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Skateboarding => USELESS WOODEN TOY BANTER => Topic started by: mareo on March 13, 2021, 02:19:58 AM
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-papa-villani?utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer
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This is awful. My girls dad passed from a massive heart attack last July. Thoughts and prayers to their family.
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It‘s really sad!
And how fucked up is it that someone who suffered a heart attack is „punished“ with such an insanely high medical bill...
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You Americans have given some great things to humanity, but medical bankruptcy is not one them.
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You Americans have given some great things to humanity, but medical bankruptcy is not one them.
So sad. I'm surprised you don't here of more Americans emigrating elsewhere. It's rolling the dice every day. Stuff like this can happen to anyone.
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Very sad
Why don't you guys just bail ? I could never relax knowing a medical issue could bankrupt me. Especially skateboarding! Lol
So inhumane.
Your sick, we don't care.. and.... No your broke. Who votes for this shit ?
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Damn. Best wishes to his dad.
My friends dad had a triple bipass in his mid 50’s and seems to be doing well afterwards, so hopefully his can pull through.
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Your sick, we don't care.. and.... No your broke. Who votes for this shit ?
We’ve somehow allowed a very complicated, corrupt system where huge medical and insurance companies are extremely cozy with our government. Obviously no one voted “yes” on a bill to allow our sick and vulnerable to be ignored.
The smug “lol why don’t you just leave?” comments are really helpful and constructive though.
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Every time you vote R you are voting yes on the sick and vulnerable to be ignored.
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Very sad
Why don't you guys just bail ? I could never relax knowing a medical issue could bankrupt me. Especially skateboarding! Lol
So inhumane.
Your sick, we don't care.. and.... No your broke. Who votes for this shit ?
Poor white people who are convinced that other poor minorities are the reason that they are poor.
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Frankly seems like the coolest. Fucked up this will likely drain his savings for years when he could be setting himself up for a nice life.
And many Americans are so fucking brainwashed by corporate interests that they believe any system without medical bankruptcy is tantamount to socialism, and so have actually become convinced that this kind of ungodly misery is a price of “freedom” and mock other countries who show humanity towards their own people.
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Very sad
Why don't you guys just bail ? I could never relax knowing a medical issue could bankrupt me. Especially skateboarding! Lol
So inhumane.
Your sick, we don't care.. and.... No your broke. Who votes for this shit ?
Poor white people who are convinced that other poor minorities are the reason that they are poor.
Most of Long Island and middle America. It’s not just poor white people is wealthy white people that don’t wanna pay more in taxes because they rather have another corvette than help their neighbor.
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Wishing Mr. Villani a speedy recovery. Glad it was not fatal.
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God that second to last paragraph made me furious, I fucking hate this country. Best wishes to Franky’s dad and his whole family
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My dad ironically just got admitted in the hospital yesterday. Not looking good and it’s been a rough 24 hours.
I donated cause I understand. It’s cliche to say this now but cherish the time you have with you family now. It fucking sucks when it’s too late.
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My dad ironically just got admitted in the hospital yesterday. Not looking good and it’s been a rough 24 hours.
I donated cause I understand. It’s cliche to say this now but cherish the time you have with you family now. It fucking sucks when it’s too late.
Sorry to hear that man. Wishing the best for your dad, you and your family.
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My dad ironically just got admitted in the hospital yesterday. Not looking good and it’s been a rough 24 hours.
I donated cause I understand. It’s cliche to say this now but cherish the time you have with you family now. It fucking sucks when it’s too late.
Sorry to hear that man. Wishing the best for your dad, you and your family.
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My dad ironically just got admitted in the hospital yesterday. Not looking good and it’s been a rough 24 hours.
I donated cause I understand. It’s cliche to say this now but cherish the time you have with you family now. It fucking sucks when it’s too late.
Sorry to hear that man. Wishing the best for your dad, you and your family.
