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I work at a skateshop and we cycle through dlx wood pretty fast, a month or so ago I mesured a 8.5 anti-hero and noticed it was an exact 8.38. Thinking this was just a mis-sand I tried a bunch more and noticed the same thing. I have probably mesured like 40 anti-hero, krooked and real decks since them and nearly every one has been off 1/8 to 1/16. This problem is mostly with 8.5 but I have noticed it with every size basically. If you dont beleive me mesure one! Our skateshop is in Canada but I dont think that would make a difference. Maybe this is just a sanding problem with the newer post covid dxl boards, did they fuck up trying to keep up with demand and pump them out too quick? I would be kinda pissed if I have 149s sticking out on board that was supposed to be a 8.5. Anyways I still only skate dlx boards and love the shapes, just gotta remember to double check em!
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I work at a skateshop and we cycle through dlx wood pretty fast, a month or so ago I mesured a 8.5 anti-hero and noticed it was an exact 8.38. Thinking this was just a mis-sand I tried a bunch more and noticed the same thing. I have probably mesured like 40 anti-hero, krooked and real decks since them and nearly every one has been off 1/8 to 1/16. This problem is mostly with 8.5 but I have noticed it with every size basically. If you dont beleive me mesure one! Our skateshop is in Canada but I dont think that would make a difference. Maybe this is just a sanding problem with the newer post covid dxl boards, did they fuck up trying to keep up with demand and pump them out too quick? I would be kinda pissed if I have 149s sticking out on board that was supposed to be a 8.5. Anyways I still only skate dlx boards and love the shapes, just gotta remember to double check em!
I feel like this is an answer you can give us. Have the owner/whoever is in charge of purchasing to email/call your dlx sales rep.
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I work at a skateshop and we cycle through dlx wood pretty fast, a month or so ago I mesured a 8.5 anti-hero and noticed it was an exact 8.38. Thinking this was just a mis-sand I tried a bunch more and noticed the same thing. I have probably mesured like 40 anti-hero, krooked and real decks since them and nearly every one has been off 1/8 to 1/16. This problem is mostly with 8.5 but I have noticed it with every size basically. If you dont beleive me mesure one! Our skateshop is in Canada but I dont think that would make a difference. Maybe this is just a sanding problem with the newer post covid dxl boards, did they fuck up trying to keep up with demand and pump them out too quick? I would be kinda pissed if I have 149s sticking out on board that was supposed to be a 8.5. Anyways I still only skate dlx boards and love the shapes, just gotta remember to double check em!
I didn't check, but maybe you or someone else brought this up in the DLX Shapes thread, with pics of the For Lovers series a while back.
Might just be me, but I have found them always to be bigger for the most part, and my 8.38s on Indy 149s are a perfect fit, but they are also pretty much the same as 8.5 from some other brands, so I am happy either way.
The Full boards were always so much bigger it would seem too, again not a worry as I liked that.
Found the thread and link here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.msg3412452#msg3412452
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I work at a skateshop and we cycle through dlx wood pretty fast, a month or so ago I mesured a 8.5 anti-hero and noticed it was an exact 8.38. Thinking this was just a mis-sand I tried a bunch more and noticed the same thing. I have probably mesured like 40 anti-hero, krooked and real decks since them and nearly every one has been off 1/8 to 1/16. This problem is mostly with 8.5 but I have noticed it with every size basically. If you dont beleive me mesure one! Our skateshop is in Canada but I dont think that would make a difference. Maybe this is just a sanding problem with the newer post covid dxl boards, did they fuck up trying to keep up with demand and pump them out too quick? I would be kinda pissed if I have 149s sticking out on board that was supposed to be a 8.5. Anyways I still only skate dlx boards and love the shapes, just gotta remember to double check em!
I didn't check, but maybe you or someone else brought this up in the DLX Shapes thread, with pics of the For Lovers series a while back.
Might just be me, but I have found them always to be bigger for the most part, and my 8.38s on Indy 149s are a perfect fit, but they are also pretty much the same as 8.5 from some other brands, so I am happy either way.
The Full boards were always so much bigger it would seem too, again not a worry as I liked that.
Found the thread and link here:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.msg3412452#msg3412452
It was me who shared the pics. It was an “8.4” shape that actually measured 8.30. Consistently too throughout our stock. Too bad both of those I bought broke easily second session.
Also, I ride 8.25 and 8.38 decks and 149’s and my trucks don’t stick out. I know they say the axle is 8.5 but it sure doesn’t seem like it. Looks perfectly flush on the 8.25 and skinnier than the 8.38.
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It was me who shared the pics. It was an “8.4” shape that actually measured 8.30. Consistently too throughout our stock. Too bad both of those I bought broke easily second session.
Also, I ride 8.25 and 8.38 decks and 149’s and my trucks don’t stick out. I know they say the axle is 8.5 but it sure doesn’t seem like it. Looks perfectly flush on the 8.25 and skinnier than the 8.38.
That's right, the board breaking struggle!!!
I am going to set up a fresh (post covid) 8.38 eagle as soon as it arrives, so it will be interesting to see if there are any differences between this one and the other ones I had prior to covid, in shape, feel, and how the wood is too.
Even when I have lined up in a stack (back to back, all on their sides) about ten of the 8.25 assorted DLX boards, there are some that stick out more and some less, which I always found interesting, because when I did the same with about ten of another BBS supplier, they were all identical, exact specs, almost exactly the same concave, no differences in width, etc.
Funny to think about it but I don't lose sleep over it.
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I work at a skateshop and we cycle through dlx wood pretty fast, a month or so ago I mesured a 8.5 anti-hero and noticed it was an exact 8.38. Thinking this was just a mis-sand I tried a bunch more and noticed the same thing. I have probably mesured like 40 anti-hero, krooked and real decks since them and nearly every one has been off 1/8 to 1/16. This problem is mostly with 8.5 but I have noticed it with every size basically. If you dont beleive me mesure one! Our skateshop is in Canada but I dont think that would make a difference. Maybe this is just a sanding problem with the newer post covid dxl boards, did they fuck up trying to keep up with demand and pump them out too quick? I would be kinda pissed if I have 149s sticking out on board that was supposed to be a 8.5. Anyways I still only skate dlx boards and love the shapes, just gotta remember to double check em!
I was just thinking about the size, but checking if you also measured wheelbase? So I wonder if the 8.5 x 32.25 with 14.38 wheelbase were actually the 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wheelbase or something like that, or the 8.4 x 32 with 14.25 wheelbase, which is becoming more popular and was a really good size and shape to ride for me. I just don't like the 8.5 x 31.8 with 14.25 wheelbase as I find the tail is too short. That is on me though and I know lots of people want that board.
Some I had were definitely mis stickered and I was stoked to have a whole graphic run of boards in a size I really wanted, so I tucked them away and didn't sell any.
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Mesured a bunch of wheelbases (14.25,14.38 & 14.5) and they were all dead on. Im sure there drillpress is set precisely (that would be super sloppy craftmanship if not). Pretty sure the dlx Canadian rep is Wade Fyfe (also a legend btw) I may have to hit him up. Nearly every other board brand/woodshop I mesure its quite acurate with the widths so I was pretty suprised about dlx shapes because I always assumed there stuff is top notch. I skated a ton of there stuff over the years and never found they broke that easy, also heavily back thunder and spitfire and never had problems
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Mesured a bunch of wheelbases (14.25,14.38 & 14.5) and they were all dead on. Im sure there drillpress is set precisely (that would be super sloppy craftmanship if not). Pretty sure the dlx Canadian rep is Wade Fyfe (also a legend btw) I may have to hit him up. Nearly every other board brand/woodshop I mesure its quite acurate with the widths so I was pretty suprised about dlx shapes because I always assumed there stuff is top notch. I skated a ton of there stuff over the years and never found they broke that easy, also heavily back thunder and spitfire and never had problems
Definitely not the issue with the drill press, more just the 8.38 might have been labeled as the 8.5 or something, but as you said, if the rest of the specs from the sticker matched the deck, then someone might have been a bit too keen doing the edge work and sanded a mm or two off more than they should have.
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I just got an email back from DLX about my string of brand new snapped boards. Strangely, he asked me for all the info I clearly included in my original email, but they want photos so I guess I’ll just write it all out again. Hope they don’t mind that I removed the graphic on both the Anti Hero decks, lol. Fingers crossed they hook it up somehow. That was $190 down the drain real quick.
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my usual eagle chipped all to fuck second sesh
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Fact. The 8.5s have NEVER been a true 8.5, always an 8.38. The 8.25 and 8.38s are usually spot on. The 8.06. 8.28, and 8.4 have all been narrower, too.
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I have a real donnelley praying fingers 8.25 full se that measures 8.38. Doesn't have a roman numeral stamp on the top either
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I have a real donnelley praying fingers 8.25 full se that measures 8.38. Doesn't have a roman numeral stamp on the top either
I have that same board (haven't set it up yet cause I don't want to snap another new board, mine has the numeral - it's a 1), and it's just shy of 8 3/8. I find most DLX 8.25's are usually around that size.
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I work at a skateshop and we cycle through dlx wood pretty fast, a month or so ago I mesured a 8.5 anti-hero and noticed it was an exact 8.38. Thinking this was just a mis-sand I tried a bunch more and noticed the same thing. I have probably mesured like 40 anti-hero, krooked and real decks since them and nearly every one has been off 1/8 to 1/16. This problem is mostly with 8.5 but I have noticed it with every size basically. If you dont beleive me mesure one! Our skateshop is in Canada but I dont think that would make a difference. Maybe this is just a sanding problem with the newer post covid dxl boards, did they fuck up trying to keep up with demand and pump them out too quick? I would be kinda pissed if I have 149s sticking out on board that was supposed to be a 8.5. Anyways I still only skate dlx boards and love the shapes, just gotta remember to double check em!
I don't know man. But according to trump the democrats must be the ones behind it.
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I like to ride the 8.5 x 31.8 14.25 wb dlx shape and the wb has always appeared to measure a bit small. I even saw online a shop had the wb as 14 on the dot. My last two have been marked IV and have both measured 8.5 on the dot.
Interestingly enough I was at my local shop the other day and and they had a polar deck (same wood shop as dlx) that was stickered and marked as an 8.625 but was actually an 8.
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I like to ride the 8.5 x 31.8 14.25 wb dlx shape and the wb has always appeared to measure a bit small. I even saw online a shop had the wb as 14 on the dot. My last two have been marked IV and have both measured 8.5 on the dot.
Interestingly enough I was at my local shop the other day and and they had a polar deck (same wood shop as dlx) that was stickered and marked as an 8.625 but was actually an 8.
This is why I stopped skating dlx board because they were so inconsistent. I thought it was just me. It’s also a headcase between shapes and wb and the concave number.
But I think it’s just bbs. I just got 2 polar 8.25s from the new drop and one is a touch longer then the other and they are labeled 14.125 WB but when I measured they are both 14.25. The with seems right but I haven’t measured it.
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I've ridden the 8.25/32/14.38 for years now. It's always been on point. The 8.5 (esp the blue eagle) has been all over the map.
About 4 years ago at my local shop we notice the size stickers on the blue eagle usually ONLY listed the width. Every other DLX deck had the usual size stickers with width, length, and WB. We started measuring the blue eagles when they came in. WB ranged from 14.25, 14.38, and 14.5. Length was 31.8 to 32.2. We surmised that the size sticker, with width only listed, was because DLX was either intentionally or unintentionally producing 8.5 decks that were unpredictable, hence length and WB were never listed. I should note that none of these were actually an 8.5 width, they were all 8.38. Also, I can't remember if these had the I, II, III, or IV on them, or just a single dot.
A while later things seemed to stabilize. The blue eagle started coming with the normal size sticker. 8.5. 31.8. 14.25. AH even started listing WB on their web site (they were a little slow to do this), and listed the 8.5s as a 14.25 wb. Again, these were all 8.38, and not actually 8.5.
