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Title: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fs1/2cab on February 07, 2021, 10:48:16 AM
I tried the search function, but maybe this could be a thread were we discuss comfy cupsole shoes. Kook me if there is already a topic for that.

What are you wearing?
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Post by: ok boomer on February 07, 2021, 10:54:19 AM
Nike sb team classic and Adidas 3st.004. Both good for the feets
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Post by: Gary Bucket on February 07, 2021, 11:03:34 AM
Adidas 3st.004. On my 3rd straight pair. TTS, decent width if needed but not tailored for wide feet I’d say
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Post by: Urtripping on February 07, 2021, 11:15:11 AM
Adidas 3st.004. On my 3rd straight pair. TTS, decent width if needed but not tailored for wide feet I’d say

Always liked the looks of those crazy tech adidas cups, even the 3st.003. There's an all black pair on Nordstrom rack that are nice and affordable, it's tempting...

I am really interested in hearing how NB# cups skate (aside from the 440 hi, which I know are great). The 1010's are my cup of tea style wise but I wonder how they feel... I also like the look of the 913. Are they still making that shoe?
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Post by: arrbee on February 07, 2021, 11:24:10 AM
Crockett highs
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Post by: Deletniez on February 07, 2021, 11:26:06 AM
eS accel slim / accel slim plus are good if you can get them on sale. Same goes for the Lakai Manchester XLK. Stay away from the romero laced... unless you want heel bruises for days lol. I just got the Adidas Tyshawns and they feel super comfy & skate well so far.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fs1/2cab on February 07, 2021, 11:32:18 AM
eS accel slim / accel slim plus are good if you can get them on sale. Same goes for the Lakai Manchester XLK. Stay away from the romero laced... unless you want heel bruises for days lol. I just got the Adidas Tyshawns and they feel super comfy & skate well so far.

I am a believer of Manchester XLKs, currently on some ^^.
Didn't knew these are a cupsole. I never paid too much attention to my shoes in my younger years. Probably a reason why I have hip and ankle problems now. 
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: hobochimp on February 07, 2021, 12:05:16 PM
I got the tyshawns on sale a while back and have skated them a bit now and I’m liking them way more than I thought. Feels really good for me when I don’t land flat ground tricks (which is most of the time). Feel slightly snug in the toe but I’d say still go tts
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Post by: z_tx on February 07, 2021, 01:51:56 PM
New Balance 1010, Adidas Tyshawn
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Joe Davola on February 07, 2021, 01:56:48 PM
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Adidas 3st.004. On my 3rd straight pair. TTS, decent width if needed but not tailored for wide feet I’d say
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Always liked the looks of those crazy tech adidas cups, even the 3st.003. There's an all black pair on Nordstrom rack that are nice and affordable, it's tempting...

I’ve been wearing a pair of .004s for about a year and a half now. Great for everyday life.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Mr. Stinky on February 07, 2021, 02:02:19 PM
Good recommendations in here. Lots of people love the AVE pros, but they were a little narrow for me. Crockett/Crockett hi get rave reviews, tts when I tried them on.  I’ll have to snag some when I can find them on sale. I thought the Tyshauns were vulc, but I guess I’m wrong?
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Post by: yourbreakfsat on February 07, 2021, 02:16:46 PM
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eS accel slim / accel slim plus are good if you can get them on sale. Same goes for the Lakai Manchester XLK. Stay away from the romero laced... unless you want heel bruises for days lol. I just got the Adidas Tyshawns and they feel super comfy & skate well so far.
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I am a believer of Manchester XLKs, currently on some ^^.
Didn't knew these are a cupsole. I never paid too much attention to my shoes in my younger years. Probably a reason why I have hip and ankle problems now.

Vouching for Lakai Manchester XLKs as well! Such a good shoe; a thinner cupsole but still has some ankle padding. Obviously needs some breaking in before skating though.

The Newport XLK is great as well if you want a slimmer cupsole without the ankle padding the Manchester XLK has.
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Post by: j....soy..... on February 07, 2021, 02:18:00 PM
Tyshawns are very cup....
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Post by: flintstagram on February 07, 2021, 02:38:42 PM
I would say if you get a chance, try the Emerica G6 sole. The G6 Reynolds is the greatest skate shoe I've ever had. Super comfy, well built. Unfortunately, they discontinued it when the boss left, and the only G6 cupsole on the market right now is the spanky g6, which isn't as padded as I like up top. Even more so than the padding though, I would destroy a shoelace pretty much every session. Those metal eyelets and my flick were not a good pairing.

Emerica keeps telling me they've got more G6 cups on the way, but they've been telling me that story for like the last year. I'm starting to feel misled. For real though, the G6 sole is the cupsole to get. I just keep waiting for that new stuff to come out.
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Post by: moonordie on February 07, 2021, 03:21:47 PM
Right now I'm skating the Adidas Copa Nationale and I'm loving them.
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Post by: oyolar on February 07, 2021, 03:50:50 PM
Love the AVE Pro but they are narrow. I like my pair of Lakai Carrolls too but it seems like opinion on those vary widely. Haven’t skated them yet, but the Spanky G6 feel good and can’t wait to get the Wino Slip G6.

And of course, Proper makes good feeling, affordable cupsoles
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: S. on February 07, 2021, 03:59:58 PM
The vans Kyle Walker pro (the first one) is pretty good. The cupsole lasts forever. The upper material isn‘t very good, but if you use shoe goo the shoe will last you for a very Long time. It‘s a very good shoe for wide feet.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: munchbox on February 07, 2021, 04:16:13 PM
tyshawns for availability
dunks if your lucky and/or rich
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: topfrog10 on February 07, 2021, 06:29:59 PM
Crockett highs
how's the toe paneling on these? One light sesh in my crockett lows and I've already made a noticeable flick mark.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: chris. on February 07, 2021, 06:53:43 PM
I have these white leather Liberty Cups that won’t give up and I can’t let them go.  I get the hang ups with the looks, but they really might be literally the most comfortable shoes I have worn.

I have some 440 Hi to skate next. Want to skate 1010s and Tyshawns. Will probably skate some $40 Liberty Cups. I can’t recommend Legacy Slims enough either.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Lloyd Braun on February 07, 2021, 07:08:27 PM
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Adidas 3st.004. On my 3rd straight pair. TTS, decent width if needed but not tailored for wide feet I’d say
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Always liked the looks of those crazy tech adidas cups, even the 3st.003. There's an all black pair on Nordstrom rack that are nice and affordable, it's tempting...

I am really interested in hearing how NB# cups skate (aside from the 440 hi, which I know are great). The 1010's are my cup of tea style wise but I wonder how they feel... I also like the look of the 913. Are they still making that shoe?

I can vouch for the 1010’s, skate great. They look kinda crazy online, but they are pretty slim in person or at least slimmer than I had in my mind. I have a pair of 440 hi’s, but just for going out in they feel a bit thin to skate for my personal preference. Like NBs cup soles a lot and haven’t skated anything else in 3 years.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FUBAR on February 07, 2021, 07:21:38 PM
DC Lynx Zeros, and you can find them cheap.
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Post by: lazer69 on February 07, 2021, 07:25:24 PM
es contract.


Wear them about for a few weeks before skating, that helps with break in. They last long.
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Post by: kimura on February 07, 2021, 08:06:15 PM
Tyshawns look they would be perfect for me. I’ve been looking for a cup sole mid or high top. Those look spot on and the reviews are great. The all black ones are sold out everywhere in 11. I gotta have black soles. I might have to settle for grey.

Any other high top or mid cup soles I should check out?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fulfillthedream on February 07, 2021, 08:31:22 PM
(https://www.fortytwoshop.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/DC-Kalis-S-NavyWhite-Single.jpg)

been skating these the last year, on my 5th pair. amazing cupsole thats normally available under $60


otherwise a lot of people like dunks, pretty solid shoe. adidas makes a lot of good cupsoles like the og busenitz, tyshawns etc

lakai, emerica, etnies have em too
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Post by: formula420 on February 07, 2021, 08:42:25 PM
Marana Michelin
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Post by: gsosa on February 07, 2021, 08:44:37 PM
(https://www.fortytwoshop.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/DC-Kalis-S-NavyWhite-Single.jpg)

been skating these the last year, on my 5th pair. amazing cupsole thats normally available under $60


otherwise a lot of people like dunks, pretty solid shoe. adidas makes a lot of good cupsoles like the og busenitz, tyshawns etc

lakai, emerica, etnies have em too
Can vouch for the Kalis S, seriously one of the best shoes out. My only concern would be the blowing out of the lace loops. The Legacy Slims are also fucking excellent.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: oyolar on February 07, 2021, 09:01:21 PM
Tyshawns look they would be perfect for me. I’ve been looking for a cup sole mid or high top. Those look spot on and the reviews are great. The all black ones are sold out everywhere in 11. I gotta have black soles. I might have to settle for grey.

Any other high top or mid cup soles I should check out?

https://proper-skateboarding.myshopify.com/products/cinex-mid-white
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on February 07, 2021, 09:14:55 PM
ES swift or NB 420s!
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Scott Chegg on February 08, 2021, 12:48:42 AM
Nike sb team classic and Adidas 3st.004. Both good for the feets

Adidas 3st.004s are so comfortable will have to get another pair at some point. Adidas Campus ADVs are cupsoles right? If so then they’re great cupsoles
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Murray Hewitt on February 08, 2021, 01:31:08 AM
Ave Pro, Emerica Spanky G6 and NB 440 have all been great experiences personally. All have good balance between boardfeel and cushion. Spanky is probably my #1 pick for overall as a good price and doesn't blow out quick.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Skatebeard on February 08, 2021, 04:23:37 AM
I've been in DCs for a while, but was never a huge fan of how wide they are in the forefoot... I have very skinny ankles and narrow feet. Despite this I would def recommend DC Maswell, I've skated 3 pairs and for the price they are a great cupsole with a good amount of height around the ankle. If you can find a pair still, the DC Tiago S was also fantastic, I had a few pairs of those.

Have been searching for my Goldilocks shoe for ages, and think i've finally found it in the Adidas Tyshawn - very supportive stock insoles, which have an actual arch (unusual for skate shoes IMO), and they are narrow all the way through. Perfect if you have narrow feet...I compared the standard insoles with my Remind Destins and the level of arch support is comparable enough that I don't think I need to use the Destins in the Tyshawns.

Size wise, I would say that the Tyshawns run about 1/4 of a size smaller than DCs...I got away with my usual DC shoe size, but only just.

Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FrozenIndustries on February 08, 2021, 07:32:47 AM
New Balance 440. That is the shoe that made me a cupsole believer. Supportive, grippy, durable, and readily available. They look great and I love that I don't need to do any kind of insole swap to make them feel right.
 
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: baustin on February 08, 2021, 08:43:30 AM
Tyshawn’s shoe is a great option but definitely .5 size up if you have a wider foot. I’ve got a wider foot and wear a 9 in most shoes and the Tyshawn crushed my toes in a 9 but fit like a glove in 9.5. Maybe tts for narrow footers but that was not my experience.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on February 08, 2021, 10:52:06 AM
Ave pros are really good, this been mentioned many times.
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Post by: jsettle on February 08, 2021, 10:55:00 AM
Think I'ma give adidas superstars a shot one day...corey duffel skates the non skate ones (the og regular she'll toes) and says they are super good.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on February 08, 2021, 11:22:26 AM
Surprised no one has mentioned Etnies Marana or Joslin 1 yet. Easily, two of the best current cupsoles. Comfortable, durable, they look great (at least I think so) and skate great!

Marana Mid is another option but those are so hard to find now. Doesn't seem like they're keeping them in production as frequently as the regular Marana.

Will also vouch for these:
- Kalis S and Legacy Slim, but do an insole swap on both of those shoes. Stock DC insoles are garbage most of the time.
- Proper Rook or Cinex, not Conquista, though. Too narrow in the toe for me personally and the heel look isn't as good as the other two from them.
- Emerica Alcove CC, Gamma, Spanky G6 (only if you like super thin uppers though)
- Es Quattro, Evant, Accel Slim Plus (stock insole or swap)
- NB# 1010, 440 (low and hi)
- Adidas Tyshawn, Copa Nationale
- Nike SB Dunks (but we know how difficult these are to get right now...)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: kimura on February 08, 2021, 11:45:10 AM
I love my Joslin 1's. I would buy 1/2 size up though. YMMV
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Post by: Skatebeard on February 08, 2021, 12:16:34 PM
Can also vouch for the Maranas, I had two pairs of lows a few years back and tried the mids out recently.

Only reason I swerved the mids recently is due to them feeling quite wide around the ankle (mine are pretty skinny), but if you have a mid to wide foot, the Maranas are a great shout....the Michelin sole and insoles were particularly impressive.

Has anyone skated the cupsole Lakai Telford highs? I was looking at these but thought they may come up to wide for me...I heard Lakai generally run wide?
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Post by: Wizard0f0dds on February 08, 2021, 12:42:31 PM
Converse Fastbreak Mids are also pretty good, I noticed nobody mentioned them yet.
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Post by: Mesteezo on February 08, 2021, 12:53:12 PM
+1 on the Etnies Maranas, they just feel so good with my wide feet and shitty knees. They’re also super fucking durable and will outlast the majority of skate shoes on the market. If your foot is narrower maybe go with the Joslins instead, they’re just as durable.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Bonafied Playa on February 08, 2021, 01:27:04 PM
eS accel og all day, it is by far the most comfortable shoe ive ever skated, plus they fit like a glove so thats all ive been buying recently
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Post by: anti-bolts on February 08, 2021, 02:11:27 PM
dc lynx og/lukoda

skate warehouse has both in some sizes left for about 60-70 since theres an extra 20 percent off on sale items
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Made In China on February 08, 2021, 03:17:58 PM
I only skate cupsoles that are on the thin side, and I've skated and would highly recommend a lot of the other shoes already recommended in this thread. My top picks are Vans Crockett Highs (lows are great too but I prefer mid or high tops), Cons Fastbreaks, and Emerica Spanky G6s. All three of these are very supportive shoes and still have a decent amount of boardfeel. I also had a pair of the OG Adidas Sambas that skated great and lasted surprisingly long.

For what it's worth, I copped my homie a pair of DC Legacy Silms for this birthday back in like March or April. He was stoked on them and still somehow skating them now, even though there's holes in the soles. I think he just now found some replacement DCs for like $40 online. They're super easy to find for cheap online.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 08, 2021, 03:35:57 PM
Converse Fastbreak Mids are also pretty good, I noticed nobody mentioned them yet.

I've always wanted to check these out but have never seen them local to try on and with cons sizing and some saying size up, others down, I just never bit.

Picked up some 1010s last night on a whim and a discount code as my only other cups are ADIDAS ST003s and I never liked how they gripped, always felt slippery (like most adidas that aren't gum).
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Post by: jamersonbass on February 08, 2021, 03:52:01 PM
Tyshawn's are great.  On my second pair.
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Post by: lemonchicken91 on February 08, 2021, 04:10:19 PM
Does the tysshawn not have the heel drop like the busenitz?

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Post by: MOE SYZLAK on February 08, 2021, 04:25:08 PM
Converse Fastbreak Mids are also pretty good, I noticed nobody mentioned them yet.
Second this. Specially the all suede pairs
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Urtripping on February 08, 2021, 04:56:37 PM
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Converse Fastbreak Mids are also pretty good, I noticed nobody mentioned them yet.
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I've always wanted to check these out but have never seen them local to try on and with cons sizing and some saying size up, others down, I just never bit.

Picked up some 1010s last night on a whim and a discount code as my only other cups are ADIDAS ST003s and I never liked how they gripped, always felt slippery (like most adidas that aren't gum).

How those 1010's fitting? They look comfortable but looks can be deceiving.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Garbagewagon on February 08, 2021, 06:05:09 PM
Think I'ma give adidas superstars a shot one day...corey duffel skates the non skate ones (the og regular she'll toes) and says they are super good.

I know you mentioned the regular ones but I just got a pair of the ADV Superstars in my usual size and they feel big, also super stiff out of the box. I usually do the Busenitz Pro, but wanted to try something different.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Not Fucking Awesome on February 08, 2021, 07:56:31 PM
I like the Spanky g6, and I just picked up the new gammas. Emerica's the only skate shoe I want buy tho.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fulfillthedream on February 08, 2021, 08:25:26 PM
+1 on the Etnies Maranas, they just feel so good with my wide feet and shitty knees. They’re also super fucking durable and will outlast the majority of skate shoes on the market. If your foot is narrower maybe go with the Joslins instead, they’re just as durable.

yes the marana's are reallllyyy good! i had one pair and skated em and loved em.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: switchfrontshuv on February 08, 2021, 09:20:44 PM
reebok club c forever

but also NB 440 and other dunkalikes with decent grip and board feel
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Post by: MusclesMarinara on February 08, 2021, 10:15:55 PM
Has anyone skated the cupsole Lakai Telford highs? I was looking at these but thought they may come up to wide for me...I heard Lakai generally run wide?

Been looking at those too. No shops or Big Zs in my area have them in stock to try on though.
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Post by: Diocletian on February 09, 2021, 07:32:40 AM
My vote goes for the Emerica Figgy Dose. Amazing shoes.
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Post by: roba on February 09, 2021, 08:00:52 AM
Think I'ma give adidas superstars a shot one day...corey duffel skates the non skate ones (the og regular she'll toes) and says they are super good.

i can vouch for them too, im on my 6th pair now, just make sure that theyre snug because if theyre too big the toe separates from the leather on the sides but that could be just me. i got them half a size smaller and that problem went away and theyre amazing now
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 09, 2021, 09:19:48 AM
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Converse Fastbreak Mids are also pretty good, I noticed nobody mentioned them yet.
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I've always wanted to check these out but have never seen them local to try on and with cons sizing and some saying size up, others down, I just never bit.

Picked up some 1010s last night on a whim and a discount code as my only other cups are ADIDAS ST003s and I never liked how they gripped, always felt slippery (like most adidas that aren't gum).
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How those 1010's fitting? They look comfortable but looks can be deceiving.

Not arrived yet (saturday), I'll check back in when they arrive. Only my second pair of # and the first didn't go over well (westgates).
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Berky on February 09, 2021, 09:32:15 AM
Fallen troopers last a while too!
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Post by: Mr. Stinky on February 09, 2021, 09:57:04 AM
Once Lakai starts dropping the Telford in more colorways, they will likely be receiving a good deal of my money.
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Post by: twic3 on February 09, 2021, 10:17:49 AM
Reebok club C and revenge have been my favorite cupsoles so far. The shape of the toe box, the feeling of the midsole absorbing the impact, the thicker sole gives you a better pop and flick. If the toe box was triple stitch to keep it from blowing out so fast it would be the perfect skate shoe.
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Post by: Spunkchild on February 09, 2021, 10:49:26 AM
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Adidas 3st.004. On my 3rd straight pair. TTS, decent width if needed but not tailored for wide feet I’d say
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I am really interested in hearing how NB# cups skate (aside from the 440 hi, which I know are great). The 1010's are my cup of tea style wise but I wonder how they feel...
the 1010's are incredible. Good board feel, the heel is kinda chunky but its not too thick, the only thing I'm not too in love with is how thin the tongue is, bu thats mostly just personal preference. Good shoe, thin enough to feel the hell out of the board but its been saving my roly poly ankles still.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: aLEXICONdEVIL on February 09, 2021, 11:25:09 AM
The vans Kyle Walker pro (the first one) is pretty good. The cupsole lasts forever. The upper material isn‘t very good, but if you use shoe goo the shoe will last you for a very Long time. It‘s a very good shoe for wide feet.

agree
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Mesteezo on February 09, 2021, 11:42:19 AM
Does the tysshawn not have the heel drop like the busenitz?

Not sure what you mean by heel drop, but the Tyshawns have an even thicker/raised heel than the Busenitz. I still wouldn't compare the 2 shoes at all they're super different despite both being cupsoles. Busenitz are hard and firm, Tyshawns are soft and flexible.
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Post by: yourbreakfsat on February 09, 2021, 12:04:05 PM
Once Lakai starts dropping the Telford in more colorways, they will likely be receiving a good deal of my money.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: SlapTM on February 09, 2021, 12:53:41 PM
I would say if you get a chance, try the Emerica G6 sole. The G6 Reynolds is the greatest skate shoe I've ever had. Super comfy, well built. Unfortunately, they discontinued it when the boss left, and the only G6 cupsole on the market right now is the spanky g6, which isn't as padded as I like up top. Even more so than the padding though, I would destroy a shoelace pretty much every session. Those metal eyelets and my flick were not a good pairing.

Emerica keeps telling me they've got more G6 cups on the way, but they've been telling me that story for like the last year. I'm starting to feel misled. For real though, the G6 sole is the cupsole to get. I just keep waiting for that new stuff to come out.
We have that Spanky Wino G6 slip-on cup with the G6 pour-in dropping in April and then the pour-in G6 colorway of the Gamma dropping in October.

For other Emerica cupsoles, we have the Gamma, Romero Laced, Romero Americana, Figgy Dose, and Alcove CC.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Eric Dolphy on February 09, 2021, 07:42:24 PM
I only skate cupsoles that are on the thin side, and I've skated and would highly recommend a lot of the other shoes already recommended in this thread. My top picks are Vans Crockett Highs (lows are great too but I prefer mid or high tops), Cons Fastbreaks, and Emerica Spanky G6s. All three of these are very supportive shoes and still have a decent amount of boardfeel. I also had a pair of the OG Adidas Sambas that skated great and lasted surprisingly long.

For what it's worth, I copped my homie a pair of DC Legacy Silms for this birthday back in like March or April. He was stoked on them and still somehow skating them now, even though there's holes in the soles. I think he just now found some replacement DCs for like $40 online. They're super easy to find for cheap online.
I'm 37yo and I can't recommended this shoe enough. Think I'm skating my 9th or 10th pair atm.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fulfillthedream on February 09, 2021, 07:51:26 PM
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I only skate cupsoles that are on the thin side, and I've skated and would highly recommend a lot of the other shoes already recommended in this thread. My top picks are Vans Crockett Highs (lows are great too but I prefer mid or high tops), Cons Fastbreaks, and Emerica Spanky G6s. All three of these are very supportive shoes and still have a decent amount of boardfeel. I also had a pair of the OG Adidas Sambas that skated great and lasted surprisingly long.

For what it's worth, I copped my homie a pair of DC Legacy Silms for this birthday back in like March or April. He was stoked on them and still somehow skating them now, even though there's holes in the soles. I think he just now found some replacement DCs for like $40 online. They're super easy to find for cheap online.
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I'm 37yo and I can't recommended this shoe enough. Think I'm skating my 9th or 10th pair atm.

the dope thing too is there widely available. DC cupsoles are something ive been strict on the last 2-3 years starting with the Tiago's the 2-14 Lynx Remakes, Matt Millers, The Kalis Wolf and the last years been 5-6 pairs of the Kalis S and two pairs of the Lynx Zero (good thicker shoe too but i prefer the Kalis S over the Lynx Zero)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: kimura on February 09, 2021, 08:42:15 PM
Ordered some Tyshawns today. Looking forward to giving these a go.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Fooj on February 09, 2021, 08:46:33 PM
Im on my 9th pair of Busenitz, I love the flick and comfort.  Trying Tyshawns out next tho
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 11, 2021, 05:05:12 PM
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Converse Fastbreak Mids are also pretty good, I noticed nobody mentioned them yet.
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I've always wanted to check these out but have never seen them local to try on and with cons sizing and some saying size up, others down, I just never bit.

Picked up some 1010s last night on a whim and a discount code as my only other cups are ADIDAS ST003s and I never liked how they gripped, always felt slippery (like most adidas that aren't gum).
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How those 1010's fitting? They look comfortable but looks can be deceiving.
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Not arrived yet (saturday), I'll check back in when they arrive. Only my second pair of # and the first didn't go over well (westgates).

Arrived early. Toebox is nice and wide square like the westgates (at the tip), tho the right pinches at the toe crease area (review I watched mentioned this) so they need some break in time before I skate them; I'll wear them around the house.

Moderate arch, I can feel it but it's not bothersome.

Feel long . With thick socks I get a thumbwidth (horizontal) of room while standing (Vans/DC/Nike give me about 1/2" which I prefer). If I were to go with a 9.5 it would be too tight (which I tried with the Westgates, sent them back for a 10). Too much heel slip when walking around, so back they go.


Edit: Weartested is the only place I've seen say they run a half size big, so I'm going to give the 9.5s a shot.



Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: topfrog10 on February 11, 2021, 08:03:29 PM
can anyone vouch for the NB 440Hi? Specifically on if they have that ankle cushioning that the 440 low has
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Urtripping on February 12, 2021, 06:01:02 AM
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Converse Fastbreak Mids are also pretty good, I noticed nobody mentioned them yet.
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I've always wanted to check these out but have never seen them local to try on and with cons sizing and some saying size up, others down, I just never bit.

Picked up some 1010s last night on a whim and a discount code as my only other cups are ADIDAS ST003s and I never liked how they gripped, always felt slippery (like most adidas that aren't gum).
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How those 1010's fitting? They look comfortable but looks can be deceiving.
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Not arrived yet (saturday), I'll check back in when they arrive. Only my second pair of # and the first didn't go over well (westgates).
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Arrived early. Toebox is nice and wide square like the westgates (at the tip), tho the right pinches at the tow crease area (review I watched mentioned this) so they need some break in time before I skate them; I'll wear them around the house.

Moderate arch, I can feel it but it's not bothersome.

Feel long . With thick socks I get a thumbwidth (horizontal) of room while standing (Vans/DC/Nike give me about 1/2" which I prefer). If I were to go with a 9.5 it would be too tight (which I tried with the Westgates, sent them back for a 10). Too much heel slip when walking around, so back they go.


Edit: Weartested is the only place I've seen say they run a half size big, so I'm going to give the 9.5s a shot.

Word, I usually fit 9's perfectly but will consider goin with an 8.5, I am not sleeping on the wheat suede/black sole
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: lemonchicken91 on February 12, 2021, 07:01:10 AM
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Does the tysshawn not have the heel drop like the busenitz?
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Not sure what you mean by heel drop, but the Tyshawns have an even thicker/raised heel than the Busenitz. I still wouldn't compare the 2 shoes at all they're super different despite both being cupsoles. Busenitz are hard and firm, Tyshawns are soft and flexible.

That thick heal and lower toe area on the Busenits makes them unskateable for me :(
Love the look but they are relegated to chillers 
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 12, 2021, 09:07:29 AM
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Converse Fastbreak Mids are also pretty good, I noticed nobody mentioned them yet.
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I've always wanted to check these out but have never seen them local to try on and with cons sizing and some saying size up, others down, I just never bit.

Picked up some 1010s last night on a whim and a discount code as my only other cups are ADIDAS ST003s and I never liked how they gripped, always felt slippery (like most adidas that aren't gum).
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How those 1010's fitting? They look comfortable but looks can be deceiving.
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Not arrived yet (saturday), I'll check back in when they arrive. Only my second pair of # and the first didn't go over well (westgates).
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Arrived early. Toebox is nice and wide square like the westgates (at the tip), tho the right pinches at the tow crease area (review I watched mentioned this) so they need some break in time before I skate them; I'll wear them around the house.

Moderate arch, I can feel it but it's not bothersome.

Feel long . With thick socks I get a thumbwidth (horizontal) of room while standing (Vans/DC/Nike give me about 1/2" which I prefer). If I were to go with a 9.5 it would be too tight (which I tried with the Westgates, sent them back for a 10). Too much heel slip when walking around, so back they go.


Edit: Weartested is the only place I've seen say they run a half size big, so I'm going to give the 9.5s a shot.
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Word, I usually fit 9's perfectly but will consider goin with an 8.5, I am not sleeping on the wheat suede/black sole

Returned the 10s (white) for the black (got them at Tactics at $79); don't care which one I'm skating. Black will feel less like Dad NB vibe, which the white 1010s give off.

Some reviews on the NB site also say they run large (some true to size tho).

Here's the area where it pinched for me straight out of the box (but right shoe only, pinky toe side); not my image:

(https://res.cloudinary.com/powerreviews/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto,h_768,w_auto/d_portal-no-product-image_ttlfpi.svg/prod/gynuv3xtdcs3h2vz19fk.jpg)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: In A Jar on February 12, 2021, 09:39:21 AM
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Does the tysshawn not have the heel drop like the busenitz?
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Not sure what you mean by heel drop, but the Tyshawns have an even thicker/raised heel than the Busenitz. I still wouldn't compare the 2 shoes at all they're super different despite both being cupsoles. Busenitz are hard and firm, Tyshawns are soft and flexible.
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That thick heal and lower toe area on the Busenits makes them unskateable for me :(
Love the look but they are relegated to chillers

I also am terrified of shoes with thick heels.  I would love to hear some recommendations on cupsoles with thin heels, there are so few out there.  Seems like Sole Tech are really the only ones, but maybe there some I haven't seen?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Paperclip20 on February 12, 2021, 09:44:04 AM
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Does the tysshawn not have the heel drop like the busenitz?
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Not sure what you mean by heel drop, but the Tyshawns have an even thicker/raised heel than the Busenitz. I still wouldn't compare the 2 shoes at all they're super different despite both being cupsoles. Busenitz are hard and firm, Tyshawns are soft and flexible.
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That thick heal and lower toe area on the Busenits makes them unskateable for me :(
Love the look but they are relegated to chillers
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I also am terrified of shoes with thick heels.  I would love to hear some recommendations on cupsoles with thin heels, there are so few out there.  Seems like Sole Tech are really the only ones, but maybe there some I haven't seen?

I wouldn't say either of them have thin heels but both the Crocket HI and the Converse fastbreak avoid having that super raised heel issue. I'm a fan of both of them
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Peepeeboy69 on February 12, 2021, 09:50:07 AM
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Does the tysshawn not have the heel drop like the busenitz?
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Not sure what you mean by heel drop, but the Tyshawns have an even thicker/raised heel than the Busenitz. I still wouldn't compare the 2 shoes at all they're super different despite both being cupsoles. Busenitz are hard and firm, Tyshawns are soft and flexible.

Busenitz hurt my feet with heel drop, but Tyshawns feel fine to me tho
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Crap on February 12, 2021, 11:49:52 AM
Everyone's experience is different I guess, but I didn't find the Tyshawns to have much (if any) heel drop at all. For those who aren't familiar, 'heel drop' just means the heel of the shoe is higher than the toe. Like this:
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1850/3621/files/saucony_heel2toe.jpg?v=1494917382)

Busenitz has probably the most noticeable heel drop of any skate shoe I've put on. I've never skated a pair, but I've tried them on and found them way too thin in the forefoot. Made me feel like I'm way too much on my tippy toes to be comfortable. The sole on Tyshawns is noticeably stiffer/harder in the forefoot than the Busenitz sole. If there is any drop from heel to toe, it is pretty minimal. I believe the Tyshawn has a bit of midsole cushioning and the Busenitz doesn't, but neither one has very much cushioning under your feet. Aside from both being cupsoles and made by the same brand, I do not find these shoes to be very similar.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: juniormint on February 12, 2021, 12:26:37 PM
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Adidas 3st.004. On my 3rd straight pair. TTS, decent width if needed but not tailored for wide feet I’d say
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Always liked the looks of those crazy tech adidas cups, even the 3st.003. There's an all black pair on Nordstrom rack that are nice and affordable, it's tempting...

I am really interested in hearing how NB# cups skate (aside from the 440 hi, which I know are great). The 1010's are my cup of tea style wise but I wonder how they feel... I also like the look of the 913. Are they still making that shoe?

After skating mainly 440s and 288s for the last couple years, and then trying the 1010s,  I have to say the difference is night and day for me.

1010s make the 440s feel very thin under foot, and are a much more athletic feeling shoe, they kind of made me wanna run and jump, and skate for that matter. I was kind of blown away at how much more support they had, slightly less board feel yes, but not detrimentally so. The heel is a bit chunk though, kind of messed my flick up a bit.  On a pair of 440hi now and although secure, I  am pretty disappointed with the sole in retrospect.

Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Urtripping on February 12, 2021, 02:19:32 PM
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Converse Fastbreak Mids are also pretty good, I noticed nobody mentioned them yet.
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I've always wanted to check these out but have never seen them local to try on and with cons sizing and some saying size up, others down, I just never bit.

Picked up some 1010s last night on a whim and a discount code as my only other cups are ADIDAS ST003s and I never liked how they gripped, always felt slippery (like most adidas that aren't gum).
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How those 1010's fitting? They look comfortable but looks can be deceiving.
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Not arrived yet (saturday), I'll check back in when they arrive. Only my second pair of # and the first didn't go over well (westgates).
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Arrived early. Toebox is nice and wide square like the westgates (at the tip), tho the right pinches at the tow crease area (review I watched mentioned this) so they need some break in time before I skate them; I'll wear them around the house.

Moderate arch, I can feel it but it's not bothersome.

Feel long . With thick socks I get a thumbwidth (horizontal) of room while standing (Vans/DC/Nike give me about 1/2" which I prefer). If I were to go with a 9.5 it would be too tight (which I tried with the Westgates, sent them back for a 10). Too much heel slip when walking around, so back they go.


Edit: Weartested is the only place I've seen say they run a half size big, so I'm going to give the 9.5s a shot.
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Word, I usually fit 9's perfectly but will consider goin with an 8.5, I am not sleeping on the wheat suede/black sole
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Returned the 10s (white) for the black (got them at Tactics at $79); don't care which one I'm skating. Black will feel less like Dad NB vibe, which the white 1010s give off.

Some reviews on the NB site also say they run large (some true to size tho).

Here's the area where it pinched for me straight out of the box (but shoe only, pinky toe side); not my image:

(https://res.cloudinary.com/powerreviews/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto,h_768,w_auto/d_portal-no-product-image_ttlfpi.svg/prod/gynuv3xtdcs3h2vz19fk.jpg)

Thank you sir! Maybe that toe pinch/crease effect is a bigger problem with the colorways with leather uppers (black and white og colorways that came out). I have my heart set on the suede pair after reading they feel like athletic shoes and have some more support than 440s...
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on February 12, 2021, 03:15:20 PM
I have some 1010s (Black and White leather colorway) in an 11 (I'm an 11 in most shoes) and they feel small/tight in the toe box. Should have went with an 11.5. Not sure if suede would have been roomier/a more correct fit but I don't think so.
I personally think NB# cupsoles run 0.5 size small: 440, 1010, 868, 533, 288, etc. I know others have different experiences, though.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 16, 2021, 03:04:55 PM
I have some 1010s (Black and White leather colorway) in an 11 (I'm an 11 in most shoes) and they feel small/tight in the toe box. Should have went with an 11.5. Not sure if suede would have been roomier/a more correct fit but I don't think so.
I personally think NB# cupsoles run 0.5 size small: 440, 1010, 868, 533, 288, etc. I know others have different experiences, though.

I wear a US10M in Nike and DC, perfect fit (and some vans: Rowans)

The #NB1010 (white leather upper) in a 10 was way to big on me, while only a half size too big, it felt like a full size up too big, lots of toe room and major heel slippage.

The 9.5 #1010 arrived today (black leather upper) and zero heel slippage much better fit, to me they feel like a snug 10, like a Nike. Going to break them in before skating however.

I've only read TTS or a half size too big - now you're saying that they are a half size too small - I don't know if people know what size they are lol - must be a lot of uncomfortable people out there (not saying your wrong tho, but it's 100% contradictory to my first hand experience).

As a size 10, wearing a size 9.5, they are surely not a halfsize too small, normal thumbwidth of room (while standing) and with normal 'standing/active' feet swelling which everyone advises to try shoes on after you've been up and about for a while (like filling your tires for air only after you've driven for a while).

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tLDrCPaFjxuwrKcfiqoDMdv43qY7Hj0m8YldhfWrLqFSJszfspQhFZcck_6Um_FB6BTqmwbQa-t0cBfPZUFb9HXLzXQNV3TMwqludsbKZ-ltQD_ZUXDgYkFi_Vw9Awyt_N66ZsvVbzM=w2400)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: pointandclick on February 16, 2021, 03:24:01 PM
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I have some 1010s (Black and White leather colorway) in an 11 (I'm an 11 in most shoes) and they feel small/tight in the toe box. Should have went with an 11.5. Not sure if suede would have been roomier/a more correct fit but I don't think so.
I personally think NB# cupsoles run 0.5 size small: 440, 1010, 868, 533, 288, etc. I know others have different experiences, though.
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I wear a US10M in Nike and DC, perfect fit (and some vans: Rowans)

The #NB1010 (white leather upper) in a 10 was way to big on me, while only a half size too big, it felt like a full size up too big, lots of toe room and major heel slippage.

The 9.5 #1010 arrived today (black leather upper) and zero heel slippage much better fit, to me they feel like a snug 10, like a Nike. Going to break them in before skating however.

I've only read TTS or a half size too big - now you're saying that they are a half size too small - I don't know if people know what size they are lol - must be a lot of uncomfortable people out there (not saying your wrong tho, but it's 100% contradictory to my first hand experience).

As a size 10, wearing a size 9.5, they are surely not a halfsize too small, normal thumbwidth of room (while standing) and with normal 'standing/active' feet swelling which everyone advises to try shoes on after you've been up and about for a while (like filling your tires for air only after you've driven for a while).

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tLDrCPaFjxuwrKcfiqoDMdv43qY7Hj0m8YldhfWrLqFSJszfspQhFZcck_6Um_FB6BTqmwbQa-t0cBfPZUFb9HXLzXQNV3TMwqludsbKZ-ltQD_ZUXDgYkFi_Vw9Awyt_N66ZsvVbzM=w2400)
im a 7 in everything dc and adidas, normally the same with nb (306 and 440) most of the 7's in the 1010's are too big so i have to try to find a 6.5. shoe skates so well in the one 7 thats smallish
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 16, 2021, 06:03:59 PM
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I have some 1010s (Black and White leather colorway) in an 11 (I'm an 11 in most shoes) and they feel small/tight in the toe box. Should have went with an 11.5. Not sure if suede would have been roomier/a more correct fit but I don't think so.
I personally think NB# cupsoles run 0.5 size small: 440, 1010, 868, 533, 288, etc. I know others have different experiences, though.
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I wear a US10M in Nike and DC, perfect fit (and some vans: Rowans)

The #NB1010 (white leather upper) in a 10 was way to big on me, while only a half size too big, it felt like a full size up too big, lots of toe room and major heel slippage.

The 9.5 #1010 arrived today (black leather upper) and zero heel slippage much better fit, to me they feel like a snug 10, like a Nike. Going to break them in before skating however.

I've only read TTS or a half size too big - now you're saying that they are a half size too small - I don't know if people know what size they are lol - must be a lot of uncomfortable people out there (not saying your wrong tho, but it's 100% contradictory to my first hand experience).

As a size 10, wearing a size 9.5, they are surely not a halfsize too small, normal thumbwidth of room (while standing) and with normal 'standing/active' feet swelling which everyone advises to try shoes on after you've been up and about for a while (like filling your tires for air only after you've driven for a while).

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tLDrCPaFjxuwrKcfiqoDMdv43qY7Hj0m8YldhfWrLqFSJszfspQhFZcck_6Um_FB6BTqmwbQa-t0cBfPZUFb9HXLzXQNV3TMwqludsbKZ-ltQD_ZUXDgYkFi_Vw9Awyt_N66ZsvVbzM=w2400)
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im a 7 in everything dc and adidas, normally the same with nb (306 and 440) most of the 7's in the 1010's are too big so i have to try to find a 6.5. shoe skates so well in the one 7 thats smallish

Could be small variances in the shoes themselves, hell my left foot is slightly larger than my right so they say you fit to your larger foot, but I try and find a middle ground, as sizing to my left foot makes the right swim.

I'm wearing them around the house and they are breaking in fast! I can feel the heel but it's more gradual than say, a busenitz high-heel lift.

Pretty stoked to be in a leather cup, I always wore Jordans/Nike/Adidas high tops the growing up so they've got a good nostalgia feel going on...if only they were mids!
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Diocletian on February 16, 2021, 06:29:02 PM
Xen's arm stylin on you 8)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Lloyd Braun on February 16, 2021, 06:39:40 PM
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Converse Fastbreak Mids are also pretty good, I noticed nobody mentioned them yet.
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I've always wanted to check these out but have never seen them local to try on and with cons sizing and some saying size up, others down, I just never bit.

Picked up some 1010s last night on a whim and a discount code as my only other cups are ADIDAS ST003s and I never liked how they gripped, always felt slippery (like most adidas that aren't gum).
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How those 1010's fitting? They look comfortable but looks can be deceiving.
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Not arrived yet (saturday), I'll check back in when they arrive. Only my second pair of # and the first didn't go over well (westgates).
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Arrived early. Toebox is nice and wide square like the westgates (at the tip), tho the right pinches at the tow crease area (review I watched mentioned this) so they need some break in time before I skate them; I'll wear them around the house.

Moderate arch, I can feel it but it's not bothersome.

Feel long . With thick socks I get a thumbwidth (horizontal) of room while standing (Vans/DC/Nike give me about 1/2" which I prefer). If I were to go with a 9.5 it would be too tight (which I tried with the Westgates, sent them back for a 10). Too much heel slip when walking around, so back they go.


