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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: thomascandia on February 21, 2021, 12:40:04 PM
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MJ, one of the best street skater ever, still keep telling on his intws how useless is filming a full lenght videopart nowdays, cause people is gonna forget in one second.
Since he is been on Adidas ( 2016), he got less than 10 clips on 2 the team edits, and seems he is not keen too released another banging part, like his last one on Pretty Sweet ( 2012 ), so l don't see any good reasons to paying this kind of ghost, unless they have changed his contract to flow status like Chico ( despite he still used too filming good videoparts and several instaclip more than MJ ).
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Tbh, we don't know how much he's getting paid. It could also be that Adidas realized they fucked up and are waiting for his contract to run out.
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Tbh, we don't know how much he's getting paid. It could also be that Adidas realized they fucked up and are waiting for his contract to run out.
I Reckon he still get paid well, cause how he can make living at this point ? Thru his SPitfire-Thunder's check or the incomes thru Business and co.?
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Tbh, we don't know how much he's getting paid. It could also be that Adidas realized they fucked up and are waiting for his contract to run out.
I Reckon he still get paid well, cause how he can make living at this point ? Thru his SPitfire-Thunder's check or the incomes thru Business and co.?
I mean you'd like to think they are/were paying him considerably more than his Lakai pay cheque, which even though he stated was getting cut from time to time he still had pro shoe's coming out all the way up until after he left (I feel like he was one of the highest paid riders but could be wrong). To leave without a much bigger pay cheque he'd have had to really fucking hate Mike + Rickk, either that he was just reallyyyy feeling the samba's.
I think he got a colourway at some point on Adidas though, yano that first introduction we got to his awesome ideas?
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I'm a bit biased, but I like MJ.
The whole Lakai breakup couldn't have gone any worse and been any more public. What a gnarly turning point.
I wonder what the people at Adidas knew about his situation with Lakai when they ran the footage of him in the Adidas video. Like, were they surprised that running the footage of MJ when he was still on Lakai would blow up? Or, did they think it'd blow over pretty quickly? Or, did they want the controversy to get free publicity?
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I'm a bit biased, but I like MJ.
The whole Lakai breakup couldn't have gone any worse and been any more public. What a gnarly turning point.
I wonder what the people at Adidas knew about his situation with Lakai when they ran the footage of him in the Adidas video. Like, were they surprised that running the footage of MJ when he was still on Lakai would blow up? Or, did they think it'd blow over pretty quickly? Or, did they want the controversy to get free publicity?
I'd really like MJ or Carroll to touch on it in an interview. Its been like 5 years, I just wanna know how they feel about it now. Both sides were heated at the time and now that the dust has settled and shit happened after the flare and stuff I'd like to shed some light. Also RIP John Sciano's shortlived career.
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I just started this topic cause l heard at the time Adidas offered to him a really good contract in terms of money: l mean if u get paid well, sound very disrespectfull spit on the plate with complaining about how useless is go out in the streets for stacking clips.
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I'm a bit biased, but I like MJ.
The whole Lakai breakup couldn't have gone any worse and been any more public. What a gnarly turning point.
I wonder what the people at Adidas knew about his situation with Lakai when they ran the footage of him in the Adidas video. Like, were they surprised that running the footage of MJ when he was still on Lakai would blow up? Or, did they think it'd blow over pretty quickly? Or, did they want the controversy to get free publicity?
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I'm a bit biased, but I like MJ.
The whole Lakai breakup couldn't have gone any worse and been any more public. What a gnarly turning point.
I wonder what the people at Adidas knew about his situation with Lakai when they ran the footage of him in the Adidas video. Like, were they surprised that running the footage of MJ when he was still on Lakai would blow up? Or, did they think it'd blow over pretty quickly? Or, did they want the controversy to get free publicity?
Honestly if that hadn't happened I probably wouldn't even know he was on adidas. One of the least memorable sponsor transfers ever.
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Mj recently in a intw or insta comment, mentioned some " shit people", maybe still beef under the ash.
Did Carroll, at yhe end, send back to his house the whole batch of his pro-shoes ?
Where is gone this production ?
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I'm a bit biased, but I like MJ.
The whole Lakai breakup couldn't have gone any worse and been any more public. What a gnarly turning point.
I wonder what the people at Adidas knew about his situation with Lakai when they ran the footage of him in the Adidas video. Like, were they surprised that running the footage of MJ when he was still on Lakai would blow up? Or, did they think it'd blow over pretty quickly? Or, did they want the controversy to get free publicity?
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I wish Chico was still on Chocolate but prefer it without MJ.
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If you look at it, his purple Adidas he came out with were really similar to his 2's on Lakai
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He was probably one of the very last of his kind to sign a deal for decent money. Nobody's paying for legacy pros anymore. I'll be surprised if anybody that isn't famous in a multi-million kind of followers way gets paid a dime by the big two or three a few years form now.
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If he just skated all would be forgiven, but he’s too busy being the David Brent of skateboarding
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MJ, one of the best street skater ever.
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Would you rather spend an hour trying to understand OP's posts, or spend an hour stuck in traffic with MJ?
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Would you rather spend an hour trying to understand OP's posts, or spend an hour stuck in traffic with MJ?
Easy choice, OP's anyday.
Can you imagine being stuck in traffic with MJ? He'd be unbearable dude. When you finally go to get out of the car, he reminds you to take your Business and Co boards, that, by the way, you owe him for now. Thanks MJ
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Not be mention he’d be way above the legal limit
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Hes like PJ Ladd. I dont overly care what hes up too, what clips hes putting out even if id rather it was alot more, im still a fan, and if his shoe was next to alot of other names, im buying it if its a decent fitting and feeling piece of leather rubber stitching and glue.
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My theory was that Adidas put him on the team knowing he had a Lakai shoe ready to hit the shelves. They used him as a pawn to sabotage Lakai. I remember in an interview MJ asked Adidas if they needed him to put out a video part and they said, nah that's okay, not really necessary. It's because he already served his purpose for Adidas.
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The evergreen cycle of slap
1. The Nike hate threads
2. The MJ hate threads
3. The Numbers/Koston + Guy threads
Can’t wait until June when these threads start again with someone hearing that someone knows a Nike flow skater was told all riders are forced to skate with pushpins in their shoes because of the new ceo
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The evergreen cycle of slap
1. The Nike hate threads
2. The MJ hate threads
3. The Numbers/Koston + Guy threads
Can’t wait until June when these threads start again with someone hearing that someone knows a Nike flow skater was told all riders are forced to skate with pushpins in their shoes because of the new ceo
4. Someone gets cancelled
5. Fuck Nyjah
6. ____ of ____
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My theory was that Adidas put him on the team knowing he had a Lakai shoe ready to hit the shelves. They used him as a pawn to sabotage Lakai. I remember in an interview MJ asked Adidas if they needed him to put out a video part and they said, nah that's okay, not really necessary. It's because he already served his purpose for Adidas.
His last Lakai shoe had already been out when he left for adidas.
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He was probably one of the very last of his kind to sign a deal for decent money. Nobody's paying for legacy pros anymore. I'll be surprised if anybody that isn't famous in a multi-million kind of followers way gets paid a dime by the big two or three a few years form now.
Chico got on Adidas idk if he’s gets a huge check but def gets one
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He was probably one of the very last of his kind to sign a deal for decent money. Nobody's paying for legacy pros anymore. I'll be surprised if anybody that isn't famous in a multi-million kind of followers way gets paid a dime by the big two or three a few years form now.
I think Chico does brand work in addition. Like TM or scout South American skaters
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do they?
free max b
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Widgits. They need to sell widgits.
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The evergreen cycle of slap
1. The Nike hate threads
2. The MJ hate threads
3. The Numbers/Koston + Guy threads
Can’t wait until June when these threads start again with someone hearing that someone knows a Nike flow skater was told all riders are forced to skate with pushpins in their shoes because of the new ceo
4. Someone gets cancelled
5. Fuck Nyjah
6. ____ of ____
you forgot "is indy racist"
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I've had the hiccups on and off for 5 days. Not really relevant to what you're talking about, but it is what it is.
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I've had the hiccups on and off for 5 days. Not really relevant to what you're talking about, but it is what it is.
If you can remember what you might've eaten or maybe a particularly gassy drink you consumed prior to the hiccups, you could take us down the well worn derailment path.
My favorite explanation for hiccups is due to some vestigial part of the brain that still thinks we have gills.
I find drinking a glass of water like this does the trick.
(https://blog.memd.me/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/blog-effective-cure-for-hiccups.jpg)
But it kind of reinforces the whole gill thing. suspicious.
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The evergreen cycle of slap
1. The Nike hate threads
2. The MJ hate threads
3. The Numbers/Koston + Guy threads
Can’t wait until June when these threads start again with someone hearing that someone knows a Nike flow skater was told all riders are forced to skate with pushpins in their shoes because of the new ceo
I dont think Lakai is a big obstacle for a brand like Adidas to planning a sabotage against them. MJ left cause LAkai missed some paycheck at the right time
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Adidas is blowing it with Trent Mcclung. Dudes dropped how much footy in the last few years? Probably not stopping anytime soon either
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Why Adidas still pay people like MJ ?
because of contracts.
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He was probably one of the very last of his kind to sign a deal for decent money. Nobody's paying for legacy pros anymore. I'll be surprised if anybody that isn't famous in a multi-million kind of followers way gets paid a dime by the big two or three a few years form now.
Vans just put Tony Hawk, Andrew Reynolds, and Rick McCrank on. Obviously Reynolds and Hawk are legend status exceptions to any rules, but McCrank is definitely legacy status at this point.
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Adidas is blowing it with Trent Mcclung. Dudes dropped how much footy in the last few years? Probably not stopping anytime soon either
because all his parts are just lines on shin high ledges. must be weird to be that good and only skate the smallest obstacles possible
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Adidas has to be kicking themselves for signing MJ; that whole MJ leaving Lakai, Carroll Jenkem interview, MJ getting kicked off chocolate and MJ adidas commercial fiasco has to be some of the worst PR for Adidas ever. So bad that even MJ, with all the great video parts he’s put out and his legend status, hasn’t even been able to fully bounce back from it. It’s pretty much smeared his image forever. People still acknowledge all he’s done in skating but he’s definitely viewed as more of a shell of his former self these days. Not to mention he’s put out next to nothing since getting on. Adidas has to be bummed they still have to pay him.