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Frankly seems like the coolest. Fucked up this will likely drain his savings for years when he could be setting himself up for a nice life.
And many Americans are so fucking brainwashed by corporate interests that they believe any system without medical bankruptcy is tantamount to socialism, and so have actually become convinced that this kind of ungodly misery is a price of “freedom” and mock other countries who show humanity towards their own people.
I try to stay positive about this shit most of the time, but when you look at how many people voted red last cycle, it's awful.
Biden - 81,283,098 votes, or 51.3 percent of the votes cast; Trump - 74,222,958 votes, or 46.8 percent of the votes cast.
What has been the Democrats stance on health care historically in this country? Probably not good either tbh... Hopefully we can get more progressives in the white house next cycle.
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I'd be interested in knowing what care got him up to Er admittance speed
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You Americans have given some great things to humanity, but medical bankruptcy is not one them.
So sad. I'm surprised you don't here of more Americans emigrating elsewhere. It's rolling the dice every day. Stuff like this can happen to anyone.
as a non american, please help me to understand. how much does it cost to get yourself an (medical?)insurance?
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You Americans have given some great things to humanity, but medical bankruptcy is not one them.
So sad. I'm surprised you don't here of more Americans emigrating elsewhere. It's rolling the dice every day. Stuff like this can happen to anyone.
For a healthy individual with no real pre-conditions - ~$250/month. It's not so much the per month that bites, as much as the fact that I still have to drop $5K on a procedure before my fees go to $0.
Rather than nationalizing the health-care system, I think it would be wiser for individual states to handle their own residents and create state-wide programs.
I can't find a single reason why funneling the money up to the feds and then back down to the states is beneficial (which is what would most likely happen in the case of nationalization). One could argue that poorer states would benefit from a pooled resource. All of my counter arguments sound callous, but I don't agree that the self-sufficient states should maintain dated social policy just because Oklahoma sucks.
That said, big ups to Frankie and his pops, and to the others in this thread who are going through the dips of life.
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You Americans have given some great things to humanity, but medical bankruptcy is not one them.
And the coolest thing about it is that the senator from Delaware, home of the insurance and banking industry, and the man who made it infinitely harder to discharge the debt in bankruptcy, is now the president 😘😘😍😎🤪🧐😛
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Every time you vote R you are voting yes on the sick and vulnerable to be ignored.
There is nearly equivalent disinterest in a national healthcare system from the Democrats. Biden himself said he would veto Medicare for All if it came across his desk, not that it will, because the leaders of the House refuse to let it come to a vote
The Democrats currently hold a majority, so we need to find new excuses instead of “you voted for a Republican, it’s your fault”
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On some you just pay the deductible
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Very sad
Why don't you guys just bail ? I could never relax knowing a medical issue could bankrupt me. Especially skateboarding! Lol
So inhumane.
Your sick, we don't care.. and.... No your broke. Who votes for this shit ?
Poor white people who are convinced that other poor minorities are the reason that they are poor.
I would be willing to consider this analysis if you could point me in the direction of the democratic presidential candidate who wanted to nationalize the healthcare system or expand Medicare to include everyone in America. Caveat - small tweaks to the disastrous Obamacare system don’t count
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You Americans have given some great things to humanity, but medical bankruptcy is not one them.
So sad. I'm surprised you don't here of more Americans emigrating elsewhere. It's rolling the dice every day. Stuff like this can happen to anyone.
There’s no straight answer to this. The average cost of a plan in the “exchanges” (a complicated nightmare created by Obamacare) for a plan is $462/month, but it can be dramatically higher or lower depending on the state you live in, your age, sex, race and overall health, among myriad other factors. This would be considered a basic plan, which doesn’t actually provide anything for you other than the ability to visit a doctor twice a year, some discounts on prescription medication, and partial coverage in the event of a tremendous medical disaster
Most of these plans are basically useless, and were only able to exist because Obamacare made it illegal not to buy one, if you were uninsured. The far right wing Supreme Court of America has ruled that the mandate to purchase these is illegal, and that ended in 2019, but the “exchanges” are still hobbling along with massive handouts from Congress to the insurance industry to keep them afloat
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If your denied on Medicaid it's significantly cheaper
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franky's posts about this whole thing put him in an even higher realm for me
he's a real one
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This is a bummer. Thinking about our golden boy. Also donated what I could.
