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Title: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Wandalumioshlomo on March 02, 2021, 07:47:41 AM
Seems like element is losing it. Real is kind of a natural fit for him.
What u think? is he gonna stay on ship and be part of a new cpr indused Element reincarnation.
Does he even have the opportunity to be where he deserves to be (not necessarily Real, could be Krooked ;))

 
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: sometimeperhaps on March 02, 2021, 07:57:47 AM
I’d say keep cashing those element Cheques while they’re still (probably) fat. Everyone still loves him and he gets respect while riding for one of the most hated brands. I mean how long was he on Zoo York for? I think he likes riding for deck brands that are former shells of themselves. Once it implodes or he gets cut he’d have no problem getting on another brand.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Francis Xavier on March 02, 2021, 07:58:42 AM


Hmm...be lost in the sea of Real Pros or stay lost in the sea of Element Pros...he is basically the top dude at Element,I'm sure he is comfy- otherwise he would have left around the same time others did.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: gsosa on March 02, 2021, 08:02:21 AM
Homie just needs a fat check, as mentioned before he's never ridden for good board companies (nor has he needed them) and still has been producing and killing shit. I mean mid-2000s Birdhouse, then Zoo when it was wack, and then Element not really the dopest board brands.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: CHUTNi on March 02, 2021, 08:13:23 AM
Seems like element is losing it. Real is kind of a natural fit for him.
What u think? is he gonna stay on ship and be part of a new cpr indused Element reincarnation.
Does he even have the opportunity to be where he deserves to be (not necessarily Real, could be Krooked ;))

Could see Westgate on semi-retirement after his element contract.  Casually repping 5boro again while maintaining his cranberry farm
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: AfterBlackEnderEnder on March 02, 2021, 08:15:04 AM
That part was sick but he’s in the twilight of his career, at this point, and he has a comfortable paycheck at Element. The only thing that truly needs changing is your thread title.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: TwisT on March 02, 2021, 08:27:20 AM
Homie just needs a fat check, as mentioned before he's never ridden for good board companies (nor has he needed them) and still has been producing and killing shit. I mean mid-2000s Birdhouse, then Zoo when it was wack, and then Element not really the dopest board brands.

Naw, there was hot minute, that ZooYork was the shit Forrest, Westgate, Zerred, KT, Eli, Matt Miller, Barely and Ortiz. I wanna say from 2009 to 2011. Post Zooyork footwear era, but pre "why do we need to pay skateboarders?" era. They really had it together. Right before and right after State of mind came out.

Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on March 02, 2021, 08:37:23 AM
Good GOD NO! lol  I could see this tho for sure tho. I'd rather see him on Plan B that Real. Real needs to get it together. I guess you don't have to when you have Ishod.

Could see Westgate on semi-retirement after his element contract.  Casually repping 5boro again while maintaining his cranberry farm
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Lenny the Fatface on March 02, 2021, 08:38:32 AM
Westgate seems like he gives zero shit about what’s cool in skateboarding. Nothing wrong with that.

If I had to guess he values decent paychecks and having a loose leash more than anything, just based on his sponsorship history. Real would be dope, but would he be impressed by that company’s legacy?

Having a former pro with strong convictions on what skateboarding should be as his boss probably doesn’t move him the way it does for dudes who want core sponsors.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Mr Cheese Resurrection on March 02, 2021, 08:41:15 AM
Westgate on Creature would be........ I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance by switching to Geico. Your 2019 NBA Champions, The Toronto Raptors!!!!!!!!!....... Westgate has a fun bar scene in Glendale Arizona..... Timber the tree is falling!!!!!........ Westgate would be a sick fit on.........Texas Rangers lost back to back World Series in the early 2010s...... Westgate should go to Creature
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: TheFandangler on March 02, 2021, 08:42:47 AM
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Homie just needs a fat check, as mentioned before he's never ridden for good board companies (nor has he needed them) and still has been producing and killing shit. I mean mid-2000s Birdhouse, then Zoo when it was wack, and then Element not really the dopest board brands.
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Naw, there was hot minute, that ZooYork was the shit Forrest, Westgate, Zerred, KT, Eli, Matt Miller, Barely and Ortiz. I wanna say from 2009 to 2011. Post Zooyork footwear era, but pre "why do we need to pay skateboarders?" era. They really had it together. Right before and right after State of mind came out.

Yeah, I would agree with that. There was a little window of time right around State of Mind that Zoo was dope again. That video is so good. My favourite Zered part. Ron Deily! Eli before he started dancing. First legit introduction to Westgate.


And no, Westgate does not need to be on Real. Tbh, it would seem weird. If he weren't on Element, I could see him riding for Habitat or someone like that maybe.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: fredgallSOTY on March 02, 2021, 08:48:56 AM
Natty K
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: gsosa on March 02, 2021, 08:49:10 AM
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Homie just needs a fat check, as mentioned before he's never ridden for good board companies (nor has he needed them) and still has been producing and killing shit. I mean mid-2000s Birdhouse, then Zoo when it was wack, and then Element not really the dopest board brands.
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Naw, there was hot minute, that ZooYork was the shit Forrest, Westgate, Zerred, KT, Eli, Matt Miller, Barely and Ortiz. I wanna say from 2009 to 2011. Post Zooyork footwear era, but pre "why do we need to pay skateboarders?" era. They really had it together. Right before and right after State of mind came out.
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Yeah, I would agree with that. There was a little window of time right around State of Mind that Zoo was dope again. That video is so good. My favourite Zered part. Ron Deily! Eli before he started dancing. First legit introduction to Westgate.


And no, Westgate does not need to be on Real. Tbh, it would seem weird. If he weren't on Element, I could see him riding for Habitat or someone like that maybe.
Dnag I actually forgot about that, I retract my statement he was on Zoo when it was dope. I used to watch State of Mind all the time and suscribed to their video podcast they had really good content.

The only acceptable answer for me would if he went to Toy Machine. But as stated before it seems like he does not give a flying fuck about whats cool.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: fredgallSOTY on March 02, 2021, 08:50:47 AM
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Homie just needs a fat check, as mentioned before he's never ridden for good board companies (nor has he needed them) and still has been producing and killing shit. I mean mid-2000s Birdhouse, then Zoo when it was wack, and then Element not really the dopest board brands.
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Naw, there was hot minute, that ZooYork was the shit Forrest, Westgate, Zerred, KT, Eli, Matt Miller, Barely and Ortiz. I wanna say from 2009 to 2011. Post Zooyork footwear era, but pre "why do we need to pay skateboarders?" era. They really had it together. Right before and right after State of mind came out.
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Yeah, I would agree with that. There was a little window of time right around State of Mind that Zoo was dope again. That video is so good. My favourite Zered part. Ron Deily! Eli before he started dancing. First legit introduction to Westgate.


And no, Westgate does not need to be on Real. Tbh, it would seem weird. If he weren't on Element, I could see him riding for Habitat or someone like that maybe.
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Dnag I actually forgot about that, I retract my statement he was on Zoo when it was dope. I used to watch State of Mind all the time and suscribed to their video podcast they had really good content.

The only acceptable answer for me would if he went to Toy Machine. But as stated before it seems like he does not give a flying fuck about whats cool.
if thats the case then toy works too!
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: cookiecuttersuburb on March 02, 2021, 08:51:43 AM
Dudes getting comfy checks plus he has his cranberry operation. He’s doing just fine as is.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: TheFandangler on March 02, 2021, 08:54:21 AM
Good GOD NO! lol  I could see this tho for sure tho. I'd rather see him on Plan B that Real. Real needs to get it together. I guess you don't have to when you have Ishod.

