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Title: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Molte on February 22, 2021, 04:41:32 AM
Does anybody keep track on specific pro's progression of board sizes through the years?

I got to think about it, as I saw BA's front blunt at Hubba in another thread. I'm not sure, but that photo is probably from around 98 or something, and his board could look like a size 8" which would be relatively large at the time, and I'd guess he would ride a 8.5 today.

I know, I'm just throwing numbers out there, without knowing anything concrete, but that's the point of the thread. It would be funny to see, if you could keep track on which pro's have been following trends of boards sizes going up, and which ones still ride the same same size as back then.

It's nerdy stuff and hard to keep track of, but interesting non the less. I can't contribute with anything my self, other than guesses at this point, but of course I'll chip in when I find anything myself.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: ok boomer on February 22, 2021, 04:45:53 AM
I've got a 2000 buyer's guide magazine where pros talk about this and most were riding 7.625 or 7.75 BUT Rowley was on 8, and BA I think was 8.5. Comparatively, I've got a mag from 06 where it seemed more 50/50 . Some 7.75 people then some 8 and 8.25.

Edit: BA said 8.25 - 8.75

Also think Reynolds and Arto were riding 8 or so back then
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: aksanaom on February 22, 2021, 04:55:28 AM
BA said on the nine club that he skates the 9in orange eagle shape now.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Frank on February 22, 2021, 06:14:50 AM
i think i read that cardiel skated super skinny decks for a dude who skates so burly. like not above 7.75. no idea if this is true or stayed that way until the accident.

jamie thomas in misled youth seemed to skate a comparatively wide deck at the time. looked like an 8 or 8.25 at least back then to me.

dave bachinsky has been on 7.4-7.6 forever.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: GlenSuggittsflexfit on February 22, 2021, 06:54:05 AM
i think i read that cardiel skated super skinny decks for a dude who skates so burly. like not above 7.75. no idea if this is true or stayed that way until the accident.

jamie thomas in misled youth seemed to skate a comparatively wide deck at the time. looked like an 8 or 8.25 at least back then to me.

dave bachinsky has been on 7.4-7.6 forever.
I was looking at the 40 yr Thrasher cover of Cardiel boosting the hip (a la sight unseen) and I was thinking to myself what a tiny board he is riding. It looks like half the width of his foot.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Frank on February 22, 2021, 08:13:19 AM
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i think i read that cardiel skated super skinny decks for a dude who skates so burly. like not above 7.75. no idea if this is true or stayed that way until the accident.

jamie thomas in misled youth seemed to skate a comparatively wide deck at the time. looked like an 8 or 8.25 at least back then to me.

dave bachinsky has been on 7.4-7.6 forever.
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I was looking at the 40 yr Thrasher cover of Cardiel boosting the hip (a la sight unseen) and I was thinking to myself what a tiny board he is riding. It looks like half the width of his foot.

yeah, in that part you can see it pretty good, his board looks a bit monster truckish, with the relatively big and wide wheels but his decks look rather pointy and slim as far as one can make it out.

i got my first wide board relatively early due to misled youth and what i said about jamie thomas. adrian lopez also had sort of a sick looking setup in that video. big wheels, wide board. those parts made me want to skate bigger wheels and a wider board. then i was skating 8s for a while as far as i could find em, most shops would only carry 7 7/8. later on i sized down to 7.75 again. i think i've been skating 8 plus size since at least 2006.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Pete on February 22, 2021, 08:45:28 AM
around mosaic when 7.4 wenning boards were selling out and not considered minis, i remember reading a reynolds interview saying he had custom 8.25's made for him with his graphics. because nobody skated anything above an 8 at that time and even that was big.

now if i skate anything under 8.75 it feels small.  BA has been living and skating in jersey with my boys the past few years, skates the 9x33 ah shape btw.


free max b
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Molte on February 22, 2021, 09:38:40 AM
I've got a 2000 buyer's guide magazine where pros talk about this and most were riding 7.625 or 7.75 BUT Rowley was on 8, and BA I think was 8.5. Comparatively, I've got a mag from 06 where it seemed more 50/50 . Some 7.75 people then some 8 and 8.25.