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Adidas has to be kicking themselves for signing MJ; that whole MJ leaving Lakai, Carroll Jenkem interview, MJ getting kicked off chocolate and MJ adidas commercial fiasco has to be some of the worst PR for Adidas ever. So bad that even MJ, with all the great video parts he’s put out and his legend status, hasn’t even been able to fully bounce back from it. It’s pretty much smeared his image forever. People still acknowledge all he’s done in skating but he’s definitely viewed as more of a shell of his former self these days. Not to mention he’s put out next to nothing since getting on. Adidas has to be bummed they still have to pay him.
I agree, plus listen Mj on his last interviews complaining how useless is focusing on new videoparts, sounds like a backstabbing to the brands that still pay him. He act just a washed up pro that invested is time to filming drama ads cause he too lazy to filming trix.
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Point taken, but there really aren't too many Tony Hawk or Andrew Reynolds out there, and MJ isn't one of them. Struggling to think if there's even one more 40+ pro that's on either of their levels. Worth noting too that Reynolds is most certainly not getting the same kind of checks as Tony from Vans.
McCrank is one of my faves, and psyched if he's getting some support from Vans, but I'm sure it's just a token amount and a bunch of product.
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He was probably one of the very last of his kind to sign a deal for decent money. Nobody's paying for legacy pros anymore. I'll be surprised if anybody that isn't famous in a multi-million kind of followers way gets paid a dime by the big two or three a few years form now.
Vans just put Tony Hawk, Andrew Reynolds, and Rick McCrank on. Obviously Reynolds and Hawk are legend status exceptions to any rules, but McCrank is definitely legacy status at this point.
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Adidas has to be kicking themselves for signing MJ; that whole MJ leaving Lakai, Carroll Jenkem interview, MJ getting kicked off chocolate and MJ adidas commercial fiasco has to be some of the worst PR for Adidas ever. So bad that even MJ, with all the great video parts he’s put out and his legend status, hasn’t even been able to fully bounce back from it. It’s pretty much smeared his image forever. People still acknowledge all he’s done in skating but he’s definitely viewed as more of a shell of his former self these days. Not to mention he’s put out next to nothing since getting on. Adidas has to be bummed they still have to pay him.
I feel this for sure. I'm sure Adidas must have made the move to try and switch a big crowd of Marc lovers over to Adidas, ones who maybe even shared Marc's previously documented views on big shoe brands in skating. But instead the drama and snakiness of how it all went down most likely just cemented those core fan's thoughts on corporate shoe brands in the first place, it kind of became a chink in the armour Adidas Skateboarding had been building for years - also it kind over shadowed Daewon's intro which I always thought kinda sucked too.
Even after all that you'd think the Adidas team would be smart enough to realise that if they tried to make him skate as much as possible and stop talking to cameras then it'd probably be alright... I guess the contract they got him on before it all blew up probably wasn't like though ::)
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If we are talking Marc sabotaging his legacy, I would say that leaving Lakai for Adidas is secondary to him not skating in years and being a boring old sook
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how much footage or parts a pro pull out these days doesnt translate to being relevant, we are talking about MJ even the mf not doing anything for 234234 years... having a little active social media or shit like that probably do the job
I guess we all see videoparts as 20 years ago, that would be the most relevant thing, nowdays shit is very different, so many kids getting highlight for doing 1 insta trick that goes viral,etc
so I think MJ type of guy pays off these days, specially for a huge brand like adidas, coming from robotic big corpo brand, that hipster kids will talk shit, having a legit legend like MJ is a smart thing to do.
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You little bitches become such mean girls whenever MJ comes up. The guy has far surpassed the need to justify his sponsorship with his career output which was pretty damn consistent throughout 2 decades. Is he an annoying interview? Yeah! But 99% of skateboarders interviewed are boring and have nothing to say, but there must be some reason outlets go to him for an interview. I hardly think Adidas has leveraged their team rider budget giving MJ a legacy contract, so I don’t know what people are upset about other than just some excuse to bag on him because he’s been known to be a touch too high falutin’ in his latter years
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I'm always amazed how quickly his public image changed... his jenkem interview got some serious positive feedback.
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I still don’t hold much against him. There are bound to a few neuroatypical peeps in skateboarding. The dude’s harmless and he ripped. He’s not eating dogshit or abusing women.
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You little bitches become such mean girls whenever MJ comes up. The guy has far surpassed the need to justify his sponsorship with his career output which was pretty damn consistent throughout 2 decades. Is he an annoying interview? Yeah! But 99% of skateboarders interviewed are boring and have nothing to say, but there must be some reason outlets go to him for an interview. I hardly think Adidas has leveraged their team rider budget giving MJ a legacy contract, so I don’t know what people are upset about other than just some excuse to bag on him because he’s been known to be a touch too high falutin’ in his latter years
its a sport
you're paid to perform. When you stop performing, people start wondering why you're still around. We all know MJ did some pretty cool stuff in the past, but kids don't know shit about nor do they care, and old armchair skaters like us resent him for being so fucking annoying whenever he opens his mouth or put out a new """""idea""""" . I get the whole legend status shit, but i think it applies to people who look good on a picture sitting on a bench with shoes, pants and a tee shirt for sale. "Legend" status basically means you're kept on the team for modeling and you made your name into a brand so your pro model shoe sells.
Marc looks like a recovering drug addict and jeopardized his name in that unfortunate lakai break up. I don't see where the value is
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I'm not dogging on MJ's choice to switch to Adidas at all, I really couldn't care less about the whole ordeal other than in hindsight it was pretty epic drama between full on skate legends. I'm just trying to pick apart whether Adidas' plans for MJ might have changed judging by how it all played out and his lack of skating since. From the perspective of a fan, he seemed to isolate himself from the rest of the industry for a while, which is fully understandable but for adidas it's probably not ideal. I just thought they would have done more and included him in shit by now.
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You little bitches become such mean girls whenever MJ comes up. The guy has far surpassed the need to justify his sponsorship with his career output which was pretty damn consistent throughout 2 decades. Is he an annoying interview? Yeah! But 99% of skateboarders interviewed are boring and have nothing to say, but there must be some reason outlets go to him for an interview. I hardly think Adidas has leveraged their team rider budget giving MJ a legacy contract, so I don’t know what people are upset about other than just some excuse to bag on him because he’s been known to be a touch too high falutin’ in his latter years
its a sport
you're paid to perform. When you stop performing, people start wondering why you're still around. We all know MJ did some pretty cool stuff in the past, but kids don't know shit about nor do they care, and old armchair skaters like us resent him for being so fucking annoying whenever he opens his mouth or put out a new """""idea""""" . I get the whole legend status shit, but i think it applies to people who look good on a picture sitting on a bench with shoes, pants and a tee shirt for sale. "Legend" status basically means you're kept on the team for modeling and you made your name into a brand so your pro model shoe sells.
Marc looks like a recovering drug addict and jeopardized his name in that unfortunate lakai break up. I don't see where the value is
it is?!
mj wouldn't be as remembered (only here on slap btw) for his annoying "idea" statements if it didn't need to be rehashed every few months on here whether or not he's said anything. This topic just popped into OP's head, it wasn't like Marc Johnson said something new.
I don't think any "legend" is kept for modeling purposes and that's just fucking dumb. is Vans trotting out Tony Alva to model clothes for young kids? No company with any brains is marketing to the core demo by using middle aged men as models to market their wares.
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MJ is just a socially awkward legend. Not his fault. Fight me.
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It was good because he was in Crailtap, and Adidas didn't even have that
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Who's even fully on Adidas these days? I don't think they've updated their team pages for years. For all we know he could be pro-flow these days.
Notable people such as Diego, Mike Arnold, Heitor etc. All aren't on the team page and pretty sure got that official status.
https://www.adidas.com/us/skate-team (https://www.adidas.com/us/skate-team)
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I miss early 2010's adidas. Amazing shoes and branding. Those tour videos were pinnacle.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u2uT0XJdl9A/TEmLQy4RzxI/AAAAAAAAAhY/_aP5Sbd-Uik/s400/adidas_silas_espresso_1_grande.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Rojf0as1loc/TvrC7Ae-bqI/AAAAAAAAARg/yXS89PUvxrQ/s1600/lucas.JPG)
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Mj's part in Stay Gold is enough to have a shoe sponsor forever
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Mj's part in Stay Gold is enough to have a shoe sponsor forever
Definitely not as good as Reynolds Fully Flared part tho.
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I have a few thoughts for your consideration
1) the echo chamber that is Slap does not represent the majority of shoe-buying skaters. Most skaters i know either don't know what Slap is or look at me like I'm a member of some weird distasteful cult if i mention it around them. I don't think everyone hates him as much as y'all think.
2) he was quite sick not long ago, chronic pain and uncontrollable shaking if i recall, he may still be recovering from this.
3) he's Marc muthafuckin Johnson.
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its a sport
Nope. It’s a marketing scheme. Enjoy the ride.
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Most people who started skating in the past 9 years and definitively anyone who started in the past 5 years is asking "MJ? who?"
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100% sure Marc Johnson made more money off his emerica shoe than 80% of the posters on here will make in there life.
The 20% is reserved for dgkalis and isuck who’ve probably made wayyy more money than mj
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You little bitches become such mean girls whenever MJ comes up. The guy has far surpassed the need to justify his sponsorship with his career output which was pretty damn consistent throughout 2 decades. Is he an annoying interview? Yeah! But 99% of skateboarders interviewed are boring and have nothing to say, but there must be some reason outlets go to him for an interview. I hardly think Adidas has leveraged their team rider budget giving MJ a legacy contract, so I don’t know what people are upset about other than just some excuse to bag on him because he’s been known to be a touch too high falutin’ in his latter years
its a sport
you're paid to perform. When you stop performing, people start wondering why you're still around. We all know MJ did some pretty cool stuff in the past, but kids don't know shit about nor do they care, and old armchair skaters like us resent him for being so fucking annoying whenever he opens his mouth or put out a new """""idea""""" . I get the whole legend status shit, but i think it applies to people who look good on a picture sitting on a bench with shoes, pants and a tee shirt for sale. "Legend" status basically means you're kept on the team for modeling and you made your name into a brand so your pro model shoe sells.