Edit: Weartested is the only place I've seen say they run a half size big, so I'm going to give the 9.5s a shot.
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Word, I usually fit 9's perfectly but will consider goin with an 8.5, I am not sleeping on the wheat suede/black sole
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Returned the 10s (white) for the black (got them at Tactics at $79); don't care which one I'm skating. Black will feel less like Dad NB vibe, which the white 1010s give off.

Some reviews on the NB site also say they run large (some true to size tho).

Here's the area where it pinched for me straight out of the box (but shoe only, pinky toe side); not my image:

(https://res.cloudinary.com/powerreviews/image/upload/f_auto,q_auto,h_768,w_auto/d_portal-no-product-image_ttlfpi.svg/prod/gynuv3xtdcs3h2vz19fk.jpg)
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Thank you sir! Maybe that toe pinch/crease effect is a bigger problem with the colorways with leather uppers (black and white og colorways that came out). I have my heart set on the suede pair after reading they feel like athletic shoes and have some more support than 440s...

I have a pair of the all black (suede) which I’m currently skating, and the first white colorway. I don’t notice the pinch thing described in the suede but do a bit in the white/leather ones. Not terrible but I have noticed it. I 100% recommend the shoe, I also have the Knox 440s and the 1010’s are much more supportive, feel sturdier throughout but still have great board feel. Heels locked in real good. The sole is my favorite part, grips perfect. I’d like to get the wheat/black but I have my whole back stock of 868s to go through. It’s going to be a minute before I need shoes (didn’t need the tiagos but was curious)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on February 17, 2021, 01:07:18 AM
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I have some 1010s (Black and White leather colorway) in an 11 (I'm an 11 in most shoes) and they feel small/tight in the toe box. Should have went with an 11.5. Not sure if suede would have been roomier/a more correct fit but I don't think so.
I personally think NB# cupsoles run 0.5 size small: 440, 1010, 868, 533, 288, etc. I know others have different experiences, though.
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I wear a US10M in Nike and DC, perfect fit (and some vans: Rowans)

The #NB1010 (white leather upper) in a 10 was way to big on me, while only a half size too big, it felt like a full size up too big, lots of toe room and major heel slippage.

The 9.5 #1010 arrived today (black leather upper) and zero heel slippage much better fit, to me they feel like a snug 10, like a Nike. Going to break them in before skating however.

I've only read TTS or a half size too big - now you're saying that they are a half size too small - I don't know if people know what size they are lol - must be a lot of uncomfortable people out there (not saying your wrong tho, but it's 100% contradictory to my first hand experience).

As a size 10, wearing a size 9.5, they are surely not a halfsize too small, normal thumbwidth of room (while standing) and with normal 'standing/active' feet swelling which everyone advises to try shoes on after you've been up and about for a while (like filling your tires for air only after you've driven for a while).

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tLDrCPaFjxuwrKcfiqoDMdv43qY7Hj0m8YldhfWrLqFSJszfspQhFZcck_6Um_FB6BTqmwbQa-t0cBfPZUFb9HXLzXQNV3TMwqludsbKZ-ltQD_ZUXDgYkFi_Vw9Awyt_N66ZsvVbzM=w2400)
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im a 7 in everything dc and adidas, normally the same with nb (306 and 440) most of the 7's in the 1010's are too big so i have to try to find a 6.5. shoe skates so well in the one 7 thats smallish
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Could be small variances in the shoes themselves, hell my left foot is slightly larger than my right so they say you fit to your larger foot, but I try and find a middle ground, as sizing to my left foot makes the right swim.

I'm wearing them around the house and they are breaking in fast! I can feel the heel but it's more gradual than say, a busenitz high-heel lift.

Pretty stoked to be in a leather cup, I always wore Jordans/Nike/Adidas high tops the growing up so they've got a good nostalgia feel going on...if only they were mids!

I saw that everyone was saying TTS or half big (half big surprised me since NB# was almost always 0.5 size small since the black box days and I have tried a handful of NB shoes on over time on to confirm this) so I thought I'd add my experience to see if I was alone. It might be the leather that's making it so tight. I'm sure I'll be fine in my 11, but I like shoes to be comfortable, so I may try 11.5 if I get a chance to rule out which is better for ME.

Everyone's feet are shaped slightly different so they may not have the same fit in some areas as I do. I recognize that.
 I'm a US 11 for sure. Van's, Nike, Lakai, Etnies vulcs, Most eS, and most Adidas fit me TTS comfortably in 11.
For further reference, I'm a 10.5 in NB 212/213 and an 11.5 in 440, 553V2 (12 in 533V1), 868, 255, and 288. Maybe I'm closer to an 11.5 in NB shoes' fit? I've measured my feet sometime ago and they were around 11 from what I recall but I also have a bunion (hereditary) on my right foot so i look for slightly spacious toe boxes/flexible toe boxes. I digress. I like the Tiagos though! I feel that they will skate great though!

Also, @pointandclick  the Point Skate Shop (Sale Gear thread) has size 6 and 7 NB 1010 for $40 right now. Not sure if they've sold out yet, but it's something! :D
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: pointandclick on February 17, 2021, 08:51:35 AM
Also, @pointandclick  the Point Skate Shop (Sale Gear thread) has size 6 and 7 NB 1010 for $40 right now. Not sure if they've sold out yet, but it's something! :D
thanks for the mention, i peeped and i think the 6 is gone. 7 is just too tough to figure out with that shoe. im gonna wait for 6.5.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ok boomer on February 17, 2021, 08:59:53 AM
I'm pondering trying the new Nyjahs whenever I need some new shoes. I'm cupsole only and I do like the style, even if I don't really like the guy
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 17, 2021, 03:03:51 PM
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I have some 1010s (Black and White leather colorway) in an 11 (I'm an 11 in most shoes) and they feel small/tight in the toe box. Should have went with an 11.5. Not sure if suede would have been roomier/a more correct fit but I don't think so.
I personally think NB# cupsoles run 0.5 size small: 440, 1010, 868, 533, 288, etc. I know others have different experiences, though.
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I wear a US10M in Nike and DC, perfect fit (and some vans: Rowans)

The #NB1010 (white leather upper) in a 10 was way to big on me, while only a half size too big, it felt like a full size up too big, lots of toe room and major heel slippage.

The 9.5 #1010 arrived today (black leather upper) and zero heel slippage much better fit, to me they feel like a snug 10, like a Nike. Going to break them in before skating however.

I've only read TTS or a half size too big - now you're saying that they are a half size too small - I don't know if people know what size they are lol - must be a lot of uncomfortable people out there (not saying your wrong tho, but it's 100% contradictory to my first hand experience).

As a size 10, wearing a size 9.5, they are surely not a halfsize too small, normal thumbwidth of room (while standing) and with normal 'standing/active' feet swelling which everyone advises to try shoes on after you've been up and about for a while (like filling your tires for air only after you've driven for a while).

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/tLDrCPaFjxuwrKcfiqoDMdv43qY7Hj0m8YldhfWrLqFSJszfspQhFZcck_6Um_FB6BTqmwbQa-t0cBfPZUFb9HXLzXQNV3TMwqludsbKZ-ltQD_ZUXDgYkFi_Vw9Awyt_N66ZsvVbzM=w2400)
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im a 7 in everything dc and adidas, normally the same with nb (306 and 440) most of the 7's in the 1010's are too big so i have to try to find a 6.5. shoe skates so well in the one 7 thats smallish
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Could be small variances in the shoes themselves, hell my left foot is slightly larger than my right so they say you fit to your larger foot, but I try and find a middle ground, as sizing to my left foot makes the right swim.

I'm wearing them around the house and they are breaking in fast! I can feel the heel but it's more gradual than say, a busenitz high-heel lift.

Pretty stoked to be in a leather cup, I always wore Jordans/Nike/Adidas high tops the growing up so they've got a good nostalgia feel going on...if only they were mids!
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I saw that everyone was saying TTS or half big (half big surprised me since NB# was almost always 0.5 size small since the black box days and I have tried a handful of NB shoes on over time on to confirm this) so I thought I'd add my experience to see if I was alone. It might be the leather that's making it so tight. I'm sure I'll be fine in my 11, but I like shoes to be comfortable, so I may try 11.5 if I get a chance to rule out which is better for ME.

Everyone's feet are shaped slightly different so they may not have the same fit in some areas as I do. I recognize that.
 I'm a US 11 for sure. Van's, Nike, Lakai, Etnies vulcs, Most eS, and most Adidas fit me TTS comfortably in 11.
For further reference, I'm a 10.5 in NB 212/213 and an 11.5 in 440, 553V2 (12 in 533V1), 868, 255, and 288. Maybe I'm closer to an 11.5 in NB shoes' fit? I've measured my feet sometime ago and they were around 11 from what I recall but I also have a bunion (hereditary) on my right foot so i look for slightly spacious toe boxes/flexible toe boxes. I digress. I like the Tiagos though! I feel that they will skate great though!

Also, @pointandclick  the Point Skate Shop (Sale Gear thread) has size 6 and 7 NB 1010 for $40 right now. Not sure if they've sold out yet, but it's something! :D

I chalk it up it to variances in #s manufacturing...especially if someone is saying they had a 'small' seven vs a 'larger' one. The leather is tight, no doubt, especially on the sides; I also get that the toe area, especially where the big toe is can feel cramped making the shoe feel too small because there isn't any give yet across the 'cap' (also, people, cut your fuckign toenails ;).

Wore them inside all day, after taking them off for bed my arches had a little ache to them (I usually wear slip-on pros with pop cush indoors so no arch at all). Putting them on first thing out of bed (I'm trying to maximize break in before skating), I could really feel the 'pinch' on the toe crease at the pinky area and totally chalk that up to the leather, which I have found takes a bit longer to break in than suede.

I need wide toeboxs as well but not wide where most people think a shoe is wide (like how people say the Walker 1.0 is a wide shoe when it really is only wide in the mid-foot area; but it might be wide for people with narrow ass feat).  I've got a thin heel and arch area then it barney rubbles real fast.

They feel and look great (especially looking down on them) and have always been a fan of the pointed, yet square NB toe, like the dress shoes from the early 2000s ;)

Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fuhkin_powahfood_kid on February 17, 2021, 04:44:02 PM
Still haven't skated them yet, but I've been wearing the Knox 440hi for 2 days straight, in and out of the house. I'm coming back from a gnarly ankle sprain that left me imobilized for a few weeks and am dealing with swollen toes from an epsom soak that was too hot and scalded my piggies. First pair of cupsoles I've ever worn for chilling and first pair of skate shoes I've worn for chilling in a few years because I've got fucked up feet. So my input so far is that they're comfortable and wide enough out the box (if it matters, I generally need a wider shoe even without swollen feet). While they're fairly stiff, I feel like the offer support around the instep and ankle structure. they don't have the padding that a non-skate new balance is gonna offer, but they're still comfortable enough to walk around in. look forward to skating in them
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Urtripping on February 17, 2021, 06:18:13 PM
Still haven't skated them yet, but I've been wearing the Knox 440hi for 2 days straight, in and out of the house. I'm coming back from a gnarly ankle sprain that left me imobilized for a few weeks and am dealing with swollen toes from an epsom soak that was too hot and scalded my piggies. First pair of cupsoles I've ever worn for chilling and first pair of skate shoes I've worn for chilling in a few years because I've got fucked up feet. So my input so far is that they're comfortable and wide enough out the box (if it matters, I generally need a wider shoe even without swollen feet). While they're fairly stiff, I feel like the offer support around the instep and ankle structure. they don't have the padding that a non-skate new balance is gonna offer, but they're still comfortable enough to walk around in. look forward to skating in them

The stiffness took some getting used to for me when I first skated them, but by the end of the session I was pretty sold on the shoe... Support had me feeling real confident. I needed a better insole than the one provided, but I know everyone has their needs/preferences when it comes to that.

Unrelated to performance, but the all black with orange/red touches looks fantastic.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fuhkin_powahfood_kid on February 17, 2021, 07:09:44 PM
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Still haven't skated them yet, but I've been wearing the Knox 440hi for 2 days straight, in and out of the house. I'm coming back from a gnarly ankle sprain that left me imobilized for a few weeks and am dealing with swollen toes from an epsom soak that was too hot and scalded my piggies. First pair of cupsoles I've ever worn for chilling and first pair of skate shoes I've worn for chilling in a few years because I've got fucked up feet. So my input so far is that they're comfortable and wide enough out the box (if it matters, I generally need a wider shoe even without swollen feet). While they're fairly stiff, I feel like the offer support around the instep and ankle structure. they don't have the padding that a non-skate new balance is gonna offer, but they're still comfortable enough to walk around in. look forward to skating in them
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The stiffness took some getting used to for me when I first skated them, but by the end of the session I was pretty sold on the shoe... Support had me feeling real confident. I needed a better insole than the one provided, but I know everyone has their needs/preferences when it comes to that.

Unrelated to performance, but the all black with orange/red touches looks fantastic.

ya, for real. other than some OG accels and ipaths back when, my first cups were a pair of accel slims a few months ago that are a bit tight in the toe box and feel thin soled when doing anything other than skating- walking, pressing gas pedal of car, etc. I can't chuck them though because they're in good shape and I spent money on them... these 440s feel far, far more comfortable and like I said, I look forward to skating them.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 20, 2021, 11:59:09 AM
First session in the 1010s after wearing all day inside since I got them (3-4 days?).

The irritating pinch on the pinky side vanished as soon as I started pushing around, 9.5s (I'm a 10) were the way to go, no cramped toes.

The left upper around the ankle would dig into the area just below the ankle at times, but the collar is still pretty stiff; that area also got shredded on the first heelflip...now I know where to crazy glue.

I'm digging them; going to snag some suede next. I have to lace them all the way, stopping at the yellow eyelet feels way to loose.

Probably the best thing about these are the little heel pads that brace/hold your achilles and your heel (FantomFit maybe?), the blue pads in the heel/collar area here:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FLPoUOGUPOmu5ChnzBbGnQhGLjP4VBxUSDHmHYvMOXX6HEi_12d53wnTWH-jtwETg3YjN-fWuRkMJy3nCYuRUc72jt0gyW-m4BwyCKlajGk8zYbfSrgrylrXW2FJfe8hcH8YLeryfbQ=w2400)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ok boomer on February 20, 2021, 05:27:22 PM
Sounds like a good fit for the heels
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FUBAR on February 20, 2021, 05:38:21 PM
First session in the 1010s after wearing all day inside since I got them (3-4 days?).

The irritating pinch on the pinky side vanished as soon as I started pushing around, 9.5s (I'm a 10) were the way to go, no cramped toes.

The left upper around the ankle would dig into the area just below the ankle at times, but the collar is still pretty stiff; that area also got shredded on the first heelflip...now I know where to crazy glue.

I'm digging them; going to snag some suede next. I have to lace them all the way, stopping at the yellow eyelet feels way to loose.

Probably the best thing about these are the little heel pads that brace/hold your achilles and your heel (FantomFit maybe?), the blue pads in the heel/collar area here:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FLPoUOGUPOmu5ChnzBbGnQhGLjP4VBxUSDHmHYvMOXX6HEi_12d53wnTWH-jtwETg3YjN-fWuRkMJy3nCYuRUc72jt0gyW-m4BwyCKlajGk8zYbfSrgrylrXW2FJfe8hcH8YLeryfbQ=w2400)

Ugh that irritaing pinch on the pinky toe is the reason I cant skate in Vans. The pain gets so bad it sucks to just walk in them, let alone skate.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 20, 2021, 05:52:05 PM
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First session in the 1010s after wearing all day inside since I got them (3-4 days?).

The irritating pinch on the pinky side vanished as soon as I started pushing around, 9.5s (I'm a 10) were the way to go, no cramped toes.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FLPoUOGUPOmu5ChnzBbGnQhGLjP4VBxUSDHmHYvMOXX6HEi_12d53wnTWH-jtwETg3YjN-fWuRkMJy3nCYuRUc72jt0gyW-m4BwyCKlajGk8zYbfSrgrylrXW2FJfe8hcH8YLeryfbQ=w2400)
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Ugh that irritating pinch on the pinky toe is the reason I cant skate in Vans. The pain gets so bad it sucks to just walk in them, let alone skate.

It was worse walking in them to break them in than it was the first few hours of skating in them so either I got used to it or it's gone (have to see how it goes for tomorrow's session).
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: MusclesMarinara on February 20, 2021, 07:05:24 PM
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Still haven't skated them yet, but I've been wearing the Knox 440hi for 2 days straight, in and out of the house. I'm coming back from a gnarly ankle sprain that left me imobilized for a few weeks and am dealing with swollen toes from an epsom soak that was too hot and scalded my piggies. First pair of cupsoles I've ever worn for chilling and first pair of skate shoes I've worn for chilling in a few years because I've got fucked up feet. So my input so far is that they're comfortable and wide enough out the box (if it matters, I generally need a wider shoe even without swollen feet). While they're fairly stiff, I feel like the offer support around the instep and ankle structure. they don't have the padding that a non-skate new balance is gonna offer, but they're still comfortable enough to walk around in. look forward to skating in them
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The stiffness took some getting used to for me when I first skated them, but by the end of the session I was pretty sold on the shoe... Support had me feeling real confident. I needed a better insole than the one provided, but I know everyone has their needs/preferences when it comes to that.

Unrelated to performance, but the all black with orange/red touches looks fantastic.


I deleted my last post about the 440 hi, cause apparently my dumbass skipped these two posts before posting.

I have a pair arriving this Wednesday, since I can't try on in person. But I'm also nursing a sprained ankle currently and am searching for some stability and support while it heals. Sounds like the 440 hi is exactly what I need at the moment from your guys posts.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ballintoohard on February 20, 2021, 07:29:12 PM
Can anyone that has skated Jordan 1’s compare them to current skate cups in terms of board feel and shit?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Urtripping on February 20, 2021, 08:14:56 PM
Can anyone that has skated Jordan 1’s compare them to current skate cups in terms of board feel and shit?

I'd say they have very, very similar boardfeel to dunks... the sole is a little stiffer/harder than an SB dunk maybe, and the shape is a bit narrower. The dunk is the best comparison though, the shoes are similar in many ways.

They break in so well and feel really great after a week or two of skating. I liked skating the lows quite a bit, but mids and highs are my thing so I prefer those cuts. If you can get your hands on some highs, they're usually made from the highest quality materials. They're all great though, I think they feel like they were made for skating.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ballintoohard on February 20, 2021, 08:33:10 PM
Dope, I've never skated actual Dunks, but have a pair of Jordan 1's. I might toss in some of my Blazer insoles, but the Hefe Luxx ones I got feel pretty damn good. I don't like the insole of the Crockett Hi's for skating while the rest of the shoe feels good the board feel is a bit too mush.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: laramieskate55 on February 20, 2021, 09:30:22 PM
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Still haven't skated them yet, but I've been wearing the Knox 440hi for 2 days straight, in and out of the house. I'm coming back from a gnarly ankle sprain that left me imobilized for a few weeks and am dealing with swollen toes from an epsom soak that was too hot and scalded my piggies. First pair of cupsoles I've ever worn for chilling and first pair of skate shoes I've worn for chilling in a few years because I've got fucked up feet. So my input so far is that they're comfortable and wide enough out the box (if it matters, I generally need a wider shoe even without swollen feet). While they're fairly stiff, I feel like the offer support around the instep and ankle structure. they don't have the padding that a non-skate new balance is gonna offer, but they're still comfortable enough to walk around in. look forward to skating in them
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The stiffness took some getting used to for me when I first skated them, but by the end of the session I was pretty sold on the shoe... Support had me feeling real confident. I needed a better insole than the one provided, but I know everyone has their needs/preferences when it comes to that.

Unrelated to performance, but the all black with orange/red touches looks fantastic.
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I deleted my last post about the 440 hi, cause apparently my dumbass skipped these two posts before posting.

I have a pair arriving this Wednesday, since I can't try on in person. But I'm also nursing a sprained ankle currently and am searching for some stability and support while it heals. Sounds like the 440 hi is exactly what I need at the moment from your guys posts.

Did you get your regular size? Thinking about getting some...
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Mcidraque on February 20, 2021, 11:01:40 PM
haven't checked the whole thread but here's my two cent:

- reebooks: npcII or club C revenge

- nike: AF1 (if your having sore feet) and non sb dunks
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ok on February 21, 2021, 07:10:37 AM
haven't checked the whole thread but here's my two cent:

- reebooks: npcII or club C revenge

- nike: AF1 (if your having sore feet) and non sb dunks


Af1’s are hard to skate for me. I miss the flick on tricks, more often than I catch it. I need to get some premium ones, with the pebbled leather and such, the regular ones feel like plastic.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: j....soy..... on February 21, 2021, 07:17:26 AM
Yeah I've always thought af1's were out of control thick....that said tons of kids were skating Jordan 4-5's a few years back....
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: IpathCats on February 21, 2021, 07:27:48 AM
I got a pair of reebok bb4600 and loved them so much I ordered a pair of the bb4500. They don't look great, but I heard someone on here say once, the worse a shoe looks, they better it looks once skated in. And I agree. I like a medium-ish traditional cupsole. The type you can't really skate new because it HAS to get broken in. I was stoked on the telfords, but that xlk shit is kind of a joke. Feels like a vulc tbh. I was a little bummed when my pair showed up in the mail. I'll throw some footprints in there and skate them, but it Deff wasn't what I was looking for.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: MusclesMarinara on February 21, 2021, 08:32:42 AM
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Still haven't skated them yet, but I've been wearing the Knox 440hi for 2 days straight, in and out of the house. I'm coming back from a gnarly ankle sprain that left me imobilized for a few weeks and am dealing with swollen toes from an epsom soak that was too hot and scalded my piggies. First pair of cupsoles I've ever worn for chilling and first pair of skate shoes I've worn for chilling in a few years because I've got fucked up feet. So my input so far is that they're comfortable and wide enough out the box (if it matters, I generally need a wider shoe even without swollen feet). While they're fairly stiff, I feel like the offer support around the instep and ankle structure. they don't have the padding that a non-skate new balance is gonna offer, but they're still comfortable enough to walk around in. look forward to skating in them
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The stiffness took some getting used to for me when I first skated them, but by the end of the session I was pretty sold on the shoe... Support had me feeling real confident. I needed a better insole than the one provided, but I know everyone has their needs/preferences when it comes to that.

Unrelated to performance, but the all black with orange/red touches looks fantastic.
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I deleted my last post about the 440 hi, cause apparently my dumbass skipped these two posts before posting.

I have a pair arriving this Wednesday, since I can't try on in person. But I'm also nursing a sprained ankle currently and am searching for some stability and support while it heals. Sounds like the 440 hi is exactly what I need at the moment from your guys posts.
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Did you get your regular size? Thinking about getting some...

I did, after reading some other posts on a couple shoe threads in here I decided to go my normal size which is 10. I bought them off zumiez, sorry but they're way too good a deal not to buy them, so if they're not the right size atleast they're an easy return in store for my money back.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: rocklobster on February 21, 2021, 08:44:54 AM
First session in the 1010s after wearing all day inside since I got them (3-4 days?).

The irritating pinch on the pinky side vanished as soon as I started pushing around, 9.5s (I'm a 10) were the way to go, no cramped toes.

The left upper around the ankle would dig into the area just below the ankle at times, but the collar is still pretty stiff; that area also got shredded on the first heelflip...now I know where to crazy glue.

I'm digging them; going to snag some suede next. I have to lace them all the way, stopping at the yellow eyelet feels way to loose.

Probably the best thing about these are the little heel pads that brace/hold your achilles and your heel (FantomFit maybe?), the blue pads in the heel/collar area here:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/FLPoUOGUPOmu5ChnzBbGnQhGLjP4VBxUSDHmHYvMOXX6HEi_12d53wnTWH-jtwETg3YjN-fWuRkMJy3nCYuRUc72jt0gyW-m4BwyCKlajGk8zYbfSrgrylrXW2FJfe8hcH8YLeryfbQ=w2400)

Tried on a friend's pair in 9.5 and was amazed how slim they actually felt on the feet. They look really bulk and like a dad shoe, but they felt bulky and thin in the right areas. Didn't get a chance to skate them but I'm convinced a cupsole is my future.

Just got my first pair of NB 913, stiff for a start and a little narrow on the front, got the shoe stretchers in to soften them up.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ok on February 21, 2021, 09:08:02 AM
Yeah I've always thought af1's were out of control thick....that said tons of kids were skating Jordan 4-5's a few years back....

Cyrus has an amazing kickflip in a pair. Whenever I try it looks like I’m trying to do that Yoshi trick Gershon did for the A-team challenge, ollie version no flip.
Kids can skate anything those young bastards.
I should probably just skate og accels (they look wild), or be attempting to thrift old ipaths, aj1’s, etc.

Or just be boring and stick with Tyshawn's and ave’s
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 21, 2021, 03:23:44 PM
Today's session, the fit was a little pinchy at the start but soon went away (faster than yesterday); the 1010s just require a good amount of break in compared to a lot of other shoes it seems.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Urtripping on February 21, 2021, 04:25:23 PM
Today's session, the fit was a little pinchy at the start but soon went away (faster than yesterday); the 1010s just require a good amount of break in compared to a lot of other shoes it seems.

My suede pair is stuck in a regional distribution center with USPS but when they get here I'll see if the change in material affects the pinch problem at all (unless someone already has a pair and can weigh in)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Easy Slider on February 22, 2021, 02:19:54 AM
I have been skating the Puigs this weekend for the first time. Coming from worn in Vulcs I found the sole very sticky. I struggled with quickly adapting foot positions in a line but I assume this will get better once they‘re broken in. I also got a blister on my toe where the tongue touches it, because the tongue is very hard. Further I already broke the flick foot lace as I use the golden eyelet and have now ordered replacement shoelaces, hoping they will fit as I am going to need new ones every week... Finally my hip and legs hurt today more than usual but I blame that to the good weather which meant longer sessions.

So do I recommend them? Not sure yet...
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Sila on February 22, 2021, 02:23:22 AM
For those that were fans of the Reynolds G6 cup, what are you skating now? I know there's the Spanky but I like a bit more collar paddding.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 22, 2021, 07:19:33 AM
I have been skating the Puigs this weekend for the first time. Coming from worn in Vulcs I found the sole very sticky. I struggled with quickly adapting foot positions in a line but I assume this will get better once they‘re broken in. I also got a blister on my toe where the tongue touches it, because the tongue is very hard. Further I already broke the flick foot lace as I use the golden eyelet and have now ordered replacement shoelaces, hoping they will fit as I am going to need new ones every week... Finally my hip and legs hurt today more than usual but I blame that to the good weather which meant longer sessions.

So do I recommend them? Not sure yet...

How's the toe box on the new style? I was a fan of his is first shoe; still wear the crystal white/sunglow colorway as a chiller, lots of compliments.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: michael scarn on February 22, 2021, 08:44:15 AM
It's probably been said but the lakai xlk soles are actually so good. I'm on my third pair of the remastered Carroll shoe, and i have a 4th waiting.

To me it's the perfect amount of padding.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ballintoohard on February 22, 2021, 12:34:49 PM
Picked up some 440's yesterday and skated them today. Really stoked on them. Really good boardfeel, good support, good grip out of the box. Also skated my Jordan 1's, which were solid as well and that's all it took to convert me.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fs1/2cab on February 22, 2021, 01:25:52 PM
It's probably been said but the lakai xlk soles are actually so good. I'm on my third pair of the remastered Carroll shoe, and i have a 4th waiting.

To me it's the perfect amount of padding.

Did you went with your usual Lakai size in the Carroll's?
I wanna try them but I heard they run a bit smaller.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Easy Slider on February 22, 2021, 01:30:06 PM
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I have been skating the Puigs this weekend for the first time. Coming from worn in Vulcs I found the sole very sticky. I struggled with quickly adapting foot positions in a line but I assume this will get better once they‘re broken in. I also got a blister on my toe where the tongue touches it, because the tongue is very hard. Further I already broke the flick foot lace as I use the golden eyelet and have now ordered replacement shoelaces, hoping they will fit as I am going to need new ones every week... Finally my hip and legs hurt today more than usual but I blame that to the good weather which meant longer sessions.

So do I recommend them? Not sure yet...
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How's the toe box on the new style? I was a fan of his is first shoe; still wear the crystal white/sunglow colorway as a chiller, lots of compliments.

You mean except giving me blisters? Can‘t compare to the old version but I‘d say more or less similar to the Busenitz.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ballintoohard on February 22, 2021, 01:36:11 PM
When I tried on the Puig's they felt thinner than many vulcs and don't have much structure. Cupsole in name only.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: michael scarn on February 22, 2021, 03:26:57 PM
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It's probably been said but the lakai xlk soles are actually so good. I'm on my third pair of the remastered Carroll shoe, and i have a 4th waiting.

To me it's the perfect amount of padding.
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Did you went with your usual Lakai size in the Carroll's?
I wanna try them but I heard they run a bit smaller.

They feel true to size to me. They're tight for a couple days but loosen up pretty quick. My foot is more short and wide as opposed to long and thin though, if that makes a difference.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: smackenzie on February 22, 2021, 03:34:19 PM
I haven't seen it posted but I'd recommend VA's Atlantic shoe as well. Another XLK model, looks pretty similar to the Carroll reissue.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: michael scarn on February 22, 2021, 03:44:53 PM
I haven't seen it posted but I'd recommend VA's Atlantic shoe as well. Another XLK model, looks pretty similar to the Carroll reissue.

How's the width? Looks a bit more narrow than the Carrolls which is the most narrow I'll go.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 22, 2021, 04:34:47 PM
Session 3 and the 1010s are still breaking in..thing is, when skating, I don't notice, it's only before when warming up, or after and cooling down that I can feel it. In hindsight, I should have worn really thick socks when breaking them in around the house, might have helped.

I've also started keeping the front loose and the top two eyelights pretty tight around my ankle area...I'm starting to think it's a lost cause. Another issue I'm feeling is the toe cap area is very low (not a lot of vertical space) so that explain a lot of the tight feel.

Going to give them one more session then move on.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: smackenzie on February 22, 2021, 06:41:54 PM
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I haven't seen it posted but I'd recommend VA's Atlantic shoe as well. Another XLK model, looks pretty similar to the Carroll reissue.
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How's the width? Looks a bit more narrow than the Carrolls which is the most narrow I'll go.

I've only worn the Atlantic so I can't properly vouch for a comparison with the Carroll's, but I'll say the atlantic fit is comfortably snug and sporty-feeling. I don't really have a wide foot, though. If you prefer ample wiggle room the atlantic might not be for you.

My comparison to the Carroll's mainly came from the toebox. Similar stitching pattern/design and pointy. I think compared to the rest, Lakai has one of the least bulky cupsole lineups.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 23, 2021, 12:25:13 PM
I'm moving on from the 1010s as they're just not breaking in where I need them to (Pinky toe pinch), maybe they need more than 10 hours of walking around the house wear (basically used them as slippers) + 6 hours of skating, but by my standards, that should be enough for any discomfort to go away and I'm not willing to go the distance/endure the pinch when other shoes will break in faster.

Ordered a pair of the Marana/Joslin/Michelin - if anyone wants some semi-broken in 1010s in a 9.5 PM me and we'll work it out.

There are some Reebok heads in here - I just picked up some new xtrainers: 20% off for you, 20% off for me: https://refer.reebok.com/TIM06838397
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fs1/2cab on February 23, 2021, 12:36:09 PM
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It's probably been said but the lakai xlk soles are actually so good. I'm on my third pair of the remastered Carroll shoe, and i have a 4th waiting.

To me it's the perfect amount of padding.
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Did you went with your usual Lakai size in the Carroll's?
I wanna try them but I heard they run a bit smaller.
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They feel true to size to me. They're tight for a couple days but loosen up pretty quick. My foot is more short and wide as opposed to long and thin though, if that makes a difference.

I think my feet are the same and I like my shoes snug. Thanks for the response.

And whoever asked, I also was a bit sceptic about the Atlantic's but they aren't as narrow as they might look. If you like your shoes snug, they are great. Only Lakai shoe, that fit's a bit weird is the Flaco. The Flaco feels really wide in the toe area. At least in my opinion.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Urtripping on February 23, 2021, 03:12:05 PM
Session 3 and the 1010s are still breaking in..thing is, when skating, I don't notice, it's only before when warming up, or after and cooling down that I can feel it. In hindsight, I should have worn really thick socks when breaking them in around the house, might have helped.

I've also started keeping the front loose and the top two eyelights pretty tight around my ankle area...I'm starting to think it's a lost cause. Another issue I'm feeling is the toe cap area is very low (not a lot of vertical space) so that explain a lot of the tight feel.

Going to give them one more session then move on.

Deleted my last post about these because it was confusing, but I skated mine today and I think I like the snug fit in the toe. Strangely, the problem I'm having is heel slippage despite the fantomfit stuff. I had to tighten em down up top to feel more secure.

I think there are a lot of layers of material which could explain that toe pinch, thankfully I haven't felt it since my feet are super narrow.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: michael scarn on February 23, 2021, 03:36:45 PM
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It's probably been said but the lakai xlk soles are actually so good. I'm on my third pair of the remastered Carroll shoe, and i have a 4th waiting.

To me it's the perfect amount of padding.
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Did you went with your usual Lakai size in the Carroll's?
I wanna try them but I heard they run a bit smaller.
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They feel true to size to me. They're tight for a couple days but loosen up pretty quick. My foot is more short and wide as opposed to long and thin though, if that makes a difference.
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I think my feet are the same and I like my shoes snug. Thanks for the response.

And whoever asked, I also was a bit sceptic about the Atlantic's but they aren't as narrow as they might look. If you like your shoes snug, they are great. Only Lakai shoe, that fit's a bit weird is the Flaco. The Flaco feels really wide in the toe area. At least in my opinion.

If I could find a pair of the flaco 1s i would buy in bulk right now. That shoe fit me so well and skated perfectly.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on February 24, 2021, 07:18:26 AM
I hate to say it but these best I've come across is etnies michelin marans. They just don't make comfy shoes anymore.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: krookedjuice on February 24, 2021, 07:35:14 AM
I hate to say it but these best I've come across is etnies michelin marans. They just don't make comfy shoes anymore.

I won a pair of maranas from a random sweepstakes a while back and they were surprisingly one of my favorite shoes i've skated.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: MusclesMarinara on February 24, 2021, 01:34:19 PM
My NB# 1010 and 440Hi's came in today. 440 was a bust, way too narrow and flat. Wish the cushioning from the ankle was distributed more in the rest of the shoe. But think I'll be keeping the 1010s for skating and fucking around in. Very comfortable/supportive/and no pinching in the toe region as others had encountered wearing them.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Allen. on February 24, 2021, 02:07:07 PM
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It's probably been said but the lakai xlk soles are actually so good. I'm on my third pair of the remastered Carroll shoe, and i have a 4th waiting.

To me it's the perfect amount of padding.
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Did you went with your usual Lakai size in the Carroll's?
I wanna try them but I heard they run a bit smaller.
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They feel true to size to me. They're tight for a couple days but loosen up pretty quick. My foot is more short and wide as opposed to long and thin though, if that makes a difference.
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I think my feet are the same and I like my shoes snug. Thanks for the response.

And whoever asked, I also was a bit sceptic about the Atlantic's but they aren't as narrow as they might look. If you like your shoes snug, they are great. Only Lakai shoe, that fit's a bit weird is the Flaco. The Flaco feels really wide in the toe area. At least in my opinion.
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If I could find a pair of the flaco 1s i would buy in bulk right now. That shoe fit me so well and skated perfectly.
I have a few pairs of the Flaco High in 11 that I would absolutely LOVE to get rid of.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: thefriscokid on February 26, 2021, 05:14:06 PM
I really like my Tyshawns, they feel really supportive and doing tricks doesnt hurt my feet, even landing primo isnt a problem

Im currently trying out the Fastbreak pro, i like the soles alot and they mold to your feet with a thick insole, the suede ones I have arent very protective on the top, it feels like one thin layer and thats it. The nylon/canvas one might be different maybe more breathable


Im wondering if that new Forum Adidas shoe w the Heitor model is a cupsole? Looks like a good shoe if you can rock the strap
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on February 26, 2021, 06:20:15 PM
I really like my Tyshawns, they feel really supportive and doing tricks doesnt hurt my feet, even landing primo isnt a problem

Im currently trying out the Fastbreak pro, i like the soles alot and they mold to your feet with a thick insole, the suede ones I have arent very protective on the top, it feels like one thin layer and thats it. The nylon/canvas one might be different maybe more breathable


Im wondering if that new Forum Adidas shoe w the Heitor model is a cupsole? Looks like a good shoe if you can rock the strap
Yes they are.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Frank on February 26, 2021, 06:39:52 PM
Im wondering if that new Forum Adidas shoe w the Heitor model is a cupsole? Looks like a good shoe if you can rock the strap

it's pretty easy to distinguish. if the upper is put upon the sole representing a single unit,  and then welded and possibly knit to it, its a cup. the cup being the sole unit, as the upper sits within that cup.

vulcanized means the sole and the upper are connected via the foxing tape on the side. the sole isn't a single unit, and the upper rests just on top of the bottom part, then foxing is applied to form a unit.

they also look very different aesthetically. there are simple cupsoles outthere that kinda look like vulcs, but soles like that forum model are always cup. you can't make vulc foxing tape look like that.

typical vulcs are most classic vans models, typical cup would be the heitor, a dunk, es accel. vulcs are usually thinner and more flexible out of the box, cups have more stability and allow the manufacturer to put extra dampening in there.

EDIT: what mostly works when your in doubt about it is that if you see stitching on the sole, it's surely a cup, even if that stitching is only decorative. i don't think you can put stitches through vulc foxing/sidewalls.

on another note, the heitor doesn't come with a strap i think, unlike regular forum lows.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Lloyd Braun on February 26, 2021, 06:46:28 PM
My NB# 1010 and 440Hi's came in today. 440 was a bust, way too narrow and flat. Wish the cushioning from the ankle was distributed more in the rest of the shoe. But think I'll be keeping the 1010s for skating and fucking around in. Very comfortable/supportive/and no pinching in the toe region as others had encountered wearing them.

I have both the 440’s and the 1010’s. I also don’t get any of the pinching people expressed here. Maybe in my white ones the first day or two but they’re good now. The 440’s are super thin, too thin for me personally to skate which is fine as I bought them to have a some what nice shoe to wear out. I don’t agree with anyone’s comments about them being supportive for me theyre basically vulcs and I had to put a different insole in them. But again they’re fine for wearing out and about.

868s still can’t be beat IMO.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Frank on February 26, 2021, 06:50:25 PM
I have both the 440’s and the 1010’s. I also don’t get any of the pinching people expressed here. Maybe in my white ones the first day or two but they’re good now. The 440’s are super thin, too thin for me personally to skate which is fine as I bought them to have a some what nice shoe to wear out. I don’t agree with anyone’s comments about them being supportive for me theyre basically vulcs and I had to put a different insole in them. But again they’re fine for wearing out and about.

868s still can’t be beat IMO.
roth said the 868 might come back occasionally. at least they are not completely off the menu at nb#. i'm hoping i'll get a second chance with this shoe. bought a pair that was a tiny bit too small back when the sizing was still iffy.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: MusclesMarinara on February 26, 2021, 08:38:13 PM
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My NB# 1010 and 440Hi's came in today. 440 was a bust, way too narrow and flat. Wish the cushioning from the ankle was distributed more in the rest of the shoe. But think I'll be keeping the 1010s for skating and fucking around in. Very comfortable/supportive/and no pinching in the toe region as others had encountered wearing them.
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I have both the 440’s and the 1010’s. I also don’t get any of the pinching people expressed here. Maybe in my white ones the first day or two but they’re good now. The 440’s are super thin, too thin for me personally to skate which is fine as I bought them to have a some what nice shoe to wear out. I don’t agree with anyone’s comments about them being supportive for me theyre basically vulcs and I had to put a different insole in them. But again they’re fine for wearing out and about.

868s still can’t be beat IMO.

I had the same idea about keeping the 440's for nice attire as well, but just ended up returning both NBs.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 27, 2021, 12:01:19 PM
Etnies Michelin Maranas (Joslin colorway BLK/GUM) just arrived. Straight out of the box they are lightyears more comfortable for my feet than the 1010s; the Maranas feel more broken in new than the 1010s do after 6+hours skating and 10 ish hours of walking around, albeit at the cost of just feeling like a 'generic' skate shoe (not a dig, just an observation).
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 28, 2021, 11:35:23 AM
Etnies Michelin Maranas (Joslin colorway BLK/GUM) just arrived. Straight out of the box they are lightyears more comfortable for my feet than the 1010s; the Maranas feel more broken in new than the 1010s do after 6+hours skating and 10 ish hours of walking around, albeit at the cost of just feeling like a 'generic' skate shoe (not a dig, just an observation).