Edit: BA said 8.25 - 8.75

Also think Reynolds and Arto were riding 8 or so back then
Don't mind bringing in some actual numbers and names. That would be sick!
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Alan on February 22, 2021, 09:40:41 AM
Does anybody keep track on specific pro's progression of board sizes through the years?

I got to think about it, as I saw BA's front blunt at Hubba in another thread. I'm not sure, but that photo is probably from around 98 or something, and his board could look like a size 8" which would be relatively large at the time, and I'd guess he would ride a 8.5 today.

I know, I'm just throwing numbers out there, without knowing anything concrete, but that's the point of the thread. It would be funny to see, if you could keep track on which pro's have been following trends of boards sizes going up, and which ones still ride the same same size as back then.

It's nerdy stuff and hard to keep track of, but interesting non the less. I can't contribute with anything my self, other than guesses at this point, but of course I'll chip in when I find anything myself.

I'm almost sure that that board is 8.5. It's a Think Matt Pailes board. This was the time when massive boards and big wheels were in vogue.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1f/b7/2d/1fb72d499ae454d572742b51b9aaaa49.jpg)
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: ok boomer on February 22, 2021, 09:56:29 AM
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I've got a 2000 buyer's guide magazine where pros talk about this and most were riding 7.625 or 7.75 BUT Rowley was on 8, and BA I think was 8.5. Comparatively, I've got a mag from 06 where it seemed more 50/50 . Some 7.75 people then some 8 and 8.25.

Edit: BA said 8.25 - 8.75

Also think Reynolds and Arto were riding 8 or so back then
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Don't mind bringing in some actual numbers and names. That would be sick!

I'll mess with it when I get home from work, I keep that mag handy in my office at home. There's a weird batch of pros in the 2000 one: Danny Way, Colin McKay, Chad Fernandez (7 7/8), Rowley, BA, Reese Forbes (7 5/8), and a few others. I have a few more after 2000 that are also handy. I think in other mags (Thrasher probably) I read the thing about Arto and Reynolds.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: hobochimp on February 22, 2021, 09:56:51 AM
Iíve searched out a lot of info in the past about BAís setups out of curiosity as a taller guy myself. Thereís an interview with him and cardiel just talking and I believe this is where he says it, but it could be another video. He says that he was pretty sure his front blunt at hubba was an 8.25 because thatís the biggest he could find at the time. Nowadays based on things he has said and his photos and ig clips he is mostly riding the 9 inch orange eagle although he has also said his ďnormalĒ setup is the antihero 8.6 shape. Heís also pictured a lot on the white eagle which is 8.75. Dude is talented enough to skate whatever it seems like which is sick


Cardiel I have heard always skated 7.5 with Indy 129s


Reynolds is interesting to me because he seems to fluctuate a lot more than many pros. Seems like guys either stuck with what they started with and were used to or settled on around 8.25. Reynolds is on record on everything from 8-8.5 but always 139 trucks. Iím also assuming similar wb. Probably makes it easy to switch sizes when you donít mess much with length and wb and keep same trucks and wheels


Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 22, 2021, 10:11:01 AM
I remember a Chico quote from a TWS buyers guide from the late 2000s saying ďfor me, 7.75 is the best all around sizeĒ or something to that effect.
He went from skating that size to skating..... well, just check his IG to see what weird size/shape heís skating this week.

Also, Wade D went from skating 7.4s and 7.5s all throughout his Itís Official part to being on an 8.1 now.

P-Rod also used to be on a 7.75 in the 2000s and early 2010s but gradually moved up and is now on an 8.25 now.

Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Fooj on February 22, 2021, 10:19:21 AM
Man, 7.4s seemed to be the magic sauce back in the day. 