Marc looks like a recovering drug addict and jeopardized his name in that unfortunate lakai break up. I don't see where the value is
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/de/a1/97/dea1973c78a94c607af03538256cd60b.jpg)
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I'll defend MJ, and it is the same defense I use for Gino.
They look unique and fantastic, whenever they decide to skate. Of course I want more footy from them, but they are such special cases that nobody else can satisfy my need for seeing them skate. So even with the extreme small amount of skating we get from them (and is MJ really the worst case? he has definitely put out a lot of footage in his career, and we know he has had/have some serious battles), to me, it justifies them being sponsored.
...but yes MJ should do a lot less talking, and it was a nasty way he broke up with the Crail camp (as I have said before, I just want all the old school Crail people to hold a pizza party and decide to be friends again, who should definitely go out camping and skating non-life-threatening spots).
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On a more serious note: I love MJ, so I'm kind of sad that he doesn't put out more footage. I agree that he doesn't owe us anything at this point, but I would still love to see it, especially since I'm 100 per cent sure that he could very easily shut all the haters up if he just stepped on the board more. As to paying him: With his Seven Steps, Modus and Pretty Sweet (plus countless more) parts on his CV he definitely deserves a decent legacy treatment.
Edit: I didn't know he was ill though. When was that recent park clip filmed? I hope that means he has recovered.
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On a more serious note: I love MJ, so I'm kind of sad that he doesn't put out more footage. I agree that he doesn't owe us anything at this point, but I would still love to see it, especially since I'm 100 per cent sure that he could very easily shut all the haters up if he just stepped on the board more. As to paying him: With his Seven Steps, Modus and Pretty Sweet (plus countless more) parts on his CV he definitely deserves a decent legacy treatment.
Edit: I didn't know he was ill though. When was that recent park clip filmed? I hope that means he has recovered.
All great parts and you didn’t even mention his 3 song SOTY winning Fully Flared part.
Tilt Mode and Man Down are my personal faves as they hit the sweet spot of more MJ footage and just the right amount of fucking around after I got obsessed with him post Modus.
And let’s not forget his “surprise” part in Yeah Right
Also a really good 411vm part in one of the Best Ofs
Crail used to be a place that no one left, then everyone started leaving. Might not be totally on MJ
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Who's even fully on Adidas these days? I don't think they've updated their team pages for years. For all we know he could be pro-flow these days.
Notable people such as Diego, Mike Arnold, Heitor etc. All aren't on the team page and pretty sure got that official status.
https://www.adidas.com/us/skate-team (https://www.adidas.com/us/skate-team)
I’d say tyshawn is probably the most prominent young pro fully on. Obviously scott Johnson is earning his paycheck by associating adidas with the supreme/fa/palace circles.
Also if we’re talking about mj’s sponsor worthy footage what about fully flared? Dude had 3(?) songs that part was great.
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Do you think people go watch Fully Flared on Youtube and then think "damn that was great. Who's he skate for now? Oh, ADIDAS. I'm going to cop some of those ASAP". He does NOTHING for ADIDAS hence the topic of this thread.
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Its possible that Adidas are afraid to get juiced
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On a more serious note: I love MJ, so I'm kind of sad that he doesn't put out more footage. I agree that he doesn't owe us anything at this point, but I would still love to see it, especially since I'm 100 per cent sure that he could very easily shut all the haters up if he just stepped on the board more. As to paying him: With his Seven Steps, Modus and Pretty Sweet (plus countless more) parts on his CV he definitely deserves a decent legacy treatment.
Edit: I didn't know he was ill though. When was that recent park clip filmed? I hope that means he has recovered.
All great parts and you didn’t even mention his 3 song SOTY winning Fully Flared part.
Tilt Mode and Man Down are my personal faves as they hit the sweet spot of more MJ footage and just the right amount of fucking around after I got obsessed with him post Modus.
And let’s not forget his “surprise” part in Yeah Right
Also a really good 411vm part in one of the Best Ofs
Crail used to be a place that no one left, then everyone started leaving. Might not be totally on MJ
Among those you mention I love Man Down in particular, might actually be my favourite of his. One that people often forget about is this one, which is also fantastic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn-mKK3ajaA
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All kidding aside, MJ is an amazing skateboarder and I watch a lot of his parts often. It even gets me to ponder using Thunder trucks, because MJ definitely knows control. I've had 2 B&C decks, that were both awesome quality, I just like smaller boards (I think they occasionally do a 7.75 now though). Need more footage, less skits
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All kidding aside, MJ is an amazing skateboarder and I watch a lot of his parts often. It even gets me to ponder using Thunder trucks, because MJ definitely knows control. I've had 2 B&C decks, that were both awesome quality, I just like smaller boards (I think they occasionally do a 7.75 now though). Need more footage, less skits
Nobody here is asking for another 3 songs part ( which were useless, the first one with " goodbye horses" was enough to cemented his status of soty ), instead to wasted time for 10 minutes skits long. Doesn't cost much effort go out in the street around your area, without go China or Europe and put toghetter an 2.30min relaxing part like Chico or Jb 2 years ago did for Thrasher. I hope he is working atvsomething like that instead to skate inside that fucking horrible looking in the screen warehouses.
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He could easily do what Reynolds is doing with his IG clips and I’d be all for it.
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I think MJ should get paid forever but even if there are people who I think don’t detach a paycheck, why would I (or you) care what companies pay people that are not part of your family?
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What is it about being in fully flared that makes these guys get all perfectionist and think people don't want to see them skate. Like MJ could do anything. He could ask kids at the skatepark like Chico does. Anything at all
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You little bitches become such mean girls whenever MJ comes up. The guy has far surpassed the need to justify his sponsorship with his career output which was pretty damn consistent throughout 2 decades. Is he an annoying interview? Yeah! But 99% of skateboarders interviewed are boring and have nothing to say, but there must be some reason outlets go to him for an interview. I hardly think Adidas has leveraged their team rider budget giving MJ a legacy contract, so I don’t know what people are upset about other than just some excuse to bag on him because he’s been known to be a touch too high falutin’ in his latter years
its a sport
you're paid to perform. When you stop performing, people start wondering why you're still around. We all know MJ did some pretty cool stuff in the past, but kids don't know shit about nor do they care, and old armchair skaters like us resent him for being so fucking annoying whenever he opens his mouth or put out a new """""idea""""" . I get the whole legend status shit, but i think it applies to people who look good on a picture sitting on a bench with shoes, pants and a tee shirt for sale. "Legend" status basically means you're kept on the team for modeling and you made your name into a brand so your pro model shoe sells.
Marc looks like a recovering drug addict and jeopardized his name in that unfortunate lakai break up. I don't see where the value is
AHH I see, the issue is simple, some of us view it less like sport and more like art, which explains why you see no merit in MJs history.
I'm sure the Gonz must piss you the fuck off, he can't even skate to MJs level so why pay him?
What part has he put out for Adidas recently?
Shouldn't he be put out to pasture too if MJ can't cut it?
He certainly does not fill your 1 requirement for legend status, which, according to you, must look good sitting on a bench in shoes? Which is a really strange comment honestly.
I strongly suggest you don't get the legend status thing if that is what you think it means.
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You little bitches become such mean girls whenever MJ comes up. The guy has far surpassed the need to justify his sponsorship with his career output which was pretty damn consistent throughout 2 decades. Is he an annoying interview? Yeah! But 99% of skateboarders interviewed are boring and have nothing to say, but there must be some reason outlets go to him for an interview. I hardly think Adidas has leveraged their team rider budget giving MJ a legacy contract, so I don’t know what people are upset about other than just some excuse to bag on him because he’s been known to be a touch too high falutin’ in his latter years
its a sport
you're paid to perform. When you stop performing, people start wondering why you're still around. We all know MJ did some pretty cool stuff in the past, but kids don't know shit about nor do they care, and old armchair skaters like us resent him for being so fucking annoying whenever he opens his mouth or put out a new """""idea""""" . I get the whole legend status shit, but i think it applies to people who look good on a picture sitting on a bench with shoes, pants and a tee shirt for sale. "Legend" status basically means you're kept on the team for modeling and you made your name into a brand so your pro model shoe sells.
Marc looks like a recovering drug addict and jeopardized his name in that unfortunate lakai break up. I don't see where the value is
AHH I see, the issue is simple, some of us view it less like sport and more like art, which explains why you see no merit in MJs history.
I'm sure the Gonz must piss you the fuck off, he can't even skate to MJs level so why pay him?
What part has he put out for Adidas recently?
Shouldn't he be put out to pasture too if MJ can't cut it?
He certainly does not fill your 1 requirement for legend status, which, according to you, must look good sitting on a bench in shoes? Which is a really strange comment honestly.
I strongly suggest you don't get the legend status thing if that is what you think it means.
Gonz is a cutie, he looks so good sitting on a bench in shoes
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/65/78/2e65787b77f4229fa877e30ce43035ce.jpg)
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You little bitches become such mean girls whenever MJ comes up. The guy has far surpassed the need to justify his sponsorship with his career output which was pretty damn consistent throughout 2 decades. Is he an annoying interview? Yeah! But 99% of skateboarders interviewed are boring and have nothing to say, but there must be some reason outlets go to him for an interview. I hardly think Adidas has leveraged their team rider budget giving MJ a legacy contract, so I don’t know what people are upset about other than just some excuse to bag on him because he’s been known to be a touch too high falutin’ in his latter years
its a sport
you're paid to perform. When you stop performing, people start wondering why you're still around. We all know MJ did some pretty cool stuff in the past, but kids don't know shit about nor do they care, and old armchair skaters like us resent him for being so fucking annoying whenever he opens his mouth or put out a new """""idea""""" . I get the whole legend status shit, but i think it applies to people who look good on a picture sitting on a bench with shoes, pants and a tee shirt for sale. "Legend" status basically means you're kept on the team for modeling and you made your name into a brand so your pro model shoe sells.
Marc looks like a recovering drug addict and jeopardized his name in that unfortunate lakai break up. I don't see where the value is
AHH I see, the issue is simple, some of us view it less like sport and more like art, which explains why you see no merit in MJs history.
I'm sure the Gonz must piss you the fuck off, he can't even skate to MJs level so why pay him?
What part has he put out for Adidas recently?
Shouldn't he be put out to pasture too if MJ can't cut it?
He certainly does not fill your 1 requirement for legend status, which, according to you, must look good sitting on a bench in shoes? Which is a really strange comment honestly.