Just wrapped up a few hours in them on the board, feel great, already breaking in nicely. Again, PM for a good deal on those 1010s.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on February 28, 2021, 11:49:30 AM
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Etnies Michelin Maranas (Joslin colorway BLK/GUM) just arrived. Straight out of the box they are lightyears more comfortable for my feet than the 1010s; the Maranas feel more broken in new than the 1010s do after 6+hours skating and 10 ish hours of walking around, albeit at the cost of just feeling like a 'generic' skate shoe (not a dig, just an observation).
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Just wrapped up a few hours in them on the board, feel great, already breaking in nicely. Again, PM for a good deal on those 1010s.

I almost exclusively skate etnies Marana/Joslin, so I'm stoked someone else digs em!  I agree with your observation, they're definitely a "no frills" workhorse skate shoe. Get the job done and don't look hideous, but aren't some sleek neck turners when you see em. That's what sold them for me. They aren't distracting to look at while skating and I regularly recommend them to people on here because of that.

Also, let's peep that on foot shot in the shoe wearing thread haha!
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 28, 2021, 12:08:09 PM
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Etnies Michelin Maranas (Joslin colorway BLK/GUM) just arrived. Straight out of the box they are lightyears more comfortable for my feet than the 1010s; the Maranas feel more broken in new than the 1010s do after 6+hours skating and 10 ish hours of walking around, albeit at the cost of just feeling like a 'generic' skate shoe (not a dig, just an observation).
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Just wrapped up a few hours in them on the board, feel great, already breaking in nicely. Again, PM for a good deal on those 1010s.
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I almost exclusively skate etnies Marana/Joslin, so I'm stoked someone else digs em!  I agree with your observation, they're definitely a "no frills" workhorse skate shoe. Get the job done and don't look hideous, but aren't some sleek neck turners when you see em. That's what sold them for me. They aren't distracting to look at while skating and I regularly recommend them to people on here because of that.

Also, let's peep that on foot shot in the shoe wearing thread haha!

They're throwing off a Reynolds 2 vibe (probably just the colorway); also, props to the hidden lace savers, more companies should do that. Pretty sure as soon as they hit the blown out state, they're going to feel great. I'm not a fan of toe cap shoes as I feel it hinders more than helps - in the beginning anyway - so we'll see how that goes.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: TheBoognish on February 28, 2021, 01:06:29 PM
Anyone skate the Joslin 2’s ?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 28, 2021, 02:12:21 PM
Anyone skate the Joslin 2’s ?

I was going to get them over the Maranas but couldn't find them in my size )+lots of reviews say to size up or down, too much confusion to go through that shit again).
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Frank on February 28, 2021, 02:25:18 PM
Anyone skate the Joslin 2’s ?

@Dark pools

maybe check his posts, he talked a lot about them. been keeping my eye on these as well, but couldn't cop yet. my size is always out when i look them up.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: MusclesMarinara on February 28, 2021, 02:53:17 PM
Anyone skate the Joslin 2’s ?

I didn't skate only tried on, but I personally wasn't a fan of them. I was looking for a puffier cup with arch support but they weren't as big as they looked online. They're super stiff out of the box which I do like but they are very flat. Honestly they reminded me of Accel OGs except not being comfortable at all.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on February 28, 2021, 03:11:06 PM
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Anyone skate the Joslin 2’s ?
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I didn't skate only tried on, but I personally wasn't a fan of them. I was looking for a puffier cup with arch support but they weren't as big as they looked online. They're super stiff out of the box which I do like but they are very flat. Honestly they reminded me of Accel OGs except not being comfortable at all.

I have skated my Joslin 2s but not very much. I'm still super used to Marana, Joslin 1 and Reynolds G6 so I'm running those while I break my 2s in from walking around.
They are comfortable, in my opinion. Better heel cushion and a pretty solid ankle lock when you find the right tightness with the laces/strap combo (or strap removal) over the other etnies I mentioned above.

Sole was bouncy and squishy, which was different than how Marana/Joslin 1 were stiff but bouncy (responsive). Pretty good board feel early on but it can only get better with more wear I think. Definitely bulkier than the other two. Rubber sole seemed softer and not as durable for the handful of sessions I got in them.

I think these 2s need a longer adjustment period than Marana/Joslin 1 to be ideal but they have good potential to skate really well and feel supportive.

Also, these fit similarly to the Marana/Joslin 1. I'd go with the same size you get in those. They run small on me so I go 0.5 up from my usual Vans/Nike/Lakai/Adidas size.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: TheBoognish on February 28, 2021, 03:54:41 PM
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Anyone skate the Joslin 2’s ?
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I didn't skate only tried on, but I personally wasn't a fan of them. I was looking for a puffier cup with arch support but they weren't as big as they looked online. They're super stiff out of the box which I do like but they are very flat. Honestly they reminded me of Accel OGs except not being comfortable at all.
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I have skated my Joslin 2s but not very much. I'm still super used to Marana, Joslin 1 and Reynolds G6 so I'm running those while I break my 2s in from walking around.
They are comfortable, in my opinion. Better heel cushion and a pretty solid ankle lock when you find the right tightness with the laces/strap combo (or strap removal) over the other etnies I mentioned above.

Sole was bouncy and squishy, which was different than how Marana/Joslin 1 were stiff but bouncy (responsive). Pretty good board feel early on but it can only get better with more wear I think. Definitely bulkier than the other two. Rubber sole seemed softer and not as durable for the handful of sessions I got in them.

I think these 2s need a longer adjustment period than Marana/Joslin 1 to be ideal but they have good potential to skate really well and feel supportive.

Also, these fit similarly to the Marana/Joslin 1. I'd go with the same size you get in those. They run small on me so I go 0.5 up from my usual Vans/Nike/Lakai/Adidas size.
Damn thanks for the in-depth review.

The only Etnies I’ve ever skated were the Vallely’s in 2001 and the Dill 2 mids in ‘08-‘09.

For 60$ I’m guessing it’s worth it ?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: MusclesMarinara on February 28, 2021, 04:48:30 PM
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I didn't skate only tried on, but I personally wasn't a fan of them. I was looking for a puffier cup with arch support but they weren't as big as they looked online. They're super stiff out of the box which I do like but they are very flat. Honestly they reminded me of Accel OGs except not being comfortable at all.
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I have skated my Joslin 2s but not very much. I'm still super used to Marana, Joslin 1 and Reynolds G6 so I'm running those while I break my 2s in from walking around.
They are comfortable, in my opinion. Better heel cushion and a pretty solid ankle lock when you find the right tightness with the laces/strap combo (or strap removal) over the other etnies I mentioned above.

Sole was bouncy and squishy, which was different than how Marana/Joslin 1 were stiff but bouncy (responsive). Pretty good board feel early on but it can only get better with more wear I think. Definitely bulkier than the other two. Rubber sole seemed softer and not as durable for the handful of sessions I got in them.

I think these 2s need a longer adjustment period than Marana/Joslin 1 to be ideal but they have good potential to skate really well and feel supportive.

Also, these fit similarly to the Marana/Joslin 1. I'd go with the same size you get in those. They run small on me so I go 0.5 up from my usual Vans/Nike/Lakai/Adidas size.
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Damn thanks for the in-depth review.

The only Etnies I’ve ever skated were the Vallely’s in 2001 and the Dill 2 mids in ‘08-‘09.

For 60$ I’m guessing it’s worth it ?

Sorry I should have put at the end of my post "in my opinion" as DarkPools did. I was just disappointed when they came in since they really weren't what I was expecting after reading and watching some reviews on them. I've never worn any etnies in the past either so I really can't compare them to any other of their models.im sure they're super durable but just not enough puff and comfort I'm still searching for.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on March 01, 2021, 12:43:17 AM
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I didn't skate only tried on, but I personally wasn't a fan of them. I was looking for a puffier cup with arch support but they weren't as big as they looked online. They're super stiff out of the box which I do like but they are very flat. Honestly they reminded me of Accel OGs except not being comfortable at all.
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I have skated my Joslin 2s but not very much. I'm still super used to Marana, Joslin 1 and Reynolds G6 so I'm running those while I break my 2s in from walking around.
They are comfortable, in my opinion. Better heel cushion and a pretty solid ankle lock when you find the right tightness with the laces/strap combo (or strap removal) over the other etnies I mentioned above.

Sole was bouncy and squishy, which was different than how Marana/Joslin 1 were stiff but bouncy (responsive). Pretty good board feel early on but it can only get better with more wear I think. Definitely bulkier than the other two. Rubber sole seemed softer and not as durable for the handful of sessions I got in them.

I think these 2s need a longer adjustment period than Marana/Joslin 1 to be ideal but they have good potential to skate really well and feel supportive.

Also, these fit similarly to the Marana/Joslin 1. I'd go with the same size you get in those. They run small on me so I go 0.5 up from my usual Vans/Nike/Lakai/Adidas size.
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Damn thanks for the in-depth review.

The only Etnies I’ve ever skated were the Vallely’s in 2001 and the Dill 2 mids in ‘08-‘09.

For 60$ I’m guessing it’s worth it ?
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Sorry I should have put at the end of my post "in my opinion" as DarkPools did. I was just disappointed when they came in since they really weren't what I was expecting after reading and watching some reviews on them. I've never worn any etnies in the past either so I really can't compare them to any other of their models.im sure they're super durable but just not enough puff and comfort I'm still searching for.

No worries! I think we all assumed (or I'm assuming that's what everyone thought lol)  that it was your personal take on the shoe. I had a different experience, so I offered it for Boognish. I am a bit biased since etnies are my current favorite shoe company to skate in. They look mad puffy in the photos but definitely feel slimmer on foot. That works for some and not others. Good luck on your search for a puffy/comfortable but also super skateable shoe, though!!

Boognish, I would think so! I would buy them at $60, especially if you wanna try them and not do full price. These shoes are somewhere in between the two etnies you skated. They aren't puffy beasts like Vallely's, but they're not some slimmer vulcs from the late 2000s like the Dills. More of a modern cupsole with better padding. I think much of current Etnies are good shoes, including these.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on March 01, 2021, 01:42:07 PM
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Etnies Michelin Maranas (Joslin colorway BLK/GUM) just arrived. Straight out of the box they are lightyears more comfortable for my feet than the 1010s; the Maranas feel more broken in new than the 1010s do after 6+hours skating and 10 ish hours of walking around, albeit at the cost of just feeling like a 'generic' skate shoe (not a dig, just an observation).
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Just wrapped up a few hours in them on the board, feel great, already breaking in nicely. Again, PM for a good deal on those 1010s.
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I almost exclusively skate etnies Marana/Joslin, so I'm stoked someone else digs em!  I agree with your observation, they're definitely a "no frills" workhorse skate shoe. Get the job done and don't look hideous, but aren't some sleek neck turners when you see em. That's what sold them for me. They aren't distracting to look at while skating and I regularly recommend them to people on here because of that.

Also, let's peep that on foot shot in the shoe wearing thread haha!

Second session, didn't even think about adjusting/or feel like I was in new shoes; sure they're not fully broken in but no pinching, heel slip, etc. Very grippy and no toe cap not interference with kicklips. Pretty happy with them...my ankles were a little sore today after the session, but it could be to the stupid long feebles forcing an awkward foot position.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: radcunt on March 01, 2021, 03:23:02 PM
I've skated Nike GT Blazers for years but recently swapped to Vans Half Cab Pros.  They're way more comfy, but I find myself skating worse in them as i'm so used to the paper thin Nikes.  I want more support still thought than the Nikes, so i'm looking at Cup soles.  What Cup soles give a good middle ground?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Lloyd Braun on March 01, 2021, 08:35:39 PM
I've skated Nike GT Blazers for years but recently swapped to Vans Half Cab Pros.  They're way more comfy, but I find myself skating worse in them as i'm so used to the paper thin Nikes.  I want more support still thought than the Nikes, so i'm looking at Cup soles.  What Cup soles give a good middle ground?

New Balance 440's are a pretty good middle ground.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on March 02, 2021, 12:10:54 AM
^^ Es Swift 1.5 and Accel Slim Plus sound like good options. NB# 440, Kalis S if you don't mind the sock-like fit and lace loops, Lakai Atlantic/Carrol, and possibly the Nike GTS Return.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: gsosa on March 02, 2021, 08:50:48 AM
^^ Es Swift 1.5 and Accel Slim Plus sound like good options. NB# 440, Kalis S if you don't mind the sock-like fit and lace loops, Lakai Atlantic/Carrol, and possibly the Nike GTS Return.
Add Legacy slims to that list. One of the best shoes out.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: S. on March 02, 2021, 10:36:29 AM
I am currently skating the és evant. I like it alot. A very solid shoe for a wide foot. It is basicly a re-issue of the koston 3.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on March 02, 2021, 04:03:11 PM
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^^ Es Swift 1.5 and Accel Slim Plus sound like good options. NB# 440, Kalis S if you don't mind the sock-like fit and lace loops, Lakai Atlantic/Carrol, and possibly the Nike GTS Return.
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Add Legacy slims to that list. One of the best shoes out.

Will take your word for it - had a 30% off one item code and nabbed the BLK/WHT/REDs for $45 shipped
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ol Nick on March 02, 2021, 09:10:35 PM
I've skated Nike GT Blazers for years but recently swapped to Vans Half Cab Pros.  They're way more comfy, but I find myself skating worse in them as i'm so used to the paper thin Nikes.  I want more support still thought than the Nikes, so i'm looking at Cup soles.  What Cup soles give a good middle ground?
Might be worth checking out Nike Team Classics or GTS Return. Team Classics felt minimal but supportive and way more durable than I would’ve expected. The sole wore down before the suede or the other fabric gave out. Just started skating a pair of GTS today and although they feel a bit stiffer, they’re super light and stable. We’ll see how they wear.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: radcunt on March 03, 2021, 12:12:39 AM
Sweet, thanks. Never seen the GTS before and just aesthetics alone, they look sick. Like a slim dunk. Need to go try some on.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: HugeBodBoyle on March 03, 2021, 03:37:05 AM
There really is no Nike made Dunk analog.

Just from looks, it appears that the Adidas Forum 84 ADV is Dunk-like.

I got the GTS thinking the same thing, but it breaks down pretty fast and ends up feeling a bit floppy and squishy.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Skatebeard on March 06, 2021, 01:09:38 AM
Can anyone who has/had a pair of Tiago 1010 comment on the width of the shoe?

I'm struggling to find any gen on that specifically... my feet are pretty narrow from the ankle right down to the forefoot, and in the forefoot I tend to slide side to side in a lot of shoes, especially DCs.

I'm in Tyshawns at the moment which are great as they are narrow all through the shoe.... but like the look of the 1010s.

So yeah, how do they come up? Wide/average/narrow?

Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Frank on March 06, 2021, 05:54:05 AM
Can anyone who has/had a pair of Tiago 1010 comment on the width of the shoe?

I'm struggling to find any gen on that specifically... my feet are pretty narrow from the ankle right down to the forefoot, and in the forefoot I tend to slide side to side in a lot of shoes, especially DCs.

I'm in Tyshawns at the moment which are great as they are narrow all through the shoe.... but like the look of the 1010s.

So yeah, how do they come up? Wide/average/narrow?

i have narrow ankles and heel lock is great, but the shoe is definetly roomier than most in the forefoot, but also tapers a fair bit. i have no comparison to dcs, but i'd imagine it's a bit slimmer than something like a lynx and probably on par with a legacy. it's definetly wider than my blazers, but not as wide as my old pair of dunks or at least feels more contoured to the foot. so i'd say average/wide.

Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Skatebeard on March 06, 2021, 07:27:28 AM
Think I'll just have to try them on and see what's what...cheers.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on March 07, 2021, 01:24:24 PM
Think I'll just have to try them on and see what's what...cheers.

I wear a 10 and found the 1010s in a 10 too big, like half a size to a full size. Dropped to a 9.5, nice and snug but they pinched my pinky toes and after a week of chilling in them and a week of skating they just never broke in enough for me to keep with them.

Switched over the Etnies Marana and they are gold.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Skatebeard on March 10, 2021, 02:10:52 AM
Xen, you were bang on the money with that - NBs arrived yesterday... really nice shoe, but wow is their sizing ever messed up... I reckon they come up a good size bigger than most other shoes i've tried... the 10.5 was huge, held them up to my DCs in the same size and you could see how much longer they are.

I've returned them for now, but may hunt out a smaller size in future as they feel pretty good.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on March 10, 2021, 05:44:19 AM
Xen, you were bang on the money with that - NBs arrived yesterday... really nice shoe, but wow is their sizing ever messed up... I reckon they come up a good size bigger than most other shoes i've tried... the 10.5 was huge, held them up to my DCs in the same size and you could see how much longer they are.

I've returned them for now, but may hunt out a smaller size in future as they feel pretty good.

This may complicate things but I found my normal size 1010s too small. I may try to sell my 11s since I probably need an 11.5. Nearly all of NB# shoes run small on me (older and newer models) expect for 212/213 (0.5 down since the jump) so I've been shocked to hear people say they need to go down in the 1010s haha! But yeah, they're all over the place on sizing from season to season, trying to get it standardized. It's why I mostly run Etnies Michelin cups and I have no worries haha!
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on September 27, 2022, 09:00:07 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/fvNb03n/7253d7434588315b05cd8a0b718fee83-fantasy-story-dark-fantasy.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fvNb03n)

Last pairs were emerica KSLs, good shoe, hate the colorways these days (+ green sole gets your grip puke yellow), followed by the Tiago 808s (same ill fit I had with the 1010s but better more TTS and while they may be too snug, they are freaking comfy as fuck).

Skating nike SB GT Blazers now for two days and my feet are killing me so it's back to cupsoles.

Would prefer mids, Tried Tyshawns, but too tight...afraid to gamble on going up half a size.

Recommendations?

Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: huggernaut on September 27, 2022, 10:00:03 PM
I am currently skating the és evant. I like it alot. A very solid shoe for a wide foot. It is basicly a re-issue of the koston 3.

This sounds great…currently on their site in one color and one size. Lol
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: rocklobster on September 27, 2022, 10:03:42 PM
Seconded on eS, even better if they come with the Swift 1.5 outsole.

Switched from vulc to cupsoles exclusively 6 months ago and worked through 1 pair of eS Accel Slims and 1 pair of eS Accel Slim Everstitch. The stitching needed super glue to keep them intact but the outsole and sole were really durable, it was mostly Shoe Goo at that point but no holes on the bottom at all. TTS and a moderately wide toe box that didn't squeeze my bunions.

Really liked the the added (somewhat gimicky) features on the Everstitch Plus:
1) Tongue centering strap for a very snug feel
2) Over the top strap so I could put the shoes on without undoing laces
3) Hidden lace loops were a godsend for someone who goes through laces like crazy, I have to change up ever 3-4 sessions

Had a bunch of vulcs stocked up but I'm selling those and going all in on eS shoes. It's a shame it looks like they stopped making the Everstich or Accels with straps but the Swift 1.5 with the great outsole and hidden lace loops are the next best choice.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: GetItStraitRideKrooked on September 27, 2022, 10:09:00 PM
I’ve been really digging emerica gammas lately. If you can get the G6 davidson colorway, that G6 is noticeable. But the gamma is an overall great cupsole.

I’ve been alternating between gammas and ksl’s this year and I like the gamma more, especially the G6.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on September 27, 2022, 10:15:32 PM
I’ve been really digging emerica gammas lately. If you can get the G6 davidson colorway, that G6 is noticeable. But the gamma is an overall great cupsole.

I’ve been alternating between gammas and ksl’s this year and I like the gamma more, especially the G6.

Gammas look too narrow, how are they compared to the ksl….swear we did this discussion already lol
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: huggernaut on September 27, 2022, 10:18:52 PM
Been a vulc guy forever, but thinking about trying some different cupsoles after being pretty happy with a pair of cupsole Emerica slip ons.

My foot is fairly wide and I’m a size 14 so trying on in store basically a no go. 

I guess starting at some of the more recommended models: any comparison between the marana and the accel?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: j....soy..... on September 27, 2022, 10:33:56 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/fvNb03n/7253d7434588315b05cd8a0b718fee83-fantasy-story-dark-fantasy.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fvNb03n)

Last pairs were emerica KSLs, good shoe, hate the colorways these days (+ green sole gets your grip puke yellow), followed by the Tiago 808s (same ill fit I had with the 1010s but better more TTS and while they may be too snug, they are freaking comfy as fuck).

Skating nike SB GT Blazers now for two days and my feet are killing me so it's back to cupsoles.

Would prefer mids, Tried Tyshawns, but too tight...afraid to gamble on going up half a size.

Recommendations?

I have skinny feet so tyshawns work but yes, snug…if I was gonna try something else it would be fastbreaks or 440’s…..
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: GetItStraitRideKrooked on September 27, 2022, 10:39:16 PM
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I’ve been really digging emerica gammas lately. If you can get the G6 davidson colorway, that G6 is noticeable. But the gamma is an overall great cupsole.

I’ve been alternating between gammas and ksl’s this year and I like the gamma more, especially the G6.
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Gammas look too narrow, how are they compared to the ksl….swear we did this discussion already lol

Yeah that’s probably why I like em better bc I’ve got a narrower foot haha

The gammas hold up a little longer
 and have what feels like zero break in period for me.

Ksl is a short break in but it’s noticeable to me. Gammas are a little cheaper too

Idk if they’ll bring back the spanly g6 but that’s a good cupsole too.
 
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: rocklobster on September 27, 2022, 11:35:31 PM
Been a vulc guy forever, but thinking about trying some different cupsoles after being pretty happy with a pair of cupsole Emerica slip ons.

My foot is fairly wide and I’m a size 14 so trying on in store basically a no go. 

I guess starting at some of the more recommended models: any comparison between the marana and the accel?

Not ridden the Marana outside or just trying them on at home but they feel a lot slimmer than they look, in a good way. Heard lots of good things about the Michelin sole, I'd go so far as to say Soletech does a good job with their cupsoles in across the range.

eS has lots of Accel Slims aned Swift 1.5 on sale for under $45, worth checking out their website and use WELCOME20 for 20% off an online order (single use). Can be used on the Emerica, Ethnies and eS web stores.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on September 28, 2022, 01:42:48 PM
Was able to try the Tyshawn a half size up: 10.5 is the way; tiniest bit of heel slip if I don't use the the top eyelet (so I will)...perfect heellock using the extra eyelet and racers loop. Plenty of width and length and not too much lift in the heel.

Walked out with the Spitfire X Tyshawn....normally I don't do all black but been skating some dirty ass spots lately.

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Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: j....soy..... on September 28, 2022, 01:54:15 PM
They are bricks but do break in…..I’m always skating a new pair and and old one….new one fit so tight and the old ones are almost swimmy….so there is hope. 
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on September 28, 2022, 02:22:25 PM
They are bricks but do break in…..I’m always skating a new pair and and old one….new one fit so tight and the old ones are almost swimmy….so there is hope. 

They feel like slippers compared to the 808s.

The 10.5 is snug in the heel and around the mid foot but with wiggle room for my toes, which the 808s did not have in the toe box.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: SlapTM on September 28, 2022, 04:43:29 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/fvNb03n/7253d7434588315b05cd8a0b718fee83-fantasy-story-dark-fantasy.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fvNb03n)

Last pairs were emerica KSLs, good shoe, hate the colorways these days (+ green sole gets your grip puke yellow), followed by the Tiago 808s (same ill fit I had with the 1010s but better more TTS and while they may be too snug, they are freaking comfy as fuck).

Skating nike SB GT Blazers now for two days and my feet are killing me so it's back to cupsoles.

Would prefer mids, Tried Tyshawns, but too tight...afraid to gamble on going up half a size.

Recommendations?
If you dislike the green sole on the KSL G6, we just dropped the Black/Gum colorway.

https://emerica.com/collections/spanky/products/ksl-g6-black-black-gum-6102000132-544


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I’ve been really digging emerica gammas lately. If you can get the G6 davidson colorway, that G6 is noticeable. But the gamma is an overall great cupsole.

I’ve been alternating between gammas and ksl’s this year and I like the gamma more, especially the G6.
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Gammas look too narrow, how are they compared to the ksl….swear we did this discussion already lol
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Yeah that’s probably why I like em better bc I’ve got a narrower foot haha

The gammas hold up a little longer
 and have what feels like zero break in period for me.

Ksl is a short break in but it’s noticeable to me. Gammas are a little cheaper too

Idk if they’ll bring back the spanly g6 but that’s a good cupsole too.

We're releasing 1 colorway of the Spanky G6 a season until the Spanky G6 Mid drops next Holiday.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: huggernaut on September 28, 2022, 04:51:28 PM
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(https://i.ibb.co/fvNb03n/7253d7434588315b05cd8a0b718fee83-fantasy-story-dark-fantasy.jpg) (https://ibb.co/fvNb03n)

Last pairs were emerica KSLs, good shoe, hate the colorways these days (+ green sole gets your grip puke yellow), followed by the Tiago 808s (same ill fit I had with the 1010s but better more TTS and while they may be too snug, they are freaking comfy as fuck).

Skating nike SB GT Blazers now for two days and my feet are killing me so it's back to cupsoles.

Would prefer mids, Tried Tyshawns, but too tight...afraid to gamble on going up half a size.

Recommendations?
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If you dislike the green sole on the KSL G6, we just dropped the Black/Gum colorway.

https://emerica.com/collections/spanky/products/ksl-g6-black-black-gum-6102000132-544


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I’ve been really digging emerica gammas lately. If you can get the G6 davidson colorway, that G6 is noticeable. But the gamma is an overall great cupsole.

I’ve been alternating between gammas and ksl’s this year and I like the gamma more, especially the G6.
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Gammas look too narrow, how are they compared to the ksl….swear we did this discussion already lol
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Yeah that’s probably why I like em better bc I’ve got a narrower foot haha

The gammas hold up a little longer
 and have what feels like zero break in period for me.

Ksl is a short break in but it’s noticeable to me. Gammas are a little cheaper too

Idk if they’ll bring back the spanly g6 but that’s a good cupsole too.
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We're releasing 1 colorway of the Spanky G6 a season until the Spanky G6 Mid drops next Holiday.

I tried the ksl but found the toe a bit pointy and didn’t have room in the toe box for my big toe. Any of the other Emerica cupsoles wider up there?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Paco Supreme on September 28, 2022, 05:06:05 PM
NB440s felt very sturdy as a shoe.

Emerica has to me, a solid range of cup soles for everyone. Slip cup are good for a basic no frills, the spanky is good even if not to my taste, their quintin? The model leabres just had a colour out on, had the same sole as the Leo laced which are both thinner cups but bridge that gap nicely from vulc into cups
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on September 28, 2022, 06:02:23 PM
The 440 is def up there, as is the KSL; the 440 was a better fit for me, I'd say a more modern fit (toe box), where the KSL is defiantly a more 'classic' emerica/etnies shape but they broke in just fine.

I honestly don't understand why companies make shoes with certain shapes sometimes...especially something like the Gamma/Ishod/eS Stylus...some pointy narrow long ass tube feet...

So far just chilling the Tyshawns, they're gonna work...remind me a lot of the 3ST.003 but with a bit more shapely form factor...they don't feel as durable as the KSLs or 808s I've been on....but more durable than the GT Blazers...

Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: j....soy..... on September 28, 2022, 09:30:29 PM
I always go through the sole…
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on September 28, 2022, 09:52:20 PM
I always go through the sole…

I shuffle my feet a lot on (usually) grippy tape so I burn through soles no matter what; comes with the territory. I'm just happy it's a mid cup, that fits/doesn't hurt my feet and is regularly available in multiple colorways.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: whale on September 28, 2022, 11:08:12 PM
Will hold my final word on these after I’ve skated them all the way through, but Lakai Telford is a nice slimish cupsole that skates really good right out the box.
We’ll see how long these last.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: badmanganjaspliff on September 29, 2022, 01:17:26 AM
I always go through the sole…
me too, unless its a lynx or similar shoe my soles are blown out in a month easily... wanted to skate half cabs but can't for this reason... nb 808s are holding up so far
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: dstrytruitt on September 29, 2022, 06:04:20 AM
I had to go up a half-size in the Tyshawn and they work for me. I'm digging the Nora, too, also a half-size up.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Badmeaningood on September 29, 2022, 06:20:59 AM
I was close to pulling the trigger on some marana fiberlites which are a lot slimmer than the standard maranas, but having never seen them in the flesh and a lack of reviews scared me off.

Ended up getting some bruin reacts and after a couple of weeks skating in them, I'm impressed so far.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Murge on September 29, 2022, 06:22:47 AM
I was close to pulling the trigger on some marana fiberlites which are a lot slimmer than the standard maranas, but having never seen them in the flesh and a lack of reviews scared me off.

Ended up getting some bruin reacts and after a couple of weeks skating in them, I'm impressed so far.

Man those bruins look so good. I want to try them.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: dstrytruitt on September 29, 2022, 06:49:30 AM
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I was close to pulling the trigger on some marana fiberlites which are a lot slimmer than the standard maranas, but having never seen them in the flesh and a lack of reviews scared me off.

Ended up getting some bruin reacts and after a couple of weeks skating in them, I'm impressed so far.
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Man those bruins look so good. I want to try them.

Bruin reacts are quality, for sure. Boardfeel/support combo is on point.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Murge on September 29, 2022, 07:19:08 AM
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I was close to pulling the trigger on some marana fiberlites which are a lot slimmer than the standard maranas, but having never seen them in the flesh and a lack of reviews scared me off.

Ended up getting some bruin reacts and after a couple of weeks skating in them, I'm impressed so far.
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Man those bruins look so good. I want to try them.
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Bruin reacts are quality, for sure. Boardfeel/support combo is on point.

I’ve seen some on sale but not in my size. I should  have pulled the trigger when I had the chance.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: thehogsniper on September 29, 2022, 07:34:59 AM
Picked up the grey/black white bottom Tyshawns the other day at the Adidas outlet for $24 after 20% educator discount. They're not extremely well cushioned underfoot, but they feel really good on foot. I wear 10.5 in most stuff, but I went down to a 10 and they're breaking in good. I haven't skated Adidas before but their prices are outlet are too good to pass up. They had a pair of black Puigs in nearly every size for $45, tyshawn basketball shorts for $30, shmoo pants and hoodies for $30 a pop.

 I have a pair of gammas in the mail rn so we'll see how those work outm
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: IpathCats on September 29, 2022, 07:38:15 AM
Fastbreaks and dunks are the only decent cupsoles made for skating these days IMO, i havent tried those adidas forums, but they look like they would be good too. To be fair, i havent tried any of the DC's, but im a high top guy and they look WAY too bulky anyway.

TBH if you're looking for cupsoles, look at non skate shoe brands and buy some superglue. It's fun finding old/used stuff and skating in it (if it looks like it will skate well). You might be surprised how good some non skate shoes are to skate. Reebok and Asics both make shoes i've really enjoyed skating in.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: whale on September 29, 2022, 07:47:47 AM
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I was close to pulling the trigger on some marana fiberlites which are a lot slimmer than the standard maranas, but having never seen them in the flesh and a lack of reviews scared me off.

Ended up getting some bruin reacts and after a couple of weeks skating in them, I'm impressed so far.
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Man those bruins look so good. I want to try them.
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Bruin reacts are quality, for sure. Boardfeel/support combo is on point.
Best shoes imho, but they discontinued them?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DeepSpace9mm on September 29, 2022, 08:32:56 AM
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I was close to pulling the trigger on some marana fiberlites which are a lot slimmer than the standard maranas, but having never seen them in the flesh and a lack of reviews scared me off.

Ended up getting some bruin reacts and after a couple of weeks skating in them, I'm impressed so far.
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Man those bruins look so good. I want to try them.
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Bruin reacts are quality, for sure. Boardfeel/support combo is on point.
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Best shoes imho, but they discontinued them?

Hopefully they’re not discontinued. I’m skating some of the Bruin React right now and I’m enjoying them enough to consider buying another pair. I was on LRAB VM001 before.  I like lots of things about those too, but their sizing is wack and I’ve just accepted that they (LRAB) don’t make shoes that fit me (for skating). 

The React insoles seem great too as my feet aren’t noticeably sore after skating.

I’d recommend these shoes. They fit nicely in my normal size and in my experience are quite comfy and surprisingly durable. If I had superglued the stitches and used shoe goo they would be lasting much longer too.

I will say the laces that came with them are trash and ripped after like 2 ollies. Not a huge deal but they did not come with backups.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FS_Overcrook on September 29, 2022, 08:39:51 AM
Any Lakai XLK sole shoe. They currently have two different XLK cupsoles out.

The Atlantic and Telford Low (Manchild colorway): this sole has the hexagon tread that was on the Proto and is a bit more board feel.

The Trudger, Fade, and Evo 2.0 XLK: this sole is thicker for more impact support.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on September 29, 2022, 09:43:05 AM
Fastbreaks and dunks are the only decent cupsoles made for skating these days IMO, i havent tried those adidas forums, but they look like they would be good too. To be fair, i havent tried any of the DC's, but im a high top guy and they look WAY too bulky anyway.

TBH if you're looking for cupsoles, look at non skate shoe brands and buy some superglue. It's fun finding old/used stuff and skating in it (if it looks like it will skate well). You might be surprised how good some non skate shoes are to skate. Reebok and Asics both make shoes i've really enjoyed skating in.

I keep skipping on fastbreaks because of cons sizing (for me, usually a 1/2 size down) and they're never around locally to try on..next good fall colorway I'll just bit the bullet and mail order with an easy return policy.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: IpathCats on September 29, 2022, 09:58:26 AM
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Fastbreaks and dunks are the only decent cupsoles made for skating these days IMO, i havent tried those adidas forums, but they look like they would be good too. To be fair, i havent tried any of the DC's, but im a high top guy and they look WAY too bulky anyway.

TBH if you're looking for cupsoles, look at non skate shoe brands and buy some superglue. It's fun finding old/used stuff and skating in it (if it looks like it will skate well). You might be surprised how good some non skate shoes are to skate. Reebok and Asics both make shoes i've really enjoyed skating in.
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I keep skipping on fastbreaks because of cons sizing (for me, usually a 1/2 size down) and they're never around locally to try on..next good fall colorway I'll just bit the bullet and mail order with an easy return policy.

In my experience the fastbreaks were about 1/2 size big for me but i had some big FP insoles in them that fixed that somewhat. I'm a weird footsize though so this is like always the case for me. I would probably suggest you order a 1/2 down, still recommend going somewhere with an easy return though.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on September 29, 2022, 11:29:31 AM
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Fastbreaks and dunks are the only decent cupsoles made for skating these days IMO, i havent tried those adidas forums, but they look like they would be good too. To be fair, i havent tried any of the DC's, but im a high top guy and they look WAY too bulky anyway.

TBH if you're looking for cupsoles, look at non skate shoe brands and buy some superglue. It's fun finding old/used stuff and skating in it (if it looks like it will skate well). You might be surprised how good some non skate shoes are to skate. Reebok and Asics both make shoes i've really enjoyed skating in.
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I keep skipping on fastbreaks because of cons sizing (for me, usually a 1/2 size down) and they're never around locally to try on..next good fall colorway I'll just bit the bullet and mail order with an easy return policy.
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In my experience the fastbreaks were about 1/2 size big for me but i had some big FP insoles in them that fixed that somewhat. I'm a weird footsize though so this is like always the case for me. I would probably suggest you order a 1/2 down, still recommend going somewhere with an easy return though.

In chucks and older one stars I always dropped to 9.5. Current One stars, Louie's mid shoe and Check Point Pro I've gone 10 and they have been tts...seems the fastbreaks follow the 'older' cons mold (which makes sense give the shoe and it's origin).

I'm sick of shoe sampling, and hope the Tyshawn's work out so I can just stick with one shoe.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: IpathCats on September 29, 2022, 11:42:32 AM
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Fastbreaks and dunks are the only decent cupsoles made for skating these days IMO, i havent tried those adidas forums, but they look like they would be good too. To be fair, i havent tried any of the DC's, but im a high top guy and they look WAY too bulky anyway.

TBH if you're looking for cupsoles, look at non skate shoe brands and buy some superglue. It's fun finding old/used stuff and skating in it (if it looks like it will skate well). You might be surprised how good some non skate shoes are to skate. Reebok and Asics both make shoes i've really enjoyed skating in.
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I keep skipping on fastbreaks because of cons sizing (for me, usually a 1/2 size down) and they're never around locally to try on..next good fall colorway I'll just bit the bullet and mail order with an easy return policy.
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In my experience the fastbreaks were about 1/2 size big for me but i had some big FP insoles in them that fixed that somewhat. I'm a weird footsize though so this is like always the case for me. I would probably suggest you order a 1/2 down, still recommend going somewhere with an easy return though.
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In chucks and older one stars I always dropped to 9.5. Current One stars, Louie's mid shoe and Check Point Pro I've gone 10 and they have been tts...seems the fastbreaks follow the 'older' cons mold (which makes sense give the shoe and it's origin).

I'm sick of shoe sampling, and hope the Tyshawn's work out so I can just stick with one shoe.

I think the fastbreak might be tts for you then. i hear the chucks fit super long, so if you only went a half size down for those the fastbreaks are probably perfect
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: SlapTM on September 29, 2022, 11:51:48 AM
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Last pairs were emerica KSLs, good shoe, hate the colorways these days (+ green sole gets your grip puke yellow), followed by the Tiago 808s (same ill fit I had with the 1010s but better more TTS and while they may be too snug, they are freaking comfy as fuck).

Skating nike SB GT Blazers now for two days and my feet are killing me so it's back to cupsoles.

Would prefer mids, Tried Tyshawns, but too tight...afraid to gamble on going up half a size.

Recommendations?
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If you dislike the green sole on the KSL G6, we just dropped the Black/Gum colorway.

https://emerica.com/collections/spanky/products/ksl-g6-black-black-gum-6102000132-544


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I’ve been really digging emerica gammas lately. If you can get the G6 davidson colorway, that G6 is noticeable. But the gamma is an overall great cupsole.

I’ve been alternating between gammas and ksl’s this year and I like the gamma more, especially the G6.
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Gammas look too narrow, how are they compared to the ksl….swear we did this discussion already lol
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Yeah that’s probably why I like em better bc I’ve got a narrower foot haha

The gammas hold up a little longer
 and have what feels like zero break in period for me.

Ksl is a short break in but it’s noticeable to me. Gammas are a little cheaper too

Idk if they’ll bring back the spanly g6 but that’s a good cupsole too.
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We're releasing 1 colorway of the Spanky G6 a season until the Spanky G6 Mid drops next Holiday.
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I tried the ksl but found the toe a bit pointy and didn’t have room in the toe box for my big toe. Any of the other Emerica cupsoles wider up there?
Have you looked into the Gamma, Romero Laced, Wino Slip Cup or Figueroa? The Quentin just came out but that shoe doesn't have as much support as the others.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: j....soy..... on September 29, 2022, 12:00:45 PM
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Fastbreaks and dunks are the only decent cupsoles made for skating these days IMO, i havent tried those adidas forums, but they look like they would be good too. To be fair, i havent tried any of the DC's, but im a high top guy and they look WAY too bulky anyway.

TBH if you're looking for cupsoles, look at non skate shoe brands and buy some superglue. It's fun finding old/used stuff and skating in it (if it looks like it will skate well). You might be surprised how good some non skate shoes are to skate. Reebok and Asics both make shoes i've really enjoyed skating in.
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I keep skipping on fastbreaks because of cons sizing (for me, usually a 1/2 size down) and they're never around locally to try on..next good fall colorway I'll just bit the bullet and mail order with an easy return policy.
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In my experience the fastbreaks were about 1/2 size big for me but i had some big FP insoles in them that fixed that somewhat. I'm a weird footsize though so this is like always the case for me. I would probably suggest you order a 1/2 down, still recommend going somewhere with an easy return though.
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In chucks and older one stars I always dropped to 9.5. Current One stars, Louie's mid shoe and Check Point Pro I've gone 10 and they have been tts...seems the fastbreaks follow the 'older' cons mold (which makes sense give the shoe and it's origin).

I'm sick of shoe sampling, and hope the Tyshawn's work out so I can just stick with one shoe.
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I think the fastbreak might be tts for you then. i hear the chucks fit super long, so if you only went a half size down for those the fastbreaks are probably perfect

I’ve heard fastbreaks are TTS as well…..anyone else confirm?

I’m stuck on the tyshawns, they are always on sale and Adidas seems to be constantly be putting out new colors.  I think I’m sitting on six pairs…
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on September 29, 2022, 12:02:50 PM
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Fastbreaks and dunks are the only decent cupsoles made for skating these days IMO, i havent tried those adidas forums, but they look like they would be good too. To be fair, i havent tried any of the DC's, but im a high top guy and they look WAY too bulky anyway.

TBH if you're looking for cupsoles, look at non skate shoe brands and buy some superglue. It's fun finding old/used stuff and skating in it (if it looks like it will skate well). You might be surprised how good some non skate shoes are to skate. Reebok and Asics both make shoes i've really enjoyed skating in.
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I keep skipping on fastbreaks because of cons sizing (for me, usually a 1/2 size down) and they're never around locally to try on..next good fall colorway I'll just bit the bullet and mail order with an easy return policy.
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In my experience the fastbreaks were about 1/2 size big for me but i had some big FP insoles in them that fixed that somewhat. I'm a weird footsize though so this is like always the case for me. I would probably suggest you order a 1/2 down, still recommend going somewhere with an easy return though.
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In chucks and older one stars I always dropped to 9.5. Current One stars, Louie's mid shoe and Check Point Pro I've gone 10 and they have been tts...seems the fastbreaks follow the 'older' cons mold (which makes sense give the shoe and it's origin).

