibe or some shit skating-wise. Crazy switch and nollie without looking like hes really trying. Nonetheless hes definitely the "lite" version since hes just smoking albeit a lot and not getting drunk as fuck fighting people in public.
I don't think it's him trying to fit into any sort of vibe. It's more like you pigeonholing him into that role because he happens to be on Antwuans previous sponsor.
Im not tryna pigeonhole him anywhere lmao, im just saying he seems to be skating a lot of shit Antwuan would skate especially in his baker 3 part (stairs, ledges, rails) and considering Kaders stepping away from tranny and big ass boards it would be more obvious to see that. Hes obviously stepping away from that little kid dickies shaved head shit too HIGHkey
the reasoning of “he’s skating stairs, ledges and rails” is so funny. those are pretty much every street obstacle but dirt gaps and manny pads. you got caught in some bullshit, accept it and move forward. quit the justification
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Fucking pick something kid. Ah to be a newbie weed smoker again, getting high making stupid decisions. Kader is just doing it on a grand scale with the whole world watching
weed = his tool
skate industry = his canvas
did i get it right?
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Dunks>shell toes.
Shell toes last longer. Flick better.
If their fit was better i put them over dunks.
Too bad adidas shell toes fit is so random.
But i love dunks as well.
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Shell toes last longer. Flick better.
If their fit was better i put them over dunks.
Too bad adidas shell toes fit is so random.
But i love dunks as well.
I’d put money on this kid not giving a shit how long the shoe lasts. He’s getting product like crazy it seems.
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Dunks=shell toes.
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Should’ve stuck with those half cabs
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Kader rips and he's growing into having a great style too. He can do what he wants, let him deal with the consequences of burning bridges when/if they ever come. PERSONALLY I thought he pulled off half cabs pretty well, wish he stayed in those. But w/e not losing sleep over it.
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This is still funny. Dudes on his Rodney Torres shit
Free max b
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Looks way better in the Adidas. Glad he’s doing his own thing and not feeling beholden to the shoe brands.
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I truly hope he hops to Cariuma just to fuck with SLAP. C'mon Kader, please.
would be funny, but I highly doubt it
I think hes trying to fit into a new Antwuan vibe or some shit skating-wise. Crazy switch and nollie without looking like hes really trying. Nonetheless hes definitely the "lite" version since hes just smoking albeit a lot and not getting drunk as fuck fighting people in public.
I don't think it's him trying to fit into any sort of vibe. It's more like you pigeonholing him into that role because he happens to be on Antwuans previous sponsor.
Im not tryna pigeonhole him anywhere lmao, im just saying he seems to be skating a lot of shit Antwuan would skate especially in his baker 3 part (stairs, ledges, rails) and considering Kaders stepping away from tranny and big ass boards it would be more obvious to see that. Hes obviously stepping away from that little kid dickies shaved head shit too HIGHkey
Baker skater skates stairs ledges and rails, god the resemblance really is uncanny.
Kader isn't good enough at tranny to release regular footage doing it anyway, he knows better than to put out stuff that everyone would rather see GT do 3 feet higher when he can do good stuff at street with great style.
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I think it is funny that some people here think that kader is showing the man the middle finger with his constant brand change.
Maybe it will pay off in the end and he will get a lucrative offer from one of the big brands.
But to be honest, I don't think that nike or adidas gives a fuck what kader is doing. If he wants to keep on living the pro skater life and also wants to earn some money for the life afterwards he needs them more than they need him.
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Money talks and sadly most ppl only care about money
Should've stayed on Vans - period.
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I truly hope he hops to Cariuma just to fuck with SLAP. C'mon Kader, please.
would be funny, but I highly doubt it
I think hes trying to fit into a new Antwuan vibe or some shit skating-wise. Crazy switch and nollie without looking like hes really trying. Nonetheless hes definitely the "lite" version since hes just smoking albeit a lot and not getting drunk as fuck fighting people in public.
I don't think it's him trying to fit into any sort of vibe. It's more like you pigeonholing him into that role because he happens to be on Antwuans previous sponsor.
Im not tryna pigeonhole him anywhere lmao, im just saying he seems to be skating a lot of shit Antwuan would skate especially in his baker 3 part (stairs, ledges, rails) and considering Kaders stepping away from tranny and big ass boards it would be more obvious to see that. Hes obviously stepping away from that little kid dickies shaved head shit too HIGHkey
Kader isn't good enough at tranny to release regular footage doing it anyway, he knows better than to put out stuff that everyone would rather see GT do 3 feet higher when he can do good stuff at street with great style.
Switchfrontshuv is a kook. He thinks because they have the same skin color, they’re the same. Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit
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I truly hope he hops to Cariuma just to fuck with SLAP. C'mon Kader, please.
would be funny, but I highly doubt it
I think hes trying to fit into a new Antwuan vibe or some shit skating-wise. Crazy switch and nollie without looking like hes really trying. Nonetheless hes definitely the "lite" version since hes just smoking albeit a lot and not getting drunk as fuck fighting people in public.
I don't think it's him trying to fit into any sort of vibe. It's more like you pigeonholing him into that role because he happens to be on Antwuans previous sponsor.
Im not tryna pigeonhole him anywhere lmao, im just saying he seems to be skating a lot of shit Antwuan would skate especially in his baker 3 part (stairs, ledges, rails) and considering Kaders stepping away from tranny and big ass boards it would be more obvious to see that. Hes obviously stepping away from that little kid dickies shaved head shit too HIGHkey
They skate nothing alike. And “Stepping away from tranny”? Just shut up dude you sound like an idiot.
go learn nosegrinds kid fs ones are very easy took me a few minutes to learn basically eat shit
goofy
You make a thread asking for help on ssbs5050s yet throw shade on someone because they posted they cant do nosegrind variations?
go learn ss5050s kid bs ones are very easy took me a few minutes to learn
goofy
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Dunks>shell toes.
Superstars> campus>puma suedes> dunks>half cabs>chuck Taylor's
Tims over all if one has talent
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Yo anyone else see Kader in adidas in the latest supreme in atlanta post? LOL
Yeah what the fuck hahah it’d be funny if this dude is just burning every bridge before he’s 20.
This could also be weeks old footage
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I don't get the hype. His style is fine but he's no Antwan. His skating is also fine but not really that good by today's standards. He's just another kid that blends in the backround to me. When his emerica part came out he was good for his age/size. I don't see him being a GOAT. He had a chance to blow people away with his baker 4 part but it was super forgettable.
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I truly hope he hops to Cariuma just to fuck with SLAP. C'mon Kader, please.
would be funny, but I highly doubt it
I think hes trying to fit into a new Antwuan vibe or some shit skating-wise. Crazy switch and nollie without looking like hes really trying. Nonetheless hes definitely the "lite" version since hes just smoking albeit a lot and not getting drunk as fuck fighting people in public.
I don't think it's him trying to fit into any sort of vibe. It's more like you pigeonholing him into that role because he happens to be on Antwuans previous sponsor.
Im not tryna pigeonhole him anywhere lmao, im just saying he seems to be skating a lot of shit Antwuan would skate especially in his baker 3 part (stairs, ledges, rails) and considering Kaders stepping away from tranny and big ass boards it would be more obvious to see that. Hes obviously stepping away from that little kid dickies shaved head shit too HIGHkey
They skate nothing alike. And “Stepping away from tranny”? Just shut up dude you sound like an idiot.
go learn nosegrinds kid fs ones are very easy took me a few minutes to learn basically eat shit
goofy
You make a thread asking for help on ssbs5050s yet throw shade on someone because they posted they cant do nosegrind variations?
go learn ss5050s kid bs ones are very easy took me a few minutes to learn
goofy
Lol that's priceless
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Yo anyone else see Kader in adidas in the latest supreme in atlanta post? LOL
Yeah what the fuck hahah it’d be funny if this dude is just burning every bridge before he’s 20.
This could also be weeks old footage
I saw when they were in town, it was definitely after the whole nike thing so I just don't know. My friend said it best "He's just lucky that reynolds has his back"
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The Antwuan comparison is absolutely nonsensical this is just foolish
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yall are tripping. this dude is gonna be SOTY before any of us know it.
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The Antwuan comparison is absolutely nonsensical this is just foolish
this. twuan's style is up there with the best who ever did it. MJ, gino, ect.....
emulated by many and never duplicated
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Why does anyone give a fuck about this? Who he skates for impacts none of us, aside from the tweens that want to emulate him.
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yall are tripping. this dude is gonna be SOTY before any of us know it.
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Kinda reminds me of the mid 90s when sponsored dudes were wearing a little bit of everything.
Also how is this thread so long? Kader isn’t 2005-2006 P-rod, this dude’s shoe situation is not all that interesting.
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Also how is this thread so long?
There's also another thread that's 5 pages long. I have no idea how or why Kader is so polarizing.
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he skates, i like it, he's good, big sponsors
boom
lets move on
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I know right, why are people talking about this kid so much. Why would anyone log on to a skateboard forum to discuss skateboarders, for 5 to 10 years, with a little profile picture and everything. Why? What's going on here on Slap dot com
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I know right, why are people talking about this kid so much. Why would anyone log on to a skateboard forum to discuss skateboarders, for 5 to 10 years, with a little profile picture and everything. Why? What's going on here on Slap dot com
The same doesn't apply to counting stairs though?
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kader was never on the nike team page, i dont see what the problem is
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Skating adidas on supremes instagram. 19 pages of gossiping about his shoe sponsor all for nothing lmfao.
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bidding war by looks of it: https://www.instagram.com/p/CMBgdGulVdK/
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bidding war by looks of it: https://www.instagram.com/p/CMBgdGulVdK/
Was that Naks music ? Because it's shit.
Unreal clip though. He has great flow.
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His style is nice.
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y'all seem to forget kader is immortalized and can do no wrong because of his footy at dime glory challenge
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bidding war by looks of it: https://www.instagram.com/p/CMBgdGulVdK/
Was that Naks music ? Because it's shit.
Unreal clip though. He has great flow.
Chief Keef.
Looks great in those stripes though. His skating is wonderful.
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bidding war by looks of it: https://www.instagram.com/p/CMBgdGulVdK/
That was sick,I like how long he held the grinds and slides. Kids developing a nice style.
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It seems that people don't understand the concept of sponsoring a kid you see potential in (usually they are crazy good already) with the point of them developing and becoming way better as years go by. Reynolds is hella good at this. T Funk is another case of this. Homie was already really good when he started appearing in the Shake Junt/Baker vids and now he's bombing dictionary while drinking a brew.
TLDR: Just because Kaders Baker 4 part was not groundbreaking as people were expecting doesn't mean the dude doesn't have tthe talent to be a top tier pro. Shit just takes time
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Yup, that clip literally changed my mind about Kader. He looks fucking great and has grown into his style. The 3 stripes look great on his feet too.
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he definitely got some advisement from Reynolds on how to play the negotiation game, knowing what you're worth.
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I know right, why are people talking about this kid so much. Why would anyone log on to a skateboard forum to discuss skateboarders, for 5 to 10 years, with a little profile picture and everything. Why? What's going on here on Slap dot com
I ask myself this almost every day......
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Kader is sick but this is Slap, we can all agree he's not on the same level as guys like Hugo von Harkonnen or Jeppe Bjornblad so who cares really...
all your comments are top tier.
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That new clip is fire, kid definitely makes those Adidas look good.
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bidding war by looks of it: https://www.instagram.com/p/CMBgdGulVdK/
That was sick. Kader's line flow reminds me of Goldfish era MC in the best of ways. Just freeform talent. Two nollieflips in one line is the perfect IDGAF flex <3
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That was sick. Kader's line flow reminds me of Goldfish era MC in the best of ways. Just freeform talent. Two nollieflips in one line is the perfect IDGAF flex <3
Dude i agree that line is so sick. He also looks really good in superstars. Would be sick if he got an Adidas contract.
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he definitely got some advisement from Reynolds on how to play the negotiation game, knowing what you're worth.
Definitely reminds me of what Reynolds said about him getting on Vans... he just decided he wanted it and wore them and tagged the shit out of them on Instagram. Kader is doing the same thing only with two brands, probably gauging interest and how lucrative their deals would be.
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I honestly believe he will bail on Baker and wind up on FA or Hockey at some point, but I have been wrong many times before.
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he definitely got some advisement from Reynolds on how to play the negotiation game, knowing what you're worth.
Definitely reminds me of what Reynolds said about him getting on Vans... he just decided he wanted it and wore them and tagged the shit out of them on Instagram. Kader is doing the same thing only with two brands, probably gauging interest and how lucrative their deals would be.
He just tagged adidas in last post. Same strategy.
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hopefully he makes up his mind soon so this terrible thread can be done with
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If anyone is a Stern fan, they know the catchphrase "Fu** Jackie" ---in reference to Jackie the Jokeman
I think older skaters now just recite the phrase "Fu** Nike" ---and I don't know about you...but it makes me feel super nostalgic. Takes me right back to my high school days skating parking blocks behind a Safeway
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people in the comments on this post are way too salty about the music on a random instagram line
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMCcBceASQI/
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I honestly believe he will bail on Baker and wind up on FA or Hockey at some point, but I have been wrong many times before.