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Franky is a great skater and person. I knew I had to don8.
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You Americans have given some great things to humanity, but medical bankruptcy is not one them.
So sad. I'm surprised you don't here of more Americans emigrating elsewhere. It's rolling the dice every day. Stuff like this can happen to anyone.
Have you looked up how much it costs to renounce citizenship? Trust me. That shit would be happening as lot more often if regular people had that kind of bread laying around. Don't be an idiot.
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Very sad
Why don't you guys just bail ? I could never relax knowing a medical issue could bankrupt me. Especially skateboarding! Lol
So inhumane.
Your sick, we don't care.. and.... No your broke. Who votes for this shit ?
Poor white people who are convinced that other poor minorities are the reason that they are poor.
I would be willing to consider this analysis if you could point me in the direction of the democratic presidential candidate who wanted to nationalize the healthcare system or expand Medicare to include everyone in America. Caveat - small tweaks to the disastrous Obamacare system don’t count
I'm not from the US but wouldn't have Bernie Sanders be the democratic presidential candidate that fit the bill?
Also calling Obamacare disastrous is interesting, I guess that means it is way worse than what preceded it, or is it just a case of letting good be the enemy of great?
Anyway, from a country with socialised medicine (Australia) we just look at cases like this and think it would be comical if it wasn't so sad.
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Very sad
Why don't you guys just bail ? I could never relax knowing a medical issue could bankrupt me. Especially skateboarding! Lol
So inhumane.
Your sick, we don't care.. and.... No your broke. Who votes for this shit ?
Poor white people who are convinced that other poor minorities are the reason that they are poor.
I would be willing to consider this analysis if you could point me in the direction of the democratic presidential candidate who wanted to nationalize the healthcare system or expand Medicare to include everyone in America. Caveat - small tweaks to the disastrous Obamacare system don’t count
I'm not from the US but wouldn't have Bernie Sanders be the democratic presidential candidate that fit the bill?
Also calling Obamacare disastrous is interesting, I guess that means it is way worse than what preceded it, or is it just a case of letting good be the enemy of great?
Anyway, from a country with socialised medicine (Australia) we just look at cases like this and think it would be comical if it wasn't so sad.
Bernie hit a lot of the right notes in his 2016 campaign by framing these issues around social class, and how they impact you financially and make a difference in your day to day life. A lot of people noticed. But unfortunately, the 1%/Big Business/Elites, most major news outlets, whatever you want to call them, which are aligned with the Democratic party, know that the best way to stamp out enthusiasm for left wing economic populism is to center these issues around identity. It keeps things divisive on purpose. A lot of progressives don't realize that some of the rhetoric they use severely hurts the part of their agenda that would have mass appeal and improve things. I'll let people figure out what that rhetoric is, because I'm the messenger and I don't like getting shot.
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I feel for him , my uncle just had 2 heart attacks back to back and is around the same age as his dad probably. This country sucks so bad dude medical debt is such a convoluted idea.
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I donated, Frankie seems like a great dude and his dad seems like a great man.
As for the other discussion, I don’t think it’s very easy for most Americans to move to another country even if they wanted to and had a bit of money saved. I’m not sure to be honest, though. I recently had my mom look into getting Polish citizenship so that I could by proxy, but I think she was a generation too far out or something? Either way, that was kind of my best hope.
I’ve been considering moving to Mexico or “Latin America” but, at the same time I don’t want to be so far from my family.