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I mean, I don't disagree that Real's team is huge, but in what way does Real need to "get it together"? They just put on the guy who won SOTY, their distribution is probably the most respected in the industry, they have Busenitz, TVV is amazing to watch, pretty sure they still hook up Antoine Asselin, Ishod like you mentioned, the list goes on. Why would you rather see someone as dope as Westgate on a dumpster fire brand like PLan B? I understand that some of Real's art direction is boring, but it doesn't even come close to the garbage put out by Plan B.

Think of it this way, who would you rather see Westgate skate with: Leticia, Joslin and Pat Duffy; or Ishod, Mason and Busenitz?

I don't even think he would fit on Real that well, but what you're saying is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Circaskater420 on March 02, 2021, 08:55:14 AM
Real already has their own version of Brandon Westgate.  His name is Mason Silva
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: fredgallSOTY on March 02, 2021, 08:58:49 AM
Real already has their own version of Brandon Westgate.  His name is Mason Silva FredGallSOTY
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Reed Richards on March 02, 2021, 09:00:49 AM
Didn't he say somewhere that he's more focused on providing for his family instead of jumping to a better brand?  He's the last man standing at Element since Nyjah and his tights left, amongst other people.  Might as well get that check, plus that New Balance money.  He's got the right idea.  Sidebar, but him being a cranberry farm heir is pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: IpathCats on March 02, 2021, 09:18:55 AM
Would be cool to see him on some core east coast shit. 5boro, scumco, CODA. He definitely wouldn't be making anywhere near that element money though.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Francis Xavier on March 02, 2021, 09:26:24 AM
Didn't he say somewhere that he's more focused on providing for his family instead of jumping to a better brand?  He's the last man standing at Element since Nyjah and his tights left, amongst other people.  Might as well get that check, plus that New Balance money.  He's got the right idea.  Sidebar, but him being a cranberry farm heir is pretty sweet.
Nyjah and his merry men
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Grind King Rims on March 02, 2021, 09:37:47 AM


Hmm...be lost in the sea of Real Pros or stay lost in the sea of Element Pros...he is basically the top dude at Element,I'm sure he is comfy- otherwise he would have left around the same time others did.

Wow, he actually is. You could argue Appleyard or Jaakko, but it seems like Westgate is in a league of his own there right now.

https://elementbrand.com/team/


But yeah, the obvious answer is that he doesn't care about what's cool as long as he's getting paid (as evidence by his working with Berries, CCS, AllIneedskate [his homie]). And I can't fault him for that at all.

I'm just happy he's getting paid and still ripping.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: SatanicPanic on March 02, 2021, 09:43:32 AM
Westgate is really good but Real doesn’t need him- they’ve got three SOTYs that are all still really productive, plus TVV, Zion, Busenitz and Chima. I’m not trying to take away from Westgate but the current Real team is one of the best teams ever and it doesn’t seem like jumping to Real to be the number 4 or 5 guy there makes sense for him either.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: oyolar on March 02, 2021, 09:56:09 AM
Westgate would get lost on Real. I’d definitely rather see him stand out on something like Toy Machine whenever he leaves Element. I know it was a few years ago, but I remember Leo basically said in an interview he helped conduct with Brandon that he has an open invite on Toy whenever he wants it. 

After FA started and before AWS imploded, when it seemed they were going to try to make it work with Gilbert, Jake, Tyler, and Omar, I thought it would be cool to have Westgate on there. So maybe throw everyone off and put him on Quasi? It seems like they like to let their riders be themselves and control how they want to skate and for their skating to be shown and it’s working for them.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: hobochimp on March 02, 2021, 09:58:35 AM
For some reason I very briefly thought west gate was on Quasi and so now my brain forever associates him with quasi. I don’t see that actually ever happening but I would not be opposed to seeing him on that crew
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: GreggPopovich on March 02, 2021, 10:00:19 AM
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Good GOD NO! lol  I could see this tho for sure tho. I'd rather see him on Plan B that Real. Real needs to get it together. I guess you don't have to when you have Ishod.

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Could see Westgate on semi-retirement after his element contract.  Casually repping 5boro again while maintaining his cranberry farm
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I mean, I don't disagree that Real's team is huge, but in what way does Real need to "get it together"? They just put on the guy who won SOTY, their distribution is probably the most respected in the industry, they have Busenitz, TVV is amazing to watch, pretty sure they still hook up Antoine Asselin, Ishod like you mentioned, the list goes on. Why would you rather see someone as dope as Westgate on a dumpster fire brand like PLan B? I understand that some of Real's art direction is boring, but it doesn't even come close to the garbage put out by Plan B.

Think of it this way, who would you rather see Westgate skate with: Leticia, Joslin and Pat Duffy; or Ishod, Mason and Busenitz?

I don't even think he would fit on Real that well, but what you're saying is ridiculous.

Westgate has reached a height the only way he could generate more visibility is going the && route and started organically connecting with people more. It does not really fucking matter from a monetary perspective I bet because I guarantee Deluxe would salary match, so from his standpoint business wise, then it becomes a visibility standpoint unless his other sponsors are coupled(like FA and modern shoes, Lakai with Girl, etc.) because the price difference comes down to royalties. Why do you guys think Lebron did not consider my spurs? NBA players get paid on jersey royalty unlike other pro sports leagues, so he's gonna pick the biggest media market.

At least with element he does not have to compete with Ishod, Kwalks, or whoever's money, and his visbility is less. why in his right mind would he go to real? The only logical option he would have at his level would to go into intellectual property for himself, IE instagram and social media visbility, and his OWN branding. if he did in fact want to achieve more financially.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Boog on March 02, 2021, 10:06:03 AM
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: IpathCats on March 02, 2021, 10:14:47 AM
Quasi would be a cool fit for him too. I agree with that sentiment.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: ballintoohard on March 02, 2021, 10:22:50 AM
I don't care what brand he rides, but like that he's always done his own thing and has not given a shit about navigating the dumbfuckery of the skate scene.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: tortfeasor on March 02, 2021, 10:35:53 AM
he seems to have total freedom with element. they give him his space to film when and how he pleases. he probably can just grab whatever filmer and take (or not) whatever trips he wants no questions asked. plus he probably never has to worry about the checks being "late" or suspicious accounting.  why would he leave a good thing for a "cool" thing?

in return element gets a self driven skater who can self-promote, never complains, doesn't need special attention, and they never really have to worry about him piling out or saying something dumb shit on social media.   

its a win-win
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: jorge on March 02, 2021, 10:54:39 AM
Westgate goes big, fast, doesn't care, doesn't produce a ton of footage, and basically owns SF.....
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Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: ok boomer on March 02, 2021, 10:59:57 AM
I'd be hyped if he was on Terror of Planet X or Metal skateboards
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: shannamal on March 02, 2021, 11:03:38 AM
your title gave me a stroke
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: DannyDee on March 02, 2021, 11:07:00 AM
Outside of 5boro, he's always had pretty terrible board sponsors. He'd fit Real or Toy Machine. But, I'd love to see him on some sick East-coast non-Cali based company like Quasi or Habitat (both are out of Ohio, but have generally sponsored a ton of East-coast based skaters).
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: witty pseudonym on March 02, 2021, 12:07:20 PM
Would buy his Toy Machine board in a second, also, what the fuck happened to Toy Machine?  I wish they were still relevant. 
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: ThisFuckingDude on March 02, 2021, 12:12:26 PM
If I were him I stay there and milk the good checks and having the freedom to do what I want unless they go under. Actually without Jah the team ain’t to bad at this point. Especially now that Johnny Bongos is gone.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Theme For A Jackal on March 02, 2021, 12:20:31 PM
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Homie just needs a fat check, as mentioned before he's never ridden for good board companies (nor has he needed them) and still has been producing and killing shit. I mean mid-2000s Birdhouse, then Zoo when it was wack, and then Element not really the dopest board brands.
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Naw, there was hot minute, that ZooYork was the shit Forrest, Westgate, Zerred, KT, Eli, Matt Miller, Barely and Ortiz. I wanna say from 2009 to 2011. Post Zooyork footwear era, but pre "why do we need to pay skateboarders?" era. They really had it together. Right before and right after State of mind came out.
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Yeah, I would agree with that. There was a little window of time right around State of Mind that Zoo was dope again. That video is so good. My favourite Zered part. Ron Deily! Eli before he started dancing. First legit introduction to Westgate.