I get that but it seems like baker is better at retaining their pros than chocolate or real or whoever else FA/Hockey riders were with before joining up. Rowan is another one I was waiting to see announced on FA but still hasn't happened. I'd like to think it's because reynolds and co personally invest in their skaters. Spanky's epicly later'd was kind of an insight into how bummed that dude was when he got dropped, he probably could've taken up elsewhere but worked back on the team.
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Kader is sick but this is Slap, we can all agree he's not on the same level as guys like Hugo von Harkonnen or Jeppe Bjornblad so who cares really...
@BorgyCopers gets it: Pure Nordics' squad is dripping with sick Scanner rippers right now.
I used to buy Borgys from Concrete Jungle; loved 'em! Weren't they out of Smooth Hill distro or something?
Also, Kader just keeps getting better & better. People don't like this kid?!? What's ol' Borgsworth Copersmith on about?
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Also how is this thread so long?
There's also another thread that's 5 pages long. I have no idea how or why Kader is so polarizing.
Black skaters often get more scrutiny on here. See Tyshawn, Na-Kel, Zach Allen, Beatrice, TK, Antwuan, etc...
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I honestly believe he will bail on Baker and wind up on FA or Hockey at some point, but I have been wrong many times before.
I get that but it seems like baker is better at retaining their pros than chocolate or real or whoever else FA/Hockey riders were with before joining up. Rowan is another one I was waiting to see announced on FA but still hasn't happened. I'd like to think it's because reynolds and co personally invest in their skaters. Spanky's epicly later'd was kind of an insight into how bummed that dude was when he got dropped, he probably could've taken up elsewhere but worked back on the team.
Lenoce's bunt episode also talks about that. They sat him down and explained exactly why they were cutting him. Granted Lenoce still has as job at Bakerboys so he has a lot less reason to be bitter about it than Slash or Braydon. Despite their image it sounds like Baker has a lot of professionalism in dealing with their riders, which makes sense considering they've been in the game so long and have learned from their previous mistakes(Evan Hernandez, Furby, Leo, etc).
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people in the comments on this post are way too salty about the music on a random instagram line
https://www.instagram.com/p/CMCcBceASQI/
I mean it's not one of the better Chief Keef songs, but I've seen some awful indie rock or whatever that sounds just has bad that doesn't get as much hate. But I guess poorly singing over acoustic guitars, or screaming gibberish over distorted electric guitars is more tolerated.
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Also how is this thread so long?
There's also another thread that's 5 pages long. I have no idea how or why Kader is so polarizing.
Yeah I've noticed that too, Kader gets shit for switching his sponsors meanwhile dude's like Cyrus Bennett get labeled as "real" for doing the same thing.
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Also how is this thread so long?
There's also another thread that's 5 pages long. I have no idea how or why Kader is so polarizing.
I don’t think that’s quite an accurate comparison. Cyrus left two companies where he wasn’t being treated well. We haven’t heard why Kader has switched his shoe sponsor twice. I do agree that the obsession with this is a bit over the top. Racially-motivated? Probably, but I also see it as just typical “hate the shiny little kid” that Sheckler and Nyjah got when super young, but then again, I don’t care that much in the first place. It’s the same piranha style bullying that comes up in every MJ, Koston, AO thread where a bunch of posters can’t wait to sink their teeth and repeat the same tired comments like xyz “couldn’t handle MJs ideas”
Nakel and Tyshawn both come across as assholes and bullies. Personality traits I don’t find endearing in anyone, particularly T-Funk who I vocally can’t stand.
Antwuan I feel doesn’t get any recrimination on here, despite a history of terrible judgement and not doing anything worthy in skateboarding for about 15+ years. Basically he’s a white Crail Tap rider which I certainly vocally lambast on here.
Beatrice (like Theotis, TK) just surprises me personally about the high level of sponsorships they get for what I perceive as average skate ability. I wonder about it, worry that their brands are just co-opting their blackness for the image, but ultimately don’t lose sleep over it because skateboarding isn’t 100% meritocracy and I’m not the target audience of these moves and not everything thing needs for me.
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Why are you kids trying to make this a race thing? pretty dumb for sure. most the kids that skate for supreme including flowguys are POC. most of the store staff (atleast both NY stores) is hella diverse with black spanish and white people working. the warehouse is even more so
hell even palace NYC employs most black kids that can somehow make all that crazy gear look real good.
dudes like nak get hella hate here bc its definitely warranted. all he has to do is skate and not act like a baffoon on instaram. he cant do that. not suprised if supreme/dill knows he next jereme.
hes obviously really good at skating, but he seems insufferable to deal with at any capacity.
free max b
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Yeah personally I don’t see this as a race thing. Any pro changing shoe sponsors this often would get scrutiny. I think the fact that we’re seeing kader develop into potentially one of the best young pros out there and find his own style along with where social media’s at right now just makes it easier for everyone to be aware of it and have an opinion. And he’s on supreme which I feel like draws more criticisms from people than other brands
And if you’re doing it because you’re a racist asshole, get fucked. It’s that simple!
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random but do you think baker still goes by the “everyone gets paid the same” rule or do you think reynolds is paying some dudes extra at this point to keep them from jumping ship?
Doubt it. I think this may have been the deal with the original line up or baker 3 crew but not now. Dudes would get pretty salty if nuge was getting the same pay as Rowan or tfunk who constantly put footy out.
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he definitely got some advisement from Reynolds on how to play the negotiation game, knowing what you're worth.
Definitely reminds me of what Reynolds said about him getting on Vans... he just decided he wanted it and wore them and tagged the shit out of them on Instagram. Kader is doing the same thing only with two brands, probably gauging interest and how lucrative their deals would be.
He just tagged adidas in last post. Same strategy.
Yeah but he’s done the same with Nike is my point so it’s more he’s throwing it out to both and seeing what sticks
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It seems that people don't understand the concept of sponsoring a kid you see potential in (usually they are crazy good already) with the point of them developing and becoming way better as years go by. Reynolds is hella good at this.
Neither here nor there, but Reynolds says he learned how to spot talent from Tony, who learned it from Stacy. Two legends there, who spotted some of the best skaters in the world when they were absolute nobodies
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Why are you kids trying to make this a race thing? pretty dumb for sure. most the kids that skate for supreme including flowguys are POC. most of the store staff (atleast both NY stores) is hella diverse with black spanish and white people working. the warehouse is even more so
hell even palace NYC employs most black kids that can somehow make all that crazy gear look real good.
None of this is relevant to the opinion that black skaters get more criticism on the Slap forums
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I honestly believe he will bail on Baker and wind up on FA or Hockey at some point, but I have been wrong many times before.
I get that but it seems like baker is better at retaining their pros than chocolate or real or whoever else FA/Hockey riders were with before joining up. Rowan is another one I was waiting to see announced on FA but still hasn't happened. I'd like to think it's because reynolds and co personally invest in their skaters. Spanky's epicly later'd was kind of an insight into how bummed that dude was when he got dropped, he probably could've taken up elsewhere but worked back on the team.
I think Leo was the only skater to have quit the baker camp and had a successful career after, even winning soty the year after quitting. Their image is so strong that I could see no one else in the industry wanting to invest in rebranding a former baker rider.
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The Tyshawn criticism felt more racist than the Kader criticism, but people are being very extra about the bidding war he’s in.
In general I think board company loyalty is more important than shoe company loyalty. No one is making real money from boards it’s more about branding and who you want to be around. The shoe game is just corporate bullshit so why not get the most money if you can.
I doubt he’s trying to Join FA, too many dudes on there now. Elijah also making shit wild corny over there, let’s not forget.
I see Cyrus Bennett’s name being thrown around as a “why aren’t people criticizing his white ass” candidate, and I have to disagree lol. Cyrus leaving 917 is a good thing, because he is a dookie graphic designer. Didn’t he go to Pratt? Shouldn’t his boards be much cooler? Jason Dill and Pontus Alv make much sicker graphics and shit without the debt lol.
Also for what it’s worth, Kader do look better in black/white adidas.
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I don’t think that’s quite an accurate comparison. Cyrus left two companies where he wasn’t being treated well. We haven’t heard why Kader has switched his shoe sponsor twice. I do agree that the obsession with this is a bit over the top. Racially-motivated? Probably, but I also see it as just typical “hate the shiny little kid” that Sheckler and Nyjah got when super young, but then again, I don’t care that much in the first place. It’s the same piranha style bullying that comes up in every MJ, Koston, AO thread where a bunch of posters can’t wait to sink their teeth and repeat the same tired comments like xyz “couldn’t handle MJs ideas”
Nakel and Tyshawn both come across as assholes and bullies. Personality traits I don’t find endearing in anyone, particularly T-Funk who I vocally can’t stand.
Antwuan I feel doesn’t get any recrimination on here, despite a history of terrible judgement and not doing anything worthy in skateboarding for about 15+ years. Basically he’s a white Crail Tap rider which I certainly vocally lambast on here.
Beatrice (like Theotis, TK) just surprises me personally about the high level of sponsorships they get for what I perceive as average skate ability. I wonder about it, worry that their brands are just co-opting their blackness for the image, but ultimately don’t lose sleep over it because skateboarding isn’t 100% meritocracy and I’m not the target audience of these moves and not everything thing needs for me.
To say this about Theo is absolutely crazy haha
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I don’t think that’s quite an accurate comparison. Cyrus left two companies where he wasn’t being treated well. We haven’t heard why Kader has switched his shoe sponsor twice. I do agree that the obsession with this is a bit over the top. Racially-motivated? Probably, but I also see it as just typical “hate the shiny little kid” that Sheckler and Nyjah got when super young, but then again, I don’t care that much in the first place. It’s the same piranha style bullying that comes up in every MJ, Koston, AO thread where a bunch of posters can’t wait to sink their teeth and repeat the same tired comments like xyz “couldn’t handle MJs ideas”
Nakel and Tyshawn both come across as assholes and bullies. Personality traits I don’t find endearing in anyone, particularly T-Funk who I vocally can’t stand.
Antwuan I feel doesn’t get any recrimination on here, despite a history of terrible judgement and not doing anything worthy in skateboarding for about 15+ years. Basically he’s a white Crail Tap rider which I certainly vocally lambast on here.
Beatrice (like Theotis, TK) just surprises me personally about the high level of sponsorships they get for what I perceive as average skate ability. I wonder about it, worry that their brands are just co-opting their blackness for the image, but ultimately don’t lose sleep over it because skateboarding isn’t 100% meritocracy and I’m not the target audience of these moves and not everything thing needs for me.
To say this about Theo is absolutely crazy haha
Explain how
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I don’t think that’s quite an accurate comparison. Cyrus left two companies where he wasn’t being treated well. We haven’t heard why Kader has switched his shoe sponsor twice. I do agree that the obsession with this is a bit over the top. Racially-motivated? Probably, but I also see it as just typical “hate the shiny little kid” that Sheckler and Nyjah got when super young, but then again, I don’t care that much in the first place. It’s the same piranha style bullying that comes up in every MJ, Koston, AO thread where a bunch of posters can’t wait to sink their teeth and repeat the same tired comments like xyz “couldn’t handle MJs ideas”
Nakel and Tyshawn both come across as assholes and bullies. Personality traits I don’t find endearing in anyone, particularly T-Funk who I vocally can’t stand.
Antwuan I feel doesn’t get any recrimination on here, despite a history of terrible judgement and not doing anything worthy in skateboarding for about 15+ years. Basically he’s a white Crail Tap rider which I certainly vocally lambast on here.
Beatrice (like Theotis, TK) just surprises me personally about the high level of sponsorships they get for what I perceive as average skate ability. I wonder about it, worry that their brands are just co-opting their blackness for the image, but ultimately don’t lose sleep over it because skateboarding isn’t 100% meritocracy and I’m not the target audience of these moves and not everything thing needs for me.
To say this about Theo is absolutely crazy haha
Of course he is much better than TK and I don’t begrudge Theotis his riches, but it seems wild to me that someone like him, who’s fairly middle of the pack talent-wise for pro skaters, commands the money and sponsors he does. He’s not a contest killer and he doesn’t put out tons of footage, but seems to be super popular for some reason.
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I don’t think that’s quite an accurate comparison. Cyrus left two companies where he wasn’t being treated well. We haven’t heard why Kader has switched his shoe sponsor twice. I do agree that the obsession with this is a bit over the top. Racially-motivated? Probably, but I also see it as just typical “hate the shiny little kid” that Sheckler and Nyjah got when super young, but then again, I don’t care that much in the first place. It’s the same piranha style bullying that comes up in every MJ, Koston, AO thread where a bunch of posters can’t wait to sink their teeth and repeat the same tired comments like xyz “couldn’t handle MJs ideas”
Nakel and Tyshawn both come across as assholes and bullies. Personality traits I don’t find endearing in anyone, particularly T-Funk who I vocally can’t stand.