A month ago I decided I wanted to try a smaller wheel base. I ordered an 8.5 eagle. I stood on it when it arrived, and immediately knew something was off. I held it up against my 8.25, and the 8.5 was LONGER (it is supposed to be shorter). I measured the wheelbase, and it was 14.38 (supposed to be 14.25, which is the exact reason I ordered it). It had the usually size sticker on it, which stated 8.5, 14.25, 31.8. Deck was also 8.38 wide (but I expected that). I wasn't happy.
So, the 8.5 still seems to be...inconsistent.
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Here’s some photo evidence. This is a brand new Real 8.5 stamped I. Compared to a grimplestix deck of the same dimensions but stamped IV it measures and appears a hair thinner. Also something I noticed is that these decks are slightly closer to 8.5 towards the front of the deck and then slim down towards 8.38. And maybe I’m just bad at measuring wb but that definitely looks to be more of a 14 than 14.25. Not mad at all I love this shape and dimensions just interesting
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Guy I know recently got the 8.75 white eagle. Size sticker on it said "8.75, 31.5, 14.25." I've NEVER seen a DLX with those dimensions. He measured it, and deck was the usually normally listed dimensions (8.75, 32.5, 14.62). Sticker appeared to be a total misprint.
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Here’s some photo evidence. This is a brand new Real 8.5 stamped I. Compared to a grimplestix deck of the same dimensions but stamped IV it measures and appears a hair thinner. Also something I noticed is that these decks are slightly closer to 8.5 towards the front of the deck and then slim down towards 8.38. And maybe I’m just bad at measuring wb but that definitely looks to be more of a 14 than 14.25. Not mad at all I love this shape and dimensions just interesting
Decks are typically measured over the rear bolts of the front truck. And almost all decks get narrower out the back. wheelbase is middle of the hole to middle of the hole. I've personally never had a DLX board that was off. Not saying it ins't happening.
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I like to ride the 8.5 x 31.8 14.25 wb dlx shape and the wb has always appeared to measure a bit small. I even saw online a shop had the wb as 14 on the dot. My last two have been marked IV and have both measured 8.5 on the dot.
Interestingly enough I was at my local shop the other day and and they had a polar deck (same wood shop as dlx) that was stickered and marked as an 8.625 but was actually an 8.
This is why I stopped skating dlx board because they were so inconsistent. I thought it was just me. It’s also a headcase between shapes and wb and the concave number.
But I think it’s just bbs. I just got 2 polar 8.25s from the new drop and one is a touch longer then the other and they are labeled 14.125 WB but when I measured they are both 14.25. The with seems right but I haven’t measured it.
Nah the Polar 8.25 is always 14.25 and the 8.38 is always 14.38. I dunno why they list otherwise. It's at least consistent.
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Guy I know recently got the 8.75 white eagle. Size sticker on it said "8.75, 31.5, 14.25." I've NEVER seen a DLX with those dimensions. He measured it, and deck was the usually normally listed dimensions (8.75, 32.5, 14.62). Sticker appeared to be a total misprint.
I’d be so hype for an 8.75 x 31.5, 14.25 wb. Fucking sweet. Wide and short. It’s funny because I’ll buy boards that I think are short because of listed measurements, and they are almost all 31.75-32.5 (wider boards).
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Wheelbase is middle of the hole to middle of the hole.
This is what I always thought too but Fos measures distance between the inside edges of the holes. Maybe this is the source of the confusion.
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I like to ride the 8.5 x 31.8 14.25 wb dlx shape and the wb has always appeared to measure a bit small. I even saw online a shop had the wb as 14 on the dot. My last two have been marked IV and have both measured 8.5 on the dot.
Interestingly enough I was at my local shop the other day and and they had a polar deck (same wood shop as dlx) that was stickered and marked as an 8.625 but was actually an 8.
This is why I stopped skating dlx board because they were so inconsistent. I thought it was just me. It’s also a headcase between shapes and wb and the concave number.
But I think it’s just bbs. I just got 2 polar 8.25s from the new drop and one is a touch longer then the other and they are labeled 14.125 WB but when I measured they are both 14.25. The with seems right but I haven’t measured it.
Nah the Polar 8.25 is always 14.25 and the 8.38 is always 14.38. I dunno why they list otherwise. It's at least consistent.
No way. I’m saying the sticker says 14.125 but it measures 14.25 from middle of the hole to middle of the hole.
I also had a Harrington deck, that slick deck with the American flag on it in an 8.38 and it measured 14.5. I was bummed because it felt so long. I was hoping it would be what the sticker said, 14.38 which is about my max. I think it’s just bbs. I think they are just rushing to get wood out. Same with PS. The last 3 Quasi’s I skated felt weird. Like the wood chipped within a week or so and they sogged out in 3 weeks.
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Here’s some photo evidence. This is a brand new Real 8.5 stamped I. Compared to a grimplestix deck of the same dimensions but stamped IV it measures and appears a hair thinner. Also something I noticed is that these decks are slightly closer to 8.5 towards the front of the deck and then slim down towards 8.38. And maybe I’m just bad at measuring wb but that definitely looks to be more of a 14 than 14.25. Not mad at all I love this shape and dimensions just interesting
i've been skating this shape Real (based on the sticker dimensions) for 3 boards, all have been 8.38 actual width, but good for 14.25 wb. they are noticeably narrower than the anti-hero and krooked 8.5s with the same sticker labels.
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I seem to be the exception with a 8:38 Full that was actually 8.5 :o
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I’d be so hype for an 8.75 x 31.5, 14.25 wb. Fucking sweet. Wide and short.
Plan B / Danny Way (according to SoCal). Over 32”, but 8.75 with shorter WB.
Width: 8.75"
Length: 32.125"
Wheelbase: 14.2"
Nose: 7.25"
Tail: 6.6"
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I’d be so hype for an 8.75 x 31.5, 14.25 wb. Fucking sweet. Wide and short.
Plan B / Danny Way (according to SoCal). Over 32”, but 8.75 with shorter WB.
Width: 8.75"
Length: 32.125"
Wheelbase: 14.2"
Nose: 7.25"
Tail: 6.6"
Good looking out. Will check.
Length might be the most important measurement for me, 31.5” non pressed. I can find it, but only on very narrow boards.
Back on track: the boards I’ve bought lately, 2 bbs, 1 ps, 1 evisen, have all been mis labeled, or feel ‘weird’ (mostly just feel lighter/more flex)
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It’s pretty funny how out to lunch there mesurments can be but they still feel the need to use mesurements like 8.06 - they cant even get it within 1/8” half the time whats the point
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Good looking out. Will check.
Length might be the most important measurement for me, 31.5” non pressed. I can find it, but only on very narrow boards.
8.8" by 31.48" with a 14" wb?
https://www.paradeworld.com/product/creature-free-for-all-powerply-deck-88-212-37386684367019/?gclid=CjwKCAiAudD_BRBXEiwAudakX6g2qYTGWJJpH0d-6gALSra-82ppzOB8BcOq6sMGAMpEvN7fDb_z8xoCKpoQAvD_BwE
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Wheelbase is middle of the hole to middle of the hole.
ohh didn’t know that, about Fos. And I’ll keep it in mind when measuring my dmodw board again
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I like to ride the 8.5 x 31.8 14.25 wb dlx shape and the wb has always appeared to measure a bit small. I even saw online a shop had the wb as 14 on the dot. My last two have been marked IV and have both measured 8.5 on the dot.
Interestingly enough I was at my local shop the other day and and they had a polar deck (same wood shop as dlx) that was stickered and marked as an 8.625 but was actually an 8.
This is why I stopped skating dlx board because they were so inconsistent. I thought it was just me. It’s also a headcase between shapes and wb and the concave number.
But I think it’s just bbs. I just got 2 polar 8.25s from the new drop and one is a touch longer then the other and they are labeled 14.125 WB but when I measured they are both 14.25. The with seems right but I haven’t measured it.
Nah the Polar 8.25 is always 14.25 and the 8.38 is always 14.38. I dunno why they list otherwise. It's at least consistent.
No way. I’m saying the sticker says 14.125 but it measures 14.25 from middle of the hole to middle of the hole.
I also had a Harrington deck, that slick deck with the American flag on it in an 8.38 and it measured 14.5. I was bummed because it felt so long. I was hoping it would be what the sticker said, 14.38 which is about my max. I think it’s just bbs. I think they are just rushing to get wood out. Same with PS. The last 3 Quasi’s I skated felt weird. Like the wood chipped within a week or so and they sogged out in 3 weeks.
Yes, I agree with you on sticker vs. actual, but this has always happened to me with Polar. Weird about the flag deck.
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It’s pretty funny how out to lunch there mesurments can be but they still feel the need to use mesurements like 8.06 - they cant even get it within 1/8” half the time whats the point
Fact. I love DLX, and only ride their decks, but listing nuanced decimals like .06 (or the ilk) is laughable when compared to what you're actually presented with.
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I like to ride the 8.5 x 31.8 14.25 wb dlx shape and the wb has always appeared to measure a bit small. I even saw online a shop had the wb as 14 on the dot. My last two have been marked IV and have both measured 8.5 on the dot.
Interestingly enough I was at my local shop the other day and and they had a polar deck (same wood shop as dlx) that was stickered and marked as an 8.625 but was actually an 8.
This is why I stopped skating dlx board because they were so inconsistent. I thought it was just me. It’s also a headcase between shapes and wb and the concave number.
But I think it’s just bbs. I just got 2 polar 8.25s from the new drop and one is a touch longer then the other and they are labeled 14.125 WB but when I measured they are both 14.25. The with seems right but I haven’t measured it.
Nah the Polar 8.25 is always 14.25 and the 8.38 is always 14.38. I dunno why they list otherwise. It's at least consistent.
No way. I’m saying the sticker says 14.125 but it measures 14.25 from middle of the hole to middle of the hole.
I also had a Harrington deck, that slick deck with the American flag on it in an 8.38 and it measured 14.5. I was bummed because it felt so long. I was hoping it would be what the sticker said, 14.38 which is about my max. I think it’s just bbs. I think they are just rushing to get wood out. Same with PS. The last 3 Quasi’s I skated felt weird. Like the wood chipped within a week or so and they sogged out in 3 weeks.
Yes, I agree with you on sticker vs. actual, but this has always happened to me with Polar. Weird about the flag deck.
I guess you’re one of the lucky ones then. I bought it too because one of my friends had an 8.38 polar and said his measured out to be 14.38
We both will skate around the same sizes and mostly polar and every now and then we will end up with different numbers. I just think with everything going on it’s hard for bbs to keep up. I noticed a lot of companies out of bbs all have 8.5s with 14.5 WBs now when it used to not be the case. It’s just crazy to me because it feels like every other week there’s another FA/Hockey drop.
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I like to ride the 8.5 x 31.8 14.25 wb dlx shape and the wb has always appeared to measure a bit small. I even saw online a shop had the wb as 14 on the dot. My last two have been marked IV and have both measured 8.5 on the dot.
Interestingly enough I was at my local shop the other day and and they had a polar deck (same wood shop as dlx) that was stickered and marked as an 8.625 but was actually an 8.
This is why I stopped skating dlx board because they were so inconsistent. I thought it was just me. It’s also a headcase between shapes and wb and the concave number.
But I think it’s just bbs. I just got 2 polar 8.25s from the new drop and one is a touch longer then the other and they are labeled 14.125 WB but when I measured they are both 14.25. The with seems right but I haven’t measured it.
Nah the Polar 8.25 is always 14.25 and the 8.38 is always 14.38. I dunno why they list otherwise. It's at least consistent.
Weird. The Polar site lists the 8.25 as having a 14.125wb so I bought one and the wheelbase is spot on. Widthwise I would say it's a 8.125 though.