Not to derail this thread. Definitely donate if you can. Our US healthcare system is a cruel joke for the majority of people, and there is no way around it.
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Being a person who was "punished" by the American medical system & incurred more debt than what this GoFundMe is trying to raise, these situations infuriate me beyond belief. The American medical system is so broken & an absolute scam, the insurance industry dictates your future & does everything they can to deny your claims.
Godspeed to the Villani family, but hopefully California is a state where they can't do too much to you regarding your credit or garnishing wages or anything like that if you have medical debt.
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The best part is the lawmakers who ensure we don't have government run healthcare, all have government run healthcare. And they doubled their budget in the first COVID relief bill.
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I’ve been considering moving to Mexico or “Latin America” but, at the same time I don’t want to be so far from my family.
Not trying to tie things back to my own personal issues but just want to say as you get older, being near family is a crucial thing. My dad felt ill 2 weeks back and today we found out he has stage 4 cancer which is most likely terminal. My whole family is knuckling down to help him now and we need every single person for this job. It’s these times where having everyone around is a big help.
Frankie’s dad’s gofundme is still well under the amount they want and I feel like that bill has to be bigger. I had a cycling accident last year and the bill was over $300k but I had coverage which paid most. I hope they get at least close to the $250k mark.
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Very sad
Why don't you guys just bail ? I could never relax knowing a medical issue could bankrupt me. Especially skateboarding! Lol
So inhumane.
Your sick, we don't care.. and.... No your broke. Who votes for this shit ?
Poor white people who are convinced that other poor minorities are the reason that they are poor.
I would be willing to consider this analysis if you could point me in the direction of the democratic presidential candidate who wanted to nationalize the healthcare system or expand Medicare to include everyone in America. Caveat - small tweaks to the disastrous Obamacare system don’t count
I'm not from the US but wouldn't have Bernie Sanders be the democratic presidential candidate that fit the bill?
Also calling Obamacare disastrous is interesting, I guess that means it is way worse than what preceded it, or is it just a case of letting good be the enemy of great?
Anyway, from a country with socialised medicine (Australia) we just look at cases like this and think it would be comical if it wasn't so sad.
Bernie hit a lot of the right notes in his 2016 campaign by framing these issues around social class, and how they impact you financially and make a difference in your day to day life. A lot of people noticed. But unfortunately, the 1%/Big Business/Elites, most major news outlets, whatever you want to call them, which are aligned with the Democratic party, know that the best way to stamp out enthusiasm for left wing economic populism is to center these issues around identity. It keeps things divisive on purpose. A lot of progressives don't realize that some of the rhetoric they use severely hurts the part of their agenda that would have mass appeal and improve things. I'll let people figure out what that rhetoric is, because I'm the messenger and I don't like getting shot.
"I know the answer but I'm not gonna tell you because reasons". You must've been the dude on middle school that said he had a really hot gf but she went to another school. Just don't even you're anything if you're not gonna actually contribute real answers.
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Very sad
Why don't you guys just bail ? I could never relax knowing a medical issue could bankrupt me. Especially skateboarding! Lol
So inhumane.
Your sick, we don't care.. and.... No your broke. Who votes for this shit ?
Poor white people who are convinced that other poor minorities are the reason that they are poor.
I would be willing to consider this analysis if you could point me in the direction of the democratic presidential candidate who wanted to nationalize the healthcare system or expand Medicare to include everyone in America. Caveat - small tweaks to the disastrous Obamacare system don’t count
I'm not from the US but wouldn't have Bernie Sanders be the democratic presidential candidate that fit the bill?
Also calling Obamacare disastrous is interesting, I guess that means it is way worse than what preceded it, or is it just a case of letting good be the enemy of great?
Anyway, from a country with socialised medicine (Australia) we just look at cases like this and think it would be comical if it wasn't so sad.