Antwuan I feel doesn’t get any recrimination on here, despite a history of terrible judgement and not doing anything worthy in skateboarding for about 15+ years. Basically he’s a white Crail Tap rider which I certainly vocally lambast on here.
Beatrice (like Theotis, TK) just surprises me personally about the high level of sponsorships they get for what I perceive as average skate ability. I wonder about it, worry that their brands are just co-opting their blackness for the image, but ultimately don’t lose sleep over it because skateboarding isn’t 100% meritocracy and I’m not the target audience of these moves and not everything thing needs for me.
To say this about Theo is absolutely crazy haha
Of course he is much better than TK and I don’t begrudge Theotis his riches, but it seems wild to me that someone like him, who’s fairly middle of the pack talent-wise for pro skaters, commands the money and sponsors he does. He’s not a contest killer and he doesn’t put out tons of footage, but seems to be super popular for some reason.
The man has had footage and coverage that span well over a decade. Believe it or not, he inspired a younger generation of skaters, and you even hear that in newer interviews. Although not the “best” he seems to be somebody brands can trust. The man is literally always repping his sponsors and putting out content. Even just when you hear people speak on the guy, nothing but high praise. So even though it may be shocking to you it’s really not shocking at all.
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TK thread is the most racist and bullying topic. Mental health its not funny. But here they spell sarcasm all the time on the Tk situation.
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Too many paragraphs to quote so I’m just going to fire from the hip.
The Tyshawn criticism felt more racist than the Kader criticism, but people are being very extra about the bidding war he’s in.
In general I think board company loyalty is more important than shoe company loyalty. No one is making real money from boards it’s more about branding and who you want to be around. The shoe game is just corporate bullshit so why not get the most money if you can.
I doubt he’s trying to Join FA, too many dudes on there now. Elijah also making shit wild corny over there, let’s not forget.
I see Cyrus Bennett’s name being thrown around as a “why aren’t people criticizing his white ass” candidate, and I have to disagree lol. Cyrus leaving 917 is a good thing, because he is a dookie graphic designer. Didn’t he go to Pratt? Shouldn’t his boards be much cooler? Jason Dill and Pontus Alv make much sicker graphics and shit without the debt lol.
Also for what it’s worth, Kader do look better in black/white adidas.
he's a industrial product designer if i remember correctly, no graphic design. he said he wants to go into making shoes possibly after skating.
pretty sure he claimed they weren't involved at all with the graphics and hated on them.
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I don’t think that’s quite an accurate comparison. Cyrus left two companies where he wasn’t being treated well. We haven’t heard why Kader has switched his shoe sponsor twice. I do agree that the obsession with this is a bit over the top. Racially-motivated? Probably, but I also see it as just typical “hate the shiny little kid” that Sheckler and Nyjah got when super young, but then again, I don’t care that much in the first place. It’s the same piranha style bullying that comes up in every MJ, Koston, AO thread where a bunch of posters can’t wait to sink their teeth and repeat the same tired comments like xyz “couldn’t handle MJs ideas”
Nakel and Tyshawn both come across as assholes and bullies. Personality traits I don’t find endearing in anyone, particularly T-Funk who I vocally can’t stand.
Antwuan I feel doesn’t get any recrimination on here, despite a history of terrible judgement and not doing anything worthy in skateboarding for about 15+ years. Basically he’s a white Crail Tap rider which I certainly vocally lambast on here.
Beatrice (like Theotis, TK) just surprises me personally about the high level of sponsorships they get for what I perceive as average skate ability. I wonder about it, worry that their brands are just co-opting their blackness for the image, but ultimately don’t lose sleep over it because skateboarding isn’t 100% meritocracy and I’m not the target audience of these moves and not everything thing needs for me.
To say this about Theo is absolutely crazy haha
Of course he is much better than TK and I don’t begrudge Theotis his riches, but it seems wild to me that someone like him, who’s fairly middle of the pack talent-wise for pro skaters, commands the money and sponsors he does. He’s not a contest killer and he doesn’t put out tons of footage, but seems to be super popular for some reason.
The man has had footage and coverage that span well over a decade. Believe it or not, he inspired a younger generation of skaters, and you even hear that in newer interviews. Although not the “best” he seems to be somebody brands can trust. The man is literally always repping his sponsors and putting out content. Even just when you hear people speak on the guy, nothing but high praise. So even though it may be shocking to you it’s really not shocking at all.
What are you talking about. I literally never hear anyone talking about Theotis. And he is far from always putting out “content”. The skaters I do hear people talk about and who are putting out parts at a heavy rate aren’t driving around in bentleys.
Btw Wild to create an account just to defend/praise Theotis of all skaters.
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It’s easy to see Kader’s talent. A recent instaclip of him doing a nollie bs heel and a fs heel over a kicker gap:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CK7O32jFNd5/?igshid=1ag0f1wx9io5b
A lot of unsponsored skaters could do that, but the way Kader us doing them(especially that fs heel) show that this is just the tip of the iceberg and he’s a natural skater. Just one example.
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It's still wild to me how worked up some people on here get over a young adult who skates for Baker smoking weed lol.
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Also that Instagram line he tagged adidas in is very meh. All style no substance.
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well adidas (skateboarding) is the only company out of the two that follows him and they literally just started following him, so i guess it’s all but final?
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Holy fucking power move (if it’s true)!
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Also that Instagram line he tagged adidas in is very meh. All style no substance.
This is Slap.
OG Slap pals would be foaming at the mouth
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This would honestly be a good move for adidas get some hype around their shoes again. The dunk craze I feel like has really taken away a lot of customers from adidas. I never see kids skating in adidas anymore it’s all Nike at the local parks and spots
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I saw him today in WEHO skating Adidas. That line he did at the dog park was sick.
Too bad I didn’t see GAY in WEHO!!
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the hanger on artist with the big news
Neckface musta been tied up all day
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Gonna be honest he looks better in the nikes.
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Didn't adidas cancelled like all their shop accounts awhile ago? So adidas skateboarding but you can't get them at your local shop but at fuckin foot locker?
I would like to get some adidas for skating but not if they treat shops and the culture like that.
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Didn't adidas cancelled like all their shop accounts awhile ago? So adidas skateboarding but you can't get them at your local shop but at fuckin foot locker?
I would like to get some adidas for skating but not if they treat shops and the culture like that.
This keeps popping up and I don't know what the situation is in the US but here in NZ you can only buy the adidas skate stuff from skate shops and the adidas DTC website. The big adidas mall shops don't sell any of the skate shoes or apparel, and neither does footlocker, i think it's like Nike SB, you gotta prove you sell skate goods to order them for your shop.
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Didn't adidas cancelled like all their shop accounts awhile ago? So adidas skateboarding but you can't get them at your local shop but at fuckin foot locker?
I would like to get some adidas for skating but not if they treat shops and the culture like that.
I cant tell if Adidas is cutting all shops or just some. Everyone ask your local about the status of their future Adidas shoes. My local shop has Adidas booked until June but after that no more shoes are coming in. I cant imagine Adidas cutting of all the skate shops tho. Adidas needs to be on shelves in some stores to stay in the consumers eye. 510 has a whole 'nother shoe store across the street selling fuc' boy shoes. That should give them pull on keeping Adidas skate in store. Tactics has a huge shoe wall with damn near every skate shoe. Adidas should want to be on that shoe wall. Supreme is a skate shop and Adidas fucks with their riders (gonz).
Meanwhile, Nikes are booked all year and Ishod is getting a pro model.
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Gonna be honest he looks better in the nikes.
Who doesn’t, am I right?
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sucuk is exeption
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There is no way he is still on nike. In his live he was filling out a blank of superstars. It will be interesting to see how this pans out.
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Didn't adidas cancelled like all their shop accounts awhile ago? So adidas skateboarding but you can't get them at your local shop but at fuckin foot locker?
I would like to get some adidas for skating but not if they treat shops and the culture like that.
Saw a few of their skate items at onehunga dressmart last time I was there but that was a while ago. Not sure if they even have a shop there anymore. Outside the likes of cheapskates and boardertown, I haven’t come across any in a while (haven’t been looking though)
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yupp, these are adidasses.
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I don’t think that’s quite an accurate comparison. Cyrus left two companies where he wasn’t being treated well. We haven’t heard why Kader has switched his shoe sponsor twice. I do agree that the obsession with this is a bit over the top. Racially-motivated? Probably, but I also see it as just typical “hate the shiny little kid” that Sheckler and Nyjah got when super young, but then again, I don’t care that much in the first place. It’s the same piranha style bullying that comes up in every MJ, Koston, AO thread where a bunch of posters can’t wait to sink their teeth and repeat the same tired comments like xyz “couldn’t handle MJs ideas”
Nakel and Tyshawn both come across as assholes and bullies. Personality traits I don’t find endearing in anyone, particularly T-Funk who I vocally can’t stand.
Antwuan I feel doesn’t get any recrimination on here, despite a history of terrible judgement and not doing anything worthy in skateboarding for about 15+ years. Basically he’s a white Crail Tap rider which I certainly vocally lambast on here.
Beatrice (like Theotis, TK) just surprises me personally about the high level of sponsorships they get for what I perceive as average skate ability. I wonder about it, worry that their brands are just co-opting their blackness for the image, but ultimately don’t lose sleep over it because skateboarding isn’t 100% meritocracy and I’m not the target audience of these moves and not everything thing needs for me.
To say this about Theo is absolutely crazy haha
Of course he is much better than TK and I don’t begrudge Theotis his riches, but it seems wild to me that someone like him, who’s fairly middle of the pack talent-wise for pro skaters, commands the money and sponsors he does. He’s not a contest killer and he doesn’t put out tons of footage, but seems to be super popular for some reason.
The man has had footage and coverage that span well over a decade. Believe it or not, he inspired a younger generation of skaters, and you even hear that in newer interviews. Although not the “best” he seems to be somebody brands can trust. The man is literally always repping his sponsors and putting out content. Even just when you hear people speak on the guy, nothing but high praise. So even though it may be shocking to you it’s really not shocking at all.
What are you talking about. I literally never hear anyone talking about Theotis. And he is far from always putting out “content”. The skaters I do hear people talk about and who are putting out parts at a heavy rate aren’t driving around in bentleys.
Btw Wild to create an account just to defend/praise Theotis of all skaters.
Why do people hate on Theotis so much. This sounds super racist btw. Hating on him bc he drives a Bentley. Theotis came from nothing and does well for himself he can drive whatever the fuck he wants. He put out a full part in Baker 4 and is constantly posting clips on Instagram. Even if his skating isn’t for you saying he isn’t productive is ridiculous. In my eyes Theotis knows how to navigate professional skateboarding very well in this era. As a black man it’s crazy to see how much scrutiny you guys give black skaters. Acting like we’re all a monolith constantly comparing black skaters that are nothing alike.
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I don’t think that’s quite an accurate comparison. Cyrus left two companies where he wasn’t being treated well. We haven’t heard why Kader has switched his shoe sponsor twice. I do agree that the obsession with this is a bit over the top. Racially-motivated? Probably, but I also see it as just typical “hate the shiny little kid” that Sheckler and Nyjah got when super young, but then again, I don’t care that much in the first place. It’s the same piranha style bullying that comes up in every MJ, Koston, AO thread where a bunch of posters can’t wait to sink their teeth and repeat the same tired comments like xyz “couldn’t handle MJs ideas”
Nakel and Tyshawn both come across as assholes and bullies. Personality traits I don’t find endearing in anyone, particularly T-Funk who I vocally can’t stand.
Antwuan I feel doesn’t get any recrimination on here, despite a history of terrible judgement and not doing anything worthy in skateboarding for about 15+ years. Basically he’s a white Crail Tap rider which I certainly vocally lambast on here.
Beatrice (like Theotis, TK) just surprises me personally about the high level of sponsorships they get for what I perceive as average skate ability. I wonder about it, worry that their brands are just co-opting their blackness for the image, but ultimately don’t lose sleep over it because skateboarding isn’t 100% meritocracy and I’m not the target audience of these moves and not everything thing needs for me.
To say this about Theo is absolutely crazy haha
Of course he is much better than TK and I don’t begrudge Theotis his riches, but it seems wild to me that someone like him, who’s fairly middle of the pack talent-wise for pro skaters, commands the money and sponsors he does. He’s not a contest killer and he doesn’t put out tons of footage, but seems to be super popular for some reason.
The man has had footage and coverage that span well over a decade. Believe it or not, he inspired a younger generation of skaters, and you even hear that in newer interviews. Although not the “best” he seems to be somebody brands can trust. The man is literally always repping his sponsors and putting out content. Even just when you hear people speak on the guy, nothing but high praise. So even though it may be shocking to you it’s really not shocking at all.
What are you talking about. I literally never hear anyone talking about Theotis. And he is far from always putting out “content”. The skaters I do hear people talk about and who are putting out parts at a heavy rate aren’t driving around in bentleys.
Btw Wild to create an account just to defend/praise Theotis of all skaters.