Seems like today 7.75" is the new 7.4", 8" is the 7.5", 8.25" is the 7.75", and 8.5" is the new 8". Crazy how times change
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: ballintoohard on February 22, 2021, 10:43:52 AM
BA used to skate the Toy Machine fists decks exclusively, which came in 8, 8.5, and 8.75 on occasion. A friend back then was working for Tum Yeto and Iíd see BA often at skateparks in the Bay and always ask him. He said heíd prefer the 8.5, but theyíd often send him the other sizes and put them on the same trucks.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: coldbrew on February 22, 2021, 11:06:28 AM
I remember a Chico quote from a TWS buyers guide from the late 2000s saying ďfor me, 7.75 is the best all around sizeĒ or something to that effect.
He went from skating that size to skating..... well, just check his IG to see what weird size/shape heís skating this week.

Also, Wade D went from skating 7.4s and 7.5s all throughout his Itís Official part to being on an 8.1 now.

P-Rod also used to be on a 7.75 in the 2000s and early 2010s but gradually moved up and is now on an 8.25 now.

last I saw he was skating a literal 2x4 haha
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Mr. Stinky on February 22, 2021, 11:49:46 AM
Genuinely incredible how easy it is for BA to throw switch 360 flips on a board that size, especially with his being something of an elder statesman at this point. Maybe wider boards became more popular as new shapes and concaves emerged about 10-15 years back, making it easier to do more technical skating with more wood underfoot? 

I thought I was riding boards on the wider side by skating 7.875"s through probably 2002-3.  I ripped on my friends who skated 8" boards like they were riding a whole ass sheet of plywood, even though my first board (in 1998) was a shop deck that must have been 8.5".  (I still learned to ollie and kickflip on that fucker.)  I recently saw a kid at the park riding what appeared to be a 10" uncut blank with Indy 215s, which in my opinion is effectively riding an entire sheet of plywood, so it appears the times and circumstances have caught up to my earlier perceptions.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: IusedToSkateMore on February 22, 2021, 12:39:22 PM
Iíve searched out a lot of info in the past about BAís setups out of curiosity as a taller guy myself. Thereís an interview with him and cardiel just talking and I believe this is where he says it, but it could be another video. He says that he was pretty sure his front blunt at hubba was an 8.25 because thatís the biggest he could find at the time. Nowadays based on things he has said and his photos and ig clips he is mostly riding the 9 inch orange eagle although he has also said his ďnormalĒ setup is the antihero 8.6 shape. Heís also pictured a lot on the white eagle which is 8.75. Dude is talented enough to skate whatever it seems like which is sick


Cardiel I have heard always skated 7.5 with Indy 129s


Reynolds is interesting to me because he seems to fluctuate a lot more than many pros. Seems like guys either stuck with what they started with and were used to or settled on around 8.25. Reynolds is on record on everything from 8-8.5 but always 139 trucks. Iím also assuming similar wb. Probably makes it easy to switch sizes when you donít mess much with length and wb and keep same trucks and wheels

that's fucking nuts. I feel like I'm going to fall over standing on something like that. he's not a tall dude, ya?
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: ballintoohard on February 22, 2021, 12:45:08 PM
BA has size 13.5 or 14 feet and he's 6 foot 4. Wheelbases were not very big back then and boards were often shorter, so it probably felt fine.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: joaopedro on February 22, 2021, 01:33:35 PM
I skate 7.75... I can skate whatever size, I just choose to use a smaller board

people are too hipster nowdays, mothafuckas talk like board size is a football team, and the discussion looks like people discussing football in a bar lol who gives a fuck

I skated with alex carolino here in br, he skates 7.6, a homie that skates my park uses almost a 9, who cares?