I'm sick of shoe sampling, and hope the Tyshawn's work out so I can just stick with one shoe.
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I think the fastbreak might be tts for you then. i hear the chucks fit super long, so if you only went a half size down for those the fastbreaks are probably perfect
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I’ve heard fastbreaks are TTS as well…..anyone else confirm?

I’m stuck on the tyshawns, they are always on sale and Adidas seems to be constantly be putting out new colors.  I think I’m sitting on six pairs…

If they work....
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: huggernaut on September 29, 2022, 12:12:53 PM

Have you looked into the Gamma, Romero Laced, Wino Slip Cup or Figueroa? The Quentin just came out but that shoe doesn't have as much support as the others.

Like the slip cup quite a bit, was just looking to try a laced alternative with a little more ankle support. Will check out one of those models.

The Figueroa doesn’t look like it has the ankle support, but sure is one fine looking shoe :)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: logjammin on September 29, 2022, 12:48:08 PM
Fastbreaks and dunks are the only decent cupsoles made for skating these days IMO, i havent tried those adidas forums, but they look like they would be good too. To be fair, i havent tried any of the DC's, but im a high top guy and they look WAY too bulky anyway.

TBH if you're looking for cupsoles, look at non skate shoe brands and buy some superglue. It's fun finding old/used stuff and skating in it (if it looks like it will skate well). You might be surprised how good some non skate shoes are to skate. Reebok and Asics both make shoes i've really enjoyed skating in.

I've had two pairs of the Emerica KSL G6 in different colorways and they have been the greatest thing to happen to my feet in years. Between Emerica and Lakai, there is still hope for cupsoles in skater-owned options, that aren't bad looking.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: CrustyCurbs on September 29, 2022, 01:18:22 PM
I've been skating DC Centrals lately.
Picked up a couple of pairs super cheap.
Wouldn't say it's the best looking shoe and wasn't expecting much but I've been pleasantly surprised
Found them to be really durable, getting a lot of wear out of them
Toe shape works well with my kickflip flick
Decent balance of enough padding without being overly puffy/bulky
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: handsclapanin on September 29, 2022, 03:50:20 PM
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Fastbreaks and dunks are the only decent cupsoles made for skating these days IMO, i havent tried those adidas forums, but they look like they would be good too. To be fair, i havent tried any of the DC's, but im a high top guy and they look WAY too bulky anyway.

TBH if you're looking for cupsoles, look at non skate shoe brands and buy some superglue. It's fun finding old/used stuff and skating in it (if it looks like it will skate well). You might be surprised how good some non skate shoes are to skate. Reebok and Asics both make shoes i've really enjoyed skating in.
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I keep skipping on fastbreaks because of cons sizing (for me, usually a 1/2 size down) and they're never around locally to try on..next good fall colorway I'll just bit the bullet and mail order with an easy return policy.
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In my experience the fastbreaks were about 1/2 size big for me but i had some big FP insoles in them that fixed that somewhat. I'm a weird footsize though so this is like always the case for me. I would probably suggest you order a 1/2 down, still recommend going somewhere with an easy return though.
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In chucks and older one stars I always dropped to 9.5. Current One stars, Louie's mid shoe and Check Point Pro I've gone 10 and they have been tts...seems the fastbreaks follow the 'older' cons mold (which makes sense give the shoe and it's origin).

I'm sick of shoe sampling, and hope the Tyshawn's work out so I can just stick with one shoe.
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I think the fastbreak might be tts for you then. i hear the chucks fit super long, so if you only went a half size down for those the fastbreaks are probably perfect
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I’ve heard fastbreaks are TTS as well…..anyone else confirm?

I’m stuck on the tyshawns, they are always on sale and Adidas seems to be constantly be putting out new colors.  I think I’m sitting on six pairs…
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If they work....

Fastbreaks were TTS for me - 9.5.
I'd like to try a suede pair. But would never get another synthetic pair, like I had.
My foot was sliding around inside the shoe a dangerous amount. Even with the laces cranked.
They do look cool though.

I had some Tyshawns in a 9.5. Way too tight. Even bought a shoe stretcher for them. Didn't work.
Still haven't tried on a 10 to see how it would feel.

I'm also sitting on 6 pairs of my chosen cup - Etnies Joslin. 9.5. Love em.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: JJ_Skates on September 29, 2022, 04:14:25 PM
Es Accel OG's or the Plus variant.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FROTHY on September 29, 2022, 04:39:38 PM
I was deciding between Puigs and Tiago 1010s and wound up pulling the trigger on the Tiagos because I think the black/white/translucent-gum is nice and will sell out fast. I watched some reviews on the Puigs and it sounds like they’re flimsy and narrow with no notable qualities besides the unique appearance.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Murge on September 29, 2022, 09:03:38 PM
I had to go up a half-size in the Tyshawn and they work for me. I'm digging the Nora, too, also a half-size up.

How are the Nora’s ? They look good and I want to try them but afraid I’ll be bummed. Love the wino cup and spanky g6 and nb 508 but not a huge fan of the 440 or the Crockett soles. They don’t seem as comfortable. How’s the Nora’s compare?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 29, 2022, 09:40:08 PM
Fastbreaks and dunks are the only decent cupsoles made for skating these days IMO, i havent tried those adidas forums, but they look like they would be good too. To be fair, i havent tried any of the DC's, but im a high top guy and they look WAY too bulky anyway.

TBH if you're looking for cupsoles, look at non skate shoe brands and buy some superglue. It's fun finding old/used stuff and skating in it (if it looks like it will skate well). You might be surprised how good some non skate shoes are to skate. Reebok and Asics both make shoes i've really enjoyed skating in.

Hard disagree- Fastbreaks are known for not being durable and at least for me Dunks weren't anything special. Good grip but I felt worse board feel than Jordans and don't like the extra bulk in the heel area. The heel pods on the low are worst. There are so many less bulky cups that have just as good build quality and have advanced in the last 15 years that it's kinda bold to say they're the only decent cups. The fact that they're annoying to get creates a fake nostalgia and leads us to believe they're better than they really are. Not bad by any means, but this thread demonstrates that it's easy to find a great cup that fits your foot shape.

Is anyone skating the KSL anymore? I haven't seen them talked about much lately. Those and Slip Cups do interest me a bit.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Lashes2ashes on September 29, 2022, 09:51:24 PM
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Fastbreaks and dunks are the only decent cupsoles made for skating these days IMO, i havent tried those adidas forums, but they look like they would be good too. To be fair, i havent tried any of the DC's, but im a high top guy and they look WAY too bulky anyway.

TBH if you're looking for cupsoles, look at non skate shoe brands and buy some superglue. It's fun finding old/used stuff and skating in it (if it looks like it will skate well). You might be surprised how good some non skate shoes are to skate. Reebok and Asics both make shoes i've really enjoyed skating in.
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Hard disagree- Fastbreaks are known for not being durable and at least for me Dunks weren't anything special. Good grip but I felt worse board feel than Jordans and don't like the extra bulk in the heel area. The heel pods on the low are worst. There are so many less bulky cups that have just as good build quality and have advanced in the last 15 years that it's kinda bold to say they're the only decent cups. The fact that they're annoying to get creates a fake nostalgia and leads us to believe they're better than they really are. Not bad by any means, but this thread demonstrates that it's easy to find a great cup that fits your foot shape.

Is anyone skating the KSL anymore? I haven't seen them talked about much lately. Those and Slip Cups do interest me a bit.
Ksl? The g6 ones right? I bought a pair the other day and now am selling them lol, I’m sure they’re amazing. But the only cupsole I really have experience with is the waffle cup, I have heard it’s not a true cupsole? I just know that street skating I was fine with the ksl no issues, when I went to the park I almost died on everything I tried, shit just dropping in I almost slipped out. Might just be from going from vans but I felt like I hade zero boardfeel, but people way better than me love them! So might just be me.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ridethegutter on September 29, 2022, 10:31:25 PM
I am on my 7th pair of tyshawns. Hands down my favorite cupsole. I also like the tiago 1010’s. I’ve had 2 pairs of those. Both shoes have been very durable for me. 
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: logjammin on September 30, 2022, 06:20:53 AM
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Fastbreaks and dunks are the only decent cupsoles made for skating these days IMO, i havent tried those adidas forums, but they look like they would be good too. To be fair, i havent tried any of the DC's, but im a high top guy and they look WAY too bulky anyway.

TBH if you're looking for cupsoles, look at non skate shoe brands and buy some superglue. It's fun finding old/used stuff and skating in it (if it looks like it will skate well). You might be surprised how good some non skate shoes are to skate. Reebok and Asics both make shoes i've really enjoyed skating in.
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Hard disagree- Fastbreaks are known for not being durable and at least for me Dunks weren't anything special. Good grip but I felt worse board feel than Jordans and don't like the extra bulk in the heel area. The heel pods on the low are worst. There are so many less bulky cups that have just as good build quality and have advanced in the last 15 years that it's kinda bold to say they're the only decent cups. The fact that they're annoying to get creates a fake nostalgia and leads us to believe they're better than they really are. Not bad by any means, but this thread demonstrates that it's easy to find a great cup that fits your foot shape.

Is anyone skating the KSL anymore? I haven't seen them talked about much lately. Those and Slip Cups do interest me a bit.
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Ksl? The g6 ones right? I bought a pair the other day and now am selling them lol, I’m sure they’re amazing. But the only cupsole I really have experience with is the waffle cup, I have heard it’s not a true cupsole? I just know that street skating I was fine with the ksl no issues, when I went to the park I almost died on everything I tried, shit just dropping in I almost slipped out. Might just be from going from vans but I felt like I hade zero boardfeel, but people way better than me love them! So might just be me.

Just break them in and get used to them. Need more than just a session or two to adjust.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Thebird on September 30, 2022, 06:51:03 AM
Skating the KSLs right now and have two more pairs waiting.  I love them.  My foot is a little wider, and they fit perfectly.  They are pretty durable as well. 
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FROTHY on September 30, 2022, 07:27:05 AM
I am on my 7th pair of tyshawns. Hands down my favorite cupsole. I also like the tiago 1010’s. I’ve had 2 pairs of those. Both shoes have been very durable for me.

It’s picky, but I don’t like the look-down-factor (LDF) on the Tyshawns… kinda stubby looking
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: oyolar on September 30, 2022, 09:24:56 AM
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Fastbreaks and dunks are the only decent cupsoles made for skating these days IMO, i havent tried those adidas forums, but they look like they would be good too. To be fair, i havent tried any of the DC's, but im a high top guy and they look WAY too bulky anyway.

TBH if you're looking for cupsoles, look at non skate shoe brands and buy some superglue. It's fun finding old/used stuff and skating in it (if it looks like it will skate well). You might be surprised how good some non skate shoes are to skate. Reebok and Asics both make shoes i've really enjoyed skating in.
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Hard disagree- Fastbreaks are known for not being durable and at least for me Dunks weren't anything special. Good grip but I felt worse board feel than Jordans and don't like the extra bulk in the heel area. The heel pods on the low are worst. There are so many less bulky cups that have just as good build quality and have advanced in the last 15 years that it's kinda bold to say they're the only decent cups. The fact that they're annoying to get creates a fake nostalgia and leads us to believe they're better than they really are. Not bad by any means, but this thread demonstrates that it's easy to find a great cup that fits your foot shape.

Is anyone skating the KSL anymore? I haven't seen them talked about much lately. Those and Slip Cups do interest me a bit.

I love my Wino Slip Cups. I've got two on ice. I basically only skate cupsoles, but I don't like bulky uppers too much so the Slim Cups are great for me. I've got a pair of AVE Pros too, which I like and have a few Ellington Li-Nings that I'm interested in trying.

I also have a pair of old Graving Viking lows and highs that I'm eventually going to skate for fun.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: typeischeap on September 30, 2022, 09:30:28 AM
Skating the KSLs right now and have two more pairs waiting.  I love them.  My foot is a little wider, and they fit perfectly.  They are pretty durable as well.

I think this is the key for KSLs...I like mine for chilling but not my favorite skate shoes since my foot feels like it's swimming in the toe box. Since the laces start way up the shoe you can't even cinch them up effectively. Wide feet probably love them.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: gsosa on September 30, 2022, 09:50:39 AM
As a huge cupsole guy (been skating cupsoles only for like 8 years) I must say DC makes top notch cupsoles. I do like the sort of retro-modern versions (Williams Slim, Legacy Slims, Kalis S etc.) They look a bit thicker but they have great boardfeel and break in super quick while still offering really good support.

Lakai cupsoles are good but they aren't very durable.

éS makes really good shit but I feel dont last as long as DCs.

Vans makes good cupsoles not gonna lie, I had the Ultrarange Pros and they were beast and the Kyle Walker 2s, I know not many peoples cup of tea, but holy shir they were so good
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Dwyck on September 30, 2022, 09:53:39 AM
I have Telfords and KSLs in rotation. The Telfords are real thin, with a swapped insole they fit in with my LRABs. The KSLs are a true cup; sturdy and cushy. No super crazy about the board feel but there's a time and a place you know
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: IpathCats on September 30, 2022, 10:16:35 AM
I have Telfords and KSLs in rotation. The Telfords are real thin, with a swapped insole they fit in with my LRABs. The KSLs are a true cup; sturdy and cushy. No super crazy about the board feel but there's a time and a place you know

Telford re issue was such a letdown for me. same with the trudger. I really liked how the trudger fit too, but that flimsy xlk sole just aint cutting it. I havent tried the KSLs, they look pretty legit but i have never fit into emericas well and i dont really skate lows much.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 30, 2022, 10:38:01 AM
I am a bit concerned about the KSL after reading the Wear Tested review and plenty of other reviews on here about the lack of board feel. It sorta reminds of the React insoles in the Bruins- I hated those things. Just too much sponge. Then in the Shoes You're Wearing Thread I saw someone rip the lace eyelets off lacing them. I saw this happen on both shoes on a dude at the skatepark. He was less than stoked about the quality and feel of the shoe and was thinking about retiring them early.

At the same time they look solid and G6 generally gets really positive feedback. Great Dunk-alike in terms of look.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: twic3 on September 30, 2022, 10:49:50 AM
At first I was gonna come in here and say its hard to justify buying Telfords or KSL full price when AJ1 lows are $20 more on ebay...

But $50 is a justifiable price
https://www.tillys.com/product/emerica-ksl-g6-mens-shoes/427706150.html?dwvar_427706150_color=150&dwvar_427706150_size=S8&quantity=1
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on September 30, 2022, 10:56:07 AM
Board feel is fine with the KSLs once they break in. And not spongy at all like the bruins. As for eyelets, mine stayed in (unlike my GT Blazers where I popped one second wear while lacing up during a session); that's just hit or miss QC.

They KSL eyestays will start to come loose (stiches pop) *just from lacing* this happened on both shoes, on the outside, and I don't have a mad switch game), Crazy Glue required prior to wearing....

They're a very no-nonsense cupsole...I only switched off them for the 808 (fail) and would have nabbed the blk gum if I haven't been itching for mid.

RE: 808 - I keep wearing them as my hit the store, take out the trash errand shoes...and they still make every other shoe I own, skate or otherwise, like flimsy pieces of shit...the 808 is such a beast of a sneaker...I might dip on a 10.5 and return if it's a hot mess.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: lemonchicken91 on September 30, 2022, 11:12:37 AM
how are the newer telefords w the updated sole?

was looking at these modelo (manchild) colorway , toe looks narrow might go 10
https://www.tactics.com/lakai/telford-low-skate-shoes/manch-navy-white-suede
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Chris on September 30, 2022, 11:15:03 AM
Vans Crockett (High) is an official rec from me.

probs been said already.

My first cupsole maybe ever and the transition was easy as a shit. From last resort VM001 high mind you
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: IpathCats on September 30, 2022, 11:23:42 AM
how are the newer telefords w the updated sole?

was looking at these modelo (manchild) colorway , toe looks narrow might go 10
https://www.tactics.com/lakai/telford-low-skate-shoes/manch-navy-white-suede

If you like vulcs, youll probably like it.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: huggernaut on September 30, 2022, 12:48:47 PM

RE: 808 - I keep wearing them as my hit the store, take out the trash errand shoes...and they still make every other shoe I own, skate or otherwise, like flimsy pieces of shit...the 808 is such a beast of a sneaker...I might dip on a 10.5 and return if it's a hot mess.

So tempted to try them, but I’m hooked on skating $30 sole tech clearance shoes.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: j....soy..... on September 30, 2022, 01:02:08 PM
The 808 is here to stay so you can prolly take your time.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: theloniousmonk on September 30, 2022, 05:12:10 PM
I am a bit concerned about the KSL after reading the Wear Tested review and plenty of other reviews on here about the lack of board feel. It sorta reminds of the React insoles in the Bruins- I hated those things. Just too much sponge. Then in the Shoes You're Wearing Thread I saw someone rip the lace eyelets off lacing them. I saw this happen on both shoes on a dude at the skatepark. He was less than stoked about the quality and feel of the shoe and was thinking about retiring them early.

At the same time they look solid and G6 generally gets really positive feedback. Great Dunk-alike in terms of look.
After skating the 1010s, the ksl have great board feel. They aren’t Reynolds good, not as form fitting imo, but they do what emerica does very well.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: LebowskisRug on September 30, 2022, 05:57:48 PM
Interestingly I have a friend that just skated the G6 Reynolds and described the board feel as pretty bad. Just a brick of a shoe with lots of foam.

In the Tiago I can articulate my forefoot really well. The shape of the cut lines on the sole seems to work well. The rear is definitely stiffer and took a while to get used to the sensation. I've got a longer index toe that big toe and wide feet and the toebox seems to work. The KSL toe also looks like it would. No locals seem to stock it but I wish I could try on. Ordering just to return is kinda shitty behavior and I'm trying to get away from having everything delivered/tons of emissions for my bullshit.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: huggernaut on September 30, 2022, 06:19:54 PM
Interestingly I have a friend that just skated the G6 Reynolds and described the board feel as pretty bad. Just a brick of a shoe with lots of foam.

In the Tiago I can articulate my forefoot really well. The shape of the cut lines on the sole seems to work well. The rear is definitely stiffer and took a while to get used to the sensation. I've got a longer index toe that big toe and wide feet and the toebox seems to work. The KSL toe also looks like it would. No locals seem to stock it but I wish I could try on. Ordering just to return is kinda shitty behavior and I'm trying to get away from having everything delivered/tons of emissions for my bullshit.

Man, when I tried the 1010s one side felt like the plasticy reinforcement just dug into the side of my foot so badly and the other not at all. Felt like maybe just a qc thing, and to your point, I’d love to try another but I’m not trying to ship another pair just to return them again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: theloniousmonk on September 30, 2022, 08:23:17 PM
Interestingly I have a friend that just skated the G6 Reynolds and described the board feel as pretty bad. Just a brick of a shoe with lots of foam.

In the Tiago I can articulate my forefoot really well. The shape of the cut lines on the sole seems to work well. The rear is definitely stiffer and took a while to get used to the sensation. I've got a longer index toe that big toe and wide feet and the toebox seems to work. The KSL toe also looks like it would. No locals seem to stock it but I wish I could try on. Ordering just to return is kinda shitty behavior and I'm trying to get away from having everything delivered/tons of emissions for my bullshit.
I agree that the shape of the sole is pretty good I. The 1010s. I have been kind of hurt in the foot the whole year and this shoe is pretty good for me for skating and just walking etc. I have been skating the ksl for the past two weeks though and just wearing the tiagos around and I’m lurking how the Ksl feels so much thinner than the tiagos for flip tricks.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on October 01, 2022, 05:58:01 PM
Just received and tried on the Tiago 1010s. They're bizarrely narrow and long with a rectangular-shaped toe that doesn't resemble a human foot (in my harsh opinion). I don't usually run into this problem. I wear vans, adidas, dc, LRAB, and they all fit fine. Unfortunate, but I had my doubts looking at photos of the shoe. I figured they'd have a slightly more ergonomic shape in real life. Oh well, still managing not to have ever skated NBs somehow, even though I'm a big cupsole guy.

At least I get to shop around for some other cupsoles. I'm healing from a surgery, so this is an online mission to get some kicks for my return.

Yeah once you get past that outsole shape, you are left with a pretty narrow square'd style (like the westgates/other models\

Wish I had watched this prior: https://youtu.be/Pk571nhFBXs?t=74

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https://youtu.be/Pk571nhFBXs
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: badmanganjaspliff on October 02, 2022, 04:21:42 AM

éS makes really good shit but I feel dont last as long as DCs.

Had a pair of Es symbols and was very unhappy… the tongue came unstitched after a couple of weeks. May have just got unlucky but it’s put me off buying another pair of Es which is a shame as i actually like a lot of their shoe designs, especially the Og reissues.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Lukabrazi on October 02, 2022, 07:59:02 AM
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Interestingly I have a friend that just skated the G6 Reynolds and described the board feel as pretty bad. Just a brick of a shoe with lots of foam.

In the Tiago I can articulate my forefoot really well. The shape of the cut lines on the sole seems to work well. The rear is definitely stiffer and took a while to get used to the sensation. I've got a longer index toe that big toe and wide feet and the toebox seems to work. The KSL toe also looks like it would. No locals seem to stock it but I wish I could try on. Ordering just to return is kinda shitty behavior and I'm trying to get away from having everything delivered/tons of emissions for my bullshit.
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Man, when I tried the 1010s one side felt like the plasticy reinforcement just dug into the side of my foot so badly and the other not at all. Felt like maybe just a qc thing, and to your point, I’d love to try another but I’m not trying to ship another pair just to return them again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What color way was this?  I just had to return a pair of all black ones with white soles because of some plastic thing digging into my foot from the tongue on the left shoe. I’ve had two pairs before this so it was definitely some sort of manufactures defect .
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: toe_knee on October 02, 2022, 08:15:18 AM
On my third pair of Lynx zero jahmir brown editions, they have the super suede and tongue centering straps, which are missing on the other colors and stuff
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Knee Pain on October 02, 2022, 08:50:25 AM
I’ve been having some foot pain issues, think I’m going to have to leave the vulcs behind and get some cupsoles.

The 1010 and the 440 are the most appealing to me so far. Hopefully find a pair on sale
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: huggernaut on October 02, 2022, 09:01:21 AM
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Interestingly I have a friend that just skated the G6 Reynolds and described the board feel as pretty bad. Just a brick of a shoe with lots of foam.

In the Tiago I can articulate my forefoot really well. The shape of the cut lines on the sole seems to work well. The rear is definitely stiffer and took a while to get used to the sensation. I've got a longer index toe that big toe and wide feet and the toebox seems to work. The KSL toe also looks like it would. No locals seem to stock it but I wish I could try on. Ordering just to return is kinda shitty behavior and I'm trying to get away from having everything delivered/tons of emissions for my bullshit.
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Man, when I tried the 1010s one side felt like the plasticy reinforcement just dug into the side of my foot so badly and the other not at all. Felt like maybe just a qc thing, and to your point, I’d love to try another but I’m not trying to ship another pair just to return them again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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What color way was this?  I just had to return a pair of all black ones with white soles because of some plastic thing digging into my foot from the tongue on the left shoe. I’ve had two pairs before this so it was definitely some sort of manufactures defect .

Black/white…
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Space Cowboy on October 02, 2022, 09:12:17 AM
Vans Crockett Highs have been my favorite shoes for a while now, huge amount of cushion and great board feel.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FROTHY on October 02, 2022, 03:44:39 PM
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Interestingly I have a friend that just skated the G6 Reynolds and described the board feel as pretty bad. Just a brick of a shoe with lots of foam.

In the Tiago I can articulate my forefoot really well. The shape of the cut lines on the sole seems to work well. The rear is definitely stiffer and took a while to get used to the sensation. I've got a longer index toe that big toe and wide feet and the toebox seems to work. The KSL toe also looks like it would. No locals seem to stock it but I wish I could try on. Ordering just to return is kinda shitty behavior and I'm trying to get away from having everything delivered/tons of emissions for my bullshit.
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Man, when I tried the 1010s one side felt like the plasticy reinforcement just dug into the side of my foot so badly and the other not at all. Felt like maybe just a qc thing, and to your point, I’d love to try another but I’m not trying to ship another pair just to return them again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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What color way was this?  I just had to return a pair of all black ones with white soles because of some plastic thing digging into my foot from the tongue on the left shoe. I’ve had two pairs before this so it was definitely some sort of manufactures defect .
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Black/white…
I just tried on the 1010s in black and white and felt like I was standing on parts of the outsole, particularly the little contrast-colored wavey part of the cupsole. Kinda baffled how bad they felt, and I tried two sizes.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on October 03, 2022, 07:34:21 AM
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Interestingly I have a friend that just skated the G6 Reynolds and described the board feel as pretty bad. Just a brick of a shoe with lots of foam.

In the Tiago I can articulate my forefoot really well. The shape of the cut lines on the sole seems to work well. The rear is definitely stiffer and took a while to get used to the sensation. I've got a longer index toe that big toe and wide feet and the toebox seems to work. The KSL toe also looks like it would. No locals seem to stock it but I wish I could try on. Ordering just to return is kinda shitty behavior and I'm trying to get away from having everything delivered/tons of emissions for my bullshit.
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Man, when I tried the 1010s one side felt like the plasticy reinforcement just dug into the side of my foot so badly and the other not at all. Felt like maybe just a qc thing, and to your point, I’d love to try another but I’m not trying to ship another pair just to return them again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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What color way was this?  I just had to return a pair of all black ones with white soles because of some plastic thing digging into my foot from the tongue on the left shoe. I’ve had two pairs before this so it was definitely some sort of manufactures defect .
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Black/white…
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I just tried on the 1010s in black and white and felt like I was standing on parts of the outsole, particularly the little contrast-colored wavey part of the cupsole. Kinda baffled how bad they felt, and I tried two sizes.

Yeah I really don't like the boardfeel of 1010s. Tried to really like them, the heel grip was great, but nah.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Knee Pain on October 03, 2022, 08:39:04 AM
Any opinions good or bad, on the Adidas copa nationale?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Turtle Boy on October 03, 2022, 08:51:53 AM
Any opinions good or bad, on the Adidas copa nationale?
Loved them.
The fit is really good, with amazing heel lock.
The sole is really durable with a more than decent boardfeel, even if it's not the grippiest sole.
The suede on mine was really durable.
One of my favourite shoes ever.
It's like a more structured Nike sb gato.
I've be looking for them but most colorways are REALLY bad and the stiching on the new ones seems way less durable than the first one.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: l1ll1ll1 on October 03, 2022, 11:43:06 AM
Any opinions good or bad, on the Adidas copa nationale?

I really didn't like them, at all. But maybe that has something to do with my somewhat smaller foot. Shoes that fit me best are Nikes (especially Bruin Reacts, Blazer Mids, Dunk Highs). Cant wear all Vans I tried except Rowans. So. Theres that. They fit so horrible I just used them for walking etc. after two sessions.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: art hellman on October 03, 2022, 11:54:28 AM
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Any opinions good or bad, on the Adidas copa nationale?
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Loved them.
The fit is really good, with amazing heel lock.
The sole is really durable with a more than decent boardfeel, even if it's not the grippiest sole.
The suede on mine was really durable.
One of my favourite shoes ever.
It's like a more structured Nike sb gato.
I've be looking for them but most colorways are REALLY bad and the stiching on the new ones seems way less durable than the first one.

all of this ^^^
love my pair
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Uncle Flea on October 03, 2022, 02:01:40 PM
I may switch full time to the fast break. It's a decent shoe. I'm bummed on my slips. They aren't stretching enough to be fun.

Anyway the fast break It feels like a dunk but no one's fighting over them. I don't like looking down at the toe shape but it works.


I like to skate them untied. To me that's kinda show boaty in a good way like the next level lol. I'm such a dork.

I'ma order tomorrow maybe if they still got
I can't wait for the chukka to get back in stock at the shop.


Also I should be Bam's friend. I'd have his frickin back and I'd help him get back on his feets.

Skaters with long term helping skaters get recovery. Imagine that. Wouldn't that be a gift from "heaven".

Skaters need each other
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FROTHY on October 05, 2022, 12:35:23 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/Dr99jrH/885-D4-D74-79-A4-40-DD-84-E8-39291-FDCBCB7.jpg)

Laces literally spring untied because they are so stiff, but otherwise these feel promising. Tongue could be a little more forgiving, but I'm assuming that will work out. Feel WAY better than the 1010s!
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: huggernaut on October 05, 2022, 03:06:19 PM
Got a couple shoes in the mail today:

Emerica Gamma is less pointy than the spanky ksl g6 but still just the way it curved hit my big toe funny so it’s going back, fairly wide through the mid foot though for those that that’s a thing for.  Bummer for me as the Emerica vulcs tend to fit me pretty well. They are definitely tighter through the end of the toes compared to the slip-on cupsole which is my go to shoe right now.

eS Swift 1.5 has a nice fit throughout and quite lightweight, cool to have the hidden lace option on a shoe that can be had for $35ish on sale. Will skate them soon.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Steely Daniel on October 05, 2022, 04:35:42 PM
Got my Adidas Busenitz and Tyshawns in the mail the other day.

 The Busenitz felt kinda weird at first with the heel padding and sensual shape they have. I have super wide feet so you can see them bulge out the sides every step I take. They feel pretty good after walking around a while though. The laces they came with are too short to lace all the way to the tope eyelet though, which didn't even have a proper hole punched through the material to get the lace through. Had to do that myself and wasn't super impressed. Waiting to destroy my New Balance 306's before skating any of the Adidas.

The Tyshawns feel amazing and I like how they have 2 extra eyelets at the top that are actually reinforced too. Would have probably bought 2 pairs if they had 2 of my size in stock.

Both are pretty lame colours though. Black and white, tan and green stripes respectively. But the price was right and I surely am too old and heavy for vulcanized shoes.

Will report back after skating even though everyone already knows what these are like surely.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on October 05, 2022, 05:09:36 PM
Got my Adidas Busenitz and Tyshawns in the mail the other day.

 The Busenitz felt kinda weird at first with the heel padding and sensual shape they have. I have super wide feet so you can see them bulge out the sides every step I take. They feel pretty good after walking around a while though. The laces they came with are too short to lace all the way to the tope eyelet though, which didn't even have a proper hole punched through the material to get the lace through. Had to do that myself and wasn't super impressed. Waiting to destroy my New Balance 306's before skating any of the Adidas.

The Tyshawns feel amazing and I like how they have 2 extra eyelets at the top that are actually reinforced too. Would have probably bought 2 pairs if they had 2 of my size in stock.

Both are pretty lame colours though. Black and white, tan and green stripes respectively. But the price was right and I surely am too old and heavy for vulcanized shoes.

Will report back after skating even though everyone already knows what these are like surely.

Swaggy-fit-drip-kids might disagree, but if you plan on using the 'extra' eyelet as intended (for that snug heel lock): https://youtu.be/1jDfgKIAcgU

I'm skating the Tys and the heel lock is sooo good using the extra eyelet lockdown.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: huggernaut on October 05, 2022, 05:16:46 PM
Got my Adidas Busenitz and Tyshawns in the mail the other day.

 The Busenitz felt kinda weird at first with the heel padding and sensual shape they have. I have super wide feet so you can see them bulge out the sides every step I take. They feel pretty good after walking around a while though. The laces they came with are too short to lace all the way to the tope eyelet though, which didn't even have a proper hole punched through the material to get the lace through. Had to do that myself and wasn't super impressed. Waiting to destroy my New Balance 306's before skating any of the Adidas.

The Tyshawns feel amazing and I like how they have 2 extra eyelets at the top that are actually reinforced too. Would have probably bought 2 pairs if they had 2 of my size in stock.

Both are pretty lame colours though. Black and white, tan and green stripes respectively. But the price was right and I surely am too old and heavy for vulcanized shoes.

Will report back after skating even though everyone already knows what these are like surely.

Interesting. I always have width problems, but am super interested in the tyshawns.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Steely Daniel on October 05, 2022, 10:04:44 PM
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Got my Adidas Busenitz and Tyshawns in the mail the other day.

 The Busenitz felt kinda weird at first with the heel padding and sensual shape they have. I have super wide feet so you can see them bulge out the sides every step I take. They feel pretty good after walking around a while though. The laces they came with are too short to lace all the way to the tope eyelet though, which didn't even have a proper hole punched through the material to get the lace through. Had to do that myself and wasn't super impressed. Waiting to destroy my New Balance 306's before skating any of the Adidas.

The Tyshawns feel amazing and I like how they have 2 extra eyelets at the top that are actually reinforced too. Would have probably bought 2 pairs if they had 2 of my size in stock.

Both are pretty lame colours though. Black and white, tan and green stripes respectively. But the price was right and I surely am too old and heavy for vulcanized shoes.

Will report back after skating even though everyone already knows what these are like surely.
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Swaggy-fit-drip-kids might disagree, but if you plan on using the 'extra' eyelet as intended (for that snug heel lock): https://youtu.be/1jDfgKIAcgU

I'm skating the Tys and the heel lock is sooo good using the extra eyelet lockdown.

Always fun when you learn you've been doing something wrong your entire life. I don't usually use it to try and lock it down super tight just always feels better lacing all the way up to me. I will have to try that now though.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: nitro89 on October 06, 2022, 12:26:09 AM
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Got my Adidas Busenitz and Tyshawns in the mail the other day.

 The Busenitz felt kinda weird at first with the heel padding and sensual shape they have. I have super wide feet so you can see them bulge out the sides every step I take. They feel pretty good after walking around a while though. The laces they came with are too short to lace all the way to the tope eyelet though, which didn't even have a proper hole punched through the material to get the lace through. Had to do that myself and wasn't super impressed. Waiting to destroy my New Balance 306's before skating any of the Adidas.

The Tyshawns feel amazing and I like how they have 2 extra eyelets at the top that are actually reinforced too. Would have probably bought 2 pairs if they had 2 of my size in stock.

Both are pretty lame colours though. Black and white, tan and green stripes respectively. But the price was right and I surely am too old and heavy for vulcanized shoes.

Will report back after skating even though everyone already knows what these are like surely.
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Swaggy-fit-drip-kids might disagree, but if you plan on using the 'extra' eyelet as intended (for that snug heel lock): https://youtu.be/1jDfgKIAcgU

I'm skating the Tys and the heel lock is sooo good using the extra eyelet lockdown.
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Always fun when you learn you've been doing something wrong your entire life. I don't usually use it to try and lock it down super tight just always feels better lacing all the way up to me. I will have to try that now though.

I've been lacing up like this for a few years now since a friend who runs showed me that's how they stop heel slip and keep the shoe snug so they don't rub and get blisters etc.. was a full on lightbulb moment.

recommend this technique to anyone who's unsure to try it for themselves.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: skatebruh on October 06, 2022, 09:49:46 AM
This shoelace thing has changed my life. Heel is locked down like I'm wearing a snowboard boot.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: oyolar on October 06, 2022, 10:36:23 AM
That is a very fun technique and I’m glad I learned it, even if I never use it.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on October 06, 2022, 12:44:05 PM
You never know when it might come in handy; you buy a shoe that’s got weird sizing like maybe a new balance (if they ever decide to add the extra eyelet) where the shoe runs may be a little big and get a little bit of heel slip this will totally lock it down…would have changed the game on the 1010s for me.

Also long laces are there for a reason on shoes like this…
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: j....soy..... on October 06, 2022, 10:30:19 PM
My ankles are shit so I tighten my laces….seems like a good idea but stresses me out to have shit tied up like that.  The moment I’m done skating I untie my shoes because I’m suffocating them…
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fs1/2cab on October 07, 2022, 02:11:55 AM
My ankles are shit so I tighten my laces….seems like a good idea but stresses me out to have shit tied up like that.  The moment I’m done skating I untie my shoes because I’m suffocating them…

This. And a quarter of the session is tying and untying laces because they don't reel right..
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Mcidraque on October 08, 2022, 05:52:32 AM
Vans Crockett Highs have been my favorite shoes for a while now, huge amount of cushion and great board feel.

been my go to shoe for the past two and something years now. Wish they release more colorways of it.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Joe Davola on October 08, 2022, 07:54:01 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/Dr99jrH/885-D4-D74-79-A4-40-DD-84-E8-39291-FDCBCB7.jpg)

Laces literally spring untied because they are so stiff, but otherwise these feel promising. Tongue could be a little more forgiving, but I'm assuming that will work out. Feel WAY better than the 1010s!
Full lace protection?? WTF!? Gimmie!
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Sundaynuggets on October 08, 2022, 09:26:37 PM
Anyone try the DC metric? Curious about the Hongo bros one and how they feel compared to something like a Numeric 1010
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: LebowskisRug on October 09, 2022, 07:54:03 AM
Many questions pals:

I am riding 440 and 1010. I am considering the following and looking for input relative to these:

-Fastbreak Pro Suede. I've heard they're not durable, flimsy, tried on some nylon ones and they fit well.
-Adidas Samba ADV. I can't actually find these in most colors I would want, which is weird.
-Busenitz Vintage. Also hard to find but I like the tongue and rear better.
-Gazelle ADV. I know they're a vulc but I like the look and they felt decent in hand.
-Copa
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Thebird on February 26, 2023, 08:27:23 PM
Anybody have any feedback on the Lakai Trudger?  How is the fit?  It looks a little wider than the other Lakai cups.  Do they hold up well?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: rocklobster on February 26, 2023, 08:42:06 PM
Can't mention the Swift 1.5 enough, great sole and outsole, hidden lace loops too. Colorways are a little boring, and they regularly go on sale on the eS website. I'm on my 2nd pair in a row, first time I've stuck to the same shoe in a few years.

Wish they still made the Accel Everstitch Plus, has the important technology I like in a shoe without being overly puffy. Especially like the velco strap to get the right tightness especially as the shoe breaks in and you don't want to tighten up the laces too much and have them flopping all over.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Quique on February 26, 2023, 09:33:38 PM
Many questions pals:

I am riding 440 and 1010. I am considering the following and looking for input relative to these:

-Fastbreak Pro Suede. I've heard they're not durable, flimsy, tried on some nylon ones and they fit well.
-Adidas Samba ADV. I can't actually find these in most colors I would want, which is weird.
-Busenitz Vintage. Also hard to find but I like the tongue and rear better.
-Gazelle ADV. I know they're a vulc but I like the look and they felt decent in hand.
-Copa

I only had the 1010, i think the busenitz are similar in how the foot sits, high heel to drop toe. I didn't like skating them.
Copas i agree with what turtle boy wrote above, also one of the only shoes I don't need to change insoles, has the perfect arch support, sambas has a nice one too. Both are wide on the toebox. I can see why suciu was skating copas exclusively for a while.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 26, 2023, 10:44:32 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/Dr99jrH/885-D4-D74-79-A4-40-DD-84-E8-39291-FDCBCB7.jpg)

Laces literally spring untied because they are so stiff, but otherwise these feel promising. Tongue could be a little more forgiving, but I'm assuming that will work out. Feel WAY better than the 1010s!

Do they run narrow? I nabbed a pair of the Puig indoors and fuuuuu they are narrow and pointy (yet thin); like an ES style pointy...got them for chillers...can't even use them for that...

My laces on my GT blazer lows come undone every 5min, not kidding...I've yet to swap them out as I keep saying fuck that shoe and wearing something else.

I've got a cupsole coming that I never thought I'd skate (tried it on and was kind of blown away at the fit and comfort level...) I'll report back; I've wide feet and these way better than expected.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: whale on February 27, 2023, 12:44:27 AM
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(https://i.ibb.co/Dr99jrH/885-D4-D74-79-A4-40-DD-84-E8-39291-FDCBCB7.jpg)

Laces literally spring untied because they are so stiff, but otherwise these feel promising. Tongue could be a little more forgiving, but I'm assuming that will work out. Feel WAY better than the 1010s!
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Do they run narrow? I nabbed a pair of the Puig indoors and fuuuuu they are narrow and pointy (yet thin); like an ES style pointy...got them for chillers...can't even use them for that...

My laces on my GT blazer lows come undone every 5min, not kidding...I've yet to swap them out as I keep saying fuck that shoe and wearing something else.

I've got a cupsole coming that I never thought I'd skate (tried it on and was kind of blown away at the fit and comfort level...) I'll report back; I've wide feet and these way better than expected.
Not narrow at all. Granted my pair is half a size too big so I only use them as chillers. Really want to get a pair for skating but I need to go through my other shoes first.
I fucking suck at tying laces for some reason, they always come untied, especially on the Puig.
Started adding a small drop of crazy glue on the knot, just enough to hold it but I can yank it easily loose if I need to tighten the laces.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: radcunt on February 27, 2023, 04:58:52 AM
I could never do standard Businitz again, like walking in heels. 


I want some shoes with good cushioning and support, the Vans skate vulcs just ain't cutting it. 