I also think it's just basically a BBS problem right now. Bought a 8.28 Real in Summer and got an 8.06. Got a replacement AH from DLX that was the right shape but a 14.38wb. After that I kinda resolved just to buy DLX in person only for the time being. Now I would say it's the rule for all BBS
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Not to discount measurements from you guys but as others had said in other threads, when you measure with a tape that may or may not actually be true to size, you will always get those kind of measurements.
Example: The end of a few tape measures I have seen have stretched or come away a bit which will always give you an extra mm or three which means the board is actually a mm or three wider, longer, etc than what the tape measure is showing.
I had an interesting "discussion" with one guy who kept saying his boards are not the correct size, but his tape measure was out, when we measured it against a metal angle rule that could not change.
That is not to say that these recent decks are not different to specs or whatever since covid, as I am yet to get more new wood since things got going again, but I know I have always found DLX boards measure to the specs for the most part (the full shapes have always been bigger / longer / wider though).
Check your tape measure, or measure from the ten inch mark and see if it makes any difference.
My used board pile that I just measured, the blue eagle 8.5 x 31.8 x 14.25 wheelbase is spot on, as are my 8.5 x 32.25 x 14.38 wb boards, same 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.5 wheelbase in three different DLX boards, but the 8.25 x 32 x 14.38 wb seems more like 8.28 in width, which I always found so that is no surprise. The older black eagle I used to have, maybe twenty or more, were always 8.125 x 32 x 14.25 wb too.
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Not to discount measurements from you guys but as others had said in other threads, when you measure with a tape that may or may not actually be true to size, you will always get those kind of measurements.
Example: The end of a few tape measures I have seen have stretched or come away a bit which will always give you an extra mm or three which means the board is actually a mm or three wider, longer, etc than what the tape measure is showing.
I had an interesting "discussion" with one guy who kept saying his boards are not the correct size, but his tape measure was out, when we measured it against a metal angle rule that could not change.
That is not to say that these recent decks are not different to specs or whatever since covid, as I am yet to get more new wood since things got going again, but I know I have always found DLX boards measure to the specs for the most part (the full shapes have always been bigger / longer / wider though).
Check your tape measure, or measure from the ten inch mark and see if it makes any difference.
My used board pile that I just measured, the blue eagle 8.5 x 31.8 x 14.25 wheelbase is spot on, as are my 8.5 x 32.25 x 14.38 wb boards, same 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.5 wheelbase in three different DLX boards, but the 8.25 x 32 x 14.38 wb seems more like 8.28 in width, which I always found so that is no surprise. The older black eagle I used to have, maybe twenty or more, were always 8.125 x 32 x 14.25 wb too.
The discrepancies can be revealed WITHOUT a tape measure. A deck that is supposed to be 31.8 should not sometimes be shorter, and sometimes be longer, than a 32” when held against each other. No tape measure needed. Moreover, every time I’ve measured an 8.25, they are spot on. I cannot say that about the 8.5 (using same tailors tape). Last, these same discrepancies have been noted by multiple people, on the same decks (e.g. 8.25 are consistent, 8.5, not so much).
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Not to discount measurements from you guys but as others had said in other threads, when you measure with a tape that may or may not actually be true to size, you will always get those kind of measurements.
Example: The end of a few tape measures I have seen have stretched or come away a bit which will always give you an extra mm or three which means the board is actually a mm or three wider, longer, etc than what the tape measure is showing.
I had an interesting "discussion" with one guy who kept saying his boards are not the correct size, but his tape measure was out, when we measured it against a metal angle rule that could not change.
That is not to say that these recent decks are not different to specs or whatever since covid, as I am yet to get more new wood since things got going again, but I know I have always found DLX boards measure to the specs for the most part (the full shapes have always been bigger / longer / wider though).
Check your tape measure, or measure from the ten inch mark and see if it makes any difference.
My used board pile that I just measured, the blue eagle 8.5 x 31.8 x 14.25 wheelbase is spot on, as are my 8.5 x 32.25 x 14.38 wb boards, same 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.5 wheelbase in three different DLX boards, but the 8.25 x 32 x 14.38 wb seems more like 8.28 in width, which I always found so that is no surprise. The older black eagle I used to have, maybe twenty or more, were always 8.125 x 32 x 14.25 wb too.
The discrepancies can be revealed WITHOUT a tape measure. A deck that is supposed to be 31.8 should not sometimes be shorter, and sometimes be longer, than a 32” when held against each other. No tape measure needed. Moreover, every time I’ve measured an 8.25, they are spot on. I cannot say that about the 8.5 (using same tailors tape). Last, these same discrepancies have been noted by multiple people, on the same decks (e.g. 8.25 are consistent, 8.5, not so much).
Yes I get that and I would think from popular opinion, that it is not going to change any time soon.
I even said before, when I lined up about five to ten of the same in both the 8.25 and 8.5 boards when they all came in, back to back all on their sides, some would be a bit wider and some a bit less, some on the ends too when all standing up, but for people to say they ALWAYS were different sizes to what was on the sticker, even when checking the board in question, they turned out to not always be the case for my shop.
In 8.5 there were two regular shapes I had a lot of, the 8.5 x 32.25 x 14.38 wheelbase which I thought was way more comfortable than the other shorter one which was 8.5 x 31.8 x 14.25 wb, but I wonder if some people have some of both of these boards thinking they were supposed to be the same.
There was also the shape, correct to sticker being 8.4 x 32 x 14.25 wb as well as the 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.5 wb, both of those I still have some of in my own stash, who other shops had listed as 8.5 and I knew they were not.
I am yet to see or check any new boards post covid shutdown, so yes it is definitely possible for some or all new boards to be different to stickered sizes, but almost all the older ones I have still are as per what was described.
This is a game changer in measuring boards too, which makes it a lot easier to sit the metal square behind the deck on the counter and see where it sits, looking horizontally at it for the width.
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Not to discount measurements from you guys but as others had said in other threads, when you measure with a tape that may or may not actually be true to size, you will always get those kind of measurements.
Example: The end of a few tape measures I have seen have stretched or come away a bit which will always give you an extra mm or three which means the board is actually a mm or three wider, longer, etc than what the tape measure is showing.
I had an interesting "discussion" with one guy who kept saying his boards are not the correct size, but his tape measure was out, when we measured it against a metal angle rule that could not change.
That is not to say that these recent decks are not different to specs or whatever since covid, as I am yet to get more new wood since things got going again, but I know I have always found DLX boards measure to the specs for the most part (the full shapes have always been bigger / longer / wider though).
Check your tape measure, or measure from the ten inch mark and see if it makes any difference.
My used board pile that I just measured, the blue eagle 8.5 x 31.8 x 14.25 wheelbase is spot on, as are my 8.5 x 32.25 x 14.38 wb boards, same 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.5 wheelbase in three different DLX boards, but the 8.25 x 32 x 14.38 wb seems more like 8.28 in width, which I always found so that is no surprise. The older black eagle I used to have, maybe twenty or more, were always 8.125 x 32 x 14.25 wb too.
The discrepancies can be revealed WITHOUT a tape measure. A deck that is supposed to be 31.8 should not sometimes be shorter, and sometimes be longer, than a 32” when held against each other. No tape measure needed. Moreover, every time I’ve measured an 8.25, they are spot on. I cannot say that about the 8.5 (using same tailors tape). Last, these same discrepancies have been noted by multiple people, on the same decks (e.g. 8.25 are consistent, 8.5, not so much).
Yes I get that and I would think from popular opinion, that it is not going to change any time soon.
I even said before, when I lined up about five to ten of the same in both the 8.25 and 8.5 boards when they all came in, back to back all on their sides, some would be a bit wider and some a bit less, some on the ends too when all standing up, but for people to say they ALWAYS were different sizes to what was on the sticker, even when checking the board in question, they turned out to not always be the case for my shop.
In 8.5 there were two regular shapes I had a lot of, the 8.5 x 32.25 x 14.38 wheelbase which I thought was way more comfortable than the other shorter one which was 8.5 x 31.8 x 14.25 wb, but I wonder if some people have some of both of these boards thinking they were supposed to be the same.
There was also the shape, correct to sticker being 8.4 x 32 x 14.25 wb as well as the 8.38 x 32.25 x 14.5 wb, both of those I still have some of in my own stash, who other shops had listed as 8.5 and I knew they were not.
I am yet to see or check any new boards post covid shutdown, so yes it is definitely possible for some or all new boards to be different to stickered sizes, but almost all the older ones I have still are as per what was described.
This is a game changer in measuring boards too, which makes it a lot easier to sit the metal square behind the deck on the counter and see where it sits, looking horizontally at it for the width.
That’s what it all comes down to; consistency. I couldn’t really careless if an 8.4 was actually an 8.38 or whatever, as long as it is ALWAYS that way. The real problem arises when you are hoping for X but Y appears.
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Friend got an 8.5 this morning. I asked if I could measure it before he set it up. Measured right behind front trucks. Board on side. Ruler flat on ground.
(https://i.imgur.com/FDEZ2kK.jpg)
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Friend got an 8.5 this morning. I asked if I could measure it before he set it up. Measured right behind front trucks. Board on side. Ruler flat on ground.
(https://i.imgur.com/FDEZ2kK.jpg)
Looking good at 8 and 3 /8 unless the ruler didn't start right at the end, but also not meaning to be a smart ass. :)
What board was it? Just the name of the graphic even.
Definitely a better way to get a good measure.
I would also be curious as to wheelbase, or what sticker was on it too, but I ask too much sometimes.
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Damn this is crazy my 8.5 real is also 8.38 I knew something wasn't right when my wheelbite marks were so close to the edge of my board. I skate 159s on my 8.5 but with the board size being so small, I feel like I need to size up my board or down size my trucks now. The madness continues.
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Damn this is crazy my 8.5 real is also 8.38 I knew something wasn't right when my wheelbite marks were so close to the edge of my board. I skate 159s on my 8.5 but with the board size being so small, I feel like I need to size up my board or down size my trucks now. The madness continues.
I’ve done 159s on 8.38, and liked it, but yeah. Kinda muffles the flip tricks.
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Friend got an 8.5 this morning. I asked if I could measure it before he set it up. Measured right behind front trucks. Board on side. Ruler flat on ground.
(https://i.imgur.com/FDEZ2kK.jpg)
Looking good at 8 and 3 /8 unless the ruler didn't start right at the end, but also not meaning to be a smart ass. :)
What board was it? Just the name of the graphic even.
Definitely a better way to get a good measure.
I would also be curious as to wheelbase, or what sticker was on it too, but I ask too much sometimes.
Real Oval. 31.8. 14.25 claimed wheel base was spot on. Measured my 8.25, too. That was spot on for 8.25 for 8.25.
Personally, I have never once seen an 8.5/14.25/31.8 that measured 8.5. They have all been 8.38 like ones shown in this thread.
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So I wonder at what point sizes got messed up or changed.
All the remaining boards I have in stock (which were from before covid closed everything down) are the correct size as per sticker for width in the 8.5 eagles and all others including 8.0 8.125 8.38 8.4 8.5 8.6 8.75 and 9, except for the 8.25 decks, which I checked again today and definitely are 1/16 wider, coming in at 8 5/16 on both the tape measure and the metal ruler, not 8 4/16 = 8 1/4 which I don't have pics of measuring but I do have pics of when I got all the decks in if that would make it any nicer to see. (Yes they are now considered old stock.)
Again not doubting the current issues, but I also wonder if anyone has put it to Deluxe or should put it to them that they have issues with the sizes. From the main page, top right, HIT US UP and go from there.
https://www.dlxsf.com/
I don't have any pics of the last few orders I received, but this might be the last full pic of DLX wood I did get in (and a couple of others - Doom sayers and DGK on the wall).
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4jUoE-F7NH/
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I seem to be the exception with a 8:38 Full that was actually 8.5 :o
I ONLY skated Real Heavyweights for about a year because I was breaking boards a lot. This is about the time I got board madness and my board felt super wide. Sure enough, my 8.3 was an 8.5. Out of the 8ish I skated, I’d say maybe 3 of them ended up measuring just shy of 8.5
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...except for the 8.25 decks...
