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Title: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: Baby on Board on November 20, 2020, 09:41:04 PM
https://instagram.com/stories/ryan_lay/2446871069606260385?igshid=1kvzlkiy2fne7

Lay is sick, where’s he gonna end up? Vans would be weird. State would be kinda tight.

Edit: for anyone not on IG he’s skating what looks like old schools or Kyle walkers first shoe on his story
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: MareVitals on November 20, 2020, 10:09:27 PM
Welp there goes the only dude I cared about on etnies. State would be cool.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: Ed boy on November 20, 2020, 10:09:30 PM
He's been of Etnies for a while now

Not sure what his situation with Vans is but I could see them getting behind him and that Skate After School program he runs

He's an incredible skateboarder who deserves a steady check and Kader just free'd up some of their team budget ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: alraunen on November 20, 2020, 11:43:07 PM
He’s been of since last year, getting mostly vans but I seen him riding the cupsole state shoes too.

I think Vans should make the move, Ryan is great on and off the wall board.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: Baby on Board on November 20, 2020, 11:45:28 PM
He’s been of since last year, getting mostly vans but I seen him riding the cupsole state shoes too.

I think Vans should make the move, Ryan is great on and off the wall board.

That’s crazy. Pretty sure he had some etnies on for that NY trip Krux just took with a couple riders. Can’t believe he’s been off that long. Etnies should just can it and have Emerica/es under sole tech
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: alraunen on November 21, 2020, 12:43:04 AM
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He’s been of since last year, getting mostly vans but I seen him riding the cupsole state shoes too.

I think Vans should make the move, Ryan is great on and off the wall board.
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That’s crazy. Pretty sure he had some etnies on for that NY trip Krux just took with a couple riders. Can’t believe he’s been off that long. Etnies should just can it and have Emerica/es under sole tech

I think he was riding the States Pacifica during the Krux NY trip -> https://ibb.co/XZWvPMy
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: Baby on Board on November 21, 2020, 12:47:48 AM
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He’s been of since last year, getting mostly vans but I seen him riding the cupsole state shoes too.

I think Vans should make the move, Ryan is great on and off the wall board.
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That’s crazy. Pretty sure he had some etnies on for that NY trip Krux just took with a couple riders. Can’t believe he’s been off that long. Etnies should just can it and have Emerica/es under sole tech
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I think he was riding the States Pacifica during the Krux NY trip -> https://ibb.co/XZWvPMy

Ah shit you right! Those are states for sure. Damn that would be tight.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on November 21, 2020, 01:53:00 AM
His been off for a good minute now.
Also rocking suede vans which seems like a bit of an identity crisis. I was messaging him a while back and he was like, “I can’t find a good vegan shoes, let alone a shoe I like to skate, so I’m just rocking these.”
I sent him like 6 different ideas for good vegan skate shoes in 2020 (non sole-tech too cuz it doesn’t look like it ended well with them) and he seemed genuinely stoked but it still just rocking those vans, maybe they sent him a tonne of boxes? Bit of a cop out really; I’m sure if he told vans he was vegan, they’d be happy to accommodate his request.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: ok boomer on November 21, 2020, 04:18:39 AM
Could see him on Gallaz
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on November 21, 2020, 05:33:28 AM
Carriuma makes a vegan shoe. Maybe he can hitch his wagon to that star. When has Mike V. ever been wrong?!
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: Lowcalcium on November 21, 2020, 06:32:50 AM
He's been of Etnies for a while now

Not sure what his situation with Vans is but I could see them getting behind him and that Skate After School program he runs

He's an incredible skateboarder who deserves a steady check and Kader just free'd up some of their team budget ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The Skate After School program is so dope... Ryan Lay is gnarly on the board and off the board.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: Roger Mexico on November 21, 2020, 08:05:22 AM
Ryan's rad. Have been really enjoying his "Give me a trick to do" stories on instagram. Totally agree that it would be super sick if he ended up on state.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: johnes on November 21, 2020, 08:12:42 AM
Ryan deserves a shoe pay check for sure.
Hope gets one or is getting one.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: DirtyBurger on November 21, 2020, 08:14:57 AM
Ryan Lay deserves all the sponsors. As sad as it is to say, he's pretty much the last good thing Arizona has going for it.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: michael scarn on November 21, 2020, 09:02:37 AM
He's been off etnies for a while now.

He's not getting another shoe sponsor. He's one of those rare pros that actually has a life outside of pro skateboarding and he's at that age where he probably doesn't want to sign another contract.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: professional on November 21, 2020, 10:15:50 AM
Ryan rips, has a good heart and works on interesting, socially-driven projects like Skate After School as well as with SkatePAL. I understand the skateboard industry is driven on connections and one's instagram reach, but the fact Etnies/another shoe company is not interested in a skater of character and personal substance like Ryan is so bizarre to me.