a board size will not make you skate better or worse, theres no proven science behind it.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Molte on February 22, 2021, 02:33:12 PM
The way the trucks looks so small next to the wheels made me guess about the 8"
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/f7b7b973e8f128095527f5f287518b4e/tumblr_n42259goU11ro45e4o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: ok boomer on February 22, 2021, 05:05:05 PM
2000:
McCrank 7.75-7.88
Chad Fernandez 7 7/8
Ethan Fowler: "a little but under 8"
Alan Peterson 8
Tony Hawk almost 8.25
Colin McKay 7.75 (street)
Reese Forbes 7 5/8
BA 8.25-8.75
Rowley just below 8 (but talks about riding 8s)
Caballero 7 7/8
Kalis 7.5

2005:
Duffel 8.5
Ragdoll 8.25
Sheckler 7.5 (15 years old)
Senn 8
Willy Santos 8.25
Barletta 7.4
Markovich "really skinny boards"

2006:
Ramondetta 8.125
Busenitz 7.75
Arto "a little over 8"
Jake Brown 8.25
Rupp 7 5/8
Janoski "just under 8"
Paul Shier 7.75
Romero "just under 8"
Biebel 7 5/8
Omar Salazar 7.75
Clint Peterson 7.75
Tosh 7.75

2007:
Tim Tim 7.5
Templeton 8.25
Berry 7.9
McCrank 7.8125
Salazar 7.85
Duffel 8.25
Heath 8
Kenny Anderson-custom (no number)
Hsu 7.6
Stehr 7.875
Hassan 8
Sandoval 8.25
Melcher 8
Romero 7.88
Danny Montoya 7.625
Ave 7.75
Austin Stephens 7.75
Rob G 8
Staba 8.38
Dressen 8.25
Brockman 7.875
Arto 8
Marks 7.625
Cobra Cole 8.5
Herman 8.19
Don "the Nuge" Nguyen 8.25
Tosh 7.875
MJ "custom", mentions thunder 145 so I assume under 8
Wilt 7.5
Adelmo Jr. 7.625
M. Ball 8.19
Horsey Taylor 7.82
A. Lopez 7.75 - 8
Braydon 7.88
Harmony 7.875
Senn 8
Sumner 8.25
P Rod 7.5 - 7.625
Rattray 8
Kalis 7.5
Greathouse 7.75
Carroll 7.875
Mumford 8
Atchley 7.5
Jamie 7.875
Danny Way 7.75 street 8 vert 8.25 mega
Jereme 7.75
Daewon 7.6
Stevie 7.56
Zered 7.65

Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Croquet temper on February 22, 2021, 05:50:07 PM
Once again, Corey Duffel ahead of his time
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Prostate Exam on February 22, 2021, 11:49:55 PM
What always tripped me out is the fact that most of the vert legends started out on really bulky fat pig shaped boards such as Hawk on the old Powell Boards etc. Then they went on in the 90s with smaller shapes with noses but still in the 9.5-10' range.
 And nowadays they ride very small (8 - 8.5) boards on vert.

I can see the benefit a smaller board gives you on street but I always found it very hard to slim down my board size. It was always easier to increase the size of your board rather than slimming it down.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: funeral_tuxedo on February 23, 2021, 03:43:54 AM
I skate 7.75... I can skate whatever size, I just choose to use a smaller board

people are too hipster nowdays, mothafuckas talk like board size is a football team, and the discussion looks like people discussing football in a bar lol who gives a fuck

I skated with alex carolino here in br, he skates 7.6, a homie that skates my park uses almost a 9, who cares?

a board size will not make you skate better or worse, theres no proven science behind it.

I need to rethink my entire approach to life now as I've been too hipster and not enough Alex Caralino? Thanks for getting me back on course @joaopedro 
Anyways, I tried to find it online and failed miserably, but that old Foundation ad where a young Heath Kirchart is doing the first kf front board down a rail (maybe). and the ad describes him riding an 8.5 tripped me out.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Alan on February 23, 2021, 07:29:21 AM
I remember that Heath ad. The board looked enormous for sure.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Krooked antihero on February 23, 2021, 09:28:32 AM
Arto said in some old Finnish interview he rode 8.5Ē blanks from some other woodshop with flip sticker on it because their woodshop didnít made boards wide enough for him.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Dwyck on February 23, 2021, 10:26:10 AM
who cares?