Toxic comments for black skaters everytime.
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I don’t think that’s quite an accurate comparison. Cyrus left two companies where he wasn’t being treated well. We haven’t heard why Kader has switched his shoe sponsor twice. I do agree that the obsession with this is a bit over the top. Racially-motivated? Probably, but I also see it as just typical “hate the shiny little kid” that Sheckler and Nyjah got when super young, but then again, I don’t care that much in the first place. It’s the same piranha style bullying that comes up in every MJ, Koston, AO thread where a bunch of posters can’t wait to sink their teeth and repeat the same tired comments like xyz “couldn’t handle MJs ideas”
Nakel and Tyshawn both come across as assholes and bullies. Personality traits I don’t find endearing in anyone, particularly T-Funk who I vocally can’t stand.
Antwuan I feel doesn’t get any recrimination on here, despite a history of terrible judgement and not doing anything worthy in skateboarding for about 15+ years. Basically he’s a white Crail Tap rider which I certainly vocally lambast on here.
Beatrice (like Theotis, TK) just surprises me personally about the high level of sponsorships they get for what I perceive as average skate ability. I wonder about it, worry that their brands are just co-opting their blackness for the image, but ultimately don’t lose sleep over it because skateboarding isn’t 100% meritocracy and I’m not the target audience of these moves and not everything thing needs for me.
To say this about Theo is absolutely crazy haha
Of course he is much better than TK and I don’t begrudge Theotis his riches, but it seems wild to me that someone like him, who’s fairly middle of the pack talent-wise for pro skaters, commands the money and sponsors he does. He’s not a contest killer and he doesn’t put out tons of footage, but seems to be super popular for some reason.
The man has had footage and coverage that span well over a decade. Believe it or not, he inspired a younger generation of skaters, and you even hear that in newer interviews. Although not the “best” he seems to be somebody brands can trust. The man is literally always repping his sponsors and putting out content. Even just when you hear people speak on the guy, nothing but high praise. So even though it may be shocking to you it’s really not shocking at all.
What are you talking about. I literally never hear anyone talking about Theotis. And he is far from always putting out “content”. The skaters I do hear people talk about and who are putting out parts at a heavy rate aren’t driving around in bentleys.
Btw Wild to create an account just to defend/praise Theotis of all skaters.
Toxic comments for black skaters everytime.
Yay bad faith arguments!
Theotis is without any doubt middle of the road talent and productivity-wise amongst skateboarders yet he appears to make more than 99% of skateboarders. No scrutiny about race ya bozo. It’s just shocking a skater of that level to command that kind of money to drive a Bentley, esp when most skaters have roommates, etc. Ishod drives a Tesla SUV and has another nice ass car. That makes sense as it’s commensurate with one of the best skaters of all time who films multiple parts a year and several Nike colorways and his own iteration of dunks.
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I don’t think that’s quite an accurate comparison. Cyrus left two companies where he wasn’t being treated well. We haven’t heard why Kader has switched his shoe sponsor twice. I do agree that the obsession with this is a bit over the top. Racially-motivated? Probably, but I also see it as just typical “hate the shiny little kid” that Sheckler and Nyjah got when super young, but then again, I don’t care that much in the first place. It’s the same piranha style bullying that comes up in every MJ, Koston, AO thread where a bunch of posters can’t wait to sink their teeth and repeat the same tired comments like xyz “couldn’t handle MJs ideas”
Nakel and Tyshawn both come across as assholes and bullies. Personality traits I don’t find endearing in anyone, particularly T-Funk who I vocally can’t stand.
Antwuan I feel doesn’t get any recrimination on here, despite a history of terrible judgement and not doing anything worthy in skateboarding for about 15+ years. Basically he’s a white Crail Tap rider which I certainly vocally lambast on here.
Beatrice (like Theotis, TK) just surprises me personally about the high level of sponsorships they get for what I perceive as average skate ability. I wonder about it, worry that their brands are just co-opting their blackness for the image, but ultimately don’t lose sleep over it because skateboarding isn’t 100% meritocracy and I’m not the target audience of these moves and not everything thing needs for me.
To say this about Theo is absolutely crazy haha
Of course he is much better than TK and I don’t begrudge Theotis his riches, but it seems wild to me that someone like him, who’s fairly middle of the pack talent-wise for pro skaters, commands the money and sponsors he does. He’s not a contest killer and he doesn’t put out tons of footage, but seems to be super popular for some reason.
The man has had footage and coverage that span well over a decade. Believe it or not, he inspired a younger generation of skaters, and you even hear that in newer interviews. Although not the “best” he seems to be somebody brands can trust. The man is literally always repping his sponsors and putting out content. Even just when you hear people speak on the guy, nothing but high praise. So even though it may be shocking to you it’s really not shocking at all.
What are you talking about. I literally never hear anyone talking about Theotis. And he is far from always putting out “content”. The skaters I do hear people talk about and who are putting out parts at a heavy rate aren’t driving around in bentleys.
Btw Wild to create an account just to defend/praise Theotis of all skaters.
Toxic comments for black skaters everytime.
Yay bad faith arguments!
Theotis is without any doubt middle of the road talent and productivity-wise amongst skateboarders yet he appears to make more than 99% of skateboarders. No scrutiny about race ya bozo. It’s just shocking a skater of that level to command that kind of money to drive a Bentley, esp when most skaters have roommates, etc. Ishod drives a Tesla SUV and has another nice ass car. That makes sense as it’s commensurate with one of the best skaters of all time who films multiple parts a year and several Nike colorways and his own iteration of dunks.
Never been a Theotis fan, but also not a hater. His style and trick selection never really did it for me (the big heel he does in Baker 4 is dope though). But to be fair to him, you don't really know how he was using those Nike and Dew cheques when he was more prominent and probably getting fatter paydays. He could have invested or done something else with that flow and made a boatload outside of skating. You seem mad that he got paid... Also, let a guy waste his money on a car if he wants. For all you know, maybe he is fucking broke and wasted those cheques but still leases his Bentley. Maybe Ishod is smart with his money.
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Theotis skates like an uncoordinated white boy.
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Theotis has #YOUNGMONEY
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Kader on Adidas.
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Theotis was smart and invested his money.
What the fuck is it to you if he drives a Bentley.
And as a pro he was productive and above all a good brand and selling point.
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Are you all intentionally misunderstanding or just unable to understand any nuance? I don’t care who the skater is and what the skater buys with it, but it’s surprising a middle tier pro has tons of money. He doesn’t have pro model shoes or anything like that and skaters with similar sponsors (Mountain Dew) don’t seem to have that level of money. He has a 1/3 of the followers on IG that ishod or Reynolds or Daewon does, so it’s not like he’s internet famous or anything like that.
And you don’t know that he’s invested his money in anything or done anything like that so shut the fuck up.
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Are you all intentionally misunderstanding or just unable to understand any nuance? I don’t care who the skater is and what the skater buys with it, but it’s surprising a middle tier pro has tons of money. He doesn’t have pro model shoes or anything like that and skaters with similar sponsors (Mountain Dew) don’t seem to have that level of money. He has a 1/3 of the followers on IG that ishod or Reynolds or Daewon does, so it’s not like he’s internet famous or anything like that.
And you don’t know that he’s invested his money in anything or done anything like that so shut the fuck up.
You just seem really concerned about why he has that money. Mountain Dew during Theotis's prime was paying really well I think. He wasn't really considered middle tier at that point either. I think a lot of people (and brands) saw a really bright future with that good natured kid, and were probably giving him a fat payday. Granted his career did not blossom as much as they might have hoped, but I think there were high expectations. Just don't know why you seem so upset that he drives a Bentley which may be leased. And yeah we don't know if he's invested or not, but you don't either so why speculate that his sponsor paycheques were the only way he was able to afford what he has. We have no idea, so to be upset that he's making more money than someone you think is more deserving seems ridiculous.
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Are you all intentionally misunderstanding or just unable to understand any nuance? I don’t care who the skater is and what the skater buys with it, but it’s surprising a middle tier pro has tons of money. He doesn’t have pro model shoes or anything like that and skaters with similar sponsors (Mountain Dew) don’t seem to have that level of money. He has a 1/3 of the followers on IG that ishod or Reynolds or Daewon does, so it’s not like he’s internet famous or anything like that.
And you don’t know that he’s invested his money in anything or done anything like that so shut the fuck up.
What did Theotis do to you? Dude is obviously genuinely a good person. His Bentley is kinda old btw so I don’t think it was crazy expensive. He has a house and a park in his backyard. He might not have the greatest style but he does his fucking job. And don’t call me a bozo bc you’re coming off racist. I’m black I’m not new to this you don’t have to call someone the n word to be racist.
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Fuck, you guys are dumb.
Being surprised that ANY pro has that kind of money is not the same as being mad/hating/inconsolable that THEOTIS specifically has that kind of money.
You guys are intentionally trying to warp what I’m saying by countering with made up facts of what he’s done with that money or how he’s invested or spent it. Not shocking that you’re bad faith trolls as it’s been apparent for pages, but whatever
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Fuck, you guys are dumb.
Being surprised that ANY pro has that kind of money is not the same as being mad/hating/inconsolable that THEOTIS specifically has that kind of money.
You guys are intentionally trying to warp what I’m saying by countering with made up facts of what he’s done with that money or how he’s invested or spent it. Not shocking that you’re bad faith trolls as it’s been apparent for pages, but whatever
Why is it surprising that a guy that got on Nike and Mountain Dew and god knows what else when they were giving out big contracts has a home and pretty nice car? Granted, I get your point that a lot of pros probably don’t even make enough to afford payments on a decent Honda, but I think Theotis got in at a good time and was marketable so he got paid. Hell, even Keelan Dadd was making 120k a year around those days and he’s way less talented and marketable than Theotis.
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Theotis lifestyle is not out of line for his career. Anita acting like he's Andrew Brophy or something...
Yes, perfect example is Brophy. I do not understanding how he has had an Audi (now Ford) deal, GoPro, etc for his talent level and production level.
But I bet if I mentioned him first you wouldn’t have gone on and on about housing prices in Australia, blah blah. But at least you got to accuse me of being anti-black while calling me the name of someone who was known for his anti-Semitism.
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Yes, perfect example is Brophy. I do not understanding how he has had an Audi (now Ford) deal, GoPro, etc for his talent level and production level.
brophy comes from a motor racing family with (i believe) ties to the automotive industry, so a deal like the ford one is pretty easily explained, and has little to do with skateboarding and more to do with social media presence
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will he make the jump too FA tho
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Theotis is such a nice dude that I can get past the fact that his skating doesn't do shit for me. He's a good role model for the youth and a positive force in his community. I hope he gets a check for the rest of life. We need more people like him in the world
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Theotis is such a nice dude that I can get past the fact that his skating doesn't do shit for me. He's a good role model for the youth and a positive force in his community. I hope he gets a check for the rest of life. We need more people like him in the world
This. He also takes care a portion of his family financially so I kinda love it when he flexes his cash.
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Theotis is such a nice dude that I can get past the fact that his skating doesn't do shit for me. He's a good role model for the youth and a positive force in his community. I hope he gets a check for the rest of life. We need more people like him in the world
He is super positive and always seemed to appreciate everything he’s earned. I wasn’t always a fan of his style, but I think it’s improved. He was at least skating faster in the last few clips I saw. I got no issues with his board lookin like a nascar. He’s paid his dues and didn’t kook it like a lot of people in his position probably would have.
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Theotis is better than he gets credit for but also one of those guys who doesn't seem motivated to do the hardest tricks. probably been stacking mountain dew and nike money for a long time now...good on him for not blowing it. Andrew brophy kind of sucks but thankfully I hardly remember he exists until his name is brought up on slap
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The oddest bees lee, if you will. Tech manual powers, you could say.
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Fuck, you guys are dumb.
Being surprised that ANY pro has that kind of money is not the same as being mad/hating/inconsolable that THEOTIS specifically has that kind of money.
You guys are intentionally trying to warp what I’m saying by countering with made up facts of what he’s done with that money or how he’s invested or spent it. Not shocking that you’re bad faith trolls as it’s been apparent for pages, but whatever
Everything I said was true. I said he has a house and a park. A used Bentley isn’t as expensive as people think. Stop trying to make people sound stupid bc you’re a bitter ass pocket watcher. He doesn’t do any drugs and has a bunch of corporate sponsors. It be kind of weird for the skater with literally the most sponsors to not have money. He probably brings in 6 figures alone between Baker Nike and Mountain Dew. And then he has like 10 more sponsors.
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What's really surprising is that his corporate sponsors didn't toss him aside as he aged and his skate productivity dipped. Cause Theotis really isn't being featured in videos like he used to be (outside of his own instagram), you gotta admit. Maybe it's just my algorithms, but I've seen noticeably less of the guy than I did 7-8 years ago.
However, the fact that he has those sponsors and has had them for this long is enough evidence for me to understand how he got his finances in order. He just used the money wisely, that's not something you really loudly promote unless you're a horse or something. Also definitely suggests the companies saw his numerous positive qualities and realized he was marketable for more than just his skating.