Bernie hit a lot of the right notes in his 2016 campaign by framing these issues around social class, and how they impact you financially and make a difference in your day to day life. A lot of people noticed. But unfortunately, the 1%/Big Business/Elites, most major news outlets, whatever you want to call them, which are aligned with the Democratic party, know that the best way to stamp out enthusiasm for left wing economic populism is to center these issues around identity. It keeps things divisive on purpose. A lot of progressives don't realize that some of the rhetoric they use severely hurts the part of their agenda that would have mass appeal and improve things. I'll let people figure out what that rhetoric is, because I'm the messenger and I don't like getting shot.
"I know the answer but I'm not gonna tell you because reasons". You must've been the dude on middle school that said he had a really hot gf but she went to another school. Just don't even you're anything if you're not gonna actually contribute real answers.
It is not hard to guess. I am pretty shure the rhetoric he meant was everything to do with political correctness and identity politics of the liberal left. Concepts like: „cultural appropriation“, „cultural representation to solve inequality“ „racial sensitivity to combat racism“ „lgbtq+“ „trigger warnings“ „save spaces“ „sensitive and inclusive language“ etc.
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Very sad
Why don't you guys just bail ? I could never relax knowing a medical issue could bankrupt me. Especially skateboarding! Lol
So inhumane.
Your sick, we don't care.. and.... No your broke. Who votes for this shit ?
Poor white people who are convinced that other poor minorities are the reason that they are poor.
I would be willing to consider this analysis if you could point me in the direction of the democratic presidential candidate who wanted to nationalize the healthcare system or expand Medicare to include everyone in America. Caveat - small tweaks to the disastrous Obamacare system don’t count
I'm not from the US but wouldn't have Bernie Sanders be the democratic presidential candidate that fit the bill?
Also calling Obamacare disastrous is interesting, I guess that means it is way worse than what preceded it, or is it just a case of letting good be the enemy of great?
Anyway, from a country with socialised medicine (Australia) we just look at cases like this and think it would be comical if it wasn't so sad.
Bernie hit a lot of the right notes in his 2016 campaign by framing these issues around social class, and how they impact you financially and make a difference in your day to day life. A lot of people noticed. But unfortunately, the 1%/Big Business/Elites, most major news outlets, whatever you want to call them, which are aligned with the Democratic party, know that the best way to stamp out enthusiasm for left wing economic populism is to center these issues around identity. It keeps things divisive on purpose. A lot of progressives don't realize that some of the rhetoric they use severely hurts the part of their agenda that would have mass appeal and improve things. I'll let people figure out what that rhetoric is, because I'm the messenger and I don't like getting shot.
"I know the answer but I'm not gonna tell you because reasons". You must've been the dude on middle school that said he had a really hot gf but she went to another school. Just don't even you're anything if you're not gonna actually contribute real answers.
Bingo. People love to scoff at the idea of these things being a problem, but that's because they are in a specific media bubble just like the Trumptards were. If you want a better healthcare system, you need to make it appealing to everyone and messaging is extremely important. It's called politics. You have to sell it to the Trumptards too, show them the light instead of trying to get revenge.
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Some good news
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/140721774932393984/821778478633582643/image0.jpg)
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Garage Skate shop is raising money through sale of these shirts.
https://garageskateshop.com/collections/new-arrivals/products/villani-is-king-s-s-t-shirt?variant=39492864409760
"100% of the proceeds from shirt purchases will be donated to Marco's Health Fund for surgery and outpatient care or if you would like to donate directly to the family you can do it here https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-papa-villani?utm_campaign=m_pd+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer "
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this thread is going to go well
IKR
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As an ICU nurse myself, I can tell you the bed alone is around $10000 a day. Add meds, scans, procedures and you’re done financially if you don’t have insurance. It’s pretty ridiculous. A 1 liter bag of normal saline (salt water) costs about .50 but the patient is charged $50 or more for it.