I'm looking at the Tyshawns & Noras as they're on sale a bit, but have always wanted to try the Campus ADVs.  I've got kind of a skinny, wide foot.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: devourthehours on February 27, 2023, 07:01:40 AM
Anybody have any feedback on the Lakai Trudger?  How is the fit?  It looks a little wider than the other Lakai cups.  Do they hold up well?

Skated these for a bit. They started awesome but the high top area got so floppy I ended up retiring them. They really didn't have much structure.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Mean salto on February 27, 2023, 07:16:01 AM
I could never do standard Businitz again, like walking in heels. 


I want some shoes with good cushioning and support, the Vans skate vulcs just ain't cutting it. 


I'm looking at the Tyshawns & Noras as they're on sale a bit, but have always wanted to try the Campus ADVs.  I've got kind of a skinny, wide foot.
He Nora's look like a pretty similar construction to og busenitz. https://www.weartested.com/adidas-nora/
 I think the tyshawns and campus have better cushion. Even the Lucas indoors look to have better cushion but still heel looks kinda high
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: S. on February 27, 2023, 08:02:10 AM
I could never do standard Businitz again, like walking in heels. 


I want some shoes with good cushioning and support, the Vans skate vulcs just ain't cutting it. 


I'm looking at the Tyshawns & Noras as they're on sale a bit, but have always wanted to try the Campus ADVs.  I've got kind of a skinny, wide foot.

Sounds like the campus would work well for you. I am skating them right now. I have wide and fat feet. They are not exactly wide, but you can make them work with a wider foot. I like the lacing of the shoe. I think that‘s reason it works well for oddly shaped feet. It is a very solid and durable shoe overall. I would say the sole of the shoe is on the thinner side for a vulc shoe, but will still give you some cushioning.
I have skated the tyshawn mids as well. They have a thicker sole and more arch support. The width is similar to the campus, maybe a bit more narrow. If you have wide feet don‘t get the tyshawn lows. They are very narrow.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 27, 2023, 09:09:39 AM
I could never do standard Businitz again, like walking in heels. 


I want some shoes with good cushioning and support, the Vans skate vulcs just ain't cutting it. 


I'm looking at the Tyshawns & Noras as they're on sale a bit, but have always wanted to try the Campus ADVs.  I've got kind of a skinny, wide foot.

I, too, will never touch the booz'n'titz again, can't stand the heel lift.\\

Still skate my Mid Tyshawns, great shoe, if a bit chunky (I don't find Adidas in general very grippy unless it's their gum, which mai thais aren't).

Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on February 27, 2023, 10:46:17 AM
808 for life
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ok on February 27, 2023, 12:42:32 PM
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I could never do standard Businitz again, like walking in heels. 


I want some shoes with good cushioning and support, the Vans skate vulcs just ain't cutting it. 


I'm looking at the Tyshawns & Noras as they're on sale a bit, but have always wanted to try the Campus ADVs.  I've got kind of a skinny, wide foot.
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Sounds like the campus would work well for you. I am skating them right now. I have wide and fat feet. They are not exactly wide, but you can make them work with a wider foot. I like the lacing of the shoe. I think that‘s reason it works well for oddly shaped feet. It is a very solid and durable shoe overall. I would say the sole of the shoe is on the thinner side for a vulc shoe, but will still give you some cushioning.
I have skated the tyshawn mids as well. They have a thicker sole and more arch support. The width is similar to the campus, maybe a bit more narrow. If you have wide feet don‘t get the tyshawn lows. They are very narrow.

Thanks for the part on the lows being more narrow than the mids.
I like the look of the lows more, and really enjoyed the mids I had, thought it was a real decent shoe. I’m not sure why I only got one pair, other than I bought some ave pros around the same time and kinda went with those for a few pairs. But yeah mids good, but close to being too narrow
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: radcunt on February 27, 2023, 07:58:57 PM
Thanks for the feedback. Re job I'll try on some campus and ty mids.





Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: GBLange on February 27, 2023, 11:50:28 PM
Asics Vic NBD

(https://i.ibb.co/fXzKSDS/1201-A726-200-SR-RT-GLB.webp) (https://ibb.co/fXzKSDS)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Steely Daniel on February 28, 2023, 01:34:51 AM
I'd fuck with those Asics. The gum around the heel is kind of strange though.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Skatebeard on February 28, 2023, 01:43:08 AM
I can't recommend Tyshawn mids highly enough if you have a narrow foot, I'm on my 8th or 9th pair. I skate flatground most days and get about 3 months out of them with a bit of shoe-goo maintenance towards the end.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Steely Daniel on February 28, 2023, 01:53:08 AM
Even with a moderately wide foot, the Ty mids are a godsend. I'd love to have 8-9 more pairs.  They're lasting through fall/winter easily with some goo but I also haven't been able to skate a lot lately due to the weather mostly. Unfortunately, I have the Busenitz up next and they are a little too dainty for me. They're feeling better as I break them in walking around a bit, but the Tyshawns felt good to go right out of the box for me.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: radcunt on February 28, 2023, 03:10:40 AM
How do NBs compare to Adidas?  Is there a consensus on the best cupsole brand?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: chronicbackpain on February 28, 2023, 08:07:03 AM
Even with a moderately wide foot, the Ty mids are a godsend. I'd love to have 8-9 more pairs.  They're lasting through fall/winter easily with some goo but I also haven't been able to skate a lot lately due to the weather mostly. Unfortunately, I have the Busenitz up next and they are a little too dainty for me. They're feeling better as I break them in walking around a bit, but the Tyshawns felt good to go right out of the box for me.
TTS with thin [Stance] socks works perfectly for me. They felt too tight but broke in by the second or third time, wearing them around the house. I originally went a half size up and those were also tight. Although they loosened up after wearing them around the house, I couldn’t deal with the heel slip.

After buying an excessive amount of shoes, to find one that supports my narrow heel and fat toes, I’m sticking with the 1010 in TTS with Gildan/Hanes socks. It’s interesting to see how my pinky toes are red/swollen after a couple hours from eS cupsoles, but pink/swollen*0.5 after a session in 1010s.

How do NBs compare to Adidas?  Is there a consensus on the best cupsole brand?
The construction on 1010 and 808 shoes just feel superior when holding it in hand, as opposed to a pair of Tyshawns or that weird Blondey (indoor soccer) shoe. Busenitz flicks better than Tyshawns for me, but I’m not a fan of the heel like the majority of people on this board. NB are tanks made of high-quality materials while Adidas is lower-quality (than NB), but better for flip tricks. NB is heavier and more comfortable, while Adidas is lighter/pointier. 1010s hurt my feet the least but I have to change my foot positions for setting up tricks, since I’m going from lighter/pointier to heavier/wider.

I’m curious about the Forum Lows.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 28, 2023, 11:49:26 AM
I'm feeling these:
https://www.lakai.com/collections/all/products/mod-navy-suede-ms1230266b00

Look wide enough as well...bit heavy on the AVEs look tho.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: gsosa on February 28, 2023, 12:31:26 PM
How do NBs compare to Adidas?  Is there a consensus on the best cupsole brand?
Yeah, its DC
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 28, 2023, 01:09:01 PM
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How do NBs compare to Adidas?  Is there a consensus on the best cupsole brand?
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Yeah, its DC

As for NB/Adi it depends on the shoe...the Tyshawn and Tiago shoes are the best from each brand imo.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: TwisT on February 28, 2023, 01:12:37 PM
Asics Vic NBD

(https://i.ibb.co/fXzKSDS/1201-A726-200-SR-RT-GLB.webp) (https://ibb.co/fXzKSDS)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alT1o-gKp6o

Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 28, 2023, 03:44:18 PM
FFS show some skating....and no one ollie doesn't count...fire that trying to be artsy intern who put that trash together.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on February 28, 2023, 11:49:46 PM
I'm feeling these:
https://www.lakai.com/collections/all/products/mod-navy-suede-ms1230266b00

Look wide enough as well...bit heavy on the AVEs look tho.
Those are so damn weird looking and idk if I like them or hate then but sure I appreciate the design risk taken in there, we need more shoes like that in skateboarding. 
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: BL0B on March 01, 2023, 01:40:12 AM
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I'm feeling these:
https://www.lakai.com/collections/all/products/mod-navy-suede-ms1230266b00

Look wide enough as well...bit heavy on the AVEs look tho.
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Those are so damn weird looking and idk if I like them or hate then but sure I appreciate the design risk taken in there, we need more shoes like that in skateboarding. 




you guys wanna go bowling after we skate?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: intendedreceivers on March 01, 2023, 04:14:06 AM
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I’m curious about the Forum Lows.

I recently nabbed a pair of Forum ADVs (first dip into big, bulky court shoe cupsoles), and they’re easily the most supportive, comfortable skate shoe in my closet. Boardfeel is limited due to the thickness of the rubber, and there’s enough room inside for a cushy insole if that’s your thing. To me they don’t feel as heavy as their bulk would suggest, but they’re tanks. Very solid. I’m not sure if the fit is wide wide, but I have a little room to move in there (I think I’m pretty average width).
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: chris. on March 01, 2023, 04:48:00 AM
If you’re patient with a thicker, court style cupsole then you will be greatly rewarded. Nothing like them once they’re broken in.

I found some Adidas Top Tens for $25 the other day, I’m stoked to break them in.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: chronicbackpain on March 01, 2023, 05:58:59 AM
^^
Thanks for the input. I’ll pick up a pair of Forum Lows before getting another pair of 1010s so I can compare durability.

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I'm feeling these:
https://www.lakai.com/collections/all/products/mod-navy-suede-ms1230266b00

Look wide enough as well...bit heavy on the AVEs look tho.
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Those are so damn weird looking and idk if I like them or hate then but sure I appreciate the design risk taken in there, we need more shoes like that in skateboarding. 
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you guys wanna go bowling after we skate?
The top view is the grossest view, but I dig how the design puts functionality/durability over looks. Plus, it has lace protection.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: BL0B on March 01, 2023, 01:15:45 PM
^^
Thanks for the input. I’ll pick up a pair of Forum Lows before getting another pair of 1010s so I can compare durability.

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I'm feeling these:
https://www.lakai.com/collections/all/products/mod-navy-suede-ms1230266b00

Look wide enough as well...bit heavy on the AVEs look tho.
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Those are so damn weird looking and idk if I like them or hate then but sure I appreciate the design risk taken in there, we need more shoes like that in skateboarding. 
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you guys wanna go bowling after we skate?

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The top view is the grossest view, but I dig how the design puts functionality/durability over looks. Plus, it has lace protection.

yeah, the tech and side views are intriguing.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: blahblah999 on March 01, 2023, 01:50:23 PM
The Lakai Mods do look interesting. I would be worried they might pinch weird around the toes though. That's the biggest problem I have with so many shoes that are out right now. So many of them are made for skinny twig feet or just rub or pinch across the foot in some way that makes them very uncomfortable for me. Sizing up doesn't always work either, because then I run into other problems like heel slip.

I'm typically not a fan of Vans at all based on past experiences but I've reached the point where I'm willing to try anything so I have a pair of the BMX waffle cup models on the way to try. Also going to try a vulc Emerica mid top and the 'eS Stylus mids along with Tyshawns and some DC Metrics. I'll probably end up returning most of these but need to be able to try them on at home and walk around for a bit with them.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: intendedreceivers on March 01, 2023, 02:13:28 PM
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Thanks for the input. I’ll pick up a pair of Forum Lows before getting another pair of 1010s so I can compare durability.

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I'm feeling these:
https://www.lakai.com/collections/all/products/mod-navy-suede-ms1230266b00

Look wide enough as well...bit heavy on the AVEs look tho.
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Those are so damn weird looking and idk if I like them or hate then but sure I appreciate the design risk taken in there, we need more shoes like that in skateboarding. 
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you guys wanna go bowling after we skate?
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The top view is the grossest view, but I dig how the design puts functionality/durability over looks. Plus, it has lace protection.

For reference, right is a Superstar ADV (which I consider to be big and hefty in its own right), and you can see how the Forum ADV kinda dwarfs it in terms of the padding around the ankle and the width of the outsole heel.

(https://i.ibb.co/7b0QMNx/A2181-FBD-31-B3-4225-9053-B5-ABE7-F8813-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7b0QMNx)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: blahblah999 on March 01, 2023, 02:33:03 PM

For reference, right is a Superstar ADV (which I consider to be big and hefty in its own right), and you can see how the Forum ADV kinda dwarfs it in terms of the padding around the ankle and the width of the outsole heel.

(https://i.ibb.co/7b0QMNx/A2181-FBD-31-B3-4225-9053-B5-ABE7-F8813-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7b0QMNx)

Do the Forum ADV come with a removable insole? Or is the insole glued in?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: theloniousmonk on March 01, 2023, 05:25:20 PM
^^
Thanks for the input. I’ll pick up a pair of Forum Lows before getting another pair of 1010s so I can compare durability.



Keep us posted on the forums in relation to the 1010. I’d especially like to hear if the arch support and heel stabilization is as good as well as your general thoughts.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: intendedreceivers on March 01, 2023, 06:14:18 PM
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For reference, right is a Superstar ADV (which I consider to be big and hefty in its own right), and you can see how the Forum ADV kinda dwarfs it in terms of the padding around the ankle and the width of the outsole heel.

(https://i.ibb.co/7b0QMNx/A2181-FBD-31-B3-4225-9053-B5-ABE7-F8813-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7b0QMNx)
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Do the Forum ADV come with a removable insole? Or is the insole glued in?

Removable. I think it was essentially that same thin blue foam job with the hexagons on the bottom that seems to come with most of the models now. I use a thicker aftermarket insole with no issues, though.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FrenchSkater on March 02, 2023, 10:47:21 AM
I know it will surprise many, but I really wanted to highlight these shoes..

(I think they are much more accessible to Europeans though.)

The Cupsole models from Decathlon !

I have ridden these shoes for a long time, I can't find a better cupsole honestly.. But I haven't tried many other shoes!

They protect me enormously, a perfect fit!

Here is the video that explains the design of this shoe (English subtitles that you can activate)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4wQ0V2kcQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4wQ0V2kcQ)

I know some are probably shocked "WHAT ? DECATHLON ?" , but know that all the shoes have been created and worked on by true skaters since 2017, they have really created their brand "Decathlon skateboarding", so it's really access on the skate and apart from the sports store, and a very good value for money ! And I repeat, but I have never had such a cool and protective shoe! The shape is perfect, cupsole but not huge and very sharp, perfect for flips. I remain faithful to the real brands (Emerica always in my heart  :-*) for walking, but for skating they don't protect me enough .. !

Decathlon have also made a vulc model, very pretty and very good value for money, but, cupsole forever now !

( And see if people are interested in the video of the manufacture of the new Vulc, as you can see that everything is meticulously worked : https://youtu.be/RyRfJh30YbE (https://youtu.be/RyRfJh30YbE) )
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes
Post by: blahblah999 on March 02, 2023, 01:17:19 PM
Some of the shoes I ordered arrived today, here are my impressions:

DC Metric:

Techy shoe, made of nubuck and mesh paneling with a partially exposed foam midsole. Outsole seems solid, with a bit more density in the area I typically wear out. Tongue has some padding, but not overly puffy like a 90s/early 2000s shoe. I like the construction, especially since the mesh portions are flexible and would presumably provide more ventilation than an all suede or leather shoe. Heel area is cut a little lower than I would like.

Sizing runs small and my usual size 10 did not work. Toes are crammed toward the front of the shoe. Size 10.5 nominally fits but the there is faintest amount of heel slip and part of the inside of the shoe is rubbing on the outer edge of my foot.  Stock insoles are cheap flat green foam, nothing special. The FP 3mm Orthotic seemed to fit in this okay.

I really wanted to like this shoe, but it didn't work for me fit wise. I would still encourage other people to try it.

Emerica KSL G6:

This shoe is much more plain on the outside than the Metric. Construction doesn't seem as impressive but appears solid enough. The upper is a mix of nubuck and suede. Personally I would prefer all suede or maybe a suede/mesh combo. Heel is cut lower than I would like, but the overall fit is very good in my usual size. I would say these are true to size w/r/t my benchmark being NB and Hoka running sneakers.

Tongue is well-padded but not crazy puffy. "Spanky" logo on the tongue is just goofy. They should have just put "KSL" or something. There is plenty of volume in the shoe to accommodate a foot on the wider side of "D" width. No weird rubbing on the outside edge of the foot and zero heel slip when laced up with FP 3mm Orthotics. The stock insole is better than average with some arch support. Still kinda cheap, just like most stock insoles.

Overall I like this shoe more than I thought I would. Too bad it isn't available in a midtop, which would help the old man ankles. Still, it's good enough to make round one.


These are the other shoes I've tried so far that didn't work for me:

Nike: Ishod, Cortez, Dunks, Force 58, Blazers

NB: 440, 1010, 808

All of these shoes were either too narrow, not enough volume in the shoe, weird rubbing on outer edge of foot, or just felt like walking on bricks. If these shoes work for you, great. They did not work for me.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on March 02, 2023, 01:28:58 PM
Been eyeing the metric, how’s the width?

Fuck DC for killing off the Mike Mo; love that shoe.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: blahblah999 on March 02, 2023, 01:53:08 PM
Been eyeing the metric, how’s the width?

Fuck DC for killing off the Mike Mo; love that shoe.

The width is okay, but there was some rubbing in the forefoot on the outside edge. I also had to go half a size up. Still didn't get the fit quite right, so they don't work for me. They may work for other people. If you are able to try them on first, or try and return, that would be best. Maybe get a pair in your normal size and a pair half a size up. See if either work for you.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Hairy Ballsagna on March 03, 2023, 12:52:28 PM
I know it will surprise many, but I really wanted to highlight these shoes..

(I think they are much more accessible to Europeans though.)

The Cupsole models from Decathlon !

I have ridden these shoes for a long time, I can't find a better cupsole honestly.. But I haven't tried many other shoes!

They protect me enormously, a perfect fit!

Here is the video that explains the design of this shoe (English subtitles that you can activate)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4wQ0V2kcQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4wQ0V2kcQ)

I know some are probably shocked "WHAT ? DECATHLON ?" , but know that all the shoes have been created and worked on by true skaters since 2017, they have really created their brand "Decathlon skateboarding", so it's really access on the skate and apart from the sports store, and a very good value for money ! And I repeat, but I have never had such a cool and protective shoe! The shape is perfect, cupsole but not huge and very sharp, perfect for flips. I remain faithful to the real brands (Emerica always in my heart  :-*) for walking, but for skating they don't protect me enough .. !

Decathlon have also made a vulc model, very pretty and very good value for money, but, cupsole forever now !

( And see if people are interested in the video of the manufacture of the new Vulc, as you can see that everything is meticulously worked : https://youtu.be/RyRfJh30YbE (https://youtu.be/RyRfJh30YbE) )

Interesting. Any idea how wide the toe box is on the Vulc model?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Frank on March 03, 2023, 03:58:57 PM
the cupsole decathlons don't look bad. i looked up the german site, sadly they don't sell em here, but i guess i could order them in france.

guys i might need help with dc in terms of sizing. i'm looking at the new cafe og kalis, mantecas and lynx zeros. the shanahan metric looks pretty dope as well. might snag a pair or maybe two on sale if they got the sizes and decent c-ways.

EDIT:

actually with the kalis it doesn't matter so much, since i probably wouldn't skate them. definitely would get mantecas or lynx zero to skate in. i think mantecas were tts wereas the lynx zero used to run half a size big iirc, as did the og kalis i think. i'm like a tts us8.5, 8 in cons/lrab and in some shoes i need a 9 for width reasons mostly. just need confirmation my info is still correct. it's been a while since i asked this(i think ask about dc sizing once a year and always about the same shoes lol and then i always still miss the sales in my size).
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ok on March 03, 2023, 05:47:44 PM
My experience with dc, and es, was that with cupsoles I needed to go up a half size. Dunks I wear a 10, lots of ‘core’ brands I wear a 10.5. Dunno how helpful that is
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Frank on March 03, 2023, 06:08:53 PM
My experience with dc, and es, was that with cupsoles I needed to go up a half size. Dunks I wear a 10, lots of ‘core’ brands I wear a 10.5. Dunno how helpful that is

i take all the help, thanks
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes
Post by: blahblah999 on March 04, 2023, 11:27:19 AM
Vans BMX 114 shoes showed up today. I ordered the Port/Gum combo. The color is a little different than what it looks like on the screen, but aesthetically these are good looking shoes. Even though they are marketed as BMX shoes, they should work fine for skating.

Construction quality is definitely below some other skate shoe brands, but Vans have always been this way IME. These are not as cheap/thin/floppy as some of the classic models though. These don't look like $85 shoes to me, but then again $85 doesn't buy much these days. BITD I would have paid $40 max for a pair of shoes like this due to the construction quality. If you take out the insole, you will see loose threads held down by masking tape. If that is not cheaping out, I don't know what is.

Outsole looks like a vulcanized construction, but it's actually a thin cupsole made to look like a vulc. There really isn't any midsole cushion in these shoes at all. You will be relying on the Popcush insoles or whatever aftermarket you use.

The Popcush do not feel too bad but are fairly thick in the heel area. I don't really like that but I can see how it might help for impact protection. My flat feet and arches cannot handle any stock insole so I tried my FP 3.5mm. Fits perfectly with no issues. You can probably squeeze the thicker 5mm FP in there depending on the volume of your instep and how much forefoot room you need.

Good news is that these seem to fit TTS and there is no rubbing on the outside of the foot or small toe area like so many skate shoes. Walking around, they are decently comfortable but the forefoot area is very thin and I would expect to wear through it quite quickly compared to some other shoes. Heel lock is pretty good. These are on the lower side of a mid-top IMHO but still seems to offer some support and ankle protection. Maybe not as floppy as a pair of Half-Cabs, but not as supportive as some other mid-tops I've had.

Overall, kind of a mixed bag, but these are comfortable enough that I could probably skate in them. For that reason they are not an auto-return. Still waiting for more shoes to show up and will decide after I've tried everything.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ok on March 04, 2023, 11:47:59 AM
Giving me a run for my money on the long/extra gear posts.
I’d like you to inject more melancholy for days gone by, whilst adding more run-on sentences with a questionable, at best, deployment of commas.

But great write up
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: blahblah999 on March 04, 2023, 12:28:38 PM
Giving me a run for my money on the long/extra gear posts.
I’d like you to inject more melancholy for days gone by, whilst adding more run-on sentences with a questionable, at best, deployment of commas.

But great write up

These are message board posts, not a doctoral dissertation. There will be some spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors on occasion. I don't spend a lot of time proofreading them.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ok on March 04, 2023, 01:13:50 PM
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Giving me a run for my money on the long/extra gear posts.
I’d like you to inject more melancholy for days gone by, whilst adding more run-on sentences with a questionable, at best, deployment of commas.

But great write up
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These are message board posts, not a doctoral dissertation. There will be some spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors on occasion. I don't spend a lot of time proofreading them.

Ah.
Here’s what I meant: I, poster ‘ok’, frequently ramble, on and on, with run-on sentences, about jack in the day setups, and such.
Your post hit, for me, despite the subject matter being of no interest to me.
I am jealous of your username.
I was attempting to make a joke, that I did not flesh out in anyway, that if you were to only adopt my por grammar, I could stop posting.
I apologize to if you feel attacked, I was just goofing around, posting, hastily, from a grocery line (much like most of my slapping, just in between errands).
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: blahblah999 on March 04, 2023, 01:18:24 PM




Ah.
Here’s what I meant: I, poster ‘ok’, frequently ramble, on and on, with run-on sentences, about jack in the day setups, and such.
Your post hit, for me, despite the subject matter being of no interest to me.
I am jealous of your username.
I was attempting to make a joke, that I did not flesh out in anyway, that if you were to only adopt my por grammar, I could stop posting.
I apologize to if you feel attacked, I was just goofing around, posting, hastily, from a grocery line (much like most of my slapping, just in between errands).

Lol.
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes
Post by: blahblah999 on March 05, 2023, 09:40:34 AM
Continuing the quest for old man skate shoes...

Emerica Pillar Mids showed up today. These are a vulcanized shoe. I don't really like vulcs for skating, but nowadays many cupsoles are so thin and narrow that I am willing to try a pair of vulc mids from Sole Tech.

Construction quality is not as good as the KSL G6s IMHO. Even if I ignore the sole, the structure of the upper is floppy and less supportive than the KSLs. The ollie and toe area also feels quite thin. There is a low rubber ollie patch thing in that area held together with the foxing tape. I'm not sure how much of a difference that is going to make for some skaters with respect to durability. Typically I am used to seeing rubber ollie guard/patch things go higher and cover more area of the upper. Even the homemade ollie patches we made from bicycle inner tubes BITD were better.

Took out the insoles and looked at the inside of the shoe. These are made a little better than the average vulc but the soles are very hard and likely lack any midsole cushioning. If there is anything there, it's not very noticeable. I would be relying on my insole (FP 3.5mm Orthotics) to function as both a midsole and an insole. I'm guessing this is why the heel of the stock insole is so thick. Side note: I should probably invest in a cheap pair of digital calipers to start measuring these things.

Anyway, the shoe started off more comfortable than I expected. Heel lock was pretty good. Initially, it felt like there was enough room for my foot across the instep, forefoot, and toe area. However, once I started walking around in the shoes I could detect the liner portion rubbing against the big toe of my right foot. Not good. This happened after less than ten minutes of walking around on carpet. It might get better or it might get worse over time. Not something I want to mess with at this point though. That automatically makes the shoes a no go for me.

To summarize, here are the shoes that didn't work for me so far:

Nike: Ishod, Cortez, Dunks, Force 58, Blazers

NB: 440, 1010, 808

DC: Metric

Emerica: Pillar

These shoes are on the maybe list:

Vans: BMX 114

Emerica: KSL G6

Still waiting for these to arrive:

Vans: MC 96

Adidas: Tyshawn

'eS: Stylus Mid
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes
Post by: theloniousmonk on March 05, 2023, 06:45:40 PM
Continuing the quest for old man skate shoes...

Emerica Pillar Mids showed up today. These are a vulcanized shoe. I don't really like vulcs for skating, but nowadays many cupsoles are so thin and narrow that I am willing to try a pair of vulc mids from Sole Tech.

Construction quality is not as good as the KSL G6s IMHO. Even if I ignore the sole, the structure of the upper is floppy and less supportive than the KSLs. The ollie and toe area also feels quite thin. There is a low rubber ollie patch thing in that area held together with the foxing tape. I'm not sure how much of a difference that is going to make for some skaters with respect to durability. Typically I am used to seeing rubber ollie guard/patch things go higher and cover more area of the upper. Even the homemade ollie patches we made from bicycle inner tubes BITD were better.

Took out the insoles and looked at the inside of the shoe. These are made a little better than the average vulc but the soles are very hard and likely lack any midsole cushioning. If there is anything there, it's not very noticeable. I would be relying on my insole (FP 3.5mm Orthotics) to function as both a midsole and an insole. I'm guessing this is why the heel of the stock insole is so thick. Side note: I should probably invest in a cheap pair of digital calipers to start measuring these things.

Anyway, the shoe started off more comfortable than I expected. Heel lock was pretty good. Initially, it felt like there was enough room for my foot across the instep, forefoot, and toe area. However, once I started walking around in the shoes I could detect the liner portion rubbing against the big toe of my right foot. Not good. This happened after less than ten minutes of walking around on carpet. It might get better or it might get worse over time. Not something I want to mess with at this point though. That automatically makes the shoes a no go for me.

To summarize, here are the shoes that didn't work for me so far:

Nike: Ishod, Cortez, Dunks, Force 58, Blazers

NB: 440, 1010, 808

DC: Metric

Emerica: Pillar

These shoes are on the maybe list:

Vans: BMX 114

Emerica: KSL G6

Still waiting for these to arrive:

Vans: MC 96

Adidas: Tyshawn

'eS: Stylus Mid
Give the Tyshawn mids some serious consideration, and also try them with the super feet green insoles. They got me much better with those insoles Than the stock.
They are going to feel way too stiff at first, but try long walks in them to get them started
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ok on March 05, 2023, 08:06:10 PM
That’s buck. I also tried them with the green super feets. And it was a go.
Tyshawn mids were very nice, as good of a skate shoe as I’ve had.
My quick list over the last 5 ish years, that were noteworthy for me:

Ave pro
Legacy slim
Tyshawn mids
Dunks
Jordan 1s
Tiago 1010s
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes
Post by: blahblah999 on March 06, 2023, 08:17:01 AM

Give the Tyshawn mids some serious consideration, and also try them with the super feet green insoles. They got me much better with those insoles Than the stock.
They are going to feel way too stiff at first, but try long walks in them to get them started

I will try them like any other shoe. Fit is key and I have trouble getting a good fit with a lot of shoes. I have a variety of insoles here including some superfeet I use for running shoes and boots. One thing I've learned over time is that if I cannot get a good fit initially, the shoe is not worth messing with for me. Sizing up doesn't always work for me either. Many times it solves one fit problem but then creates another.
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes
Post by: chronicbackpain on March 06, 2023, 08:28:35 AM
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Give the Tyshawn mids some serious consideration, and also try them with the super feet green insoles. They got me much better with those insoles Than the stock.
They are going to feel way too stiff at first, but try long walks in them to get them started
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I will try them like any other shoe. Fit is key and I have trouble getting a good fit with a lot of shoes. I have a variety of insoles here including some superfeet I use for running shoes and boots. One thing I've learned over time is that if I cannot get a good fit initially, the shoe is not worth messing with for me. Sizing up doesn't always work for me either. Many times it solves one fit problem but then creates another.
Amen. You get rid of the tightness in the forefoot from sizing up, but then you’re left with heel slip. The  only times sizing up/down has worked has been based on the amount of (or lack of) padding.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Turtle Boy on March 06, 2023, 08:40:33 AM
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I know it will surprise many, but I really wanted to highlight these shoes..

(I think they are much more accessible to Europeans though.)

The Cupsole models from Decathlon !

I have ridden these shoes for a long time, I can't find a better cupsole honestly.. But I haven't tried many other shoes!

They protect me enormously, a perfect fit!

Here is the video that explains the design of this shoe (English subtitles that you can activate)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4wQ0V2kcQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou4wQ0V2kcQ)

I know some are probably shocked "WHAT ? DECATHLON ?" , but know that all the shoes have been created and worked on by true skaters since 2017, they have really created their brand "Decathlon skateboarding", so it's really access on the skate and apart from the sports store, and a very good value for money ! And I repeat, but I have never had such a cool and protective shoe! The shape is perfect, cupsole but not huge and very sharp, perfect for flips. I remain faithful to the real brands (Emerica always in my heart  :-*) for walking, but for skating they don't protect me enough .. !

Decathlon have also made a vulc model, very pretty and very good value for money, but, cupsole forever now !

( And see if people are interested in the video of the manufacture of the new Vulc, as you can see that everything is meticulously worked : https://youtu.be/RyRfJh30YbE (https://youtu.be/RyRfJh30YbE) )
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Interesting. Any idea how wide the toe box is on the Vulc model?
I know a 3 or 4 guys that skate a lot and swear by decathlon shoes. Probably the best value for money you can find on shoes, however if you look shoes on sale from other brands Soletech/DC/NB# you can find shoes for around the same price as decathlon. The price tag for Decathlon cups is around 40 €.
The only thing i tried from Decathlon are there wheels. And for 20€ they are the best wheels you can find: better than a lot of mid tier wheel brands, but not on the level of Bones/Spitfire.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on March 06, 2023, 09:27:16 AM
Sizing up a half size in the tyshawn mids was key,

Good toe room
Wide enough
Great heel lock (which helps with all of the above by keeping your foot where it should be). Note: the extra top eyelet laced properly is key.

I tried stock, super feet green and orange, FP 3mm game changers and a host of other shoe insoles and the FP work the best in this shoe for me.

It’s a chunky shoe at first, keep that in mind.

The only draw back, and this applies to most Adidas, is they aren't that grippy.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Crap on March 06, 2023, 10:07:48 AM
I just checked the Canadian Decathlon site and they don't have the skate shoes on there, but they do have a badminton model that looks pretty interesting for $45 CAD.
(https://contents.mediadecathlon.com/p2121125/ec2b50606812896e348b9258767bc815c6ca9c7237131044d5b1953bb8d945de/bs-190-ltd-badminton-shoes-men.jpg?format=auto&f=650x650)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: eSK3 on March 06, 2023, 01:37:46 PM
“We have kostons at home” when I look at those awful looking shits
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Crap on March 06, 2023, 02:43:10 PM
If you think those Kostons are bad, you should see the ones éS is selling.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Turtle Boy on March 06, 2023, 09:59:12 PM
I don't want to derail this thread on decathlon products but I was really close to try those decathlon handball shoes that are made in Portugal for only 55e!
The sole is really close to the Samba/busenitz but the leather and fit don't seem to be as good.

(https://contents.mediadecathlon.com/p2010851/k$f1dbc20f6908eee908257008be9e15b1/sq/chaussures-de-gardien-de-handball-hommefemme-gk500-blanc-noir.jpg?format=auto&f=480x480)

(https://contents.mediadecathlon.com/p2010774/k$1567f50cd9dc7fdc0058725a198ef0cd/sq/chaussures-de-gardien-de-handball-hommefemme-gk500-blanc-noir.jpg?format=auto&f=480x480)
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes
Post by: blahblah999 on March 08, 2023, 01:42:34 PM
Update on the search for old man skate shoes...

Adidas Tyshawn:

I've had a lot of Adidas shoes over the decades - going way back. No prior experience with their current skate line though. This is a nice looking shoe that feels fairly well made. Unfortunately the volume of the toe box is way too small and low for me.

It didn't matter if I used my aftermarket orthotics or the thin stock insoles - these don't fit my feet. Sizing up won't work either because the length is correct. Again, it's the volume of the toebox that's the problem here. Not sure if all the new Adidas skate shoes fit kinda like this or not. Disappointing.

Vans MC 96:

These are supposed to be a reissue of Mike Carroll's pro model from the 90s. Of course they don't have his name on them, because he doesn't skate for the company anymore. From what I've read the original version of this shoe was only around briefly. I honestly cannot remember if I ever saw a pair BITD.

The quality of the material on the uppers and the stitching looks way better than any Vans I've ever seen. I guess these are part of the "VCU" line which is supposed to be a higher quality version of Vans. The olive/army green colorway is not for everyone. I do not mind it but it looks lighter in person than on some websites.

The sole is vulcanized which I typically don't like, but nowadays most cupsoles are so thin I don't think it matters. Like some other Vans there is no real midsole cushioning so you need a good insole with these if you decide not to use the stock one. The stock Popcush insole does not feel bad but lacks the arch support I need these days.

Fit seems TTS and there is some fairly thick padding on the tongue and around the ankle collar. Heel lock is not the best and I can feel the heel cup reinforcement when I walk in the shoes. Not good. Compared to the BMX 114 model, these just aren't as comfortable for me even though they look and feel like a higher quality shoe overall. If Vans could take the best aspects of the MC 96 and the 114 and make a hybrid, I would try that shoe.


'eS Stylus Mid:

These are on the lower side of a mid-top shoe and do not offer as much ankle protection as I would have liked. I ordered the Black/White colorway which has an upper made of suede and printed nubuck. I am not a fan of the way the nubuck material looks here, but it's tolerable.

The tongue and ankle padding are both very nice IMHO. There are no tongue straps, which I do not mind since I have problems with those sometimes. The lining of the shoe is very smooth and verges on slick. I did not mind it but some people may have an issue with it. The insole is very thin with a thin piece of arch support material. I did not have any issues fitting an FP 3.5mm orthotic inside the shoe. Overall shoe volume is good IMHO.

The sole on these is thinner than that of the KSL G6s but still feels comfortable. What I dislike is that the shape of the toe comes to a weird rounded point which reduces the amount of room in the toebox. The initial fit felt alright, but once I started to walk around on the carpet I could feel the lining of the shoe rubbing against one of my small toes. Ultimately these are a no go for me.

More later...
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes
Post by: Ok on March 08, 2023, 05:30:41 PM
Update on the search for old man skate shoes...

Adidas Tyshawn:

I've had a lot of Adidas shoes over the decades - going way back. No prior experience with their current skate line though. This is a nice looking shoe that feels fairly well made. Unfortunately the volume of the toe box is way too small and low for me.

It didn't matter if I used my aftermarket orthotics or the thin stock insoles - these don't fit my feet. Sizing up won't work either because the length is correct. Again, it's the volume of the toebox that's the problem here. Not sure if all the new Adidas skate shoes fit kinda like this or not. Disappointing.

Vans MC 96:

These are supposed to be a reissue of Mike Carroll's pro model from the 90s. Of course they don't have his name on them, because he doesn't skate for the company anymore. From what I've read the original version of this shoe was only around briefly. I honestly cannot remember if I ever saw a pair BITD.

The quality of the material on the uppers and the stitching looks way better than any Vans I've ever seen. I guess these are part of the "VCU" line which is supposed to be a higher quality version of Vans. The olive/army green colorway is not for everyone. I do not mind it but it looks lighter in person than on some websites.

The sole is vulcanized which I typically don't like, but nowadays most cupsoles are so thin I don't think it matters. Like some other Vans there is no real midsole cushioning so you need a good insole with these if you decide not to use the stock one. The stock Popcush insole does not feel bad but lacks the arch support I need these days.

Fit seems TTS and there is some fairly thick padding on the tongue and around the ankle collar. Heel lock is not the best and I can feel the heel cup reinforcement when I walk in the shoes. Not good. Compared to the BMX 114 model, these just aren't as comfortable for me even though they look and feel like a higher quality shoe overall. If Vans could take the best aspects of the MC 96 and the 114 and make a hybrid, I would try that shoe.


'eS Stylus Mid:

These are on the lower side of a mid-top shoe and do not offer as much ankle protection as I would have liked. I ordered the Black/White colorway which has an upper made of suede and printed nubuck. I am not a fan of the way the nubuck material looks here, but it's tolerable.

The tongue and ankle padding are both very nice IMHO. There are no tongue straps, which I do not mind since I have problems with those sometimes. The lining of the shoe is very smooth and verges on slick. I did not mind it but some people may have an issue with it. The insole is very thin with a thin piece of arch support material. I did not have any issues fitting an FP 3.5mm orthotic inside the shoe. Overall shoe volume is good IMHO.

The sole on these is thinner than that of the KSL G6s but still feels comfortable. What I dislike is that the shape of the toe comes to a weird rounded point which reduces the amount of room in the toebox. The initial fit felt alright, but once I started to walk around on the carpet I could feel the lining of the shoe rubbing against one of my small toes. Ultimately these are a no go for me.

More later...

If everyone you meet is an asshole, it might be your feet. Or something

This subject is near and dear to my heart. Foot pain keeps me from skating as much as I’d like, and I have family members that have severely limited their physical output, due to foot pain.
The poster @Crap has good recommendations imo.

My feet have spread out with age, and I went from wearing a 9, to a 10, after my mid 30s.
Shoes that work for me that I haven’t seen you mention:

Ave pro- I just kinda started being over the way they look, but for awhile I was all about em. I went for runs, played basketball/soccer, general walking around, bike shit, and skating. Just a good shoe, for me.

Dunks- what I wear the most. They just work. Not hyped on how they look, at this point, but they won’t be the problem.

Jordan 1s- same as dunks. Also the same in that I’m kinda over the look. I got a wide forefoot, and a narrow heel, so Nikes work. But it’s fuckin Nike.

Tiago’s 1010- I go tts. These are the most comfortable. The tech and build quality is a cut above. I get gnarly heel slip. I don’t care. Nothing is gonna be perfect.
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes
Post by: blahblah999 on March 08, 2023, 05:44:26 PM


If everyone you meet is an asshole, it might be your feet. Or something


I realize my feet aren't the easiest to fit. I am old (40s) and have had knee and foot problems. I have flat feet that are wide at the front and narrower at the back. Not every shoe will work.

I cannot tell you how many pairs of shoes over the years I have purchased only to donate later because they did not work for me after wearing them for a week or two, or even less.

I try not to do that anymore hence why I like to try shoes on at home instead of at a store or skate shop. I get more time to try the shoe and walk around and compare to other shoes.


This subject is near and dear to my heart. Foot pain keeps me from skating as much as I’d like, and I have family members that have severely limited their physical output, due to foot pain.
The poster @Crap has good recommendations imo.


I will keep that in mind.


My feet have spread out with age, and I went from wearing a 9, to a 10, after my mid 30s.


Yep. I wore a 9 or 9.5 for many years. It was only a few years ago that my podiatrist and an NB store employee pointed out that my shoes were a little too small. I typically wear a 10D in most TTS shoes now. Of course the Brannock measurement only tells you the length and width. It does not tell you about other aspects of comfort or fit. Many shoes "almost" fit my foot only to rub on a toe or on my instep which makes them a no go.



Shoes that work for me that I haven’t seen you mention:

Ave pro- I just kinda started being over the way they look, but for awhile I was all about em. I went for runs, played basketball/soccer, general walking around, bike shit, and skating. Just a good shoe, for me.