I strongly suggest you don't get the legend status thing if that is what you think it means.
Gonz is a cutie, he looks so good sitting on a bench in shoes
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/65/78/2e65787b77f4229fa877e30ce43035ce.jpg)
I stand corrected
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You little bitches become such mean girls whenever MJ comes up. The guy has far surpassed the need to justify his sponsorship with his career output which was pretty damn consistent throughout 2 decades. Is he an annoying interview? Yeah! But 99% of skateboarders interviewed are boring and have nothing to say, but there must be some reason outlets go to him for an interview. I hardly think Adidas has leveraged their team rider budget giving MJ a legacy contract, so I don’t know what people are upset about other than just some excuse to bag on him because he’s been known to be a touch too high falutin’ in his latter years
its a sport
you're paid to perform. When you stop performing, people start wondering why you're still around. We all know MJ did some pretty cool stuff in the past, but kids don't know shit about nor do they care, and old armchair skaters like us resent him for being so fucking annoying whenever he opens his mouth or put out a new """""idea""""" . I get the whole legend status shit, but i think it applies to people who look good on a picture sitting on a bench with shoes, pants and a tee shirt for sale. "Legend" status basically means you're kept on the team for modeling and you made your name into a brand so your pro model shoe sells.
Marc looks like a recovering drug addict and jeopardized his name in that unfortunate lakai break up. I don't see where the value is
AHH I see, the issue is simple, some of us view it less like sport and more like art, which explains why you see no merit in MJs history.
I'm sure the Gonz must piss you the fuck off, he can't even skate to MJs level so why pay him?
What part has he put out for Adidas recently?
Shouldn't he be put out to pasture too if MJ can't cut it?
He certainly does not fill your 1 requirement for legend status, which, according to you, must look good sitting on a bench in shoes? Which is a really strange comment honestly.
I strongly suggest you don't get the legend status thing if that is what you think it means.
Gonz is a cutie, he looks so good sitting on a bench in shoes
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/65/78/2e65787b77f4229fa877e30ce43035ce.jpg)
I stand corrected
I don't really get the point you're trying to make because Gonz gets tons of coverage and heavily reps the brand. MJ's only output for like the last five years is giving speeches crying about Fully Flared.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTEGWr9SDro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb2LYu9fmuA
Legend.
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He was probably one of the very last of his kind to sign a deal for decent money. Nobody's paying for legacy pros anymore. I'll be surprised if anybody that isn't famous in a multi-million kind of followers way gets paid a dime by the big two or three a few years form now.
You need to just look over at Vans to know your wrong about the legacy pros.
https://www.vans.com/team.html
McCrank just got added to the roster recently.
I think I used to be against the whole legacy pro's thing, but now I'm older in my 30's and I'm like "damn I'd love to buy a McCrank signature shoe...or a older legend's board...like the Salad King himself, Eric Dressen.
I don't think I'd ever buy a Plan B deck, but I kinda want a Sheffey deck for my wall
***Also, update, in terms of legends still getting boards. I'm currently skating a Gonz deck
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I'm old, and love old guys too. I'm sure MJ's contract is the kind that pays for his house, car, etc. and keeps him from having to have a "real" job. Dressen is a legend, but he's not getting paid pro-athlete bux by Vans to be on their squad. Vans sells $4B a year, and it's awesome that they trickle some back to guys like McCrank, but those contracts are not the kind I'm talking about.
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He was probably one of the very last of his kind to sign a deal for decent money. Nobody's paying for legacy pros anymore. I'll be surprised if anybody that isn't famous in a multi-million kind of followers way gets paid a dime by the big two or three a few years form now.
You need to just look over at Vans to know your wrong about the legacy pros.
https://www.vans.com/team.html
McCrank just got added to the roster recently.
I think I used to be against the whole legacy pro's thing, but now I'm older in my 30's and I'm like "damn I'd love to buy a McCrank signature shoe...or a older legend's board...like the Salad King himself, Eric Dressen.
I don't think I'd ever buy a Plan B deck, but I kinda want a Sheffey deck for my wall
***Also, update, in terms of legends still getting boards. I'm currently skating a Gonz deck
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(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/65/78/2e65787b77f4229fa877e30ce43035ce.jpg)
Speaking only for myself here, but I would gladly buy ANYTHING that handsome gentleman is selling.
The intrigue, the mystic, the mess. I love it.
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He was probably one of the very last of his kind to sign a deal for decent money. Nobody's paying for legacy pros anymore. I'll be surprised if anybody that isn't famous in a multi-million kind of followers way gets paid a dime by the big two or three a few years form now.
Agreed, and it's not just legacy pros. It's been pretty hard to demonstrate any sort of return on investment for athletes - ones *much* bigger than any pro skater short of Tony Hawk. Shoe companies used to sponsor thousands of beginning athletes in hopes on landing on one Michael Jordan, but now the reality is that once the next Michael Jordan appears, Nike or adidas will just cut that person a giant check to join their brand. There's no reason for them to invest that heavily, unless you happen to spot another 6'9" 17 year old Lebron James
Anyway, I think that the era of the big shoe contracts in winding up, and not just for the pros. Nike, adidas and New Balance will be at the leading edge, but even a maker like Vans will probably have a hard time adjusting. In a few years, the only pros making a living from a shoe are going to be Nyjah, TJ, and other pros with enough crossover appeal to justify the expense. Honestly, probably people like Nora, who are hugely appealing to non-skaters and non-traditional skaters (where the industry needs to head in order to grow)
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You little bitches become such mean girls whenever MJ comes up. The guy has far surpassed the need to justify his sponsorship with his career output which was pretty damn consistent throughout 2 decades. Is he an annoying interview? Yeah! But 99% of skateboarders interviewed are boring and have nothing to say, but there must be some reason outlets go to him for an interview. I hardly think Adidas has leveraged their team rider budget giving MJ a legacy contract, so I don’t know what people are upset about other than just some excuse to bag on him because he’s been known to be a touch too high falutin’ in his latter years
its a sport
you're paid to perform. When you stop performing, people start wondering why you're still around. We all know MJ did some pretty cool stuff in the past, but kids don't know shit about nor do they care, and old armchair skaters like us resent him for being so fucking annoying whenever he opens his mouth or put out a new """""idea""""" . I get the whole legend status shit, but i think it applies to people who look good on a picture sitting on a bench with shoes, pants and a tee shirt for sale. "Legend" status basically means you're kept on the team for modeling and you made your name into a brand so your pro model shoe sells.
Marc looks like a recovering drug addict and jeopardized his name in that unfortunate lakai break up. I don't see where the value is
AHH I see, the issue is simple, some of us view it less like sport and more like art, which explains why you see no merit in MJs history.
I'm sure the Gonz must piss you the fuck off, he can't even skate to MJs level so why pay him?
What part has he put out for Adidas recently?
Shouldn't he be put out to pasture too if MJ can't cut it?
He certainly does not fill your 1 requirement for legend status, which, according to you, must look good sitting on a bench in shoes? Which is a really strange comment honestly.
I strongly suggest you don't get the legend status thing if that is what you think it means.
Gonz is a cutie, he looks so good sitting on a bench in shoes
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/65/78/2e65787b77f4229fa877e30ce43035ce.jpg)
I stand corrected
I don't really get the point you're trying to make because Gonz gets tons of coverage and heavily reps the brand. MJ's only output for like the last five years is giving speeches crying about Fully Flared.
The opinions here are so detached from reality. Marc Johnson doesn't film much, doesn't have a huge social media presence, isn't associated with the New York art scene and several of the most popular brands in the world. I seriously doubt that your average 17 year old skater even knows who MJ is (which is a shame, I agree). adidas does not run a charity for legendary skateboarders, and the shareholders of adidas do not care that, fifteen years ago, Marc Johnson put out an incredible part. These people are hired to sell shoes. If they don't sell shoes, they have no value to the company.
If you have a problem with this, your issue is with the global economic order (and it damn well should be)
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Adidas missed an opportunity to run a commercial where the CEO of the company gets a memo about how they now are the official shoe sponsor of MJ. Thinking it's referencing the more famous MJ, Michael Jordan, he throws a huge celebration, pops all his nice champagne bottles, and calls Nike talking shit that he's about to take all their market share. When he finally goes to meet MJ to officially welcome him to the brand, he realizes the memo was referencing this pasty, bald skateboarder who won't shut up about metaphysics.
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Adidas missed an opportunity to run a commercial where the CEO of the company gets a memo about how they now are the official shoe sponsor of MJ. Thinking it's referencing the more famous MJ, Michael Jordan, he throws a huge celebration, pops all his nice champagne bottles, and calls Nike talking shit that he's about to take all their market share. When he finally goes to meet MJ to officially welcome him to the brand, he realizes the memo was referencing this pasty, bald skateboarder who won't shut up about metaphysics.
Brilliant
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You little bitches become such mean girls whenever MJ comes up. The guy has far surpassed the need to justify his sponsorship with his career output which was pretty damn consistent throughout 2 decades. Is he an annoying interview? Yeah! But 99% of skateboarders interviewed are boring and have nothing to say, but there must be some reason outlets go to him for an interview. I hardly think Adidas has leveraged their team rider budget giving MJ a legacy contract, so I don’t know what people are upset about other than just some excuse to bag on him because he’s been known to be a touch too high falutin’ in his latter years
its a sport
you're paid to perform. When you stop performing, people start wondering why you're still around. We all know MJ did some pretty cool stuff in the past, but kids don't know shit about nor do they care, and old armchair skaters like us resent him for being so fucking annoying whenever he opens his mouth or put out a new """""idea""""" . I get the whole legend status shit, but i think it applies to people who look good on a picture sitting on a bench with shoes, pants and a tee shirt for sale. "Legend" status basically means you're kept on the team for modeling and you made your name into a brand so your pro model shoe sells.
Marc looks like a recovering drug addict and jeopardized his name in that unfortunate lakai break up. I don't see where the value is
AHH I see, the issue is simple, some of us view it less like sport and more like art, which explains why you see no merit in MJs history.
I'm sure the Gonz must piss you the fuck off, he can't even skate to MJs level so why pay him?
What part has he put out for Adidas recently?
Shouldn't he be put out to pasture too if MJ can't cut it?
He certainly does not fill your 1 requirement for legend status, which, according to you, must look good sitting on a bench in shoes? Which is a really strange comment honestly.