And no, Westgate does not need to be on Real. Tbh, it would seem weird. If he weren't on Element, I could see him riding for Habitat or someone like that maybe.

Westgate as a skater on Real makes sense to me but Westgate as a person/team rider on Real does not
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: oyolar on March 02, 2021, 12:28:14 PM
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Good GOD NO! lol  I could see this tho for sure tho. I'd rather see him on Plan B that Real. Real needs to get it together. I guess you don't have to when you have Ishod.

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Could see Westgate on semi-retirement after his element contract.  Casually repping 5boro again while maintaining his cranberry farm
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I mean, I don't disagree that Real's team is huge, but in what way does Real need to "get it together"? They just put on the guy who won SOTY, their distribution is probably the most respected in the industry, they have Busenitz, TVV is amazing to watch, pretty sure they still hook up Antoine Asselin, Ishod like you mentioned, the list goes on. Why would you rather see someone as dope as Westgate on a dumpster fire brand like PLan B? I understand that some of Real's art direction is boring, but it doesn't even come close to the garbage put out by Plan B.

Think of it this way, who would you rather see Westgate skate with: Leticia, Joslin and Pat Duffy; or Ishod, Mason and Busenitz?

I don't even think he would fit on Real that well, but what you're saying is ridiculous.
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Westgate has reached a height the only way he could generate more visibility is going the && route and started organically connecting with people more. It does not really fucking matter from a monetary perspective I bet because I guarantee Deluxe would salary match, so from his standpoint business wise, then it becomes a visibility standpoint unless his other sponsors are coupled(like FA and modern shoes, Lakai with Girl, etc.) because the price difference comes down to royalties. Why do you guys think Lebron did not consider my spurs? NBA players get paid on jersey royalty unlike other pro sports leagues, so he's gonna pick the biggest media market.

At least with element he does not have to compete with Ishod, Kwalks, or whoever's money, and his visbility is less. why in his right mind would he go to real? The only logical option he would have at his level would to go into intellectual property for himself, IE instagram and social media visbility, and his OWN branding. if he did in fact want to achieve more financially.

We get it dude. You love &&
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Masshole on March 02, 2021, 12:36:37 PM
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Homie just needs a fat check, as mentioned before he's never ridden for good board companies (nor has he needed them) and still has been producing and killing shit. I mean mid-2000s Birdhouse, then Zoo when it was wack, and then Element not really the dopest board brands.
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Naw, there was hot minute, that ZooYork was the shit Forrest, Westgate, Zerred, KT, Eli, Matt Miller, Barely and Ortiz. I wanna say from 2009 to 2011. Post Zooyork footwear era, but pre "why do we need to pay skateboarders?" era. They really had it together. Right before and right after State of mind came out.
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Yeah, I would agree with that. There was a little window of time right around State of Mind that Zoo was dope again. That video is so good. My favourite Zered part. Ron Deily! Eli before he started dancing. First legit introduction to Westgate.


And no, Westgate does not need to be on Real. Tbh, it would seem weird. If he weren't on Element, I could see him riding for Habitat or someone like that maybe.
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Dnag I actually forgot about that, I retract my statement he was on Zoo when it was dope. I used to watch State of Mind all the time and suscribed to their video podcast they had really good content.

The only acceptable answer for me would if he went to Toy Machine. But as stated before it seems like he does not give a flying fuck about whats cool.

Their video podcast was the shit, especially the China, SF, and Australia tour videos. Occasionally I'll hear Livin in the Bay by young cellski and be taken back to watching those videos on my ipod on my way to work.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 02, 2021, 12:36:47 PM
He’d fit past Toy Machines, not really anymore.  I think the only reason people put him in the TM convo is because he was hanging out with Leo a bunch on Emerica trips many many years ago and Leo wanted him on, but he didnt
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: michael scarn on March 02, 2021, 12:51:16 PM
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Good GOD NO! lol  I could see this tho for sure tho. I'd rather see him on Plan B that Real. Real needs to get it together. I guess you don't have to when you have Ishod.

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Could see Westgate on semi-retirement after his element contract.  Casually repping 5boro again while maintaining his cranberry farm
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I mean, I don't disagree that Real's team is huge, but in what way does Real need to "get it together"? They just put on the guy who won SOTY, their distribution is probably the most respected in the industry, they have Busenitz, TVV is amazing to watch, pretty sure they still hook up Antoine Asselin, Ishod like you mentioned, the list goes on. Why would you rather see someone as dope as Westgate on a dumpster fire brand like PLan B? I understand that some of Real's art direction is boring, but it doesn't even come close to the garbage put out by Plan B.

Think of it this way, who would you rather see Westgate skate with: Leticia, Joslin and Pat Duffy; or Ishod, Mason and Busenitz?

I don't even think he would fit on Real that well, but what you're saying is ridiculous.

Forreal does op even realize what year it is? Plan b has been a c list company for a while now.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Francis Xavier on March 02, 2021, 12:52:51 PM
Westgate goes big, fast, doesn't care, doesn't produce a ton of footage, and basically owns SF.....
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Yea Bog city, Crantards or Bog Money Vagrant slap if he's in em'
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 02, 2021, 12:57:24 PM
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Westgate goes big, fast, doesn't care, doesn't produce a ton of footage, and basically owns SF.....
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Yea Bog city, Crantards or Bog Money Vagrant slap if he's in em'

He can rep 18 like he’s Johnny Damon
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Icandoflamingoes on March 02, 2021, 01:16:02 PM
Surely he’s just still there thanks to contract timing or having signed a longer one than others,
or he goes to alien cos I think he could fit there

Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Croquet temper on March 02, 2021, 01:27:22 PM
With how fickle the skate industry can be, I say just let him rip and get paid.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Mr. Stinky on March 02, 2021, 01:30:22 PM
Serious question: Does Element stay profitable by being some kind of lifestyle brand now, or what? Because practically no one skates Element boards as far as I can tell, but I also don't just see regular people out in the wild wearing Element stuff.  How do they make money to pay a skate team?
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Brguy on March 02, 2021, 01:36:02 PM
Would buy his Toy Machine board in a second, also, what the fuck happened to Toy Machine?  I wish they were still relevant.
Their team is kinda relevant but somehow not related to the company at all, mostly through the shoe sponsors. The ones I remember are Leo and Provost for Emerica and Dan for Vans. I think the only one that brought any attention to it was Axel, I don't recall seeing him in anything not related to Toy.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: camel filters on March 02, 2021, 01:39:34 PM
Real already has had 3 of their own version of Brandon Westgate. His Their name(s) is were Huf, Busenitz, and Mason Silva
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 02, 2021, 01:51:53 PM
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Would buy his Toy Machine board in a second, also, what the fuck happened to Toy Machine?  I wish they were still relevant.
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Their team is kinda relevant but somehow not related to the company at all, mostly through the shoe sponsors. The ones I remember are Leo and Provost for Emerica and Dan for Vans. I think the only one that brought any attention to it was Axel, I don't recall seeing him in anything not related to Toy.