That said, past interviews of his point to his awareness of how fickle the skateboard industry is and I imagine he will be just fine and keep pushing projects that matter. Looking forward to his next part, whenever that is.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: lk130 on November 21, 2020, 10:52:26 AM
State or Ipath
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: Murge on November 21, 2020, 01:16:34 PM
Ryan on state would be perfect
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: moonordie on November 21, 2020, 01:43:36 PM
He's been off etnies for a while now.

He's not getting another shoe sponsor. He's one of those rare pros that actually has a life outside of pro skateboarding and he's at that age where he probably doesn't want to sign another contract.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: REGS on November 21, 2020, 02:11:57 PM
Ryan deserves a shoe pay check for sure.
Hope gets one or is getting one.

He had a Solo Magazine interview recently where he basically concedes that skateboarding for a living is over, and he talks about how he's approaching things moving forward.

> https://soloskatemag.com/en/ryan-lay-finding-the-right-thing

What is your job there [at Skate After School]?
I work with the board of directors, I handle all the fundraising, marketing, photo stuff, managing the budget, making sure that we’re on track with our annual goals. Most of the time when I’m at the program I’m filming, shooting photos or working on creative projects. It’s a lot of fun. I realized during the first few years, as much as I love working for kids, I don’t necessarily have the temperament to handle 30 screaming kids that just got out of school. [laughs]

Is this your career plan for the time after skateboarding?
In a lot of ways, I am moving into the after already. I’ll probably become a full-time staff member at some point this year. I haven’t had a lot of stability with skating in the past, so I’ve worked hard to transition into this and skate when I can.

What does “not much stability” mean?
To put it clearly, I don’t make a living with skateboarding, [laughs] and now I’m in my early thirties. I love skating, I had great opportunities and I continue to work on projects I’m into, like this interview, but I also realized that, at a certain point, you have to make some calculations. There are also other things out there I want to do and accomplish. I’m really excited for this next stage in my life and thankful to have sponsors that are on board with it, but it’s hard in skating right now, there’s not much of a middle class. There are a lot of income disparities and inequalities, just like in every other industry. There are people who have shoe deals with the big brands and they make a decent living. For everyone else, it’s kind of hollowed out.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: oyolar on November 21, 2020, 03:30:12 PM
His been off for a good minute now.
Also rocking suede vans which seems like a bit of an identity crisis. I was messaging him a while back and he was like, “I can’t find a good vegan shoes, let alone a shoe I like to skate, so I’m just rocking these.”
I sent him like 6 different ideas for good vegan skate shoes in 2020 (non sole-tech too cuz it doesn’t look like it ended well with them) and he seemed genuinely stoked but it still just rocking those vans, maybe they sent him a tonne of boxes? Bit of a cop out really; I’m sure if he told vans he was vegan, they’d be happy to accommodate his request.

Ryan is sick and it’s well known he’s vegan so if they didn’t give enough of a shit to send him all vegan shoes initially, I doubt they’ll care enough to do it if he asks nicely, especially since he’s not fully on the team or probably on anything more than friendly flow/helping someone out.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: lk130 on November 21, 2020, 04:13:09 PM
First of all he was one of the first people in the Filmbot Files
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: irunknee on November 21, 2020, 07:12:41 PM
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Ryan deserves a shoe pay check for sure.
Hope gets one or is getting one.
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He had a Solo Magazine interview recently where he basically concedes that skateboarding for a living is over, and he talks about how he's approaching things moving forward.

> https://soloskatemag.com/en/ryan-lay-finding-the-right-thing

What is your job there [at Skate After School]?
I work with the board of directors, I handle all the fundraising, marketing, photo stuff, managing the budget, making sure that we’re on track with our annual goals. Most of the time when I’m at the program I’m filming, shooting photos or working on creative projects. It’s a lot of fun. I realized during the first few years, as much as I love working for kids, I don’t necessarily have the temperament to handle 30 screaming kids that just got out of school. [laughs]

Is this your career plan for the time after skateboarding?
In a lot of ways, I am moving into the after already. I’ll probably become a full-time staff member at some point this year. I haven’t had a lot of stability with skating in the past, so I’ve worked hard to transition into this and skate when I can.

What does “not much stability” mean?
To put it clearly, I don’t make a living with skateboarding, [laughs] and now I’m in my early thirties. I love skating, I had great opportunities and I continue to work on projects I’m into, like this interview, but I also realized that, at a certain point, you have to make some calculations. There are also other things out there I want to do and accomplish. I’m really excited for this next stage in my life and thankful to have sponsors that are on board with it, but it’s hard in skating right now, there’s not much of a middle class. There are a lot of income disparities and inequalities, just like in every other industry. There are people who have shoe deals with the big brands and they make a decent living. For everyone else, it’s kind of hollowed out.