I strongly suggest you don't get the legend status thing if that is what you think it means.
Gonz is a cutie, he looks so good sitting on a bench in shoes
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/65/78/2e65787b77f4229fa877e30ce43035ce.jpg)
I stand corrected
I don't really get the point you're trying to make because Gonz gets tons of coverage and heavily reps the brand. MJ's only output for like the last five years is giving speeches crying about Fully Flared.
The opinions here are so detached from reality. Marc Johnson doesn't film much, doesn't have a huge social media presence, isn't associated with the New York art scene and several of the most popular brands in the world. I seriously doubt that your average 17 year old skater even knows who MJ is (which is a shame, I agree). adidas does not run a charity for legendary skateboarders, and the shareholders of adidas do not care that, fifteen years ago, Marc Johnson put out an incredible part. These people are hired to sell shoes. If they don't sell shoes, they have no value to the company.
If you have a problem with this, your issue is with the global economic order (and it damn well should be)
Pretty sure the shareholders aren’t alerted to any riders coming or going from the skate team.
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Adidas missed an opportunity to run a commercial where the CEO of the company gets a memo about how they now are the official shoe sponsor of MJ. Thinking it's referencing the more famous MJ, Michael Jordan, he throws a huge celebration, pops all his nice champagne bottles, and calls Nike talking shit that he's about to take all their market share. When he finally goes to meet MJ to officially welcome him to the brand, he realizes the memo was referencing this pasty, bald skateboarder who won't shut up about metaphysics.
Someone needs to make this a reality.
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Adidas missed an opportunity to run a commercial where the CEO of the company gets a memo about how they now are the official shoe sponsor of MJ. Thinking it's referencing the more famous MJ, Michael Jordan, he throws a huge celebration, pops all his nice champagne bottles, and calls Nike talking shit that he's about to take all their market share. When he finally goes to meet MJ to officially welcome him to the brand, he realizes the memo was referencing That very moment a blisteringly drunken Marc bursts through the double door dressed as a serial killer holding masses of scrunched up napkins with ideas scrawled on them. The CEO then realises this pasty, bald skateboarder who won't shut up about metaphysics is in fact MJ.
eh, maybe too far? Made me laugh to begin with tbh haha
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MJ, one of the best street skater ever, still keep telling on his intws how useless is filming a full lenght videopart nowdays, cause people is gonna forget in one second.
Since he is been on Adidas ( 2016), he got less than 10 clips on 2 the team edits, and seems he is not keen too released another banging part, like his last one on Pretty Sweet ( 2012 ), so l don't see any good reasons to paying this kind of ghost, unless they have changed his contract to flow status like Chico ( despite he still used too filming good videoparts and several instaclip more than MJ ).
I don't have time to look through this whole thread but I just want to say that I really admire how absolutely fucked up you said and spelled everything right here. I'm going to assume that some nerd ass has roasted you for it but this is really something Slap needs more of - poorly conceived thread topics written like dogshit *chefs kiss*
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2) he was quite sick not long ago, chronic pain and uncontrollable shaking if i recall, he may still be recovering from this.
Ive heard of this, I think its called alcoholism
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Marc gets paid because he is a living legend. He has had an amazing career and contributed greatly to skateboarding. Style, trick selection, constant innovation are next to none. He is now almost in his mid forties so I don’t expect him to be filming crazy parts anymore, he doesn’t need to. I also imagine his personal expectations for his skating are through the roof, so if he does decide to release something I am sure it will be stellar.
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This needs to be on every page instagram
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(http://i.imgur.com/DQFoCKz.jpg)
it's this time again.
new page i guess
Just cuz. #neverforget
We missed two pages!
also well done watson. hahahaha amazing.
Figured this should go here.
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Marc gets paid because he is a living legend. He has had an amazing career and contributed greatly to skateboarding. Style, trick selection, constant innovation are next to none. He is now almost in his mid forties so I don’t expect him to be filming crazy parts anymore, he doesn’t need to. I also imagine his personal expectations for his skating are through the roof, so if he does decide to release something I am sure it will be stellar.
You're only a living legend as long as people remember you. If you're not getting any exposure or staying relevant then you're just living. The general skate population does not know of or care about MJ. He's def not bringing in any money for Adidas.
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Has anyone considered MJ still makes money because he created Enjoi? Could be possible or he took a large sum from that...
Because how do any of these guys make a living... Unless you pull a Rodney and sell a board company for millions you're not making more than working as an Asst. Manager at a Wendy's. At least when you're a non-contest skater specifically like MJ is/was.
He could very well have a net worth close to 5-10 million dollars and not have to work anymore. But hard to say... He could also be broke.
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They pay him for all those ideas that he had right? I don’t even think they are getting their moneys worth out of Dae and he’s a fairly productive skater...
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did you just shorten daewon to dae? kinda weird bud.
free max b
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Has anyone considered MJ still makes money because he created Enjoi? Could be possible or he took a large sum from that...
Because how do any of these guys make a living... Unless you pull a Rodney and sell a board company for millions you're not making more than working as an Asst. Manager at a Wendy's. At least when you're a non-contest skater specifically like MJ is/was.
He could very well have a net worth close to 5-10 million dollars and not have to work anymore. But hard to say... He could also be broke.
Well, what does celebrity net worth say? Only way to get those facts.
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Has anyone considered MJ still makes money because he created Enjoi? Could be possible or he took a large sum from that...
Because how do any of these guys make a living... Unless you pull a Rodney and sell a board company for millions you're not making more than working as an Asst. Manager at a Wendy's. At least when you're a non-contest skater specifically like MJ is/was.
He could very well have a net worth close to 5-10 million dollars and not have to work anymore. But hard to say... He could also be broke.
i'm going for broke, if he had made millions from selling enjoi he would have built new businesses backed with enough money to build a website and have decent PR, not a business out his garage with 3,5 products
also the thing that struck me most in his 9 club was when he said "we pro skaters live check to check" it may have been psyops regarding the whole situation but i think it aligns well with the whole vibe he put outs : spent all his money on a house in the woods, alcohol and naturalist doctors appointments
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Has anyone considered MJ still makes money because he created Enjoi? Could be possible or he took a large sum from that...
Because how do any of these guys make a living... Unless you pull a Rodney and sell a board company for millions you're not making more than working as an Asst. Manager at a Wendy's. At least when you're a non-contest skater specifically like MJ is/was.
He could very well have a net worth close to 5-10 million dollars and not have to work anymore. But hard to say... He could also be broke.
Well, what does celebrity net worth say? Only way to get those facts.
He net worth has been growing significantly in 2018-19. So, how much is Marc Johnson worth at the age of 43 years old? Marc Johnson's income source is mostly from being a successful . He is from United States.
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Marc Johnson Net Worth.
Net Worth in 2020
$1 Million - $5 Million
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lmao at all you clowns caping up for fucking adidas
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Marc Johnson if of Adidas it seems. Not on the team page, not listed as a member down the bottom of the page either.
To be expected, he could've stuck it out with Lakai and chocolate and become a 'legacy' member but instead he switched to Adidas, didn't do a thing and hasn't posted on social media in forever.
https://www.adidas.com/us/skate-team
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Has anyone considered MJ still makes money because he created Enjoi? Could be possible or he took a large sum from that...
Because how do any of these guys make a living... Unless you pull a Rodney and sell a board company for millions you're not making more than working as an Asst. Manager at a Wendy's. At least when you're a non-contest skater specifically like MJ is/was.
He could very well have a net worth close to 5-10 million dollars and not have to work anymore. But hard to say... He could also be broke.
He didn't sell Enjoi, he left Enjoi, most skateboard companies are not owned by whatever pro you are told it's owned by. They're a brand manager and team rider, they can get fired or leave like anyone else and get no compensation. Dwindle owns Enjoi, and if you've noticed no one that owns a company on Dwindle ever gets a piece of it. Gonz got nothing for Blind, Natas got nothing for 101, Markovich and Blow got nothing for Prime.
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Marc Johnson if of Adidas it seems. Not on the team page, not listed as a member down the bottom of the page either.
To be expected, he could've stuck it out with Lakai and chocolate and become a 'legacy' member but instead he switched to Adidas, didn't do a thing and hasn't posted on social media in forever.
https://www.adidas.com/us/skate-team
There is no legacy at Craig almost everyone quit. If anything it seems like he should of gone to Adidas right after pretty sweet (about when I was first hearing the rumours of MJ and daewon going to Adidas)if he got cut from choc for it back then he prob would of been in a better position to get on another company or start his own when his name meant more
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lmao at all you clowns caping up for fucking adidas
Wow fair play. I agree
Correct if I'm wrong but I thought you were one of the brain dead fashionista Nike/Dunk guys on here ?
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Who's even fully on Adidas these days? I don't think they've updated their team pages for years. For all we know he could be pro-flow these days.
Notable people such as Diego, Mike Arnold, Heitor etc. All aren't on the team page and pretty sure got that official status.
https://www.adidas.com/us/skate-team (https://www.adidas.com/us/skate-team)
I’d say tyshawn is probably the most prominent young pro fully on. Obviously scott Johnson is earning his paycheck by associating adidas with the supreme/fa/palace circles.
Also if we’re talking about mj’s sponsor worthy footage what about fully flared? Dude had 3(?) songs that part was great.
Did you forget about Mark Suciu, Daewon Song, Silas, Kader, Nora….Mark Gonzales and half a million others ???
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lmao at all you clowns caping up for fucking adidas
Wow fair play. I agree
Correct if I'm wrong but I thought you were one of the brain dead fashionista Nike/Dunk guys on here ?
i hate all corporations equally
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lmao at all you clowns caping up for fucking adidas
Wow fair play. I agree
Correct if I'm wrong but I thought you were one of the brain dead fashionista Nike/Dunk guys on here ?
i hate all corporations equally
even mom and pop corporations?
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lmao at all you clowns caping up for fucking adidas
Wow fair play. I agree
Correct if I'm wrong but I thought you were one of the brain dead fashionista Nike/Dunk guys on here ?
i hate all corporations equally
Word
Dunno why I thought that sorry
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Never got the MJ hate on slap, one of the greatest to do it right alongside Reynolds and Cardiel. The internet is a strange place.
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Never got the MJ hate on slap, one of the greatest to do it right alongside Reynolds and Cardiel. The internet is a strange place.