Ehhh Provost is the only one who turns out footage consistently.  Whether you like him or not is a separate issue.   Myles is someone I’ve heard is good and I like what I’ve seen, but he hasn’t really put out a part to elevate himself.  CJ Collins I’m sure is relevant if you’re into the contest scene and Blake i can’t get a read on if anyone cares.   Axel disappeared after getting on Vans, and the rest (Leo, Billy, Harmony, Leabres, Lutheran), I assume are still on bc Ed doesn’t really pay attention. 
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: IUTSM on March 02, 2021, 02:00:56 PM
seems like with Element he can do whatever he wants- be with his family at home, stay out of the party scene, skate wherever/whenever, hang with his friends (dudes fairly often doing podcasts with shetler on AIN), and get paid. Sounds like the life to me.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: oyolar on March 02, 2021, 02:08:40 PM
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Would buy his Toy Machine board in a second, also, what the fuck happened to Toy Machine?  I wish they were still relevant.
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Their team is kinda relevant but somehow not related to the company at all, mostly through the shoe sponsors. The ones I remember are Leo and Provost for Emerica and Dan for Vans. I think the only one that brought any attention to it was Axel, I don't recall seeing him in anything not related to Toy.
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Ehhh Provost is the only one who turns out footage consistently.  Whether you like him or not is a separate issue.   Myles is someone I’ve heard is good and I like what I’ve seen, but he hasn’t really put out a part to elevate himself.  CJ Collins I’m sure is relevant if you’re into the contest scene and Blake i can’t get a read on if anyone cares.   Axel disappeared after getting on Vans, and the rest (Leo, Billy, Harmony, Leabres, Lutheran), I assume are still on bc Ed doesn’t really pay attention.

Leo, Leabres, and Dan are way more relevant than Billy and Harmony.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Wandalumioshlomo on March 02, 2021, 02:19:34 PM
Huf-Busenitz-Westgate. Would be like a shiny star formation in the sky for that team. I wouldn't really compare Westgate to Mason, but explanation is too complex so ill just stick to the fact that mason is regular.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 02, 2021, 02:26:24 PM
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Would buy his Toy Machine board in a second, also, what the fuck happened to Toy Machine?  I wish they were still relevant.
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Their team is kinda relevant but somehow not related to the company at all, mostly through the shoe sponsors. The ones I remember are Leo and Provost for Emerica and Dan for Vans. I think the only one that brought any attention to it was Axel, I don't recall seeing him in anything not related to Toy.
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Ehhh Provost is the only one who turns out footage consistently.  Whether you like him or not is a separate issue.   Myles is someone I’ve heard is good and I like what I’ve seen, but he hasn’t really put out a part to elevate himself.  CJ Collins I’m sure is relevant if you’re into the contest scene and Blake i can’t get a read on if anyone cares.   Axel disappeared after getting on Vans, and the rest (Leo, Billy, Harmony, Leabres, Lutheran), I assume are still on bc Ed doesn’t really pay attention.
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Leo, Leabres, and Dan are way more relevant than Billy and Harmony.

I’m saying that they haven’t released anything in a long time.  That does affect your relevancy regardless if it’s due to injury or whatnot. 
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: HORSES on March 02, 2021, 02:36:31 PM
Toy Machine sucks. They've put one one full length in 15 years, and have barely done anything else in the mean time.


Might seem wild, but maybe Brandon is happy on Element?
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Neil on March 02, 2021, 02:50:27 PM
The guy owns a cranberry bog and has LIVE.LAUGH.LOVE stuff on his walls. He is perfect for Element. Element is perfect for him. I'm psyched he gets a big check from stable brands.

From his Epicly Later'd:

(https://i.imgur.com/YWQfAw6l.jpg)
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Francis Xavier on March 02, 2021, 03:05:09 PM
Serious question: Does Element stay profitable by being some kind of lifestyle brand now, or what? Because practically no one skates Element boards as far as I can tell, but I also don't just see regular people out in the wild wearing Element stuff.  How do they make money to pay a skate team?
There's Element completes at Zumiez that I've seen parents buy their kids. Whoever owns them has their clothing in a lot of mall shops and Ross/Marshalls type of stores too. Just the fact stores are fucked with that inventory has Element keeping their payroll. There's probably a kid learning stationary kickflips in his driveway on an Element complete as we speak.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Lowcalcium on March 02, 2021, 03:23:24 PM
Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: DannyDee on March 02, 2021, 03:37:51 PM
he seems to have total freedom with element. they give him his space to film when and how he pleases. he probably can just grab whatever filmer and take (or not) whatever trips he wants no questions asked. plus he probably never has to worry about the checks being "late" or suspicious accounting.  why would he leave a good thing for a "cool" thing?

in return element gets a self driven skater who can self-promote, never complains, doesn't need special attention, and they never really have to worry about him piling out or saying something dumb shit on social media.   

its a win-win
I think Element used to be like that, I doubt their financials are that great anymore given the mass exodus. But, I'm sure NB# lets him do whatever he wants considering he's a New England kid and probably their flagship guy since PJ doesn't produce much. Westgate and Tom Knox are probably their most productive and known pros. I guess Foy too.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: nicotinewheel on March 02, 2021, 03:39:29 PM
brings me no pleasure to say I could see him on All I Need
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Mr. Stinky on March 02, 2021, 03:46:40 PM
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he seems to have total freedom with element. they give him his space to film when and how he pleases. he probably can just grab whatever filmer and take (or not) whatever trips he wants no questions asked. plus he probably never has to worry about the checks being "late" or suspicious accounting.  why would he leave a good thing for a "cool" thing?

in return element gets a self driven skater who can self-promote, never complains, doesn't need special attention, and they never really have to worry about him piling out or saying something dumb shit on social media.   

its a win-win
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I think Element used to be like that, I doubt their financials are that great anymore given the mass exodus. But, I'm sure NB# lets him do whatever he wants considering he's a New England kid and probably their flagship guy since PJ doesn't produce much. Westgate and Tom Knox are probably their most productive and known pros. I guess Foy too.

Pretty clear that Tiago is their flagship guy, and Tiago produces as much or more than any other pro on NB#
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 02, 2021, 03:53:50 PM
Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real

Nicole Hause is on AH. 