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dude lost me with that Payday-loan sponsor. chase that check i guess, but that goes beyond lame into actual damaging territory.
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What the fuck is it to you if he drives a Bentley.
Bentley are cool, but the repair and maintenance costs on a car like that though?
I get cold sweats just thinking about it.... Unless it's leased. Then fuck yeah, let's go off roading!
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I actually really liked Theo’s part in Baker 4 (minus all the unnecessary B-roll that emphasizes the black male stereotypes). This prob belongs in the unpopular opinion thread but whatever. I blame Andrew and whoever else edited the video for that, not him.
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If you baptize your kids in Mountain Dew, PepsiCo will more than make it up to you, I promise.
I collect cans of Mountain Dew, and I have three Bentleys.
Money in skateboarding can be kind of random and arbitrary. Ryan Gallant is a great skater, and ended up getting a serious check from DC when it was sold because anyone who was officially on had part ownership. But a lot of equally good or more legendary skaters ended up kinda broke-ish.
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What's really surprising is that his corporate sponsors didn't toss him aside as he aged and his skate productivity dipped. Cause Theotis really isn't being featured in videos like he used to be (outside of his own instagram), you gotta admit. Maybe it's just my algorithms, but I've seen noticeably less of the guy than I did 7-8 years ago.
However, the fact that he has those sponsors and has had them for this long is enough evidence for me to understand how he got his finances in order. He just used the money wisely, that's not something you really loudly promote unless you're a horse or something. Also definitely suggests the companies saw his numerous positive qualities and realized he was marketable for more than just his skating.
Look the “Theotis bought a Bentley” shit was in a bunch of skate mags, just like when P Rod bought a bunch of people Cadillacs. I don’t have this inside track to pros personal lives that everyone else seems to here.
And you’re basically getting to what I was talking about. He’s not particularly coverage heavy (Malto on Mountain Dew isn’t either anymore but used to be hot shit) so it’s surprising he has those sponsors. He’s not a Dew Tour guy or anything and they haven’t really done any commercials videos promoting him. You don’t really see that in other athletic endeavors, so I thought it was interesting to talk about.
Hell, people on these boards were bitching a week ago that 40+ year old MJ didn’t skate enough anymore to merit an Adidas sponsorship because he isn’t producing as much as he used to and he’s easily a Top 10 Skater of All Time, but I guess Theotis must be protected at all costs even from people who weren’t insulting or coming at him.
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these big shoe cos know what they're doing business wise. I doubt Adidas skate is even worth it at all for Adidas. they don't have a dunk that people line up for or a janoski that was like the default skate shoe for over a decade. the last limited FA and last two Gonz Alohas are still at the shops and their "core" shoes can always be found at the outlet here for 30 dollars
I could totally see Adidas canceling their skate shop contracts and just selling online. but it also seems like the Adidas situation is very different in Europe and America.
IDK why Kader blew it with both Vans and Nike to try to get on Adidas. seem like an unwise career move . but I heard some weird stuff that he wanted Nike and Nike wanted him on but Supreme wanted him to stay on Vans due to some strategy with the VF acquisition and screwed his nike deal over at the manager/agent level. then it all blew up and now he's off everything and looking for sponsors
I can tell you Adidas superstars sells more than both dunk and Janoski.
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these big shoe cos know what they're doing business wise. I doubt Adidas skate is even worth it at all for Adidas. they don't have a dunk that people line up for or a janoski that was like the default skate shoe for over a decade. the last limited FA and last two Gonz Alohas are still at the shops and their "core" shoes can always be found at the outlet here for 30 dollars
I could totally see Adidas canceling their skate shop contracts and just selling online. but it also seems like the Adidas situation is very different in Europe and America.
IDK why Kader blew it with both Vans and Nike to try to get on Adidas. seem like an unwise career move . but I heard some weird stuff that he wanted Nike and Nike wanted him on but Supreme wanted him to stay on Vans due to some strategy with the VF acquisition and screwed his nike deal over at the manager/agent level. then it all blew up and now he's off everything and looking for sponsors
I can tell you Adidas superstars sells more than both dunk and Janoski.
In Europe where I am from. Adidas would be the biggest seller too.
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What's really surprising is that his corporate sponsors didn't toss him aside as he aged and his skate productivity dipped. Cause Theotis really isn't being featured in videos like he used to be (outside of his own instagram), you gotta admit. Maybe it's just my algorithms, but I've seen noticeably less of the guy than I did 7-8 years ago.
However, the fact that he has those sponsors and has had them for this long is enough evidence for me to understand how he got his finances in order. He just used the money wisely, that's not something you really loudly promote unless you're a horse or something. Also definitely suggests the companies saw his numerous positive qualities and realized he was marketable for more than just his skating.
Look the “Theotis bought a Bentley” shit was in a bunch of skate mags, just like when P Rod bought a bunch of people Cadillacs. I don’t have this inside track to pros personal lives that everyone else seems to here.
And you’re basically getting to what I was talking about. He’s not particularly coverage heavy (Malto on Mountain Dew isn’t either anymore but used to be hot shit) so it’s surprising he has those sponsors. He’s not a Dew Tour guy or anything and they haven’t really done any commercials videos promoting him. You don’t really see that in other athletic endeavors, so I thought it was interesting to talk about.
Hell, people on these boards were bitching a week ago that 40+ year old MJ didn’t skate enough anymore to merit an Adidas sponsorship because he isn’t producing as much as he used to and he’s easily a Top 10 Skater of All Time, but I guess Theotis must be protected at all costs even from people who weren’t insulting or coming at him.
I really do agree with what you were saying, and I think what's surprising to both of us is that his sponsors still support him despite not being a footage machine, even though he is a great guy with a squeaky clean image. In an industry/culture where we do have casual fans talking shit about productivity of beloved legends, that is abnormal.
I also agree it's interesting to talk about, especially because it suggests (and I'll admit I don't know this to be fact, but it seems entirely plausible) that Theotis knew where to put/how to use the money that was coming in, as well as how to negotiate contracts and keep those sponsors for reasons other than just skating. He had to be doing things on his end to maintain those contracts, big companies aren't just gonna pay you because you're nice and support your family/community... he was bringing them money in too. Being a good role model/having a clean image is something he has on his side, though.
I think you've been misunderstood and very important points you've made have been ignored, like how you mentioned that skaters' blackness is often co-opted by companies in skateboarding for financial gain/image, and how you acknowledged that black skaters draw a special kind of criticism because of their race. These are serious problems when it comes to race and skateboarding... not wondering how Theotis Beasley financed his Bentley.
I think the way you phrased your question was asking for a little fire, talking about his skill level and wondering how he ever managed it, rather than asking the better question which is why did his corporate sponsors not act like corporate sponsors and drop him when he fell out of the limelight in skateboarding as he aged? I really do think the answer is Theotis knows how to manage money/contracts and do what needs to he done to get paid behind the scenes.
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these big shoe cos know what they're doing business wise. I doubt Adidas skate is even worth it at all for Adidas. they don't have a dunk that people line up for or a janoski that was like the default skate shoe for over a decade. the last limited FA and last two Gonz Alohas are still at the shops and their "core" shoes can always be found at the outlet here for 30 dollars
I could totally see Adidas canceling their skate shop contracts and just selling online. but it also seems like the Adidas situation is very different in Europe and America.
IDK why Kader blew it with both Vans and Nike to try to get on Adidas. seem like an unwise career move . but I heard some weird stuff that he wanted Nike and Nike wanted him on but Supreme wanted him to stay on Vans due to some strategy with the VF acquisition and screwed his nike deal over at the manager/agent level. then it all blew up and now he's off everything and looking for sponsors
I can tell you Adidas superstars sells more than both dunk and Janoski.
In Europe where I am from. Adidas would be the biggest seller too.
I mean an apt comparison is the superstar ADV, comparing standard superstars sales to janoski or SB dunks is apples and oranges. Personally I feel like Adidas skateboarding hits in waves, at certain times there's a huge push and I feel like everything I see Adidas related, but maybe it's just me. I feel like they've been pretty quiet since they supposedly dropped loads of shops, plus having videos delete off YouTube is a super weird strategy also. Nike are pretty damn constant when it comes to pushing this shit, plus they take little risk with new designs of shoes these days, everything is either a blazer, dunk, or court variation it seems. In my opinion Adidas have more interesting designs these days which I applaud, especially cause you can usually buy their shit without having to deal with a whole raffle + resale predicament that nike have created.
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these big shoe cos know what they're doing business wise. I doubt Adidas skate is even worth it at all for Adidas. they don't have a dunk that people line up for or a janoski that was like the default skate shoe for over a decade. the last limited FA and last two Gonz Alohas are still at the shops and their "core" shoes can always be found at the outlet here for 30 dollars
I could totally see Adidas canceling their skate shop contracts and just selling online. but it also seems like the Adidas situation is very different in Europe and America.
IDK why Kader blew it with both Vans and Nike to try to get on Adidas. seem like an unwise career move . but I heard some weird stuff that he wanted Nike and Nike wanted him on but Supreme wanted him to stay on Vans due to some strategy with the VF acquisition and screwed his nike deal over at the manager/agent level. then it all blew up and now he's off everything and looking for sponsors
I can tell you Adidas superstars sells more than both dunk and Janoski.
In Europe where I am from. Adidas would be the biggest seller too.
I mean an apt comparison is the superstar ADV, comparing standard superstars sales to janoski or SB dunks is apples and oranges. Personally I feel like Adidas skateboarding hits in waves, at certain times there's a huge push and I feel like everything I see Adidas related, but maybe it's just me. I feel like they've been pretty quiet since they supposedly dropped loads of shops, plus having videos delete off YouTube is a super weird strategy also. Nike are pretty damn constant when it comes to pushing this shit, plus they take little risk with new designs of shoes these days, everything is either a blazer, dunk, or court variation it seems. In my opinion Adidas have more interesting designs these days which I applaud, especially cause you can usually buy their shit without having to deal with a whole raffle + resale predicament that nike have created.
Its not apples to oranges. Skateboard program helped the trend of standards superstars cameback. Now you see them in
everywhere. I know that shoe is a timeless classic, but since 2010 they got a reboost. Adidas superstars is one of the biggest selling shoes ever, next to chuck taylors.
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bigotry is bad enough, calling MJ top ten all time is where i draw the line
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bigotry is bad enough, calling MJ top ten all time is where i draw the line
idk man I rewatched some of his parts recently and they're pretty fucked up even by today's standards. I never cared for theotis but don't wish him any ill will. he seems like a solid enough guy. weird how this thread ended up here.
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is Theotis represented by that skater/agent company by Ryan Clements? I know he did a lot of investing for skaters when they were getting a lot of cash from sponsors like Men. Dew, etc. Shit, he even helped Freddy get out from his IRS problems. I feel like Theotis was getting a lot of shine around the time Ryan started that business and a bunch o people got on board.
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What's really surprising is that his corporate sponsors didn't toss him aside as he aged and his skate productivity dipped. Cause Theotis really isn't being featured in videos like he used to be (outside of his own instagram), you gotta admit. Maybe it's just my algorithms, but I've seen noticeably less of the guy than I did 7-8 years ago.
However, the fact that he has those sponsors and has had them for this long is enough evidence for me to understand how he got his finances in order. He just used the money wisely, that's not something you really loudly promote unless you're a horse or something. Also definitely suggests the companies saw his numerous positive qualities and realized he was marketable for more than just his skating.
Look the “Theotis bought a Bentley” shit was in a bunch of skate mags, just like when P Rod bought a bunch of people Cadillacs. I don’t have this inside track to pros personal lives that everyone else seems to here.
And you’re basically getting to what I was talking about. He’s not particularly coverage heavy (Malto on Mountain Dew isn’t either anymore but used to be hot shit) so it’s surprising he has those sponsors. He’s not a Dew Tour guy or anything and they haven’t really done any commercials videos promoting him. You don’t really see that in other athletic endeavors, so I thought it was interesting to talk about.
Hell, people on these boards were bitching a week ago that 40+ year old MJ didn’t skate enough anymore to merit an Adidas sponsorship because he isn’t producing as much as he used to and he’s easily a Top 10 Skater of All Time, but I guess Theotis must be protected at all costs even from people who weren’t insulting or coming at him.
I really do agree with what you were saying, and I think what's surprising to both of us is that his sponsors still support him despite not being a footage machine, even though he is a great guy with a squeaky clean image. In an industry/culture where we do have casual fans talking shit about productivity of beloved legends, that is abnormal.
I also agree it's interesting to talk about, especially because it suggests (and I'll admit I don't know this to be fact, but it seems entirely plausible) that Theotis knew where to put/how to use the money that was coming in, as well as how to negotiate contracts and keep those sponsors for reasons other than just skating. He had to be doing things on his end to maintain those contracts, big companies aren't just gonna pay you because you're nice and support your family/community... he was bringing them money in too. Being a good role model/having a clean image is something he has on his side, though.