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2013/07/16/the-marc-johnson-interview/
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2016/05/17/mike-carroll-on-the-future-of-crailtap/
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Never got the MJ hate on slap, one of the greatest to do it right alongside Reynolds and Cardiel. The internet is a strange place.
It’s pure jealousy. No other reason for it.
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Never got the MJ hate on slap, one of the greatest to do it right alongside Reynolds and Cardiel. The internet is a strange place.
He's too Pretentious.
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Never got the MJ hate on slap, one of the greatest to do it right alongside Reynolds and Cardiel. The internet is a strange place.
a price i'm willing to accept for his genius
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Never got the MJ hate on slap, one of the greatest to do it right alongside Reynolds and Cardiel. The internet is a strange place.
pretentious
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“Claiming that or behaving as if one is important or deserving of merit when such is not the case.”
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Never got the MJ hate on slap, one of the greatest to do it right alongside Reynolds and Cardiel. The internet is a strange place.
a price i'm willing to accept for his genius
i mean marc johnson is just mark suciu if he had majored in alcoholism.
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They pay him for all those ideas that he had right? I don’t even think they are getting their moneys worth out of Dae and he’s a fairly productive skater...
I completely disagree. Daewon is killing it on social media and Adidas is moving units as a result. He has a way of making skating look impossibly tech, unique, accessible, and fun all at once - so much so that relatives like my Star Wars cousin (he's just super into Star Wars and making money) sends me Daewon videos all the time. I hear what you're saying in terms of maybe more traditional video parts and a full part would be amazing, but Daewon is a skateboarding thaumaturge with intergenerational appeal to spare. Adidas got a great deal with signing him.
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They pay him for all those ideas that he had right? I don’t even think they are getting their moneys worth out of Dae and he’s a fairly productive skater...
I completely disagree. Daewon is killing it on social media and Adidas is moving units as a result. He has a way of making skating look impossibly tech, unique, accessible, and fun all at once - so much so that relatives like my Star Wars cousin (he's just super into Star Wars and making money) sends me Daewon videos all the time. I hear what you're saying in terms of maybe more traditional video parts and a full part would be amazing, but Daewon is a skateboarding thaumaturge with intergenerational appeal to spare. Adidas got a great deal with signing him.
Pretty sure he's actually filming an adidas part right now
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Never got the MJ hate on slap, one of the greatest to do it right alongside Reynolds and Cardiel. The internet is a strange place.
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“Claiming that or behaving as if one is important or deserving of merit when such is not the case.”
You actually believe this? :o
Yeah, i do. Marc is clearly the guy who thinks is smarter than everyone in the room, when he's really not that much of a big deal. Huge fan of his skating, but in the end his ego overshaddows this in my opinion. But again, that's only my opinion.
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They pay him for all those ideas that he had right? I don’t even think they are getting their moneys worth out of Dae and he’s a fairly productive skater...
I completely disagree. Daewon is killing it on social media and Adidas is moving units as a result. He has a way of making skating look impossibly tech, unique, accessible, and fun all at once - so much so that relatives like my Star Wars cousin (he's just super into Star Wars and making money) sends me Daewon videos all the time. I hear what you're saying in terms of maybe more traditional video parts and a full part would be amazing, but Daewon is a skateboarding thaumaturge with intergenerational appeal to spare. Adidas got a great deal with signing him.
Pretty sure he's actually filming an adidas part right now
That would be so fucking sick <3
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Never got the MJ hate on slap, one of the greatest to do it right alongside Reynolds and Cardiel. The internet is a strange place.
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“Claiming that or behaving as if one is important or deserving of merit when such is not the case.”
You actually believe this? :o
I’ll admit I’ve only seen him in real life one time at a girl/chocolate demo and he had a injured ankle at the time so wasn’t skating. BUT he was right there hanging out with the kids the whole time with a big smile on his face. Didn’t leave me with a bad impression at all. On a side note I got too see pre-berricks Koston battle a huge frontside flip and get it a few tries later. He was up to my head high,(6’) over the top of a huge concrete pyramid.. anyway I always liked MJ And respect the amazing parts he’s put out while battling a major addiction. I have to respect that.
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Never got the MJ hate on slap, one of the greatest to do it right alongside Reynolds and Cardiel. The internet is a strange place.
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“Claiming that or behaving as if one is important or deserving of merit when such is not the case.”
You actually believe this? :o
Maybe he’s not smarter, but he’s a workaholic and puts more work in things than most. Just look at how much footage he created to have 3 song video parts. And these were not filler tricks.
He also made enjoi what it was back in its best times. Then he started drinking to much, but I guess that’s how he tried to cope with his perfectionism. Maybe now he’s just chilling and has learned not to give to many fucks about what you kooks think. :P
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Never got the MJ hate on slap, one of the greatest to do it right alongside Reynolds and Cardiel. The internet is a strange place.
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“Claiming that or behaving as if one is important or deserving of merit when such is not the case.”
You actually believe this? :o
Maybe he’s not smarter, but he’s a workaholic and puts more work in things than most. Just look at how much footage he created to have 3 song video parts. And these were not filler tricks.
He also made enjoi what it was back in its best times. Then he started drinking to much, but I guess that’s how he tried to cope with his perfectionism. Maybe now he’s just chilling and has learned not to give to many fucks about what you kooks think. :P
He has smartest guy in the room syndrome. Probably not hard to get that vibe when you feel well read and hang out with high school dropouts in a van weeks at a time.
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He has this idea, that like if you think of a trick, you can do it
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He has this idea, that like if you think of a trick, you can do it
that is the most pretentious thing ive ever heard
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He has this idea, that like if you think of a trick, you can do it
that is the most pretentious thing ive ever heard
You really should get out of your parents basement more often then.
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Leave the basement? Do you want to get juiced?
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Would you rather spend an hour trying to understand OP's posts, or spend an hour stuck in traffic with MJ?
I actually spent some time in the car with MJ once when crailtap was in town. He broke his truck and I took him to the shop to get it fixed and back and he was super cool...our conversation must've been boring though because Gilbert fell asleep in the back seat lol.
MJ is one of the best to ever ride a skateboard and one of my all time favorites.
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Marc Johnson if of Adidas it seems. Not on the team page, not listed as a member down the bottom of the page either.
To be expected, he could've stuck it out with Lakai and chocolate and become a 'legacy' member but instead he switched to Adidas, didn't do a thing and hasn't posted on social media in forever.
https://www.adidas.com/us/skate-team
Worth noting that this list almost seems up to date, they also don't have my man Joey O'Brien on the list even though he just got an Adidas ad in the latest Thrasher and was on their latest Midwest tour vid.
Also don't have Benny Fairfax listed and he just posted on his story yesterday of getting one of the F&F new Puig boxes.
(but they do have the goat Jamal on there which makes me really happy ;D)
Although I do think MJ is also of the team, don't think their team page is the best source to confirm this since they've left some notable guys off it, though understandable when they prob have over 50 people "fully" on :P
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Although I do think MJ is also of the team, don't think their team page is the best source to confirm this since they've left some notable guys off it, though understandable when they prob have over 50 people "fully" on :P
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I checked the team page 1month ago and he was still on the list, now is gone.
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Never got the MJ hate on slap, one of the greatest to do it right alongside Reynolds and Cardiel. The internet is a strange place.
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“Claiming that or behaving as if one is important or deserving of merit when such is not the case.”
You actually believe this? :o
It’s weird how dumb skateboarders are smarter than smart skateboarders
KB > MJ
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It'd be cool if MJ got on Sci-Fi Fantasy. But watch he gets on and Jerry has to kick him off. Haha
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if we're talking about lack of production, for one, get the fuck outta here saying daewon doesn't produce. instead, be mad that dill is on adidas and has done jack shit, just like he did for vans before this
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They pay him for all those ideas that he had right? I don’t even think they are getting their moneys worth out of Dae and he’s a fairly productive skater...
I completely disagree. Daewon is killing it on social media and Adidas is moving units as a result. He has a way of making skating look impossibly tech, unique, accessible, and fun all at once - so much so that relatives like my Star Wars cousin (he's just super into Star Wars and making money) sends me Daewon videos all the time. I hear what you're saying in terms of maybe more traditional video parts and a full part would be amazing, but Daewon is a skateboarding thaumaturge with intergenerational appeal to spare. Adidas got a great deal with signing him.
Daewon has more than a million followers on Instagram. He is regularly producing clips which garner tens of millions of views across all social media platforms. Those are ridiculous numbers and any skate shoe company would happily sponsor someone with that kind of reach. Also, frankly speaking, this is what matters in 2022.
I don't really see anyone here hating Marc Johnson. Basically everyone agrees he's one of the best of all time, but maybe some find him annoying and lot of people seem confused as what his "value-add" was to adidas, since he is not active on social media and doesn't seem to be producing any new footage.
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Never got the MJ hate on slap, one of the greatest to do it right alongside Reynolds and Cardiel. The internet is a strange place.
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2016/05/17/mike-carroll-on-the-future-of-crailtap/
Marc’s side of the story at 1:21:25
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9-uUSSf1gAw&t=1045s
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Never got the MJ hate on slap, one of the greatest to do it right alongside Reynolds and Cardiel. The internet is a strange place.
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2016/05/17/mike-carroll-on-the-future-of-crailtap/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9-uUSSf1gAw&t=1045s
Remember at the time thinking he is overly trying to drama it up "my kid" etc but I've always thought MJ was in the right on this. If you worked for someone who constantly fucked you around and didn't pay you wouldn't you try work somewhere else?
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Never got the MJ hate on slap, one of the greatest to do it right alongside Reynolds and Cardiel. The internet is a strange place.
https://www.jenkemmag.com/home/2016/05/17/mike-carroll-on-the-future-of-crailtap/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9-uUSSf1gAw&t=1045s
I always took it as Crailtap making unreasonable demands due to the stress of how hard they were getting hit financially. At the end, they couldn't live up to the contract, and Marc didn't have to leave on their schedule so they didn't get stuck with deadstock. Marc may have passively agreed to stay, but when he had to make a decision he made the decision that was best for him. He was an aging pro at the time who probably delivered more footage for Lakai over his time frame their than anyone else on the brand.
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MJ is the goat and all haters are kooks. The details of his contract are between him and adidas. It’s not surprising that a man in his 40’s didn’t want to play the ig influencer game.