I’d guess that the non cis male skaters he’s close with are already hooked up or have started their own company.   Is there someone who you can think of that deserves a better board sponsor?   I don’t think just sponsoring anyone for the sake of sponsoring someone is helpful to the cause of promoting female/lgbtq skating.   
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: DannyDee on March 02, 2021, 04:04:38 PM
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he seems to have total freedom with element. they give him his space to film when and how he pleases. he probably can just grab whatever filmer and take (or not) whatever trips he wants no questions asked. plus he probably never has to worry about the checks being "late" or suspicious accounting.  why would he leave a good thing for a "cool" thing?

in return element gets a self driven skater who can self-promote, never complains, doesn't need special attention, and they never really have to worry about him piling out or saying something dumb shit on social media.   

its a win-win
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I think Element used to be like that, I doubt their financials are that great anymore given the mass exodus. But, I'm sure NB# lets him do whatever he wants considering he's a New England kid and probably their flagship guy since PJ doesn't produce much. Westgate and Tom Knox are probably their most productive and known pros. I guess Foy too.
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Pretty clear that Tiago is their flagship guy, and Tiago produces as much or more than any other pro on NB#
Forgot he was even added. But you are correct.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 02, 2021, 04:23:45 PM
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he seems to have total freedom with element. they give him his space to film when and how he pleases. he probably can just grab whatever filmer and take (or not) whatever trips he wants no questions asked. plus he probably never has to worry about the checks being "late" or suspicious accounting.  why would he leave a good thing for a "cool" thing?

in return element gets a self driven skater who can self-promote, never complains, doesn't need special attention, and they never really have to worry about him piling out or saying something dumb shit on social media.   

its a win-win
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I think Element used to be like that, I doubt their financials are that great anymore given the mass exodus. But, I'm sure NB# lets him do whatever he wants considering he's a New England kid and probably their flagship guy since PJ doesn't produce much. Westgate and Tom Knox are probably their most productive and known pros. I guess Foy too.
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Pretty clear that Tiago is their flagship guy, and Tiago produces as much or more than any other pro on NB#
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Forgot he was even added. But you are correct.

Tiago Foy Westgate are their big 3.  The top guy is whichever you like the best.  Baker kids def going to see Foy as #1
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: RichardBarkley on March 02, 2021, 04:25:12 PM
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Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
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Nicole Hause is on AH. 

I’d guess that the non cis male skaters he’s close with are already hooked up or have started their own company.   Is there someone who you can think of that deserves a better board sponsor?   I don’t think just sponsoring anyone for the sake of sponsoring someone is helpful to the cause of promoting female/lgbtq skating.

Yeah AH is rocking a female skater.

Maybe they cant find anyone to fit Reals style.

I mean they even sponsor an amazing blind skater in Dan Mancina....

And your giving them shit. C'mon dude.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Burnout420 on March 02, 2021, 04:27:42 PM
You need to have a a certain fashion sense or personality to fit on most companies. All I know about Brandon is that he owns a cranberry farm.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: GreggPopovich on March 02, 2021, 04:28:48 PM
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Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
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Nicole Hause is on AH. 

I’d guess that the non cis male skaters he’s close with are already hooked up or have started their own company.   Is there someone who you can think of that deserves a better board sponsor?   I don’t think just sponsoring anyone for the sake of sponsoring someone is helpful to the cause of promoting female/lgbtq skating.
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Yeah AH is rocking a female skater.

Maybe they cant find anyone to fit Reals style.

I mean they even sponsor an amazing blind skater in Dan Mancina....

And your giving them shit. C'mon dude.

You’re telling me you can’t find the most basic white chick out their that rips? America has like fucking 350 million people come on. Jim and those guys just don’t give a shit lol.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: RichardBarkley on March 02, 2021, 04:38:37 PM
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Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
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Nicole Hause is on AH. 

I’d guess that the non cis male skaters he’s close with are already hooked up or have started their own company.   Is there someone who you can think of that deserves a better board sponsor?   I don’t think just sponsoring anyone for the sake of sponsoring someone is helpful to the cause of promoting female/lgbtq skating.
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Yeah AH is rocking a female skater.

Maybe they cant find anyone to fit Reals style.

I mean they even sponsor an amazing blind skater in Dan Mancina....

And your giving them shit. C'mon dude.
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You’re telling me you can’t find the most basic white chick out their that rips? America has like fucking 350 million people come on. Jim and those guys just don’t give a shit lol.

Why are you so hell bent on them getting a "white chick" cheetah.

I've no doubt if he found someone up to snuff he would add them. White or whatever race you prefer
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: GreggPopovich on March 02, 2021, 04:50:10 PM
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Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
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Nicole Hause is on AH. 

I’d guess that the non cis male skaters he’s close with are already hooked up or have started their own company.   Is there someone who you can think of that deserves a better board sponsor?   I don’t think just sponsoring anyone for the sake of sponsoring someone is helpful to the cause of promoting female/lgbtq skating.
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Yeah AH is rocking a female skater.

Maybe they cant find anyone to fit Reals style.

I mean they even sponsor an amazing blind skater in Dan Mancina....

And your giving them shit. C'mon dude.
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You’re telling me you can’t find the most basic white chick out their that rips? America has like fucking 350 million people come on. Jim and those guys just don’t give a shit lol.
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Why are you so hell bent on them getting a "white chick" cheetah.

I've no doubt if he found someone up to snuff he would add them. White or whatever race you prefer

I could find a world class skateboard team in a months time with the talent out their now. Real is the most bland brand of brands, u don’t need literally anything specific image wise to get on unlike say antihero or krooked which id buy an argument about, but fucking real? My argument is if u ain’t got a chick on real of all fucking companies, it’s just moral posturing at that point.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: DannyDee on March 02, 2021, 05:11:19 PM
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he seems to have total freedom with element. they give him his space to film when and how he pleases. he probably can just grab whatever filmer and take (or not) whatever trips he wants no questions asked. plus he probably never has to worry about the checks being "late" or suspicious accounting.  why would he leave a good thing for a "cool" thing?

in return element gets a self driven skater who can self-promote, never complains, doesn't need special attention, and they never really have to worry about him piling out or saying something dumb shit on social media.   

its a win-win
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I think Element used to be like that, I doubt their financials are that great anymore given the mass exodus. But, I'm sure NB# lets him do whatever he wants considering he's a New England kid and probably their flagship guy since PJ doesn't produce much. Westgate and Tom Knox are probably their most productive and known pros. I guess Foy too.
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Pretty clear that Tiago is their flagship guy, and Tiago produces as much or more than any other pro on NB#
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Forgot he was even added. But you are correct.
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Tiago Foy Westgate are their big 3.  The top guy is whichever you like the best.  Baker kids def going to see Foy as #1
Yeah, for whatever reasons, I identify them most with Tom Knox. Maybe since he's been on the longest, and I'm most interested in his footage. But, those other 3 are bigger names.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 02, 2021, 05:54:52 PM
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he seems to have total freedom with element. they give him his space to film when and how he pleases. he probably can just grab whatever filmer and take (or not) whatever trips he wants no questions asked. plus he probably never has to worry about the checks being "late" or suspicious accounting.  why would he leave a good thing for a "cool" thing?

in return element gets a self driven skater who can self-promote, never complains, doesn't need special attention, and they never really have to worry about him piling out or saying something dumb shit on social media.   

its a win-win
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I think Element used to be like that, I doubt their financials are that great anymore given the mass exodus. But, I'm sure NB# lets him do whatever he wants considering he's a New England kid and probably their flagship guy since PJ doesn't produce much. Westgate and Tom Knox are probably their most productive and known pros. I guess Foy too.
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Pretty clear that Tiago is their flagship guy, and Tiago produces as much or more than any other pro on NB#
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Forgot he was even added. But you are correct.
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Tiago Foy Westgate are their big 3.  The top guy is whichever you like the best.  Baker kids def going to see Foy as #1
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Yeah, for whatever reasons, I identify them most with Tom Knox. Maybe since he's been on the longest, and I'm most interested in his footage. But, those other 3 are bigger names.

I still think about Arto and them even though he’s not even on anymore
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: IUTSM on March 02, 2021, 07:07:47 PM
brings me no pleasure to say I could see him on All I Need

that'd be a serious case of things coming around full circle
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: fakie nollie on March 02, 2021, 07:25:34 PM
This thread reeks of an identical cadence to when Anthony Shetler hid behind anonymity to say Suski deserved a pro model
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Reed Richards on March 02, 2021, 07:49:30 PM
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Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
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Nicole Hause is on AH. 