Mind blown. The 8.25 has always been the most consistent one in my expeirence.
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So I wonder at what point sizes got messed up or changed.
All the remaining boards I have in stock (which were from before covid closed everything down) are the correct size as per sticker for width in the 8.5 eagles and all others including 8.0 8.125 8.38 8.4 8.5 8.6 8.75 and 9, except for the 8.25 decks, which I checked again today and definitely are 1/16 wider, coming in at 8 5/16 on both the tape measure and the metal ruler, not 8 4/16 = 8 1/4 which I don't have pics of measuring but I do have pics of when I got all the decks in if that would make it any nicer to see. (Yes they are now considered old stock.)
Again not doubting the current issues, but I also wonder if anyone has put it to Deluxe or should put it to them that they have issues with the sizes. From the main page, top right, HIT US UP and go from there.
https://www.dlxsf.com/
I don't have any pics of the last few orders I received, but this might be the last full pic of DLX wood I did get in (and a couple of others - Doom sayers and DGK on the wall).
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4jUoE-F7NH/
I really think that even though bbs makes an 8.25 they have different 8.25 for dlx boards. Like the press is similar to other 8.25s but a little different. I think that with the pandemic to pump boards out they are just using the same press for all of them and putting the old sizing stickers on causing some discrepancies.
But who knows. It’s just a theory. I mean I have 2 polar 8.25s and when I lay them on top of each other they don’t line up.
I was also thinking about this while in the car with my wife today and I was wondering if where they sit in the mold when they are pressed plays a part in the accuracy of sizes, ie how much concave they have. Like a deeper concave is going to be a touch shorter.
Example laying a piece of paper on a table and measuring it you’re going to get what, 8in? Now If you lift the sides up like a skateboard and re measure it, ifs a little shorter. Same if you full on taco the paper if any of that makes sense. Could be wrong but who knows.
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I really think that even though bbs makes an 8.25 they have different 8.25 for dlx boards. Like the press is similar to other 8.25s but a little different. I think that with the pandemic to pump boards out they are just using the same press for all of them and putting the old sizing stickers on causing some discrepancies.
But who knows. It’s just a theory. I mean I have 2 polar 8.25s and when I lay them on top of each other they don’t line up.
I was also thinking about this while in the car with my wife today and I was wondering if where they sit in the mold when they are pressed plays a part in the accuracy of sizes, ie how much concave they have. Like a deeper concave is going to be a touch shorter.
Example laying a piece of paper on a table and measuring it you’re going to get what, 8in? Now If you lift the sides up like a skateboard and re measure it, ifs a little shorter. Same if you full on taco the paper if any of that makes sense. Could be wrong but who knows.
It was said there were dedicated presses just for DLX boards, but right now, they might just be going full steam ahead with whatever they get pressed from any or all presses.
That would explain how some boards have had the I to IV and some do not, as well as some people finding non DLX boards with these on them, eg an Alien board I think someone put up recently.
My only post covid board just arrived, an 8.38 eagle, IV mold and orange top, so I couldn't be happier. Measures just right for what I want (slightly bigger than 8.38 but not quite 8.5), feels great to stand on, so will set it up and see how it skates compared to the older pre covid boards I have.
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I really think that even though bbs makes an 8.25 they have different 8.25 for dlx boards. Like the press is similar to other 8.25s but a little different. I think that with the pandemic to pump boards out they are just using the same press for all of them and putting the old sizing stickers on causing some discrepancies.
But who knows. It’s just a theory. I mean I have 2 polar 8.25s and when I lay them on top of each other they don’t line up.
I was also thinking about this while in the car with my wife today and I was wondering if where they sit in the mold when they are pressed plays a part in the accuracy of sizes, ie how much concave they have. Like a deeper concave is going to be a touch shorter.
Example laying a piece of paper on a table and measuring it you’re going to get what, 8in? Now If you lift the sides up like a skateboard and re measure it, ifs a little shorter. Same if you full on taco the paper if any of that makes sense. Could be wrong but who knows.
It was said there were dedicated presses just for DLX boards, but right now, they might just be going full steam ahead with whatever they get pressed from any or all presses.
That would explain how some boards have had the I to IV and some do not, as well as some people finding non DLX boards with these on them, eg an Alien board I think someone put up recently.
My only post covid board just arrived, an 8.38 eagle, IV mold and orange top, so I couldn't be happier. Measures just right for what I want (slightly bigger than 8.38 but not quite 8.5), feels great to stand on, so will set it up and see how it skates compared to the older pre covid boards I have.
Oh man. You hit the jackpot. That’s kind of why I had to step back from dlx boards. Between finding the right wb and size and then I like a flatter board so finding one that was stamped 4/5 was such a headcase.
Enjoy that one. You got something special.
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Related/unrelated: Saw 8.25 Full this week. The roman numeral stamp was bigger, and more pronounced, than any previous stamp I have ever seen (and I only ride DLX decks). In this case it was IV stamp. New presses?
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Related/unrelated: Saw 8.25 Full this week. The roman numeral stamp was bigger, and more pronounced, than any previous stamp I have ever seen (and I only ride DLX decks). In this case it was IV stamp. New presses?
Did you get to stand on it or feel the concave?
Maybe just new stamp.
Oh man. You hit the jackpot. That’s kind of why I had to step back from dlx boards. Between finding the right wb and size and then I like a flatter board so finding one that was stamped 4/5 was such a headcase.
Enjoy that one. You got something special.
Not bragging, just for show and tell, more than anything, IV stamp included.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJxdwi0ldiV/
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Oh man. You hit the jackpot. That’s kind of why I had to step back from dlx boards. Between finding the right wb and size and then I like a flatter board so finding one that was stamped 4/5 was such a headcase.
Enjoy that one. You got something special.
Not bragging, just for show and tell, more than anything, IV stamp included.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJxdwi0ldiV/
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Oooh. That red top sheet is a no go for me dawg. 😂
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Oh man. You hit the jackpot. That’s kind of why I had to step back from dlx boards. Between finding the right wb and size and then I like a flatter board so finding one that was stamped 4/5 was such a headcase.
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Enjoy that one. You got something special.
Not bragging, just for show and tell, more than anything, IV stamp included.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJxdwi0ldiV/
Oooh. That red top sheet is a no go for me dawg. 😂
what’s wrong w red top ply? Just superstitious?
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Looks Orange tho
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Looks Orange tho
Yellow top stain is my nemesis.
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6 Polar 8.25s in 3 years all have been identical with the 14.25 WB
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I miss when DLX boards were almost always top and bottom layers dyed, plus the second from top and bottom dyed as well. They look so much nicer with that lay-up, and it was practically their signature for years. Seems like they've abandoned it now, though I do see Polar running that lay-up. In classic DLX colors too, using yellow or pink for the top and bottom with a dark teal or blue for the second layers. Used to see that combo a lot in DLX boards.
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Oooh. That red top sheet is a no go for me dawg. 😂
what’s wrong w red top ply? Just superstitious?
Absolutely NO to red tops!! Don't really know why, but I just know I don't like them! One board I did have with a red top skated fine, but it always weirded me out so I sold it or gave it away pretty much new.
This one is orange and I am always more happy on orange or yellow tops for some weird reason. This was even before I saw videos of Frank Gerwer taking all the yellow ones.
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I miss when DLX boards were almost always top and bottom layers dyed, plus the second from top and bottom dyed as well. They look so much nicer with that lay-up, and it was practically their signature for years. Seems like they've abandoned it now, though I do see Polar running that lay-up. In classic DLX colors too, using yellow or pink for the top and bottom with a dark teal or blue for the second layers. Used to see that combo a lot in DLX boards.
It is funny with the different colours and the different periods of how they were pressed, but for a long time there was top and second top coloured, then second bottom, but I don't think people really liked the plain bottom so they switched it up. Baker boys still do it that way, one colour on top with a colour through the middle, so the bottom is plain.
I should take a pic or two of a few different ways the DLX boards have changed over the years too, as they were very much standard in certain ways for a long time.
Now it looks like top, second, then bottom only coloured from all the recent boards, and different top to bottom, whereas some companies always do the top and bottom the same.
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I just measured all the 8.5 DLX decks we have in the shop and none are actually 8.5. They’re all 8.38.
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I just measured all the 8.5 DLX decks we have in the shop and none are actually 8.5. They’re all 8.38.
Sure is weird!
Do you have any of the 8.38 stickered decks? Eg olive eagle 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb, or other asst DLX graphics on that same size
I found my olive eagle I just got (and the others I have had pre covid) is bigger than 8.38 so would be almost larger than what those 8.5 stickered boards would be, so would be interesting to compare the ones stickered as 8.5 to the 8.38 and see as I think my 8.38 would be wider than those 8.5 decks.
That is why I am finding this size so good, as it is a wide board with long wheelbase, which is perfect for how I skate.
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I just measured all the 8.5 DLX decks we have in the shop and none are actually 8.5. They’re all 8.38.
Sure is weird!
Do you have any of the 8.38 stickered decks? Eg olive eagle 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb, or other asst DLX graphics on that same size
I found my olive eagle I just got (and the others I have had pre covid) is bigger than 8.38 so would be almost larger than what those 8.5 stickered boards would be, so would be interesting to compare the ones stickered as 8.5 to the 8.38 and see as I think my 8.38 would be wider than those 8.5 decks.
That is why I am finding this size so good, as it is a wide board with long wheelbase, which is perfect for how I skate.
The 8.38 Real renewal we have is 8.38. The krooked 8.38 we have is one 16th shy of 8.5. Also, one of the 8.5 lovers 2 decks is actually that same “8.4” shape I’ve had twice that’s 8.30 in reality. Lol. They really don’t know what they’re doing over there with the measurements.
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I just measured all the 8.5 DLX decks we have in the shop and none are actually 8.5. They’re all 8.38.
Sure is weird!
Do you have any of the 8.38 stickered decks? Eg olive eagle 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb, or other asst DLX graphics on that same size
I found my olive eagle I just got (and the others I have had pre covid) is bigger than 8.38 so would be almost larger than what those 8.5 stickered boards would be, so would be interesting to compare the ones stickered as 8.5 to the 8.38 and see as I think my 8.38 would be wider than those 8.5 decks.
That is why I am finding this size so good, as it is a wide board with long wheelbase, which is perfect for how I skate.
The 8.38 Real renewal we have is 8.38. The krooked 8.38 we have is one 16th shy of 8.5. Also, one of the 8.5 lovers 2 decks is actually that same “8.4” shape I’ve had twice that’s 8.30 in reality. Lol. They really don’t know what they’re doing over there with the measurements.
That Krooked sounds exactly like my board!
I haven't seen any of the Renewal or price point 8.38s as they only just came to be in the last drop, but the usual 8.38 always seemed bigger.
How do they feel to skate - the ones you have had that is? A good size or too small?
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I just measured all the 8.5 DLX decks we have in the shop and none are actually 8.5. They’re all 8.38.
Sure is weird!
Do you have any of the 8.38 stickered decks? Eg olive eagle 8.38 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb, or other asst DLX graphics on that same size
I found my olive eagle I just got (and the others I have had pre covid) is bigger than 8.38 so would be almost larger than what those 8.5 stickered boards would be, so would be interesting to compare the ones stickered as 8.5 to the 8.38 and see as I think my 8.38 would be wider than those 8.5 decks.
That is why I am finding this size so good, as it is a wide board with long wheelbase, which is perfect for how I skate.
The 8.38 Real renewal we have is 8.38. The krooked 8.38 we have is one 16th shy of 8.5. Also, one of the 8.5 lovers 2 decks is actually that same “8.4” shape I’ve had twice that’s 8.30 in reality. Lol. They really don’t know what they’re doing over there with the measurements.
That Krooked sounds exactly like my board!