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As an ICU nurse myself, I can tell you the bed alone is around $10000 a day. Add meds, scans, procedures and you’re done financially if you don’t have insurance. It’s pretty ridiculous. A 1 liter bag of normal saline (salt water) costs about .50 but the patient is charged $50 or more for it.
What.... the.... Fuck
10k a day? For a bed
Honestly I've been on trips to the US skating before and would love to go again but this is kinda freaky.
I completely bodied at Soma and was convinced I broke / sprained my wrist for a torturous pain filled minute. Was thinking it was a hospital trip. Thank God I didn't need to.
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As an ICU nurse myself, I can tell you the bed alone is around $10000 a day. Add meds, scans, procedures and you’re done financially if you don’t have insurance. It’s pretty ridiculous. A 1 liter bag of normal saline (salt water) costs about .50 but the patient is charged $50 or more for it.
What.... the.... Fuck
10k a day? For a bed
Honestly I've been on trips to the US skating before and would love to go again but this is kinda freaky.
I completely bodied at Soma and was convinced I broke / sprained my wrist for a torturous pain filled minute. Was thinking it was a hospital trip. Thank God I didn't need to.
i would highly recommend travel insurance.
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Last update seemed really promising. His dad is out of icu and is acting like his normal self. That’s awesome.
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As an ICU nurse myself, I can tell you the bed alone is around $10000 a day. Add meds, scans, procedures and you’re done financially if you don’t have insurance. It’s pretty ridiculous. A 1 liter bag of normal saline (salt water) costs about .50 but the patient is charged $50 or more for it.
What.... the.... Fuck
10k a day? For a bed
Honestly I've been on trips to the US skating before and would love to go again but this is kinda freaky.
I completely bodied at Soma and was convinced I broke / sprained my wrist for a torturous pain filled minute. Was thinking it was a hospital trip. Thank God I didn't need to.
Yeah, I'm Canadian and get that yearly. Although, I wouldn't be shocked if there is some loophole in the wording if you get broke off skating.
Glad to hear positive news on Franky's dad.
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I’ve been considering moving to Mexico or “Latin America” but, at the same time I don’t want to be so far from my family.
Not trying to tie things back to my own personal issues but just want to say as you get older, being near family is a crucial thing. My dad felt ill 2 weeks back and today we found out he has stage 4 cancer which is most likely terminal. My whole family is knuckling down to help him now and we need every single person for this job. It’s these times where having everyone around is a big help.
Frankie’s dad’s gofundme is still well under the amount they want and I feel like that bill has to be bigger. I had a cycling accident last year and the bill was over $300k but I had coverage which paid most. I hope they get at least close to the $250k mark.
I’m sorry to hear about your father, that news must be devastating for everyone. Sending positive thoughts. How far do you live from your family?
I got hit by a car 2 years ago, I don’t know what would happen if the guy didn’t stop. Luckily his insurance paid my bills. The cops still wrote me a $40 ticket even though I was the one who was hit (the claim was I didn’t have lights, they flew off in the crash).
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I’ve been considering moving to Mexico or “Latin America” but, at the same time I don’t want to be so far from my family.
Not trying to tie things back to my own personal issues but just want to say as you get older, being near family is a crucial thing. My dad felt ill 2 weeks back and today we found out he has stage 4 cancer which is most likely terminal. My whole family is knuckling down to help him now and we need every single person for this job. It’s these times where having everyone around is a big help.
Frankie’s dad’s gofundme is still well under the amount they want and I feel like that bill has to be bigger. I had a cycling accident last year and the bill was over $300k but I had coverage which paid most. I hope they get at least close to the $250k mark.
I’m sorry to hear about your father, that news must be devastating for everyone. Sending positive thoughts. How far do you live from your family?
I got hit by a car 2 years ago, I don’t know what would happen if the guy didn’t stop. Luckily his insurance paid my bills. The cops still wrote me a $40 ticket even though I was the one who was hit (the claim was I didn’t have lights, they flew off in the crash).