I’d guess that the non cis male skaters he’s close with are already hooked up or have started their own company.   Is there someone who you can think of that deserves a better board sponsor?   I don’t think just sponsoring anyone for the sake of sponsoring someone is helpful to the cause of promoting female/lgbtq skating.
I believe Stella Reynolds is an AM for Real, and Nika Washington has been skating Real boards.  Plus Jaime Reyes from back in the day. 
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 02, 2021, 07:51:47 PM
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Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
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Nicole Hause is on AH. 

I’d guess that the non cis male skaters he’s close with are already hooked up or have started their own company.   Is there someone who you can think of that deserves a better board sponsor?   I don’t think just sponsoring anyone for the sake of sponsoring someone is helpful to the cause of promoting female/lgbtq skating.
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I believe Stella Reynolds is an AM for Real, and Nika Washington has been skating Real boards.  Plus Jaime Reyes from back in the day.

Stella still skate?   She used to be featured on Reynolds IG a lot.  Wonder if she grew out of it or something.  Hopefully nothin bad
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: TwisT on March 02, 2021, 09:00:10 PM
Nicole is not on AH
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Good and Evil on March 02, 2021, 09:24:49 PM
He’d fit past Toy Machines, not really anymore.  I think the only reason people put him in the TM convo is because he was hanging out with Leo a bunch on Emerica trips many many years ago and Leo wanted him on, but he didnt

I like him on Toy Machine because he reminds me of Donny Barley... who I guess also went to Element hmmm
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: DannyDee on March 02, 2021, 09:30:12 PM
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he seems to have total freedom with element. they give him his space to film when and how he pleases. he probably can just grab whatever filmer and take (or not) whatever trips he wants no questions asked. plus he probably never has to worry about the checks being "late" or suspicious accounting.  why would he leave a good thing for a "cool" thing?

in return element gets a self driven skater who can self-promote, never complains, doesn't need special attention, and they never really have to worry about him piling out or saying something dumb shit on social media.   

its a win-win
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I think Element used to be like that, I doubt their financials are that great anymore given the mass exodus. But, I'm sure NB# lets him do whatever he wants considering he's a New England kid and probably their flagship guy since PJ doesn't produce much. Westgate and Tom Knox are probably their most productive and known pros. I guess Foy too.
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Pretty clear that Tiago is their flagship guy, and Tiago produces as much or more than any other pro on NB#
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Forgot he was even added. But you are correct.
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Tiago Foy Westgate are their big 3.  The top guy is whichever you like the best.  Baker kids def going to see Foy as #1
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Yeah, for whatever reasons, I identify them most with Tom Knox. Maybe since he's been on the longest, and I'm most interested in his footage. But, those other 3 are bigger names.
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I still think about Arto and them even though he’s not even on anymore
I feel its Tiago and Westgate are so connected to their old shoe sponsors. I know Knox was on Emerica Euro team, but I guess I identify him with Isle/Atlantic Drift and NB#. Like the first guys who come to mind are really Knox, Jordan Taylor and Franky. All great skaters for different reasons. Obviously, I'm not their target demo of adding someone like Foy though. 
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: CrappyChan on March 02, 2021, 10:15:26 PM
Nicole is not on AH

Yeah I heard she was going overboard with the agent and her trainer and all that. Can't be like that on AH.

Westgate can be on my fake company FlipHouse
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: DannyDee on March 02, 2021, 10:32:48 PM
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Nicole is not on AH
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Yeah I heard she was going overboard with the agent and her trainer and all that. Can't be like that on AH.

Westgate can be on my fake company FlipHouse
I wonder how involved the agents/managers for people like Zion are when it comes to dealing with Real. I fully get having representation when dealing with conglomerates like Red Bull and any shoe brands. Those are your big money deals, but board brands its a bit ridiculous.

Just looking at her Insta. Her Traeger Sponsorship might be one of my favorite yet from a skater. I'd love to somehow get a BBQ sponsor for skating.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: j....soy..... on March 02, 2021, 10:51:52 PM
He'd fit perfectly on Wray Brothers where he could be left wondering.....'what the hell have I done?!?!'
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: radcunt on March 03, 2021, 12:04:51 AM
If he gets too close to Anti Hero he could merge into one super skater with Grant Taylor
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Brguy on March 03, 2021, 02:00:54 AM
Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
Being inclusive doesn't mean having a diversity quota, dude. Do you really picture a girl riding for AntiHero? Real, maybe, Krooked I don't even fucking know, for all I know they could have Ronald McDonald riding for them.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: RichardBarkley on March 03, 2021, 02:52:05 AM
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Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
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Nicole Hause is on AH. 

I’d guess that the non cis male skaters he’s close with are already hooked up or have started their own company.   Is there someone who you can think of that deserves a better board sponsor?   I don’t think just sponsoring anyone for the sake of sponsoring someone is helpful to the cause of promoting female/lgbtq skating.
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Yeah AH is rocking a female skater.

Maybe they cant find anyone to fit Reals style.

I mean they even sponsor an amazing blind skater in Dan Mancina....

And your giving them shit. C'mon dude.
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You’re telling me you can’t find the most basic white chick out their that rips? America has like fucking 350 million people come on. Jim and those guys just don’t give a shit lol.
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Why are you so hell bent on them getting a "white chick" cheetah.

I've no doubt if he found someone up to snuff he would add them. White or whatever race you prefer
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I could find a world class skateboard team in a months time with the talent out their now. Real is the most bland brand of brands, u don’t need literally anything specific image wise to get on unlike say antihero or krooked which id buy an argument about, but fucking real? My argument is if u ain’t got a chick on real of all fucking companies, it’s just moral posturing at that point.

Mmm hmm... Ok buddy sure thing.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: HeapsCool on March 03, 2021, 04:21:30 AM
Serious question: Does Element stay profitable by being some kind of lifestyle brand now, or what? Because practically no one skates Element boards as far as I can tell, but I also don't just see regular people out in the wild wearing Element stuff.  How do they make money to pay a skate team?

If you've ever seen Ozarks you would better understand how they turn a profit.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: HeapsCool on March 03, 2021, 04:26:35 AM
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Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
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Nicole Hause is on AH. 

I’d guess that the non cis male skaters he’s close with are already hooked up or have started their own company.   Is there someone who you can think of that deserves a better board sponsor?  I don’t think just sponsoring anyone for the sake of sponsoring someone is helpful to the cause of promoting female/lgbtq skating.

What do you even mean with this sentence? Do you mean that gay and women skaters are only sponsored because they are gay and or women? Do you mean every gay or woman skater is only sponsored due to the orientation/gender? Get a fucking grip man, you sound brainless.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Brguy on March 03, 2021, 06:03:16 AM
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Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
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Nicole Hause is on AH. 

I’d guess that the non cis male skaters he’s close with are already hooked up or have started their own company.   Is there someone who you can think of that deserves a better board sponsor?  I don’t think just sponsoring anyone for the sake of sponsoring someone is helpful to the cause of promoting female/lgbtq skating.
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What do you even mean with this sentence? Do you mean that gay and women skaters are only sponsored because they are gay and or women? Do you mean every gay or woman skater is only sponsored due to the orientation/gender? Get a fucking grip man, you sound brainless.
Sure, cause everyone knows companies always do things based on what's right and not on what's profitable.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Lowcalcium on March 03, 2021, 06:15:22 AM
Okay now I'm super confused some people are saying Nicole Hause is on AH and others are saying she isn't which one is it?