I haven't seen any of the Renewal or price point 8.38s as they only just came to be in the last drop, but the usual 8.38 always seemed bigger.
How do they feel to skate - the ones you have had that is? A good size or too small?
I loved those “8.4” lovers 2 decks cause I prefer 8.30 if I can find it, and that’s what those decks measure out to be. Not an 8.5 guy, but now that I know DLX 8.5s are usually 8.38 that gives me more options in dire times.
Next one I have personally is the real Donnelly 8.25 full SE, measures a tad over 8.25, nice and steep as it’s a 1. Feels amazing but I’m scared to break another new deck so just skating from my lightly used stack until I either shed a couple pounds or get sick of old shit.
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With anything generator, 8.25 has always felt like a hair of magic carpetry on 144/148's....and 8.125 felt just flush....
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We just got the real mason silva sunset “8.38” and its dead on 8.5. The 14.38 WB and 32.18 length is correct tho
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We just got the real mason silva sunset “8.38” and its dead on 8.5. The 14.38 WB and 32.18 length is correct tho
I have always found that the FULL boards are wider, which is to my advantage really, but that is just me.
That graphic is pretty cool too, that fade through the colours to match the graphic sunset. Is it as good in person as it looks from the pics?
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Are you guys measuring the decks pressing the tape measurer into the concave or leaving it out the concave. Could be why the measurements are off...
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I'm currently riding the mason full SE sunset deck. I was a little bummed when I got it and it measured to be 8.5 instead of the 8.38 as advertised. But after giving it a chance I ended up picking up another after my second session on it. Love the Full SE shape.
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I just picked up a real 8.5" full se and it is actually 8.5" the real team bold 8.5" i just finished skating was actually a 8.38". Dlx needs to get their shit together.
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Are you guys measuring the decks pressing the tape measurer into the concave or leaving it out the concave. Could be why the measurements are off...
Lengthwise that would make a a big difference. For width, the difference between a ruler (not pressing) and a tailor's tape (pressing) is like 1mm/2mm. The 8.5 still comes short pressing in.
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Are you guys measuring the decks pressing the tape measurer into the concave or leaving it out the concave. Could be why the measurements are off...
Lengthwise that would make a a big difference. For width, the difference between a ruler (not pressing) and a tailor's tape (pressing) is like 1mm/2mm. The 8.5 still comes short pressing in.
Beat me to it - the difference is about 1mm, and in general you measure straight across, not into the concave. Try to hold a measuring tape consistently flat throughout the concave while looking at the measurement and you'll see why straight across is the way to go.
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Gotta be a green top
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last 2 boards I've had were dlx boards with green tops. they've been the best decks I've had in a long time. you might be on to something.
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Brown and black stain tops...
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The urban wood myth of ply sheets being graded by quality and then colour coded as such, with the yellow tops being best, as per Frank Gerwer's obsession with yellow tops.
Never had any issues with specific colours and broken or seen almost all colours broken without warranty issues, but I always thought yellow and orange just were so good, but never had a red top I liked (even though I skated one without any problems and passed it on to someone else just as soon as I could to be rid of it) but I think increasingly now, BBS and DLX boards are coming out in all the colour options much more frequently.
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I lined a anti hero and polar deck up, both say the length is 31.875 but the polar is like half an inch longer. This messes with my deck ocd a bit. I always found 32 length a bit too long for me. Luxury problems here. It always get worse when I can't skate regularly. Thanks slap ^^
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I just picked up a real 8.5" full se and it is actually 8.5" the real team bold 8.5" i just finished skating was actually a 8.38". Dlx needs to get their shit together.
I love DLX boards but the team bold 8.5 was one of my least favorite boards from Real... I was caught off guard by how awkward and dainty it felt. Maybe it's because it felt like an 8.38 that it was throwing me off... Good to know I wasn't crazy on why it felt weird.
The Full SE is my favorite from Real in 8.5. I've skated at least 4 of em and loved it each time! Reliable spec labeling usually, too.
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Sorry for double post, but it was separate from the above, imo.
From the "Skate stuff bought recently" thread
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My recent pick up from Tri Star Skateshop in Cleveland, OH!
Solid shop and they have a cool board box, also!
Two 8.5s and Mob:
- Anti Hero Pfanner - digging the solid pale white/yellow graphic
- Black Label Troy - this one has a nice medium full shape to it. Not pointy and not super full either. Stoked on this one for sure! Thanks everyone that chimed in with feedback on Label, I have a feeling it will be good once set up
Curious if both boards are the same size, more so width wise, as I know the AH is supposed to be shorter in wheelbase and length than the BL, but if you have had a peek at the DLX board sizes thread, it would be interesting for your input.
My experience with DLX has been pretty consistent for the most part I think. 8.5, 8.38, and 8.25 all felt like their true size from Real, Krooked, and AH. Maybe i got lucky over the years? I have had one or two that felt small for 8.5: Team Bold last year and some other team model a few years back. I haven't noticed DLX mislabeling the size for any of their boards over the years but it's possible they do some "rounding" of the measurements or tapering to shapes that affect the accuracy of those specs or they are mislabeling the width, as everything else checks out. This is stuff I never paid any attention to in the past. I look for my size and I stand on it, if it feels good, like what I prefer, then I go with it. I know many on here go steps beyond that for the goldilocks board and that's rad! :)
This Label I got, width-wise, under my feet, feels like a "full" 8.5" and the AH Pfanner feels like a modest/small 8.5 when comparing to each other. The Label is spot on 8.5, though.
This Pfanner, after measuring, does come out to a hair under 8.5 at its widest point and tapers to almost 8.25 near where the tail begins. Technically, this 8.5 should be labeled as an 8.38 or 8.4 based on what the measurements say. However, it still feels like an 8.5 to me, but not as full.
My thoughts are that certain molds/shapes for certain sizes are rounded up or down slightly by DLX if it's close enough to that size. This probably explains why we are seeing 8.38 feel like an 8.5 and an 8.5 feel like an 8.38, etc. That does throw a wrench in for anyone expecting one thing based on labeling and getting something else once they have it...
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I miss when DLX boards were almost always top and bottom layers dyed, plus the second from top and bottom dyed as well. They look so much nicer with that lay-up, and it was practically their signature for years. Seems like they've abandoned it now, though I do see Polar running that lay-up. In classic DLX colors too, using yellow or pink for the top and bottom with a dark teal or blue for the second layers. Used to see that combo a lot in DLX boards.
It is funny with the different colours and the different periods of how they were pressed, but for a long time there was top and second top coloured, then second bottom, but I don't think people really liked the plain bottom so they switched it up. Baker boys still do it that way, one colour on top with a colour through the middle, so the bottom is plain.
I should take a pic or two of a few different ways the DLX boards have changed over the years too, as they were very much standard in certain ways for a long time.
Now it looks like top, second, then bottom only coloured from all the recent boards, and different top to bottom, whereas some companies always do the top and bottom the same.
Please do this. Would be super interested.
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I should take a pic or two of a few different ways the DLX boards have changed over the years too, as they were very much standard in certain ways for a long time.
Please do this. Would be super interested.
Will do! :)
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I found a local shop in my travels that had the full range of the Real renewal price point decks in, but I mainly wanted to check the 8.38 and the 8.5 decks, as per the pic below (unrelated shop, but I had seen it with all the boards).
I found that the 8.38 (yellow graphic) was as my other 8.38 boards, a touch under 8.5 and true to 32.25 length and 14.5 wheelbase, but no number stamped into the top, but still the normal feel (and orange top, which I liked).
The 8.5 (purple graphic) was just 8.5 at the widest point just behind the front bolts but tapered down so most of it was less than the 8.38 beside it. Also the 8.5 was the old classic 8.5 dimensions, so 8.5 x 32.25 with 14.38 wheelbase, and had a II on top, which was correct as per the sticker on it. I actually liked it a lot to look at and stand on.
There was also an AH 8.38 Taylor Expressions graphic, which was on a II board, same everything as the 8.38 Real deck and a touch more concave. No other DLX wood in store to check any of the other sizes / shapes, but all these ones pretty much held up to what was on the sticker.
I bought the Real renewal as well, just to have another one but also to see how the newer price point boards hold up, but even just standing on it in the shop, it felt good, solid, a bit of flex, same as the pro AH board so I don't think I will have any issues with it at all.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHNQcA6p7GS/
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How are the 8.75”? Don’t see those too often, only online
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the 8.5 was the old classic 8.5 dimensions, so 8.5 x 32.25 with 14.38 wheelbase...
WHOA. I've not seen one of those around in awhile...just the 14.25 version. Wild shit going down.
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How are the 8.75”? Don’t see those too often, only online
The last one I actually had / saw here was the white eagle, but that was true to size / sticker (and always has been).
There is the Real oval, Krooked eyes, AH white eagle and other specialty graphics, Grant Taylor Curbside Service graphic I saw someone had, in the setup thread.
width: 8.75"
length: 32.625"
wheelbase: 14.625"
nose: 7.125"
tail: 6.625"
medium concave
standard popsicle shape
Like this one, as already posted in the other thread, but pics of top, bottom and side too:
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/real-team-oval-pearl-patterns-8-75-deck-multi_p140351
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the 8.5 was the old classic 8.5 dimensions, so 8.5 x 32.25 with 14.38 wheelbase...
WHOA. I've not seen one of those around in awhile...just the 14.25 version. Wild shit going down.
Even shows it as the 8.5 x 31.8 w 14.25 wb on the Real site too, but I had seen a few online shops have it as listed on the sticker so was curious as to which shape it was, which might be different elsewhere though:
https://www.realskateboards.com/
https://www.realskateboards.com/img/2020/rs-2020-del-04-renewals.jpg
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How are the 8.75”? Don’t see those too often, only online
The last one I actually had / saw here was the white eagle, but that was true to size / sticker (and always has been).
There is the Real oval, Krooked eyes, AH white eagle and other specialty graphics, Grant Taylor Curbside Service graphic I saw someone had, in the setup thread.
width: 8.75"
length: 32.625"
wheelbase: 14.625"
nose: 7.125"
tail: 6.625"
medium concave
standard popsicle shape
Like this one, as already posted in the other thread, but pics of top, bottom and side too:
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/real-team-oval-pearl-patterns-8-75-deck-multi_p140351
I normally ride the 8.25/14.38. For some unknown, bewildering reason, I decided a few months back that I wanted to try out that 8.75 white eagle. The above dimensions are spot on, except for my length measurement was 32.43", that is prolly because I measured tip-to-tip, and didn't follow bend of nose/tail.
Unrelated: The 8.75" has the exact same shape as the 8.25", it's just bigger. It was a fun board, but I went back to the 8.25" pretty quick.
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How are the 8.75”? Don’t see those too often, only online
The last one I actually had / saw here was the white eagle, but that was true to size / sticker (and always has been).
There is the Real oval, Krooked eyes, AH white eagle and other specialty graphics, Grant Taylor Curbside Service graphic I saw someone had, in the setup thread.
width: 8.75"
length: 32.625"
wheelbase: 14.625"
nose: 7.125"
tail: 6.625"
medium concave
standard popsicle shape
Like this one, as already posted in the other thread, but pics of top, bottom and side too:
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/real-team-oval-pearl-patterns-8-75-deck-multi_p140351
I normally ride the 8.25/14.38. For some unknown, bewildering reason, I decided a few months back that I wanted to try out that 8.75 white eagle. The above dimensions are spot on, except for my length measurement was 32.43", that is prolly because I measured tip-to-tip, and didn't follow bend of nose/tail.
Unrelated: The 8.75" has the exact same shape as the 8.25", it's just bigger. It was a fun board, but I went back to the 8.25" pretty quick.
the shorter length would be welcomed. And the wb was spot on 14.625”? Can’t say i see that wb measurement often at all. Did you ride mostly transition with it? Got some 151’s coming and wondering which dlx pairing would work well with them
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How are the 8.75”? Don’t see those too often, only online
The last one I actually had / saw here was the white eagle, but that was true to size / sticker (and always has been).