I think you've been misunderstood and very important points you've made have been ignored, like how you mentioned that skaters' blackness is often co-opted by companies in skateboarding for financial gain/image, and how you acknowledged that black skaters draw a special kind of criticism because of their race. These are serious problems when it comes to race and skateboarding... not wondering how Theotis Beasley financed his Bentley.
I think the way you phrased your question was asking for a little fire, talking about his skill level and wondering how he ever managed it, rather than asking the better question which is why did his corporate sponsors not act like corporate sponsors and drop him when he fell out of the limelight in skateboarding as he aged? I really do think the answer is Theotis knows how to manage money/contracts and do what needs to he done to get paid behind the scenes.
Thank you
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Damn I wonder if that Kader getting kicked off supreme and fucking up a Nike deal story is legit though. Would be kinda funny if his whole bidding war thing backfired on him. But this is also kader who for some reason has been in riverside for the last month and asking for ps5 plugs and half pounds on his insta story. He’s just a kid but I think Nike would the smarter choice long term.
Also fun story back In like 2017 Theotis’ contract was gonna end at Nike and he was actually trying to get on adidas. I guess he took the contract demotion at Nike or adidas was gonna pay him cause it didn’t happen but he was defintely looking to jumping Ship to the threes stripes at one point.
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these big shoe cos know what they're doing business wise. I doubt Adidas skate is even worth it at all for Adidas. they don't have a dunk that people line up for or a janoski that was like the default skate shoe for over a decade. the last limited FA and last two Gonz Alohas are still at the shops and their "core" shoes can always be found at the outlet here for 30 dollars
I could totally see Adidas canceling their skate shop contracts and just selling online. but it also seems like the Adidas situation is very different in Europe and America.
IDK why Kader blew it with both Vans and Nike to try to get on Adidas. seem like an unwise career move . but I heard some weird stuff that he wanted Nike and Nike wanted him on but Supreme wanted him to stay on Vans due to some strategy with the VF acquisition and screwed his nike deal over at the manager/agent level. then it all blew up and now he's off everything and looking for sponsors
I can tell you Adidas superstars sells more than both dunk and Janoski.
Nike has 4x the market share adidas does, so they clearly do not
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Saying MJ is top ten all time is a perfectly acceptable opinion
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Times are tough right now economically. I know from skateboarding and other sports that some pro athletes, especially those with managers, asked for too much money. And brands said no.
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Damn I wonder if that Kader getting kicked off supreme and fucking up a Nike deal story is legit though. Would be kinda funny if his whole bidding war thing backfired on him. But this is also kader who for some reason has been in riverside for the last month and asking for ps5 plugs and half pounds on his insta story. He’s just a kid but I think Nike would the smarter choice long term.
Also fun story back In like 2017 Theotis’ contract was gonna end at Nike and he was actually trying to get on adidas. I guess he took the contract demotion at Nike or adidas was gonna pay him cause it didn’t happen but he was defintely looking to jumping Ship to the threes stripes at one point.
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https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/videos/world-s-best-premiere-chronicles-iii/
PS: I find Theotis very endearing in this. How can you not love a guy who will chill and chat shit like that.
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This basically explains it all. Many pro skaters have dramatically over-valued themselves in the market, and nobody's biting. Same reason Austyn isn't on contract with anybody. I'm a big fan of Kader, and think he has potential for a great career, but is he going to move the sales needle for a shoe brand significantly compared to any other celebrity they could do a project with? The days of guys who are amazing and get a deal because they "deserve" one are pretty much over.
Times are tough right now economically. I know from skateboarding and other sports that some pro athletes, especially those with managers, asked for too much money. And brands said no.
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these big shoe cos know what they're doing business wise. I doubt Adidas skate is even worth it at all for Adidas. they don't have a dunk that people line up for or a janoski that was like the default skate shoe for over a decade. the last limited FA and last two Gonz Alohas are still at the shops and their "core" shoes can always be found at the outlet here for 30 dollars
I could totally see Adidas canceling their skate shop contracts and just selling online. but it also seems like the Adidas situation is very different in Europe and America.
IDK why Kader blew it with both Vans and Nike to try to get on Adidas. seem like an unwise career move . but I heard some weird stuff that he wanted Nike and Nike wanted him on but Supreme wanted him to stay on Vans due to some strategy with the VF acquisition and screwed his nike deal over at the manager/agent level. then it all blew up and now he's off everything and looking for sponsors
I can tell you Adidas superstars sells more than both dunk and Janoski.
the skate superstars definitely don't outsell janoskis in the USA. but the regular superstar likely does outsell all of nike skate shoes combined. but if youre going there the regular superstar probably outsells all the Adidas skate specific shoes by like 5 times
but that's what I meant. Adidas could just basically cancel their whole skate program and just sell regular superstars and gazelles to skaters. they don't have a skate specific shoe that is a must have. even for skaters. for a decade janoskis were like the default skate shoe in the USA and a huge surprise money maker for Nike. and they don't have a dunk either where people are lining up overnight to get them
Dunks nowadays just works for limited editions, I dont see regular skaters in dunks, they are expensives and overhyped. Skaters hate it.
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these big shoe cos know what they're doing business wise. I doubt Adidas skate is even worth it at all for Adidas. they don't have a dunk that people line up for or a janoski that was like the default skate shoe for over a decade. the last limited FA and last two Gonz Alohas are still at the shops and their "core" shoes can always be found at the outlet here for 30 dollars
I could totally see Adidas canceling their skate shop contracts and just selling online. but it also seems like the Adidas situation is very different in Europe and America.
IDK why Kader blew it with both Vans and Nike to try to get on Adidas. seem like an unwise career move . but I heard some weird stuff that he wanted Nike and Nike wanted him on but Supreme wanted him to stay on Vans due to some strategy with the VF acquisition and screwed his nike deal over at the manager/agent level. then it all blew up and now he's off everything and looking for sponsors
I can tell you Adidas superstars sells more than both dunk and Janoski.
the skate superstars definitely don't outsell janoskis in the USA. but the regular superstar likely does outsell all of nike skate shoes combined. but if youre going there the regular superstar probably outsells all the Adidas skate specific shoes by like 5 times
but that's what I meant. Adidas could just basically cancel their whole skate program and just sell regular superstars and gazelles to skaters. they don't have a skate specific shoe that is a must have. even for skaters. for a decade janoskis were like the default skate shoe in the USA and a huge surprise money maker for Nike. and they don't have a dunk either where people are lining up overnight to get them
Dunks nowadays just works for limited editions, I dont see regular skaters in dunks, they are expensives and overhyped. Skaters hate it.
I see lots of regular skaters in dunks. Goofy skaters too. But seriously, lots of "regular" skaters skate dunks.
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It amazes my how little “slap” as a whole can understand money, how it works, how to work it, etc.
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It amazes my how little “slap” as a whole can understand money, how it works, how to work it, etc.
put us on then telly
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Damn I wonder if that Kader getting kicked off supreme and fucking up a Nike deal story is legit though. Would be kinda funny if his whole bidding war thing backfired on him. But this is also kader who for some reason has been in riverside for the last month and asking for ps5 plugs and half pounds on his insta story. He’s just a kid but I think Nike would the smarter choice long term.
Also fun story back In like 2017 Theotis’ contract was gonna end at Nike and he was actually trying to get on adidas. I guess he took the contract demotion at Nike or adidas was gonna pay him cause it didn’t happen but he was defintely looking to jumping Ship to the threes stripes at one point.
What was the deal with that story? I didn’t see anything about it but would definitely be interested in the cliff notes
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Are you all intentionally misunderstanding or just unable to understand any nuance? I don’t care who the skater is and what the skater buys with it, but it’s surprising a middle tier pro has tons of money. He doesn’t have pro model shoes or anything like that and skaters with similar sponsors (Mountain Dew) don’t seem to have that level of money. He has a 1/3 of the followers on IG that ishod or Reynolds or Daewon does, so it’s not like he’s internet famous or anything like that.
And you don’t know that he’s invested his money in anything or done anything like that so shut the fuck up.
2.You also don’t know if he’s invested his money or not.
3.What’s it to you how much money he has/ what he does with it?
4.Don’t jump to conclusions.
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It amazes my how little “slap” as a whole can understand money, how it works, how to work it, etc.
put us on then telly
No thanks. I enjoy reading it. I will say though it’s not as easy as judging someone by their car.
I believe I’ve heard josh Kalis (Kerry Getz? all you east coast white boys look the same to me)mention how many cars he bought. As I recall it was probably 6 figures on cars. I would be willing to bet my car that they would give all those memories of the cars back for 100(200?) thousand dollars having earned 10% interest for 10 years, or 20 years.
So theotis might have just bought his Bentley off some dividends, the principal of which is still chugging away for later in life.
Or a yacht. Nothing ostentatious, because he’s not trying to outdo anybody, he just wants a yacht. He and Reynolds will take it fishing. Most everybody will be welcome, but not dollin, who loves and respects theotis more than enough to even ask to go on the boat. He checked it out from the dock and headed back to the marina bar to hit on old women. He will make out with one. She will be gross, but he won’t actually ever focus in on her face so meh.
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It amazes my how little “slap” as a whole can understand money, how it works, how to work it, etc.
put us on then telly
No thanks. I enjoy reading it. I will say though it’s not as easy as judging someone by their car.
I believe I’ve heard josh Kalis (Kerry Getz? all you east coast white boys look the same to me)mention how many cars he bought. As I recall it was probably 6 figures on cars. I would be willing to bet my car that they would give all those memories of the cars back for 100(200?) thousand dollars having earned 10% interest for 10 years, or 20 years.
So theotis might have just bought his Bentley off some dividends, the principal of which is still chugging away for later in life.
Or a yacht. Nothing ostentatious, because he’s not trying to outdo anybody, he just wants a yacht. He and Reynolds will take it fishing. Most everybody will be welcome, but not dollin, who loves and respects theotis more than enough to even ask to go on the boat. He checked it out from the dock and headed back to the marina bar to hit on old women. He will make out with one. She will be gross, but he won’t actually ever focus in on her face so meh.
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would just like to chime in and say that if i could afford a Bentley, i'd love one thanks
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Saying MJ is top ten all time is a perfectly acceptable opinion
MJ seem like one of the most annoying pros around but always delivered on his video parts
He delivered so much, in fact, that I don’t give a shit if he’s annoying. Not my problem. Also, Theotis could drive a tractor and still be your friendly neighborhood tech manual guy. Wes Kremer sounds fried. Rips. Evan Smith? Very weird, and he’s killing it.
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Every Dunk sells out within minutes, depending on how many Nike is making is another issue. No way Adidas is making better sales with any of their shoes.
Just this week alone Nike dropping 4 Dunks on SNKRS. ( I really need those Carpet Company Dunks :'()
Adidas never will have the Hypebeast crowd for their skate shoes.
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/269599/net-sales-of-adidas-and-puma-worldwide/
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Bentleys are expensive, man, I’m often wrong but I find it hard to believe he was able to front a deposit and make payments off dividends and he has all his stupid clothes and handbags and shit to pay for, too
I realise housing is cheap in USA but still
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Man I liked you but fuck off as if you’re even an Australian
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Every Dunk sells out within minutes, depending on how many Nike is making is another issue. No way Adidas is making better sales with any of their shoes.
Just this week alone Nike dropping 4 Dunks on SNKRS. ( I really need those Carpet Company Dunks :'()
Adidas never will have the Hypebeast crowd for their skate shoes.
They had the Kanye hype for a while. Thought they were goofy looking as shit
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slap still scrutinizing the lifestyle of a pro loved by basically everyone except the weirdos here on Slap. in a thread not about him where he was just brought up because he's also black. Furthermore the aspiring financial analysts here can't figure out the math behind how the pro with the most sponsors ever at one time can afford a car and a house.
Again, the issue wasn’t that he afforded them or what he did with the money, but why a skater who was never considered notable talent-wise, but was seen as a good kid was making Bentley money when you’re average pro was making Honda money. It’s not specifically about Bentleys, that’s just a symbol for his rarefied levels of earnings he’s made as a skateboarder (which no one has a problem with).
It was/is a discussion on how skateboarding isn’t a meritocracy and how brands value riders because of what they bring to the table as well. I never knew personally what Theotis brought to the table outside of skateboarding. Just like I didn’t know what Brophy did. People are discussing it, sharing tidbits they know. It’s not some attack on anyone.
People are on Slap because they’re interested in skateboarding as an activity and as an industry. Perhaps I, like others, may not express questions/opinions I have as delicately as I could, but spend anytime on the boards beyond the past two weeks when you’ve been trying to stir up helter skelter and you’ll be able to tell the people who are trolls who bear ill-will and say shit just to be outrageous (you) and who are aren’t.
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Every Dunk sells out within minutes, depending on how many Nike is making is another issue. No way Adidas is making better sales with any of their shoes.
Just this week alone Nike dropping 4 Dunks on SNKRS. ( I really need those Carpet Company Dunks :'()
Adidas never will have the Hypebeast crowd for their skate shoes.