Further confirms the obvious suspicions. Only 2% of pro's and am's are making a decent living. The rest, w/o a Nike, Adidas, Vans, or RedBull/Monster contract, must be getting by in California on what 30k/year with minimal health insurance? And that's only going to last 5-8 years?
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: Sold Out on November 21, 2020, 07:14:59 PM
Could see him on last resort
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on November 21, 2020, 08:03:05 PM
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His been off for a good minute now.
Also rocking suede vans which seems like a bit of an identity crisis. I was messaging him a while back and he was like, “I can’t find a good vegan shoes, let alone a shoe I like to skate, so I’m just rocking these.”
I sent him like 6 different ideas for good vegan skate shoes in 2020 (non sole-tech too cuz it doesn’t look like it ended well with them) and he seemed genuinely stoked but it still just rocking those vans, maybe they sent him a tonne of boxes? Bit of a cop out really; I’m sure if he told vans he was vegan, they’d be happy to accommodate his request.
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Ryan is sick and it’s well known he’s vegan so if they didn’t give enough of a shit to send him all vegan shoes initially, I doubt they’ll care enough to do it if he asks nicely, especially since he’s not fully on the team or probably on anything more than friendly flow/helping someone out.
then that really sucks, I told him to just go and buy some NB# 420s, best vegan cupsole out at the moment. If he doesn’t get on state I could actually see him on NB#
@rothdigga send him some 420s!
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: pizzafliptofakie on November 21, 2020, 08:04:49 PM
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He’s been of since last year, getting mostly vans but I seen him riding the cupsole state shoes too.

I think Vans should make the move, Ryan is great on and off the wall board.
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That’s crazy. Pretty sure he had some etnies on for that NY trip Krux just took with a couple riders. Can’t believe he’s been off that long. Etnies should just can it and have Emerica/es under sole tech


"Coolness" aside, there's no earthly way that eS is doing better as a brand than Etnies.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: straight on November 21, 2020, 08:20:39 PM
he’s so fucking good at skateboarding it’s not fair
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: Owen on November 21, 2020, 08:31:50 PM
Ryan's rad. Have been really enjoying his "Give me a trick to do" stories on instagram. Totally agree that it would be super sick if he ended up on state.

This is seriously impressive. Ryan can do anything on a board
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on November 21, 2020, 09:42:34 PM
he’s so fucking good at skateboarding it’s not fair
what’s worse is that he should be a millionaire but instead rides for welcome and Krux ψ(`∇´)ψ
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: oyolar on November 21, 2020, 09:45:08 PM
Welcome was (is?) doing well so I hope they can at least support him somewhat. It's obviously not enough to be a full-time pro but I hope it's better than nothing.

I'd buy a bunch of his pro models if they were on a shape with a more rounded tail just to show how neat I think his work is.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: urbneathme on November 21, 2020, 11:13:40 PM
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He’s been of since last year, getting mostly vans but I seen him riding the cupsole state shoes too.

I think Vans should make the move, Ryan is great on and off the wall board.
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That’s crazy. Pretty sure he had some etnies on for that NY trip Krux just took with a couple riders. Can’t believe he’s been off that long. Etnies should just can it and have Emerica/es under sole tech
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"Coolness" aside, there's no earthly way that eS is doing better as a brand than Etnies.
etnies is probably doing better than emerica i would guess
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on November 22, 2020, 01:58:02 AM
I don’t hate welcome per se BUT he deserves better. And yes, I’d be happy to buy some his boards but the wheelbase is ridics for street (but that makes him even more talented)
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: Dorje Drolo on November 22, 2020, 08:29:26 AM
Welcome was (is?) doing well so I hope they can at least support him somewhat. It's obviously not enough to be a full-time pro but I hope it's better than nothing.

I'd buy a bunch of his pro models if they were on a shape with a more rounded tail just to show how neat I think his work is.

I have never understood this. I get it Welcome is the shaped deck brand but majority of people ride popsicles so add a some to the line and gain way further reach for your brand. I dig Welcome and have wanted to skate their decks a few times and pass for this reason.

Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: Dorje Drolo on November 22, 2020, 08:40:38 AM
As far as Lay's kick situation let's throw Simple a bone and link them up.  ;D  After being on Etnies roster for so long not a lot of options. Lay rips so hopefully something pans out.
Title: Re: Ryan Lay of Etnies
Post by: HombreezysShittyPasta on November 24, 2020, 11:12:57 AM
Cariuma wayward son. Dont you cry no more