There is the Real oval, Krooked eyes, AH white eagle and other specialty graphics, Grant Taylor Curbside Service graphic I saw someone had, in the setup thread.
width: 8.75"
length: 32.625"
wheelbase: 14.625"
nose: 7.125"
tail: 6.625"
medium concave
standard popsicle shape
Like this one, as already posted in the other thread, but pics of top, bottom and side too:
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/en/real-team-oval-pearl-patterns-8-75-deck-multi_p140351
I normally ride the 8.25/14.38. For some unknown, bewildering reason, I decided a few months back that I wanted to try out that 8.75 white eagle. The above dimensions are spot on, except for my length measurement was 32.43", that is prolly because I measured tip-to-tip, and didn't follow bend of nose/tail.
Unrelated: The 8.75" has the exact same shape as the 8.25", it's just bigger. It was a fun board, but I went back to the 8.25" pretty quick.
I think sometimes the exact or precise measurements are a bit funny, but that is more so going by the specs and not so much using a tape measure for the two decimal places.
Another option for a decently wide board is the new Cardiel, coming in at 8.62 x 32.25 with 14.5 wb, as per the AH site:
https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/fall20/ah-2020-del4-04.jpg
One shop I saw had it as 8.6 x 32.4 with 14.6 wb but that still seems shorter than the other DLX 8.75 boards and the 8.6 size works well on Thunder 151s or Indy 159s (had them both set up previously) so it would just be availability.
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More just for the pic - top and bottom - great shape looking at it here:
https://www.slamcity.com/products/anti-hero-862-cardiel-lovers-ii-skateboard-deck
Anti Hero John Cardiel Pro skateboard deck
• Assorted wood stains
• Width 8.62”
• Length 32.25"
• Wheelbase 14.5"
• Concave Medium
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More just for the pic - top and bottom - great shape looking at it here:
https://www.slamcity.com/products/anti-hero-862-cardiel-lovers-ii-skateboard-deck
Anti Hero John Cardiel Pro skateboard deck
• Assorted wood stains
• Width 8.62”
• Length 32.25"
• Wheelbase 14.5"
• Concave Medium
nice thanks. and what’s with that cardi hella tight constriction?
Slam city has great too/bottom pics, it really helps. That lovers series has to be one of worst artwork series I’ve seen in a while though.
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More just for the pic - top and bottom - great shape looking at it here:
https://www.slamcity.com/products/anti-hero-862-cardiel-lovers-ii-skateboard-deck
Anti Hero John Cardiel Pro skateboard deck
• Assorted wood stains
• Width 8.62”
• Length 32.25"
• Wheelbase 14.5"
• Concave Medium
Slam city has great too/bottom pics, it really helps. That lovers series has to be one of worst artwork series I’ve seen in a while though.
Had that board, skated it twice. Just too big (long) for me. Re: Hella tight, I think that’s just something Cardiel would say, and it’s slightly shorter/shorter wb than other boards that width. I thought the wb was more 14.6, but I’m forgetting if I got that or 14.5 tbh.
- a short person
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I think sometimes the exact or precise measurements are a bit funny...
They are hilarious, in that totally absurd way.
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the shorter length would be welcomed. And the wb was spot on 14.625”? Can’t say i see that wb measurement often at all. Did you ride mostly transition with it? Got some 151’s coming and wondering which dlx pairing would work well with them
The .62 WB often appears on the 8.5 Full deck. When I measured my 8.75" eagle with a tailor's tape it was like 10/16th or something (e.g. .625), so yeah, spot-on. And yup, the 151s would work great with it (I had Indy 159s on it). And NO, I did NOT mostly ride tranny with it! How absurd is that? I set-it up with 55m Classics (ride 52mm on my 8.25) and even put RAILS on it! I wanted to go outside my comfort zone. It was a tank, but it was fun. And oddly....I broke my leg in 2019. Didn't skate for a year. Hardware. Two surgeries. Started up again in spring 2020. Had to learn to walk again, let alone skate. Where am I going with this? I oddly did my first fakie ollie to fakie 5-0 grind again (since breaking my leg) on the 8.75" tank! I actually liked it more on street than I did on transition!
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the shorter length would be welcomed. And the wb was spot on 14.625”? Can’t say i see that wb measurement often at all. Did you ride mostly transition with it? Got some 151’s coming and wondering which dlx pairing would work well with them
The .62 WB often appears on the 8.5 Full deck. When I measured my 8.75" eagle with a tailor's tape it was like 10/16th or something (e.g. .625), so yeah, spot-on. And yup, the 151s would work great with it (I had Indy 159s on it). And NO, I did NOT mostly ride tranny with it! How absurd is that? I set-it up with 55m Classics (ride 52mm on my 8.25) and even put RAILS on it! I wanted to go outside my comfort zone. It was a tank, but it was fun. And oddly....I broke my leg in 2019. Didn't skate for a year. Hardware. Two surgeries. Started up again in spring 2020. Had to learn to walk again, let alone skate. Where am I going with this? I oddly did my first fakie ollie to fakie 5-0 grind again (since breaking my leg) on the 8.75" tank! I actually liked it more on street than I did on transition!
that’s great! Got a pic? Well done coming back from your broken leg and surgeries. Good to hear bc I don’t ride much transition either.
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that’s great! Got a pic? Well done coming back from your broken leg and surgeries. Good to hear bc I don’t ride much transition either.
Thank you for the kind words. A pic of...what? The 8.75"? My broken leg? Skating (that is me doing a b/s disaster in sig file...pre-leg break)? They removed some hardware on the second surgery. I kept it. I now use it to scrape grip tape when setting up a new deck. ;D And I actually skate a lot of mini ramp these days (I'm old)...the wb on the 8.75" seemed a bit sluggish on the 4' and 5' ramps I often skate. It would probably be a killer deck on bigger ramps.
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While we're talking about dlx shapes. Anybody have the dimensions for the 8.28 shape they put out semi-regularly? I for some reason cannot find them anywhere
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While we're talking about dlx shapes. Anybody have the dimensions for the 8.28 shape they put out semi-regularly? I for some reason cannot find them anywhere
Yup. That guy has not been around for AWHILE. Here are my measurements when I had one (I actually keep this shit in an Excel sheet because I am super DLX deck nerd).
Length: 31.5 (measured tip to tip, not following bend of nose/tail)
Width: 8.18 (yes, you read that correctly)
WB: 14.125
Nose: 6.875
Tail: 6.437
The specs decal for that one read 8.28, 31.7, 14.12. It was definitely a small, short deck w/very round nose/tail.
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While we're talking about dlx shapes. Anybody have the dimensions for the 8.28 shape they put out semi-regularly? I for some reason cannot find them anywhere
Yup. That guy has not been around for AWHILE. Here are my measurements when I had one (I actually keep this shit in an Excel sheet because I am super DLX deck nerd).
Length: 31.5 (measured tip to tip, not following bend of nose/tail)
Width: 8.18 (yes, you read that correctly)
WB: 14.125
Nose: 6.875
Tail: 6.437
The specs decal for that one read 8.28, 31.7, 14.12. It was definitely a small, short deck w/very round nose/tail.
Appreciate it! Nice and thorough. Been enjoying screwing around on an 8 inch deck with 139s and I think I'll pick up this shape though due to the shortness. Also doesn't hurt that this is rumoured to be what Mason rides. New antihero drop has one with these dims fyi if you're wanting another
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Appreciate it! Nice and thorough. Been enjoying screwing around on an 8 inch deck with 139s and I think I'll pick up this shape though due to the shortness. Also doesn't hurt that this is rumoured to be what Mason rides. New antihero drop has one with these dims fyi if you're wanting another
Glad to be of help. I loved the 8.28 for tre flips, but hated it for everything else. It felt too cramped for me. Like, on ollies it didn't feel like I could fully expand my legs to get full force/pop. 5-0 grinds felt unstable, like I had both feet on the tail, etc. It's really mind-blowing what small changes to WB and length can have.
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I loved the 8.28 for tre flips, but hated it for everything else. It felt too cramped for me. Like, on ollies it didn't feel like I could fully expand my legs to get full force/pop. 5-0 grinds felt unstable, like I had both feet on the tail, etc. It's really mind-blowing what small changes to WB and length can have.
THIS 100%
Disclaimer :5'7"
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I loved the 8.28 for tre flips, but hated it for everything else. It felt too cramped for me. Like, on ollies it didn't feel like I could fully expand my legs to get full force/pop. 5-0 grinds felt unstable, like I had both feet on the tail, etc. It's really mind-blowing what small changes to WB and length can have.
Disclaimer :5'7"
I'm 5'11...so, you can do that math. :)
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You know what about DLX boards are also of? DLX board prices! Scrolling CCS today and saw this:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50861393811_147fa474e0_z.jpg)
$74.95 for normal, non limited DLX boards. And most other brands are between $62-$66 on CCS, for reference. That raise in price we have all talked about for years is finally upon us!
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You know what about DLX boards are also of? DLX board prices! Scrolling CCS today and saw this:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50861393811_147fa474e0_z.jpg)
$74.95 for normal, non limited DLX boards. And most other brands are between $62-$66 on CCS, for reference. That raise in price we have all talked about for years is finally upon us!
CCS sucks as is usually more expensive than other places. When I see my local hit those numbers, or other on-line stores with a better rep, I’ll believe it.
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Appreciate it! Nice and thorough. Been enjoying screwing around on an 8 inch deck with 139s and I think I'll pick up this shape though due to the shortness. Also doesn't hurt that this is rumoured to be what Mason rides. New antihero drop has one with these dims fyi if you're wanting another
Glad to be of help. I loved the 8.28 for tre flips, but hated it for everything else. It felt too cramped for me. Like, on ollies it didn't feel like I could fully expand my legs to get full force/pop. 5-0 grinds felt unstable, like I had both feet on the tail, etc. It's really mind-blowing what small changes to WB and length can have.
Not dlx, so wrong thread, but i had a doomsayers that was 8.28, also bbs, also short, and it was the shit. Just in general. Maybe was 14”, maybe I wasn’t so precious. That board was great tho.
Also, short
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While we're talking about dlx shapes. Anybody have the dimensions for the 8.28 shape they put out semi-regularly? I for some reason cannot find them anywhere
Maybe with covid there were some shapes that were put on the back burner, but I had one through the shop, the AH Cardiel Yuppy deck which was 8.28 (yes bigger than 8.25) but it was short, so I passed it on to another guy I know who likes shorter boards.
https://fasttimes.com.au/antihero-yuppy-dog-deck-cardiel-8-28.html
Same dimensions as this one too:
https://www.ocdskateshop.com.au/products/anti-hero-john-cardiel-jalopi-skate-co-8-28-skateboard-deck
WIDTH
8.28
LENGTH
31.65
WHEEL BASE
14.125
There is another one out, which is the short 8.12 that is more common, currently out in the latest AH run, the Taylor in the Lovers series, and the Krooked Cromer and Drehobl.
Specs say 8.12 x 31.38 with 14.0 wheelbase and I have seen one in another shop, but have not measured it.
https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/fall20/ah-2020-del4-04.jpg
https://krookedskateboarding.com/fall20/kr-2020-del-4-06.jpg
https://krookedskateboarding.com/fall20/kr-2020-del-4-08.jpg
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Appreciate it! Nice and thorough. Been enjoying screwing around on an 8 inch deck with 139s and I think I'll pick up this shape though due to the shortness. Also doesn't hurt that this is rumoured to be what Mason rides. New antihero drop has one with these dims fyi if you're wanting another
Glad to be of help. I loved the 8.28 for tre flips, but hated it for everything else. It felt too cramped for me. Like, on ollies it didn't feel like I could fully expand my legs to get full force/pop. 5-0 grinds felt unstable, like I had both feet on the tail, etc. It's really mind-blowing what small changes to WB and length can have.