Dunks- what I wear the most. They just work. Not hyped on how they look, at this point, but they won’t be the problem.

Jordan 1s- same as dunks. Also the same in that I’m kinda over the look. I got a wide forefoot, and a narrow heel, so Nikes work. But it’s fuckin Nike.

Tiago’s 1010- I go tts. These are the most comfortable. The tech and build quality is a cut above. I get gnarly heel slip. I don’t care. Nothing is gonna be perfect.

Dunks and 1010s don't work for me. I tried them. No experience with the Ave pro. I may give them a shot.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ok on March 08, 2023, 06:11:34 PM
Another thing: I used to obsess about wearing shoes as small as possible. Bad.
Running stores fit me in 11s, often. Fits the arch better.
All to say, I’ve had much better luck, sizing up, and just getting used to the slip/slop. The ‘joggers loop’ I think it’s called, the lacing trick, that helps me with the narrow heel problems.
Godspeed.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: blahblah999 on March 08, 2023, 08:13:55 PM
Another thing: I used to obsess about wearing shoes as small as possible. Bad.
Running stores fit me in 11s, often. Fits the arch better.
All to say, I’ve had much better luck, sizing up, and just getting used to the slip/slop. The ‘joggers loop’ I think it’s called, the lacing trick, that helps me with the narrow heel problems.
Godspeed.

Never had anyone at a store try to convince me on 11s. I've tried 10.5s before (half a size up) and that rarely works for me. Lace locks can help, sure, but they can only do so much with my feet. If I need to practically cut off circulation with them in order to avoid heel slip then it's an absolute no go. I can't deal with heel slip either because I get blisters from that.

I don't try too hard to make a shoe work when it's just not going to fit my feet properly. It doesn't matter how much I like the brand or style. I just move on. Everything is always down to the shape of the shoe's last, which few sneaker manufacturers even bother to describe in their product listings.

After trying all the shoes I've got 2 pairs that seem to fit fairly well. I could stop at this point and wait to try more after these are done. I could also try more shoes and see if there are any I like better than the 2 pairs that made the cut. Not sure what I will do just yet.


Summary:

These shoes are likely keepers:

Vans: BMX 114

Emerica: KSL G6


Didn't work:

Nike: Ishod, Cortez, Dunks, Force 58, Blazers

NB: 440, 1010, 808

DC: Metric

Emerica: Pillar

'eS: Stylus Mid

Adidas: Tyshawn Mid

Vans: MC 96

Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes
Post by: Crap on March 09, 2023, 05:44:00 AM
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Update on the search for old man skate shoes...

Adidas Tyshawn:
 

Vans MC 96:


'eS Stylus Mid:


More later...
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If everyone you meet is an asshole, it might be your feet. Or something

This subject is near and dear to my heart. Foot pain keeps me from skating as much as I’d like, and I have family members that have severely limited their physical output, due to foot pain.
The poster @Crap has good recommendations imo.

My feet have spread out with age, and I went from wearing a 9, to a 10, after my mid 30s.
Shoes that work for me that I haven’t seen you mention:

Ave pro- I just kinda started being over the way they look, but for awhile I was all about em. I went for runs, played basketball/soccer, general walking around, bike shit, and skating. Just a good shoe, for me.

Dunks- what I wear the most. They just work. Not hyped on how they look, at this point, but they won’t be the problem.

Jordan 1s- same as dunks. Also the same in that I’m kinda over the look. I got a wide forefoot, and a narrow heel, so Nikes work. But it’s fuckin Nike.

Tiago’s 1010- I go tts. These are the most comfortable. The tech and build quality is a cut above. I get gnarly heel slip. I don’t care. Nothing is gonna be perfect.

Hey, thanks for the shout out!

Sounds like OP maybe has the shoe dilemma sorted? I've settled on Dunk hi's as my skate shoe of choice now that it got a little easier to get ahold of them. But when that wasn't the case, I tried pretty much every other shoe and have read pretty much everything possible about feet, insoles, shoes, etc. In general, I'm really happy there are more cupsoles coming out from every brand and am hoping to try out the Last Resort cupsole and the Leo Baker pro shoe when they come out.

@blahblah999, sounds like you've tried a lot and settled on a couple options, but the only ones I might add to your list to try on in the future if you're still looking might be the Skate Half Cabs. With the heel shank, the new Vans outsole is much more supportive than the old one, and I would argue that it feels more like a cupsole than the BMX/wafflecup sole. I haven't tried on the MC96, but the Half Cab tongue isn't as puffy and it doesn't have that cutout at the heel that I bet is bad for heel lock (this only applies to the regular Half Cab, not the Half Cab '92, which feels like the collar is a little lower). For what it's worth, I had the same fit problems with the Tyshawn mid and going up half a size did help - I didn't think it would either until I tried them on.
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes
Post by: blahblah999 on March 09, 2023, 10:15:45 AM

@blahblah999, sounds like you've tried a lot and settled on a couple options, but the only ones I might add to your list to try on in the future if you're still looking might be the Skate Half Cabs. With the heel shank, the new Vans outsole is much more supportive than the old one, and I would argue that it feels more like a cupsole than the BMX/wafflecup sole. I haven't tried on the MC96, but the Half Cab tongue isn't as puffy and it doesn't have that cutout at the heel that I bet is bad for heel lock (this only applies to the regular Half Cab, not the Half Cab '92, which feels like the collar is a little lower). For what it's worth, I had the same fit problems with the Tyshawn mid and going up half a size did help - I didn't think it would either until I tried them on.

Last time I tried on a pair of Half Cabs was over 10 years ago now. I didn't like them at that time as they felt too unstructured and floppy. The HCs I remember from the 90s with the glued-in insole were the same way. No idea about the HC 92s either.

I don't know anything about the new Skate HCs and hadn't really considered them. I was kinda sorta eyeing the Vans Wayvee. I do kinda worry about the fit of those though.

Other shoes I had considered but may or may not bother trying are the 'eS Tom Penny 2 mid-tops, Emerica G6 Gamma, DC Lynx Zero, Adidas Forum ADV, etc.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ChompskyHonk on March 09, 2023, 06:21:03 PM
I have no clue how the tom penny 2 reissues fit as far as the upper goes, but they're on the same sole as the og accels. out of all the shoes I've skated that cupsole is easily the most supportive I've had.  compared to dunks, a slimmer but not super slim cupsole, the Accel cupsole is much more supportive due to the full length eva foam that molds to your feet, and the fact that it's much wider than the dunk cupsole. my ankles are shit and I tend to roll them a lot in skinnier shoes, but I haven't had nearly as many bad experiences with the accel cupsole than any other cupsole or vulc shoe. since the penny 2s are a mid top I would expect that support from the upper would be even better in those than accels
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: pops on March 09, 2023, 10:41:09 PM
Any recommendations on the Ksl g6? I tried the regular gammas and liked them. Maybe a little too wide on the mid foot but otherwise good.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on March 09, 2023, 11:25:16 PM
Any recommendations on the Ksl g6? I tried the regular gammas and liked them. Maybe a little too wide on the mid foot but otherwise good.
gave cupsole atm, also a roomy up in the toe box but that works better for my troll feet tbh
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: blahblah999 on March 10, 2023, 06:20:13 AM
Any recommendations on the Ksl g6? I tried the regular gammas and liked them. Maybe a little too wide on the mid foot but otherwise good.

I have feet that are wide at the front, decent volume, and narrow heels. The KSL G6 are some of the best fitting shoes for me so far and I have tried a lot of shoes. If you have a narrow foot and/or like a shoe with a low volume toebox, they might not be for you. Only way to know for sure is to try them.

No experience with Gammas but may try the G6 Gamma.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: pops on March 10, 2023, 06:35:42 AM
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Any recommendations on the Ksl g6? I tried the regular gammas and liked them. Maybe a little too wide on the mid foot but otherwise good.
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I have feet that are wide at the front, decent volume, and narrow heels. The KSL G6 are some of the best fitting shoes for me so far and I have tried a lot of shoes. If you have a narrow foot and/or like a shoe with a low volume toebox, they might not be for you. Only way to know for sure is to try them.

No experience with Gammas but may try the G6 Gamma.

Thanks! Sounds like a perfect shaped shoe for me. I have the non G6 Gammas and they're narrower and lower towards the toes. I wish the heel lock was a bit better, too.
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes
Post by: Crap on March 10, 2023, 10:28:57 AM
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@blahblah999, sounds like you've tried a lot and settled on a couple options, but the only ones I might add to your list to try on in the future if you're still looking might be the Skate Half Cabs. With the heel shank, the new Vans outsole is much more supportive than the old one, and I would argue that it feels more like a cupsole than the BMX/wafflecup sole. I haven't tried on the MC96, but the Half Cab tongue isn't as puffy and it doesn't have that cutout at the heel that I bet is bad for heel lock (this only applies to the regular Half Cab, not the Half Cab '92, which feels like the collar is a little lower). For what it's worth, I had the same fit problems with the Tyshawn mid and going up half a size did help - I didn't think it would either until I tried them on.
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Last time I tried on a pair of Half Cabs was over 10 years ago now. I didn't like them at that time as they felt too unstructured and floppy. The HCs I remember from the 90s with the glued-in insole were the same way. No idea about the HC 92s either.

I don't know anything about the new Skate HCs and hadn't really considered them. I was kinda sorta eyeing the Vans Wayvee. I do kinda worry about the fit of those though.

Other shoes I had considered but may or may not bother trying are the 'eS Tom Penny 2 mid-tops, Emerica G6 Gamma, DC Lynx Zero, Adidas Forum ADV, etc.

The Skate Half Cabs might be worth at least a try-on if you have a shop nearby that has them. I *HATE* unstructured and floppy shoes and I wear cupsoles almost exclusively, but I can make the new Half Cabs work. The Vans Pro line (the generation prior to the current one) were all paper thin and not at all wearable for me, but the Skate Half Cabs are a lot more solid in the heel/collar area, and the sole feels thicker/more supportive due to the heel shank and the deeper tread. They just feel like they're built a little more solid overall than they used to be if that makes sense.

I haven't tried the Wayvee, but I have tried a couple other Wafflecup shoes, and I just found the soles to be too floppy/thin. I don't really get why they still make Wafflecup anymore - I feel like it's less supportive than the regular vulcs in the Skate line, now that they beefed up the standard sole construction a little bit.

Only other shoes on your list that I have any experience with were the Forum ADV's, and they did not work at all for me (bought them from the Adidas site when they first came out, tried them on once and sent them back immediately). Not much cushion or support in the sole, and there wasn't enough room to swap out the (very thin) insole. The volume was pretty low, too. They weren't what I wanted, but they might be the right shoes for someone who is looking for a really minimal cupsole, has a very narrow/thin foot, and doesn't need to switch insoles.
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes
Post by: blahblah999 on March 10, 2023, 12:03:13 PM

The Skate Half Cabs might be worth at least a try-on if you have a shop nearby that has them. I *HATE* unstructured and floppy shoes and I wear cupsoles almost exclusively, but I can make the new Half Cabs work. The Vans Pro line (the generation prior to the current one) were all paper thin and not at all wearable for me, but the Skate Half Cabs are a lot more solid in the heel/collar area, and the sole feels thicker/more supportive due to the heel shank and the deeper tread. They just feel like they're built a little more solid overall than they used to be if that makes sense.

I haven't tried the Wayvee, but I have tried a couple other Wafflecup shoes, and I just found the soles to be too floppy/thin. I don't really get why they still make Wafflecup anymore - I feel like it's less supportive than the regular vulcs in the Skate line, now that they beefed up the standard sole construction a little bit.

Only other shoes on your list that I have any experience with were the Forum ADV's, and they did not work at all for me (bought them from the Adidas site when they first came out, tried them on once and sent them back immediately). Not much cushion or support in the sole, and there wasn't enough room to swap out the (very thin) insole. The volume was pretty low, too. They weren't what I wanted, but they might be the right shoes for someone who is looking for a really minimal cupsole, has a very narrow/thin foot, and doesn't need to switch insoles.

Thanks for the feedback on those. I will eventually give the Skate Half Cabs a try. I can get them with free return shipping and an easy return if they don't work out. The closest local skate shop to me does not have a great selection of shoes. They carry a lot of Nike and NB but none of those worked for me and I tried a bunch of shoes there. I think there is a Vans shop in a mall or something on the other side of town but I'm rarely in that area. Probably easier to try on at home, especially since I need to be sure about the fit. You mentioned the heel shank? Are you talking about a shank like in a pair of workboots or something more like a plastic heelcup between layers of leather and fabric of the shoe's upper?

I will skip the Forum ADV based on your feedback. I can deal with a thin insole because I have thin Superfeet insoles I can use with shoes like that. The ones I have are substantially thinner than the Superfeet that most shops carry. That said I can't deal with a narrow shoe nor the low volume toebox.

In case anyone cares I was able to roughly measure the Vans Popcush insoles (from the BMX 114) with a set of calipers. The center heel thickness (NOT curved sidewalls) is ~12mm. Front of the insole near toes is ~3mm. Basically if you are looking to replace Popcush with orthotics or aftermarket insoles watch out for insoles that are too thick at the front by the toes. That can reduce the volume of the toebox and make the shoe fit tighter. If the heel of your aftermarket is thinner than a Popcush, it will just make your heel sit a little lower in the shoe.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: MetalAnkleMan on March 10, 2023, 12:10:42 PM
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Another thing: I used to obsess about wearing shoes as small as possible. Bad.
Running stores fit me in 11s, often. Fits the arch better.
All to say, I’ve had much better luck, sizing up, and just getting used to the slip/slop. The ‘joggers loop’ I think it’s called, the lacing trick, that helps me with the narrow heel problems.
Godspeed.
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Never had anyone at a store try to convince me on 11s. I've tried 10.5s before (half a size up) and that rarely works for me. Lace locks can help, sure, but they can only do so much with my feet. If I need to practically cut off circulation with them in order to avoid heel slip then it's an absolute no go. I can't deal with heel slip either because I get blisters from that.

I don't try too hard to make a shoe work when it's just not going to fit my feet properly. It doesn't matter how much I like the brand or style. I just move on. Everything is always down to the shape of the shoe's last, which few sneaker manufacturers even bother to describe in their product listings.

After trying all the shoes I've got 2 pairs that seem to fit fairly well. I could stop at this point and wait to try more after these are done. I could also try more shoes and see if there are any I like better than the 2 pairs that made the cut. Not sure what I will do just yet.


Summary:

These shoes are likely keepers:

Vans: BMX 114

Emerica: KSL G6


Didn't work:

Nike: Ishod, Cortez, Dunks, Force 58, Blazers

NB: 440, 1010, 808

DC: Metric

Emerica: Pillar

'eS: Stylus Mid

Adidas: Tyshawn Mid

Vans: MC 96

Have you tried the Etnies Marana? Based on how you described your feet and liking the Emerica KSL G6 it seems like the Etnies Marana might be another option for you. I would say the KSL as a whole is wider but Marana better craftsmanship/built quality
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: blahblah999 on March 10, 2023, 12:35:10 PM

Have you tried the Etnies Marana? Based on how you described your feet and liking the Emerica KSL G6 it seems like the Etnies Marana might be another option for you. I would say the KSL as a whole is wider but Marana better craftsmanship/built quality

I have not. I could try it at some point.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: GoneWithTheSchwinn on March 11, 2023, 10:00:52 AM
The Forum lows by Adidas have been treating me right for a while. Good board feel and can walk around in them for hours after skating. Wish half-cabs were like that.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: chillclinton87 on March 12, 2023, 04:26:04 AM
still rocking the forum mid/ MXA/ Lil Dre Colorway!
Bit more beefed than a dunk, super solid at first but surprisingly great boardfeel. for me at least, i skate cupsoles exclusively mostly dunks when i can get them. Forum Mids were not looking very beat up after 3 weeks of skating them (mind this being twice a week for like 4 hours and not daily).

Still great looking/ lasting shoes that still have tons of life in them.

how anybody finds them floppy is beyond me, but maybe had the suede ones or the lows feel different?
Big fan of the foam midsole on these
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FrenchSkater on March 13, 2023, 12:53:02 AM
What is your opinion on the Westgate New Balance 508 ?

My current skate shoes are dead and I'm hesitant to try them on because I need protection for my heels and back.. I'm getting more and more picky about skate shoes, I need a lot of cushioning and support. protection!

If you have other shoes to advise me .. Not the tiago ones because I can't put 100 $ in shoes and I don't like the colors on sale haha

I am also very attracted by the Emerica gamma (Not G6) , being a big fan of the brand for a long time but I do not know if they protect enough .. (I was very disappointed on the models released after the reynolds G6 ..)

I also saw a pair of NB 440s but the" Challenger" models.. Is this good for skateboarding ?

Lots of questions but thank you for clarifying in my choice, me and my aging body.. haha  :-*
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fs1/2cab on March 13, 2023, 01:18:48 AM
What is your opinion on the Westgate New Balance 508 ?

My current skate shoes are dead and I'm hesitant to try them on because I need protection for my heels and back.. I'm getting more and more picky about skate shoes, I need a lot of cushioning and support. protection!

If you have other shoes to advise me .. Not the tiago ones because I can't put 100 $ in shoes and I don't like the colors on sale haha

I am also very attracted by the Emerica gamma (Not G6) , being a big fan of the brand for a long time but I do not know if they protect enough .. (I was very disappointed on the models released after the reynolds G6 ..)

I also saw a pair of NB 440s but the" Challenger" models.. Is this good for skateboarding ?

Lots of questions but thank you for clarifying in my choice, me and my aging body.. haha  :-*

I tried all these shoe models you named.

Protection wise, the Emerica Gamma (non G6) would be the best. I have them as everyday wear shoe and they still feel like the first day after 9 months. But I had to half size down because I got crazy heel slip and my toes were swimming in my usual size.

The 508 didn't work for my feet. Too much room in the front of my toes and too narrow at the heel.

The 440 feels really snug and it doesn't really feel like a cupsole. I wear them inside the house to hopefully stretch the toe area out a bit.

But I have very flat and low volume feet, so your experience might be a bit different.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FrenchSkater on March 13, 2023, 02:21:14 AM
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What is your opinion on the Westgate New Balance 508 ?

My current skate shoes are dead and I'm hesitant to try them on because I need protection for my heels and back.. I'm getting more and more picky about skate shoes, I need a lot of cushioning and support. protection!

If you have other shoes to advise me .. Not the tiago ones because I can't put 100 $ in shoes and I don't like the colors on sale haha

I am also very attracted by the Emerica gamma (Not G6) , being a big fan of the brand for a long time but I do not know if they protect enough .. (I was very disappointed on the models released after the reynolds G6 ..)

I also saw a pair of NB 440s but the" Challenger" models.. Is this good for skateboarding ?

Lots of questions but thank you for clarifying in my choice, me and my aging body.. haha  :-*
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I tried all these shoe models you named.

Protection wise, the Emerica Gamma (non G6) would be the best. I have them as everyday wear shoe and they still feel like the first day after 9 months. But I had to half size down because I got crazy heel slip and my toes were swimming in my usual size.

The 508 didn't work for my feet. Too much room in the front of my toes and too narrow at the heel.

The 440 feels really snug and it doesn't really feel like a cupsole. I wear them inside the house to hopefully stretch the toe area out a bit.

But I have very flat and low volume feet, so your experience might be a bit different.

You reassure me with the gamma! Interesting to skate really .. and I will admit that it is much more my style than new balance or nike ahah

And I've heard a lot of negative opinions about westgates, because they look a lot more like vulcs than cupsoles..
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Chronic85 on March 13, 2023, 02:41:30 AM
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What is your opinion on the Westgate New Balance 508 ?

My current skate shoes are dead and I'm hesitant to try them on because I need protection for my heels and back.. I'm getting more and more picky about skate shoes, I need a lot of cushioning and support. protection!

If you have other shoes to advise me .. Not the tiago ones because I can't put 100 $ in shoes and I don't like the colors on sale haha

I am also very attracted by the Emerica gamma (Not G6) , being a big fan of the brand for a long time but I do not know if they protect enough .. (I was very disappointed on the models released after the reynolds G6 ..)

I also saw a pair of NB 440s but the" Challenger" models.. Is this good for skateboarding ?

Lots of questions but thank you for clarifying in my choice, me and my aging body.. haha  :-*
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I tried all these shoe models you named.

Protection wise, the Emerica Gamma (non G6) would be the best. I have them as everyday wear shoe and they still feel like the first day after 9 months. But I had to half size down because I got crazy heel slip and my toes were swimming in my usual size.

The 508 didn't work for my feet. Too much room in the front of my toes and too narrow at the heel.

The 440 feels really snug and it doesn't really feel like a cupsole. I wear them inside the house to hopefully stretch the toe area out a bit.

But I have very flat and low volume feet, so your experience might be a bit different.
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You reassure me with the gamma! Interesting to skate really .. and I will admit that it is much more my style than new balance or nike ahah

And I've heard a lot of negative opinions about westgates, because they look a lot more like vulcs than cupsoles..

Skated the Gamma, horrible shoe. Just a beefy Cupsole and a bit of padding on the sites, thats it.
You think the Gamma has more style than NB or Nike??
Fugly shoe.
Looks like a Hovercraft for your feet from above.
Emerica is trash expect for those nostalgic boomers defending them.

440s much too thin. Feels and skates like a Vulc. Pain after Session is inclusive.

You want protection, buy a 1010 or maybe an 808. I have plantar fasciitis on my left foot and insertional achilles tendonitis on my right. I have zero Pain in and after the session with those shoes.
Theyre fantastic!
And its not like you will rip through them in 2-3 sessions.
So maybe its worth to spend the money ;)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Steely Daniel on March 13, 2023, 03:02:45 AM
Any thoughts on the NB 425? Or are they just a shittier version of the 440?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FrenchSkater on March 13, 2023, 03:46:05 AM
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What is your opinion on the Westgate New Balance 508 ?

My current skate shoes are dead and I'm hesitant to try them on because I need protection for my heels and back.. I'm getting more and more picky about skate shoes, I need a lot of cushioning and support. protection!

If you have other shoes to advise me .. Not the tiago ones because I can't put 100 $ in shoes and I don't like the colors on sale haha

I am also very attracted by the Emerica gamma (Not G6) , being a big fan of the brand for a long time but I do not know if they protect enough .. (I was very disappointed on the models released after the reynolds G6 ..)

I also saw a pair of NB 440s but the" Challenger" models.. Is this good for skateboarding ?

Lots of questions but thank you for clarifying in my choice, me and my aging body.. haha  :-*
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I tried all these shoe models you named.

Protection wise, the Emerica Gamma (non G6) would be the best. I have them as everyday wear shoe and they still feel like the first day after 9 months. But I had to half size down because I got crazy heel slip and my toes were swimming in my usual size.

The 508 didn't work for my feet. Too much room in the front of my toes and too narrow at the heel.

The 440 feels really snug and it doesn't really feel like a cupsole. I wear them inside the house to hopefully stretch the toe area out a bit.

But I have very flat and low volume feet, so your experience might be a bit different.
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You reassure me with the gamma! Interesting to skate really .. and I will admit that it is much more my style than new balance or nike ahah

And I've heard a lot of negative opinions about westgates, because they look a lot more like vulcs than cupsoles..
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Skated the Gamma, horrible shoe. Just a beefy Cupsole and a bit of padding on the sites, thats it.
You think the Gamma has more style than NB or Nike??
Fugly shoe.
Looks like a Hovercraft for your feet from above.
Emerica is trash expect for those nostalgic boomers defending them.

440s much too thin. Feels and skates like a Vulc. Pain after Session is inclusive.

You want protection, buy a 1010 or maybe an 808. I have plantar fasciitis on my left foot and insertional achilles tendonitis on my right. I have zero Pain in and after the session with those shoes.
Theyre fantastic!
And its not like you will rip through them in 2-3 sessions.
So maybe its worth to spend the money ;)

HONESTLY ? YES ! Emerica have for me the MOST beautiful shoes !  :-* ;)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Chronic85 on March 13, 2023, 04:26:55 AM
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What is your opinion on the Westgate New Balance 508 ?

My current skate shoes are dead and I'm hesitant to try them on because I need protection for my heels and back.. I'm getting more and more picky about skate shoes, I need a lot of cushioning and support. protection!

If you have other shoes to advise me .. Not the tiago ones because I can't put 100 $ in shoes and I don't like the colors on sale haha

I am also very attracted by the Emerica gamma (Not G6) , being a big fan of the brand for a long time but I do not know if they protect enough .. (I was very disappointed on the models released after the reynolds G6 ..)

I also saw a pair of NB 440s but the" Challenger" models.. Is this good for skateboarding ?

Lots of questions but thank you for clarifying in my choice, me and my aging body.. haha  :-*
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I tried all these shoe models you named.

Protection wise, the Emerica Gamma (non G6) would be the best. I have them as everyday wear shoe and they still feel like the first day after 9 months. But I had to half size down because I got crazy heel slip and my toes were swimming in my usual size.

The 508 didn't work for my feet. Too much room in the front of my toes and too narrow at the heel.

The 440 feels really snug and it doesn't really feel like a cupsole. I wear them inside the house to hopefully stretch the toe area out a bit.

But I have very flat and low volume feet, so your experience might be a bit different.
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You reassure me with the gamma! Interesting to skate really .. and I will admit that it is much more my style than new balance or nike ahah

And I've heard a lot of negative opinions about westgates, because they look a lot more like vulcs than cupsoles..
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Skated the Gamma, horrible shoe. Just a beefy Cupsole and a bit of padding on the sites, thats it.
You think the Gamma has more style than NB or Nike??
Fugly shoe.
Looks like a Hovercraft for your feet from above.
Emerica is trash expect for those nostalgic boomers defending them.

440s much too thin. Feels and skates like a Vulc. Pain after Session is inclusive.

You want protection, buy a 1010 or maybe an 808. I have plantar fasciitis on my left foot and insertional achilles tendonitis on my right. I have zero Pain in and after the session with those shoes.
Theyre fantastic!
And its not like you will rip through them in 2-3 sessions.
So maybe its worth to spend the money ;)
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HONESTLY ? YES ! Emerica have for me the MOST beautiful shoes !  :-* ;)

Nice. At least they still got some fans :)
Also thought the Gamma looks decent until i saw them from above.
Still if you want protection, cushioning and support you should try something else.
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes
Post by: Crap on March 13, 2023, 05:28:09 AM
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The Skate Half Cabs might be worth at least a try-on if you have a shop nearby that has them. I *HATE* unstructured and floppy shoes and I wear cupsoles almost exclusively, but I can make the new Half Cabs work. The Vans Pro line (the generation prior to the current one) were all paper thin and not at all wearable for me, but the Skate Half Cabs are a lot more solid in the heel/collar area, and the sole feels thicker/more supportive due to the heel shank and the deeper tread. They just feel like they're built a little more solid overall than they used to be if that makes sense.

I haven't tried the Wayvee, but I have tried a couple other Wafflecup shoes, and I just found the soles to be too floppy/thin. I don't really get why they still make Wafflecup anymore - I feel like it's less supportive than the regular vulcs in the Skate line, now that they beefed up the standard sole construction a little bit.

Only other shoes on your list that I have any experience with were the Forum ADV's, and they did not work at all for me (bought them from the Adidas site when they first came out, tried them on once and sent them back immediately). Not much cushion or support in the sole, and there wasn't enough room to swap out the (very thin) insole. The volume was pretty low, too. They weren't what I wanted, but they might be the right shoes for someone who is looking for a really minimal cupsole, has a very narrow/thin foot, and doesn't need to switch insoles.
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Thanks for the feedback on those. I will eventually give the Skate Half Cabs a try. I can get them with free return shipping and an easy return if they don't work out. The closest local skate shop to me does not have a great selection of shoes. They carry a lot of Nike and NB but none of those worked for me and I tried a bunch of shoes there. I think there is a Vans shop in a mall or something on the other side of town but I'm rarely in that area. Probably easier to try on at home, especially since I need to be sure about the fit. You mentioned the heel shank? Are you talking about a shank like in a pair of workboots or something more like a plastic heelcup between layers of leather and fabric of the shoe's upper?

Not as heavy duty as work boots would have, but yes, same concept. When they came out with the Skate line a couple years ago, Vans overhauled the soles for that line. Shank in the heel, deeper tread, and a new rubber compound. I mentioned Half Cabs specifically because they're the one I have experience with, but the Skate Old Skools, Eras, Sk8 Hi's, etc. will also have it. I have a couple of chronic foot problems, so the extra stability makes a big difference to me.
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes
Post by: blahblah999 on March 13, 2023, 09:02:04 AM


Not as heavy duty as work boots would have, but yes, same concept. When they came out with the Skate line a couple years ago, Vans overhauled the soles for that line. Shank in the heel, deeper tread, and a new rubber compound. I mentioned Half Cabs specifically because they're the one I have experience with, but the Skate Old Skools, Eras, Sk8 Hi's, etc. will also have it. I have a couple of chronic foot problems, so the extra stability makes a big difference to me.

When I tried the MC96 they definitely had something around of the back of the heel. Probably a plastic type material to stiffen the structure of the upper. That whole shoe felt like Half Cabs on steroids BTW. I would have liked the MC96s more if they had a better fabric lining in the heel area. Whatever they had was very thin and I could feel that hard plastic heel reinforcement in a way I didn't like. If the current Half Cabs are like that too, I probably wouldn't like that. FWIW the BMX 114 do not have this problem.

I never owned a pair of SK8 Hi BITD, but Old Skools were the first shoes I ever skated in back in the 90s. I found them generally terrible. I realize the new ones have been improved somewhat but there just isn't enough structure to those uppers for me. Putting a thin rubber layer between the canvas part and the thin lining probably won't fix that either. The SK8 His look like a better design overall because they have suede in the ollie area at least. The upper still seems very thin and unstructured though.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 13, 2023, 09:35:17 AM
Tiagos are easy to find on sale in any color. And 1 pair lasts forever. Most people get 1.5-2x the normal wear out of a pair. So if cost is an issue you really will get more than your money's worth compared to most skate shoes especially something like Vans.

440 plus Superfeet insoles are a good rec. Stock insole sucks.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Frank and Fred on March 13, 2023, 09:39:39 AM
What Superfeet insoles do you recommend?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: blahblah999 on March 13, 2023, 10:13:06 AM

Emerica is trash expect for those nostalgic boomers defending them.



If you're going to insult people for being old at least get it right. "Boomers" are people born after WW2 but before the mid-60s. Anyone "nostalgic" for Sole Tech shoes would be Gen X or an older Millennial. A "boomer" would have been skating in something like Vans or Chucks or Purcells.
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes Cont'd...
Post by: blahblah999 on March 13, 2023, 05:54:14 PM
So I didn't plan on it, but I was near a Vans store earlier today. I tried on some shoes there. Not as good as trying them at home but I have a general idea of what to try in the future if I want.

AVE shoes are very narrow and form fitting - like a soccer boot or something. Definitely a no-go for me.

Halfcab Skate version was better than expected. A bit more form-fitting than the MC96, but still plenty of room in the forefoot and toebox. Not bad.

Wayvees surprised me. Nice and roomy shoe though not everyone will like the partial mesh construction. I did not mind but wonder how breathable it really is. If it is breathable, it would probably make a decent skate shoe during the warmest months.

I also tried the BMX SK8-Hi model. These have the BMX waffle cup rather than a vulcanized sole like the regular models. This shoe fit a little better than expected but lacing was a pain and the upper was not as supportive as the Halfcab or the BMX114. There was a bit of heel slip too, but I didn't have the shoes laced up correctly. I'd have to try this model at home to be sure about the fit. I'd probably just stay with the 114 as I like that model a bit more overall.

FYI Vans stores are running a buy one, get one 1/2 off sale right now. Not sure if the same discount will happen online. The clerk told me he was not sure how long this sale would last, but that it would be on any pair of shoes, even a pair that were already discounted. Selection overall at the store I went to was not nearly as good as the website.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: LebowskisRug on March 13, 2023, 06:53:55 PM
What Superfeet insoles do you recommend?

I use Run Comfort, others use Adapt Run. NB sells Superfeet insoles rebranded with their logo and these are great for shoes with a midsole. In Vans I used the Orange.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on March 13, 2023, 07:02:04 PM
The wavy is a weird shoe for me. It’s really really wide. I had to lace them so tight the eyelet rows were almost touching. Liked just about everything else about the shoe tho.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: blahblah999 on March 14, 2023, 04:43:35 AM
The wavy is a weird shoe for me. It’s really really wide. I had to lace them so tight the eyelet rows were almost touching. Liked just about everything else about the shoe tho.

I would guess your feet are not very wide or you have low volume feet. I did not have those problems with the shoe but like any shoe it has pros and cons.
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes Cont'd...
Post by: klobynrenn on March 14, 2023, 07:04:27 AM
Halfcab Skate version was better than expected. A bit more form-fitting than the MC96, but still plenty of room in the forefoot and toebox. Not bad.

I’ve found a pair of the Vans MC96 on sale online and I wanna try em out but wasn’t sure what size to go for - would you say to just go for the same size I wear in the Skate Half Cabs? And how would you say the height of the MCs compares to the half cabs? They look a bit taller than half cabs in pictures imo but might just be my eyes playing tricks
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes Cont'd...
Post by: blahblah999 on March 14, 2023, 09:45:55 AM

I’ve found a pair of the Vans MC96 on sale online and I wanna try em out but wasn’t sure what size to go for - would you say to just go for the same size I wear in the Skate Half Cabs? And how would you say the height of the MCs compares to the half cabs? They look a bit taller than half cabs in pictures imo but might just be my eyes playing tricks

I would recommend the same size you normally wear. The lacing system is different so you may have to lace them a little tighter than a pair of Half Cabs. Height of the upper is very similar to Half Cabs. They both have that "boaty" look to them.
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes Cont'd...
Post by: Frank on March 14, 2023, 12:19:24 PM
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I’ve found a pair of the Vans MC96 on sale online and I wanna try em out but wasn’t sure what size to go for - would you say to just go for the same size I wear in the Skate Half Cabs? And how would you say the height of the MCs compares to the half cabs? They look a bit taller than half cabs in pictures imo but might just be my eyes playing tricks
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I would recommend the same size you normally wear. The lacing system is different so you may have to lace them a little tighter than a pair of Half Cabs. Height of the upper is very similar to Half Cabs. They both have that "boaty" look to them.

fwiw i tried them on at the shop. i'm a us 8.5 and they only had a 9, i tried them out regardless and they felt a bit too big even to be worn just as casual shoes. specifically they felt a little long. width would have been fine i guess. i wear 8.5 or even 8 in half cabs. if i had to place an order on these i'd get an 8.5. use this info however you like.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on March 14, 2023, 09:50:51 PM
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The wavy is a weird shoe for me. It’s really really wide. I had to lace them so tight the eyelet rows were almost touching. Liked just about everything else about the shoe tho.
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I would guess your feet are not very wide or you have low volume feet. I did not have those problems with the shoe but like any shoe it has pros and cons.

I have a wide metatarsal area. Narrow arch, the mid foot area where the eyelets are is what I was referencing.

A wide foot can mean different strokes for different folks.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: blahblah999 on March 15, 2023, 08:52:21 AM

I have a wide metatarsal area. Narrow arch, the mid foot area where the eyelets are is what I was referencing.

A wide foot can mean different strokes for different folks.

Right. Everyone's feet are a little different. Another reason why it's good to have choices in the market. The areas where I have the most trouble are across the instep and the outer edge of the shoe near the small toe. Heel slip can also be a problem with some shoes.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Frank on March 15, 2023, 04:22:58 PM
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I have a wide metatarsal area. Narrow arch, the mid foot area where the eyelets are is what I was referencing.

A wide foot can mean different strokes for different folks.
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Right. Everyone's feet are a little different. Another reason why it's good to have choices in the market. The areas where I have the most trouble are across the instep and the outer edge of the shoe near the small toe. Heel slip can also be a problem with some shoes.

heelslip is my enemy. i have the slimmest heels, but the fattest toes. not a good combo.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ok on March 15, 2023, 05:22:13 PM
Yo I’m hearing a lot of what people don’t like.
What is good tho?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on March 15, 2023, 06:42:04 PM
Yo I’m hearing a lot of what people don’t like.
What is good tho?

Haters gonna hate, but the Nyjah 3...wide enough for me, super grippy, no heel slip (has runner eyelets to lock down), comfy, light, breathable.

Tyshawns, KSL G6, Fastbreaks seem to be high up for everyone.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ok on March 15, 2023, 09:57:22 PM
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Yo I’m hearing a lot of what people don’t like.
What is good tho?
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Haters gonna hate, but the Nyjah 3...wide enough for me, super grippy, no heel slip (has runner eyelets to lock down), comfy, light, breathable.

Tyshawns, KSL G6, Fastbreaks seem to be high up for everyone.


Thank you!
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: blahblah999 on March 16, 2023, 08:57:29 AM
There are some interesting ideas in the construction of that Nyjah shoe. If I didn't have such a hard time getting a decent fit with Nikes, I'd give them a shot or at least try them on. I doubt they will fit me though. Every other Nike I've tried was a no-go for me, even Dunks.

Had some store credit from returned shoes so I'm giving the 'eS Penny 2s a shot. After that I will probably be set for awhile.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on March 16, 2023, 09:43:22 AM
If anything, it’s worth finding them just to try on that’s what I do, just go into whatever store that’s got the most selection of shoes (sadly for me, that means stepping into zoomies) and just sit around and try them all on…. The Nigel 3 fits very differently than other Nike I’ve tried and I’ve tried/owned quite a few.

It’s a completely different fit than say, force 58 or GTs/Bruins as it’s definitely more of a runner type/athletic shoe (of which I have a few) I’ve worked out in them to break them in (not that they need it) and they work just fine (I’ve seen two other people in my gym using them), there is a lot of give with the upper materials; oddly, I’ve also received a few non skater comments on them.

It’s been raining since I got them so I have not skated them so I can’t comment on that functionality.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ChompskyHonk on March 16, 2023, 12:16:46 PM
There are some interesting ideas in the construction of that Nyjah shoe. If I didn't have such a hard time getting a decent fit with Nikes, I'd give them a shot or at least try them on. I doubt they will fit me though. Every other Nike I've tried was a no-go for me, even Dunks.

Had some store credit from returned shoes so I'm giving the 'eS Penny 2s a shot. After that I will probably be set for awhile.

let me know how the penny 2s are. if they ever go on sale i might consider grabbing a pair
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: mamba on March 16, 2023, 04:53:15 PM
The new zahba shoe from vans is legit
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on March 16, 2023, 05:26:35 PM
The new zahba shoe from vans is legit

How’s the fit?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: theloniousmonk on March 16, 2023, 07:15:58 PM
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There are some interesting ideas in the construction of that Nyjah shoe. If I didn't have such a hard time getting a decent fit with Nikes, I'd give them a shot or at least try them on. I doubt they will fit me though. Every other Nike I've tried was a no-go for me, even Dunks.

Had some store credit from returned shoes so I'm giving the 'eS Penny 2s a shot. After that I will probably be set for awhile.
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let me know how the penny 2s are. if they ever go on sale i might consider grabbing a pair
Keep us posted for sure, and let us know about sizing. I had a pair of accel og that ran way too small. the toe on the penny2s looks way better than the accel and I’ll most likely grab a pair
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: j....soy..... on March 16, 2023, 10:45:40 PM
Anyone know if the Jordan 4 is any good?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FrenchSkater on March 17, 2023, 01:10:04 AM
First session today with the westgate 508. Very won over by new balance (my second pair, I had the 440 but only for walking every day), Not as horrible as some said, it's still a cupsole despite everything! Very good shoe, sole a little hard on the other hand but good cushioning !
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: elegant_fox on March 17, 2023, 06:29:03 AM
I got the NBA color way Ishods on sale and they’ve been skating really well for me. They’re like a slimmed down dunk, or at least they feel like it when I look down at my feet. I’m enjoying it having such a bulky sole while still having good impact protection.

The react insoles are also pretty great, they ought to put them in more of their lineup. It makes going back to GT lows feel literally painful.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: blahblah999 on March 17, 2023, 03:31:59 PM

Keep us posted for sure, and let us know about sizing. I had a pair of accel og that ran way too small. the toe on the penny2s looks way better than the accel and I’ll most likely grab a pair

I'll definitely comment on the construction and sizing once they arrive. They'll be my first 'eS shoes since the late 90s so my expectations are fairly high, especially given the price. If they don't fit or feel comfortable I'll return them.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on March 20, 2023, 07:55:21 PM
So I was able to finally skate the Nigel3 (no impact but running out of shit); comfy and grippy, flick was fine and I'll be damned if it isn't the most breezy fucking shoe I've ever worn...seriously, if it's windy, even breezy and it hits you just right you can feel it move through the shoe, crazy; gonna be a perfect summer/hot weather shoe.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: GoldenGateHeights on March 20, 2023, 09:26:33 PM
I've had to take 6-9 months off from skating for a variety of foot issues that all felt like happening in quick succession (bursitis, intractable plantar keratosis, and ended it all with a god damn abscess) and as a result have a very, very weak ball of my back foot.