Which is why Adidas is the only one with a shred of dignity.
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slap still scrutinizing the lifestyle of a pro loved by basically everyone except the weirdos here on Slap. in a thread not about him where he was just brought up because he's also black. Furthermore the aspiring financial analysts here can't figure out the math behind how the pro with the most sponsors ever at one time can afford a car and a house.
Again, the issue wasn’t that he afforded them or what he did with the money, but why a skater who was never considered notable talent-wise, but was seen as a good kid was making Bentley money when you’re average pro was making Honda money. It’s not specifically about Bentleys, that’s just a symbol for his rarefied levels of earnings he’s made as a skateboarder (which no one has a problem with).
It was/is a discussion on how skateboarding isn’t a meritocracy and how brands value riders because of what they bring to the table as well. I never knew personally what Theotis brought to the table outside of skateboarding. Just like I didn’t know what Brophy did. People are discussing it, sharing tidbits they know. It’s not some attack on anyone.
People are on Slap because they’re interested in skateboarding as an activity and as an industry. Perhaps I, like others, may not express questions/opinions I have as delicately as I could, but spend anytime on the boards beyond the past two weeks when you’ve been trying to stir up helter skelter and you’ll be able to tell the people who are trolls who bear ill-will and say shit just to be outrageous (you) and who are aren’t.
how was he never considered notable skill-wise? theotis is on a similar level of tech skating skill as torey pudwill but with a better style. just watch his chronicles 2 part, i had that shit on repeat when i was 14. i'm sure it might not appeal to you, i kinda grew out of that too but i know for a fact that back then he was one of the top pros on baker next to herman and reynolds, pretty much all of my skate friends fucked with him, we bought baker boards because of him, we wore p-rod 6s because of him, we wore 5 panel hats because of him and as much as i wish that it wasn't true it's the kids like us then that decide what's cool and what's not cool in skateboarding. i just watched that whole video just to know that i'm not biased because of the nostalgia and that fucking banger of a lil wayne song but it still is the second best part of that whole video (ishod is 1st of course), it's just the fits and the pinchless crooked grinds that didn't age well. you just don't like his skating and that's ok, but the fact that YOU don't like it doesn't mean that it's objectively wack and that theotis isn't talented because he sure as fuck is. those average honda-driving pros you mentioned probably don't have the skill, personality and the marketability of theotis, that's why they're driving that beat up 1998 honda accord while theotis is flexing his bentley on insta.
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Every Dunk sells out within minutes, depending on how many Nike is making is another issue. No way Adidas is making better sales with any of their shoes.
Just this week alone Nike dropping 4 Dunks on SNKRS. ( I really need those Carpet Company Dunks :'()
Adidas never will have the Hypebeast crowd for their skate shoes.
Limited editions with 50/100 pairs and a lot of marketing around it. Sure, few pairs sells fast.
Superstars sells 100 around the world in munites.
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could warren buffett make another post about how interest rates exist? that was really enlightening who knew
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these big shoe cos know what they're doing business wise. I doubt Adidas skate is even worth it at all for Adidas. they don't have a dunk that people line up for or a janoski that was like the default skate shoe for over a decade. the last limited FA and last two Gonz Alohas are still at the shops and their "core" shoes can always be found at the outlet here for 30 dollars
I could totally see Adidas canceling their skate shop contracts and just selling online. but it also seems like the Adidas situation is very different in Europe and America.
IDK why Kader blew it with both Vans and Nike to try to get on Adidas. seem like an unwise career move . but I heard some weird stuff that he wanted Nike and Nike wanted him on but Supreme wanted him to stay on Vans due to some strategy with the VF acquisition and screwed his nike deal over at the manager/agent level. then it all blew up and now he's off everything and looking for sponsors
what source?
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Reynolds is the Ed Buck of skateboarding.
No I will not explain.
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Every Dunk sells out within minutes, depending on how many Nike is making is another issue. No way Adidas is making better sales with any of their shoes.
Just this week alone Nike dropping 4 Dunks on SNKRS. ( I really need those Carpet Company Dunks :'()
Adidas never will have the Hypebeast crowd for their skate shoes.
Which is why Adidas is the only one with a shred of dignity.
Nike never wanted to have dignity in the world of skateboarding, I think we all knew that from the jump.
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Every Dunk sells out within minutes, depending on how many Nike is making is another issue. No way Adidas is making better sales with any of their shoes.
Just this week alone Nike dropping 4 Dunks on SNKRS. ( I really need those Carpet Company Dunks :'()
Adidas never will have the Hypebeast crowd for their skate shoes.
They had the Kanye hype for a while. Thought they were goofy looking as shit
Kanye got goofy and fucked up his line. People still buy them, which is weird AF.
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Every Dunk sells out within minutes, depending on how many Nike is making is another issue. No way Adidas is making better sales with any of their shoes.
Just this week alone Nike dropping 4 Dunks on SNKRS. ( I really need those Carpet Company Dunks :'()
Adidas never will have the Hypebeast crowd for their skate shoes.
They had the Kanye hype for a while. Thought they were goofy looking as shit
Kanye got goofy and fucked up his line. People still buy them, which is weird AF.
Cos this isn't goofy
(https://i.ibb.co/JHjDQpd/Screenshot-20210310-180008.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GRQzTMJ)
Let's be honest they are all ultra goofy, power lame.
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slap still scrutinizing the lifestyle of a pro loved by basically everyone except the weirdos here on Slap. in a thread not about him where he was just brought up because he's also black. Furthermore the aspiring financial analysts here can't figure out the math behind how the pro with the most sponsors ever at one time can afford a car and a house.
Again, the issue wasn’t that he afforded them or what he did with the money, but why a skater who was never considered notable talent-wise, but was seen as a good kid was making Bentley money when you’re average pro was making Honda money. It’s not specifically about Bentleys, that’s just a symbol for his rarefied levels of earnings he’s made as a skateboarder (which no one has a problem with).
It was/is a discussion on how skateboarding isn’t a meritocracy and how brands value riders because of what they bring to the table as well. I never knew personally what Theotis brought to the table outside of skateboarding. Just like I didn’t know what Brophy did. People are discussing it, sharing tidbits they know. It’s not some attack on anyone.
People are on Slap because they’re interested in skateboarding as an activity and as an industry. Perhaps I, like others, may not express questions/opinions I have as delicately as I could, but spend anytime on the boards beyond the past two weeks when you’ve been trying to stir up helter skelter and you’ll be able to tell the people who are trolls who bear ill-will and say shit just to be outrageous (you) and who are aren’t.
how was he never considered notable skill-wise? theotis is on a similar level of tech skating skill as torey pudwill but with a better style. just watch his chronicles 2 part, i had that shit on repeat when i was 14. i'm sure it might not appeal to you, i kinda grew out of that too but i know for a fact that back then he was one of the top pros on baker next to herman and reynolds, pretty much all of my skate friends fucked with him, we bought baker boards because of him, we wore p-rod 6s because of him, we wore 5 panel hats because of him and as much as i wish that it wasn't true it's the kids like us then that decide what's cool and what's not cool in skateboarding. i just watched that whole video just to know that i'm not biased because of the nostalgia and that fucking banger of a lil wayne song but it still is the second best part of that whole video (ishod is 1st of course), it's just the fits and the pinchless crooked grinds that didn't age well. you just don't like his skating and that's ok, but the fact that YOU don't like it doesn't mean that it's objectively wack and that theotis isn't talented because he sure as fuck is. those average honda-driving pros you mentioned probably don't have the skill, personality and the marketability of theotis, that's why they're driving that beat up 1998 honda accord while theotis is flexing his bentley on insta.
Dude, come on
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Every Dunk sells out within minutes, depending on how many Nike is making is another issue. No way Adidas is making better sales with any of their shoes.
Just this week alone Nike dropping 4 Dunks on SNKRS. ( I really need those Carpet Company Dunks :'()
Adidas never will have the Hypebeast crowd for their skate shoes.
They had the Kanye hype for a while. Thought they were goofy looking as shit
Kanye got goofy and fucked up his line. People still buy them, which is weird AF.
Cos this isn't goofy
(https://i.ibb.co/JHjDQpd/Screenshot-20210310-180008.jpg) (https://ibb.co/GRQzTMJ)
Let's be honest they are all ultra goofy, power lame.
Goofy colorway, but the design of the shoe isn’t bad.
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these big shoe cos know what they're doing business wise. I doubt Adidas skate is even worth it at all for Adidas. they don't have a dunk that people line up for or a janoski that was like the default skate shoe for over a decade. the last limited FA and last two Gonz Alohas are still at the shops and their "core" shoes can always be found at the outlet here for 30 dollars
I could totally see Adidas canceling their skate shop contracts and just selling online. but it also seems like the Adidas situation is very different in Europe and America.
IDK why Kader blew it with both Vans and Nike to try to get on Adidas. seem like an unwise career move . but I heard some weird stuff that he wanted Nike and Nike wanted him on but Supreme wanted him to stay on Vans due to some strategy with the VF acquisition and screwed his nike deal over at the manager/agent level. then it all blew up and now he's off everything and looking for sponsors
I can tell you Adidas superstars sells more than both dunk and Janoski.
In Europe where I am from. Adidas would be the biggest seller too.
I mean an apt comparison is the superstar ADV, comparing standard superstars sales to janoski or SB dunks is apples and oranges. Personally I feel like Adidas skateboarding hits in waves, at certain times there's a huge push and I feel like everything I see Adidas related, but maybe it's just me. I feel like they've been pretty quiet since they supposedly dropped loads of shops, plus having videos delete off YouTube is a super weird strategy also. Nike are pretty damn constant when it comes to pushing this shit, plus they take little risk with new designs of shoes these days, everything is either a blazer, dunk, or court variation it seems. In my opinion Adidas have more interesting designs these days which I applaud, especially cause you can usually buy their shit without having to deal with a whole raffle + resale predicament that nike have created.
Its not apples to oranges. Skateboard program helped the trend of standards superstars cameback. Now you see them in
everywhere. I know that shoe is a timeless classic, but since 2010 they got a reboost. Adidas superstars is one of the biggest selling shoes ever, next to chuck taylors.
I really don't think skateboarding has much to do with shelltoes' "reboost." They've been "reboosted" since around 92. They're more a thing of hip-hop than skating. Same with Puma suedes. I would even go as far to say specifically breakdancing probably had/has contributed the most to their popularity. They just look good especially with coordinated fat laces. My teenage nieces own both shoes and know next to nothing of skating, they know more about breakin' and hip- hop from growing up with hip-hop parent....What's wild is both superstars and suede pumas used to be like $30 brand new and now they can go for as much as $80.
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Every Dunk sells out within minutes, depending on how many Nike is making is another issue. No way Adidas is making better sales with any of their shoes.
Just this week alone Nike dropping 4 Dunks on SNKRS. ( I really need those Carpet Company Dunks :'()
Adidas never will have the Hypebeast crowd for their skate shoes.
Limited editions with 50/100 pairs and a lot of marketing around it. Sure, few pairs sells fast.
Superstars sells 100 around the world in munites.
https://qz.com/1981810/a-nepotism-scandal-means-nike-must-rebuild-trust-with-sneakerheads/
"Bloomberg’s story featured reseller Joe Hebert, whose business West Coast Streetwear was able to make tens of thousands in profit on a single sneaker release. It noted his mother was Ann Hebert, who was then the vice president and general manager of Nike’s North American business."
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slap still scrutinizing the lifestyle of a pro loved by basically everyone except the weirdos here on Slap. in a thread not about him where he was just brought up because he's also black. Furthermore the aspiring financial analysts here can't figure out the math behind how the pro with the most sponsors ever at one time can afford a car and a house.
Again, the issue wasn’t that he afforded them or what he did with the money, but why a skater who was never considered notable talent-wise, but was seen as a good kid was making Bentley money when you’re average pro was making Honda money. It’s not specifically about Bentleys, that’s just a symbol for his rarefied levels of earnings he’s made as a skateboarder (which no one has a problem with).
It was/is a discussion on how skateboarding isn’t a meritocracy and how brands value riders because of what they bring to the table as well. I never knew personally what Theotis brought to the table outside of skateboarding. Just like I didn’t know what Brophy did. People are discussing it, sharing tidbits they know. It’s not some attack on anyone.
People are on Slap because they’re interested in skateboarding as an activity and as an industry. Perhaps I, like others, may not express questions/opinions I have as delicately as I could, but spend anytime on the boards beyond the past two weeks when you’ve been trying to stir up helter skelter and you’ll be able to tell the people who are trolls who bear ill-will and say shit just to be outrageous (you) and who are aren’t.
how was he never considered notable skill-wise? theotis is on a similar level of tech skating skill as torey pudwill but with a better style. just watch his chronicles 2 part, i had that shit on repeat when i was 14. i'm sure it might not appeal to you, i kinda grew out of that too but i know for a fact that back then he was one of the top pros on baker next to herman and reynolds, pretty much all of my skate friends fucked with him, we bought baker boards because of him, we wore p-rod 6s because of him, we wore 5 panel hats because of him and as much as i wish that it wasn't true it's the kids like us then that decide what's cool and what's not cool in skateboarding. i just watched that whole video just to know that i'm not biased because of the nostalgia and that fucking banger of a lil wayne song but it still is the second best part of that whole video (ishod is 1st of course), it's just the fits and the pinchless crooked grinds that didn't age well. you just don't like his skating and that's ok, but the fact that YOU don't like it doesn't mean that it's objectively wack and that theotis isn't talented because he sure as fuck is. those average honda-driving pros you mentioned probably don't have the skill, personality and the marketability of theotis, that's why they're driving that beat up 1998 honda accord while theotis is flexing his bentley on insta.