Not dlx, so wrong thread, but i had a doomsayers that was 8.28, also bbs, also short, and it was the shit. Just in general. Maybe was 14”, maybe I wasn’t so precious. That board was great tho.
Also, short
Good timing!
I had just widened the search to "8.28 deck" and those Doomsayers also came up, currently in stock, as are the new old AH reissues which are on the 8.28 size board, as per the pic of CCS above in this thread.
Width: 8.28″
Length: 31.65″
Wheelbase: 14.125″
They are out there still, it would seem.
The Real Mason oval is also the 8.28 with shorter length and wb, as per CCS site, but there might still be more.
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I hated that 8.28 shape, but love a Polar 8 that is only .2in longer. The Polar has more fingers of flat for sure.
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I hated that 8.28 shape, but love a Polar 8 that is only .2in longer. The Polar has more fingers of flat for sure.
Polar 8 was perfect, when I skated indys.
I want to try one of the 8.12s, Julien’s board was frequently on that size, never could catch it at the shop. The real goat.
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That lovers series has to be one of worst artwork series I’ve seen in a while though.
Re graphic - I have seen a couple of people use the excess grip to get rid of the animals from that board, which turned out really nice, wood grain, big ANTI HERO down lower, etc.
Funny though, they really are a "wow love it!" or "damn get rid of it!" kind of graphic with not much in between ground.
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thought I would weigh in: I have two AH that were both marketed and had a sticker with 8.5 and actually ARE 8.5, so all good and proper
also have one 8.5 santa cruz, the width is all the same on all three
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Some awesome new boards that may or may not be the right sizes from Real and Antihero up now.
https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/
https://www.realskateboards.com/
Probably not long before Krooked is up too.
https://krookedskateboarding.com/
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You know what about DLX boards are also of? DLX board prices! Scrolling CCS today and saw this:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50861393811_147fa474e0_z.jpg)
$74.95 for normal, non limited DLX boards. And most other brands are between $62-$66 on CCS, for reference. That raise in price we have all talked about for years is finally upon us!
My shop still sells them for 50 to 55 dollars. Sometimes 40 depending on how big the brand is.
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You know what about DLX boards are also of? DLX board prices! Scrolling CCS today and saw this:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50861393811_147fa474e0_z.jpg)
$74.95 for normal, non limited DLX boards. And most other brands are between $62-$66 on CCS, for reference. That raise in price we have all talked about for years is finally upon us!
And that is why you don't go to CCS. Try like any other on-line shop. You won't see those prices.
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Some awesome new boards that may or may not be the right sizes from Real and Antihero up now.
https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/
https://www.realskateboards.com/
Probably not long before Krooked is up too.
https://krookedskateboarding.com/
No Twin Tail and no Cardiel football. Probably a good thing as I have a good few boards to get through before I should even think of getting anymore. But I hope both of those come back this summer.
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Some awesome new boards that may or may not be the right sizes from Real and Antihero up now.
https://www.antiheroskateboards.com/
https://www.realskateboards.com/
Probably not long before Krooked is up too.
https://krookedskateboarding.com/
No Twin Tail and no Cardiel football. Probably a good thing as I have a good few boards to get through before I should even think of getting anymore. But I hope both of those come back this summer.
I think someone from DLX maybe on insta said the twin were definitely in production, so yeah might drop later, still the Krooked drop yet too...
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Looking forward to Krooked drop...hoping they either give Barbee a brown bomber shape, or just put his name on the 9.8 Gonz so i can finally buy that deck!
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Looking forward to Krooked drop...hoping they either give Barbee a brown bomber shape, or just put his name on the 9.8 Gonz so i can finally buy that deck!
he was just featured with 2 boards the clouds and flames shapes. You think they do another unique for him so soon?
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Looking forward to Krooked drop...hoping they either give Barbee a brown bomber shape, or just put his name on the 9.8 Gonz so i can finally buy that deck!
No...im just hoping...but i still have 2 brown bombers to go through...so also hope that if they do, they do it in a few months time
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My Quasi was listed at 31.75, but is much shorter than a Baker OG shape at 31.5. I’ll admit, I was a bit annoyed by this.
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My Quasi was listed at 31.75, but is much shorter than a Baker OG shape at 31.5. I’ll admit, I was a bit annoyed by this.
If the Quasi is PS Stix, that's is because PS measures with tape pressed down against the kicks to get the "true length."
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My Quasi was listed at 31.75, but is much shorter than a Baker OG shape at 31.5. I’ll admit, I was a bit annoyed by this.
what width was this?
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I had a dream about the new 8.4 Peter Hewitt Grimple deck last night.
Damn it, I might have to open the wallet and step down from an 8.5 to see what it is going to unlock for me.
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My Quasi was listed at 31.75, but is much shorter than a Baker OG shape at 31.5. I’ll admit, I was a bit annoyed by this.
8.125. The RU Dumb deck. Delaminated after three total hours of light skating, too. Yeah it was PS Stix.
“True length”, that’s just annoying.
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8.125. The RU Dumb deck. Delaminated after three total hours of light skating, too. Yeah it was PS Stix. “True length”, that’s just annoying.
Yeah, it's weird how companies have different philosophies when it comes to just measuring numbers. PS measures deck length/width with the tape pressed in, uses his own fingers as a form of measurement of flat (two of his are probably 3 of mine.) Heroin measures wheelbase from the edge of the holes as opposed to the center of the holes... but only sometimes. It becomes tedious to try and memorize each company's way of measuring.
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8.125. The RU Dumb deck. Delaminated after three total hours of light skating, too. Yeah it was PS Stix. “True length”, that’s just annoying.
Yes!!!!
Why can't measure it properly? The width of a finger is anyone's guess
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I miss when DLX boards were almost always top and bottom layers dyed, plus the second from top and bottom dyed as well. They look so much nicer with that lay-up, and it was practically their signature for years. Seems like they've abandoned it now, though I do see Polar running that lay-up. In classic DLX colors too, using yellow or pink for the top and bottom with a dark teal or blue for the second layers. Used to see that combo a lot in DLX boards.
It is funny with the different colours and the different periods of how they were pressed, but for a long time there was top and second top coloured, then second bottom, but I don't think people really liked the plain bottom so they switched it up. Baker boys still do it that way, one colour on top with a colour through the middle, so the bottom is plain.
I should take a pic or two of a few different ways the DLX boards have changed over the years too, as they were very much standard in certain ways for a long time.
Now it looks like top, second, then bottom only coloured from all the recent boards, and different top to bottom, whereas some companies always do the top and bottom the same.
Please do this. Would be super interested.
So I finally got round to getting out some boards, and although I couldn't take good close ups, this one is probably the best to show the different colour layups, on the third pic. Info as per instagram post:
Also to note in the third pic which is very era specific, from what I can recall all the same up until just after this time, the layup of the coloured ply, which were always top (yellow), second top (purple or other colour) and second bottom (same as the second top purple) with a raw layer right on the bottom. Some that I had also had a slightly different mix, with a top coloured (orange) and middle coloured (purple) only, which is still the same for some other companies who use the same woodshop.
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Boards after that time, maybe 2009 to 2010 onwards all had coloured top and coloured bottom layers and that has remained a constant since. It has varied somewhat, but for a while had two top and two bottom, usually opposing colours right beside each other, but the top was the same as the bottom, second top same as the second bottom, eg top yellow, green, plain x three in the middle, then green and yellow on the bottom too as per the pics of the decks side.
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Lastly boards changed again, so they often had top (yellow), opposing second top (green), plain x four in the middle, then a bottom coloured ply only (yellow, same as the top). These other boards in the last pic are mostly the Antihero black eagle 8.12 that I had so many of from about 2009 until maybe 2019 when I went up to bigger boards, but I still have quite a few.
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If you hadn't guessed and as I have said before, yellow tops were the best, as were orange tops, and I bought more of them than any other colours.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CLjMLF3lWIC/
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Anyone know if Krooked has changed woodshops ?
I just recieved the Kevin Taylor guest board yesterday, it had Roman numeral II engraved in between the front bolts. First time I’ve seen this for BBS.
It had the Made in Mexico sticker, but I don’t remember having a BBS this sloppy. The edges are sharp and some parts rougher than others, there’s places you can tell too much paint has been applied (leak marks) and it’s the widest 8.25 i’ve ever had, it’s somewhere in between an old 8.38 Killing Floor that’s on my wall and an 8.5 Passport I skated. I can’t find my tape measure, so I can’t measure it to the exact mm, but it’s wide for an 8.25
I wanted it for my wall, but those paint leak marks shine weird in the light.
I’ll be sticking to South Central once again, I find them to be the most consistent.
Your post made me think of this thread, where people often say the 8.5 feels more like 8.3 and the 8.25 feels wider than any other 8.25 out there.
Still BBS, always DLX but I would be interested in pics of what you are talking about, the graphic issue that is.
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(https://i.ibb.co/r24XmHH/21962723-A241-4-F7-E-A7-EB-FC041-B90390-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/r24XmHH)(https://i.ibb.co/SQWVz16/E549-E7-AA-DF04-4-C83-A827-7-D7-D8-ED0-C583.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SQWVz16)(https://i.ibb.co/SRJm10f/601135-DB-BFA9-4091-9-FB3-119-BF60-B7753.jpg) (https://ibb.co/SRJm10f)
Here’s some photo evidence. This is a brand new Real 8.5 stamped I. Compared to a grimplestix deck of the same dimensions but stamped IV it measures and appears a hair thinner. Also something I noticed is that these decks are slightly closer to 8.5 towards the front of the deck and then slim down towards 8.38. And maybe I’m just bad at measuring wb but that definitely looks to be more of a 14 than 14.25. Not mad at all I love this shape and dimensions just interesting
I returned this exact deck last week for that reason, was setting up an 8.5" on some new 149s, and the taper was insane, even at its widest point the deck wasn't near 8.5"
went with an 8.5" hockey in the end as i ideally wanted true 8.5" and straight rails.
Deffo seemed on the small side for an 8.5", reminds me of the Crailtap G027 which is supposedly 8.25", but in reality nowhere near.
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Anyone know if Krooked has changed woodshops ?
I just recieved the Kevin Taylor guest board yesterday, it had Roman numeral II engraved in between the front bolts. First time I’ve seen this for BBS.
It had the Made in Mexico sticker, but I don’t remember having a BBS this sloppy. The edges are sharp and some parts rougher than others, there’s places you can tell too much paint has been applied (leak marks) and it’s the widest 8.25 i’ve ever had, it’s somewhere in between an old 8.38 Killing Floor that’s on my wall and an 8.5 Passport I skated. I can’t find my tape measure, so I can’t measure it to the exact mm, but it’s wide for an 8.25
I wanted it for my wall, but those paint leak marks shine weird in the light.
I’ll be sticking to South Central once again, I find them to be the most consistent.
Your post made me think of this thread, where people often say the 8.5 feels more like 8.3 and the 8.25 feels wider than any other 8.25 out there.
Still BBS, always DLX but I would be interested in pics of what you are talking about, the graphic issue that is.
The Roman numeral thing on the other post was my bad, I didn’t know, this is my first DLX board in five years.
Just measured it, and it’s a hair over 8 3/8, so slightly under 8.4 even if it had the 8.25 sticker on it.
As for the paint/dye, I don’t know if I’m the one freaking out, but as I said that’s all I see when light hits it, and that sucks for a limited edition wall hanger.
There’s three streaks, only one really shows up when I take a picture, but when I have the board in my hand I can see all three clearly. The one in the middle goes all the way up the nose but can’t be seen on photo.
https://ibb.co/ZNYrghn
https://ibb.co/wgKzzWZ
https://ibb.co/P4ByZrW
https://ibb.co/yXrj90r
Also, the sanding is much rougher and a little uneven in some places, never had that problem with BBS, this one just looks dowright sloppy. It’s not warped though, so that’s good.