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MJ could've put Lakai out of business if he wanted by suing them for the back pay in royalties they owed him. Instead he kept his head down and respected the wishes of Crailtap until he couldn't anymore, and how does Carroll repay him? Slandering him and sabotaging the rest of his career by telling half the fucking story favoring himself and his shit companies that didn't honor their contracts. Then he had the audacity to call MJ out for not honoring the full extent of a verbal "promise" so they could sell off the rest of his shoes and not even pay him what they original agreed to pay him? Fuck that. Also many of you on this forum fell for it hook, line and sinker and bashed MJ for "selling out". What is hilarious is this is the same group who posts over and over about the evils of capitalism and corporations exploiting their employees and this was a classic fucking example of that and look who's side you chose.
BTW I know MJ's side of the story is true because I have friends who worked out there who told me this long before that 9 club interview came out. In fact MJ didn't even go as deep as he could have in that interview. What Carroll did was despicable and tbh I've never felt the same about him since and honestly have felt bad for MJ because where do you go when the majority of skateboarders see you as a sellout kook after you busted your ass for years for brands who ended up screwing him over.
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MJ is the goat and all haters are kooks. The details of his contract are between him and adidas. It’s not surprising that a man in his 40’s didn’t want to play the ig influencer game.
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Makes sense that he would have come off the team page in the past month. Pretty sure he signed his first contract/got announced on the team around May 2016 so assuming contracts are either 2 or 3 years he would have probably gotten at least 2 deals being on for 6 years. I always supported the move especially since Lakai couldn’t pay him but could pay for some of the most atrocious collabs in skateboard history. Also fuck the argument about being stuck with dead stock. His last shoe was selling well enough that they renamed it the Daly and sold it for another 4ish years after he quit.
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Makes sense that he would have come off the team page in the past month. Pretty sure he signed his first contract/got announced on the team around May 2016 so assuming contracts are either 2 or 3 years he would have probably gotten at least 2 deals being on for 6 years. I always supported the move especially since Lakai couldn’t pay him but could pay for some of the most atrocious collabs in skateboard history. Also fuck the argument about being stuck with dead stock. His last shoe was selling well enough that they renamed it the Daly and sold it for another 4ish years after he quit.
Have Danny Brady on the team, on one of the most popular hypebeast brands around and an absolutely amazing skater. Instead makes a shoe with Nico Hiraga whose lucky to be sponsored to tap into whatever popularity a much less successful hypebeast brand has.
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Marc Johnson if of Adidas it seems. Not on the team page, not listed as a member down the bottom of the page either.
To be expected, he could've stuck it out with Lakai and chocolate and become a 'legacy' member but instead he switched to Adidas, didn't do a thing and hasn't posted on social media in forever.
https://www.adidas.com/us/skate-team
Worth noting that this list almost seems up to date, they also don't have my man Joey O'Brien on the list even though he just got an Adidas ad in the latest Thrasher and was on their latest Midwest tour vid.
Also don't have Benny Fairfax listed and he just posted on his story yesterday of getting one of the F&F new Puig boxes.
(but they do have the goat Jamal on there which makes me really happy ;D)
Although I do think MJ is also of the team, don't think their team page is the best source to confirm this since they've left some notable guys off it, though understandable when they prob have over 50 people "fully" on :P
Benny's the UK TM for Adidas now, don't think he's 'on' the team anymore
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He has this idea, that like if you think of a trick, you can do it
that is the most pretentious thing ive ever heard
I always found it more outrageous that pretentious. No, dude, you can go do a trick if you can think of it. That's most certainly not just the way it is for me. He told us not to try it at home too, though, so if we interpret it in the context of his entire oeuvre maybe he's justified.
That said, love MJ and always will.
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....it was sarcasm
MJ one of greatest of all time
imo deserves better shoe deal than guys like gonz, mike v, dill
all of whom been miliking influencer status since before MJ stopped ripping
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He has this idea, that like if you think of a trick, you can do it
that is the most pretentious thing ive ever heard
I always found it more outrageous that pretentious. No, dude, you can go do a trick if you can think of it. That's most certainly not just the way it is for me. He told us not to try it at home too, though, so if we interpret it in the context of his entire oeuvre maybe he's justified.
That said, love MJ and always will.
the older i get the more i feel like this is actually true though. thre is a lot of stuff recently i have learned in my 30s that was a complete mental block for me for years but i evnetually just worked on it hard enough and i could get it, after every day putting in a solid 10-15 min on it.
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Imagine waking up on a Thursday morning and having the audacity to anonymously accuse Gonz of milking it. Straight foolish.
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Imagine waking up on a Thursday morning and having the audacity to anonymously accuse Gonz of milking it. Straight foolish.
Whilst thinking that Mike V got a good deal by selling his soul to Lord Xenu.
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Imagine waking up on a Thursday morning and having the audacity to anonymously accuse Gonz of milking it. Straight foolish.
Whilst thinking that Mike V got a good deal by selling his soul to Lord Xenu.
dont worry i understand some of you would rather watch gonz do slappys in neon pyjama pants in nyc and thats all good. we all have a preference. Mine is MJ.
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Marc Johnson if of Adidas it seems. Not on the team page, not listed as a member down the bottom of the page either.
To be expected, he could've stuck it out with Lakai and chocolate and become a 'legacy' member but instead he switched to Adidas, didn't do a thing and hasn't posted on social media in forever.
https://www.adidas.com/us/skate-team
Worth noting that this list almost seems up to date, they also don't have my man Joey O'Brien on the list even though he just got an Adidas ad in the latest Thrasher and was on their latest Midwest tour vid.
Also don't have Benny Fairfax listed and he just posted on his story yesterday of getting one of the F&F new Puig boxes.
(but they do have the goat Jamal on there which makes me really happy ;D)
Although I do think MJ is also of the team, don't think their team page is the best source to confirm this since they've left some notable guys off it, though understandable when they prob have over 50 people "fully" on :P
Benny's the UK TM for Adidas now, don't think he's 'on' the team anymore
Oh really? That's cool I didn't know that, so is Paul Shier the Global TM then? They're both Brits so would think that's how they would structure it
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Marc Johnson if of Adidas it seems. Not on the team page, not listed as a member down the bottom of the page either.
To be expected, he could've stuck it out with Lakai and chocolate and become a 'legacy' member but instead he switched to Adidas, didn't do a thing and hasn't posted on social media in forever.
https://www.adidas.com/us/skate-team
Worth noting that this list almost seems up to date, they also don't have my man Joey O'Brien on the list even though he just got an Adidas ad in the latest Thrasher and was on their latest Midwest tour vid.
Also don't have Benny Fairfax listed and he just posted on his story yesterday of getting one of the F&F new Puig boxes.
(but they do have the goat Jamal on there which makes me really happy ;D)
Although I do think MJ is also of the team, don't think their team page is the best source to confirm this since they've left some notable guys off it, though understandable when they prob have over 50 people "fully" on :P
Benny's the UK TM for Adidas now, don't think he's 'on' the team anymore
Benny moved back to the UK? Thought he moved to Australia.
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Makes sense that he would have come off the team page in the past month. Pretty sure he signed his first contract/got announced on the team around May 2016 so assuming contracts are either 2 or 3 years he would have probably gotten at least 2 deals being on for 6 years. I always supported the move especially since Lakai couldn’t pay him but could pay for some of the most atrocious collabs in skateboard history. Also fuck the argument about being stuck with dead stock. His last shoe was selling well enough that they renamed it the Daly and sold it for another 4ish years after he quit.
I can’t stand they Nico kid. I used to back Lakai heavily but once the thing with MJ went down and then they could magically afford collabs with Lena Dunham and hello kitty I was done with them. The Flair is the worst video crail has ever made.
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Gonna take a wild guess and say regardless of what happened, MJ would still have gone koo-koo for cocoa pops and Lakai would have shit the bed like every other shoe company that solely relied on skaters……
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Makes sense that he would have come off the team page in the past month. Pretty sure he signed his first contract/got announced on the team around May 2016 so assuming contracts are either 2 or 3 years he would have probably gotten at least 2 deals being on for 6 years. I always supported the move especially since Lakai couldn’t pay him but could pay for some of the most atrocious collabs in skateboard history. Also fuck the argument about being stuck with dead stock. His last shoe was selling well enough that they renamed it the Daly and sold it for another 4ish years after he quit.
Lakai have Brady shoes to try to capitalize on the Palace connection until he left for Vans/to focus on helping run Palace but I always got the impression that Palace didn’t want to (or couldn’t) collab with Lakai. You need both people to be down for a collaboration - you can’t just decide to do it yourself.
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Isn’t Lakai somehow big in Korea? Explains the strange shoes they have now.
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Isn’t Lakai somehow big in Korea? Explains the strange shoes they have now.
I think in Korea they make giant platform moon boot sneakers. One of those licence deals things that's not really part of the main brand like how in Aus Elwood used to make pink polo shirts and the sort of stuff classic frat boy yuppies would wear not workwear/ what pappalardo would be into.
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Makes sense that he would have come off the team page in the past month. Pretty sure he signed his first contract/got announced on the team around May 2016 so assuming contracts are either 2 or 3 years he would have probably gotten at least 2 deals being on for 6 years. I always supported the move especially since Lakai couldn’t pay him but could pay for some of the most atrocious collabs in skateboard history. Also fuck the argument about being stuck with dead stock. His last shoe was selling well enough that they renamed it the Daly and sold it for another 4ish years after he quit.
Lakai have Brady shoes to try to capitalize on the Palace connection until he left for Vans/to focus on helping run Palace but I always got the impression that Palace didn’t want to (or couldn’t) collab with Lakai. You need both people to be down for a collaboration - you can’t just decide to do it yourself.
Considering they've done a collab with Vans since Brady and Rory got on, I doubt they have exclusivity to Adidas. I'm sure Palace would have done something that would have got bigger checks in Brady's pocket. Especially earlier on. I wouldn't be shocked if Crail got hung up on giving a smaller board brand attention and by the time it was obvious it should be done Palace said fuck it.
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Marc Johnson if of Adidas it seems. Not on the team page, not listed as a member down the bottom of the page either.
To be expected, he could've stuck it out with Lakai and chocolate and become a 'legacy' member but instead he switched to Adidas, didn't do a thing and hasn't posted on social media in forever.
https://www.adidas.com/us/skate-team
Worth noting that this list almost seems up to date, they also don't have my man Joey O'Brien on the list even though he just got an Adidas ad in the latest Thrasher and was on their latest Midwest tour vid.