Also, why in the hell does Maite' Steenhoudt not skate for Krooked, she would be a perfect fit. She's like the best female skater out there in terms of style.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: ok boomer on March 03, 2021, 06:39:49 AM
Okay now I'm super confused some people are saying Nicole Hause is on AH and others are saying she isn't which one is it?

Also, why in the hell does Maite' Steenhoudt not skate for Krooked, she would be a perfect fit. She's like the best female skater out there in terms of style.

Does Nicole hell ride?
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Kombuch-A-Holic on March 03, 2021, 06:40:00 AM
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Good GOD NO! lol  I could see this tho for sure tho. I'd rather see him on Plan B that Real. Real needs to get it together. I guess you don't have to when you have Ishod.

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Could see Westgate on semi-retirement after his element contract.  Casually repping 5boro again while maintaining his cranberry farm
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I mean, I don't disagree that Real's team is huge, but in what way does Real need to "get it together"? They just put on the guy who won SOTY, their distribution is probably the most respected in the industry, they have Busenitz, TVV is amazing to watch, pretty sure they still hook up Antoine Asselin, Ishod like you mentioned, the list goes on. Why would you rather see someone as dope as Westgate on a dumpster fire brand like PLan B? I understand that some of Real's art direction is boring, but it doesn't even come close to the garbage put out by Plan B.

Think of it this way, who would you rather see Westgate skate with: Leticia, Joslin and Pat Duffy; or Ishod, Mason and Busenitz?

I don't even think he would fit on Real that well, but what you're saying is ridiculous.
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Forreal does op even realize what year it is? Plan b has been a c list company for a while now.

Yes, Plan B is a dumpster fire and a C list company. Totally agree. I don't want to see him on there. Just as bad as I don't want to see him on Real... I've typed so much and deleted it over and over and I guess it comes down to me expecting more from Real.  And maybe just maybe deep, deeep down I expect more from myself.  lol
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: HORSES on March 03, 2021, 06:43:56 AM
Okay now I'm super confused some people are saying Nicole Hause is on AH and others are saying she isn't which one is it?

Also, why in the hell does Maite' Steenhoudt not skate for Krooked, she would be a perfect fit. She's like the best female skater out there in terms of style.


Nicole has been riding $lave boards for over a year.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Lowcalcium on March 03, 2021, 06:49:39 AM
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Okay now I'm super confused some people are saying Nicole Hause is on AH and others are saying she isn't which one is it?

Also, why in the hell does Maite' Steenhoudt not skate for Krooked, she would be a perfect fit. She's like the best female skater out there in terms of style.
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Nicole has been riding $lave boards for over a year.

Thanks man
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: mattdlx on March 03, 2021, 06:58:24 AM
If we’re playing fantasy football or whatever, I’d like to see Westgate pro for Orchard/Gangemi
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Prostate Exam on March 03, 2021, 07:15:09 AM
As long as he doesn't switch to Powell I am all for it
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Atiba Applebum on March 03, 2021, 08:01:32 AM
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Okay now I'm super confused some people are saying Nicole Hause is on AH and others are saying she isn't which one is it?

Also, why in the hell does Maite' Steenhoudt not skate for Krooked, she would be a perfect fit. She's like the best female skater out there in terms of style.
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Nicole has been riding $lave boards for over a year.

She’s riding a Deathwish board in her latest photo in Thrasher
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: SatanicPanic on March 03, 2021, 10:12:33 AM
Okay now I'm super confused some people are saying Nicole Hause is on AH and others are saying she isn't which one is it?

Also, why in the hell does Maite' Steenhoudt not skate for Krooked, she would be a perfect fit. She's like the best female skater out there in terms of style.
Maite has a board on UMA
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: oyolar on March 03, 2021, 10:32:11 AM
Toy Machine sucks. They've put one one full length in 15 years, and have barely done anything else in the mean time.


Might seem wild, but maybe Brandon is happy on Element?

Toy put out a full length at the end of 2019...
https://youtu.be/rteUX5iCW4Q
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: HORSES on March 03, 2021, 12:15:32 PM
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Okay now I'm super confused some people are saying Nicole Hause is on AH and others are saying she isn't which one is it?

Also, why in the hell does Maite' Steenhoudt not skate for Krooked, she would be a perfect fit. She's like the best female skater out there in terms of style.
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Nicole has been riding $lave boards for over a year.
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She’s riding a Deathwish board in her latest photo in Thrasher


Didn't know she had changed it up. She's not following Anti Hero or $lave on Instagram either, but following a bunch of others. You get what she might be like.


Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: HORSES on March 03, 2021, 12:19:49 PM
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Toy Machine sucks. They've put one one full length in 15 years, and have barely done anything else in the mean time.


Might seem wild, but maybe Brandon is happy on Element?
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Toy put out a full length at the end of 2019...
https://youtu.be/rteUX5iCW4Q


Sorry poor wording on my behalf. 1 promo video and 1 full length in the last 15 years is fucking terrible. They've barely put out any web content in that time and have just sat on their hands. The company has been running on low fuel for a decade, and they seem to to put a little fuel in every-now and then to stop the light from coming on.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: SatanicPanic on March 03, 2021, 12:59:36 PM
Everyone is talking about Toy Machine without mentioning Axel? That dude is rad.

Unless he’s switched sponsors and I’m behind on which case nevermind
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Brguy on March 03, 2021, 06:42:54 PM
Everyone is talking about Toy Machine without mentioning Axel? That dude is rad.

Unless he’s switched sponsors and I’m behind on which case nevermind
Axel gets as much coverage as Toy Machine, which isn't much.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Lowcalcium on March 03, 2021, 08:25:00 PM
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Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
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Being inclusive doesn't mean having a diversity quota, dude. Do you really picture a girl riding for AntiHero? Real, maybe, Krooked I don't even fucking know, for all I know they could have Ronald McDonald riding for them.

Do I really picture a girl riding for AH:

Yes I do, Elissa or Dal Santo could have turned pro for AH and it would make sense. They are both gnarly.

I could see Alexis Sablone on Krooked. I believe she got a guest board.

Moreover, there’s probably tons of young female rippers I don’t even know about. But yeah any of them could / should in time go pro for deluxe.

I know I get stoked seeing more female & LGBT+ people skating, so I think some of the teams should reflect this too. No absolutely not like a diversity quota. Just add more flavor to the pot. And yes Dan Mancia rules. The dude is an inspiration.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: oyolar on March 03, 2021, 11:36:45 PM
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Everyone is talking about Toy Machine without mentioning Axel? That dude is rad.

Unless he’s switched sponsors and I’m behind on which case nevermind
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Axel gets as much coverage as Toy Machine, which isn't much.

Since he left NB it seems like his coverage slowed down. I know he had that Vans part recently but it felt like a really drastic shift.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: muntcuscle on March 04, 2021, 12:34:28 AM
as long as he keeps skating at/near this level he could be on revive and i'd still watch his parts 20 times
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Brguy on March 04, 2021, 05:31:12 AM
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Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
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Being inclusive doesn't mean having a diversity quota, dude. Do you really picture a girl riding for AntiHero? Real, maybe, Krooked I don't even fucking know, for all I know they could have Ronald McDonald riding for them.
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Do I really picture a girl riding for AH:

Yes I do, Elissa or Dal Santo could have turned pro for AH and it would make sense. They are both gnarly.

I could see Alexis Sablone on Krooked. I believe she got a guest board.

Moreover, there’s probably tons of young female rippers I don’t even know about. But yeah any of them could / should in time go pro for deluxe.