What's the consensus on the best cup with ball of foot cushioning / support? Likely going to give the 1010's a try but figured I'd ask in here before biting the bullet.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on March 20, 2023, 10:19:37 PM
1010/808 for sure.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: blahblah999 on March 21, 2023, 09:04:04 AM
The 1010s are a very good shoe if you can get a good fit on them. I wish they worked for me, but they didn't.

Like any skate shoe with a real midsole, the midsole cushioning does thin out toward the front of the shoe. I can tell you the stock insoles are very thin, so if you're using an aftermarket orthotic or insole, you want to make sure it fits the shoe and doesn't cause your foot to get crammed.

(https://i.imgur.com/bSqhWTOl.jpg)

TBH, you may want to talk to your podiatrist or orthopedic doctor about going to PT, or doing PT type exercises at home - if you haven't already.
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes (Cont'd)
Post by: blahblah999 on March 21, 2023, 10:47:47 AM
'eS Penny 2 reissues showed up today. I missed out on this shoe because I had stepped away from skateboarding in the early 2000s when it was originally released. I had several pairs of 'eS shoes during the 90s though and generally liked them.

The materials and construction of the upper appear better than average quality compared to what you get these days. The upper is suede and there is decent thickness in the toe and ollie area. The suede is quite flexible which surprised me. The upper is not stiff in the toe like some shoes made of nubuck or synthetic materials. The parts that matter are triple and double stitched, though there are a lot more seams in the toe area compared to newer skate shoes. This does not bother me because I was never the type of person to completely shred my uppers. With most decently made shoes, I would wear out the sole first and the upper would only have some ripped stitches and a small hole.

In terms of fit I would call these wider than most skate shoes today. There is plenty of width and volume throughout the whole shoe IMHO. Even with the very thick, puffy tongue, there is enough room across the forefoot and toe area. Length seems TTS. Heel lock is good when the shoes are laced to the top and the laces are tightened properly. There is some decent padding around the ankle.

The shoes feel generally okay with the thin stock insoles but they don't provide enough arch support for me. I tried some 3.5mm FP orthotics and they fit in the shoe fine without cramming my feet. I'm not sure if I could get a 5mm FP in there or not. The 3.5mm should be sufficient for these shoes because there is some decent midsole cushioning. If you have a narrow foot, these shoes are probably not for you.

Overall, I would say the shoes are nice. One thing I didn't like were the extra long laces. They are too long for me and wouldn't work for skating. I can easily replace those but I'm mildly disappointed that a $110 pair of shoes in a fancy box did not come with an extra set of laces. There were also some loose threads under the insoles that didn't look great. Again, for the price I would expect this stuff to be cleaned up before the shoes get boxed up and shipped out for retail.

Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: JimGeko on March 21, 2023, 01:55:52 PM
Any news on the last resort cups?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: camel filters on March 21, 2023, 02:00:03 PM
Any news on the last resort cups?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy20-JMeSJY
0:40 he says next drop but there might be a delay as there are some QC issues.

Side note, this dude has to be responsible for a good portion of sales. Pontus got a lot of juice out of a guy just for giving out free shoes.
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes (Cont'd)
Post by: ChompskyHonk on March 24, 2023, 08:36:17 AM
The shoes feel generally okay with the thin stock insoles but they don't provide enough arch support for me. I tried some 3.5mm FP orthotics and they fit in the shoe fine without cramming my feet. I'm not sure if I could get a 5mm FP in there or not. The 3.5mm should be sufficient for these shoes because there is some decent midsole cushioning. If you have a narrow foot, these shoes are probably not for you.

once you break in the midsole the eva in it molds to your foot shape and gives a lot more support than once you first get them. stoked that you liked everything else about them tho
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: pops on March 24, 2023, 11:52:48 PM
After wearing the Emerica Gammas for couple weeks (not skating them), the collar started to feel kinda floppy around my ankles because they're so wide. I like how roomy the shoe is elsewhere and the sole feels quite supportive, but the the fact they don't feel secure around my ankles is not helping. I tried lacing them all the way up but they're still too wide. Maybe I'm going to get the KSL shoes next. Any idea if they're similar on sizing? I'm good with Us9 in Gammas, I have medium arch height and my left foot is a tad longer and thus left foot shoe feel snuggier at first.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ride it to dust on March 25, 2023, 06:35:54 AM
The 1010s are a very good shoe if you can get a good fit on them. I wish they worked for me, but they didn't.

Like any skate shoe with a real midsole, the midsole cushioning does thin out toward the front of the shoe. I can tell you the stock insoles are very thin, so if you're using an aftermarket orthotic or insole, you want to make sure it fits the shoe and doesn't cause your foot to get crammed.

(https://i.imgur.com/bSqhWTOl.jpg)

TBH, you may want to talk to your podiatrist or orthopedic doctor about going to PT, or doing PT type exercises at home - if you haven't already.


The heel to toe drop looks insane from that view
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: In A Jar on March 25, 2023, 07:13:48 AM
The heel to toe drop looks insane from that view

It is way too much.  No wonder I had intense knee pain from the 1010s. 
Title: Re: Old Man Skate Shoes (Cont'd)
Post by: blahblah999 on March 25, 2023, 02:08:11 PM

once you break in the midsole the eva in it molds to your foot shape and gives a lot more support than once you first get them. stoked that you liked everything else about them tho

Fair. I'm so used to orthotics at this point though that I'll probably stick with FP or Superfeet for these shoes.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: blahblah999 on March 25, 2023, 02:10:01 PM

The heel to toe drop looks insane from that view

Some other brands will have just as much or more, unless they are truly flat shoes with a flat insole and flat midsole. A pair of Vans has no midsole, but the insole acts like one and has a 12mm heel to 3mm forefoot.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: OhioGuy on March 26, 2023, 10:04:57 AM
It’s time to give up on these size 13 Tyshawn’s. The impact protection is great, but they’re too tight (even after four months). Guess I’ll move to size 14 😖

Options are so limited when you’re a bigger guy.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on March 26, 2023, 05:41:06 PM
It’s time to give up on these size 13 Tyshawn’s. The impact protection is great, but they’re too tight (even after four months). Guess I’ll move to size 14 😖

Options are so limited when you’re a bigger guy.

Half size it?  I usually run a 10 but the for the ty I went 10.5, great fit.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: OhioGuy on March 26, 2023, 07:56:00 PM
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It’s time to give up on these size 13 Tyshawn’s. The impact protection is great, but they’re too tight (even after four months). Guess I’ll move to size 14 😖

Options are so limited when you’re a bigger guy.
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Half size it?  I usually run a 10 but the for the ty I went 10.5, great fit.
It’s nearly impossible to find skate shoes in 13.5 sadly. I just see a pair of orange Tyshawn’s on Tactics. But no other sites have them in that size. I’d hate to get that size and never be able to find them again 😭
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on March 26, 2023, 10:59:56 PM
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It’s time to give up on these size 13 Tyshawn’s. The impact protection is great, but they’re too tight (even after four months). Guess I’ll move to size 14 😖

Options are so limited when you’re a bigger guy.
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Half size it?  I usually run a 10 but the for the ty I went 10.5, great fit.
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It’s nearly impossible to find skate shoes in 13.5 sadly. I just see a pair of orange Tyshawn’s on Tactics. But no other sites have them in that size. I’d hate to get that size and never be able to find them again 😭

Unless you like the boxy DC shoes models. Those are usually available in 13.5 but they leave much to be desired


Going up 0.5 to 1.0 size and adding an insole on top can sometimes make those larger sizes work if you (or anyone else) haven't tried it yet. Usually cups work better than vulcs with this technique
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: pops on March 30, 2023, 09:13:22 PM
Got my pair of KSL G6 and have to say they look and feel dreamy. Stood on my board wearing them and I can definitely feel my board just right amount. Cant wait to skate these baddies. These are probably my favorite shoes next to Gammas right now. I was never really into Emerica shoes before but they're killing it with these cupsoles. I had a pair Reynolds G6 before but their fit killed my feet.
These are def tts but slightly snug around my forefoot. What I did was I wore double socks in them and walked around the house and they feel great now.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: swongolianbbq on April 01, 2023, 12:25:28 AM
Hell yeah, I've had a bajillion emericas, mostly around 2005-2010ish

Ellington's, leos, tilts, Reynolds slims, hsus, spanlys, ksl's, ksl Dos, laced, etc etc

What I used to do with the cupsole ones was put em in the microwave for like 45 seconds per shoe and put a thick sock on and walk around for a while. Not with the ones with airbags or a bunch of metal eyelets though lol and usually only with the ones where the outsole is actually stitched on too cause idk about the glue situation but it was always fine back then. I was gonna microwave my dunk Hi's and superstar ADV's but tbh they already feel pretty good. I got a wide ass foot too. I put superfeet flex thin footbeds in the superstars and regular superfeet flex footbeds in the dunks though, the footbeds dunks come with are fuckin chonky
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on April 25, 2023, 04:54:51 PM
Cons fastbreaks are treating me right...old school vibe (I rode hi cups as a yout), easy to break in GREAT grip (coming off Tyshawns, it's night day)..nylon or whatever gets dirty as fuck REAL fast but w/e...jury is out on durability but I don't see that nylon holding up...Cons AS-1 PRO next up May 02 tho.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on April 25, 2023, 07:34:44 PM
Cons fastbreaks are treating me right...old school vibe (I rode hi cups as a yout), easy to break in GREAT grip (coming off Tyshawns, it's night day)..nylon or whatever gets dirty as fuck REAL fast but w/e...jury is out on durability but I don't see that nylon holding up...Cons AS-1 PRO next up May 02 tho.

How’s the fit? Do they fit big like the ctas or are they closer to tts? Was looking at some fastbreaks to order online but I don’t wanna have them too big or small
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on April 25, 2023, 08:22:42 PM
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Cons fastbreaks are treating me right...old school vibe (I rode hi cups as a yout), easy to break in GREAT grip (coming off Tyshawns, it's night day)..nylon or whatever gets dirty as fuck REAL fast but w/e...jury is out on durability but I don't see that nylon holding up...Cons AS-1 PRO next up May 02 tho.
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How’s the fit? Do they fit big like the ctas or are they closer to tts? Was looking at some fastbreaks to order online but I don’t wanna have them too big or small

@Wizard0f0dds

I was is in the same boat, no one local had any to try (and this forum was 50/50 TTS/Size down; but ALL online video reviews were size down 1/2 size) so I bit the bullet to get those blue/egret sage's (free/easy returns), then bit on some to skate during the last SW sale.

For Ref, I have on hand:

Lopez mid, premium suede 10 - TTS - don't wear them, they're so thin, probably kill my knees in one session.
Checkpoint pros (snakeskin/brown chillers) 10 - TTS
One Star Pro (gator skin blk/chillers/biz casual) 10 - TTS

Fastbreaks 9.5 and they fit me like a regs 10

Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ok on April 25, 2023, 09:24:06 PM
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Cons fastbreaks are treating me right...old school vibe (I rode hi cups as a yout), easy to break in GREAT grip (coming off Tyshawns, it's night day)..nylon or whatever gets dirty as fuck REAL fast but w/e...jury is out on durability but I don't see that nylon holding up...Cons AS-1 PRO next up May 02 tho.
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How’s the fit? Do they fit big like the ctas or are they closer to tts? Was looking at some fastbreaks to order online but I don’t wanna have them too big or small
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@Wizard0f0dds

I was is in the same boat, no one local had any to try (and this forum was 50/50 TTS/Size down; but ALL online video reviews were size down 1/2 size) so I bit the bullet to get those blue/egret sage's (free/easy returns), then bit on some to skate during the last SW sale.

For Ref, I have on hand:

Lopez mid, premium suede 10 - TTS - don't wear them, they're so thin, probably kill my knees in one session.
Checkpoint pros (snakeskin/brown chillers) 10 - TTS
One Star Pro (gator skin blk/chillers/biz casual) 10 - TTS

Fastbreaks 9.5 and they fit me like a regs 10

They look cool dirty
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Wizard0f0dds on April 25, 2023, 09:25:27 PM
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Cons fastbreaks are treating me right...old school vibe (I rode hi cups as a yout), easy to break in GREAT grip (coming off Tyshawns, it's night day)..nylon or whatever gets dirty as fuck REAL fast but w/e...jury is out on durability but I don't see that nylon holding up...Cons AS-1 PRO next up May 02 tho.
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How’s the fit? Do they fit big like the ctas or are they closer to tts? Was looking at some fastbreaks to order online but I don’t wanna have them too big or small
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@Wizard0f0dds

I was is in the same boat, no one local had any to try (and this forum was 50/50 TTS/Size down; but ALL online video reviews were size down 1/2 size) so I bit the bullet to get those blue/egret sage's (free/easy returns), then bit on some to skate during the last SW sale.

For Ref, I have on hand:

Lopez mid, premium suede 10 - TTS - don't wear them, they're so thin, probably kill my knees in one session.
Checkpoint pros (snakeskin/brown chillers) 10 - TTS
One Star Pro (gator skin blk/chillers/biz casual) 10 - TTS

Fastbreaks 9.5 and they fit me like a regs 10

Sweet, thanks a lot mate, much appreciated!
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: newguy on April 27, 2023, 10:41:05 AM
Idk if sb dunk hi's are cupsoles but they're comfortable on/off the board, honestly I'd love to wear "core" shoes but they're simply not as comfortable or protective imo. NB shoes impressed me when I tried them on too. I also really love the DC hiking shoes collab they did last year, wear them all the time.

Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ChompskyHonk on April 28, 2023, 07:43:03 AM
Idk if sb dunk hi's are cupsoles but they're comfortable on/off the board, honestly I'd love to wear "core" shoes but they're simply not as comfortable or protective imo. NB shoes impressed me when I tried them on too. I also really love the DC hiking shoes collab they did last year, wear them all the time.

sb dunks are definitely cupsoles. they're great and last forever. which dc hiking shoes did you get? navigators?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: GBLange on April 28, 2023, 09:54:57 AM
Etnies Faze

(https://i.ibb.co/845cLYX/my-11134207-7qul0-lfhy6tdb3fo9bd-webp.webp) (https://ibb.co/845cLYX)

(https://i.ibb.co/dW4YGGh/my-11134207-7qul0-lfhy6tdb4u8p78-webp-jpg.webp) (https://ibb.co/dW4YGGh)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on April 28, 2023, 09:57:03 AM
1010/808 for sure.
Listen to this man
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: eSK3 on April 28, 2023, 10:15:14 AM
1010, 808, 440, dunks(all not just sb), superstars, pro models, forums. Also Jordan’s 1-5 are all proven great skate shoes.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on April 28, 2023, 06:45:36 PM
Some good mid-sizd options: NB# 440, 508, 1010, 808, DC Manteca 4 & Lynx Zero, Es Silo SC & Quattro, Etnies Marana, Adidas Tyshawn (low and high), Emerica KSL G6 & Gamma G6, Etnies Joslin & Windrow, Nike SB Dunks & Force 58, Adidas Busenitz & Superstar

Big boy cups: DC Lynx OG, Clocker, Kalis 1 OG, Es Accel OG/Penny 2
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: disparatethoughts on April 28, 2023, 09:23:33 PM
440 his are the best shoe I've skated in recent years. Any other high tops that are just as good if not better?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: pops on April 29, 2023, 01:13:33 AM
I really like my KSL G6s now that they're broken in. 440 highs are also a new favorite.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: newguy on April 29, 2023, 03:19:47 AM
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Idk if sb dunk hi's are cupsoles but they're comfortable on/off the board, honestly I'd love to wear "core" shoes but they're simply not as comfortable or protective imo. NB shoes impressed me when I tried them on too. I also really love the DC hiking shoes collab they did last year, wear them all the time.
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sb dunks are definitely cupsoles. they're great and last forever. which dc hiking shoes did you get? navigators?

yeah, i got these. They actually skate really well too https://www.milk-store.com/en/products/pop-trading-co-x-dc-shoes-navigator
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DanRar009 on April 29, 2023, 03:27:06 AM
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1010/808 for sure.
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Listen to this man

Back this 100 percent. Skated both 1010 and 808 and can’t see myself buying anything else
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FUBAR on April 29, 2023, 07:05:05 AM
Im 47 and some shoes just pinch my feet in a weird way and make my pinky toe feel like it is going to fall off. DC Lynx Zero (I’ve had 3-4 pairs of these) and the KSL G6 do not do this to my feet. I’m looking at 1010s next but do have one more pair of KSLs to use up first. So maybe those.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on April 30, 2023, 04:21:55 PM
440 his are the best shoe I've skated in recent years. Any other high tops that are just as good if not better?

Adidas Forum Mid or High could contend but they're a stiffer sole & more padding than 440. Dunk Highs, Marana Mid (no longer made tho), Adidas new Superskate (don't know if it's any good yet)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: yourbreakfsat on April 30, 2023, 05:23:54 PM
Looking for a recommendation for a friend that's available in 7.5M (TTS). He skates a lot of flat ground and drops. Boardfeel isn't too much of a concern and impact protection is a big plus. I was thinking about some of the DC models (Manteca or Metric maybe?) but I don't have any experience with those shoes. I was thinking of New Balance Numeric as well.

For reference, this is his shoe after about 2-1/2 weeks (Vans Kyle Walker).

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/938266106701942824/1102388913437425724/PXL_20230430_235637947.jpg)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: LebowskisRug on April 30, 2023, 06:46:31 PM
Either of the Tiago, Adidas Forum, maybe The Spanky reissue? Vans durability isn't great and those seem to be really durable and the more expensive ones are often on sale.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on April 30, 2023, 07:50:28 PM
Looking for a recommendation for a friend that's available in 7.5M (TTS). He skates a lot of flat ground and drops. Boardfeel isn't too much of a concern and impact protection is a big plus. I was thinking about some of the DC models (Manteca or Metric maybe?) but I don't have any experience with those shoes. I was thinking of New Balance Numeric as well.

For reference, this is his shoe after about 2-1/2 weeks (Vans Kyle Walker).

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If he flips his board a lot on flatground or off drops, the Joslin or Marana models from Etnies last a longggg time, so those would be great suggestions.  I've skated both and flick my board a lot, so both have lasted me months if regular use
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: RossDailey on April 30, 2023, 08:01:30 PM
Has anyone skated the Brandon Westgate 508 from NB# ???

Curious for any feedback.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: yourbreakfsat on May 01, 2023, 09:57:25 AM
Either of the Tiago, Adidas Forum, maybe The Spanky reissue? Vans durability isn't great and those seem to be really durable and the more expensive ones are often on sale.

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If he flips his board a lot on flatground or off drops, the Joslin or Marana models from Etnies last a longggg time, so those would be great suggestions.  I've skated both and flick my board a lot, so both have lasted me months if regular use

Thanks for the recommendations, I'm leaning on the Etnies Joslins since they're on sale on the website but the NB Tiagos are also compelling.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FrenchSkater on May 01, 2023, 10:48:43 AM
Has anyone skated the Brandon Westgate 508 from NB# ???

Curious for any feedback.

I bought these almost about two months ago :

I've read quite a few negative reviews on it, saying it's not really a cupsole.. Honestly, I'm a super sensitive heel and back , this shoe protects me a lot ! The first session, you have to get used to the comfort which may seem strange, but afterwards, they are perfect ! I recommend them 100%! I'm curious to try a pair of New Balance that has a higher range, just the quality of the 508 is perfect, I dare not imagine the others.. I swear by New Balance now for protection !  :-*

And in terms of sturdiness, I've had them for almost two months, I skated regularly twice a week, sometimes 3, and a hole only appeared where I flick! And the cushioning is still there!
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ok on May 02, 2023, 07:44:48 AM
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Either of the Tiago, Adidas Forum, maybe The Spanky reissue? Vans durability isn't great and those seem to be really durable and the more expensive ones are often on sale.
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If he flips his board a lot on flatground or off drops, the Joslin or Marana models from Etnies last a longggg time, so those would be great suggestions.  I've skated both and flick my board a lot, so both have lasted me months if regular use
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Thanks for the recommendations, I'm leaning on the Etnies Joslins since they're on sale on the website but the NB Tiagos are also compelling.

1010 Tiago’s are polarizing in their fit, but the materials and the quality is best out rn, imo
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: disparatethoughts on May 04, 2023, 04:32:24 PM
I really like my KSL G6s now that they're broken in. 440 highs are also a new favorite.

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440 his are the best shoe I've skated in recent years. Any other high tops that are just as good if not better?
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Adidas Forum Mid or High could contend but they're a stiffer sole & more padding than 440. Dunk Highs, Marana Mid (no longer made tho), Adidas new Superskate (don't know if it's any good yet)

Thanks guys, much appreciated
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Violator on May 04, 2023, 05:38:49 PM
KSL G6 is just perfect.  Just started skating the Gamma G6 too and loving those so far  8)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ChompskyHonk on May 04, 2023, 10:17:48 PM
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Idk if sb dunk hi's are cupsoles but they're comfortable on/off the board, honestly I'd love to wear "core" shoes but they're simply not as comfortable or protective imo. NB shoes impressed me when I tried them on too. I also really love the DC hiking shoes collab they did last year, wear them all the time.
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sb dunks are definitely cupsoles. they're great and last forever. which dc hiking shoes did you get? navigators?
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yeah, i got these. They actually skate really well too https://www.milk-store.com/en/products/pop-trading-co-x-dc-shoes-navigator

dude I've been wanting those since they dropped and have had no luck trying to find them recently. if you're in the us, is shipping from that site expensive?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ChuckRamone on June 01, 2023, 09:31:58 PM
So far for cupsoles, I've skated the Ave Pros, which have a good balance between boardfeel and support. Toward the end of their lifespan they definitely start to feel less supportive, but maybe that just means it's time to retire them and not a fault of the shoe. Are they technically cupsoles? They're a sort of hybrid cup/vulc. I actually really like these for skating in and have skated quite a few pairs now.

Then I skated the Lakai Telford. They were nice in the beginning but the soles felt too thin after a while and skated basically like vulcs once the tread had worn down quite a bit. They were a bit painful in fact at that point, like there wasn't much separating my feet from my board.

After that I bought a pair of NB 1010s (my first corporate skate shoe purchase) because of all the rave reviews on Slap and elsewhere. I've tried skating in them a couple times now, including once today, but I just can't do it. They're too clunky for me. Maybe they skate better after skating in them a lot? However, I don't really have the patience for that. I've already worn them around for over a month but they still feel like moon boots to me when I try tricks. I don't get how people skate in these.

Gonna skate the Joslin 2s next and see how they feel.

The KSL G6s sound like they would work for me too based on this thread.

Edited to add this postscript: I actually bought another colorway (black) and material (suede with mesh) of the 1010s because they were on sale, and for some reason when I walk around in them they feel way more flexible and like they would have decent boardfeel. Maybe the other ones I have, the white suede, are just a stiffer and bulkier material? Even walking around in these black mesh ones feels different, and they look less beefy.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: rikki on June 01, 2023, 11:27:38 PM


Gonna skate the Joslin 2s next and see how they feel.



Interested to hear how they perform. Liked the original Joslins quite a bit, lately been loving the NB 440s.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FrenchSkater on June 02, 2023, 12:18:14 AM
Despite the hatred for this brand, I would like to know, Are the Cariuma Catiba pro considered Vulcs or a cupsole / vulc min ?

I wonder if they protect better than basic Vulcs..
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on June 02, 2023, 12:30:21 AM
Despite the hatred for this brand, I would like to know, Are the Cariuma Catiba pro considered Vulcs or a cupsole / vulc min ?

I wonder if they protect better than basic Vulcs..
Cariuma is considered ubershit.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Gray Imp Sausage Metal on June 02, 2023, 12:38:45 AM
Despite the hatred for this brand, I would like to know, Are the Cariuma Catiba pro considered Vulcs or a cupsole / vulc min ?

I wonder if they protect better than basic Vulcs..
just turn around now and run, run for the hills (and as far away from Cariuma as you can)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Krooked antihero on June 02, 2023, 02:09:53 AM
Despite the hatred for this brand, I would like to know, Are the Cariuma Catiba pro considered Vulcs or a cupsole / vulc min ?

I wonder if they protect better than basic Vulcs..
(https://cdn.sumally.com/data/product2/2/5dce9cd36b94a6df8c33d5a56418501d04783ec2_m.jpg)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Urtripping on June 02, 2023, 03:45:36 AM
Fastbreaks are good. Nylon needs shoe goo though
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ChuckRamone on June 03, 2023, 08:58:34 AM
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Gonna skate the Joslin 2s next and see how they feel.


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Interested to hear how they perform. Liked the original Joslins quite a bit, lately been loving the NB 440s.

Turns out I have the Joslin 1s. I thought I was getting the 2s but I got confused when buying them. The 1s are good though so far after a session.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on June 04, 2023, 01:37:55 AM
Despite the hatred for this brand, I would like to know, Are the Cariuma Catiba pro considered Vulcs or a cupsole / vulc min ?

I wonder if they protect better than basic Vulcs..
Don't waste your money on them, but they are vulcs
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: FROTHY on June 04, 2023, 06:11:09 AM
The Telford highs and NB 440 highs are very similar. I’m surprised more people don’t like the Telford here considering the popularity of the 440. Both are very thin, unstructured cupsoles. Flick is similarly vulc-like. Superglue is mandatory on both if you do flip tricks and need them to last until your next paycheck.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: skatebruh on June 04, 2023, 12:13:44 PM
I got the NB 808s and there is zero boardfeel. I think it's great because I can try anything and my feet won't hurt.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Deepern0ah on June 04, 2023, 11:18:45 PM
Recent experiences with cupsoles and problematic wide feet:
Vans AVE was too thin and fit maybe a half size small. Wasn't a fan.
Emerica Reynolds G6 felt bulky and had a weird pinch area near toes. Skated okay.
Nike sb Nyjah 2 I liked at first then after them getting wet they felt like they shrunk and killed my feet.
Adidas tyshawns killed my feet. Pinched horribly.
Emerica gamma G6 feel great but are a little loose. Probably need to cinch the laces down a little more. Comfy but not bulky.
NB# 440 are thin but feel and skate great. Not sure on durability yet.
Vans Crockett highs feel good but fit maybe half size up. Feel a little long. 
Vans Lizzie feel thin but great. Heel area is a bit slippery unless laced tight up top.
Emerica spanky will not break in for me. Pinched toes.
Emerica Romeros are great once broken in but super thin and pack out quick. However looks like New versions have a removable insole.
Nike SB Dunk low are pretty solid across the board.
Few more on deck to try out but at this point Emerica and NB# have seemed pretty reliable.
Curious on NB# 440 high, 808 & 1010; Emerica KSL G6, wino G6 slip cup & figgy G6.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: chillclinton87 on June 05, 2023, 05:08:52 AM
I got the NB 808s and there is zero boardfeel. I think it's great because I can try anything and my feet won't hurt.

hahaaa that made me laugh...they are stiff as fuck for sure! i've only been wearing them a little indoors and for some errands maybe once and they did not loosen up one bit i feel like. but i am with you- no board feel is no hurting feet  ;)

curious what colorway you got?

Mine are the white ones with the blue/ yellow accents. i guess suede would break in over time?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ok on June 05, 2023, 05:39:20 AM
I got the NB 808s and there is zero boardfeel. I think it's great because I can try anything and my feet won't hurt.

my preferred scenario
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on June 05, 2023, 06:04:37 AM
808 are the light.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: yourbreakfsat on June 05, 2023, 08:04:31 AM
Recent experiences with cupsoles and problematic wide feet:
Vans AVE was too thin and fit maybe a half size small. Wasn't a fan.
Emerica Reynolds G6 felt bulky and had a weird pinch area near toes. Skated okay.
Nike sb Nyjah 2 I liked at first then after them getting wet they felt like they shrunk and killed my feet.
Adidas tyshawns killed my feet. Pinched horribly.
Emerica gamma G6 feel great but are a little loose. Probably need to cinch the laces down a little more. Comfy but not bulky.
NB# 440 are thin but feel and skate great. Not sure on durability yet.
Vans Crockett highs feel good but fit maybe half size up. Feel a little long. 
Vans Lizzie feel thin but great. Heel area is a bit slippery unless laced tight up top.
Emerica spanky will not break in for me. Pinched toes.
Emerica Romeros are great once broken in but super thin and pack out quick. However looks like New versions have a removable insole.
Nike SB Dunk low are pretty solid across the board.
Few more on deck to try out but at this point Emerica and NB# have seemed pretty reliable.
Curious on NB# 440 high, 808 & 1010; Emerica KSL G6, wino G6 slip cup & figgy G6.

Vans Lizzies are vulcs
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: rikki on June 05, 2023, 09:19:34 AM
I got the NB 808s and there is zero boardfeel. I think it's great because I can try anything and my feet won't hurt.

LOL

Sounds like an old guy's shoe. Can't do with zero boardfeel though.

Re: NB 440: I'm fully hoping the next version (apparently there's a next gen in the works) will have a bit thicker sole/insole. The boardfeel is amazing and I can manage with the thin sole, but an evolution towards a more impact-protected version would be great. All in all it's one of my favorite shoes ever so far.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Fartknocker415 on June 05, 2023, 10:42:26 AM
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hahaaa that made me laugh...they are stiff as fuck for sure! i've only been wearing them a little indoors and for some errands maybe once and they did not loosen up one bit i feel like. but i am with you- no board feel is no hurting feet  ;)

curious what colorway you got?

Mine are the white ones with the blue/ yellow accents. i guess suede would break in over time?

after putting in some good sessions at this point i can say the shoe breaks in and the suede/leather should loosen up slightly but the sole stays stiff as fuck which is either good or bad depending on how you look at it. i will say they are def not bagging out, but feel more like a nice leather baseball mit around my foot. i dont really like working long shifts in them tho as the cushion is a little agressive and the slim fit doesnt really go well with 8-10 hours of standing around. but they are my favorite shoes for skating right now. the lack of boardfeel doesnt really bother me and really isnt as bad as everyone says. i got used to it super fast. i think since theyre so narrow and formfitting it just doesnt feel like clunky and maybe thats what ive experienced more in the last few cupsoles ive tried.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on June 05, 2023, 12:41:14 PM
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Recent experiences with cupsoles and problematic wide feet:
Vans AVE was too thin and fit maybe a half size small. Wasn't a fan.
Emerica Reynolds G6 felt bulky and had a weird pinch area near toes. Skated okay.
Nike sb Nyjah 2 I liked at first then after them getting wet they felt like they shrunk and killed my feet.
Adidas tyshawns killed my feet. Pinched horribly.
Emerica gamma G6 feel great but are a little loose. Probably need to cinch the laces down a little more. Comfy but not bulky.
NB# 440 are thin but feel and skate great. Not sure on durability yet.
Vans Crockett highs feel good but fit maybe half size up. Feel a little long. 
Vans Lizzie feel thin but great. Heel area is a bit slippery unless laced tight up top.
Emerica spanky will not break in for me. Pinched toes.
Emerica Romeros are great once broken in but super thin and pack out quick. However looks like New versions have a removable insole.
Nike SB Dunk low are pretty solid across the board.
Few more on deck to try out but at this point Emerica and NB# have seemed pretty reliable.
Curious on NB# 440 high, 808 & 1010; Emerica KSL G6, wino G6 slip cup & figgy G6.
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Vans Lizzies are vulcs trash.
Fixed it :)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: TheCrimsonShroud on June 05, 2023, 03:57:21 PM
Reebok Club Cs are unironically the best cupsoles I’ve skated. Board feel is comparatively solid and they’re nice and grippy. They’re also flexible, and a lot of them have an Ollie patch
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: GardenSkater77 on June 05, 2023, 05:13:33 PM
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Despite the hatred for this brand, I would like to know, Are the Cariuma Catiba pro considered Vulcs or a cupsole / vulc min ?

I wonder if they protect better than basic Vulcs..
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just turn around now and run, run for the hills (and as far away from Cariuma as you can)

1, 2 Mike V’s coming for you…
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Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Daydream on June 08, 2023, 05:12:32 PM
Want a pair of fastbreaks or as-1 but haven’t tried either on

Do fastbreaks fit the same as chuck 70’s? (Not ctas) 

..that’s all I have to compare to, as those fit big and I go down to a 12. (No 12.5 made in any of them, so have to be sure between a 12 and a 13)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ChuckRamone on June 12, 2023, 05:04:01 PM
Are there any NB cupsoles that have a little more boardfeel than the Tiagos? I tried the 1010s but they were too beefy for my liking, but I'm still curious what NB skate shoes are like otherwise.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: j....soy..... on June 12, 2023, 05:23:32 PM
440's are pretty thin no?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: SorryReallySorryDVD on June 12, 2023, 05:41:13 PM
I’ve had over 10 pairs of Lakai Atlantics in a row and I’m sticking with them. They always break in easy for me. Really good shape and one of the best feeling and looking toes. They’re always easy to find for $40. I just wish there was more variety in colorways.

I’ve never tried the 440, but the Atlantics seem comparable. And they remind me of the Nike FC Classic from awhile back, which I think is one of the best looking Nikes.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: GauchoAmigo on June 12, 2023, 06:45:24 PM
I'm sure this has been discussed already - and I know people have strong opinions about the és reboot - but I gotta say the accel slim is the best shoe I've tried in a while. Perfect amount of bulky-ness for me and super comfortable insole. Just my $0.02 after finally buying a pair.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on June 12, 2023, 10:45:12 PM
Are there any NB cupsoles that have a little more boardfeel than the Tiagos? I tried the 1010s but they were too beefy for my liking, but I'm still curious what NB skate shoes are like otherwise.
I would suggest 508, 440 are too thin for my taste but maybe is what you're looking for
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: rikki on June 12, 2023, 11:03:39 PM
Are there any NB cupsoles that have a little more boardfeel than the Tiagos? I tried the 1010s but they were too beefy for my liking, but I'm still curious what NB skate shoes are like otherwise.

The 440 has amazing boardfeel. I kid you not.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: OhioGuy on June 16, 2023, 06:49:55 PM
I kinda hate the 808s. 440s feel and skate better to me, but my knees and shins are bad so I go with the protection. I don't get way anyone would skate them if they don't have to, though. You can absolutely skate better in a lighter shoe IMHO.

440s are basically vulcs in the forefoot though.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on June 16, 2023, 11:32:10 PM
I kinda hate the 808s. 440s feel and skate better to me, but my knees and shins are bad so I go with the protection. I don't get way anyone would skate them if they don't have to, though. You can absolutely skate better in a lighter shoe IMHO.

440s are basically vulcs in the forefoot though.
808 works if you've been skating for a number of years
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: pops on June 17, 2023, 02:12:54 AM
I dont have any problem with 440s being so thin in forefoot but if I skate in any Vans vulc I cant skate more than half an hour. Not really a fan of 808 type of shoe even though I've been skating 20+ years. I would say I'm fine with Emerica cups, they have the perfect sturdiness for me
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on June 20, 2023, 06:00:03 PM
Nabbed a pair of the Forum low 84 ADVs, size 10 TTS - so far so good (haven't skated them yet) but the 'bulk' is what I wanted the Fastbreaks to be like and what I hope will be a nice broken in b-ball shoe.

They've got some 1010/808 chunk to them but having owned both of those you can tell these will break in faster (but probably wear out sooner) than either of the Tiagos.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: skunty on June 21, 2023, 02:48:46 PM
just read many pages and not sure I made any progress on my decision... the 440 high, the fastbreak, and the crocket highs - are they floppy around the ankle or have a bit of structure? And how does the structure of the dunk highs compare to blazer mids or tyshawns?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: OhioGuy on June 21, 2023, 02:51:08 PM
just read many pages and not sure I made any progress on my decision... the 440 high, the fastbreak, and the crocket highs - are they floppy around the ankle or have a bit of structure? And how does the structure of the dunk highs compare to blazer mids or tyshawns?
Can’t compare them to anything, but they have structure around the ankles. Not floppy at all. Cushioned and stiff.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: YeoWhattup on June 21, 2023, 04:34:21 PM
Nabbed a pair of the Forum low 84 ADVs, size 10 TTS - so far so good (haven't skated them yet) but the 'bulk' is what I wanted the Fastbreaks to be like and what I hope will be a nice broken in b-ball shoe.

They've got some 1010/808 chunk to them but having owned both of those you can tell these will break in faster (but probably wear out sooner) than either of the Tiagos.
I used to skate this shoe all the time, it has a soft spot in my heart. One of the best adidas shoes out rn
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: YeoWhattup on June 21, 2023, 04:35:44 PM
I know a lot of people have said this but I can’t recommend the 440 high enough
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: LebowskisRug on June 21, 2023, 08:01:02 PM
just read many pages and not sure I made any progress on my decision... the 440 high, the fastbreak, and the crocket highs - are they floppy around the ankle or have a bit of structure? And how does the structure of the dunk highs compare to blazer mids or tyshawns?

Crocket highs are floppy as shit once they break in. It's thin canvas with no structure up the ankle.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: disparatethoughts on June 21, 2023, 09:37:30 PM
Nabbed a pair of the Forum low 84 ADVs, size 10 TTS - so far so good (haven't skated them yet) but the 'bulk' is what I wanted the Fastbreaks to be like and what I hope will be a nice broken in b-ball shoe.

They've got some 1010/808 chunk to them but having owned both of those you can tell these will break in faster (but probably wear out sooner) than either of the Tiagos.

Fastbreaks are what got me into cupsoles but I like the 440 high more. Can't speak on the Crockett's.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: pops on June 21, 2023, 10:22:42 PM
I know a lot of people have said this but I can’t recommend the 440 high enough

This. One the best shoes out there imo.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Bror on June 22, 2023, 02:22:49 AM
Is there a big/noticeable diffrence between vulc & cupsoles on cushing? Only tried the tiago 1010s before.

Ive been on last resort for the last two years, really nice shoes but as they wear down they're feeling super thin.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on June 22, 2023, 02:27:32 AM
Is there a big/noticeable diffrence between vulc & cupsoles on cushing? Only tried the tiago 1010s before.

Ive been on last resort for the last two years, really nice shoes but as they wear down they're feeling super thin.
Day and night difference.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: skunty on June 22, 2023, 07:13:58 AM
for people who have tried both, between the fastbreak pro and the 440 high which would you say is more durable?
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: rocklobster on June 22, 2023, 11:09:51 AM
I'm sure this has been discussed already - and I know people have strong opinions about the és reboot - but I gotta say the accel slim is the best shoe I've tried in a while. Perfect amount of bulky-ness for me and super comfortable insole. Just my $0.02 after finally buying a pair.

Fuck yes, can't wait to get back on the Swift 1.5 after the current DC shoes die.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: skunty on June 22, 2023, 11:10:41 AM
this might be a better post for the sale gear thread, but familia skateshop has 440 high in cream/black and fastbreaks in all navy available on the cheap in several sizes. just got some 440s for $55 shipped
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ChuckRamone on June 26, 2023, 08:49:01 PM
The Joslins were okay at first but felt like they got worse somehow the more I skated them. The uppers felt very hard and like they never broke in, and the soles were also hard and stiff. Ended up changing to the KSL G6s before fully destroying the Joslins. So far the KLS G6s feel really nice. Good amount of support and they are breaking in well.

I have the NB 508s on deck and I've been wearing them around to break them in. Already they feel a little too thin for my taste. When I walk on stairs I can feel the corners of the steps with the soles of my feet which is probably not gonna translate to much support for skating but I'll have to see how they actually perform.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: pops on June 26, 2023, 09:40:12 PM
The Joslins were okay at first but felt like they got worse somehow the more I skated them. The uppers felt very hard and like they never broke in, and the soles were also hard and stiff. Ended up changing to the KSL G6s before fully destroying the Joslins. So far the KLS G6s feel really nice. Good amount of support and they are breaking in well.

I have the NB 508s on deck and I've been wearing them around to break them in. Already they feel a little too thin for my taste. When I walk on stairs I can feel the corners of the steps with the soles of my feet which is probably not gonna translate to much support for skating but I'll have to see how they actually perform.

KSL are a great shoe and they get better when they loosen up a bit.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on June 28, 2023, 10:03:43 AM
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The Joslins were okay at first but felt like they got worse somehow the more I skated them. The uppers felt very hard and like they never broke in, and the soles were also hard and stiff. Ended up changing to the KSL G6s before fully destroying the Joslins. So far the KLS G6s feel really nice. Good amount of support and they are breaking in well.

I have the NB 508s on deck and I've been wearing them around to break them in. Already they feel a little too thin for my taste. When I walk on stairs I can feel the corners of the steps with the soles of my feet which is probably not gonna translate to much support for skating but I'll have to see how they actually perform.
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KSL are were a great shoe and they get better when they loosen up a bit.

Fixed. Sad to see them go, they were great. Come on @EmericaTM .... keep them alive!
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: pops on June 28, 2023, 10:14:13 AM
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The Joslins were okay at first but felt like they got worse somehow the more I skated them. The uppers felt very hard and like they never broke in, and the soles were also hard and stiff. Ended up changing to the KSL G6s before fully destroying the Joslins. So far the KLS G6s feel really nice. Good amount of support and they are breaking in well.