Theotis was considered notable talent-wise. This is clear with his early Nike/Baker/Mountain Dew sponsorships. He was really fucking good as a kid and showed a lot of promise. I just don't think he ever progressed past a certain point and didn't keep up with skateboarding's increasing talent level, as well as the way tricks were going. As has been mentioned before, he literally took any sponsor he could get. Most pros don't do that. When dumb corpo sponsors call they say no, either because they personally don't want to work with brands like that or don't want to appear to have sold out. Theotis doesn't seem to have those qualms and was willing to take those paycheques. I bet there are lots of pros that could be in his financial position if they were willing to sell-out in the way he did (no disrespect to him, get that money if you want it).
To say that Theotis is comparable to T-puds is a joke right? I'm not a big Torey fan, but he was on some next-level tech shit around that time. Theotis was a really talented kid skater. Torey was doing shit, like it or not, that was basically NBD.
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Yall are comparing limited overhyped sneakers with regular shoes. Apples to oranges.
It's apples to apples.... you know there are different types of apples right? I've only heard of 3 of them.
(https://images.heb.com/is/image/HEBGrocery/article/apple-guide-apple-tart-chart.jpg)
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slap still scrutinizing the lifestyle of a pro loved by basically everyone except the weirdos here on Slap. in a thread not about him where he was just brought up because he's also black. Furthermore the aspiring financial analysts here can't figure out the math behind how the pro with the most sponsors ever at one time can afford a car and a house.
Again, the issue wasn’t that he afforded them or what he did with the money, but why a skater who was never considered notable talent-wise, but was seen as a good kid was making Bentley money when you’re average pro was making Honda money. It’s not specifically about Bentleys, that’s just a symbol for his rarefied levels of earnings he’s made as a skateboarder (which no one has a problem with).
It was/is a discussion on how skateboarding isn’t a meritocracy and how brands value riders because of what they bring to the table as well. I never knew personally what Theotis brought to the table outside of skateboarding. Just like I didn’t know what Brophy did. People are discussing it, sharing tidbits they know. It’s not some attack on anyone.
People are on Slap because they’re interested in skateboarding as an activity and as an industry. Perhaps I, like others, may not express questions/opinions I have as delicately as I could, but spend anytime on the boards beyond the past two weeks when you’ve been trying to stir up helter skelter and you’ll be able to tell the people who are trolls who bear ill-will and say shit just to be outrageous (you) and who are aren’t.
how was he never considered notable skill-wise? theotis is on a similar level of tech skating skill as torey pudwill but with a better style. just watch his chronicles 2 part, i had that shit on repeat when i was 14. i'm sure it might not appeal to you, i kinda grew out of that too but i know for a fact that back then he was one of the top pros on baker next to herman and reynolds, pretty much all of my skate friends fucked with him, we bought baker boards because of him, we wore p-rod 6s because of him, we wore 5 panel hats because of him and as much as i wish that it wasn't true it's the kids like us then that decide what's cool and what's not cool in skateboarding. i just watched that whole video just to know that i'm not biased because of the nostalgia and that fucking banger of a lil wayne song but it still is the second best part of that whole video (ishod is 1st of course), it's just the fits and the pinchless crooked grinds that didn't age well. you just don't like his skating and that's ok, but the fact that YOU don't like it doesn't mean that it's objectively wack and that theotis isn't talented because he sure as fuck is. those average honda-driving pros you mentioned probably don't have the skill, personality and the marketability of theotis, that's why they're driving that beat up 1998 honda accord while theotis is flexing his bentley on insta.
Theotis was considered notable talent-wise. This is clear with his early Nike/Baker/Mountain Dew sponsorships. He was really fucking good as a kid and showed a lot of promise. I just don't think he ever progressed past a certain point and didn't keep up with skateboarding's increasing talent level, as well as the way tricks were going. As has been mentioned before, he literally took any sponsor he could get. Most pros don't do that. When dumb corpo sponsors call they say no, either because they personally don't want to work with brands like that or don't want to appear to have sold out. Theotis doesn't seem to have those qualms and was willing to take those paycheques. I bet there are lots of pros that could be in his financial position if they were willing to sell-out in the way he did (no disrespect to him, get that money if you want it).
To say that Theotis is comparable to T-puds is a joke right? I'm not a big Torey fan, but he was on some next-level tech shit around that time. Theotis was a really talented kid skater. Torey was doing shit, like it or not, that was basically NBD.
Look it’s been almost 10 years so it’s hazy, but wasn’t Theotis notable because he was good for his age? He was never seen one of the best flat out. But even being a mid-tier isn’t as disparaging as people think. Even on of the worst players in the NBA is likely in the top 300 players on earth. He’s got talent, all the sponsors might have stemmed the hunger/need to push himself, but he’s a solid mid-video part skater
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slap still scrutinizing the lifestyle of a pro loved by basically everyone except the weirdos here on Slap. in a thread not about him where he was just brought up because he's also black. Furthermore the aspiring financial analysts here can't figure out the math behind how the pro with the most sponsors ever at one time can afford a car and a house.
Again, the issue wasn’t that he afforded them or what he did with the money, but why a skater who was never considered notable talent-wise, but was seen as a good kid was making Bentley money when you’re average pro was making Honda money. It’s not specifically about Bentleys, that’s just a symbol for his rarefied levels of earnings he’s made as a skateboarder (which no one has a problem with).
It was/is a discussion on how skateboarding isn’t a meritocracy and how brands value riders because of what they bring to the table as well. I never knew personally what Theotis brought to the table outside of skateboarding. Just like I didn’t know what Brophy did. People are discussing it, sharing tidbits they know. It’s not some attack on anyone.
People are on Slap because they’re interested in skateboarding as an activity and as an industry. Perhaps I, like others, may not express questions/opinions I have as delicately as I could, but spend anytime on the boards beyond the past two weeks when you’ve been trying to stir up helter skelter and you’ll be able to tell the people who are trolls who bear ill-will and say shit just to be outrageous (you) and who are aren’t.
how was he never considered notable skill-wise? theotis is on a similar level of tech skating skill as torey pudwill but with a better style. just watch his chronicles 2 part, i had that shit on repeat when i was 14. i'm sure it might not appeal to you, i kinda grew out of that too but i know for a fact that back then he was one of the top pros on baker next to herman and reynolds, pretty much all of my skate friends fucked with him, we bought baker boards because of him, we wore p-rod 6s because of him, we wore 5 panel hats because of him and as much as i wish that it wasn't true it's the kids like us then that decide what's cool and what's not cool in skateboarding. i just watched that whole video just to know that i'm not biased because of the nostalgia and that fucking banger of a lil wayne song but it still is the second best part of that whole video (ishod is 1st of course), it's just the fits and the pinchless crooked grinds that didn't age well. you just don't like his skating and that's ok, but the fact that YOU don't like it doesn't mean that it's objectively wack and that theotis isn't talented because he sure as fuck is. those average honda-driving pros you mentioned probably don't have the skill, personality and the marketability of theotis, that's why they're driving that beat up 1998 honda accord while theotis is flexing his bentley on insta.
Theotis was considered notable talent-wise. This is clear with his early Nike/Baker/Mountain Dew sponsorships. He was really fucking good as a kid and showed a lot of promise. I just don't think he ever progressed past a certain point and didn't keep up with skateboarding's increasing talent level, as well as the way tricks were going. As has been mentioned before, he literally took any sponsor he could get. Most pros don't do that. When dumb corpo sponsors call they say no, either because they personally don't want to work with brands like that or don't want to appear to have sold out. Theotis doesn't seem to have those qualms and was willing to take those paycheques. I bet there are lots of pros that could be in his financial position if they were willing to sell-out in the way he did (no disrespect to him, get that money if you want it).
To say that Theotis is comparable to T-puds is a joke right? I'm not a big Torey fan, but he was on some next-level tech shit around that time. Theotis was a really talented kid skater. Torey was doing shit, like it or not, that was basically NBD.
i'm not even hating man, big bang was one of the first video parts i've ever seen, i used to watch that shit all the time when i was 11 or 12. i'm sure torey did some ledge tricks that theotis probably couldn't do, but then again i'm sure theotis did some manual tricks that torey probably couldn't do. both manuals and ledge combos are considered tech skating but i could have been more precise with my wording.
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At this point I hope kader is trolling this thread lmao, but honestly he probably has better things to do than browse a thread with a bunch of racists over analyzing his 400IQ business decisions
https://i.imgur.com/lFSu6nS.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/lFSu6nS.jpg)
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At this point I hope kader is trolling this thread lmao, but honestly he probably has better things to do than browse a thread with a bunch of racists over analyzing his 400IQ business decisions
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Wait a minute....is that story post for real? Is he actually trying to sell that truck already?
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At this point I hope kader is trolling this thread lmao, but honestly he probably has better things to do than browse a thread with a bunch of racists over analyzing his 400IQ business decisions
https://i.imgur.com/lFSu6nS.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/lFSu6nS.jpg)
Wait a minute....is that story post for real? Is he actually trying to sell that truck already?
following this kid is gonna give me an ulcer
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At this point I hope kader is trolling this thread lmao, but honestly he probably has better things to do than browse a thread with a bunch of racists over analyzing his 400IQ business decisions
https://i.imgur.com/lFSu6nS.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/lFSu6nS.jpg)
Wait a minute....is that story post for real? Is he actually trying to sell that truck already?
following this kid is gonna give me an ulcer
Right? he should be leasing
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these big shoe cos know what they're doing business wise. I doubt Adidas skate is even worth it at all for Adidas. they don't have a dunk that people line up for or a janoski that was like the default skate shoe for over a decade. the last limited FA and last two Gonz Alohas are still at the shops and their "core" shoes can always be found at the outlet here for 30 dollars
I could totally see Adidas canceling their skate shop contracts and just selling online. but it also seems like the Adidas situation is very different in Europe and America.
IDK why Kader blew it with both Vans and Nike to try to get on Adidas. seem like an unwise career move . but I heard some weird stuff that he wanted Nike and Nike wanted him on but Supreme wanted him to stay on Vans due to some strategy with the VF acquisition and screwed his nike deal over at the manager/agent level. then it all blew up and now he's off everything and looking for sponsors
I can tell you Adidas superstars sells more than both dunk and Janoski.
Yeah, it's really wild to read this. Adidas made gigantic strides over the past two decades, and is now absolutely Nike's biggest rival. I don't think Nike's losing sleep, but adidas went from like $3b/year in revenue in 2000 to $14b in 2019. I wouldn't bet on it, but I also will not be remotely surprised if Adidas overtakes Nike before 2030
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kader rules i love this kid
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Reynolds is the Ed Buck of skateboarding.
No I will not explain.
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This shit is too fucking funny. Best dude In skating. He hit his GT-like growth spurt and it’s about to be a wrap unless he just straight quits. Dudes too sick
Free max b
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He keeps going live on IG and not saying a word and it’s hilarious.
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At this point I hope kader is trolling this thread lmao, but honestly he probably has better things to do than browse a thread with a bunch of racists over analyzing his 400IQ business decisions
https://i.imgur.com/lFSu6nS.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/lFSu6nS.jpg)
Free max b
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Exactly Pete knows what’s good. I don’t understand how ppl don’t realize Kader is constantly trolling. I swear half you guys have a 70 iq
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Reynolds is the Ed Buck of skateboarding.
No I will not explain.
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At this point I hope kader is trolling this thread lmao, but honestly he probably has better things to do than browse a thread with a bunch of racists over analyzing his 400IQ business decisions
https://i.imgur.com/lFSu6nS.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/lFSu6nS.jpg)
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Dude is probably laughing his ass off reading threads like this and going live with a bunch of retards trying to sneak into his life.
Imagine being his age and getting this much attention, you'd probably do the same and just troll everybody nonstop
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TL:DR is he on adidas or not?
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TL:DR is he on adidas or not?
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YES. He is on ///. Trust
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Kader is rad. He can do as he pleases. Corporations are just rungs in a ladder. Fuck em , use em, utilize them to propel yourself.
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Nike lagged on the contract for months adidas swooped in and made the offer. End of thread
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I don’t care what he looks better in, I just want to know his feet are comfortable.
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I didn’t get inception.
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I'm getting a lot of heel lift in Adidas lately, so I'm heading back to Nike full time. The empire will not collapse w/o Kader.
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