I know I get stoked seeing more female & LGBT+ people skating, so I think some of the teams should reflect this too. No absolutely not like a diversity quota. Just add more flavor to the pot. And yes Dan Mancia rules. The dude is an inspiration.
You got a good point with Elissa and Marisa, but still I find it hard to see a regular girl get in the van with those dudes. With time more women will appear in skateboarding, it's only natural and I think it should be as it is for any guy, it's always better when the people skating for a certain brand are like a family and stuff like that.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Lowcalcium on March 04, 2021, 09:12:37 AM
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Okay now I'm super confused some people are saying Nicole Hause is on AH and others are saying she isn't which one is it?

Also, why in the hell does Maite' Steenhoudt not skate for Krooked, she would be a perfect fit. She's like the best female skater out there in terms of style.
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Maite has a board on UMA

Not to be so American centric. But what the hell is UMA?

Maite’ deserves to be on a legislate squad.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: oyolar on March 04, 2021, 09:18:53 AM
UMA is a new US based brand. It’s Thomas Campbell’s brand with Evan Smith, Cody Chapman, and Maité.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: TheFandangler on March 04, 2021, 09:38:59 AM
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Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
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Being inclusive doesn't mean having a diversity quota, dude. Do you really picture a girl riding for AntiHero? Real, maybe, Krooked I don't even fucking know, for all I know they could have Ronald McDonald riding for them.
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Do I really picture a girl riding for AH:

Yes I do, Elissa or Dal Santo could have turned pro for AH and it would make sense. They are both gnarly.

I could see Alexis Sablone on Krooked. I believe she got a guest board.

Moreover, there’s probably tons of young female rippers I don’t even know about. But yeah any of them could / should in time go pro for deluxe.

I know I get stoked seeing more female & LGBT+ people skating, so I think some of the teams should reflect this too. No absolutely not like a diversity quota. Just add more flavor to the pot. And yes Dan Mancia rules. The dude is an inspiration.
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You got a good point with Elissa and Marisa, but still I find it hard to see a regular girl get in the van with those dudes. With time more women will appear in skateboarding, it's only natural and I think it should be as it is for any guy, it's always better when the people skating for a certain brand are like a family and stuff like that.

Please define "regular girl" and in what way Elissa and Marisa do not fit that description?

I could easily see a non-male skater getting in the van with AH. Those dudes are probably more accepting and open-minded than a lot of other board brands. First major board brand to have an openly gay pro...
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Lowcalcium on March 04, 2021, 09:59:22 AM
UMA is a new US based brand. It’s Thomas Campbell’s brand with Evan Smith, Cody Chapman, and Maité.

That's why I come to SLAP, to learn something new. Thanks.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: ihatejulio on March 04, 2021, 10:35:02 AM
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Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
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Being inclusive doesn't mean having a diversity quota, dude. Do you really picture a girl riding for AntiHero? Real, maybe, Krooked I don't even fucking know, for all I know they could have Ronald McDonald riding for them.
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Do I really picture a girl riding for AH:

Yes I do, Elissa or Dal Santo could have turned pro for AH and it would make sense. They are both gnarly.

I could see Alexis Sablone on Krooked. I believe she got a guest board.

Moreover, there’s probably tons of young female rippers I don’t even know about. But yeah any of them could / should in time go pro for deluxe.

I know I get stoked seeing more female & LGBT+ people skating, so I think some of the teams should reflect this too. No absolutely not like a diversity quota. Just add more flavor to the pot. And yes Dan Mancia rules. The dude is an inspiration.
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You got a good point with Elissa and Marisa, but still I find it hard to see a regular girl get in the van with those dudes. With time more women will appear in skateboarding, it's only natural and I think it should be as it is for any guy, it's always better when the people skating for a certain brand are like a family and stuff like that.
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Please define "regular girl" and in what way Elissa and Marisa do not fit that description?

I could easily see a non-male skater getting in the van with AH. Those dudes are probably more accepting and open-minded than a lot of other board brands. First major board brand to have an openly gay pro...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2K5piFz9Nw

See 9:46
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: Brguy on March 04, 2021, 10:46:53 AM
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Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
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Being inclusive doesn't mean having a diversity quota, dude. Do you really picture a girl riding for AntiHero? Real, maybe, Krooked I don't even fucking know, for all I know they could have Ronald McDonald riding for them.
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Do I really picture a girl riding for AH:

Yes I do, Elissa or Dal Santo could have turned pro for AH and it would make sense. They are both gnarly.

I could see Alexis Sablone on Krooked. I believe she got a guest board.

Moreover, there’s probably tons of young female rippers I don’t even know about. But yeah any of them could / should in time go pro for deluxe.

I know I get stoked seeing more female & LGBT+ people skating, so I think some of the teams should reflect this too. No absolutely not like a diversity quota. Just add more flavor to the pot. And yes Dan Mancia rules. The dude is an inspiration.
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You got a good point with Elissa and Marisa, but still I find it hard to see a regular girl get in the van with those dudes. With time more women will appear in skateboarding, it's only natural and I think it should be as it is for any guy, it's always better when the people skating for a certain brand are like a family and stuff like that.
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Please define "regular girl" and in what way Elissa and Marisa do not fit that description?

I could easily see a non-male skater getting in the van with AH. Those dudes are probably more accepting and open-minded than a lot of other board brands. First major board brand to have an openly gay pro...
Regular girl as in girl with most of her mental capabilities intact.
Title: Re: Brandon Westgate must come of Element on Real
Post by: TheFandangler on March 04, 2021, 12:29:18 PM
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Brandon Westgate on Quasi makes sense to me.

I agree I think he'd get lost in the mix if he was on Real.


On a serious note, Jim Thiebaud is all about equality and inclusivity when it comes to his brands.

https://actionsrealized.com/

So why are there no women pro's on Real, Anti-Hero, or Krooked. All these brands have been around for awhile and are very well respected...but you got companies like Deathwish giving more chances to women than Real
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Being inclusive doesn't mean having a diversity quota, dude. Do you really picture a girl riding for AntiHero? Real, maybe, Krooked I don't even fucking know, for all I know they could have Ronald McDonald riding for them.
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Do I really picture a girl riding for AH:

Yes I do, Elissa or Dal Santo could have turned pro for AH and it would make sense. They are both gnarly.

I could see Alexis Sablone on Krooked. I believe she got a guest board.

Moreover, there’s probably tons of young female rippers I don’t even know about. But yeah any of them could / should in time go pro for deluxe.

I know I get stoked seeing more female & LGBT+ people skating, so I think some of the teams should reflect this too. No absolutely not like a diversity quota. Just add more flavor to the pot. And yes Dan Mancia rules. The dude is an inspiration.
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You got a good point with Elissa and Marisa, but still I find it hard to see a regular girl get in the van with those dudes. With time more women will appear in skateboarding, it's only natural and I think it should be as it is for any guy, it's always better when the people skating for a certain brand are like a family and stuff like that.
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Please define "regular girl" and in what way Elissa and Marisa do not fit that description?

I could easily see a non-male skater getting in the van with AH. Those dudes are probably more accepting and open-minded than a lot of other board brands. First major board brand to have an openly gay pro...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2K5piFz9Nw

See 9:46

Wow, forgot about that. That is definitely a problematic statement, but I wouldn't necessarily take T-Mo's words as gospel concerning AH's values as a brand. I mean they were fucking with Nicole pretty heavy for a bit there. Seemed like she was on track for full am spot until whatever happened between them occurred. Didn't she have an ad even? Can't remember exactly, so I could be wrong.