Everyone in this thread you decided to open and post something stupid in, who have gathered to discuss the board sizes of professional skateboarders on a skateboard forum about skateboarding
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Molte on February 23, 2021, 10:58:42 AM
2000:
McCrank 7.75-7.88
Chad Fernandez 7 7/8
Ethan Fowler: "a little but under 8"
Alan Peterson 8
Tony Hawk almost 8.25
Colin McKay 7.75 (street)
Reese Forbes 7 5/8
BA 8.25-8.75
Rowley just below 8 (but talks about riding 8s)
Caballero 7 7/8
Kalis 7.5

2005:
Duffel 8.5
Ragdoll 8.25
Sheckler 7.5 (15 years old)
Senn 8
Willy Santos 8.25
Barletta 7.4
Markovich "really skinny boards"

2006:
Ramondetta 8.125
Busenitz 7.75
Arto "a little over 8"
Jake Brown 8.25
Rupp 7 5/8
Janoski "just under 8"
Paul Shier 7.75
Romero "just under 8"
Biebel 7 5/8
Omar Salazar 7.75
Clint Peterson 7.75
Tosh 7.75

2007:
Tim Tim 7.5
Templeton 8.25
Berry 7.9
McCrank 7.8125
Salazar 7.85
Duffel 8.25
Heath 8
Kenny Anderson-custom (no number)
Hsu 7.6
Stehr 7.875
Hassan 8
Sandoval 8.25
Melcher 8
Romero 7.88
Danny Montoya 7.625
Ave 7.75
Austin Stephens 7.75
Rob G 8
Staba 8.38
Dressen 8.25
Brockman 7.875
Arto 8
Marks 7.625
Cobra Cole 8.5
Herman 8.19
Don "the Nuge" Nguyen 8.25
Tosh 7.875
MJ "custom", mentions thunder 145 so I assume under 8
Wilt 7.5
Adelmo Jr. 7.625
M. Ball 8.19
Horsey Taylor 7.82
A. Lopez 7.75 - 8
Braydon 7.88
Harmony 7.875
Senn 8
Sumner 8.25
P Rod 7.5 - 7.625
Rattray 8
Kalis 7.5
Greathouse 7.75
Carroll 7.875
Mumford 8
Atchley 7.5
Jamie 7.875
Danny Way 7.75 street 8 vert 8.25 mega
Jereme 7.75
Daewon 7.6
Stevie 7.56
Zered 7.65
Have a gnar!
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: codymacfan on February 23, 2021, 11:33:52 AM
Ben Degros just received P-Rod's current setup in his latest video and it was an 8.25: https://youtu.be/zOxBDReN0po

10-11 years ago, Paul was riding 7.75
https://youtu.be/6YjkUKm4aMU

but was riding 8.1 as recent as 5 years ago
https://youtu.be/22-ovj53Jjc

Sounds exactly like my board progression throughout the years.



Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: GumOnMyGrip on February 23, 2021, 11:44:51 AM
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I've got a 2000 buyer's guide magazine where pros talk about this and most were riding 7.625 or 7.75 BUT Rowley was on 8, and BA I think was 8.5. Comparatively, I've got a mag from 06 where it seemed more 50/50 . Some 7.75 people then some 8 and 8.25.

Edit: BA said 8.25 - 8.75

Also think Reynolds and Arto were riding 8 or so back then
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Don't mind bringing in some actual numbers and names. That would be sick!
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I'll mess with it when I get home from work, I keep that mag handy in my office at home. There's a weird batch of pros in the 2000 one: Danny Way, Colin McKay, Chad Fernandez (7 7/8), Rowley, BA, Reese Forbes (7 5/8), and a few others. I have a few more after 2000 that are also handy. I think in other mags (Thrasher probably) I read the thing about Arto and Reynolds.