Also don't have Benny Fairfax listed and he just posted on his story yesterday of getting one of the F&F new Puig boxes.
(but they do have the goat Jamal on there which makes me really happy ;D)
Although I do think MJ is also of the team, don't think their team page is the best source to confirm this since they've left some notable guys off it, though understandable when they prob have over 50 people "fully" on :P
Benny's the UK TM for Adidas now, don't think he's 'on' the team anymore
Oh really? That's cool I didn't know that, so is Paul Shier the Global TM then? They're both Brits so would think that's how they would structure it
Yeah Shier's the US/Global TM. Not sure who was doing it before Benny but Lev was the UK TM for a while before palace blew up
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Makes sense that he would have come off the team page in the past month. Pretty sure he signed his first contract/got announced on the team around May 2016 so assuming contracts are either 2 or 3 years he would have probably gotten at least 2 deals being on for 6 years. I always supported the move especially since Lakai couldn’t pay him but could pay for some of the most atrocious collabs in skateboard history. Also fuck the argument about being stuck with dead stock. His last shoe was selling well enough that they renamed it the Daly and sold it for another 4ish years after he quit.
Lakai have Brady shoes to try to capitalize on the Palace connection until he left for Vans/to focus on helping run Palace but I always got the impression that Palace didn’t want to (or couldn’t) collab with Lakai. You need both people to be down for a collaboration - you can’t just decide to do it yourself.
but lakai is part of crail, which basically just the overreach of a board brand. it's not particularly mysterious that two companies who make the same thing didn't do a collab.
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Makes sense that he would have come off the team page in the past month. Pretty sure he signed his first contract/got announced on the team around May 2016 so assuming contracts are either 2 or 3 years he would have probably gotten at least 2 deals being on for 6 years. I always supported the move especially since Lakai couldn’t pay him but could pay for some of the most atrocious collabs in skateboard history. Also fuck the argument about being stuck with dead stock. His last shoe was selling well enough that they renamed it the Daly and sold it for another 4ish years after he quit.
Lakai have Brady shoes to try to capitalize on the Palace connection until he left for Vans/to focus on helping run Palace but I always got the impression that Palace didn’t want to (or couldn’t) collab with Lakai. You need both people to be down for a collaboration - you can’t just decide to do it yourself.
but lakai is part of crail, which basically just the overreach of a board brand. it's not particularly mysterious that two companies who make the same thing didn't do a collab.
Lakai has done collabs with pretty much every other riders board sponsors tho. Even at the time a Brady palace collab shoe would of made sense they did a Jensen isle collab
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Makes sense that he would have come off the team page in the past month. Pretty sure he signed his first contract/got announced on the team around May 2016 so assuming contracts are either 2 or 3 years he would have probably gotten at least 2 deals being on for 6 years. I always supported the move especially since Lakai couldn’t pay him but could pay for some of the most atrocious collabs in skateboard history. Also fuck the argument about being stuck with dead stock. His last shoe was selling well enough that they renamed it the Daly and sold it for another 4ish years after he quit.
Lakai have Brady shoes to try to capitalize on the Palace connection until he left for Vans/to focus on helping run Palace but I always got the impression that Palace didn’t want to (or couldn’t) collab with Lakai. You need both people to be down for a collaboration - you can’t just decide to do it yourself.
but lakai is part of crail, which basically just the overreach of a board brand. it's not particularly mysterious that two companies who make the same thing didn't do a collab.
Who cares man, they probably would've ended up being a floppy, cheap, wear once and look like your grandad's slipper type of sneaker like the Isle one and everything else Lakai make. I'm sure Brady has literally never looked back. Would be funny to know exactly how many Crailtap rider's cheques equate to Brady's Palace one haha jk
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They should have the means to do so after firing all of the reps and cutting skate shop accounts, but that is old news and all....
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What kid today could fill Marc’s shoes? It’s impossible because of when 7 steps came out.
I feel like no one has ever out did that part. Also Tilt mode army. The one with the street cab wacky rail slam at the end.
Like I said it’s impossible.
People like guy and marc and Mark and cards…. They should be on whatever they want forever with out putting in work for they contribution to the golden age.
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What kid today could fill Marc’s shoes? It’s impossible because of when 7 steps came out.
I feel like no one has ever out did that part. Also Tilt mode army. The one with the street cab wacky rail slam at the end.
Like I said it’s impossible.
People like guy and marc and Mark and cards…. They should be on whatever they want forever with out putting in work for they contribution to the golden age.
I somewhat agree but I also think you should still actively participate in skateboard culture... like Guy still skates and posts clips, shows up to events, etc. Cards obviously can't do that but like there's nothing stopping Marc from doing dork tricks for Instagram and like being a general skateboarding ambassador like Gonz who we see is still out and about all the time, skating and talking to the youth and actively involved in projects.
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They should have the means to do so after firing all of the reps and cutting skate shop accounts, but that is old news and all....
I knew it they are nazis
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The fact that Chico isn't fully on in 2022 and MJ is, is one of the biggest crimes against skateboarding
Is Chico loved here so much just because of instagram?
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The fact that Chico isn't fully on in 2022 and MJ is, is one of the biggest crimes against skateboarding
Is Chico loved here so much just because of instagram?
Not solely because of that but his presence there over the last couple of years certainly hasn’t hurt his legacy. I feel this is like asking if people only like Darwin because of insta. It’s the latest in a long line of good shit from them.
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I wish MJ was still active. He’s an alltimer.
Listening to him speak, for even a short time…like in that 9club where he breaks down what happened with him and crailcamp, he sounds kinda off. At the minimum tough to deal with. But. By far, from what little I’ve read/listened to on the subject, MC was/is the bigger kook. It’s not even close. Also, Lakais are not all that good.
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I wish MJ was still active. He’s an alltimer.
Listening to him speak, for even a short time…like in that 9club where he breaks down what happened with him and crailcamp, he sounds kinda off. At the minimum tough to deal with. But. By far, from what little I’ve read/listened to on the subject, MC was/is the bigger kook. It’s not even close. Also, Lakais are not all that good.
It sucked to read. Both are all-time greats. Carroll is probably my favorite skater of all time, but MJ ain't far behind. But, I read it as Crail/MC kooking it more.
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Mike Carroll is a fluffer
So this guy left lakai cause he didn't get paid, signed on Adidas which he got paid well and in six years on this team he wasn't able to film even a decent 50sec of footage...wow...and people still blame Carroll.
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What if MJ is barely holding it together mentally. In this day and age of mental health awareness it seems petty to go after someone who gave everything to skateboarding. It would be tragic if something happened to him and all Slap could say was "I didn't know he was battling depression" but by all means, keep jabbing at him and others.
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It is crazy that besides that one video for his matchcourt colorway he did nothing for adidas.
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a tragic
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What if MJ is barely holding it together mentally. In this day and age of mental health awareness it seems petty to go after someone who gave everything to skateboarding. It would be tragic if something happened to him and all Slap could say was "I didn't know he was battling depression" but by all means, keep jabbing at him and others.
This. But apply it to everyone.
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I wish MJ was still active. He’s an alltimer.
Listening to him speak, for even a short time…like in that 9club where he breaks down what happened with him and crailcamp, he sounds kinda off. At the minimum tough to deal with. But. By far, from what little I’ve read/listened to on the subject, MC was/is the bigger kook. It’s not even close. Also, Lakais are not all that good.
let's not forget the MJ move to chocolate was advertised in mags as "a "mike carroll power move." With MJ later deciding to move to the non-core brand, im sure Craig felt as though they were in the right.
"I heard motherfuckers sayin' they made Hov
Made Hov say, "Okay, so make another Hov"- Jay-Z
like it or not, Craig/Carroll turned on Mj's ice & water and once parted, MJ wouldnt or couldn't get it together enough to be as great again elsewhere.
I blame Glenfiddich personally
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Just take your meds
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What if MJ is barely holding it together mentally. In this day and age of mental health awareness it seems petty to go after someone who gave everything to skateboarding. It would be tragic if something happened to him and all Slap could say was "I didn't know he was battling depression" but by all means, keep jabbing at him and others.
This. But apply it to everyone.
https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/marc-johnson-from-soty-to-hell-and-back-interview/ (https://www.thrashermagazine.com/articles/marc-johnson-from-soty-to-hell-and-back-interview/)
Well I remember reading this interview and when he talks about his divorce it gets heavy. I’d imagine going through that would take a serious mental toll, so could explain his lack of productivity.
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Mike Carroll is a fluffer
So this guy left lakai cause he didn't get paid, signed on Adidas which he got paid well and in six years on this team he wasn't able to film even a decent 50sec of footage...wow...and people still blame Carroll.
But he clearly filmed more than the rest of lakai team for the entire time he was on lakai so what's anything he does after lakai got to do with if it was he or Carroll being a dick.
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Mike Carroll is a fluffer
So this guy left lakai cause he didn't get paid, signed on Adidas which he got paid well and in six years on this team he wasn't able to film even a decent 50sec of footage...wow...and people still blame Carroll.
Yeah, he's had a couple of clips. About the same as some other guys who still get checks from Crailtap who aren't legends (Chris Roberts, Eldy, and while I think Jeron is a legend, MJ is a different level of one).
Lets just leave it at, we have a grown adult who failed to communicate at a basic level, and another who was making unreasonable demands of a long-time loyal employee who was also ultra productive. In the era of guys like Suciu or 3 part Soty runs this may sound crazy. But, I don't think there was a more productive pro between when Marc got on Lakai and Pretty Sweet. He was byfar Lakai and Chocolates most productive pro during his time there.
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Mike Carroll is a fluffer
So this guy left lakai cause he didn't get paid, signed on Adidas which he got paid well and in six years on this team he wasn't able to film even a decent 50sec of footage...wow...and people still blame Carroll.
Lets just leave it at, we have a grown adult who failed to communicate at a basic level, and another who was making unreasonable demands of a long-time loyal employee who was also ultra productive. In the era of guys like Suciu or 3 part Soty runs this may sound crazy. But, I don't think there was a more productive pro between when Marc got on Lakai and Pretty Sweet. He was byfar Lakai and Chocolates most productive pro during his time there.
Thank god someone finally said it.