Thanks man. My pops lives close but my wife and I have been contemplating moving out of the Bay Area cause the cost of living is crazy. The thing that has held us back was family. Our folks are at that sensitive age of 70 so anything can happen like what is going on now. I guess we're glad we never left.
Speaking of medical insurance. I got a call from doctors the other day asking if we would agree to paying the ambulance bill to transfer my dad to another hospital since his coverage doesn't pay for it. We're talking about a drive no more than 20 mins and they quoted us a price of $3-7K. Of course we said that is fine but man, these bills can be crazy if you never had coverage.
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just saw on frank’s story that his dad is back home
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just saw on frank’s story that his dad is back home
Great news! Happy to see Papa Villani with a big smile.
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You Americans have given some great things to humanity, but medical bankruptcy is not one them.
So sad. I'm surprised you don't here of more Americans emigrating elsewhere. It's rolling the dice every day. Stuff like this can happen to anyone.
I had a Beverly Hills doctor lecture me on how bad the Australian system of socialised medicine is as everyone pays for it through taxes and when I said ‘what about people who can’t afford the care’ he basically said ‘don’t be poor’. American medicine in a nutshell.
I love that my taxes help keep our citizens healthy. How couldn’t you?
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As an ICU nurse myself, I can tell you the bed alone is around $10000 a day. Add meds, scans, procedures and you’re done financially if you don’t have insurance. It’s pretty ridiculous. A 1 liter bag of normal saline (salt water) costs about .50 but the patient is charged $50 or more for it.
Sounds about right. I work at a medical warehouse and those bags of saline get shipped by the pallet load everyday and it’s not even the slightest deal when they get damaged.
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I always wonder why people don't just get health insurance in the US though - assuming you could afford to pay one of the premiums. It's not like health insurance is free, so to speak, in countries that have "free" health care. You could be paying as much as any full coverage plan in the US, it's just coming out in taxes and you don't have a choice to not have the full coverage plan basically. And that does come with different issues - like long wait times and doctors not giving a shit.
But, yeah, sort of a fucked medical system. I guess it's the freedom to... not have health insurance? But even so I don't know why the norm would basically be to just not have it. Because people don't want to willingly pay $500 per month for health insurance?
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As a fellow American, I loathe medical bills/medical debt. I lost my job recently but start a new one in week. If I wasn't literally broke I'd donate a 20 dollar bill!
P.S. Shout out to Lex FUCKING records for thew $2500 donation!!!!!
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I always wonder why people don't just get health insurance in the US though - assuming you could afford to pay one of the premiums. It's not like health insurance is free, so to speak, in countries that have "free" health care. You could be paying as much as any full coverage plan in the US, it's just coming out in taxes and you don't have a choice to not have the full coverage plan basically. And that does come with different issues - like long wait times and doctors not giving a shit.
But, yeah, sort of a fucked medical system. I guess it's the freedom to... not have health insurance? But even so I don't know why the norm would basically be to just not have it. Because people don't want to willingly pay $500 per month for health insurance?
The Average American is taxed at the same rate as anywhere else with medical. Our taxes are high and we don’t get shit for it. It’s not like people don’t want health insurance, it’s that $500 is a lot of money per month and a lot of people just can’t afford it.
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As an ICU nurse myself, I can tell you the bed alone is around $10000 a day. Add meds, scans, procedures and you’re done financially if you don’t have insurance. It’s pretty ridiculous. A 1 liter bag of normal saline (salt water) costs about .50 but the patient is charged $50 or more for it.
1 month of denied coverage set me back $300,000 & my actual medical procedures were around $15,000. I was in ICU/coma after a heart issue put me in cardiac arrest. But yeah, $25 aspirins & tons of nickle & diming. I will never pay a cent of this out of principal, I'm pretty sure they have given up on trying to collect.