I remember an interview where Reese said he only like small boards and short tails so he could pop super quick. Definitely worked for him.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: CrappyChan on February 23, 2021, 12:12:04 PM
I think it boils down to your shoe size alot more than people really think about. I'm a 10.5 so 8.5-8.6 feels like the perfect street board. I can do all my flip tricks and still feel comfy rolling in a bowl. Alot of pros have tiny feet. GT wears a size 9, lots of pros wear a size 8. For them a 8.25 or 8.12 is probably the same as an 8.5 for me.

You know what they say... Big feet
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/jPSGBcqwWGH5U5E6oHJBjoz1Z2razbV3hAw40b6kIdLw6pTttfO5TLRCgwKxyMtGjm50Epoa1jcP3vGaH2ut3y8f34LfMKOFcedlWsYGPNQYYdz9KW0CZLDRJbR7xG4ozDd-2Slrxfr6xhukdsajnzLPy8UpVoRjrqg)
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: ok boomer on February 23, 2021, 12:16:01 PM
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I've got a 2000 buyer's guide magazine where pros talk about this and most were riding 7.625 or 7.75 BUT Rowley was on 8, and BA I think was 8.5. Comparatively, I've got a mag from 06 where it seemed more 50/50 . Some 7.75 people then some 8 and 8.25.

Edit: BA said 8.25 - 8.75

Also think Reynolds and Arto were riding 8 or so back then
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Don't mind bringing in some actual numbers and names. That would be sick!
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I'll mess with it when I get home from work, I keep that mag handy in my office at home. There's a weird batch of pros in the 2000 one: Danny Way, Colin McKay, Chad Fernandez (7 7/8), Rowley, BA, Reese Forbes (7 5/8), and a few others. I have a few more after 2000 that are also handy. I think in other mags (Thrasher probably) I read the thing about Arto and Reynolds.
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I remember an interview where Reese said he only like small boards and short tails so he could pop super quick. Definitely worked for him.

I had a few of his boards back then. 7.625 and 7.5 I believe. I even tried the Destructos that he was using, did not help me.
I was a total nerd for that "World tour" era of Element. Note: Reese rides Indys now and I believe he is on or around 8.25s

I should have also 2002 or 2003 of that mag but I haven't found it yet.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: ok boomer on February 23, 2021, 12:24:13 PM
I think it boils down to your shoe size alot more than people really think about. I'm a 10.5 so 8.5-8.6 feels like the perfect street board. I can do all my flip tricks and still feel comfy rolling in a bowl. Alot of pros have tiny feet. GT wears a size 9, lots of pros wear a size 8. For them a 8.25 or 8.12 is probably the same as an 8.5 for me.

You know what they say... Big feet
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/jPSGBcqwWGH5U5E6oHJBjoz1Z2razbV3hAw40b6kIdLw6pTttfO5TLRCgwKxyMtGjm50Epoa1jcP3vGaH2ut3y8f34LfMKOFcedlWsYGPNQYYdz9KW0CZLDRJbR7xG4ozDd-2Slrxfr6xhukdsajnzLPy8UpVoRjrqg)

I've wondered that as well. I mentioned in my 7.75 thread, that having control over the board is something that I need, and with my size 8 hooves, I only feel that control with smaller boards. BUT also, wonder if I'm just so used to the smaller boards because I skated more during those sizes being popular. 8 feels okay to me but I skated so many 7.5's and 7.625s in my life that they are my fave. I've also wondered if shoe style has a lot to do with it also. During the small board era, most of the shoes were huge. And then the trend went to smaller/thinner shoes and bigger boards. Also wondered if that cancels each other out?
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: FrozenIndustries on February 23, 2021, 02:08:33 PM
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I think it boils down to your shoe size alot more than people really think about. I'm a 10.5 so 8.5-8.6 feels like the perfect street board. I can do all my flip tricks and still feel comfy rolling in a bowl. Alot of pros have tiny feet. GT wears a size 9, lots of pros wear a size 8. For them a 8.25 or 8.12 is probably the same as an 8.5 for me.