I have the NB 508s on deck and I've been wearing them around to break them in. Already they feel a little too thin for my taste. When I walk on stairs I can feel the corners of the steps with the soles of my feet which is probably not gonna translate to much support for skating but I'll have to see how they actually perform.
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KSL are were a great shoe and they get better when they loosen up a bit.
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Fixed. Sad to see them go, they were great. Come on @EmericaTM .... keep them alive!

Yup, they should've kept them. I almost dont want to skate my pair anymore knowing these will be my last and only pair in a while. :(
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on June 28, 2023, 10:20:44 AM
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The Joslins were okay at first but felt like they got worse somehow the more I skated them. The uppers felt very hard and like they never broke in, and the soles were also hard and stiff. Ended up changing to the KSL G6s before fully destroying the Joslins. So far the KLS G6s feel really nice. Good amount of support and they are breaking in well.

I have the NB 508s on deck and I've been wearing them around to break them in. Already they feel a little too thin for my taste. When I walk on stairs I can feel the corners of the steps with the soles of my feet which is probably not gonna translate to much support for skating but I'll have to see how they actually perform.
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KSL are were a great shoe and they get better when they loosen up a bit.
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Fixed. Sad to see them go, they were great. Come on @EmericaTM .... keep them alive!
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Yup, they should've kept them. I almost dont want to skate my pair anymore knowing these will be my last and only pair in a while. :(

That's why I jumped ship to the Joslins. Better to ween yourself off the good stuff when you it's over.

Guess they didn't sell well enough but apparently the pillar still sell well...as if a Mid KSL wouldn't be the fucking bees knees.

The focus looks ok...but I can't stand looking down on special ed rubber toe caps.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: SlapTM on June 28, 2023, 11:26:49 AM
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The Joslins were okay at first but felt like they got worse somehow the more I skated them. The uppers felt very hard and like they never broke in, and the soles were also hard and stiff. Ended up changing to the KSL G6s before fully destroying the Joslins. So far the KLS G6s feel really nice. Good amount of support and they are breaking in well.

I have the NB 508s on deck and I've been wearing them around to break them in. Already they feel a little too thin for my taste. When I walk on stairs I can feel the corners of the steps with the soles of my feet which is probably not gonna translate to much support for skating but I'll have to see how they actually perform.
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KSL are were a great shoe and they get better when they loosen up a bit.
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Fixed. Sad to see them go, they were great. Come on @EmericaTM .... keep them alive!

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The Joslins were okay at first but felt like they got worse somehow the more I skated them. The uppers felt very hard and like they never broke in, and the soles were also hard and stiff. Ended up changing to the KSL G6s before fully destroying the Joslins. So far the KLS G6s feel really nice. Good amount of support and they are breaking in well.

I have the NB 508s on deck and I've been wearing them around to break them in. Already they feel a little too thin for my taste. When I walk on stairs I can feel the corners of the steps with the soles of my feet which is probably not gonna translate to much support for skating but I'll have to see how they actually perform.
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KSL are were a great shoe and they get better when they loosen up a bit.
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Fixed. Sad to see them go, they were great. Come on @EmericaTM .... keep them alive!
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Yup, they should've kept them. I almost dont want to skate my pair anymore knowing these will be my last and only pair in a while. :(

We have 2 new colorways of the KSL G6 dropping next month. The throwback colorway that was posted recently as well as a 20 years of This Is Skateboarding colorway.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: pops on June 30, 2023, 06:49:11 AM
 Lol, I dont know what I'm doing but I just got the Shanahan Metrics. Totally not my usual style but they looked rad and I liked the Legacy slims so I hope these will work.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: oyolar on June 30, 2023, 11:27:32 AM
The Emerica site has KSLs up. I’ve been ordering my Wino cup slips right from them too to get those sales numbers up.

https://emerica.com/collections/footwear/products/ksl-g6-black-red-beige-6102000132-006
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: handsclapanin on July 12, 2023, 08:13:50 AM
I can't say enough good things about the Etnies Joslin.
I'll be skating in these until they stop making them.
Current pair:
(https://i.imgur.com/JRH5tsTl.jpg?1)
And the 7 pairs before that:
(https://i.imgur.com/sJd0ewNl.jpg?1)
I just picked up another 3 pairs recently for $44 each on the etnies site. So I've got 9 pairs on deck.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fs1/2cab on September 05, 2023, 01:56:23 PM
I can't say enough good things about the Etnies Joslin.
I'll be skating in these until they stop making them.
Current pair:
(https://i.imgur.com/JRH5tsTl.jpg?1)
And the 7 pairs before that:
(https://i.imgur.com/sJd0ewNl.jpg?1)
I just picked up another 3 pairs recently for $44 each on the etnies site. So I've got 9 pairs on deck.

Okay, I think you are the expert I am looking for. I got my first pair of these shoes. It is not often that I try a shoe on and it immediately fits. These feel good so far. How long does it take to break them in?

Just for comparison, I wore nothing but Lakai Vulcs for the last 10 or so years. Had a few of the Atlantic's with the XLK cupsole but these Josl1n's feel very different.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: handsclapanin on September 05, 2023, 03:59:25 PM
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I can't say enough good things about the Etnies Joslin.
I'll be skating in these until they stop making them.
Current pair:
(https://i.imgur.com/JRH5tsTl.jpg?1)
And the 7 pairs before that:
(https://i.imgur.com/sJd0ewNl.jpg?1)
I just picked up another 3 pairs recently for $44 each on the etnies site. So I've got 9 pairs on deck.
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Okay, I think you are the expert I am looking for. I got my first pair of these shoes. It is not often that I try a shoe on and it immediately fits. These feel good so far. How long does it take to break them in?

Just for comparison, I wore nothing but Lakai Vulcs for the last 10 or so years. Had a few of the Atlantic's with the XLK cupsole but these Josl1n's feel very different.

The same thing happened to me the first time I tried a pair of these. They just fit my foot perfect.
I usually wear them to work for a couple weeks to break them in. Then the first couple sessions, they are still pretty stiff. But I like that. I want my shoes to feel like a boot and to feel protected.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on September 05, 2023, 05:02:13 PM
I can't say enough good things about the Etnies Joslin.
I'll be skating in these until they stop making them.
Current pair:
(https://i.imgur.com/JRH5tsTl.jpg?1)
And the 7 pairs before that:
(https://i.imgur.com/sJd0ewNl.jpg?1)
I just picked up another 3 pairs recently for $44 each on the etnies site. So I've got 9 pairs on deck.

What's wrong with all this worn shoes? No ollie holes/wear visible, and with that michelen grip...are the soles totally worn?

Just curious, I love the shoe.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fs1/2cab on September 06, 2023, 01:24:48 PM
Anyone had the Etnies Veer, Joslin and Marana? Do they all fit the same way or are there some differences? Differences as in toe shape and ankle padding for example.

Walked through the neighborhood with the Joslin's today.
Can't remember the last time I could do that without foot/ankle pain afterwards.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on September 06, 2023, 03:22:24 PM
Anyone had the Etnies Veer, Joslin and Marana? Do they all fit the same way or are there some differences? Differences as in toe shape and ankle padding for example.

Walked through the neighborhood with the Joslin's today.
Can't remember the last time I could do that without foot/ankle pain afterwards.

I mostly skate etnies Michelin cups, so I can chime in here.

All 3 should fit you in the same size. For me I had to 0.5 up to 11.5 in all three from my usual 11. 11.5 in all three fit comfortably and as expected (not too small or too big inside). I will say that Veer was not as padded and form fitting as the other two. This becomes more noticeable the longer you wear them.

Veer: kind of like a Marana meets a Joslin but not as padded as either of those two. The sole is deceptively thicker in the heel on the Veer than the Marana/Joslin. So your heel sits slightly higher in the Veer's back portion compared to Joslin and Marana. Boardfeel is there but for me, felt like less boardfeel but deceptively thinner feeling than Joslin/Marana. Kinda odd to describe but dull in boardfeel, in spite of feeling thin enough for it, while also being decently thick.

Durability on the Veer is mid. Not as good as the other two. Lots of stitched panels, which look great and feel great for structure, but some can rip kinda easily. Needs superglue/shoe goo.

I had to crank the laces down more and more the longer I wore/skated the Veer.

In summary, it's a "diet" modern mix of Joslin and Marana that is quality-wise more budget/affordable than the premium Etnies Michelin models, while still being adequate for skating.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ambiguousclarity on September 06, 2023, 08:39:14 PM
I bought a pair of Maranas recently. I was keen to try them; however, had to return them as they're too narrow for my feet. Currently skating the Tyshawn's, which fit well enough and feel mostly good to skate. I could probably do with a half size up, but 13.5s aren't available in Oz. I was considering trying the Joslins. If they're as narrow as the Maranas, I give them a miss.

Anyone had the Etnies Veer, Joslin and Marana? Do they all fit the same way or are there some differences? Differences as in toe shape and ankle padding for example.

Walked through the neighborhood with the Joslin's today.
Can't remember the last time I could do that without foot/ankle pain afterwards.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on September 06, 2023, 09:22:30 PM
All this lately Etnies talk in here got me kinda wanting some Joslins... Found those creamy white ones with small wolverine logo for a decent price but ofc I don't need shoes but you know how it goes...
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Turtle Boy on September 07, 2023, 12:57:27 AM
I got the white Josl1n 6 months ago and started to skate them 7 sessions ago. The first 3 or 4 sessions weren't too nice due to boardfeel, but now it's getting really good. They are really comfy and durable and the Michelin Sole is one of the best Sole you can find on a skateboard shoe right now.
Also you can use nail polish remover to get rid of the wolverine/Monter logo, it looks way cleaner without it.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Turtle Boy on September 07, 2023, 01:02:58 AM
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I can't say enough good things about the Etnies Joslin.
I'll be skating in these until they stop making them.
Current pair:
(https://i.imgur.com/JRH5tsTl.jpg?1)
And the 7 pairs before that:
(https://i.imgur.com/sJd0ewNl.jpg?1)
I just picked up another 3 pairs recently for $44 each on the etnies site. So I've got 9 pairs on deck.
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Okay, I think you are the expert I am looking for. I got my first pair of these shoes. It is not often that I try a shoe on and it immediately fits. These feel good so far. How long does it take to break them in?

Just for comparison, I wore nothing but Lakai Vulcs for the last 10 or so years. Had a few of the Atlantic's with the XLK cupsole but these Josl1n's feel very different.
For me it's around 4-5 sessions. Like 10 hours of skating to get a good boardfeel.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fs1/2cab on September 07, 2023, 01:20:10 AM
Thanks ya all pals.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: marcusbutler on September 07, 2023, 02:10:07 AM
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I can't say enough good things about the Etnies Joslin.
I'll be skating in these until they stop making them.
Current pair:
(https://i.imgur.com/JRH5tsTl.jpg?1)
And the 7 pairs before that:
(https://i.imgur.com/sJd0ewNl.jpg?1)
I just picked up another 3 pairs recently for $44 each on the etnies site. So I've got 9 pairs on deck.
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Okay, I think you are the expert I am looking for. I got my first pair of these shoes. It is not often that I try a shoe on and it immediately fits. These feel good so far. How long does it take to break them in?

Just for comparison, I wore nothing but Lakai Vulcs for the last 10 or so years. Had a few of the Atlantic's with the XLK cupsole but these Josl1n's feel very different.
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For me it's around 4-5 sessions. Like 10 hours of skating to get a good boardfeel.

Hows the flick in these? About 4-5 years ago I tried some etnies I found at ross. They looked like the windrow. And they were slippery and the flick wasn't there. Been on the NB 440's for a bit now but they are hard to come by. At least in the color way that I want.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on September 07, 2023, 02:54:48 AM
Joslin flick well. They grip and rip! That rubber grips hard but releases well. The shape of the toe panel is firm so you won't have mushy flick. You'll get a consistent flick for a long time.

It takes getting used to if you've never had them before but I love it. It's reliable and you never really get much of that "new Vans flick on new grip" feel where it sticks to your shoe unnecessarily
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Richard Skidder on September 07, 2023, 03:44:33 AM
I got the white Josl1n 6 months ago and started to skate them 7 sessions ago. The first 3 or 4 sessions weren't too nice due to boardfeel, but now it's getting really good. They are really comfy and durable and the Michelin Sole is one of the best Sole you can find on a skateboard shoe right now.
Also you can use nail polish remover to get rid of the wolverine/Monter logo, it looks way cleaner without it.

@Turtle Boy do you have a pic of the shoe with the logo removed? I’d like to see how it turned out.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: rocklobster on September 07, 2023, 07:49:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKaZzB4vlAs&ab_channel=BenDegros

For anyone looking to cop some Joslins or Maranas, I agree on the Maranas being 0.25 size too small and the lack of stretch was squishing my feet for close to a month of (mostly) walking and (4 sessions) of skating. Very long break in time but they kept their shape and Michelin sole was really durable.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on September 07, 2023, 08:05:17 PM
That's why the consensus is go 0.5 up in Marana and Joslin for most people. That toe cap on the Marana needs some walking and stretching to mold and become comfortable.

I've skated at least 10 pairs and every time I'd walk, stretch by hand, and massage that toe box so they were perfect to skate.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Turtle Boy on September 08, 2023, 03:35:55 AM
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I got the white Josl1n 6 months ago and started to skate them 7 sessions ago. The first 3 or 4 sessions weren't too nice due to boardfeel, but now it's getting really good. They are really comfy and durable and the Michelin Sole is one of the best Sole you can find on a skateboard shoe right now.
Also you can use nail polish remover to get rid of the wolverine/Monter logo, it looks way cleaner without it.
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@Turtle Boy do you have a pic of the shoe with the logo removed? I’d like to see how it turned out.
(http://http//ibb.co/sw3v1cs)

(https://i.ibb.co/sw3v1cs/20230908-123239.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sw3v1cs)

The shoes are a bit dirty but you get the idea.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: OhioGuy on September 08, 2023, 04:06:23 AM
I’m having shoe madness. I want to try some wide-ish size 14s with a cushioned forefoot, nothing thin like the 440s. I don’t care about board feel.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ok on September 08, 2023, 07:00:30 AM
I’m having shoe madness. I want to try some wide-ish size 14s with a cushioned forefoot, nothing thin like the 440s. I don’t care about board feel.

1010s. the quality is awesome.

i haven’t had 808s, when i get over myself, i’ll get either the 808s/1010s, for those days when the feet are dying.
i wear straight leg pants, maybe a size up, and both of these shoes seem like a better look on someone 15 years younger (that person would still be old btw), than i.
the quality, the comfort of the 1010 was dope. i started skating dunks and got stuck on those, and they are decent too, slightly less bulky, fit the pants better, but there is some aesthetic baggage with those for certain. for me.
if you truly don’t care about looks there are plenty of these folks voting for the joslin’s.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Richard Skidder on September 08, 2023, 10:30:07 AM
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I got the white Josl1n 6 months ago and started to skate them 7 sessions ago. The first 3 or 4 sessions weren't too nice due to boardfeel, but now it's getting really good. They are really comfy and durable and the Michelin Sole is one of the best Sole you can find on a skateboard shoe right now.
Also you can use nail polish remover to get rid of the wolverine/Monter logo, it looks way cleaner without it.
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@Turtle Boy do you have a pic of the shoe with the logo removed? I’d like to see how it turned out.
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(http://http//ibb.co/sw3v1cs)

(https://i.ibb.co/sw3v1cs/20230908-123239.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sw3v1cs)

The shoes are a bit dirty but you get the idea.

Looks way better, next time I get a pair of these I’m definitely going to try this. Thanks for the photo @Turtle Boy
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: handsclapanin on September 08, 2023, 01:10:43 PM
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Anyone had the Etnies Veer, Joslin and Marana? Do they all fit the same way or are there some differences? Differences as in toe shape and ankle padding for example.

Walked through the neighborhood with the Joslin's today.
Can't remember the last time I could do that without foot/ankle pain afterwards.
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I mostly skate etnies Michelin cups, so I can chime in here.

All 3 should fit you in the same size. For me I had to 0.5 up to 11.5 in all three from my usual 11. 11.5 in all three fit comfortably and as expected (not too small or too big inside). I will say that Veer was not as padded and form fitting as the other two. This becomes more noticeable the longer you wear them.

Veer: kind of like a Marana meets a Joslin but not as padded as either of those two. The sole is deceptively thicker in the heel on the Veer than the Marana/Joslin. So your heel sits slightly higher in the Veer's back portion compared to Joslin and Marana. Boardfeel is there but for me, felt like less boardfeel but deceptively thinner feeling than Joslin/Marana. Kinda odd to describe but dull in boardfeel, in spite of feeling thin enough for it, while also being decently thick.

Durability on the Veer is mid. Not as good as the other two. Lots of stitched panels, which look great and feel great for structure, but some can rip kinda easily. Needs superglue/shoe goo.

I had to crank the laces down more and more the longer I wore/skated the Veer.

In summary, it's a "diet" modern mix of Joslin and Marana that is quality-wise more budget/affordable than the premium Etnies Michelin models, while still being adequate for skating.

Haven't tried the Veer. But I've had both the Joslin and Marana. The sole may be the same, but besides that they are very different. The Joslin is way more pointy. The Marana is a very round toebox. My flip tricks really suffered with it. The ankle opening seems way bigger on the Marana. I kept having to crank the laces and they still felt loose. There are no tongue straps in the Marana, and it needs some. I got 2 pairs of Marana's cheap to try out. 1 pair is only half way skated and I gave up on them. I hoping to unload the 2nd pair somewhere.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: handsclapanin on September 08, 2023, 01:22:16 PM
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I can't say enough good things about the Etnies Joslin.
I'll be skating in these until they stop making them.

I just picked up another 3 pairs recently for $44 each on the etnies site. So I've got 9 pairs on deck.
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What's wrong with all this worn shoes? No ollie holes/wear visible, and with that michelen grip...are the soles totally worn?

Just curious, I love the shoe.

I've yet to get an ollie hole all the way through in any of my Joslins. I'll tear up the collar of the shoe before that. The reason they all get retired for me is because of the sole balding. I just finished up this tan pair. Picture below. Once the sole starts getting smooth like that, my feet will be more sore than usual after a day of skating. It usually happens after 2 months of skating. If I was still young and broke (financially) I could totally make them last longer. But I'm not. I'm old and broke (physically).


(https://i.imgur.com/aoHFOeil.jpg)
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fs1/2cab on September 09, 2023, 02:55:15 AM
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I can't say enough good things about the Etnies Joslin.
I'll be skating in these until they stop making them.

I just picked up another 3 pairs recently for $44 each on the etnies site. So I've got 9 pairs on deck.
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What's wrong with all this worn shoes? No ollie holes/wear visible, and with that michelen grip...are the soles totally worn?

Just curious, I love the shoe.
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I've yet to get an ollie hole all the way through in any of my Joslins. I'll tear up the collar of the shoe before that. The reason they all get retired for me is because of the sole balding. I just finished up this tan pair. Picture below. Once the sole starts getting smooth like that, my feet will be more sore than usual after a day of skating. It usually happens after 2 months of skating. If I was still young and broke (financially) I could totally make them last longer. But I'm not. I'm old and broke (physically).


(https://i.imgur.com/aoHFOeil.jpg)

How often were you skating in those two months? Every day? I thought the Michelin sole would hold up for a longer time to be honest.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: handsclapanin on September 09, 2023, 06:10:58 AM
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I can't say enough good things about the Etnies Joslin.
I'll be skating in these until they stop making them.

I just picked up another 3 pairs recently for $44 each on the etnies site. So I've got 9 pairs on deck.
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What's wrong with all this worn shoes? No ollie holes/wear visible, and with that michelen grip...are the soles totally worn?

Just curious, I love the shoe.
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I've yet to get an ollie hole all the way through in any of my Joslins. I'll tear up the collar of the shoe before that. The reason they all get retired for me is because of the sole balding. I just finished up this tan pair. Picture below. Once the sole starts getting smooth like that, my feet will be more sore than usual after a day of skating. It usually happens after 2 months of skating. If I was still young and broke (financially) I could totally make them last longer. But I'm not. I'm old and broke (physically).


(https://i.imgur.com/aoHFOeil.jpg)
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How often were you skating in those two months? Every day? I thought the Michelin sole would hold up for a longer time to be honest.
3 - 4 times a week
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on September 09, 2023, 08:31:07 PM
A tip for the Michelin soles to extend their life when they're almost done. When the sole is starting to smooth like above (which honestly takes a solid ~2 months at leastto get like that with regular skating) is to swap in a new insole from another Joslin/Marana to rejuvenate the shoe for its last week or so and then swap back to the shoe you took it fom to start skating those. This makes the sole feel less thin since the insole compensates for the thinning rubber.

I've done this trick when rotating between Marana/Joslin and Joslin/Joslin when I wanna break in my second shoe but squeeze life out of the first one. Its helped break in the second shoe better and make the current shoe last longer
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fs1/2cab on September 21, 2023, 11:39:56 AM
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I can't say enough good things about the Etnies Joslin.
I'll be skating in these until they stop making them.
Current pair:
(https://i.imgur.com/JRH5tsTl.jpg?1)
And the 7 pairs before that:
(https://i.imgur.com/sJd0ewNl.jpg?1)
I just picked up another 3 pairs recently for $44 each on the etnies site. So I've got 9 pairs on deck.
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Okay, I think you are the expert I am looking for. I got my first pair of these shoes. It is not often that I try a shoe on and it immediately fits. These feel good so far. How long does it take to break them in?

Just for comparison, I wore nothing but Lakai Vulcs for the last 10 or so years. Had a few of the Atlantic's with the XLK cupsole but these Josl1n's feel very different.
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For me it's around 4-5 sessions. Like 10 hours of skating to get a good boardfeel.

Just had my first real session in the Josl1n's. Took me an hour to get used to the feel of them because I was on thin vulc shoes the last 10+ years. Skated for 3 hours non stop, mostly flat and a bit of banks and flatrail. Bailed a lot of things and landed in strange positions but my feet always felt secured. And the best thing, they don't hurt now. The shoes still feel a bit too stiff for my liking, maybe it will be better the next sessions. But so far, I am impressed.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on September 21, 2023, 12:07:14 PM
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I can't say enough good things about the Etnies Joslin.
I'll be skating in these until they stop making them.
Current pair:
(https://i.imgur.com/JRH5tsTl.jpg?1)
And the 7 pairs before that:
(https://i.imgur.com/sJd0ewNl.jpg?1)
I just picked up another 3 pairs recently for $44 each on the etnies site. So I've got 9 pairs on deck.
[close]

Okay, I think you are the expert I am looking for. I got my first pair of these shoes. It is not often that I try a shoe on and it immediately fits. These feel good so far. How long does it take to break them in?

Just for comparison, I wore nothing but Lakai Vulcs for the last 10 or so years. Had a few of the Atlantic's with the XLK cupsole but these Josl1n's feel very different.
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For me it's around 4-5 sessions. Like 10 hours of skating to get a good boardfeel.
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Just had my first real session in the Josl1n's. Took me an hour to get used to the feel of them because I was on thin vulc shoes the last 10+ years. Skated for 3 hours non stop, mostly flat and a bit of banks and flatrail. Bailed a lot of things and landed in strange positions but my feet always felt secured. And the best thing, they don't hurt now. The shoes still feel a bit too stiff for my liking, maybe it will be better the next sessions. But so far, I am impressed.

This is why I (wore) wear any new skate shoe for a week minimum prior to skating, even if it's just around the house (new shoes only).

Skating new shoes sucks.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fs1/2cab on September 21, 2023, 01:18:00 PM
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I can't say enough good things about the Etnies Joslin.
I'll be skating in these until they stop making them.
Current pair:
(https://i.imgur.com/JRH5tsTl.jpg?1)
And the 7 pairs before that:
(https://i.imgur.com/sJd0ewNl.jpg?1)
I just picked up another 3 pairs recently for $44 each on the etnies site. So I've got 9 pairs on deck.
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Okay, I think you are the expert I am looking for. I got my first pair of these shoes. It is not often that I try a shoe on and it immediately fits. These feel good so far. How long does it take to break them in?

Just for comparison, I wore nothing but Lakai Vulcs for the last 10 or so years. Had a few of the Atlantic's with the XLK cupsole but these Josl1n's feel very different.
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For me it's around 4-5 sessions. Like 10 hours of skating to get a good boardfeel.
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Just had my first real session in the Josl1n's. Took me an hour to get used to the feel of them because I was on thin vulc shoes the last 10+ years. Skated for 3 hours non stop, mostly flat and a bit of banks and flatrail. Bailed a lot of things and landed in strange positions but my feet always felt secured. And the best thing, they don't hurt now. The shoes still feel a bit too stiff for my liking, maybe it will be better the next sessions. But so far, I am impressed.
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This is why I (wore) wear any new skate shoe for a week minimum prior to skating, even if it's just around the house (new shoes only).

Skating new shoes sucks.

I wore these shoes in my apartment and just walking outside for 2 hours, but yeah. You are right. What I forgot to mention. I found the stock insole of the Josl1n a bit too thick and I replaced it with a thinner one. Might try some FP 5mm flat ones in there.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fs1/2cab on October 05, 2023, 01:10:28 PM
Is it possible to make a cupsole shoe a tiny bit longer?
Like 3mm? It seems like my left (back) foot is 3mm longer as my right (front) foot. If I size up half a size, the shoe feels way too long on my right foot.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Ok on October 05, 2023, 05:03:28 PM
Is it possible to make a cupsole shoe a tiny bit longer?
Like 3mm? It seems like my left (back) foot is 3mm longer as my right (front) foot. If I size up half a size, the shoe feels way too long on my right foot.

i crammed my feet into cleats, into skate shoes, cycling shoes, etc. when i bought fancy boots i bought them in a small size.
looking back….i really don’t know how i got started on this. i never had some catastrophic slam to both shoes ejecting or anything, never had a shoe fly off. i’ve got narrow heels. most shoes slip in the back. i, somewhere in my late 30s, figured out that it’s better to have heel slip, than crunched toes. i promise. don’t do this to yourself. please. wear the bigger shoes. you’ll hate it. it will feel freaking gross.
and then it will not.
no more toe prisons
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Paperclip20 on October 06, 2023, 08:19:42 AM
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Is it possible to make a cupsole shoe a tiny bit longer?
Like 3mm? It seems like my left (back) foot is 3mm longer as my right (front) foot. If I size up half a size, the shoe feels way too long on my right foot.
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i crammed my feet into cleats, into skate shoes, cycling shoes, etc. when i bought fancy boots i bought them in a small size.
looking back….i really don’t know how i got started on this. i never had some catastrophic slam to both shoes ejecting or anything, never had a shoe fly off. i’ve got narrow heels. most shoes slip in the back. i, somewhere in my late 30s, figured out that it’s better to have heel slip, than crunched toes. i promise. don’t do this to yourself. please. wear the bigger shoes. you’ll hate it. it will feel freaking gross.
and then it will not.
no more toe prisons

Seconding this. You get used to it and i'm skating better than ever with less pain.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: ChompskyHonk on October 09, 2023, 09:35:35 AM
after skating the 808s for the past 2 months I can say that they only get better with time. the first half a month to a full month they felt insanely stiff and narrow, but once they really got broken in they've become the most comfortable shoes I've ever skated. the boardfeel is more than enough for what I skate and the support is unmatched. my only complaint is that the soles wear down sorta quickly but I still haven't worn any holes into the upper. aside from the durability of the outsole I couldn't recommend them enough if you don't mind a longer than average break-in period. I definitely see why people stand by new balance so loyally now
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: OhioGuy on October 09, 2023, 09:38:29 AM
Anyone know how the Forum Low ADV compares to SB Dunks? I’m on a quest to find retro basketball inspired skate shoes with thick soles.

I love the New Balance 480 cause the forefoot isn’t thinned out. I know SB Dunks have less padding for board feel. So I’m hoping Forums have more. I own some Fastbreak Pros and they’re basically vulcs on the forefoot like the NB 440s.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Gary Bucket on October 09, 2023, 10:51:05 AM
Anyone know how the Forum Low ADV compares to SB Dunks? I’m on a quest to find retro basketball inspired skate shoes with thick soles.

I love the New Balance 480 cause the forefoot isn’t thinned out. I know SB Dunks have less padding for board feel. So I’m hoping Forums have more. I own some Fastbreak Pros and they’re basically vulcs on the forefoot like the NB 440s.

84 ADVs are definitely thicker and more padded than Dunks in every way. Same fit width wise more or less and TTS. Leather ones break in faster/more IMO but after a couple sessions they feel exactly like a bulkier dunk so youre right on the money. Lotta clearout sales right now, you wont be dissapointed ordering them
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on October 09, 2023, 11:00:08 AM
Anyone know how the Forum Low ADV compares to SB Dunks? I’m on a quest to find retro basketball inspired skate shoes with thick soles.

I love the New Balance 480 cause the forefoot isn’t thinned out. I know SB Dunks have less padding for board feel. So I’m hoping Forums have more. I own some Fastbreak Pros and they’re basically vulcs on the forefoot like the NB 440s.

The forum advs are so much chunkier than the Fastbreak pros it's not funny...fastbreaks went vulc 2nd session (still an awesome shoe tho); I don't skate dunks so can't compare.

ADVs are what I wanted for an 80s bball inspired cup - I'd say they fit nicely between the fastbreak and a 1010/808
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: OhioGuy on October 09, 2023, 11:00:36 AM
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Anyone know how the Forum Low ADV compares to SB Dunks? I’m on a quest to find retro basketball inspired skate shoes with thick soles.

I love the New Balance 480 cause the forefoot isn’t thinned out. I know SB Dunks have less padding for board feel. So I’m hoping Forums have more. I own some Fastbreak Pros and they’re basically vulcs on the forefoot like the NB 440s.
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84 ADVs are definitely thicker and more padded than Dunks in every way. Same fit width wise more or less and TTS. Leather ones break in faster/more IMO but after a couple sessions they feel exactly like a bulkier dunk so youre right on the money. Lotta clearout sales right now, you wont be dissapointed ordering them
Thanks! 🙏🏾

I order the white/cream ones. Will probably get some more just to have something if I can’t get 480s, or just to switch it up.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: OhioGuy on October 09, 2023, 11:04:18 AM
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Anyone know how the Forum Low ADV compares to SB Dunks? I’m on a quest to find retro basketball inspired skate shoes with thick soles.

I love the New Balance 480 cause the forefoot isn’t thinned out. I know SB Dunks have less padding for board feel. So I’m hoping Forums have more. I own some Fastbreak Pros and they’re basically vulcs on the forefoot like the NB 440s.
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The forum advs are so much chunkier than the Fastbreak pros it's not funny...fastbreaks went vulc 2nd session (still an awesome shoe tho); I don't skate dunks so can't compare.

ADVs are what I wanted for an 80s bball inspired cup - I'd say they fit nicely between the fastbreak and a 1010/808
Nice. I have the 808s, they take forever to break in snd run a little small. So I’m sure the Forum Lows will fit me better.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on October 09, 2023, 11:43:54 AM
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Anyone know how the Forum Low ADV compares to SB Dunks? I’m on a quest to find retro basketball inspired skate shoes with thick soles.

I love the New Balance 480 cause the forefoot isn’t thinned out. I know SB Dunks have less padding for board feel. So I’m hoping Forums have more. I own some Fastbreak Pros and they’re basically vulcs on the forefoot like the NB 440s.
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The forum advs are so much chunkier than the Fastbreak pros it's not funny...fastbreaks went vulc 2nd session (still an awesome shoe tho); I don't skate dunks so can't compare.

ADVs are what I wanted for an 80s bball inspired cup - I'd say they fit nicely between the fastbreak and a 1010/808
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Nice. I have the 808s, they take forever to break in snd run a little small. So I’m sure the Forum Lows will fit me better.


the ADVs fit true to size, I could not find a size in any 1010 or 808 that fit comfortably (9.5 too small, 10 too small, 10.5 major heel slipp/too big); they are no way as stiff as the tiagos.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Hevonen on October 10, 2023, 03:51:55 AM
Are nyjah 3 zoom shoes any good? Saw them on sale for like 30$ and was thinking maybe I want to try something more comfortable than vulcs. Never seen them live and I'm sure they look as awful in person as in pics but don't really care about that right now
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on October 10, 2023, 04:10:35 AM
Are nyjah 3 zoom shoes any good? Saw them on sale for like 30$ and was thinking maybe I want to try something more comfortable than vulcs. Never seen them live and I'm sure they look as awful in person as in pics but don't really care about that right now
They don't look that bad in person, could be worse.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on October 10, 2023, 07:05:18 AM
Are nyjah 3 zoom shoes any good? Saw them on sale for like 30$ and was thinking maybe I want to try something more comfortable than vulcs. Never seen them live and I'm sure they look as awful in person as in pics but don't really care about that right now

They feel like a proper, gym trainer and if you don’t mind that look, it’s a great shoe; broken in out of the box, grippy, lost of cushioning in the heel/really comfy, upper is very accommodating for wide feet and it’s the most breathable shoe I’ve ever worn since the whole upper is essentially a mesh.

At that price, depending on colorway, it’s a steal.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: GBLange on October 12, 2023, 09:08:12 AM
Are nyjah 3 zoom shoes any good? Saw them on sale for like 30$ and was thinking maybe I want to try something more comfortable than vulcs. Never seen them live and I'm sure they look as awful in person as in pics but don't really care about that right now

$30? that's a straight buy for me
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on October 12, 2023, 09:18:15 AM
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Are nyjah 3 zoom shoes any good? Saw them on sale for like 30$ and was thinking maybe I want to try something more comfortable than vulcs. Never seen them live and I'm sure they look as awful in person as in pics but don't really care about that right now
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$30? that's a straight buy for me
Saw the black/white ones for €40 with free shipping within UE
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fs1/2cab on October 26, 2023, 12:25:18 PM
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Is it possible to make a cupsole shoe a tiny bit longer?
Like 3mm? It seems like my left (back) foot is 3mm longer as my right (front) foot. If I size up half a size, the shoe feels way too long on my right foot.
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i crammed my feet into cleats, into skate shoes, cycling shoes, etc. when i bought fancy boots i bought them in a small size.
looking back….i really don’t know how i got started on this. i never had some catastrophic slam to both shoes ejecting or anything, never had a shoe fly off. i’ve got narrow heels. most shoes slip in the back. i, somewhere in my late 30s, figured out that it’s better to have heel slip, than crunched toes. i promise. don’t do this to yourself. please. wear the bigger shoes. you’ll hate it. it will feel freaking gross.
and then it will not.
no more toe prisons

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Seconding this. You get used to it and i'm skating better than ever with less pain.

Got some Josl1n's in a US 8 which would be half a size up for me, but maybe I squeezed my feet into too tight shoes for a very long time. I honestly don't know at this point. I had a lot of time to think about stuff. And both of you guys are right, although it is hard for me to accept that. And yeah, it feels gross and I kinda hate it. But my heel doesn't hurt now. Maybe my feet heal over time and I feel less pain overall. I don't know and I currently don’t know when I can skate the next time. Just had a small surgery in my left hip and the stitches stay in there for at least 3 more weeks. The shoes still feel like I have too much space in front of the shoes, pretty much a thumbs width (which a lot of people suggest for a normal toe space) but I am just not used to so much toe room. I will see how it feels in a few weeks. And a major shoutout to @DarkPools who was very friendly and helpful regarding shoe questions. Thanks slap pals.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: jsettle on February 03, 2024, 07:26:35 AM
Anyone skated the accel slim mids as of recently. I am tempted to get a couple pairs to skate since they are on sale for 35 bucks. I have an older pair from about 6 yrs ago i wore as chillers that arent too bad. I guess the newer ones have tongue centering straps and the sti energy insole. Kind of want to skate a cupsole that's not too thick thats a mid and the old pair i have just hug my foot perfectly. Hoping someone has some info on them...good or bad
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: oyolar on February 03, 2024, 10:57:11 PM
Accel Slims in general here seem to get mixed reviews so it seems like if they work for you, you really like them, if they don't, then they don't. It seems very individual vs. a general big picture sentiment. So in my opinion, if you're interested and they're $35, fuck it - get a pair or two.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on February 03, 2024, 11:55:32 PM
eS aren't worthy to spend $35 imo
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: fs1/2cab on February 04, 2024, 04:51:06 AM
Accel Slims in general here seem to get mixed reviews so it seems like if they work for you, you really like them, if they don't, then they don't. It seems very individual vs. a general big picture sentiment. So in my opinion, if you're interested and they're $35, fuck it - get a pair or two.

Yeah man, I think it depends on the preferences. If you want a slim cupsole, those might work. I personally found they didn't offer enough protection for skating.
They were comfy though, especially if you have wider feet and heels. Could have worn them for everyday errands but I have enough shoes for those occassions.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: DarkPools on February 04, 2024, 11:31:23 AM
eS aren't worthy to spend $35 imo

They 100% are though

The Silo SC, Quattro, and Swift/Accel Slim Plus models are fantastic shoes to skate if you spent $35 on them. That said, Es in general is hot and cold for quality - model specific is what I've observed.

Accel Slim Mid feels like a good thinner cupsole midtop. That toebox could be too narrow for some, which is one of its biggest flaws shared by people on/off Slap. Some may enjoy that if your foot fits that shape, though

As for the durability, it's mixed because I skated some Accel Slims and thoroughly enjoyed them for awhile, but some pairs went to dust real quick (6-7 total pairs skated).

That sole is on the thinner side so it could wear it on you real quick and be too boardfeely or you may dig that feel and may not wear on you to quick. I skated street often in them and noticed the rubber didn't last as long as the Accel OG. Also the suede on the slims is not as thick as the Accel OG. If they're leather, I can't speak on that
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: jsettle on February 04, 2024, 12:29:55 PM
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eS aren't worthy to spend $35 imo
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They 100% are though

The Silo SC, Quattro, and Swift/Accel Slim Plus models are fantastic shoes to skate if you spent $35 on them. That said, Es in general is hot and cold for quality - model specific is what I've observed.

Accel Slim Mid feels like a good thinner cupsole midtop. That toebox could be too narrow for some, which is one of its biggest flaws shared by people on/off Slap. Some may enjoy that if your foot fits that shape, though

As for the durability, it's mixed because I skated some Accel Slims and thoroughly enjoyed them for awhile, but some pairs went to dust real quick (6-7 total pairs skated).

That sole is on the thinner side so it could wear it on you real quick and be too boardfeely or you may dig that feel and may not wear on you to quick. I skated street often in them and noticed the rubber didn't last as long as the Accel OG. Also the suede on the slims is not as thick as the Accel OG. If they're leather, I can't speak on that

Thanks for all that info. Ya somehow my feet fit pretty good in the older pair i have from 6 or so years ago. Not sure if they changed any accept the insole and the tongue straps. I had a sesh out front in my old pair yesterday just to give them a test and they skated pretty good actually.mind you the pair i have is 6 yrs old and super broke. In and floppy just from walking around in them for so many yrs. I think im leaning more towards getting the 2 pairs for 35 bucks a piece than not getting them.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Cranberry Relish on February 04, 2024, 03:26:50 PM
https://www.zumiez.com/areth-loll-black-white-skate-shoes.html

Areth, on sale on Zumiez right now as well
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Xen on February 04, 2024, 04:51:52 PM
https://www.zumiez.com/areth-loll-black-white-skate-shoes.html

Areth, on sale on Zumiez right now as well

Yeah, that's a no from me dawg.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: rocklobster on February 04, 2024, 08:09:24 PM
Anyone skated the accel slim mids as of recently. I am tempted to get a couple pairs to skate since they are on sale for 35 bucks. I have an older pair from about 6 yrs ago i wore as chillers that arent too bad. I guess the newer ones have tongue centering straps and the sti energy insole. Kind of want to skate a cupsole that's not too thick thats a mid and the old pair i have just hug my foot perfectly. Hoping someone has some info on them...good or bad

They're a good shoe for $35 and you manage your expectations. They break in fast but lack the durability of the 2000s era models, the upper gets floppy fast. Stick with the suede / canvas ones and avoid the Everstitch / mesh models, I wore the Accel Slim Plus Everstitch and the upper and sole never broke in so the flick never felt right despite 3 months of wear.

The Swift 1.5 overshadows the Accel Slims with a more durable sole, overall stiffness and hidden lace loops.
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: whale on February 05, 2024, 01:55:52 AM
Can’t say about the mids, but bought a pair of regular slims.
Good to go straight out the box, insole seems decent.
Durability might be a issue, but fuck it, I’m a grown man with disposable income. Got them on sale anyway.

Added bonus is you can cosplay as Wade Desarmo
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: radcunt on February 05, 2024, 05:28:12 AM
I got some LR CM001s for $40 on the way.  Hope they're flat as fuck inside, as my NB440s kill my non existent arches
Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: Daydream on February 05, 2024, 08:33:40 AM
I got some LR CM001s for $40 on the way.  Hope they're flat as fuck inside, as my NB440s kill my non existent arches
where for $40?

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Title: Re: Cupsole Recommendations
Post by: moonordie on February 05, 2024, 09:29:16 AM
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I got some LR CM001s for $40 on the way.  Hope they're flat as fuck inside, as my NB440s kill my non existent arches
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where for $40?

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