I thought I’d skate it, but 8.4 is too wide for me. Guess I’ll put it in the darkest corner of my living room.
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^I could be off my ass here but that looks like a bad sand job. It's even a sorta curved line like the arc you would do with a hand sander. I think they just missed a few spots on that bottom ply?
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^I could be off my ass here but that looks like a bad sand job. It's even a sorta curved line like the arc you would do with a hand sander. I think they just missed a few spots on that bottom ply?
That could very well be it, I can feel it with my fingers.
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Anyone know if Krooked has changed woodshops ?
I just recieved the Kevin Taylor guest board yesterday, it had Roman numeral II engraved in between the front bolts. First time I’ve seen this for BBS.
It had the Made in Mexico sticker, but I don’t remember having a BBS this sloppy. The edges are sharp and some parts rougher than others, there’s places you can tell too much paint has been applied (leak marks) and it’s the widest 8.25 i’ve ever had, it’s somewhere in between an old 8.38 Killing Floor that’s on my wall and an 8.5 Passport I skated. I can’t find my tape measure, so I can’t measure it to the exact mm, but it’s wide for an 8.25
I wanted it for my wall, but those paint leak marks shine weird in the light.
I’ll be sticking to South Central once again, I find them to be the most consistent.
Your post made me think of this thread, where people often say the 8.5 feels more like 8.3 and the 8.25 feels wider than any other 8.25 out there.
Still BBS, always DLX but I would be interested in pics of what you are talking about, the graphic issue that is.
The Roman numeral thing on the other post was my bad, I didn’t know, this is my first DLX board in five years.
Just measured it, and it’s a hair over 8 3/8, so slightly under 8.4 even if it had the 8.25 sticker on it.
As for the paint/dye, I don’t know if I’m the one freaking out, but as I said that’s all I see when light hits it, and that sucks for a limited edition wall hanger.
There’s three streaks, only one really shows up when I take a picture, but when I have the board in my hand I can see all three clearly. The one in the middle goes all the way up the nose but can’t be seen on photo.
https://ibb.co/ZNYrghn
https://ibb.co/wgKzzWZ
https://ibb.co/P4ByZrW
https://ibb.co/yXrj90r
Also, the sanding is much rougher and a little uneven in some places, never had that problem with BBS, this one just looks dowright sloppy. It’s not warped though, so that’s good.
I thought I’d skate it, but 8.4 is too wide for me. Guess I’ll put it in the darkest corner of my living room.
Those marks remind me more of when boards are in boxes and someone drags the deck out across the nose / tail of another board, not necessarily tearing the shrink wrap but definitely making marks on the boards.
I recall some people being so rough with the decks when packing / getting them out that would always leave marks on the boards, which don't really matter much if you are skating them, but I have seen people not buy boards or get upset when the "perfect graphic" seems not so perfect with things like that.
Regarding the size, I would be curious as to the dimensions, as those were supposed to be 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb.
Almost seems that a lot of boards that were supposed to be as per the catalog ended up on about 8.4 sized decks, whether they were 8.5 or 8.25 as listed and advertised.
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Let's go back to circa 2015 or so. We noticed something at the local shop. All of the DLX boards had the round "size stickers" on them. These stickers all included the width, length, and wheelbase. Well, that is, all but ONE. The blue classic eagle always came with a sticker that ONLY listed width. More often than not, these decks had a "dot" on the top stamp, instead of the roman numeral. We started paying close attention to the dimensions on the blue eagles that were coming in. While the shape was basically the same, the dimensions were all over the place, esp. the wheelbase. It ranged from 14.1, 14.25, 14.38, and if I recall there was even a few 14.5. We surmised that the width-only "size sticker," and the "dot" somehow indicated the DLX did not know, or was not in control, of how these decks were coming out. Production wise, something was certainly off with those decks, at least in terms of dimension consistancy. Around the time AH started listing wheelbase on their web site, is when the blue eagle "stabelized," and we started seeing it arrive with the "size sticker" that included all three dimensions.
Did anyone else notice, or remember this? I had forgotten about it, until a few weeks ago when I saw an 8.28" Mason Silva (Natas graphics). That is supposed to have a 14.1' wheelbase. It didn't. It had a 14.25"...and it also had a "dot" on the top sheet, and not a roman numeral. Memories of the blue eagle incidents then came flooding back...
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I've recently been on a purchasing spree. Hitting local shops and buying and trying several boards. The DLX board shapes and concave spoke to me. So I've purchased 3 of them. A kyle walker 8.5 with the bird and teal color. Great quality board, great shape, is wearing well. An Evan smith grimple stix (grimple snips 8.25), this too is a quality shape and build. My third purchase is the Natas art baby blue Mason silva 8.2 something. This board is just different, physical shape is somewhat similar but concave is considerably flatter. Also the Mason Silva quality is lower. The wood is softer and after sliding the nose and mid board the graphic kind of peel off..and underneath as one of the veneers or something felt like a cheap wood like Luan or cardboard feeling. Definitely felt of a different quality. But the other two are awesome decks, great shape, pop, durability.
Don't mean to de-rail just wanted to comment on the previous post. I'll have to measure to see if what I have is consistent with some of the findings.
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Been a minute, so how are the latest drop of boards measuring up?
All the most recent DLX decks I had that actually had I to IV were true to size (including the 8.5 x 32.25 with 14.38 wb), but the few without those stamps and only the dot were different dimensions to what the graphic was listed as.
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Pisses me off that even the average 8.25 decks have slightly different measurements. I want the exact same thing everytime and would like to ride some more graphics.
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Nah dude the normal 8.25x14.38 is always the same. It's actually an 8.3, but literally always the same unless it's labeled FULL SE
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Nah dude the normal 8.25x14.38 is always the same. It's actually an 8.3, but literally always the same unless it's labeled FULL SE
Ok than the shops specs I looked at are totally off.
Never had a wheelbase over 14.25. you think it will affect file tricks? Only concerns are tricks like 540 shuvs or forward flips.
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Is the Ishod 8.3 actually 8.3? It feels smaller.
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My recent Manderson and Haus F|SE were dimensionally accurate/as listed; I was hoping the Haus would be closer to 8.3 but it's actually 8.25".
As for the Ishod twin (or Worrest) I've skate quite a few of them; they're always accurate. They're so specialized my guess is they'd have to be.
If I had to guess, the 'specialized' shapes: TT, Manderson, FULL SEs (and perhaps that 'Julian' shape), get better eyes on them during manu.
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Nah dude the normal 8.25x14.38 is always the same. It's actually an 8.3, but literally always the same unless it's labeled FULL SE
Ok than the shops specs I looked at are totally off.
Never had a wheelbase over 14.25. you think it will affect file tricks? Only concerns are tricks like 540 shuvs or forward flips.
Can't comment as those are 2 tricks that I don't think anyone should be doing in the first place.
Is the Ishod 8.3 actually 8.3? It feels smaller.
Well, the twin tail makes it 1/4" shorter and the kicks taper pretty strongly so it does feel Pinner.
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Do decks like the classic oval 8.25 real have the exact same specs than the 8.25 classic eagle?
Checked the specs of two shops and each shop said different specs. Even the specs of the exact same decks were off in those shops.
Are there that many different shapes of 8.25 real/ah/ krooked decks? Like slightly difference in tail length or wheelbase.
What I like about brands like FA ; it’s always the exact same deck just with a different graphic.
The DLX thread is a good place for this post:
https://www.slapmagazine.com/index.php?topic=85076.0
Quite simply, yes all the normal 8.25 sized boards are the same across the DLX range, that is anything from Real, Antihero and Krooked (as well as There and Unity now too), but it is different to the Twin shape, the Full SE shape or other new shorter specific shapes (Mis Registered Eagle), so there can easily be a few different board shapes in 8.25 in their range, up to four or five at last count.
Most likely the shop has measurements listed incorrectly or haven't specified which shape it is, but that normal 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb is more like 8.3 in width and wider than other stock 8.25 sized boards, when put on top of each other.
Normal: 8.25 x 32 with 14.38 wb
Full SE: 8.25 x 32 with 14.25 wb
Twin: 8.25 x 31.8 with 14.33 wb
Real short version: 8.25 x 31.9 with 14 wb
AH short version: 8.25 x 31.5 with 14 wb
As to FA and most other brands, they usually have their own specific sizes too, possibly only one option on 8.25 decks, which would be used across various graphics and catalogs as most brands don't change up their shapes and sizes too often once they have them sorted.
I can't really think of too many other brands that have such an assortment of different sizes and shapes, but there are a few that have a short and a long version of the same widths, none as complex as DLX though.
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Is the Ishod 8.3 actually 8.3? It feels smaller.
From having all these boards together in one place, I have these measurements to add:
The 8.3 twin is wider than the 8.25 twin, but not the normal 8.25 regular board, pretty much the same width.
The normal 8.38 is significantly wider than the 8.3 twin too (almost 8.5 really), but overall the 8.3 twin is actually 8.3 in width.
The board listed as 8.5 x 31.85 with 14.25 wb (blue eagle) from the latest drop is only just wider than the 8.3 twin but not as wide as the normal 8.38 board, yet the much older blue eagle with same listed dimensions, from maybe ten years ago is way wider than everything else talked about so far and is actually 8.5 at the widest point, but the shape does taper significantly from front to back. All other boards are fairly straight through the rail.
* Sorry I don't mean to sound overbearing. Just one of those things I like to check, especially with all these boards together.
The 8.25 Full SE is exactly 8.25 wide as well, not wider like the normal 8.25 boards. I haven't seen either of the Real or AH shorter boards to be able to check measurements, so cannot comment on those.
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Now I’m confused.
So those decks are not the exact same shape, or is it a mistake by the shop?
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/anti-hero-team-classic-eagle-8-25-skateboard-deck-grey_p109698?eav=232&cPath=42&brand_id=103,175,105
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/real-team-classic-oval-8-25-skateboard-deck-black_p144358?eav=232&cPath=42&brand_id=103,175,105
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/krooked-cromer-high-hopes-8-25-skateboard-deck-taupe_p156281?eav=232&cPath=42&brand_id=103,175,105
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Now I’m confused.
So those decks are not the exact same shape, or is it a mistake by the shop?
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/anti-hero-team-classic-eagle-8-25-skateboard-deck-grey_p109698?eav=232&cPath=42&brand_id=103,175,105
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/real-team-classic-oval-8-25-skateboard-deck-black_p144358?eav=232&cPath=42&brand_id=103,175,105
https://www.skatedeluxe.com/de/krooked-cromer-high-hopes-8-25-skateboard-deck-taupe_p156281?eav=232&cPath=42&brand_id=103,175,105
All 3 should be the same dimensions. The different 8.25s variations are already mentioned above and they usually are labeled properly online.
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Thanks!
Anybody knows what shape supreme decks in 2016 had?
I was skating an 8.25.
Is it the same as an 8.25 AH?
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Thanks!
Anybody knows what shape supreme decks in 2016 had?
I was skating an 8.25.
Is it the same as an 8.25 AH?
I would have a guess and say most likely not.
Going back that far, I don't know what wood those boards were on, but think they would have been about 8.25 x 31.8 with 14.25 wb, which is more common than anything else.
The weirdest thing with any of my old boards, is they work better in my head than they do in real life.
There are so many different concaves and shapes, but to be fair they all end up much the same for someone who is not super in tune with their equipment, or has crazy OCD like me, so in thinking back to whatever you had, don't live in the past and get something that works for you right now.
The DLX 8.25 board is the most commonly skated in the whole DLX range, by both their pro riders and everyone else, but given everyone is different, find something that works for you, either from what they have or other boards from whoever you can get your hands on.
Go into shops if you can, stand on them and feel out what might work better. That is the best thing to do.
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Thanks. I might try a real 8.25 next but am a bit worried that the length and for me kind of big wheelbase is too much. Quasi and GX 8.25s are fine, so maybe not really making a difference.