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I always wonder why people don't just get health insurance in the US though - assuming you could afford to pay one of the premiums. It's not like health insurance is free, so to speak, in countries that have "free" health care. You could be paying as much as any full coverage plan in the US, it's just coming out in taxes and you don't have a choice to not have the full coverage plan basically. And that does come with different issues - like long wait times and doctors not giving a shit.
But, yeah, sort of a fucked medical system. I guess it's the freedom to... not have health insurance? But even so I don't know why the norm would basically be to just not have it. Because people don't want to willingly pay $500 per month for health insurance?
Definitely not true - if you make over 28k Germany you get taxed at 24%, over 50k at 42%. Portugal is about the same but salaries are much lower. So you're getting taxed that % and no matter what you make, the health insurance is automatically deducted. I think it's still expensive, you just don't have a choice to not have/pay for it. In NYC you don't hit the max of 8% until you make over 1 million. States like Texas don't even have an income tax.
California actually has a "decent" system set up for low income individuals/households. There's a bunch of free clinics, doctors who have pro-bono days, and if you go to a county hospital then they'll base your bill of your wage - so it can be free if you're unemployed. I had that happen to me when I was in between jobs living in LA and needed to go to the emergency room.
Anyway, I'm not trying to de-rail the topic and in no way am I saying the overall healthcare system in the US is good. It leaves way to much room - probably the majority of room - for you to get fucked by needing medical care.
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I always wonder why people don't just get health insurance in the US though - assuming you could afford to pay one of the premiums. It's not like health insurance is free, so to speak, in countries that have "free" health care. You could be paying as much as any full coverage plan in the US, it's just coming out in taxes and you don't have a choice to not have the full coverage plan basically. And that does come with different issues - like long wait times and doctors not giving a shit.
But, yeah, sort of a fucked medical system. I guess it's the freedom to... not have health insurance? But even so I don't know why the norm would basically be to just not have it. Because people don't want to willingly pay $500 per month for health insurance?
Definitely not true - if you make over 28k Germany you get taxed at 24%, over 50k at 42%. Portugal is about the same but salaries are much lower. So you're getting taxed that % and no matter what you make, the health insurance is automatically deducted. I think it's still expensive, you just don't have a choice to not have/pay for it. In NYC you don't hit the max of 8% until you make over 1 million. States like Texas don't even have an income tax.
California actually has a "decent" system set up for low income individuals/households. There's a bunch of free clinics, doctors who have pro-bono days, and if you go to a county hospital then they'll base your bill of your wage - so it can be free if you're unemployed. I had that happen to me when I was in between jobs living in LA and needed to go to the emergency room.
Anyway, I'm not trying to de-rail the topic and in no way am I saying the overall healthcare system in the US is good. It leaves way to much room - probably the majority of room - for you to get fucked by needing medical care.
You’re obviously foreign and don’t know shit about the American tax system. It’s fine, I’m American and I still know essentially nothing about it. You’re going off of state income tax. We’re taxed on a federal level, massively. Add in all state and local taxes, I’m paying roughly 40% of my income and I still have to pay for health insurance.
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Wait, medical insurance in the US is $500 per month?
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Wait, medical insurance in the US is $500 per month?
mine is 280/m
but it goes up the older you get and your health condition factors into the cost.
also a lot of salary employees have it as part of their pay package so they never really consider the actual monthly cost
FUCK ME
jesus thats scandalous
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Wait, medical insurance in the US is $500 per month?
It depends. There's a lot of things to consider, age, different plans, coverage, etc. I am lucky I live near the Mexico border and am able to access Mexican plan through my employer in the USA. I am able to have my wife and I am pay way less than I would in the USA. Fantastic facility with amazing doctors. My co pay for doctor visits is $10 as well as medications. In case there's people wondering if it is sketchy, not at all. They're held to the same standards as any insurance coverage network in USA, if that means anything. These plans are more easily accessible with bordering counties/areas to Mexico.