You know what they say... Big feet
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/jPSGBcqwWGH5U5E6oHJBjoz1Z2razbV3hAw40b6kIdLw6pTttfO5TLRCgwKxyMtGjm50Epoa1jcP3vGaH2ut3y8f34LfMKOFcedlWsYGPNQYYdz9KW0CZLDRJbR7xG4ozDd-2Slrxfr6xhukdsajnzLPy8UpVoRjrqg)
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I've wondered that as well. I mentioned in my 7.75 thread, that having control over the board is something that I need, and with my size 8 hooves, I only feel that control with smaller boards. BUT also, wonder if I'm just so used to the smaller boards because I skated more during those sizes being popular. 8 feels okay to me but I skated so many 7.5's and 7.625s in my life that they are my fave. I've also wondered if shoe style has a lot to do with it also. During the small board era, most of the shoes were huge. And then the trend went to smaller/thinner shoes and bigger boards. Also wondered if that cancels each other out?

It's weird because compared to your kicks or wheelbase, width is probably the least important dimension of a board. But it is also the primary standard of measurement when we talk about what we skate (IRL, the gear section on here doesn't count). And while there is some relativity at play for sure, I think shoe size is the main thing with width. Im a size 11, so the range of widths I skate is going to skew wider than what you like as as a size 8. But then within those ranges, it ends up just being a matter of preference, probably a bunch of which is aesthetic.

Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Noble Experiment on February 23, 2021, 03:25:04 PM
Someone scanned the TWS 2010 buyers guide issue in itís entirety and put it up in PDF form. The PDF file can be found here.

https://skatemagarchive.blogspot.com/2018/04/transworld-skateboarding-buyers-guide.html?m=1

This is right around the time when a lot of pros were transitioning to wider boards (8.0+) but also when a lot of pros were still stuck on skinnier decks as well, you can definitely see a change starting to happen though when reading a lot of the pros answers on their board size compared to what they were riding a year or two back before this tho.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Reed Richards on February 23, 2021, 03:36:49 PM
I feel like board size as a whole is cyclical, and sub-8 inch boards will make a comeback when people realize they can be flipped easier.  Eventually I hope companies embrace skinnier boards they same way they do 8.5s and up nowadays.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Mr. Stinky on February 23, 2021, 03:42:30 PM
Someone scanned the TWS 2010 buyers guide issue in itís entirety and put it up in PDF form. The PDF file can be found here.

https://skatemagarchive.blogspot.com/2018/04/transworld-skateboarding-buyers-guide.html?m=1

This is right around the time when a lot of pros were transitioning to wider boards (8.0+) but also when a lot of pros were still stuck on skinnier decks as well, you can definitely see a change starting to happen though when reading a lot of the pros answers on their board size compared to what they were riding a year or two back before this tho.

I was astounded to see that Greco was skating 129s on an 8.5.  Had to smile a little at "Spitfire 52mm--not sponsored by them, but I would love to be." Also of note: Jon Goemann claiming Panera Bread as a sponsor.

Not at all germane to this thread, but the those Vans TNT Mid II Cups from the ad in the first several pages are absolutely sick.  Vans is blowing it, unambiguously, by not putting a Dunk knock off like that in their line.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: quesly on February 23, 2021, 05:14:12 PM
Also of note: Rick impersonating Guy

(https://i.imgur.com/ze4PXzs.png)
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 23, 2021, 05:33:59 PM

Not at all germane to this thread, but the those Vans TNT Mid II Cups from the ad in the first several pages are absolutely sick.  Vans is blowing it, unambiguously, by not putting a Dunk knock off like that in their line.

I had heard Vans almost collapsed because they were not geared to do cupsole shoes, only vulc shoes so when the big shoe thing came out and their expenses blew out because they had to essentially outsource their manufacturing to make what people were wanting in the cupsole tech type of shoes.  That was about the same time Rowley came along and brought it all back to simple vulc shoes or something to that effect. Seems of late they are trying to push boundaries again, but this time they are geared up to do it.

On board size, yeah there seem to be a lot of guys who used to ride smaller boards now going for slightly bigger boards, but only slightly.  Most of those guys are still riding what would be considered "smaller than average" boards, but people like BA who is still riding a popsicle 9 and some others on "old school shapes and sizes" are more the exception, from the older pros.

Newer pro kids coming up are all riding bigger boards because that is what they are used to riding, so it is interesting for those who have the 90s as their pro era vs those who are in the 00, 10s or even 2020+

Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Molte on February 24, 2021, 03:09:14 AM
Also of note: Rick impersonating Guy

(https://i.imgur.com/ze4PXzs.png)
8 inch board on 159 Indy's, that must be a typo!
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Mbrimson88 on February 24, 2021, 08:18:19 AM

8 inch board on 159 Indy's, that must be a typo!

I would say so, maybe the person entering it had hand written info and the 3 looked like a 5 (as he was on 139s) but some of these guys still don't really know what they are riding and being "shop guy" I often got to check out their boards during signings and demos.

Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Winford Thomas on February 24, 2021, 08:59:02 AM
I feel like board size as a whole is cyclical, and sub-8 inch boards will make a comeback when people realize they can be flipped easier.  Eventually I hope companies embrace skinnier boards they same way they do 8.5s and up nowadays.

i agree with you it does seem to go in cycles. by the late 1970s everything from 7" to 10" wide was already happening.

(http://www.calstreets.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/280_Gordon_Smith_Cover_the_spectrum-10050.jpg)

i bet to this day most pros and everyday skaters use a variety of sizes over their skate careers.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: The real veganshawn on February 24, 2021, 11:36:52 AM
I remember hearing pros riding wide boards but selling small ones with their names on it because no one would buy the one they rode.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: Ok on February 24, 2021, 03:48:00 PM
Dope thread. I love this kind of stuff. Itís interesting to watch how the gear trends change. I also like knowing what peak Cardiel was riding. Did PJ size up? WHL vs plan b? Itís funny seeing certain people riding just one setup, and sticking to it: JB Gillet, and Gino both looked like they had 7 7/8 size boards with 5.2 loís, which was kind of big, and now they look to ride the same, and itís fairly small. Puleo skating all of those crusty spots on what looks like 5.0 venture loís and 50s....and then itís interesting to see which era people stick with. Like Sheffey. Heís the best ever in the life video, and yet he still skates a board that looks straight out of 1996 (from what I can tell). The Cardiel thing was a trip. This hesh dude in my town would always skate bigger boards and clown us for skating small world boards. He skated burnside for awhile and came back on the 7.5 and 129s. My favorite is to hear the justifications that I and others make, when following the trends. Plenty of fools out here crop dusting flip tricks on boards way way bigger than what D.Way jumped the Great Wall of China on. Whatever gets you hyped. I canít stick with anything so I sure as hell dunno.
Anyways, hopefully I get to read more pros setups. I had that 2010 buyers guide. Lots of funky setups as people were caught changing their setups: 145s, and 8.2Ē decks....etc. wish I had some other issues.
The dr t should be reissued.
Title: Re: Progression of board sizes for pro's through the years
Post by: corto on February 24, 2021, 07:13:07 PM
I skate 7.75... I can skate whatever size, I just choose to use a smaller board

people are too hipster nowdays, mothafuckas talk like board size is a football team, and the discussion looks like people discussing football in a bar lol who gives a fuck

I skated with alex carolino here in br, he skates 7.6, a homie that skates my park uses almost a 9, who cares?

a board size will not make you skate better or worse, theres no proven science behind it.

Wise words, it's primarily a matter of taste.

But isn't it obvious that a wider board will give your feet more space for flicking and landing? You dont't have to be as precise when flicking because there is more deck area for the side of your shoe to catch onto. A short but relatively wide board is probably the easiest board to do flip tricks on.